From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 21 21:30:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8M2UWtS023357 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 21:30:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C28F71E60100; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 21:30:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9601B1E600F7 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 21:30:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009CD679@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Sep 2003 22:26:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11905982 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:26:28 -0400 Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8M2QSg30994 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:26:28 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.bd.36ef6320 (16484) for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:26:12 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:26:12 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] no way To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/21/2003 9:11:37 PM Central Daylight Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << Let's hope they all do as well as Daisy did. >> I hope so, too! Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com I'm fuzzy on the whole good-bad thing. Peter Venkman From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 21 21:31:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8M2VUtS023364 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 21:31:30 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B4FD91E60100; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 21:31:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AFC51E600F7 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 21:31:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009CD66E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Sep 2003 22:27:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11906047 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:27:26 -0400 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8M2RQg31136 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:27:26 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.20.191948fb (16484) for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:27:15 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <20.191948fb.2c9fb802@aol.com> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:27:14 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] no way To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It just struck me: it's been 3 months since the robbery. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com I'm fuzzy on the whole good-bad thing. Peter Venkman From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 21 21:33:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8M2XutS023414 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 21:33:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AAA521E60100; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 21:33:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C14E1E600F7 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 21:33:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009CD6A1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Sep 2003 22:29:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11906339 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:29:52 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8M2Tqg31458 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:29:52 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.191]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030922022947.FCYU1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:29:47 -0400 Message-ID: <3F6E5E9A.47378338@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 21:29:46 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: no way References: <20030922010744.70469.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> <3F6E56A4.45E84C52@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >Why is there so much moving in and out there? Or I assume there must be > >quite a bit for people to make a big thing about it. > > !!! Who told you that? They lied. There is very litte - which is the way > we like it. Ain't no big thing - we just don't interfere with weekends. > Most of us are working stiffs, and we like our weekends. It seems strange to me that the would instigate a for something that wasn't likely to be a problem often. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 21 21:35:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8M2ZHtS023421 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 21:35:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4287B1E60101; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 21:35:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 182F11E60100 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 21:35:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009CD69F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Sep 2003 22:31:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11906461 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:31:13 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8M2VCg31659 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:31:12 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.191]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030922023107.FDPL1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:31:07 -0400 Message-ID: <3F6E5EEB.85480268@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 21:31:07 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: no way References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030921155413.034fa008@mail.istori.com> <3F6E3935.837DEC24@maynor.net> <3F6E4A62.4C48AC33@maynor.net> <3F6E5235.8B71FE93@maynor.net> <3F6E57B0.9FD5833C@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Or else people just don't covet your stufff. Most of what us taken is Ah. That may be it. I don't need alarm systems because my stuff isn't desirable. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 21 21:37:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8M2bftS023433 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 21:37:41 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 71FB51E60100; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 21:37:32 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 407F71E600F7 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 21:37:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009CD697@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Sep 2003 22:33:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11905838 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:33:37 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8M2Nbg30798 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:23:37 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8M2Na5a008504 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:23:36 -0400 Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:23:36 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: no way In-Reply-To: <1dd.112bc1bf.2c9fb4ad@aol.com> Message-ID: References: <1dd.112bc1bf.2c9fb4ad@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 21 Sep 2003, Theo Groothof wrote: >--I've never owned a house that didn't have a garage. Even though I don't >drive anymore this one does too. Guess I've always had so much junk that I need >one :-( non seq of the day? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 21 21:40:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8M2ebtS023462 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 21:40:37 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 18FE21E60100; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 21:40:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF3931E600F7 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 21:40:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009CD6AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Sep 2003 22:36:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11906620 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:36:31 -0400 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8M2aVg32027 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:36:31 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.17d.208e1e51 (3866) for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:36:14 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <17d.208e1e51.2c9fba1d@aol.com> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:36:13 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] no way To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/21/2003 9:31:18 PM Central Daylight Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << Ah. That may be it. I don't need alarm systems because my stuff isn't desirable. >> You have a purse? Sometimes that's all a thief wants. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com I'm fuzzy on the whole good-bad thing. Peter Venkman From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 21 21:56:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8M2u3tS023576 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 21:56:03 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 89A631E60106; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 21:55:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A4681E600F7 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 21:55:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009CD6FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Sep 2003 22:51:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11906819 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:51:59 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8M2fxg32648 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:41:59 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8M2fw5a013113 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:41:59 -0400 Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:41:58 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: no way In-Reply-To: <3F6E5E9A.47378338@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <20030922010744.70469.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> <3F6E56A4.45E84C52@maynor.net> <3F6E5E9A.47378338@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 21 Sep 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >It seems strange to me that the would instigate a >for something that wasn't likely to be a problem often. Ain't no . We are us. We make the rules. Details matter. (I.e., HH is a true condo association. We own everything.) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 21 21:57:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8M2vTtS023594 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 21:57:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D85421E60106; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 21:57:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADC101E60103 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 21:57:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009CD708@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Sep 2003 22:53:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11906870 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:53:24 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8M2hOg00366 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:43:24 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8M2hO5a013389 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:43:24 -0400 Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:43:24 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: no way In-Reply-To: <17d.208e1e51.2c9fba1d@aol.com> Message-ID: References: <17d.208e1e51.2c9fba1d@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 21 Sep 2003, Evelyn Duncan wrote: >You have a purse? Sometimes that's all a thief wants. I do not know anyone who ever leaves a purse in a vehicle - that is an invitation today. I am thinking expensive speakers, stereo systems, etc. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 21 22:43:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8M3h1tS024031 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:43:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B927B1E60107; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:42:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89D681E60106 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:42:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009CD987@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Sep 2003 23:38:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11912945 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 23:38:56 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f32.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.32]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8M3cug07894 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 23:38:56 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 20:38:51 -0700 Received: from 64.24.186.18 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 03:38:47 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.24.186.18] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Vanilla folder Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 03:38:47 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Sep 2003 03:38:51.0218 (UTC) FILETIME=[0A0A1B20:01C380BB] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam: > > Wow! Cool. Is she happy about it? Hope so. >Yes, she is. She and Peter have wanted another child for a long time now. Oh, that's so great! Tell her mazel tov from me. _________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 21 22:46:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8M3kPtS024073 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:46:25 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 78FDD1E60106; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:46:15 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B4041E60100 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:46:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009CD9AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Sep 2003 23:42:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11913135 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 23:42:20 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f49.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8M3gJg08275 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 23:42:20 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 20:31:00 -0700 Received: from 64.24.186.18 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 03:30:59 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.24.186.18] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Not Sounding Good (re WC) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 03:30:59 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Sep 2003 03:31:00.0190 (UTC) FILETIME=[F148EFE0:01C380B9] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > Isn't National Review an opinion journal? So this isn't exactly unbiased, right? I hate having to question the source of every report these days but I trust no one. In any case I know nothing about Clark. I was answering Doris' question about Kosovo. _________________________________________________________________ Instant message in style with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 21 22:47:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8M3lhtS024082 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:47:43 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D8A751E60106; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:47:33 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE8161E60100 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:47:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001719F8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Sep 2003 23:43:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11913168 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 23:43:32 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f17.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.17]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8M3hVg08409 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 23:43:31 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 20:43:25 -0700 Received: from 64.24.186.18 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 03:43:18 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.24.186.18] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Not Sounding Good (re WC) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 03:43:18 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Sep 2003 03:43:25.0594 (UTC) FILETIME=[AD948FA0:01C380BB] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > Isn't National Review an opinion journal? So this isn't exactly unbiased, right? I hate that I feel the need to question every source but I trust no one ... I know nothing about Clark and his role in the war. I was answering Doris' question about Kosovo. _________________________________________________________________ Help protect your PC. Get a FREE computer virus scan online from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 21 23:43:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8M4hxtS024671 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 23:43:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 407D41E6010B; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 23:43:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1692F1E600A7 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 23:43:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009CDBB8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 0:39:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11917436 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 00:39:54 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8M4drg14860 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 00:39:53 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.23) id 1A1IUe-0008Cq-9l for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 00:40:12 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030921213025.037fb848@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 21:42:18 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Not Sounding Good (re WC) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy writes, >Isn't National Review an opinion journal? So this isn't exactly >unbiased, right? I hate having to question the source of every >report these days but I trust no one. I don't really know the publication's background. I presumed it was biased, but at least based on fact. I didn't do an extensive review, though. However, here's an article from the _Journal of the Air Force Association_, September 2001, which tells the story from the viewpoint of the Air Force. I can stipulate some potential internecine rivalry between Army and Air Force, but it too describes a lone wolf who completely misreads the politics and ground realities of the evolving situation. >Clark's memoir detailed his many troubles with other military and >political leaders -- but he employed the tell-all tactic largely at his >own expense. In vignette after vignette, his tormentors came off as being >more reasonable than he. >The book is littered with examples of Clark's evident inability to take a >hint, even a heavy-handed hint, or to deal effectively with surprises or >uncomfortable situations. The most cringe-worthy story of all concerns the >moment when Clark turned up a few minutes early for a reception at the >NATO summit. As Clark told it, President Clinton, Albright, Cohen, and >Shelton were alone in the room forming their receiving line. Clark started >to walk over to greet them, then read their body language and stopped, >alone in the middle of the room, 20 feet away. In telling the story, Clark >seemed to want to show how he was unfairly shut out. Instead, the story >tends to paint Clark himself as an inept player of the power game. ... still Not Sounding Good. >In any case I know nothing about Clark. I was answering Doris' >question about Kosovo. Yes, thanks, I meant no personal slight. Nor do I harbor ill feelings towards General Clark -- like Natalie, I'm all for whoever has the greatest likelihood of succeeding Bush. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 00:04:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8M54WtS024862 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 00:04:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B60851E6010F; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 00:04:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 889981E60031 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 00:04:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009CDBD4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 1:00:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11917933 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 01:00:24 -0400 Received: from imo-m01.mx.aol.com (imo-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.4]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8M50Ng16415 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 01:00:23 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.b0.3e9ec4fe (657) for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 01:00:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 01:00:11 EDT Subject: Re: Vanilla folder To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/21/2003 9:38:58 PM, rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM writes: >>Yes, she is. She and Peter have wanted another child for a long time now. > >Oh, that's so great! Tell her mazel tov from me. > >From me too. When is he/she due? Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 00:42:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8M5gotS025557 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 00:42:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8AD1A1E60114; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 00:42:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CA0C1E60112 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 00:42:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009CDC7F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 1:38:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11919409 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 01:38:45 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8M5cig20226 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 01:38:44 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h8M5chRP020489 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 07:38:43 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h8M5cgVQ020487 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 07:38:42 +0200 Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 07:38:42 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Vanilla folder Message-ID: <20030922053842.GA20481@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200309211302.h8LD2tg19566@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20030921133617.GA18438@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20030921134055.GB18438@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3F6DBF0E.C4144105@maynor.net> <20030921200301.GA19092@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3F6E225A.D03591BD@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F6E225A.D03591BD@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor: = steph wrote: = = > Anyway, the six months turned into a year, but finally everything = > got arranged. The cat flew to Heathrow, and was handled by a = > special company that does these things. He is in England now, = > but the happy couple (or now a threesome, since they've got their = > cat) is about to buy a house in Wales and move. So I figure = > he'll go by car for that move. = = Where in England are they living, and why are they moving to Wales? = I don't know why you care, but they are in Bath now. She is Welsh, I do believe, and it was just where they wanted to be. Bath was only ever going to be temporary for them anyway. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 01:25:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8M6PAtS025954 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 01:25:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 42C8F1E60114; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 01:25:00 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15C101E60113 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 01:25:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009CDDCD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 2:21:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11922370 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 02:21:01 -0400 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:3xVNU3F17S8yubOj/bbpEs0w9SQU6dQt@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8M6L1g25273 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 02:21:01 -0400 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 957D330127 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 23:21:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A1A22382C for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 23:20:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001501c37fca$59e977e0$3dcadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: The sunrise is going down quickly X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Jon-Carroll: We live in a culture of lies Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 23:20:53 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Did You Know? Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 3:55 PM -0700 9/20/03, Doris Markland wrote: >Did you know? > > > Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at an Elingsh uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in >waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the >frist and lsat ltteer are in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl >mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae we do >not raed ervey lteter by it slef but the wrod as a wlohe and the biran >fguiers it out aynawy. Tihs dseont wrok vrey wlel ocne you strat dnilaeg in non-msoybialolnc wrods. In fact, once you start creating these sentences for yourself (and not just copying the ones you find on the internet) you'll find it doesn't work particularly well for ordinary sentences, either, when the scrambling is truly random. It olny wroks wehn the wiretr is craeufl in cohsenig his wodrs and equllay caerufl in mxinig the ltteres. Ken Miller Department of Man's Agar From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 02:06:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8M76OtS026310 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 02:06:24 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 732E11E60115; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 02:06:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4917E1E60022 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 02:06:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00171DE1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 3:02:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11923088 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 03:02:02 -0400 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:OAc0ahinWOKDkGWVv7S33Q+/oDNjIAB3@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8M722g27429 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 03:02:02 -0400 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 867E73059C for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 00:02:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EBBF2382E for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 00:02:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20030921041903.GF25449@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: The sunrise is going down quickly X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Jon-Carroll: We live in a culture of lies Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 00:01:51 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Deleting "MS Security Pack" mails Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 9:19 PM -0700 9/20/03, Tushar Samant wrote: >It's like pushing a rock up a hill! "Against stupidity, the gods themselves contend in vain." --Schiller Ken Miller Isaac Asimov School of Titular Studies From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 02:16:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8M7GOtS026423 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 02:16:24 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AD2491E60115; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 02:16:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FA391E60022 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 02:16:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009CDE35@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 3:12:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11923322 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 03:12:18 -0400 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:riIV1yfSj20rTjEfZbKiIujnsu6m+kiy@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8M7CIg27989 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 03:12:18 -0400 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29B07305A3 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 00:12:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B27262382C for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 00:12:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: The sunrise is going down quickly X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Jon-Carroll: We live in a culture of lies Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 00:12:12 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: frequent flyers: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 6:37 AM -0700 9/21/03, Amy Burns Short wrote: >If you're willing to fly out of San Jose and into Lauderdale, Southwest >often has better deals. Ay, there's the rub. Flying into San Jose is not for the easily bored. In fact, it's not for the normally-not-bored, either. Only those who bring their own excitement with them should even contemplate such a travel plan. Ken Miller Walter Mitty School of Comparative Civic Studies From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 05:41:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8MAfntS028262 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 05:41:49 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 453851E60122; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 05:41:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15EE51E60121 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 05:41:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0017218C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 6:37:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11931526 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 06:37:40 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8MAbeg10019 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 06:37:40 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.139.157]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030922103734.GJEB13391.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 06:37:34 -0400 Message-ID: <3F6ED0EE.A377191@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 05:37:34 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: no way References: <17d.208e1e51.2c9fba1d@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > << > Ah. That may be it. I don't need alarm systems because my stuff isn't > desirable. > >> > > You have a purse? Sometimes that's all a thief wants. But my purse is wherever I am. So I could be the alarm system -- by hollering or whatever. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 05:42:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8MAgxtS028267 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 05:42:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5BCD31E60122; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 05:42:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F0851E60121 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 05:42:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009CE22B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 6:38:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11931576 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 06:38:51 -0400 Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8MAcpg10132 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 06:38:51 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.11.19165648 (4592) for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 06:38:41 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <11.19165648.2ca02b31@aol.com> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 06:38:41 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Not Sounding Good (re WC) To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/21/2003 10:44:00 PM Central Daylight Time, rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM writes: << Isn't National Review an opinion journal? >> Started by William F. Buckley, jr.; it's a conservative magazine. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com I'm fuzzy on the whole good-bad thing. Peter Venkman From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 05:44:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8MAietS028273 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 05:44:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 49FBF1E60122; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 05:44:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 208F71E60123 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 05:44:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009CE243@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 6:40:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11931667 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 06:40:32 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8MAeWg10490 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 06:40:32 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.139.157]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030922104026.GJQW13391.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 06:40:26 -0400 Message-ID: <3F6ED19A.42FEBAC9@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 05:40:26 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: no way References: <20030922010744.70469.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> <3F6E56A4.45E84C52@maynor.net> <3F6E5E9A.47378338@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > On Sun, 21 Sep 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >It seems strange to me that the would instigate a > >for something that wasn't likely to be a problem often. > > Ain't no . We are us. We make the rules. Details matter. ? If there are no , there are no . Sounds to me as if the majority of voters = the controllers. > (I.e., HH is a true condo association. We own everything.) What would a non-true one be? Do some condos have outside owners of the parking lots, grounds, etc? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 05:47:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8MAlKtS028309 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 05:47:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BE4F71E60123; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 05:47:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94B2A1E60122 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 05:47:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009CE239@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 6:43:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11931707 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 06:43:12 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8MAhCg10677 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 06:43:12 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.139.157]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030922104306.GKME13391.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 06:43:06 -0400 Message-ID: <3F6ED23A.C61128CC@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 05:43:06 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Vanilla folder References: <200309211302.h8LD2tg19566@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20030921133617.GA18438@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20030921134055.GB18438@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3F6DBF0E.C4144105@maynor.net> <20030921200301.GA19092@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3F6E225A.D03591BD@maynor.net> <20030922053842.GA20481@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > = Where in England are they living, and why are they moving to Wales? > = > > I don't know why you care, Because it's interesting. I also wondered about it because of the wording that sort of suggested that they were just ambling around moving to wherever they were in the mood to live -- like they saw a house in Wales they liked and decided to buy it and move there. > but they are in Bath now. She is > Welsh, I do believe, and it was just where they wanted to be. > Bath was only ever going to be temporary for them anyway. Do they work? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 06:24:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8MBOPtS028571 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 06:24:26 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4DE1B1E60128; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 06:24:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 206B91E60126 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 06:24:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009CE296@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 7:20:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11932346 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 07:20:13 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8MBADg31271 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 07:10:13 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8MBAA5a012289 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 07:10:13 -0400 Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 07:10:10 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: no way In-Reply-To: <3F6ED19A.42FEBAC9@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <20030922010744.70469.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> <3F6E56A4.45E84C52@maynor.net> <3F6E5E9A.47378338@maynor.net> <3F6ED19A.42FEBAC9@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >? If there are no , there are no . Sounds to me as >if the majority of voters = the controllers. Natalie, your question suggested to me that you thought there were controllers as opposed to non-controllers. >> (I.e., HH is a true condo association. We own everything.) > >What would a non-true one be? Do some condos have outside owners of the >parking lots, grounds, etc? As far as I know. I have heard of so-called that are really just purchases of individual units. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 07:02:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8MC2AtS028930 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 07:02:10 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4D3AC1E6012C; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 07:01:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22F091E6012B for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 07:01:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009CE2EC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 7:57:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11933396 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 07:57:57 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law9-oe14.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.118]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8MBvvg03215 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 07:57:57 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 04:57:51 -0700 Received: from 199.174.0.79 by law9-oe14.law9.hotmail.com with DAV; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 11:57:51 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [199.174.0.79] X-Originating-Email: [amyb_short@hotmail.com] From: "Amy Burns Short" To: Subject: Re: frequent flyers: Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 06:57:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Sep 2003 11:57:51.0757 (UTC) FILETIME=[BFFDCBD0:01C38100] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Only those who bring their own excitement with them should even contemplate such a travel plan. >Ken Miller >Walter Mitty School of Comparative Civic Studies In that case, we would indeed be biased. :). AS/JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 08:05:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8MD5ItS029597 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 08:05:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CD4FB1E6012E; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 08:05:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A14DE1E6012C for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 08:05:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009CE461@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 9:01:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11936923 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 09:01:10 -0400 Received: from maple.vaxer.net (root@maple.vaxer.net [66.199.186.132]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8MD19g12154 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 09:01:09 -0400 Received: from maple.vaxer.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maple.vaxer.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h8MD0WTX013168 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 06:00:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (sylvar@localhost) by maple.vaxer.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id h8MD0WmA022701 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 06:00:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: maple.vaxer.net: sylvar owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 06:00:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: no way In-Reply-To: <200309220143.h8M1h5TX027100@maple.vaxer.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm looking forward to having paid off my car loan next month. My 1997 Taurus, 127k miles, will finally be mine. (And then I'll have an extra $281/mo, which should make my Visa creditor sad because they will stop getting $20/mo in interest fairly soon.) I've put a lot of miles on this because Jodi and I live half an hour's drive apart. Rather than driving up to pick her up and then driving her down to my place to cook dinner, then back up to her place and driving myself home again, like last year, I've been using her kitchen. Her roommate is a lot of fun (she's teaching us Buffy, I'm going to try to teach them Babylon 5), so we've been spending a lot of time as three. But back to the car: someone removed the antenna, dammit, and now I have to figure out how to replace it. (I assume this is a fairly simple job, since I should be able to get at its mounting point from the trunk.) In the meanwhile I've got Chess and Cats and Tomfoolery and the Dead Kennedys and some mix tapes to listen to. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 08:46:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8MDkWtS030012 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 08:46:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4379F1E60132; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 08:46:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18FFB1E60130 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 08:46:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009CE5CC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 9:42:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11940492 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 09:42:20 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8MDgKg19959 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 09:42:20 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-96.gwi.net [216.195.156.96]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h8MDgIYp045906 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 09:42:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030922093552.00b7d9b8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 09:42:26 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: no way In-Reply-To: References: <3F6E5235.8B71FE93@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20030921155413.034fa008@mail.istori.com> <3F6E3935.837DEC24@maynor.net> <3F6E4A62.4C48AC33@maynor.net> <3F6E5235.8B71FE93@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >It's not the car that usually gets stolen - it's the stereo system, >etc. And I had a car broken into immediately before I purchased my car >alarm. That prompted my purchase. --Bethany We had our car stereo system stolen two or three times when we lived in the Knoxville area. By the way, my two and a half hour conversation with two Canadians at the Inn on Saturday night was mostly a political conversation about how the three of us, and much of the world, is horrified by Bush. That led into a discussion of how America differs from Canada. This man was of the opinion that Americans aren't really free to speak their minds without fear of the CIA knocking on their door. I disagreed with that. I told him about the peace vigils on the Bar Harbor village green and the students that were invited to speak from the pulpit at the Catholic Church to argue against war with Iraq. What surprised him most was that when Maine voted down equal rights for gays, several of the towns in Maine immediately passed their own laws granting such rights. He had no idea a town could go against the state or the federal policy without repercussion. But the topic above reminded me of my discussion with the Canadians because one of the American things that they have always been amazed about is that we actually have gated communities. bonnie From owner-words-l*words-l**GTOAL*-COM@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 08:54:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8MDsMtS030052 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 08:54:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C863C1E60130; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 08:54:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A7811E6012F for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 08:54:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009CE644@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 9:50:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11941355 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 09:50:13 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8MDoDg21789 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 09:50:13 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-96.gwi.net [216.195.156.96]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h8MDoBYp047484 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 09:50:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030922094818.00b2ca80@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 09:50:16 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: no way In-Reply-To: <3F6ED0EE.A377191@maynor.net> References: <17d.208e1e51.2c9fba1d@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >But my purse is wherever I am. So I could be the alarm system -- by >hollering or whatever. -- Natalie In Oak Ridge, a friend left her purse in her car while we jogged. She stuck it under her seat but it showed. She usually put it in the trunk. Her car was broken into and the purse was stolen while we jogging. Her biggest fear was that the thief would see the pictures of her very lovely three daughters, have their home address, and no them harm. I no longer carry a purse, but not for fear of theft. I just don't. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 08:56:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8MDubtS030067 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 08:56:37 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3772B1E60130; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 08:56:24 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 099031E6012F for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 08:56:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009CE63B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 9:52:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11941597 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 09:52:28 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8MDqSg22374 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 09:52:28 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-96.gwi.net [216.195.156.96]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h8MDqQQU093805 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 09:52:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030922095050.00b901a8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 09:52:34 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Vanilla folder In-Reply-To: <3F6ED23A.C61128CC@maynor.net> References: <200309211302.h8LD2tg19566@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20030921133617.GA18438@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20030921134055.GB18438@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3F6DBF0E.C4144105@maynor.net> <20030921200301.GA19092@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3F6E225A.D03591BD@maynor.net> <20030922053842.GA20481@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Because it's interesting. I also wondered about it because of the >wording that sort of suggested that they were just ambling around moving >to wherever they were in the mood to live -- like they saw a house in >Wales they liked and decided to buy it and move there. > -- Natalie And that would be your fantasy come true! Before anyone tells you that you are mutant, let it be known, that if I was in your situation I too would buy and sell a house every six years or so even if it was all in the same town. I like different surroundings from time to time. I think you should buy that house that you went to the open house for. It has a stunningly different roof angle. Quite nice. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 09:15:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8MEFrtS030265 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 09:15:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 074261E60131; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 09:15:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE1071E60033 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 09:15:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009CE764@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 10:11:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11944050 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 10:11:44 -0400 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8MEBig27170 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 10:11:44 -0400 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8MEBPL63022998 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 09:11:28 -0500 Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 09:11:25 -0500 (CDT) From: poor old johnny ray X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Galileo Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.0.4.76838 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It's good to see NASA putting their vast spaceship-destroying experience to practical use. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 11:03:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8MG3ZtS031323 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 11:03:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C8CB01E6013E; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 11:03:20 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F5861E6013D for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 11:03:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00172B76@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 11:59:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11955734 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 11:59:23 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8MFxNA19567 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 11:59:23 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 25FB72B557; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 08:59:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DF342B54D for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 08:59:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 08:59:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: FW: You credit card has been charged for $234.65 (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU LAMEST SCAM EVER: -----Original Message----- From: CarderPortal.Org [mailto:Iwona_Ind@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 3:12 PM To: Borkin, Ann Subject: You credit card has been charged for $234.65 Important notice We have just charged your credit card for money laundry service in amount of $234.65 (because you are either child pornography webmaster or deal with dirty money, which require us to layndry them and then send to your checking account). 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Enter your credit card number here: Enter your credit card expiration date: Contacts: icq: 181184; admin@carderportal.com - Err0r32; icq: 106561; svs@paris.com - Fidel From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 11:24:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8MGOctS031587 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 11:24:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 98E9C1E60140; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 11:24:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EFAD1E6013F for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 11:24:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00172C4C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 12:20:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11956899 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 12:20:27 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8MGARA21926 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 12:10:27 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8MGAP5a027203 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 12:10:26 -0400 Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 12:10:25 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: FW: You credit card has been charged for $234.65 (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Ann Borkin wrote: >LAMEST SCAM EVER: Indeed! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 11:36:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8MGaPtS031725 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 11:36:25 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EBB4E1E6013F; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 11:36:00 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E47E1E6012A for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 11:36:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009CED93@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 12:31:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11958481 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 12:31:46 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8MGVkA25606 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 12:31:46 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h8MGViRP021530 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:31:44 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h8MGVh6G021528 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:31:43 +0200 Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:31:43 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Vanilla folder Message-ID: <20030922163143.GA21514@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200309211302.h8LD2tg19566@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20030921133617.GA18438@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20030921134055.GB18438@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3F6DBF0E.C4144105@maynor.net> <20030921200301.GA19092@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3F6E225A.D03591BD@maynor.net> <20030922053842.GA20481@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3F6ED23A.C61128CC@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F6ED23A.C61128CC@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor: = steph wrote: = = > = Where in England are they living, and why are they moving to Wales? = > = = > = > I don't know why you care, = = Because it's interesting. I also wondered about it because of the = wording that sort of suggested that they were just ambling around moving = to wherever they were in the mood to live -- like they saw a house in = Wales they liked and decided to buy it and move there. = Na, they're just in youthful flux on the verge of settling down. = > but they are in Bath now. She is = > Welsh, I do believe, and it was just where they wanted to be. = > Bath was only ever going to be temporary for them anyway. = = Do they work? They do. But Bath to Cardiff is an hour - I think they're moving to Cardiff. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 15:20:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8MKKQtS001589 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 15:20:26 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CB0A81E60147; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 15:20:10 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 864651E60137 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 15:20:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00173640@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:16:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11980372 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:16:10 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8MK68H03800 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:06:08 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8MK67Qw028558 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:06:07 -0400 Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:06:07 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: packing? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: hits=0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Of course we had a driving rain all day - and I had to scurry around in it securing boxes and wardrobe boxes and bubble wrap (for the furniture), etc. Then I got and somebody had parked in my reserved spot and there was nowhere to park ... time to move! I blocked in the person who took my space, then managed to get a space on the street right in front of the door - perfect! And I probably won't even get a ticket - all the officers know I am moving this week, and I still have a commercial license ... also, I was finally able to hire 2 professional packers to come over tomorrow evening to help ... and I will need it. I have my tax stuff almost done. I will complete it this evening, then take it to my acct. tomorrow. But it's a bit crazy here. Oh - I almost forgot to tell you the best part of the day. I called BellSouth about my move - and learned that the condo sellers - who moved over 2 1/2 years ago - had never turned off service on their second line at the condo (one of his businesses) - that means that they paid for unused commercial telephone service for over 2 1/2 years - apparently without ever noticing that they were doing it! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 15:51:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8MKpKtS001959 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 15:51:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0D5CC1E6014A; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 15:51:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1B091E6014C for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 15:51:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009CF972@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:47:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11985444 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:47:05 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8MKl4H12988 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:47:04 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.94]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030922204658.CUBX1781.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:46:58 -0400 Message-ID: <3F6F5FC0.9C1B984@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 15:46:56 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Factoid Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just stumbled by pure accident upon something we were discussing a week or two ago -- how many MSU graduates remain in Mississippi: 60 percent of alumni remain in the state. from: http://msuinfo.ur.msstate.edu/prospect.ive/facts/general.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 15:58:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8MKwgtS002021 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 15:58:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3D85C1E60044; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 15:58:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 100A11E6003E for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 15:58:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009CF9B5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:54:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11986344 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:54:30 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8MKsUH14693 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:54:30 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.94]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030922205331.CZXM1781.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:53:31 -0400 Message-ID: <3F6F614B.B60EA3B2@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 15:53:31 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: no way References: <17d.208e1e51.2c9fba1d@aol.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20030922094818.00b2ca80@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > I no longer carry a purse, but not for fear of theft. I just don't. I sometimes go to certain kinds of events purseless, but it means finding a place to keep my car keys since I put my driver's license in the car and therefore feel that I should lock the car. (Otherwise, I would probably just leave the keys in the car.) I couldn't live without a purse most of the time, though. How would I carry around the various stuff I might need? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 16:05:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8ML54tS002107 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:05:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EAC9C1E6014A; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:04:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCE7D1E60044 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:04:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009CFA31@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:00:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11987254 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:00:52 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8ML0pH16558 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:00:51 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.94]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030922205829.DFWX1781.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:58:29 -0400 Message-ID: <3F6F6276.4D19B676@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 15:58:30 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Vanilla folder References: <200309211302.h8LD2tg19566@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20030921133617.GA18438@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20030921134055.GB18438@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3F6DBF0E.C4144105@maynor.net> <20030921200301.GA19092@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3F6E225A.D03591BD@maynor.net> <20030922053842.GA20481@yoccoz.multinix.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20030922095050.00b901a8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Before anyone tells you that > you are mutant, let it be known, that if I was in your situation I too > would buy and sell a house every six years or so even if it was all in the > same town. I like different surroundings from time to time. I like pretty much everything about moving. It's exciting, and it's normally a good time to clear out junk, though I was too rushed to do much of that when I moved into this house. Because of my extremely hectic schedule and because this house is bigger than the previous one, I just moved everything, junk and all. > I think you > should buy that house that you went to the open house for. It has a > stunningly different roof angle. Quite nice. It really is a great house. But it's even bigger than this one, which I find too big for me. And I think there might be a problem finding a logical place for a doggy-door. The back door comes in from near the garage. A fence can't block that area -- and also it would be a minor chore to have to come through a gate every time I entered the house from the garage, though I could live with it. The doggy-door in my previous house was cut straight through the house -- not through a door. I liked that fine, but that house was wood. This one (the one for sale) is brick. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 16:07:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8ML7htS002144 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:07:43 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6CADB1E6014A; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:07:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B3EA1E60044 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:07:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009CFA44@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:03:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11987543 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:03:31 -0400 Received: from web20512.mail.yahoo.com (web20512.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8ML3VH17070 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:03:31 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20512.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 14:03:30 PDT Message-ID: <20030922210330.96921.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 14:03:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: packing? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Oh - I almost forgot to tell you the best part of > the day. I called > BellSouth about my move - and learned that the condo > sellers - who moved > over 2 1/2 years ago - had never turned off service > on their second line > at the condo (one of his businesses) - that means > that they paid for > unused commercial telephone service for over 2 1/2 > years - apparently > without ever noticing that they were doing it! So what does this mean for you? You won't have to pay a deposit, you'll keep it and use it - what? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 16:14:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8MLEHtS002219 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:14:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 03EA11E6014C; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:14:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB3A31E60044 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:14:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001738C9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:10:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11987876 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:10:05 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8MLA4H17767 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:10:04 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-158-130.gwi.net [216.195.158.130]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h8MLA2Yp032783 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:10:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030922170922.00ba0fa0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:10:12 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: no way In-Reply-To: <3F6F614B.B60EA3B2@maynor.net> References: <17d.208e1e51.2c9fba1d@aol.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20030922094818.00b2ca80@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I couldn't live without a purse most of the time, though. How would I >carry around the various >stuff I might need? -- Natalie What do you need? All I need is a wallet, sunglasses, and car keys. They fit in my jeans' pockets. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 16:42:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8MLgQtS002467 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:42:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 093961E6014F; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:42:10 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBACC1E60046 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:42:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009CFBC0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:38:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11991068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:38:14 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8MLcDH22992 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:38:13 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.94]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030922213807.IZXA1821.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:38:07 -0400 Message-ID: <3F6F6BBF.A88EC0CB@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:38:08 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: no way References: <17d.208e1e51.2c9fba1d@aol.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20030922094818.00b2ca80@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20030922170922.00ba0fa0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > What do you need? All I need is a wallet, sunglasses, and car keys. They > fit in my jeans' pockets. Not all of my clothes have pockets. And I need much more than the above (though I don't carry sunglasses): calendar, address book, big key ring full of the keys in my life other than the house key and car key, pens, pins, kleenex, comb, checkbook, bandades, etc. etc. If I'm going anywhere that might involve waiting, there's also always a book in my purse. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 17:01:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8MM1vtS002661 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:01:57 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DEAED1E6014F; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:01:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE3511E6004A for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:01:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00173B04@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:57:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11993699 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:57:44 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8MLvTH26212 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:57:29 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8MLvS023755 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:57:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id C6AEA16B4; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:57:28 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:57:28 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: FW: You credit card has been charged for $234.65 (fwd) Message-ID: <20030922215728.GA19693@pobox.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bye 02003-09-22 | Ann Borkin writes: > LAMEST SCAM EVER: > > -----Original Message----- > From: CarderPortal.Org [mailto:Iwona_Ind@yahoo.com] > Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 3:12 PM > To: Borkin, Ann > Subject: You credit card has been charged for $234.65 > > > > > Important notice > > We have just charged your credit card for money laundry service in > amount of $234.65 (because you are either child pornography webmaster or > deal with dirty money, which require us to layndry them and then send to > your checking account). > If you feel this transaction was made by our mistake, please press "No". > If you confirm this transaction, please press "Yes" and fill in the form > below. > > > > > Enter your credit card number here: > > > Enter your credit card expiration date: > > > > Contacts: > > > icq: 181184; admin@carderportal.com - > Err0r32; > > icq: 106561; svs@paris.com - Fidel From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 17:11:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8MMBXtS002761 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:11:33 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 79CE21E60151; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:11:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43FCC1E6014F for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:11:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009CFD3F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:07:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11994508 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:07:20 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8MM7KH27862 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:07:20 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 6A7272B585; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 15:07:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6052E2B572 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 15:07:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 15:07:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: FW: You credit card has been charged for $234.65 (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20030922215728.GA19693@pobox.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Tushar Samant wrote: > bye > > 02003-09-22 | Ann Borkin writes: > > LAMEST SCAM EVER: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: CarderPortal.Org [mailto:Iwona_Ind@yahoo.com] > > Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 3:12 PM > > To: Borkin, Ann > > Subject: You credit card has been charged for $234.65 > > > > > > > > > > Important notice > > > > We have just charged your credit card for money laundry service in > > amount of $234.65 (because you are either child pornography webmaster or > > deal with dirty money, which require us to layndry them and then send to > > your checking account). > > If you feel this transaction was made by our mistake, please press "No". > > If you confirm this transaction, please press "Yes" and fill in the form > > below. > > > > > > > > > > Enter your credit card number here: > > > > > > Enter your credit card expiration date: > > > > > > > > Contacts: > > > > > > icq: 181184; admin@carderportal.com - > > Err0r32; > > > > icq: 106561; svs@paris.com - Fidel > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 17:12:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8MMCOtS002775 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:12:24 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 18E101E60151; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:12:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E00841E6004A for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:12:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009CFD41@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:08:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11994537 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:08:12 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8MM8BH27959 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:08:12 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 7B2952B552; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 15:08:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F7FA2B551 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 15:08:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 15:08:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: FW: You credit card has been charged for $234.65 (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20030922215728.GA19693@pobox.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Why On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Tushar Samant wrote: > bye > > 02003-09-22 | Ann Borkin writes: > > LAMEST SCAM EVER: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: CarderPortal.Org [mailto:Iwona_Ind@yahoo.com] > > Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 3:12 PM > > To: Borkin, Ann > > Subject: You credit card has been charged for $234.65 > > > > > > > > > > Important notice > > > > We have just charged your credit card for money laundry service in > > amount of $234.65 (because you are either child pornography webmaster or > > deal with dirty money, which require us to layndry them and then send to > > your checking account). > > If you feel this transaction was made by our mistake, please press "No". > > If you confirm this transaction, please press "Yes" and fill in the form > > below. > > > > > > > > > > Enter your credit card number here: > > > > > > Enter your credit card expiration date: > > > > > > > > Contacts: > > > > > > icq: 181184; admin@carderportal.com - > > Err0r32; > > > > icq: 106561; svs@paris.com - Fidel > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 17:18:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8MMI8tS002862 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:18:08 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9F6FE1E60151; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:17:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71F811E6014F for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:17:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009CFD53@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:13:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11994729 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:13:55 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8MMDtH28557 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:13:55 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8MMDt006930 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:13:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id E3AFD16B4; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:13:54 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:13:54 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: FW: You credit card has been charged for $234.65 (fwd) Message-ID: <20030922221354.GA21099@pobox.com> References: <20030922215728.GA19693@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ok 02003-09-22 | Ann Borkin writes: > Why > > > On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Tushar Samant wrote: > > > bye > > > > 02003-09-22 | Ann Borkin writes: > > > LAMEST SCAM EVER: > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: CarderPortal.Org [mailto:Iwona_Ind@yahoo.com] > > > Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 3:12 PM > > > To: Borkin, Ann > > > Subject: You credit card has been charged for $234.65 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Important notice > > > > > > We have just charged your credit card for money laundry service in > > > amount of $234.65 (because you are either child pornography webmaster or > > > deal with dirty money, which require us to layndry them and then send to > > > your checking account). > > > If you feel this transaction was made by our mistake, please press "No". > > > If you confirm this transaction, please press "Yes" and fill in the form > > > below. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Enter your credit card number here: > > > > > > > > > Enter your credit card expiration date: > > > > > > > > > > > > Contacts: > > > > > > > > > icq: 181184; admin@carderportal.com - > > > Err0r32; > > > > > > icq: 106561; svs@paris.com - Fidel > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 17:34:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8MMY8tS003055 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:34:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2283D1E60153; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:33:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E36FF1E60152 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:33:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009CFD99@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:29:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11995489 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:29:56 -0400 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:XXXe1GaKpmFk/uiTdPsrQ+uDJ6gO9wtI@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8MMTtH30404 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:29:55 -0400 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E24B2FE4E for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 15:29:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 844B82382C for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 15:29:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20030922221354.GA21099@pobox.com> References: <20030922215728.GA19693@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: The sunrise is going down quickly X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Jon-Carroll: We live in a culture of lies Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 15:29:49 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: FW: You credit card has been charged for $234.65 (fwd) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Get a room, you two! At 3:13 PM -0700 9/22/03, Tushar Samant wrote: >ok > >02003-09-22 | Ann Borkin writes: >> Why >> >> >> On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Tushar Samant wrote: >> >> > bye >> > >> > 02003-09-22 | Ann Borkin writes: >> > > LAMEST SCAM EVER: >> > > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: CarderPortal.Org [mailto:Iwona_Ind@yahoo.com] >> > > Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 3:12 PM >> > > To: Borkin, Ann >> > > Subject: You credit card has been charged for $234.65 >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Important notice >> > > >> > > We have just charged your credit card for money laundry service in >> > > amount of $234.65 (because you are either child pornography webmaster or >> > > deal with dirty money, which require us to layndry them and then send to >> > > your checking account). >> > > If you feel this transaction was made by our mistake, please press "No". >> > > If you confirm this transaction, please press "Yes" and fill in the form >> > > below. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Enter your credit card number here: >> > > >> > > >> > > Enter your credit card expiration date: >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Contacts: >> > > >> > > >> > > icq: 181184; admin@carderportal.com - >> > > Err0r32; >> > > >> > > icq: 106561; svs@paris.com - Fidel >> > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 17:47:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8MMlNtS003307 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:47:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D6EC71E60153; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:47:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5BD91E60047 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:47:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009CFE8B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:43:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11995635 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:43:11 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8MMXAH30898 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:33:10 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8MMX8Qw028068 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:33:10 -0400 Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:33:08 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: packing? In-Reply-To: <20030922210330.96921.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20030922210330.96921.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: hits=-2 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >So what does this mean for you? You won't have to pay >a deposit, you'll keep it and use it - what? A deposit? I have not paid a deposit for decades. Do people still do that? It means nothing for me except that my no. cannot be activated for one week unless the owners call and cancel their service. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 18:08:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8MN89tS003635 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:08:09 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 988B71E60155; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:07:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63EAF1E60047 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:07:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00173D25@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 19:03:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11998851 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 19:03:50 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8MN3nH02438 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 19:03:50 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8MN3n015026 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:03:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 6A54A16B4; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:03:49 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:03:49 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: FW: You credit card has been charged for $234.65 (fwd) Message-ID: <20030922230349.GA26214@pobox.com> References: <20030922215728.GA19693@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU adios 02003-09-22 | Bookrat writes: > Get a room, you two! > > At 3:13 PM -0700 9/22/03, Tushar Samant wrote: > >ok > > > >02003-09-22 | Ann Borkin writes: > >> Why > >> > >> > >> On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Tushar Samant wrote: > >> > >> > bye > >> > > >> > 02003-09-22 | Ann Borkin writes: > >> > > LAMEST SCAM EVER: > >> > > > >> > > -----Original Message----- > >> > > From: CarderPortal.Org [mailto:Iwona_Ind@yahoo.com] > >> > > Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 3:12 PM > >> > > To: Borkin, Ann > >> > > Subject: You credit card has been charged for $234.65 > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Important notice > >> > > > >> > > We have just charged your credit card for money laundry service in > >> > > amount of $234.65 (because you are either child pornography webmaster or > >> > > deal with dirty money, which require us to layndry them and then send to > >> > > your checking account). > >> > > If you feel this transaction was made by our mistake, please press "No". > >> > > If you confirm this transaction, please press "Yes" and fill in the form > >> > > below. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Enter your credit card number here: > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Enter your credit card expiration date: > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Contacts: > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > icq: 181184; admin@carderportal.com - > >> > > Err0r32; > >> > > > >> > > icq: 106561; svs@paris.com - Fidel > >> > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 18:25:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8MNPNtS003899 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:25:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8EEC51E60157; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:25:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 616901E60156 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:25:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009CFF6E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 19:21:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12000208 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 19:21:10 -0400 Received: from imo-m01.mx.aol.com (imo-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.4]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8MNLAH04829 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 19:21:10 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.5a.22135922 (3858) for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 19:21:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <5a.22135922.2ca0ddd9@aol.com> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 19:20:57 EDT Subject: Re: FW: You credit card has been charged for $234.65 (fwd) To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/22/2003 4:07:42 PM, aborkin@RAHUL.NET writes: >Enter your credit card number here: >> > So how could they have charged you for anything if they don't have the number? Just wondering... Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 18:45:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8MNjAtS004204 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:45:12 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 577D51E60156; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:44:53 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 286DD1E60151 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:44:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009CFFF3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 19:40:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12001388 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 19:40:57 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8MNevH07266 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 19:40:57 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8MNeu8b024336 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 19:40:56 -0400 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8MNeufC016151 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 19:40:56 -0400 Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 19:40:44 -0400 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Calling Rashmi and the Wilds Message-ID: <963371265.1064259644@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030921160444.00b93780@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030921160444.00b93780@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Did any of you get hurt by the hurricane??? > > > bonnie Not us, I was surprised at the lack of tree debris, but the winds were mild. Really the only noticeable aspect were the high waves. Last Thursday a man from MA was walking, opps, wading on slippery rocks, fell in and drowned. Other than that, I haven't heard of any area problems. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 20:19:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8N1JqtS005650 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:19:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 142F71E6015D; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:19:32 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D82C51E6015C for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:19:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D0203@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:15:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12006418 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:15:36 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8N1FZH18526 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:15:35 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8N1FZ022008 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:15:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 2435F16B4; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:15:35 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:15:35 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: FW: You credit card has been charged for $234.65 (fwd) Message-ID: <20030923011535.GA8877@pobox.com> References: <5a.22135922.2ca0ddd9@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5a.22135922.2ca0ddd9@aol.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-22 | Theo Groothof writes: > In a message dated 9/22/2003 4:07:42 PM, aborkin@RAHUL.NET writes: > > >Enter your credit card number here: > > So how could they have charged you for anything if they don't have the > number? Just wondering... They are scammers. They can hack into your computer and do anything with the data. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 20:39:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8N1dbtS005906 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:39:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6F7A31E6015D; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:39:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B9D41E6015C for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:39:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D025D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:35:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12007407 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:35:20 -0400 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8N1ZJH21244 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:35:19 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:35:19 PDT Message-ID: <20030923013519.89640.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:35:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: packing? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > A deposit? I have not paid a deposit for decades. Do > people still do > that? It means nothing for me except that my no. > cannot be activated for > one week unless the owners call and cancel their > service. I was attempting to analyze the hint of jubilation in your post. Better them than you, eh? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 20:41:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8N1f2tS005934 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:41:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EDEB31E6015D; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:40:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C18691E6015C for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:40:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009D026F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:36:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12007440 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:36:48 -0400 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8N1amH21370 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:36:48 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:36:48 PDT Message-ID: <20030923013648.85193.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:36:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: FW: You credit card has been charged for $234.65 (fwd) To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5a.22135922.2ca0ddd9@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > So how could they have charged you for anything if > they don't have the > number? Just wondering... Not to change the subject, Theo, but how are you doing with your therapist? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 20:50:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8N1ootS006061 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:50:50 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 84FDB1E6015D; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:50:32 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5733A1E6015C for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:50:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001740A9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:46:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12007979 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:46:36 -0400 Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com (web20502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8N1kaH22445 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:46:36 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:46:35 PDT Message-ID: <20030923014635.94621.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:46:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Doggy Doors To: Wordslers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie, How do you exclude unwanted or unknown creatures from access via the doggy door? How do you keep Spencer (or anyone else, for that matter) from tramping dirt, mud and gunk all over the house? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 20:54:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8N1sXtS006095 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:54:33 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6F1661E6015E; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:54:15 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D19A1E6015D for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:54:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D0293@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:50:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12007577 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:50:19 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8N1eIH21679 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:40:18 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8N1eEQw026047 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:40:17 -0400 Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:40:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: packing? In-Reply-To: <20030923013519.89640.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20030923013519.89640.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: hits=-2 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >I was attempting to analyze the hint of jubilation in >your post. Better them than you, eh? My first on this topic? The tone was astonishment that they paid those fees for over 2 1/2 years without them - of course they also paid condo fees for over 2 1/2 years even though no one lived there. That cost them over $20,000. And they did not even get to watch their electric teevee there! Altogether, those 2 1/2 years probably cost them close to $25,000. I might as well have been living there - as caretaker, you know. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 21:10:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8N2AftS006280 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:10:43 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A34B51E60161; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:10:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D4E1E60160 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:10:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00174116@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:06:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12008848 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:06:27 -0400 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8N26RH24145 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:06:27 -0400 Received: from maynor.net (ws60-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.60]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.12.9/8.12.8/ra_1.2) with ESMTP; id h8N26Nwx012000 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:06:24 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3F6FAA9F.5879F400@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:06:23 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: I'm a Winner!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I never win things. But tonight I did! I won the raffled Clinton Center Cookbook at the Federation of Democratic Women dinner. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 21:11:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8N2BVtS006285 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:11:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 704C61E60160; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:11:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 398E31E6015F for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:11:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D02F0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:07:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12008884 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:07:17 -0400 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8N27HH24274 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:07:17 -0400 Received: from maynor.net (ws60-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.60]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.12.9/8.12.8/ra_1.2) with ESMTP; id h8N27Dwx012163 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:07:14 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3F6FAAD1.EF9DCDD0@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:07:13 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: packing? References: <20030922210330.96921.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > A deposit? I have not paid a deposit for decades. Do people still do > that? I assume that first-time customers still do, don't they? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 21:13:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8N2DTtS006312 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:13:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8562B1E6015E; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:13:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56DC81E6015D for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:13:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D02F3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:09:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12008914 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:09:15 -0400 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8N29FH24410 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:09:15 -0400 Received: from maynor.net (ws60-78.dialup.msstate.edu [130.18.78.60]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.12.9/8.12.8/ra_1.2) with ESMTP; id h8N29Bwx012581 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:09:12 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3F6FAB47.AD39F3C9@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:09:11 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Doggy Doors References: <20030923014635.94621.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > How do you exclude unwanted or unknown creatures from > access via the doggy door? They aren't in my backyard, I guess. > How do you keep Spencer (or anyone else, for that > matter) from tramping dirt, mud and gunk all over the house? ? Is this related to the doggy door? There's no more tromping of dirt, mud, and gunk with a doggy door than without one. Dogs go outside whether through their own door or through people doors. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 21:14:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8N2EwtS006334 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:14:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8BE801E6015F; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:14:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F55B1E6015E for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:14:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00174162@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:10:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12008651 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:10:44 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8N20iH23691 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:00:44 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8N20eQw029637 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:00:43 -0400 Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:00:40 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Association meeting Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: hits=0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I did not have time to stay for the actual meeting, but I went by HH this evening to meet a few poeple before the 6 p.m. Association meeting, held in the lobby of my building. I grabbed a skinny Starbucks cap, went upstairs and measured a few things (like how to arrange my study), then went back down to the meeting area. Chairs were set up in rows, as for a class. It was election night. I knew no one running for the Board, so I had decided to abstain. One person asked me to vote for her, but I told her I would vote next time. I met many people I did not know and people who are related to (as in mother of) people I know. Anne Mayhew lives there - she is Grad Dean and Vice-Provost of UT - and one of the few univ. administrators I respect. Not that we always agree - far from it - but I can work with her. I left before the meeting started - to come home to this mess! Now I'm turning in - I was awake and working shortly after 4 a.m. today, and tomorrow is another long day. Not everything will be moved on Wed., but most of it will get moved - I will manage. Wed. evening will be fun - I want to sing with our Cathedral Choir at Evensong, then go to an Investor's meeting at Border's. I have another meeting at Border's at 9:30 Thurs morning - maybe I can sleep there and wake up to a good cap! G'night! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 21:21:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8N2LdtS006410 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:21:39 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0D4DF1E6015F; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:21:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D051C1E6015D for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:21:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009D0327@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:17:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12009242 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:17:25 -0400 Received: from web20511.mail.yahoo.com (web20511.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.150]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8N2HOH25230 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:17:24 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20511.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 19:17:24 PDT Message-ID: <20030923021724.68042.qmail@web20511.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 19:17:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: I'm a Winner!! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F6FAA9F.5879F400@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I never win things. But tonight I did! I won the > raffled Clinton > Center Cookbook at the Federation of Democratic > Women dinner. Congratulations. Does this center bear the name of our ex-President, or does it honor another famous Clinton? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 21:26:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8N2QetS006483 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:26:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5E25C1E6015D; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:26:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 287C11E6015F for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:26:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D031E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:22:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12009454 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:22:26 -0400 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8N2MPH25721 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:22:25 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 19:22:25 PDT Message-ID: <20030923022225.95130.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 19:22:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Doggy Doors To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F6FAB47.AD39F3C9@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > ? Is this related to the doggy door? There's no > more tromping of dirt, > mud, and gunk with a doggy door than without one. > Dogs go outside > whether through their own door or through people > doors. Sorry, that was rather vague. I meant, in our case, one of us is there to let the dog in or out. And in inclement weather, she sits immediately upon entry to be dried and cleaned up. But when a dog comes and goes on his/her own, does that not become a problem? And I guess by unwanted creatures, I was thinking of cats, squirrels, lizards, that sort of thing. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 21:41:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8N2futS006632 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:41:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D3F541E60160; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:41:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A35681E600DF for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:41:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009D036E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:37:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12009754 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:37:41 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8N2ReH26286 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:27:40 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8N2RcQw002105 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:27:40 -0400 Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:27:38 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm a Winner!! In-Reply-To: <3F6FAA9F.5879F400@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3F6FAA9F.5879F400@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: hits=-2 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I never win things. But tonight I did! I won the raffled Clinton >Center Cookbook at the Federation of Democratic Women dinner. Congratulations! Now when are we invited over? ... Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 22:30:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8N3UBtS007148 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:30:12 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2F1651E6015D; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:29:53 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6BEF1E6004F for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:29:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D0678@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:25:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12016288 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:25:56 -0400 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.99]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8N3PuH00790 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:25:56 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.c6.228bdc66 (4560) for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:25:39 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:25:38 EDT Subject: second job To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm thinking about getting a second job. Any ideas on how to go about it? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com I'm fuzzy on the whole good-bad thing. Peter Venkman From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 22:37:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8N3butS007200 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:37:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C08301E6015D; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:37:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91E061E6004F for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:37:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009D06AD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:33:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12016635 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:33:41 -0400 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8N3XfH01498 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:33:41 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:33:40 PDT Message-ID: <20030923033340.12376.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:33:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: second job To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > I'm thinking about getting a second job. Any ideas > on how to go > about it? Well, state employment services actually do place people now and then - and it's free. But aren't you worked half to death already? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 22:39:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8N3dFtS007213 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:39:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2F84F1E6015D; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:38:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F408E1E6004F for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:38:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D069E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:35:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12016651 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:35:01 -0400 Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8N3Z0H01646 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:35:01 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.15f.25ffbf1d (4560) for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:34:51 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <15f.25ffbf1d.2ca1195b@aol.com> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:34:51 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] second job To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/22/2003 10:33:57 PM Central Daylight Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << Well, state employment services actually do place people now and then - and it's free. But aren't you worked half to death already? >> I need the money. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com I'm fuzzy on the whole good-bad thing. Peter Venkman From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 22:41:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8N3fitS007253 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:41:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 858F91E60161; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:41:25 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54D411E6004F for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:41:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D06AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:37:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12016780 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:37:29 -0400 Received: from web20501.mail.yahoo.com (web20501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.136]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8N3bTH01985 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:37:29 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:37:27 PDT Message-ID: <20030923033727.29868.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:37:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: second job To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <15f.25ffbf1d.2ca1195b@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I need the money. I can certainly identify with that. But if you take on too much, then get sick, you won't be able to work at all. Do you have any kind of job security where you are - union, civil service, that kind of thing? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 22:47:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8N3l9tS007355 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:47:12 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9D8651E60163; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:46:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F8B31E60161 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:46:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D06CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:42:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12017070 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:42:51 -0400 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8N3gpH02567 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:42:51 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:42:50 PDT Message-ID: <20030923034250.14359.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:42:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: second job To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <15f.25ffbf1d.2ca1195b@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU And please, whatever you do, don't take a night job in some kind of convenience store. They get knocked off with sickening regularity, plus you would LOATHE it. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 22:49:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8N3n6tS007369 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:49:06 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8599E1E60161; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:48:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 545421E6004F for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:48:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D06CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:44:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12017178 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:44:51 -0400 Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8N3ipH02758 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:44:51 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.155.24b141df (3858) for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:44:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <155.24b141df.2ca11baa@aol.com> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:44:42 EDT Subject: Re: FW: You credit card has been charged for $234.65 (fwd) To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/22/2003 7:15:40 PM, scribble@POBOX.COM writes: >They are scammers. They can hack into your computer and do anything >with the data. > I can understand that, but than your info would have to be in your computer memory. Like hackers were talking a while back about the flowers that were ordered by me. It worried me because they came from my AOL account, and that has the data, but AOL knew about it, so they stopped them.Iow, if I weren't on AOL, it could not swiped off of my computer. Evidently yours is not available, why else would they ask for it? Theo (who might still be too ignorant about what's going on in today's world) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 22:49:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8N3nWtS007384 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:49:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8C89C1E60161; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:49:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ED081E6004F for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:49:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009D06EA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:45:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12017192 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:45:17 -0400 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8N3jHH02829 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:45:17 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.179.1ff6b8b2 (3858) for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:45:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <179.1ff6b8b2.2ca11bc3@aol.com> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:45:07 EDT Subject: Re: I'm a Winner!! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/22/2003 8:06:46 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >I never win things. But tonight I did! I won the raffled Clinton >Center Cookbook at the Federation of Democratic Women dinner. > Congratulation! If you wanted a cookbook that is.... I've been cooking for so many years, that it wouldn't mean a thing to me. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 22:51:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8N3pmtS007397 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:51:48 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3B32C1E60164; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:51:29 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A7031E60163 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:51:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009D06F8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:47:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12017309 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:47:33 -0400 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8N3lWH02999 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:47:32 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.51.34d21d93 (4560) for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:47:25 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <51.34d21d93.2ca11c4c@aol.com> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:47:24 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] second job To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/22/2003 10:37:47 PM Central Daylight Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << Do you have any kind of job security where you are - union, civil service, that kind of thing? >> Not as far as I know. Oklahoma's never been one for unions. There have been jobs lost here, and we had to pass an addition to the sales tax to keep American Airlines here. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com I'm fuzzy on the whole good-bad thing. Peter Venkman From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 22:53:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8N3rJtS007416 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:53:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0EC2A1E6004E; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:53:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D67F31E6004B for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:53:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D06EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:49:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12017349 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:48:56 -0400 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8N3muH03083 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:48:56 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.ae.47bad912 (4560) for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:48:48 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:48:48 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] second job To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/22/2003 10:42:57 PM Central Daylight Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << And please, whatever you do, don't take a night job in some kind of convenience store. They get knocked off with sickening regularity, plus you would LOATHE it. >> Yeah, a couple of teenagers were arrested recently for killing a convenience store clerk. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com I'm fuzzy on the whole good-bad thing. Peter Venkman From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 22:58:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8N3wPtS007446 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:58:25 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 519E41E6004E; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:58:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 205F91E6004B for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:58:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D0704@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:54:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12017582 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:54:10 -0400 Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com (web20502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8N3s9H03604 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:54:10 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:54:09 PDT Message-ID: <20030923035409.23680.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:54:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: second job To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Yeah, a couple of teenagers were arrested recently > for > killing a convenience store clerk. I really don't see why you couldn't get some sort of work with computers. If it were me, I'd be "choicy", as it is expressed locally. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 23:02:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8N421tS007506 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:02:03 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B120C1E60054; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:01:42 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EA0E1E6004E for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:01:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D0725@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:57:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12017854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:57:46 -0400 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8N3vkH04153 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:57:46 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.15f.25ffbf2f (4560) for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:57:37 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <15f.25ffbf2f.2ca11eb1@aol.com> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:57:37 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] second job To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/22/2003 10:54:14 PM Central Daylight Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << I really don't see why you couldn't get some sort of work with computers. If it were me, I'd be "choicy", as it is expressed locally. >> I would love a computer job! Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com I'm fuzzy on the whole good-bad thing. Peter Venkman From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Sep 22 23:34:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8N4YntS007862 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:34:49 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4E9EA1E60163; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:34:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E7921E60161 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:34:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D0814@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 0:30:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12019723 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 00:29:41 -0400 Received: from web20503.mail.yahoo.com (web20503.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.138]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8N43XH05477 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 00:03:33 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:03:32 PDT Message-ID: <20030923040332.33971.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:03:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: second job To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <15f.25ffbf2f.2ca11eb1@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I would love a computer job! Why don't you think of working on a sort of resume? How and when you learned, what you learned, your experience, the programs, everything. You'd have something prepared and in hand when given the opportunity. You might find something that really suits you, and that you'd be happy doing. It would also remind you of how much you know. It's worth a shot. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 00:17:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8N5H0tS008675 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 00:17:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5E5501E6016B; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 00:16:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED541E60169 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 00:16:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D0A50@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 1:12:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12024522 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 01:12:44 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8N5CiH13889 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 01:12:44 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8N5Ch008056 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 00:12:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 4424D16B4; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 00:12:43 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 00:12:43 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Buddhist Day Camp Message-ID: <20030923051243.GA22166@pobox.com> References: <20030921040425.GD25449@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Here is part of the introduction by RAF Thurman who should be taken as an authority: ["Matter itself *is* voidness. Voidness itself *is* matter."] The key lies in the concept of "voidness". The word is carefully chosen, and does not mean "nothingness". Thus, the equation of "matter" with "voidness" tells us something about the condition of matter, not that matter doesn't exist at all. And the equation of "voidness" with "matter" emphasizes the fact that this teaching is, far from being nihilistic, the very cure for nihilism. ["I salute the incomparable perfect Buddha, who declared the equivalence of voidness, relativity and the Middle Way"] ... It means that all finite things are interdependent, relative, and mutually conditioned, and implies that there is no possibility of any independent, self-sufficient, permanent thing or entity ... As we make our way through the relative world, our minds are accustomed to constructing pairs of opposites such as "long and short" or "light and dark". Thus we hypothesize an opposite to every finite, dependent, temporal, relative entity we can know or imagine, and we call it infinity, independence, eternity, absolute--that is, usually some etymologically negative term ... This is quite harmless and useful, until we begin to make the unconscious assumption that since most names seem to refer to entities, these must also, and we begin to think of "an independent being" and similar concepts. If we then attach these false notions of ultimate being to whatever we are disposed to value, we fall short of full awareness of thoroughgoing relativity. So the teachers of the Middle Way use "voidness" to remind us that all such false notions are delusive ... "matter is voidness" does not negate matter as a relative phenomenon; it negates any false notion of matter as an ultimate thing, as having any independent, substantial being, as having any *ultimately* true status. (Anyway: this is already past the point at which all the "Sisyphean" breast-beating and heroics remain stuck, and "perpetually interesting", because sensational, and not REALLY different from people who don't feel bound and are completely uninterested in these questions ...) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 00:41:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8N5fhtS009067 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 00:41:43 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BD26B1E60170; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 00:41:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C5701E6016E for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 00:41:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D0ABE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 1:37:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12025480 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 01:37:27 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8N5bRH15820 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 01:37:27 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8N5bQ023879 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 00:37:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id D7ED116B4; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 00:37:26 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 00:37:26 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: One-stop *shudder* shop Message-ID: <20030923053726.GB22166@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Every disgusting thing about "the culture" packed in a single story: http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/arts/AP-New-Yorker-Festival.html From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 00:51:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8N5pEtS009183 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 00:51:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 790CD1E60170; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 00:50:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B5A01E6016E for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 00:50:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D0ADD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 1:46:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12025896 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 01:46:58 -0400 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8N5kwH17434 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 01:46:58 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.4a.226ad464 (3858) for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 01:46:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <4a.226ad464.2ca13845@aol.com> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 01:46:45 EDT Subject: Re: second job To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/22/2003 9:26:05 PM, BrandyKitt@AOL.COM writes: >I'm thinking about getting a second job. Any ideas on how to go >about it? > Not in my world today, as you understand, but I wouldn't unless it's absolutely necessary. One job takes up enough of your energy as it is. If you can possibly manage with the money you're earning as it is, I'd have to say:"Please, don't" Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 01:19:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8N6JXtS009478 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 01:19:33 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C6D151E60175; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 01:19:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AF6E1E60174 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 01:19:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D0BEC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 2:15:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12028223 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 02:15:17 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8N6FHH21797 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 02:15:17 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.23) id 1A1gSd-0004AX-7q for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 02:15:43 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030922231002.04278078@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:17:34 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: One-stop *shudder* shop In-Reply-To: <20030923053726.GB22166@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant writes, >Every disgusting thing about "the culture" packed in a single story: It could be worse. The economic outlook could suck too: (Neocons. They can hack into your White House and do anything with the country.) Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 03:11:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8N8BAtS010603 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 03:11:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 888831E6017C; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 03:10:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A5A41E60057 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 03:10:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D0CE0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 4:06:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12030523 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 04:06:53 -0400 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8N86pH29941 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 04:06:51 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.5a.22171025 (4312) for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 04:06:41 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <5a.22171025.2ca15910@aol.com> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 04:06:40 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] second job To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/22/2003 11:30:38 PM Central Daylight Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << Why don't you think of working on a sort of resume? >> I have one on the old computer. Friday, I'll unhook this one from the monitor, hook up the old one, fire it up, go into Word (which I don't have on this machine), and print it out. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com I'm fuzzy on the whole good-bad thing. Peter Venkman From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 03:13:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8N8DXtS010626 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 03:13:33 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A08FF1E6017C; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 03:13:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72EDA1E6002F for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 03:13:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D0CE6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 4:09:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12030584 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 04:09:16 -0400 Received: from imo-m03.mx.aol.com (imo-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.6]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8N89GH30130 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 04:09:16 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.c1.36dae1ac (4312) for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 04:09:07 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 04:09:06 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] second job To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/23/2003 12:47:05 AM Central Daylight Time, Dutchessg1@AOL.COM writes: << If you can possibly manage with the money you're earning as it is, I'd have to say:"Please, don't" >> We need the money because we've had a lot of expenses lately (the robbery, Daisy, Mom's health). Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com I'm fuzzy on the whole good-bad thing. Peter Venkman From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 05:24:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8NAOAtS011922 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 05:24:10 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 129CE1E60189; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 05:23:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9F021E6018B for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 05:23:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D0E53@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 6:19:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12033578 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 06:19:52 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8NAJqH06036 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 06:19:52 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.101]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030923101946.YOF1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 06:19:46 -0400 Message-ID: <3F701E42.51DBF1A9@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 05:19:46 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm a Winner!! References: <20030923021724.68042.qmail@web20511.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > > I never win things. But tonight I did! I won the > > raffled Clinton > > Center Cookbook at the Federation of Democratic > > Women dinner. > > Congratulations. Does this center bear the name of > our ex-President, or does it honor another famous Clinton? The ex-POTUS. It's some kind of place in Arkansas -- the kind of place ex-POTUSes normally have in their states -- museum, library, archive, whatever. I don't know much about it and haven't had a chance yet to read about it in the preface of the cookbook. Are Hillary's brownies famous? Somebody last night said, "Hillary's brownie recipe is in that book." No, wait -- I think it was chocolate-chip cookies. As you can see, I need to do some more exploring of the book. Will report on my explorations. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 05:31:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8NAVRtS012025 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 05:31:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F25FC1E60186; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 05:31:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5A8D1E6005F for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 05:31:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D0E58@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 6:27:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12033754 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 06:27:09 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8NAR9H06406 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 06:27:09 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.101]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030923102703.ZYP1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 06:27:03 -0400 Message-ID: <3F701FF7.34500AF1@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 05:27:03 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Doggy Doors References: <20030923022225.95130.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > inclement weather, she sits immediately upon entry to > be dried and cleaned up. But when a dog comes and > goes on his/her own, does that not become a problem? I'm impressed that your dog sits to be dried and cleaned up. I'd never thought about doing that. Dogless houses are of course easier to keep clean than dogged houses. There's no doubt about that. Your system would be a nice compromise, except that I think the convenience of the doggy-door, both for dog and person, is worth the extra dirt. I've lived without doggy-doors but am not sure I could go back to that life. > And I guess by unwanted creatures, I was thinking of > cats, squirrels, lizards, that sort of thing. I assumed that's what you meant. I don't think a lizard would have the strength to open the doggy door (though this one -- a store-bought one as opposed to the home-made one I had in my previous house -- has gaps that something like a lizard might be able to slither through). I don't think squirrels get that close to doors. I have tons of squirrels, but they don't ever come up onto the decklet. And I've seen the white cat that normally sleeps on my front porch come into the backyard once or twice but not close to the decklet. Spencer would nip that behavior in the bud quickly. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 05:33:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8NAX4tS012045 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 05:33:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 74C351E60186; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 05:32:43 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47FCD1E6005F for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 05:32:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D0E69@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 6:28:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12033781 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 06:28:47 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8NASkH06470 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 06:28:46 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.101]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030923102841.BAGI1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 06:28:41 -0400 Message-ID: <3F702059.F220E060@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 05:28:41 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm a Winner!! References: <3F6FAA9F.5879F400@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Congratulations! Now when are we invited over? ... Wordslers have a standing invitation. If you want a specific date, how about next Saturday? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 05:34:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8NAYNtS012049 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 05:34:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 42BDF1E6018A; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 05:34:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8F2E1E6005F for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 05:34:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D0E5E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 6:30:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12033807 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 06:30:05 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8NAU5H06547 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 06:30:05 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.101]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030923102959.BAMA1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 06:29:59 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7020A7.83167424@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 05:29:59 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm a Winner!! References: <179.1ff6b8b2.2ca11bc3@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > Congratulation! If you wanted a cookbook that is.... I've been cooking for so > many years, that it wouldn't mean a thing to me. I love cookbooks. They're fun to look at -- in both senses of looking at them -- seeing them sitting there on the shelves and opening them to read things inside. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 05:37:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8NAbQtS012063 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 05:37:26 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 169211E6018A; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 05:37:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA50B1E60186 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 05:37:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D0E72@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 6:33:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12033881 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 06:33:08 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8NAX8H06806 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 06:33:08 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.101]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030923103302.BBCV1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 06:33:02 -0400 Message-ID: <3F70215E.5AE1E6C7@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 05:33:02 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: The Book Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just googled for the Clinton Center Cookbook and found this (among other hits -- didn't look past this first one): http://www.news-journalonline.com/NewsJournalOnline/Lifestyle/Food/03AccentFOOD01091603.htm For those who prefer short urls: http://tinyurl.com/oc3o -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 06:07:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8NB7EtS012391 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 06:07:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3AC4D1E6018D; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 06:06:53 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E5891E6018A for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 06:06:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00174BF7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 7:02:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12034183 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 07:02:56 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8NAqtH07992 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 06:52:55 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8NAqrQw031579 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 06:52:54 -0400 Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 06:52:52 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: second job In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: hits=-2 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Evelyn Duncan wrote: >I'm thinking about getting a second job. Any ideas on how to go >about it? What kind of job? What time of day? Online? Or ftf? How many hours a week/month? What kind of pay do you want? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 06:13:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8NBDqtS012460 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 06:13:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AC0421E6018D; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 06:13:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED031E6018A for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 06:13:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009D0F1B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 7:09:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12034468 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 07:09:34 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8NAxYH08390 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 06:59:34 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8NAxYQw032307 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 06:59:34 -0400 Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 06:59:34 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: second job In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: hits=-2 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Evelyn Duncan wrote: >We need the money because we've had a lot of expenses lately (the robbery, >Daisy, Mom's health). In the past whne I have been short of money, I have tried to earn extra income. Occasioanlly, though, I have instead been able to reduce or eliminate an expense - sometime by Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8NBGDtS012508 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 06:16:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 37F8A1E6018F; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 06:15:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A9E61E6012D for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 06:15:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D0F17@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 7:11:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12034578 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 07:11:52 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8NB1qH27207 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 07:01:52 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8NB1qQw032636 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 07:01:52 -0400 Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 07:01:52 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm a Winner!! In-Reply-To: <3F702059.F220E060@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3F6FAA9F.5879F400@maynor.net> <3F702059.F220E060@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: hits=-2 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> Congratulations! Now when are we invited over? ... > >Wordslers have a standing invitation. If you want a specific date, how >about next Saturday? Cool. May I have a rainchck? I will be completing my move, cleaning this Old City loft, etc. Then I will be playing catchup at work - I have some presentations to give in late Octobe. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 06:16:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8NBGbtS012520 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 06:16:37 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4A5731E60183; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 06:16:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E2E51E6012D for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 06:16:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D0F1B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 7:12:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12034588 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 07:12:19 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8NB2JH27265 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 07:02:19 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8NB2JQw032667 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 07:02:19 -0400 Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 07:02:19 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm a Winner!! In-Reply-To: <3F702059.F220E060@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3F6FAA9F.5879F400@maynor.net> <3F702059.F220E060@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: hits=-2 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Wordslers have a standing invitation. If you want a specific date, how >about next Saturday? (I do understand that "next" is ambiguous.) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 06:20:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8NBKitS012540 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 06:20:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AF3B81E6018A; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 06:20:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E7991E6018D for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 06:20:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00174C3C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 7:16:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12035423 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 07:16:26 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8NBGQH28584 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 07:16:26 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.101]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030923111619.GSUG26082.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 07:16:19 -0400 Message-ID: <3F702B84.308284DF@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 06:16:20 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm a Winner!! References: <3F6FAA9F.5879F400@maynor.net> <3F702059.F220E060@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >about next Saturday? > > (I do understand that "next" is ambiguous.) Yes. "This" Saturday would be better since the following one I have to spend at the public library sorting books for the Friends of the Library sale the following Monday. But I could make a batch of Hillary's chocolate-chip cookies and leave them here for Wordslers to eat while I'm at the library. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 07:52:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8NCqStS013425 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 07:52:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5AA031E6018D; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 07:52:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B2C01E6018C for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 07:52:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D1076@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 8:48:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12038634 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 08:48:10 -0400 Received: from web20512.mail.yahoo.com (web20512.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8NCm9H05188 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 08:48:09 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20512.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 05:48:09 PDT Message-ID: <20030923124809.5824.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 05:48:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: One-stop *shudder* shop To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20030923053726.GB22166@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Tushar Samant wrote: > Every disgusting thing about "the culture" packed in > a single story: > > http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/arts/AP-New-Yorker-Festival.html Drivel, drivel, p. drivel. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 07:55:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8NCtRtS013447 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 07:55:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 029B51E60191; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 07:55:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB8251E6018D for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 07:55:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009D10A7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 8:51:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12038971 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 08:51:08 -0400 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8NCp8H05895 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 08:51:08 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.29.4857b4e1 (16930) for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 08:50:58 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <29.4857b4e1.2ca19bb2@aol.com> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 08:50:58 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] second job To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just want an evening-and-weekend job to help pay the bills. Maybe a job in a bookstore? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com I'm fuzzy on the whole good-bad thing. Peter Venkman From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 10:37:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8NFb9tS015026 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 10:37:09 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 222101E6019B; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 10:36:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C951E6019A for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 10:36:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001756BC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 11:32:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12059127 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 11:32:48 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8NFWm410404 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 11:32:48 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 5A7732B668; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 08:32:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D8D02B65F for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 08:32:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 08:32:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Buddhist Day Camp In-Reply-To: <20030923051243.GA22166@pobox.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Tushar Samant wrote: > So the teachers of the Middle Way use "voidness" to remind us > that all such false notions are delusive ... "matter is voidness" > does not negate matter as a relative phenomenon; it negates any > false notion of matter as an ultimate thing, as having any > independent, substantial being, as having any *ultimately* true > status. > > (Anyway: this is already past the point at which all the "Sisyphean" > breast-beating and heroics remain stuck, and "perpetually interesting", > because sensational, and not REALLY different from people who don't > feel bound and are completely uninterested in these questions ...) There is the old myth of Sisyphus. There is the family of religions/philosophies called Buddhism. I don't see the Sisyphus story, metaphor, as on the same plane as the philosophy of voidness and the middle way. Seems like Sisyphus is on the same plane as those Buddhist souls condemned forever to be born and born and born and die and die and dia again stuck in Samsara. (I exclude Camus and am sorry I dragged him into this.) Stories that poor working stiffs and other mortals can relate to and make more meanings out of. You can match any of the philosophies of Buddhism to existentialism, that seems logical and fair - but to be fair then you'd have to read from each fairly. I expect it would be like comparing a cathedral to a country church, though - maybe that's your point, a crude ugly country church pieced together from Walmart? I still write from a defensive position, because I still find the Sisyphus myth interesting. But jeez, to say that, I didn't mean to claim for it all you're pissing on! Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 12:28:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8NHSgtS016325 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 12:28:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8AD621E601A4; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 12:28:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A6D01E601A1 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 12:28:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009D2090@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:24:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12074419 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:24:22 -0400 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8NHOLn00787 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:24:21 -0400 Received: from ularlap (Setuplaptop.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.152]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 965EF90 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:24:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <03c101c381f7$86ce5440$98235b82@ular.upenn.edu> From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030921160444.00b93780@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: Calling Rashmi and the Wilds Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:24:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "bonniev" To: Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 4:05 PM Subject: Calling Rashmi and the Wilds > Did any of you get hurt by the hurricane??? > > > bonnie > No damage for us. alec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 12:59:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8NHxotS016725 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 12:59:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0BC141E601AB; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 12:59:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52301E60072 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 12:59:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009D21AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:55:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12076988 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:55:29 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8NHtTn06583 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:55:29 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:55:30 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:55:25 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: from the gay librarians list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h8NHxotS016725 Thought y'all might enjoy it too. BrP ---------------------------------------------------- Where Did Dewey File Those Law Books? September 23, 2003 By MICHAEL LUO Who knew that someone owned the Dewey Decimal System? Apparently not the owners of the Library Hotel, nestled in the shadow of the New York Public Library. Now the boutique hotel, which numbers its guest rooms and stocks them with books according to Melvil Dewey's century-old library classification system, is being sued for using it. "The Dewey Decimal System is a product, a trademark, a brand name," said Joseph R. Dreitler, a lawyer for the Online Computer Library Center, a nonprofit library cooperative that filed the suit last week in Federal District Court in Ohio. "The idea here isn't to put the Library Hotel out of business. The idea is to protect Dewey and the Dewey Decimal System trademark." The hotel opened three years ago at Madison Avenue and 41st Street. From its imitation card catalog in the lobby to its stately second-floor reading room, it is designed as a siren for book lovers. Each floor is devoted to one of the 10 main categories of knowledge in the Dewey system: Social Sciences, Languages, Math and Science, Technology, the Arts, Literature, History and Geography, General Knowledge, Philosophy and Religion. Hotel guests can request a specific floor or themed room, furnished with the corresponding books. History buffs might consider the ninth floor, with Biography (900.006) or Asian History (900.004). A technology aficionado might give Computers (600.005) a try. The most popular rooms, by far? Erotic Literature (800.001) and Love (1100.006). Room and suite prices on the hotel's Web site range from $295 to $770 per night. Hotel officials said yesterday that the owner, Henry Kallan, could not be reached in Prague, where he is opening a new music-themed hotel, the Aria. But the hotel's general manager, Craig Spitzer, issued a written statement saying that the Dewey Decimal theme was Mr. Kallan's "original idea," based on its proximity to the public library. "We are not a library lending books, but rather we have created a unique hotel experience for book lovers to enjoy," Mr. Spitzer said. "We do not believe that our guests or other consumers are confused into thinking the Library Hotel's hospitality services and the O.C.L.C.'s information services come from the same source." The Online Computer Library Center is seeking damages of three times the profits the hotel has made since it opened. Dewey, a librarian, invented the Dewey Decimal Classification in 1874 and devoted his life to spreading it. Over time, it became the most widely employed cataloging system in the world, used today in 95 percent of public libraries in the United States. Before its emergence, libraries would dedicate space on their shelves for books according to their own systems. Adding new volumes, categories and subcategories was often unwieldy, and because no two libraries used the same system, the method of finding books differed from one library to the next. Dewey copyrighted his system early on and set up a company, Forest Press, to sell it, although he often donated his system to needy libraries. He never intended to get rich with his system, said Dr. Wayne Wiegand, a professor of library and information studies at Florida State University and the author of a Dewey biography. Dewey's goal, instead, was to educate the masses. Dr. Wiegand said many smaller libraries, including prison libraries, use the system today without paying. In 1988, the Online Computer Library Center, a group created to help libraries share resources and costs, bought Forest Press and the Dewey Decimal System trademark. Periodically, the group, based in Dublin, Ohio, issues updates to the system and sells them to libraries at $375 for a full printed update. More than 200,000 libraries in 135 countries are licensed to use the system. Officials at the library center said they discovered the hotel on the Internet soon after it opened. After writing two letters to Mr. Kallan, in 2000 and 2001, but getting no response, the group sent him a certified letter in October, said Mr. Dreitler, the organization's lawyer. He said Mr. Kallan finally responded with a phone call, refusing to give the group credit or stop using the Dewey system in his marketing. "He basically said, `Go away,' " Mr. Dreitler said. Theresa Conley runs a small public library in Lyme, Conn., and stayed at the hotel last month, in Ancient Languages (400.006). After hearing about the lawsuit from another librarian, she dashed off an angry e-mail message to the library center, scolding the group. "It's a place that celebrates books and reading," she said in a telephone interview. "I think that's something that needs to be encouraged and commended, and not discouraged by this frivolous, silly lawsuit." http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/23/nyregion/23DEWE.html?ex=1065320376&ei=1&en=c2e4428a4996f467 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 14:08:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8NJ8JtS017567 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 14:08:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 916C61E601B0; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 14:07:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0574E1E601AD for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 14:07:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D246F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:03:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12083843 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:03:57 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8NJ3un20005 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:03:56 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-193.gwi.net [216.195.156.193]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h8NJ3rYr041030 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:03:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030923150056.00b43750@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:03:47 -0400 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: CA Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Send the clowns back in; the circus is on again. http://tinyurl.com/oe9q cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 14:13:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8NJDutS017602 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 14:13:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BFFE31E60104; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 14:13:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E621E60067 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 14:13:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009D24AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:09:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12084240 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:09:34 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8NJ9Yn20762 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:09:34 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8NJ9X023731 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 14:09:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 0240516B4; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 14:09:32 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 14:09:32 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: from the gay librarians list Message-ID: <20030923190932.GA18964@pobox.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > "We are not a library lending books, but rather we have > created a unique hotel experience for book lovers to > enjoy," Mr. Spitzer said. Oh, my ASS! > He never intended to get rich with his system, said Dr. > Wayne Wiegand, IF that's proven true, it's all right to donate it to the selflessly philanthropic hotel industry. > Theresa Conley runs a small public library in Lyme, Conn., > and stayed at the hotel last month, in Ancient Languages > (400.006). After hearing about the lawsuit from another > librarian, she dashed off an angry e-mail message to the > library center, scolding the group. > > "It's a place that celebrates books and reading," she said > in a telephone interview. Let's see the receipts. They are public information, aren't they? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 14:24:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8NJOdtS017785 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 14:24:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2FB1B1E601B0; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 14:24:15 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E4BC1E60104 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 14:24:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0017617A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:20:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12085146 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:20:14 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8NJKDn22751 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:20:13 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:20:14 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:19:55 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: CA Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h8NJOdtS017785 but it may get another act " The judges left open the possibility of post-election litigation after the votes are in and counted. " BrP >>> cwv@GWI.NET 09/23/03 03:03PM >>> Send the clowns back in; the circus is on again. http://tinyurl.com/oe9q cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 15:07:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8NK76tS018219 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:07:06 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3C6601E60104; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:06:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 902451E60102 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:06:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009D2702@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:02:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12089844 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:02:43 -0400 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8NK2hn32550 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:02:43 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:02:41 PDT Message-ID: <20030923200241.22734.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:02:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: CA To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030923150056.00b43750@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > Send the clowns back in; the circus is on again. > > http://tinyurl.com/oe9q > > cwv Land sakes! 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SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 15:17:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8NKH1tS018397 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:17:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1C88C1E601AD; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:16:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A16841E601A5 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:16:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009D2755@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:12:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12090686 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:12:39 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8NKCcn01865 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:12:38 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-193.gwi.net [216.195.156.193]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h8NKCZYr055211; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:12:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030923161045.00b1fc40@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:12:33 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: CA In-Reply-To: <20030923200241.22734.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030923150056.00b43750@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:02 PM 9/23/2003 -0700, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > > Send the clowns back in; the circus is on again. > > > > http://tinyurl.com/oe9q > > > > cwv > >Land sakes! What next? Oh, the fun may just be beginning. As Paul noted, the judges left open the possibility of all sorts of Florida-type litigation once the count begins. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 15:19:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8NKJftS018439 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:19:41 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0018B1E601AD; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:19:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6486E1E60104 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:19:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009D276D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:15:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12090895 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:15:18 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8NKFHn02318 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:15:17 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8NKFG021162 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:15:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id BB61016B4; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:15:16 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:15:16 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CA Message-ID: <20030923201516.GA2249@pobox.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030923150056.00b43750@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20030923161045.00b1fc40@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030923161045.00b1fc40@pop.gwi.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-23 | "clyde w. voigtlander" writes: > At 01:02 PM 9/23/2003 -0700, Lynne Weber wrote: > >--- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > >> Send the clowns back in; the circus is on again. > >> > >> http://tinyurl.com/oe9q > >> > >> cwv > > > >Land sakes! What next? > > Oh, the fun may just be beginning. As Paul noted, the judges left open the > possibility of all sorts of Florida-type litigation once the count begins. Will this fun be multiplied by 10 in 2004? Discuss From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 15:23:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8NKNqtS018516 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:23:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F0DE91E601B2; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:23:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84DE41E601AD for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:23:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001763C1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:19:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12091240 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:19:29 -0400 Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.17]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8NKJTn03055 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:19:29 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HLO000JVOH3WF@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:19:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.24] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:16:13 -0400 Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:16:13 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Doggy doors To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Message-id: <18790818ae78.18ae78187908@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I've been thinking about doggy doors and have pretty much decided against one -- the mud issue and the containment issue. Actually, I think I've decided against a fence in general -- at least for now. I was contemplating an invisible fence, but it seems a little cruel and not foolproof. And I think a fence would look ugly on my yard. I don't know. And I've only got a couple of weeks. We're going to have someone come in and walk him midday. And I'm committed to morning and evening walks and as many runs (on and off lead) as we can get in a week. I talked to the breeder last night. It's either the wrinkly guy here: http://marieascher.fotopic.net/photo.php?id=1141900 who's also the top fighter here http://marieascher.fotopic.net/photo.php?id=1146691 -- or the guy in the blue collar -- that I'm holding in this picture: http://marieascher.fotopic.net/photo.php?id=1146695. We're very excited. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 15:27:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8NKRltS018611 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:27:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B37C61E601AD; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:27:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62A561E601A5 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:27:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001763FF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:23:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12092133 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:23:22 -0400 Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.31]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8NKNLn04842 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:23:21 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HLO006X7O5FTT@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:12:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.24] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:09:36 -0400 Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:09:36 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: I'm a Winner!! To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <182cb41868fa.1868fa182cb4@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Theo Groothof wrote: > > Congratulation! If you wanted a cookbook that is.... I've been > cooking for so > > many years, that it wouldn't mean a thing to me. > > I love cookbooks. They're fun to look at -- in both senses of looking > at them -- seeing them sitting there on the shelves and opening > them to > read things inside. I'm a cookbook junkie. I can't stop. Theo, do you actually know how to cook *everything*? Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 15:36:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8NKagtS018715 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:36:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E30D91E601B0; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:36:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 895241E601AD for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:36:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D281A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:32:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12092947 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:32:20 -0400 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8NKWJn06447 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:32:19 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.bd.3703b03d (17526) for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:31:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:31:03 EDT Subject: Re: I'm a Winner!! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/23/2003 4:28:56 AM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >Wordslers have a standing invitation. You're in luck because I'm not too fond of sweets, or I'd have requested you'd mail me a batch of cookies.:) I'm not too fond of eating as a whole, which is hard on one who has to keep the weight up. Can anyone explain to me why that is, when half of the world seems to have a hard time keeping the weight off instead of on? Puzzled, Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 16:08:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8NL8atS018984 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:08:39 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 932A01E601B3; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:08:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62BCA1E601B2 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:08:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009D29E2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:04:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12096760 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:04:15 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f66.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8NL4En13531 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:04:14 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 14:04:08 -0700 Received: from 64.24.187.33 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:04:08 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.24.187.33] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Attn Karen Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:04:08 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Sep 2003 21:04:08.0943 (UTC) FILETIME=[3B2137F0:01C38216] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I hope Karen saw this story: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20030922/us_nm/life_usa_immigration_dc_4 >U.S. to Sharply Cut Number of High-Tech Visas >By Alan Elsner, National Correspondent >WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States is about to cut the number of >employment visas it offers to highly qualified foreign workers from 195,000 >to 65,000, immigration experts said on Monday. >Unless Congress acts by the end of this month -- and there is little sign >it will do so -- the change will automatically take effect on Oct. 1. >Employers, especially technology companies, argue the move will hurt them >and the economy. > >The change will affect the number of H1-B visas that can be issued each >fiscal year. The visas are mostly used to bring high-tech experts from >Asia, especially from the Indian sub-continent, to work in the United >States for up to three years. > >"The fact that Congress doesn't seem anxious to act reflects the political >climate, with a lack of jobs for Americans," said New York immigration >lawyer Cyrus Mehta. > >"The pressure to change the limit will build up again when the economy >picks up." > >The Senate Judiciary Committee (news - web sites) held a hearing on the >issue last week. Republican chairman Orrin Hatch of Utah noted that many >U.S. high-tech workers are unemployed and the committee needed to find ways >of helping them without hurting the country's ability to compete globally. > >Vermont Democratic Sen. Patrick Leahy said: "Given the weakness of our >current economy, and the rising unemployment we have experienced under >President Bush (news - web sites)'s stewardship, many who supported the >increase in 2000 now believe that 65,000 visas are sufficient." ... ] _________________________________________________________________ Share your photos without swamping your Inbox. Get Hotmail Extra Storage today! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 16:28:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8NLSutS019221 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:28:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2B8791E601B2; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:28:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED6D11E601AD for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:28:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D2A64@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:24:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12098208 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:24:34 -0400 Received: from web20509.mail.yahoo.com (web20509.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.144]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8NLOYn16439 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:24:34 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20509.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 14:24:32 PDT Message-ID: <20030923212432.80486.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 14:24:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: CA To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030923161045.00b1fc40@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Land sakes! What next? > > Oh, the fun may just be beginning. As Paul noted, > the judges left open the > possibility of all sorts of Florida-type litigation > once the count begins. I am rubbing my hands and licking my chops. I LOVE politics, it's such a misnomer. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 16:40:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8NLebtS019352 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:40:37 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CABC01E601B4; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:40:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CE7C1E601B3 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:40:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D2ABF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:36:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12099161 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:36:15 -0400 Received: from web20512.mail.yahoo.com (web20512.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8NLaEn18379 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:36:14 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20512.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 14:36:14 PDT Message-ID: <20030923213614.59998.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 14:36:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Doggy doors To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <18790818ae78.18ae78187908@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I talked to the breeder last night. It's either the > wrinkly guy here: > http://marieascher.fotopic.net/photo.php?id=1141900 > who's also the top fighter here > http://marieascher.fotopic.net/photo.php?id=1146691 > -- or the guy in the blue collar -- that I'm holding > in this picture: > http://marieascher.fotopic.net/photo.php?id=1146695. > We're very excited. Take them both. They are just a few shades darker than you hair. Very stylish. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 16:42:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8NLgKtS019359 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:42:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4F6961E601B2; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:41:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E1281E601AD for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:41:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D2ACF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:37:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12099326 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:37:58 -0400 Received: from imo-r01.mx.aol.com (imo-r01.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.97]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8NLbwn18652 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:37:58 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.16f.241c58cd (657) for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:37:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <16f.241c58cd.2ca21716@aol.com> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:37:26 EDT Subject: Re: I'm a Winner!! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/23/2003 2:23:44 PM, 14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET writes: >Theo, do you actually know how to cook *everything*? I'm sure I don't know how to cook "everything". But do I actually need to know? And then there's the "which method" do I want to cook in? French, American, German, Dutch? I guess I've lived in so many countries that I have invented my own cooking style! I've never heard anyone complain about the dishes I served, so I'm not too worried about it either. Food just isn't something that pleases me a lot, so I'd rather read something other than ways to cook. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 16:43:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8NLh8tS019365 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:43:08 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C076D1E601B2; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:42:42 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EEFD1E601B3 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:42:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001766B2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:38:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12099388 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:38:46 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8NLcjn18770 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:38:45 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-193.gwi.net [216.195.156.193]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h8NLcgYr071683; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:38:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030923173402.00b2d560@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:38:38 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: I'm a Winner!! In-Reply-To: <182cb41868fa.1868fa182cb4@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:09 PM 9/23/2003 -0400, Marie Ascher wrote: >I'm a cookbook junkie... I suspect that I am as well. I like/collect them less for the specific recipes than for the approaches to cooking. Except for some aspects of baking, recipes are only guidelines, anyhow. One of my latest acquisitions is The Good Fat Cookbook, by Fran McCullough. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 16:45:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8NLjvtS019409 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:45:57 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AF4031E601B2; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:45:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 799201E601AD for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:45:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009D2AF0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:41:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12099515 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:41:35 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f51.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.51]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8NLfYn19058 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:41:34 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 14:41:25 -0700 Received: from 64.24.188.95 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:41:25 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.24.188.95] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: second job Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:41:25 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Sep 2003 21:41:25.0776 (UTC) FILETIME=[7062D900:01C3821B] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/22/2003 9:26:05 PM, BrandyKitt@AOL.COM writes: >I'm thinking about getting a second job. Any ideas on how to go >about it? imo, networking is a good way of finding out about "opportunities". Contact friends, former cow orkers, suppliers etc. and let them know you're interested in another job. Another possibility is to use your Sears experience and look for positions in Cicuit City, Best Buy, Walmart - wherever they sell consumer electronics, appliances etc. You could go to stores most conveniently located for you and fill out an application. Good luck, Evelyn. _________________________________________________________________ Instant message in style with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 16:54:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8NLsWtS019494 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:54:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B7CD51E601B3; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:54:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ADC71E601B2 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:54:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001766F6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:50:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12100074 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:50:10 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8NLo9n20404 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:50:09 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8NLo8UZ027207 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 14:50:08 -0700 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8NLo7JC027181 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 14:50:08 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20030923144819.00a62ec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 14:48:51 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: CA In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU We're all going to dress as our favorite candidates for Halloween. Betty At 03:19 PM 9/23/2003 -0400, you wrote: >but it may get another act > >" The judges left open the possibility of post-election litigation after >the votes are in and counted. " > >BrP > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 17:06:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8NM6JtS019638 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:06:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8AB551E601B4; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:05:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B1C21E60077 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:05:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00176741@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:01:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12101011 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:01:53 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8NM1rn22400 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:01:53 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00176754@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:01:53 -0400 Message-Id: <200309232201.h8NM1rn22400@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:01:53 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: FW: You credit card has been charged for $234.65 (fwd) To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:15:35 -0500, Tushar Samant wrote: >02003-09-22 | Theo Groothof writes: >> In a message dated 9/22/2003 4:07:42 PM, aborkin@RAHUL.NET writes: >> >> >Enter your credit card number here: >> >> So how could they have charged you for anything if they don't have the >> number? Just wondering... > >They are scammers. They can hack into your computer and do anything >with the data. Theo, Tushar is being facetious. They scammers; they are trying to trick people like my drunk great-uncle's second wife (who married him because she respected him for believing that professional wrestling is "the real thing"), that they should type the credit card into an email so that they can steal and use the number everywhere. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 17:19:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8NMJ2tS019793 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:19:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A50F81E601B3; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:18:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 780E21E60077 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:18:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D2BB4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:14:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12101678 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:14:40 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8NMEdn24403 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:14:39 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8NMEd002921 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:14:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 4BD0616B4; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:14:39 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:14:39 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn Karen Message-ID: <20030923221439.GA22889@pobox.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-23 | Rashmi Murthy writes: > I hope Karen saw this story: I hope so ... She quoted it here twice. > http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20030922/us_nm/life_usa_immigration_dc_4 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 17:42:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8NMgbtS020081 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:42:37 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D5DE31E6007B; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:42:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A777C1E60077 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:42:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D2C34@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:38:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12102951 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:38:15 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8NMcEn27302 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:38:14 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.31]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030923223808.ONCZ24914.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:38:08 -0400 Message-ID: <3F70CB51.FBF563D2@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:38:09 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Doggy doors References: <20030923213614.59998.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Take them both. Yes! Dogs get less lonesome when they have companions. Or so people say. I didn't really notice that Spencer was any happier with Buddy than without him. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 17:43:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8NMhttS020095 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:43:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0C6A81E601B3; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:43:29 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D402B1E6007B for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:43:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D2C3C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:39:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12103020 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:39:32 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8NMdWn27408 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:39:32 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.31]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030923223926.ONPS24914.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:39:26 -0400 Message-ID: <3F70CB9E.8D94156E@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:39:26 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CA References: <5.1.1.5.2.20030923144819.00a62ec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > > We're all going to dress as our favorite candidates for Halloween. Am I mutant for finding Arnold S. highly unattractive? I'm talking about his physical appearance now, not his politics. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 17:56:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8NMuUtS020253 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:56:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CE58F1E601B8; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:56:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A28EC1E60104 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:56:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00176864@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:52:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12103546 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:52:00 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8NMpxn28596 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:52:00 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8NMpv029600 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:51:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 57AEC16B4; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:51:57 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:51:57 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: One-stop *shudder* shop Message-ID: <20030923225157.GA26977@pobox.com> References: <20030923053726.GB22166@pobox.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20030922231002.04278078@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030922231002.04278078@mail.istori.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-22 | Peter Kaminski writes: > >Every disgusting thing about "the culture" packed in a single story: > > It could be worse. The economic outlook could suck too: Nice segue ... > > > (Neocons. They can hack into your White House and do anything with the > country.) *Snort* have a little faith in the dollar, kid ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 17:58:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8NMw7tS020260 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:58:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 896841E601B8; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:57:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A69D1E60104 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:57:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D2C87@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:53:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12103595 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:53:44 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8NMrin28721 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:53:44 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8NMrSW1004966 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:53:28 -0700 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8NMrRWq004945 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:53:27 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20030923155119.00a4bec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:52:11 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: CA In-Reply-To: <3F70CB9E.8D94156E@maynor.net> References: <5.1.1.5.2.20030923144819.00a62ec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:39 PM 9/23/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Betty Clark wrote: > > > > We're all going to dress as our favorite candidate for Halloween. > >Am I mutant for finding Arnold S. highly unattractive? I'm talking >about his physical appearance now, not his politics. They are both pretty gross. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 18:12:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8NNCRtS020444 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:12:30 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4C4231E601BA; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:11:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F6DC1E601B8 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:11:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D2CC1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 19:08:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12104273 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 19:08:01 -0400 Received: from imo-m01.mx.aol.com (imo-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.4]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8NN81n30076 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 19:08:01 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.6b.1974960b (4426) for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 19:07:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <6b.1974960b.2ca22c40@aol.com> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 19:07:44 EDT Subject: Re: FW: You credit card has been charged for $234.65 (fwd) To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/23/2003 4:02:06 PM, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: >Theo, Tushar is being facetious. They scammers; they are trying to > trick people like my drunk great-uncle's second wife (who married him > because she respected him for believing that professional wrestling is > "the real thing") -- Thanks for "enlightening me!" For a moment I was starting to think that I was *missing stuff* Please remember that I'm just an ignurrent furrener.;-} Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 19:05:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8O05DtS021164 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 19:05:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EE0B21E601B6; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 19:04:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 879EB1E600FD for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 19:04:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0017696E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:00:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12106506 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:00:49 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8O00nn02633 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:00:49 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[66.31.143.74]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003092400004301500a6bp5e> (Authid: adamh1); Wed, 24 Sep 2003 00:00:43 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Vanilla folder Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:00:41 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From me too. When is he/she due? > Theo March. I'll pass along your good wishes. --Adam adamh1@comcast.net From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 20:14:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8O1EZtS022257 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:14:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 463F91E601BF; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:14:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 155B71E601BE for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:14:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D2ED1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:10:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12109087 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:10:08 -0400 Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.46]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8O1A7n08451 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:10:07 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HLP00BH90SOT3@mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:46:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.36] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:42:44 -0400 Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:42:44 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Doggy doors To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <19cab519c6fc.19c6fc19cab5@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Lynne Weber wrote: > > Take them both. > > Yes! Dogs get less lonesome when they have companions. But I'd probably get pretty lonesome if my husband left me for a house less overrun with dogs. One at a time. For now. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 20:26:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8O1QdtS022425 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:26:39 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CE24D1E601C3; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:26:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DA7A1E601C1 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:26:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D2F2E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:22:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12109802 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:22:15 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8O1MFn09591 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:22:15 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.31]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030924012209.BRLU10992.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:22:09 -0400 Message-ID: <3F70F1C2.FABB37E4@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:22:10 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: BP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A friend insisted that I borrow his tape of the season premier of "Boston Public" (which he had taped because he had to be out when it was on), assuring me that it was like its old self. I just watched it, and it was. I found myself laughing out loud at various points and am also fascinated by a student rape victim who doesn't want to prosecute because she's really a male dressed as a female. Lipshit is taking Viagara because he wants to ward off alzheimers. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 20:27:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8O1RetS022446 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:27:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CD3151E601C1; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:27:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C56B1E60034 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:27:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D2F2F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:23:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12109813 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:23:17 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8O1NGn09625 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:23:16 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.31]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030924012309.BSOX10992.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:23:09 -0400 Message-ID: <3F70F1FB.D630CF96@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:23:07 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: BP References: <3F70F1C2.FABB37E4@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Are forked tongues really in among hs students these days? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 20:27:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8O1RptS022453 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:27:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BFD8C1E6012D; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:27:24 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 928BC1E60034 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:27:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D2F30@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:23:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12109817 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:23:28 -0400 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8O1NRn09631 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:23:27 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:23:27 PDT Message-ID: <20030924012327.41941.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:23:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: I'm a Winner!! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <16f.241c58cd.2ca21716@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I've never heard anyone complain about the dishes I > served, so I'm not too > worried about it either. Food just isn't something > that pleases me a lot, so I'd > rather read something other than ways to cook. > Theo Oooh, Theo! Food pleases me immensely. Cookbooks are treasure troves. Food is one of the lasting joys of life. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 20:33:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8O1XStS022695 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:33:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DC9221E60062; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:33:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB2201E60034 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:33:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D2F2C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:29:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12109929 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:29:05 -0400 Received: from web20513.mail.yahoo.com (web20513.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8O1T4n09950 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:29:04 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20513.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:29:04 PDT Message-ID: <20030924012904.81281.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:29:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: I'm a Winner!! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030923173402.00b2d560@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I suspect that I am as well. I like/collect them > less for the specific > recipes than for the approaches to cooking. Except > for some aspects of > baking, recipes are only guidelines, anyhow. One > of my latest > acquisitions is The Good Fat Cookbook, by Fran > McCullough. I have a collection that goes back seventy years to the Purefoy Hotel in Talladega, AL. It's as interesting for its manner and language as for its recipes. And those freebies advertised on the sides of containers, specific to that food/food group - I get them all - just in case. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 20:37:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8O1bntS022746 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:37:50 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5A91D1E60082; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:37:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD5C51E60078 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:37:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D2F4E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:33:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12110108 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:33:24 -0400 Received: from web20513.mail.yahoo.com (web20513.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8O1XOn10336 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:33:24 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20513.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:33:23 PDT Message-ID: <20030924013323.82313.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:33:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: CA To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F70CB9E.8D94156E@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Am I mutant for finding Arnold S. highly > unattractive? I'm talking > about his physical appearance now, not his politics. I find him singularly unattractive. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 20:40:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8O1estS022784 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:40:54 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C096C1E60082; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:40:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 533141E60078 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:40:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009D2F8B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:36:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12110513 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:36:29 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8O1aSn10845 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:36:28 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.31]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030924013622.CDNC10992.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:36:22 -0400 Message-ID: <3F70F517.E5DBA031@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:36:23 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CA References: <20030924013323.82313.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > > Am I mutant for finding Arnold S. highly > > unattractive? I'm talking > > about his physical appearance now, not his politics. > > I find him singularly unattractive. Isn't he supposedly thought to be sexy by some people? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 20:41:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8O1f8tS022791 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:41:08 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B525F1E6008B; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:40:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8093E1E60082 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:40:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D2F6D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:36:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12110517 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:36:45 -0400 Received: from web20503.mail.yahoo.com (web20503.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.138]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8O1ain10854 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:36:44 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:36:43 PDT Message-ID: <20030924013643.13648.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:36:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: CA To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20030923155119.00a4bec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Betty Clark wrote: > > > > > > We're all going to dress as our favorite > candidate for Halloween. > > BB, who will you be, and who will Larry be? It would be interesting if you both chose the same candidate. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 20:44:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8O1iFtS022814 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:44:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 20DE21E6007D; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:43:48 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC19D1E60070 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:43:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D2F80@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:39:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12110593 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:39:50 -0400 Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com (web20502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8O1don11159 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:39:50 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:39:49 PDT Message-ID: <20030924013949.46607.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:39:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Doggy doors To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <19cab519c6fc.19c6fc19cab5@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > But I'd probably get pretty lonesome if my husband > left me for a house less overrun with dogs. One at a > time. For now. > > Marie Wishful thinking on my part. We Have found that having more than one dog lessens the pain of losing one, but that is hardly a reason. Just like to see them go to loving homes. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 20:48:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8O1mctS022881 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:48:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DEDC11E6008B; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:48:10 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFED71E60082 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:48:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D2F8A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:44:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12110718 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:44:12 -0400 Received: from web20513.mail.yahoo.com (web20513.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8O1iCn11470 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:44:12 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20513.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:44:11 PDT Message-ID: <20030924014411.85257.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:44:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: CA To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F70F517.E5DBA031@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Isn't he supposedly thought to be sexy by some > people? > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Yes, I believe so, but I just don't see it. A good example of a young muscle man (unattractive in itself) gone to pot, with a strange head and even stranger teeth. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 20:51:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8O1potS022904 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:51:50 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 017381E600DE; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:51:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A9B1E60097 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:51:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009D2FA9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:47:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12110848 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:47:26 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8O1lPn11777 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:47:25 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8O1lOW1021486 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:47:24 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8O1lNWq021470 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:47:24 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20030923184818.00b35830@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:48:30 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Subject: Re: Doggy doors In-Reply-To: <19cab519c6fc.19c6fc19cab5@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:42 PM 9/23/2003 -0400, you wrote: > > Lynne Weber wrote: > > > Take them both. > > > > Yes! Dogs get less lonesome when they have companions. > >But I'd probably get pretty lonesome if my husband left me for a house >less overrun with dogs. One at a time. For now. > >Marie One is good. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 20:53:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8O1r3tS022911 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:53:03 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4D2361E60097; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:52:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BB671E60082 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:52:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D2F9D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:48:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12110885 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:48:39 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8O1mdn11889 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:48:39 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8O1mMUZ023719 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:48:22 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8O1mLJC023689; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:48:21 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20030923184903.00b40c50@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:49:28 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: BP In-Reply-To: <3F70F1C2.FABB37E4@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:22 PM 9/23/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >A friend insisted that I borrow his tape of the season premier of >"Boston Public" (which he had taped because he had to be out when it was >on), assuring me that it was like its old self. I just watched it, and >it was. I found myself laughing out loud at various points and am also >fascinated by a student rape victim who doesn't want to prosecute >because she's really a male dressed as a female. Lipshit is taking >Viagara because he wants to ward off alzheimers. Oh, no! I missed it. I'm sure they will repeat though. Save the tape just in case. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 20:53:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8O1rltS022921 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:53:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E5DCB1E600DE; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:53:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B88EA1E60082 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:53:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009D2FB1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:49:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12110916 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:49:22 -0400 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8O1nIn11947 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:49:18 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.ca.222fd9e1 (4539) for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:49:01 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:49:00 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Doggy doors To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/23/2003 8:47:31 PM Central Daylight Time, bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU writes: << One is good. >> Yes, definitely. I can't imagine two Daisys. Although, if we hadn't adopted her, I was going to try to get a Siamese kitten. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com I'm fuzzy on the whole good-bad thing. Peter Venkman From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 20:55:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8O1tRtS022928 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:55:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E46161E60097; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:54:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B13FD1E60082 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:54:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D2FB0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:51:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12111043 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:51:03 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8O1p2n12176 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:51:02 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8O1p1W1025165 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:51:01 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8O1oxWq025129; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:51:00 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20030923185047.00b449a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:52:06 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: CA In-Reply-To: <20030924013643.13648.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.1.1.5.2.20030923155119.00a4bec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:36 PM 9/23/2003 -0700, Lynne Weber wrote: > > >Betty Clark wrote: > > > > > > > > We're all going to dress as our favorite > > candidate for Halloween. > > > >BB, who will you be, and who will Larry be? It would >be interesting if you both chose the same candidate. Well, I have the t-shirt already! Maybe Larry could shave the top his head. He is not home yet. We left him fishing the Madison River. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 21:04:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8O240tS023074 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:04:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BD1C81E600DE; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:03:33 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9036E1E60082 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:03:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00176B71@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:59:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12111418 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:59:36 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8O1xan13096 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:59:36 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.31]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030924015930.YSYC26082.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:59:30 -0400 Message-ID: <3F70FA83.199B22B6@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:59:31 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CA References: <20030924014411.85257.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > > Isn't he supposedly thought to be sexy by some > > people? > > Yes, I believe so, but I just don't see it. A good > example of a young muscle man (unattractive in itself) > gone to pot, with a strange head and even stranger > teeth. We see on this matter. I've always found the muscle-man type highly unattractive, even if not gone to pot. I saw a picture of him in a magazine from what was presumably his , and he looked grotesque to me. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 21:26:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8O2QWtS023392 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:26:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C80101E60127; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:26:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 895301E600EF for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:26:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009D3064@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:22:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12112659 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:22:07 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8O2M7n16102 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:22:07 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.31]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030924022201.LAYT1874.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:22:01 -0400 Message-ID: <3F70FFCA.8207D3D1@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:22:02 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: BP References: <4.2.2.20030923184903.00b40c50@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > Oh, no! I missed it. I'm sure they will repeat though. Save the tape > just in case. I'm taking the tape back to lunch tomorrow, from whence it came, to pass along to the next person in our lunch group who is going to watch it. You won't have any trouble getting into the series, even after missing this one, though. I quit watching it a year or so ago but found that I remembered the people well. There was a brief blurb at the beginning about last season, and I noticed some interesting things -- like Guber has a mother, who was apparently visiting and who thought he should be dating Marilyn Suter(?), but Guber said she was out of his league. (He did ask her for a date tonight -- I mean on this tape I watched today, but she said she was "seeing somebody." Then Guber saw her through his office window kissing Stephen in the parking lot. Poor Guber.) If you don't want a summary of tonight's (which was last Friday night's actually), stop reading now. Here's a very sketchy summary: Guber is on a tear and is taking various actions without discussing them with Stephen. Parents are complaining that the school nurse is dispensing morning-after pills. Stephen didn't even know. After the complaints started pouring in, Guber arranged to do a cable tv talk about the pills and why they were good and how they weren't like the R2 or whatever the abortion pills are. He was really rather good on tv, as he had been in court a couple of hours earlier. He was in court with a stuttering judge who was ruling on the expulsion of a stuttering student because Guber had seen non-prescribed stuttering medicine in the student's locker, when he was standing there apologizing for his having called in this group of four or five students who have a band to tell them that it was horrendously offensive that they called themselves The [Something] Stutterers -- or maybe it was The Stuttering [Somethings]. Turned out that they were all stutterers. Meanwhile Guber was taking a survey of forked tongues among the students. His plan was to record the names of those with forked tongues, to be grandfathered in, and that anybody having a tongue forked after that would not be allowed in school. Stephen made a funny comment about "grandfathering tongues." I think maybe that plan was dropped. Ronnie, the former lawyer, was leaving the building one night and saw a rape in progress. She had the boy arrested even though both the boy and girl claimed there was no rape in progress -- that it was consentual. Ronnie stuck with it, though, because she said it was wrong for a witness not to take action even if the victim didn't want to. She told that to the parents of the girl (supposed girl), who had come to beg her to drop it, saying that it would hurt their daughter and ruin her senior year. Ronnie persisted until the rape victim came to her and told her that she was anatomically male and that that would come out in a rape trial and would ruin her life -- that she was a girl trapped in a boy's body. This was interesting since the alleged rapist had said that he didn't "rape girls." He said that twice -- including "girls." He has a police record, but because he's a minor, Ronnie couldn't see what it was about. His father is a lawyer. The boy in the girl's body has been accepted, early admission, to Smith. And then there was Lipshit, who was first working crossword puzzles because he had heard that mental activity was good for warding off alzheimers. But then he decided to get interested in sex since young men were said to "think with their penises." He was stalking a new young faculty member (who was hired to teach physics but insists on doing it in Spanish so that her students will learn Spanish and who got in trouble the second day for suggesting that the students' lives don't have meaning and telling about her mother's suicide). When she mentioned to Stephen that an old main was following her around saying she tickled his loins, Stephen said to ignore Lipshits. Near the end Lipshits showed Stephen and Guber two bottles of Viagra he had been left by somebody who recently died. Guber mentioned that that was violation of school policy -- zero tolerance to drugs. I know I'm leaving out lots. Oh -- Marla and Marilyn and the blond man with the North Boston accent -- what's his name? -- went to court in support of the stuttering student Guber had kicked out. They thought he was an outstanding, wonderful student. Marilyn called Guber a Nazi when she first heard about the expulsion. But then they made up, and she told him she thought he was lonely. The stutterer will be back in two weeks. The judge ruled against him after Guber's good speech, but Stephen made it just a two-week suspension instead of full expulsion. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 21:28:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8O2SXtS023400 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:28:33 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CB96C1E600DE; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:28:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A6231E60097 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:28:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00176C63@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:24:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12112713 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:24:02 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8O2O2n16280 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:24:02 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.23) id 1A1zKS-0007mw-M4 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:24:33 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030923192302.03a69998@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 19:26:23 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: BP In-Reply-To: <3F70F1FB.D630CF96@maynor.net> References: <3F70F1C2.FABB37E4@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, >Are forked tongues really in among hs students these days? The FAQ estimates there are around 1,500 - 2,000 Westerners who've had the procedure done. Probably most of those are not high-schoolers, but perhaps some are. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 21:33:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8O2XutS023490 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:33:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BE4621E600DE; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:33:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 921451E60083 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:33:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D305D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:29:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12112897 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:29:32 -0400 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8O2TVn16627 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:29:31 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 19:29:31 PDT Message-ID: <20030924022931.17931.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 19:29:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: BP To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030923192302.03a69998@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > The FAQ > estimates there are around > 1,500 - 2,000 Westerners who've had the procedure > done. Probably most of > those are not high-schoolers, but perhaps some are. > > Pete Now I know why we have freedom of speech - so our offspring can speak with forked tongues. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 21:44:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8O2iLtS023579 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:44:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7E7221E6012B; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:43:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D00B1E60128 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:43:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00176C9A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:39:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12113282 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:39:57 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8O2dvn17448 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:39:57 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8O2dtUZ018293 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 19:39:55 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8O2dsJC018251; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 19:39:55 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20030923193952.00a1bd80@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 19:41:01 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: dead frog In-Reply-To: References: <5b.3e976c72.2c9cfbbc@aol.com> <5b.3e976c72.2c9cfbbc@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:07 PM 9/20/2003 -0500, poor old johnny ray wrote: >Evelyn Duncan: > >There was a dead frog in the volleyball court, and, > >naturally, Daisy found it and tried to eat it. > >...and rightfully so. Frogs are good eating. > >Well, maybe not decomposing court-found frogs. > >Come down here and we'll go Rayne, La, the >Frog Capital of the World. > >Dat's livin', huh. When Larry's dog ate a frog, he foamed at the mouth. I thought about you this week end, Richard. My niece had craw dads at her rehearsal barbecue. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 21:55:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8O2tttS023695 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:55:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 20FF71E60128; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:55:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E459D1E60088 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:55:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D30F3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:51:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12113356 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:51:30 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8O2fTn17595 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:41:29 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8O2fTQw006915 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:41:29 -0400 Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:41:29 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: BP In-Reply-To: <3F70F1FB.D630CF96@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3F70F1C2.FABB37E4@maynor.net> <3F70F1FB.D630CF96@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: hits=-2 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Are forked tongues really in among hs students these days? So I've read. I have not one yet. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 22:04:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8O34VtS023821 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:04:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DD8141E6012B; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:04:03 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9B791E60088 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:04:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00176D31@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 23:00:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12114011 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 23:00:06 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8O2o2n18585 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:50:02 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8O2o2Qw008100 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:50:02 -0400 Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:50:02 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: packed - mostly! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: hits=0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I have a few things to do in the morning - pack up my computer stuff, clear the kitchen table, etc - I'll make it, I think. Whew! It toook 4 of us this evening - I enlisted Donna as well as the professional packers I hired. Tomorrow night I get to sleep in my new condo! (Now where is that coffee pot I packed?) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 22:04:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8O34ZtS023825 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:04:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 92C631E60128; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:04:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6667C1E60088 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:04:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00176D4A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 23:00:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12115012 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 23:00:09 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8O309n19664 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 23:00:09 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8O308021035 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:00:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 684B116B4; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:00:08 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:00:08 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: FW: You credit card has been charged for $234.65 (fwd) Message-ID: <20030924030008.GA19954@pobox.com> References: <6b.1974960b.2ca22c40@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6b.1974960b.2ca22c40@aol.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-23 | Theo Groothof writes: > In a message dated 9/23/2003 4:02:06 PM, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: > > >Theo, Tushar is being facetious. They scammers; they are trying to > > trick people like my drunk great-uncle's second wife (who married him > > because she respected him for believing that professional wrestling is > > "the real thing") > -- > Thanks for "enlightening me!" For a moment I was starting to think that I was > *missing stuff* Please remember that I'm just an ignurrent furrener.;-} > Theo So am I From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 22:06:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8O366tS023842 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:06:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 513301E60128; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:05:39 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 250041E60088 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:05:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009D31CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 23:01:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12115746 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 23:01:42 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8O31gn20226 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 23:01:42 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8O31f022050 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:01:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id C9C7316B4; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:01:41 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:01:41 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm a Winner!! Message-ID: <20030924030141.GB19954@pobox.com> References: <16f.241c58cd.2ca21716@aol.com> <20030924012327.41941.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030924012327.41941.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-23 | Lynne Weber writes: > Oooh, Theo! Food pleases me immensely. Cookbooks are > treasure troves. Food is one of the lasting joys of life. Huh! Food is close to the least lasting on the "joys" list ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 22:12:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8O3CvtS023921 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:12:57 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6655E1E60128; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:12:29 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 344071E60088 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:12:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00176E75@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 23:08:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12117800 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 23:08:32 -0400 Received: from web20506.mail.yahoo.com (web20506.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8O38Vn21406 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 23:08:31 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:08:30 PDT Message-ID: <20030924030830.37646.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:08:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: packed - mostly! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > I have a few things to do in the morning - pack up > my computer stuff, > clear the kitchen table, etc - I'll make it, I > think. Whew! It toook 4 of > us this evening - I enlisted Donna as well as the > professional packers I > hired. Did you pay Donna, or did you shanghai her? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 22:15:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8O3FDtS023964 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:15:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B699A1E6012B; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:14:45 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86A581E60128 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:14:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D3332@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 23:10:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12118522 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 23:10:48 -0400 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8O3Amn21810 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 23:10:48 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:10:47 PDT Message-ID: <20030924031047.18029.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:10:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: FW: You credit card has been charged for $234.65 (fwd) To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20030924030008.GA19954@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Please remember that I'm just an > ignurrent furrener.;-} > > Theo > > So am I Come, now. You're splitting tongues. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 22:16:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8O3GEtS023980 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:16:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 112EC1E6012B; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:15:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4FE31E60128 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:15:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009D3359@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 23:11:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12118702 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 23:11:50 -0400 Received: from web20506.mail.yahoo.com (web20506.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8O3Bon21931 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 23:11:50 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:11:49 PDT Message-ID: <20030924031149.39088.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:11:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: I'm a Winner!! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20030924030141.GB19954@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Food is one of the lasting joys > of life. > > Huh! Food is close to the least lasting on the > "joys" list ... Sez you. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 22:20:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8O3KZtS024038 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:20:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3FCAE1E6012F; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:20:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 129F41E6012D for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:20:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D3355@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 23:16:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12118934 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 23:16:11 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8O3GBn22234 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 23:16:11 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8O3GA004298 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:16:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 9C3D516B4; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:16:10 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:16:10 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm a Winner!! Message-ID: <20030924031610.GB20354@pobox.com> References: <20030924030141.GB19954@pobox.com> <20030924031149.39088.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030924031149.39088.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-23 | Lynne Weber writes: > Food is one of the lasting joys > > of life. > > > > Huh! Food is close to the least lasting on the > > "joys" list ... > > Sez you. Maybe a little more lasting with a fridge, but by how much? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 23 22:27:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8O3RetS024080 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:27:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 692241E6012D; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:27:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 386DD1E6012B for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:27:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D337F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 23:23:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12118831 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 23:23:15 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8O3DFn22083 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 23:13:15 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8O3DDQw011109 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 23:13:15 -0400 Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 23:13:13 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: packed - mostly! In-Reply-To: <20030924030830.37646.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20030924030830.37646.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: hits=-2 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >Did you pay Donna, or did you shanghai her? Yes! She has hourly rates for such work - but I hire her by the job, not by the hour, and pay her much better than her hourly rates. She coordinated the moving of my art, and she is handling the sale of my w/d and refrigerator and a few other items, and she worked tonight and she will help with final items and clean-up on Sat. I will pay her $200-$300, depending upon how long we spend on Sat., how much I realize on the sale of items, etc. (She will also bring me a large coffee when she arrives about 10 a.m. tomorow,) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 00:44:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8O5iktS026093 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 00:44:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 445811E60075; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 00:44:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 178031E6003A for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 00:44:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D37A8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 1:40:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12126281 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 01:40:21 -0400 Received: from imo-r01.mx.aol.com (imo-r01.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.97]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8O5eLn03322 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 01:40:21 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.72.320fe383 (4246) for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 01:40:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <72.320fe383.2ca2883b@aol.com> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 01:40:11 EDT Subject: Re: I'm a Winner!! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/23/2003 7:23:35 PM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: >Oooh, Theo! Food pleases me immensely. Cookbooks are >treasure troves. Food is one of the lasting joys of life. > I've known people like you,but food is not exactly at the top of my pleasure list, Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 00:48:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8O5mutS026167 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 00:48:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0054A1E60059; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 00:48:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7B451E6003A for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 00:48:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D37AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 1:44:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12126327 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 01:44:31 -0400 Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com (imo-r06.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.102]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8O5iVn03915 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 01:44:31 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.7d.3e3cd7cd (4246) for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 01:44:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <7d.3e3cd7cd.2ca28933@aol.com> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 01:44:19 EDT Subject: Re: I'm a Winner!! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/23/2003 9:16:19 PM, scribble@POBOX.COM writes: >Maybe a little more lasting with a fridge, but by how much? > What does a fridge have to do with how much joy eating brings? Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 00:52:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8O5qatS026214 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 00:52:36 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EE7D41E60059; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 00:52:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD65B1E6003A for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 00:52:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D37B5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 1:48:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12126407 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 01:48:11 -0400 Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8O5mBn04408 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 01:48:11 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.6b.19789f45 (4246) for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 01:48:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <6b.19789f45.2ca28a11@aol.com> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 01:48:01 EDT Subject: Re: FW: You credit card has been charged for $234.65 (fwd) To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/23/2003 9:10:56 PM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: >Come, now. You're splitting tongues. Shhhhhh You weren't supposed to notice it ;-} Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 00:56:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8O5uwtS026260 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 00:56:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A15211E6007F; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 00:56:29 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 726061E6007E for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 00:56:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0017722B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 1:52:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12126491 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 01:52:32 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8O5qWn04714 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 01:52:32 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8O5qV027965 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 00:52:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 8DF3A16B4; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 00:52:31 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 00:52:31 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm a Winner!! Message-ID: <20030924055231.GA25735@pobox.com> References: <7d.3e3cd7cd.2ca28933@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7d.3e3cd7cd.2ca28933@aol.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-24 | Theo Groothof writes: > In a message dated 9/23/2003 9:16:19 PM, scribble@POBOX.COM writes: > > >Maybe a little more lasting with a fridge, but by how much? > > What does a fridge have to do with how much joy eating brings? I derive slightly greater joy in eating unspoiled food over spoiled. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 01:45:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8O6jXtS026873 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 01:45:33 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 65D281E6007E; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 01:44:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 376D01E60075 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 01:44:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D38CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 2:40:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12128939 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 02:40:49 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8O6emn11282 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 02:40:48 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h8O6elRP026013 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 08:40:47 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h8O6ekW1026011 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 08:40:46 +0200 Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 08:40:45 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: FW: You credit card has been charged for $234.65 (fwd) Message-ID: <20030924064045.GA25994@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <6b.1974960b.2ca22c40@aol.com> <20030924030008.GA19954@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030924030008.GA19954@pobox.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = > Thanks for "enlightening me!" For a moment I was starting to think that I was = > *missing stuff* Please remember that I'm just an ignurrent furrener.;-} = > Theo = = So am I So am I From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 05:53:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8OArttS029721 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 05:53:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CF7141E6008C; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 05:53:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FECB1E6004B for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 05:53:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D3B53@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 6:49:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12134626 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 06:49:21 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8OAnLn05083 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 06:49:21 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.159.109]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030924104915.DDAM20055.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 06:49:15 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7176AB.F1836B9E@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 05:49:15 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: packed - mostly! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > I have a few things to do in the morning - pack up my computer stuff, I was amazed last week to get e-mail (in a long list of recipients) from somebody who is moving from Starkville to Indiana October 1 saying that she was about to pack up the computer, to be unpacked in October in Bloomington. I can't imagine living that way. You have it right -- the computer should be last packed and first unpacked. > Tomorrow night I get to sleep in my new condo! (Now where is that coffee > pot I packed?) Your talk is making me want to move again! Moving is fun. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 06:01:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8OB1DtS029893 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 06:01:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 217331E6008A; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 06:00:43 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E923C1E6004B for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 06:00:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00177539@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 6:56:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12134740 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 06:56:45 -0400 Received: from fe3.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8OAujn05461 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 06:56:45 -0400 Received: from [68.160.35.243] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO bc.edu) by fe3.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.1) with ESMTP id 32034987 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 06:56:45 -0400 Message-ID: <3F71786A.4040002@bc.edu> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 06:56:42 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Fridge (was Re: I'm a Winner!!) References: <7d.3e3cd7cd.2ca28933@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <7d.3e3cd7cd.2ca28933@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A fridge has little to do with the joy of eating. It has to do with egg slots. We just purchased a new one which will arrive on Saturday. It does have a removable egg slot tray. I foolishly neglected to count the slots. Will report on Saturday. Rita L. Theo Groothof wrote: >In a message dated 9/23/2003 9:16:19 PM, scribble@POBOX.COM writes > > >>Maybe a little more lasting with a fridge, but by how much? >> >> >> >What does a fridge have to do with how much joy eating brings? >Theo > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 06:10:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8OBALtS030003 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 06:10:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3D5601E6008F; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 06:09:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1055F1E6008E for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 06:09:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00177568@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 7:05:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12134734 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 07:05:53 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8OAtrn05423 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 06:55:53 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8OAtqQw032263 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 06:55:52 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 06:55:52 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: packed - mostly! In-Reply-To: <3F7176AB.F1836B9E@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3F7176AB.F1836B9E@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: hits=-2 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Your talk is making me want to move again! Moving is fun. NOT! If my packers had not shown up, I might have fled to Brazil this morning. Among other things, the Testermans' true colors began showing last night - it's true what that say - as I always suspected - if you are a source of $$, you are a friend - otherwise, no. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 06:19:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8OBJTtS030123 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 06:19:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 651CF1E6008A; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 06:18:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 358741E6004B for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 06:18:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D3B9E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 7:15:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12134955 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 07:15:01 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8OB51n24572 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 07:05:01 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8OB4xQw000651 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 07:05:00 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 07:04:59 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fridge (was Re: I'm a Winner!!) In-Reply-To: <3F71786A.4040002@bc.edu> Message-ID: References: <7d.3e3cd7cd.2ca28933@aol.com> <3F71786A.4040002@bc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: hits=-2 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Rita Leonard wrote: >to do with egg slots. We just purchased a new one which will arrive on >Saturday. It does have a removable egg slot tray. I foolishly >neglected to count the slots. Will report on Saturday. Brand? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 06:36:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8OBamtS030307 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 06:36:48 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 757121E6008A; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 06:36:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 459841E6004B for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 06:36:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D3BD0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 7:32:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12135841 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 07:32:20 -0400 Received: from fe2.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8OBWKn27608 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 07:32:20 -0400 Received: from [151.199.26.25] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO bc.edu) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.1) with ESMTP id 30851367 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 07:32:19 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7180BC.8090502@bc.edu> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 07:32:12 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fridge (was Re: I'm a Winner!!) References: <7d.3e3cd7cd.2ca28933@aol.com> <3F71786A.4040002@bc.edu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU :-) I was expecting this question to have come from Evelyn. She will know all about this because it was purchased at the Sears appliance outlet near here (scratch and dent). It is a Maytag, model MSD2734GE. Side by side, 27 cu. ft. total. If I'm not mistaken (we looked at a LOT of them) that is divided as 10.5 of usable freezer space and 15.5 of refrigerator space. Ice and water through the freezer door (which you almost can't buy a side by side without anymore) takes up the rest of the total space. I'm quite excited. This was slated to be a "next year" purchase but the current one has taken to screaming at us with alarming regularity. I hope it lasts until Saturday. Rita L. Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Rita Leonard wrote: > > > >>to do with egg slots. We just purchased a new one which will arrive on >>Saturday. It does have a removable egg slot tray. I foolishly >>neglected to count the slots. Will report on Saturday. >> >> > >Brand? > >Bethany > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 09:35:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8OEZItS032091 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 09:35:18 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 35ED51E6008A; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 09:34:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 087831E60055 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 09:34:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00177B5A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:30:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12149584 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:30:48 -0400 Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8OEUmn26734 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:30:48 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HLQ00EE42WZKW@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:29:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.36] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:25:48 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:25:48 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: I'm a Winner!! To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <1b9fb61b98b7.1b98b71b9fb6@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" > >I'm a cookbook junkie... > > I suspect that I am as well. I like/collect them less for the > specificrecipes than for the approaches to cooking. Except for > some aspects of > baking, recipes are only guidelines, anyhow. One of my latest > acquisitions is The Good Fat Cookbook, by Fran McCullough. My most recent batch of cookbooks are also by Fran McCullough -- I bought all of the past editions of America's Best Recipes (back to 1999). These books are collections of the best identified recipes for the year (or two years lately) taken from books, magazines, newspapers, package labels and the internet. I've found quite a few gems, the most recent thing I made was a Brazilian Fish Stew which was easy and fantastic (actually Bruce didn't care for it, but I didn't expect him to). Anyway, I love these books and will continue to get each edition. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 09:57:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8OEvItS032297 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 09:57:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B9D181E60055; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 09:56:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B6101E6004B for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 09:56:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009D4293@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:52:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12151920 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:52:41 -0400 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8OEqen31559 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:52:40 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 07:52:40 PDT Message-ID: <20030924145240.88738.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 07:52:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: I'm a Winner!! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1b9fb61b98b7.1b98b71b9fb6@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > My most recent batch of cookbooks are also by Fran > McCullough -- I bought all of the past editions of > America's Best Recipes (back to 1999). These books > are collections of the best identified recipes for > the year (or two years lately) taken from books, > magazines, newspapers, package labels and the > internet. I've found quite a few gems, the most > recent thing I made was a Brazilian Fish Stew which > was easy and fantastic (actually Bruce didn't care > for it, but I didn't expect him to). Anyway, I love > these books and will continue to get each edition. What's in the fish stew, besides fish? I mean, what makes it Brazilian? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 10:09:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8OF9utS032478 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:09:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7AAF81E60055; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:09:24 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 488F21E60027 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:09:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D42F5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:05:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12153167 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:05:27 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8OF5Qn02697 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:05:27 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 090F42B652; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 08:05:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E392B58F for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 08:05:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 08:05:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm a Winner!! In-Reply-To: <20030924030141.GB19954@pobox.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Tushar Samant wrote: > 02003-09-23 | Lynne Weber writes: > > Oooh, Theo! Food pleases me immensely. Cookbooks are > > treasure troves. Food is one of the lasting joys of life. > > Huh! Food is close to the least lasting on the "joys" list ... You can come back and tell us when you're maybe 90, which are the most lasting joys of life. You ever been in a senior center or old folks residence? Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 10:32:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8OFWhtS032675 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:32:43 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CE6B01E6004B; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:32:10 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A133D1E60027 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:32:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D444E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:28:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12156716 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:28:13 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8OFSDn11282 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:28:13 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8OFSBUZ031551 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 08:28:11 -0700 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8OFSAJC031534 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 08:28:11 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20030924082603.00a55c60@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 08:26:51 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: I'm a Winner!! In-Reply-To: <1b9fb61b98b7.1b98b71b9fb6@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:25 AM 9/24/2003 -0400, you wrote: >From: "clyde w. voigtlander" > > >I'm a cookbook junkie... > > > > I suspect that I am as well. I like/collect them less for the > > specificrecipes than for the approaches to cooking. Except for > > some aspects of > > baking, recipes are only guidelines, anyhow. One of my latest > > acquisitions is The Good Fat Cookbook, by Fran McCullough. > >My most recent batch of cookbooks are also by Fran McCullough -- I bought >all of the past editions of America's Best Recipes (back to 1999). These >books are collections of the best identified recipes for the year (or two >years lately) taken from books, magazines, newspapers, package labels and >the internet. I've found quite a few gems, the most recent thing I made >was a Brazilian Fish Stew which was easy and fantastic (actually Bruce >didn't care for it, but I didn't expect him to). Anyway, I love these >books and will continue to get each edition. > >Marie Which reminds me to ask you for you potato salad recipe, please. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 10:32:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8OFWktS032678 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:32:46 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C974E1E6004B; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:32:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99B9C1E60027 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:32:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D444F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:28:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12156727 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:28:16 -0400 Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.31]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8OFSGn11295 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:28:16 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HLQ001RP2P9EE@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:24:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.36] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:21:28 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:21:28 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Heat Lightning To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <1b17a61b77e4.1b77e41b17a6@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU FWIW, I loved A Confederacy of Dunces. I keep waiting for the movie to be made. I want Philip Seymour Hoffman to play Ignatius with that green hat. Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: bonniev Date: Monday, September 15, 2003 9:59 pm Subject: Re: Heat Lightning > Alright, I will. People have been calling for you to announce the > location of fest 2004. > > Any chance you can get off work after all and come up here for the > week of > 9/29 to 10/6 ?? > > > > >bonniev re: _A Confederacy of Dunces_ > > > >>published. In any case, it's supposed to present an accurate > picture of > >>New Orleans. All of this being old news, I imagine, because it was > >>published in 1980. > > > >I tried reading it a couple of times but never made it past page > 30 or so. > >Please let me know if you read the whole thing. > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Compare Cable, DSL or Satellite plans: As low as $29.95. > >https://broadband.msn.com > > bonnie > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 10:49:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8OFnYtS000402 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:49:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 921621E6004B; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:49:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49B871E60027 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:49:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009D4527@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:45:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12158682 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:45:04 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8OFj3n16121 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:45:03 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8OFj3017347 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:45:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 5F3CE16B4; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:45:03 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:45:03 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm a Winner!! Message-ID: <20030924154503.GC12165@pobox.com> References: <20030924030141.GB19954@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-24 | Ann Borkin writes: > On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Tushar Samant wrote: > > > 02003-09-23 | Lynne Weber writes: > > > Oooh, Theo! Food pleases me immensely. Cookbooks are > > > treasure troves. Food is one of the lasting joys of life. > > > > Huh! Food is close to the least lasting on the "joys" list ... > > You can come back and tell us when you're maybe 90, which are the most > lasting joys of life. > > You ever been in a senior center or old folks residence? Don't they have telescopes all over the place looking for every planet, meteor shower, comet and other signs? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 11:20:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8OGKstS000756 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:20:54 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ED6B71E60027; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:20:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB04E1E60006 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:20:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009D467B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 12:16:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12161857 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 12:16:24 -0400 Received: from web20513.mail.yahoo.com (web20513.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8OGGOn23932 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 12:16:24 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20513.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 09:16:23 PDT Message-ID: <20030924161623.93416.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 09:16:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: I'm a Winner!! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20030924154503.GC12165@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Don't they have telescopes all over the place > looking for every > planet, meteor shower, comet and other signs? Only the males, and it's anybody's guess what they're looking for - other signs, most likely. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 11:32:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8OGWTtS000904 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:32:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7DC331E60027; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:31:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 408781E60006 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:31:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009D4711@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 12:27:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12163335 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 12:27:59 -0400 Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8OGRwn26718 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 12:27:59 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HLQ008L18EN46@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 12:27:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.135] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 24 Sep 2003 12:24:41 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 12:24:41 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: I'm a Winner!! To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <1a82ac1a960c.1a960c1a82ac@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Which reminds me to ask you for you potato salad recipe, please. Okay, when I get home. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 11:33:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8OGXgtS000913 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:33:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 53EF01E60027; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:33:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 247D81E60006 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:33:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00177FA8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 12:29:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12163478 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 12:29:12 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8OGTBn26927 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 12:29:11 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 275982B635; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 09:29:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CED32B625 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 09:29:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 09:29:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm a Winner!! In-Reply-To: <20030924154503.GC12165@pobox.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Tushar Samant wrote: > > You ever been in a senior center or old folks residence? > > Don't they have telescopes all over the place looking for every > planet, meteor shower, comet and other signs? Eyesight goes. Mail is a big thing, though . . . Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 11:55:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8OGtVtS001126 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:55:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C853D1E6004B; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:54:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94C8C1E60027 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:54:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009D47D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 12:51:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12165237 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 12:51:01 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8OGp1n30350 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 12:51:01 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-108.gwi.net [216.195.152.108]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h8OGoxYp036761 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 12:50:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030924124634.00b7dc80@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 12:51:15 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Confederacy of Dunces In-Reply-To: <1b17a61b77e4.1b77e41b17a6@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just finished it. It was readable and fairly entertaining. But I wouldn't say I loved it. Having made it through that maybe now I'll tackle _A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius_. Or I'll even read _V. _ Or I could go reread John Galt's speech or the chapter in _Moby Dick_ on the color white. >FWIW, I loved A Confederacy of Dunces. I keep waiting for the movie to be >made. I want Philip Seymour Hoffman to play Ignatius with that green hat. > >Marie > >----- Original Message ----- >From: bonniev >Date: Monday, September 15, 2003 9:59 pm >Subject: Re: Heat Lightning > > > Alright, I will. People have been calling for you to announce the > > location of fest 2004. > > > > Any chance you can get off work after all and come up here for the > > week of > > 9/29 to 10/6 ?? > > > > > > > > >bonniev re: _A Confederacy of Dunces_ > > > > > >>published. In any case, it's supposed to present an accurate > > picture of > > >>New Orleans. All of this being old news, I imagine, because it was > > >>published in 1980. > > > > > >I tried reading it a couple of times but never made it past page > > 30 or so. > > >Please let me know if you read the whole thing. > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > >Compare Cable, DSL or Satellite plans: As low as $29.95. > > >https://broadband.msn.com > > > > bonnie > > bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 12:26:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8OHQUtS001455 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 12:26:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D1D5C1E60027; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 12:25:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B46221E6005E for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 12:25:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D48B5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:21:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12167536 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:21:59 -0400 Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.9]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8OHLwn03189 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:21:58 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HLQ00M49AVTYP@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:21:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.36] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:18:40 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:18:40 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Doggy doors To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <1c9a4f1c6d79.1c6d791c9a4f@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Wishful thinking on my part. We Have found that > having more than one dog lessens the pain of losing > one, but that is hardly a reason. Just like to see > them go to loving homes. We've actually discussed the idea that maybe in a couple of years we'd consider another. I'm just trying not to push him too hard too fast. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 12:42:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8OHgDtS001623 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 12:42:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9BD0F1E6004B; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 12:41:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7BED1E60012 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 12:41:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D490C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:37:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12168553 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:37:42 -0400 Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.23]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8OHbfn05526 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:37:41 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HLQ00LBYAGMK2@mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:12:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.36] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:09:11 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:09:11 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: I'm a Winner!! To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <1ce9c51cb04c.1cb04c1ce9c5@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > What's in the fish stew, besides fish? I mean, what > makes it Brazilian? Probably the most Brazilian thing about it was the sprinkling of dende (red palm) oil at the end. Also, the addition of unsweetened coconut milk to the broth (I used shrimp broth I had in my freezer, the recipe called for either a fish broth or bottled clam juice). The "fish" I said before was probably wrong -- it was Brazilian Seafood Stew -- scallops, shrimp and monkfish. Also in there was one each -- red, green and yellow peppers, scallions, cilantro, jalapenos (the recipe called for serranos but I had an abundance of jalapeno available), and a tomato. The recipe was originally from the Two Hot Tamales. I have no idea how authentic it is. But I have two more lunch-sized servings in my freezer, and I'm looking forward to them. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 13:49:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8OInItS002340 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:49:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 529D71E6008C; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:48:45 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2045C1E6008A for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:48:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D4CAC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 14:44:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12176692 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 14:44:47 -0400 Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8OIiln22332 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 14:44:47 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HLQ001FBENNY2@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 14:42:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.37] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 24 Sep 2003 14:39:36 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 14:39:36 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: I'm a Winner!! To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <1ce7521cb740.1cb7401ce752@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Oops. The books are titled "Best American Recipes" not "America's Best Recipes". What kind of a librarian...? Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 13:59:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8OIxMtS002470 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:59:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 27A161E6008A; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:58:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0DD31E6004B for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:58:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0017856C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 14:54:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12177706 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 14:54:51 -0400 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8OIspn24356 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 14:54:51 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.c8.3dc9ef65 (3996) for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 14:54:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 14:54:37 EDT Subject: Re: I'm a Winner!! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/24/2003 9:05:58 AM, aborkin@RAHUL.NET writes: >You ever been in a senior center or old folks residence? Yes I have been in one recently, and hated it. It was supposed to be a rehab facility for older folks, and I could hardly wait for the day I was considered well enough to go home. But please tell: what does that have to do with one's eating habits? Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 15:03:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8OK3ltS003197 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 15:03:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7DBAF1E60092; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 15:03:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D72C1E60090 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 15:03:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009D5033@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 15:59:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12184795 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 15:59:15 -0400 Received: from web20501.mail.yahoo.com (web20501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.136]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8OJx7605629 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 15:59:07 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 12:59:06 PDT Message-ID: <20030924195906.34620.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 12:59:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: I'm a Winner!! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > But please tell: what does that have to do with > one's eating habits? > Theo This discussion had percolated down to the subject of "lasting joys" in life. T.S. takes issue with eating's being one of them. Mme. Borinki pointed out that elderly folks have few joys left, as evidenced in the life led by those in nursing homes, etc. T.S. countered with an interrogatory regarding telescopes, comets, and other celestial bodies. Poor eyesight is a fact, for the elderly, retorted Mme. Borinki. So much for thread condensation. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 15:06:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8OK67tS003247 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 15:06:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 07F231E60092; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 15:05:33 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAD7B1E60090 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 15:05:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0017884B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:01:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12185051 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:01:35 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8OK1Y606063 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:01:35 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 2DD572B57F; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:01:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2130F2B57C for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:01:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:01:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm a Winner!! In-Reply-To: <20030924195906.34620.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > telescopes, comets, and other celestial bodies. Poor > eyesight is a fact, for the elderly, retorted Mme. > Borinki. Ha ha ha ha I read first "for the elderly, retarded Mme. Borinki." Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 15:09:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8OK9LtS003277 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 15:09:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 997951E60096; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 15:08:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 475891E60092 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 15:08:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D5055@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:04:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12185381 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:04:50 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8OK4n606739 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:04:49 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id DF9ED2B58C; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:04:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1FAC2B58B for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:04:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:04:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm a Winner!! In-Reply-To: <20030924195906.34620.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > This discussion had percolated down to the subject of > "lasting joys" in life. T.S. takes issue with > eating's being one of them. Mme. Borinki pointed out > that elderly folks have few joys left, as evidenced in > the life led by those in nursing homes, etc. > > T.S. countered with an interrogatory regarding > telescopes, comets, and other celestial bodies. Poor > eyesight is a fact, for the elderly, retorted Mme. > Borinki. > > So much for thread condensation. OR: Lynne said food was a lasting joy. Tushar said food perishes fast. Ann misunderstood and said that people perish fast and most of them find meals of great interest when they get very old. Tushar said old people watch stars and birds. Ann said not when they're blind. Theo said hey what? I was in an old folks place and I don't give a **** about food. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 15:12:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8OKCptS003327 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 15:12:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 90AEE1E60092; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 15:12:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 152AA1E60090 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 15:12:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D5096@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:08:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12185787 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:08:19 -0400 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8OK8J607427 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:08:19 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:08:18 PDT Message-ID: <20030924200818.12441.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:08:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: I'm a Winner!! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Ann Borkin wrote: > On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > > > telescopes, comets, and other celestial bodies. > Poor > > eyesight is a fact, for the elderly, retorted Mme. > > Borinki. > > Ha ha ha ha I read first "for the elderly, retarded > Mme. Borinki." > > Ann __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 15:15:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8OKFStS003384 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 15:15:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9AF521E60092; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 15:14:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48D4A1E60090 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 15:14:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D50C3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:10:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12186153 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:10:57 -0400 Received: from web20503.mail.yahoo.com (web20503.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.138]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8OKAs607984 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:10:55 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:10:54 PDT Message-ID: <20030924201054.36869.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:10:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: I'm a Winner!! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > OR: Lynne said food was a lasting joy. Tushar said > food perishes fast. > Ann misunderstood and said that people perish fast > and most of them find > meals of great interest when they get very old. > Tushar said old people > watch stars and birds. Ann said not when they're > blind. > > Theo said hey what? I was in an old folks place and > I don't give a **** > about food. Mme. Borinki has captured the true essence of this pithy thread. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 16:38:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8OLcItS004284 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:38:18 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5D68B1E60096; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:37:43 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B2571E60092 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:37:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D54EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:33:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12195083 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:33:45 -0400 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8OLXj623280 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:33:45 -0400 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8OLXisV5013520 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:33:44 -0500 Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:33:44 -0500 (CDT) From: poor old johnny ray X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CA In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20030923155119.00a4bec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: References: <5.1.1.5.2.20030923144819.00a62ec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.1.5.2.20030923155119.00a4bec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.0.4.76838 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty: > >about his physical appearance now, not his politics. > They are both pretty gross. What _are_ Arnold's politics? I haven't paid close attention to the election (having to keep tabs on alla the scoundrels in our upcoming races). The complaint's been that he's never said just what he's all about, right? Other than, "I am a familiar face that is not Gray Davis", of course. -- golly vorn ee ya From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 16:45:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8OLj8tS004403 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:45:08 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6553F1E60092; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:44:33 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 394251E60090 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:44:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009D554E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:40:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12195784 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:40:36 -0400 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8OLeZ624289 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:40:35 -0400 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8OLeYsV8069336 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:40:34 -0500 Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:40:34 -0500 (CDT) From: poor old johnny ray X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: dead frog In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20030923193952.00a1bd80@uclink.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: References: <5b.3e976c72.2c9cfbbc@aol.com> <5b.3e976c72.2c9cfbbc@aol.com> <4.2.2.20030923193952.00a1bd80@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.0.4.76838 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty: > When Larry's dog ate a frog, he foamed at the mouth. Well, you gotta pick around the foam-producing parts. >My niece had craw dads at her rehearsal barbecue. Clearly a woman of refined tastes. -- BTW, you meant to type "fish" not " dads". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 16:54:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8OLsqtS004484 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:54:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B7EF01E6009B; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:54:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8790E1E60096 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:54:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D5587@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:50:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12196451 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:50:20 -0400 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8OLoK625512 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:50:20 -0400 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8OLoIsV950500 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:50:19 -0500 Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:50:18 -0500 (CDT) From: poor old johnny ray X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm a Winner!! In-Reply-To: <20030924195906.34620.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20030924195906.34620.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.0.4.76838 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > So much for thread condensation. Well done, Lynne, so much so that it made me pine for Myles's digests. -- pine hah hah hah i read e-mail with pine From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 16:58:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8OLwmtS004521 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:58:48 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D85801E600AB; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:58:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A996B1E6009B for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:58:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D55A3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:54:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12196826 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:54:16 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8OLsG626062 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:54:16 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8OLsEW1018272 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 14:54:15 -0700 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8OLsEWq018240 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 14:54:14 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20030924145149.00a57050@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 14:52:54 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: CA In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.1.5.2.20030923155119.00a4bec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.1.5.2.20030923144819.00a62ec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.1.5.2.20030923155119.00a4bec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:33 PM 9/24/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Betty: > > >about his physical appearance now, not his politics. > > They are both pretty gross. > >What _are_ Arnold's politics? > >I haven't paid close attention to the >election (having to keep tabs on alla >the scoundrels in our upcoming races). > >The complaint's been that he's never >said just what he's all about, right? Exactly. I think someone has to tell him first. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 17:07:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8OM7LtS004645 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:07:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 154F61E6009B; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:06:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D72E21E60096 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:06:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00178DC9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:02:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12197717 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:02:49 -0400 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8OM2m627208 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:02:48 -0400 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8OM2YsV5341412 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:02:45 -0500 Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:02:34 -0500 (CDT) From: poor old johnny ray X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm a Winner!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.0.4.76838 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann: >Theo said hey what? I was in an old folks >place and I don't give a **** about food. Yeah, I used to know a guy who was in charge of the kitchen at an old folks place. Some weren't interested in eating at all. Others wanted all the things they always liked, but because of dietary restriction and whatnot, they shouldn't eat (I mean, this isn't hospice, but why *that* was an issue is beyond me, but whatever). His crew made stuff like "fried eggs" made of egg whites and some cleverly-placed yellow food coloring. -- things they do look awful c-c-c-c-old From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 17:24:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8OMODtS004890 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:24:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 689971E600B7; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:23:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AF771E600BA for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:23:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D5675@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:19:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12198685 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:19:41 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8OMJe628953 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:19:40 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.152.70]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030924221935.ICH1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:19:35 -0400 Message-ID: <3F721877.884AC2D1@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:19:35 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: packed - mostly! References: <3F7176AB.F1836B9E@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >Your talk is making me want to move again! Moving is fun. > > NOT! If my packers had not shown up, I might have fled to Brazil this > morning. I packed a month in advance. Had to because of summer school. Did all the packing before summer school started except for a small amount of stuff I had to use. There's no other way I could have managed it. But it was exciting making my way around my old house when most rooms were filled floor to ceiling with packed, taped boxes. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 17:25:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8OMPVtS004899 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:25:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 679291E600BA; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:24:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 359881E6009B for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:24:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D567E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:20:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12198752 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:20:59 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8OMKw629051 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:20:58 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.152.70]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030924222048.IMR1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:20:48 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7218BF.B168159F@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:20:47 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fridge (was Re: I'm a Winner!!) References: <7d.3e3cd7cd.2ca28933@aol.com> <3F71786A.4040002@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Rita Leonard wrote: > > >to do with egg slots. We just purchased a new one which will arrive on > >Saturday. It does have a removable egg slot tray. I foolishly > >neglected to count the slots. Will report on Saturday. > > Brand? Have I mentioned that I have no eggs slots in this house? I can't remember whether I even noticed it before this morning, when for some reason I thought about it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 17:33:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8OMXPtS004974 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:33:25 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0338B1E600BA; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:32:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CABD11E600B7 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:32:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009D56D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:28:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12199240 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:28:52 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8OMSq629881 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:28:52 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.152.70]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030924222847.LGQ1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:28:47 -0400 Message-ID: <3F721A9E.EFAC04E5@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:28:46 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Stork Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Would you assume from the blue blanket in the stork's mouth that this is a boy? I can't find one with a pink blanket. http://www.clipart-directory.com/clipart/Baby/tn_FPB0102.gif -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 17:44:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8OMi2tS005102 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:44:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 27E851E600BE; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:43:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC8531E600B7 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:43:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D56ED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:39:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12199782 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:39:29 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8OMdT630935 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:39:29 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.23) id 1A2IIm-0001QZ-0f for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:40:04 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030924154040.03c2b4e8@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 15:41:51 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Stork In-Reply-To: <3F721A9E.EFAC04E5@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, >Would you assume from the blue blanket in the stork's mouth that this is >a boy? Yes. >I can't find one with a pink blanket. Just mailed you that graphic with the blanket turned pink. Hope the GIF attachment makes it through. Also see: Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 17:47:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8OMlrtS005164 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:47:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 14F1C1E600BE; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:47:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF701E600B7 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:47:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D5714@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:43:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12200144 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:43:20 -0400 Received: from imf11aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf11aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.59]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8OMhK631607 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:43:20 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.152.70]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030924224225.NWKE1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:42:25 -0400 Message-ID: <3F721DD2.7500965C@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:42:26 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Stork References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030924154040.03c2b4e8@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > Just mailed you that graphic with the blanket turned pink. Hope the GIF > attachment makes it through. THANK YOU!! IT'S PERFECT! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 18:15:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8ONFZtS005508 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:15:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B47661E600BE; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:14:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87EA61E600B7 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:14:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009D57E8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 19:11:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12201854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 19:11:02 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8ONB1602699 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 19:11:01 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.152.70]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030924231056.SOER1821.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 19:10:56 -0400 Message-ID: <3F722480.D1992DC5@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:10:56 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Stork References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030924154040.03c2b4e8@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU But it just occurred to me that I can't print in color... I think maybe I'll just buy invitations at the Hallmark Shop. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 18:22:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8ONMitS005551 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:22:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E54D01E600BF; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:22:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B001E600BE for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:22:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009D581B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 19:18:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12202327 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 19:18:11 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8ONIB603495 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 19:18:11 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.23) id 1A2IuE-0003it-6j for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 19:18:46 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030924161959.03e33ec0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:20:32 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Stork In-Reply-To: <3F722480.D1992DC5@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030924154040.03c2b4e8@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, >But it just occurred to me that I can't print in color... I think maybe >I'll just buy invitations at the Hallmark Shop. :) Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 18:54:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8ONsJtS005935 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:54:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 951161E600C8; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:53:43 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 681861E600C6 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:53:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D5928@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 19:49:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12204832 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 19:49:46 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8ONnj607276 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 19:49:45 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[66.31.143.74]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003092423494001600s767he> (Authid: adamh1); Wed, 24 Sep 2003 23:49:40 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: I'm a Winner!! Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 19:49:37 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Yeah, I used to know a guy who was in > charge of the kitchen at an old folks > place. Some weren't interested in > eating at all. Granny doesn't like the food at her nursing home at ALL. She lives on Boost, soup, popcorn, and Hershey bars. Mom takes her out to dinner on Sundays, and she eats voraciously, so it's not that her appetite has failed. When I visit her and she's at dinner, I encourage her to eat whatever it is. --Adam adamh1@comcast.net From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 19:47:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8P0lWtS006562 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 19:47:33 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EFF441E600C8; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 19:46:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2FCC1E600C6 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 19:46:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00179158@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 20:42:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12206870 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 20:42:50 -0400 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Sk6oAOO+E6gUfa+byezIeAuxHeU/MXlS@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8P0go613177 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 20:42:50 -0400 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5158630554 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:42:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1D042382C for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:42:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20030924145149.00a57050@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <5.1.1.5.2.20030923155119.00a4bec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.1.5.2.20030923144819.00a62ec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.1.5.2.20030923155119.00a4bec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: The sunrise is going down quickly X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Jon-Carroll: We live in a culture of lies Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:42:46 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: CA Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>What _are_ Arnold's politics? >>The complaint's been that he's never >>said just what he's all about, right? > >Exactly. I think someone has to tell him first. > >Betty He's the political re-incarnation of Ross Perot, he is. He doesn't know what changes need to be made, but he will guarantee that he'll do exactly whatever it is that has to be done (whatever that is) right after he gets elected. If the people of California wanted a secretive, noncommunicative governor, why would we swap Davis for Schwarzenegger? At least with Davis, when he's being quiet, it's usually because he knows but doesn't want to tell. With Schwarzenegger, it's pretty obvious that he's quiet on the issues because he hasn't yet gotten a script from his producers. By the way, I don't know how much of this made the national news, but Darrell Issa, the man who substantially financed the recall petition drive in the first place, has announced that if the Republican party can't unify on a single candidate, then Republicans should vote "no" on the recall. As you may know, while the petition drive was in progress, its spokespeople kept pushing the message that it wasn't about party, but about Davis. Issa's recent announcement amounted to a confession: right from the start, it *was* about party. Ken Miller Political Correspondent The Lostin Times From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 20:03:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8P13gtS006773 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 20:03:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7606D1E600C8; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 20:03:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 491301E600C6 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 20:03:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D5A27@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 20:59:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12207817 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 20:59:08 -0400 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:lEWvi4wlvQbbgkxTB5lg4UGY9fFXyaw4@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8P0x8615717 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 20:59:08 -0400 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8107A305AE for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:59:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 053A22382C for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:59:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: The sunrise is going down quickly X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Jon-Carroll: We live in a culture of lies Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:59:02 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: quote of the week Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Newshour today (9/24/03), Paul Bremer made this observation: "Eighty-seven billion dollars, even in Washington, is a lot of money." (Source: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/newhours_index.html and click on the Paul Bremer interview for the RealAudio -- the quote is about 40 seconds into the interview) Ken Miller Bartlett Quotology Institute From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 20:06:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8P16KtS006796 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 20:06:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 57B351E600C8; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 20:05:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26A331E600C6 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 20:05:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D5A4E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:01:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12208136 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:01:46 -0400 Received: from imo-m03.mx.aol.com (imo-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.6]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8P11k616188 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:01:46 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.bf.367d6a61 (4246) for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:01:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:01:33 EDT Subject: Re: I'm a Winner!! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/24/2003 5:49:58 PM, adamh1@COMCAST.NET writes: >When I visit >her and she's at dinner, I encourage her to eat whatever it is. > The food wasn't too bad in the place I was in, although rather boring. And the staff does keep track of how much you eat, because they told one of my kids that I was a "good eater". That was probably due to the fact that the meals were about the only thing one had to choose from as far as excitement that was offered. They must not have paid too much attention either, because I'd turn in my plate with a lot of uneaten stuff 1/2 of the time. So how much did they expect you to eat? Puzzled... Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 20:10:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8P1AHtS006839 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 20:10:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DE2DB1E600D8; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 20:09:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF7401E600C8 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 20:09:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D5A63@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:05:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12208336 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:05:44 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8P15i616887 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:05:44 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8P15gUZ031153 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:05:43 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8P15dJC031050; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:05:40 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20030924180623.00a56e20@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:06:47 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: I'm a Winner!! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:01 PM 9/24/2003 -0400, Theo Groothof wrote: >They must not have paid too much attention either, because I'd turn in my >plate with a lot of uneaten stuff 1/2 of the time. So how much did they expect >you to eat? Puzzled... >Theo As much as you wanted. Who cares? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 20:18:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8P1ITtS006942 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 20:18:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9840C1E600D8; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 20:17:53 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A82A1E600C8 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 20:17:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D5A7A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:13:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12208626 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:13:55 -0400 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8P1Dt618164 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:13:55 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:13:54 PDT Message-ID: <20030925011354.53498.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:13:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: CA To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20030924145149.00a57050@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Exactly. I think someone has to tell him first. > > Betty So far, I've only heard of a couple of policy hints, and they were "agin", such as marriage for gays, and the like. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 20:23:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8P1NUtS006986 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 20:23:30 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7F1961E600DA; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 20:22:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B3671E600D8 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 20:22:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D5AA0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:18:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12208967 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:18:56 -0400 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8P1Iu618881 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:18:56 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:18:55 PDT Message-ID: <20030925011855.73941.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:18:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Stork To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F721A9E.EFAC04E5@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Would you assume from the blue blanket in the > stork's mouth that this is > a boy? I can't find one with a pink blanket. Yeah, but can you assume it IS blue? Because the stork and the baby look sorta yellow. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 20:28:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8P1S0tS007055 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 20:28:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 63D021E600DA; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 20:27:24 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36BCD1E600D8 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 20:27:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D5ABE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:23:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12209259 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:23:26 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8P1NQ619607 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:23:26 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00179238@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:23:26 -0400 Message-Id: <200309250123.h8P1NQ619607@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:23:26 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: FW: You credit card has been charged for $234.65 (fwd) To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 19:07:44 EDT, Theo Groothof wrote: >In a message dated 9/23/2003 4:02:06 PM, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: > >>Theo, Tushar is being facetious. They scammers; they are trying to >> trick people like my drunk great-uncle's second wife (who married him >> because she respected him for believing that professional wrestling is >> "the real thing") >-- >Thanks for "enlightening me!" For a moment I was starting to think that I was >*missing stuff* Please remember that I'm just an ignurrent furrener.;-} >Theo Touche', or should I say Tushar!? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 20:37:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8P1bBtS007163 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 20:37:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DD40D1E600DB; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 20:36:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF1A41E600DA for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 20:36:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D5B07@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:32:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12209850 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:32:37 -0400 Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com (web20502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8P1WV621116 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:32:36 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:32:27 PDT Message-ID: <20030925013227.17081.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:32:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Stork To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F722480.D1992DC5@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > But it just occurred to me that I can't print in > color... I think maybe > I'll just buy invitations at the Hallmark Shop. I am really, REALLY laughing out loud. These may be the best two Natalie lines yet.:-] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 20:52:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8P1qbtS007263 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 20:52:37 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2B17C1E600E1; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 20:52:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E9CA1E600DB for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 20:52:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001792DF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:48:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12210926 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:47:47 -0400 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8P1lk622560 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:47:47 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:47:46 PDT Message-ID: <20030925014746.62285.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:47:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: quote of the week To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > "Eighty-seven billion dollars, even in Washington, > is a lot of money." Rumsfeld said essentially the same thing. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 21:16:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8P2GjtS007482 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:16:46 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4B78F1E600DB; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:16:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D5A81E600D8 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:16:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009D5C45@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:12:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12212377 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:12:11 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8P2CB625405 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:12:11 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.152.70]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030925021206.TGRC1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:12:06 -0400 Message-ID: <3F724EF5.84428A87@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:12:05 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CA References: <5.1.1.5.2.20030923155119.00a4bec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.1.5.2.20030923144819.00a62ec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.1.5.2.20030923155119.00a4bec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bookrat wrote: > By the way, I don't know how much of this made the national news, but > Darrell Issa, the man who substantially financed the recall petition drive > in the first place, has announced that if the Republican party can't unify > on a single candidate, then Republicans should vote "no" on the recall. As It made national news. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 21:18:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8P2ICtS007502 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:18:12 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 949AE1E600DB; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:17:35 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 674091E600D8 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:17:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D5C38@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:13:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12212422 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:13:38 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8P2Db625584 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:13:37 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.152.70]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030925021332.THUS1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:13:32 -0400 Message-ID: <3F724F4C.3D0DBDF5@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:13:32 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Stork References: <20030925013227.17081.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > But it just occurred to me that I can't print in > > color... I think maybe > > I'll just buy invitations at the Hallmark Shop. > > I am really, REALLY laughing out loud. These may be > the best two Natalie lines yet.:-] The invitation I created on my computer looked pretty, though. Hmm. I guess I could e-mail them as attachments. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 21:41:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8P2fetS007790 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:41:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 06E3F1E600E6; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:41:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAFD11E600E1 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:41:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D5C90@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:37:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12213338 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:37:06 -0400 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8P2b6627845 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:37:06 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.ba.470f860d (17228) for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:36:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:36:50 EDT Subject: Re: I'm a Winner!! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/24/2003 7:06:22 PM, bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU writes: >As much as you wanted. Who cares? That isn't the point. Aren't they supposed to keep you as healthy as possible? Since I need to gain weight, and never did, do they care about their patients welfare? Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Sep 24 21:44:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8P2iutS007819 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:44:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9C3961E600EE; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:44:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A2151E600E7 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:44:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0017946A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:40:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12213499 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:40:22 -0400 Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8P2eL628217 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:40:21 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.18d.1fcf9fc6 (17228) for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:40:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <18d.1fcf9fc6.2ca3af8e@aol.com> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:40:14 EDT Subject: Re: FW: You credit card has been charged for $234.65 (fwd) To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/24/2003 7:23:49 PM, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: >Touche', or should I say Tushar!? >clo > Hey! You made me smile. Thanks! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Sep 25 07:34:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8PCYKtS014483 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 07:34:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DDDDA1E60133; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 07:33:39 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADABA1E6010A for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 07:33:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0017A364@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 8:29:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12250897 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 08:29:39 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8PCTd617571 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 08:29:39 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-154-198.gwi.net [216.195.154.198]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h8PCTaYr092384 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 08:29:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030925082740.00b9e008@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 08:29:18 -0400 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: bonniev Subject: quoted without permission Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id h8PCTd617572 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This guy is on my Guiding Light (soap opera) list. I feel like inviting him to words-l: --------------------------------------------- I have absolutely no problem with dropping the subject but I have a huge problem with people misusing the English language. I hear too much of that in America. debate SYLLABICATION: de·bate PRONUNCIATION: AUDIO: d-bt KEY VERB: Inflected forms: de·bat·ed, de·bat·ing, de·bates INTRANSITIVE VERB: 1. To consider something; deliberate. 2. To engage in argument by discussing opposing points. 3. To engage in a formal discussion or argument. See synonyms at discuss. 4. Obsolete To fight or quarrel. TRANSITIVE VERB: 1. To deliberate on; consider. 2. To dispute or argue about. 3. To discuss or argue (a question, for example) formally. 4. Obsolete To fight or argue for or over. NOUN: 1. A discussion involving opposing points; an argument. 2. Deliberation; consideration: passed the motion with little debate. 3. A formal contest of argumentation in which two opposing teams defend and attack a given proposition. 4. Obsolete Conflict; strife. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Sep 25 08:49:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8PDnJtS015188 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 08:49:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C04411E6013A; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 08:48:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F51F1E60133 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 08:48:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D7163@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 9:44:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12258721 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 09:44:40 -0400 Received: from web20509.mail.yahoo.com (web20509.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.144]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8PDiev03340 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 09:44:40 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20509.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 06:44:39 PDT Message-ID: <20030925134439.87521.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 06:44:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Legal Angst To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Cow-orker: "The D.A.'s Office is going to wreck and ruin." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Sep 25 09:19:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8PEJutS015544 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 09:19:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1357B1E60133; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 09:19:15 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8B0E1E6010A for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 09:19:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0017A778@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:15:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12262540 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:15:16 -0400 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8PEFGv13792 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:15:16 -0400 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8PEFEsV6496372 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 09:15:15 -0500 Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 09:15:14 -0500 (CDT) From: poor old johnny ray X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Ignatius J. Reilly Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.0.4.76838 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hey Marie: This morning's paper reports that (yet again) someone claims to be making a movie version of Confederacy of Dunces. Some of the casting choices are, well, an affront to decency. http://www.nola.com/rose/index.ssf?/base/living-0/1064467657103530.xml From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Sep 25 09:21:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8PELstS015557 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 09:21:54 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BEF051E6013A; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 09:21:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DD091E60133 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 09:21:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D72FF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:17:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12262798 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:17:15 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8PEHFv14437 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:17:15 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:17:16 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:16:41 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Legal Angst Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h8PELstS015557 why is this so strange? "wrack" and "wreck" are essentially the same thing. Or am I missing something deeper? BrP >>> lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM 09/25/03 09:44AM >>> Cow-orker: "The D.A.'s Office is going to wreck and ruin." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Sep 25 10:07:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8PF7VtS016034 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:07:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 032581E6010A; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:06:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4C7D1E60108 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:06:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009D751C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:02:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12267963 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:02:51 -0400 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8PF2pv28744 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:02:51 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 08:02:50 PDT Message-ID: <20030925150250.83179.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 08:02:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Ignatius J. Reilly To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- poor old johnny ray wrote: > Hey Marie: This morning's paper reports > that (yet again) someone claims to be > making a movie version of Confederacy > of Dunces. > > Some of the casting choices are, well, > an affront to decency. > > http://www.nola.com/rose/index.ssf?/base/living-0/1064467657103530.xml The book has been in our house for about 12 years. My husband got interested in it when he read a book about "Lucky Dogs", though I don't know how there connected (the books, not the dogs). Now I'll have to put it on my list. I'm at the tail end of Sir Isaac Newton, and e.e. cummings is hovering. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Sep 25 10:15:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8PFFGtS016096 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:15:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6C3541E60133; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:14:35 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 386F61E6013A for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:14:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0017A99D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:10:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12268792 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:10:37 -0400 Received: from web20511.mail.yahoo.com (web20511.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.150]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8PFAbv30991 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:10:37 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20511.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 08:10:36 PDT Message-ID: <20030925151036.64420.qmail@web20511.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 08:10:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Legal Angst To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Paul Barfoot wrote: > why is this so strange? "wrack" and "wreck" are > essentially the same thing. Or am I missing > something deeper? Point well taken. I had in mind the word "rack". __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Sep 25 10:35:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8PFZ9tS016332 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:35:10 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 731671E60108; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:34:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45D6F1E600DE for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:34:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0017AA51@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:30:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12269747 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:30:30 -0400 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8PFKTv01373 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:20:29 -0400 Received: from ra.msstate.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.12.9/8.12.8/ra_1.2) with ESMTP; id h8PFKSwx001817 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:20:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from maynor@localhost) by ra.msstate.edu (8.12.9/8.12.7/Submit) id h8PFKRMa001816 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:20:27 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:20:27 -0500 (CDT) From: Natalie Maynor Message-Id: <200309251520.h8PFKRMa001816@ra.msstate.edu> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Ethan Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://tinyurl.com/on3e --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Sep 25 11:26:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8PGQ4tS016881 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:26:05 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 210E01E6014D; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:25:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8EC21E60133 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:25:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0017AC64@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:21:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12276345 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:21:24 -0400 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8PGLOv14973 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:21:24 -0400 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8PGLNsV5996648 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:21:23 -0500 Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:21:23 -0500 (CDT) From: poor old johnny ray X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ignatius J. Reilly In-Reply-To: <20030925150250.83179.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20030925150250.83179.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.0.4.76838 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 25 Sep 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > husband got interested in it when he read a book about > "Lucky Dogs", _Managing Ignatius_? > though I don't know how there connected > (the books, not the dogs). Among his other adventures, Ignatius has a stint as a Lucky Dogs vendor. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Sep 25 11:26:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8PGQ9tS016884 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:26:09 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A90701E6014F; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:25:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78C521E6014D for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:25:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D7884@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:21:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12275260 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:21:29 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8PGBTv12864 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:11:29 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8PGBSQw007935 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:11:28 -0400 Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:11:28 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: packed - mostly! In-Reply-To: <3F721877.884AC2D1@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3F7176AB.F1836B9E@maynor.net> <3F721877.884AC2D1@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: hits=0 tests= X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I packed a month in advance. Had to because of summer school. Did all >the packing before summer school started except for a small amount of >stuff I had to use. There's no other way I could have managed it. But >it was exciting making my way around my old house when most rooms were >filled floor to ceiling with packed, taped boxes. ! Exciting? My feeling was more like despair! I like stability - I like knowing where stuff IS. But, that said, I will say that it was gratifying to have the worst over last night (the move yesterday took from 8:45 a.m. until after 6:30 p.m.) - and I enjoyed waking up in Sequoyah Hills to light instead of crumbling brick walls. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Sep 25 11:43:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8PGhktS017051 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:43:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C18A11E60145; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:43:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 941661E60133 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:43:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D7951@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:39:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12278350 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:39:06 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8PGd6v19851 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:39:06 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8PGd5I01852 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:39:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 9101816B4; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:39:05 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:39:05 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Of, uh, general interest here ... Message-ID: <20030925163905.GA1964@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This means YOU ... http://homepage.mac.com/monickels/techjob.html [article] by the New York Times suggests that people are becoming technically adept by necessity, and that, as happened with radios and automobiles, eventually all technology will take care of itself and be as mindless to operate as toasters are today. I see that day as decades off. Computers are still complex to make, complex to learn, complex to integrate with other gadgets. More importantly, they still have more than one knob or lever. Until that day of machine self-reliance, I see a golden opportunity: an under-served market waiting for the ambitious to step in. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Sep 25 12:37:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8PHbttS017740 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:37:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C76B21E60145; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:37:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95BED1E6012F for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:37:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009D7C0C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 13:33:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12284496 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 13:33:06 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8PHX6v00538 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 13:33:06 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8PHX68b003862 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 13:33:06 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h8PHX6fC028771 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 13:33:06 -0400 Message-ID: <074701c3838b$145937f0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20030925163905.GA1964@pobox.com> Subject: Re: Of, uh, general interest here ... Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 13:33:06 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tushar Samant" > This means YOU ... > > http://homepage.mac.com/monickels/techjob.html > > [article] by the New York Times suggests that people are becoming > technically adept by necessity, and that, as happened with radios > and automobiles, eventually all technology will ... be as mindless > to operate as toasters are today. Would someone please tell the faculty and staff here at URI. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Sep 25 12:49:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8PHnntS017887 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:49:49 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9EB5D1E6014D; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:49:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E0301E60145 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:49:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D7C88@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 13:45:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12285880 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 13:45:08 -0400 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8PHj7v04034 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 13:45:08 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:45:07 PDT Message-ID: <20030925174507.67495.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:45:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: packed - mostly! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >I packed a month in advance. Had to because of > summer school. Did all > >the packing before summer school started except for > a small amount of > >stuff I had to use. There's no other way I could > have managed it. But > >it was exciting making my way around my old house > when most rooms were > >filled floor to ceiling with packed, taped boxes. You see? Natalie would be perfectly at home in a warehouse. > Exciting? My feeling was more like despair! I like > stability - I like > knowing where stuff IS. > > But, that said, I will say that it was gratifying to > have the worst over > last night (the move yesterday took from 8:45 a.m. > until after 6:30 p.m.) > - and I enjoyed waking up in Sequoyah Hills to light > instead of > crumbling brick walls. Please do not tempt the Fates by allowing this house to go unbless for very long. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Sep 25 12:54:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8PHsotS017969 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:54:50 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 640461E60145; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:54:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 329B71E6012F for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:54:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009D7CF5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 13:50:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12286583 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 13:50:07 -0400 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8PHo3v05522 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 13:50:03 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:50:02 PDT Message-ID: <20030925175002.68748.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:50:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Ignatius J. Reilly To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > "Lucky Dogs", > > _Managing Ignatius_? Yes.! And my husband never reads anything but the Annotated Sherlock Holmes over and over. But all his life he has had a passionate interest in NOLA, so that must have fueled his interest. > Among his other adventures, Ignatius > has a stint as a Lucky Dogs vendor. That book, Managing, is pretty interesting, too. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Sep 25 13:21:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8PILmtS018302 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 13:21:48 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AF98C1E60153; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 13:21:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B5751E6014F for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 13:21:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D7E15@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 14:17:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12288504 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 14:17:07 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8PI76v10005 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 14:07:06 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8PI74Qw014478 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 14:07:04 -0400 Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 14:07:04 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: packed - mostly! In-Reply-To: <20030925174507.67495.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20030925174507.67495.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: hits=0 tests= X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 25 Sep 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >Please do not tempt the Fates by allowing this house >to go unbless for very long. Thank you for reminding me .... and stay tuned! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Sep 25 14:25:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8PJPgtS019046 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 14:25:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 12A451E6015E; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 14:24:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C39651E60164 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 14:24:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D815F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 15:20:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12296760 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 15:20:28 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8PJKSv26126 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 15:20:28 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0017B46D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 15:20:27 -0400 Message-Id: <200309251920.h8PJKSv26126@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 15:20:28 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Ethan To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:20:27 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >http://tinyurl.com/on3e > --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) "Zohn's strength of character the 15 other contestants" And then he flied back home and liven happily ever after because he was very bless. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Sep 25 14:25:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8PJPutS019068 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 14:25:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5CEC51E60167; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 14:25:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22ABD1E60164 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 14:25:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009D8177@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 15:21:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12296831 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 15:21:15 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8PJLFv26320 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 15:21:15 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0017B461@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 15:21:14 -0400 Message-Id: <200309251921.h8PJLFv26320@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 15:21:14 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: packed - mostly! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:11:28 -0400, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > >But, that said, I will say that it was gratifying to have the worst over >last night (the move yesterday took from 8:45 a.m. until after 6:30 p.m.) >- and I enjoyed waking up in Sequoyah Hills to light instead of >crumbling brick walls. > >Bethany YaY! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Sep 25 14:34:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8PJYNtS019153 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 14:34:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 628971E60164; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 14:33:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D99751E6015E for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 14:33:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D81CB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 15:29:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12297824 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 15:29:41 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8PJTfv28037 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 15:29:41 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.23) id 1A2boh-0001Tl-4y for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 15:30:19 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030925122538.02eb6e20@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:32:00 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Ethan In-Reply-To: <200309251920.h8PJKSv26126@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clo writes, >And then he flied back home and liven happily ever after because he was very >bless. m-w sez, "Inflected Form(s): outshone; or -shined". :) Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Sep 25 18:22:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8PNM4tS021653 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 18:22:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E37701E60184; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 18:21:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2C341E6016D for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 18:21:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009D8C44@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 19:17:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12320917 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 19:17:21 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8PNHLv02082 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 19:17:21 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.107]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030925231715.PAHY1810.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 19:17:15 -0400 Message-ID: <3F73777C.6009E71E@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 18:17:16 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Schiphol Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Is it true that in the men's restrooms at Schiphol Airport there's a fly painted on the porcelain at the bottom of every urinal to improve one's aim? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Sep 25 18:25:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8PNPAtS021674 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 18:25:10 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4BE871E6017E; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 18:24:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A5861E6016D for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 18:24:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0017BF33@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 19:20:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12321879 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 19:20:27 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8PNKRv02841 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 19:20:27 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.107]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030925232022.PBKF1810.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 19:20:22 -0400 Message-ID: <3F737836.51C51C58@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 18:20:22 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: packed - mostly! References: <3F7176AB.F1836B9E@maynor.net> <3F721877.884AC2D1@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >it was exciting making my way around my old house when most rooms were > >filled floor to ceiling with packed, taped boxes. > > ! > > Exciting? My feeling was more like despair! I like stability - I like > knowing where stuff IS. But you don't take everything you own with you when you travel, do you? I did not pack the things I was going to be needing during that last month or so. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Sep 25 18:28:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8PNSwtS021736 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 18:28:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C41651E6017D; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 18:28:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96E5F1E6016D for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 18:28:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D8CC4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 19:24:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12322213 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 19:24:15 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8PNOFv03339 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 19:24:15 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8PNOEI11838 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 18:24:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id BB3F316B4; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 18:24:14 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 18:24:14 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Schiphol Question Message-ID: <20030925232414.GB22848@pobox.com> References: <3F73777C.6009E71E@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F73777C.6009E71E@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-25 | Natalie Maynor writes: > Is it true that in the men's restrooms at Schiphol Airport there's a fly > painted on the porcelain at the bottom of every urinal to improve one's > aim? Not in the one I was in. BTW there are these humongous "urinal cakes" in there, OK? Yeah, pink triangles ... doesn't mean anything of course, it's purely random ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Sep 25 18:33:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8PNX6tS021805 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 18:33:06 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AD0611E6017E; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 18:32:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BBD81E6017D for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 18:32:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0017BF79@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 19:28:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12322507 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 19:28:23 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8PNSNv03839 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 19:28:23 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.23) id 1A2fXj-0004Ms-Kp for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 19:29:04 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030925162553.03ebbbe0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 16:30:32 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Schiphol Question In-Reply-To: <3F73777C.6009E71E@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, >Is it true that in the men's restrooms at Schiphol Airport there's a fly >painted on the porcelain at the bottom of every urinal to improve one's >aim? Nice large picture: . A purported Wall Street Journal story says that a study by the Schiphol staff found the faux flies reduce spillage by 80%. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Sep 25 18:43:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8PNh4tS021891 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 18:43:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 209D61E6017E; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 18:42:20 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E178E1E6017D for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 18:42:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D8D2F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 19:38:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12323184 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 19:38:21 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8PNcLv05303 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 19:38:21 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8PNcLI21032 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 18:38:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 1DD5D16B4; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 18:38:21 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 18:38:21 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Schiphol Question Message-ID: <20030925233821.GE22848@pobox.com> References: <3F73777C.6009E71E@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20030925162553.03ebbbe0@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030925162553.03ebbbe0@mail.istori.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-25 | Peter Kaminski writes: > Natalie Maynor writes, > > >Is it true that in the men's restrooms at Schiphol Airport there's a fly > >painted on the porcelain at the bottom of every urinal to improve one's > >aim? > > Nice large picture: . > > A purported Wall Street Journal story says that a study by the Schiphol > staff found the faux flies reduce spillage by 80%. Dang! Nice "percentage" number by the way ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Sep 25 19:42:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8Q0gvtS022454 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 19:42:57 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6A00B1E60184; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 19:42:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37E271E6017E for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 19:42:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009D8EE9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:38:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12326867 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:38:13 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8Q0blv12231 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:37:47 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[66.31.143.74]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003092600374101500n37g0e> (Authid: adamh1); Fri, 26 Sep 2003 00:37:41 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Ethan Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:37:41 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200309251920.h8PJKSv26126@listserv.cc.uga.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > "Zohn's strength of character the 15 other contestants" > > And then he flied back home and liven happily ever after because > he was very > bless. > > clo I'm glad mine weren't the only nerves upon which that grated. --Adam adamh1@comcast.net From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Sep 25 19:42:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8Q0gwtS022457 for ; 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charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Click here: Radley Balko on Bloom County on National Review Online Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Sep 25 20:19:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8Q1JctS022822 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:19:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 082481E60187; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:18:53 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA1B41E60184 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:18:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009D9011@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 21:14:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12329599 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 21:14:54 -0400 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8Q1Esv17005 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 21:14:54 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 18:14:53 PDT Message-ID: <20030926011453.64148.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 18:14:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Ethan To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I'm glad mine weren't the only nerves upon which > that grated. > > --Adam > adamh1@comcast.net Yes. Clo, if that is an inflected verb, you'd best delete it. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Sep 25 20:26:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8Q1QjtS022871 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:26:45 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0C9991E60187; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:26:00 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D19751E60184 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:25:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D901F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 21:22:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12329992 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 21:22:01 -0400 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8Q1M1v17830 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 21:22:01 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 18:22:00 PDT Message-ID: <20030926012200.63573.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 18:22:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Opus is returning to the comics pages To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <79.19a4506c.2ca4e46a@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU HREF="http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/balko200309250810.asp">Click > here: Radley Balko on Bloom County on National > Review Online > > > Evelyn Duncan Yay! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Sep 25 20:29:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8Q1TxtS022904 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:29:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F271F1E60198; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:29:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE0E61E60196 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:29:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D9030@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 21:25:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12330131 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 21:25:15 -0400 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8Q1PEv18188 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 21:25:14 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.b0.3ecfd369 (16335) for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 21:24:58 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 21:24:57 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Opus is returning to the comics pages To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/25/2003 8:22:06 PM Central Daylight Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << HREF="http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/balko200309250810.asp">Click >here: Radley Balko on Bloom County on National >Review Online > > >Evelyn Duncan Yay! >> I wonder how Berke Breathed would handle the recall election Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Sep 25 20:35:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8Q1Z9tS022998 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:35:09 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0FCE31E6018C; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:34:24 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D63911E60187 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:34:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D9131@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 21:30:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12332675 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 21:30:25 -0400 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8Q1UPv22875 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 21:30:25 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 18:30:24 PDT Message-ID: <20030926013024.5472.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 18:30:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Opus is returning to the comics pages To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Yay! > > >> > > I wonder how Berke Breathed would handle the recall > election > > Evelyn Duncan > brandykitt@aol.com > http://www.thehungersite.com As poor old johnny ray handles Mardi Gras, I'll bet. With hilarity (not Hillary). __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Sep 25 20:37:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8Q1bntS023005 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:37:49 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F04211E60187; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:37:03 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE0D21E6018C for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:37:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D9138@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 21:33:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12332872 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 21:33:05 -0400 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8Q1X5v23272 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 21:33:05 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 18:33:04 PDT Message-ID: <20030926013304.95241.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 18:33:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Oh, Doris! To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Are you watching Nebraska have its way with Southern Miss? I enjoy seeing SOME team win. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Sep 25 20:57:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8Q1vftS023201 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:57:41 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 36D831E60196; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:56:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02F361E6018C for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:56:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D9190@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 21:52:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12333675 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 21:52:57 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8Q1qvv25032 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 21:52:57 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.107]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030926015252.HHII24914.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 21:52:52 -0400 Message-ID: <3F739BF4.6B57FA73@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:52:52 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Oh, Doris! References: <20030926013304.95241.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > Are you watching Nebraska have its way with Southern > Miss? I enjoy seeing SOME team win. Doesn't SOME team usually win? I've been entertaining myself (since Survivor, which I thought was kind of ho-hum tonight, but that might have been because I was at a party from 4 til 6, which made this not my usual Thursday-night mindframe) looking at possible places to go during the various upcoming holidays. When I called today to make reservations for Spencer for a short trip at the end of October, I asked whether tgiving and xmas were already booked. She said that there are two "rooms" left right now for tgiving and only one for xmas. She urged me to make Spencer's reservations since she said she hates it when the "good babies" have to be turned down. I had been thinking about it a good bit and had assumed that Fbabies was already totally booked by now for the holidays. I had about decided I didn't want to go anywhere anyway. The spirit isn't moving me somehow. None of that paragraph had to do with football, except that some years I like to watch the Egg Bowl on Tgiving night. But not this year. I'm not fb this year. I wonder if Verdant is having her xmas open house this year. That would be fun to go to. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Sep 25 21:43:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8Q2hKtS023821 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 21:43:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 546E31E60196; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 21:42:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2085C1E6018C for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 21:42:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009D92FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 22:38:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12336578 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 22:38:35 -0400 Received: from web20513.mail.yahoo.com (web20513.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8Q2cZv30206 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 22:38:35 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20513.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 19:38:34 PDT Message-ID: <20030926023834.40453.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 19:38:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Oh, Doris! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F739BF4.6B57FA73@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I wonder if Verdant is having her xmas open house > this year. That would > be fun to go to. As a matter of fact, I made arrangements just today to be on vacation both Thanksgiving week and Christmas week, which I don't think I've ever done before. But I won't be going anywhere. Okay, I'll bite. Who is Verdant, what is she that all the swains adore her? Is she lush, leafy and green? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Sep 25 22:21:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8Q3LstS024201 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 22:21:54 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4E9CC1E6019C; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 22:21:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 216381E6019B for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 22:21:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0017C7EE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 23:17:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12343730 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 23:17:09 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8Q3H9v04291 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 23:17:09 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8Q3GlUZ014552; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:16:48 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (as3-4-48.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.196.34]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8Q3GjJC014513; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:16:46 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20030925201727.00a57350@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:17:55 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Oh, Doris! In-Reply-To: <3F739BF4.6B57FA73@maynor.net> References: <20030926013304.95241.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:52 PM 9/25/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >. >I wonder if Verdant is having her xmas open house this year. That would >be fun to go to. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Come! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Sep 25 22:22:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8Q3M2tS024205 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 22:22:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4C8E41E6019B; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 22:21:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E24C1E60198 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 22:21:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D9671@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 23:17:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12343748 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 23:17:18 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8Q3HHv04309 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 23:17:17 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8Q3HGUZ014970 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:17:16 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (as3-4-48.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.196.34]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8Q3HEJC014951; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:17:15 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20030925201813.00a5f9d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:18:24 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Oh, Doris! In-Reply-To: <20030926023834.40453.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> References: <3F739BF4.6B57FA73@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:38 PM 9/25/2003 -0700, Lynne Weber wrote: > > I wonder if Verdant is having her xmas open house > > this year. That would > > be fun to go to. > > >As a matter of fact, I made arrangements just today to >be on vacation both Thanksgiving week and Christmas >week, which I don't think I've ever done before. But >I won't be going anywhere. > >Okay, I'll bite. Who is Verdant, what is she that all >the swains adore her? Is she lush, leafy and green? . Yes. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Sep 25 22:44:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8Q3i8tS024499 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 22:44:08 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0F3A71E6019E; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 22:43:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D47C21E6019B for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 22:43:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009D96CF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 23:39:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12344601 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 23:39:07 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8Q3d7v06269 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 23:39:07 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8Q3cpUZ001559 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:38:51 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (as3-4-48.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.196.34]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8Q3cnJC001520; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:38:50 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20030925203919.00a5c380@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:39:58 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: career changes and "studies" In-Reply-To: <20030915081652.GB24692@pobox.com> References: <4.2.2.20030914220813.00a3b1c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3F6528D3.CB980941@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20030914220813.00a3b1c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:16 AM 9/15/2003 -0500, Tushar Samant wrote: >02003-09-14 | Betty writes: > > >approaching my tenth year in the same job. Tomorrow > > >is my employment anniversary - 28 years. > > > > Next month will be my 36th. > >Time to meet new people. True. I joined Sandra's book club to do that. Where is Sandra? We're reading something by Dickens next month. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 01:53:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8Q6retS026771 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 01:53:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CAF151E6000A; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 01:52:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA581E60009 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 01:52:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D9B9E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 2:48:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12355223 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 02:48:54 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8Q6msv28720 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 02:48:54 -0400 Received: from c1565810-a.alumni.pitt.edu (12-235-188-217.client.attbi.com[12.235.188.217]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003092606484701300cpk3ue> (Authid: nealtraven); Fri, 26 Sep 2003 06:48:48 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030925234340.029f4510@mail.comcast.net> X-Sender: nealtraven@mail.comcast.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 23:48:29 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Neal Traven Subject: chopped liver, officially Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU That is, unless someone had something in the works for the next ten minutes or so. No prob, though, since it hardly registered with me either. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- neal traven beisbol@alumni.pitt.edu "You're only young once, but you can be immature forever." -- Larry Andersen, relief pitcher From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 02:11:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8Q7BMtS026881 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 02:11:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 49B241E6000A; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 02:10:35 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D381E60009 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 02:10:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0017CC7C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 3:06:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12355726 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 03:06:30 -0400 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:MSLdu008udcK0/b71LiRVvhEg7L3SAcM@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8Q76Uv30112 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 03:06:30 -0400 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1054730125 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 00:06:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E5CF2382C for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 00:06:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030925234340.029f4510@mail.comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: The sunrise is going down quickly X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Jon-Carroll: We live in a culture of lies Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 00:06:26 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: chopped liver, officially Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >That is, unless someone had something in the works for the next ten minutes >or so. > >No prob, though, since it hardly registered with me either. > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >neal traven beisbol@alumni.pitt.edu And to think that some people think that JMW is cryptic! Did your coach turn into a pumpkin tonight? If not, whose liver was chopped? Ken Miller Enigmatological Correspondent The Lostin Times From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 02:14:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8Q7EetS026893 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 02:14:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 38DC31E6000B; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 02:13:53 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08CD21E6000A for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 02:13:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D9BD8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 3:09:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12355796 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 03:09:54 -0400 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:WgkHwPvYb4ZvgnR4JifxTu2bTOxrF1Ui@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8Q79sv30291 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 03:09:54 -0400 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B002F30546 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 00:09:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 223632382C for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 00:09:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030925234340.029f4510@mail.comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: The sunrise is going down quickly X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Jon-Carroll: We live in a culture of lies Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 00:09:49 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: chopped liver, officially Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >That is, unless someone had something in the works for the next ten minutes >or so. > >No prob, though, since it hardly registered with me either. > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >neal traven beisbol@alumni.pitt.edu The quarter finally fell. Happy belated birthday, Chopped Liver! Ken Miller U.S. Natal Observatory From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 03:01:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8Q81ftS027411 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 03:01:41 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4A6851E60010; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 03:00:53 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E6671E6000C for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 03:00:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0017CCC5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 3:56:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12356798 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 03:56:54 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8Q7usv00865 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 03:56:54 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h8Q7uqRP030879 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:56:52 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h8Q7upiG030877 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:56:51 +0200 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:56:51 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Schiphol Question Message-ID: <20030926075651.GA30871@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3F73777C.6009E71E@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F73777C.6009E71E@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor: = Is it true that in the men's restrooms at Schiphol Airport there's a fly = painted on the porcelain at the bottom of every urinal to improve one's = aim? = I have heard this before, but have neither been in the men's rooms or asked Patrick. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 05:45:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QAjdtS028967 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 05:45:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0AA361E60024; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 05:44:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE5AF1E60023 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 05:44:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009D9D78@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 6:40:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12359263 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 06:40:52 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QAeqv10300 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 06:40:52 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.198]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030926104046.TDKX1781.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 06:40:46 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7417AE.B22ED494@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 05:40:46 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Oh, Doris! References: <20030926023834.40453.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > As a matter of fact, I made arrangements just today to > be on vacation both Thanksgiving week and Christmas > week, which I don't think I've ever done before. But > I won't be going anywhere. I think I mentioned earlier that we have a whole week off for Thanksgiving this year, instead of our usual two days. That is mind-boggling to me -- and is what has made me think that maybe I should go somewhere. If it were just the usual Thursday and Friday, I wouldn't, since that's always a very busy time in the semester, with tons of stuff to get caught up on. > Okay, I'll bite. Who is Verdant, what is she that all > the swains adore her? Is she lush, leafy and green? Oh dear. Where does one begin to answer the question of Who is Verdant? Since I'm running a bit late this morning, maybe I'll leave it to others. If nobody comes through by the time I next check mail, I will try to answer the question. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 05:46:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QAkttS028990 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 05:46:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B60B21E60028; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 05:46:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 899A31E6001C for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 05:46:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0017CDEF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 6:42:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12359274 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 06:42:08 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QAg7v10388 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 06:42:07 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.198]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030926104202.TDOV1781.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 06:42:02 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7417FA.729E0DCE@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 05:42:02 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Oh, Doris! References: <20030926013304.95241.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20030925201727.00a57350@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > >I wonder if Verdant is having her xmas open house this year. That would > >be fun to go to. > > Come! But I think her open-house tradition has perhaps ended -- going away with the old house or with Jay. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 05:47:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QAlktS028999 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 05:47:46 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 03E2D1E60025; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 05:46:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC45B1E60024 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 05:46:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D9D5B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 6:42:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12359279 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 06:42:59 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QAgxv10418 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 06:42:59 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.198]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030926104253.TDSR1781.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 06:42:53 -0400 Message-ID: <3F74182D.D4F183AC@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 05:42:53 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: career changes and "studies" References: <4.2.2.20030914220813.00a3b1c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3F6528D3.CB980941@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20030914220813.00a3b1c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20030925203919.00a5c380@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > True. I joined Sandra's book club to do that. Where is Sandra? We're I was wondering that just a little while ago. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 05:49:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QAnJtS029012 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 05:49:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F291A1E60024; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 05:48:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5AE31E6001C for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 05:48:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009D9D7E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 6:44:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12359316 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 06:44:32 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QAiWv10581 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 06:44:32 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.198]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030926104426.TDYM1781.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 06:44:26 -0400 Message-ID: <3F74188A.22FDA617@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 05:44:26 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: chopped liver, officially References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bookrat wrote: > The quarter finally fell. Happy belated birthday, Chopped Liver! This is all Phyllis's fault! We have GOT to lure her back. A belated HB, CL. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 07:42:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QCgTtS030305 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 07:42:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8571B1E6009D; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 07:41:39 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52B561E6009C for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 07:41:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009D9FC1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 8:37:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12365289 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 08:37:40 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8QCbeE13590 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 08:37:40 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 08:37:42 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 08:37:37 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: a few hours early... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h8QCgTtS030305 L'Shana Tova to all to whom it is appropriate BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 08:19:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QDJTtS030659 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 08:19:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8D3F51E6009C; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 08:18:39 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 613651E6009E for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 08:18:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DA114@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 9:14:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12368416 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:14:40 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QDEeE21529 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:14:40 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-158-220.gwi.net [216.195.158.220]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h8QDEcQU035142 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:14:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030926090916.00b39d68@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:15:02 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Oh, Doris! In-Reply-To: <3F7417AE.B22ED494@maynor.net> References: <20030926023834.40453.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Okay, I'll bite. Who is Verdant, what is she that all > > the swains adore her? Is she lush, leafy and green? > >Oh dear. Where does one begin to answer the question of Who is >Verdant? Since I'm running a bit late this morning, maybe I'll leave it >to others. If nobody comes through by the time I next check mail, I >will try to answer the question. -- Natalie Verdant is a wordsler that I unwittingly drove away a number of months ago. Maybe a year ago. Also she's been very busy so maybe it's not completely my fault. Verdant is one of her pen names. She writes and publishes books on the kinky life style, mostly S&M. She and her partner, Jay, built and own the publishing company. They recently split up. Her real name is Janet Hardy. She lives in San Francisco, has two grown sons, and has a tittoo that many wordlsers have seen. It's a lady in the moon tattoed on her left breast. She often comes to ftf meetings in the Bay Area. Clyde and I met her in 1995 when we were out there for my 50th birthday. She added lots to list conversation. We were some of the very few straight and vanilla people she knows. I read and commented on the manuscript for her book about "When someone you know is kinky." She used to have an open house party every Christmas season for the kinky and/or homeless of the Bay Area. My guess is that she still have that party and that Natalie ought to go. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 08:21:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QDLGtS030667 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 08:21:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A5BFD1E6009D; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 08:20:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 753C31E6009C for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 08:20:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DA13D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 9:16:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12368501 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:16:27 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QDGRE21782 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:16:27 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-158-220.gwi.net [216.195.158.220]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h8QDGPYp068039 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:16:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030926091509.00b7ed58@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:16:50 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Natalie In-Reply-To: <3F7417AE.B22ED494@maynor.net> References: <20030926023834.40453.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I think I mentioned earlier that we have a whole week off for >Thanksgiving this year, instead of our usual two days. -- > -- Natalie I imagine it's out of the question that you would spend Thanksgiving or Christmas with your brother? Do you even talk to him now that your mother died? Did your mother's house sell? Are all the bills settled? Did anything ever happen to the day care workers that ripped her off? bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 08:59:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QDxftS031051 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 08:59:41 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2CA981E600A1; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 08:58:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F05B71E600A0 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 08:58:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DA34E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 9:54:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12373504 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:54:52 -0400 Received: from mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.45]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QDspE31511 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:54:51 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HLT009WZP2D01@mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:20:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.24] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:17:20 -0400 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:17:20 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: chopped liver, officially To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <25316e24c724.24c72425316e@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU How were we to even know you were in the room!!? Besides, all the birthday messages are a bore. But I hope you had a good one. Have you heard Los Lonely Boys? Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: Neal Traven Date: Friday, September 26, 2003 2:48 am Subject: chopped liver, officially > That is, unless someone had something in the works for the next > ten minutes > or so. > > No prob, though, since it hardly registered with me either. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- > neal traven > beisbol@alumni.pitt.edu "You're only young once, but you can be > immature forever." > -- Larry Andersen, relief pitcher > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 09:06:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QE6ftS031143 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:06:41 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BBB921E6009F; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:05:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89FB21E6009A for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:05:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DA3B4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:01:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12374320 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:01:52 -0400 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QE1qE01070 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:01:52 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.f7.30c6f8bf (4340) for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:01:42 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:01:42 EDT Subject: gone To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Robert Palmer ("Addicted to Love", "Simply Irresistible", and a member of Power Station) dead at 54. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 09:19:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QEJYtS031275 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:19:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 48E6E1E600A1; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:18:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AC761E600A0 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:18:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DA43E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:14:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12375764 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:14:45 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QEEjE04591 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:14:45 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0017D3C7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:14:45 -0400 Message-Id: <200309261414.h8QEEjE04591@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:14:45 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Ethan To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 18:14:53 -0700, Lynne Weber wrote: >> I'm glad mine weren't the only nerves upon which >> that grated. >> >> --Adam >> adamh1@comcast.net > >Yes. Clo, if that is an inflected verb, you'd best >delete it. > > Sorry? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 09:50:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QEowtS031607 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:50:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E0DAA1E60081; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:50:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B38CC1E60045 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:50:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DA58F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:46:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12378831 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:46:09 -0400 Received: from web20503.mail.yahoo.com (web20503.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.138]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8QEk8E12131 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:46:08 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 07:46:08 PDT Message-ID: <20030926144608.46543.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 07:46:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Oh, Doris! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030926090916.00b39d68@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > She added lots to list conversation. We were some > of the very few straight > and vanilla people she knows. I read and commented > on the manuscript for > her book about "When someone you know is kinky." > > She used to have an open house party every Christmas > season for the kinky > and/or homeless of the Bay Area. My guess is that > she still have that > party and that Natalie ought to go. > > > bonnie Natalie being neither kinky nor homeless, she would be attending in the guise of mutant. Verdant may have posted once or twice since I've been hanging around. I remember a post about learning to date straight guys. Could that have been Verdant? Bonnie, you and Clyde should write a book together. Clyde might write the exposition, and you the color. 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Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 09:54:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QEsYtS031670 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:54:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 821161E60099; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:53:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42FE21E60081 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:53:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0017D551@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:49:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12379050 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:49:45 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QEnjE12826 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:49:45 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8QEngW1001052 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 07:49:42 -0700 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8QEnfWq001029; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 07:49:42 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20030926074803.00a6b340@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 07:48:17 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: career changes and "studies" In-Reply-To: <3F74182D.D4F183AC@maynor.net> References: <4.2.2.20030914220813.00a3b1c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3F6528D3.CB980941@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20030914220813.00a3b1c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20030925203919.00a5c380@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:42 AM 9/26/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty wrote: > > > True. I joined Sandra's book club to do that. Where is Sandra? We're > >I was wondering that just a little while ago. And where is Karen? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 09:55:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QEtvtS031675 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:55:57 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1589D1E600A1; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:55:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBAD51E60099 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:55:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DA5D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:51:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12379147 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:51:08 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QEp8E13092 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:51:08 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8QEp3W1003260 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 07:51:03 -0700 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8QEp3Wq003241 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 07:51:03 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20030926074904.00a5c030@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 07:49:38 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: chopped liver, officially In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030925234340.029f4510@mail.comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Happy Day! Are you coming down to Janet's party? We can celebrate then. Betty At 11:48 PM 9/25/2003 -0700, you wrote: >That is, unless someone had something in the works for the next ten minutes >or so. > >No prob, though, since it hardly registered with me either. > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >neal traven beisbol@alumni.pitt.edu > "You're only young once, but you can be immature forever." > -- Larry Andersen, relief pitcher From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 09:57:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QEvXtS031680 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:57:33 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5F46D1E600A1; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:56:43 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 284D51E60099 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:56:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DA5DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:52:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12379353 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:52:44 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QEqiE13465 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:52:44 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8QEqgW1005057 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 07:52:42 -0700 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8QEqfWq005041 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 07:52:42 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20030926075052.00a6f7f0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 07:51:17 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Oh, Doris! In-Reply-To: <3F7417AE.B22ED494@maynor.net> References: <20030926023834.40453.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:40 AM 9/26/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Lynne Weber wrote: > > > As a matter of fact, I made arrangements just today to > > be on vacation both Thanksgiving week and Christmas > > week, which I don't think I've ever done before. But > > I won't be going anywhere. > >I think I mentioned earlier that we have a whole week off for >Thanksgiving this year, instead of our usual two days. That is >mind-boggling to me -- and is what has made me think that maybe I should >go somewhere. If it were just the usual Thursday and Friday, I >wouldn't, since that's always a very busy time in the semester, with >tons of stuff to get caught up on. > > > Okay, I'll bite. Who is Verdant, what is she that all > > the swains adore her? Is she lush, leafy and green? > >Oh dear. Where does one begin to answer the question of Who is >Verdant? Since I'm running a bit late this morning, maybe I'll leave it >to others. If nobody comes through by the time I next check mail, I >will try to answer the question. Isn't her web page something like www.greenerypress.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 09:58:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QEwTtS031689 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:58:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BC6771E600A2; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:57:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F5621E60099 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:57:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0017D569@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:53:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12379405 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:53:40 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QErcE13570 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:53:38 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8QErKW1005791; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 07:53:20 -0700 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8QErJWq005755; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 07:53:19 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20030926075133.00a63a90@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 07:51:55 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Oh, Doris! In-Reply-To: <3F7417FA.729E0DCE@maynor.net> References: <20030926013304.95241.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20030925201727.00a57350@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:42 AM 9/26/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Betty wrote: > > >I wonder if Verdant is having her xmas open house this year. That would > > >be fun to go to. > > > > Come! > >But I think her open-house tradition has perhaps ended -- going away >with the old house or with Jay. > She could start again! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 10:00:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QF0HtS031725 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:00:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8CECF1E600A1; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:59:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5882D1E60099 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:59:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0017D583@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:55:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12379580 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:55:27 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QEtRE13839 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:55:27 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8QEtBUZ012055 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 07:55:11 -0700 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8QEtAJC012046 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 07:55:11 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20030926075247.00a60510@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 07:53:46 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Oh, Doris! In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030926090916.00b39d68@pop.gwi.net> References: <3F7417AE.B22ED494@maynor.net> <20030926023834.40453.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:15 AM 9/26/2003 -0400, you wrote: >> > Okay, I'll bite. Who is Verdant, what is she that all >> > the swains adore her? Is she lush, leafy and green? >> >>Oh dear. Where does one begin to answer the question of Who is >>Verdant? Since I'm running a bit late this morning, maybe I'll leave it >>to others. If nobody comes through by the time I next check mail, I >>will try to answer the question. -- Natalie > >Verdant is a wordsler that I unwittingly drove away a number of months >ago. Maybe a year ago. Also she's been very busy so maybe it's not >completely my fault. Verdant is one of her pen names. She writes and >publishes books on the kinky life style, mostly S&M. She and her partner, >Jay, built and own the publishing company. They recently split up. I don't believe you had anything to do with Janet leaving for a while. Life got overwhelming and busy. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 10:32:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QFWWtS032037 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:32:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CE11D1E600A2; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:31:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95C281E6001B for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:31:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DA741@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 11:27:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12382812 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 11:27:42 -0400 Received: from web20509.mail.yahoo.com (web20509.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.144]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8QFRgE20176 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 11:27:42 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20509.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 08:27:41 PDT Message-ID: <20030926152741.95276.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 08:27:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Oh, Doris! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20030926075052.00a6f7f0@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Oh dear. Where does one begin to answer the > question of Who is > >Verdant? Since I'm running a bit late this > morning, maybe I'll leave it > >to others. If nobody comes through by the time I > next check mail, I > >will try to answer the question. > > Isn't her web page something like www.greenerypress.com Oh, yeah. That's it, alright. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 10:51:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QFpmtS032226 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:51:48 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D70E91E6001B; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:50:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C1261E60015 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:50:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DA806@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 11:46:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12384513 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 11:46:59 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QFkwE23131 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 11:46:58 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.72.190]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HLTVKV02.5MK for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 08:41:19 -0700 Message-ID: <3F745EBB.E3DC9854@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 08:43:56 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: One way to solve it Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Monday, September 1 12:32 a.m. A Panorama Drive woman noticed someone either laying or > lying on the ground getting the merry crap kicked out of them by several folks circled around. It was > just party-time fun, and pretty soon everyone left. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 10:57:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QFvWtS032297 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:57:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6F3001E600A4; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:56:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4189E1E600A3 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:56:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DA84B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 11:52:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12384113 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 11:52:08 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QFg7E22331 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 11:42:08 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8QFfwPi003811 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 11:42:00 -0400 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 11:41:58 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: packed - mostly! In-Reply-To: <3F737836.51C51C58@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3F7176AB.F1836B9E@maynor.net> <3F721877.884AC2D1@maynor.net> <3F737836.51C51C58@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: hits=-2 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 25 Sep 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >But you don't take everything you own with you when you travel, do you? >I did not pack the things I was going to be needing during that last >month or so. When I travel, I make use of other people's dishes, furniture, towels, etc. If all those things were packed, I would find it very hard to function at home. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 11:22:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QGMStS032512 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 11:22:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0682B1E600A2; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 11:21:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE6BB1E60016 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 11:21:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DA93F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:17:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12386945 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:17:37 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QGHZE28295 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:17:35 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-158-220.gwi.net [216.195.158.220]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h8QGHXQU061102 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:17:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030926121724.00ba3c00@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:17:58 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: career changes and "studies" In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20030926074803.00a6b340@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <3F74182D.D4F183AC@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20030914220813.00a3b1c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3F6528D3.CB980941@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20030914220813.00a3b1c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20030925203919.00a5c380@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> > True. I joined Sandra's book club to do that. Where is Sandra? We're >> >>I was wondering that just a little while ago. > >And where is Karen? >Betty Marty and Tushar drove her away. She said something about suicide. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 11:24:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QGOmtS032530 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 11:24:48 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7AA071E600A2; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 11:23:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49FF81E60016 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 11:23:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0017D8DE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:19:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12386604 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:19:58 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QG9vE27371 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:09:57 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8QG9vPi012514 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:09:57 -0400 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:09:57 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: chopped liver, officially In-Reply-To: <3F74188A.22FDA617@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3F74188A.22FDA617@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: hits=-2 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 26 Sep 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >A belated HB, CL. Indeed. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 11:35:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QGZgtS032640 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 11:35:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5DD9E1E600A5; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 11:34:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D2E71E600A4 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 11:34:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DA9D4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:30:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12387759 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:30:52 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QGKqE29030 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:20:52 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8QGKoPi015408 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:20:50 -0400 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:20:50 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: le weekend Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: hits=0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU no telephone service yet - strange electric teevee lineup - don't use too much bandwidth this weekend! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 11:51:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QGpRtS032767 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 11:51:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E86A51E600A5; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 11:50:35 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B98A11E600A4 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 11:50:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DAAA3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:46:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12390135 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:46:37 -0400 Received: from tharminc.blockade.com ([216.18.57.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QGkaE00996 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:46:36 -0400 Received: from Spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31) ID MO000045; 26 Sep 03 12:46:22 -0400 Received: from spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31); 26 Sep 03 12:46:10 -0400 Received: from tharminc2 (127.0.0.1) by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31) with ESMTP ID MG000044; 26 Sep 03 12:46:00 -0400 From: "Tony Harminc" To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:46:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Schiphol Question Message-ID: <3F743508.25105.47EF85E6@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3F73777C.6009E71E@maynor.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, September 25, 2003 at 18:17, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Is it true that in the men's restrooms at Schiphol Airport there's a fly > painted on the porcelain at the bottom of every urinal to improve one's > aim? Isn't there some UL about this... I don't find it on Google immediately, but I seem to remember something about a bee painted on/in urinals, with some pun about the Latin for bee being "apis". Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 12:17:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QHHetS000587 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:17:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CDB871E600A2; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:16:48 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99C931E60016 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:16:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DABC5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 13:12:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12392921 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 13:12:50 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QHCnE05681 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 13:12:49 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h8QHCmRP032126 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 19:12:48 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h8QHClv3032124 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 19:12:47 +0200 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 19:12:47 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Schiphol Question Message-ID: <20030926171247.GB32100@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3F73777C.6009E71E@maynor.net> <3F743508.25105.47EF85E6@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F743508.25105.47EF85E6@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tony Harminc: = On Thursday, September 25, 2003 at 18:17, Natalie Maynor wrote: = = > Is it true that in the men's restrooms at Schiphol Airport there's a fly = > painted on the porcelain at the bottom of every urinal to improve one's = > aim? = = Isn't there some UL about this... I don't find it on Google = immediately, but I seem to remember something about a bee painted = on/in urinals, with some pun about the Latin for bee being "apis". = = Tony H. It's not a UL, it's a UI! http://maddog.weblogs.com/stories/storyReader$68 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 12:27:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QHROtS000755 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:27:24 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 37F851E600A8; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:26:33 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC8C31E600A2 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:26:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DAC26@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 13:22:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12393686 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 13:22:34 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QHMYE07081 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 13:22:34 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.23) id 1A2wJK-0007rA-HX for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 13:23:19 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030926102202.039fad10@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:24:51 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Schiphol Question In-Reply-To: <20030926171247.GB32100@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3F743508.25105.47EF85E6@localhost> <3F73777C.6009E71E@maynor.net> <3F743508.25105.47EF85E6@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph writes, >It's not a UL, it's a UI! If you Google , you get a fair number of hits. There is also Wigan Town Hall : "The building also boasts an intriguing facility of another kind... two Edwardian gents' urinals. These have a small picture of a bee etched into their glaze... " Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 12:54:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QHs6tS000956 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:54:06 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 825AA1E600A8; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:53:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54E7B1E600A2 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:53:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DAD3C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 13:49:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12396119 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 13:49:15 -0400 Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com (web20502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8QHnFE10753 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 13:49:15 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:49:11 PDT Message-ID: <20030926174911.49558.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:49:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: career changes and "studies" To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030926121724.00ba3c00@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Marty and Tushar drove her away. She said something > about suicide. > > > bonnie I first glance, I thought you meant they literally drove her away - put her in the car and took off. Better drag Lake Michigan. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 12:54:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QHsYtS000960 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:54:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 317BA1E600A8; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:53:43 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 028591E600A2 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:53:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DAD3D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 13:49:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12396139 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 13:49:44 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QHniE10838 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 13:49:44 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8QHncI26453 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:49:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 667E516B4; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:49:38 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:49:38 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Oh, Doris! Message-ID: <20030926174938.GA25228@pobox.com> References: <20030926023834.40453.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20030926090916.00b39d68@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030926090916.00b39d68@pop.gwi.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-26 | bonniev writes: > Verdant is a wordsler that I unwittingly drove away Hokae ... if you insist From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 12:55:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QHtgtS000974 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:55:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C60661E600A8; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:54:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A0861E600A2 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:54:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DAD44@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 13:50:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12396195 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 13:50:46 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QHokE11004 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 13:50:46 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8QHojI27902 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:50:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id AA26C16B4; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:50:42 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:50:42 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Oh, Doris! Message-ID: <20030926175042.GB25228@pobox.com> References: <5.1.1.5.2.20030926075052.00a6f7f0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <20030926152741.95276.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030926152741.95276.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-26 | Lynne Weber writes: > > Isn't her web page something like www.greenerypress.com > > Oh, yeah. That's it, alright. You Have Been Had [tm] Hope that helps ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 12:57:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QHvYtS000979 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:57:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 755C21E600A9; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:56:42 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 454DF1E600A8 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:56:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DAD5A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 13:52:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12396415 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 13:52:43 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QHqhE11462 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 13:52:43 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8QHqgI29390 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:52:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id BFB0516B4; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:52:42 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:52:42 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: career changes and "studies" Message-ID: <20030926175242.GC25228@pobox.com> References: <3F74182D.D4F183AC@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20030914220813.00a3b1c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3F6528D3.CB980941@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20030914220813.00a3b1c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20030925203919.00a5c380@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20030926121724.00ba3c00@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030926121724.00ba3c00@pop.gwi.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-26 | bonniev writes: > >>> True. I joined Sandra's book club to do that. Where is Sandra? We're > >> > >>I was wondering that just a little while ago. > > > >And where is Karen? > >Betty > > Marty and Tushar drove her away. She said something about suicide. Sorry, it was you. The problem is you say whatever the hell you want without thinking. It's a repulsive quality. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 12:59:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QHx7tS000995 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:59:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 485801E600A9; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:58:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C7161E600A8 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:58:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DAD69@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 13:54:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12396553 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 13:54:17 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QHs8E11699 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 13:54:08 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-158-220.gwi.net [216.195.158.220]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h8QHs4Yr016055; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 13:54:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030926135242.00b1fe08@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 13:53:58 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: career changes and "studies" In-Reply-To: <20030926174911.49558.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030926121724.00ba3c00@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:49 AM 9/26/2003 -0700, Lynne Weber wrote: >I first glance, I thought you meant they literally >drove her away - put her in the car and took off. >Better drag Lake Michigan. I rather doubt that she is contemplating suicide---and even so, presumably there are appropriate bodies of water nearer Austin than is Lake Michigan. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 13:45:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QIjjtS001415 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 13:45:45 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CABB01E600AF; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 13:44:53 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ABB51E600AD for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 13:44:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DAF82@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:40:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12401121 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:40:54 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8QIesE19132 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:40:54 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:40:55 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:40:32 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: career changes and "studies" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h8QIjjtS001415 Did you think of asking her directly? Just because she isn't posting to the list doesn't mean she has ceased to exist. :-) BrP >>> bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU 09/26/03 10:48AM >>> At 05:42 AM 9/26/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty wrote: > > > True. I joined Sandra's book club to do that. Where is Sandra? We're > >I was wondering that just a little while ago. And where is Karen? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 13:55:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QIt9tS001450 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 13:55:09 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0A6371E600B0; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 13:54:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3FE01E600AF for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 13:54:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DB00D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:50:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12402227 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:50:18 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QIoHE20694 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:50:17 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8QIo1UZ012361 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 11:50:01 -0700 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8QIo0JC012333 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 11:50:01 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20030926114532.00a4ad00@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 11:48:36 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: career changes and "studies" In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Of course. I've been no mail for a while and thought I missed an announcement or something. It's always MFTATL. How was your trip? Betty At 02:40 PM 9/26/2003 -0400, you wrote: >Did you think of asking her directly? > >Just because she isn't posting to the list doesn't mean she has ceased to >exist. > >:-) > >BrP > > > > > >>> bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU 09/26/03 10:48AM >>> >At 05:42 AM 9/26/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >Betty wrote: > > > > > True. I joined Sandra's book club to do that. Where is Sandra? We're > > > >I was wondering that just a little while ago. > >And where is Karen? > >Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 13:58:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QIwvtS001483 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 13:58:57 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2089C1E600B0; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 13:58:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBA3F1E600AF for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 13:58:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DB032@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:54:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12402645 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:54:06 -0400 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8QIs5E21222 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:54:05 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 11:54:05 PDT Message-ID: <20030926185405.62134.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 11:54:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Paging Ms. Kay To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Please materialize. 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Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 14:04:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QJ4WtS001561 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:04:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EB7ED1E600B0; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:03:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD0F1E600AF for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:03:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DB07E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:59:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12403252 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:59:42 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QIxfE22240 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:59:41 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.146.66]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030926185936.BUIL1781.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:59:36 -0400 Message-ID: <3F748C98.36E160B8@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 13:59:36 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Oh, Doris! References: <20030926023834.40453.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20030926090916.00b39d68@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Verdant is a wordsler that I unwittingly drove away a number of months > ago. Maybe a year ago. Also she's been very busy so maybe it's not I didn't remember that you drove her away. > completely my fault. Verdant is one of her pen names. She writes and > publishes books on the kinky life style, mostly S&M. She and her partner, > Jay, built and own the publishing company. They recently split up. And we have Verdant to thank for our being meebers. > She used to have an open house party every Christmas season for the kinky > and/or homeless of the Bay Area. My guess is that she still have that > party and that Natalie ought to go. ? I don't remember that it had anything to do with homelessness. I thought it was an open house for their friends. And I think she invited all of us one year. But then she moved and quit having it. Or at least I remember her saying she didn't have it last year. That was her first xmas in the new place, wasn't it? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 14:11:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QJBBtS001605 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:11:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 22CC91E600B0; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:10:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B37341E600AF for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:10:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DB0CE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:06:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12403775 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:06:11 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QJ5eE23180 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:05:40 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.146.66]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030926190535.BXCQ1781.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:05:35 -0400 Message-ID: <3F748DFF.AAB3FD68@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:05:35 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie References: <20030926023834.40453.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20030926091509.00b7ed58@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > I imagine it's out of the question that you would spend Thanksgiving or > Christmas with your brother? I don't know that it would be "out of the question," but I think it is highly unlikely. They do Thanksgiving at their house in Hville, with a bunch of my RRSIL's relatives, and they spend Christmas at their house in Vail. I do not foresee being invited to either of those events, nor would I particularly like to be. We find each other boring since we don't share any interests or values or activities or even memories since my RRB seems to have no memories. > Do you even talk to him now that your mother > died? Not sense we finished the few required communications re finishing all the business. > Did your mother's house sell? Yes. That was a long time ago. > Are all the bills settled? Afaik. > Did > anything ever happen to the day care workers that ripped her off? Not that I know of. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 14:11:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QJBptS001619 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:11:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 28F521E600AF; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:10:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7F021E600AD for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:10:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DB0D4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:06:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12403917 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:07:00 -0400 Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QJ6vE23396 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:06:58 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.182.20cb6477 (4380) for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:06:49 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <182.20cb6477.2ca5e849@aol.com> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:06:49 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] le weekend To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm glad when something breaks down it happens on my day off so that I can take care of it as soon as possible. My VCR acted up today: it wouldn't play, and, when I tried to rewind, I got three addresses on the screen with the contents in binary. So, since I had the two-year Protection Plan, I put it and its accessories back in the box (which Daisy had partially chewed up), and carted it on the bus back to Sears. Annegret was the only one covering electronics (pretty soon, she'll be the only one covering Brand Central, and that's what she wants). So I was forced to have her help me. I exchanged them and had her print the ticket out so that I could pick up the new one from Package Pick Up. Then went to B. Dalton's and noticed that the 2004 Wicca Datebook and 2004 Magickal Guide were both out and made a note to get them after the next payday. Ate lunch at the Chinese restaurant in the food court, and then went to pick up the VCR. I stopped at the FYE and bought Vol. 1 of Big O (my favorite anime; I love Dorothy and find the thought of a whole land with amnesia fascinating due to the effects Prozac had on my memory). Picked up the VCR, came home, and fed Daisy. And that's my day so far; how's yours? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 14:14:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QJE8tS001639 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:14:08 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B07891E600B1; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:13:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82E991E600B0 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:13:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DB116@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:09:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12404174 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:09:17 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QJ9HE23748 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:09:17 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.146.66]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030926190912.BYSP1781.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:09:12 -0400 Message-ID: <3F748ED8.336C834D@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:09:12 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Oh, Doris! References: <20030926144608.46543.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Verdant may have posted once or twice since I've been > hanging around. I remember a post about learning to > date straight guys. Could that have been Verdant? She posted an update on her life not all that long ago. I can't remember specifically the part about dating straight guys, but that was likely the posting you're remembering. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 14:15:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QJF9tS001664 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:15:09 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 96A741E600B1; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:14:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ECED1E600AF for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:14:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DB10D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:10:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12404233 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:10:18 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QJAIE23871 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:10:18 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.146.66]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030926191012.BZEF1781.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:10:12 -0400 Message-ID: <3F748F15.179A41CF@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:10:13 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Oh, Doris! References: <20030926023834.40453.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> <5.1.1.5.2.20030926075052.00a6f7f0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > Isn't her web page something like www.greenerypress.com But I bet it doesn't give the complete picture of the Verdant we know -- things like her Betty Crocker past. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 14:16:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QJGqtS001685 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:16:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 054511E600B0; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:16:00 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCDBF1E600AF for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:15:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DB126@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:12:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12404321 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:12:01 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8QJC0E24103 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:12:01 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:12:00 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:11:43 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: another one gone Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h8QJGqtS001685 George Plimpton at 76 BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 14:19:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QJJ6tS001692 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:19:06 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C92EE1E600B1; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:18:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 933951E600B0 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:18:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DB12C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:14:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12404514 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:14:15 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8QJEFE24459 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:14:15 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:14:16 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:14:01 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: career changes and "studies" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h8QJJ6tS001692 It was wonerful. I do love Portland and I do love spending time with my totally awesome daughter and her totally awesome partner. I managed to acquire a nasty cold - VERY unusual for me - but I had a great time anyway. BrP >>> bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU 09/26/03 02:48PM >>> Of course. I've been no mail for a while and thought I missed an announcement or something. It's always MFTATL. How was your trip? Betty At 02:40 PM 9/26/2003 -0400, you wrote: >Did you think of asking her directly? > >Just because she isn't posting to the list doesn't mean she has ceased to >exist. > >:-) > >BrP > > > > > >>> bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU 09/26/03 10:48AM >>> >At 05:42 AM 9/26/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >Betty wrote: > > > > > True. I joined Sandra's book club to do that. Where is Sandra? We're > > > >I was wondering that just a little while ago. > >And where is Karen? > >Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 14:20:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QJKMtS001700 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:20:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 013511E600B0; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:19:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8BB11E600AF for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:19:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DB13E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:15:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12404800 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:15:31 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QJFUE24959 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:15:30 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.146.66]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030926191525.CBNH1781.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:15:25 -0400 Message-ID: <3F74904D.1DB26AE0@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:15:25 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: packed - mostly! References: <3F7176AB.F1836B9E@maynor.net> <3F721877.884AC2D1@maynor.net> <3F737836.51C51C58@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >But you don't take everything you own with you when you travel, do you? > >I did not pack the things I was going to be needing during that last > >month or so. > > When I travel, I make use of other people's dishes, furniture, towels, > etc. If all those things were packed, I would find it very hard to > function at home. That was meant to be an example of how we do not use all of our possessions all the time. It was not to suggest that you leave unpacked before a move precisely those items you would take on a trip. In addition to a few clothes, cosmetics, etc., I left unpacked a plate, a glass, a fork, a couple of towels and wash cloths, a set of sheets, etc. It was still, however, no more than would fit into a suitcase -- as opposed to the stacks of packed boxes containing everything else. That system also worked well for arrival in this house. I didn't need to search through boxes the first day to find essentials since the bare essentials were separate from the other stuff. Re furniture (in what you said above), I didn't pack furniture. I didn't have boxes that large. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 14:28:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QJSEtS001773 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:28:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 07C9A1E600B2; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:27:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A781E600B1 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:27:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DB197@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:23:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12405499 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:23:23 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QJNME26346 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:23:22 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.146.66]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030926192317.CFGP1781.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:23:17 -0400 Message-ID: <3F749225.4B607C9A@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:23:17 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: le weekend References: <182.20cb6477.2ca5e849@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > And that's my day so far; how's yours? Mine has been pleasant so far: did some work in my office, found out the names of two new faculty wives that I couldn't remember (need them for the shower invitations), taught class, ate lunch with my friends, took my car through a car-wash because I was tired of the bird doodoo that has been all over it for weeks now, went by a lawyer's office to pick up the "Barbara Blackmon for Lt. Governor" bumper stickers that I'd gotten a phone message saying were in, came home and turned on the computer much earlier than usual. Need to do various tasks soon, though. Iow, I'm not settling in in front of the computer for the duration. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 14:31:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QJVGtS001819 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:31:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 86DB91E600B4; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:30:24 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59A8D1E600B3 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:30:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DB194@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:26:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12405641 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:26:25 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QJQPE26776 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:26:25 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8QJQPn26022 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:26:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id E424B16B4; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:26:24 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:26:24 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: career changes and "studies" Message-ID: <20030926192624.GA11886@pobox.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-26 | Paul Barfoot writes: > Just because she isn't posting to the list doesn't mean > she has ceased to exist. I have never heard a syllogism this ridiculous. Cite please From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 14:32:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QJWXtS001836 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:32:33 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 090D51E600B2; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:31:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD3841E600B1 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:31:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DB1A0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:27:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12405724 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:27:42 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QJRfE26998 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:27:42 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8QJRfn27083 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:27:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 7E20516B4; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:27:41 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:27:41 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Oh, Doris! Message-ID: <20030926192741.GB11886@pobox.com> References: <20030926023834.40453.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> <5.1.1.5.2.20030926075052.00a6f7f0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3F748F15.179A41CF@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F748F15.179A41CF@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-26 | Natalie Maynor writes: > Betty Clark wrote: > > > Isn't her web page something like www.greenerypress.com > > But I bet it doesn't give the complete picture of the Verdant we know -- > things like her Betty Crocker past. Her, uh, vehemence is clear sign of the Betty Crocker past. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 14:36:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QJaptS001874 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:36:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5CE021E600B3; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:35:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E2E81E600B1 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:35:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DB1C5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:32:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12406042 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:32:00 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QJW0E27711 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:32:00 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8QJVxn01017 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:31:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id A40A316B4; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:31:59 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:31:59 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paging Ms. Kay Message-ID: <20030926193159.GC11886@pobox.com> References: <20030926185405.62134.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030926185405.62134.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-26 | Lynne Weber writes: > Please materialize. We have been punished long enough. I didn't realize it was for punishment. I'd need more time to feel punished, please ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 14:42:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QJgrtS001945 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:42:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BABC51E600B3; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:42:00 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 896B81E600B1 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:42:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0017E0B7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:38:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12406537 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:38:01 -0400 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8QJc1E28719 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:38:01 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:38:00 PDT Message-ID: <20030926193800.63504.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:38:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Paging Ms. Kay To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20030926193159.GC11886@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Tushar Samant wrote: > 02003-09-26 | Lynne Weber > writes: > > Please materialize. We have been punished long > enough. > > I didn't realize it was for punishment. I'd need > more time > to feel punished, please ... Quiet, please. I'm trying reverse psychology. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 14:53:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QJrjtS002031 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:53:45 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E0D801E600B1; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:52:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98E191E6006B for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:52:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0017E0FC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:48:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12407343 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:48:53 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QJmrE30540 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:48:53 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0017E10F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:48:53 -0400 Message-Id: <200309261948.h8QJmrE30540@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:48:53 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Paging Ms. Kay To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:38:00 -0700, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Tushar Samant wrote: >> 02003-09-26 | Lynne Weber >> writes: >> > Please materialize. We have been punished long >> enough. >> >> I didn't realize it was for punishment. I'd need >> more time >> to feel punished, please ... > >Quiet, please. I'm trying reverse psychology. > It does seem to be the reverse of psychology. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 14:56:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QJuBtS002133 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:56:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 136F01E600B1; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:55:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCE4E1E6006B for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:55:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0017E121@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:51:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12407619 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:51:12 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QJpBE31138 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:51:11 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0017E115@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:51:11 -0400 Message-Id: <200309261951.h8QJpBE31138@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:51:11 -0400 From: Neal Traven Subject: Re: chopped liver, officially To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Cc: Neal Traven Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Combining replies: On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 07:49:38 -0700, Betty Clark wrote: >Happy Day! Are you coming down to Janet's party? We can celebrate then. > >Betty I might, if I knew anything about it. When? Where? ********** On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:17:20 -0400, Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote: >How were we to even know you were in the room!!? Besides, all the birthday >messages are a bore. But I hope you had a good one. Good point. I hadn't been in the room for a while, though I did hear a little about wordsler activities last weekend. I checked traffic yesterday, first wondering the HBD would show up, and eventually wondering . In all honesty, it was just another day-in-the-life. As I said in my blog, why should the world bother with my birday when it hardly even acknowledges all the people I share it with, or the historical events on the same date (see http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_25). For example, it would have been worthwhile to note the 214th anniversary of the passage of the Bill of Rights by the US Congress (no celebration on John Ashcroft's calendar, I'm sure). >Have you heard Los Lonely Boys? > >Marie No. Should I have? ********** Thanks also to Boo, Natalie, and Bethany for their greetings. BTW, Natalie, does G. Gordon Liddy have any reputation for wordsmithery? It's been reported that he was the speaker the first time someone heard "package" as a description of a feature of Dubya's flight suit, and also that he was the speaker the first time someone heard an Attorney General misrepresented as "General" (long before Herr General Ashcroft). See http://bysandandsea.com/comments.php?id=789_0_1_0_C#comments for details. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- neal traven beisbol@alumni.pitt.edu "You're only young once, but you can be immature forever." -- Larry Andersen, relief pitcher From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 14:57:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QJvdtS002150 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:57:39 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C239A1E600B1; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:56:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB841E6006B for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:56:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DB2A8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:52:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12407750 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:52:47 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QJqlE31489 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:52:47 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0017E12C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:52:47 -0400 Message-Id: <200309261952.h8QJqlE31489@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:52:47 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: career changes and "studies" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:52:42 -0500, Tushar Samant wrote: >02003-09-26 | bonniev writes: >> >>> True. I joined Sandra's book club to do that. Where is Sandra? We're >> >> >> >>I was wondering that just a little while ago. >> > >> >And where is Karen? >> >Betty >> >> Marty and Tushar drove her away. She said something about suicide. > >Sorry, it was you. The problem is you say whatever the hell >you want without thinking. It's a repulsive quality. Whereas you say whatever the hell you want, with thinking? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 15:08:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QK8KtS002251 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:08:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 82B3D1E600B5; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:07:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F7741E600B1 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:07:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DB319@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:03:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12408906 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:03:29 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8QK3TE01219 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:03:29 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:03:29 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:03:09 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: career changes and "studies" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h8QK8KtS002251 I have spoken to her. Better yet, she has spoken to me. I cite myself. >>> scribble@POBOX.COM 09/26/03 03:26PM >>> 02003-09-26 | Paul Barfoot writes: > Just because she isn't posting to the list doesn't mean > she has ceased to exist. I have never heard a syllogism this ridiculous. Cite please From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 15:40:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QKeZtS002531 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:40:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E89FC1E600BB; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:39:42 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 962821E600B9 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:39:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DB452@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:35:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12411682 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:35:43 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QKZhE07528 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:35:43 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8QKZgn24633 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:35:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id C999A16B4; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:35:42 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:35:42 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: career changes and "studies" Message-ID: <20030926203542.GA23601@pobox.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-26 | Paul Barfoot writes: > I have spoken to her. Better yet, she has spoken to me. I cite myself. Excellent save! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 15:40:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QKextS002535 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:40:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 31CA11E600BC; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:40:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA281E600BB for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:40:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DB456@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:36:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12411715 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:36:08 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QKa7E07607 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:36:07 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8QKa7n25070 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:36:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 4A52C16B4; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:36:07 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:36:07 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: career changes and "studies" Message-ID: <20030926203607.GB23601@pobox.com> References: <200309261952.h8QJqlE31489@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200309261952.h8QJqlE31489@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-26 | Carolyn Ostrander writes: > >> Marty and Tushar drove her away. She said something about suicide. > > > >Sorry, it was you. The problem is you say whatever the hell > >you want without thinking. It's a repulsive quality. > > Whereas you say whatever the hell you want, with thinking? I'll let you know in a week or so. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 15:58:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QKwZtS002703 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:58:36 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0F3981E600BC; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:57:43 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D49951E6006A for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:57:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0017E3BC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:53:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12415045 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:53:42 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QKrfE13762 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:53:42 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 072352B585; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 13:53:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE882B572 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 13:53:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 13:53:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: All Ashore! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU They still say that on my ferry. Isn't that cute? Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 16:06:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QL6htS002794 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:06:43 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 680E21E600C1; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:05:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 391161E600BB for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:05:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0017E45F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:01:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12416719 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:01:51 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QL1oE15872 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:01:50 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 3B7602B58B; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:01:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D0DA2B583 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:01:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:01:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: All Ashore! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU They should have something like that for airplanes. Like Hit the Dirt! or All Funnel Out! Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 16:08:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QL86tS002808 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:08:06 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5A05A1E600C1; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:07:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D6651E600BC for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:07:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DB66C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:03:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12417091 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:03:14 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QL3DE16279 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:03:14 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-158-220.gwi.net [216.195.158.220]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h8QL3CQU099055 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:03:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030926170319.00bb4fe0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:03:38 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: All Ashore! In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >They should have something like that for airplanes. Like Hit the Dirt! >or All Funnel Out! --Ann Or "Boots on the Ground". bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 16:14:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QLEktS002894 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:14:46 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 73BD31E600BC; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:13:53 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46D121E600BB for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:13:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DB6AE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:09:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12417735 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:09:54 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QL9sE17414 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:09:54 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id A5A842B58D; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:09:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 962002B563 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:09:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:09:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: All Ashore! In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030926170319.00bb4fe0@pop.gwi.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 26 Sep 2003, bonniev wrote: > >They should have something like that for airplanes. Like Hit the Dirt! > >or All Funnel Out! --Ann > > Or "Boots on the Ground". That's good! Shows the touch of Nunzilla. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 16:14:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QLEqtS002897 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:14:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 510DE1E600BC; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:13:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 241891E600BB for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:13:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0017E4D1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:10:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12417745 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:10:00 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QLA0E17437 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:10:00 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8QL9x8b016631 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:09:59 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.103]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h8QL9wfC006230 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:09:59 -0400 Message-ID: <004501c38472$8bc81670$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "Wordslurs" Subject: ew... road rash from the Segway... and an "upgrade" in progress Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:09:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Check out All Things Considered for today... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 16:27:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QLREtS003039 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:27:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0E7D51E600C2; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:26:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6AD51E600C1 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:26:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DB716@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:22:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12418755 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:22:23 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QLMME19825 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:22:22 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8QLMLUZ014781 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:22:21 -0700 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8QLMKJC014727; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:22:20 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20030926142011.00a659b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:20:55 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: career changes and "studies" In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:14 PM 9/26/2003 -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: >It was wonerful. I do love Portland and I do love spending time with my >totally awesome daughter and her totally awesome partner. I managed to >acquire a nasty cold - VERY unusual for me - but I had a great time anyway. > >BrP Oh, good. Both of the men in my life came home from Montana with colds. I'm fine. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 16:31:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QLVVtS003088 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:31:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BED971E600C4; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:30:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91E5C1E600C2 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:30:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DB743@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:26:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12419145 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:26:39 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QLQdE20394 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:26:39 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8QLQbW1006875 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:26:38 -0700 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8QLQbWq006852 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:26:37 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20030926142422.00a65b30@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:25:12 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: chopped liver, officially In-Reply-To: <200309261951.h8QJpBE31138@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:51 PM 9/26/2003 -0400, you wrote: >Combining replies: > >On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 07:49:38 -0700, Betty Clark > wrote: > > >Happy Day! Are you coming down to Janet's party? We can celebrate then. > > > >Betty > >I might, if I knew anything about it. When? Where? I'll have her send you one. October 12. 2 p.m. Betty >********** > >On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:17:20 -0400, Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> >wrote: > > >How were we to even know you were in the room!!? Besides, all the birthday > >messages are a bore. But I hope you had a good one. > >Good point. I hadn't been in the room for a while, though I did hear a >little about wordsler activities last weekend. I checked traffic >yesterday, first wondering the HBD would show up, and eventually >wondering . > >In all honesty, it was just another day-in-the-life. As I said in my blog, >why should the world bother with my birday when it hardly even acknowledges >all the people I share it with, or the historical events on the >same date (see http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_25). For example, >it would have been worthwhile to note the 214th anniversary of the passage >of the Bill of Rights by the US Congress (no celebration on John Ashcroft's >calendar, I'm sure). > > >Have you heard Los Lonely Boys? > > > >Marie > >No. Should I have? > > > >********** > >Thanks also to Boo, Natalie, and Bethany for their greetings. > >BTW, Natalie, does G. Gordon Liddy have any reputation for wordsmithery? > >It's been reported that he was the speaker the first time someone >heard "package" as a description of a feature of Dubya's flight suit, and >also that he was the speaker the first time someone heard an Attorney >General misrepresented as "General" (long before Herr General Ashcroft). >See http://bysandandsea.com/comments.php?id=789_0_1_0_C#comments for >details. > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >neal traven beisbol@alumni.pitt.edu > "You're only young once, but you can be immature forever." > -- Larry Andersen, relief pitcher From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 16:33:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QLXmtS003118 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:33:48 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1108E1E600C9; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:32:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D82C81E600C4 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:32:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DB75E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:28:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12419271 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:28:56 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QLStE20669 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:28:55 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8QLStHL010409 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:28:55 -0700 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8QLSrjD010371 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:28:54 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20030926142711.00a5a050@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:27:29 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Oh, Doris! In-Reply-To: <3F748C98.36E160B8@maynor.net> References: <20030926023834.40453.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20030926090916.00b39d68@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:59 PM 9/26/2003 -0500, you wrote: >bonniev wrote: > > > Verdant is a wordsler that I unwittingly drove away a number of months > > ago. Maybe a year ago. Also she's been very busy so maybe it's not > >I didn't remember that you drove her away. > > > completely my fault. Verdant is one of her pen names. She writes and > > publishes books on the kinky life style, mostly S&M. She and her partner, > > Jay, built and own the publishing company. They recently split up. > >And we have Verdant to thank for our being meebers. > > > She used to have an open house party every Christmas season for the kinky > > and/or homeless of the Bay Area. My guess is that she still have that > > party and that Natalie ought to go. > >? I don't remember that it had anything to do with homelessness. I >thought it was an open house for their friends. And I think she invited >all of us one year. But then she moved and quit having it. Or at least >I remember her saying she didn't have it last year. That was her first >xmas in the new place, wasn't it? She isn't doing it this year so you must come in October. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 16:44:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QLittS003250 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:44:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AD8BE1E600CB; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:44:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8103E1E600C9 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:44:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DB7C6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:40:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12420253 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:40:03 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QLe3E22168 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:40:03 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.146.66]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030926213958.VANP24914.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:39:58 -0400 Message-ID: <3F74B22E.8289DAA1@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:39:58 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: chopped liver, officially References: <200309261951.h8QJpBE31138@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Neal Traven wrote: > BTW, Natalie, does G. Gordon Liddy have any reputation for wordsmithery? Not that I know of. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 17:01:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QM1itS003467 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:01:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B9E5A1E600CE; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:00:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A2531E600CC for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:00:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DB855@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:56:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12421497 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:56:48 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QLumE24224 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:56:48 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-158-220.gwi.net [216.195.158.220]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h8QLuhYv051773; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:56:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030926175039.00b1fe08@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:51:35 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: career changes and "studies" In-Reply-To: <200309261952.h8QJqlE31489@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:52 PM 9/26/2003 -0400, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >Whereas you say whatever the hell you want, with thinking? You exhibit an excellent grasp of the situation. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 17:01:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QM1jtS003470 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:01:45 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EF78F1E600CE; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:00:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A623B1E600CB for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:00:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DB866@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:56:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12421501 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:56:50 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QLunE24229 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:56:49 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-158-220.gwi.net [216.195.158.220]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h8QLuhYx051773; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:56:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030926175236.00b44690@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:54:12 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: career changes and "studies" In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:03 PM 9/26/2003 -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: >I have spoken to her. Better yet, she has spoken to me. I cite myself. Barfoot, P. 2003. Zeitschrift fur Selbstsprechen. 24(3): 1009-1021. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 17:01:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QM1ktS003473 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:01:46 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 72DA61E600CB; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:00:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F9441E600CF for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:00:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DB848@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:56:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12421505 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:56:51 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QLupE24234 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:56:51 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-158-220.gwi.net [216.195.158.220]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h8QLuhZ1051773; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:56:50 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030926175541.00b54df8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:56:44 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: career changes and "studies" In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:14 PM 9/26/2003 -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: >It was wonerful. I do love Portland and I do love spending time with my >totally awesome daughter and her totally awesome partner. I managed to >acquire a nasty cold - VERY unusual for me - but I had a great time anyway. Did you get out to Cannon Beach? It's one of my daughter's favorite places---and mine as well. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 17:12:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QMCstS003578 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:12:54 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0FDA31E600CC; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:12:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D46D91E600CB for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:12:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DB8EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:08:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12422770 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:08:01 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QM81E25756 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:08:01 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.146.66]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030926220755.VEEN1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:07:55 -0400 Message-ID: <3F74B8BB.36347127@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:07:55 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Oh, Doris! References: <20030926023834.40453.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20030926090916.00b39d68@pop.gwi.net> <5.1.1.5.2.20030926142711.00a5a050@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > She isn't doing it this year so you must come in October. My October dance card is filled. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 17:33:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QMXqtS003810 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:33:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5ADE01E600CF; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:32:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A87D1E600CE for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:32:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0017E749@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:29:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12424024 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:29:00 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QMSxE27807 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:28:59 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h8QMSsRP032518 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 00:28:54 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h8QMSrjm032516 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 00:28:53 +0200 Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 00:28:53 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paging Ms. Kay Message-ID: <20030926222853.GA32510@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20030926185405.62134.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030926185405.62134.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber: = Please materialize. We have been punished long enough. = That should probably say, "We have been punish long enough". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 17:47:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QMlItS003973 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:47:18 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A89EC1E600D0; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:46:24 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C1A81E600CE for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:46:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DBA0B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:42:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12425474 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:42:25 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QMgPE29553 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:42:25 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-158-220.gwi.net [216.195.158.220]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h8QMgNYp057637 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:42:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030926184227.00badd00@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:42:50 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: All Ashore! In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030926170319.00bb4fe0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >That's good! Shows the touch of Nunzilla. >Ann Thanks again for that. I did pass it on to another ex-nun. She liked it. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 17:52:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QMq0tS004015 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:52:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3C7FF1E600D1; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:51:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C4CF1E600CE for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:51:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0017E803@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:47:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12425875 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:47:08 -0400 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QMl8E30142 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:47:08 -0400 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8QMl5sV7618806 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:47:06 -0500 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:47:05 -0500 (CDT) From: poor old johnny ray X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the Segway In-Reply-To: <004501c38472$8bc81670$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Message-ID: References: <004501c38472$8bc81670$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.0.4.76838 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU After 'lan: This reminds me, I saw my first Segway two weeks ago. (Quiet, you know I live in a backwater, and we don't get all these insanely great innovations that will revolutionize our culture until a few weeks after you all.) Apparently Loyola has outfitted its police force with at least one of the preposterous things. My other employers seem to have been able to resist the innovation urge. Is there a point to the Segway, or is it just a big practical joke? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 17:57:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QMv7tS004039 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:57:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 73F0F1E600D0; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:56:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 439071E600CE for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:56:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0017E835@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:52:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12426236 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:52:15 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QMqFE30651 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:52:15 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.146.66]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030926225210.NVPO20055.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:52:10 -0400 Message-ID: <3F74C31A.8A3F2A76@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:52:10 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Amazing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I need to turn the electree teevee on more often. I think I don't comprehend because of lack of experience. I have my tiny b&w tv on right now in this room, listening to CBS news. They're talking about sick animals in Washington now (of the four-legged kind), but a little while ago there was a segment on the money for rebuilding Iraq, and, if I understood correctly, which perhaps I didn't, the question was being raised "why the U.S. should pay to rebuild Iraq." I'm certainly not happy at the economic quagmire President Idiot has dragged us into, but who else should be expected to pay to fix what he broke? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 17:59:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QMxhtS004068 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:59:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 767761E600D2; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:58:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E5D11E600D1 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:58:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DBA91@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:54:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12426323 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:54:51 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QMsoE30822 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:54:50 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h8QMsnRP032559 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 00:54:49 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h8QMsm9E032557 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 00:54:48 +0200 Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 00:54:48 +0200 From: steph To: words-l Subject: my day so far Message-ID: <20030926225448.GB32510@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU got up to pee went back to bed got up again took a shower thought about going to work thought some more got to work at some unreasonably late hour like 10:45 or something did some stuff had some lunch had the vp ask me if I was doing ok found out the key guy, who'd had the sword hanging over his head for a while, finally got fired did a conference call did some more stuff wondered how long it would take for the shit to hit the fan started getting hectic, but with stuff I could take care of watched the shit hit the fan laid low ran around and did lots more stuff had a discussion where I explained to someone that the poor guy would have been fired for spilling coffee in his keyboard (and someday he might be too, and if he didn't like it he should work for Heineken or KPN or Philips or something because it just didn't work like that here) ran around until the time when I absolutely positively had to be out the door (16.53) drove home and talked to Pat on the mobile on the way home went to the unveiling of my neighbor's house and chatted with my neighbors and among other things was seen to be participating ate a bunch of french fries for dinner went to a going to Sydney party for the colleauge before that who got fired and her new girlfriend, the one the key guy had been slowling handing stuff over to who said fuckit, and quit got home and read my work mail and saw that my boss had been working most of the evening read words-l and wrote this and ate some nuts going to bed From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 18:03:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QN3atS004116 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:03:36 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 382741E600D1; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:02:43 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BF241E600D0 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:02:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DBA96@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:58:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12426515 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:58:38 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QMwbE31164 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:58:38 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.146.66]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030926225832.NYCY20055.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:58:32 -0400 Message-ID: <3F74C499.42376B28@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:58:33 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Carnegie Hall Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I don't see any way on this page to buy a ticket. Does that mean they're sold out, or does it mean that no online-buying is possible, or what? http://tinyurl.com/otmj -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 18:10:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QNAgtS004178 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:10:43 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5B7151E600D3; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:09:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F12B1E600D2 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:09:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DBABE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 19:05:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12426930 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 19:05:50 -0400 Received: from flex.com (flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QN5nE31826 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 19:05:49 -0400 Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8QN5dbM099847 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 13:05:48 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from mem@flex.com) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 13:05:47 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Carnegie Hall Reply-To: mem@flex.com Message-ID: <3F7439AB.21569.3CE62B3@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3F74C499.42376B28@maynor.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 26 Sep 2003 at 17:58, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I don't see any way on this page to buy a ticket. Does that mean > they're sold out, or does it mean that no online-buying is possible, > or what? Did you follow the "Box Office" link? All the ticket-purchase information seems to be right there. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 18:18:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QNIItS004254 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:18:18 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 09C291E600D3; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:17:25 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB64D1E600D2 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:17:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DBAC3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 19:13:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12427186 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 19:13:26 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QNDPE32459 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 19:13:25 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.146.66]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030926231320.ULL1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 19:13:20 -0400 Message-ID: <3F74C811.AE16E4B4@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:13:21 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Carnegie Hall References: <3F7439AB.21569.3CE62B3@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Michael E. Macmillan" wrote: > Did you follow the "Box Office" link? All the ticket-purchase information > seems to be right there. I just tried it, but the page was no different from the one I was on when I got there simply by clicking on the calendar. The "ticketing policies" statement is there but nothing about buying a ticket online for that performance. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 18:19:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8QNJotS004278 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:19:50 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A5DF51E600D4; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:18:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7968A1E600D3 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:18:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DBAEA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 19:14:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12427257 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 19:14:57 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8QNEvE32549 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 19:14:57 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.146.66]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030926231451.UVM1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 19:14:51 -0400 Message-ID: <3F74C86C.D78E14D1@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:14:52 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Carnegie Hall References: <3F74C499.42376B28@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I've concluded that one simply can't buy online tickets for that concert, either because it's sold out or for some other reason. I've seen the "buy tickets" box on other things, but not on that one. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 19:10:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8R0AJtS004856 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 19:10:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7C6141E600DC; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 19:09:25 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7BD1E600D9 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 19:09:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DBC25@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:05:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12430068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:05:26 -0400 Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8R05QE04599 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:05:26 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.111.287f45f3 (657) for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:05:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <111.287f45f3.2ca62e3b@aol.com> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:05:15 EDT Subject: Re: chopped liver, officially To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/26/2003 4:44:54 AM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >A belated HB, CL. >From me too, and many more. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 19:42:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8R0g7tS005258 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 19:42:08 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A57BB1E600E2; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 19:41:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78C051E600DD for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 19:41:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0017EABE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:37:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12432283 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:37:14 -0400 Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (imo-r05.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8R0abE07426 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:36:37 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.a3.4959565b (657) for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:36:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:36:27 EDT Subject: Re: le weekend To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/26/2003 1:07:22 PM, BrandyKitt@AOL.COM writes: >And that's my day so far; how's yours? > >Evelyn Duncan > Had my checkup with the surgeon that fixed my hip. She couldn't find anything wrong or had any suggestions on how to make it feel better, so I don't have to return for another year! Yeah!! Only bad part was that I had lost 5 pounds since the last visit. She didn't have any suggestions on how to gain weight either :-{ But considering all, it was a pretty good day; at least I'm happy with it. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 20:02:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8R12xtS005492 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:02:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 54F8C1E600E2; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:02:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 291451E600E0 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:02:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DBD78@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:58:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12433193 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:58:06 -0400 Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com (imo-r06.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.102]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8R0w5E09208 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:58:06 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1e6.107b25fc (4402) for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:57:48 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1e6.107b25fc.2ca63a8b@aol.com> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:57:47 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] le weekend To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/26/2003 7:38:11 PM Central Daylight Time, Dutchessg1@AOL.COM writes: << She didn't have any suggestions on how to gain weight either :-{ >> I wish you had Daisy's appetite; I've never seen anyone (other than Jethro Bodine) who can eat so much so fast. I guess I got used to finicky kitties. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 20:05:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8R15CtS005516 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:05:12 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CD7101E600E5; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:04:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D46F1E600E4 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:04:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0017EB1E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:00:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12433343 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:00:17 -0400 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8R106E09553 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:00:06 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1e8.1041a8f6 (657) for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:59:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1e8.1041a8f6.2ca63b0a@aol.com> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:59:54 EDT Subject: Re: career changes and "studies" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >At 03:14 PM 9/26/2003 -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: >>It was wonerful. I do love Portland and I do love spending time with my totally awesome daughter and her totally awesome partner. I managed to acquire a nasty cold - VERY unusual for me - but I had a great time anyway. Good for you. Your happy visit, not the cold! I lived in Vancouver WA once, and it seemed that all that rain caused more colds than in other places. Just a guess of course. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 20:08:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8R18YtS005535 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:08:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 966A21E600E2; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:07:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64E861E600E0 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:07:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DBDC0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:03:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12433689 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:03:41 -0400 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8R13fE09994 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:03:41 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.ac.481cdff1 (657) for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:03:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:03:24 EDT Subject: Re: Oh, Doris! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/26/2003 3:29:09 PM, bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU writes: >I didn't remember that you drove her away. >> Me either. I DO remember she posted a lot, but about the subjects my memory is rather vague. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 20:20:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8R1KftS005691 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:20:41 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 01A781E600E0; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:19:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C51E61E600E2 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:19:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DBDE8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:15:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12434342 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:15:47 -0400 Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com (web20502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8R1FlE11110 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:15:47 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:15:46 PDT Message-ID: <20030927011546.75133.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:15:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Paging Ms. Kay To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20030926222853.GA32510@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU We have been punished long > enough. > = > > That should probably say, "We have been punish long enough". You are right, blessed your heart. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 20:24:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8R1OGtS005745 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:24:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AE57D1E600E2; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:22:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 803141E600E0 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:22:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DBE23@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:18:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12434575 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:18:55 -0400 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8R1ItE11359 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:18:55 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:18:54 PDT Message-ID: <20030927011854.22242.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:18:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: All Ashore! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030926184227.00badd00@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Thanks again for that. I did pass it on to another > ex-nun. She liked it. > > > bonnie Ex-nuns live on grunion and onions, Sad to say, they often have bunions. Don't do it, T.S. Please don't jump! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 20:27:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8R1RBtS005770 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:27:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0DB5C1E600E4; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:26:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D10BD1E600E2 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:26:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DBE1E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:22:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12434685 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:22:17 -0400 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8R1MHE11605 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:22:17 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:22:16 PDT Message-ID: <20030927012216.23044.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:22:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Amazing To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F74C31A.8A3F2A76@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU but a little > while ago there was a segment on the money for > rebuilding Iraq, and, if > I understood correctly, which perhaps I didn't, the > question was being > raised "why the U.S. should pay to rebuild Iraq." > I'm certainly not > happy at the economic quagmire President Idiot has > dragged us into, but > who else should be expected to pay to fix what he > broke? > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) This is one of the best questions I've heard in quite some time. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 20:32:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8R1WItS005843 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:32:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 49F321E600E2; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:31:24 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18F231E600E4 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:31:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DBE28@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:27:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12434909 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:27:25 -0400 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8R1ROE11909 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:27:24 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:27:24 PDT Message-ID: <20030927012724.24107.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:27:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Carnegie Hall To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F7439AB.21569.3CE62B3@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Michael E. Macmillan" wrote: > On 26 Sep 2003 at 17:58, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > I don't see any way on this page to buy a ticket. > Does that mean > > they're sold out, or does it mean that no > online-buying is possible, > > or what? > > Did you follow the "Box Office" link? All the > ticket-purchase information > seems to be right there. Or click on Ticketing Policies. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 20:35:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8R1ZxtS005859 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:35:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E92A31E600E9; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:35:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B22C01E600E8 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:35:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DBE68@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:31:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12435143 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:31:05 -0400 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8R1V5E12164 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:31:05 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:31:04 PDT Message-ID: <20030927013104.24938.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:31:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: le weekend To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1e6.107b25fc.2ca63a8b@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I wish you had Daisy's appetite; I've never seen > anyone (other than > Jethro Bodine) who can eat so much so fast. I guess > I got used > to finicky kitties. > > Evelyn Duncan Has been back to the vet's office since she got the worming pills? But voracious eating such as this is normal for puppies of her age. Extort a promise from her not to grow too large. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! 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Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 20:46:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8R1kttS005931 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:46:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 712E81E600E9; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:46:00 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FF541E600E8 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:46:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DBE96@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:42:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12435668 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:42:01 -0400 Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8R1g1E12929 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:42:01 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.123.25ee3b51 (18251) for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:41:49 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <123.25ee3b51.2ca644dc@aol.com> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:41:48 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] le weekend To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/26/2003 8:31:21 PM Central Daylight Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << Has been back to the vet's office since she got the worming pills? But voracious eating such as this is normal for puppies of her age. Extort a promise from her not to grow too large. >> Oh, yes, she's been back and is on a once-a-month wormer the vet gave us. Yesterday, we were walking her (and remember that she is three times Sweetie's size); we met a man and his dog that is one-third Sweetie's size. That dog would have made a snack for Daisy. When she's done something wrong and has been disciplined for it, she will go to the volleyball court when we take her out. She will then dig a hole in the sand and bury her face in it. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 20:52:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8R1q8tS005977 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:52:08 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8C4A41E600EA; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:51:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E1801E600E9 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:51:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DBEAD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:47:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12436030 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:47:14 -0400 Received: from web20512.mail.yahoo.com (web20512.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8R1lEE13660 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:47:14 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20512.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:47:13 PDT Message-ID: <20030927014713.30893.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:47:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: le weekend To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <123.25ee3b51.2ca644dc@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > When she's done something wrong and has been > disciplined > for it, she will go to the volleyball court when we > take her out. > She will then dig a hole in the sand and bury her > face in it. It's a pity she can't teach a thing or two to upright varmints. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 20:57:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8R1v9tS006014 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:57:10 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3B2171E600EA; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:56:15 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F7AD1E600E9 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:56:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DBEC6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:52:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12436243 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:52:14 -0400 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.99]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8R1pQE14004 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:51:26 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1e1.109bbd8e (17228) for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:51:16 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1e1.109bbd8e.2ca64714@aol.com> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:51:16 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] le weekend To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/26/2003 8:47:37 PM Central Daylight Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << It's a pity she can't teach a thing or two to upright varmints. >> I know. I'm glad we kept her. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 21:17:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8R2HttS006185 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:17:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D788E1E600EA; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:17:00 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6ED11E600E9 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:17:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DBF24@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:13:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12437050 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:13:01 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8R2D1E15681 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:13:01 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.146.66]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030927021256.XUQB24914.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:12:56 -0400 Message-ID: <3F74F228.BB93EE6B@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:12:56 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: BP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What a bummer. After that promising start last week (that I saw on my friend's tape), tonight "Boston Public" returned to that shallow, boring, non-funny thing it had turned into last year when I stopped watching it. I much prefer serious movies to comedies, btw. But BP is different. It's not good enough to be good serious stuff. What made it good was the funny moments. Meanwhile, I am certainly glad I no longer live in my old neighborhood. Even though I'm several miles away, I can hear even from here the noise of The Bulldog Bash, which is occurring in that neighborhood -- something like eight bands spread through the neighborhood. According to the newspaper, it is to end at 1:00 a.m., but that means only that the bands will leave. The neighborhood will be crawling with screamers all night. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 21:29:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8R2TBtS006259 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:29:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A888C1E600EC; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:28:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 777FA1E600EB for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:28:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0017ED06@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:24:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12437382 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:24:17 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8R2OHE16270 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:24:17 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.146.66]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030927022412.QESI1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:24:12 -0400 Message-ID: <3F74F4CC.7D1558CA@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:24:12 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Carnegie Hall References: <20030927012724.24107.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > Did you follow the "Box Office" link? All the > > ticket-purchase information > > seems to be right there. > > Or click on Ticketing Policies. Yes, I read the "Ticketing Policies." I think I'm correct in assuming that tickets aren't sold online for this particular performance -- or that it's sold out. I was hatching a trip, thinking about that hotel next door to Carnegie Hall where I stayed for a very reasonable price just a few years ago. But that hotel (the Wellington) has soared upward in price (though I found that changing the dates around led to quite a variety in prices, from just slightly expensive to absurdly expensive -- relatively speaking -- I mean by my standards -- "just slightly expensive" meaning not much over $100, which I would consider absurdly expensive in many places but not in NYC, to close to $200, which I consider out of my league. I also found interesting things re ff-mile travel. Juggling the dates slightly made it cost anywhere from 25,000 ff miles to more than 50,000. I got tired of juggling and am leaning again toward going nowhere. Possibly that last at Furrbabies is gone now anyway. I also checked ff-mile travel to Barcelona and found that apparently you can't get there with ff miles anymore. Out of curiosity, I plugged in all kinds of dates and got a response that there was nothing available. So I then did a regular check, not ff-miles, and saw that there's no problem getting there if you pay money -- and that it's really pretty reasonable -- a little over $400 round-trip from here during xmas holidays. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 21:30:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8R2UltS006295 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:30:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2D69A1E600EC; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:29:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01B541E600EA for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:29:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DBF6E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:25:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12437423 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:25:53 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8R2PqE16438 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:25:52 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.146.66]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030927022547.QFEX1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:25:47 -0400 Message-ID: <3F74F52C.30D139F@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:25:48 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: le weekend References: <123.25ee3b51.2ca644dc@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > When she's done something wrong and has been disciplined > for it, she will go to the volleyball court when we take her out. > She will then dig a hole in the sand and bury her face in it. Daisy is a good dog! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 21:31:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8R2VFtS006299 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:31:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4AD3C1E600EB; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:30:20 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DD841E600EA for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:30:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DBF6F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:26:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12437434 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:26:21 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8R2QLE16466 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:26:21 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.146.66]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030927022615.QFIR1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:26:15 -0400 Message-ID: <3F74F548.215E7215@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:26:16 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: le weekend References: <1e1.109bbd8e.2ca64714@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > I know. I'm glad we kept her. I'm glad you did too. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 21:31:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8R2VqtS006304 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:31:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2B7ED1E600ED; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:30:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F097B1E600EB for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:30:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DBF70@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:26:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12437439 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:26:50 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8R2QoE16480 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:26:50 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0017ED1A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:26:49 -0400 Message-Id: <200309270226.h8R2QoE16480@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:26:49 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: my day so far To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 00:54:48 +0200, steph wrote: >got up to pee >went back to bed >got up again >took a shower >thought about going to work >thought some more >got to work at some unreasonably late hour like 10:45 or something >did some stuff >had some lunch >had the vp ask me if I was doing ok >found out the key guy, who'd had the sword hanging over his head > for a while, finally got fired >did a conference call >did some more stuff >wondered how long it would take for the shit to hit the fan >started getting hectic, but with stuff I could take care of >watched the shit hit the fan >laid low etc. Seems to me like a fairly uncomfortable day. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 21:40:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8R2e1tS006363 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:40:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1A2361E600ED; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:39:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC44E1E600EC for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:39:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DBF82@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:35:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12437765 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:35:07 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8R2Z6E17456 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:35:06 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.146.66]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030927023501.QHRT1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:35:01 -0400 Message-ID: <3F74F755.29A3DBA8@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:35:01 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Very Strange Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The Starkville Daily News has changed its web site repeatedly lately, and it's pretty lame. But what's very strange is that when I pull it up in Netscape, it's in Chinese. Or at least it appears to be Chinese. It's not Japanese. Just kanji. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 21:42:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8R2gotS006385 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:42:50 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D01E81E600EB; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:41:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A052B1E600EA for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:41:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DBF8A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:37:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12437839 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:37:56 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8R2buE17641 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:37:56 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.146.66]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030927023751.QIKB1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:37:51 -0400 Message-ID: <3F74F7FF.54FC7B87@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:37:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Very Strange References: <3F74F755.29A3DBA8@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > The Starkville Daily News has changed its web site repeatedly lately, > and it's pretty lame. But what's very strange is that when I pull it up > in Netscape, it's in Chinese. Or at least it appears to be Chinese. > It's not Japanese. Just kanji. But it's in English with IE: http://starkvilledailynews.com/articles/2003/09/26/news/lifestyles/lifestyles04.txt -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 21:43:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8R2hLtS006423 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:43:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A6F431E600EC; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:42:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 798051E600EB for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:42:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DBF9C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:38:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12437851 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:38:27 -0400 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8R2cRE17667 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:38:27 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.136.24d8f2d5 (18251) for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:38:15 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <136.24d8f2d5.2ca65217@aol.com> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:38:15 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] le weekend To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/26/2003 9:26:08 PM Central Daylight Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << Daisy is a good dog! >> She's a sweetheart! I couldn't give her up. Everytime I imagined giving her up, I would see her looking at us with those beautiful eyes of hers. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 21:47:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8R2lmtS006490 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:47:48 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 028C21E600F2; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:46:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA751E600ED for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:46:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DBFA7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:42:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12437954 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:42:55 -0400 Received: from web20512.mail.yahoo.com (web20512.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8R2gsE17914 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:42:54 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20512.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 19:42:54 PDT Message-ID: <20030927024254.42984.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 19:42:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: le weekend To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <136.24d8f2d5.2ca65217@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Daisy is a good dog! > > >> > > She's a sweetheart! I couldn't give her up. > Everytime I imagined > giving her up, I would see her looking at us with > those beautiful > eyes of hers. See what you would have missed? I'm very glad you kept her. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 21:50:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8R2oZtS006510 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:50:36 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C958B1E600EB; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:49:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D3181E600EA for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:49:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DBFAC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:45:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12437998 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:45:41 -0400 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8R2jfE18054 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:45:41 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.b8.48598782 (18251) for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:45:34 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:45:33 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] le weekend To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/26/2003 9:26:36 PM Central Daylight Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << I'm glad you did too. >> The only one who isn't glad is Sweetie, but she's been able to hold her own with someone who is three times her size. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Sep 26 21:58:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8R2wHtS006584 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:58:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E80081E600EB; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:57:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B74391E600EA for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:57:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DBFD3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:53:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12438476 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:53:22 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8R2rME18864 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:53:22 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.146.66]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030927025317.IHKP1781.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:53:17 -0400 Message-ID: <3F74FB9D.87B1EB0F@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:53:17 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: le weekend References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > The only one who isn't glad is Sweetie, but she's been able to hold > her own with someone who is three times her size. Spencer went ape this afternoon when we headed out to walk and he realized that The White Cat was under the shrubbery in front of our house. He almost dragged me down trying to get at the cat, who would of course have scratched out his beautiful brown eyes. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 00:07:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8R57rtS007927 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 00:07:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 811EC1E600FE; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 00:06:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 507261E600FC for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 00:06:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DC513@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 1:02:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12449435 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 01:02:58 -0400 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:XkVIFbl8f2GgF3a9UzddyqlP3WMGE9Z2@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8R52vE30396 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 01:02:57 -0400 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0613830575 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:02:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 710742382C for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:02:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3F74C86C.D78E14D1@maynor.net> References: <3F74C499.42376B28@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: The sunrise is going down quickly X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Jon-Carroll: We live in a culture of lies Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:02:46 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Carnegie Hall Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I've concluded that one simply can't buy online tickets for that >concert, either because it's sold out or for some other reason. I've >seen the "buy tickets" box on other things, but not on that one. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Or that tickets for that performance aren't on sale yet. By going to the Calendar of Events, and then going to the December 20 page, I see that, next to the Learn More button, there's a notice that says "On Sale 10-21-03". Confusingly, it's next to the 8:00 performance, but maybe it applies to the 2:00 performance as well. It's silly that that information is not on the event web page itself, if indeed it applies, but there you are. Ken Miller Berners-Lee Institute for Araneic Studies From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 02:03:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8R73WtS009375 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 02:03:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 950101E60019; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 02:02:35 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68D951E60011 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 02:02:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0017F36E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 2:58:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12452846 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 02:58:36 -0400 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8R6waE06068 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 02:58:36 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.6b.19af30e6 (4560) for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 02:58:28 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <6b.19af30e6.2ca68f13@aol.com> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 02:58:27 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] le weekend To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/26/2003 9:43:19 PM Central Daylight Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << See what you would have missed? I'm very glad you kept her. >> Right now, she's lying on my bed, taking up the space I usually sleep in. But I can wait until she moves. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 05:58:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RAw7tS011533 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 05:58:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 521371E600AF; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 05:57:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2156E1E60091 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 05:57:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DC805@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 6:53:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12453620 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 06:53:09 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RAr9E15835 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 06:53:09 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.139.224]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030927105304.XEIG1874.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 06:53:04 -0400 Message-ID: <3F756C10.CE7C54B4@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 05:53:04 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Carnegie Hall References: <3F74C499.42376B28@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bookrat wrote: > Or that tickets for that performance aren't on sale yet. By going to the > Calendar of Events, and then going to the December 20 page, I see that, > next to the Learn More button, there's a notice that says "On Sale > 10-21-03". Confusingly, it's next to the 8:00 performance, but maybe it > applies to the 2:00 performance as well. It's silly that that information > is not on the event web page itself, if indeed it applies, but there you > are. Aha. Good detective work, Boo! This sounds promising. But the plan I was hatching was getting complicated, so I probably won't do it -- and that last space at Furrbabies may well be gone by now anyway. The problem (re the complicatedness of the plans, not re Fbabies) is that xmas is too late in the week -- that there are too many days between the weekend before xmas and xmas itself. Since I greatly prefer afternoon concerts, plays, etc. to night ones, being there on a weekend is important. (And I want to go to THAT concert in particular.) But the cost in ff miles is about double for flying home before xmas as opposed to on xmas day. The hotel cost goes up and up and up with all those extra days, though. I have tons of ff miles and thus could easily afford to squander them, but that kind of waste offends my frugality. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 06:00:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RB0utS011582 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 06:00:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8C2B51E600A8; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 05:59:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FE8B1E60091 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 05:59:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0017F53D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 6:55:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12453651 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 06:55:58 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RAtwE15928 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 06:55:58 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.139.224]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030927105553.XEOK1874.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 06:55:53 -0400 Message-ID: <3F756CB7.2FF99059@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 05:55:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: le weekend References: <6b.19af30e6.2ca68f13@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > Right now, she's lying on my bed, taking up the space I > usually sleep in. But I can wait until she moves. Or join her. I used to have to shove Bernard over, especially when he was taking up most of my pillow. That's not an issue with Spencer, alas, since he still jumps off of the bed if I approach it. He's gotten better about not jumping down from the couch when I sit down, though he still does it sometimes -- but will then come back and join me on it in a few minutes. I do wonder what in his background has caused him to behave that way. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 06:11:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RBBmtS011664 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 06:11:48 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D77391E60091; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 06:10:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6DF31E60032 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 06:10:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DC814@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 7:06:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12453774 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 07:06:50 -0400 Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RB6oE16397 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 07:06:50 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.c5.38755768 (4362) for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 07:06:35 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 07:06:34 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] le weekend To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/27/2003 5:56:10 AM Central Daylight Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << Or join her. I used to have to shove Bernard over, especially when he was taking up most of my pillow. >> She's impossible to shove. 30 pounds of dead weight when she sleeps. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 06:24:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RBOWtS011784 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 06:24:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BD5211E60091; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 06:23:33 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9062E1E60029 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 06:23:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DC812@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 7:19:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12453910 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 07:19:34 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RBJYE16929 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 07:19:34 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.139.224]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030927111928.KTHD1781.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 07:19:28 -0400 Message-ID: <3F757240.22AB541E@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 06:19:28 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Re Segways Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU They're being recalled: http://tinyurl.com/ouye -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l*words-l**GTOAL*-COM@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 06:25:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RBPMtS011801 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 06:25:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D299D1E60091; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 06:24:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A635E1E60029 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 06:24:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DC804@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 7:20:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12453917 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 07:20:24 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RBKOE16966 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 07:20:24 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.139.224]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030927112018.KTIS1781.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 07:20:18 -0400 Message-ID: <3F757273.63430C4E@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 06:20:19 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: le weekend References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > She's impossible to shove. 30 pounds of dead weight when she sleeps. What's funny to me is how dogs can make themselves heavier than they really are -- like if they don't want to be picked up because of an impending bath or whatever. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 07:50:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RCoWtS012629 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 07:50:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9AFC31E600B9; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 07:49:33 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CAB21E600B5 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 07:49:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DC8A1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 8:45:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12455249 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 08:45:34 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RCjXE21370 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 08:45:33 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-27.gwi.net [216.195.153.27]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h8RCjTYp022327 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 08:45:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030927084500.00b215b0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 08:45:29 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: le weekend In-Reply-To: <3F74FB9D.87B1EB0F@maynor.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Spencer went ape this afternoon when we headed out to walk and he >realized that The White Cat was under the shrubbery in front of our >house. He almost dragged me down trying to get at the cat, who would of >course have scratched out his beautiful brown eyes. > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Not necessarily. Dogs have been known to kill cats with one chomp and a vigorous shake of the head. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 08:00:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RD0VtS012763 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 08:00:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 773131E600B9; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 07:59:32 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 482801E600B5 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 07:59:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DC8AE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 8:55:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12455384 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 08:55:33 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RCtWE21914 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 08:55:32 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.139.224]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030927125527.JUAH1810.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 08:55:27 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7588BF.992BC79F@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 07:55:27 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: le weekend References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030927084500.00b215b0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > >Spencer went ape this afternoon when we headed out to walk and he > >realized that The White Cat was under the shrubbery in front of our > >house. He almost dragged me down trying to get at the cat, who would of > >course have scratched out his beautiful brown eyes. > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > Not necessarily. Dogs have been known to kill cats with one chomp and a > vigorous shake of the head. But he might emerge from the fray a blind victor. That cat does indeed act a bit uppity, lounging about on the front porch of Spencer's house. I can understand why Spencer is annoyed. But I have told him repeatedly that we should be hospitable even to uninvited guests. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 08:04:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RD4qtS012786 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 08:04:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 20DA41E600B5; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 08:03:53 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6CBB1E6009A for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 08:03:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DC8CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 8:59:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12455496 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 08:59:53 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RCxrE22140 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 08:59:53 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.139.224]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030927125948.JURS1810.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 08:59:48 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7589C4.BD8BCBEE@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 07:59:48 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Balls Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU My mouse ball is acting odd. I remember that I had to clean the one on the Macinshit in Japan constantly -- taking it apart and rubbing it with alcohol, iirc. But that's the only one I've ever cleaned. Is that the usual way to clean -- taking apart and rubbing with alcohol? You have all day to answer this question. I've decided to go to Tupelo to look for a baby present and a shower curtain and cheese straws and a few other needed items. Am waiting until close to 9:00 to leave since the stores there don't open until 10:00, but I have yet to do things like take a shower and get dressed. Why do stores always open so late? I find it frustrating. I'd rather be there right now, taking care of these shopping chores, and then get home earlier. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 08:15:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RDFKtS012914 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 08:15:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4C1BB1E600B9; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 08:14:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CBA51E6009A for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 08:14:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DC8F6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 9:10:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12455907 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 09:10:21 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RDALE22911 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 09:10:21 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DC8D7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 9:10:21 -0400 Message-Id: <200309271310.h8RDALE22911@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 09:10:21 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: le weekend To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 08:45:29 -0400, bonniev wrote: >>Spencer went ape this afternoon when we headed out to walk and he >>realized that The White Cat was under the shrubbery in front of our >>house. He almost dragged me down trying to get at the cat, who would of >>course have scratched out his beautiful brown eyes. >> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > >Not necessarily. Dogs have been known to kill cats with one chomp and a >vigorous shake of the head. > > >bonnie Now there's a pleasant image to carry in my head as I leave for the weekend. In fact, my cat Ferlinghetti was killed by a dachshund in just that fashion when I was 18. He used to ride on my shoulder... I'm about to leave for a clambake on an island in Stillwater Reservoir (western edge of the Adirondacks), where we'll see V's adored older brother and his wife, who finally realized 2 years ago that the reason my first quilt was so sloppy was that I have < interest> in piecing and fiddly machine work. I love to handquilt pieced tops, however, and she has offered to make quilts for me to finish as xmas presents in future... one thing I will do today is pick up last year's installment! I am concerned about going so far away (beyond cell tower range) because my dentist hasn't yet called back about how to handle the crown that fell off my molar last night during American Splendor. My fault for getting talked into jujubes, I suppose; but I had noticed the seam in the tooth for the first time yesterday at work, so I think it had been loosened already. American Splendor was a fascinating piece. Imagine a guy making a movie whose theme and capstone line is, "I sure hope I get enough money from making this movie to retire comfortably from my job as a file clerk". I used to be a big R Crumb fan, due to the old flame having been an underground comix artist wannabe, so a movie about Harvey Pekar was well-timed, since I have been reconnecting w/ my younger self. Yes, I know, more Shoshana jokes. . Apart from nostalgia, it has an Andy Kaufmanesque quality which is, however, matched with a pace that maintains interest well. Even V, whose tolerance for anything "arty" or post-realism in feel is notoriously low (about 10 minutes if visual; about 5 if oral; about 6 words if written), was entranced. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 10:12:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RFCxtS014504 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 10:12:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4F26A1E600FF; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 10:11:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D73C1E600FB for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 10:11:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DCB05@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:07:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12460575 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:07:59 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RF7pE32363 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:07:59 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h8RF7nRP001768 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:07:49 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h8RF7nnp001766 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:07:49 +0200 Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:07:48 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Balls Message-ID: <20030927150748.GA1747@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3F7589C4.BD8BCBEE@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F7589C4.BD8BCBEE@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor: = My mouse ball is acting odd. I remember that I had to clean the one on = the Macinshit in Japan constantly -- taking it apart and rubbing it with = alcohol, iirc. But that's the only one I've ever cleaned. Is that the = usual way to clean -- taking apart and rubbing with alcohol? You have no. since I usually wear jeans I just take out the ball and rub it on those, but any rough cloth should be sufficient. you also need to check the underside of the mouse, and get the black gunk off the plastic feet. when you open the mouse check the rollers inside. they may have a ring of the same black gunk around each roller. I usually just use my fingernails to scrape it off. smokers seem to have the stickiest keyboards and mice. a little soapy water will go a long way. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 10:18:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RFI8tS014575 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 10:18:08 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A0AD81E600FA; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 10:17:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7164B1E600EB for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 10:17:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0017F7F5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:13:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12460731 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:13:09 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RFD8E32700 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:13:08 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.23) id 1A3Glc-0000dU-Iq for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:13:52 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030927075405.03bb3a70@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 08:15:15 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Balls In-Reply-To: <3F7589C4.BD8BCBEE@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, >Is that the usual way to clean -- taking apart and rubbing with alcohol? You should throw the ballsy mouse away and buy an optical one. $10-$25 for a basic model. Logitech is a good name brand. I've had trouble with Microsoft mice, and won't buy them anymore. A no-name brand should be okay, too. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 10:20:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RFKItS014580 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 10:20:18 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E8C451E600FA; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 10:19:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B62261E600EB for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 10:19:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DCB24@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:15:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12460842 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:15:19 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RFFJE00368 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:15:19 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-158-166.gwi.net [216.195.158.166]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h8RFFHQU062165 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:15:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030927111441.00b37e50@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:15:17 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Balls In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030927075405.03bb3a70@mail.istori.com> References: <3F7589C4.BD8BCBEE@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >You should throw the ballsy mouse away and buy an optical one. $10-$25 for >a basic model. Logitech is a good name brand. I've had trouble with >Microsoft mice, and won't buy them anymore. A no-name brand should be >okay, too. --Pete Yes. I'm very happy with my Logitech optical mouse. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 10:30:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RFUctS014716 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 10:30:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BFF941E600FB; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 10:29:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90EDB1E600FA for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 10:29:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DCB50@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:25:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12461199 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:25:27 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RFPQE01126 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:25:26 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h8RFPPRP001800 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:25:25 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h8RFPOQG001798 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:25:24 +0200 Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:25:24 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: my day so far Message-ID: <20030927152524.GB1747@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200309270226.h8R2QoE16480@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200309270226.h8R2QoE16480@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = >watched the shit hit the fan = >laid low = etc. = = Seems to me like a fairly uncomfortable day. = = clo Yeah, it was pretty bad. I spent most of today out walking around to destress. I did do two fun things in the evening, but they might have been better if I wasn't so wiped from work. And I seem to be coming down with a cold. Oh poor me. And I'm on call for work tomorrow. Feh. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 10:34:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RFYJtS014762 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 10:34:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8D3BA1E600EB; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 10:33:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DB6F1E60033 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 10:33:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0017F82B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:29:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12461483 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:29:20 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RFTJE01733 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:29:19 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h8RFTIRP001810 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:29:18 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h8RFTHqQ001808 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:29:17 +0200 Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:29:17 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Balls Message-ID: <20030927152917.GC1747@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3F7589C4.BD8BCBEE@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20030927075405.03bb3a70@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030927075405.03bb3a70@mail.istori.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski: = = You should throw the ballsy mouse away and buy an optical one. $10-$25 for You get other problems with optical mice. I've noticed that it's sensitive to the grain in the pine table I usually use that computer on. It's mildly irritating. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 10:48:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RFmjtS014935 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 10:48:45 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 41E971E60103; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 10:47:45 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F0DD1E60101 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 10:47:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DCBAD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:43:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12462194 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:43:45 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RFhiE03122 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:43:44 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 087C02B583; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 08:43:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEC852B137 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 08:43:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 08:43:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Balls In-Reply-To: <20030927150748.GA1747@yoccoz.multinix.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 27 Sep 2003, steph wrote: > > smokers seem to have the stickiest keyboards and mice. a little > soapy water will go a long way. Steph, how are you this morning? (Sounded like a hard day yesterday, or maybe life is hard, like lifting a rock over and over ha ha ha hee) Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 11:01:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RG1KtS015086 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:01:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B72A81E6002C; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:00:20 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84A6B1E600FF for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:00:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DCBF1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:56:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12462752 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:56:21 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RFuKE04137 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:56:21 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8RFuHW1014716 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 08:56:17 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8RFuGWq014693; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 08:56:16 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20030927085711.00a6ade0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 08:57:27 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Balls In-Reply-To: <20030927150748.GA1747@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3F7589C4.BD8BCBEE@maynor.net> <3F7589C4.BD8BCBEE@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:07 PM 9/27/2003 +0200, steph wrote: >Natalie Maynor: >= My mouse ball is acting odd. I remember that I had to clean the one on >= the Macinshit in Japan constantly -- taking it apart and rubbing it with >= alcohol, iirc. But that's the only one I've ever cleaned. Is that the >= usual way to clean -- taking apart and rubbing with alcohol? You have > >no. since I usually wear jeans I just take out the ball and rub >it on those, but any rough cloth should be sufficient. you also >need to check the underside of the mouse, and get the black gunk >off the plastic feet. when you open the mouse check the rollers >inside. they may have a ring of the same black gunk around each >roller. I usually just use my fingernails to scrape it off. > >smokers seem to have the stickiest keyboards and mice. a little >soapy water will go a long way. Ball less mice rule! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 11:02:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RG2StS015101 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:02:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 35B5A1E600FF; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:01:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 068B21E6002C for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:01:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DCBFC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:57:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12462835 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:57:28 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RFvSE04252 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:57:28 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8RFvQUZ004786 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 08:57:27 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8RFvPJC004759; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 08:57:26 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20030927085751.00a44100@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 08:58:36 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Balls In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030927075405.03bb3a70@mail.istori.com> References: <3F7589C4.BD8BCBEE@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:15 AM 9/27/2003 -0700, Peter Kaminski wrote: >Natalie Maynor writes, > >>Is that the usual way to clean -- taking apart and rubbing with alcohol? > >You should throw the ballsy mouse away and buy an optical one. $10-$25 for >a basic model. Logitech is a good name brand. I've had trouble with >Microsoft mice, and won't buy them anymore. A no-name brand should be >okay, too. That's it! I couldn't think of the word "optical". Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 11:03:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RG3ntS015114 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:03:49 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3D1351E60101; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:02:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08A231E600FF for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:02:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DCC11@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:58:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12462877 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:58:49 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RFwnE04346 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:58:49 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8RFwmHL000571 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 08:58:48 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8RFwfjD000517; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 08:58:42 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20030927085920.00a7b540@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 08:59:52 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Balls In-Reply-To: <20030927152917.GC1747@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030927075405.03bb3a70@mail.istori.com> <3F7589C4.BD8BCBEE@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20030927075405.03bb3a70@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:29 PM 9/27/2003 +0200, steph wrote: >Peter Kaminski: >= >= You should throw the ballsy mouse away and buy an optical one. $10-$25 for > >You get other problems with optical mice. I've noticed that it's >sensitive to the grain in the pine table I usually use that >computer on. It's mildly irritating. I just use a mouse pad with it just to keep it in place. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 11:04:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RG4EtS015122 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:04:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 325451E60101; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:03:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 044DB1E600FF for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:03:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DCC12@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:59:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12462888 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:59:14 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RFxEE04373 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:59:14 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8RFxBUZ005502 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 08:59:11 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8RFxAJC005495; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 08:59:10 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20030927090004.00a41ac0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 09:00:21 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Balls In-Reply-To: References: <20030927150748.GA1747@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:43 AM 9/27/2003 -0700, Ann Borkin wrote: >On Sat, 27 Sep 2003, steph wrote: > > > > smokers seem to have the stickiest keyboards and mice. a little > > soapy water will go a long way. > >Steph, how are you this morning? (Sounded like a hard day yesterday, or >maybe life is hard, like lifting a rock over and over ha ha ha hee) > >Ann Shouldn't you be on your way to class, Ann? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 11:07:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RG7EtS015161 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:07:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DD77F1E60101; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:06:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF5821E600FF for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:06:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DCC10@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 12:02:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12463009 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 12:02:15 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RG2FE04620 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 12:02:15 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 80B192B137; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 09:02:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75BFF2B134 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 09:02:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 09:02:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Balls In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20030927090004.00a41ac0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 27 Sep 2003, Betty wrote: > Shouldn't you be on your way to class, Ann? 1:30 - 4:30. I should be studying but I am the worst flake. Instead I am looking at Jain cosmology sites. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 11:31:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RGVotS015456 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:31:50 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 28E211E60101; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:30:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA2DE1E6002A for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:30:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DCC57@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 12:26:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12463707 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 12:26:50 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RGQoE06437 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 12:26:50 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8RGQXUZ022875 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 09:26:34 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8RGQWJC022851 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 09:26:33 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20030927092628.00a6d980@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 09:27:43 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Subject: Re: Balls In-Reply-To: References: <4.2.2.20030927090004.00a41ac0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:02 AM 9/27/2003 -0700, you wrote: >On Sat, 27 Sep 2003, Betty wrote: > > > Shouldn't you be on your way to class, Ann? > >1:30 - 4:30. I should be studying but I am the worst flake. > >Instead I am looking at Jain cosmology sites. Be warned that there is a football games at 3:30. First Pac 10 home game against USC. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 11:59:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RGxutS015737 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:59:57 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7E56C1E60101; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:58:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F2BE1E6002D for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:58:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DCCA4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 12:54:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12464652 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 12:54:57 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RGsuE08687 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 12:54:56 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.23) id 1A3IMF-0007Q4-2h for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 12:55:47 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030927095355.03e079b0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 09:57:13 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Balls In-Reply-To: <20030927152917.GC1747@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030927075405.03bb3a70@mail.istori.com> <3F7589C4.BD8BCBEE@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20030927075405.03bb3a70@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph writes, >It's mildly irritating. Like Betty, I still use a mouse pad. It's got a better texture for mousing than the desk. And of course, it wouldn't have aliasing problems. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 12:14:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RHEEtS015901 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 12:14:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C99001E60101; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 12:13:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B4701E6002D for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 12:13:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DCCED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 13:09:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12465081 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 13:09:14 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RH9DE09622 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 13:09:14 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 177402B586; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 10:09:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EDB52B573 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 10:09:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 10:09:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Balls In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20030927092628.00a6d980@uclink.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 27 Sep 2003, Betty wrote: > Be warned that there is a football games at 3:30. First Pac 10 home game > against USC. This is really really helpful because I need to park in the structure on Bancroft Way. DAMN. Now I'm getting scared. Last time I parked my car on the street somebody clipped it, dented it and ran away. The insurance lady says it happens a lot in Berkeley. Yep I'm scared, all right. Maybe I should take BART. Uh we have here a failure of nerve. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 12:17:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RHH2tS015962 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 12:17:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CD6581E6010B; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 12:16:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E3BE1E60101 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 12:16:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DCCFA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 13:12:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12465208 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 13:12:02 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RHC1E09888 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 13:12:02 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8RHC1HL015882 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 10:12:01 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8RHBvjD015835; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 10:11:57 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20030927101241.00a792a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 10:13:07 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Balls In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030927095355.03e079b0@mail.istori.com> References: <20030927152917.GC1747@yoccoz.multinix.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20030927075405.03bb3a70@mail.istori.com> <3F7589C4.BD8BCBEE@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20030927075405.03bb3a70@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:57 AM 9/27/2003 -0700, Peter Kaminski wrote: >steph writes, > >>It's mildly irritating. > >Like Betty, I still use a mouse pad. It's got a better texture for mousing >than the desk. And of course, it wouldn't have aliasing problems. > >Pete Pete, back to your trip. Do you have any photos up yet? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 12:23:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RHN6tS016006 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 12:23:06 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D3B0A1E6010B; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 12:22:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A183F1E60101 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 12:22:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DCD05@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 13:18:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12465472 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 13:18:06 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RHI5E10406 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 13:18:06 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8RHI5HL020864 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 10:18:05 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8RHHkjD020666; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 10:17:47 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20030927101705.00a79c70@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 10:18:57 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Balls In-Reply-To: References: <4.2.2.20030927092628.00a6d980@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:09 AM 9/27/2003 -0700, Ann Borkin wrote: >On Sat, 27 Sep 2003, Betty wrote: > > > Be warned that there is a football games at 3:30. First Pac 10 home game > > against USC. > >This is really really helpful because I need to park in the structure on >Bancroft Way. DAMN. > >Now I'm getting scared. Last time I parked my car on the street somebody >clipped it, dented it and ran away. The insurance lady says it >happens a lot in Berkeley. > >Yep I'm scared, all right. Maybe I should take BART. > >Uh we have here a failure of nerve. There will be no parking available. Students earn money by charging you $30 to park on their lawn. You better BART it today. There were long lines of students purchasing tickets yesterday. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 12:37:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RHbetS016132 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 12:37:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6B27C1E6010D; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 12:36:39 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 402BA1E60101 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 12:36:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DCD45@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 13:32:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12466050 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 13:32:39 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RHWdE11327 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 13:32:39 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h8RHWcRP002005 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:32:38 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h8RHWbBY002003 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:32:37 +0200 Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:32:37 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Balls Message-ID: <20030927173237.GA1990@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030927075405.03bb3a70@mail.istori.com> <3F7589C4.BD8BCBEE@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20030927075405.03bb3a70@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20030927095355.03e079b0@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030927095355.03e079b0@mail.istori.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski: = steph writes, = = >It's mildly irritating. = = Like Betty, I still use a mouse pad. It's got a better texture for mousing = than the desk. And of course, it wouldn't have aliasing problems. = = Pete None of my mousepads are a nice solid color. In fact, I don't even know where I have a mousepad at home. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 14:42:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RJgYtS017573 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 14:42:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C52921E60113; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 14:41:32 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954E51E60112 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 14:41:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0017FC4C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 15:37:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12470862 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 15:37:32 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RJbVE19919 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 15:37:31 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h8RJbURP002361 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:37:30 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h8RJbScr002359 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:37:28 +0200 Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:37:28 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Balls Message-ID: <20030927193728.GA2346@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20030927150748.GA1747@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = Steph, how are you this morning? (Sounded like a hard day yesterday, or = maybe life is hard, like lifting a rock over and over ha ha ha hee) = = Ann No, at this point it would be more like racing the tumbling boulder down the hill so you can be repeatedly rolled over by it. I spent the day out walking around and doing a little shopping. I was pretty wiped by that, but it felt good. Then my boss called, and I've got to take handover from him for tomorrow. So I've had conf. calls today and will be on tomorrow. That and my computer has froze up twice today, toasting emails. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 14:51:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RJpRtS017745 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 14:51:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5C6F31E6003F; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 14:50:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CEFA1E6003B for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 14:50:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DCF8C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 15:46:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12471202 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 15:46:26 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RJkQE20414 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 15:46:26 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8RJkPn29149 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 14:46:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id C109916B4; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 14:46:25 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 14:46:25 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: from the gay librarians list Message-ID: <20030927194625.GA24356@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Man, I just hate crap like this: like when someone gets a weenie little can of unsweetened apple sauce from the fridge and calls it a "nice snack". It's less the content of the specific episode and more the mood engendered by this kind of lameass talk! Hate it ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 15:32:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RKW3tS018215 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 15:32:03 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 601DE1E60119; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 15:31:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D22C1E60116 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 15:31:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0017FD32@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:27:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12472964 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:27:01 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RKR1E23133 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:27:01 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8RKR0W1023458 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 13:27:00 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8RKQuWq023391; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 13:26:57 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20030927132706.00a85f00@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 13:28:05 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: from the gay librarians list In-Reply-To: <20030927194625.GA24356@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:46 PM 9/27/2003 -0500, Tushar Samant wrote: >Man, I just hate crap like this: like when someone gets a >weenie little can of unsweetened apple sauce from the fridge >and calls it a "nice snack". > >It's less the content of the specific episode and more the >mood engendered by this kind of lameass talk! Hate it ... You belong to the gay librarians list? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 16:10:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RLActS018637 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:10:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 151291E60116; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:09:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF011E60114 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:09:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DD184@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:05:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12475268 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:05:36 -0400 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RL5aE26888 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:05:36 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.d.194e862a (4459) for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:05:28 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:05:28 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] le weekend To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/27/2003 6:21:17 AM Central Daylight Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << What's funny to me is how dogs can make themselves heavier than they really are >> Dogs add to their weight while cats dig in their claws and become immovable. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 16:12:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RLC2tS018647 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:12:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EB2641E60116; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:11:00 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA8D71E60114 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:11:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DD185@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:07:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12475283 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:07:01 -0400 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RL71E26977 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:07:01 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.b2.22c4f9f7 (4426) for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:06:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:06:51 EDT Subject: Re: le weekend To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/26/2003 8:46:05 PM, BrandyKitt@AOL.COM writes: >The only one who isn't glad is Sweetie, but she's been able to hold >her own with someone who is three times her size. > I've never had 2 different kinds of animal, and can't imagine them getting along, but I guess they do. Every time you write about Daisy I'm jalous because dogs ARE my first love. My kitty is outside since morning because it is a nice sunny day, but it worries me, because there isn't a fence made to keep her in, and she went out the front today, when I had to open the door to check for mail. I know she'll find her way back eventually, but I'm just a worrywort! Did you hear about that nursinghome fire? Gawd, I'm glad I take care of myself yet. There's nothing like living in your own home, and allowed to do what you want WHEN you want, is there? Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 16:12:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RLCwtS018656 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:12:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1901D1E60116; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:11:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E037B1E60114 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:11:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0017FE29@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:07:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12475395 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:07:56 -0400 Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RL7aE27165 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:07:36 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.169.244c2e53 (4459) for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:07:29 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <169.244c2e53.2ca75611@aol.com> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:07:29 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] le weekend To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/27/2003 7:45:47 AM Central Daylight Time, bonniev@GWI.NET writes: << Dogs have been known to kill cats with one chomp and a vigorous shake of the head. >> Should I worry about Daisy and Sweetie? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 16:16:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RLGJtS018735 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:16:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 515221E60116; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:15:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23E5C1E60114 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:15:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DD183@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:11:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12475545 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:11:17 -0400 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RLBHE27554 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:11:17 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.d0.3f40df4b (4426) for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:11:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:11:07 EDT Subject: Re: Amazing To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/26/2003 11:59:43 PM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: >who else should be expected to pay to fix what he >> broke? >> -- Absolutely! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 16:20:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RLKdtS018785 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:20:39 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5274D1E60118; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:19:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2147B1E60116 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:19:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DD191@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:15:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12475657 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:15:37 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RLFbE27824 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:15:37 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8RLFbn28553 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:15:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 05D3416B4; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:15:37 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:15:36 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: from the gay librarians list Message-ID: <20030927211536.GA2614@pobox.com> References: <20030927194625.GA24356@pobox.com> <4.2.2.20030927132706.00a85f00@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20030927132706.00a85f00@uclink.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-27 | Betty writes: > At 02:46 PM 9/27/2003 -0500, Tushar Samant wrote: > >Man, I just hate crap like this: like when someone gets a > >weenie little can of unsweetened apple sauce from the fridge > >and calls it a "nice snack". > > > >It's less the content of the specific episode and more the > >mood engendered by this kind of lameass talk! Hate it ... > > You belong to the gay librarians list? Oops, ha ha! Hey the philosophy discussions are the best on the net ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 16:22:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RLMctS018806 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:22:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0AF241E60116; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:21:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFCC71E60114 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:21:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0017FE4E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:17:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12475668 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:17:36 -0400 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RLHaE27896 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:17:36 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.6d.19c0847e (4426) for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:17:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <6d.19c0847e.2ca75867@aol.com> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:17:27 EDT Subject: Re: Balls To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/27/2003 7:00:01 AM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >that the >usual way to clean -- taking apart and rubbing with alcohol? I guess I've been lucky. Haven't had a mouse gone bad on me YET. Never cleaned one either. So what you have to say about the MAC now huh? Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 16:24:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RLOctS018825 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:24:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6740C1E60118; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:23:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3988B1E60116 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:23:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DD197@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:19:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12475709 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:19:36 -0400 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RLJaE27977 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:19:36 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.171.243dcccd (4459) for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:19:28 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <171.243dcccd.2ca758df@aol.com> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:19:27 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] le weekend To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/27/2003 4:08:44 PM Central Daylight Time, Dutchessg1@AOL.COM writes: << Every time you write about Daisy I'm jalous because dogs ARE my first love. My kitty is outside since morning because it is a nice sunny day, but it worries me, because there isn't a fence made to keep her in, and she went out the front today, when I had to open the door to check for mail. I know she'll find her way back eventually, but I'm just a worrywort! >> Cats are my first love, and my life without a kitty was empty (the time between Brandy and Sweetie). One time Siegi disappeared, and she made it back home a day later; I think she was kidnapped, because she was dead tired and had very sore paws when she came back. She must have travelled a long way. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 16:29:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RLTrtS018876 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:29:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4E5631E60116; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:28:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 216D71E60114 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:28:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DD1E5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:24:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12476226 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:24:51 -0400 Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RLOpE28478 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:24:51 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.194.1f161bcf (4426) for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:24:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <194.1f161bcf.2ca75a1b@aol.com> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:24:43 EDT Subject: Re: my day so far To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/27/2003 9:25:59 AM, stevie@MULTINIX.COM writes: >Oh poor me. And I'm on call for work tomorrow. Feh. Hang in there if you can manage. I'll send good wishes your way. There's bound to be a better time coming! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 16:42:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RLgxtS019000 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:42:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6E1971E60119; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:41:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CB9F1E60118 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:41:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0017FEB8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:37:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12476622 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:37:57 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RLbvE29389 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:37:57 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8RLbvn11480 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:37:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id E3F4416B4; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:37:56 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:37:56 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: from the gay librarians list Message-ID: <20030927213756.GA3418@pobox.com> References: <20030927194625.GA24356@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030927194625.GA24356@pobox.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-27 | Tushar Samant writes: > Man, I just hate crap like this: like when someone gets a > weenie little can of unsweetened apple sauce from the fridge > and calls it a "nice snack". And how about two coworkers discussing (completely seriously) how the Potbelly sandwich one of them ate is clogging her arteries ... which might sound reasonable until you realize that a STICK OF BUTTER the size of that lame ass pissant "sandwich" wouldn't clog a gnat's artery! Jeeze! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 18:06:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RN6jtS019754 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:06:46 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 32CEA1E60046; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:05:43 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 017111E6004A for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:05:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DD31B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:01:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12479206 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:01:43 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RN1hE02981 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:01:43 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.59]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030927230138.CPGI1874.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:01:38 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7616D2.596CAE0D@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:01:38 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Balls References: <3F7589C4.BD8BCBEE@maynor.net> <20030927150748.GA1747@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > it on those, but any rough cloth should be sufficient. you also > need to check the underside of the mouse, and get the black gunk > off the plastic feet. I just turned over my mouse and saw that it doesn't have feet. The mouse seems fine now, though. It was when I was playing Scrabble early this morning that I noticed it was acting a bit odd. > when you open the mouse check the rollers > inside. they may have a ring of the same black gunk around each > roller. I usually just use my fingernails to scrape it off. I will perhaps open it tomorrow. > smokers seem to have the stickiest keyboards and mice. a little > soapy water will go a long way. Soapy water on the mouse ball? I keep the top of my mouse clean with a paper towel with a bit of 409 or whatever on it. Ditto the keyboard. I used to pull off keys on former keyboards and do major cleaning, but I don't do that anymore, partly because I don't know what happened to my key-puller-offer. I haven't seen it in years. Why would smokers have sticky keyboards and mice? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 18:09:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RN9PtS019779 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:09:25 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 528AE1E60119; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:08:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 252A91E60046 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:08:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DD314@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:04:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12479253 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:04:22 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RN4ME03166 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:04:22 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.59]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030927230417.CPUU1874.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:04:17 -0400 Message-ID: <3F761771.F5880650@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:04:17 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Balls References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030927075405.03bb3a70@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > You should throw the ballsy mouse away and buy an optical one. $10-$25 for > a basic model. What's an optical mouse? What does it look at? Your fingers? The screen? > Logitech is a good name brand. My very first mouse was a Logitech, iirc. > I've had trouble with > Microsoft mice, and won't buy them anymore. My current one is Microsoft. But I have several other mouses in my closet. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 18:09:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RN9wtS019786 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:09:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AA4311E60119; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:08:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76E311E60046 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:08:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0017FFC0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:04:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12479260 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:04:55 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RN4tE03181 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:04:55 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.59]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030927230450.CPXS1874.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:04:50 -0400 Message-ID: <3F761793.A79FC8DC@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:04:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Balls References: <3F7589C4.BD8BCBEE@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20030927075405.03bb3a70@mail.istori.com> <20030927152917.GC1747@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > You get other problems with optical mice. I've noticed that it's > sensitive to the grain in the pine table I usually use that > computer on. It's mildly irritating. You don't use a mousepad? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 18:12:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RNCFtS019807 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:12:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EB9291E60119; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:11:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEDB21E60046 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:11:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DD335@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:07:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12479276 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:07:13 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RN7DE03285 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:07:13 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.59]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030927230707.CQJD1874.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:07:07 -0400 Message-ID: <3F76181C.578C0575@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:07:08 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Balls References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin wrote: > > Be warned that there is a football games at 3:30. First Pac 10 home game > > against USC. > > This is really really helpful because I need to park in the structure on > Bancroft Way. DAMN. We have to pay to park if we want to go to our offices during (or within something like five hours of) a fb game -- or at least if we want to park anywhere on campus. There have been quite a few complaints. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 18:18:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RNIAtS019897 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:18:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DC6E91E6011A; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:17:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B01641E60046 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:17:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DD349@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:13:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12479439 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:13:08 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RND8E03570 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:13:08 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.59]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030927231302.CRPB1874.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:13:02 -0400 Message-ID: <3F76197F.22D27449@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:13:03 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: le weekend References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > Dogs add to their weight while cats dig in their claws and become > immovable. Speaking of dogs, I've probably mentioned before that Spencer isn't the greeter that Bernardykins was. Bernard would go wild in greeting me even if I had been gone only ten minutes. He would race around and find something to present to me. Spencer is not a greeter at all. He gives a quick nod or flip of the tail and keeps his seat. That's if I'm on a normal schedule. But when I got home from Tupelo at 5:30 today, which is later than I usually get home, he went wild -- yelping and running around in circles. My trip to Tupelo was productive. I got a cute 0-3 months baby outfit, a shower curtain that I think I like, a tin of cheese straws, some shoes that are sort of like those that Betty was stepping in snow with on our way to SnowBash, and a pair of jeans. And a spoon rest since I decided not long ago that I hate my current one. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 18:19:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RNJEtS019904 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:19:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 18A581E6011B; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:18:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0C451E6011A for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:18:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DD33D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:14:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12479467 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:14:12 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RNECE03613 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:14:12 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.59]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030927231406.CRTO1874.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:14:06 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7619BF.F7BFAB76@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:14:07 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: le weekend References: <169.244c2e53.2ca75611@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > << > Dogs have been known to kill cats with one chomp and a > vigorous shake of the head. > >> > > Should I worry about Daisy and Sweetie? No. Dogs have been known to be close friends with cats. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 18:20:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RNKNtS019932 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:20:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B82D01E6011B; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:19:20 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B2A11E6011A for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:19:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0017FFE5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:15:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12479530 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:15:20 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RNFKE03721 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:15:20 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.59]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030927231514.CRYZ1874.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:15:14 -0400 Message-ID: <3F761A03.CCB497B@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:15:15 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Balls References: <6d.19c0847e.2ca75867@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > I guess I've been lucky. Haven't had a mouse gone bad on me YET. > Never cleaned one either. So what you have to say about the MAC now huh? All I have to say about Mac balls is that my only experience in having to do ball-cleaning regularly was my Mac experience. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 18:33:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RNXxtS020066 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:33:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 596351E6011A; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:32:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2905E1E60046 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:32:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DD379@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:28:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12479849 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:28:56 -0400 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RNSuE04371 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:28:56 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.66.36ba6e75 (4214) for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:28:48 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <66.36ba6e75.2ca77730@aol.com> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:28:48 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] le weekend To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/27/2003 6:13:17 PM Central Daylight Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << But when I got home from Tupelo at 5:30 today, which is later than I usually get home, he went wild -- yelping and running around in circles. >> He was worried about you, and, when you got back, that relieved his worries. Daisy greets me when I come out of my room after a nap. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 18:48:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RNmktS020305 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:48:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EA5F71E6011A; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:47:43 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA2051E60046 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:47:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DD390@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:43:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12480197 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:43:44 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RNhiE05065 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:43:44 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.23) id 1A3Ojr-0007Tu-Me for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:44:36 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030927163851.03b87088@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:45:59 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Balls In-Reply-To: <3F761771.F5880650@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030927075405.03bb3a70@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, >What's an optical mouse? What does it look at? Your fingers? The >screen? It looks just like a regular mouse, except that where the ball apparatus usually goes, there's a little red light and an optical sensor. There's a tiny computer chip inside that scans the surface under the mouse and detects the movement as you move the mouse. They work great on most surfaces, except for very shiny ones, or steph's wood grain. They don't need cleaning, and they move the pointer very smoothly. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 18:49:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8RNnFtS020309 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:49:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B639A1E6011B; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:48:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 892E11E6011A for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:48:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0018001D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:44:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12480211 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:44:06 -0400 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.99]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RNi6E05092 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:44:06 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.16f.244d74eb (17526) for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:43:57 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <16f.244d74eb.2ca77abc@aol.com> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:43:56 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] le weekend To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/27/2003 6:14:19 PM Central Daylight Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << No. Dogs have been known to be close friends with cats. >> Let's hope so in their case. Sweetie likes to lie in a dining-room chair grooming herself, Daisy passes by, Sweetie reaches out a paw to whap Daisy. Sweetie's been working on her karate moves. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 19:03:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S03VtS020469 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:03:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 742D01E6011A; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:02:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 429B51E60046 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:02:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DD3E0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:58:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12480756 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:58:28 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8RNwSE05940 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:58:28 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.59]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030927235823.ICTB1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:58:23 -0400 Message-ID: <3F76241F.DC3822F2@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:58:23 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: le weekend References: <66.36ba6e75.2ca77730@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > He was worried about you, Or about his empty food bowl... Dogs do worry about their companion people, though, regardless of the status of their food bowls. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 19:05:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S05ZtS020494 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:05:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F2C631E6011A; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:04:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4FA11E60046 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:04:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DD3E7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:00:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12480822 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:00:32 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S00VE06062 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:00:32 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.59]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030928000026.IDPW1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:00:26 -0400 Message-ID: <3F76249B.41ED6F2A@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:00:27 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: le weekend References: <16f.244d74eb.2ca77abc@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > << > No. Dogs have been known to be close friends with cats. > >> > > Let's hope so in their case. Sweetie likes to lie in a dining-room > chair grooming herself, Daisy passes by, Sweetie reaches out > a paw to whap Daisy. Sweetie's been working on her karate > moves. I've never heard of a case of a dog who lives with a cat suddenly turning on the cat -- or vice versa. The cat-killing by dogs and the dog-maiming by cats are cases involving strangers meeting for the first time, afaik. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 19:06:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S06TtS020502 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:06:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 217B01E6011A; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:05:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E86891E60046 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:05:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DD3D8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:01:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12480831 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:01:26 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S01QE06126 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:01:26 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.59]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030928000120.IDYN1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:01:20 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7624D1.126A789D@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:01:21 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Balls References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030927075405.03bb3a70@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20030927163851.03b87088@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > They work great on most surfaces, except for very shiny ones, or steph's > wood grain. They don't need cleaning, and they move the pointer very smoothly. I will perhaps explore this possibility at some point. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 19:10:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S0AdtS020547 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:10:39 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 439A51E6011A; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:09:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 176A81E60046 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:09:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DD3DA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:05:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12480955 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:05:36 -0400 Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (imo-r05.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S05aE06347 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:05:36 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.133.25a1c26e (4340) for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:05:29 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <133.25a1c26e.2ca77fc9@aol.com> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:05:29 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] le weekend To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/27/2003 7:00:33 PM Central Daylight Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << The cat-killing by dogs and the dog-maiming by cats are cases involving strangers meeting for the first time, afaik. >> I think Sweetie is just telling Daisy: back off, big one. i'm head pet here! Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 19:14:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S0EJtS020589 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:14:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BA5811E6011A; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:13:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DC3E1E60046 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:13:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0018007C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:09:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12481037 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:09:17 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S09GE06565 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:09:16 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.59]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030928000911.IHCG1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:09:11 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7626A8.CE23CEC1@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:09:12 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Bipartisan Blogging Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just blogged something from a self-declared conservative: http://tinyurl.com/ov1g -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 19:41:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S0fVtS020842 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:41:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A4BB31E6011B; 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charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.bravotv.com/Inside_the_Actors_Studio/Personality_Profile/ Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 19:51:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S0putS020974 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:51:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F01911E6011B; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:50:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFD6B1E60047 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:50:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DD41B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:46:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12481707 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:46:53 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S0kVE08996 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:46:31 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-158-166.gwi.net [216.195.158.166]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h8S0kRQU010921 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:46:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030927204602.00b33ae8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:46:30 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Balls In-Reply-To: <3F761793.A79FC8DC@maynor.net> References: <3F7589C4.BD8BCBEE@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20030927075405.03bb3a70@mail.istori.com> <20030927152917.GC1747@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >steph wrote: > > You get other problems with optical mice. I've noticed that it's > > sensitive to the grain in the pine table I usually use that > > computer on. It's mildly irritating. > >You don't use a mousepad? > -- Natalie I don't use a mouse pad. Am a bad person? bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 19:55:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S0tNtS021022 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:55:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A955A1E6011B; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:54:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BAB01E6011A for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:54:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DD44C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:50:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12481904 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:50:19 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S0oJE09584 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:50:19 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-158-166.gwi.net [216.195.158.166]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h8S0oHYp099551 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:50:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030927204818.00b7a098@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:50:20 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: le weekend In-Reply-To: <3F76249B.41ED6F2A@maynor.net> References: <16f.244d74eb.2ca77abc@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I've never heard of a case of a dog who lives with a cat suddenly >turning on the cat -- or vice versa. The cat-killing by dogs and the >dog-maiming by cats are cases involving strangers meeting for the first >time, afaik. -- Natalie Exactly. Even when pets in the same household hate each other, they won't actually do much damage to each other. They recognize that they are siblings. Our little black cat hates the middle cat. Sometimes the middle cat gets a good scratch across the nose from that cat. I've seen blood. But I'm confident that they wouldn't fight so bad as to kill one another. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 19:55:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S0tRtS021025 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:55:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9CFC51E6011C; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:54:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F1FE1E6011B for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:54:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DD42E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:50:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12481908 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:50:23 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S0oNE09588 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:50:23 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.59]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030928005018.VQJ1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:50:18 -0400 Message-ID: <3F76304B.652FC890@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:50:19 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Funny Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The prescriptivists among you might find it funny that I, a descriptivist by profession, just sent e-mail to Howard Dean's staff telling them to do better editing of releases -- that picky people might conclude that HD is of questionable literacy because of these two usage-gaffes in the latest release on his website: "To get Iraq on track, it is vitally important that the Pentagon begins the task of restoring credibility ..." "More technology wasn’t needed to confront the enemy in Iraq more troops were." from: http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/PageServer?pagename=mustgo_text -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 19:56:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S0uctS021037 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:56:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 751201E6011B; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:55:35 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47C631E6011A for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:55:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DD435@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:51:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12481970 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:51:35 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S0pZE09702 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:51:35 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.59]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030928005130.VXC1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:51:30 -0400 Message-ID: <3F763092.8DDF5D78@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:51:30 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Balls References: <3F7589C4.BD8BCBEE@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20030927075405.03bb3a70@mail.istori.com> <20030927152917.GC1747@yoccoz.multinix.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20030927204602.00b33ae8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > I don't use a mouse pad. Am a bad person? Not necessarily . Just of . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 19:59:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S0x7tS021051 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:59:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CDE991E6011B; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:58:03 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DBCA1E6011A for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:58:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DD45D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:54:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12482047 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:54:04 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S0s3E09879 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:54:03 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.23) id 1A3Pps-0003XT-9q for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:54:52 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030927113538.03e06cf8@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:56:15 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Balls In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20030927101241.00a792a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030927095355.03e079b0@mail.istori.com> <20030927152917.GC1747@yoccoz.multinix.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20030927075405.03bb3a70@mail.istori.com> <3F7589C4.BD8BCBEE@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20030927075405.03bb3a70@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty writes, >Pete, back to your trip. Do you have any photos up yet? Unfortunately, no, but thanks for the reminder. I'll bump it up higher in my list of procrastinatory activities. :) Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 20:03:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S13etS021102 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:03:41 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5CDE41E6011A; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:02:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BCAD1E60047 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:02:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DD45D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:58:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12482277 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:58:37 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S0wbE10532 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:58:37 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h8S0wYjI010498 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:58:35 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001901c3855c$ae136d20$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <168.2447ddab.2ca786f8@aol.com> Subject: Re: I matched Julia Roberts Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:05:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: I matched Julia Roberts > http://www.bravotv.com/Inside_the_Actors_Studio/Personality_Profile/ > > Evelyn Duncan Stockard Channing here. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 20:10:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S1APtS021149 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:10:25 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8B7E51E6011A; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:09:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AFC71E60047 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:09:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DD47F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:05:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12482432 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:05:21 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S15LE11056 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:05:21 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h8S15IjI020175 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:05:19 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <006701c3855d$9f4a3840$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20030926013304.95241.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Oh, Doris! Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:12:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Are you watching Nebraska have its way with Southern > Miss? I enjoy seeing SOME team win. > > __________________________________ No, I wasn't. Was busy vacationing and actually not aware of the game until it was over. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 20:17:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S1HRtS021218 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:17:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9A2E81E60047; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:16:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BB4B1E60032 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:16:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DD478@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:12:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12482535 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:12:23 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S1CNE11467 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:12:23 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h8S1CKjI004384 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:12:21 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <00e001c3855e$9ab85ea0$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: another one gone Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:19:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU George Plimpton at 76 BrP Oddly, George Plimpton came to our city, I think more than once. He was a real freak about pyrotechnics (? .. fireworks) and became friends with a gentleman here who had a lot of expertise on the subject. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 20:27:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S1RbtS021308 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:27:41 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C01A11E60047; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:26:33 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FCDA1E60032 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:26:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00180111@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:22:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12482716 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:22:33 -0400 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8S1MXE12081 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:22:33 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:22:32 PDT Message-ID: <20030928012232.34723.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:22:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: le weekend To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Did > you hear about that nursinghome fire? Gawd, I'm glad > I take care of myself > yet. There's nothing like living in your own home, > and allowed to do what you > want WHEN you want, is there? > Theo But, Theo, if you couldn't take care of yourself, at least there would be someone there to help you get out. What is your kitty's name? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 20:33:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S1X9tS021350 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:33:09 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 244C61E60047; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:32:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E87AE1E60032 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:32:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DD48B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:28:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12482861 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:28:06 -0400 Received: from web20506.mail.yahoo.com (web20506.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8S1S5E12520 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:28:05 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:28:04 PDT Message-ID: <20030928012804.46017.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:28:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: from the gay librarians list To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20030927213756.GA3418@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > And how about two coworkers discussing (completely > seriously) > how the Potbelly sandwich one of them ate is > clogging her > arteries ... which might sound reasonable until you > realize > that a STICK OF BUTTER the size of that lame ass > pissant > "sandwich" wouldn't clog a gnat's artery! Jeeze! She doesn't really believe that. It's people who lack anything to say who get tangled up in sweet nothings like that. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 20:40:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S1e8tS021425 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:40:12 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2E49E1E60049; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:39:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1F331E60047 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:39:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DD4AF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:35:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12482938 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:35:05 -0400 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8S1Z4E12829 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:35:04 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:35:04 PDT Message-ID: <20030928013504.34708.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:35:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Balls To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F7616D2.596CAE0D@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Why would smokers have sticky keyboards and mice? > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Chewing tobacco. 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Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 20:41:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S1fVtS021439 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:41:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2DA8B1E60049; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:40:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 003991E60047 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:40:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DD4A0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:36:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12482964 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:36:28 -0400 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8S1aSE12883 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:36:28 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:36:27 PDT Message-ID: <20030928013627.33488.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:36:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Balls To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F76181C.578C0575@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > We have to pay to park if we want to go to our > offices during (or within > something like five hours of) a fb game -- or at > least if we want to > park anywhere on campus. There have been quite a > few complaints. I should think so. That's outrageous. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 20:52:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S1qftS021514 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:52:45 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2EE241E6004D; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:51:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F14EC1E60049 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:51:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00180155@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:47:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12483331 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:47:37 -0400 Received: from web20512.mail.yahoo.com (web20512.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8S1laE13994 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:47:36 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20512.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:47:35 PDT Message-ID: <20030928014735.39243.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:47:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: I matched Julia Roberts To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <168.2447ddab.2ca786f8@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > http://www.bravotv.com/Inside_the_Actors_Studio/Personality_Profile/ Gwyneth Paltrow and I are like this: || __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 20:53:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S1rQtS021518 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:53:26 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 51FC11E6011C; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:52:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 245D61E6004D for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:52:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DD4C5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:48:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12483362 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:48:22 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S1mLE14034 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:48:21 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h8S1mIjI003461 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:48:19 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <016b01c38563$a0c61b20$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: WHTMIC Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:55:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h8S1rQtS021518 Colorado was great! We had rented my cousin's condo in Silverthorne, and met friends there to spend a few days. The condo was nice . . all the amenities. We spent our days driving out through Vail and Breckenridge and Aspen and other areas, marvelling at the gorgeous views of the mountains, the ski runs, the tall pines, the aspens just now turning brilliant yellow and gold and shimmering in the sun and the breeze, sharp against a brilliant blue cloudless sky. Evenings we lit a fire in the fireplace, cooked steaks, opened some wine, and then played games or cards. There was the hot tub and swimming pool, but we never made it there. On Thursday we left there and drove down to our friends' home in Colorado Springs. The drive took us through more interesting areas, and we stopped now and then to go through some ancient hotel or something. The views were exquisite. We passed through Woodland Park, Theo! One interesting thing in Colorado Springs . . we had dinner at Ted's Montana Grille, which features bison big time. (Didn't order bison, but had a very good meal) The place had opened a week before and the owner was there for the grand opening. I thought it kinda neat to hear that Ted Turner invited all the help and their families to come down and have dinner with him on opening night. I was a little disturbed though because I knew that Ted had bought up thousands of acres of land in Montana and other states, including Nebraska, and that he ran a lot of buffalo there. But I thought he was protecting them . . . not butchering them! Hmm. Must do research. My friend and I brushed up on the piano duets we played together when we were kids growing up two miles apart. Do you have any idea how long ago that was? And we talked about our friends' years in the military all over the world, and about our kids and what they're doing now, and our choices for our own futures as we age. So that's where I went and what I did, and although it may not sound exciting, it's a slice of life. It was a ten hour drive home today. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 21:00:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S204tS021603 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:00:05 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 223A61E6004D; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:59:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E80DB1E60049 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:59:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DD4CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:55:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12483576 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:55:01 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S1t0E14743 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:55:00 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.59]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030928015455.SSYG1781.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:54:55 -0400 Message-ID: <3F763F70.FD75FB58@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:54:56 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Balls References: <20030928013627.33488.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > > We have to pay to park if we want to go to our > > offices during (or within > > something like five hours of) a fb game -- or at > > least if we want to > > park anywhere on campus. There have been quite a > > few complaints. > > I should think so. That's outrageous. In a way. But then football *is* important in many ways. And there was quite a bit of on our Thursday-night game this year -- one of those ESPN games that are on Thursdays. The campus police assured people that they could stay in their parking places as long as they wanted to, which is in violation of the "five hours before the game" thing. Weekends are different, though. I went to the p.o. this morning on my way to Tupelo and didn't find parking blocked at that hour, but I feel sure that it was by mid-afternoon. Tonight's game didn't start until 8. I actually watched the first quarter on tv and was surprised to see that we were only down by 7-0 at the end of that quarter. In the earlier games this season we've been down by things like 28-0 in the first quarter, to pancake (no wait -- it's creampuff, isn't it) teams. In our usual weirdness, we're down only 7-0 tonight against a definitely uncreampuffish opponent -- LSU, which is somewhere in the top 10. My guess, though, is that the final score will be something like 76-0. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 21:01:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S21FtS021616 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:01:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C4E7D1E6011B; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:00:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97C761E6004D for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:00:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00180163@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:56:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12483583 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:55:29 -0400 Received: from web20509.mail.yahoo.com (web20509.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.144]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8S1tSE14751 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:55:29 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20509.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:55:28 PDT Message-ID: <20030928015528.85602.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:55:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: WHTMIC To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <016b01c38563$a0c61b20$facadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > So that's where I went and what I did, and although > it may not sound exciting, it's a slice of life. It > was a ten hour drive home today. > > It all sounds fun and beautiful and - well, comfy, sort of. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 21:06:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S26ftS021661 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:06:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EF9071E6011B; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:05:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE4AB1E6004D for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:05:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DD4DA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:01:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12483756 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:01:38 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S21bE15143 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:01:37 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-158-166.gwi.net [216.195.158.166]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h8S21aQU016562 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:01:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030927220113.00b817c8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:01:39 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: I matched Julia Roberts In-Reply-To: <20030928014735.39243.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> References: <168.2447ddab.2ca786f8@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >http://www.bravotv.com/Inside_the_Actors_Studio/Personality_Profile/ > > >Gwyneth Paltrow and I are like this: || Uh, huh. For me it is Helen Hunt. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 21:08:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S28BtS021684 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:08:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 47D951E6011B; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:07:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C5FD1E6004D for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:07:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DD4FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:03:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12483779 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:03:02 -0400 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8S231E15254 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:03:01 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:03:00 PDT Message-ID: <20030928020300.36008.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:03:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Balls To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F763F70.FD75FB58@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I actually watched the first quarter on tv > and was surprised > to see that we were only down by 7-0 at the end of > that quarter. In the > earlier games this season we've been down by things > like 28-0 in the > first quarter, to pancake (no wait -- it's > creampuff, isn't it) teams. > In our usual weirdness, we're down only 7-0 tonight > against a definitely > uncreampuffish opponent -- LSU, which is somewhere > in the top 10. My > guess, though, is that the final score will be > something like 76-0. I believe LSU is ranked No. 9, but they are not cream puffs under the best of circumstances. Something about LA makes them feisty scrappers. I've always loved the IDEA of Louisiana and NO. I'm going to turn the game on now, just to keep track. Alabama lost in an over-time heart breaker. As for parking places, it's the age-old devilment between the groves of academia and the playing fields of Starkville, I suppose. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 21:15:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S2FbtS021765 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:15:37 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E2AFD1E6011B; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:14:33 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B13581E6004D for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:14:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DD4FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:10:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12483956 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:10:34 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S2AXE15862 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:10:33 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.59]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030928021028.BOPR1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:10:28 -0400 Message-ID: <3F764315.94CE110A@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:10:29 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Balls References: <20030928020300.36008.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > I believe LSU is ranked No. 9, but they are not cream > puffs under the best of circumstances. Something > about LA makes them feisty scrappers. I've always > loved the IDEA of Louisiana and NO. I'm going to turn > the game on now, just to keep track. Alabama lost in > an over-time heart breaker. It's good you're turning it on since I just turned it off. It's nice that Words-L is . I guess I could be an LSU fan since that's where my BA degree is from. Some people are fans of the schools they went to. Somehow I can't get into that mode, though. I'm for , and is where I've spent the last 30+ years, not where I went to school many years ago. > As for parking places, it's the age-old devilment > between the groves of academia and the playing fields > of Starkville, I suppose. I don't really see it that way. Football is related to the groves of Academia. And none of this parking has to do with Starkville since it's not in Starkville. MSU isn't in Starkville -- it's adjacent to Starkville. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 21:21:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S2LntS021856 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:21:49 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3EC711E6011B; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:20:45 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 115A51E6004D for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:20:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DD504@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:16:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12484094 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:16:45 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S2GjE16363 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:16:45 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.59]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030928021639.BQFT1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:16:39 -0400 Message-ID: <3F764488.E0F7A5E2@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:16:40 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I matched Julia Roberts References: <168.2447ddab.2ca786f8@aol.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20030927220113.00b817c8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > >http://www.bravotv.com/Inside_the_Actors_Studio/Personality_Profile/ > > > > > >Gwyneth Paltrow and I are like this: || > > Uh, huh. For me it is Helen Hunt. I just tried it and am Sissy Spacek. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 21:25:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S2PmtS021881 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:25:48 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6FB701E6004D; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:24:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 430981E60049 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:24:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DD516@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:20:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12484142 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:20:44 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S2KiE16628 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:20:44 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8S2Kin26643 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:20:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id CE50916B4; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:20:43 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:20:43 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: from the gay librarians list Message-ID: <20030928022043.GA26056@pobox.com> References: <20030927213756.GA3418@pobox.com> <20030928012804.46017.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030928012804.46017.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-27 | Lynne Weber writes: > > And how about two coworkers discussing (completely seriously) > > how the Potbelly sandwich one of them ate is clogging her > > arteries ... which might sound reasonable until you realize > > that a STICK OF BUTTER the size of that lame ass pissant > > "sandwich" wouldn't clog a gnat's artery! Jeeze! > > She doesn't really believe that. It's people who lack > anything to say who get tangled up in sweet nothings > like that. That is basically true ... However, I am now interested in why people home in on a certain subset of nothings out of the vast range available. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 21:26:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S2Q9tS021901 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:26:09 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C2AD11E6004D; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:25:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9535A1E60049 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:25:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DD4F8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:21:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12484148 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:21:05 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S2L5E16650 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:21:05 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-158-166.gwi.net [216.195.158.166]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h8S2L1Yr009007; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:21:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030927221606.00b15e48@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:20:49 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: WHTMIC In-Reply-To: <016b01c38563$a0c61b20$facadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:55 PM 9/27/2003 -0500, Doris Markland wrote: >... I was a little disturbed though because I knew that Ted had bought up >thousands of acres of land in Montana and other states, including >Nebraska, and that he ran a lot of buffalo there. But I thought he was >protecting them . . . not butchering them! Hmm. Must do research. There has been an effort for several years now to promote bison meat (usually called buffalo) as an alternative to beef. Bison meat is lower in cholesterol and if I remember the claims correctly, bison can be raised for market on less-favorable grazing land than can beef cattle. I've had bison burgers---the parents of a rowing referee in Kansas raised bison for market---very good. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 21:26:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S2QJtS021902 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:26:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 65DFB1E6011B; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:25:15 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37FDF1E60049 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:25:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DD507@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:21:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12484152 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:21:15 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S2LFE16663 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:21:15 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.59]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030928022110.BRFG1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:21:10 -0400 Message-ID: <3F764596.33F205AB@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:21:10 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Weird Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just did it again, giving my second choices this time on the answers, and I'M STILL SISSY SPACEK! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 21:28:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S2SCtS021928 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:28:12 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6C84D1E6011B; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:27:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 399631E60049 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:27:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DD50B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:23:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12484189 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:23:08 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S2N8E16809 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:23:08 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8S2N8n28197 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:23:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id EBB6216B4; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:23:07 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:23:07 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Balls Message-ID: <20030928022307.GB26056@pobox.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030927075405.03bb3a70@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20030927163851.03b87088@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030927163851.03b87088@mail.istori.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-27 | Peter Kaminski writes: > Natalie Maynor writes, > > >What's an optical mouse? What does it look at? Your fingers? The > >screen? > > It looks just like a regular mouse, except that where the ball apparatus > usually goes, there's a little red light and an optical sensor. There's a > tiny computer chip inside that scans the surface under the mouse and > detects the movement as you move the mouse. > > They work great on most surfaces, except for very shiny ones, or steph's > wood grain. They don't need cleaning, and they move the pointer very > smoothly. Hm, maybe they are pretty good now ... I was wondering why I have an aversion towards them, and it's because of bad experiences about 19 years ago with Sun's optical mouses. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 21:35:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S2ZctS022059 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:35:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 70D4D1E6011B; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:34:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 425E71E6004D for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:34:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DD51A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:30:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12484397 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:30:34 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S2UYE17610 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:30:34 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.59]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030928023029.BTJB1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:30:29 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7647C5.AB0F5F09@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:30:29 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Balls References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030927075405.03bb3a70@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20030927163851.03b87088@mail.istori.com> <20030928022307.GB26056@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > Hm, maybe they are pretty good now ... I was wondering why > I have an aversion towards them, and it's because of bad > experiences about 19 years ago with Sun's optical mouses. My mouse seems quite cooperative tonight. Maybe I should try a game of Scrabble and see whether it behaves. But it's about time to turn off the computer and go to bed. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 21:36:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S2artS022068 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:36:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1632A1E6011B; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:35:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA4491E6004D for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:35:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DD520@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:31:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12484414 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:31:49 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S2VmE17665 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:31:48 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8S2VjW1025159 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:31:45 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8S2VfWq025149; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:31:42 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20030927193202.00a2c220@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:32:48 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: College football In-Reply-To: <006701c3855d$9f4a3840$facadece@0018079268> References: <20030926013304.95241.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:12 PM 9/27/2003 -0500, Doris Markland wrote: > > Are you watching Nebraska have its way with Southern > > Miss? I enjoy seeing SOME team win. > > > > __________________________________ > >No, I wasn't. Was busy vacationing and >actually not aware of the game until it was >over. Cal beat U$C in triple over time! What a game. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 21:37:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S2bLtS022077 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:37:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2AB391E6011B; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:36:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1B4E1E6004D for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:36:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DD53F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:32:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12484418 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:32:17 -0400 Received: from web20506.mail.yahoo.com (web20506.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8S2WHE17707 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:32:17 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:32:16 PDT Message-ID: <20030928023216.59486.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:32:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: from the gay librarians list To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20030928022043.GA26056@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > That is basically true ... However, I am now > interested > in why people home in on a certain subset of > nothings > out of the vast range available. A lot of it may depend on what the latest pretentious "rage" is. They don't swallow gold fish. That's out. Cholesterol is trendy at present. All sorts of disgusting things are trendy now. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 21:39:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S2d0tS022086 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:39:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AB7971E6011B; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:37:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E6E91E6004D for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:37:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DD545@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:33:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12484449 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:33:56 -0400 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8S2XuE17755 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:33:56 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:33:55 PDT Message-ID: <20030928023355.87191.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:33:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: WHTMIC To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030927221606.00b15e48@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > There has been an effort for several years now to > promote bison meat > (usually called buffalo) as an alternative to beef. > Bison meat is lower in > cholesterol and if I remember the claims correctly, > bison can be raised for > market on less-favorable grazing land than can beef > cattle. I've had bison > burgers---the parents of a rowing referee in Kansas > raised bison for > market---very good. What ever became of "Beefalo" (sp?)? > > cwv __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 21:39:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S2dbtS022092 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:39:37 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C01BB1E6011B; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:38:33 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9205E1E6004D for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:38:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DD546@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:34:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12484460 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:34:34 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S2YXE17803 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:34:33 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8S2YWUZ026122 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:34:32 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8S2YTJC026111; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:34:30 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20030927193436.00a4f870@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:35:37 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: WHTMIC In-Reply-To: <016b01c38563$a0c61b20$facadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >My friend and I brushed up on the piano duets we played together when we >were kids growing up two miles apart. Do you have any idea how long ago >that was? And we talked about our friends' years in the military all over >the world, and about our kids and what they're doing now, and our choices >for our own futures as we age. What fun! >So that's where I went and what I did, and although it may not sound >exciting, it's a slice of life. It was a ten hour drive home today. > > - D. M. A nice slice of life. Why drive ten hours though? I'd break it up. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 21:40:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S2ejtS022118 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:40:45 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 29D1F1E6011C; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:39:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF63D1E6011B for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:39:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DD52C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:35:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12484484 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:35:41 -0400 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8S2ZfE17888 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:35:41 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:35:40 PDT Message-ID: <20030928023540.43865.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:35:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Weird To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F764596.33F205AB@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > I just did it again, giving my second choices this > time on the answers, > and I'M STILL SISSY SPACEK! Well, you're just going to have to keep taking it until you turn into someone else. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 21:42:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S2gjtS022130 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:42:45 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 789571E6011C; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:41:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 468291E6011B for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:41:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DD53C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:37:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12484513 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:37:41 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S2bfE17994 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:37:41 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8S2bfn05724 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:37:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id DFE7216B4; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:37:40 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:37:40 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: from the gay librarians list Message-ID: <20030928023740.GA2431@pobox.com> References: <20030928022043.GA26056@pobox.com> <20030928023216.59486.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030928023216.59486.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-27 | Lynne Weber writes: > > That is basically true ... However, I am now interested > > in why people home in on a certain subset of nothings > > out of the vast range available. > > A lot of it may depend on what the latest pretentious > "rage" is. They don't swallow gold fish. That's out. > Cholesterol is trendy at present. > All sorts of disgusting things are trendy now. Where, in inner Alabama? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 21:43:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S2h9tS022136 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:43:09 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6B1C31E6011D; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:42:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E1CC1E6011B for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:42:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DD52F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:38:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12484526 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:38:05 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S2c5E18037 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:38:05 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8S2c48b005231 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:38:04 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.102]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h8S2c2fC023128 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:38:03 -0400 Message-ID: <002101c38569$8ac80350$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20030926013304.95241.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20030927193202.00a2c220@uclink.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: College football Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:38:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU HEJ! - 'Sounds great, Betty! ;-) Might it be some kinda record? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty" To: Sent: Saturday, 27 September, 2003 10:32 PM Subject: College football > At 08:12 PM 9/27/2003 -0500, Doris Markland wrote: > > > Are you watching Nebraska have its way with Southern > > > Miss? I enjoy seeing SOME team win. > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > >No, I wasn't. Was busy vacationing and > >actually not aware of the game until it was > >over. > Cal beat U$C in triple over time! What a game. > > Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 21:43:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S2hUtS022140 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:43:30 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 690411E6011E; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:42:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BD131E6011D for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:42:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DD53E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:38:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12484530 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:38:26 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S2cQE18043 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:38:26 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.59]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030928023821.BVCG1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:38:21 -0400 Message-ID: <3F76499D.1625BEBA@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:38:21 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: The Mouse Is Fine Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just played a game of Scrabble and found no aberrance in the mouse's behavior. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 21:44:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S2igtS022158 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:44:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 35ECA1E6011E; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:43:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 086A21E6011D for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:43:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001801C0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:39:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12484548 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:39:38 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S2dcE18089 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:39:38 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.59]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030928023932.BVKQ1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:39:32 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7649E5.EEEB481@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:39:33 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: College football References: <20030926013304.95241.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20030927193202.00a2c220@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > Cal beat U$C in triple over time! What a game. What is U$C? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 21:49:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S2nftS022252 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:49:41 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6B5D71E6011D; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:48:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DD871E6011B for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:48:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DD551@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:44:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12484710 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:44:37 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S2ibE18462 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:44:37 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.59]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030928024432.BWKF1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:44:32 -0400 Message-ID: <3F764B10.A4773B2@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:44:32 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: WHTMIC References: <4.2.2.20030927193436.00a4f870@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > >My friend and I brushed up on the piano duets we played together when we > >were kids growing up two miles apart. Do you have any idea how long ago > >that was? And we talked about our friends' years in the military all over > >the world, and about our kids and what they're doing now, and our choices > >for our own futures as we age. > > What fun! My mail is weird. I don't remember seeing this. > A nice slice of life. Why drive ten hours though? I'd break it up. Why? To get home. Ten hours isn't all that long. If I thought a ten-hour drive was long, I would never have made it to or from Acadiafest. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 21:50:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S2ogtS022285 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:50:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C2F061E60120; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:49:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 969471E6011E for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:49:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DD565@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:45:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12484743 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:45:38 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S2jbE18530 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:45:37 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8S2jbn09536 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:45:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 2AF6616B4; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:45:37 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:45:37 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Balls Message-ID: <20030928024537.GB2431@pobox.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030927075405.03bb3a70@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20030927163851.03b87088@mail.istori.com> <20030928022307.GB26056@pobox.com> <3F7647C5.AB0F5F09@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F7647C5.AB0F5F09@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-27 | Natalie Maynor writes: > Tushar Samant wrote: > > > Hm, maybe they are pretty good now ... I was wondering why > > I have an aversion towards them, and it's because of bad > > experiences about 19 years ago with Sun's optical mouses. > > My mouse seems quite cooperative tonight. Maybe I should try a game of > Scrabble and see whether it behaves. But it's about time to turn off > the computer and go to bed. Thanks for quoting! I meant 10 years ago. And I can even squeeze out some relevance to Scrabble out of this seemingly hopeless situation ... those mouses needed strongly patterned mouse-pads, and if I remember right, they were metal plates with a checkerboard pattern. Hm, actually, no, Scrabble still remains totally irrelevant to the point. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 21:51:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S2pStS022290 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:51:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E493B1E6011D; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:50:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B9E1E6011B for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:50:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001801D3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:46:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12484754 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:46:18 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S2kHE18561 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:46:17 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.59]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030928024612.BWTX1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:46:12 -0400 Message-ID: <3F764B75.5E5B8775@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:46:13 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weird References: <20030928023540.43865.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > I just did it again, giving my second choices this > > time on the answers, > > and I'M STILL SISSY SPACEK! > > Well, you're just going to have to keep taking it > until you turn into someone else. That's why I took it a second time, giving different answers (but still reasonable ones -- as in my second choices). I thought surely I would turn into somebody else. But I didn't. And I no longer have the url, so I can't try third choices. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 21:52:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S2qJtS022298 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:52:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 964F91E6011D; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:51:15 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A02E1E6011B for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:51:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001801D9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:47:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12484807 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:47:13 -0400 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8S2lDE18627 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:47:13 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:47:12 PDT Message-ID: <20030928024712.51988.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:47:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: from the gay librarians list To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20030928023740.GA2431@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > All sorts of disgusting things are trendy now. > > Where, in inner Alabama? Yes. Disgusting things not only emanate and flow from deepest Alabama, they also penetrate to its very soul. OT According to a grammar study by the University of Chicago, sentences cannot begin with "but" or "and". (NPR) Fortunately, I have never read this study. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 21:54:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S2sotS022317 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:54:50 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BCB531E6011D; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:53:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F3641E6011B for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:53:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DD56E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:49:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12484959 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:49:46 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S2nkE18846 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:49:46 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8S2njUZ001901 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:49:45 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8S2ngJC001884; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:49:43 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20030927195019.00a50100@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:50:50 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: College football In-Reply-To: <002101c38569$8ac80350$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> References: <20030926013304.95241.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20030927193202.00a2c220@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU No, I think we went sever over times once. They changed the rules the next season. Betty At 10:38 PM 9/27/2003 -0400, Alan Wild wrote: >HEJ! - 'Sounds great, Betty! ;-) Might it be some kinda record? > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Betty" >To: >Sent: Saturday, 27 September, 2003 10:32 PM >Subject: College football > > > > At 08:12 PM 9/27/2003 -0500, Doris Markland wrote: > > > > Are you watching Nebraska have its way with Southern > > > > Miss? I enjoy seeing SOME team win. > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > > > >No, I wasn't. Was busy vacationing and > > >actually not aware of the game until it was > > >over. > > Cal beat U$C in triple over time! What a game. > > > > Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 21:55:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S2tAtS022321 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:55:10 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3BE021E6011B; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:54:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DC941E6011D for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:54:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DD583@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:50:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12484991 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:50:06 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S2o6E18885 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:50:06 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8S2o5W1000566 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:50:05 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8S2o3Wq000559; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:50:04 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20030927195059.00a88100@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:51:10 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: The Mouse Is Fine In-Reply-To: <3F76499D.1625BEBA@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:38 PM 9/27/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I just played a game of Scrabble and found no aberrance in the mouse's >behavior. >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Play again just to be sure. B From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 21:55:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S2tktS022327 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:55:46 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C63DB1E60120; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:54:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96D3C1E6011E for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:54:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DD567@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:50:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12485019 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:50:41 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S2ofE18943 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:50:41 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8S2oeHL032695 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:50:40 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8S2ocjD032686; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:50:39 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20030927195131.00a52d30@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:51:45 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: College football In-Reply-To: <3F7649E5.EEEB481@maynor.net> References: <20030926013304.95241.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20030927193202.00a2c220@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:39 PM 9/27/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty wrote: > > > Cal beat U$C in triple over time! What a game. > >What is U$C? University of Southern California. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 21:58:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S2wPtS022360 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:58:25 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0B4431E6011E; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:57:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0E1D1E6011B for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:57:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DD57C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:53:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12485211 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:53:21 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S2rKE19198 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:53:20 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8S2rJUZ003803 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:53:19 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8S2rHJC003778; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:53:18 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20030927195220.00a89a70@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:54:24 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: WHTMIC In-Reply-To: <3F764B10.A4773B2@maynor.net> References: <4.2.2.20030927193436.00a4f870@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:44 PM 9/27/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Why? To get home. Ten hours isn't all that long. If I thought a >ten-hour drive was long, I would never have made it to or from >Acadiafest. Too long for me. Do you take lots of little breaks or do you just keep right on driving? BB From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 22:02:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S322tS022398 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:02:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2D5761E6011D; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:00:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECA721E6011B for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:00:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DD593@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:56:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12485393 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:56:58 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S2uvE19402 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:56:58 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h8S2usjI021860 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:56:56 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000c01c3856d$3619dd20$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <4.2.2.20030927193436.00a4f870@uclink.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: Re: WHTMIC Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:04:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > >My friend and I brushed up on the piano duets we played together when we > >were kids growing up two miles apart. Do you have any idea how long ago > >that was? And we talked about our friends' years in the military all over > >the world, and about our kids and what they're doing now, and our choices > >for our own futures as we age. > > What fun! > > > >So that's where I went and what I did, and although it may not sound > >exciting, it's a slice of life. It was a ten hour drive home today. > > > > - D. M. > > A nice slice of life. Why drive ten hours though? I'd break it up. > > Betty When you live in the midwest you are used to long drives and think nothing of it. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 22:02:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S32vtS022405 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:02:57 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E7A6C1E6011D; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:01:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBF1D1E6011B for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:01:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DD5A2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:57:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12485523 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:57:52 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S2vpE19520 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:57:51 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h8S2vnjI022985 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:57:50 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001101c3856d$5658de60$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20030928023540.43865.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: Weird Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:05:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > > I just did it again, giving my second choices this > > time on the answers, > > and I'M STILL SISSY SPACEK! > > Well, you're just going to have to keep taking it > until you turn into someone else. > And I hope she does. Sissy Spacek is not on my list of favorites. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 22:10:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S3A0tS022443 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:10:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CD00A1E6011D; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:08:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C8AA1E6011B for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:08:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DD70E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:04:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12488161 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:04:55 -0400 Received: from web20506.mail.yahoo.com (web20506.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8S34tE21015 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:04:55 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:04:55 PDT Message-ID: <20030928030455.66848.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:04:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Balls To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20030928024537.GB2431@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Hm, actually, no, Scrabble still remains totally > irrelevant to the point. You should have just told the story to begin with. Otherwise, everything gets scrabbled. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 22:13:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S3D4tS022471 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:13:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3909F1E6011E; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:12:00 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B7051E6011D for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:12:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DD75C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:08:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12489004 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:07:59 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S37xE21534 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:07:59 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8S37vn20236 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:07:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id D70DC16B4; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:07:56 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:07:56 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: from the gay librarians list Message-ID: <20030928030756.GC2431@pobox.com> References: <20030928023740.GA2431@pobox.com> <20030928024712.51988.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030928024712.51988.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-27 | Lynne Weber writes: > > > All sorts of disgusting things are trendy now. > > > > Where, in inner Alabama? > > Yes. Disgusting things not only emanate and flow from > deepest Alabama, they also penetrate to its very soul. The question is not about disgusting, but about trendy. For instance, if children in a lower middle class neighborhood in a third world city were parodying cholesterol-watching 20 years ago, in what sense is it "trendy" now? Discuss. > OT According to a grammar study by the University of > Chicago, sentences cannot begin with "but" or "and". > (NPR) > > Fortunately, I have never read this study. I'll leave it to "Ken Miller" to issue a thunderous refutation (in a post full of completely unnatural sentences beginning with "but" and "and", needless to say). I merely want to say that the word "study" is abused here. This word, or as a matter of fact the phrase "according to a study", has some unavoidable suggestions. It suggests scietific observations made in the "wild", impeccable statistical analyses, etc. Hence, it is by definition inappropriate here. Hence, it amounts to cheating, or assuming false authority. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 22:14:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S3EQtS022496 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:14:26 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 873181E60121; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:13:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AE781E60120 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:13:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DD75F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:09:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12489025 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:09:11 -0400 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8S39BE21588 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:09:11 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:09:10 PDT Message-ID: <20030928030910.45542.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:09:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: College football To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20030927195019.00a50100@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Betty wrote: > No, I think we went sever over times once. They > changed the rules the next > season. > > > Cal beat U$C in triple over time! What a game. I'm sorry I missed this game. It seems that I remember the record was 8 over-times, but I don't recall the teams, except that one was probably an SEC team. What happened to Larry's dog after he ate the frog? The dog, I mean. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 22:16:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S3G1tS022542 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:16:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 633DE1E60120; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:14:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3594D1E6011D for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:14:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001803B2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:10:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12489049 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:10:57 -0400 Received: from web20503.mail.yahoo.com (web20503.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.138]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8S3AvE21715 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:10:57 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:10:56 PDT Message-ID: <20030928031056.4695.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:10:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: The Mouse Is Fine To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20030927195059.00a88100@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Betty wrote: > At 09:38 PM 9/27/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >I just played a game of Scrabble and found no > aberrance in the mouse's > >behavior. > >-- > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > Play again just to be sure. > > B Regardless of the letters she uses, she'll make the same score. It's a Sissy Spacek thing. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 22:27:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S3RVtS022584 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:27:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 47F1E1E6011E; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:26:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 182001E6011D for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:26:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DD77D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:22:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12489200 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:22:27 -0400 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S3MRE22447 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:22:27 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.135.259a4657 (4340) for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:22:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <135.259a4657.2ca7adea@aol.com> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:22:18 EDT Subject: Re: Balls To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/27/2003 5:45:19 PM, kaminski@ISTORI.COM writes: >It looks just like a regular mouse, except that where the ball apparatus >usually goes, there's a little red light and an optical sensor. That's the kind that came with my MAC. But I never had any trouble with the ball kinds either. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 22:28:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S3SBtS022588 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:28:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A76601E6011E; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:27:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A4171E6011D for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:27:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DD78E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:23:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12489218 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:23:06 -0400 Received: from web20501.mail.yahoo.com (web20501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.136]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8S3N6E22502 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:23:06 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:23:04 PDT Message-ID: <20030928032304.28868.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:23:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: from the gay librarians list To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20030928030756.GC2431@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > The question is not about disgusting, but about > trendy. For > instance, if children in a lower middle class > neighborhood > in a third world city were parodying > cholesterol-watching > 20 years ago, in what sense is it "trendy" now? > Discuss. Quite frankly, I don't get your point(s). I do not grasp how a third world city has anything at all to do with it. This is the perfect opportunity for you to reveal how your well-manicured mind works. I put my trust in you to enlighten. > > Fortunately, I have never read this study. > > I'll leave it to "Ken Miller" to issue a thunderous > refutation > (in a post full of completely unnatural sentences > beginning > with "but" and "and", needless to say). I merely > want to say > that the word "study" is abused here. This word, or > as a matter > of fact the phrase "according to a study", has some > unavoidable > suggestions. It suggests scietific observations made > in the > "wild", impeccable statistical analyses, etc. Hence, > it is by > definition inappropriate here. Hence, it amounts to > cheating, > or assuming false authority. Tell it to the Dean. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 22:37:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S3bgtS022665 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:37:43 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 600721E6011D; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:36:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 301471E6004C for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:36:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DD7E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:32:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12489893 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:32:38 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S3WcE23111 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:32:38 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8S3Wbn01740 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:32:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id AA46516B4; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:32:37 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:32:37 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: from the gay librarians list Message-ID: <20030928033237.GA11603@pobox.com> References: <20030928030756.GC2431@pobox.com> <20030928032304.28868.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030928032304.28868.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-27 | Lynne Weber writes: > > The question is not about disgusting, but about trendy. For > > instance, if children in a lower middle class neighborhood > > in a third world city were parodying cholesterol-watching > > 20 years ago, in what sense is it "trendy" now? Discuss. > > Quite frankly, I don't get your point(s). I do not > grasp how a third world city has anything at all to do > with it. This is the perfect opportunity for you to > reveal how your well-manicured mind works. I put my > trust in you to enlighten. There's nothing to "enlighten". If you stop hearing a threat in every post, you will get the point. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 22:41:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S3fHtS022677 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:41:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BD1291E60120; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:40:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 900601E6011D for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:40:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DD7D8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:36:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12489942 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:36:12 -0400 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8S3aCE23395 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:36:12 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:36:11 PDT Message-ID: <20030928033611.57736.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:36:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: from the gay librarians list To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20030928033237.GA11603@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > There's nothing to "enlighten". If you stop hearing > a threat > in every post, you will get the point. Okay. Okay. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 22:55:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S3tktS022755 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:55:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 39C321E60120; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:54:42 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 097F21E6004C for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:54:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DD825@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:50:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12490485 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:50:42 -0400 Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S3ogE24701 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:50:42 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.11d.26678b40 (4340) for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:50:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <11d.26678b40.2ca7b487@aol.com> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:50:31 EDT Subject: Re: le weekend To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/27/2003 7:22:55 PM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: >But, Theo, if you couldn't take care of yourself, at >least there would be someone there to help you get >out. > >What is your kitty's name? > You wouldn't say that if you had ever been in one, as I have. If I got to the point where I needed a lot of help, I think I would hire a private nurse or fulltime house keeper. The cost would probably run about the same amount because those places ain't cheap either. My kitty's name is Micky, but I didn't name her. My grandson rescued her from a very abusive family. She was an absolutely adorable tiny kitten yet, but she was named already, so I kept the name. She returned home today after about 4 hours, but it's been so hot today that I had the back patio door open, and she manages to crawl under the screen, so she's out again. I can hardly believe it's fall; tomorrow's forecast is for 90 degrees! That's one thing I'd have to give up for sure: my kitty:-{ Not to mention all of you. If they have computers in a home, all I've ever seen is that they will teach you how to use one! I don't think they'd allow you to keep your own, at least not where I was. So, thanks, but no thanks, ok? Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 23:00:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S40mtS022827 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:00:48 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DAD531E60120; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:59:43 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF28F1E6004C for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:59:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0018044B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:55:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12490610 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:55:44 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S3thE24958 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:55:43 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8S3tgUZ001193 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:55:42 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8S3tdJC001186; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:55:40 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20030927205625.00a49e20@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:56:45 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: College football In-Reply-To: <20030928030910.45542.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> References: <4.2.2.20030927195019.00a50100@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:09 PM 9/27/2003 -0700, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Betty wrote: > > No, I think we went sever over times once. They > > changed the rules the next > > season. > > > > Cal beat U$C in triple over time! What a game. > >I'm sorry I missed this game. > >It seems that I remember the record was 8 over-times, >but I don't recall the teams, except that one was >probably an SEC team. > >What happened to Larry's dog after he ate the frog? >The dog, I mean. He foamed at the mouth. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 23:16:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S4GFtS022946 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:16:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9294E1E60120; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:15:10 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C8411E600DF for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:15:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DD8FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 0:11:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12492280 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 00:10:19 -0400 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S45LE26235 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 00:05:21 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.bc.3def9890 (4340) for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 00:05:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 00:05:04 EDT Subject: Re: WHTMIC To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/27/2003 7:49:07 PM, dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM writes: >On Thursday we left there and drove down to our friends' home in Colorado >Springs. The drive took us through more interesting areas, and we stopped >now and then to go through some ancient hotel or something. The views >were exquisite. We passed through Woodland Park, Theo! > Oh hush.... Don't remind me of that wonderful state. I've lived in both places for many years, and always will love them. It's strange that people from other places, as a friend of mine, think of Colorado as being a nasty cold place. He couldn't believe how nice it was when he actually came to visit. I had tried to tell him, but he wouldn't believe me, and then he couldn't believe how wrong he'd been! But we know better, huh? Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 23:36:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S4a8tS023077 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:36:08 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C5D581E60122; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:35:03 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 964921E60121 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:35:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DD956@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 0:31:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12493037 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 00:30:50 -0400 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S4UoE27724 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 00:30:50 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.c9.37f2d30b (4340) for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 00:30:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 00:30:39 EDT Subject: Re: Balls To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/27/2003 8:33:20 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >But it's about time to turn off >the computer and go to bed. You turn off your computer? What happens to the stuff in it's memory? When I had a job with computers, we were NEVER allowed to turn them off. They don't use a lot of power, so we turned off the monitors only. I never turn off my MAC, but it has a feature that lets you put it to sleep. It saves money on power usage, but doesn't touch the program inside of it. The only time it got screwed up was when I logged on to another network; I think it was one that runs mostly PC's :-{ att I think it was. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 23:43:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S4h6tS023148 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:43:06 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2FD221E60122; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:42:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF0A01E60121 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:42:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DD966@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 0:38:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12493135 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 00:38:01 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S4c0E28057 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 00:38:01 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 270762B589; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:38:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17FAD2B583 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:38:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:38:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: from the gay librarians list In-Reply-To: <20030928022043.GA26056@pobox.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 27 Sep 2003, Tushar Samant wrote: > > > that a STICK OF BUTTER the size of that lame ass pissant > > > "sandwich" wouldn't clog a gnat's artery! Jeeze! > > She doesn't really believe that. It's people who lack > > anything to say who get tangled up in sweet nothings > > like that. > That is basically true ... However, I am now interested > in why people home in on a certain subset of nothings > out of the vast range available. What do you expect her to say, "I'm sorry I ate that sandwich because I meant to stop eating because I hate my fat thighs/stomach/cheeks [whatever] and I have no self control and I hate myself and I wish I was anywhere but here in this stupid deadend job with people who criticize my every comment" ? Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 23:44:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S4ihtS023175 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:44:43 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 66EA11E60121; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:43:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A2F91E60120 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:43:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DD96F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 0:39:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12493176 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 00:39:38 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S4dcE28111 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 00:39:38 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 943222B58F; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:39:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 803492B58E for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:39:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:39:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: from the gay librarians list In-Reply-To: <20030927194625.GA24356@pobox.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 27 Sep 2003, Tushar Samant wrote: > Man, I just hate crap like this: like when someone gets a > weenie little can of unsweetened apple sauce from the fridge > and calls it a "nice snack". > > It's less the content of the specific episode and more the > mood engendered by this kind of lameass talk! Hate it ... HA HA HA HA HA you said 'fridge' ha ha Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Sep 27 23:45:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S4jwtS023217 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:45:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6B92D1E60120; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:44:53 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D9E71E600DF for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:44:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DD98C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 0:40:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12493247 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 00:40:53 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S4erE28258 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 00:40:53 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id AAB812B58F; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:40:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E7322B58B for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:40:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:40:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: from the gay librarians list In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 27 Sep 2003, Ann Borkin wrote: > > HA HA HA HA HA you said 'fridge' ha ha I meant to add, you talk like a gay librarian! :) Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 00:30:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S5UrtS024077 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 00:30:54 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9FCE81E60054; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 00:29:48 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 720171E60050 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 00:29:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DDA9D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 1:25:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12494414 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 01:25:48 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S5PmE31127 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 01:25:48 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8S5Pln27510 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 00:25:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id C464516B4; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 00:25:47 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 00:25:47 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: from the gay librarians list Message-ID: <20030928052547.GB14604@pobox.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-27 | Ann Borkin writes: > On Sat, 27 Sep 2003, Ann Borkin wrote: > > > > HA HA HA HA HA you said 'fridge' ha ha > > I meant to add, you talk like a gay librarian! > > :) You know, bringing up this "gay" thing, again, and again, and again, and AGAIN, is SOOOOO TRASHY! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 00:31:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S5VOtS024092 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 00:31:24 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0F6481E60054; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 00:30:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6FA11E60050 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 00:30:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DDA7F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 1:26:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12494418 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 01:26:19 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S5QIE31144 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 01:26:18 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8S5QIn27805 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 00:26:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 7332E16B4; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 00:26:18 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 00:26:18 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: from the gay librarians list Message-ID: <20030928052618.GC14604@pobox.com> References: <20030928033237.GA11603@pobox.com> <20030928033611.57736.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030928033611.57736.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-27 | Lynne Weber writes: > > There's nothing to "enlighten". If you stop hearing a threat > > in every post, you will get the point. > > Okay. Okay. My sex-obsessed trap seems to be working ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 00:38:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S5c5tS024134 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 00:38:05 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 736701E600DF; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 00:37:00 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42CA61E60054 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 00:37:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001805E8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 1:33:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12494493 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 01:33:00 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S5X0E31574 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 01:33:00 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8S5Wxn01310 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 00:32:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id AFD6A16B4; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 00:32:59 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 00:32:59 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: from the gay librarians list Message-ID: <20030928053259.GD14604@pobox.com> References: <20030928022043.GA26056@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-27 | Ann Borkin writes: > > > > > that a STICK OF BUTTER the size of that lame ass pissant > > > > "sandwich" wouldn't clog a gnat's artery! Jeeze! > > > She doesn't really believe that. It's people who lack > > > anything to say who get tangled up in sweet nothings > > > like that. > > That is basically true ... However, I am now interested > > in why people home in on a certain subset of nothings > > out of the vast range available. > > What do you expect her to say, "I'm sorry I ate that sandwich because I > meant to stop eating because I hate my fat thighs/stomach/cheeks > [whatever] and I have no self control and I hate myself and > I wish I was anywhere but here in this stupid deadend job with people > who criticize my every comment" ? Don't you DARE joke about it! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 00:57:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S5v0tS024302 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 00:57:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 18EF51E60124; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 00:55:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD69A1E60123 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 00:55:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DDACD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 1:51:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12494920 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 01:51:55 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S5ptE01423 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 01:51:55 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DDAAE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 1:51:54 -0400 Message-Id: <200309280551.h8S5ptE01423@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 01:51:54 -0400 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: Oh, Doris! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bonnie, you did not drive me away from the list. Really. I was, and am, pretty mad at you, but I've been madder at other wordslers and it's never driven me away from the list, at least not for more than a day or two. I should probably have dropped you a note and let you know that I didn't leave because of you -- that was thoughtless of me; sorry. I left because the last year of my life has been really, really hard, I'm doing a lot of kind of dark wandering through complicated jungles, and phatic drivel just doesn't seem like any fun any more. I still stop by the archives every week or two, and Betty and one or two others keep me updated on the important stuff, so I haven't lost touch altogether. I may show up again one of these days, but right now, whenever I think about signing up again, I can't imagine why it ever seemed like a good idea -- so my guess is, not anytime soon. Hugs to all (even Bonnie, sort of), Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 03:40:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S8eltS025709 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 03:40:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 12E1C1E60134; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 03:39:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D63521E60132 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 03:39:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DDC10@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 4:35:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12498291 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 04:35:41 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S8ZeE18136 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 04:35:40 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h8S8ZZRP014555 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:35:35 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h8S8ZWUl014553 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:35:32 +0200 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:35:32 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Balls Message-ID: <20030928083532.GA14546@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3F7589C4.BD8BCBEE@maynor.net> <20030927150748.GA1747@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3F7616D2.596CAE0D@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F7616D2.596CAE0D@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = Soapy water on the mouse ball? I keep the top of my mouse clean with a no, on the gears. 409 would be ok too = = Why would smokers have sticky keyboards and mice? = = -- = -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) because they have sticky tobacco stuff on their fingers From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 03:41:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S8fWtS025718 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 03:41:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1D7B81E60134; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 03:40:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E57E11E60131 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 03:40:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0018074F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 4:36:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12498298 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 04:36:26 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S8aPE18158 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 04:36:25 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h8S8aORP014565 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:36:24 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h8S8aNSv014563 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:36:23 +0200 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:36:23 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Balls Message-ID: <20030928083623.GB14546@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3F7589C4.BD8BCBEE@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20030927075405.03bb3a70@mail.istori.com> <20030927152917.GC1747@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3F761793.A79FC8DC@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F761793.A79FC8DC@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor: = steph wrote: = = > You get other problems with optical mice. I've noticed that it's = > sensitive to the grain in the pine table I usually use that = > computer on. It's mildly irritating. = = You don't use a mousepad? = no. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 04:24:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8S9OQtS026071 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 04:24:26 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 48AE81E60131; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 04:23:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 160781E6002F for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 04:23:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DDC26@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 5:19:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12498499 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 05:19:19 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8S9JIE19515 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 05:19:18 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h8S9JHRP014605 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:19:17 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h8S9JGc7014603 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:19:16 +0200 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:19:16 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Balls Message-ID: <20030928091916.GC14546@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030927075405.03bb3a70@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20030927163851.03b87088@mail.istori.com> <20030928022307.GB26056@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030928022307.GB26056@pobox.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = Hm, maybe they are pretty good now ... I was wondering why = I have an aversion towards them, and it's because of bad = experiences about 19 years ago with Sun's optical mouses. I had an optical mouse for my XT about the same time. It needed a special reflective mouse pad, maybe polarized? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 05:21:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SALYtS026559 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 05:21:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BC6471E60135; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 05:20:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FA9B1E60134 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 05:20:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DDCB4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 6:16:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12499856 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 06:16:27 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SAGRE23414 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 06:16:27 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h8SAGPRP014677 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:16:25 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h8SAGPd5014675 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:16:25 +0200 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:16:24 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: from the gay librarians list Message-ID: <20030928101624.GD14546@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20030928022043.GA26056@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin: = On Sat, 27 Sep 2003, Tushar Samant wrote: = = > > > that a STICK OF BUTTER the size of that lame ass pissant = > > > "sandwich" wouldn't clog a gnat's artery! Jeeze! = > > She doesn't really believe that. It's people who lack = > > anything to say who get tangled up in sweet nothings = > > like that. = > That is basically true ... However, I am now interested = > in why people home in on a certain subset of nothings = > out of the vast range available. = = What do you expect her to say, "I'm sorry I ate that sandwich because I = meant to stop eating because I hate my fat thighs/stomach/cheeks = [whatever] and I have no self control and I hate myself and = I wish I was anywhere but here in this stupid deadend job with people = who criticize my every comment" ? = = Ann Do you live in my head or what? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 06:50:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SBoStS027441 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 06:50:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5112D1E6005D; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 06:49:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24EDA1E6005A for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 06:49:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DDD05@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 7:45:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12500698 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:45:21 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SBjKE26994 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:45:20 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.218]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030928114515.PMCV1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:45:15 -0400 Message-ID: <3F76C9CB.6D5DB031@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 06:45:15 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Mouse Is Fine References: <4.2.2.20030927195059.00a88100@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > > At 09:38 PM 9/27/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >I just played a game of Scrabble and found no aberrance in the mouse's > >behavior. > > Play again just to be sure. I will. Didn't get your injunction soon enough last night. I turned off the computer and went to bed. But I will no doubt play it again sometime this morning. I have other things to do first, though, like reading e-mail, checking news, eating breakfast, deciding whether to get dressed while dirty and wait until closer to the time when I'm going to the community theatre to take a shower, etc. etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 06:52:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SBqEtS027459 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 06:52:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F316C1E60061; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 06:51:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C494B1E6005D for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 06:51:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DDD14@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 7:47:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12500705 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:47:06 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SBl6E27072 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:47:06 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.218]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030928114701.PMHN1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:47:01 -0400 Message-ID: <3F76CA35.1539D535@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 06:47:01 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: WHTMIC References: <4.2.2.20030927193436.00a4f870@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20030927195220.00a89a70@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > >Why? To get home. Ten hours isn't all that long. If I thought a > >ten-hour drive was long, I would never have made it to or from > >Acadiafest. > > Too long for me. Do you take lots of little breaks or do you just keep > right on driving? A good many little tiny breaks -- never more than five-minute ones. That's if I'm on interstates that have rest areas. I take very few breaks on other highways. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 06:53:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SBrktS027472 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 06:53:46 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8876F1E6005D; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 06:52:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B2D71E6005A for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 06:52:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018084A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 7:48:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12500726 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:48:38 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SBmbE27125 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:48:37 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.218]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030928114832.PMLE1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:48:32 -0400 Message-ID: <3F76CA90.4C766ADB@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 06:48:32 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weird References: <20030928023540.43865.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> <001101c3856d$5658de60$facadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > And I hope she does. Sissy Spacek is > not on my list of favorites. Why? I'm pretty sure I know what she looks like -- blonde, straight, wispy hair, sleepy eyes? Was she the coal-miner's daughter? But I don't really have an about her. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 06:56:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SBuHtS027486 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 06:56:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 087F21E60061; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 06:55:10 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC84E1E6005D for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 06:55:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018084C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 7:51:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12500746 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:51:09 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SBp9E27236 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:51:09 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.218]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030928115104.PMQP1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:51:04 -0400 Message-ID: <3F76CB28.EA43ADAE@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 06:51:04 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: College football References: <20030928030910.45542.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > It seems that I remember the record was 8 over-times, > but I don't recall the teams, except that one was > probably an SEC team. Why did overtimes start? I also can't remember when it was, but I'm more interested in the why. I guess it makes for less messiness to have only two columns, W and L. Was that why they decided to get rid of ties? > What happened to Larry's dog after he ate the frog? > The dog, I mean. Larry's dog ate a dog? I thought he had eaten a frog? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 06:59:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SBxDtS027516 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 06:59:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 51FCA1E6005D; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 06:58:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25A371E6005A for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 06:58:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00180854@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 7:54:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12500798 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:54:04 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SBs4E27337 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:54:04 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.218]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030928115359.PNAD1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:53:59 -0400 Message-ID: <3F76CBD7.BAFE949@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 06:53:59 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: le weekend References: <11d.26678b40.2ca7b487@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > You wouldn't say that if you had ever been in one, as I have. If I got to the > point where I needed a lot of help, I think I would hire a private nurse or > fulltime house keeper. The cost would probably run about the same amount > because those places ain't cheap either. The cost was quite a bit higher in my mother's experience with home help. She paid about $10,000 a month for home care as opposed to about $3,000 a month for nursing-home care, the latter of which included things like food and electricity. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 07:02:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SC2LtS027544 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:02:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5D7341E6005D; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:01:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D6B01E6005A for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:01:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00180852@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 7:57:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12500883 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:57:13 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SBvCE27528 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:57:13 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.218]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030928115707.PNIV1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:57:07 -0400 Message-ID: <3F76CC94.F471B780@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 06:57:08 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: WHTMIC References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > It's strange that people from other places, as a friend of mine, think of > Colorado as being a nasty cold place. He couldn't believe how nice it was when he > actually came to visit. I had tried to tell him, but he wouldn't believe me, > and then he couldn't believe how wrong he'd been! But we know better, huh? I don't think your friend represents the typical view. Most people in my experience think of Colorado as beautiful and pleasant, whether they've ever been there or not. I'm one of those people who think that without having ever been there, although I did drive through it one time a long time ago -- a quick zip, no stopping -- didn't even get out of the car, iirc, which means I don't think of it as a state I've ever visited. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 07:06:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SC69tS027586 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:06:09 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 16C4B1E60061; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:05:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE6D31E6005A for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:05:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DDD27@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 8:01:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12500910 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:01:01 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SC11E27699 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:01:01 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.218]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030928120056.PNUZ1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:00:56 -0400 Message-ID: <3F76CD78.F9F94885@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:00:56 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Balls References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > You turn off your computer? What happens to the stuff in it's memory? I find this question too amazing to be able to think of how to answer it. (And I can't explain it actually since I don't really understand the inner workings of things like BIOS.) > I never turn off my > MAC, but it has a feature that lets you put it to sleep. It saves money on power > usage, but doesn't touch the program inside of it. I think pretty much all computers have the sleep feature these days. I turn mine off for various reasons, including the possibility of a surprise thunder storm. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 07:07:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SC7ctS027611 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:07:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7683D1E6005F; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:06:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B0E11E6005A for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:06:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DDD38@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 8:02:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12500921 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:02:30 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SC2UE27766 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:02:30 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.218]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030928120224.POAT1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:02:24 -0400 Message-ID: <3F76CDD1.39F9D5A7@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:02:25 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Oh, Doris! References: <200309280551.h8S5ptE01423@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I hope you come to the edge of the jungle, Verdant, and once again see the value of phatic drivel. We miss you! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 07:08:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SC8OtS027625 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:08:24 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4971A1E60061; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:07:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D56F1E6005F for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:07:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DDD1A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 8:03:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12500927 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:03:16 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SC3FE27792 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:03:16 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.218]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030928120310.POEB1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:03:10 -0400 Message-ID: <3F76CDFF.5B6BD116@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:03:11 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Balls References: <3F7589C4.BD8BCBEE@maynor.net> <20030927150748.GA1747@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3F7616D2.596CAE0D@maynor.net> <20030928083532.GA14546@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > = Why would smokers have sticky keyboards and mice? > > because they have sticky tobacco stuff on their fingers Weird. I've never thought of tobacco as sticky. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 07:09:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SC9RtS027643 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:09:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 660401E6005D; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:08:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38AFC1E6005A for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:08:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DDD3A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 8:04:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12500939 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:04:19 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SC4GE27864 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:04:16 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.218]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030928120410.POIA1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:04:10 -0400 Message-ID: <3F76CE3B.95DB7619@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:04:11 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Balls References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030927075405.03bb3a70@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20030927163851.03b87088@mail.istori.com> <20030928022307.GB26056@pobox.com> <20030928091916.GC14546@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > a special reflective mouse pad, maybe polarized? Is that like putting arctic-looking things in the zoo area where polar bears live -- to make the polar mouse feel at home? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 07:37:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SCb0tS027928 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:37:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 64CA21E60061; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:35:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32E0F1E6005F for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:35:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00180876@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 8:31:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12501198 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:31:52 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SCVpE29010 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:31:51 -0400 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com[12.240.11.178]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003092812314601300efiuke>; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:31:46 +0000 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20030928053149.00a969e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bfclark2@mail.comcast.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 05:32:58 -0700 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: BF Clark Subject: Sly One Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hope all your grandchildren are present to celebrate your birthday today. Have a good one. BB From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 07:44:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SCi3tS027997 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:44:03 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A97D11E60061; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:42:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 793E41E6005F for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:42:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00180884@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 8:38:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12501268 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:38:51 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SCcoE29306 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:38:51 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h8SCcnRP014902 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 14:38:49 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h8SCcnD9014900 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 14:38:49 +0200 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 14:38:49 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Balls Message-ID: <20030928123849.GA14894@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3F7589C4.BD8BCBEE@maynor.net> <20030927150748.GA1747@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3F7616D2.596CAE0D@maynor.net> <20030928083532.GA14546@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3F76CDFF.5B6BD116@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F76CDFF.5B6BD116@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor: = steph wrote: = > = Why would smokers have sticky keyboards and mice? = > = > because they have sticky tobacco stuff on their fingers = = Weird. I've never thought of tobacco as sticky. = You are probly 1) a clean hands person and 2) don't smoke self rolled non filter cigarettes. Do you think of tar as sticky? That's what people get on their fingers when they smoke, right? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 07:45:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SCjVtS028034 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:45:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 265EE1E60061; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:44:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDCAC1E6005F for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:44:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DDD3C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 8:40:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12501288 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:40:23 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SCeME29374 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:40:22 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h8SCeLRP014919 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 14:40:21 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h8SCeKlq014917 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 14:40:20 +0200 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 14:40:20 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Balls Message-ID: <20030928124020.GB14894@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030927075405.03bb3a70@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20030927163851.03b87088@mail.istori.com> <20030928022307.GB26056@pobox.com> <20030928091916.GC14546@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3F76CE3B.95DB7619@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F76CE3B.95DB7619@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor: = steph wrote: = = > a special reflective mouse pad, maybe polarized? = = Is that like putting arctic-looking things in the zoo area where polar = bears live -- to make the polar mouse feel at home? = no. polarized like sunglasses, to make the light go only in one direction. if you have two pairs of polarized sunglasses you can put them at right angles to block out all the light. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 07:52:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SCqdtS028077 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:52:39 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 106681E60061; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:51:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D46911E6005F for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:51:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DDD64@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 8:47:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12501399 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:47:30 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SClUE29709 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:47:30 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-176.gwi.net [216.195.153.176]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h8SClSQU037598 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:47:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030928084638.00b3c608@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:47:33 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: I matched Julia Roberts In-Reply-To: <3F764488.E0F7A5E2@maynor.net> References: <168.2447ddab.2ca786f8@aol.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20030927220113.00b817c8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > >Gwyneth Paltrow and I are like this: || > > > > Uh, huh. For me it is Helen Hunt. > >I just tried it and am Sissy Spacek. > -- Natalie Well, bless your heart. I had mother and daughter (plus husbands) Texans at the Inn last night. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 07:55:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SCtrtS028088 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:55:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 195E61E60061; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:54:45 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDA6C1E6005F for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:54:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DDD57@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 8:50:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12501437 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:50:44 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SCoiE29822 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:50:44 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-176.gwi.net [216.195.153.176]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h8SCogYp042814 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:50:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030928085002.00b87328@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:50:48 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: from the gay librarians list In-Reply-To: <20030928023740.GA2431@pobox.com> References: <20030928023216.59486.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> <20030928022043.GA26056@pobox.com> <20030928023216.59486.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Cholesterol is trendy at present. > > All sorts of disgusting things are trendy now. > >Where, in inner Alabama? Seems like many people are on the Atkins Diet -- eating lots of fat and meat. Susan, at the Inn, is noticeably thinner since she has been on it. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 08:05:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SD5ctS028171 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:05:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2A17C1E60138; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:04:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE8A31E60061 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:04:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DDD66@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 9:00:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12501712 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 09:00:29 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SD0TE30455 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 09:00:29 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.218]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030928130024.UBUL1810.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 09:00:24 -0400 Message-ID: <3F76DB68.D4CC80D7@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:00:24 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sly One References: <4.2.2.20030928053149.00a969e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU HB, Sly! And say something. You have been silent for too long. Have you and Brad run away together? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 08:06:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SD6ltS028186 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:06:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2DDFE1E60138; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:05:39 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F39F81E60061 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:05:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DDD6D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 9:01:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12501786 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 09:01:39 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SD1cE30617 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 09:01:38 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.218]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030928130133.UBYO1810.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 09:01:33 -0400 Message-ID: <3F76DBAE.93EA914B@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:01:34 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Balls References: <3F7589C4.BD8BCBEE@maynor.net> <20030927150748.GA1747@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3F7616D2.596CAE0D@maynor.net> <20030928083532.GA14546@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3F76CDFF.5B6BD116@maynor.net> <20030928123849.GA14894@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > Do you think of tar as sticky? That's what people get on their > fingers when they smoke, right? Tar is that black stuff involved in street repairs, right? I think of it as sticky, but I've never encountered it --as in seen it or felt it -- in cigarettes. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 08:07:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SD7QtS028192 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:07:26 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 22A1E1E60138; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:06:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F381E60061 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:06:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DDD7E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 9:02:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12501805 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 09:02:18 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SD2HE30709 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 09:02:17 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.218]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030928130212.UCBM1810.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 09:02:12 -0400 Message-ID: <3F76DBD5.E7A20BFD@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:02:13 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Balls References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030927075405.03bb3a70@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20030927163851.03b87088@mail.istori.com> <20030928022307.GB26056@pobox.com> <20030928091916.GC14546@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3F76CE3B.95DB7619@maynor.net> <20030928124020.GB14894@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > = Is that like putting arctic-looking things in the zoo area where polar > = bears live -- to make the polar mouse feel at home? > = > no. polarized like sunglasses, to make the light go only in one > direction. if you have two pairs of polarized sunglasses you can > put them at right angles to block out all the light. . I need to start adding smilies. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 08:25:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SDPftS028347 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:25:41 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 369F01E6013D; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:24:33 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A2B11E60138 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:24:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DDD96@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 9:20:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12502170 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 09:20:33 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SDKWE32381 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 09:20:32 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-211.gwi.net [216.195.152.211]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h8SDKTQW040075; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 09:20:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030928091818.00b16110@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 09:19:54 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Balls In-Reply-To: <20030928083532.GA14546@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3F7616D2.596CAE0D@maynor.net> <3F7589C4.BD8BCBEE@maynor.net> <20030927150748.GA1747@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3F7616D2.596CAE0D@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:35 AM 9/28/2003 +0200, steph wrote: >= Soapy water on the mouse ball? I keep the top of my mouse clean with a > >no, on the gears. 409 would be ok too > >= >= Why would smokers have sticky keyboards and mice? >= >= -- >= -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > >because they have sticky tobacco stuff on their fingers Also, the tars released during combustion of the tobacco eventually come to rest on surfaces. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 08:28:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SDSAtS028374 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:28:10 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1A10B1E6013B; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:27:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDDFB1E60138 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:27:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DDD9F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 9:23:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12502245 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 09:23:01 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SDN0E32568 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 09:23:01 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-211.gwi.net [216.195.152.211]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h8SDMYQW040499; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 09:22:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030928092006.00b2a680@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 09:22:00 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: WHTMIC In-Reply-To: <20030928023355.87191.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030927221606.00b15e48@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:33 PM 9/27/2003 -0700, Lynne Weber wrote: >What ever became of "Beefalo" (sp?)? Good question. I haven't heard anything about them for some time. Probably, it is easier (and in the long run, cheaper) to just raise bison rather than mess with hybrids. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 08:31:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SDVKtS028408 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:31:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 130CE1E6013B; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:30:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAB291E60138 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:30:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DDDA7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 9:26:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12502328 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 09:26:11 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SDQBE00308 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 09:26:11 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8SDQB8b017020 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 09:26:11 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.103]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h8SDQ9fC029098 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 09:26:10 -0400 Message-ID: <004101c385be$a9555c50$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3F7616D2.596CAE0D@maynor.net> <3F7589C4.BD8BCBEE@maynor.net> <20030927150748.GA1747@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3F7616D2.596CAE0D@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20030928091818.00b16110@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: Re: Balls Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:47:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm jumping in the middle of this chat, so maybe you're already covered it, but there is this grunge that builds up on keyboards... a director of MIS at URI had small patches on the keys of his keyboard that were white... the rest of the keys had this black wax-like stuff on 'em. Yuck... What is that? Oils from his fingers? 8-| From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 09:30:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SEU9tS028898 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 09:30:09 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F3C241E6013D; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 09:29:00 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C44EA1E6013B for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 09:29:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DDE43@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 10:25:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12503497 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:25:00 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SEP0E03867 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:25:00 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.218]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030928142455.REKO1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:24:55 -0400 Message-ID: <3F76EF37.1AAADB77@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 09:24:55 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Balls References: <3F7616D2.596CAE0D@maynor.net> <3F7589C4.BD8BCBEE@maynor.net> <20030927150748.GA1747@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3F7616D2.596CAE0D@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20030928091818.00b16110@pop.gwi.net> <004101c385be$a9555c50$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I am happy to report that my mouse's behavior this morning is perfect. I played a game of Scrabble a little while ago and found the mouse peppy and cooperative. So instead of digging around in its guts, I'm about to go iron my new shower curtain and hang it. I'm hoping that an old plastic one will do as a liner. I started to buy a fancy liner with claims of never allowing mildew etc. etc., but then I decided not to. I'm already tired of cold weather. Well, not really COLD exactly, but cool enough to make my bare toes uncomfortable. It's great sleeping weather, but that's the only good thing about it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 10:03:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SF38tS029184 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:03:08 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2186E1E6013B; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:01:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4E4F1E60064 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:01:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DDE73@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 10:57:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12504007 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:57:58 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SEvwE05708 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:57:58 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h8SEvujI029921 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 09:57:57 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <003a01c385d1$ed209360$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20030928023540.43865.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> <001101c3856d$5658de60$facadece@0018079268> <3F76CA90.4C766ADB@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Weird Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:05:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Doris Markland wrote: > > > And I hope she does. Sissy Spacek is > > not on my list of favorites. > > Why? I'm pretty sure I know what she looks like -- blonde, straight, > wispy hair, sleepy eyes? Was she the coal-miner's daughter? But I > don't really have an about her. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) It is not an opinion about her personally. I just don't enjoy her as an actress, in movies. Maybe it's her appearance. She has worn the same hairdo for some time . . pulled back loosely, with most of it falling in her face. It is most unbecoming and distracting. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 10:13:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SFDntS029313 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:13:50 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E1EF61E6013B; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:12:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B59ED1E60064 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:12:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DDE7D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 11:08:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12504374 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:08:40 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SF8eE06598 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:08:40 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h8SF8cjI012960 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:08:39 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <005701c385d3$6b9311e0$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20030928023216.59486.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> <20030928022043.GA26056@pobox.com> <20030928023216.59486.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20030928085002.00b87328@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: Re: from the gay librarians list Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:15:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Seems like many people are on the Atkins Diet -- eating lots of fat and > meat. Susan, at the Inn, is noticeably thinner since she has been on it. > > > bonnie I know several people on that diet too. One, however, ran into trouble because he was prone to gout, and the diet sent him into the worst case of it ever. He had dropped 15 lb on the diet though, and I think he's been able to continue on the diet after getting advice on how to modify it. I asked my doctor at Mayo's for his opinion on the Atkins diet, and he spoke highly of it. I haven't tried it though because we're trying to stick with advice Gene was given after his heart surgery, namely to remove fat from diet. We are still puzzled about the cholesterol thing. Gene has very low cholesterol, low LDL and high HDL. He should never have been a candidate for heart trouble. I think the cholesterol theory has outlived it's time and may be keeping the scientists from finding the true culprit. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 10:21:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SFLDtS029388 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:21:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 440621E6013E; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:20:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1404A1E6013B for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:20:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DDEB6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 11:16:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12504609 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:16:04 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SFG3E07227 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:16:03 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8SFG2W1016448 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:16:02 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8SFG1Wq016430; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:16:01 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20030928081609.00aabbd0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:17:12 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: from the gay librarians list In-Reply-To: <005701c385d3$6b9311e0$facadece@0018079268> References: <20030928023216.59486.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> <20030928022043.GA26056@pobox.com> <20030928023216.59486.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20030928085002.00b87328@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:15 AM 9/28/2003 -0500, Doris Markland wrote: >We are still puzzled about the cholesterol thing. >Gene has very low cholesterol, low LDL and high HDL. He should never >have been a candidate for heart trouble. I think the cholesterol theory >has outlived it's time and may be keeping the scientists from finding >the true culprit. > > - D. M. Was there a family history? It's in the genes. Who named him that? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 10:31:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SFVTtS029480 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:31:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A61EF1E6013F; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:30:20 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C56D1E6013E for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:30:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001809FD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 11:26:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12504920 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:26:18 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SFQIE07853 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:26:18 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h8SFQGjI006234 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:26:17 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000401c385d5$e21d38c0$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20030928023216.59486.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> <20030928022043.GA26056@pobox.com> <20030928023216.59486.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20030928085002.00b87328@pop.gwi.net> <4.2.2.20030928081609.00aabbd0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: Re: from the gay librarians list Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:33:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > At 10:15 AM 9/28/2003 -0500, Doris Markland wrote: > >We are still puzzled about the cholesterol thing. > >Gene has very low cholesterol, low LDL and high HDL. He should never > >have been a candidate for heart trouble. I think the cholesterol theory > >has outlived it's time and may be keeping the scientists from finding > >the true culprit. > > > > - D. M. > > Was there a family history? It's in the genes. Who named him that? > > Betty Ha! Gene's genes! We aren't aware of much family history of heart problems. But even if there were we would still wonder about the cause. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 10:32:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SFWLtS029494 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:32:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C883C1E6013E; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:31:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 988A31E6013B for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:31:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DDEB9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 11:27:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12504940 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:27:12 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SFRCE07922 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:27:12 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h8SFR8jI007184 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:27:10 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000d01c385d6$014fac00$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Help Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:34:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h8SFWLtS029494 Would someone send me Sly's e-address? Thanks. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 10:35:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SFZutS029535 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:35:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0048A1E6013E; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:34:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C10031E6013B for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:34:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DDEDD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 11:30:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12504991 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:30:46 -0400 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8SFUkE08091 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:30:46 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:30:45 PDT Message-ID: <20030928153045.94952.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:30:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Weird To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F76CA90.4C766ADB@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Why? I'm pretty sure I know what she looks like -- > blonde, straight, > wispy hair, sleepy eyes? Was she the coal-miner's > daughter? But I > don't really have an about her. I find her a fair actress, but a little hard to look at. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 10:42:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SFgStS029592 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:42:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4F49F1E6013E; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:41:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FFD31E6013B for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:41:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DDEF3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 11:37:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12505181 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:37:19 -0400 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8SFbIE08530 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:37:18 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:37:18 PDT Message-ID: <20030928153718.37831.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:37:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: College football To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20030927205625.00a49e20@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > He foamed at the mouth. > > Betty Yeah, yeah, but after that. Is he still with you, or did he croak (the dog)? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 10:48:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SFmFtS029693 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:48:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0F7211E6013F; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:47:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3DF21E6013E for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:47:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DDEE1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 11:43:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12505318 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:43:05 -0400 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8SFh5E08971 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:43:05 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:43:04 PDT Message-ID: <20030928154304.85265.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:43:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Balls To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F76CE3B.95DB7619@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Is that like putting arctic-looking things in the > zoo area where polar > bears live -- to make the polar mouse feel at home? The real danger is a bipolar mouse. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 10:50:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SFoltS029709 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:50:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A13D21E6013F; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:49:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D71E1E6013E for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:49:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DDEFD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 11:45:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12505458 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:45:38 -0400 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8SFjcE09207 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:45:38 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:45:37 PDT Message-ID: <20030928154537.947.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:45:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: I matched Julia Roberts To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030928084638.00b3c608@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Well, bless your heart. I had mother and daughter > (plus husbands) Texans > at the Inn last night. > > > bonnie In all fairness to them, Texans are not true Southroners. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 10:55:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SFthtS029744 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:55:43 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DECA31E60144; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:54:33 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA521E60141 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:54:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00180A69@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 11:50:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12506298 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:50:33 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SFoXE10805 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:50:33 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-211.gwi.net [216.195.152.211]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h8SFoTYr062042; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:50:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030928114133.00b3ed08@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:46:13 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: from the gay librarians list In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20030928081609.00aabbd0@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <005701c385d3$6b9311e0$facadece@0018079268> <20030928023216.59486.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> <20030928022043.GA26056@pobox.com> <20030928023216.59486.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20030928085002.00b87328@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:17 AM 9/28/2003 -0700, Betty wrote: . >>Gene has very low cholesterol, low LDL and high HDL. He should never >>have been a candidate for heart trouble. I think the cholesterol theory >>has outlived it's time and may be keeping the scientists from finding >>the true culprit. >> >> > >Was there a family history? It's in the genes. That doesn't seem to explain Gene's situation---usually, those genetically predisposed to cholesterol problems have high levels of LDL. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 11:03:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SG3DtS029818 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:03:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2B5AE1E6013F; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:02:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF9401E60068 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:02:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DDF77@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 11:58:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12506710 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:58:03 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SFw3E11517 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:58:03 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-211.gwi.net [216.195.152.211]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h8SFw0Yr062962; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:58:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030928114702.00b4fd00@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:55:27 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: from the gay librarians list In-Reply-To: <005701c385d3$6b9311e0$facadece@0018079268> References: <20030928023216.59486.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> <20030928022043.GA26056@pobox.com> <20030928023216.59486.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20030928085002.00b87328@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:15 AM 9/28/2003 -0500, Doris Markland wrote: >I asked my doctor at Mayo's for his opinion on the Atkins diet, and he >spoke highly of it. >I haven't tried it though because we're trying to stick with advice Gene >was given after his heart surgery, namely to remove fat from diet. From what I've read and heard (including from my physician) there are three strategies: (1) signficantly reduce fat intake or (2) significantly reduce other energy sources, e.g., simple carbohydrates, so that the fat you ingest is used as fuel (the Atkins strategy) or (3) do some of both. Given that humans have evolved as omnivores---and have done reasonably well at it---I'm rather skeptical of any regimen that eliminates a basic food source. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 11:04:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SG4ptS029840 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:04:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 11A0F1E6013F; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:03:42 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6A291E60068 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:03:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DDF83@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 11:59:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12506807 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:59:35 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law9-oe59.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SFxZE11678 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:59:35 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:59:29 -0700 Received: from 199.174.1.97 by law9-oe59.law9.hotmail.com with DAV; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 15:59:29 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [199.174.1.97] X-Originating-Email: [amyb_short@hotmail.com] From: "Amy Burns Short" To: Subject: Re: from the gay librarians list Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:57:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Sep 2003 15:59:29.0758 (UTC) FILETIME=[7FF3AFE0:01C385D9] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU D.M. -- >I know several people on that diet too. >One, however, ran into trouble because he was prone to gout, and the >diet sent him into the worst case of it ever. He had dropped 15 lb on >the diet though, and I think he's been able to continue on the diet >after getting advice on how to modify it. I've lost 25 pounds in less than three months, and I am going to have to get my engagement ring re-sized pretty soon. This regime has been pretty easy because two other people in my office are on it, I don't care for a lot of the restricted foods anyway, and I am not stressed out about weight/body image and all that in general. My goal is to increase my "healthiness," as it were. If I were to lose an additional 50 pounds (which would put me at my longstanding pre-Carl weight) in the next year, that would be great -- but I would also be happy with any portion of that. More info is here: www.atkins.com AS From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 11:14:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SGECtS029927 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:14:12 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D31471E60144; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:13:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3FF41E6013F for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:13:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DDFD5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 12:09:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12507353 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:09:02 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SG92E12931 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:09:02 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.218]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030928160857.GJYZ1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:08:57 -0400 Message-ID: <3F770799.AAF628F9@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:08:57 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Balls References: <20030928154304.85265.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > The real danger is a bipolar mouse. I thought that's why they have two buttons -- you can control the polarization. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 11:31:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SGVJtS030133 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:31:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CCBD51E60148; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:30:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 993D81E60146 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:30:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DE02C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 12:26:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12508281 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:26:09 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SGQ9E15698 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:26:09 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00180B46@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 12:26:08 -0400 Message-Id: <200309281626.h8SGQ9E15698@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:26:09 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: from the gay librarians list To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 00:26:18 -0500, Tushar Samant wrote: >02003-09-27 | Lynne Weber writes: >> > There's nothing to "enlighten". If you stop hearing a threat >> > in every post, you will get the point. >> >> Okay. Okay. > >My sex-obsessed trap seems to be working ... We used to call that "potty mouth". clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 11:36:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SGa5tS030166 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:36:05 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B5ED21E6014A; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:34:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8643B1E60149 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:34:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DE069@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 12:30:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12508548 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:30:55 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SGUtE16333 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:30:55 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00180B59@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 12:30:54 -0400 Message-Id: <200309281630.h8SGUtE16333@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:30:55 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: from the gay librarians list To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:15:57 -0500, Doris Markland wrote: >> Seems like many people are on the Atkins Diet -- eating lots of fat >and >> meat. Susan, at the Inn, is noticeably thinner since she has been on >it. >> >> >> bonnie > >I know several people on that diet too. >One, however, ran into trouble because he was prone to gout, and the >diet sent him into the worst case of it ever. He had dropped 15 lb on >the diet though, and I think he's been able to continue on the diet >after getting advice on how to modify it. > >I asked my doctor at Mayo's for his opinion on the Atkins diet, and he >spoke highly of it. >I haven't tried it though because we're trying to stick with advice Gene >was given after his heart surgery, namely to remove fat from diet. > >We are still puzzled about the cholesterol thing. >Gene has very low cholesterol, low LDL and high HDL. He should never >have been a candidate for heart trouble. I think the cholesterol theory >has outlived it's time and may be keeping the scientists from finding >the true culprit. > > - D. M. google on inflammation and heart disease, or something similar. Also, the low-fat to low-cholesterol connection has been strongly questioned... a low-carb diet (of which Atkins is an extreme example) has been shown to lower cholesterol in spite of the high fat content of the meat. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 11:39:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SGdctS030228 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:39:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2266D1E6014A; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:38:29 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6DB31E60149 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:38:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DE07F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 12:34:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12508756 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:34:28 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SGYSE16744 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:34:28 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h8SGYNRP015365 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:34:23 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h8SGYMU5015363 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:34:22 +0200 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:34:22 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Balls Message-ID: <20030928163422.GA15357@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030927075405.03bb3a70@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20030927163851.03b87088@mail.istori.com> <20030928022307.GB26056@pobox.com> <20030928091916.GC14546@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3F76CE3B.95DB7619@maynor.net> <20030928124020.GB14894@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3F76DBD5.E7A20BFD@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F76DBD5.E7A20BFD@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor: = steph wrote: = = > = Is that like putting arctic-looking things in the zoo area where polar = > = bears live -- to make the polar mouse feel at home? = > = = > no. polarized like sunglasses, to make the light go only in one = > direction. if you have two pairs of polarized sunglasses you can = > put them at right angles to block out all the light. = = . I need to start adding smilies. = me too. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 11:41:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SGfPtS030235 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:41:25 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CF11C1E6014A; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:40:15 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 974771E60149 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:40:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DE06D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 12:36:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12508861 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:36:15 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SGaEE16899 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:36:14 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h8SGaDRP015375 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:36:13 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h8SGaDD6015373 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:36:13 +0200 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:36:12 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Balls Message-ID: <20030928163612.GB15357@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3F7616D2.596CAE0D@maynor.net> <3F7589C4.BD8BCBEE@maynor.net> <20030927150748.GA1747@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3F7616D2.596CAE0D@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20030928091818.00b16110@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030928091818.00b16110@pop.gwi.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = >= = >= Why would smokers have sticky keyboards and mice? = > = >because they have sticky tobacco stuff on their fingers = = Also, the tars released during combustion of the tobacco eventually come to = rest on surfaces. = = cwv Yeah, but at work the smokers can't smoke at their desks and they still have dirtier keyboards and mice. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 11:42:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SGgEtS030240 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:42:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7A1A71E6014A; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:41:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A98C1E60149 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:41:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00180B7D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 12:37:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12508876 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:37:03 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SGb2E16947 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:37:02 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h8SGb1RP015385 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:37:01 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h8SGb0iI015383 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:37:00 +0200 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:37:00 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Balls Message-ID: <20030928163700.GC15357@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3F7616D2.596CAE0D@maynor.net> <3F7589C4.BD8BCBEE@maynor.net> <20030927150748.GA1747@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3F7616D2.596CAE0D@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20030928091818.00b16110@pop.gwi.net> <004101c385be$a9555c50$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <004101c385be$a9555c50$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alan Wild: = I'm jumping in the middle of this chat, so maybe you're already covered it, = but there is this grunge that builds up on keyboards... a director of MIS at = URI had small patches on the keys of his keyboard that were white... the = rest of the keys had this black wax-like stuff on 'em. Yuck... What is = that? Oils from his fingers? = = 8-| exactly. does he smoke? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 11:42:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SGgktS030244 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:42:46 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0C4321E6014B; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:41:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D18711E6014A for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:41:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DE080@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 12:37:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12508907 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:37:36 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SGbaE16985 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:37:36 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8SGbZHL020502 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 09:37:35 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8SGbSjD020419; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 09:37:28 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20030928093817.00a297d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 09:38:39 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: College football In-Reply-To: <20030928153718.37831.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> References: <4.2.2.20030927205625.00a49e20@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:37 AM 9/28/2003 -0700, Lynne Weber wrote: > > He foamed at the mouth. > > > > Betty > >Yeah, yeah, but after that. Is he still with you, or >did he croak (the dog)? Long gone. Ran off with the princess, I think. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 12:00:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SH0ktS030493 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:00:46 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BE1F71E6014A; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:59:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AC3A1E60149 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:59:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DE0E1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 12:55:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12509696 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:55:36 -0400 Received: from fe3.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SGtaE18397 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:55:36 -0400 Received: from [151.199.58.96] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO bc.edu) by fe3.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.1) with ESMTP id 32418270 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:55:30 -0400 Message-ID: <3F77127D.3050008@bc.edu> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:55:25 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I matched Julia Roberts References: <168.2447ddab.2ca786f8@aol.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20030927220113.00b817c8@pop.gwi.net> <3F764488.E0F7A5E2@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <3F764488.E0F7A5E2@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > >I just tried it and am Sissy Spacek. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > And I am just like Sarah Jessica Parker...NOT. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 12:23:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SHMwtS030727 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:23:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 667691E6014A; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:21:48 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 379391E60149 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:21:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00180C54@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 13:17:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12510314 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 13:17:48 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SH7mE19726 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 13:07:48 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8SH7FXU012152 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Sun, 28 Sep 2003 13:07:15 -0400 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 13:07:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: done! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: hits=0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU We moved all the last items yesterday - and cleaned. Someone is buying my appliances and furniture discards - the appliances will be picked up this afternoon, the furniture tomorrow. That's it. So ends an era. Bethany former icon of the Old City now newbie at Hamilton House From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 12:45:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SHj5tS030969 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:45:05 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 954581E6006C; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:43:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63A0A1E60149 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:43:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DE18C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 13:24:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12511348 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 13:24:47 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SHOkE22175 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 13:24:46 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[66.31.143.74]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20030928172440013009uvsre> (Authid: adamh1); Sun, 28 Sep 2003 17:24:40 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Simple carbs (was: from the gay librarians list) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 13:24:38 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030928114702.00b4fd00@pop.gwi.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Skrev Clyde: > both. Given that humans have evolved as omnivores---and have done > reasonably well at it---I'm rather skeptical of any regimen that > eliminates a basic food source. But that's just the thing - many (but not all) simple carbohydrate-laden foods are highly processed - wheat kernels must be stripped and ground into flour, rice has the endosperm and bran removed, sugar cane juice, beet juice, and maple sap must have the water driven out of it. Starchy tubers and fruit are about the only naturally occurring sources of simple carbs I can think of, and those take a long time to grow and ripen. I think the Atkins-type diets actually return the body to what it was originally eating before food technology came to, uh, fruition. --Adam adamh1@comcast.net From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 12:45:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SHj5tS030968 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:45:05 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 91A031E6014A; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:43:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61C201E6006C for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:43:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DE16E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 13:13:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12510763 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 13:13:42 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SHDfE20631 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 13:13:41 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8SHDf8b020089 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 13:13:41 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.103]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h8SHDdfC017305 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 13:13:40 -0400 Message-ID: <00c101c385de$71346940$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3F7616D2.596CAE0D@maynor.net> <3F7589C4.BD8BCBEE@maynor.net> <20030927150748.GA1747@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3F7616D2.596CAE0D@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20030928091818.00b16110@pop.gwi.net> <004101c385be$a9555c50$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <20030928163700.GC15357@yoccoz.multinix.com> Subject: Re: Re: Balls Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:34:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "steph" To: Sent: Sunday, 28 September, 2003 12:37 PM Subject: Re: Balls > Alan Wild: > = I'm jumping in the middle of this chat, so maybe you're already covered it, > = but there is this grunge that builds up on keyboards... a director of MIS at > = URI had small patches on the keys of his keyboard that were white... the > = rest of the keys had this black wax-like stuff on 'em. Yuck... What is > = that? Oils from his fingers? > = > = 8-| > > exactly. does he smoke? Nope... Not a smoker... He just looks out the window, and writes/types all day long. 'The perfect administrator, he waits until things are in a complete state of crisis and then acts, thereby having all his decisions rendered/forced for him. He even used to get his managers to sign all of his important expenditures until the VP forced him to sit and sign a stack of purchase orders about a year ago. Under his reign, over $1M was wasted after buried conduit had to be dug up and re-wired with the correct fiber spec. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 13:56:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SIuctS031842 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 13:56:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A37431E60157; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 13:55:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75F2F1E60156 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 13:55:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DE3DF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 14:51:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12516700 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 14:51:27 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SIpRE31818 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 14:51:27 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8SIpQd03381 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 13:51:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 5ACBC16B4; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 13:51:26 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 13:51:26 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Balls Message-ID: <20030928185126.GA3276@pobox.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030927075405.03bb3a70@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20030927163851.03b87088@mail.istori.com> <20030928022307.GB26056@pobox.com> <20030928091916.GC14546@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3F76CE3B.95DB7619@maynor.net> <20030928124020.GB14894@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3F76DBD5.E7A20BFD@maynor.net> <20030928163422.GA15357@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030928163422.GA15357@yoccoz.multinix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-28 | steph writes: > Natalie Maynor: > = steph wrote: > = > = > = Is that like putting arctic-looking things in the zoo area where polar > = > = bears live -- to make the polar mouse feel at home? > = > = > = > no. polarized like sunglasses, to make the light go only in one > = > direction. if you have two pairs of polarized sunglasses you can > = > put them at right angles to block out all the light. > = > = . I need to start adding smilies. > > me too. Why? Your post has nothing but completely straight statements. As far as I know a smiley does not mean "I acknowledge your humorously whimsical jokey-joke but am adding an explanation which you don't care about" ... In particular, a smiley would not have stopped Dr Maynor's dramatic sigh ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 13:58:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SIwItS031853 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 13:58:18 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D30E61E60155; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 13:57:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2F721E6006D for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 13:57:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DE3E6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 14:53:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12516760 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 14:53:07 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SIr7E31973 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 14:53:07 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8SIr6d04239 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 13:53:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id C241416B4; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 13:53:06 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 13:53:06 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Balls Message-ID: <20030928185306.GB3276@pobox.com> References: <3F7616D2.596CAE0D@maynor.net> <3F7589C4.BD8BCBEE@maynor.net> <20030927150748.GA1747@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3F7616D2.596CAE0D@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20030928091818.00b16110@pop.gwi.net> <004101c385be$a9555c50$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <20030928163700.GC15357@yoccoz.multinix.com> <00c101c385de$71346940$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00c101c385de$71346940$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-28 | Alan Wild writes: > > = I'm jumping in the middle of this chat, so maybe you're already > > covered it, = but there is this grunge that builds up on keyboards... a > > director of MIS at = URI had small patches on the keys of his keyboard > > that were white... the = rest of the keys had this black wax-like stuff > > on 'em. Yuck... What is = that? Oils from his fingers? > > = > > = 8-| > > > > exactly. does he smoke? > > > Nope... Not a smoker... He just looks out the window, and writes/types all > day long. 'The perfect administrator, he waits until things are in a > complete state of crisis and then acts, thereby having all his decisions > rendered/forced for him. He even used to get his managers to sign all of > his important expenditures until the VP forced him to sit and sign a stack > of purchase orders about a year ago. Under his reign, over $1M was wasted > after buried conduit had to be dug up and re-wired with the correct fiber > spec. In that case, it's "admin juice". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 14:21:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SJLDtS032128 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 14:21:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 81E2D1E60158; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 14:20:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554D61E60157 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 14:20:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DE452@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 15:16:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12517657 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 15:16:02 -0400 Received: from web20513.mail.yahoo.com (web20513.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8SJG1E01193 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 15:16:01 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20513.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:16:01 PDT Message-ID: <20030928191601.14739.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:16:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Balls To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20030928185306.GB3276@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > In that case, it's "admin juice". >From concentrate __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 15:17:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SKH6tS032761 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 15:17:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0489C1E600CD; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 15:15:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCBE51E60067 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 15:15:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00181057@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 16:11:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12521229 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 16:11:55 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SKBtE07699 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 16:11:55 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0018104E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 16:11:54 -0400 Message-Id: <200309282011.h8SKBtE07699@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 16:11:55 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Balls To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:16:01 -0700, Lynne Weber wrote: >> In that case, it's "admin juice". > >From concentrate > Wow, you really do find that conjugation thing mysterious, don't you? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 15:32:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SKWDtS000470 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 15:32:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 630AE1E600CD; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 15:31:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3509C1E600F1 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 15:31:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DE5B2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 16:06:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12520580 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 16:06:15 -0400 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SK6EE06578 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 16:06:14 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.7c.3d4c18b7 (4426) for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 16:06:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <7c.3d4c18b7.2ca8992b@aol.com> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 16:06:03 EDT Subject: Re: le weekend To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/28/2003 5:54:17 AM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >The cost was quite a bit higher in my mother's experience with home >help. She paid about $10,000 a month for home care as opposed to about >$3,000 a month for nursing-home care, the latter of which included >things like food and electricity. > Hmmm. Must be different in different areas. Also, was she able to make all of her own decisions? Sometimes it seems that certain agencies take advantage of people if they think they can get away with it. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 15:32:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SKWDtS000469 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 15:32:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6023C1E60067; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 15:31:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 330981E600CD for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 15:31:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DE4FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 15:47:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12519106 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 15:47:27 -0400 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SJlRE03861 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 15:47:27 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.f9.319ac85b (4426) for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 15:47:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 15:47:15 EDT Subject: Re: from the gay librarians list To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/28/2003 9:59:00 AM, cwv@GWI.NET writes: >I'm rather skeptical of any regimen that eliminates >a basic food source. So am I. I've eaten every kind of *bad* stuff for at least 30 odd years, without any ill consequences, and why are males at a higher risk then females I don't understand either. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 15:32:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SKWDtS000468 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 15:32:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5DB851E6010C; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 15:31:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30CA01E60067 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 15:31:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DE4B2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 15:35:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12518475 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 15:35:26 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SJZQE02787 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 15:35:26 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8SJZQ8b022241 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 15:35:26 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.104]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h8SJZOfC032089 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 15:35:25 -0400 Message-ID: <00e601c385f7$aa4fd200$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20030928191601.14739.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: Balls Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 15:35:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne Weber" > > In that case, it's "admin juice". > > From concentrate Now available in extra-strength... Look for the brand name Colon-Blo. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 16:53:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SLr5tS001431 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 16:53:05 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 99AE91E6010C; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 16:51:53 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D9991E60102 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 16:51:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DE8B5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 17:47:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12527475 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 17:47:53 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SLlqE18024 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 17:47:52 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HLY1MH00.LQX for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 14:42:17 -0700 From: "John Williams" To: English Language Discussion Group Message-ID: <1bcd3b1bd74b.1bd74b1bcd3b@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 14:42:17 -0700 X-Mailer: Netscape Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en Subject: Re: College football X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >What is U$C? > > University of Southern California. > > Betty University of Spoiled Children. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 17:03:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SM3itS001533 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 17:03:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 22D5B1E60158; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 17:02:33 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E139D1E6010C for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 17:02:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DE8EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 17:58:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12528155 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 17:58:32 -0400 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SLwWE19156 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 17:58:32 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.180.20282034 (3980) for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 17:58:24 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <180.20282034.2ca8b37e@aol.com> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 17:58:22 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Weird To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/28/2003 6:49:04 AM Central Daylight Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << Was she the coal-miner's daughter? Yep. and Carrie. >> Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 17:21:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SMLctS001747 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 17:21:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CA5611E6010C; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 17:20:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E1451E600F0 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 17:20:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DE992@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 18:16:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12529325 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:16:26 -0400 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SMGQE20666 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:16:26 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.18c.203a1bd2 (3980) for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:16:14 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <18c.203a1bd2.2ca8b7ad@aol.com> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:16:13 EDT Subject: Donald O'Connor To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I heard he died; anybody else heard that? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 17:29:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SMTWtS001850 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 17:29:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4D8471E6010C; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 17:28:20 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 200641E600F0 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 17:28:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DE9CC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 18:24:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12529977 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:24:17 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SMOGE21698 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:24:17 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h8SMODjI024884 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 17:24:15 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000401c38610$4239f880$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <18c.203a1bd2.2ca8b7ad@aol.com> Subject: Re: Donald O'Connor Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 17:31:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I heard he died; anybody else heard that? > > Evelyn Duncan > brandykitt@aol.com > http://www.thehungersite.com Yes. He's gone. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 18:09:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SN9gtS002323 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:09:43 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D14461E6015F; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:08:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A43B91E6015C for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:08:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DEABD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 19:04:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12532106 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:04:30 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SN4UE24899 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:04:30 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.168.60]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030928230425.XLTX1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:04:25 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7768F9.1444E294@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:04:25 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Balls References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030927075405.03bb3a70@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20030927163851.03b87088@mail.istori.com> <20030928022307.GB26056@pobox.com> <20030928091916.GC14546@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3F76CE3B.95DB7619@maynor.net> <20030928124020.GB14894@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3F76DBD5.E7A20BFD@maynor.net> <20030928163422.GA15357@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > > Natalie Maynor: > = steph wrote: > = > = > = Is that like putting arctic-looking things in the zoo area where polar > = > = bears live -- to make the polar mouse feel at home? > = > = > = > no. polarized like sunglasses, to make the light go only in one > = > direction. if you have two pairs of polarized sunglasses you can > = > put them at right angles to block out all the light. > = > = . I need to start adding smilies. > > me too. Oops! I didn't read the whole thing you wrote -- only the top part. Meanwhile, the Starkville Community Theatre was good, as usual. It's amazingly good for a small-town community theatre. Lots of really great actors in every play. The play was "Deathtrap," which in some ways is a stupid play imho but which they turned into an excellent performance. My ice chest looked good up there on the bar. It had real ice in it, which they put into drinks upon various occasions. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 18:17:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SNHltS002395 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:17:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 46A1F1E60104; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:16:35 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15F621E6007B for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:16:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DEACC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 19:12:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12532386 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:12:34 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SNCYE25657 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:12:34 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.168.60]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030928231229.XVXQ1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:12:29 -0400 Message-ID: <3F776ADD.CAF88BFB@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:12:29 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: le weekend References: <7c.3d4c18b7.2ca8992b@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > >The cost was quite a bit higher in my mother's experience with home > >help. She paid about $10,000 a month for home care as opposed to about > >$3,000 a month for nursing-home care, the latter of which included > >things like food and electricity. > > > Hmmm. Must be different in different areas. Also, was she able to make all of > her own decisions? Sometimes it seems that certain agencies take advantage of > people if they think they can get away with it. No, she wasn't making any decisions about the care, other than agreeing to whatever was decided for her. My RRSIL and I did the arranging. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 18:19:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SNJhtS002407 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:19:43 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1FA1C1E6015C; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:18:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2FB61E6007B for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:18:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DEADB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 19:14:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12532516 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:14:30 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SNEUE25831 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:14:30 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-211.gwi.net [216.195.152.211]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h8SNESYp010197; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:14:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030928191253.00bafe08@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:14:35 -0400 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: bonniev Subject: Hurricane Juan Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Did you all know that there is a hurricane in the North Atlantic about to hit Nova Scotia, Canada? It rather came as a surprise to us also. We've been having torrential rain all day long and now into the night. We have warnings about coastal flooding at the time of high tide. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 18:25:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SNPPtS002427 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:25:25 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 17EF41E60104; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:24:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9B321E6007B for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:24:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DEB05@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 19:20:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12532762 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:20:12 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SNKCE26259 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:20:12 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.168.60]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030928232006.YHCD1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:20:06 -0400 Message-ID: <3F776CA7.41C0DC36@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:20:07 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: College football References: <1bcd3b1bd74b.1bd74b1bcd3b@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > University of Spoiled Children. I don't know anything about the U of Southern California, but it sounds like what I've heard about SMU. I'm thankful that my RRN didn't end up going to SMU, which was high on his mother's list of places he should go. (She makes all his decisions, agreeing only to a few low-key requests he makes, like in the case of colleges that he would not go anywhere outside of the South.) His parents narrowed the list of possibilities to SMU, Wake Forest, and Vanderbilt. I think he was allowed a little bit of input at that point, though I'm not sure of that. Maybe it was just that Vanderbilt was the only one with early-admission, which is the route he took. Vanderbilt, of course, is appropriately conservative for them. But I think it has a few more than the other two, especially than SMU. (Norman is a who went to WF, so I know there are there. But I've heard that there are mainly robots.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 18:26:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SNQftS002432 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:26:41 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B20B81E6015F; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:25:29 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 814A71E6015C for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:25:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DEB1B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 19:21:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12532939 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:21:29 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SNLTE26420 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:21:29 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.168.60]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030928232116.YIVD1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:21:16 -0400 Message-ID: <3F776CED.A9769110@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:21:17 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weird References: <180.20282034.2ca8b37e@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > << > Was she the coal-miner's daughter? > > Yep. and Carrie. Carrie? As in Dreiser's Carrie? I don't know that movie. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 18:35:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SNZYtS002539 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:35:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2690B1E60162; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:34:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDDCF1E60160 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:34:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DEB38@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 19:30:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12533309 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:30:21 -0400 Received: from imo-m01.mx.aol.com (imo-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.4]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SNULE27080 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:30:21 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.14d.247c474f (4116) for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:30:12 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <14d.247c474f.2ca8c904@aol.com> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:30:12 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Weird To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/28/2003 6:21:56 PM Central Daylight Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << Carrie? As in Dreiser's Carrie? I don't know that movie. >> No, Stephen King's Carrie: telekinetic teen is abused by her fundamentalist mother and thoughtless classmates; she's elected prom queen by the classmates as a joke; when a bucket of blood is poured on her from the catwalk, all hell breaks loose. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 18:38:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SNc4tS002549 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:38:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 618361E60160; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:36:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F491E60076 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:36:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DEB55@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 19:32:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12533425 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:32:51 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SNWpE27229 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:32:51 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.168.60]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030928233246.WUQK1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:32:46 -0400 Message-ID: <3F776F9E.87F2C5E9@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:32:46 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hurricane Juan References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030928191253.00bafe08@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > Did you all know that there is a hurricane in the North Atlantic about to > hit Nova Scotia, Canada? It rather came as a surprise to us also. We've > been having torrential rain all day long and now into the night. We have > warnings about coastal flooding at the time of high tide. I did not know until I just checked wunderground. It did not make headlines in the various news sources I zipped through early this a.m. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 18:40:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SNeVtS002579 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:40:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BF8DA1E60160; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:39:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 924C81E60076 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:39:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DEB5F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 19:35:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12533538 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:35:19 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SNZJE27479 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:35:19 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.168.60]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030928233513.WVFX1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:35:13 -0400 Message-ID: <3F777032.76FB5@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:35:14 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weird References: <14d.247c474f.2ca8c904@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > No, Stephen King's Carrie: telekinetic teen is abused by her > fundamentalist mother and thoughtless classmates; she's > elected prom queen by the classmates as a joke; when a > bucket of blood is poured on her from the catwalk, all hell > breaks loose. I saw that movie! But I don't remember what any of the characters looked like. Wait -- I don't remember that she was elected prom queen. I may not be thinking of the same movie. But there was something like that -- being asked to the prom as a joke by the most popular boy in the school. And there was a fundamentalist mother. Was there something about a swimming pool under the dance floor and her willing the floor to open and make people fall into the pool? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 18:46:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8SNkUtS002629 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:46:30 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 044F71E60160; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:45:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C86BD1E60076 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:45:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DEB8F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 19:41:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12533941 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:41:17 -0400 Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8SNfHE28062 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:41:17 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1aa.1a65c8b0 (4116) for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:41:06 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1aa.1a65c8b0.2ca8cb91@aol.com> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:41:05 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Weird To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/28/2003 6:35:29 PM Central Daylight Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << Wait -- I don't remember that she was elected prom queen. I may not be thinking of the same movie. >> I definitely remember her being on the stage with a tiara and flowers, and then all hell broke loose. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 19:08:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8T085tS002876 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:08:05 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A98DD1E60162; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:06:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C4AB1E60160 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:06:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001815C0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 20:02:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12534837 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:02:52 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8T02pE29584 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:02:51 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.168.60]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030929000246.NOJK20055.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:02:46 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7776A6.578B065@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:02:46 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weird References: <1aa.1a65c8b0.2ca8cb91@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > I definitely remember her being on the stage with a tiara and > flowers, and then all hell broke loose. That does sound familiar. I think I'm conflating two different movies. What was the one that involved a swimming pool under a dance floor? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 19:09:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8T09xtS002898 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:09:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 367D61E60077; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:08:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0458C1E60073 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:08:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001815BA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 20:04:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12534952 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:04:40 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8T04eE29780 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:04:40 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-211.gwi.net [216.195.152.211]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h8T04cQU001137 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:04:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030928200246.00badbb8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:04:45 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Hurricane Juan In-Reply-To: <3F776F9E.87F2C5E9@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030928191253.00bafe08@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Did you all know that there is a hurricane in the North Atlantic about to > > hit Nova Scotia, Canada? It rather came as a surprise to us also. We've > > been having torrential rain all day long and now into the night. We have > > warnings about coastal flooding at the time of high tide. > >I did not know until I just checked wunderground. It did not make >headlines in the various news sources I zipped through early this a.m. > -- Natalie Amazing, isn't it? Does no one care about Nova Scotia?? Thanks Natalie for the cheese you brought us at fest. We had some on our twice-baked potatoes tonight and it was yummy. Tonight was our last good meal before we jet off to the land of our youth where we shall dine on Friday fish fry and iceberg lettuce. The brandy old-fashioneds, however, shall make up for the lack of creative cuisine. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 19:10:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8T0AYtS002902 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:10:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8AB661E60077; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:09:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E0271E60073 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:09:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DEC03@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 20:05:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12534968 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:05:22 -0400 Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (imo-r05.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8T05LE29831 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:05:21 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.7f.3cf9691e (17526) for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:05:11 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <7f.3cf9691e.2ca8d137@aol.com> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:05:11 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Weird To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/28/2003 7:02:56 PM Central Daylight Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << What was the one that involved a swimming pool under a dance floor? >> It's a Wonderful Life. Jimmy Stewart, Donna Reed, and Lionel Barrymore (my favorite of the Barrymores). Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 19:11:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8T0BEtS002907 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:11:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5FEA01E60077; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:10:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31FE31E60073 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:10:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DEBFC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 20:06:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12535024 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:06:01 -0400 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8T061E29884 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:06:01 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.11.19743dff (17526) for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:05:51 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <11.19743dff.2ca8d15f@aol.com> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:05:51 EDT Subject: Re: Breaking news - Director-writer Elia Kazan has died To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/28/2003 7:04:02 PM Central Daylight Time, MSNBC_BreakingNews_NewsMail@MSNBC.COM writes: << ------------------------------------------------------ MSNBC Breaking News ------------------------------------------------------ Director-writer Elia Kazan has died Director Elia Kazan, whose triumphs included the original Broadway productions of "Death of a Salesman" and "A Streetcar Named Desire," and the Oscar-winning film "On the Waterfront," died Sunday. He was 94. >> Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 19:11:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8T0BetS002911 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:11:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1797F1E60077; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:10:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDCFE1E60073 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:10:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DEC0E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 20:06:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12535052 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:06:27 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8T06RE29904 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:06:27 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.168.60]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030929000622.NPJY20055.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:06:22 -0400 Message-ID: <3F77777E.8490E93F@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:06:22 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weird References: <1aa.1a65c8b0.2ca8cb91@aol.com> <3F7776A6.578B065@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wait a minute -- the dance floor over swimming pool is in "It's a Wonderful Life," isn't it? That's not at all like "Carrie." In "Carrie" there was a fire, right? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 19:16:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8T0GStS002993 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:16:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D91EF1E60077; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:15:15 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7C5F1E60073 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:15:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DEC38@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 20:11:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12535286 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:11:15 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8T0BFE30288 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:11:15 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.168.60]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030929001109.NQXQ20055.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:11:09 -0400 Message-ID: <3F77789E.1FC930E@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:11:10 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hurricane Juan References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030928191253.00bafe08@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20030928200246.00badbb8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Amazing, isn't it? Does no one care about Nova Scotia?? It's in a furrin country. > Thanks Natalie for the cheese you brought us at fest. We had some on our > twice-baked potatoes tonight and it was yummy. Tonight was our last good I feel honored to think that cheese I brought would make its way into Voigtlander cuisine! Seriously. > meal before we jet off to the land of our youth where we shall dine on > Friday fish fry and iceberg lettuce. The brandy old-fashioneds, however, > shall make up for the lack of creative cuisine. Bon voyage! Are you visiting family members of both sides? When are you returning? I don't like it when Wordslers are . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 19:16:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8T0GotS003010 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:16:50 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 145E91E60160; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:15:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB3FA1E60077 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:15:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DEC1B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 20:11:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12535303 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:11:37 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8T0BbE30324 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:11:37 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.168.60]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030929001132.NRAU20055.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:11:32 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7778B4.C95CBA87@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:11:32 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weird References: <7f.3cf9691e.2ca8d137@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > It's a Wonderful Life. Bingo! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 19:17:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8T0H6tS003015 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:17:06 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 08CDC1E60160; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:15:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0D861E60077 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:15:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DEC2D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 20:11:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12535328 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:11:53 -0400 Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8T0BrE30340 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:11:53 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.79.19ced78b (17526) for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:11:37 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <79.19ced78b.2ca8d2b8@aol.com> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:11:36 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Weird To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/28/2003 7:06:59 PM Central Daylight Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << In "Carrie" there was a fire, right? >> Yes. All the doors slammed shut, locking the students in, and then there was a real conflagration. I'm going to have to watch this again. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 19:20:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8T0KctS003057 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:20:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3BF931E60160; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:19:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E7041E60077 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:19:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DEC39@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 20:15:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12535536 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:15:25 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8T0FPE30718 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:15:25 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-211.gwi.net [216.195.152.211]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h8T0FNQU002614 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:15:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030928201243.00bad7e0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:15:31 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Hurricane Juan In-Reply-To: <3F77789E.1FC930E@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030928191253.00bafe08@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20030928200246.00badbb8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Bon voyage! Are you visiting family members of both sides? When are >you returning? I don't like it when Wordslers are . > -- Natalie No family. Athough we did consider dropping in on Clyde's Aunt Bea. We are going way, way up to Northern Wisconsin to spend a week with our friends Tom and Holly Wissing at their cottage on Loon Lake. The forecast is for snow flurries and highs in the upper 30s. This is the same location where Holly and I went two different Februaries to hope for an aurora-sighting. I've never been there when the lake wasn't frozen with many inches of snow on top of it. It should be fun. We will be back home a week from tomorrow, god and Northwest Airlines willing. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 19:36:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8T0aStS003240 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:36:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8D6561E60162; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:35:15 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 569381E60160 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:35:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DEC8A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 20:31:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12536116 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:31:15 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8T0VEE32065 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:31:14 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-211.gwi.net [216.195.152.211]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h8T0VDYp022287 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:31:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030928203004.00bc9e20@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:31:19 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Hurricane Juan In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030928201243.00bad7e0@pop.gwi.net> References: <3F77789E.1FC930E@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20030928191253.00bafe08@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20030928200246.00badbb8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >It should be fun. We will be back home >a week from tomorrow, god and Northwest Airlines willing. And while we are gone, Rashmi is going to come. She'll stay at our house, look after the cats, and hike in Acadia National Park. Luckily, the weather here is supposed to be lots nicer than the weather in Wisconsin. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 19:36:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8T0abtS003245 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:36:37 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4624B1E60162; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:35:25 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D421E60160 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:35:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DEC9D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 20:31:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12536139 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:31:24 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8T0VOE32087 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:31:24 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[66.31.143.74]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <20030929003119012007fjh5e> (Authid: adamh1); Mon, 29 Sep 2003 00:31:19 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Weird Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:31:17 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <3F7776A6.578B065@maynor.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > That does sound familiar. I think I'm conflating two different movies. > What was the one that involved a swimming pool under a dance floor? _It's A Wonderful Life_. --Adam paging Nancy Harwood, Mrs. Nancy Harwood please adamh1@comcast.net From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 19:38:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8T0c4tS003269 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:38:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D8D8D1E60163; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:36:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABC081E60162 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:36:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00181646@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 20:32:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12536192 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:32:51 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8T0WoE32204 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:32:51 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.168.60]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030929003245.NXQO20055.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:32:45 -0400 Message-ID: <3F777DAD.B0361D48@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:32:45 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hurricane Juan References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030928191253.00bafe08@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20030928200246.00badbb8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20030928201243.00bad7e0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > are going way, way up to Northern Wisconsin to spend a week with our > friends Tom and Holly Wissing at their cottage on Loon Lake. The forecast Some local friends of mine returned last night from somewhere that sounds like that. It's somewhere on a lake in Wisconsin, where one of them has a family cottage. I'll have to ask them the name of the lake. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 19:39:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8T0dhtS003298 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:39:43 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CD8771E60162; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:38:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BCE31E60160 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:38:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DEC94@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 20:34:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12536323 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:34:30 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8T0YTE32384 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:34:30 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.168.60]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030929003424.NYDL20055.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:34:24 -0400 Message-ID: <3F777E10.EC4FEDF3@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:34:25 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hurricane Juan References: <3F77789E.1FC930E@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20030928191253.00bafe08@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20030928200246.00badbb8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20030928203004.00bc9e20@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > And while we are gone, Rashmi is going to come. She'll stay at our house, > look after the cats, and hike in Acadia National Park. Luckily, the > weather here is supposed to be lots nicer than the weather in Wisconsin. Neat! When is she going to make the official announcement about next year's fest, btw? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 19:41:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8T0fhtS003307 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:41:43 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B413A1E60162; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:40:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81AFF1E60160 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:40:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DECDD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 20:36:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12536743 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:36:30 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8T0aTE32758 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:36:29 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.168.60]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030929003624.NYTO20055.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:36:24 -0400 Message-ID: <3F777E88.1E011838@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:36:24 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weird References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield wrote: > paging Nancy Harwood, Mrs. Nancy Harwood please Has anybody heard from the Harwoods lately? I miss them. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 20:03:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8T13itS003555 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:03:45 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 46F4A1E60163; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:02:32 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1923D1E60162 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:02:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00181706@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 20:58:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12537881 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:58:30 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8T0wHE02360 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:58:17 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-211.gwi.net [216.195.152.211]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h8T0wFQU008250 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:58:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030928205726.00b3c608@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:58:22 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Hurricane Juan In-Reply-To: <3F777E10.EC4FEDF3@maynor.net> References: <3F77789E.1FC930E@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20030928191253.00bafe08@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20030928200246.00badbb8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20030928203004.00bc9e20@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > And while we are gone, Rashmi is going to come. She'll stay at our house, > > look after the cats, and hike in Acadia National Park. Luckily, the > > weather here is supposed to be lots nicer than the weather in Wisconsin. > >Neat! When is she going to make the official announcement about next >year's fest, btw? -- Natalie I think she should log on from my computer or Clyde's and make the announcement from here. It would be appropriate -- like carrying the Olympic flag from last year's site to next year's site. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 20:25:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8T1PftS003745 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:25:41 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C31681E60163; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:24:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91E761E60162 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:24:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DEE01@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 21:20:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12539571 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:20:27 -0400 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8T1KRE04649 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:20:27 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:20:26 PDT Message-ID: <20030929012026.25778.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:20:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Hurricane Juan To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030928191253.00bafe08@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: > Did you all know that there is a hurricane in the > North Atlantic about to > hit Nova Scotia, Canada? It rather came as a > surprise to us also. We've > been having torrential rain all day long and now > into the night. We have > warnings about coastal flooding at the time of high > tide. Actually, yes. We heard about it last night. This is your fault for bringing up Canada. I bought two tomatoes wrapped together yesterday. When I unwrapped them, they read, much to my astonishment, "Product of and Packaged for Canada, 4669". Alabama is a truck garden kind of state. Why would tomatoes be brought in from Canada? Also, just a passing curiosity, we had a double murder in this jurisdiction last night. Pretty ritzy address, too. I refuse to call the Chief and ask him, he's got enough on his hands. I'll find out tomorrow. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 20:29:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8T1TRtS003756 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:29:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D83B61E60163; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:28:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A75F11E60162 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:28:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DEE23@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 21:24:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12539858 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:24:14 -0400 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8T1ODE05092 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:24:13 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:24:13 PDT Message-ID: <20030929012413.73387.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:24:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Weird To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F7776A6.578B065@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > That does sound familiar. I think I'm conflating > two different movies. > What was the one that involved a swimming pool under > a dance floor? "It's a Wonderful Life", 1943, I believe. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 20:31:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8T1V9tS003784 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:31:09 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 661A01E60166; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:29:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 347B41E60165 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:29:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DEE3B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 21:25:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12539935 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:25:55 -0400 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8T1PtE05233 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:25:55 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:25:55 PDT Message-ID: <20030929012555.25594.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:25:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Breaking news - Director-writer Elia Kazan has died To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <11.19743dff.2ca8d15f@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Director-writer Elia Kazan has died > > Director Elia Kazan, whose triumphs included the > original Broadway > productions of "Death of a Salesman" and "A > Streetcar Named Desire," and the > Oscar-winning film "On the Waterfront," died Sunday. > He was 94. Also, Althea Gibson. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 20:33:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8T1XAtS003805 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:33:10 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 53C181E60163; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:31:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2767E1E60162 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:31:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DEE44@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 21:27:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12540113 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:27:56 -0400 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8T1RuE05638 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:27:56 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.171.244d4026 (17526) for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:27:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <171.244d4026.2ca8e494@aol.com> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:27:48 EDT Subject: Re: Breaking news - Director-writer Elia Kazan has died To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/28/2003 6:06:29 PM, BrandyKitt@AOL.COM writes: >Director-writer Elia Kazan died Sunday. He was 94. Another one gone, but at least he lived a long life. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 20:37:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8T1betS003820 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:37:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 376C91E60163; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:36:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 015041E60162 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:36:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DEE92@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 21:32:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12540448 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:32:26 -0400 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8T1WQE06200 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:32:26 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1c7.f8acfb7 (17526) for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:32:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1c7.f8acfb7.2ca8e5a1@aol.com> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:32:17 EDT Subject: Re: Hurricane Juan To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/28/2003 6:15:47 PM, bonniev@GWI.NET writes: >We will be back home >a week from tomorrow, god and Northwest Airlines willing. > Have a great time.I've lived in Wisconsin, but not that far north. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 20:46:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8T1kitS003898 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:46:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 11E5C1E60062; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:45:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D51471E60030 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:45:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0018181F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 21:41:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12541160 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:41:30 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8T1fTE07624 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:41:29 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.168.60]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030929014124.DUOD1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:41:24 -0400 Message-ID: <3F778DC4.CE4BD71A@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:41:24 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Where in Wisconsin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From not the owners of the cabin, who are mega-bad about never checking e-mail, but from the other friend who got back from there last night: ******************* > > ... > >What lake? Some people on Words-L were just talking about cabins on > >lakes in Wisconsin, and I realized that I had no idea where in Wisconsin > >Clyde and Marsha go in the summer. > Door County, Bailey's Harbor. across from the lake. > > I've gotten food poisoning or a bug. > > So this is SHORT~ ******************* I just replied with great commiseration since she has only a couple of days before leaving for Japan. Having stomach problems is not good in such a time-frame. I thought, though didn't mention to her, about having seen somebody vomiting into a bag in the gift-wrap area of McRae's in Tupelo yesterday. This person walked up to the counter and asked if there was a bag she could vomit into. Somebody handed her a bag. And as I left, I noticed her sitting there vomiting into the bag. Not your usual department-store scene. There is perhaps a going around. But the person in the e-mail quoted above wasn't in Tupelo. She was in Wisconsin until last night. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 20:48:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8T1motS003907 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:48:50 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5A9471E60062; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:47:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E801E60030 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:47:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DEECD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 21:43:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12541267 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:43:36 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8T1haE07776 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:43:36 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.168.60]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030929014331.DVLI1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:43:31 -0400 Message-ID: <3F778E43.8F99CFBE@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:43:31 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hurricane Juan [ATT: RASHMI] References: <3F77789E.1FC930E@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20030928191253.00bafe08@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20030928200246.00badbb8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20030928203004.00bc9e20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20030928205726.00b3c608@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > I think she should log on from my computer or Clyde's and make the > announcement from here. It would be appropriate -- like carrying the > Olympic flag from last year's site to next year's site. YES! Back in the the next site was always announced at the current gathering. Those days seem to have gone away, but I like this torch-carrying idea. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 20:55:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8T1tbtS003973 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:55:37 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ADA911E600FD; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:54:24 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CB041E60030 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:54:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DEEEE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 21:50:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12541396 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:49:01 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8T1n0E08115 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:49:01 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.168.60]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030929014855.DXNC1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:48:55 -0400 Message-ID: <3F778F87.A4626750@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:48:55 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hurricane Juan References: <20030929012026.25778.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > is your fault for bringing up Canada. I bought two > tomatoes wrapped together yesterday. When I unwrapped > them, they read, much to my astonishment, "Product of > and Packaged for Canada, 4669". Alabama is a truck > garden kind of state. Why would tomatoes be brought > in from Canada? Grocery store tomatoes? They are always horrible, wherever they're from. Re Alabama, the peach truck has gone away now. Most days in summer there's a truck parked on Main Street selling peaches from somewhere in Alabama. I hate all these end-of-summer signals: short days, Wmart garden section turning into xmas section, vanishing of the peach truck, etc. etc. This is a very depressing time of year. But in less than three months the days will start getting longer again. Maybe I should have a solstice party. > Also, just a passing curiosity, we had a double murder > in this jurisdiction last night. Pretty ritzy > address, too. I refuse to call the Chief and ask him, > he's got enough on his hands. I'll find out tomorrow. I trust that you will report. I hope that our student body pres's family isn't involved. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 20:55:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8T1tetS003976 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:55:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 840381E600FD; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:54:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 576DB1E60030 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:54:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DEF02@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 21:50:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12541433 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:50:26 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8T1ntE08167 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:49:55 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.168.60]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030929014950.DXXO1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:49:50 -0400 Message-ID: <3F778FBE.651A4870@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:49:50 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weird References: <20030929012413.73387.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > "It's a Wonderful Life", 1943, I believe. Wonderful life did indeed start in 1943. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 21:00:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8T20btS004065 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:00:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AFFE21E60165; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:59:24 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8154D1E600FD for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:59:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DEF0C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 21:55:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12541678 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:55:24 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8T1tNE08750 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:55:23 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-211.gwi.net [216.195.152.211]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h8T1tMYp034418 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:55:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030928215127.00ba7478@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:55:29 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Where in Wisconsin In-Reply-To: <3F778DC4.CE4BD71A@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Door County, Bailey's Harbor. across from the lake. I've been there. That's a whole different thing from a cottage on a small Wisconsin lake. Door County is a fairly swanky part of Wisconsin. And Bailey's Harbor is right on Lake Michigan. The cottages around the small lakes of Wisconsin are usually small, simple houses. Not a condo in sight. Very few gift shops. Road house restaurants that are really taverns. Door County has fancier restaurants, little shopping malls, and condo complexes. However, Bailey's Harbor is on the quieter side of the Door County peninsula. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 21:08:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8T28etS004160 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:08:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 17D801E600FD; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:07:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD8B61E60030 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:07:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DEF34@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 22:03:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12542014 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 22:03:26 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8T23QE09703 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 22:03:26 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.168.60]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030929020320.FUWV1781.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 22:03:20 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7792E8.A0BF39F5@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:03:20 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Where in Wisconsin References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030928215127.00ba7478@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > I've been there. That's a whole different thing from a cottage on a small > Wisconsin lake. Door County is a fairly swanky part of Wisconsin. And > Bailey's Harbor is right on Lake Michigan. The cottages around the small > lakes of Wisconsin are usually small, simple houses. Not a condo in > sight. Very few gift shops. Road house restaurants that are really > taverns. Door County has fancier restaurants, little shopping malls, and > condo complexes. However, Bailey's Harbor is on the quieter side of the > Door County peninsula. It's funny that I am getting info from a friend in Maine about the place in Wisconsin that some long-time ftf friends spend lots of time in. I've just never asked them about exactly where in Wisonsin since I know very little about Wisconsin geography. I think this cabin or whatever they go to is something that has been in Marsha's family for eons. I suddenly remember a funny story Clyde (husband of Marsha) told me about when his son was a college student and got a summer job at an ice-cream place in Wisconsin. In his application for the job he said something like, "I am nineteen years old and have been enjoying ice cream from [whatever the place is] for the past twenty years." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 21:20:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8T2KLtS004282 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:20:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8704A1E600FD; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:19:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5323F1E60030 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:19:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DEF6C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 22:15:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12542407 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 22:15:07 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8T2F7E11326 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 22:15:07 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DEF4D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 22:15:07 -0400 Message-Id: <200309290215.h8T2F7E11326@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 22:15:07 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Weird To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:24:13 -0700, Lynne Weber wrote: >> That does sound familiar. I think I'm conflating >> two different movies. >> What was the one that involved a swimming pool under >> a dance floor? > >"It's a Wonderful Life", 1943, I believe. > > I never watch horror movies willingly, but it seems to me that I remember from childhood a scary movie in which someone opens a floor during a school dance, and someone falls in and drowns? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 21:59:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8T2xRtS004642 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:59:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9B64A1E6007D; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:58:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB971E60070 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:58:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DF075@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 22:54:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12544877 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 22:54:13 -0400 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8T2sCE15696 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 22:54:12 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:54:11 PDT Message-ID: <20030929025411.13213.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:54:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Hurricane Juan To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F778F87.A4626750@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I hate all these > end-of-summer signals: short > days, Wmart garden section turning into xmas > section, vanishing of the > peach truck, etc. etc. This is a very depressing > time of year. ME TOO. Short days, coldness, going home in the dark - yuck. But in > less than three months the days will start getting > longer again. Maybe > I should have a solstice party. Yes. > > I trust that you will report. I hope that our > student body pres's > family isn't involved. I certainly would not think so, but stranger things have happened. I'll report. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 22:03:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8T33htS004682 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 22:03:43 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 53C3F1E6007D; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 22:02:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 270871E60070 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 22:02:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DF0CE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 22:58:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12545344 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 22:58:29 -0400 Received: from web20511.mail.yahoo.com (web20511.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.150]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8T2wTE16183 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 22:58:29 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20511.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:58:28 PDT Message-ID: <20030929025828.26495.qmail@web20511.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:58:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Weird To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200309290215.h8T2F7E11326@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I never watch horror movies willingly, but it seems > to me that I remember > from childhood a scary movie in which someone opens > a floor during a school > dance, and someone falls in and drowns? I had a flash of memory, but it's gone. No help here, sorry. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 22:19:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8T3JPtS004819 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 22:19:25 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EDC3D1E600FD; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 22:18:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F441E60070 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 22:18:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DF10F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 23:14:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12546229 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 23:14:11 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8T3EAE18188 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 23:14:11 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-211.gwi.net [216.195.152.211]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h8T3E5Yv041478; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 23:14:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030928231117.00b31bb0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 23:14:01 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Hurricane Juan In-Reply-To: <3F77789E.1FC930E@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030928191253.00bafe08@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20030928200246.00badbb8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:11 PM 9/28/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I feel honored to think that cheese I brought would make its way into >Voigtlander cuisine! Seriously. We have been using it fairly regularly. Saturday night, I had a sandwich of warmed leftover pork, The Cheese, and coarse-ground mustard on whole wheat toast. Very good. As you said much earlier, the cheese is damned near indestructable, so we will keep hacking away at it. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 22:20:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8T3KPtS004828 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 22:20:25 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C59591E600FD; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 22:19:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9877C1E60070 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 22:19:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DF121@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 23:15:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12546242 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 23:15:11 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f38.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8T3FAE18306 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 23:15:10 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:15:05 -0700 Received: from 64.24.187.82 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 03:15:04 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.24.187.82] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Hurricane Juan Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 03:15:04 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Sep 2003 03:15:05.0027 (UTC) FILETIME=[E0DAE130:01C38637] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: >Neat! When is she going to make the official announcement about next >year's fest, btw? I made the Namibia announcement ages ago. Tushar's already written a number of snotty posts about it. -rashmi _________________________________________________________________ Add MSN 8 Internet Software to your existing Internet access and enjoy patented spam protection and more. Sign up now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/byoa From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 23:02:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8T428tS005249 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 23:02:08 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B662C1E6016B; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 23:00:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 860881E6001D for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 23:00:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DF3CB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 28 Sep 2003 23:56:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12551596 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 23:56:54 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8T3urE22890 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 23:56:53 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h8T3umjI024021 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 22:56:51 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <003301c3863e$b52c9cc0$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3F77789E.1FC930E@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20030928191253.00bafe08@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20030928200246.00badbb8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20030928203004.00bc9e20@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: Re: Hurricane Juan Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 23:03:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >It should be fun. We will be back home > >a week from tomorrow, god and Northwest Airlines willing. > > And while we are gone, Rashmi is going to come. She'll stay at our house, > look after the cats, and hike in Acadia National Park. Luckily, the > weather here is supposed to be lots nicer than the weather in Wisconsin. > > > bonnie Really? How convenient! Good for all of you, perhaps. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 23:20:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8T4KStS005488 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 23:20:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 598191E6016B; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 23:19:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C83D1E60088 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 23:19:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00181D9E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 0:15:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12553856 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 00:13:48 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8T47CE24636 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 00:07:12 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h8T477jI007648 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 23:07:10 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000801c38640$25bd55a0$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: from the gay librarians list Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 23:14:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > D.M. -- > > >I know several people on that diet too. > >One, however, ran into trouble because he was prone to gout, and the > >diet sent him into the worst case of it ever. He had dropped 15 lb on > >the diet though, and I think he's been able to continue on the diet > >after getting advice on how to modify it. > > I've lost 25 pounds in less than three months, and I am going to have to get > my engagement ring re-sized pretty soon. This regime has been pretty easy > because two other people in my office are on it, I don't care for a lot of > the restricted foods anyway, and I am not stressed out about weight/body > image and all that in general. My goal is to increase my "healthiness," as > it were. If I were to lose an additional 50 pounds (which would put me at my > longstanding pre-Carl weight) in the next year, that would be great -- but I > would also be happy with any portion of that. > > More info is here: > > www.atkins.com > > AS Thanks, Amy, and good luck to you on your diet. Sounds like you are doing great! - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Sep 28 23:51:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8T4pdtS005768 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 23:51:39 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 64D771E6004F; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 23:50:25 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36EB81E6001E for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 23:50:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00181E5F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 0:46:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12555803 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 00:46:23 -0400 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:icBCLr9s3JCDwf7gMG+03PRFCT+kvySO@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8T4kNE27878 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 00:46:23 -0400 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47D112FE7C for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:46:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D942382C for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:46:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: The sunrise is going down quickly X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Jon-Carroll: We live in a culture of lies Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:46:11 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Hurricane Juan Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 8:15 PM -0700 9/28/03, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >Natalie: > >>Neat! When is she going to make the official announcement about next >>year's fest, btw? > >I made the Namibia announcement ages ago. Tushar's already written a >number of snotty posts about it. A little bit of archive searching shows that you have *not* made any sort of announcement, at least not on-list since July 1 or later. The closest you've come to it was an ambiguous response to the statement "I don't know what happened to Namibia," your response being as follows: "It's still there. How many meebers would be interested in a trip to Namibia next year?" That sounds more like a request for a show of hands than an announcement. Of course, by hallowed Words-L tradition, suggestion is nine-tenths of the decision-making process, and it would be only reasonable to suppose that such wordslers as are inclined to flocculate will do so in or around Windhoek on or around 4 July 2004. But (to be pedantic) that isn't the same thing as an actual announcement. Ken Miller Department of Phatic Drivel Bernard Chien Perro Memorial Institute for Words-L Studies From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 07:37:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UCbr21012358 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 07:37:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BF8361E60581; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 07:36:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0521E6057D for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 07:36:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E2793@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 8:32:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12659016 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 08:32:24 -0400 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8UCMOp07088 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 08:22:24 -0400 Received: from ra.msstate.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.12.10/8.12.8/ra_1.2) with ESMTP; id h8UCMNfb008584 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 07:22:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from maynor@localhost) by ra.msstate.edu (8.12.10/8.12.7/Submit) id h8UCMN92008583 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 07:22:23 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 07:22:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Natalie Maynor Message-Id: <200309301222.h8UCMN92008583@ra.msstate.edu> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Beautification Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The Mother Teresa sign on the mailroom door doesn't say "Will Eudora Welty be next?" It says "What miracle will be next?" (with Eudora's picture). --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 07:44:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UCi221012537 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 07:44:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EA6A41E6053F; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 05:29:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD6711E6053B for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 05:29:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00184AB9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 6:25:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12665906 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 06:25:20 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8UAPJp07749 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 06:25:19 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.164.149]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030930102514.MTBX20055.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 06:25:14 -0400 Message-ID: <3F795A0B.3F3B3774@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 05:25:15 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pulling Out of Iraq References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: > oooh, crony capitalism, my favorite favorite subject and something > this administration excels in. (There's no evidence that Cheney > knows any other kind of capitalism.) > > There's this new firm billed to link up businesses with opportunities > in Iraq - it's filled with people who pushed for the war and whose > biggest asset is their access to the Bush administration. > > http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/30/politics/30LOBB.html?hp See Paul Krugman's column in today's NYT: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/30/opinion/30KRUG.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 08:00:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UD0X21013027 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 08:00:33 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 180BC1E601DE; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 09:35:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB2641E601DD for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 09:35:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001827C2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:31:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12578969 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:31:15 -0400 Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8TEVFE09749 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:31:15 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HLZ00CNKCC530@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:31:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.135] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:27:55 -0400 Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:27:55 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Dead Bird Re: Who are you people? To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <2efb7c2ee963.2ee9632efb7c@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU BrP: Some day today will be "back then". Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Barfoot Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2003 10:05 am Subject: Re: Who are you people? > Wow. What a blast from the past. There are several names there > that I had not thought about in a long time. I wish now that I > had taken the time to write a bio back then. > > BrP > > > > > >>> leonard@BC.EDU 09/09/03 09:05AM >>> > Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > Have you ever shared > >bios? > > > > > > > >Yes: ftp://ftp.msstate.edu/docs/words-l/List-Stuff/bios > > > > > > > Wow, I didn't even remember that I had a bio out there :-) My, > how my 'family' has changed! Dopey dog has been replaced by a > husband and now there are five different cats. > > Rita L. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 08:00:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UD0X21013034 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 08:00:33 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 122381E6047F; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 00:52:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA1DE1E6048D for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 00:52:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E209E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 1:48:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12655655 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 01:48:25 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8U5mPp15611 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 01:48:25 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8U5mOu26682 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 00:48:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 75FF916B4; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 00:48:24 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 00:48:24 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pulling Out of Iraq Message-ID: <20030930054824.GB26448@pobox.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-30 | Rashmi Murthy writes: > Tushar: > > >Oh, I expect it will trickle down. History has proved that crony > >capitalism is the only thing which works. > > cite. I thought I said something about history proving it. Does that need a cite? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 08:00:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UD0Y21013047 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 08:00:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1FE0A1E60466; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 23:46:32 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7FCF1E600E7 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 23:46:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E1F9E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 0:42:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12653089 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 00:42:30 -0400 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:g783fzqYvQM8fpie3JPGLsz8Pbs0l7LO@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8U4gUp09475 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 00:42:30 -0400 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C7A22FE46 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:42:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DB562382D for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:42:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3F78DD6E.48335C03@maynor.net> References: <20030930012741.92587.qmail@web20511.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: The sunrise is going down quickly X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Jon-Carroll: We live in a culture of lies Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:42:17 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Are These People Trustworthy? Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> Was there anything in there about the rooms being >> arranged according to the Dewey decimal system? > >No, they're LC. I hope I'm in P. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Are you sure you wouldn't rather be in HQ? Ken Miller Custos Librorum Jared Bean School of Librarianship From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 08:00:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UD0Z21013058 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 08:00:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1C5301E60420; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:17:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D41C91E6041D for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:17:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E1C8D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 23:13:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12646355 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 23:13:05 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8U3D5p01266 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 23:13:05 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A4Awi-0002oq-Eb for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 23:13:05 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030929200834.040bfb40@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:15:17 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Pulling Out of Iraq In-Reply-To: <20030930025050.GB18834@pobox.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant writes, >History has proved that crony capitalism is the only thing which works. >Don't give me leftist crap like "other kinds of capitalism". I would mind a whole hell of a lot less if they didn't try to call it democracy, liberation and freedom. They wouldn't even have to call it something pejorative. I'd happily settle for "enlightened self-interest," for instance. >Do you want enterprises with abundant reconstruction experience to do the >job, or Jose's Tuckpointing, Chicago? If Jose can cop to "enlightened self-interest" instead of "liberation," I vote for Jose. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 08:00:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UD0e21013090 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 08:00:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1FE6C1E6034D; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:07:20 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBD781E60096 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:07:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E14F6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:03:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12629084 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:03:18 -0400 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8TN3Ip04955 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:03:18 -0400 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8TN3FsV8937702 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:03:16 -0500 Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:03:15 -0500 (CDT) From: poor old johnny ray X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Althea In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.0.4.76838 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, Paul Barfoot's newschick: >referred to Gibson as "...the first african-american >woman to break the color barrier in professional tennis." Well, in fairness to the newschick (though I'll bet she didn't intend this nuance), the first breaks down only the _first_ barrier. She was also, I learned today, the first black woman on the golf tour. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 08:00:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UD0e21013105 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 08:00:41 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 137841E6032D; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:32:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC821E6032B for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:32:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E1407@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:28:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12626394 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:28:03 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8TMS3p32633 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:28:03 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8TMS2HL019690 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:28:02 -0700 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8TMS0jD019642 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:28:01 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20030929152605.00a52570@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:26:28 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Are These People Trustworthy? In-Reply-To: <3F78A9FA.E825276E@maynor.net> References: <5.1.1.5.2.20030929143515.00a5e850@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I like staying across the street from Virgil's. Good pies. Betty At 04:54 PM 9/29/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Betty Clark wrote: > > > Where are you staying? > >The Wellington. It was $129 on its own website but $109 by these people >whose trustworthiness I was asking about. It's the one I stayed in (for >less than that -- prices have a way of creeping upward, especially hotel >prices in NYC) when I went two years ago -- the time I tried to get to >see "The Fantastiks" before it closed forever. The Wellington is next >door to Carnegie Hall, which is a pretty good location no matter what >you're doing. The CH schedule has almost nothing listed for that time >period, alas. There is a concert on the 28th I'll probably go to just >because it's there. It sounds ok, though doesn't include my real >favorites. I need to look at the CH website again and see what's in >that concert. I remember that Beethoven's 8th is. Can't remember what >else. I'm also trying to remember where the nearest subway stop is. I >think there's one very close but that it's one of those letter ones >rather than the number ones. I like the number ones better. I need to >look at a NYC map and get my bearings. Wouldn't it be not many blocks >west of there to my favorite subway line -- the 6 or 9 or whatever it is >that runs up and down the west side? I might need to buy another >toaster-oven pan at Zabar's. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 08:00:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UD0j21013151 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 08:00:45 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 155371E60321; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:21:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D12131E60320 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:21:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E13C1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:17:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12625691 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:17:15 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8TMHFp31556 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:17:15 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.172.180]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030929221705.VFFE24914.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:17:05 -0400 Message-ID: <3F78AF61.87123050@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:17:05 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Subways References: <3F78AE59.F8871851@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Or is it the 1 and 2 that go up and down the west side? If the Yes, I'm sure it is. I haven't it, but my brain just clicked in and said of course it's the 1 and 2. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 08:01:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UD0k21013159 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 08:00:46 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 193D81E60293; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:30:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C90061E60290 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:30:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E0C56@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:26:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12608595 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:26:12 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8TJQCp00751 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:26:12 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.172.180]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030929192606.STHZ1781.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:26:06 -0400 Message-ID: <3F78874F.2452491B@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:26:07 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Report References: <20030929151030.44061.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > I suppose I should have back-channeled it to > her. But whispering isn't polite. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 09:24:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UEO421014573 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 09:24:05 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 39FF51E601F0; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:51:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE0891E601F1 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:51:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00182AB0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:37:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12586452 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:37:40 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8TFbeE23688 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:37:40 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:37:42 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:37:31 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Hurricane Juan Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h8UEO421014573 B&C I hope you survived Juan and didn't wash or blow away. Was there any damage to MDI? The pictures on the news looked like there was a fair bit of downage and outage in Halifax. BrP >>> bonniev@GWI.NET 09/28/03 07:14PM >>> Did you all know that there is a hurricane in the North Atlantic about to hit Nova Scotia, Canada? It rather came as a surprise to us also. We've been having torrential rain all day long and now into the night. We have warnings about coastal flooding at the time of high tide. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 09:24:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UEO421014570 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 09:24:05 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 327491E601F2; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:51:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6A421E601F0 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:51:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018297A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:10:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12583185 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:10:31 -0400 Received: from web20506.mail.yahoo.com (web20506.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8TFAVE17731 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:10:31 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 08:10:30 PDT Message-ID: <20030929151030.44061.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 08:10:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Report To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Paul Barfoot wrote: > a tragedy for sure - but I have to ask, among all > the tagedies reported in the news every day, why > this one is worthy of posting ? It isn't a > criticism but a real question. Is there a > connection that I am missing ? That's a perfectly logical question. I had written about what I thought was a double homicide over the weekend. Natalie expressed the hope that it did not involve a family of which she knows. I told her I'd report. I suppose I should have back-channeled it to her. That's it. there isn't any more. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 09:24:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UEO621014579 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 09:24:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 348591E60204; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:34:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D66921E60205 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:34:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E0312@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:47:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12587383 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:47:15 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8TFlFE25543 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:47:15 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h8TFlCjI029931 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:47:13 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000c01c386a1$fe513f60$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Report from Iraq Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:54:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h8UEO621014579 Someone sent me a piece described as "a lecture by Judge Don Walters, a federal judge who was asked to serve as part of a 12 man team in Iraq to evaluate their justice system. It was most interesting, and afterwards, when asked if he had a book or a recording of any of his lectures, he was generous enough to give his notes from the evening." It's one of those things that gets passed on so I checked it with Snopes and they say it is a true report and not a legend. It is interesting and gives his observations in Iraq about things other than the justice system too. Believable maybe because it didn't come from the media or the government. I'd like to post it but it's too long. If anyone would like to see it I will send it to you as an attachment. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 09:24:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UEO721014584 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 09:24:09 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 395921E60205; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:34:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA8621E60207 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:34:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E032B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:51:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12587756 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:51:33 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8TFpWE26444 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:51:33 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:51:34 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:51:02 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: confluence Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h8UEO721014584 The rain and the library fire drill are both scheduled to occur some thime between 1 and 3 today. BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 09:24:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UEO821014610 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 09:24:10 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3B4F01E60209; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:34:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D80891E60206 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:34:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E0328@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:49:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12587589 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:49:11 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8TFnAE26033 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:49:10 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-3.gwi.net [216.195.151.3]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h8TFn6QW072349; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:49:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030929114113.00b365a8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:49:06 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Hurricane Juan In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:37 AM 9/29/2003 -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > >B&C > >I hope you survived Juan and didn't wash or blow away. Was there any >damage to MDI? The pictures on the news looked like there was a fair bit >of downage and outage in Halifax. Juan stayed well off the coast as it passed us; Halifax took a direct hit. We had a little over 1.5 inches of rain yesterday (Bangor had about 3 inches---a record) and considerable gusty wind. Whether that was a side effect of Juan, I don't know. Presumably there were some large swells and higher-than-normal tides, but I haven't heard of any damage. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 10:47:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UFlG21015665 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 10:47:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3CF8E1E602A0; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:48:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C70E71E6029C for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:48:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E0D27@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:43:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12610380 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:43:59 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8TJhxp04430 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:43:59 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h8TJhuAR017919 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:43:57 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <002c01c386c3$0ffa1c20$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000c01c386a1$fe513f60$facadece@0018079268> <3F788867.B8D0EBEF@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Report from Iraq Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:51:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" To: Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 2:30 PM Subject: Re: Report from Iraq > Doris Markland wrote: > > > I'd like to post it but it's too long. If anyone > > would like to see it I will send it to you as an > > attachment. > > There's a "slightly abridged" version online here: > > http://globalspecops.com/view.html > > I bet the unabridged one is somewhere on the web. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Yes, that is the same as what I have. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 10:47:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UFlG21015659 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 10:47:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 32F9F1E60277; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 13:57:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87F081E60012 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 13:57:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00183256@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:53:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12605337 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:53:01 -0400 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8TIr0E26997 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:53:00 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1ef.10837c50 (16633) for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:52:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1ef.10837c50.2ca9d97f@aol.com> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:52:47 EDT Subject: Re: Althea To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/29/2003 9:18:33 AM, Prbarfoo@SYR.EDU writes: >On the 6:00 local news last night the newsreader chick (this is not a generic >word for female but a very specific type of female) referred to Gibson >as "...the first african-american woman to break the color barrier in professional >tennis." > I saw that too. I hadn't been following tennis news too much, so her achievements in that sport were truly amazing to me. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 10:48:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UFmA21015787 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 10:48:10 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CB49F1E60531; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 05:08:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 913B01E6052B for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 05:08:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E24BA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 6:04:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12665222 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 06:04:54 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8UA4rp05566 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 06:04:54 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.164.149]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030930100448.DDMV1781.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 06:04:48 -0400 Message-ID: <3F795541.3E494666@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 05:04:49 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Aberrant and Unpleasant References: <20030930032530.93419.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > It's pretty chilly here, as well. This AM, 47 > degrees. And I believe we are even souther. According to wunderground, it's 45 here right now. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 10:48:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UFmD21015817 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 10:48:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CC9A61E60290; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:34:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68D931E60299 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:34:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001833C3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:30:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12609026 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:30:53 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8TJUqp01460 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:30:52 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.172.180]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030929193047.SVMF1781.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:30:47 -0400 Message-ID: <3F788867.B8D0EBEF@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:30:47 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Report from Iraq References: <000c01c386a1$fe513f60$facadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > I'd like to post it but it's too long. If anyone > would like to see it I will send it to you as an > attachment. There's a "slightly abridged" version online here: http://globalspecops.com/view.html I bet the unabridged one is somewhere on the web. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 10:48:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UFmL21015870 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 10:48:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 763AC1E6016F; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 05:54:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 456991E60039 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 05:54:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00182268@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 6:50:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12566055 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 06:50:13 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8TAoDE21780 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 06:50:13 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.133.174]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030929105007.RBVU1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 06:50:07 -0400 Message-ID: <3F780E60.EE21954B@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 05:50:08 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Why? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I realize that Andy Rooney's sketches of the Democratic presidential candidates are in his usual humorous tone, yet they are also in the sense of giving fairly accurate info. So why does he, like various other media voices, say this? "Howard Dean, the former governor of Vermont, is the most liberal candidate...." Why do people think HD is so liberal? He's not. And certainly he is not "the most liberal" of that group. from: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/09/26/60minutes/rooney/main575348.shtml -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 10:48:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UFmV21015945 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 10:48:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7876B1E6029E; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:44:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 328671E6029C for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:44:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E0D04@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:40:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12610149 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:40:18 -0400 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8TJeHp03811 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:40:17 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 12:40:16 PDT Message-ID: <20030929194016.13764.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 12:40:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Decisions, Decisions To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F7885DA.C1422E78@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Any advice? I guess I could spend the night of the > 24th in Tupelo. Or > for that matter, I could spend it in Memphis, but > that seems silly since > a ff ticket would cost exactly the same from Tupelo > or from Memphis. > (In a way it's dumb to use ff miles since the > regular fare is very > low.) Life is complicated. But at least my furry > baby has a room at > the inn -- drop-off the 24th, pick-up the 30th. Just don't go. Think of all you would save in: time, money, ffm's, energy, brain power and general wear and tear. And you wouldn't be at home to thank Spencer for his Christmas gift. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 11:20:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UGKX21016437 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 11:20:33 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3BED61E601A2; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 10:49:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AAAC1E600EC for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 10:49:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E2E5C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 11:24:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12675135 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 11:24:46 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8UFOkp07589 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 11:24:46 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 831172B56F; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 08:24:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 794AE2B56D for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 08:24:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 08:24:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: Stupid joke Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU makes me laugh though: What do you call a Frenchman wearing slippers? scroll down Philippe Philoppe From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 11:20:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UGKX21016442 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 11:20:33 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2E0951E601C3; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 10:58:29 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E62A91E601AE for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 10:58:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E2FFA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 11:54:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12678994 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 11:54:27 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8UFsQp16726 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 11:54:26 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E2FE9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 11:54:26 -0400 Message-Id: <200309301554.h8UFsQp16726@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 11:54:26 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: apparently I'm in the wrong party To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.selectsmart.com/president/ According to this, I should be a little more satisfied with Kucinich than with Dean, and not impressed by Clark. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 12:10:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UHAp21017099 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:10:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3A3CE1E6031E; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:16:48 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00B0B1E6031C for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:16:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E134A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:12:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12624747 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:12:46 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8TMCkp30768 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:12:46 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.172.180]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030929221241.VDQF24914.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:12:41 -0400 Message-ID: <3F78AE59.F8871851@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:12:41 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Subways Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Or is it the 1 and 2 that go up and down the west side? If the Wellington describes itself as being within easy walking distance of Lincoln Center, then it's pretty clearly within easy walking distance of my favorite subway line(s): *********** The N, R & W subways are outside our door; the E & D subways are two blocks away at 53rd Street & 7th Avenue; the A, B, C, 1 and 2 subways are three blocks away at Columbus Circle. The 6 & 7 buses are on the next corner and the 10, 20, 104, 57, 30 and 31 buses are one block away. *********** from: http://www.wellingtonhotel.com/location.asp?numid=2790A5DF-4F49-4087-BA52-FBB0BE8D7DAE&timer=9%2F29%2F2003+6%3A08%3A54+PM Hmm. I should prehaps tinyurl it: http://tinyurl.com/p3sq -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 12:11:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UHBL21017157 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:11:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 398271E60385; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:31:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2BF11E60383 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:31:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E16A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:27:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12633434 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:27:38 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8U0Rcp14021 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:27:38 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.23) id 1A48Nc-0004rL-W5 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:28:41 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030929170925.0539e038@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:29:51 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Pulling Out of Iraq In-Reply-To: <3F78C52A.29550E85@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, >So what *should* the US do now? The US *should* say, whoops, our tinpot dictator got out of control and took out Iraq's tinpot dictator -- sorry for the collateral damage/you're welcome he's gone -- and then turn the job over to the UN. But the Administration needs to transfer significantly more money from taxpayer (and future taxpayer) pockets to crony corporations before the USeans really care. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 12:12:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UHC021017296 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:12:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7EEEE1E602C2; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:22:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B5A51E6008F for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:22:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001835FA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:18:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12614557 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:18:53 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8TKIRp12379 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:18:27 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.172.180]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030929201821.DHPL1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:18:21 -0400 Message-ID: <3F78938E.5F9A2CD7@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:18:22 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: AHA! References: <20030929200813.41390.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > If you must, you must. And I must. It is done: ************ Thank you for purchasing your travel with nwa.com. A Trip Summary & Receipt, with complete E-Ticket information, will be emailed to you shortly. YOUR TRIP COST SUMMARY Total Cost: 25,000 Miles / $0.00 ************ The only oddity is that I could've sworn I clicked on seat 12C for MEM->LGA, but the confirmation said 11C. Maybe that's what I did click on. It will be fine. And I like that I'm in 2A for TUP->MEM. I like those little single seats. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 12:12:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UHCH21017342 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:12:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7BDDE1E603F1; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:15:29 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E521E603F0 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:15:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E18E0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:11:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12638964 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:10:44 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8U2Aip25907 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:10:44 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.172.180]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030930021039.UJHL1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:10:39 -0400 Message-ID: <3F78E61F.A1933014@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:10:39 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hurricane Juan References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: > I hope Sara, Drusie and Xerxes put up with me and tolerate my > presence in their house. Hope it doesn't rain. Hope the rashmobile > behaves itself. etc. etc. So you aren't there yet? But B&C have left? Who is tending the kitties right now? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 12:12:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UHCH21017339 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:12:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 76CF71E603E8; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:08:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 394CC1E603E7 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:08:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E18DE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:04:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12638623 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:04:16 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f62.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.62]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8U24Fp25246 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:04:15 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:04:09 -0700 Received: from 64.24.186.144 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 02:04:09 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.24.186.144] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Cc: bonniev@gwi.com Subject: Re: Hurricane Juan Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 02:04:09 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Sep 2003 02:04:09.0910 (UTC) FILETIME=[23054D60:01C386F7] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > >It should be fun. We will be back home > > >a week from tomorrow, god and Northwest Airlines willing. > > > And while we are gone, Rashmi is going to come. She'll stay at our house, > > look after the cats, and hike in Acadia National Park. Luckily, the > > weather here is supposed to be lots nicer than the weather in Wisconsin. > > > > bonnie > >Really? How convenient! >Good for all of you, perhaps >-D. M. Looking after the cats is just a ruse. Acadiafest whetted my appetite for Maine hiking and Bonnie and Clyde very kindly offered to let me stay at their place and experience fall in Maine while they're gone. When we first talked about this it looked like I might have some time on my hands and it seemed like a good idea. Still sounds like a good idea though I had to cut my trip (the length) in half. I hope Sara, Drusie and Xerxes put up with me and tolerate my presence in their house. Hope it doesn't rain. Hope the rashmobile behaves itself. etc. etc. -rashmi _________________________________________________________________ Get MSN 8 Dial-up Internet Service FREE for one month. Limited time offer-- sign up now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 12:13:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UHCx21017470 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:13:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8E94D1E603B4; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:28:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56C611E603B0 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:28:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E1801@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:24:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12636688 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:24:15 -0400 Received: from web20501.mail.yahoo.com (web20501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.136]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8U1OEp21209 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:24:14 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:24:13 PDT Message-ID: <20030930012413.32710.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:24:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Hurricane Juan To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20030929221838.GF24998@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Tushar Samant wrote: > 02003-09-29 | Lynne Weber > writes: > > > Thanks for defending me, "Ken Miller". I made no > > > snotty posts about any announcement. > > > > The posts were made, the announcement was not. > > Well, there weren't any posts about the announcement. Sounds logical to me. Perhaps I should hang up my mouse for a while. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 12:13:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UHDF21017564 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:13:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 825181E60313; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:58:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4445D1E60312 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:58:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E1301@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:54:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12623841 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:54:08 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8TLs7p28722 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:54:07 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.172.180]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030929215402.TNEF1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:54:02 -0400 Message-ID: <3F78A9FA.E825276E@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:54:02 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Are These People Trustworthy? References: <5.1.1.5.2.20030929143515.00a5e850@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > Where are you staying? The Wellington. It was $129 on its own website but $109 by these people whose trustworthiness I was asking about. It's the one I stayed in (for less than that -- prices have a way of creeping upward, especially hotel prices in NYC) when I went two years ago -- the time I tried to get to see "The Fantastiks" before it closed forever. The Wellington is next door to Carnegie Hall, which is a pretty good location no matter what you're doing. The CH schedule has almost nothing listed for that time period, alas. There is a concert on the 28th I'll probably go to just because it's there. It sounds ok, though doesn't include my real favorites. I need to look at the CH website again and see what's in that concert. I remember that Beethoven's 8th is. Can't remember what else. I'm also trying to remember where the nearest subway stop is. I think there's one very close but that it's one of those letter ones rather than the number ones. I like the number ones better. I need to look at a NYC map and get my bearings. Wouldn't it be not many blocks west of there to my favorite subway line -- the 6 or 9 or whatever it is that runs up and down the west side? I might need to buy another toaster-oven pan at Zabar's. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 12:13:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UHDG21017570 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:13:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 866571E6030B; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:41:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 458881E60309 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:41:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E1260@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:37:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12622667 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:37:25 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8TLbIp26898 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:37:18 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8TLbGW1017698 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:37:16 -0700 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8TLbFWq017675; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:37:16 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20030929143515.00a5e850@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:35:42 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Are These People Trustworthy? In-Reply-To: <3F78A45E.BBBF2CDF@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:30 PM 9/29/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >http://www.new-york-hotels-discounts-reservations.com/ > >I hope they're trustworthy since I just used them. Their rate for the >same hotel was significantly cheaper than the hotel's own rates. Where are you staying? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 12:13:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UHDG21017578 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:13:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 852DD1E602C1; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:23:03 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4780F1E6008F for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:23:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E0F14@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:19:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12614593 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:18:53 -0400 Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.17]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8TKImp12420 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:18:48 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HLZ0065USG1OM@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:19:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.37] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:14:54 -0400 Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:14:54 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: I matched Julia Roberts To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <3005f1304f72.304f723005f1@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I matched Kathy Bates! (And I'm okay with that.) Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: Lynne Weber Date: Saturday, September 27, 2003 9:47 pm Subject: Re: I matched Julia Roberts > --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > > > http://www.bravotv.com/Inside_the_Actors_Studio/Personality_Profile/ > > > Gwyneth Paltrow and I are like this: || > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > http://shopping.yahoo.com > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 12:13:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UHDG21017577 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:13:18 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 839B71E602C4; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:24:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49DC51E6008F for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:24:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E0F13@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:20:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12614783 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:20:53 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8TKKrp12898 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:20:53 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8TKKqu14326 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:20:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 8EDF816B4; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:20:52 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:20:52 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hurricane Juan Message-ID: <20030929202052.GA7328@pobox.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-28 | Bookrat writes: > At 8:15 PM -0700 9/28/03, Rashmi Murthy wrote: > >Natalie: > > > >>Neat! When is she going to make the official announcement about next > >>year's fest, btw? > > > >I made the Namibia announcement ages ago. Tushar's already written a > >number of snotty posts about it. > > A little bit of archive searching shows that you have *not* made any sort > of announcement, at least not on-list since July 1 or later. The closest > you've come to it was an ambiguous response to the statement "I don't know > what happened to Namibia," your response being as follows: "It's still > there. How many meebers would be interested in a trip to Namibia next > year?" That sounds more like a request for a show of hands than an > announcement. > > Of course, by hallowed Words-L tradition, suggestion is nine-tenths of the > decision-making process, and it would be only reasonable to suppose that > such wordslers as are inclined to flocculate will do so in or around > Windhoek on or around 4 July 2004. But (to be pedantic) that isn't the > same thing as an actual announcement. > > Ken Miller > Department of Phatic Drivel > Bernard Chien Perro Memorial Institute for Words-L Studies Thanks for defending me, "Ken Miller". I made no snotty posts about any announcement. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 12:13:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UHDY21017658 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:13:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 81D4C1E6016E; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 05:45:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E5E61E60074 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 05:45:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009DFA40@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 6:41:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12566033 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 06:41:49 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8TAfnE21305 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 06:41:49 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.133.174]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030929104144.RAIN1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 06:41:44 -0400 Message-ID: <3F780C68.6B1FD223@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 05:41:44 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hurricane Juan References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: > I made the Namibia announcement ages ago. Tushar's already written a > number of snotty posts about it. Hmm. I remember Namibia discussions but not an official announcement. That must have been when I was on nomail. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 12:13:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UHDX21017654 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:13:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8D29F1E60534; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 05:11:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B8B41E60532 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 05:11:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00184A7F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 6:07:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12665284 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 06:07:20 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8UA7Kp05834 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 06:07:20 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.164.149]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030930100715.DDTY1781.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 06:07:15 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7955D4.2F0A13F0@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 05:07:16 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Are These People Trustworthy? References: <20030930012741.92587.qmail@web20511.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bookrat wrote: > >No, they're LC. I hope I'm in P. > > Are you sure you wouldn't rather be in HQ? Good question. I still think of myself as a P person, but I am retired. HQ might be more fun. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 12:13:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UHDp21017777 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:13:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BCE391E603F6; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:26:53 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 834361E603F4 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:26:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E193F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:22:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12639551 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:22:52 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8U2Mqp27063 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:22:52 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.172.180]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030930022246.XRJF1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:22:46 -0400 Message-ID: <3F78E8F7.1C4105A7@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:22:47 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hurricane Juan References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: > I made the announcement *way* before Acadiafest. IIRR 2003 and 2004 > sites were announced at or around the same time. Serves me right for > trying to be *proactive* for once. I should go back to putting off things > until the last possible moment. I didn't remember that it was an official announcement. I thought it was just a . So it's for sure? Have we established details yet? (I'm not suggesting that it's up to the site-announcer to establish all the details. I'm just asking whether we as a group have gotten into that yet. I've been on nomail off and on.) Namibia plans may take more advance thought than most of our other fest plans have required (even though the best, imho, of the fests have indeed had some far-in-advance details established). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 12:13:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UHDp21017778 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:13:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B806C1E603EC; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:23:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 808541E603F4 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:23:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E1915@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:19:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12639429 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:19:58 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8U2Jwp26729 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:19:58 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A4A7J-0007hZ-59 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:19:57 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030929191846.038962a8@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:22:11 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Pulling Out of Iraq In-Reply-To: <3F78E5BE.A5CB2C5@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030929170925.0539e038@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20030929184550.03f5e240@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, >The skunk the US supported a while back when it was to do >so? The Middle East in general has been messed up for the last 70 years or so by the big Western countries. Doesn't make it right, but doesn't put the US on the hook by itself either. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 12:14:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UHEA21017865 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:14:10 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BB77B1E60325; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:22:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82FE91E60324 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:22:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E13BC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:18:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12625784 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:18:39 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8TMIdp31701 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:18:39 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8TMIcu28509 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:18:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id BD10016B4; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:18:38 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:18:38 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hurricane Juan Message-ID: <20030929221838.GF24998@pobox.com> References: <20030929202052.GA7328@pobox.com> <20030929202944.80798.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030929202944.80798.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-29 | Lynne Weber writes: > > Thanks for defending me, "Ken Miller". I made no > > snotty posts about any announcement. > > The posts were made, the announcement was not. Well, there weren't any posts about the announcement. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 12:14:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UHEB21017869 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:14:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B738E1E602B1; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:05:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 666C01E602A2 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:05:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00183522@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:01:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12612264 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:01:26 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8TK1Qp08001 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:01:26 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.172.180]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030929200120.PMHX1810.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:01:20 -0400 Message-ID: <3F788F91.1E94B243@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:01:21 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: AHA! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I can do it -- take the 11:29 flight -- if going to LGA instead of to Newark! And I can get home long before dark! The Newark return didn't leave until late afternoon. This one leaves LGA at 9:45 a.m. and gets me to Tupelo early afternoon. So screw the monorail or whatever it is. This is a Weiner! I can even pick up Spencer on my way home from Tupelo instead of the next day. Thu, Dec 25 11:29am Depart Tupelo (TUP) 12:10pm Arrive Memphis (MEM) Plane Change 12:40pm Depart Memphis (MEM) 4:04pm Arrive New York (LGA) Mon, Dec 29 9:45am Depart New York (LGA) 11:49am Arrive Memphis (MEM) Plane Change 12:40pm Depart Memphis (MEM) 1:31pm Arrive Tupelo (TUP) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 12:14:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UHEU21017902 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:14:30 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B30361E6028A; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:24:03 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 446921E6028C for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:24:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00183362@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:20:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12608073 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:20:02 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8TJJxp32164 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:20:00 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.172.180]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030929191954.SPYW1781.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:19:54 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7885DA.C1422E78@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:19:54 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Decisions, Decisions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ok, so I just called Furrbabies and got Spencer into that last xmas space. Now I'm trying to decide on plans. I decided to forget the pre-xmas trip because of the lag I mentioned earlier between the previous weekend and the 25th and instead make it from xmas day until the 29th, giving me a weekend of various concert/theater possibilities. My idea was to fly to NY on the 25th and home on the 29th. The flights that cost 25,000 ff miles leave Tupelo at 7:00 a.m. and sometime that night. The latter is out. I don't want to arrive at Newark at something like 1 a.m. There's a flight that leaves Tupelo at 11:29 a.m., which would be perfect, but that ticket would cost 35,000 miles. My big question is whether it's worth an extra 10,000 miles to do that. I certainly don't mind early hours, but for a flight leaving Tupelo at 7, I would have to leave home around 4 a.m., which means pitch-black dark (and I'm blind). I also would be trying to find the airport and a parking place there in pitch-black dark. (Any way you look at it, I'm going to be driving home in pitch-black dark at the end of the trip, but I'm resigned to that.) That 11:29 flight is available for 25,000 miles the day before -- Dec. 24. But I don't want to go on the 24th because I have a feeling that there would be nothing to do in NYC on the 25th -- that things would be closed. Or would they be? Hmm. Maybe I should check Laguardia. I was checking Newark since supposedly it's the best way to go now that the monorail or whatever it is exists. Then again, I bet which airport it is wouldn't affect this situation -- that it would be the same choices from Tupelo to Memphis regardless. Any advice? I guess I could spend the night of the 24th in Tupelo. Or for that matter, I could spend it in Memphis, but that seems silly since a ff ticket would cost exactly the same from Tupelo or from Memphis. (In a way it's dumb to use ff miles since the regular fare is very low.) Life is complicated. But at least my furry baby has a room at the inn -- drop-off the 24th, pick-up the 30th. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 12:14:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UHEl21017990 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:14:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B04CA1E601E8; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 09:56:48 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D7D01E601E6 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 09:56:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00182890@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:52:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12581179 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:52:47 -0400 Received: from web20511.mail.yahoo.com (web20511.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.150]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8TEqlE14366 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:52:47 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20511.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 07:52:46 PDT Message-ID: <20030929145246.98980.qmail@web20511.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 07:52:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: from the gay librarians list To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <2e28172dffd8.2dffd82e2817@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote: > > HA HA HA HA HA you said 'fridge' ha ha > > I hate when people spell that 'frig'. It's only spelled that way by those who do not have refridgerators. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 12:15:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UHFB21018127 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:15:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4B6F51E603BB; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:36:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D81F1E603B7 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:36:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E180F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:32:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12636967 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:32:04 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8U1W4p21913 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:32:04 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.172.180]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030930013155.TVRW1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:31:55 -0400 Message-ID: <3F78DD0B.9E80DBF3@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:31:55 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Aberrant and Unpleasant Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I think this is the first time I've ever turned on heat in September. How depressing it is. But I was tired of being cold and am always curious at season-change time to see whether the heat/cool still works. The heat is working, but I hate it. I hate the feel and smell of artificial heating, and I hate that it's this cold so early. This is not yet season-change time. That's usually around Halloween. This cold weather will surely not continue, of course. It's way too early to need heat very often. Still, though, I find it mightily depressing. I don't much like artificial cooling either, but I find it less obnoxious in feel and smell than artificial heating. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 12:15:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UHFS21018191 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:15:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4218A1E602A3; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:47:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D39D61E602A2 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:47:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E0D18@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:43:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12610376 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:43:54 -0400 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8TJhsp04423 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:43:54 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 12:43:53 PDT Message-ID: <20030929194353.15235.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 12:43:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Althea To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F78879D.F0A7E3FE@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I did mention, didn't I, the newspaper headline here > that said "Mother > Teresa Beautified"? Did they print a retraction? Because it didn't happen. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 12:15:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UHFS21018189 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:15:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4B5B21E602CB; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:33:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13C8E1E602C9 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:33:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E0F8C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:29:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12615656 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:29:46 -0400 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8TKTjp14581 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:29:45 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 13:29:44 PDT Message-ID: <20030929202944.80798.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 13:29:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Hurricane Juan To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20030929202052.GA7328@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Thanks for defending me, "Ken Miller". I made no > snotty posts > about any announcement. The posts were made, the announcement was not. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 12:16:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UHGj21018376 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:16:45 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 54AA31E60322; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:21:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B9911E60320 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:21:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E13D4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:17:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12625714 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:17:51 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8TMHop31590 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:17:50 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8TMHou27850 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:17:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 0540316B4; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:17:50 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:17:49 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Are These People Trustworthy? Message-ID: <20030929221749.GE24998@pobox.com> References: <3F78A45E.BBBF2CDF@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F78A45E.BBBF2CDF@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-29 | Natalie Maynor writes: > http://www.new-york-hotels-discounts-reservations.com/ > > I hope they're trustworthy since I just used them. Their rate for the > same hotel was significantly cheaper than the hotel's own rates. That's whom I got my New York reservations from. My room was a bit less than I had expected, but only a bit. And it was amazingly cheap. I will as a matter of fact stay there if go again. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 12:16:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UHGm21018388 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:16:48 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5776C1E60092; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:36:48 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 116F81E60053 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:36:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E1429@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:32:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12626860 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:32:46 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8TMWkp01013 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:32:46 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.172.180]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030929223241.WEOF1781.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:32:41 -0400 Message-ID: <3F78B309.37A26081@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:32:41 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group , Judith Subject: Re: Are These People Trustworthy? References: <3F78A45E.BBBF2CDF@maynor.net> <20030929221749.GE24998@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > > I hope they're trustworthy since I just used them. Their rate for the > > same hotel was significantly cheaper than the hotel's own rates. > > That's whom I got my New York reservations from. My room was > a bit less than I had expected, but only a bit. And it was > amazingly cheap. I will as a matter of fact stay there if go > again. Oh good. Thank you for your kind reply. I know what the rooms are like at the Wellington, having stayed there before, and they're fine. Then again, maybe that have a shabby floor of shabby rooms for people making reservations through the cheap-rate place. I was surprised two years ago to find the Wellington as nice as it was since I had found it online for a reasonable rate and assumed there must be a catch, since its location is excellent. But there wasn't. It much more expensive than it was. Judith and her neighbor Anne came down for a couple of nights and also stayed there and were also impressed with it. I should cc Judith on this. Judith: I'm going to be in NYC at the Wellington Dec. 25-29 (as in departing on the 29th). You and Paul and Anne should come on down. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 12:17:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UHH521018410 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:17:06 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 58EF71E60296; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:28:32 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 025DC1E60295 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:28:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E0C49@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:24:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12608469 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:24:30 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8TJOUp00518 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:24:30 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.172.180]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030929192424.SSKS1781.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:24:24 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7886E9.62EEDCA9@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:24:25 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Why? References: <3F780E60.EE21954B@maynor.net> <001901c38692$c1e58ea0$facadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > I have more than once heard him referred to as a second McGovern. I've heard that in the context of his being likely to lose by the margin McGovern lost by. But in any case, why are people calling him liberal? And how could anybody say he was the "most liberal" of the ten? He's clearly more liberal than people like Lieberman or Clark, but what about people like Kucinich? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 12:17:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UHHj21018572 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:17:46 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DDB5B1E60401; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:39:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A18561E60400 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:39:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E1983@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:35:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12640332 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:35:50 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f14.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8U2Zop28278 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:35:50 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:35:41 -0700 Received: from 64.24.186.144 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 02:35:40 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.24.186.144] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Pulling Out of Iraq Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 02:35:40 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Sep 2003 02:35:41.0077 (UTC) FILETIME=[8A3E7C50:01C386FB] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Pete: >Therefore, I think a large part of that $87 billion bill taxpayers are >getting is effectively wealth transfer to cronies that (if we're lucky) >renovates and repaints the house, in addition to washing it. oooh, crony capitalism, my favorite favorite subject and something this administration excels in. (There's no evidence that Cheney knows any other kind of capitalism.) There's this new firm billed to link up businesses with opportunities in Iraq - it's filled with people who pushed for the war and whose biggest asset is their access to the Bush administration. http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/30/politics/30LOBB.html?hp A group of businessmen linked by their close ties to President Bush, his family and his administration have set up a consulting firm to advise companies that want to do business in Iraq, including those seeking pieces of taxpayer-financed reconstruction projects. The firm, New Bridge Strategies, is headed by Joe M. Allbaugh, Mr. Bush's campaign manager in 2000 and the director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency until March. Other directors include Edward M. Rogers Jr., vice chairman, and Lanny Griffith, lobbyists who were assistants to the first President George Bush and now have close ties to the White House. At a time when the administration seeks Congressional approval for $20.3 billion to rebuild Iraq, part of an $87 billion package for military and other spending in Iraq and Afghanistan, the company's Web site, www .newbridgestrategies.com, says, "The opportunities evolving in Iraq today are of such an unprecedented nature and scope that no other existing firm has the necessary skills and experience to be effective both in Washington, D.C., and on the ground in Iraq." ... _________________________________________________________________ High-speed Internet access as low as $29.95/month (depending on the local service providers in your area). Click here. https://broadband.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 12:18:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UHI121018647 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:18:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D7EEB1E603ED; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:13:43 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B9F81E603EC for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:13:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E18F6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:09:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12638284 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:09:42 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8U1xgp24683 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:59:42 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8U1x6pn017315 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:59:08 -0400 Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:59:09 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: mass deleting Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: hits=0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I cannot get my DSL modem to work, so I have only tel access to the internet tonight - I will be mass deleting from the past several days. No time! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 12:18:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UHI221018653 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:18:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D3C8F1E603B8; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:31:43 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97B571E603B7 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:31:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E1809@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:27:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12636782 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:27:42 -0400 Received: from web20511.mail.yahoo.com (web20511.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.150]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8U1Rfp21430 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:27:42 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20511.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:27:41 PDT Message-ID: <20030930012741.92587.qmail@web20511.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:27:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Are These People Trustworthy? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F78B309.37A26081@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > That's whom I got my New York reservations from. > My room was > > a bit less than I had expected, but only a bit. > And it was > > amazingly cheap. I will as a matter of fact stay > there if go > > again. > > Oh good. Thank you for your kind reply. I know > what the rooms are like > at the Wellington, having stayed there before, and > they're fine. Then > again, maybe that have a shabby floor of shabby > rooms for people making > reservations through the cheap-rate place. Was there anything in there about the rooms being arranged according to the Dewey decimal system? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 12:18:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UHI121018648 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:18:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D4BCA1E603DB; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:59:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E3481E603DA for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:59:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E1898@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:55:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12637998 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:55:16 -0400 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8U1sap24101 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:54:36 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:54:35 PDT Message-ID: <20030930015435.70233.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:54:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: I matched Julia Roberts To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <48.22bd705d.2caa3a1c@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > They did; you could pick male or female. > So T.S. chose female. 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Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 12:18:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UHIK21018734 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:18:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D0AEF1E601DA; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 09:28:32 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A211A1E6002B for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 09:28:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009DFF40@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:24:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12578412 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:24:31 -0400 Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8TEOVE08465 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:24:31 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HLZ00ESGC0V7T@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:24:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.135] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:20:52 -0400 Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:20:52 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Althea To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <2ebbf22ee0a3.2ee0a32ebbf2@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Also, Althea Gibson. I'm an AG2. She used to partake of libations quite heavily at my husband's late childhood home. This was the beautiful house which backed up to the West Side Tennis Club in Forest Hills. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 12:18:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UHIL21018738 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:18:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DDAB21E60198; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 07:19:53 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACBB21E600EC for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 07:19:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018233F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 8:15:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12568318 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 08:15:52 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8TCFqE15758 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 08:15:52 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 08:15:51 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 08:15:41 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: career changes and "studies" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h8UHIL21018738 I didn't get to Cannon Beach this time, but I did go there last time I was in Portland. Just south of there is Hug Point which is an amazing place as well - with caves that are only accesible at low tide. BrP >>> cwv@GWI.NET 09/26/03 05:56PM >>> At 03:14 PM 9/26/2003 -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: >It was wonerful. I do love Portland and I do love spending time with my >totally awesome daughter and her totally awesome partner. I managed to >acquire a nasty cold - VERY unusual for me - but I had a great time anyway. Did you get out to Cannon Beach? It's one of my daughter's favorite places---and mine as well. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 12:19:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UHIu21018869 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:18:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A12341E60421; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:10:33 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62DEF1E6041F for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:10:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018430D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 23:06:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12644935 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 23:06:32 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8U36Vp32462 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 23:06:31 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 84B842B587; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:06:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6970A2B585 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:06:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:06:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pulling Out of Iraq In-Reply-To: <20030930025050.GB18834@pobox.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, Tushar Samant wrote: > Oh, I expect it will trickle down. History has proved that crony > capitalism is the only thing which works. Don't give me leftist > crap like "other kinds of capitalism". Do you want enterprises > with abundant reconstruction experience to do the job, or Jose's > Tuckpointing, Chicago? Chin up. Consider being supportive once > in a while. What should we call the new area of opportunity? > > _________ Valley > > Please list your suggestions below: > > 1. Death > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 12:19:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UHIu21018871 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:18:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AC9AE1E6041C; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:08:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7423E1E60420 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:08:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E1B57@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 23:04:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12644284 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 23:04:34 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8U34Yp32002 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 23:04:34 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h8U34UAR025774 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:04:32 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001b01c38700$9a426c60$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3F78DD0B.9E80DBF3@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Aberrant and Unpleasant Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:11:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I think this is the first time I've ever turned on heat in September. > How depressing it is. But I was tired of being cold and am always > curious at season-change time to see whether the heat/cool still works. > The heat is working, but I hate it. I hate the feel and smell of > artificial heating, and I hate that it's this cold so early. This is > not yet season-change time. That's usually around Halloween. This cold > weather will surely not continue, of course. It's way too early to need > heat very often. Still, though, I find it mightily depressing. > > I don't much like artificial cooling either, but I find it less > obnoxious in feel and smell than artificial heating. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Wait a minute. Did you move? I thought you lived in the South. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 12:19:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UHJo21018991 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:19:50 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A49B21E602BE; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:17:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CBEB1E602BB for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:17:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E0EC4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:13:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12613855 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:13:43 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8TKDhp11009 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:13:43 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.23) id 1A44Ps-0005NO-9f for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:14:44 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030929131028.04209b20@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 13:14:58 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: AHA! In-Reply-To: <3F788F91.1E94B243@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, >So screw the monorail or whatever it is. It sounds like the right choice scheduling-wise, but if it ever works out the other way, I highly recommend the EWR monorail to the train -- it's really convenient. On the other BIG hand, when I flew earlier this month, we were 2 hours late taking off because they're doing construction at EWR and had one of their two main runways completely shut down. (With FAA air traffic control these days, you get a landing slot assigned as you take off, so instead of circling the airport to land like the old days, if there are no slots they keep you from taking off instead.) If that construction's still going on, LGA might be a better choice anyway. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 12:20:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UHKQ21019009 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:20:26 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AFAC51E602A8; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:52:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C3171E602A6 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:52:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E0D3C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:48:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12610701 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:48:21 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8TJmKp05360 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:48:20 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.172.180]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030929194815.RCZO1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:48:15 -0400 Message-ID: <3F788C7F.3DD94A63@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:48:15 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Decisions, Decisions References: <20030929194016.13764.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Just don't go. Think of all you would save in: time, > money, ffm's, energy, brain power and general wear and > tear. And you wouldn't be at home to thank Spencer > for his Christmas gift. Actually, I'm not all that highly motivated to go anywhere, but I knew that I had to take immediate action on Spencer's Furrbabies reservation if I did end up deciding to go somewhere. That thought has been hanging over me. And I keep thinking that I really should use some ff miles for something since I've got something like 350,000 of them -- and one of these days airlines might simply abolish that game. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 12:22:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UHLt21019274 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:21:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 903701E602D5; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:48:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4165D1E602D4 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:48:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018370C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:44:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12616009 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:44:06 -0400 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8TKXep15303 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:33:40 -0400 Received: from ra.msstate.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.12.10/8.12.8/ra_1.2) with ESMTP; id h8TKXcfb018621 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:33:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from maynor@localhost) by ra.msstate.edu (8.12.10/8.12.7/Submit) id h8TKXceM018620 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:33:38 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:33:38 -0500 (CDT) From: Natalie Maynor Message-Id: <200309292033.h8TKXceM018620@ra.msstate.edu> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Whew Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I was soooooooo tempted until I got to the part about their probably needing to go to homes without other dogs. (I'm whewing because adding dogs to my life would be problematic/costly in many ways, including the fact that Spencer just got the very last at Fbabies for xmas.) > What: Home Needed for two female Boxers 6 & 8 years old. > When: As soon as possible - If no home is found they will be brought = > to > the shelter on Friday. > Why: The dogs belonged to Ms. Hurst's Parents and no one at this time > can take care of them any longer. > =20 > Note: The dogs probably needs to go to homes without other dogs. They > can either be adopted separate or together. They haven't been around > children so she is not sure how they would behave in that environment. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 12:44:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UHiL21019734 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:44:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C3F301E600C3; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:42:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43F8A1E60085 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:42:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E33FF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:38:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12688525 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:38:50 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8UHcnh06437 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:38:49 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h8UHcjAR026356 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:38:47 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000401c3877a$b625db40$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: HB ! Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:45:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Happy Birthday to clo. BrP Yes! HB2UCLO . . . have a great day! - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 13:00:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UI0Y21019920 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:00:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 79F6E1E6013C; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:30:48 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 134411E60092 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:30:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001857A4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:26:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12687514 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:26:45 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8UHQih04201 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:26:44 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8UHQRW1025017 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 10:26:28 -0700 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8UHQQWq024961; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 10:26:27 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20030930102351.00a56840@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 10:24:51 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: HB ! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:10 PM 9/30/2003 -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: >Happy Birthday to clo. Have a great one, clo! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 13:00:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UI0Y21019924 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:00:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DEF4F1E60170; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:33:39 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 938091E6016F for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:33:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E32E2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:10:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12686105 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:10:47 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8UHAkh00644 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:10:46 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:10:47 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:10:43 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: HB ! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h8UI0Y21019924 Happy Birthday to clo. BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 13:04:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UI4U21020051 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:04:30 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B95921E60092; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:03:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6948D1E60085 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:03:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E34A9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:58:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12689374 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:58:59 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8UHmwh08240 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:48:58 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8UHmstS012976 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:48:54 -0400 Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:48:58 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: HB ! In-Reply-To: <000401c3877a$b625db40$facadece@0018079268> Message-ID: References: <000401c3877a$b625db40$facadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, Doris Markland wrote: >Happy Birthday to clo. Bien sur! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 13:22:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UIMe21020327 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:22:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9DB401E600C3; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:21:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EB7B1E60092 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:21:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E3553@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:17:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12691801 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:17:09 -0400 Received: from web20509.mail.yahoo.com (web20509.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.144]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8UIH8h13669 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:17:08 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20509.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 11:12:01 PDT Message-ID: <20030930181201.38444.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 11:12:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: HB ! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, Doris Markland wrote: > > >Happy Birthday to clo. > > Bien sur! > > Bethany Aller a bien, clo. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 13:36:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UIad21020553 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:36:39 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 751F81E60443; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:52:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B37A1E6043E for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:52:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018446E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 23:48:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12648413 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 23:48:47 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f15.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8U3mkp04032 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 23:48:46 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:48:41 -0700 Received: from 64.24.186.50 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 03:48:40 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.24.186.50] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Pulling Out of Iraq Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 03:48:40 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Sep 2003 03:48:41.0058 (UTC) FILETIME=[BCEA8C20:01C38705] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar: >Oh, I expect it will trickle down. History has proved that crony >capitalism is the only thing which works. cite. >Don't give me leftist >crap like "other kinds of capitalism". I'm all for leftist crap like the free market. >Do you want enterprises >with abundant reconstruction experience to do the job, or Jose's >Tuckpointing, Chicago? I have no problem with Bechtel building the refineries and pipelines at 300% mark-up or however much it's going to cost us. But for routine construction and other things - you ever heard of outsourcing? Having American companies in charge of everything is going to cost a ton of extra money - the security costs alone will be enormous. > What should we call the new area of opportunity? > >_________ Valley > >Please list your suggestions below: > >1. Mess'o'potamia bwahahahaha! (with apologies to jon Stewart) _________________________________________________________________ Instant message during games with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 13:36:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UIap21020623 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:36:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 81DFA1E60283; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:06:24 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E3081E6027A for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:06:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E0B5C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:02:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12606273 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:02:23 -0400 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8TJ2ME28663 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:02:22 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.16d.2252334c (16633) for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:02:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <16d.2252334c.2ca9dba9@aol.com> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:02:01 EDT Subject: Re: Report from Iraq To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/29/2003 9:47:23 AM, dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM writes: >I'd like to post it but it's too long. If anyone >would like to see it I will send it to you as an >attachment. > I'd really like to see it very much, thank you. Could you send it in plain text if it's a PC attachment? Thanks Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 13:37:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UIax21020654 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:36:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B58381E603DF; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:05:25 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 793AD1E603DC for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:05:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00183FB7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:01:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12638433 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:01:24 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8U21Np24946 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:01:23 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A49pJ-0006Os-BU for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:01:22 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030929184550.03f5e240@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:03:06 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Pulling Out of Iraq In-Reply-To: <3F78D209.5683034@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030929170925.0539e038@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, >Isn't it the little boy who throws mud onto the side of the house who is >handed the washpail and brush to clean up the mess he made? To my mind, a large part of the messy situation in Iraq is the legacy of the regime of Saddam + UN sanctions, and even a good chunk of the destruction wrought by the war can be chalked up to ejecting a skunk which the UN disapproved of (even if it didn't approve the war). Therefore, I think a large part of that $87 billion bill taxpayers are getting is effectively wealth transfer to cronies that (if we're lucky) renovates and repaints the house, in addition to washing it. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 13:37:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UIb521020685 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:37:05 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B1DD31E60398; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:49:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70F0B1E60396 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:49:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E16FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:45:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12634261 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:45:03 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8U0j2p15886 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:45:02 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.172.180]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030930004457.XJGW24914.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:44:57 -0400 Message-ID: <3F78D209.5683034@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:44:57 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pulling Out of Iraq References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030929170925.0539e038@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > The US *should* say, whoops, our tinpot dictator got out of control and > took out Iraq's tinpot dictator -- sorry for the collateral damage/you're > welcome he's gone -- and then turn the job over to the UN. I guess I was mushy-mindedly conflating two different things. Certainly the UN should be in charge of logistics of the rebuilding. But the US should pay for it. Isn't it the little boy who throws mud onto the side of the house who is handed the washpail and brush to clean up the mess he made? The idea that we can simply turn our backs on the mess is what I find questionable. > But the Administration needs to transfer significantly more money from > taxpayer (and future taxpayer) pockets to crony corporations before the > USeans really care. Sad, but probably true. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 13:37:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UIbX21020788 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:37:33 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 402811E6043F; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:45:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E0B1E6043E for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:45:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E1D3A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 23:41:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12647863 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 23:41:04 -0400 Received: from web20501.mail.yahoo.com (web20501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.136]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8U3f4p03182 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 23:41:04 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:41:03 PDT Message-ID: <20030930034103.69448.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:41:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Pulling Out of Iraq To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > And how did the French "arrange matters to suit > themselves", anyway? It > seems to me that Karl Rove, Donald Rumsfeld, and > Condi Rice are the ones > who arranged the current state of affairs. > > Ken Miller > April Glaspie School of Diplomacy April has every right to be proud of you. As Yogi might say, your future is before you. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 13:37:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UIbZ21020796 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:37:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 42B291E60298; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:30:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFD2D1E60290 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:30:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001833AB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:26:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12608666 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:26:57 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8TJQvp00815 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:26:57 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8TJQuu27504 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:26:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 4A25616B4; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:26:56 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:26:56 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Why? Message-ID: <20030929192656.GA15693@pobox.com> References: <3F780E60.EE21954B@maynor.net> <001901c38692$c1e58ea0$facadece@0018079268> <3F7886E9.62EEDCA9@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F7886E9.62EEDCA9@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-29 | Natalie Maynor writes: > Doris Markland wrote: > > > I have more than once heard him referred to as a second McGovern. > > I've heard that in the context of his being likely to lose by the margin > McGovern lost by. But in any case, why are people calling him liberal? > And how could anybody say he was the "most liberal" of the ten? He's > clearly more liberal than people like Lieberman or Clark, but what about > people like Kucinich? The word means anything you want. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 13:38:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UIcB21020945 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:38:12 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5F8521E603F7; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:26:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 278FA1E603F6 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:26:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001840A5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:22:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12639506 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:22:16 -0400 Received: from web20511.mail.yahoo.com (web20511.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.150]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8U2MGp26974 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:22:16 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20511.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:22:15 PDT Message-ID: <20030930022215.8177.qmail@web20511.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:22:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Pulling Out of Iraq To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030929190409.03e41c40@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > After the US has been holding the world hostage, > arranging matters to suit > itself, *and* calling them names the whole while? > Gee, I wonder why > they're being so cheeky. Oh foot, Pete. That diatribe was meant to smoke Ms. Kay out of her hermitage. BTW, didn't BrP mention some caves that disappear at high tide? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 13:38:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UIcB21020947 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:38:12 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 54A801E603EF; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:14:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14E261E603E9 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:14:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E18DB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:10:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12638933 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:10:07 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f20.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8U2A7p25876 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:10:07 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:10:01 -0700 Received: from 64.24.186.144 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 02:10:01 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.24.186.144] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: I matched Julia Roberts Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 02:10:01 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Sep 2003 02:10:01.0787 (UTC) FILETIME=[F4C178B0:01C386F7] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie: >I matched Kathy Bates! I matched Carol Burnett. >(And I'm okay with that.) ditto. Btw, I'm listening to Los Lonely Boys as we speak. Not bad. I'd love to hear them live. -rashmi, whose favorite in the genre is -Ozomatli- _________________________________________________________________ Get MSN 8 Dial-up Internet Service FREE for one month. Limited time offer-- sign up now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 14:42:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UJgK21021851 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:42:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9E1351E600DE; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:40:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1478F1E600C3 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:40:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00185A48@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:42:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12694542 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:42:13 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8UIgDh19296 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:42:13 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00185A3F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:42:13 -0400 Message-Id: <200309301842.h8UIgDh19296@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:42:13 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: HB ! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 11:12:01 -0700, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- "Bethany K. Dumas" >wrote: >> On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, Doris Markland wrote: >> >> >Happy Birthday to clo. >> >> Bien sur! >> >> Bethany > >Aller a bien, clo. > Merci a tout le monde clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 14:42:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UJgK21021852 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:42:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A38551E600C3; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:40:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16D5C1E600DB for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:40:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00185A98@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:52:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12694587 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:52:48 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8UIgmh19374 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:42:48 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8UIghAR030807 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:42:43 -0400 Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:42:47 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: HB ! In-Reply-To: <200309301842.h8UIgDh19296@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: References: <200309301842.h8UIgDh19296@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >Merci a tout le monde de rien Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 15:00:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UK0r21022223 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:00:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4A1DC1E60481; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 00:33:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F67E1E6047F for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 00:33:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E2046@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 1:29:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12654869 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 01:29:48 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8U5Tmp13597 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 01:29:48 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8U5Tmu15825 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 00:29:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id EABDF16B4; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 00:29:47 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 00:29:47 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pulling Out of Iraq Message-ID: <20030930052947.GA26448@pobox.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030929200834.040bfb40@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030929200834.040bfb40@mail.istori.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-29 | Peter Kaminski writes: > >Do you want enterprises with abundant reconstruction experience to do the > >job, or Jose's Tuckpointing, Chicago? > > If Jose can cop to "enlightened self-interest" instead of "liberation," I > vote for Jose. WRONG The correct answer is: "no way!" From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 15:01:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UK1h21022446 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:01:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A5FE21E602C5; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:27:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67ECD1E6008F for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:27:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00183618@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:23:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12614938 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:23:18 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8TKMjp13223 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:22:45 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.172.180]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030929202240.DKGD1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:22:40 -0400 Message-ID: <3F78948E.B3A879E2@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:22:38 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: AHA! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030929131028.04209b20@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > If that construction's still going on, LGA might be a better choice anyway. And it's closer. I will take the shuttle since I haven't ever tried the regular bus route from LGA to the subway stop (and since the bus schedule on xmas day is probably skeletal). And I will probably go on and take the shuttle back on the 29th since you have to get to airports so early these days, meaning that I won't have much dawdling time for a 9:45 flight -- like not enough time for the possibility of getting off at the wrong subway stop when looking for the bus stop and of getting lost on the streets of Queens. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 15:01:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UK1o21022491 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:01:50 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A798D1E60337; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:43:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 649BE1E60053 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:43:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E1458@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:39:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12627424 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:39:36 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8TMdap02100 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:39:36 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.172.180]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030929223930.WHCM1781.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:39:30 -0400 Message-ID: <3F78B4A3.194119E8@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:39:31 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Are These People Trustworthy? References: <5.1.1.5.2.20030929143515.00a5e850@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.1.5.2.20030929152605.00a52570@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > > I like staying across the street from Virgil's. Good pies. I stayed very near there one time -- at a hotel whose prices have soared way up: the Ambassador. It was a good bargain then. I liked it in that the Beth Henley play I wanted to see was right next door. I liked it in other ways also but disliked its strange heating system. This was in December -- one of my main NYC times, it seems -- this wasn't the time I invited Miles to meet me on top of the ESB at sunset on Dec. 17 -- I was staying at the Pickford Arms (??) on that trip -- this was a later trip. Anyway, there were no thermostats in the rooms. They turned the heat off all day, which made sense since people are rarely in hotel rooms during the day, but the bad thing was that the heat came spewing forth around 10 p.m., which is when I want to turn OFF heat, not turn it on. Fortunately, there was a window I could open. Otherwise, I would have died of gagging at the heat when trying to sleep. As I've mentioned before, I have been negatively rather than favorably impressed by the food at Virgil's, but I do like its Words-L memories. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 15:02:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UK2221022571 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:02:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A27C31E603CE; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:49:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A5F41E603C9 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:49:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E184D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:45:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12637542 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:45:12 -0400 Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8U1jBp23123 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:45:11 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.48.22bd705d (4312) for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:45:00 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <48.22bd705d.2caa3a1c@aol.com> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:45:00 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] I matched Julia Roberts To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/29/2003 8:36:10 PM Central Daylight Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << Wonder why they don't have a group of males celebs for the bemusement of masculine quiz-takers? >> They did; you could pick male or female. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 15:02:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UK2321022576 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:02:03 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A9BA01E603FF; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:36:48 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DBFC1E603FE for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:36:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E1981@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:32:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12640161 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:32:47 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8U2Wkp28014 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:32:46 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A4AJh-0008Uf-Om for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:32:46 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030929193107.040c3ea0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:35:00 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: namibia In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy writes, >I made the announcement *way* before Acadiafest. IIRR 2003 and 2004 >sites were announced at or around the same time. Serves me right for >trying to be *proactive* for once. I should go back to putting off things >until the last possible moment. Here's the announcement (I left out some bottom-quoted thread): >Message-ID: >Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:16:38 +0000 >From: Rashmi Murthy >Subject: Re: namibia >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >'kay, it's official - NamibiaFest 2004. This will give everyone >enough time to line up vacation time and travel money. > >(Sorry for horning in on your trip, Rita, but this thread >is making me very gelous. I *have* to go.) > >-rashmi And the start of that thread: >Message-ID: <3D33786D.9040704@swbell.net> >Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:35:41 -0500 >From: Rita Chapman >Subject: namibia >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >PBS had a show last night, and now I want to go to Namibia >for vacation :). Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 15:02:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UK2J21022657 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:02:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 984B81E60038; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 09:49:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68E3E1E601E5 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 09:49:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E0001@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:45:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12580440 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:45:35 -0400 Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8TEjZE12688 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:45:35 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HLZ0086OCYTMU@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:44:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.135] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:41:34 -0400 Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:41:34 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: from the gay librarians list To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <2e28172dffd8.2dffd82e2817@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > HA HA HA HA HA you said 'fridge' ha ha I hate when people spell that 'frig'. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 15:02:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UK2Y21022739 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:02:36 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9F30E1E603E7; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:11:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63CA91E603E6 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:11:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E18CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:07:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12638804 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:07:43 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8U27gp25644 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:07:43 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A49vR-0006p6-IQ for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:07:42 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030929190409.03e41c40@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:09:54 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Pulling Out of Iraq In-Reply-To: <20030930015044.50701.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> References: <3F78C52A.29550E85@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber writes, >I cannot, however, help but think that the German, Russians, and >especially the French now want to hold us hostage until they have arranged >matters to suit themselves. THAT makes me mad. After the US has been holding the world hostage, arranging matters to suit itself, *and* calling them names the whole while? Gee, I wonder why they're being so cheeky. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 15:02:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UK2a21022757 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:02:37 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9CA541E60411; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:54:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63FB81E60410 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:54:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E19D7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:50:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12641205 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:50:51 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8U2oop29628 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:50:50 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8U2oou07864 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:50:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 3451816B4; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:50:50 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:50:50 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pulling Out of Iraq Message-ID: <20030930025050.GB18834@pobox.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-30 | Rashmi Murthy writes: > Pete: > > >Therefore, I think a large part of that $87 billion bill taxpayers are > >getting is effectively wealth transfer to cronies that (if we're lucky) > >renovates and repaints the house, in addition to washing it. > > oooh, crony capitalism, my favorite favorite subject and something > this administration excels in. (There's no evidence that Cheney > knows any other kind of capitalism.) > > There's this new firm billed to link up businesses with opportunities > in Iraq - it's filled with people who pushed for the war and whose > biggest asset is their access to the Bush administration. > > http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/30/politics/30LOBB.html?hp > > A group of businessmen linked by their close ties to President Bush, his > family and his administration have set up a consulting firm to advise > companies that want to do business in Iraq, including those seeking pieces > of taxpayer-financed reconstruction projects. Oh, I expect it will trickle down. History has proved that crony capitalism is the only thing which works. Don't give me leftist crap like "other kinds of capitalism". Do you want enterprises with abundant reconstruction experience to do the job, or Jose's Tuckpointing, Chicago? Chin up. Consider being supportive once in a while. What should we call the new area of opportunity? _________ Valley Please list your suggestions below: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 15:02:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UK2c21022765 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:02:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 94C951E60437; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:29:32 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 575FC1E60435 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:29:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E1C97@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 23:25:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12646645 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 23:25:31 -0400 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8U3PUp01995 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 23:25:30 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:25:30 PDT Message-ID: <20030930032530.93419.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:25:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Aberrant and Unpleasant To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <001b01c38700$9a426c60$facadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Wait a minute. Did you move? > I thought you lived in the South. > > - D. M. It's pretty chilly here, as well. This AM, 47 degrees. And I believe we are even souther. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 15:54:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UKs221023454 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:54:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8909F1E600C3; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:52:32 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 352231E6004E for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:52:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00185DD9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:21:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12703871 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:21:51 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8UKLpD07017 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:21:51 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 7E0D82B58F; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:21:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F2902B585 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:21:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:21:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Stupid joke In-Reply-To: <000e01c3878f$c58051a0$facadece@0018079268> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, Doris Markland wrote: > I am embarrassed to admit this but I > didn't catch on. I kept thinking that > "scroll" was a strange name and what > did it have to do with slippers. It's the Birthday song. Sort of. Saying p'tit or 'tit helps. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 16:23:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8ULNR21023818 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:23:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 605BD1E602BA; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:12:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 277AF1E602B7 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:12:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E0E55@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:08:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12613143 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:08:17 -0400 Received: from web20506.mail.yahoo.com (web20506.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8TK8Gp09581 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:08:16 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 13:08:13 PDT Message-ID: <20030929200813.41390.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 13:08:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: AHA! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F788F91.1E94B243@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > I can do it -- take the 11:29 flight -- if going to > LGA instead of to > Newark! And I can get home long before dark! The > Newark return didn't > leave until late afternoon. This one leaves LGA at > 9:45 a.m. and gets > me to Tupelo early afternoon. So screw the monorail > or whatever it is. > This is a Weiner! I can even pick up Spencer on my > way home from Tupelo > instead of the next day. > > > Thu, Dec 25 > 11:29am Depart Tupelo (TUP) > 12:10pm Arrive Memphis (MEM) > Plane Change > 12:40pm Depart Memphis (MEM) > 4:04pm Arrive New York (LGA) > > Mon, Dec 29 > > 9:45am Depart New York (LGA) > 11:49am Arrive Memphis (MEM) > Plane Change > 12:40pm Depart Memphis (MEM) > 1:31pm Arrive Tupelo (TUP) If you must, you must. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 16:23:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8ULNS21023837 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:23:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 68B601E60373; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:54:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DB221E600BA for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:54:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E15EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:50:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12631533 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:50:08 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8TNo8p10653 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:50:08 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.172.180]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030929235001.HIOF1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:50:01 -0400 Message-ID: <3F78C52A.29550E85@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:50:02 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Pulling Out of Iraq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I was just reading a column by Charley Reese, a column that made some good points: http://reese.king-online.com/Reese_20030929/index.php But I'm wondering about this part: "Now the neoconservatives who got us into a war on false pretenses are saying we 'can't afford to lose the peace.' This same ploy was used to prolong America's stay in Vietnam. We won't lose the peace if we hand Iraq over to the Iraqis and say goodbye. We will if we prolong our stay." I agree with his point about the condescension in saying that the Iraqis aren't capable of governing themselves. And this part may well be true: "Bush wants to stay in Iraq for purely economic reasons. He wants to make sure it's we, not the Iraqis, who decide who gets the business of a rebuilding a country. He doesn't want a democratic government in Iraq. He wants a puppet government that will follow his orders." But there's something about just bombing the hell out of a country for no clear reason and then saying, "Ok, bye now," that seems wrong. So what *should* the US do now? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 16:23:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8ULNY21023880 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:23:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6CECA1E603F5; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:26:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 335C51E603F4 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:26:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E191A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:22:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12639487 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:22:02 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f15.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8U2M2p26942 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:22:02 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:21:57 -0700 Received: from 64.24.186.144 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 02:21:56 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.24.186.144] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Hurricane Juan Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 02:21:56 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Sep 2003 02:21:57.0058 (UTC) FILETIME=[9F172A20:01C386F9] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: >So you aren't there yet? But B&C have left? Who is tending the kitties >right now? I'm leaving after work tomorrow. B&C left this afternoon. Their friend, Susan, will look after the kittens until I get there. -rashmi _________________________________________________________________ Help protect your PC. Get a FREE computer virus scan online from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 16:23:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8ULNb21023914 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:23:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2AB861E6043D; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:40:03 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E67CB1E6043B for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:40:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E1CF1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 23:36:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12647415 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 23:36:01 -0400 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:71Yej4K3eMS54BoxdSZ6j7ihhBtd8+tK@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8U3a1p02762 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 23:36:01 -0400 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7997130129 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:36:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE5F62382C for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:35:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20030930015044.50701.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> References: <3F78C52A.29550E85@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: The sunrise is going down quickly X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Jon-Carroll: We live in a culture of lies Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:35:55 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Pulling Out of Iraq Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 6:50 PM -0700 9/29/03, Lynne Weber wrote: >We may have been very wrong in the methods and degrees >of force we have employed in this mess, as well as >wrong in the motives. I cannot, however, help but >think that the German, Russians, and especially the >French now want to hold us hostage until they have >arranged matters to suit themselves. THAT makes me >mad. The Germans, Russians, and especially the French had the smarts not to go into a war without knowing ahead of time how they were going to get out of it. We got into this all by ourselves and, in the absence of the intervention of some invisible miraculous Hand Of It's-Okay-Fuggedaboudit, it's up to us to get ourselves out of the hole we dug ourselves. To blame the French for our own behavior is absurd. And how did the French "arrange matters to suit themselves", anyway? It seems to me that Karl Rove, Donald Rumsfeld, and Condi Rice are the ones who arranged the current state of affairs. Ken Miller April Glaspie School of Diplomacy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 17:10:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UMAZ21024674 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:10:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1781D1E60128; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:25:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8DC41E6012F for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:25:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E39B3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:58:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12702152 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:58:48 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8UJwlD03386 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:58:47 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.131.254]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030930195842.WQZT20055.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:58:42 -0400 Message-ID: <3F79E072.3E364B96@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:58:42 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: HB ! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: > > Happy Birthday to clo. A Strong Ditto! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 17:10:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UMAZ21024673 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:10:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 108981E6010A; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:25:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D30F11E60128 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:25:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E39B2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:58:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12702129 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:58:16 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8UJwGD03307 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:58:16 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.131.254]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030930195810.WQTZ20055.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:58:10 -0400 Message-ID: <3F79E052.9E3825F1@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:58:10 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: apparently I'm in the wrong party References: <200309301554.h8UFsQp16726@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > http://www.selectsmart.com/president/ > > According to this, I should be a little more satisfied with Kucinich than > with Dean, and not impressed by Clark. Here are my results. Tell me about the Gov of Iowa. Why are he and I so out of synch? What does you subject header mean? What party are you in? **************************** Your Results: 1. Dean, Gov. Howard, VT - Democrat (100%) Click here for info 2. Kucinich, Cong. Dennis, OH - Democrat (99%) Click here for info 3. Green Party Candidate (90%) Click here for info 4. Moseley-Braun, Former Senator Carol IL - Democrat (86%) Click here for info 5. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (86%) Click here for info 6. Sharpton, Reverend Al - Democrat (77%) Click here for info 7. Jackson, Cong. Jesse Jr., IL - Democrat (75%) Click here for info 8. Edwards, Senator John, NC - Democrat (75%) Click here for info 9. Gephardt, Cong. Dick, MO - Democrat (74%) Click here for info 10. LaRouche, Lyndon H. Jr. - Democrat (72%) Click here for info 11. Leahy, Patrick Senator, Vermont - Democrat (70%) Click here for info 12. Lieberman Senator Joe CT - Democrat (69%) Click here for info 13. 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Phillips, Howard - Constitution (4%) Click here for info -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 17:10:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UMAa21024692 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:10:36 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5B5931E6012F; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:25:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F9561E6013C for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:25:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E3A07@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:15:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12702934 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:15:22 -0400 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8UKFKD05587 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:15:20 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1df.10bd465a (17228) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:14:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1df.10bd465a.2cab3e2b@aol.com> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:14:35 EDT Subject: Re: HB ! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/30/2003 11:11:08 AM, Prbarfoo@SYR.EDU writes: >Happy Birthday to clo. Many happy returns of this day from Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 17:10:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UMAa21024690 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:10:36 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 51CBF1E60145; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:25:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 193FD1E6013A for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:25:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E39F0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:07:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12702490 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:07:51 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8UK7mD04403 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:07:49 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id B34542B583; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:07:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F0A42B572 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:07:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:07:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Stupid joke In-Reply-To: <3F799D16.21037.5731EA2@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, Tony Harminc wrote: > And what's the plural of "un petit beurre"? > That was hard. But I got it. I wonder if 'un' is more like ae in Canadian French than other French (including American French) Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 17:10:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UMAb21024711 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:10:37 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 931CA1E6015D; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:25:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6301A1E60142 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:25:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E3B37@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:42:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12705833 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:42:49 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8UKgnD11601 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:42:49 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8UKgm8b006886 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:42:48 -0400 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8UKgmfC006200 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:42:48 -0400 Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:44:48 -0400 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: HB ! Message-ID: <1643871906.1064940288@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Happy Birthday to clo. > > > BrP Another September baby! Many Happy Returns! And belatedly to Neal! Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 17:10:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UMAb21024715 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:10:37 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 93AF51E6015E; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:25:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 600B11E6014F for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:25:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E3B34@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:42:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12705806 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:42:36 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8UKgUD11574 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:42:31 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h8UKgSAR012009 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:42:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000b01c38794$5f40d5e0$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: Stupid joke Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:49:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Borkin" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 3:21 PM Subject: Re: Stupid joke > On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, Doris Markland wrote: > > > I am embarrassed to admit this but I > > didn't catch on. I kept thinking that > > "scroll" was a strange name and what > > did it have to do with slippers. > > It's the Birthday song. Sort of. Saying p'tit or 'tit helps. > > Ann What I meant was . . that I didn't scroll down so I didn't see the name, just the word scroll. (until a later post) - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 17:10:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UMAb21024716 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:10:37 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 96CDE1E60142; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:25:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 640701E60151 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:25:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E3BC1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:57:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12707086 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:57:49 -0400 Received: from fe2.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8UKvnD14053 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:57:49 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.199] (HELO bc.edu) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.1) with ESMTP id 31553841 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:57:27 -0400 Message-ID: <3F79EE35.8040003@bc.edu> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:57:25 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CA References: <20030924013323.82313.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> <000601c38794$3ec7d8e0$facadece@0018079268> In-Reply-To: <000601c38794$3ec7d8e0$facadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Now I know that I am having a difficult day. My first interpretation of Doris' comment was that she was referring to Bethany's horse :-( Rita L. Doris Markland wrote: >>>Am I mutant for finding Arnold S. highly >>>unattractive? I'm talking >>>about his physical appearance now, not his politics. >>> >>> >>I find him singularly unattractive. >> >> > > >But in that respect, I find he and Maria >almost a perfect pair. They were meant >for each other. > > - D. M. > > -- Rita Leonard Information Technology Systems Services O'Neill Library 544 Phone: 617-552-3403 Email: rita.leonard@bc.edu "Whether you believe you can do a thing or not, you are right." Henry Ford From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 17:10:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UMAd21024729 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:10:39 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0CD8B1E600C3; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:25:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D06C11E6010A for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:25:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E3882@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:28:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12699243 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:28:47 -0400 Received: from maple.vaxer.net (root@maple.vaxer.net [66.199.186.132]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8UJSlD29320 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:28:47 -0400 Received: from maple.vaxer.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maple.vaxer.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h8UJRpTX000051 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:28:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (sylvar@localhost) by maple.vaxer.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id h8UJRpuc026734 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:27:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: maple.vaxer.net: sylvar owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:27:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Ben Ostrowsky To: The usual gang of meebers Subject: Religion and Housework Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I think it was a meeber who told me that instead of paying $25+/hr for Merry Maids, I should call some church or other and ask if any members wanted a bit of cleaning work. Adventists? Mormons? Witnesses? I ask because I just had a minor tiff with the missus-to-be over my desire to spend an hour or two (or even, God willing, an entire evening) cleaning my home. I was late to work because I was waiting for the clothes dryer, and I can't just keep stacking dirty dishes and sprinkling baking soda on the tiles where the cats keep peeing. And I don't want to take vacation time away from our honeymoon reserve to do this stuff, either. But I might be able to afford to pay someone to get the place back up to a standard which, if I had a toddler, would not result in a visit from a caseworker. If it's not $25/hr, that is. So -- anyone remember this conversation, or which church was mentioned? Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 17:10:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UMAb21024709 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:10:37 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A0E301E6014F; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:25:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E1811E60153 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:25:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E3C8F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:06:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12708721 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:06:56 -0400 Received: from tharminc.blockade.com ([216.18.57.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8UL6tD15744 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:06:55 -0400 Received: from Spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31) ID MO000006; 30 Sep 03 17:06:40 -0400 Received: from spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31); 30 Sep 03 17:06:20 -0400 Received: from tharminc2 (127.0.0.1) by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31) with ESMTP ID MG000005; 30 Sep 03 17:06:20 -0400 From: "Tony Harminc" To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:06:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Stupid joke Message-ID: <3F79B80B.18388.5DC6E5A@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: References: <3F799D16.21037.5731EA2@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, September 30, 2003 at 13:07, Ann Borkin wrote: > > And what's the plural of "un petit beurre"? > > > That was hard. But I got it. > > I wonder if 'un' is more like ae in Canadian French than other French > (including American French) I haven't noticed it, but then of course there are many Canadian French accents out there. The sort of educated French one hears on the radio doesn't sound any different from Parisian French to me, but my ears are not tuned to this sort of thing. The backwoods accents from both countries can be incredible. Btw, the joke was told to me by someone originally from the south of France. Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 17:10:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UMAa21024691 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:10:36 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 557C01E6013A; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:25:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BA2C1E6012F for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:25:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E39E7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:09:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12702573 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:09:35 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8UK9ZD04628 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:09:35 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h8UK9VAR009291 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:09:33 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000e01c3878f$c58051a0$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3F799D16.21037.5731EA2@localhost> Subject: Re: Re: Stupid joke Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:16:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > On Tuesday, September 30, 2003 at 8:24, Ann Borkin wrote: > > > makes me laugh though: > > > > What do you call a Frenchman wearing slippers? > > scroll I am embarrassed to admit this but I didn't catch on. I kept thinking that "scroll" was a strange name and what did it have to do with slippers. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 17:10:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UMAc21024724 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:10:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 095B71E60133; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:25:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD9E31E600C3 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:25:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E377E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:12:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12697105 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:12:04 -0400 Received: from tharminc.blockade.com ([216.18.57.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8UJC3h24921 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:12:03 -0400 Received: from Spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31) ID MO000004; 30 Sep 03 15:11:48 -0400 Received: from spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31); 30 Sep 03 15:11:23 -0400 Received: from tharminc2 (127.0.0.1) by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31) with ESMTP ID MG000003; 30 Sep 03 15:11:18 -0400 From: "Tony Harminc" To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:11:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Stupid joke Message-ID: <3F799D16.21037.5731EA2@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, September 30, 2003 at 8:24, Ann Borkin wrote: > makes me laugh though: > > What do you call a Frenchman wearing slippers? And what's the plural of "un petit beurre"? > > > scroll > > > > > > > down > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Philippe Philoppe It is "des tuyaux", of course, from the well known song: Un petit beurre, des tuyaux. Un petit beurre, des tuyaux. Un petit beurre, des dirent , Un petit beurre, des tuyaux. Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 17:10:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UMAa21024698 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:10:36 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5F0F71E6013C; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:25:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FBA11E60142 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:25:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E3B4A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:41:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12705716 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:41:37 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8UKfaD11352 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:41:36 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h8UKfXAR010173 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:41:35 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000601c38794$3ec7d8e0$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20030924013323.82313.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: CA Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:48:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Am I mutant for finding Arnold S. highly > > unattractive? I'm talking > > about his physical appearance now, not his politics. > > > I find him singularly unattractive. But in that respect, I find he and Maria almost a perfect pair. They were meant for each other. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 17:10:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UMAa21024702 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:10:36 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D30701E60153; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:25:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A333B1E60151 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:25:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E3CD9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:19:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12709399 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:19:25 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8ULJPD17257 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:19:25 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h8ULJMAR021474 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:19:23 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000f01c38799$86aaea80$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20030924013323.82313.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> <000601c38794$3ec7d8e0$facadece@0018079268> <3F79EE35.8040003@bc.edu> Subject: Re: Re: CA Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:26:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Well, there's something to be said for that too, but I don't want to offend Bethany. - D. M. > Now I know that I am having a difficult day. My first interpretation of > Doris' comment was that she was referring to Bethany's horse :-( > > Rita L. > > Doris Markland wrote: > > >>>Am I mutant for finding Arnold S. highly > >>>unattractive? I'm talking > >>>about his physical appearance now, not his politics. > >>> > >>> > >>I find him singularly unattractive. > >> > >> > > > > > >But in that respect, I find he and Maria > >almost a perfect pair. They were meant > >for each other. > > > > - D. M. > > > > > > -- > > Rita Leonard > Information Technology Systems Services > O'Neill Library 544 > Phone: 617-552-3403 > Email: rita.leonard@bc.edu > > "Whether you believe you can do a thing > or not, you are right." Henry Ford > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 17:26:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UMQ721025013 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:26:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1805A1E600C3; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:24:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF7AE1E60084 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:24:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E3E72@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:20:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12713155 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:20:34 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8UMKYU24912 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:20:34 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.131.254]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030930222028.PZNL1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:20:28 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7A01AC.5B78C5A5@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:20:28 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Religion and Housework References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > So -- anyone remember this conversation, or which church was mentioned? I have no memory of the conversation. But I'm always happy to see you unlurk. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 17:36:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UMaj21025130 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:36:45 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 245481E600D8; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:35:15 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA0641E600C3 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:35:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E3ED5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:31:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12714007 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:31:13 -0400 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8UMVCU26451 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:31:12 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.16a.247224d1 (4380) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:31:00 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <16a.247224d1.2cab5e23@aol.com> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:30:59 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] HB ! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hippo birdies two ewes, Clo. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 18:03:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UN3S21025480 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:03:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 269C21E601CA; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 09:02:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E77AC1E601C6 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 09:02:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DFDFE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 9:58:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12575376 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 09:58:44 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8TDwiE01999 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 09:58:44 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h8TDwgjI003674 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 08:58:43 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001901c38692$c1e58ea0$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3F780E60.EE21954B@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Why? Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 09:05:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I realize that Andy Rooney's sketches of the Democratic presidential > candidates are in his usual humorous tone, yet they are also > in the sense of giving fairly accurate info. So why does he, like > various other media voices, say this? > > "Howard Dean, the former governor of Vermont, is the most liberal > candidate...." > > Why do people think HD is so liberal? He's not. And certainly he is > not "the most liberal" of that group. > > from: > http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/09/26/60minutes/rooney/main575348.shtml > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I have more than once heard him referred to as a second McGovern. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 18:03:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UN3S21025487 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:03:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 29D841E601EC; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:08:35 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC75A1E601EA for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:08:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E0100@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:04:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12582620 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:04:34 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8TF4XE16642 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:04:33 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:04:30 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:04:26 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Report Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h8UN3S21025487 a tragedy for sure - but I have to ask, among all the tagedies reported in the news every day, why this one is worthy of posting ? It isn't a criticism but a real question. Is there a connection that I am missing ? BrP >>> lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM 09/29/03 09:52AM >>> State Farm Insurance Agent Bill Hill, aged 69, shot his wife Teresa, 43, with .410 shotgun, then shot himself. A friend found Mrs. Hill in the driveway of their home on up-scale Forest Glen Road. Mr. Hill's body was found in the garage. Mr. Hill was pronounced dead at the scene. Mrs. Hill was transported by LifeSaver helicopter to UAB Hospitals in Birmingham, where she died Sunday. No previous reports of any type of incidents involving these subjects or this address, except for a complaint by Mr. Hill citing a business-related harassment case. Mr. Hill had been an insurance agent in the Sylacauga area for four decades. Talladega County's District Attorney's Office is assisting Sylacauga Police Department Detectives in the investigation. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 18:03:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UN3S21025491 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:03:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2FACD1E601FF; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:34:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D430A1E60204 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:34:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E0268@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:33:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12585907 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:33:07 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8TFX7E22531 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:33:07 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:33:08 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:32:49 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Report Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h8UN3S21025491 ah, thank you This is what I get for having too much incoming mail and not enough time to read it all. BrP >>> lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM 09/29/03 11:10AM >>> --- Paul Barfoot wrote: > a tragedy for sure - but I have to ask, among all > the tagedies reported in the news every day, why > this one is worthy of posting ? It isn't a > criticism but a real question. Is there a > connection that I am missing ? That's a perfectly logical question. I had written about what I thought was a double homicide over the weekend. Natalie expressed the hope that it did not involve a family of which she knows. I told her I'd report. I suppose I should have back-channeled it to her. That's it. there isn't any more. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 18:03:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UN3S21025490 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:03:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2C35D1E60208; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:34:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D242F1E601FF for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:34:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E01D3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:18:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12584247 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:18:27 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8TFIRE19718 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:18:27 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:18:29 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:18:22 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Althea Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h8UN3S21025490 On the 6:00 local news last night the newsreader chick (this is not a generic word for female but a very specific type of female) referred to Gibson as "...the first african-american woman to break the color barrier in professional tennis." BrP >>> 14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET 09/29/03 10:20AM >>> > Also, Althea Gibson. I'm an AG2. She used to partake of libations quite heavily at my husband's late childhood home. This was the beautiful house which backed up to the West Side Tennis Club in Forest Hills. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 18:03:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UN3V21025527 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:03:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 21EF41E60351; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:11:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE1D61E6034E for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:11:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E1502@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:07:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12629245 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:07:10 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8TN7Ap05334 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:07:10 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8TN7Au07400 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:07:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id EADC016B4; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:07:09 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:07:09 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Subways Message-ID: <20030929230709.GB632@pobox.com> References: <3F78AE59.F8871851@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20030929153751.03b99848@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030929153751.03b99848@mail.istori.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-29 | Peter Kaminski writes: > Natalie Maynor writes, > > >Yes, I'm sure it is. I haven't it, but my brain just > >clicked in and said of course it's the 1 and 2. > > Looks like it: > > > Google's "Feeling Lucky" finally worked for me; I got that address by > typing "nyc subway" into the address bar in Mozilla Firebird and hitting > return. > > I've switched, BTW, from IE to Firebird, and I like it. Also, programming things for Firebird seems easy and quickly learnable--it's one of those 100 things I am supposed to be doing in my free time ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 18:03:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UN3U21025522 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:03:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2B8571E60339; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:48:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5CB51E6033C for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:48:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E1496@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:43:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12627742 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:43:59 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8TMhxp02566 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:43:59 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.23) id 1A46lH-0007Hg-Ty for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:45:00 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030929153751.03b99848@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:46:07 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Subways In-Reply-To: <3F78AF61.87123050@maynor.net> References: <3F78AE59.F8871851@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, >Yes, I'm sure it is. I haven't it, but my brain just >clicked in and said of course it's the 1 and 2. Looks like it: Google's "Feeling Lucky" finally worked for me; I got that address by typing "nyc subway" into the address bar in Mozilla Firebird and hitting return. I've switched, BTW, from IE to Firebird, and I like it. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 18:33:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UNXu21026283 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:33:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1EAA41E6012F; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:07:03 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E03691E60128 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:07:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E3F72@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:03:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12715819 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:03:00 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8UN2hU30309 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:02:43 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.131.254]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030930230238.RKOY1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:02:38 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7A0B8D.EC7334BF@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:02:37 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Quiet Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Why is everybody so quiet? I may just watch tv tonight instead of hanging around on my computer. I should open some of the huge pile of magazines that are haunting me. I don't want to start a good book because things are too busy now. I do have a couple of ho-hummers that I read a few more pages of from time to time, but I don't want to start something good. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 18:33:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UNXu21026292 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:33:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D06EB1E60133; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:09:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3CA11E600E7 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:09:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E3F8F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:05:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12716101 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:05:47 -0400 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8UN5lU30948 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:05:47 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.25.3eb2fc44 (24895) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:05:26 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <25.3eb2fc44.2cab6636@aol.com> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:05:26 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Quiet To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/30/2003 6:03:21 PM Central Daylight Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << Why is everybody so quiet? >> working all day, and, when i come home, i take daisy outside. i can't wait until i get some vacation time; i can study, go through some movies, and sleep. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 18:33:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UNXu21026284 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:33:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5E0F51E6013C; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:10:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F9CA1E600E7 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:10:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001862D3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:06:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12716262 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:06:56 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8UN6tU31373 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:06:56 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.131.254]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030930230650.RODJ1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:06:50 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7A0C8A.96882994@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:06:50 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Quiet References: <3F7A0B8D.EC7334BF@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Why is everybody so quiet? I may just watch tv tonight instead of Indeed I will. I see that "Cookie's Fortune" is on. I've seen it before, but it's the kind of movie I'm in the mood to see again tonight. I remember that Judith and Paul recommended it to me several years ago. I'd never heard of it, but they said that Cookie is wearing a backwards MSU sweatshirt in one scene. And indeed she is. It's a pretty good movie. Not great. Just pretty good. And that is precisely what I'm in the mood for. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 18:39:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8UNdT21026382 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:39:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A84471E6012F; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:37:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7696C1E600F6 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:37:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E404B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:33:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12717944 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:33:56 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8UNXuU03019 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:33:56 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.131.254]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030930233350.KUSS1810.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:33:50 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7A12DF.ABCE84DC@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:33:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Well, Merde Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Once again the DirecTV Guide is wrong. "Cookie's Fortune" was nowhere to be found on the menu. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 19:26:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h910Q221027020 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:26:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F0F951E603C7; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:40:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B92801E603C4 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:40:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E181E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:36:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12637104 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:36:05 -0400 Received: from web20511.mail.yahoo.com (web20511.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.150]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8U1a5p22370 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:36:05 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20511.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:36:04 PDT Message-ID: <20030930013604.94783.qmail@web20511.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:36:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: I matched Julia Roberts To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20030929233036.GF632@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Tushar Samant wrote: > 02003-09-29 | Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> > writes: > > I matched Kathy Bates! > > > > (And I'm okay with that.) > > Well I matched Julia Roberts. We are SO compatible! Wonder why they don't have a group of males celebs for the bemusement of masculine quiz-takers? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 19:26:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h910Q221027023 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:26:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F21191E6052C; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 05:07:10 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C45BA1E60530 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 05:07:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E24D7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 6:03:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12665195 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 06:03:09 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8UA39p05492 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 06:03:09 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.164.149]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030930100303.DDIH1781.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 06:03:03 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7954D8.9730C805@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 05:03:04 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pulling Out of Iraq References: <20030930025050.GB18834@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > in a while. What should we call the new area of opportunity? > > _________ Valley > > Please list your suggestions below: > > 1. Death > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 19:26:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h910QS21027134 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:26:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E94151E603E6; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:13:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADDAA1E600C6 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:13:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E18D6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:09:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12638885 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:09:07 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8U297p25774 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:09:07 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.172.180]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030930020902.UIUF1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:09:02 -0400 Message-ID: <3F78E5BE.A5CB2C5@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:09:02 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pulling Out of Iraq References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030929170925.0539e038@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20030929184550.03f5e240@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > To my mind, a large part of the messy situation in Iraq is the legacy of > the regime of Saddam + UN sanctions, and even a good chunk of the > destruction wrought by the war can be chalked up to ejecting a skunk which > the UN disapproved of (even if it didn't approve the war). The skunk the US supported a while back when it was to do so? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 19:26:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h910QS21027138 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:26:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E73961E603D3; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:54:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AECD81E603C9 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:54:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E1861@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:50:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12637766 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:50:45 -0400 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8U1ojp23608 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:50:45 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:50:44 PDT Message-ID: <20030930015044.50701.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:50:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Pulling Out of Iraq To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F78C52A.29550E85@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > "Now the neoconservatives who got us into a war on > false pretenses are > saying we 'can't afford to lose the peace.' This > same ploy was used to > prolong America's stay in Vietnam. We won't lose the > peace if we hand > Iraq over to the Iraqis and say goodbye. We will if > we prolong our > stay." > > I agree with his point about the condescension in > saying that the Iraqis > aren't capable of governing themselves. And this > part may well be true: > > "Bush wants to stay in Iraq for purely economic > reasons. He wants to > make sure it's we, not the Iraqis, who decide who > gets the business of a > rebuilding a country. He doesn't want a democratic > government in Iraq. > He wants a puppet government that will follow his > orders." > > But there's something about just bombing the hell > out of a country for > no clear reason and then saying, "Ok, bye now," that > seems wrong. So > what *should* the US do now? IMO, to pull out cold now would be calamitous. This is the reason I believe the cooperation of other nations is needed. The nations that did not go along with this war were not motivated purely by moral constraints or respect for the sovereignty of nations. They have as many ulterior motivations as those who joined in the war. These are OLD countries that have learned from their deep histories how to play other nations one against the other. We may have been very wrong in the methods and degrees of force we have employed in this mess, as well as wrong in the motives. I cannot, however, help but think that the German, Russians, and especially the French now want to hold us hostage until they have arranged matters to suit themselves. THAT makes me mad. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 19:26:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h910QT21027146 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:26:30 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E25B11E60348; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:59:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F7601E60346 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:59:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E14CE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:55:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12628387 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:55:15 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8TMtFp03615 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:55:15 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.172.180]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030929225510.WNCJ1781.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:55:10 -0400 Message-ID: <3F78B84E.AE644FD0@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:55:10 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Subways References: <3F78AE59.F8871851@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20030929153751.03b99848@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > >Yes, I'm sure it is. I haven't it, but my brain just > >clicked in and said of course it's the 1 and 2. > > Looks like it: > Aha! I kept thinking that there must have been some reason for 9 to feel so firmly implanted in my brain. It's 1 and 9!! It's only in the south that 2 joins them. The 1 and 9 are the ones that go all the way. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 19:26:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h910QS21027135 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:26:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E40431E603E5; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:10:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABBC71E600C6 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:10:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E18C6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:06:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12638735 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:06:20 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8U26Kp25535 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:06:20 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.172.180]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030930020615.UHVZ1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:06:15 -0400 Message-ID: <3F78E517.333809A4@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:06:15 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pulling Out of Iraq References: <20030930015044.50701.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > IMO, to pull out cold now would be calamitous. This That is my thought also, which is why I was questioning that part of what Reese said. > is the reason I believe the cooperation of other > nations is needed. The nations that did not go along > with this war were not motivated purely by moral > constraints or respect for the sovereignty of nations. > They have as many ulterior motivations as those who > joined in the war. These are OLD countries that have > learned from their deep histories how to play other > nations one against the other. And of course there is international going on. It would be quite naive to think otherwise. But that doesn't change the fact that Dubya's preemptive striking and you're-with-us-or-against-us mentality is not stupid and frightening beyond words. > We may have been very wrong in the methods and degrees > of force we have employed in this mess, as well as > wrong in the motives. I cannot, however, help but > think that the German, Russians, and especially the > French now want to hold us hostage until they have > arranged matters to suit themselves. THAT makes me > mad. It doesn't make me mad at all. It embarrasses me that the rest of the world is laughing at us and wants us to have our comeupance. But I can understand it. It is deserved, imho. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 19:27:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h910R021027332 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:27:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 079731E60295; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:31:32 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE26C1E60299 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:31:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E0C63@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:27:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12608708 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:27:30 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8TJRUp00891 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:27:30 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.172.180]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030929192724.STXW1781.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:27:24 -0400 Message-ID: <3F78879D.F0A7E3FE@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:27:25 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Althea References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: > "...the first african-american woman to break the color barrier in professional tennis." I did mention, didn't I, the newspaper headline here that said "Mother Teresa Beautified"? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 19:27:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h910R221027348 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:27:03 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0D52A1E601C8; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 08:56:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D44011E601C6 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 08:56:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009DFDA1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 9:52:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12574545 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 09:52:06 -0400 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8TDq6E00695 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 09:52:06 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 06:52:04 PDT Message-ID: <20030929135204.51123.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 06:52:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Report To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU State Farm Insurance Agent Bill Hill, aged 69, shot his wife Teresa, 43, with .410 shotgun, then shot himself. A friend found Mrs. Hill in the driveway of their home on up-scale Forest Glen Road. Mr. Hill's body was found in the garage. Mr. Hill was pronounced dead at the scene. Mrs. Hill was transported by LifeSaver helicopter to UAB Hospitals in Birmingham, where she died Sunday. No previous reports of any type of incidents involving these subjects or this address, except for a complaint by Mr. Hill citing a business-related harassment case. Mr. Hill had been an insurance agent in the Sylacauga area for four decades. Talladega County's District Attorney's Office is assisting Sylacauga Police Department Detectives in the investigation. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 19:27:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h910R421027356 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:27:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0C6211E602AB; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:54:43 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF3171E602AA for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:54:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E0D5C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:50:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12610875 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:50:41 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8TJoap05824 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:50:36 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.172.180]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030929195031.REDB1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:50:31 -0400 Message-ID: <3F788D03.F2F22172@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:50:27 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Althea References: <20030929194353.15235.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > > I did mention, didn't I, the newspaper headline here > > that said "Mother > > Teresa Beautified"? > > Did they print a retraction? Because it didn't happen. I don't think so. Somebody had stuck that headline up in the office last week with a picture of Mother Teresa under it and then the question "Will Eudora Welty be next?" with a picture of EW under it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 19:31:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h910Vr21027534 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:31:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 38FA11E6012B; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:30:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 077981E600BC for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:30:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E4136@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:26:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12720240 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:26:20 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h910QJU08550 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:26:19 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.131.254]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031001002614.LOKE1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:26:14 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7A1F26.FBFB73C7@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:26:14 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: CH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I can't remember where I've sat in CH before, but I know it was cheap and high up. I'm looking at this diagram and trying to figure out what to do on Dec. 28. Talk about planning in advance! (My past experiences have been walking into CH the day before at the earliest and talking to the jolly ticket-sellers.) Anyway, I'm leaning toward that middle category -- the $36 category. Which would be better: Parquet or Second Tier Center? http://tinyurl.com/p930 -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 19:42:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h910gf21027606 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:42:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0422D1E6012B; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:41:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0E7E1E600BC for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:41:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E4171@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:37:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12720840 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:37:08 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h910b8U09693 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:37:08 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h910b7u22737 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:37:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id C758516B4; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:37:07 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:37:07 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Polka Night Message-ID: <20031001003707.GA24641@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU My final conversion into "Steve Urkle" happened a week ago, when I stepped into the "Zakopane Lounge" to meet with a few friends on Polka Night. Hoo! I have no idea what I was doing at a Polka shindig... be that as it may... It is after all a "historic" bar. One of my good friends, Jeannie--a native of (the original) Zakopane, and also the cleaning lady at our previous offices--visited here on Polka Night about 30 years ago, where among other things she met her husband. The street is now crowded with extremely hip restaurants and boutique-things full of meaningless objects, while the old lounge keeps doing business. On this special night, 70-year-old "Lil' Wally" made an appearance--the person who everybody knows was the supreme reigning king of the Polka in Chicago. Admittedly, I didn't know it until that day, but I was the last person to know. Overall a satisfying and moving event, it was marked--and marred--by three different pieces of stupidity which I now relate. First: most of the early part of the event was clobbered by some group known as the Polkaholics. They featured the well-known and tiresome attitude considered perenially funny by many idiots--i.e. the clear suggestion that everything they are doing is crap, and that's what is "cool" about it. Perhaps of great appeal to retards, it succeeds very well in insulting the music, as well as the old Polish people who came there after years, some with great difficulty. This was finally neutralized by the real, but aging, band--indeed, despite the outward monotony and bland texture of the "polka", it is not like that at all. A few minutes and you could hear hints of the sensibility that made people come out and dance, whenever that was ... Around then, several old couples came to shake "Lil' Wally"'s hand. You could guess they just used to be anonymous faces then. But they stayed on in the city, and things turned out such that they were talking to the celebrity now, face to face. This little episode was lorded over by a couple of perky art school females, all over the freakin place with their cams. Third: a young group with fairly below-average IQs, together covering every piece of the "hip" wardrobe authorized by the national clearing- house of jackasses. That night, they had scaled a new peak--that of going to a rummy old bar full of "working class" people! *Wacky*! And yet, they were at a total loss for a drink of choice. And with uncanny timing, the want was supplied by a couple of really cool, smart people handing out "Old Style" paraphernalia. No, that doesn't even begin to describe it. Old Style is a crap beer, popular in Chicago since the end of prohibition, mainly because of its low price. But the spirit of the time is such that they aspire to sell to people completely unlike broke-ass construction workers ... Like "Pabst Blue Ribbon"--another execrable beer--Old Style is hoping to be "retro" and "chic". It is completely possible to ignore all the morons involved in this unimportant phenomenon--unless they get in your way like this. The Old Style marketing schtick--extremely rudely superimposed on some old people's Polka night--consisted of two gross equations: Old = traditionally "Chicago" (whatever that means) Low-quality = retro And to add to it, they stuck Cubs insignia all over it. This led to every single shitass with dyed hair, facial hair, thrift store clothes, etc to grab on to a bottle of Old Style. After a couple each, they fell silent, and the Polka stuff was audible again. I hope they writhed with alcohol poisoning for a couple of days. Assholes. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 19:54:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h910sD21027722 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:54:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 36F811E60145; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:52:42 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08D531E6012B for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:52:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00186492@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:48:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12721219 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:48:39 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h910mdU10658 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:48:39 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.131.254]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031001004834.EFG1821.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:48:34 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7A2462.BD1A937D@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:48:34 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Polka Night References: <20031001003707.GA24641@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Well described. And with the kinds of details that have made me wonder in the past how any Wordsler could not pick up on your sensitivity. I have some great polka memories, btw -- like when Chuck and I were reeling round and round and round and round doing the polka at his engineering firm's xmas party in Melbourne, FL, and suddenly found ourselves down in the middle of the dance floor in a sort of knot. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 19:57:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h910vg21027757 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:57:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7901C1E60145; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:56:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4966D1E6012B for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:56:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00186493@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:52:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12721309 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:52:09 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h910q8U10986 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:52:09 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h910q8u02116 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:52:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 5438D16B4; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:52:08 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:52:08 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Polka Night Message-ID: <20031001005208.GA315@pobox.com> References: <20031001003707.GA24641@pobox.com> <3F7A2462.BD1A937D@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F7A2462.BD1A937D@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-30 | Natalie Maynor writes: > Well described. And with the kinds of details that have made me wonder > in the past how any Wordsler could not pick up on your sensitivity. ^^^^^^^^^^^ It's OK, you can call it alcoholism ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 20:01:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9111D21027800 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:01:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0E1FB1E60153; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:59:42 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D10001E60145 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:59:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E41AF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:55:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12721372 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:55:39 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h910tQU11163 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:55:26 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.131.254]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031001005517.HES1821.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:55:17 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7A25F5.33CE5962@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:55:17 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Polka Night References: <20031001003707.GA24641@pobox.com> <3F7A2462.BD1A937D@maynor.net> <20031001005208.GA315@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > > in the past how any Wordsler could not pick up on your sensitivity. > ^^^^^^^^^^^ > It's OK, you can call it alcoholism ... En vino veritas... -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 20:07:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9117M21027900 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:07:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 521B21E6015E; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:05:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 221EE1E6015D for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:05:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E41DF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:01:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12722013 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:01:49 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9111mU12133 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:01:48 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h9111mu08258 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:01:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 1D57016B4; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:01:48 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:01:48 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Polka Night Message-ID: <20031001010148.GB315@pobox.com> References: <20031001003707.GA24641@pobox.com> <3F7A2462.BD1A937D@maynor.net> <20031001005208.GA315@pobox.com> <3F7A25F5.33CE5962@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F7A25F5.33CE5962@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-30 | Natalie Maynor writes: > Tushar Samant wrote: > > > in the past how any Wordsler could not pick up on your sensitivity. > > ^^^^^^^^^^^ > > It's OK, you can call it alcoholism ... > > En vino veritas... I learned it as "in vitro". Beer comes in the mouth, And love comes in at the eye, That's is all we shall know for truth Before we grow old and die. I hit the glass to my mouth, I look at you and I sigh. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 20:27:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h911RA21028133 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:27:10 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 171791E6015D; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:25:39 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D59121E60153 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:25:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E425C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:21:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12723280 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:21:36 -0400 Received: from web20506.mail.yahoo.com (web20506.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h911LaU14227 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:21:36 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:21:35 PDT Message-ID: <20031001012135.95211.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:21:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Religion and Housework To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F7A01AC.5B78C5A5@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > So -- anyone remember this conversation, or which > church was mentioned? > > I have no memory of the conversation. But I'm > always happy to see you > unlurk. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Dear Ben: It doesn't matter which faith she subscribes to, under the circumstances you describe. It should be just a matter of half an hour before rampant atheism sets in. But good luck! Good help is not hard to find these days. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 20:39:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h911d921028271 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:39:09 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 23B941E60168; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:37:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1AFD1E60164 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:37:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E428D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:33:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12723665 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:33:35 -0400 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h911XZU15093 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:33:35 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:33:34 PDT Message-ID: <20031001013334.18006.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:33:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Polka Night To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031001003707.GA24641@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Tushar Samant wrote: > My final conversion into "Steve Urkle" happened a > week ago, when I stepped > into the "Zakopane Lounge" to meet with a few > friends on Polka Night. Hoo! > I have no idea what I was doing at a Polka > shindig... be that as it may... > It is after all a "historic" bar. One of my good > friends, Jeannie--a native > of (the original) Zakopane, and also the cleaning > lady at our previous > offices--visited here on Polka Night about 30 years > ago, where among other > things she met her husband. The street is now > crowded with extremely hip > restaurants and boutique-things full of meaningless > objects, while the > old lounge keeps doing business. > > On this special night, 70-year-old "Lil' Wally" made > an appearance--the > person who everybody knows was the supreme reigning > king of the Polka in > Chicago. Admittedly, I didn't know it until that > day, but I was the last > person to know. > > Overall a satisfying and moving event, it was > marked--and marred--by > three different pieces of stupidity which I now > relate. > > First: most of the early part of the event was > clobbered by some group > known as the Polkaholics. They featured the > well-known and tiresome > attitude considered perenially funny by many > idiots--i.e. the clear > suggestion that everything they are doing is crap, > and that's what > is "cool" about it. Perhaps of great appeal to > retards, it succeeds > very well in insulting the music, as well as the old > Polish people > who came there after years, some with great > difficulty. > > This was finally neutralized by the real, but aging, > band--indeed, > despite the outward monotony and bland texture of > the "polka", it > is not like that at all. A few minutes and you could > hear hints of > the sensibility that made people come out and dance, > whenever that > was ... > > Around then, several old couples came to shake "Lil' > Wally"'s hand. > You could guess they just used to be anonymous faces > then. But they > stayed on in the city, and things turned out such > that they were > talking to the celebrity now, face to face. > > This little episode was lorded over by a couple of > perky art school > females, all over the freakin place with their cams. > > Third: a young group with fairly below-average IQs, > together covering > every piece of the "hip" wardrobe authorized by the > national clearing- > house of jackasses. That night, they had scaled a > new peak--that of > going to a rummy old bar full of "working class" > people! *Wacky*! > > And yet, they were at a total loss for a drink of > choice. And with > uncanny timing, the want was supplied by a couple of > really cool, > smart people handing out "Old Style" paraphernalia. > > No, that doesn't even begin to describe it. Old > Style is a crap beer, > popular in Chicago since the end of prohibition, > mainly because of its > low price. But the spirit of the time is such that > they aspire to sell > to people completely unlike broke-ass construction > workers ... Like > "Pabst Blue Ribbon"--another execrable beer--Old > Style is hoping to > be "retro" and "chic". > > It is completely possible to ignore all the morons > involved in this > unimportant phenomenon--unless they get in your way > like this. The > Old Style marketing schtick--extremely rudely > superimposed on some > old people's Polka night--consisted of two gross > equations: > > Old = traditionally "Chicago" (whatever that means) > Low-quality = retro > > And to add to it, they stuck Cubs insignia all over > it. > > This led to every single shitass with dyed hair, > facial hair, thrift > store clothes, etc to grab on to a bottle of Old > Style. After a couple > each, they fell silent, and the Polka stuff was > audible again. > > I hope they writhed with alcohol poisoning for a > couple of days. > > Assholes. We should all go with T.S. to Polka Night. It would be "cool". His character assessments herein are right-on, I'd be willing to bet. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 20:40:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h911eH21028275 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:40:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3F74C1E60168; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:38:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 113501E60164 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:38:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E4291@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:34:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12723693 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:34:44 -0400 Received: from web20501.mail.yahoo.com (web20501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.136]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h911YhU15162 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:34:43 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:34:43 PDT Message-ID: <20031001013443.19825.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:34:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Polka Night To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F7A2462.BD1A937D@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I have some great polka memories, btw -- like when > Chuck and I were > reeling round and round and round and round doing > the polka at his > engineering firm's xmas party in Melbourne, FL, and > suddenly found > ourselves down in the middle of the dance floor in a > sort of knot. Well, that was your story, anyway. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 20:42:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h911gv21028282 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:42:57 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4F7E01E60168; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:41:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD881E60164 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:41:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018658D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:37:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12723767 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:36:37 -0400 Received: from web20501.mail.yahoo.com (web20501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.136]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h911aaU15315 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:36:36 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:36:36 PDT Message-ID: <20031001013636.20339.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:36:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Polka Night To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031001010148.GB315@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I learned it as "in vitro". > > Beer comes in the mouth, > And love comes in at the eye, > That's is all we shall know for truth > Before we grow old and die. > I hit the glass to my mouth, > I look at you and I sigh. Give up that wretched "Old Style". __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 20:43:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h911hn21028287 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:43:49 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C20451E60168; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:42:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952661E60164 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:42:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E428D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:38:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12723792 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:38:15 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h911cFU15408 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:38:15 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.131.254]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031001013810.VQZH1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:38:10 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7A3002.79364CC5@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:38:10 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Polka Night References: <20031001013334.18006.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > We should all go with T.S. to Polka Night. It would > be "cool". His character assessments herein are > right-on, I'd be willing to bet. I like this idea. Really. It doesn't have to be an official July 4 fest -- it could be a spontaneous another-time fest. Does ChicagoFest still happen? I still have some paper beer cups I saved from ChicagoFest '80. That would be a nice time. But any time would be a nice time. I'm suddenly in the mood to party in Chicago. Who would like to meet in Chicago when? I'm getting all fired up about this idea. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 20:45:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h911jO21028321 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:45:24 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4602B1E60168; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:43:53 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 179A61E60164 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:43:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E42AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:39:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12723922 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:39:51 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h911doU15604 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:39:50 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.131.254]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031001013945.VRSW1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:39:45 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7A3061.C678FEC1@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:39:45 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Polka Night References: <20031001013443.19825.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > > I have some great polka memories, btw -- like when > > Chuck and I were > > reeling round and round and round and round doing > > the polka at his > > engineering firm's xmas party in Melbourne, FL, and > > suddenly found > > ourselves down in the middle of the dance floor in a > > sort of knot. > > Well, that was your story, anyway. Yes, it was for real. We swirled faster and faster and faster around and around and around and were suddenly in a tangled heap on the floor. Iirc, alcohol was involved. But I really do like to polka. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 20:49:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h911nS21028386 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:49:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E419D1E60292; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:25:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C7861E60291 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:25:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E0C4B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:21:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12608245 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:21:53 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8TJLrp32532 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:21:53 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.172.180]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030929192147.SQWF1781.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:21:47 -0400 Message-ID: <3F78864C.FF56D80@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:21:48 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Report References: <20030929135204.51123.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > No previous reports of any type of incidents involving > these subjects or this address, except for a complaint > by Mr. Hill citing a business-related harassment case. Strange goings-on. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 20:49:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h911nY21028435 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:49:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0E4C51E60433; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:26:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5DF61E60431 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:26:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E1C80@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 23:22:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12646556 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 23:22:42 -0400 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h8U3Mgp01844 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 23:22:42 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:22:41 PDT Message-ID: <20030930032241.98315.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:22:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Pulling Out of Iraq To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20030930025050.GB18834@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > companies that want to do business in Iraq, > including those seeking pieces > > of taxpayer-financed reconstruction projects. > > Oh, I expect it will trickle down. History has > proved that crony > capitalism is the only thing which works. Don't give > me leftist > crap like "other kinds of capitalism". Do you want > enterprises > with abundant reconstruction experience to do the > job, or Jose's > Tuckpointing, Chicago? Chin up. Consider being > supportive once > in a while. What should we call the new area of > opportunity? > > _________ Valley > > Please list your suggestions below: > > 1. Rudy > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 20:49:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h911na21028445 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:49:36 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 03B791E603BD; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:37:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA2B1E603C0 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:37:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E1813@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:33:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12637009 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:33:39 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8U1Xdp22091 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:33:39 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.172.180]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030930013333.TWFL1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:33:33 -0400 Message-ID: <3F78DD6E.48335C03@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:33:34 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Are These People Trustworthy? References: <20030930012741.92587.qmail@web20511.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > Oh good. Thank you for your kind reply. I know > > what the rooms are like > > at the Wellington, having stayed there before, and > > they're fine. Then > > again, maybe that have a shabby floor of shabby > > rooms for people making > > reservations through the cheap-rate place. > > Was there anything in there about the rooms being > arranged according to the Dewey decimal system? No, they're LC. I hope I'm in P. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 20:49:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h911ne21028478 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:49:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0EE501E60364; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:34:39 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC561E60361 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:34:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E1575@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:30:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12630447 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:30:37 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8TNUbp07737 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:30:37 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h8TNUau23125 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:30:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id C700716B4; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:30:36 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:30:36 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I matched Julia Roberts Message-ID: <20030929233036.GF632@pobox.com> References: <3005f1304f72.304f723005f1@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3005f1304f72.304f723005f1@optonline.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-29 | Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> writes: > I matched Kathy Bates! > > (And I'm okay with that.) Well I matched Julia Roberts. We are SO compatible! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 20:49:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h911ng21028491 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:49:43 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0E4661E602FD; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:34:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8BA11E602FA for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:34:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E1256@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:30:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12622268 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:30:11 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8TLUBp26139 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:30:11 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.172.180]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030929213006.QLMX1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:30:06 -0400 Message-ID: <3F78A45E.BBBF2CDF@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:30:06 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Are These People Trustworthy? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.new-york-hotels-discounts-reservations.com/ I hope they're trustworthy since I just used them. Their rate for the same hotel was significantly cheaper than the hotel's own rates. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 20:49:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h911nk21028529 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:49:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 053681E603E9; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:20:20 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD8621E600C6 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:20:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E191A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:16:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12639217 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:16:18 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f28.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8U2GIp26316 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:16:18 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:16:12 -0700 Received: from 64.24.186.144 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 02:16:11 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.24.186.144] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Hurricane Juan Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 02:16:11 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Sep 2003 02:16:12.0379 (UTC) FILETIME=[D1A552B0:01C386F8] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-28 | Bookrat writes: > >Natalie: > > > >>Neat! When is she going to make the official announcement about next > >>year's fest, btw? > > > >I made the Namibia announcement ages ago. Tushar's already written a > >number of snotty posts about it. > >A little bit of archive searching shows that you have *not* made any sort >of announcement, at least not on-list since July 1 or later. The closest >you've come to it was an ambiguous response to the statement "I don't know >what happened to Namibia," your response being as follows: "It's still >there. How many meebers would be interested in a trip to Namibia next >year?" That sounds more like a request for a show of hands than an >announcement. > >Of course, by hallowed Words-L tradition, suggestion is nine-tenths of the >decision-making process, and it would be only reasonable to suppose that >such wordslers as are inclined to flocculate will do so in or around >Windhoek on or around 4 July 2004. But (to be pedantic) that isn't the >same thing as an actual announcement. I made the announcement *way* before Acadiafest. IIRR 2003 and 2004 sites were announced at or around the same time. Serves me right for trying to be *proactive* for once. I should go back to putting off things until the last possible moment. -rashmi _________________________________________________________________ Add MSN 8 Internet Software to your existing Internet access and enjoy patented spam protection and more. Sign up now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/byoa From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 20:50:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h911nq21028586 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:49:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7890F1E60168; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:48:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B0521E6008E for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:48:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E42B3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:44:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12724092 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:44:19 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h911iHU16066 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:44:18 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.131.254]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031001014412.VTWX1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:44:12 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7A316D.1F3D47D7@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:44:13 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Polka Night References: <20031001013636.20339.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Give up that wretched "Old Style". What poem is swirling around in my head?? I think it's AmLit. And it involves "around and around and around." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 20:51:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h911pb21028767 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:51:37 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5E6481E60168; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:50:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EC6F1E6008E for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:50:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001865A6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:46:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12724174 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:46:04 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h911k3U16305 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:46:03 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h911k2HL004421 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:46:03 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h911k0jD004363; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:46:01 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20030930184641.00a5cba0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:47:16 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Polka Night In-Reply-To: <3F7A3002.79364CC5@maynor.net> References: <20031001013334.18006.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:38 PM 9/30/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Lynne Weber wrote: > > > We should all go with T.S. to Polka Night. It would > > be "cool". His character assessments herein are > > right-on, I'd be willing to bet. > >I like this idea. Really. It doesn't have to be an official July 4 >fest -- it could be a spontaneous another-time fest. Does ChicagoFest >still happen? I still have some paper beer cups I saved from >ChicagoFest '80. That would be a nice time. But any time would be a >nice time. I'm suddenly in the mood to party in Chicago. Who would >like to meet in Chicago when? I'm getting all fired up about this >idea. Okay! We could meet Karen there and horn in on her Tushar Time. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 20:52:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h911qE21028780 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:52:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 06EE71E60168; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:50:43 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA23F1E6008E for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:50:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E42BD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:46:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12724188 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:46:40 -0400 Received: from web20506.mail.yahoo.com (web20506.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h911keU16357 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:46:40 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:46:39 PDT Message-ID: <20031001014639.1290.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:46:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Polka Night To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F7A3002.79364CC5@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I like this idea. Really. It doesn't have to be an > official July 4 > fest -- it could be a spontaneous another-time fest. > Does ChicagoFest > still happen? I still have some paper beer cups I > saved from > ChicagoFest '80. That would be a nice time. But > any time would be a > nice time. I'm suddenly in the mood to party in > Chicago. Who would > like to meet in Chicago when? I'm getting all fired > up about this > idea. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I'd love to do it sometime. Just throw everything over, and take off. Evelyn has a wish-list, I think I'll start one, as well. 1. Polka Night with T.S. and Wordslers as yet unspecified. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 20:54:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h911sE21028810 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:54:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CD06C1E60170; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:52:42 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E5CB1E60168 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:52:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E42D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:48:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12724250 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:48:40 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h911meU16536 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:48:40 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.131.254]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031001014834.VWSS1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:48:34 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7A3270.C97353BE@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:48:32 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Polka Night References: <20031001013636.20339.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> <3F7A316D.1F3D47D7@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > What poem is swirling around in my head?? I think it's AmLit. And it > involves "around and around and around." And it's about Brueghel's painting. This is driving me crazy. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 20:56:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h911uO21028867 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:56:24 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 96A101E6016F; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:54:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68E251E60168 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:54:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E42EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:50:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12724361 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:50:50 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h911onU16781 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:50:49 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.131.254]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031001015044.VYMQ1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:50:44 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7A32F4.124DF8F0@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:50:44 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: poor daisy! References: <1c4.f92bccb.2cab8b48@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > > She's gotten too big to fit in her favorite spots! Reminds me of a St. Bernard some friends of mine had. He got used to sleeping under the coffee table when he was a puppy, leading to a strange configuration when he got bigger. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 20:57:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h911vp21028870 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:57:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C43311E60170; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:56:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96A341E6016F for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:56:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E42E6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:52:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12724450 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:52:17 -0400 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h911qGU16960 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:52:16 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:52:15 PDT Message-ID: <20031001015215.96825.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:52:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Polka Night To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20030930184641.00a5cba0@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Okay! We could meet Karen there and horn in on her > Tushar Time. When she decides to reappear, she will almost certainly claim all back Tushar-Time, with interest. This might be a very surprising get-together. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 21:00:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9120s21028917 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:00:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 79AA31E60171; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:59:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 487A51E60170 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:59:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E4304@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:55:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12724590 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:55:21 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h911tKU17275 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:55:20 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.131.254]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031001015515.WCOX1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:55:15 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7A3403.86367D90@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:55:15 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Polka Night References: <20031001014639.1290.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > I'd love to do it sometime. Just throw everything > over, and take off. Evelyn has a wish-list, I think > I'll start one, as well. > > 1. Polka Night with T.S. and Wordslers as yet > unspecified. I can't throw everything over. The timing has to be right. I could do it Thanksgiving week if there are any places left at Fbabies for that time, or I could do it shortly before or after the NY trip I just planned for xmas holidays. The next available possibility will be spring break. But I really do need to go to Paris sometime in the next year since a friend of mine is renting an apartment there for a year, starting Nov. 1, and wants guests to come often. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 21:01:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9121S21028921 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:01:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 034401E60171; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:59:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA6421E60170 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:59:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001865D2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:55:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12724615 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:55:54 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h911tsU17316 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:55:54 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.131.254]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031001015549.WDBU1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:55:49 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7A3425.A901297E@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:55:49 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Polka Night References: <20031001013334.18006.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20030930184641.00a5cba0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > Okay! We could meet Karen there and horn in on her Tushar Time. When? Let's get these plans rolling. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 21:03:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9123e21028956 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:03:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 98F2C1E60170; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:02:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 692AD1E6016F for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:02:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E42FF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:58:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12724706 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:58:06 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h911w6U17513 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:58:06 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.131.254]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031001015801.WEPZ1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:58:01 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7A34A6.7E3225FD@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:57:58 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Polka Night References: <20031001013636.20339.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> <3F7A316D.1F3D47D7@maynor.net> <3F7A3270.C97353BE@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > And it's about Brueghel's painting. This is driving me crazy. And I want to say Wallace Stevens. Or maybe William Carlos Williams. Sort of a cross between those two in style. Maybe even somebody like Auden, though I don't think so. They go round and around and around. The dancers. In Brueghel's painting. Surely this is findable on the web. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 21:08:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9128A21029026 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:08:10 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6B3101E60170; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:06:39 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 392C01E6016F for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:06:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E431F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:02:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12724971 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:02:37 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9122bU17924 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:02:37 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.131.254]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031001020231.WHDH1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:02:31 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7A35B8.4B624D1A@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:02:32 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Found It Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU **************** William Carlos Williams The Dance In Brueghel's great picture, The Kermess, the dancers go round, they go round and around, the squeal and the blare and the tweedle of bagpipes, a bugle and fiddles tipping their bellies (round as the thick- sided glasses whose wash they impound) their hips and their bellies off balance to turn them. Kicking and rolling about the Fair Grounds, swinging their butts, those shanks must be sound to bear up under such rollicking measures, prance as they dance in Brueghel's great picture, The Kermess. **************** from: http://www.eng.fju.edu.tw/English_Literature/poetry_art/Dance.htm -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 21:12:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h912Cb21029063 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:12:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 39D5C1E60173; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:11:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BF4A1E60171 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:11:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E4357@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:07:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12725381 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:07:04 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91273U18514 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:07:03 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h912738b014593 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:07:03 -0400 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h91273fC020434 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:07:03 -0400 Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:09:02 -0400 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Polka Night Message-ID: <1663326234.1064959742@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <3F7A34A6.7E3225FD@maynor.net> References: <20031001013636.20339.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> <3F7A316D.1F3D47D7@maynor.net> <3F7A3270.C97353BE@maynor.net> <3F7A34A6.7E3225FD@maynor.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > They go round and around and around. The dancers. In Brueghel's > painting. Surely this is findable on the web. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Most certainly... Nice poem and picture Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 21:20:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h912Kc21029147 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:20:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 812B91E6016B; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:48:32 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 534F11E6008E for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:48:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001865A9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:44:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12724112 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:44:30 -0400 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h911iUU16095 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:44:30 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1c4.f92bccb (4230) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:43:37 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1c4.f92bccb.2cab8b48@aol.com> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:43:36 EDT Subject: poor daisy! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU She's gotten too big to fit in her favorite spots! Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 21:32:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h912W521029240 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:32:05 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B557A1E60171; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:30:33 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8602F1E6016B for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:30:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E43A3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:26:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12726189 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:26:31 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h912QVU20473 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:26:31 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 51C182B56D; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:26:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B9702B54E for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:26:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:26:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Polka Night In-Reply-To: <20031001010148.GB315@pobox.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, Tushar Samant wrote: > Beer comes in the mouth, > And love comes in at the eye, > That's is all we shall know for truth > Before we grow old and die. > I hit the glass to my mouth, > I look at you and I sigh. Draft The Clean Beer Beer produced newly Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 21:41:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h912fm21029322 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:41:48 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 12B021E60171; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:40:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D529A1E6016D for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:40:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E43D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:36:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12726822 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:36:14 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h912aEU21904 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:36:14 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0018670C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:36:13 -0400 Message-Id: <200310010236.h912aEU21904@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:36:14 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Quiet To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:02:37 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Why is everybody so quiet? I may just watch tv tonight instead of >hanging around on my computer. I should open some of the huge pile of >magazines that are haunting me. I don't want to start a good book >because things are too busy now. I do have a couple of ho-hummers that >I read a few more pages of from time to time, but I don't want to start >something good. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I have been quiet because I was busy having a birthday party. It's an odd thing to do, I know, but I felt like having company. We had a whole big dinner, and V cooked and my kids actually exerted themselves to help entertain guests. Br P came, but (Br P, cover your ears), I was completely embarrassed because I never thought people would give presents but they did. We had: salad, Italian wedding soup, crusty potatoes, stir fry and beef, and cheesecake. I was an idiot completely, but I haven't had a party since I don't know when, so I guess I'm out of practice. I had fun, though. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 21:42:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h912gB21029331 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:42:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CA4C11E60171; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:40:39 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A1481E6016D for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:40:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E43DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:36:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12726880 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:36:37 -0400 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h912abU21979 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:36:37 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:36:36 PDT Message-ID: <20031001023636.19784.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:36:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Polka Night To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F7A3403.86367D90@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I can't throw everything over. The timing has to be > right. I could do > it Thanksgiving week if there are any places left at > Fbabies for that > time, or I could do it shortly before or after the > NY trip I just > planned for xmas holidays. The next available > possibility will be > spring break. But I really do need to go to Paris > sometime in the next > year since a friend of mine is renting an apartment > there for a year, > starting Nov. 1, and wants guests to come often. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Well, I suspect Chicago and the polka will still be there, but what of T.S.? If he hears us plotting, he may fly the coop. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 21:48:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h912mg21029436 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:48:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B235F1E60175; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:47:10 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E8B51E60173 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:47:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E4418@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:43:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12727504 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:43:08 -0400 Received: from web20506.mail.yahoo.com (web20506.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h912h8U23411 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:43:08 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:43:06 PDT Message-ID: <20031001024306.14387.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:43:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Found It To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F7A35B8.4B624D1A@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > **************** > William Carlos Williams > > The Dance > > In Brueghel's great picture, The Kermess, > the dancers go round, they go round and > around, the squeal and the blare and the > tweedle of bagpipes, a bugle and fiddles > tipping their bellies (round as the thick- > sided glasses whose wash they impound) > their hips and their bellies off balance > to turn them. Kicking and rolling > about the Fair Grounds, swinging their butts, those > shanks must be sound to bear up under such > rollicking measures, prance as they dance > in Brueghel's great picture, The Kermess. > **************** > > from: > http://www.eng.fju.edu.tw/English_Literature/poetry_art/Dance.htm > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Wonderful, both! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 21:52:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h912qM21029465 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:52:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 442401E60175; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:50:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14AA81E60171 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:50:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E443C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:46:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12727713 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:46:48 -0400 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h912klU23961 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:46:47 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:46:47 PDT Message-ID: <20031001024647.6656.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:46:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Quiet To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200310010236.h912aEU21904@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > We had: salad, Italian wedding soup, crusty > potatoes, stir fry and beef, and > cheesecake. I was an idiot completely, but I > haven't had a party since I > don't know when, so I guess I'm out of practice. I > had fun, though. > > clo Good for everyone. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 21:54:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h912sT21029472 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:54:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1AAFD1E60175; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:52:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF82F1E60171 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:52:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E4449@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:48:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12727818 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:48:47 -0400 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h912mlU24288 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:48:47 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1f0.109be5d5 (4222) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:48:36 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1f0.109be5d5.2cab9a83@aol.com> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:48:35 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Quiet To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 9/30/2003 9:37:00 PM Central Daylight Time, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: << We had: salad, Italian wedding soup, crusty potatoes, stir fry and beef, and cheesecake. I was an idiot completely, but I haven't had a party since I don't know when, so I guess I'm out of practice. I had fun, though. >> I'm glad you had fun; you deserve it. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 22:26:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h913Q121029736 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:26:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3F47A1E60177; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:24:29 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12B4C1E60176 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:24:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E46FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:20:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12733467 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:20:26 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h913KQU29523 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:20:26 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h913KPu05655 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:20:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id C6B7F16B6; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:20:25 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:20:25 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Polka Night Message-ID: <20031001032025.GA8698@pobox.com> References: <20031001003707.GA24641@pobox.com> <20031001013334.18006.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031001013334.18006.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-30 | Lynne Weber writes: > We should all go with T.S. to Polka Night. It would > be "cool". His character assessments herein are > right-on, I'd be willing to bet. It's not like these are particularly original assessments. It's just that some of these people were such egregious examples of their type it pissed me off. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 22:33:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h913XU21029840 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:33:30 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A9AF41E60177; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:31:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CD9C1E60175 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:31:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E4721@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:27:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12733799 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:27:56 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h913RuU30093 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:27:56 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h913Rtu09459 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:27:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id C046816B6; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:27:55 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:27:55 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Polka Night Message-ID: <20031001032755.GB8698@pobox.com> References: <3F7A3403.86367D90@maynor.net> <20031001023636.19784.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031001023636.19784.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-30 | Lynne Weber writes: > Well, I suspect Chicago and the polka will still be > there, but what of T.S.? If he hears us plotting, he > may fly the coop. Well, this place doesn't have any polka regularly. It was a one-time event. But I am sure Jeannie will know about a few places on the South side wait WHAT THE HELL AM I SAYING? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 22:39:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h913de21029905 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:39:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7B2281E60177; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:38:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E8DE1E60176 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:38:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E474A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:34:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12734166 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:34:06 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h913Y6U30692 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:34:06 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h913Y5u12710 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:34:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 808D216B4; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:34:05 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:34:05 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Found It Message-ID: <20031001033405.GC8698@pobox.com> References: <3F7A35B8.4B624D1A@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F7A35B8.4B624D1A@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-30 | Natalie Maynor writes: > **************** > William Carlos Williams > > The Dance I hope I see the day when poems like this are given some kind of polite status, like "nice experiment but a failure" or similar, and cease to be models for every aspiring lameass poet ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 22:41:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h913fN21029912 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:41:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 90AE61E60177; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:39:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FDE01E60176 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:39:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00186A55@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:35:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12734195 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:35:49 -0400 Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com (web20502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h913ZmU30752 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:35:49 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:35:48 PDT Message-ID: <20031001033548.98130.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:35:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Polka Night To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031001032755.GB8698@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Well, this place doesn't have any polka regularly. > It was > a one-time event. But I am sure Jeannie will know > about a > few places on the South side wait WHAT THE HELL AM I SAYING? You have fallen into my sex-obsessed trap. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 22:43:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h913hC21029940 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:43:12 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D82E71E60177; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:41:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA5381E60176 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:41:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E4739@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:37:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12734276 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:37:38 -0400 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h913bcU30883 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:37:38 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:37:37 PDT Message-ID: <20031001033737.8078.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:37:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Found It To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031001033405.GC8698@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I hope I see the day when poems like this are given > some kind > of polite status, like "nice experiment but a > failure" or similar, > and cease to be models for every aspiring lameass > poet ... I don't read this as poetry. I read it as descriptive captioning. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 22:56:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h913ut21030118 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:56:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0B3BC1E60178; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:55:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD6D61E60176 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:55:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E4786@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:51:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12734873 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:51:20 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h913pKU32460 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:51:20 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A4Y1I-00007S-Bj for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:51:20 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030930204956.05311f60@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:53:31 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Found It In-Reply-To: <20031001033737.8078.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031001033405.GC8698@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber writes, >I don't read this as poetry. I read it as descriptive >captioning. But you're not the problem -- aspiring lameass poets are. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 23:02:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9142L21030188 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:02:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 336D71E60178; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:00:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0596A1E60176 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:00:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00186AB3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:56:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12735253 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:56:46 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h913ukU00571 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:56:46 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h913uku24872 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:56:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 0283116B4; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:56:45 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:56:45 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Found It Message-ID: <20031001035645.GA10404@pobox.com> References: <20031001033405.GC8698@pobox.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20030930204956.05311f60@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030930204956.05311f60@mail.istori.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-09-30 | Peter Kaminski writes: > Lynne Weber writes, > > >I don't read this as poetry. I read it as descriptive > >captioning. > > But you're not the problem -- aspiring lameass poets are. Please ... We ALL are the problem. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Sep 30 23:36:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h914am21030608 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:36:48 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9A3C31E6017E; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:34:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B3611E6017D for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:34:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E4948@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 0:30:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12737960 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 00:29:23 -0400 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h914DcU03527 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 00:13:38 -0400 Received: from [68.159.176.17] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:13:37 PDT Message-ID: <20031001041337.57017.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:13:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Found It To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031001035645.GA10404@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Please ... We ALL are the problem. One day my husband was watching a religious program on which appeared two gentlemen of the cloth. One looked earnestly into the camera lens and smiled at his audience and said, "When we were students together [gracious smile at fellow, then return to camera], we used to say to each other, if you're not a part of the solution, you're part of the problem." "Ha, ha. Oh, yes." "Hee, hee, we did." They seemed to be genuinely amused by how clever they had been at the seminary. You didn't crib it from them, did you, T.S.? No, I didn't think so. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 04:55:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h919tC21001529 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 04:55:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0F9891E60039; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 04:52:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0F341E6000C for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 04:52:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00187038@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 5:47:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12749796 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 05:47:59 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h919lxU32080 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 05:47:59 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.132.194]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031001094753.ZJZF1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 05:47:53 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7AA2CA.6C0BE6D0@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 04:47:54 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Quiet References: <200310010236.h912aEU21904@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > I was an idiot completely, but I haven't had a party since I > don't know when, so I guess I'm out of practice. I had fun, though. It sounds like a perfect event. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 04:55:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h919tE21001532 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 04:55:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C6C111E60096; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 04:52:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9896B1E6008C for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 04:52:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E4E53@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 5:48:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12749855 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 05:48:53 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h919mrU32212 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 05:48:53 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.132.194]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031001094847.ZKCA1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 05:48:47 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7AA300.55A7AA08@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 04:48:48 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Polka Night References: <20031001023636.19784.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Well, I suspect Chicago and the polka will still be > there, but what of T.S.? If he hears us plotting, he > may fly the coop. No, he'll be there. He might not tell us exactly where, but we will find him. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 04:55:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h919tN21001543 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 04:55:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C391D1E6008C; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 04:53:48 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96A251E60039 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 04:53:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018704F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 5:49:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12749878 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 05:49:30 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h919nUU32277 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 05:49:30 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.132.194]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031001094925.ZKDT1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 05:49:25 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7AA325.6E5FE0BC@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 04:49:25 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Polka Night References: <3F7A3403.86367D90@maynor.net> <20031001023636.19784.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> <20031001032755.GB8698@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > few places on the South side wait WHAT THE HELL AM I SAYING? Yes! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 04:58:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h919wD21001559 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 04:58:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D201C1E60039; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 04:56:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D8031E6000C for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 04:56:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E4E60@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 5:52:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12749959 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 05:52:36 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h919qaU32542 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 05:52:36 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.132.194]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031001095230.ZKLZ1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 05:52:30 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7AA3DF.F0D3120@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 04:52:31 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Found It References: <3F7A35B8.4B624D1A@maynor.net> <20031001033405.GC8698@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > > **************** > > William Carlos Williams > > > > The Dance > > I hope I see the day when poems like this are given some kind > of polite status, like "nice experiment but a failure" or similar, > and cease to be models for every aspiring lameass poet ... I think that about pretty much everything WCW wrote: NEBF. But then his wheelbarrows and plums and things do seem to sit on little shelves in my head for some reason. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 06:42:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91BgO21002711 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 06:42:24 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7733F1E60048; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 06:40:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4066B1E6003D for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 06:40:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E5045@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 7:36:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12753479 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 07:36:46 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91BQkU28919 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 07:26:46 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h91BQcAR028189 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Wed, 1 Oct 2003 07:26:41 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 07:26:42 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: the real end of an era Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I have commented on my perception that leaving the Old City is a major move for me. But yesterday, the real end of an era occurred. During all the years I lived in the Old City, I voted in an East Knoxville polling place - Green School. That part of East Knoxville is primarily African-American. I was very aware yesterday, as I voted in the primary, that that was probaby the last time I will ever vote there. Beginning with the November general election, I will vote in almost 100% white and very upper crust Sequoyah Hills. Hmmm ... I am also aware that I am experiencing a great sense of freedom about my after 5 p.m. activity - since I do not have to worry about where I will park when I get home! Today, I am scheduled to get my parking permit for my enclosed, covered, reserved parking place inside our building. Yes! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 08:34:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91DYs21003844 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 08:34:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0E2191E60089; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 08:33:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEFB91E60088 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 08:33:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E5415@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 9:29:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12762754 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 09:29:16 -0400 Received: from web20512.mail.yahoo.com (web20512.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h91DTFU17147 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 09:29:15 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20512.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 06:29:14 PDT Message-ID: <20031001132914.81775.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 06:29:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: the real end of an era To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I am also aware that I am experiencing a great sense > of freedom about my > after 5 p.m. activity - since I do not have to worry > about where I will > park when I get home! > > Today, I am scheduled to get my parking permit for > my enclosed, covered, > reserved parking place inside our building. Yes! > > Bethany You sound delighted to be in your new home. May you be bless. And it doesn't matter where you vote, just do it. Bonne chance! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 09:52:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91Eq721004736 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 09:52:08 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4E71A1E60095; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 09:50:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 134AF1E6005C for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 09:50:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E575C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 10:46:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12770525 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 10:46:28 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91EkSd01279 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 10:46:28 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h91EkRHL008468 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 07:46:27 -0700 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h91EkQjD008440 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 07:46:26 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031001074338.00a56ec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 07:44:47 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Alyce's Cubs In-Reply-To: <20031001035645.GA10404@pobox.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030930204956.05311f60@mail.istori.com> <20031001033405.GC8698@pobox.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20030930204956.05311f60@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I wish she could have seen them last night! I'd rather go to Chicago for a baseball game than a stupid polka. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 10:43:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91FhC21005370 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 10:43:12 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 52F1E1E60098; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 10:41:35 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 213A71E60035 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 10:41:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E5930@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:37:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12774854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:37:32 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91FbVd10776 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:37:31 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id BE26C2B56D; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 08:37:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3DF02B549 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 08:37:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 08:37:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: my favorite polkas Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Oh here are just -some- of my favorites: Czarna Madonna Cry Baby Polka Miala Baba Koguta Polka If I Knew Polka The Killer Bees (Polka) My Favorite Dish Polka Just Do It Polka Mrs. Pennsylvania Herky's Polka My Polka Boyfriend Polka Holiday In Poland Polka Happy Tappy Polka Kosil Ojiec Wiazanka Ludowa Czemu Ty Dziewczyno Goralu Czy Ci Nie Zal I Thank You, Jesus Firebucket Oberek Pierogi Baby Of course my favorite waltz is: "Til We Meet In Chicago". Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 11:06:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91G6K21005680 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:06:20 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00187B44@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:00:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12776744 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:00:17 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91G0HW15252 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:00:17 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00187B39@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:00:16 -0400 Message-Id: <200310011600.h91G0HW15252@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:00:16 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Polka Night To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:27:55 -0500, Tushar Samant wrote: >02003-09-30 | Lynne Weber writes: >> Well, I suspect Chicago and the polka will still be >> there, but what of T.S.? If he hears us plotting, he >> may fly the coop. > >Well, this place doesn't have any polka regularly. It was >a one-time event. But I am sure Jeannie will know about a >few places on the South side wait WHAT THE HELL AM I SAYING? LOL clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 11:08:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91G8A21005688 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:08:12 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00187B47@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:02:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12776861 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:02:08 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91G28W15570 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:02:08 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h91G27128294 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:02:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 7240816B4; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:02:07 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:02:07 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: my favorite polkas Message-ID: <20031001160207.GA15049@pobox.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-10-01 | Ann Borkin writes: > Oh here are just -some- of my favorites: PUH-LEESE! > Czarna Madonna > Cry Baby Polka > Miala Baba Koguta Polka > If I Knew Polka > The Killer Bees (Polka) > My Favorite Dish Polka > Just Do It Polka > Mrs. Pennsylvania > Herky's Polka > My Polka Boyfriend Polka > Holiday In Poland Polka > Happy Tappy Polka > Kosil Ojiec > Wiazanka Ludowa > Czemu Ty Dziewczyno > Goralu Czy Ci Nie Zal > I Thank You, Jesus > Firebucket Oberek > Pierogi Baby > > Of course my favorite waltz is: "Til We Meet In Chicago". > > Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 11:16:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91GGj21005789 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:16:45 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00187BAC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:10:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12777775 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:10:43 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91GAgW17401 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:10:42 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h91GAg105986 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:10:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id D90A416B4; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:10:41 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:10:41 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: my favorite polkas Message-ID: <20031001161041.GB15049@pobox.com> References: <20031001160207.GA15049@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-10-01 | Ann Borkin writes: > On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Tushar Samant wrote: > > 02003-10-01 | Ann Borkin writes: > > > Oh here are just -some- of my favorites: > > > > PUH-LEESE! > > No, PUH-LASKI! *szlap* From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 11:43:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91Ghu21006075 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:43:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2D1F11E6009C; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:42:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F398A1E600A0 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:42:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E5AF5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:31:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12779197 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:31:15 -0400 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h91GVFW20987 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:31:15 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 09:31:14 PDT Message-ID: <20031001163114.84020.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 09:31:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Alyce's Cubs To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031001074338.00a56ec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Betty Clark wrote: > I wish she could have seen them last night! > > I'd rather go to Chicago for a baseball game than a > stupid polka. > > Betty Win the game, then polka, or polenta, or whatever... __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 11:43:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91Ghu21006074 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:43:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2A0161E60098; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:42:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB63D1E6009C for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:42:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E5A3B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:06:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12777251 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:06:26 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91G6PW16237 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:06:25 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 3BA3B2B56D; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 09:06:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4D132B57E for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 09:06:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 09:06:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: my favorite polkas In-Reply-To: <20031001160207.GA15049@pobox.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Tushar Samant wrote: > 02003-10-01 | Ann Borkin writes: > > Oh here are just -some- of my favorites: > > PUH-LEESE! No, PUH-LASKI! Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 11:43:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91Ghu21006073 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:43:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 27ADD1E600A3; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:42:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E715A1E60098 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:42:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E59EA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:57:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12776484 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:57:26 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91FvQW14500 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:57:26 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h91FvO9v029678 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 10:57:25 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000401c38835$c1d96540$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: my favorite polkas Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:04:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Oh here are just -some- of my favorites: > > Czarna Madonna > Cry Baby Polka > Miala Baba Koguta Polka > If I Knew Polka > The Killer Bees (Polka) > My Favorite Dish Polka > Just Do It Polka > Mrs. Pennsylvania > Herky's Polka > My Polka Boyfriend Polka > Holiday In Poland Polka > Happy Tappy Polka > Kosil Ojiec > Wiazanka Ludowa > Czemu Ty Dziewczyno > Goralu Czy Ci Nie Zal > I Thank You, Jesus > Firebucket Oberek > Pierogi Baby > > Of course my favorite waltz is: "Til We Meet In Chicago". > > Ann What?? You left out The Beer Barrel Polka?? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 11:43:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91Ghu21006076 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:43:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 322141E600A0; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:42:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3D281E600A1 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:42:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E5AB3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:19:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12778421 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:18:59 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91GIwW18862 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:18:58 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 2FB952B56F; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 09:18:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B0162B54E for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 09:18:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 09:18:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: my favorite polkas In-Reply-To: <20031001161041.GB15049@pobox.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Tushar Samant wrote: > > > PUH-LEESE! > > No, PUH-LASKI! > *szlap* **schtompf schtompf schtompfz** From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 11:51:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91GpT21006211 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:51:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 005411E60015; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:48:00 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C623D1E60021 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:47:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00187CD3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:43:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12780758 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:43:57 -0400 Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.23]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91GhvW24383 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:43:57 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HM300BFO7T7N6@mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 12:43:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.36] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 01 Oct 2003 12:40:34 -0400 Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 12:40:34 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Subways To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <3f64141a23.41a233f641@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Or is it the 1 and 2 that go up and down the west side? 1,2,3,9 (and A,C,E) all go up and down the west side. The B,D, and Q lines are partially on the west side. The west side is much better supplied with trains than the east. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 11:54:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91Gse21006258 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:54:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 21FB51E60015; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:53:03 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC99A1E60014 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:53:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00187CFA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:49:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12781296 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:49:00 -0400 Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.23]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91Gn0W25532 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:49:00 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HM300DE881M1L@mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 12:48:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.36] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 01 Oct 2003 12:45:37 -0400 Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 12:45:37 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Are These People Trustworthy? To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <407b544aa3.44aa3407b5@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > time I invited Miles to meet me on top of the ESB at sunset on > Dec. 17 I'm not Myles but I'll meet you there... Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 12:07:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91H7l21006379 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:07:48 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AC9521E6009C; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:06:10 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F01F1E60014 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:06:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E5B8A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:40:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12780458 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:40:13 -0400 Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.17]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91GeDW23526 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:40:13 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HM300ACX7NR2E@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 12:40:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.36] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 01 Oct 2003 12:36:50 -0400 Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 12:36:50 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: I matched Julia Roberts To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <4426a426ff.426ff4426a@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: Tushar Samant Date: Monday, September 29, 2003 7:30 pm Subject: Re: I matched Julia Roberts > 02003-09-29 | Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> writes: > > I matched Kathy Bates! > > > > (And I'm okay with that.) > > Well I matched Julia Roberts. We are SO compatible! Kiss me you fool!@! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 12:07:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91H7l21006380 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:07:48 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B324C1E600A1; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:06:10 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 810411E60015 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:06:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E5B85@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:42:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12780663 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:42:15 -0400 Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.46]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91GgFW24030 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:42:15 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HM3000UA7JDTY@mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 12:38:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.36] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 01 Oct 2003 12:34:39 -0400 Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 12:34:39 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: I matched Julia Roberts To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <4361b43056.430564361b@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Btw, I'm listening to Los Lonely Boys as we speak. Not bad. > I'd love to hear them live. You bought the CD, or are they on the radio? "Heaven" is getting decent airplay on the indie stations (WFUV, WXPN). > -rashmi, whose favorite in the genre is -Ozomatli- That's a band? What would you call the genre. P.S. Love Carol Burnett! Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 13:33:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91IXk21007488 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:33:46 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 006E91E600A5; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:32:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C75471E60004 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:32:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E5E1C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:50:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12786779 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:50:47 -0400 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h91HokW04650 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:50:46 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 10:50:46 PDT Message-ID: <20031001175046.9335.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 10:50:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Subways To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3f64141a23.41a233f641@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote: > > Or is it the 1 and 2 that go up and down the west > side? > > 1,2,3,9 (and A,C,E) all go up and down the west > side. The B,D, and Q lines are partially on the west > side. The west side is much better supplied with > trains than the east. > > Marie Why is it the eastern sections of cities are less favored in all aspects, than the west-north-south? And why do we say "Upstate New York, but never "upstate" any other state? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 13:33:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91IXk21007490 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:33:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0C72E1E600A1; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:32:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDF161E600A3 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:32:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E5F0E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:08:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12788657 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:08:57 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h91I8vW08377 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:08:57 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 14:08:57 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 14:08:50 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: my favorite polkas Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h91IXk21007490 There's some joke in here about having your "back to the waltz" but I haven't quite refined it. BrP >>> clostran@SYR.EDU 10/01/03 02:02PM >>> On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 09:18:57 -0700, Ann Borkin wrote: >On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Tushar Samant wrote: > >> > > PUH-LEESE! >> > No, PUH-LASKI! >> *szlap* > >**schtompf schtompf schtompfz** Now she's back to the waltz. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 13:33:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91IXl21007497 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:33:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3F3D11E60016; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:32:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F5DD1E600A3 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:32:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E5F5B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:16:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12789354 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:16:31 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91IGUW09891 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:16:30 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00188038@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:16:30 -0400 Message-Id: <200310011816.h91IGUW09891@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:16:30 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: my favorite polkas To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:08:50 -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > >>>> clostran@SYR.EDU 10/01/03 02:02PM >>> >On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 09:18:57 -0700, Ann Borkin wrote: > >>On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Tushar Samant wrote: >> >>> > > PUH-LEESE! >>> > No, PUH-LASKI! >>> *szlap* >> >>**schtompf schtompf schtompfz** > >Now she's back to the waltz. > >clo >There's some joke in here about having your "back to the waltz" but I haven't quite refined it. > >BrP > > > Isn't it Tushar who has his back up against the waltz? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 13:33:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91IXk21007492 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:33:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 104DF1E600E7; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:32:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFFE21E600A4 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:32:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E5F51@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:15:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12789276 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:15:57 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h91IFsW09683 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:15:54 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 14:15:54 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 14:15:42 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: my favorite polkas Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h91IXk21007492 What are jackstrap boots? I looked on google and it gave me no hits and wondered if I meant "jockstrap boots" I didn't. Did you? BrP >>> lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM 10/01/03 02:08PM >>> > >**schtompf schtompf schtompfz** > > Now she's back to the waltz. For some reason, I heard the sound of marching, jackstrap boots. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 13:33:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91IXl21007498 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:33:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 462CA1E600A4; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:32:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14DC31E600F9 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:32:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E5F5C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:20:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12788801 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:20:46 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91IAkW08668 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:10:46 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h91IAfAR018510 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:10:41 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:10:46 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the real end of an era In-Reply-To: <20031001180438.24337.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031001180438.24337.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >I trust Maria has the new address? Since she lives in the green grass splendor of the 200 acres of Penrose Farm, she neighver deigns to visit moi. I must visit/serve her. Actually, that is a lie. She and Christopher (the PF donkey) used to come to parties in the 3rd floor loft. Perhaps she will visit me at HH. The best news: I have a one-hour massage scheduled tomorrow evening. And I have turned off UT's DSL service - too expensive even when the modem works. On to Comcast! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 13:33:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91IXk21007489 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:33:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0570F1E60004; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:32:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBE321E600A1 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:32:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E5E8D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:03:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12787911 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:03:46 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h91I3kW07374 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:03:46 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 14:03:42 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 14:03:37 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Subways Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h91IXk21007489 re: Eastern section less favored - sez who ? I wanna see stats The east side of Syracuse is the nicest area re: Upstate - it's "Up" in relation to New York City. Illinois has "downstate" in relation to Chicago BrP >>> lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM 10/01/03 01:50PM >>> Why is it the eastern sections of cities are less favored in all aspects, than the west-north-south? And why do we say "Upstate New York, but never "upstate" any other state? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 13:33:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91IXk21007491 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:33:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 06E241E600A6; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:32:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9FEA1E60016 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:32:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E5E89@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:01:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12787759 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:01:37 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91I1bW06882 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:01:37 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00187F7F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:01:37 -0400 Message-Id: <200310011801.h91I1bW06882@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:01:37 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: the real end of an era To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:42:36 -0400, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > >>You sound delighted to be in your new home. May you >>be bless. And it doesn't matter where you vote, just >>do it. >> >>Bonne chance! > >Thanks. But in fact it does matter to me. I have been exchanging greetings >and jibes with the gutsy black ladies who the polls at >Green School for many years. Yesterday, I told them I was moving. They >wanted to know where. I did not want to tell them I had moved to Sequoyah >Hills. I said merely that I had decided to check out the white folks' >living style for a while. They booed! > >Democrat interloper in the mayor's race here Madeline /sp?/ Rogero came >within 1800 votes of tying favorite Bill Haslam, son of Jim Haslam. Ward >4 (Green School) went heavily for Rogero. > >I'll miss some of my East Knoxville neighbors. > >Bethany I moved back to town largely so I could hang out in the neighborhoods. The fact that BrP lives close by is entirely coincidence. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 13:33:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91IXl21007499 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:33:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 42D4D1E600A3; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:32:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13CA61E600A4 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:32:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E5F51@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:18:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12789541 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:18:47 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91IIlW10332 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:18:47 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00188055@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:18:46 -0400 Message-Id: <200310011818.h91IIlW10332@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:18:46 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: my favorite polkas To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>>> lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM 10/01/03 02:08PM >>> >> >**schtompf schtompf schtompfz** >> >> Now she's back to the waltz. > >For some reason, I heard the sound of marching, >jackstrap boots. > On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:15:42 -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: >What are jackstrap boots? > >I looked on google and it gave me no hits and wondered if I meant "jockstrap boots" I didn't. Did you? > >BrP > This has to mean "jack boots". Mmm. a coworker just brought me mango yogurt with apples. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 13:35:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91IZt21007550 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:35:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 870CC1E600A3; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:34:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59BC91E600A1 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:34:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E5FA8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:30:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12790333 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:30:14 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91IUEW12321 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:30:14 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001880A9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:30:14 -0400 Message-Id: <200310011830.h91IUEW12321@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:30:14 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: the real end of an era To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:21:16 -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > >I'm bad > >BrP > > >>>> clostran@SYR.EDU 10/01/03 02:01PM >>> > >I moved back to town largely so I could hang out in the neighborhoods. >The fact that BrP lives close by is entirely coincidence. > >clo Don't you mean, "my bad"? C'mon, Paul, get with the beat! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 13:50:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91Ioe21007749 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:50:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 506181E600A3; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:49:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19CFE1E600A4 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:49:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E6022@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:40:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12791233 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:40:51 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91IepW14763 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:40:51 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h91IeZW1005894 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:40:35 -0700 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h91IeYWq005864 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:40:34 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031001113846.00a6a310@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 11:38:55 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: the real end of an era In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Braggert! At 02:21 PM 10/1/2003 -0400, you wrote: > >I'm bad > >BrP > > > >>> clostran@SYR.EDU 10/01/03 02:01PM >>> > >I moved back to town largely so I could hang out in the neighborhoods. >The fact that BrP lives close by is entirely coincidence. > >clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 13:50:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91Ioe21007748 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:50:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4C8821E600A5; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:49:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17A011E600A3 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:49:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E5FD0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:34:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12790735 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:34:36 -0400 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h91IYaW13419 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:34:36 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 11:34:35 PDT Message-ID: <20031001183435.74988.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:34:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Subways To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Paul Barfoot wrote: > > re: Eastern section less favored - sez who ? I > wanna see stats > > The east side of Syracuse is the nicest area > > > re: Upstate - it's "Up" in relation to New York > City. Illinois has "downstate" in relation to > Chicago > > BrP Yeah, but east side of London, east side of NYC, east side of St. Louis, east side of LA, east side of Boston, east side of every city in NJ. I fully admit to these "sides" not being citable, just my impression from what I've read and heard. I'm sure Syracuse is lovely on all sides. Syracuse has a dispensation by virtue of the fact that one of her champions has leaped to her defense. But - upstate Idaho, downstate Virginia, upstate Montana, upstate Kentucky? I've never heard those. So, NYC and Chicago are the only reference points for up and down-stating? BTW, during your recent trip, you didn't happen to hear what the temp. of the seawater was, did you? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 13:51:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91Ipj21007766 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:51:45 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9CCB91E600A3; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:50:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A3331E600A1 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:50:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E6039@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:46:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12791586 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:45:56 -0400 Received: from web20513.mail.yahoo.com (web20513.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h91IjtW15708 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:45:55 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20513.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 11:45:17 PDT Message-ID: <20031001184517.38913.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:45:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: my favorite polkas To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200310011816.h91IGUW09891@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >There's some joke in here about having your "back > to the waltz" but I > haven't quite refined it. > > > >BrP > > > > > > > Isn't it Tushar who has his back up against the > waltz? > > clo The polka is in his court. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 13:55:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91It121007789 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:55:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6A7321E600F9; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:53:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38CEF1E600A4 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:53:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00187F80@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:02:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12787852 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:02:44 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91I2iW07183 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:02:44 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00187F75@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:02:44 -0400 Message-Id: <200310011802.h91I2iW07183@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:02:44 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: my favorite polkas To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 09:18:57 -0700, Ann Borkin wrote: >On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Tushar Samant wrote: > >> > > PUH-LEESE! >> > No, PUH-LASKI! >> *szlap* > >**schtompf schtompf schtompfz** Now she's back to the waltz. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 13:55:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91It121007792 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:55:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 719751E600A4; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:53:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 408AD1E600A5 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:53:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00187F91@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:04:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12788126 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:04:39 -0400 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h91I4dW07626 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:04:39 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 11:04:38 PDT Message-ID: <20031001180438.24337.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:04:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: the real end of an era To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Thanks. But in fact it does matter to me. I have > been exchanging greetings > and jibes with the gutsy black ladies who the > polls at > Green School for many years. Yesterday, I told them > I was moving. They > wanted to know where. I did not want to tell them I > had moved to Sequoyah > Hills. I said merely that I had decided to check out > the white folks' > living style for a while. They booed! > > Democrat interloper in the mayor's race here > Madeline /sp?/ Rogero came > within 1800 votes of tying favorite Bill Haslam, son > of Jim Haslam. Ward > 4 (Green School) went heavily for Rogero. > > I'll miss some of my East Knoxville neighbors. > > Bethany You'll make new friends and have new neighbors. You know where some of the old friends can be found. They don't know where you are. They would probably appreciate an election day visit from you. There are gutsy folks all around us. Look for them among your new neighbors. I trust Maria has the new address? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 13:55:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91It121007793 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:55:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 767371E600A5; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:53:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 444981E600A6 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:53:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00188001@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:08:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12788642 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:08:48 -0400 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h91I8lW08360 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:08:47 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 11:08:46 PDT Message-ID: <20031001180846.25808.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:08:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: my favorite polkas To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200310011802.h91I2iW07183@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 09:18:57 -0700, Ann Borkin > wrote: > > >On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Tushar Samant wrote: > > > >> > > PUH-LEESE! > >> > No, PUH-LASKI! > >> *szlap* > > > >**schtompf schtompf schtompfz** > > Now she's back to the waltz. > > clo For some reason, I heard the sound of marching, jackstrap boots. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 13:55:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91It121007795 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:55:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7E58C1E60107; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:53:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C6401E600E7 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:53:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00188082@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:21:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12789822 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:21:31 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h91ILUW10953 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:21:30 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 14:21:30 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 14:21:16 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: the real end of an era Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h91It121007795 I'm bad BrP >>> clostran@SYR.EDU 10/01/03 02:01PM >>> I moved back to town largely so I could hang out in the neighborhoods. The fact that BrP lives close by is entirely coincidence. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 13:55:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91It121007801 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:55:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AAF0E1E600A4; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:53:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79D501E600A6 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:53:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001880A3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:28:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12790268 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:28:43 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91IShW12068 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:28:43 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E5FA3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:28:43 -0400 Message-Id: <200310011828.h91IShW12068@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:28:43 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: imftatl Chicago neighborhoods To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Cc: Carolyn Ostrander Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Help! I have to go to a conference in November for Honors Programs. Part of the deal is an incredible excuse for everyone to go shopping and call it intellectual pursuit, known as "City as Text". Afterwards you come back together and lie about all the deep insights you gathered from "investigating" a small part of the environment you invaded. The areas described are listed here: http://www.asu.edu/honors/nchc/nonflash.html and I have to choose one. Left to my own devices, I would hide in a phone booth in the lobby and then snicker with the two others who also managed to escape being "organized" before going off to take a nap. This is the kind of active participant I am. And hey, I can catch a "slice of the culture" by chatting up the cleaning crew in the hotel hallways about the slobby habits of the other participants! But in this case, Tushar's tales of urban decadence have challenged me to test the likelihood that he tells about might actually take place in a suave and happening joint like the Winded City, so - based on your reading of Tushar's stories, which is the most likely tour to give me a taste of Chicago? Comeon, ladies and gents - belly up and place your bets! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 13:55:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91It321007804 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:55:03 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 03FE61E600A5; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:53:25 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3686B1E600A3 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:53:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00187F26@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:52:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12786029 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:52:37 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91HgbW03290 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:42:37 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h91HgWAR009063 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:42:32 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:42:36 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the real end of an era In-Reply-To: <20031001132914.81775.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031001132914.81775.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >You sound delighted to be in your new home. May you >be bless. And it doesn't matter where you vote, just >do it. > >Bonne chance! Thanks. But in fact it does matter to me. I have been exchanging greetings and jibes with the gutsy black ladies who the polls at Green School for many years. Yesterday, I told them I was moving. They wanted to know where. I did not want to tell them I had moved to Sequoyah Hills. I said merely that I had decided to check out the white folks' living style for a while. They booed! Democrat interloper in the mayor's race here Madeline /sp?/ Rogero came within 1800 votes of tying favorite Bill Haslam, son of Jim Haslam. Ward 4 (Green School) went heavily for Rogero. I'll miss some of my East Knoxville neighbors. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 13:56:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91IuG21007830 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:56:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D8EE91E600A3; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:54:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A74A91E600A1 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:54:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E6083@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:50:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12792270 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:50:36 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h91IoaW16788 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:50:36 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 14:50:36 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 14:50:33 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: the real end of an era Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h91IuG21007830 but never as bad as you Bad Betty You set the standard for Bad BrP >>> bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU 10/01/03 02:38PM >>> Braggert! At 02:21 PM 10/1/2003 -0400, you wrote: > >I'm bad > >BrP > > > >>> clostran@SYR.EDU 10/01/03 02:01PM >>> > >I moved back to town largely so I could hang out in the neighborhoods. >The fact that BrP lives close by is entirely coincidence. > >clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 13:59:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91IxC21007849 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:59:12 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AED461E600A1; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:57:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EC541E600A3 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:57:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00188179@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:53:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12792504 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:53:32 -0400 Received: from web20512.mail.yahoo.com (web20512.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h91IrVW17351 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:53:31 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20512.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 11:53:28 PDT Message-ID: <20031001185328.87262.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:53:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: my favorite polkas To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200310011818.h91IIlW10332@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >>>> lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM 10/01/03 02:08PM >>> > >> >**schtompf schtompf schtompfz** > >> > >> Now she's back to the waltz. > > > >For some reason, I heard the sound of marching, > >jackstrap boots. > > > On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:15:42 -0400, Paul Barfoot > wrote: > > >What are jackstrap boots? > > > >I looked on google and it gave me no hits and > wondered if I meant > "jockstrap boots" I didn't. Did you? > > > >BrP > > > > This has to mean "jack boots". > > Mmm. a coworker just brought me mango yogurt with > apples. > > clo It was a phrase that cropped up in my mind. I didn't Google it, but I certainly did NOT mean jockstrap. Maybe "jackstraps" don't exist. Jack boots is more likely. If anyone is ever called upon to give a definition of "jackstrap", please refer him to me. I will make up something. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 14:00:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91J0h21007896 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:00:43 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2C3F41E600A3; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:59:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E70FF1E600A1 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:59:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E60C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:55:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12792639 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:55:02 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91It2W17564 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:55:02 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h91It02f007848 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:55:00 -0700 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h91It0JC007826 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:55:00 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031001115256.00a6bec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 11:53:21 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: the real end of an era In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Only because I have had more time to practice! At 02:50 PM 10/1/2003 -0400, you wrote: >but never as bad as you Bad Betty > >You set the standard for Bad > >BrP > > > >>> bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU 10/01/03 02:38PM >>> >Braggert! > >At 02:21 PM 10/1/2003 -0400, you wrote: > > > >I'm bad > > > >BrP > > > > > > >>> clostran@SYR.EDU 10/01/03 02:01PM >>> > > > >I moved back to town largely so I could hang out in the neighborhoods. > >The fact that BrP lives close by is entirely coincidence. > > > >clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 14:01:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91J1H21007899 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:01:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 990B21E600A3; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:59:39 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64A5F1E600A1 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:59:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E60BF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:55:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12792702 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:55:36 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91ItYW17659 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:55:35 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h91ItWRP023389 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:55:32 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h91ItWfr023387 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:55:32 +0200 Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:55:32 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Subways Message-ID: <20031001185532.GA23362@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3f64141a23.41a233f641@optonline.net> <20031001175046.9335.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031001175046.9335.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = Why is it the eastern sections of cities are less = favored in all aspects, than the west-north-south? = Not in CHICAGO! That's why they call it the Gold Coast, duh. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 14:01:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91J1i21007903 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:01:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5B0931E600A3; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:00:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D15A1E600A1 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:00:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E60C6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:56:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12792755 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:56:03 -0400 Received: from tharminc.blockade.com ([216.18.57.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91Iu3W17718 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:56:03 -0400 Received: from Spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31) ID MO00000E; 1 Oct 03 14:55:48 -0400 Received: from spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31); 1 Oct 03 14:55:36 -0400 Received: from tharminc2 (127.0.0.1) by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31) with ESMTP ID MG00000D; 1 Oct 03 14:55:26 -0400 From: "Tony Harminc" To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:55:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: HOTEL (Natalie?) Message-ID: <3F7AEADD.17591.A8AF430@localhost> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU No not Hotel, but HOTEL. Is there somewhere out there on the net where one can obtain recordings of the English language as it sounds today, sounded n years ago, sounded (or might have sounded) n centuries ago, etc. Surely someone must've produced such a set, from OE through ME and towards today. I'm just trying to explain to Emily some very basic ideas of English/French cognates, and that requires getting across some idea that English has changed in various ways over time (but differently from the way French has changed), and that is hard to explain to a 9- year-old without examples. Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 14:03:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91J3V21007919 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:03:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 71DFF1E600A3; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:01:53 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FAE11E600A1 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:01:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E60D4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:57:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12792882 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:57:50 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h91IvoW17971 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:57:50 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 14:57:50 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 14:57:32 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Subways Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h91J3V21007919 look up the phrase "Upstate South Carolina" and see what you get I wasn't near enough to any seawater to be aware of its temp. The Oregon coast, if my understanding is correct, is not known for warm water. BrP >>> lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM 10/01/03 02:34PM >>> --- Paul Barfoot wrote: But - upstate Idaho, downstate Virginia, upstate Montana, upstate Kentucky? I've never heard those. So, NYC and Chicago are the only reference points for up and down-stating? BTW, during your recent trip, you didn't happen to hear what the temp. of the seawater was, did you? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 14:08:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91J8c21007967 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:08:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E97041E600A3; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:07:00 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B021E600A1 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:07:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E6103@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:02:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12793209 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:02:58 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91J2vW18757 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:02:58 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h91J2v129862 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:02:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 671EC16B4; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:02:57 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:02:57 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Subways Message-ID: <20031001190257.GA5092@pobox.com> References: <20031001183435.74988.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031001183435.74988.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-10-01 | Lynne Weber writes: > Yeah, but east side of London, east side of NYC, east > side of St. Louis, east side of LA, east side of > Boston, east side of every city in NJ. I fully admit > to these "sides" not being citable, just my impression > from what I've read and heard. All great port cities in the northern hemisphere have their docks on the east side. Actually I just pulled this "theory" out MyAss[tm]. But someone with a Ph.D. should be able to prove it... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 14:11:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91JB821007995 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:11:08 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8DD211E600A3; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:09:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D4DC1E600A1 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:09:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E60FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:05:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12793442 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:05:27 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91J5PW19288 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:05:25 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h91J5ORP023430 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:05:24 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h91J5N1w023428 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:05:23 +0200 Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:05:23 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: imftatl Chicago neighborhoods Message-ID: <20031001190523.GB23362@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200310011828.h91IShW12068@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200310011828.h91IShW12068@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = based on your reading of Tushar's stories, which is the most likely tour to = give me a taste of Chicago? Comeon, ladies and gents - belly up and = place your bets! = = clo T'hell with his Chicago. Go visit my fountain. Do the Architectural one. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 14:12:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91JCh21008012 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:12:43 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6DE5B1E600A5; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:11:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19E5A1E600A4 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:11:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E6106@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:07:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12793555 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:07:02 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91J71W19607 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:07:02 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h91J71103859 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:07:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 48B9E16B4; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:07:01 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:07:01 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: imftatl Chicago neighborhoods Message-ID: <20031001190701.GB5092@pobox.com> References: <200310011828.h91IShW12068@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200310011828.h91IShW12068@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-10-01 | Carolyn Ostrander writes: > But in this case, Tushar's tales of urban decadence have challenged me to > test the likelihood that he tells about might actually take > place in a suave and happening joint like the Winded City, so - > > based on your reading of Tushar's stories, which is the most likely tour to > give me a taste of Chicago? Comeon, ladies and gents - belly up and > place your bets! I feel like a Cubs-cheering oaf with a beer gut From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 14:15:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91JFO21008056 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:15:24 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A7A1C1E600A5; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:13:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F5E71E600A4 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:13:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E6127@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:09:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12793721 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:09:43 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91J9hW20116 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:09:43 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h91J9g105879 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:09:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 52CFF16B4; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:09:42 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:09:42 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: imftatl Chicago neighborhoods Message-ID: <20031001190942.GC5092@pobox.com> References: <200310011828.h91IShW12068@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20031001190523.GB23362@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031001190523.GB23362@yoccoz.multinix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-10-01 | steph writes: > = based on your reading of Tushar's stories, which is the most likely tour > = to give me a taste of Chicago? Comeon, ladies and gents - belly > = up and place your bets! > > T'hell with his Chicago. Go visit my fountain. Do the Architectural one. An architectural fountain, or Th' Fountain of LUV. Your choice baby From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 14:31:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91JV021008257 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:31:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D03991E600A3; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:29:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 875D51E600A1 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:29:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E61B1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:25:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12794852 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:25:19 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91JPJW23028 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:25:19 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0018827E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:25:19 -0400 Message-Id: <200310011925.h91JPJW23028@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:25:19 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: my favorite polkas To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:45:17 -0700, Lynne Weber wrote: >> >There's some joke in here about having your "back >> to the waltz" but I >> haven't quite refined it. >> > >> >BrP >> > >> > >> > >> Isn't it Tushar who has his back up against the >> waltz? >> >> clo > >The polka is in his court. > Now now, let's not give a valse impression. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 14:33:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91JXs21008310 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:33:54 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8F0261E600A4; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:32:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ADE31E600A3 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:32:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0018829A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:28:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12795067 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:28:13 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91JSDW23588 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:28:13 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0018828F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:28:12 -0400 Message-Id: <200310011928.h91JSDW23588@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:28:12 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Subways To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:02:57 -0500, Tushar Samant wrote: >02003-10-01 | Lynne Weber writes: >> Yeah, but east side of London, east side of NYC, east >> side of St. Louis, east side of LA, east side of >> Boston, east side of every city in NJ. I fully admit >> to these "sides" not being citable, just my impression >> from what I've read and heard. > >All great port cities in the northern hemisphere have >their docks on the east side. > >Actually I just pulled this "theory" out MyAss[tm]. >But someone with a Ph.D. should be able to prove it... Portland, Seattle, San Francisco... clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 14:39:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91Jdr21008411 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:39:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C96F51E600A3; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:38:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F7F31E600A2 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:38:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001882C2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:34:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12795728 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:34:12 -0400 Received: from web20506.mail.yahoo.com (web20506.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h91JYBW25539 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:34:11 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 12:34:10 PDT Message-ID: <20031001193410.65606.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:34:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: imftatl Chicago neighborhoods To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200310011828.h91IShW12068@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Help! > based on your reading of Tushar's stories, which is > the most likely tour to > give me a taste of Chicago? Comeon, ladies > and gents - belly up and > place your bets! > > clo Ask T.S. for Jeannie's phone number. Tell her during which hours you can slip out, and you will probably have the time of your life. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 14:52:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91JqO21008525 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:52:24 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 084AA1E600A9; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:50:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EB5C1E600A5 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:50:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00188348@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:46:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12797144 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:46:42 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91JkgW28327 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:46:42 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018835B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:46:42 -0400 Message-Id: <200310011946.h91JkgW28327@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:46:42 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: imftatl Chicago neighborhoods To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:34:10 -0700, Lynne Weber wrote: >> Help! > >> based on your reading of Tushar's stories, which is >> the most likely tour to >> give me a taste of Chicago? Comeon, ladies >> and gents - belly up and >> place your bets! >> >> clo > >Ask T.S. for Jeannie's phone number. Tell her during >which hours you can slip out, and you will probably >have the time of your life. > Yeah yeah, and when I go to San Fran next year you'll tell me to look up Verdant for the same result. Just what kind of a loose woman do you think I am? I'm shocked, just shocked that you would even suggest such a thing! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 15:01:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91K1Q21008630 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:01:26 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D56711E600A6; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:59:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DB721E600A5 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:59:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0018838F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:55:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12797955 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:55:39 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91JtcW30235 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:55:38 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 8333F2B56A; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 483922B572 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:55:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: imftatl Chicago neighborhoods In-Reply-To: <200310011946.h91JkgW28327@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Yeah yeah, and when I go to San Fran next year you'll tell me to look up Please do not say "San Fran." TIA Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 15:04:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91K4Y21008662 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:04:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B00881E600A9; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:02:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D6AC1E600AA for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:02:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E62F0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:55:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12797917 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:55:03 -0400 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h91Jt1W30165 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:55:01 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 12:55:00 PDT Message-ID: <20031001195500.78629.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:55:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: imftatl Chicago neighborhoods To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200310011946.h91JkgW28327@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >> Help! > > > >> based on your reading of Tushar's stories, which > is > >> the most likely tour to > >> give me a taste of Chicago? Comeon, > ladies > >> and gents - belly up and > >> place your bets! > >> > >> clo > > > >Ask T.S. for Jeannie's phone number. Tell her > during > >which hours you can slip out, and you will probably > >have the time of your life. > > > > Yeah yeah, and when I go to San Fran next year > you'll tell me to look up > Verdant for the same result. Just what kind of a > loose woman do you think I > am? I'm shocked, just shocked that you would even > suggest such a thing! Okay, then! Stay away from Jeannie! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 15:04:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91K4Y21008660 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:04:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A6B8D1E600A5; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:02:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 763381E600A6 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:02:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E62BC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:50:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12797603 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:50:53 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91JorW29348 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:50:53 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0018836F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:50:52 -0400 Message-Id: <200310011950.h91JorW29348@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:50:52 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Subways To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 09:29:06 -1000, Michael E. Macmillan wrote: >On 1 Oct 2003 at 14:57, Paul Barfoot wrote: > >> look up the phrase "Upstate South Carolina" and see what you get > >Interesting. That has to be some ad man's concoction. I wonder when >it became current. It certainly wasn't thirty years ago. The term >seems to apply to what was, in those days of yore, called the >Piedmont. I'm afraid to look to see whether they're now calling the >low country downstate. Be happy if they're not yet calling it "downwind". clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 15:04:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91K4Y21008661 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:04:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A9A061E600A6; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:02:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 784941E600A9 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:02:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E62E1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:52:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12797747 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:52:12 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91JqBW29682 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:52:11 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h91JqB111580 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:52:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 10CE016B4; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:52:11 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:52:10 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Subways Message-ID: <20031001195210.GA13840@pobox.com> References: <200310011928.h91JSDW23588@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200310011928.h91JSDW23588@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-10-01 | Carolyn Ostrander writes: > On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:02:57 -0500, Tushar Samant wrote: > >02003-10-01 | Lynne Weber writes: > > >> Yeah, but east side of London, east side of NYC, east > >> side of St. Louis, east side of LA, east side of > >> Boston, east side of every city in NJ. I fully admit > >> to these "sides" not being citable, just my impression > >> from what I've read and heard. > > > >All great port cities in the northern hemisphere have > >their docks on the east side. > > > >Actually I just pulled this "theory" out MyAss[tm]. > >But someone with a Ph.D. should be able to prove it... > > Portland, Seattle, San Francisco... These are great cities? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 15:04:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91K4Y21008659 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:04:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A30121E600AC; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:02:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7473F1E600A5 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:02:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E6228@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:39:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12796222 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:39:40 -0400 Received: from mr10.verisignmail.com (vmmrnat.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.187]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91JdcW26618 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:39:38 -0400 Received: from ms4.verisignmail.com (ms4.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.177] (may be forged)) by mr10.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id AGE17134; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:31:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by ms4.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id ARZ46733; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:31:19 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 09:29:06 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Subways Reply-To: mem@noxiousweeds.net Message-ID: <3F7A9E62.14587.16C3DF@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 1 Oct 2003 at 14:57, Paul Barfoot wrote: > look up the phrase "Upstate South Carolina" and see what you get Interesting. That has to be some ad man's concoction. I wonder when it became current. It certainly wasn't thirty years ago. The term seems to apply to what was, in those days of yore, called the Piedmont. I'm afraid to look to see whether they're now calling the low country downstate. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 15:05:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91K5C21008673 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:05:12 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BD2651E600A6; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:03:33 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 904641E600A5 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:03:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E635B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:59:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12798670 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:59:31 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91JxUW31254 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:59:30 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h91JxU116821 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:59:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 2EAE116B4; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:59:30 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:59:30 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: imftatl Chicago neighborhoods Message-ID: <20031001195930.GC13840@pobox.com> References: <200310011946.h91JkgW28327@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-10-01 | Ann Borkin writes: > On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > > Yeah yeah, and when I go to San Fran next year you'll tell me to look up > > Please do not say "San Fran." > > TIA How about "Frisco"? adTHANKSvance From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 15:10:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91KA721008707 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:10:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4E8041E600A6; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:08:29 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C4451E600A3 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:08:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E637C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 16:04:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12799455 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 16:04:26 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91K4QW00537 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 16:04:26 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id BB9752B583; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:04:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A50D32B56F for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:04:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:04:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: imftatl Chicago neighborhoods In-Reply-To: <20031001195930.GC13840@pobox.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Tushar Samant wrote: > > > > Please do not say "San Fran." > > TIA > How about "Frisco"? I think an Indian saying "Frisco" would be kind of cute. Almost as cute as an Indian doing a polka! Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 15:16:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91KGV21008772 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:16:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AC4051E600A9; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:14:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78BA01E600A6 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:14:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E63A4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 16:10:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12799724 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 16:10:50 -0400 Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com (web20502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h91KAnW01333 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 16:10:49 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 13:10:48 PDT Message-ID: <20031001201048.51035.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:10:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: imftatl Chicago neighborhoods To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031001195930.GC13840@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > How about "Frisco"? > > MANY adTHANKSvance __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 15:21:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91KLJ21008802 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:21:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CE73B1E600A3; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:19:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 885611E600A2 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:19:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E63FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 16:15:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12800458 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 16:15:37 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91KFbW02370 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 16:15:37 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00188460@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 16:15:37 -0400 Message-Id: <200310012015.h91KFbW02370@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 16:15:37 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Subways To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:52:10 -0500, Tushar Samant wrote: >02003-10-01 | Carolyn Ostrander writes: >> On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:02:57 -0500, Tushar Samant wrote: >> >02003-10-01 | Lynne Weber writes: >> >> >> Yeah, but east side of London, east side of NYC, east >> >> side of St. Louis, east side of LA, east side of >> >> Boston, east side of every city in NJ. I fully admit >> >> to these "sides" not being citable, just my impression >> >> from what I've read and heard. >> > >> >All great port cities in the northern hemisphere have >> >their docks on the east side. >> > >> >Actually I just pulled this "theory" out MyAss[tm]. >> >But someone with a Ph.D. should be able to prove it... >> >> Portland, Seattle, San Francisco... >These are great cities? Are you impugning the interest value of the city in some capacity, or the importance of the port? All have been considered "great" port cities at some point in American history. What side of Japan is its "great" port on? I wonder whether a bias toward East Coast American cities as "great" might account for the "east side" claim? Which is the port side of Amsterdam? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 15:36:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91KaV21008920 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:36:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 286221E600A2; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:34:53 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA8631E6006B for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:34:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E64B3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 16:30:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12802144 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 16:30:50 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91KUoW05922 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 16:30:50 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h91KUn115746 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:30:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 54A2A16B4; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:30:49 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:30:49 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Subways Message-ID: <20031001203049.GA18083@pobox.com> References: <200310012015.h91KFbW02370@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200310012015.h91KFbW02370@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-10-01 | Carolyn Ostrander writes: > I wonder whether a bias toward East Coast American cities as > "great" might account for the "east side" claim? Interesting stuff ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 15:40:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91Kel21008960 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:40:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AABF31E600A6; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:39:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50F821E6006B for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:39:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E64E7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 16:35:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12802447 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 16:35:05 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91KZ4W06533 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 16:35:05 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h91KZ4119961 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:35:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 1BE6216B4; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:35:04 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:35:04 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: imftatl Chicago neighborhoods Message-ID: <20031001203504.GB18083@pobox.com> References: <20031001195930.GC13840@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-10-01 | Ann Borkin writes: > > > Please do not say "San Fran." > > > TIA > > How about "Frisco"? > > I think an Indian saying "Frisco" would be kind of cute. > > Almost as cute as an Indian doing a polka! Well I do neither of these things ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 16:00:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91L0d21009239 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 16:00:39 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D2D651E600A9; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:59:00 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2F781E600A6 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:59:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E65C4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 16:54:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12804073 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 16:54:58 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91KsvW09565 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 16:54:57 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h91Ksv105973 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:54:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 2793A16B4; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:54:57 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:54:57 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Subways Message-ID: <20031001205457.GC18083@pobox.com> References: <200310012015.h91KFbW02370@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200310012015.h91KFbW02370@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU So it seems that all "impugning" apart, Seattle is the only one place where the harbors are on the "west" side. Yet, it turns out that there is an immense land mass to its west, which however is not labelled "Seattle". The characteristic "hook" shape of a traditional seaport which protects it from west-to-east winds generally means that the main associated land mass is on the west, which is conventionally part of the city, i.e. is the "west" side, making the harbor itself the "east" side, with seedy lanes, dubious characters and what have you. Now, it would be interesting to know whether cities grew more on the west side of a river too--that would also need an explanation. Was "Eastcheap" actually on the east side on London in 1590, say? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 16:54:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91Lsd21009826 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 16:54:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B0CD31E600B6; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 16:53:00 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B3CE1E600B3 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 16:53:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E67BF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:48:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12808773 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:48:57 -0400 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91LmvW19016 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:48:57 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h91Lme7Q002040 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:48:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F7B4B90.6050308@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 16:48:00 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Subways References: <20031001183435.74988.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Paul Barfoot wrote: > >>re: Eastern section less favored - sez who ? I >>wanna see stats >> >>The east side of Syracuse is the nicest area >> >> >>re: Upstate - it's "Up" in relation to New York >>City. Illinois has "downstate" in relation to >>Chicago >> >>BrP >> > > Yeah, but east side of London, east side of NYC, east > side of St. Louis, east side of LA, east side of > Boston, east side of every city in NJ. I fully admit > to these "sides" not being citable, just my impression > from what I've read and heard. What's wrong with East Boston? -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 17:12:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91MCw21010132 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:12:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EC8FC1E600AE; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:11:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD3E1E6006A for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:11:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E6863@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:07:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12810294 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:07:16 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91M7FW21575 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:07:16 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.135.25]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031001220710.NAKP1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:07:10 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7B500F.410CE15B@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 17:07:11 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the real end of an era References: <20031001132914.81775.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > You sound delighted to be in your new home. May you > be bless. Yes! > And it doesn't matter where you vote, just > do it. But it *does* feel different in different places. I miss my old voting place. It better. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 17:13:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91MDP21010136 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:13:25 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 61A901E600AE; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:11:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3211C1E6006A for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:11:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E6846@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:07:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12810313 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:07:43 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91M7hW21601 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:07:43 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.135.25]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031001220738.NAQS1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:07:38 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7B502A.F8E6B5E9@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 17:07:38 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alyce's Cubs References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030930204956.05311f60@mail.istori.com> <20031001033405.GC8698@pobox.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20030930204956.05311f60@mail.istori.com> <5.1.1.5.2.20031001074338.00a56ec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > I'd rather go to Chicago for a baseball game than a stupid polka. You could do both. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 17:16:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91MGE21010188 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:16:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2840C1E600B3; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:14:35 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF2101E600AE for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:14:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E6866@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:10:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12810617 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:10:32 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91MAVW22126 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:10:31 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.135.25]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031001221026.NBXH1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:10:26 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7B50D2.2838FF95@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 17:10:26 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Subways References: <3f64141a23.41a233f641@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > > > Or is it the 1 and 2 that go up and down the west side? > > 1,2,3,9 (and A,C,E) all go up and down the west side. The B,D, and Q lines are partially on the west side. The west side is much better supplied with trains than the east. I remember noticing that when staying in the Pickwick Arms. I like the West Side better. The 2 doesn't call all the way up, does it? Doesn't it turn east somewhere not far above the park, while the 1 and 9 keep on going straight up? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 17:21:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91ML421010248 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:21:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ED1521E600B3; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:19:24 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC2D01E6006A for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:19:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0018888B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:15:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12810785 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:15:22 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91MFLW22669 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:15:21 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.135.25]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031001221516.NDYF1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:15:16 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7B51F4.AC4188F3@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 17:15:16 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Subways References: <20031001175046.9335.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Why is it the eastern sections of cities are less > favored in all aspects, than the west-north-south? I'm not sure about all the aspects you have in mind. The Upper East Side in NYC is favored with . I guess that's why they don't need as many subways -- they have chauffeurs and limousines. > > And why do we say "Upstate New York, but never > "upstate" any other state? Because no other state has a city like NYC at its bottom? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 17:34:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91MYw21010345 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:34:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3CFA21E600B6; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:33:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F7C01E6006A for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:33:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E6867@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:11:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12810642 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:11:35 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91MBZW22209 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:11:35 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.135.25]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031001221130.NCJE1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:11:30 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7B5112.E40E964B@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 17:11:30 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Are These People Trustworthy? References: <407b544aa3.44aa3407b5@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > > > time I invited Miles to meet me on top of the ESB at sunset on > > Dec. 17 > > I'm not Myles but I'll meet you there... On top of the ESB at sunset? Is this a ? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 17:34:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91MYw21010346 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:34:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3F4191E6006A; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:33:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1131F1E600B3 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:33:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E68B8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:21:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12811199 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:21:58 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91MLwW23711 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:21:58 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.135.25]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031001222153.NGQA1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:21:53 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7B5381.700219F4@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 17:21:53 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: HOTEL (Natalie?) References: <3F7AEADD.17591.A8AF430@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tony Harminc wrote: > > No not Hotel, but HOTEL. Is there somewhere out there on the net > where one can obtain recordings of the English language as it sounds > today, sounded n years ago, sounded (or might have sounded) n > centuries ago, etc. Surely someone must've produced such a set, from > OE through ME and towards today. Try this site: http://ebbs.english.vt.edu/hel/hel.html I think it has some links to sound files. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 17:34:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91MYw21010347 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:34:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 491391E600B3; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:33:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C801E600B4 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:33:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E68C1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:22:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12811278 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:22:56 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91MMuW23839 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:22:56 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.135.25]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031001222251.NHBA1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:22:51 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7B53BB.7751335B@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 17:22:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: HOTEL (Natalie?) References: <3F7AEADD.17591.A8AF430@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Here are some OE recordings: http://www.engl.virginia.edu/OE/Beowulf.Readings/Beowulf.Readings.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 17:42:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91MgY21010402 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:42:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9B81A1E600B4; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:40:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE3F1E600B3 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:40:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001888FF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:36:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12811935 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:36:52 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91MapW25266 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:36:51 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.74.122]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HM3NW302.80E for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:31:15 -0700 Message-ID: <3F7B59A4.95EF7736@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 15:48:04 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Election results Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Looks like it'll be The Governator. The Sacramento Bee is reporting that the California Democratic Party is soliciting funds for court challenges to next week's election. Me, I'm still waiting for the howls of outrage over Tom Daschle and Terry McAuliffe interfering in "state" politics. 8-) JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 18:00:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91N0L21010695 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:00:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C7C661E600BD; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:58:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99BC71E600B3 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:58:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E69D3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:54:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12813510 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:54:39 -0400 Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91MscW27917 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:54:38 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.14b.24b73cf6 (4426) for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:54:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <14b.24b73cf6.2cacb51d@aol.com> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:54:21 EDT Subject: Re: Subways To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/1/2003 2:16:17 PM, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: >Which is the port side of Amsterdam? FYI, Amsterdam isn't a port city; Rotterdam is. Just because no American ever learns geography in any of their schools, doesn't change the reality. :-{ Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 18:17:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91NHD21010871 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:17:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 040751E600C0; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:15:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA55C1E600BD for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:15:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E6A47@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:11:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12814519 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:11:31 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91NBVW30185 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:11:31 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00188A40@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:11:30 -0400 Message-Id: <200310012311.h91NBVW30185@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:11:30 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: imftatl Chicago neighborhoods To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:55:33 -0700, Ann Borkin wrote: >On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> Yeah yeah, and when I go to San Fran next year you'll tell me to look up > >Please do not say "San Fran." > I haven't San Fran, but just to show my heart is in the right place, I won't type it anymore either. SF it shall be, and my daughter and her SciFi friends can go pound salt. >TIA ? Transitory Intercranial A- (I forget) - ministrokes? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 18:22:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91NMO21010903 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:22:24 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6E8621E600C0; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:20:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D29B1E600BD for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:20:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E6A73@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:16:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12814771 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:16:41 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91NGfW30817 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:16:41 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00188A62@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:16:41 -0400 Message-Id: <200310012316.h91NGfW30817@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:16:41 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: the real end of an era To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:07:11 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Lynne Weber wrote: > >> You sound delighted to be in your new home. May you >> be bless. > >Yes! > >> And it doesn't matter where you vote, just >> do it. > >But it *does* feel different in different places. I miss my old voting >place. It better. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I agree that some voting places are more welcoming, and more democratic, than others. If, for instance, I dwelt in a section where some campaigning politician voted in the "privacy" afforded by an entourage of press corps members and security people, I'd feel very much less a part of the process than I do in a place where I recognize neighbors and we have talked about the local issues on the corner by the market. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 18:23:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91NNu21010933 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:23:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8EE651E600C0; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:22:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C7051E600BD for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:22:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E6A59@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:18:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12814810 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:18:13 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91NIDW30954 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:18:13 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E6A67@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:18:13 -0400 Message-Id: <200310012318.h91NIDW30954@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:18:13 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Alyce's Cubs To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:07:38 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty Clark wrote: > >> I'd rather go to Chicago for a baseball game than a stupid polka. > >You could do both. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) OK, let's meet for a ball game, but I insist that if we go to a polka party, it be , with the older band Tushar described, or some similar. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 18:26:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91NQT21010960 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:26:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 20A911E600C1; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:24:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6F631E600BD for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:24:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00188A64@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:20:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12814962 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:20:47 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91NKlW31332 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:20:47 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00188A77@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:20:46 -0400 Message-Id: <200310012320.h91NKlW31332@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:20:46 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Subways To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:54:21 EDT, Theo Groothof wrote: >In a message dated 10/1/2003 2:16:17 PM, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: > >>Which is the port side of Amsterdam? > >FYI, Amsterdam isn't a port city; Rotterdam is. Just because no American ever >learns geography in any of their schools, doesn't change the reality. :-{ >Theo Theo, my profuse apologies. I knew as soon as it left my keyboard that I had it wrong; but I had a weakminded moment and couldn't think quickly of the correct city - and then the phone rang, and I didn't get back to it. Please tell me, on what side of the city is the port in Rotterdam? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 18:56:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91Nuf21011319 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:56:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 11E041E600C7; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:55:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE4A91E600C5 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:55:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E6B00@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:50:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12816381 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:50:52 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91NopW02200 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:50:51 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.135.25]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031001235046.OSNZ1781.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:50:46 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7B6856.6C5CEA98@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 18:50:46 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the real end of an era References: <200310012316.h91NGfW30817@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >But it *does* feel different in different places. I miss my old voting > >place. It better. > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > I agree that some voting places are more welcoming, and more > democratic, than others. If, for instance, I dwelt in a section where some > campaigning politician voted in the "privacy" afforded by an entourage of > press corps members and security people, I'd feel very much less a part of > the process than I do in a place where I recognize neighbors and we have > talked about the local issues on the corner by the market. I haven't noticed that places feel any more or less democratic, and I can't imagine going to vote and not seeing people I know. But there was something about the smaller physical environment in my old place -- the basement of the Electric Department -- and the general ambience that I preferred. Maybe, like Bethany, I liked the fact that it was more black than white, although I'm not sure why. I also liked parking in the little patch of weeds across the street, as opposed to a gravely place near the fire station where I now vote. The electric department's basement had a pleasant, shabby look. The fire station is too looking. Or something. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 18:57:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91Nvj21011335 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:57:45 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 11D911E600C7; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:56:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D90BA1E600C5 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:56:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E6B12@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:52:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12816442 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:52:03 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91Nq2W02373 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:52:02 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.135.25]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031001235157.OTEZ1781.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:51:57 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7B689E.640431B9@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 18:51:58 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alyce's Cubs References: <200310012318.h91NIDW30954@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > OK, let's meet for a ball game, but I insist that if we go to a polka party, > it be , with the older band Tushar described, or some similar. Sounds good to me. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 18:58:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h91NwL21011345 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:58:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 667871E600C7; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:56:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 394CE1E600C5 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:56:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E6B25@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:52:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12816468 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:52:38 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91NqcW02430 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:52:38 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.135.25]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031001235232.OTOC1781.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:52:32 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7B68C1.981D9AA5@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 18:52:33 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Subways References: <200310012320.h91NKlW31332@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > tell me, on what side of the city is the port in Rotterdam? The seaside. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 19:05:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9205721011441 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:05:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D286A1E600CC; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:03:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A111A1E600CB for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:03:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E6B2A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:59:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12816339 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:59:25 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h91NnPW02098 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:49:25 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h91NnGAR032738 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:49:20 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:49:21 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: HOTEL (Natalie?) In-Reply-To: <3F7AEADD.17591.A8AF430@localhost> Message-ID: References: <3F7AEADD.17591.A8AF430@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Tony Harminc wrote: >No not Hotel, but HOTEL. Is there somewhere out there on the net >where one can obtain recordings of the English language as it sounds >today, sounded n years ago, sounded (or might have sounded) n >centuries ago, etc. Surely someone must've produced such a set, from >OE through ME and towards today. I have old LPs - but do not know about net resources. Not Natalie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 19:58:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h920ww21012042 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:58:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 454401E60055; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:57:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1468C1E6001B for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:57:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00188C5A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:53:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12819613 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:53:15 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h920rEW09374 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:53:14 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[66.31.143.74]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003100200530801300fsv6pe> (Authid: adamh1); Thu, 2 Oct 2003 00:53:08 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Found It Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:53:06 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <3F7AA3DF.F0D3120@maynor.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I think that about pretty much everything WCW wrote: NEBF. But then > his wheelbarrows and plums and things do seem to sit on little shelves > in my head for some reason. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I did love those WCW parodies that La Borkina posted a few weeks ago. --Adam adamh1@comcast.net proud supplier of yet another content-free post From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 20:11:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h921BG21012238 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:11:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D17491E600C8; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:09:35 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A394D1E60055 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:09:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E6C94@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:05:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12820149 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:05:32 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9215WW10972 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:05:32 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[66.31.143.74]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003100201052601300fsv7je> (Authid: adamh1); Thu, 2 Oct 2003 01:05:26 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Cc: Subject: RE: Alyce's Cubs Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:05:24 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031001074338.00a56ec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Subject: Alyce's Cubs > > > I wish she could have seen them last night! Speaking of whom, I just got back the pictures from the roll of film I had in my camera when Marie and I visited Alyce on her birthday. There's a great one of her - better than the digital ones I took. I was kind of shocked to see it as I'd forgotten taking it. http://adamhartfield1937.fotopic.net/photo.php?id=1345711 --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 20:28:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h921SF21012348 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:28:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B5D8D1E600C8; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:26:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B95B1E60055 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:26:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E6CC9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:22:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12820821 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:22:31 -0400 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h921MVW12608 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:22:31 -0400 Received: from [68.17.146.146] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 18:22:30 PDT Message-ID: <20031002012230.96482.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:22:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Subways To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F7B4B90.6050308@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Yeah, but east side of London, east side of NYC, > east > > side of St. Louis, east side of LA, east side of > > Boston, east side of every city in NJ. I fully > admit > > to these "sides" not being citable, just my > impression > > from what I've read and heard. > > > What's wrong with East Boston? Nothing except it's on the east side. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 20:33:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h921Xu21012399 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:33:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 97E841E600C8; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:32:15 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6906B1E60055 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:32:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E6CDC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:28:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12821028 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:28:12 -0400 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h921SCW13214 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:28:12 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h921Rs7Q007624 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:27:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F7B7EEF.8090909@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 20:27:11 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Subways References: <20031002012230.96482.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: >>>Yeah, but east side of London, east side of NYC, >>> >>east >> >>>side of St. Louis, east side of LA, east side of >>>Boston, east side of every city in NJ. I fully >>> >>admit >> >>>to these "sides" not being citable, just my >>> >>impression >> >>>from what I've read and heard. >>> >> >>What's wrong with East Boston? >> > > Nothing except it's on the east side. You're talkin' out your ass. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 20:36:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h921ag21012433 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:36:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3EFD71E600C8; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:35:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BF551E60055 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:35:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00188CE5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:30:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12821195 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:30:59 -0400 Received: from web20512.mail.yahoo.com (web20512.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h921UwW13572 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:30:58 -0400 Received: from [68.17.146.146] by web20512.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 18:30:57 PDT Message-ID: <20031002013057.4251.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:30:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: imftatl Chicago neighborhoods To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200310012311.h91NBVW30185@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >TIA > > ? Transitory Intercranial A- (I forget) - > ministrokes? ^^^Aneurysms > > clo __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 20:39:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h921dF21012460 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:39:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 512B31E600C8; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:37:35 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 211861E60055 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:37:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E6CFE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:33:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12821389 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:33:32 -0400 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h921XWW13924 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:33:32 -0400 Received: from [68.17.146.146] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 18:33:31 PDT Message-ID: <20031002013331.9461.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:33:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Subways To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200310012320.h91NKlW31332@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Theo, my profuse apologies. I knew as soon as it > left my keyboard that I had > it wrong; but I had a weakminded moment and couldn't > think quickly of the > correct city - and then the phone rang, and I didn't > get back to it. Please > tell me, on what side of the city is the port in > Rotterdam? > > clo Starboard right, port left:-] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 20:46:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h921kF21012522 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:46:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 913301E600C8; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:44:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F37C1E60055 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:44:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E6D36@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:40:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12821631 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:40:31 -0400 Received: from web20512.mail.yahoo.com (web20512.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h921eVW14494 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:40:31 -0400 Received: from [68.17.146.146] by web20512.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 18:40:30 PDT Message-ID: <20031002014030.7481.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:40:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Alyce's Cubs To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU There's a great > one of her - better than the digital ones I took. I > was kind of shocked to > see it as I'd forgotten taking it. > Behind Alyce on the shelf are an elephant, a hippo and a bear. Any special significance? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 20:52:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h921qs21012581 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:52:54 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 22C481E60055; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:51:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E90741E6001B for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:51:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E6D3E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:47:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12822003 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:47:11 -0400 Received: from web20501.mail.yahoo.com (web20501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.136]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h921lAW15315 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:47:10 -0400 Received: from [68.17.146.146] by web20501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 18:47:09 PDT Message-ID: <20031002014709.3208.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:47:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: imftatl Chicago neighborhoods To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031001203504.GB18083@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > 02003-10-01 | Ann Borkin writes: > > > > Please do not say "San Fran." > > > > TIA > > > How about "Frisco"? > > > > I think an Indian saying "Frisco" would be kind of > cute. > > > > Almost as cute as an Indian doing a polka! > > Well I do neither of these things ... Well, the polka might be fun, but please do not offend the Friscans. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 20:53:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h921rW21012587 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:53:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F0F8D1E60055; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:51:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2C1C1E6001B for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:51:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E6D63@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:47:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12822048 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:47:48 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h921liW15379 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:47:44 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[66.31.143.74]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003100201473801300fsv9be> (Authid: adamh1); Thu, 2 Oct 2003 01:47:38 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Alyce's Cubs Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:47:36 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20031002014030.7481.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Behind Alyce on the shelf are an elephant, a hippo and > a bear. Any special significance? I'm sure there was - but what exactly, I have no idea. :( --Adam adamh1@comcast.net From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 20:55:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h921ta21012601 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:55:36 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C2E7E1E600C8; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:53:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E7081E60055 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:53:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E6D64@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:49:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12822187 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:49:52 -0400 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h921npW15625 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:49:51 -0400 Received: from [68.17.146.146] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 18:49:49 PDT Message-ID: <20031002014949.15117.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:49:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Alyce's Cubs To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Adam Hartfield wrote: > > Behind Alyce on the shelf are an elephant, a hippo > and > > a bear. Any special significance? > > I'm sure there was - but what exactly, I have no > idea. :( > > --Adam > adamh1@comcast.net Sorry, it was not a bear, but a lion. I just thought you might know if they had a special meaning to her. Thanks. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 21:02:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9222G21012656 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:02:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5D40A1E600C8; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:00:35 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B3A71E6001B for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:00:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E6D73@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:56:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12822343 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:56:32 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h921uPW16188 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:56:25 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h921uNW1009736 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:56:23 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h921uLWq009689; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:56:22 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031001185720.00a68530@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 18:57:38 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Alyce's Cubs In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031001074338.00a56ec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:05 PM 10/1/2003 -0400, Adam Hartfield wrote: > > Subject: Alyce's Cubs > > > > > > I wish she could have seen them last night! > >Speaking of whom, I just got back the pictures from the roll of film I had >in my camera when Marie and I visited Alyce on her birthday. There's a great >one of her - better than the digital ones I took. I was kind of shocked to >see it as I'd forgotten taking it. > >http://adamhartfield1937.fotopic.net/photo.php?id=1345711 I want that sundae! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 21:07:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9227R21012793 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:07:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A48571E600C8; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:05:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72B2F1E6001B for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:05:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E6D88@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:01:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12822534 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:01:43 -0400 Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.4]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9221hW16743 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:01:43 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HM300DV2XN1KM@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 22:01:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.24] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 01 Oct 2003 21:58:16 -0400 Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 21:58:16 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Subways To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <700506dcb1.6dcb170050@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I'm not sure about all the aspects you have in mind. The Upper East > Side in NYC is favored with . I guess that's > why they > don't need as many subways -- they have chauffeurs and limousines. Actually, last I heard they are actually going to break ground on the Second Avenue subway line (again after 85 years or so) soon. > > > > And why do we say "Upstate New York, but never > > "upstate" any other state? > > Because no other state has a city like NYC at its bottom? Exactly. But we said "upstate" in PA too. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 21:11:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h922Bp21012877 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:11:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 29F181E600C8; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:10:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7B251E6001B for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:10:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E6D8F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:06:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12822636 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:06:08 -0400 Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h92268W17253 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:06:08 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HM300JY4XU75W@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 22:06:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.24] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 01 Oct 2003 22:02:44 -0400 Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 22:02:44 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: imftatl Chicago neighborhoods To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <6d13773af2.73af26d137@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >TIA > > ? Transitory Intercranial A- (I forget) - ministrokes? I think you meant transient ischemic attack... Otherwise, the TIA above probably meant "thanks in advance". Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 21:19:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h922JT21013190 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:19:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6DDD31E600C8; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:17:48 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 395431E6001B for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:17:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00188E01@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:13:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12823250 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:13:34 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h922DYW18347 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:13:34 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.135.25]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031002021329.GMBH1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:13:29 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7B89C9.E8E18342@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 21:13:29 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alyce's Cubs References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield wrote: > http://adamhartfield1937.fotopic.net/photo.php?id=1345711 Good picture. In a way that seems like long, long ago but in other ways like no time ago. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 21:20:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h922Kg21013209 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:20:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B8E171E600C8; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:19:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B43E1E6001B for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:19:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E6DEA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:14:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12823303 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:14:58 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h922EwW18476 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:14:58 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.135.25]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031002021452.GMOH1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:14:52 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7B8A1D.9CFEAE2F@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 21:14:53 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Subways References: <20031002013331.9461.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > tell me, on what side of the city is the port in > > Rotterdam? > > > > clo > > Starboard right, port left:-] And since starboard is green and port is red, you simply look for red light to find the port. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 21:48:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h922me21014610 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:48:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 624421E600D4; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:46:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 349E51E600C8 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:46:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E6E77@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:42:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12824938 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:42:56 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h922guW22477 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:42:56 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00188E9E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:42:55 -0400 Message-Id: <200310020242.h922guW22477@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:42:56 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Subways To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:14:53 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Lynne Weber wrote: > >> > tell me, on what side of the city is the port in >> > Rotterdam? >> > >> > clo >> >> Starboard right, port left:-] > >And since starboard is green and port is red, you simply look for red >light to find the port. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Pour a glass for me, too! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 21:54:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h922sH21014856 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:54:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 13E811E600D4; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:52:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9B461E600C8 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:52:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E6EBD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:48:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12825310 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:48:33 -0400 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h922mWW23149 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:48:32 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1e7.10d18f7d (16930) for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:48:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1e7.10d18f7d.2cacebef@aol.com> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:48:15 EDT Subject: Re: Subways To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/1/2003 5:21:15 PM, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: >Please >tell me, on what side of the city is the port in Rotterdam? > I forgive you ;-} but in all honestly, we don't refer to sides in any of the cities. This is strictly some kind of american habit, or perhaps english too, but I never lived there so I don't know. I lived in Rotterdam but the germans bombed it in 1940, and my mother had a sister living in The Hague, so we moved there. My parents were both born in Amsterdam, but moved sometime during the thirties. So that's were I was born and met my ex, before he came to the USA. Anything else you want to know? Just kidding, of course! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 21:59:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h922x521015724 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:59:05 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1A59B1E600D5; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:57:24 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF9621E600D4 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:57:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E6ED3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:53:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12825776 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:53:12 -0400 Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h922rCW23873 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:53:12 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1dc.11c25f07 (16930) for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:53:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1dc.11c25f07.2caced0e@aol.com> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:53:02 EDT Subject: Re: Subways To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/1/2003 5:53:12 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >> tell me, on what side of the city is the port in Rotterdam? > >The seaside. > Actually is on a river harbor side. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 22:03:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9233b21015944 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:03:37 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0283F1E600D5; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:01:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2E211E600D4 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:01:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00188F2E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:57:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12826264 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:57:52 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h922vqW24301 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:57:52 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h922voW1006638 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:57:50 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h922vnWq006585; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:57:49 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031001195841.00a68610@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 19:59:05 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Subways In-Reply-To: <200310020242.h922guW22477@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:42 PM 10/1/2003 -0400, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >And since starboard is green and port is red, you simply look for red > >light to find the port. > > > >-- > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > >Pour a glass for me, too! >clo I'm having white. Cheers! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 22:04:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9234t21015985 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:04:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 310331E600D5; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:03:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 035701E600D4 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:03:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E6F2A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:59:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12826468 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:59:11 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h922xAW24539 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:59:10 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h922x9W1007820 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:59:09 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h922x8Wq007801 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:59:09 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031001195944.00a6c8c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 20:00:24 -0700 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: So, clo Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What did you get for your birthday? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 22:08:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9238N21016060 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:08:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E02061E600D5; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:06:42 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B14D71E600D4 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:06:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E6F85@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 23:02:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12827069 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 23:02:40 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9232dW25164 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 23:02:39 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00188F78@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 23:02:39 -0400 Message-Id: <200310020302.h9232dW25164@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 23:02:39 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Subways To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:48:15 EDT, Theo Groothof wrote: >In a message dated 10/1/2003 5:21:15 PM, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: > >>Please >>tell me, on what side of the city is the port in Rotterdam? >> >I forgive you ;-} but in all honestly, we don't refer to sides in any of the >cities. This is strictly some kind of american habit, or perhaps english too, >but I never lived there so I don't know. >I lived in Rotterdam but the germans bombed it in 1940, and my mother had a >sister living in The Hague, so we moved there. >My parents were both born in Amsterdam, but moved sometime during the >thirties. So that's were I was born and met my ex, before he came to the USA. Neat. Thanks for sharing this much. I deduce from the little I have learned that you have lived a very interesting life. >Anything else you want to know? Just kidding, of course! >Theo Just this - Were the docks north, south, east, or west of the city? But I can look it up easily. Tomorrow. I need sleep right now! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 22:19:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h923Jl21016228 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:19:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7D9651E600D5; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:18:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B0081E600D4 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:18:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00188FAD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 23:14:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12827521 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 23:14:03 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h923E3W26334 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 23:14:03 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00188FA4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 23:14:02 -0400 Message-Id: <200310020314.h923E3W26334@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 23:14:03 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: So, clo To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:00:24 -0700, Betty wrote: >What did you get for your birthday? That's a funny thing. I haven't gotten, or thought about getting, presents on my birthday from friends for a long long time - since I was 16, maybe. And I have carefully kept my bday hidden at work to avoid the embarrassment of being sung to, etc. Suddenly this year - bingo - "death by chocolate" at work; dinner party, chessecake, and an embarrassment of riches: clothing picture frame "Poetry Speaks", which I have been debating about sneaking into the grocery budget for about a month now. and a slew of birthday wishes. Thanks, wordslers! Whew. I have to do this party thing more! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 22:31:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h923Vj21016511 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:31:45 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 014641E600E0; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:30:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3E9D1E600D7 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:30:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E716A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 23:26:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12831018 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 23:22:40 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h923MeW28072 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 23:22:40 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h923MdHL009959 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:22:39 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h923MajD009923; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:22:37 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031001202321.00a6c5b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 20:23:52 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: So, clo In-Reply-To: <200310020314.h923E3W26334@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:14 PM 10/1/2003 -0400, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >Whew. I have to do this party thing more! >clo Yeah! You can start throwing your own. Those are fun. Night, Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 1 22:35:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h923Z821016548 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:35:08 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5F6CA1E600D7; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:33:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31CC21E600D5 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:33:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E7186@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 23:29:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12831286 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 23:29:24 -0400 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h923TOW28794 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 23:29:24 -0400 Received: from [68.17.146.146] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 20:29:23 PDT Message-ID: <20031002032923.83847.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:29:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: So, clo To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200310020314.h923E3W26334@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Suddenly this year - bingo - "death by chocolate" at > work; dinner party, > chessecake, and an embarrassment of riches: > clothing > picture frame > "Poetry Speaks", which I have been debating about > sneaking into the grocery > budget for about a month now. and a slew of birthday > wishes. Thanks, wordslers! > > > Whew. I have to do this party thing more! > clo As Evelyn observed, you deserved it. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 02:26:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h927Qf21018953 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 02:26:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F309E1E6010D; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 02:24:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C31201E60100 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 02:24:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E7834@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 3:20:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12844169 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 03:20:55 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h927KtW23114 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 03:20:55 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h927Ks106570 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 02:20:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id BF35F16B4; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 02:20:54 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 02:20:54 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Subways Message-ID: <20031002072054.GA2863@pobox.com> References: <20031002012230.96482.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> <3F7B7EEF.8090909@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F7B7EEF.8090909@swbell.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-10-01 | Rita Chapman writes: > >>What's wrong with East Boston? > >> > > > >Nothing except it's on the east side. > > > You're talkin' out your ass. Please ... call it "West End" ... like all well mannered people From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 02:29:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h927TP21018965 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 02:29:25 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F09AC1E6010D; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 02:27:42 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB4A21E60100 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 02:27:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E7827@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 3:23:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12844199 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 03:23:39 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h927NdW23269 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 03:23:39 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h927Nd108112 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 02:23:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 007EC16B4; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 02:23:38 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 02:23:38 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: imftatl Chicago neighborhoods Message-ID: <20031002072338.GB2863@pobox.com> References: <6d13773af2.73af26d137@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6d13773af2.73af26d137@optonline.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-10-01 | Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> writes: > > >TIA > > > > ? Transitory Intercranial A- (I forget) - ministrokes? > > I think you meant transient ischemic attack... > > Otherwise, the TIA above probably meant "thanks in advance". Nice lookup! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 03:46:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h928kK21019619 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 03:46:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8612A1E60023; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 03:44:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 598EF1E60022 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 03:44:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E7947@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 4:40:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12846711 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 04:40:34 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h928eXW29503 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 04:40:33 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h928eWRP025075 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 10:40:32 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h928eVHi025073 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 10:40:31 +0200 Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 10:40:31 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: imftatl Chicago neighborhoods Message-ID: <20031002084031.GA25060@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200310011828.h91IShW12068@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20031001190701.GB5092@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031001190701.GB5092@pobox.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = I feel like a Cubs-cheering oaf with a beer gut Sure. All you need is a hat and a pennant. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 04:13:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h929Df21019839 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 04:13:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6E7B81E60022; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 04:10:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40A791E60019 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 04:10:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001897DF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 5:06:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12848018 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 05:06:35 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9296YW31785 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 05:06:34 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h9296WRP025110 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 11:06:32 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h9296WwM025108 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 11:06:32 +0200 Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 11:06:32 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Subways Message-ID: <20031002090632.GB25060@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200310012015.h91KFbW02370@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200310012015.h91KFbW02370@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = I wonder whether a bias toward East Coast American cities as "great" might = account for the "east side" claim? Which is the port side of Amsterdam? = = clo Traditionally the port was to the north of the city. The current port is on the NW side of the city, in an industrial area completely separate from anything. The NE side of the city is the traditionally seedy sailor zone - that's where the red light district is. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 04:23:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h929ND21019892 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 04:23:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BE5881E600FE; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 04:21:29 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C96A1E60031 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 04:21:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E7A08@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 5:17:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12848265 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 05:17:26 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h929HPW32639 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 05:17:26 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h929HORP025130 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 11:17:24 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h929HNNZ025128 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 11:17:23 +0200 Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 11:17:23 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Subways Message-ID: <20031002091723.GC25060@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <14b.24b73cf6.2cacb51d@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <14b.24b73cf6.2cacb51d@aol.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof: = In a message dated 10/1/2003 2:16:17 PM, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: = = >Which is the port side of Amsterdam? = = FYI, Amsterdam isn't a port city; Rotterdam is. Just because no American ever = learns geography in any of their schools, doesn't change the reality. :-{ = Theo Of course Amsterdam is a port city, it's just not THE PORT CITY. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 04:30:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h929UW21019961 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 04:30:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 09D3B1E600FE; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 04:28:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB9D81E60031 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 04:28:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E7A23@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 5:24:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12848511 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 05:24:45 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h929OiW00967 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 05:24:44 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h929OhRP025149 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 11:24:43 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h929Ogoj025147 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 11:24:42 +0200 Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 11:24:42 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Subways Message-ID: <20031002092442.GD25060@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <1e7.10d18f7d.2cacebef@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1e7.10d18f7d.2cacebef@aol.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof: = In a message dated 10/1/2003 5:21:15 PM, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: = = >Please = >tell me, on what side of the city is the port in Rotterdam? = > = I forgive you ;-} but in all honestly, we don't refer to sides in any of the = cities. This is strictly some kind of american habit, or perhaps english too, = but I never lived there so I don't know. Sides, no. But parts of A'dam are definitely referred to with direction. Centrum, Noord, Zuid, Oost, West, Zuid Oost. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 05:59:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92AxT21020637 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 05:59:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E097A1E6010D; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 05:57:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEB241E60093 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 05:57:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E7B64@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 6:53:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12850982 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 06:53:41 -0400 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h92AreW08638 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 06:53:41 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h92Ard1R019094 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 03:53:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F7C037A.8050005@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 05:52:43 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Subways References: <20031002013331.9461.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> <3F7B8A1D.9CFEAE2F@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Lynne Weber wrote: > > >>>tell me, on what side of the city is the port in >>>Rotterdam? >>> >>>clo >>> >>Starboard right, port left:-] >> > > And since starboard is green and port is red, you simply look for red > light to find the port. Only if you are returning to harbor. It's the opposite on the way out. Red Right Return. And what constitutes "harbor" varies depending upon what waterway you're on. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l*words-l**GTOAL*-COM@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 07:24:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92COo21021433 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 07:24:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 286E51E60099; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 07:23:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB46F1E60063 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 07:23:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E7C6A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 8:19:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12853419 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 08:19:02 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h92CJ2W05854 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 08:19:02 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.160.103]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031002121857.ZWZJ1821.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 08:18:57 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7C17B1.816DE6EE@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 07:18:58 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Subways References: <1dc.11c25f07.2caced0e@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > Actually is on a river harbor side. Theo Which of course means that Amsterdam could also be a port. :-) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 07:26:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92CQJ21021467 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 07:26:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EA3A71E60099; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 07:24:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD9C31E60063 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 07:24:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E7C64@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 8:20:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12853519 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 08:20:31 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h92CKVW06137 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 08:20:31 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 02 Oct 2003 08:20:31 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 08:20:05 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: So, clo Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h92CQJ21021467 Yes indeedy! It was a wonderful party. It was great to see clo's parents again. It had been close to 40 years since I had seen them - and it was great to meet some of clo's friends I had never met before. Clo knows interesting people. BrP >>> clostran@SYR.EDU 10/01/03 11:14PM >>> Whew. I have to do this party thing more! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 07:27:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92CR621021479 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 07:27:06 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EF1DC1E6009E; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 07:25:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C206B1E60099 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 07:25:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E7C6A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 8:21:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12853569 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 08:21:18 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h92CLIW06268 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 08:21:18 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.160.103]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031002122113.ZXWV1821.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 08:21:13 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7C1839.8F1E6397@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 07:21:13 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Subways References: <200310012015.h91KFbW02370@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20031002090632.GB25060@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > sailor zone - that's where the red light > district is. Told you. Sailors looking for the red light since that means port. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 07:29:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92CTi21021486 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 07:29:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0E4F01E6009E; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 07:28:00 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D147E1E60099 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 07:27:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E7C63@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 8:23:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12853674 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 08:23:56 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h92CNuW06714 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 08:23:56 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.160.103]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031002122351.ZYYQ1821.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 08:23:51 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7C18D7.D9E98159@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 07:23:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Subways References: <20031002013331.9461.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> <3F7B8A1D.9CFEAE2F@maynor.net> <3F7C037A.8050005@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > Only if you are returning to harbor. It's the opposite on > the way out. Red Right Return. And what constitutes > "harbor" varies depending upon what waterway you're on. I'm confused. The boats I've been intimate with never changed their light colors. Green was always starboard and red always port. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 07:34:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92CYR21021555 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 07:34:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C08041E60091; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 07:32:42 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C6B1E60029 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 07:32:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E7C88@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 8:28:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12854009 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 08:28:39 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h92CSdW07777 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 08:28:39 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.160.103]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031002122834.AVU1821.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 08:28:34 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7C19F2.F1266DCE@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 07:28:34 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Subways References: <20031002013331.9461.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> <3F7B8A1D.9CFEAE2F@maynor.net> <3F7C037A.8050005@swbell.net> <3F7C18D7.D9E98159@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > I'm confused. The boats I've been intimate with never changed their > light colors. Green was always starboard and red always port. I've also noticed that airplanes use that same color scheme. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 07:41:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92Cf221021650 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 07:41:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BF9371E60099; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 07:39:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EB441E60091 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 07:39:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E7CDE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 8:35:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12854649 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 08:35:14 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h92CZEi09726 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 08:35:14 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 02 Oct 2003 08:35:14 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 08:34:40 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Subways Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h92Cf221021650 I hope, however, that the boats you were intimate with changed their orientation to the harbor's lights. Otherwise, you would be permanently out to sea. BrP >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 10/02/03 08:23AM >>> Rita Chapman wrote: > Only if you are returning to harbor. It's the opposite on > the way out. Red Right Return. And what constitutes > "harbor" varies depending upon what waterway you're on. I'm confused. The boats I've been intimate with never changed their light colors. Green was always starboard and red always port. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 07:52:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92CqM21021779 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 07:52:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BC6B91E60091; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 07:50:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CB651E60029 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 07:50:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E7D31@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 8:46:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12855551 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 08:46:34 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h92CkXi12231 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 08:46:34 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h92CkWRP025673 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 14:46:32 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h92CkVPW025671 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 14:46:31 +0200 Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 14:46:31 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Subways Message-ID: <20031002124631.GA25665@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200310012015.h91KFbW02370@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20031002090632.GB25060@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3F7C1839.8F1E6397@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F7C1839.8F1E6397@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor: = steph wrote: = > sailor zone - that's where the red light = > district is. = = Told you. Sailors looking for the red light since that means port. = Ah, this explains much! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 07:56:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92Cup21021786 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 07:56:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 69B9F1E60091; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 07:55:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 395E51E60029 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 07:55:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E7D56@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 8:51:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12855812 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 08:51:03 -0400 Received: from web20509.mail.yahoo.com (web20509.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.144]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h92Cp2i13439 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 08:51:02 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20509.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 02 Oct 2003 05:51:01 PDT Message-ID: <20031002125101.86211.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 05:51:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Subways To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F7C037A.8050005@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Only if you are returning to harbor. It's > the opposite on > the way out. Red Right Return. And what > constitutes > "harbor" varies depending upon what waterway you're > on. > I believe Right Red Returning was one of the first phrases I learned, as a child. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 07:59:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92Cxn21021794 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 07:59:49 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 26F471E60091; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 07:58:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9E1D1E60029 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 07:58:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E7D5A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 8:54:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12856159 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 08:54:00 -0400 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h92Cs0i14573 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 08:54:00 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 02 Oct 2003 05:54:00 PDT Message-ID: <20031002125400.60487.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 05:54:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Subways To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F7C18D7.D9E98159@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I'm confused. The boats I've been intimate with > never changed their > light colors. Green was always starboard and red > always port. The lights do not change. The position of the ship does. So what is on your port side on your way out, is on your starboard side on your way in. Thus, POSH. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 08:01:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92D1f21021820 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 08:01:41 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ACC021E60099; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 07:59:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A9791E60091 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 07:59:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E7D89@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 8:55:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12856278 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 08:55:45 -0400 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h92Ctii14915 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 08:55:44 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 02 Oct 2003 05:55:43 PDT Message-ID: <20031002125543.48244.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 05:55:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Subways To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Paul Barfoot wrote: > I hope, however, that the boats you were intimate > with changed their orientation to the harbor's > lights. Otherwise, you would be permanently out to > sea. > > BrP Hmm. Well, yes. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 08:09:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92D9Y21021936 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 08:09:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DDCB81E6009E; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 08:07:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC7111E60091 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 08:07:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E7DC6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 9:03:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12857151 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 09:03:46 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h92D3ki16607 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 09:03:46 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 02 Oct 2003 09:03:46 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 09:03:15 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Subways Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h92D9Y21021936 Now you've done it! I'll have an earworm all day: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea. You and I, you and I, oh, how happy we'll be. When each wave comes a-rollin' in, we duck or swim. And we'll float and fool around the water. Over and under and then up for air. Pa is rich, Ma is rich, so, now what do we care. I like to be beside your side, beside the sea, beside the seaside by the beautiful sea BrP >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 10/01/03 07:52PM >>> Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > tell me, on what side of the city is the port in Rotterdam? The seaside. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 09:42:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92Egb21022775 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 09:42:37 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E8C501E600B0; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 09:40:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B6A1E600A7 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 09:40:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E8277@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 10:36:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12866944 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 10:36:48 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h92Eali11307 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 10:36:48 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.74.92]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HM4WAR02.K3K for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 07:30:27 -0700 Message-ID: <3F7C37CE.5920D6DC@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 07:35:58 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Subways References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: > Now you've done it! > > I'll have an earworm all day: And I'll be thinking of "Some Like It Hot" all day now, you rat. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 09:45:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92Ejq21022806 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 09:45:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7F4891E600B9; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 09:44:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 526491E600B5 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 09:44:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E82AA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 10:40:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12867435 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 10:40:03 -0400 Received: from web20513.mail.yahoo.com (web20513.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h92Ee2i12921 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 10:40:03 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20513.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 02 Oct 2003 07:40:01 PDT Message-ID: <20031002144001.62032.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 07:40:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Subways To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F7C37CE.5920D6DC@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- John Williams wrote: > Paul Barfoot wrote: > > > Now you've done it! > > > > I'll have an earworm all day: > > And I'll be thinking of "Some Like It Hot" all > day now, you rat. > > > JMW And all last night and today - "East Side, West Side". __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 09:57:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92Ev021022915 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 09:57:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7F0C01E600B9; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 09:55:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 516531E600C2 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 09:55:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E833E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 10:51:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12868956 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 10:51:11 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h92EpAi17048 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 10:51:10 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h92Ep9W1024579 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 07:51:09 -0700 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h92Ep8Wq024539; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 07:51:09 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031002074908.00a5eb60@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 07:49:26 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: So, clo In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:20 AM 10/2/2003 -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > >Yes indeedy! It was a wonderful party. It was great to see clo's parents >again. It had been close to 40 years since I had seen them - and it was >great to meet some of clo's friends I had never met before. Clo knows >interesting people. Yes, she does. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 10:36:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92Fae21023293 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 10:36:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BFE8E1E600D0; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 10:34:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9255A1E600CA for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 10:34:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018A144@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 11:30:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12874102 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 11:30:51 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h92FUpi31026 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 11:30:51 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0018A13B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 11:30:50 -0400 Message-Id: <200310021530.h92FUpi31026@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 11:30:50 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: imftatl Chicago neighborhoods To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 02:23:38 -0500, Tushar Samant wrote: >02003-10-01 | Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> writes: >> > >TIA >> > >> > ? Transitory Intercranial A- (I forget) - ministrokes? >> >> I think you meant transient ischemic attack... >> >> Otherwise, the TIA above probably meant "thanks in advance". > >Nice lookup! Thank you. It's more fun to ask the list! :-} clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 10:40:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92FeS21023330 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 10:40:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 006331E600D9; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 10:38:43 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C309A1E600D0 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 10:38:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E855A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 11:34:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12874658 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 11:34:39 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h92FYdi32424 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 11:34:39 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0018A164@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 11:34:38 -0400 Message-Id: <200310021534.h92FYdi32424@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 11:34:39 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Subways To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 11:06:32 +0200, steph wrote: >= >= I wonder whether a bias toward East Coast American cities as "great" might >= account for the "east side" claim? Which is the port side of Amsterdam? >= >= clo > >Traditionally the port was to the north of the city. The current >port is on the NW side of the city, in an industrial area >completely separate from anything. The NE side of the city is >the traditionally seedy sailor zone - that's where the red light >district is. Oh... so the port isn't where the seedy district is? hmmm... clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 10:59:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92Fx621023543 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 10:59:06 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 57DC31E600DD; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 10:57:20 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 264E01E600D9 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 10:57:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E860E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 11:53:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12876274 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 11:53:16 -0400 Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.31]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h92FrGi05428 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 11:53:16 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HM50061D03U1H@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 02 Oct 2003 11:52:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.11] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Thu, 02 Oct 2003 11:49:18 -0400 Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 11:49:18 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: imftatl Chicago neighborhoods To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <9482e920b9.920b99482e@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: Tushar Samant Date: Thursday, October 2, 2003 3:23 am Subject: Re: imftatl Chicago neighborhoods > 02003-10-01 | Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> writes: > > > >TIA > > > > > > ? Transitory Intercranial A- (I forget) - ministrokes? > > > > I think you meant transient ischemic attack... > > > > Otherwise, the TIA above probably meant "thanks in advance". > > Nice lookup! NOT you ASS! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 12:17:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92HHv21024427 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:17:57 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7AAE61E600D9; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:14:53 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 492251E60026 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:14:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E88CE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:10:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12883320 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:10:49 -0400 Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h92HAni25393 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:10:49 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HM500B1E3Q15X@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 02 Oct 2003 13:10:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.24] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Thu, 02 Oct 2003 13:07:25 -0400 Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 13:07:25 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Alyce's Cubs To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <9d3caa10ea.a10ea9d3ca@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Adam Hartfield wrote: > > > http://adamhartfield1937.fotopic.net/photo.php?id=1345711 > > Good picture. In a way that seems like long, long ago but in > other ways > like no time ago. I haven't used the sundae glasses since. I think it's about time -- yum! Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 12:18:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92HIC21024430 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:18:12 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E77051E600D9; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:16:25 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B56C41E6002C for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:16:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0018A4B2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:12:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12883508 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:12:22 -0400 Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.46]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h92HCMi25829 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:12:22 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HM500C7F3SLTH@mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 02 Oct 2003 13:12:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.24] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Thu, 02 Oct 2003 13:08:39 -0400 Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 13:08:39 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Alyce's Cubs To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <9aa659a7f9.9a7f99aa65@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I want that sundae! Come to my house. I still have another can of hot fudge. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 12:20:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92HK721024436 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:20:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 995341E6002C; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:18:20 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62FF71E60026 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:18:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E88F1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:14:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12883738 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:14:17 -0400 Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h92HEGi26360 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:14:16 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HM5004SY3VRTI@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 02 Oct 2003 13:14:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.24] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Thu, 02 Oct 2003 13:10:52 -0400 Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 13:10:52 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Are These People Trustworthy? To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <9f5919ab6f.9ab6f9f591@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > time I invited Miles to meet me on top of the ESB at sunset on > > > Dec. 17 > > > > I'm not Myles but I'll meet you there... > > On top of the ESB at sunset? Is this a ? It is Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 12:49:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92HnE21024668 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:49:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 880FB1E600E5; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:47:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21F7C1E6002D for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:47:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E8A5B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:43:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12887151 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:43:23 -0400 Received: from imo-m03.mx.aol.com (imo-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.6]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h92HhNi03259 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:43:23 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1cf.11dc1526 (16930) for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:42:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1cf.11dc1526.2cadbd9d@aol.com> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:42:53 EDT Subject: Re: Subways To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/2/2003 3:06:49 AM, stevie@MULTINIX.COM writes: >= I wonder whether a bias toward East Coast American cities as "great" >might >= account for the "east side" claim? Which is the port side of Amsterdam? > Of Course! ROFL Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 12:50:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92Hov21024673 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:50:57 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2E9D31E6002D; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:49:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF4F41E6002C for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:49:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E8A77@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:45:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12887304 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:45:07 -0400 Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h92Hj6i03821 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:45:06 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.17c.210d9c6d (16930) for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:44:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <17c.210d9c6d.2cadbe15@aol.com> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:44:53 EDT Subject: Re: Subways To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/2/2003 3:17:39 AM, stevie@MULTINIX.COM writes: >Of course Amsterdam is a port city, it's just not THE PORT CITY And of course americans know better than one born there! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 13:26:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92IQq21025112 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:26:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 034571E600EB; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:25:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9C881E6002C for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:25:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E8C15@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 14:21:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12891021 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 14:21:02 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h92IL2i14588 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 14:21:02 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h92IL1105251 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:21:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 6EED816B4; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:21:01 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:21:01 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alyce's Cubs Message-ID: <20031002182101.GA18075@pobox.com> References: <200310012318.h91NIDW30954@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200310012318.h91NIDW30954@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-10-01 | Carolyn Ostrander writes: > Natalie Maynor wrote: > >Betty Clark wrote: > > > >> I'd rather go to Chicago for a baseball game than a stupid polka. > > > >You could do both. > > OK, let's meet for a ball game, but I insist that if we go to a polka party, > it be , with the older band Tushar described, or some similar. It's OK, I learned at my weekly "Bobos for Authenticity" meeting that the Polkaholics are extremely intelligent: http://www.polkaholics.com/home.htm Notice the "polkameister with a rock'n'roll soul" near the end ... that means going weedy-weedy-weedy on a guitar and intermittently shouting "Polka!" From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 13:41:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92IfH21025358 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:41:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 558521E600EB; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:37:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E224D1E6002C for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:37:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E8C9C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 14:33:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12892418 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 14:33:18 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h92IXHi18499 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 14:33:17 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h92IXG115952 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:33:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 944C516B4; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:33:16 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:33:16 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: [FWD: The 80's - A trip down memory lane...] Message-ID: <20031002183316.GB18075@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU There you go ... you thought I was bitching for no reason ... but here's a typical message direct to my mailbox proving that the "80s" needs to be declared by the W.H.O. as a critical epidemic ... ----- Forwarded message ----- Subject: RE: The 80's - A trip down memory lane... Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 10:20:04 -0500 This list was TOTALLY AWSOME!!! ;) I LOVED the 80's!!! L**** E. N***** S**ior M*****ing A*****ant ****, ******* * ***** LLP *** S. Lasalle, **th Floor Chicago, IL 60*** -----Original Message----- Subject: FW: The 80's - A trip down memory lane... This one is really long but man is it a good trip! >You know you grew up in the 1980's.... >1.) You know what "Sike" means. >2.) You know the profound meaning of "Wax on, Wax off." >3.) You know that another name for a keyboard is a "Synthesizer." >4.) You can sing the McDonald's Big Mack, Filet-o-Fish, quarter pounder and >French fry song. >5.) You know who Mr. T is. >6.) You know Fat Albert and the man behind his voice. >7.) You ever wore fluorescent, neon clothing. >8.) You could breakdance, or wish you could. >9.) You wanted to be "a punk" for Halloween. >10.) You Believed that "By the power of Greyskull, you HAD the power!" >11.) Partying "like it's 1999" seemed SO far away. >12.) You thought that Transformers were more than meets the eye. >13.) You knew that "knowing is half the battle." >14.) You wanted to be on Star Search. >15.) You can remember Michael Jackson when he was black. >16.) You wore a banana clip at some point during your youth. >17.) You remember the garbage pail kids, and maybe owned some. >18.) You knew what Willis was "talkin'bout." >19.) You understood when Scooby Doo said, "Rut row raggy?" and laughed when >Shaggy said "Zoinks!" >20.) You HAD to have your MTV. >21.) You actually thought "Dirty Dancing" was a REALLY good movie. >22.) You remember when ATARI was a state of the art video game system. >23.) You owned any cassettes. >24.) You were led to believe that in the year 2000 we'd all be living on the >moon. >25.) You remember and/or owned any of the Care Bear Glass collection from >Pizza Hut or the Muppets glasses from McDonalds. >26.) Poltergeist freaked you out. >27.) "Bueller?" >28.) You carried your lunch to school in a Gremlins, ET, Dukes of Hazard, >Knight Rider, Strawberry Shortcake or A-Team lunch box. >29.) You have ever pondered why Smurfette was the ONLY female smurf. >30.) You know what leg warmers are and probably had a pair. >31.) You heard "I've fallen and I can't get up!" at least 100 times. >32.) You wore your Izod shirt with the collar up. >33.) You had a Swatch Watch with the Swatch Guard. >34.) You loved the "Where's the beef?" Wendy's commercial. >35.) You remember when Happy Meals came in a box, not a paper bag. >36.) You remember when Saturday Night Live was funny. >37.) You had Wonder Woman or Superman underoos. >38.) You know what a "Push Up" ice cream is. >39.) You had to come in the house when the street lights came on. >40.) You had to change into play clothes after school. >41.) You owned, or knew somebody with a Commodore 64. >42.) You hated Scrappy Doo. >43.) You recorded songs off the radio with your boom box. >44.) You wish you had a light saber. >45.) Somehow you still know all the words to songs played on VH1... VH1 does >suddenly seem cool...so do all of those "adult contemporary" radio stations. >46.) Your arm was full of rubber bracelets. >47.) You have ever said, "Gag me with a spoon." >48.) You have ever wondered what happened to Saturday morning cartoons. >49.) You had to get up to change the channel. >50.) You can still sing 1 to 12 from the Pinball machine on Sesame Street. >51.) You thought the "Thriller" video was pretty cool. >52.) You remember the first time you went into a video store to rent a >movie. >53.) Boys wore those wide, colorful shoelaces, and girls wore jellies. >54.) Quiet Riot's "Come on feel the noise" was the best song-ever. >55.) You know which movie "I want my two dollars" came from. >56.) You still cannot go in to the water because of that dang movie "Jaws". >57.) El Debarge's "Feel the beat of the Rhythm of the night" plagued the >radio every hour. >58.) "The Cure" was about as weird as a band could get, but you liked them >anyway. >59.) You were concerned when Michael Jackson burned his hair in the Pepsi >commercial. >60.) You thought the miniseries "V" was a good movie. >61.) Every dance was named after a gym shoe (The Nike, The Adidas, The >Reebok, etc). >62.)Before "The Rock" there was "Hulk Hogan". >63.)You remember "Purple Rain" was the hottest soundtrack and movie. >64.) The girls wore a "Bump N Go". >65.) You had a jerri curl. > >If you can identify with at least half of this list then you, my friend, are >a "Child of the 80's". Send this to anyone that would appreciate going back >to this wonderful time. ************************************************************************ This message may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. 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Thank you. ************************************************************************** ----- End forwarded message ----- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 13:49:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92In621025478 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:49:06 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 107C21E600FA; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:47:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE9E31E6002C for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:47:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0018A82F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 14:43:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12893291 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 14:43:14 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h92IhEi21040 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 14:43:14 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h92IhCRP026297 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:43:12 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h92IhCfA026295 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:43:12 +0200 Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:43:11 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Subways Message-ID: <20031002184311.GA26282@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <17c.210d9c6d.2cadbe15@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <17c.210d9c6d.2cadbe15@aol.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof: = In a message dated 10/2/2003 3:17:39 AM, stevie@MULTINIX.COM writes: = = >Of course Amsterdam is a port city, it's just not THE PORT CITY = = And of course americans know better than one born there! = Theo Well, YEAH! actually. And Indians know more about where I was born, SO THERE! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 14:14:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92JEb21025807 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 14:14:37 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0D3821E600FB; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 14:12:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F9F31E600FA for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 14:12:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E8E41@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:08:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12896522 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:08:46 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h92J8Wi30616 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:08:45 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h92J8VRP026324 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:08:31 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h92J8UiW026322 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:08:30 +0200 Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:08:30 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: [FWD: The 80's - A trip down memory lane...] Message-ID: <20031002190830.GB26282@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20031002183316.GB18075@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031002183316.GB18075@pobox.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = >54.) Quiet Riot's "Come on feel the noise" was the best song-ever. We got a new turntable, so it's going to be the 80's again here for a while. First record out was The Vapors. Not sure what I'll choose next. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 14:57:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92Jv021026189 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 14:57:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2F9401E600FF; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 14:55:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9AE81E600FB for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 14:55:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E8F90@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:51:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12899647 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:51:09 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h92Jp7i09297 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:51:07 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h92Jp5RP026391 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:51:05 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h92Jp4Kw026389 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:51:04 +0200 Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:51:04 +0200 From: steph To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: [FWD: The 80's - A trip down memory lane...] Message-ID: <20031002195104.GA26364@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20031002183316.GB18075@pobox.com> <20031002190830.GB26282@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031002190830.GB26282@yoccoz.multinix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph: = = = = >54.) Quiet Riot's "Come on feel the noise" was the best song-ever. = = = We got a new turntable, so it's going to be the 80's again here = for a while. First record out was The Vapors. Not sure what = I'll choose next. Stevie Wonder, Songs in the Key of Life followed by Jackson Browne (Saturate Before Using) So, it's not the 80's, it's the 70's. Which, when you think about it makes sense, because I started buying cd's in 1986. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 15:04:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92K4X21026336 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:04:33 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ECE601E60103; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:02:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 910721E600FA for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:02:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E9024@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:58:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12901032 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:58:03 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h92Jw2i12068 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:58:02 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 0E2942B8F9; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:58:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D00FD2B8EC for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:58:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:58:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: [FWD: The 80's - A trip down memory lane...] In-Reply-To: <20031002183316.GB18075@pobox.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >47.) You have ever said, "Gag me with a spoon." This is so uh -50'S- ! Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 15:04:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92K4X21026331 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:04:33 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 430321E600FF; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:00:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8E3F1E600FA for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:00:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E900C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:55:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12900703 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:55:41 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h92Jtei11193 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:55:40 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 046152B8F7; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:55:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB1E82B8FE for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:55:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:55:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: [FWD: The 80's - A trip down memory lane...] In-Reply-To: <20031002183316.GB18075@pobox.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What does 'sike' mean? Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 15:05:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92K5T21026370 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:05:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2E4261E600FF; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:03:42 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E35C21E600FB for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:03:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018AB27@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:59:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12901287 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:59:38 -0400 Received: from web20513.mail.yahoo.com (web20513.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h92Jxbi12646 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:59:38 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20513.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 02 Oct 2003 12:59:01 PDT Message-ID: <20031002195901.71198.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:59:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Alyce's Cubs To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031002182101.GA18075@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Tushar Samant wrote: > 02003-10-01 | Carolyn Ostrander > writes: > > Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >Betty Clark wrote: > > > > > >> I'd rather go to Chicago for a baseball game > than a stupid polka. > > > > > >You could do both. > > > > OK, let's meet for a ball game, but I insist that > if we go to a polka party, > > it be , with the older band Tushar > described, or some similar. > > It's OK, I learned at my weekly "Bobos for > Authenticity" > meeting that the Polkaholics are extremely > intelligent: > > http://www.polkaholics.com/home.htm > > Notice the "polkameister with a rock'n'roll soul" > near the > end ... that means going weedy-weedy-weedy on a > guitar and > intermittently shouting "Polka!" 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Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 15:16:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92KGq21026460 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:16:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9F4691E60101; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:15:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 579021E600FF for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:15:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E90BA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 16:11:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12902407 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 16:11:00 -0400 Received: from mail1.murraystate.edu (mail.mursuky.edu [216.249.159.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h92KB0i15443 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 16:11:00 -0400 Received: from trioets89712 (216.249.149.232) by mail1.murraystate.edu (7.0.008) id 3F5503F1001B1137 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:09:54 -0500 Message-ID: <019701c38920$e24c0ee0$e895f9d8@msunet2k.edu> From: "Amy Burns Short" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: Re: Subways Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:08:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > And I'll be thinking of "Some Like It Hot" all day >now, you rat. >JMW And I'll be thinking of Hotel del Coronado! AS From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 15:20:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92KKe21026471 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:20:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3CDB81E600FA; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:18:53 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAB801E60041 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:18:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E90F5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 16:14:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12902741 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 16:14:49 -0400 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h92KEmi16597 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 16:14:49 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 02 Oct 2003 13:14:48 PDT Message-ID: <20031002201448.91341.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:14:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Alyce's Cubs To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031002182101.GA18075@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Tushar Samant wrote: > 02003-10-01 | Carolyn Ostrander > writes: > > Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >Betty Clark wrote: > > > > > >> I'd rather go to Chicago for a baseball game > than a stupid polka. > > > > > >You could do both. > > > > OK, let's meet for a ball game, but I insist that > if we go to a polka party, > > it be , with the older band Tushar > described, or some similar. > > It's OK, I learned at my weekly "Bobos for > Authenticity" > meeting that the Polkaholics are extremely > intelligent: > > http://www.polkaholics.com/home.htm > > Notice the "polkameister with a rock'n'roll soul" > near the > end ... that means going weedy-weedy-weedy on a > guitar and > intermittently shouting "Polka!" What are you waiting for? You've got it down cold. Audition. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 15:46:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92KkJ21026679 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:46:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 401781E60106; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:44:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C30F1E60103 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:44:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018AC71@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 16:40:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12904897 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 16:40:27 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h92KeMi24462 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 16:40:22 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.155.250]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031002204017.TNET1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 16:40:17 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7C8D32.35F55376@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 15:40:18 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Subways References: <20031002125400.60487.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > > I'm confused. The boats I've been intimate with > > never changed their > > light colors. Green was always starboard and red > > always port. > > The lights do not change. The position of the ship > does. So what is on your port side on your way out, > is on your starboard side on your way in. Thus, POSH. Well, yes. That's the point of the color-coding -- to make clear to other boats which way you're going. Or at least that's what I've always assumed. I don't understand your "red returning" thing. I assume you're talking about from the pov of somebody on shore or on the water on one side or the other of the boat whose lights are being looked at. But whether red would mean returning or heading out is -- it would depend on where you were in relation to the harbor. An example that comes to mind was my summer at Lake George. If soem of us were at Gull Bay Casino and saw one of the camp boats on the lake, red meant it was heading out -- heading toward Hague, and green meant it was on its way home. But if we were up on the camping island, on the other side of the camp, it would be the opposite -- green would mean it was heading toward Hague, red that it was on its way home. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 15:52:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92Kqm21026756 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:52:48 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 35A311E600FF; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:51:00 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0749E1E6003F for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:51:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E91FF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 16:46:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12905614 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 16:46:56 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h92Kkui26241 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 16:46:56 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id AF7B02B8DC; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:46:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 999A82B8CB for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:46:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:46:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Subways In-Reply-To: <3F7C8D32.35F55376@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 2 Oct 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Well, yes. That's the point of the color-coding -- to make clear to > other boats which way you're going. Or at least that's what I've always > assumed. I don't understand your "red returning" thing. I assume > you're talking about from the pov of somebody on shore or on the water > on one side or the other of the boat whose lights are being looked at. > But whether red would mean returning or heading out is -- it > would depend on where you were in relation to the harbor. An example > that comes to mind was my summer at Lake George. If soem of us were at > Gull Bay Casino and saw one of the camp boats on the lake, red meant it > was heading out -- heading toward Hague, and green meant it was on its > way home. But if we were up on the camping island, on the other side of > the camp, it would be the opposite -- green would mean it was heading > toward Hague, red that it was on its way home. Red Right Returning means that the red harbor light will be on your right when your boat puts back into the harbor. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 15:57:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92KvG21026781 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:57:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AC8141E60103; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:55:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 723131E600FF for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:55:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E9251@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 16:51:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12906213 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 16:51:25 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h92KpOi27778 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 16:51:24 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h92KpN2f006142 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:51:23 -0700 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h92KpLJC006085 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:51:23 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031002134928.00a66380@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 13:49:39 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Subways In-Reply-To: References: <3F7C8D32.35F55376@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:46 PM 10/2/2003 -0700, you wrote: >On Thu, 2 Oct 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > Well, yes. That's the point of the color-coding -- to make clear to > > other boats which way you're going. Or at least that's what I've always > > assumed. I don't understand your "red returning" thing. I assume > > you're talking about from the pov of somebody on shore or on the water > > on one side or the other of the boat whose lights are being looked at. > > But whether red would mean returning or heading out is -- it > > would depend on where you were in relation to the harbor. An example > > that comes to mind was my summer at Lake George. If soem of us were at > > Gull Bay Casino and saw one of the camp boats on the lake, red meant it > > was heading out -- heading toward Hague, and green meant it was on its > > way home. But if we were up on the camping island, on the other side of > > the camp, it would be the opposite -- green would mean it was heading > > toward Hague, red that it was on its way home. > >Red Right Returning means that the red harbor light will be on your right >when your boat puts back into the harbor. > >Ann SIKE From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 16:13:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92LD821026926 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 16:13:08 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 507131E6010B; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 16:11:20 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19D421E60106 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 16:11:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0018ADC7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 17:07:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12908386 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 17:07:16 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h92L7Fi31691 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 17:07:16 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.74.91]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HM5EDF01.M2Z for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 14:00:51 -0700 Message-ID: <3F7C934F.A55A7FF4@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 14:06:23 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: [FWD: The 80's - A trip down memory lane...] References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > What does 'sike' mean? > > Ann "Psych". JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 16:15:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92LFA21026966 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 16:15:10 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 25FE01E6010B; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 16:13:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E85211E60103 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 16:13:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E9357@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 17:09:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12908563 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 17:09:14 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h92L9Ei32019 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 17:09:14 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.155.250]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031002210908.QMVI1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 17:09:08 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7C93F5.8F5346ED@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 16:09:09 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Subways References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin wrote: > Red Right Returning means that the red harbor light will be on your right > when your boat puts back into the harbor. Ah so. I thought we were talking about the lights on a boat. That's what I've been talking about. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 16:18:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92LIT21027014 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 16:18:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A53B31E60106; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 16:16:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 742161E60103 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 16:16:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0018ADEB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 17:12:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12908789 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 17:12:26 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h92LCNi32704 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 17:12:23 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 6B50E2B8EE; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 14:12:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 477A52B8ED for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 14:12:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 14:12:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Subways In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031002134928.00a66380@uclink.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 2 Oct 2003, Betty Clark wrote: > >Red Right Returning means that the red harbor light will be on your right > >when your boat puts back into the harbor. > > > >Ann > > SIKE You mispelled 'cite'. http://br.theadvocate.com/lockwood/1108cc.htm Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 16:54:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92Ls721027416 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 16:54:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6731B1E6010B; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 16:52:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 367A81E60103 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 16:52:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E9472@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 17:48:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12910874 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 17:48:15 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h92LmFi08208 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 17:48:15 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h92LmDW1003496 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 14:48:13 -0700 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h92LmCWq003443; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 14:48:12 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031002144555.00a68010@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 14:46:30 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Alyce's Cubs In-Reply-To: <9aa659a7f9.9a7f99aa65@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:08 PM 10/2/2003 -0400, Marie Ascher wrote: > > I want that sundae! > >Come to my house. I still have another can of hot fudge. I think I still have the directions, too! Are you going to the game tonight? The A's are winning right now. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 17:05:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92M5S21027485 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 17:05:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 82D581E6010B; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 17:03:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 502881E60103 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 17:03:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E948E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 17:59:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12911454 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 17:59:36 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h92Lxai10612 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 17:59:36 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h92Lxa110002 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 16:59:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 111A816B4; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 16:59:36 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 16:59:36 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Subways Message-ID: <20031002215936.GA24288@pobox.com> References: <17c.210d9c6d.2cadbe15@aol.com> <20031002184311.GA26282@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031002184311.GA26282@yoccoz.multinix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-10-02 | steph writes: > Theo Groothof: > = In a message dated 10/2/2003 3:17:39 AM, stevie@MULTINIX.COM writes: > = > = >Of course Amsterdam is a port city, it's just not THE PORT CITY > = > = And of course americans know better than one born there! > = Theo > > Well, YEAH! actually. > > And Indians know more about where I was born, SO THERE! Cite. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 17:11:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92MBp21027539 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 17:11:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A985A1E6010E; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 17:10:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2193C1E6010D for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 17:10:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0018AF2D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 18:05:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12912000 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 18:05:57 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h92M5vi11948 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 18:05:57 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h92M5rKI019716 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 17:05:55 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000601c38932$681ce4c0$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <019701c38920$e24c0ee0$e895f9d8@msunet2k.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Subways Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 17:13:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > And I'll be thinking of "Some Like It Hot" all day >now, you rat. > > >JMW > > And I'll be thinking of Hotel del Coronado! > > AS Er, uh, why the del Coronado? Am I missing something? I have a lovely sweatshirt I bought in their gift shop one very chilly day. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 17:13:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92MDd21027555 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 17:13:39 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B83D11E6010E; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 17:11:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A43C1E6010D for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 17:11:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E94E8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 18:07:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12912102 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 18:07:47 -0400 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:FYwVpXVEi8LNQiRSNMYWcAjY9TCRCeHh@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h92M7ki12349 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 18:07:46 -0400 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2F7C2FE5E for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:07:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41C6923831 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:07:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: The sunrise is going down quickly X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Jon-Carroll: We live in a culture of lies Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:07:38 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Survivor commentary, pre-Episode 3 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Those of you who hate these Survivor posts know where your delete key is... Since everyone and their brother is writing Survivor commentary anymore, I thought I'd try my hand at it. As everyone who has been watching knows, the Morgan tribe is utterly dysfunctional and inept, while the Drake is doing everything right. However, as watchers of past episodes know, the wheel of fortune can always turn (remember Chuay Gahn and Sook Jai in Thailand?). While the respective states of their camps is not in dispute, in both of the last two immunity challenges Morgan was in the lead at some point. Given the most recent promo (which features Morgan's Andrew saying, "If we have to go to Tribal Council one more time, we're finished"), I'm inclined to believe that Drake will lose this time and have to vote off one of their own. Which one will it be? It's been observed that the first boot on a tribe often goes to a social misfit, but on Drake there hasn't been anyone who has so far been portrayed as such, with the possible exception of motor-mouth Jon. Unless one is willing to credit so-called spoiler information, I don't think any audience member can predict with any accuracy who it will be. We have seen a lot of the internal dissention among the Morgan tribe, but only some of the more obvious blow-ups on the Drake side. The one thing that I *can* predict is this: tonight, finally, we will see a lot more of the internal politics of Drake, and not just Rupert, Sandra, and Shawn. If, however, Morgan does go to Tribal Council again, the next person voted out will undoubtedly be Lillian. Poor Lillian: like Ryan S., she would have been in her element on the other team. She has more survival skills (and, for that matter, more leadership skills) in her little finger than Andrew and Osten have between the two of them, and she's a tough competitor and a team player to boot. But given Andrew's complete lack of observational skills regarding the abilities of his teammates, his quasi-homerotic admiration of Osten's supposed physical strength, and the fact that there simply are no other easy targets for him to choose, it would almost have to be Lillian. Afterthought: I am coming to believe that Jon ("that little motor-mouth") may well be the Clay (from Thailand) of this series. He seems to annoy everybody without exception, and, paradoxically, that could strengthen his position. He's such a jerk that no matter who the final two are, if one of them is Jon, the other person is pretty much guaranteed to win, and everyone who is really playing this game is going to try to bring him along with them for that reason alone. Ken Miller EPMB School of Social Analysis From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 17:23:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92MNd21027667 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 17:23:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 598511E6010D; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 17:21:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 290771E60103 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 17:21:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E950D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 18:17:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12912424 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 18:17:47 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h92MHli13981 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 18:17:47 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.155.250]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031002221742.HBQP1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 18:17:42 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7CA406.E8FB771F@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 17:17:42 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor commentary, pre-Episode 3 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bookrat wrote: > Afterthought: I am coming to believe that Jon ("that little motor-mouth") > may well be the Clay (from Thailand) of this series. He seems to annoy > everybody without exception, and, paradoxically, that could strengthen his > position. He's such a jerk that no matter who the final two are, if one of > them is Jon, the other person is pretty much guaranteed to win, and > everyone who is really playing this game is going to try to bring him along > with them for that reason alone. Good point. But don't forget the editing. He may not be as disliked as he appears to be so far. The editors might have been zooming in on the negative statements about him for whatever reasons they have for manipulating. Remember the black teacher (from NYC?) who seemed so lazy and scorned for several weeks and then went on to be likable and to last a long time? I can't remember which Survivor that was or what his name was. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 18:09:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92N9s21028081 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 18:09:54 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 98D521E60113; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 18:08:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 622651E60112 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 18:08:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E9641@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 19:04:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12915358 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 19:04:01 -0400 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h92N41i23114 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 19:04:01 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1ef.10be7011 (3980) for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 19:03:51 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1ef.10be7011.2cae08d6@aol.com> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 19:03:50 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] [FWD: The 80's - A trip down memory lane...] To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/2/2003 1:34:58 PM Central Daylight Time, scribble@POBOX.COM writes: >45.) Somehow you still know all the words to songs played on VH1... VH1 does >suddenly seem cool...so do all of those "adult contemporary" radio stations. VH1 doesn't play videos much; it has mainly programs about videos and "Movies that Rock." Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 18:12:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h92NCk21028101 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 18:12:46 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DD41F1E60114; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 18:10:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7E401E60112 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 18:10:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E9652@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 19:06:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12915508 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 19:06:54 -0400 Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h92N6ri23655 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 19:06:54 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.4f.34e31567 (3980) for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 19:06:45 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <4f.34e31567.2cae0984@aol.com> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 19:06:44 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] [FWD: The 80's - A trip down memory lane...] To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Jem wasn't mentioned? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 19:03:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9303V21028596 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 19:03:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 866701E60114; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 19:01:42 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5168B1E60112 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 19:01:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E9786@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 19:57:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12918595 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 19:57:38 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h92Nvci01040 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 19:57:38 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[66.31.143.74]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2003100223573201400o2s3ke> (Authid: adamh1); Thu, 2 Oct 2003 23:57:32 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Alyce's Cubs Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 19:57:32 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <3F7B89C9.E8E18342@maynor.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Good picture. In a way that seems like long, long ago but in other ways > like no time ago. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Thanks. You're right about how it feels - both a thousand years ago and just yesterday. --Adam adamh1@comcast.net From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 19:16:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h930Gf21028722 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 19:16:41 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3C6BF1E60116; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 19:14:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DEBC1E60112 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 19:14:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E97C9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:10:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12919253 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:10:48 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h930Ami03402 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:10:48 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[66.31.143.74]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003100300103801300nln2pe> (Authid: adamh1); Fri, 3 Oct 2003 00:10:39 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: [FWD: The 80's - A trip down memory lane...] Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:10:38 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20031002190830.GB26282@yoccoz.multinix.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > We got a new turntable Woot! Last Friday I got an eBay shipment of Mother Maybelle Carter's eponymous 1973 double LP. I'm loving it and have transferred it to CD already. I need a record holder, however - and space to put it. (Gosh, that sentence reminded me of Bethany. Speaking of whom, Bethany, do you read the funnies in the paper? Non Sequitur is making me think of you - the little girl Danae has a pet horse, and I can't help but think of you and Maria.) --Adam adamh1@comcast.net From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 19:19:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h930JR21028755 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 19:19:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C96591E6011F; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 19:17:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9278D1E60119 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 19:17:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018B1D2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:13:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12919381 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:13:34 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h930DXi04024 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:13:33 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[66.31.143.74]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2003100300132701400o2t2de> (Authid: adamh1); Fri, 3 Oct 2003 00:13:27 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: [FWD: The 80's - A trip down memory lane...] Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:13:27 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <4f.34e31567.2cae0984@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Jem wasn't mentioned? > > Evelyn Duncan Nah, that list had no synergy. --Adam adamh1@comcast.net From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 19:22:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h930M021028801 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 19:22:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D6E8A1E60118; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 19:20:10 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F551E60112 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 19:20:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0018B1D0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:16:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12919700 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:16:07 -0400 Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h930G7i05046 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:16:07 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1ce.11e615f7 (3956) for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:15:57 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1ce.11e615f7.2cae19bc@aol.com> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:15:56 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] [FWD: The 80's - A trip down memory lane...] To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/2/2003 7:13:48 PM Central Daylight Time, adamh1@COMCAST.NET writes: > Jem wasn't mentioned? > > Evelyn Duncan Nah, that list had no synergy. I guess they're not used to someone who's truly outrageous. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 19:38:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h930cs21028978 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 19:38:54 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 25C061E60116; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 19:37:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EADBF1E60112 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 19:37:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E9853@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:33:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12920751 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:33:01 -0400 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h930X1i09418 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:33:01 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.55.48cb9779 (4426) for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:32:49 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <55.48cb9779.2cae1db1@aol.com> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:32:49 EDT Subject: Daisy To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Well, it finally happened: she pulled me down onto the concrete. Mom and I took her to the mailboxes, and she was startled by a car. She pulled me down, and I hit my elbow when I fell. I'm OK, just a few scrapes, and Daisy was smart enough to run to the apartment when she was scared when I hollered. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 20:28:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h931S521029626 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:28:05 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8543E1E60119; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:26:15 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5109F1E60046 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:26:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E990D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:22:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12922679 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:22:11 -0400 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h931MBi18412 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:22:11 -0400 Received: from [68.17.181.198] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 02 Oct 2003 18:22:09 PDT Message-ID: <20031003012209.2352.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 18:22:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Subways To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031002215936.GA24288@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > = And of course americans know better than one > born there! > > = Theo > > > > Well, YEAH! actually. > > > > And Indians know more about where I was born, SO > THERE! > > Cite. Psych. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 20:30:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h931Up21029679 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:30:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6CA8F1E6011F; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:29:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33D791E60046 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:29:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018B2E4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:24:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12922740 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:24:57 -0400 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h931Oji18713 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:24:45 -0400 Received: from [68.17.181.198] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 02 Oct 2003 18:24:44 PDT Message-ID: <20031003012444.50371.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 18:24:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Survivor commentary, pre-Episode 3 To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Bookrat wrote: > Those of you who hate these Survivor posts know > where your delete key is... > > Since everyone and their brother is writing Survivor > commentary anymore, I > thought I'd try my hand at it. > > As everyone who has been watching knows, the Morgan > tribe is utterly > dysfunctional and inept, while the Drake is doing > everything right. > However, as watchers of past episodes know, the > wheel of fortune can always > turn (remember Chuay Gahn and Sook Jai in > Thailand?). While the respective > states of their camps is not in dispute, in both of > the last two immunity > challenges Morgan was in the lead at some point. > Given the most recent > promo (which features Morgan's Andrew saying, "If we > have to go to Tribal > Council one more time, we're finished"), I'm > inclined to believe that Drake > will lose this time and have to vote off one of > their own. Which one will > it be? > > It's been observed that the first boot on a tribe > often goes to a social > misfit, but on Drake there hasn't been anyone who > has so far been portrayed > as such, with the possible exception of motor-mouth > Jon. Unless one is > willing to credit so-called spoiler information, I > don't think any audience > member can predict with any accuracy who it will be. > We have seen a lot of > the internal dissention among the Morgan tribe, but > only some of the more > obvious blow-ups on the Drake side. The one thing > that I *can* predict is > this: tonight, finally, we will see a lot more of > the internal politics of > Drake, and not just Rupert, Sandra, and Shawn. > > If, however, Morgan does go to Tribal Council again, > the next person voted > out will undoubtedly be Lillian. Poor Lillian: like > Ryan S., she would > have been in her element on the other team. She has > more survival skills > (and, for that matter, more leadership skills) in > her little finger than > Andrew and Osten have between the two of them, and > she's a tough competitor > and a team player to boot. But given Andrew's > complete lack of > observational skills regarding the abilities of his > teammates, his > quasi-homerotic admiration of Osten's supposed > physical strength, and the > fact that there simply are no other easy targets for > him to choose, it > would almost have to be Lillian. > > Afterthought: I am coming to believe that Jon > ("that little motor-mouth") > may well be the Clay (from Thailand) of this series. > He seems to annoy > everybody without exception, and, paradoxically, > that could strengthen his > position. He's such a jerk that no matter who the > final two are, if one of > them is Jon, the other person is pretty much > guaranteed to win, and > everyone who is really playing this game is going to > try to bring him along > with them for that reason alone. > > Ken Miller > EPMB School of Social Analysis The Treaty of Versailles did not get this much coverage. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 20:41:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h931fv21029822 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:41:57 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 45B8F1E6011F; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:40:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1372A1E60046 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:40:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E9916@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:36:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12923069 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:36:03 -0400 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h931a2i20316 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:36:03 -0400 Received: from [68.17.181.198] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 02 Oct 2003 18:36:02 PDT Message-ID: <20031003013602.6197.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 18:36:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Daisy To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <55.48cb9779.2cae1db1@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > Well, it finally happened: she pulled me down onto > the > concrete. Mom and I took her to the mailboxes, and > she was startled by a car. She pulled me down, and > I hit my elbow when I fell. I'm OK, just a few > scrapes, > and Daisy was smart enough to run to the apartment > when she was scared when I hollered. > > Evelyn Duncan It's rather like falling off a horse, though. I once had a dog who would get me twirling in circles, and I'd wind up as Natalie did in her dance. He turned out to be my best dog ever, but he could be very rough on human flesh and bone. Perhaps you should have "walkies" padding. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 20:46:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h931kI21029904 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:46:18 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A8E2E1E60145; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:44:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 760D21E6011F for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:44:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E9924@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:40:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12923219 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:40:24 -0400 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h931eOi20971 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:40:24 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.40.350b7eb5 (2519) for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:40:13 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <40.350b7eb5.2cae2d7c@aol.com> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:40:12 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Daisy To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/2/2003 8:36:21 PM Central Daylight Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: Perhaps you should have "walkies" padding. That would be nice. I used to wear culottes at home; I can't do that anymore because of Daisy. Reminds me of when we first got Sweetie: I stopped wearing pantyhose because of her. Maybe I should get rollerblading padding. :) Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 20:47:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h931lv21029935 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:47:57 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3467B1E60145; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:46:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0575D1E6011F for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:46:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E9948@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:42:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12923260 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:41:54 -0400 Received: from web20512.mail.yahoo.com (web20512.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h931fsi21231 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:41:54 -0400 Received: from [68.17.181.198] by web20512.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 02 Oct 2003 18:41:53 PDT Message-ID: <20031003014153.20210.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 18:41:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Daisy To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <40.350b7eb5.2cae2d7c@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > In a message dated 10/2/2003 8:36:21 PM Central > Daylight Time, > lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: > Perhaps you should have > "walkies" padding. > > That would be nice. I used to wear culottes at > home; > I can't do that anymore because of Daisy. Reminds > me of when we first got Sweetie: I stopped wearing > pantyhose because of her. > > Maybe I should get rollerblading padding. :) > > Evelyn Duncan > brandykitt@aol.com > http://www.thehungersite.com Yes! Perfect. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 20:52:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h931qr21029960 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:52:54 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2B5691E60145; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:51:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E96981E6011F for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:51:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E99D3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:46:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12924582 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:46:24 -0400 Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h931kOi24213 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:46:24 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.19c.1ab0f670 (3980) for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:46:12 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <19c.1ab0f670.2cae2ee3@aol.com> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:46:11 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Daisy To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/2/2003 8:42:43 PM Central Daylight Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: Yes! Perfect. She loves to look out my window. But then she sees the upstairs neighbors come by, and she barks her heart out at them. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 20:57:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h931vO21030002 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:57:24 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C93311E6011F; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:55:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94BCB1E60044 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:55:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E9A27@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:51:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12925863 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:51:31 -0400 Received: from web20512.mail.yahoo.com (web20512.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h931pUi26974 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:51:30 -0400 Received: from [68.17.181.198] by web20512.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 02 Oct 2003 18:51:29 PDT Message-ID: <20031003015129.22744.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 18:51:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Daisy To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <19c.1ab0f670.2cae2ee3@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > She loves to look out my window. But then she sees > the > upstairs neighbors come by, and she barks her heart > out > at them. > > Evelyn Duncan > brandykitt@aol.com > http://www.thehungersite.com I don't think you'll need to worry about any crooks getting in, any more. Daisy will be at her post. Let me know if you're ready for another book. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 21:45:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h932j721030566 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:45:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 157211E6016D; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:43:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D71321E60049 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:43:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009E9ADB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:39:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12927844 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:39:13 -0400 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h932dCi02971 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:39:12 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.79.1a1764c5 (4592) for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:39:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <79.1a1764c5.2cae3b46@aol.com> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:39:02 EDT Subject: Re: Daisy To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/2/2003 6:33:07 PM, BrandyKitt@AOL.COM writes: >Well, it finally happened: she pulled me down onto the >concrete. My first dog would do that. My mom said that I could have a dog if I took him out; I was 10 and we lived on a 4th floor apartment. I named him bear, and he was about the size of one too! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 21:48:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h932mN21030603 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:48:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A5DD81E60156; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:46:33 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 785011E60049 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:46:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009E9AFF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:42:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12928045 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:42:29 -0400 Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h932gTi03506 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:42:29 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1d5.11b9f6cc (4592) for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:42:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1d5.11b9f6cc.2cae3c06@aol.com> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:42:14 EDT Subject: Re: [FWD: The 80's - A trip down memory lane...] To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/2/2003 1:51:26 PM, stevie@MULTINIX.COM writes: >We got a new turntable, so it's going to be the 80's again here >= for a while. First record out was The Vapors. Not sure what >= I'll choose next. > I just mail ordered one! Can't wait to drag out them records! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 21:50:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h932oM21030640 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:50:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EC1051E60156; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:48:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6CDB1E60049 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:48:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0018B496@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:44:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12928171 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:44:28 -0400 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h932iSi03847 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:44:28 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1d0.11cb96ba (3980) for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:44:16 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1d0.11cb96ba.2cae3c7e@aol.com> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:44:14 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Daisy To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/2/2003 9:39:35 PM Central Daylight Time, Dutchessg1@AOL.COM writes: I named him bear, and he was about the size of one too! Maybe I should have named Daisy "Horse"? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 2 21:52:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h932qs21030682 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:52:54 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 88E9C1E6016E; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:51:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A5A21E6016D for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:51:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009E9AFD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:47:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12927808 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:47:00 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h932axi02474 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:37:00 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h932arAR024561 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:36:53 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:36:59 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: [FWD: The 80's - A trip down memory lane...] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 2 Oct 2003, Adam Hartfield wrote: >> We got a new turntable Cool! I will have all my audio stuff hooked up sometime soon, I hope. >I need a record holder, however - and space to put it. I have built-in shelves - for the components and the records. >(Gosh, that sentence reminded me of Bethany. Speaking of whom, Bethany, do >you read the funnies in the paper? Non Sequitur is making me think of you - >the little girl Danae has a pet horse, and I can't help but think of you and >Maria.) Yes, I am enjoying it. Danae's horse is also pretty smart. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 01:57:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h936vk21000898 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 01:57:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2050A1E60121; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 01:55:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E72F81E60051 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 01:55:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EA2FF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 2:51:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12945727 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 02:51:51 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h936poi04819 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 02:51:50 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h936pnRP027660 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:51:49 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h936pmIO027658 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:51:48 +0200 Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:51:48 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Subways Message-ID: <20031003065148.GA27645@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <17c.210d9c6d.2cadbe15@aol.com> <20031002184311.GA26282@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20031002215936.GA24288@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031002215936.GA24288@pobox.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant: = 02003-10-02 | steph writes: = > Theo Groothof: = > = In a message dated 10/2/2003 3:17:39 AM, stevie@MULTINIX.COM writes: = > = = > = >Of course Amsterdam is a port city, it's just not THE PORT CITY = > = = > = And of course americans know better than one born there! = > = Theo = > = > Well, YEAH! actually. = > = > And Indians know more about where I was born, SO THERE! = = Cite. FSVO From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 05:22:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93AMH21002768 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 05:22:18 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BF5821E60130; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 05:20:24 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EC451E6012E for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 05:20:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0018BE20@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 6:16:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12950698 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 06:16:20 -0400 Received: from fe1.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h93AG7i18972 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 06:16:15 -0400 Received: from [151.199.51.131] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO bc.edu) by fe1.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.1) with ESMTP id 33620073 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 06:16:02 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7D4C5B.2040404@bc.edu> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 06:15:55 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Daisy References: <79.1a1764c5.2cae3b46@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <79.1a1764c5.2cae3b46@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This reminds me of when I had two dogs...a Russian Wolfhound and a Golden Retriever. I took them both to the vet at once. We all got out of the car; I had one leash in each hand and they both decided that they would prefer to be on the side of me opposite to where they were...then they changed their minds. I wound up on the pavement wrapped in leashes! Rita L. >In a message dated 10/2/2003 6:33:07 PM, BrandyKitt@AOL.COM writes: > > >>Well, it finally happened: she pulled me down onto the >>concrete. >> >> From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 05:41:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93AfE21002931 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 05:41:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C0D0C1E60132; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 05:39:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D8CE1E60131 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 05:39:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EA567@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 6:35:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12951399 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 06:35:17 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h93AZHi20465 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 06:35:17 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.164.251]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031003103513.JPJM24914.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 06:35:13 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7D50E1.C16245E4@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 05:35:13 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor commentary, pre-Episode 3 References: <20031003012444.50371.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > The Treaty of Versailles did not get this much > coverage. There was less to say about it. Last night was , though not really . I'm surprised that Morgan lost again. Something has got to give. Maybe the new twist will be that this time one tribe does get down to zero. I was surprised that Lil was the one to go. I thought sure it would be Dara, who seems almost non-existent anyway. I wonder whether there's a surprise in store for us, like Dara's hanging in there (no pun intended re last night's challenge) and making it into the final four. Somebody at lunch a week or so ago said that he had heard that she now has an unlisted phone number. Maybe they all do. I still think it is amazing that all that time goes by between the end of the filming and the showing of it without any leaks at all. No matter what kind of contract they sign, you would think that some tiny leak would accidentally make its way through with somebody. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 05:54:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93AsU21003032 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 05:54:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ABCAE1E60170; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 05:52:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E31E1E6016E for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 05:52:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EA5C3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 6:48:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12951535 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 06:48:32 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h93AmWi21459 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 06:48:32 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.164.251]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031003104827.QRYG1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 06:48:27 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7D53FB.BC517874@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 05:48:27 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Eurdora Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Since we've discussed EW before and some of you are fans of her writings, you might be interested in this newspaper story about her house: http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0310/03/m01.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 06:34:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93BYq21003331 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 06:34:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 793881E6016E; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 06:32:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C5B81E60135 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 06:32:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EA624@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 7:28:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12952183 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 07:28:54 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h93BIsi09752 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 07:18:54 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h93BIkAR016324 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 07:18:47 -0400 Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 07:18:52 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Eurdora In-Reply-To: <3F7D53FB.BC517874@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3F7D53FB.BC517874@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote under the header "Eurdora." Natalie, she's "Eudora." Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 07:44:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93CiV21004071 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 07:44:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5259F1E60137; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 07:42:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 248351E60136 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 07:42:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EA75E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 8:38:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12955124 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:38:32 -0400 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h93CSWi17185 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:28:32 -0400 Received: from ra.msstate.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.12.10/8.12.8/ra_1.2) with ESMTP; id h93CSTfb020065 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 07:28:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from maynor@localhost) by ra.msstate.edu (8.12.10/8.12.7/Submit) id h93CSTcN020060 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 07:28:29 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 07:28:29 -0500 (CDT) From: Natalie Maynor Message-Id: <200310031228.h93CSTcN020060@ra.msstate.edu> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Theological Question Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Do you think Spencer's life would be more if I took him to the Catholic Church to be blessed on Saturday afternoon and to the Episcopal Church to be blessed on Sunday afternoon? Is it fair to double-dip? Would St. Francis approve? --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 07:47:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93ClN21004097 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 07:47:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 315A71E60137; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 07:45:29 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F41FD1E60136 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 07:45:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0018C040@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 8:41:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12955195 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:41:24 -0400 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h93CVNi17461 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:31:23 -0400 Received: from ra.msstate.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.12.10/8.12.8/ra_1.2) with ESMTP; id h93CVMfb021846 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 07:31:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from maynor@localhost) by ra.msstate.edu (8.12.10/8.12.7/Submit) id h93CVMge021845 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 07:31:22 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 07:31:22 -0500 (CDT) From: Natalie Maynor Message-Id: <200310031231.h93CVMge021845@ra.msstate.edu> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: More from the SDN Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The MSU soccer coach is being quoted about how the SEC-West teams are doing better than they have in the past: "Traditionally, the East has been strong but now the parody is there for all to see." --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 08:06:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93D6121004264 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:06:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 907C41E60137; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:04:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 634C21E60136 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:04:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EA7E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 9:00:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12956848 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 09:00:01 -0400 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h93CxZi20961 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:59:35 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.129.325a63ae (2612) for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:59:12 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <129.325a63ae.2caecca0@aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:59:12 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Theological Question To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/3/2003 7:38:35 AM Central Daylight Time, maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU writes: Do you think Spencer's life would be more if I took him to the Catholic Church to be blessed on Saturday afternoon and to the Episcopal Church to be blessed on Sunday afternoon? It wouldn't hurt; might help. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 08:07:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93D7121004270 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:07:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 311691E60137; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:05:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00CDC1E60136 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:05:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EA7F4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 9:01:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12957024 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 09:01:03 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h93D12i21283 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 09:01:02 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 09:01:02 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 09:00:47 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Theological Question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h93D7121004270 Why the hell not ? What do you have to lose ? Besides, it might be fun. Take pictures. BrP >>> maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU 10/03/03 08:28AM >>> Do you think Spencer's life would be more if I took him to the Catholic Church to be blessed on Saturday afternoon and to the Episcopal Church to be blessed on Sunday afternoon? Is it fair to double-dip? Would St. Francis approve? --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 08:14:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93DEV21004302 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:14:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 122791E6016E; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:12:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8AA71E60137 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:12:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EA82E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 9:08:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12957462 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 09:08:33 -0400 Received: from web20503.mail.yahoo.com (web20503.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.138]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h93D8Wi22177 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 09:08:32 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 06:08:32 PDT Message-ID: <20031003130832.97053.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 06:08:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Eurdora To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F7D53FB.BC517874@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Since we've discussed EW before and some of you are > fans of her > writings, you might be interested in this newspaper > story about her > house: > > http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0310/03/m01.html > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Neat! Thank you. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 08:15:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93DF621004338 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:15:06 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4F8F01E60137; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:13:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B1221E60136 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:13:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EA847@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 9:09:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12957532 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 09:09:08 -0400 Received: from fe2.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h93D98i22261 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 09:09:08 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.199] (HELO bc.edu) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.1) with ESMTP id 31771221 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 09:08:48 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7D74E0.7040304@bc.edu> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 09:08:48 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Theological Question References: <200310031228.h93CSTcN020060@ra.msstate.edu> In-Reply-To: <200310031228.h93CSTcN020060@ra.msstate.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I think that Spencer's life is already sufficiently for having been adopted by you. Anything else is icing on the cake. Of course, a lot of people believe that more is better where cake and icing are concerned. Rita L. Natalie Maynor wrote: >Do you think Spencer's life would be more if I took him >to the Catholic Church to be blessed on Saturday afternoon and to >the Episcopal Church to be blessed on Sunday afternoon? Is it >fair to double-dip? Would St. Francis approve? > --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) > > -- Rita Leonard Information Technology Systems Services O'Neill Library 544 Phone: 617-552-3403 Email: rita.leonard@bc.edu "Whether you believe you can do a thing or not, you are right." Henry Ford From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 08:17:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93DH121004355 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:17:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 73F1F1E6017F; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:15:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 460671E60178 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:15:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EA82E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 9:11:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12957596 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 09:11:03 -0400 Received: from web20501.mail.yahoo.com (web20501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.136]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h93DB2i22505 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 09:11:03 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 06:11:02 PDT Message-ID: <20031003131102.48407.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 06:11:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Theological Question To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200310031228.h93CSTcN020060@ra.msstate.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Do you think Spencer's life would be more if > I took him > to the Catholic Church to be blessed on Saturday > afternoon and to > the Episcopal Church to be blessed on Sunday > afternoon? Is it > fair to double-dip? Would St. Francis approve? > --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) St. Francis was many times overheard to say, "Cover all the bases." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 08:18:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93DI021004358 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:18:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9BF0A1E60137; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:16:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E4A71E60136 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:16:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EA83D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 9:12:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12957713 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 09:12:02 -0400 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h93DC2i22760 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 09:12:02 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 06:12:01 PDT Message-ID: <20031003131201.73635.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 06:12:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: More from the SDN To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200310031231.h93CVMge021845@ra.msstate.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > The MSU soccer coach is being quoted about how the > SEC-West teams > are doing better than they have in the past: > "Traditionally, the > East has been strong but now the parody is there for > all to see." > --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) Seriously?? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 09:52:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93EqR21005207 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 09:52:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 466181E6017F; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 09:50:32 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173021E60061 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 09:50:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EAC10@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:46:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12967014 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:46:27 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h93EkRi09828 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:46:27 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h93EkKKI013348 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 09:46:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001001c389be$25e71a80$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Morning Mist Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 09:53:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h93EqR21005207 I overslept. Then I sat staring at the computer screen for a long time, reading morning headlines, sipping coffee. One headline read "Bill banning abortion procedure advances", and I sat wondering who is Bill Banning. It's gonna be a long day. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 10:03:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93F3F21005348 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:03:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1C0F01E60170; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:01:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E17D01E60061 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:01:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018C4E5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:57:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12968129 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:57:16 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h93EvGi12397 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:57:16 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h93EvFHL030906 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 07:57:16 -0700 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h93EvEjD030888 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 07:57:15 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031003075510.00a66c60@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 07:55:30 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Morning Mist In-Reply-To: <001001c389be$25e71a80$facadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:53 AM 10/3/2003 -0500, you wrote: >I overslept. Then I sat staring at the computer >screen for a long time, reading morning headlines, sipping coffee. One >headline read >"Bill banning abortion procedure advances", >and I sat wondering who is Bill Banning. > We'll never know. He was aborted. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 10:05:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93F5S21005357 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:05:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 602CE1E6018B; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:03:33 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B1E11E60181 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:03:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EAC91@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:59:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12968280 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:59:29 -0400 Received: from smtp03.nyc.untd.com (outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com [64.136.20.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h93ExSi12758 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:59:29 -0400 Received: (qmail 13921 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2003 14:59:22 -0000 Received: from 01-042.093.popsite.net (HELO computer) (64.24.154.42) by smtp03.nyc.untd.com with SMTP; 3 Oct 2003 14:59:22 -0000 Message-ID: <000501c38987$cbc0b420$2a9a1840@computer> Reply-To: From: To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: John Hannum's death Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 04:24:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Hannum, 53, died suddenly of heart failure Monday afternoon. Postmortem revealed a well-advanced lung cancer that would have meant a lingering, miserable end for him. There is a perfunctory obituary in today's Lexington Herald-Leader (kentucky.com). I hope to post a reminiscence to the list in a little while. He is being cremated and his remains and effects sent to his father in Pensacola. I haven't been reading Words-L at all lately, but I still consider myself a member of the community, as did poor John. Send me private mail if you want to; I try to look every other day or so. brad (Brad Grissom) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 10:21:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93FLh21005522 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:21:43 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8A9C61E60181; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:19:48 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C1B1E60170 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:19:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0018C58A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 11:15:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12969774 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 11:15:36 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h93FFai16185 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 11:15:36 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018C591@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 11:15:35 -0400 Message-Id: <200310031515.h93FFai16185@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 11:15:35 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Theological Question To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 07:28:29 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Do you think Spencer's life would be more if I took him >to the Catholic Church to be blessed on Saturday afternoon and to >the Episcopal Church to be blessed on Sunday afternoon? Is it >fair to double-dip? Would St. Francis approve? > --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) I think that he would strongly recommend it, since he felt - didn't he? that being close to God's creatures increased one's sanctity. So not only would Spencer be bless, but all the people in both congregations would have increased blessness from being in contact with him. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 10:45:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93Fju21005715 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:45:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A08C91E6013D; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:44:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A62E1E60138 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:44:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0018C67A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 11:39:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12972273 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 11:39:57 -0400 Received: from web20506.mail.yahoo.com (web20506.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h93Fdvi21693 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 11:39:57 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 08:39:53 PDT Message-ID: <20031003153953.67558.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:39:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Morning Mist To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <001001c389be$25e71a80$facadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > I overslept. Then I sat staring at the computer > screen for a long time, reading morning headlines, > sipping coffee. One headline read > "Bill banning abortion procedure advances", > and I sat wondering who is Bill Banning. He is running for governor of CA. > > It's gonna be a long day. Maybe not. Chin up! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 10:47:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93Flo21005734 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:47:50 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1DEAA1E6013D; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:45:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E110A1E60138 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:45:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EAE46@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 11:41:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12972515 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 11:41:50 -0400 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h93Ffoi22358 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 11:41:50 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 08:41:50 PDT Message-ID: <20031003154150.93551.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:41:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Theological Question To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200310031515.h93FFai16185@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I think that he would strongly recommend it, since > he felt - didn't he? that > being close to God's creatures increased one's > sanctity. So not only would > Spencer be bless, but all the people in both > congregations would have > increased blessness from being in contact with him. > > clo And if Spencer attended a football game, he could be cannonized. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 10:50:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93FoB21005749 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:50:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BCF1D1E60170; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:48:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB8F1E6013D for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:48:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EAE6F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 11:44:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12972759 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 11:44:12 -0400 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h93FiCi23133 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 11:44:12 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.18.35f96b3b (18403) for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 11:43:59 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <18.35f96b3b.2caef33f@aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 11:43:59 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Theological Question To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/3/2003 10:42:14 AM Central Daylight Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << And if Spencer attended a football game, he could be cannonized. >> Then you'd have to change his name to "Boom-Boom." Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 10:52:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93FqC21005756 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:52:12 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 804321E6013D; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:50:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E42B1E60138 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:50:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EAE8F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 11:46:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12973247 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 11:46:13 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h93FkC124191 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 11:46:13 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 299682B8E8; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:46:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0283B2B559 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:46:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:46:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: City Scape Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I wonder if anybody has ever made a time lapse kind of sequence, showing city buildings rising here, rising there, rising everywhere until the camera has almost no light because of all the looming towers. I moved into this office with a westish view of the city and hills, four years ago - now I'm getting walled in, yeeeiiiiiiiiiii . Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 10:58:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93FwV21005839 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:58:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 601F31E6018F; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:56:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32E591E6018B for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:56:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EAEDC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 11:52:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12973815 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 11:52:32 -0400 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h93FqV125758 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 11:52:31 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1a1.1aedf044 (18403); Fri, 3 Oct 2003 11:52:17 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1a1.1aedf044.2caef531@aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 11:52:17 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] John Hannum's death To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU, bogris01@NETZERO.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/3/2003 9:59:40 AM Central Daylight Time, bogris01@NETZERO.NET writes: << John Hannum, 53, died suddenly of heart failure Monday afternoon. >> Thanks, Brad; we've missed him. We're missing you, too. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 11:06:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93G6u21005957 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 11:06:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 626A31E6013D; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 11:05:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34DE91E6013B for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 11:05:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EAF68@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 12:00:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12975151 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 12:00:57 -0400 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h93G0u127884 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 12:00:56 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 09:00:52 PDT Message-ID: <20031003160052.55400.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 09:00:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Theological Question To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <18.35f96b3b.2caef33f@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > In a message dated 10/3/2003 10:42:14 AM Central > Daylight Time, > lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: > << > And if Spencer attended a football game, he could be > cannonized. > >> > > Then you'd have to change his name to "Boom-Boom." 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Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 12:00:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93H0I21006422 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 12:00:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 43EA71E60143; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 11:58:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1266A1E60141 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 11:58:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EB182@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 12:54:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12979750 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 12:54:19 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h93GsG104475 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 12:54:16 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h93GsFRP028523 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:54:15 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h93GsEht028521 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:54:15 +0200 Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:54:14 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: City Scape Message-ID: <20031003165414.GA28508@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin: = I wonder if anybody has ever made a time lapse kind of sequence, showing = city buildings rising here, rising there, rising everywhere until the = camera has almost no light because of all the looming towers. = = I moved into this office with a westish view of the city and hills, four = years ago - now I'm getting walled in, yeeeiiiiiiiiiii . = = Ann This is like the bad dream in "Sick Puppy" which is what I'm reading now. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 12:11:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93HBD21006520 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 12:11:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5D1571E6013F; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 12:09:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ADC21E60068 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 12:09:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0018C984@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:05:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12980839 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:04:49 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h93H4n106479 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:04:49 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 4C3A22B563; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:04:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DCFD2B559 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:04:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:04:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: FW: Bush/Cheney Bumper Stickers (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Bush/Cheney '04: Four More Wars! > > Bush/Cheney '04: Apocalypse Now! > > > > Bush/Cheney '04: Compassionate Colonialism > > > > Bush/Cheney '04: The economy's stupid! > > Bush/Cheney '04: This time, elect us! > > Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 12:17:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93HH821006589 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 12:17:08 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DB6B01E6013F; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 12:15:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A93C51E60068 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 12:15:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0018C9C4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:11:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12981791 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:11:08 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h93HB8108693 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:11:08 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h93HB7f19279 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 12:11:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id B716316B4; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 12:11:07 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 12:11:07 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: John Hannum's death Message-ID: <20031003171107.GA21961@pobox.com> References: <000501c38987$cbc0b420$2a9a1840@computer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000501c38987$cbc0b420$2a9a1840@computer> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02003-10-03 | Brad Grissom writes: > John Hannum, 53, died suddenly of heart failure Monday afternoon. > Postmortem revealed a well-advanced lung cancer that would have > meant a lingering, miserable end for him. There is a perfunctory > obituary in today's Lexington Herald-Leader (kentucky.com). I > hope to post a reminiscence to the list in a little while. He is > being cremated and his remains and effects sent to his father in > Pensacola. I am sorry to hear that. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 12:18:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93HI421006602 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 12:18:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D2D1B1E6013F; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 12:16:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5EED1E60068 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 12:16:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EB252@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:12:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12981882 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:12:04 -0400 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h93HC4108904 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:12:04 -0400 Received: from FALCON-195.isc.upenn.edu (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB0DFE3 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:12:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20031003131117.028ade78@pobox.upenn.edu> X-Sender: plotkina@pobox.upenn.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 13:12:03 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "Alec D. Plotkin" Subject: Re: John Hannum's death In-Reply-To: <000501c38987$cbc0b420$2a9a1840@computer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:24 AM 10/3/2003 -0400, you wrote: >John Hannum, 53, died suddenly of heart failure Monday afternoon. >Postmortem revealed a well-advanced lung cancer that would have >meant a lingering, miserable end for him. There is a perfunctory >obituary in today's Lexington Herald-Leader (kentucky.com). I >hope to post a reminiscence to the list in a little while. He is >being cremated and his remains and effects sent to his father in >Pensacola. > >I haven't been reading Words-L at all lately, but I still >consider myself a member of the community, as did poor John. >Send me private mail if you want to; I try to look every other >day or so. > >brad (Brad Grissom) Ouch! alec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 12:27:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93HRU21006690 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 12:27:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 341161E60143; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 12:25:35 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0567F1E60141 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 12:25:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EB2BD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:21:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12982720 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:21:31 -0400 Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.23]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h93HLU110786 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:21:30 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HM6007I8YRTTY@mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 13:19:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.24] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Fri, 03 Oct 2003 13:15:45 -0400 Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 13:15:45 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Subways To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris M: > > > And I'll be thinking of "Some Like It Hot" all day >now, > you rat. > > > > And I'll be thinking of Hotel del Coronado! > > Er, uh, why the del Coronado? > Am I missing something? Some of the scenes from SLIH were filmed there. We were there last Spring after MLA -- didn't stay there of course, but watched some playoff hockey at their beautiful bar and enjoyed a wonderful watermelon martini. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 12:30:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93HU121006739 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 12:30:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D51551E60143; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 12:28:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A32AE1E60141 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 12:28:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EB2DA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:24:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12982856 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:24:01 -0400 Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.17]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h93HO1111109 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:24:01 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HM6005F2YUFWD@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 13:20:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.24] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Fri, 03 Oct 2003 13:16:49 -0400 Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 13:16:49 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Alyce's Cubs To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Come to my house. I still have another can of hot fudge. > > I think I still have the directions, too! > > Are you going to the game tonight? The A's are winning right now. No way. It's FREEZING out there. Besides, the Phillies broke my heart this year. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 13:16:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93IGF21007194 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:16:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2828B1E60146; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:14:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAACA1E60143 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:14:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0018CBE7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:10:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12987486 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:10:14 -0400 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h93IAE121707 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:10:14 -0400 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h93IAAsV6692984 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:10:11 -0500 Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:10:10 -0500 (CDT) From: poor old johnny ray X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Theological Question In-Reply-To: <200310031228.h93CSTcN020060@ra.msstate.edu> Message-ID: References: <200310031228.h93CSTcN020060@ra.msstate.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.0.4.76838 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: >Would St. Francis approve? Interestingly, Francis's original Rule (which, for various reasons was never approved) can be read to specifically prohibit owning a pet. Take it away, Francesco: I enjoin all my friars, the clerics as much as the lay (brothers) (who are) going through the world or dwelling in places, that they in no manner have among them nor among another, nor in any other manner, any animal. And let it not be licit for them to ride (horseback), unless they be driven by infirmity or great necessity. http://www.franciscan-archive.org/patriarcha/opera/rules.html From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 13:22:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93IML21007206 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:22:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D31311E60148; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:20:25 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97D051E6010E for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:20:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EB50A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:16:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12988109 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:16:21 -0400 Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com (web20502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h93IGL123071 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:16:21 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 11:16:20 PDT Message-ID: <20031003181620.18679.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 11:16:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Theological Question To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- poor old johnny ray wrote: > Natalie: > >Would St. Francis approve? > > Interestingly, Francis's original Rule > (which, for various reasons was never > approved) can be read to specifically > prohibit owning a pet. > > Take it away, Francesco: > > I enjoin all my friars, the clerics as much as > the lay (brothers) (who are) going through the > world or dwelling in places, that they in no > manner have among them nor among another, nor > in any other manner, any animal. And let it > not be licit for them to ride (horseback), unless > they be driven by infirmity or great necessity. Did they eschew meat and dairy products? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 13:42:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93Igv21007428 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:42:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3FF8B1E60146; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:41:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C5A71E6010E for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:41:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0018CD00@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:36:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12990474 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:36:56 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h93Iau128446 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:36:56 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A5UnS-0000is-RW for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 14:36:59 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031003113446.040c76b8@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 11:39:01 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Theological Question In-Reply-To: References: <200310031228.h93CSTcN020060@ra.msstate.edu> <200310031228.h93CSTcN020060@ra.msstate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU poor old johnny ray writes, >Interestingly, Francis's original Rule (which, for various reasons was never >approved) can be read to specifically prohibit owning a pet. Except that the title of that paragraph is "Brothers Don't Ride Horseback": >Quod fratres non equitent > >Iniungo omnibus fratribus meis tam clericis quam laicis euntibus per >mundum vel morantibus in locis, quod nullo modo apud se nec apud alium nec >alio aliquo modo bestiam aliquam habeant. Nec eis liceat equitare, nisi >infirmitate vel magna necessitate cogantur. I'd want to see more argument that "bestiam" refers to any companion animal instead of just beasts of burden. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 13:50:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93Iot21007481 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:50:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DC5E91E60146; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:48:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A711D1E6010E for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:48:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EB65E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:44:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12991314 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:44:54 -0400 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h93Iisu30426 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:44:54 -0400 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h93IiosV3858596 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:44:50 -0500 Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:44:50 -0500 (CDT) From: poor old johnny ray X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Theological Question In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031003113446.040c76b8@mail.istori.com> Message-ID: References: <200310031228.h93CSTcN020060@ra.msstate.edu> <200310031228.h93CSTcN020060@ra.msstate.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031003113446.040c76b8@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.0.4.76838 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Peter Kaminski wrote: > >approved) can be read to specifically prohibit owning a pet. > > Except that the title of that paragraph is "Brothers Don't Ride Horseback": Right. 'Swhy I said "can be read to..." From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 13:57:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93Ivw21007523 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:57:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D65A11E6010E; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:56:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A70771E6006C for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:56:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EB6CF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:51:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12992245 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:51:57 -0400 Received: from web20513.mail.yahoo.com (web20513.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h93Ipvu32389 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:51:57 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20513.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 11:51:56 PDT Message-ID: <20031003185156.47785.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 11:51:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Theological Question To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031003113446.040c76b8@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I'd want to see more argument that "bestiam" refers > to any companion animal > instead of just beasts of burden. My husband the Religious One claims that, at one time in his life, after his conversion, St. Francis shared his humble abode with some type of "bestiam". ?? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 15:18:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93KIn21008339 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 15:18:49 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5050E1E60146; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 15:16:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 234C21E6006D for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 15:16:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EB9FF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 16:12:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13000412 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 16:12:47 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h93KClo18811 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 16:12:47 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 6A64C2B8D2; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD0082B613 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:12:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: Affirmations Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Does anybody else have clothing with affirmations sewed into them? I just noticed that this rag I picked up on sale a couple of months ago has this label (placed about where my mother used to sew on my name tags for summer camp)" "I am abundance." "I am supplied." I'm not kidding, that's what the little label says. And I didn't even get it at the Huge Woman's store! Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 16:06:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93L6K21008917 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 16:06:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8DF941E60157; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 16:04:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6113D1E60154 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 16:04:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EBBF7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 17:00:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13004940 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 17:00:18 -0400 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h93L0Io27931 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 17:00:18 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.6f.3d14dd3c (3858) for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 17:00:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <6f.3d14dd3c.2caf3d55@aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 17:00:05 EDT Subject: Re: Daisy To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/2/2003 8:44:34 PM, BrandyKitt@AOL.COM writes: >Maybe I should have named Daisy "Horse"? It wouldn't have been a bad idea! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 16:09:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93L9Q21008966 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 16:09:26 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6128E1E6015A; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 16:07:29 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32DF21E60157 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 16:07:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0018D248@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 17:03:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13006110 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 17:03:23 -0400 Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h93L3No29302 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 17:03:23 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.70.32cf2e06 (3858) for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 17:03:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <70.32cf2e06.2caf3e0e@aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 17:03:10 EDT Subject: Re: Subways To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/3/2003 12:51:59 AM, stevie@MULTINIX.COM writes: >And Indians know more about where I was born, SO THERE And remember what the dutch named new york after they discovered it! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 17:18:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93MIx21009635 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 17:18:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0EF821E60194; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 17:17:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB54A1E6018F for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 17:17:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EBF8E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:12:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13013708 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:12:57 -0400 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h93MCvo11310 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:12:57 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1e1.10fcb722 (17526) for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:12:45 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1e1.10fcb722.2caf4e5d@aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:12:45 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Theological Question To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/3/2003 11:01:19 AM Central Daylight Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > In a message dated 10/3/2003 10:42:14 AM Central > Daylight Time, > lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: > << > And if Spencer attended a football game, he could be > cannonized. > >> > > Then you'd have to change his name to "Boom-Boom." Is the world ready for another BB? >> Always. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 17:35:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93MZd21009802 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 17:35:39 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9A45F1E60196; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 17:33:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA3F1E60194 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 17:33:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EC014@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:29:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13014903 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:29:37 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h93MTao13722 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:29:37 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.231]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031003222933.VCAV24914.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:29:33 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7DF84C.41E0C808@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 17:29:32 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group , Brad Grissom Subject: Re: John Hannum's death References: <000501c38987$cbc0b420$2a9a1840@computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Oh my gosh. It's hard hearing about deaths of old people, even when you know they have lived long and happy lives and are ready to go. But it's really, really hard hearing about the unexpected death of a contemporary and friend. The part about the lung cancer makes pretty clear that this sudden death was good, of course, but that doesn't make it any less shocking. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 18:10:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93NAY21010207 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:10:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 63E2D1E60194; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:08:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 321511E60102 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:08:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EC0B1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:04:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13016486 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:04:31 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h93N4Vo16945 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:04:31 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.231]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031003230427.DNGT1781.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:04:27 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7E007B.FEFFE0C8@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 18:04:27 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group , Brad Grissom Subject: Re: John Hannum's death References: <000501c38987$cbc0b420$2a9a1840@computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Brad Grissom wrote: > I haven't been reading Words-L at all lately, but I still > consider myself a member of the community, as did poor John. I came back to the computer and read again the sad news and realized that I hadn't responded to this part. The idea that you might not be considered a member of the Words-L community is beyond insane. You are a nuclear Wordsler. And John should very certainly have considered himself a member of the community also. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 18:20:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93NKl21010314 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:20:48 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 071061E60194; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:18:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9C111E60158 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:18:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EC0DE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:14:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13016940 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:14:44 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h93NEio17789 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:14:44 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.231]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031003231440.CCOR1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:14:40 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7E02E0.C3C74D1B@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 18:14:40 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Theological Question References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: > > Why the hell not ? What do you have to lose ? Besides, it might be fun. What I (or Spencer) might have to lose is that it might be considered to do a double-dipping. St. Francis might not like it. And one should not consider the fun -- one should consider the . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 18:28:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93NSw21010391 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:28:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 046481E60197; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:27:00 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9FCD1E60194 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:26:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EC0E2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:22:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13017278 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:22:55 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h93NMto18671 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:22:55 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.231]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031003232251.CFBP1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:22:51 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7E04CB.C56EB17C@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 18:22:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Theological Question References: <200310031228.h93CSTcN020060@ra.msstate.edu> <3F7D74E0.7040304@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: > > I think that Spencer's life is already sufficiently for having > been adopted by you. Anything else is icing on the cake. You are kind, RitaL. > Of course, a > lot of people believe that more is better where cake and icing are > concerned. This is true. I'm wondering whether Spencer will be happy or unhappy if we are on a float in the homecoming parade. There was an e-mail call for volunteers today from the President of the Oktibbeha County Humane Society, saying ... will go grab it on Ra and insert it here: > Members, > > We have been requested to have about 5 folks and their dog who adopted > from the shelter ride on the Residence Hall Assoc's float, Friday Oct > 10th 4:30 til about 6:30. The advisor said they will drive you back to > where your car was at the beginning of the parade. They are dedicating > their float to OCHS with adoption and PetPals informational signs. This > will give us good visibility. I need to let the advisor know by late > Monday if we can get five together. Delisa at the Shelter has had a > very busy Friday and your giving me the information will help. If you > know of anyone who adopted and would have a good dog who would not be > stressed by the ride, please let me or them know to talk to me about > it. ************************ I replied to Diane saying that Spencer and I would do it if she couldn't find five other volunteers -- that he might be a bit squirmy out of interest in the activity but would not likely be stressed. I made it quite clear that we were emergency backups -- that we weren't seeking this opportunity to ride on a homecoming float. I also reminded her that Spencer was never in the shelter itself -- that he was fostered from the beginning since the shelter was full. But he was officially adopted from the OCHS. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 18:29:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93NT821010394 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:29:08 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7ADD51E60197; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:27:10 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C6551E60194 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:27:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EC0F1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:23:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13017284 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:23:06 -0400 Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (imo-r05.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h93NN5o18694 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:23:05 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.9f.3e5a4535 (4340) for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:22:55 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <9f.3e5a4535.2caf5ecf@aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:22:55 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Theological Question To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/3/2003 6:14:54 PM Central Daylight Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << What I (or Spencer) might have to lose is that it might be considered to do a double-dipping. >> Since Vatican II one can attend more than one Mass a day. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 18:30:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93NTx21010399 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:29:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DB9651E60197; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:28:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE1041E60194 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:28:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EC0F3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:23:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13017309 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:23:57 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h93NNvo18739 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:23:57 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.231]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031003232353.CFKH1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:23:53 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7E0509.9151BC56@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 18:23:53 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Theological Question References: <20031003131102.48407.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > fair to double-dip? Would St. Francis approve? > > --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) > > St. Francis was many times overheard to say, "Cover > all the bases." Thank you, Lynne! This knowledge makes all the difference. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 18:31:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93NVL21010430 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:31:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 13C0F1E60197; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:29:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D97E41E600F0 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:29:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EC111@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:25:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13017408 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:25:18 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h93NPIo18863 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:25:18 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.231]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031003232514.CFUW1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:25:14 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7E055A.3565D87A@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 18:25:14 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: More from the SDN References: <20031003131201.73635.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > > The MSU soccer coach is being quoted about how the > > SEC-West teams > > are doing better than they have in the past: > > "Traditionally, the > > East has been strong but now the parody is there for > > all to see." > > --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) > > Seriously?? I don't know anything about our soccer team, but I do know that our football team this year has been a hilarious parody of the game. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 18:34:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93NYD21010481 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:34:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 939D11E60198; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:32:15 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 609411E60197 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:32:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018D5DC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:28:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13017507 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:28:11 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h93NSAo19114 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:28:10 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.231]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031003232807.CGUU1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:28:07 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7E0607.1342D2AB@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 18:28:07 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Theological Question References: <200310031515.h93FFai16185@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >fair to double-dip? Would St. Francis approve? > > --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) > > I think that he would strongly recommend it, since he felt - didn't he? that > being close to God's creatures increased one's sanctity. So not only would > Spencer be bless, but all the people in both congregations would have > increased blessness from being in contact with him. I don't think all the people in the congregations are likely to be present. I think these events involve only the priest, the pets, and the pets' human companions. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 18:37:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93NbP21010515 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:37:25 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 833D91E60199; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:35:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 510C71E60198 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:35:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0018D5DB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:31:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13017721 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:31:23 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h93NVMo19532 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:31:22 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.231]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031003233118.CHSW1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:31:18 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7E06C7.814ECEE9@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 18:31:19 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Theological Question References: <20031003154150.93551.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > And if Spencer attended a football game, he could be > cannonized. This makes me miss Bernardykins, who did not have to enter the stadium to be freaked out by the cannon-fire, which was quite audible at our house. Spencer is much more macho about such matters. I wonder about his hearing, though. I said inside the house late this afternoon, "Is there a dog who wants to go for a walk," and he, lying on the decklet, apparently didn't hear me. I screamed it out by an open window, and he came racing in. It did make me wonder about his hearing. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 18:39:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93NdR21010542 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:39:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7F2011E60197; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:37:29 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C7731E600F0 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:37:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EC13F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:33:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13017879 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:33:25 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h93NXOo19791 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:33:24 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.231]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031003233320.CIJU1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:33:20 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7E0741.6ABF6C16@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 18:33:21 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: FW: Bush/Cheney Bumper Stickers (fwd) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin wrote: > > > > Bush/Cheney '04: Four More Wars! > > > Bush/Cheney '04: Apocalypse Now! > > > > > > Bush/Cheney '04: Compassionate Colonialism > > > > > > Bush/Cheney '04: The economy's stupid! > > > Bush/Cheney '04: This time, elect us! I've wondered why there are no bumper stickers -- or at least none I've seen -- saying "Support Our Troops! Fire Bush!" -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 18:43:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93Nhx21010572 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:43:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7E2C11E60198; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:42:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E5301E60197 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:42:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0018D612@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:37:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13018158 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:37:48 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h93Nbmo20331 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:37:48 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.231]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031003233744.CJTG1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:37:44 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7E0848.F7827317@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 18:37:44 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Theological Question References: <200310031228.h93CSTcN020060@ra.msstate.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU poor old johnny ray quoted: > I enjoin all my friars, the clerics as much as > the lay (brothers) (who are) going through the > world or dwelling in places, that they in no > manner have among them nor among another, nor > in any other manner, any animal. And let it > not be licit for them to ride (horseback), unless > they be driven by infirmity or great necessity. Hmm. I would need more context to make a interpretation, but that strikes me on the surface as being a statement against having animals for meat or droppings/squirtings or for beasts of burden, not against companions. I can see, however, that the literal wording above might be construed as excluding companions. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 18:46:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93Nk321010609 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:46:03 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 57EFF1E60198; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:44:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20F011E60197 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:44:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EC14A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:40:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13018286 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:40:00 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h93Ne0o20632 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:40:00 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.231]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031003233956.CKJU1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:39:56 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7E08CD.7CD1EBB2@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 18:39:57 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Affirmations References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin wrote: > "I am abundance." > "I am supplied." > > I'm not kidding, that's what the little label says. And I didn't even get > it at the Huge Woman's store! I've bought sweaters at a mall chain named "Capacity" with that word (capacity) ensewed in them. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 18:46:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93Nkn21010614 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:46:49 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8002D1E6019A; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:44:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DD291E60199 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:44:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EC16C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:40:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13018314 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:40:47 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h93Neko20746 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:40:46 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.231]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031003234043.CKPI1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:40:43 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7E08FB.6CBAA3CE@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 18:40:43 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Theological Question References: <9f.3e5a4535.2caf5ecf@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > << > What I (or Spencer) might have to lose is that it might be considered > to do a double-dipping. > >> > > Since Vatican II one can attend more than one Mass a day. Whew! It might be ok. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 18:53:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h93Nri21010662 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:53:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6BACE1E60199; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:51:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D9EF1E60197 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:51:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0018D63F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:47:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13018612 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:47:41 -0400 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h93Nlfo21399 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:47:41 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.7b.1a299c58 (4459) for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:47:33 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <7b.1a299c58.2caf6495@aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:47:33 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Theological Question To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/3/2003 6:31:34 PM Central Daylight Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << This makes me miss Bernardykins, who did not have to enter the stadium to be freaked out by the cannon-fire, which was quite audible at our house. >> Daisy's freaked out by cars, so much so that she pulled me off my feet yesterday when we went to get the mail. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 19:12:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h940CK21010855 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:12:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 393661E60161; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:10:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BF6D1E60150 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:10:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EC1E1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:06:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13019419 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:06:17 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9406Ho22966 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:06:17 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.231]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031004000613.CSDW1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:06:13 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7E0EF5.E2724CE1@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 19:06:13 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Cc: Brad Grissom Subject: John Hannum Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thoughts, feelings, memories are roiling around in my head, and I wish I could put them into appropriate words. But I can't. At least not right now. One thought is about how people touch each other, influence each other. John Hannum has left imprints on my brain, imprints which quite likely affect my dealings with other people and thus influence other people. Iow, John's life caused ripples that go who knows where. Some of those brain imprints are related to his Peace Corps stories and to his steering me to a New Yorker article that I went to the library to read about a recently returned Peace Corps volunteer in a restaurant. Do y'all remember that story? As for feelings, they are many -- from happiness that I had the opportunity to know John to immense sadness at this news. And then there are specific memories -- first meeting him ftf at GoatRoast and thinking that John looked like what I had thought Norman would look like and that Norman looked like what I had thought John would look like, driving with John to pick up the bbq that day and talking about all kinds of stuff, worry about him when I was in Lexington, a wonderful note (snail-mail) I got from him after his mother died, and on and on. Probably none of the above makes much sense. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 19:14:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h940EQ21010870 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:14:26 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1027D1E6019A; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:12:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D330A1E60197 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:12:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EC1C4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:08:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13019448 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:08:23 -0400 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9408No23159 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:08:23 -0400 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.11.6+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id h9408Mf01195 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:08:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 5BABA16B4; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:08:22 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:08:22 -0500 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: The Cremaster of Architecture Message-ID: <20031004000822.GA18840@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Can't describe this guy in any other way: http://www.philiprknixon.com/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 19:16:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h940GM21010906 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:16:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AB41A1E60197; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:14:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 745531E60150 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:14:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EC1EC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:10:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13019524 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:10:19 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h940AJo23374 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:10:19 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[66.31.143.74]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <200310040010130110084pkge> (Authid: adamh1); Sat, 4 Oct 2003 00:10:13 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: John Hannum's death Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:10:12 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <000501c38987$cbc0b420$2a9a1840@computer> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > John Hannum, 53, died suddenly of heart failure Monday afternoon. Man, that stinks. I'll look forward to your remembrance, Brad. --Adam adamh1@comcast.net From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 19:34:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h940Y621011124 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:34:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6F6951E60161; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:32:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D471E6015F for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:32:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EC239@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:28:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13020261 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:28:04 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h940Rpo24946 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:27:51 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.231]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031004002747.GFMG1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:27:47 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7E1404.8506BB06@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 19:27:48 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Theological Question References: <7b.1a299c58.2caf6495@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > Daisy's freaked out by cars, so much so that she pulled me off my > feet yesterday when we went to get the mail. Though it is obviously not good that you got pulled off your feet, it's otherwise good for a dog to be freaked out by cars. If she ever is accidentally outside unleashed, being freaked out by cars is a very good thing. Do dogs exist who aren't freaked out by vacuum cleaners? That's one fear that Spencer shares with Bernard. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 19:39:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h940dE21011191 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:39:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2F48B1E60161; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:37:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3A6E1E6015F for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:37:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0018D6EC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:33:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13020373 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:33:11 -0400 Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (imo-r05.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h940XBo25376 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:33:11 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.8f.32be7ee4 (25098) for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:33:05 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <8f.32be7ee4.2caf6f40@aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:33:04 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Theological Question To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/3/2003 7:28:25 PM Central Daylight Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << Do dogs exist who aren't freaked out by vacuum cleaners? >> Yes. Daisy is not scared by our vacuum, but we have a quiet Kenmore. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 19:47:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h940lr21011303 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:47:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 09E521E60161; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:45:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C90E81E6015F for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:45:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EC24B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:41:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13020731 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:41:50 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h940fno26481 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:41:49 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.231]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031004004146.ZJCZ20055.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:41:46 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7E174A.4F8C3273@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 19:41:46 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Theological Question References: <8f.32be7ee4.2caf6f40@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > Yes. Daisy is not scared by our vacuum, but we have a > quiet Kenmore. Like it or not, you have just done a good Sears ad. :-) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 19:48:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h940mS21011306 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:48:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5581D1E60161; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:46:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2833E1E6015F for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:46:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EC24C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:42:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13020737 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:42:25 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h940gPo26571 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:42:25 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h940gOW1023593 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 17:42:24 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h940gMWq023573; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 17:42:23 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031003174221.00a2e5d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 17:43:40 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: John Hannum In-Reply-To: <3F7E0EF5.E2724CE1@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:06 PM 10/3/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Thoughts, feelings, memories are roiling around in my head, and I wish I >could put them into appropriate words. I fondly remember Brad and him at SlugFest. Both great story tellers. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 19:51:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h940pE21011314 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:51:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 058AA1E6019A; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:49:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C35521E60197 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:49:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EC250@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:45:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13020786 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:45:11 -0400 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h940jBo26938 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:45:11 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.43.22e77dec (25098) for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:44:53 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <43.22e77dec.2caf7205@aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:44:53 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Theological Question To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/3/2003 7:42:16 PM Central Daylight Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << Like it or not, you have just done a good Sears ad. :-) >> Most of the people I knew at Sears are good people. But it took three (two managers and one co-worker) to make my life Hell there. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 20:06:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9416N21011448 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:06:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 230301E6019A; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:04:25 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E89F51E60161 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:04:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EC292@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:00:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13021306 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:00:20 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9410Ko28953 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:00:20 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.231]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031004010018.MVFL1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:00:18 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7E1BA0.29E492F7@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 20:00:16 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: The Inside Track Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm suddenly an inside tracker re a state political candidate. I'm very much for her, but I didn't anticipate becoming an . It started at the meeting a week or so ago of the Federation of Democratic Women, an organization I had not been involved with before, partially because of lack of time, partially because I've never really been into gender-separated stuff -- like what's the point? But I liked very much the meeting I went to. It's a hard-working, great group of people. Some males were present at the meeting, including a lawyer who is the regional head of the campaign for this Lt. Gov. candidate. He had brought some yard signs but no bumper stickers. I asked him at the end of the meeting about a bumper sticker, and he said that he would have some within a few days. He wrote down my name and phone number, and his secretary called me when the bumper stickers came in. I went and picked up seven, one for my car, six to give away (which was easily done). The secretary called me back a little while later and said that they would be getting more soon and that they would let me know when they had arrived. So today I picked up thirty more and had a long conversation with the lawyer about the goods and bads of the campaign. He said that he was going to call Senator (state senator) Blackmon tonight and tell her what I had said. And that struck me as funny -- as in my sudden role as . I think they're liking my white skin. Although I really hate to think that anybody these days votes on the basis of skin color, I'm sure that some people do. So I recognize the sense of their wanting a honkie to spread bumper stickers to other honkies and to inform the candidate of honkie thoughts. Will write more later perhaps about some of the strange goings-on re the Lt. Gov race. -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 20:06:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9416N21011445 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:06:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C5B1A1E60197; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:04:24 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C151E60161 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:04:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018D757@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:00:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13021302 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:00:20 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9410Jo28943 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:00:19 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HM7JV500.08X for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 17:54:41 -0700 From: "John Williams" To: English Language Discussion Group Message-ID: <2cf5ab2d1398.2d13982cf5ab@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 17:54:41 -0700 X-Mailer: Netscape Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en Subject: Re: John Hannum X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > And then there are specific memories -- first meeting him > ftf at GoatRoast and thinking that John looked like what I had thought > Norman would look like and that Norman looked like what I had thought > John would look like, driving with John to pick up the bbq that > day And there was the second-floor after-hours bourbon-swapping party in the dorm at GoatRoast where Hannum held forth for hours with tales of Darkest Africa, to the interest and amusement of all present. And let us not forget Slugfest. > Probably none of the above makes much sense. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) No, it does. Very much so. God Rest His Soul. (I also remain firmly attached to the idea that he was Not What He Seemed, but I'll sit on that for the nonce.) JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 20:21:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h941Kx21011604 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:20:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5CFCF1E60161; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:19:00 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC981E60069 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:19:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0018D764@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:14:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13021614 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:14:55 -0400 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h941Eto30168 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:14:55 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 18:14:54 PDT Message-ID: <20031004011454.11919.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:14:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Affirmations To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > "I am abundance." > "I am supplied." > > I'm not kidding, that's what the little label says. > And I didn't even get > it at the Huge Woman's store! I've never seen anything like that, rags to riches. Is this the label of the clothing maker? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 20:23:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h941NG21011640 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:23:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A26F61E60161; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:21:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 731571E60069 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:21:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EC2C5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:17:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13021663 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:17:13 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h941HCo30321 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:17:12 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.231]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031004011709.DQUF1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:17:09 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7E1F95.9AC82EBD@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 20:17:09 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: John Hannum References: <2cf5ab2d1398.2d13982cf5ab@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > > Probably none of the above makes much sense. > > No, it does. Very much so. God Rest His Soul. Thank you, JMW. And I am not really surprised that you understood my incoherent ramblings. You and I may disagree about politics, but I think we are somehow in tune re . > (I also remain firmly attached to the idea that he was Not What He > Seemed, but I'll sit on that for the nonce.) I want to know more about your idea. You can sit on it for the nonce, but I am going to prod you for later unseating. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 20:24:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h941OS21011665 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:24:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EC4EB1E6019A; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:22:29 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEE2C1E60161 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:22:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EC2AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:18:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13021705 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:18:25 -0400 Received: from web20501.mail.yahoo.com (web20501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.136]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h941IPo30415 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:18:25 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 18:18:24 PDT Message-ID: <20031004011824.47013.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:18:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Theological Question To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F7E02E0.C3C74D1B@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > What I (or Spencer) might have to lose is that it > might be considered > to do a double-dipping. St. Francis might > not like it. And > one should not consider the fun -- one should > consider the > . I would imagine God - and by extension, Francesco - has his fun moments. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 20:27:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h941Rp21011689 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:27:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1E6411E6019B; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:25:53 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E49581E60161 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:25:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0018D776@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:21:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13021813 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:21:48 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h941Lmo30709 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:21:48 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.231]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031004012144.DSEC1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:21:44 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7E20A8.331DEB41@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 20:21:44 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Inside Track References: <3F7E1BA0.29E492F7@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU PS: I don't think I made clear why this was funny. It was that all I had wanted when I first spoke to Roy, the lawyer, was one, lone bumper sticker -- as in for just my car. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 20:29:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h941TB21011694 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:29:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2292E1E6019C; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:27:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E95AA1E6019A for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:27:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EC2BD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:23:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13021861 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:23:08 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h941N8o30860 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:23:08 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h941N88b031599 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:23:08 -0400 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h941N8fC026339 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:23:08 -0400 Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 21:25:02 -0400 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: John Hannum's death Message-ID: <1919886359.1065216302@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <000501c38987$cbc0b420$2a9a1840@computer> References: <000501c38987$cbc0b420$2a9a1840@computer> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --On Friday, October 03, 2003 4:24 AM -0400 Brad Grissom wrote: > John Hannum, 53, died suddenly of heart failure Monday afternoon. The Major will be greatly missed by many. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 20:30:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h941UH21011721 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:30:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DDB8D1E6019D; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:28:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6F1D1E6019C for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:28:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EC2DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:24:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13021877 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:24:14 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h941OEo30899 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:24:14 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.231]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031004012410.DSXP1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:24:10 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7E213A.448B57C5@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 20:24:10 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Theological Question References: <20031004011824.47013.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > one should not consider the fun -- one should > > consider the > > . > > I would imagine God - and by extension, Francesco - > has his fun moments. I certainly hope so. A humorless heaven sounds drab indeed. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 20:30:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h941Ue21011724 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:30:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 46CF11E6019C; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:28:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19C071E6019A for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:28:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EC2BF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:24:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13021884 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:24:36 -0400 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h941Oao30910 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:24:36 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 18:24:35 PDT Message-ID: <20031004012435.95277.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:24:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Theological Question To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F7E0607.1342D2AB@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I don't think all the people in the congregations > are likely to be > present. I think these events involve only the > priest, the pets, and > the pets' human companions. Is this bless a sprinkling affair? How will Spencer (Boom Boom) Maynor react to that? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 20:35:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h941Z821011757 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:35:09 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ED6F91E6019C; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:33:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0BB31E6019A for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:33:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EC2E6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:29:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13021970 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:29:05 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h941T5o31130 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:29:05 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.231]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031004012901.DUJP1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:29:01 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7E225D.830AA842@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 20:29:01 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Theological Question References: <20031004012435.95277.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > I don't think all the people in the congregations > > are likely to be > > present. I think these events involve only the > > priest, the pets, and > > the pets' human companions. > > Is this bless a sprinkling affair? How will Spencer > (Boom Boom) Maynor react to that? I'm not sure (in answer to either of the above). I've seen newspaper stories about these blessings many times, and I think some have included pictures, but I don't know for sure whether it's a christening or a dunking-baptism or what. I think not a total immersion. I'm not sure whether water is involved at all. Where is Bethany when we need her? I bet she's screwing around with stuff like unpacking boxes instead of being here for us. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 20:36:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h941ad21011763 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:36:39 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B733E1E6019D; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:34:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88EFE1E6019C for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:34:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0018D788@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:30:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13021984 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:29:51 -0400 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h941Too31151 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:29:50 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 18:29:46 PDT Message-ID: <20031004012946.96308.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:29:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Theological Question To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <7b.1a299c58.2caf6495@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Daisy's freaked out by cars, so much so that she > pulled me off my > feet yesterday when we went to get the mail. > > Evelyn Duncan > brandykitt@aol.com > http://www.thehungersite.com Well anyway, if she ever gets "aloose" from you, she'll probably not chase cars. Was she suitably embarrassed after she pulled you down? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 20:38:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h941bx21011774 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:37:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 036E41E6019C; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:36:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9A681E6019A for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:36:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EC2DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:31:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13022040 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:31:56 -0400 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h941Vuo31287 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:31:56 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 18:31:55 PDT Message-ID: <20031004013155.34486.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:31:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: John Hannum To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F7E0EF5.E2724CE1@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Thoughts, feelings, memories are roiling around in > my head, and I wish I > could put them into appropriate words. But I can't. > At least not right > now. One thought is about how people touch each > other, influence each > other. John Hannum has left imprints on my brain, > imprints which quite > likely affect my dealings with other people and thus > influence other > people. Iow, John's life caused ripples that go who > knows where. Some > of those brain imprints are related to his Peace > Corps stories and to > his steering me to a New Yorker article that I went > to the library to > read about a recently returned Peace Corps volunteer > in a restaurant. > Do y'all remember that story? As for feelings, they > are many -- from > happiness that I had the opportunity to know John to > immense sadness at > this news. And then there are specific memories -- > first meeting him > ftf at GoatRoast and thinking that John looked like > what I had thought > Norman would look like and that Norman looked like > what I had thought > John would look like, driving with John to pick up > the bbq that day and > talking about all kinds of stuff, worry about him > when I was in > Lexington, a wonderful note (snail-mail) I got from > him after his > mother died, and on and on. > > Probably none of the above makes much sense. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Rambling serves a purpose, too. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 20:49:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h941nL21011927 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:49:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5015C1E6019D; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:46:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21FAF1E60077 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:46:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EC319@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:42:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13022409 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:42:21 -0400 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h941gLo32046 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:42:21 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 18:42:20 PDT Message-ID: <20031004014220.99553.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:42:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: The Cremaster of Architecture To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031004000822.GA18840@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Tushar Samant wrote: > Can't describe this guy in any other way: > > http://www.philiprknixon.com/ I like some of them a lot, especially #181, for Sunday drives on Lake Michigan. The buildings are good, too, for the most part. T.S., what is the name of the Dutch architect who had such a dramatic influence in the Chicago skyline? I heard him described this morning, but never heard his name. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 20:52:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h941q421011956 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:52:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ECF781E6019C; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:50:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BADED1E60077 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:50:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0018D7B7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:46:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13022529 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:46:01 -0400 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h941k0o32300 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:46:00 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h941jxw4019318 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:45:59 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3F7E261E.6080608@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 20:45:02 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Theological Question References: <20031004012435.95277.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> <3F7E225D.830AA842@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Lynne Weber wrote: > > >>>I don't think all the people in the congregations >>>are likely to be >>>present. I think these events involve only the >>>priest, the pets, and >>>the pets' human companions. >>> >>Is this bless a sprinkling affair? How will Spencer >>(Boom Boom) Maynor react to that? >> > > I'm not sure (in answer to either of the above). I've seen newspaper > stories about these blessings many times, and I think some have included > pictures, but I don't know for sure whether it's a christening or a > dunking-baptism or what. I think not a total immersion. I'm not sure > whether water is involved at all. Where is Bethany when we need her? I > bet she's screwing around with stuff like unpacking boxes instead of > being here for us. It's a blessing, not a baptism. Even Episcopalians don't baptize animals. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 20:53:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h941rd21011971 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:53:39 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A863E1E6019C; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:51:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ACAF1E60077 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:51:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EC31E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:47:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13022584 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:47:36 -0400 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h941lZo32388 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:47:35 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h941lYw4020717 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:47:34 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3F7E267D.3090001@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 20:46:37 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: John Hannum's death References: <000501c38987$cbc0b420$2a9a1840@computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm sad to learn this. John was cool shit. I'll sure miss him. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 20:55:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h941tB21011977 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:55:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0C8E11E6019C; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:53:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF1A41E60077 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:53:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0018D7BF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:49:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13022608 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:49:07 -0400 Received: from web20503.mail.yahoo.com (web20503.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.138]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h941n6o32465 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:49:06 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 18:49:05 PDT Message-ID: <20031004014905.14244.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:49:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Theological Question To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F7E1404.8506BB06@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Do dogs exist who aren't freaked out by vacuum > cleaners? That's one > fear that Spencer shares with Bernard. Jaysie used to bark, but now she treats our vacuum as an animate toy. If a Basset hound could pounce, she would, her white-tipped tail going like mad. She will retreat when she feels it is advancing on her too quickly, though. She is built like an aircraft carrier; she is forced either to make very wide turns, or throw it in reverse. She waddles her way stolidly and benignly through life. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 20:58:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h941w921012004 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:58:09 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 86E031E6019E; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:56:10 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A06D1E6019D for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:56:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EC333@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:52:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13022644 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:52:06 -0400 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.99]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h941q5o32592 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:52:05 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.18f.2042fa07 (4459) for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:51:58 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <18f.2042fa07.2caf81be@aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:51:58 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Theological Question To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/3/2003 8:30:50 PM Central Daylight Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << Well anyway, if she ever gets "aloose" from you, she'll probably not chase cars. Was she suitably embarrassed after she pulled you down? >> She was so scared she ran home. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 21:03:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9423B21012043 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:03:12 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D2E1F1E6019C; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:01:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1DEF1E60160 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:01:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EC33B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:57:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13022729 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:57:08 -0400 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h941v7o00445 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:57:07 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 18:57:05 PDT Message-ID: <20031004015705.2152.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:57:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: The Inside Track To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F7E1BA0.29E492F7@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Will write more later perhaps about some of the > strange goings-on re the > Lt. Gov race. > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Please do! This may be my only shot at a next-to-ring-side seat. Really fascinating. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 21:05:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9425o21012051 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:05:50 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 48A471E6019D; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:03:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B12C1E6019C for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:03:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EC33C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:59:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13022743 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:59:46 -0400 Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com (web20502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h941xko00510 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:59:46 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 18:59:45 PDT Message-ID: <20031004015945.42438.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:59:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: John Hannum To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F7E1F95.9AC82EBD@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > John Williams wrote: > > > > Probably none of the above makes much sense. > > > > No, it does. Very much so. God Rest His > Soul. > > Thank you, JMW. And I am not really surprised that > you understood my > incoherent ramblings. You and I may disagree about > politics, but I > think we are somehow in tune re soul>. > > > (I also remain firmly attached to the idea > that he was Not What He > > Seemed, but I'll sit on that for the nonce.) > > I want to know more about your idea. You can sit on > it for the nonce, > but I am going to prod you for later unseating. Condolences to all Wordslers who knew the gentleman. When does a nonce properly end? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 21:08:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9428C21012057 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:08:12 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A4B341E6019C; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:06:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7373D1E60160 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:06:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EC32F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:02:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13022780 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:02:09 -0400 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h94228o00679 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:02:08 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 19:02:08 PDT Message-ID: <20031004020208.46502.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:02:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Theological Question To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F7E225D.830AA842@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Where is Bethany > when we need her? I > bet she's screwing around with stuff like unpacking > boxes instead of > being here for us. So like our dear Bethany, is it not? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 21:09:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9429r21012079 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:09:54 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D75D41E6019C; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:07:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A68291E60160 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:07:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EC329@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:03:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13022846 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:03:50 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9423oo00821 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:03:50 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9423n8b032190 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:03:49 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.105]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9423mfC030363 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:03:49 -0400 Message-ID: <004701c38a1b$bfef31a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "Wordslurs" Subject: Happy Birthday Lillia! Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:03:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Happy 12th! ;-) My baby cat. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 21:17:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h942H221012125 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:17:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E54191E6019C; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:15:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5A7E1E60160 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:15:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EC34A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:10:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13023051 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:10:58 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h942Awo01361 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:10:58 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 353712B56A; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:10:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06F9B2B137 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:10:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:10:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: Rowdy Movie Set. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "rowdy movie set"! Ha ha ha ha ha Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 21:18:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h942IH21012143 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:18:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2FF241E6007C; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:16:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F25EB1E60071 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:16:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0018D825@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:12:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13023071 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:12:13 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h942CDo01441 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:12:13 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id C8B262B613; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:12:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D68352B563 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:12:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:12:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Affirmations In-Reply-To: <20031004011454.11919.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > > I've never seen anything like that, rags to riches. > Is this the label of the clothing maker? No. I guess it's a kind of California thing. Retch Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 21:20:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h942KL21012164 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:20:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 89F9A1E6007C; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:18:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 574391E60071 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:18:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EC360@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:14:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13023105 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:14:18 -0400 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h942EHo01521 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:14:17 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 19:14:16 PDT Message-ID: <20031004021416.483.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:14:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Theological Question To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F7E261E.6080608@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > It's a blessing, not a baptism. Even > Episcopalians don't > baptize animals. So what exactly DO they do? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 21:21:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h942LR21012171 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:21:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 976EF1E6007C; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:19:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A0C71E60071 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:19:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EC342@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:15:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13023118 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:15:24 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h942FNo01608 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:15:23 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 4DF172B8EF; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:15:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A61C2B8EE for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:15:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:15:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Cremaster of Architecture In-Reply-To: <20031004000822.GA18840@pobox.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU yOn Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Tushar Samant wrote: > Can't describe this guy in any other way: > > http://www.philiprknixon.com/ How the hell did you get this one. Be honest, now: how the fucking hell. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 21:25:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h942Pc21012234 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:25:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A10111E60160; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:23:39 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F9F81E6007C for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:23:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EC38E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:19:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13023516 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:19:35 -0400 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h942JYo02167 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:19:34 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h942JG7Q026530 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:19:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F7E2DFB.4020507@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 21:18:35 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Theological Question References: <20031004021416.483.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > It's a blessing, not a baptism. Even > >>Episcopalians don't >>baptize animals. >> > > So what exactly DO they do? Bless the animals. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 21:26:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h942Qp21012239 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:26:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2A9D41E6007C; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:24:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEB491E60071 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:24:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EC384@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:20:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13023571 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:20:47 -0400 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h942Klo02371 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:20:47 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 19:20:46 PDT Message-ID: <20031004022046.7175.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:20:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Theological Question To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <18f.2042fa07.2caf81be@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > She was so scared she ran home. > > Evelyn Duncan I'm not sure if they make the connection between your being pulled down and any action she has taken. More than anything else, I think it scares them to see their mistresses/masters land in a vulnerable and unseemly position. And I think it scares them to distraction to see their royalty brought low. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 21:29:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h942TP21012255 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:29:26 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8D6051E60160; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:27:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A8BC1E60071 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:27:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EC39B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:23:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13023627 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:23:21 -0400 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h942NLo02600 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:23:21 -0400 Received: from EDuncan368@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.4c.22e5a90e (4539) for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:23:14 -0400 (EDT) From: EDuncan368@aol.com Message-ID: <4c.22e5a90e.2caf8912@aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:23:14 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Theological Question To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/3/2003 9:21:40 PM Central Daylight Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << I'm not sure if they make the connection between your being pulled down and any action she has taken. >> I was so scared I hollered. I guess that's what scared her. Evelyn Duncan eduncan368@aol.com This account protected by an attack cabbit. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 21:30:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h942Ul21012283 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:30:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 01C731E6007C; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:28:48 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C76041E60071 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:28:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EC38F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:24:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13023660 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:24:43 -0400 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h942Oho02656 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:24:43 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h942Ogw4026048 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:24:42 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3F7E2F31.404@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 21:23:45 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Affirmations References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin wrote: > On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > >>I've never seen anything like that, rags to riches. >>Is this the label of the clothing maker? >> > > No. > > I guess it's a kind of California thing. > > Retch > I'm going to start sewing affirmations in my clothes. Except I don't know how to sew. Maybe I'll just use a Sharpie to label my dresses with the word "Aquarius", or maybe I could ask for a blessing of the wardrobe. Yeah, that's it! The only question is a) who is the patron saint of shapeless jumpers b) whether the wash or spin cycle is best? -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 21:31:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h942V021012286 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:31:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B394C1E60160; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:29:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84FC91E6007C for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:29:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0018D885@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:24:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13023115 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:24:50 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h942Eoo01554 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:14:50 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h942EeAR015873 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:14:43 -0400 Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:14:47 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Theological Question In-Reply-To: <3F7E225D.830AA842@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <20031004012435.95277.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> <3F7E225D.830AA842@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, wrote: >I'm not sure (in answer to either of the above). I've seen newspaper >stories about these blessings many times, and I think some have included >pictures, but I don't know for sure whether it's a christening or a >dunking-baptism or what. I think not a total immersion. I'm not sure >whether water is involved at all. Where is Bethany when we need her? I >bet she's screwing around with stuff like unpacking boxes instead of >being here for us. It should not be either - and it should not involve water. Go to the Cathedral Church of St. John the Divine some year for this day. They have blessed elephants, camels, etc.: --- THE FEAST OF SAINT FRANCIS 11 AM, SUNDAY, OCTOBER 5 A joyous and lengthy procession of God's creatures, great and small will flock to The Cathedral of Saint John the Divine for the Annual Feast of St. Francis on Sunday, October 5th at 11 AM. The celebrant at this year's service is Episcopal Bishop of New York, The Right Reverend Mark S. Sisk; the preacher is Cathedral Dean The Very Rev. Dr. James A. Kowalski, who says that "St. Francis Day speaks volumes about the Cathedral and what it means to so many." Tickets are required for the event and will be available free on a first-come, first-serve basis beginning at 9 AM at the Cathedral. A day inspired by St. Francis of Assisi, whose life exemplified harmony between humans and nature, begins with a performance of the Earth Mass/Missa Gaia by artist-in-residence Paul Winter and his Consort as well as the resident Omega and Forces of Nature dance troupes. Following the service is an outdoor fair from 1 until 5 PM where pets will to [sic] be blessed by Cathedral clergy. --- Bethany, pondering the theology of Too Much Stuff From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 21:32:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h942Wc21012291 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:32:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 38D451E6007C; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:30:39 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B3131E60071 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:30:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EC3A8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:26:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13023723 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:26:34 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f53.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.53]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h942QYo02778 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:26:34 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:26:28 -0700 Received: from 216.195.158.242 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 02:26:28 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.195.158.242] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: John Hannum Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 02:26:28 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Oct 2003 02:26:28.0578 (UTC) FILETIME=[EA94D420:01C38A1E] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, October 03, 2003 4:24 AM -0400 Brad Grissom wrote: >John Hannum, 53, died suddenly of heart failure Monday afternoon. I'm sorry to hear this. I remember John from the list and also from GoatRoast - staying up playing poker and gabbing into the wee hours, Emily and I on the road with John and Brad stopping inTupelo, Memphis, Oxford, hearing stories of Africa and France ... _________________________________________________________________ High-speed Internet access as low as $29.95/month (depending on the local service providers in your area). Click here. https://broadband.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 21:33:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h942X521012301 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:33:05 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A29161E6007C; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:31:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 745F61E60071 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:31:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EC399@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:27:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13023736 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:27:02 -0400 Received: from web20513.mail.yahoo.com (web20513.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h942R1o02834 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:27:01 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20513.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 19:27:00 PDT Message-ID: <20031004022700.67313.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:27:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Theological Question To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F7E2DFB.4020507@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > So what exactly DO they do? > > > Bless the animals. Thank you, on my dog's behalf, OGSS. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 21:34:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h942Ye21012336 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:34:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 617E71E60071; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:32:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30F711E60062 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:32:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EC3B1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:28:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13023806 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:28:36 -0400 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.99]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h942Sao02932 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:28:36 -0400 Received: from EDuncan368@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.4d.3585cb16 (4539) for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:28:29 -0400 (EDT) From: EDuncan368@aol.com Message-ID: <4d.3585cb16.2caf8a4d@aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:28:29 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Daisy To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/2/2003 8:51:42 PM Central Daylight Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << I don't think you'll need to worry about any crooks getting in, any more. Daisy will be at her post. Let me know if you're ready for another book. >> I didn't see this post at my brandykitt account. Yes, I sleep better at night knowing that she will bark if anyone tries to come through the door. I have to get back to studying; I've had trouble since the theft. I can't seem to concentrate on anything important. And now Mom's sick; we had to take her to the emergency room because she hasn't been eating and has been feeling weak. They couldn't or wouldn't do anything, maybe because of her general health or age. Evelyn Duncan eduncan368@aol.com This account protected by an attack cabbit. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 21:35:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h942Z621012340 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:35:06 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 70AE41E60071; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:33:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D93E1E60062 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:33:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EC394@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:29:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13023823 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:29:02 -0400 Received: from web20501.mail.yahoo.com (web20501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.136]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h942T2o02972 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:29:02 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 19:29:01 PDT Message-ID: <20031004022901.61230.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:29:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Theological Question To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <4c.22e5a90e.2caf8912@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Evelyn Duncan > eduncan368@aol.com > This account protected by an attack cabbit. Yes, just let Daisy know that Ryo-Ohki would NOT pull you down. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 21:37:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h942bG21012352 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:37:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C03561E60071; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:35:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8845F1E60062 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:35:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0018D89F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:31:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13023930 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:31:11 -0400 Received: from imo-m01.mx.aol.com (imo-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.4]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h942VBo03153 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:31:11 -0400 Received: from EDuncan368@aol.com by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1d8.11e70e37 (4539) for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:31:03 -0400 (EDT) From: EDuncan368@aol.com Message-ID: <1d8.11e70e37.2caf8ae7@aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:31:03 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Theological Question To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/3/2003 9:29:21 PM Central Daylight Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << Yes, just let Daisy know that Ryo-Ohki would NOT pull you down. >> No, Ryo-Ohki would just take a bite out of the robber's gun (Episode 4: Mihoshi Falls to the Land of Stars). Evelyn Duncan eduncan368@aol.com This account protected by an attack cabbit. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 21:39:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h942dp21012357 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:39:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ED32A1E6007C; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:37:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B87721E60071 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:37:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EC3A7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:33:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13023649 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:33:47 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h942Nlo02624 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:23:47 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h942NeAR017846 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:23:40 -0400 Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:23:47 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: just when you thought it was safe Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Just when you thought it was all over with the Old City and you moved ... what are they doing there this weekend? Filming a Peter Fonda movie! I tried to get them to hire me as an extra linguist, but they looked blank and did not answer. But the owner of the small grocery store that FINALLY (after I waited 12 years) opened a couple of weeks ago was paid $1000 for the use of his premises and also hired to do a bit part. Damn! Maybe I'll go back tomorrow - maybe they will look up the word linguist tonight ... Bethany, new kid at HH (but a new kid who now has her own 24/7 secure, reserved, enclosed parking space! - to celebrate not having to park in a public parking lot anymore, I gave the van the $6 Deluxe car wash tonight) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 21:40:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h942e021012361 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:40:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3326B1E6007C; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:38:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 050CB1E60071 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:38:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EC3B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:33:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13024095 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:33:56 -0400 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h942Xuo03597 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:33:56 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h942Xs1R019463 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:33:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F7E3159.1040104@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 21:32:57 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Theological Question References: <20031004022700.67313.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: >>>So what exactly DO they do? >>> >> >> Bless the animals. >> > > Thank you, on my dog's behalf, OGSS. The blessing isn't about your dog; it's about the relationship between the animal and human. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 21:42:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h942gl21012376 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:42:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 645661E60071; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:40:48 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 289271E60062 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:40:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EC3D0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:36:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13024188 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:36:43 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h942aho03777 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:36:43 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h942agHL022626 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:36:43 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h942aejD022609; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:36:41 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031003193720.00a29210@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 19:37:58 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: John Hannum In-Reply-To: <2cf5ab2d1398.2d13982cf5ab@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:54 PM 10/3/2003 -0700, John Williams wrote: > No, it does. Very much so. God Rest His Soul. > (I also remain firmly attached to the idea that he was Not What He >Seemed, but I'll sit on that for the nonce.) > >JMW I agree. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 21:42:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h942gx21012380 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:42:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1651F1E60071; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:41:00 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCBAA1E60062 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:40:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EC3B2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:36:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13023733 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:36:55 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h942Qto02795 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:26:55 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h942QmAR018336 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:26:48 -0400 Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:26:55 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Affirmations In-Reply-To: <3F7E2F31.404@swbell.net> Message-ID: References: <3F7E2F31.404@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I have made a decision. When we have our house blessing here, we will bless all wordslers and all their shapeless items of apparel. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 21:44:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h942iD21012386 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:44:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0D2141E60062; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:42:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE9DE1E60071 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:42:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EC3D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:38:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13023797 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:38:09 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h942S9o02916 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:28:09 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h942S2AR018538 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:28:02 -0400 Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:28:09 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: John Hannum In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I remember John from the list and also from GoatRoast - staying up >playing poker and gabbing into the wee hours, Emily and I on the >road with John and Brad stopping inTupelo, Memphis, Oxford, >hearing stories of Africa and France ... I now think I remember him from another life. He's in a good place. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 21:46:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h942kE21012434 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:46:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1ED7C1E60071; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:44:15 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0F331E60062 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:44:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EC3CB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:40:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13024305 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:40:10 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h942eAo04015 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:40:10 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h942e9HL024831 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:40:09 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h942e7jD024797; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:40:08 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031003194013.00a7fe70@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 19:41:25 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Lillia! In-Reply-To: <004701c38a1b$bfef31a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:03 PM 10/3/2003 -0400, Alan Wild wrote: >Happy 12th! ;-) My baby cat. Oh.My.God. I can't believe it. Happy Birthday for sure, Lillia. Almost a teenage. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 21:51:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h942pI21012475 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:51:18 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9FE7D1E60160; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:49:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67DA91E6007C for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:49:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0018D8B8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:45:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13024402 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:45:14 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h942jDo04363 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:45:13 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id A41362B8D5; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:45:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A99C2B563 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:45:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:45:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Affirmations In-Reply-To: <3F7E2F31.404@swbell.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > I'm going to start sewing affirmations in my clothes. Except > I don't know how to sew. Maybe I'll just use a Sharpie to > label my dresses with the word "Aquarius", or maybe I could > ask for a blessing of the wardrobe. Yeah, that's it! The > only question is a) who is the patron saint of shapeless > jumpers b) whether the wash or spin cycle is best? Well, my question is, which affirmations would you use? Here are some possibilities for you: I'M RITA AND I'M HOT!! BEST DAMN POET YOU'LL EVER SEE. APHRODITE WHERE'S MY NIGHTIE! NO USE KNOCKIN IF THIS BOAT IS ROCKIN. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 21:54:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h942ss21012487 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:54:54 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 12AF31E60160; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:52:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D48281E6007C for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:52:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EC3F6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:48:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13024549 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:48:50 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h942moo04597 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:48:50 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h942mnHL030882 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:48:49 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h942mljD030843; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:48:47 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031003194949.00a2b5b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 19:50:05 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Affirmations In-Reply-To: References: <3F7E2F31.404@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:45 PM 10/3/2003 -0700, Ann Borkin wrote: >On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > > > I'm going to start sewing affirmations in my clothes. Except > > I don't know how to sew. Maybe I'll just use a Sharpie to > > label my dresses with the word "Aquarius", or maybe I could > > ask for a blessing of the wardrobe. Yeah, that's it! The > > only question is a) who is the patron saint of shapeless > > jumpers b) whether the wash or spin cycle is best? > >Well, my question is, which affirmations would you use? > >Here are some possibilities for you: > >I'M RITA AND I'M HOT!! > >BEST DAMN POET YOU'LL EVER SEE. > >APHRODITE WHERE'S MY NIGHTIE! > >NO USE KNOCKIN IF THIS BOAT IS ROCKIN. > >Ann You've met Rita? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 21:55:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h942t021012490 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:55:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3512F1E60160; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:53:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0208A1E6007C for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:53:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EC3D8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:48:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13024553 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:48:56 -0400 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h942muo04603 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:48:56 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h942mUIE026938 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:48:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F7E34C6.5090307@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 21:47:34 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Affirmations References: <3F7E2F31.404@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > I have made a decision. When we have our house blessing here, we will > bless all wordslers and all their shapeless items of apparel. Thanks, but I can have my own priesty-wiesty do that for me, ok? -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 22:02:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9432c21012577 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:02:39 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6A7131E6007C; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:00:39 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 349961E60062 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:00:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EC450@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:56:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13024462 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:56:34 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h942kYo04480 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:46:34 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h942kPAR021696 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:46:27 -0400 Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:46:32 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Theological Question In-Reply-To: <3F7E3159.1040104@swbell.net> Message-ID: References: <20031004022700.67313.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> <3F7E3159.1040104@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > The blessing isn't about your dog; it's about the >relationship between the animal and human. Since GC, that is open to question. ECUSA appears to take the position that it can bless entities - humans, including gays, animals, etc. - but that it cannot bless some kinds of relationships - hence, no gay marriages. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 22:17:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h943H221012812 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:17:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6F1761E6007C; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:15:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40E181E60062 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:15:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018DB0B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 23:10:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13029340 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 23:10:57 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h943Avo08131 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 23:10:57 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A5coq-0004Og-SX for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 23:10:57 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031003200445.03b12368@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 20:12:43 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Rowdy Movie Set. In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin writes, >"rowdy movie set"! Ha ha ha ha ha "Eating is not cheating." It won't be boring, at least. Bless us, we live in interesting times. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 22:27:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h943R621012912 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:27:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5A4151E60030; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:25:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D6A41E6002E for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:25:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EC6C1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 23:21:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13030306 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 23:21:02 -0400 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h943L2o09192 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 23:21:02 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 20:21:01 PDT Message-ID: <20031004032101.19344.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:21:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: just when you thought it was safe To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Damn! Maybe I'll > go back tomorrow - maybe they will look up the word > linguist tonight ... Break a leg. > > Bethany, new kid at HH (but a new kid who now has > her own 24/7 secure, > reserved, enclosed parking space! - to celebrate not > having to park in a > public parking lot anymore, I gave the van the $6 > Deluxe car wash > tonight) YaY. Live it up. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 22:29:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h943Te21012926 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:29:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B0A401E6007C; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:27:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829921E6002E for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:27:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EC6BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 23:23:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13030402 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 23:23:36 -0400 Received: from web20503.mail.yahoo.com (web20503.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.138]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h943NZo09389 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 23:23:35 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 20:23:34 PDT Message-ID: <20031004032335.33560.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:23:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Daisy To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <4d.3585cb16.2caf8a4d@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Yes, I sleep better at night knowing that she will > bark > if anyone tries to come through the door. > > I have to get back to studying; I've had trouble > since the > theft. I can't seem to concentrate on anything > important. > And now Mom's sick; we had to take her to the > emergency > room because she hasn't been eating and has been > feeling > weak. They couldn't or wouldn't do anything, maybe > because of her general health or age. I'm sorry to hear your mom is unwell. Beware of dehydration. > > Evelyn Duncan > This account protected by an attack cabbit. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 22:30:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h943Uq21012955 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:30:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4FE2F1E60030; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:28:53 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2204A1E6002E for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:28:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EC6AD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 23:24:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13030413 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 23:24:48 -0400 Received: from web20501.mail.yahoo.com (web20501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.136]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h943Omo09440 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 23:24:48 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 20:24:47 PDT Message-ID: <20031004032447.72156.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:24:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Affirmations To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > I have made a decision. When we have our house > blessing here, we will > bless all wordslers and all their shapeless items of > apparel. > > Bethany Please include me as a shapeless Wordsler. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 22:34:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h943Yn21013010 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:34:49 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 904EC1E60030; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:32:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 606D91E6002E for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:32:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EC6B1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 23:28:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13030472 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 23:28:45 -0400 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h943Sio09674 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 23:28:44 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 20:28:44 PDT Message-ID: <20031004032844.20303.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:28:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Affirmations To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Well, my question is, which affirmations would you > use? > > Here are some possibilities for you: > > I'M RITA AND I'M HOT!! > > BEST DAMN POET YOU'LL EVER SEE. > > APHRODITE WHERE'S MY NIGHTIE! > > NO USE KNOCKIN IF THIS BOAT IS ROCKIN. 'YOU'RE PUTTING ME ON!" > > Ann __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 22:49:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h943nY21013102 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:49:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6395C1E600FD; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:47:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 332BB1E60030 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:47:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018DBC9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 23:43:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13030975 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 23:43:25 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h943hOo10746 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 23:43:25 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h943hJKI006845 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:43:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <009201c38a2a$aca415c0$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3F7E2F31.404@swbell.net> Subject: Re: Re: Affirmations Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:50:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bethany K. Dumas" To: Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 9:26 PM Subject: Re: Affirmations > I have made a decision. When we have our house blessing here, we will > bless all wordslers and all their shapeless items of apparel. > > Bethany The lobby of the building we're in in Honolulu was completely redone this year, and then they had a blessing done, followed by a champagne reception. Wish I could have been there. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 3 23:35:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h944Zk21013458 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 23:35:46 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6090A1E60169; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 23:29:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32F481E60166 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 23:29:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0018DD0D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 0:25:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13033591 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 00:24:37 -0400 Received: from web20511.mail.yahoo.com (web20511.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.150]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9449Eo13827 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 00:09:14 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20511.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 21:09:13 PDT Message-ID: <20031004040913.76112.qmail@web20511.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:09:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Affirmations To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <009201c38a2a$aca415c0$facadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bethany K. Dumas" > To: > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 9:26 PM > Subject: Re: Affirmations > > > The lobby of the building we're in in Honolulu was > completely redone this year, and then they had > a blessing done, followed by a champagne reception. > Wish I could have been there. You will make up for it somehow, and soon, too. 'Night. > > - D. M. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 01:52:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h946qG21015009 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 01:52:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DA2B51E60064; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 01:50:15 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA2CC1E60020 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 01:50:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0018DF2C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 2:46:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13039743 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 02:46:11 -0400 Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (imo-r05.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h946kBo26766 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 02:46:11 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.110.28b56d82 (3866) for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 02:46:00 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <110.28b56d82.2cafc6a7@aol.com> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 02:45:59 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Daisy To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/3/2003 10:23:55 PM Central Daylight Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << I'm sorry to hear your mom is unwell. Beware of dehydration. >> Thanks! I guess she's going to have to eat whether she's hungry or not. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 01:57:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h946v021015056 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 01:57:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4F7C71E60169; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 01:54:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EF931E60064 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 01:54:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009ECB2B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 2:50:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13039775 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 02:50:54 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h946oso27045 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 02:50:54 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h946oqRP030089 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 08:50:52 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h946oqtu030087 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 08:50:52 +0200 Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 08:50:51 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Theological Question Message-ID: <20031004065051.GA30041@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20031004012435.95277.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> <3F7E225D.830AA842@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = A day inspired by St. Francis of Assisi, whose life exemplified harmony = between humans and nature, begins with a performance of the Earth = Mass/Missa Gaia by artist-in-residence Paul Winter and his Consort as well = as the resident Omega and Forces of Nature dance troupes. = I love this wording of the Paul Winter Consort. He's responsible for starting to get me off my steady rock/pop diet at the early age of 16 when I heard WXRT play Icarus. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 01:59:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h946xZ21015064 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 01:59:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1E4791E601A2; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 01:57:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9D0B1E6019E for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 01:57:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009ECB2C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 2:53:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13039789 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 02:53:29 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h946rSo27218 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 02:53:28 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h946rRRP030099 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 08:53:27 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h946rRgf030097 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 08:53:27 +0200 Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 08:53:27 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: just when you thought it was safe Message-ID: <20031004065327.GB30041@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = Bethany, new kid at HH (but a new kid who now has her own 24/7 secure, = reserved, enclosed parking space! Someday I will probably covet this. But not now. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 02:10:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h947AA21015217 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 02:10:10 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9AF211E6019F; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 02:08:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EDB81E60064 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 02:08:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009ECB32@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 3:04:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13040020 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 03:04:04 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9473to28027 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 03:04:04 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h9473hRP030118; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 09:03:43 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h9473cWb030116; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 09:03:38 +0200 Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 09:03:37 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Cc: bogris01@NETZERO.NET Subject: Re: John Hannum's death Message-ID: <20031004070337.GC30041@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <000501c38987$cbc0b420$2a9a1840@computer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000501c38987$cbc0b420$2a9a1840@computer> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = John Hannum, 53, died suddenly of heart failure Monday afternoon. John lived in The Netherlands for a while (I don't remember whether it was Amsterdam or not). In the course of our emails, I ended up sending him a copy of the Volkskrant, and he sent me a cassette he made from the radio. I'll miss him. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 05:47:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94AlV21016995 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 05:47:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C3F6E1E601A7; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 05:45:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96A4A1E601A6 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 05:45:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009ECC0C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 6:41:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13042682 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:41:24 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94AfNo09508 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:41:23 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.162.88]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031004104120.JWBV1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:41:20 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7EA3CF.1B330BE2@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 05:41:19 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Theological Question References: <20031004014905.14244.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > She is built like an aircraft carrier; she is forced > either to make very wide turns, or throw it in > reverse. She waddles her way stolidly and benignly > through life. I bet she can't swim. Basset hounds are exceptions to the "dogs can swim naturally" rule. Or at least Sam was. Their paddles aren't long enough in relation to their vessels. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 05:56:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94Aur21017067 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 05:56:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3AA1C1E60079; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 05:54:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06AB71E60075 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 05:54:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0018E040@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 6:50:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13042476 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:50:45 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94Aojo10228 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:50:45 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.162.88]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031004105041.JXHN1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:50:41 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7EA600.D17074C@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 05:50:40 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Inside Track References: <20031004015705.2152.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > > Will write more later perhaps about some of the > > strange goings-on re the > > Lt. Gov race. > > Please do! This may be my only shot at a > next-to-ring-side seat. Really fascinating. Well, this isn't from my new status, except that the lawyer yesterday didn't give me a very good answer to my question of why our candidate announced that both candidates should sign affidavits saying they'd never had abortions. Probably there's more stuff in today's newspapers about it. Maybe I'll just post a url later. The gist is that the incumbent was getting all prissy about being against abortion and saying that her opponent, my candidate, was pro-choice. Let me give them names. That will make it easier. I don't mean I'm them these names. They are their names. Amy is the incumbent. Barbara is the opponent. After Amy said something about Barbara's being pro choice, Barbara came back with this dumb statement about their signing affidavits saying they'd never had abortions. When I first saw it mentioned in the newspaper, I thought she must be on the verge of revealing that Amy had had an abortion, which would be of no interest imho *except* for the hypocrisy involved. I thought, though, that it would have made more political sense for Barbara to let somebody else reveal this secret info instead of doing it herself -- since it's pretty mud-slingy. Now, however, it appears that Barbara brought that up just for the heck of it -- that she doesn't have any secret info about Amy and abortion. That turns the mud into something quite strange, imho, and I think it is costing her -- costing Barbara. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 05:58:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94AwD21017075 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 05:58:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9A3DF1E60079; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 05:56:10 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DA201E60075 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 05:56:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009ECC2D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 6:52:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13042497 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:52:05 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94Aq5o10333 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:52:05 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.162.88]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031004105202.JXKR1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:52:02 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7EA651.F85A92DF@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 05:52:01 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Lillia! References: <004701c38a1b$bfef31a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alan Wild wrote: > > Happy 12th! ;-) My baby cat. That's an exciting age. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 05:59:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94Axm21017100 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 05:59:48 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 84CE21E60079; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 05:57:45 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5800F1E60075 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 05:57:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0018E042@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 6:53:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13042519 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:53:40 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94Areo10408 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:53:40 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.162.88]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031004105337.JXQH1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:53:37 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7EA6B0.E716528C@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 05:53:36 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Theological Question References: <20031004012435.95277.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> <3F7E225D.830AA842@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Cathedral Church of St. John the Divine some year for this day. They have > blessed elephants, camels, etc.: All animals are invited here also. But I don't know of any elephants or camels in town. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 06:03:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94B3p21017168 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:03:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 43B0D1E601A7; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:01:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 165761E601A6 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:01:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018E058@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 6:57:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13042634 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:57:44 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94Avho10824 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:57:44 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.162.88]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031004105740.JYEH1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:57:40 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7EA7A3.B5A7416F@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 05:57:39 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Affirmations References: <3F7E2F31.404@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > a) who is the patron saint of shapeless > jumpers Do they contain any embroidery? St. Clare is the PS of embroiderers, which I guess isn't quite the same as being the PS of embroidery and is certainly not the same as being the PS of jumpers without embroidery. Clare is also the PS of eye disorders and TV. And she was enamored of St. Francis of Assisi. And she wore clothes made of human hair. For more info, see: http://www.scborromeo.org/saints/clare.htm -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 06:06:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94B6D21017182 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:06:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 24FD21E601A6; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:04:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E87091E60079 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:04:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009ECC38@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 7:00:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13042645 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:00:06 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94B05o10916 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:00:06 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.162.88]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031004110002.JYKX1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:00:02 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7EA831.ED2761B1@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 06:00:01 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: just when you thought it was safe References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > tried to get them to hire me as an extra linguist, but they looked blank Are there linguist scenes? Or do you mean that your role would be to advise them on linguistic matters? I've never thought of extras as being behind the scenes. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 06:35:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94BZT21017451 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:35:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9E6AF1E601AD; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:33:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68F071E601A7 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:33:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009ECC2E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 7:00:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13042685 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:00:48 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94B0lo10951 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:00:48 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.162.88]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031004110044.JYNF1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:00:44 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7EA85B.DA60ED03@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 06:00:43 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Affirmations References: <3F7E2F31.404@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > I have made a decision. When we have our house blessing here, we will > bless all wordslers and all their shapeless items of apparel. Excellent! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 06:35:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94BZT21017453 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:35:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A3D001E601A7; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:33:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 714711E601AC for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:33:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009ECC3E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 7:16:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13042866 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:16:20 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94BGJo11646 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:16:19 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.162.88]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031004111616.LMXX1821.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:16:16 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7EABFF.528CEBF4@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 06:16:15 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Nothing of Interest Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU There's nothing about the abortion craziness in today's Clarion-Ledger. I haven't walked down my driveway yet to get my SDN. This was in yesterday's CL, but it doesn't say much more than I said in my summary while ago: http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0310/03/m08.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 06:35:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94BZT21017452 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:35:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A062E1E601B0; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:33:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BF311E601AB for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:33:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009ECC4E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 7:02:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13042705 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:02:38 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94B2co11083 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:02:38 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.162.88]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031004110235.JYRU1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:02:35 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7EA8CA.578EE210@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 06:02:34 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Theological Question References: <20031004022700.67313.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> <3F7E3159.1040104@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Since GC, that is open to question. ECUSA appears to take the position What's GC? Speaking of church matters, it's hard to believe that it's been 25 years since we went through all those popes in such a short time. Remember when the smoke signal was being sent up over and over again? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 06:37:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94BbN21017495 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:37:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6D5781E601AC; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:35:20 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4081E1E601A7 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:35:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018E07B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 7:31:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13042918 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:31:15 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94BLEo11871 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:21:14 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h94BL5AR000473 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:21:07 -0400 Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:21:12 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: just when you thought it was safe In-Reply-To: <3F7EA831.ED2761B1@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3F7EA831.ED2761B1@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 4 Oct 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Are there linguist scenes? Or do you mean that your role would be to >advise them on linguistic matters? I've never thought of extras as >being behind the scenes. All extras have bit parts, so far as I know. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 06:53:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94BrQ21017597 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:53:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E9F581E601AC; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:51:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD80B1E60172 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:51:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009ECC79@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 7:47:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13043113 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:47:19 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94BbJo12726 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:37:19 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h94BbBAR002650 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:37:11 -0400 Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:37:18 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Theological Question In-Reply-To: <3F7EA8CA.578EE210@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <20031004022700.67313.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> <3F7E3159.1040104@swbell.net> <3F7EA8CA.578EE210@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 4 Oct 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> Since GC, that is open to question. ECUSA appears to take the position > >What's GC? General Convention. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 06:55:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94Bth21017629 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:55:43 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1F79E1E601AC; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:53:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E33401E60172 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:53:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009ECC5E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 7:49:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13043124 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:49:36 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94Bdao12803 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:39:36 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h94BdSAR002951 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:39:28 -0400 Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:39:35 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Affirmations In-Reply-To: <3F7E34C6.5090307@swbell.net> Message-ID: References: <3F7E2F31.404@swbell.net> <3F7E34C6.5090307@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: >> I have made a decision. When we have our house blessing here, we will >> bless all wordslers and all their shapeless items of apparel. > > > Thanks, but I can have my own priesty-wiesty do that for me, ok? Great. Please let us know when s/he has done so. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 07:02:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94C2221017697 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:02:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ABA951E601AB; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:59:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F1B01E60172 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:59:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009ECC60@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 7:55:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13043161 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:55:54 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94Bjro13060 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:45:53 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h94BjkAR003870 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:45:46 -0400 Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:45:53 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: just when you thought it was safe In-Reply-To: <20031004065327.GB30041@yoccoz.multinix.com> Message-ID: References: <20031004065327.GB30041@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 4 Oct 2003, steph wrote: >= Bethany, new kid at HH (but a new kid who now has her own 24/7 secure, >= reserved, enclosed parking space! > >Someday I will probably covet this. But not now. Do you have to swim to your vehicle on a public parking lot as I had to in the Old City? And are you unable to go out on Thursday, Friday, and Saturday evenings because there will be no place to park when you come home? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 07:05:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94C5F21017713 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:05:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EAF491E601AB; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:03:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA9B91E60172 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:03:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009ECC8B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 7:59:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13043360 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:59:08 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94Bx7o13816 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:59:07 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.162.88]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031004115906.FHJT1874.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:59:06 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7EB607.5B2AD1D2@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 06:59:03 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Interesting Stuff Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Those who primarily watch Fox News are significantly more likely to have misperceptions, while those who primarily listen to NPR or watch PBS are significantly less likely." http://truthout.org/docs_03/100403F.shtml -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 07:31:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94CVs21017995 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:31:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D56B41E601B1; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:29:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A44091E601B0 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:29:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009ECCC7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 8:25:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13044105 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 08:25:47 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f115.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.115]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94CPko15640 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 08:25:46 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 05:25:41 -0700 Received: from 149.160.22.98 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 12:25:40 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.22.98] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: John Hannum's death Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 08:25:40 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Oct 2003 12:25:41.0161 (UTC) FILETIME=[9FFDA190:01C38A72] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This sucks. >From: Brad Grissom >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: John Hannum's death >Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 04:24:40 -0400 > >John Hannum, 53, died suddenly of heart failure Monday afternoon. >Postmortem revealed a well-advanced lung cancer that would have >meant a lingering, miserable end for him. There is a perfunctory >obituary in today's Lexington Herald-Leader (kentucky.com). I >hope to post a reminiscence to the list in a little while. He is >being cremated and his remains and effects sent to his father in >Pensacola. > >I haven't been reading Words-L at all lately, but I still >consider myself a member of the community, as did poor John. >Send me private mail if you want to; I try to look every other >day or so. > >brad (Brad Grissom) _________________________________________________________________ Instant message in style with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 08:37:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94Db921018611 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 08:37:09 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 91B801E601B5; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 08:35:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C64B1E601B3 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 08:35:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009ECD7C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 9:31:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13045485 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 09:31:00 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94DL0o19820 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 09:21:00 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h94DKpAR018080 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 09:20:53 -0400 Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 09:20:58 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Affirmations In-Reply-To: <20031004032447.72156.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031004032447.72156.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >Please include me as a shapeless Wordsler. Done. B. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 08:53:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94Drp21019867 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 08:53:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0B1D21E601B6; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 08:51:48 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD82C1E601A9 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 08:51:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009ECDA7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 9:47:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13046074 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 09:47:43 -0400 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94Dlgo21387 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 09:47:42 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h94Dlbw4016840 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 08:47:42 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3F7ECF41.1030302@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 08:46:41 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Theological Question References: <20031004022700.67313.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> <3F7E3159.1040104@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > > >> The blessing isn't about your dog; it's about the >>relationship between the animal and human. >> > > Since GC, that is open to question. ECUSA appears to take the position > that it can bless entities - humans, including gays, animals, etc. - but > that it cannot bless some kinds of relationships - hence, no gay > marriages. I'm talking about the liturgy for the Blessing of the Animals, not blessings in general. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 09:02:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94E2n21020880 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 09:02:49 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ECB781E601B8; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 09:00:45 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF01A1E601A9 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 09:00:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009ECDCE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 9:56:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13046273 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 09:56:35 -0400 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94DuYo21762 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 09:56:34 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h94DuW1R008580 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:56:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F7ED158.9090203@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 08:55:36 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Affirmations References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin wrote: > On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > > >> I'm going to start sewing affirmations in my clothes. Except >>I don't know how to sew. Maybe I'll just use a Sharpie to >>label my dresses with the word "Aquarius", or maybe I could >>ask for a blessing of the wardrobe. Yeah, that's it! The >>only question is a) who is the patron saint of shapeless >>jumpers b) whether the wash or spin cycle is best? >> > > Well, my question is, which affirmations would you use? > > Here are some possibilities for you: > > I'M RITA AND I'M HOT!! > > BEST DAMN POET YOU'LL EVER SEE. > > APHRODITE WHERE'S MY NIGHTIE! > > NO USE KNOCKIN IF THIS BOAT IS ROCKIN. I LOVE MY JOB NO REALLY, I LOVE MY JOB MY PEEPS IS THURRR CELEBRATE THE INNER MLA FORMAT SENTENCE DIAGRAMS PUT ME IN MY HAPPY PLACE USHER FOR THE KINGDOM OF GOD (see Dewey) I LOVE THE INESSENTIAL CHILD, TOO VIRGIL -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 09:05:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94E5k21021259 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 09:05:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 249A81E601B8; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 09:03:43 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC1531E601A9 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 09:03:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0018E1A5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 9:59:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13046395 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 09:59:38 -0400 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94Dxbo21944 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 09:59:37 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h94Dxa1R009997 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:59:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F7ED210.5070005@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 08:58:40 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Affirmations References: <3F7E2F31.404@swbell.net> <3F7EA7A3.B5A7416F@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Rita Chapman wrote: > > >> a) who is the patron saint of shapeless >>jumpers >> > > Do they contain any embroidery? St. Clare is the PS of embroiderers, > which I guess isn't quite the same as being the PS of embroidery and is > certainly not the same as being the PS of jumpers without embroidery. > Clare is also the PS of eye disorders and TV. And she was enamored of > St. Francis of Assisi. And she wore clothes made of human hair. Nope, very plain LL Bean and LL Beanish. But I'm into my riding clothes and off to the barn now. Whee. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 09:48:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94EmV21022054 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 09:48:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F1A451E601C0; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 09:46:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C37D91E601BF for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 09:46:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009ECE4B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 10:42:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13047621 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 10:42:23 -0400 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h94EgMo24789 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 10:42:22 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 07:42:21 PDT Message-ID: <20031004144221.8337.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:42:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Theological Question To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F7EA3CF.1B330BE2@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I bet she can't swim. Basset hounds are exceptions > to the "dogs can > swim naturally" rule. Or at least Sam was. Their > paddles aren't long > enough in relation to their vessels. Dead on. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 09:51:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94Ep121022080 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 09:51:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4513F1E601BF; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 09:48:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 185471E601BC for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 09:48:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009ECE56@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 10:44:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13047712 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 10:44:52 -0400 Received: from web20501.mail.yahoo.com (web20501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.136]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h94Eioo24976 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 10:44:51 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 07:44:50 PDT Message-ID: <20031004144450.87679.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:44:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: The Inside Track To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F7EA600.D17074C@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Well, this isn't from my new status, > except that the lawyer > yesterday didn't give me a very good answer to my > question of why our > candidate announced that both candidates should sign > affidavits saying > they'd never had abortions. Probably there's more > stuff in today's > newspapers about it. Maybe I'll just post a url > later. The gist is > that the incumbent was getting all prissy about > being against abortion > and saying that her opponent, my candidate, was > pro-choice. Let me give > them names. That will make it easier. I don't mean > I'm them > these names. They are their names. Amy is the > incumbent. Barbara is > the opponent. After Amy said something about > Barbara's being pro > choice, Barbara came back with this dumb statement > about their signing > affidavits saying they'd never had abortions. When > I first saw it > mentioned in the newspaper, I thought she must be on > the verge of > revealing that Amy had had an abortion, which would > be of no interest > imho *except* for the hypocrisy involved. I > thought, though, that it > would have made more political sense for Barbara to > let somebody else > reveal this secret info instead of doing it herself > -- since it's pretty > mud-slingy. Now, however, it appears that Barbara > brought that up just > for the heck of it -- that she doesn't have any > secret info about Amy > and abortion. That turns the mud into something > quite strange, imho, > and I think it is costing her -- costing Barbara. Curious episode, indeed. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 09:53:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94Er921022102 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 09:53:09 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 597451E601BE; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 09:51:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C5C11E601BC for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 09:51:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009ECE6C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 10:47:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13047793 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 10:47:00 -0400 Received: from web20503.mail.yahoo.com (web20503.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.138]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h94El0o25175 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 10:47:00 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 07:46:59 PDT Message-ID: <20031004144659.56843.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:46:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Affirmations To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F7EA7A3.B5A7416F@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Clare is also the PS of eye disorders and TV. And > she was enamored of > St. Francis of Assisi. And she wore clothes made of > human hair. So St. Clare is a sort of catch-all PS. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 10:00:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94F0W21022152 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 10:00:33 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E84DE1E601C0; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 09:58:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3D351E601BE for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 09:58:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018E27B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 10:54:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13047976 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 10:54:23 -0400 Received: from web20511.mail.yahoo.com (web20511.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.150]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h94EsNo25684 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 10:54:23 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20511.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 07:54:22 PDT Message-ID: <20031004145422.93687.qmail@web20511.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:54:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Interesting Stuff To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F7EB607.5B2AD1D2@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > "Those who primarily watch Fox News are > significantly more likely to > have misperceptions, while those who primarily > listen to NPR or watch > PBS are significantly less likely." > > http://truthout.org/docs_03/100403F.shtml > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) It has been one of my enduring criticisms of FOX that they play fast and loose with the truth. All networks do it to some extent, but FOX is not very subtle about it. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 10:25:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94FPF21022489 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 10:25:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0E2441E601C2; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 10:22:35 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCF0A1E6002B for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 10:22:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009ECEB7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:18:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13048600 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:18:30 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94FITo27377 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:18:29 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A5oAw-0001fc-KB for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 11:18:30 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031004081341.024b9f50@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 08:20:34 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Interesting Stuff In-Reply-To: <20031004145422.93687.qmail@web20511.mail.yahoo.com> References: <3F7EB607.5B2AD1D2@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber writes, >It has been one of my enduring criticisms of FOX that they play fast and >loose with the truth. It sounds as if you think it's a source of information rather than an entertainment program. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 10:46:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94Fkl21022888 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 10:46:48 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 81C1A1E601C3; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 10:44:43 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 544BA1E601C2 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 10:44:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009ECEF2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:40:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13049042 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:40:38 -0400 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h94Feco28754 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:40:38 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 08:40:37 PDT Message-ID: <20031004154037.24877.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 08:40:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Interesting Stuff To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031004081341.024b9f50@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Peter Kaminski wrote: > Lynne Weber writes, > > >It has been one of my enduring criticisms of FOX > that they play fast and > >loose with the truth. > > It sounds as if you think it's a source of > information rather than an > entertainment program. > > Pete Au contraire, Pete. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 11:00:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94G0421023105 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:00:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CD3751E601C4; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 10:57:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99B631E601C3 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 10:57:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009ECF38@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:53:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13049564 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:53:54 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94Frso29892 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:53:54 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h94FrlKI027377 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 10:53:53 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001301c38a90$c3140a20$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Vegas Entertainment Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:01:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h94G0421023105 Ohmygod! During Siegfried and Roy's act last night, a white tiger performing for the first time lunged at Roy and bit him in the neck and made a bloody scene. Roy subsequently underwent surgery. Can you imagine being in that audience? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 11:03:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94G3x21023163 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:03:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 341C61E601C3; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:01:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 043E51E601C2 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:01:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009ECF31@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:57:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13049659 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:57:50 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94Fvno30116 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:57:49 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h94Fvm2f030083 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 08:57:48 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h94FvlJC030073; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 08:57:47 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031004085850.00a88bb0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 08:59:06 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Vegas Entertainment In-Reply-To: <001301c38a90$c3140a20$facadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:01 AM 10/4/2003 -0500, Doris Markland wrote: >Ohmygod! During Siegfried and Roy's act last night, a white tiger >performing for the first time lunged at Roy and bit him in the neck and >made a bloody scene. Roy subsequently underwent surgery. Can you imagine >being in that audience? > > - D. M. Don't get to see that every day! BB From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 11:41:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94Gfn21023723 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:41:49 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B2F351E601C7; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:39:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 821641E601C6 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:39:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009ECF80@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:35:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13050662 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:35:39 -0400 Received: from fe1.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94GZ9o00666 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:35:09 -0400 Received: from [151.199.31.245] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO bc.edu) by fe1.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.1) with ESMTP id 33811233 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 12:35:04 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7EF6B0.1020001@bc.edu> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 12:34:56 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Molly is ! References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Not a church goer myself, I didn't give any thought to the blessing of animals today. But, my sister called a little while ago and asked if I would like to take Molly (who has had a LOT of medical attention lately) to the Catholic church to be blessed. We went. Molly is blessed. There was sprinkling. There was also a St. Bernard who thought that Molly might make a nice lunch...but we got over that. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 11:48:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94GmW21023837 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:48:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1A7581E601C8; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:44:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE1A1E601C6 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:44:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009ECF8D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:40:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13050794 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:40:18 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94GeHo01047 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:40:17 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h94GeEKI020749 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:40:16 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000801c38a97$3fb001a0$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3F7EF6B0.1020001@bc.edu> Subject: Re: Molly is ! Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:47:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Not a church goer myself, I didn't give any thought to the blessing of > animals today. But, my sister called a little while ago and asked if I > would like to take Molly (who has had a LOT of medical attention lately) > to the Catholic church to be blessed. > > We went. Molly is blessed. There was sprinkling. There was also a St. > Bernard who thought that Molly might make a nice lunch...but we got over > that. > > Rita L. I think that maybe the animals are blessing people more than the people are blessing the animals. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 11:49:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94Gn421023878 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:49:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 539401E601CA; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:46:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DF991E601C8 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:46:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009ECF9E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:42:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13050833 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:42:54 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94Ggro01184 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:42:54 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h94Ggr8b008878 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:42:53 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.102]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h94GgpfC029036 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:42:52 -0400 Message-ID: <002f01c38a96$8e80a970$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3F7EB607.5B2AD1D2@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Interesting Stuff Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:42:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" > "Those who primarily watch Fox News are significantly more likely to > have misperceptions, while those who primarily listen to NPR or watch > PBS are significantly less likely." > > http://truthout.org/docs_03/100403F.shtml > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Hi Natalie, What do you think the bias indicates? 'Alan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 11:55:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94GtT21023955 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:55:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 97D441E601C8; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:53:24 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AF181E601C7 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:53:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009ECF97@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:49:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13050936 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:49:19 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law9-oe28.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94GnJo01604 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:49:19 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 09:49:13 -0700 Received: from 199.174.2.108 by law9-oe28.law9.hotmail.com with DAV; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 16:49:13 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [199.174.2.108] X-Originating-Email: [amyb_short@hotmail.com] From: "Amy Burns Short" To: Subject: Re: Subways Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:49:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Oct 2003 16:49:13.0763 (UTC) FILETIME=[71093730:01C38A97] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > And I'll be thinking of "Some Like It Hot" all day >now, you rat. > > >JMW > > And I'll be thinking of Hotel del Coronado! > > AS >>Er, uh, why the del Coronado? Am I missing something? No, not yet. >I have a lovely sweatshirt I bought >in their gift shop one very chilly >day. > - D. M. We decided the best time to be was on a warm day, not a chilly day. Cryptically yours, AS -- aka The Emerging AW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 11:58:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94GwU21023969 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:58:30 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EFFEF1E601C8; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:56:25 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF4081E601C7 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:56:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009ECFB7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:52:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13050961 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:52:21 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94GqKo01741 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:52:20 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h94GqJW1007738 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 09:52:19 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h94GqHWq007724; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 09:52:18 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031004095231.00a89340@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 09:53:36 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Subways In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:49 AM 10/4/2003 -0500, Amy Burns Short wrote: >Cryptically yours, > >AS -- aka The Emerging AW :-) Where will Thanksgiving be? Anyone ever shake and bake a turkey? BB From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 11:59:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94Gx421023984 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:59:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BC5C61E601CA; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:56:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ED831E601C8 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:56:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009ECFB8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:52:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13050976 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:52:54 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law9-oe27.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.84]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94Gqso01779 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:52:54 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 09:52:48 -0700 Received: from 199.174.2.108 by law9-oe27.law9.hotmail.com with DAV; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 16:52:48 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [199.174.2.108] X-Originating-Email: [amyb_short@hotmail.com] From: "Amy Burns Short" To: Subject: Re: John Hannum's death Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:52:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Oct 2003 16:52:48.0994 (UTC) FILETIME=[F152DC20:01C38A97] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = John Hannum, 53, died suddenly of heart failure Monday afternoon. > In the course of our emails, I >ended up sending him a copy of the Volkskrant, and he >sent me a >cassette he made from the radio. I'll miss him. John was a witty, wonderful correspondent even with comparing weather reports from our respective areas of the state. May he rest in peace. AS From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 12:01:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94H1q21024037 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:01:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6CF981E601C7; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:59:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FBAC1E601A6 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:59:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009ECFBC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:55:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13051044 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:55:42 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94Gtgo01943 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:55:42 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.162.88]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031004165540.TWCX1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:55:40 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7EFB8A.BD09CB16@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 11:55:38 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Affirmations References: <20031004144659.56843.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > > Clare is also the PS of eye disorders and TV. And > > she was enamored of > > St. Francis of Assisi. And she wore clothes made of > > human hair. > > So St. Clare is a sort of catch-all PS. Some are even more versatile than St. Clare. St. Agatha, for example, is PS of bellmakers, breast disease, fire prevention, nurses; St. Barbara of architects, artillerymen, builders, fire prevention, miners, thunder-storms; St. Catherine of Alexandria of millers, philosophers, preachers, scribes, secretaries, stenographers, students; St. Christopher of bookbinders, epilepsy, gardeners, mariners, pestilence, thunder-storms, travelers; St. Genesius of actors, epilepsy, musicians, printers, secretaries, stenographers, theatrical performers; St. James the Apostle of arthritis, Chile, hatmakers, laborers, milliners, rheumatism; St. John of God of booksellers, fire fighters, heart patients, hospitals, nurses, printers, publishers, sick; St.Joseph of Canada, carpenters, church, dying, fathers, Peru, social justice, universal church; St. Luke of artists, brewers, butchers, doctors, glassworkers, painters, physicians, surgeons; St. Nicholas of Myra of bakers, brewers, brides, children, merchants, pawnbrokers, travelers; St. Roch of dogs, dog lovers, epidemics, knee problems, invalids, pestilence -- to name just a few that are more versatile than St. Clare. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 12:03:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94H3j21024062 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:03:45 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 55D051E601C7; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:01:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 277631E601A6 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:01:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0018E3A0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:57:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13051108 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:57:35 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94GvZo02073 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:57:35 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.162.88]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031004165733.TWTE1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:57:33 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7EFBFA.4B94F76@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 11:57:30 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Molly is ! References: <3F7EF6B0.1020001@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: > > Not a church goer myself, I didn't give any thought to the blessing of > animals today. But, my sister called a little while ago and asked if I > would like to take Molly (who has had a LOT of medical attention lately) > to the Catholic church to be blessed. > > We went. Molly is blessed. There was sprinkling. There was also a St. > Bernard who thought that Molly might make a nice lunch...but we got over > that. You are inspiring me. I need to check the times again. I think it's the one at the Episcopal Church that's 4:00 today and the one at the Catholic Church 5:00 tomorrow. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 12:05:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94H5121024076 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:05:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BECA51E601C7; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:02:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 923581E601A6 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:02:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009ECFC5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:58:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13051123 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:58:51 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94Gwpo02118 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:58:51 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.162.88]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031004165849.TXEX1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:58:49 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7EFC47.CAC92C7D@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 11:58:47 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Interesting Stuff References: <3F7EB607.5B2AD1D2@maynor.net> <002f01c38a96$8e80a970$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alan Wild wrote: > > "Those who primarily watch Fox News are significantly more likely to > > have misperceptions, while those who primarily listen to NPR or watch > > PBS are significantly less likely." > > > > http://truthout.org/docs_03/100403F.shtml > > -- > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > Hi Natalie, > > What do you think the bias indicates? 'Alan What bias? I thought this was about erroneous information. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 12:05:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94H5D21024079 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:05:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 988761E601C7; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:03:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C1591E601A6 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:03:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009ECFB6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:59:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13051130 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:58:57 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law9-oe37.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.94]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94Gwvo02135 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:58:57 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 09:58:51 -0700 Received: from 199.174.2.108 by law9-oe37.law9.hotmail.com with DAV; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 16:58:51 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [199.174.2.108] X-Originating-Email: [amyb_short@hotmail.com] From: "Amy Burns Short" To: Subject: Re: Subways Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:58:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Oct 2003 16:58:51.0751 (UTC) FILETIME=[C98B2F70:01C38A98] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:49 AM 10/4/2003 -0500, Amy Burns Short wrote: >Cryptically yours, > >AS -- aka The Emerging AW >:-) Where will Thanksgiving be? Ooh, that's jumping way ahead! Don't forget Halloween! Answer to both: Here. > Anyone ever shake >and bake a turkey? It's a thought. I've shaken large breasts. AS P.S. What should John and I dress as when we take Carl out for Halloween? I told John I was tempted to buy him an Elvis wig I saw. I'll probably do my usual quasi-gypsy get-up. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 12:12:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94HCZ21024151 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:12:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 628401E601C7; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:10:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3106D1E601A6 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:10:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009ECFC2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:06:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13051274 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:06:25 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94H6Po03084 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:06:25 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h94H6OHL006091 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 10:06:24 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h94H6MjD006060; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 10:06:23 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031004100646.00a2e950@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 10:07:41 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Subways In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:58 AM 10/4/2003 -0500, Amy Burns Short wrote: >P.S. What should John and I dress as when we take Carl out for Halloween? I >told John I was tempted to buy him an Elvis wig I saw. I'll probably do my >usual quasi-gypsy get-up. Larry thinks John should be Davy Crockett. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 12:16:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94HGH21024246 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:16:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3586A1E601CA; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:14:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 081CB1E601C7 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:14:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009ECFB9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:10:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13051320 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:10:07 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94HA6o03664 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:10:07 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.162.88]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031004171004.LQEW1781.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:10:04 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7EFEEA.2B410DDB@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 12:10:02 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Affirmations References: <20031004144659.56843.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20031004100515.00a89100@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > I need St. Anthony. Which one? Anthony of Padua is PS of barren women, lost articles, poor, travelers; Anthony the Abbot of basket makers, butchers, gravediggers; and Antony of domestic animals. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 12:17:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94HH821024270 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:17:08 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 61FE91E601C7; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:15:03 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 340111E601A6 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:15:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009ECFD9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:10:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13051334 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:10:58 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94HAwo03783 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:10:58 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h94HAv8b009277 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:10:57 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.102]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h94HAufC031823 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:10:56 -0400 Message-ID: <006001c38a9a$7a7a7bf0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3F7EB607.5B2AD1D2@maynor.net> <002f01c38a96$8e80a970$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3F7EFC47.CAC92C7D@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Interesting Stuff Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:10:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" > Alan Wild wrote: > > > "Those who primarily watch Fox News are significantly more likely to > > > have misperceptions, while those who primarily listen to NPR or watch > > > PBS are significantly less likely." > > > > > > http://truthout.org/docs_03/100403F.shtml > > > -- > > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > > > Hi Natalie, > > > > What do you think the bias indicates? 'Alan > > What bias? I thought this was about erroneous information. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Hi again Natalie, I don't think so... I think it's just the way the info is interpreted. I've never heard an outright lie on FOX, but they are perceptibly pro-Bush... as opposed to NPR which is perceptibly anti-Bush. I couldn't believe the zeal in Bob Edwards' voice the other morning when he announced (finally :) that more than half of the American people consider the war a mistaken endeavor. I appreciated the 60 Minutes segment recently when a Sgt was interviewed and he stated that all that the media was pushing was the sensational stuff, mostly negative, and that so much more positive is going on behind the scenes in Iraq: improvements to schools, hospitals, and the quality of life in terms of freedom and democracy. 'Alan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 12:19:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94HJU21024319 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:19:30 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 58DCA1E601C7; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:17:25 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B7CB1E601A6 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:17:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009ECFC3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:13:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13051414 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:13:20 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law9-oe64.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94HDKo03944 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:13:20 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 10:13:14 -0700 Received: from 199.174.2.108 by law9-oe64.law9.hotmail.com with DAV; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 17:13:14 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [199.174.2.108] X-Originating-Email: [amyb_short@hotmail.com] From: "Amy Burns Short" To: Subject: Re: Subways Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:13:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Oct 2003 17:13:14.0645 (UTC) FILETIME=[CBDE5C50:01C38A9A] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >P.S. What should John and I dress as when we take Carl out for Halloween? I >told John I was tempted to buy him an Elvis wig I saw. I'll probably do my >usual quasi-gypsy get-up. >Larry thinks John should be Davy Crockett. Good! Or perhaps local boy Daniel Boone. We'll certainly be well protected in that case: We will also have Superman in our party. AS >Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 12:21:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94HL421024334 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:21:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9CE061E601CA; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:18:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F4FA1E601A6 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:18:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0018E3AE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:04:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13051257 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:04:10 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94H4Ao02822 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:04:10 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h94H48W1016688 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 10:04:08 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h94H47Wq016638 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 10:04:07 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031004100515.00a89100@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 10:05:26 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Subject: Re: Affirmations In-Reply-To: <3F7EFB8A.BD09CB16@maynor.net> References: <20031004144659.56843.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:55 AM 10/4/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Lynne Weber wrote: > > > > > Clare is also the PS of eye disorders and TV. And > > > she was enamored of > > > St. Francis of Assisi. And she wore clothes made of > > > human hair. > > > > So St. Clare is a sort of catch-all PS. > >Some are even more versatile than St. Clare. St. Agatha, for example, >is PS of bellmakers, breast disease, fire prevention, nurses; St. >Barbara of architects, artillerymen, builders, fire prevention, miners, >thunder-storms; St. Catherine of Alexandria of millers, philosophers, >preachers, scribes, secretaries, stenographers, students; St. >Christopher of bookbinders, epilepsy, gardeners, mariners, pestilence, >thunder-storms, travelers; St. Genesius of actors, epilepsy, musicians, >printers, secretaries, stenographers, theatrical performers; St. James >the Apostle of arthritis, Chile, hatmakers, laborers, milliners, >rheumatism; St. John of God of booksellers, fire fighters, heart >patients, hospitals, nurses, printers, publishers, sick; St.Joseph of >Canada, carpenters, church, dying, fathers, Peru, social justice, >universal church; St. Luke of artists, brewers, butchers, doctors, >glassworkers, painters, physicians, surgeons; St. Nicholas of Myra of >bakers, brewers, brides, children, merchants, pawnbrokers, travelers; >St. Roch of dogs, dog lovers, epidemics, knee problems, invalids, >pestilence -- to name just a few that are more versatile than St. Clare. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I need St. Anthony. BB From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 12:22:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94HMd21024349 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:22:39 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 406551E601C7; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:20:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12F411E601A6 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:20:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009ECFD8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:16:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13051472 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:16:29 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94HGSo04811 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:16:29 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h94HGR2f019488 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 10:16:27 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h94HGQJC019473; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 10:16:26 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031004101700.00a2e220@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 10:17:44 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Affirmations In-Reply-To: <3F7EFEEA.2B410DDB@maynor.net> References: <20031004144659.56843.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20031004100515.00a89100@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:10 PM 10/4/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty wrote: > > > I need St. Anthony. > >Which one? Anthony of Padua is PS of barren women, lost articles, poor, >travelers; Anthony the Abbot of basket makers, butchers, gravediggers; >and Antony of domestic animals. I'm still looking for lost articles. I bought the saint at MissionFest but it didn't help. BB From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 12:25:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94HPF21024396 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:25:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8A1C51E601CA; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:23:10 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BF921E601A6 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:23:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0018E3D0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:19:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13051547 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:19:05 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94HJ4o05227 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:19:04 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h94HJ3RP030893 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:19:03 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h94HJ2gP030891 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:19:02 +0200 Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:19:02 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: just when you thought it was safe Message-ID: <20031004171902.GA30876@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20031004065327.GB30041@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas: = On Sat, 4 Oct 2003, steph wrote: = = >= Bethany, new kid at HH (but a new kid who now has her own 24/7 secure, = >= reserved, enclosed parking space! = > = >Someday I will probably covet this. But not now. = = Do you have to swim to your vehicle on a public parking lot as I had to = in the Old City? And are you unable to go out on Thursday, Friday, and = Saturday evenings because there will be no place to park when = you come home? = There's always a parking space somewhere, but it may not be very close or very easy to find. And it is worse on those nights, plus I have to be careful where I park between Friday and Sunday so it doesn't get towed for the market on Monday morning, which narrows down the number of close spaces considerably. We'd all be in serious trouble here in Amsterdam if we had to swim to our cars. I park on the street, it's a pain in the ass, but I don't want your spot just yet. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 12:30:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94HUd21024442 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:30:39 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1E0221E601CC; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:28:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E15681E601A6 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:28:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009ECFE4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:24:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13051624 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:24:29 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94HOSo05901 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:24:28 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 0FB2D2B8E8; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 10:24:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03C302B137 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 10:24:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 10:24:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: John Hannum's death In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 4 Oct 2003, Marty Rosen wrote: > This sucks. Yes. Hiya Marty. Did you fish in the river you lived by, or wasn't it that kind of river. What kind of river was it. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 12:48:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94Hm021024709 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:48:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9DDA21E601CC; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:45:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C9471E601CA for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:45:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009ED013@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:41:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13052224 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:41:50 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94Hfoo07336 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:41:50 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h94HfmKI000809 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:41:49 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000401c38a9f$d921a5c0$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3F7EB607.5B2AD1D2@maynor.net> <002f01c38a96$8e80a970$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3F7EFC47.CAC92C7D@maynor.net> <006001c38a9a$7a7a7bf0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Subject: Re: Re: Interesting Stuff Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:49:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > > > > > > http://truthout.org/docs_03/100403F.shtml > > > > -- > > > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > > > > > Hi Natalie, > > > > > > What do you think the bias indicates? 'Alan > > > > What bias? I thought this was about erroneous information. > > > > -- > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > > Hi again Natalie, > > I don't think so... I think it's just the way the info is interpreted. I've > never heard an outright lie on FOX, but they are perceptibly pro-Bush... as > opposed to NPR which is perceptibly anti-Bush. I couldn't believe the zeal > in Bob Edwards' voice the other morning when he announced (finally :) that > more than half of the American people consider the war a mistaken endeavor. > > I appreciated the 60 Minutes segment recently when a Sgt was interviewed and > he stated that all that the media was pushing was the sensational stuff, > mostly negative, and that so much more positive is going on behind the > scenes in Iraq: improvements to schools, hospitals, and the quality of life > in terms of freedom and democracy. > > 'Alan I was surprised to hear a news report concerning Bush on CNN a day or two ago that reeked of someone's opinion . . and to hear the zeal and glee between the lines. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 12:55:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94Htc21024781 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:55:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D59671E601CE; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:53:32 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4E4F1E601CC for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:53:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018E43A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:49:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13052134 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:49:27 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94HdQo07162 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:39:26 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h94HdHAR027793 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:39:19 -0400 Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:39:24 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: just when you thought it was safe In-Reply-To: <20031004171902.GA30876@yoccoz.multinix.com> Message-ID: References: <20031004065327.GB30041@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20031004171902.GA30876@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 4 Oct 2003, steph wrote: >I park on the street, it's a pain in the ass, but I don't want >your spot just yet. Good. I served my time ... when I said that there would be no place to park, I meant NO PLACE - not just something inconvenient. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 13:01:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94I1I21024885 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:01:18 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 509C91E601CE; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:59:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22CFD1E601CC for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:59:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009ED03E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:55:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13052582 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:55:08 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94Ht7o08110 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:55:07 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h94Hsp2f008803 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 10:54:51 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h94HsoJC008770; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 10:54:50 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031004105458.00a2ea00@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 10:56:08 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Interesting Stuff In-Reply-To: <000401c38a9f$d921a5c0$facadece@0018079268> References: <3F7EB607.5B2AD1D2@maynor.net> <002f01c38a96$8e80a970$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3F7EFC47.CAC92C7D@maynor.net> <006001c38a9a$7a7a7bf0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:49 PM 10/4/2003 -0500, Doris Markland wrote: >I was surprised to hear a news report concerning Bush >on CNN a day or two ago that reeked of someone's opinion >. . and to hear the zeal and glee between the lines. > > - D. M. You can always find that from someone no matter who is the target. Why does it surprise you? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 13:15:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94IFL21025134 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:15:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3C2BF1E601D0; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:13:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 035F91E601CE for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:13:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009ED071@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 14:09:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13052930 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 14:09:11 -0400 Received: from web20503.mail.yahoo.com (web20503.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.138]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h94I9Ao09199 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 14:09:11 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 11:09:09 PDT Message-ID: <20031004180910.6970.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:09:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Subways To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Larry thinks John should be Davy Crockett. > > Good! Or perhaps local boy Daniel Boone. We'll > certainly be well protected > in that case: We will also have Superman in our > party. > >Betty If he hasn't already, John might explore Kit Carson's history. This was a true man's man - woefully undereducated, but the supreme gentleman - and one of the heroes of New Mexican history. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 13:16:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94IGj21025155 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:16:45 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C12051E601D0; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:14:39 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922AC1E601CF for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:14:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009ED068@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 14:10:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13052968 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 14:10:34 -0400 Received: from web20506.mail.yahoo.com (web20506.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h94IAYo09272 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 14:10:34 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 11:10:33 PDT Message-ID: <20031004181033.13455.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:10:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Affirmations To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031004101700.00a2e220@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I'm still looking for lost articles. I bought the > saint at MissionFest but > it didn't help. It hardly seems credible, but perhaps you offended him in some way. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 13:20:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94IKJ21025246 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:20:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CD0221E601CE; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:18:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BE431E601CC for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:18:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009ED07B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 14:14:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13053030 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 14:14:08 -0400 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h94IE8o09469 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 14:14:08 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 11:14:07 PDT Message-ID: <20031004181407.66218.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:14:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Interesting Stuff To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <000401c38a9f$d921a5c0$facadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I was surprised to hear a news report concerning > Bush > on CNN a day or two ago that reeked of someone's > opinion > . . and to hear the zeal and glee between the lines. > > I am wondering if garden variety newspeople just read their news, or may they, like national anchors, write their own scripts. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 13:31:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94IVk21025430 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:31:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 74A541E601D0; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:29:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 438021E601CE for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:29:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0018E4B2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 14:25:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13053342 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 14:25:36 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94IPao10391 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 14:25:36 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0018E4A7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 14:25:35 -0400 Message-Id: <200310041825.h94IPao10391@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 14:25:36 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Affirmations To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 05:57:39 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Rita Chapman wrote: > >> a) who is the patron saint of shapeless >> jumpers > >Do they contain any embroidery? St. Clare is the PS of embroiderers, >which I guess isn't quite the same as being the PS of embroidery and is >certainly not the same as being the PS of jumpers without embroidery. >Clare is also the PS of eye disorders and TV. And she was enamored of >St. Francis of Assisi. And she wore clothes made of human hair. > >For more info, see: Thanks, that's quite enough info. As she is the patron saint of eye disorders, I suggest that we merely pretend that we that the jumpers were embroidered, and go with St. Clare. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 14:05:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94J5H21025845 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 14:05:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 028751E601D0; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 14:03:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C20501E60006 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 14:03:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009ED0CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 14:59:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13054120 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 14:59:06 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94Ix6o12923 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 14:59:06 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h94Ix4RP031015 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:59:05 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h94Ix45u031013 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:59:04 +0200 Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:59:04 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: just when you thought it was safe Message-ID: <20031004185904.GA31007@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20031004065327.GB30041@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20031004171902.GA30876@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas: = On Sat, 4 Oct 2003, steph wrote: = = >I park on the street, it's a pain in the ass, but I don't want = >your spot just yet. = = Good. I served my time ... when I said that there would be no place to = park, I meant NO PLACE - not just something inconvenient. = = Bethany Excuse me. How could there be NO PLACE? Eventually you'd get far enough away to find one. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 14:08:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94J8P21025880 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 14:08:25 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E1FF31E601D0; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 14:06:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B090A1E60006 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 14:06:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009ED0D0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 15:02:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13054184 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 15:02:14 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94J2Eo13117 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 15:02:14 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h94J2AKI024000 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 14:02:11 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000801c38aab$130bffa0$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3F7EB607.5B2AD1D2@maynor.net> <002f01c38a96$8e80a970$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3F7EFC47.CAC92C7D@maynor.net> <006001c38a9a$7a7a7bf0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <4.2.2.20031004105458.00a2ea00@uclink.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Interesting Stuff Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 14:09:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > At 12:49 PM 10/4/2003 -0500, Doris Markland wrote: > >I was surprised to hear a news report concerning Bush > >on CNN a day or two ago that reeked of someone's opinion > >. . and to hear the zeal and glee between the lines. > > > > - D. M. > > You can always find that from someone no matter who is the target. Why does > it surprise you? > > Betty There was just something in the tone of it that caught my ear. Anyway, this was not a political commentary but supposedly a straight news report . . but it didn't sound like one. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 14:10:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94JAn21025886 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 14:10:49 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6528E1E601D1; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 14:08:43 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 378841E60006 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 14:08:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009ED0F6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 15:04:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13054253 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 15:04:38 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94J4co13254 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 15:04:38 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h94J4ZKI027704 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 14:04:36 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001301c38aab$69a3f7a0$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200310041825.h94IPao10391@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Affirmations Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 14:12:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 05:57:39 -0500, Natalie Maynor > wrote: > > >Rita Chapman wrote: > > > >> a) who is the patron saint of shapeless > >> jumpers > > > >Do they contain any embroidery? St. Clare is the PS of embroiderers, > >which I guess isn't quite the same as being the PS of embroidery and is > >certainly not the same as being the PS of jumpers without embroidery. > >Clare is also the PS of eye disorders and TV. And she was enamored of > >St. Francis of Assisi. And she wore clothes made of human hair. > > > >For more info, see: > > Thanks, that's quite enough info. > > As she is the patron saint of eye disorders, I suggest that we merely > pretend that we that the jumpers were embroidered, and go > with St. Clare. > > clo lf I believed in saints per se I should then choose St. Clare. I embroider. I have eye problems. My mother's name was Claire, and she was a saint. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 14:30:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94JUW21026130 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 14:30:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 556331E601D1; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 14:28:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2817E1E60006 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 14:28:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009ED10B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 15:24:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13054660 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 15:24:21 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f23.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.23]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94JOLo14442 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 15:24:21 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:24:15 -0700 Received: from 149.160.22.98 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 19:24:15 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.22.98] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: John Hannum's death Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 15:24:15 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Oct 2003 19:24:15.0539 (UTC) FILETIME=[19539830:01C38AAD] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Um. I feel a bit left out here, as if I don't quite know what you mean; >From: Ann Borkin >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: John Hannum's death >Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 10:24:27 -0700 > >On Sat, 4 Oct 2003, Marty Rosen wrote: > > > This sucks. > >Yes. > >Hiya Marty. Did you fish in the river you lived by, or wasn't it that >kind of river. What kind of river was it. > >Ann _________________________________________________________________ Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $29.95/month (depending on the local service providers in your area). https://broadband.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 15:44:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94Kip21027403 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 15:44:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 39CC01E601D4; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 15:42:45 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 069F91E601D1 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 15:42:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009ED1F4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 16:38:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13056932 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 16:38:40 -0400 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94Kcdo19681 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 16:38:39 -0400 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h94KcZsV3678338 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 15:38:35 -0500 Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 15:38:35 -0500 (CDT) From: poor old johnny ray X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Theological Question In-Reply-To: <3F7E0848.F7827317@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <200310031228.h93CSTcN020060@ra.msstate.edu> <3F7E0848.F7827317@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.0.4.76838 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: > Hmm. I would need more context to make a interpretation, Well, I'm just passing on a fascinating bit of trivia I got from my pal Ralph the Franciscan. Someone, somewhere, at some time must have read it that way. Or, perhaps, it's just some O.F.M. in-joke that I don't get. Ralph's got a weird sense of humor. -- "I don't even pay taxes!" From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 16:04:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94L4c21027838 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 16:04:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ED6941E601D9; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 16:02:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF1AE1E601D7 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 16:02:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009ED239@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 16:58:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13057092 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 16:58:26 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94KmQo20169 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 16:48:26 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h94KmHAR023876 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 16:48:18 -0400 Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 16:48:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: just when you thought it was safe In-Reply-To: <20031004185904.GA31007@yoccoz.multinix.com> Message-ID: References: <20031004065327.GB30041@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20031004171902.GA30876@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20031004185904.GA31007@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 4 Oct 2003, steph wrote: >Excuse me. How could there be NO PLACE? Eventually you'd get >far enough away to find one. Oh well, yes, if you leave the Old City and downtown Knoxville neighborhoods completely. Once, I had to drive all the way back to the university where I have a reserved parking place to find a place to leave my vehicle. If a colleague on my floor had not been working late, I would have had to pay for a taxi in order to get home. I was not amused - especially since I was carrying a fresh, hot pizza. And of course I had to walk to UT the next morning - there was no Old City-campus bus service at that time - and there is none now except some evenings, mostly Fri/Sat I think. The neighborhoods through which once must walk are not at all safe at night. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 16:12:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94LCo21027925 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 16:12:50 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 800531E601DA; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 16:10:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E3C11E60094 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 16:10:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009ED2CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:06:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13058683 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:06:39 -0400 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94L6do21750 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:06:39 -0400 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h94L6ZsV4997224 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 16:06:35 -0500 Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 16:06:35 -0500 (CDT) From: poor old johnny ray X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Cremaster of Architecture In-Reply-To: <20031004014220.99553.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031004014220.99553.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.0.4.76838 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne: > Dutch architect who had such a dramatic influence in > the Chicago skyline? Ludwig Mies vander Rohe Question marks on both: a) is this the person you're thinking of, and b) is this how you spell the man's name -- P.S.: Some folks'd translate your "dramatic influence" as "ass-ugly buildings". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 16:23:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94LNj21028112 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 16:23:45 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 905C21E601DA; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 16:21:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62F9B1E60094 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 16:21:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009ED2EC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:17:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13058995 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:17:33 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94LHXo22428 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:17:33 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A5tmR-0002xl-LT for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 17:17:36 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031004141616.038081b8@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 14:18:32 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: The Cremaster of Architecture In-Reply-To: References: <20031004014220.99553.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> <20031004014220.99553.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU poor old johnny ray writes, >a) is this the person you're thinking of, and >b) is this how you spell the man's name a) he's German, despite the name, and b) Ludwig Mies van der Rohe I was wondering if she's thinking of Rem Koolhaas. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 16:47:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94Lkx21028422 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 16:47:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4E9031E601DD; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 16:44:53 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C921E601DC for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 16:44:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009ED350@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:40:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13059840 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:40:48 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94Lelo23954 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:40:48 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h94Lel8b012866 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:40:47 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.103]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h94LekfC025085 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:40:46 -0400 Message-ID: <001601c38ac0$2bd15980$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "Wordslurs" Subject: Supah News! Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:40:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Some Sgt, home on leave from the Middle East, was out partying. His wife waited up for him, and when he got home she presented him with the news: they won $150 million in some mega-bucks lottery ;-) YES! YES! YES! ;-) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 17:06:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94M6221028680 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:06:03 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 33F141E601DC; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:03:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02DC61E601DB for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:03:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009ED37E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:59:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13060427 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:59:51 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94Lxoo25110 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:59:50 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A5uRN-0006Sg-9t for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 17:59:53 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031004145948.0334c008@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 15:00:49 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Supah News! In-Reply-To: <001601c38ac0$2bd15980$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alan Wild writes, >YES! YES! YES! ;-) Home from South Korea. Still very cool. :) Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 17:08:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94M8I21028732 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:08:18 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BC0441E601DD; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:06:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E4551E601DC for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:06:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0018E783@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:02:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13060669 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:02:06 -0400 Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94M26o25389 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:02:06 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1c5.f2f3d8a (4246) for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:01:52 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1c5.f2f3d8a.2cb09d4f@aol.com> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:01:51 EDT Subject: shoes To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I guess I'm going to have to buy golf shoes so that I can take Daisy for a walk. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 17:15:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94MFi21028824 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:15:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0181E1E601DE; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:13:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43AC1E601DC for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:13:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009ED3D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:09:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13060877 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:09:32 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94M9Wo25771 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:09:32 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h94M9W8b013275 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:09:32 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.103]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h94M9UfC027801 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:09:31 -0400 Message-ID: <000d01c38ac4$2f8256c0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031004145948.0334c008@mail.istori.com> Subject: Re: Re: Supah News! Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:09:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Right - thanks Pete... I was regurgitating from memory of the news the other morning... ;-) Thx for the link! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Kaminski" To: Sent: Saturday, 04 October, 2003 6:00 PM Subject: Re: Supah News! > Alan Wild writes, > > >YES! YES! YES! ;-) > > Home from South Korea. Still very cool. :) > > > > Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 17:33:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94MXq21029140 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:33:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1F1411E601DE; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:31:45 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1A261E601DC for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:31:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009ED3FE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:27:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13061578 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:27:39 -0400 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h94MRdo26952 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:27:39 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 15:27:39 PDT Message-ID: <20031004222739.10524.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 15:27:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: just when you thought it was safe To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031004185904.GA31007@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Excuse me. How could there be NO PLACE? Eventually > you'd get > far enough away to find one. Not if everyone else did the same thing. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 17:36:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94Mam21029185 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:36:48 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A4F091E601DF; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:34:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 760801E601DE for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:34:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009ED410@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:30:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13061617 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:30:36 -0400 Received: from web20509.mail.yahoo.com (web20509.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.144]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h94MUao27069 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:30:36 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20509.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 15:30:35 PDT Message-ID: <20031004223035.40298.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 15:30:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: John Hannum's death To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> >Hiya Marty. Did you fish in the river you lived > by, or wasn't it that > >kind of river. What kind of river was it. > > > >Ann "River of No Return"? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 17:40:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94MeD21029253 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:40:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4BA341E601DF; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:38:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E0101E601DE for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:38:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009ED425@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:34:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13061795 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:34:01 -0400 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h94MY0o27308 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:34:00 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 15:34:00 PDT Message-ID: <20031004223400.19563.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 15:34:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: The Cremaster of Architecture To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Ludwig Mies vander Rohe > > Question marks on both: > > a) is this the person you're thinking of, and > b) is this how you spell the man's name > > -- > P.S.: Some folks'd translate your "dramatic > influence" as "ass-ugly buildings". Yeah, that's the fellow. These two interpretations may converge, at some point. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 17:40:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94MeS21029257 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:40:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 80FA11E601E0; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:38:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 523291E601DF for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:38:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009ED436@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:34:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13061799 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:34:10 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94MY9o27334 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:34:09 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.143.97]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031004223408.MWYQ1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:34:08 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7F4ADD.C0AC1A17@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 17:34:05 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Interesting Stuff References: <3F7EB607.5B2AD1D2@maynor.net> <002f01c38a96$8e80a970$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3F7EFC47.CAC92C7D@maynor.net> <006001c38a9a$7a7a7bf0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alan Wild wrote: > > What bias? I thought this was about erroneous information. > > I don't think so... I think it's just the way the info is interpreted. I've > never heard an outright lie on FOX, but they are perceptibly pro-Bush... as What I meant was that the people in the survey had erroneous information. So, yes, I can see how the media bias could lead to erroneous interpretations. Iiuc, the survey was about factual matters -- things like "Has it been established that Saddam planned the 9/11 attacks?" The majority of those who said yes were watchers of FOX. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 17:41:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94MfR21029268 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:41:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 55C2A1E601DF; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:39:20 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 265BB1E601DE for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:39:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009ED418@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:35:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13061812 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:35:15 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94MZEo27383 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:35:14 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.143.97]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031004223513.MXDP1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:35:13 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7F4B1E.4DD28A27@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 17:35:10 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Affirmations References: <20031004144659.56843.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20031004100515.00a89100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031004101700.00a2e220@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > >Which one? Anthony of Padua is PS of barren women, lost articles, poor, > >travelers; Anthony the Abbot of basket makers, butchers, gravediggers; > >and Antony of domestic animals. > > I'm still looking for lost articles. I bought the saint at MissionFest but > it didn't help. Maybe you bought the wrong Anthony. Maybe you got the one for basket makers, butchers, and gravediggers. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 17:42:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94Mg121029285 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:42:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2269E1E601DF; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:39:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E94EA1E601DE for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:39:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009ED427@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:35:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13061819 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:35:48 -0400 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h94MZmo27395 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:35:48 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 15:35:48 PDT Message-ID: <20031004223548.19848.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 15:35:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: The Cremaster of Architecture To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031004141616.038081b8@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > a) he's German, despite the name, and > b) Ludwig Mies van der Rohe > > I was wondering if she's thinking of Rem Koolhaas. > This supposes that she thinks at all. Kool house? Fiddle! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 17:43:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94MhX21029323 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:43:33 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 603E81E601DF; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:41:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 309071E601DE for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:41:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009ED429@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:37:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13061845 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:37:21 -0400 Received: from web20506.mail.yahoo.com (web20506.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h94MbKo27485 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:37:20 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 15:37:20 PDT Message-ID: <20031004223720.67100.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 15:37:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: shoes To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1c5.f2f3d8a.2cb09d4f@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > I guess I'm going to have to buy golf shoes so that > I can take Daisy for a walk. > > Evelyn Duncan > brandykitt@aol.com > http://www.thehungersite.com Or roller skates. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 17:44:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94Mic21029334 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:44:39 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EBAEE1E601DF; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:42:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE0D91E601DE for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:42:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0018E807@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:38:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13061901 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:38:26 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94McQo27530 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:38:26 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.143.97]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031004223825.MXUA1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:38:25 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7F4BDE.C8DCAB16@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 17:38:22 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: just when you thought it was safe References: <20031004065327.GB30041@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20031004171902.GA30876@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > plus I have to be careful where I park between Friday and Sunday > so it doesn't get towed for the market on Monday morning, which What drove me crazy the summer I spent in Chicago, parking on the city streets, was having to remember which days to move my car where because of street-sweepers. I guess I should also have worried about getting home late at night and having to park several blocks away, walking through the dark streets of South Chicago alone, but I didn't really -- though I did remind myself to keep my keychain with its whistle in my hand until I got inside International House, my home. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 17:46:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94Mkt21029389 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:46:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E2D841E601E0; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:44:48 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4D9D1E601DF for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:44:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009ED42D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:40:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13061981 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:40:43 -0400 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h94Meho27637 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:40:43 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 15:40:42 PDT Message-ID: <20031004224042.52668.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 15:40:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Affirmations To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F7F4B1E.4DD28A27@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Maybe you bought the wrong Anthony. Maybe you got > the one for basket > makers, butchers, and gravediggers. This would work if caskets were woven. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 17:49:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94MnO21029428 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:49:24 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 581591E601E0; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:47:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A5521E601DE for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:47:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009ED445@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:43:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13062064 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:43:12 -0400 Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94MhCo27946 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:43:12 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.3f.22f3ca33 (16930) for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:43:01 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <3f.22f3ca33.2cb0a6f4@aol.com> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:43:00 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] shoes To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/4/2003 5:37:39 PM Central Daylight Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > I guess I'm going to have to buy golf shoes so that > I can take Daisy for a walk. > > Evelyn Duncan > brandykitt@aol.com > http://www.thehungersite.com Or roller skates. >> No, I want to keep my footing. Speaking of animals, I wonder why the tiger attacked Roy. The tiger had been a part of the act for quite some time. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 17:51:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94MpC21029459 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:51:12 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AFFFA1E601E2; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:49:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C3231E601E1 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:49:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009ED459@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:45:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13062095 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:45:00 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94Mj0o28045 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:45:00 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.143.97]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031004224459.MYXS1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:44:59 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7F4D67.5598A25F@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 17:44:55 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: just when you thought it was safe References: <20031004065327.GB30041@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20031004171902.GA30876@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Good. I served my time ... when I said that there would be no place to > park, I meant NO PLACE - not just something inconvenient. Like when I went to the p.o. this morning. A kind parking-lot guard took pity on me, though, and moved a barricade to let me go down and park beside the dumpster to run into the p.o. And she didn't charge me the $10 that particular lot was charging today. I guess the fb game is over now. I wonder how bad we lost this one. And this was our last creampuff game. (So far the creampuffs have creamed us. Not all of our games so far have been against creampuffs -- we've also played LSU -- and I think Oregon is considered good, isn't it? But at least half of our games, all of which we've lost, have been creampuff games. The rest of the season is full of non-creampuffs.) Oh -- Spencer is unbless, alas. I went out to lunch with a friend visiting from out of town and then we dawdled around and came back to my house and sat and talked until 4:00, which was when the blessing was to take place at the Episcopal Church. Maybe I'll take him to the Catholic Church tomorrow afternoon. Catholics have closed communion. Do they have open dog-blessings? Like will Spencer be welcome there? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 17:53:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94MrJ21029502 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:53:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7EDDB1E601E2; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:51:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D491E601DF for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:51:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009ED44B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:47:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13062112 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:47:07 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94Ml7o28179 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:47:07 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.143.97]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031004224705.MZKR1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:47:05 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7F4DE6.72CA5D3D@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 17:47:02 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Interesting Stuff References: <3F7EB607.5B2AD1D2@maynor.net> <002f01c38a96$8e80a970$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3F7EFC47.CAC92C7D@maynor.net> <006001c38a9a$7a7a7bf0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <000401c38a9f$d921a5c0$facadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > I was surprised to hear a news report concerning Bush > on CNN a day or two ago that reeked of someone's opinion > . . and to hear the zeal and glee between the lines. I think that's not unusual. I assume since it was on CNN it was saying things about how wonderful Bush is. I was glad that WhatsherName, the CNN woman in Iraq, finally admitted that she had been muzzled. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 17:56:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94MuG21029544 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:56:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CC68D1E601DF; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:54:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AB311E601DE for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:54:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009ED451@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:50:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13062298 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:50:04 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94Mo4o28462 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:50:04 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h94Mo2W1015545 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 15:50:03 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h94Mo1Wq015525; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 15:50:02 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031004155050.00a49b00@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 15:51:18 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: shoes In-Reply-To: <3f.22f3ca33.2cb0a6f4@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:43 PM 10/4/2003 -0400, Evelyn Duncan wrote: >Speaking of animals, I wonder why the tiger attacked Roy. >The tiger had been a part of the act for quite some time. If he was really any good, he would have made him disappear. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 17:57:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94Mv421029553 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:57:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 455851E601DF; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:54:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 182F71E601DE for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:54:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009ED460@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:50:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13062308 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:50:52 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94Mopo28490 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:50:51 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h94MooW1016101 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 15:50:50 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h94MonWq016080; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 15:50:49 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031004155130.00aa4d50@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 15:52:06 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Affirmations In-Reply-To: <20031004181033.13455.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> References: <4.2.2.20031004101700.00a2e220@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:10 AM 10/4/2003 -0700, Lynne Weber wrote: > > I'm still looking for lost articles. I bought the > > saint at MissionFest but > > it didn't help. > >It hardly seems credible, but perhaps you offended him >in some way. Yes, that is my job. I offend. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 17:57:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94MvS21029561 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:57:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7368A1E601DF; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:55:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45E9C1E601DE for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:55:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009ED453@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:51:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13062321 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:51:16 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94MpFo28523 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:51:15 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h94MpFHL007773 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 15:51:15 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h94MpCjD007756; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 15:51:13 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031004155221.00aaa690@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 15:52:30 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Affirmations In-Reply-To: <3F7F4B1E.4DD28A27@maynor.net> References: <20031004144659.56843.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20031004100515.00a89100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031004101700.00a2e220@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:35 PM 10/4/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty wrote: > > > >Which one? Anthony of Padua is PS of barren women, lost articles, poor, > > >travelers; Anthony the Abbot of basket makers, butchers, gravediggers; > > >and Antony of domestic animals. > > > > I'm still looking for lost articles. I bought the saint at MissionFest but > > it didn't help. > >Maybe you bought the wrong Anthony. Maybe you got the one for basket >makers, butchers, and gravediggers. That would explain a lot. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 18:10:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94NAo21029768 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:10:50 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 24C681E601E0; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:08:43 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5A751E601DE for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:08:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009ED49A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:04:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13062711 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:04:37 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94N4bo29508 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:04:37 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 9FEBB2B8D2; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 16:04:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 904F12B8DC for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 16:04:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 16:04:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: John Hannum's death In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 4 Oct 2003, Marty Rosen wrote: > Um. I feel a bit left out here, as if I don't quite know what you mean; > I thought you were in a cabin by a river. Was it a cabin? Was there a river, or did I make that up? Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 18:14:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94NE021029846 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:14:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BC7C71E601E0; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:11:53 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B7C61E601DE for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:11:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009ED494@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:07:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13062797 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:07:48 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94N7mo29716 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:07:48 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h94N7m8b013949 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:07:48 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.103]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h94N7kfC000730 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:07:46 -0400 Message-ID: <003c01c38acc$52f38b80$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3F7EB607.5B2AD1D2@maynor.net> <002f01c38a96$8e80a970$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3F7EFC47.CAC92C7D@maynor.net> <006001c38a9a$7a7a7bf0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3F7F4ADD.C0AC1A17@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Interesting Stuff Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:07:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" > Alan Wild wrote: > > > > What bias? I thought this was about erroneous information. > > > > I don't think so... I think it's just the way the info is interpreted. I've > > never heard an outright lie on FOX, but they are perceptibly pro-Bush... as > > What I meant was that the people in the survey had erroneous > information. So, yes, I can see how the media bias could lead to > erroneous interpretations. Iiuc, the survey was about factual matters > -- things like "Has it been established that Saddam planned the 9/11 > attacks?" The majority of those who said yes were watchers of FOX. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Hi Natalie, yep... I understand the result, I think ;-P It's why intelligent people would respond the way they did is what concerns me. I think people project more on an emotive level than factual in polls of these types. The whole issue of terrorism is highly emotional to start with... and politics are generally emotionally persuasive in nature. The two, more or less distinct populations of people who resonate with FOX versus NPR are polar opposites in many political ways. (Please note: I don't care to defend that statement... I haven't the time or patience. I'm hoping that you will reach and perceive the obvious differences between the two.) My point is that the FOX-resonant folks are protracting this into a larger Keep-Iraq-Toothless issue, since they, and I, understand that we are up against new weapons in this new age of guerilla world warfare. We have to be proactive if we are to survive, culturally, economically, and socially intact. I believe that. 'Alan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 18:14:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94NEF21029849 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:14:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6578B1E601E0; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:12:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 363BB1E601DF for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:12:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009ED4A5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:08:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13062801 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:08:03 -0400 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94N82o29733 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:08:02 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h94N7h7Q013141 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 16:07:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F7F5298.5080407@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 18:07:04 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: just when you thought it was safe References: <20031004065327.GB30041@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20031004171902.GA30876@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3F7F4D67.5598A25F@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Oh -- Spencer is unbless, alas. I went out to lunch with a friend > visiting from out of town and then we dawdled around and came back to my > house and sat and talked until 4:00, which was when the blessing was to > take place at the Episcopal Church. Maybe I'll take him to the Catholic > Church tomorrow afternoon. Catholics have closed communion. Do they > have open dog-blessings? Like will Spencer be welcome there? St. B. will have the blessing tomorrow at 1pm. If you jump in your car and drive fast, Spencer can get blessed with Vinnie. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 18:33:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94NX521030242 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:33:05 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 58C451E601E2; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:30:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25BEA1E60053 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:30:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009ED4D0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:26:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13063215 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:26:52 -0400 Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94NQqo30772 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:26:52 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.19a.1b1968e8 (2519) for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:26:43 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <19a.1b1968e8.2cb0b133@aol.com> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:26:43 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] shoes To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I wish someone would come up with something to calm Daisy. She almost pulled me over again today. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 18:35:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94NZx21030266 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:35:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C0CFA1E601E6; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:33:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F7631E601E2 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:33:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009ED4BD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:29:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13063302 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:29:34 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94NTOo31105 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:29:24 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.143.97]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031004232924.XTAW1810.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:29:24 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7F57CF.F248A93A@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 18:29:19 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: just when you thought it was safe References: <20031004065327.GB30041@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20031004171902.GA30876@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3F7F4D67.5598A25F@maynor.net> <3F7F5298.5080407@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > St. B. will have the blessing tomorrow at 1pm. If you jump > in your car and drive fast, Spencer can get blessed with Vinnie. This is the kind of thing that makes me realize that I am in fact older now than I used to be. At earlier times in my life, I would have seriously considered doing that. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 18:37:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94NbP21030302 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:37:25 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7FBD21E601E2; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:35:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51D481E60053 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:35:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009ED4C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:31:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13063352 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:31:13 -0400 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94NVCo31376 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:31:12 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h94NVAIE007047 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 16:31:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F7F5806.6030806@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 18:30:14 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: shoes References: <19a.1b1968e8.2cb0b133@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I like the obedience books by Brian Kilcommons quite a bit. He has a nice common sense approach. Evelyn Duncan wrote: > I wish someone would come up with something to calm Daisy. > She almost pulled me over again today. > > Evelyn Duncan > brandykitt@aol.com > http://www.thehungersite.com > > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 18:43:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94Nh221030419 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:43:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 880F81E601E6; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:40:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 559E51E60053 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:40:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009ED4E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:36:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13063539 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:36:50 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94Nano31954 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:36:50 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.143.97]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031004233650.XUWU1810.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:36:50 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7F598D.2422C8C6@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 18:36:45 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Interesting Stuff References: <3F7EB607.5B2AD1D2@maynor.net> <002f01c38a96$8e80a970$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3F7EFC47.CAC92C7D@maynor.net> <006001c38a9a$7a7a7bf0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3F7F4ADD.C0AC1A17@maynor.net> <003c01c38acc$52f38b80$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alan Wild wrote: > yep... I understand the result, I think ;-P It's why intelligent people > would respond the way they did is what concerns me. How do you know they are intelligent people? Another interesting research project might be a correlation between IQ and media choices. Not an easy project to carry out, of course. Probably impossible. > The two, more or less distinct > populations of people who resonate with FOX versus NPR are polar opposites > in many political ways. (Please note: I don't care to defend that > statement... I haven't the time or patience. I'm hoping that you will reach > and perceive the obvious differences between the two.) I believe you, but I can't reach and perceive it myself since I don't really know much about who watches or listens to what. I also know nothing first-hand about FOX news since I don't think I've ever seen it. Iow, my personal opinions aren't really involved in my delivering of the message of that survey. I do listen to NPR because that's what my car radio is set on and because I like it -- but not enough to turn it on in my house. When I do watch tv news, I watch CBS or sometimes Newsworld International (which jumps around but seems most often Canadian). I have also seen CNN many times, though not so much lately because I found its right-wing agenda annoying. I get 99.999% of my news from print media, some in hard copy, some online. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 18:44:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94NiI21030423 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:44:18 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C07571E601E2; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:42:10 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 906AF1E60053 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:42:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009ED4DE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:38:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13063608 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:38:05 -0400 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h94Nc5o32102 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:38:05 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 16:38:04 PDT Message-ID: <20031004233804.24833.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 16:38:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: shoes To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3f.22f3ca33.2cb0a6f4@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Or roller skates. > >> > > No, I want to keep my footing. > > Speaking of animals, I wonder why the tiger attacked > Roy. > The tiger had been a part of the act for quite some > time. I wonder, too. Weren't these tigers pretty much hand raised, not really wild at all? Something must have made him go nuts. I wonder if we'll ever know. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 18:44:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94NiW21030426 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:44:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 739DD1E601E2; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:42:25 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40A6C1E60053 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:42:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009ED4EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:38:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13063612 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:38:11 -0400 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94NcBo32108 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:38:11 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.163.2673965c (2519) for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:38:03 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <163.2673965c.2cb0b3da@aol.com> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:38:02 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] shoes To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/4/2003 6:31:25 PM Central Daylight Time, rouvalis@SWBELL.NET writes: << I like the obedience books by Brian Kilcommons quite a bit. He has a nice common sense approach. >> I'll call B. Dalton and see if it has the book. If I can't do something to calm her down, Mom's going to give her away. For sure this time. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 18:46:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94Nkc21030477 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:46:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DD9BC1E601E6; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:44:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A94AC1E601E2 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:44:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009ED4E5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:40:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13063665 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:40:25 -0400 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h94NePo32235 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:40:25 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 16:40:24 PDT Message-ID: <20031004234024.66551.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 16:40:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: shoes To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031004155050.00a49b00@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Betty wrote: > At 06:43 PM 10/4/2003 -0400, Evelyn Duncan wrote: > > >Speaking of animals, I wonder why the tiger > attacked Roy. > >The tiger had been a part of the act for quite some > time. > > If he was really any good, he would have made him > disappear. > > Betty :-] :-] :-] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 18:48:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94Nmb21030500 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:48:37 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5C23C1E601E6; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:46:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 267071E601E2 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:46:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009ED4EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:42:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13063734 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:42:25 -0400 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94NgOo32397 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:42:24 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h94NgN1R007193 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 16:42:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F7F5AA6.6060106@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 18:41:26 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: shoes References: <163.2673965c.2cb0b3da@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > In a message dated 10/4/2003 6:31:25 PM Central Daylight Time, > rouvalis@SWBELL.NET writes: > << > I like the obedience books by Brian Kilcommons quite a bit. > He has a nice common sense approach. > > > I'll call B. Dalton and see if it has the book. If I can't do > something to calm her down, Mom's going to give her > away. > > For sure this time. Obedience won't make her calm, but might make her more manageable. Puppies just tend to have lots of energy, just like kids. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 18:49:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94NnC21030516 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:49:12 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DCA351E601E6; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:47:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC4E01E601E2 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:47:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009ED50B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:42:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13063748 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:42:59 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f32.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.32]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94Ngxo32418 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:42:59 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 16:42:53 -0700 Received: from 216.195.153.59 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 23:42:53 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.195.153.59] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: John Hannum Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 23:42:53 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Oct 2003 23:42:53.0718 (UTC) FILETIME=[3AE1CB60:01C38AD1] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany: > > I remember John from the list and also from GoatRoast - staying up > > playing poker and gabbing into the wee hours, Emily and I on the > > road with John and Brad stopping inTupelo, Memphis, Oxford, > > hearing stories of Africa and France ... > >I now think I remember him from another life. He's in a good place He used to be on, what was it called, Bubba-L, something like that. _________________________________________________________________ High-speed Internet access as low as $29.95/month (depending on the local service providers in your area). Click here. https://broadband.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 18:49:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94NnJ21030521 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:49:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1E45A1E601E2; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:47:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E29941E60053 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:47:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009ED4ED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:43:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13063752 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:43:06 -0400 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94Nh6o32440 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:43:06 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.7f.3d420462 (2519) for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:42:57 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <7f.3d420462.2cb0b501@aol.com> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:42:57 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] shoes To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/4/2003 6:38:20 PM Central Daylight Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << I wonder, too. Weren't these tigers pretty much hand raised, not really wild at all? Something must have made him go nuts. I wonder if we'll ever know. >> Remember that tigers, even hand-raised ones, are feral creatures. Even Sweetie has her "Ninja Kitty" moments, still. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 18:50:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94NoZ21030536 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:50:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3A35F1E601E2; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:48:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C96B1E60053 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:48:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009ED510@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:44:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13063792 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:44:23 -0400 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94NiMo32513 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:44:22 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.9c.3607980b (2519) for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:44:14 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <9c.3607980b.2cb0b54e@aol.com> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:44:14 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] shoes To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/4/2003 6:42:33 PM Central Daylight Time, rouvalis@SWBELL.NET writes: << Obedience won't make her calm, but might make her more manageable. Puppies just tend to have lots of energy, just like kids. >> Anything to keep her from darting off on her own and pulling on the leash, upsetting the balance of the person holding said leash. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 18:53:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94Nrh21030596 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:53:43 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2BD451E601E6; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:51:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED0061E601E2 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:51:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009ED4FF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:47:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13063922 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:47:31 -0400 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94NlUo00352 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:47:30 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h94NlTw4007792 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:47:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3F7F5BD8.8040509@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 18:46:32 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: just when you thought it was safe References: <20031004065327.GB30041@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20031004171902.GA30876@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3F7F4D67.5598A25F@maynor.net> <3F7F5298.5080407@swbell.net> <3F7F57CF.F248A93A@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Rita Chapman wrote: > > >> St. B. will have the blessing tomorrow at 1pm. If you jump >>in your car and drive fast, Spencer can get blessed with Vinnie. >> > > This is the kind of thing that makes me realize that I am in fact older > now than I used to be. At earlier times in my life, I would have > seriously considered doing that. Aw, that would be fun. I actually wore Ana out today at the barn. Or, actually, I think the yearlings did. I rode for a little longer than she did today, and when I took the mare out to hotwalk her, Ana and another kid were out in the pasture running around with the babies. It was very cute :). Pulling myself back into shape to ride has been an interesting challenge. My head remembers what I'm supposed to be doing, but my body won't always cooperate. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 18:54:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h94NsL21030618 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:54:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1CA8D1E601E2; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:52:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2D371E60053 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:52:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009ED50E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:48:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13063935 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:48:08 -0400 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94Nm8o00385 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:48:08 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h94Nm7w4008104 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:48:07 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3F7F5BFE.1060700@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 18:47:10 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: shoes References: <9c.3607980b.2cb0b54e@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > In a message dated 10/4/2003 6:42:33 PM Central Daylight Time, > rouvalis@SWBELL.NET writes: > > << > Obedience won't make her calm, but might make her more > manageable. Puppies just tend to have lots of energy, just > like kids. > > > Anything to keep her from darting off on her own and pulling on > the leash, upsetting the balance of the person holding said leash. What kind of a collar are you using? -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 19:05:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9505u21030884 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:05:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 95F471E601E7; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:03:48 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 629841E601E6 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:03:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009ED533@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:59:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13064275 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:59:43 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h94Nxgo01284 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:59:43 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h94Nxg8b014600 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:59:42 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.103]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h94NxefC005127 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:59:41 -0400 Message-ID: <006401c38ad3$93702a40$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3F7EB607.5B2AD1D2@maynor.net> <002f01c38a96$8e80a970$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3F7EFC47.CAC92C7D@maynor.net> <006001c38a9a$7a7a7bf0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3F7F4ADD.C0AC1A17@maynor.net> <003c01c38acc$52f38b80$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3F7F598D.2422C8C6@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Interesting Stuff Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:59:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" > Alan Wild wrote: > > > yep... I understand the result, I think ;-P It's why intelligent people > > would respond the way they did is what concerns me. > > How do you know they are intelligent people? Another interesting > research project might be a correlation between IQ and media choices. > Not an easy project to carry out, of course. Probably impossible. I also think that both networks would bore the indolant quickly enough, and they'd resort to the remote hastily. TVLAND has Sanford&Son!!! I would not cast such an aspersion upon anyone as to claim they could not be capable of insight. I would be the fool if I did. When simple people speak in comfortable settings without trying to impress, they inevitably speak of the benefits of peace and harmony. I dig that. > > The two, more or less distinct > > populations of people who resonate with FOX versus NPR are polar opposites > > in many political ways. (Please note: I don't care to defend that > > statement... I haven't the time or patience. I'm hoping that you will reach > > and perceive the obvious differences between the two.) > > I believe you, but I can't reach and perceive it myself since I don't > really know much about who watches or listens to what. ;-) I like that thought, and perhaps I listen too close, since I am a certifiable paranoid ;-P > I also know > nothing first-hand about FOX news since I don't think I've ever seen > it. Iow, my personal opinions aren't really involved in my delivering > of the message of that survey. I do listen to NPR because that's what > my car radio is set on and because I like it -- but not enough to turn > it on in my house. When I do watch tv news, I watch CBS or sometimes > Newsworld International (which jumps around but seems most often > Canadian). I have also seen CNN many times, though not so much lately > because I found its right-wing agenda annoying. I get 99.999% of my > news from print media, some in hard copy, some online. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Mmmm, I only connected (found resonanance) with FOX about a year and a half ago since I was so urinated (pissed) with the local VHF news stations, and CNN was a wash with Peter Arnett, the schmuck. I hadn't thought about CNN as right-wing... hmmm... 'Will have to re-examine my mutant factor ;-) 'Love ya... 'Alan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 19:07:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9507x21030927 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:07:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D7F171E601E6; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:05:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A21A61E601E2 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:05:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009ED54B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:01:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13064341 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:01:46 -0400 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9501ko01438 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:01:46 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1a8.1a4d8721 (2519) for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:01:37 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1a8.1a4d8721.2cb0b960@aol.com> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:01:36 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] shoes To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/4/2003 6:48:27 PM Central Daylight Time, rouvalis@SWBELL.NET writes: What kind of a collar are you using? Standard type. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 19:12:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h950Cn21031044 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:12:49 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 598C11E601E8; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:10:42 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2446E1E601E7 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:10:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009ED54B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:06:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13064477 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:06:37 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9506bo01857 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:06:37 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0018E917@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:06:36 -0400 Message-Id: <200310050006.h9506bo01857@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:06:36 -0400 From: Anne Toal Subject: Re: shoes To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 16:38:04 -0700, Lynne Weber wrote: >I wonder, too. Weren't these tigers pretty much hand >raised, not really wild at all? Something must have >made him go nuts. I wonder if we'll ever know. Hmmmm...let me see. I am a tiger. A 59 year old man with a bad facelift and bleached two-tone hair was coming at me the same way he does six times a week. It's the same thing every time. He is an absurd soft pathetic creature. I am bored. I am a tiger. What should I do? -aht From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 19:30:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h950UQ21031459 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:30:26 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D35901E601E6; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:28:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A505F1E601E2 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:28:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009ED586@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:24:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13064857 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:24:13 -0400 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h950ODo02878 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:24:13 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h950OB1R019180 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:24:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F7F6471.1060409@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 19:23:13 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: shoes References: <1a8.1a4d8721.2cb0b960@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Try something else. If you don't like the idea of a choke collar, a gentle leader might work best. Evelyn Duncan wrote: > In a message dated 10/4/2003 6:48:27 PM Central Daylight Time, > rouvalis@SWBELL.NET writes: > What kind of a collar are you using? > > Standard type. > > Evelyn Duncan > brandykitt@aol.com > http://www.thehungersite.com > > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 19:42:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h950fx21031673 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:42:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 15B931E601EB; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:39:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC0701E600B7 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:39:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009ED5AD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:35:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13065298 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:35:46 -0400 Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h950Zko04104 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:35:46 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.9c.36079844 (2519) for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:35:36 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <9c.36079844.2cb0c158@aol.com> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:35:36 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] shoes To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/4/2003 7:24:23 PM Central Daylight Time, rouvalis@SWBELL.NET writes: << Try something else. If you don't like the idea of a choke collar, a gentle leader might work best. >> Gentle leader? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 19:51:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h950pe21031867 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:51:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9E8081E601EC; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:48:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D0D31E600B7 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:48:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009ED5BF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:44:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13065613 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:44:53 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h950iro05078 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:44:53 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018E97B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:44:52 -0400 Message-Id: <200310050044.h950iro05078@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:44:52 -0400 From: Anne Toal Subject: Re: John Hannum's death To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just dropped in on the list this evening because I hadn't checked in for a while, and this was the second message I read. I'm sorry for Hannum's death, even though I never met him. At my desk at work I keep a picture taken at one of the fests where Hannum is on a stair with a bunch of other people. It's weird to think that this person whole posts I read and enjoyed, and whose face is never far from me, is now gone, and I never heard his voice or shook his hand. Condolences to all who feel his loss. -aht From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 20:03:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9513K21032027 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:03:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E08C91E601EC; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:01:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADE4B1E601EB for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:01:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009ED5E7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:57:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13066022 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:57:07 -0400 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h950v6o06049 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:57:07 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h950v5IE024527 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:57:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F7F6C25.7070303@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 19:56:05 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: shoes References: <9c.36079844.2cb0c158@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.petsmart.com/products/product_17756.shtml Evelyn Duncan wrote: > In a message dated 10/4/2003 7:24:23 PM Central Daylight Time, > rouvalis@SWBELL.NET writes: > << > Try something else. If you don't like the idea of a choke > collar, a gentle leader might work best. > > > Gentle leader? > > Evelyn Duncan > brandykitt@aol.com > http://www.thehungersite.com > > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 20:03:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9513t21032038 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:03:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DD6911E601EB; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:01:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF2391E600B7 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:01:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009ED5CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:57:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13066038 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:57:42 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h950vgo06071 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:57:42 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h950vc2f003530 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:57:38 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h950vZJC003499; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:57:36 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031004175759.00a9ae00@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 17:58:51 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: John Hannum's death In-Reply-To: <200310050044.h950iro05078@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:44 PM 10/4/2003 -0400, Anne Toal wrote: >I just dropped in on the list this evening because I hadn't checked in for >a while, and this was the second message I read. I'm sorry for Hannum's >death, even though I never met him. At my desk at work I keep a picture >taken at one of the fests where Hannum is on a stair with a bunch of other >people. It's weird to think that this person whole posts I read and >enjoyed, and whose face is never far from me, is now gone, and I never >heard his voice or shook his hand. Condolences to all who feel his loss. > >-aht He is in the 1998 photo here. http://www.words-l.org/FTFs.html From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 20:08:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9518A21032193 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:08:10 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D60D71E601EE; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:06:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A662B1E601EB for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:06:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009ED5EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:01:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13066083 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:01:57 -0400 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9511vo06393 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:01:57 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.133.25f3f0a7 (4312) for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:01:37 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <133.25f3f0a7.2cb0c771@aol.com> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:01:37 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] shoes To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/4/2003 7:57:09 PM Central Daylight Time, rouvalis@SWBELL.NET writes: http://www.petsmart.com/products/product_17756.shtml Thanks! I'll see if Southern Agriculture has one for her. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 20:27:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h951Rr21032677 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:27:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3BDAB1E601EE; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:25:45 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 061C31E600BF for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:25:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0018E9DC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:21:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13066594 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:20:51 -0400 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h951Koo07763 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:20:50 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 18:20:49 PDT Message-ID: <20031005012049.38387.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:20:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: shoes To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200310050006.h9506bo01857@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Hmmmm...let me see. I am a tiger. A 59 year old man > with a bad facelift and > bleached two-tone hair was coming at me the same way > he does six times a > week. It's the same thing every time. He is an > absurd soft pathetic > creature. I am bored. I am a tiger. What should I > do? Yes, I have done this six times a week; and when I wasn't doing it, I was being trained to do it. I don't know any other way of life. He is soft and pathetic, but I don't want to eat him, I'm not hungry. I'm not cold, hot, in pain, or defending my young. I'm just mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore. This may be the day to regress to the wild I've never known. And so, your Honor, it was an act committed in the heat of anger. What I can't explain is why I quite suddenly became so lethally angry; but the microphone was the LAST straw. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 20:29:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h951Tm21032706 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:29:48 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 19DC71E601EF; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:27:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E01311E601EE for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:27:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009ED616@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:23:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13066679 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:23:34 -0400 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h951NXo07985 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:23:34 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 18:23:33 PDT Message-ID: <20031005012333.67624.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:23:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: shoes To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <9c.36079844.2cb0c158@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > In a message dated 10/4/2003 7:24:23 PM Central > Daylight Time, > rouvalis@SWBELL.NET writes: > << > Try something else. If you don't like the idea of a > choke > collar, a gentle leader might work best. > >> > > Gentle leader? That is what aliens are looking for when to say, "Take me to your gentle leader". __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 20:32:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h951Wm21000314 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:32:48 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 432AB1E601EF; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:30:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 121071E601EE for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:30:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009ED624@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:26:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13066785 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:26:35 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h951QYo08247 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:26:34 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[66.31.143.74]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003100501262901600md7ime> (Authid: adamh1); Sun, 5 Oct 2003 01:26:29 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "meebers" Subject: DSAI Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:26:28 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Going to the farm in Vermont till Wednesday. Don't say anything interesting! :D --Adam adamh1@comcast.net From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 20:45:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h951ji21000572 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:45:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 860C71E601EF; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:43:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5559C1E601EE for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:43:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009ED642@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:39:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13067115 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:39:31 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h951dUo09213 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:39:30 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.143.97]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031005013927.SSBZ1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:39:27 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7F764E.9C64BE3@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 20:39:26 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: John Hannum References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: > He used to be on, what was it called, Bubba-L, something like that. Yes. He and Brad were both active on Bubba-L, iirc. I glanced into that list a few times. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 20:49:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h951nL21000658 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:49:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C0F601E600BF; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:47:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B4F81E600BE for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:47:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009ED636@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:43:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13067152 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:43:08 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h951h8o09424 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:43:08 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.143.97]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031005014305.SSWB1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:43:05 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7F7727.C631C5D0@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 20:43:03 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Interesting Stuff References: <3F7EB607.5B2AD1D2@maynor.net> <002f01c38a96$8e80a970$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3F7EFC47.CAC92C7D@maynor.net> <006001c38a9a$7a7a7bf0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3F7F4ADD.C0AC1A17@maynor.net> <003c01c38acc$52f38b80$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3F7F598D.2422C8C6@maynor.net> <006401c38ad3$93702a40$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alan Wild wrote: > I hadn't thought about CNN as right-wing... hmmm... 'Will have to Amazing. I'm trying to think of some of the funny names it's been called in recent years. Can't remember them now, but it has definitely been laughed at almost as much as FOX has been. As I said earlier, my only knowledge of FOX news is hear-say. I do have first-hand knowledge of CNN, the Bushie propaganda machine. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 20:50:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h951oQ21000714 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:50:26 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4832B1E600BF; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:48:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19A581E600BE for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:48:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009ED65B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:44:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13067199 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:44:12 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h951iCo09501 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:44:12 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.143.97]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031005014409.STBU1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:44:09 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7F7768.5949F91A@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 20:44:08 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: John Hannum's death References: <200310050044.h950iro05078@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Anne Toal wrote: > > I just dropped in on the list this evening because I hadn't checked in for > a while, and this was the second message I read. I'm sorry for Hannum's > death, even though I never met him. At my desk at work I keep a picture > taken at one of the fests where Hannum is on a stair with a bunch of other > people. It's weird to think that this person whole posts I read and > enjoyed, and whose face is never far from me, is now gone, and I never > heard his voice or shook his hand. Condolences to all who feel his loss. It is sad that you returned to this sad news, but I am very glad you are here. Please stay longer. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 20:51:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h951p121000748 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:51:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1B0EA1E600BE; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:48:53 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E01981E601EF for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:48:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0018EA05@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:44:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13067215 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:44:47 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law9-oe15.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.119]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h951iho09526 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:44:44 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:44:38 -0700 Received: from 199.174.2.194 by law9-oe15.law9.hotmail.com with DAV; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 01:44:38 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [199.174.2.194] X-Originating-Email: [amyb_short@hotmail.com] From: "Amy Burns Short" To: Subject: Boisson du Choix du Soir Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:44:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Oct 2003 01:44:38.0339 (UTC) FILETIME=[3CC68130:01C38AE2] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Pour moi, Cruzan avec Fraises/Kiwi Diet Rite. AS From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 20:53:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h951rL21000800 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:53:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 16DB41E601EE; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:51:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC2A31E600BF for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:51:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009ED644@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:47:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13067260 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:47:07 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h951l6o09723 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:47:07 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.143.97]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031005014703.STTA1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:47:03 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7F7816.826AE14A@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 20:47:02 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: John Hannum's death References: <4.2.2.20031004175759.00a9ae00@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > He is in the 1998 photo here. http://www.words-l.org/FTFs.html What has happened to all the old fest pictures that were online? There were a good many of him at GoatRoast -- close-ups. It makes me sad that our old picture gallery seems to have vanished. A fair number of pictures vanished in the move of the web pages from here to Texas. But many of them remained. Now close to 100% of them seem to be lost. Why?? Where did they go? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 21:03:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9523F21001018 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:03:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 549491E601F2; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:01:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 230DA1E601F0 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:01:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009ED670@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:57:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13067259 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:57:01 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h951l0o09690 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:47:00 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h951kqAR003674 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:46:52 -0400 Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:47:00 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: shoes In-Reply-To: <1a8.1a4d8721.2cb0b960@aol.com> Message-ID: References: <1a8.1a4d8721.2cb0b960@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 4 Oct 2003, Evelyn Duncan wrote: >What kind of a collar are you using? > >Standard type. What kind is that? All the dogs I know (and will still occasionally walk) in the Old City wear harnesses. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 21:14:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h952Ea21001202 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:14:36 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 57DA61E601F0; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:12:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0756F1E601EF for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:12:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0018EA71@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:08:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13067797 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:08:22 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9528Mo11135 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:08:22 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.143.97]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031005020819.NYFK1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:08:19 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7F7D11.9DAD3F0F@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 21:08:17 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: John Hannum's death References: <4.2.2.20031004175759.00a9ae00@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3F7F7816.826AE14A@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This was a good picture of John: nancy-johnh.gif Nancy, John H, and Natalie's tv (from the old index of pictures) So where is it now? And where are all of these? (And yes -- why mince words. It does in fact piss me off that the gif collection I carefully tended apparently was flushed down the toilet after the web pages left here. If only that plan had been announced, I would have saved some of those pictures I would like to have kept.) 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201382* phyllis.gif Phyllis Petree 50270* phyllis-tat.gif Phyllis at Wordstock 95560* pig1.gif bandwidth pig award 95527* pig2.gif another picture of bwp award 136265* pigs.jpg Neal and Natalie on pigs 124055* porch.jpg the WL Lodge porch 91288* porch-culture.gif at Wordstock 75685* portland.gif Salmonbake group 156760* primate-love.gif Judith and Paul 84468* purple.gif at Wordstock 350440* queenie.gif Queenie Harwell 173213* rabbit-the-cat.gif Rabbit Harwell 38575* raccoon.jpg NOLA raccoon 60161* rash-norm.gif Rashmi and Norman 22035* rassmussens.jpg Wordstock West 79687* roman.gif Mike Roman 33790* salesman.jpg Nancy, Brenda, et al 53594* sandiego.gif breakfast in San Diego 14245* san-simeon.jpg Wordstock West 32253* scammed.jpg Nancy, Kathryn, Brenda 164280* seattle.jpg at the flagless RI flagpole 426736* shark.gif Karen and Karsten 154298* shark_small.gif Karen and Karsten 45185* sharon.gif Sharon Z. 87355* shirt.gif possible design for new t-shirt 8579* shoshana.jpg Shoshana 6323* silence.gif proposed clambake t-shirt 52370* silver-shadow.jpg Betty at the wheel 61964* smith.jpg Giggles-Thanatopsis: Smith 68096* snow.gif Starkville, Mississippi, 1992 16854* solvang.jpg Wordstock West 17471* steph.jpg Steph 91025* steph2.jpg newer Steph 150935* steph-gt.gif Steph and Graham in England 103406* steph.pat.gif Steph and Pat 38972* steve-emily.gif Steve, Emily, and Honda sign 60788* steve-johnh.gif Steve and John H. 20070* stevephyllis.jpg Steve and Phyllis 170124* stratford.jpg Wordslers at Stratford, Ontario 156840* swing.jpg Giggles in the park 21170* sylviakeith.jpg Sylvia and Keith 888143* tanaka-family.gif Akio Tanaka and family 243758* terry.gif Terry Wild 128530* thaifood.jpg eating Thai food at Torondezvous 106706* tony.gif Tony Harminc 62526* tony2.gif a better gif of Tony 257299* torkel.gif Torkel Franzen 14604* torkel.marcia1.gif Torkel and Marcia 69898* torkel.marcia2.gif Torkel and Marcia 91091* torkel.marcia3.gif Torkel and Marcia 72144* torkel.marcia4.gif Torkel and Marcia 160815* train.jpg Wordslers at the park in Raleigh 500377* trio.gif Alyce and sons 23506* tvousdiners.jpg at Torondezvous 12633* tvousvolleyball.jpg at Torondezvous 18220* tuskar.jpg Tushar and Karsten 22188* verdant.gif Verdant 22776* verdant.jpg Verdant sans hair 31123* vic_keys.jpg Victoria Levy 47233* vinery.jpg Mary Ann, Natalie, Elwood, Bookrat 65202* virgils1.gif Wordslers in NY 77545* virgils2.gif Wordslers in NY 73839* virgils3.gif Wordslers in NY 57209* virgils4.gif Wordslers in NY 24854* waitress.jpg the Jerry-Tushar ftf 243305* who.is.this.gif mystery person 194378* wild.gif the Wild family 91025* wordstockchef.jpg the Wordstock chef 29344* wrdstck.jpg Wordstockers 278143* wsgroup.jpg Wordstock group shot 155805* wombat.gif Carolyn and child 114655* xmas.jpg on the Lodge porch 69290* young-love.gif young love at Wordstock from: ftp://ftp.msstate.edu/docs/words-l/index -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 21:15:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h952FS21001234 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:15:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 125C61E601F0; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:13:20 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D85B51E601EF for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:13:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009ED688@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:09:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13067806 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:09:14 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9529Eo11163; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:09:14 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HM9HQ001.U13; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:03:36 -0700 From: "John Williams" To: English Language Discussion Group Cc: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Message-ID: Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 19:03:36 -0700 X-Mailer: Netscape Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en Subject: Re: Subways X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > >P.S. What should John and I dress as when we take Carl out for > Halloween? I > >told John I was tempted to buy him an Elvis wig I saw. I'll > probably do my > >usual quasi-gypsy get-up. Hmm..... > > > Larry thinks John should be Davy Crockett. Oh, cool! Does that mean I can buy a flintlock rifle? 8-) JMW PS - my mother forbade the purchase of a coonskin cap because it caused baldness, supposedly. Well, I didn't get the damn cap, and I'm bald, so were's the damn justice in that, huh??? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 21:19:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h952Jk21001266 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:19:46 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5213A1E601F2; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:17:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 209161E601F0 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:17:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009ED697@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:13:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13067749 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:13:33 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9523Xo10929 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:03:33 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9523PAR005514 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:03:25 -0400 Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:03:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: banquet Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It is so nice to go to a conference banquet and discover that excellent food is available. It does not happen often. Tonight, it did. We concluded the George Garrett Festival with dinner at the UT Conference Center (downtown) - and had a superb meal before George delivered his last talk. We had various salad, fruit, relish thingies, then grilled salmon, duck a l'orange, turkey, ham, mushroom pasta frittata thingies, many vegetable thingies, good fresh-baked breads, butter (no marge!), and finally many interesting desserts. I chose cheesecake topped with blueberries and pomegranite /sp?/ seeds. Yummy! If SECOL meets here again in my lifetime, we'll have dinner there. I'll get a grant. George was great - insightful, down to earth, modest, funny. Jim Whitehead is dead - George told us tonight. I did not know. He is, I think, the only American poet who ever REALLY played prof. football. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 21:20:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h952Kq21001289 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:20:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EAFCA1E601F2; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:18:43 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B80671E601F0 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:18:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009ED68C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:14:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13067959 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:14:30 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h952EUo11550 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:14:30 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HM9HYS00.F0Q for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:08:52 -0700 From: "John Williams" To: English Language Discussion Group Message-ID: Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 19:08:52 -0700 X-Mailer: Netscape Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en Subject: Re: John Hannum's death X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At my desk at work I > keep a picture > taken at one of the fests where Hannum is on a stair with a bunch > of other > people. That's Slugfest. Yes, it was a good time. It's weird to think that this person whole posts I read and > enjoyed, and whose face is never far from me, is now gone, and I never > heard his voice or shook his hand. Condolences to all who feel his > loss. > -aht He was one of those men, when upon meeting, you knew was good. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 21:24:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h952OL21001367 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:24:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D00A51E601F2; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:22:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D5041E601F0 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:22:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018EAB8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:18:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13068001 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:18:07 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h952I7o11860 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:18:07 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A5yTL-0008R7-04 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 22:18:11 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031004190447.031c8568@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 19:19:04 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: shoes In-Reply-To: <3f.22f3ca33.2cb0a6f4@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan writes, >Speaking of animals, I wonder why the tiger attacked Roy. Excerpted from the Las Vegas Review-Journal: >Audience members said the tiger, a 7-year-old named Montecore who actually >has performed in the show for years, refused a command to lie down and >then clamped its jaws on Horn's right arm. > >The magician repeatedly struck the animal in the head with a microphone, >the sound reverberating throughout the auditorium. > >The tiger then lunged at Horn, clamped its jaws around his neck and pulled >him out of the audience's view.... Moral: if you're going to whack an uncooperative tiger on the head, you'd best use something a whole lot more substantial than a microphone, or it's just going to get more pissed off. Although I'm sure that's a whole lot easier to contemplate when your arm is not clamped inside the tiger's mouth. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 21:32:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h952Wf21001537 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:32:41 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1243A1E601F2; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:30:33 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D789E1E601F0 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:30:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009ED6AF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:26:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13068168 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:26:27 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h952QRo12957 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:26:27 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.143.97]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031005022626.ZDKK1810.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:26:26 -0400 Message-ID: <3F7F814F.8C62F9A2@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 21:26:23 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: banquet References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Jim Whitehead is dead - George told us tonight. I did not know. He is, I > think, the only American poet who ever REALLY played prof. football. You weren't paying attention when I announced that a while back. I even told about the passionate kiss he and I engaged in. No, he did not play professional football. He went to Vanderbilt on a football scholarship but had to give it up because of an injury. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 21:34:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h952YI21001554 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:34:18 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EA39B1E601F2; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:32:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB5451E601F0 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:32:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009ED6A7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:28:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13068229 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:28:04 -0400 Received: from web20503.mail.yahoo.com (web20503.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.138]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h952S4o13232 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:28:04 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 19:28:03 PDT Message-ID: <20031005022803.4929.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:28:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: shoes To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > What kind is that? All the dogs I know (and will > still occasionally walk) > in the Old City wear harnesses. > > Bethany There are also harnesses which restrict the movement of dogs to curtail pulling and jumping. Any good pet store/feed store should have them. If not, try Foster & Smith on line. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 21:51:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h952pQ21001895 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:51:26 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6FE111E601F5; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:49:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 418961E601F4 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:49:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009ED709@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:45:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13068794 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:45:12 -0400 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h952jBo14320 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:45:12 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.6b.1a2bfaef (25508) for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:45:01 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <6b.1a2bfaef.2cb0dfac@aol.com> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:45:00 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] shoes To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/4/2003 8:57:14 PM Central Daylight Time, dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes: << What kind is that? All the dogs I know (and will still occasionally walk) in the Old City wear harnesses. >> We may have to get one for her. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 21:56:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h952us21002012 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:56:54 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 117CE1E601F4; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:54:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D23C81E601F3 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:54:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018EB44@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:50:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13069056 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:50:40 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h952oeo14822 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:50:40 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h952oc2f026858 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:50:38 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h952oZJC026815; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:50:35 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031004195103.00a43560@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 19:51:50 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Subways In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:03 PM 10/4/2003 -0700, John Williams wrote: >PS - my mother forbade the purchase of a coonskin cap because it caused >baldness, supposedly. Well, I didn't get the damn cap, and I'm bald, >so were's the damn justice in that, huh??? You're all grown up now, John. I think you should buy the cap! With superman with you, you don't need the rifle. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 22:06:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9536f21002171 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:06:41 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ADEE01E601F6; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:04:32 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C2FE1E601F5 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:04:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009ED7B0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 23:00:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13070147 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 23:00:19 -0400 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9530Jo15773 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 23:00:19 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 20:00:18 PDT Message-ID: <20031005030018.15001.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:00:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: shoes To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <6b.1a2bfaef.2cb0dfac@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > We may have to get one for her. > Is your mom feeling any better today? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 22:12:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h953Cc21002222 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:12:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6DFE61E601F6; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:10:29 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B08F1E601F5 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:10:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009ED8D4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 23:06:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13072419 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 23:06:24 -0400 Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9536No17046 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 23:06:23 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.198.208b8304 (25508) for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 23:06:12 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <198.208b8304.2cb0e4a4@aol.com> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 23:06:12 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] shoes To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/4/2003 10:00:48 PM Central Daylight Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << Is your mom feeling any better today? >> Yes, she had some soup, and I got her some gatorade. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 22:24:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h953Oo21002379 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:24:50 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 834DB1E601F3; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:22:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F8A01E601F7 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:22:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009ED995@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 23:18:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13073947 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 23:18:36 -0400 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h953IZo18326 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 23:18:35 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 20:18:35 PDT Message-ID: <20031005031835.80947.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:18:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: shoes To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <198.208b8304.2cb0e4a4@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Yes, she had some soup, and I got her some gatorade. I'm glad. Take good care of her. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 22:38:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h953cJ21002579 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:38:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 761E71E601F8; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:33:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48FE21E601F7 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:33:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009ED9C9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 23:29:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13074390 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 23:29:02 -0400 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h953T2o18918 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 23:29:02 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.10.36389dcd (25508) for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 23:28:55 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <10.36389dcd.2cb0e9f6@aol.com> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 23:28:54 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] shoes To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/4/2003 10:18:54 PM Central Daylight Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << I'm glad. Take good care of her. >> I try, but she doesn't tell me what goes on during the day. She'd rather tell Tom! Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 22:41:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h953fL21002609 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:41:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 62A321E601FD; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:39:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EE921E601F7 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:39:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009ED9E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 23:35:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13074513 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 23:35:07 -0400 Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com (web20502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h953Z6o19393 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 23:35:06 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 20:35:06 PDT Message-ID: <20031005033506.64837.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:35:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: shoes To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <10.36389dcd.2cb0e9f6@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I try, but she doesn't tell me what goes on during > the day. > She'd rather tell Tom! Sometimes older people behave like children, and you want to shake them. You can only do what she allows you to do. She knows she needs you. Parents love to play their children off each other. I know it can be a trial, though. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 22:45:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h953jo21002649 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:45:50 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3BDD21E601FD; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:43:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B04F1E601FC for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:43:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009ED9EA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 23:39:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13074586 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 23:39:35 -0400 Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (imo-r05.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h953dZo19560 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 23:39:35 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.6e.32b062a7 (25508) for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 23:39:25 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <6e.32b062a7.2cb0ec6d@aol.com> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 23:39:25 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] shoes To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/4/2003 10:35:37 PM Central Daylight Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << Sometimes older people behave like children, and you want to shake them. >> Yes, such as when we were in the hospital; she wanted everything done immediately and didn't want to wait. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 4 23:36:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h954aR21003441 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 23:36:30 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 952741E60204; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 23:34:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 607911E601FE for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 23:34:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EDBB7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 0:30:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13078354 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 00:30:13 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h954UCo24500 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 00:30:12 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h954U5KI004384 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 23:30:10 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <003101c38afa$69099a80$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3F7EB607.5B2AD1D2@maynor.net> <002f01c38a96$8e80a970$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3F7EFC47.CAC92C7D@maynor.net> <006001c38a9a$7a7a7bf0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <000401c38a9f$d921a5c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F7F4DE6.72CA5D3D@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Interesting Stuff Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 23:37:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Doris Markland wrote: > > > I was surprised to hear a news report concerning Bush > > on CNN a day or two ago that reeked of someone's opinion > > . . and to hear the zeal and glee between the lines. > > I think that's not unusual. I assume since it was on CNN it was saying > things about how wonderful Bush is. I was glad that WhatsherName, the > CNN woman in Iraq, finally admitted that she had been muzzled. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Interesting. CNN is generally considered to have a slightly liberal bias. I am slow to believe, but a few recent comments made me wonder - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 00:45:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h955jl21004804 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 00:45:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8BAD81E60208; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 00:43:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BC671E60206 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 00:43:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0018EFF7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 1:39:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13080123 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 01:39:32 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h955dVo28665 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 01:39:31 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h955dSKI008196 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 00:39:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000801c38b04$180ad900$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Hmm Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 00:46:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h955jl21004804 Saturday night and no one is up late. What the **** kind of list is this? Bunch of wusses. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 00:50:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h955oj21004885 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 00:50:45 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 21DCC1E6020F; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 00:48:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8DA61E6020E for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 00:48:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EDC61@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 1:44:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13080277 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 01:44:30 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h955iUo28982 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 01:44:30 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A61h5-0008Fb-0Y for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 01:44:35 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031004223412.0305cbe8@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 22:36:46 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Interesting Stuff In-Reply-To: <3F7EB607.5B2AD1D2@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >"Those who primarily watch Fox News are significantly more likely to >have misperceptions, while those who primarily listen to NPR or watch >PBS are significantly less likely." Thanks, Natalie. I blogged a pointer to the survey report, and made a bar chart showing the different networks and percentages: . Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 03:02:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9582s21006855 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 03:02:54 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 23D241E6020F; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 03:00:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB07F1E6020D for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 03:00:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EDDD3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 3:56:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13083605 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 03:56:38 -0400 Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (imo-r05.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h957uco04637 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 03:56:38 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1c4.fc7b43d (4012) for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 03:56:28 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1c4.fc7b43d.2cb128ab@aol.com> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 03:56:27 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Hmm To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/5/2003 12:39:50 AM Central Daylight Time, dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM writes: << Saturday night and no one is up late. What the **** kind of list is this? Bunch of wusses. >> Define late. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 07:37:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h95CbS21009996 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 07:37:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EBCA81E6021F; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 07:35:15 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBF041E6021E for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 07:35:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018F387@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 8:31:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13088840 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 08:31:09 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h95CV9o22939 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 08:31:09 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.167.13]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031005123110.CCUJ1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 08:31:10 -0400 Message-ID: <3F800F08.3F89172F@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 07:31:04 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Interesting Stuff References: <3F7EB607.5B2AD1D2@maynor.net> <002f01c38a96$8e80a970$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3F7EFC47.CAC92C7D@maynor.net> <006001c38a9a$7a7a7bf0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <000401c38a9f$d921a5c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F7F4DE6.72CA5D3D@maynor.net> <003101c38afa$69099a80$facadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > CNN is generally considered to > have a slightly liberal bias. You are surely joking! Generally considered by whom?? In my world CNN is considered to be a government mouth-piece -- a propaganda machine. As I've said, I am not at all the right person to be making personal judgments about tv news sources since I don't watch tv as much as most people do. I have found CNN's cheerleading for Bush obnoxious at times, but I haven't watched it enough to be the proper analyst. So what I'm talking about here is not my own analysis of these news sources. I'm talking about what I hear and read about them -- e.g., that CNN is considered a Bush puppet though not quite to the degree that FOX is. Those two are quite often lumped together in things I hear/read. One example is on the masthead(?) of Information Clearinghouse: "NEWS YOU WON'T FIND ON CNN OR FOX Mooooo's." But that is far from the only place I regularly see them considered . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 07:38:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h95CcW21009999 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 07:38:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0F7A31E6021E; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 07:36:20 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D10461E6021C for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 07:36:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EE035@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 8:32:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13088851 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 08:32:14 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h95CWDo23003 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 08:32:13 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.167.13]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031005123215.CCZG1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 08:32:15 -0400 Message-ID: <3F800F49.8B07E28A@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 07:32:09 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Interesting Stuff References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031004223412.0305cbe8@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > > >"Those who primarily watch Fox News are significantly more likely to > >have misperceptions, while those who primarily listen to NPR or watch > >PBS are significantly less likely." > > Thanks, Natalie. I blogged a pointer to the survey report, and made a bar > chart showing the different networks and percentages: > . You noticed, I assume, that CNN was within just a point or two of FOX. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 07:42:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h95Cfx21010053 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 07:41:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 983651E6021D; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 07:39:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67DAF1E6021C for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 07:39:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EE039@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 8:35:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13088894 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 08:35:41 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h95CZNo23146 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 08:35:23 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.167.13]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031005123521.CDPX1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 08:35:21 -0400 Message-ID: <3F801004.F6F4157B@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 07:35:16 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Interesting Stuff References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031004223412.0305cbe8@mail.istori.com> <3F800F49.8B07E28A@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > You noticed, I assume, that CNN was within just a point or two of FOX. Wait -- I just looked at the report and saw that this isn't true. Where else did I see percentages recently with CNN and FOX within something like two points of each other? It was obviously not this particular report. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 07:52:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h95Cqo21010172 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 07:52:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6A9141E6021C; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 07:50:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DC791E601F3 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 07:50:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EE053@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 8:46:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13088920 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 08:46:32 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h95CaWo23210 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 08:36:32 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h95CaMAR003566 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 08:36:23 -0400 Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 08:36:29 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: banquet In-Reply-To: <3F7F814F.8C62F9A2@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3F7F814F.8C62F9A2@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 4 Oct 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >told about the passionate kiss he and I engaged in. No, he did not play >professional football. He went to Vanderbilt on a football scholarship >but had to give it up because of an injury. He did have a contract, though. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 09:11:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h95EBE21011034 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 09:11:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D0EE91E60222; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 09:09:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4EEB1E6014B for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 09:09:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EE105@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 10:04:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13090581 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 10:04:56 -0400 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h95E4to27967 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 10:04:55 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h95E4sw4021197 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 09:04:54 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3F8024CD.9040204@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 09:03:57 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words-l Subject: The Correction Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Apparently, Jonathan Franzen attempted a prank when he was a senior at WG, but it failed. Yesterday, he returned to fulfill said prank. I'm sure Dr. C. is thrilled. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 09:53:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h95Ers21011684 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 09:53:54 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 778801E60225; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 09:51:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 478551E60222 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 09:51:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EE113@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 10:22:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13090759 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 10:22:25 -0400 Received: from gw.pulitzer.net (gw.stltoday.com [209.96.51.19]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h95ECOo28479 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 10:12:25 -0400 Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net From: EMAF@STLtoday.com To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: rouvalis@swbell.net sent you this story from STLtoday.com Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 09:12:18 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU And here's the rest of the story. Webster Groves alums correct prank that failed in 1976 Below is the link to the story. http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/News/St.+Louis+City+%2F+County/8C1BB389A2D199B186256DB6001BB5D1?OpenDocument&Headline=Webster+Groves+alums+correct+prank+that+failed+in+1976&highlight=2%2Cfranzen _____________________________________________________________________ If you enjoyed getting this email about an interesting story, you might like the 3 O'Clock Stir from STLtoday.com. Sign up and you'll receive an email with 5 unique stories of the day, every Monday-Friday, at no charge. Sign up at http://newsletters.stltoday.com _____________________________________________________________________ Below is the story. In March 1976, Jonathan Franzen and five friends spent a sleepless Friday night on the roof of Webster Groves High School trying repeatedly - and, ultimately, unsuccessfully - to drop a steel-belted radial tire over the school's flagpole. Franzen, a novelist who chronicled the misadventure in an article for the New Yorker in June, returned to his alma mater on Saturday to finish the job. But this time Franzen and his friends used five enormous helium-filled balloons to hoist the tire up, over and around the 40-foot flagpole - an idea that he said he wished had occurred to him 27 years ago. The occasion was an informal reunion of DIOTI, the underground society that Franzen, 44, helped found as a Webster Groves junior. The collective's mission was to pull off good-natured pranks that, with a few exceptions, rankled administrators without doing permanent damage to school property. The flagpole episode was one of the group's more legendary flops. Franzen and his pal Chris Davis, a musician who now lives in Oakland, built an elaborate pulley device that was supposed to drag the tire from the school's roof to the pole and hoist it over. The bracket at the far end couldn't grip the flagpole, so the idea was scrapped. []The backup plan was to throw a lasso over the flagpole, and to lower the tire around the pole from atop a stepladder. That plan went awry when the lasso got caught a foot below the top of the pole. They tried to lower the tire to the flagpole anyway but, as Franzen wrote, it "sagged out of reach of the top." []Article prompted reunion[] As plans for a reunion began to gather steam after the New Yorker article was published, talk quickly began to circulate among DIOTI alumni of correcting the group's most nagging failure. "It continued to rankle," Franzen said, admiring the group's handiwork from the school's front steps Saturday. He said it had taken him and eight classmates more than an hour to delicately lift the tire over the flagpole using the balloons. Franzen, whose novel "The Corrections" won the National Book Award in 2002, admitted to mixed feelings about correcting the prank. "I find failure more interesting than success," he said. Others, including Jeff Rainford, 44, chief of staff for St. Louis Mayor Francis Slay, and Mike Kortenhof, 45, a state water quality manager in Portland, Ore., preferred to focus on DIOTI's more successful exploits. A favorite was the time they broke into the school overnight and removed the clappers from each of the school's 30 bells. Davis, 44, said the group knew about a trap door in the school's roof. "We had full access to the place at night," he said. []Success, at last[] True to form, the reunited DIOTI (the name is an anagram for "idiot") did not clue school administrators in to what they planned to do on Saturday, telling them only that they wanted to gather for a reunion outside the school at 4 p.m. "Mike Kortenhof spent about 15 minutes on the phone with the principal in what appeared to be tense and delicate negotiations," Franzen said. "I believe Mike gave a commitment to remove the tire by the end of the day." It was nearly 5 p.m. Saturday when Franzen, Davis and a third member of the Webster Groves class of 1977, Ben Manley, hoisted the tire up the flagpole. The tire got caught on the flag, but was freed once Principal Jon Clark lowered the Stars and Stripes. "It's all in fun," Clark said after leading Franzen and his classmates on a tour of the school Saturday. "I just want to make sure the kids know that this is not acceptable behavior." []Reporter William Lamb:[] []E-mail: wlamb@post-dispatch.com[] []Phone: 618-235-6142[] From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 11:16:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h95GGI21012545 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 11:16:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 32EBE1E601A0; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 11:14:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE4511E60115 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 11:14:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EE2F4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 12:09:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13095384 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 12:09:59 -0400 Received: from web20506.mail.yahoo.com (web20506.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h95G9wo06384 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 12:09:59 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 09:09:58 PDT Message-ID: <20031005160958.51168.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 09:09:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Interesting Stuff To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F800F08.3F89172F@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > You are surely joking! Generally considered by > whom?? In my world CNN > is considered to be a government mouth-piece -- a > propaganda machine. > As I've said, I am not at all the right person to be > making personal > judgments about tv news sources since I don't watch > tv as much as most > people do. I have found CNN's cheerleading for Bush > obnoxious at times, > but I haven't watched it enough to be the proper > analyst. So what I'm > talking about here is not my own analysis of these > news sources. I'm > talking about what I hear and read about them -- > e.g., that CNN is > considered a Bush puppet though not quite to the > degree that FOX is. > Those two are quite often lumped together in things > I hear/read. One > example is on the masthead(?) of Information > Clearinghouse: "NEWS YOU > WON'T FIND ON CNN OR FOX Mooooo's." But that is far > from the only place > I regularly see them considered . My husband, whose political positions lie slightly to the right of Attila the Hun's, regards CNN as liberally biased. I don't see it, either way. FOX is, as Pete points out, not really a news org., but I perceive that their positions are solidly conservative. Of the three traditional networks, it is my feeling that NBC is the most liberal. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 12:49:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h95HnT21013918 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 12:49:30 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 70CBB1E60082; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 12:47:15 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 418251E6007F for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 12:47:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EE3EA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 13:43:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13097814 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 13:43:09 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h95Hh9o12878 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 13:43:09 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EE3CB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 13:43:08 -0400 Message-Id: <200310051743.h95Hh9o12878@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 13:43:09 -0400 From: Anne Toal Subject: Re: shoes To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:19:04 -0700, Peter Kaminski wrote: >Moral: if you're going to whack an uncooperative tiger on the head, you'd >best use something a whole lot more substantial than a microphone, or it's >just going to get more pissed off. Hitting the tiger must have been meant to show the audience what superb control Roy held over the tiger. Siegfried has said that Roy has a kind of spiritual union with the tigers. Their web site, which has been taken down and replaced with a blank white page, used to feature a Shockwave animation of the faces of Siegfried and Roy morphing into the faces of two white tigers, reinforcing that message. You know, this whole Roy Horn tragedy has upset me. The whole reason I ever wanted to go to Vegas was to see S & R. In fact, this summer Graham and I came close to booking a Vegas holiday and I even visited the S & R web site to purchase advance tickets. But then the thing happened that we're finding happens far too often these days--work got in the way, the boss needed us on hand to send us somewhere, I had a training school to attend that couldn't be missed, there was a doctor's appointment that had been made 4 months in advance and couldn't be changed, blah blah blah. Not interesting, but what else do you do when that happens? Well, you put S & R on the back burner because "they'll always be there but this training class won't be taught again for a year." And now I've lost my chance forever. Damn and double damn. On the other hand, I have very conflicted feelings about what happened. There is always an impulse to call tragedies like this ironic, but what is ironic about it really? The tiger was acting like tigers are supposed to act. The fact that night after night (sometimes two times each day), the tiger *doesn't* take a swipe at the man was the weird thing. That was the "spectacle" that you paid to see. I am sorry for Roy, because it looks very bad for him, and for Siegfried who is undoubtedly distraught and lost. I'm sorry for the entertainment world who lost a genuinely weird and singular act. I'm also sorry for the tigers who are cooped in a gilded cage for the enjoyment of a bunch of tourists. The next thing to watch will be whether Montecore is put down for the attack. And then we will have a media circus as the animal rights people come out to protest S & R and support Montecore. -aht From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 12:57:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h95Hvg21014082 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 12:57:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B36C61E600EC; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 12:55:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78A291E6007F for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 12:55:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EE3E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 13:51:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13098094 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 13:51:21 -0400 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h95HpLo13500 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 13:51:21 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.39.3eaf01f9 (14374) for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 13:51:11 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <39.3eaf01f9.2cb1b40e@aol.com> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 13:51:10 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] shoes To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/5/2003 12:43:27 PM Central Daylight Time, toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM writes: << The next thing to watch will be whether Montecore is put down for the attack. >> I heard that since the tiger is a member of an endangered species, it won't be put down. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 13:16:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h95IGS21014381 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 13:16:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1C5171E60082; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 13:14:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9FAA1E6007F for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 13:14:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EE46E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 14:10:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13098962 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 14:10:08 -0400 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h95IA7o14844 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 14:10:07 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 11:10:07 PDT Message-ID: <20031005181007.26650.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 11:10:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: shoes To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200310051743.h95Hh9o12878@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Hitting the tiger must have been meant to show the > audience what superb > control Roy held over the tiger. Siegfried has said > that Roy has a kind of > spiritual union with the tigers. Their web site, > which has been taken down > and replaced with a blank white page, used to > feature a Shockwave animation > of the faces of Siegfried and Roy morphing into the > faces of two white > tigers, reinforcing that message. > > You know, this whole Roy Horn tragedy has upset me. > The whole reason I ever > wanted to go to Vegas was to see S & R. In fact, > this summer Graham and I > came close to booking a Vegas holiday and I even > visited the S & R web site > to purchase advance tickets. But then the thing > happened that we're finding > happens far too often these days--work got in the > way, the boss needed us > on hand to send us somewhere, I had a training > school to attend that > couldn't be missed, there was a doctor's appointment > that had been made 4 > months in advance and couldn't be changed, blah blah > blah. Not interesting, > but what else do you do when that happens? Well, you > put S & R on the back > burner because "they'll always be there but this > training class won't be > taught again for a year." And now I've lost my > chance forever. Damn and > double damn. > > On the other hand, I have very conflicted feelings > about what happened. > There is always an impulse to call tragedies like > this ironic, but what is > ironic about it really? The tiger was acting like > tigers are supposed to > act. The fact that night after night (sometimes two > times each day), the > tiger *doesn't* take a swipe at the man was the > weird thing. That was > the "spectacle" that you paid to see. > > I am sorry for Roy, because it looks very bad for > him, and for Siegfried > who is undoubtedly distraught and lost. I'm sorry > for the entertainment > world who lost a genuinely weird and singular act. > I'm also sorry for the > tigers who are cooped in a gilded cage for the > enjoyment of a bunch of > tourists. > > The next thing to watch will be whether Montecore is > put down for the > attack. And then we will have a media circus as the > animal rights people > come out to protest S & R and support Montecore. > > -aht Very well expressed. It's tragic all the way round, not least of all for Siefried. One of those google of things in life one would wish away. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 13:17:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h95IHa21014395 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 13:17:36 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F1EBB1E6007F; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 13:15:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6D551E60082 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 13:15:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EE472@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 14:11:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13099004 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 14:11:16 -0400 Received: from web20503.mail.yahoo.com (web20503.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.138]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h95IBFo14937 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 14:11:15 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 11:11:14 PDT Message-ID: <20031005181114.69420.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 11:11:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: shoes To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <39.3eaf01f9.2cb1b40e@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I heard that since the tiger is a member of an > endangered species, > it won't be put down. That never even occurred to me! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 13:53:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h95IrB21014973 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 13:53:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 76E3A1E600EC; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 13:50:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A5F31E600C6 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 13:50:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EE503@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 14:46:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13100400 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 14:46:50 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h95Ikno17894 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 14:46:50 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h95Ikkq0028877 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 13:46:47 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000801c38b72$0ff73e20$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200310051743.h95Hh9o12878@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Subject: Re: Re: shoes Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 13:53:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > The next thing to watch will be whether Montecore is put down for the > attack. And then we will have a media circus as the animal rights people > come out to protest S & R and support Montecore. > > -aht Yup. I saw their show way back in the 60's. It was breathtaking. The thing that impressed me was not the imminent danger of what they did . . . but how on earth they made panthers, lions, tigers disappear right before your eyes when there was nothing near the animal. It's a magic trick, of course, but try as hard as you may you cannot see it. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 14:19:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h95JJt21015440 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 14:19:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 50E341E60085; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 14:17:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15CB01E60082 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 14:17:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EE553@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 15:13:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13101385 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 15:13:34 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f85.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h95JDXo19868 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 15:13:34 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 12:13:28 -0700 Received: from 149.160.22.98 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 19:13:27 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.22.98] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: John Hannum's death Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 15:13:27 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Oct 2003 19:13:28.0192 (UTC) FILETIME=[C1E40800:01C38B74] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ah, now I understand. We were in a cabin on the east side of Meldrum Bay, located at the western end of Manitoulin Island, located in the northern reaches of Lake Ontario. The town of Meldrum Bay, part of the "unorganized township" of Dawson, numbers 40 people when everybody's at home. The town has hydro, a small general store, a dock, an inn that's sometimes open, an out-of-business bed and breakfast, and a laundromat (for yachts stopping at customs as they enter Canadian waters). Manitoulin is on track to become a national dark sky sanctuary. Apart from a red light at the dock and a distant navigation light, the night skies at Meldrum Bay are--on moonless nights, at least--as dark as you can find in any populated region in North America. Which is a good thing: the cottage in which we stayed has no electricity, and I'm too old to enjoy the romance of reading by hurricane lamp and candle--though on cool windswept nights I did enjoy the romance of drinking red wine and single malt scotch by candlelight, then stepping out to watch the glowing belt of the Milky Way. I think I averaged ten hours of sleep a night, double what I usually get. During the day, we did quite a bit of reading, watched the waters banging up against the rocky shores, simmered marinara sauce and lentil soup on the propane stove, grilled meat, drank Sleeman's Honey Brown, and relaxed. I did not fish, though the area is famous for its salmon fishery. If you check a map, you'll see that the waters of Lake Superior drain into Lake Huron through the St. Mary's River, and much of the water enters Lake Huron through the Mississagi Strait, which is right around the corner from Meldrum Bay. Salmon in the thirty pound range are routinely caught in this area, as are trout, whitefish, etc. But this time, I wasn't motivated to fish. On an excursion into town, we noticed a waterfront cottage on a double lot with a "for sale" sign. It's a ninety-three-year old cottage locally known as "The Hole-In-the-Wall." It was formerly occupied by a spinster, who lived there for forty years before dying some ten years ago. A subsequent owner made some upgrades (covering the outside with Manitolin cedar and upgrading the physical plant). A large garage fashioned of what appears to be hand-made wooden trusses also looks out on the water. Unlike our vacation cottage, this place actually has plumbing and electricity (though this is the very end of the grid, and the electric isn't terribly reliable). It faces east rather than west, and thus will offer better sunrises than sunsets, but during the evenings, the moon on the bay should be spectacular. We've made an offer, and hope to close sometime in the next 45 days. If you happen to be in the neighborhood next spring, drop by; Marty >From: Ann Borkin >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: John Hannum's death >Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 16:04:36 -0700 > >On Sat, 4 Oct 2003, Marty Rosen wrote: > > > Um. I feel a bit left out here, as if I don't quite know what you mean; > > >I thought you were in a cabin by a river. Was it a cabin? Was there a >river, or did I make that up? > >Ann _________________________________________________________________ Help protect your PC. Get a FREE computer virus scan online from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 14:46:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h95Jk821015835 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 14:46:08 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9C62E1E600EC; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 14:43:53 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F3CD1E60082 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 14:43:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EE5D8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 15:39:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13102371 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 15:39:47 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h95Jdlo21798 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 15:39:47 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h95Jdi2f016163 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 12:39:44 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h95JdeJC016133; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 12:39:41 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031005124000.00a9fd20@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 12:40:59 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: A second home In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:13 PM 10/5/2003 -0400, Marty Rosen wrote: > It faces east rather than west, and thus will offer better sunrises than >sunsets, but during the evenings, the moon on the bay should be spectacular. > We've made an offer, and hope to close sometime in the next 45 days. If >you happen to be in the neighborhood next spring, drop by; > >Marty This is very exciting! Congratulations. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 15:04:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h95K4721016080 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 15:04:08 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A6B521E60140; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 15:01:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B3591E60108 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 15:01:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EE5F4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 15:57:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13102855 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 15:57:46 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f98.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h95Jvko23069 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 15:57:46 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 12:57:40 -0700 Received: from 149.160.22.98 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 19:57:40 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.22.98] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Interesting Stuff Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 15:57:40 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Oct 2003 19:57:40.0676 (UTC) FILETIME=[EEE4F840:01C38B7A] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Alan Wild My point is that the >FOX-resonant folks are protracting this into a larger Keep-Iraq-Toothless >issue, since they, and I, understand that we are up against new weapons in >this new age of guerilla world warfare. We have to be proactive if we are >to survive, culturally, economically, and socially intact. I believe that. > >'Alan To the faint extent that it's possible to decipher your fractured logic, it appears you're arguing that rabid, uninformed emotionalism makes for good foreign policy decisions, and is justified, because "we are up against new weapons." I think most of us would agree that during the last 250 years the nature of warfare has changed and the use of non-battlefield violence, which is what I assume you mean by "guerilla warfare," has become a more frequent occurence. We can trace that back to the minutemen, at least, and we can see examples in cases like John Brown's raids, Irish terrorism, world war ii resistance fighters, anti-colonial battles throughout the third world, and the like. I think we can even find precursors of suicide bombers if we look hard. That said, I think a lot of reasonable people would agree that at this juncture we do face some problems that are, indeed, different from those we faced during the cold war. It seems to me that emotionalism, stupidity, and blurry thinking are the way emotional, stupid, blurry thinkers respond to those challenges. If you think that being emotional, stupid, and blurry are good problem-solving strategies, then by all means persist in your self-justification, and keep voting for the morons who represent you so very well. Interestingly, when the morons defend "America," what they're really defending, though they barely grasp it, is a set of ideas and values that were shaped by enlightened people who eschewed emotionalism, stupidity, and blurred thinking in favor of rationalism, objectivity, and clear-eyed analysis of the facts at hand. I've come to think that the people who say things like "when the founding fathers conceived of trivial things like the bill of rights, they didn't foresee the threat of Osama bin Laden [insert the threat of the day: global communism, Saddam Hussein, global terrorism, whatever]," are just descendants of the folks who would have been glad to hang the signers of the declaration of independence, who would have preferred living under George to living under a constitution, who fear rather than comprehend the power of reason, intelligence, and debate. The worrisome thing is that after more than 2 centuries, the country is being "defended" by people who don't understand most of what it stands for, and oppose the small parts of the founding principles that they vaguely comprehend. Marty >From: Alan Wild My point is that the >FOX-resonant folks are protracting this into a larger Keep-Iraq-Toothless >issue, since they, and I, understand that we are up against new weapons in >this new age of guerilla world warfare. We have to be proactive if we are >to survive, culturally, economically, and socially intact. I believe that. > >'Alan _________________________________________________________________ Instant message with integrated webcam using MSN Messenger 6.0. Try it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 16:32:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h95LWu21017423 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 16:32:57 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1A5651E60092; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 16:30:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D199A1E6005B for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 16:30:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EE798@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 17:26:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13106939 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:26:35 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h95LQYo32063 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:26:34 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.167.13]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031005212636.WBXM1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:26:36 -0400 Message-ID: <3F808C86.8D41109C@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 16:26:30 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Interesting Stuff References: <20031005160958.51168.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > My husband, whose political positions lie slightly to > the right of Attila the Hun's, regards CNN as > liberally biased. Amazing. Meanwhile, however, the good news is that Spencer is going to be ! I was driving by the Episcopal Church a little while ago and rolled down the window to holler out and ask a friend and her son why they were digging in the dirt. (They were planting something.) I then said, "Was the dog blessing yesterday?" She said, "Today" and held up five fingers. I must have had the Catholics and Episcopalians mixed up. The Catholic one must have been the one yesterday. So Spencer and I will go to the Episcopal Church at 5:00. This is good since I used to sing in that choir, thus making it an appropriate place for the blessing of my beast. I wish I had given Spencer a bath yesterday so he would look his Sunday best. Maybe St. Francis won't mind that he's a bit . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 16:34:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h95LYH21017456 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 16:34:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B380C1E60092; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 16:32:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 791881E6005B for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 16:32:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EE7B8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 17:27:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13106975 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:27:55 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h95LRto32156 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:27:55 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.167.13]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031005212756.WCFJ1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:27:56 -0400 Message-ID: <3F808CD6.C8056A97@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 16:27:50 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: John Hannum's death References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen wrote: > We've made an offer, and hope to close sometime in the next 45 days. If > you happen to be in the neighborhood next spring, drop by; Ooooh. I smell a fest... -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 16:37:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h95LbY21017534 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 16:37:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4F11F1E60092; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 16:35:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CDA01E6005B for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 16:35:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EE7C6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 17:31:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13107108 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:31:12 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h95LVBo32447 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:31:12 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.167.13]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031005213113.WCWN1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:31:13 -0400 Message-ID: <3F808D9B.C551B33@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 16:31:07 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Last Year's Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just found some pictures of last year's blessing. It looks fun: http://resurrectionchurch.com/events_previous/021006_animals.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 17:11:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h95MBc21020812 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:11:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 35F151E60135; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:09:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFB8C1E600DB for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:09:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EE807@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 18:05:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13108049 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:05:16 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h95M5Fo02442 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:05:15 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id E1EEE2B8EE; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 15:05:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3DC52B8EB for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 15:05:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 15:05:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: The phone! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU As I speak, Bill Clinton is leaving a message on our phone. We have already heard from Sharon Davis, Barbra Streisand, and Al Gore. Barbra's was the best - forceful, passionate, clear, paced just right. (I think they speeded up Clinton's artificially, at least I've never heard him talk that fast). Or is it spelled Barbara? I think Barbra's right. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 17:12:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h95MCX21020825 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:12:33 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 484421E600DB; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:10:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D0691E60092 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:10:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0018FAF6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 18:06:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13108078 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:06:11 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h95M6Bo02491 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:06:11 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A6H18-0006M4-Ti for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 18:06:19 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031005134308.03313a78@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 15:07:03 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: shoes In-Reply-To: <20031005181007.26650.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> References: <200310051743.h95Hh9o12878@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber writes, >One of those google of things in life one would wish away. "googol" :) Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 17:15:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h95MFb21020885 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:15:37 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D70661E60135; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:13:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EF421E60092 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:13:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EE810@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 18:09:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13108127 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:09:15 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h95M9Fo02714 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:09:15 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 016B82B8ED; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 15:09:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D87532B8EA for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 15:09:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 15:09:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Marty Rosen's life In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Marty Rosen wrote: > It faces east rather than west, and thus will offer better sunrises than > sunsets, but during the evenings, the moon on the bay should be spectacular. > We've made an offer, and hope to close sometime in the next 45 days. If > you happen to be in the neighborhood next spring, drop by; Sounds idyllic. I don't think I've ever used that word, idyllic. Anyway, it sounds lush in a spartan kind of way. Good luck on your offer and thanks for the description - and the invitation. ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 17:19:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h95MJ121020894 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:19:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 772851E600DB; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:16:45 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 348F61E60092 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:16:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EE837@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 18:12:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13108200 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:12:39 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h95MCdo02966 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:12:39 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h95MCbW1002183 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 15:12:37 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h95MCXWq002156; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 15:12:34 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031005151223.00abdaf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 15:13:51 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: John Hannum's death In-Reply-To: <3F808CD6.C8056A97@maynor.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:27 PM 10/5/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Marty Rosen wrote: > > > We've made an offer, and hope to close sometime in the next 45 days. If > > you happen to be in the neighborhood next spring, drop by; > >Ooooh. I smell a fest... I don't know if he has recovered from the last one! It just happened to be the last one John Hannum attended, too. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 17:19:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h95MJA21020902 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:19:10 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CFD7E1E600DB; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:16:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94B8D1E60092 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:16:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EE828@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 18:12:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13108214 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:12:48 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h95MCmo02994 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:12:48 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h95MCm8b002521 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:12:48 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.102]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h95MCkfC013876 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:12:46 -0400 Message-ID: <009c01c38b8d$ced60d10$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: Interesting Stuff Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:12:46 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Rosen" > The worrisome thing is that after more > than 2 centuries, the country is being "defended" by people who don't > understand most of what it stands for, and oppose the small parts of the > founding principles that they vaguely comprehend. > > Marty Martin... You put it so well... your clear generalizations *are* worrisome, though welcome. 'Glad to see you're finally onboard with the Bill of Rights, of which the 2nd Amendment is such an important part. 'Alan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 17:19:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h95MJq21020913 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:19:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2CCED1E600DB; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:17:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7CB31E60092 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:17:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EE840@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 18:13:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13108269 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:13:30 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h95MDTo03080 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:13:29 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h95MDSW1002811 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 15:13:28 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h95MDPWq002745; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 15:13:26 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031005151417.00ab1220@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 15:14:43 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: The phone! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:05 PM 10/5/2003 -0700, Ann Borkin wrote: >As I speak, Bill Clinton is leaving a message on our phone. We have >already heard from Sharon Davis, Barbra Streisand, and Al Gore. > >Barbra's was the best - forceful, passionate, clear, paced just right. >(I think they speeded up Clinton's artificially, at least I've never heard >him talk that fast). > >Or is it spelled Barbara? I think Barbra's right. I guess you didn't sign up for the do not call list? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 17:20:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h95MK521020925 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:20:05 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 18AD31E600DB; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:17:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D35581E60092 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:17:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0018FB08@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 18:13:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13108273 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:13:37 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h95MDao03085 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:13:36 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A6H8L-000735-BK for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 18:13:45 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031005151052.032a4f40@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 15:14:30 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: The phone! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin writes, >As I speak, Bill Clinton is leaving a message on our phone. We have >already heard from Sharon Davis, Barbra Streisand, and Al Gore. Geeze, I feel slighted. I've only heard from Sharon and Al so far (although there have been some empty calls; maybe the machines didn't work right). Al's pitch had been time-compressed somehow too. And I was surprised to hear in the final "paid for by" announcement that "major funding was provided by Anheuser-Busch". Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 17:24:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h95MOM21020966 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:24:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AF4021E60135; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:22:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E7B51E60092 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:22:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EE835@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 18:18:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13108342 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:18:00 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h95MI0o03288 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:18:00 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h95MHvq0020883 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:17:58 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001001c38b8f$8f0d3ee0$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031005151052.032a4f40@mail.istori.com> Subject: Re: Re: The phone! Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:25:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > >As I speak, Bill Clinton is leaving a message on our phone. We have > >already heard from Sharon Davis, Barbra Streisand, and Al Gore. > > Geeze, I feel slighted. I've only heard from Sharon and Al so far > (although there have been some empty calls; maybe the machines didn't work > right). > > Al's pitch had been time-compressed somehow too. And I was surprised to > hear in the final "paid for by" announcement that "major funding was > provided by Anheuser-Busch". > > Pete Yeah, isn't that just like Al to get all beered up and then start calling up everyone . . - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 17:28:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h95MSh21021044 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:28:43 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9F3EA1E600DB; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:26:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 673AF1E60092 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:26:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EE84B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 18:22:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13108406 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:22:21 -0400 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h95MMLo03506 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:22:21 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.2f.3fbaacbf (25711) for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:22:09 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <2f.3fbaacbf.2cb1f391@aol.com> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:22:09 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] The phone! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/5/2003 5:05:40 PM Central Daylight Time, aborkin@RAHUL.NET writes: << Or is it spelled Barbara? I think Barbra's right. >> For her, it's "Barbra." Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 17:29:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h95MTF21021052 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:29:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E42AA1E600DB; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:26:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAD381E60092 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:26:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018FB21@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 18:22:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13108425 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:22:52 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h95MMqo03539 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:22:52 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h95MMpW1011025 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 15:22:51 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h95MMkWq010950; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 15:22:47 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031005152334.00ab1220@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 15:24:04 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: The phone! In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031005151052.032a4f40@mail.istori.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:14 PM 10/5/2003 -0700, Peter Kaminski wrote: >Ann Borkin writes, > >>As I speak, Bill Clinton is leaving a message on our phone. We have >>already heard from Sharon Davis, Barbra Streisand, and Al Gore. > >Geeze, I feel slighted. I've only heard from Sharon and Al so far >(although there have been some empty calls; maybe the machines didn't work >right). > >Al's pitch had been time-compressed somehow too. And I was surprised to >hear in the final "paid for by" announcement that "major funding was >provided by Anheuser-Busch". Are you certain about the Anheuser part? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 18:03:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h95N3F21021690 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:03:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A2BFD1E600DB; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:00:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 635321E6004E for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:00:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EE87B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 18:56:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13109272 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:56:52 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h95Muqo06084 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:56:52 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.150.246]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031005225653.WSIQ1874.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:56:53 -0400 Message-ID: <3F80A1B0.26302297@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 17:56:48 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: A Blessed Beast Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.maynor.net/Blessing/spencer2.jpg -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 18:06:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h95N6o21021744 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:06:50 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6CB511E60135; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:04:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34C4D1E600DB for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:04:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EE895@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 19:00:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13109393 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:00:28 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h95N0Ro06405 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:00:28 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h95N0QW1008574 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 16:00:26 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h95N0NWq008552; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 16:00:24 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031005160054.00abfcb0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 16:01:40 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: A Blessed Beast In-Reply-To: <3F80A1B0.26302297@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:56 PM 10/5/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >http://www.maynor.net/Blessing/spencer2.jpg Thank goodness. I know I feel better now. It looks as if Spencer is not accepting though. You better do it again. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 18:12:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h95NCZ21021880 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:12:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 18A3B1E600DB; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:10:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D065E1E6004E for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:10:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EE89E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 19:06:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13109517 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:06:13 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h95N6Co06828 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:06:12 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A6HxF-0002iP-LF for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 19:06:22 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031005154516.02ec27c8@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 16:06:59 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: The phone! In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031005152334.00ab1220@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031005151052.032a4f40@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty writes, >Are you certain about the Anheuser part? :) From poking around a little, it seems like A-B is probably an equal opportunity contributor to both Democrats and Republicans. Seems weird to get into the recall fracas, though. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 18:16:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h95NGk21021976 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:16:46 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B15BF1E600DB; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:14:29 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 748D91E6004E for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:14:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EE89A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 19:10:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13109631 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:10:23 -0400 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h95NANo07162 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:10:23 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h95NAJIE028555 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 16:10:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F80A4A2.9050709@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 18:09:22 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The phone! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031005151052.032a4f40@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031005154516.02ec27c8@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > Betty writes, > >> Are you certain about the Anheuser part? > > > :) > > From poking around a little, it seems like A-B is probably an equal > opportunity contributor to both Democrats and Republicans. Seems weird to > get into the recall fracas, though. They normally are, absolutely. Currently, they're causing a hub-bub because they've withdrawn funding from Gov. Holden because he vetoed the carry law (which then passed through an override by the state legislature). -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 18:29:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h95NTr21022217 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:29:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1E37B1E60135; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:27:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7CF61E6004E for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:27:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EE8C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 19:23:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13109871 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:23:31 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h95NNUo08109 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:23:30 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.150.246]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031005232327.CAZR1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:23:27 -0400 Message-ID: <3F80A7EE.80BB706E@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 18:23:26 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: John Hannum's death References: <4.2.2.20031005151223.00abdaf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > >Ooooh. I smell a fest... > > I don't know if he has recovered from the last one! It just happened to be > the last one John Hannum attended, too. I've been thinking about this subject header and whether our light talk is fitting under it, but I decided then that it was ok -- that it is sort of a tribute to John for Words-L to carry on with that subject header. He is chuckling about it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 18:37:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h95NbZ21022355 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:37:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3B4741E6010A; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:35:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1FFB1E6004E for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:35:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EE8C6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 19:31:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13110099 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:31:13 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h95NVCo08770 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:31:12 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.150.246]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031005233109.CDDV1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:31:09 -0400 Message-ID: <3F80A9BC.9C26D8AD@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 18:31:08 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Blessed Beast References: <4.2.2.20031005160054.00abfcb0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > >http://www.maynor.net/Blessing/spencer2.jpg > > Thank goodness. I know I feel better now. It looks as if Spencer is not > accepting though. You better do it again. Actually, that picture is a fake. My batteries died just before Spencer was blessed -- a friend was taking the picture for me and said she wasn't sure that it worked. I looked and saw that the camera had sucked in its snout and was saying "charge batteries." So I quickly pulled the new batteries out of my purse and changed them, since the assistant priestess or whatever she is had volunteered to do it again. I wish the batteries hadn't been dead for the real blessing. He took it all quite seriously and gazed into her face. When the picture was taken, he was saying, "This isn't appropriate. It's a fake picture." Reminded me of the previously frozen fish in Field & Stream. The event was pleasant and meaningful. Mainly dogs were there, plus a few cats and a lizard. Somebody told me that a horse was there a few years ago. It did seem kind of dog-oriented since the final hymn, after the blessings and just before the benediction, was "Dog Breath." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 18:52:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h95NqA21022561 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:52:10 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AF5C71E600C3; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:49:53 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76A191E6004E for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:49:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EE8F5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 19:45:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13110458 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:45:47 -0400 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h95Njlo09899 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:45:47 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.151.24f1ef10 (2519) for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:45:36 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <151.24f1ef10.2cb2071f@aol.com> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:45:35 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] A Blessed Beast To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/5/2003 5:57:09 PM Central Daylight Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: http://www.maynor.net/Blessing/spencer2.jpg He's a cutie! What was he looking at? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 19:17:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h960HB21022911 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:17:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D70F11E60076; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:14:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 962CE1E6000D for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:14:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EE914@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 20:10:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13111007 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 20:10:48 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h960Amo11807 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 20:10:48 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.150.246]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031006001049.UVNC20055.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 20:10:49 -0400 Message-ID: <3F80B303.AF5E95B8@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 19:10:43 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Blessed Beast References: <151.24f1ef10.2cb2071f@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > He's a cutie! What was he looking at? I don't know. Probably a dog. He enjoyed interacting with the other dogs -- and seemed oblivious to the cats and the lizard. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 19:29:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h960Tt21023120 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:29:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 662E31E600C3; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:27:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C7881E60076 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:27:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EE946@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 20:23:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13111219 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 20:23:32 -0400 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h960NVo12868 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 20:23:31 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.67.19de2168 (3948) for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 20:23:22 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <67.19de2168.2cb20ff9@aol.com> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 20:23:21 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] A Blessed Beast To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/5/2003 7:11:05 PM Central Daylight Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: I don't know. Probably a dog. He enjoyed interacting with the other dogs -- and seemed oblivious to the cats and the lizard. Daisy would have been afraid of the dogs, fascinated with the cats, and had the lizard for lunch. We went to Southern Agriculture today, and the clerk said the gentle leader won't work. She said that a pinch collar would work, but that we can't leave it on her during the day; we'd have to put it on her when we take her out and take it off her when we got back in. Daisy goes in and out many times during the day. She likes to dig in the volleyball court and sniff the bushes. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 19:44:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h960ir21023346 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:44:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6CDCC1E600EE; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:42:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 303EE1E600C3 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:42:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EE94E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 20:38:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13111601 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 20:38:30 -0400 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h960cTo14241 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 20:38:29 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h960cSw4022127 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:38:28 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3F80B948.3060402@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 19:37:28 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Blessed Beast References: <67.19de2168.2cb20ff9@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A gentle leader will work. You may NOT put a pinch collar on Daisy until you take an obedience lesson with an instructor who is familiar with them and can show you how to use one properly. Pinch collars are very effective, but they are serious business and can be injurious if you do not know how to use them. Evelyn Duncan wrote: > In a message dated 10/5/2003 7:11:05 PM Central Daylight Time, > natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: > I don't know. Probably a dog. He enjoyed interacting with the other > dogs -- and seemed oblivious to the cats and the lizard. > > > Daisy would have been afraid of the dogs, fascinated with the cats, > and had the lizard for lunch. > > We went to Southern Agriculture today, and the clerk said the > gentle leader won't work. She said that a pinch collar would work, > but that we can't leave it on her during the day; we'd have to put > it on her when we take her out and take it off her when we got > back in. Daisy goes in and out many times during the day. > She likes to dig in the volleyball court and sniff the bushes. > > Evelyn Duncan > brandykitt@aol.com > http://www.thehungersite.com > > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 19:46:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h960kO21023397 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:46:24 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 892721E600EE; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:44:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EF5B1E600C3 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:44:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0018FC65@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 20:40:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13111626 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 20:40:01 -0400 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h960e0o14307 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 20:40:01 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h960dxw4023342 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:39:59 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3F80B9A4.1080202@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 19:39:00 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Blessed Beast References: <3F80A1B0.26302297@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This is a very nice picture. It's a good thing you didn't drive over, because Rich decided to do the blessing next weekend. So we went out on the boat for a fall foliage run. I took many pretty pictures. Natalie Maynor wrote: > http://www.maynor.net/Blessing/spencer2.jpg > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 19:50:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h960ok21023430 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:50:46 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 22D6B1E600C3; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:48:29 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA8B41E60076 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:48:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EE966@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 20:44:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13111716 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 20:44:22 -0400 Received: from imo-m01.mx.aol.com (imo-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.4]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h960iMo14530 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 20:44:22 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.37.3ede0e1f (657) for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 20:43:59 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <37.3ede0e1f.2cb214ce@aol.com> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 20:43:58 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] A Blessed Beast To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/5/2003 7:38:55 PM Central Daylight Time, rouvalis@SWBELL.NET writes: << A gentle leader will work. You may NOT put a pinch collar on Daisy until you take an obedience lesson with an instructor who is familiar with them and can show you how to use one properly. Pinch collars are very effective, but they are serious business and can be injurious if you do not know how to use them. >> I'll go tomorrow to get a gentle leader; we didn't get the pinch collar because it doesn't seem right to use that on her. The clerk gave us several numbers for places that take dogs and adopt them out. I DON'T want to have to do that. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 20:26:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h961QN21024023 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 20:26:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 45B3F1E6012F; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 20:24:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07B231E60128 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 20:24:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EE9AD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 21:19:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13112659 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:19:59 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h961Jxo17510 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:19:59 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A6K2i-000444-VP for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 21:20:09 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031005181815.024b0b38@192.168.1.99> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 18:20:53 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: IMFTATL Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Arthur Miller's play _All My Sons_ revolves around defective airplane parts. I find this in several places on the web: "Arthur Miller, the playwright, found the idea for Joe's crime in a true story, which occurred during the second world war: a manufacturer knowingly shipped out defective parts for tanks. These had suffered mechanical failures which had led to the deaths of many soldiers. The fault was discovered, and the manufacturer convicted." What were the details of the true story? Who was the manufacturer? Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 20:32:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h961WF21024179 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 20:32:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 814C91E600EE; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 20:29:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E3A1E60036 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 20:29:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EE9DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 21:25:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13112811 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:25:52 -0400 Received: from web20506.mail.yahoo.com (web20506.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h961Ppo17874 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:25:51 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 18:25:51 PDT Message-ID: <20031006012551.68497.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:25:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Interesting Stuff To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F808C86.8D41109C@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This is > good since I used to > sing in that choir, thus making it an appropriate > place for the blessing > of my beast. I wish I had given Spencer a bath > yesterday so he would > look his Sunday best. Maybe St. Francis won't mind > that he's a bit > . Well, I don't know how Spencer feels about, but I feel better already. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 20:35:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h961Zl21024271 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 20:35:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 84C831E60128; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 20:33:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4674C1E60036 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 20:33:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EE9C5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 21:29:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13112879 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:29:24 -0400 Received: from web20509.mail.yahoo.com (web20509.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.144]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h961TOo18044 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:29:24 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20509.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 18:29:23 PDT Message-ID: <20031006012923.35129.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:29:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: The phone! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Or is it spelled Barbara? I think Barbra's right. > > Ann Barbra, and she gets a little testy about it. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 20:42:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h961gL21024342 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 20:42:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E81DB1E60036; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 20:40:03 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABFD61E600EE for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 20:40:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0018FCDB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 21:35:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13113023 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:35:57 -0400 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h961Zvo18486 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:35:57 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 18:35:56 PDT Message-ID: <20031006013556.37349.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:35:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: A Blessed Beast To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F80A1B0.26302297@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > http://www.maynor.net/Blessing/spencer2.jpg > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) See? I think he liked it. I KNOW he liked it! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 20:44:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h961iY21024355 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 20:44:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 98CB21E6012F; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 20:42:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CB111E60128 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 20:42:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018FCF4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 21:38:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13113067 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:37:27 -0400 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h961bRo18605 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:37:27 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 18:37:26 PDT Message-ID: <20031006013726.67646.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:37:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: The phone! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031005154516.02ec27c8@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Peter Kaminski wrote: > Betty writes, > > >Are you certain about the Anheuser part? > > :) > > From poking around a little, it seems like A-B is > probably an equal > opportunity contributor to both Democrats and > Republicans. Seems weird to > get into the recall fracas, though. > > Pete And way different branches of the bush. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 20:45:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h961jk21024379 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 20:45:46 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 96E681E60128; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 20:43:29 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C3BA1E600EE for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 20:43:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EE9E7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 21:39:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13113092 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:39:23 -0400 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h961dNo18739 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:39:23 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 18:39:22 PDT Message-ID: <20031006013922.77103.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:39:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: The phone! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F80A4A2.9050709@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > They normally are, absolutely. Currently, > they're causing a > hub-bub because they've withdrawn funding from Gov. > Holden > because he vetoed the carry law (which then passed > through > an override by the state legislature). "Carry law"? Could you expand on this? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 20:57:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h961v221024508 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 20:57:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A989F1E600EE; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 20:54:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C79D1E600BC for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 20:54:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EEA31@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 21:50:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13113576 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:50:38 -0400 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h961oco20219 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:50:38 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h961oZw4000713 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 20:50:36 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3F80CA2B.4050704@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 20:49:31 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The phone! References: <20031006013922.77103.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: >> They normally are, absolutely. Currently, >>they're causing a >>hub-bub because they've withdrawn funding from Gov. >>Holden >>because he vetoed the carry law (which then passed >>through >>an override by the state legislature). >> > > "Carry law"? Could you expand on this? Come on. You work for the police and you don't know what a carry law is? Law to permit civilians to carry a concealed weapon. One may do so legally in Missouri now. I believe it is just an endorsement on your driver's license. Don't know what you need to do to get the endorsement -- probably take the same class you need to take to get a hunting permit. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 21:14:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h962EK21024847 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:14:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 768C01E60128; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:12:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32D9F1E600EE for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:12:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018FD4A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 22:07:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13114186 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 22:07:55 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9627to21975 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 22:07:55 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.150.246]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031006020758.KTBZ1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 22:07:58 -0400 Message-ID: <3F80CE76.46AF932D@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 21:07:50 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Blessed Beast References: <3F80A1B0.26302297@maynor.net> <3F80B9A4.1080202@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > > This is a very nice picture. It's a good thing you didn't > drive over, because Rich decided to do the blessing next > weekend. So we went out on the boat for a fall foliage run. > I took many pretty pictures. Why did Rich decide to postpone it? That seems somehow . But Spencer and I would have simply horned in on your fall foliage boat run and enjoyed it. He would have lived another year unblessed, but he seems to have been just fine during his unblessed years. Are your pictures online? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 21:17:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h962Hg21024924 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:17:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F0BD11E60128; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:15:24 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACA1E1E600EE for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:15:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EEA76@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 22:11:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13114393 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 22:11:18 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h962BIo22509 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 22:11:18 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.150.246]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031006021121.KUQA1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 22:11:21 -0400 Message-ID: <3F80CF41.5478C4C7@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 21:11:13 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: IMFTATL References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031005181815.024b0b38@192.168.1.99> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > What were the details of the true story? Who was the manufacturer? If anybody else had asked this, I might have googled in search of an answer. But when the King of Google asks such a question, googling seems pointless. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 21:21:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h962Lf21024976 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:21:41 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BD76B1E60128; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:19:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D5901E600EE for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:19:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EEA7F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 22:15:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13114505 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 22:15:17 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h962FHo22942 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 22:15:17 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.150.246]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031006021520.KWEC1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 22:15:20 -0400 Message-ID: <3F80D030.A36C702C@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 21:15:12 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Interesting Stuff References: <20031006012551.68497.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Well, I don't know how Spencer feels about, but I feel > better already. He seems pretty happy, but he's in his usual position for this time of the night, snoozing on the couch in this room. That's where he often is when I go to bed, but he's almost always sleeping in the chair in the den when I get up. I hate that he doesn't sleep with me. I don't think he has any idea how much that bothers me. I've told him before that Bernard always slept with me, but I'm hesitant to mention Bernard too often since I know he gets tired of hearing about Bernard. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 21:23:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h962NF21024985 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:23:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 37E081E60131; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:20:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F05111E6012F for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:20:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EEA93@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 22:16:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13114542 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 22:16:52 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h962Gpo23095 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 22:16:51 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.150.246]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031006021654.KWWF1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 22:16:54 -0400 Message-ID: <3F80D08E.74B71199@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 21:16:46 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Blessed Beast References: <20031006013556.37349.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > > http://www.maynor.net/Blessing/spencer2.jpg > > See? I think he liked it. I KNOW he liked it! He did indeed enjoy the outing. No doubt about that. But I still wish I had a picture of him gazing into the eyes of the priestess. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 21:25:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h962Pu21025009 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:25:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0063F1E60131; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:23:39 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAF0A1E6012F for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:23:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EEA76@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 22:19:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13114572 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 22:19:32 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h962JWo23233 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 22:19:32 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.150.246]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031006021935.KXRS1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 22:19:35 -0400 Message-ID: <3F80D12F.422B623C@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 21:19:27 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The phone! References: <20031006013922.77103.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> <3F80CA2B.4050704@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > Come on. You work for the police and you don't know what a > carry law is? Law to permit civilians to carry a concealed > weapon. Maybe that is not allowed in Alabama. I hope it's not. I can't imagine why it would be allowed anywhere, although I do realize that it is. What kind of crazy country do we live in that allows people to walk around carrying concealed weapons? It makes zero sense to me. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 21:26:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h962Qc21025012 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:26:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 06A4E1E60131; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:24:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA9181E6012F for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:24:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EEA97@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 22:20:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13114594 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 22:20:14 -0400 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h962KEo23286 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 22:20:14 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 19:20:13 PDT Message-ID: <20031006022013.47315.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:20:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: The phone! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F80CA2B.4050704@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > "Carry law"? Could you expand on this? > > > Come on. You work for the police and you > don't know what a > carry law is? Law to permit civilians to carry a > concealed > weapon. One may do so legally in Missouri now. I > believe > it is just an endorsement on your driver's license. > Don't > know what you need to do to get the endorsement -- > probably > take the same class you need to take to get a > hunting permit. Here they are merely gun permits. They used to be issued through municipalities, but with the enactment of the Brady Act, that became the province of county sheriffs. There is not driver's license endorsement, and I seriously doubt there is any type of training involved. The application includes permission of the applicant to check state criminal records. There is a toothless clause regarding mental health, or lack thereof, that anyone could circumvent. It is not called a carry law here. In fact, you can carry a handgun without a permit, providing it is in plain view, not concealed. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 21:29:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h962Tp21025052 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:29:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6D1321E60128; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:27:33 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 310A41E600EE for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:27:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EEA8A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 22:23:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13114643 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 22:23:27 -0400 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h962NQo23474 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 22:23:26 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 19:23:26 PDT Message-ID: <20031006022326.79077.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:23:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: IMFTATL To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F80CF41.5478C4C7@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Peter Kaminski wrote: > > > What were the details of the true story? Who was > the manufacturer? > > If anybody else had asked this, I might have googled > in search of an > answer. But when the King of Google asks such a > question, googling > seems pointless. Yeah, Pete, give! I've tried all sorts of combinations without success. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 21:32:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h962WV21025114 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:32:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 028AF1E60128; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:30:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9C3C1E600EE for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:30:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EEA9F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 22:26:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13114697 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 22:26:07 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h962Q7o23610 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 22:26:07 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.150.246]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031006022610.LAHU1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 22:26:10 -0400 Message-ID: <3F80D2BA.910F64CF@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 21:26:02 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The phone! References: <20031006022013.47315.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > It is not called a carry law here. In fact, you can > carry a handgun without a permit, providing it is in > plain view, not concealed. Oh, goody. I should get me a and saunter around in Alabama carrying it. NB: This is not casting asparagus on Alabama. Whatever their gun laws are, I'm sure that Mississippi's are at least as . I must admit that I don't know what the gun laws are in my state. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 21:33:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h962XM21025118 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:33:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6CB3E1E60128; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:31:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FC5E1E600EE for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:31:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0018FD88@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 22:26:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13114725 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 22:26:58 -0400 Received: from web20509.mail.yahoo.com (web20509.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.144]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h962Qvo23684 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 22:26:57 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20509.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 19:26:57 PDT Message-ID: <20031006022657.49198.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:26:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Interesting Stuff To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F80D030.A36C702C@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > He seems pretty happy, but he's in his usual > position for this time of > the night, snoozing on the couch in this room. > That's where he often is > when I go to bed, but he's almost always sleeping in > the chair in the > den when I get up. I hate that he doesn't sleep > with me. I don't think > he has any idea how much that bothers me. I've told > him before that > Bernard always slept with me, but I'm hesitant to > mention Bernard too > often since I know he gets tired of hearing about > Bernard. Tact cannot be over-emphasized in the canine/human world. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 22:34:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h963YA21025983 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 22:34:10 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 71B641E60142; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 22:31:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 355471E6013C for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 22:31:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EED5D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 23:27:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13120913 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 23:27:46 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h963Rko30672 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 23:27:46 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A6M2N-0005LD-Ni for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 23:27:56 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031005202051.02e12e80@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 20:28:38 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: IMFTATL In-Reply-To: <20031006022326.79077.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> References: <3F80CF41.5478C4C7@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber writes, >Yeah, Pete, give! I've tried all sorts of combinations without success. Like Natalie says, if it were in Google I wouldn't be asking. :) Here's another clue: "... based on a real life event. A young woman in Ohio turned her father in to the authorities when she discovered that he had defrauded the Government." Life imitates art in 2001 in the war in Afghanistan: a company allegedly shipped perhaps millions of batteries that went into the US smart weapons, which may have caused those weapons to miss enemy targets and kill three US soldiers in a friendly fire accident: . Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 22:36:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h963ai21026024 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 22:36:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 341511E60142; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 22:34:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE8C61E6013C for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 22:34:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EED74@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Oct 2003 23:30:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13121005 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 23:30:19 -0400 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h963UJo31018 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 23:30:19 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 20:30:18 PDT Message-ID: <20031006033018.37253.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 20:30:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: IMFTATL To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031005202051.02e12e80@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU :) > > Here's another clue: "... based on a real life > event. A young woman in Ohio > turned her father in to the authorities when she > discovered that he had > defrauded the Government." > > Life imitates art in 2001 in the war in Afghanistan: > a company allegedly > shipped perhaps millions of batteries that went into > the US smart weapons, > which may have caused those weapons to miss enemy > targets and kill three US > soldiers in a friendly fire accident: > . > > Pete Thanks! I'm working on it. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 23:48:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h964mJ21027053 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 23:48:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A67C51E60153; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 23:46:00 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 698991E6015E for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 23:46:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EEF69@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 0:41:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13125285 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 00:41:54 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f85.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h964fro05547 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 00:41:53 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:41:48 -0700 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 06 Oct 2003 04:41:47 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Interesting Stuff Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 00:41:47 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Oct 2003 04:41:48.0114 (UTC) FILETIME=[27073320:01C38BC4] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I know it's a stretch, but try not to be too simple and predictable. I'm not suddenly "on board" with the second amendment. I was never "off board" with it. You and your unabashedly stupid NRA pals insist on misreading it. But that's old news. >From: Alan Wild >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Interesting Stuff >Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:12:46 -0400 > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Marty Rosen" > > The worrisome thing is that after more > > than 2 centuries, the country is being "defended" by people who don't > > understand most of what it stands for, and oppose the small parts of the > > founding principles that they vaguely comprehend. > > > > Marty > >Martin... You put it so well... your clear generalizations *are* worrisome, >though welcome. 'Glad to see you're finally onboard with the Bill of >Rights, of which the 2nd Amendment is such an important part. > >'Alan _________________________________________________________________ Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $29.95/month (depending on the local service providers in your area). https://broadband.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 23:51:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h964pF21027081 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 23:51:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F30081E60152; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 23:48:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B76EA1E60153 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 23:48:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00190245@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 0:44:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13125344 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 00:44:50 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f12.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.12]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h964ioo05717 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 00:44:50 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:43:21 -0700 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 06 Oct 2003 04:43:21 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: A Blessed Beast Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 00:43:21 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Oct 2003 04:43:21.0900 (UTC) FILETIME=[5EEDCEC0:01C38BC4] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Oh, this is just too, too, siegfried and roy. >From: Natalie Maynor >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: A Blessed Beast >Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:56:48 -0500 > >http://www.maynor.net/Blessing/spencer2.jpg > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) _________________________________________________________________ Get McAfee virus scanning and cleaning of incoming attachments. Get Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 5 23:52:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h964qT21027103 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 23:52:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A73641E60153; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 23:50:10 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CBA31E6014D for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 23:50:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EEF7B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 0:46:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13125362 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 00:46:04 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f113.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.113]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h964k4o05776 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 00:46:04 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:45:58 -0700 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 06 Oct 2003 04:45:58 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: IMFTATL Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 00:45:58 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Oct 2003 04:45:58.0453 (UTC) FILETIME=[BC3DE650:01C38BC4] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hmm. This should be easy to find. But before doing any research, I'm guessing this will show up somewhere in an I.F. Stone book. >From: Peter Kaminski >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: IMFTATL >Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:20:53 -0700 > >Arthur Miller's play _All My Sons_ revolves around defective airplane >parts. I find this in several places on the web: > >"Arthur Miller, the playwright, found the idea for Joe's crime in a true >story, which occurred during the second world war: a manufacturer knowingly >shipped out defective parts for tanks. These had suffered mechanical >failures which had led to the deaths of many soldiers. The fault was >discovered, and the manufacturer convicted." > >What were the details of the true story? Who was the manufacturer? > >Pete _________________________________________________________________ Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $29.95/month (depending on the local service providers in your area). https://broadband.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 05:53:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96Arx21032034 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 05:53:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 28CD91E60184; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 05:51:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5B3D1E60010 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 05:51:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EF397@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 6:47:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13134614 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 06:47:31 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96AlVo31117 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 06:47:31 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.162.26]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031006104733.LKQQ1810.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 06:47:33 -0400 Message-ID: <3F81483E.A39D6EC0@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 05:47:26 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Arnold Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This editorial is a bit unfair to Californians, imho, implying that they're more likely to vote for an empty-headed narcissist than people elsewhere would be. But his descriptions of Arnold are kind of funny: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/06/opinion/06HERB.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 06:00:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96B0u21032178 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 06:00:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 911141E60184; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 05:58:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5519F1E60010 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 05:58:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001905A5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 6:54:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13134767 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 06:54:14 -0400 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96AsDo31502 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 06:54:13 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h96AsC1R001954 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 03:54:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F81499A.5060002@swbell.net> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 05:53:14 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The phone! References: <20031006022013.47315.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A carry permit is different than a gun permit. Lynne Weber wrote: >>>"Carry law"? Could you expand on this? >>> >> >> Come on. You work for the police and you >>don't know what a >>carry law is? Law to permit civilians to carry a >>concealed >>weapon. One may do so legally in Missouri now. I >>believe >>it is just an endorsement on your driver's license. >>Don't >>know what you need to do to get the endorsement -- >>probably >>take the same class you need to take to get a >>hunting permit. >> > > Here they are merely gun permits. They used to be > issued through municipalities, but with the enactment > of the Brady Act, that became the province of county > sheriffs. There is not driver's license endorsement, > and I seriously doubt there is any type of training > involved. The application includes permission of the > applicant to check state criminal records. There is a > toothless clause regarding mental health, or lack > thereof, that anyone could circumvent. > > It is not called a carry law here. In fact, you can > carry a handgun without a permit, providing it is in > plain view, not concealed. > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 06:02:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96B2h21032196 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 06:02:43 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CAC811E60188; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 06:00:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF9F1E60184 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 06:00:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EF3B1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 6:56:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13134795 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 06:56:16 -0400 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96AuFo31653 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 06:56:15 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h96AuE1R003560 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 03:56:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F814A15.9020804@swbell.net> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 05:55:17 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The phone! References: <20031006013922.77103.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> <3F80CA2B.4050704@swbell.net> <3F80D12F.422B623C@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Rita Chapman wrote: > > >> Come on. You work for the police and you don't know what a >>carry law is? Law to permit civilians to carry a concealed >>weapon. >> > > Maybe that is not allowed in Alabama. I hope it's not. I can't imagine > why it would be allowed anywhere, although I do realize that it is. > What kind of crazy country do we live in that allows people to walk > around carrying concealed weapons? It makes zero sense to me. Massachusetts has a carry law -- I have my carry permit around here somewhere (no longer valid, of course). People go on robbing, raping, and murdering each other with abandon up there, despite the carry law pushers saying criminals will be afraid of regular folks carrying guns (they think criminals *think*, which I find a hoot). -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 06:06:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96B6F21032218 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 06:06:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 265CB1E60184; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 06:03:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE03D1E60039 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 06:03:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EF3D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 6:59:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13134854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 06:59:47 -0400 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96Axlo31932 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 06:59:47 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h96AxhIE026895 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 03:59:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F814AE7.2030205@swbell.net> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 05:58:47 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Blessed Beast References: <3F80A1B0.26302297@maynor.net> <3F80B9A4.1080202@swbell.net> <3F80CE76.46AF932D@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Rita Chapman wrote: > >>This is a very nice picture. It's a good thing you didn't >>drive over, because Rich decided to do the blessing next >>weekend. So we went out on the boat for a fall foliage run. >> I took many pretty pictures. >> > > Why did Rich decide to postpone it? That seems somehow . But > Spencer and I would have simply horned in on your fall foliage boat run > and enjoyed it. He would have lived another year unblessed, but he > seems to have been just fine during his unblessed years. Are your > pictures online? He didn't postpone it -- that's when he originally scheduled it. My error. Rich is never . You'd have been welcome on the ride downriver. We even have a doggie vest that Spencer could have worn. And we did visit Our Lady of the River, so he could have garnered a blessing that way (I think -- I don't know how shrines work). I haven't put the photos online yet, and tonight I have class, so maybe tomorrow or later in the week. Maybe. I'm way too busy again this year. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 06:11:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96BBY21032329 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 06:11:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4B7C41E60188; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 06:09:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 123BF1E60184 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 06:09:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EF3C0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 7:05:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13134934 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 07:05:06 -0400 Received: from imo-r01.mx.aol.com (imo-r01.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.97]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96B56o18758 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 07:05:06 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.36.48baa7f0 (17228) for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 07:04:57 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <36.48baa7f0.2cb2a658@aol.com> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 07:04:56 EDT Subject: Daisy To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mom's going to call the Lab Rescue people today to have them take Daisy and find her a good home. You don't know how sad this makes me. I'm going to miss her. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 06:58:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96BwN21000329 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 06:58:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EBA201E600D8; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 06:56:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF9931E6008C for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 06:56:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EF445@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 7:51:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13136040 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 07:51:55 -0400 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96Bpso24694 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 07:51:55 -0400 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 13:52:16 +0200 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id SBZZWDW5; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 13:52:08 +0200 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031006134215.03c30458@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 13:50:06 +0200 Subject: VSWHTUIG In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030904143507.01fc9c18@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Back on mail, have a deadline for a paper + the editing of a journal issue by the end of the week (actually we now have an extension for a couple of weeks, but still ...) so I won't post much until Saturday or something. OTOH I will have my giffs by then. As usual we spent a couple of dats in Athens, then the luxury feeling of a twin, forwards looking cabin on the ship to Crete with a moon very close to full in front of us, two days in Myrtos (near Ierapetra), then 17 days in a very small place, Kato Zakro where we rented a small flat at the Akrogiali tavern: http://www.cretetravel.com/Hotels/Athena_Coral_Poseidon_Rooms/index.htm Then north and west to a place just outside Chania where some friends of ours are building a house (we stayed in a small flat down at the sea), and then back to Athens where we enjoyed sunrise over the Acropolis, and a few days later in an outdoor cinema Bergmann's Wild Strawberries. It was subtitled in Greek, but we mainly followed the Swedish soundtrack. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 08:12:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96DCw21001262 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 08:12:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D51E31E6003D; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 08:10:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D1141E60024 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 08:10:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EF647@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 9:06:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13140537 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 09:06:29 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h96D6No02931 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 09:06:23 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 06 Oct 2003 09:06:23 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 09:06:14 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Supah News! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h96DCw21001262 When you read about the number of people whose lives have been destroyed by winning these mega-bucks things it may not be such a YaY afterall BrP >>> awild@URI.EDU 10/04/03 05:40PM >>> Some Sgt, home on leave from the Middle East, was out partying. His wife waited up for him, and when he got home she presented him with the news: they won $150 million in some mega-bucks lottery ;-) YES! YES! YES! ;-) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 08:17:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96DHS21001340 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 08:17:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4517A1E6003D; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 08:15:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE551E60024 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 08:15:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EF649@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 9:10:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13140872 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 09:10:59 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96DAxo03687 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 09:10:59 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h96DAx8b015554 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 09:10:59 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h96DAxfC030975 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 09:10:59 -0400 Message-ID: <004601c38c0b$49297b10$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: Interesting Stuff Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 09:10:59 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Rosen" > I know it's a stretch, but try not to be too simple and predictable. I'm > not suddenly "on board" with the second amendment. I was never "off board" > with it. You and your unabashedly stupid NRA pals insist on misreading it. > But that's old news. First bashing our soldiers in uniform, and now reasserting your inability to understand what "shall not be infringed" means? gee, Martin... I mean, I thought that during all this time you've been off-list... that you'd've been doing something besides eating. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 08:18:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96DIA21001354 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 08:18:10 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1496B1E60024; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 08:15:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBEFD1E6003D for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 08:15:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001907CC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 9:01:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13140269 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 09:01:19 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96D1Io02264 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 09:01:19 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h96D1I8b015187 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 09:01:18 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h96D1IfC028957 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 09:01:18 -0400 Message-ID: <003a01c38c09$ee1edc20$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "Wordslurs" Subject: Sean Hannity wins award Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 09:01:17 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Sean Hannity won the prestigious Marconi "Network Syndicated Personality of the Year" award last Thursday night. ... He received the award from the National Association of Broadcasters at its annual radio conference, held this year in Philadelphia." See... I always *knew* he was a worthless bias :-\ It's exposure on that damned FOX News channel that has turned him into the scoundrel he is. 'Alan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 08:48:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96Dm721001843 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 08:48:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 33A5A1E60065; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 08:45:45 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E53651E6004B for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 08:45:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EF75A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 9:41:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13143423 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 09:41:37 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f55.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96DfZo09358 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 09:41:35 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 06:41:29 -0700 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 06 Oct 2003 13:41:29 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Interesting Stuff Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 09:41:29 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Oct 2003 13:41:29.0596 (UTC) FILETIME=[8BE53BC0:01C38C0F] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU When did I "bash our soldiers in uniform," pray tell? Unless they happen to embrace your cartoonish world view (and the ones I know who've been called up for reserve duty are smarter than that), nothing I've written has anything whatsoever to do with our troops. As for your masturbatory sloganeering about the second amendment, find someone else to debate, or spend your time writing ungrammatical misspelled letters to the editor. For someone who apparently devotes a major portion of his intellectual energies to the subject, you have remarkably little to contribute to the debate. >From: Alan Wild >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Interesting Stuff >Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 09:10:59 -0400 > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Marty Rosen" > > I know it's a stretch, but try not to be too simple and predictable. >I'm > > not suddenly "on board" with the second amendment. I was never "off >board" > > with it. You and your unabashedly stupid NRA pals insist on misreading >it. > > But that's old news. > >First bashing our soldiers in uniform, and now reasserting your inability >to >understand what "shall not be infringed" means? gee, Martin... I mean, I >thought that during all this time you've been off-list... that you'd've >been >doing something besides eating. _________________________________________________________________ Instant message with integrated webcam using MSN Messenger 6.0. Try it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 09:06:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96E6c21002177 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 09:06:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 275771E6006F; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 09:04:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDF321E60065 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 09:04:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EF87D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:00:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13145969 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:00:09 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96E09o13521 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:00:09 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h96E098b017671 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:00:09 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h96E08fC009636 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:00:09 -0400 Message-ID: <006c01c38c12$27058900$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: Interesting Stuff Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:00:08 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Rosen" > When did I "bash our soldiers in uniform," pray tell? "... the country is being 'defended' by people who don't understand most of what it stands for, and oppose the small parts of the founding principles that they vaguely comprehend." -Hearty Marty 'Alan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 09:11:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96EBl21002232 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 09:11:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4233A1E60087; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 09:09:25 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05B2D1E60080 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 09:09:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EF8B3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:05:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13146397 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:05:18 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96E5Io14719 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:05:18 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h96E5I8b017855 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:05:18 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h96E5HfC010855 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:05:18 -0400 Message-ID: <007201c38c12$df36db00$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: Supah News! Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:05:17 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Brother Paul, heh heh heh ... ... You wouldn't catch me turning it down. But I have heard stories also, about bankruptcies and families gone to Hell. There was a guy in RI who won multi-millions, has his 3 y/o daughter pick out a house, then he bought a gold course, and all his buddies went there for free... he got caught DWI, and mismanaged a restaurant he tried to recover with... I wonder where he is now. I guess the trick is to hire an accountant/attorney, sit down with the wife and make a plan... and then stick to it. But oh! Look! In that boat-swapper... a submarine for sale! 8-) 'Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 9:06 AM Subject: Re: Supah News! When you read about the number of people whose lives have been destroyed by winning these mega-bucks things it may not be such a YaY afterall BrP >>> awild@URI.EDU 10/04/03 05:40PM >>> Some Sgt, home on leave from the Middle East, was out partying. His wife waited up for him, and when he got home she presented him with the news: they won $150 million in some mega-bucks lottery ;-) YES! YES! YES! ;-) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 09:21:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96ELN21002359 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 09:21:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D34DE1E60080; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 09:19:00 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93DB41E60065 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 09:19:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EF943@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:14:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13147590 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:14:54 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96EEro17219 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:14:54 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h96EEr8b018264 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:14:53 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h96EErfC013208 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:14:53 -0400 Message-ID: <008401c38c14$364aeb60$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <007201c38c12$df36db00$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Supah News! Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:14:53 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU oops... golf course ;-) 'gotta run... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Wild" To: Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 10:05 AM Subject: Re: Supah News! > Brother Paul, heh heh heh ... > > ... You wouldn't catch me turning it down. But I have heard stories also, > about bankruptcies and families gone to Hell. There was a guy in RI who won > multi-millions, has his 3 y/o daughter pick out a house, then he bought a > gold course, and all his buddies went there for free... he got caught DWI, > and mismanaged a restaurant he tried to recover with... I wonder where he > is now. > > I guess the trick is to hire an accountant/attorney, sit down with the wife > and make a plan... and then stick to it. > > But oh! Look! In that boat-swapper... a submarine for sale! 8-) > > 'Alan > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Barfoot" > To: > Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 9:06 AM > Subject: Re: Supah News! > > > When you read about the number of people whose lives have been destroyed by > winning these mega-bucks things it may not be such a YaY afterall > > > BrP > > > > > >>> awild@URI.EDU 10/04/03 05:40PM >>> > Some Sgt, home on leave from the Middle East, was out partying. His wife > waited up for him, and when he got home she presented him with the news: > they won $150 million in some mega-bucks lottery ;-) > > > YES! YES! YES! ;-) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 09:46:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96Ekr21002686 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 09:46:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 481E31E60096; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 09:44:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA8D71E60080 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 09:44:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EFAA2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:40:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13150804 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:40:24 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h96EeO723060 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:40:24 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 06 Oct 2003 10:40:24 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 10:40:16 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Interesting Stuff Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h96Ekr21002686 context please This is only a guess, but I would bet that Marty wasn't talking about "soldiers in uniform" here. My guess is his reference was to those a little higher up in the pecking order. BrP >>> awild@URI.EDU 10/06/03 10:00AM >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Rosen" > When did I "bash our soldiers in uniform," pray tell? "... the country is being 'defended' by people who don't understand most of what it stands for, and oppose the small parts of the founding principles that they vaguely comprehend." -Hearty Marty 'Alan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 10:25:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96FPD21003355 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:25:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 20E491E6008D; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:22:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7BFE1E60089 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:22:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EFBF9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 11:18:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13154162 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 11:18:43 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f41.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96FIh731382 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 11:18:43 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 08:18:37 -0700 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 06 Oct 2003 15:18:34 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Interesting Stuff Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 11:18:34 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Oct 2003 15:18:37.0603 (UTC) FILETIME=[1DA88730:01C38C1D] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Alan Wild >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Interesting Stuff >Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:00:08 -0400 > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Marty Rosen" > > When did I "bash our soldiers in uniform," pray tell? > >"... the country is being 'defended' by people who don't understand most of >what it stands for, and oppose the small parts of the founding principles >that they vaguely comprehend." -Hearty Marty > Context counts, even in your stream of semi-consciousness. Below you'll find the paragraph from which your quote is extracted. You may have heard rumors that a paragraph is a mechanism by which some writers organize their thoughts into coherent form. Thus, for instance, in this paragraph the first sentence could be understood to have more than a random relationship to the last sentence. Moreover this paragraph could be understood to have more than a random relationship to the paragraphs that came before it, and even to your previous posts, none of which had any relationship whatsoever to "troops in uniform." "I've come to think that the people who say things like "when the founding fathers conceived of trivial things like the bill of rights, they didn't foresee the threat of Osama bin Laden [insert the threat of the day: global communism, Saddam Hussein, global terrorism, whatever]," are just descendants of the folks who would have been glad to hang the signers of the declaration of independence, who would have preferred living under George to living under a constitution, who fear rather than comprehend the power of reason, intelligence, and debate. The worrisome thing is that after more than 2 centuries, the country is being "defended" by people who don't understand most of what it stands for, and oppose the small parts of the founding principles that they vaguely comprehend." _________________________________________________________________ Share your photos without swamping your Inbox. Get Hotmail Extra Storage today! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 10:32:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96FWq21003481 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:32:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B0B431E6008D; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:30:29 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 543031E60089 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:30:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EFC50@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 11:26:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13154755 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 11:26:22 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96FQM700441 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 11:26:22 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h96FQJq0014063 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:26:21 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001901c38c1f$3288b240$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3F81483E.A39D6EC0@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Arnold Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:33:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" To: Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 5:47 AM Subject: Arnold > This editorial is a bit unfair to Californians, imho, implying that > they're more likely to vote for an empty-headed narcissist than people > elsewhere would be. But his descriptions of Arnold are kind of funny: > > http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/06/opinion/06HERB.html > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) It's pretty sad that California seems to be a state with lots of politically minded people who love to shoot off their mouths but who among them could not come up with one candidate with the high ideals they espouse. Where is Rob Reiner? Where is Martin Sheen? Barbra? Clooney? Can they not bring influence at home to find a good governor? I agree that Arnold sounds like a pretty weak choice. Betty, Ann, Bookrat . . . whatcha gonna do? And are you in favor of instant driver's licenses and voting privileges for illegals? So many problems, so little time. I feel for California. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 10:35:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96FZY21003530 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:35:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0F3EB1E6008D; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:33:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C22751E60089 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:33:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EFC65@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 11:29:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13155034 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 11:28:56 -0400 Received: from tjl.adcinternal.com (host-216-153-232-27.ind.choiceone.net [216.153.232.27]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96FSt700933 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 11:28:56 -0400 Received: from tjl (flint@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tjl.adcinternal.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h96FSsc14283 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:28:54 -0500 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:28:53 -0500 From: Tom Lee To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sean Hannity wins award Message-Id: <20031006102853.4eb8a172.flint@kiva.net> In-Reply-To: <003a01c38c09$ee1edc20$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> References: <003a01c38c09$ee1edc20$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Organization: Lamplighter Enterprises X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.6 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i586-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 09:01:17 -0400, Alan Wild wrote: > "Sean Hannity won the prestigious Marconi "Network > Syndicated Personality of the Year" award last Thursday > night. What I want to know is how to get my personality syndicated. Is it like Martinizing or Sanforizing? -- Take care, Tom Lee Personalities syndicated in under 1 hour or before the last teardrops fall From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 10:36:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96Fa021003536 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:36:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 10CDC1E60089; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:33:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CEFB1E60088 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:33:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00190E65@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 11:29:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13155132 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 11:29:31 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96FTU701116 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 11:29:30 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h96FTRq0019461 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:29:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <002801c38c1f$a2666440$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031006134215.03c30458@localhost> Subject: Re: VSWHTUIG Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:36:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Back on mail, have a deadline for a paper + the editing of a journal issue by the end of the week (actually we now have an extension for a couple of weeks, but still ...) so I won't post much until Saturday or something. OTOH I will have my giffs by then. > > As usual we spent a couple of dats in Athens, then the luxury feeling of a twin, forwards looking cabin on the ship to Crete with a moon very close to full in front of us, two days in Myrtos (near Ierapetra), then 17 days in a very small place, Kato Zakro where we rented a small flat at the Akrogiali tavern: http://www.cretetravel.com/Hotels/Athena_Coral_Poseidon_Rooms/index.htm > Then north and west to a place just outside Chania where some friends of ours are building a house (we stayed in a small flat down at the sea), and then back to Athens where we enjoyed sunrise over the Acropolis, and a few days later in an outdoor cinema Bergmann's Wild Strawberries. It was subtitled in Greek, but we mainly followed the Swedish soundtrack. > > Espen Stop! Stop! I can't bear to hear any more! Life is earnest . . and you are having too much fun. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 10:45:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96FjO21003632 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:45:24 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B68711E60089; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:43:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60D121E60088 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:43:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009EFCAA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 11:38:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13155899 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 11:38:54 -0400 Received: from web20509.mail.yahoo.com (web20509.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.144]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h96Fcs702915 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 11:38:54 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20509.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 06 Oct 2003 08:38:26 PDT Message-ID: <20031006153826.15323.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 08:38:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Sean Hannity wins award To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031006102853.4eb8a172.flint@kiva.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > What I want to know is how to get my > personality syndicated. Is it like > Martinizing or Sanforizing? > First, you must have it integrated, subjugated, predicated, and fumigated. You may then apply for syndication at FOX, but it is no sure thing. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 10:53:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96FrU21003743 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:53:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E425D1E60096; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:51:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DAF31E6008D for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:51:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009EFD0F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 11:47:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13156564 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 11:47:01 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96Fl0704585 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 11:47:01 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A6XZp-00055T-Gw for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 06 Oct 2003 11:47:14 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031006083649.02dee918@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 08:47:28 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Arnold In-Reply-To: <001901c38c1f$3288b240$facadece@0018079268> References: <3F81483E.A39D6EC0@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland writes, >Where is Rob Reiner? Where is Martin Sheen? Barbra? Clooney? Can they >not bring influence at home to find a good governor? "Good governor" is not necessarily synonymous with "electable governor". There are at least two good candidates, Tom McClintock and Peter Camejo (depending on which way you swing) who have little hope of winning. Conversely, the most electable candidates, Davis and Schwarzenegger, are in the lead because they have big egos and lots of money to spend -- and that's about it. American politics: beauty contests and influence trading. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 10:56:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96FuU21003793 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:56:30 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E03451E6008D; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:54:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 825FA1E60089 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:54:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EFD25@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 11:50:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13156914 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 11:50:01 -0400 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96Fo0705335 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 11:50:00 -0400 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 520635A7 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 11:50:00 -0400 (EDT) From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Daisy Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 11:50:00 -0400 Message-ID: <005801c38c21$802825b0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-reply-to: <36.48baa7f0.2cb2a658@aol.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Evelyn Duncan >Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 7:05 AM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Daisy > > >Mom's going to call the Lab Rescue people today to have >them take Daisy and find her a good home. > >You don't know how sad this makes me. >I'm going to miss her. > >Evelyn Duncan >brandykitt@aol.com >http://www.thehungersite.com > The Evelyn soap opera continues. alec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 11:05:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96G5P21003940 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 11:05:25 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4163C1E60088; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 11:03:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3DF21E6005C for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 11:03:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009EFD95@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 11:58:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13158148 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 11:58:55 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96Fwt708463 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 11:58:55 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h96Fwqq0014878 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:58:53 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000801c38c23$be5fcfc0$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3F81483E.A39D6EC0@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031006083649.02dee918@mail.istori.com> Subject: Re: Re: Arnold Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 11:05:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Doris Markland writes, > > >Where is Rob Reiner? Where is Martin Sheen? Barbra? Clooney? Can they > >not bring influence at home to find a good governor? > > "Good governor" is not necessarily synonymous with "electable > governor". There are at least two good candidates, Tom McClintock and > Peter Camejo (depending on which way you swing) who have little hope of > winning. > > Conversely, the most electable candidates, Davis and Schwarzenegger, are in > the lead because they have big egos and lots of money to spend -- and > that's about it. > > American politics: beauty contests and influence trading. > > Pete Ah, Pete, I forgot to mention you, and yet you respond. Do you think any state would have this same problem, or California more so than others? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 11:40:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96Gex21004503 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 11:40:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 335CA1E60096; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 11:38:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF88A1E60045 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 11:38:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0019108D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 12:34:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13162082 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 12:34:29 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96GYT717029 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 12:34:29 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A6YJl-0000u9-Nv for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 06 Oct 2003 12:34:42 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031006090425.02df47a0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 09:20:48 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Arnold In-Reply-To: <000801c38c23$be5fcfc0$facadece@0018079268> References: <3F81483E.A39D6EC0@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031006083649.02dee918@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland writes, >Do you think any state would have this same problem, or California more so >than others? California has maybe a little extra susceptibility, but I think the rest of the US is pretty much the same way. On my progressive list I recently read a pretty convincing rant from an savvy Independent who blamed the whole fiasco on the California Democratic Party, for letting a marginal candidate get elected in the first place, and then for not being more decisive when the recall bubbled up. He thinks they should have made Davis resign immediately and turn over the reins to Lt. Gov. Bustamante, proactively keeping the governorship Democratic. I have to say the CDP were terribly disorganized when the recall happened. Johanne actually called them up to see what the coordinated Democratic strategy was -- who was going to run, who was going to endorse whom, etc. -- and they literally laughed and said, "Oh, we don't do that sort of thing!" Later, of course, they finally went into reactive mode to do something, but they lost a lot of time sitting on their hands. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 12:33:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96HXD21005330 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 12:33:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3E3641E600E1; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 12:30:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F31711E600D8 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 12:30:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00191225@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 13:26:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13166566 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 13:26:43 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96HQh727718 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 13:26:43 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A6Z8K-0005FG-LV; Mon, 06 Oct 2003 13:26:56 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031006100442.02dfe358@192.168.1.99> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 10:27:35 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Smaller and Smarter Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The Sacramento Bee has a nice human interest story about our CEO and the difference between Silicon Valley in the recent boom and now: . Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 13:01:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96I1R21005723 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 13:01:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 23C421E600E1; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 12:59:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB731E600A0 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 12:59:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00191310@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 13:54:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13168729 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 13:54:57 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h96Hsv701304 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 13:54:57 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 06 Oct 2003 13:54:57 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 13:54:42 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: a very interesting article Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h96I1R21005723 a cow orker turned mo on to this article. I think y'all might like it a lot too WHAT PEOPLE SAID ABOUT BOOKS IN 1498 For the Indiana Library Federation 1998 Annual Conference., Libraries at the Crossroads: Changes, Choices, & Challenges Indiana Convention Center, Indianapolis, 12:30 PM, Mon., April 7, 1998 Also for the MENSA Gulf Coast Regional Gathering, Sun., May 24, 1998 by John H. Lienhard Mechanical Engineering Department University of Houston Houston, TX 77204-4792 see: http://www.uh.edu/engines/indiana.htm BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 13:23:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96INS21005918 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 13:23:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1784B1E600A0; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 13:21:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE4E11E60021 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 13:21:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F0286@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 14:16:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13170609 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 14:16:58 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96IGv705201 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 14:16:57 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h96IGsq0013662 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 13:16:56 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000601c38c37$062ce000$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: a very interesting article Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 13:24:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul: a cow orker turned mo on to this article. I think y'all might like it a lot too Very interesting. Thank you. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 13:36:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96Iaj21006082 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 13:36:45 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 805261E6018C; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 13:34:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 320AB1E6018A for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 13:34:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F0312@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 14:30:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13171870 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 14:30:14 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96IUE708143 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 14:30:14 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h96IUD8b028745 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 14:30:13 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h96IUDfC012983 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 14:30:13 -0400 Message-ID: <00f701c38c37$e1ee0bf0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000601c38c37$062ce000$facadece@0018079268> Subject: Re: Re: a very interesting article Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 14:30:13 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doris Markland" > Paul: > > a cow orker turned mo on to this article. I think y'all might like it a > lot too > > Very interesting. Thank you. > > - D. M. At the onset, it would seem that the enhanced freedom of information and its flow is beneficial, however it opens new opportunity for crime, vice and abuse which may serve to reduce its value considerably, rather than enhance it. 'Alan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 14:00:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96J0o21006339 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 14:00:50 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 904941E600A0; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 13:58:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 396321E6009C for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 13:58:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F03EA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 14:54:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13174095 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 14:54:19 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96IsJ713871 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 14:54:19 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A6aV6-0003AO-Lk for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 06 Oct 2003 14:54:33 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031006115329.026bce30@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 11:55:10 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: a very interesting article In-Reply-To: <00f701c38c37$e1ee0bf0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> References: <000601c38c37$062ce000$facadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alan Wild writes, >At the onset, it would seem that the enhanced freedom of information and its >flow is beneficial, however it opens new opportunity for crime, vice and >abuse which may serve to reduce its value considerably, rather than enhance >it. Sounds like books in 1498. ;-) Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 14:07:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96J7i21006433 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 14:07:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 653FE1E6009C; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 14:05:20 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCD761E600A0 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 14:05:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F0432@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 15:01:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13174736 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 15:01:13 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96J1C715078 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 15:01:12 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h96J1C8b029793 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 15:01:12 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h96J1CfC020725 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 15:01:12 -0400 Message-ID: <010301c38c3c$358cc450$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000601c38c37$062ce000$facadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031006115329.026bce30@mail.istori.com> Subject: Re: Re: a very interesting article Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 15:01:12 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Kaminski" > Alan Wild writes, > > >At the onset, it would seem that the enhanced freedom of information and its > >flow is beneficial, however it opens new opportunity for crime, vice and > >abuse which may serve to reduce its value considerably, rather than enhance > >it. > > Sounds like books in 1498. ;-) > > Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 14:17:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96JHi21006605 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 14:17:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CD40F1E6018C; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 14:15:20 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F8D71E6018E for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 14:15:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001915CA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 15:11:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13175412 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 15:11:13 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f34.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96JBC716399 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 15:11:12 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 12:11:06 -0700 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 06 Oct 2003 19:11:06 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: a very interesting article Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 15:11:06 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Oct 2003 19:11:06.0220 (UTC) FILETIME=[97AE92C0:01C38C3D] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Alan Wild > >At the onset, it would seem that the enhanced freedom of information and >its >flow is beneficial, however it opens new opportunity for crime, vice and >abuse which may serve to reduce its value considerably, rather than enhance >it. Hmmm. I could hardly hope for a more timely confirmation that you and your ilk have little understanding and less sympathy for anything like core American values. Thanks for the assistance. Apart from the freedom to be stupid, watch Fox news, and carry a gun (a right, by the way, that easily be substituted for "enhanced freedom of information" in your proposition), just what is it you like about living in the U.S.? If you don't love our values, why don't you relocate to a place more aligned with your own? That is, to borrow an old phrase, "love it or leave it." _________________________________________________________________ Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $29.95/month (depending on the local service providers in your area). https://broadband.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 14:33:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96JWs21006847 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 14:33:03 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AA47F1E601A3; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 14:30:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 310531E600A0 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 14:30:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F04E8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 15:26:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13176641 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 15:26:22 -0400 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h96JQL719279 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 15:26:21 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 06 Oct 2003 12:26:20 PDT Message-ID: <20031006192620.99717.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 12:26:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Voigtlanders To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU When are they due back? Like to hear WTDIW, and I miss my weekly rave. We haven't heard much from Rashmi, either. You don't suppose the cats heard about Las Vegas, and - nah... __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 14:42:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96JgQ21006956 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 14:42:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D3BFE1E601A3; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 14:40:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD781E60016 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 14:40:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F0540@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 15:35:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13177185 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 15:35:55 -0400 Received: from web20511.mail.yahoo.com (web20511.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.150]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h96JZs721338 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 15:35:54 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20511.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 06 Oct 2003 12:34:36 PDT Message-ID: <20031006193436.75514.qmail@web20511.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 12:34:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: a very interesting article To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Hmmm. I could hardly hope for a more timely > confirmation that you and your > ilk have little understanding and less sympathy for > anything like core > American values. Thanks for the assistance. > > Apart from the freedom to be stupid, watch Fox news, > and carry a gun (a > right, by the way, that easily be substituted for > "enhanced freedom of > information" in your proposition), just what is it > you like about living in > the U.S.? If you don't love our values, why don't > you relocate to a place > more aligned with your own? That is, to borrow an > old phrase, "love it or > leave it." You have missed your calling. Have you ever considered a career in diplomacy? _________________________________________________________________ > Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low > as $29.95/month > (depending on the local service providers in your > area). > https://broadband.msn.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 15:07:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96K7r21007363 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 15:07:54 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7EF951E601CD; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 15:05:29 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 303861E601A3 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 15:05:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F063E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 16:01:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13179654 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 16:01:22 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f41.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96K1M727750 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 16:01:22 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 13:01:16 -0700 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 06 Oct 2003 20:01:15 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: a very interesting article Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 16:01:15 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Oct 2003 20:01:16.0197 (UTC) FILETIME=[99C49D50:01C38C44] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Is this what passes for irony in your parts? >From: Lynne Weber >You have missed your calling. Have you ever >considered a career in diplomacy? > >_________________________________________________________________ > > Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low > > as $29.95/month > > (depending on the local service providers in your > > area). > > https://broadband.msn.com > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search >http://shopping.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________________ Help protect your PC. Get a FREE computer virus scan online from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 16:27:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96LRD21008747 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 16:27:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2B5EB1E600A3; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 16:24:48 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC5FC1E600A5 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 16:24:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F0974@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:20:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13187157 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:20:41 -0400 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h96LKf711225 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:20:41 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 06 Oct 2003 14:17:49 PDT Message-ID: <20031006211749.24878.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 14:17:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: a very interesting article To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Marty Rosen wrote: > Is this what passes for irony in your parts? It really is academic how I answer this, isn't it? I'm sure there is a reply pertinent to these "parts" that will leap to your mind and will find expression in your own jocular, amiable manner. Why not try killing with kindness for a switch? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 16:29:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96LTS21008756 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 16:29:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5E1241E6022A; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 16:27:03 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25A0A1E600A5 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 16:27:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00191A6B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:22:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13187247 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:22:56 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96LMh711454 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:22:43 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h96LMfq0000295 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 16:22:42 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001301c38c50$f8951ce0$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031006193436.75514.qmail@web20511.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: a very interesting article Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 16:29:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Hmmm. I could hardly hope for a more timely > > confirmation that you and your > > ilk have little understanding and less sympathy for > > anything like core > > American values. Thanks for the assistance. > > > > Apart from the freedom to be stupid, watch Fox news, > > and carry a gun (a > > right, by the way, that easily be substituted for > > "enhanced freedom of > > information" in your proposition), just what is it > > you like about living in > > the U.S.? If you don't love our values, why don't > > you relocate to a place > > more aligned with your own? That is, to borrow an > > old phrase, "love it or > > leave it." > > You have missed your calling. Have you ever > considered a career in diplomacy? But first, may I suggest some lessons in reading? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 16:44:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96LiY21008940 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 16:44:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9046D1E60230; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 16:42:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A5081E6022F for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 16:42:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F09E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:38:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13188212 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:38:02 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96Lc2713743 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:38:02 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h96Lbwq0000225 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 16:38:00 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <003701c38c53$1ba24760$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Letter from Iraq Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 16:45:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h96LiY21008940 I can't vouch for this. Someone sent it to me. Snopes doesn't have a record of it. Sounds real to me. - D. M. Letter From Iraq: The Good America Is Doing Military analyst and former Green Beret Lonnie Shoultz forwarded a letter from an American physician in Iraq who operated on the councilor who died from her gunshot wounds last week. "This is a fascinating story and demonstrates how much our money is going to build Iraq - not rebuild it," Shoultz writes. "Saddam Hussein allowed his people to exist in the conditions of the 19th Century while he surrounded himself and his family with opalescence. Read on and see what a difference your money is making in the lives of people who have never known something we take for granted - like a hospital surgical suite. Then there are the other things they are getting for the first time such as sewage treatment, water on tap, electricity, telephones in their homes, schools, books, storm drains to stop flooding and the things you grew up expecting to have outside of your door have not been built in Iraq in the last 35 years. We didn't break them in the war - they just were not ever there." Excerpts from the letter, after a lengthy description of the heroic but doomed effort to save the councilwoman in appalling conditions: Just the same, in spite of everything we have seen and heard about, I have high hopes for the future here. Every so often I get a chance to watch CNN and its continued "reporting" of only the negative comments has turned my stomach. Clearly many in the press have forgotten the age-old adage coined by a famous and very well respected journalist; in essence, he said that journalists were supposed to report the news and not make the news. That implies an honest effort to see and report both sides of the story, something that is sorely lacking, as I see it. I am just one man, but I have heard nothing but happiness expressed by the Iraqis that I have come in contact with. Case in point; I was walking to the CPA late this afternoon with one of the soldiers from the unit, and this gaggle of kids (probably 10 of them) was walking towards us. All of a sudden, one of them broke from the pack and ran over to me. He couldn't have been any more than 10 or 11, and he came up to me and gave me a "high five," which I returned. He then grabbed my hand, kissed it, and said, "I love you, thank you, thank you very much." And the rest of the kids chimed in with their, "thanks to the Americans." Where the hell was CNN for that? Where was CNN when I was eating lunch the other day at the newly opened "Cofe Shoppe" - a local restaurant operating in what used to be a gas station about 500 yards from the CSH - and the locals were coming up to us and thanking us for freeing their beloved Iraq from the hands of the madman Saddam. "No other country could have done this," they said. "We waited for the Americans to come, because no other country cared about us, and no other country could have done this as the Americans did." Where was CNN then? I really doubt that I am the only person that has heard these sentiments, and I would be willing to bet my entire paycheck for my three months here that at least one reporter has heard this exact sort of thinking and has failed to print or broadcast it because it didn't fit that reporter's agenda. Where are the stories of terror that these folks are recounting? How come no one has published the accounts of brutality and killing that are commonly heard here and have been substantiated by investigators? If you want to know what is REALLY going on, you are going to have to ignore what our informative reporters are telling you and start talking to the soldiers and public health workers and CPA employees that are here, working long hours for one reason - because they are helping a nation emerge from its own ashes. And they are seeing thankful people, and they are seeing progress. Nothing this big is going to happen in a couple of months. Patience is the operative word here, as I see it. But then again, what do I know - I am just some dumb soldier surgeon who was actually only here for a few months. ===== From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 17:04:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96M4r21009218 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:04:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 82F3C1E60232; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:02:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FF9E1E60231 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:02:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F0AAA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:58:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13190201 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:58:21 -0400 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96LwL718124 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:58:21 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.50.230edba3 (18251) for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:58:11 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <50.230edba3.2cb33f73@aol.com> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:58:11 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Daisy To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Well, Mom called the three places we were given: the Lab Rescue people take only full-blooded Labs, and the other two places are full. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 17:18:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96MIQ21009400 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:18:26 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 108AF1E600A2; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:16:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D26981E6006B for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:16:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F0AFB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:11:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13191264 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:11:54 -0400 Received: from web20509.mail.yahoo.com (web20509.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.144]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h96MBr720491 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:11:54 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20509.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 06 Oct 2003 14:59:49 PDT Message-ID: <20031006215949.24548.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 14:59:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Daisy To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <50.230edba3.2cb33f73@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > Well, Mom called the three places we were given: > the Lab > Rescue people take only full-blooded Labs, and the > other > two places are full. That's it, then. Tell your mom y'all are stuck with Daisy, then give Daisy a kiss. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 17:18:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96MIZ21009403 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:18:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 45AFF1E60232; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:16:10 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 144491E60231 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:16:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F0B0A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:12:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13191268 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:12:03 -0400 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96MC3720530 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:12:03 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.3f.230f48b6 (18251) for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:11:52 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <3f.230f48b6.2cb342a7@aol.com> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:11:51 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Sean Hannity wins award To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/6/2003 8:01:25 AM Central Daylight Time, awild@URI.EDU writes: See... I always *knew* he was a worthless bias :-\ It's exposure on that damned FOX News channel that has turned him into the scoundrel he is. Trouble is: I love Sean Hannity. And Keith Olbermann on MSNBC. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 17:18:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96MIp21009406 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:18:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BE58B1E60231; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:16:25 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D3131E600A2 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:16:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F0B1B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:12:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13191275 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:12:19 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96MCI720553 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:12:18 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A6daj-0001So-A6 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 06 Oct 2003 18:12:33 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031006145659.026243e0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 15:10:58 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Letter from Iraq In-Reply-To: <003701c38c53$1ba24760$facadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland writes, >Sounds real to me. Sounds entirely believable to me, too. And this: >our money is going to build Iraq - not rebuild it is something I've said here. The published source is perhaps here: . I've seen positive news articles -- here's a good one, at random: . I think we've still got a lot of bad karma to work through, though. There's lots of bad stuff in the way we decided to do it, who we've pissed off and who we've killed to do it, and whose money is paying for it. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 17:20:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96MK021009415 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:20:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C734B1E60231; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:17:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94D911E600A2 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:17:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F0B06@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:13:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13191356 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:13:27 -0400 Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96MDR720703 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:13:27 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1e3.110ec2f8 (18251) for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:13:16 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1e3.110ec2f8.2cb342fc@aol.com> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:13:16 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Daisy To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/6/2003 5:12:02 PM Central Daylight Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: That's it, then. Tell your mom y'all are stuck with Daisy, then give Daisy a kiss. I've been teaching her to catch tortilla chips. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 17:33:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96MX421009574 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:33:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0FCCA1E60231; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:30:39 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF4491E600A2 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:30:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F0B5E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:26:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13192076 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:26:24 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96MQN722239 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:26:24 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.143.103]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031006222626.RDFX1874.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:26:26 -0400 Message-ID: <3F81EC0B.9554C07E@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 17:26:19 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Blessed Beast References: <3F80A1B0.26302297@maynor.net> <3F80B9A4.1080202@swbell.net> <3F80CE76.46AF932D@maynor.net> <3F814AE7.2030205@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > He didn't postpone it -- that's when he originally scheduled > it. My error. Rich is never . You'd have been > welcome on the ride downriver. We even have a doggie vest > that Spencer could have worn. And we did visit Our Lady of > the River, so he could have garnered a blessing that way (I > think -- I don't know how shrines work). That would've been fun! I bet Spencer would've liked that even better than yesterday's blessing. I've been observing him to try to ascertain whether a blessed dogs behaves in a different way from an unblessed dog. All I've noticed so far is that he's been a bit . I think maybe he's feeling uppity about being blessed. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 17:36:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96Man21009603 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:36:49 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D2DDB1E60232; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:34:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CE091E60231 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:34:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F0B80@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:30:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13192226 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:30:17 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96MUG722532 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:30:16 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.143.103]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031006223020.REQV1874.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:30:20 -0400 Message-ID: <3F81ECF4.3C1CD9A3@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 17:30:12 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Daisy References: <36.48baa7f0.2cb2a658@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > > Mom's going to call the Lab Rescue people today to have > them take Daisy and find her a good home. > > You don't know how sad this makes me. > I'm going to miss her. Why is she doing that? And is it really her place to make that decision? Aren't you Daisy's primary provider/care-giver? I am not unaware of the importance of family harmony, of course -- i.e., it would not be good for you to be doing defiant things that would upset your mother. But, otoh, I'm not sure that you should just roll over and say yes to any whim she has without at least a thorough discussion. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 17:38:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96McR21009619 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:38:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B6A551E60233; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:36:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 824681E60232 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:36:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F0B65@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:31:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13192264 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:31:54 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96MVs722603 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:31:54 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.143.103]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031006223157.RFGV1874.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:31:57 -0400 Message-ID: <3F81ED56.D51ACFEE@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 17:31:50 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: VSWHTUIG References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031006134215.03c30458@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen Ore wrote: >Zakro where we rented a small flat at the Akrogiali tavern: http://www.cretetravel.com/Hotels/Athena_Coral_Poseidon_Rooms/index.htm I want to be there right now!! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 17:39:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96MdP21009631 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:39:25 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A88581E600B1; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:36:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 781701E600A2 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:36:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F0B93@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:32:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13192384 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:32:52 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96MWq722843 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:32:52 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.143.103]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031006223256.RFRC1874.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:32:56 -0400 Message-ID: <3F81ED90.FABAEF0B@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 17:32:48 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sean Hannity wins award References: <003a01c38c09$ee1edc20$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dare I ask ... who is Sean Hannity? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 17:42:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96Mg921009663 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:42:09 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 01D721E60232; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:39:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF9411E600B1 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:39:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F0B8C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:35:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13192620 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:35:37 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96MZa723360 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:35:36 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.143.103]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031006223540.RGPL1874.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:35:40 -0400 Message-ID: <3F81EE34.C7B55865@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 17:35:32 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Interesting Stuff References: <004601c38c0b$49297b10$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alan Wild wrote: > First bashing our soldiers in uniform, and now reasserting your inability to ? Marty bashed our soldiers? That must have been when I was on no-mail. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 17:49:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96Mnp21009792 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:49:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F1FC81E60232; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:47:25 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF5381E600B1 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:47:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00191C55@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:43:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13192804 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:43:19 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96MhI724215 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:43:18 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.143.103]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031006224322.RJFD1874.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:43:22 -0400 Message-ID: <3F81F002.7079B63C@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 17:43:14 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Smaller and Smarter References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031006100442.02dfe358@192.168.1.99> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > > The Sacramento Bee has a nice human interest story about our CEO and the > difference between Silicon Valley in the recent boom and now: > . I liked that. I like human interest stories. Speaking of venture capitalists, remember my NexTech mutual fund? It folded. So I guess I'm no longer a venture capitalist. It didn't get all the way down to zero and simply die -- I got a letter from Dreyfus saying something about its turning into something else. I'm kind of sad that I can no longer look with interest at what NexTech was doing. My $10,000 got down to about $1200 but then climbed back up to over $2,000. Watching its come-back was exciting. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 17:51:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96Mpx21009801 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:51:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 940D01E60232; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:49:33 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CDD81E600B1 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:49:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F0B9F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:45:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13192839 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:45:26 -0400 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96MjQ724490 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:45:26 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.5a.22bdef42 (25711) for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:45:10 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <5a.22bdef42.2cb34a76@aol.com> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:45:10 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Sean Hannity wins award To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/6/2003 5:33:19 PM Central Daylight Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: Dare I ask ... who is Sean Hannity? He's the conservative half of Hannity and Colmes on FOX News; he also has a radio show. He's intelligent and has a sense of humor. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 17:54:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96Ms821009832 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:54:08 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B83C81E60232; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:51:42 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82E691E600B1 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:51:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F0BA3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:47:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13192887 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:47:35 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96MlZ724826 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:47:35 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h96MlYW1018971 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 15:47:34 -0700 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h96MlXWq018948; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 15:47:33 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031006154338.00a70b00@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 15:45:39 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: VSWHTUIG In-Reply-To: <3F81ED56.D51ACFEE@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031006134215.03c30458@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:31 PM 10/6/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Espen Ore wrote: > > >Zakro where we rented a small flat at the Akrogiali tavern: > http://www.cretetravel.com/Hotels/Athena_Coral_Poseidon_Rooms/index.htm > >I want to be there right now!! Me, too. Wasn't that gorgeous? Have you ever been? I am going to Mexico soon. We are going to start off here http://www.quintadonjose.com/ and then rent a car or drive to here; http://www.villaslomalinda.com/ It will be a lot warmer than Montana was. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 17:56:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96MuB21009856 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:56:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F306E1E600B1; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:53:45 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF7101E600AC for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:53:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F0BE0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:49:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13193443 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:49:39 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96Mnc725358 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:49:38 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.143.103]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031006224942.RLOP1874.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:49:42 -0400 Message-ID: <3F81F17E.3CA674CF@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 17:49:34 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Voigtlanders References: <20031006192620.99717.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > When are they due back? Soon, I think. My sense of time has gotten screwy lately, but I'm pretty sure that they're due back soon. > We haven't heard much from Rashmi, either. You don't > suppose the cats heard about Las Vegas, and - nah... Eek. What are B&C going to do when they walk into their house and find Rashmi's bloody body on the floor and the cats with blood-smeared lips? Maybe they're already back but just aren't up to conveying the news to us. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 17:56:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96Mup21009859 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:56:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 908E31E600B1; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:54:25 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E17E1E600AC for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:54:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F0BE2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:50:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13193462 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:50:18 -0400 Received: from imo-m03.mx.aol.com (imo-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.6]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96MoI725465 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:50:18 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1cd.11ebe1bf (25711) for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:50:06 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1cd.11ebe1bf.2cb34b9e@aol.com> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:50:06 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Daisy To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/6/2003 5:30:20 PM Central Daylight Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: Why is she doing that? And is it really her place to make that decision? Aren't you Daisy's primary provider/care-giver? Mom and I share this apartment and expenses. The apartment is in her name, although I've been placed on the current lease, so, if Mom dies, I won't be thrown out. If only Daisy weren't so big and enthusiastic! Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 17:57:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96Mvw21009875 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:57:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 11FF01E600B1; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:55:33 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD8E31E600AC for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:55:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00191C93@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:51:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13193508 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:51:26 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96MpP725548 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:51:25 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.143.103]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031006225129.RMGG1874.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:51:29 -0400 Message-ID: <3F81F1EA.F38CB688@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 17:51:22 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a very interesting article References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen wrote: > > Is this what passes for irony in your parts? > > >From: Lynne Weber > > >You have missed your calling. Have you ever > >considered a career in diplomacy? It passes for irony in my parts. What is irony in other parts? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 17:58:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96Mwn21009895 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:58:49 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 252151E600B4; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:56:24 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E65721E600B1 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:56:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F0C09@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:52:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13193555 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:52:17 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96MqG725656 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:52:17 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h96MqEq0008893 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:52:15 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <005b01c38c5d$7a78f360$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <003a01c38c09$ee1edc20$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <3F81ED90.FABAEF0B@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Sean Hannity wins award Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:59:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Dare I ask ... who is Sean Hannity? > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) He has, I think, the most perfect head of hair I have ever seen. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 17:58:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96Mwp21009898 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:58:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C40691E600B1; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:56:25 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 908701E600AC for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:56:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F0BEB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:52:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13193559 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:52:19 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96MqI725660 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:52:18 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.143.103]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031006225222.RMPS1874.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:52:22 -0400 Message-ID: <3F81F21E.76C4F620@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 17:52:14 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a very interesting article References: <20031006211749.24878.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Why not try killing with kindness for a switch? Because that wouldn't be our Nipper. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 18:01:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96N1V21009959 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:01:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9D8BF1E600B4; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:59:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64FC41E600B1 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:59:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F0C1A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:54:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13193730 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:54:58 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96Msw725959 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:54:58 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h96Mstq0013140 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:54:56 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <006601c38c5d$dae20ac0$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031006134215.03c30458@localhost> <5.1.1.5.2.20031006154338.00a70b00@uclink.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: Re: VSWHTUIG Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:02:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > At 05:31 PM 10/6/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >Espen Ore wrote: > > > > >Zakro where we rented a small flat at the Akrogiali tavern: > > http://www.cretetravel.com/Hotels/Athena_Coral_Poseidon_Rooms/index.htm > > > >I want to be there right now!! > > Me, too. Wasn't that gorgeous? Have you ever been? I am going to Mexico > soon. We are going to start off here http://www.quintadonjose.com/ and > then rent a car or drive to here; > http://www.villaslomalinda.com/ It will be a lot warmer than Montana was. > > Betty You are quite often on holiday. Are you perhaps Canadian? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 18:08:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96N8421010030 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:08:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4BB711E600B1; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:05:39 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E8D71E600AC for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:05:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F0C22@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:01:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13193991 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:01:32 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f45.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.45]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96N1W726624 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:01:32 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 16:01:26 -0700 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 06 Oct 2003 23:01:26 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: a very interesting article Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 19:01:26 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Oct 2003 23:01:26.0539 (UTC) FILETIME=[C53BE5B0:01C38C5D] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Doris Markland > > > You have missed your calling. Have you ever > > considered a career in diplomacy? >But first, may I suggest some lessons in reading? I eagerly await reading instruction. In the meantime, it occurs to me that in addition to the decidedly unpatriotic principles it espouses, Alan's original point: "At the onset, it would seem that the enhanced freedom of information and its flow is beneficial, however it opens new opportunity for crime, vice and abuse which may serve to reduce its value considerably, rather than enhance it." is simply wrong. Some of the most grandiose crimes and frauds of the last few years (including Enron and the invasion of Iraq) were based not on the free flow of information, but on restricting and distorting the free flow of information. On the more intimate level, abuse, particularly domestic abuse, is nearly always aggravated and abetted by restrictions on the flow of information. One might (and I would) argue that rather than fostering crime, vice, and abuse, the free flow of information is an essential component in any attempt to fight them. _________________________________________________________________ Get MSN 8 Dial-up Internet Service FREE for one month. Limited time offer-- sign up now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 18:09:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96N9Y21010055 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:09:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A2DD11E600B1; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:07:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EF561E600AC for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:07:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F0C4E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:02:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13194208 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:02:51 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f35.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96N2p726959 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:02:51 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 16:02:45 -0700 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 06 Oct 2003 23:02:45 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: a very interesting article Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 19:02:45 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Oct 2003 23:02:45.0975 (UTC) FILETIME=[F494DE70:01C38C5D] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Also, I have no desire to do any killing. >From: Natalie Maynor > >Lynne Weber wrote: > > > Why not try killing with kindness for a switch? > >Because that wouldn't be our Nipper. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) _________________________________________________________________ Instant message with integrated webcam using MSN Messenger 6.0. Try it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 18:14:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96NEc21010174 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:14:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3E96F1E600B4; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:12:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B9BE1E600AC for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:12:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F0C5B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:08:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13194690 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:08:06 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96N86728131 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:08:06 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.143.103]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031006230810.MAJG20055.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:08:10 -0400 Message-ID: <3F81F5D2.D9153670@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 18:08:02 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Letter from Iraq References: <003701c38c53$1ba24760$facadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > I can't vouch for this. Someone sent it to me. > Snopes doesn't have a record of it. Sounds > real to me. It wouldn't occur to me to check Snopes for something like that. It sounds real enough to me. I've read lots of "letters from Iraq" in a variety of places and from a variety of people. Some greatly contradict each other, but then it's not surprising that people in different areas and different situations have different experiences. > Then there are the other things they are getting for the first time such as sewage treatment, water on tap, electricity, telephones in their homes, schools, books, storm drains to stop flooding and the things you grew up expecting to have outside of your door > have not been built in Iraq in the last 35 years. We didn't break them in the war - they just were not ever there." That part, however, would make me question the knowledge of the letter-writer. It's downright stupid. There are no doubt some people in Iraq who have lived without water on tap, electricity, telephones, etc., just as there are in the U.S. (My life is quite different from the lives of certain people in Tunica County, MS, for example.) But the "they just were not ever there" suggests that these amenities were absent in Iraq. Have you never known any Iraqis? The ones I've known have lived lives very much like ours in respect to water, electricity, telephones, etc. And some of the "letters from Iraq" I've read from Iraqis in recent months and from former Iraqis back for visits have been full of horror at the *losses* of those things they had before. > Case in point; I was walking to the CPA late this afternoon with one of the soldiers from the unit, and this gaggle of kids (probably 10 of them) was walking towards us. All of a sudden, one of them broke from the pack and ran over to me. He couldn't have been any > more than 10 or 11, and he came up to me and gave me a "high five," which I returned. He then grabbed my hand, kissed it, and said, "I love you, thank you, thank you very much." And the rest of the kids chimed > in with their, "thanks to the Americans." > > Where the hell was CNN for that? And this is also pretty absurd. Even in my very limited tv-viewing I've seen tons of such scenes. Now that I think about it, that letter is sounding more and more bogus. I don't mean that it's an outright lie that would show up on Snopes or anything like that. I just mean that the writer of it seems to be a bit , both with life in Iraq (as in how it was before the war) and with what the media are or aren't reporting. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 18:14:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96NEV21010170 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:14:39 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2EDA01E600B2; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:11:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECFA41E600AC for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:11:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F0C65@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:07:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13194524 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:07:05 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f17.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.17]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96N74727822 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:07:04 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 16:06:59 -0700 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 06 Oct 2003 23:06:58 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: a very interesting article Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 19:06:58 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Oct 2003 23:06:59.0287 (UTC) FILETIME=[8B913670:01C38C5E] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Yes, of course you're right. It doesn't have to pass a quality standard to fit the label. >From: Natalie Maynor > > >From: Lynne Weber > > > > >You have missed your calling. Have you ever > > >considered a career in diplomacy? > >It passes for irony in my parts. What is irony in other parts? > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) _________________________________________________________________ Instant message in style with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 18:14:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96NEq21010189 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:14:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B84631E600B1; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:12:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86D401E600AC for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:12:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00191CFB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:08:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13194709 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:08:19 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96N8J728162 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:08:19 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h96N8Gq0006711 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:08:17 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000401c38c5f$b813e840$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031006145659.026243e0@mail.istori.com> Subject: Re: Re: Letter from Iraq Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:15:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Letter from Iraq > I think we've still got a lot of bad karma to work through, > though. There's lots of bad stuff in the way we decided to do it, who > we've pissed off and who we've killed to do it, and whose money is paying > for it. > > Pete > That may be true. But don't forget to factor in that some of these countries were pissed off because our war interfered with some of their own agendas which were making them megabucks. Not necessarily idealistic motives in some of their complaints. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 18:15:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96NFV21010220 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:15:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 824FA1E600B4; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:13:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 512FB1E600AC for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:13:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F0C60@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:08:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13194747 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:08:58 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96N8w728242 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:08:58 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.143.103]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031006230902.MATY20055.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:09:02 -0400 Message-ID: <3F81F606.7AF0A8F0@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 18:08:54 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Daisy References: <50.230edba3.2cb33f73@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > > Well, Mom called the three places we were given: the Lab > Rescue people take only full-blooded Labs, and the other > two places are full. Excellent. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 18:16:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96NGT21010240 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:16:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1A8F41E600B1; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:14:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAF471E600AC for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:14:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00191D19@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:09:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13194798 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:09:52 -0400 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96N9n728350 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:09:49 -0400 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h96N9isV2367496 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:09:44 -0500 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:09:44 -0500 (CDT) From: poor old johnny ray X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a very interesting article In-Reply-To: <3F81F1EA.F38CB688@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3F81F1EA.F38CB688@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.0.4.77969 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > It passes for irony in my parts. What is irony in other parts? Alanis Morisette, among others, has her own definition. -- a colored queen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 18:22:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96NLw21010361 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:21:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 46CC61E600B1; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:19:33 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10CCF1E600AC for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:19:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F0C8D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:15:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13195062 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:15:26 -0400 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96NFE729008 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:15:14 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1cb.12029c42 (2612) for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:14:54 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1cb.12029c42.2cb3516e@aol.com> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:14:54 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Daisy To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/6/2003 6:09:20 PM Central Daylight Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << Evelyn Duncan wrote: > > Well, Mom called the three places we were given: the Lab > Rescue people take only full-blooded Labs, and the other > two places are full. Excellent. >> If there's a place elsewhere for Daisy, it will come to our notice. Until then, she's ours. I gotta get skateboard padding; my elbow still hurts from the fall. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 18:24:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96NOF21010412 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:24:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5E7061E600B1; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:21:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 285681E600AC for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:21:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F0C99@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:17:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13195272 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:17:42 -0400 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96NHg729381 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:17:42 -0400 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h96NHbsV7946484 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:17:37 -0500 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:17:37 -0500 (CDT) From: poor old johnny ray X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Attn: Marty In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.0.4.77969 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ...and any other risotto makers. What pan do you use? I've used my copper saucepan before; tonight I'm trying my cast iron dutch oven. My previous results haven't been bad, but not, well, . I assume it's more the learning-risotto curve than the choice of equipment that's holding me back, but do you have a special pan you use for it? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 18:37:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96Nb021010699 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:37:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 088631E600B4; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:34:35 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA1A51E600B2 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:34:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F0CE7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:30:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13195785 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:30:28 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96NUS730747 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:30:28 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A6eoM-0008MC-O0 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 06 Oct 2003 19:30:43 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031006161951.02ff0d60@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 16:31:14 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Letter from Iraq In-Reply-To: <000401c38c5f$b813e840$facadece@0018079268> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031006145659.026243e0@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland writes, >Not necessarily idealistic motives in some of their complaints. This might fly except that due to our total disregard for the UN and for international diplomacy in starting the war, we gave them legitimate reasons to complain. And then of course after the war, the US digs in its heels and turns over tens of billions of windfall dollars in reconstruction contracts to a few sweetheart companies, nullifying any moral superiority we had over countries with their own megabuck agendas. Sorry to be angry, Doris -- it's at the folks in Washington, not you. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 18:47:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h96Nlv21010844 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:47:57 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A9F951E60234; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:45:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 683C21E60232 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:45:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F0CFC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:41:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13196322 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:41:24 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h96NfO731974 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:41:24 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h96NfLq0029415 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:41:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000801c38c64$56ce8860$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031006145659.026243e0@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031006161951.02ff0d60@mail.istori.com> Subject: Re: Re: Letter from Iraq Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:48:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Doris Markland writes, > > >Not necessarily idealistic motives in some of their complaints. > > This might fly except that due to our total disregard for the UN and for > international diplomacy in starting the war, we gave them legitimate > reasons to complain. > > And then of course after the war, the US digs in its heels and turns over > tens of billions of windfall dollars in reconstruction contracts to a few > sweetheart companies, nullifying any moral superiority we had over > countries with their own megabuck agendas. > > Sorry to be angry, Doris -- it's at the folks in Washington, not you. > > Pete I understand. But I still think you need to widen your reading sources, although I have not a recommendation. And, Peter, what companies would you recommend the contracts be given to? If we're going to clean things up we have to call on the companies that do that. There aren't a lot of them. I'm not hearing complaints from companies that were prepared but not chosen. But then again, I need to widen my reading sources. ;-). - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 19:14:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h970ER21011199 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:14:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 27AF41E600B4; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:12:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF6251E600B3 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:12:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F0D8B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:07:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13197717 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:07:54 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9707r702526 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:07:53 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9707q2f029532 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:07:52 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9707pJC029496; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:07:51 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031006170827.00adb160@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 17:09:13 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: VSWHTUIG In-Reply-To: <006601c38c5d$dae20ac0$facadece@0018079268> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031006134215.03c30458@localhost> <5.1.1.5.2.20031006154338.00a70b00@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:02 PM 10/6/2003 -0500, Doris Markland wrote: > > At 05:31 PM 10/6/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >Espen Ore wrote: > > > > > > >Zakro where we rented a small flat at the Akrogiali tavern: > > > >http://www.cretetravel.com/Hotels/Athena_Coral_Poseidon_Rooms/index.htm > > > > > >I want to be there right now!! > > > > Me, too. Wasn't that gorgeous? Have you ever been? I am going to >Mexico > > soon. We are going to start off here http://www.quintadonjose.com/ >and > > then rent a car or drive to here; > > http://www.villaslomalinda.com/ It will be a lot warmer than >Montana was. > > > > Betty > > >You are quite often on holiday. >Are you perhaps Canadian? . I always say I am while traveling. Hey, my mother was born there. I still have relatives there. :-) Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 19:24:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h970OF21011383 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:24:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CDFD51E600BB; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:21:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 963B31E600B6 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:21:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00191E46@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:17:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13198027 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:17:42 -0400 Received: from tharminc.blockade.com ([216.18.57.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h970Hg703489 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:17:42 -0400 Received: from Spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31) ID MO000027; 6 Oct 03 20:17:26 -0400 Received: from spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31); 6 Oct 03 20:17:12 -0400 Received: from tharminc2 (127.0.0.1) by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31) with ESMTP ID MG000026; 6 Oct 03 20:17:05 -0400 From: "Tony Harminc" To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:17:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Attn: Marty Message-ID: <3F81CDC0.17639.25713E63@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: References: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, October 06, 2003 at 18:17, poor old johnny ray wrote: > ...and any other risotto makers. > > What pan do you use? I've used my copper > saucepan before; tonight I'm trying my > cast iron dutch oven. > > My previous results haven't been bad, but > not, well, . I assume it's more > the learning-risotto curve than the choice > of equipment that's holding me back, but do > you have a special pan you use for it? Simple, hardware-store, teflon-coated aluminum. Wooden spoon, and a sore back after all the stirring. I must confess that it's mostly Barbara with the sore back, though. Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 19:28:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h970Sr21011487 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:28:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 312701E600BB; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:26:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB06C1E600B6 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:26:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F0DCE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:22:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13198256 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:22:20 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h970MJ704021 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:22:19 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h970MHq0015554 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:22:18 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000401c38c6a$0e4c2880$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031006134215.03c30458@localhost> <5.1.1.5.2.20031006154338.00a70b00@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031006170827.00adb160@uclink.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: Re: VSWHTUIG Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:29:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >You are quite often on holiday. > >Are you perhaps Canadian? > . > I always say I am while traveling. Hey, my mother was born there. I still > have relatives there. :-) > > Betty Hmm. I'm psychic. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 19:30:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h970UU21011521 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:30:30 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7CFB81E600BB; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:28:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B3531E600B6 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:28:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F0DDD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:23:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13198398 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:23:57 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f22.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h970Nv704225 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:23:57 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:23:51 -0700 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 00:23:51 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Attn: Marty Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 20:23:51 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Oct 2003 00:23:51.0686 (UTC) FILETIME=[48C57260:01C38C69] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU No, I don't have a special pan for this. If you have copper, I guess you have to be very diligent about stirring constantly, because of the possibility of hot spots. Cast iron sounds like a good idea. I usually use non-stick saucepans for this. A couple of years ago, I bought a Calphalon "professional" non-stick pan that was being sold as a loss leader, and it's been an incredible pan. I have a big all-clad sautee pan that I only use when I absolutely need to make a pan sauce because the calphalon sautee browns things so well (and because generally, I can make do without fond). >From: poor old johnny ray >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Attn: Marty >Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:17:37 -0500 > >...and any other risotto makers. > >What pan do you use? I've used my copper >saucepan before; tonight I'm trying my >cast iron dutch oven. > >My previous results haven't been bad, but >not, well, . I assume it's more >the learning-risotto curve than the choice >of equipment that's holding me back, but do >you have a special pan you use for it? _________________________________________________________________ Instant message with integrated webcam using MSN Messenger 6.0. Try it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 19:34:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h970YB21011594 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:34:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 130B81E600BB; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:31:45 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC9521E600B6 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:31:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F0DDF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:27:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13198595 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:27:38 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f104.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.104]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h970Rb704596 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:27:37 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:27:32 -0700 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 00:27:32 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Letter from Iraq Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 20:27:32 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Oct 2003 00:27:32.0309 (UTC) FILETIME=[CC45D850:01C38C69] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Doris Markland >And, Peter, what companies would you >recommend the contracts be given to? >If we're going to clean things up we have >to call on the companies that do that. >There aren't a lot of them. >I'm not hearing complaints from companies >that were prepared but not chosen. But then >again, I need to widen my reading sources. >;-). The customary way of dealing with this is to send out a request for bids, but that would require Cheney's cronies to compete with other firms. C'mon, you can't seriously believe that there's only one firm that can do these things? Or that the way it was done doesn't smack of the worst kind of profiteering and corruption? _________________________________________________________________ Get MSN 8 Dial-up Internet Service FREE for one month. Limited time offer-- sign up now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 19:35:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h970ZY21011637 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:35:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 00B331E600D1; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:33:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF8861E600C9 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:33:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F0DF4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:29:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13198812 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:29:01 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f8.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h970T0705034 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:29:00 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:28:55 -0700 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 00:28:54 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Attn: Marty Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 20:28:54 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Oct 2003 00:28:55.0202 (UTC) FILETIME=[FDAE5020:01C38C69] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Tony Harminc >Simple, hardware-store, teflon-coated aluminum. Wooden spoon, and a >sore back after all the stirring. I must confess that it's mostly >Barbara with the sore back, though. I definitely agree with this. I've made risotto many times this way. And I generally take a couple of aspirin a half hour before I start. _________________________________________________________________ Instant message with integrated webcam using MSN Messenger 6.0. Try it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 19:37:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h970bP21011692 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:37:25 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 013791E600C1; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:34:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFA981E600C0 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:34:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F0DF9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:30:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13198880 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:30:52 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h970Uq705253 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:30:52 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00191E93@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:30:51 -0400 Message-Id: <200310070030.h970Uq705253@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:30:51 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Smaller and Smarter To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:27:35 -0700, Peter Kaminski wrote: >The Sacramento Bee has a nice human interest story about our CEO and the >difference between Silicon Valley in the recent boom and now: >. > >Pete I am fascinated by this phrase: 'said Chuck Erickson, director of a business incubator in San Jose. "But I don't know if this is all of us drinking our own Kool-Aid... "' clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 19:56:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h970uj21011995 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:56:45 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E82291E600C0; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:54:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1FB11E60074 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:54:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F0E4A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:50:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13199909 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:50:11 -0400 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h970oB707753 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:50:11 -0400 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h970o6sV8921154 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:50:06 -0500 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:50:06 -0500 (CDT) From: poor old johnny ray X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: Marty In-Reply-To: <3F81CDC0.17639.25713E63@localhost> Message-ID: References: <3F81CDC0.17639.25713E63@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.0.4.77969 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 6 Oct 2003, Tony Harminc wrote: > Simple, hardware-store, teflon-coated aluminum. Wooden spoon, and a > sore back after all the stirring. I must confess that it's mostly > Barbara with the sore back, though. Hah! You forget that I live in South Louisiana, where every meal starts with a roux, which demands more attention that even ristotto! Though I'm gell-is that your kitchen pal knows what those knobs are for, apart from the m&c setting. Kidding aside, thanks for the info. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 20:01:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9711I21012115 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:01:18 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 117241E600C1; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:58:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD8F31E60074 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:58:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F0E6D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:54:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13200125 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:54:44 -0400 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h970si708221 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:54:44 -0400 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h970sdsV6430794 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:54:40 -0500 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:54:39 -0500 (CDT) From: poor old johnny ray X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: [PMX:#] Re: Attn: Marty In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.0.4.77969 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty: >Cast iron sounds like a good idea. Well, it turned out better than my previous efforts. That might be the pan, or experience. Thanks for the Calphalon tip. I'll keep my eyes open for those loss-leader deals, being the Cheap Bastard[tm] that I am. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 20:16:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h971Gf21012370 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:16:41 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 559441E600CB; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:14:15 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D4391E600C5 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:14:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F0EC0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:10:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13200882 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:10:08 -0400 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h971A7710221 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:10:07 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9719l7Q026652 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:09:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F82121C.20207@swbell.net> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 20:08:44 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Blessed Beast References: <3F80A1B0.26302297@maynor.net> <3F80B9A4.1080202@swbell.net> <3F80CE76.46AF932D@maynor.net> <3F814AE7.2030205@swbell.net> <3F81EC0B.9554C07E@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Rita Chapman wrote: > > >> He didn't postpone it -- that's when he originally scheduled >>it. My error. Rich is never . You'd have been >>welcome on the ride downriver. We even have a doggie vest >>that Spencer could have worn. And we did visit Our Lady of >>the River, so he could have garnered a blessing that way (I >>think -- I don't know how shrines work). >> > > That would've been fun! I bet Spencer would've liked that even better > than yesterday's blessing. I've been observing him to try to ascertain > whether a blessed dogs behaves in a different way from an unblessed > dog. All I've noticed so far is that he's been a bit . I > think maybe he's feeling uppity about being blessed. Vinnie has been blessed every year of his life, and I can't say it has made any difference in his dementia. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 20:21:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h971L121012443 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:21:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 186C81E600CB; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:18:35 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D64F31E600C5 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:18:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F0EC1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:14:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13201059 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:14:28 -0400 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h971ER710623 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:14:27 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h971E77Q019580 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:14:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F821321.6070202@swbell.net> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 20:13:05 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a very interesting article References: <20031006211749.24878.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty, don't you dare change, darlin'! I'm coming up to By-God-Wherever you bought that cabin just to beat you at poker and drink you under the table. Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Marty Rosen wrote: > >>Is this what passes for irony in your parts? >> > > > It really is academic how I answer this, isn't it? > I'm sure there is a reply pertinent to these "parts" > that will leap to your mind and will find expression > in your own jocular, amiable manner. > > Why not try killing with kindness for a switch? > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 20:25:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h971Pl21012505 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:25:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 377151E600CB; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:23:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04A9B1E600C5 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:23:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F0EDE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:19:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13201214 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:19:14 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h971JD711051 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:19:13 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h971J8q0018805 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:19:09 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000601c38c71$ff5ec5a0$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: Letter from Iraq Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:26:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >From: Doris Markland > > >And, Peter, what companies would you > >recommend the contracts be given to? > >If we're going to clean things up we have > >to call on the companies that do that. > >There aren't a lot of them. > >I'm not hearing complaints from companies > >that were prepared but not chosen. But then > >again, I need to widen my reading sources. > >;-). > > The customary way of dealing with this is to send out a request for bids, > but that would require Cheney's cronies to compete with other firms. C'mon, > you can't seriously believe that there's only one firm that can do these > things? Or that the way it was done doesn't smack of the worst kind of > profiteering and corruption? > Don't have those facts so can't say. Can't say it didn't happen that way, can't say there weren't other options, can't say it was or wasn't the best decision. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 20:28:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h971SE21012559 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:28:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BA8C51E600CE; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:25:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E761E600CB for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:25:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00191F54@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:21:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13201409 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:20:50 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h971Ko711512 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:20:50 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h971Km2f007653 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:20:48 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h971KlJC007600; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:20:47 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031006182140.00a494d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 18:22:09 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: a very interesting article In-Reply-To: <3F821321.6070202@swbell.net> References: <20031006211749.24878.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:13 PM 10/6/2003 -0500, Rita Chapman wrote: > Marty, don't you dare change, darlin'! > > I'm coming up to By-God-Wherever you bought that cabin just >to beat you at poker and drink you under the table. Get in line! I need to brush up on poker though. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 20:28:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h971SJ21012562 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:28:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EC6241E600CB; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:25:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAE261E600C4 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:25:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F0EE1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:21:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13201422 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:21:45 -0400 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h971Kr711519 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:20:53 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h971Kpw4011492 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:20:52 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3F8214A1.7050701@swbell.net> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 20:19:29 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: VSWHTUIG References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031006134215.03c30458@localhost> <3F81ED56.D51ACFEE@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I want a Poseidon Room Natalie Maynor wrote: > Espen Ore wrote: > > >>Zakro where we rented a small flat at the Akrogiali tavern: http://www.cretetravel.com/Hotels/Athena_Coral_Poseidon_Rooms/index.htm >> > > I want to be there right now!! > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 20:37:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h971b021012799 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:37:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 489031E60232; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:34:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E1DE1E600D3 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:34:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F0F2A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:30:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13201947 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:30:27 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h971UQ712645 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:30:26 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.143.103]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031007013031.ORCO20055.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:30:31 -0400 Message-ID: <3F82172E.8A9C068@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 20:30:22 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: VSWHTUIG References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031006134215.03c30458@localhost> <5.1.1.5.2.20031006154338.00a70b00@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > > >Zakro where we rented a small flat at the Akrogiali tavern: > > http://www.cretetravel.com/Hotels/Athena_Coral_Poseidon_Rooms/index.htm > > > >I want to be there right now!! > > Me, too. Wasn't that gorgeous? Have you ever been? Have I ever been gorgeous? No. Or I guess no. That picture at www.maynor.net is pretty gorgeous, don't you think? Or did you mean have I ever been to Crete or to that specific place in Crete? Yes to the former, no to the latter. > I am going to Mexico > soon. We are going to start off here http://www.quintadonjose.com/ and > then rent a car or drive to here; > http://www.villaslomalinda.com/ It will be a lot warmer than Montana was. I got something about bad parameters on the first site, but I made it to the second. And I want to go there! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 20:38:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h971cS21012813 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:38:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 10A701E600CC; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:36:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D268C1E600CB for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:36:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F0F33@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:31:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13202042 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:31:55 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h971Vo712770 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:31:50 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.143.103]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031007013155.ORSM20055.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:31:55 -0400 Message-ID: <3F821782.CA03C781@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 20:31:46 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sean Hannity wins award References: <003a01c38c09$ee1edc20$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <3F81ED90.FABAEF0B@maynor.net> <005b01c38c5d$7a78f360$facadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > > Dare I ask ... who is Sean Hannity? > > He has, I think, the most perfect head > of hair I have ever seen. So that is who he is -- a perfect hairball? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 20:41:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h971f421012839 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:41:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4AF501E600CB; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:38:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 156861E600C5 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:38:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00191F98@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:34:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13202158 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:34:31 -0400 Received: from web20513.mail.yahoo.com (web20513.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h971YV712989 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:34:31 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20513.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 06 Oct 2003 18:33:51 PDT Message-ID: <20031007013351.76415.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:33:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Daisy To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1e3.110ec2f8.2cb342fc@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I've been teaching her to catch tortilla chips. Now teach your mom and Sweetie, and you've got yourself an act. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 20:44:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h971il21012908 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:44:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ED46F1E600CB; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:42:20 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB2D51E600CF for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:42:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F0F39@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:38:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13202427 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:38:14 -0400 Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h971cD713616 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:38:13 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.133.260dc847 (16633) for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:37:54 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <133.260dc847.2cb372f1@aol.com> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:37:53 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Daisy To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/6/2003 8:34:48 PM Central Daylight Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: Now teach your mom and Sweetie, and you've got yourself an act. Sweetie wouldn't be interested; she's more private than Daisy. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 20:46:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h971ki21012938 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:46:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DD0E01E600CF; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:44:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A55C61E600CE for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:44:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F0F3D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:40:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13202475 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:40:10 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h971eA713754 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:40:10 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h971e7q0022110 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:40:08 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001f01c38c74$ed44a620$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <003a01c38c09$ee1edc20$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <3F81ED90.FABAEF0B@maynor.net> <005b01c38c5d$7a78f360$facadece@0018079268> <3F821782.CA03C781@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Sean Hannity wins award Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:47:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" To: Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 8:31 PM Subject: Re: Sean Hannity wins award > Doris Markland wrote: > > > > > Dare I ask ... who is Sean Hannity? > > > > He has, I think, the most perfect head > > of hair I have ever seen. > > So that is who he is -- a perfect hairball? > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) How many men approaching middle age can say they have a perfect head of hair? I mean, it so obviously is not a wig, and yet it is so gorgeous. Oh dear, what if it is a wig? No, I don't think so. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 20:47:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h971lA21012945 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:47:10 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1F06E1E600CF; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:44:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E16031E600CE for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:44:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F0F5D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:40:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13202489 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:40:37 -0400 Received: from web20501.mail.yahoo.com (web20501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.136]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h971ea713795 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:40:36 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 06 Oct 2003 18:40:35 PDT Message-ID: <20031007014035.73767.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:40:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Sean Hannity wins award To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <005b01c38c5d$7a78f360$facadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > > Dare I ask ... who is Sean Hannity? > > > > -- > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > He has, I think, the most perfect head > of hair I have ever seen. > > - D. M. Do we know for sure it is all his? Perhaps underneath he is really a skin head. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 20:47:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h971lV21012953 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:47:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B30C71E600D1; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:45:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B83E1E600CC for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:45:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F0F5E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:40:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13202502 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:40:57 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h971ev713822 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:40:57 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.143.103]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031007014102.OVVA20055.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:41:02 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8219A5.24F3C991@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 20:40:53 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a very interesting article References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen wrote: > Some of the most grandiose crimes and frauds of the last > few years (including Enron and the invasion of Iraq) were based not on the > free flow of information, but on restricting and distorting the free flow of > information. On the more intimate level, abuse, particularly domestic > abuse, is nearly always aggravated and abetted by restrictions on the flow > of information. One might (and I would) argue that rather than fostering > crime, vice, and abuse, the free flow of information is an essential > component in any attempt to fight them. And this is one of the things I've found so ironic (if the understanding of irony in my parts is legitimate) about the seeming attitudes of the flag-waving, self-proclaimed in the past year or so. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 20:49:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h971nv21012984 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:49:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 497D61E600CE; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:47:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17EFA1E600CB for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:47:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F0F56@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:43:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13202594 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:43:24 -0400 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h971hM714082 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:43:22 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 06 Oct 2003 18:43:21 PDT Message-ID: <20031007014321.90041.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:43:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: VSWHTUIG To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <006601c38c5d$dae20ac0$facadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > You are quite often on holiday. > Are you perhaps Canadian? > > - D. M. When she is on holiday, that's what she tells folks. She has so stated. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 20:53:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h971r021013033 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:53:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6541A1E600CF; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:50:33 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E2761E600CE for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:50:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F0F6D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:46:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13202814 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:46:26 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h971kQ714663 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:46:26 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h971kNq0001775 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:46:24 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000601c38c75$cd33eb60$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031007014035.73767.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: Sean Hannity wins award Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:53:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > --- Doris Markland wrote: > > > Dare I ask ... who is Sean Hannity? > > > > > > -- > > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > > > He has, I think, the most perfect head > > of hair I have ever seen. > > > > - D. M. > > Do we know for sure it is all his? Perhaps underneath > he is really a skin head. Well, it moves when he furrows his brow and the like. I saw a man on TV this week who had a lot of facial expression, and yet his hair never moved. It was a dead giveaway. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 20:58:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h971wd21013131 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:58:39 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5FDD11E60055; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:56:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DB131E60007 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:56:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F0FA1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:52:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13203136 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:52:05 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h971q4715330 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:52:04 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.143.103]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031007015205.TZYB1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:52:05 -0400 Message-ID: <3F821C3D.10FED8F6@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 20:51:57 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Letter from Iraq References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031006145659.026243e0@mail.istori.com> <000401c38c5f$b813e840$facadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > That may be true. But don't forget to factor in > that some of these countries were pissed off > because our war interfered with some of their > own agendas which were making them megabucks. > Not necessarily idealistic motives in some of their > complaints. Of course there are various self-interests involved, but that to me does not excuse the fact that the USA attacked another country for no reason, murdering thousands of innocent people. Oh, that's right -- there were all these weapons of mass destruction that were on the verge of leaping over to our shores and killing us all. Uh huh. Well, why have we not attacked N. Korea yet? I think they are well on their way to perhaps zapping California. But then Arnold will just hold up one of his fat arms and stop their bombs, I guess. Oh, but wait -- it was that Saddam was involved in the planning of 9/11. Why didn't he manage to convince his own countrymen to participate? Why did he have to recruit Saudis? Oh, but wait. He was an evil dictator. I guess he turned into that subsequent to our being his supporter a while back. And why haven't we yet zapped the many other evil dictators? Etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 21:01:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9721S21013216 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:01:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 007D11E60055; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:59:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF0AD1E600BA for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:59:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F0FBC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:54:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13203371 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:54:54 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h971ss715764 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:54:54 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h971sq2f010483 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:54:52 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h971smJC010448; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:54:49 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031006185524.00a2f9a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 18:56:10 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: VSWHTUIG In-Reply-To: <3F82172E.8A9C068@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031006134215.03c30458@localhost> <5.1.1.5.2.20031006154338.00a70b00@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:30 PM 10/6/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty Clark wrote: > > > >Zakro where we rented a small flat at the Akrogiali tavern: > > > http://www.cretetravel.com/Hotels/Athena_Coral_Poseidon_Rooms/index.htm > > > > > >I want to be there right now!! > > > > Me, too. Wasn't that gorgeous? Have you ever been? > >Have I ever been gorgeous? No. Or I guess no. That picture at >www.maynor.net is pretty gorgeous, don't you think? Or did you mean >have I ever been to Crete or to that specific place in Crete? Yes to >the former, no to the latter. You're gorgeous, Natalie! > > I am going to Mexico > > soon. We are going to start off here http://www.quintadonjose.com/ and > > then rent a car or drive to here; > > http://www.villaslomalinda.com/ It will be a lot warmer than Montana > was. > >I got something about bad parameters on the first site, but I made it to >the second. And I want to go there! You must upgrade. It works with IE. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 21:03:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9723U21013255 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:03:30 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CD6D41E60095; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:01:03 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B2291E60055 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:01:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F0FB6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:56:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13203531 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:56:56 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h971uu716222 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:56:56 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.143.103]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031007015657.UCGN1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:56:57 -0400 Message-ID: <3F821D64.771FDA20@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 20:56:52 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Letter from Iraq References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031006145659.026243e0@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031006161951.02ff0d60@mail.istori.com> <000801c38c64$56ce8860$facadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > And, Peter, what companies would you > recommend the contracts be given to? > If we're going to clean things up we have > to call on the companies that do that. > There aren't a lot of them. I don't think that Pete necessarily wants to make the recommendations. I can't speak for him, of course, but I can speak for myself. I'm not into the specifics of these companies who do that kind of work, but I do very much wonder why the contracts were awarded secretly -- why other possible companies were not allowed the chance of applying for the jobs. > I'm not hearing complaints from companies > that were prepared but not chosen. But then > again, I need to widen my reading sources. > ;-). I've read quite a bit about the secret awarding of the contracts. I can't name specific names of companies excluded since that's not the kind of thing my brain takes in and holds, but for sure there have been complaints about the process. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 21:04:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9724M21013258 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:04:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 053A81E60055; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:01:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C80CE1E60095 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:01:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00192011@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:57:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13203549 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:57:49 -0400 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h971vm716310 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:57:48 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h971vlw4019709 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:57:47 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3F821D43.6030201@swbell.net> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 20:56:19 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Letter from Iraq References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031006145659.026243e0@mail.istori.com> <000401c38c5f$b813e840$facadece@0018079268> <3F821C3D.10FED8F6@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: And why haven't we > yet zapped the many other evil dictators? Etc. Patience, Natalie. One Evil Dictator at a time. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 21:06:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9726F21013278 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:06:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 11CFB1E600BA; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:03:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D851E60095 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:03:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F0FAD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:59:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13203610 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:59:42 -0400 Received: from web20512.mail.yahoo.com (web20512.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h971xf716446 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:59:41 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20512.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 06 Oct 2003 18:59:41 PDT Message-ID: <20031007015941.5991.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:59:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Letter from Iraq To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F81F5D2.D9153670@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > That part, however, would make me question the > knowledge of the > letter-writer. It's downright stupid. There are no > doubt some people > in Iraq who have lived without water on tap, > electricity, telephones, > etc., just as there are in the U.S. (My life is > quite different from > the lives of certain people in Tunica County, MS, > for example.) But the > "they just were not ever there" suggests that these > amenities were > absent in Iraq. Have you never known any Iraqis? > The ones I've known > have lived lives very much like ours in respect to > water, electricity, > telephones, etc. And some of the "letters from > Iraq" I've read from > Iraqis in recent months and from former Iraqis back > for visits have been > full of horror at the *losses* of those things they > had before. In this regard, I quite agree. We have two National Guardsmen in service in Iraq. One is in Baghdad. The postcards he sends are of beautiful constructed bridges, brightly decorated touristy boats on the Gulf, sophisticated buildings grouped together. Most folks do not at first understand the photos are from Iraq. Several observed that Luis was safe now he was in San Francisco. They cannot conceive of such a degree of civilization in Iraq. Also, I get very mistrustful when poignant stories concerning children are included. For some reason, I believe that these stories are meant to our mawkish tendencies, and I just can't trust them. I don't see, however, why a good deal of this cannot be true. Propaganda swirls from EVERY direction. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 21:06:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9726b21013282 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:06:37 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1BD021E60095; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:04:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE60E1E60055 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:04:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00192008@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:00:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13203625 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:59:53 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h971xr716479 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:59:53 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.143.103]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031007015954.UDTB1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:59:54 -0400 Message-ID: <3F821E15.DA71FC64@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 20:59:49 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Letter from Iraq References: <000601c38c71$ff5ec5a0$facadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > The customary way of dealing with this is to send out a request for > bids, > > but that would require Cheney's cronies to compete with other firms. > C'mon, > > you can't seriously believe that there's only one firm that can do > these > > things? Or that the way it was done doesn't smack of the worst kind > of > > profiteering and corruption? > > > Don't have those facts so can't say. > Can't say it didn't happen that way, > can't say there weren't other options, > can't say it was or wasn't the best > decision. ????? You can't say it didn't happen that way? Maybe I'm misreading or misintepreting your posting. It has been heavily reported in all the mainstream media (probably not on CNN or FOX) that it did indeed "happen that way." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 21:13:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h972D921013399 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:13:09 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 946681E60095; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:10:42 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 637B91E60055 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:10:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F0FF4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:06:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13204044 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:06:35 -0400 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9726Z717203 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:06:35 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 06 Oct 2003 19:06:34 PDT Message-ID: <20031007020634.30861.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:06:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Attn: Marty To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Hah! You forget that I live in South Louisiana, > where every meal starts with a roux, which demands > more attention that even ristotto! > > Though I'm gell-is that your kitchen pal knows > what those knobs are for, apart from the m&c > setting. > > Kidding aside, thanks for the info. There's only one sure way to makke it come right - Bam!! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 21:22:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h972M121013564 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:22:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4CAAD1E600BA; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:19:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15B3D1E60055 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:19:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F0FFD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:15:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13204319 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:15:27 -0400 Received: from web20511.mail.yahoo.com (web20511.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.150]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h972FR718052 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:15:27 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20511.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 06 Oct 2003 19:13:41 PDT Message-ID: <20031007021341.87953.qmail@web20511.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:13:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Sean Hannity wins award To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <000601c38c75$cd33eb60$facadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Well, it moves when he furrows his brow > and the like. I saw a man on TV this week > who had a lot of facial expression, and yet > his hair never moved. It was a dead giveaway. > - D. M. You are exceedingly observant. That's good enough for me. But poor Colmes has to be seen on the same set. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 21:26:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h972Qr21013637 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:26:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6DE2F1E600D1; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:24:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 382791E600BA for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:24:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F100C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:20:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13204506 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:20:19 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h972KJ718455 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:20:19 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.143.103]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031007022020.ZBB1821.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:20:20 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8222DF.6B7DD553@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 21:20:15 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: VSWHTUIG References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031006134215.03c30458@localhost> <5.1.1.5.2.20031006154338.00a70b00@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031006185524.00a2f9a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > You're gorgeous, Natalie! I'm pretty sure that that was the very picture that won me the title of "most beautiful baby of 1943" at a party in junior high. It was my moment of glory -- not sure now whether I mean "it" the beauty in that 1944 picture or "it" the winning at that party in the '50s. I guess the latter. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 21:28:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h972S621013640 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:28:06 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EA2AF1E600BA; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:25:39 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B34181E60055 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:25:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F1021@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:21:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13204564 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:21:33 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h972LW718582 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:21:32 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.143.103]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031007022133.ZUD1821.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:21:33 -0400 Message-ID: <3F822328.B18F8B8A@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 21:21:28 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Letter from Iraq References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031006145659.026243e0@mail.istori.com> <000401c38c5f$b813e840$facadece@0018079268> <3F821C3D.10FED8F6@maynor.net> <3F821D43.6030201@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > Patience, Natalie. One Evil Dictator at a time. Yeppers. I am seriously worried about this Israel-Syria thing, btw. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 21:32:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h972Wg21013697 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:32:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ACE5C1E600D1; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:30:15 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79AD21E600CF for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:30:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F1032@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:26:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13204991 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:26:08 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h972Q8719443 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:26:08 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.143.103]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031007022609.BCII1821.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:26:09 -0400 Message-ID: <3F82243C.B10785C8@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 21:26:04 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Letter from Iraq References: <20031007015941.5991.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Propaganda swirls from EVERY direction. This is certainly true. But I found it quite bizarre that somebody would be so ignorant as to suggest that there was no electricity, running water, etc. in Iraq before the US attack. USAers are, of course, not known for our knowledge of life in the rest of the world. But there is in fact life in these other places -- and electricity, running water, telephones, television, etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 21:44:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h972ii21013968 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:44:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 279A71E60240; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:42:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E366B1E6023F for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:42:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F104C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:38:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13205408 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:38:10 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h972c9720471 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:38:09 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h972c6q0008669 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:38:08 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001b01c38c7d$06a54180$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031007021341.87953.qmail@web20511.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: Sean Hannity wins award Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:45:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Well, it moves when he furrows his brow > > and the like. I saw a man on TV this week > > who had a lot of facial expression, and yet > > his hair never moved. It was a dead giveaway. > > > - D. M. > > You are exceedingly observant. That's good enough for > me. > > But poor Colmes has to be seen on the same set. Colmes is bright and he's diplomatic. I appreciate his style. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 22:07:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9737f21014556 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:07:41 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 89F651E600CF; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:04:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51EF01E60055 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:04:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F112A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 23:00:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13207381 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 23:00:27 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f71.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9730R723191 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 23:00:27 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:00:21 -0700 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 03:00:21 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Sean Hannity wins award Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 23:00:21 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Oct 2003 03:00:21.0645 (UTC) FILETIME=[259F7BD0:01C38C7F] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > Dare I ask ... who is Sean Hannity? > > > > He has, I think, the most perfect head > > of hair I have ever seen. > >So that is who he is -- a perfect hairball? > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Egads! This is the perfect post; _________________________________________________________________ Help protect your PC. Get a FREE computer virus scan online from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 22:14:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h973Er21014695 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:14:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9B98D1E600D2; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:12:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6343F1E600D1 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:12:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F128D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 23:08:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13210329 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 23:08:18 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9738I725098 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 23:08:18 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A6iDB-0001XH-6H for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 06 Oct 2003 23:08:33 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031006173921.02f0a7b8@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 20:06:26 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Letter from Iraq In-Reply-To: <000801c38c64$56ce8860$facadece@0018079268> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031006145659.026243e0@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031006161951.02ff0d60@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland writes, >And, Peter, what companies would you recommend the contracts be given to? If the goal was as stated, to eject a skunk because the UN wasn't gutsy enough, I should think Bush would march over to the UN and hand Kofi Annan the keys and a six-month we're-getting-out transition timeline. Then the megabucks contracts get competitively bid and executed by any number of large logistics/construction companies around the world who are entirely capable of the projects, and paid for by a broad base of countries, not just US. >If we're going to clean things up we have to call on the companies that do >that. There aren't a lot of them. Does this really make any sense, or is it just propaganda? Do the six companies considered by USAID -- Bechtel, Parsons, Fluor, Louis Berger Group, Washington Group International and Kellogg, Brown & Root -- really fly around the world making and fixing *all* the airports, prisons, electrical generating plants, sewer systems, oil wells, natural gas pipelines, etc. there are? Or is it likely there are other companies from other countries that can do that kind of work too? Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 22:41:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h973f921015275 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:41:09 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5401C1E600D2; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:38:42 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 228DF1E600D1 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:38:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F1377@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 23:34:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13212271 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 23:34:35 -0400 Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com (web20502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h973YY728350 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 23:34:34 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 06 Oct 2003 20:34:34 PDT Message-ID: <20031007033434.4666.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:34:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Letter from Iraq To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031006173921.02f0a7b8@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Or is it likely there are other companies from other > countries that can do > that kind of work too? Are you firm in your belief that there actually is someone, somewhere who knows ALL the answers to all the questions connected with this "action"? I mean, we all chase links we know will lead us to information that will support our positions, and are suitably smug when we find what we know will be there.. We are eager for others to see the light as we do. The folks on all the other sides are doing exactly the same thing. Do you trust the press to tell you truth? Do your trust your congressman, your college professor, the president, your boss, your wife, the church, the Pentagon, your local magistrate? Who is going to tell us the entire truth? And how can we all be right when we can't possibly all be right? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 22:44:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h973iV21015307 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:44:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D4B671E6001B; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:42:03 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DAE01E600D1 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:42:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F1370@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 23:37:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13212374 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 23:37:56 -0400 Received: from web20503.mail.yahoo.com (web20503.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.138]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h973bu728645 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 23:37:56 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 06 Oct 2003 20:37:55 PDT Message-ID: <20031007033755.55950.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:37:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Hint, Hint To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hej, Pete. If were to find out how Mr. Miller heard about the case in Ohio ("All My Sons"), would I be on the right track? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 22:48:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h973mV21015432 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:48:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3748E1E600D2; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:46:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 063201E6001B for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:46:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F139F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 23:41:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13212543 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 23:41:57 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f52.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h973fu729031 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 23:41:56 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:41:51 -0700 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 03:41:51 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Letter from Iraq Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 23:41:51 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Oct 2003 03:41:51.0295 (UTC) FILETIME=[F191ECF0:01C38C84] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Who says we're all right? >From: Lynne Weber >us the entire truth? And how can we all be right when >we can't possibly all be right? > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search >http://shopping.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________________ High-speed Internet access as low as $29.95/month (depending on the local service providers in your area). Click here. https://broadband.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 22:50:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h973oB21015465 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:50:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A1CFF1E600D1; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:47:43 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F4D31E6001B for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:47:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00192465@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 23:43:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13212593 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 23:43:36 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h973ha729278 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 23:43:36 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 2A8792B8EA; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:43:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C6942B8ED for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:43:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:43:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: Where's Sean. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I've been waiting for Sean Penn to call me, but NO. Instead I hear from Joe Lieberman and he's all "serious concerns about allegations." Sean, doll, I'm waiting! Tell me about those rowdy movie sets! Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 22:51:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h973p621015473 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:51:06 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2CB131E600D1; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:48:39 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBFD41E6001B for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:48:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00192466@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 23:44:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13212603 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 23:44:32 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h973iV729358 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 23:44:31 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 358182B8F8; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:44:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BD042B8F1 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:44:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:44:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Letter from Iraq In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 6 Oct 2003, Marty Rosen wrote: > Who says we're all right? Everybody can see we're NOT all right. We're whacked! Anybody can see that. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 23:00:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9740T21015660 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 23:00:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A15F81E600D2; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:58:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C13D1E6001B for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:58:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F13FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 23:53:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13213402 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 23:53:54 -0400 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h973rs730484 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 23:53:54 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 06 Oct 2003 20:53:53 PDT Message-ID: <20031007035353.59519.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:53:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Letter from Iraq To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Marty Rosen wrote: > Who says we're all right? Who among us would say that he/she were wrong? Besides, we're ceratinly not all LEFT. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 23:01:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9741V21015691 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 23:01:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EE4641E600D3; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:59:03 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDA0F1E600D1 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 22:59:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001924C0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 23:54:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13213460 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 23:54:56 -0400 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h973su730623 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 23:54:56 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 06 Oct 2003 20:54:55 PDT Message-ID: <20031007035455.25298.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:54:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Where's Sean. To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Ann Borkin wrote: > I've been waiting for Sean Penn to call me, but NO. > Instead I hear from > Joe Lieberman and he's all "serious concerns about > allegations." > > Sean, doll, I'm waiting! Tell me about those rowdy > movie sets! > > Ann When he calls, and he will, get him to sign you on as an extra linguist. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 6 23:39:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h974dR21016363 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 23:39:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E36731E60234; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 23:36:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A58E51E600DC for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 23:36:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F14CE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 0:32:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13215052 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 00:32:18 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h974Er732447 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 00:14:53 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h974Eoq0029007 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 23:14:51 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000d01c38c8a$8932f720$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031006145659.026243e0@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031006161951.02ff0d60@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031006173921.02f0a7b8@mail.istori.com> Subject: Re: Re: Letter from Iraq Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 23:21:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Or is it likely there are other companies from other countries that can do > that kind of work too? > > Pete Er, I thought the other countries didn't want to be involved over there. Oh, you mean for money they might want to be involved. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 00:07:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9757F21016829 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 00:07:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 21E511E60235; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 00:04:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0FFE1E60234 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 00:04:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00192681@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 1:00:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13218055 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 01:00:29 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9750T704426 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 01:00:29 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F160D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 1:00:29 -0400 Message-Id: <200310070500.h9750T704426@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 01:00:27 -0400 From: "Bonnie M. Voigtlander" Subject: Re: Voigtlanders To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> When are they due back? > >Soon, I think. My sense of time has gotten screwy lately, but I'm >pretty sure that they're due back soon. We have returned. >Eek. What are B&C going to do when they walk into their house and find >Rashmi's bloody body on the floor and the cats with blood-smeared lips? >Maybe they're already back but just aren't up to conveying the news to >us. -- Natalie Not to worry. The cats are all accounted for and Rashmi left notes of thanks -- even flowers and booze. It appears she climbed at least two mountains and had a splendid time while here. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 00:18:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h975I421017225 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 00:18:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 652EF1E60237; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 00:15:35 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E55C1E60235 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 00:15:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F1659@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 1:11:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13219005 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 01:11:28 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h975BS706025 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 01:11:28 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F1667@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 1:11:28 -0400 Message-Id: <200310070511.h975BS706025@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 01:11:28 -0400 From: "Bonnie M. Voigtlander" Subject: Re: Voigtlanders To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >When are they due back? > >Like to hear WTDIW, and I miss my weekly rave. Weekly rave? It seems like what we mostly did was eat and then eat some more. God, can they pack away the groceries in Wisconsin. Just a sec, I'm going to go step on the scale to see how much I gained ... ... Wow, only about two pounds. I would have guessed five or six. I supposed it helps that they don't feed you on planes anymore. Besides eating, the four of us hiked to LaSalle Falls one day. Holly and I took off on a road trip to Bayfield, Wisconsin on Wednesday. We drove through snow. There were about three inches of snow on the ground in Hurley, Wisconsin where we stopped for lunch. Part of our lunch was a Caesar salad for two which would have easily fed six people. Not only that, it was made with iceberg lettuce!! It was indeed cold up there. But last night, during a hot flash, I went out on their deck and saw the stars of the Big Dipper reflected in the calm waters of Loon Lake. Quite nice. A good time was had by all but it is very good to be back home in Maine. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 00:43:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h975hi21017638 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 00:43:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3A5F11E6023A; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 00:41:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02B341E60239 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 00:41:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F16D3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 1:37:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13220223 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 01:37:09 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h975b8709320 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 01:37:08 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A6kXF-0004IZ-Hx for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 01:37:25 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031006223057.030f8278@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 22:37:02 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Letter from Iraq In-Reply-To: <20031007033434.4666.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031006173921.02f0a7b8@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber writes, >Are you firm in your belief that there actually is someone, somewhere who >knows ALL the answers to all the questions connected with this "action"? Never said that. Further, I'm confident that no one person knows the all the answers. That's why democracy was invented. That's why we seek diverse opinions, gather in groups, and vote. Or, at least in a democracy we do. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 00:44:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h975ib21017662 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 00:44:37 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2B3FA1E6023A; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 00:42:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED2641E60237 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 00:42:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F16DB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 1:38:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13220287 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 01:38:02 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h975c1709378 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 01:38:01 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A6kY6-0004Ku-GZ for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 01:38:18 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031006223104.0367e428@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 22:37:20 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Hint, Hint In-Reply-To: <20031007033755.55950.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber writes, >If were to find out how Mr. Miller heard about the >case in Ohio ("All My Sons"), would I be on the right track? Getting warmer, at least. :) Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 00:48:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h975mY21017753 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 00:48:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D26721E6023B; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 00:46:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C3861E6023A for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 00:46:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00192763@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 1:41:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13220413 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 01:41:58 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h975fw709623 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 01:41:58 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A6kbu-0004Uk-VO for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 01:42:15 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031006223115.03296d28@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 22:40:50 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Letter from Iraq In-Reply-To: <000d01c38c8a$8932f720$facadece@0018079268> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031006145659.026243e0@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031006161951.02ff0d60@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031006173921.02f0a7b8@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland writes, >Er, I thought the other countries didn't want to be involved over there. Actually, they *did* want to be involved. POTUS overruled them and did it his way, and is continuing to play the same game. Only history knows if this will be arrogant heroism, or arrogant foolishness. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 05:44:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h97AiT21021856 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 05:44:30 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C88F21E60244; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 05:41:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BFEC1E60025 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 05:41:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00192BEE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 6:37:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13232159 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 06:37:42 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h97Abf701357 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 06:37:41 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.143.160]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031007103741.SBO4570.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 06:37:41 -0400 Message-ID: <3F829770.CD5DD7F3@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 05:37:36 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Letter from Iraq References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031006145659.026243e0@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031006161951.02ff0d60@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031006173921.02f0a7b8@mail.istori.com> <000d01c38c8a$8932f720$facadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > > > > Or is it likely there are other companies from other countries that > can do > > that kind of work too? > > > > Pete > > Er, I thought the other countries didn't > want to be involved over there. > Oh, you mean for money they might > want to be involved. Depends on what you mean by "involved." It's Dubya who hasn't wanted other countries involved in most ways. He has . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 05:44:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h97Aiq21021861 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 05:44:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9B6E61E60246; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 05:42:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68FC21E60025 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 05:42:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F1BDB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 6:38:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13232167 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 06:38:15 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h97AcF701395 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 06:38:15 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.143.160]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031007103815.SED4570.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 06:38:15 -0400 Message-ID: <3F829792.44BA71D9@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 05:38:10 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Voigtlanders References: <200310070500.h9750T704426@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Welcome home! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 08:13:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h97DDj21024139 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 08:13:45 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8E7E41E6024F; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 08:11:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F4A51E6024E for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 08:11:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00192F03@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 9:07:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13239814 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 09:07:06 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h97D76707554 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 09:07:06 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h97D768b019149 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 09:07:06 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h97D76fC027143 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 09:07:06 -0400 Message-ID: <01ac01c38cd3$e854b740$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3f.230f48b6.2cb342a7@aol.com> Subject: Re: Re: Sean Hannity wins award Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 09:07:05 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ev, I was being opaquely sarcastic. I appreciate Hannity, and I laugh at the way he sets up his guests, like lambs for the slaughter. ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Evelyn Duncan" To: Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 6:11 PM Subject: Re: Sean Hannity wins award > In a message dated 10/6/2003 8:01:25 AM Central Daylight Time, awild@URI.EDU > writes: > See... I always *knew* he was a worthless bias :-\ It's exposure on that > damned FOX News channel that has turned him into the scoundrel he is. > > Trouble is: I love Sean Hannity. And Keith Olbermann on MSNBC. > Evelyn Duncan > brandykitt@aol.com > http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 08:22:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h97DMe21024260 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 08:22:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BDA091E60063; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 08:20:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BD1E1E60029 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 08:20:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F1F5D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 9:16:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13240507 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 09:16:02 -0400 Received: from web20509.mail.yahoo.com (web20509.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.144]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h97DG1708925 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 09:16:02 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20509.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 06:16:01 PDT Message-ID: <20031007131601.38644.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 06:16:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Voigtlanders To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200310070511.h975BS706025@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bonnie M. Voigtlander" wrote: > >When are they due back? > > > >Like to hear WTDIW, and I miss my weekly rave. > > Weekly rave? > > It seems like what we mostly did was eat and then > eat some more. God, can > they pack away the groceries in Wisconsin. Just a > sec, I'm going to go > step on the scale to see how much I gained ... ... > Wow, only about two > pounds. I would have guessed five or six. I > supposed it helps that they > don't feed you on planes anymore. > > Besides eating, the four of us hiked to LaSalle > Falls one day. Holly and I > took off on a road trip to Bayfield, Wisconsin on > Wednesday. We drove > through snow. There were about three inches of snow > on the ground in > Hurley, Wisconsin where we stopped for lunch. Part > of our lunch was a > Caesar salad for two which would have easily fed six > people. Not only > that, it was made with iceberg lettuce!! > > It was indeed cold up there. But last night, during > a hot flash, I went > out on their deck and saw the stars of the Big > Dipper reflected in the calm > waters of Loon Lake. Quite nice. > > A good time was had by all but it is very good to be > back home in Maine. > > --bonniev Sounds lovely. I've seen a photograph of the mist rising over Loon Lake. Glad you're back in residence, though. Read "rant" for "rave". I'm ready if you are. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 08:50:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h97Dot21024677 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 08:50:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3CE471E60252; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 08:48:24 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C8DE1E60251 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 08:48:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F203F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 9:44:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13242648 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 09:44:16 -0400 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h97DiF713673 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 09:44:16 -0400 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 15:45:35 +0200 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id SBZZWL1P; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 15:45:30 +0200 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031007151942.01ede798@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 15:43:38 +0200 Subject: Another VSMWTUIG In-Reply-To: <3F82172E.8A9C068@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031006134215.03c30458@localhost> <5.1.1.5.2.20031006154338.00a70b00@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU About 35 kilometres north of Kato Zakro there are some very nice beaches, and since we were at the end of the season there weren't that many people there. Although we *did* wear textile. We went there quite a few times (Palekastro where we could by the Intl. Hereald Tribune is on the way there from Zakro), mainly to the beach called Itanos 1 in this webpage: http://www.palekastro.de/ithanos_e.html but also once to what they call Itanos 3. And yes, we were swimming in the ruins, and the palm forest here is wild grown, a particular endemic palm species I believe. The Itanos 1 beach has lovely white sand far out in the bay and I found a murex vel sim with its beautful purple color around the opening. (I placed it back where I found it, it was more beautiful alive than dead.) Espen From owner-words-l*words-l**GTOAL*-COM@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 09:39:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h97EdO21025410 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 09:39:24 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D6DD31E600A8; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 09:36:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95C841E6009E for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 09:36:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00193215@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:32:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13247844 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:32:45 -0400 Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.4]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h97EWi725078 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:32:44 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HME006FU5QXYB@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 10:32:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.80] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Tue, 07 Oct 2003 10:28:56 -0400 Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 10:28:56 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Daisy To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <1c799f1c4da2.1c4da21c799f@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU You'll just have to keep her then. Have you tried puppy kindergarten or obedience training? I forget, wasn't it your mother who brought Daisy home (on a whim?) in the first place? I don't want to say anything negative about your mother, but that is highly irresponsible behavior. Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: Evelyn Duncan Date: Monday, October 6, 2003 5:58 pm Subject: Re: Daisy > Well, Mom called the three places we were given: the Lab > Rescue people take only full-blooded Labs, and the other > two places are full. > > Evelyn Duncan > brandykitt@aol.com > http://www.thehungersite.com > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 09:40:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h97EeR21025431 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 09:40:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4DB201E600A8; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 09:37:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A84F1E6009E for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 09:37:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F225F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:33:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13248047 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:33:48 -0400 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h97EXm725519 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:33:48 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 07:33:47 PDT Message-ID: <20031007143347.88000.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 07:33:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Another VSMWTUIG To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031007151942.01ede798@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Espen Ore wrote: > About 35 kilometres north of Kato Zakro there are > some very nice beaches, and since we were at the end > of the season there weren't that many people there. > Although we *did* wear textile. We went there quite > a few times (Palekastro where we could by the Intl. > Hereald Tribune is on the way there from Zakro), > mainly to the beach called Itanos 1 in this webpage: > > http://www.palekastro.de/ithanos_e.html > > but also once to what they call Itanos 3. And yes, > we were swimming in the ruins, and the palm forest > here is wild grown, a particular endemic palm > species I believe. The Itanos 1 beach has lovely > white sand far out in the bay and I found a murex > vel sim with its beautful purple color around the > opening. (I placed it back where I found it, it was > more beautiful alive than dead.) > > Espen If you don't desist, there will be a vast exodus of Wordslers to the Greek Isles. Thank you, on behalf of the murex vel sim. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 09:45:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h97Ejx21025571 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 09:45:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 706281E600AF; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 09:43:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 448A61E600A8 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 09:43:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F22A1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:39:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13248685 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:39:20 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h97EdJ726771 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:39:19 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-70.gwi.net [216.195.156.70]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h97EdHYp080256 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:39:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031007103806.00b49518@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 10:39:29 -0400 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: bonniev Subject: hey Rashmi Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU You sure do know how to wipe the history off of Internet Explorer! I didn't even know there was a way to clean it all the way to the point that it won't remember and fill in web addresses you start to type in. Way to go, girl. I'll bet your employer is proud of you. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 10:02:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h97F2L21025795 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:02:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6205C1E60257; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 09:59:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 124C81E60255 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 09:59:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F2333@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:55:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13250492 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:55:41 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h97Etf731635 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:55:41 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h97EtYW1015943 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 07:55:34 -0700 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h97EtXWq015910; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 07:55:34 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031007075301.00a57730@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 07:53:37 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Voigtlanders In-Reply-To: <200310070511.h975BS706025@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:11 AM 10/7/2003 -0400, Bonnie M. Voigtlander wrote: >It was indeed cold up there. But last night, during a hot flash, I went >out on their deck and saw the stars of the Big Dipper reflected in the calm >waters of Loon Lake. Quite nice. Geeze, you're still flashing? Must be a curse. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 10:12:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h97FC921025964 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:12:09 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E930F1E6025A; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:09:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89D821E600AF for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:09:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0019334A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 11:05:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13251619 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 11:05:30 -0400 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h97F5T702101 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 11:05:29 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 08:05:26 PDT Message-ID: <20031007150526.4532.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 08:05:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Voigtlanders To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031007075301.00a57730@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Betty Clark wrote: > At 01:11 AM 10/7/2003 -0400, Bonnie M. Voigtlander > wrote: > >It was indeed cold up there. But last night, > during a hot flash, I went > >out on their deck and saw the stars of the Big > Dipper reflected in the calm > >waters of Loon Lake. Quite nice. > > Geeze, you're still flashing? Must be a curse. A flasher?! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 10:38:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h97FcL21026516 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:38:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7FA551E60257; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:35:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F1A01E60255 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:35:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F248C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 11:31:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13254204 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 11:31:42 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f17.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.17]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h97FVf707447 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 11:31:41 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 08:31:35 -0700 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 15:31:35 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Letter from Iraq Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 11:31:35 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Oct 2003 15:31:35.0973 (UTC) FILETIME=[18041D50:01C38CE8] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Yes, unlike Cheney's pals, they're not charitable enterprises. > >Er, I thought the other countries didn't >want to be involved over there. >Oh, you mean for money they might >want to be involved. > > - D. M. _________________________________________________________________ Instant message in style with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 10:46:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h97Fk721026627 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:46:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 304631E60257; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:43:35 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E18F41E60255 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:43:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F24E5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 11:39:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13254910 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 11:39:27 -0400 Received: from relay2.softcomca.com ([168.144.1.60]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h97FdR708923 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 11:39:27 -0400 Received: from M2W092.mail2web.com ([168.144.251.204]) by relay2.softcomca.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 7 Oct 2003 11:39:21 -0400 Message-ID: <184670-220031027153921885@M2W092.mail2web.com> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: bonniev@gwi.net X-Originating-IP: 142.167.42.153 X-URL: http://mail2web.com/ From: "bonniev@gwi.net" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Voigtlanders Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 11:39:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Oct 2003 15:39:22.0097 (UTC) FILETIME=[2DD8FE10:01C38CE9] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id h97FdR708924 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>It was indeed cold up there. But last night, during a hot flash, I went >>out on their deck and saw the stars of the Big Dipper reflected in the >>calm waters of Loon Lake. Quite nice. >Geeze, you're still flashing? Must be a curse. Nope. I don't have "the curse" anymore. Just the flashes which are a mere annoyance, some days more than others. --bonniev -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 11:01:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h97G1N21026847 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 11:01:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1254F1E600B0; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:58:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C82AE1E6009A for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:58:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00193534@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 11:54:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13256266 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 11:54:43 -0400 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:6hPZ8Y5KCe1RLsSmqbNiAI3s48jBenU9@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h97Fsh711864 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 11:54:43 -0400 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4691630685 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 08:54:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A47C62332B for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 08:54:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001901c38c1f$3288b240$facadece@0018079268> References: <3F81483E.A39D6EC0@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Who is the patron saint of shapleless jumpers? X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Jon-Carroll: We live in a culture of lies Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 08:54:33 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Arnold Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >So many problems, so little time. I feel for California. > > - D. M. Just remember: what starts here, often works its way east. E.g., we gave the country Ronald Reagan. I fear that we Californians are about to get the government we deserve. Not since Richard Nixon has there been a political candidate who has shown as much contempt for the electorate as Arnold has. And before the day is out that electorate may well prove itself worthy of his contempt. As you may remember, at the time that Arnold announced his candidacy, I was rather sanguine at the prospect of Governer Schwarzenegger. But that was before I watched him repeatedly stonewall the press and the public regarding his ideas, his beliefs, and his plans. Either he doesn't think people would vote for him if they knew, or he doesn't want to reveal the fact that he doesn't have any plans. Oh, well. If he really can do something with California's budget and California's economy, then I guess I can overlook his sleaziness. And if he can't, we'll only have to put up with him for three years. Ken Miller Political Correspondent The Lostin Times From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 11:04:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h97G4N21026920 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 11:04:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0BDDE1E600B0; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 11:01:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA7F1E6009A for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 11:01:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F258B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 11:57:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13256626 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 11:57:43 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h97Fvh712504 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 11:57:43 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.74.92]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HME9EK00.R6K for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 08:51:56 -0700 Message-ID: <3F82E26A.D319AC66@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 08:57:30 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Arnold References: <3F81483E.A39D6EC0@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bookrat wrote: > Just remember: what starts here, often works its way east. We militarized the Colorado once, and we can do it again. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 11:20:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h97GK221027210 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 11:20:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8C05E1E6025A; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 11:17:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DF2B1E600C2 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 11:17:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F2655@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 12:13:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13258548 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 12:13:22 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h97GDC715943 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 12:13:12 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h97GDBHL010263 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 09:13:11 -0700 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h97GDAjD010214 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 09:13:10 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031007091037.00a55ad0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 09:11:13 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Arnold In-Reply-To: References: <001901c38c1f$3288b240$facadece@0018079268> <3F81483E.A39D6EC0@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:54 AM 10/7/2003 -0700, you wrote: >Oh, well. If he really can do something with California's budget and >California's economy, then I guess I can overlook his sleaziness. And if >he can't, we'll only have to put up with him for three years. Maybe he will bring in his wife's family to help him. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 11:56:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h97GuT21027701 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 11:56:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DE1211E6025A; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 11:53:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B135E1E600CA for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 11:53:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00193738@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 12:49:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13261863 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 12:49:49 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h97Gnl722446 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 12:49:47 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.72.190]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HMEBTD00.46Y for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 09:44:01 -0700 Message-ID: <3F82EE9A.FF1A32CC@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 09:49:30 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Careful, Alan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty might just buy you one of these. > http://www.powerplank.com/ > JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 12:20:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h97HKr21028066 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 12:20:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 161701E6025D; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 12:18:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C00E11E6025C for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 12:18:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0019380F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:14:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13263954 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:14:13 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h97HED726516 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:14:13 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A6vPr-00086w-RE for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 13:14:32 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031007101013.02327348@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 10:15:02 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Arnold In-Reply-To: References: <001901c38c1f$3288b240$facadece@0018079268> <3F81483E.A39D6EC0@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bookrat writes, >or he doesn't want to reveal the fact that he doesn't have any plans. And has demonstrated that a good chunk of the electorate doesn't care. I think his plan is to govern by charisma and force of will. Who needs plans when you've got raw leadership? What's weird is that people buy that. >And if he can't, we'll only have to put up with him for three years. Of course you realize that if he's elected, the Recall Schwarzenegger initiative starts immediately thereafter... Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 12:25:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h97HP421028154 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 12:25:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3980F1E6025C; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 12:22:32 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADCCB1E600E2 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 12:22:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F28F1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:18:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13264600 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:18:24 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h97HIN727682 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:18:23 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 13:18:22 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 13:18:19 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Arnold Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h97HP421028154 I loved the title of Maureen Dowd's column that was in the Syracuse paper this morning - "Win One for the Groper" BrP >>> bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM 10/07/03 11:54AM >>> >So many problems, so little time. I feel for California. > > - D. M. Just remember: what starts here, often works its way east. E.g., we gave the country Ronald Reagan. I fear that we Californians are about to get the government we deserve. Not since Richard Nixon has there been a political candidate who has shown as much contempt for the electorate as Arnold has. And before the day is out that electorate may well prove itself worthy of his contempt. As you may remember, at the time that Arnold announced his candidacy, I was rather sanguine at the prospect of Governer Schwarzenegger. But that was before I watched him repeatedly stonewall the press and the public regarding his ideas, his beliefs, and his plans. Either he doesn't think people would vote for him if they knew, or he doesn't want to reveal the fact that he doesn't have any plans. Oh, well. If he really can do something with California's budget and California's economy, then I guess I can overlook his sleaziness. And if he can't, we'll only have to put up with him for three years. Ken Miller Political Correspondent The Lostin Times From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 12:41:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h97Hfg21028359 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 12:41:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9BE4A1E600E2; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 12:39:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FE371E6025B for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 12:39:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F29B1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:35:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13266377 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:34:51 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h97HYo731584 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:34:51 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h97HYl6o025207 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 12:34:49 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000f01c38cfa$42b6e160$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <001901c38c1f$3288b240$facadece@0018079268> <3F81483E.A39D6EC0@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031007101013.02327348@mail.istori.com> Subject: Re: Re: Arnold Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 12:41:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > >or he doesn't want to reveal the fact that he doesn't have any plans. > > And has demonstrated that a good chunk of the electorate doesn't care. > > I think his plan is to govern by charisma and force of will. Who needs > plans when you've got raw leadership? > > What's weird is that people buy that. > > >And if he can't, we'll only have to put up with him for three years. > > Of course you realize that if he's elected, the Recall Schwarzenegger > initiative starts immediately thereafter... > > Pete It was interesting when W Buffett said the first thing Arnold would have to do is raise the real estate taxes . . and then Arnold say no he would not do that. (So much for advice). Anyway Buffett said his California home is worth $4 million, but its property taxes are only $2,264. When I heard that I was totally shocked. Taxes on our modest home are more than that. (Buffett's Nebraska house is worth $500,000, with a property tax bill of about $14,000.) With a lid like California has on it's taxes, no wonder they're running short of money. But then if a candidate announced he would raise those taxes, would anyone vote for him? How about if he announced he would put a lid on welfare payments and free emergency room care? No, I guess no candidate is going to get very specific on how he's going to find money to run the state. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 12:42:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h97Hgc21028363 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 12:42:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 276661E6025B; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 12:40:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7E7A1E600E2 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 12:40:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F2996@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:35:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13266426 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:35:58 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h97HZv731686 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:35:57 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.74.122]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HMEDY701.H74 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:30:07 -0700 Message-ID: <3F82FC1A.AEC5F38C@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 10:47:06 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Arnold References: <001901c38c1f$3288b240$facadece@0018079268> <3F81483E.A39D6EC0@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031007101013.02327348@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > And has demonstrated that a good chunk of the electorate doesn't care. "What is good?" "To crush your enemies, drive them before you, and listen to the lamentations of their women." (Sorry - I couldn't resist.) JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 12:56:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h97HuB21028570 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 12:56:12 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 01A181E600E2; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 12:53:39 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C13E21E600D6 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 12:53:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00193942@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:49:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13267722 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:49:31 -0400 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h97HnV702339 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:49:31 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 10:49:30 PDT Message-ID: <20031007174930.45618.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:49:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Arnold To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I fear that we Californians are about to get the > government we deserve. > Not since Richard Nixon has there been a political > candidate who has shown > as much contempt for the electorate as Arnold has. > And before the day is > out that electorate may well prove itself worthy of > his contempt. Hope you and the other Golden Bears voted in spite of what the outcome may be; although my husband's credo is, "If you are not going to vote for my candidate, get lost". A shockingly pervasive attitude, I believe. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 13:03:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h97I3J21028687 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:03:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 079C31E6025B; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:00:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE51D1E600E2 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:00:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F2A62@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:56:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13268359 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:56:39 -0400 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h97Hud704079 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:56:39 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 10:56:38 PDT Message-ID: <20031007175638.90982.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:56:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Arnold To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Paul Barfoot wrote: > I loved the title of Maureen Dowd's column that was > in the Syracuse paper this morning - "Win One for > the Groper" > > BrP :-] :-] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 13:15:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h97IFJ21028873 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:15:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B1F231E6025D; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:12:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 839AB1E6025C for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:12:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F2ABB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 14:08:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13269181 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 14:08:39 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h97I8d706053 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 14:08:39 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h97I8c8b000948 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 14:08:38 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h97I8cfC028359 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 14:08:38 -0400 Message-ID: <02a101c38cfe$086da0d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3F82EE9A.FF1A32CC@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Subject: Re: Careful, Alan Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 14:08:38 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Williams" > Marty might just buy you one of these. > > > > http://www.powerplank.com/ > > > > JMW I expect Marty will write me apologetically and disgusted with the fact they haven't a four-stroke version, more quiet, and environmentally friendly... (he hates mixing oil & vinegar, never mind oil & gas) 'Alan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 13:23:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h97INt21029025 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:23:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2F62A1E6025C; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:21:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDA681E6002D for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:21:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F2B0C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 14:17:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13269726 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 14:17:14 -0400 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h97IHE707531 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 14:17:14 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 11:06:54 PDT Message-ID: <20031007180654.3570.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 11:06:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Arnold To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <000f01c38cfa$42b6e160$facadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > It was interesting when W Buffett said the first > thing Arnold would have to do is raise the > real estate taxes . . and then Arnold say no > he would not do that. (So much for advice). > Anyway Buffett said his California home is worth $4 > million, but its > property taxes are only $2,264. When I heard that I > was totally > shocked. Taxes on our modest home are more than > that. > > (Buffett's Nebraska house is worth $500,000, with a > property tax bill > of about $14,000.) > > With a lid like California has on it's taxes, no > wonder they're running short of money. > But then if a candidate announced he would > raise those taxes, would anyone vote for him? > How about if he announced he would put a > lid on welfare payments and free emergency > room care? > > No, I guess no candidate is going to get very > specific on how he's going to find money to > run the state. Due to the fact that the Alabama governor's tax package was defeated, Alabama property taxes will remain dirt cheap, even though the appraisal process was "upgraded" within the past three years. Of course, tax payers get boinked in other ways, statewide and locally. Folks just do not want to pay increased taxes of any kind; they don't seem to realize what lean times lie before us. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 13:26:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h97IQY21029049 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:26:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3EC0A1E6002D; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:24:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 073141E60026 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:24:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F2B20@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 14:19:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13270128 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 14:19:53 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f76.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.76]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h97IJo708006 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 14:19:50 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 11:19:45 -0700 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 18:19:44 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Careful, Alan Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 14:19:44 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Oct 2003 18:19:45.0173 (UTC) FILETIME=[95A5DC50:01C38CFF] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I figured you'd settle for cross country skis. --Marty >From: Alan Wild >>I expect Marty will write me apologetically and disgusted with the fact >>they >haven't a four-stroke version, more quiet, and environmentally friendly... >(he hates mixing oil & vinegar, never mind oil & gas) > >'Alan _________________________________________________________________ High-speed Internet access as low as $29.95/month (depending on the local service providers in your area). Click here. https://broadband.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 16:55:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h97Ltl21001972 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 16:55:47 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0019424F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 17:48:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13289769 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 17:48:42 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h97Lmf717051 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 17:48:41 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.175.14]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031007214844.OGHO802.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 17:48:44 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8334B5.E79C7A1B@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 16:48:37 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Arnold References: <3F81483E.A39D6EC0@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bookrat wrote: > he can't, we'll only have to put up with him for three years. Why three years? Can't the recall be called for right away? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 17:05:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h97M5Z21002368 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 17:05:35 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0019429B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 17:58:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13290519 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 17:58:29 -0400 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h97LwT718495 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 17:58:29 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h97Lw67Q015690 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 14:58:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F8336C6.1090203@swbell.net> Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 16:57:26 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Arnold References: <20031007180654.3570.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sometimes changing the property taxes has unintended consequences. For example, about 20 years ago, in a bid to raise tax money after prop 2 1/2 (put a 2 1/2% lid on property taxes), my home town decided to tax undeveloped land at the developed land rate (they had previously been at different rates). The result was that people with acreage could no longer afford to pay the taxes on it and started selling it off to developers. The result is that almost all the green space in town is gone, the population has quadrupled+, the schools are bursting with no land left to build new ones on, and the water table is so overtaxed they are on permanant water ban. Lynne Weber wrote: >>It was interesting when W Buffett said the first >>thing Arnold would have to do is raise the >>real estate taxes . . and then Arnold say no >>he would not do that. (So much for advice). >>Anyway Buffett said his California home is worth $4 >>million, but its >>property taxes are only $2,264. When I heard that I >>was totally >>shocked. Taxes on our modest home are more than >>that. >> >> (Buffett's Nebraska house is worth $500,000, with a >>property tax bill >>of about $14,000.) >> >>With a lid like California has on it's taxes, no >>wonder they're running short of money. >>But then if a candidate announced he would >>raise those taxes, would anyone vote for him? >>How about if he announced he would put a >>lid on welfare payments and free emergency >>room care? >> >>No, I guess no candidate is going to get very >>specific on how he's going to find money to >>run the state. >> > > > Due to the fact that the Alabama governor's tax > package was defeated, Alabama property taxes will > remain dirt cheap, even though the appraisal process > was "upgraded" within the past three years. Of > course, tax payers get boinked in other ways, > statewide and locally. Folks just do not want to pay > increased taxes of any kind; they don't seem to > realize what lean times lie before us. > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 17:32:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h97MWH21003211 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 17:32:18 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0019434B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 18:25:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13292153 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 18:25:10 -0400 Received: from relay1.softcomca.com (relay1.softcomca.com [168.144.1.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h97MOH721423 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 18:24:18 -0400 Received: from M2W076.mail2web.com ([168.144.251.186]) by relay1.softcomca.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 7 Oct 2003 18:24:12 -0400 Message-ID: <114780-220031027222412478@M2W076.mail2web.com> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: bonniev@gwi.net X-Originating-IP: 142.167.44.99 X-URL: http://mail2web.com/ From: "bonniev@gwi.net" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: hey Rashmi Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 18:24:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Oct 2003 22:24:12.0536 (UTC) FILETIME=[BC13D780:01C38D21] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id h97MOI721424 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >bonniev wrote: > >> You sure do know how to wipe the history off of Internet Explorer! I >Oohhh. Doncha wonder what tracks she was carefully covering. > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) That occured to me and then I just figured she has become security conscious because of her job. --bonniev -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 19:41:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h980fI21006183 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 19:41:19 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00194605@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 20:34:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13299538 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 20:34:12 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h980YC703924 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 20:34:12 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A72Hh-0005Q6-N8 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 20:34:34 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031007153104.03e756f0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 17:35:02 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Arnold In-Reply-To: <3F833507.65765134@maynor.net> References: <001901c38c1f$3288b240$facadece@0018079268> <3F81483E.A39D6EC0@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031007101013.02327348@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, >What if the recall fails and Davis remains? Can there be another recall >initiative soon? Davis would have six months after the election before another recall could be initiated. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 20:49:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h981nq21007448 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 20:49:52 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0019471A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:42:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13302670 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:42:46 -0400 Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com (web20502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h981gj712564 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:42:45 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 18:42:44 PDT Message-ID: <20031008014244.57873.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 18:42:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: A Long Day To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F83694B.9BC5C6F5@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I'm feeling like my RRB&SIL, who are constantly > having political parties > -- only theirs are usually $1000-a-person > fundraisers. This one is not > a fundraiser. The guests don't pay to come. They > come because we hosts > invite them, albeit the motives behind the > invitations are clearly > political. Neat and cool. Any more talk of the abortion thing? Dr. Rabbitdog really should legally change his name to Dr. Rabbitdog. It's unique and quite evocative. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 20:50:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h981oo21007475 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 20:50:50 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00194709@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:43:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13302696 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:43:44 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h981hh712647 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:43:43 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h981heJl006323 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 20:43:41 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000401c38d3e$8a3c4400$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3F833507.65765134@maynor.net> <001901c38c1f$3288b240$facadece@0018079268> <3F81483E.A39D6EC0@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031007101013.02327348@mail.istori.com> <4.2.2.20031007183731.00a30510@uclink.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: The CA election Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 20:50:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I had to stand in line to vote. I hope that is a good sign. > > Betty Look, Betty. We are awaiting news from California, and this is the best you can come up with? For instance, what would it be good sign of? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 20:58:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h981wH21007577 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 20:58:17 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00194760@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:51:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13303411 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:51:11 -0400 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h981pA713789 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:51:10 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 18:51:09 PDT Message-ID: <20031008015109.24249.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 18:51:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Arnold To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031007184743.00ae2100@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >What does the voting look like so far? I purposely > >have not checked. I'd rather see your commentary. > > The polls aren't closed yet. It's not even 7 PM > > Betty Sorry, I'm just very expectant. I don't know if anyone has a clue as to which way it might go. My husband said he heard something on NBC about exit polls. I thought they had done away with those, after the Florida debacle. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 20:59:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h981xw21007600 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 20:59:59 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00194769@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:52:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13303521 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:52:52 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h981qp714012 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:52:51 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.150.107]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031008015249.PSYV16928.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:52:49 -0400 Message-ID: <3F836DEF.6ECEE00A@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 20:52:47 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Long Day References: <20031008014244.57873.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Neat and cool. Any more talk of the abortion thing? Some Letters to the Editor attacking her for being , but not much else. She definitely made a serious boo-boo, imho. Somebody tonight said that it had happened because she had lost her temper at the opponent's calling her "pro-abortion" and had spoken rashly in her anger. That is not a good thing for a politican. > Dr. Rabbitdog really should legally change his name > to Dr. Rabbitdog. It's unique and quite evocative. He seems like an ok person. (He's new -- that's why we chose him to speak today.) And yes, Rabbitdog would be a good name. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 21:02:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9822T21007702 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:02:29 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00194769@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:55:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13303629 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:55:23 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h981tM714251 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:55:22 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h981tJJl028910 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 20:55:20 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001701c38d40$2a5f0700$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3F833507.65765134@maynor.net> <001901c38c1f$3288b240$facadece@0018079268> <3F81483E.A39D6EC0@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031007101013.02327348@mail.istori.com> <4.2.2.20031007183731.00a30510@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031007184931.00a34ba0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: Re: The CA election Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:02:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > At 08:50 PM 10/7/2003 -0500, Doris Markland wrote: > > > I had to stand in line to vote. I hope that is a good sign. > > > > > > Betty > > > >Look, Betty. We are awaiting news from > >California, and this is the best you can come > >up with? > > > >For instance, what would it be good sign of? > > > > - D. M. > > Don't you have children in this state to ask? > > Betty Do you really think that I am closer to my children than I am to you? Really. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 21:07:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9827I21007765 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:07:18 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0019477D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:00:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13303939 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:00:11 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9820B715000 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:00:11 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9820A2f007104 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 19:00:10 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h98209JC007072; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 19:00:09 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031007190029.00ae28e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 19:01:32 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Arnold-The Gropenator In-Reply-To: <3F836E2F.2380BF31@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031007153104.03e756f0@mail.istori.com> <4.2.2.20031007184743.00ae2100@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:53 PM 10/7/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty wrote: > > > The polls aren't closed yet. It's not even 7 PM > >How does it feel to be always behind the times? I guess you can say, >"Thank goodness for Hawaii." I'm okay with it actually. I just go with the flow. What's really important? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 21:44:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h982im21008523 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:44:48 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A4A0B1E600FB; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:44:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7389C1E600FA for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:44:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001948BB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:38:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13305814 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:38:04 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h982c3718892 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:38:03 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h982c0Jl022750 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:38:01 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001501c38d46$208637c0$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000e01c38d40$017b7f80$facadece@0018079268> <3F836F9C.9F4C9825@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: The Election Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:44:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Doris Markland wrote: > > > > If the election should go to the Terminator, > > would you folks in California like the name > > of several of my friends in Minnesota who > > lived through Jesse Ventura? They could > > maybe tell you how they survived. > > (They were aghast. But they did survive) > > Why has he been so silent lately? Or have I just somehow overlooked > news of him? I was thinking that not long ago. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > Speak of the devil! Brian Williams just interviewed Ventura on MSNBC. Jesse said, among other things , that Californians treat politics like their marriages . . that if one doesn't work out they try another. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 21:56:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h982uv21008777 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:57 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8E2871E6010B; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 604471E600E5 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F32E8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 17:21:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13288089 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 17:21:29 -0400 Received: from imo-r01.mx.aol.com (imo-r01.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.97]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h97LLT713364 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 17:21:29 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.18d.206b5da3 (3657) for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 17:20:35 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <18d.206b5da3.2cb48823@aol.com> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 17:20:35 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Daisy To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/7/2003 9:33:31 AM Central Daylight Time, 14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET writes: << I forget, wasn't it your mother who brought Daisy home (on a whim?) in the first place? I don't want to say anything negative about your mother, but that is highly irresponsible behavior. >> Both my brother and I think she's in the early stages of Alzheimer's. God, I hope not. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 21:56:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h982uv21008779 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:57 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 98B0F1E600FB; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BF721E60101 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F33A8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 17:50:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13289850 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 17:50:04 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h97Lo4717266 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 17:50:04 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.175.14]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031007215006.OGXY802.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 17:50:06 -0400 Message-ID: <3F833507.65765134@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 16:49:59 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Arnold References: <001901c38c1f$3288b240$facadece@0018079268> <3F81483E.A39D6EC0@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031007101013.02327348@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > Of course you realize that if he's elected, the Recall Schwarzenegger > initiative starts immediately thereafter... What if the recall fails and Davis remains? Can there be another recall initiative soon? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 21:56:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h982uv21008788 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:57 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CDADC1E60113; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C4F71E60101 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F389C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:33:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13302344 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:33:09 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h981X9711715 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:33:09 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.150.107]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031008013307.PKYQ16928.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:33:07 -0400 Message-ID: <3F83694B.9BC5C6F5@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 20:32:59 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: A Long Day Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It has been a long but not-bad day. After teaching this morning, I raced madly to get a budget for the xmas banquet made to present at the ARF board meeting at 1:15, making discoveries like there's a $50 fee for "unlocking" the piano in the Union ballroom. How ridiculous. The board meeting was full of , and then I had to introduce the Provost, who was the speaker at the Big Meeting. I am happy to report that I didn't slip up and call him Dr. Rabbitdog. I got his name right -- Rabideau. Then major rushing back to campus after I got home because I realized I'd left some Blackmon bumper stickers in my office that I needed to take to a meeting at 6 p.m., where we addressed postcards for political candidates and where a few of us finalized the plans for a party we're giving for the Chancery Clerk, who is running for re-election. I just got home and was on the verge of addressing my thirty invitations to the party but decided my hands were dead from addressing postcards. It's also hard trying to decide who to invite. It's going to be a very shindig at an extremely expensive new restaurant (but since it's just hors d'ouvres and no alcohol -- just coffee and tea -- and since we have a bunch of hosts, the cost for each one of us will be not bad -- less than $50 we're guessing -- I think it would be a much better event with alcohol, but that would get impossibly costly unless we were allowed to bring it). The reason it's hard trying to decide who to invite is that the idea is to invite people who aren't ironclad Democrats -- people who might be swayed to vote for Monica by attending our party and getting to know her and who might not have voted for her otherwise -- people who might not even know her since they live in the lily-white world and aren't used to partying with people of other skin colors. Most people I know well don't fall into this targeted group. Otoh, it would be silly to waste an invitation on people like my hard-core Republican insurance agent. I think I'm going to send my allotment to people I know only vaguely and whose politics I know little about. But in a way it seems wrong to exclude people from this event just because we know they already (as in ). We're not mailing the invitations until early next week, so I can ponder this for a while. We've also decided not to worry about overlap -- that if various of us send invitations to the same people, that's ok. I'm feeling like my RRB&SIL, who are constantly having political parties -- only theirs are usually $1000-a-person fundraisers. This one is not a fundraiser. The guests don't pay to come. They come because we hosts invite them, albeit the motives behind the invitations are clearly political. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 21:56:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h982uv21008791 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D75CD1E6010D; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4C1C1E60106 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F38B0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:40:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13302557 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:40:51 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h981ep712300 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:40:51 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A73KD-0001sV-1t for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 21:41:13 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031007183925.03a78008@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 18:41:41 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Arnold In-Reply-To: <20031008012938.64296.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031007153104.03e756f0@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber writes, >What does the voting look like so far? I purposely >have not checked. I'd rather see your commentary. I haven't been checking either. From the little I've looked, it seems like they've been good about not talking about results until the polls close. Turnout seems good, and there's a big chunk of absentee votes that came in before the latest allegations about Scharzenegger, so it'll be an interesting count. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 21:56:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h982uw21008799 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1B7451E600FB; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAEE21E60114 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F38C6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:48:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13302971 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:48:48 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h981mm713420 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:48:48 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h981mk2f029525 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 18:48:46 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h981mjJC029502; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 18:48:45 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031007184931.00a34ba0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 18:50:08 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: The CA election In-Reply-To: <000401c38d3e$8a3c4400$facadece@0018079268> References: <3F833507.65765134@maynor.net> <001901c38c1f$3288b240$facadece@0018079268> <3F81483E.A39D6EC0@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031007101013.02327348@mail.istori.com> <4.2.2.20031007183731.00a30510@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:50 PM 10/7/2003 -0500, Doris Markland wrote: > > I had to stand in line to vote. I hope that is a good sign. > > > > Betty > >Look, Betty. We are awaiting news from >California, and this is the best you can come >up with? > >For instance, what would it be good sign of? > > - D. M. Don't you have children in this state to ask? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 21:56:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h982uw21008806 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 600631E600E5; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29C611E60113 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F38F4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:53:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13303559 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:53:55 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h981rt714112 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:53:55 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.150.107]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031008015354.PTME16928.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:53:54 -0400 Message-ID: <3F836E2F.2380BF31@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 20:53:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Arnold References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031007153104.03e756f0@mail.istori.com> <4.2.2.20031007184743.00ae2100@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > The polls aren't closed yet. It's not even 7 PM How does it feel to be always behind the times? I guess you can say, "Thank goodness for Hawaii." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 21:56:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h982uw21008807 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 60F2D1E60118; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CADA1E60112 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F3904@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:54:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13303575 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:54:13 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h981sD714151 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:54:13 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h981sAJl026796 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 20:54:11 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000e01c38d40$017b7f80$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: The Election Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:00:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h982uw21008807 If the election should go to the Terminator, would you folks in California like the name of several of my friends in Minnesota who lived through Jesse Ventura? They could maybe tell you how they survived. (They were aghast. But they did survive) - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 21:56:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h982uw21008802 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 28DF81E6010B; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7FF01E60112 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F390F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:52:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13303511 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:52:28 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h981qR713981 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:52:27 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h981qR8b015232 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:52:27 -0400 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h981qRfC027443 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:52:27 -0400 Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 21:50:21 -0400 From: Terry Wild To: Words-L Subject: RI Tremor Message-ID: <108713671.1065563421@TWild.uri.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Now RI is having earthquakes! Although barely noticeable by CA standards, 1.8, I happily admit I felt nothing. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 21:57:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h982uv21008789 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:57 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CFAD71E60101; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FEC51E6010D for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F3895@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:36:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13302441 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:36:44 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h981ai711964 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:36:44 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h981ag2f017838 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 18:36:43 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h981afJC017826 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 18:36:42 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031007183731.00a30510@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 18:38:05 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Subject: The CA election In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031007153104.03e756f0@mail.istori.com> References: <3F833507.65765134@maynor.net> <001901c38c1f$3288b240$facadece@0018079268> <3F81483E.A39D6EC0@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031007101013.02327348@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I had to stand in line to vote. I hope that is a good sign. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 21:57:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h982ux21008840 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 362D61E6016B; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 015701E60113 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F3941@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:06:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13304347 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:06:59 -0400 Received: from imo-m01.mx.aol.com (imo-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.4]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9826x715701 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:06:59 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.17e.21254063 (4459) for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:06:46 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <17e.21254063.2cb4cb36@aol.com> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:06:46 EDT Subject: elbow To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I wish it didn't cost so much to get X-rays; I think I hurt something in my elbow when Daisy pulled me down. It doesn't hurt much to move it, but it hurts to touch it. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 21:57:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h982uw21008825 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B148B1E6010B; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B41D1E6011F for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F3936@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:00:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13303918 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:00:01 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98200714950 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:00:00 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.150.107]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031008015959.PWAC16928.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:59:59 -0400 Message-ID: <3F836F9C.9F4C9825@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 20:59:56 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Election References: <000e01c38d40$017b7f80$facadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > If the election should go to the Terminator, > would you folks in California like the name > of several of my friends in Minnesota who > lived through Jesse Ventura? They could > maybe tell you how they survived. > (They were aghast. But they did survive) Why has he been so silent lately? Or have I just somehow overlooked news of him? I was thinking that not long ago. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 21:56:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h982uv21008778 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:57 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 907331E600E5; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 623361E600FA for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F3305@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 17:24:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13288348 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 17:24:32 -0400 Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h97LOV713947 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 17:24:31 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.18c.20a9749e (3657) for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 17:22:44 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <18c.20a9749e.2cb488a4@aol.com> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 17:22:44 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Daisy To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/7/2003 9:33:31 AM Central Daylight Time, 14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET writes: << You'll just have to keep her then. Have you tried puppy kindergarten or obedience training? >> We would need for someone to come here to train us (Mom, Daisy, and me; Sweetie doesn't need training). Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 21:56:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h982uv21008780 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:57 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 950211E600FA; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 689F11E600FB for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F3389@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 17:47:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13289723 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 17:47:50 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h97Llo716958 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 17:47:50 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.175.14]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031007214752.OFWY802.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 17:47:52 -0400 Message-ID: <3F833481.647C4901@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 16:47:45 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: hey Rashmi References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031007103806.00b49518@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > You sure do know how to wipe the history off of Internet Explorer! I Oohhh. Doncha wonder what tracks she was carefully covering. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 21:56:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h982uv21008790 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:57 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D9E7B1E60106; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7E731E60111 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F38C6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:46:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13302787 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:45:33 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h981jX712962 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:45:33 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.150.107]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031008014532.PPRM16928.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:45:32 -0400 Message-ID: <3F836C39.71BAD34D@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 20:45:29 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The CA election References: <3F833507.65765134@maynor.net> <001901c38c1f$3288b240$facadece@0018079268> <3F81483E.A39D6EC0@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031007101013.02327348@mail.istori.com> <4.2.2.20031007183731.00a30510@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > > I had to stand in line to vote. I hope that is a good sign. I heard on NPR this afternoon that the turnout seemed heavy -- that people were lined up when the polls opened at places where usually nobody is lined up. Is that good or bad in this case? What exactly might it portend? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 21:56:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h982uv21008792 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E360A1E600E5; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B07A11E60112 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F38B0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:46:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13302870 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:46:45 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h981ki713135 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:46:44 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h981kh2f027575 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 18:46:43 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h981kgJC027548; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 18:46:42 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031007184743.00ae2100@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 18:48:05 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Arnold In-Reply-To: <20031008012938.64296.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031007153104.03e756f0@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:29 PM 10/7/2003 -0700, Lynne Weber wrote: >Davis would have six months after the election before >another recall could >be initiated. > >Pete > >What does the voting look like so far? I purposely >have not checked. I'd rather see your commentary. The polls aren't closed yet. It's not even 7 PM Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 21:56:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h982uw21008805 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 334531E60114; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3B2D1E600FA for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F3911@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:53:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13303534 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:53:31 -0400 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h981rV714062 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:53:31 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 18:53:30 PDT Message-ID: <20031008015330.24757.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 18:53:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: RI Tremor To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <108713671.1065563421@TWild.uri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Terry Wild wrote: > Now RI is having earthquakes! Although barely > noticeable by CA standards, > 1.8, I happily admit I felt nothing. > > > > Terry You do not have even the shadow of a volcano there, I hope? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 21:56:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h982uv21008781 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:57 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A06B81E6010F; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70AB41E60106 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F3888@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:32:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13302309 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:32:28 -0400 Received: from web20513.mail.yahoo.com (web20513.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h981WR711628 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:32:27 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20513.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 18:29:38 PDT Message-ID: <20031008012938.64296.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 18:29:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Arnold To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031007153104.03e756f0@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Davis would have six months after the election before another recall could be initiated. Pete What does the voting look like so far? I purposely have not checked. I'd rather see your commentary. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 21:56:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h982uw21008798 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1ED2C1E60106; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD1DE1E60111 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F38B8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:48:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13302975 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:48:50 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h981mn713426 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:48:49 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.150.107]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031008014848.PRDL16928.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:48:48 -0400 Message-ID: <3F836CFE.D94E650B@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 20:48:46 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Arnold References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031007153104.03e756f0@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031007183925.03a78008@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > I haven't been checking either. From the little I've looked, it seems like > they've been good about not talking about results until the polls close. NPR said that there are two exit-poll working and that presumably their results -- as in they'll be hesitant to make strong judgments given the recent problems with exit polls -- will presumably come out after the polls close if there seem to be fairly substantial numbers -- as in differences -- as in strong of outcomes. I think they said that the exit-poll results might not be mentioned right away if they show things to be extremely close. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 21:56:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h982uw21008808 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 666061E60112; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 379CD1E600FA for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F38FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:55:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13303624 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:55:06 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h981t6714242 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:55:06 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h981t68b015307 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:55:06 -0400 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h981t6fC027826 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:55:06 -0400 Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 21:53:00 -0400 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Long Day Message-ID: <108872531.1065563579@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <3F83694B.9BC5C6F5@maynor.net> References: <3F83694B.9BC5C6F5@maynor.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --On Tuesday, October 07, 2003 8:32 PM -0500 Natalie Maynor wrote: > I am happy to report > that I didn't slip up and call him Dr. Rabbitdog. I got his name right > -- Rabideau. I'm glad you didn't call him Rabiddog! Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 21:57:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h982ux21008835 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EE8961E6010F; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C04A51E60112 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F393D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:03:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13304174 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:03:40 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9823e715413 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:03:40 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.150.107]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031008020337.PXGD16928.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:03:37 -0400 Message-ID: <3F837076.E29AE2C7@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 21:03:34 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Arnold-The Gropenator References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031007153104.03e756f0@mail.istori.com> <4.2.2.20031007184743.00ae2100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031007190029.00ae28e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > >How does it feel to be always behind the times? I guess you can say, > >"Thank goodness for Hawaii." > > I'm okay with it actually. I just go with the flow. What's really important? I'm happy with Central, though I like visiting Eastern because I am less mutant there since I try to leave my body on Central, meaning that I stay up later and get up later, thus being more in synch with others. But I don't know how tv-watchers can manage in Eastern time. Things come on too late. Like movies that are 7-9, a nice time for movies, run past my bedtime in Eastern time. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 21:57:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h982uw21008834 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E8F691E6010D; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B62271E6010F for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F394C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:03:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13304147 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:03:16 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9823G715361 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:03:16 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9823DJl013869 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:03:14 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000801c38d41$44eed7c0$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000e01c38d40$017b7f80$facadece@0018079268> <3F836F9C.9F4C9825@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: The Election Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:09:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Doris Markland wrote: > > > > If the election should go to the Terminator, > > would you folks in California like the name > > of several of my friends in Minnesota who > > lived through Jesse Ventura? They could > > maybe tell you how they survived. > > (They were aghast. But they did survive) > > Why has he been so silent lately? Or have I just somehow overlooked > news of him? I was thinking that not long ago. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Supposedly he just started his new TV show. I don't get that channel, so don't know how it's going. Actually, having lived in Minnesota, I'm not so sure but what his shaking up the state was a good thing. Coldest state I ever lived in, in more ways than one. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 21:57:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h982uw21008826 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BD40F1E60111; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF231E60139 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F3936@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:02:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13304093 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:02:15 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9822E715263 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:02:14 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9822DW1022738 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 19:02:13 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9822CWq022723; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 19:02:12 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031007190242.00af2c30@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 19:03:35 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: The CA election In-Reply-To: <001701c38d40$2a5f0700$facadece@0018079268> References: <3F833507.65765134@maynor.net> <001901c38c1f$3288b240$facadece@0018079268> <3F81483E.A39D6EC0@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031007101013.02327348@mail.istori.com> <4.2.2.20031007183731.00a30510@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031007184931.00a34ba0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:02 PM 10/7/2003 -0500, Doris Markland wrote: > > At 08:50 PM 10/7/2003 -0500, Doris Markland wrote: > > > > I had to stand in line to vote. I hope that is a good sign. > > > > > > > > Betty > > > > > >Look, Betty. We are awaiting news from > > >California, and this is the best you can come > > >up with? > > > > > >For instance, what would it be good sign of? > > > > > > - D. M. > > > > Don't you have children in this state to ask? > > > > Betty > >Do you really think that I am closer to >my children than I am to you? Really. I'm just still sick about the money spent on this mess. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 21:57:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h982uw21008823 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A6C761E60106; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E8B1E60116 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F3919@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:58:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13303806 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:58:57 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h981wv714797 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:58:57 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.150.107]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031008015855.PVQI16928.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:58:55 -0400 Message-ID: <3F836F5A.D61CDA26@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 20:58:50 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Long Day References: <3F83694B.9BC5C6F5@maynor.net> <108872531.1065563579@TWild.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Terry Wild wrote: > I'm glad you didn't call him Rabiddog! Oh yes -- that would not have been good, though the difference between rabiddog and rabbitdog is quite subtle. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 21:57:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h982ux21008837 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F0E971E60112; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1AE91E60113 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F395B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:05:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13304298 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:05:08 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98257715585 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:05:08 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h98254Jl016856 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:05:06 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000401c38d41$8742d2c0$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3F833507.65765134@maynor.net> <001901c38c1f$3288b240$facadece@0018079268> <3F81483E.A39D6EC0@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031007101013.02327348@mail.istori.com> <4.2.2.20031007183731.00a30510@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031007184931.00a34ba0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031007190242.00af2c30@uclink.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: Re: The CA election Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:11:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > At 09:02 PM 10/7/2003 -0500, Doris Markland wrote: > > > At 08:50 PM 10/7/2003 -0500, Doris Markland wrote: > > > > > I had to stand in line to vote. I hope that is a good sign. > > > > > > > > > > Betty > > > > > > > >Look, Betty. We are awaiting news from > > > >California, and this is the best you can come > > > >up with? > > > > > > > >For instance, what would it be good sign of? > > > > > > > > - D. M. > > > > > > Don't you have children in this state to ask? > > > > > > Betty > > > >Do you really think that I am closer to > >my children than I am to you? Really. > > I'm just still sick about the money spent on this mess. Ah, now you are starting to open up. I think that is a good thing. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 21:57:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h982ux21008838 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0A7DB1E6011F; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDF161E60114 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F395E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:06:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13304327 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:06:10 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98269715657 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:06:09 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h982698b015510 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:06:09 -0400 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h98269fC029381 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:06:09 -0400 Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 22:04:03 -0400 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: RI Tremor Message-ID: <109535718.1065564243@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <20031008015330.24757.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031008015330.24757.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --On Tuesday, October 07, 2003 6:53 PM -0700 Lynne Weber wrote: > You do not have even the shadow of a volcano there, I > hope? Not a one that I know of. As far as I know, the potential hotbed is the CT River Valley area. Maybe Adam knows something of this. I quickly looked but couldn't find the 'rumor' that a big one could happen there. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 21:56:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h982uw21008801 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 26A6D1E60111; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5D9A1E6010B for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F38FC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:51:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13303476 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:51:58 -0400 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h981pr713875 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:51:53 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1a7.1a8c075e (4459) for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:51:31 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1a7.1a8c075e.2cb4c7a2@aol.com> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:51:30 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] The CA election To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/7/2003 8:46:16 PM Central Daylight Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << Is that good or bad in this case? What exactly might it portend? >> That people actually care about this election? We had an election here in Tulsa that brought out the voters; people voted for a one cent sales tax that is meant to keep jobs here. I hope it works. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 21:57:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h982uw21008820 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A38DA1E600FB; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FD6E1E60113 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F3926@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:58:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13303781 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:58:32 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h981wW714746 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:58:32 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h981wU2f005075 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 18:58:30 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h981wTJC005063; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 18:58:29 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031007185924.00af6d30@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 18:59:52 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: RI Tremor In-Reply-To: <108713671.1065563421@TWild.uri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:50 PM 10/7/2003 -0400, Terry Wild wrote: >Now RI is having earthquakes! Although barely noticeable by CA standards, >1.8, I happily admit I felt nothing. > > > >Terry Wow! Southern CA had a 3.4 today. It's fun to feel the little ones. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 21:57:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h982uw21008832 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E60381E60116; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B28591E6010D for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F392C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:03:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13304143 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:03:13 -0400 Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9823C715356 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:03:13 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.ae.488d2e7d (4459) for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:02:57 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:02:57 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] The CA election To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/7/2003 8:57:37 PM Central Daylight Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << Yes, I would say that it does mean that. But care in which way? Care to vote no to the recall, care to vote for The Groper, or what? >> We'll know after the election. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 21:57:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h982uw21008809 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6B4111E600FA; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39B5C1E60116 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F38FE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13303655 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:00 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h981u0714321 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:00 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.150.107]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031008015558.PULE16928.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:55:58 -0400 Message-ID: <3F836EAC.F003C686@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 20:55:56 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Arnold References: <20031008015109.24249.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Sorry, I'm just very expectant. I don't know if When is it due? And this reminds me that it's looking like 100% of the invitees are going to show up for my baby shower on the 19th. I need to get to start concentrating on making food, etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 21:57:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h982uw21008824 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AF9E01E600E5; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7788A1E6010D for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F3931@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:59:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13303868 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:59:19 -0400 Received: from web20509.mail.yahoo.com (web20509.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.144]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h981xE714868 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:59:14 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20509.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 18:57:59 PDT Message-ID: <20031008015759.70163.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 18:57:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Arnold To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F836EAC.F003C686@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Lynne Weber wrote: > > > Sorry, I'm just very expectant. I don't know if > > When is it due? Please!! Even the suggestion... __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 21:57:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h982uw21008810 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 751A11E6011A; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 458FF1E6010D for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F3924@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:57:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13303734 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:57:22 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h981vM714568 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:57:22 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.150.107]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031008015720.PUZA16928.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:57:20 -0400 Message-ID: <3F836EFE.458457C3@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 20:57:18 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The CA election References: <1a7.1a8c075e.2cb4c7a2@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > Is that good or bad in this case? What exactly > might it portend? > >> > > That people actually care about this election? Yes, I would say that it does mean that. But care in which way? Care to vote no to the recall, care to vote for The Groper, or what? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 22:00:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9830x21008927 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:00:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6C1211E60106; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:00:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AD121E600E5 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:00:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F3A53@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:54:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13306885 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:54:15 -0400 Received: from web20503.mail.yahoo.com (web20503.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.138]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h982sF720516 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:54:15 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 19:54:14 PDT Message-ID: <20031008025414.34390.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 19:54:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: elbow To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F83740B.E5437F23@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU They're regulars at my xmas parties when I > have xmas parties. So > it is a fact that Republicans have been in my house, > local ones I mean > -- not counting my RRB&SIL. Land sakes! And the house still standing. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 22:03:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9833R21008954 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:03:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 023D01E60106; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:03:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26FEE1E600E5 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:03:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0019493F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:56:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13307168 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:56:41 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h982ue720902 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:56:41 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h982ubJl026920 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:39 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000801c38d48$ba0ece00$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: furniture placement Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:03:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Finally, last night and tonight, I begin to have a vision of how furniture > should be arranged here - the little that I have. The sofa must be moved > from the lr into the den - it is too big for its lr location. And the BIG > electric teevee must also go in the den - somehow. Then the lr will be > like a museum. It will hae a few chairs and some small tables - that's it. > > I am starting to decide where to put paintings, also. > > The Monet prints are in the hallway - I have a nice area that is fairly > private just outside my door, and I have hung the Monet's there - and put > one bookcase there. I mayput freebies in the bookcase. > > Next - speakers and home theatre options. And more hangings. > > Bethany I would love to come and help you. Sounds exciting. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 22:09:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9839W21009092 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:09:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6E41F1E6010F; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:09:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37CF41E6010B for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:09:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F3B4C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:02:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13309005 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:02:48 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9832m722271 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:02:48 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9832iJl011305 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:02:46 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000801c38d49$948cf2a0$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: The Election Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:09:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h9839W21009092 NBC just announced . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Governor Arnold, probably. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 22:12:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h983C621009121 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:12:06 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 81FC91E6010B; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:12:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD401E600E5 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:12:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00194A7F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:05:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13309857 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:05:21 -0400 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9835L722799 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:05:21 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 19:43:37 PDT Message-ID: <20031008024337.69961.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 19:43:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: RI Tremor To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <109535718.1065564243@TWild.uri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Not a one that I know of. As far as I know, the > potential hotbed is the CT > River Valley area. Maybe Adam knows something of > this. I quickly looked > but couldn't find the 'rumor' that a big one could > happen there. It's strange to me, but small tremors in Alabama are not uncommon, and they seem to be occurring more frequently of late. There has been a lot of tremor activity world-wide. Hope it has nothing to do with recall elections. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 22:15:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h983FV21009201 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:15:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BBC721E6010F; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:15:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 876051E600E5 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:15:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00194AEF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:08:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13310779 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:08:47 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9838k723399 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:08:46 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9838dJl023754 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:08:44 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001501c38d4a$681af7c0$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: The Election Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:15:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h983FV21009201 My apologies to the Californians, but I must say this: Well, it's a touchy feely state. Maybe they really wanted a groper. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 22:17:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h983Hh21009237 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:17:43 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E08B41E6010F; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:17:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF0711E600E5 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:17:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F3C74@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:10:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13311250 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:10:49 -0400 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h983An723701 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:10:49 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 20:10:48 PDT Message-ID: <20031008031048.97228.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 20:10:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: furniture placement To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU And more hangings. As opposed to lethal injection. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 22:23:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h983NJ21009350 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:23:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AC9E51E60112; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:23:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F6EB1E60111 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:23:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F3CD9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:16:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13312275 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:16:35 -0400 Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com (web20502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h983GZ724743 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:16:35 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 20:16:34 PDT Message-ID: <20031008031634.81854.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 20:16:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: The Election To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <001501c38d4a$681af7c0$facadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > My apologies to the Californians, but I > must say this: > > Well, it's a touchy feely state. Maybe > they really wanted a groper. > > - D. M. Incorrigible. :-] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 22:27:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h983R721009386 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:27:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 365B31E6025F; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 068B01E60118 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F3949@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:09:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13304429 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:09:09 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98299715889 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:09:09 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A73la-0003vc-VA for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 22:09:31 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031007190901.03c00278@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 19:09:59 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: The CA election In-Reply-To: <3F836EFE.458457C3@maynor.net> References: <1a7.1a8c075e.2cb4c7a2@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, >But care in which way? Care to vote no to the recall, care to vote for >The Groper, or what? I think it's hard to know. Mostly, I keep thinking a larger turnout today means it'll take more signatures for a recall petition. Don't know yet if that's good or bad. :) Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 22:27:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h983R721009388 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:27:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3ED381E60113; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E8641E60114 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F398B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:13:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13304741 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:13:46 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h982Dk716467 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:13:46 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h982Dj8b015655 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:13:45 -0400 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h982DjfC030399 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:13:45 -0400 Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 22:11:39 -0400 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: RI Tremor Message-ID: <109991921.1065564699@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031007185924.00af6d30@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <4.2.2.20031007185924.00af6d30@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Wow! Southern CA had a 3.4 today. It's fun to feel the little ones. > > Betty I'm more worried little ones turn into big ones. I think I have some over paranoid fear about this. It's the not knowing until you're in it that bothers me. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 22:27:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h983R721009389 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:27:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7526D1E600FA; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B5A1E60118 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F39AA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:24:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13305257 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:24:39 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h982Oc717622 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:24:38 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.150.107]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031008022446.SGJS6048.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:24:46 -0400 Message-ID: <3F837561.AADF8C04@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 21:24:33 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: RI Tremor References: <4.2.2.20031007185924.00af6d30@uclink.berkeley.edu> <109991921.1065564699@TWild.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Terry Wild wrote: > > > Wow! Southern CA had a 3.4 today. It's fun to feel the little ones. > > > > Betty > > I'm more worried little ones turn into big ones. I think I have some over > paranoid fear about this. It's the not knowing until you're in it that > bothers me. Do you mean that lots of little ones suggest big ones coming later? Or do you mean that a little one might turn quickly into a big one? I don't think the latter is true. I loved the little earthquakelets I felt regularly in Japan. But I knew they were because my Japanese friends told me that as long as the motion was horizontal, everything was ok -- that you should implement your earthquake actions only if it was vertical. I loved watching the chandelier in my apartment spinning round and round during earthquakelets. And I've been in teeny, tiny, almost imperceptible earthquakes in Memphis and Starkville -- from the New Madrid fault. That has not made me worry about my future. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 22:27:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h983R721009392 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:27:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8388F1E60139; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54DC61E60145 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F3A3B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:49:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13306540 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:49:48 -0400 Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h982nm720088 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:49:48 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1e8.10d5b098 (4246) for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:49:39 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1e8.10d5b098.2cb4d542@aol.com> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:49:38 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] elbow To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/7/2003 9:47:09 PM Central Daylight Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: Is there any visible damage? It's slightly swollen, and there's a yellow tinge to the skin. There's also the skin scrapes. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 22:27:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h983R721009398 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:27:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4C47C1E60261; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ECDD1E60145 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F3996@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:24:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13305201 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:24:18 -0400 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h982OI717560 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:24:18 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1dd.121914ad (4459) for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:23:55 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1dd.121914ad.2cb4cf3b@aol.com> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:23:55 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] elbow To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/7/2003 9:19:18 PM Central Daylight Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << Bunged-up elbows hurt. But they get well. I don't think you need to worry too much unless it's still hurting months from now. >> That's what I thought; that's why I didn't go to the emergency room when it happened. But I'd still like to see X-rays of it. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 22:27:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h983R721009397 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:27:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 438851E60114; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1202A1E60139 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F3992@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:18:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13305005 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:19:00 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h982Ix717054 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:18:59 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.150.107]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031008021903.SEIL6048.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:19:03 -0400 Message-ID: <3F83740B.E5437F23@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 21:18:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: elbow References: <17e.21254063.2cb4cb36@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > > I wish it didn't cost so much to get X-rays; I think I hurt > something in my elbow when Daisy pulled me down. It > doesn't hurt much to move it, but it hurts to touch it. Bunged-up elbows hurt. But they get well. I don't think you need to worry too much unless it's still hurting months from now. And this reminds me that I asked my doctor when I went for my annual poking and groping last week whether I should be worried that the place between my boobs where I pulled a tick off a year and a half ago gets all red and itchy from time to time -- like whether it meant that there were tick parts inside me that were going to eat into my vital organs or whatever. He said that he didn't think I needed to worry -- that even if there were tick parts inside me, they probably wouldn't eat into my vitals and kill me. So I feel better now. Maybe I should invite him to the Monica party. I feel sure he's a Republican, though we've never discussed politics. I have discussed politics with his parents, and they are Republicans. His father was my former doctor, and his mother was one of the tennis group I used to play with. They're regulars at my xmas parties when I have xmas parties. So it is a fact that Republicans have been in my house, local ones I mean -- not counting my RRB&SIL. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 22:27:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h983R721009401 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:27:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DC76C1E600FB; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:57:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8EE31E600E5 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:57:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F3A23@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:50:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13305885 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:50:22 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h982eM719067 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:40:22 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h982e8AR011535 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:40:10 -0400 Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:40:18 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: furniture placement Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Finally, last night and tonight, I begin to have a vision of how furniture should be arranged here - the little that I have. The sofa must be moved from the lr into the den - it is too big for its lr location. And the BIG electric teevee must also go in the den - somehow. Then the lr will be like a museum. It will hae a few chairs and some small tables - that's it. I am starting to decide where to put paintings, also. The Monet prints are in the hallway - I have a nice area that is fairly private just outside my door, and I have hung the Monet's there - and put one bookcase there. I mayput freebies in the bookcase. Next - speakers and home theatre options. And more hangings. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 22:27:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h983RA21009410 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:27:10 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 77AC71E60101; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 492541E60139 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F3A07@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:47:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13306354 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:47:00 -0400 Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com (web20502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h982l0719813 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:47:00 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 19:46:59 PDT Message-ID: <20031008024659.74096.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 19:46:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: elbow To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <17e.21254063.2cb4cb36@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > I wish it didn't cost so much to get X-rays; I think > I hurt > something in my elbow when Daisy pulled me down. It > doesn't hurt much to move it, but it hurts to touch > it. Is there any visible damage? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 22:27:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h983R721009396 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:27:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 809B81E60118; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7621E60262 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:56:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F3A26@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:48:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13306497 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:48:55 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h982mt720010 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:48:55 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h982mt8b016292 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:48:55 -0400 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h982mtfC002685 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:48:55 -0400 Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 22:46:48 -0400 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: RI Tremor Message-ID: <112101234.1065566808@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <3F837561.AADF8C04@maynor.net> References: <4.2.2.20031007185924.00af6d30@uclink.berkeley.edu> <109991921.1065564699@TWild.uri.edu> <3F837561.AADF8C04@maynor.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --On Tuesday, October 07, 2003 9:24 PM -0500 Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Do you mean that lots of little ones suggest big ones coming later? Yes > But I knew they were because my > Japanese friends told me that as long as the motion was horizontal, > everything was ok -- that you should implement your earthquake actions > only if it was vertical. And how does one know the difference with enough time to implement any actions? I loved watching the chandelier in my > apartment spinning round and round during earthquakelets. And I've been > in teeny, tiny, almost imperceptible earthquakes in Memphis and > Starkville -- from the New Madrid fault. That has not made me worry > about my future. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) An experience it would be and a part of me would like just a little 'feel'. But I have no desire to be close to earthquakes or tornados. We were within 20 miles of a tornado in the Birkeshires in MA back in 1995. That was close enough. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 22:38:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h983c621009543 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:38:06 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 788941E60101; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:38:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43A2C1E600FB for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:38:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F3D36@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:31:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13313070 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:31:22 -0400 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h983VM726501 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:31:22 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 20:13:33 PDT Message-ID: <20031008031333.85461.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 20:13:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: elbow To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1e8.10d5b098.2cb4d542@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > It's slightly swollen, and there's a yellow tinge to > the skin. > There's also the skin scrapes. If it's not really painful, it's probably superficial. Why not give it a few days? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 22:43:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h983hq21009610 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:43:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CE58C1E60111; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:43:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B2601E60101 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:43:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F3D38@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:37:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13313365 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:37:07 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f53.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.53]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h983b7727072 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:37:07 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 20:37:01 -0700 Received: from 64.24.186.153 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 08 Oct 2003 03:37:00 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.24.186.153] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Cc: adamh1@comcast.net Subject: BH report Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 03:37:00 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Oct 2003 03:37:01.0612 (UTC) FILETIME=[6F518EC0:01C38D4D] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I had a great time in Bar Harbor. Casa Voigtlander is comfortable, the cats were friendly, Bonnie had left notes, maps and guidebooks anticipating every question I might have had. Acadia was beautiful with fall foliage and crisp autumn air. I went for an early morning walk/jog around Witch Hole Pond on Thursday. It was serene and still and you could really hear the quiet. Great re-introduction to the park. It rained the rest of the morning so after a leisurely breakfast at Cafe This Way (hi Adam!) I drove to the other side of the island and explored Southwest Harbor and the Bass Harbor lighthouse. Day 2 I drove to Jordan Pond and hiked up Penobscot. The cliffs of Penobscot Mountain rise steeply from the western shore of Jordan Pond. The hike started off easy with gentle rises and falls through mixed hardwood forest. Soon the trail became pretty steep. There were even some iron rungs on this section as the trail squeezed thro' narrow cracks in the granite cliff face. This part was pretty tough and I don't know if I could have done it on my own. I happened to fall in with a Swiss/German trio who had done the hike before and that helped a lot. The hard part was soon over and the trail changed to a moderate ascent of the wide open south ridge of Penobscot mountain. This part was simply stunning - there were superb views in all directions and the views kept changing as we got higher. It was one of those picture perfect fall days with blue, blue skies and brilliant blue waters. One of the S/G guys said the best views in BH were from Penobscot and I tend to agree. Words and pictures don't do justice to it. After the summit my S/G buddies went back the way we'd come up, but I followed the trail to the col between Penobscot and Sargent mountains and walked on to Sargent mountain pond - a bowl of water surrounded by spruce trees. Quick change in landscape from rocky ridge to deep forest with that cathedral hush. I walked back to JP on the Deer Brook trail. I suspect that this path isn't used much - there were no cairns, no blue markings and no one along the way. The trail, such as it was, was rocky, and steep with rough footing over wet rocks and tree roots. I stayed along the side of Deer Brook knowing it would eventually lead to JP. It was a little strange being alone in the woods with only the sounds of the brook for company. Day 3 - I did Cadillac - hiked up the north ridge and came down the south ridge. Great views of the town and Frenchman's Bay going up and spectacular views of the island's interior and the coast coming down. The summit winds were fierce and I didn't linger at the top. The climb down was over an enormous, open granite ledge which had many odd-looking, stunted, gnarly trees growing amid the boulders - looked kinda like a bonsai garden. I stopped at Eagle's Crag, a cleft overlooking Otter Creek and the Atlantic on the way down and spent a few minutes there taking in the vista. Expanse of green/yellow/ gold forest directly underneath and the waters of the ocean beyond. The rest of the trail was through hardwood/coniferous forest very well marked with blue paint. My timing was great, it started raining a half hour after I reached Blackwoods (end of the trail). In July I didn't feel like I got a complete sense of the park and this trip made up for it. Fall hiking is simply the best. I can't believe I did so much in three days and in spite of the rain. I made it back home (650 miles) in 10-1/2 hours. The foliage was beautiful all the way from BH to Portland. Not much color south of Maine. I had a great time in BH. Bonnie and Clyde were not there in person but were kind, generous and thoughtful hosts. Mini-vacations are great for the spirit! _________________________________________________________________ Share your photos without swamping your Inbox. Get Hotmail Extra Storage today! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 22:47:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h983lG21009667 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:47:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 964451E60101; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:47:15 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B681E600FB for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:47:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F3D5C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:40:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13313571 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:40:32 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f18.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h983eW727397 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:40:32 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 20:40:26 -0700 Received: from 64.24.186.153 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 08 Oct 2003 03:40:25 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.24.186.153] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: hey Rashmi Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 03:40:25 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Oct 2003 03:40:26.0532 (UTC) FILETIME=[E975DE40:01C38D4D] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev: >You sure do know how to wipe the history off of Internet Explorer! I >didn't even know there was a way to clean it all the way to the point that >it won't remember and fill in web addresses you start to type in. You can never be too paranoid! I'm sorry, hope you had your favorite sites bookmarked. _________________________________________________________________ Share your photos without swamping your Inbox. Get Hotmail Extra Storage today! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 22:57:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h983ut21009819 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:56:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 57D8D1E60113; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:56:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2362B1E60111 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:56:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F3D90@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:50:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13314147 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:50:10 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h983oA728401 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:50:10 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h983o6Jl019494 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:50:07 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000401c38d50$31c4ff80$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: BH report Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:56:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I made it back home (650 miles) in 10-1/2 hours. The > foliage was beautiful all the way from BH to Portland. > Not much color south of Maine. I had a great time > in BH. Bonnie and Clyde were not there in person > but were kind, generous and thoughtful hosts. > Mini-vacations are great for the spirit! Sounds divine and a good deal for everyone all around. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 22:57:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h983ut21009818 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:56:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A3AD51E60112; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:56:53 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 704571E60111 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:56:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F3D8F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:50:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13314143 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:50:10 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f9.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.9]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h983oA728402 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:50:10 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 20:50:04 -0700 Received: from 64.24.186.153 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 08 Oct 2003 03:50:03 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.24.186.153] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Arnold Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 03:50:03 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Oct 2003 03:50:04.0488 (UTC) FILETIME=[41F2F480:01C38D4F] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Is Arnold's wife getting kudos or boos for standing by her man? (I caught the headlines but haven't paid much attention to news frm CA) _________________________________________________________________ Instant message during games with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 23:39:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h984du21010654 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:39:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7C82A1E6004D; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:39:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 440441E60047 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:39:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F3EC0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 0:33:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13316430 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 00:32:52 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h984DR730604 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 00:13:27 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A75hs-0005tk-RO for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 08 Oct 2003 00:13:49 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031007210504.03148518@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 21:13:55 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Arnold In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy writes, >Is Arnold's wife getting kudos or boos for standing by her man? Haven't heard public reactions. Johanne is deeply disappointed. She's disappointed in Oprah, too, who recently had Arnold and Maria on her show, but who didn't say anything after the allegations came out. (Maria is a close long-time friend of Oprah.) Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 23:44:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h984iL21010708 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:44:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 352DC1E60113; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:44:20 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F027D1E6004D for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:44:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00194DF3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 0:37:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13318620 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 00:37:37 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h984ba700930 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 00:37:36 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h984bXJl024862 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:37:34 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000401c38d56$d228d0e0$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3F81483E.A39D6EC0@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Arnold Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:44:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Oh, well. If he really can do something with California's budget and > California's economy, then I guess I can overlook his sleaziness. And if > he can't, we'll only have to put up with him for three years. > > Ken Miller Or else recall him. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 7 23:51:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h984pa21010833 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:51:36 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5F1391E6004D; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:51:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28FA01E60047 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:51:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F3FED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 0:44:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13319063 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 00:44:51 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h984io701794 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 00:44:51 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h984ilJl008871 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:44:49 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000901c38d57$d4fc94e0$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031007210504.03148518@mail.istori.com> Subject: Re: Re: Arnold Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:51:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > >Is Arnold's wife getting kudos or boos for standing by her man? > > Haven't heard public reactions. > > Johanne is deeply disappointed. > > She's disappointed in Oprah, too, who recently had Arnold and Maria on her > show, but who didn't say anything after the allegations came out. (Maria > is a close long-time friend of Oprah.) > > Pete If Oprah is indeed a close friend and had derided Maria's husband, Johanne might have been disappointed also. I shouldn't say this but I must. Perhaps it was the Democrats who put Arnold over. They would not be moved by the recent allegations concerning Arnold, since they believe staunchly that what a man does in his private life does not concern the voters. They made that perfectly clear some time ago. - D. M. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 00:03:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9853x21011087 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 00:03:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E6F731E60113; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 00:03:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B36F21E6004D for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 00:03:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F3FFA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 0:57:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13319488 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 00:57:14 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h984vE702687 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 00:57:14 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A76OG-0000JS-94 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 08 Oct 2003 00:57:36 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031007215238.02f6c3c0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 21:58:04 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Arnold In-Reply-To: <000901c38d57$d4fc94e0$facadece@0018079268> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031007210504.03148518@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland writes, >If Oprah is indeed a close friend and had derided Maria's husband, Johanne >might have been disappointed also. Sexual battery trumps friendship. >I shouldn't say this but I must. Perhaps it was the Democrats who put >Arnold over. I think it's just charisma -- Americans have so Hollywoodized life that manufactured reality seems far superior to plain old reality. Movie stars seem far superior to politicians. >believe staunchly that what a man does in his private life does not >concern the voters. They made that perfectly clear some time ago. That was (in the main) consensual. The allegations about Arnold aren't about his private life, but his interactions with others, alleging assault and abuse of power. Different, and far worse. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 00:43:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h985hC21012366 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 00:43:12 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0374C1E6011D; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 00:43:10 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C68331E6004C for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 00:43:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F40C0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 1:36:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13321638 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 01:36:26 -0400 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h985aQ707342 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 01:36:26 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.16b.24ad75a6 (4246) for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 01:36:16 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <16b.24ad75a6.2cb4fc50@aol.com> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 01:36:16 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Arnold To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU So when does the Constitution get changed so that he can run for President? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 00:45:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h985jr21012434 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 00:45:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 707A91E6011D; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 00:45:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E53E1E6004C for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 00:45:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F40E0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 1:39:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13321659 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 01:39:08 -0400 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h985d8707464 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 01:39:08 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.5b.3f7bd13c (4246) for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 01:38:56 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <5b.3f7bd13c.2cb4fcf0@aol.com> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 01:38:56 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] elbow To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/7/2003 10:31:40 PM Central Daylight Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << If it's not really painful, it's probably superficial. Why not give it a few days? >> I have been, but I'm in a business where I use my arms a lot. Still, I'd like to see the X-rays. I used to devour medical books and encyclopedias when I was a kid. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 02:41:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h987f421014045 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 02:41:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 60B7A1E6025F; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 02:41:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DA061E60145 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 02:41:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F42D0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 3:34:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13326551 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 03:34:18 -0400 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h987YH718151 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 03:34:17 -0400 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 09:35:37 +0200 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id SBZZWP26; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 09:35:32 +0200 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008092412.02793d38@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 09:33:40 +0200 Subject: YAVSWHTUIC In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU We rented a Huyundai Athos which has pretty small wheels and not much space between the bottom of the car and the road (or whatever is beneath the car). On one of our trips we almost pushed it past its possibilities. We drove to Myrtos and then up the hills to Kato Symi and from there to a temple for Aphrodite and Hermes. The place was beautifully located - in a small scale like what I have seen in photos of the sanctuary of Delphi: http://www.in-crete.co.uk/kato_symi.htm We drove on (see the link to the Omalos Plateau) and then instead of down to the west as they mention here: http://www.in-crete.co.uk/omalos_plateau.htm or up which would have been impossible in our car we drove down east. In places the road was a rough but OK dirt road. In places rocks stuck up through the dirt and we had to do a slalom between those and the very loose road shoulder - with quite a lot of possibilities for falling some hundred meters if the car slid off the road. In other places the road was like a dried out river bed: lots of loose stones varying in size from an apple to a human head and our poor car was swimming through this. For added comnfort there was a gas strike going on and this kind of driving drained of the gas so that I could see the needle move. We did get down and we have had no complaints from the car hire company, so that was OK - and we found a privat capitalist gas station owener who didn't want to strike so we got gas. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 05:34:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98AYe21016641 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 05:34:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9DDE61E60124; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 05:34:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 659C61E600EF for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 05:34:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0019524D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 6:27:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13330190 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 06:27:53 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98ARq727465 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 06:27:52 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.159.199]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031008102800.VCRY6048.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 06:28:00 -0400 Message-ID: <3F83E6A4.C9F399A@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 05:27:48 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: furniture placement References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > I have a nice area that is fairly > private just outside my door, and I have hung the Monet's there - Outside your door? In the elements? Why do you want them to have ? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 05:37:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98Ab821016669 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 05:37:08 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2D8831E600EF; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 05:37:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA82F1E6006A for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 05:37:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F447D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 6:30:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13330229 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 06:30:20 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98AUK727596 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 06:30:20 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.159.199]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031008103028.VCZQ6048.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 06:30:28 -0400 Message-ID: <3F83E738.9E491C1@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 05:30:16 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: RI Tremor References: <4.2.2.20031007185924.00af6d30@uclink.berkeley.edu> <109991921.1065564699@TWild.uri.edu> <3F837561.AADF8C04@maynor.net> <112101234.1065566808@TWild.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Terry Wild wrote: > > But I knew they were because my > > Japanese friends told me that as long as the motion was horizontal, > > everything was ok -- that you should implement your earthquake actions > > only if it was vertical. > > And how does one know the difference with enough time to implement any > actions? You know the difference as soon as the motion starts. To implement actions, you must move very quickly -- gas off, chair (or something) stuck in door to the outside, pillow over head under a sturdy table. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 05:41:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98Aft21016758 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 05:41:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B1AC81E6010D; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 05:41:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F89E1E600EF for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 05:41:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F4489@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 6:35:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13330338 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 06:35:08 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98AZ8727851 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 06:35:08 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.159.199]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031008103515.VDQU6048.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 06:35:15 -0400 Message-ID: <3F83E857.8235C63F@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 05:35:03 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: BH report References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Great descriptions! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 05:48:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98Am421016886 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 05:48:05 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 03E741E60121; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 05:48:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C40CF1E600EF for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 05:48:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F4472@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 6:41:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13330426 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 06:41:17 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98AfH728131 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 06:41:17 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.159.199]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031008104125.VELQ6048.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 06:41:25 -0400 Message-ID: <3F83E9C8.AD15D0D2@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 05:41:12 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Arnold References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031007210504.03148518@mail.istori.com> <000901c38d57$d4fc94e0$facadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > They would not be moved by the recent > allegations concerning Arnold, since they > believe staunchly that what a man does > in his private life does not concern the > voters. They made that perfectly clear > some time ago. I don't think somebody's sex-life matters (as in should matter to people not directly involved in the situation -- like not family or whatever), as in FDR's long-time mistress, JFK's hanky-pankies, Bill's leaving his mark on Monica's blue dress, etc. I do think it matters when somebody , which is what Arnold's gropings have seemed to be described as. I must admit that I have not paid great attention to the details, but they weren't consentual, were they? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 05:51:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98Apl21016908 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 05:51:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7793A1E6012C; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 05:51:43 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 419ED1E60121 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 05:51:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F4478@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 6:44:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13330493 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 06:45:00 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98Aix728306 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 06:44:59 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.159.199]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031008104507.VEZY6048.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 06:45:07 -0400 Message-ID: <3F83EAA7.D17B642A@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 05:44:55 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Arnold References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031007210504.03148518@mail.istori.com> <000901c38d57$d4fc94e0$facadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > I shouldn't say this but I must. Perhaps > it was the Democrats who put Arnold over. PS: I meant to add to what I wrote in the previous reply that I don't really get this part. Was the election about the alleged gropings? Iow, even if somebody thought the gropings were fine, would that mean they'd vote for him? I thought his main problem was considered empty-headedness. (But, as I've already said, I haven't followed the Arnold news all that closely. As entertaining as it is, there have simply been too many other things going on lately, locally and elsewhere.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 06:05:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98B4p21017586 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 06:04:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 31E7E1E6003E; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 06:04:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDBDD1E60039 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 06:04:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F44A0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 6:58:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13330965 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 06:58:03 -0400 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98Aw3729427 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 06:58:03 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h98Aw2w4005705 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 05:58:02 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3F83ED80.9090107@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 05:57:04 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words-l Subject: No food! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Grocery store strikes SUCK. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 06:05:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98B5v21017609 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 06:05:57 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 67EEA1E60024; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 06:05:53 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3607E1E60018 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 06:05:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00195298@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 6:59:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13331003 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 06:59:03 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98Ax2729479 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 06:59:02 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.159.199]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031008105906.XLSG802.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 06:59:06 -0400 Message-ID: <3F83EDF2.DC71A4BE@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 05:58:58 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: The Abortion Candidate Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In answer to your question yesterday, Lynne, this column is in today's Clarion-Ledger, written by a well-respected columnist. Unfortunately, I think he's dead right: http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0310/08/lsid.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 06:06:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98B6g21017612 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 06:06:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 305E01E60018; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 06:06:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F336E1E60007 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 06:06:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F44A8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 6:59:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13331031 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 06:59:54 -0400 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98Axs729508 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 06:59:54 -0400 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 13:01:14 +0200 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id SBZZWR23; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 13:01:10 +0200 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008125831.027c2ea8@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 12:59:18 +0200 Subject: Re: elbow In-Reply-To: <1dd.121914ad.2cb4cf3b@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 22:23 07.10.2003 -0400 skrev Evelyn Duncan: >In a message dated 10/7/2003 9:19:18 PM Central Daylight Time, >natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: > ><< >Bunged-up elbows hurt. But they get well. I don't think you need to >worry too much unless it's still hurting months from now. >>> > >That's what I thought; that's why I didn't go to the emergency room >when it happened. But I'd still like to see X-rays of it. This reminds me of the Marx Brothers X-ray machine song and dance in A Day at the Races. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 06:58:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98BwE21018510 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 06:58:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A64AC1E60018; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 06:58:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73B191E60007 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 06:58:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F455F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 7:51:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13332354 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 07:51:26 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98BfQ719624 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 07:41:26 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h98BfCAR000930 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 07:41:14 -0400 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 07:41:22 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: furniture placement In-Reply-To: <000801c38d48$ba0ece00$facadece@0018079268> Message-ID: References: <000801c38d48$ba0ece00$facadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 7 Oct 2003, Doris Markland wrote: >I would love to come and help you. >Sounds exciting. I WISH you could! It's been somewhat overwhelming - and will be to some extent for a long time, I imagine - but it is fun when things begin to take shape, come together. It's much more space than I have ever had - with tons of light, which I need. The windows alone are worth a lot - there are 14 of them, each 56" wide and almost floor to celing (9'). All have blinds - and there is a closet full of drapes and accessories to explore one of these days. Also, some old friends live here at HH - I keep running into more of them. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 06:58:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98BwQ21018513 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 06:58:26 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E2B6F1E60018; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 06:58:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1C651E60007 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 06:58:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F4556@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 7:51:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13332597 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 07:51:38 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98Bpb720443 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 07:51:38 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h98BpaDU018797 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 13:51:36 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h98BpZ0v018795 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 13:51:35 +0200 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 13:51:35 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: Marty Message-ID: <20031008115135.GB18723@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU poor old johnny ray: = ...and any other risotto makers. = = What pan do you use? I've used my copper = saucepan before; tonight I'm trying my = cast iron dutch oven. = = My previous results haven't been bad, but = not, well, . I assume it's more = the learning-risotto curve than the choice = of equipment that's holding me back, but do = you have a special pan you use for it? Patrick is the risotto maker at my house. He always uses the cast iron pan. But also key is heating up the liquid beforehand. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 07:02:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98C2121018570 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 07:02:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E6EA01E60018; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 07:01:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB31E1E60007 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 07:01:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F4573@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 7:55:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13332452 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 07:55:13 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98BjC720029 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 07:45:12 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h98Bj0AR001494 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 07:45:00 -0400 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 07:45:11 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: furniture placement In-Reply-To: <3F83E6A4.C9F399A@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3F83E6A4.C9F399A@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> I have a nice area that is fairly >> private just outside my door, and I have hung the Monet's there - > >Outside your door? In the elements? Why do you want them to have >? Yes, outside my door. But not in the - in the hallway, silly. And they are not there in order to have privacy but in order to provide beauty. It's what my guests will see first, as a precursor to the banquet inside. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 07:52:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98Cqq21019587 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 07:52:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C33DF1E60011; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 07:52:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 918901E6000B for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 07:52:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0019549B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 8:46:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13335244 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 08:46:04 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98Ck3726597 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 08:46:03 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h98Ck2DU018916 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 14:46:02 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h98Ck1fo018914 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 14:46:01 +0200 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 14:46:01 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Smaller and Smarter Message-ID: <20031008124601.GC18723@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200310070030.h970Uq705253@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200310070030.h970Uq705253@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander: = On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:27:35 -0700, Peter Kaminski = wrote: = = >The Sacramento Bee has a nice human interest story about our CEO and the = >difference between Silicon Valley in the recent boom and now: = >. = > = >Pete = = I am fascinated by this phrase: = 'said Chuck Erickson, director of a business incubator = in San Jose. "But I don't know if this is all of us drinking our own = Kool-Aid... "' = = clo http://www.wordspy.com/words/drinktheKool-Aid.asp I've seen Pete use it before, "drink the Sony Kool-Aid". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 07:57:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98CvK21019656 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 07:57:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 355161E6001A; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 07:57:15 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02A711E60018 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 07:57:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F4681@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 8:50:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13335390 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 08:50:31 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98CoV726989 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 08:50:31 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-234.gwi.net [216.195.150.234]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h98CoTYp061192 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 08:50:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008084427.00b21ba8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 08:45:06 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: hey Rashmi In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >bonniev: >>You sure do know how to wipe the history off of Internet Explorer! I >>didn't even know there was a way to clean it all the way to the point that >>it won't remember and fill in web addresses you start to type in. > >You can never be too paranoid! I'm sorry, hope you had your favorite >sites bookmarked. I did sort of count on that pull down menu of recently visited sites. But it's nothing I can't recreate. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 07:57:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98CvL21019659 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 07:57:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 86E9F1E6001A; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 07:57:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F6C21E60018 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 07:57:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F4690@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 8:50:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13335396 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 08:50:33 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98CoW726994 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 08:50:32 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-234.gwi.net [216.195.150.234]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h98CoTYr061192 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 08:50:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008084541.00b306b0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 08:50:45 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: BH report In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >the col between Penobscot and Sargent >mountains and walked on to Sargent mountain pond - a bowl of >water surrounded by spruce trees. I'm glad you took that detour. We used to do the route you described each fall when we were tourists here. We'd have a little lunch at Sargent pond. One year we were convinced that we saw whales out in the ocean from the top of Penobscot. One year the little water gully near the top of Penobscot had white caps in it because the wind was so fierce. >the Deer Brook trail. I suspect that >this path isn't used much - there were no cairns, no blue markings >and no one along the way. The trail, such as it was, was rocky, >and steep with rough footing over wet rocks and tree roots. This very much sounds like you lost the trail and simply followed the brook. There is a marked trail but it takes a bit of effort to make sure you stay on it. I think that is one of the trails that is marked at some spots with little pieces of colored metal in the trees. I'm just glad you didn't twist an ankle and have to be carried out! bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 08:42:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98Dgr21020286 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 08:42:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 389681E6001D; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 08:42:48 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0369B1E6001A for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 08:42:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F480C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 9:36:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13339066 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 09:36:04 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98Da4702799 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 09:36:04 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-34.gwi.net [216.195.153.34]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h98Da0Yt068731; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 09:36:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008092629.00b15c98@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 09:26:57 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: The Election In-Reply-To: <001501c38d4a$681af7c0$facadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:15 PM 10/7/2003 -0500, Doris Markland wrote: >My apologies to the Californians, but I >must say this: > >Well, it's a touchy feely state. Maybe >they really wanted a groper. Or, maybe they really need a groper. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 08:42:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98Dgs21020289 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 08:42:54 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5FB081E6001D; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 08:42:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A6ED1E6001A for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 08:42:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F481D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 9:36:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13339070 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 09:36:05 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98Da5702804 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 09:36:05 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-34.gwi.net [216.195.153.34]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h98Da0Yv068731; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 09:36:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008093404.00b2fd10@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 09:35:55 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: BH report In-Reply-To: <000401c38d50$31c4ff80$facadece@0018079268> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:56 PM 10/7/2003 -0500, Doris Markland wrote: >Sounds divine and a good deal for >everyone all around. The Penobscot hike that Rashmi did is probably my favorite long (and strenuous) hike. A few times, we have timed it so that upon returning to Jordan Pond, we have tea and popovers on the lawn at Jordan Pond House. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 10:06:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98F6n21021844 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 10:06:49 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8ED2E1E6003E; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 10:06:43 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56DD61E60035 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 10:06:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F4C5C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 10:59:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13350031 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:00:00 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98Exx726029 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 10:59:59 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-34.gwi.net [216.195.153.34]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h98De7QW028797; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 09:40:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008093708.00b23820@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 09:40:07 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: RI Tremor In-Reply-To: <3F837561.AADF8C04@maynor.net> References: <4.2.2.20031007185924.00af6d30@uclink.berkeley.edu> <109991921.1065564699@TWild.uri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:24 PM 10/7/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >... And I've been in teeny, tiny, almost imperceptible earthquakes in >Memphis and >Starkville -- from the New Madrid fault. That has not made me worry >about my future. I dimly recall reading that the New Madrid fault is expected to become active again. I can't remember any predictions or probabilities, but I do remember that NRC didn't want TVA to site any nukes near it. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 10:15:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98FFR21022011 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 10:15:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 977771E60035; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 10:15:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 646981E6002F for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 10:15:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F4CCC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:08:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13351048 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:08:33 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98F8X728070 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:08:33 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00195A5A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:08:32 -0400 Message-Id: <200310081508.h98F8X728070@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:08:32 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: The Abortion Candidate To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 05:58:58 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >In answer to your question yesterday, Lynne, this column is in today's >Clarion-Ledger, written by a well-respected columnist. Unfortunately, I >think he's dead right: > >http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0310/08/lsid.html > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) And here's the answer about Arnold, Clinton, etc: "Mississippi voters have proven over the last 20 years that the politics of personal scandal isn't particularly effective... despite some of the most shocking sexual allegations imaginable." Republicans who pretended to be shocked by Clinton weren't - just gleeful that they could pull his pants down in public. Republicans have been ignoring infidelity and worse for years, in favor of getting Republicans into office, just like Dems - all the way back, as far as I can tell. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 10:27:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98FRB21022117 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 10:27:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 433911E60045; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 10:27:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D37A1E6003E for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 10:27:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F4D43@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:20:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13352416 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:20:21 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98FKLi31815 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:20:21 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00195AD9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:20:21 -0400 Message-Id: <200310081520.h98FKLi31815@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:20:21 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: BH report To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sounds like you had a good time. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 10:38:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98Fci21022288 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 10:38:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2CFC81E60040; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 10:38:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D82041E6003E for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 10:38:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F4DF1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:31:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13353766 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:31:54 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98FVsi02011 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:31:54 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 2033E2B8CE; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 08:31:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1485A2B56A for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 08:31:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 08:31:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: Steph, Theo Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU are you there? Can you tell me about this site? http://www.hjberk634.freeler.nl/inhoud.htm I mean, these are all drawings, looks like, but is there any story behind them, like all of one place in the Netherlands, or a drawing a week, or some other pattern? Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 10:39:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98FdY21022311 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 10:39:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 74EBE1E60040; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 10:39:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B96B1E6003E for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 10:39:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00195B76@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:32:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13353867 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:32:44 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98FWii02229 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:32:44 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id D95052B8F5; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 08:32:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C63C42B8EA for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 08:32:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 08:32:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: I didn't know Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU how bummed I'd be, when that asshole won and is soon to be governor. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 10:43:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98FhS21022374 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 10:43:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B7D731E60045; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 10:43:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 757701E60040 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 10:43:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F4E1E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:36:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13354470 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:36:39 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98Faai03536 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:36:36 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id B01292B8FB; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 08:36:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1CE72B57C for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 08:36:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 08:36:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I didn't know In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Ann Borkin wrote: > how bummed I'd be, when that asshole won and is soon to be governor. > > Ann Also, I've been bummed by the thought that most people wouldn't vote for the recall or not on the basis of whether they thought RECALL was a good idea, IN PRINCIPLE, in this kind of case. I would be heartened by a lot of no on the recall, yes on Schwartzenegger - haven't seen the count or projected count of course. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 10:50:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98FoO21022503 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 10:50:25 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0C0051E60040; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 10:50:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C58FA1E6003E for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 10:50:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00195BF2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:43:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13355234 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:43:34 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98FhYi05035 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:43:34 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A7GTm-0006c8-KS for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 08 Oct 2003 11:43:59 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008084027.02524008@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 08:44:23 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: I didn't know In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin writes, >I would be heartened by a lot of no on the recall, yes on Schwartzenegger >- haven't seen the count or projected count of course. 99.0% of precints reporting as of now: . Yes votes: 4,246,844 No votes: 3,499,320 Schwarzenegger votes: 3,601,797 Bustamante votes: 2,395,237 If it were an election between Davis and Schwarzenegger (counting No votes and a few of Cruz's as Davis votes), Davis would have won. Part of a post I sent to another list: >Striking map of the geographical distribution of the recall vote: >. > >For those not familiar with the geography, the red part is the big >population centers, the green part is rural areas and farmers. (I am >overgeneralizing sweepingly, of course.) The red part is generally more >Democrat, the green part more Republican. > >The very northernmost red part is rural, too, but with an influx of >marijuana farmers and Bay Area refugees. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 10:55:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98Ft021022551 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 10:55:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DDBAE1E60045; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 10:54:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94E6B1E60040 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 10:54:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F4EB7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:48:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13355611 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:48:11 -0400 Received: from web20506.mail.yahoo.com (web20506.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h98Fm6a06036 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:48:06 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 08 Oct 2003 08:48:05 PDT Message-ID: <20031008154805.56918.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 08:48:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Arnold To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F83E9C8.AD15D0D2@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I must admit that I have not paid great > attention to the details, > but they weren't consensual, were they? But where have all these women been? Did old TERM not boast enough celebrity or notoriety attached to him to make it lucrative to be forthcoming about this years ago? Does that not imply some degree of consensuality? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 10:56:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98Fua21022570 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 10:56:36 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B103F1E60040; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 10:56:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D5EE1E6003E for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 10:56:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F4EC5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:49:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13355751 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:49:47 -0400 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h98Fnka06275 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:49:47 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 08 Oct 2003 08:49:46 PDT Message-ID: <20031008154946.7183.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 08:49:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: No food! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F83ED80.9090107@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Rita Chapman wrote: > Grocery store strikes SUCK. > > -- > Rita Rouvalis Chapman > rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org > http://www.etext.org/~rita > Send Vinnie out for duck. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 11:25:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98GPv21023160 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:25:57 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E15A11E60047; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:25:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A80981E60040 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:25:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F4FD6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 12:19:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13358509 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 12:19:07 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98GJ6a11794 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 12:19:07 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 6361B2B57C; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 09:19:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5760A2B137 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 09:19:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 09:19:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I didn't know In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008084027.02524008@mail.istori.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Peter Kaminski wrote: > Ann Borkin writes, > > >I would be heartened by a lot of no on the recall, yes on Schwartzenegger > >- haven't seen the count or projected count of course. > > 99.0% of precints reporting as of now: . > > Yes votes: 4,246,844 > No votes: 3,499,320 > Schwarzenegger votes: 3,601,797 > Bustamante votes: 2,395,237 I guess what I want to see detailed is the number of people who voted no on the recall AND then voted for Schwarzenegger or McClintock. Because those people, presumably, voted 'no' as a matter of principle, not just as a way to get somebody else in. > > If it were an election between Davis and Schwarzenegger (counting No votes > and a few of Cruz's as Davis votes), Davis would have won. I don't think that's valid (counting 'no' votes as Davis votes. Unless NOBODY voted on principle with regard to recall itself. > Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 11:28:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98GSF21023180 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:28:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 950051E60047; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:28:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58A7F1E60040 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:28:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F4FF8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 12:21:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13358671 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 12:21:26 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98GLPa12095 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 12:21:25 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A7H4Q-0000xL-Rd for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 08 Oct 2003 12:21:51 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008091807.0349fe18@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 09:22:15 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Arnold In-Reply-To: <20031008154805.56918.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> References: <3F83E9C8.AD15D0D2@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber writes, >Does that not imply some degree of consensuality? Uh, yuck. You're some random movie staffer peon. Arnold is rich, powerful, world-renowned, and a fierce bulldog to boot. Do you really think you'd march off to someone and say, "yo, hero-boy over there felt me up, and I want him thrown in jail?" Or do you think you'd shut up, chalk it up to experience, and stay the hell away from him? And if you did the latter, would you want someone to call it "consensual" groping? Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 11:31:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98GVe21023269 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:31:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 820281E6004D; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:31:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DBDC1E60047 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:31:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00195D7B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 12:24:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13358930 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 12:24:44 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98GOfa12639 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 12:24:41 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.72.190]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HMG5BP00.4A9 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 09:19:01 -0700 Message-ID: <3F843A01.C732CD41@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 09:23:29 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Arnold References: <20031008154805.56918.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > But where have all these women been? Keeping silent. For decades. > Did old TERM not > boast enough celebrity or notoriety attached to him to > make it lucrative to be forthcoming about this years > ago? Good question. I have heard "No screwing, no suing" put forth as a reason, but I think its more like there's no statues against some consensual grabass on movie sets. Lord knows Ar-nole has had the bucks all along. And I'd like to point out that the election results were posted on this last week, as I total[ly] recall... JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 11:43:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98Gh021023414 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:43:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2030C1E60058; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:42:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA89C1E60047 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:42:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F5090@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 12:36:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13360181 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 12:36:10 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98GaAa15204 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 12:36:10 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A7HIh-0002Lu-HF for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 08 Oct 2003 12:36:36 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008093503.0349fe18@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 09:36:59 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: I didn't know In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008084027.02524008@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin writes, >I guess what I want to see detailed is the number of people who voted no >on the recall AND then voted for Schwarzenegger or McClintock. Cool stat which unfortunately probably won't be generated. >I don't think that's valid (counting 'no' votes as Davis votes. No, of course not. It's wishful ex post facto daydreaming. :) Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 12:03:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98H3X21023649 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 12:03:33 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AA5F11E6005A; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 12:03:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E2F71E60058 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 12:03:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00195EB6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 12:56:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13362603 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 12:56:43 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98Guga20624 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 12:56:42 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-34.gwi.net [216.195.153.34]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h98GudQW053847 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 12:56:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008125342.00b446b8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 12:56:38 -0400 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: If... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ..it weren't enough that Aahnold got elected, now John Kerry is accusing Dean of being a Yankees fan. Nothing like an exhaustive elaboration of the critical issues. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 12:17:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98HH421023830 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 12:17:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B073F1E6005F; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 12:16:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585971E6005D for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 12:16:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F5235@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 13:10:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13364164 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 13:10:05 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98HA5a24261 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 13:10:05 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h98HA58b006006 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 13:10:05 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h98HA5fC016526 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 13:10:05 -0400 Message-ID: <047b01c38dbf$04879450$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008125342.00b446b8@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: If... Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 13:10:05 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU They became a roaming mob after the game here at URI, starting fires in dumpsters, et al... and I understand they were even rowdier at UMass, Dartmouth. The URI Keystone's are concerned about the Yankees series now... ----- Original Message ----- From: "clyde w. voigtlander" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 12:56 PM Subject: If... > ..it weren't enough that Aahnold got elected, now John Kerry is accusing > Dean of being a Yankees fan. > > Nothing like an exhaustive elaboration of the critical issues. > > cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 12:45:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98Hje21024236 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 12:45:41 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3B7D51E60061; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 12:45:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 099761E60060 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 12:45:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F5366@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 13:38:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13367280 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 13:38:50 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98Hcoa31256 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 13:38:50 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.74.91]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HMG8RA03.DAS for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 10:33:10 -0700 Message-ID: <3F844B9F.E5580636@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 10:38:39 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Arnold, county by county References: <20031008154805.56918.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> <3F843A01.C732CD41@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Oh, now, *this* is interesting! http://vote2003.ss.ca.gov/Returns/gov/mapB.htm JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 13:48:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98Imu21025192 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 13:48:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0BCCF1E6006B; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 13:48:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B39C1E60065 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 13:48:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F5640@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 14:42:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13373844 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 14:42:03 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h98Ig2a12632 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 14:42:03 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 08 Oct 2003 14:42:02 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 14:41:36 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: election returns Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h98Imu21025192 I think the list of returns for all 135 candidates is interesting. The top ten: Arnold Schwarzenegger Cruz M. Bustamante Tom McClintock Peter Miguel Camejo Arianna Huffington Peter V. Ueberroth Larry Flynt Gary Coleman George B. Schwartzman Mary Cook I can't help but wonder if George Schwartzman received some of his 11,000 or so votes through the benefit of alphabetical adjancency and bad aim. BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 14:16:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98JG821025745 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 14:16:08 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 26D721E6006B; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 14:16:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB1AB1E60065 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 14:16:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F5702@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 15:09:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13375950 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 15:09:17 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98J9Ga17599 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 15:09:16 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-34.gwi.net [216.195.153.34]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h98J9EYp024942 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 15:09:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008150700.00ba9a08@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 15:09:31 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: BH report In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Day 2 I drove to Jordan Pond and hiked up Penobscot. The cliffs of >Penobscot Mountain rise steeply from the western shore of Jordan >Pond. The hike started off easy with gentle rises and falls through >mixed hardwood forest. Soon the trail became pretty steep. >There were even some iron rungs on this section as the trail >squeezed thro' narrow cracks in the granite cliff face. This part >was pretty tough and I don't know if I could have done it on >my own. Well, Rashmi, I think I now understand what your problem was. You weren't even on the Penobscot trail. April told you to go on the Jordan Cliffs trail, right? I just hiked with her and she told me that the two of you were going to do Jordan Cliffs but she had to cancel. I've never been on the Jordan Cliffs trail. I should have added that one to my list of trails not to do alone. I'm glad you survived. Were there little wooden bridges on the trail that you did?? If so, that was definitely the Jordan Cliffs trail. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 15:05:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98K5r21026401 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 15:05:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EE5D61E6006C; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 15:05:45 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B92E81E60066 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 15:05:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F58EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 15:59:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13380846 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 15:59:02 -0400 Received: from web20501.mail.yahoo.com (web20501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.136]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h98Jx1a27718 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 15:59:01 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 08 Oct 2003 12:59:00 PDT Message-ID: <20031008195900.77652.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 12:59:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: BH report To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008150700.00ba9a08@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Were there > little wooden bridges > on the trail that you did?? If so, that was > definitely the Jordan Cliffs > trail. I thought you were going to ask if there were little wooden crosses marking the last resting places of random hikers. > > > bonnie __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 15:17:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98KHN21026612 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 15:17:24 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 52EE01E60071; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 15:17:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20A681E6006E for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 15:17:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F5942@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:10:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13381583 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:10:32 -0400 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98KAWa29818 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:10:32 -0400 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h98KARsV6561936 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 15:10:27 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 15:10:27 -0500 (CDT) From: poor old johnny ray X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: election returns In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.0.4.77969 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU BrP: >I can't help but wonder if George Schwartzman >received some of his 11,000 or so votes I thought the same thing, and wondered if Pat Buchanan got any votes... >alphabetical adjancency and bad aim. Was the ballot alphabetized? Hey Pete: How would you figure McClintock's (sp?) votes into your Davis vs. Arnold calculus? Too few to make a difference? How about all the votes that went to the marginal and yahoo candidates? Would they have been more likely to go Arnold's way (and if so, again, too few to matter), or would those folks just have stayed home? Finally, in regards to the link JMW posted; with the exception of that little chunk that I take to be Marin County (hi Martin Mull!), the anti-AS areas had below-average turnout. Again, enough to make a difference? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 15:32:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98KWY21026952 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 15:32:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DD7BE1E60074; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 15:32:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E8D71E6006E for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 15:32:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F5A00@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:25:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13383373 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:25:43 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98KPga00472 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:25:42 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h98KPeDU019754 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:25:40 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h98KPeFq019752 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:25:40 +0200 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:25:39 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Steph, Theo Message-ID: <20031008202539.GA19705@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin: = are you there? = = Can you tell me about this site? = http://www.hjberk634.freeler.nl/inhoud.htm = = I mean, these are all drawings, looks like, but is there any story behind = them, like all of one place in the Netherlands, or a drawing a week, or = some other pattern? = = Ann Tekeningen van Meppel = drawings of Meppel (*)Tekeningen uit het boek: "Meppeler joden tijdens de tweede wereldoorlog" door Thijs Rinsema, dat zal uitkomen in april 2004 Drawings from the book: Jews from Meppel during the second world war, by Thijs Rinsema, that will be published in April 2004 The long list is of street/place names in the city. Meppel is about an hour and a half north east from Amsterdam. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 15:45:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98KjK21027104 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 15:45:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EAE741E600CD; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 15:45:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B351E600B5 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 15:45:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F5A81@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:38:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13383790 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:38:28 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98KSRa01459 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:28:27 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h98KSFSb018900 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:28:16 -0400 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:28:27 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: report on the brat (aka Maria) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The brat (she can be a REAL brat) refused to come in for her trip to the farrier last week. As a result, we switched farriers so that she can see the one who comes to the barn (much less expensive and much less tim-consuming - we'll see how it works out) for at least the winter months. She had an appt with her new farrier, Bill, this morning. I went out to bring her in, only to learn that two barn employees had already tried and failed (they should not have tried - thet usually just makes her mad, especially the day after she has shots and worming, as she did yesterday). I tried and failed - she was really in a snit. Teenie, the barn owner, tried and failed (for the first time ever). We gave up. Then Mary - who, of course, nevere rides Maria - walked out with Teenie and managed to catch her! Lordy, what I - we - go through for that mare! Net result - I will save about $85 per month. This is very good right now, while I am still recovering from my condo purchase. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 15:55:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98Kt021027253 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 15:55:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EDD091E600CF; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 15:54:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954791E600CD for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 15:54:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F5ADC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:48:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13385402 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:48:09 -0400 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:5tsN9bQMjkn0Gam0PL/IpvakBkYQgBBL@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98Km8a05609 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:48:08 -0400 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A4D9305DB for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 13:48:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A0352332B for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 13:48:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3F844B9F.E5580636@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> References: <20031008154805.56918.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> <3F843A01.C732CD41@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Who is the patron saint of shapleless jumpers? X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Neal-Stephenson: Paper is a really advanced technology Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 13:48:01 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Arnold, county by county Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Oh, now, *this* is interesting! > >http://vote2003.ss.ca.gov/Returns/gov/mapB.htm > >JMW Only to someone not already familiar with California demographics. The only thing interesting about it is that the county of Los Angeles isn't red too, and that's easily attributable to the fact that Arnold is a Favorite Son there. Pretty much every ballot issue that falls neatly into the conservative/liberal paradigm generates a map nearly identical to this one. The two most populous areas of California -- the SF Bay Area, and the LA area -- are solidly liberal, and the entire rest of the state (greater in land mass, but not as populous) is solidly conservative. Two small but densely populated islands of liberalism in a sea of conservatism: such is California. You can bet your bippy that if Schwarzenegger had been from, say, Fresno, the returns from Los Angeles would have mirrored those from San Francisco, and the recall would have gone the other way. But he isn't, and it didn't. Ken Miller Political Correspondent The Lostin Times From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 16:46:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98Lk221028203 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:46:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8952E1E600D1; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:45:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51D071E600CF for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:45:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F5D42@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:39:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13391113 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:39:10 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98Lcca14473 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:38:38 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A7M1Q-00047A-L0 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 08 Oct 2003 17:39:04 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008141619.036fedf0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 14:38:12 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: election returns In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU poor old johnny ray writes, >Was the ballot alphabetized? Random, but grouped by initial letters. Additionally, the order of the letters is rotated per state Assembly district. >Too few to make a difference? Generally, although the whole "what if" thing is kinda specious anyway. I do think Boo's conclusion that Arnold being a home town boy in LA swung it makes sense, though. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 16:46:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98Lk421028206 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:46:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A3CFC1E600CD; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:45:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E4091E600CF for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:45:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00196A0A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:39:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13391152 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:39:11 -0400 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98LdBa14563 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:39:11 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h98Lcp7Q028315 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 14:38:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F8483C3.1000805@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 16:38:11 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: No food! References: <20031008154946.7183.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Rita Chapman wrote: > >>Grocery store strikes SUCK. >> >>-- >>Rita Rouvalis Chapman >>rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org >>http://www.etext.org/~rita >> >> > Send Vinnie out for duck. Why would I send a setter out for waterfowl? -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 16:56:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98LuI21028445 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:56:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7924D1E600D6; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:56:10 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 468151E600D1 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:56:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F5DBC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:49:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13392179 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:49:26 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98LnQa16514 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:49:26 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-34.gwi.net [216.195.153.34]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h98LnMYr052214; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:49:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008174745.00b487e8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 17:49:26 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: No food! In-Reply-To: <3F8483C3.1000805@swbell.net> References: <20031008154946.7183.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:38 PM 10/8/2003 -0500, Rita Chapman wrote: >Lynne Weber wrote: >>Send Vinnie out for duck. > > > Why would I send a setter out for waterfowl? Good question. Duck doesn't need a setter---it (in some cases) needs a sauce. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 17:27:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98MRt21029168 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:27:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 27FBB1E600D6; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:27:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1ED21E600D1 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:27:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F5EBA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:21:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13394692 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:21:03 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98ML3a21115 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:21:03 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.174.67]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031008222103.FKNR16928.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:21:03 -0400 Message-ID: <3F848DCB.3F48FB9A@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 17:20:59 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: furniture placement References: <3F83E6A4.C9F399A@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Yes, outside my door. But not in the - in the hallway, silly. So you have to go into a communal door and then a hall before getting to your own door? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 17:29:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98MTe21029192 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:29:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E94581E600D6; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:29:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE1B21E600D1 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:29:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F5EBF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:22:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13394756 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:22:48 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98MMla21370 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:22:47 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.174.67]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031008222248.FLGZ16928.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:22:48 -0400 Message-ID: <3F848E33.66394E16@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 17:22:43 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Smaller and Smarter References: <200310070030.h970Uq705253@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20031008124601.GC18723@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This subject header reminds me of something I just read in e-mail: > 1. The sport of choice for the urban poor is BASKETBALL. > > 2. The sport of choice for maintenance level employees is BOWLING. > > 3. The sport of choice for front-line workers is FOOTBALL. > > 4. The sport of choice for supervisors is BASEBALL. > > 5. The sport of choice for middle management is TENNIS. > > 6. The sport of choice for corporate officers is GOLF. > > AMAZING CONCLUSION: > The higher you are in the corporate structure, the smaller your > balls become. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 17:30:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98MUl21029248 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:30:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EAE761E600D1; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:30:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74EA81E600B8 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:30:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00196B6C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:23:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13394811 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:23:54 -0400 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:raD2wXzZDOxQ5YCvCer3/rF6jCV9q/9t@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98MNra21487 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:23:54 -0400 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F19DC300CD for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 15:23:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F5D23830 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 15:23:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Who is the patron saint of shapleless jumpers? X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Neal-Stephenson: Paper is a really advanced technology Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 15:23:43 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: election returns Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 1:10 PM -0700 10/8/03, poor old johnny ray wrote: >BrP: >>I can't help but wonder if George Schwartzman >>received some of his 11,000 or so votes > >I thought the same thing, and wondered if >Pat Buchanan got any votes... Let's not forget Richard Simmons, Edward Kennedy, Michael Jackson, Bob Edwards, and Robert Dole. inter alia. >Was the ballot alphabetized? No. There was a pseudo-randomization process. For details, chase this URL: http://www.ss.ca.gov/elections/statewide_special_random_alpha.htm By coincidence, Michael Jackson was the first candidate on my district's ballot. >Hey Pete: How would you figure McClintock's (sp?) >votes into your Davis vs. Arnold calculus? > >Too few to make a difference? I'm not Pete, nor do I play him on TV, but I'll take a stab. Since no one could vote for Davis as a replacement candidate, there is a certain logical sense in assuming that some small proportion of the Bustamante voters would have voted for Davis, given the chance. (Of course, if Davis could have put his name on the replacement ballot, Bustamante's name wouldn't even have been there.) However, the people who voted for McClintock did so in spite of a warning from many Republican leaders that a vote for McClintock was a vote for Bustamante. If McClintock hadn't been on the ballot, they certainly wouldn't have voted for Bustamante or Davis, but I'll bet they wouldn't have voted for Schwarzenegger, either: he is much too liberal for them. It's common wisdom that in an ordinary election, he would never have made it past the Republican primary. >How about all the votes that went to the >marginal and yahoo candidates? Would >they have been more likely to go Arnold's >way (and if so, again, too few to matter), >or would those folks just have stayed >home? I started doing some attempted math on this, but it'll have to wait until later. My gut feeling is that if this had been a standard incumbent-versus-challenger-plus-minor-party-candidates election, it would have been too close to call until after the recount, and of course in such an election every minor-candidate voter could make a difference in the outcome. As it was, however, the marginal and yahoo candidates are all over the map, politically, and it's hard to say which way their votes would have come down in their absence. Also, I'm sure that a lot of people, including myself, voted for one of the yahoo candidates mostly as a symbolic gesture. (If there had been a chance that Bustamante might win, I might have held my nose and voted for him, but I figured that since I was wasting my vote anyway (the recall vote being the only one that mattered), I might as well vote for someone whom I approved of.) Anyway, the 125 candidates who received less that 10,000 votes each had an aggregate of 167,736 votes between them, or about 2% of the total of votes cast, so they wouldn't have had any impact unless the vote were Florida-style close. The marginal candidates (if you allow my definition of "marginal" as those who received less than 1 million but more than 10,000 votes) is more problematic. In a normal election, Camejo would have been on the ballot anyway as the Green Party candidate, others would have participated in their respective party primaries, and still others wouldn't have been anywhere near a ballot. The total number of votes for this group is 324,914, or about 4% of the total of votes cast. In the last governor's race, 4.9% was the margin of difference between Gray Davis and his Republican opponent, Bill Simon, with 10.3% of the votes going to third-party candidates and 3.4% of the voters in that election choosing no candidate. I suppose the short version of the last three paragraphs is this: *every* California election has a significant number of people who vote for non-major candidates, and this election was no different in that regard. What was different about this election was that this time, the media paid attention to some of those other candidates. Ken Miller Political Correspondent The Lostin Times From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 17:32:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98MWr21029307 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:32:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 682AE1E600E5; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:32:45 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33FF81E600D1 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:32:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F5EC8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:26:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13395026 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:26:01 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98MQ1a22043 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:26:01 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.174.67]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031008222601.FMTO16928.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:26:01 -0400 Message-ID: <3F848EF5.CAB3D73C@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 17:25:57 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: RI Tremor References: <4.2.2.20031007185924.00af6d30@uclink.berkeley.edu> <109991921.1065564699@TWild.uri.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031008093708.00b23820@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > I dimly recall reading that the New Madrid fault is expected to become > active again. I can't remember any predictions or probabilities, but I do > remember that NRC didn't want TVA to site any nukes near it. There was some kind of big publicity about it several years ago, iirc -- big publicity in its general vicinity, I mean. I can't remember now what the publicity said. Starkville is in one of the outermost circles of from it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 17:38:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98McC21029395 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:38:12 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 776C31E600D1; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:38:03 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4393E1E600B8 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:38:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F5EE8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:31:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13395347 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:31:12 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98MVCa22714 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:31:12 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.174.67]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031008223112.FOWM16928.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:31:12 -0400 Message-ID: <3F84902C.E6C4BC1E@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 17:31:08 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Abortion Candidate References: <200310081508.h98F8X728070@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >In answer to your question yesterday, Lynne, this column is in today's > >Clarion-Ledger, written by a well-respected columnist. Unfortunately, I > >think he's dead right: > > > >http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0310/08/lsid.html > > And here's the answer about Arnold, Clinton, etc: > "Mississippi voters have proven over the last 20 years that the politics of > personal scandal isn't particularly effective... despite some of the most > shocking sexual allegations imaginable." > > Republicans who pretended to be shocked by Clinton weren't - just gleeful > that they could pull his pants down in public. Republicans have been > ignoring infidelity and worse for years, in favor of getting Republicans > into office, just like Dems - all the way back, as far as I can tell. I think you're right in general, although I really do think there are people out there who believe that illicit sex in the White House is more than illicit wars. Re the "shocking sexual allegations" mentioned above, that was some rather juicy stuff, which was pretty well confirmed as true, though I think technically it stayed at the level of "allegations." The Gov was going out at night and picking up black transvestites to shack up with. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 17:44:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98Mi621029483 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:44:06 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C451C1E600D1; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:43:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E80A1E600B8 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:43:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F5F01@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:37:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13395636 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:37:14 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98MbDa23473 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:37:13 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.174.67]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031008223714.FRCQ16928.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:37:14 -0400 Message-ID: <3F849195.263455A0@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 17:37:09 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Arnold References: <20031008154805.56918.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > But where have all these women been? Did old TERM not > boast enough celebrity or notoriety attached to him to > make it lucrative to be forthcoming about this years > ago? > > Does that not imply some degree of consensuality? Good question. I guess it might depend on whether these women were trying to make money -- as in looking for something lucrative to turn their experience into. Or maybe they didn't think that that was a possibility. Maybe it's naive to think that some people would consider principles over money -- i.e., that they didn't try to cash in, that they didn't think it would mean anything to accuse a movie star of groping, but that they did not want that person to be a . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 17:51:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98MpJ21029605 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:51:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BBA011E600D1; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:51:10 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 821651E600B8 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:51:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F5F3F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:44:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13396090 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:44:26 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98MiQa24213 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:44:26 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.174.67]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031008224427.FTWY16928.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:44:27 -0400 Message-ID: <3F849346.F97FD13D@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 17:44:22 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: BH report References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008150700.00ba9a08@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > April told you to go on the Jordan Cliffs > trail, right? I just hiked with her and she told me that the two of you > were going to do Jordan Cliffs but she had to cancel. Did she cancel because of word that someone was sitting on her flowers? I guess those impatiens are gone by this time of year in Maine, aren't they. Do people still sit there beside openness to the outside? What about in January? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 17:59:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98Mxg21029779 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:59:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A406E1E600F9; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:59:33 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D51B1E600F1 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:59:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F5F51@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:52:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13396584 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:52:49 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98Mqna25099 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:52:49 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.174.67]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031008225250.FWZA16928.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:52:50 -0400 Message-ID: <3F84953D.FF29A4CA@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 17:52:45 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: No food! References: <20031008154946.7183.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> <3F8483C3.1000805@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > > Send Vinnie out for duck. > > Why would I send a setter out for waterfowl? What do Irish Setters hunt? I had it stuck in my head that they were very versatile hunters, hunting pretty much anything. And this reminds me that River, the dog found by the skiier in the river, is still at the shelter. I went by there today because there was an e-mail call for supplies. I went to Kroger, because of a sale mentioned in the e-mail, and bought several big cartons of bleach and a huge carton of paper towels, which I took by the shelter. While there, I inquired about River and Bridge. Bridge has been adopted, but River is still there. I said, "I DON'T WANT TO SEE HIM!" and fled. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 18:11:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98NBk21030020 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:11:46 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ABD621E600F0; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:11:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78C401E600D1 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:11:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F5F7F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:04:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13397078 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:04:30 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98N4Ua26019 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:04:30 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h98N4QJl024149 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:04:28 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001e01c38df1$9abe3fa0$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008141619.036fedf0@mail.istori.com> Subject: Re: Re: election returns Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:12:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > poor old johnny ray writes, > > >Was the ballot alphabetized? > > Random, but grouped by initial letters. Additionally, the order of the > letters is rotated per state Assembly district. > > >Too few to make a difference? > > Generally, although the whole "what if" thing is kinda specious anyway. > > I do think Boo's conclusion that Arnold being a home town boy in LA swung > it makes sense, though. > > Pete I was just listening to NPR in the car, and the newscaster (or whatever) was analyzing the results and said they'd found that the main factor behind the voting was not the celebrity factor but that overwhelmingly people wanted change. He said also that Gray Davis failed to draw numbers in traditional Democratic groups such as minorities and labor unions. This came as a surprise and underscored people's wish for change. Do I read that "Anything would be better than this"? - D. M. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 18:19:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98NJH21030194 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:19:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2D30C1E60101; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:19:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1EF71E60100 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:19:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F5FB1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:12:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13397489 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:12:24 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98NCOa26728 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:12:24 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.174.67]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031008231232.HZAX12521.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:12:32 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8499D4.224FF85@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 18:12:20 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: election returns References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bookrat wrote: > wouldn't have voted for Bustamante or Davis, but I'll bet they wouldn't > have voted for Schwarzenegger, either: he is much too liberal for them. There was an (moderately) interesting editorial somewhere this morning -- I can't remember where -- about possible hope for the country overall by this election -- that Arnold might now become a nationally and thus wreak a bit of havoc with the neocon agenda the Republican Party has been into. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 18:27:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98NRK21030291 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:27:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6EC5F1E60101; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:27:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280C81E60100 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:27:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F5FF1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:20:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13397815 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:20:27 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98NKRa27296 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:20:27 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.174.67]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031008232035.ICHJ12521.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:20:35 -0400 Message-ID: <3F849BB7.D59D8434@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 18:20:23 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: election returns References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008141619.036fedf0@mail.istori.com> <001e01c38df1$9abe3fa0$facadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > I was just listening to NPR in the car, and > the newscaster (or whatever) was analyzing > the results and said they'd found that the main > factor behind the voting was not the celebrity > factor but that overwhelmingly people wanted > change. He said also that Gray Davis failed to > draw numbers in traditional Democratic groups > such as minorities and labor unions. This came as a surprise and > underscored people's > wish for change. Do I read that "Anything > would be better than this"? I don't know whether what you heard was the same thing I heard a few hours ago on NPR, but it was similar. The point was definitely made that it was an "anything is better than this" statement. Looking back again at what you wrote, though, I'm thinking it probably wasn't the same thing you heard since what I heard said that the celebrity factor was primary -- that it led lots of younger people to register to vote and lots of various other people who were not usually interested in politics to vote. But it did say that there was a strong statement of a need for change. It went into the who voted for whom a bit, saying that, as expected, pretty much all Republicans voted for Arnold and saying that Democrats with little education did. It also said that a rather large number of Hispanics did, though not a majority. The majority of African Americans voted for no-recall, as did the majority of well-educated Democrats. I don't know where those assessments came from -- as in how it was determined what kinds of people voted for whom. That was presumably said either before I started the car or after I turned it off -- exit polls, I assume. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 18:42:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98NgO21030505 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:42:24 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2BD161E6010B; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:42:15 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8CAD1E60101 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:42:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F602F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:35:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13398698 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:35:31 -0400 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:5hJd5lZZ7DdnGsH7f6A6ntKjqUU9Xx++@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98NZUa29163 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:35:31 -0400 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F8CF30575 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:35:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2008D2382E for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:35:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001e01c38df1$9abe3fa0$facadece@0018079268> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008141619.036fedf0@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Who is the patron saint of shapleless jumpers? X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Neal-Stephenson: Paper is a really advanced technology Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:35:17 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: election returns Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I was just listening to NPR in the car, and >the newscaster (or whatever) was analyzing >the results and said they'd found that the main >factor behind the voting was not the celebrity >factor but that overwhelmingly people wanted >change. 55 percent is a clear majority, but is it "overwhelming"? Schwarzenegger won't be able to pass a budget next June if the best he can get is 55 percent. That said, this election has demonstrated that the it's-the-economy-stupid factor is nonpartisan. >He said also that Gray Davis failed to >draw numbers in traditional Democratic groups >such as minorities and labor unions. This came as a surprise To whom did it come as a surprise? Certainly not anyone who'd been halfway paying attention. Davis will go down in California history as The Great Non-Communicator, and among the people he hadn't been communicating with were his political base, who in return had already started abandoning him before last November's election. >and >underscored people's >wish for change. Do I read that "Anything >would be better than this"? > > - D. M. As a friend of mine says: "Any time you find yourself in a situation where it seems that things can't possibly get worse, rest assured -- they can." The current economic situation in California is terrible only when compared to the dotcom years. Ten years ago, we would have thought a 6.6% unemployment rate was as good as it gets. (6.6% is the seasonally adjusted rate for August 2003; in August 1993, the rate was 9.3%.) Ken Miller Political Correspondent The Lostin Times From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 18:43:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98NhI21030525 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:43:18 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 46F2A1E60101; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:43:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 081D01E60100 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:43:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F605D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:36:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13398854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:36:25 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98NaPa29586 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:36:25 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A7NrQ-0004h8-4h for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 08 Oct 2003 19:36:52 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008161555.03066620@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 16:37:14 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: election returns In-Reply-To: <001e01c38df1$9abe3fa0$facadece@0018079268> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008141619.036fedf0@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland writes, >This came as a surprise and underscored people's wish for change. Do I >read that "Anything would be better than this"? More like "it's time for something else." I'm not convinced people thought they were voting for something better -- just voting *against* the current situation. Barbara O'Connor, director of the Institute for the Study of Politics and Media at California State University-Sacramento: ""Voters are really angry with politicians. They don't think their politicians are representing them well and Gray Davis became the poster boy for that." Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 18:57:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98Nv721030781 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:57:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7CFBD1E60101; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:56:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D3C1E60100 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:56:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F6081@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:50:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13399590 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:50:14 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98NoEa31606 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:50:14 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.174.67]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031008235020.IZHI28442.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:50:20 -0400 Message-ID: <3F84A2B2.71AFFCE5@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 18:50:10 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: election returns References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008141619.036fedf0@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bookrat wrote: > >He said also that Gray Davis failed to > >draw numbers in traditional Democratic groups > >such as minorities and labor unions. This came as a surprise > > To whom did it come as a surprise? Certainly not anyone who'd been halfway > paying attention. Davis will go down in California history as The Great > Non-Communicator, and among the people he hadn't been communicating with > were his political base, who in return had already started abandoning him > before last November's election. What I heard on NPR said that almost all African Americans voted for him (voted no to the recall). So that minority was drawn to him. Surprise was expressed re Hispanics because of some voting for Arnold instead of for Bustamante. > As a friend of mine says: > > "Any time you find yourself in a situation where it seems that things can't > possibly get worse, rest assured -- they can." If I weren't feeling especially lazy, I would google for Edgar's words in "King Lear" on this subject -- it was when he had been already thinking that his life was shit and then discovered that his father's eyes had been gouged out. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 18:59:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h98Nx421030853 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:59:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5E2C51E60101; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:58:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AFFE1E60100 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:58:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F6094@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:52:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13399659 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:52:11 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98NqBa31879 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:52:11 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-34.gwi.net [216.195.153.34]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h98Nq7QW005296; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:52:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008194338.00b47610@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 19:47:36 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Smaller and Smarter In-Reply-To: <3F848E33.66394E16@maynor.net> References: <200310070030.h970Uq705253@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20031008124601.GC18723@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:22 PM 10/8/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > > AMAZING CONCLUSION: > > The higher you are in the corporate structure, the smaller your > > balls become. Corollary: And the more trivial the decisions become. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 19:00:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9900121030915 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:00:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E94811E60101; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:59:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF4381E60100 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:59:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F6088@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:53:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13399690 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:53:08 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98Nr7a31948 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:53:07 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.174.67]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031008235313.JAKT28442.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:53:13 -0400 Message-ID: <3F84A35F.2C7D2E0C@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 18:53:03 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: election returns References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008141619.036fedf0@mail.istori.com> <3F84A2B2.71AFFCE5@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > "Any time you find yourself in a situation where it seems that things can't > > possibly get worse, rest assured -- they can." > > If I weren't feeling especially lazy, I would google for Edgar's words > in "King Lear" on this subject -- it was when he had been already > thinking that his life was shit and then discovered that his father's > eyes had been gouged out. I roused myself from laziness for a quick googling for the quotation. Edgar says, "the worst is not So long as we can say 'This is the worst.' " -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 19:02:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9902l21030988 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:02:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BF8991E60100; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:02:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B4421E60067 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:02:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F609C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:55:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13399424 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:55:55 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98Njta30979 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:45:55 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h98NjeSb009944 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:45:43 -0400 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:45:51 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: furniture placement In-Reply-To: <3F848DCB.3F48FB9A@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3F83E6A4.C9F399A@maynor.net> <3F848DCB.3F48FB9A@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >So you have to go into a communal door and then a hall before getting to >your own door? Well, one of two. I may pause in the ground floor parlor of my building (1E) - I did tonight to look at some of my mail after I removed it from my mailbox (locked and inside the secure building). Then I take the elevator to the 3rd floor. Then I approach my and enter my Normally, as tonight, that is after I drive into our secure covered parking area located beside our building and park my vehicle in my 24/7 reserved parking spot (where I may also keep my bicycle, a shopping cart, etc.), Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 19:02:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9902u21030996 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:02:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E72021E60100; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:02:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B04B91E60067 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:02:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F609D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:56:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13399864 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:56:03 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h98Nu2a32295 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:56:02 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h98Nu28b020974 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:56:02 -0400 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h98Nu2fC015854 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:56:02 -0400 Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 19:53:55 -0400 From: Terry Wild To: Words-L Subject: Thanks, Rita Message-ID: <188127625.1065642835@TWild.uri.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Your mentioning of David Sedaris' book Me Talk Pretty One Day prompted me to get it at the library yesterday. Each of the 3 chapters I read caused me to burst out laughing. Are his other books as fun? Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 19:07:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9907U21031066 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:07:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B50A21E60100; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:07:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7967F1E60067 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:07:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F60D4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:00:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13400103 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:00:37 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9900ba00353 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:00:37 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-34.gwi.net [216.195.153.34]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9900YQW006245; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:00:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008194903.00b4e390@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 19:55:46 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: BH report In-Reply-To: <3F849346.F97FD13D@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008150700.00ba9a08@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:44 PM 10/8/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Did she cancel because of word that someone was sitting on her flowers? No, she just got busy. >I guess those impatiens are gone by this time of year in Maine, aren't >they. Do people still sit there beside openness to the outside? What >about in January? Yes, the impatiens largely are gone---the first good frost usually gets them. As a matter of fact, today I stopped in there for coffee and sat at the first table on the side on which the wordslers congregated (and Karen launched her botanical assault); it was in the low 60s, no wind, and very pleasant in the "open." Dimitri and I had a long conversation. January isn't an issue; they will close about the end of this month. The place is not insulated and poorly heated; moreover, there won't be anyone around who doesn't already have their own internet access at home/business. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 19:08:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9908S21031074 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:08:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 43AE91E60100; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:08:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 090191E60067 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:08:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F60CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:01:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13400155 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:01:35 -0400 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9901Za00443 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:01:35 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9901WkB020517 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:01:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F84A521.5050907@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 19:00:33 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: No food! References: <20031008154946.7183.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> <3F8483C3.1000805@swbell.net> <3F84953D.FF29A4CA@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Rita Chapman wrote: > > >>>Send Vinnie out for duck. >>> >> Why would I send a setter out for waterfowl? >> > > What do Irish Setters hunt? I had it stuck in my head that they were > very versatile hunters, hunting pretty much anything. Upland games birds -- pheasant, quail, woodcock, etc. Setters generally aren't much for swimming. Setters are a pointing dog. You can't point in the water. Same as Viszlas. I should get a picture of Vinnie on point. > And this reminds me that River, the dog found by the skiier in the > river, is still at the shelter. I went by there today because there was > an e-mail call for supplies. I went to Kroger, because of a sale > mentioned in the e-mail, and bought several big cartons of bleach and a > huge carton of paper towels, which I took by the shelter. While there, > I inquired about River and Bridge. Bridge has been adopted, but River > is still there. I said, "I DON'T WANT TO SEE HIM!" and fled. I am envious of your ability to go to a grocery store. Luckily Whole Foods isn't unionized, so I can pick some stuff up there, but it will cost me a fortune to feed us that way. Usually I just get special stuff there. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 19:08:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9908m21031077 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:08:48 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 13B1A1E60100; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:08:39 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4B461E60067 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:08:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00196D67@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:01:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13400166 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:01:55 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9901ta00477 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:01:55 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00196D5E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:01:55 -0400 Message-Id: <200310090001.h9901ta00477@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:01:55 -0400 From: Neal Traven Subject: Re: election returns To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU There are those who opine that the CA results bode ill for the current (mal)administration in Washington, that displeasure with what is perceived to be clueless, incompetent, heartless, crumbling governance can strike again. Well, gotta hit the road so that I can go listen to Paul Krugman over at UDub this evening... neal From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 19:09:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9909h21031081 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:09:43 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0D4841E60100; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:09:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE44C1E60067 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:09:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00196D64@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:02:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13400216 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:02:44 -0400 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9902ia00562 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:02:44 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9902fkB021704 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:02:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F84A566.80004@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 19:01:42 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: furniture placement References: <3F83E6A4.C9F399A@maynor.net> <3F848DCB.3F48FB9A@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Is it a little old lady thing to be so fixated on "secure"? Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >>So you have to go into a communal door and then a hall before getting to >>your own door? >> > > Well, one of two. I may pause in the ground floor parlor of my building > (1E) - I did tonight to look at some of my mail after I removed it from my > mailbox (locked and inside the secure building). Then I take the elevator > to the 3rd floor. Then I approach my and enter my > Normally, as tonight, that is after I drive into our secure covered > parking area located beside our building and park my vehicle in my > 24/7 reserved parking spot (where I may also keep my bicycle, a shopping > cart, etc.), > > Bethany > > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 19:10:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h990Ar21031134 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:10:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8AD171E60100; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:10:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 159571E60067 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:10:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F60DA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:03:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13400290 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:03:57 -0400 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9903va00691 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:03:57 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9903skB023128 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:03:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F84A5AF.9060809@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 19:02:55 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Thanks, Rita References: <188127625.1065642835@TWild.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Terry Wild wrote: > Your mentioning of David Sedaris' book Me Talk Pretty One Day prompted me > to get it at the library yesterday. Each of the 3 chapters I read caused > me to burst out laughing. > > Are his other books as fun? I believe Richard mentioned it on-list first. Yes, the rest are just as fun. You must read The Santaland Diaries. I nearly choked to death laughing. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 19:11:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h990Br21031144 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:11:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 343951E60100; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:11:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F071E60067 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:11:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00196D79@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:05:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13400338 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:05:00 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h99050a00805 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:05:00 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-34.gwi.net [216.195.153.34]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9904wYp076732 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:04:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008200237.00bb7da0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 20:05:16 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: BH report In-Reply-To: <3F849346.F97FD13D@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008150700.00ba9a08@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Did she cancel because of word that someone was sitting on her flowers? Not sure. She just told me that she got very busy. >I guess those impatiens are gone by this time of year in Maine, aren't >they. Do people still sit there beside openness to the outside? What >about in January? -- Natalie Impatiens probably did succumb to frost the other night. Mums are the flower of choice at this time of year. The tables at the Internet Cafe are no longer open to the outside because the plastic sides are zipped down. This afternoon, though, Dimitri might have opened them up. It was warm in the sun. The Opera House/Internet Cafe worries not about January. It closes for the season at the end of October. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 19:20:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h990KK21031526 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:20:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C4B181E60113; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:20:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 914DD1E6010D for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:20:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F6120@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:13:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13400937 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:13:27 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h990DRa01752 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:13:27 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.174.67]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031009001334.MBUA1769.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:13:34 -0400 Message-ID: <3F84A823.DA169C52@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 19:13:23 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: BH report References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008150700.00ba9a08@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031008194903.00b4e390@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > launched her botanical assault); it was in the low 60s, no wind, and very > pleasant in the "open." Dimitri and I had a long conversation. Was Dimitri the young man I had a nice conversation with? I'm guessing not since I don't think he was named Dimitri. But maybe he was. He's from Pennsylvania, iirc, and we talked about some of his long drives through the USA. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 19:24:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h990O121031613 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:24:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6E76E1E6010D; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:23:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3387E1E60102 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:23:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00196DBE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:17:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13401098 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:17:06 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h990H2a02031 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:17:02 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.174.67]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031009001709.MDMY1769.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:17:09 -0400 Message-ID: <3F84A8FA.19463826@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 19:16:58 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: No food! References: <20031008154946.7183.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> <3F8483C3.1000805@swbell.net> <3F84953D.FF29A4CA@maynor.net> <3F84A521.5050907@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > I am envious of your ability to go to a grocery store. I didn't buy any groceries, though. Because I was going to head to the Shelter and didn't know how long it might take me to carry the bags and boxes of stuff into the Shelter office (took not long at all because a nice young man was there and did most of the lifting/hauling), I did not buy any food items. Just bought lots and lots of bleach and a good many paper-towel rolls. > Luckily Whole Foods isn't unionized, so I can pick some You should move to Mississippi. Unions aren't . Never have been and quite likely never will be. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 19:25:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h990P121031631 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:25:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A93831E6010D; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:24:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 765081E60102 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:24:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F6147@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:18:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13401141 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:18:08 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h990I8a02145 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:18:08 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h990I88b021457 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:18:08 -0400 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h990I8fC018780 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:18:08 -0400 Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 20:16:00 -0400 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Thanks, Rita Message-ID: <189453578.1065644160@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <3F84A5AF.9060809@swbell.net> References: <188127625.1065642835@TWild.uri.edu> <3F84A5AF.9060809@swbell.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --On Wednesday, October 08, 2003 7:02 PM -0500 Rita Chapman wrote: > I believe Richard mentioned it on-list first. Yes, the rest > are just as fun. You must read The Santaland Diaries. I > nearly choked to death laughing. > > Thanks, I'll get that next. And a hearty thanks to Richard! Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 19:28:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h990ST21031689 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:28:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5EA571E60113; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:28:20 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DEA91E6010D for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:28:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F6148@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:21:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13401313 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:21:36 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h990Laa02461 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:21:36 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-34.gwi.net [216.195.153.34]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h990LYYp080282 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:21:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008202021.00b22eb0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 20:21:52 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: BH report In-Reply-To: <3F84A823.DA169C52@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008150700.00ba9a08@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031008194903.00b4e390@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Was Dimitri the young man I had a nice conversation with? I'm guessing >not since I don't think he was named Dimitri. But maybe he was. He's >from Pennsylvania, iirc, and we talked about some of his long drives >through the USA. -- Natalie Yes, that's him. He was born in Russia. But he did grow up in Pennsylvania. He is one of the few employees that has made it through the whole season. April just fired the tenth one last week. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 19:28:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h990Sb21031696 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:28:37 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F3FE41E60113; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:28:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B70FE1E6010D for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:28:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F613A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:21:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13401317 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:21:44 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h990Lha02467 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:21:44 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.174.67]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031009002149.MFXL1769.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:21:49 -0400 Message-ID: <3F84AA12.383EF194@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 19:21:38 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: furniture placement References: <3F83E6A4.C9F399A@maynor.net> <3F848DCB.3F48FB9A@maynor.net> <3F84A566.80004@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > > Is it a little old lady thing to be so fixated on "secure"? No. I can understand Bethany's desire for having a place to park upon returning home. But I'm not into worrying about . It is true that I live in a small town, where leaving the door unlocked all the time is the norm of many residents. But I do from time to time venture out into the non-Starkville world. And I don't fixate on being secure. I fully recognize that I may be brutally murdered one of these days when walking in places in cities or whatever. But I've gotta die one way or another sometime. Iow, it is not something I fixate upon. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Little Old Lady (though I don't think of myself as especially little) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 19:29:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h990Tt21031736 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:29:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A86471E6011A; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:29:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 767141E60113 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:29:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F6166@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:23:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13401420 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:23:02 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h990N2a02699 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:23:02 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.174.67]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031009002309.MGNT1769.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:23:09 -0400 Message-ID: <3F84AA62.3CF17FBF@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 19:22:58 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: election returns References: <200310090001.h9901ta00477@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Neal Traven wrote: > Well, gotta hit the road so that I can go listen to Paul Krugman over at > UDub this evening... Please get his autograph for me -- except that I bet you've already left. I love PK. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 19:33:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h990XV21031801 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:33:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6C2AB1E60113; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:33:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23FF11E6010D for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:33:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F6153@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:26:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13401529 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:26:38 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h990Qca03115 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:26:38 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.174.67]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031009002645.MIEQ1769.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:26:45 -0400 Message-ID: <3F84AB3A.8B040697@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 19:26:34 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: BH report References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008150700.00ba9a08@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031008200237.00bb7da0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Impatiens probably did succumb to frost the other night. Mums are the > flower of choice at this time of year. Mums are big here also at this time of year, and I am intrigued by the fact that some mums that I don't remember having planted last year but that apparently I did are opening their blooms right now. I thought mums were annuals, but these seem to be perennials. Maybe it depends on how the winter goes. > The tables at the Internet Cafe are > no longer open to the outside because the plastic sides are zipped > down. One should communicate more often with one's husband... > This afternoon, though, Dimitri might have opened them up. Ayep. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 19:46:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h990kd21032077 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:46:39 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1684B1E6011F; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:46:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA91D1E60113 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:46:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00196E06@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:39:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13401883 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:39:46 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h990dja04087 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:39:45 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.174.67]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031009003953.JMNU12521.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:39:53 -0400 Message-ID: <3F84AE4C.ED2A1A1B@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 19:39:40 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: BH report References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008150700.00ba9a08@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031008194903.00b4e390@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031008202021.00b22eb0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Yes, that's him. He was born in Russia. But he did grow up in > Pennsylvania. He is one of the few employees that has made it through the > whole season. April just fired the tenth one last week. She should not fire Dimitri. He's the one I walked up to to ask what the routine was for buying a large cookie (or I think that's what it was). He not only told me the routine for cookie(orwhatever)-buying, but we got into a pleasant, interesting conversation, and I liked him very much. He is good folk and should be hung onto. But what will he do in the winter if the IC is closed? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 20:07:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9917c21032608 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:07:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2C43C1E60124; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:07:29 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAF651E60121 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:07:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F61D2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:00:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13402377 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:00:44 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h990oZa05244 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:50:35 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h990oMSb022028 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:50:24 -0400 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:50:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: furniture placement In-Reply-To: <3F84A566.80004@swbell.net> Message-ID: References: <3F83E6A4.C9F399A@maynor.net> <3F848DCB.3F48FB9A@maynor.net> <3F84A566.80004@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: >Is it a little old lady thing to be so fixated on "secure"? Could be. OTOH, when my friend Harry moved here several years ago, hs said that he liked to be able to leave the silver on the table. I like being able to hang Monet prints in the hallway without worrying about whether they will be stolen. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 20:23:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h991No21000415 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:23:50 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CF5361E60124; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:23:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 992361E60113 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:23:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F61F2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:16:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13403258 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:16:56 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h991Gua09617 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:16:56 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-34.gwi.net [216.195.153.34]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h991GsQU016380 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:16:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008211632.00baa4f0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 21:17:12 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: BH report In-Reply-To: <3F84AE4C.ED2A1A1B@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008150700.00ba9a08@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031008194903.00b4e390@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031008202021.00b22eb0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >He is good folk and should be hung onto. But what will he >do in the winter if the IC is closed? -- Natalie He's thinking of camping and surfing in Costa Rica with his girlfriend. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 20:31:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h991VW21000550 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:31:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9DA231E60126; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:31:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 667941E60124 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:31:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F6211@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:24:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13403562 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:24:38 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f36.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.36]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h991Oca10641 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:24:38 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:24:28 -0700 Received: from 64.24.187.67 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 09 Oct 2003 01:24:28 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.24.187.67] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: BH report Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 01:24:28 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Oct 2003 01:24:28.0987 (UTC) FILETIME=[159908B0:01C38E04] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: >Did she cancel because of word that someone was sitting on her flowers? Possibly. She said she'd hike Penobscot with me on Friday but called Thursday night and said she had to go to Bangor the next day. She prolly remembered that I was with the group that sat on flowers... _________________________________________________________________ Get McAfee virus scanning and cleaning of incoming attachments. Get Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 20:35:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h991Zt21000607 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:35:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 97A3D1E60126; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:35:45 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65A131E60124 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:35:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F6239@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:29:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13403807 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:29:01 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f47.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.47]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h991T1a11432 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:29:01 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:28:55 -0700 Received: from 64.24.187.67 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 09 Oct 2003 01:28:55 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.24.187.67] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Arnold Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 01:28:55 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Oct 2003 01:28:55.0747 (UTC) FILETIME=[B4996130:01C38E04] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn: >So when does the Constitution get changed so that he can >run for President? Before that happens the laws that grant automatic citizenship to native-born children will change ... I sense that there are going to be curbs put on which kids get to be citizens. _________________________________________________________________ High-speed Internet access as low as $29.95/month (depending on the local service providers in your area). Click here. https://broadband.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 20:39:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h991dR21000680 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:39:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 76E121E60126; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:39:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CE9A1E60124 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:39:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F6243@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:32:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13403906 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:32:33 -0400 Received: from web20503.mail.yahoo.com (web20503.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.138]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h991WXa12030 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:32:33 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 08 Oct 2003 18:32:32 PDT Message-ID: <20031009013232.64000.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:32:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Arnold To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008091807.0349fe18@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Do you really think you'd march off to someone and > say, "yo, hero-boy over > there felt me up, and I want him thrown in jail?" > Or do you think you'd > shut up, chalk it up to experience, and stay the > hell away from him? > > And if you did the latter, would you want someone to > call it "consensual" > groping? > > Pete I guess anyone would chalk it up to experience, squealer or not. And no, no one would want it to be called consensual, but what was it? I'm not doubting the ladies or defending Ahhnold. It seems to me to be extraordinarily coincidental for them to all land in California like a covey of quail, at this one particular time. With their numbers, they could form there OWN party. :-] And why wait until he is REALLY powerful to spill the beans and get him riled at them? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 20:45:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h991jK21000926 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:45:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D548A1E6012A; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:45:10 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BCEF1E60129 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:45:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F6248@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:38:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13404090 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:38:27 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f21.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h991cQa13136 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:38:26 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:38:20 -0700 Received: from 64.24.187.67 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 09 Oct 2003 01:38:20 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.24.187.67] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: BH report Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 01:38:20 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Oct 2003 01:38:20.0896 (UTC) FILETIME=[05744600:01C38E06] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >the col between Penobscot and Sargent > >mountains and walked on to Sargent mountain pond - a bowl of > >water surrounded by spruce trees. > >I'm glad you took that detour. We used to do the route you described each >fall when we were tourists here. We'd have a little lunch at Sargent >pond. I ate my Balance bar at the pond! >This very much sounds like you lost the trail and simply followed the >brook. There is a marked trail but it takes a bit of effort to make sure >you stay on it. I looked for the trail but didn't see any markers. The fact that I didn't see anybody the entire way down makes me think I probably wasn't on the trail. >I think that is one of the trails that is marked at some >spots with little pieces of colored metal in the trees. I'm just glad you >didn't twist an ankle and have to be carried out! I was afraid of this and took extra care. As usual in these situations it wasn't the thought of broken limbs or such that bothered me but the scandal - I'd hate the ruckus caused by having to be carried out of the woods. _________________________________________________________________ Get MSN 8 Dial-up Internet Service FREE for one month. Limited time offer-- sign up now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 20:49:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h991nA21001011 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:49:10 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8E4B41E6012C; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:49:00 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F6D1E60129 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:49:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00196F0A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:42:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13404229 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:42:16 -0400 Received: from web20506.mail.yahoo.com (web20506.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h991gGa13539 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:42:16 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 08 Oct 2003 18:42:13 PDT Message-ID: <20031009014213.45567.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:42:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: No food! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F84A8FA.19463826@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > You should move to Mississippi. Unions aren't . > Never have been > and quite likely never will be. Alabama is quite Mississippi-like, in that regard. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 20:57:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h991v021001158 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:57:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F25221E6012C; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:56:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC6881E60129 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:56:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F6295@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:50:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13404490 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:50:06 -0400 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h991o5a14441 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:50:06 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 08 Oct 2003 18:50:04 PDT Message-ID: <20031009015004.97116.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:50:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: BH report To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I was afraid of this and took extra care. As usual > in these situations > it wasn't the thought of broken limbs or such that > bothered me > but the scandal - I'd hate the ruckus caused by > having to be > carried out of the woods. Scandal? Sorry, I was forgetting - what happens in Bar Harbor... __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 20:58:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h991wT21001247 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:58:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3FA4A1E6012C; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:58:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA711E60129 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:58:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F6289@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:51:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13404534 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:51:35 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h991pZa14686 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:51:35 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.174.67]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031009015139.OGDG4570.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:51:39 -0400 Message-ID: <3F84BF22.D6F47BFC@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 20:51:30 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: furniture placement References: <3F83E6A4.C9F399A@maynor.net> <3F848DCB.3F48FB9A@maynor.net> <3F84A566.80004@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >Is it a little old lady thing to be so fixated on "secure"? > > Could be. OTOH, when my friend Harry moved here several years ago, hs said > that he liked to be able to leave the silver on the table. Leave the silver on the table? As in the dinner table? Doesn't he wash dishes after a meal? Or did he mean other kinds of silver on other kinds of tables? Did he move there from a place where there were lots of break-ins and people stole the silver items from wherever they were sitting? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 21:02:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9922r21001371 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:02:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 831981E6012C; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:02:43 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C2F71E60129 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:02:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00196F37@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:55:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13404666 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:55:20 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h991tKa15295 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:55:20 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.174.67]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031009015519.OHPX4570.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:55:19 -0400 Message-ID: <3F84BFFF.D5829D68@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 20:55:11 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: BH report References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008150700.00ba9a08@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031008194903.00b4e390@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031008202021.00b22eb0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031008211632.00baa4f0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > >He is good folk and should be hung onto. But what will he > >do in the winter if the IC is closed? -- Natalie > > He's thinking of camping and surfing in Costa Rica with his girlfriend. That sounds good. I think it would be fun to spend summers in Maine and winters in Costa Rica. Tell him hi from one of your rowdy friends but not one who sat on the flowers. I don't know how much people working in a place like that might remember of conversations with strays, but he and I did discuss briefly that I was from Mississippi. So you could tell him hi from the non-flower-sitter from Mississippi. He asked me where I was from, which is why Mississippi came up. And I'm pretty sure he said that he had been through Mississippi on a long drive. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 21:04:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9924R21001384 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:04:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A91C81E60130; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:04:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F751E6012E for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:04:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F628E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:57:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13404721 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:57:33 -0400 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h991vXa15533 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:57:33 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h991vUkB009502 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:57:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F84C045.7000502@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 20:56:21 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: No food! References: <20031008154946.7183.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> <3F8483C3.1000805@swbell.net> <3F84953D.FF29A4CA@maynor.net> <3F84A521.5050907@swbell.net> <3F84A8FA.19463826@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: >>Luckily Whole Foods isn't unionized, so I can pick some >> > > You should move to Mississippi. Unions aren't . Never have been > and quite likely never will be. The grocery stores aren't unionized in Massachusettes, either. I have nothing against the unions; I've just never chosen to join one. I'm whining because I'm slightly inconvenienced. I will say this about St. Louis: this town respects a strike. No grocery store I've driven by has had more than a dozen cars in the lot. The employees really were offerred a sucky deal. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 21:05:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9925v21001394 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:05:57 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1B9271E6012C; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:05:48 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D47191E60129 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:05:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F629E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:59:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13404750 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:59:04 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h991x4a15688 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:59:04 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.174.67]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031009015908.OJCU4570.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:59:08 -0400 Message-ID: <3F84C0E3.BF84CA1B@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 20:58:59 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Arnold References: <20031009013232.64000.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > I'm not doubting the ladies or defending Ahhnold. It > seems to me to be extraordinarily coincidental for > them to all land in California like a covey of quail, > at this one particular time. As I said last night, I haven't been following the California to-do as closely as many people have been -- iow, I readily acknowledge my ignorance. I hadn't realized that these gropees cruised in from elsewhere. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 21:07:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9927T21001408 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:07:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4E8211E6012C; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:07:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BE261E60129 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:07:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F62BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:00:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13404873 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:00:35 -0400 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9920Ya15964 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:00:35 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9920WkB011839 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:00:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F84C0FA.1010106@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 20:59:22 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Arnold References: <20031009013232.64000.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: >>Do you really think you'd march off to someone and >>say, "yo, hero-boy over >>there felt me up, and I want him thrown in jail?" >>Or do you think you'd >>shut up, chalk it up to experience, and stay the >>hell away from him? >> >>And if you did the latter, would you want someone to >>call it "consensual" >>groping? >> >>Pete >> > > I guess anyone would chalk it up to experience, > squealer or not. And no, no one would want it to be > called consensual, but what was it? If a crime goes unprosecuted, what was it? -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 21:09:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9929V21001423 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:09:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DD63F1E6012C; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:09:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7E681E60129 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:09:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F62CE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:02:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13405026 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:02:38 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9922ba16359 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:02:37 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.174.67]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031009020242.OKNY4570.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:02:42 -0400 Message-ID: <3F84C1B9.22B2A29B@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 21:02:33 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: No food! References: <20031009014213.45567.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > > You should move to Mississippi. Unions aren't . > > Never have been > > and quite likely never will be. > > Alabama is quite Mississippi-like, in that regard. As I have mentioned before on this , I still have a problem thinking of Unions as something good. I grew up thinking of them as sinister organizations that ripped off poor working people. Try as I might (and have), I still have trouble thinking of Unions as doing good things. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 21:20:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h992KZ21001780 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:20:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 38CD81E60130; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:20:25 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 023AF1E60129 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:20:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F62D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:13:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13405437 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:13:41 -0400 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h992Dfa17497 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:13:41 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 08 Oct 2003 18:55:03 PDT Message-ID: <20031009015504.27276.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:55:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: report on the brat (aka Maria) To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Lordy, what I - we - go through for that mare! Did you whack her on the bottom? :-] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 21:32:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h992We21001998 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:32:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 847C41E60130; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:32:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BF851E6012E for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:32:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F6317@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:25:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13405903 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:25:46 -0400 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h992Pka18970 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:25:46 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 08 Oct 2003 19:25:45 PDT Message-ID: <20031009022545.32871.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:25:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: election returns To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008161555.03066620@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Barbara O'Connor, director of the Institute for the > Study of Politics and > Media at California State University-Sacramento: > ""Voters are really angry > with politicians. They don't think their politicians > are representing them > well and Gray Davis became the poster boy for that." I think Gray Davis well-named. He is actually gray - even his skin is gray. I think he looks sick. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 21:35:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h992Zp21002017 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:35:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9F9F31E60130; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:35:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67D851E6012E for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:35:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F632B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:28:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13406069 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:28:57 -0400 Received: from web20513.mail.yahoo.com (web20513.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h992Sva19509 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:28:57 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20513.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 08 Oct 2003 19:27:49 PDT Message-ID: <20031009022749.70544.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:27:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: furniture placement To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F84BF22.D6F47BFC@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Leave the silver on the table? As in the dinner > table? Doesn't he wash > dishes after a meal? Or did he mean other kinds of > silver on other > kinds of tables? Did he move there from a place > where there were lots > of break-ins and people stole the silver items from > wherever they were > sitting? He is a direct descendant, via the maternal line, of Paul Revere. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 21:37:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h992b221002033 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:37:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C16731E60134; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:36:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E4B71E60132 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:36:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F6328@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:30:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13406189 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:30:08 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h992U8a19807 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:30:08 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h992U7W1023709 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:30:07 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h992U5Wq023679; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:30:06 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031008193026.00b10100@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 19:31:30 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: No food! In-Reply-To: <3F84C1B9.22B2A29B@maynor.net> References: <20031009014213.45567.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:02 PM 10/8/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Lynne Weber wrote: > > > > > You should move to Mississippi. Unions aren't . > > > Never have been > > > and quite likely never will be. > > > > Alabama is quite Mississippi-like, in that regard. > >As I have mentioned before on this , I still have a problem >thinking of Unions as something good. I grew up thinking of them as >sinister organizations that ripped off poor working people. Try as I >might (and have), I still have trouble thinking of Unions as doing good >things. Without unions the minimum wage would be much less than it is now. It's a shame that they are necessary. Of course , they have gotten out of hand, too. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 21:42:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h992gE21002120 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:42:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0DB551E60130; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:42:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA0381E6012E for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:42:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F633B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:35:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13406509 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:35:20 -0400 Received: from web20509.mail.yahoo.com (web20509.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.144]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h992ZJa20945 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:35:19 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20509.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 08 Oct 2003 19:19:33 PDT Message-ID: <20031009021933.64108.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:19:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: The Abortion Candidate To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F84902C.E6C4BC1E@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I think you're right in general, although I really > do think there are > people out there who believe that illicit sex in the > White House is more > than illicit wars. Re the "shocking sexual > allegations" > mentioned above, that was some rather juicy stuff, > which was pretty well > confirmed as true, though I think technically it > stayed at the level of > "allegations." The Gov was going out at night and > picking up black > transvestites to shack up with. I hope Ms. Blackmon hasn't really "queered" her chances. This could have made for a very entertaining race, and historical to boot. Gov. Fordice was a frisky little colt, wasn't he? Is he still around? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 21:45:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h992jM21002190 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:45:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BAA481E60136; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:45:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88F161E60132 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:45:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00197090@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:38:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13406602 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:38:28 -0400 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h992cSa21400 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:38:28 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 08 Oct 2003 19:38:27 PDT Message-ID: <20031009023827.10048.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:38:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: No food! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F84C1B9.22B2A29B@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Alabama is quite Mississippi-like, in that regard. > > As I have mentioned before on this , I > still have a problem > thinking of Unions as something good. I grew up > thinking of them as > sinister organizations that ripped off poor working > people. Try as I > might (and have), I still have trouble thinking of > Unions as doing good > things. I grew up thinking the unions were great (because of so many Welsh relatives in coal mining), but that there came a time when they were became thoroughly corrupt and insensitive to the needs of their members. I am still ambivalent about them. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 21:49:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h992nS21002257 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:49:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 314E61E60132; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:49:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EECD61E6012E for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:49:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F637D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:42:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13406874 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:42:34 -0400 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h992gXa22113 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:42:34 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 08 Oct 2003 19:34:27 PDT Message-ID: <20031009023427.61943.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:34:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Arnold To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F84C0FA.1010106@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >> > >>Pete > >> > > > > I guess anyone would chalk it up to experience, > > squealer or not. And no, no one would want it to > be > > called consensual, but what was it? > > > If a crime goes unprosecuted, what was it? A non-crime. It may be an act of stupidity, but under the law, if a warrant/complaint is not signed, if the District Attorney or State declines to prosecute, if a grand jury no-bills, there is no statutory crime. > > > > > -- > Rita Rouvalis Chapman > rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org > http://www.etext.org/~rita > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 21:53:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h992rV21002348 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:53:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B99141E60130; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:53:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 836D61E6012E for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:53:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F6397@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:46:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13407073 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:46:37 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h992kba22612 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:46:37 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.174.67]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031009024644.LVXA28442.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:46:44 -0400 Message-ID: <3F84CC09.8A737A6E@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 21:46:33 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Abortion Candidate References: <20031009021933.64108.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > I hope Ms. Blackmon hasn't really "queered" her > chances. This could have made for a very entertaining > race, and historical to boot. Yes, I really do hate that she blew it. But I think she has. I think it extremely unlikely for her to come anywhere close now. She isn' an ideal candiate, of course. She's widely thought to be something of a racist -- or to put it less bluntly "to not be inclusive." I've heard that enough from various sources to believe that it is probably true, although people I know are still going to vote for her. > Gov. Fordice was a frisky little colt, wasn't he? Is > he still around? I'm not sure what the very latest on him is. He supposedly built a mansion in Jackson, where he and his former lover -- she whom he was visiting in Memphis when he had a wreck -- were living. But then she left him, I think. I'm not sure what his situation is now, either his love-life or his career. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 21:54:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h992sZ21002381 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:54:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D794E1E60130; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:54:24 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D4DE1E6012E for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:54:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F6389@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:47:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13407241 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:47:41 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h992lea23013 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:47:40 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h992laJl004485 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:47:38 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <002101c38e10$c7389160$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031009014213.45567.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> <3F84C1B9.22B2A29B@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: No food! Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:55:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > > > You should move to Mississippi. Unions aren't . > > > Never have been > > > and quite likely never will be. > > > > Alabama is quite Mississippi-like, in that regard. > > As I have mentioned before on this , I still have a problem > thinking of Unions as something good. I grew up thinking of them as > sinister organizations that ripped off poor working people. Try as I > might (and have), I still have trouble thinking of Unions as doing good > things. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > In my mind there is no question they were needed when they were initiated and that they protected workers rights. But in my mind, they have gone way too far and are now into breaking companies and in the end losing jobs for their workers. I've seen too much of that happen. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 21:54:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h992sm21002391 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:54:48 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B778C1E60130; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:54:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 856BE1E6012E for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:54:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F63AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:47:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13407267 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:47:54 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h992lra23041 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:47:54 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.174.67]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031009024800.LWIY28442.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:48:00 -0400 Message-ID: <3F84CC55.CD64933B@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 21:47:49 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: No food! References: <20031009014213.45567.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20031008193026.00b10100@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > Without unions the minimum wage would be much less than it is now. It's a > shame that they are necessary. Of course , they have gotten out of hand, too. As I said, I've tried to think more pro-unionist thoughts. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 21:54:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h992st21002394 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:54:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B5AEC1E60132; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:54:45 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83C9F1E60130 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:54:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F6390@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:48:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13407293 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:48:01 -0400 Received: from web20511.mail.yahoo.com (web20511.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.150]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h992m0a23064 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:48:00 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20511.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 08 Oct 2003 19:05:48 PDT Message-ID: <20031009020548.65250.qmail@web20511.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:05:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Arnold, county by county To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > You can bet your bippy that if Schwarzenegger had > been from, say, Fresno, > the returns from Los Angeles would have mirrored > those from San Francisco, > and the recall would have gone the other way. But > he isn't, and it didn't. Late this afternoon, NPR aired an interview with a Californian senator, John C(urata?) He kept saying "we", so I took him to be a Democrat. He said that the Democratic party in CA had strayed too far left; and that the campaign had been sloppy. Do you know this guy, and what do you think? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 21:55:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h992tM21002397 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:55:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EF59A1E60132; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:55:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B452D1E60130 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:55:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F63A8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:48:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13407361 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:48:28 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h992mRa23119 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:48:27 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h992mOJl005867 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:48:25 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <002601c38e10$e3c58720$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031009015504.27276.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: report on the brat (aka Maria) Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:56:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Lordy, what I - we - go through for that mare! > > Did you whack her on the bottom? :-] Oh my. I thought you were talking about Maria Schwartzenegger. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 21:57:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h992v921002427 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:57:09 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 38B511E60130; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:56:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0434E1E6012E for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:56:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F63C5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:50:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13407496 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:50:15 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h992oEa23644 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:50:14 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h992oBJl009066 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:50:12 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <002b01c38e11$237a1f20$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031009022545.32871.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: election returns Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:57:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Barbara O'Connor, director of the Institute for the > > Study of Politics and > > Media at California State University-Sacramento: > > ""Voters are really angry > > with politicians. They don't think their politicians > > are representing them > > well and Gray Davis became the poster boy for that." > > > I think Gray Davis well-named. He is actually gray - > even his skin is gray. I think he looks sick. Oddly, many years ago when I was religious, I had a minister whose name was Graydon . . . and he was lean and gray looking. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 22:14:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h993Ee21002660 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:14:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5099B1E6012E; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:14:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 164171E60136 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:14:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F655B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 23:07:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13411003 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 23:07:39 -0400 Received: from web20503.mail.yahoo.com (web20503.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.138]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9937da28264 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 23:07:39 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 08 Oct 2003 20:07:38 PDT Message-ID: <20031009030738.70740.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:07:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: No food! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <002101c38e10$c7389160$facadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > In my mind there is no question they were > needed when they were initiated and that > they protected workers rights. But in my > mind, they have gone way too far and are > now into breaking companies and in the > end losing jobs for their workers. > I've seen too much of that happen. > > - D. M. This is very close, indeed, to my attitude as of this moment, but I'm sort of wishy-washy on this issue. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 22:19:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h993J521002759 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:19:05 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3581D1E60136; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:18:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26071E6012E for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:18:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001972EA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 23:12:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13412194 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 23:12:04 -0400 Received: from web20509.mail.yahoo.com (web20509.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.144]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h993C4a29240 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 23:12:04 -0400 Received: from [68.17.168.96] by web20509.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 08 Oct 2003 20:08:36 PDT Message-ID: <20031009030836.77269.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:08:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: report on the brat (aka Maria) To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <002601c38e10$e3c58720$facadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > > > Lordy, what I - we - go through for that mare! > > > > Did you whack her on the bottom? :-] > > > Oh my. I thought you were talking > about Maria Schwartzenegger. > > - D. M. Well, her too. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 22:45:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h993jE21003443 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:45:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4CC141E6013B; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:45:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 177FD1E60137 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:45:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F6660@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 23:38:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13413421 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 23:38:20 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h993cKa01427 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 23:38:20 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-34.gwi.net [216.195.153.34]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h993cGYr006394; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 23:38:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008233135.00b54da8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 23:37:23 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: BH report In-Reply-To: <3F84AE4C.ED2A1A1B@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008150700.00ba9a08@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031008194903.00b4e390@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031008202021.00b22eb0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:39 PM 10/8/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >... He is good folk and should be hung onto. But what will he >do in the winter if the IC is closed? To answer some points in several posts: 1. The plastic walls open this morning when I was there about 11 a.m. 2. Dimitri is most recently from PA---Philadelphia as I recall. He was born in Russia and spent time in two other European countries (one was Italy) before coming to N.A. 3. He had planned to winter in Costa Rica as Bonnie noted. Now, however, he is talking about getting another job, elsewhere than Bar Harbor, for the winter. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 8 22:53:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h993rS21003540 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:53:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5D1621E60137; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:53:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A73A1E60136 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:53:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F66AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 23:46:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13413854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 23:46:34 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f50.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.50]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h993kYa03049 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 23:46:34 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:46:28 -0700 Received: from 64.24.187.111 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 09 Oct 2003 03:46:27 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.24.187.111] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Sean Hannity wins award Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 03:46:27 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Oct 2003 03:46:28.0583 (UTC) FILETIME=[EBAC3770:01C38E17] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Trouble is: I love Sean Hannity. And Keith Olbermann on MSNBC. I like Obermann's sardonic wit and irreverent style. Hannity is more conventional and mainstream, imo. I get bored after a couple of minutes of watching him and reach for the remote. -rashmi, who has the male remote control gene _________________________________________________________________ Instant message with integrated webcam using MSN Messenger 6.0. Try it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 03:03:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9983h21008036 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 03:03:43 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A8B6C1E60143; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 03:03:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E26C71E60077 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 03:03:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00197822@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 3:56:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13425929 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 03:56:38 -0400 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h997uca27707 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 03:56:38 -0400 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 09:57:59 +0200 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id SBZZWY1P; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 09:57:57 +0200 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031009095512.01ffb408@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 09:56:05 +0200 Subject: Re: election returns In-Reply-To: References: <001e01c38df1$9abe3fa0$facadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031008141619.036fedf0@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 16:35 08.10.2003 -0700 skrev Bookrat: >As a friend of mine says: > >"Any time you find yourself in a situation where it seems that things can't >possibly get worse, rest assured -- they can." And this reminds me that the latest issue of AIR is a special issue on Murphy's Law. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 03:06:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9986321008055 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 03:06:03 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 470271E60077; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 03:05:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D2F01E60037 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 03:05:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F6CF0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 3:59:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13426039 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 03:59:01 -0400 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h997x0a27925 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 03:59:00 -0400 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:00:04 +0200 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id SBZZWYHR; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:00:02 +0200 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031009095755.0201c218@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 09:58:10 +0200 Subject: Re: No food! In-Reply-To: <3F84A521.5050907@swbell.net> References: <20031008154946.7183.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> <3F8483C3.1000805@swbell.net> <3F84953D.FF29A4CA@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 19:00 08.10.2003 -0500 skrev Rita Chapman: >Natalie Maynor wrote: > >>Rita Chapman wrote: >> >> >>>>Send Vinnie out for duck. >>> Why would I send a setter out for waterfowl? >> >>What do Irish Setters hunt? I had it stuck in my head that they were >>very versatile hunters, hunting pretty much anything. > > > Upland games birds -- pheasant, quail, woodcock, etc. Grouse! Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 03:15:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h998FE21008230 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 03:15:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6CE8E1E60077; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 03:15:00 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53D951E60037 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 03:14:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00197837@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 4:08:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13426233 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 04:08:11 -0400 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9988Aa28578 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 04:08:10 -0400 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:09:31 +0200 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id SBZZWYLM; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:09:27 +0200 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031009100156.0201d2b8@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 10:07:36 +0200 Subject: Re: No food! In-Reply-To: <3F84C1B9.22B2A29B@maynor.net> References: <20031009014213.45567.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 21:02 08.10.2003 -0500 skrev Natalie Maynor: >Lynne Weber wrote: >> >> > You should move to Mississippi. Unions aren't . >> > Never have been >> > and quite likely never will be. >> >> Alabama is quite Mississippi-like, in that regard. > >As I have mentioned before on this , I still have a problem >thinking of Unions as something good. I grew up thinking of them as >sinister organizations that ripped off poor working people. Try as I >might (and have), I still have trouble thinking of Unions as doing good >things. Hey, I resemble this! I have been a union member since I started full time full year work in 1984 - I even am an offiver (or whatever the term should be) in the local club here. I have had my insurances thorugh my union membership, and when we had the fire in 1993 that was one of the reasons why it was failry hassle-free to get my losses recompensated etc. Since we are now both renovating our main building and going through a reorganization of the whole library I am rather happy that we have unions and that they have rights when it comes to discussing all these changes. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 05:22:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99AMt21010337 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 05:22:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 479BC1E60141; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 05:22:42 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 164291E6003A for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 05:22:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F6F58@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 6:15:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13430733 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 06:15:58 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h99AFva03895 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 06:15:58 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.139.176]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031009101608.ODTV6048.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 06:16:08 -0400 Message-ID: <3F85355A.FE829152@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 05:15:54 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Dutch Soil in Mississippi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hey, Theo -- If you get homesick for the Netherlands, you can visit it right here in the USA. I'm surprised I've never heard about the Dutch soil that is part of the cemetery where my parents, grandparents (one set), and great-grandparents (one set) are buried. They're presumably not in the Dutch part, but they're in the same cemetery. I just read this in a newspaper story written by a man who lived at that cemetery as a child and helped bury people: ************************** because their plot in Cedar Lawn is considered Dutch soil. "As a kid, I always wondered if I robbed a bank and ran to the Dutch lot, could the local police arrest me or would I have to be extradited from the Netherlands?" .... During supper one night in '52, Baker's father was summoned outside to a "chartreuse-green" Lincoln Continental. Inside the car sat Queen Juliana of the Netherlands, AWOL from a visit with President Eisenhower. She'd come to visit her countrymen. Until her death years later, the queen sent bunches of hyacinths, tulips, jonquils, all to be planted at the graves. ************************** from: http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0310/09/opettus.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 05:49:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99AnF21010730 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 05:49:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0F32F1E60078; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 05:49:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5FC11E6003A for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 05:49:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F6F57@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 6:42:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13431036 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 06:42:18 -0400 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h99AgHa05077 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 06:42:17 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h99AgGw4006790 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 05:42:16 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3F853B4E.4040508@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 05:41:18 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Arnold References: <20031009023427.61943.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: >>>>Pete >>>> >>>> >>>I guess anyone would chalk it up to experience, >>>squealer or not. And no, no one would want it to >>> >>be >> >>>called consensual, but what was it? >>> >> >> If a crime goes unprosecuted, what was it? >> > > A non-crime. It may be an act of stupidity, but under > the law, if a warrant/complaint is not signed, if the > District Attorney or State declines to prosecute, if a > grand jury no-bills, there is no statutory crime. So the murder victim springs back to life? (Please note, I didn't use the adjective "statuatory" in my question.) -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 06:43:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99Bh321011615 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 06:43:03 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7E8F81E6007E; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 06:42:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CF521E6007A for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 06:42:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F7002@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 7:36:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13432362 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 07:36:05 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h99BQ5a28427 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 07:26:05 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h99BPqSb030761 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 07:25:53 -0400 Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 07:26:02 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: furniture placement In-Reply-To: <3F84BF22.D6F47BFC@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3F83E6A4.C9F399A@maynor.net> <3F848DCB.3F48FB9A@maynor.net> <3F84A566.80004@swbell.net> <3F84BF22.D6F47BFC@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> Could be. OTOH, when my friend Harry moved here several years ago, hs said >> that he liked to be able to leave the silver on the table. > >Leave the silver on the table? As in the dinner table? Doesn't he wash >dishes after a meal? Or did he mean other kinds of silver on other >kinds of tables? Did he move there from a place where there were lots >of break-ins and people stole the silver items from wherever they were >sitting? You'll have to ask Harry about the table details. There are always break-ins in residential neighborhoods ... and I imagine that if a buglar looks in a window and sees silver, that will become a target. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 06:44:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99Bi921011624 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 06:44:09 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ACDF11E60141; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 06:43:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C2631E6007E for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 06:43:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F7012@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 7:37:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13432397 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 07:37:11 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h99BRBa28523 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 07:27:11 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h99BQxSb030972 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 07:26:59 -0400 Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 07:27:10 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: report on the brat (aka Maria) In-Reply-To: <20031009015504.27276.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031009015504.27276.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >> Lordy, what I - we - go through for that mare! > >Did you whack her on the bottom? :-] Well,, of course, I did not get close enough to her yesterday to do that ... but I have slugged her a few times. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 06:45:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99BjV21011655 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 06:45:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AC5F11E6007E; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 06:45:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F5121E6007A for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 06:45:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F7023@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 7:38:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13432447 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 07:38:33 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h99BSXa28633 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 07:28:33 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h99BSLSb031176 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 07:28:21 -0400 Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 07:28:32 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: report on the brat (aka Maria) In-Reply-To: <002601c38e10$e3c58720$facadece@0018079268> Message-ID: References: <20031009015504.27276.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> <002601c38e10$e3c58720$facadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Doris Markland wrote: >Oh my. I thought you were talking >about Maria Schwartzenegger. LOL! I'll tell Maria. MY Maria/my brat. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 07:24:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99COV21012272 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 07:24:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0395C1E60141; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 07:24:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C45D41E6007E for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 07:24:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F70B2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 8:17:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13433915 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 08:17:33 -0400 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h99C7Xa32261 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 08:07:33 -0400 Received: from ra.msstate.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.12.10/8.12.8/ra_1.2) with ESMTP; id h99C7Qfb018290 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 07:07:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from maynor@localhost) by ra.msstate.edu (8.12.10/8.12.7/Submit) id h99C7P74018289 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 07:07:25 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 07:07:25 -0500 (CDT) From: Natalie Maynor Message-Id: <200310091207.h99C7P74018289@ra.msstate.edu> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Att: RitaC Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just saw a sign in the mailroom saying "It's here -- the new issue of the Jabberwock." So it is apparently finally out. I may go buy one in the office of the person whose name is on the sign as the seller of them. But that will be later today. She's not here yet, and I have many miles to go before I read. --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 09:43:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99EhF21014226 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 09:43:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2D2281E60158; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 09:43:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3D791E60157 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 09:43:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00198011@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:36:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13446216 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:36:16 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h99EaFa28315 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:36:16 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.74.122]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HMHUYY03.CCQ for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 07:30:34 -0700 Message-ID: <3F857506.E19148A3@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 07:47:34 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: election returns References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bookrat wrote: > Also, I'm sure that a lot of people, including myself, voted for one of the > yahoo candidates mostly as a symbolic gesture. Leo Gallagher, I hope. Or the porn actress. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 09:55:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99Etf21014369 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 09:55:41 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 01DCE1E60159; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 09:55:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C85FD1E60150 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 09:55:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F75FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:48:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13446951 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:48:42 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h99Emga30465 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:48:42 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A7c6L-0002iA-DA for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 09 Oct 2003 10:49:13 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008210940.0359d840@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 07:49:30 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Arnold In-Reply-To: <20031009013232.64000.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008091807.0349fe18@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber writes, >And why wait until he is REALLY powerful to spill the beans and get him >riled at them? A couple potential reasons I can imagine: * because an investigative reporter has done the leg work of assembling a group of women with similar allegations, who together will be more credible; * because sexually assaultive behavior in an important political candidate would be considered more grave than the same behavior from a movie star; * because the options for untoward forms of recrimination would harm a politician more than movie star. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 09:56:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99Euc21014372 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 09:56:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B5BC51E6015B; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 09:56:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 859661E6015A for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 09:56:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F761F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:49:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13447003 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:49:39 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h99Enda30637 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:49:39 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.74.122]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HMHVLA03.6DP for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 07:43:58 -0700 Message-ID: <3F85782F.8A537457@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 08:01:03 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: RI Tremor References: <4.2.2.20031007185924.00af6d30@uclink.berkeley.edu> <109991921.1065564699@TWild.uri.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031008093708.00b23820@pop.gwi.net> <3F848EF5.CAB3D73C@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > There was some kind of big publicity about it several years ago, iirc -- > big publicity in its general vicinity, I mean. I can't remember now > what the publicity said. Starkville is in one of the outermost circles > of from it. And Murray State is in the innermost. Every room and every building has large What To Do If and THIS WAY OUT signs. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 09:58:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99EwU21014375 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 09:58:30 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BFE981E6015A; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 09:58:15 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EBF31E60159 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 09:58:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001980A1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:51:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13447125 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:51:31 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h99EpVa30998 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:51:31 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.74.122]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HMHVOE01.0DU for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 07:45:50 -0700 Message-ID: <3F85789F.ABC1EC49@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 08:02:55 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Arnold References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031008091807.0349fe18@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031008210940.0359d840@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > Lynne Weber writes, > > >And why wait until he is REALLY powerful to spill the beans and get him > >riled at them? You'll have to ask the LA Times - they were the ones playing "Gotcha!" JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 09:59:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99ExH21014396 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 09:59:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9018F1E60159; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 09:59:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6186F1E60150 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 09:59:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F760E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:52:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13447150 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:52:18 -0400 Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com (web20502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h99EqIa31116 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:52:18 -0400 Received: from [68.17.134.5] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 09 Oct 2003 07:52:15 PDT Message-ID: <20031009145215.15168.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 07:52:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: No food! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031009095755.0201c218@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >>> Why would I send a setter out for > waterfowl? > >> > >>What do Irish Setters hunt? I had it stuck in my > head that they were > >>very versatile hunters, hunting pretty much > anything. > > > > > > Upland games birds -- pheasant, quail, > woodcock, etc. > > Grouse! Please, Espen, she does not need encouragement. > > Espen __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 10:50:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99FoJ21015326 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:50:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C3EFD1E6016A; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:50:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91CA51E60169 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:50:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F788E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 11:43:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13452803 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 11:43:20 -0400 Received: from web20506.mail.yahoo.com (web20506.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h99FhIe10731 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 11:43:18 -0400 Received: from [68.17.134.5] by web20506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 09 Oct 2003 08:43:12 PDT Message-ID: <20031009154313.51918.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 08:43:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Arnold To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F853B4E.4040508@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >> If a crime goes unprosecuted, what was it? > >> > > > > A non-crime. It may be an act of stupidity, but > under > > the law, if a warrant/complaint is not signed, if > the > > District Attorney or State declines to prosecute, > if a > > grand jury no-bills, there is no statutory crime. > > > So the murder victim springs back to life? > (Please note, I > didn't use the adjective "statuatory" in my > question.) If, by not using the word "statutory", you mean to convey that you are speaking in the moral sense, we have left the realm of criminality. A murder victim does not spring back to life any more than a motorcyclist struck by a bus, or an AIDS infected African child. Acts, statutes and ordinances are devised to delineate for society what actions are "beyond the pale", and deserve varying degrees of punishment. And, as has been pointed out during numerous centuries, moral or immoral behavior, outside the law, cannot be legislated. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 11:23:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99GNH21015953 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 11:23:18 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 73E811E6016E; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 11:23:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D38C1E6016A for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 11:23:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F79D2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 12:16:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13455465 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 12:16:16 -0400 Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h99GGBe16627 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 12:16:11 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HMH008M8ZUY5K@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 09 Oct 2003 12:16:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.76] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Thu, 09 Oct 2003 12:12:16 -0400 Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 12:12:16 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: No food! To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Upland games birds -- pheasant, quail, woodcock, etc. > Setters generally aren't much for swimming. Setters are a > pointing dog. You can't point in the water. Same as > Viszlas. I should get a picture of Vinnie on point. Speaking of which, guess who's finally coming home this weekend... Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 12:06:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99H6421016785 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 12:06:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D48711E60188; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 12:05:48 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A50471E60170 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 12:05:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001985C2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 12:59:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13459641 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 12:58:57 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h99Gwve24840 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 12:58:57 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h99GwuHL010965 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 09:58:56 -0700 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h99GwsjD010882; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 09:58:55 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031009095640.00a5d880@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 09:56:52 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: No food! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:12 PM 10/9/2003 -0400, Marie Ascher wrote: > > Upland games birds -- pheasant, quail, woodcock, etc. > > Setters generally aren't much for swimming. Setters are a > > pointing dog. You can't point in the water. Same as > > Viszlas. I should get a picture of Vinnie on point. > >Speaking of which, guess who's finally coming home this weekend... What is his name? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 12:16:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99HGQ21017043 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 12:16:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2BF1A1E6018A; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 12:16:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1A521E60188 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 12:16:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F7C1A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:09:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13460593 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:09:26 -0400 Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h99H9Qe26483 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:09:26 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HMI008B92BQMR@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 09 Oct 2003 13:09:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.76] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Thu, 09 Oct 2003 13:05:26 -0400 Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 13:05:26 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: No food! To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <8677288fa5.88fa586772@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Speaking of which, guess who's finally coming home this weekend... > > What is his name? We're calling him Laszlo. I'm not sure about his official AKC name. The woman who founded Copper Creek Vizslas tended to name the dogs after Beatles songs, so I'm thinking Copper Creek's Laszlo's Golden Slumbers. Although I've got some time to think about that. Anyone got one? Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 12:22:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99HM021017135 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 12:22:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5B28E1E6018B; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 12:21:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280361E6018A for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 12:21:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F7C2E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:14:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13461073 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:14:55 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h99HEte27476 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:14:55 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h99HEs8b014412 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:14:54 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h99HEsfC018189 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:14:54 -0400 Message-ID: <05b701c38e88$db9e7fc0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "Wordslurs" Subject: They rioted... Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:14:54 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ... again last night after the 1st win against the Yankees. URI students massed down in back of the dorms, tipped over a hall director's car and set several fires in dumpsters. One open fire right on the quadrangle in the center of campus was visited by the university president, Robert Lee Carothers, who pleaded with students to go home. I have a lot of respect for Dr. Carothers. He has shown consistent true leadership over more than a decade. 'Alan Who can: Identify that quote... "... when a gang of nearly a thousand youths entered the Grand Hotel in pursuit of two, leather clad, rockers." From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 12:34:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99HYq21017405 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 12:34:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CBBC61E6018D; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 12:34:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 943CF1E6018C for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 12:34:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F7CA0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:27:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13461885 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:27:52 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h99HRqe29442 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:27:52 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 09 Oct 2003 13:27:52 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 13:27:25 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: They rioted... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h99HYq21017405 If I can identify the quote will you cut my hair? BrP >>> awild@URI.EDU 10/09/03 01:14PM >>> Who can: Identify that quote... "... when a gang of nearly a thousand youths entered the Grand Hotel in pursuit of two, leather clad, rockers." From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 12:44:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99Hik21017535 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 12:44:46 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 012941E6018B; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 12:44:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B66B1E6018A for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 12:44:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F7CC2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:37:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13462497 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:37:46 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h99Hbje30666 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:37:46 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 09 Oct 2003 13:37:45 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 13:37:18 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Defending Montecore Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h99Hik21017535 Siegfried says that the tiger was trying to help not hurt Roy - that Roy fell and the tiger reacted by trying to . Interesting BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 13:03:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99I3521017838 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:03:05 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 395B71E6018F; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:02:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA86A1E6018E for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:02:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F7DB8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:56:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13464497 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:56:04 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h99Hu4e01075 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:56:04 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 09 Oct 2003 13:56:04 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 13:55:53 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Canadian Supremes - Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h99I3521017838 Regardless of whether federal legislation pases to redefine marriage for all of Canada as "two persons" instead of "a man and a woman" today's ruling says that the BC and Ontario Court of Appeal decisions stand - a unanimous decision. BrP ------------------------------- OTTAWA, 9/10/03. THE SUPREME COURT OF CANADA HAS TODAY RENDERED JUDGMENT IN THE FOLLOWING MOTIONS. 29879 THE ASSOCIATION FOR MARRIAGE AND THE FAMILY IN ONTARIO v. HEDY HALPERN, ET AL. AND BETWEEN THE INTERFAITH COALITION ON MARRIAGE AND FAMILY v. HEDY HALPERN, ET AL. (Ont.) THE COURT: The motions to quash the leave applications are granted. The motions to be added as parties are dismissed. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 13:12:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99ICS21018075 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:12:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F2BD51E6018E; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:12:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 812E41E6018C for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:12:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00198811@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 14:05:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13465176 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 14:05:28 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h99I5Re02338 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 14:05:27 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h99I5R8b016863 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 14:05:27 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h99I5QfC002159 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 14:05:26 -0400 Message-ID: <05fa01c38e8f$eaf57c10$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: They rioted... Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 14:05:26 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 'Too easy... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 1:27 PM Subject: Re: They rioted... If I can identify the quote will you cut my hair? BrP >>> awild@URI.EDU 10/09/03 01:14PM >>> Who can: Identify that quote... "... when a gang of nearly a thousand youths entered the Grand Hotel in pursuit of two, leather clad, rockers." From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 13:13:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99ID021018082 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:13:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AAE491E6018E; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:12:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C02A1E6018C for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:12:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00198818@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 14:05:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13465243 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 14:06:00 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h99I5xe02425 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 14:05:59 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 8F4642B8E9; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 11:05:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DFAD2B8D5 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 11:05:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 11:05:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Canadian Supremes - In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU YaY. I know it's a separate question whether the US would recognize these, but do you know whether say BC would marry two American citizens, or one Canadian / one American couples? Ann On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > Regardless of whether federal legislation pases to redefine marriage for all of Canada as "two persons" instead of "a man and a woman" today's ruling says that the BC and Ontario Court of Appeal decisions stand - a unanimous decision. > > BrP > > > ------------------------------- > OTTAWA, 9/10/03. THE SUPREME COURT OF CANADA HAS TODAY RENDERED JUDGMENT IN THE FOLLOWING MOTIONS. > > 29879 THE ASSOCIATION FOR MARRIAGE AND THE FAMILY IN ONTARIO v. HEDY HALPERN, ET AL. AND BETWEEN THE INTERFAITH COALITION ON MARRIAGE AND FAMILY v. HEDY HALPERN, ET AL. (Ont.) > > THE COURT: > > The motions to quash the leave applications are granted. > The motions to be added as parties are dismissed. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 13:25:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99IPg21018366 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:25:43 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3C0D31E6018F; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:25:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E90511E6018E for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:25:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001988B8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 14:18:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13466340 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 14:18:41 -0400 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h99IIde04360 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 14:18:39 -0400 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h99IIVsV8765682 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:18:33 -0500 Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:18:31 -0500 (CDT) From: poor old johnny ray X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Canadian Supremes - In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.0.4.77969 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann: > these, but do you know whether say BC would marry two American citizens, There have been several of these wedding announcements in the Times-Picayune, so I guess so. Come to think of it, a wedding announcement typically says nothing about citizenship; maybe these're Canuckistans living here. So, in short, ignore this entire post as it appears that I am talking out my ass. That is all. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 13:28:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99ISL21018418 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:28:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DA7D11E6018F; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:28:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D7511E6018E for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:28:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F7E97@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 14:21:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13466601 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 14:21:12 -0400 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h99ILCe04898 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 14:21:12 -0400 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h99IL6sV1622198 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:21:06 -0500 Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:21:06 -0500 (CDT) From: poor old johnny ray X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Thanks, Rita In-Reply-To: <189453578.1065644160@TWild.uri.edu> Message-ID: References: <188127625.1065642835@TWild.uri.edu> <3F84A5AF.9060809@swbell.net> <189453578.1065644160@TWild.uri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.0.4.77969 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Terry: > Thanks, I'll get that next. And a hearty thanks to Richard! My discovery of Sedaris was a luckily-timed antidote to my soul-scarring exposure to Ann Coulter, and I thought I owed him. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 13:42:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99IgL21018718 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:42:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 472EB1E60193; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:42:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2C131E60191 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:42:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F7F39@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 14:35:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13467878 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 14:35:20 -0400 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h99IZHe07309 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 14:35:17 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.143.19e106e6 (3948) for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 14:34:02 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <143.19e106e6.2cb7041a@aol.com> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 14:34:02 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Sean Hannity wins award To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/8/2003 10:47:00 PM Central Daylight Time, rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM writes: I like Obermann's sardonic wit and irreverent style. Especially when he says that he knows little about sports. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 14:40:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99JeG21019851 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 14:40:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 05F951E60194; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 14:40:00 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85E0E1E60190 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 14:39:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F818A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:33:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13473234 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:33:15 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h99JXEe17658 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:33:14 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.74.91]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HMI8PW02.ODQ for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 12:27:32 -0700 Message-ID: <3F85B7EE.48BE904A@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 12:33:02 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: What I want to know is... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ...after Jesse Ventura and Arnold Schwartzenegger, in what state is Carl Whithers gonna run for governor ? JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 15:10:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99KAG21020374 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:10:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4C70F1E60196; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:09:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC2161E60195 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:09:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00198CA0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 16:03:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13475671 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 16:03:14 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h99K3De23049 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 16:03:13 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 09 Oct 2003 16:03:13 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 16:02:54 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Canadian Supremes - Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h99KAG21020374 Anyone from anywhere can get married in Ontario or BC if they can get there. There have been quite a few cases of US same-sex couples getting hitched in the True North. Unfortunately, their union is only recognized in Canada. One couple (they were part of the Ontario Court of Appeal case and are both Torontonians) recently got into a bit of a scrap at the US border when they were required to fill out two sets of paperwork instead of one (as married couples are permitted to do). This is an indication of how the US is officially treating same-sex couples married elsewhere. BrP >>> aborkin@RAHUL.NET 10/09/03 02:05PM >>> YaY. I know it's a separate question whether the US would recognize these, but do you know whether say BC would marry two American citizens, or one Canadian / one American couples? Ann On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > Regardless of whether federal legislation pases to redefine marriage for all of Canada as "two persons" instead of "a man and a woman" today's ruling says that the BC and Ontario Court of Appeal decisions stand - a unanimous decision. > > BrP > > > ------------------------------- > OTTAWA, 9/10/03. THE SUPREME COURT OF CANADA HAS TODAY RENDERED JUDGMENT IN THE FOLLOWING MOTIONS. > > 29879 THE ASSOCIATION FOR MARRIAGE AND THE FAMILY IN ONTARIO v. HEDY HALPERN, ET AL. AND BETWEEN THE INTERFAITH COALITION ON MARRIAGE AND FAMILY v. HEDY HALPERN, ET AL. (Ont.) > > THE COURT: > > The motions to quash the leave applications are granted. > The motions to be added as parties are dismissed. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 15:12:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99KCa21020441 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:12:36 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9BDFC1E60196; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:12:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D2A61E60195 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:12:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F8278@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 16:05:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13475831 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 16:05:35 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h99K5Ve23479 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 16:05:32 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 09 Oct 2003 16:05:31 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 16:05:08 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: What I want to know is... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h99KCa21020441 I think Bobcat Goldthwait should run for something. I know he grew up in Syracuse, but is he still a NewYorker? Watch out Pataki! BrP >>> williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU 10/09/03 03:33PM >>> ...after Jesse Ventura and Arnold Schwartzenegger, in what state is Carl Whithers gonna run for governor ? JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 15:20:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99KKY21020570 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:20:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 508ED1E600B9; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:20:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C4A51E60006 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:20:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F82B9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 16:13:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13476554 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 16:13:33 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h99KDWe25059 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 16:13:32 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 09 Oct 2003 16:13:32 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 16:13:04 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: They rioted... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h99KKY21020570 *gasp* It's been 30 years since Quadrophenia. *gasp*gasp* and my oldest kid turns 28 tomorrow yikes BrP >>> awild@URI.EDU 10/09/03 02:05PM >>> 'Too easy... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 1:27 PM Subject: Re: They rioted... If I can identify the quote will you cut my hair? BrP >>> awild@URI.EDU 10/09/03 01:14PM >>> Who can: Identify that quote... "... when a gang of nearly a thousand youths entered the Grand Hotel in pursuit of two, leather clad, rockers." From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 15:25:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99KPt21020625 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:25:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D83E11E600B9; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:25:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4F101E60027 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:25:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F82E2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 16:18:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13476958 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 16:18:53 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h99KIre25850 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 16:18:53 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h99KIq8b022692 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 16:18:52 -0400 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h99KIqfC009921 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 16:18:52 -0400 Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 16:16:43 -0400 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Thanks, Rita Message-ID: <261496484.1065716203@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: References: <188127625.1065642835@TWild.uri.edu> <3F84A5AF.9060809@swbell.net> <189453578.1065644160@TWild.uri.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --On Thursday, October 09, 2003 1:21 PM -0500 poor old johnny ray wrote: > > My discovery of Sedaris was a luckily-timed > antidote to my soul-scarring exposure to Ann > Coulter, and I thought I owed him. Are you healed? Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 15:34:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99KY821020750 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:34:08 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D08331E60027; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:33:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94C4F1E60006 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:33:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F8379@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 16:27:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13478050 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 16:27:07 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h99KR7e27902 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 16:27:07 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h99KR68b023134 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 16:27:06 -0400 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h99KR6fC011994 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 16:27:06 -0400 Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 16:24:58 -0400 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: They rioted... Message-ID: <261990734.1065716698@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > *gasp*gasp* and my oldest kid turns 28 tomorrow > > yikes > > BrP Happy First Father's Day! Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 15:53:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99Krf21021119 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:53:41 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 97F291E600B9; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:53:24 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 662131E60027 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:53:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F841F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 16:46:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13479775 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 16:46:40 -0400 Received: from imo-m03.mx.aol.com (imo-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.6]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h99Kkee31533 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 16:46:40 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1c7.100b09e8 (4196) for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 16:45:56 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1c7.100b09e8.2cb72304@aol.com> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 16:45:56 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] What I want to know is... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/9/2003 2:34:21 PM Central Daylight Time, williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU writes: ...after Jesse Ventura and Arnold Schwartzenegger, in what state is Carl Whithers gonna run for governor ? I think Garth Brooks should run for governor of Oklahoma. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 15:59:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99Kxv21021185 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:59:57 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8FCAA1E60027; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:59:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A4811E60006 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:59:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F842B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 16:52:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13480067 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 16:52:56 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h99Kqte32264 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 16:52:55 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-64.gwi.net [216.195.156.64]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h99KqoQa019331; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 16:52:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031009165009.00b4b968@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 16:50:29 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: No food! In-Reply-To: <8677288fa5.88fa586772@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:05 PM 10/9/2003 -0400, Marie Ascher wrote: > > >Speaking of which, guess who's finally coming home this weekend... > > > > What is his name? > >We're calling him Laszlo. I'm not sure about his official AKC name. The >woman who founded Copper Creek Vizslas tended to name the dogs after >Beatles songs, so I'm thinking Copper Creek's Laszlo's Golden Slumbers. >Although I've got some time to think about that. Anyone got one? Spot. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 17:27:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99MRw21023860 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:27:58 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00199122@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:20:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13486972 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:20:33 -0400 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h99MKXe11923 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:20:33 -0400 Received: from [68.17.134.5] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 09 Oct 2003 15:20:32 PDT Message-ID: <20031009222032.26014.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:20:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: following Rashmi's footsteps To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031009173352.00b4adf8@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lots of people were taking a > break at the > Featherbed, which continues to hold a lot of water. > I took several > pictures---hope to have them up on some website or > another soon. Yes, photos, please. :-] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 17:31:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99MVS21023963 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:31:29 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00199142@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:24:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13487180 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:23:55 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h99MNte12373 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:23:55 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.74.122]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HMIGMA03.1F7 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:18:10 -0700 Message-ID: <3F85E29F.F16EFA96@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 15:35:11 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: What I want to know is... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: > And when will we have a Senator Predator? We already did. She's in town for the debate. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 17:55:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99Mtt21024503 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:55:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A0EF31E60196; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:55:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71FB11E60197 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:55:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F8702@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:14:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13486612 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:14:21 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h99MELe11106 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:14:21 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.151.245]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031009221432.YBZR9345.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:14:32 -0400 Message-ID: <3F85DDB8.DF15EA54@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 17:14:16 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: RitaC References: <200310091207.h99C7P74018289@ra.msstate.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > may go buy one in the office of the person whose name is on the > sign as the seller of them. But that will be later today. She's > not here yet, and I have many miles to go before I read. I forgot. Today was another totally crammed day. Maybe I'll remember tomorrow, though it also promises to be less than leisurely. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 17:55:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99Mtt21024505 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:55:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A96041E6019B; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:55:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79A151E60199 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:55:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F8700@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:17:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13486738 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:17:05 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h99MGoe11430 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:16:50 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.151.245]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031009221702.YCVC9345.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:17:02 -0400 Message-ID: <3F85DE4E.217D96F2@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 17:16:46 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: No food! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > > Viszlas. I should get a picture of Vinnie on point. > > Speaking of which, guess who's finally coming home this weekend... That is exciting!! Spencer just had a bath, btw, so that he will look his best on the homecoming float tomorrow afternoon. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 17:55:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99Mtt21024515 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:55:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EB2571E6019C; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:55:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B71241E6019D for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:55:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F8777@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:35:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13487616 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:35:28 -0400 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h99MZRe13627 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:35:28 -0400 Received: from [68.17.134.5] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 09 Oct 2003 15:22:54 PDT Message-ID: <20031009222254.55911.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:22:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: No food! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F85DE4E.217D96F2@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > That is exciting!! > > Spencer just had a bath, btw, so that he will look > his best on the > homecoming float tomorrow afternoon. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Does he have to wear anything special, like a tux? Can he feel the excitement in the air? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 17:55:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99Mtt21024501 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:55:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9BF011E6019A; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:55:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 688C01E60191 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:55:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F85FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:39:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13484204 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:39:46 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h99Ldje06338 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:39:45 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-64.gwi.net [216.195.156.64]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h99LdgQW025188 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:39:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031009173352.00b4adf8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 17:39:40 -0400 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: following Rashmi's footsteps Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Today, Bonnie dropped me off on the Cadillac summit (yeah, right---the North Ridge was more than I wanted to do). I hiked the South Ridge down to Blackwoods and then took the shuttle bus back to town. It was a great day---mid 60s, a light breeze from the north, clear and sunny. The small maples in the draws or gullies on Cadillac were in full color. Long-range photography wasn't that great; there was a bit of haze, thanks to our neighbors to the west. Lots of people were taking a break at the Featherbed, which continues to hold a lot of water. I took several pictures---hope to have them up on some website or another soon. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 17:55:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99Mtu21024517 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:55:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 300AD1E60191; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:55:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEBD11E6019D for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:55:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F8796@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:47:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13488049 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:47:36 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h99MlZe14466 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:47:35 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.151.245]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031009224746.YLMW11200.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:47:46 -0400 Message-ID: <3F85E583.C109F828@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 17:47:31 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: No food! References: <20031009222254.55911.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Does he have to wear anything special, like a tux? He's going to be nude except for his collar and his Humane Society bandana. > Can he feel the excitement in the air? Yes, I think so. I haven't really told him the full story yet, since I don't want him to lie awake all night worrying about whether he'll look good and how he should behave on the float. But he does seem to sense something. He came bounding up to me at the time he thought was walk time, and I took him to the bathtub instead. It was interesting to see him catch on what was happening. He was coming up the hall and suddenly came to a screeching halt, digging in as best he could. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 17:55:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99Mtt21024504 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:55:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A4C771E60197; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:55:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75B3C1E60198 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:55:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F86FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:15:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13486689 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:15:39 -0400 Received: from web20503.mail.yahoo.com (web20503.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.138]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h99MFce11315 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:15:39 -0400 Received: from [68.17.134.5] by web20503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 09 Oct 2003 15:15:38 PDT Message-ID: <20031009221538.11183.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:15:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Canadian Supremes - To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Come to think of it, a wedding announcement > typically says nothing about citizenship; > maybe these're Canuckistans living here. > > So, in short, ignore this entire post as it > appears that I am talking out my ass. But you are so much better at it than many others. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 17:55:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99Mtt21024512 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:55:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DFF371E6019F; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:55:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A89661E60198 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:55:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F8744@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:22:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13487080 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:22:03 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h99MM3e12118 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:22:03 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.151.245]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031009222214.YEQV9345.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:22:14 -0400 Message-ID: <3F85DF86.257001A1@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 17:21:58 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Canadian Supremes - References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin wrote: > > YaY. I know it's a separate question whether the US would recognize > these, but do you know whether say BC would marry two American citizens, > or one Canadian / one American couples? Haven't there been a good many USAers doing same-sex marriages in Canada? Not that the marriages are officially recognized when they return home, of course, but, as you say, that is a separate issue. People often get married in other countries, don't they? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 17:55:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99Mtt21024514 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:55:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E3DB31E60198; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:55:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB81D1E60199 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:55:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F8732@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:25:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13487222 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:25:14 -0400 Received: from web20506.mail.yahoo.com (web20506.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h99MPEe12479 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:25:14 -0400 Received: from [68.17.134.5] by web20506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 09 Oct 2003 15:25:13 PDT Message-ID: <20031009222513.72896.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:25:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Canadian Supremes - To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F85DF86.257001A1@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Haven't there been a good many USAers doing same-sex > marriages in > Canada? Not that the marriages are officially > recognized when they > return home, of course, but, as you say, that is a > separate issue. > > People often get married in other countries, don't > they? I thought many same-sex marriages took place in this country, in certain states/cities. Have I been hearing wrong? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 17:55:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99Mtt21024516 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:55:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F1A281E601A1; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:55:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB1421E6019E for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:55:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F8788@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:44:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13487925 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:44:28 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h99MiRe14195 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:44:27 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.151.245]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031009224438.YKIQ11200.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:44:38 -0400 Message-ID: <3F85E4C7.4CD7BE4B@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 17:44:23 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Canadian Supremes - References: <20031009222513.72896.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > I thought many same-sex marriages took place in this > country, in certain states/cities. Have I been > hearing wrong? Good question. I've heard something like that also, I think, but maybe it's some kind of marriage situation -- like not counting in most contexts. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 17:55:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99Mtt21024502 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:55:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9E62C1E60191; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:55:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E6591E60196 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:55:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F862A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:43:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13484461 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:43:43 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f17.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.17]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h99Lhee06783 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:43:40 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 14:43:35 -0700 Received: from 64.24.186.182 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 09 Oct 2003 21:43:34 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.24.186.182] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: What I want to know is... Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 21:43:34 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Oct 2003 21:43:35.0051 (UTC) FILETIME=[640CA5B0:01C38EAE] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU JMW: >...after Jesse Ventura and Arnold Schwartzenegger, in what state is >Carl Whithers gonna run for governor ? And when will we have a Senator Predator? _________________________________________________________________ Add MSN 8 Internet Software to your existing Internet access and enjoy patented spam protection and more. Sign up now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/byoa From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 17:55:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99Mtt21024513 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:55:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E60931E60199; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:55:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF89E1E6019C for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:55:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F8747@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:29:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13487431 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:29:36 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h99MTae13078 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:29:36 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.151.245]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031009222948.YHEP9345.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:29:48 -0400 Message-ID: <3F85E14C.5FAE773@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 17:29:32 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: What I want to know is... References: <3F85E29F.F16EFA96@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > We already did. She's in town for the debate. Debate. That reminds me that there's a debate tonight at the same time as Survivor. This is the bad thing about dish -- I can't watch one channel while taping another. Actually, there ought to be a way I could do it since the one I'll be watching (Survivor, of course) is on a non-dish channel -- one I pick up via the little antenna that is connected to the dish. I guess if I put a tape in and told the VCR to record channel 4, which is what you always tell it with a dish, then told the DirecTV menu to go to the debate channel at 7, but then hit the button you can hit to switch to air, it might work. But then it might not work. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 17:57:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99MvM21024581 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:57:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AD85E1E60195; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:57:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A7F21E60191 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:57:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F87B1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:50:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13488182 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:50:20 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h99MoJe14757 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:50:20 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.151.245]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031009225030.YMPS11200.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:50:30 -0400 Message-ID: <3F85E627.58900171@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 17:50:15 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Missing a Concert Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The Starkville Symphony Orchestra is playing on the plaza in front of a Main Street bank, starting at 6. I got the word from one of my lunch friends who plays in it that it would last only 50 minutes, which means I could get back in time for Survivor at 7. I was considering it, but life has been just way too complicated lately to take on another complication -- a watching of my watch and racing home in the nick of time. I'm just not going to go. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 18:01:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99N1c21024685 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:01:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8283A1E60196; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:01:20 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 521111E60195 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:01:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F87B9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:54:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13488291 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:54:36 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h99MsZe15171 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:54:35 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.151.245]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031009225446.YOCL11200.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:54:46 -0400 Message-ID: <3F85E727.C5DEFFD2@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 17:54:31 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Glasses (att: Rashmi -- a shopping question) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I have a new glasses prescription (why did my right eye suddenly develop astigmatism when it had just been near-sighted for years??). I'm tired of my old frames and would like to have some larger ones. But larger ones don't exist. When are large frames going to make a come-back? And do frames wear out? Like if I have the new lenses put into these same old frames, might the frames die totally at some point in the not-too-distant future? They're getting pretty old. Iow, I'm thinking that the prudent thing to do is go on and get new frames. But I hate that all the frames are little, many of them even littler than my current ones. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 18:20:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h99NKJ21025024 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:20:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C917A1E60198; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:20:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 961911E60197 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:20:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F8815@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 19:13:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13489419 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 19:13:17 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h99NDHe17165 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 19:13:17 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.151.245]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031009231327.YVXA11200.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 19:13:27 -0400 Message-ID: <3F85EB88.EC508A3C@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 18:13:12 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: President Cheney? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Interesting article in today's Globe & Mail: http://tinyurl.com/qc6m But it doesn't address the matter of President Cheney. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 19:18:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9A0I821026059 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 19:18:08 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E97A91E6019F; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 19:17:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B95C41E6019E for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 19:17:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F894B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 20:11:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13492296 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 20:11:00 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9A0B0e22492 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 20:11:00 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003101000105401300qaum7e> (Authid: adamh1); Fri, 10 Oct 2003 00:10:54 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: No food! Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 20:10:53 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031009165009.00b4b968@pop.gwi.net> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >We're calling him Laszlo. I'm not sure about his official AKC name. The > >woman who founded Copper Creek Vizslas tended to name the dogs after > >Beatles songs, so I'm thinking Copper Creek's Laszlo's Golden Slumbers. > >Although I've got some time to think about that. Anyone got one? Why not Laszlo's Career? --Adam adamh1@comcast.net From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 19:21:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9A0LJ21026079 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 19:21:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5F8401E6019E; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 19:21:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C7221E6019D for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 19:21:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F893E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 20:14:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13492456 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 20:14:16 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9A0EGe22716 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 20:14:16 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9A0EDBh008311 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 19:14:14 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001001c38ec4$8357a800$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3F85E727.C5DEFFD2@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Glasses (att: Rashmi -- a shopping question) Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 19:21:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I have a new glasses prescription (why did my right eye suddenly develop > astigmatism when it had just been near-sighted for years??). I'm tired > of my old frames and would like to have some larger ones. But larger > ones don't exist. When are large frames going to make a come-back? And > do frames wear out? Like if I have the new lenses put into these same > old frames, might the frames die totally at some point in the > not-too-distant future? They're getting pretty old. Iow, I'm thinking > that the prudent thing to do is go on and get new frames. But I hate > that all the frames are little, many of them even littler than my > current ones. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Yes, frames wear out. When I got new lenses this year they refused to put them into my old frames because they said the frames were too worn . . . and that if the frames broke they could not transfer the lenses into different frames. - D. M. - From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 19:28:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9A0SR21026192 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 19:28:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 037D11E601A6; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 19:28:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9B571E60053 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 19:28:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00199377@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 20:21:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13492713 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 20:21:24 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9A0LOe23274 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 20:21:24 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A7l2b-0008Vs-GF for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 09 Oct 2003 20:21:57 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031009170534.026c9398@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 17:22:11 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: President Cheney? In-Reply-To: <3F85EB88.EC508A3C@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, >But it doesn't address the matter of President Cheney. Wouldn't be worse than President Bush+Cheney -- and Cheney may need a charismatic front man like Bush to get re-elected. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 19:54:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9A0sV21026646 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 19:54:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 039491E601A5; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 19:54:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF82B1E601A2 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 19:54:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F89C0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 20:47:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13493548 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 20:47:28 -0400 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9A0lRe25161 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 20:47:27 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9A0lPkB017632 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:47:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F860162.6090109@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 19:46:26 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: RitaC References: <200310091207.h99C7P74018289@ra.msstate.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > I just saw a sign in the mailroom saying "It's here -- the new > issue of the Jabberwock." So it is apparently finally out. I > may go buy one in the office of the person whose name is on the > sign as the seller of them. But that will be later today. She's > not here yet, and I have many miles to go before I read. I received my copies Saturday, and was quite excited to make the last page :). I sent a thank-you note to Sarah Asmus, but if you see her, please let her know how pleased I am. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 19:55:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9A0tb21026671 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 19:55:37 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3ACB11E601A5; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 19:55:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D21F1E601A2 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 19:55:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F89D4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 20:48:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13493586 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 20:48:34 -0400 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9A0mYe25225 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 20:48:34 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9A0mWkB018757 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F8601A5.9000509@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 19:47:33 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: No food! References: <8677288fa5.88fa586772@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: >>>Speaking of which, guess who's finally coming home this weekend... >>> >>What is his name? >> > > We're calling him Laszlo. I'm not sure about his official AKC name. The woman who founded Copper Creek Vizslas tended to name the dogs after Beatles songs, so I'm thinking Copper Creek's Laszlo's Golden Slumbers. Although I've got some time to think about that. Anyone got one? You can only use 26 characters. The theme for Vinnie's litter was the Green Bay Packers, thus Sailwind Vince Lombardi JH CGC. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 20:26:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9A1QQ21027358 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 20:26:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 93AD31E601A8; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 20:26:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 594C41E600B7 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 20:26:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F8A3D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:19:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13494684 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:19:22 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9A1JMe27978 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:19:22 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20031010011916014009hgt0e> (Authid: adamh1); Fri, 10 Oct 2003 01:19:16 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "meebers" Subject: Attachments? Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:19:16 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Are any of you meebers using Microsoft Outlook suddenly getting HTML attachments on all your Words-L mail as I am? --Adam adamh1@comcast.net From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 20:28:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9A1SL21027403 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 20:28:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 032941E601A8; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 20:28:03 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C48AA1E601A7 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 20:28:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F8A46@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:21:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13494767 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:21:18 -0400 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9A1LIe28224 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:21:18 -0400 Received: from [68.17.134.5] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 09 Oct 2003 18:21:17 PDT Message-ID: <20031010012117.67657.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:21:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: President Cheney? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F85EB88.EC508A3C@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Interesting article in today's Globe & Mail: > > http://tinyurl.com/qc6m > > But it doesn't address the matter of President > Cheney. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Surely it would be relatively easy to tie Cheney in as a collaborator. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 20:51:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9A1pH21027736 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 20:51:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7C44C1E600B7; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 20:50:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C9601E600AB for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 20:50:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F8A77@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:44:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13495558 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:44:13 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9A1iDe30314 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:44:13 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.151.245]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031010014421.GASM28442.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:44:21 -0400 Message-ID: <3F860EE8.4DE924C8@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 20:44:08 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Glasses (att: Rashmi -- a shopping question) References: <3F85E727.C5DEFFD2@maynor.net> <001001c38ec4$8357a800$facadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > Yes, frames wear out. When I got new > lenses this year they refused to put them > into my old frames because they said the > frames were too worn . . . and that if the > frames broke they could not transfer the > lenses into different frames. I can see how it would be iffy to transfer lenses to different frames since the frames would have to be of identical size and shape. I'm thinking that I really should go on and get new frames. I just hate that all the frames these days seem to be little. My old optician, who was very good and had a good selection of frames, went out of business a while back -- he's the one Marie met in a bar in NYC. There's a teeny, tiny optical dispensary at my ophthalmologist's office (I go to an ophthalmologist regularly now because of the borderline glaucoma, not because I think one should go to one for regular eye-testing), and I guess my old optometrist's office still has an optical dispensary, though I would feel hesitant going there since I no longer use that optometrist's services, though I would surely be welcomed by his optician and I have good thoughts about the optometrist since he gives a whole day each year to the Humane Society -- as in all money made that day is contributed. And he would understand the point of my going to an ophthalmalogist because of the eye pressure. In fact, he's the one who first ascertained that I'm glaucomic. And then there's Walmart, with by far the best selection of frames. But they're still all little. I looked there recently because I knew this day was coming pretty soon. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 20:55:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9A1ta21027780 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 20:55:36 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7DD311E601AA; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 20:55:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A9B81E601A8 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 20:55:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F8AAC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:48:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13495750 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:48:32 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9A1mWe30626 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:48:32 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.151.245]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031010014840.GCOR28442.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:48:40 -0400 Message-ID: <3F860FEB.77527AC5@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 20:48:27 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: President Cheney? References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031009170534.026c9398@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > >But it doesn't address the matter of President Cheney. > > Wouldn't be worse than President Bush+Cheney -- and Cheney may need a > charismatic front man like Bush to get re-elected. I had thought about that and had also thought about the opposite pov re re-election -- that Cheney would be so secretive, wily, and reclusive that the general voting masses wouldn't see him saying dumb things on tv. But then the general voting masses apparently don't realize what a sham Dubya is and react re what you said above -- to perceived charisma. How anybody can see Dubya as charismatic, I just don't get. But I do realize that some people do see him that way. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 20:56:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9A1uB21027796 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 20:56:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7C6671E601A8; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 20:55:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E3DD1E600B7 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 20:55:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F8AAF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:49:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13495770 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:49:07 -0400 Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.68] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9A1n7e30667 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:49:07 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HMI00IWNQDTUU@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 09 Oct 2003 21:49:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Thu, 09 Oct 2003 21:45:37 -0400 Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 21:45:37 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: No food! To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <400e242c03.42c03400e2@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Adam Hartfield > Why not Laszlo's Career? :-) That one received an immediate veto. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 21:01:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9A21E21027871 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:01:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5F4571E601A8; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:00:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DF1D1E600B7 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:00:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F8AC0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:54:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13495930 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:54:10 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9A1sAe31002 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:54:10 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.151.245]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031010015418.GEZM28442.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:54:18 -0400 Message-ID: <3F86113D.1C0991CE@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 20:54:05 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: RitaC References: <200310091207.h99C7P74018289@ra.msstate.edu> <3F860162.6090109@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > I received my copies Saturday, and was quite excited to make > the last page :). I sent a thank-you note to Sarah Asmus, > but if you see her, please let her know how pleased I am. Now that I know who she is, I realize that I do see her almost every day. She was at the symposium at my house. Lemme look at the pictures and show her to you.... Ok, coke bottle in hand in this picture: http://maynor.net/Temp/Symposium/11.jpg I remember laughing and telling her that the usual symposium byob announcements didn't mean coke -- that the hosts always had plenty of coke around. Middle of this picture, green glass under hand: http://maynor.net/Temp/Symposium/16.jpg Second from right in this picture, very ugly expression on her face (by accident -- she does not normally have ugly expressions on her face): http://maynor.net/Temp/Symposium/28.jpg -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 21:02:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9A22e21027885 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:02:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 47F281E600B7; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:02:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1975C1E600AB for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:02:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001994B6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:55:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13495957 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:54:55 -0400 Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9A1sse31027 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:54:54 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HMI004I3QNIWP@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 09 Oct 2003 21:54:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Thu, 09 Oct 2003 21:51:07 -0400 Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 21:51:07 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: No food! To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > You can only use 26 characters. > > The theme for Vinnie's litter was the Green Bay Packers, thus > Sailwind Vince Lombardi JH CGC. The 26 characters excludes the JH CGC part right? Well, then, anyway, he could just be Copper Creek's Laszlo or something similar, but it's kinda blah. I like "Laszlo" though -- that's staying. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 21:04:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9A24621027903 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:04:06 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 857C01E600B7; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:03:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57DCD1E600AB for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:03:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F8AC6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:57:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13496122 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:57:03 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9A1v2e31241 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:57:02 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.151.245]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031010015710.GGDS28442.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:57:10 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8611EA.1BCB1CD0@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 20:56:58 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: President Cheney? References: <20031010012117.67657.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Surely it would be relatively easy to tie Cheney in as > a collaborator. Interesting question. Who would be Pres if both were impeached? Hastert? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 21:08:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9A28121027976 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:08:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0DD3E1E601A8; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:07:42 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEE451E600AB for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:07:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F8AF5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:00:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13496369 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:00:57 -0400 Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.9]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9A20ve31602 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:00:57 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HMI005HBQXGXS@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 09 Oct 2003 22:00:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Thu, 09 Oct 2003 21:57:28 -0400 Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 21:57:28 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: No food! To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > That is exciting!! I KNOW!! > Spencer just had a bath, btw, so that he will look his best on the > homecoming float tomorrow afternoon. Does he have a costume? Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 21:16:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9A2G921028108 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:16:09 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 71ACE1E601A8; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:15:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3877A1E600AB for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:15:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F8B19@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:09:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13496733 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:09:05 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9A295e32429 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:09:05 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.151.245]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031010020916.BFJI11200.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:09:16 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8614BD.EE257567@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 21:09:01 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: No food! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > > Spencer just had a bath, btw, so that he will look his best on the > > homecoming float tomorrow afternoon. > > Does he have a costume? You and Lynne are making me think I should dress him up more. Bernard's red velvet cape would fit Spencer, even though Spencer is much bigger, but it will be much too hot for such garb. And maroon would be more appropriate in a homecoming parade. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 21:20:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9A2KN21028171 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:20:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 847541E601A8; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:20:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5335E1E600AB for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:20:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F8B15@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:13:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13496866 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:13:20 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9A2DJe00546 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:13:19 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.151.245]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031010021331.BGSC11200.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:13:31 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8615BB.17D6209D@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 21:13:15 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: No food! References: <3F8614BD.EE257567@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > but it will be much too hot for such garb. And maroon would be more > appropriate in a homecoming parade. I just googled and found a place I can order an MSU t-shirt for Spencer from, but it doesn't show a picture. And I don't think it would arrive in time. http://www.sportsfanimals.com/NCAA_t-shirts.htm I bet the MSU bookstore or some of the off-campus stores have something like that, though. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 21:25:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9A2PA21028314 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:25:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 392361E601A8; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:24:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B75E1E600AB for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:24:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F8B98@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:15:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13497864 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:15:54 -0400 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9A2Ffe02483 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:15:41 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.12e.32e3e0c8 (4426) for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:15:15 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <12e.32e3e0c8.2cb77033@aol.com> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:15:15 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] No food! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I can't imagine putting any clothes on Daisy; she wouldn't hold still! Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 21:39:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9A2dM21028582 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:39:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A33271E601A8; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:39:03 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FC081E600BF for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:39:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0019962E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:32:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13500100 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:32:19 -0400 Received: from web20501.mail.yahoo.com (web20501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.136]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9A2WIe07127 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:32:18 -0400 Received: from [68.17.134.5] by web20501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 09 Oct 2003 19:32:17 PDT Message-ID: <20031010023217.62131.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 19:32:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: No food! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote: > > You can only use 26 characters. > > > > The theme for Vinnie's litter was the Green > Bay Packers, thus > > Sailwind Vince Lombardi JH CGC. > > The 26 characters excludes the JH CGC part right? > > Well, then, anyway, he could just be Copper Creek's > Laszlo or something similar, but it's kinda blah. I > like "Laszlo" though -- that's staying. > > Marie What about Victor Laszlo, the character in Casablanca? Perhaps it's time to get away from the Beatles image. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 21:45:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9A2jL21028682 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:45:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A3D941E601A8; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:45:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7590F1E600BF for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:45:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F8C62@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:38:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13500396 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:38:18 -0400 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9A2cHe07632 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:38:17 -0400 Received: from [68.17.134.5] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 09 Oct 2003 19:38:17 PDT Message-ID: <20031010023817.57305.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 19:38:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: No food! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F8615BB.17D6209D@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I just googled and found a place I can order an MSU > t-shirt for Spencer > from, but it doesn't show a picture. And I don't > think it would arrive > in time. > > http://www.sportsfanimals.com/NCAA_t-shirts.htm > > I bet the MSU bookstore or some of the off-campus > stores have something > like that, though. There's always a next time. And he needs an old school tie. BTW, is Morticia from Mississippi still "surviving"? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 21:50:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9A2op21028728 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:50:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D9B141E601AA; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:50:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4CA11E601A8 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:50:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0019964C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:43:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13500610 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:43:47 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9A2hke08048 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:43:46 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 273E42B8E8; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 19:43:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD7F2B8E6 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 19:43:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 19:43:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: How To Explain Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU How to explain to my now boss that the idea of having employees write their own evaluations as a warm-up or precedent to -his- evaluation, just really sucks? And why he's not getting the enthusiastic here's-all-I-did-this-year response he wants? -shudder- Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 21:52:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9A2qC21028751 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:52:12 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BD85D1E601AA; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:51:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F15A1E601A8 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:51:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0019965B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:45:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13500653 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:45:08 -0400 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9A2j7e08185 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:45:08 -0400 Received: from [68.17.134.5] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 09 Oct 2003 19:45:07 PDT Message-ID: <20031010024507.60099.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 19:45:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: No food! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <12e.32e3e0c8.2cb77033@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > I can't imagine putting any clothes on Daisy; she > wouldn't hold still! > I'm sending a dog book I found in my junk, but I don't think it addresses the costuming of dogs. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 21:55:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9A2tv21028794 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:55:57 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EDBF31E601AB; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:55:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC6721E601AA for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:55:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F8C7D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:48:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13500794 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:48:53 -0400 Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9A2mre08514 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:48:53 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1e3.11531eb0 (4459) for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:47:57 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1e3.11531eb0.2cb777dd@aol.com> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:47:57 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] No food! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/9/2003 9:45:29 PM Central Daylight Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: I'm sending a dog book I found in my junk, but I don't think it addresses the costuming of dogs. Thanks! Does it have anything on mini-horses, as in "eats like a"? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 21:58:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9A2wW21028848 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:58:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9ABF11E601AF; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:58:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CAD71E601AC for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:58:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0019967C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:51:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13501028 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:51:29 -0400 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9A2pSe09008 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:51:28 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_dev1.2.) id c.a1.3eec9374 (3858) for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:51:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:51:18 EDT Subject: Re: They rioted... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/9/2003 2:13:42 PM, Prbarfoo@SYR.EDU writes: >gasp*gasp* and my oldest kid turns 28 tomorrow From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 21:58:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9A2we21028856 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:58:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8EFD81E601B0; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:58:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AAFD1E601AF for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:58:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F8CA6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:51:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13501043 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:51:36 -0400 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9A2pae09038 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:51:36 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.141.1a4d0acd (3858) for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:51:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <141.1a4d0acd.2cb778a2@aol.com> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:51:14 EDT Subject: Re: They rioted... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/9/2003 2:13:42 PM, Prbarfoo@SYR.EDU writes: >gasp*gasp* and my oldest kid turns 28 tomorrow What are you complaining about? My oldest From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 21:59:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9A2xp21028895 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:59:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A7CB71E601B0; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:59:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ADE21E601AF for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:59:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F8CCC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:52:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13501239 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:52:47 -0400 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9A2qke09295 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:52:46 -0400 Received: from [68.17.134.5] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 09 Oct 2003 19:52:45 PDT Message-ID: <20031010025246.94063.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 19:52:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: How To Explain To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Ann Borkin wrote: > How to explain to my now boss that the idea of > having employees write > their own evaluations as a warm-up or precedent to > -his- evaluation, just > really sucks? And why he's not getting the > enthusiastic > here's-all-I-did-this-year response he wants? > > -shudder- > > Ann Two years ago, our department was in the midst of this kind of mess. I can't think what bright psychologist came up with it; it's a dreadful idea. Most employees resented the boss for forcing this on us. The few that did not hate it were all to eager to blow their own horns. As we haven't had to do it since, I don't think it was at all successful. I LOATHED it. -shudder- __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 22:02:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9A32K21028967 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:02:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BD4C31E601B0; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:02:00 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FB511E601AF for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:02:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F8CE1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:55:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13501527 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:55:16 -0400 Received: from web20513.mail.yahoo.com (web20513.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9A2tFe09735 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:55:15 -0400 Received: from [68.17.134.5] by web20513.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 09 Oct 2003 19:55:15 PDT Message-ID: <20031010025515.55874.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 19:55:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: No food! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1e3.11531eb0.2cb777dd@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Thanks! Does it have anything on mini-horses, as in > "eats > like a"? I'm sure it's got things about diets, but that really shouldn't become a factor until Daisy reaches her adult size (about one year old). In the meantime, though, it will eat into your wallet heartily. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 22:03:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9A33A21028975 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:03:10 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F0D0B1E601B0; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:02:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C35231E601AF for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:02:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F8CFF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:56:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13501644 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:56:06 -0400 Received: from web20509.mail.yahoo.com (web20509.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.144]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9A2u6e09883 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:56:06 -0400 Received: from [68.17.134.5] by web20509.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 09 Oct 2003 19:56:05 PDT Message-ID: <20031010025605.45458.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 19:56:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: They rioted... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <141.1a4d0acd.2cb778a2@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Theo Groothof wrote: > In a message dated 10/9/2003 2:13:42 PM, > Prbarfoo@SYR.EDU writes: > > >gasp*gasp* and my oldest kid turns 28 tomorrow > > What are you complaining about? My oldest I'm afraid to ask. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 22:08:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9A38N21029044 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:08:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0B8BF1E601B0; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:08:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0A751E601AF for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:08:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F8D78@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 23:01:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13502977 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 23:01:19 -0400 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9A31Je11401 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 23:01:19 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_dev1.2.) id c.152.2528494e (4340) for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 23:00:47 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <152.2528494e.2cb77adf@aol.com> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 23:00:47 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] No food! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/9/2003 9:55:38 PM Central Daylight Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << I'm sure it's got things about diets, but that really shouldn't become a factor until Daisy reaches her adult size (about one year old). In the meantime, though, it will eat into your wallet heartily. >> It's hard to feed Sweetie without Daisy getting into it. Sweetie is a very dainty eater, and Daisy eats as if everything is hers for the taking. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 23:46:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9A4kM21030539 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 23:46:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B4D3E1E601B8; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 23:46:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 820961E601B7 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 23:46:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F922F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 0:39:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13512452 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 00:39:17 -0400 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9A4dHe22541 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 00:39:17 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.102.3706bcf4 (3858) for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 00:39:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <102.3706bcf4.2cb791e9@aol.com> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 00:39:05 EDT Subject: my oldest kid To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/9/2003 8:56:19 PM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: >> >gasp*gasp* and my oldest kid turns 28 tomorrow >> >> What are you complaining about? > >I'm afraid to ask. > Would you believe 43? Shudders!!! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 9 23:48:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9A4mW21030573 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 23:48:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 559DB1E601BC; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 23:48:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 271601E601BB for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 23:48:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F9217@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 0:41:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13512523 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 00:41:27 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9A4fRe22668 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 00:41:27 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9A4fOBh003599 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 23:41:25 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000401c38ee9$d54997c0$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <102.3706bcf4.2cb791e9@aol.com> Subject: Re: my oldest kid Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 23:49:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > In a message dated 10/9/2003 8:56:19 PM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: > > >> >gasp*gasp* and my oldest kid turns 28 tomorrow > >> > >> What are you complaining about? > > > >I'm afraid to ask. > > > Would you believe 43? Shudders!!! > > Theo 51. I win. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 10 00:01:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9A51221030806 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 00:01:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0A77B1E601BA; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 00:00:42 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D02E31E601B7 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 00:00:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F924B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 0:53:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13513061 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 00:53:57 -0400 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9A4rve24022 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 00:53:57 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1ee.112e18ff (3858) for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 00:53:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1ee.112e18ff.2cb7955d@aol.com> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 00:53:49 EDT Subject: Re: my oldest kid To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/9/2003 10:41:40 PM, dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM writes: >51. I win. I give! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 10 01:41:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9A6fE21000355 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 01:41:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 133C71E601BC; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 01:40:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7C121E601BB for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 01:40:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F942C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 2:34:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13517455 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 02:34:09 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9A6Y8e01117 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 02:34:08 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h9A6Y7DU023718 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 08:34:07 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h9A6Y6vE023716 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 08:34:06 +0200 Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 08:34:06 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: How To Explain Message-ID: <20031010063406.GA23680@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin: = How to explain to my now boss that the idea of having employees write = their own evaluations as a warm-up or precedent to -his- evaluation, just = really sucks? And why he's not getting the enthusiastic = here's-all-I-did-this-year response he wants? = = -shudder- = = Ann In my experience, if the boss asks you to write the evaluation, it means he isn't going to. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 10 01:43:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9A6hS21000422 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 01:43:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2B0081E601BB; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 01:43:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F103D1E60094 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 01:43:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F9431@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 2:36:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13517502 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 02:36:23 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9A6aMe01222 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 02:36:22 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h9A6aLDU023731 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 08:36:21 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h9A6aLMg023729 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 08:36:21 +0200 Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 08:36:21 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: my oldest kid Message-ID: <20031010063621.GB23680@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <102.3706bcf4.2cb791e9@aol.com> <000401c38ee9$d54997c0$facadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000401c38ee9$d54997c0$facadece@0018079268> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland: = > In a message dated 10/9/2003 8:56:19 PM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: = > = > >> >gasp*gasp* and my oldest kid turns 28 tomorrow = > >> = > >> What are you complaining about? = > > = > >I'm afraid to ask. = > > = > Would you believe 43? Shudders!!! = > = > Theo = = 51. I win. = = - D. M. Thank you, you're all making me feel young again (which I wasn't at all when I realized I did know the quote, but I couldn't place it). From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 10 01:51:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9A6pl21000569 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 01:51:48 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 091D41E601BD; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 01:51:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF5831E601BB for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 01:51:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F946F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 2:44:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13517994 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 02:44:42 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9A6ife02053 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 02:44:41 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h9A6ieDU023751 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 08:44:40 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h9A6id9J023749 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 08:44:39 +0200 Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 08:44:39 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Glasses (att: Rashmi -- a shopping question) Message-ID: <20031010064439.GC23680@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3F85E727.C5DEFFD2@maynor.net> <001001c38ec4$8357a800$facadece@0018079268> <3F860EE8.4DE924C8@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F860EE8.4DE924C8@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor: = first ascertained that I'm glaucomic. And then there's Walmart, with by = far the best selection of frames. But they're still all little. I = looked there recently because I knew this day was coming pretty soon. http://tinyurl.com/qez1 There are a couple more there under Women's Plastic. Is this the place where Pete got his glasses? Have your Birkenstocks come yet? 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From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 10 05:46:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9AAkG21004486 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 05:46:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 228931E601C7; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 05:45:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3A7C1E60105 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 05:45:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F9813@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 6:39:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13526490 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 06:39:09 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9AAd8e22049 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 06:39:09 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.139.107]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031010103910.BCQS1828.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 06:39:10 -0400 Message-ID: <3F868C49.54365EA8@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 05:39:05 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: No food! References: <20031010023817.57305.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > BTW, is Morticia from Mississippi still "surviving"? Yes. She did very well in last night's challenges, especially the reward challenge, although her tribe lost that one again, mainly thanks to Osten, who really does need to go now probably. He's the one who wanted to be voted out earlier but who was kept because he's strong. But he has not only been whiny but has also been problematic in physical challenges like last night's. It's because he apparently has swimming problems. Meanwhile, though, their tribe (Morgan) won the immunity challenge, since the other tribe (Drake) wanted them to. I'm not sure why Drake decided to vote off Christa or Burton. I don't know much about the people on that tribe yet, except for wonderful Rupert and obnoxious John. Anyway, Burton went last night. Rupert wasn't present since a sort of ps to the immunity challenge was that the winners got to choose one person from the other tribe to take back to their island for 24 (?) hours. They chose Rupert. That should be very interesting next week since it will probably start with Rupert's visit in the Morgan camp. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 10 05:51:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9AApA21004537 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 05:51:10 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 39CAE1E601C8; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 05:50:48 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09B731E601C7 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 05:50:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F9812@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 6:44:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13526619 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 06:44:03 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9AAi3e22346 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 06:44:03 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.139.107]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031010104404.BDOT1828.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 06:44:04 -0400 Message-ID: <3F868D6F.45AEDE87@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 05:43:59 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Glasses (att: Rashmi -- a shopping question) References: <3F85E727.C5DEFFD2@maynor.net> <001001c38ec4$8357a800$facadece@0018079268> <3F860EE8.4DE924C8@maynor.net> <20031010064439.GC23680@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > http://tinyurl.com/qez1 > > There are a couple more there under Women's Plastic. Is this the > place where Pete got his glasses? Thanks. I haven't looked at the url yet but will in a minute. I don't think I want to do mail-order glasses, however, since it's really important to feel the frames -- as in have one's nose and ears feel them. > Have your Birkenstocks come yet? No. I keep looking for them. I can't remember now exactly how long ago it was that I ordered them (though I do have the order screen saved somewhere and could find out) or what the estimate of shipping time was -- seems like maybe it was six or so weeks. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 10 05:55:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9AAtM21004581 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 05:55:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C5CEC1E601C9; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 05:54:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 983121E601C7 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 05:54:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0019A108@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 6:48:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13526635 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 06:48:14 -0400 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9AAmEe22670 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 06:48:14 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9AAmBkB012421 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 03:48:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F868E31.3000107@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 05:47:13 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: No food! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: >> You can only use 26 characters. >> >> The theme for Vinnie's litter was the Green Bay Packers, thus >>Sailwind Vince Lombardi JH CGC. >> > > The 26 characters excludes the JH CGC part right? Yes. Those are add-on titles. > Well, then, anyway, he could just be Copper Creek's Laszlo or something similar, but it's kinda blah. I like "Laszlo" though -- that's staying. The kennel name is awfully long. They register with the whole thing? -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 10 06:02:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9AB2321004671 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 06:02:03 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F27111E601C8; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 06:01:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4F811E601C7 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 06:01:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0019A12E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 6:54:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13526882 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 06:54:56 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9AAste23332 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 06:54:55 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.139.107]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031010105508.QOL1789.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 06:55:08 -0400 Message-ID: <3F868FFB.2462BF6@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 05:54:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Glasses (att: Rashmi -- a shopping question) References: <3F85E727.C5DEFFD2@maynor.net> <001001c38ec4$8357a800$facadece@0018079268> <3F860EE8.4DE924C8@maynor.net> <20031010064439.GC23680@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > http://tinyurl.com/qez1 I haven't looked at all of them yet -- will do so with interest later today, though. Those first frames are large but extremely ugly, imho. I'd rather find something more like my old red and blue ones -- the ones I was wearing upon first ftf'ing with many Wordlsers. Those were the ones I had right before my current ones. I do still have those frames -- both the red ones and the blue ones, I think, but they did have a big problem of the lenses falling out frequently. I'd prefer not to have that problem. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 10 06:18:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ABI221004861 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 06:18:03 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5DFB91E601C8; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 06:17:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FA551E601C7 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 06:17:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F9859@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 7:10:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13527320 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 07:10:54 -0400 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ABApe11285 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 07:10:51 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9ABAnkB022601 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 04:10:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F86937F.9060306@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 06:09:51 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: RitaC References: <200310091207.h99C7P74018289@ra.msstate.edu> <3F860162.6090109@swbell.net> <3F86113D.1C0991CE@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Rita Chapman wrote: > > >> I received my copies Saturday, and was quite excited to make >>the last page :). I sent a thank-you note to Sarah Asmus, >>but if you see her, please let her know how pleased I am. >> > > Now that I know who she is, I realize that I do see her almost every > day. She was at the symposium at my house. Lemme look at the pictures > and show her to you.... > > Ok, coke bottle in hand in this picture: > > http://maynor.net/Temp/Symposium/11.jpg > > I remember laughing and telling her that the usual symposium byob > announcements didn't mean coke -- that the hosts always had plenty of > coke around. > > Middle of this picture, green glass under hand: > > http://maynor.net/Temp/Symposium/16.jpg > > Second from right in this picture, very ugly expression on her face (by > accident -- she does not normally have ugly expressions on her face): > > http://maynor.net/Temp/Symposium/28.jpg Ah, so you're old friends and you didn't even know it! And I thought I was bad with names and faces *wink*. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 10 06:53:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ABro21005392 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 06:53:50 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9EF2A1E601A9; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 06:53:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CC331E600F7 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 06:53:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0019A1FC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 7:46:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13529240 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 07:46:37 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9ABkbe18227 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 07:46:37 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 07:46:37 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 07:46:09 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Canadian Supremes - Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h9ABro21005392 There are several places where there is a "domestic partner" or "civil union" situation. Those partnerships are limited to certain rights guaranteed by local or state law. The difference in Ontario and BC is that the definition of marriage itself was changed. BrP >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 10/09/03 06:44PM >>> Lynne Weber wrote: > I thought many same-sex marriages took place in this > country, in certain states/cities. Have I been > hearing wrong? Good question. I've heard something like that also, I think, but maybe it's some kind of marriage situation -- like not counting in most contexts. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 10 06:59:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ABxf21005576 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 06:59:41 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E27A21E600F7; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 06:59:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3C6B1E6009B for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 06:59:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F9946@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 7:52:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13529613 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 07:52:33 -0400 Received: from fe1.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ABqXe19175 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 07:52:33 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.199] (HELO bc.edu) by fe1.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.5) with ESMTP id 34217852 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 07:52:27 -0400 Message-ID: <3F869D7B.8070709@bc.edu> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 07:52:27 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Glasses (att: Rashmi -- a shopping question) References: <3F85E727.C5DEFFD2@maynor.net> <001001c38ec4$8357a800$facadece@0018079268> <3F860EE8.4DE924C8@maynor.net> <20031010064439.GC23680@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3F868D6F.45AEDE87@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <3F868D6F.45AEDE87@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > No. I keep looking for them. I can't remember now exactly how long ago > it was that I ordered them (though I do have the order screen saved > somewhere and could find out) or what the estimate of shipping time > was-- seems like maybe it was six or so weeks. > > > Evidence suggests that you placed the order some time in the first week of September. I have a "Sent" message dated August 30th that talks about your search. I believe that you placed an order within days of that using the url that steph provided. Rita L. -- Rita Leonard Information Technology Systems Services O'Neill Library 544 Phone: 617-552-3403 Email: rita.leonard@bc.edu "Whether you believe you can do a thing or not, you are right." Henry Ford From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 10 08:05:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9AD5D21013142 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 08:05:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 210581E601C8; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 08:04:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F291E600F7 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 08:04:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F9A54@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 8:58:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13532342 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 08:57:52 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9ACmbe26303 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 08:48:37 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 08:48:37 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 08:48:12 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Canadian Supremes - Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h9AD5D21013142 The order of succession is: The Vice President Speaker of the House President pro tempore of the SenateSecretary of State Secretary of the Treasury Secretary of Defense Attorney General Secretary of the Interior Secretary of Agriculture Secretary of Commerce Secretary of Labor Secretary of Health and Human Services Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Secretary of Transportation Secretary of Energy Secretary of Education Secretary of Veterans Affairs Secretary of Homeland Security >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 10/09/03 06:44PM >>> Lynne Weber wrote: > I thought many same-sex marriages took place in this > country, in certain states/cities. Have I been > hearing wrong? Good question. I've heard something like that also, I think, but maybe it's some kind of marriage situation -- like not counting in most contexts. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 10 08:05:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9AD5L21013174 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 08:05:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 58B5E1E601C8; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 08:04:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C2D1E600F7 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 08:04:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0019A373@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 8:58:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13531339 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 08:57:58 -0400 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ACTve24406 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 08:29:57 -0400 Received: from ra.msstate.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.12.10/8.12.8/ra_1.2) with ESMTP; id h9ACTtfb001463 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 07:29:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from maynor@localhost) by ra.msstate.edu (8.12.10/8.12.7/Submit) id h9ACTtMe001462 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 07:29:55 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 07:29:55 -0500 (CDT) From: Natalie Maynor Message-Id: <200310101229.h9ACTtMe001462@ra.msstate.edu> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Hey, Rita Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I like the poem. But did you notice that Rouvalis is spelled Roubalis? NOT good. Editors of something like this should make sure they proofread names very carefully. --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 10 08:09:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9AD9U21013721 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 08:09:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7490E1E601D4; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 08:09:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 424721E601D1 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 08:09:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0019A3C7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 9:02:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13533438 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 09:02:21 -0400 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9AD2Le28892 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 09:02:21 -0400 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13ED44E2 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 09:02:21 -0400 (EDT) From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Attachments? Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 09:02:21 -0400 Message-ID: <001b01c38f2e$bdc24940$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Adam Hartfield >Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 9:19 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Attachments? > > >Are any of you meebers using Microsoft Outlook suddenly getting HTML >attachments on all your Words-L mail as I am? > >--Adam >adamh1@comcast.net > No. alec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 10 08:12:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ADCU21014049 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 08:12:30 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C0DE91E601C8; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 08:12:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 924A51E600F7 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 08:12:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F9AF3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 9:05:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13533714 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 09:05:21 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9AD5Le29527 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 09:05:21 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-142.gwi.net [216.195.152.142]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9AD5IQW089026; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 09:05:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031010085834.00b170d0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 09:03:13 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: How To Explain In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:43 PM 10/9/2003 -0700, Ann Borkin wrote: >How to explain to my now boss that the idea of having employees write >their own evaluations as a warm-up or precedent to -his- evaluation, just >really sucks? And why he's not getting the enthusiastic >here's-all-I-did-this-year response he wants? One way to defeat any silly bureaucratic rule or procedure is to comply with it 110%. So, campaign to have everyone write reams of excruciatingly detailed evaluation, then strongly suggest that his evaluation should respond to the employees' evaluation, point-by-point. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 10 08:43:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ADhk21018045 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 08:43:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 659B31E601D6; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 08:43:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B5D1E601D5 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 08:43:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F9BE0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 9:36:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13535869 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 09:36:38 -0400 Received: from imo-r01.mx.aol.com (imo-r01.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.97]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ADace02236 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 09:36:38 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.65.1a9904b5 (4568) for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 09:36:07 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <65.1a9904b5.2cb80fc6@aol.com> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 09:36:06 EDT Subject: This morning To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A man came to our door at 5 this morning, and Daisy kept barking and barking at him. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 10 08:57:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ADvT21019926 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 08:57:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F26631E601D9; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 08:57:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C09E11E601D8 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 08:57:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009F9C31@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 9:50:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13536906 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 09:50:21 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ADoKe05526 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 09:50:20 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9ADoIBh002710 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 08:50:19 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000401c38f36$80d11d60$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <65.1a9904b5.2cb80fc6@aol.com> Subject: Re: This morning Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 08:57:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > A man came to our door at 5 this morning, and Daisy kept > barking and barking at him. > > Evelyn Duncan > brandykitt@aol.com > http://www.thehungersite.com I am just as curious as Daisy was. Why on earth was a man at your door at 5 a.m.? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 10 09:09:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9AE9d21021572 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 09:09:39 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A041C1E601D6; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 09:09:15 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6424F1E601D5 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 09:09:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F9CBE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 10:02:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13538187 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 10:02:30 -0400 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9AE2Ue07951 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 10:02:30 -0400 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 16:03:52 +0200 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id SBZZXH2H; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 16:03:45 +0200 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031010134817.0202bfe8@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 16:01:52 +0200 Subject: WHTUIG - with giffs In-Reply-To: <200310091207.h99C7P74018289@ra.msstate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU We went first to Athens as we have become used to. We were tired and needed a vacation, so the only thing we did except for walking about, drinking wine and resting was to visit the Acropolis and the Agora. Then we set out on our sea voyage to Iraklio, Crete. I have done this quite a few times in my younger days, going deck class and sleeping outside (which people were still doing), but now we had our own cabin with a forward looking window (or should I say porthole?), and forwards, or ahead, meant south which gave us a great view of an almost full moon. The car was waiting for us (6 AM), so we went first to Agios Nicholaos where we had breakfast and then to my old playing grounds: Ierapetra and then Myrtos. Myrtos had changed quite a lot but there are no huge hotels or constructions like that: http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/myrtos1.jpg http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/myrtos2.jpg The first time I was in Myrtos was in 1973, and the last time before now was in 1980. I met a few of the local people now who had been there then, even some who remembered me (I lived there for four months in 1977). Now that I have been there I don't feel any need for going there again, but I wouldn't mind doing so either. After our two days in Myrtos we drove east along the coast and up to Sitia (this was also known country from 25 years or so back, and there were some major new developments along the coast east from Ierapetra). Then off into terra incognita for me towards Kato Zakro. We knew that there weren't that many beds available and were a little worried that we would have to go somewhere else. We also didn't know for sure if Kato Zakro would be the haven we were looking for. But it was. All the single rooms (12) down at the beach were taken but the manager suggested thatwe could have a flat for some days until a room became free. We looked at the flat and asked what the price would be if we stayed there the whole 17 nights we planned to be in Kato Zakro and when he told us (after some conferencing - with his wife, I guess) 45 € (did the Euro-sign come through?) per night that was more than we had planned to spend but still something we could afford, especially with a bedroom, a living room and a kitchen (and a bathroom). From the beach our flat (door and kitchen windoe) is in the center of the photo: http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/inlook.jpg and the view from our door: http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/outlook.jpg Kato Zakro is at the end of a 5 mile gorge (canyon? although I believe it is volcanic/seismic in origin rather than made all the way by a river even if a river has helped). We got into a rythm of taking one day walking up the gorge, with a first rest at this lovely place under some chestnut trees: http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/gorgekz1.jpg Then up through the upper entrance to the gorge: http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/gorgekz2.jpg Then back over the hills surrounding the gorge and down an old dirt road with a wondeful view of kato Zakro: http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/katozakro1.jpg Other days we might stay at the local beach and take some short walks in the village (a summer village - people who tend the fields and fish here move further inland in the winter). There is a small church: http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/kzakrochurch1.jpg http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/kzakrochurch2.jpg Kato Zakro is in one of the driest areas on Crete, at the far eastern edge: http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/kzakrobeach.jpg We also discovered the beaches surrounding, and inside the ruins of old Itanos: http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/i-itanos.jpg (Ingjerd) http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/e-itanos.jpg (me) http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/palms-itanos.jpg (Old Itanos harbor + native palms) Or we made even longer excursions. Apart from the one in the mountains where we were to occupied to do any photographing, we also went to Knossos and cooled ourselves down in style: http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/knossos.jpg And cooking was enjoyable. The koukouvagia - owl(s-eye) is a Cretan version of bruschetta: http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/koukouvagia.jpg and even if we lacked large pots we managed to make food in a pan in the stove: http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/octopus.jpg We spent our final two days in Crete in the northwest, just outside Chania. Some friends of ours are building a house in the village Pano Stalo, a few kilometres up from the coast, and they have a beautiful view from their roof terrasse: http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/eoghutsikt.jpg And thn back to Athens where we did ne museum and two movies and in general relaxed - we have become very good at that. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 10 09:19:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9AEJp21022973 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 09:19:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7CBCA1E601D7; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 09:19:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 441251E601D6 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 09:19:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009F9D35@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 10:12:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13539242 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 10:12:42 -0400 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9AECfe10096 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 10:12:42 -0400 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 16:14:04 +0200 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id SBZZXHJ0; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 16:13:57 +0200 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031010161144.02061918@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 16:12:01 +0200 Subject: Re: Hey, Rita In-Reply-To: <200310101229.h9ACTtMe001462@ra.msstate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 07:29 10.10.2003 -0500 skrev Natalie Maynor: >I like the poem. But did you notice that Rouvalis is spelled >Roubalis? NOT good. Editors of something like this should make >sure they proofread names very carefully. > --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) It is probably a transliteration from Greek :-) Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 10 09:29:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9AETf21024339 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 09:29:41 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C65DD1E601AD; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 09:29:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96ACA1E60125 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 09:29:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009F9DA1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 10:22:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13540110 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 10:22:32 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9AEMWe11995 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 10:22:32 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003101014222601300qog66e> (Authid: adamh1); Fri, 10 Oct 2003 14:22:26 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Attachments? Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 10:22:26 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <001b01c38f2e$bdc24940$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Are any of you meebers using Microsoft Outlook suddenly getting HTML > >attachments on all your Words-L mail as I am? > > > >--Adam > >adamh1@comcast.net > > > > No. > > > alec Thanks for the reply. The problem disappeared last night as suddenly as it had started. Very odd, but that's Outlook. --Adam adamh1@comcast.net From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 10 10:31:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9AFVV21001336 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 10:31:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7566E1E601DB; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 10:31:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30ED71E601DA for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 10:31:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FA028@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 11:24:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13545958 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 11:24:14 -0400 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9AFOEa24424 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 11:24:14 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1a0.1b5bc76d (4402) for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 11:23:49 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1a0.1b5bc76d.2cb82904@aol.com> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 11:23:48 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] This morning To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/10/2003 8:50:25 AM Central Daylight Time, dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM writes: << I am just as curious as Daisy was. Why on earth was a man at your door at 5 a.m.? >> I wish I knew, too. I got her some Bonz at the store to thank her. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 10 10:42:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9AFgT21003366 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 10:42:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3B1C51E601E0; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 10:42:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E00251E601DF for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 10:42:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FA085@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 11:35:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13546832 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 11:35:20 -0400 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9AFZJa26337 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 11:35:19 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.182.217d846a (25711) for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 11:34:39 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <182.217d846a.2cb82b8e@aol.com> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 11:34:38 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] This morning To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/10/2003 10:24:42 AM Central Daylight Time, BrandyKitt@AOL.COM writes: I got her some Bonz at the store to thank her. And i gave her one to thank her for taking her heartworm medicine. But that's an advantage of having a dog who eats like a horse. With Sweetie, I'd have to smash the pill into powder and sneak it into her food. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 10 10:53:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9AFrd21005355 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 10:53:39 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2BD591E601E5; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 10:53:15 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4AC01E601E4 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 10:53:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009FA0DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 11:46:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13547721 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 11:46:29 -0400 Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com (web20502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9AFkTa28168 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 11:46:29 -0400 Received: from [68.17.134.5] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 08:46:28 PDT Message-ID: <20031010154628.74106.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 08:46:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: This morning To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <65.1a9904b5.2cb80fc6@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > A man came to our door at 5 this morning, and Daisy > kept > barking and barking at him. YaYsy for Daisy. What kind of man? What did he want? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 10 11:13:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9AGDZ21008597 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 11:13:37 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 48F2C1E601E7; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 11:13:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2A371E601E6 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 11:13:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FA1C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 12:06:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13550067 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 12:06:25 -0400 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9AG6Pa32196 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 12:06:25 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.158.25e57add (17228) for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 12:05:54 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <158.25e57add.2cb832e2@aol.com> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 12:05:54 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] This morning To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/10/2003 10:46:39 AM Central Daylight Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << YaYsy for Daisy. What kind of man? What did he want? >> I don't know who he was or what he wanted. And we didn't call the police because they didn't care the time we were robbed. I have all these phone numbers from my cell phone; I called the police to come and get them or, at least, send me a form to fill out. phht! Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 10 11:20:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9AGK121009663 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 11:20:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8F6BC1E601E8; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 11:19:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F6F51E601E7 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 11:19:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FA212@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 12:12:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13550564 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 12:12:51 -0400 Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com (web20502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9AGCoa00794 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 12:12:50 -0400 Received: from [68.17.134.5] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 09:12:46 PDT Message-ID: <20031010161246.81476.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 09:12:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: This morning To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <158.25e57add.2cb832e2@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I don't know who he was or what he wanted. And we > didn't call the police because they didn't care the > time > we were robbed. I have all these phone numbers from > my cell phone; I called the police to come and get > them > or, at least, send me a form to fill out. phht! > > Evelyn Duncan > brandykitt@aol.com > http://www.thehungersite.com Well, at any rate, you don't need the police, you have Daisy; and Sweetie could scratch her name on intruders. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 10 11:29:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9AGT121011024 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 11:29:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 35F071E601E9; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 11:28:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E624B1E601E7 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 11:28:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FA250@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 12:21:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13551171 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 12:21:52 -0400 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9AGLpa02067 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 12:21:51 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.50.233692f8 (17228) for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 12:20:18 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <50.233692f8.2cb83641@aol.com> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 12:20:17 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] This morning To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/10/2003 11:13:19 AM Central Daylight Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << Well, at any rate, you don't need the police, you have Daisy; and Sweetie could scratch her name on intruders. >> No one can steal stuff from us again. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 00:04:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9B54GTb031442 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 00:04:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 948CE1E603B5; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 22:05:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62D931E603B1 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 22:05:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FB338@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 22:58:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13591960 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 22:58:46 -0400 Received: from web20503.mail.yahoo.com (web20503.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.138]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9B2wjG17824 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 22:58:45 -0400 Received: from [68.17.134.5] by web20503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 19:58:45 PDT Message-ID: <20031011025845.11384.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 19:58:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F876F99.3144BC4B@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > I do enjoy many things about teaching, but I did not > enjoy replying to > e-mail from a student when I got home from the wet > parade tonight -- a > student who has an average of 64 in Descriptive > English Grammar and says > she "has to" make an A or B in the course. That 64 > is 50% of the final > grade. The fact that she can't figure out for > herself what her chances > of an A (zero) or B (miniscule beyond the point of > realism) are is > re why she has a 64 average in the course. I don't know what she expects you to do about it, but I guess you've heard every scenario by now. If, when you get up in the morning, we have invaded Venezuela, send me a note. I really think this is Iraq's bid to open hostilities on a second front. I don't suppose it has anything to do with Mathilda running to Venezuela with someone's money. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 00:22:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9B5M2Tb032446 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 00:22:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3AF081E6039C; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:18:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AF771E6039B for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:18:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FB24C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 22:11:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13589851 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 22:11:22 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9B2B2G14111 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 22:11:02 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.166.25]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031011021113.PAUK1781.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 22:11:13 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8766B1.6F9B81D7@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:10:57 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Spencer Was Wonderful References: <20031011013125.74531.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > I hope he remembered to wave from the elbow up only, > like royalty. I knew the two of you would cover > yourselves with glory, even with streaming faces. He was off and on in his

. At times he seemed appreciative of the adoring masses. At other times he seemed a bit bored by them -- the proletariat. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 08:41:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BDexHB025379 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:41:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 326701E60453; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 06:37:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03B171E60452 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 06:37:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009FBF11@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 7:30:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13616370 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:30:23 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9BBKNG20740 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:20:23 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9BBK9Sb010536 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:20:09 -0400 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:20:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Spencer Was Wonderful In-Reply-To: <3F8765F5.35C41F5@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3F8753C6.E8D7ED74@maynor.net> <3F8765F5.35C41F5@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 10 Oct 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> Good. (What is the OCHS? A doggie org?) > >Not just doggies, though that was all that was represented on the float >today. I think it was assumed that it would not be good PR for OCHS to >have a float with dogs and cats fighting or perhaps the thought was that >cats might not have been as amenable to the activity as dogs might be. >For more info on OCHS, see So - what is OCHS? (I KNOW you do not expect me to to find out.) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 08:41:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BDf8HB025449 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:41:08 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CCAA21E602E6; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 16:44:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 921F61E602E3 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 16:44:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FAD3B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 17:37:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13576926 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 17:37:26 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ALbQG20458 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 17:37:26 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9ALbNBh010118 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 16:37:24 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000801c38f77$bf11c980$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031010211713.19986.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Rita C. Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 16:44:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Peach Nehi float. Have you ever indulged in one? > > Not since I was nehi to a grasshopper. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 08:41:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BDf9HB025461 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:41:09 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C46B61E60393; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:55:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 919A11E6012F for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:55:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FB306@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 22:49:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13591269 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 22:49:01 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9B2n1G16926 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 22:49:01 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.166.25]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031011024915.PODW1828.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 22:49:15 -0400 Message-ID: <3F876F99.3144BC4B@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:48:57 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I do enjoy many things about teaching, but I did not enjoy replying to e-mail from a student when I got home from the wet parade tonight -- a student who has an average of 64 in Descriptive English Grammar and says she "has to" make an A or B in the course. That 64 is 50% of the final grade. The fact that she can't figure out for herself what her chances of an A (zero) or B (miniscule beyond the point of realism) are is re why she has a 64 average in the course. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 09:47:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BElgHB026463 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 09:47:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A93EC1E60186; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 09:19:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77DEE1E60182 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 09:19:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FC118@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 10:12:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13621009 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 10:12:53 -0400 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9BECqG31814 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 10:12:52 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9BECp1R015381 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:12:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F880FA7.1040708@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 09:11:51 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Rita C. References: <20031011012930.74092.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Rita Chapman wrote: > >>Lynne Weber wrote: >> >> >>>Peach Nehi float. Have you ever indulged in one? >>> >>> >> Nope. I dislike peach. And I think the >>Nehi brand pre-dates >>me. Why? >> > > Well, there is supposed to be a small grocery/service > station in a small town in MO to which all Boy Scouts > in the state trek for their annual consumption of > peach Nehi floats. The tradition is said to be three > generations old, now. There was a little filler-type > article in our local paper (which is a little > filler-type paper). I was curious as to how much of > the story was true, or well-known within the state. I would not be a good source of information about childhood traditions in Missouri. Sorry. Try Sly. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 10:04:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BF4OHB027020 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 10:04:25 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 735B51E60377; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:24:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 467BA1E60376 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:24:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FB183@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:17:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13587830 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:17:17 -0400 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9B1HGG09738 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:17:16 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9B1HEkB013979 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 18:17:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F8759E0.3080300@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:16:16 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: WHTUIG - with giffs References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031010134817.0202bfe8@localhost> <200310091207.h99C7P74018289@ra.msstate.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031010231245.00bc9a48@localhost> <3F8759EC.5EBA025B@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Really cool photos! Efharisto. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 10:27:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BFRjHB027762 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 10:27:45 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C0C4E1E6021A; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 10:27:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E4791E600F6 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 10:27:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FC1F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:20:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13623357 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:20:25 -0400 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9BFKPG04588 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:20:25 -0400 Received: from [68.17.134.5] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:20:24 PDT Message-ID: <20031011152024.70227.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:20:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Spencer Was Wonderful To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Thanks - I still do not see OCHS in the URL - my > loss, I guess. > > Bethany It is helpful to remember that William Faulkner named all Mississippi counties. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 10:29:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BFTdHB027799 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 10:29:39 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 97D471E600F6; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 10:29:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65A1C1E6004B for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 10:29:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FC21A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:22:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13623388 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:22:20 -0400 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9BFMKG04692 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:22:20 -0400 Received: from [68.17.134.5] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:22:19 PDT Message-ID: <20031011152219.70556.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:22:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Cattery To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F87F545.875DD7@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > I've not been involved in the specifics of the > planning of the new > shelter. I was just looking at the schematics of it > and am wondering > now what a "cattery" is. > > http://www.msstate.edu/org/humane/images/shelter/aerial_schematic.jpg > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Heavily loaded question. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 10:36:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BFaTHB027922 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 10:36:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 17DF61E600F6; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 10:35:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D96401E6004B for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 10:35:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0019C799@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:29:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13623669 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:29:10 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9BFT9G05181 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:29:09 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h9BFT7DU026666 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:29:07 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h9BFT7HX026664 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:29:07 +0200 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:29:07 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Rita C. Message-ID: <20031011152907.GA26645@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20031011012930.74092.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> <3F880FA7.1040708@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F880FA7.1040708@swbell.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = > = >Well, there is supposed to be a small grocery/service = >station in a small town in MO to which all Boy Scouts = >in the state trek for their annual consumption of = >peach Nehi floats. The tradition is said to be three = >generations old, now. There was a little filler-type = >article in our local paper (which is a little = >filler-type paper). I was curious as to how much of = >the story was true, or well-known within the state. = http://www.scottsiconiumstore.com/article.htm I'd say true. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 10:37:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BFbfHB027966 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 10:37:41 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3B7781E60480; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:30:24 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09C0E1E6047F for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:30:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009FBFAB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 8:23:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13617815 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:23:38 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9BCNcG23626 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:23:38 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.169.170]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031011122345.SYZA1826.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:23:45 -0400 Message-ID: <3F87F646.E0AEC24@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:23:34 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Spencer Was Wonderful References: <3F8753C6.E8D7ED74@maynor.net> <3F8765F5.35C41F5@maynor.net> <3F87F081.CDD1AAA1@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Thanks - I still do not see OCHS in the URL - my loss, I guess. I find this rather amazing -- unless, of course, you're saying that you don't see those letters themselves. But that doesn't make sense since obviously if the letters had been used, i.e., if it had had at the end of the path "ochs" instead of "humane," then seeing that would not answer your question. I do find it amazing that you aren't able to grasp the answer by one quick glance -- given the context, of course. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 11:11:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BGB1HB028642 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:11:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5F4B81E60209; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 10:45:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CC951E60010 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 10:45:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FC254@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:38:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13623938 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:38:58 -0400 Received: from web20503.mail.yahoo.com (web20503.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.138]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9BFcwG05773 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:38:58 -0400 Received: from [68.17.134.5] by web20503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:38:56 PDT Message-ID: <20031011153857.55244.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:38:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Rita C. To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F88232C.E612131D@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I've > decided I'm not even > going to try to go to the p.o. this morning. I > don't want to have to > deal with cajoling a guard to let me into a parking > lot. This is why you should live at the p.o. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 11:11:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BGB3HB028657 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:11:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 207BC1E6017C; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 10:41:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5B511E60010 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 10:41:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FC22F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:35:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13623859 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:35:13 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9BFZDG05577 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:35:13 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.171.181]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031011153524.TZJK1781.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:35:24 -0400 Message-ID: <3F88232C.E612131D@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 10:35:08 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Rita C. References: <20031011012930.74092.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> <3F880FA7.1040708@swbell.net> <20031011152907.GA26645@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > http://www.scottsiconiumstore.com/article.htm That's the size/shape of glasses I wish would come back. I guess I should head to Wmart and look at frames. I've decided I'm not even going to try to go to the p.o. this morning. I don't want to have to deal with cajoling a guard to let me into a parking lot. Football games are a pain in many ways. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 11:15:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BGFlHB028895 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:15:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0C7B41E6020A; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 12:20:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA8501E60208 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 12:20:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FA3E5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 13:14:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13554968 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 13:14:06 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9AHE5a10472 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 13:14:05 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.74.122]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HMJWWN00.9I1 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 10:07:35 -0700 Message-ID: <3F86EB5B.B2ECDE48@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 10:24:43 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Slate's Democratic Debate Drinking Game Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I wish I'd had this last night. Would have made it easier to take. What dorks. http://slate.msn.com/id/2089522/ JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 12:34:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BHYTHB030687 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 12:34:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 83F891E6039A; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:22:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54A601E60393 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:22:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009FB271@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 22:16:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13590040 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 22:16:01 -0400 Received: from web20501.mail.yahoo.com (web20501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.136]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9B2G0G14406 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 22:16:00 -0400 Received: from [68.17.134.5] by web20501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 19:16:00 PDT Message-ID: <20031011021600.88805.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 19:16:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Spencer Was Wonderful To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F8765F5.35C41F5@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > For more info on OCHS, see > > http://www.msstate.edu/org/humane/ > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I want Frances! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 12:34:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BHYaHB030753 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 12:34:36 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BE6D81E60468; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:17:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AE1D1E60465 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:17:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FBFA5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 8:10:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13617379 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:10:20 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9BC0KG22567 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:00:20 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9BC06Sb015204 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:00:06 -0400 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:00:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Spencer Was Wonderful In-Reply-To: <3F87F081.CDD1AAA1@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3F8753C6.E8D7ED74@maynor.net> <3F8765F5.35C41F5@maynor.net> <3F87F081.CDD1AAA1@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 11 Oct 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >No, I didn't expect you to chase the url. But I expected you to see the >answer in the url -- as in just the words in the
, not having >to go there. You might not figure out the O, since you probably don't >know names of Mississippi counties, and you might think the C was >something like campus instead of county. But you would surely figure >out the HS part and thus would have enough of an answer to render the OC >part unimportant: Thanks - I still do not see OCHS in the URL - my loss, I guess. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 12:35:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BHYcHB030786 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 12:34:39 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BFDB41E60464; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:12:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9108E1E60461 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:12:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0019C513@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 8:06:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13617502 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:06:12 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9BC6CG22843 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:06:12 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.169.170]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031011120627.RYIR1828.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:06:27 -0400 Message-ID: <3F87F230.31571A5C@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:06:08 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Spencer Was Wonderful References: <3F8753C6.E8D7ED74@maynor.net> <3F8765F5.35C41F5@maynor.net> <3F87F081.CDD1AAA1@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > http://www.msstate.edu/org/humane/ I notice that the webpages now have a little line added saying "Student Chapter." I'm wondering why. Maybe it's so that the site will be listed with student organizations, thus getting more visibility. Or maybe the webmaster is a student and wanted to identify with that group. Or maybe some authority at MSU suggested that webpages on that server should have something to do with MSU. I doubt that last idea since all kinds of local organizations have websites on campus servers -- organizations like the SCT (Starkville Community Theatre) that don't have "student chapters." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 13:42:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BIggHB032225 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 13:42:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C8A421E60021; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 13:42:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94D421E6009D for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 13:42:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FC536@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:35:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13630833 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:35:21 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9BIZLG19167 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:35:21 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.171.181]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031011183538.UYJW1822.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:35:38 -0400 Message-ID: <3F884D65.EEB14B76@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 13:35:17 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Rita C. References: <20031011153857.55244.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > This is why you should live at the p.o. Yes. Otoh, I think I'd rather live at Wmart, where my every need would be met. I had a pleasant time there today. Had several long conversations with friends and acquaintances, including a poet who teaches at a fundamentalist school out in the country and who was sitting on a bench in Wmart writing poetry. And I have new glasses -- or rather will have when they're ready sometime in the next week or ten days. Although I'm not just madly in love with the frames, they're ok, and I sure can't complain about cost. Would you believe $18? It's not that I was looking for cheap frames. I don't get new glasses often enough to worry about how much they cost, and I'd rather spend more on comfortable and decent-looking glasses frames than on most other kinds of things. But what happened was that the only even somewhat desirable frames were way too big for me. There were very few in my size. So the friendly optician suggested I look in the children's section. That's where I found the ones I wanted. I told him that I was worried about how cheap they were and asked him whether they were junk, and he said that they were of exactly the same quality as the much more expensive adult ones -- that they sold children's frames at low prices because most parents didn't want to spend much on frames -- that children would outgrow them quickly, etc. The whole deal ended up costing about half of what my old glasses cost -- and this was The Works -- trifocals, UV protection, glare protection. I am happy. The optician and I also discovered that we're the same age and have lots of mutual acquaintances. He was an opera singer in Chicago and Germany before becoming an optician, and he knows an old friend of mine well, Paula Page, who has been singing opera in Germany ever since college. Wmart now has an ophthalmologist working there a few days a week, teaching at the med school in Jackson the other days. He had been practicing ophthalmology here but closed his practice a year or so ago to go teach at the med school. His wife and children stayed here because they were having trouble selling their house and because the children didn't want to leave Starkville. So he apparently decided to compromise by arranging his teaching schedule in Jackson to be on consecutive days and then working in Wmart in Sville on the other days. All in all, the day has been good so far, even though I am growing irritable because my house is cluttered and dirty. That always puts me in a bad mood. I think I need to clean it up this afternoon. But sometime this weekend I've got to write an article about Richard Wheeler's bastard line for the Wheeler Family Association Newsletter. The article was solicited. And I've got to address the political party invitations. And I've got to get organized and make a list of what I'm going to serve at the baby shower. Etc. etc. etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 13:58:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BIw2HB032498 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 13:58:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B08701E60383; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:36:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 807621E6037F for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:36:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FB1D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:29:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13588329 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:29:32 -0400 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9B1TVG10604 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:29:31 -0400 Received: from [68.17.134.5] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 18:29:30 PDT Message-ID: <20031011012930.74092.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 18:29:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Rita C. To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F87463C.4030700@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Rita Chapman wrote: > Lynne Weber wrote: > > > Peach Nehi float. Have you ever indulged in one? > > > > Nope. I dislike peach. And I think the > Nehi brand pre-dates > me. Why? Well, there is supposed to be a small grocery/service station in a small town in MO to which all Boy Scouts in the state trek for their annual consumption of peach Nehi floats. The tradition is said to be three generations old, now. There was a little filler-type article in our local paper (which is a little filler-type paper). I was curious as to how much of the story was true, or well-known within the state. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 13:58:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BIwhHB032670 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 13:58:43 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 41FE71E60175; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 02:00:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F6981E6016F for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 02:00:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0019C0E9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 2:54:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13608149 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 02:54:12 -0400 Received: from mail48.fg.online.no (mail48-s.fg.online.no [148.122.161.48]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9B6sCG06543 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 02:54:12 -0400 Received: from espeno-latt.nb.no (ti211310a080-6690.bb.online.no [80.212.90.34]) by mail48.fg.online.no (8.9.3p2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA21351 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:54:06 +0200 (MEST) X-no-archive: yes X-homepage: www.nb.no Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031011085512.00b3a628@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:55:36 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "Espen S. Ore" Subject: Re: WHTUIG - with giffs In-Reply-To: <3F8759EC.5EBA025B@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031010134817.0202bfe8@localhost> <200310091207.h99C7P74018289@ra.msstate.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031010231245.00bc9a48@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id h9B6sCG06544 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 20:16 10.10.2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor skrev: >"Espen S. Ore" wrote: > > > I believe this should be the only 404 - here is the correct one: > > http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/iknossos.jpg > >I didn't get any 404s, but two of them weren't pictures -- they were >this: > >Du har spurt etter en side som ikke finnes på start.no. Det skyldes Which were the other one (apart from the Knossos one)? Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 13:59:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BIwkHB032698 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 13:58:46 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4396F1E602D3; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 16:19:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB151E60082 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 16:19:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FABF4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 17:12:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13574389 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 17:12:42 -0400 Received: from mail59.fg.online.no (mail59-s.fg.online.no [148.122.161.59]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ALCgG17418 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 17:12:42 -0400 Received: from espeno-latt.nb.no (ti211310a080-2260.bb.online.no [80.212.72.212]) by mail59.fg.online.no (8.9.3p2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA05942 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 23:12:35 +0200 (MEST) X-no-archive: yes X-homepage: www.nb.no Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031010231245.00bc9a48@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 23:14:06 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "Espen S. Ore" Subject: Re: WHTUIG - with giffs In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031010130706.00a67d00@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031010134817.0202bfe8@localhost> <200310091207.h99C7P74018289@ra.msstate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 13:07 10.10.2003 -0700, Betty Clark skrev: >Beautiful. A couple of them were 404's.. >betty > >Or we made even longer excursions. Apart from the one in the mountains >>where we were to occupied to do any photographing, we also went to Knossos >>and cooled ourselves down in style: >> >>http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/knossos.jpg I believe this should be the only 404 - here is the correct one: http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/iknossos.jpg Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 13:59:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BIwlHB032709 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 13:58:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 407541E60331; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 18:56:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 112A31E6032F for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 18:56:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009FB017@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 19:49:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13584055 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 19:49:27 -0400 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ANnRG01524 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 19:49:27 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9ANn67Q000405 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 16:49:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F87454B.7080804@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 18:48:27 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hey, Rita References: <200310101229.h9ACTtMe001462@ra.msstate.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > I like the poem. But did you notice that Rouvalis is spelled > Roubalis? NOT good. Editors of something like this should make > sure they proofread names very carefully. > --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) Well, they spelled it right in one poem, but not in the second. I'm not that worried about it. Like Espen said, maybe they did a straight transliteration ;). -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 14:31:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BJV2HB001011 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:31:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CFB6C1E6017E; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:11:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C2F1E60175 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:11:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FC5DB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 15:05:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13631983 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 15:05:14 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9BJ5DG21628 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 15:05:13 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.171.181]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031011190530.VKUE1822.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 15:05:30 -0400 Message-ID: <3F885465.257EF08E@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:05:09 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Elwood and Mary Ann References: <4.2.2.20031011115550.00b4ac50@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > > We're off to see them at the Santa Clara Quilt show this afternoon. Mary > Ann earned another blue ribbon. Boo will meet us, too. It's time for a > wordsler fix. Fun! > Tomorrow is Janet's party, too. It's a wordsler week end! Too bad you > aren't retired, Natalie. You could hop out and join us. Bring cheese! Yes. Maybe one of these days. Next semester I'll be teaching on TTh, so I can do long weekends easily. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 14:31:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BJVEHB001019 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:31:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E89EF1E6009F; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:03:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B55D91E60014 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:03:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FC5A5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:56:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13631762 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:56:31 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9BIuUG20878 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:56:30 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9BIuL2f010639 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:56:21 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9BIuJJC010618 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:56:20 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031011115550.00b4ac50@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:57:45 -0700 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Elwood and Mary Ann Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU We're off to see them at the Santa Clara Quilt show this afternoon. Mary Ann earned another blue ribbon. Boo will meet us, too. It's time for a wordsler fix. Tomorrow is Janet's party, too. It's a wordsler week end! Too bad you aren't retired, Natalie. You could hop out and join us. Bring cheese! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 14:31:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BJV8HB001013 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:31:08 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7E69C1E6009D; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:00:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE881E60014 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:00:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009FC59C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:54:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13631575 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:54:08 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9BIs8G20641 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:54:08 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9BIs62f008359 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:54:06 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9BIs5JC008328 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:54:06 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031011115511.00b563b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:55:31 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Subject: Re: Rita C. In-Reply-To: <3F884D65.EEB14B76@maynor.net> References: <20031011153857.55244.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Buy an RV and park it there. At 01:35 PM 10/11/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Lynne Weber wrote: > > > This is why you should live at the p.o. > >Yes. Otoh, I think I'd rather live at Wmart, where my every need would >be met. I had a pleasant time there today. Had several long >conversations with friends and acquaintances, including a poet who >teaches at a fundamentalist school out in the country and who was >sitting on a bench in Wmart writing poetry. And I have new glasses -- >or rather will have when they're ready sometime in the next week or ten >days. Although I'm not just madly in love with the frames, they're ok, >and I sure can't complain about cost. Would you believe $18? It's not >that I was looking for cheap frames. I don't get new glasses often >enough to worry about how much they cost, and I'd rather spend more on >comfortable and decent-looking glasses frames than on most other kinds >of things. But what happened was that the only even somewhat desirable >frames were way too big for me. There were very few in my size. So the >friendly optician suggested I look in the children's section. That's >where I found the ones I wanted. I told him that I was worried about >how cheap they were and asked him whether they were junk, and he said >that they were of exactly the same quality as the much more expensive >adult ones -- that they sold children's frames at low prices because >most parents didn't want to spend much on frames -- that children would >outgrow them quickly, etc. The whole deal ended up costing about half >of what my old glasses cost -- and this was The Works -- trifocals, UV >protection, glare protection. I am happy. The optician and I also >discovered that we're the same age and have lots of mutual >acquaintances. He was an opera singer in Chicago and Germany before >becoming an optician, and he knows an old friend of mine well, Paula >Page, who has been singing opera in Germany ever since college. > >Wmart now has an ophthalmologist working there a few days a week, >teaching at the med school in Jackson the other days. He had been >practicing ophthalmology here but closed his practice a year or so ago >to go teach at the med school. His wife and children stayed here >because they were having trouble selling their house and because the >children didn't want to leave Starkville. So he apparently decided to >compromise by arranging his teaching schedule in Jackson to be on >consecutive days and then working in Wmart in Sville on the other days. > >All in all, the day has been good so far, even though I am growing >irritable because my house is cluttered and dirty. That always puts me >in a bad mood. I think I need to clean it up this afternoon. But >sometime this weekend I've got to write an article about Richard >Wheeler's bastard line for the Wheeler Family Association Newsletter. >The article was solicited. And I've got to address the political party >invitations. And I've got to get organized and make a list of what I'm >going to serve at the baby shower. Etc. etc. etc. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 14:31:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BJVEHB001017 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:31:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 86D8B1E6017C; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:11:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57ABE1E60175 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:11:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FC5BA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 15:04:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13631965 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 15:04:23 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9BJ4NG21573 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 15:04:23 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.171.181]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031011190439.VKMT1822.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 15:04:39 -0400 Message-ID: <3F885433.9311436B@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:04:19 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Rita C. References: <20031011153857.55244.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20031011115511.00b563b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > > Buy an RV and park it there. That would be convenient. And I would have instant social life any time I wanted it without having to get in my car and drive across town. But could I have DSL in an RV? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 14:47:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BJlfHB001297 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:47:41 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C85AE1E60182; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:17:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 959CD1E6010A for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:17:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009FC5DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 15:11:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13632176 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 15:11:01 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9BJB0G22141 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 15:11:00 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9BJAxeO010579 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 12:10:59 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9BJAva2010548; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 12:10:58 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031011121150.00a29340@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 12:12:23 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Rita C. In-Reply-To: <3F885433.9311436B@maynor.net> References: <20031011153857.55244.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20031011115511.00b563b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:04 PM 10/11/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty wrote: > > > > Buy an RV and park it there. > >That would be convenient. And I would have instant social life any time >I wanted it without having to get in my car and drive across town. But >could I have DSL in an RV? Go wireless or use your cell phone to connect. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 15:54:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BKsMHB002759 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 15:54:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5CE9C1E6017C; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 15:35:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CC491E60175 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 15:35:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FC6B2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 16:29:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13633827 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 16:29:09 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9BKJ9G26265 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 16:19:09 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9BKItSb022785 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 16:18:55 -0400 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 16:19:09 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Rita C. In-Reply-To: <20031011153857.55244.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031011153857.55244.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 11 Oct 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >This is why you should live at the p.o. Yes. And spend your time unwrapping acronyms for people like me. Or write short stories. Or whatever. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 15:54:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BKsMHB002769 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 15:54:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 65AEA1E60177; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 15:34:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30CE61E60175 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 15:34:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0019CC05@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 16:27:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13633815 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 16:27:44 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9BKHhG26199 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 16:17:43 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9BKHTSb022560 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 16:17:29 -0400 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 16:17:43 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Spencer Was Wonderful In-Reply-To: <20031011152024.70227.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031011152024.70227.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 11 Oct 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >> Thanks - I still do not see OCHS in the URL - my >> loss, I guess. > >It is helpful to remember that William Faulkner named >all Mississippi counties. Ah, finally a helpful comment! But I still need to figure out how to get Yoknapatawpha /SP??? - it's been MUCH too long since my Faulkner seminar!/ out of OCHS. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 15:54:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BKsMHB002755 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 15:54:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7A4D81E600D8; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 15:24:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 463171E6001C for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 15:24:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FC694@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 16:17:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13633642 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 16:17:26 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9BK7PG25647 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 16:07:25 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9BK7BSb020998 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 16:07:11 -0400 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 16:07:25 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Spencer Was Wonderful In-Reply-To: <3F87F646.E0AEC24@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3F8753C6.E8D7ED74@maynor.net> <3F8765F5.35C41F5@maynor.net> <3F87F081.CDD1AAA1@maynor.net> <3F87F646.E0AEC24@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 11 Oct 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I find this rather amazing -- unless, of course, you're saying that you >don't see those letters themselves. But that doesn't make sense since >obviously if the letters had been used, i.e., if it had had at the end Thanks - I just don't find this interesting enough to spend time/energy guessing. Obviously, you think that I should know instinctivey what the letters OCHS mean when they are used in conjuntion with a parade featuring a dog. Perhaps humane plays into the org name - but wtf is OC? Off campus? Who knows? If you had wanted me to know, you probably would have told me. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 16:17:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BLHqHB003312 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 16:17:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 859A11E600A4; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 16:17:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52B9E1E600D8 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 16:17:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FC77E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:10:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13635864 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:10:30 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9BLAUG29529 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:10:30 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.171.181]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031011211045.XJOW1822.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:10:45 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8871C1.44F0E05D@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 16:10:25 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Spencer Was Wonderful References: <3F8753C6.E8D7ED74@maynor.net> <3F8765F5.35C41F5@maynor.net> <3F87F081.CDD1AAA1@maynor.net> <3F87F646.E0AEC24@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Thanks - I just don't find this interesting enough to spend time/energy > guessing. That is certainly understandable. I had no idea that simple word connections required such time and energy for you to get. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 16:20:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BLKDHB003346 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 16:20:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7C77C1E6010A; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 16:19:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B9F41E600DB for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 16:19:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009FC778@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:12:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13635977 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:12:51 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9BLCpG29725 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:12:51 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.171.181]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031011211306.XKWA1822.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:13:06 -0400 Message-ID: <3F88724F.AB3B7EB0@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 16:12:47 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Civil Twilight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I assume that Nautical Twilight means twilight at sea and Astronomical Twilight means twilight in the heavens. Is Civil Twilight twilight in civilization? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 16:48:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BLlxHB004212 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 16:48:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D99901E602EC; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 17:15:33 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6BE31E60038 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 17:15:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FAE07@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 18:08:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13579068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 18:08:48 -0400 Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com (web20502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9AM8mG23915 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 18:08:48 -0400 Received: from [68.17.134.5] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 15:08:47 PDT Message-ID: <20031010220847.74193.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 15:08:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Rita C. To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <000801c38f77$bf11c980$facadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > > Peach Nehi float. Have you ever indulged in one? > > > > > > Not since I was nehi > to a grasshopper. > > - D. M. When I repeated this to my husband, he looked at me with the pained expression that suggests he is being subjected to cruel and unusual punishment. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 16:48:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BLmVHB004382 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 16:48:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AB15B1E6045E; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:05:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7EA01E60184 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:05:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FBF6E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 7:59:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13617362 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:59:02 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9BBx1G22507 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:59:01 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.169.170]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031011115916.RXBW1828.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:59:16 -0400 Message-ID: <3F87F081.CDD1AAA1@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 06:58:57 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Spencer Was Wonderful References: <3F8753C6.E8D7ED74@maynor.net> <3F8765F5.35C41F5@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > So - what is OCHS? (I KNOW you do not expect me to to find > out.) No, I didn't expect you to chase the url. But I expected you to see the answer in the url -- as in just the words in the
, not having to go there. You might not figure out the O, since you probably don't know names of Mississippi counties, and you might think the C was something like campus instead of county. But you would surely figure out the HS part and thus would have enough of an answer to render the OC part unimportant: http://www.msstate.edu/org/humane/ -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 16:49:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BLmoHB004489 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 16:48:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A03891E602DD; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 16:21:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F3241E602DB for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 16:21:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0019B32A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 17:15:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13574483 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 17:15:11 -0400 Received: from web20512.mail.yahoo.com (web20512.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9ALFBG17660 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 17:15:11 -0400 Received: from [68.17.134.5] by web20512.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 14:15:10 PDT Message-ID: <20031010211510.33213.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 14:15:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: WHTUIG - with giffs To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031010231245.00bc9a48@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Espen S. Ore" wrote: > At 13:07 10.10.2003 -0700, Betty Clark skrev: > >Beautiful. A couple of them were 404's.. > >betty > > > >Or we made even longer excursions. Apart from the > one in the mountains > >>where we were to occupied to do any photographing, > we also went to Knossos > >>and cooled ourselves down in style: > >> > >>http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/knossos.jpg > > I believe this should be the only 404 - here is the > correct one: > http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/iknossos.jpg > > Espen They are ALL beautiful. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 16:51:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BLpdHB004748 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 16:51:39 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9F21F1E602B4; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 15:16:35 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B49A1E600E6 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 15:16:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0019B183@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 16:09:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13570110 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 16:09:49 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9AK9mG07960 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 16:09:48 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9AK9WW1022740 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 13:09:32 -0700 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9AK9VWq022723 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 13:09:32 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031010130706.00a67d00@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 13:07:26 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: WHTUIG - with giffs In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031010134817.0202bfe8@localhost> References: <200310091207.h99C7P74018289@ra.msstate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id h9AK9nG07967 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Beautiful. A couple of them were 404's.. betty At 04:01 PM 10/10/2003 +0200, you wrote: >We went first to Athens as we have become used to. We were tired and >needed a vacation, so the only thing we did except for walking about, >drinking wine and resting was to visit the Acropolis and the Agora. Then >we set out on our sea voyage to Iraklio, Crete. I have done this quite a >few times in my younger days, going deck class and sleeping outside (which >people were still doing), but now we had our own cabin with a forward >looking window (or should I say porthole?), and forwards, or ahead, meant >south which gave us a great view of an almost full moon. The car was >waiting for us (6 AM), so we went first to Agios Nicholaos where we had >breakfast and then to my old playing grounds: Ierapetra and then Myrtos. > >Myrtos had changed quite a lot but there are no huge hotels or >constructions like that: > >http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/myrtos1.jpg >http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/myrtos2.jpg > >The first time I was in Myrtos was in 1973, and the last time before now >was in 1980. I met a few of the local people now who had been there then, >even some who remembered me (I lived there for four months in 1977). Now >that I have been there I don't feel any need for going there again, but I >wouldn't mind doing so either. > >After our two days in Myrtos we drove east along the coast and up to Sitia >(this was also known country from 25 years or so back, and there were some >major new developments along the coast east from Ierapetra). Then off into >terra incognita for me towards Kato Zakro. We knew that there weren't that >many beds available and were a little worried that we would have to go >somewhere else. We also didn't know for sure if Kato Zakro would be the >haven we were looking for. But it was. All the single rooms (12) down at >the beach were taken but the manager suggested thatwe could have a flat >for some days until a room became free. We looked at the flat and asked >what the price would be if we stayed there the whole 17 nights we planned >to be in Kato Zakro and when he told us (after some conferencing - with >his wife, I guess) 45 € (did the Euro-sign come through?) per night that >was more than we had planned to spend but still something we could afford, >especially with a bedroom, a living! > room >and a kitchen (and a bathroom). From the beach our flat (door and kitchen >windoe) is in the center of the photo: > >http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/inlook.jpg > >and the view from our door: > >http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/outlook.jpg > >Kato Zakro is at the end of a 5 mile gorge (canyon? although I believe it >is volcanic/seismic in origin rather than made all the way by a river even >if a river has helped). We got into a rythm of taking one day walking up >the gorge, with a first rest at this lovely place under some chestnut trees: > >http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/gorgekz1.jpg > >Then up through the upper entrance to the gorge: > >http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/gorgekz2.jpg > >Then back over the hills surrounding the gorge and down an old dirt road >with a wondeful view of kato Zakro: > >http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/katozakro1.jpg > >Other days we might stay at the local beach and take some short walks in >the village (a summer village - people who tend the fields and fish here >move further inland in the winter). There is a small church: >http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/kzakrochurch1.jpg >http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/kzakrochurch2.jpg > >Kato Zakro is in one of the driest areas on Crete, at the far eastern edge: > >http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/kzakrobeach.jpg > >We also discovered the beaches surrounding, and inside the ruins of old >Itanos: > >http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/i-itanos.jpg (Ingjerd) >http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/e-itanos.jpg (me) >http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/palms-itanos.jpg (Old Itanos harbor + >native palms) > >Or we made even longer excursions. Apart from the one in the mountains >where we were to occupied to do any photographing, we also went to Knossos >and cooled ourselves down in style: > >http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/knossos.jpg > >And cooking was enjoyable. The koukouvagia - owl(s-eye) is a Cretan >version of bruschetta: > >http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/koukouvagia.jpg > >and even if we lacked large pots we managed to make food in a pan in the >stove: > >http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/octopus.jpg > >We spent our final two days in Crete in the northwest, just outside >Chania. Some friends of ours are building a house in the village Pano >Stalo, a few kilometres up from the coast, and they have a beautiful view >from their roof terrasse: > >http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/eoghutsikt.jpg > >And thn back to Athens where we did ne museum and two movies and in >general relaxed - we have become very good at that. > >Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 16:51:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BLpiHB004775 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 16:51:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9E6391E60336; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 19:00:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 707B21E6032F for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 19:00:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009FB027@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 19:53:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13584200 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 19:53:28 -0400 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ANrRG01845 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 19:53:28 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9ANr77Q002978 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 16:53:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F87463C.4030700@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 18:52:28 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Rita C. References: <20031010211713.19986.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Peach Nehi float. Have you ever indulged in one? > Nope. I dislike peach. And I think the Nehi brand pre-dates me. Why? -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 16:51:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BLptHB004810 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 16:51:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 992101E603A4; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:31:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 630621E60393 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:31:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FB26F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 22:24:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13590191 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 22:24:33 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9B2OWG14988 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 22:24:33 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.166.25]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031011022444.OISJ1759.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 22:24:44 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8769DD.2EA74F17@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:24:29 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Spencer Was Wonderful References: <20031011021600.88805.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > I want Frances! That can no doubt be arranged. I just looked at the website again and noticed that there aren't many dogs pictured there. I get the feeling that the webmaster might be slow. That always bugs me. I can't volunteer to do web stuff in these modern days in which we live since my web-weaving is too old-fashioned. But at times I think about volunteering because I find it much more offensive to have pages way out of date than to be not with-it re fancy web features. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 16:52:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BLqDHB004905 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 16:52:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9CB1E1E6047D; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:27:39 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ECCD1E60477 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:27:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FBFB9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 8:20:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13617790 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:20:54 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9BCKrG23521 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:20:53 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-214.gwi.net [216.195.150.214]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9BCKhQW095608; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:20:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031011081700.00b17378@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:19:46 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: In-Reply-To: <3F876F99.3144BC4B@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:48 PM 10/10/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >... The fact that she can't figure out for herself what her chances >of an A (zero) or B (miniscule beyond the point of realism) are is > re why she has a 64 average in the course. And I suppose that suggesting to her that if she needed an A/B, she should have worked harder, earlier, would simply brand you as one of the uncaring, unfeeling faculty. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 16:52:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BLqEHB004914 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 16:52:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 94CD21E60482; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:32:48 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66E7F1E60481 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:32:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FBFC7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 8:26:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13617902 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:26:03 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9BCQ2G23777 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:26:02 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.169.170]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031011122609.SZTQ1826.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:26:09 -0400 Message-ID: <3F87F6D6.CB704BCD@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:25:58 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031011081700.00b17378@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > >... The fact that she can't figure out for herself what her chances > >of an A (zero) or B (miniscule beyond the point of realism) are is > > re why she has a 64 average in the course. > > And I suppose that suggesting to her that if she needed an A/B, > she should have worked harder, earlier, would simply brand you as one of > the uncaring, unfeeling faculty. I say things like that to students at times. But in this particular case I'm not sure that she didn't work hard from the very beginning. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 16:52:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BLqGHB004940 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 16:52:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 67DB61E603B4; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 01:58:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38CEF1E60175 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 01:58:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FBB10@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 2:51:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13608132 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 02:51:45 -0400 Received: from mail48.fg.online.no (mail48-s.fg.online.no [148.122.161.48]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9B6pjG06451 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 02:51:45 -0400 Received: from espeno-latt.nb.no (ti211310a080-6690.bb.online.no [80.212.90.34]) by mail48.fg.online.no (8.9.3p2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA20806 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:51:38 +0200 (MEST) X-no-archive: yes X-homepage: www.nb.no Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031011085018.00b6e908@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:53:09 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "Espen S. Ore" Subject: Re: WHTUIG - with giffs In-Reply-To: <3F875712.126AD941@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031010134817.0202bfe8@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id h9B6pjG06452 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 20:04 10.10.2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor skrev: >Espen Ore wrote: > >when he told us (after some conferencing - with his wife, I guess) 45 € > (did the Euro-sign come through?) per night that was more than we had > planned to spend but still something we could afford, especially with a > bedroom, a living room > > and a kitchen (and a bathroom). From the beach our flat (door and > kitchen windoe) is in the center of the photo: > > > > http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/inlook.jpg > > > > and the view from our door: > > > > http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/outlook.jpg > >Let me make sure I understand what you're saying. You got that for 45 >Euros?? (Yes, your Euro sign came through fine, but I don't know how to >make one and thus had to spell it out.) Were you speaking Greek? Iow, >does one have to be fluent in Greek to get to stay there? I want to be >there right now. 45 € per night, yes. The official maximum price (listed on the inside of the door) was 70 €, and at first he wanted 50, so getting it down to 45 when we were staying relatively long wasn't that much haggling on my part. I started out in Greek but he spoke very well English, so we changed to English. I want to be there right now, as well. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 16:52:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BLqSHB004995 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 16:52:30 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9143C1E60492; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:03:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F6CB1E60499 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:03:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FC00F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 8:56:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13618755 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:56:15 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9BCuFG25294 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:56:15 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.169.170]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031011125626.SMUP1781.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:56:26 -0400 Message-ID: <3F87FDEB.A62487E8@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:56:11 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Arnold Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This is a somewhat interesting column on the Calif election: http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=16944 -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 16:52:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BLqWHB005031 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 16:52:33 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 64A9C1E6047C; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:26:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35EA01E60477 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:26:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FBFB4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 8:19:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13617748 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:19:21 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9BCJLG23457 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:19:21 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.169.170]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031011121928.SXSI1826.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:19:28 -0400 Message-ID: <3F87F545.875DD7@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:19:17 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Cattery Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I've not been involved in the specifics of the planning of the new shelter. I was just looking at the schematics of it and am wondering now what a "cattery" is. http://www.msstate.edu/org/humane/images/shelter/aerial_schematic.jpg -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 16:52:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BLqlHB005118 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 16:52:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 65DE91E60375; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:19:39 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37E9F1E6036C for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:19:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FB16D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:12:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13587618 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:12:54 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9B1CrG09310 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:12:53 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.166.25]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031011011306.NCMG1822.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:13:06 -0400 Message-ID: <3F875912.B722FC04@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:12:50 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: This morning References: <182.217d846a.2cb82b8e@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > And i gave her one to thank her for taking her heartworm > medicine. But that's an advantage of having a dog who > eats like a horse. With Sweetie, I'd have to smash the > pill into powder and sneak it into her food. Bernardykins ate his heartworm pills eagerly at first but then started turning up his nose at them. This was back in the daily-pill era. So I started smashing them up and putting them in his food. Spencer started off on the once-a-month pills, and I can't remember now whether he ate them readily. I switched him to the six-month shots when they came along, which was not all that long after he entered my life, iirc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 16:53:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BLr8HB005247 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 16:53:08 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 275BA1E602E0; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 16:23:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6E8E1E602DB for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 16:23:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0019B331@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 17:17:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13574534 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 17:17:14 -0400 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9ALHDG17820 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 17:17:13 -0400 Received: from [68.17.134.5] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 14:17:13 PDT Message-ID: <20031010211713.19986.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 14:17:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Rita C. To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peach Nehi float. Have you ever indulged in one? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 16:53:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BLrMHB005332 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 16:53:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2B9D21E60371; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:11:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0CE91E6036C for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:11:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FB14A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:04:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13587243 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:04:22 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9B14MG08421 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:04:22 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.166.25]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031011010435.NAJH1822.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:04:35 -0400 Message-ID: <3F875712.126AD941@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:04:18 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: WHTUIG - with giffs References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031010134817.0202bfe8@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen Ore wrote: >when he told us (after some conferencing - with his wife, I guess) 45 € (did the Euro-sign come through?) per night that was more than we had planned to spend but still something we could afford, especially with a bedroom, a living room > and a kitchen (and a bathroom). From the beach our flat (door and kitchen windoe) is in the center of the photo: > > http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/inlook.jpg > > and the view from our door: > > http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/outlook.jpg Let me make sure I understand what you're saying. You got that for 45 Euros?? (Yes, your Euro sign came through fine, but I don't know how to make one and thus had to spell it out.) Were you speaking Greek? Iow, does one have to be fluent in Greek to get to stay there? I want to be there right now. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 16:53:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BLrMHB005333 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 16:53:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 27EF31E6036A; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:02:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9B411E6000D for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:02:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0019B7EC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:55:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13586950 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:55:40 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9B0teG07696 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:55:40 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.166.25]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031011005553.MYOZ1822.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:55:53 -0400 Message-ID: <3F875508.5B8D5AC@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 19:55:36 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Glasses (att: Rashmi -- a shopping question) References: <3F85E727.C5DEFFD2@maynor.net> <001001c38ec4$8357a800$facadece@0018079268> <3F860EE8.4DE924C8@maynor.net> <20031010064439.GC23680@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3F868D6F.45AEDE87@maynor.net> <3F869D7B.8070709@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: > Evidence suggests that you placed the order some time in the first week > of September. I have a "Sent" message dated August 30th that talks > about your search. I believe that you placed an order within days of > that using the url that steph provided. Good detective work! I think Steph's reply with the url came pretty quickly, though, like maybe the same day. And I think I placed the order within minutes of chasing the url she posted. So it was probably August rather than September. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 16:53:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BLrhHB005409 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 16:53:43 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F041D1E60367; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 19:57:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82AB31E6000D for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 19:57:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FB11A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:50:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13586797 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:50:18 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9B0oIG07380 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:50:18 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.166.25]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031011005031.MXJU1822.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:50:31 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8753C6.E8D7ED74@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 19:50:14 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Spencer Was Wonderful Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The parade was not a pleasant experience. Sitting on a float making its way slowly through drizzling rain for an hour is not my idea of a good time. But Spencer was a beautiful representative of the OCHS. The other three dogs were ok also, but Spencer was especially wonderful. I wish he had smiled a bit more, though. I think he also was getting tired of the drizzling rain. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 18:12:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BNCJHB007336 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:12:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AE6651E60380; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:50:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CA471E6004E for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:50:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0019B8B9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:43:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13588936 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:43:32 -0400 Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com (web20502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9B1hVG11936 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:43:31 -0400 Received: from [68.17.134.5] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 18:43:31 PDT Message-ID: <20031011014331.20107.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 18:43:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Canadian Supremes - To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Paul Barfoot wrote: > There are several places where there is a "domestic > partner" or "civil union" situation. Those > partnerships are limited to certain rights > guaranteed by local or state law. The difference in > Ontario and BC is that the definition of marriage > itself was changed. Do our laws (state, I guess I mean) need to reflect the language used in the pertinent Canadian laws? If so, how close is this to happening, and where? I can see no reason why these unions should not reflect the same legal/religious status that heterosexual unions enjoy. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 18:12:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BNCRHB007358 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:12:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A3D1E1E60391; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:05:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E86D1E60076 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:05:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FB1E2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:31:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13588460 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:31:26 -0400 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9B1VQG10820 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:31:26 -0400 Received: from [68.17.134.5] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 18:31:25 PDT Message-ID: <20031011013125.74531.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 18:31:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Spencer Was Wonderful To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F8753C6.E8D7ED74@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > The parade was not a pleasant experience. Sitting > on a float making its > way slowly through drizzling rain for an hour is not > my idea of a good > time. But Spencer was a beautiful representative of > the OCHS. The > other three dogs were ok also, but Spencer was > especially wonderful. I > wish he had smiled a bit more, though. I think he > also was getting > tired of the drizzling rain. I hope he remembered to wave from the elbow up only, like royalty. I knew the two of you would cover yourselves with glory, even with streaming faces. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 18:12:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BNCRHB007359 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:12:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A776A1E6038E; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:05:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 744411E6038F for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:05:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009FB219@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:52:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13589224 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:52:23 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9B1qMG12614 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:52:22 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.166.25]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031011015235.NKXR1822.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:52:35 -0400 Message-ID: <3F876252.16AC3B37@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:52:18 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Iraq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU We were talking recently about the widely varying reports from people who have been in Iraq recently. Here's a sad one: ***************** Those who support the Bush administration say the press is exaggerating the problems in Iraq. “No,” my friend [career military person, recently returned] said. “They’re not. The situation is worse. Far worse.” So why not speak out? Won’t people listen to a career soldier? “Not this career soldier. I want to get out on my own terms, with my rank and pension intact. My family’s future is more important. I’m no fool.” ***************** from: http://www.commondreams.org/views03/1010-11.htm -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 18:12:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BNCRHB007361 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:12:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A5AE71E60076; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:05:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 714A31E6038E for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:05:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FB1C5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:32:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13588028 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:32:36 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9B1MaG10103 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:22:36 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9B1MMSb018019 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:22:23 -0400 Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:22:36 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Spencer Was Wonderful In-Reply-To: <3F8753C6.E8D7ED74@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3F8753C6.E8D7ED74@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 10 Oct 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >The parade was not a pleasant experience. Sitting on a float making its >way slowly through drizzling rain for an hour is not my idea of a good >time. But Spencer was a beautiful representative of the OCHS. The Good. (What is the OCHS? A doggie org?) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 18:12:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BNCRHB007362 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:12:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ACD781E603A0; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:25:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A2EF1E6039F for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:25:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0019B96D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 22:18:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13590084 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 22:18:42 -0400 Received: from web20503.mail.yahoo.com (web20503.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.138]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9B2IgG14565 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 22:18:42 -0400 Received: from [68.17.134.5] by web20503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 19:18:41 PDT Message-ID: <20031011021841.3717.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 19:18:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Spencer Was Wonderful To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F8766B1.6F9B81D7@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > He was off and on in his . At times he seemed > appreciative of the > adoring masses. At other times he seemed a bit > bored by them -- the > proletariat. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Perfectly understandable, with royalty. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 18:12:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BNCTHB007371 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:12:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AEFD01E603AA; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:52:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CD201E60393 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:52:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FB2D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 22:46:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13591105 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 22:46:12 -0400 Received: from web20506.mail.yahoo.com (web20506.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9B2kBG16708 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 22:46:11 -0400 Received: from [68.17.134.5] by web20506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 19:46:11 PDT Message-ID: <20031011024611.83246.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 19:46:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Spencer Was Wonderful To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F8769DD.2EA74F17@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I just looked at the website again and noticed that > there aren't many > dogs pictured there. I get the feeling that the > webmaster might be > slow. That always bugs me. I can't volunteer to do > web stuff in these > modern days in which we live since my web-weaving is > too old-fashioned. > But at times I think about volunteering because I > find it much more > offensive to have pages way out of date than to be > not with-it re fancy > web features. I agree. Adoption has to be the paramount concern. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 18:14:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BNE5HB007712 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:14:05 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E7FCD1E60267; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 13:13:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD5BF1E60266 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 13:13:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FA58D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 14:06:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13558664 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 14:06:31 -0400 Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9AI6Va18073 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 14:06:31 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.7e.3f714cdc (4004) for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 14:05:55 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <7e.3f714cdc.2cb84f03@aol.com> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 14:05:55 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] This morning To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/10/2003 11:22:00 AM Central Daylight Time, BrandyKitt@AOL.COM writes: No one can steal stuff from us again. I hope. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com http://www.thehungersite.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 18:14:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BNEDHB007753 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:14:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E4B051E60459; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:02:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5D691E60184 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:02:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0019C4FF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 7:55:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13617235 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:55:19 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9BBtIG22336 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:55:18 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.169.170]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031011115533.RWLG1828.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:55:33 -0400 Message-ID: <3F87EFA2.D22847DD@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 06:55:14 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: WHTUIG - with giffs References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031010134817.0202bfe8@localhost> <200310091207.h99C7P74018289@ra.msstate.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031010231245.00bc9a48@localhost> <5.2.1.1.0.20031011085512.00b3a628@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Espen S. Ore" wrote: > >Du har spurt etter en side som ikke finnes på start.no. Det skyldes > > Which were the other one (apart from the Knossos one)? The last one: http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/eoghutsikt.jpg -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 18:14:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BNETHB007861 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:14:30 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E15991E60376; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:31:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAD361E6004E for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:31:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009FB1B0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:24:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13588133 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:24:49 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9B1OnG10248 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:24:49 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.166.25]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031011012502.NEWL1822.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:25:02 -0400 Message-ID: <3F875BDC.31C67659@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:24:45 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Venezuela Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What's with these little snippets I keep reading in various places about an impending US attack on Venezuela? I find them pretty bogus sounding. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 18:14:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BNETHB007852 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:14:30 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E9FE91E60379; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:23:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC3401E60376 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:23:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FB1A0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:16:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13587806 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:16:32 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9B1GWG09658 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:16:32 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.166.25]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031011011645.NDGN1822.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:16:45 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8759EC.5EBA025B@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:16:28 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: WHTUIG - with giffs References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031010134817.0202bfe8@localhost> <200310091207.h99C7P74018289@ra.msstate.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031010231245.00bc9a48@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Espen S. Ore" wrote: > I believe this should be the only 404 - here is the correct one: > http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/iknossos.jpg I didn't get any 404s, but two of them weren't pictures -- they were this: Du har spurt etter en side som ikke finnes på start.no. Det skyldes enten at det er en feil i pekeren (eller bokmerket) du kom fra eller at siden er utdatert. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 18:14:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BNETHB007865 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:14:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E6EC21E6036B; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 19:59:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B42731E6036A for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 19:59:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0019B7E2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:52:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13586831 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:52:59 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9B0qxG07508 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:52:59 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.166.25]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031011005312.MXYN1822.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:53:12 -0400 Message-ID: <3F875467.232AD34E@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 19:52:55 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: RitaC References: <200310091207.h99C7P74018289@ra.msstate.edu> <3F860162.6090109@swbell.net> <3F86113D.1C0991CE@maynor.net> <3F86937F.9060306@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > Ah, so you're old friends and you didn't even know it! And I > thought I was bad with names and faces *wink*. Yes. I had seen her around Lee Hall for a while. But I had put her name and face together before the symposium. Not long before. But before. I saw your other poem in a quick break between a thousand chores this morning. I like it also. You didn't tell us such juicy details when you talked about your clerking experiences here. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 18:44:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9BNiCHB008650 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:44:12 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0019CE13@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 19:36:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13639156 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 19:36:26 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9BNQQG06050 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 19:26:26 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9BNQASb016917 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 19:26:12 -0400 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 19:26:24 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Spencer Was Wonderful In-Reply-To: <3F8871C1.44F0E05D@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3F8753C6.E8D7ED74@maynor.net> <3F8765F5.35C41F5@maynor.net> <3F87F081.CDD1AAA1@maynor.net> <3F87F646.E0AEC24@maynor.net> <3F8871C1.44F0E05D@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 11 Oct 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >That is certainly understandable. I had no idea that simple word >connections required such time and energy for you to get. LOL! How in the world am I supposed to know what your means??? Oh - wait! I just got it! Old City! You had a humane society parade honoring Knoxville's Old City - and me too for all I know! Thanks! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 19:36:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9C0aNHB009830 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 19:36:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 620701E60398; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:14:39 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32F1D1E60393 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:14:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009FB254@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 22:07:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13589755 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 22:07:53 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9B27rG13839 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 22:07:53 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.166.25]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031011020804.OZVH1781.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 22:08:04 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8765F5.35C41F5@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:07:49 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Spencer Was Wonderful References: <3F8753C6.E8D7ED74@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Good. (What is the OCHS? A doggie org?) Not just doggies, though that was all that was represented on the float today. I think it was assumed that it would not be good PR for OCHS to have a float with dogs and cats fighting or perhaps the thought was that cats might not have been as amenable to the activity as dogs might be. For more info on OCHS, see http://www.msstate.edu/org/humane/ -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 19:36:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9C0abHB009835 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 19:36:37 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6A1111E6037A; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:27:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A7451E600C3 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:27:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0019B849@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:21:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13587897 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:20:08 -0400 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9B1K8G09949 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:20:08 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9B1K6kB015628 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 18:20:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F875A8C.9080000@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:19:08 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: RitaC References: <200310091207.h99C7P74018289@ra.msstate.edu> <3F860162.6090109@swbell.net> <3F86113D.1C0991CE@maynor.net> <3F86937F.9060306@swbell.net> <3F875467.232AD34E@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > I saw your other poem in a quick break between a thousand chores this > morning. I like it also. You didn't tell us such juicy details when > you talked about your clerking experiences here. Thank you. No, I always save the best stuff for the poems. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 19:36:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9C0aaHB009834 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 19:36:37 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 65A5E1E60390; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:55:24 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 314261E6038F for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:55:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0019B8B7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:48:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13589108 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:48:38 -0400 Received: from vmmr7.verisignmail.com (vmmrnat.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.187]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9B1mcG12351 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:48:38 -0400 Received: from ms4.verisignmail.com (ms4.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.177] (may be forged)) by vmmr7.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id PCD76834; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:48:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by ms4.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id ASN41975; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:48:30 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 15:46:18 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Venezuela Reply-To: mem@noxiousweeds.net Message-ID: <3F86D44A.32236.178CF32@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3F875BDC.31C67659@maynor.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 10 Oct 2003 at 20:24, Natalie Maynor wrote: > What's with these little snippets I keep reading in various places about > an impending US attack on Venezuela? I find them pretty bogus sounding. Surely Venezuela must be much further down the list than Cuba, what with the new task force and all. Those guys will try everything to keep people from focusing on domestic problems, I suppose. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 19:40:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9C0e2HB009926 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 19:40:03 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0019CE0E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 19:38:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13639309 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 19:38:37 -0400 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9BNcaG06595 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 19:38:36 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9BNcZ1R007159 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 16:38:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F889440.40906@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:37:36 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Spencer Was Wonderful References: <3F8753C6.E8D7ED74@maynor.net> <3F8765F5.35C41F5@maynor.net> <3F87F081.CDD1AAA1@maynor.net> <3F87F646.E0AEC24@maynor.net> <3F8871C1.44F0E05D@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU You know, I figured it out in approximately a nanosecond. Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Sat, 11 Oct 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >>That is certainly understandable. I had no idea that simple word >>connections required such time and energy for you to get. >> > > LOL! How in the world am I supposed to know what your means??? > > Oh - wait! I just got it! Old City! You had a humane society parade > honoring Knoxville's Old City - and me too for all I know! > > Thanks! > Bethany > > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 20:17:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9C1HsHB011060 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 20:17:56 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FC7CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:45:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13636663 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:45:33 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9BLjXG31582 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:45:33 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.171.181]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031011214548.XMYG1828.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:45:48 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8879F8.C724FDD7@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 16:45:28 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Kinship Terms Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Is there a term for being a half-brother as well as a first-cousin? Here's the relationship I'm trying to describe -- the relationship between Alfred and Lindsey. Alfred was the illegitimate son of Richard. Lindsey was the legitimate son of Richard. Alfred's mother was the sister of Lindsey's mother. So through their mothers, they're first cousins, but through their father they're brothers. I've heard of double-first-cousins, but this is something more than that. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 20:17:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9C1HsHB011061 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 20:17:56 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FC7AF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:46:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13636669 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:46:43 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9BLkhG31618 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:46:43 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-214.gwi.net [216.195.150.214]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9BLkdQW039049; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:46:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031011174327.00b306d8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:46:36 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Civil Twilight In-Reply-To: <3F88724F.AB3B7EB0@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:12 PM 10/11/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I assume that Nautical Twilight means twilight at sea and Astronomical >Twilight means twilight in the heavens. Is Civil Twilight twilight in >civilization? From: Weather Underground Nautical Twilight This is defined to be the time period when the sun is between 6 and 12 degrees below the horizon at either sunrise or sunset. The horizon is not defined and the outline of objects might be visible without artificial light. Ordinary outdoor activities are not possible at this time without extra illumination. Astronomical Twilight This is defined to be the time period when the sun is between 12 and 18 degrees below the horizon at either sunrise or sunset. The sun does not contribute to the illumination of the sky before this time in the morning, or after this time in the evening. In the beginning of morning astronomical twilight and at the end of astronomical twilight in the evening, sky illumination is very faint, and might be undetectable. Civil Twilight This is defined to be the time period when the sun is no more than 6 degrees below the horizon at either sunrise or sunset. The horizon should be clearly defined and the brightest stars should be visible under good atmospheric conditions (i.e. no moonlight, or other lights). One still should be able to carry on ordinary outdoor activities. ================= cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 20:17:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9C1HsHB011062 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 20:17:56 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FC885@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 19:09:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13638838 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 19:09:11 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9BN9AG05099 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 19:09:10 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.171.181]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031011230912.CCCE1828.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 19:09:12 -0400 Message-ID: <3F888D92.11170844@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:09:06 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Civil Twilight References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031011174327.00b306d8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > From: Weather Underground Thank you. And now I realize how dumb my question was -- since all three of those twilights are mentioned for Starkville, which is not at sea or in the heavens. The question itself wasn't dumb -- it was about the terminology. But what led to it was dumb: seeing all three listed for Starkville and then assuming that nautical meant at sea and astronomical in the heavens. (I guess the latter would work since airplanes are up there. But there aren't many seas around here -- not even any rivers in the immediate vicinity.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 20:17:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9C1HsHB011063 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 20:17:56 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FC8B0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 19:45:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13639398 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 19:45:12 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9BNjCG06915 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 19:45:12 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-78.gwi.net [216.195.151.78]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9BNj9Yr034317; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 19:45:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031011194210.00b2fe50@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 19:45:07 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Civil Twilight In-Reply-To: <3F888D92.11170844@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031011174327.00b306d8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:09 PM 10/11/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >"clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > > > From: Weather Underground > >Thank you. And now I realize how dumb my question was -- since all >three of those twilights are mentioned for Starkville, which is not at >sea or in the heavens. The question itself wasn't dumb -- it was about >the terminology. Weather Underground's posting of all the various meteorological variables is somewhat recent. Their list of defined terms takes more than a page. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 20:17:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9C1HsHB011064 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 20:17:56 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FC8D7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 19:47:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13639455 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 19:47:40 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9BNleG07077 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 19:47:40 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-78.gwi.net [216.195.151.78]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9BNlbQW047162; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 19:47:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031011194651.00b2dee0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 19:47:37 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Civil Twilight In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031011194210.00b2fe50@pop.gwi.net> References: <3F888D92.11170844@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031011174327.00b306d8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:45 PM 10/11/2003 -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: >Weather Underground's posting of all the various meteorological variables >is somewhat recent. Their list of defined terms takes more than a page. That probably should read "astronomical variables." cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 20:27:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9C1RdHB011418 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 20:27:40 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0019CEB2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:19:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13640828 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:19:06 -0400 Received: from web20501.mail.yahoo.com (web20501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.136]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9C1J5G12036 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:19:05 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:19:05 PDT Message-ID: <20031012011905.41158.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:19:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Spencer Was Wonderful To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > On Sat, 11 Oct 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > > >> Thanks - I still do not see OCHS in the URL - my > >> loss, I guess. > > > >It is helpful to remember that William Faulkner > named > >all Mississippi counties. > > Ah, finally a helpful comment! But I still need to > figure out how to get > Yoknapatawpha /SP??? - it's been MUCH too long since > my Faulkner seminar!/ > out of OCHS. > > Bethany Proper name of count (O), then "County", then "Humane Society". Alors, OCHS. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 20:28:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9C1SQHB011455 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 20:28:26 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009FC94D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:20:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13640838 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:20:40 -0400 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9C1KeG12073 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:20:40 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:20:39 PDT Message-ID: <20031012012039.51801.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:20:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Civil Twilight To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F88724F.AB3B7EB0@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > I assume that Nautical Twilight means twilight at > sea and Astronomical > Twilight means twilight in the heavens. Is Civil > Twilight twilight in > civilization? > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Or in a city? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 20:31:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9C1V3HB011554 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 20:31:03 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FC95F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:23:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13640861 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:23:17 -0400 Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com (web20502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9C1NHG12188 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:23:17 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:23:16 PDT Message-ID: <20031012012316.93995.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:23:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Civil Twilight To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031011174327.00b306d8@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > At 04:12 PM 10/11/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >I assume that Nautical Twilight means twilight at > sea and Astronomical > >Twilight means twilight in the heavens. Is Civil > Twilight twilight in > >civilization? > > From: Weather Underground > > Nautical Twilight > This is defined to be the time period when the sun > is between 6 and 12 > degrees below the horizon at either sunrise or > sunset. The horizon is not > defined and the outline of objects might be visible > without artificial > light. Ordinary outdoor activities are not possible > at this time without > extra illumination. > > Astronomical Twilight > This is defined to be the time period when the sun > is between 12 and 18 > degrees below the horizon at either sunrise or > sunset. The sun does not > contribute to the illumination of the sky before > this time in the morning, > or after this time in the evening. In the beginning > of morning astronomical > twilight and at the end of astronomical twilight in > the evening, sky > illumination is very faint, and might be > undetectable. > > Civil Twilight > This is defined to be the time period when the sun > is no more than 6 > degrees below the horizon at either sunrise or > sunset. The horizon should > be clearly defined and the brightest stars should be > visible under good > atmospheric conditions (i.e. no moonlight, or other > lights). One still > should be able to carry on ordinary outdoor > activities. > > ================= > cwv This is illuminating - truly. I'm going try to remember it. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 20:37:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9C1bKHB011774 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 20:37:20 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009FC954@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:29:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13640930 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:29:34 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9C1TYG12626 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:29:34 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.171.181]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031012012942.YIMC1795.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:29:42 -0400 Message-ID: <3F88AE79.6E46703E@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 20:29:29 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Spencer Was Wonderful References: <3F8753C6.E8D7ED74@maynor.net> <3F8765F5.35C41F5@maynor.net> <3F87F081.CDD1AAA1@maynor.net> <3F87F646.E0AEC24@maynor.net> <3F8871C1.44F0E05D@maynor.net> <3F889440.40906@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > > You know, I figured it out in approximately a nanosecond. That's what I assumed of most Wordslers -- not necessarily knowing Oktibbeha, but one would not need to know that particular name to -- as in to know all that one needed to know unless one just had a compulsion to know the name of the county. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 20:40:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9C1edHB011875 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 20:40:39 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FC96B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:32:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13640988 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:32:53 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9C1WrG12809 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:32:53 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.171.181]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031012013302.YJEP1795.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:33:02 -0400 Message-ID: <3F88AF40.F75490C8@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 20:32:48 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Civil Twilight References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031011174327.00b306d8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031011194210.00b2fe50@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > Weather Underground's posting of all the various meteorological variables > is somewhat recent. Their list of defined terms takes more than a page. I had not noticed them until today, though I don't always read all the stuff on the main page -- I just look at the . I didn't look for the definitions, though. (And that's ok since IMFTAOTL.) Speaking of wunderground, it speaks Japanese on my office computer. I really don't remember setting it to do that, but I haven't bothered to change it. And if I keep scrolling down, I get it in English. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 20:42:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9C1g3HB011922 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 20:42:03 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009FC95E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:34:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13641017 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:34:17 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9C1YHG12893 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:34:17 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.171.181]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031012013426.YJKD1795.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:34:26 -0400 Message-ID: <3F88AF95.1408457C@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 20:34:13 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Civil Twilight References: <20031012012039.51801.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > twilight in > > civilization? > Or in a city? But then there's the problematic definition of "city." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 20:45:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9C1juHB012044 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 20:45:56 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0019CEC2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:38:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13641053 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:38:10 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9C1c9G13143 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:38:09 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.171.181]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031012013818.YKBH1795.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:38:18 -0400 Message-ID: <3F88B07D.BA87E672@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 20:38:05 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Civil Twilight References: <20031012012316.93995.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > This is illuminating - truly. I'm going try to > remember it. You have a more willing brain than mine. My brain tells me not to try to remember things like that since I know where I can find the info if I want it again -- on wunderground. I've been a wunderground fan since way back before the web -- back when you went there by -- EEEEEEK -- I hate this kind of brainrot!! -- when you went there by what route??? Was it gopher or what? Gosh I'm glad I'm no longer maintaining gopher sites. What a pain that was. But it's kind of frightening to think that I would not be able to do it now -- that I've totally forgotten the arcane system. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 20:57:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9C1vCHB012611 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 20:57:13 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FC972@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:39:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13641067 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:39:02 -0400 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9C1d2G13178 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:39:02 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9C1ce7Q029191 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:38:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F88B07A.90400@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 20:38:02 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Spencer Was Wonderful References: <3F8753C6.E8D7ED74@maynor.net> <3F8765F5.35C41F5@maynor.net> <3F87F081.CDD1AAA1@maynor.net> <3F87F646.E0AEC24@maynor.net> <3F8871C1.44F0E05D@maynor.net> <3F889440.40906@swbell.net> <3F88AE79.6E46703E@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Rita Chapman wrote: > >> You know, I figured it out in approximately a nanosecond. >> > > That's what I assumed of most Wordslers -- not necessarily knowing > Oktibbeha, but one would not need to know that particular name to it> -- as in to know all that one needed to know unless one just had a > compulsion to know the name of the county. It's not as if you haven't mentioned it plenty of times -- enough that it has even stuck in my loopy brain. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 21:03:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9C23IHB012867 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:03:18 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0019CEE1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:55:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13641435 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:55:31 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9C1tVG14629 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:55:31 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9C1tSBh009847 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 20:55:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000801c39064$ee25f460$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Siamese Twins Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:02:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h9C23IHB012867 Following with interest the latest separation case. Interesting that it's two little boys when if memory serves me right it is usually two littel girls. Such a tough call. So much at stake. Feel for the parents. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 21:05:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9C256HB012938 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:05:06 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0019CEE8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:57:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13641241 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:57:20 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9C1lKG13822 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:47:20 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9C1l4Sb001179 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:47:05 -0400 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:47:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Spencer Was Wonderful In-Reply-To: <20031012011905.41158.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031012011905.41158.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 11 Oct 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >> Ah, finally a helpful comment! But I still need to >> figure out how to get >> Yoknapatawpha /SP??? - it's been MUCH too long since >> my Faulkner seminar!/ >> out of OCHS. >> >> Bethany >Proper name of count (O), As in , I presume. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 21:06:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9C26wHB012997 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:06:58 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FC97D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:59:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13641507 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:59:12 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9C1xCG14784 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:59:12 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.171.181]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031012015920.CLQP1826.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:59:20 -0400 Message-ID: <3F88B56C.78EB619A@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 20:59:08 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Spencer Was Wonderful References: <3F8753C6.E8D7ED74@maynor.net> <3F8765F5.35C41F5@maynor.net> <3F87F081.CDD1AAA1@maynor.net> <3F87F646.E0AEC24@maynor.net> <3F8871C1.44F0E05D@maynor.net> <3F889440.40906@swbell.net> <3F88AE79.6E46703E@maynor.net> <3F88B07A.90400@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > It's not as if you haven't mentioned it plenty of times -- > enough that it has even stuck in my loopy brain. OCHS? That wouldn't surprise me to stick in a brain since it's a series of initials (Fromkin and Rodman would call it an acronym -- I wouldn't) that I have indeed mentioned many times. But Oktibbeha isn't something that hangs in the brain easily unless you grow up hearing it. I grew up hearing it since I heard all the names of the eighty-two counties. But I'm not sure that I knew how to spell it until I moved here. (Probably I had to know how to spell it in seventh grade, the year of Mississippi history. And I have a vague memory of Mississippi geography sometime in late elementary school, so probably I had to know all the county names and their spellings then. But I'm not sure that I retained that knowledge.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 21:08:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9C28fHB013045 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:08:42 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FC990@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:00:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13641657 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:00:55 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9C20tG15005 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:00:55 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.171.181]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031012020103.CMAJ1826.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:01:03 -0400 Message-ID: <3F88B5D3.5F9B8E85@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:00:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: I Miss Nancy Harwood! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Even if she didn't know the term for the relationship of two people who shared a father but had different mothers who were sisters, I bet she would have liked that question. I wish she would come back to us. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 21:10:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9C2AwHB013110 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:10:58 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FC99E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:03:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13641808 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:03:12 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9C23BG15391 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:03:11 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.171.181]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031012020319.CMPA1826.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:03:19 -0400 Message-ID: <3F88B65B.32BF9895@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:03:07 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I Miss Nancy Harwood! References: <3F88B5D3.5F9B8E85@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU PS: Does anybody know why Nancy suddenly left us without a goodbye? I've always wondered about that. Joe was off and on and had been absent for a pretty long time before Nancy's sudden departure. But Nancy had been such a regular that I found her vanishing quite strange. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 21:14:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9C2E4HB013202 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:14:04 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FC9C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:06:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13641918 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:06:18 -0400 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9C26IG15793 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:06:18 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9C26GkB009639 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 19:06:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F88B6DD.5090302@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:05:17 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I Miss Nancy Harwood! References: <3F88B5D3.5F9B8E85@maynor.net> <3F88B65B.32BF9895@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Nope. I still have a printed-out email or two from her that were good ideas for teaching -- one I will be implementing school-wide next year, I think (as if I didn't have enough on my plate). I miss her, too. Natalie Maynor wrote: > PS: Does anybody know why Nancy suddenly left us without a goodbye? > I've always wondered about that. Joe was off and on and had been absent > for a pretty long time before Nancy's sudden departure. But Nancy had > been such a regular that I found her vanishing quite strange. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 21:15:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9C2EvHB013238 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:14:57 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FC9AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:07:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13641942 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:07:11 -0400 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9C27AG15918 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:07:10 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9C279kB010123 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 19:07:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F88B712.4030509@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:06:10 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Spencer Was Wonderful References: <3F8753C6.E8D7ED74@maynor.net> <3F8765F5.35C41F5@maynor.net> <3F87F081.CDD1AAA1@maynor.net> <3F87F646.E0AEC24@maynor.net> <3F8871C1.44F0E05D@maynor.net> <3F889440.40906@swbell.net> <3F88AE79.6E46703E@maynor.net> <3F88B07A.90400@swbell.net> <3F88B56C.78EB619A@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Rita Chapman wrote: > > >> It's not as if you haven't mentioned it plenty of times -- >>enough that it has even stuck in my loopy brain. >> > > OCHS? That wouldn't surprise me to stick in a brain since it's a series > of initials (Fromkin and Rodman would call it an acronym -- I wouldn't) > that I have indeed mentioned many times. But Oktibbeha isn't something > that hangs in the brain easily unless you grow up hearing it. > Actually, it sort of does because it is so unusual. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 21:20:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9C2KtHB013407 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:20:56 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FC9D4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:13:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13642037 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:13:09 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9C2D9G16283 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:13:09 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.171.181]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031012021317.CPGG1826.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:13:17 -0400 Message-ID: <3F88B8B1.CFE89550@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:13:05 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Wunderground Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I like that wunderground has made it even easier to check weather histories. I think you used to have to go back and start again for a new date, but now the little box is right above the history you're looking at. I just looked at Oct. 30 weather history for here (even though I had meant to look for it for Jackson -- but that's close enough -- we're only slightly cooler than Jackson). And I saw that between '95 and '02, the weather for that date was widely varying, which did not surprise me. The high for Oct. 30 was around 80 most years but one year was 60 and one just under 90. I do find it fun to play with wunderground's history feature. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 21:38:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9C2coHB014070 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:38:51 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009FC9EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:31:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13642481 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:31:04 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9C2V4G17747 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:31:04 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.171.181]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031012023120.DJNK1789.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:31:20 -0400 Message-ID: <3F88BCE4.C0BD3CFD@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:31:00 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Syria and Israel Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I find this somehow funny in a sad sort or way: **** (CBS/AP) Syria said Saturday that relations with the United States were deteriorating because of an Israeli airstrike, and warned it has the right to defend itself if Israel attacks again. **** from: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/10/08/world/main577100.shtml So Syria is talking about perhaps defending itself against a clear-cut attack. That strikes me as a no-brainer. If your country is attacked, you try to defend it. So of course Syria has a to fight back. It's funny that the US doesn't seem to recognize that after having attacked a country that had not attacked us. I'm not sure I'm saying this very well. My point is about hypocrisy: Yes, attacking a country even if it hasn't attacked you is just fine if you have imagined some reason it might try to attack you someday, but no, striking back at a country that has indeed just attacked you isn't a good thing to do. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 21:38:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9C2coHC014070 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:38:51 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FC9DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:31:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13642485 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:31:06 -0400 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9C2V5G17752 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:31:05 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 19:31:05 PDT Message-ID: <20031012023105.50007.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 19:31:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Spencer Was Wonderful To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F88B712.4030509@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Rita Chapman wrote: > Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > Rita Chapman wrote: > > > > > >> It's not as if you haven't mentioned it > plenty of times -- > >>enough that it has even stuck in my loopy brain. > >> > > > > OCHS? That wouldn't surprise me to stick in a > brain since it's a series > > of initials (Fromkin and Rodman would call it an > acronym -- I wouldn't) > > that I have indeed mentioned many times. But > Oktibbeha isn't something > > that hangs in the brain easily unless you grow up > hearing it. > > > > Actually, it sort of does because it is so > unusual. > -- > Rita Rouvalis Chapman > rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org > http://www.etext.org/~rita I think - okay, tibia. > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 21:46:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9C2kAHB014346 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:46:10 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0019CF68@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:38:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13642650 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:38:15 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9C2cFG18211 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:38:15 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.171.181]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031012023831.DLML1789.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:38:31 -0400 Message-ID: <3F88BE92.4A1F0C7D@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:38:10 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Iraq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Oh, that's right -- these were the people who hated Saddam and welcomed the US : ******** Up to 10,000 Iraqi Shias have taken to the streets of a Baghdad suburb to denounce the US for "terrorism". ******** from: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3181392.stm -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 21:46:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9C2kiHB014360 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:46:45 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FC9ED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:38:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13642669 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:38:58 -0400 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9C2cwG18237 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:38:58 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 19:38:54 PDT Message-ID: <20031012023854.93897.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 19:38:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Syria and Israel To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F88BCE4.C0BD3CFD@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > So Syria is talking about perhaps defending itself > against a clear-cut > attack. That strikes me as a no-brainer. If your > country is attacked, > you try to defend it. So of course Syria has a > to fight back. > It's funny that the US doesn't seem to recognize > that after having > attacked a country that had not attacked us. I'm > not sure I'm saying > this very well. My point is about hypocrisy: Yes, > attacking a country > even if it hasn't attacked you is just fine if you > have imagined some > reason it might try to attack you someday, but no, > striking back at a > country that has indeed just attacked you isn't a > good thing to do. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I never heard anything else about Venezuela. Was there anything to that? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 11 21:50:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9C2o7HB014516 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:50:07 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FCA12@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:42:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13642721 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:42:21 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9C2gKG18414 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:42:21 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.171.181]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031012024237.DMST1789.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:42:37 -0400 Message-ID: <3F88BF88.53CC6341@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:42:16 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Syria and Israel References: <20031012023854.93897.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > I never heard anything else about Venezuela. Was > there anything to that? I haven't heard anything else either. I don't know. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 05:59:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CAxdHB029623 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 05:59:39 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FD1E7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 6:51:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13659331 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 06:51:49 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9CApnG27400 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 06:51:49 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.167.26]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031012105207.DNGG1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 06:52:07 -0400 Message-ID: <3F893241.D817B01A@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 05:51:45 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: What? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU How strange to turn on the computer in the morning and find no list mail. Where were all the usual late-night gabbers last night? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 07:30:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CCUcHB031535 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 07:30:38 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FD30B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 8:22:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13661893 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 08:22:43 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9CCMhG03744 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 08:22:43 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.167.26]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031012122252.FPPW1826.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 08:22:52 -0400 Message-ID: <3F89478F.D140D120@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 07:22:39 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: The Cat Fight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Five out of eight letters in today's Clarion-Ledger are about the abortion thing. (Most of them no doubt were written back when Blackmon first made her unfortunate comments. Letters in the CL are almost always way behind.) http://www.clarionledger.com/news/editorial/ -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 07:34:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CCY3HB031601 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 07:34:03 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009FD303@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 8:26:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13661683 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 08:26:13 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9CCGDG03338 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 08:16:13 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9CCFwSb019982 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 08:15:58 -0400 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 08:16:12 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: What? In-Reply-To: <3F893241.D817B01A@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3F893241.D817B01A@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 12 Oct 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >How strange to turn on the computer in the morning and find no list >mail. Where were all the usual late-night gabbers last night? Since you asked - I was downstairs on the first floor watching Georgia play excellent football. It was my first evening with some of my new neighbors, three widows. One is a retired Latin teacher - I don't know much about the other two yet. Bethany From owner-words-l*words-l**GTOAL*-COM@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 08:56:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CDuCHB000755 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 08:56:13 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FD41B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 9:48:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13664260 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 09:48:21 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9CDmLG11757 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 09:48:21 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.167.26]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031012134840.ERTQ1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 09:48:40 -0400 Message-ID: <3F895BA1.EC13B2FE@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 08:48:17 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: A WLM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A woman was talking about popovers on NPR a little while ago and mentioned Jordan Pond. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 08:58:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CDw5HB000785 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 08:58:05 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FD41C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 9:50:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13664272 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 09:50:14 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9CDoEG11824 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 09:50:14 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.167.26]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031012135032.ESEP1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 09:50:32 -0400 Message-ID: <3F895C12.EA3F5D6F@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 08:50:10 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: What? References: <3F893241.D817B01A@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > neighbors, three widows. One is a retired Latin teacher - I don't know Have I mentioned the motto of ARF (Association of Retired Faculty)? I think maybe I did mention it recently. It's VENIMUS, MINISTRAVIMUS, RECESSIMUS. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 09:04:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CE4wHB000944 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 09:04:58 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FD43D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 9:57:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13664546 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 09:57:07 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9CDv6G12269 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 09:57:07 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9CDv4Bh003617 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 08:57:05 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001b01c390c9$b885ab60$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3F893241.D817B01A@maynor.net> Subject: Re: What? Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 09:04:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" To: Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 5:51 AM Subject: What? > How strange to turn on the computer in the morning and find no list > mail. Where were all the usual late-night gabbers last night? > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I had dinner guests and we ate in the family room and then sipped on wine while watching Nebraska be pummeled by Missouri. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 09:09:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CE9iHB001014 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 09:09:45 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009FD43D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 10:01:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13664666 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:01:53 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9CE1rG12703 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:01:53 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-48.gwi.net [216.195.153.48]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9CE1pQU083443 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:01:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031012100133.00b80ef0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:01:56 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: A WLM In-Reply-To: <3F895BA1.EC13B2FE@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >A woman was talking about popovers on NPR a little while ago and >mentioned Jordan Pond. -- Natalie I just had two this past Wednesday. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 09:10:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CEARHB001055 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 09:10:28 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FD44E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 10:02:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13664670 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:02:36 -0400 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9CE2aG12746 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:02:36 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9CE2E7Q013440 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 07:02:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F895EBF.4070600@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 09:01:35 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: What? References: <3F893241.D817B01A@maynor.net> <001b01c390c9$b885ab60$facadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Natalie Maynor" > To: > Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 5:51 AM > Subject: What? > > > >>How strange to turn on the computer in the morning and find no list >>mail. Where were all the usual late-night gabbers last night? >> >>-- >> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) >> > > I had dinner guests and we ate in the family room and then sipped on > wine while watching > Nebraska be pummeled by Missouri. Mizzou. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 09:23:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CENtHB001316 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 09:23:56 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0019D8C1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 10:16:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13665097 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:16:04 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9CEG4G14192 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:16:04 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9CEG0Bh006141 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 09:16:03 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <003a01c390cc$5e759c40$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Skype Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 09:23:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h9CENtHB001316 If you take the NY Times, did you read the article this morning about Skype, the free download that allows you to make free phone calls all over the world? If you don't get the NYT and you want to read the article, let me know and I'll have it mailed to you. I went to Skype's web site and see I can download and start using it, but I want to know more about it, I guess. Pete, any reason why I shouldn't do this? Have you used it? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 09:44:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CEinHB001723 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 09:44:49 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009FD4A2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 10:36:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13665637 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:36:58 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9CEavG15973 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:36:57 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9CEatBh013729 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 09:36:56 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000401c390cf$498b45c0$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3F893241.D817B01A@maynor.net> <001b01c390c9$b885ab60$facadece@0018079268> <3F895EBF.4070600@swbell.net> Subject: Re: Re: What? Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 09:44:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > > > >>How strange to turn on the computer in the morning and find no list > >>mail. Where were all the usual late-night gabbers last night? > >> > >>-- > >> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > >> > > > > I had dinner guests and we ate in the family room and then sipped on > > wine while watching > > Nebraska be pummeled by Missouri. > > > Mizzou. > Rita Rouvalis Chapman Whatever. I'm not up on spelling distinctions down there. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 09:48:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CEmFHB001800 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 09:48:15 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009FD4AF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 10:40:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13665753 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:40:24 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9CEeOG16201 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:40:24 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9CEeM2f016422 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 07:40:22 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9CEeLJC016314; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 07:40:22 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031012074116.00a4c100@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 07:41:49 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: I Miss Nancy Harwood! In-Reply-To: <3F88B65B.32BF9895@maynor.net> References: <3F88B5D3.5F9B8E85@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:03 PM 10/11/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >PS: Does anybody know why Nancy suddenly left us without a goodbye? >I've always wondered about that. Joe was off and on and had been absent >for a pretty long time before Nancy's sudden departure. But Nancy had >been such a regular that I found her vanishing quite strange. Write to her. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 09:50:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CEoiHB001864 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 09:50:44 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009FD4BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 10:42:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13665867 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:42:52 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9CEgqG16380 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:42:52 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9CEgoW1012061 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 07:42:50 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9CEgnWq012046; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 07:42:50 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031012074347.00a4d100@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 07:44:17 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: A WLM In-Reply-To: <3F895BA1.EC13B2FE@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:48 AM 10/12/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >A woman was talking about popovers on NPR a little while ago and >mentioned Jordan Pond. I used my cup with the incorrect spelling on it yesterday. I do like the cup. Did you purchase one? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 09:51:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CEppHB001882 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 09:51:52 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FD4D2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 10:44:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13665937 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:44:00 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9CEi0G16492 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:44:00 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9CEhweO013780 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 07:43:58 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9CEhva2013773; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 07:43:57 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031012074448.00b7f880@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 07:45:25 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: What? In-Reply-To: <001b01c390c9$b885ab60$facadece@0018079268> References: <3F893241.D817B01A@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:04 AM 10/12/2003 -0500, Doris Markland wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Natalie Maynor" >To: >Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 5:51 AM >Subject: What? > > > > How strange to turn on the computer in the morning and find no list > > mail. Where were all the usual late-night gabbers last night? > > > > -- > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > >I had dinner guests and we ate in the family room and then sipped on >wine while watching >Nebraska be pummeled by Missouri. We were having dinner with Mary Ann, Elwood, and Ken. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 09:58:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CEwrHB002348 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 09:58:54 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FD4C7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 10:51:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13666096 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:51:02 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9CEp2G16949 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:51:02 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.167.26]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031012145120.KICQ1822.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:51:20 -0400 Message-ID: <3F896A52.8E498574@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 09:50:58 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Skype References: <003a01c390cc$5e759c40$facadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > If you don't get the NYT and you want to read the article, let me know and I'll have it mailed to you. Here it is: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/12/business/yourmoney/12kaza.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 09:59:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CExhHB002377 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 09:59:43 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FD4CB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 10:51:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13666122 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:51:51 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9CEppG16973 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:51:51 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.167.26]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031012145210.KILF1822.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:52:10 -0400 Message-ID: <3F896A84.B424229B@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 09:51:48 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I Miss Nancy Harwood! References: <3F88B5D3.5F9B8E85@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031012074116.00a4c100@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > >been such a regular that I found her vanishing quite strange. > > Write to her. I have. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 10:02:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CF23HB002438 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:02:03 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FD4ED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 10:54:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13666164 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:54:11 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9CEsBG17120 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:54:11 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.167.26]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031012145429.KJHK1822.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:54:29 -0400 Message-ID: <3F896B10.7B07E22D@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 09:54:08 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A WLM References: <4.2.2.20031012074347.00a4d100@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > I used my cup with the incorrect spelling on it yesterday. I do like the > cup. Did you purchase one? I did indeed -- in your presence. We discussed its interesting shape. I had almost forgotten about the spelling since that side of mine stays toward the wall. I have it sitting on a small rack on the toilet tank. The green on the cup looks perfect with my green striped wallpaper. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 10:02:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CF2kHB002451 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:02:46 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FD4CF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 10:54:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13666171 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:54:55 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9CEssG17132 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:54:54 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.167.26]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031012145513.KJPA1822.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:55:13 -0400 Message-ID: <3F896B3B.8A6A8836@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 09:54:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: What? References: <3F893241.D817B01A@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031012074448.00b7f880@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > We were having dinner with Mary Ann, Elwood, and Ken. So what all did y'all gossip about? And how were the quilts? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 10:19:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CFJUHB002779 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:19:31 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009FD529@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 11:11:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13666786 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:11:39 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9CFBcG18654 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:11:38 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9CFBMeO030858 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 08:11:22 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9CFBLa2030824; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 08:11:21 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031012080450.00b70a60@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 08:12:49 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Elwood, Mary Ann, Boo, Clarks In-Reply-To: <3F896B3B.8A6A8836@maynor.net> References: <3F893241.D817B01A@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031012074448.00b7f880@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:54 AM 10/12/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty wrote: > > > We were having dinner with Mary Ann, Elwood, and Ken. > >So what all did y'all gossip about? And how were the quilts? Larry and I missed the quilt show. We got badly hung up in traffic, but I had already seen a photo of Mary Ann's colorful coat. Ken probably has photos, too, because I saw a camera around his neck. We talked about MissionFest, Wordstock West, firework displays, upcoming quilt shows in Paducah and Houston, jobs, the internet, house buying, carnivorous beavers, Karen, Natalie, Namibia. ::sigh:: You had to be there. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 10:35:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CFZ2HB003206 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:35:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0C5701E600E9; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:34:20 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C82211E600E8 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:34:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0019D9B1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 11:27:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13667385 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:27:17 -0400 Received: from web20503.mail.yahoo.com (web20503.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.138]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9CFRHG19914 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:27:17 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 08:27:15 PDT Message-ID: <20031012152716.20019.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 08:27:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: The Cat Fight To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F89478F.D140D120@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Five out of eight letters in today's Clarion-Ledger > are about the > abortion thing. (Most of them no doubt were written > back when Blackmon > first made her unfortunate comments. Letters in the > CL are almost > always way behind.) > > http://www.clarionledger.com/news/editorial/ > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Even if the letters are stale, they may be new to readers, and that's got to hurt her cause. It's a pity she made such a misstep; it could have been an entertaining and valuable race, and may still be. I am relieved that the White Cat was not involved in a feline free-for-all. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 10:38:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CFcSHB003280 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:38:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BF1491E600E9; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:37:45 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D9B31E600E8 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:37:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0019D9CA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 11:30:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13667499 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:30:52 -0400 Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com (web20502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9CFU6G20281 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:30:06 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 08:30:05 PDT Message-ID: <20031012153005.31947.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 08:30:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: What? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F895EBF.4070600@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I had dinner guests and we ate in the family room > and then sipped on > > wine while watching > > Nebraska be pummeled by Missouri. > > > Mizzou. > Just hop a plane. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 10:41:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CFfCHB003310 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:41:12 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2A3731E600E9; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:40:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED6491E600E8 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:40:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0019D9DA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 11:33:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13667643 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:33:43 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9CFXhG20494 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:33:43 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.167.26]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031012153356.ERJI1781.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:33:56 -0400 Message-ID: <3F897453.75043D0E@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:33:39 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Elwood, Mary Ann, Boo, Clarks References: <3F893241.D817B01A@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031012074448.00b7f880@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031012080450.00b70a60@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > We talked about MissionFest, Wordstock West, firework displays, upcoming > quilt shows in Paducah and Houston, jobs, the internet, house buying, > carnivorous beavers, Karen, Natalie, Namibia. ::sigh:: You had to be there. LAME, LAME. COPOUT. Elwood is much too to reveal the nitty-gritty dirt and details. Maybe Boo will come through. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 10:42:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CFgYHB003327 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:42:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B38BB1E600E9; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:41:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 851351E600E8 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:41:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FD583@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 11:35:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13667653 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:35:05 -0400 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9CFZ4G20562 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:35:04 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 08:35:04 PDT Message-ID: <20031012153504.40789.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 08:35:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Elwood, Mary Ann, Boo, Clarks To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031012080450.00b70a60@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > We talked about MissionFest, Wordstock West, > firework displays, upcoming > quilt shows in Paducah and Houston, jobs, the > internet, house buying, > carnivorous beavers, Karen, Natalie, Namibia. > ::sigh:: You had to be there. > > Betty Who has carnivorous beavers? Are they man-eaters? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 10:43:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CFhwHB003350 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:43:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1DC7C1E600E9; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:43:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1E8E1E600E8 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:43:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FD586@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 11:36:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13667681 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:36:29 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9CFaTG20638 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:36:29 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.167.26]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031012153642.ERXX1781.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:36:42 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8974F9.6261C5E3@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:36:25 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Cat Fight References: <20031012152716.20019.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Even if the letters are stale, they may be new to > readers, and that's got to hurt her cause. It's a And they are bringing up again what might perhaps have simmered down and been less thought about by Nov. 4. > pity she made such a misstep; it could have been an > entertaining and valuable race, and may still be. Yes. You're right, of course, that it still might be, but it has clearly be . > I am relieved that the White Cat was not involved in a > feline free-for-all. The white cat is alive and well and still slinking around riling Spencer. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 10:57:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CFvRHB003559 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:57:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B66E11E600EA; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:56:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8418B1E600E8 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:56:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FD5BF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 11:49:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13668180 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:49:58 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9CFnvG21735 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:49:57 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id F37EF2B8ED; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 08:49:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8FE32B8EB for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 08:49:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 08:49:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: How To Explain In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031010085834.00b170d0@pop.gwi.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 10 Oct 2003, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > >How to explain to my now boss that the idea of having employees write > >their own evaluations as a warm-up or precedent to -his- evaluation, just > >really sucks? And why he's not getting the enthusiastic > >here's-all-I-did-this-year response he wants? > One way to defeat any silly bureaucratic rule or procedure is to comply > with it 110%. So, campaign to have everyone write reams of excruciatingly > detailed evaluation, then strongly suggest that his evaluation should > respond to the employees' evaluation, point-by-point. Yes, this would be an excellent move if I hadn't already placed myself in the role of mentor and confidante. So I tried to explain to him just what's wrong about this tactic. I have a hard time articulating it to myself, just what's so disgusting about it, actually. To him I was only able to say that it feels rather manipulative and like something dreamed up by HR. What exactly is so bad about it? Maybe it's that being evaluated is just plain unpleasant and expressive of an unequal power situation in the first place; then to be asked to perform it upon yourself is like being told to dig your own grave. Plus, it's uncomfortable to be asked to blow your own horn? I don't know, the more I try to express it to myself the more neurotic it feels to have a problem with it. I also said it feels like game-playing: some of us will go ahead and do what's required plus some of what's extra credit, but others are too proud to do beyond what's minimally required. I was doing this in an e-mail exchange. I can't remember if I left in the reference to Office Space, or not. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 11:09:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CG9VHB003754 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:09:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 28A061E600E8; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:08:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFAB21E6001B for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:08:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FD5DF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 12:02:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13668505 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:02:02 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law9-oe36.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.93]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9CG22G22823 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:02:02 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 09:01:56 -0700 Received: from 199.174.0.184 by law9-oe36.law9.hotmail.com with DAV; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 16:01:56 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [199.174.0.184] X-Originating-Email: [amyb_short@hotmail.com] From: "Amy Burns Short" To: Subject: Paducah and Quilts! Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:01:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Oct 2003 16:01:56.0867 (UTC) FILETIME=[296B3D30:01C390DA] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.quiltmuseum.org/ http://www.aqsquilt.com/ Aha! Mary Ann is certainly in the premiere quilt league if she's thinking of entering the AQS show and coming to Paducah ... AS, who lives a mere 50 miles away -- for the time being, that is -- and who is happy to provide local info to potential visitors .... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 11:23:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CGNgHB004072 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:23:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8EE921E600AF; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:22:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FB831E6001B for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:22:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FD624@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 12:16:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13668844 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:16:13 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9CGGCG23926 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:16:12 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.167.26]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031012161630.ITXW1789.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:16:30 -0400 Message-ID: <3F897E49.A772EE89@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:16:09 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: JP Mug Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.maynor.net/Temp/jp.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 11:26:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CGQxHB004118 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:26:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8DF551E600AF; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:26:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AA821E6001B for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:26:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FD63A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 12:19:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13669019 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:19:30 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9CGJTG24165 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:19:29 -0400 Received: from nat-147-1.oreilly.com ([209.204.147.1] helo=sprite.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with asmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A8iwP-0000i0-FJ for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:19:33 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20031012090058.02b45270@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 09:17:36 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Skype In-Reply-To: <003a01c390cc$5e759c40$facadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris writes, >I went to Skype's web site and see I can download and start using it, but >I want to know more about it, I guess. Pete, any reason why I shouldn't >do this? I don't think so. Note that you need a microphone+speakers or a PC headset connected to your computer to use it, not a regular phone. And you can currently only talk to other Skype users, not people with regular phones. (Skype doesn't even interoperate with any other VOIP clients, because it uses its own protocol instead of the standard, but since there aren't that many VOIP clients deployed, this probably doesn't matter to you.) There are VOIP services that work with regular phones -- our home phone line is now run through Vonage over the Internet connection ad we don't have a phone line from the phone company anymore. It uses a small hardware box that we plug our regular phones into, and on the other end, it connects to the regular phone network and rings regular phones. Vonage is not free, though, just inexpensive compared to phone service. >Have you used it? No, but I've talked to tech- and telecom-savvy people who have, and who really like it. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 12:00:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CH0vHB005038 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:00:57 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0116C1E6005E; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:00:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C369F1E6004E for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:00:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FD69C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 12:53:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13670209 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:53:27 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9CGrRG27072 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:53:27 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9CGrOBh000326 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:53:25 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <002601c390e2$72bcf2a0$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.1.0.14.0.20031012090058.02b45270@mail.istori.com> Subject: Re: Re: Skype Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:01:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Kaminski" To: Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 11:17 AM Subject: Re: Skype > Doris writes, > > >I went to Skype's web site and see I can download and start using it, but > >I want to know more about it, I guess. Pete, any reason why I shouldn't > >do this? > > I don't think so. Note that you need a microphone+speakers or a PC headset > connected to your computer to use it, not a regular phone. And you can > currently only talk to other Skype users, not people with regular > phones. (Skype doesn't even interoperate with any other VOIP clients, > because it uses its own protocol instead of the standard, but since there > aren't that many VOIP clients deployed, this probably doesn't matter to you.) > > There are VOIP services that work with regular phones -- our home phone > line is now run through Vonage over the Internet connection ad we don't > have a phone line from the phone company anymore. It uses a small hardware > box that we plug our regular phones into, and on the other end, it connects > to the regular phone network and rings regular phones. > > Vonage is not free, though, just inexpensive compared to phone service. > > >Have you used it? > > No, but I've talked to tech- and telecom-savvy people who have, and who > really like it. > > Pete Thanks. I figured you were already using this or a similar technology. My computer meets all the requirements so I think I'll set myself up, at least so I can talk to my kids. My daughter and I have talked through IM, but the quality wasn't the best. I think I'm glad I no longer own shares in any phone company. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 12:07:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CH7IHB005157 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:07:18 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 782501E60090; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:06:35 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 497831E6007A for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:06:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009FD6B8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 12:59:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13670336 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:59:48 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9CGxmG27570 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:59:48 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9CGxl2f030804 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 09:59:47 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9CGxkJC030797; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 09:59:46 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031012100010.00a427b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:01:15 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Paducah and Quilts! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:01 AM 10/12/2003 -0500, Amy Burns Short wrote: >http://www.quiltmuseum.org/ > >http://www.aqsquilt.com/ > >Aha! Mary Ann is certainly in the premiere quilt league if she's thinking of >entering the AQS show and coming to Paducah ... She definitely is! >AS, who lives a mere 50 miles away -- for the time being, that is -- and who >is happy to provide local info to potential visitors .... I'm sure they will appreciate this, too. The drive will probably be easier for them since they don't have to transport Fabio. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 12:09:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CH9THB005186 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:09:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6FCDB1E6007A; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:08:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3795F1E6005E for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:08:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009FD6BE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 13:01:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13670405 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:01:59 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9CH1xG27838 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:01:59 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9CH1w2f032399 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:01:58 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9CH1uJC032378; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:01:57 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031012100239.00a43ac0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:03:25 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Elwood, Mary Ann, Boo, Clarks In-Reply-To: <20031012153504.40789.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> References: <4.2.2.20031012080450.00b70a60@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:35 AM 10/12/2003 -0700, Lynne Weber wrote: > > We talked about MissionFest, Wordstock West, > > firework displays, upcoming > > quilt shows in Paducah and Houston, jobs, the > > internet, house buying, > > carnivorous beavers, Karen, Natalie, Namibia. > > ::sigh:: You had to be there. > > > > Betty > >Who has carnivorous beavers? Are they man-eaters? Chomp them off at the ankles! Elwood has to complete the story. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 12:10:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CHAFHB005191 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:10:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 739191E6005E; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:09:32 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45F0E1E6004E for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:09:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FD6D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 13:02:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13670434 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:02:45 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9CH2jG27913 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:02:45 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9CH2iW1026564 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:02:44 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9CH2gWq026543; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:02:43 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031012100349.00a3ed10@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:04:11 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Elwood, Mary Ann, Boo, Clarks In-Reply-To: <3F897453.75043D0E@maynor.net> References: <3F893241.D817B01A@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031012074448.00b7f880@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031012080450.00b70a60@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:33 AM 10/12/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty wrote: > > > We talked about MissionFest, Wordstock West, firework displays, upcoming > > quilt shows in Paducah and Houston, jobs, the internet, house buying, > > carnivorous beavers, Karen, Natalie, Namibia. ::sigh:: You had to be > there. > >LAME, LAME. COPOUT. Elwood is much too to reveal the >nitty-gritty dirt and details. Maybe Boo will come through. Maybe. He looked good, btw. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 12:31:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CHVkHB005461 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:31:46 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0918E1E60090; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:31:03 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCBA81E6005E for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:31:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FD744@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 13:24:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13671477 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:24:16 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9CHOGG30121 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:24:16 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.167.26]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031012172429.FTFW1781.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:24:29 -0400 Message-ID: <3F898E3C.4D68AFFC@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:24:12 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Elwood, Mary Ann, Boo, Clarks References: <3F893241.D817B01A@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031012074448.00b7f880@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031012080450.00b70a60@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031012100349.00a3ed10@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > >LAME, LAME. COPOUT. Elwood is much too to reveal the > >nitty-gritty dirt and details. Maybe Boo will come through. > > Maybe. He looked good, btw. Boo? He always looks good. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 13:02:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CI2KHB005836 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:02:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C0F671E60094; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:01:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922D71E6007A for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:01:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009FD7A7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 13:54:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13672462 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:54:15 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law9-oe17.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.121]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9CHsEG32406 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:54:15 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:54:09 -0700 Received: from 199.174.0.184 by law9-oe17.law9.hotmail.com with DAV; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 17:54:09 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [199.174.0.184] X-Originating-Email: [amyb_short@hotmail.com] From: "Amy Burns Short" To: Subject: Re: Paducah and Quilts! Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:54:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Oct 2003 17:54:09.0318 (UTC) FILETIME=[D645BC60:01C390E9] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >AS, who lives a mere 50 miles away -- for the time being, that is -- and who >is happy to provide local info to potential visitors .... >I'm sure they will appreciate this, too. The drive will probably be easier for them since they don't have to transport Fabio. >Betty The hound rather than the "hunk," I presume. AS (or maybe a kitty ...?) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 13:06:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CI66HB005904 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:06:06 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D9E631E60094; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:05:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5BD91E6007A for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:05:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FD7C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 13:58:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13672612 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:58:36 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law9-oe19.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.123]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9CHwZG00442 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:58:36 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:58:30 -0700 Received: from 199.174.0.184 by law9-oe19.law9.hotmail.com with DAV; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 17:58:30 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [199.174.0.184] X-Originating-Email: [amyb_short@hotmail.com] From: "Amy Burns Short" To: Subject: Guardian/Observer: 100 Greatest Novels of All Time Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:58:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Oct 2003 17:58:30.0451 (UTC) FILETIME=[71EB7830:01C390EA] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The article: http://books.guardian.co.uk/news/articles/0,6109,1061064,00.html The list: http://books.guardian.co.uk/news/articles/0,6109,1061083,00.html From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 13:06:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CI6vHB005918 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:06:57 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D572A1E60094; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:06:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6CCF1E6007A for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:06:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FD7CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 13:59:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13672636 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:59:27 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9CHxQG00546 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:59:27 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9CHxPeO029098 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:59:25 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9CHxOa2029084; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:59:25 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031012110018.00b6f890@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:00:53 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Paducah and Quilts! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:54 PM 10/12/2003 -0500, Amy Burns Short wrote: > >AS, who lives a mere 50 miles away -- for the time being, that is -- and >who > >is happy to provide local info to potential visitors .... > > > >I'm sure they will appreciate this, too. The drive will probably be easier >for them since they don't have to transport Fabio. > > >Betty > >The hound rather than the "hunk," I presume. > >AS (or maybe a kitty ...?) The hunk, or a facsimile there of. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 13:19:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CIJKHB006238 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:19:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A16531E60094; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:18:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FD371E60033 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:18:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FD7EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 14:11:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13672989 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:11:50 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9CIBnG01495 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:11:49 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-48.gwi.net [216.195.153.48]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9CIBkYr013761 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:11:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031012141037.00b56328@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:11:46 -0400 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: in Rashmi's footsteps---photos Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://clyde4006.fotopic.net/show_collection.php?id=60065 tinyurl: http://tinyurl.com.qnbq cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 13:42:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CIg6HB006751 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:42:06 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CA9731E600AF; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:41:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 988781E60033 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:41:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FD82C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 14:34:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13673807 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:34:36 -0400 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9CIYZG04002 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:34:35 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9CIYYkB009624 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:34:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F899E7E.7000702@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:33:34 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: What? References: <20031012153005.31947.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > > I had dinner guests and we ate in the family room > >>and then sipped on >> >>>wine while watching >>>Nebraska be pummeled by Missouri. >>> >> >> Mizzou. >> >> > Just hop a plane. You should consider editing. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 14:18:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CJI7HB007515 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:18:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AA3EE1E600B0; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:17:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B5551E600AF for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:17:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FD8A7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 15:10:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13674872 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:10:37 -0400 Received: from web20503.mail.yahoo.com (web20503.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.138]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9CJAaG06332 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:10:36 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:10:36 PDT Message-ID: <20031012191036.65419.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:10:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: in Rashmi's footsteps---photos To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031012141037.00b56328@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > http://clyde4006.fotopic.net/show_collection.php?id=60065 > > tinyurl: > > http://tinyurl.com.qnbq > > cwv Really wonderful. T. Roosevelt used to negotiate some of these mountains/hills. I am embarrassed to be the umpteenth person to ask, but why "Feather Bed"? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 14:25:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CJPjHB007666 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:25:45 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 562551E600B0; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:25:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1165C1E6002A for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:25:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0019DCFA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 15:18:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13675052 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:18:12 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9CJICG06846 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:18:12 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-48.gwi.net [216.195.153.48]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9CJIAQU005988 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:18:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031012151752.00b81170@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:18:15 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Guardian/Observer: 100 Greatest Novels of All Time In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >The list: >http://books.guardian.co.uk/news/articles/0,6109,1061083,00.html Hey, wait, there's nothing on there by Stephen King ! bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 14:30:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CJUjHB007868 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:30:46 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E43901E600C4; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:30:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B18831E600C2 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:30:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FD8DF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 15:23:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13675119 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:23:15 -0400 Received: from web20509.mail.yahoo.com (web20509.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.144]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9CJNFG07217 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:23:15 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20509.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:23:14 PDT Message-ID: <20031012192314.89285.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:23:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Guardian/Observer: 100 Greatest Novels of All Time To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031012151752.00b81170@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Hey, wait, there's nothing on there by Stephen King > ! > > > bonnie And Dickens doesn't come in until #16, with "David Copperfield". "The Big Sleep" then appears before any other Dickensian works. Strange, to me, at any rate. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 14:31:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CJVcHB007918 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:31:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B6FC11E600C6; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:30:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88DA11E600C4 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:30:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009FD8D3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 15:24:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13675147 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:24:08 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9CJO7G07271 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:24:07 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-48.gwi.net [216.195.153.48]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9CJO6Yp021956 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:24:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031012152213.00b8deb0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:24:11 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: in Rashmi's footsteps---photos In-Reply-To: <20031012191036.65419.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031012141037.00b56328@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I am embarrassed to be the umpteenth person to ask, >but why "Feather Bed"? I don't remember ever hearing why that little, heart-shaped lake is called The Featherbed. I've never seen it with so much water in it as it appears in Clyde's pictures. Usually is a reedy wet land. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 15:01:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CK1JHB008686 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:01:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BD13F1E600C4; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:00:35 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 898731E6002D for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:00:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FD914@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 15:53:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13675985 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:53:49 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9CJrmG09345 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:53:48 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h9CJrkDU007486 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 21:53:46 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h9CJrkxZ007484 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 21:53:46 +0200 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 21:53:45 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Guardian/Observer: 100 Greatest Novels of All Time Message-ID: <20031012195345.GA7478@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031012151752.00b81170@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031012151752.00b81170@pop.gwi.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev: = >The list: = >http://books.guardian.co.uk/news/articles/0,6109,1061083,00.html = = Hey, wait, there's nothing on there by Stephen King ! = You're not serious, right? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 15:14:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CKE4HB008924 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:14:05 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 757511E600C6; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:13:20 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFA571E600B0 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:13:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FD97D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 16:06:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13676643 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 16:06:32 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9CK6WG10839 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 16:06:32 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.167.26]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031012200649.GMBO1828.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 16:06:49 -0400 Message-ID: <3F89B444.BDC5EA43@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:06:28 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: in Rashmi's footsteps---photos References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031012141037.00b56328@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > > http://clyde4006.fotopic.net/show_collection.php?id=60065 Nice pictures! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 15:18:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CKIBHB009018 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:18:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 034251E600B0; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:17:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32F5F1E6002D for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:17:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FD989@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 16:10:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13676735 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 16:10:38 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9CKAcG11017 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 16:10:38 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 6B3CA2B8E9; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:10:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62B452B8E7 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:10:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:10:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Guardian/Observer: 100 Greatest Novels of All Time In-Reply-To: <20031012195345.GA7478@yoccoz.multinix.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > bonniev: > = >The list: > = >http://books.guardian.co.uk/news/articles/0,6109,1061083,00.html > = Hey, wait, there's nothing on there by Stephen King ! Here's another list (no Stephen King here either) http://www.livresse.com/meilleurs/meilleurs-norvege.shtml Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 15:23:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CKNMHB009109 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:23:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2C2C21E600C6; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:22:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E4811E600C4 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:22:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0019DDDD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 16:15:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13676957 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 16:15:47 -0400 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9CKFkG11641 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 16:15:46 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9CKFO7Q006450 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:15:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F89B635.9030600@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:14:45 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: in Rashmi's footsteps---photos References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031012141037.00b56328@pop.gwi.net> <3F89B444.BDC5EA43@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This really isn't helping me to buckle down and get to work. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 17:47:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CMlfHB013186 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 17:47:41 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C27F21E600DD; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 17:46:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 942B21E600AE for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 17:46:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0019E149@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 18:40:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13684952 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 18:40:08 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9CMe8G26353 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 18:40:08 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-48.gwi.net [216.195.153.48]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9CMe3Qa023677; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 18:40:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031012183725.00b61890@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 18:37:55 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: in Rashmi's footsteps---photos In-Reply-To: <3F89B635.9030600@swbell.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031012141037.00b56328@pop.gwi.net> <3F89B444.BDC5EA43@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:14 PM 10/12/2003 -0500, Rita Chapman wrote: >This really isn't helping me to buckle down and get to work. Well, one does what one can.... cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 18:33:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CNXbHB014954 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 18:33:37 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EF9071E600C4; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 18:32:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C232A1E600AE for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 18:32:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FDDBD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 19:26:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13686216 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 19:26:05 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9CNQ4G29747 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 19:26:04 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-48.gwi.net [216.195.153.48]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9CNQ2Yp046871 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 19:26:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031012192548.00b9d8c0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 19:26:09 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Guardian/Observer: 100 Greatest Novels of All Time In-Reply-To: <20031012195345.GA7478@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031012151752.00b81170@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031012151752.00b81170@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >bonniev: >= >The list: >= >http://books.guardian.co.uk/news/articles/0,6109,1061083,00.html >= >= Hey, wait, there's nothing on there by Stephen King ! > >You're not serious, right? Hey, he's getting a serious award and everything. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 18:47:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9CNllHB015250 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 18:47:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 88FB31E600C4; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 18:47:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51DCC1E600AE for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 18:47:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009FDDE7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 19:40:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13686811 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 19:40:14 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9CNeEG31748 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 19:40:14 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.167.26]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031012234024.LQEH1826.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 19:40:24 -0400 Message-ID: <3F89E65A.3ED09700@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 18:40:10 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Fake Letters Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This is pretty slimy, imho: http://www.theolympian.com/home/news/20031011/frontpage/121390.shtml -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 19:15:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9D0FDHB015909 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 19:15:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9218B1E600C4; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 19:14:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62AC51E600AE for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 19:14:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FDE71@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 20:07:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13687935 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:07:40 -0400 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:OB0hpCkjDNQcsaPqpBka1FXM5oAQMFj0@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9D07eG02147 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:07:40 -0400 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 974D72FE52 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 17:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E7A2332B for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 17:07:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3F896B3B.8A6A8836@maynor.net> References: <3F893241.D817B01A@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031012074448.00b7f880@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Who is the patron saint of shapleless jumpers? X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Neal-Stephenson: Paper is a really advanced technology Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 17:07:28 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: What? Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 7:54 AM -0700 10/12/03, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty wrote: > >> We were having dinner with Mary Ann, Elwood, and Ken. > >So what all did y'all gossip about? What happens in Santa Clara, stays in Santa Clara. Mary Ann did show us her new molas. >And how were the quilts? They paled in comparison to Mary Ann's jacket, which, as you may know, won a blue ribbon in the wearable art category. The quilt world is a subculture I could never have imagined. I had no idea one could do such things with textiles. Ken Miller Esthetic Correspondent The Lostin Times From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 19:21:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9D0LMHB015992 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 19:21:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4D9B71E600C4; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 19:20:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CB0B1E600AE for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 19:20:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009FDE79@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 20:13:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13688161 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:13:49 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9D0DnG02639 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:13:49 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-48.gwi.net [216.195.153.48]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9D0DlQU032766 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:13:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031012200426.00b9fd40@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:13:53 -0400 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: bonniev Subject: A rant Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What the fuck was I thinking????!!! Obviously, I wasn't thinking at all. I should have remembered Clyde's cardinal rule: "Just because you can, doesn't mean you have to." While we were up in northern Wisconsin last week, Holly consulted with me about the wallpaper in the cottage's bathroom. It is indeed a very bad and ugly wallpaper job. She asked me if I would consider redoing the wallpaper if she paid for my plane ticket up there. I appear to be the only person she knows who claims competence in wallpapering, although she knows many PhDs. Big mistake. Huge mistake. I said "Sure." In the depths of my heart, I truly thought she didn't mean it. I thought she wouldn't get around to it. I thought a better option than having me do it would come up. But, no. I am now stuck doing wallpaper. But it gets worse. She forgot to take measurements before she flew home to Ohio on Sunday. But she called and asked that I take measurements before I flew home to Maine on Monday. So Clyde helped me measure and we sent the sheet of measurements home with Tom when he drove home to Ohio on Thursday. This evening Holly called me to gleefully announce that she has already found the wallpaper and the border that she dearly loves. But it isn't unpasted like I asked her to look for. It's pre-pasted which means it will be one drippy, awful job. And it isn't scrubbable like I recommended. It is merely washable which means it will be thin, will easily tear, and will be a messy, drippy awful job. Oh, and she has already checked out Travelocity and getting a flight to Green Bay on the Thursday before Memorial Day might mean leaving Bangor at 6 a.m. which means leaving Bar Harbor at about 3:30 a.m. or spending the night before in a hotel at the airport. Next time I get involved with wallpaper, somebody please shoot me. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 19:21:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9D0LaHB015995 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 19:21:36 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B7D661E600C4; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 19:20:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 899EF1E600AE for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 19:20:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009FDE7A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 20:14:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13688169 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:14:03 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9D0E3G02660 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:14:03 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-48.gwi.net [216.195.153.48]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9D0E0QW032775; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:14:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031012201306.00b56c98@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:13:59 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: What? In-Reply-To: References: <3F896B3B.8A6A8836@maynor.net> <3F893241.D817B01A@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031012074448.00b7f880@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:07 PM 10/12/2003 -0700, Bookrat wrote: >What happens in Santa Clara, stays in Santa Clara. Mille grazie. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 19:24:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9D0OeHB016143 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 19:24:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 36C601E600C4; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 19:23:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07C031E600AE for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 19:23:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FDE87@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 20:17:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13688410 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:17:07 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9D0H7G03070 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:17:07 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-48.gwi.net [216.195.153.48]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9D0H4Yr052456; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:17:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031012201543.00b4fc30@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:17:04 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: A rant In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031012200426.00b9fd40@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:13 PM 10/12/2003 -0400, bonniev wrote: >Next time I get involved with wallpaper, somebody please shoot me. No. I'll just send you on the seven peaks hike with April. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 19:29:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9D0TSHB016361 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 19:29:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D11BF1E600CA; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 19:28:42 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ECE91E600C4 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 19:28:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FDE9D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 20:21:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13688622 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:21:56 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9D0LtG03441 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:21:55 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-48.gwi.net [216.195.153.48]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9D0LqQW033468; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:21:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031012201756.00b4ef70@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:21:50 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Question for betty/adam In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031012100349.00a3ed10@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <3F897453.75043D0E@maynor.net> <3F893241.D817B01A@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031012074448.00b7f880@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031012080450.00b70a60@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Today was my first experience with Fotopic.net. I'm rather unimpressed. The photos don't seem to have the same clarity/sharpness that I see from my own photo files here, which now are my screen saver. What has been your experience? cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 20:07:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9D16xHB017054 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:07:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AF4751E600CA; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:06:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C4891E600AE for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:06:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FDF63@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 20:59:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13690615 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:59:26 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9D0xQG07727 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:59:26 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.167.26]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031013005928.OXXU1828.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:59:28 -0400 Message-ID: <3F89F8EA.E7029B42@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 19:59:22 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A rant References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031012200426.00b9fd40@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Next time I get involved with wallpaper, somebody please shoot me. Perhaps you should write up some rules, including the kind of wallpaper you'll work with, the flight schedules you'll accept, etc. I've been thinking about experimenting with painting when I get a chance -- painting this room. Should I? Or how about you come down and do it? A lunch friend told me that I should buy high-grade Benajamin Moore paint -- that I should stay away from Sherwyn-Williams. Is that true? No hurry to answer. I'm not going to do this for a while -- if ever. Have y'all noticed that the music in "American Grafitti" is not of the right time? It's from anywhere within a six-or-eight-year period. I know how to identify when most songs of that era were popular since I associate most of them with specific times/events. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 20:07:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9D17WHB017062 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:07:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E82701E600CA; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:06:45 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4FA41E600AE for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:06:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009FDF74@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 20:59:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13690637 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:59:59 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9D0xwG07779 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:59:58 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <20031013005952012004501oe> (Authid: adamh1); Mon, 13 Oct 2003 00:59:52 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Question for betty/adam Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:59:51 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031012201756.00b4ef70@pop.gwi.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Today was my first experience with Fotopic.net. I'm rather > unimpressed. The photos don't seem to have the same > clarity/sharpness that > I see from my own photo files here, which now are my screen saver. What > has been your experience? They're resized to fit your browser. Click the "full size" button and see if that makes a difference. --Adam adamh1@comcast.net From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 20:13:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9D1DGHB017185 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:13:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 60D9B1E600CA; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:12:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C4F81E600AE for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:12:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FDF9B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 21:05:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13690835 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 21:05:43 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9D15hG08266 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 21:05:43 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.167.26]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031013010545.PANU1828.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 21:05:45 -0400 Message-ID: <3F89FA63.C651926D@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:05:39 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Question for betty/adam References: <3F897453.75043D0E@maynor.net> <3F893241.D817B01A@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031012074448.00b7f880@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031012080450.00b70a60@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031012201756.00b4ef70@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > > Today was my first experience with Fotopic.net. I'm rather > unimpressed. The photos don't seem to have the same clarity/sharpness that > I see from my own photo files here, which now are my screen saver. What > has been your experience? I'm not Betty or Adam, but I will say that I chose not to use fotopic.net again after my one experience with it. I don't remember noticing any real difference in the quality of my not-so-great photography (difference between the ones on fotopic and the ones on my own websites, I mean -- I always notice that ones on the web are inferior to the same pictures on my own computer). But I found fotopic kind of a bother -- and it put my pictures in its own order, not in the order I wanted them in. (Well, ok -- so its own order was alphabetical by file name -- if I had realized it was going to do that, I could have named them appropriately for the order I wanted.) Anyway, I haven't returned. (And I no longer remember how to find my pictures that are there -- that's another disadvantage. At least when they're on my own sites, I know where to find them.) The pictures I put on fotopic.net were my Acadiafest pictures. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 20:23:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9D1NEHB017373 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:23:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C301C1E600DD; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:22:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 943F21E600CA for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:22:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009FDF9C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 21:15:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13691022 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 21:15:40 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9D1FeG08824 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 21:15:40 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-48.gwi.net [216.195.153.48]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9D1FcYp059325 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 21:15:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031012211420.00bb1f28@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 21:15:45 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: A rant In-Reply-To: <3F89F8EA.E7029B42@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031012200426.00b9fd40@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Perhaps you should write up some rules, including the kind of wallpaper >you'll work with, the flight schedules you'll accept, etc. I thought I had. But people don't obey. >I've been thinking about experimenting with painting when I get a chance >-- painting this room. Should I? Or how about you come down and do >it? A lunch friend told me that I should buy high-grade Benajamin Moore >paint -- that I should stay away from Sherwyn-Williams. Is that true? > -- Natalie Of course you should try. You aren't too old to learn patience and due care. I don't see any need to stay away from Sherwin Williams. Just don't buy their cheapest grade of paint. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 20:27:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9D1RCHB017429 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:27:12 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E08D01E600DD; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:26:25 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE4B31E600CA for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:26:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009FDFB5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 21:19:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13691202 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 21:18:49 -0400 Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com (web20502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9D1ImG09070 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 21:18:48 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 18:18:48 PDT Message-ID: <20031013011848.53533.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 18:18:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Fake Letters To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F89E65A.3ED09700@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU If the story holds up, someone is liable, in one case, for prosecution for forgery. But I doubt any serviceman would pursue that, under these circumstances. Still, if the soldier knew nothing at all of the letter, there is an element of identity theft, as well. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 20:33:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9D1XuHB017563 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:33:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B3F701E600E2; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:33:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F6191E600DD for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:33:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FDFC0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 21:26:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13691058 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 21:26:22 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9D1GMG08876 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 21:16:22 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9D1G4Sb004321 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 21:16:07 -0400 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 21:16:18 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A rant In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031012200426.00b9fd40@pop.gwi.net> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031012200426.00b9fd40@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 12 Oct 2003, bonniev wrote: >Next time I get involved with wallpaper, somebody please shoot me. Oh no! - we have needed a wallpaper queen! You are obviously elected! (Not that it will do me any good, I know.) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 20:41:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9D1f5HB017728 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:41:05 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1027A1E600E8; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:40:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5CFF1E600E2 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:40:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009FDFEE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 21:33:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13691713 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 21:33:32 -0400 Received: from web20512.mail.yahoo.com (web20512.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9D1XVG10022 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 21:33:32 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20512.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 18:33:31 PDT Message-ID: <20031013013331.20359.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 18:33:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: A rant To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > On Sun, 12 Oct 2003, bonniev wrote: > > >Next time I get involved with wallpaper, somebody > please shoot me. Who on this "service" do you reckon is going to shoot you? Who would hang wallpaper then? Anyway, the best you could probably do is get someone to shoot you with a tranquilizer dart. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 12 21:09:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9D29JHB018405 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 21:09:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7FC3E1E600F2; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 21:08:32 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 434671E600ED for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 21:08:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FE076@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Oct 2003 22:01:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13692798 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 22:01:45 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9D21jG13284 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 22:01:45 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-48.gwi.net [216.195.153.48]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9D21eQY042912; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 22:01:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031012215358.00b4ea10@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 21:57:34 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Question for betty/adam In-Reply-To: <3F89FA63.C651926D@maynor.net> References: <3F897453.75043D0E@maynor.net> <3F893241.D817B01A@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031012074448.00b7f880@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031012080450.00b70a60@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031012201756.00b4ef70@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:05 PM 10/12/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I'm not Betty or Adam, but I will say that I chose not to use >fotopic.net again after my one experience with it. I don't remember >noticing any real difference in the quality of my not-so-great >photography (difference between the ones on fotopic and the ones on my >own websites, I mean -- I always notice that ones on the web are >inferior to the same pictures on my own computer). But I found fotopic >kind of a bother -- and it put my pictures in its own order, not in the >order I wanted them in. (Well, ok -- so its own order was alphabetical >by file name -- if I had realized it was going to do that, I could have >named them appropriately for the order I wanted.) Anyway, I haven't >returned. (And I no longer remember how to find my pictures that are >there -- that's another disadvantage. At least when they're on my own >sites, I know where to find them.) The pictures I put on fotopic.net >were my Acadiafest pictures. Thanks to you and to Adam. I'm inclined to try another outlet. I suppose there's a way to edit (i.e., rename, rearrange, etc.) the stuff on fotopic, but it isn't readily apparent. Perhaps if I work up the courage, I may try my own site on gwi. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 00:43:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9D5hQHB019703 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 00:43:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E92D41E600D9; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 00:42:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5D4E1E60050 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 00:42:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009FE897@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 1:35:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13708837 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 01:35:51 -0400 Received: from flex.com (flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9D5ZpG04375 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 01:35:51 -0400 Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9D5ZaU4060861 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 19:35:49 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from mem@flex.com) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 19:36:08 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: A rant Reply-To: mem@flex.com Message-ID: <3F89AD28.7134.30EAE3@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3F89F8EA.E7029B42@maynor.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-Flex-Prefilter-Spam-Score: 0 () X-Flex-Loose-Spamcheck: NO X-Flex-Scan: Flexnet Mimedefang/Clamd Virii Checker - PASSED - No Virus Found Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 12 Oct 2003 at 19:59, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Have y'all noticed that the music in "American Grafitti" is not of the > right time? There is no music in American Grafitti. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 02:36:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9D7aqHB021733 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 02:36:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BB0E71E60112; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 02:36:03 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88D851E60110 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 02:36:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FEA8E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 3:29:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13713529 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 03:29:16 -0400 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9D7TGG14605 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 03:29:16 -0400 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 09:30:41 +0200 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id SBZZXX9Y; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 09:30:39 +0200 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031013092749.0204b060@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 09:29:11 +0200 Subject: Correcting the 404s In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031010130706.00a67d00@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031010134817.0202bfe8@localhost> <200310091207.h99C7P74018289@ra.msstate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 13:07 10.10.2003 -0700 skrev Betty Clark: >Beautiful. A couple of them were 404's.. >betty > > >>Or we made even longer excursions. Apart from the one in the mountains >>where we were to occupied to do any photographing, we also went to Knossos >>and cooled ourselves down in style: >> >>http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/knossos.jpg >> http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/iknossos.jpg >>We spent our final two days in Crete in the northwest, just outside >>Chania. Some friends of ours are building a house in the village Pano >>Stalo, a few kilometres up from the coast, and they have a beautiful view >>from their roof terrasse: >> >>http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/eoghutsikt.jpg http://home.no.net/espenore/2003/eoghsutsikt.jpg Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 03:32:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9D8WhHB022776 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 03:32:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E09291E60117; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 03:31:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B31C11E60114 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 03:31:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009FEB49@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 4:25:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13715021 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 04:25:07 -0400 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9D8P7G17942 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 04:25:07 -0400 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 10:26:32 +0200 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id SBZZXYLY; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 10:26:28 +0200 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031013102426.03583fc0@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 10:25:01 +0200 Subject: Re: Kinship Terms In-Reply-To: <3F8879F8.C724FDD7@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 16:45 11.10.2003 -0500 skrev Natalie Maynor: >Is there a term for being a half-brother as well as a first-cousin? > >Here's the relationship I'm trying to describe -- the relationship >between Alfred and Lindsey. Alfred was the illegitimate son of >Richard. Lindsey was the legitimate son of Richard. Alfred's mother >was the sister of Lindsey's mother. So through their mothers, they're >first cousins, but through their father they're brothers. I've heard of >double-first-cousins, but this is something more than that. Have you read Middlesex? I found that was a very good book. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 03:57:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9D8vKHB023223 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 03:57:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E38231E60117; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 03:56:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF2BE1E60114 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 03:56:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0019EDC7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 4:49:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13715539 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 04:49:43 -0400 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9D8nhG19140 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 04:49:43 -0400 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 10:51:08 +0200 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id SBZZXYT1; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 10:51:04 +0200 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031013104344.020bda40@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 10:49:36 +0200 Subject: Re: in Rashmi's footsteps---photos In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031012141037.00b56328@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 14:11 12.10.2003 -0400 skrev clyde w. voigtlander: >http://clyde4006.fotopic.net/show_collection.php?id=60065 Beautiful! Ingjerd and I went on a hike yesterday which led to more climbing than we had planned when our trail sort of disappeared into where they ar constructing a new downhill slope - Ingjerd wasn't too happy with my choice of way, especially since there had been a warning sign that they were blowing up parts of the rocks and that if we found orselves within the construction area and heard the warning we should just throw ourselves flat on the ground. But we managed to get out of this and into the unharmed forest again. We found some mushrooms even if this is late in the season but what really amazed us was themink we met in a small brook. These minks are descendants of fugitives from the fur industry - they are American mink and so new (not so new any more) in the Norwegian fauna. But even if he or she was an illigal immigrant it was a joy to see it swimming and having fun. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 04:03:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9D930HB023393 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 04:03:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0E8D71E60119; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 04:02:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0DC21E60117 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 04:02:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009FEBA4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 4:55:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13715771 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 04:55:24 -0400 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9D8tNG19522 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 04:55:23 -0400 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 10:54:42 +0200 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id SBZZXY5R; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 10:54:39 +0200 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031013105246.035e6888@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 10:53:12 +0200 Subject: Re: Guardian/Observer: 100 Greatest Novels of All Time In-Reply-To: References: <20031012195345.GA7478@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 13:10 12.10.2003 -0700 skrev Ann Borkin: >> bonniev: >> = >The list: >> = >http://books.guardian.co.uk/news/articles/0,6109,1061083,00.html >> = Hey, wait, there's nothing on there by Stephen King ! > >Here's another list (no Stephen King here either) > >http://www.livresse.com/meilleurs/meilleurs-norvege.shtml But at least this list has Njál's saga. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 05:20:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DAKFHB024808 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 05:20:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 07B7A1E60133; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 05:19:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C96401E6012D for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 05:19:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009FEDAC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 6:12:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13719598 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 06:12:38 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DACcG24563 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 06:12:38 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.164.66]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031013101258.ZIQK1822.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 06:12:58 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8A7A92.3F261008@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 05:12:34 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A rant References: <3F89AD28.7134.30EAE3@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Michael E. Macmillan" wrote: > There is no music in American Grafitti. There isn't? I must've been having auditory hallucinations. I was watching a tape of it that I had made a while back because I had read a review that reminded me that I hadn't watched that tape yet. (I'd seen AG before -- just not in a long time.) The review was of a movie my uncle mentioned having seen on tv lately and enjoying -- and now I can't remember the name of the movie. The name was the name of a popular song -- a Beatles song, I think. I hate it when things ooze out of the cracks in my brain. Anyway, the review said that this movie with the song name was terrible but that it would probably have a few fans among devotees of '60s period pieces. At some point in the review AG was mentioned -- as a contrast -- as in how much better AG is. I'd never heard of the movie my uncle mentioned. He said he liked it because he had never understood the '60s very well. Did I ever mention that he went to Jerry Rubin's wedding? Or maybe it was a wedding reception. He went because he was close friends with the parents of the bride and with the bride herself, but iirc he said that her parents didn't go -- that there was some family feuding going on re her chosen lifestyle and marriage partner. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 05:23:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DAN4HB024838 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 05:23:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5465A1E6012D; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 05:22:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22AC11E60128 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 05:22:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FEDCB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 6:15:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13719760 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 06:15:27 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DAFRG24960 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 06:15:27 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.164.66]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031013101547.ZJEY1822.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 06:15:47 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8A7B3A.860F90AE@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 05:15:22 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Kinship Terms References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031013102426.03583fc0@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen Ore wrote: > Have you read Middlesex? I found that was a very good book. No, I haven't. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 09:04:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DE4HHB031151 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 09:04:17 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0019F46A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 9:56:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13725558 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 09:56:15 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DDuFG06125 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 09:56:15 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0019F474@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 9:56:15 -0400 Message-Id: <200310131356.h9DDuFG06125@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 09:56:15 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: A rant To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 05:12:34 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >"Michael E. Macmillan" wrote: > >> There is no music in American Grafitti. > >There isn't? I must've been having auditory hallucinations. There are very few movies with music. MeM, are you saying that there is no music in AG? Or that it's not a musical like "Grease"? > I was >watching a tape of it that I had made a while back because I had read a >review that reminded me that I hadn't watched that tape yet. (I'd seen >AG before -- just not in a long time.) The review was of a movie my >uncle mentioned having seen on tv lately and enjoying -- and now I can't >remember the name of the movie. The name was the name of a popular song >-- a Beatles song, I think. I hate it when things ooze out of the >cracks in my brain. Very messy. >Anyway, the review said that this movie with the song name was terrible >but that it would probably have a few fans among devotees of '60s period >pieces. At some point in the review AG was mentioned -- as a contrast >-- as in how much better AG is. I'd never heard of the movie my uncle >mentioned. He said he liked it because he had never understood the '60s >very well. Did I ever mention that he went to Jerry Rubin's wedding? >Or maybe it was a wedding reception. He went because he was close >friends with the parents of the bride and with the bride herself, but >iirc he said that her parents didn't go -- that there was some family >feuding going on re her chosen lifestyle and marriage partner. They no doubt had a sense that he would one day lose perspective and become an affluent hack. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 10:06:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DF6sHB000778 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 10:06:54 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FF410@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 10:58:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13730478 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 10:58:52 -0400 Received: from web20511.mail.yahoo.com (web20511.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.150]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9DEwpG19053 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 10:58:51 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20511.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 07:58:50 PDT Message-ID: <20031013145850.88654.qmail@web20511.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 07:58:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: A rant To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F8A7A92.3F261008@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > "Michael E. Macmillan" wrote: > > > There is no music in American Grafitti. > > There isn't? I must've been having auditory > hallucinations. I believe it's mem's considered opinion that, to his ear, there is no music in AG (which means Attorney General, to me). __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 10:22:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DFMZHB001085 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 10:22:36 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 40DC91E60020; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 10:21:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BB8C1E6001D for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 10:21:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0019F732@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:14:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13731675 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:14:56 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DFEuG21524 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:14:56 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A94PZ-0001Rv-CP for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:15:05 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031013080825.02333be0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:15:36 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Fake Letters In-Reply-To: <20031013011848.53533.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> References: <3F89E65A.3ED09700@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Blog post with some more details: . I wouldn't be surprised if there were originally a good motive in here somewhere, but it was a pretty dim-witted stunt. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 10:43:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DFhIHB001461 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 10:43:18 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9980B1E60123; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 10:42:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6719F1E6001D for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 10:42:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0019F7C7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:35:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13733185 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:35:39 -0400 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9DFZcG24563 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:35:38 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:35:37 PDT Message-ID: <20031013153537.97480.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:35:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Fake Letters To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031013080825.02333be0@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I wouldn't be surprised if there were originally a > good motive in here > somewhere, but it was a pretty dim-witted stunt. > > Pete So, in essence, one soldier states that he did not sign the "letter". The fact that the other servicemen did know, agree with the content, and sign the letters, legally takes the monkey off the backs of the "management". "Dim-witted" is a kindness, in this case. The personnel who put this little skit in motion obviously could not see beyond their noses - a dumb trick that redounded to their detriment. It was just plain stoopid. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 12:17:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DHGrHB003142 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 12:17:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5E21B1E60138; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 12:16:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 177681E60133 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 12:16:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0019FA44@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:09:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13739765 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:09:13 -0400 Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DH9Db08698 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:09:13 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HMP00AF0GZC68@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:09:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.71] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:05:41 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:05:41 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Angel Dog To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Message-id: <175b84173735.173735175b84@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I must live a charmed life. What a perfect puppy! We picked up Laszlo in Malden, MA yesterday. I couldn't believe how much bigger and more dog-like the three remaining pups got since we saw them last. We stuck around for about an hour, paperwork and stuff, and put him in his crate for the long ride home. He whined for about the first three minutes only, then not another peep the rest of the ride home for the most part -- a couple of low humming sounds. Then he got a little carsick somewhere between Waterbury and Danbury (CT) which caused some , but really, he was just so good. Our normally 3.5-4 hour trip was more like 5, much of it stop and start which can be tough on a puppy. When we got him home, we fed him -- he just inhaled his food -- he wasn't fed in the morning to avoid accidents. And we showed him around -- his bed, his toys, threw some tennis balls -- he's got the funniest bouncing chase. We ate our dinner and he -- unbelievable -- just stayed on his bed watching us for the most part. He had one little accident (pee), but I consider it my fault, I should have taken him out when he got up from his nap. He otherwise has consistently taken to going in the same place and knows what to do when we get there. What surprised me is that he went on his bed. I took care of it with Nature's Miracle so hopefully this isn't a repeat performance. (Right now by the way, I'm wishing I didn't use all of my film -- he is lying, next to his bed on his back, legs hanging down humanlike, one front paw on his naked little belly, the other outstretched to the side just looking so content). Anyway, he's taken well to his leash already, we've been doing lots of walking and exploring. And when I stopped to talk to a neighbor, she was so impressed that he just sat like a little angel by my side. And he is just so cute. Absolutely wonderful. Oh, the thing I really have to work on in the next couple of days is his crate. He doesn't like it much when I leave him in there. I think maybe the long car ride made it seem like a traumatic place for him. Or he just doesn't like being left period. But I'm going to have to do it. I just have to figure out how to make it a pleasant thing for him...advice welcome. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 12:56:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DHuQHB003867 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 12:56:26 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 02E151E6005F; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 12:55:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5DDE1E60054 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 12:55:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009FF8C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:48:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13742328 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:48:46 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DHmhb15523 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:48:44 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-33.gwi.net [216.195.150.33]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9DHmfYp044865 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:48:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031013134740.00b9a0c8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:48:50 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Angel Dog In-Reply-To: <175b84173735.173735175b84@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Or he just doesn't like being left period. But I'm going to have to do it. >I just have to figure out how to make it a pleasant thing for him...advice >welcome. --Marie Congratulations on the new addition to the family. Maybe you could toss his toy in the crate so that he can bound in there to get and bring it back to you. That way he will learn that he can go in and out of the crate and it isn't a dire thing. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 12:59:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DHx3HB003921 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 12:59:03 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9F9D61E60054; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 12:58:10 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 605C21E60045 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 12:58:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009FF8E6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:51:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13742619 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:51:23 -0400 Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DHpMb16232 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:51:22 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HMP0096FIXM80@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:51:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.71] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:47:42 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:47:42 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Fotopic To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Message-id: <197851197efa.197efa197851@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: > >returned. (And I no longer remember how to find my pictures that are > >there -- that's another disadvantage. At least when they're on > my own > >sites, I know where to find them.) The pictures I put on fotopic.net > >were my Acadiafest pictures. http://maynor.fotopic.net/ I'm planning on putting my Laszlo pics there when I get them developed because I've been too lazy to set up my own site. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 13:16:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DIGEHB004267 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:16:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 017461E60060; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:15:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B86E11E6005F for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:15:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FF969@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:08:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13744053 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:08:34 -0400 Received: from web20509.mail.yahoo.com (web20509.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.144]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9DI8Yb19200 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:08:34 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20509.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:08:33 PDT Message-ID: <20031013180833.16522.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:08:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Angel Dog To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <175b84173735.173735175b84@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > And he is just so cute. Absolutely wonderful. > > Oh, the thing I really have to work on in the next > couple of days is his crate. He doesn't like it much > when I leave him in there. I think maybe the long > car ride made it seem like a traumatic place for > him. Or he just doesn't like being left period. But > I'm going to have to do it. I just have to figure > out how to make it a pleasant thing for him...advice > welcome. > > Marie Congratulations! Get some film. Did you choose the wrinkledy one? What does he eat that accords with your approval? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 13:25:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DIP7HB004470 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:25:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A17661E60060; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:24:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 358641E6005F for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:24:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FF9AD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:17:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13744466 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:17:26 -0400 Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DIHQb20409 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:17:26 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HMP0057YK50NW@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:17:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.71] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:13:54 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:13:54 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Angel Dog To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Congratulations! Get some film. Did you choose the > wrinkledy one? What does he eat that accords with > your approval? He's eating Eukanuba puppy food. I am going to take the roll of 24 exposures that I took in the last 24 hours to the store and pick up some more. I'm also going to take my digital camera to Circuit City and see if they have any clue as to what it wrong with it. The lens cover won't open all the way so it's been out of commission. And thanks. He's still sleeping, and he's actually under the ottoman in the living room now -- he loves it there. I should have him in his crate, but I'll get him in there when I go to do the camera things. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 13:31:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DIV2HB004624 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:31:03 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 05A211E60133; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:30:10 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91A5D1E60128 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:30:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009FF9BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:23:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13744800 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:23:22 -0400 Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.74]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DINLb21456 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:23:22 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HMP00JJ0KDBMD@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:22:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.71] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:18:51 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:18:51 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Fotopic To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > http://maynor.fotopic.net/ > > I'm planning on putting my Laszlo pics there when I get them > developed because I've been too lazy to set up my own site. Not at maynor.fotopic.net, but marieascher.fotopic.net...of course. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 13:34:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DIYcHB004670 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:34:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AF95B1E60133; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:33:45 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 553DC1E60128 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:33:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FF9DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:26:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13745153 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:26:54 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DIQrb22097 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:26:53 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9DIQb2f025265 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:26:37 -0700 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9DIQaJC025242; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:26:37 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031013112342.00a5a8d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:24:23 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Kinship Terms In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031013102426.03583fc0@localhost> References: <3F8879F8.C724FDD7@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:25 AM 10/13/2003 +0200, Espen Ore wrote: >16:45 11.10.2003 -0500 skrev Natalie Maynor: > >Is there a term for being a half-brother as well as a first-cousin? > > > >Here's the relationship I'm trying to describe -- the relationship > >between Alfred and Lindsey. Alfred was the illegitimate son of > >Richard. Lindsey was the legitimate son of Richard. Alfred's mother > >was the sister of Lindsey's mother. So through their mothers, they're > >first cousins, but through their father they're brothers. I've heard of > >double-first-cousins, but this is something more than that. > >Have you read Middlesex? I found that was a very good book. We (Sandra and I) read it for our book club meeting last month. It was good. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 13:39:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DIdGHB004745 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:39:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A54221E60139; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:38:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4518D1E60133 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:38:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FFA16@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:31:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13745390 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:31:36 -0400 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9DIVYb22698 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:31:34 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:31:31 PDT Message-ID: <20031013183131.27881.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:31:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Kinship Terms To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031013112342.00a5a8d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > We (Sandra and I) read it for our book club meeting > last month. It was good. Is it about convoluted families, like Natalie's? Weren't you scheduled to read something by Dickens in the near future? If so, which one? Questions, questions. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 13:56:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DIuBHB005133 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:56:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 430331E60138; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:55:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D79E51E60133 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:55:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009FFA49@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:48:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13746026 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:48:30 -0400 Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.75]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DImUb24805 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:48:30 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HMP00JN9KGKSG@mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:24:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.71] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:20:50 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:20:50 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Angel Dog To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <19d29219d5ac.19d5ac19d292@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Did you choose the > wrinkledy one? Oh, I didn't answer this. No. This is the other candidate. He's plenty wrinkly himself, but not like the other one. That guy went to live in Vermont where he's going to be a super hunter. I hope I see him again. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 14:01:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DJ1IHB005260 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:01:18 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5AF3B1E60138; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:00:25 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26A3E1E60060 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:00:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FFA69@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:53:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13746634 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:53:30 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DIrTb25891 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:53:29 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9DIrD2f000580 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:53:13 -0700 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9DIrCJC000557; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:53:12 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031013114840.00a5cb20@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:50:59 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Kinship Terms In-Reply-To: <20031013183131.27881.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031013112342.00a5a8d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:31 AM 10/13/2003 -0700, Lynne Weber wrote: > > We (Sandra and I) read it for our book club meeting > > last month. It was good. > > >Is it about convoluted families, like Natalie's? >Weren't you scheduled to read something by Dickens in >the near future? If so, which one? > >Questions, questions. I don't know enough abut Natalie's family. It's not as bad as having a RRB though. We can read about Dickens or anything by Dickens. We're going to go see A Christmas Carol in December. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 14:01:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DJ1VHB005275 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:01:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 46D5B1E60060; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:00:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FBF51E6005A for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:00:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FFA7D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:53:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13746696 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:53:43 -0400 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9DIrhb25974 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:53:43 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:53:42 PDT Message-ID: <20031013185342.28395.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:53:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Angel Dog To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <19d29219d5ac.19d5ac19d292@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Oh, I didn't answer this. No. This is the other > candidate. He's plenty wrinkly himself, but not like > the other one. That guy went to live in Vermont > where he's going to be a super hunter. I hope I see > him again. The one you take home always turns out best, anyway. Part of me wants another dog - the smart part tells me it's a pain in the begonia, for where I am in life at present. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 14:03:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DJ3qHB005335 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:03:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8B2D41E60060; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:02:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 194421E6005A for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:02:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FFABD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:56:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13747037 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:56:11 -0400 Received: from web20512.mail.yahoo.com (web20512.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9DIuBb26544 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:56:11 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20512.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:56:09 PDT Message-ID: <20031013185609.86979.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:56:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Kinship Terms To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031013114840.00a5cb20@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > We can read about Dickens or anything by Dickens. > We're going to go see A > Christmas Carol in December. As is often the case with me, I find his life even more interesting than his works. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 15:10:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DKAiHB006543 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:10:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B0CCE1E60128; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:09:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0177A1E6000A for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:09:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0019FF42@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:03:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13752052 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:03:02 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DK30b04422 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:03:01 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9DK2uBh013382 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:02:57 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001801c391c6$0ffd0c60$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Visit to India Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:10:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h9DKAiHB006543 I am excited for my daughter Sara. She is going to India next month. Will be a guest of friends in Madras and will also travel out to Kerrala and Delhi. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 15:14:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DKEVHB006616 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:14:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 007951E60128; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:13:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28FDF1E6000A for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:13:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009FFCE2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:06:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13752311 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:06:49 -0400 Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (imo-r05.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DK6mb05115 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:06:48 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.bc.3ebb8437 (4459) for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:04:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:04:22 EDT Subject: Re: Fake Letters To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/12/2003 5:40:38 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >This is pretty slimy, imho: > >http://www.theolympian.com/home/news/20031011/frontpage/121390.shtml > I agree, Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 15:15:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DKFwHB006656 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:15:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9B73A1E60153; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:15:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF63D1E60128 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:15:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0019FF7D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:08:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13752420 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:08:15 -0400 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DK8Eb05356 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:08:14 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.4a.236606a6 (4459) for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:06:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <4a.236606a6.2cbc5fc0@aol.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:06:24 EDT Subject: Re: Guardian/Observer: 100 Greatest Novels of All Time To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/12/2003 1:53:50 PM, stevie@MULTINIX.COM writes: >= Hey, wait, there's nothing on there by Stephen King ! >= > >You're not serious, right? > Of course she's serious. Unforgivable oversight! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 15:19:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DKJ4HB006705 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:19:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1149F1E60128; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:18:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C8821E6000A for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:18:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FFD01@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:11:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13752683 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:11:22 -0400 Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com (web20502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9DKBJb05866 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:11:20 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:11:18 PDT Message-ID: <20031013201118.33902.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:11:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Visit to India To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <001801c391c6$0ffd0c60$facadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > I am excited for my daughter Sara. She is going to > India next month. Will be a guest of friends in > Madras and will also travel out to > Kerrala and Delhi. > > - D. M. The friends are residents in Madras? How long will Sara stay? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 15:21:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DKLYHB006770 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:21:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 16DD11E60128; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:20:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DB181E6000A for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:20:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.009FFD11@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:13:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13752842 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:13:52 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DKDqb06304 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:13:52 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.95]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031013201356.XKR1826.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:13:56 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8B0774.D16EA775@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:13:40 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Meals?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Does this really say MEALS? I thought they were a thing of the past in coach, which is what this is since I no longer have and thus no longer get the free first-class. > Your trip has been adjusted to the itinerary below due to a change in our > schedules. ... > Depart : TUPELO (TUP) MS 25DEC at 1110A > Arrive : MEMPHIS (MEM) TN at 1150A > Class : W > Seat : 02A > Status : OK > Meal : > > Depart : MEMPHIS (MEM) TN 25DEC at 100P > Arrive : LAGUARDIA (LGA) NY at 419P > Class : W > Seat : 11C > Status : OK > Meal : MEAL <---------------------------- > > Depart : LAGUARDIA (LGA) NY 29DEC at 1005A > Arrive : MEMPHIS (MEM) TN at 1203P > Class : W > Seat : 17C > Status : OK > Meal : MEAL <---------------------------- > > Depart : MEMPHIS (MEM) TN 29DEC at 1255P > Arrive : TUPELO (TUP) MS at 140P > Class : W > Seat : 02A > Status : OK > Meal : -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 15:27:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DKRAHB006853 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:27:10 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DE7081E60071; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:26:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 568801E6006C for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:26:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0019FFD8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:19:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13753490 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:19:28 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DKJRb07570 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:19:28 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9DKJPBh021667 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:19:26 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000801c391c8$5cf2ab40$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031013201118.33902.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: Visit to India Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:27:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > --- Doris Markland wrote: > > I am excited for my daughter Sara. She is going to > > India next month. Will be a guest of friends in > > Madras and will also travel out to > > Kerrala and Delhi. > > > > - D. M. > > The friends are residents in Madras? How long will > Sara stay? Yes. Her friend lives in Texas now (having been a chosen bride who came here to marry and is happily married with 2 children) but is going home to Madras to visit family. Sara has met and entertained her family on their visits to Texas, and they wish to entertain her in return. I have a feeling they will do it royally. Unfortunately Sara will be there only two weeks. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 15:37:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DKbsHB007120 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:37:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2FF741E6015F; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:37:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 991421E6006C for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:37:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001A005D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:30:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13754543 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:30:13 -0400 Received: from web20503.mail.yahoo.com (web20503.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.138]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9DKUCb09798 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:30:12 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:29:58 PDT Message-ID: <20031013202958.50969.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:29:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Meals?? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F8B0774.D16EA775@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Does this really say MEALS? > -- Natalie It certainly looks like two meals, but I'll bet you won't feel the need to object to the portions being too large. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 15:40:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DKeaHB007144 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:40:36 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 94DBA1E6015F; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:39:42 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AF8E1E6006C for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:39:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.009FFDFD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:32:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13754839 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:32:55 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DKWsb10418 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:32:54 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.74.122]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HMPQ5A00.E5I for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:27:10 -0700 Message-ID: <3F8B0EA2.4ED53384@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:44:18 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Meals?? References: <3F8B0774.D16EA775@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Does this really say MEALS? I'm assuming you're on NatalieWest Airlines, as always. > Now Available! On your flight, meals will be available for purchase in the Main Cabin subject to > availability. Morning flights include a continental breakfast of assorted breads and rolls, fresh fruit and > juice. Afternoon and evening flights feature a cold gourmet sandwich, side salad, fresh fruit, cookies > and bottled water. Prices range from $5 to $10. Receipts are available upon request. Ask your flight > attendant for more details. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 15:42:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DKgKHB007181 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:42:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 645031E6008C; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:41:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11FF71E6006B for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:41:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001A0082@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:34:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13755012 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:34:38 -0400 Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com (web20502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9DKYbb10724 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:34:38 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:34:37 PDT Message-ID: <20031013203437.41797.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:34:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Visit to India To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <000801c391c8$5cf2ab40$facadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wow, when all your children come home, the stories you will hear! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 16:13:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DLDUHB007743 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:13:30 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 44E891E60164; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:12:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 172301E60162 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:12:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.009FFFCA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:05:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13758643 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:05:48 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DL5mb16534 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:05:48 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A99t9-0004j0-CV for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:05:59 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031013140111.03c0b508@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:03:11 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Meals?? In-Reply-To: <3F8B0774.D16EA775@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, >Does this really say MEALS? I've been getting meals on my transcontinental HotWire coach flights (most recently on UA). Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 16:26:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DLQMHB008084 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:26:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3CD781E60164; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:25:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E387F1E60162 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:25:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001A0258@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:18:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13759582 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:18:39 -0400 Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DLIdb18501 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:18:39 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HMP002UUSJ3LH@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:18:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.76] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:15:09 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:15:09 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Angel Dog To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <10ad271081b6.1081b610ad27@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > The one you take home always turns out best, anyway. > Part of me wants another dog - the smart part tells me > it's a pain in the begonia, for where I am in life at present. Oh yes. I definitely got The Best One. Here he is: http://marieascher.fotopic.net/show_collection.php?id=60536 Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 16:32:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DLWTHB008289 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:32:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 07EB11E6008E; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:31:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB7CE1E6006E for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:31:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0002F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:24:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13759943 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:24:48 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DLOmb19310 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:24:48 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.95]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031013212442.GJAO1828.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:24:42 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8B181A.B5570B0C@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:24:42 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A rant References: <200310131356.h9DDuFG06125@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >friends with the parents of the bride and with the bride herself, but > >iirc he said that her parents didn't go -- that there was some family > >feuding going on re her chosen lifestyle and marriage partner. > > They no doubt had a sense that he would one day lose perspective and become > an affluent hack. Jerry and Whatshername, my uncle's friend, got divorced at some point. I think she might have returned to the fold of her family's upper-classed lifestyle. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 16:42:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DLgCHB008545 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:42:12 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 421AF1E600A2; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:41:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 108701E6008E for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:41:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A00081@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:34:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13760453 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:34:24 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DLYNb20375 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:34:23 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.95]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031013213418.GNZD1828.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:34:18 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8B1A5B.14E5551A@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:34:19 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: <3F89E65A.3ED09700@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031013080825.02333be0@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > > Blog post with some more details: . The only extra details seem to be his speculations before finally finding the article that told the story and included comments from soldiers and parents -- the one I posted the url for yesterday. On second thought, I guess he did include some more details, like more of the names. > I wouldn't be surprised if there were originally a good motive in here > somewhere, but it was a pretty dim-witted stunt. Yes. It's one thing to sign form letters being sent to Congresspeople, etc. That's a common occurrence. The recipients no doubt realize they're form letters, and it wouldn't really matter anyway since all they're doing is tallying opinions in the mail about whatever the upcoming vote is on. I see that as a very different thing from letters published in newspapers describing what are claimed to be one's own experiences. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 16:42:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DLgHHB008555 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:42:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CAA4A1E6008E; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:41:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CA691E60074 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:41:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A00063@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:34:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13760460 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:34:36 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DLYZb20399 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:34:36 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9DLYYW1018952 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:34:34 -0700 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9DLYXWq018936; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:34:34 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031013143204.00a7a800@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:32:20 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Meals?? In-Reply-To: <20031013202958.50969.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> References: <3F8B0774.D16EA775@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:29 PM 10/13/2003 -0700, Lynne Weber wrote: > > Does this really say MEALS? > -- Natalie > >It certainly looks like two meals, but I'll bet you >won't feel the need to object to the portions being >too large. No meals on my flights to Mexico. I'm packing. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 16:46:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DLkgHB008631 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:46:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D7F191E600A0; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:45:48 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A52E71E6008E for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:45:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A00083@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:39:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13760708 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:39:01 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DLd0b21042 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:39:00 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.95]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031013213855.GQIZ1828.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:38:55 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8B1B70.F63C5C7C@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:38:56 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: <20031013153537.97480.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > The fact that the other servicemen did know, agree > with the content, and sign the letters, legally takes > the monkey off the backs of the "management". That was clear in the original story (i.e., in the one I posted the url for). I thought that when you mentioned the legality earlier, you were talking about just that one who claimed to know nothing about the letter that was published over his name. > "Dim-witted" is a kindness, in this case. The > personnel who put this little skit in motion obviously > could not see beyond their noses - a dumb trick that > redounded to their detriment. It was just plain > stoopid. Then again, how many people read those letters in the various newspapers and will probably never know that their hadn't written them? I haven't checked news since very early this morning. At that time there was nothing about the scam in the mainstream media. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 16:56:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DLu8HB008823 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:56:08 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2EA401E600CD; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:55:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0096A1E600A0 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:55:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001A02F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:48:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13761160 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:48:26 -0400 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9DLmQb22002 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:48:26 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:48:25 PDT Message-ID: <20031013214825.9012.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:48:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Fake Letters To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F8B1A5B.14E5551A@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Yes. It's one thing to sign form letters being sent > to Congresspeople, > etc. That's a common occurrence. The recipients no > doubt realize > they're form letters, and it wouldn't really matter > anyway since all > they're doing is tallying opinions in the mail about > whatever the > upcoming vote is on. I see that as a very different > thing from letters > published in newspapers describing what are claimed > to be one's own > experiences. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) The most stoopid part of all was sending these letters to the hometown newspapers. Did they think family and friends would not bring the letters to the attention of their guys in the service in Iraq? If you're going to play tricks, make sure you've covered your tracks, I would think. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 16:58:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DLw3HB008875 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:58:03 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3C0D71E60164; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:57:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A1DD1E600CD for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:57:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001A0309@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:50:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13761328 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:50:21 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DLoLb22316 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:50:21 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.95]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031013215015.BXPW14434.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:50:15 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8B1E18.2152ED1B@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:50:16 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Angel Dog References: <175b84173735.173735175b84@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: [a great description!] I take it from your mention of the lots of walking and exploring that you must have taken today off from work. That was my first thought when I started reading, thinking about how Sunday was perhaps not the best day for getting him since you'd have to go off and leave him the next morning. He sounds wonderful! I'm sure others will advise on the crating situation. I have no knowledge on that subject, having never had a crated dog. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 16:59:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DLxBHB008904 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:59:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 63EDF1E600CD; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:58:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 348EA1E600A0 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:58:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001A0303@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:51:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13761370 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:51:29 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DLpTb22416 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:51:29 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.95]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031013215124.BYFG14434.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:51:24 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8B1E5D.B6298EE@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:51:25 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fotopic References: <197851197efa.197efa197851@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > > >sites, I know where to find them.) The pictures I put on fotopic.net > > >were my Acadiafest pictures. > > http://maynor.fotopic.net/ Thank you. I actually did find them last night by going to www.fotopic.net and searching for "acadiafest." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 17:04:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DM49HB009054 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:04:09 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 468A91E60164; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:03:15 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D6C1E600CD for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:03:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A000D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:56:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13761661 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:56:27 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DLuRb23048 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:56:27 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.95]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031013215618.CAHW14434.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:56:18 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8B1F84.C0802D77@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:56:20 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fotopic References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > > > http://maynor.fotopic.net/ > > > > I'm planning on putting my Laszlo pics there when I get them > > developed because I've been too lazy to set up my own site. > > Not at maynor.fotopic.net, but marieascher.fotopic.net...of course. I kind of figured that. Laszlo would of course be welcome at maynor.fotopic.net. Dogs are welcome in any facet of my life -- which is why, as I think I've mentioned before, I find it funny that I'm getting extra money every month because the person managing my rental house requires an extra $50 a month in rent from people with pets. I would be sad if there was not a pet living there. I take the money, of course, but I would certainly not have that requirement if I were in charge of the renting. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 17:05:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DM59HB009078 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:05:09 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DEB7F1E600CD; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:04:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACFB91E600A0 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:04:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A000F7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:57:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13761705 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:57:27 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DLvRb23189 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:57:27 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.95]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031013215721.CAXQ14434.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:57:21 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8B1FC3.4C1DC3F8@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:57:23 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Angel Dog References: <19d29219d5ac.19d5ac19d292@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > > > Did you choose the > > wrinkledy one? > > Oh, I didn't answer this. No. This is the other candidate. He's plenty wrinkly himself, but not like the other one. That guy went to live in Vermont where he's going to be a super hunter. I hope I see him again. You could arrange a play-date for the brothers. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 17:05:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DM5xHB009103 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:05:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 195631E600CD; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:05:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E06881E600A0 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:05:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A000DE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:58:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13761762 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:58:17 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DLwHb23277 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:58:17 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.95]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031013215812.CBOU14434.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:58:12 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8B1FF5.A8292EF0@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:58:13 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Kinship Terms References: <3F8879F8.C724FDD7@maynor.net> <5.1.1.5.2.20031013112342.00a5a8d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > We (Sandra and I) read it for our book club meeting last month. It was good. Why has Sandra deserted us? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 17:12:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DMCFHB009251 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:12:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 753DA1E600D0; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:11:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46E961E600CD for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:11:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A00133@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:04:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13762386 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:04:33 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DM4Xb24253 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:04:33 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9DM4UeO030240; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:04:30 -0700 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9DM4Ta2030212; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:04:29 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031013150129.00a57860@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:02:15 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Kinship Terms In-Reply-To: <3F8B1FF5.A8292EF0@maynor.net> References: <3F8879F8.C724FDD7@maynor.net> <5.1.1.5.2.20031013112342.00a5a8d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:58 PM 10/13/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Betty Clark wrote: > > > We (Sandra and I) read it for our book club meeting last month. It was > good. > >Why has Sandra deserted us? I don't know. Were you mean to her? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 17:13:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DMDvHB009273 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:13:57 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 37FC41E600D0; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:13:03 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05F9F1E600CD for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:13:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0014F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:06:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13762516 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:06:15 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DM6Fb24527 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:06:15 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.95]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031013220610.CFGY14434.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:06:10 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8B21D3.B2EBC1CE@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:06:11 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Kinship Terms References: <20031013183131.27881.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > > We (Sandra and I) read it for our book club meeting > > last month. It was good. > > Is it about convoluted families, like Natalie's? > Weren't you scheduled to read something by Dickens in > the near future? If so, which one? When I first read Espen's mention of Middlesex, I must admit that Middlemarch first hopped into my head. Re my convoluted family, I have been tempted many times to open the book you sent me, but I still haven't. I am reading nothing now except occasional pages from boring books of the kind that one reads a few pages of from time to time -- nothing, that is, except e-mail, work-required stuff, and online and print news. I am looking forward to Thanksgiving holidays, during which time I am going to allow myself to open books. And still on the subject of my convoluted family, I did finally get around to writing a short sketch of my bastard line yesterday for the Wheeler Family Association newsletter. I think the editor had wanted a long, detailed chart, but I realized that was too big a project for right now, so I wrote a relatively short description. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 17:14:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DMEMHB009290 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:14:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 28F4A1E600CD; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:13:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF9841E600A0 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:13:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001A0373@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:06:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13762545 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:06:40 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DM6eb24597 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:06:40 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-33.gwi.net [216.195.150.33]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9DM6cYp080446 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:06:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031013180621.00bba9f0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:06:48 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Kinship Terms In-Reply-To: <3F8B1FF5.A8292EF0@maynor.net> References: <3F8879F8.C724FDD7@maynor.net> <5.1.1.5.2.20031013112342.00a5a8d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > We (Sandra and I) read it for our book club meeting last month. It was > good. > >Why has Sandra deserted us? > -- Natalie Where has Tushar gone? Did something happen while I was in Wisconsin? bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 17:16:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DMGwHB009388 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:16:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 864DB1E600CD; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:16:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 577481E600A0 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:16:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0014B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:09:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13762754 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:09:17 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DM9Gb24938 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:09:16 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.95]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031013220911.CGLL14434.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:09:11 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8B2288.4F12F042@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:09:12 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Kinship Terms References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031013112342.00a5a8d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.1.5.2.20031013114840.00a5cb20@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > We can read about Dickens or anything by Dickens. We're going to go see A > Christmas Carol in December. I'm thinking I once wrote a paper about Dickens. No, wait -- what I'm thinking of was a paper contrasting Sir Walter Scott and Jane Austen. Not Dickens. But I did buy a red-covered copy of A Christmas Carol in an old and quaint part of London one December. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 17:18:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DMIpHB009421 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:18:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 210871E600D0; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:17:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E24661E600CD for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:17:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001A03A4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:11:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13762948 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:11:09 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DMB9b25321 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:11:09 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.95]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031013221103.CHFU14434.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:11:03 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8B22F9.3B63E472@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:11:05 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Kinship Terms References: <20031013185609.86979.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > > We can read about Dickens or anything by Dickens. > > We're going to go see A > > Christmas Carol in December. > > As is often the case with me, I find his life even > more interesting than his works. I forgot to add in what I just wrote that the point was that if I had indeed written a paper on Dickens, BB could have read my paper. :-) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 17:21:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DMLpHB009530 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:21:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5A8531E600A0; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:20:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D3951E60065 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:20:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A00183@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:14:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13763146 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:14:09 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DME9b25790 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:14:09 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.95]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031013221404.CINV14434.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:14:04 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8B23AD.1955237D@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:14:05 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Guardian/Observer: 100 Greatest Novels of All Time References: <4a.236606a6.2cbc5fc0@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > >= Hey, wait, there's nothing on there by Stephen King ! > > > >You're not serious, right? > > > Of course she's serious. Unforgivable oversight! Taped on the mailroom door today was a diatribe by Harold Bloom about King's having won his recent award and about the "dumbing down of America." He also attacked the Harry Potter books. Sounded like an angry old man, I must say. I didn't notice what it was copied from -- as in where it was published. It is no doubt findable on the web. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 17:23:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DMNnHB009575 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:23:49 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2897D1E600A0; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:22:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE18A1E60065 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:22:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A00183@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:16:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13763296 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:16:07 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DMG7b26078 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:16:07 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.95]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031013221602.CJIQ14434.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:16:02 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8B2423.D7AF911E@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:16:03 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Guardian/Observer: 100 Greatest Novels of All Time References: <4a.236606a6.2cbc5fc0@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Here's the Bloom thing: http://tinyurl.com/oi69 -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 17:27:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DMRiHB009653 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:27:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 03D311E600A0; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:26:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5FCF1E60065 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:26:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A00195@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:20:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13763504 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:20:02 -0400 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9DMK1b26532 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:20:02 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:20:00 PDT Message-ID: <20031013222000.100.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:20:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Angel Dog To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <10ad271081b6.1081b610ad27@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Oh yes. I definitely got The Best One. Here he is: > > http://marieascher.fotopic.net/show_collection.php?id=60536 > > Marie Help, I'm melting! Exposure to puppy pictures. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 17:31:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DMVnHB009816 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:31:49 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2209E1E600A0; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:30:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E40EA1E60065 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:30:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A001B0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:24:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13763772 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:24:07 -0400 Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DMO7b27135 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:24:07 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HMP00CU3VJ42H@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:23:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.135] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:19:58 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:19:58 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Angel Dog To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <1ab02b1ab42d.1ab42d1ab02b@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I take it from your mention of the lots of walking and exploring that > you must have taken today off from work. I took the whole week off. I'll have some work things I'll have to do, but mostly it's Laszlo week. > He sounds wonderful! I'm sure others will advise on the crating > situation. I have no knowledge on that subject, having never had a > crated dog. I went to the WalMart one-hour photo to get those pictures developed and crated him while I was gone. He was freaking out when I got back. I want to make it a more pleasant thing for him, so I just fed him his dinner in there. Since then he's wandered in and out a couple of times. That's a step in the right direction. His face in some of those pictures reminds me of some Bernard pictures I've seen. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 17:36:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DMafHB009915 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:36:41 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5B7EF1E600A0; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:35:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E1671E60065 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:35:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A001F6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:28:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13764150 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:28:59 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DMSxb27942 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:28:59 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9DMSweO030490 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:28:58 -0700 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9DMSva2030449 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:28:58 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031013152623.00a45330@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:26:44 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Kinship Terms In-Reply-To: <3F8B22F9.3B63E472@maynor.net> References: <20031013185609.86979.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:11 PM 10/13/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Lynne Weber wrote: > > > > > We can read about Dickens or anything by Dickens. > > > We're going to go see A > > > Christmas Carol in December. > > > > As is often the case with me, I find his life even > > more interesting than his works. > >I forgot to add in what I just wrote that the point was that if I had >indeed written a paper on Dickens, BB could have read my paper. :-) Please send it immediately. I had to take my library book back. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 17:39:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DMdCHB010039 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:39:12 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9DD151E600D0; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:37:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FB0C1E600A0 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:37:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A001F1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:30:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13764291 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:30:35 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DMUUb28236 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:30:30 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.95]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031013223025.CPGL14434.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:30:25 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8B2782.63EC6ACA@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:30:26 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Visit to India References: <001801c391c6$0ffd0c60$facadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > I am excited for my daughter Sara. She is going to India next month. Will be a guest of friends in Madras and will also travel out to > Kerrala and Delhi. That sounds great! India has long been on my list of places I'd like to visit, though my traveling urges keep diminishing -- as in I just don't feel highly motivated. I'm not sure why. We should have a fest in India sometime. Rashmi's and Tushar's parents can host. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 17:40:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DMeXHB010080 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:40:33 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0A9B61E600EF; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:39:39 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0F7C1E60164 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:39:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A001F8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:32:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13764513 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:32:51 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DMWpb28629 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:32:51 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.95]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031013223246.CQDU14434.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:32:46 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8B280F.206426B@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:32:47 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Visit to India References: <20031013201118.33902.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> <000801c391c8$5cf2ab40$facadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > Unfortunately Sara will be there only two > weeks. I think that sounds like an ideal length of time. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 17:41:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DMfpHB010092 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:41:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4F7DA1E60164; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:40:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21FAD1E600EF for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:40:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001A044D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:34:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13764568 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:34:04 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DMY4b28759 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:34:04 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.95]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031013223359.CQRN14434.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:33:59 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8B2858.9FD517BF@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:34:00 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Meals?? References: <20031013202958.50969.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > > Does this really say MEALS? > -- Natalie > > It certainly looks like two meals, but I'll bet you > won't feel the need to object to the portions being > too large. I don't really care about large portions. I'm just happy that I won't have to try to grab something to eat in the Memphis airport or carry nabs and stuff in my purse. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 17:42:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DMgeHB010101 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:42:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8F7011E60164; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:41:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F4561E600EF for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:41:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A00200@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:34:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13764600 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:34:59 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DMYwb28822 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:34:58 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.95]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031013223453.CRCI14434.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:34:53 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8B288E.59294098@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:34:54 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Visit to India References: <20031013203437.41797.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > Wow, when all your children come home, the stories > you will hear! When were all of you last together? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 17:47:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DMlRHB010182 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:47:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DEC0F1E60164; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:46:32 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD1411E600EF for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:46:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001A044D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:39:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13764758 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:39:45 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DMdjb29227 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:39:45 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9DMdgBh013273 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:39:43 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <003501c391db$f4cac2a0$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031013203437.41797.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> <3F8B288E.59294098@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Visit to India Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:47:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Lynne Weber wrote: > > > > Wow, when all your children come home, the stories > > you will hear! > > When were all of you last together? > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Christmas 2002 in Texas. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 17:50:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DMooHB010263 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:50:50 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B788E1E60164; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:49:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829E71E600EF for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:49:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0021D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:43:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13764924 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:43:08 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DMh7b29653 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:43:07 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9DMh3Bh018996 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:43:06 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000801c391dc$6cf90e80$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Headline-itis Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:50:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h9DMooHB010263 Suffering again from my old malady as I read the headline going across the top of my screen: Dancing Liberians Welcome New Leader . . . And you might know I am reading it as dancing librarians, and am struggling with that mental image. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 17:51:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DMp5HB010271 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:51:05 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 36DDD1E600EF; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:50:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 065611E60072 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:50:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001A045C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:43:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13764930 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:43:23 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DMhNb29666 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:43:23 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.95]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031013224318.CUGY14434.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:43:18 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8B2A87.BD281B08@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:43:19 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Meals?? References: <3F8B0774.D16EA775@maynor.net> <3F8B0EA2.4ED53384@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > I'm assuming you're on NatalieWest Airlines, as always. Yes. It's on ff miles. I probably shouldn't have cashed in my Delta ff miles on magazines since now Delta is the only airline that serves my airport -- or rather Delta's little commuter partner. Delta and NW are in some kind of partnership, but I don't know yet how it works. It seemed simpler just to go on and drive to Tupelo rather than screwing around trying to figure out the Delta-NW connection. Did I mention that the parking at the Tupelo sounds wonderfully small-townish? There's no fence or booth or ticket-dispenser. You just park in an open parking lot, and when you get back, you find a tally of the number of days you've been there stuck on your windshield with an address of where to mail the money. > > Now Available! On your flight, meals will be available for purchase in the Main Cabin subject to > > availability. Morning flights include a continental breakfast of assorted breads and rolls, fresh fruit and > > juice. Afternoon and evening flights feature a cold gourmet sandwich, side salad, fresh fruit, cookies > > and bottled water. Prices range from $5 to $10. Receipts are available upon request. Ask your flight > > attendant for more details. What is this? I just noticed the >>. I don't mind at all paying for food on a plane. It's certainly easier than having to race around in airports to find something to eat. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 17:51:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DMpUHB010284 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:51:30 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 866DB1E600EF; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:50:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 556F71E6016B for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:50:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0023E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:43:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13764942 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:43:48 -0400 Received: from web20509.mail.yahoo.com (web20509.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.144]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9DMhmb29688 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:43:48 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20509.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:43:47 PDT Message-ID: <20031013224348.1131.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:43:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Kinship Terms To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031013180621.00bba9f0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Where has Tushar gone? Did something happen while I > was in Wisconsin? > > > bonnie Well, I certainly don't know. But all those cracks about sex-obsessed traps were empty, idle promises. Maybe he's in the company of Ms. Kay. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 17:56:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DMu1HB010381 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:56:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A97B71E6016B; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:55:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79A001E600EF for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:55:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A00258@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:48:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13765194 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:48:19 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DMmIb30315 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:48:18 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.95]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031013224813.CWAU14434.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:48:13 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8B2BAE.5A009A8F@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:48:14 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Angel Dog References: <10ad271081b6.1081b610ad27@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > http://marieascher.fotopic.net/show_collection.php?id=60536 He is absolutely gorgeous!!! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 18:00:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DN0iHB010488 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:00:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CBD861E600EF; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:59:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C0D91E60072 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:59:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A0024E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:53:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13765308 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:53:02 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DMr1b30670 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:53:01 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.95]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031013225256.CXVM14434.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:52:56 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8B2CC9.DEBD0D60@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:52:57 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Meals?? References: <3F8B0774.D16EA775@maynor.net> <5.1.1.5.2.20031013143204.00a7a800@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > No meals on my flights to Mexico. I'm packing. You are always packing and going! Don't those Berkeley students need you there to radiate them? Did I mention that some good friends of mine will be living part-time in Berkeley after retiring from here next summer? They're going to divide their time between some land they bought in rural New Mexico and the house in Berkeley that they have kept since being in grad school there many years ago. They've been renting the Berkeley house out but will reclaim it as their living quarters soon. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 18:02:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DN2RHB010514 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:02:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ACDFF1E600EF; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:01:32 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79D291E60072 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:01:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A00271@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:54:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13765748 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:54:45 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DMsib31076 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:54:44 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.95]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031013225439.CYOG14434.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:54:39 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8B2D30.94BCB44@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:54:40 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: <20031013214825.9012.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > The most stoopid part of all was sending these letters > to the hometown newspapers. Did they think family and > friends would not bring the letters to the attention > of their guys in the service in Iraq? But I thought that in all but one case the soldiers had signed the letter -- iow, had approved the sending of it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 18:04:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DN4aHB010550 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:04:36 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9F4571E6016B; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:03:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 719341E600EF for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:03:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0027E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:56:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13765877 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:56:54 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DMurb31414 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:56:53 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.95]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031013225648.CZJE14434.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:56:48 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8B2DB1.FF29FA02@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:56:49 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Kinship Terms References: <3F8879F8.C724FDD7@maynor.net> <5.1.1.5.2.20031013112342.00a5a8d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.1.5.2.20031013150129.00a57860@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > >Why has Sandra deserted us? > > I don't know. Were you mean to her? I don't think so. I have no memory of being mean to Sandra, who has always struck me as an interesting person. I feel sure that she and I have been on different sides in some list debates, but I have no memory of . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 18:07:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DN78HB010631 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:07:08 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 990101E6016B; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:06:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6758E1E600EF for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:06:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001A04BF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:59:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13765996 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:59:26 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DMxPb31770 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:59:25 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.95]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031013225920.DAGV14434.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:59:20 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8B2E49.2B7F879D@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:59:21 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Kinship Terms References: <3F8879F8.C724FDD7@maynor.net> <5.1.1.5.2.20031013112342.00a5a8d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031013180621.00bba9f0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Where has Tushar gone? Did something happen while I was in Wisconsin? Tushar is like that. He vanishes for (usually brief) periods. He did vanish for that extended period a few years ago, but usually his vanishings don't last all that long. If he doesn't come back soon, we should worry -- like the time we went berserk worrying that he had been kidnapped in New York. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 18:08:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DN81HB010680 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:08:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B361E1E60177; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:07:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 844DB1E60176 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:07:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0029B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:00:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13766161 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:00:19 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DN0Ib31998 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:00:18 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.95]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031013230013.DAQH14434.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:00:13 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8B2E7E.ACEDE183@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:00:14 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Angel Dog References: <20031013222000.100.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > http://marieascher.fotopic.net/show_collection.php?id=60536 > > > > Marie > > Help, I'm melting! Exposure to puppy pictures. And such a gorgeous one. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 18:15:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DNF3HB010979 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:15:03 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E6A8D1E60176; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:14:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B785B1E6016D for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:14:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A002E0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:07:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13766585 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:07:21 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DN7Lb00516 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:07:21 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.95]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031013230715.DDFY14434.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:07:15 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8B3025.71190D08@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:07:17 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Angel Dog References: <1ab02b1ab42d.1ab42d1ab02b@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > I took the whole week off. I'll have some work things I'll have to do, but mostly it's Laszlo week. Excellent! I think it really is important to try to tie dog-arrivals with times when one can stay home. >pleasant thing for him, so I just fed him his dinner in there. Since then he's wandered in and out a couple of times. That's a step in the right direction. That sounds promising. > His face in some of those pictures reminds me of some Bernard pictures I've seen. It reminded me of Spencer. Spencer would be delighted to hear that I thought of him rather than Bernard. He knows that he lives in Bernard's shadow. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 18:17:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DNHHHB011040 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:17:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E82411E60177; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:16:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF0DC1E60176 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:16:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001A0503@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:09:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13766677 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:09:35 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DN9Zb00734 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:09:35 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.95]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031013230929.DDZN14434.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:09:29 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8B30AA.534423CB@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:09:30 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Kinship Terms References: <20031013185609.86979.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> <5.1.1.5.2.20031013152623.00a45330@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > >I forgot to add in what I just wrote that the point was that if I had > >indeed written a paper on Dickens, BB could have read my paper. :-) > > Please send it immediately. I had to take my library book back. Pay attention. I said that I didn't write a Dickens paper. Or at least not one that I remember. Was your library book about Dickens? If you've had to take it back, does this mean you are going to have to read Dickens himself? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 18:18:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DNIHHB011054 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:18:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DC5D81E60176; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:17:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD78B1E6016D for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:17:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A002D7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:10:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13766778 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:10:35 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DNAZb00949 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:10:35 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.95]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031013231029.DEJA14434.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:10:29 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8B30E6.687B36C2@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:10:30 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Visit to India References: <20031013203437.41797.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> <3F8B288E.59294098@maynor.net> <003501c391db$f4cac2a0$facadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > When were all of you last together? > > Christmas 2002 in Texas. Not bad. In fact, quite good. What does Christmas 2003 promise, or do you know yet? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 18:20:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DNKSHB011091 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:20:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A83631E60176; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:19:33 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 798B41E6016D for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:19:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A002DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:12:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13766859 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:12:46 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DNCjb01259 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:12:45 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.95]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031013231240.DFEL14434.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:12:40 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8B3169.535A6977@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:12:41 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Headline-itis References: <000801c391dc$6cf90e80$facadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > And you might know I am reading it as > dancing librarians, and am struggling with > that mental image. You must work on your mental imagery! Picture Boo and JMW going round and round and round in a polka with AnnBork. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 18:29:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DNTJHB011266 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:29:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0B2501E60177; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:28:25 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 923DC1E600FA for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:28:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A00302@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:21:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13767284 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:21:37 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DNLab02600 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:21:36 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.95]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031013232131.DIMJ14434.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:21:31 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8B337C.99C9F46@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:21:32 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: <20031013153537.97480.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> <3F8B1B70.F63C5C7C@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Then again, how many people read those letters in the various newspapers > and will probably never know that their hadn't written > them? I haven't checked news since very early this morning. At that > time there was nothing about the scam in the mainstream media. I turned on CBS news while ago and heard Dan Rather mention it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 18:58:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9DNwDHB011991 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:58:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BF5EF1E600FA; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:57:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 917351E600B8 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:57:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001A05E6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:50:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13768810 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:50:31 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DNoUb06217 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:50:30 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9DNoRBh021133 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:50:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000801c391e5$d6ecfe60$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031013203437.41797.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> <3F8B288E.59294098@maynor.net> <003501c391db$f4cac2a0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8B30E6.687B36C2@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Visit to India Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:58:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Doris Markland wrote: > > > > When were all of you last together? > > > > Christmas 2002 in Texas. > > Not bad. In fact, quite good. What does Christmas 2003 promise, or do > you know yet? > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I have no idea. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 19:04:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9E04tHB012205 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:04:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A9E041E600F1; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:04:00 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C05E1E600E5 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:04:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A003C3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:57:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13769210 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:57:13 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DNvCb07067 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:57:12 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-33.gwi.net [216.195.150.33]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9DNvAYp097610 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:57:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031013195445.00bbdf60@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:57:21 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Guardian/Observer: 100 Greatest Novels of All Time In-Reply-To: <3F8B23AD.1955237D@maynor.net> References: <4a.236606a6.2cbc5fc0@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Taped on the mailroom door today was a diatribe by Harold Bloom about >King's having won his recent award and about the "dumbing down of >America." He also attacked the Harry Potter books. Sounded like an >angry old man, I must say. -- Natalie The column has already made the rounds of the Maine newspapers. King is laughing all the way to the bank. He and his whole family will be at the award ceremony. He was quoted as saying that it will be a wonderful time unless people boo or something. Then he corrected himself and said it would be a wonderful event even if people did boo. I've never seen a man who is so genuinely happy about having earned lots of money. He revels in it. He and his wife are also incredibly generous with the money. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 19:06:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9E06fHB012213 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:06:41 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7F6B21E600F1; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:05:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E1C21E600E5 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:05:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001A05F5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:58:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13769257 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:58:58 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DNwwb07207 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:58:58 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-33.gwi.net [216.195.150.33]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9DNwtYr097989; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:58:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031013195819.00b43690@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:58:55 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Headline-itis In-Reply-To: <3F8B3169.535A6977@maynor.net> References: <000801c391dc$6cf90e80$facadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:12 PM 10/13/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >You must work on your mental imagery! Picture Boo and JMW going round >and round and round in a polka with AnnBork. ...or the three of them in tutus, doing Swan Lake. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 19:10:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9E0AuHB012296 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:10:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8E1171E6017B; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:10:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BAB31E60178 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:10:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A003CE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:03:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13769471 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:03:13 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9E03Db07694 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:03:13 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-33.gwi.net [216.195.150.33]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9E03BQU043501 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:03:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031013195943.00bc2e08@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:03:20 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Meals?? In-Reply-To: <3F8B2A87.BD281B08@maynor.net> References: <3F8B0774.D16EA775@maynor.net> <3F8B0EA2.4ED53384@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I don't mind at all paying for >food on a plane. It's certainly easier than having to race around in >airports to find something to eat. -- Natalie When we flew to Wisconsin we didn't get fed on either flight and had a very short connection in Detroit: walked off of one plane, fast-walked through the tunnel to another terminal, and walked onto the next flight. Our first flight left Bangor at 4 p.m. We got to Green Bay at 8 p.m. (our time). We rented a car and drove North, arriving in Florence around midnight (our time). So we went eight hours without eating and we didn't die. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 19:42:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9E0gCHB012937 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:42:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CE02D1E60104; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:41:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AB541E600F0 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:41:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A00486@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:34:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13771171 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:34:30 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9E0YUb11584 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:34:30 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001A06B9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:34:29 -0400 Message-Id: <200310140034.h9E0YUb11584@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:34:29 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Kinship Terms To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:59:21 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >bonniev wrote: > >> Where has Tushar gone? Did something happen while I was in Wisconsin? > >Tushar is like that. He vanishes for (usually brief) periods. He did >vanish for that extended period a few years ago, but usually his >vanishings don't last all that long. If he doesn't come back soon, we >should worry -- like the time we went berserk worrying that he had been >kidnapped in New York. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) There is nothing so blandly sincere as pre-planning concern. I hope Tushar hasn't gone far away. I am still hoping to go polka-watching with him, Betty, Ann, and - who else was in on this? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 19:44:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9E0iQHB012971 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:44:26 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2D7801E60104; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:43:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1A3F1E600F0 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:43:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A004A2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:36:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13771255 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:36:05 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9E0a5b11740 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:36:05 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.95]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031014003559.NRLN1822.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:35:59 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8B44F1.395A8C05@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:36:01 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Electric Teevee Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I sometimes turn on my 5" b&w tv in this room and listen to CBS news, but tonight was the first time in a long time that I've turned on my bigger tv set and watched CNN. I didn't watch it all that long, but I was fascinated and appalled by what I saw. For one thing, I saw Ann Coulter for the first time. I've read about her and have read interviews with her, but I saw her actually sitting there talking tonight. She's incredible. Among other things, she said that "Saddam did not allow UN inspectors into Iraq." Her counterpart, a man who was really lame and whose name I didn't catch, said, "Yes, he did" and mentioned Hans Blix, but his mumblings were ignored. Ann just swung her long, blonde hair and smiled. No wonder the research we were discussing recently showed a strong correlation between tv-watching and misinformation. I am convinced that many viewers of that snippet I just watched are stupid^h^h^h^h^h have no other source of news and nodded their heads -- that no weapons inspectors were allowed in Iraq. Just before that I saw that Pentagon spokesperson who is often quoted -- Victoria Clark. Some of what she said sounded fine. But she played the typical Bushie trick of saying something about how now "Iraqi girls can go to school" -- long, long pause -- "without books written by Saddam." Don't tell me that her choice of "girls" and the long pause weren't intentional. They are sooooo like Bush's distortions of truth. At first I thought she was getting Iraq mixed up with Afghanistan, but then I concluded that she wasn't really that dumb -- that she wasn't getting them mixed up herself but that she figured the tv-viewers were likely to get them mixed up. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 19:46:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9E0k4HB013011 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:46:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B46051E60104; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:45:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 852C91E600F0 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:45:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A0049F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:38:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13771394 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:38:22 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9E0cLb11964 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:38:21 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.95]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031014003816.NSIZ1822.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:38:16 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8B4579.660B3380@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:38:17 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Guardian/Observer: 100 Greatest Novels of All Time References: <4a.236606a6.2cbc5fc0@aol.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031013195445.00bbdf60@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > The column has already made the rounds of the Maine newspapers. King is > laughing all the way to the bank. 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From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 20:23:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9E1NJHB013912 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:23:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 68C4B1E60101; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:22:24 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ADE31E60067 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:22:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A00527@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:15:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13772912 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:15:36 -0400 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9E1Fab15575 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:15:36 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:15:35 PDT Message-ID: <20031014011535.50710.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:15:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Fake Letters To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F8B2D30.94BCB44@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > But I thought that in all but one case the soldiers > had signed the > letter -- iow, had approved the sending of it. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) The father of one of the servicemen said his son didn't write in that style or fashion, so someone noticed. The signers may not have known where the letters were going. Indeed, if they had, wouldn't they have alerted their families and friends to the possibility of publication? >From the tone of the reports, the soldiers were as surprised as their families. It's stoopid that "someone" didn't realize everyone involved would compare notes. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 20:41:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9E1fCHB014399 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:41:12 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E0B3F1E6006A; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:40:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE4101E60039 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:40:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A0056F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:33:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13773604 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:33:29 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9E1XSb17142 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:33:28 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.95]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031014013323.HNKG1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:33:23 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8B5261.67A909C0@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:33:21 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: <20031014011535.50710.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > > But I thought that in all but one case the soldiers > > had signed the > > letter -- iow, had approved the sending of it. > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > The father of one of the servicemen > said his son didn't write in that style or fashion, so > someone noticed. The signers may not have known where > the letters were going. Indeed, if they had, wouldn't > they have alerted their families and friends to the > possibility of publication? I don't know that they would necessarily have alerted their families and friends. But they also might not have really understood what was going on -- and their "approval" might have been without full awareness of what they were approving. I gather that these were mainly whatever the right word is for military personnel -- "grunts"? What's a grunt? I've heard that term in relation to military stuff but am not really sure what that means. I'm thinking that these might have been soldiers who were not necessarily all that knowledgeable -- like people who joined the military because they couldn't get into college, people who had never read newspapers, etc. Some of them probably had no idea what a "Letter to the Editor" was. > >From the tone of the reports, the soldiers were as > surprised as their families. It's stoopid that > "someone" didn't realize everyone involved would > compare notes. No, it might have gone through unnoticed. If I read the accounts correctly, it was noticed because two of the form letters, with different signatures, were sent to the same newspaper. That was an unexpected snafu. Somehow I'm reminded of a story that I'm sure I've told here before about the identical papers accidentally discovered by two instructors many years ago. When the two students were called into the dept head's office, one of them said that she had been really worrying about the paper she had to write and had prayed for God to help her. Shortly after her prayer, she walked out into the hall in the dorm and found a paper in a trash can. She assumed that God had put it there for her. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 20:46:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9E1kMHB014517 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:46:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7A4E31E60101; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:45:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40BBA1E6006A for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:45:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A00586@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:38:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13773795 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:38:38 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9E1ccb17558 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:38:38 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.95]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031014013833.HPVR1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:38:33 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8B539A.D909C75E@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:38:34 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Re Goings-On Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Why in our talk of scary world events are we not talking about Israel-Syria? I find that mega-scary. The world may end not with a whimper but with a bang. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 20:50:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9E1oZHB014603 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:50:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C64171E60102; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:49:39 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92F9A1E60101 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:49:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A005B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:42:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13774105 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:42:52 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f62.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.62]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9E1gpb18168 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:42:51 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:42:46 -0700 Received: from 64.24.188.37 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 01:42:44 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.24.188.37] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Re Goings-On Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 01:42:44 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Oct 2003 01:42:46.0116 (UTC) FILETIME=[779A6240:01C391F4] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: >Why in our talk of scary world events are we not talking about >Israel-Syria? I find that mega-scary. The world may end not with a >whimper but with a bang. Bo-ring. zzzzzzzzzzzzzz! etc. _________________________________________________________________ Fretting that your Hotmail account may expire because you forgot to sign in enough? Get Hotmail Extra Storage today! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 21:02:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9E22mHB014880 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:02:48 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B22EF1E6011A; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:01:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DBA01E6010D for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:01:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001A0803@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:55:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13774526 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:55:04 -0400 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9E1seb19037 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:54:40 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:54:40 PDT Message-ID: <20031014015440.96370.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:54:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Re Goings-On To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Why in our talk of scary world events are we not > talking about > >Israel-Syria? I find that mega-scary. The world > may end not with a > >whimper but with a bang. > > Bo-ring. zzzzzzzzzzzzzz! etc. Seems that some stores of empathy ARE exhaustible. But yes, it is scary, as it is with the Turks, etc. Maybe it helps us to talk about it, maybe not. But there's not a lot we can DO about it. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 21:04:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9E24RHB014906 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:04:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D29A51E6010C; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:03:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A379E1E60101 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:03:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A005E6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:56:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13774581 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:56:44 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9E1uhb19146 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:56:43 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.95]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031014015638.JRCO1826.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:56:38 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8B57D7.DC41CFBF@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:56:39 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Re Goings-On References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: > Bo-ring. zzzzzzzzzzzzzz! etc. I am seriously comforted by your reaction because I consider you a wise person and because I had been seriously worrying about the situation. I'm not totally assured now that the world isn't on the verge of a Mighty Mess, but I do feel better -- good enough that I'm going to turn off the computer now and think about going to bed, even though it's stil thirty minutes away from my usual bedtime. It's been a long day. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 21:33:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9E2XAHB015388 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:33:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EF70A1E6011A; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:32:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD84A1E60113 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:32:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A00679@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 22:25:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13776021 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 22:25:27 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9E2PQb22015 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 22:25:26 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id CC8A42B8ED; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:25:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C029E2B8D5 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:25:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:25:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Headline-itis In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031013195819.00b43690@pop.gwi.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > >You must work on your mental imagery! Picture Boo and JMW going round > >and round and round in a polka with AnnBork. > ...or the three of them in tutus, doing Swan Lake. Couldn't find a picture of a threesome so this will have to do: http://www.getty.edu/art/collections/objects/oz49579.html Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 21:35:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9E2ZfHB015398 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:35:41 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D8C1E1E60121; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:34:45 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A75381E6011F for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:34:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001A08BA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 22:27:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13776139 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 22:27:58 -0400 Received: from ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9E2Rvb22261 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 22:27:57 -0400 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h9E2RtmN002106 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:27:57 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:28:09 -0500 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1356494226.20031013212809@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Note to Mem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Los Lonely Boys will be in Hawaii with Willie Nelson--I'm not sure when, though. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 21:43:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9E2hbHB015508 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:43:37 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B06681E60121; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:42:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 822BB1E6011F for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:42:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001A09F4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 22:35:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13776514 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 22:35:54 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9E2Zrb23011 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 22:35:53 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 27C5B2B8D5; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:35:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 709C32B900 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:35:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:35:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Note to Mem In-Reply-To: <1356494226.20031013212809@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen dear, is this a fly-by? Hope you stay, though it doesn't look like you'll have Tushar to kick around any more. Ann On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Karen Kay wrote: > Los Lonely Boys will be in Hawaii with Willie Nelson--I'm not sure > when, though. > > Karen > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 21:49:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9E2nEHB015711 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:49:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 47E4A1E60124; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:48:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 159421E60121 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:48:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0069D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 22:41:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13776676 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 22:41:30 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f26.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.26]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9E2fUb23712 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 22:41:30 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:41:24 -0700 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 02:41:24 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: lewis black Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 22:41:24 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Oct 2003 02:41:24.0898 (UTC) FILETIME=[A8F5E820:01C391FC] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU If you have questions for Mr. Black (most recently of the Daily Show), pass them along and I'll try to work them into my interview. Marty _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE computer virus scan online from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 21:51:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9E2p0HB015738 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:51:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E14A21E60124; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:50:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2B5A1E60069 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:50:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A006B7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 22:43:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13776789 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 22:43:17 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9E2hHb24178 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 22:43:17 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9E2hG8b026878 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 22:43:16 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.103]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9E2hFfC018210 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 22:43:15 -0400 Message-ID: <004b01c391fc$ebc68d30$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <1356494226.20031013212809@WordWrite.com> Subject: Re: Note to Mem Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 22:43:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Friday night I saw Lucinda Williams, backed by the Jayhawks... 'fell asleep. 'BawRing... Lucinda tried to get political later in her show... she started referencing the "downtrodden"... et al... No one responded to her cowshit. Bah... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Kay" To: Sent: Monday, 13 October, 2003 10:28 PM Subject: Note to Mem > Los Lonely Boys will be in Hawaii with Willie Nelson--I'm not sure > when, though. > > Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 21:55:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9E2tMHB015823 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:55:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AEEA31E60124; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:54:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 404981E60069 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:54:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A006DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 22:47:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13776988 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 22:47:38 -0400 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9E2lcb25108 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 22:47:38 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:47:37 PDT Message-ID: <20031014024737.44657.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:47:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Note to Mem To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1356494226.20031013212809@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > Los Lonely Boys will be in Hawaii with Willie > Nelson--I'm not sure > when, though. > > Karen Some folks really know how to make an entrance. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 22:15:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9E3F9HB016063 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 22:15:10 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BF2BB1E60126; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 22:14:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FC6F1E60129 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 22:14:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A008C6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 23:07:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13781282 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 23:07:26 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9E37Pb30031 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 23:07:25 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9E37KBh026085 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 22:07:23 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000401c39201$62fbd640$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: Headline-itis Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 22:15:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > > > >You must work on your mental imagery! Picture Boo and JMW going round > > >and round and round in a polka with AnnBork. > > ...or the three of them in tutus, doing Swan Lake. > > Couldn't find a picture of a threesome so this will have to do: > > http://www.getty.edu/art/collections/objects/oz49579.html > > Ann > Oh those goofy liberians at Halloween time. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 22:21:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9E3L7HB016121 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 22:21:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 09C0E1E60129; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 22:20:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43501E60126 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 22:20:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A00945@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 23:13:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13782300 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 23:13:23 -0400 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9E3DMb31432 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 23:13:23 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:13:22 PDT Message-ID: <20031014031322.18890.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:13:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Headline-itis To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <000401c39201$62fbd640$facadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Oh those goofy liberians > at Halloween time. > > - D. M. Just imagine what the anthropologists are up to. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 22:26:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9E3QqHB016199 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 22:26:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 801501E6012C; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 22:25:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5213E1E60129 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 22:25:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0097C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 23:19:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13782533 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 23:19:08 -0400 Received: from vmmr7.verisignmail.com (vmmrnat.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.187]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9E3J8b32240 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 23:19:08 -0400 Received: from ms4.verisignmail.com (ms4.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.177] (may be forged)) by vmmr7.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id PCF47150; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 23:19:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by ms4.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id ASQ48570; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 23:19:06 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:16:31 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Note to Mem Reply-To: mem@noxiousweeds.net Message-ID: <3F8ADDEF.22420.1EF52A5@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <1356494226.20031013212809@WordWrite.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 13 Oct 2003 at 21:28, Karen Kay wrote: > Los Lonely Boys will be in Hawaii with Willie Nelson--I'm not sure > when, though. I am always and genuinely appreciative of your attention, Karen, but who/what are/is Los Lonely Boys? Willie Nelson, I know of. Or is the name just a commentary on my social life? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 23:39:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9E4dSHB017787 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 23:39:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3EC5C1E6017E; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 23:38:32 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FFB91E6017D for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 23:38:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001A0E63@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 0:31:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13786967 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 00:31:00 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f20.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9E4Abb09280 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 00:10:37 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:10:31 -0700 Received: from 64.24.187.62 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 04:10:31 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.24.187.62] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Re Goings-On Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 04:10:31 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Oct 2003 04:10:31.0484 (UTC) FILETIME=[1BC62FC0:01C39209] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: > > Bo-ring. zzzzzzzzzzzzzz! etc. >I am seriously comforted by your reaction because I consider you a wise >person and because I had been seriously worrying about the situation. 1. You are making too much of the situation. 2. Jawboning about it will not help in any way. 3. The thoughts of regular posters on this subject are more or less predictable (cf. gazillion previous threads on similar issues) and jawboning will not make for an interesting, enlightening or entertaining thread. Me, I'd much rather picture Ken, JMW and AnnB in pinnk tutus ... _________________________________________________________________ Surf and talk on the phone at the same time with broadband Internet access. Get high-speed for as low as $29.95/month (depending on the local service providers in your area). https://broadband.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 23:41:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9E4fEHB017856 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 23:41:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 178D11E6014A; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 23:40:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDADD1E60134 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 23:40:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A00C38@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 0:33:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13787845 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 00:31:19 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9E4S6b10745 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 00:28:06 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9E4RwBh017849 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 23:28:04 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000801c3920c$a86d3ce0$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Funny Things Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 23:35:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h9E4fEHB017856 Heard on the news tonight. . . a family in Sioux City, Iowa was found to have 300 chickens living in their basement. Neighbors complained of the odor. (Imagine what the odor must have been inside the house!) Anyone else think Wanda Sykes is funny? Just caught a few minutes of her tonight with funny comments about various things in the news right now. On the tiger incident in Vegas she said "They're saying the tiger was disoriented. Of course he was disoriented. He was in a casino!" She has a show on Friday nights now but I haven't seen it. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 13 23:45:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9E4jNHB017932 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 23:45:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 245B01E6014A; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 23:44:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAF581E60034 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 23:44:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A00C6E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 0:37:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13788867 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 00:37:39 -0400 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:lXpqe9RyJuOjM/34TnmEcHRqujtshgXZ@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9E4bdb12312 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 00:37:39 -0400 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B2BE30604 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:37:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAB6F2382E for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:37:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3F8B3169.535A6977@maynor.net> References: <000801c391dc$6cf90e80$facadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Who is the patron saint of shapleless jumpers? X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Neal-Stephenson: Paper is a really advanced technology Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:37:29 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Headline-itis Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> And you might know I am reading it as >> dancing librarians, and am struggling with >> that mental image. > >You must work on your mental imagery! Picture Boo and JMW going round >and round and round in a polka with AnnBork. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Oh, the dance floor's a lot more crowded than that! Don't forget Brad and Aunti shaking it in a schottische, BrPaul and Emily whirling in a waltz, Cyclops and Marie doing a Gallop, and, off in the corner, Nipper entertaining the crowd with his Teletubby dance. Ken Miller Custos Librorum Jared Bean School of Librarianship From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 01:47:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9E6lGHB020437 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 01:47:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EE8A91E6018B; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 01:46:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B84431E60188 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 01:46:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A00E90@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 2:39:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13794003 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 02:39:31 -0400 Received: from imo-m01.mx.aol.com (imo-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.4]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9E6dVb26962 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 02:39:31 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.126.326fe940 (3996) for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 02:39:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <126.326fe940.2cbcf419@aol.com> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 02:39:21 EDT Subject: Re: Guardian/Observer: 100 Greatest Novels of All Time To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/13/2003 6:39:00 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >http://www.mobylives.com/Almond_Bloom.html I'm glad not everyone shares Bloom's critique because I like King's writing too. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 05:47:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9EAl5HB024997 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 05:47:05 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2AEB81E601A5; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 05:46:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED54D1E601A3 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 05:46:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001A147F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 6:39:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13801853 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 06:39:18 -0400 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9EAdHb16298 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 06:39:17 -0400 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 12:40:43 +0200 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id SBZZYCF6; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 12:40:41 +0200 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031014123825.01c49570@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 12:38:44 +0200 Subject: Re: Angel Dog In-Reply-To: <10ad271081b6.1081b610ad27@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 17:15 13.10.2003 -0400 skrev Marie Ascher: >> The one you take home always turns out best, anyway. >> Part of me wants another dog - the smart part tells me >> it's a pain in the begonia, for where I am in life at present. > >Oh yes. I definitely got The Best One. Here he is: > >http://marieascher.fotopic.net/show_collection.php?id=60536 Yes, he looks like the best one. Congratulations! Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 05:54:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9EAs7HB025185 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 05:54:08 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1968B1E601A4; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 05:52:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB0351E6003C for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 05:52:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001A148C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 6:45:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13801873 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 06:45:52 -0400 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9EAjqb16766 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 06:45:52 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9EAjp1R014933 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 03:45:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F8BD3A2.2050808@swbell.net> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 05:44:50 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Angel Dog References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031014123825.01c49570@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Welcome home, Laszlo :). You seem to be doing the right things with the crate. Enjoy those puppy kisses and puppy breath. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 06:15:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9EBFiHB025539 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 06:15:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 69AA91E601A4; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 06:14:45 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 334E41E60014 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 06:14:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A012CB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 7:07:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13802579 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 07:07:57 -0400 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9EB7vb04993 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 07:07:57 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9EB7tw4003702 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 06:07:56 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3F8BD8CD.2000205@swbell.net> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 06:06:53 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Headline-itis References: <000801c391dc$6cf90e80$facadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bookrat wrote: >>>And you might know I am reading it as >>>dancing librarians, and am struggling with >>>that mental image. >>> >>You must work on your mental imagery! Picture Boo and JMW going round >>and round and round in a polka with AnnBork. >> >>-- >>-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) >> > > Oh, the dance floor's a lot more crowded than that! Don't forget Brad and > Aunti shaking it in a schottische, BrPaul and Emily whirling in a waltz, > Cyclops and Marie doing a Gallop, and, off in the corner, Nipper > entertaining the crowd with his Teletubby dance. Ah, now this is an image to get me through my day. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 07:52:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ECqFHB027795 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 07:52:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0A06B1E6007E; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 07:51:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF8081E60075 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 07:51:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001A16FC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 8:44:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13808352 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:44:27 -0400 Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ECiRb18441 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:44:27 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HMQ00773Z5JFA@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:39:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:35:30 -0400 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:35:30 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Note to Mem To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <12813a126299.12629912813a@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Friday night I saw Lucinda Williams, backed by the Jayhawks... 'fell > asleep. Sounds like it should have been a good show, guess that's why you bought tickets. I saw LW a couple of years ago and she was fantastic, but I'm reading some bad reviews this tour. I've never seen the Jayhawks, but I love both of their albums -- great car music. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 08:02:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ED27HB028005 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:02:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8B6C51E60078; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:01:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D57E1E60075 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:01:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A01598@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 8:54:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13809328 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:54:19 -0400 Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ECsJb20502 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:54:19 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HMQ00BZYZ8R60@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:41:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:37:46 -0400 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:37:46 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Headline-itis To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <1c537e1c5b8d.1c5b8d1c537e@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >You must work on your mental imagery! Picture Boo and JMW going > round>and round and round in a polka with AnnBork. > > ...or the three of them in tutus, doing Swan Lake. > > cwv I take it the image of me in a tutu isn't considered as funny? Marie BFL From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 08:09:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ED9QHB028056 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:09:26 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B472D1E6007E; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:08:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77EA71E60079 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:08:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001A17A1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 9:01:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13809878 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:01:38 -0400 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ED1bb21756 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:01:38 -0400 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:03:04 +0200 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id SBZZYDS0; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:03:00 +0200 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031014145912.01b28f68@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:01:03 +0200 Subject: Re: Headline-itis In-Reply-To: <1c537e1c5b8d.1c5b8d1c537e@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 08:37 14.10.2003 -0400 skrev Marie Ascher: >> >You must work on your mental imagery! Picture Boo and JMW going >> round>and round and round in a polka with AnnBork. >> >> ...or the three of them in tutus, doing Swan Lake. >> >> cwv > >I take it the image of me in a tutu isn't considered as funny? Even I am not a librarian I work at least in a library, and I have at least appeared in public in tights. And if not a polka I have danced a Wienerwaltz on Norwegian TV almost 40 years ago. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 08:11:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9EDBcHB028106 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:11:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 50A461E6007E; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:10:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F6D21E60079 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:10:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A015E6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 9:03:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13810058 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:03:50 -0400 Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ED3ob22089 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:03:50 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HMQ00B1DZ146K@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:36:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:33:07 -0400 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:33:07 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Note to Mem To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <1cd02b1cf254.1cf2541cd02b@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Los Lonely Boys will be in Hawaii with Willie Nelson--I'm not sure > when, though. I'm going to see them at Roseland in a couple of weeks (opening for Robert Randolph). Did you think mem would care to see them? Does mem like the rock and roll? Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 08:24:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9EDOVHB028330 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:24:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 60F861E6007E; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:23:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 320571E60078 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:23:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A0165B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 9:16:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13811031 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:16:43 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9EDGhb23959 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:16:43 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-167.gwi.net [216.195.153.167]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9EDGdYr065673; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:16:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031014091129.00b193a8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:16:34 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Headline-itis In-Reply-To: <1c537e1c5b8d.1c5b8d1c537e@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:37 AM 10/14/2003 -0400, Marie Ascher wrote: > > >You must work on your mental imagery! Picture Boo and JMW going > > round>and round and round in a polka with AnnBork. > > > > ...or the three of them in tutus, doing Swan Lake. > > > > cwv > >I take it the image of me in a tutu isn't considered as funny? 1. you weren't mentioned in the group of polkaists (polka-ers?). 2. correct. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 08:31:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9EDVWHB028447 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:31:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EF6951E60079; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:30:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCC3F1E60078 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:30:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A016A5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 9:23:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13811763 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:23:44 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9EDNhb25147 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:23:43 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-167.gwi.net [216.195.153.167]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9EDNgYp066990 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:23:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031014092301.00b23f70@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:23:40 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Guardian/Observer: 100 Greatest Novels of All Time In-Reply-To: References: <20031012195345.GA7478@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >http://www.livresse.com/meilleurs/meilleurs-norvege.shtml >Ann For God's sake, this is in French. What kind of an unpatriotic, peacenik, anti-American are you anyway??!! bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 09:34:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9EEYFHB029491 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:34:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 299911E600A6; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:33:15 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB9361E6007E for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:33:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A01923@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:26:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13817695 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:26:27 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9EEQQb06361 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:26:26 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.72.190]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HMR3UG02.D6W for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 07:20:40 -0700 Message-ID: <3F8C0786.6507036B@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 07:26:14 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Guardian/Observer: 100 Greatest Novels of All Time References: <4a.236606a6.2cbc5fc0@aol.com> <3F8B23AD.1955237D@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Taped on the mailroom door today was a diatribe by Harold Bloom about > King's having won his recent award and about the "dumbing down of > America." So, fifty or a hundred years from now who do think will still be in print, Stephen King or John Updike, Saul Bellow, and the rest of that NYRB crowd? JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 09:37:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9EEbuHB029549 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:37:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 05CD91E600A6; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:36:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C95B51E6007E for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:36:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0193A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:30:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13818161 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:30:08 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9EEU7507363 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:30:07 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.72.190]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HMR40M03.06R for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 07:24:22 -0700 Message-ID: <3F8C0869.F4CBC63@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 07:30:01 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Headline-itis References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > >You must work on your mental imagery! Picture Boo and JMW going round > > >and round and round in a polka with AnnBork. > > ...or the three of them in tutus, doing Swan Lake. The year I came dressed as Superman I was told to Never. Wear. Tights. Again. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 09:46:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9EEksHB029684 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:46:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 20D1B1E60143; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:45:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E79DB1E600A6 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:45:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A019B9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:39:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13819097 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:39:05 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9EEd5508919 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:39:05 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.72.190]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HMR4FJ01.Q6M for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 07:33:19 -0700 Message-ID: <3F8C0A82.25D42C1D@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 07:38:58 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: <20031014011535.50710.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> <3F8B5261.67A909C0@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > I'm thinking that these might have been > soldiers who were not necessarily all that knowledgeable -- like people > who joined the military because they couldn't get into college, people > who had never read newspapers, etc. Some of them probably had no idea > what a "Letter to the Editor" was. What a touching tribute to the men and women of our armed forces. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 09:59:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9EExwHB029911 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:59:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 10A9E1E60146; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:58:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D45121E60143 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:58:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001A1C17@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:52:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13820453 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:52:10 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9EEq9511300 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:52:09 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id D34A52B8D5; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 07:52:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA74F2B8CB for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 07:52:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 07:52:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Guardian/Observer: 100 Greatest Novels of All Time In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031014092301.00b23f70@pop.gwi.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, bonniev wrote: > >http://www.livresse.com/meilleurs/meilleurs-norvege.shtml > >Ann > > For God's sake, this is in French. What kind of an unpatriotic, peacenik, > anti-American are you anyway??!! Well not -that- cosmopolitan, not too sophisticated to laugh at ha ha ha ha to laugh at hee hee hee hee to laugh at THE WEINER WALTZ! HA HA HA HA HA HA etc. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 10:29:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9EFTbHB030611 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:29:37 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CCF561E60150; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:28:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CFA41E6014C for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:28:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A01BCC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 11:21:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13824044 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 11:21:48 -0400 Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com (web20502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9EFLma17848 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 11:21:48 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:21:47 PDT Message-ID: <20031014152147.30900.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:21:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Fake Letters To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F8C0A82.25D42C1D@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I'm thinking that these might have been > > soldiers who were not necessarily all that > knowledgeable -- like people > > who joined the military because they couldn't get > into college, people > > who had never read newspapers, etc. Some of them > probably had no idea > > what a "Letter to the Editor" was. > > What a touching tribute to the men and women of > our armed forces. I really believe that the proportion of those who joined the military because they couldn't get into college must not be that large. Natalie has it sounding like failing to gain college entrance leads to contemplation of the bleakest of lives. Plus, the poor beggars do not read newspapers. :-] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 10:30:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9EFUUHB030647 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:30:30 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 32C4A1E60150; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:29:29 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0466E1E6014C for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:29:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A01BD2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 11:22:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13824116 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 11:22:41 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9EFMea18068 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 11:22:40 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9EFMOW1006008 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:22:24 -0700 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9EFMNWq005989; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:22:24 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031014081858.00a6eec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:20:06 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Headline-itis In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031014145912.01b28f68@localhost> References: <1c537e1c5b8d.1c5b8d1c537e@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:01 PM 10/14/2003 +0200, Espen Ore wrote: >08:37 14.10.2003 -0400 skrev Marie Ascher: > >> >You must work on your mental imagery! Picture Boo and JMW going > >> round>and round and round in a polka with AnnBork. > >> > >> ...or the three of them in tutus, doing Swan Lake. > >> > >> cwv > > > >I take it the image of me in a tutu isn't considered as funny? > >Even I am not a librarian I work at least in a library, and I have at >least appeared in public in tights. And if not a polka I have danced a >Wienerwaltz on Norwegian TV almost 40 years ago. > >Espen I printed the tutu photo of you. Have you showed Ingried? Did I spell her name correctly? I don't want Karen yelling at me. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 10:32:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9EFWqHB030659 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:32:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2E22A1E60150; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:31:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F01821E6014C for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:31:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A01C0B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 11:25:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13824339 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 11:25:03 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9EFP2a18523 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 11:25:02 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9EFP0eO012921 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:25:00 -0700 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9EFOxa2012873; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:24:59 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031014082133.00a6c890@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:22:38 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Meals?? In-Reply-To: <3F8B2CC9.DEBD0D60@maynor.net> References: <3F8B0774.D16EA775@maynor.net> <5.1.1.5.2.20031013143204.00a7a800@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:52 PM 10/13/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty Clark wrote: > > > No meals on my flights to Mexico. I'm packing. > >You are always packing and going! Don't those Berkeley students need >you there to radiate them? Others have been trained. >Did I mention that some good friends of mine will be living part-time in >Berkeley after retiring from here next summer? They're going to divide >their time between some land they bought in rural New Mexico and the >house in Berkeley that they have kept since being in grad school there >many years ago. They've been renting the Berkeley house out but will >reclaim it as their living quarters soon. They were very smart to keep it. Most people wouldn't be able to afford to buy their own homes today if they had to. Will you visit? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 10:33:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9EFXEHB030671 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:33:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E51D01E60154; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:32:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B7F1E6014C for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:32:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A01BEF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 11:25:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13824381 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 11:25:25 -0400 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9EFPPa18605 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 11:25:25 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:25:24 PDT Message-ID: <20031014152524.33933.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:25:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Dreaming To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dreamed of ~ quilting BB's ~ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 10:34:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9EFYcHB030724 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:34:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5E04A1E60154; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:33:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FACF1E60150 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:33:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A01C09@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 11:26:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13824507 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 11:26:49 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9EFQma18860 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 11:26:49 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9EFQWW1010303 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:26:32 -0700 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9EFQVWq010281; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:26:32 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031014082313.00a69ec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:24:15 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Kinship Terms In-Reply-To: <3F8B30AA.534423CB@maynor.net> References: <20031013185609.86979.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> <5.1.1.5.2.20031013152623.00a45330@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:09 PM 10/13/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty Clark wrote: > > > >I forgot to add in what I just wrote that the point was that if I had > > >indeed written a paper on Dickens, BB could have read my paper. :-) > > > > Please send it immediately. I had to take my library book back. > >Pay attention. I said that I didn't write a Dickens paper. Or at least >not one that I remember. Was your library book about Dickens? If >you've had to take it back, does this mean you are going to have to read >Dickens himself? I missed the if. I'm speed reading lately trying to keep up with work, play, and words-l. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 10:47:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9EFlSHB030975 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:47:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7E9E21E60154; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:46:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D4F41E60150 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:46:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A01CA3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 11:39:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13825975 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 11:39:39 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9EFdca22049 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 11:39:39 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.74.122]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HMR78H00.H78 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:33:53 -0700 Message-ID: <3F8C1B67.14F66EDD@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:51:03 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: <20031014152147.30900.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Plus, the > poor beggars do not read newspapers. :-] But some of them, such as Chief Wiggles, even manage web logs - and toy drives - from inside Iraq. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 14:41:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9EJfVHB003894 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:41:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BC95E1E60174; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:40:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23C251E60181 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:40:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A0269A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:33:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13850055 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:33:39 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9EJXca06073 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:33:39 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.47]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031014193332.XOBO1826.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:33:32 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8C4F8D.2391ACAF@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:33:33 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dreaming References: <20031014152524.33933.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > Dreamed of ~ quilting BB's ~ I dreamed about looking at a house, but what is far more interesting than that dream (which I barely remember now) was that in thinking about it right after I got up, I started thinking about looking at some houses that I can almost remember in a neighborhood that I can almost remember and with a somewhat complicated route to the area that I can remember bits of. It feels like a real memory, but I have been thinking about it off and on all day today and can't imagine when/where it would have been. I'm beginning to think that it was a dream sometime in the past that this recent dream triggered a memory of. Very strange. If I thought I could be hypnotised to find out whether it's a memory of real life or of some former dream, I would love to try. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 14:43:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9EJhVHB003956 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:43:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B165E1E6017F; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:42:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FDEB1E60174 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:42:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0269C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:35:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13850258 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:35:40 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9EJZda06517 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:35:39 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.47]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031014193533.XPAQ1826.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:35:33 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8C5007.C20C4748@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:35:35 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: <20031014011535.50710.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> <3F8B5261.67A909C0@maynor.net> <3F8C0A82.25D42C1D@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > > Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > I'm thinking that these might have been > > soldiers who were not necessarily all that knowledgeable -- like people > > who joined the military because they couldn't get into college, people > > who had never read newspapers, etc. Some of them probably had no idea > > what a "Letter to the Editor" was. > > What a touching tribute to the men and women of our armed forces. ?? I can't remember the name of the logical fallacy you just committed, but saying that some soldiers are not all that knowledgeable is not the same as saying that all soldiers are not knowledgeable. There are no doubt many very knowledgeable soldiers, even at the bottom ranks. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 14:47:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9EJlXHB004059 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:47:33 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5F9571E60181; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:46:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD92A1E6017F for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:46:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A026CB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:39:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13850440 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:39:42 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9EJdba07071 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:39:37 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.47]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031014193931.XRCD1826.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:39:31 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8C50F5.2CFA49BE@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:39:33 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: <20031014152147.30900.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > > > I'm thinking that these might have been > > > soldiers who were not necessarily all that > > knowledgeable -- like people > > > who joined the military because they couldn't get > > into college, people > > > who had never read newspapers, etc. Some of them > > probably had no idea > > > what a "Letter to the Editor" was. > > > > What a touching tribute to the men and women of > > our armed forces. > > I really believe that the proportion of those who > joined the military because they couldn't get into > college must not be that large. Nor was the proportion of those military people who signed the fake letter very large. > Natalie has it > sounding like failing to gain college entrance leads > to contemplation of the bleakest of lives. Plus, the > poor beggars do not read newspapers. :-] ?? Where exactly does bleakness fit into to what I said? I would find life without things like newspapers pretty bleak, but not all people feel that way. There are people in many different kinds of jobs who do not read newspapers. Presumably in these non-draft days people join the military for a variety of reasons. It's not like those horrible times when I first started teaching college and was faced constantly with "if I get an F in the course, I'll end up in Vietnam." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 14:48:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9EJmrHB004087 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:48:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 96E651E6017F; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:47:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 119E31E60174 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:47:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A026B8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:41:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13850560 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:41:01 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9EJf1a07340 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:41:01 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.47]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031014194052.XRTE1826.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:40:52 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8C5146.ED809B17@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:40:54 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: <20031014152147.30900.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> <3F8C1B67.14F66EDD@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > > Lynne Weber wrote: > > > Plus, the > > poor beggars do not read newspapers. :-] > > But some of them, such as Chief Wiggles, even manage web logs - and > toy drives - from inside Iraq. I don't know Chief Wiggles, but I feel sure that many soldiers manage all kinds of things. Nothing in what I have said has suggested otherwise. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 14:51:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9EJpgHB004152 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:51:43 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 304C91E6018A; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:50:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F2AC1E60181 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:50:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001A2820@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:43:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13850653 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:43:50 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9EJhga07539 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:43:43 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.47]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031014194337.XTCW1826.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:43:37 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8C51EB.17146988@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:43:39 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Guardian/Observer: 100 Greatest Novels of All Time References: <4a.236606a6.2cbc5fc0@aol.com> <3F8B23AD.1955237D@maynor.net> <3F8C0786.6507036B@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > > Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > Taped on the mailroom door today was a diatribe by Harold Bloom about > > King's having won his recent award and about the "dumbing down of > > America." > > So, fifty or a hundred years from now who do think will still be in > print, Stephen King or John Updike, Saul Bellow, and the rest of that NYRB > crowd? I have no idea. I've never read anything by Stephen King, but I don't think I would have any idea what the answer to that question is even if I had read everything every one of the above writers had ever written. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 14:52:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9EJqiHB004175 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:52:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 668A21E6018C; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:51:42 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95CEE1E60181 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:51:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A026EA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:44:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13850722 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:44:53 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9EJiqa07711 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:44:52 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.47]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031014194446.XTSA1826.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:44:46 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8C5230.F98DA37B@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:44:48 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Meals?? References: <3F8B0774.D16EA775@maynor.net> <5.1.1.5.2.20031013143204.00a7a800@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.1.5.2.20031014082133.00a6c890@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > >many years ago. They've been renting the Berkeley house out but will > >reclaim it as their living quarters soon. > > They were very smart to keep it. Most people wouldn't be able to afford > to buy their own homes today if they had to. Will you visit? I don't know whether I'll visit them. Possibly. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 15:16:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9EKGgHB004664 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:16:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7E0041E6018D; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:15:39 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5E7E1E6018C for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:15:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A028AD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:08:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13854240 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:08:50 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9EK8na14597 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:08:50 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.74.122]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HMRJP303.88X for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:03:03 -0700 Message-ID: <3F8C5A7C.F970CD8F@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:20:12 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: <20031014152147.30900.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> <3F8C50F5.2CFA49BE@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Nor was the proportion of those military people who signed the fake > letter very large. >http://abcnews.go.com/sections/WNT/World/iraq031013_letters-1.html JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 15:33:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9EKXlHB004984 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:33:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A1E8F1E601AC; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:32:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 131BA1E601A5 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:32:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A02980@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:25:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13856369 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:25:50 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9EKPea21033 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:25:49 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.47]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031014202535.RDTR1828.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:25:35 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8C5BC1.F6ADC3B7@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:25:37 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: <20031014152147.30900.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> <3F8C50F5.2CFA49BE@maynor.net> <3F8C5A7C.F970CD8F@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > > Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > Nor was the proportion of those military people who signed the fake > > letter very large. > > >http://abcnews.go.com/sections/WNT/World/iraq031013_letters-1.html ? Is that url supposed to be a response to what I wrote? If so, I don't get it. What's the connection? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 15:40:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9EKeRHB005109 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:40:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 20A031E601AC; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:39:25 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92B441E601A5 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:39:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A029A8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:32:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13856902 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:32:36 -0400 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9EKWZa22837 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:32:35 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:32:34 PDT Message-ID: <20031014203234.80557.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:32:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Fake Letters To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F8C50F5.2CFA49BE@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > ?? Where exactly does bleakness fit into to what I > said? I would find > life without things like newspapers pretty bleak, > but not all people > feel that way. There are people in many different > kinds of jobs who do > not read newspapers. > > Presumably in these non-draft days people join the > military for a > variety of reasons. It's not like those horrible > times when I first > started teaching college and was faced constantly > with "if I get an F in > the course, I'll end up in Vietnam." What I was trying to convey was, that there is a tremendous amount of middle ground - for example, those who chose not to go to college at all, those who pursued trades or vocations, rather than diplomas. There were some people who did not go to college at all because of the threat of service in Vietnam. Some of them merely got married. Others hightailed it for points north. The average, blue-shirted schmuck who serves in Iraq is the son or grandson of those poor downtrodden soldiers who DID serve in Vietnam. What sort of lives would we be pursuing if THEIR grandfathers were too smart to serve in World War II? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 15:50:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9EKogHB005352 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:50:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B4BA91E601A5; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:49:39 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 567511E60190 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:49:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001A2ADD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:42:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13857824 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:42:51 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9EKgoa25010 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:42:50 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.47]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031014204241.SJPF1781.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:42:41 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8C5FC3.A9D7FAAA@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:42:43 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: <20031014203234.80557.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > > ?? Where exactly does bleakness fit into to what I > > said? I would find > > life without things like newspapers pretty bleak, > > but not all people > > feel that way. There are people in many different > > kinds of jobs who do > > not read newspapers. > > > > Presumably in these non-draft days people join the > > military for a > > variety of reasons. It's not like those horrible > > times when I first > > started teaching college and was faced constantly > > with "if I get an F in > > the course, I'll end up in Vietnam." > > What I was trying to convey was, that there is a > tremendous amount of middle ground - for example, > those who chose not to go to college at all, those who > pursued trades or vocations, rather than diplomas. > > There were some people who did not go to college at > all because of the threat of service in Vietnam. Some > of them merely got married. Others hightailed it for > points north. > > The average, blue-shirted schmuck who serves in Iraq > is the son or grandson of those poor downtrodden > soldiers who DID serve in Vietnam. What sort of lives > would we be pursuing if THEIR grandfathers were too > smart to serve in World War II? I've read this twice, but I still don't get what it has to do with anything I've said. Who said anything about being "too smart to serve" (in whatever war)? (Re Vietnam, I don't get the part about not going to college at all because of the threat of service. I know that the draft system changed several times during that war, ending with the lottery. I know many people who stayed in school longer than they had planned to because it meant staying out of Vietnam. Then that changed, and I knew engineers who had thought about going to grad school but didn't because they could be exempt by working in a "vital industry." Is it that latter kind of situation you're talking about -- people choosing to work for "vital industries" instead of going to school? I don't remember that marriage was ever an exemption during Vietnam.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 15:53:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9EKrZHB005394 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:53:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 97FF31E601AC; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:52:32 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 448FC1E60190 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:52:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A02A2A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:45:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13858230 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:45:35 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9EKjZa25802 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:45:35 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A9W3E-0001WO-2A for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:45:52 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031014134155.040dfbb0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:46:16 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Fake Letters In-Reply-To: <3F8C5A7C.F970CD8F@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> References: <20031014152147.30900.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> <3F8C50F5.2CFA49BE@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > http://abcnews.go.com/sections/WNT/World/iraq031013_letters-1.html Thanks, JMW. That article reads in part: >In an e-mail to ABCNEWS today, the commander of the battalion, Lt. Col. >Dominic Caraccilo, said the "letter-writing initiative" was all his idea. > >Caraccilo said he circulated the form letter to his soldiers to give them >"an opportunity to let their respective hometowns know what they are >accomplishing here in Kirkuk. As you might expect, they are working at an >extremely fast pace and getting the good news back home is not always >easy. We thought it would be a good idea to encapsulate what we as a >battalion have accomplished since arriving Iraq and share that pride with >people back home." Caraccilo uses the same wording as Sgt. Oliver did yesterday in the New York Times... >"They are working at an extremely fast pace and getting the good news back >home is not always easy," Sgt. First Class Todd G. Oliver, a spokesman for >the 173rd Airborne Brigade, of which the soldiers' battalion is a part, >wrote yesterday in an e-mail message from Iraq. "They thought it would be >a good idea to encapsulate what they as a battalion have accomplished." http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/14/international/middleeast/14LETT.html?ex=1066708800&en=a269fedb8b37ca0e&ei=5062 or if you're already registered: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/14/international/middleeast/14LETT.html Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 16:24:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ELO7HB006036 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:24:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4F4CD1E601B4; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:23:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E5301E601B2 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:23:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001A2C88@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:16:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13862464 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:16:16 -0400 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ELGFa01337 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:16:15 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1de.11004757 (4340) for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:13:15 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1de.11004757.2cbdc0eb@aol.com> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:13:15 EDT Subject: Daisy's Gone To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mom gave her away today. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 16:42:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ELgqHB006580 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:42:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AE2A31E601BB; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:41:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E39D1E601B7 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:41:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A02DCA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:34:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13866427 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:34:33 -0400 Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ELYXa07169 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:34:33 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.f5.32874b4a (4116) for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:33:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:33:49 EDT Subject: Re: Daisy's Gone To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/14/2003 3:16:24 PM, BrandyKitt@AOL.COM writes: >Mom gave her away today. Without your knowing? Hopefully it's to a good home. I know this is hard on you, hang in there. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 16:46:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ELksHB006686 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:46:54 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F36631E601B7; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:45:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4E691E601B2 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:45:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A02E3E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:39:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13867420 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:39:02 -0400 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9ELd2a08161 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:39:02 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:39:01 PDT Message-ID: <20031014213901.71034.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:39:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Daisy's Gone To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1de.11004757.2cbdc0eb@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > Mom gave her away today. > To whom did she give her? Will Daisy be okay? Will you be okay? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 16:49:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ELncHB006730 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:49:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E73A41E601B7; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:48:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1C1B1E601B2 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:48:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A02E73@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:41:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13867861 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:41:46 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ELfka08788 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:41:46 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.47]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031014214141.SZYY21489.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:41:41 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8C6D96.4CC8E569@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:41:42 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Daisy's Gone References: <1de.11004757.2cbdc0eb@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > > Mom gave her away today. Without your consent? Who did she give her to? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 16:51:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ELpoHB006748 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:51:50 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D7C931E601B2; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:50:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A58291E601AF for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:50:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001A2F36@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:43:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13868579 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:43:57 -0400 Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ELhua09871 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:43:57 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.7b.1ade0c30 (4426) for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:40:10 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <7b.1ade0c30.2cbdc73a@aol.com> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:40:10 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Daisy's Gone To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/14/2003 4:34:56 PM Central Daylight Time, Dutchessg1@AOL.COM writes: << Without your knowing? Hopefully it's to a good home. I know this is hard on you, hang in there. >> She called me up at work and told me. I didn't even get to say "goodbye" to Daisy. And I was going to take lots of pictures of her tomorrow. Now, I'll never have the chance. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 16:53:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ELruHB006778 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:53:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 68E7A1E601BE; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:52:53 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 365CA1E601BB for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:52:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A02F36@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:46:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13869163 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:46:05 -0400 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ELk5a10587 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:46:05 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.120.25f85820 (4426) for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:45:25 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <120.25f85820.2cbdc875@aol.com> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:45:25 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Daisy's Gone To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/14/2003 4:39:13 PM Central Daylight Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << To whom did she give her? Will Daisy be okay? Will you be okay? >> Mom said it was a family; I hope Daisy will be OK; she deserves the best. As for me, I don't know. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Sig under construction From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 16:58:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ELwPHB006917 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:58:25 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CF8BB1E60051; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:57:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 926A51E60027 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:57:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001A302F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:50:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13870636 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:50:23 -0400 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.99]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ELoNa11613 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:50:23 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.11b.2948f336 (4426) for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:47:50 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <11b.2948f336.2cbdc906@aol.com> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:47:50 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Daisy's Gone To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/14/2003 4:41:49 PM Central Daylight Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << Without your consent? Who did she give her to? >> I wish I could have been here to ask the people some questions and say "goodbye" to my puppy. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Sig under construction From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 17:09:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9EM9XHB007162 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:09:33 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 86E191E600B9; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:08:29 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57EB51E60051 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:08:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001A3219@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:01:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13874808 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:01:40 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9EM1ea14837 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:01:40 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.47]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031014220134.TUMC1781.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:01:34 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8C7240.27F71C05@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:01:36 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Giving Methodism a Bad Name Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I realize that it says "evangelical Methodism" -- presumably to distinguish it from ordinary Methodism. But it still makes me cringe: ********* People close to the president say that his conversion to evangelical Methodism, after a life of aimless carousing, markedly informs his policies, both foreign and domestic. In the soon-to-be-published The Faith of George W. Bush (Tarcher/Penguin), a sympathetic account of this religious journey, author Stephen Mansfield writes (in the advance proofs) that in the election year 2000, Bush told Texas preacher James Robison, one of his spiritual mentors: "I feel like God wants me to run for president. I can't explain it, but I sense my country is going to need me. . . . I know it won't be easy on me or my family, but God wants me to do it." ********* from the VV by way of http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4976.htm -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 17:19:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9EMJrHB007423 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:19:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9182D1E601BB; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:18:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B3F71E60051 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:18:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A03328@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:12:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13874958 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:12:01 -0400 Received: from vbn.inter-touch.net ([194.205.224.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9EM20a14936 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:02:01 -0400 Received: from test2kserver (unknown [10.0.10.71]) by vbn.inter-touch.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D058340804 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:01:59 +0000 (/etc/localtime) From: tony@attglobal.net To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:58:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: London Message-ID: <3F8C394C.18420.F6FF82@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031014092301.00b23f70@pop.gwi.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I find myself somewhat unexpectedly in London on business for a week or so. The trip's been discussed for a while and put off endlessly, so I somehow didn't think it would happen. I have a fine view of Tower Bridge from the hotel (yes - I have been to see the twit-in-a-box - I can hear occasional jeers from my window). Most of the days are spent in the customer's data centre, with mostly free evenings. Somehow London feels quite foreign to me, which is sad. For various reasons (mostly the kids, I suppose) I haven't been here for over ten years, and it just doesn't feel like a place I know any more. On the other hand I did go to Bedford to visit my aunt (87), and various cousins I mostly haven't seen for years, and in most ways it could be 1983! We're all older and greyer, and my uncle died a couple of years ago, but otherwise the gang seems much the same. The young teens (my 1st cousins' kids) are now doctors and lawyers and such in mid career, but still - a pleasantly nostalgic visit. This is an appallingly expensive place, as y'all know I'm sure. I was expecting it, but still it hits. Certainly I'm glad to be on a business rather than holiday trip. Oh yes - daytime flights rule! I've never had such an easy west-to- east transition. Leave Pearson at 9am, arrive Heathrow 9:30pm. Heathrow Express to Paddington (15 min), taxi to the hotel (20 min), to bed by 1am, and it's done. (Why can't other cities have London-style taxis, btw...?) Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 17:19:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9EMJtHB007426 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:19:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 885F71E601BB; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:18:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53EC61E60051 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:18:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A03319@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:12:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13877052 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:12:04 -0400 Received: from vbn.inter-touch.net ([194.205.224.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9EMC3a17524 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:12:03 -0400 Received: from test2kserver (unknown [10.0.10.71]) by vbn.inter-touch.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 208F0340804 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:11:59 +0000 (/etc/localtime) From: tony@harminc.com To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:08:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: (Fwd) London Message-ID: <3F8C3BA4.20856.100276C@localhost> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I find myself somewhat unexpectedly in London on business for a week or so. The trip's been discussed for a while and put off endlessly, so I somehow didn't think it would happen. I have a fine view of Tower Bridge from the hotel (yes - I have been to see the twit-in-a-box - I can hear occasional jeers from my window). Most of the days are spent in the customer's data centre, with mostly free evenings. Somehow London feels quite foreign to me, which is sad. For various reasons (mostly the kids, I suppose) I haven't been here for over ten years, and it just doesn't feel like a place I know any more. On the other hand I did go to Bedford to visit my aunt (87), and various cousins I mostly haven't seen for years, and in most ways it could be 1983! We're all older and greyer, and my uncle died a couple of years ago, but otherwise the gang seems much the same. The young teens (my 1st cousins' kids) are now doctors and lawyers and such in mid career, but still - a pleasantly nostalgic visit. This is an appallingly expensive place, as y'all know I'm sure. I was expecting it, but still it hits. Certainly I'm glad to be on a business rather than holiday trip. Oh yes - daytime flights rule! I've never had such an easy west-to- east transition. Leave Pearson at 9am, arrive Heathrow 9:30pm. Heathrow Express to Paddington (15 min), taxi to the hotel (20 min), to bed by 1am, and it's done. (Why can't other cities have London-style taxis, btw...?) Tony H. ------- End of forwarded message ------- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 17:40:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9EMeLHB007830 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:40:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 33C101E601BE; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:39:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 011AB1E6018F for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:39:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001A357E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:32:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13882740 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:32:28 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9EMWSa22773 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:32:28 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.47]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031014223223.DLEW1828.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:32:23 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8C7978.A76869DC@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:32:24 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: (Fwd) London References: <3F8C3BA4.20856.100276C@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tony Harminc wrote: > Somehow London feels quite foreign to me, which is sad. For various > reasons (mostly the kids, I suppose) I haven't been here for over > ten years, and it just doesn't feel like a place I know any more. Something just occurred to me: Did your parents become Canadian citizens? What are you? Just Canadian? dual? > The young teens (my 1st cousins' kids) are now doctors and lawyers > and such in mid career, but still - a pleasantly nostalgic visit. It sounds great. > This is an appallingly expensive place, as y'all know I'm sure. I Indeed. The last time I was there it took me the whole week to start finding reasonable places to eat. And I was paying something like $80 a night to stay in a *VERY* modest little B&B, devoid of charm and not in a particularly pleasant location. > min), to bed by 1am, and it's done. (Why can't other cities have > London-style taxis, btw...?) What do you mean? I'm not much of a cab person, but I have been in London cabs on various occasions. How are they different? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 17:42:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9EMgmHB007865 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:42:48 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8B5871E601BE; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:41:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5935E1E6018F for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:41:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0363F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:34:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13883538 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:34:56 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9EMYta23470 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:34:55 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.47]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031014223450.DMHH1828.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:34:50 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8C7A0C.6AC7DB2D@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:34:52 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Under God Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Do any of you know exactly why "under God" was stuck into the PofA? I remember when it happened and remember stumbling trying to remember to include it after it was added. I wondered then why it was added, but I was too young to have paid much attention to things like news. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 17:46:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9EMkgHB007926 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:46:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E692D1E601C5; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:45:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7A251E601BE for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:45:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001A3681@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:38:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13884791 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:38:50 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9EMcoa24583 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:38:50 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9EMcls5006528 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:38:48 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <002701c392a5$09dacfe0$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031014092301.00b23f70@pop.gwi.net> <3F8C394C.18420.F6FF82@localhost> Subject: Re: London Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:46:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Oh yes - daytime flights rule! I've never had such an easy west-to- > east transition. Leave Pearson at 9am, arrive Heathrow 9:30pm. > Heathrow Express to Paddington (15 min), taxi to the hotel (20 > min), to bed by 1am, and it's done. (Why can't other cities have > London-style taxis, btw...?) > > Tony H. > Ah, just the mention of London brings back the feeling of London and I sit here for a moment reliving . . . . (sigh) - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 17:58:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9EMwPHB008110 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:58:25 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D97441E601BE; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:57:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B30B1E6018F for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:57:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A037DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:50:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13886615 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:50:33 -0400 Received: from vbn.inter-touch.net ([194.205.224.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9EMoXa26751 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:50:33 -0400 Received: from test2kserver (unknown [10.0.10.71]) by vbn.inter-touch.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCAC7340804 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:50:31 +0000 (/etc/localtime) From: tony@harminc.com To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:47:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: (Fwd) London Message-ID: <3F8C44AD.18575.1237236@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3F8C7978.A76869DC@maynor.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 14 Oct 2003 at 17:32, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Something just occurred to me: Did your parents become Canadian > citizens? What are you? Just Canadian? dual? My dad never did become a Canadian. But he was a great anglophile, and pretty much saw Canada as an outpost of empire, I think, and therefore had no need to be a citizen. He loved the English, but they didn't love him. :-( My mum took out her Canadian citizenship after - and somewhat prompted by - my doing so. (This was a couple of years after my father's death.) My sisters were born here (uh, there) and so are Canadian by birth and British by descent. I am the opposite, so my kids are British by descent, but my sisters' are Canadian only, because the British rule works for one generation only. > (Why can't other cities have > > London-style taxis, btw...?) > > What do you mean? I'm not much of a cab person, but I have been in > London cabs on various occasions. How are they different? Well, cabs in most cities I've seen are just ordinary cars of various sizes and styles. Usually not tiny cars (well in Paris they often are), but still just normal ones. NYC used to have Checkers, but they've gone and the taxis are just like the ones in Toronto or LA except that they're NYC Yellow. London cabs are unique - those big black things with huge space in the back (a bench seat for three, plus space for lots of luggage or two more flip-down seats plus some luggage). If you don't think London cabs are unique, I think you must've been in something else. Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 18:23:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ENNFHB008602 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:23:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1D9D61E60155; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:22:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E27381E60059 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:22:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A03B8C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:15:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13894118 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:08:42 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9EN8ga30683 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:08:42 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-167.gwi.net [216.195.153.167]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9EN8cQW066720; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:08:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031014190702.00b5d230@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:08:36 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: (Fwd) London In-Reply-To: <3F8C44AD.18575.1237236@localhost> References: <3F8C7978.A76869DC@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:47 PM 10/14/2003 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: >Well, cabs in most cities I've seen are just ordinary cars of >various sizes and styles. Usually not tiny cars (well in Paris they >often are), but still just normal ones. NYC used to have Checkers, >but they've gone and the taxis are just like the ones in Toronto or >LA except that they're NYC Yellow. > >London cabs are unique - those big black things with huge space in >the back (a bench seat for three, plus space for lots of luggage or >two more flip-down seats plus some luggage). If you don't think >London cabs are unique, I think you must've been in something else. It was years ago now, but in Karlsruhe, the taxicabs were Mercedes (as were the small buses at the Kernforschungcentrum). cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 18:23:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ENNHHB008605 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:23:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A63AC1E60155; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:22:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 771D01E60059 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:22:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A03BAD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:15:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13894136 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:08:43 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9EN8ga30690 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:08:42 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-167.gwi.net [216.195.153.167]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9EN8aQa066714; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:08:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031014190016.00b54308@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:03:16 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Under God In-Reply-To: <3F8C7A0C.6AC7DB2D@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:34 PM 10/14/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Do any of you know exactly why "under God" was stuck into the PofA? I >remember when it happened and remember stumbling trying to remember to >include it after it was added. I wondered then why it was added, but I >was too young to have paid much attention to things like news. As I recall, it happened during the Eisenhower days and happened because Congress had a lot of "God is on our side" types (much like today). I wouldn't be surprised if the McCarthy wtich-hunt obscenity wasn't also a factor. And Ike (as President) wasn't particularly known for his courage. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 18:24:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ENO1HB008630 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:24:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 759611E601BE; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:22:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 438751E60155 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:22:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001A3B3D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:16:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13894672 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:10:23 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ENANa31110 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:10:23 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A9YJM-00083I-HE for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:10:40 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031014161013.022f8f88@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:11:01 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Under God In-Reply-To: <3F8C7A0C.6AC7DB2D@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, >Do any of you know exactly why "under God" was stuck into the PofA? To differentiate us from godless communists. Here's one account: . Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 18:38:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ENcnHB008920 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:38:49 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8F66C1E601BE; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:37:45 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BA0D1E60059 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:37:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A03E11@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:30:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13899244 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:30:57 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ENUva02819 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:30:57 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.47]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031014233051.EIUI1828.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:30:51 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8C872D.E04B07B0@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:30:53 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: (Fwd) London References: <3F8C44AD.18575.1237236@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tony Harminc wrote: > My dad never did become a Canadian. But he was a great anglophile, > and pretty much saw Canada as an outpost of empire, I think, and > therefore had no need to be a citizen. He loved the English, but > they didn't love him. :-( They kicked him out? > My mum took out her Canadian citizenship after - and somewhat > prompted by - my doing so. (This was a couple of years after my > father's death.) My sisters were born here (uh, there) and so are > Canadian by birth and British by descent. I am the opposite, so my > kids are British by descent, but my sisters' are Canadian only, > because the British rule works for one generation only. Does being Candian by birth and British by descent or vice versa mean dual citizenship? > Well, cabs in most cities I've seen are just ordinary cars of > various sizes and styles. Usually not tiny cars (well in Paris they > often are), but still just normal ones. NYC used to have Checkers, > but they've gone and the taxis are just like the ones in Toronto or > LA except that they're NYC Yellow. A colleague of mine, now dead, moved here from Chicago driving a Checker cab -- or rather a former Checker cab -- it no longer had Checker lettering on it. He was a tiny man and looked funny at the wheel of that large, chunky car. > London cabs are unique - those big black things with huge space in > the back (a bench seat for three, plus space for lots of luggage or > two more flip-down seats plus some luggage). If you don't think > London cabs are unique, I think you must've been in something else. No, I've definitely ridden in London cabs, though it has been many years since I was last in one. I think the last time might have been a quick cab ride from the airport to the train station to go to Wales. On second thought, I don't think I would've flown to Heathrow on that trip. It was well after I started flying to Gatwick. So maybe it was from Victoria Station (end of the Gatwick train) to whatever station I needed to get to quickly to hop a train for Bangor, Wales. My memory is that Tokyo cabs resembled London cabs. I was in cabs in Japan only a few times, but I remember them as being black and rather boxy. The main thing I remember is that you don't open the doors -- they open automatically. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 18:40:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ENegHB008959 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:40:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A42881E601BE; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:39:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 715271E60059 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:39:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A03E38@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:32:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13899327 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:32:50 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ENWoa03094 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:32:50 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.47]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031014233244.EJNO1828.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:32:44 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8C879E.AC8161B9@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:32:46 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: (Fwd) London References: <3F8C7978.A76869DC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031014190702.00b5d230@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > It was years ago now, but in Karlsruhe, the taxicabs were Mercedes (as were > the small buses at the Kernforschungcentrum). Are the German highway patrolmen still called the "white mice" because of their driving white porsches? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 18:42:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ENgqHB008975 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:42:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3113D1E601BE; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:41:48 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F36411E60059 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:41:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A03E41@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:34:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13899411 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:34:59 -0400 Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ENYxa03390 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:34:59 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1cb.128844a6 (24895) for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:34:24 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1cb.128844a6.2cbde1fe@aol.com> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:34:22 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Dreaming To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/14/2003 10:26:00 AM Central Daylight Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << Dreamed of ~ quilting BB's ~ >> How would you affix the BB's to the material? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Sig under construction From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 18:47:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ENlfHB009126 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:47:41 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D1EE11E601CF; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:46:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A13B61E601C5 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:46:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A03E3F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:39:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13899594 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:39:49 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ENdna04100 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:39:49 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.47]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031014233944.EMMQ1828.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:39:44 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8C8939.B1D0B067@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:39:37 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Under God References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031014190016.00b54308@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > As I recall, it happened during the Eisenhower days and happened because > Congress had a lot of "God is on our side" types (much like today). I > wouldn't be surprised if the McCarthy wtich-hunt obscenity wasn't also a > factor. And Ike (as President) wasn't particularly known for his courage. It was definitely during the Eisenhower days. I was in late elementary school, so it was sometime in the mid '50s. (I from elementary school in '55.) I sure wish they hadn't added that phrase. I didn't see its point then, even as a child, and I don't see it now. The old PoA seemed fine. And if they had not added it, there wouldn't be the controversy now about deleting it, about which I have somewhat mixed feelings. I see no point in its being there, but it is in fact there, and the can of worms like the "in God we trust" on money will open. Maybe it would be good to zap all that stuff, but I don't know. I just wish somebody hadn't had the bright idea of adding it to the PofA in the first place (though God was already on money, of course). I'm suddenly reminded of the funny story that I've probably told here before about the couple of alcoholics in Columbus who were visited one Sunday afternoon by two Baptist deacons. The drunk man opened the door stark naked, and the startled deacons said, "We've come for the pledge" (as in pledges of money). The naked drunk man put his hand over his heart and said, "I pledge allegiance to the flag...." The story was finally told by the deacons after the alcoholic couple were both dead. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 18:51:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ENpWHB009219 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:51:33 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DF4561E601C5; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:50:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1C291E60059 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:50:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A03E3F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:43:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13899778 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:43:40 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ENhea04980 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:43:40 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.47]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031014234335.EOHT1828.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:43:35 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8C8A28.EAFD151C@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:43:36 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Under God References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031014161013.022f8f88@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > Here's one account: . Thanks. There's some interesting stuff there. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 19:01:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F01bHB009464 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:01:37 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8EBE61E60195; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:00:33 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FFCC1E60059 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:00:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A041CE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:53:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13906380 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:46:31 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f19.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.19]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ENkVa06843 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:46:31 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:46:25 -0700 Received: from 149.160.22.98 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:46:24 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.22.98] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Fake Letters Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:46:24 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Oct 2003 23:46:25.0981 (UTC) FILETIME=[61880ED0:01C392AD] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >The average, blue-shirted schmuck who serves in Iraq >is the son or grandson of those poor downtrodden >soldiers who DID serve in Vietnam. What sort of lives >would we be pursuing if THEIR grandfathers were too >smart to serve in World War II? A lot of their grandfathers were indeed reluctant to serve in World War II, and some were smart enough or well-connected enough to avoid it. One of the myths about WWII is that everyone in "the greatest generation" leapt at the opportunity to sign up and fight. If that were the case, of course, there wouldn't have been much need for a draft. In fact, something like 10,000,000 people were conscripted into service during the forties. One place to get an overview of the realities of this period is David Kennedy's "Freedom From Fear" (Oxford), but I think you can find more details by following up through his bibliography. That is, of course, unless you think that accuracy itself is equivalent to bashing the troops.... _________________________________________________________________ Enjoy MSN 8 patented spam control and more with MSN 8 Dial-up Internet Service. Try it FREE for one month! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 19:01:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F01mHB009481 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:01:48 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B7F151E60195; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:00:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 872761E60059 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:00:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A041D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:53:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13906513 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:46:58 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ENkva06940 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:46:57 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.47]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031014234652.EPXT1828.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:46:52 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8C8AEE.A46B4F3E@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:46:54 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Under God References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031014161013.022f8f88@mail.istori.com> <3F8C8A28.EAFD151C@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU PS: I meant to add a question that was triggered by the reference to Jehovah's Witnesses. They vote now, don't they? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 19:07:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F07MHB009577 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:07:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DFA5D1E60196; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:06:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE1E11E60195 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:06:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A043DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:59:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13910443 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:59:29 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ENxTa10133 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:59:29 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-167.gwi.net [216.195.153.167]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9ENxPYr076049; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:59:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031014195847.00b59d50@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:59:18 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: (Fwd) London In-Reply-To: <3F8C879E.AC8161B9@maynor.net> References: <3F8C7978.A76869DC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031014190702.00b5d230@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:32 PM 10/14/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >"clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > > > It was years ago now, but in Karlsruhe, the taxicabs were Mercedes (as were > > the small buses at the Kernforschungcentrum). > >Are the German highway patrolmen still called the "white mice" because >of their driving white porsches? I seem to recall hearing that reference, but again, that was years ago. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 19:13:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F0DkHB009703 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:13:46 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1B9B91E60195; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:12:42 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE201E60059 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:12:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001A4399@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:05:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13912439 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:05:53 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9F05ra11995 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:05:53 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.47]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031015000548.CPXN1826.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:05:48 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8C8F5E.6E4C92EA@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:05:50 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: (Fwd) London References: <3F8C44AD.18575.1237236@localhost> <3F8C872D.E04B07B0@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > My memory is that Tokyo cabs resembled London cabs. I was in cabs in > Japan only a few times, but I remember them as being black and rather A googling popped up pictures of colorful Tokyo cabs, so I guess my memory of their blackness is erroneous. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 19:57:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F0vaHB010796 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:57:36 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 987751E601CF; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:56:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 692E91E601EB for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:56:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A04B23@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:49:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13924488 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:49:42 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f5.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9F0nga20645 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:49:42 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:49:36 -0700 Received: from 149.160.22.98 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 00:49:36 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.22.98] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Under God Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:49:36 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2003 00:49:36.0908 (UTC) FILETIME=[35199CC0:01C392B6] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Draft questions for Lewis Black. Suggestions welcome. 1. Who would you rather date, Ann Coulter or Greta Van Susteren? [Coulter has recently become an apologist for Joe McCarthy, and Van Susteren’s father was McCarthy’s campaign manager back in 1946, which was before he was removed from the bench and jailed for failing to pay his taxes]. 2. Which is a more important influence on your style of angry commentary, the Old Testament prophets or Andy Rooney? 3. As you come into town, you’ll see signs indicating that Louisville is now the nation’s sixteenth largest city. Does size matter? 4. In Kentucky, sins like horse racing, tobacco, and bourbon are big business. That makes sin taxes unpopular in Kentucky. If you were going to levy a tax on just one virtue, which one would you choose? (faith, hope, charity, fortitude, justice, temperance, prudence). 5. What else could Kentucky tax to get out of its fiscal deficit? 6. We now have a pretty good idea why Rush Limbaugh was constantly getting things wrong. In the aftermath of his drug scandal, don’t you think it would be in the public interest to require all television and radio commentators to undergo random drug testing? 7. Would you pass? 8. Have you ever considered using a white tiger in your act? 9. If Arnold Schwarzenegger asks you to serve on his transition team, what advice will you give him? 10. There are a few internet folks pushing a campaign to draft you for a presidential run. If you run, which party will you represent, and who will you choose as your running mate? _________________________________________________________________ Enjoy MSN 8 patented spam control and more with MSN 8 Dial-up Internet Service. Try it FREE for one month! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 19:58:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F0waHB010813 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:58:36 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D5A7B1E601EC; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:57:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A77781E601EB for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:57:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001A4925@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:50:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13924530 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:50:43 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f53.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.53]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9F0oha20774 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:50:43 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:50:37 -0700 Received: from 64.24.187.185 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 00:50:37 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.24.187.185] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Funny Things Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 00:50:37 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2003 00:50:37.0596 (UTC) FILETIME=[5945DDC0:01C392B6] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU D.M: >Anyone else think Wanda Sykes is funny? Yeah. I like her stand-up stuff on Comedy Central. >She has a show on >Friday nights now but I haven't seen it. I haven't caught it this season but saw it in the spring (?). As is often the case with shows built around personalities, it sometimes works and sometimes doesn't. More interesting viewing than Friends and other standard sitcoms. _________________________________________________________________ See when your friends are online with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 20:04:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F14WHB010973 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:04:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C60931E601CF; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:03:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 981241E6019B for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:03:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A04B34@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:56:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13924673 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:56:39 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9F0uaa21356 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:56:36 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HMRX0R02.P9N for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:50:51 -0700 From: "John Williams" To: English Language Discussion Group Message-ID: <9355b9097c.9097c9355b@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:50:51 -0700 X-Mailer: Netscape Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en Subject: Re: Fake Letters X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > A lot of their grandfathers were indeed reluctant to serve in > World War II, > and some were smart enough or well-connected enough to avoid it. Marty, both of my parents enlisted in the army during World War Two. My father even had a job in a defense plant. How do you explain that? > One of the > myths about WWII is that everyone in "the greatest generation" > leapt at the > opportunity to sign up and fight. The draft preceeded our entrance into WWII. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 20:09:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F19eHB011079 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:09:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0EF961E601CF; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:08:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFD701E6019B for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:08:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A04B2F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:01:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13924841 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:01:47 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9F11ka22128 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:01:46 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HMRX9D02.V94 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:56:01 -0700 From: "John Williams" To: English Language Discussion Group Message-ID: <926fe8fab3.8fab3926fe@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:56:01 -0700 X-Mailer: Netscape Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en Subject: Re: Fake Letters X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Kaminski > > Thanks, JMW. Aw, garsh. [draws circles in the dirt with his big toe.] High praise indeed from the Duke of URL. Don't worry, guy - I'm not after your rice bowl. 8-) JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 20:10:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F1AgHB011101 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:10:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 191871E601EC; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:09:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA1221E601CF for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:09:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A04B41@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:02:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13924866 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:02:49 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9F12na22237 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:02:49 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.47]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031015010240.DQFH1826.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:02:40 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8C9CAE.142BAA1F@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:02:38 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen wrote: > A lot of their grandfathers were indeed reluctant to serve in World War II, My parents had a friend, a lawyer in Jackson -- I think he had dated my mother before my father came into her life and then he became friends with both of them), who said that if the U.S. got into war, he was going to move away to a desert island. And apparently he did. Pearl Harbor came, and Whitfield vanished, never to be heard of again. I've always found that story fascinating -- like I wonder where he found a desert island and what became of him. ... I just googled for his name (Whitfield Pierce) but found nothing. > that accuracy itself is equivalent to bashing the troops.... I find it really amazing and annoying how some people seem to try to turn things that are in no way troop-bashing into troop-bashing. My feeling was that that was what JMW was trying to do with what I said, though I'm not sure since he never really explained himself. In a way I was defending the letter-signers. Lynne had asked why they hadn't alerted their families and friends to the forthcoming publication of the letters, and I said that maybe they hadn't fully understood -- that maybe they were not very knowledgeable. JMW's reply, as well as Lynne's, suggested that I thought all military personnel were not knowledgeable. I found that way weird, to say the least. I also find it way weird if they think that none of them are of limited knowledge and experience. I feel quite sure that some of these 18-20-yr-old soldiers had probably never been out of their home counties before joining and that some of them had probably never read a Letter to the Editor anywhere. The same could be said of plenty of non-military 18-20-yr-olds (or other ages). To consider what I said troop-bashing is, well, to put it bluntly, stupid. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 20:24:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F1OGHB011408 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:24:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B87C31E601EF; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:23:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 883AF1E601EC for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:23:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001A4C83@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:16:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13931493 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:09:18 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9F19Ha24792 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:09:17 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.47]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031015010912.DTFK1826.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:09:12 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8C9E3A.EFEF2C24@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:09:14 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: <9355b9097c.9097c9355b@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > > > > > A lot of their grandfathers were indeed reluctant to serve in > > World War II, > > and some were smart enough or well-connected enough to avoid it. > > Marty, both of my parents enlisted in the army during World War > Two. My father even had a job in a defense plant. How do you explain > that? You've done it again -- that same logical fallacy I mentioned earlier. To say that a lot of people were reluctant isn't the same as saying that everybody was reluctant. Your parents enlisted because they were not reluctant. What is it that Marty needs to explain? > > One of the > > myths about WWII is that everyone in "the greatest generation" > > leapt at the > > opportunity to sign up and fight. > > The draft preceeded our entrance into WWII. ?? Afaik, one has always been able to sign up, even if not drafted. I mean if one is of the right age, passes the tests, etc. My uncle wasn't drafted. He and his fraternity buddies at Ole Miss all volunteered in early '42. And they went away to war. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 20:25:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F1PLHB011458 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:25:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 231A01E601EC; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:24:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8E5A1E601CF for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:24:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A04F09@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:17:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13932265 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:12:03 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f68.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9F1C3a25351 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:12:03 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:11:57 -0700 Received: from 149.160.22.98 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 01:11:57 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.22.98] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Fake Letters Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:11:57 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2003 01:11:57.0327 (UTC) FILETIME=[540D51F0:01C392B9] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: John Williams > Marty, both of my parents enlisted in the army during World War >Two. My father even had a job in a defense plant. How do you explain >that? Why? Didn't they tell you why they enlisted? > The draft preceeded our entrance into WWII. Yes, the Selective Service Act of 1940 was the first peacetime conscription act in U.S. history. And is this leading somewhere interesting? _________________________________________________________________ See when your friends are online with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 20:26:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F1QPHB011492 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:26:25 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C6DB01E601EC; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:25:20 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 963DF1E601CF for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:25:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A04F4C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:18:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13932996 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:14:31 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f63.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.63]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9F1EVa25778 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:14:31 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:14:25 -0700 Received: from 149.160.22.98 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 01:14:25 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.22.98] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Under God Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:14:25 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2003 01:14:25.0963 (UTC) FILETIME=[ACA55FB0:01C392B9] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Oh, in tribute to this thread, I'm adding a question about the pledge of allegiance. Something like, if you could change it, what would you add or subtract. I may also ask a question about fake letters. >From: Marty Rosen >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Under God >Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:49:36 -0400 > >Draft questions for Lewis Black. Suggestions welcome. > >1. Who would you rather date, Ann Coulter or Greta Van Susteren? [Coulter >has recently become an apologist for Joe McCarthy, and Van Susteren’s >father >was McCarthy’s campaign manager back in 1946, which was before he was >removed from the bench and jailed for failing to pay his taxes]. > >2. Which is a more important influence on your style of angry commentary, >the Old Testament prophets or Andy Rooney? > >3. As you come into town, you’ll see signs indicating that Louisville is >now >the nation’s sixteenth largest city. Does size matter? > >4. In Kentucky, sins like horse racing, tobacco, and bourbon are big >business. That makes sin taxes unpopular in Kentucky. If you were going to >levy a tax on just one virtue, which one would you choose? (faith, hope, >charity, fortitude, justice, temperance, prudence). > >5. What else could Kentucky tax to get out of its fiscal deficit? > >6. We now have a pretty good idea why Rush Limbaugh was constantly getting >things wrong. In the aftermath of his drug scandal, don’t you think it >would be in the public interest to require all television and radio >commentators to undergo random drug testing? > >7. Would you pass? > >8. Have you ever considered using a white tiger in your act? > >9. If Arnold Schwarzenegger asks you to serve on his transition team, what >advice will you give him? > >10. There are a few internet folks pushing a campaign to draft you for a >presidential run. If you run, which party will you represent, and who will >you choose as your running mate? > >_________________________________________________________________ >Enjoy MSN 8 patented spam control and more with MSN 8 Dial-up Internet >Service. Try it FREE for one month! >http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup _________________________________________________________________ Fretting that your Hotmail account may expire because you forgot to sign in enough? Get Hotmail Extra Storage today! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 20:26:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F1QSHB011495 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:26:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A5B421E601EC; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:25:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76BAD1E601CF for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:25:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A04F5F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:18:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13933030 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:14:40 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9F1Eda25805 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:14:39 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9F1Eas5017068 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:14:37 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <002d01c392ba$cdfd2e80$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: Fake Letters Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:22:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >The average, blue-shirted schmuck who serves in Iraq > >is the son or grandson of those poor downtrodden > >soldiers who DID serve in Vietnam. What sort of lives > >would we be pursuing if THEIR grandfathers were too > >smart to serve in World War II? > > A lot of their grandfathers were indeed reluctant to serve in World War II, > and some were smart enough or well-connected enough to avoid it. One of the > myths about WWII is that everyone in "the greatest generation" leapt at the > opportunity to sign up and fight. If that were the case, of course, there > wouldn't have been much need for a draft. In fact, something like > 10,000,000 people were conscripted into service during the forties. One > place to get an overview of the realities of this period is David Kennedy's > "Freedom From Fear" (Oxford), but I think you can find more details by > following up through his bibliography. That is, of course, unless you think > that accuracy itself is equivalent to bashing the troops.... > Well, for what it's worth, since I was there . . I didn't know one young man who tried in any way to escape service in that war. Not to say there were none, but I didn't know any. Those who were rated 4F and couldn't go had the biggest problem and were the saddest. My husband and all his friends signed up while still in high school . . and they left the day after graduation. Likewise, my brother, all my cousins, all my friends. They knew they would be drafted so they hurried to sign up before the draft, thinking they would have more choice as to which service they entered. Sometimes they did and sometimes they didn't have a choice, depending upon which service needed them most. A draft was necessary, of course, because there wasn't time to speculate on signups . . they needed numbers immediately to begin training. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 20:28:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F1SEHB011533 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:28:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B1DCF1E601EC; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:27:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EC5F1E60053 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:27:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001A4DE1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:20:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13934280 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:18:47 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f93.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.93]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9F1Ila26691 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:18:47 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:18:42 -0700 Received: from 149.160.22.98 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 01:18:41 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.22.98] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Fake Letters Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:18:41 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2003 01:18:42.0024 (UTC) FILETIME=[45452E80:01C392BA] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor >>18-20-yr-olds (or other ages). To consider what I said troop-bashing >is, well, to put it bluntly, stupid. Well, with Rush off the air for a month, there will be a lot of dittoheads with nothing to ditto but blank lines..... _________________________________________________________________ Send instant messages to anyone on your contact list with MSN Messenger 6.0. Try it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 20:31:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F1VoHB011638 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:31:50 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5C1131E60053; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:30:45 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BF061E601CF for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:30:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A050E6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:23:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13935913 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:23:56 -0400 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9F1Nua27823 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:23:56 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:23:55 PDT Message-ID: <20031015012355.20380.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:23:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Under God To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F8C7A0C.6AC7DB2D@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Do any of you know exactly why "under God" was stuck > into the PofA? I > remember when it happened and remember stumbling > trying to remember to > include it after it was added. I wondered then why > it was added, but I > was too young to have paid much attention to things > like news. If I remember correctly, it was added during the Eisenhower admin, under his aegis, but I don't remember the reasons given, either. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 20:34:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F1YVHB011694 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:34:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7AA861E601F1; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:33:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 429701E601CF for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:33:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A05166@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:26:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13936873 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:26:34 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9F1QYa28664 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:26:34 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.47]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031015012621.YGRW14434.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:26:21 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8CA23F.7A882C4D@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:26:23 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: <002d01c392ba$cdfd2e80$facadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > My husband and all his friends signed up while still in > high school . . and they left the day after graduation. > Likewise, my brother, all my cousins, all my friends. > They knew they would be drafted so they hurried to > sign up before the draft, thinking they would have more > choice as to which service they entered. Sometimes they > did and sometimes they didn't have a choice, depending > upon which service needed them most. I bet that's why my uncle and his friends volunteered. In fact, it's ringing a distant bell with me. I remember his telling me about all of them sitting around in the fraternity house listening to the Pearl Harbor news and talking about what to do. What most of them decided was to volunteer right away. And I'm thinking now that he might have said it was because of the above reason -- volunteering before being drafted. I'll ask him. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 20:37:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F1bmHB011733 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:37:48 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 217001E601CF; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:36:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E41621E601A1 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:36:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001A4F79@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:29:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13937914 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:29:45 -0400 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9F1Tia29336 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:29:45 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9F1ThkB001663 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:29:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F8CA2CB.6000901@swbell.net> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:28:43 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: <20031014203234.80557.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > The average, blue-shirted schmuck who serves in Iraq > is the son or grandson of those poor downtrodden > soldiers who DID serve in Vietnam. What sort of lives > would we be pursuing if THEIR grandfathers were too > smart to serve in World War II? My husband, a Vietnam vet, is hardly "poor" and "downtrodden." Thanks for the sentiment, though. Neither is my brother, who served in the first war in Iraq, a "blue-shirted schmuck." -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 20:40:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F1eQHB011767 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:40:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 477E21E601CF; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:39:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 120B11E601A1 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:39:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A05272@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:32:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13938878 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:32:33 -0400 Received: from web20511.mail.yahoo.com (web20511.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.150]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9F1WXa29963 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:32:33 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20511.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:32:32 PDT Message-ID: <20031015013232.3974.qmail@web20511.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:32:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Dreaming To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1cb.128844a6.2cbde1fe@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > How would you affix the BB's to the material? > > Evelyn Duncan Bright burgundy blanket stitch. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 20:45:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F1jXHB011908 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:45:33 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8CF1E1E601CF; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:44:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A4431E601A1 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:44:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A052E1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:37:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13939855 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:37:40 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f32.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.32]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9F1bda30685 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:37:39 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:37:34 -0700 Received: from 149.160.22.98 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 01:37:33 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.22.98] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Fake Letters Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:37:33 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2003 01:37:34.0047 (UTC) FILETIME=[E8022EF0:01C392BC] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Doris Markland > >A draft was necessary, of course, because there wasn't time >to speculate on signups . . they needed numbers immediately >to begin training. As JMW has already observed, the draft was instituted in 1940. As you stated earlier, many "volunteers" joined because they knew they would be drafted and wished to choose their branch. Whether such voluntarism is in fact voluntary at all is an interesting question in itself. The point you make above, however, raises the question why it was that from 1943 to 1945 it was necessary to draft some 6 million people into service. Surely, between Dec. 1941 and Jan 1943 there was plenty of time to volunteer. http://www.sss.gov/induct.htm We know that the rate of conscientious objector claims was quite low during world war ii compared to Vietnam, but the fact remains that there's quite a bit of mythologizing about the actual response to the second world war. The other day, Kentucky's senator McConnell was arguing the importance of spending the 87 billion dollars in Iraq. One of his arguments was: we didn't argue about the cost of going to war before entering world war ii. In fact, that's hogwash. Prior to Pearl Harbor, there was indeed plenty of arguing in this country about the cost of going to war. Nor did it stop once we entered. American corporations and unions battled hard during the war as companies attempted to boost their war profits while controlling wages. _________________________________________________________________ Page a contact’s mobile phone with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 20:50:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F1obHB012003 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:50:37 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9F54C1E601CF; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:49:32 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C0BF1E601EF for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:49:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A05307@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:42:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13940265 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:42:44 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9F1gia31516 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:42:44 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-167.gwi.net [216.195.153.167]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9F0FsYp079856 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:15:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031014201349.00b24118@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:15:55 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Daisy's Gone In-Reply-To: <11b.2948f336.2cbdc906@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I wish I could have been here to ask the people some >questions and say "goodbye" to my puppy. >Evelyn Duncan Are you sure you can believe your mother? Maybe Daisy just ran away and you mother was afraid to tell you so that she made up a story about giving her to a family. How could all of this have come up in one day while you were at work? Was your mother planning this? Did she invite the family over yesterday? This all sounds rather bizarre, tawdry, and suspicious to me, not to mention extremely unkind to you. Aren't you angry? bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 20:55:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F1tRHB012196 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:55:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 905C21E601A1; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:54:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E2161E6019E for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:54:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0534C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:47:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13940618 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:47:34 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9F1lXa32450 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:47:33 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.47]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031015014728.GVRF1828.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:47:28 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8CA732.3F332C94@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:47:30 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Daisy's Gone References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031014201349.00b24118@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Are you sure you can believe your mother? Maybe Daisy just ran away and > you mother was afraid to tell you so that she made up a story about giving > her to a family. How could all of this have come up in one day while you > were at work? Was your mother planning this? Did she invite the family > over yesterday? This all sounds rather bizarre, tawdry, and suspicious to > me, not to mention extremely unkind to you. Aren't you angry? It was probably when you were out of town and on nomail that Evelyn told us that her mother was going to give Daisy away. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 20:56:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F1uwHB012256 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:56:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3956D1E6019E; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:55:53 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AED71E60137 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:55:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A05340@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:49:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13940663 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:49:03 -0400 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9F1mfa32559 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:48:41 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:48:40 PDT Message-ID: <20031015014840.72481.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:48:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Fake Letters To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > A lot of their grandfathers were indeed reluctant to > serve in World War II, > and some were smart enough or well-connected enough > to avoid it. One of the > myths about WWII is that everyone in "the greatest > generation" leapt at the > opportunity to sign up and fight. If that were the > case, of course, there > wouldn't have been much need for a draft. In fact, > something like > 10,000,000 people were conscripted into service > during the forties. One > place to get an overview of the realities of this > period is David Kennedy's > "Freedom From Fear" (Oxford), but I think you can > find more details by > following up through his bibliography. That is, of > course, unless you think > that accuracy itself is equivalent to bashing the > troops.... Thank you for the cite, I will follow it up. The question in my mind is "Why do they go?" There is no draft now. They go knowing what's on the line. They have been trained. What makes servicemen (of any country) give up their freedoms, their sense of selves, and their bodies/lives? There will always be people who buy or negotiate their way out of doing things they don't want to do - there must be dozens of things we do ever week that we don't want to do, and a case can usually be made for not doing those things. This would be especially so when one's life is significantly at risk. Certainly many folks have avoided the ugliness's and unpleasantness of life since the beginning of time. But others go and struggle and sometimes die. So, I ask myself again and again, why do they go? And I suspect many others must ponder the same question. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 20:57:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F1vpHB012269 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:57:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B7ED41E60137; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:56:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 867341E60136 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:56:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A05337@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:49:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13940719 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:49:58 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9F1nwa32688 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:49:58 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-167.gwi.net [216.195.153.167]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9F1nlQU097301 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:49:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031014214907.00b78628@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:49:47 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Daisy's Gone In-Reply-To: <3F8CA732.3F332C94@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031014201349.00b24118@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >It was probably when you were out of town and on nomail that Evelyn told >us that her mother was going to give Daisy away. > -- Natalie Yes, but then she changed her mind. Today's action seemed to come as a total surprise to Evelyn. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 20:59:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F1xgHB012318 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:59:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E7F5A1E60137; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:58:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B98AE1E60136 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:58:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A05349@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:51:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13940776 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:51:49 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9F1pna00423 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:51:49 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-167.gwi.net [216.195.153.167]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9F1plYp095670 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:51:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031014215048.00b90290@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:51:48 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Fake Letters In-Reply-To: <20031015014840.72481.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >What makes servicemen (of any >country) give up their freedoms, their sense of >selves, and their bodies/lives? I know that one of my nephews went back in the '60s because it was either that or serve time in the local jail for his accumulated traffic violations. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 21:02:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F22oHB012356 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:02:50 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B77831E60137; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:01:45 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8583C1E60136 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:01:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001A50CB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:54:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13940931 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:54:57 -0400 Received: from imo-m03.mx.aol.com (imo-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.6]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9F1sua00964 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:54:56 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1e0.11959726 (25508) for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:54:42 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1e0.11959726.2cbe02e1@aol.com> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:54:41 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Daisy's Gone To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/14/2003 8:43:07 PM Central Daylight Time, bonniev@GWI.NET writes: << Are you sure you can believe your mother? Maybe Daisy just ran away and you mother was afraid to tell you so that she made up a story about giving her to a family. >> I don't know if I can believe her, but I know that Daisy would not run away. When Daisy pulled me over and I screamed, she ran straight for the apartment. She knows that if anything happens, come straight home. Am I angry? Of course, I am angry; I am also dammed sad; again, I lose someone I love. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Sig under construction From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 21:03:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F23XHB012373 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:03:33 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5282D1E6019E; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:02:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 224671E60136 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:02:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0534A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:55:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13940949 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:55:39 -0400 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9F1tda01049 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:55:39 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:55:38 PDT Message-ID: <20031015015538.28762.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:55:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Fake Letters To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F8C9CAE.142BAA1F@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > My parents had a friend, a lawyer in Jackson -- I > think he had dated my > mother before my father came into her life and then > he became friends > with both of them), who said that if the U.S. got > into war, he was going > to move away to a desert island. And apparently he > did. Pearl Harbor > came, and Whitfield vanished, never to be heard of > again. I've always > found that story fascinating -- like I wonder where > he found a desert > island and what became of him. I love this story. I wish you had found him. > > that accuracy itself is equivalent to bashing the > troops.... > > I find it really amazing and annoying how some > people seem to try to > turn things that are in no way troop-bashing into > troop-bashing. what I > said troop-bashing > is, well, to put it bluntly, stupid. Indeed, I would want to know who WAS troop-bashing. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 21:08:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F28QHB012406 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:08:26 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8DC281E601A6; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:07:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EB501E6019E for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:07:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A054EF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:00:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13947060 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:59:50 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f18.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9F1vta02798 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:57:55 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:57:49 -0700 Received: from 149.160.22.98 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 01:57:49 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.22.98] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Fake Letters Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:57:49 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2003 01:57:49.0796 (UTC) FILETIME=[BCA6C240:01C392BF] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Lynne Weber > >So, I ask myself again and again, why do they go? And >I suspect many others must ponder the same question. Ponder to your heart's content, but I'm not conviced there's any glorious martial mystery to contemplate. I don't think most of them join up looking for battlefield glory. For many it's an economic choice; they can't find work, and the military offers them training in a variety of fields, as well as (perhaps Natalie's point) financial assistance for college. For evidence, you might give thought to the ways in which most of the branches market their recruiting efforts. This is especially true for the guardsmen, many of whom are now openly saying that what they're getting ain't exactly what they signed on for. _________________________________________________________________ Send instant messages to anyone on your contact list with MSN Messenger 6.0. Try it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 21:12:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F2CpHB012473 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:12:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9C2E51E6019E; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:11:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E1401E60136 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:11:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001A5383@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:04:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13940626 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:58:03 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9F1m3a32498 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:48:03 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9F1ljI7001736 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:47:45 -0400 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:48:02 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: condo democracy Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU As I have said, elsewhere if not here, I think my role at HH for the next year is to be the new kid on the block. I am enjoying my role. I have already been approached about serving on the board, but I have explained that I must live here for a full year before I can consider that. Then this week I had a lesson in condo democracy. The way these buildings are built, either the AC can be on or the full-dress boiler heat can be on - not both at the same time. We had a cool spell about two weeks ago, and management turned off the AC and turned on boiler heat. Big mistake! (I wonder if they make it every year?) The first brief cool period is ALWAYS followed by a longish warm or even hot spell (through Indian summer). A few days ago anonymous notes started appearing on the little board in the elevator used for communicating between the office and the residents, all grumbling about the heat. Finally, one note said, "This is a health hazard, and HH is on notice!" Today, when I got home, there was a longish note in the elevator saying "The chiller has been turned on" etc. and explaining that we now have AC AND "supplemental heat" and that the boiler will not be turned back on until we have consistent 30s to low 40s. Good decision! Of course, it is to be in the 40s tonight! I have open windows and am very comfortable. I am enjoying learning how all this works! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 21:16:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F2GeHB012548 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:16:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 19EA71E6019E; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:15:35 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDE831E60136 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:15:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A057DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:08:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13949345 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:04:39 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9F24da04069 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:04:39 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <20031015020433016003vpnre> (Authid: adamh1); Wed, 15 Oct 2003 02:04:33 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "meebers" Subject: Re: Fake Letters Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:04:32 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From Marty, stuck in the error log. Watch that editing, people! =============== The enclosed message, found in the WORDS-L mailbox and shown under the spool ID 13940736 in the system log, has been identified as a possible delivery error notice for the following reason: "Sender:", "From:" or "Reply-To:" field pointing to the list has been found in mail body. ------------------------ Message in error (34 lines) -------------------------- Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f109.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.109]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9F1oJa32746 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:50:19 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:50:13 -0700 Received: from 149.160.22.98 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 01:50:13 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.22.98] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] Fr om: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Fake Letters Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:50:13 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2003 01:50:13.0663 (UTC) FILETIME=[ACC662F0:01C392BE] >Fr om: Natalie Maynor Re ply-To: English Language Discussion Group >reluctant. What is it that Marty needs to explain? Of course I needn't explain anything. It's interesting, though, that the issue of the U.S. response to world war ii is viewed by many as a sacrosanct topic, immune from any critical, fact-based discussion. In general, there is a kind of "world war ii exceptionalism" in play that precludes anything other than dreamy, defensive self-righteousness and a Hallmarkian historical perspective. _________________________________________________________________ See when your friends are online with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 21:17:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F2HBHB012573 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:17:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3E3BB1E6019E; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:16:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E75F1E60136 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:16:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001A5519@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:09:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13949722 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:05:54 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9F25sa04333 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:05:54 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.47]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031015020549.BWNR1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:05:49 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8CAB7F.B9976253@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:05:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: <20031015014840.72481.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Thank you for the cite, I will follow it up. The > question in my mind is "Why do they go?" There is no > draft now. They go knowing what's on the line. They > have been trained. What makes servicemen (of any > country) give up their freedoms, their sense of > selves, and their bodies/lives? I have no doubt that many, probably most, military personnel do it because they believe it to be important and are willing to risk their lives to defend their country (countries -- any country, as you said above). I think you underestimate the human spirit in thinking that people are not willing to risk their lives for things they consider important. There are surely people in the military who are there for other reasons -- who perhaps thought, joining in a time of peace, that they would never really be in a war. Certainly that has been said by some of the reservists quoted in the past year -- those who joined the reserves for the money/education/whatever and seemed downright surprised that military matters might include wars. But there are many more who are in the military because they think what they are doing there really matters. I have great respect and appreciation of the troops, which is why I get mightily pissed-off by people who believe that being anti-war, marching in peace parades, going to peace rallies means not "supporting our troops." The troops do not make the decisions about when/where/why to fight. They are not given that privilege. I've wondered when seeing the various Iraq-related bumper stickers why I haven't seen one yet saying "SUPPORT OUR TROOPS -- FIRE BUSH!" That is my attitude. The best way to support our troops, imho, is to get rid of their ridiculous Commander-in-Chief. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 21:17:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F2HcHB012576 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:17:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 543301E601A6; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:16:33 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2287E1E601A2 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:16:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001A5562@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:09:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13950032 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:06:58 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9F26va04491 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:06:57 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.47]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031015020652.BWYT1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:06:52 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8CABBE.F6B74190@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:06:54 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Daisy's Gone References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031014201349.00b24118@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031014214907.00b78628@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > >It was probably when you were out of town and on nomail that Evelyn told > >us that her mother was going to give Daisy away. > > -- Natalie > > Yes, but then she changed her mind. Today's action seemed to come as a > total surprise to Evelyn. Yes, it did. And I agree with the sentiments at the end of your previous posting about it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 21:20:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F2KxHB012639 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:20:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 89E841E6019E; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:19:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 514361E60136 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:19:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A05923@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:13:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13951871 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:13:06 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9F2D5a05705 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:13:05 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.47]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031015021300.BZLY1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:13:00 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8CAD2E.376CFCAD@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:13:02 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: condo democracy References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > I am enjoying learning how all this works! Me too. I gather that you are enjoying that way of life, but I would be out of there in a flash. It is not the way I want to live. You don't even have control over when to turn on heat or a/c?? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 21:24:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F2OuHB012738 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:24:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C31231E6019E; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:23:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 930D31E60136 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:23:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A059BD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:17:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13952986 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:16:52 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9F2Gqa06263 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:16:52 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.47]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031015021647.CAYO1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:16:47 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8CAE11.FDA450AE@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:16:49 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: <20031015015538.28762.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > he found a desert > > island and what became of him. > > I love this story. I wish you had found him. I wish I had picked my parents' brains for more details. I remember hearing the story at a very early age -- their friend who moved to a desert island and was never heard from/of again. With more details, I might be able to do research on it now. I know his name, his profession, and the approximate time of his vanishing. Maybe I can find something out. Having messed with genealogy should help me in the project. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 21:27:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F2RlHB012778 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:27:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DB8201E6019E; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:26:42 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AABF31E60136 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:26:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001A587D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:19:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13953923 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:19:53 -0400 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9F2Jra06858 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:19:53 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:19:52 PDT Message-ID: <20031015021952.35586.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:19:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Fake Letters To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F8CA2CB.6000901@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > My husband, a Vietnam vet, is hardly "poor" and > "downtrodden." Thanks for the sentiment, though. > > Neither is my brother, who served in the first war > in Iraq, > a "blue-shirted schmuck." I beg your pardon, Rita, you misunderstand me. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 21:34:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F2YVHB012853 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:34:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AFCDA1E601A2; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:33:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FAFB1E6019E for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:33:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001A594D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:26:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13952927 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:26:38 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9F2Gca06232 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:16:38 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9F2GKI7008986 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:16:20 -0400 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:16:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: condo democracy In-Reply-To: <3F8CAD2E.376CFCAD@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3F8CAD2E.376CFCAD@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Me too. I gather that you are enjoying that way of life, but I would be >out of there in a flash. It is not the way I want to live. You don't >even have control over when to turn on heat or a/c?? Of course I do. That's what I said: "we now have AC AND "supplemental heat" and that the boiler will not be turned back on until we have consistent 30s to low 40s." That's EXACTLY how I want to live - someone else worries about the big stuff like full boiler heat and I adjust the temp. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 21:42:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F2g4HB013033 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:42:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 30D231E6019E; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:40:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01F391E60136 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:40:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A05B5A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:34:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13956041 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:34:10 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9F2YAa08996 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:34:10 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.47]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031015023405.XIPL1828.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:34:05 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8CB21F.A8B76C9A@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:34:07 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: condo democracy References: <3F8CAD2E.376CFCAD@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >Me too. I gather that you are enjoying that way of life, but I would be > >out of there in a flash. It is not the way I want to live. You don't > >even have control over when to turn on heat or a/c?? > > Of course I do. That's what I said: > > "we now have AC AND "supplemental heat" and that the boiler will not be > turned back on until we have consistent 30s to low 40s." > > That's EXACTLY how I want to live - someone else worries about the big > stuff like full boiler heat and I adjust the temp. I must have misunderstood. I thought you said that (your controllers) had turned off the a/c and that people were putting notes up in the elevator grumbling about being hot and saying that it was a health hazard. So what exactly was the health hazard if they had control over their own heating/cooling? Why didn't they just "adjust the temp"? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 21:48:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F2m0HB013135 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:48:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 686E41E601A6; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:46:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35C2C1E601A2 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:46:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A05B5C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:40:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13956316 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:40:07 -0400 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9F2e6a09733 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:40:06 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:40:06 PDT Message-ID: <20031015024006.13766.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:40:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Daisy's Gone To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1e0.11959726.2cbe02e1@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >> > > I don't know if I can believe her, but I know that > Daisy would not run > away. When Daisy pulled me over and I screamed, she > ran straight > for the apartment. She knows that if anything > happens, come straight > home. > > Am I angry? Of course, I am angry; I am also dammed > sad; again, > I lose someone I love. Your mom took Daisy on to begin with, and you were a little nervous, because you are a cat person with little experience of dogs. Daisy was, perhaps, the wrong size dog for your circumstances. You made the best of it, and fell for Daisy (in more ways than one). Maybe your mother was concerned that you would be seriously injured by Daisy. Maybe she just got jealous. We don't know what is in your mom's mind. But the only way NOT to lose someone you love, is not to HAVE someone you love. So make your mom aware of that, next time she wants to gather up a homeless creature. > > Evelyn Duncan > brandykitt@aol.com > Sig under construction __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 22:05:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F35NHB013344 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:05:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DE9F91E6019E; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:04:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACEE41E600B7 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:04:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001A5D3D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:57:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13964089 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:51:43 -0400 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9F2pga12580 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:51:42 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:51:41 PDT Message-ID: <20031015025141.19956.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:51:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Fake Letters To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F8CAE11.FDA450AE@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I wish I had picked my parents' brains for more > details. I remember > hearing the story at a very early age -- their > friend who moved to a > desert island and was never heard from/of again. > With more details, I > might be able to do research on it now. I know his > name, his > profession, and the approximate time of his > vanishing. Maybe I can find > something out. Having messed with genealogy should > help me in the > project. Think of how neat it would be to play the game of "what would you take to a desert island?" with someone who had actually done it! And I'll bet his subsequent history would be fascinating. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 22:05:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F35NHB013347 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:05:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 29F651E601A6; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:04:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEA8D1E600B7 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:04:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001A5D51@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:57:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13956375 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:52:01 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9F2g0a09900 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:42:00 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9F2fhI7014269 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:41:43 -0400 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:42:00 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: condo democracy In-Reply-To: <3F8CB21F.A8B76C9A@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3F8CAD2E.376CFCAD@maynor.net> <3F8CB21F.A8B76C9A@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie, in order for you to understand what I said, you would have to read the entire narrative that I wrote - including the header, I guess (do you get headers?) - and certainly the conclusion. It is certainly true that if you enjoy firing up boilers, you would not want to live here, because you would not get to do that. Actually, except for there being no room service (and the nearest restaurant is across the street), this is rather like living in a hotel - and I have always thought that that was the best possible arrangement. I did it briefly one summer in Springfield, Mo. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 22:14:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F3EoHB013483 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:14:50 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 400431E6019E; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:13:45 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 103CD1E600B7 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:13:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A06193@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:06:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13965631 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:06:56 -0400 Received: from mwsend02la.mail2world.com (mw252.mail2world.com [66.28.189.252]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9F2uua13555 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:56:56 -0400 Received: from mwsend01la.mail2world.com (unverified [10.1.203.17]) by mwsend02la.mail2world.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.5.6) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:56:11 -0700 Received: from mwsmtp03la.mail2world.com (unverified [10.1.202.11]) by mwsend01la.mail2world.com (Vircom SMTPRS 1.4.232) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:56:02 -0700 Received: from mwweb01la (unverified [10.1.2.10]) by mwsmtp03la.mail2world.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.5.6) with ESMTP id ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:56:02 -0700 Received: from [192.116.105.88] by mail2Care.com with HTTP; 10/14/2003 7:56:02 PM PST thread-index: AcOSx94u1locNLAVRUyOXMq85Rv/6Q== Thread-Topic: DR KEVIN OJO From: "kevin ojo" To: Multiple recipients Subject: DR KEVIN OJO Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:56:02 -0700 Message-ID: <55c601c392c7$de2e7680$0a02010a@mail2world.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft CDO for Exchange 2000 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Importance: normal Priority: normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU DEAR SIR, REQUEST FOR BUSINESS PARTNERSHIP INTRODUCTION & BIO ? DATE I am Dr, KEVIN OJO. Chairman, Ministerial Contracts Evaluation and implementation Committee in the Federal Ministry of Aviation. My position is very sensitive. I am married with children and hold degrees in public administration and business studies. I am due for retirement any moment from now, after many years in service. REASON (S) FOR CONTACTING YOU I require urgently, your unreserved assistance in providing me with a safe and reliable bank account with full details VIZ: Name and Address of Bank, Telephone, Telex and Fax Number anywhere in the world where I can transfer the sum of $25.5million United States Dollars only. The purpose of transfer is to take care of my retirement by investing in a viable business you might deem fit to advise. NATURE OF BUSINESS AND SOURCE OF FUND FOR TRANSFER. Since the inception of the present government, series of contracts have been awarded by the Federal Ministry of Aviation based on supplies (AIRPORT NAVIGATIONAL ELECTRONICS) INSTRUMENT LANDING EQUIPMENT (ILE) AND READER EQUIPMENT ? VOR SYSTEM MONITORS ? DISTANCE MEASURING EQUIPMENT (DME)- SECONDARY SURVEILLANCE READER ?(SSR)-INSTALLATION OF ONE UNIT OF INSTRUMENT LANDING SYSTEMS AND READER EQUIPMENT AT ABUJA INT?L AIRPORT) amounting to several million of U.S Dollars. The above sum (US$ 25.5 m) has shown in record as surplus from some of the over- invoiced contracts carried out in the last developmental quarter. Presently, I have arrange for money to be kept in coded bank account with the central Bank of Nigeria until I am able to source for a reliable expatriate partner whom I can present as the rightful beneficiary of the fund. You will take the status of the contractor who executed the contract and I will arrange the supportive documents for the transfer. MODE OF SHARING 25% will go to you for making available to us a company or personal account number, giving me your unreserved assistance and keeping strictly the rules of this transition until transfer of the fund is affected. 5% is for any contingencies and all miscellaneous expenses incurred during the course of the transaction procurement of vital documents, tips and all expenses including phone/fax bills, hotel bills, taxes and bank charges must be reconciled upon confirmation of the payment by Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN), 70% will be shared between me and a few colleagues of mine whose help will be highly needed throughout this period in question. OTHER PERTINENT DETAILS Everything about this transactions real. The money is clean after putting in so many years in service; it is only normal for me to take good measures to secure my period in retirement. I have put in resources and time to bring this transaction to this level, which means that it represents a lot to me, and hopefully with help from you, in just a matter of weeks, it shall come to mean a lot to you too as we meet in your country to celebrate the closing of the deal. Indicate your interest by contacting me on this email adress (kevin_ojo2003@excite.com) Thanking you for your kind understanding and cooperation in anticipation. Yours sincerely, DR KEVIN OJO DR, KEVIN OJO. CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE _______________________________________________________________ Get the FREE email that has everyone talking at http://www.mail2world.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 22:32:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F3WQHB013939 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:32:26 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DA7101E600BE; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:31:20 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAF821E600B7 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:31:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A061CF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:24:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13969271 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:24:31 -0400 Received: from imo-m03.mx.aol.com (imo-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.6]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9F3OUa18051 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:24:30 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.16.3678dd39 (4552) for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:24:11 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <16.3678dd39.2cbe17db@aol.com> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:24:11 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Daisy's Gone To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I hope the new people are good to Daisy and treat her well. She deserves it. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Sig under construction From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 22:38:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F3cEHB014047 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:38:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 595A51E600BE; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:37:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 278EA1E600B7 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:37:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001A611D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:30:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13972518 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:28:09 -0400 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9F3S9a19525 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:28:09 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:28:08 PDT Message-ID: <20031015032808.1239.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:28:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: condo democracy To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Actually, except for there being no room service > (and the nearest > restaurant is across the street), this is rather > like living in a hotel - > and I have always thought that that was the best > possible arrangement. I > did it briefly one summer in Springfield, Mo. I quite agree about living in hotels, except there would have to be a suite of rooms and kitchen access. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 22:39:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F3dxHB014075 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:39:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AF31E1E6019E; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:38:53 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A68A1E600BE for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:38:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001A61BA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:32:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13973700 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:30:57 -0400 Received: from web20509.mail.yahoo.com (web20509.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.144]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9F3Uva20323 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:30:57 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20509.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:30:56 PDT Message-ID: <20031015033056.95911.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:30:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Daisy's Gone To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <16.3678dd39.2cbe17db@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > I hope the new people are good to Daisy and treat > her well. > She deserves it. I'm sure they'll treat her well. She's young enough to make the adjustment to new people; but I know it will be very rough for you the next few days. Chin up! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 22:43:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F3h9HB014159 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:43:09 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 481A01E600BE; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:42:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F6D91E600B7 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:42:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A064D6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:35:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13975359 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:35:15 -0400 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9F3ZFa21453 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:35:15 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.149.1a56a41d (4552) for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:34:53 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <149.1a56a41d.2cbe1a5d@aol.com> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:34:53 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Daisy's Gone To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/14/2003 10:32:19 PM Central Daylight Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << but I know it will be very rough for you the next few days. >> Especially since Mom doesn't want me to even mention Daisy. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Sig under construction From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 22:43:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F3hsHB014167 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:43:54 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EDA4F1E600BE; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:42:48 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF33D1E600B7 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:42:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001A6289@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:36:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13975613 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:35:59 -0400 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9F3Zxa21578 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:35:59 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.198.2112d731 (4552) for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:35:44 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <198.2112d731.2cbe1a90@aol.com> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:35:44 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Daisy's Gone To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sweetie's been looking for Daisy; she keeps meowing and looking around. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Sig under construction From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 22:52:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F3qTHB014301 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:52:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 14EEE1E600BE; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:51:24 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7FCE1E600B7 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:51:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001A63E8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:44:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13978591 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:44:35 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f82.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.82]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9F3iYa23213 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:44:35 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:44:29 -0700 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 03:44:28 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Fake Letters Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:44:28 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2003 03:44:29.0311 (UTC) FILETIME=[A30F40F0:01C392CE] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor >my attitude. The best way to support our troops, imho, is to get rid of >their ridiculous Commander-in-Chief. Uh-oh, here it comes. I feel it coming. There it is: ditto. _________________________________________________________________ Send instant messages to anyone on your contact list with MSN Messenger 6.0. Try it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 14 23:51:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F4p8HB015562 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:51:09 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0B7931E601B0; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:50:03 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE52B1E601AB for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:50:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001A69EE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 0:43:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13988210 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 00:33:06 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9F4LZa29485 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 00:21:35 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9F4LVs5028495 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:21:33 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001b01c392d4$e9e002c0$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: Fake Letters Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:29:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > As JMW has already observed, the draft was instituted in 1940. As you > stated earlier, many "volunteers" joined because they knew they would be > drafted and wished to choose their branch. Whether such voluntarism is in > fact voluntary at all is an interesting question in itself. The point you > make above, however, raises the question why it was that from 1943 to 1945 > it was necessary to draft some 6 million people into service. Surely, > between Dec. 1941 and Jan 1943 there was plenty of time to volunteer. > > http://www.sss.gov/induct.htm > > We know that the rate of conscientious objector claims was quite low during > world war ii compared to Vietnam, but the fact remains that there's quite a > bit of mythologizing about the actual response to the second world war. The > other day, Kentucky's senator McConnell was arguing the importance of > spending the 87 billion dollars in Iraq. One of his arguments was: we > didn't argue about the cost of going to war before entering world war ii. > In fact, that's hogwash. Prior to Pearl Harbor, there was indeed plenty of > arguing in this country about the cost of going to war. Nor did it stop > once we entered. American corporations and unions battled hard during the > war as companies attempted to boost their war profits while controlling > wages. > I wrote some really good responses to all this, read them with satisfaction, and then said "But . . nah" and deleted them. Now I'm going to watch a movie and eat a dish of ice cream. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 02:13:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F7DOHB018708 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 02:13:24 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8D7611E601FB; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 02:12:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A9CA1E601FA for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 02:12:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001A7AF4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 3:05:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14029007 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 03:05:21 -0400 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9F75La27715 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 03:05:21 -0400 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:06:48 +0200 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id SBZZYJY7; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:06:37 +0200 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015090347.00b11cc0@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:04:40 +0200 Subject: Re: Headline-itis In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031014081858.00a6eec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031014145912.01b28f68@localhost> <1c537e1c5b8d.1c5b8d1c537e@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 08:20 14.10.2003 -0700 skrev Betty Clark: >At 03:01 PM 10/14/2003 +0200, Espen Ore wrote: >>08:37 14.10.2003 -0400 skrev Marie Ascher: >>>> >You must work on your mental imagery! Picture Boo and JMW going >>>> round>and round and round in a polka with AnnBork. >>>> >>>> ...or the three of them in tutus, doing Swan Lake. >>>> >>>> cwv >>> >>>I take it the image of me in a tutu isn't considered as funny? >> >>Even I am not a librarian I work at least in a library, and I have at >>least appeared in public in tights. And if not a polka I have danced a >>Wienerwaltz on Norwegian TV almost 40 years ago. >> >>Espen > >I printed the tutu photo of you. Have you showed Ingried? Did I spell her >name correctly? I don't want Karen yelling at me. Yes, I have shown it to Ingjerd. (But Ingried was a good try!) Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 02:25:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9F7PvHB019004 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 02:25:57 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7CA371E601FA; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 02:24:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DA391E601F9 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 02:24:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A07FBD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 3:18:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14029244 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 03:18:02 -0400 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9F7I1a28634 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 03:18:01 -0400 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:19:28 +0200 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id SBZZYJ6T; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:19:16 +0200 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015091656.01c57ba8@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:17:16 +0200 Subject: Re: (Fwd) London In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031014190702.00b5d230@pop.gwi.net> References: <3F8C44AD.18575.1237236@localhost> <3F8C7978.A76869DC@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 19:08 14.10.2003 -0400 skrev clyde w. voigtlander: >At 06:47 PM 10/14/2003 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: > >>Well, cabs in most cities I've seen are just ordinary cars of >>various sizes and styles. Usually not tiny cars (well in Paris they >>often are), but still just normal ones. NYC used to have Checkers, >>but they've gone and the taxis are just like the ones in Toronto or >>LA except that they're NYC Yellow. >> >>London cabs are unique - those big black things with huge space in >>the back (a bench seat for three, plus space for lots of luggage or >>two more flip-down seats plus some luggage). If you don't think >>London cabs are unique, I think you must've been in something else. > >It was years ago now, but in Karlsruhe, the taxicabs were Mercedes (as were >the small buses at the Kernforschungcentrum). Most taxis here are Mercedes. 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239932 F38EF7C-E32B684-2719A47D-329600D-79B41374 1621326583 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 05:57:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FAvwHB023088 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 05:57:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8A0581E60208; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 05:56:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B69B1E601BF for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 05:56:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A081B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 6:50:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14034432 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:50:01 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FAo1a11530 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:50:01 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.128.20]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031015104956.KCL21489.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:49:56 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8D2656.B541EFB8@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 05:49:58 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: WWII Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Here's what my uncle said in reply to my question about volunteering in WWII. The gist is that it was a combination of considering the war necessary and volunteering in order to get one's choice of branch. Excerpts (rather than the whole thing since it's long, including talking about war movies, friends, etc.): > I think first of all, we all considered it a necessary war, and also at that > time in our history it never occurred to us to question > the wisdom of the government. If it said Go to War, that is what we did > without a thought. In WW1 it was even more rigid. ... > Point 2. ... we did volunteer to get into the service > you preferred. It was not that we hoped by volunteering > etc, it was a fact. I volunteered to the Army Air Corps and was accepted. I > wanted to join the Air Corps and knew if I didn't > volunteer I would be drafted shortly afterwards and sent to the Army, which > was an entirely different life. Terrible. The Air Force > was dangerous, very few were finishing their missions, but it was clean, > dropping bombs was an abstraction, you didn't see the > wounded who were taken from the plane-- if you got back-- and put into an > ambulance and taken to a hospital at another base. All you > noticed was fewer people at the club that night. > By the Korean war we were not gung ho to fight for our country. Korea where? > Why? > But I went without a question. I did refuse to fly and was put in PsyWar > which gave me Georgetown Grad school, Libya, Voice of > America in Munich... all great experiences ... > By Vietnam the attitude had changed > considerably. A friend at dinner the other night > confided that he knew I would not approve but that he had got out of the > Vietnam war by saying he was gay. I told him I did not > disapprove at all. If I had had a son I would have done anything to keep him > from going to that useless, brutal war. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 06:02:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FB2xHB023208 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:02:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3AF6C1E60204; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:01:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D0911E601BF for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:01:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A081BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 6:55:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14034524 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:55:02 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FAt2a11933 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:55:02 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.128.20]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031015105457.LFP21489.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:54:57 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8D2782.42CD461C@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 05:54:58 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: condo democracy References: <3F8CAD2E.376CFCAD@maynor.net> <3F8CB21F.A8B76C9A@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > Natalie, in order for you to understand what I said, you would have to > read the entire narrative that I wrote - including the header, I guess > (do you get headers?) - and certainly the conclusion. I did read it all. In fact, I think I still have a copy. I remembered it as saying that people were sticking notes on the elevator about being hot, which certainly sounds to me as if they were not able to "adjust the temp" themselves. > It is certainly true that if you enjoy firing up boilers, you would not > want to live here, because you would not get to do that. I must confess that I have no idea what a boiler is. When I get cold, which I did a couple of weeks ago -- the weather pattern you described is what we also had -- unusually cold weather for the time of year followed by a return to hot weather, I simply stood there in my hall and switched the magic device to "heat." I then chose an appropriate number on the magic device, a number representing my desired temperature. And that was that. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 06:06:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FB6bHB023275 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:06:37 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8B1051E601C4; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:05:29 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B6121E6020A for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:05:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0819F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 6:58:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14034590 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:58:40 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FAwea12222 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:58:40 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.128.20]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031015105835.MCB21489.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:58:35 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8D285D.C8E1446B@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 05:58:37 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: condo democracy References: <20031015032808.1239.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > I quite agree about living in hotels, except there > would have to be a suite of rooms and kitchen access. I adored the hotel used by ADS (American Dialect Society) at MLA in Chicago back whenever it was that I walked through snow flurries and used some kind of computer access provided by Tushykins. The hotel had been apartments previously -- all rooms were suites. I kept thinking that I would love to live there. As I've said many times before, I would much prefer to rent an apartment instead of own a house if renting were financially wise and if I didn't have a dog. (But my experience in apartment life has always included having control over my own heating/cooling -- even in Japan, where the heating system was way weird to me.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 06:07:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FB7ZHB023278 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:07:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0C8FE1E6020B; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:06:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2FBE1E6020A for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:06:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001A7D18@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 6:59:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14034628 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:59:38 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FAxZa12316 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:59:35 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.128.20]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031015105930.MIC21489.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:59:30 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8D2894.44C5F276@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 05:59:32 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Daisy's Gone References: <20031015024006.13766.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > But the only way NOT to lose someone you love, is not > to HAVE someone you love. So make your mom aware of > that, next time she wants to gather up a homeless > creature. Well said. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 06:08:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FB8JHB023283 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:08:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2C5871E6020C; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:07:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2FE91E6020B for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:07:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A081C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 7:00:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14034637 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:00:22 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FB0Ma15278 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:00:22 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.128.20]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031015110016.MNQ21489.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:00:16 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8D28C2.D8328A1C@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:00:18 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Daisy's Gone References: <16.3678dd39.2cbe17db@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > > I hope the new people are good to Daisy and treat her well. > She deserves it. Who are the people? Do you know much about them? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 06:09:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FB9XHB023286 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:09:33 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1539A1E6020B; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:08:25 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9B681E6020A for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:08:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001A7D07@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 7:01:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14034654 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:01:36 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FB1aa30845 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:01:36 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.128.20]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031015110131.MWM21489.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:01:31 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8D290C.728EFE84@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:01:32 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen wrote: > >my attitude. The best way to support our troops, imho, is to get rid of > >their ridiculous Commander-in-Chief. > > Uh-oh, here it comes. I feel it coming. There it is: ditto. ? What's coming? And what does ditto mean (in this context)? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 06:10:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FBATHB023300 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:10:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C024B1E6020A; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:09:20 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 920B61E60209 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:09:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A081AA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 7:02:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14034708 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:02:32 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FB2Va31788 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:02:31 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.128.20]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031015110226.NDG21489.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:02:26 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8D2944.2568C469@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:02:28 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: <001b01c392d4$e9e002c0$facadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > I wrote some really good responses to all > this, read them with satisfaction, and then > said "But . . nah" and deleted them. Why? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 06:26:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FBQFHB023638 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:26:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3CEFC1E60209; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:25:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F5EA1E601C4 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:25:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A081C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 7:18:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14034971 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:18:18 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FBIGa00609 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:18:16 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.128.20]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031015111811.IQYT1826.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:18:11 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8D2CF5.769EE443@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:18:13 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Local (state) Politics Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I hate that I couldn't find this debate anywhere on my electric teevee last night. Sounds as if it included quite a bit of : "Things got ugly at an already rowdy gubernatorial debate Tuesday night when Republican Haley Barbour scolded Democratic Gov. Ronnie Musgrove for airing a television ad which accuses Barbour of 'helping poison our children.' ... "The hourlong event, sponsored by WABG-TV and The Delta Business Journal, was marred by an outburst from Green Party gubernatorial candidate Sherman Lee Dillon, who had to be taken away by security after he bounded on the stage and demanded to be part of the event." from: http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0310/15/ma02.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 06:53:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FBrpHB024219 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:53:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 294F11E601C6; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:52:43 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBAA21E60105 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:52:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A08208@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 7:45:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14035653 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:45:54 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FBjsa04330 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:45:54 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-154-174.gwi.net [216.195.154.174]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9FBjqQU022737 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:45:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015074512.00b24448@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:45:55 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: condo democracy In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Then this week I had a lesson in condo democracy. The way these buildings >are built, either the AC can be on or the full-dress boiler heat can be on >- not both at the same time. We had a cool spell about two weeks ago, and >management turned off the AC and turned on boiler heat. Big mistake! >Bethany That would be a deal breaker for me. I won't even rent a motel room where I can't control the temperature in my room. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 06:59:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FBxFHB024314 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:59:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8E1E81E601C6; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:58:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 605DE1E60105 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:58:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A08224@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 7:51:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14035875 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:51:17 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FBpHa05025 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:51:17 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-154-174.gwi.net [216.195.154.174]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9FBpGQU023296 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:51:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015075040.00b7f6d0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:51:18 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Daisy's Gone In-Reply-To: <16.3678dd39.2cbe17db@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I hope the new people are good to Daisy and treat her well. >She deserves it. --Evelyn Duncan And you deserve to be shit upon? Why don't you find out who the new family is and go check up on her? bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 07:00:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FC02HB024337 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:00:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0913A1E601C6; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:58:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF7DF1E60105 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:58:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001A7D72@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 7:52:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14035894 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:52:05 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FBq5a05100 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:52:05 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-154-174.gwi.net [216.195.154.174]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9FBq3Yp047707 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:52:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015075141.00b3a990@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:52:06 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Daisy's Gone In-Reply-To: <20031015033056.95911.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> References: <16.3678dd39.2cbe17db@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I'm sure they'll treat her well. She's young enough >to make the adjustment to new people; How the hell can you be sure of that? This entire topic disgusts me. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 07:05:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FC5lHB024415 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:05:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5C4D61E6020D; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:04:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D07F1E60105 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:04:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A08240@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 7:57:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14036027 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:57:49 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FBvna05542 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:57:49 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-154-174.gwi.net [216.195.154.174]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9FBvlQU023978 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:57:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015075646.00b31060@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:57:50 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Local (state) Politics In-Reply-To: <3F8D2CF5.769EE443@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > marred by an outburst from Green Party gubernatorial >candidate Sherman Lee Dillon, who had to be taken away by security after >he bounded on the stage and demanded to be part of the event." > >from: http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0310/15/ma02.html > -- Natalie Did anyone then throw him to the ground? I saw the clip where the 72-year-old baseball coach got thrown to the ground. Wow. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 07:11:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FCBeHB024513 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:11:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C444D1E601C6; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:10:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91A4F1E60105 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:10:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A08245@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 8:03:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14036230 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:03:43 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FC3ha06202 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:03:43 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001A7D91@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 8:03:42 -0400 Message-Id: <200310151203.h9FC3ha06202@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:03:42 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Guardian/Observer: 100 Greatest Novels of All Time To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:38:17 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >bonniev wrote: > >> The column has already made the rounds of the Maine newspapers. King is >> laughing all the way to the bank. He and his whole family will be at the > >I also found this when I googled for the Bloom column -- I plan to stick >it to the mailroom door tomorrow: > >http://www.mobylives.com/Almond_Bloom.html > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Here's what I have to say about Bloom: he is exactly the same kind of judgmental spectator as the average schmoe that sits in the audience at a talk show or Regis. I can hear commentary that is just as prejudiced and shortsighted in any laundromat or bus stop. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 07:31:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FCVoHB024953 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:31:50 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CFD011E601C6; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:30:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A13661E60105 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:30:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A082D8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 8:23:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14036722 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:23:53 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FCDra07849 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:13:53 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9FCDZI7021420 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:13:35 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:13:52 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: condo democracy In-Reply-To: <20031015032808.1239.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031015032808.1239.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >I quite agree about living in hotels, except there >would have to be a suite of rooms and kitchen access. Which, as it happens, I have! (2 kitchens) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 07:33:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FCXhHB024967 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:33:43 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D984A1E601C7; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:32:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A81201E601C6 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:32:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001A7E06@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 8:25:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14036961 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:25:45 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FCFia08465 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:15:44 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9FCFRI7022171 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:15:27 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:15:44 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: condo democracy In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015074512.00b24448@pop.gwi.net> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015074512.00b24448@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bonne and Natalie missed the whole point. A decision was made - it was unpopular - it was immediately reversed. Hence my header: condo democracy. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 07:35:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FCZFHB024988 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:35:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4F9BD1E601CC; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:34:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20F381E601CB for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:34:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001A7E03@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 8:27:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14037034 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:27:17 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FCHHa08636 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:17:17 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9FCGxI7022865 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:16:59 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:17:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Daisy's Gone In-Reply-To: <149.1a56a41d.2cbe1a5d@aol.com> Message-ID: References: <149.1a56a41d.2cbe1a5d@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Evelyn Duncan wrote: >Especially since Mom doesn't want me to even mention >Daisy. ! Does Mom make the discourse rules in the household??? If so, feel free to rant here. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 07:43:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FChWHB025207 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:43:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 27A321E601CB; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:41:15 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDF1A1E601CA for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:41:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A082FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 8:34:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14038062 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:34:26 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FCYQa12052 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:34:26 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-154-174.gwi.net [216.195.154.174]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9FCYOYp053476 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:34:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015083208.00b346b0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:34:27 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: condo democracy In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015074512.00b24448@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015074512.00b24448@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Bonne and Natalie missed the whole point. A decision was made - it was >unpopular - it was immediately reversed. Hence my header: condo democracy. >Bethany No, Bethany. I didn't miss your point. I understand that you are happy with your condo. I understand that you are glad you don't have to deal with boiler issues. I understand that you are pleased that notes on a bulletin board quickly effected a change in decision. But my point is that I wouldn't want to have to live in a place where I was dependent on others and a vote about when to switch from AC to heat each Spring and Fall. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 07:43:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FChdHB025230 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:43:39 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 140CF1E6007C; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:42:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D989F1E60068 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:42:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A0830F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 8:35:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14038124 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:35:32 -0400 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FCZWa12245 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:35:32 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.9f.3ee8b44b (4539) for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:35:21 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <9f.3ee8b44b.2cbe9908@aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:35:20 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Daisy's Gone To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/15/2003 6:51:27 AM Central Daylight Time, bonniev@GWI.NET writes: << >I hope the new people are good to Daisy and treat her well. >She deserves it. --Evelyn Duncan And you deserve to be shit upon? Why don't you find out who the new family is and go check up on her? >> I wish I had been here to question the man when he came here. I would have asked for references and asked him questions about his family and home. All I can get from Mom is that he seemed nice and that Daisy was "killing her." She doesn't even want me to mention Daisy. The only people Mom gave her name and phone number to was the people of her church and a nearby Bible college. AND DON'T YOU THINK THIS IS HARD FOR ME??????????? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Sig under construction From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 07:44:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FCicHB025247 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:44:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C21FD1E6007C; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:43:29 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94C781E60068 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:43:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A08305@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 8:36:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14038185 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:36:41 -0400 Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FCafa12424 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:36:41 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.193.21192fa8 (4539) for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:36:33 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <193.21192fa8.2cbe9951@aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:36:33 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Daisy's Gone To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/15/2003 6:00:37 AM Central Daylight Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << Who are the people? Do you know much about them? >> I don't know anything about them. Mom handled it all while I was at work. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Sig under construction From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 07:52:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FCqNHB025360 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:52:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1F4DA1E6007C; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:51:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E28841E60068 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:51:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0832C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 8:44:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14038574 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:44:25 -0400 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FCiPa14332 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:44:25 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.5b.3ff203aa (4539) for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:44:01 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <5b.3ff203aa.2cbe9b11@aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:44:01 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Daisy's Gone To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/15/2003 7:27:24 AM Central Daylight Time, dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes: << ! Does Mom make the discourse rules in the household??? If so, feel free to rant here. >> Well, since there's just Mom and me, it's kind of hard to make conversation if she doesn't want to talk. I can talk to Sweetie about it; she spent last night looking for Daisy. But, with the way Mom is, if she doesn't want to talk about something, she won't. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Sig under construction From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 08:06:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FD60HB025575 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:06:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2F0811E60105; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:04:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00ED11E60068 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:04:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A083B4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 8:58:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14038868 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:58:00 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FClka15062 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:47:46 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9FClSI7031684 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:47:28 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:47:45 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: condo democracy In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015083208.00b346b0@pop.gwi.net> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015074512.00b24448@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015074512.00b24448@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015083208.00b346b0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, bonniev wrote: >No, Bethany. I didn't miss your point. I understand that you are happy >with your condo. I understand that you are glad you don't have to deal >with boiler issues. I understand that you are pleased that notes on a >bulletin board quickly effected a change in decision. But my point is that >I wouldn't want to have to live in a place where I was dependent on others >and a vote about when to switch from AC to heat each Spring and Fall. Good - I am glad you got the point. We have a very different perspective, I guess - your see dependency where I see effective participatory democracy within a community. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 08:07:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FD7wHB025582 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:07:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 62CF51E60105; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:06:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30FD81E60068 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:06:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001A7EE2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 9:00:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14039174 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:00:00 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FCo0a15664 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:50:00 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9FCngI7032257 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:49:42 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:49:59 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Daisy's Gone In-Reply-To: <5b.3ff203aa.2cbe9b11@aol.com> Message-ID: References: <5b.3ff203aa.2cbe9b11@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Evelyn Duncan wrote: >Well, since there's just Mom and me, it's kind of hard to >make conversation if she doesn't want to talk. I can talk >to Sweetie about it; she spent last night looking for Daisy. >But, with the way Mom is, if she doesn't want to talk about >something, she won't. Fine. But you can. I often find it helpful to say out loud to someone what I am thinking/feeling - even if they could not care less. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 08:24:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FDOJHB025860 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:24:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EC5ED1E601CA; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:23:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA84A1E601C9 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:23:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001A7F69@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 9:16:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14041090 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:16:21 -0400 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FDGLa21038 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:16:21 -0400 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA104578 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:16:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Daisy's Gone Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:16:20 -0400 Message-ID: <001a01c3931e$86645490$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <1de.11004757.2cbdc0eb@aol.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Evelyn Duncan >Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 5:13 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Daisy's Gone > > >Mom gave her away today. > >Evelyn Duncan >brandykitt@aol.com > Good news! alec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 08:26:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FDQ5HB025905 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:26:05 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4E9A61E601CA; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:24:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20D501E60105 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:24:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A08439@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 9:18:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14041190 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:18:07 -0400 Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FDI7a21344 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:18:07 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.48.237c7b93 (3890) for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:17:59 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <48.237c7b93.2cbea307@aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:17:59 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Daisy's Gone To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/15/2003 8:00:19 AM Central Daylight Time, dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes: << Fine. But you can. I often find it helpful to say out loud to someone what I am thinking/feeling - even if they could not care less. >> I told Mom I wanted to find out if Daisy's gone to a good home, and she yelled, "Daisy was killing me! You and Tom want to kill me!" Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Sig under construction From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 08:33:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FDXpHB026036 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:33:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9AC701E601CC; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:32:42 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C04B1E601CB for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:32:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A08479@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 9:25:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14041896 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:25:53 -0400 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FDPra23281 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:25:53 -0400 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53DE9663 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:25:53 -0400 (EDT) From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Daisy's Gone Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:25:53 -0400 Message-ID: <002f01c3931f$dbacccb0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <48.237c7b93.2cbea307@aol.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Evelyn Duncan >Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 9:18 AM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Daisy's Gone > > >In a message dated 10/15/2003 8:00:19 AM Central Daylight Time, >dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes: ><< >Fine. But you can. I often find it helpful to say out loud to someone >what I am thinking/feeling - even if they could not care less. >>> > >I told Mom I wanted to find out if Daisy's gone to a good home, and >she yelled, "Daisy was killing me! You and Tom want to kill me!" > >Evelyn Duncan >brandykitt@aol.com >Sig under construction > This soap opera is better and better. alec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 08:41:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FDfrHB026170 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:41:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BA1021E601CB; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:40:43 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C88C1E601CA for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:40:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A084BC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 9:33:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14042682 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:33:55 -0400 Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com (imo-r06.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.102]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FDXsa25333 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:33:54 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.16.367e6403 (3657) for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:33:42 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <16.367e6403.2cbea6b6@aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:33:42 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Daisy's Gone To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/15/2003 8:26:07 AM Central Daylight Time, plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU writes: << This soap opera is better and better. >> You would reduce what's happened to the status of a soap opera? I expected better from you. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Sig under construction From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 08:43:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FDhsHB026217 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:43:54 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 16D871E601CB; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:42:45 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD5F41E601CA for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:42:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A084CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 9:35:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14042823 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:35:56 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FDZua25918 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:35:56 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-154-174.gwi.net [216.195.154.174]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9FDZsQU036083 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:35:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015093458.00ba0498@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:35:57 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Daisy's Gone In-Reply-To: <9f.3ee8b44b.2cbe9908@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >The only people Mom gave her name and phone number to was >the people of her church and a nearby Bible college. So can you get it from them? >AND DON'T YOU THINK THIS IS HARD FOR ME??????????? >Evelyn Duncan Yes, I do. If I were you, I'd take my cat and move out. Your mother has no consideration for you. Let her survive on her own. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 08:45:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FDjYHB026255 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:45:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 77A0E1E601CA; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:44:25 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 458B81E60105 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:44:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A084FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 9:37:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14042969 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:37:36 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FDbaa26361 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:37:36 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-154-174.gwi.net [216.195.154.174]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9FDbZQU036336 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:37:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015093650.00ba0708@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:37:38 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Daisy's Gone In-Reply-To: <48.237c7b93.2cbea307@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I told Mom I wanted to find out if Daisy's gone to a good home, and >she yelled, "Daisy was killing me! You and Tom want to kill me!" >Evelyn Duncan Answer: "No, Mom, we don't want to kill you. But we do want to see you in assisted care where you can get the help you need." bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 08:53:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FDrGHB026426 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:53:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B23C81E601B9; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:52:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 848191E600F7 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:52:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A08531@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 9:45:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14043610 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:45:18 -0400 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FDjHa28070 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:45:17 -0400 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <49L0VG9Q>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:46:44 +0200 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 49L0VG93; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:46:34 +0200 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015154423.0334b5e0@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:44:36 +0200 Subject: Re: Daisy's Gone In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015093650.00ba0708@pop.gwi.net> References: <48.237c7b93.2cbea307@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 09:37 15.10.2003 -0400 skrev bonniev: >>I told Mom I wanted to find out if Daisy's gone to a good home, and >>she yelled, "Daisy was killing me! You and Tom want to kill me!" >>Evelyn Duncan > >Answer: "No, Mom, we don't want to kill you. But we do want to see you in >assisted care where you can get the help you need." I belive this calls for a ditto. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 08:59:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FDx6HB026497 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:59:06 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F30121E600F7; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:57:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0CE51E601CA for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:57:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0857C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 9:51:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14044522 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:51:03 -0400 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9FDp3a30474 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:51:03 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:51:02 PDT Message-ID: <20031015135102.94117.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:51:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Daisy's Gone To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015075141.00b3a990@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: > >I'm sure they'll treat her well. She's young > enough > >to make the adjustment to new people; > > How the hell can you be sure of that? This entire > topic disgusts me. > > > bonnie Because dogs, especially young dogs, do adjust. It's people who do not. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 09:06:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FE6sHB026756 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:06:54 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 69AAB1E601CA; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:04:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3921E1E600F7 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:04:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A085AD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 9:57:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14045087 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:57:19 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9FDvJa32080 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:57:19 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:57:19 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:53:45 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Under God Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h9FE6sHB026756 I have one (asked in a loud voice): What the HELL is so funny about anger? BrP >>> meeberphobia@HOTMAIL.COM 10/14/03 08:49PM >>> Draft questions for Lewis Black. Suggestions welcome. 1. Who would you rather date, Ann Coulter or Greta Van Susteren? [Coulter has recently become an apologist for Joe McCarthy, and Van Susteren's father was McCarthy's campaign manager back in 1946, which was before he was removed from the bench and jailed for failing to pay his taxes]. 2. Which is a more important influence on your style of angry commentary, the Old Testament prophets or Andy Rooney? 3. As you come into town, you'll see signs indicating that Louisville is now the nation's sixteenth largest city. Does size matter? 4. In Kentucky, sins like horse racing, tobacco, and bourbon are big business. That makes sin taxes unpopular in Kentucky. If you were going to levy a tax on just one virtue, which one would you choose? (faith, hope, charity, fortitude, justice, temperance, prudence). 5. What else could Kentucky tax to get out of its fiscal deficit? 6. We now have a pretty good idea why Rush Limbaugh was constantly getting things wrong. In the aftermath of his drug scandal, don't you think it would be in the public interest to require all television and radio commentators to undergo random drug testing? 7. Would you pass? 8. Have you ever considered using a white tiger in your act? 9. If Arnold Schwarzenegger asks you to serve on his transition team, what advice will you give him? 10. There are a few internet folks pushing a campaign to draft you for a presidential run. If you run, which party will you represent, and who will you choose as your running mate? _________________________________________________________________ Enjoy MSN 8 patented spam control and more with MSN 8 Dial-up Internet Service. Try it FREE for one month! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 09:12:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FECGHB026840 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:12:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 71A831E601CD; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:11:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4034D1E601CA for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:11:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A0860D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:04:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14045862 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:04:18 -0400 Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FE4Ia01632 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:04:18 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.12b.33156ab2 (3980) for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:04:06 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <12b.33156ab2.2cbeadd4@aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:04:04 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Daisy's Gone To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/15/2003 8:36:36 AM Central Daylight Time, bonniev@GWI.NET writes: << Yes, I do. If I were you, I'd take my cat and move out. Your mother has no consideration for you. Let her survive on her own. >> I can't abandon her like that. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Sig under construction From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 09:23:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FENlHB027156 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:23:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 17C891E601CD; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:22:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D801E601CA for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:22:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A08661@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:15:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14046900 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:15:49 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f108.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.108]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FEFfa04228 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:15:41 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:15:35 -0700 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:15:35 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Under God Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:15:35 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2003 14:15:35.0906 (UTC) FILETIME=[CD4F1C20:01C39326] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Okay, I'll add that one as well. Thanks. >From: Paul Barfoot >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Under God >Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:53:45 -0400 > >I have one (asked in a loud voice): > > What the HELL is so funny about anger? > > >BrP > > > > > > > >>> meeberphobia@HOTMAIL.COM 10/14/03 08:49PM >>> >Draft questions for Lewis Black. Suggestions welcome. > >1. Who would you rather date, Ann Coulter or Greta Van Susteren? [Coulter >has recently become an apologist for Joe McCarthy, and Van Susteren's >father >was McCarthy's campaign manager back in 1946, which was before he was >removed from the bench and jailed for failing to pay his taxes]. > >2. Which is a more important influence on your style of angry commentary, >the Old Testament prophets or Andy Rooney? > >3. As you come into town, you'll see signs indicating that Louisville is >now >the nation's sixteenth largest city. Does size matter? > >4. In Kentucky, sins like horse racing, tobacco, and bourbon are big >business. That makes sin taxes unpopular in Kentucky. If you were going to >levy a tax on just one virtue, which one would you choose? (faith, hope, >charity, fortitude, justice, temperance, prudence). > >5. What else could Kentucky tax to get out of its fiscal deficit? > >6. We now have a pretty good idea why Rush Limbaugh was constantly getting >things wrong. In the aftermath of his drug scandal, don't you think it >would be in the public interest to require all television and radio >commentators to undergo random drug testing? > >7. Would you pass? > >8. Have you ever considered using a white tiger in your act? > >9. If Arnold Schwarzenegger asks you to serve on his transition team, what >advice will you give him? > >10. There are a few internet folks pushing a campaign to draft you for a >presidential run. If you run, which party will you represent, and who will >you choose as your running mate? > >_________________________________________________________________ >Enjoy MSN 8 patented spam control and more with MSN 8 Dial-up Internet >Service. Try it FREE for one month! >http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup _________________________________________________________________ Enjoy MSN 8 patented spam control and more with MSN 8 Dial-up Internet Service. 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From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 09:38:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FEcwHB027477 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:38:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6CFC31E601CE; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:37:48 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BAFD1E601C8 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:37:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A086F6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:30:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14048511 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:30:52 -0400 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9FEUpa08427 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:30:51 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:30:46 PDT Message-ID: <20031015143046.6710.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:30:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Fake Letters To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <001b01c392d4$e9e002c0$facadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > > I wrote some really good responses to all > this, read them with satisfaction, and then > said "But . . nah" and deleted them. > > Now I'm going to watch a movie and eat > a dish of ice cream. This set of procedures should be adopted by all world leaders, immediately. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 10:01:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FF1cHB028019 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:01:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 915A11E6020D; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:00:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D7CC1E601D2 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:00:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A087EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:53:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14050553 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:53:39 -0400 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9FErca13260 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:53:39 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:53:36 PDT Message-ID: <20031015145336.70992.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:53:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Daisy's Gone To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <12b.33156ab2.2cbeadd4@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Yes, I do. If I were you, I'd take my cat and move > out. Your mother has > no consideration for you. Let her survive on her > own. > >> > > I can't abandon her like that. This is probably a good juncture at which to call Tom. He needs to know what the situation is in any case. You might ask for his advice in handling things, and that would give you the opportunity to lay everything out for him. Just a suggestion. After all, this is your life we're talking about, NOT a soap opera. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 10:05:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FF5QHB028095 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:05:26 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B845B1E6020D; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:04:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84FBE1E601D2 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:04:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001A831E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:57:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14050785 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:57:27 -0400 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9FEvRa13914 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:57:27 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:57:26 PDT Message-ID: <20031015145726.96248.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:57:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Rid yourself of those fantasies To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031015072637.00a7a460@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Betty wrote: > http://www.deansplanet.com/nomakeup.html > > Celebs without make up. How the devil did Howard Stern get in here? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 10:11:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FFBJHB028204 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:11:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3CA361E6020E; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:10:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2D381E6020D for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:10:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0883A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:03:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14051469 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:03:20 -0400 Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FF3Ja15460 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:03:20 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.aa.2396fe11 (4459) for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:02:40 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:02:39 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Daisy's Gone To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/15/2003 9:54:09 AM Central Daylight Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << This is probably a good juncture at which to call Tom. >> I'm going to call him tonight after he gets home from work. He can take Mom to her doctor and get her evaluated for Alzheimer's. You know, this is the first time I have cried in over 4 years, since Brandy died. I know it's not a soap opera; that's why Alec's remarks have angered me. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Sig under construction From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 10:26:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FFQuHB028551 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:26:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5C1901E601D8; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:25:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 219791E601D5 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:25:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A08926@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:18:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14053389 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:18:57 -0400 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FFIva19543 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:18:57 -0400 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F06C8A for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:18:57 -0400 (EDT) From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Daisy's Gone Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:18:57 -0400 Message-ID: <003f01c3932f$a77a4520$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id h9FFIva19544 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Evelyn Duncan >Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 11:03 AM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Daisy's Gone > > >In a message dated 10/15/2003 9:54:09 AM Central Daylight Time, >lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: ><< >This is probably a good juncture at which to call Tom. >>> > >I'm going to call him tonight after he gets home from work. >He can take Mom to her doctor and get her evaluated for >Alzheimer's. > >You know, this is the first time I have cried in over 4 years, >since Brandy died. > >I know it's not a soap opera; that's why Alec's remarks have >angered me. > >Evelyn Duncan >brandykitt@aol.com >Sig under construction > The reason I said it is like a soap opera were: You get a dog you can't afford or handle. Your mom is getting older and I would does not need the added stress. You fight with your family members. It is a combanation of All My Children and Days of Our Lives. Many words-l people's lives are like a soap opera. I am not saying my life is any different. alec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 10:37:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FFb5HB028826 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:37:05 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 34F101E6020D; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:35:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0662E1E601DC for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:35:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0897A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:29:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14054503 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:29:05 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FFT2a22215 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:29:02 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 851C12B8CB; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:29:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A1982B61A for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:29:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:29:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters In-Reply-To: <3F8D290C.728EFE84@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Marty Rosen wrote: > > >their ridiculous Commander-in-Chief. > > Uh-oh, here it comes. I feel it coming. There it is: ditto. > ? What's coming? And what does ditto mean (in this context)? Marty felt himself about to cough up a hairball: the dull and hackneyed, overused response "ditto." Marty made an original joke which I found funny. THANK GOD FOR MARTY. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 10:37:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FFbjHB028833 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:37:45 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B045D1E6020E; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:36:35 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81E161E6020D for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:36:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A08980@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:29:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14054566 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:29:46 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FFTja22363 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:29:45 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 20AE92B56F; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:29:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FE782B8F8 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:29:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:29:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Daisy's Gone In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > > Fine. But you can. I often find it helpful to say out loud to someone > what I am thinking/feeling - even if they could not care less. A glimpse into Bethany's discourse rules . . . Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 10:38:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FFcjHB028854 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:38:45 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 817C81E601DC; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:37:35 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 520E41E601D8 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:37:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A089A5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:30:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14054632 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:30:32 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f40.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FFUVa22549 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:30:31 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:30:25 -0700 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:30:25 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: what so funny about anger Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:30:25 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2003 15:30:25.0759 (UTC) FILETIME=[41784EF0:01C39331] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ruthless Interrogator: Nick Lowe asked the musical question, "What's so funny about peace, love, and understanding?" Now I'm asking you, what's so funny about anger? Lewis Black: [this isn't verbatim, because I'm not playing the tape back until I get around to keying in the whole transcript, but it's general sense]: It's not the anger that's funny, it's the frustration that leads to the anger. People walk around being nice to each other all day, and the frustration builds up. My act is about the cathartic venting of that frustration. On the subject of whether he'd rather date Coulter or Van Susteren, it turns out it was a good question; he was just on tv last night with Coulter. He gave a two part answer, the first part of which was: I'd rather date Coulter, if I could get her to shut up. This concludes the exclusive words-l preview. For the rest, you'll have to wait until the C-J version appears, at which time I'll post the entire transcript. >From: Marty Rosen >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Under God >Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:15:35 -0400 > >Okay, I'll add that one as well. Thanks. > > >>From: Paul Barfoot >>Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >>To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>Subject: Re: Under God >>Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:53:45 -0400 >> >>I have one (asked in a loud voice): >> >> What the HELL is so funny about anger? >> >> >>BrP >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> meeberphobia@HOTMAIL.COM 10/14/03 08:49PM >>> >>Draft questions for Lewis Black. Suggestions welcome. >> >>1. Who would you rather date, Ann Coulter or Greta Van Susteren? >>[Coulter >>has recently become an apologist for Joe McCarthy, and Van Susteren's >>father >>was McCarthy's campaign manager back in 1946, which was before he was >>removed from the bench and jailed for failing to pay his taxes]. >> >>2. Which is a more important influence on your style of angry commentary, >>the Old Testament prophets or Andy Rooney? >> >>3. As you come into town, you'll see signs indicating that Louisville is >>now >>the nation's sixteenth largest city. Does size matter? >> >>4. In Kentucky, sins like horse racing, tobacco, and bourbon are big >>business. That makes sin taxes unpopular in Kentucky. If you were going >>to >>levy a tax on just one virtue, which one would you choose? (faith, hope, >>charity, fortitude, justice, temperance, prudence). >> >>5. What else could Kentucky tax to get out of its fiscal deficit? >> >>6. We now have a pretty good idea why Rush Limbaugh was constantly getting >>things wrong. In the aftermath of his drug scandal, don't you think it >>would be in the public interest to require all television and radio >>commentators to undergo random drug testing? >> >>7. Would you pass? >> >>8. Have you ever considered using a white tiger in your act? >> >>9. If Arnold Schwarzenegger asks you to serve on his transition team, what >>advice will you give him? >> >>10. There are a few internet folks pushing a campaign to draft you for a >>presidential run. If you run, which party will you represent, and who >>will >>you choose as your running mate? >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Enjoy MSN 8 patented spam control and more with MSN 8 Dial-up Internet >>Service. 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Sign up for Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 10:38:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FFcjHB028857 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:38:45 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BF4941E601DC; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:37:35 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90F131E601D8 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:37:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A089A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:30:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14053617 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:30:46 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FFKka19936 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:20:46 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9FFKSI7013958 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:20:28 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:20:45 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Daisy's Gone In-Reply-To: <48.237c7b93.2cbea307@aol.com> Message-ID: References: <48.237c7b93.2cbea307@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Evelyn Duncan wrote: >Fine. But you can. I often find it helpful to say out loud to someone >what I am thinking/feeling - even if they could not care less. > >I told Mom I wanted to find out if Daisy's gone to a good home, and >she yelled, "Daisy was killing me! You and Tom want to kill me!" Possible response: "And Daisy was empowering me! Isn't it interesting that ...... Does your giving her away mean that you want to deprive me? If so, is it perhaps time for us to live apart?" Then call Tom (though I do not know who Tom is). Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 10:43:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FFhZHB028947 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:43:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A04B61E60210; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:42:25 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BA231E601DC for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:42:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A089D2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:35:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14054172 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:35:36 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FFPTa21335 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:25:29 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9FFPBI7015740 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:25:11 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:25:28 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: condo democracy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This morning, I had the great pleasure of meeting and talking with Lou, the condo association boaard pres. He and I, I was delighted to discover, are on exactly the same wave length re HH. We both considered all downtown options before opting for HH. We both think that effective participatory democracy is a good thing in a community. We both think that improvements need to be made and will be made. We both think that HH is the best place to live in Knoxville - unless one for some reason needs a yard and lots of private parking space. The association meets again soon - next week I think - I will make every effort to be there. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 10:45:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FFjbHB029106 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:45:37 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D213C1E601DD; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:44:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 979941E601D8 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:44:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A089D8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:37:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14055393 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:37:39 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9FFbca24168 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:37:38 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:37:28 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:33:43 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: what so funny about anger Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h9FFjbHB029106 Nice. Thanks for the teaser. BrP >>> meeberphobia@HOTMAIL.COM 10/15/03 11:30AM >>> Ruthless Interrogator: Nick Lowe asked the musical question, "What's so funny about peace, love, and understanding?" Now I'm asking you, what's so funny about anger? Lewis Black: [this isn't verbatim, because I'm not playing the tape back until I get around to keying in the whole transcript, but it's general sense]: It's not the anger that's funny, it's the frustration that leads to the anger. People walk around being nice to each other all day, and the frustration builds up. My act is about the cathartic venting of that frustration. On the subject of whether he'd rather date Coulter or Van Susteren, it turns out it was a good question; he was just on tv last night with Coulter. He gave a two part answer, the first part of which was: I'd rather date Coulter, if I could get her to shut up. This concludes the exclusive words-l preview. For the rest, you'll have to wait until the C-J version appears, at which time I'll post the entire transcript. >From: Marty Rosen >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Under God >Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:15:35 -0400 > >Okay, I'll add that one as well. Thanks. > > >>From: Paul Barfoot >>Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >>To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>Subject: Re: Under God >>Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:53:45 -0400 >> >>I have one (asked in a loud voice): >> >> What the HELL is so funny about anger? >> >> >>BrP >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> meeberphobia@HOTMAIL.COM 10/14/03 08:49PM >>> >>Draft questions for Lewis Black. Suggestions welcome. >> >>1. Who would you rather date, Ann Coulter or Greta Van Susteren? >>[Coulter >>has recently become an apologist for Joe McCarthy, and Van Susteren's >>father >>was McCarthy's campaign manager back in 1946, which was before he was >>removed from the bench and jailed for failing to pay his taxes]. >> >>2. Which is a more important influence on your style of angry commentary, >>the Old Testament prophets or Andy Rooney? >> >>3. As you come into town, you'll see signs indicating that Louisville is >>now >>the nation's sixteenth largest city. Does size matter? >> >>4. In Kentucky, sins like horse racing, tobacco, and bourbon are big >>business. That makes sin taxes unpopular in Kentucky. If you were going >>to >>levy a tax on just one virtue, which one would you choose? (faith, hope, >>charity, fortitude, justice, temperance, prudence). >> >>5. What else could Kentucky tax to get out of its fiscal deficit? >> >>6. We now have a pretty good idea why Rush Limbaugh was constantly getting >>things wrong. In the aftermath of his drug scandal, don't you think it >>would be in the public interest to require all television and radio >>commentators to undergo random drug testing? >> >>7. Would you pass? >> >>8. Have you ever considered using a white tiger in your act? >> >>9. If Arnold Schwarzenegger asks you to serve on his transition team, what >>advice will you give him? >> >>10. There are a few internet folks pushing a campaign to draft you for a >>presidential run. If you run, which party will you represent, and who >>will >>you choose as your running mate? >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Enjoy MSN 8 patented spam control and more with MSN 8 Dial-up Internet >>Service. 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Sign up for Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 10:48:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FFmoHB029188 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:48:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A2F1F1E601DD; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:47:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 502791E601D8 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:47:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A08A34@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:40:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14054650 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:40:51 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FFUpa22579 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:30:51 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9FFUXI7017728 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:30:33 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:30:51 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Daisy's Gone In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Ann Borkin wrote: >A glimpse into Bethany's discourse rules . . . Yes. Stay tuned ... I learned many of my rules dealing with a mother who is sometimes quite difficult. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 10:55:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FFtKHB029272 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:55:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 25EFA1E6020D; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:54:10 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB3371E601DE for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:54:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001A857B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:47:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14057088 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:47:20 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FFlKa27101 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:47:20 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9FFlFW1025682 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:47:15 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9FFlDWq025625; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:47:14 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031015084744.00a808c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:48:45 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: condo democracy In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:25 AM 10/15/2003 -0400, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >The association meets again soon - next week I think - I will make every >effort to be there. > >Bethany Avoid it as long as you can. Just enjoy living there without involvement in the politics. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 11:02:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FG2vHB029438 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:02:57 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0FE7F1E601D8; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:01:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5A3E1E601D6 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:01:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A08B3A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:54:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14058304 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:54:48 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FFsla29446 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:54:47 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9FFsi8b022857 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:54:44 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9FFshfC011521 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:54:44 -0400 Message-ID: <043301c39334$a314aed0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: what so funny about anger Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:54:37 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Rosen" > Ruthless Interrogator: Nick Lowe asked the musical question, "What's so > funny about peace, love, and understanding?" Now I'm asking you, what's so > funny about anger? > > Lewis Black: [this isn't verbatim, because I'm not playing the tape back > until I get around to keying in the whole transcript, but it's general > sense]: It's not the anger that's funny, it's the frustration that leads to > the anger. People walk around being nice to each other all day, and the > frustration builds up. My act is about the cathartic venting of that > frustration. > > On the subject of whether he'd rather date Coulter or Van Susteren, it turns > out it was a good question; he was just on tv last night with Coulter. He > gave a two part answer, the first part of which was: I'd rather date > Coulter, if I could get her to shut up. > > This concludes the exclusive words-l preview. For the rest, you'll have to > wait until the C-J version appears, at which time I'll post the entire > transcript. Gee, Marty, that's mighty conservative of you... > >From: Marty Rosen > >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group > >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Subject: Re: Under God > >Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:15:35 -0400 > > > >Okay, I'll add that one as well. Thanks. > > > > > >>From: Paul Barfoot > >>Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group > >>To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >>Subject: Re: Under God > >>Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:53:45 -0400 > >> > >>I have one (asked in a loud voice): > >> > >> What the HELL is so funny about anger? > >> > >> > >>BrP > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >>> meeberphobia@HOTMAIL.COM 10/14/03 08:49PM >>> > >>Draft questions for Lewis Black. Suggestions welcome. > >> > >>1. Who would you rather date, Ann Coulter or Greta Van Susteren? > >>[Coulter > >>has recently become an apologist for Joe McCarthy, and Van Susteren's > >>father > >>was McCarthy's campaign manager back in 1946, which was before he was > >>removed from the bench and jailed for failing to pay his taxes]. > >> > >>2. Which is a more important influence on your style of angry commentary, > >>the Old Testament prophets or Andy Rooney? > >> > >>3. As you come into town, you'll see signs indicating that Louisville is > >>now > >>the nation's sixteenth largest city. Does size matter? > >> > >>4. In Kentucky, sins like horse racing, tobacco, and bourbon are big > >>business. That makes sin taxes unpopular in Kentucky. If you were going > >>to > >>levy a tax on just one virtue, which one would you choose? (faith, hope, > >>charity, fortitude, justice, temperance, prudence). > >> > >>5. What else could Kentucky tax to get out of its fiscal deficit? > >> > >>6. We now have a pretty good idea why Rush Limbaugh was constantly getting > >>things wrong. In the aftermath of his drug scandal, don't you think it > >>would be in the public interest to require all television and radio > >>commentators to undergo random drug testing? > >> > >>7. Would you pass? > >> > >>8. Have you ever considered using a white tiger in your act? > >> > >>9. If Arnold Schwarzenegger asks you to serve on his transition team, what > >>advice will you give him? > >> > >>10. There are a few internet folks pushing a campaign to draft you for a > >>presidential run. If you run, which party will you represent, and who > >>will > >>you choose as your running mate? > >> > >>_________________________________________________________________ > >>Enjoy MSN 8 patented spam control and more with MSN 8 Dial-up Internet > >>Service. 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Sign up for Hotmail Extra Storage. > http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 11:06:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FG6uHB029528 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:06:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A2DFF1E601DD; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:05:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 738811E601D6 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:05:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A08B45@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:58:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14057444 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:58:57 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FFmva27799 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:48:57 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9FFmdI7023920 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:48:39 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:48:57 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: condo democracy In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031015084744.00a808c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: References: <4.2.2.20031015084744.00a808c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Betty wrote: >Avoid it as long as you can. Just enjoy living there without involvement >in the politics. YOu're right about the politics - I am going in order to be informed. I have let it be known that I am an observer where politics are concerned. I want to learn - Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 11:10:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FGAlHB029582 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:10:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BF3891E601D9; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:09:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FB181E601D6 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:09:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001A8613@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:02:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14058919 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:02:47 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f87.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.87]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FG2la30622 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:02:47 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:02:41 -0700 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:02:41 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Fake Letters Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:02:41 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2003 16:02:41.0982 (UTC) FILETIME=[C38C7DE0:01C39335] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > >their ridiculous Commander-in-Chief. > > > Uh-oh, here it comes. I feel it coming. There it is: ditto. > > ? What's coming? And what does ditto mean (in this context)? > >Marty felt himself about to cough up a hairball: the dull and >hackneyed, overused response "ditto." > >Marty made an original joke which I found funny. THANK GOD FOR MARTY. > >Ann This is exactly on target. Except that your exhortation to direct gratitude at some fictitious supreme being is, to put it mildly, bizarre. But then, I'm never seldom certain what this particular exhortation, "thank god," is supposed to mean. If we were at the dinner table, say, and you said, "Thank God for Marty," I'd surmise that I was about to be dinner. But in other contexts, it just confuses me. _________________________________________________________________ Page a contact’s mobile phone with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 11:12:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FGCrHB029613 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:12:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D8ED41E601D9; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:11:42 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C001E601D6 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:11:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A08B7D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:04:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14059137 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:04:54 -0400 Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FG4Ka30979 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:04:20 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.4f.358b9d63 (3890) for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:03:12 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <4f.358b9d63.2cbec9bf@aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:03:11 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Daisy's Gone To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/15/2003 10:31:06 AM Central Daylight Time, dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes: << Then call Tom (though I do not know who Tom is). >> Tom's my brother. He has his own family to deal with (wife, ex-wife, son, and stepson). Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Sig under construction From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 11:12:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FGCrHB029616 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:12:53 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A08B7E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:04:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14059143 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:04:54 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f101.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FG4Ua30994 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:04:30 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:04:25 -0700 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:04:24 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: condo democracy Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:04:24 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2003 16:04:25.0169 (UTC) FILETIME=[010D9410:01C39336] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: "Bethany K. Dumas" > >YOu're right about the politics - I am going in order to be informed. I >have let it be known that I am an observer where politics are concerned. >I want to learn - > >Bethany And yet you're already being sucked into politics and making factions with people who share your opinions about the wonders of democracy and the virtues of HH. Soon, you'll be out there proselytizing. _________________________________________________________________ Concerned that messages may bounce because your Hotmail account has exceeded its 2MB storage limit? Get Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 11:15:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FGExHB029662 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:15:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8473A1E601E0; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:13:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5505C1E601D9 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:13:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001A863E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:07:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14059393 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:07:00 -0400 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.99]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FG70a31612 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:07:00 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.90.3d9c4df3 (17526) for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:06:10 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <90.3d9c4df3.2cbeca72@aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:06:10 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Fake Letters To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/15/2003 11:03:06 AM Central Daylight Time, meeberphobia@HOTMAIL.COM writes: << If we were at the dinner table, say, and you said, "Thank God for Marty," I'd surmise that I was about to be dinner. >> Or the person who made the dinner possible. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Sig under construction From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 11:25:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FGP0HB029873 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:25:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CF4371E601D9; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:23:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F6B1E601DD for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:23:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A08BE6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:17:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14059389 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:17:00 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FG6ua31588 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:06:56 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9FG6bI7029624 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:06:38 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:06:54 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: condo democracy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Marty Rosen wrote: >And yet you're already being sucked into politics and making factions with >people who share your opinions about the wonders of democracy and the >virtues of HH. Soon, you'll be out there proselytizing. Huh? I have no . Who told you I had? I can't proselytize, because I have no agenda. I am enjoying and observing. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 11:27:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FGRXHB029945 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:27:33 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 644271E601DE; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:26:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 217081E601DD for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:26:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A08C16@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:19:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14059635 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:19:33 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FG8aa32169 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:08:36 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9FG8II7030307 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:08:18 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:08:35 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Daisy's Gone In-Reply-To: <4f.358b9d63.2cbec9bf@aol.com> Message-ID: References: <4f.358b9d63.2cbec9bf@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Evelyn Duncan wrote: >Tom's my brother. He has his own family to deal with >(wife, ex-wife, son, and stepson). I do think that your mother's future care should be the result of a family decision, if possible - Tom IS a member of the family - whether he likes that fact or not. Are there any persons who could help make the decisions - caregivers, clergy, etc.? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 11:28:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FGSWHB029960 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:28:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6CBCB1E601DD; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:27:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31E9A1E601D9 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:27:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A08C23@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:20:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14059864 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:20:33 -0400 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FGAWa00311 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:10:32 -0400 Received: from ra.msstate.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.12.10/8.12.8/ra_1.2) with ESMTP; id h9FGAUaK004874 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:10:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from maynor@localhost) by ra.msstate.edu (8.12.10/8.12.7/Submit) id h9FGAU2U004873 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:10:30 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:10:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Natalie Maynor Message-Id: <200310151610.h9FGAU2U004873@ra.msstate.edu> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Att: Roy or Tony or Abht or Others? Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I have a question about British English. Roy is the among current Wordslers, but answering this question requires more familiarity with American English words/culture than Roy might have. So maybe Tony can answer it with his experiences of his parents' language use plus his good bit of time in or near the US (and possibly Canadian English uses these terms in the US way -- I'm not sure). And abht, if she's reading, can ask Graham, who obviously is in a position to know both cultures well. Or Tony can do research-on-the-streets in London or can ask his cousins. In the Intro to Linguistics book I've used for a good while, in various editions, there's a little matching game at the end of one of the chapters -- matching American English words with their British English equivalents. One I've always wondered about is matching British bisquit with American cracker. I've always thought of British bisquit as being American cookie. To me (or is this the problem? am I mutant?), cookies and crackers aren't the same item, though there are some similarities like size, shapes, etc. Does British bisquit cover both of those items? Are American cookies and crackers (in the context of food) lumped together in British English? --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 11:34:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FGYSHB030091 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:34:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 09E0B1E601DD; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:33:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A02EA1E601D6 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:33:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A08C60@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:26:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14061368 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:26:28 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f24.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.24]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FGQSE04260 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:26:28 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:26:22 -0700 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:26:22 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: condo democracy Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:26:22 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2003 16:26:22.0701 (UTC) FILETIME=[125D01D0:01C39339] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: "Bethany K. Dumas" >> >Huh? I have no . Who told you I had? I can't proselytize, >because I have no agenda. I am enjoying and observing. > >Bethany Sheesh, you are such a babe in the political woods. The very fact that Lou is the condo association board president suggest that HE is a political critter. Do you think it was mere chance that the you met him and discovered that you're on the same wavelength? You've been recruited, plain and simple. Before long, Lou will have you out there posting 3x5 cards and knocking on doors lobbying your neighbors about temperatures and the grass cutting schedule. A condo is nothing but a cleverly choreographed Survivor-style reality show in which hardly anyone ever leaves, and you've now joined a tribe: Bethany: This morning, I had the great pleasure of meeting and talking with Lou, the condo association boaard pres. He and I, I was delighted to discover, are on exactly the same wave length re HH. We both considered all downtown options before opting for HH. We both think that effective participatory democracy is a good thing in a community. We both think that improvements need to be made and will be made. We both think that HH is the best place to live in Knoxville - unless one for some reason needs a yard and lots of private parking space." _________________________________________________________________ Page a contact’s mobile phone with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 11:50:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FGojHB030446 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:50:45 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 193031E601DD; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:49:35 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DED001E601D6 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:49:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A08CC1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:42:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14061758 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:42:40 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FGWeE05243 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:32:40 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9FGWMI7005908 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:32:22 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:32:39 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: condo democracy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Marty Rosen wrote: >Sheesh, you are such a babe in the political woods. The very fact that Lou >is the condo association board president suggest that HE is a political >critter. Do you think it was mere chance that the you met him and >discovered that you're on the same wavelength? You've been recruited, plain O come on Marty. How in the world does runnning into each other in the trash room at 10:00 a.m. constitute ??? You are much smarter than that. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 12:02:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FH2sHB030824 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:02:54 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 646331E601E1; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:01:43 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 314F31E601D9 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:01:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A08D50@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:54:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14063827 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:54:54 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FGssE10140 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:54:54 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9FGsms8003372 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:54:53 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000301c3933e$28f97b80$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <001b01c392d4$e9e002c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8D2944.2568C469@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Fake Letters Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:45:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Doris Markland wrote: > > > I wrote some really good responses to all > > this, read them with satisfaction, and then > > said "But . . nah" and deleted them. > > Why? > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Because I'm wising up. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 12:11:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FHBpHB031001 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:11:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0FA2C1E601D3; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:10:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C94211E6014B for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:10:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A08D9A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:03:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14064509 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:03:52 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FH3qE11957 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:03:52 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001A87EE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:03:51 -0400 Message-Id: <200310151703.h9FH3qE11957@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:03:51 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Fotopic To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:51:25 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Marie Ascher wrote: > >> > >sites, I know where to find them.) The pictures I put on fotopic.net >> > >were my Acadiafest pictures. >> >> http://maynor.fotopic.net/ > >Thank you. I actually did find them last night by going to >www.fotopic.net and searching for "acadiafest." > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I just read this subject heading as "faux topic"! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 12:46:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FHkpHB031793 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:46:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E19EF1E601D3; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:45:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8452D1E6014B for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:45:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A08F1A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:38:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14068249 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:38:50 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f72.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FHc2E20247 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:38:02 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:37:56 -0700 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:37:56 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: condo democracy Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:37:56 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2003 17:37:56.0940 (UTC) FILETIME=[11EDE0C0:01C39343] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: "Bethany K. Dumas" >O come on Marty. How in the world does runnning into each other in the >trash room at 10:00 a.m. constitute ??? You are much smarter >than that. At the risk of sounding like Karen, I must say..... Uh-huh. For you it was a chance meeting in the trash room. For Lou it was a campaign stop. _________________________________________________________________ See when your friends are online with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 13:07:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FI75HB032259 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:07:05 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3A9861E601E2; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:05:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAB891E601E1 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:05:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0902B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:59:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14070768 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:59:05 -0400 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FHx4E26397 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:59:04 -0400 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9FHwusV3571896 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:58:56 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:58:56 -0500 (CDT) From: poor old johnny ray X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Local (state) Politics In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015075646.00b31060@pop.gwi.net> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015075646.00b31060@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.0.4.77969 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Did anyone then throw him to the ground? I saw the clip where the > 72-year-old baseball coach got thrown to the ground. Wow. That'd be Don "The Designated Gerbil" Zimmer. And they'd do us a favor if they'd stop showing him so much. He seems to be going for a James-Carville-in-early-decomposition look. yeesh From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 13:12:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FICrHB032361 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:12:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6CCF61E601E2; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:11:42 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 209D81E6014B for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:11:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001A8A53@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:04:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14070300 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:04:53 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FHsrE25092 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:54:53 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9FHsZI7032372 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:54:35 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:54:52 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: condo democracy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Marty Rosen wrote: >At the risk of sounding like Karen, I must say..... Uh-huh. For you it was >a chance meeting in the trash room. For Lou it was a campaign stop. LOL! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 13:20:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FIKLHB032544 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:20:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 75D981E601E8; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:19:10 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18E4C1E601E5 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:19:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A090A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:12:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14072157 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:12:21 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f109.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.109]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FICKE29578 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:12:20 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:12:14 -0700 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:12:14 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: condo democracy Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:12:14 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2003 18:12:14.0980 (UTC) FILETIME=[DC9DDC40:01C39347] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: "Bethany K. Dumas" > > >At the risk of sounding like Karen, I must say..... Uh-huh. For you it >was > >a chance meeting in the trash room. For Lou it was a campaign stop. > >LOL! Remember this interchange a year from now. _________________________________________________________________ Fretting that your Hotmail account may expire because you forgot to sign in enough? Get Hotmail Extra Storage today! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 13:22:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FIM9HB032563 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:22:09 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4373D1E601E8; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:20:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D01B41E60109 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:20:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A090BD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:14:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14072243 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:14:09 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f103.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FIE8E29840 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:14:08 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:14:02 -0700 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:14:02 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: what so funny about anger Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:14:02 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2003 18:14:02.0620 (UTC) FILETIME=[1CC66BC0:01C39348] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Alan Wild > > This concludes the exclusive words-l preview. For the rest, you'll have >to > > wait until the C-J version appears, at which time I'll post the entire > > transcript. > >Gee, Marty, that's mighty conservative of you... Mega dittos, Alan! _________________________________________________________________ Never get a busy signal because you are always connected with high-speed Internet access. Click here to comparison-shop providers. https://broadband.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 13:31:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FIV2HB032734 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:31:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D62761E601E8; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:29:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BDC31E601E5 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:29:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A09112@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:23:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14073080 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:23:01 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FIN0E31793 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:23:00 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9FIN08b029968 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:23:00 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9FIMxfC029229 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:22:59 -0400 Message-ID: <04e301c39349$5e39ae40$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: what so funny about anger Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:23:01 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Rosen" > >From: Alan Wild > > > This concludes the exclusive words-l preview. For the rest, you'll have > >to > > > wait until the C-J version appears, at which time I'll post the entire > > > transcript. > > > >Gee, Marty, that's mighty conservative of you... > > Mega dittos, Alan! Tell me, has there been disclosure yet of the "pain killer" which the Critical-Dittocal was "on"? Was it the likely OxyContin? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 13:36:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FIa7HB000357 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:36:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 21D861E601E5; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:34:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAB201E60189 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:34:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A09145@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:28:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14072623 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:28:01 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FIHxE30695 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:17:59 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9FIHfI7008148 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:17:41 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:17:58 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: condo democracy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Marty Rosen wrote: >> >At the risk of sounding like Karen, I must say..... Uh-huh. For you it >>was >> >a chance meeting in the trash room. For Lou it was a campaign stop. >> >>LOL! > >Remember this interchange a year from now. Indeed. I am marking the date ... Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 13:36:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FIaLHB000360 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:36:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2C7711E601F4; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:35:10 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A56591E601E5 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:35:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A09143@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:28:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14073797 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:28:20 -0400 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9FISIE00896 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:28:18 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:28:16 PDT Message-ID: <20031015182816.56051.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:28:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Daisy's Gone To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <003f01c3932f$a77a4520$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > The reason I said it is like a soap opera were: You > get a dog you can't > afford or handle. Your mom is getting older and I > would does not need the > added stress. You fight with your family members. It > is a combanation of All > My Children and Days of Our Lives. > > Many words-l people's lives are like a soap opera. I > am not saying my life > is any different. A lot of us blunder through our lives. If we don't attempt to ease the way for one another, there's not much point. But, look at it this way. No commercials, PSA's or political blurbs. > > > alec __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 13:43:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FIh4HB000473 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:43:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 293481E601F4; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:41:53 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F6E91E601E5 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:41:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001A8B80@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:35:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14074261 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:35:03 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f87.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.87]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FIYSE02001 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:34:28 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:34:22 -0700 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:34:22 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: what so funny about anger Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:34:22 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2003 18:34:22.0407 (UTC) FILETIME=[F3D32570:01C3934A] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Alan Wild >> >Tell me, has there been disclosure yet of the "pain killer" which the >Critical-Dittocal was "on"? Was it the likely OxyContin? I don't whether any publication more authoritative than the National Enquirer has reported that as yet. But this might help: http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0310/S00100.htm _________________________________________________________________ See when your friends are online with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 13:47:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FIlWHB000566 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:47:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 263121E601F4; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:46:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8967E1E601E5 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:46:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A091B5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:39:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14074737 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:39:31 -0400 Received: from web20506.mail.yahoo.com (web20506.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9FIdUE02979 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:39:30 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:39:23 PDT Message-ID: <20031015183923.85385.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:39:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Fake Letters To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > This is exactly on target. Except that your > exhortation to direct gratitude > at some fictitious supreme being is, to put it > mildly, bizarre. But then, > I'm never seldom certain what this particular > exhortation, "thank god," is > supposed to mean. If we were at the dinner table, > say, and you said, "Thank > God for Marty," I'd surmise that I was about to be > dinner. But in other > contexts, it just confuses me. There, now. It comforts me to know that I don't need to thank God for M. Rosen. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 13:49:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FInZHB000638 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:49:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D517E1E601F4; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:48:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DF681E601E5 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:48:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A091D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:41:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14074885 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:41:34 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FIfXE03324 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:41:33 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h9FIfVDU014890 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:41:31 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h9FIfUtr014888 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:41:30 +0200 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:41:30 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: (Fwd) London Message-ID: <20031015184130.GA14831@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3F8C44AD.18575.1237236@localhost> <3F8C872D.E04B07B0@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F8C872D.E04B07B0@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor: = = A colleague of mine, now dead, moved here from Chicago driving a Checker = cab -- or rather a former Checker cab -- it no longer had Checker = lettering on it. He was a tiny man and looked funny at the wheel of = that large, chunky car. = Checker is a brand of auto, like Toyota. My grandmother used to drive them. At her memorial service her brother said that if she were still driving, it would most certainly be a Humvee. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 13:54:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FIsUHB000723 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:54:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 83A3A1E60206; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:53:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8EF51E601F6 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:53:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A091F8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:46:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14075342 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:46:29 -0400 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9FIkTE04279 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:46:29 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:46:27 PDT Message-ID: <20031015184627.34683.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:46:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Att: Roy or Tony or Abht or Others? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200310151610.h9FGAU2U004873@ra.msstate.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > To me (or is this the problem? am I mutant?), > cookies and > crackers aren't the same item, though there are some > similarities > like size, shapes, etc. Does British bisquit cover > both of those > items? Are American cookies and crackers (in the > context of > food) lumped together in British English? No. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 14:12:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FJC6HB001026 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:12:06 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4BBD41E601E5; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:10:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B30161E60205 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:10:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A092B1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:04:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14076794 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:04:05 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9FJ44E07323 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:04:05 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:04:04 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:00:00 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: what so funny about anger Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h9FJC6HB001026 Oxycontin is what they said on the news. Back in the sixties the word "rush" was kicked around a lot. I haven't heard this word referenced in any jokes yet and I'm wondering if this isn't a word that's in common usage anymore or if I just haven't been in front of the television at 11:30 much. BrP >>> awild@URI.EDU 10/15/03 02:23PM >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Rosen" > >From: Alan Wild > > > This concludes the exclusive words-l preview. For the rest, you'll have > >to > > > wait until the C-J version appears, at which time I'll post the entire > > > transcript. > > > >Gee, Marty, that's mighty conservative of you... > > Mega dittos, Alan! Tell me, has there been disclosure yet of the "pain killer" which the Critical-Dittocal was "on"? Was it the likely OxyContin? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 14:45:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FJj0HB001643 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:45:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BF6571E60210; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:43:48 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 473DB1E60207 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:43:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001A8D8A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:36:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14080273 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:36:59 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FJawE15170 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:36:58 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 018592B57C; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:36:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E65C02B563 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:36:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:36:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters In-Reply-To: <20031015183923.85385.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > There, now. It comforts me to know that I don't need > to thank God for M. Rosen. On the contrary - who's going to thank God on his behalf - MARTY's not going to do it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 14:54:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FJsgHB001756 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:54:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6846D1E60210; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:53:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 293791E6020D for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:53:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A09463@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:46:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14081155 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:46:41 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FJkfE16834 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:46:41 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9FJkb8b001678 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:46:37 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.103]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9FJkafC024494 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:46:36 -0400 Message-ID: <008f01c39354$fc4ce6a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: what so funny about anger Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:46:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ---- Original Message ----- >From: "Paul Barfoot" >Oxycontin is what they said on the news. >Back in the sixties the word "rush" was kicked around a lot. I haven't heard this word referenced in any jokes yet and I'm >wondering if this isn't a word that's in common usage anymore or if I just haven't been in front of the television at 11:30 much. >BrP I figured it a sign of the times, and didn't question it with more than one eyebrow, but did I hear correctly the other day when a 21st century peer on campus here at URI called his friend "pimp"... ??? and they both smiled. 'Alan >>> awild@URI.EDU 10/15/03 02:23PM >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Rosen" > >From: Alan Wild > > > This concludes the exclusive words-l preview. For the rest, you'll have > >to > > > wait until the C-J version appears, at which time I'll post the entire > > > transcript. > > > >Gee, Marty, that's mighty conservative of you... > > Mega dittos, Alan! Tell me, has there been disclosure yet of the "pain killer" which the Critical-Dittocal was "on"? Was it the likely OxyContin? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 15:05:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FK5qHB001972 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:05:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 670841E6020D; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:04:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B160D1E60210 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:04:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A094C3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:57:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14082040 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:57:50 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FJvoE18999 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:57:50 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001A8E43@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:57:50 -0400 Message-Id: <200310151957.h9FJvoE18999@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:57:50 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Fake Letters To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:30:46 -0700, Lynne Weber wrote: >> > >> >> I wrote some really good responses to all >> this, read them with satisfaction, and then >> said "But . . nah" and deleted them. >> >> Now I'm going to watch a movie and eat >> a dish of ice cream. > >This set of procedures should be adopted by all world >leaders, immediately. Well, by our leaders at the moment, certainly. It would also be good for Bloom to take this advice. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 15:22:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FKMbHB002316 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:22:37 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DB9021E60217; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:21:25 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D8131E60216 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:21:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0955F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:14:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14083774 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:14:36 -0400 Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FKEaE23026 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:14:36 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.48.2380e2c5 (657) for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:12:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <48.2380e2c5.2cbf043d@aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:12:45 EDT Subject: Re: Daisy's Gone To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/15/2003 5:51:26 AM, bonniev@GWI.NET writes: >And you deserve to be shit upon? Why don't you find out who the new >family is and go check up on her? > Yea... why don't you. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 15:35:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FKZVHB002581 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:35:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4810F1E60216; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:34:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD6FB1E60217 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:34:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A095C5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:27:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14084830 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:27:29 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9FKRTE25179 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:27:29 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:27:29 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:23:30 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: DR KEVIN OJO Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h9FKZVHB002581 It's interesting to see the variations on a theme. Someone should do a collection of the scam permutations (scamper mutations?) I just love this sentence from Dr Ojo "The money is clean after putting in so many years in service." BrP >>> kevin_ojo@MAIL2CARE.COM 10/14/03 10:56PM >>> DEAR SIR, REQUEST FOR BUSINESS PARTNERSHIP etc. etc. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 15:43:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FKhDHB002735 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:43:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0CE8A1E6021A; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:42:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CA3A1E60218 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:42:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A09634@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:35:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14085718 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:35:11 -0400 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FKZBE26651 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:35:11 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1e5.119eaef7 (657) for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:33:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1e5.119eaef7.2cbf092a@aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:33:46 EDT Subject: Re: Daisy's Gone To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/15/2003 6:44:32 AM, BrandyKitt@AOL.COM writes: >But, with the way Mom is, if she doesn't want to talk about >something, she won't. > What happens if you DO bring up the subject? Does she tell you to shut up? I've never lived with any family so I have no idea what it would have been like. Afaik, my mother and I were way different, and she generally demanded I do things her way when I was still living home, and I don't think we would have gotten along very well if she had lived with me, but it never happened so it's not relative to anything. Just wondering, Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 15:56:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FKuHHB003067 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:56:18 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D10BB1E60108; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:55:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B2B01E60085 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:55:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A09683@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:48:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14086771 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:48:16 -0400 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FKmFE28865 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:48:15 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.15b.263eb2ea (4552) for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:45:18 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <15b.263eb2ea.2cbf0bdd@aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:45:17 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Daisy's Gone To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/15/2003 3:35:32 PM Central Daylight Time, Dutchessg1@AOL.COM writes: << What happens if you DO bring up the subject? >> She says that Daisy was killing her. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Sig under construction From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 16:03:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FL3qHB003327 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:03:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 82D0C1E600EC; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:02:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E9141E60085 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:02:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A096D2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:55:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14087476 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:55:51 -0400 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9FKtoE30420 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:55:50 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:55:49 PDT Message-ID: <20031015205549.93471.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:55:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: DR KEVIN OJO To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Paul Barfoot wrote: > It's interesting to see the variations on a theme. > Someone should do a collection of the scam > permutations (scamper mutations?) I just love this > sentence from Dr Ojo > > "The money is clean after putting in so many years > in service." Radio spot - "Now! A weight loss system that loses weight be eating certain foods!" __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 16:05:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FL5fHB003357 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:05:41 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A2C9D1E600EC; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:04:29 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 507041E60085 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:04:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A096CE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:57:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14087564 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:57:40 -0400 Received: from web20509.mail.yahoo.com (web20509.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.144]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9FKvdE30655 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:57:40 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20509.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:57:39 PDT Message-ID: <20031015205739.89291.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:57:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Daisy's Gone To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <15b.263eb2ea.2cbf0bdd@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > What happens if you DO bring up the subject? > >> > > She says that Daisy was killing her. > > Evelyn Duncan How is your elbow? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 16:20:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FLKkHB003676 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:20:46 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 67D941E6021B; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:19:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3072D1E60108 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:19:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001A9128@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:12:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14088799 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:12:37 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FL2aE31586 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:02:36 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9FL2II7030931 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:02:18 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:02:36 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Daisy's Gone In-Reply-To: <1e5.119eaef7.2cbf092a@aol.com> Message-ID: References: <1e5.119eaef7.2cbf092a@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Theo Groothof wrote: >What happens if you DO bring up the subject? Does she tell you to shut up? >I've never lived with any family so I have no idea what it would have been like. >Afaik, my mother and I were way different, and she generally demanded I do >things her way when I was still living home, ??? Theo, how can you have "lived home" but "never lived with any family"? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 16:25:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FLPWHB003757 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:25:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7338B1E60108; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:24:20 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45B251E60085 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:24:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A097BF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:17:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14089616 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:17:31 -0400 Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com (imo-r06.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.102]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FLHVE00927 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:17:31 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1db.129866c4 (4004) for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:14:17 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1db.129866c4.2cbf12a9@aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:14:17 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Daisy's Gone To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/15/2003 3:57:59 PM Central Daylight Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << > What happens if you DO bring up the subject? > >> > > She says that Daisy was killing her. > > Evelyn Duncan How is your elbow? >> It's better. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Sig under construction From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 16:28:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FLStHB003790 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:28:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 947811E60108; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:27:43 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 604031E60085 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:27:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A097C9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:20:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14089729 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:20:54 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FLKsE01263 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:20:54 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.175.183]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031015212049.QROR1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:20:49 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8DBA33.FD32AC41@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:20:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Local (state) Politics References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015075646.00b31060@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > > marred by an outburst from Green Party gubernatorial > >candidate Sherman Lee Dillon, who had to be taken away by security after > >he bounded on the stage and demanded to be part of the event." > > > >from: http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0310/15/ma02.html > > -- Natalie > > Did anyone then throw him to the ground? I saw the clip where the > 72-year-old baseball coach got thrown to the ground. Wow. I don't know. I had to rush away for a noon meeting at the public library and thus didn't get to talk to many people at lunch to find out what they might know about it. I ran into a young acquaintance later who said that he thought it had taken close to ten minutes to Dillon and that both of the debaters seemed a bit non-plussed. But he was guessing that from radio. It was apparently not on tv except in the Delta (which is where it took place). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 16:33:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FLXUHB003875 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:33:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 841CD1E6021B; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:32:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 474361E60085 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:32:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A09817@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:25:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14090185 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:25:18 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FLPHE01848 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:25:17 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.175.183]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031015212512.QTQA1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:25:12 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8DBB3A.530052B2@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:25:14 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: condo democracy References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015074512.00b24448@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > Bonne and Natalie missed the whole point. A decision was made - it was > unpopular - it was immediately reversed. Hence my header: condo democracy. ?? I don't think either of us missed the point. The point was pretty obvious. Your heating/cooling situation is a one. I'm all for democracy in many contexts, even though it often means that I am having to endure a situation I was not with the majority on. But at least I can come home and do whatever I want to with my heating or cooling while grousing about what the majority wrought in my political world or work world or whatever. I am happy that democracy doesn't extend to my thermostat. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 16:34:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FLYwHB003888 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:34:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2C0461E6021D; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:33:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D60201E6021C for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:33:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A09843@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:26:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14090549 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:26:57 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FLQuE02210 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:26:56 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.175.183]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031015212651.QUOD1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:26:51 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8DBB9D.7B6E07E1@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:26:53 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: condo democracy References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015074512.00b24448@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015074512.00b24448@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015083208.00b346b0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > But my point is that > I wouldn't want to have to live in a place where I was dependent on others > and a vote about when to switch from AC to heat each Spring and Fall. Ditto. Saying that does not mean that Bonnie and I don't understand your point. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 16:35:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FLZsHB003902 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:35:54 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7ECED1E6021C; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:34:42 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EEE11E6021B for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:34:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A09830@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:27:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14090641 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:27:53 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FLRrE02384 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:27:53 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.175.183]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031015212747.QUZN1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:27:47 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8DBBD6.F33B077@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:27:50 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Daisy's Gone References: <9f.3ee8b44b.2cbe9908@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > All I can get from Mom is that he seemed nice and that Daisy > was "killing her." She doesn't even want me to mention Daisy. How was Daisy killing her? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 16:42:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FLgVHB004036 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:42:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 00A101E6021B; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:41:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C67A21E60108 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:41:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001A91E3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:34:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14091085 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:34:29 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FLYRE03438 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:34:27 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-196.gwi.net [216.195.151.196]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9FLYOYr042777 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:34:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015173252.00b19af0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:34:02 -0400 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: more photos Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU About a week after hosting Acadiafest, Bonnie and I spent a few days on Monhegan Island, about 12 miles off the coast. The photos are at: http://community.webshots.com/user/cwvoigt or http://tinyurl.com/r2o7 cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 16:49:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FLmxHB004170 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:48:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B88071E6021C; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:47:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AB5C1E60108 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:47:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A098A2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:40:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14091454 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:40:57 -0400 Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FLevE04131 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:40:57 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.146.1aa0cacf (4426) for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:40:18 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <146.1aa0cacf.2cbf18c2@aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:40:18 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Daisy's Gone To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/15/2003 4:29:16 PM Central Daylight Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << Evelyn Duncan wrote: > All I can get from Mom is that he seemed nice and that Daisy > was "killing her." She doesn't even want me to mention Daisy. How was Daisy killing her? >> When I was at work, Mom would take Daisy outside, and Daisy was strong enough to pull her along, taxing her heart and lungs. I told Mom to wait until I got home; then I would take Daisy out. Daisy's a strong puppy; too strong for Mom, I guess. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Sig under construction From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 16:49:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FLnYHB004192 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:49:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 497D11E6021B; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:48:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B5C01E60108 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:48:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A0989A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:41:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14091530 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:41:33 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FLfWE04227 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:41:33 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.175.183]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031015214127.YQQH1828.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:41:27 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8DBF09.EF8ECE8@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:41:29 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Daisy's Gone References: <20031015135102.94117.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Because dogs, especially young dogs, do adjust. It's > people who do not. This is true (at least the part about dogs). I feel sure that Daisy will be fine, assuming these people aren't monsters. I think people also can adjust sooner or later to a change of this kind. We do it when dogs die. Or when people die, for that matter. We don't necessarily totally get over the loss, but we adjust. What I'm worried about is Evelyn's overall situation, not just having to adjust to the loss of Daisy. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 16:55:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FLtqHB004324 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:55:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8E3A51E60217; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:54:39 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 596781E60108 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:54:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A098AD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:47:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14091768 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:47:50 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FLloE04785 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:47:50 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.175.183]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031015214745.YUCN1828.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:47:45 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8DC074.F534F6A5@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:47:32 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin wrote: > > > >their ridiculous Commander-in-Chief. > > > Uh-oh, here it comes. I feel it coming. There it is: ditto. > > ? What's coming? And what does ditto mean (in this context)? > > Marty felt himself about to cough up a hairball: the dull and > hackneyed, overused response "ditto." > > Marty made an original joke which I found funny. THANK GOD FOR MARTY. Thank you. Now I get it. I was reading too hurriedly and blurriedly (and don't know much about coughing up hairballs). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 17:06:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FM6BHB004526 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:06:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 809321E6021B; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:04:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52CFD1E60218 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:04:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A098DE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:58:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14092318 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:58:09 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FLw9E06142 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:58:09 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9FLw7eO005759 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:58:07 -0700 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9FLw6a2005739 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:58:07 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031015145506.00a4f980@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:55:46 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: more photos In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015173252.00b19af0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Very nice! Betty At 05:34 PM 10/15/2003 -0400, you wrote: >About a week after hosting Acadiafest, Bonnie and I spent a few days on >Monhegan Island, about 12 miles off the coast. > >The photos are at: > >http://community.webshots.com/user/cwvoigt > >or > >http://tinyurl.com/r2o7 > >cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 17:12:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FMC7HB004694 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:12:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2852B1E6021C; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:10:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC93B1E6021B for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:10:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001A92B2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:04:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14093143 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:04:05 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FM45E07985 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:04:05 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.175.183]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031015220359.RKOZ1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:03:59 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8DC451.D31CFD11@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:04:01 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: Roy or Tony or Abht or Others? References: <200310151610.h9FGAU2U004873@ra.msstate.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > I have a question about British English. Roy is the > among current Wordslers, but answering this question requires Oops. I meant to say , though I was aware of the sort-of pun. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 17:12:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FMCaHB004710 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:12:36 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BA9341E6021B; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:11:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C8F61E601E1 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:11:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A09955@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:04:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14093187 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:04:34 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FM4YE08111 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:04:34 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.175.183]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031015220429.RKUJ1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:04:29 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8DC46F.E39D7B4C@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:04:31 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: <001b01c392d4$e9e002c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8D2944.2568C469@maynor.net> <000301c3933e$28f97b80$facadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > > I wrote some really good responses to all > > > this, read them with satisfaction, and then > > > said "But . . nah" and deleted them. > > > > Why? > > Because I'm wising up. In what way? Iow, how are you being wise? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 17:15:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FMFdHB004760 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:15:39 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 72E661E6021B; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:14:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44FF61E601E1 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:14:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0995E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:07:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14093298 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:07:37 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FM7bE08509 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:07:37 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.175.183]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031015220732.RMCH1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:07:32 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8DC524.B54DB92B@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:07:32 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: (Fwd) London References: <3F8C44AD.18575.1237236@localhost> <3F8C872D.E04B07B0@maynor.net> <20031015184130.GA14831@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > = A colleague of mine, now dead, moved here from Chicago driving a Checker > = cab -- or rather a former Checker cab -- it no longer had Checker > = lettering on it. He was a tiny man and looked funny at the wheel of > = that large, chunky car. > = > Checker is a brand of auto, like Toyota. My grandmother used to > drive them. At her memorial service her brother said that if she > were still driving, it would most certainly be a Humvee. I saw a student humming along in a Humvee yesterday and thought it was a strange choice of vehicle. Re Checkers, my friend's Checker was a retired cab. Or so he and his wife said. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 17:23:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FMNGHB004929 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:23:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 31D3D1E601E1; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:22:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 018371E6021E for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:22:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A09981@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:15:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14093913 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:15:15 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FMFEE09586 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:15:14 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.175.183]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031015221509.RPNQ1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:15:09 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8DC6EE.A5104D90@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:15:10 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: Roy or Tony or Abht or Others? References: <20031015184627.34683.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > > > > To me (or is this the problem? am I mutant?), > > cookies and > > crackers aren't the same item, though there are some > > similarities > > like size, shapes, etc. Does British bisquit cover > > both of those > > items? Are American cookies and crackers (in the > > context of > > food) lumped together in British English? > > No. Thank you. I really couldn't imagine that any USAer would call a prototypical cookie (like maybe a chocolate-chip cookie) a cracker or a prototypical cracker (like maybe a soda cracker) a cookie, though there might be some less clearcut labeling in some fuzzy in-between-type snacks. While awaiting word from a Brit/American bilingual, do any of you agree with this textbook's choice of cracker as the American parallel with British biscuit? Oops -- I just noticed that I wrote bisquit above. I started doing that, I think, back when I started noticing that some of my students were majoring in something that looked like bisquit -- it was something involving business and information technology. I find myself doing it often now. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 17:26:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FMQ4HB005017 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:26:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 831001E60220; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:24:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5464C1E6021E for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:24:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A099AE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:18:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14094078 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:18:02 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FMI2E09910 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:18:02 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-196.gwi.net [216.195.151.196]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9FMHxQW003470; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:18:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015180448.00b3eb88@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:17:27 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: more photos In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031015145506.00a4f980@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015173252.00b19af0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:55 PM 10/15/2003 -0700, Betty Clark wrote: >Very nice! We've only been to Monhegan twice, but it is becoming a favorite. Definitely a destination point (two hour drive from here, then a one-hour boat ride). Next year we may try to hit it later, like late September. In mid-summer, the mosquitoes are abundant and voracious. It definitely is another world. In true island-living fashion, you bring what you need with you and then carry out the remainder (people with infants must carry the disposed-of diapers with them back to the mainland). Monhegan is somewhat noted in that the lobstermen there fish in the dead of winter when all others have quit (gives them a good market). Also, after a few enounters with mainland-based lobstermen in the vicinity of Monhegan (in which a few rifle rounds were placed across bows), the legislature passed a bill decreeing the area around Monhegan to be off-limits to all but Monhegan lobstermen. Supposedly, Monhegan is the first permanent fishing settlement on the Maine coast. I guess that's because the Basques usually only went ashore to salt and cure their catch and then went home at the end of the season. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 17:28:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FMSTHB005067 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:28:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C107B1E6021C; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:27:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92F891E60082 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:27:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A099AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:20:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14094353 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:20:27 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FMKRE10456 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:20:27 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-196.gwi.net [216.195.151.196]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9FMKPQU003826 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:20:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015181811.00b8a5a8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:20:30 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Fake Letters In-Reply-To: <3F8DC46F.E39D7B4C@maynor.net> References: <001b01c392d4$e9e002c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8D2944.2568C469@maynor.net> <000301c3933e$28f97b80$facadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Doris Markland wrote: > > > > I wrote some really good responses to all > > > > this, read them with satisfaction, and then > > > > said "But . . nah" and deleted them. > > > > > > Why? > > > > Because I'm wising up. > >In what way? Iow, how are you being wise? > -- Natalie I believe Doris thinks she has gained wisdom by seeing the fruitlessness of defending her viewpoint against the overly-liberal point of view she encounters here. She tries to enlighten us with her experience and point of view. Still we "yeah, but" her to oblivion and continue in our wayward, peacenik, anti-Bush ways. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 17:29:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FMTxHB005101 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:29:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AA5A11E60221; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:28:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C1081E60220 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:28:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A099BC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:21:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14094391 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:21:57 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FMLvE10550 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:21:57 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.175.183]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031015222149.RSIP1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:21:49 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8DC87E.FD11852C@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:21:50 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: more photos References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015173252.00b19af0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > http://community.webshots.com/user/cwvoigt I want James Wyeth's cottage. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 17:30:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FMU4HB005125 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:30:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 82B351E6021E; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:28:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54CF51E6021D for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:28:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A099D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:22:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14094411 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:22:01 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FMM1E10590 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:22:01 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-196.gwi.net [216.195.151.196]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9FMLxQU004046 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:22:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015182040.00baec00@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:22:03 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: (Fwd) London In-Reply-To: <3F8DC524.B54DB92B@maynor.net> References: <3F8C44AD.18575.1237236@localhost> <3F8C872D.E04B07B0@maynor.net> <20031015184130.GA14831@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I saw a student humming along in a Humvee yesterday and thought it was a >strange choice of vehicle. -- Natalie My vitreoretinal consultant drives a Humvee. He says he is supporting the technology so that we will always have it for wars in the future. Mostly, though, I think he's a little boy enjoying a toy. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 17:35:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FMZjHB005216 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:35:45 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8ACA91E6021D; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:34:32 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58D051E60082 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:34:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A099E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:27:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14094740 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:27:43 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FMRhE11316 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:27:43 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9FMRdBS008866 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:27:41 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <002801c3936c$a6682520$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <001b01c392d4$e9e002c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8D2944.2568C469@maynor.net> <000301c3933e$28f97b80$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DC46F.E39D7B4C@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Fake Letters Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:32:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Doris Markland wrote: > > > > I wrote some really good responses to all > > > > this, read them with satisfaction, and then > > > > said "But . . nah" and deleted them. > > > > > > Why? > > > > Because I'm wising up. > > In what way? Iow, how are you being wise? > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Just that I if I read something I disagree with I don't have to respond. Pfffft. Throw it out the window and forget it, if I choose. If they are really "wrong" they aren't going to believe me anyway, because of their mindset that led them to trust their information and distrust mine. - D. M. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 17:35:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FMZsHB005219 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:35:54 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CA9641E6021D; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:34:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D6581E60082 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:34:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001A93B7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:27:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14094744 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:27:45 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FMRiE11332 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:27:44 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9FMRgBS008967 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:27:43 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <002b01c3936c$a81b0540$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <001b01c392d4$e9e002c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8D2944.2568C469@maynor.net> <000301c3933e$28f97b80$facadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015181811.00b8a5a8@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: Re: Fake Letters Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:35:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Doris Markland wrote: > > > > > I wrote some really good responses to all > > > > > this, read them with satisfaction, and then > > > > > said "But . . nah" and deleted them. > > > > > > > > Why? > > > > > > Because I'm wising up. > > > >In what way? Iow, how are you being wise? > > -- Natalie > > I believe Doris thinks she has gained wisdom by seeing the fruitlessness of > defending her viewpoint against the overly-liberal point of view she > encounters here. She tries to enlighten us with her experience and point > of view. Still we "yeah, but" her to oblivion and continue in our wayward, > peacenik, anti-Bush ways. > > > bonnie Not bad, Bon. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 17:37:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FMb7HB005237 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:37:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 084BB1E6021D; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:35:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCF8A1E60082 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:35:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A099ED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:29:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14094812 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:29:06 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FMT5E11472 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:29:05 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-196.gwi.net [216.195.151.196]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9FMT1Yr052478; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:29:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015182619.00b6e3f0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:28:59 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: more photos In-Reply-To: <3F8DC87E.FD11852C@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015173252.00b19af0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:21 PM 10/15/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >"clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > > > http://community.webshots.com/user/cwvoigt > >I want James Wyeth's cottage. It is in a truly magnificent setting---somewhat bleak, exposed shore. It doesn't take much imagination to see the winter storm-driven waves coming close to the house. I don't know what it's worth, but I doubt like hell that you or I could afford it. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 17:40:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FMewHB005275 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:40:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0B1811E6021D; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:39:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0DDB1E60082 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:39:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A099ED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:32:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14094975 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:32:57 -0400 Received: from vbn.inter-touch.net ([194.205.224.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FMWuE11780 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:32:56 -0400 Received: from test2kserver (unknown [10.0.10.71]) by vbn.inter-touch.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 237BD340804 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:32:53 +0000 (/etc/localtime) From: "Tony Harminc" To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:29:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Att: Roy or Tony or Abht or Others? Message-ID: <3F8D9208.19810.DC887E@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <200310151610.h9FGAU2U004873@ra.msstate.edu> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 15 Oct 2003 at 11:10, Natalie Maynor wrote: > In the Intro to Linguistics book I've used for a good while, in > various editions, there's a little matching game at the end of > one of the chapters -- matching American English words with > their British English equivalents. One I've always wondered > about is matching British bisquit with American cracker. I've > always thought of British bisquit as being American cookie. I agree - that's the equivalent I've always used. Biscuits (is there a "q" in it or is that just typo/thinko?) are sweet. Canadian usage is different: we certainly don't use the word in its American sense (although US chains like Popeye's have appeared to warp the usage), but we also don't much use the British meaning. I suppose we just don't use the word much at all. > Are American cookies and crackers (in the context of > food) lumped together in British English? I don't think so, but I could be wrong. There are things like "Carr's Water Biscuits" that are not sweet, but I don't think they're what people here think of as biscuits. I'll try to remember to ask people at the bank here tomorrow. Gack - I just paid 15 pounds for a little chicken wrap and small glass of wine. Tony H. Listening to ravens at the nearby Tower of London. Or maybe they're some other croaky birds flying around over the Thames. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 17:44:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FMitHB005327 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:44:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2D8091E6021E; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:43:43 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFB621E6021D for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:43:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A09A10@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:36:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14095245 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:36:54 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FMarE12307 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:36:53 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.175.183]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031015223648.RXQA1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:36:48 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8DCC02.CAEC9546@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:36:50 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: more photos References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015173252.00b19af0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015180448.00b3eb88@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > Monhegan is somewhat noted in that the lobstermen there fish in the dead of > winter when all others have quit (gives them a good market). Also, after a What would visiting Monhegan in mid-winter be like? Does the ferry do its regular runs? Are there places for visitors to stay and to eat? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 17:48:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FMm0HB005381 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:48:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B3B231E6021E; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:46:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F0791E60082 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:46:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A09A1C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:39:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14095386 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:39:58 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FMdwE12585 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:39:58 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.175.183]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031015223953.RYXC1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:39:53 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8DCCBB.BA5F2@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:39:55 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: <001b01c392d4$e9e002c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8D2944.2568C469@maynor.net> <000301c3933e$28f97b80$facadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015181811.00b8a5a8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > I believe Doris thinks she has gained wisdom by seeing the fruitlessness of > defending her viewpoint against the overly-liberal point of view she > encounters here. She tries to enlighten us with her experience and point > of view. Still we "yeah, but" her to oblivion and continue in our wayward, > peacenik, anti-Bush ways. I didn't remember that we were discussing liberal-vs-conservative stuff. I thought we were discussing things like who joins the military and for what reasons, something I think Doris would have interesting thoughts on, depending on how much her son knows about why various other people joined and on whether he has talked about that. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 17:49:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FMnMHB005425 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:49:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 635281E6021D; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:48:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34DD51E60082 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:48:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A09A34@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:41:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14095470 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:41:20 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FMfKE12738 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:41:20 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.175.183]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031015224115.RZLU1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:41:15 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8DCD0D.CB262C32@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:41:17 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: more photos References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015173252.00b19af0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015182619.00b6e3f0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > I don't know what it's worth, but I doubt like hell > that you or I could afford it. I started to ask how much I could get it for. I was thinking maybe a simple swap -- like whoever owns it might like to live here in my house and we could make an even trade. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 17:53:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FMrZHB005506 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:53:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B56511E60220; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:52:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83FE51E6021E for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:52:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001A93FE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:45:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14095665 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:45:33 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FMjXE13082 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:45:33 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.175.183]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031015224528.SBEM1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:45:28 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8DCE0A.CA7854B2@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:45:30 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: <001b01c392d4$e9e002c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8D2944.2568C469@maynor.net> <000301c3933e$28f97b80$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DC46F.E39D7B4C@maynor.net> <002801c3936c$a6682520$facadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > Just that I if I read something I disagree > with I don't have to respond. Pfffft. > Throw it out the window and forget it, > if I choose. If they are really "wrong" > they aren't going to believe me anyway, > because of their mindset that led them > to trust their information and distrust > mine. I really don't think I'm thinking of the same thread or subthread or whatever that you were responding to because the one I'm remembering wasn't really controversial, iirc. But re your point, it is of course true that nobody has to respond to something they don't want to respond to. And you're probably right that in a one-on-one conversation, you probably won't convince that one for the reasons you've given above. But in an open discussion, I feel sure that there are many in-betweeners -- people who don't have strong opinions on the topic. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 17:57:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FMv3HB005595 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:57:03 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 533421E60220; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:55:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22D591E60082 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:55:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A09A51@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:49:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14095776 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:49:01 -0400 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FMn0E13342 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:49:00 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9FMmx8e018994 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:48:59 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3F8DCE9F.2080004@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:47:59 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: <20031015021952.35586.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: >>My husband, a Vietnam vet, is hardly "poor" and >>"downtrodden." Thanks for the sentiment, though. >> >>Neither is my brother, who served in the first war >>in Iraq, >>a "blue-shirted schmuck." >> > > I beg your pardon, Rita, you misunderstand me. No, I understand you -- despite your comma splices. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 18:00:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FN0EHB005686 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:00:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 50B001E60082; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:59:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CA931E60220 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:59:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A09A4E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:52:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14095897 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:52:12 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FMqBE13558 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:52:11 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 2BE5F2B8EF; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:52:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D9492B8CB for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:52:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:52:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters In-Reply-To: <3F8DCE9F.2080004@swbell.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > > I beg your pardon, Rita, you misunderstand me. > > > No, I understand you -- despite your comma splices. > OhmyGOD I hope this is a joke, comma splices are kool, Rita is a blue-nose rubberhead grammar fascista if she is serious. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 18:02:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FN2mHB005735 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:02:48 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CFF961E6021E; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:01:35 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1AC41E60082 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:01:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A09A51@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:54:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14095944 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:54:46 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FMskE13682 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:54:46 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id AD3402B588; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:54:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A02132B56F for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:54:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:54:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: Turnduck Uptown Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ha ha ha Theresa just made up this name for an old fuddy-duddy (any old fuddy-duddy) Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 18:07:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FN7DHB005830 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:07:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DAA841E6021E; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:06:00 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8DD51E60082 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:06:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A09A7E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:59:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14096080 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:59:11 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FMxBE13990 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:59:11 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.175.183]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031015225906.WHOX1822.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:59:06 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8DD13C.312F52D4@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:59:08 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: Roy or Tony or Abht or Others? References: <3F8D9208.19810.DC887E@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tony Harminc wrote: > I agree - that's the equivalent I've always used. Biscuits (is > there a "q" in it or is that just typo/thinko?) are sweet. A frequent thinko -- I do it often (or rather often in relation to how often I have occasion to write the word, which isn't very often). > > Canadian usage is different: we certainly don't use the word in its > American sense (although US chains like Popeye's have appeared to > warp the usage), but we also don't much use the British meaning. I > suppose we just don't use the word much at all. I wasn't clear. My brain has been in flutter/fuzzy mode all week -- I'm trying to do way too much -- leading a Rita kind of life without Rita's ability at doing so. I wasn't talking about the American usage of biscuit. I meant the American words cracker and cookie -- whether Canadians use cracker and cookie the way we do. > > Are American cookies and crackers (in the context of > > food) lumped together in British English? > > I don't think so, but I could be wrong. There are things like > "Carr's Water Biscuits" that are not sweet, but I don't think > they're what people here think of as biscuits. So do they use the same word we do for crackers -- iow, crackers? > I'll try to remember to ask people at the bank here tomorrow. You are a good reasearcher. > Gack - I just paid 15 pounds for a little chicken wrap and small > glass of wine. Good grief. > Listening to ravens at the nearby Tower of London. Or maybe they're > some other croaky birds flying around over the Thames. So you're staying near St. Katherine's Docks (or some such name)? I remember having a wonderful meal at a restaurant there in the late '70s -- for a reasonable price. I bet it would be $200 today. I've been back to that area a couple of times since then and have not found it (those little shops and restaurants along the docks, I mean) as compelling as I had before. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 18:08:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FN8IHB005880 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:08:18 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CF1E01E6021E; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:07:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A13DB1E60082 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:07:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A09A71@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:00:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14096114 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:00:16 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FN0GE14088 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:00:16 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9FN0F2f028737 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:00:15 -0700 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9FN0EJC028719; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:00:14 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031015155712.00a54220@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:57:55 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Fake Letters In-Reply-To: References: <3F8DCE9F.2080004@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:52 PM 10/15/2003 -0700, Ann Borkin wrote: >On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > > > I beg your pardon, Rita, you misunderstand me. > > > > > > No, I understand you -- despite your comma splices. > > >OhmyGOD I hope this is a joke, comma splices are kool, Rita is a >blue-nose rubberhead grammar fascista if she is serious. Stop the hate! Geeze, I just heard about the ferry accident in New York. People died. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 18:15:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FNFmHB006050 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:15:48 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 482A31E60220; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:14:35 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 193571E60082 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:14:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A09A84@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:07:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14096436 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:07:46 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FN7fE14803 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:07:41 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.175.183]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031015230735.WKFG1822.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:07:35 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8DD339.99BF47E4@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:07:37 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: That Study on Misconceptions and Media Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This gives a bit more info from that study we were talking about recently re people's misconceptions in relation to their news sources: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A27061-2003Oct14.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 18:22:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FNMiHB006134 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:22:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 281201E6021E; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:21:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAA9E1E60082 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:21:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A09AEE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:14:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14097103 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:14:42 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FNEfE15771 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:14:41 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9FNEcBS014987 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:14:40 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001a01c39373$36a040e0$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <001b01c392d4$e9e002c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8D2944.2568C469@maynor.net> <000301c3933e$28f97b80$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DC46F.E39D7B4C@maynor.net> <002801c3936c$a6682520$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DCE0A.CA7854B2@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Fake Letters Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:22:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > Just that I if I read something I disagree > > with I don't have to respond. Pfffft. > > Throw it out the window and forget it, > > if I choose. If they are really "wrong" > > they aren't going to believe me anyway, > > because of their mindset that led them > > to trust their information and distrust > > mine. > > I really don't think I'm thinking of the same thread or subthread or > whatever that you were responding to because the one I'm remembering > wasn't really controversial, iirc. But re your point, it is of course > true that nobody has to respond to something they don't want to respond > to. And you're probably right that in a one-on-one conversation, you > probably won't convince that one for the reasons you've given above. > But in an open discussion, I feel sure that there are many in-betweeners > -- people who don't have strong opinions on the topic. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) It was not controversial to you probably because nothing in your experience conflicted with Marty's comments. My experience conflicted mightily with it, but you see he wasn't here at that time so how could he know. I will just blow it off. Learning about wars by reading books by "experts" may be like learning about religion by reading books written by "experts". It's all in the head. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 18:30:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FNU3HB006303 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:30:03 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A085E1E60224; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:28:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E461E60223 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:28:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A09B22@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:22:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14097543 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:22:01 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FNM1E16643 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:22:01 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9FNLwBS000367 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:21:59 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <002101c39374$3c5504c0$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3F8DD339.99BF47E4@maynor.net> Subject: Re: That Study on Misconceptions and Media Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:24:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > This gives a bit more info from that study we were talking about > recently re people's misconceptions in relation to their news sources: > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A27061-2003Oct14.html > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > This is old news. I want to hear exactly what was in the girl's underwear. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 18:37:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FNbCHB006584 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:37:12 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F168A1E60229; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:35:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C21B41E60227 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:35:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A09B2E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:29:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14097882 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:29:09 -0400 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FNT9E17453 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:29:09 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9FNT41R006933 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:29:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F8DD804.7070601@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:28:04 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin wrote: > On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > >>>I beg your pardon, Rita, you misunderstand me. >>> >> >> No, I understand you -- despite your comma splices. >> >> > OhmyGOD I hope this is a joke, comma splices are kool, Rita is a > blue-nose rubberhead grammar fascista if she is serious. Better watch your spelling. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 18:42:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FNgoHB006718 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:42:50 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7E2131E60223; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:41:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BC741E60221 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:41:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A09B34@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:34:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14098107 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:34:48 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f99.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.99]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FNYmE18007 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:34:48 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:34:42 -0700 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 23:34:42 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: condo democracy Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:34:42 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2003 23:34:42.0634 (UTC) FILETIME=[E8B792A0:01C39374] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor >world or work world or whatever. I am happy that democracy doesn't >extend to my thermostat. I may have mentioned that we're engaged in building a new library building (http://se-libg-cam.ads.iu.edu/ when it's not too dark). One of the issues that arose during design was whether we wanted to install placebo thermostats or real thermostats. Of course, I can't disclose the answer to that question here. It's a matter of homeland security. _________________________________________________________________ Surf and talk on the phone at the same time with broadband Internet access. Get high-speed for as low as $29.95/month (depending on the local service providers in your area). https://broadband.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 18:46:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FNk5HB006809 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:46:05 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 321EB1E60224; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:44:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00BAE1E60223 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:44:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A09B4A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:38:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14098291 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:38:03 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FNc2E18404 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:38:02 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 1639D2B56F; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:38:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0873D2B559 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:38:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:38:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters In-Reply-To: <3F8DD804.7070601@swbell.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > Ann Borkin wrote: > > > On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > > > >>>I beg your pardon, Rita, you misunderstand me. > >>> > >> > >> No, I understand you -- despite your comma splices. > >> > >> > > OhmyGOD I hope this is a joke, comma splices are kool, Rita is a > > blue-nose rubberhead grammar fascista if she is serious. > > > Better watch your spelling. > > > > > -- > Rita Rouvalis Chapman > rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org > http://www.etext.org/~rita > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 18:48:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FNmmHB006860 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:48:48 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 806D81E60221; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:47:35 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 513521E60220 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:47:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A09B68@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:40:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14098435 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:40:41 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FNefE18681 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:40:41 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-196.gwi.net [216.195.151.196]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9FNedQU014856 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:40:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015194009.00bb30d0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:40:43 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: more photos In-Reply-To: <3F8DCD0D.CB262C32@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015173252.00b19af0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015182619.00b6e3f0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >"clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > > > I don't know what it's worth, but I doubt like hell > > that you or I could afford it. > >I started to ask how much I could get it for. I was thinking maybe a >simple swap -- like whoever owns it might like to live here in my house >and we could make an even trade. > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I doubt Jamie Wyeth would like to move to Mississippi for the summers. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 18:49:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FNnJHB006873 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:49:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 06A721E60223; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:48:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CABE81E60220 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:48:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A09B5C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:41:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14098466 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:41:16 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FNfGE18738 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:41:16 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.175.183]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031015234111.MQSQ21489.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:41:11 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8DDB19.A4B36B54@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:41:13 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: <001b01c392d4$e9e002c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8D2944.2568C469@maynor.net> <000301c3933e$28f97b80$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DC46F.E39D7B4C@maynor.net> <002801c3936c$a6682520$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DCE0A.CA7854B2@maynor.net> <001a01c39373$36a040e0$facadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > It was not controversial to you probably > because nothing in your experience > conflicted with Marty's comments. > My experience conflicted mightily with > it, but you see he wasn't here at that > time so how could he know. I will > just blow it off. Thank you for helping my fuzzy brain. (I'm serious about the brain-flutter I mentioned, btw -- I'm way over-extended and am feeling it. Iow, I'm not being in mentioning your helping my fuzzy brain.) I now know the subthread you were responding to: the one about WWII. I was thinking it was the subthread about who volunteered now and why -- about why people are soldiers in Iraq right now. That is potentially a controversial topic, I guess, but I don't think our discussion of it was controversial, except for JMW's illogic in seeming to think that I thought these soldiers were all ignorant, which I hope I clarified as being his illogic and not my belief. Re nothing in my experience conflicting with Marty's comments about WWII: Everything in my experience conflicted with them. But I have not read the books Marty mentioned or seen the statistics that my fuzzy brain vaguely remembers that he quoted last night. Nor is my experience as one who remembers WWII. I was alive during a bit more than half of the US's involvement in WWII, but I claim no clear memories of it. I did grow up (in its immediate shadows) with the impression that most of the volunteers volunteered because they thought they should fight for the country. My uncle's e-mail that I quoted here is pretty much what I had always thought about people's attitudes -- not about details like the choice of volunteering vs waiting to be drafted, but the idea that the war had to be fought and that they (the young men of the time) would go fight it. > Learning about wars by reading books > by "experts" may be like learning about > religion by reading books written by > "experts". It's all in the head. As I said, I haven't read the books Marty mentioned, but I thought they included figures, etc. In that sense books are a better source than first-hand experience since first-hand experience is for most people limited -- limited regionally or by class or age group or (to lump those together) by whatever social (in its general sense) milieu you happen to be in. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 18:53:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FNrNHB006919 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:53:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E4C1C1E60223; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:52:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B33AF1E60220 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:52:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A09B85@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:45:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14098722 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:45:20 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FNjIE19168 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:45:19 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-196.gwi.net [216.195.151.196]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9FNjHYp064083 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:45:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015194310.00bbc9b0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:45:21 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Fake Letters In-Reply-To: <001a01c39373$36a040e0$facadece@0018079268> References: <001b01c392d4$e9e002c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8D2944.2568C469@maynor.net> <000301c3933e$28f97b80$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DC46F.E39D7B4C@maynor.net> <002801c3936c$a6682520$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DCE0A.CA7854B2@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Learning about wars by reading books >by "experts" may be like learning about >religion by reading books written by >"experts". It's all in the head. > - D. M. Not the same at all. Drawing conclusions about how the population of an entire country responded to a war by extrapolating from what one experienced in one town in the heartland of that country is just nonsense. Have you not yet noticed that much of this country is very, very different from Nebraska??! bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 18:56:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FNuQHB006976 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:56:26 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 920051E60226; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:55:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B6241E60223 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:55:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001A9555@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:48:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14098846 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:48:24 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FNmIE19406 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:48:19 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.175.183]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031015234813.MTED21489.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:48:13 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8DDCBF.57D6DAFC@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:48:15 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: That Study on Misconceptions and Media References: <3F8DD339.99BF47E4@maynor.net> <002101c39374$3c5504c0$facadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > This gives a bit more info from that study we were talking about > > recently re people's misconceptions in relation to their news sources: > > > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A27061-2003Oct14.html > This is old news. It added some details that I hadn't read in the original stories. But then I haven't been totally on top of followups to that original news. > I want to hear > exactly what was in the girl's > underwear. What girl's underwear? Wait -- I saw a subtitle or blurb or something mentioning underwear in relation to Kobe Whathisname -- the basketball(?) player accused of rape. Is that the girl you're talking about? I must confess to total ignorance on that topic. I had never heard of Kobe before this rape story, and I have not followed it. Not that it's not perhaps interesting. There's simply too much news, too little time. So some news things I ignore -- things that I don't think are really important in trying to be an -- like the news about that pregnant woman supposedly murdered by her husband in California last year -- whatever happened about that? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 18:56:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9FNuQHB006977 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:56:26 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B34311E60223; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:55:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B89E1E60224 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:55:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A09B93@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:48:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14098850 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:48:24 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FNmJE19415 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:48:19 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-196.gwi.net [216.195.151.196]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9FNmHYp064572 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:48:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015194626.00bc03a0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:48:22 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: condo democracy In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >One of the issues that arose during design was whether we wanted to >install placebo >thermostats or real thermostats. That's great. I could use a placebo thermostat. I know for a fact that my perception of hot and cold has very little to do with what the actual temperature in the house is. I sometimes go look at the thermostat and tell myself that I should feel fine and then I walk away and leave the furnace alone. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 19:02:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G02FHB007089 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:02:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4842E1E60221; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:01:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E561E60220 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:01:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A09B99@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:54:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14099068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:54:13 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FNsCE19902 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:54:13 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-196.gwi.net [216.195.151.196]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9FNsBQU016981 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:54:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015195211.00bc3460@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:54:15 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Monhegan in the winter In-Reply-To: <3F8DCC02.CAEC9546@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015173252.00b19af0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015180448.00b3eb88@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >What would visiting Monhegan in mid-winter be like? Does the ferry do >its regular runs? Are there places for visitors to stay and to eat? > -- Natalie Miss Natalie, why are you asking?? Surely you would not like to be cold on an island in Maine in the winter!! The only lodging place that I believe is open in the winter is here: http://www.shiningsails.com/island.html There are no restaurants open in the winter. Possibly there is a grocery store open. Some of the rooms to rent at Shining Sails are efficiencies. One would have to cook for oneself or get in good with a native. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 19:06:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G06SHB007122 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:06:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 284081E60223; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:05:15 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE72F1E60220 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:05:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A09BA4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:58:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14099198 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:58:26 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FNwPE20222 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:58:25 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-196.gwi.net [216.195.151.196]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9FNw3Qc017599; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:58:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015194026.00b709b0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:44:44 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: more photos In-Reply-To: <3F8DCC02.CAEC9546@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015173252.00b19af0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015180448.00b3eb88@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:36 PM 10/15/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >"clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > > > Monhegan is somewhat noted in that the lobstermen there fish in the dead of > > winter when all others have quit (gives them a good market). Also, after a > >What would visiting Monhegan in mid-winter be like? Does the ferry do >its regular runs? Are there places for visitors to stay and to eat? I don't know. Perhaps with sufficient early planning, one could find a place to stay---there are all sorts of houses or cottages, some probably equipped for winter. As for eating, you probably would have to fend for yourself---carrying the basics and augmenting with whatever came over on the boat; I doubt that any of the very few restaurants would be open. Bonnie can probably answer better as to what the typical "tourist" season is, but my guess is that after about 1 November, things shut down. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 19:06:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G06THB007125 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:06:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7B68D1E60223; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:05:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D2D91E60220 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:05:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A09BB3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:58:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14099202 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:58:27 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FNwRE20227 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:58:27 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-196.gwi.net [216.195.151.196]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9FNw3Qe017599; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:58:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015194502.00b6b408@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:47:44 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: more photos In-Reply-To: <3F8DCD0D.CB262C32@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015173252.00b19af0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015182619.00b6e3f0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:41 PM 10/15/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >"clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > > > I don't know what it's worth, but I doubt like hell > > that you or I could afford it. > >I started to ask how much I could get it for. I was thinking maybe a >simple swap -- like whoever owns it might like to live here in my house >and we could make an even trade. Jamie (or James, as he now is known in artistic circles) doesn't live there year around. I believe that he lives in Tenants Harbor, which is on the same mainland peninsula as Port Clyde (where the boat leaves for Monhegan). I have no idea how he would accept the notion of a swap. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 19:06:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G06VHB007133 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:06:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DA9A01E60223; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:05:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC57E1E60220 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:05:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A09BB4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:58:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14099206 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:58:28 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FNwSE20232 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:58:28 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-196.gwi.net [216.195.151.196]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9FNw3Qg017599; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:58:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015195106.00b66dc8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:51:47 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Fake Letters In-Reply-To: References: <3F8DCE9F.2080004@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:52 PM 10/15/2003 -0700, Ann Borkin wrote: >On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > > > I beg your pardon, Rita, you misunderstand me. > > > > > > No, I understand you -- despite your comma splices. > > >OhmyGOD I hope this is a joke, comma splices are kool, Rita is a >blue-nose rubberhead grammar fascista if she is serious. Not only that, she looks like she probably could hurt you. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 19:06:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G06WHB007142 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:06:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 32DD01E60224; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:05:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04B3C1E60223 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:05:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A09BA6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:58:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14099210 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:58:30 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9FNwTE20237 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:58:29 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-196.gwi.net [216.195.151.196]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9FNw3Qi017599; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:58:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015195307.00b717e0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:57:58 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Fake Letters In-Reply-To: <001a01c39373$36a040e0$facadece@0018079268> References: <001b01c392d4$e9e002c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8D2944.2568C469@maynor.net> <000301c3933e$28f97b80$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DC46F.E39D7B4C@maynor.net> <002801c3936c$a6682520$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DCE0A.CA7854B2@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:22 PM 10/15/2003 -0500, Doris Markland wrote: >Learning about wars by reading books >by "experts" may be like learning about >religion by reading books written by >"experts". It's all in the head. Granted---but what else is there? I suppose that with respect to religion, one can claim a private revelation (at least that tradition lives on), but what does one do about war? cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 19:18:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G0IkHB007352 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:18:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 941D41E60226; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:17:33 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6227B1E60224 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:17:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A09C03@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:10:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14100050 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:10:44 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G0AiE21645 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:10:44 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.175.183]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031016001039.OEKE1828.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:10:39 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8DE201.509864DD@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:10:41 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: condo democracy References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen wrote: > > >From: Natalie Maynor > >world or work world or whatever. I am happy that democracy doesn't > >extend to my thermostat. > > I may have mentioned that we're engaged in building a new library building > (http://se-libg-cam.ads.iu.edu/ when it's not too dark). One of the issues > that arose during design was whether we wanted to install placebo > thermostats or real thermostats. Of course, I can't disclose the answer to > that question here. It's a matter of homeland security. I should add that by "my thermostat" above, I meant in my -- my . I can live with democracy at work re thermostats in offices, just as I would with a local democracy within a family if I had a family living in this house. But I don't want to extend the democratic spirit to neighbors -- iow, I don't want to share my thermostat with people who happen to live next door. I did, however, once share a water-heater with my next-door neighbor. We ended up getting married. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 19:19:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G0JRHB007365 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:19:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 93E981E60223; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:18:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6590F1E60220 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:18:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A09C25@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:11:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14100079 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:11:25 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G0BPE21688 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:11:25 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.175.183]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031016001120.OERC1828.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:11:20 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8DE22A.A0DB1F8F@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:11:22 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: more photos References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015173252.00b19af0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015182619.00b6e3f0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015194009.00bb30d0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > I doubt Jamie Wyeth would like to move to Mississippi for the summers. But are you sure? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 19:21:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G0L0HB007396 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:21:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8BC381E60223; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:19:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E0311E60220 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:19:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A09C0B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:12:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14100137 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:12:58 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G0CwE21830 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:12:58 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.175.183]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031016001252.OFGT1828.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:12:52 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8DE284.69766CF4@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:12:52 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: more photos References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015173252.00b19af0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015180448.00b3eb88@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015194026.00b709b0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > >What would visiting Monhegan in mid-winter be like? Does the ferry do > >its regular runs? Are there places for visitors to stay and to eat? > > I don't know. Perhaps with sufficient early planning, one could find a > place to stay---there are all sorts of houses or cottages, some probably > equipped for winter. As for eating, you probably would have to fend for > yourself---carrying the basics and augmenting with whatever came over on > the boat; I doubt that any of the very few restaurants would be > open. Bonnie can probably answer better as to what the typical "tourist" > season is, but my guess is that after about 1 November, things shut down. This does not sound promising. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 19:21:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G0LwHB007421 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:21:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F3F9E1E60228; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:20:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C60691E60227 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:20:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A09C12@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:13:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14100194 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:13:55 -0400 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G0DtE21941 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:13:55 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9G0DraT013657 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:13:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F8DE285.3090203@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:12:53 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: <3F8DCE9F.2080004@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015195106.00b66dc8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 03:52 PM 10/15/2003 -0700, Ann Borkin wrote: > >> On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: >> > > I beg your pardon, Rita, you misunderstand me. >> > >> > >> > No, I understand you -- despite your comma splices. >> > >> OhmyGOD I hope this is a joke, comma splices are kool, Rita is a >> blue-nose rubberhead grammar fascista if she is serious. > > > Not only that, she looks like she probably could hurt you. Tee hee! I'm so tuff! -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 19:23:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G0NwHB007458 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:23:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BD89D1E60228; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:22:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DF371E60227 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:22:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A09C3D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:15:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14100315 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:15:55 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G0FtE22149 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:15:55 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.175.183]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031016001550.OGKL1828.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:15:50 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8DE338.DA73859@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:15:52 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: more photos References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015173252.00b19af0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015182619.00b6e3f0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015194502.00b6b408@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > I have no idea how he would accept the notion of a swap. I was, of course, talking about a permanent trade, not a house-swap for vacation purposes. I want to own that house, not just live in it for a while. Then again, that might not be a good idea. I might have to contend with boilers. Did I mention that that cute house on Swan Lake sold quickly? Or I guess it did. It vanished from the realtor.com website (or wherever it was I had found it). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 19:27:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G0RgHB007542 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:27:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D9FC91E60229; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:26:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA5A51E60220 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:26:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A09C32@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:19:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14100498 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:19:35 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G0JYE22494 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:19:34 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9G0JVBS000786 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:19:33 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000401c3937c$467b0140$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <001b01c392d4$e9e002c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8D2944.2568C469@maynor.net> <000301c3933e$28f97b80$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DC46F.E39D7B4C@maynor.net> <002801c3936c$a6682520$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DCE0A.CA7854B2@maynor.net> <001a01c39373$36a040e0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DDB19.A4B36B54@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Fake Letters Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:27:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > brain.) I now know the subthread you were responding to: the one about > WWII. While dinner was cooking, I picked Gene's brains a bit. And mine. The young men in 1941, you must remember, had never experienced a war in their lifetime or the threat of a war. They had not climbed under their desks to protect themselves from an A-bomb. They had never heard countries arguing, as we do today. They had never heard of protesters. They were brought up to mind and to do right. They had always been perfectly safe and assumed they always would be safe. They were athletes, many of them. They thought they could lick anyone. They loved their families and their country. Like the young people today who don't think they could be killed in a car accident, the young people of 1941 didn't think they could be killed in a war. It was, in fact, the furthest thing from their minds. (This cannot be said today) They knew that people had been tyrranized and killed. They knew that we had been attacked. Motives were strong. They did, yes, line up to volunteer. They wanted to go. They wanted to kick ass, altho that wasn't a term then. Gene volunteered so he could get AF or navy but they were full and he got Army. And he didn't care. He still wanted to go. He wanted to go from the beginning and so did everyone he knew. A lot of them didn't come back. But don't say they didn't want to go or that in any numbers they tried to evade. I just would doubt that. - D. M. I was thinking it was the subthread about who volunteered now and > why -- about why people are soldiers in Iraq right now. That is > potentially a controversial topic, I guess, but I don't think our > discussion of it was controversial, except for JMW's illogic in seeming > to think that I thought these soldiers were all ignorant, which I hope I > clarified as being his illogic and not my belief. > > Re nothing in my experience conflicting with Marty's comments about > WWII: Everything in my experience conflicted with them. But I have not > read the books Marty mentioned or seen the statistics that my fuzzy > brain vaguely remembers that he quoted last night. Nor is my experience > as one who remembers WWII. I was alive during a bit more than half of > the US's involvement in WWII, but I claim no clear memories of it. I > did grow up (in its immediate shadows) with the impression that most of > the volunteers volunteered because they thought they should fight for > the country. My uncle's e-mail that I quoted here is pretty much what I > had always thought about people's attitudes -- not about details like > the choice of volunteering vs waiting to be drafted, but the idea that > the war had to be fought and that they (the young men of the time) would > go fight it. > > > Learning about wars by reading books > > by "experts" may be like learning about > > religion by reading books written by > > "experts". It's all in the head. > > As I said, I haven't read the books Marty mentioned, but I thought they > included figures, etc. In that sense books are a better source than > first-hand experience since first-hand experience is for most people > limited -- limited regionally or by class or age group or (to lump those > together) by whatever social (in its general sense) milieu you happen to > be in. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 19:28:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G0SeHB007567 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:28:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 050271E60227; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:27:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA93C1E60220 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:27:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001A95FA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:20:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14100548 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:20:37 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G0KbE22578 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:20:37 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9G0KYBS002817 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:20:35 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000901c3937c$6befa0c0$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <001b01c392d4$e9e002c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8D2944.2568C469@maynor.net> <000301c3933e$28f97b80$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DC46F.E39D7B4C@maynor.net> <002801c3936c$a6682520$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DCE0A.CA7854B2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015194310.00bbc9b0@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: Re: Fake Letters Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:28:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Learning about wars by reading books > >by "experts" may be like learning about > >religion by reading books written by > >"experts". It's all in the head. > > - D. M. > > Not the same at all. Drawing conclusions about how the population of an > entire country responded to a war by extrapolating from what one > experienced in one town in the heartland of that country is just > nonsense. Have you not yet noticed that much of this country is very, very > different from Nebraska??! > > > bonnie > But of course. All the more reason to be grateful for and to Nebraska. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 19:30:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G0UXHB007622 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:30:33 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D44271E60227; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:29:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A20161E60220 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:29:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A09C4D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:22:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14100634 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:22:30 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G0MUE22755 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:22:30 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.175.183]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031016002225.OJEQ1828.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:22:25 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8DE4C3.EE95A67E@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:22:27 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Monhegan in the winter References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015173252.00b19af0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015180448.00b3eb88@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015195211.00bc3460@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > >What would visiting Monhegan in mid-winter be like? Does the ferry do > >its regular runs? Are there places for visitors to stay and to eat? > > -- Natalie > > Miss Natalie, why are you asking?? Surely you would not like to be cold on > an island in Maine in the winter!! I think adventures like that are exciting. This is aside from whether I want to move permanently into Jamie's house, of course. That might be harder to handle. But a short visit to a Maine island in winter might be fun. (I guess I could just go to the Blaney's island. They flee it in winter, so I'd have the whole island to myself.) > The only lodging place that I believe is open in the winter is here: > > http://www.shiningsails.com/island.html It looks pleasant. It says bring warm clothes. > There are no restaurants open in the winter. Possibly there is a grocery > store open. Some of the rooms to rent at Shining Sails are > efficiencies. One would have to cook for oneself or get in good with a native. I liked what I read about the winter lobstering. I could get in good with a lobster fisherman and eat well, as long as he didn't make me see the lobster while it was still alive and think about its death. He would also have to be the cook. I could just sit there like Ms Queen Bee and feast on his bounty. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 19:36:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G0aLHB007854 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:36:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8C3481E60228; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:35:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ADC21E60227 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:35:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A09C59@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:28:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14100894 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:28:18 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G0SIE23212 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:28:18 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-196.gwi.net [216.195.151.196]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9G0SGQU022156 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:28:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015202736.00bc5ce8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:28:20 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: more photos In-Reply-To: <3F8DE22A.A0DB1F8F@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015173252.00b19af0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015182619.00b6e3f0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015194009.00bb30d0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >bonniev wrote: > > > I doubt Jamie Wyeth would like to move to Mississippi for the summers. > >But are you sure? > -- Natalie No, I'm not positive. You could ask. There must be things to paint in Mississippi. It might start a whole new body of work for him. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 19:37:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G0baHB007857 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:37:36 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C72501E60228; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:36:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98CF71E60227 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:36:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A09C7B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:29:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14100944 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:29:33 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G0TXE23328 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:29:33 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.175.183]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031016002928.OMNC1828.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:29:28 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8DE66A.AD00A706@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:29:30 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: <001b01c392d4$e9e002c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8D2944.2568C469@maynor.net> <000301c3933e$28f97b80$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DC46F.E39D7B4C@maynor.net> <002801c3936c$a6682520$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DCE0A.CA7854B2@maynor.net> <001a01c39373$36a040e0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DDB19.A4B36B54@maynor.net> <000401c3937c$467b0140$facadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > brain.) I now know the subthread you were responding to: the one > about > > WWII. > > While dinner was cooking, I picked Gene's > brains a bit. And mine. > > The young men in 1941, you must remember, > had never experienced a war in their lifetime > or the threat of a war. They had not climbed > under their desks to protect themselves from > an A-bomb. They had never heard countries > arguing, as we do today. They had never heard of protesters. They were > brought up to mind and to do right. They had always been perfectly safe > and assumed they always would be safe. > > They were athletes, many of them. They thought they could lick anyone. > They loved their families and their country. Like the young people > today who don't think they could be killed in a car accident, the young > people of 1941 didn't think they could be killed in a war. > It was, in fact, the furthest thing from their minds. (This cannot be > said today) > > They knew that people had been tyrranized > and killed. They knew that we had been > attacked. Motives were strong. > > They did, yes, line up to volunteer. They wanted to go. They wanted to > kick ass, altho > that wasn't a term then. > > Gene volunteered so he could get AF or navy but they were full and he > got Army. And he > didn't care. He still wanted to go. He wanted > to go from the beginning and so did everyone > he knew. > > A lot of them didn't come back. > > But don't say they didn't want to go or that > in any numbers they tried to evade. I just > would doubt that. And (since you wrote this in response to my posting) don't say that I have said anything in disagreement with what you said here. It is exactly what I have always heard and believed. And it is exactly what my uncle's e-mail that I quoted here said, except for the fact that he said that anybody who volunteered got the service of choice -- that was no doubt based on his experience and that of his friends -- iow, another example of seeing reality as what you see in your immediate environment. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 19:38:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G0cGHB007881 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:38:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9FF461E6022A; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:37:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7134C1E60229 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:37:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A09C70@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:30:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14100987 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:30:13 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G0UDE23442 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:30:13 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-196.gwi.net [216.195.151.196]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9G0UBQU022461 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:30:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015202927.00b30e70@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:30:16 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Monhegan in the winter In-Reply-To: <3F8DE4C3.EE95A67E@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015173252.00b19af0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015180448.00b3eb88@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015195211.00bc3460@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > But a short visit to a Maine island in winter might >be fun. (I guess I could just go to the Blaney's island. They flee it >in winter, so I'd have the whole island to myself.) > -- Natalie If you go, take me along. I'd love to do that -- Monhegan or Ironbound. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 19:40:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G0eVHB007914 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:40:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 241531E60229; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:39:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA5FD1E60228 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:39:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A09C79@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:32:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14101060 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:32:29 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G0WSE23578 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:32:28 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-196.gwi.net [216.195.151.196]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9G0WRYp072153 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:32:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015203103.00ba0da8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:32:31 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Fake Letters In-Reply-To: <000401c3937c$467b0140$facadece@0018079268> References: <001b01c392d4$e9e002c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8D2944.2568C469@maynor.net> <000301c3933e$28f97b80$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DC46F.E39D7B4C@maynor.net> <002801c3936c$a6682520$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DCE0A.CA7854B2@maynor.net> <001a01c39373$36a040e0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DDB19.A4B36B54@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >The young men in 1941, you must remember, >had never experienced a war in their lifetime >or the threat of a war. > - D. M. I guess those would be the young men in Nebraska. Some of the young men in NYC, for example, knew all about war. Their families had fled from countries that were all about war and persecution. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 19:42:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G0gWHB007952 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:42:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C8DF41E6022A; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:41:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A0571E60229 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:41:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A09C96@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:34:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14101186 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:34:29 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G0YTE23772 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:34:29 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.175.183]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031016003424.OONN1828.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:34:24 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8DE792.4E27F98E@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:34:26 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: <001b01c392d4$e9e002c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8D2944.2568C469@maynor.net> <000301c3933e$28f97b80$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DC46F.E39D7B4C@maynor.net> <002801c3936c$a6682520$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DCE0A.CA7854B2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015194310.00bbc9b0@pop.gwi.net> <000901c3937c$6befa0c0$facadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > > >Learning about wars by reading books > > >by "experts" may be like learning about > > >religion by reading books written by > > >"experts". It's all in the head. > > > - D. M. > > > > Not the same at all. Drawing conclusions about how the population of > an > > entire country responded to a war by extrapolating from what one > > experienced in one town in the heartland of that country is just > > nonsense. Have you not yet noticed that much of this country is very, > very > > different from Nebraska??! > > > > > > bonnie > > > > But of course. All the more reason > to be grateful for and to Nebraska. ? You may be grateful for living where you do (as I am), but that isn't really relevant to Bonnie's point, iiuc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 19:42:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G0gZHB007954 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:42:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EBF821E60229; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:41:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE4591E60228 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:41:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A09C78@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:34:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14101193 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:34:32 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G0YWE23783 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:34:32 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-196.gwi.net [216.195.151.196]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9G0YVYp072560 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:34:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015203252.00bc8888@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:34:35 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Fake Letters In-Reply-To: <000901c3937c$6befa0c0$facadece@0018079268> References: <001b01c392d4$e9e002c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8D2944.2568C469@maynor.net> <000301c3933e$28f97b80$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DC46F.E39D7B4C@maynor.net> <002801c3936c$a6682520$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DCE0A.CA7854B2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015194310.00bbc9b0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >But of course. All the more reason >to be grateful for and to Nebraska. > - D. M. Very definitely. And also all the more reason not to draw conclusions about the whole country from what one sees and experiences in Nebraska. At the risk of irritating some, the Inn yesterday was filled with Mid-Westerners and I had a very pleasant time with them. I am now done Inn-sitting for the season. Yippee!! bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 19:54:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G0sKHB008265 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:54:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0C5B11E60229; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:53:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEC7A1E60228 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:53:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A09CAF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:46:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14101610 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:46:17 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G0kHE24613 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:46:17 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.175.183]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031016004612.OFOA1781.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:46:12 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8DEA56.3C4E5C30@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:46:14 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: more photos References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015173252.00b19af0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015182619.00b6e3f0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015194009.00bb30d0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015202736.00bc5ce8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > No, I'm not positive. You could ask. There must be things to paint in > Mississippi. It might start a whole new body of work for him. Yes, there are surely paintable things. He could live happily in my house while spending his days out at Noxubee Refuge painting alligators and stuff. Or he could go down to the coast (though it would not be an easy commute if he planned to sleep here in my/his house) and follow in Walter Anderson's footsteps. Or he could just sit in his backyard here and paint the ugly cedar tree. The list could go on and on. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 19:56:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G0uqHB008378 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:56:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B630D1E60229; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:54:29 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81C3F1E60228 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:54:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A09CC3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:47:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14101659 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:47:40 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G0leE24729 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:47:40 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.175.183]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031016004735.OGAU1781.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:47:35 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8DEAA9.E038FCC0@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:47:37 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Monhegan in the winter References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015173252.00b19af0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015180448.00b3eb88@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015195211.00bc3460@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015202927.00b30e70@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > > But a short visit to a Maine island in winter might > >be fun. (I guess I could just go to the Blaney's island. They flee it > >in winter, so I'd have the whole island to myself.) > > -- Natalie > > If you go, take me along. I'd love to do that -- Monhegan or Ironbound. That sounds good. I would be scared to do it if it really meant I would have to know how to deal with the elements alone. Having an experienced downeaster would make it much less scary. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 19:58:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G0wfHB008393 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:58:41 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 07B931E6022B; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:57:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C93771E60229 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:57:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A09CBF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:50:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14101766 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:50:38 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G0ocE24930 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:50:38 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.175.183]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031016005033.OHCU1781.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:50:33 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8DEB5B.2633CA74@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:50:35 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: <001b01c392d4$e9e002c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8D2944.2568C469@maynor.net> <000301c3933e$28f97b80$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DC46F.E39D7B4C@maynor.net> <002801c3936c$a6682520$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DCE0A.CA7854B2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015194310.00bbc9b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015203252.00bc8888@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > At the risk of irritating some, the Inn yesterday was filled with > Mid-Westerners and I had a very pleasant time with them. Why is there a risk of irritating anybody with that statement? Did you mean to say UNpleasant? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 20:00:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G10KHB008454 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:00:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1BF731E6022D; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:59:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E18841E6022C for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:59:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A09CB3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:52:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14101811 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:52:17 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G0qHE25046 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:52:17 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9G0qEBS002691 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:52:15 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <002101c39380$d8266e00$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <001b01c392d4$e9e002c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8D2944.2568C469@maynor.net> <000301c3933e$28f97b80$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DC46F.E39D7B4C@maynor.net> <002801c3936c$a6682520$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DCE0A.CA7854B2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015195307.00b717e0@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: Re: Fake Letters Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:00:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Granted---but what else is there? I suppose that with respect to religion, > one can claim a private revelation (at least that tradition lives on), but > what does one do about war? > > cwv I understand. I think that may be what Tom Brokaw was trying to address. Corny as it may sound to people today, I think he tried to capture what people were feeling before, during and after WWII. I think he felt someone needed to address it from that angle. It complements, not corrects, other versions. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 20:02:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G12UHB008529 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:02:30 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 807131E6022B; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:01:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EBF61E60229 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:01:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001A9691@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:54:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14101930 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:54:27 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G0sQE25262 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:54:26 -0400 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9G0sP2f005524 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:54:25 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9G0sOJC005505 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:54:25 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031015175508.00a376c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:55:57 -0700 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Beer Bread Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I like it. Made with Heineken. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 20:04:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G14FHB008552 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:04:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B34EF1E6022C; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:03:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 819701E6022B for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:03:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A09CED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:56:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14102100 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:56:12 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G0uCE25645 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:56:12 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9G0u9BS010348 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:56:10 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <003f01c39381$642c6080$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <001b01c392d4$e9e002c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8D2944.2568C469@maynor.net> <000301c3933e$28f97b80$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DC46F.E39D7B4C@maynor.net> <002801c3936c$a6682520$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DCE0A.CA7854B2@maynor.net> <001a01c39373$36a040e0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DDB19.A4B36B54@maynor.net> <000401c3937c$467b0140$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DE66A.AD00A706@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Fake Letters Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:04:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > And (since you wrote this in response to my posting) don't say that I > have said anything in disagreement with what you said here. It is > exactly what I have always heard and believed. And it is exactly what > my uncle's e-mail that I quoted here said, except for the fact that he > said that anybody who volunteered got the service of choice -- that was > no doubt based on his experience and that of his friends -- iow, another > example of seeing reality as what you see in your immediate environment. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > No, I was not responding to you except to answer your question about my concern, or whatever, in response to another. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 20:08:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G18fHB008623 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:08:41 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B4A171E6022C; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:07:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81A071E60229 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:07:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001A96AD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:00:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14102284 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:00:38 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G10cE26046 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:00:38 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9G10LBS018496 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:00:36 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <004801c39381$fa6fc8c0$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <001b01c392d4$e9e002c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8D2944.2568C469@maynor.net> <000301c3933e$28f97b80$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DC46F.E39D7B4C@maynor.net> <002801c3936c$a6682520$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DCE0A.CA7854B2@maynor.net> <001a01c39373$36a040e0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DDB19.A4B36B54@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015203103.00ba0da8@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: Re: Fake Letters Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:08:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >The young men in 1941, you must remember, > >had never experienced a war in their lifetime > >or the threat of a war. > > - D. M. > > I guess those would be the young men in Nebraska. Some of the young men in > NYC, for example, knew all about war. Their families had fled from > countries that were all about war and persecution. > > > bonnie No, Bonnie. There were immigrants in Nebraska too, and Iowa. (We were Iowans). All the more reason to fight persecution. And still the young don't think they could be killed. Marty wondered why it was harder, as time went on, to recruit. Well, duh. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 20:10:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G1A5HB008650 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:10:05 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8B6F31E60229; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:08:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5895B1E60228 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:08:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A09CF4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:02:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14102354 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:02:01 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G11kE26184 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:01:46 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9G11hBS021195 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:01:44 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <004b01c39382$2b1f29c0$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <001b01c392d4$e9e002c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8D2944.2568C469@maynor.net> <000301c3933e$28f97b80$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DC46F.E39D7B4C@maynor.net> <002801c3936c$a6682520$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DCE0A.CA7854B2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015194310.00bbc9b0@pop.gwi.net> <000901c3937c$6befa0c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DE792.4E27F98E@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Fake Letters Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:09:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Doris Markland wrote: > > > > > >Learning about wars by reading books > > > >by "experts" may be like learning about > > > >religion by reading books written by > > > >"experts". It's all in the head. > > > > - D. M. > > > > > > Not the same at all. Drawing conclusions about how the population of > > an > > > entire country responded to a war by extrapolating from what one > > > experienced in one town in the heartland of that country is just > > > nonsense. Have you not yet noticed that much of this country is very, > > very > > > different from Nebraska??! > > > > > > > > > bonnie > > > > > > > But of course. All the more reason > > to be grateful for and to Nebraska. > > ? You may be grateful for living where you do (as I am), but that isn't > really relevant to Bonnie's point, iiuc. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > That wasn't the point of my post. But, see, how easily I am suckered in, after saying I had wised up?? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 20:10:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G1A4HB008647 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:10:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E9E0F1E60229; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:08:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B95ED1E60228 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:08:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001A96BD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:02:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14102350 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:02:01 -0400 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G11jE26180 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:01:45 -0400 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h9G0bQu7013843 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:37:27 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:01:57 -0500 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <18410466080.20031015200157@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: West Wing? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What happened to West Wing? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 20:12:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G1CNHB008692 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:12:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 18F131E6022D; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:11:10 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDB621E60228 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:11:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A09CF1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:04:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14102470 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:03:21 -0400 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G13KE26385 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:03:21 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9G13J8e003751 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:03:20 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3F8DEE18.4040705@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:02:16 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: <001b01c392d4$e9e002c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8D2944.2568C469@maynor.net> <000301c3933e$28f97b80$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DC46F.E39D7B4C@maynor.net> <002801c3936c$a6682520$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DCE0A.CA7854B2@maynor.net> <001a01c39373$36a040e0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DDB19.A4B36B54@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015203103.00ba0da8@pop.gwi.net> <004801c39381$fa6fc8c0$facadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The young men in 1941 *sniff*. They were Saints I tellya, Saints! 'Cept fer that pesky Jack Kerouac and his group of bums. Doris Markland wrote: >>>The young men in 1941, you must remember, >>>had never experienced a war in their lifetime >>>or the threat of a war. >>> - D. M. >>> >>I guess those would be the young men in Nebraska. Some of the young >> > men in > >>NYC, for example, knew all about war. Their families had fled from >>countries that were all about war and persecution. >> >> >>bonnie >> > > > No, Bonnie. There were immigrants > in Nebraska too, and Iowa. (We were > Iowans). > > All the more reason to fight persecution. > > And still the young don't think they > could be killed. > > Marty wondered why it was harder, as > time went on, to recruit. Well, duh. > > - D. M. > > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 20:12:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G1ChHB008695 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:12:43 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 030C91E60228; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:11:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C94411E60084 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:11:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A09CF9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:04:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14102559 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:04:40 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G14eE26525 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:04:40 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-196.gwi.net [216.195.151.196]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9G14cQU029375 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:04:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015210405.00bc8888@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:04:39 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Fake Letters In-Reply-To: <3F8DEB5B.2633CA74@maynor.net> References: <001b01c392d4$e9e002c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8D2944.2568C469@maynor.net> <000301c3933e$28f97b80$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DC46F.E39D7B4C@maynor.net> <002801c3936c$a6682520$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DCE0A.CA7854B2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015194310.00bbc9b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015203252.00bc8888@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >bonniev wrote: > > At the risk of irritating some, the Inn yesterday was filled with > > Mid-Westerners and I had a very pleasant time with them. > >Why is there a risk of irritating anybody with that statement? Did you >mean to say UNpleasant? -- Natalie Some might say that I'm indirectly bashing Southerners again. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 20:14:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G1E5HB008718 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:14:05 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 592BD1E6022D; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:12:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29F781E60084 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:12:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001A96C2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:06:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14102616 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:06:02 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G161E26651 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:06:01 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9G15xBS029892 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:06:00 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <005201c39382$c3634400$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <001b01c392d4$e9e002c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8D2944.2568C469@maynor.net> <000301c3933e$28f97b80$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DC46F.E39D7B4C@maynor.net> <002801c3936c$a6682520$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DCE0A.CA7854B2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015194310.00bbc9b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015203252.00bc8888@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: Re: Fake Letters Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:13:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >But of course. All the more reason > >to be grateful for and to Nebraska. > > - D. M. > > Very definitely. And also all the more reason not to draw conclusions > about the whole country from what one sees and experiences in Nebraska. Just one thought here. Gene served with a battalion (or whatever) of coal miners from Pennsylvania and city boys from the east coast. They all felt as he did. Other friends of ours have shared the thoughts and experiences of others they fought with from all over the country. I myself ended up knowing probably more servicemen from other states than from my own. > > At the risk of irritating some, the Inn yesterday was filled with > Mid-Westerners and I had a very pleasant time with them. I am now done > Inn-sitting for the season. Yippee!! Good for you. Do what's fun! - D. M. > > > bonnie > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 20:18:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G1IYHB008802 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:18:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 06F3B1E60228; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:17:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C96071E60084 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:17:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A09D1B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:10:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14102775 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:10:31 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G1AJE26955 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:10:20 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-196.gwi.net [216.195.151.196]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9G1AIYp078775 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:10:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015210926.00ba0da8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:10:23 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: West Wing? In-Reply-To: <18410466080.20031015200157@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >What happened to West Wing? >Karen I don't know. It should be on. Ironically, coincidentally, www.nbc.com is down. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 20:18:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G1IZHB008805 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:18:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 904FC1E60228; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:17:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61F931E60084 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:17:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001A96E7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:10:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14102780 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:10:32 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G1APE26960 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:10:25 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9G1AL8b010613 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:10:21 -0400 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9G1ALfC012898 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:10:21 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:08:03 -0400 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beer Bread Message-ID: <797376562.1066252083@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031015175508.00a376c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <4.2.2.20031015175508.00a376c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I like it. Made with Heineken. > > Betty I made mine with a Blue Moon Wheat Ale. Very good. Are you packed yet? Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 20:21:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G1LEHB008881 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:21:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 06BB11E60228; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:20:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBA9E1E60084 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:20:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A09D27@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:13:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14102882 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:13:11 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G1DBE27176 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:13:11 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-196.gwi.net [216.195.151.196]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9G1DAYp079431 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:13:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015211246.00b30e70@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:13:15 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: West Wing? In-Reply-To: <18410466080.20031015200157@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >What happened to West Wing? >Karen "Tonight's West Wing show will air 10/29." bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 20:24:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G1OPHB008920 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:24:25 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8E2B91E6022D; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:23:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 603241E60228 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:23:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A09D36@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:16:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14103016 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:16:22 -0400 Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G1GME27416 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:16:22 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.f.1a884941 (4262) for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:16:13 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:16:12 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] West Wing? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Welcome back, Karen! Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Sig under construction From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 20:24:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G1OeHB008940 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:24:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A4D321E6022E; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:23:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76A301E6022D for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:23:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A09D37@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:16:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14103031 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:16:37 -0400 Received: from ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G1GbE27448 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:16:37 -0400 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h9G1GWmN007090 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:16:33 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:16:46 -0500 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <286899536.20031015201646@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: West Wing? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015211246.00b30e70@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015211246.00b30e70@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, October 15, 2003, bonniev wrote: >>What happened to West Wing? >>Karen > "Tonight's West Wing show will air 10/29." > bonnie thx Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 20:26:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G1QiHB008990 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:26:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 941271E6022E; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:25:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61F7E1E6022D for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:25:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A09D3B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:18:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14103083 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:18:41 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G1IeE27601 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:18:40 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9G1IZW1000990 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:18:35 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9G1IYWq000962; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:18:34 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031015181909.00a34b80@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:20:06 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Beer Bread In-Reply-To: <797376562.1066252083@TWild.uri.edu> References: <4.2.2.20031015175508.00a376c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031015175508.00a376c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:08 PM 10/15/2003 -0400, Terry Wild wrote: >>I like it. Made with Heineken. >> >>Betty > > >I made mine with a Blue Moon Wheat Ale. Very good. > >Are you packed yet? Mostly. I keep sitting down and watching baseball. Go , Cubs! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 20:28:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G1StHB009026 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:28:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7D4421E6022E; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:27:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED931E6022D for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:27:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A09D51@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:20:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14103143 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:20:52 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G1KqE27753 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:20:52 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9G1KmBS000309 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:20:50 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <006f01c39384$d5be71e0$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <001b01c392d4$e9e002c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8D2944.2568C469@maynor.net> <000301c3933e$28f97b80$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DC46F.E39D7B4C@maynor.net> <002801c3936c$a6682520$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DCE0A.CA7854B2@maynor.net> <001a01c39373$36a040e0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DDB19.A4B36B54@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015203103.00ba0da8@pop.gwi.net> <004801c39381$fa6fc8c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DEE18.4040705@swbell.net> Subject: Re: Re: Fake Letters Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:28:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > The young men in 1941 *sniff*. They were Saints I tellya, > Saints! 'Cept fer that pesky Jack Kerouac and his group of > bums. Scarcely. Never said that. But they didn't run. And the beatniks came later. In huge numbers? *sniff* - D. M. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 20:36:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G1aDHB009198 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:36:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5B26A1E6022F; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:34:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 292041E6022E for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:34:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A09D60@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:28:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14103448 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:28:09 -0400 Received: from web20513.mail.yahoo.com (web20513.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9G1S9E28299 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:28:09 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20513.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:28:08 PDT Message-ID: <20031016012808.5252.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:28:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Att: Roy or Tony or Abht or Others? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F8DC6EE.A5104D90@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > While awaiting word from a Brit/American bilingual, > do any of you agree > with this textbook's choice of cracker as the > American parallel with > British biscuit? Oops -- I just noticed that I > wrote bisquit above. I > started doing that, I think, back when I started > noticing that some of > my students were majoring in something that looked > like bisquit -- it > was something involving business and information > technology. I find > myself doing it often now. I was beginning about my grasp of British spelling, with all the bisquiting. It has always been my understanding that what we regard as cookies here, are called biscuits in Britain. What we call crackers can be known as wafers in Britain; but there are other sorts of "crackers" for which they have different names. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 20:37:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G1bEHB009214 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:37:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EF50A1E6022E; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:36:00 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C10FD1E6022D for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:36:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001A9738@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:29:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14103562 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:29:11 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G1TBE28439 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:29:11 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.175.183]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031016012906.QBDG14434.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:29:06 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8DF464.FB153808@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:29:08 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: <001b01c392d4$e9e002c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8D2944.2568C469@maynor.net> <000301c3933e$28f97b80$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DC46F.E39D7B4C@maynor.net> <002801c3936c$a6682520$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DCE0A.CA7854B2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015195307.00b717e0@pop.gwi.net> <002101c39380$d8266e00$facadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > > > > Granted---but what else is there? I suppose that with respect to > religion, > > one can claim a private revelation (at least that tradition lives on), > but > > what does one do about war? > > > > cwv > > I understand. I think that may be what Tom Brokaw > was trying to address. Corny as it may sound to > people today, I think he tried to capture what people > were feeling before, during and after WWII. > I think he felt someone needed to address it from > that angle. It complements, not corrects, other > versions. Ok, I've already apologized for my fuzzy brain, so I won't apologize again. Why are we suddenly talking about Tom Brokaw? Was he mentioned before? What is the allusion -- i.e., when/where was he trying to address it? I enjoyed reading his autobiography, btw. I think I mentioned that before. I was a wee bit turned off by what struck me as big-headedness, but I still found the book interesting. (And, iirc, he said something in the preface that suggested that his mother also had my reaction -- something about her saying he sounded too full of himself.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 20:39:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G1dNHB009273 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:39:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 06FF51E60230; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:38:10 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7D2C1E6022E for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:38:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A09D7C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:31:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14103676 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:31:20 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G1VKE28587 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:31:20 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.175.183]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031016013115.QBUP14434.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:31:15 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8DF4E5.92FA16F0@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:31:17 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: <001b01c392d4$e9e002c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8D2944.2568C469@maynor.net> <000301c3933e$28f97b80$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DC46F.E39D7B4C@maynor.net> <002801c3936c$a6682520$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DCE0A.CA7854B2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015194310.00bbc9b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015203252.00bc8888@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015210405.00bc8888@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > >bonniev wrote: > > > At the risk of irritating some, the Inn yesterday was filled with > > > Mid-Westerners and I had a very pleasant time with them. > > > >Why is there a risk of irritating anybody with that statement? Did you > >mean to say UNpleasant? -- Natalie > > Some might say that I'm indirectly bashing Southerners again. I would find such an interpretation way, way weird. It did not enter my mind, and I can't imagine why it would have entered anybody else's mind. (But then I'm mutant, I realize.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 20:40:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G1epHB009296 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:40:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 487FE1E6022D; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:39:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A46C1E60228 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:39:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A09D88@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:32:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14103772 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:32:48 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G1WlE28698 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:32:48 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9G1Wi8b011149 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:32:44 -0400 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9G1WifC016016 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:32:44 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:30:26 -0400 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beer Bread Message-ID: <798719328.1066253426@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031015181909.00a34b80@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <4.2.2.20031015175508.00a376c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031015175508.00a376c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031015181909.00a34b80@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Mostly. I keep sitting down and watching baseball. Go , Cubs! > > Betty I completely understand! Go, Sox! Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 20:42:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G1geHB009342 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:42:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F234F1E6022D; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:41:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C47441E60228 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:41:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A09DA1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:34:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14103847 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:34:37 -0400 Received: from web20511.mail.yahoo.com (web20511.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.150]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9G1YbE28838 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:34:37 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20511.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:34:35 PDT Message-ID: <20031016013435.10618.qmail@web20511.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:34:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Fake Letters To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F8DCCBB.BA5F2@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I didn't remember that we were discussing > liberal-vs-conservative > stuff. I thought we were discussing things like who > joins the military > and for what reasons, something I think Doris would > have interesting > thoughts on, depending on how much her son knows > about why various other > people joined and on whether he has talked about > that. It is not necessarily the topic of discussion. Sometimes it is the mind-set. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 20:43:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G1hxHB009378 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:43:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1B0BF1E60231; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:42:45 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFF181E60230 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:42:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A09D87@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:35:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14103892 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:35:56 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G1ZtE28929 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:35:55 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.175.183]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031016013550.QDJS14434.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:35:50 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8DF5F8.6CE03545@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:35:52 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: <001b01c392d4$e9e002c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8D2944.2568C469@maynor.net> <000301c3933e$28f97b80$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DC46F.E39D7B4C@maynor.net> <002801c3936c$a6682520$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DCE0A.CA7854B2@maynor.net> <001a01c39373$36a040e0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DDB19.A4B36B54@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015203103.00ba0da8@pop.gwi.net> <004801c39381$fa6fc8c0$facadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > And still the young don't think they > could be killed. I don't think my uncle's e-mail that I posted here mentioned that, but it is something I've heard him say before about his WWII days -- that looking back he realized that he should have been more scared of dying but that at that age, people tend to feel invincible. (And his age was slightly older than people like Gene. I'm pretty sure it was his junior year in college when we got into WWII -- that he was a junior in school year '41-'42. He was born in 1920.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 20:47:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G1lZHB009455 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:47:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 201901E60230; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:46:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2DED1E6022E for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:46:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A09DA9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:39:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14104059 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:39:32 -0400 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9G1dVE29281 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:39:31 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:39:30 PDT Message-ID: <20031016013930.1515.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:39:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: condo democracy To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I may have mentioned that we're engaged in building > a new library building > (http://se-libg-cam.ads.iu.edu/ when it's not too > dark). One of the issues > that arose during design was whether we wanted to > install placebo > thermostats or real thermostats. Of course, I can't > disclose the answer to > that question here. It's a matter of homeland > security. Cover them all with duct tape, and no one will be the wiser. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 20:50:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G1o6HB009507 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:50:06 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2BF241E6022E; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:48:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F14BD1E60228 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:48:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A09DAD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:42:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14104121 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:42:02 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G1g2E29496 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:42:02 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.175.183]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031016014157.QFNO14434.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:41:57 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8DF767.DD372C8B@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:41:59 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: <001b01c392d4$e9e002c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8D2944.2568C469@maynor.net> <000301c3933e$28f97b80$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DC46F.E39D7B4C@maynor.net> <002801c3936c$a6682520$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DCE0A.CA7854B2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015194310.00bbc9b0@pop.gwi.net> <000901c3937c$6befa0c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DE792.4E27F98E@maynor.net> <004b01c39382$2b1f29c0$facadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > > Doris Markland wrote: > > > > > > > >Learning about wars by reading books > > > > >by "experts" may be like learning about > > > > >religion by reading books written by > > > > >"experts". It's all in the head. > > > > > - D. M. > > > > > > > > Not the same at all. Drawing conclusions about how the population > of > > > an > > > > entire country responded to a war by extrapolating from what one > > > > experienced in one town in the heartland of that country is just > > > > nonsense. Have you not yet noticed that much of this country is > very, > > > very > > > > different from Nebraska??! > > > > > > > > > > > > bonnie > > > > > > > > > > But of course. All the more reason > > > to be grateful for and to Nebraska. > > > > ? You may be grateful for living where you do (as I am), but that > isn't > > really relevant to Bonnie's point, iiuc. > > > That wasn't the point of my post. > > But, see, how easily I am suckered > in, after saying I had wised up?? No. I don't see how you were suckered in. I think the problem was that instead of explaining why you think that your Nebraska/Iowa experience was better than books, you simply said you were grateful to live there. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 20:56:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G1u5HB009611 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:56:05 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 74AED1E60230; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:54:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 474511E60228 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:54:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A09DBF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:48:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14104310 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:48:02 -0400 Received: from web20509.mail.yahoo.com (web20509.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.144]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9G1m0E29894 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:48:00 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20509.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:47:59 PDT Message-ID: <20031016014759.76076.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:47:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Fake Letters To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015203103.00ba0da8@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: > >The young men in 1941, you must remember, > >had never experienced a war in their lifetime > >or the threat of a war. > > - D. M. > > I guess those would be the young men in Nebraska. > Some of the young men in > NYC, for example, knew all about war. Their > families had fled from > countries that were all about war and persecution. Many of those young men from NYC went, as well. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 20:56:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G1uPHB009622 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:56:25 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7F19D1E6022E; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:55:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F5031E60228 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:55:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001A976B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:48:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14104328 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:48:12 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G1mBE29904 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:48:11 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.175.183]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031016014806.QHQA14434.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:48:06 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8DF8D8.9CDE5841@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:48:08 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: <001b01c392d4$e9e002c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8D2944.2568C469@maynor.net> <000301c3933e$28f97b80$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DC46F.E39D7B4C@maynor.net> <002801c3936c$a6682520$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DCE0A.CA7854B2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015194310.00bbc9b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015203252.00bc8888@pop.gwi.net> <005201c39382$c3634400$facadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > > >But of course. All the more reason > > >to be grateful for and to Nebraska. > > > - D. M. > > > > Very definitely. And also all the more reason not to draw conclusions > > about the whole country from what one sees and experiences in > Nebraska. > > Just one thought here. Gene served with > a battalion (or whatever) of coal miners > from Pennsylvania and city boys from the > east coast. They all felt as he did. Other > friends of ours have shared the thoughts and > experiences of others they fought with from > all over the country. I myself ended up knowing probably more > servicemen from > other states than from my own. But I thought we were talking about your not knowing anybody who evaded/avoided the war. Examples of servicemen you and Gene knew doesn't have much to do with not knowing evaders. NB: I am not saying there were all these evaders. The only one I've personally ever heard of was my parents' friend who moved to the desert island. What I'm saying here is not any kind of argument that there were tons of evaders. It's just that I don't think that mentioning servicepeople you've know has much to do with the question. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 20:59:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G1xtHB009676 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:59:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2994B1E6022E; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:58:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F01D81E60228 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:58:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A09DC5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:51:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14104504 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:51:52 -0400 Received: from web20503.mail.yahoo.com (web20503.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.138]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9G1ppE30196 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:51:51 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:51:51 PDT Message-ID: <20031016015151.31720.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:51:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Fake Letters To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015210405.00bc8888@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Some might say that I'm indirectly bashing > Southerners again. I'm glad I wasn't holding my breath. I'd been gone and done died by now. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 21:00:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G20KHB009704 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:00:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 89B861E6022E; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:59:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BF8A1E60228 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:59:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001A9791@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:52:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14104535 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:52:17 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G1qGE30256 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:52:16 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.175.183]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031016015207.QIZP14434.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:52:07 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8DF9CA.8A315B46@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:52:10 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beer Bread References: <4.2.2.20031015175508.00a376c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031015175508.00a376c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031015181909.00a34b80@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > Mostly. I keep sitting down and watching baseball. Go , Cubs! I thought I saw a headline somewhere saying they were out. I guess not. I don't know much about these modern teams. I've noticed the Cubs because a lunch friend of mine whose son works for Sears in Chicago won two tickets to one of the recent Cubs games and was offered some incredibly high price for them, but he chose to use the tickets, taking his girlfried to the game. On the playground in my youth it was the Yankees and the Dodgers. I was for the Yankees. I wanted to marry Mickey Mantle, as I think I've probably mentioned here before. (And I saw him hit a homerun in Yankee Stadium when I was twelve -- quite orgasmic.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 21:02:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G21xHB009724 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:01:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BD8721E60231; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:00:45 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EE7C1E60228 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:00:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A09DF2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:53:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14104645 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:53:56 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G1ruE30430 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:53:56 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.175.183]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031016015350.QJOA14434.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:53:50 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8DFA30.1C9838BA@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:53:52 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beer Bread References: <4.2.2.20031015175508.00a376c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031015175508.00a376c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031015181909.00a34b80@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU PS: Re Mickey Mantle. I might also have said here before that my desire at about age twelve was to marry a combination professional baseball player and Methodist preacher. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 21:02:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G22LHB009745 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:02:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 326281E60231; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:01:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 040991E6022E for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:01:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A09DD8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:54:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14104698 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:54:17 -0400 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G1sHE30499 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:54:17 -0400 Received: from EAGLE67 (client-151-197-197-149.ba-dsg.net [151.197.197.149]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4D3BD0 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:54:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <002601c39388$692d5600$95c5c597@EAGLE67> From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015173252.00b19af0@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: more photos Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:53:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "clyde w. voigtlander" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 5:34 PM Subject: more photos > About a week after hosting Acadiafest, Bonnie and I spent a few days on > Monhegan Island, about 12 miles off the coast. > > The photos are at: > > http://community.webshots.com/user/cwvoigt > > or > > http://tinyurl.com/r2o7 > > cwv > Awesome pics. alec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 21:06:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G26QHB009830 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:06:26 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D80711E6022E; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:05:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A84911E60228 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:05:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001A97A4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:58:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14104823 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:58:23 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G1wNE30755 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:58:23 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9G1wKBS020932 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:58:21 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001a01c3938a$1351be40$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <001b01c392d4$e9e002c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8D2944.2568C469@maynor.net> <000301c3933e$28f97b80$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DC46F.E39D7B4C@maynor.net> <002801c3936c$a6682520$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DCE0A.CA7854B2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015195307.00b717e0@pop.gwi.net> <002101c39380$d8266e00$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DF464.FB153808@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Fake Letters Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:03:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Doris Markland wrote: > > > > > > > > Granted---but what else is there? I suppose that with respect to > > religion, > > > one can claim a private revelation (at least that tradition lives on), > > but > > > what does one do about war? > > > > > > cwv > > > > I understand. I think that may be what Tom Brokaw > > was trying to address. Corny as it may sound to > > people today, I think he tried to capture what people > > were feeling before, during and after WWII. > > I think he felt someone needed to address it from > > that angle. It complements, not corrects, other > > versions. > > Ok, I've already apologized for my fuzzy brain, so I won't apologize > again. Why are we suddenly talking about Tom Brokaw? Was he mentioned > before? What is the allusion -- i.e., when/where was he trying to > address it? > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) His book "The Greatest Generation" (or something like that) addressed the subject of the men who fought in WWII and how they felt about it, etc. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 21:07:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G27BHB009838 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:07:11 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A09E07@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:58:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14104836 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:58:45 -0400 Received: from web20509.mail.yahoo.com (web20509.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.144]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9G1wjE30782 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:58:45 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20509.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:58:43 PDT Message-ID: <20031016015843.78587.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:58:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Fake Letters To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F8DF464.FB153808@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Ok, I've already apologized for my fuzzy brain, so I > won't apologize > again. Why are we suddenly talking about Tom > Brokaw? Was he mentioned > before? What is the allusion -- i.e., when/where > was he trying to > address it? > > I enjoyed reading his autobiography, btw. I think I > mentioned that > before. I was a wee bit turned off by what struck > me as big-headedness, > but I still found the book interesting. (And, iirc, > he said something > in the preface that suggested that his mother also > had my reaction -- > something about her saying he sounded too full of > himself.) It was M. Rosen who gave voice to his objection to the "Greatest Generation". There probably was not, is not, nor ever will be a greatest generation. Their are all tawdry or magnificent in one sense or another. Some have more distinguished moments than others. World War II was a succession of those moments, and there is nothing revisionist or corny about facts. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 21:13:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G2DdHB009982 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:13:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BDD741E60231; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:12:25 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FDCA1E6022E for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:12:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001A97D2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:05:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14105160 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:05:36 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G25aE31359 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:05:36 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-196.gwi.net [216.195.151.196]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9G25WYr088433; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:05:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015215216.00b6d9f0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:05:29 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Fake Letters In-Reply-To: <002101c39380$d8266e00$facadece@0018079268> References: <001b01c392d4$e9e002c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8D2944.2568C469@maynor.net> <000301c3933e$28f97b80$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DC46F.E39D7B4C@maynor.net> <002801c3936c$a6682520$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DCE0A.CA7854B2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015195307.00b717e0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:00 PM 10/15/2003 -0500, Doris Markland wrote: >I understand. I think that may be what Tom Brokaw >was trying to address. Corny as it may sound to >people today, I think he tried to capture what people My biological father was apparently 4F and in fact died during WWII. His brother wanted more than anything else to fly, so had his mother sign permission for him to enlist. Other than the desire to fly, I don't know what motivated him. Like many others, he flew the B-24 flying coffins over the Ploesti oilfields and did not come back. My stepfather was drafted into the infantry; the next two boys in his family similarly were drafted---one infantry, the other navy. The two in the infantry were wounded in action. I don't know if any particular thought or emotion galvanized dad (my stepfather). I do know that having fought in Italy, being shot, and spending considerable time in a German prison of war, he came home and his continual message to me was that resorting to war and/or violence to solve anything was subhumanly stupid. My vague notion is that his brothers (as well as his brothers-in-law, who also served) felt pretty much the same way. The notion of some higher cause or holy crusade fits well with people like Eisenhower, Churchill, (and on a much lower plane, Ambrose and on an abyssal level, Dubya) but I suspect that with the grunts who populated the foxholes and grubbed out the advances and took the punishment, there wasn't that much damned romance involved---and there still isn't. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 21:16:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G2G5HB010037 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:16:05 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E534F1E60231; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:14:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B759C1E6022E for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:14:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A09E1E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:08:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14105249 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:08:01 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G281E31540 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:08:01 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-196.gwi.net [216.195.151.196]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9G27wYr088757; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:08:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015220559.00b78cb8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:07:17 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: more photos In-Reply-To: <002601c39388$692d5600$95c5c597@EAGLE67> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015173252.00b19af0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:53 PM 10/15/2003 -0400, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: >Awesome pics. Thank you. Those were my first experience with a digital camera. I'm still not sure that they do the island justice. It's fun to try, however. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 21:18:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G2I2HB010072 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:18:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1861E1E60231; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:16:48 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBDA91E6022E for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:16:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A09E2C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:09:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14105386 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:09:59 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G29wE31713 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:09:58 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.175.183]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031016020953.QCHQ1828.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:09:53 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8DFDF3.46D6E847@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:09:55 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: Roy or Tony or Abht or Others? References: <20031016012808.5252.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > It has always been my understanding that what we > regard as cookies here, are called biscuits in > Britain. I know for sure that that is true. The biscuits I've had in England have always been what I would call cookies. > What we call crackers can be known as wafers > in Britain; but there are other sorts of "crackers" > for which they have different names. This is what I don't know -- I've eaten what I consider crackers in the U.K, but it was in circumstances when I had no reason to know what they were called. So what I've been wondering is whether the long-used Fromkin, Rodman, now with a new third author since Vicki Fromkin is dead, book is just plain wrong in linking British biscuit with US cracker or whether the British lump them together under the biscuit label. I just came sooo close to writing bisquit, but my awareness of the spelling is on high-alert because of our recent discussion of it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 21:23:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G2NYHB010232 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:23:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C7F891E60232; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:22:20 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A1041E60231 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:22:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A09E47@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:15:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14105675 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:15:31 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G2FVE32278 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:15:31 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-34.gwi.net [216.195.150.34]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9G2FTQU037987 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:15:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015221040.00bc5ce8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:11:01 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Att: Roy or Tony or Abht or Others? In-Reply-To: <20031016012808.5252.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> References: <3F8DC6EE.A5104D90@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >It has always been my understanding that what we >regard as cookies here, are called biscuits in >Britain. What we call crackers can be known as wafers >in Britain; but there are other sorts of "crackers" >for which they have different names. And then there are "crisps." bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 21:31:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G2VCHB010361 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:31:12 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3E28E1E60238; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:29:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E1191E60235 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:29:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A09E66@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:23:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14106094 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:23:09 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G2N8E00497 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:23:08 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.175.183]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031016022303.VIEU1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:23:03 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8E0109.FFA20E6C@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:23:05 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: <20031016013435.10618.qmail@web20511.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > > I didn't remember that we were discussing > > liberal-vs-conservative > > stuff. I thought we were discussing things like who > > joins the military > > and for what reasons, something I think Doris would > > have interesting > > thoughts on, depending on how much her son knows > > about why various other > > people joined and on whether he has talked about > > that. > > It is not necessarily the topic of discussion. > Sometimes it is the mind-set. What exactly is a "mind-set"? I sort of know what it means in some contexts, but I'm not sure I really understand it in general. I for sure don't know what it means in relation to what I wrote above -- as in the question of who joins the military and for what reasons. If "mind-sets" are things like liberal vs conservative, then I would say that my mind-set is a liberal one. But I can't see how liberal-conservative has anything at all to do with the question of who joins the military and why. And I'm not sure that the term "mind-set" is a good one. It suggests some kind of lock, which I do not believe is on my mind. I certainly hope not. Just yesterday or day before some of us were discussing tort reform in the cafeteria, and the person we jokingly refer to as our "token Republican" since he voted for Bush, though he calls himself an independent and announced the day the Iraq war started that he would not vote for Bush again, said "Well, you liberals are all against tort reform." I said, "No. I am a liberal in most ways, but I am a conservative in some ways." This is getting too long, and it's almost time to go to bed. The point is that I do not know exactly what "mind-sets" are and that my mind is not . I am a liberal on most issues, a conservative on some issues, and something in between on some issues. And that reminds me that I want us to discuss the illegal alien situation sometime since I have very mixed feelings about it that I'm trying to sort out. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 21:51:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G2pSHB010727 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:51:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 38F121E60232; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:50:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B26B1E60231 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:50:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A09EC3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:43:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14106880 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:43:25 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G2hOE01995 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:43:24 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9G2hLBS029850 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:43:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001b01c39390$5d2fe720$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <001b01c392d4$e9e002c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8D2944.2568C469@maynor.net> <000301c3933e$28f97b80$facadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015181811.00b8a5a8@pop.gwi.net> <3F8DCCBB.BA5F2@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Fake Letters Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:51:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I thought we were discussing things like who joins the military > and for what reasons, something I think Doris would have interesting > thoughts on, depending on how much her son knows about why various other > people joined and on whether he has talked about that. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Nope. Actually I don't know much about how the young men feel today, and my son doesn't talk much about his own life much less that of the men he works with. Too busy and too focused. No small talk. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 21:53:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G2rhHB010770 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:53:43 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B6F8F1E60232; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:52:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 878931E60231 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:52:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A09ED7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:45:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14106921 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:45:39 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f39.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G2jdE02114 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:45:39 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:45:33 -0700 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 02:45:33 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Fake Letters Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:45:33 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Oct 2003 02:45:33.0626 (UTC) FILETIME=[920A49A0:01C3938F] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Doris Markland >Marty wondered why it was harder, as >time went on, to recruit. Well, duh. I don't think I wondered this at all. You asserted that a draft was necessary at first because, as I understand your argument, the nation needed soldiers right away, and it wasn't certain that volunteers would be sufficient. As a hypothesis, this might have made sense for the first year after Pearl Harbor. But if, in fact, voluntarism was rampant, it would seem that by 1943 folks would have had plenty of time to queue up for service. And yet, from 1943-1945, the conscription of 6 million citizens was required. I submit that these are quite large numbers, and they suggest that large numbers of citizens weren't so eager to volunteer. It might be interesting, and probably is quite possible, to make a demographic comparison of draftees versus volunteers, and that might bear out Bonnie's assertion. But regardless, there were about 16 million people in military service during wwii. It appears to me (though I haven't checked this rigorously) that around half of them were draftees. I think a reasonable person might consider this a significant number, by which I mean precisely it's a number that signifies something. With regard to anecdotal evidence, I'm not prepared to discount it completely, but I note that asking a veteran, or for that matter a spouse, sister, brother, girlfriend, to explain their motivations five decades after the fact may not reveal much. Memories of such events may be gilded and shaped to fit popular fantasies. Another interesting thing to look at is Roosevelt's victory margins over time, including the war years. In 1932 he beat Hoover 22 million to 15 million; in 36 he beat Landon 27 to 16; in 40 he beat Wilkie 27 to 22; and in 44 he beat Dewey 25 to 22. This is still a pretty decisive win, but the trend line is pretty clear, and one might conclude that it reflects a divide in the electorate during a period when one might think solidarity would have been the order of the day (or it might be meaningless; maybe those 16 million service people were too far away from ballot boxes to participate, and maybe they were all Roosevelt voters; also, of course, Roosevelt didn't actually campaign, and Dewey's campaign apparently didn't explicitly criticize Roosevelt's conduct of the war...). _________________________________________________________________ Get 10MB of e-mail storage! Sign up for Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 22:01:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G31hHB010948 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:01:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 90A571E60239; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:00:29 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E7181E60232 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:00:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A09F2D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:53:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14107610 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:53:40 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f8.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G2reE02967 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:53:40 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:53:34 -0700 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 02:53:34 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Fake Letters Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:53:34 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Oct 2003 02:53:34.0672 (UTC) FILETIME=[B0C41500:01C39390] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor >between on some issues. And that reminds me that I want us to discuss >the illegal alien situation sometime since I have very mixed feelings >about it that I'm trying to sort out. Me too. I think in another couple of seasons Mulder and Scully could have solved this problem, but no, that fucking Duchovny just up and surrendered. _________________________________________________________________ Get 10MB of e-mail storage! Sign up for Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 22:07:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G37NHB011061 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:07:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 724C01E6023A; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:06:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BCE21E60239 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:06:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A09F7A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:59:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14108471 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:59:20 -0400 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9G2xJE03706 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:59:19 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:59:19 PDT Message-ID: <20031016025919.1852.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:59:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Fake Letters To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015215216.00b6d9f0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I do know that > having fought in Italy, > being shot, and spending considerable time in a > German prison of war, he > came home and his continual message to me was that > resorting to war and/or > violence to solve anything was subhumanly stupid. Say, for the sake of this "discussion", Pearl Harbor had never happened. The US rocked along as her natural allies against Fascism were eventually knocked off. Is there some point at which you feel the US should have intervened in World War II (before it became a full world-wide war)? At what point are our backs completely to the wall? If resorting to war is "sub humanly stupid", what are the realistic alternatives? Our enemies can be just as sub humanly stupid as we are. If diplomacy and alignment strategies are out the window, do we acquiesce to assimilation? The notion of some higher cause or holy crusade fits > well with people like > Eisenhower, Churchill, (and on a much lower plane, > Ambrose and on an > abyssal level, Dub ya) but I suspect that with the > grunts who populated the > foxholes and grubbed out the advances and took the > punishment, there wan't > that much damned romance involved---and there still > USN't. Anyone who has read anything at all about war knows there is no romance, no glory, no nobility connected with violence. It is every one of the disgusting adjectives you can come up with to describe it. If there is a necessity for it, however, there is a necessity. Those servicemen in World War II didn't feel romantic about it. They were asked, or ordered, to do a job and they did it. And to second guess them and their motives now seems not so much sub human as inhumane. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 22:09:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G39ZHB011101 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:09:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DE8C61E60239; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:08:20 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B00711E60232 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:08:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0A015@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 23:01:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14109487 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 23:01:21 -0400 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9G31LE04295 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 23:01:21 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:01:07 PDT Message-ID: <20031016030107.75393.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:01:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Att: Roy or Tony or Abht or Others? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015221040.00bc5ce8@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: > >It has always been my understanding that what we > >regard as cookies here, are called biscuits in > >Britain. What we call crackers can be known as > wafers > >in Britain; but there are other sorts of > "crackers" > >for which they have different names. > > And then there are "crisps." Which may also apply to potato chips in Britain. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 22:12:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G3CmHB011183 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:12:48 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4CD291E60232; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:11:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C1A51E60231 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:11:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0A082@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 23:04:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14110585 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 23:04:45 -0400 Received: from web20513.mail.yahoo.com (web20513.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9G34iE04875 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 23:04:44 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20513.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:04:44 PDT Message-ID: <20031016030444.33120.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:04:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Fake Letters To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F8E0109.FFA20E6C@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > It is not necessarily the topic of discussion. > > Sometimes it is the mind-set. > If > "mind-sets" are things like liberal vs conservative, > then I would say > that my mind-set is a liberal one. But I can't see > how > liberal-conservative has anything at all to do with > the question of who > joins the military and why. And I'm not sure that > the term "mind-set" > is a good one. It suggests some kind of lock, which > I do not believe is > on my mind. I certainly hope not. I said, "No. > I am a liberal in > most ways, but I am a conservative in some ways." > This is getting too > long, and it's almost time to go to bed. The point > is that I do not > know exactly what "mind-sets" are and that my mind > is not . I am a > liberal on most issues, a conservative on some > issues, and something in > between on some issues. And that reminds me that I > want us to discuss > the illegal alien situation sometime since I have > very mixed feelings > about it that I'm trying to sort out. Good. Remind us about illegal aliens tomorrow. I'm too tired, too, tonight. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 22:15:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G3FNHB011228 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:15:24 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7BB211E60239; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:14:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49E821E60232 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:14:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0A0AA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 23:07:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14110691 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 23:07:20 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G37KE05104 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 23:07:20 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9G37GBS023296 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:07:18 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <002001c39393$b478d840$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <001b01c392d4$e9e002c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8D2944.2568C469@maynor.net> <000301c3933e$28f97b80$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DC46F.E39D7B4C@maynor.net> <002801c3936c$a6682520$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DCE0A.CA7854B2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015194310.00bbc9b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015203252.00bc8888@pop.gwi.net> <005201c39382$c3634400$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DF8D8.9CDE5841@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Fake Letters Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:15:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > NB: I am not saying there were all these evaders. The only one I've > personally ever heard of was my parents' friend who moved to the desert > island. What I'm saying here is not any kind of argument that there > were tons of evaders. It's just that I don't think that mentioning > servicepeople you've know has much to do with the question. > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > True. I can't talk about men who were not in the service because I only knew a few and they were disqualified for health reasons, etc. My only point was that so much has happened between then and now, you can't imagine how differently people felt then. I can't explain it. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 22:26:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G3QEHB011427 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:26:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 97C7C1E6023A; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:24:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 692371E60239 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:24:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001A9A72@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 23:18:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14111649 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 23:18:10 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G3I9Q07098 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 23:18:10 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9G3I6BS016389 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:18:08 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <004b01c39395$37b19160$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3F8DD339.99BF47E4@maynor.net> <002101c39374$3c5504c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DDCBF.57D6DAFC@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: That Study on Misconceptions and Media Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:25:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU -- like the > news about that pregnant woman supposedly murdered by her husband in > California last year -- whatever happened about that? > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Trial coming up sometime, I think. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 22:30:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G3URHB011517 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:30:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3224E1E6023A; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:29:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0A8E1E60239 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:29:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0A151@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 23:22:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14112709 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 23:22:24 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f59.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.59]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G3MNQ10427 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 23:22:23 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:22:18 -0700 Received: from 64.24.186.198 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 03:22:17 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.24.186.198] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: baseball Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 03:22:17 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Oct 2003 03:22:18.0043 (UTC) FILETIME=[B3F9A0B0:01C39394] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I've been feeling sorry for us Phillies fans over the way the season ended - time to transfer my sympathy to Cubs fans. _________________________________________________________________ Use custom emotions -- try MSN Messenger 6.0! http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_emoticon From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 22:30:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G3UiHB011520 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:30:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 203FA1E6023A; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:29:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E69B51E60239 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:29:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0A152@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 23:22:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14112725 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 23:22:40 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G3MeQ10479 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 23:22:40 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id CD9A22B8ED; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:22:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD7A32B8E6 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:22:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:22:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: the name Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I thought some of yez might enjoy the author's name: What if an individual is perceiving a daydream and a series of external sensory inputs at precisely the same time, and has lost the capacity to distinguish one from the other? What happens to his perceptual world? Clearly he will be peopling his universe of awareness with elements that are altogether private, presences generated from within which for him will be a genuine part of the real world; these are what he sees, or hears, or is otherwise sensing. And should he then be unable to differentiate these from his everyday perceptions, then indeed he may move into a haunted, nightmarish world, and be a very troubled human being. --Joseph D. Noshpitz, "Reality Testing: A Neuropsychological Fantasy," in Comprehensive Psychology Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 22:31:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G3VcHB011533 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:31:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4B82B1E6023A; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:30:24 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DF521E60239 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:30:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0A175@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 23:23:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14112772 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 23:23:35 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G3NYQ10560 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 23:23:34 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 3DCC22B8E9; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:23:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 358A22B56F for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:23:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:23:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: baseball In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 16 Oct 2003, Rashmi Murthy wrote: > I've been feeling sorry for us Phillies fans over the way the > season ended - time to transfer my sympathy to Cubs fans. Ohmarty'sGOD - they lost? That fan better get out of town. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 22:35:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G3ZeHB011622 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:35:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7A3C51E6023C; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:34:25 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 489AD1E6023A for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:34:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001A9B9F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 23:27:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14115106 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 23:26:54 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f25.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G3QsQ11624 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 23:26:54 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:26:49 -0700 Received: from 64.24.186.198 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 03:26:48 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.24.186.198] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: what so funny about anger Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 03:26:48 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Oct 2003 03:26:49.0051 (UTC) FILETIME=[55822AB0:01C39395] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >This concludes the exclusive words-l preview. For the rest, you'll have to >wait until the C-J version appears, at which time I'll post the entire >transcript. Good. I like Lewis Black's (faux) maniacal outbursts. _________________________________________________________________ Need more e-mail storage? Get 10MB with Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 22:36:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G3ahHB011653 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:36:43 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1939F1E60239; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:35:29 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E00EF1E60232 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:35:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0A288@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 23:28:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14115219 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 23:28:40 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f21.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G3SdQ11978 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 23:28:39 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:28:34 -0700 Received: from 64.24.186.198 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 03:28:33 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.24.186.198] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: cookie/cracker Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 03:28:33 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Oct 2003 03:28:34.0202 (UTC) FILETIME=[942EEFA0:01C39395] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU IME, in British English, American cookies and crackers are lumped together under biscuit. Don't know nothin' about bisquit. _________________________________________________________________ Try MSN Messenger 6.0 with integrated webcam functionality! http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_webcam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 22:38:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G3cgHB011680 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:38:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D14351E60239; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:37:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A254D1E60232 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:37:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001A9BBC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 23:30:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14115274 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 23:30:38 -0400 Received: from web20509.mail.yahoo.com (web20509.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.144]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9G3UcQ12118 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 23:30:38 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20509.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:30:37 PDT Message-ID: <20031016033037.2758.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:30:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: the name To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > What if an individual is perceiving a daydream and a > series of external > sensory inputs at precisely the same time, and has > lost the capacity to > distinguish one from the other? What happens to his > perceptual world? > Clearly he will be peopling his universe of > awareness with elements that > are altogether private, presences generated from > within which for him will > be a genuine part of the real world; these are what > he sees, or hears, or > is otherwise sensing. And should he then be unable > to differentiate these > from his everyday perceptions, then indeed he may > move into a haunted, > nightmarish world, and be a very troubled human > being. > > > --Joseph D. Noshpitz, "Reality Testing: A > Neuropsychological Fantasy," in > Comprehensive Psychology You wouldn't be pulling our collective leg, would you? What a name! > > > Ann __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 23:00:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G40RHB012158 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 23:00:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 068001E6023A; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:59:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8FE91E60232 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:59:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A0A2FE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 23:52:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14116283 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 23:52:23 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f24.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.24]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G3qNQ14303 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 23:52:23 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:52:17 -0700 Received: from 64.24.186.198 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 03:52:16 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.24.186.198] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Laszlo Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 03:52:16 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Oct 2003 03:52:17.0778 (UTC) FILETIME=[E4B36520:01C39398] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just saw the pictures - Laszlo's a cutie! _________________________________________________________________ Enjoy MSN 8 patented spam control and more with MSN 8 Dial-up Internet Service. Try it FREE for one month! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 15 23:48:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G4mTHB013126 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 23:48:30 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CA4421E6023E; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 23:47:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C7701E6023D for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 23:47:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0A525@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 0:40:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14120460 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 00:40:25 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G4eKQ18979 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 00:40:20 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A9zw2-000327-UI for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 00:40:27 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015214013.02367e30@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:40:52 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Att: Roy or Tony or Abht or Others? In-Reply-To: <3F8DFDF3.46D6E847@maynor.net> References: <20031016012808.5252.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU FWIW, from Jeremy Smith's translating dictionary : (American) cookie == (British) sweet biscuit but chewier and softer (and larger). The most popular is the chocolate-chip cookie, but cookies also include the Oreo, fig newton, macaroon, and gingerbread man. (American) cracker == (British) cream cracker, includes the saltine, ritz, and wheat thin. (British) biscuit (sweet) == (American) small cookie, but with the texture of a sweet cracker, or the sandwich part of an Oreo cookie (the part around the filling), or a shortbread cookie. Of course, there are a zillion varieties, with all the usual chocolate, creme filling, etc. (British) biscuit (unsweetened or savoury) == (American) cracker Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 16 00:06:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G56uHB013544 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 00:06:57 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B73F11E6023F; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 00:05:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88E131E6023E for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 00:05:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0A56E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 0:58:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14121104 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 00:58:52 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f56.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G4wqQ20189 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 00:58:52 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:58:43 -0700 Received: from 64.24.186.198 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 04:58:42 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.24.186.198] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Fake Letters Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 04:58:42 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Oct 2003 04:58:43.0101 (UTC) FILETIME=[2C236CD0:01C393A2] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: >issues, and something in >between on some issues. And that reminds me that I >want us to discuss >the illegal alien situation sometime since I have >very mixed feelings >about it that I'm trying to sort out. More zzzzzzzzzzzz. Pointless having political discussions on words-l. The usual suspects saying the same things over and over again. _________________________________________________________________ Concerned that messages may bounce because your Hotmail account has exceeded its 2MB storage limit? Get Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 16 02:10:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G7AoHB016312 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 02:10:50 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BB7DB1E6015D; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 02:09:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 872BB1E60151 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 02:09:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0A7E1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 3:02:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14126443 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 03:02:45 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G72iw05518 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 03:02:44 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h9G72hDU016637 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:02:43 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h9G72gcp016635 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:02:42 +0200 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:02:42 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beer Bread Message-ID: <20031016070242.GA16589@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <4.2.2.20031015175508.00a376c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031015175508.00a376c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty: = I like it. Made with Heineken. = = Betty Heineken, the Coors of Europe. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 16 02:25:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9G7P3HB016583 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 02:25:03 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6C9361E6023F; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 02:23:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E33D1E6015D for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 02:23:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001AA0AB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 3:16:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14127482 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 03:16:57 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9G7Gvw06469 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 03:16:57 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h9G7GuDU016690 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:16:56 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h9G7GtfB016688 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:16:55 +0200 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:16:55 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beer Bread Message-ID: <20031016071655.GB16589@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <4.2.2.20031015175508.00a376c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031015175508.00a376c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031015181909.00a34b80@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031015181909.00a34b80@uclink.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = Mostly. I keep sitting down and watching baseball. Go , Cubs! = = Betty A Chicagoan dies and is sent to Hell. He had been a horrible man his entire life. The devil puts him to work breaking up rocks with a sledgehammer. To make it worse he cranks up the temperature and the humidity. After a couple of days, the devil checks in on his victim to see if he is suffering adequately. The devil is aghast as the Chicagoan is happily swinging his hammer and whistling a happy tune. The devil walks up to him and says, "I don't understand this. I've turned the heat way up, it's humid, you're crushing rocks; why are you so happy?" The Chicagoan, with a big smile, looks at the devil and replies, "This is great! It reminds me of August in Chicago. Hot, humid, a good place to work. It reminds me of home. This is fantastic!" The devil, extremely perplexed, walks away to ponder the Chicagoan's remarks. Then he decides to drop the temperature, send down a driving rain and torrential wind. Soon, hell is a wet, muddy mess. Walking in mud up to his knees with dust blowing into his eyes, the Chicagoan is happily slogging through the mud pushing a wheelbarrow full of crushed rocks. Again, the devil asks how he can be happy in such conditions. The Chicagoan replies, "This is great! Just like April in Chicago. It reminds me of working out in the yard with spring planting!" The devil is now completely baffled and determined to make the Chicagoan suffer. He makes the temperature plummet. Suddenly Hell is blanketed in snow and ice. Confident that this will surely make the Chicagoan unhappy, the devil checks in on the Chicagoan. He is again aghast at what he sees. The Chicagoan is dancing, singing, and twirling his sledgehammer as he cavorts in glee. "How can you be so happy? Don't you know its 40 below zero!?" screams the devil. Jumping up and down the Chicagoan throws a snowball at the devil and yells, "Hell's frozen over!! This means the Cubs won the world series!! " From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 16 05:25:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9GAPfHB019779 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 05:25:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A16BE1E60246; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 05:24:24 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 737AD1E60008 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 05:24:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0AA0E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 6:17:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14131423 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 06:17:35 -0400 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GAHYw20321 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 06:17:34 -0400 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <49L0V3Q2>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 12:19:02 +0200 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 49L0V3QG; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 12:18:56 +0200 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031016121623.01b6ae28@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 12:17:10 +0200 Subject: Re: more photos In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015173252.00b19af0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 17:34 15.10.2003 -0400 skrev clyde w. voigtlander: >About a week after hosting Acadiafest, Bonnie and I spent a few days on >Monhegan Island, about 12 miles off the coast. > >The photos are at: > >http://community.webshots.com/user/cwvoigt Apart from the fairyhouses and the vehicle this looks very much like home! Very good pictures! Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 16 05:46:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9GAkpHB020158 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 05:46:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C6C261E60245; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 05:45:33 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9261E1E6021F for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 05:45:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A0AA19@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 6:38:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14131700 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 06:38:44 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GAchw21647 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 06:38:43 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.164.72]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031016103838.UAUG1828.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 06:38:38 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8E7530.360CD74C@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 05:38:40 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: <001b01c392d4$e9e002c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8D2944.2568C469@maynor.net> <000301c3933e$28f97b80$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DC46F.E39D7B4C@maynor.net> <002801c3936c$a6682520$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DCE0A.CA7854B2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015195307.00b717e0@pop.gwi.net> <002101c39380$d8266e00$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DF464.FB153808@maynor.net> <001a01c3938a$1351be40$facadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > His book "The Greatest Generation" > (or something like that) addressed the > subject of the men who fought in WWII > and how they felt about it, etc. Ah so. Is it a book of interviews? He himself isn't old enough to report first-hand. He's old enough to have some memories of it, of course, but filtered through childhood eyes. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 16 05:47:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9GAlpHB020205 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 05:47:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 95FD81E60008; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 05:46:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 682961E60002 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 05:46:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001AA277@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 6:39:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14131730 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 06:39:45 -0400 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GAdiw21701 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 06:39:44 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9GAdM7Q028672 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 03:39:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F8E7532.30509@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 05:38:42 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: <001b01c392d4$e9e002c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8D2944.2568C469@maynor.net> <000301c3933e$28f97b80$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DC46F.E39D7B4C@maynor.net> <002801c3936c$a6682520$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DCE0A.CA7854B2@maynor.net> <001a01c39373$36a040e0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DDB19.A4B36B54@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015203103.00ba0da8@pop.gwi.net> <004801c39381$fa6fc8c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DEE18.4040705@swbell.net> <006f01c39384$d5be71e0$facadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: >> The young men in 1941 *sniff*. They were Saints I tellya, >>Saints! 'Cept fer that pesky Jack Kerouac and his group of >>bums. >> > > Scarcely. Never said that. > But they didn't run. > And the beatniks came later. > In huge numbers? > *sniff* The beatniks were WWII vets. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 16 05:49:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9GAnlHB020242 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 05:49:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 66A0E1E60008; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 05:48:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 394921E60002 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 05:48:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0AA14@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 6:41:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14131788 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 06:41:41 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GAfew21835 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 06:41:40 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.164.72]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031016104135.UBHB1828.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 06:41:35 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8E75E1.816D2822@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 05:41:37 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: <20031016030444.33120.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Good. Remind us about illegal aliens tomorrow. Illegal aliens. > I'm > too tired, too, tonight. And I was already offline and probably asleep. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 16 05:54:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9GAs2HB020268 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 05:54:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D043B1E60008; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 05:52:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E5A41E60002 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 05:52:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0AA43@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 6:45:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14131805 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 06:45:46 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GAjWw22205 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 06:45:32 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.164.72]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031016104527.UCBB1828.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 06:45:27 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8E76C9.A542CF3A@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 05:45:29 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the name References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin wrote: > > I thought some of yez might enjoy the author's name: > > What if an individual is perceiving a daydream and a series of external > sensory inputs at precisely the same time, and has lost the capacity to > distinguish one from the other? What happens to his perceptual world? > Clearly he will be peopling his universe of awareness with elements that > are altogether private, presences generated from within which for him will > be a genuine part of the real world; these are what he sees, or hears, or > is otherwise sensing. And should he then be unable to differentiate these > from his everyday perceptions, then indeed he may move into a haunted, > nightmarish world, and be a very troubled human being. > > --Joseph D. Noshpitz, "Reality Testing: A Neuropsychological Fantasy," in > Comprehensive Psychology I find what he said interesting also. I think we were discussing a while back the question of memories -- of how they can become distorted through the years. Though it's not Mr. Noshpitz's point, I started thinking in reading the above about how the experience of daydreaming while something in reality is at the same time might lead to distorted memories, even for somebody who has not lost the capacity to distinguish one from the other. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l*words-l**GTOAL*-COM@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 16 05:54:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9GAsVHB020276 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 05:54:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 261781E60002; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 05:53:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB8151E60008 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 05:53:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0AA4A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 6:46:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14131868 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 06:46:24 -0400 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GAkOw22274 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 06:46:24 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9GAkMaT020500 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 03:46:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F8E76C1.2010608@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 05:45:21 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: baseball References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Last night I actually got to watch part of the Sox v. Yankees game -- as you can imagine, they've only been airing the Cubs v. Marlins series locally. One of my kids is a Yankees fan, and we've been having a great time arguing with each other over the series. My dad mailed me down a Sox t-shirt to wear to school if they win game 7. Rashmi Murthy wrote: > I've been feeling sorry for us Phillies fans over the way the > season ended - time to transfer my sympathy to Cubs fans. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Use custom emotions -- try MSN Messenger 6.0! > http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_emoticon > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 16 05:57:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9GAv2HB020335 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 05:57:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F33A81E60245; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 05:55:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4F9C1E6021F for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 05:55:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001AA2A3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 6:48:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14131898 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 06:48:55 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GAmtw22437 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 06:48:55 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.164.72]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031016104850.UCQZ1828.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 06:48:50 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8E7793.D3DE8FEE@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 05:48:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: Roy or Tony or Abht or Others? References: <20031016012808.5252.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015214013.02367e30@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > > FWIW, from Jeremy Smith's translating dictionary > : > > (American) cookie == (British) sweet biscuit but chewier and softer (and > larger). The most popular is the chocolate-chip cookie, but cookies also > include the Oreo, fig newton, macaroon, and gingerbread man. > > (American) cracker == (British) cream cracker, includes the saltine, ritz, > and wheat thin. > > (British) biscuit (sweet) == (American) small cookie, but with the texture > of a sweet cracker, or the sandwich part of an Oreo cookie (the part around > the filling), or a shortbread cookie. Of course, there are a zillion > varieties, with all the usual chocolate, creme filling, etc. > > (British) biscuit (unsweetened or savoury) == (American) cracker Thanks, Pete! This is an interesting language-and-culture point, possibly suggesting that Americans have more interest in food or that sweet vs unsweet is more significant to Americans or whatever else. Sort of like studying kinship terms. I'll be teaching Lang & Cult next semester and will perhaps discuss The Biscuit Matter -- but I won't write the word on the board since I would probably write bisquit. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 16 05:58:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9GAwgHB020370 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 05:58:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B10CC1E60245; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 05:57:24 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 833A21E6021F for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 05:57:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001AA2A6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 6:50:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14131925 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 06:50:35 -0400 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GAoYw22547 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 06:50:34 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9GAoXaT021730 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 03:50:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F8E77BC.6050600@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 05:49:32 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: more photos References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031016121623.01b6ae28@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen Ore wrote: > 17:34 15.10.2003 -0400 skrev clyde w. voigtlander: > >>About a week after hosting Acadiafest, Bonnie and I spent a few days on >>Monhegan Island, about 12 miles off the coast. >> >>The photos are at: >> >>http://community.webshots.com/user/cwvoigt >> > > Apart from the fairyhouses and the vehicle this looks very much like home! > > Very good pictures! > You have to build your *own* fairy houses, Espen! This is a wonderful series of books and a video based in Maine. Ana loves it. She built a fairy house at our campsite in Acadia, as a matter of fact. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 16 06:05:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9GB5wHB020508 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 06:05:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 61BAB1E60249; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 06:04:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 302671E60245 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 06:04:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A0AA61@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 6:57:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14132253 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 06:57:52 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GAvpw23182 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 06:57:51 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.164.72]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031016105746.UEJE1828.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 06:57:46 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8E79AC.81AF989D@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 05:57:48 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: > > Natalie: > > >issues, and something in > >between on some issues. And that reminds me that I > >want us to discuss > >the illegal alien situation sometime since I have > >very mixed feelings > >about it that I'm trying to sort out. > > More zzzzzzzzzzzz. Pointless having political discussions on words-l. One woman's zzzzzz is another woman's @@@@@@@@ or whatever. Iow, some of us find political discussions much more interesting than food discussions or sports discussions or whatever other discussions you might find interesting. Pointless? Well, yes -- in the sense that I don't think anybody thinks that utterances on Words-L are going to change the world. But I don't think that discussions that don't change the world are completely pointless. I can't speak for others, but I know that they often make me think about things in slightly different ways, which I find even if it doesn't have a major impact on The World. I'm not sure that I would call the question of illegal aliens exactly "political," though it of course fits into that category to some degree since people in political offices are in positions to have to take action if there's action to be taken. Most things are political, I guess. More later. You can delete the thread. Right now I need to turn off the computer and get ready for another busy day. The best thing about today is that I have Survivor to look forward to as my reward if I complete all of today's chores. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 16 06:07:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9GB7UHB020546 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 06:07:30 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E3BD41E60245; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 06:06:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B52C91E6021F for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 06:06:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0AA5C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 6:59:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14132337 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 06:59:23 -0400 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GAxMw23294 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 06:59:23 -0400 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <49L0V3ZZ>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:00:49 +0200 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 49L0V3ZX; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:00:39 +0200 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031016125331.034aa048@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 12:58:52 +0200 Subject: For prb (and others) In-Reply-To: <000401c38f36$80d11d60$facadece@0018079268> References: <65.1a9904b5.2cb80fc6@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Yesterday we saw and heard a puppet theatre performance without puppets: the Japanese embassy in Norway had invited a group of bunraku recitators/singers and shamizen-players from Osaka to give a concert performance of parts of a play. This was act 8 scene 1 and act 8 scene 2 and lasted for one and a half hours, so a full play would probably be a lasting experience. But even this short glimpse was very impressive. Like they do in "real" performances the recitator/shamizen-player pairs were changed between scenes (and half scenes) and the different pairs had clearly different styles - this suited the narrative flow. Here is a link to info about bunraku: http://www.jinjapan.org/access/bunraku/history.html Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 16 07:37:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9GCbEHB022156 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 07:37:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 427A51E60250; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 07:35:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F1A1E6024F for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 07:35:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A0ABB7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 8:29:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14135305 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:29:06 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9GCT6w17396 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:29:06 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:29:06 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:24:26 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: For prb (and others) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h9GCbEHB022156 Thanks Espen. Very interesting. >>> Espen.Ore@NB.NO 10/16/03 06:58AM >>> Yesterday we saw and heard a puppet theatre performance without puppets: the Japanese embassy in Norway had invited a group of bunraku recitators/singers and shamizen-players from Osaka to give a concert performance of parts of a play. This was act 8 scene 1 and act 8 scene 2 and lasted for one and a half hours, so a full play would probably be a lasting experience. But even this short glimpse was very impressive. Like they do in "real" performances the recitator/shamizen-player pairs were changed between scenes (and half scenes) and the different pairs had clearly different styles - this suited the narrative flow. Here is a link to info about bunraku: http://www.jinjapan.org/access/bunraku/history.html Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 16 07:54:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9GCsqHB022508 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 07:54:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A126D1E60251; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 07:53:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 733591E6024E for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 07:53:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0AC19@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 8:46:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14136386 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:46:44 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GCkhw19746 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:46:43 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-62.gwi.net [216.195.157.62]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9GCkfQU070354 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:46:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031016084326.00b23880@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:46:47 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Fake Letters In-Reply-To: <3F8E0109.FFA20E6C@maynor.net> References: <20031016013435.10618.qmail@web20511.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >The point is that I do not >know exactly what "mind-sets" are and that my mind is not . I am a >liberal on most issues, a conservative on some issues, and something in >between on some issues. -- Natalie I think "mind-set" is a much broader term than just political, if it even is political. I would say about you, for example: Natalie has the kind of mind-set that makes it almost impossible for her to be in debt for anything other than a house mortgage. She even saves up money for her next car rather than pay interest charges on a car loan. Natalie is of the mind-set that one should live wherever one feels most comfortable, hang the expense or trouble of moving. Natalie's mind-set is such that travel seems like a worthwhile expense to her whereas a glamorous wardrobe would be way low on her priority list. Etc. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 16 07:58:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9GCwuHB022618 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 07:58:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EE9C91E60252; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 07:57:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0E921E60251 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 07:57:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0AC43@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 8:50:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14136778 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:50:48 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GColw20512 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:50:47 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-62.gwi.net [216.195.157.62]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9GCojYp043980 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:50:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031016084954.00b85b20@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:50:23 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Att: Roy or Tony or Abht or Others? In-Reply-To: <20031016030107.75393.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015221040.00bc5ce8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > And then there are "crisps." > >Which may also apply to potato chips in Britain. And then there are "chips" in Britain which are more like our french fries or fried potatoes. We are two nations divided by a common language. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 16 08:06:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9GD5xHB022829 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:05:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 297EF1E60254; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:04:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF9A81E60251 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:04:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0AC89@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 8:57:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14137136 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:57:51 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GCvpw21313 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:57:51 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-62.gwi.net [216.195.157.62]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9GCvnQU071656 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:57:50 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031016085511.00b23880@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:57:55 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: more photos In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031016121623.01b6ae28@localhost> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015173252.00b19af0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >http://community.webshots.com/user/cwvoigt > >Apart from the fairyhouses and the vehicle this looks very much like home! >Espen I want to see your "home". Maybe for my 60th birthday we will come and take that cruise up the coast of Norway to beyond the Arctic Circle. Of course, we couldn't do it in July when my actual birthday is because at that time of year there would be no chance of The Northern Lights. I recently read the biography of Kristian Birkeland. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 16 08:10:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9GDAaHB022972 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:10:36 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 51B441E60255; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:09:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2373E1E6000C for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:09:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0ACBA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 9:02:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14137657 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:02:28 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GD2Sw22287 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:02:28 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-62.gwi.net [216.195.157.62]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9GD2QQU072312 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:02:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031016085913.00b85b20@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:02:31 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: the name In-Reply-To: <3F8E76C9.A542CF3A@maynor.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >the experience of daydreaming >while something in reality is at the same time might lead to >distorted memories, even for somebody who has not lost the capacity to >distinguish one from the other. -- Natalie As can vivid dreams. There have been times in the past when I woke up totally annoyed at someone and then had to remind myself all day long that it was only in a dream that the individual had done something to piss me off. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 16 08:15:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9GDFiHB023093 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:15:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C91CE1E60256; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:14:25 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96FF01E60255 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:14:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0ACD3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 9:07:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14138157 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:07:36 -0400 Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.74]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GD7aw23028 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:07:36 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HMU00J0DPPS3G@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:05:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.71] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:01:55 -0400 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:01:55 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Laszlo To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <1326814dab.14dab13268@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Rashmi Murthy > I just saw the pictures - Laszlo's a cutie! He says thank you, and he's promising not to have any accidents in the house today. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 16 08:17:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9GDHJHB023104 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:17:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B59701E6000C; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:16:00 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 879061E60255 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:16:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0AD01@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 9:09:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14138297 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:09:11 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GD9Bw23260 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:09:11 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-62.gwi.net [216.195.157.62]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9GD98QU073278 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:09:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031016090738.00b9abf8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:09:15 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Fake Letters In-Reply-To: <3F8E79AC.81AF989D@maynor.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >One woman's zzzzzz is another woman's @@@@@@@@ or whatever. Iow, some >of us find political discussions much more interesting than food >discussions or sports discussions or whatever other discussions you >might find interesting. Pointless? Well, yes -- in the sense that I >don't think anybody thinks that utterances on Words-L are going to >change the world. But I don't think that discussions that don't change >the world are completely pointless. I can't speak for others, but I >know that they often make me think about things in slightly different >ways, which I find even if it doesn't have a major impact >on The World. -- Natalie I've learned things and changed my mind during political discussions on words-l. I even listen and consider the voice and reason of Doris Markland. Once she told us yesterday that her husband served with men from all around the country, I changed my mind that hers was merely a Nebraska view. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 16 08:32:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9GDWGHB023422 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:32:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DF1BA1E60257; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:30:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADFAE1E60256 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:30:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0ADB1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 9:24:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14139899 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:24:08 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GDO8w26482 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:24:08 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9GDO17H026234 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:24:05 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001001c393e9$da757660$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <001b01c392d4$e9e002c0$facadece@0018079268> <3F8D2944.2568C469@maynor.net> <000301c3933e$28f97b80$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DC46F.E39D7B4C@maynor.net> <002801c3936c$a6682520$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DCE0A.CA7854B2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031015195307.00b717e0@pop.gwi.net> <002101c39380$d8266e00$facadece@0018079268> <3F8DF464.FB153808@maynor.net> <001a01c3938a$1351be40$facadece@0018079268> <3F8E7530.360CD74C@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Fake Letters Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:31:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Doris Markland wrote: > > > His book "The Greatest Generation" > > (or something like that) addressed the > > subject of the men who fought in WWII > > and how they felt about it, etc. > > Ah so. Is it a book of interviews? He himself isn't old enough to > report first-hand. He's old enough to have some memories of it, of > course, but filtered through childhood eyes. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Based on interviews, yes. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 16 09:23:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9GEN6HB024503 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:23:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 270BC1E60259; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:21:48 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E758B1E60255 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:21:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A0AF9B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:14:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14144677 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:14:58 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GEEww04008 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:14:58 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9GEEs7H017962 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:14:55 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000e01c393ef$c7611100$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031016090738.00b9abf8@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: Re: Fake Letters Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:14:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I've learned things and changed my mind during political discussions on > words-l. I even listen and consider the voice and reason of Doris > Markland. Once she told us yesterday that her husband served with men from > all around the country, I changed my mind that hers was merely a Nebraska view. > > > bonnie Bless your heart. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 16 09:27:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9GERuHB024619 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:27:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C165C1E6025C; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:26:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91A341E6025B for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:26:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0AFFA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:19:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14145319 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:19:48 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GEJlw05265 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:19:47 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-62.gwi.net [216.195.157.62]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9GD6oQU072928 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:06:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031016090311.00b8c950@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:06:56 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: more photos In-Reply-To: <3F8E77BC.6050600@swbell.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031016121623.01b6ae28@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > You have to build your *own* fairy houses, Espen! This is a >wonderful series of books and a video based in Maine. Ana >loves it. She built a fairy house at our campsite in >Acadia, as a matter of fact. --Rita Rouvalis Chapman Wonderful. I gave the video and the book to two little boys in Vermont who have now built fairy houses in that lush, green state. I watched the video and enjoyed it a lot. Most of it was filmed on Monhegan. But the scene where the kids are swimming was definitely not there. There are no paved roads on Monhegan, much less a bridge of that magnitude. The book and video can be ordered here: http://www.fairyhouses.com/fairy_houses_series.htm bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 16 09:28:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9GESkHB024639 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:28:46 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EECF41E6025B; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:27:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C07451E6025C for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:27:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0AFE1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:20:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14145392 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:20:38 -0400 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GEKcw05427 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:20:38 -0400 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9GEKUsV8921218 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:20:31 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:20:30 -0500 (CDT) From: poor old johnny ray X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: [PMX:#] baseball In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.0.4.77969 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 16 Oct 2003, Rashmi Murthy wrote: > I've been feeling sorry for us Phillies fans over the way the > season ended - time to transfer my sympathy to Cubs fans. Ah, jeez. Even I, a maniacal White Sox fan into his fifth decade of Cub contempt, can't work up any glee over that. As The Baseball Crank said, "There are tough losses, there are devastating losses, and then there's what happened to the Cubs on Tuesday". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 16 09:45:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9GEjEHB024970 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:45:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 39BCB1E6025A; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:43:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ABF71E6013C for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:43:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0B0B5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:37:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14147080 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:37:05 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GEb5w09483 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:37:05 -0400 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9GEb3eO010858 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 07:37:03 -0700 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9GEb2a2010835; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 07:37:02 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031016073424.00a570a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 07:34:41 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Beer Bread In-Reply-To: <20031016070242.GA16589@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <4.2.2.20031015175508.00a376c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031015175508.00a376c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:02 AM 10/16/2003 +0200, steph wrote: >Betty: >= I like it. Made with Heineken. >= >= Betty > >Heineken, the Coors of Europe. I think Roy calls it worse than that. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 16 09:48:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9GEmSHB025027 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:48:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2BF2D1E6025A; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:47:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1009C1E6013C for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:47:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0B0BC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:40:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14147265 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:40:18 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f20.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GEeHw10002 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:40:18 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 07:40:12 -0700 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:40:11 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Fake Letters Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:40:11 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Oct 2003 14:40:12.0176 (UTC) FILETIME=[67A5C900:01C393F3] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Doris Markland >I understand. I think that may be what Tom Brokaw >was trying to address. Corny as it may sound to >people today, I think he tried to capture what people >were feeling before, during and after WWII. >I think he felt someone needed to address it from >that angle. It complements, not corrects, other >versions. Second attempt at a repy (in case the first comes through cut in half) One can speculate cynically about Tom Brokaw was trying to do with his book, but leaving that aside, since you've read it and I won't (I avoid celebrity writers), can you tell us how many of Brokaw's informants were draftees? It remains a puzzlement to me that half of the U.S. soldiers during wwii were conscripts, but apparently none of us know any of them. This gets to the issue of how memories can be adjusted and distorted in order to fit into a politically correct and emotionally acceptable mold. _________________________________________________________________ Get 10MB of e-mail storage! Sign up for Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 16 09:54:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9GEsTHB025102 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:54:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 63F571E6013C; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:53:10 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 322B01E60013 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:53:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001AA88F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:46:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14147760 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:46:13 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GEkDw11177 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:46:13 -0400 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9GEkBW1023651 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 07:46:11 -0700 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9GEkAWq023635 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 07:46:11 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031016073458.00a4fba0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 07:43:49 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Lady Green In-Reply-To: <20031016071655.GB16589@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <4.2.2.20031015181909.00a34b80@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031015175508.00a376c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031015175508.00a376c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031015181909.00a34b80@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I forgot to report about Janet's open house. It was great to see her again. She looks terrific although her shoulder is bothering her again. Amy has gained weight. Ben's room was off limits. I love her loft. I really like all that open space. It was one of the things I liked about Alan's and Terry's home in Rhode Island. I didn't spill any wine punch on my white pants and we met several of Janet's friends. Discussions involved retiring in the Bahamas, children, photography, viagra, Richmond Shipyards, my introduction of Berkeley in the 60's, and gay youth. There were wonderful snacks. Loved that chicken. Thanks for the invitation, Janet. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 16 09:55:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9GEtOHB025124 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:55:24 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8DABA1E6013C; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:54:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F9A11E60013 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:54:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001AA89B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:47:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14147815 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:47:16 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f51.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.51]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GElFw11360 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:47:15 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 07:47:10 -0700 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:47:09 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Fake Letters Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:47:09 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Oct 2003 14:47:10.0250 (UTC) FILETIME=[60D6D0A0:01C393F4] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Lynne Weber >Anyone who has read anything at all about war knows >there is no romance, no glory, no nobility connected >with violence. It is every one of the disgusting >adjectives you can come up with to describe it. If >there is a necessity for it, however, there is a >necessity. Those servicemen in World War II didn't >feel romantic about it. They were asked, or ordered, >to do a job and they did it. And to second guess them >and their motives now seems not so much sub human as inhumane. Indeed. Actually, it's likely that many of the servicemen during world war ii did indeed feel romantic about it, in the way that young men and old politicians often romanticize war. But suppose that you were having the same conversation about German soldiers (or for that matter, soldiers in any army you care to name). Tell me, what do you think were the motives of, say, the average German footsoldier during world war ii? How do those motives contrast with the motives of the average U.S. footsoldier? Do you think the motives of the average U.S. footsoldier were morally, spiritually, or by some other measure, superior to those of the German footsoldier? Do you think it's inhumage to second guess the motives of the German footsoldier? _________________________________________________________________ Fast, faster, fastest: Upgrade to Cable or DSL today! https://broadband.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 16 10:00:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9GF0QHB025248 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:00:26 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5E0511E6025B; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:59:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F3E11E6025A for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:59:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001AA8E7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:52:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14148243 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:52:17 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f88.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.88]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GEqHw12517 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:52:17 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 07:52:12 -0700 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:52:12 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Fake Letters Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:52:12 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Oct 2003 14:52:12.0122 (UTC) FILETIME=[14C4D3A0:01C393F5] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: "clyde w. voigtlander" >the Ploesti oilfields and did not come back. My stepfather was drafted >into the infantry; the next two boys in his family similarly were >drafted---one infantry, the other navy. The two in the infantry were Ah. At last a draftee. And based on cwv's report, a fairly candid draftee when it came to reflecting on his experiences. _________________________________________________________________ Compare Cable, DSL or Satellite plans: As low as $29.95. https://broadband.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 16 10:01:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9GF1uHB025270 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:01:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ADBD71E6025A; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:00:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FF2C1E6013C for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:00:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001AA8FF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:53:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14148339 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:53:44 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GEriw12740 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:53:44 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 7447B2B8EF; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 07:53:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 688AE2B563 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 07:53:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 07:53:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 16 Oct 2003, Marty Rosen wrote: > writers), can you tell us how many of Brokaw's informants were draftees? It > remains a puzzlement to me that half of the U.S. soldiers during wwii were > conscripts, but apparently none of us know any of them. This gets to the My father was a conscript though I have the feeling he would have been insulted with this name. "Draftee" is somehow nicer. He was in charge of a target ship. (They gave him officer training because he was a college grad, they told me.) I guess that means they dragged around a target for practice, but I thought it meant they were all shooting at him. Whenever I heard him talk about it, I got the feeling that there were a lot of draftees, all being a good sport about it but wishing they were home. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 16 10:09:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9GF9IHB025396 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:09:18 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 356E11E6025B; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:07:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05B951E6025C for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:07:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001AA9B8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:01:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14149269 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:01:09 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GF19w14740 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:01:09 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.74.122]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HMUUS603.JEO for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 07:55:18 -0700 Message-ID: <3F8EB2F4.3DD61773@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:02:13 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: <20031016025919.1852.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Say, for the sake of this "discussion", Pearl Harbor > had never happened. The US rocked along as her > natural allies against Fascism were eventually knocked > off. Is there some point at which you feel the US > should have intervened in World War II (before it > became a full world-wide war)? We were already involved in 1940 and 1941; Lend-lease, embargoes, the Ruben James, designs started on bombers with trans-Atlantic ranges, etc. We would have been at war with at least Germany by 1942 in any event. (And the U-boat Paukenschlag would have had the same result.) I have a book at home with [I think] the title "The Coming War", printed in early 1940. Except for Japan attacking the Panama Canal instead of Pearl Harbor - which they did get around to, but not until 1945 - the author damn near wrote a history of WWII before it happened. Scarey, but it shows that some people saw the whole thing coming.) (Damn near as frightening as the thought that "The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress" may have been translated into Chinese, but that's twenty years away. I hope.) > At what point are our > backs completely to the wall? If resorting to war is > "sub humanly stupid", what are the realistic > alternatives? Give the little lady a see-gar. > Our enemies can be just as sub humanly > stupid as we are. And we always seem to be fighting people who view Red Crosses as aiming points. > If diplomacy and alignment > strategies are out the window, do we acquiesce to > assimilation? Again, a good point. "When" is sometimes as important as "why". And assimilation might be one of the more merciful alternatives. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 16 11:32:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9GGWGHB026905 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:32:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0A39F1E6025A; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:30:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC8F51E60211 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:30:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A0B41C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 12:24:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14156352 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 12:24:07 -0400 Received: from maple.vaxer.net (root@maple.vaxer.net [66.199.186.132]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GGO6529872 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 12:24:06 -0400 Received: from maple.vaxer.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maple.vaxer.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9GGMlTX005302 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:24:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (sylvar@localhost) by maple.vaxer.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id h9GGMlYe020936 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:22:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: maple.vaxer.net: sylvar owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:22:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Ben Ostrowsky To: The usual gang of meebers Subject: Biscuits Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU According to my English officemate: UK 'biscuit' = US 'cookie' (a sweet baked food, crisp or soft, with or without fillings or toppings) UK 'water biscuit' (an old term) = US 'cracker' (a plain, matzoh-like, nearly tasteless crisp baked platform for savory toppings) UK 'cracker' = US 'cracker' (Ritz brand crackers or other flavorful crisp baked food that could be enjoyed by itself or with savory toppings) Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 16 13:02:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9GI28HB028852 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:02:08 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 97D711E600F6; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:00:48 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 657A11E60087 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:00:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0B71B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:53:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14164010 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:53:58 -0400 Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com (imo-r06.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.102]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GHrw513254 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:53:58 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.54.1aa8b36f (3996) for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:53:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <54.1aa8b36f.2cc03527@aol.com> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:53:43 EDT Subject: Re: Daisy's Gone To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/15/2003 3:13:34 PM, dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes: >??? Theo, how can you have "lived home" but "never lived with any >family"? > What I meant was that no family lived in my home after I was married. Sometimes my parents have visited, but that didn't cause any problems because it was just for a short time. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 16 13:03:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9GI3lHB028883 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:03:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6F8C11E600F6; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:02:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FAA61E60087 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:02:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001AB010@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:55:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14164139 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:55:37 -0400 Received: from imo-m03.mx.aol.com (imo-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.6]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GHtb513538 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:55:37 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1e2.11b80ab1 (3996) for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:55:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1e2.11b80ab1.2cc03589@aol.com> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:55:21 EDT Subject: Re: condo democracy To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/15/2003 3:25:58 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >I am happy that democracy doesn't >extend to my thermostat. > Same here. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 16 13:21:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9GILnHB029221 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:21:49 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E943A1E6025D; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:20:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2B471E6025A for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:20:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0B7E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:13:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14164839 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:13:39 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GI3J514952 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:03:19 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9GI30I7027227 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:03:00 -0400 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:03:18 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Daisy's Gone In-Reply-To: <54.1aa8b36f.2cc03527@aol.com> Message-ID: References: <54.1aa8b36f.2cc03527@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 16 Oct 2003, Theo Groothof wrote: >>??? Theo, how can you have "lived home" but "never lived with any >>family"? >> >What I meant was that no family lived in my home after I was married. >Sometimes my parents have visited, but that didn't cause any problems because it was >just for a short time. Thanks, Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 16 13:22:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9GIMgHB029235 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:22:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D8D511E6025E; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:21:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A96FA1E6025D for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:21:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0B7F6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:14:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14165032 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:14:32 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GI4W515505 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:04:32 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9GI4DI7027509 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:04:13 -0400 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:04:32 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: condo Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It's clear that the thermostat is the key - I am the only real democrat here. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 16 13:43:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9GIh2HB029659 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:43:03 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7DFBE1E6025F; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:41:42 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CA061E60081 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:41:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001AB1C4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:34:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14167867 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:34:52 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f36.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.36]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GIYq522117 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:34:52 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:34:46 -0700 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:34:46 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: condo Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:34:46 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Oct 2003 18:34:46.0657 (UTC) FILETIME=[2CB12710:01C39414] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: "Bethany K. Dumas" >It's clear that the thermostat is the key - I am the only real democrat >here. That's likely true. The dangers of lower-case d democracy are well enough documented that even the signers of the constitution wouldn't have described themselves thus. They were lower-case republicans. Here's a nice little essay on the topic from a source the authority of which I haven't confirmed: http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/republicanism/ _________________________________________________________________ See when your friends are online with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 16 13:44:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9GIiiHB029696 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:44:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6F0A61E60081; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:43:24 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EFAF1E6005C for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:43:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0B914@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:36:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14168268 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:36:34 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GIaY522888 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:36:34 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0B8F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:36:34 -0400 Message-Id: <200310161836.h9GIaY522888@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:36:34 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Fake Letters To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:27:25 -0500, Doris Markland wrote: >> brain.) I now know the subthread you were responding to: the one >about >> WWII. > >While dinner was cooking, I picked Gene's >brains a bit. And mine. > >The young men in 1941, you must remember, >had never experienced a war in their lifetime >or the threat of a war. They had not climbed >under their desks to protect themselves from >an A-bomb. They had never heard countries >arguing, as we do today. They had never heard of protesters. They were >brought up to mind and to do right. They had always been perfectly safe >and assumed they always would be safe. > >They were athletes, many of them. They thought they could lick anyone. >They loved their families and their country. Like the young people >today who don't think they could be killed in a car accident, the young >people of 1941 didn't think they could be killed in a war. >It was, in fact, the furthest thing from their minds. (This cannot be >said today) > >They knew that people had been tyrranized >and killed. They knew that we had been >attacked. Motives were strong. > >They did, yes, line up to volunteer. They wanted to go. They wanted to >kick ass, altho >that wasn't a term then. > >Gene volunteered so he could get AF or navy but they were full and he >got Army. And he >didn't care. He still wanted to go. He wanted >to go from the beginning and so did everyone >he knew. > >A lot of them didn't come back. > >But don't say they didn't want to go or that >in any numbers they tried to evade. I just >would doubt that. > > > - D. M. Gene may well have wanted to go, and may have had many buddies who felt the same. His statements - and your memories - are no more applicable to the entirety of that cohort than any other. My father was drafted, and so were most of the people he knew. He was also an athlete, but he was a hunter as well, and knew that guns are different from fists. Economics may well have played a part in the decision to "sign up today", then as now; and as someone earlier stated, the numbers of draftees was so high that many might have fatalistically enlisted to try to get into a specific branch, figuring there was no way out for them. People were indeed taught to obey, and not encouraged to think independently; but given the number of people who think patently wrong and stupid things today as per the study we have been discussing, this is not a relevant point. As for not knowing countries argue nor seeing protests, these young men were children and teens during the labor protests of the '30s. They did indeed know what protest was. They also knew about disagreement between countries, and lack of support for the League of Nations - at least if they attended high school. I still have my mother's 1941 "Scholastic Magazine" collection from Social Studies (and my own as well - in spite of the Op Art in the '60's version, they had a lot in common). There was at least as much report of political controversy in her day. One factor that probably was important in the success of recruiting efforts both now and in the '40s was that there was a previous war with the same combatants, and the propaganda machines had not really wound down between times - villifying Germans was an old habit, and young men in the '40s had grown up listening to tales of atrocities from the '10s which, though debunked in fact, were still part of the urban legends their elders relived in conversation. See Gulf War I reminiscences, inaccuracy of. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 16 13:50:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9GIoNHB029792 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:50:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9D0D71E6025F; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:49:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 508861E6025E for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:49:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0B948@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:42:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14168804 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:42:12 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GIgC524340 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:42:12 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001AB21A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:42:12 -0400 Message-Id: <200310161842.h9GIgC524340@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:42:12 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Beer Bread To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:53:52 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >PS: Re Mickey Mantle. I might also have said here before that my >desire at about age twelve was to marry a combination professional >baseball player and Methodist preacher. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Sorry, my Dad was already taken. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 16 14:00:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9GJ03HB030020 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:00:03 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 891661E60088; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:58:42 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F00B1E60081 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:58:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001AB24E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:51:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14169621 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:51:52 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GIpq526387 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:51:52 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001AB271@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:51:52 -0400 Message-Id: <200310161851.h9GIpq526387@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:51:52 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Fake Letters To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:59:19 -0700, Lynne Weber wrote: Those servicemen in World War II didn't >feel romantic about it. They were asked, or ordered, >to do a job and they did it. And to second guess them >and their motives now seems not so much sub human as inhumane. > Nonsense. To "second guess" - if by that you mean what has been happening here, that is "to consider and discuss, to try to understand", rather than its ordinary meaning (which has not been happening here) of "to say whether, in hindsight, a decision was wrong" - is a responsible application of human intelligence to a human problem. In fact, some people did try not to serve, for various reasons; some people did try to avoid being drafted; and some people enlisted enthusiastically. There's nothing reprehensible in trying to understand the motivations of young people faced with a difficult decision. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 16 14:01:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9GJ1RHB030043 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:01:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A083F1E60260; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:00:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6335C1E6025E for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:00:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0B98D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:53:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14169792 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:53:16 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GIrG526781 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:53:16 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001AB27B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:53:16 -0400 Message-Id: <200310161853.h9GIrG526781@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:53:16 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: baseball To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:23:34 -0700, Ann Borkin wrote: >On Thu, 16 Oct 2003, Rashmi Murthy wrote: > >> I've been feeling sorry for us Phillies fans over the way the >> season ended - time to transfer my sympathy to Cubs fans. > >Ohmarty'sGOD - they lost? > >That fan better get out of town. > >Ann He did. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 16 18:58:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9GNwWjT032709 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:58:36 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3C71A1E602D7; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:02:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D8631E602C3 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:02:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0C274@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:55:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14190408 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:55:24 -0400 Received: from vbn.inter-touch.net ([194.205.224.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GMtN500833 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:55:23 -0400 Received: from test2kserver (unknown [10.5.0.53]) by vbn.inter-touch.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 474C7340804 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:55:22 +0000 (/etc/localtime) From: "Tony Harminc" To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:51:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: (Fwd) London Message-ID: <3F8EE8C8.6692.106CA14@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3F8C872D.E04B07B0@maynor.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 14 Oct 2003 at 18:30, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > My dad never did become a Canadian. But he was a great anglophile, > > and pretty much saw Canada as an outpost of empire, I think, and > > therefore had no need to be a citizen. He loved the English, but > > they didn't love him. :-( > > They kicked him out? No - he just couldn't find a long term job. He was naturalized during the war years and served in the Royal Engineers, but couldn't find anything in architecture after the war. > Does being Candian by birth and British by descent or vice versa mean > dual citizenship? Yes. But one can argue that there are two (maybe more) kinds of British citizenship: the kind I have gives my children British citizenship, but the kind my sisters have (the same kind my children have) doesn't. Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 00:49:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9H5nL6q006116 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 00:49:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4A0AF1E602EC; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:18:39 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14F9E1E602E5 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:18:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001ABB39@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:11:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14191190 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:11:48 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GNAh502047 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:10:43 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.157.194]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031016231038.FHQH21489.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:10:38 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8F2570.5D8C7899@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:10:40 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: (Fwd) London References: <3F8EE8C8.6692.106CA14@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tony Harminc wrote: > No - he just couldn't find a long term job. He was naturalized > during the war years and served in the Royal Engineers, but > couldn't find anything in architecture after the war. Naturalized? What was he before he was British? > > Does being Candian by birth and British by descent or vice versa mean > > dual citizenship? > > Yes. But one can argue that there are two (maybe more) kinds of > British citizenship: the kind I have gives my children British > citizenship, but the kind my sisters have (the same kind my > children have) doesn't. That makes a kind of sense. You were born in the UK to UK parents and had to a Canadian citizen. Iow, your UKness was stronger than that of your sisters, who were automatically Canadian citizens because they were born there, though British also because of their parents. It's going to be interesting to see what my nine-year-old friend Akane decides upon reaching twenty-one (or I guess that's the age in Japan also). As a child she's both U.S. and Japanese, but Japan does not allow dual citizenship for adults, so, unless they change that, she'll have to make a decision. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 00:49:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9H5nL6q006108 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 00:49:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B2CB91E60388; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:29:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F9331E60387 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:29:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0C671@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:23:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14201096 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:23:00 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9H2N0524606 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:23:00 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.157.194]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031017022255.HROC14434.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:22:55 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8F5281.A16FAB6C@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:22:57 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: my democratic/Democratic thermostat References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > I decided to test the heat function tonight, as it is > fairly cool. It works great. I knew you'd want to know that I have full > use of my thermostat. It's good that you were with the majority vote! Meanwhile, though, I've been pondering the heating/cooling situation for the party I'm having Sunday afternoon. I have had no heating or cooling at all on for a good while now since it's that kind of weather -- no need for heat or a/c. And it's supposed to be that kind of weather Sunday also -- highs in the mid 70s or so -- the kind of day I would have open windows except for the party factor. The party makes it more complicated since large groups make houses hotter. So I guess I should turn on a/c, but until the house gets full of hot bodies and thus gets the temperature up, closed windows would make it airless, which I dislike. Opening and closing my gazillions of windows with their storm windows is a big undertaking, so I don't want to have to be doing that at party time. Maybe the thing to do is have a few open windows until the last minute before people arrive, then close them and turn on a/c just before people get here. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 01:21:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9H6Lq6q006459 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 01:21:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1C18D1E60424; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 00:13:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFC2D1E60414 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 00:13:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A0CD3B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 1:07:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14213487 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 01:07:01 -0400 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.99]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9H571509573 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 01:07:01 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.84.1ae1572e (4340) for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 01:06:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <84.1ae1572e.2cc0d2ec@aol.com> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 01:06:52 EDT Subject: Re: cute To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/16/2003 6:08:51 PM, meeberphobia@HOTMAIL.COM writes: >Of course, it won't work >unless I pass the prayer rug onto someone else..... > I received something like that today. only it was for a wish to come true....but I had to pass it on to 10 other people! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 01:21:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9H6Lr6q006477 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 01:21:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 387221E6033E; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:51:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04EA11E60345 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:51:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0C41E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:44:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14194986 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:44:14 -0400 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9H0iD510595 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:44:13 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9H0iCaT007014 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:44:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F8F3B1F.8080101@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:43:11 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: <200310161836.h9GIaY522888@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > People were indeed taught to obey, and not encouraged to think > independently; but given the number of people who think patently wrong and > stupid things today as per the study we have been discussing, this is not a > relevant point. I think there is always a certain number of sheep -- we are herd animals (or tribal animals -- same thing), and some people will go along with what everybody else is doing. In the 40's, everybody else was joining or allowing themselves to be drafted. In the 60's, people were trying to evade the draft. I also think that there are always a large number of people who want to do what is right -- and will go along with the prevailing opinion of what that is. In the 40's, fighting was right. In the 60's, protesting for peace was right. Values had changed. That doesn't mean the men were any different -- they were mostly all trying to do what was right -- whatever that is. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 01:22:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9H6Ma6q006617 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 01:22:36 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 73D7F1E603A9; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:13:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 250D51E603A6 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:13:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0C887@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 23:06:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14205625 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 23:05:49 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9H35m530304 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 23:05:48 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9H35b7H017324 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:05:44 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001801c3945b$71d19040$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031016090738.00b9abf8@pop.gwi.net> <3F8F1E15.7C880D43@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Fake Letters Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:04:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > I even listen and consider the voice and reason of Doris > > Markland. > > Even? Hers is one of the voices I am most likely to listen to and > consider. I think I've said that before. I won't get into naming names > of those Wordslers I tend just to bleep out, but I will say that I can't > imagine Doris's being among them. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Bless your heart. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 03:02:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9H82h6q008028 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 03:02:46 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C86501E60330; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:40:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A79D1E60324 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:40:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001ABC59@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:33:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14194558 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:33:44 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9H0Xi509820 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:33:44 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2003101700333901200o0g69e> (Authid: adamh1); Fri, 17 Oct 2003 00:33:39 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: more photos Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:33:38 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031015173252.00b19af0@pop.gwi.net> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > The photos are at: > > http://community.webshots.com/user/cwvoigt Very nice! Thanks for sharing. --Adam adamh1@comcast.net From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 03:02:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9H82h6q008030 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 03:02:46 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C57641E603A6; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:20:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7678F1E603AF for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:20:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0C949@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 23:13:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14207138 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 23:13:43 -0400 Received: from web20511.mail.yahoo.com (web20511.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.150]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9H3Dh531299 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 23:13:43 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20511.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:13:42 PDT Message-ID: <20031017031342.28277.qmail@web20511.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:13:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Fake Letters To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <003901c3945c$0e359300$facadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > That is very much what I was trying to say, even > if in a slightly different way. I sometimes want someone to kick me when the words won't come out right. Bet I'd have plenty of takers, too. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 05:46:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9HAkm6q009982 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 05:46:48 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E36481E600D3; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 05:45:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B673A1E600D2 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 05:45:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0D07F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 6:38:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14221624 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 06:38:31 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9HAcV503434 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 06:38:31 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.128.134]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031017103826.MZBW1828.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 06:38:26 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8FC6A4.B699C8DA@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 05:38:28 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie - Illegal Aliens? References: <20031017024143.94458.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > I believe "sleeping on it" may be the best idea of the > day. 'Night. I don't remember whether I dreamed any answers on the subject. I think I didn't. But at least it's now morning, always a better time of day for thinking. Problem is that I'm running late this morning and that it's thundering outside. I didn't realize it was supposed to rain today. More later. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 05:49:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9HAnT6q010152 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 05:49:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 89BC71E60316; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:16:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6FC91E60314 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:16:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A0C3B1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:09:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14193701 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:09:59 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f38.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9H09w507795 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:09:58 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:09:53 -0700 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 00:09:53 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Fake Letters Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:09:53 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Oct 2003 00:09:53.0362 (UTC) FILETIME=[FD38DB20:01C39442] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Carolyn Ostrander >Nonsense. To "second guess" - if by that you mean what has been happening > here, that is "to consider and discuss, to try to understand", rather >than >its ordinary meaning (which has not been happening here) of "to say >whether, >in hindsight, a decision was wrong" - is a responsible application of >human intelligence to a human problem. Jeez. Well...... Ditto. _________________________________________________________________ Want to check if your PC is virus-infected? Get a FREE computer virus scan online from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 05:49:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9HAnT6q010153 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 05:49:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8088D1E6032B; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:33:45 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 520311E6032A for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:33:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001ABC65@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:26:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14193955 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:26:55 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9H0Gt508440 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:16:55 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9H0GaI7001305 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:16:36 -0400 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:16:54 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: my democratic/Democratic thermostat Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I decided to test the heat function tonight, as it is fairly cool. It works great. I knew you'd want to know that I have full use of my thermostat. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 06:59:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9HBxO6q010886 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 06:59:24 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7F95D1E600D2; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 06:57:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51BD01E600CC for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 06:57:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A0D130@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 7:51:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14222857 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 07:51:07 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9HBf4527137 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 07:41:04 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9HBeZI7030734 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 07:40:44 -0400 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 07:40:54 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: my democratic/Democratic thermostat In-Reply-To: <3F8F5281.A16FAB6C@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3F8F5281.A16FAB6C@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 16 Oct 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> I decided to test the heat function tonight, as it is >> fairly cool. It works great. I knew you'd want to know that I have full >> use of my thermostat. > >It's good that you were with the majority vote! Meanwhile, though, I've For the record - there was no formal vote (and I did not leave a note in the elevator). But clearly, most residents thought that management had made a poor decision. I was very pleased that mangement immediately reversed its bad decision and made a much better one. >closed windows would make it airless, which I dislike. Opening and >closing my gazillions of windows with their storm windows is a big >undertaking, so I don't want to have to be doing that at party time. >Maybe the thing to do is have a few open windows until the last minute >before people arrive, then close them and turn on a/c just before people >get here. Sounds right. It's cool enough here that if I were entertaining this weekend, I would open windows and turn on one of the fans (there are two cooling-heating systems in this condo). Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 07:12:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9HCBx6q011026 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 07:11:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 75ABC1E602E9; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:16:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43FE61E602E4 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:16:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0C2A8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:10:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14191151 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:10:00 -0400 Received: from web20509.mail.yahoo.com (web20509.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.144]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9GN9x501993 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:09:59 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20509.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 16:09:58 PDT Message-ID: <20031016230958.32166.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 16:09:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Biscuits To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > UK 'water biscuit' (an old term) = US 'cracker' (a > plain, matzoh-like, > nearly tasteless crisp baked platform for savory > toppings) > > UK 'cracker' = US 'cracker' (Ritz brand crackers or > other flavorful crisp > baked food that could be enjoyed by itself or with > savory toppings) What, pray tell, is (or was) a digestive biscuit? It always sounded so indigestible. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 07:12:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9HCCi6q011203 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 07:12:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4977C1E6038C; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:31:53 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ADB41E60387 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:31:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0C679@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:25:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14201186 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:25:03 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9H2P3524873 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:25:03 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.157.194]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031017022458.HSEI14434.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:24:58 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8F52FC.3F2E03FD@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:25:00 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: <200310161836.h9GIaY522888@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3F8F3B1F.8080101@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > herd animals (or tribal animals -- same thing), and some Speaking of tribes, our little Mississippi redneck mortician done good tonight. > different -- they were mostly all trying to do what was > right -- whatever that is. Good point. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 07:48:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9HCmE6q011710 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 07:48:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 59DC21E60023; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 07:46:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29A811E60019 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 07:46:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A0D212@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 8:39:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14225415 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:39:57 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9HCdu501535 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:39:56 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h9HCdtDU019435 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 14:39:55 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h9HCds6B019433 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 14:39:54 +0200 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 14:39:54 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: my democratic/Democratic thermostat Message-ID: <20031017123954.GA19427@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3F8F5281.A16FAB6C@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = For the record - there was no formal vote (and I did not leave a note in = the elevator). But clearly, most residents thought that management had = made a poor decision. I was very pleased that mangement immediately = reversed its bad decision and made a much better one. No, most complaining residents thought management made a poor decision. What percentage of the residents chose to complain? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 07:57:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9HCvb6q011838 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 07:57:37 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 39DE41E600CC; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 07:56:10 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BF081E60023 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 07:56:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A0D23F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 8:49:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14225825 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:49:19 -0400 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9HCnJ502517 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:49:19 -0400 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 14:50:48 +0200 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id VB1HTQGP; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 14:50:42 +0200 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031017144115.03319fd8@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 14:41:49 +0200 Subject: Re: my democratic/Democratic thermostat In-Reply-To: <20031017123954.GA19427@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3F8F5281.A16FAB6C@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 14:39 17.10.2003 +0200 skrev steph: >= >= For the record - there was no formal vote (and I did not leave a note in >= the elevator). But clearly, most residents thought that management had >= made a poor decision. I was very pleased that mangement immediately >= reversed its bad decision and made a much better one. > >No, most complaining residents thought management made a poor >decision. What percentage of the residents chose to complain? This was a populistic thermostat rather than a democratic. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 08:02:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9HD246q011898 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:02:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DA9EE1E600CC; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:00:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABE9F1E60028 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:00:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0D27A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 8:53:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14226285 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:53:46 -0400 Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9HCrk503247 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:53:46 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HMW00AMXJTLLK@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:53:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.135] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:50:13 -0400 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:50:13 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Daisy's Gone To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <878a588e30.88e30878a5@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > What I meant was that no family lived in my home after I was married. You didn't consider the people that lived with you your family? I assume at some time your children lived with you and you were the mother-character of the family? Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 08:06:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9HD6K6q011974 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:06:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 13D5D1E60028; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:04:53 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5D451E60023 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:04:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0D29C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 8:58:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14225779 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:58:02 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9HCm1502396 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:48:01 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9HClgI7012453 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:47:42 -0400 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:48:01 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: my democratic/Democratic thermostat In-Reply-To: <20031017123954.GA19427@yoccoz.multinix.com> Message-ID: References: <3F8F5281.A16FAB6C@maynor.net> <20031017123954.GA19427@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, steph wrote: >No, most complaining residents thought management made a poor >decision. What percentage of the residents chose to complain? Since I do not know how many telephone calls were made, I don't know the answer to that question. No elevator notes supported the bad decision. The temperature alone demonstrated the wrongness of the decision. How often does one need full heat when the temp is in the 80s? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 08:15:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9HDFw6q012051 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:15:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E280B1E6025E; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:14:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0E6B1E600E3 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:14:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0D2BE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 9:07:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14227206 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 09:07:40 -0400 Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.75]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9HD7e505207 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 09:07:40 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HMW00CWAKGR1P@mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 09:07:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.135] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Fri, 17 Oct 2003 09:04:07 -0400 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 09:04:07 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Fake Letters To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <864b888b9a.88b9a864b8@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: > Speaking of tribes, our little Mississippi redneck mortician done good > tonight. That eating challenge was nothing compared to those in the past. I wouldn't have had any problem with things from the ocean, but could not imagine eating spiders, cow brains, or worst of all pulsating gigantic maggots. But how about that stupid Michelle? What a dunce. I think she just didn't get it. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 08:36:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9HDaQ6q012419 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:36:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 50B681E60398; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:44:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2186B1E60397 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:44:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0C6A0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:37:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14201645 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:37:18 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9H2bI526537 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:37:18 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.157.194]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031017023713.PTBX1822.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:37:13 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8F55DB.E454A47E@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:37:15 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie - Illegal Aliens? References: <20031017015643.10331.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > Whadduya think? Oh dear. And here we are at bedtime again. So this will be very brief. I need to turn off the computer. The reason I mentioned it was that I'm not sure what I think. I should add that I am not on top of the situation, as in knowing exactly what the illegal aliens are facing, what all the proposals are, etc. What I've been wondering about is what is right or wrong re helping illegal aliens -- as in government help. Since we have immigration laws, it seems reasonable that illegal aliens would not be treated the same as legal aliens. But if these illegal aliens became legal, they would be protected by laws like the minimum-wage laws. And that would bankrupt the companies now hiring them at tiny wages to do jobs no legal residents are willing to do. Supposedly they are happy to work for those tiny wages since those wages are better than what they were getting before they sneaked into the country. Should their children be allowed to go to public schools? (I say yes.) What about other benefits? Do their children become legal? I'm not asking these questions well at all. I think I need to postpone this until tomorrow. I need to turn off the computer and go to bed. I do want to talk about this stuff because I'm trying to figure it out and to figure out what I believe to be right. I have no to make about it now -- just questions. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 08:36:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9HDaP6q012418 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:36:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 58E191E603B0; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:17:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09B6D1E603AF for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:17:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0C94B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 23:10:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14206931 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 23:10:11 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9H3AA530989 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 23:10:10 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-250.inebraska.com [206.222.202.250]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9H3A57H028003 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:10:07 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <003901c3945c$0e359300$facadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200310161836.h9GIaY522888@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3F8F3B1F.8080101@swbell.net> Subject: Re: Re: Fake Letters Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:09:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > > > People were indeed taught to obey, and not encouraged to think > > independently; but given the number of people who think patently wrong and > > stupid things today as per the study we have been discussing, this is not a > > relevant point. > > > I think there is always a certain number of sheep -- we are > herd animals (or tribal animals -- same thing), and some > people will go along with what everybody else is doing. In > the 40's, everybody else was joining or allowing themselves > to be drafted. In the 60's, people were trying to evade the > draft. > > I also think that there are always a large number of people > who want to do what is right -- and will go along with the > prevailing opinion of what that is. In the 40's, fighting > was right. In the 60's, protesting for peace was right. > Values had changed. That doesn't mean the men were any > different -- they were mostly all trying to do what was > right -- whatever that is. > > > > -- > Rita Rouvalis Chapman That is very much what I was trying to say, even if in a slightly different way. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 08:36:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9HDaO6q012408 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:36:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5F2F61E6040E; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 23:40:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 302D91E6040C for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 23:40:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0CC57@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 0:33:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14212411 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 00:33:16 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9H4Vf506376 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 00:31:43 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h9H3VJDU018772 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 05:31:19 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h9H3HlJ1018748 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 05:17:47 +0200 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 05:17:47 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Biscuits Message-ID: <20031017031747.GA18706@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20031016230958.32166.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031016230958.32166.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne: = = What, pray tell, is (or was) a digestive biscuit? It = always sounded so indigestible. I think I like Jeremy: http://cgi.peak.org/~jeremy/retort.cgi?British=digestive%20biscuit "...just a semi-sweet wholemeal biscuit..." It's a whole wheat cookie. In it's simplest form, it's just a brown boring cookie, a bit thicker than a graham cracker, so with a bit more bite. I use them when I make Seven Layer Magic Cookie Bars, which is about the only thing I make with a graham cracker crust. And they're a good cookie for dunking, because they don't dissolve right away in your drink. Aside from plain, they also come most commonly covered in milk or dark chocolate. Yum. But, if you want a really tasty cookie, you need a bourbon biscuit. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 08:37:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9HDb56q012525 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:37:09 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DE72D1E602E0; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:12:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF361E602DF for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:12:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0C2A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:05:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14190889 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:05:58 -0400 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9GN5v501647 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:05:57 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 16:05:54 PDT Message-ID: <20031016230554.35191.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 16:05:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Fake Letters To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Indeed. Actually, it's likely that many of the > servicemen during world war > ii did indeed feel romantic about it, in the way > that young men and old > politicians often romanticize war. > > But suppose that you were having the same > conversation about German soldiers > (or for that matter, soldiers in any army you care > to name). Tell me, what > do you think were the motives of, say, the average > German foot soldier during > world war ii? How do those motives contrast with > the motives of the average > U.S. foot soldier? Do you think the motives of the > average U.S. foot soldier > were morally, spiritually, or by some other measure, > superior to those of > the German foot soldier? Do you think it's inhumage > to second guess the > motives of the German footsoldier? I have absolutely no reason to ascribe to German, Japanese, Korean, or any other foot soldiers any more insidious or base motives than I do to our soldiers. The Germans, et AL, were waging a war for what they believed to be the best interests of their country. That's what surely motivates all soldiers. Merely because they go to war does not make them villainous or evil. And because they died in a failed effort does not make them disposable. This entire discussion is so intricate as to be impossible to reduce to manageable terms. And, as Rash mi had pointed out, usually accomplishes little or nothing. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Fast, faster, fastest: Upgrade to Cable or DAL > today! > https://broadband.msn.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 08:37:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9HDbD6q012570 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:37:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D98971E60325; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:30:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A31EC1E60324 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:30:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A0C3E6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:24:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14194307 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:24:01 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f107.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.107]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9H0O0509111 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:24:00 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:23:55 -0700 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 00:23:55 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Fake Letters Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:23:55 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Oct 2003 00:23:55.0163 (UTC) FILETIME=[F2F97EB0:01C39444] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Very interesting points. >From: Carolyn Ostrander >As for not knowing countries argue nor seeing protests, these young men >were > children and teens during the labor protests of the '30s. They did indeed > know what protest was. They also knew about disagreement between >countries, > and lack of support for the League of Nations - at least if they attended > high school. I still have my mother's 1941 "Scholastic Magazine" >collection > from Social Studies (and my own as well - in spite of the Op Art in the > '60's version, they had a lot in common). There was at least as much >report > of political controversy in her day. > >One factor that probably was important in the success of recruiting efforts > both now and in the '40s was that there was a previous war with the same > combatants, and the propaganda machines had not really wound down between > times - villifying Germans was an old habit, and young men in the '40s >had > grown up listening to tales of atrocities from the '10s which, though > debunked in fact, were still part of the urban legends their elders >relived > in conversation. See Gulf War I reminiscences, inaccuracy of. > >clo _________________________________________________________________ Want to check if your PC is virus-infected? Get a FREE computer virus scan online from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 09:42:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9HEg46q013147 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 09:42:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 914B11E60029; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 09:40:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FB9C1E60022 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 09:40:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0D5B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 10:33:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14234201 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 10:33:46 -0400 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9HEXj520509 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 10:33:46 -0400 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9HEXbsV7315534 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 09:33:38 -0500 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 09:33:37 -0500 (CDT) From: nam gal sips clark X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: [PMX:#] baseball In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.0.4.77969 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Rashmi Murthy wrote: > I think you misunderstand. I was rooting for the Cubs and > felt very bad about Game 6. Poor fans. Oh, no, I understood what you were saying, and I agree. I was just adding the point that, typically, White Sox fans revel in any misfortune that befalls the Cubs (and vice versa), the more gut-wrenching, the better. But jibbering jesus, Tuesday was just too much. Ugh. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 09:59:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9HExP6q013476 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 09:59:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DE4671E6037F; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:03:35 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21FA11E6037D for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:03:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0C61E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:56:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14200025 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:56:44 -0400 Received: from web20513.mail.yahoo.com (web20513.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9H1uh521840 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:56:44 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20513.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:56:43 PDT Message-ID: <20031017015643.10331.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:56:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Natalie - Illegal Aliens? To: Wordslers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Whadduya think? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 11:24:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9HGNq6q014508 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 11:24:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A5B031E6039D; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:48:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 636351E6039B for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:48:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0C6C7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:41:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14201783 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:41:44 -0400 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9H2fi526928 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:41:44 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:41:43 PDT Message-ID: <20031017024143.94458.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:41:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Natalie - Illegal Aliens? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F8F55DB.E454A47E@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > The reason I mentioned it was that I'm not sure what > I think. I should > add that I am not on top of the situation, as in > knowing exactly what > the illegal aliens are facing, what all the > proposals are, etc. What > I've been wondering about is what is right or wrong > re helping illegal > aliens -- as in government help. Since we have > immigration laws, it > seems reasonable that illegal aliens would not be > treated the same as > legal aliens. But if these illegal aliens became > legal, they would be > protected by laws like the minimum-wage laws. And > that would bankrupt > the companies now hiring them at tiny wages to do > jobs no legal > residents are willing to do. Supposedly they are > happy to work for > those tiny wages since those wages are better than > what they were > getting before they sneaked into the country. > Should their children be > allowed to go to public schools? (I say yes.) What > about other > benefits? Do their children become legal? > > I'm not asking these questions well at all. I think > I need to postpone > this until tomorrow. I need to turn off the > computer and go to bed. I > do want to talk about this stuff because I'm trying > to figure it out and > to figure out what I believe to be right. I have no > to make > about it now -- just questions. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I believe "sleeping on it" may be the best idea of the day. 'Night. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 11:55:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9HGtF6q014889 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 11:55:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 172741E600E0; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 11:29:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCE231E60017 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 11:29:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0DA2A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:22:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14244565 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:22:13 -0400 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9HGCD510601 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:12:13 -0400 Received: from ra.msstate.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.12.10/8.12.8/ra_1.2) with ESMTP; id h9HGCBaK027431 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 11:12:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from maynor@localhost) by ra.msstate.edu (8.12.10/8.12.7/Submit) id h9HGCBvJ027430 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 11:12:11 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 11:12:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Natalie Maynor Message-Id: <200310171612.h9HGCBvJ027430@ra.msstate.edu> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Happy Feet Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I used this morning's heavy rain as the perfect moment for wearing the BB-like shoes I bought in Tupelo a few weeks ago. They are a definite success. My feet have felt quite happy all day. They aren't twins of BB's snow-stompers. They're just somewhat like them -- black clodhopperish shoes that defy the elements. Maybe I'll take a picture of them sometime and post it. When feet are happy, life is happy. I'll be glad when my box of Birks arrives. I don't need the Madrids now, but I'm looking forward to the clogs. --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 11:55:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9HGtH6q014920 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 11:55:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2B5421E600E3; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 11:31:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8A181E60017 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 11:31:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A0DA51@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:24:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14244745 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:24:34 -0400 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9HGEY511039 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:14:34 -0400 Received: from ra.msstate.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.12.10/8.12.8/ra_1.2) with ESMTP; id h9HGEWaK028195 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 11:14:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from maynor@localhost) by ra.msstate.edu (8.12.10/8.12.7/Submit) id h9HGEWLN028193 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 11:14:32 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 11:14:32 -0500 (CDT) From: Natalie Maynor Message-Id: <200310171614.h9HGEWLN028193@ra.msstate.edu> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Here They Are Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mine are black. http://akamai.easyspirit.com/images/products/ESWATFORDPD.jpg --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 12:03:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9HH3u6q015095 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:03:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2B1D31E60093; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:02:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F026B1E60063 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:02:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A0DB5E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:55:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14247853 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:55:33 -0400 Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.74]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9HGtW520400 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:55:32 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HMW00I53V0KU3@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:55:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.135] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:51:58 -0400 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:51:58 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: (Fwd) London To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <70533714f8.714f870533@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: bonniev > >I saw a student humming along in a Humvee yesterday and thought > it was a > >strange choice of vehicle. -- Natalie > > My vitreoretinal consultant drives a Humvee. He says he is > supporting the > technology so that we will always have it for wars in the future. > Mostly,though, I think he's a little boy enjoying a toy. My TKD master drives a black Hummer with the school name emblazoned on the side. I don't think he knows that many hold them in disdain -- although he must be aware of the amount of gas it uses. I otherwise like this person very much, and given our relationship I don't bring it up. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 12:46:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9HHkY6q015562 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:46:37 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AC90C1E60365; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:31:15 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79EC71E60364 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:31:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0C4C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:24:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14196593 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:24:25 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f15.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9H1OP514167 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:24:25 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:24:19 -0700 Received: from 64.24.186.133 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 01:24:19 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.24.186.133] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: [PMX:#] baseball Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 01:24:19 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Oct 2003 01:24:19.0589 (UTC) FILETIME=[634D0350:01C3944D] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I've been feeling sorry for us Phillies fans over the way the > > season ended - time to transfer my sympathy to Cubs fans. >Ah, jeez. Even I, a maniacal White Sox fan >into his fifth decade of Cub contempt, can't >work up any glee over that. > >As The Baseball Crank said, "There are tough >losses, there are devastating losses, and then >there's what happened to the Cubs on Tuesday". I think you misunderstand. I was rooting for the Cubs and felt very bad about Game 6. Poor fans. _________________________________________________________________ Enjoy MSN 8 patented spam control and more with MSN 8 Dial-up Internet Service. Try it FREE for one month! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 12:46:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9HHkq6q015586 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:46:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AC7A51E602C0; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:39:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AE891E602B0 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:39:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0C1C4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:32:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14188997 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:32:57 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GMWv530583 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:32:57 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.157.194]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031016223252.GHQI1828.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:32:52 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8F1C96.E5D99874@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:32:54 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: <20031016013435.10618.qmail@web20511.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031016084326.00b23880@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > I think "mind-set" is a much broader term than just political, if it even > is political. I would say about you, for example: > > Natalie has the kind of mind-set that makes it almost impossible for her to > be in debt for anything other than a house mortgage. She even saves up > money for her next car rather than pay interest charges on a car loan. > > Natalie is of the mind-set that one should live wherever one feels most > comfortable, hang the expense or trouble of moving. > > Natalie's mind-set is such that travel seems like a worthwhile expense to > her whereas a glamorous wardrobe would be way low on her priority list. > > Etc. Thanks for the examples. They make more sense to me than thinking that one has a mindset re whatever it was we were talking about. I don't agree with all the specifics of your examples, btw, but I see the point of what mindset means in relation to such things. The first example works fine. That's definitely my mindset. The second example isn't totally accurate since I don't think there's a *should* involved. I've said that people can live where they want to, not that they necessarily should move. And the third example is fine, assuming it's clear that we're talking about my personal choices, not what I think should necessarily be everybody's choices. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 12:47:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9HHkw6q015619 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:47:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A918F1E602D3; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:56:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AD3B1E602D2 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:56:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A0C247@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:49:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14190027 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:49:22 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GMnL532503 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:49:21 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.157.194]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031016224916.GNHH1828.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:49:16 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8F206E.34FF3BCD@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:49:18 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beer Bread References: <200310161842.h9GIgC524340@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >PS: Re Mickey Mantle. I might also have said here before that my > >desire at about age twelve was to marry a combination professional > >baseball player and Methodist preacher. > > Sorry, my Dad was already taken. Just think -- if he hadn't been, I might have been your mother! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 13:48:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9HIm96q016270 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 13:48:09 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 24E4A1E6005E; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 13:46:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8B3F1E6001B for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 13:46:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0DE7D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 14:39:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14255731 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 14:39:49 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9HIdnF07148 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 14:39:49 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001AD355@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 14:39:48 -0400 Message-Id: <200310171839.h9HIdnF07148@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 14:39:49 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Fake Letters To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:43:11 -0500, Rita Chapman wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > > > >> People were indeed taught to obey, and not encouraged to think >> independently; but given the number of people who think patently wrong and >> stupid things today as per the study we have been discussing, this is not a >> relevant point. > > > I think there is always a certain number of sheep -- we are >herd animals (or tribal animals -- same thing), and some >people will go along with what everybody else is doing. In >the 40's, everybody else was joining or allowing themselves >to be drafted. In the 60's, people were trying to evade the >draft. > > I also think that there are always a large number of people >who want to do what is right -- and will go along with the >prevailing opinion of what that is. In the 40's, fighting >was right. In the 60's, protesting for peace was right. >Values had changed. That doesn't mean the men were any >different -- they were mostly all trying to do what was >right -- whatever that is. > > I maintain that evaluations of the past have changed more than the values themselves did. In the 30's and 40's there was plenty of debate and dissent; for instance, many argued that getting into the war was wrong. In the 60's, protest was not generally seen as right. While there were young people who approved of and were involved in protest (just as in , eg, the 30's), most people condemned them as irresponsible and misguided. Sympathy for the protest movement came primarily after the fact, as when (for instance) my father belatedly realized that his troubled young parishioners had been making truthful claims about Nixon's deceit, the illicit incursions into Cambodia and Laos, etc, political corruption, etc. There are also other factors at play: for instance, the "next wave" backlash against the idealism of the '30s and '60s is a factor in the difficulty in getting a serious appraisal of events and attitudes of the times; but it was also a factor in the increased willingness to ignore or belittle the issues raised by activists, as well as (perhaps) an increased militaristic volunteerism and concomitant decreased social volunteerism on the part of cynical youths. Your point about draft evasion becoming the popular wave late in the Vietnam era is well taken; even some sheep were doing it. Was it greater than in WWII? I am not convinced the numbers will bear that assumption out. As deaths mounted, shortages pinched more, and people learned of methods to avoid the draft, it may well have become more popular to avoid "being called". Then again, WWII involvement only lasted 4 years and a little. The Vietnam draft ran much longer, and that was probably a factor in the momentum against the war. It would be interesting to talk to an expert on the demographics of conscription in that era.... The only historian I know in this field focuses on the Civil War era, during which activism against - and avoidance of - conscription was much stronger. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 14:25:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9HJPG6q016764 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 14:25:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AC8111E6009A; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 14:02:43 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 388C31E600C1 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 14:02:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0DF04@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 14:55:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14257027 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 14:55:52 -0400 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9HItpF10278 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 14:55:51 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.5f.40678bc1 (16930) for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 14:55:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <5f.40678bc1.2cc19518@aol.com> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 14:55:20 EDT Subject: Re: Daisy's Gone To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/17/2003 6:53:58 AM, 14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET writes: >You didn't consider the people that lived with you your family? I assume >at some time your children lived with you and you were the mother-character >of the family? > Of course I considered my children family. What I had in mind was my early marriage before we had any children when I was living in Germany, and relatively close to my mom and dad. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 14:25:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9HJPG6q016766 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 14:25:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 025D91E600A9; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 14:04:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FA721E600DB for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 14:04:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0DF46@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 14:57:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14257382 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 14:57:12 -0400 Received: from vbn.inter-touch.net ([194.205.224.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9HIvBF10964 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 14:57:12 -0400 Received: from test2kserver (unknown [10.5.0.53]) by vbn.inter-touch.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D76BB340804 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:57:07 +0000 (/etc/localtime) From: "Tony Harminc" To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 14:53:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: (Fwd) London Message-ID: <3F900276.10293.262DDB@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3F8F2570.5D8C7899@maynor.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 16 Oct 2003 at 18:10, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > No - he just couldn't find a long term job. He was naturalized > > during the war years and served in the Royal Engineers, but > > couldn't find anything in architecture after the war. > > Naturalized? What was he before he was British? Slovak. Although Harminc is a Hungarian name, but things have been well mixed up in that part of the world for centuries. Harminc is the Hungarian word for the number 30, but it is a very rare Hungarian name, so was probably the result of that classic immigration story of someone arriving from elsewhere with a weird foreign name and having it changed to something pronounceable by an official. My dad speculated that it was Dutch, because the painter Rembrandt had the middle name Harminz, but the connection is tenuous. > That makes a kind of sense. You were born in the UK to UK parents and > had to a Canadian citizen. Iow, your UKness was stronger than > that of your sisters, who were automatically Canadian citizens because > they were born there, though British also because of their parents. One can also (as the British Nationality Act does) view it entirely from the perspective of the person's (child's) claim to citizenship. They don't want the claims to go on forever down the generations. The Canadian rules require that a putative citizen born abroad has to establish a "substantial connection to Canada" by age 21. > It's going to be interesting to see what my nine-year-old friend Akane > decides upon reaching twenty-one (or I guess that's the age in Japan > also). As a child she's both U.S. and Japanese, but Japan does not > allow dual citizenship for adults, so, unless they change that, she'll > have to make a decision. Certainly views on dual (or multiple) citizenship vary a lot, even within any one country. There's an interesting FAQ on the matter written from a mostly US perspective at http://www.richw.org/dualcit/ . Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 15:17:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9HKH86q017430 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 15:17:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9F0B61E60358; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:12:48 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 708EB1E60354 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:12:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0C49A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:05:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14195934 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:05:58 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law9-oe30.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.87]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9H15w512365 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:05:58 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:05:49 -0700 Received: from 199.174.1.117 by law9-oe30.law9.hotmail.com with DAV; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 01:05:49 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [199.174.1.117] X-Originating-Email: [amyb_short@hotmail.com] From: "Amy Burns Short" To: Subject: Nice Moments in Luhvul Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:05:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Oct 2003 01:05:49.0655 (UTC) FILETIME=[CDBA8670:01C3944A] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Happened to be in Louisville today and my itinerary fortuitously included some of the festivities of the 20th anniversary of the Kentucky Center for the Performing Arts ... I was even given a tee shirt. I can't work up a sweat over "The Lion King," and passed a chance to catch it in Atlanta back in the spring, but it would be nice to catch Sam Bush again over at the Brown. My ole bud Byron House, hot off the Jorma-and-Jack-circuit, is SB's current bassman. AS From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 16:40:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9HLeD6q018447 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 16:40:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 967911E602CD; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:46:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 660C21E602C5 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:46:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0C20E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:39:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14189455 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:39:21 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GMdL531339 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:39:21 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.157.194]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031016223915.GJWT1828.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:39:15 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8F1E15.7C880D43@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:39:17 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031016090738.00b9abf8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > I even listen and consider the voice and reason of Doris > Markland. Even? Hers is one of the voices I am most likely to listen to and consider. I think I've said that before. I won't get into naming names of those Wordslers I tend just to bleep out, but I will say that I can't imagine Doris's being among them. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 16:41:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9HLfs6q018614 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 16:41:57 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2B2CC1E602CE; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:52:24 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB81A1E602C3 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:52:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0C20A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:45:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14189686 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:45:34 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GMjY531945 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:45:34 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.157.194]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031016224529.GMAC1828.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:45:29 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8F1F8B.E1078A@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:45:31 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Biscuits References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thanks, Ben. Nice, clear answer. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 16:59:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9HLx56q018969 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 16:59:05 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 275771E60269; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 16:57:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E88BB1E60268 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 16:57:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0E4D2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 17:50:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14271051 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 17:50:43 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9HLoh307684 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 17:50:43 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-28.gwi.net [216.195.153.28]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9HLofGn052425 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 17:50:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031017175038.00b35f98@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 17:50:53 -0400 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: bonniev Subject: a Christmas card for Marie Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.artinstituteshop.org/item.asp?catID=6&subcatID=6&productID=1405 bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 17:12:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9HMCg6q019146 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 17:12:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D073C1E600B0; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 17:11:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F08F1E60070 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 17:11:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0E51E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:04:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14271762 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:04:21 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9HM4L309194 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:04:21 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.160.205]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031017220415.UZQM14434.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:04:15 -0400 Message-ID: <3F906761.79D9452E@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 17:04:17 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: (Fwd) London References: <3F900276.10293.262DDB@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tony Harminc wrote: > Slovak. Although Harminc is a Hungarian name, but things have been > well mixed up in that part of the world for centuries. Harminc is > the Hungarian word for the number 30, but it is a very rare > Hungarian name, so was probably the result of that classic > immigration story of someone arriving from elsewhere with a weird > foreign name and having it changed to something pronounceable by an > official. My dad speculated that it was Dutch, because the painter > Rembrandt had the middle name Harminz, but the connection is > tenuous. Interesting. Surely we have discussed this before. It rings very distant bells in my creaky, cracky brain. > One can also (as the British Nationality Act does) view it entirely > from the perspective of the person's (child's) claim to > citizenship. They don't want the claims to go on forever down the > generations. The Canadian rules require that a putative citizen > born abroad has to establish a "substantial connection to Canada" > by age 21. I'm suddenly thinking about my friends, both U.S. citizens, whose first child was born in England (30+ years ago). They were there just that one year on some kind of postdoctoral fellowship. I'm pretty sure that they were under the impression that he would have to choose between British and U.S. citizenship upon reaching 21. Either they were simply wrong, or the rules changed after that, allowing dual citizenship (from the U.S. pov). I'm not sure whether their son did anything to try to maintain the British citizenship when he reached adulthood, though. Probably not. But that's all background to what I was wondering about: Say he did keep both citizenships, the U.S. from his partentage, the British from his place of birth. He's married now (to a USAer, living in the USA) and has children (born in the USA). Would they have been entitled to British citizenship, if he had dual citizenship? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 17:13:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9HMDa6q019157 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 17:13:36 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 29A481E600C1; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 17:12:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE0131E60070 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 17:12:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001AE0EF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:05:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14271817 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:05:14 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9HM5E309284 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:05:14 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.160.205]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031017220508.UZYA14434.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:05:08 -0400 Message-ID: <3F906796.3D232D3A@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 17:05:10 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a Christmas card for Marie References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031017175038.00b35f98@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > http://www.artinstituteshop.org/item.asp?catID=6&subcatID=6&productID=1405 Wonderful! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 17:47:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9HMlg6q019477 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 17:47:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 498221E600C1; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 17:46:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16B261E60070 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 17:46:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A0E598@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:39:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14273027 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:39:20 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9HMdK312180 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:39:20 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.160.205]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031017223915.CWXC1822.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:39:15 -0400 Message-ID: <3F906F95.DD860EA4@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 17:39:17 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Rude Yankees Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I can just hear my dead friend Mary Ann right now talking about one of our long-ago colleagues, whom she liked, and how you just had to forgive him for social gaffes because "he's a yankee and so doesn't know any better." She was dead serious, which I always found hilarious. She is no doubt shaking her head in her grave at a cultural tidbit that occurred to me a little while ago while making ham and cheese pinwheels. I rarely put RSVP on invitations for parties of this kind since my planning tends to be the same regardless of what I know about how many people are coming (as in what percentage of those invited -- I do plan slightly differently for a party with 300 people invited and one with 50 invited). But these shower invitations had RSVP built in, so I went on and filled in that blank with my phone number and my e-mail address. While rolling up messy glop on ham and cheese while ago, I started thinking about who all had replied, and something struck me: 100% of the Southerners replied, while only a handful of the Yankees replied. Doris will be proud that the Yankees who did reply included our only two Midwesterners (Nebraska and Indiana). Hmm. Minnesoto is also Midwest, isn't it? Our Minnesotan didn't reply. But he's new this year -- hasn't been in the Sucky South long enough to be expected to have learned good manners. ;-) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 18:04:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9HN3w6q019700 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:04:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6FEC01E602C8; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:43:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 413481E602C5 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:43:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A0C1F3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:36:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14189300 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:36:29 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GMaT531026 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:36:29 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.157.194]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031016223624.GIXQ1828.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:36:24 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8F1D6A.F1878C25@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:36:26 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the name References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031016085913.00b85b20@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > >the experience of daydreaming > >while something in reality is at the same time might lead to > >distorted memories, even for somebody who has not lost the capacity to > >distinguish one from the other. -- Natalie > > As can vivid dreams. There have been times in the past when I woke up > totally annoyed at someone and then had to remind myself all day long that > it was only in a dream that the individual had done something to piss me off. I'm still wondering about those houses I thought I had looked at somewhere in the past. I'm thinking more and more that they were an earlier dream -- maybe even the same night as the dream that I remembered the next morning. Maybe I had that first dream early in the night and when I remembered it while thinking about the later dream, it seemed like something that occurred years ago. The mind is fascinating. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 18:04:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9HN4U6q019819 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:04:33 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ECE2C1E602BF; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:30:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDBB31E602BD for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:30:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A0C19B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:23:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14188427 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:23:41 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GMNe529362 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:23:40 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.157.194]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031016222335.GDZJ1828.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:23:35 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8F1A69.999FBB81@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:23:37 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For prb (and others) References: <65.1a9904b5.2cb80fc6@aol.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031016125331.034aa048@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen Ore wrote: > act 8 scene 1 and act 8 scene 2 and lasted for one and a half hours, so a full play would probably be a lasting experience. Indeed. I can't remember what the typical length is, but it's many, many hours. I don't think many people go to a whole performance, though some do. There are breaks when people go sit in the lobby area and eat food they've brought with them, etc. Or at least that's how it works in Tokyo. I was fascinated by the one bunraku performance I saw (saw a few hours of, that is). A friend of mine there always buys two season tickets (there are something like three performances a year) and takes a different person to each one. I was the lucky guest to one of them. I remember being surprised when we got there to learn that we were starting our viewing something like five hours into the play -- that it had started at noon, but we arrived around five. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 18:45:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9HNji6q020496 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:45:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 779F41E600DB; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:44:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4854C1E600C2 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:44:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0E645@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 19:37:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14274897 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 19:37:22 -0400 Received: from vbn.inter-touch.net ([194.205.224.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9HNbL316551 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 19:37:21 -0400 Received: from test2kserver (unknown [10.5.0.53]) by vbn.inter-touch.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ABF7340804 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 23:37:19 +0000 (/etc/localtime) From: "Tony Harminc" To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 19:33:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: (Fwd) London Message-ID: <3F904421.28807.126B1AE@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3F906761.79D9452E@maynor.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 17 Oct 2003 at 17:04, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I'm suddenly thinking about my friends, both U.S. citizens, whose first > child was born in England (30+ years ago). They were there just that > one year on some kind of postdoctoral fellowship. I'm pretty sure that > they were under the impression that he would have to choose between > British and U.S. citizenship upon reaching 21. Either they were simply > wrong, or the rules changed after that, allowing dual citizenship (from > the U.S. pov). I'm not sure whether their son did anything to try to > maintain the British citizenship when he reached adulthood, though. > Probably not. But that's all background to what I was wondering about: > Say he did keep both citizenships, the U.S. from his partentage, the > British from his place of birth. He's married now (to a USAer, living > in the USA) and has children (born in the USA). Would they have been > entitled to British citizenship, if he had dual citizenship? I'm not sure why you say "would have been". Based on what you say, I think they probably still are, but it really takes an expert to evaluate the various possible factors. That FAQ I suggested in the last post has a very good general summary of what it's all about, and then covers the US/Canada situation in detail from the US POV. Your either/or above is also perhaps not right. It may well be that the old rules were merely that, and that later court decision(s) made it clear that such rules were unconstitutional. Certainly the FAQ suggests that. http://www.richw.org/dualcit/ Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 18:46:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9HNkG6q020503 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:46:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D0E591E600C2; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:44:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2C691E60070 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:44:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A0E654@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 19:37:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14274910 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 19:37:54 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9HNbr316600 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 19:37:54 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.160.205]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031017233748.KGDR1826.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 19:37:48 -0400 Message-ID: <3F907D4E.C21D5DAB@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:37:50 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Netscape Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I think I mentioned a good while back that I didn't like that when I started downloading mail through Netscape, clutter jumped onto my screen with headlines, etc. I don't know that I've mentioned that I changed my mind about that. I like that feature now. You know when something like "Do you know what the worst driving distractions are?" hops onto your screen that nothing terrible (or wonderful) has happened in the world since you last checked news -- that it's filler time. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 18:50:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9HNot6q020556 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:50:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4E5D01E600C2; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:49:24 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2068F1E60070 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:49:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001AE26C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 19:42:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14274983 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 19:42:30 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9HNgU316863 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 19:42:30 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.160.205]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031017234224.KHSK1826.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 19:42:24 -0400 Message-ID: <3F907E62.3B025FEC@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:42:26 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: (Fwd) London References: <3F904421.28807.126B1AE@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tony Harminc wrote: > I'm not sure why you say "would have been". Based on what you say, > I think they probably still are, but it really takes an expert to > evaluate the various possible factors. That FAQ I suggested in the > last post has a very good general summary of what it's all about, > and then covers the US/Canada situation in detail from the US POV. I should e-mail my friends and inquire. They left here about five years ago -- retired from here and are double-dipping as dean (she) and professor (he) elsewhere. I last saw him on my last birthday -- ate breakfast with him and a couple of other people in the Starkville Cafe when he was doing a quick zip through town. I haven't seen her in a good many years now. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 18:53:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9HNrk6q020575 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:53:46 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 80EA31E600C2; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:52:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F9BE1E60070 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:52:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0E652@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 19:45:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14275046 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 19:45:24 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9HNjN317021 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 19:45:23 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9HNjN8b020595 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 19:45:23 -0400 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9HNjNfC032474 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 19:45:23 -0400 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 19:45:20 -0400 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Rude Yankees Message-ID: <98453562.1066419920@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <3F906F95.DD860EA4@maynor.net> References: <3F906F95.DD860EA4@maynor.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --On Friday, October 17, 2003 5:39 PM -0500 Natalie Maynor wrote: > > 100% of the Southerners replied, while only a handful of the Yankees > replied. Ummm, I always reply to RSVPs and actually get annoyed with people who don't. Although I've slipped a bit this year, I have required the children to write thank-you notes for gifts. What's the acceptable time limit on these? I'm 1.5 months late on one. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 18:57:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9HNvl6q020612 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:57:48 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3AAD81E600DB; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:56:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D1FC1E60070 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:56:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0E677@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 19:49:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14275150 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 19:49:25 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9HNnP317248 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 19:49:25 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9HNnP8b020646 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 19:49:25 -0400 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9HNnPfC000435 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 19:49:25 -0400 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 19:49:22 -0400 From: Terry Wild To: Words-L Subject: The bomb cashier Message-ID: <98695312.1066420162@TWild.uri.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU While in the supermarket checkout line, the woman ahead of me used the check printing feature. Upon being shown her printed check she nodded at the clerk and said, "You're the bomb!" I turned away so I wouldn't giggle. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 19:27:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9I0Rj6q020884 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 19:27:48 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F1CBF1E602D6; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:02:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C29261E602D2 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:02:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A0C267@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:55:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14190401 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:55:13 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9GMtC500823 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:55:13 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.157.194]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031016225507.GPGS1828.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:55:07 -0400 Message-ID: <3F8F21CD.C8B2CB68@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:55:09 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Just Sixty-Five Minutes!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Until Survivor! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 19:27:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9I0Rp6q020887 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 19:27:54 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F36D61E60312; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:15:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3C081E60311 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:15:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0C39A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:08:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14193628 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:08:47 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f7.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9H08k507643 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:08:46 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:08:41 -0700 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 00:08:40 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: cute Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:08:40 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Oct 2003 00:08:41.0153 (UTC) FILETIME=[D22EA310:01C39442] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kudos to whichever meeber arranged for me to receive in today's post a Christian chain letter bearing, on the outside, a message saying "this house is blessed." Inside the envelope, courtesy of "The St. Matthew's Churches" in Tulsa, Oklahoma, I found a prayer rug complete with an optical illusion in which the eyes of Christ slowly open, plus simple instructions for persuading god to give me financial blessings. Of course, it won't work unless I pass the prayer rug onto someone else..... _________________________________________________________________ Surf and talk on the phone at the same time with broadband Internet access. Get high-speed for as low as $29.95/month (depending on the local service providers in your area). https://broadband.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 20:24:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9I1Od6q021612 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 20:24:39 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0418B1E601EA; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 20:23:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C24B81E600E7 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 20:23:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0E779@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:16:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14277734 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:16:16 -0400 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9I1GA323182 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:16:10 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:16:09 PDT Message-ID: <20031018011609.12858.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:16:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Biscuits To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031017031747.GA18706@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > It's a whole wheat cookie. In it's simplest form, > it's just a > brown boring cookie, a bit thicker than a graham > cracker, so with > a bit more bite. I use them when I make Seven Layer > Magic Cookie > Bars, which is about the only thing I make with a > graham cracker > crust. > > And they're a good cookie for dunking, because they > don't > dissolve right away in your drink. > > Aside from plain, they also come most commonly > covered in milk or > dark chocolate. Yum. > > But, if you want a really tasty cookie, you need a > bourbon > biscuit. Thank you Steph! Now that's a really descriptive definition, with serving suggestions on the side. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 20:30:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9I1U06q021638 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 20:30:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 543091E600E7; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 20:28:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 229C61E600DC for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 20:28:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0E767@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:21:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14277838 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:21:37 -0400 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9I1Lb323525 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:21:37 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:21:36 PDT Message-ID: <20031018012136.11433.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:21:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: my democratic/Democratic thermostat To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Sounds right. It's cool enough here that if I were > entertaining this > weekend, I would open windows and turn on one of the > fans (there are two > cooling-heating systems in this condo). Bethany, I don't know what it is, but something tells me you are going to ADORE HH? Now what about the bless? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 20:33:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9I1XS6q021707 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 20:33:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 903551E600E7; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 20:31:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 600321E600E3 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 20:31:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A0E782@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:25:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14277959 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:25:06 -0400 Received: from web20511.mail.yahoo.com (web20511.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.150]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9I1P5323890 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:25:05 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20511.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:25:05 PDT Message-ID: <20031018012505.57463.qmail@web20511.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:25:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: my democratic/Democratic thermostat To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > temperature alone demonstrated the wrongness of the > decision. How often > does one need full heat when the temp is in the 80s? > > Bethany The whole notion of "elevator notes" is intriguing. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 20:38:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9I1cG6q021776 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 20:38:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C8CD01E600E7; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 20:36:43 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 977811E600E3 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 20:36:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A0E78E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:29:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14278109 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:29:53 -0400 Received: from web20512.mail.yahoo.com (web20512.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9I1Tq324358 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:29:52 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20512.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:29:52 PDT Message-ID: <20031018012952.44932.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:29:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: (Fwd) London To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <70533714f8.714f870533@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > My TKD master drives a black Hummer with the school > name emblazoned on the side. I don't think he knows > that many hold them in disdain -- although he must > be aware of the amount of gas it uses. I otherwise > like this person very much, and given our > relationship I don't bring it up. Diplomacy at work. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 20:43:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9I1hp6q021836 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 20:43:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 976F71E601EA; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 20:42:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 667981E600E3 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 20:42:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0E791@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:35:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14277948 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:34:48 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9I1Om323822 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:24:48 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9I1OSI7031448 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:24:28 -0400 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:24:48 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: my democratic/Democratic thermostat In-Reply-To: <20031018012136.11433.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031018012136.11433.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >Bethany, I don't know what it is, but something tells >me you are going to ADORE HH? Now what about the bless? In due time! I still have not found any of my dishes - the dining-room is filled with unpacked boxes. And I have trips scheduled the next two Thurs-Sundays! I'll spend this weekend getting ready for the one to Utah. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 20:47:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9I1lA6q021891 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 20:47:10 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BF69E1E601EA; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 20:45:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89EFA1E600E7 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 20:45:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0E7B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:38:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14278081 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:38:47 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9I1Sl324270 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:28:47 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9I1SRI7032087 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:28:27 -0400 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:28:47 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: my democratic/Democratic thermostat In-Reply-To: <20031018012505.57463.qmail@web20511.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031018012505.57463.qmail@web20511.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >The whole notion of "elevator notes" is intriguing. I loved the whole scenario! I do love HH - I have wanted to live here for many years, but was not certain I would ever be able to afford to. About 3 years ago I looked at the units I thought I could afford at that time - 2-bedroom fixer-uppers on the lower floors. I decided against those, and I am delighted that I did. There are some very small 1-bedroom units in my building - I may want one of those someday. Or I may want to move to where I can have a dog when I get ready to take my profit out of this one. Or my mother may need to live here - there are many options. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 20:54:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9I1sh6q022034 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 20:54:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7C9A01E600E7; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 20:53:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B0AC1E600C4 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 20:53:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001AE3BF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:46:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14278551 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:46:16 -0400 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9I1kG325345 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:46:16 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:46:15 PDT Message-ID: <20031018014615.67105.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:46:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Rude Yankees To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F906F95.DD860EA4@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU While rolling up messy glop on ham and > cheese while ago, I > started thinking about who all had replied, and > something struck me: > 100% of the Southerners replied, while only a > handful of the Yankees > replied. Doris will be proud that the Yankees who > did reply included > our only two Midwesterners (Nebraska and Indiana). > Hmm. Minnesota is > also Midwest, isn't it? Our Minnesotan didn't > reply. But he's new this > year -- hasn't been in the Sucky South long enough > to be expected to > have learned good manners. ;-) But, otoh, I have serious problems with the sucky Southern habit of dropping in on folks completely announced - plus, the other side of the coin - indicating one will arrive for a predetermined appointment, and then showing up hours late, or not at all. Not only rude, irresponsible. :-] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 21:06:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9I26H6q022152 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:06:18 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 637411E601EE; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:04:45 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 360C01E601EA for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:04:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A0E7D4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:57:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14278781 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:57:54 -0400 Received: from web20501.mail.yahoo.com (web20501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.136]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9I1vs325881 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:57:54 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:57:53 PDT Message-ID: <20031018015753.10889.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:57:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Rude Yankees To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031018014615.67105.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Lynne Weber wrote: > While rolling up messy glop on ham and > > cheese while ago, I > > started thinking about who all had replied, and > > something struck me: > > 100% of the Southerners replied, while only a > > handful of the Yankees > > replied. Doris will be proud that the Yankees who > > did reply included > > our only two Midwesterners (Nebraska and Indiana). > > Hmm. Minnesota is > > also Midwest, isn't it? Our Minnesotan didn't > > reply. But he's new this > > year -- hasn't been in the Sucky South long enough > > to be expected to > > have learned good manners. ;-) > > But, otoh, I have serious problems with the sucky > Southern habit of dropping in on folks completely > unannounced - plus, the other side of the coin - > ^indicating one will arrive for a predetermined > appointment, and then showing up hours late, or not > at > all. Not only rude, irresponsible. :-] > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product > search > http://shopping.yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 21:32:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9I2Wp6q022365 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:32:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4C42C1E600EA; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:31:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ACA21E600E7 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:31:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0E81D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 22:24:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14279656 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 22:24:28 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9I2OS327775 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 22:24:28 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.160.205]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031018022423.MBLR1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 22:24:23 -0400 Message-ID: <3F90A452.1C434BDE@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:24:19 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Telephones Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU One really should not answer the telephone. I don't know why I did it tonight. I was sitting there enjoying a movie about a woman with alzheimers when the phone rang. I paused, thinking I wouldn't answer it, but then decided to on a whim. It was an old tennis friend from my brief tennis career, and we talked for ages, but I missed the end of the movie. I wish she'd do e-mail instead. She retired when computers became a requirement, though, and has never been into them. She and her very elderly husband moved closer to where their sons lived (the Southwest) six or eight years ago. Her husband died, and she's still living there and enjoying life because she's the life-enjoying kind, though it was sad for me to hear that she's had to stop driving. She said that it does get to her at times that she is dependent on the "old people's bus" and friends and sons to transport her -- that she misses her independence. She was a WWII bride in England and then lived in Starkville for over fifty years and has a wonderful combination of British and Mississippi accent. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 21:37:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9I2b36q022430 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:37:03 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3901D1E600EA; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:35:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3F1A1E600E7 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:35:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0E83C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 22:28:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14279716 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 22:28:40 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9I2Se327965 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 22:28:40 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.160.205]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031018022835.MDAT1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 22:28:35 -0400 Message-ID: <3F90A554.791648E2@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:28:36 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Rude Yankees References: <3F906F95.DD860EA4@maynor.net> <98453562.1066419920@TWild.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Terry Wild wrote: > Although I've slipped a bit this year, I have required the children > to write thank-you notes for gifts. That is a very good thing. I definitely notice whose children do and don't write thank-you notes. My nephew has never in his life written one. His mother probably hasn't either -- nor his father in adulthood, though he was taught to do it in childhood. > What's the acceptable time limit on > these? I'm 1.5 months late on one. I don't know. I'm a believer in doing it immediately, but I'm mutant. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 21:39:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9I2d16q022451 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:39:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4BB421E600EA; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:37:29 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E5D91E600E7 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:37:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0E828@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 22:30:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14279788 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 22:30:38 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9I2Uc328097 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 22:30:38 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.160.205]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031018023032.MDTB1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 22:30:32 -0400 Message-ID: <3F90A5CA.39457A27@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:30:34 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: my democratic/Democratic thermostat References: <20031018012136.11433.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > In due time! I still have not found any of my dishes - the dining-room is > filled with unpacked boxes. And I have trips scheduled the next two > Thurs-Sundays! I'll spend this weekend getting ready for the one to Utah. And this is fall break at UT. I know that because the son of some friends of mine showed up in the MSU cafeteria yesterday and ate lunch with us. He's a first-year TA in math at UT. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 21:43:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9I2hV6q022524 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:43:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C98ED1E600EA; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:41:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BC461E600E7 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:41:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0E835@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 22:35:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14279940 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 22:35:08 -0400 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9I2Z7328468 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 22:35:07 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 19:35:07 PDT Message-ID: <20031018023507.76919.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 19:35:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Rude Yankees To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F90A554.791648E2@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Terry Wild wrote: > > > Although I've slipped a bit this year, I have > required the children > > to write thank-you notes for gifts. > > That is a very good thing. I definitely notice > whose children do and > don't write thank-you notes. My nephew has never in > his life written > one. His mother probably hasn't either -- nor his > father in adulthood, > though he was taught to do it in childhood. My mother saved for me a thank you note I sent my grandmother just after I had learned to write - or rather, print. I still can't write. My parents were sticklers about that. (And, of course, they were Yankees.) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 21:44:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9I2ic6q022544 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:44:39 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4C0B91E600E7; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:43:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E9051E600DD for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:43:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0E853@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 22:36:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14279968 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 22:36:15 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9I2aF328528 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 22:36:15 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.160.205]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031018023610.MFTL1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 22:36:10 -0400 Message-ID: <3F90A71C.F88097CC@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:36:12 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Rude Yankees References: <20031018014615.67105.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > But, otoh, I have serious problems with the sucky > Southern habit of dropping in on folks completely > announced - plus, the other side of the coin - > indicating one will arrive for a predetermined > appointment, and then showing up hours late, or not at > all. Not only rude, irresponsible. :-] Are those Southern habits? I think of dropping in unnannounced as having to do with how well you know somebody -- like it's something people who know each other very well and know each other's habits might do but not something one routinely does. I hadn't thought of that as regional. I know that sometimes when visiting Judith and Paul in Rhode Island we have walked over and knocked on Anne-the-FOWL's door unannounced -- also on some of their other friends, like Elva and her many fish and birds and cats. And I've never noticed a regional connection re being late or no-showing. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 21:58:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9I2wc6q022647 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:58:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DD5D31E601F0; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:57:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF1861E601EE for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:57:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001AE4E6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 22:50:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14280088 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 22:50:15 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9I2eF328749 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 22:40:15 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9I2dsI7011139 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 22:39:55 -0400 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 22:40:13 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: my democratic/Democratic thermostat In-Reply-To: <3F90A5CA.39457A27@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <20031018012136.11433.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> <3F90A5CA.39457A27@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >And this is fall break at UT. I know that because the son of some Yes - thanks be! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 17 23:46:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9I4k26q023734 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 23:46:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4C48B1E60042; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 23:44:29 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173DD1E6003F for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 23:44:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A0ED57@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 0:37:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14290545 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 00:37:38 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9I4bc307050 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 00:37:38 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001AE92D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 0:37:37 -0400 Message-Id: <200310180437.h9I4bc307050@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 00:37:38 -0400 From: Anne Toal Subject: Scary news To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hi, folks, I haven't posted here much lately, but something happened to me today that I just had to let you know. Short version is that I had a CAT scan today which showed something wrong with one of my kidneys, and Monday I'm going back to have another study done with contrast dye. Not wanting to get over-dramatic, but the point of the study will be to see if cancer can be ruled in or ruled out. Naturally you can assume that I am plenty scared about all this, and your support will be greatly appreciated. -aht From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 18 06:51:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9IBpL6q027825 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 06:51:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 88A831E6027B; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 06:49:45 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 577391E60274 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 06:49:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0F17D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 7:42:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14300252 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 07:42:54 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9IBWs301706 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 07:32:54 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9IBWYI7027791 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 07:32:34 -0400 Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 07:32:54 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Scary news In-Reply-To: <200310180437.h9I4bc307050@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: References: <200310180437.h9I4bc307050@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 18 Oct 2003, Anne Toal wrote: >be ruled in or ruled out. Naturally you can assume that I am plenty scared >about all this, and your support will be greatly appreciated. You've got it! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 18 07:07:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9IC7a6q027944 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 07:07:36 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5E8A31E60273; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 07:06:00 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C7C71E60127 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 07:06:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0F1C3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 7:59:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14300884 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 07:59:09 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9IBx8303233 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 07:59:09 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.165.70]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031018115903.WVQK1828.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 07:59:03 -0400 Message-ID: <3F912B08.3B0E1FD6@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 06:59:04 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Scary news References: <200310180437.h9I4bc307050@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Anne Toal wrote: > and your support will be greatly appreciated. You most definitely have it -- mega-much!!! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 18 08:04:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ID4d6q028609 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 08:04:41 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E8FDF1E60127; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 08:03:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BABCD1E60007 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 08:03:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0F278@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 8:56:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14302502 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 08:56:11 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.115]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ICuB307158 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 08:56:11 -0400 Received: from computer (client-151-197-197-149.ba-dsg.net[151.197.197.149]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11) with SMTP id <20031018125604111007hoq0e> (Authid: plotkina@worldnet.att.net); Sat, 18 Oct 2003 12:56:05 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01c39576$fde79cc0$95c5c597@computer> From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200310180437.h9I4bc307050@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Subject: Re: Scary news Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 08:54:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Toal" To: Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 12:37 AM Subject: Scary news > Hi, folks, I haven't posted here much lately, but something happened to me > today that I just had to let you know. Short version is that I had a CAT > scan today which showed something wrong with one of my kidneys, and Monday > I'm going back to have another study done with contrast dye. Not wanting to > get over-dramatic, but the point of the study will be to see if cancer can > be ruled in or ruled out. Naturally you can assume that I am plenty scared > about all this, and your support will be greatly appreciated. > > -aht > You have my thoughts and support. The not knowing is pretty hard to deal with and the knowing can be harder too. You will crush this or any other challenge. alec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 18 08:33:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9IDXN6q028828 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 08:33:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F22251E60127; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 08:31:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C16791E6027B for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 08:31:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A0F2B4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 9:24:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14303198 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 09:24:55 -0400 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9IDOt309157 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 09:24:55 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9IDOs8e019770 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 08:24:54 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3F913EE9.3090801@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 08:23:53 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Scary news References: <200310180437.h9I4bc307050@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Good luck. I went through this last year. Everything turned out benign; hoping the same for you. Anne Toal wrote: > Hi, folks, I haven't posted here much lately, but something happened to me > today that I just had to let you know. Short version is that I had a CAT > scan today which showed something wrong with one of my kidneys, and Monday > I'm going back to have another study done with contrast dye. Not wanting to > get over-dramatic, but the point of the study will be to see if cancer can > be ruled in or ruled out. Naturally you can assume that I am plenty scared > about all this, and your support will be greatly appreciated. > > -aht > > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 18 08:51:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9IDpK6q029029 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 08:51:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C73BA1E60282; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 08:49:43 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9537A1E60284 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 08:49:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001AEE5A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 9:42:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14303714 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 09:42:49 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9IDgm310531 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 09:42:48 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-22.gwi.net [216.195.151.22]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9IDgkGn010839 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 09:42:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031018094133.00b86e70@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 09:43:02 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Scary news In-Reply-To: <200310180437.h9I4bc307050@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Short version is that I had a CAT >scan today which showed something wrong with one of my kidneys, >-aht What were your symptoms that warranted the test? I hope further testing proves it to be a passing thing that resolves on its own. As long as you are here, what else is going on in your life? How is Graham? How are the cats? bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 18 09:10:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9IEAG6q029280 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 09:10:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4452D1E60282; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 09:08:39 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1794B1E6027F for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 09:08:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0F321@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 10:01:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14304352 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 10:01:48 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9IE1l311862 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 10:01:47 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id C06CC2B574; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 07:01:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B52D2B8EF for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 07:01:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 07:01:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Scary news In-Reply-To: <200310180437.h9I4bc307050@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Good luck, Anne, and the odds are with you that the scare will turn to relief. When do you know the results from the Monday test? best best best wishes Ann On Sat, 18 Oct 2003, Anne Toal wrote: > Hi, folks, I haven't posted here much lately, but something happened to me > today that I just had to let you know. Short version is that I had a CAT > scan today which showed something wrong with one of my kidneys, and Monday > I'm going back to have another study done with contrast dye. Not wanting to > get over-dramatic, but the point of the study will be to see if cancer can > be ruled in or ruled out. Naturally you can assume that I am plenty scared > about all this, and your support will be greatly appreciated. > > -aht > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 18 11:09:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9IG9m6q030672 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 11:09:48 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 288821E6028B; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 11:08:10 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA2431E60024 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 11:08:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001AF05C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 12:01:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14308870 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 12:01:19 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9IG1I321606 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 12:01:18 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.165.70]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031018160113.RSWQ1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 12:01:13 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9163CB.6C23F113@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 11:01:15 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Pickering Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Returning to the Charles Pickering issue that was raised here a good while back, I find this assessment by Nat Hentoff in the VV good: http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0343/hentoff.php -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 18 11:23:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9IGNo6q030874 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 11:23:50 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E38C81E60024; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 11:22:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6E841E60018 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 11:22:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A0F540@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 12:15:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14309347 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 12:15:13 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f9.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.9]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9IGFD323112 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 12:15:13 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 09:15:07 -0700 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 16:15:06 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: lewis black Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 12:15:06 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Oct 2003 16:15:07.0444 (UTC) FILETIME=[FF1E3740:01C39592] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Official version: http://www.courier-journal.com/features/columns/ruthless/2003/ruthless20031018.html Words-l exclusive, unedited version: Lewis Black¡¦s cantankerous ¡§Back in Black¡¨ rants on Comedy Central¡¦s ¡§The Daily Show with Jon Stewart¡¨ have earned the label: ¡§America¡¦s foremost commentator on everything.¡¨ Besides being one of America¡¦s most popular stand-up comedians, Black is a graduate of the Yale Drama School, has written more than forty plays, and has appeared as an actor on ¡§The Murphy Brown Show,¡¨ ¡§Mad About You,¡¨ ¡§Homicide: Life on the Street,¡¨ and in the films ¡§Hannah and Her Sisters¡¨ and ¡§Jacob¡¦s Ladder.¡¨ He appears at the Louisville Palace on October 25 with Dave Attell, host of Comedy Central¡¦s ¡§Insomniac.¡¨ When the Interrogator reached him, Black was doing battle with his computer, but after beating it into submission, he agreed to answer a few questions. RI: Who would you rather date, conservative commentator Ann Coulter or Fox News pundit Greta Van Susteren? Lewis Black: I was just on ¡§Hardball¡¨ with Ann Coulter last night. Greta Van Susteren... Well, I¡¦d (-italicize>)prefer(„²italicize) to date Ann Coulter if I could keep her mouth shut. Can we say that? RI: Sure, you can say anything you like. LB: Well, I¡¦d like to do a threesome but only Greta would be allowed to talk. RI: What¡¦s a more important influence on your style of angry commentary, the Old Testament prophets or Andy Rooney¡¦s Sixty Minutes essays? LB: I would go with Old Testament prophet. It puts me in a better class of people. But if I consciously thought that out I¡¦d be psychotic. Nobody I think says, ¡§You know what I wanna be when I grow up? An Old Testament prophet. If I could just be Jeremiah I¡¦d be on easy street. RI: Nick Lowe asked the musical question, ¡§What¡¦s so funny about peace, love, and understanding.¡¨ Can you explain what¡¦s so funny about anger? Everybody¡¦s got it and they don¡¦t know what to do with it. The reason anger¡¦s funny is we try to really be polite the entire day, and¡K you know, it¡¦s not anger that¡¦s funny, it¡¦s the frustration that leads to it. It¡¦s the cathartic release that¡¦s funny. RI: Coming into Louisville, you¡¦ll see signs announcing that Louisville is now the nation¡¦s sixteenth largest city. Does size matter? LB: Not when it comes to a city, that¡¦s for sure. There are really great cities in this country that are small. And there are really big cities, like Dallas, that should just be kind of divided up and they should just start over. I¡¦ve never been to Louisville. RI: In Kentucky, sin is big business. We have horse racing, tobacco, and bourbon, for instance. That makes sin taxes pretty unpopular. f you were going to levy a tax on just one virtue, which one would you choose? LB: Temperance. Life¡¦s too short to be temperate. What are you gonna do, balance all the time? We don¡¦t need somebody saying ¡§calm down.¡¨ RI: We now know why Rush Limbaugh was constantly getting things wrong. In the aftermath of his drug scandal, do you think it would be in the public interest to require all television and radio commentators to undergo random drug testing? LB: It¡¦s just unbelievable. What a prick he was. Yeah, I think we should either require them to undergo them, or we should give them drugs so we know they¡¦re taking them. RI: Have you ever considered using a white tiger in your act? LB: I haven¡¦t considered it, but if the money were right, and he was declawed, and we could make some extra money, certainly. RI: If Arnold Schwarzenegger asked you to serve on his transition team, what advice would you give him? LB: This is it. Enjoy this time, ¡¥cuz this is it. There¡¦s no more, Arnold. This is it. If they reelect you, California becomes an outpatient clinic and loses its statehood. RI: Some of your fans are pushing a campaign to draft you for a presidential run. If you run, which party will you represent, and who will you choose as a running mate? LB: My legitimate answer would be the socialist party. If Schwarzenegger¡¦s a bellwether to what America wants, my running mate would be Yosemite Sam. I actually am a Socialist at heart, and there¡¦s no real party. I just love getting it out in print because nobody ever even sees the word anymore, and they just think it means Communist. It¡¦s unbelievable. RI: Suppose you could change the words of the Pledge of Allegiance by adding or subtracting words, what would you do? LB: After ¡§liberty and justice for all,¡¨ I¡¦d add ¡§so let¡¦s have fun today.¡¨ RI: Suppose you could persuade your fans sign a letter that you had written, and forward it along to the editors of their hometown newswpapers, what would that letter say? LB: A few things. One, I think it¡¦s important to find Dick Cheney and to find out if Dick Cheney is the real Dick Cheney. Two, that we have an absolute accounting for where the 4.2 trillion dollars went. We had a 2.1 million dollar surplus. Now we have a 2.6 million dollar debt. I want a list of the first fifty things we spent the money on, with pictures. And three, an explanation of why when George Bush speaks sometimes his face doesn¡¦t match the words he¡¦s saying. And four, send a buck to me. RI: Does anything irritate you about Kentucky? LB: No, I¡¦ve never spent any time there. The only thing that irritates me is that Actors Theatre of Louisville never did one of my plays. ¡VMarty Rosen _________________________________________________________________ Enjoy MSN 8 patented spam control and more with MSN 8 Dial-up Internet Service. Try it FREE for one month! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 18 14:30:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9IJUX6q000818 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 14:30:33 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 159081E60060; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 14:28:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D97081E6005F for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 14:28:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A0F899@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 15:22:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14318074 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 15:22:02 -0400 Received: from imo-m03.mx.aol.com (imo-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.6]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9IJM2310668 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 15:22:02 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.10.36f2a47b (4116) for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 15:21:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <10.36f2a47b.2cc2eccc@aol.com> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 15:21:48 EDT Subject: Re: Scary news To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/17/2003 10:37:46 PM, toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM writes: >Short version is that I had a CAT >scan today which showed something wrong with one of my kidneys, and Monday >I'm going back to have another study done with contrast dye. -------- My very best wishes for the best possible outcome. You probably don't need to worry as they do these tests routinely all the time. I've had them too over time for a number of different bodyparts and nothing ever needed to be done, so it's mostly routine. Hang in there for the time being, ok? Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 18 14:53:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9IJrV6q001203 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 14:53:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A60231E6005F; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 14:51:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7847E1E6005A for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 14:51:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0F8FC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 15:45:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14318925 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 15:45:01 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9IJj1312827 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 15:45:01 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-22.gwi.net [216.195.151.22]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9IJixAr003623 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 15:45:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031018154446.00b3e6b0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 15:45:16 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Scary news In-Reply-To: <10.36f2a47b.2cc2eccc@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Short version is that I had a CAT > >scan today which showed something wrong with one of my kidneys, and Monday > >I'm going back to have another study done with contrast dye. >-------- >My very best wishes for the best possible outcome. You probably don't need to >worry as they do these tests routinely all the time. >I've had them too over time for a number of different bodyparts and nothing >ever needed to be done, so it's mostly routine. >Hang in there for the time being, ok? >Theo Wow. Someone is doing routine cat scans of your body??!! 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239984 4FBF0030-6C04B7F6-635C54D3-5AED35F7-6DD1A943 104569015 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 18 16:48:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ILm86q002455 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 16:48:08 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2CF4E1E60162; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 16:46:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB631E6015F for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 16:46:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0FB3A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 17:39:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14324220 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 17:39:37 -0400 Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com (imo-r06.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.102]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ILda324544 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 17:39:36 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.188.20727fdf (657) for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 17:39:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <188.20727fdf.2cc30d0d@aol.com> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 17:39:25 EDT Subject: Re: Scary news To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 11 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/18/2003 1:45:11 PM, bonniev@GWI.NET writes: >Wow. Someone is doing routine cat scans of your body??!! Sounds expensive. > You bet it is, but it's difficult to refuse having them, because they'll find numerous reasons to justify them. FYI, I'm still paying for some of them I had recently. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 18 16:51:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ILpR6q002481 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 16:51:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E04001E6015F; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 16:49:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE4D31E60128 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 16:49:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0FB3F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 17:42:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14324287 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 17:42:56 -0400 Received: from imo-m03.mx.aol.com (imo-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.6]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ILgu324793 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 17:42:56 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.60.369861d4 (4230) for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 17:42:47 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <60.369861d4.2cc30dd6@aol.com> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 17:42:46 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Scary news To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/17/2003 11:37:47 PM Central Daylight Time, toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM writes: << Naturally you can assume that I am plenty scared about all this, and your support will be greatly appreciated. >> You know you have my support. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 18 16:51:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ILpv6q002490 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 16:51:57 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 307131E60128; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 16:50:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 037AC1E6009E for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 16:50:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0FB25@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 17:43:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14324293 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 17:43:25 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law9-oe29.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.86]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ILhP324823 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 17:43:25 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 14:43:19 -0700 Received: from 24.173.85.38 by law9-oe29.law9.hotmail.com with DAV; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:43:19 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [24.173.85.38] X-Originating-Email: [toalanne@hotmail.com] From: "Anne Toal" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031018154446.00b3e6b0@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: Re: Scary news Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 16:13:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Oct 2003 21:43:19.0984 (UTC) FILETIME=[D8C95B00:01C395C0] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Please don't turn this thread into another words-l bitchfest. And thanks to everyone for the expressions of support. -aht ----- Original Message ----- From: "bonniev" To: Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 2:45 PM Subject: Re: Scary news > > >Short version is that I had a CAT > > >scan today which showed something wrong with one of my kidneys, and Monday > > >I'm going back to have another study done with contrast dye. > >-------- > >My very best wishes for the best possible outcome. You probably don't need to > >worry as they do these tests routinely all the time. > >I've had them too over time for a number of different bodyparts and nothing > >ever needed to be done, so it's mostly routine. > >Hang in there for the time being, ok? > >Theo > > Wow. Someone is doing routine cat scans of your body??!! Sounds expensive. > > > bonnie > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 18 17:59:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9IMxV6q003462 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 17:59:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6ABC71E60005; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 17:57:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D1ED1E60002 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 17:57:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A0FC28@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 18:50:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14326631 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 18:51:00 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f87.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.87]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9IMox330758 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 18:50:59 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 15:50:54 -0700 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:50:53 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Scary news Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 18:50:53 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Oct 2003 22:50:54.0234 (UTC) FILETIME=[494ECFA0:01C395CA] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Please don't turn this thread into another words-l bitchfest. And thanks to >everyone for the expressions of support. > >-aht Sheesh, what better sign of support could there be???? Anyway, sufficient unto the day.... Try not to get too frazzled at this point. They have to rule things out, but there's a very good chance this is nothing. _________________________________________________________________ Add MSN 8 Internet Software to your current Internet access and enjoy patented spam control and more. Get two months FREE! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/byoa From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 18 18:19:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9INJ46q003746 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 18:19:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C2D491E60006; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 18:17:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75A7E1E60005 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 18:17:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0FCCB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 19:10:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14328120 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 19:10:25 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f52.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9INAO300651 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 19:10:24 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 16:10:19 -0700 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 23:10:18 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: pickering Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 19:10:18 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Oct 2003 23:10:19.0060 (UTC) FILETIME=[FF992740:01C395CC] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It's hard to know what substance Hentoff plans to offer, but it appears he's claiming that the article below furnishes vindication of Pickering. Perhaps I'm obtuse, but it doesn't appear to me that the article does any such thing. Indeed, though the article points out the complexities of the case, given the context of Pickering's earlier career, it appears on balance that the facts tilt toward the Democrats. Pickering does offer some reasons/excuses for his actions in the cross-burning case, but do you find them persuasive? It appears that he went to extraordinary lengths in this case, perhaps even violating the judicial code of ethics. When asked whether he had ever gone to such lengths in the case of a black defendant, he said, "no" but that he had on occasion issued lenient sentences to black defendants. Without reviewing his entire career, it would be difficult to know, of course, but does it seem likely that this former racist has encountered only one egregious case of injustice and overly severe sentencing, and that it just happens to have occurred in a cross-burning case? And apart from whether he's still a racist, his handling of this case raises questions about his very competence. SECTION: Section A; Page 16; Column 1; National Desk LENGTH: 1823 words HEADLINE: A Judge, a Renomination and the Cross-Burning Case That Won't End BYLINE: By NEIL A. LEWIS DATELINE: IMPROVE, Miss. BODY: On a cold January night nearly 10 years ago, the usual crowd of young white men and their girlfriends were hanging out across the road from the Thomas convenience store here as they did most nights, warming themselves with liquor and the heat from a 55-gallon drum burning scrap wood. Someone brought up the subject of Brenda and Earl Polkey, a local interracial couple, and there was general agreement they were not welcome in Improve. Three of the men decided that burning a large wooden cross on the couple's front lawn might encourage them to leave. The men collected two large pieces of wood and a white porcelain jug filled with gasoline at the home of Daniel Swan, according to a transcript of Mr. Swan 's trial, which was presided over by Judge Charles W. Pickering Sr., of Federal District Court in Hattiesburg. Mr. Swan, then 20, and another man nailed together the eight-foot cross, doused it several times from the jug and propped it against a cedar tree at the Polkey house. Mr. Swan let one of the other men use his cigarette lighter to set it ablaze. At the time, the event and ensuing court case attracted no notice outside this community southwest of Hattiesburg and near the Louisiana border. But Judge Pickering's behavior during and after the trial has now become the focal point of another contentious Senate debate about President Bush's judicial choices. In March 2002, the Senate Judiciary Committee voted along strict party lines to reject Judge Pickering's nomination to the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit, in New Orleans, after the Democrats, who were then in the majority, called his record on racial issues troubling. Mr. Bush, arguing that Judge Pickering had been treated unfairly, has renominated him. Senate and White House officials said recently that Judge Pickering would go before the committee in early June to be questioned about his record and the cross-burning case. During the trial and a series of heated sentencing hearings, Judge Pickering denounced the cross burning as a heinous and despicable act. He also referred to it at times as simply a drunken and foolish prank. Judge Pickering also undertook an extraordinary effort to reduce the sentence of Mr. Swan, the only one of the three defendants who did not plead guilty and who was convicted at trial. Much of last year's debate ranged over the morally ambiguous terrain of whether older Southern politicians should be held accountable for the stands they took on racial issues early in their careers. Judge Pickering, who is 66, did several things he now says he regrets, like bolting the Democratic Party in 1964 over demands that Mississippi integrate its delegation to the national convention. But in 1967, he testified against the Ku Klux Klan and has since become involved in several racial reconciliation efforts in his state. Because the cross-burning case occurred more recently and involves Judge Pickering's behavior on the bench, it has become the centerpiece of his confirmation debate. Judge Pickering and his supporters contend that he acted properly, even admirably, in seeing that a young man did not pay an excessive price for an ill-considered act. But Judge Pickering's critics argue that his leniency toward Mr. Swan exposed his insensitivity to the special symbolism of burning a cross -- just as they said praise by Senator Trent Lott of Mississippi last year for Strom Thurmond's segregationist platform during a 1948 presidential run exposed Mr. Lott's true sentiments. A review of the transcripts of the trial and sentencing hearings, interviews with people involved in the case and Justice Department documents portray a more complex story than either side has put forward. In a letter to the Judiciary Committee, Judge Pickering said he had strongly believed it would have been unjust to sentence Mr. Swan to seven and a half years in prison, as prosecutors sought, when the other two people involved -- one a juvenile and the other described in court as feeble-minded -- were sentenced only to several months of home detention. "The evidence established that Swan was an intoxicated young man on the night of the event who had never before indicated racial prejudice," he wrote. "I thought this was the worst case of disparate sentencing that had come before me during my time on the bench." Like many other federal judges, Judge Pickering was exasperated by laws that restricted his discretion on sentencing. But unlike most other judges, he took unusual steps to make the result come out the way he wanted. In this case, Congress had enacted a law that required adding five years to any act of racial intimidation in which fire was used, an effort to discourage cross burning. Prosecutors had recognized that the sentence was harsh. One of them, Jack B. Lacy Jr., told Judge Pickering he "personally agreed with the judge that the sentence is draconian," but he said it was a result of Mr. Swan's having "repeatedly chucked our offer in our teeth." The prosecutors, documents and interviews show, agonized over how to deal with a hostile federal judge. According to a transcript, Bradford Berry, a Justice Department civil rights specialist who was dispatched from Washington to try the case, told Judge Pickering on Nov. 15, 1994, that it would set a bad precedent to depart sharply from the required sentence. Three months later, though, the prosecutors agreed to do just that by dropping some charges. What was so unusual is that they did so after a conviction by a jury and for no apparent legal reason other than to satisfy Judge Pickering. The judge then sentenced Mr. Swan to 27 months, 11 months longer than prosecutors had been willing to offer in a plea bargain. Among other steps Judge Pickering took, he threatened to order a new trial. When prosecutors asked him on what basis he could do so, he replied, "Any basis you want." When federal prosecutors from the same Jackson, Miss., office came before him in other unrelated cases, he hectored them, asking them repeatedly what their office was doing with regard to his request to reduce the sentence in the Swan case. Justice Department officials at the time said Judge Pickering was making it especially difficult for Mr. Lacy, a senior trial lawyer in the office who would have to appear many times before him. In a sealed order, Judge Pickering ordered the prosecutors to take up the Swan case with Attorney General Janet Reno, an unusual demand they did not comply with and one he did not enforce. Judge Pickering also telephoned Frank Hunger, a friend who was then a senior Justice Department official, to complain. His call may have violated the canons of judicial ethics, several legal experts say. Mr. Hunger said he listened but did not take any action on the complaint. Judge Pickering told the Senate committee in January 2002 that the disparity in sentencing was made worse by the fact that the juvenile defendant, Jason Branch, was the real ringleader. Mr. Branch, then 17, admitted shooting a rifle into the Polkeys' window a few months before. Mrs. Polkey was inside with her 3-year-old daughter at the time. Asked if he had ever acted to reduce another sentence as he did in the Swan case, Judge Pickering told the Judiciary Committee he had not. But he noted that he had, on occasion, given lesser sentences than required in the case of black defendants. Representative Charles W. Pickering Jr., Republican of Mississippi and the judge's son, said his father pressed hard in the Swan case because he was convinced that prosecutors misled him into believing that Mr. Swan was the ringleader. He said his father agreed to the lenient plea deal for Mr. Branch before he learned at the trial that Mr. Branch not only fired into the house but vowed to drive the Polkeys from the area and had a history of fighting with blacks at school. "The prosecutors presented Swan as the ringleader but evidence about Branch's pattern of violence and hateful conduct convinced my father that he was the real ringleader," Representative Pickering said. Judge Pickering also argued that the cross burning might have lacked the element of danger that might be needed to impose the long sentence. He noted that the Polkeys had not noticed the burning at the time and only discovered the charred structure the next morning. "Some drunk young men set out doing a dastardly deed that they should not have had in their heart to do, went out and did something they thought was aggravating somebody," Judge Pickering said in 1994. "And it did aggravate them. But it didn't aggravate them that night while they were burning the cross. It was the next morning when they found out what happened while they were watching TV. It didn't create any danger that night." But Brenda Polkey, who is black, testified earlier that it did not matter that the discovery was made the next day; she was so scared, she said, that she took her daughter and moved to live with her family in Georgia. There was also testimony that Earl Polkey, a white man who met Brenda when they were both in the Air Force, was furious. Some of it came from Mr. Swan, who told the court that he went by days later to deliver gravel as part of his county job. He said he intended to tell Mr. Polkey he was involved in the cross burning and to apologize, but decided not to after seeing how angry Mr. Polkey was. Mr. Polkey has since died in an auto accident. Mrs. Polkey wrote last year to Senator Patrick J. Leahy, the Vermont Democrat then chairman of the Judiciary Committee, urging the Senate not to confirm Judge Pickering's appointment. "My faith in the justice system was destroyed when I learned about Judge Pickering's efforts to reduce the sentence of Mr. Swan," she wrote. Mrs. Polkey moved back to the house only this January. "I figured it was time to stop living in fear and come home," she said in a recent interview. Mr. Swan, who lives just a mile away, also hopes to put the past behind him. "Look, we did it, I mean I did it," he said. "But I served my time, and I'm mad that I'm still paying for it." Judge Pickering told prosecutors he thought a long prison term would ruin Mr. Swan's life and noted that he was still sentencing him to more time than the Justice Department had been willing to offer earlier in a plea bargain. Mr. Swan went on to earn his high school diploma in prison, got apprenticeships in two crafts and, by his account, benefited from jail. Mr. Branch has since had several run-ins with the law, but Mr. Swan has never been in trouble since getting out of prison. Sitting alongside his mobile home is the Ford F-150 pickup that was used in the cross burning. A trucking business he started went bust, he said, after his name appeared in news accounts last year during Judge Pickering's first hearing. Mr. Swan now drives for someone else. _________________________________________________________________ Surf and talk on the phone at the same time with broadband Internet access. Get high-speed for as low as $29.95/month (depending on the local service providers in your area). https://broadband.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 18 19:28:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9J0S36q004438 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 19:28:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 044A51E6000F; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 19:26:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA5861E6000E for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 19:26:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A0FDFF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 20:19:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14330848 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 20:19:31 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9J0JV307449 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 20:19:31 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.165.70]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031019001926.WBIO1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 20:19:26 -0400 Message-ID: <3F91D890.48FB8A30@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 19:19:28 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: pickering References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen wrote: > > It's hard to know what substance Hentoff plans to offer, but it appears he's > claiming that the article below furnishes vindication of Pickering. Perhaps > I'm obtuse, but it doesn't appear to me that the article does any such > thing. Indeed, though the article points out the complexities of the case, I thought Hentoff's point was about the discrepancy between what African Americans in Mississippi think about Charles Pickering re racism and what the national press suggests. I don't have handy any references for things I've read in the past year or so written by African Americans in Mississippi re Pickering -- could perhaps ferret them out given time, but I have no time right now. I do know that they think that he's not a racist. The thing about his fighting to reduce the sentence of the cross-burner is about the fact that the instigator of the event had gotten a much lesser sentence, which made it seem unfair for the follower to get a longer sentence. That strikes me as a reasonable assumption about any kind of crime. (And it struck the black community in Mississippi the same way.) The Mississippi legislative black caucus is quite sensitive to anything smacking of racism and leaps upon racism quickly and loudly. So I consider their statements about Pickering significant (not that they're his fan -- neither am I -- but they don't think he's racist). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 18 20:12:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9J1Ch6q004998 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 20:12:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AFB8F1E60014; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 20:11:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D9191E60013 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 20:11:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0FE92@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:04:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14332103 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:04:11 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9J14B310678 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:04:11 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.165.70]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031019010405.OQZR1822.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:04:05 -0400 Message-ID: <3F91E307.AAD0B646@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 20:04:07 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Oh.My. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU My RRSIL is now officially a "federal lobbyist": http://www.balch.com/people/lobbyists.cfm -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 18 20:13:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9J1Dt6q005005 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 20:13:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6F84C1E60013; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 20:12:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40D671E60012 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 20:12:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A0FE87@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:05:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14332112 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:05:23 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9J15M310772 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:05:23 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.165.70]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031019010517.ORGY1822.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:05:17 -0400 Message-ID: <3F91E34F.9A1F392D@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 20:05:19 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: PS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I stumbled upon that site when googling for Haley Barbour, the nasty contender for Gov of Missisippi. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 18 20:40:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9J1eW6q005282 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 20:40:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9933D1E60017; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 20:38:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B9411E60016 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 20:38:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0FEA7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:31:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14332566 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:31:59 -0400 Received: from web20512.mail.yahoo.com (web20512.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9J1Vw312152 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:31:58 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20512.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 18:31:58 PDT Message-ID: <20031019013158.30209.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 18:31:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: pickering To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Marty Rosen wrote: > It's hard to know what substance Hentoff plans to > offer, but it appears he's > claiming that the article below furnishes > vindication of Pickering. Perhaps > I'm obtuse, but it doesn't appear to me that the > article does any such > thing. Indeed, though the article points out the > complexities of the case, > given the context of Pickering's earlier career, it > appears on balance that > the facts tilt toward the Democrats. Pickering does > offer some > reasons/excuses for his actions in the cross-burning > case, but do you find > them persuasive? Very interesting cases, both the original case, and the case for or against confirmation. Here's hoping we get some unbiased reporting as this shakes out. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 18 20:46:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9J1kQ6q005328 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 20:46:26 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 613681E60016; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 20:44:45 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 335801E60013 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 20:44:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0FEB6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:37:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14332725 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:37:53 -0400 Received: from web20513.mail.yahoo.com (web20513.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9J1br312550 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:37:53 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20513.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 18:37:53 PDT Message-ID: <20031019013753.64941.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 18:37:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Oh.My. To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F91E307.AAD0B646@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > My RRSIL is now officially a "federal lobbyist": > > http://www.balch.com/people/lobbyists.cfm Oh, my, indeed! I think the penny finally dropped for me regarding "RRSIL". Makes perfect sense, now. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 18 20:48:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9J1mM6q005357 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 20:48:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2B2B21E60019; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 20:46:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F21B61E60017 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 20:46:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0FEBC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:39:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14332772 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:39:49 -0400 Received: from web20512.mail.yahoo.com (web20512.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9J1dn312622 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:39:49 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20512.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 18:39:49 PDT Message-ID: <20031019013949.31103.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 18:39:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: PS To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F91E34F.9A1F392D@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > I stumbled upon that site when googling for Haley > Barbour, the nasty > contender for Gov of Missisippi. I was telling Chris about the brouhaha during the debate, and it seems to both of us that we know Mr. Barbour's name from many years ago. His father, perhaps? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 18 21:04:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9J24n6q005528 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:04:50 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4F8A71E6001B; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:03:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21B1E1E60017 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:03:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0FEF0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:56:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14333218 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:56:16 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9J1uG313589 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:56:16 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.165.70]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031019015611.ZAZN1789.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:56:11 -0400 Message-ID: <3F91EF3D.833B09CB@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 20:56:13 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Oh.My. References: <20031019013753.64941.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > http://www.balch.com/people/lobbyists.cfm > > Oh, my, indeed! I think the penny finally dropped for > me regarding "RRSIL". Makes perfect sense, now. My use of RRSIL started way back before you were aboard this crazy ship. It makes sense that you wouldn't know what it meant. Rich Republican Sister-in-Law. I found her list of "affiliations" on that website hilarious. They're true, no doubt. I don't mean to suggest that they were lies. But they're still funny. She has no doubt given tons of money to some of the organizations listed. But as for her personal involvement with things like the symphony -- she wouldn't know Hayden from Hegel. She was fired from that Space Center board that's listed, iirc. And I doubt that she's still on the board of my RRN's private school -- Randolph. Etc. etc. It's all very funny to me. And so very much . As I've said before, my RRB&SIL got into politics when they discovered that by supporting certain candidates they got big monetary rewards via behind-the-scene deals. They think I'm lying when I say that people I know who are involved in politics are in it because of what they see as important moral etc. issues. They're not into that kind of stuff. To them, it's all about personal financial gain. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 18 21:08:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9J28h6q005564 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:08:43 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AD07C1E6001B; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:07:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AC211E60019 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:07:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A0FF19@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:00:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14333403 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:00:10 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9J20A313925 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:00:10 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.165.70]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031019020004.ZBXR1789.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:00:04 -0400 Message-ID: <3F91F026.541742FB@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:00:06 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: PS References: <20031019013949.31103.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > I was telling Chris about the brouhaha during the > debate, and it seems to both of us that we know Mr. > Barbour's name from many years ago. His father, perhaps? Probably you know it from his having been national Republican honcho. I've forgotten what the exact title is -- chairman of the Republican National Committee? I don't think his father was known. I think what you're remembering is references to Haley in his national job in the not-terribly-distant past. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 18 21:09:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9J29i6q005568 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:09:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6B0951E6001C; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:08:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B881E6001E for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:08:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001AF9F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:01:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14333471 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:01:10 -0400 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9J21A314095 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:01:10 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 19:01:09 PDT Message-ID: <20031019020109.80896.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 19:01:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Oh.My. To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F91EF3D.833B09CB@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Lynne Weber wrote: > > > > http://www.balch.com/people/lobbyists.cfm > > > > Oh, my, indeed! I think the penny finally dropped > for > > me regarding "RRSIL". Makes perfect sense, now. > > My use of RRSIL started way back before you were > aboard this crazy > ship. It makes sense that you wouldn't know what it > meant. Rich > Republican Sister-in-Law. So help me, for "Rich", I had "redneck". Please don't tell on me. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 18 21:17:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9J2HG6q005699 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:17:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E111A1E60019; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:15:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2BDF1E60017 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:15:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A0FF3B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:08:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14333710 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:08:43 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9J28h314692 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:08:43 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.165.70]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031019020838.ZDXC1789.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:08:38 -0400 Message-ID: <3F91F227.77F0F08E@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:08:39 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Oh.My. References: <20031019020109.80896.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > So help me, for "Rich", I had "redneck". Please don't > tell on me. Those are not mutually exclusive categories, especially when you're talking about the nouveau riche, which is what they are. Defining "redneck" is quite complex, of course, but I would say that in some ways they're rednecky, in spite of their living in the jet-set circles and ordering the most sophisticated wine in their most sophisticated of restaurants and flying the Concorde to Paris to spend a week at the Ritz and owning multi-million-dollar homes in various locales. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 18 21:17:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9J2Hs6q005704 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:17:54 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2232A1E60019; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:16:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E80571E60017 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:16:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0FF2E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:09:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14333722 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:09:21 -0400 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9J29L314721 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:09:21 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9J29K8e003739 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:09:20 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3F91F20E.1020506@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:08:14 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Oh.My. References: <20031019013753.64941.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> <3F91EF3D.833B09CB@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Lynne Weber wrote: > > >>>http://www.balch.com/people/lobbyists.cfm >>> >>Oh, my, indeed! I think the penny finally dropped for >>me regarding "RRSIL". Makes perfect sense, now. >> > > My use of RRSIL started way back before you were aboard this crazy > ship. It makes sense that you wouldn't know what it meant. Rich > Republican Sister-in-Law. > > I found her list of "affiliations" on that website hilarious. They're > true, no doubt. I don't mean to suggest that they were lies. But > they're still funny. She has no doubt given tons of money to some of > the organizations listed. But as for her personal involvement with > things like the symphony -- she wouldn't know Hayden from Hegel. She > was fired from that Space Center board that's listed, iirc. And I doubt > that she's still on the board of my RRN's private school -- Randolph. > Etc. etc. It's all very funny to me. And so very much . As I've > said before, my RRB&SIL got into politics when they discovered that by > supporting certain candidates they got big monetary rewards via > behind-the-scene deals. They think I'm lying when I say that people I > know who are involved in politics are in it because of what they see as > important moral etc. issues. They're not into that kind of stuff. To > them, it's all about personal financial gain. Wait, she has two legal secretaries, but she's not a lawyer? (I'm assuming this from her education being listed as just a B.A.) They must think she's a moron. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 18 21:37:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9J2bp6q005863 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:37:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D338E1E60017; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:36:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A48161E60016 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:36:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A0FF8D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:29:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14334326 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:29:18 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9J2TI315948 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:29:18 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.165.70]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031019022913.XBKR1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:29:13 -0400 Message-ID: <3F91F6FA.48FCE977@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:29:14 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Oh.My. References: <20031019013753.64941.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> <3F91EF3D.833B09CB@maynor.net> <3F91F20E.1020506@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > Wait, she has two legal secretaries, but she's not a lawyer? > (I'm assuming this from her education being listed as just > a B.A.) They must think she's a moron. She is not a lawyer. She was a college drop-out because she married her boyfriend before finishing college at the U or West Virginia and moved with him to Germany, where she got her degree via that U of Maryland program on military bases. She's not a total moron, but she is not all that smart. She would definitely need legal secretaries. Not only is she not all that smart, but she also would not be inclined to work full time -- she spends months at their house in Vail. (She and the Lieutenant divorced, btw. They weren't still married when my RRB met her.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 18 21:43:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9J2h66q005894 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:43:06 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 16FD01E6001B; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:41:25 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC8831E60017 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:41:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A0FF8D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:34:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14334459 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:34:33 -0400 Received: from web20513.mail.yahoo.com (web20513.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9J2YX316405 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:34:33 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20513.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 19:34:32 PDT Message-ID: <20031019023432.75940.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 19:34:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Oh.My. To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F91F6FA.48FCE977@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > (She and the > Lieutenant divorced, btw. They weren't still > married when my RRB met > her.) > And their son is Randolph? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 18 21:48:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9J2mC6q005967 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:48:12 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5C6061E6001B; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:46:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C8211E60019 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:46:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A0FF8B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:39:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14334593 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:39:39 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9J2dc316656 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:39:38 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.165.70]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031019023933.XDSN1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:39:33 -0400 Message-ID: <3F91F967.6333A1C8@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:39:35 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Oh.My. References: <20031019023432.75940.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > (She and the > > Lieutenant divorced, btw. They weren't still > > married when my RRB met > > her.) > > > And their son is Randolph? She and her first husband didn't have any children. She and my RRB have a son named Jeffrey. He went to school at Randolph Academy from grades one through twelve. Then he went to college at Vanderbilt. Now he is doing I'm not sure what other than drinking beer and playing golf. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 18 23:50:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9J4oR6q007270 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 23:50:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AA49C1E60029; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 23:48:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766871E60028 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 23:48:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A10421@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Oct 2003 0:41:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14343881 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 00:41:53 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9J4fq327969 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 00:41:52 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id AE1BD2B900; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:41:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C5E32B8F9 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:41:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:41:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: I find this interesting Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU REALLY interesting, but I'm not sure why. Here's the quote/quotation: " For example, among the Ndebele, the same type of brightly colored and patterned ornamentation is found in clothing and house painting, but not generally on both during the same period. As clothing styles began to conform more to western fashions, the use of color and pattern which had originally been seen in clothing appeared to relocate itself in painted houses .." >From clothing to houses? When was the first time this transfer occurred, and what view of it did the transferrer have? Like, PISSED, well I want to look at this but there's no market in clothing any more so I'll put it on a wall? Here are the designs, I'm going to put them on Anna B of course tomorrow: http://ux1.eiu.edu/~cfrb/paintedhouses.htm COMMA SPLICE ! Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 19 07:16:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9JCGO6q011851 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 07:16:24 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CB7FE1E60050; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 07:14:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D0F51E6004E for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 07:14:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A10793@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Oct 2003 8:07:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14351479 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 08:07:46 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9JC7k326943 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 08:07:46 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.168.139]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031019120741.ZPAZ1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 08:07:41 -0400 Message-ID: <3F927E8F.97B15F8E@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 07:07:43 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I find this interesting References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin wrote: > http://ux1.eiu.edu/~cfrb/paintedhouses.htm I have a t-shirt that reminds me a little bit of this one: http://ux1.eiu.edu/~cfrb/vwph7.jpg Or maybe it's more like this one: http://ux1.eiu.edu/~cfrb/vwph2.jpg I'd like clothes looking like almost all of those pictures. Not the one with the rooster, though, or even the one with the dog: http://ux1.eiu.edu/~cfrb/ndeb1.jpg -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 19 09:33:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9JEXT6q013148 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 09:33:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 16E5B1E60057; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 09:31:43 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBD101E60058 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 09:31:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A108E1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Oct 2003 10:24:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14354787 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 10:24:51 -0400 Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com (web20502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9JEOo305353 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 10:24:50 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 07:24:50 PDT Message-ID: <20031019142450.70017.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 07:24:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: I find this interesting To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Ann Borkin wrote: > REALLY interesting, but I'm not sure why. Probably because it really IS interesting. Am I correct that the first photo shows a house painted on a house? That's interesting, and it's quite striking. The bead work reminds me forcefully of the American southwest. The designs are fetchingly attractive. It seems a shame there is not a stronger tradition of oral history to help with these evolutions. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! 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Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 19 17:52:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9JMqY6q018437 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 17:52:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DFC3A1E6007C; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 17:50:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A76DD1E60079 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 17:50:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A10F59@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Oct 2003 18:43:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14370795 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:43:52 -0400 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9JMhq314548 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:43:52 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_dev1.2.) id c.a1.3f715f09 (18403) for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:43:39 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:43:39 EDT Subject: is the list down... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ... or has everyone else been raptured and i've been left behind? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 19 18:07:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9JN7d6q018607 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:07:39 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3703B1E6007E; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:05:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 084631E6007D for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:05:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A10F8A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Oct 2003 18:58:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14371353 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:58:58 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9JMwv316137 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:58:57 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-215.gwi.net [216.195.152.215]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9JMwsAt035756; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:58:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031019185838.00b1abc0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:58:56 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: is the list down... In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:43 PM 10/19/2003 -0400, Evelyn Duncan wrote: >... or has everyone else been raptured and i've been left behind? yes From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 19 18:26:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9JNQN6q018784 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:26:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ADC911E60081; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:24:33 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FF5C1E6007E for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:24:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A10FB9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Oct 2003 19:17:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14371912 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:17:41 -0400 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9JNHf317409 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:17:41 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1aa.1b64f412 (4539) for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:17:29 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1aa.1b64f412.2cc47588@aol.com> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:17:28 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] is the list down... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/19/2003 5:59:10 PM Central Daylight Time, cwv@GWI.NET writes: << At 06:43 PM 10/19/2003 -0400, Evelyn Duncan wrote: >... or has everyone else been raptured and i've been left behind? yes >> I guess I've been left behind because I watched VH1's salute to South Park. Oh, well, it was worth it. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 19 19:15:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9K0F26q019181 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:15:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7889D1E60084; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:13:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45B391E6007F for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:13:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1104E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Oct 2003 20:06:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14373275 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:06:20 -0400 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9K06J321028 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:06:20 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9K05u7Q002081 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 17:05:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F9326BD.7050300@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:05:17 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: is the list down... References: <1aa.1b64f412.2cc47588@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU South Park is the mark of the devil. I put my bulbs in today -- it was too nice to stay inside and grade essays. I'll regret it this week. I miss Alyce. I need to find out when to divide my peonies. She knows this sort of thing. Yesterday I jumped a small course of cross-rails, and my timing came back, and the little Arab mare I've been riding was wonderful, and the ride felt so perfect. That's the mark of heaven. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 19 20:34:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9K1Yh6q020043 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:34:43 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EE64A1E6008C; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:32:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDA391E6008A for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:32:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001B0BE8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Oct 2003 21:26:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14375713 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:26:00 -0400 Received: from web20513.mail.yahoo.com (web20513.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9K1Q0328967 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:26:00 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20513.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:25:59 PDT Message-ID: <20031020012559.51346.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:25:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: is the list down... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote:... or has everyone else been raptured and i've been left behind? If I've been raptured, nobody's let me know about it yet. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 19 20:36:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9K1aq6q020084 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:36:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9A54F1E6008C; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:35:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA7E1E6008A for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:35:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1113B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Oct 2003 21:28:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14375766 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:28:09 -0400 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9K1S9329104 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:28:09 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:28:08 PDT Message-ID: <20031020012808.11152.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:28:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: is the list down... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1aa.1b64f412.2cc47588@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I guess I've been left behind because I watched > VH1's salute > to South Park. Oh, well, it was worth it. I guess it's just you and me against the world, with Dr. V. as an innocent bystander. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 19 20:40:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9K1eH6q020109 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:40:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 299571E6008C; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:38:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC94D1E6008A for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:38:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A11147@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Oct 2003 21:31:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14375880 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:31:35 -0400 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9K1VY329442 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:31:34 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:31:34 PDT Message-ID: <20031020013134.76997.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:31:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: is the list down... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F9326BD.7050300@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Rita Chapman wrote: > South Park is the mark of the devil. > > I put my bulbs in today -- it was too nice to stay > inside > and grade essays. I'll regret it this week. I miss > Alyce. > I need to find out when to divide my peonies. She > knows > this sort of thing. Peonies from heaven? > > Yesterday I jumped a small course of cross-rails, > and my > timing came back, and the little Arab mare I've been > riding > was wonderful, and the ride felt so perfect. That's > the > mark of heaven. Good for you! It's not often everything comes together like that. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 19 20:45:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9K1jb6q020133 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:45:37 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8595E1E6008C; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:43:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57DFE1E6008B for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:43:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1114A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Oct 2003 21:36:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14376027 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:36:54 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9K1as330020 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:36:54 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.168.139]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031020013648.XCKE1828.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:36:48 -0400 Message-ID: <3F933C32.7591D74D@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:36:50 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: A Successful Shower Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Pictures of the baby shower: http://www.maynor.net/Temp/Shower/ -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 19 20:51:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9K1pY6q020170 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:51:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 147761E6008D; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:49:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 927DB1E6008C for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:49:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1117C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Oct 2003 21:42:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14376270 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:42:51 -0400 Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (imo-r05.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9K1gp330694 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:42:51 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.71.363ff288 (4362) for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:42:41 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <71.363ff288.2cc49791@aol.com> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:42:41 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] is the list down... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/19/2003 8:28:16 PM Central Daylight Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << I guess it's just you and me against the world, with Dr. V. as an innocent bystander. >> We'll have Sweetie with us; I'm not going anywhere without her. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 19 20:54:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9K1sJ6q020209 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:54:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 36F761E6008D; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:52:29 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 052E71E6008C for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:52:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1117D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Oct 2003 21:45:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14376393 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:45:37 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9K1ja330896 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:45:36 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 9328A2B57D; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:45:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84D0B2B8F3 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:45:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:45:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: F** Camp Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Did everybody just google to find what the foo this was, not asking, hoping it would become apparent, and then googling to find out, as I did? Well here's a description for those who are still waiting and haven't googled yet: http://www.oblomovka.com/entries/2003/10/13#1066058820 Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 19 20:56:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9K1uo6q020217 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:56:50 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E8E761E6008C; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:54:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF7F61E6008B for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:54:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1119C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Oct 2003 21:48:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14376607 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:48:07 -0400 Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com (web20502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9K1m7331357 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:48:07 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:48:06 PDT Message-ID: <20031020014806.14994.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:48:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: is the list down... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <71.363ff288.2cc49791@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > We'll have Sweetie with us; I'm not going anywhere > without her. Yes, and mongo. Pawns can be very useful and resourceful. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 19 21:01:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9K21h6q020281 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:01:43 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A55FC1E6008E; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:59:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7356B1E6008B for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:59:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001B0C2A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Oct 2003 21:53:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14377001 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:53:00 -0400 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9K1r0332416 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:53:00 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-60-119.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.60.119]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9K1qx8e016611 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:52:59 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3F933FB9.9070406@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:51:53 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Successful Shower References: <3F933C32.7591D74D@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hmm, I don't see any copies of Good Night Moon, Pat the Bunny, or Miss Spider's Tea Party. I expect better from English faculty, doncha know ;). Natalie Maynor wrote: > Pictures of the baby shower: > > http://www.maynor.net/Temp/Shower/ > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 19 21:04:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9K2496q020337 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:04:09 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E6A831E60090; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:02:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B900F1E6008F for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:02:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A111DA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Oct 2003 21:55:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14377147 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:55:26 -0400 Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (imo-r05.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9K1tQ300413 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:55:26 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.15b.26714782 (4004) for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:55:11 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <15b.26714782.2cc49a7f@aol.com> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:55:11 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] is the list down... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/19/2003 8:48:17 PM Central Daylight Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << Yes, and mongo. Pawns can be very useful and resourceful. >> Sometimes it seems to the pawn that it is just a tool and not meant to know the plan. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 19 21:05:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9K25q6q020345 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:05:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BA22A1E6008E; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:04:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8994C1E6008B for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:04:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A111CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Oct 2003 21:57:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14377265 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:57:09 -0400 Received: from web20511.mail.yahoo.com (web20511.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.150]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9K1v9300732 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:57:09 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20511.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:57:08 PDT Message-ID: <20031020015708.4907.qmail@web20511.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:57:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: A Successful Shower To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F933FB9.9070406@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > Pictures of the baby shower: > > > > http://www.maynor.net/Temp/Shower/ > > > > -- > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > > > Good pictures. Where's Spencer? Was there ever a time in the South when wedding or baby showers were secret, surprise parties? They were, at one time, in PA. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 19 21:07:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9K27c6q020349 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:07:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A366D1E6008F; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:05:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71F9E1E6008B for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:05:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A111DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Oct 2003 21:58:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14377302 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:58:55 -0400 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9K1wt300887 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:58:55 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:58:54 PDT Message-ID: <20031020015854.83353.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:58:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: is the list down... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <15b.26714782.2cc49a7f@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > Sometimes it seems to the pawn that it is just a > tool and > not meant to know the plan. In that case, most of us are pawns. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 19 21:09:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9K29e6q020380 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:09:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 055081E60090; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:07:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC5F91E6008F for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:07:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A111FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Oct 2003 22:00:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14377477 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:00:58 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9K20v301144 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:00:57 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ABPLz-0003ww-PQ for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:01:04 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031019185358.02358ec0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:01:29 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: F** Camp In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin writes, >http://www.oblomovka.com/entries/2003/10/13#1066058820 Very much more a description of Andrew Orlowski, I daresay. :) The funny thing is when Americans read him and take him seriously. (Which is not to say he's not serious, just that he writes in British sensationalist style, while Americans are used to reading blander stuff.) It was cool that I got to bring Ethan along. He fit right in. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 19 21:19:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9K2Jq6q020468 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:19:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 436D41E6008F; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:18:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 114951E6008B for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:18:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001B0CA9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Oct 2003 22:11:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14378197 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:11:09 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9K2B8303125 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:11:08 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.168.139]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031020021103.XNKK1828.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:11:03 -0400 Message-ID: <3F934439.9414FCA0@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:11:05 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Successful Shower References: <3F933C32.7591D74D@maynor.net> <3F933FB9.9070406@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > > Hmm, I don't see any copies of Good Night Moon, Pat the > Bunny, or Miss Spider's Tea Party. I expect better from > English faculty, doncha know ;). I know there were books, although I don't remember their titles. I was lurking near the edges of the group. Somebody else was acting as recorder. I remember that books were among the gifts because I remember the recipients saying in response to one of the first gifts they opened that it was especially appreciated since the only piece of furniture in the baby's room so far is a bookcase. Then later, when they opened another book, somebody with experience said, "You are going to get sooo sick of reading that book." (I don't remember what the book was.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 19 21:24:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9K2O46q020543 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:24:05 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1F3D61E60094; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:22:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E527F1E60093 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:22:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1123E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Oct 2003 22:15:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14378299 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:15:22 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9K2FL303377 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:15:21 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.168.139]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031020021516.XOXI1828.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:15:16 -0400 Message-ID: <3F934536.5FF7E56F@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:15:18 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Successful Shower References: <20031020015708.4907.qmail@web20511.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Good pictures. Where's Spencer? Poor baby. He was sooooo abused. I locked him out because I didn't want him messing with the pile of gifts on the coffee table or with the food in the dining room when we were all in the den for the unwrapping. Because the weather was so totally perfect for open windows, I went on and left them open -- no a/c -- just the ceiling fan. So Spencer stood there on the decklet peering in at us, whining, and looking pitiful. A few people went outside and visited with him. Many went to the window and spoke. And at the very end, when only a few people were left and we'd pretty well bagged up the gifts, I let him in and fed him since it was his dinner hour by then. > Was there ever a time in the South when wedding or > baby showers were secret, surprise parties? They > were, at one time, in PA. That rings no bells with me. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 19 21:55:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9K2tu6q020878 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:55:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4BB441E60094; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:54:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A5C11E60093 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:54:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A112A7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Oct 2003 22:47:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14379459 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:47:06 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law9-oe24.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.81]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9K2l5306296 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:47:05 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:47:00 -0700 Received: from 24.173.85.38 by law9-oe24.law9.hotmail.com with DAV; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 02:46:59 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [24.173.85.38] X-Originating-Email: [toalanne@hotmail.com] From: "Anne Toal" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: nomail for a while Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:47:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Oct 2003 02:47:00.0057 (UTC) FILETIME=[6F359C90:01C396B4] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h9K2tu6q020878 I'm going nomail for a while because I think we're going to be pretty busy for a few days. I'll ask Graham to post a news update as soon as there's news to post. Thanks again for all your kind messages-- -aht From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 19 21:58:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9K2wM6q020911 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:58:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 50C181E60093; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:56:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 228221E60092 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:56:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A112BD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Oct 2003 22:49:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14379673 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:49:38 -0400 Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9K2nc306727 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:49:38 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.3d.366f5ed6 (4340) for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:49:29 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <3d.366f5ed6.2cc4a739@aol.com> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:49:29 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] nomail for a while To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/19/2003 9:47:28 PM Central Daylight Time, toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM writes: << I'm going nomail for a while because I think we're going to be pretty busy for a few days. >> Please remember that we all are with you. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 19 22:01:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9K3106q020947 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:01:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CAAE91E60093; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:59:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C28A1E60092 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:59:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A112EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Oct 2003 22:52:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14379863 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:52:17 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9K2qH307026 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:52:17 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 7DD332B8FC; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:52:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 031742B592 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:52:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:52:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: Rashmi! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What's your take on this FAQ: http://www.kamat.com/kalranga/women/faq.htm Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 19 22:38:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9K3cG6q021340 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:38:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A04531E60098; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:36:25 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FE851E60096 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:36:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A115AD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Oct 2003 23:29:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14385796 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 23:29:33 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9K3TW312486 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 23:29:32 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-175.inebraska.com [206.222.202.175]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9K3TT7H008002 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:29:30 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001f01c396ba$433472a0$afcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031020012559.51346.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: is the list down... Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:28:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Evelyn Duncan wrote:... or has > everyone else been raptured and i've been left behind? > > If I've been raptured, nobody's let me know about it yet. > One seldom knows. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 19 22:45:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9K3jt6q021378 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:45:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 68D441E60099; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:44:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3499F1E60098 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:44:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A115DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Oct 2003 23:37:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14386257 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 23:37:05 -0400 Received: from web20513.mail.yahoo.com (web20513.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9K3b5313281 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 23:37:05 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20513.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:37:04 PDT Message-ID: <20031020033704.83493.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:37:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: is the list down... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <001f01c396ba$433472a0$afcadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > > If I've been raptured, nobody's let me know about > it yet. > > > > > One seldom knows. Well, will I ever know? Or just rock along in ignorance is bliss mode? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 19 22:58:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9K3w56q021447 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:58:05 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 468811E6009A; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:56:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 148FD1E60099 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:56:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A11624@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Oct 2003 23:49:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14386742 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 23:49:22 -0400 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.131.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9K3nG314041 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 23:49:20 -0400 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ABR2h-0004Zd-KG for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 23:49:17 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031019204838.059238f0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:49:38 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: is the list down... In-Reply-To: <20031020012559.51346.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber writes, >If I've been raptured, nobody's let me know about it yet. Alyce sent this to the list last year: >Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 12:09:04 -0500 >From: alyce cresap >Subject: the rapture > >Be prepared! > > >http://www.raptureletters.com/ > >After the rapture, there will be a lot of speculation as to why millions >of people have just disappeared. Unfortunately, after the rapture, only >non believers will be left to come up with answers. You probably have >family and friends that you have witnessed to and they just won't >listen. After the rapture they probably will, but who will tell them? > >We have written a computer program to do just that. It will send an >Electronic Message (e-mail) to whomever you want after the rapture has >taken place, and you and I have been taken to heaven. > >If you wish to do something now that will help your unbelieving friends >and family after the rapture, you need to add those persons email >address to our database. Their names will be stored indefinitely and a >letter will be sent out to each of them on the first Friday after the >rapture. Then they will receive another letter every friday after that. > >alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 19 23:00:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9K40Y6q021467 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 23:00:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2526D1E60099; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:58:43 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E80F61E60098 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:58:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A11636@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Oct 2003 23:51:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14386900 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 23:51:50 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9K3po314208 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 23:51:50 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id D3F3E2B592; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:51:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBB7A2B56F for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:51:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:51:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: interview Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I am gathering questions to ask Marty in an interview via e-mail - in fact via WORDS-L. Please send questions you like to hear Marty answer to me privately at aborkin@rahul.net. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 19 23:23:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9K4NA6q021751 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 23:23:10 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7F6851E6009C; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 23:21:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 520C11E6009B for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 23:21:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001B10FC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 0:14:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14388051 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:14:20 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9K40j314976 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:00:45 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-175.inebraska.com [206.222.202.175]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9K40g7H006297 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 23:00:44 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <006d01c396be$9fc5d140$afcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031020033704.83493.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: is the list down... Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:59:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > --- Doris Markland wrote: > > > If I've been raptured, nobody's let me know about > > it yet. > > > > > > > > > One seldom knows. > > Well, will I ever know? Or just rock along in > ignorance is bliss mode? If you are raptured, are you dead or do you go in an alive state? If dead, the above applies. Lots of dead people don't know they are dead. That's why they are merely a ghost of their former self. (but they don't know it). - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 19 23:25:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9K4PM6q021767 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 23:25:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2BD271E6009E; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 23:23:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2A2D1E6009B for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 23:23:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001B11B1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 0:16:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14388358 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:14:27 -0400 Received: from web20506.mail.yahoo.com (web20506.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9K43m315398 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:03:48 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:03:47 PDT Message-ID: <20031020040347.19474.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:03:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: is the list down... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031019204838.059238f0@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Peter Kaminski wrote: > > Alyce sent this to the list last year: > > >Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 12:09:04 -0500 > >From: alyce cresap > >Subject: the rapture > > > >Be prepared! Oh, I see. After the disappearance of millions, I will await a letter, and I will doubtless know if I have been raptured. For the moment, I feel fairly mundane. Thanks! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 00:46:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9K5ko6q022453 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:46:50 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 68BCD1E600A7; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:44:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39BC61E6009B for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:44:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A11983@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 1:38:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14393872 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:38:06 -0400 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9K5c5322571 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:38:06 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.66.37c1f1bf (4539) for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:37:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <66.37c1f1bf.2cc4ceb2@aol.com> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:37:54 EDT Subject: Re: nomail for a while To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/19/2003 8:47:15 PM, toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM writes: >I'm going nomail for a while because I think we're going to be pretty busy >for a few days. I'll ask Graham to post a news update as soon as there's >news to post. > > Please don't forget us! It'll be good to hear what's happening with you, so keep us informed. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 01:00:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9K6016q022555 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:00:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C4E5C1E600A7; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:58:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 975D71E6009B for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:58:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A11996@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 1:51:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14394252 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:51:16 -0400 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9K5pG323296 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:51:16 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.10f.276944e9 (4539) for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:51:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <10f.276944e9.2cc4d1cc@aol.com> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:51:08 EDT Subject: Re: Rashmi! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/19/2003 8:52:22 PM, aborkin@RAHUL.NET writes: >What's your take on this FAQ: > >http://www.kamat.com/kalranga/women/faq.htm > >Ann > It doesn't really surprise me, because that's what's been going on for years. I think it's difficult for us to understand it, and I certainly wouldn't want to live like that, but it never happened, so it's of no concern.I had a nice talk with my dau tonight, and it would have shocked everyone there about what we covered ;-} Thinking back, it would have shocked my own mother! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 02:18:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9K7I26q023332 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 02:18:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 617281E600AB; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 02:16:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E17E1E600AA for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 02:16:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A11B43@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 3:09:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14397834 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 03:09:17 -0400 Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9K79G329734 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 03:09:16 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.11b.29783eda (3890) for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 03:09:02 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <11b.29783eda.2cc4e40e@aol.com> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 03:09:02 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] is the list down... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/19/2003 11:16:43 PM Central Daylight Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << Oh, I see. After the disappearance of millions, I will await a letter, and I will doubtless know if I have been raptured. >> No, they'll be the raptured ones; you'll be one of the ones left behind. There's a series of novels by Tim LaHaye and somebody else about the ones left behind. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 02:57:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9K7v86q023578 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 02:57:08 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9AB1D1E600AE; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 02:55:15 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 634991E600B2 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 02:55:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A11BA6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 3:48:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14398812 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 03:48:23 -0400 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9K7mM300369; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 03:48:22 -0400 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:49:54 +0200 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id VHJCFVJL; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:49:52 +0200 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031020094521.034bf048@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:48:17 +0200 Subject: Brrrrrrr! In-Reply-To: <200310171612.h9HGCBvJ027430@ra.msstate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The last week had temperatures just above freezing here in Oslo (although some cold places had frost). But this morning we have -3 C, and one of the seasonal sounds I heard from the street while I was eating breakfast was the whining sound of a car's start engine going round and round. Our car started fine but I will check the water level in the battery and do some other winter-preparation actions on the car this week. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 04:31:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9K9VK6q024555 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 04:31:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9EDFD1E600B4; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 04:29:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C0E01E600B3 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 04:29:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A11D4E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 5:22:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14402370 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 05:22:34 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9K9MX307339 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 05:22:33 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h9K9MSDU003874 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 11:22:28 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h9K9MRg7003872 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 11:22:27 +0200 Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 11:22:27 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brrrrrrr! Message-ID: <20031020092227.GA3859@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200310171612.h9HGCBvJ027430@ra.msstate.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031020094521.034bf048@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031020094521.034bf048@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen Ore: = The last week had temperatures just above freezing here in Oslo (although some cold places had frost). But this morning we have -3 C, and one of the seasonal sounds I heard from the street while I was eating breakfast was the whining sound of a car's start engine going round and round. Our car started fine but I will check the water level in the battery and do some other winter-preparation actions on the car this week. = = Espen That's a sound I know from my childhood very well. You don't often hear it here in .nl because there are very few old cars on the road here and it just doesn't get below freezing in Amsterdam all that often. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 08:14:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9KDET6q026718 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:14:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6A85F1E600CA; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:12:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 397441E600C8 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:12:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1211E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 9:05:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14410433 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:05:40 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f70.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9KD5e312980 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:05:40 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 06:05:34 -0700 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 13:05:33 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: is the list down... Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:05:33 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Oct 2003 13:05:34.0679 (UTC) FILETIME=[D93F7E70:01C3970A] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Evelyn Duncan >> >No, they'll be the raptured ones; you'll be one of the ones >left behind. There's a series of novels by Tim LaHaye and >somebody else about the ones left behind. If you get raptured, can I have your stuff? _________________________________________________________________ Want to check if your PC is virus-infected? Get a FREE computer virus scan online from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 08:18:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9KDIh6q026765 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:18:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EE39E1E600CA; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:16:48 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C06B61E600C8 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:16:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A12123@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 9:09:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14410604 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:09:56 -0400 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.99]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9KD9u313354 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:09:56 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_dev1.2.) id c.116.2a1f1066 (25508) for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:09:47 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <116.2a1f1066.2cc5389b@aol.com> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:09:47 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] is the list down... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/20/2003 8:05:47 AM Central Daylight Time, meeberphobia@HOTMAIL.COM writes: << >From: Evelyn Duncan >> >No, they'll be the raptured ones; you'll be one of the ones >left behind. There's a series of novels by Tim LaHaye and >somebody else about the ones left behind. If you get raptured, can I have your stuff? >> I doubt if I'll be raptured. Too many Wicca books. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 08:23:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9KDNZ6q026824 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:23:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C77EF1E600C9; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:21:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95B951E600C8 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:21:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1214D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 9:14:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14410910 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:14:48 -0400 Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9KDEm314026 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:14:48 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HN200B5O4SEAH@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:14:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.80] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:11:01 -0400 Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:11:01 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: A Successful Shower To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Was there ever a time in the South when wedding or > > baby showers were secret, surprise parties? They > > were, at one time, in PA. > > That rings no bells with me. They often still are surprises in PA, although it seems less and less often. Maybe more common with younger brides and mothers-to-be who live close to home. The logistics of surprising someone who lives out of town or who is very busy is just too much. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 08:50:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9KDoJ6q027214 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:50:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1521B1E600CA; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:48:24 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB1151E600C8 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:48:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1222E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 9:41:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14412894 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:41:31 -0400 Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9KDfV318479 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:41:31 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HN2009466160N@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:41:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.80] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:37:53 -0400 Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:37:53 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Scary news To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Anne, Sending best wishes. Stay strong. This will pass. (can't help it -- no pun intended) Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: Anne Toal Date: Saturday, October 18, 2003 0:37 am Subject: Scary news > Hi, folks, I haven't posted here much lately, but something > happened to me > today that I just had to let you know. Short version is that I had > a CAT > scan today which showed something wrong with one of my kidneys, > and Monday > I'm going back to have another study done with contrast dye. Not > wanting to > get over-dramatic, but the point of the study will be to see if > cancer can > be ruled in or ruled out. Naturally you can assume that I am > plenty scared > about all this, and your support will be greatly appreciated. > > -aht > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 09:00:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9KE0o6q027328 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:00:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 97E951E600CB; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:58:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64ACC1E600CA for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:58:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A12264@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 9:52:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14413653 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:52:01 -0400 Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9KDq1320306 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:52:01 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HN200BRV6I2KT@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:51:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.80] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:47:57 -0400 Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:47:57 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: a Christmas card for Marie To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <120b9b124e64.124e64120b9b@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU He's very cute. That's a Weimeraner though, not a Vizsla. William Wegman is a Mainer. I have some cute pictures from a walk in the woods the other day. I should scan them. I'm going to drive everyone crazy, but I love this little red dog a whole lot. Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: Natalie Maynor Date: Friday, October 17, 2003 6:05 pm Subject: Re: a Christmas card for Marie > bonniev wrote: > > > > > http://www.artinstituteshop.org/item.asp?catID=6&subcatID=6&productID=1405 > Wonderful! > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 09:32:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9KEWp6q027663 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:32:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 540361E600D0; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:30:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2562C1E600CF for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:30:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1239F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 10:24:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14416337 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 10:24:03 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9KEO3327678 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 10:24:03 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001B1DE7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 10:24:02 -0400 Message-Id: <200310201424.h9KEO3327678@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 10:24:03 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: is the list down... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:03:47 -0700, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Peter Kaminski wrote: > >> >> Alyce sent this to the list last year: >> >> >Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 12:09:04 -0500 >> >From: alyce cresap >> >Subject: the rapture >> > >> >Be prepared! > >Oh, I see. After the disappearance of millions, I >will await a letter, and I will doubtless know if I >have been raptured. For the moment, I feel fairly >mundane. > >Thanks! LOL! Well, you will know by the following Saturday - if no letter arrives, either no one loved you enough to add your name to this very important list, or you have been raptured yourself and so are no longer living on the sinful earth. Unless, of course, the website is down - in which case, all sinners will wrongly conclude they are the elite raised up to a new plane, and this is it! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 09:39:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9KEdk6q027716 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:39:46 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 364C31E600CD; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:37:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06EC11E600CB for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:37:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A123DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 10:30:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14416921 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 10:30:58 -0400 Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9KEUw329122 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 10:30:58 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HN200EB58BMGJ@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 10:30:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Mon, 20 Oct 2003 10:27:21 -0400 Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 10:27:21 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Pup in the woods To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I added some pictures from a walk Laszlo and I took in the woods on Saturday - to the bottom of this collection http://marieascher.fotopic.net/show_collection.php?id=60536. He loves the woods. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 09:42:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9KEgK6q027763 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:42:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A86081E600D0; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:40:24 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79E4B1E600CF for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:40:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A123E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 10:33:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14417256 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 10:33:32 -0400 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9KEXV329772 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 10:33:31 -0400 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 16:35:03 +0200 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id VHJCFYHA; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 16:34:59 +0200 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031020163308.01bc7090@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 16:33:24 +0200 Subject: Re: Pup in the woods In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10:27 20.10.2003 -0400 skrev Marie Ascher: >I added some pictures from a walk Laszlo and I took in the woods on Saturday - to the bottom of this collection http://marieascher.fotopic.net/show_collection.php?id=60536. He loves the woods. Indeed, he does! Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 10:08:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9KF8W6q028046 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 10:08:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D6C381E600CF; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 10:06:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73F181E600CD for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 10:06:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A125B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 10:59:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14419810 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 10:59:43 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law9-f104.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.104]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9KEnh302296 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 10:49:43 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 07:49:37 -0700 Received: from 200.95.67.38 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 14:49:37 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.95.67.38] X-Originating-Email: [bfjeldheim@hotmail.com] From: "B Fjeldheim" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Hola Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 14:49:37 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Oct 2003 14:49:37.0672 (UTC) FILETIME=[625CA080:01C39719] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Oh, dear. Bush's picture was in our Mexcan newspaper today! Wonderful to be here! Betty _________________________________________________________________ Get 10MB of e-mail storage! Sign up for Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 13:08:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9KI8a6q030112 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 13:08:36 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0651D1E600E0; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 13:06:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A58EA1E600DF for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 13:06:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A12D11@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 13:59:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14439888 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 13:59:47 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9KHxkZ17455 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 13:59:46 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001B25E6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 13:59:46 -0400 Message-Id: <200310201759.h9KHxkZ17455@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 13:59:46 -0400 From: Anne Toal Subject: Cautiously optimistic To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hi folks, This morning's CAT scan showed a great more detail than Friday's one and while there is now a sense of guarded optimism, I'm not out of the woods yet. I have another test in an hour which will give more information. Thanks again for your wonderful letters of support. You really held my hand this weekend when I needed you most. -aht From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 16:32:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9KLWS6q032492 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 16:32:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3DCB81E600F5; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 16:30:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B8D21E600F4 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 16:30:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A13486@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:23:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14458235 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:23:37 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f101.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9KLNbZ23414 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:23:37 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 14:23:31 -0700 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:23:31 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Cautiously optimistic Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:23:31 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Oct 2003 21:23:31.0631 (UTC) FILETIME=[694C93F0:01C39750] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Damn those woods, anyway. But thanks for the update. >From: Anne Toal >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Cautiously optimistic >Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 13:59:46 -0400 > >Hi folks, > >This morning's CAT scan showed a great more detail than Friday's one and >while there is now a sense of guarded optimism, I'm not out of the woods >yet. I have another test in an hour which will give more information. >Thanks again for your wonderful letters of support. You really held my hand >this weekend when I needed you most. > >-aht _________________________________________________________________ See when your friends are online with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 17:29:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9KMTI6q000652 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:29:18 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A9D371E600F7; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:27:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7772F1E600F6 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:27:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A136A4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 18:20:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14462999 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 18:20:26 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9KMKQZ32039 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 18:20:26 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.170]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031020222021.OKMO1828.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 18:20:21 -0400 Message-ID: <3F945FA4.C9195B4C@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:20:20 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pup in the woods References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > > I added some pictures from a walk Laszlo and I took in the woods on Saturday - to the bottom of this collection http://marieascher.fotopic.net/show_collection.php?id=60536. He loves the woods. He is downright looking with his front feet on that log. And notice the confidence in his eyes compared with the pictures taken that first day, when he was still unsure of his new life. What a beautiful beast. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 18:30:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9KNUx6q001337 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 18:30:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 610AC1E600FD; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 18:29:00 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 323BA1E600FC for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 18:29:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A13791@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 19:22:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14465585 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 19:22:07 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9KNM7Z06589 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 19:22:07 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.170]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031020232201.KUP1780.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 19:22:01 -0400 Message-ID: <3F946E18.7C6FD3C5@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 18:22:00 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cautiously optimistic References: <200310201759.h9KHxkZ17455@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm sure I'm not alone in feeling in limbo. Abht didn't say how fast the results from this afternoon's test would come. I was hoping immediately. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 20:36:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9L1ao6q002964 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:36:50 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D84C21E60105; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:34:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F1E1E60103 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:34:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A13923@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:27:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14470244 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:27:57 -0400 Received: from web20512.mail.yahoo.com (web20512.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9L1RvZ21467 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:27:57 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20512.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 18:27:56 PDT Message-ID: <20031021012756.75247.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 18:27:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: is the list down... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <11b.29783eda.2cc4e40e@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > No, they'll be the raptured ones; you'll be one of > the ones > left behind. There's a series of novels by Tim > LaHaye and > somebody else about the ones left behind. I've heard of the books; but if I haven't been raptured, why am I not suffering the tortures of hell? Or is simply being left behind punishment enough? It was my impression that there was some consternation at some of the religious touches included at Alyce's memorial service. Was she an adherent of organized religion? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 20:41:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9L1fe6q002991 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:41:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A85451E60102; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:39:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76B911E60100 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:39:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001B31DE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:32:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14470412 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:32:43 -0400 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9L1VuZ21764 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:31:57 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 18:31:56 PDT Message-ID: <20031021013156.28406.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 18:31:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: is the list down... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > If you get raptured, can I have your stuff? No. Whether they like it or not, I'm taking my stuff with me to Rhapsody. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 20:43:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9L1hC6q002995 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:43:12 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E3E771E60103; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:41:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6E5F1E60102 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:41:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1393B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:34:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14470479 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:34:20 -0400 Received: from imo-m03.mx.aol.com (imo-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.6]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9L1YJZ21955 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:34:20 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.65.1b40a615 (4116) for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:34:02 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <65.1b40a615.2cc5e70a@aol.com> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:34:02 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] is the list down... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/20/2003 8:28:05 PM Central Daylight Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << I've heard of the books; but if I haven't been raptured, why am I not suffering the tortures of hell? >> In the books, there are good people, not believers, left on the earth. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 20:43:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9L1hg6q003001 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:43:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 334491E60103; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:41:43 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F405D1E60102 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:41:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A13921@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:34:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14470484 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:34:50 -0400 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9L1YnZ21998 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:34:50 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 18:34:49 PDT Message-ID: <20031021013449.28884.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 18:34:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: A Successful Shower To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > They often still are surprises in PA, although it > seems less and less often. Maybe more common with > younger brides and mothers-to-be who live close to > home. The logistics of surprising someone who lives > out of town or who is very busy is just too much. Thanks for confirming my hazy memory. How was Laszlo's first week? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 20:44:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9L1in6q003012 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:44:49 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9AD6C1E60102; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:42:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 697BF1E60100 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:42:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A13934@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:35:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14470530 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:35:56 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9L1ZuZ22194 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:35:56 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <200310210135510160023ia5e> (Authid: adamh1); Tue, 21 Oct 2003 01:35:51 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: is the list down... Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:35:49 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20031021012756.75247.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > It was my impression that there was some consternation > at some of the religious touches included at Alyce's > memorial service. Was she an adherent of organized religion? Not at all. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 20:51:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9L1pN6q003092 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:51:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 67D6D1E60103; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:49:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 381FC1E60102 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:49:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A13943@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:42:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14470867 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:42:30 -0400 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9L1gUZ23202 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:42:30 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 18:42:29 PDT Message-ID: <20031021014229.88389.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 18:42:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Pup in the woods To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote: > I added some pictures from a walk Laszlo and I took > in the woods on Saturday - to the bottom of this > collection > http://marieascher.fotopic.net/show_collection.php?id=60536. > He loves the woods. Land sakes! He exudes pride, self-confidence and vanity. Has it ever struck you that dogs are innately egocentric? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 20:57:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9L1vJ6q003141 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:57:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B33911E60102; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:55:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83F3E1E60100 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:55:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001B321D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:48:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14471139 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:48:23 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9L1mMZ24115 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:48:22 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.170]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031021014817.MISH1826.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:48:17 -0400 Message-ID: <3F949060.14BFE979@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:48:16 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: is the list down... References: <20031021012756.75247.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > at some of the religious touches included at Alyce's > memorial service. Was she an adherent of organized religion? No, she wasn't. I can't remember what she said about her earlier days -- about what she grew up as. I'm guessing she had early experience with organized religion, as most of us do. I'm reminded now of a local friend, retired engineer in his mid 70s, one of my few Republican friends. He used to be a church pillar but said not long ago that he has quit going to church -- that he has reached the conclusion that organized religion causes much more harm than good. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 21:00:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9L20V6q003150 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:00:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3BBA31E60107; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:58:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 044401E60106 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:58:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A13983@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:51:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14471422 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:51:38 -0400 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9L1pbZ24887 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:51:37 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9L1pD7Q023885 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 18:51:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F9490E6.4080000@swbell.net> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:50:30 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Successful Shower References: <20031021013449.28884.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU My shower for Ana was a surprise shower. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 21:02:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9L22V6q003196 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:02:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1F3431E60106; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:00:32 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4FF51E60105 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:00:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1398A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:53:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14471488 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:53:39 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9L1rdZ25073 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:53:39 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.170]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031021015333.MKXK1826.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:53:33 -0400 Message-ID: <3F94919C.661F297D@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:53:32 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: is the list down... References: <20031021013156.28406.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > > If you get raptured, can I have your stuff? > > No. Whether they like it or not, I'm taking my stuff > with me to Rhapsody. I was talking late this afternoon with some people about to move in across the street -- great conversation -- we have tons and tons of common acquaintances from way back. The adult son, who I don't think is moving in there -- he was just helping with some clean-up they're doing -- said when the subject of deaths and possessions entered our long conversation that he had been really impressed in helping clean out the house of a dead relative a few years ago because everything he picked up had a sticker on the bottom saying who it should go to. I liked that idea. But whether it would work would depend on who is doing the clean-up of your house after you die. People like my RRB&SIL would just toss it all in the garbage. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 21:04:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9L24I6q003233 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:04:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 196B81E60105; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:02:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF8801E60100 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:02:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A13995@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:55:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14471582 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:55:26 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9L1tQZ25257 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:55:26 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.170]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031021015520.MLPI1826.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:55:20 -0400 Message-ID: <3F949207.10143A70@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:55:19 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pup in the woods References: <20031021014229.88389.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > http://marieascher.fotopic.net/show_collection.php?id=60536. > > He loves the woods. > > Land sakes! He exudes pride, self-confidence and > vanity. Has it ever struck you that dogs are innately egocentric? Look at some of those early pictures. He reeks of insecurity in them. The fact that he now exudes pride, self-confidence, and vanity is a reflection of Marie's good mothering. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 21:18:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9L2I66q003416 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:18:06 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6CC351E60107; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:16:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EB891E60106 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:16:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A139D8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:09:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14472208 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:09:13 -0400 Received: from web20512.mail.yahoo.com (web20512.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9L29BZ26624 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:09:11 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20512.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 19:09:10 PDT Message-ID: <20031021020910.86968.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 19:09:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: is the list down... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F949060.14BFE979@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > No, she wasn't. I can't remember what she said > about her earlier days > -- about what she grew up as. I'm guessing she had > early experience > with organized religion, as most of us do. That's the impression I had regarding Alyce. But, at the time, I thought surely her family would have known her wishes and honored them. It was confusing. > > I'm reminded now of a local friend, retired engineer > in his mid 70s, one > of my few Republican friends. He used to be a > church pillar but said > not long ago that he has quit going to church -- > that he has reached the > conclusion that organized religion causes much more > harm than good. And this puts in mind of what you said once about Alyce, Natalie - that folks thought you as liberal as Alyce - that you weren't, but you were glad there were people in the world like Alyce. This is sort of where I'm stuck re: organized religion - I do not wish to participate, but I'm glad there are adherents of spiritual doctrines. They have brought tremendous pain to the world, but there have been times when they's done much good. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 21:20:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9L2Kl6q003448 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:20:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 765FF1E60106; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:18:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 450031E60105 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:18:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A139E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:11:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14472310 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:11:54 -0400 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9L2BsZ26826 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:11:54 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 19:11:53 PDT Message-ID: <20031021021153.38196.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 19:11:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: A Successful Shower To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F9490E6.4080000@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Rita Chapman wrote: > My shower for Ana was a surprise shower. Where did it take place (geographically)? Were you completely surprised? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 21:31:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9L2VO6q003540 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:31:25 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DA35E1E60105; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:29:24 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A773D1E60108 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:29:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A139F6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:22:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14472677 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:22:30 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9L2MUZ28121 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:22:30 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.170]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031021022224.DGVN1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:22:24 -0400 Message-ID: <3F94985F.63A52FA5@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:22:23 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: is the list down... References: <20031021020910.86968.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > And this puts in mind of what you said once about > Alyce, Natalie - that folks thought you as liberal as > Alyce - that you weren't, but you were glad there were > people in the world like Alyce. > > This is sort of where I'm stuck re: organized religion > - I do not wish to participate, but I'm glad there are > adherents of spiritual doctrines. They have brought > tremendous pain to the world, but there have been > times when they's done much good. I'm not sure that I'm glad there are adherents of particular spiritual doctrines. I think it's the that have caused problems in the world. But I am very much for spirituality. This is an interesting topic. I need to turn off the computer now and am going to have limited computer time tomorrow, but I would like to see this topic continue (except that I have had bad experiences with Words-L discussions of religion in the past, so maybe it's ok if it dies -- but I do find it interesting and important -- as in important to me personally). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 22:38:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9L3cn6q004291 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:38:49 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 040721E6010D; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:36:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C59BD1E6010B for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:36:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A13D55@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:29:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14480370 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:29:56 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9L3TuZ08476 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:29:56 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001B3672@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:29:55 -0400 Message-Id: <200310210329.h9L3TuZ08476@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:29:55 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Cautiously optimistic To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 13:59:46 -0400, Anne Toal wrote: >Hi folks, > >This morning's CAT scan showed a great more detail than Friday's one and >while there is now a sense of guarded optimism, I'm not out of the woods >yet. I have another test in an hour which will give more information. >Thanks again for your wonderful letters of support. You really held my hand >this weekend when I needed you most. > >-aht !!!YaY!!! (guarded by exclamation points) clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 22:41:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9L3fe6q004301 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:41:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ECF8C1E6010D; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:39:39 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA7001E6010B for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:39:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A13D45@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:32:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14480462 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:32:47 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9L3WkZ09104 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:32:46 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 4E4322B8DC; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:32:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 426782B8CE for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:32:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:32:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cautiously optimistic In-Reply-To: <200310210329.h9L3TuZ08476@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > !!!YaY!!! > (guarded by exclamation points) > clo I think it's more like ???YaY??? now. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 22:46:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9L3ku6q004363 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:46:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 505D61E6010F; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:44:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E5311E6010D for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:44:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A13D69@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:38:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14480588 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:38:03 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9L3c3Z09524 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:38:03 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001B3690@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:38:02 -0400 Message-Id: <200310210338.h9L3c3Z09524@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:38:03 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: is the list down... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 19:09:10 -0700, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Natalie Maynor wrote: >> No, she wasn't. I can't remember what she said >> about her earlier days >> -- about what she grew up as. I'm guessing she had >> early experience >> with organized religion, as most of us do. > >That's the impression I had regarding Alyce. But, at >the time, I thought surely her family would have known >her wishes and honored them. It was confusing. That's an easy confusion to resolve. If you go back through the archives, you'll see that Alyce's born-again sister hoped that she would repent at the last, and asked her to pray with her over the phone, not long before she died. In deference to the sister, the remembrance services were held in the local church. Sister and the pastor were sympatico. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 22:47:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9L3lx6q004370 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:47:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B22761E60111; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:45:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 845C41E60110 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:45:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001B3696@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:39:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14480641 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:39:05 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9L3d5Z09683 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:39:05 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001B368E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:39:04 -0400 Message-Id: <200310210339.h9L3d5Z09683@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:39:05 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Cautiously optimistic To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:32:45 -0700, Ann Borkin wrote: >> !!!YaY!!! >> (guarded by exclamation points) >> clo > >I think it's more like ???YaY??? now. > >Ann Well, but they're not so fencelike. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 22:48:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9L3mw6q004386 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:48:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 571AF1E60113; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:46:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2894F1E60112 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:46:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A13D67@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:40:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14480677 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:39:54 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9L3dsZ09742 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:39:54 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 10F132B8F1; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:39:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01E212B8ED for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:39:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:39:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I read something that was slamming some celebrity - hey I think maybe it was Britney Spears - for not recognizing that LOLITA was a book, first of all, and then not knowing who wrote it and who Lolita was. I'm thinking, this is not fair. Isn't this (knowing Lolita) like a 70's or 80's thing? who reads Nabokov, anyway, isn't he like Jane Austen now? And why should we expect Britney (WHORE) to read at all? Oh thanks ever so much in advance Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 22:50:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9L3oj6q004410 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:50:45 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F134A1E60110; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:48:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C39FB1E6010F for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:48:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A13D72@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:41:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14480776 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:41:51 -0400 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9L3fpZ09903 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:41:51 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.14.1ad49d15 (30970) for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:41:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <14.1ad49d15.2cc604f5@aol.com> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:41:41 EDT Subject: Re: is the list down... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/20/2003 7:36:12 PM, adamh1@COMCAST.NET writes: >> It was my impression that there was some consternation >> at some of the religious touches included at Alyce's >> memorial service. Was she an adherent of organized religion? > Good grief, no way! We were a lot alike in every way. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 22:54:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9L3sV6q004487 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:54:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 817961E60111; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:52:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 536311E60110 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:52:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A13D6D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:45:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14480879 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:45:37 -0400 Received: from web20511.mail.yahoo.com (web20511.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.150]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9L3jbZ10217 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:45:37 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20511.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:45:36 PDT Message-ID: <20031021034536.14547.qmail@web20511.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:45:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: is the list down... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200310210338.h9L3c3Z09524@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > That's an easy confusion to resolve. If you go back > through the archives, > you'll see that Alyce's born-again sister hoped that > she would repent at > the last, and asked her to pray with her over the > phone, not long before > she died. In deference to the sister, the > remembrance services were held > in the local church. Sister and the pastor were > sympatico. I understand. Thanks. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 22:55:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9L3tP6q004492 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:55:25 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6FE8D1E60111; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:53:24 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 419DD1E60110 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:53:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A13D88@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:46:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14480887 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:46:31 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9L3kVZ10244 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:46:31 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id A4BAE2B8F2; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:46:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99F832B574 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:46:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:46:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: Organized Religion Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This is a good phrase. I wonder who coined it, and when. However, I think if it's not organized, it's not a religion. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 22:57:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9L3v66q004510 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:57:06 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 13E471E60113; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:55:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D81521E60111 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:55:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001B36B2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:48:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14480963 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:48:13 -0400 Received: from web20512.mail.yahoo.com (web20512.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9L3mCZ10352 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:48:12 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20512.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:48:12 PDT Message-ID: <20031021034812.10069.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:48:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Cautiously optimistic To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200310210339.h9L3d5Z09683@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >I think it's more like ???YaY??? now. > > > >Ann > > Well, but they're not so fencelike. > clo Plus, they all face the same direction. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 22:58:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9L3wD6q004522 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:58:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8BA8E1E60112; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:56:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E1531E60111 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:56:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A13D78@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:49:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14480990 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:49:19 -0400 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9L3nJZ10426 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:49:19 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.fb.48619999 (30970) for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:49:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:49:08 EDT Subject: Re: is the list down... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/20/2003 8:22:43 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >(except that I have had bad experiences with Words-L discussions of >religion in the past, so maybe it's ok if it dies -- but I do find it >interesting and important -- as in important to me personally). > Was that in the early days of words-l? Because I do not remember that kind of discussions in the past. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 23:01:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9L4176q004563 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:01:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E3BA11E60113; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:59:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B27421E60111 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:59:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A13DA6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:52:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14481170 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:52:14 -0400 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9L3qDZ10723 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:52:13 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:52:13 PDT Message-ID: <20031021035213.30456.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:52:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: is the list down... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >(except that I have had bad experiences with > Words-L discussions of > >religion in the past, so maybe it's ok if it dies > -- but I do find it > >interesting and important -- as in important to me > personally). > > > Was that in the early days of words-l? Because I do > not remember that kind of > discussions in the past. The chances of bad experiences are about 100%. Let's proceed - tomorrow. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 23:05:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9L45F6q004594 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:05:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 17C3E1E60114; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:03:15 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEB6E1E60113 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:03:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A13D99@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:56:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14481314 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:56:22 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9L3uLZ11079 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:56:21 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-175.inebraska.com [206.222.202.175]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9L3uIqC016076 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:56:19 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000c01c39787$23a4fc20$afcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: question Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:55:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I read something that was slamming some celebrity - hey I think maybe it > was Britney Spears - for not recognizing that LOLITA was a book, first of > all, and then not knowing who wrote it and who Lolita was. > > I'm thinking, this is not fair. Isn't this (knowing Lolita) like a 70's > or 80's thing? who reads Nabokov, anyway, isn't he like Jane Austen now? > And why should we expect Britney (WHORE) to read at all? > > Oh thanks ever so much in advance > > Ann And you can be sure she wouldn't know who James Mason is. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 23:05:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9L45e6q004598 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:05:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AD7A91E60117; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:03:39 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F8C31E60115 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:03:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A13DB8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:56:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14481363 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:56:46 -0400 Received: from imo-m03.mx.aol.com (imo-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.6]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9L3ukZ11125 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:56:46 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.65.1b41bad2 (30970) for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:56:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <65.1b41bad2.2cc60876@aol.com> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:56:38 EDT Subject: Re: Cautiously optimistic To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/20/2003 11:59:57 AM, toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM writes: >his morning's CAT scan showed a great more detail than Friday's one and >while there is now a sense of guarded optimism, I'm not out of the woods >yet. I have another test in an hour which will give more information. >Thanks again for your wonderful letters of support. You really held my >hand > No problem whatsoever. Just wishing we could cure whatever seems wrong. Otoh, it's probably all caution only, and everything turns out 100 percent o.k. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 23:06:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9L46F6q004602 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:06:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 245B61E60115; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:04:15 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EACA01E60114 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:04:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A13DAF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:57:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14481392 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:57:22 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9L3vLZ11181 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:57:21 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-175.inebraska.com [206.222.202.175]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9L3vJqC018263 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:57:20 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001501c39787$47a85860$afcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Organized Religion Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:56:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > This is a good phrase. I wonder who coined it, and when. > > However, I think if it's not organized, it's not a religion. > > Ann I suspect we also have some disorganized religions. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 23:06:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9L46o6q004605 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:06:50 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 77FE41E60115; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:04:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A38F1E60114 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:04:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A13DBB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:57:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14481496 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:57:56 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9L3vuZ11253 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:57:56 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-175.inebraska.com [206.222.202.175]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9L3vrqC019428 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:57:54 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001a01c39787$5c1eb000$afcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031021034812.10069.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: Cautiously optimistic Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:56:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > >I think it's more like ???YaY??? now. > > > > > >Ann > > > > Well, but they're not so fencelike. > > clo > > Plus, they all face the same direction. > > > Some people don't have enough to do. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 20 23:43:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9L4hJ6q005024 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:43:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2D5C01E6011A; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:41:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F39EF1E60119 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:41:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A13EB2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 0:34:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14482624 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 00:33:58 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9L40OZ11570 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 00:00:24 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9L40N8b009437 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 00:00:23 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.105]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9L40MfC010870 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 00:00:22 -0400 Message-ID: <00cb01c39787$da12cc30$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Organized Religion Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 00:00:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU If a belief, a faith, in a deity is shared, it is no longer a belief. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Borkin" To: Sent: Monday, 20 October, 2003 11:46 PM Subject: Organized Religion > This is a good phrase. I wonder who coined it, and when. > > However, I think if it's not organized, it's not a religion. > > Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 02:47:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9L7lJ6q006787 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 02:47:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E54111E60128; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 02:45:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7D0B1E60124 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 02:45:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A14228@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 3:38:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14490280 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 03:38:24 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9L7cOZ01238 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 03:38:24 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h9L7cMDU006100 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 09:38:22 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h9L7cMbo006098 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 09:38:22 +0200 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 09:38:21 +0200 From: steph To: words-l Subject: Natalie! Message-ID: <20031021073821.GA6082@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU My sister and her husband are adopting another baby from China. Last time I talked to her she told me that all the parents before her had gotten their first set of papers, and they were expecting theirs within the next month. That'll be some time between now and November, we hope. So, like last time, she's started a Yahoo! Group, and it's called "Next Stop Natalie". Which I guess means they've decided on a name. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 04:21:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9L9LI6q007621 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 04:21:18 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D2E511E60130; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 04:19:15 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F1E1E6012F for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 04:19:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1431B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 5:12:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14492186 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 05:12:22 -0400 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9L9CMZ06735 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 05:12:22 -0400 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:13:54 +0200 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id VHJCF788; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:13:51 +0200 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031021111123.01b7c010@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:12:01 +0200 Subject: Tiddely pom In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It is now snowing outside my office window. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 05:16:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LAG26q008174 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 05:16:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A58C21E60134; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 05:13:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77CEE1E60130 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 05:13:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A143C9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 6:07:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14493646 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:07:06 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LA76Z10767 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:07:06 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.168.150]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031021100701.FBXX1849.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:07:01 -0400 Message-ID: <3F950544.56EEFF5F@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 05:07:00 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: question References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin wrote: > > I read something that was slamming some celebrity - hey I think maybe it > was Britney Spears - for not recognizing that LOLITA was a book, first of > all, and then not knowing who wrote it and who Lolita was. > > I'm thinking, this is not fair. Isn't this (knowing Lolita) like a 70's > or 80's thing? who reads Nabokov, anyway, isn't he like Jane Austen now? > And why should we expect Britney (WHORE) to read at all? Why '70s/'80s? Seems to me it was more earlier than that. And don't people still read Jane Austen? As for whether movie stars read or are knowledgeable about books or anything else, I don't find the topic especially interesting. I would assume that there are some who are quite literate and others who aren't. I'd find something like a survey more interesting -- a survey of the general US adult population indicating their knowledge of Nabokov, for example. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 05:17:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LAHB6q008193 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 05:17:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 58C141E60135; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 05:15:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B9A71E60130 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 05:15:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A143CE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 6:08:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14493688 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:08:15 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LA8FZ10886 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:08:15 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.168.150]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031021100809.FCBM1849.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:08:09 -0400 Message-ID: <3F950589.E46F3E34@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 05:08:09 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: is the list down... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > >(except that I have had bad experiences with Words-L discussions of > >religion in the past, so maybe it's ok if it dies -- but I do find it > >interesting and important -- as in important to me personally). > > > Was that in the early days of words-l? Because I do not remember that kind of > discussions in the past. No, not early days. Can't remember exactly when. Mid '90s or so? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 05:22:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LAMi6q008238 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 05:22:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F338D1E60135; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 05:20:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C54831E60134 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 05:20:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A143DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 6:13:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14493837 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:13:47 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LADlZ11255 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:13:47 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.168.150]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031021101342.FCSC1849.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:13:42 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9506D5.5ACCCB65@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 05:13:41 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie! References: <20031021073821.GA6082@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > Yahoo! Group, and it's called "Next Stop Natalie". Which I guess > means they've decided on a name. I should host a shower for her! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 05:28:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LASd6q008294 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 05:28:39 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 58B5F1E60135; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 05:26:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B5641E60130 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 05:26:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A14403@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 6:19:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14494081 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:19:43 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f22.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LAJhZ11812 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:19:43 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 03:19:37 -0700 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:19:37 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: is the list down... Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:19:37 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Oct 2003 10:19:37.0454 (UTC) FILETIME=[D4B148E0:01C397BC] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor >No, not early days. Can't remember exactly when. Mid '90s or so? Everything was discussed in 1996. _________________________________________________________________ Fretting that your Hotmail account may expire because you forgot to sign in enough? Get Hotmail Extra Storage today! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 05:29:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LATI6q008300 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 05:29:18 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ECE9E1E60135; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 05:27:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFA711E60130 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 05:27:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A143FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 6:20:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14494117 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:20:21 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LAKLZ11889 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:20:21 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.168.150]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031021102016.FDMX1849.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:20:16 -0400 Message-ID: <3F95085F.3DF11958@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 05:20:15 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: question References: <3F950544.56EEFF5F@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > As for whether movie > stars read or are knowledgeable about books or anything else, I don't > find the topic especially interesting. That sentence is bad. I found the topic(s) you introduced interesting -- the questions you raised -- like who reads Nabokov, when was he , and whether a movie star or a representative of any other targeted group should be expected to be literate. (Like should that policeman my drunk friend was quoting Faulkner to one night when her car was in a ditch have recognized the allusions?) What I meant that I don't find especially interesting is knowing anything about the habits, knowledge, etc. of movie stars in particular. I don't really care who dates whom in Hollywood or what they read or what their political views or favorite foods are. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 05:30:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LAUS6q008315 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 05:30:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 49A561E60136; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 05:28:25 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C90D1E60135 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 05:28:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A14400@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 6:21:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14494164 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:21:32 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LALVZ11981 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:21:32 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.168.150]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031021102126.FDPU1849.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:21:26 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9508A6.A0C0D124@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 05:21:26 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: is the list down... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen wrote: > >No, not early days. Can't remember exactly when. Mid '90s or so? > > Everything was discussed in 1996. Actually, the '96 discussions were mostly repeats of '91. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 05:43:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LAhO6q008446 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 05:43:24 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E53081E60130; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 05:41:20 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B39371E60137 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 05:41:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A14427@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 6:34:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14494529 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:34:27 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LAYRZ12953 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:34:27 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.168.150]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031021103422.FFGJ1849.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:34:22 -0400 Message-ID: <3F950BAD.384B5A44@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 05:34:21 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Coaching Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I never cease to be amazed by how much football coaches make. Football is important (and generates huge amounts of money for the university), and coaching is a difficult job full of headaches and is worthy of high pay. But $775,000 a year at an ordinary university (as in not famous as a football power) in the poorest state in the country? I was thinking about that because of reading this part of a newspaper story about our coach's recent resignation announcement: "His contract, which compensates him in the neighborhood of $775,000 annually, runs through the 2005 season. Settlement terms have not been finalized, Templeton said." from: http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0310/21/wamsu01.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 05:57:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LAv46q008538 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 05:57:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AAD2D1E60138; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 05:55:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CB4E1E60137 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 05:55:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A14456@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 6:48:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14494748 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:48:08 -0400 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LAm8Z14027 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:48:08 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9LAm68e012432 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 05:48:07 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3F950EA7.6010203@swbell.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 05:47:03 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: is the list down... References: <14.1ad49d15.2cc604f5@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > In a message dated 10/20/2003 7:36:12 PM, adamh1@COMCAST.NET writes: > > >>>It was my impression that there was some consternation >>>at some of the religious touches included at Alyce's >>>memorial service. Was she an adherent of organized religion? >>> > Good grief, no way! We were a lot alike in every way. You are nothing like Alyce. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 05:58:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LAwg6q008560 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 05:58:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E4B161E60137; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 05:56:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B74581E60136 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 05:56:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A14459@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 6:49:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14494788 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:49:45 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LAnjZ14231 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:49:45 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.168.150]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031021104940.UMNI1822.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:49:40 -0400 Message-ID: <3F950F43.3A5C461B@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 05:49:39 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Cartoon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU For those of you who might remember or have heard about the bull-castration at MSU to inspire the players before a game against U of Texas (it worked -- we won), this coach who just announced his resignation was the perp of that stunt. That's the necessary background for appreciating this cartoon: http://www.clarionledger.com/news/editorial/ramsey/ -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 07:28:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LCSg6q009454 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:28:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3AF831E6013C; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:26:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C1941E60138 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:26:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A145D0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 8:19:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14498337 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:19:35 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LCJZZ11012 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:19:35 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001B3D91@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 8:19:34 -0400 Message-Id: <200310211219.h9LCJZZ11012@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:19:35 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: question To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:39:53 -0700, Ann Borkin wrote: >I read something that was slamming some celebrity - hey I think maybe it >was Britney Spears - for not recognizing that LOLITA was a book, first of >all, and then not knowing who wrote it and who Lolita was. > >I'm thinking, this is not fair. Isn't this (knowing Lolita) like a 70's >or 80's thing? who reads Nabokov, anyway, isn't he like Jane Austen now? >And why should we expect Britney (WHORE) to read at all? > >Oh thanks ever so much in advance > >Ann I do think that, among the great pieces of Trivia one might pick up along the way, Lolita is a bit of a sideline issue. I'm really troubled by the notion that assigning (WHORE) to anyone dismisses the notion that they might be both intelligent and literate. Not knowing Britney personally, I can't say anything to the point about her personally - nor, I hasten to add, can anyone else on the list unless they know her. This kind of dismissal is premature, however. For years Goldie Hawn and Sallie Fields, for instance, were dissed based on her packaging by agents and scripts. It turns out that both are intelligent and interesting. I'd hate for us to make the same mistakes with all succeeding generations of performers. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 07:31:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LCVP6q009475 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:31:25 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9BD621E6013C; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:29:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A67F1E60138 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:29:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A145D9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 8:22:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14498541 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:22:28 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LCMSZ11612 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:22:28 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001B3DA7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 8:22:27 -0400 Message-Id: <200310211222.h9LCMSZ11612@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:22:27 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Tiddely pom To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:12:01 +0200, Espen Ore wrote: >It is now snowing outside my office window. > >Espen I am strongly tempted to quote Dorothy Parker. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 08:10:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LDAi6q009913 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:10:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 99BC81E6013E; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:08:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BCA61E60138 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:08:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A146F5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 9:01:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14501178 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 09:01:47 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LD1lZ19470 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 09:01:47 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-209.gwi.net [216.195.152.209]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9LD1iAt057436; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 09:01:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031021085436.00b16198@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:57:16 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Coaching In-Reply-To: <3F950BAD.384B5A44@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:34 AM 10/21/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I never cease to be amazed by how much football coaches make. Football >is important (and generates huge amounts of money for the university), >and coaching is a difficult job full of headaches and is worthy of high >pay. But $775,000 a year at an ordinary university (as in not famous as >a football power) in the poorest state in the country? Well, you have to remember what a sterling example of manhood and integrity that he has been... I don't know if anyone around Starkville is saying it, but he is probably jumping just ahead of being canned. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 08:20:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LDKL6q010002 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:20:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 74CEE1E6013E; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:18:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 476971E60138 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:18:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A14757@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 9:11:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14502026 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 09:11:24 -0400 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LDBOZ21396 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 09:11:24 -0400 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4F141E4 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 09:11:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "Words-l" Subject: RE: Subscription probe for WORDS-L - please ignore Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 09:11:24 -0400 Message-ID: <002301c397d4$d407d590$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20031021100019.5922411B@pobox.upenn.edu> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: L-Soft list server at UGA (1.8d) >[mailto:LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] >Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 6:00 AM >To: plotkina@POBOX.UPENN.EDU >Subject: Subscription probe for WORDS-L - please ignore > > >Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:00:01 > >This message is a "probe" for your subscription to the >WORDS-L list. > In honor of Tushar, OH MY ASS! This probing is so much fun. alec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 08:25:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LDP26q010054 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:25:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 28EEE1E6013E; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:22:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF0031E60138 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:22:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A14771@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 9:16:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14502510 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 09:16:05 -0400 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LDG4Z22785 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 09:16:04 -0400 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97CDB1E4 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 09:16:04 -0400 (EDT) From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Cartoon Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 09:16:05 -0400 Message-ID: <002401c397d5$7b76b030$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3F950F43.3A5C461B@maynor.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Natalie Maynor >Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 6:50 AM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Cartoon > > >For those of you who might remember or have heard about the >bull-castration at MSU to inspire the players before a game >against U of >Texas (it worked -- we won), this coach who just announced his >resignation was the perp of that stunt. That's the necessary >background >for appreciating this cartoon: > >http://www.clarionledger.com/news/editorial/ramsey/ > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > Thanks for the cartoon. It made my and my office mates mornings. alec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 08:56:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LDuZ6q010360 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:56:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A80261E60140; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:54:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 713B01E60138 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:54:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A14941@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 9:47:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14506449 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 09:47:31 -0400 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LDlVZ32071 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 09:47:31 -0400 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 15:49:04 +0200 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id VHJCF9S7; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 15:49:01 +0200 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031021154537.01bb31f8@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 15:47:10 +0200 Subject: Re: Tiddely pom In-Reply-To: <200310211222.h9LCMSZ11612@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 08:22 21.10.2003 -0400 skrev Carolyn Ostrander: >On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:12:01 +0200, Espen Ore wrote: > >>It is now snowing outside my office window. >> >>Espen > >I am strongly tempted to quote Dorothy Parker. But there are no men with purple hands outside - although some of the women working here in the library may be horrible and aunts I don't think many of them are rich. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 09:17:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LEHW6q010633 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 09:17:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D4CAE1E60145; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 09:15:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3C721E60144 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 09:15:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A14A60@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:08:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14509182 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:08:34 -0400 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LE8XZ05561 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:08:33 -0400 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9LE8OsV2826386 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 09:08:24 -0500 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 09:08:24 -0500 (CDT) From: nam gal sips clark X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: is the list down... In-Reply-To: <71.363ff288.2cc49791@aol.com> Message-ID: References: <71.363ff288.2cc49791@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.0.4.77969 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 19 Oct 2003, Evelyn Duncan wrote: > We'll have Sweetie with us; I'm not going anywhere > without her. There's a Twilight Zone episode with that theme, 'cepfer it's Rip, and he's a dog. http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/EpisodeGuideSummary/showid-237/season-3 (see ep 84) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 10:03:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LF3E6q011150 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:03:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C279C1E6014A; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:01:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D4ED1E60146 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:01:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001B43D4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:54:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14513010 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:54:16 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LEiGZ16594 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:44:16 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9LEhqmE006988 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:43:52 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:44:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: unsubbing soon Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Did I already say that? I can't remember ... Anyway, I leave for Utah Thurs am, so will unsub soon ... be good - take care of each other. (Thanks for suggestions, Dan Lester.) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 10:26:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LFQP6q011415 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:26:25 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 332BF1E6014B; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:24:20 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA9571E6014A for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:24:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A14D6A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:17:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14517308 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:17:26 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LFHPZ25710 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:17:25 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 366BC2B8F7; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:17:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 259A52B8F4 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:17:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:17:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Organized Religion In-Reply-To: <00cb01c39787$da12cc30$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Alan Wild wrote: > If a belief, a faith, in a deity is shared, it is no longer a belief. > Uh what is it then? Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 10:32:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LFWE6q011451 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:32:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0EA491E6014C; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:30:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCDB71E6014A for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:30:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001B450F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:23:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14517678 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:23:15 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LFNEZ26589 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:23:14 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id DBDAF2B8F4; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:23:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF0F92B8F2 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:23:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:23:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: question In-Reply-To: <3F95085F.3DF11958@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > etc. of movie stars in particular. I don't really care who dates whom > in Hollywood or what they read or what their political views or favorite > foods are. You know it's hard for me to think of ANYONE I want to know the favorite foods of. In fact, I think I want NOT to know the favorite foods of most people. I keep track of how Jane Fonda is looking, because we're about the same age, Jane and I. I like to see her looking good. But actually I have no idea if she reads, or what she reads. And I think I don't give a flying favorite food about that. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 10:34:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LFYj6q011481 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:34:45 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2AB5F1E6014C; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:32:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C55EB1E6014A for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:32:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A14DA1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:25:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14517911 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:25:30 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9LFPEZ26961 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:25:14 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:25:14 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:18:19 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: is the list down... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h9LFYj6q011481 It was a distinctly religious service but the pastor did mention that Alyce didn't like him because of his association with organized religion. BrP >>> adamh1@COMCAST.NET 10/20/03 09:35PM >>> > It was my impression that there was some consternation > at some of the religious touches included at Alyce's > memorial service. Was she an adherent of organized religion? Not at all. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 10:35:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LFZd6q011499 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:35:39 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C44171E6014D; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:33:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 955BD1E6014C for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:33:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001B450A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:26:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14518029 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:26:41 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LFQfZ27242 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:26:41 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 7BB8A2B56F; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:26:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AD6B2B8E8 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:26:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:26:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: question In-Reply-To: <200310211219.h9LCJZZ11012@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > way, Lolita is a bit of a sideline issue. I'm really troubled by the notion > that assigning (WHORE) to anyone dismisses the notion that they might be > both intelligent and literate. Not knowing Britney personally, I can't say > anything to the point about her personally - nor, I hasten to add, can > anyone else on the list unless they know her. Lissen, I was speaking PUBLICLY, not about her PERSONALLY, know what I mean? She is probably a very nice girl, PERSONALLY. I read about her a lot, because about a year ago I subscribed not only to Rolling Stone, but Blender and Q! In the words of the immortal Tushar, Gag Me With A Spoon. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 11:09:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LG976q011804 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:09:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9C1311E6014E; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:07:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DFCE1E6014F for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:07:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A14F3C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:00:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14521895 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:00:09 -0400 Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LG09t02840 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:00:09 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HN400A6Z748R9@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:00:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.76] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:56:32 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:56:32 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Pup in the woods To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <1e59a20b01.20b011e59a@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > http://marieascher.fotopic.net/show_collection.php?id=60536. > > > He loves the woods. > > > > Land sakes! He exudes pride, self-confidence and > > vanity. Has it ever struck you that dogs are innately egocentric? > > Look at some of those early pictures. He reeks of insecurity in them. > The fact that he now exudes pride, self-confidence, and vanity is a > reflection of Marie's good mothering. He's a poser phony. I didn't snap a picture when he was afraid to go over a little trickly stream of water -- whimper whimper. But I made him do it himself -- no coddling here no sir. This is Warrior Training! He needs to learn to be a little more independent -- he has some apparent separation anxiety when alone which makes me feel just awful leaving to go to work. But I ignore his whimpering because that's what I'm told to do. I don't want him to be a whiner. We do have a walker coming in at midday during the week. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 11:11:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LGBq6q011847 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:11:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 63DC61E6014E; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:09:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EBDB1E6014A for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:09:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A14F60@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:02:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14522107 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:02:53 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LG2rt03299 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:02:53 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-37.gwi.net [216.195.151.37]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9LG2oGp014342; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:02:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031021114735.00b31d70@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:47:56 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Organized Religion In-Reply-To: References: <00cb01c39787$da12cc30$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:17 AM 10/21/2003 -0700, Ann Borkin wrote: >On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Alan Wild wrote: > > > If a belief, a faith, in a deity is shared, it is no longer a belief. > > >Uh what is it then? Dogma? cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 11:24:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LGOZ6q011962 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:24:36 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9E1011E60151; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:22:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67B081E60150 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:22:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001B471C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:15:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14522941 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:15:37 -0400 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LGFbt05112 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:15:37 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.2b.49fad842 (4592) for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:13:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <2b.49fad842.2cc6b53f@aol.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:13:51 EDT Subject: Re: question To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/21/2003 4:20:26 AM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: > What I meant that I don't find >especially interesting is knowing anything about the habits, knowledge, >etc. of movie stars in particular. I don't really care who dates whom >in Hollywood or what they read or what their political views or favorite >foods are. -------- Thank the goddess; I thought I was the only one left in this country who doesn't care. That's one reason I hardly watch TV at all, BECAUSE that's what seems to be the only thing that interests the general population. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 11:34:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LGYM6q012062 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:34:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 833DB1E6014F; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:32:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F12B1E6014A for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:32:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A15026@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:25:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14523806 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:25:20 -0400 Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LGPKt06990 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:25:20 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.194.20343969 (4592) for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:22:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <194.20343969.2cc6b740@aol.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:22:24 EDT Subject: Re: is the list down... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/21/2003 4:48:16 AM, rouvalis@SWBELL.NET writes: >You are nothing like Alyce. ----- Says who? You wouldn't know because I knew Alyce years before you all had heard of her. Just because I'm not as outspoken as she was, doesn't mean that I'm different. So don't judge people from what you find out from a bunch of written words if you please. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 11:38:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LGcX6q012094 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:38:33 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 285D71E60150; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:36:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECBEE1E6014F for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:36:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A15040@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:29:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14524079 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:29:34 -0400 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LGTVt07673 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:29:32 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1c5.10031ccb (4592) for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:28:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1c5.10031ccb.2cc6b8b9@aol.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:28:41 EDT Subject: Re: unsubbing soon To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/21/2003 8:54:29 AM, dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes: >Anyway, I leave for Utah Thurs am, so will unsub soon ... be good - take >care of each other. > ------ You too take care and don't forget us. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 11:47:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LGlK6q012186 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:47:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 701F41E6014E; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:45:15 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40A4A1E6014A for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:45:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A150E0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:38:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14525417 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:38:22 -0400 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LGcLt10184 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:38:21 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.47.34920480 (4592) for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:37:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <47.34920480.2cc6bac2@aol.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:37:22 EDT Subject: Re: Tiddely pom To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/21/2003 3:12:43 AM, Espen.Ore@NB.NO writes: >It is now snowing outside my office window. ----- I find that very difficult to picture because it's been around 80F until now. I was shopping in a short sleeve shirt last night after 6PM, and it was colder in the store than outside due to the air-conditioning inside. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 12:05:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LH5I6q012336 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:05:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5AA801E60150; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:03:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EC9F1E6014E for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:03:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1518E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:56:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14525757 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:56:19 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LGkIt11655 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:46:18 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9LGjsmE017986 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:45:55 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:46:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: is the list down... In-Reply-To: <194.20343969.2cc6b740@aol.com> Message-ID: References: <194.20343969.2cc6b740@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Theo Groothof wrote: >different. So don't judge people from what you find out from a bunch of >written words if you please. That's probably good advice. But when "a bunch of written words" is all we have to go on, what we shall we do? oOst appellate decisions in our judicial system are - and have to be - based entirely on "a bunch of written words" (i.e., a court transcript). Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 12:06:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LH6B6q012341 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:06:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 14EF11E60150; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:04:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB4CF1E6014F for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:04:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A15193@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:57:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14525816 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:57:12 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LGl5t11823 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:47:05 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9LGkfmE018217 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:46:42 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:47:05 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: unsubbing soon In-Reply-To: <1c5.10031ccb.2cc6b8b9@aol.com> Message-ID: References: <1c5.10031ccb.2cc6b8b9@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Theo Groothof wrote: >You too take care and don't forget us. Not a chance, Theo! Thanks, Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 12:11:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LHBf6q012417 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:11:41 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1803F1E6014E; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:09:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B09EE1E60150 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:09:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A151AF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:02:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14527683 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:02:42 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LH2ft15673 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:02:42 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 8BF362B689; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:02:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80FF02B56F for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:02:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:02:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: unsubbing soon In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany, why don't you just set to nomail (rather than unsub)? Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 12:24:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LHOt6q012574 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:24:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A57151E60153; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:22:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63E4E1E60152 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:22:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1521A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:15:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14527979 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:15:56 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LH5ut16360 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:05:56 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9LH5XmE024127 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:05:33 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:05:56 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: unsubbing soon In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Ann Borkin wrote: >Bethany, why don't you just set to nomail (rather than unsub)? Actually, that is what I do - I had just had to unsub from two lists (that do not allow nomail) - hence my choice of words. Who knows? I may want to post from SLC. Thanks, Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 12:43:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LHhi6q012873 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:43:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 864391E60157; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:41:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBD881E60155 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:41:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A152F3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:34:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14530927 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:34:44 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LHYit22777 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:34:44 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001B4A4E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:34:43 -0400 Message-Id: <200310211734.h9LHYit22777@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:34:43 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Tiddely pom To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 15:47:10 +0200, Espen Ore wrote: >08:22 21.10.2003 -0400 skrev Carolyn Ostrander: >>On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:12:01 +0200, Espen Ore wrote: >> >>>It is now snowing outside my office window. >>> >>>Espen >> >>I am strongly tempted to quote Dorothy Parker. > >But there are no men with purple hands outside - although some of the women working here in the library may be horrible and aunts I don't think many of them are rich. > >Espen Regarding AA Milne's lilt and humor: 10/20/1928 Pooh Too Hummy On this day in 1928 Dorothy Parker, under her pen name, Constant Reader, reviewed A. A. Milne's The House at Pooh Corner in The New Yorker, with predictable, now-famous, results: ". . . And it is that word 'hummy,' my darlings, that marks the first place in The House at Pooh Corner at which Tonstant Weader fwowed up." http://www.todayinliterature.com/biography/dorothy.parker.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 13:00:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LI016q013075 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:00:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AA4351E60158; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:57:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 468F91E60155 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:57:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A153AE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:51:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14532512 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:51:01 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9LHp1t26393 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:51:01 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:51:01 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:44:21 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: interesting on line journal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h9LI016q013075 Anthropology of Food http://www.aofood.org/default.htm BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 16:13:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LLDD6q015064 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:13:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 045451E60166; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:11:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBDD91E60161 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:11:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A15B2C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:04:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14550015 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:04:12 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LL4B329502 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:04:12 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.131]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031021210407.SPLO1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:04:07 -0400 Message-ID: <3F959F46.1BA8AC4B@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:04:06 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Coaching References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031021085436.00b16198@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > Well, you have to remember what a sterling example of manhood and integrity > that he has been... Actually, he didn't turn out to be nearly the crook people have feared. There was quite a bit of controversy over hiring him off the used-car lot he had retreated to after being ousted from Texas A&M for his crookery. Allegedly there were all kinds of things written into his contract here to minimize crooked actvities -- but they accidentally left out the clause about no bull-castrations in the stadium. > I don't know if anyone around Starkville is saying it, but he is probably > jumping just ahead of being canned. Oh yes -- that is considered a given. Speaking of crooks, one rumor that was floating around was that MSU might hire the coach who was fired by Alabama before the season got started -- the one who was shacked up with a sweet young thing in Florida using U of AL credit cards. But the newspaper stories today all quote the athletic director and the pres on the characteristics required of the next coach, with emphasis on -- I don't think that was the exact word -- something like that. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 16:17:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LLHN6q015098 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:17:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B081A1E60167; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:15:15 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70CD51E60166 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:15:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A15B2C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:08:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14550235 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:08:22 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LL8L330008 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:08:21 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.131]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031021210815.SRXC1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:08:15 -0400 Message-ID: <3F95A03E.1DEDF7F7@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:08:14 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: unsubbing soon References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Anyway, I leave for Utah Thurs am, so will unsub soon ... be good - take > care of each other. > > (Thanks for suggestions, Dan Lester.) And (if this is English-Dept-related travel) thanks for the financial aid, Natalie. >From a letter I got from your dept head today: "And we supplement very meager state travel funds so that our graduate students, our lecturers, and our professorial faculty can attend professional meetings and get important research done at distant collections. These are just a few of the activities that your gift will support." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 16:20:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LLKU6q015124 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:20:30 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9EFD61E60166; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:18:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E0501E60161 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:18:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A15C27@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:11:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14552049 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:09:29 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LL9S330717 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:09:28 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.131]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031021210923.SSPX1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:09:23 -0400 Message-ID: <3F95A082.6B5F8895@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:09:22 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: question References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin wrote: > You know it's hard for me to think of ANYONE I want to know the favorite > foods of. Not even Alan? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 16:22:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LLMP6q015143 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:22:25 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 98D0F1E60166; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:20:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E5931E60161 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:20:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001B533B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:13:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14552374 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:13:25 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LLDO331342 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:13:24 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.131]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031021211319.SVAG1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:13:19 -0400 Message-ID: <3F95A16C.2AE77104@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:13:16 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pup in the woods References: <1e59a20b01.20b011e59a@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: >independent -- he has some apparent separation anxiety when alone which makes me feel just awful leaving to go to work. But I ignore his whimpering because that's what I'm He might not really be anxious after you're not there to witness the whimpering. Dogs are good actors. I am reminded of Bernard's shivering act he would put on before I had a doggy-door. If it got below 75, he would stand at the gate as I left in the morning, shaking and shivering and looking pitiful beyond words, in spite of his warm and cozy doghouse. (We're not talking really cold weather. I would leave him inside on really cold days.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 16:25:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LLPQ6q015161 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:25:26 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3508E1E60167; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:23:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E21CE1E60166 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:23:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001B5351@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:16:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14552560 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:16:25 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LLGP331783 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:16:25 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.131]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031021211618.SWTK1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:16:18 -0400 Message-ID: <3F95A222.7669A7CF@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:16:18 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: unsubbing soon References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Actually, that is what I do - I had just had to unsub from two lists (that > do not allow nomail) - hence my choice of words. Who knows? I may want to > post from SLC. I think Words-L is still send=public, isn't it? Yes, I know it is. I'm not subscribed anymore from maynor@ra.msstate.edu, but that's what I send from if I'm in my office and suddenly think of something I want to report on -- or when I'm traveling. The only difference it makes it that it takes an extra ten minutes for listserv to sniff the posting or something. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 16:27:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LLRC6q015197 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:27:12 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 83AFE1E60167; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:25:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CD071E60166 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:25:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A15C5C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:18:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14552669 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:18:11 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LLIA331997 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:18:10 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 845252B61A; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 14:18:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 784DA2B559 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 14:18:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 14:18:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: question In-Reply-To: <3F95A082.6B5F8895@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > You know it's hard for me to think of ANYONE I want to know the favorite > > foods of. > > Not even Alan? Allan is very catholic in taste. He just likes great food. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 16:31:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LLVR6q015278 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:31:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BD2971E60168; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:29:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 827131E6016A for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:29:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001B5389@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:22:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14552315 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:22:25 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LLCO331211 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:12:24 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9LLC0mE012858 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:12:01 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:12:24 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: unsubbing soon In-Reply-To: <3F95A03E.1DEDF7F7@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3F95A03E.1DEDF7F7@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >And (if this is English-Dept-related travel) thanks for the financial >aid, Natalie. It is not. None of your funds will go to Utah. I am being funded by the University of Utah and the Utah State Bar. (Anyway, I thought you stopped making contributions some time ago.) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 16:38:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LLcX6q015350 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:38:33 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 120691E6016A; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:36:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B70A41E60167 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:36:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A15CAE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:29:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14553415 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:29:32 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LLTT301145 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:29:29 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.131]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031021212923.CVSM1826.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:29:23 -0400 Message-ID: <3F95A533.161C229A@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:29:23 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: question References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin wrote: > > Not even Alan? > > Allan is very catholic in taste. He just likes great food. Oh good. As that was flying away, I realized I had misspelled his name -- and thought you might think I meant Mr. Wild. But you caught on. Wouldn't you like to know Alan Wild's favorite food, though? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 16:41:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LLf26q015389 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:41:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1C79A1E6016A; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:38:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C579F1E60168 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:38:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A15CB8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:32:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14553530 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:32:01 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LLW1301413 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:32:01 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.131]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031021213155.CWXE1826.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:31:55 -0400 Message-ID: <3F95A5C8.C277E095@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:31:52 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: unsubbing soon References: <3F95A03E.1DEDF7F7@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >And (if this is English-Dept-related travel) thanks for the financial > >aid, Natalie. > > It is not. None of your funds will go to Utah. I am being funded by the > University of Utah and the Utah State Bar. Oh good. I don't think my meager contribution would have gotten you very far. > (Anyway, I thought you stopped making contributions some time ago.) Nope. I threatened it, but I don't think I've missed a year in ages now. Some years I think the development-office people might screw it up, though, since some years I get thank-you notes from the English Dept head and some years not. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 16:57:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LLvG6q015546 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:57:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C5F991E6016A; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:55:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 814DC1E60169 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:55:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A15D1B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:48:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14553854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:48:13 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LLc1302057 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:38:01 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9LLbamE020483 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:37:37 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:37:59 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: unsubbing soon In-Reply-To: <3F95A222.7669A7CF@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3F95A222.7669A7CF@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I think Words-L is still send=public, isn't it? Yes, I know it is. I'm What does that mean? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 16:59:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LLx56q015556 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:59:05 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EAEFF1E6016B; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:56:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFD181E6016A for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:56:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A15D37@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:50:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14554414 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:50:04 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LLo4303329 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:50:04 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.131]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031021214954.ZGBL1789.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:49:54 -0400 Message-ID: <3F95AA01.3C5CA775@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:49:53 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: unsubbing soon References: <3F95A222.7669A7CF@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >I think Words-L is still send=public, isn't it? Yes, I know it is. I'm > > What does that mean? That you don't have to be subscribed to post on it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 16:59:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LLxc6q015559 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:59:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C14AC1E6016A; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:57:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F8FC1E60169 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:57:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001B5402@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:50:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14553963 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:50:37 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LLeb302299 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:40:37 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9LLeEmE021198 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:40:14 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:40:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: unsubbing soon In-Reply-To: <3F95A5C8.C277E095@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3F95A03E.1DEDF7F7@maynor.net> <3F95A5C8.C277E095@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> It is not. None of your funds will go to Utah. I am being funded by the >> University of Utah and the Utah State Bar. > >Oh good. I don't think my meager contribution would have gotten you >very far. Interestingly, I was offered but declined an honorarium from the Bar Ass'n. I will get a tiny one from the Univ. They are jointly paying my expenses. >> (Anyway, I thought you stopped making contributions some time ago.) > >Nope. I threatened it, but I don't think I've missed a year in ages >now. Some years I think the development-office people might screw it >up, though, since some years I get thank-you notes from the English Dept >head and some years not. Thank you for your contributions. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 17:16:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LMGB6q015762 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:16:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DAE961E6016E; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:14:03 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A70151E6016C for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:14:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A15DCF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:07:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14555230 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:07:10 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LLv8304591 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:57:08 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9LLujmE025762 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:56:45 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:57:08 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: unsubbing soon In-Reply-To: <3F95AA01.3C5CA775@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3F95A222.7669A7CF@maynor.net> <3F95AA01.3C5CA775@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> >I think Words-L is still send=public, isn't it? Yes, I know it is. I'm >> >> What does that mean? > >That you don't have to be subscribed to post on it. Thanks! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 17:45:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LMjq6q016003 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:45:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E71A91E60172; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:43:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF0D91E60171 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:43:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A15E6A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:36:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14557457 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:36:51 -0400 Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LMap309016 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:36:51 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.75.1b5308b6 (3932) for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:36:38 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <75.1b5308b6.2cc70ef6@aol.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:36:38 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] is the list down... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/21/2003 9:08:48 AM Central Daylight Time, rjscheid@NADAL.LOYNO.EDU writes: << There's a Twilight Zone episode with that theme, 'cepfer it's Rip, and he's a dog. >> It's an old story: there's this old man and his dog; they are travelling down a road and stop at this place called "Heaven." It's a beautiful place, but the guy at the gate won't let the dog in, so the old man decides to travel on. They stop, after awhile, at this old country gate, and the old man asks for a drink of water for him and his dog. The guy at the gate says "Sure! C'mon in!" The old man asks if his dog can come in, and the guy says "Sure!" The old man asks "What is this place?" "Heaven," the guy replies. "I thought that was Heaven back there." The guy says, "Nope, that's Hell. They trick people, but they can't trick dogs, so they don't let the dogs come in." Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 18:09:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LN9B6q016349 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:09:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 667651E60170; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:07:03 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36D3E1E6016E for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:07:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A15EF0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:00:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14558737 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:00:09 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LN09312010 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:00:09 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.131]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031021230004.HIEZ1822.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:00:04 -0400 Message-ID: <3F95BA73.D43D827E@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:00:03 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Cats Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I am going to be feeding two cats for the next week, cats I didn't meet until a few minutes ago. One of them sat at a distance and stared at me -- he's the outdoor cat, and I've already forgotten his name. The other one, Ugly (his name), is indoor/outdoor and ran under the house when I walked toward him. Not a good start. But I've now got the housekey, know where the food is, and know where their food and water bowls are. My duty will start tomorrow afternoon since their owner will feed them before leaving town tomorrow morning. After that I will go twice a day. He'll be home late Tuesday night. It's weird that this man has lived across the street (catty-cornered across the street) from me for over two years now, but I didn't meet him until yesterday afternoon when he strolled over and joined a conversation I was having with another neighbor. He was in need of cat care for an upcoming trip. I told him that cats always look askance at me since they sense that I know little of cats but that I could do it if he got desperate -- that I have fed cats before. He called a little while ago and said he was indeed desperate. (Either he's very good at catching names, or he called the other neighbor and asked my name in order to get my phone number.) He seems much less weird in conversations than I had thought he might be. He's supposedly something of a recluse who has lived all of his in that house, except for the years he was in med school in Jackson. He moved in with his parents upon his return to Starkville and worked until last year as some kind of public health doctor -- having decided he didn't have the physical stamina to open his own practice. (I read that in a retirement story about him several months ago. He was a sickly child.) His mother died several years ago and his father just last year. A cousin has been staying with him lately. Anyway, he seems nice. If I have cat-care questions, I'm counting on y'all to help. He told me that Ugly, the indoor/outdoor cat, might decide to come in and stay the whole week and that that was ok. He said that the kitty-litter is in the back bathroom and for me to ignore it -- to not even go back there -- that it would be a real mess. So I guess I'll take him at his word and leave it alone. (And Ugly might stay outside and under the house the whole time anyway.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 18:21:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LNLw6q016488 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:21:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7A4971E60173; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:19:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48BB01E60171 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:19:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A15F5E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:12:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14559584 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:12:56 -0400 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LNCu313888 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:12:56 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.179.20f8831a (4222) for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:12:35 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <179.20f8831a.2cc71763@aol.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:12:35 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Cats To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Oh, believe me, you don't want to let the litter box go a week without cleaning it! Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 18:32:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LNW76q016623 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:32:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 602101E60177; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:29:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DB2E1E60176 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:29:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A15FA8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:23:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14560192 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:23:05 -0400 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LNN5315428 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:23:05 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9LNN48e024417 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:23:04 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3F95BF97.4000500@swbell.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:21:59 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: is the list down... References: <194.20343969.2cc6b740@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > In a message dated 10/21/2003 4:48:16 AM, rouvalis@SWBELL.NET writes: > > >>You are nothing like Alyce. >> > ----- > Says who? You wouldn't know because I knew Alyce years before you all had > heard of her. Just because I'm not as outspoken as she was, doesn't mean that I'm > different. So don't judge people from what you find out from a bunch of > written words if you please. Says me. DUH. The length of time you knew Alyce has nothing to do with how much like her you are, although one would have hoped a little more of her could have rubbed off on you. I judge you on your own words. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 18:32:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LNWg6q016629 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:32:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 05C1B1E60175; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:30:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC61C1E60174 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:30:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A15F9D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:23:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14560203 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:23:40 -0400 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LNNe315493 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:23:40 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9LNNd8e024975 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:23:39 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3F95BFBB.4020308@swbell.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:22:35 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Successful Shower References: <20031021021153.38196.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Rita Chapman wrote: > >>My shower for Ana was a surprise shower. >> > > Where did it take place (geographically)? Were you > completely surprised? One was in MA and the other in OH. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 18:43:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LNhq6q016761 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:43:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8C5E21E60174; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:41:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E6CB1E60171 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:41:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001B568A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:34:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14560545 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:34:41 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f21.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LNYf316449 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:34:41 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:34:35 -0700 Received: from 149.160.22.98 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:34:35 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.22.98] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: interesting on line journal Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:34:35 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Oct 2003 23:34:35.0576 (UTC) FILETIME=[E2FD1B80:01C3982B] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Paul Barfoot >Anthropology of Food >http://www.aofood.org/default.htm Dang. There's something wrong with the page. _________________________________________________________________ Want to check if your PC is virus-infected? Get a FREE computer virus scan online from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 18:50:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LNoJ6q016867 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:50:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0137A1E60174; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:48:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C73611E60173 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:48:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A15FD9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:41:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14560821 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:41:17 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LNfH317073 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:41:17 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-175.inebraska.com [206.222.202.175]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9LNf9th024797 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:41:15 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <003401c3982c$befc61e0$afcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Problems Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:39:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h9LNoJ6q016867 Is anyone else having this problem? I don't know if it's Words-l or if it's my local provider. I keep getting all the same mail over and over. Sometimes I get 3 copies of each message in a row. Sometimes I get all the messages and then all the messages and then all the messages. I've had to unsub to stop it. Right now I'm on digest to see if that stops it. Anyone else? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 18:50:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LNoK6q016870 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:50:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3339D1E60174; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:48:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 041351E60173 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:48:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A15FCB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:41:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14560825 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:41:18 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f76.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.76]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LNfI317077 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:41:18 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:41:12 -0700 Received: from 149.160.22.98 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:41:12 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.22.98] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Cats Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:41:12 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Oct 2003 23:41:12.0832 (UTC) FILETIME=[CFC59000:01C3982C] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Uh huh. A quiet sort of guy, sickly as a child, a loner who generally keeps to himself, chats you up after two years in the neighborhood, immediately finds your number, and then invites you to feed his cats while he's away. Then he tells you, "There's a room in the back that you should stay away from. Don't even go back there," he says. I think I saw this movie at the drive-in. Anyway, regarding cat care, the important thing is to remember that they start with nine lives. Did you ask him how many they have left? Could be, you have nothing to worry about. >From: Natalie Maynor >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Cats >Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:00:03 -0500 > >I am going to be feeding two cats for the next week, cats I didn't meet >until a few minutes ago. One of them sat at a distance and stared at me >-- he's the outdoor cat, and I've already forgotten his name. The other >one, Ugly (his name), is indoor/outdoor and ran under the house when I >walked toward him. Not a good start. But I've now got the housekey, >know where the food is, and know where their food and water bowls are. >My duty will start tomorrow afternoon since their owner will feed them >before leaving town tomorrow morning. After that I will go twice a >day. He'll be home late Tuesday night. > >It's weird that this man has lived across the street (catty-cornered >across the street) from me for over two years now, but I didn't meet him >until yesterday afternoon when he strolled over and joined a >conversation I was having with another neighbor. He was in need of cat >care for an upcoming trip. I told him that cats always look askance at >me since they sense that I know little of cats but that I could do it if >he got desperate -- that I have fed cats before. He called a little >while ago and said he was indeed desperate. (Either he's very good at >catching names, or he called the other neighbor and asked my name in >order to get my phone number.) > >He seems much less weird in conversations than I had thought he might >be. He's supposedly something of a recluse who has lived all of his in >that house, except for the years he was in med school in Jackson. He >moved in with his parents upon his return to Starkville and worked until >last year as some kind of public health doctor -- having decided he >didn't have the physical stamina to open his own practice. (I read that >in a retirement story about him several months ago. He was a sickly >child.) His mother died several years ago and his father just last >year. A cousin has been staying with him lately. Anyway, he seems >nice. > >If I have cat-care questions, I'm counting on y'all to help. He told me >that Ugly, the indoor/outdoor cat, might decide to come in and stay the >whole week and that that was ok. He said that the kitty-litter is in >the back bathroom and for me to ignore it -- to not even go back there >-- that it would be a real mess. So I guess I'll take him at his word >and leave it alone. (And Ugly might stay outside and under the house >the whole time anyway.) >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) _________________________________________________________________ Enjoy MSN 8 patented spam control and more with MSN 8 Dial-up Internet Service. Try it FREE for one month! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 18:53:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LNr56q016884 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:53:05 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EA12C1E60174; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:50:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B83381E60173 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:50:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A15FD5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:44:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14560930 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:44:03 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LNi3317304 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:44:03 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.131]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031021234357.MVME1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:43:57 -0400 Message-ID: <3F95C4BD.F493D168@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:43:57 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cats References: <179.20f8831a.2cc71763@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > > Oh, believe me, you don't want to let the litter box go > a week without cleaning it! I am counting on you to be on stand-by to tell me what to do if the time comes -- which it might not since Ugly might choose not to go inside at all. It just occurred to me that I forgot to ask this person what he was doing about heating/cooling. This is a tricky time of year re such matters. Today is like summer, but by the time he returns next week, it may be like winter. If I were leaving town right now, I'd probably go the route of leaving nothing on (as in heating/cooling) since there's no way it would get cold enough at this time of year for pipes to freeze and since I'd just risk letting things get hot -- because I wouldn't have an animal in the house. I'm wondering now about Ugly and the full situation. Like I guess he meant that if he (or she -- I can't remember) followed me in at feeding time and didn't seem in the mood to go out, that I should just lock him/her up inside the house. I think I didn't concentrate well enough on these matters. The cats and dogs I've fed in the past have always been ones living in houses that I knew the routines of pretty well. This is a new adventure. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 18:53:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LNrP6q016889 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:53:25 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CE4EF1E60174; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:51:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FB6C1E60173 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:51:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A15FD7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:44:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14560951 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:44:23 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f19.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.19]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LNiN317330 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:44:23 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:44:17 -0700 Received: from 149.160.22.98 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:44:16 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.22.98] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Problems Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:44:16 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Oct 2003 23:44:17.0555 (UTC) FILETIME=[3DE00E30:01C3982D] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I don't think this is a technical problem with words-l. I think it's just that everybody on the list keeps saying the same things over and over again. I know for a fact that it's been going on since 1996, but it may have started in 1991. Do you think it's nosocomial? >From: Doris Markland >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Problems >Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:39:51 -0500 > >Is anyone else having this problem? >I don't know if it's Words-l or if it's my local provider. > >I keep getting all the same mail over and over. >Sometimes I get 3 copies of each message >in a row. > >Sometimes I get all the messages and then all the messages and then all the >messages. > >I've had to unsub to stop it. Right now I'm on digest to see if that stops >it. > >Anyone else? > > - D. M. _________________________________________________________________ Want to check if your PC is virus-infected? Get a FREE computer virus scan online from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 18:54:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LNsA6q016894 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:54:10 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6FAE71E60174; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:52:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41C6F1E60173 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:52:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A15FDA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:45:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14560987 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:45:08 -0400 Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LNj8317418 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:45:08 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.16b.254b28ce (16335) for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:44:24 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <16b.254b28ce.2cc71ed7@aol.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:44:23 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Problems To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/21/2003 6:41:22 PM Central Daylight Time, dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM writes: << Is anyone else having this problem? I don't know if it's Words-l or if it's my local provider. >> It's not words-l; maybe a node is trying to send the message, but it gets blocked, so it tries to send it a couple more times, but you get all three messages. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 18:54:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LNsQ6q016898 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:54:26 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3133A1E60174; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:52:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 033F41E60173 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:52:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A15FE9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:45:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14560991 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:45:24 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LNjO317427 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:45:24 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.131]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031021234519.MVYG1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:45:19 -0400 Message-ID: <3F95C50E.D5319C4D@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:45:18 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Problems References: <003401c3982c$befc61e0$afcadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > Is anyone else having this problem? > I don't know if it's Words-l or if it's my local provider. I'm guessing the latter since I haven't noticed it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 18:58:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9LNwn6q016935 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:58:49 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CC7791E60176; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:56:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ACD41E60174 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:56:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A15FE4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:49:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14561110 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:49:47 -0400 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LNnl317694 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:49:47 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_dev1.2.) id c.1d2.12f181e7 (16335) for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:47:31 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1d2.12f181e7.2cc71f92@aol.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:47:30 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Problems To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Now, I'm getting repeated messages! This list is bewitched! Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 19:01:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9M0146q016967 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:01:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 739C41E60176; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:58:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4516C1E60174 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:58:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A16007@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:52:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14561203 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:52:02 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LNq2317921 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:52:02 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.131]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031021235157.MYDZ1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:51:57 -0400 Message-ID: <3F95C69C.FBAE0311@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:51:56 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cats References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen wrote: > > Uh huh. A quiet sort of guy, sickly as a child, a loner who generally keeps > to himself, chats you up after two years in the neighborhood, immediately > finds your number, and then invites you to feed his cats while he's away. > Then he tells you, "There's a room in the back that you should stay away > from. Don't even go back there," he says. > > I think I saw this movie at the drive-in. Ooh, goody. There may be a good short story in this if I live to tell it. > Anyway, regarding cat care, the important thing is to remember that they > start with nine lives. Did you ask him how many they have left? Could be, > you have nothing to worry about. He did mention that one of them (the outdoor one) was "very old." Then he added something like, "Actually, they're both old." But I stupidly failed to ask exactly what that meant re which life there were on -- number eight? number nine? And all of this is reminding me that I need to find out why the white dog wasn't present on campus today. I'm wondering whether somebody finally managed to capture him and what that might mean -- as in the shelter or a cushy life in a good home or stuck in a dorm room or what. I saw the wheelchair humming along just before 8:00 this morning on the sidewalk it's normally humming along on but without the white dog running in circles around it. When I mentioned it to the students in my 8:00 class, one of them said that maybe he was over at the Sanderson (the gym complex) since that was his other usual hangout. But I had thought that he was always between Lee and Swalm in the mornings, then near the cafeteria at noon (for obvious reasons), then was over running at the Sanderson in the afternoons. Something is amiss. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 19:02:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9M02I6q016983 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:02:18 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D2B571E60173; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:00:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A021A1E60174 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:00:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A16008@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:53:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14561220 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:53:16 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LNrB317983 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:53:16 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.131]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031021235306.MYNW1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:53:06 -0400 Message-ID: <3F95C6E1.5099AF82@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:53:05 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Problems References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen wrote: > I don't think this is a technical problem with words-l. I think it's just > that everybody on the list keeps saying the same things over and over again. > I know for a fact that it's been going on since 1996, but it may have > started in 1991. Do you think it's nosocomial? Definitely '91. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 19:03:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9M03B6q016996 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:03:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DA6F31E60175; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:01:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC9181E60174 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:01:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1600E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:54:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14561261 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:54:09 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LNs9318055 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:54:09 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.131]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031021235403.MYXA1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:54:03 -0400 Message-ID: <3F95C71A.5115BB04@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:54:02 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Problems References: <16b.254b28ce.2cc71ed7@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > It's not words-l; maybe a node is trying to send the message, > but it gets blocked, so it tries to send it a couple more times, > but you get all three messages. I didn't think the net used nodes these days. I miss the old bitnet nodes in a way. It was fun to track the progress of e-mail through the various nodes. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 19:05:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9M0516q017014 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:05:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0E0631E60175; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:02:53 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D01AF1E60174 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:02:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A16000@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:55:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14561373 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:55:59 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f30.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9LNtx318229 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:55:59 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:55:53 -0700 Received: from 149.160.22.98 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:55:52 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.22.98] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Cats Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:55:52 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Oct 2003 23:55:53.0623 (UTC) FILETIME=[DCC39A70:01C3982E] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor >And all of this is reminding me that I need to find out why the white >dog wasn't present on campus today. I'm wondering whether somebody > >Something is amiss. Uh huh, and I guess you think it's just a coincidence that the "white dog" has gone missing on the very day that your reclusive, formerly sickly neighbor, a cat person by the way, who never said much and kept to himself, has decided to leave town? Now, I'm sure I saw this movie. It might even have been set in a stark ville in Mississippi. _________________________________________________________________ Want to check if your PC is virus-infected? Get a FREE computer virus scan online from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 19:09:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9M09n6q017034 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:09:49 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B39461E60176; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:07:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 275D51E60175 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:07:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001B5708@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:00:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14561743 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:00:38 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f107.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.107]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9M00b319027 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:00:37 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:00:32 -0700 Received: from 149.160.22.98 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:00:31 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.22.98] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Pickering Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:00:31 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Oct 2003 00:00:32.0084 (UTC) FILETIME=[82BD6140:01C3982F] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Here's the Firestone article to which Hentoff referred. It focuses on the support Pickering has received in his hometown, but the article doesn't seem to support the notion that he has widespread support among black leaders across the state. >Print Request: Selected Document(s): 66 > >Time of Request: October 21, 2003 07:51 PM EDT >Number of Lines: 112 >Job Number: 1842:0:18416738 >Client ID/Project Name: > >Research Information: > > >Note: > > > > 66 of 78 DOCUMENTS > > Copyright 2002 The New York Times Company > The New York Times > > February 17, 2002, Sunday, Late Edition - Final > >SECTION: Section 1; Page 22; Column 1; National Desk > >LENGTH: 1545 words > >HEADLINE: Blacks at Home Support a Judge Liberals Assail > >BYLINE: By DAVID FIRESTONE > >DATELINE: LAUREL, Miss., Feb. 15 > >BODY: > > Back in Washington, his opponents have depicted Judge Charles W. >Pickering as >the personification of white Mississippi's oppressive past, a man so >hostile to >civil rights and black progress that he is unfit for promotion to a federal >appeals court. > > But here on the streets of his small and largely black hometown, far >from the >bitterness of partisan agendas and position papers, Charles Pickering is a >widely admired figure of a very different present. > > In funeral parlors and pharmacies, used-car lots and the City Council >chambers, the city's black establishment overwhelmingly supports his >nomination >to the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit, which is >heading >toward a contentious vote in the Senate in the first major judicial battle >of >the Bush administration. > > Though few black residents here subscribe to Judge Pickering's staunchly >Republican politics, many say they admire his efforts at racial >reconciliation, >which they describe as highly unusual for a white Republican in the state. > > "I have never seen Trent Lott open his arms to the black community the >way >Charles Pickering has," said Larry E. Thomas, owner of Thomas Pharmacy, >referring to the Senate minority leader, who is Judge Pickering's friend >and >patron. "Over the years I've seen him work with black leaders and really >try to >make an effort to understand and help the community. That's a >progressiveness >that we need to see more of in this state." > > Progressive is not exactly the description used by the national black >officials who are making an intense effort to prevent the judge's >appointment. >"A vote for Pickering is a vote against civil rights," said Julian Bond, >the >national chairman of the N.A.A.C.P. Representative Robert C. Scott, >Democrat of >Virginia, speaking against the nomination with other members of the >Congressional Black Caucus, said, "It's hard to imagine a person who is >more >hostile to civil rights." Judge Pickering has also been condemned by a >variety >of big-city newspaper editorial boards and columnists. > > But such comments carry little weight among those who actually know the >man >personally here in Laurel, in southeast Mississippi. Judge Pickering, now a >federal district judge in the nearby city of Hattiesburg, was praised by >black >city officials for helping to set up after-school youth programs here, and >for >directing federal money to medical clinics in low-income areas when he was >a >state senator. Black business leaders say he was influential in persuading >white-owned banks to lend money to black entrepreneurs, helping to >strengthen >the city's black middle class. > > "I can't believe the man they're describing in Washington is the same >one I >'ve known for years," said Thaddeus Edmonson, a former local president of >the >N.A.A.C.P. who is now president of the seven-member Laurel City Council and >one >of its five black members. "If those people who are voting against him >because >of some press release would just come down here and talk to the people who >know >him, I think they would have a very different opinion." > > The judge's widespread popularity in his hometown has been frustrating >to the >many civil rights and abortion rights groups that have worked to portray >him as >an ideological relic of the Old South. > > Several opponents of his nomination have tried unsuccessfully to get his >supporters to change their minds, and their inability to do so reflects the >distance between national liberal groups and many Southern blacks in small >towns. In a city like Laurel, with a population of 18,393, one's >personality and >faith are often more important than a judicial paper trail or an adherence >to an >agenda. > > People for the American Way, a liberal organization based in Washington, >has >criticized Judge Pickering for disregarding the separation of church and >state >by promoting religious programs from the bench. But many prominent blacks >here >say it is precisely his religious background -- he was president of the >Mississippi Baptist Convention in the 1980's -- that they admire. > > "I know Judge Pickering is a fair and impartial person grounded with >Christian ethics and beliefs, who ought to be given this chance," said the >Rev. >Arthur Logan, the black pastor of the Union Baptist Church and a member of >the >City Council. "There are many people in Mississippi who made these same >mistakes >early in life, but their strong Christian character brought them closer to >God >and helped them change." > > Four of the five black council members, in fact, said they >enthusiastically >supported Judge Pickering's appointment. The fifth, Manuel Jones, said he >opposed the nomination, largely because he differed with Judge Pickering's >efforts in the late 1980's to integrate the largely black city schools with >the >largely white county schools. > > Judge Pickering, then in private practice in Laurel, was one of several >white >city leaders who argued that the city could not attract economic >development >with an effectively segregated school system. At the time, Mr. Jones was >president of the Laurel-Jones County branch of the N.A.A.C.P., which >maintained >that consolidation would dilute black administrative power over the city >schools. The consolidation plan was eventually overturned by a federal >judge, >who said it was not justified. > > Mr. Jones said he rebuffed a recent telephone request by Judge Pickering >that >he write the Senate a letter of support. (He had publicly opposed the >judge's >original appointment to the federal bench in 1990.) Several other council >members did agree to the judge's request, however, and their letters are on >file >with the Senate Judiciary Committee. > > "It's hard to go against a sitting federal judge," said Mr. Jones, >searching >for an explanation of why his colleagues have taken a position that differs >so >sharply from his. > > Many of the judge's critics have cited actions or statements he made in >the >1960's and 70's. They have pointed to an article he wrote in 1959 that >appeared >to support strengthening the state's law against interracial marriages, and >to >his votes in the state senate that appeared to dilute black voting >strength. > > But his many black supporters here -- all lifelong Democrats -- say they >are >more interested in his journey than his starting point. They say Judge >Pickering, like many white Mississippians, has moved beyond his >all-too-common >origins. > > "He grew up like a lot of white people here," said the Rev. George L. >Barnes, >a black minister who is pastor at two Missionary Baptist churches and owns >a >used-car lot. "But his daddy and my daddy used to swim together down in the >creek, and I've never heard him say a racist thing. I would say, of people >in >his age bracket, he's probably come further than any white man I know of." > > Local leaders' support for Judge Pickering has put them at odds with >several >black state officials and the Mississippi conference of the N.A.A.C.P., >which >oppose his appointment. Bennie Thompson, a Democrat who represents the >Delta >region on the opposite side of the state in Congress, has called the >judge's >black supporters "Judases." State N.A.A.C.P. officials say the judge's >supporters in Laurel have succumbed to an effort to cover up his feelings >with >small acts of kindness. This alternately angers and amuses local residents, >who >say no such masquerade can last for decades. > > "If he's been putting on a show for us, it's the greatest show on >earth," >said Mr. Thomas, who runs the city's only black-owned pharmacy and who >served >with Mr. Pickering on the local economic development board in the 1980's. > > Ralph Neas, president of People for the American Way, which is leading >the >opposition to the appointment, said many of the judge's supporters in >Laurel >simply did not know the full details of his record. > > "We don't dispute that he has support from a number of African-Americans >at >the local level, and we have never said he is a racist," Mr. Neas said. "He >may >be a decent person on a one-to-one basis, but that's not the issue. It's >his >actions as a public official that demonstrate insensitivity and hostility >toward >basic civil rights principles." > > People for the American Way said that as a state senator in the 1970's, >Mr. >Pickering voted for measures to reduce black voting strength and approved >giving >state money to the Mississippi Sovereignty Commission, which became >notorious >for opposing the civil rights movement. On the federal bench, the group >said, he >has strongly criticized the creation of largely black political districts >as a >remedy for past discrimination. > > Many local residents said they were not familiar with such statements. >But >they do remember that in 1967, Judge Pickering testified against Sam >Bowers, a >Ku Klux Klan leader based in Laurel who was on trial for the firebombing >death >of a black civil rights worker. Several said that just as the judge broke >with >prevailing white opinion in the state to do so, they have no trouble >differing >with black opinion. > > "What blacks have fought for is freedom, and that means the freedom of >expression to differ among ourselves," said Johnny Magee, a black >councilman who >supports the judge. "So many people are still angry about the past. But if >the >judge has moved beyond his past, I think we should all try to do the same." > > > http://www.nytimes.com > >GRAPHIC: Photos: Thaddeus Edmonson, above, of the City Council in Laurel, >Miss., >said of Judge Charles W. Pickering, below, "I can't believe the man they're >describing in Washington is the same one I've known for years." (Marc >Thomas for >The New York Times); (Associated Press) > >LOAD-DATE: February 17, 2002 > _________________________________________________________________ Never get a busy signal because you are always connected with high-speed Internet access. Click here to comparison-shop providers. https://broadband.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 19:12:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9M0CN6q017087 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:12:26 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9AA321E6017A; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:10:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C4061E60179 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:10:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1603A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:03:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14561823 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:03:19 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f20.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9M03I319220 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:03:18 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:03:13 -0700 Received: from 149.160.22.98 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:03:13 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.22.98] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Problems Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:03:13 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Oct 2003 00:03:13.0373 (UTC) FILETIME=[E2E020D0:01C3982F] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I don't think the problem is a node. 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Get a FREE computer virus scan online from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 19:47:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9M0lT6q017414 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:47:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0851C1E60176; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:45:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCC9B1E60175 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:45:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A160D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:38:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14563341 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:38:27 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9M0cQ322318 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:38:27 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003102200382101300njr83e> (Authid: adamh1); Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:38:21 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Tiddely pom Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:38:19 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <200310211222.h9LCMSZ11612@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I am strongly tempted to quote Dorothy Parker. > clo My current book is The Portable Dorothy Parker. Good stuff so far. I read a few theater reviews in advance and they're great. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 20:09:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9M19C6q017584 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:09:12 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 839441E6018B; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:07:03 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51CBD1E6017D for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:07:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1611C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:00:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14564180 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:00:09 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9M108324305 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:00:08 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-192.gwi.net [216.195.152.192]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9M106Gp005988; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:00:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031021205920.00b165d8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:59:58 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Cats In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >You're a regular Clarice Starling, or maybe a latter day Nancy Drew. What >are you going to call this story? The Silence of the Mutts. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 20:11:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9M1BG6q017596 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:11:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 718AA1E6018D; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:09:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FFAD1E6018B for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:09:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1611A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:02:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14564274 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:02:13 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9M12D324514 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:02:13 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <200310220102070150083imhe> (Authid: adamh1); Wed, 22 Oct 2003 01:02:07 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Cats Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:02:05 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Now, I'm sure I saw this movie. It might even have been set in a stark > ville in Mississippi. But was there a clock tower? --Adam adamh1@comcast.net who hasn't noticed any repeated postings and yes, it's still Send= Public From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 20:13:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9M1DC6q017617 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:13:12 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 171051E6018D; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:11:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBA011E6018C for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:11:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1613D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:04:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14564351 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:04:10 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9M14A324704 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:04:10 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9M1478b015828 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:04:07 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.103]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9M145fC031132 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:04:06 -0400 Message-ID: <00ee01c39837$513ef6d0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "Wordslurs" Subject: Noseeums... Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:56:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What... exactly, is a "noseeum" bug? I mean, what is its kingdom, phylum, class, order, family, genus, species... ? 'Alan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 20:13:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9M1DN6q017627 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:13:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 182051E6018C; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:11:15 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD3D91E6018B for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:11:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A16125@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:04:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14564381 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:04:21 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9M14L324744 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:04:21 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.131]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031022010416.WIOH1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:04:16 -0400 Message-ID: <3F95D78F.2A755C16@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:04:15 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pickering References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen wrote: > Here's how he characterizes the Firestone piece: "Yet, a New York Times > reporter, writing from Mississippi, has, as I shall indicate, shown the wide > and strong support Pickering has among blacks in that state. On February 17, > 2002, David Firestone wrote a piece headed: "Blacks at Home Support a Judge > Liberals Assail."" Do you think it's fair to summarize the Firestone piece > as showing that Pickering has wide and strong support among blacks in the > state? If by "wide" he means geographically widespread, then I would say no -- that that article did not address locales outside of Jones and Forrest Counties. If by "wide" he meant wide-ranging occupations or social classes or whatever, I'd have to go back and look again at the various people he quoted. I don't remember who all they were, as in their . I do think it showed "strong" support. > Here's what he had to say last week on the Lewis piece (apparently he plans > to expound further this week): ... > Do you think the Times is required in an editorial to repeat the key facts > as presented in an 1800 word article? No. Just not distort them. > Interestingly, here Hentoff is saying > that he would hesitate to vote for Pickering because of actions that Hentoff > deems unethical. Why is that interesting? I thought his point was not that he was praising Pickering. I thought it was that he was questioning the specific accusation of racism. Are all unethical or otherwise undesirable people racists? I don't think so. > It appears to me that Hentoff's ardent defence of Pickering is a based on > thin stuff. I'm still of the opinion that Pickering isn't a racist (based on read-say and hear-say, not on first-hand knowledge). I'm not for him. Neither is Hentoff. But that isn't really the point here. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 20:21:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9M1Ln6q017693 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:21:49 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B81A71E6018D; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:19:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 897931E6018C for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:19:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1615E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:12:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14564712 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:12:46 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9M1Ck325450 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:12:46 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.131]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031022011241.WMQQ1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:12:41 -0400 Message-ID: <3F95D988.8909392C@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:12:40 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cats References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen wrote: > You're a regular Clarice Starling, or maybe a latter day Nancy Drew. What > are you going to call this story? "The White Dog." Downright Poe-esque. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 20:22:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9M1MZ6q017705 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:22:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C4F7C1E60176; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:47:42 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 815DE1E60175 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:47:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A160DF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:40:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14563448 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:40:49 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9M0em322524 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:40:48 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.131]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031022004043.VYWB1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:40:43 -0400 Message-ID: <3F95D20B.100EE7A8@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:40:43 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pickering References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen wrote: > > Here's the Firestone article to which Hentoff referred. It focuses on the > support Pickering has received in his hometown, but the article doesn't seem > to support the notion that he has widespread support among black leaders > across the state. That article includes some of the kinds of things I've read elsewhere about him. I'm glad you dug it out. It's not one of the specific ones I've read and doesn't have exactly the same examples, but it's similar. I don't know what the vote would be if black leaders across the state voted on whether he is or isn't a racist (which is, as I mentioned before, a different question from whether he is or isn't somebody you're for in every way). I thought Hentoff's quoting of the Black Caucus leader was . But I would consider the opinions of those who really know him and know what he has or hasn't done more important than the opinions of those who don't know those things, whether they are across the country or simply across the state. I found this statement odd: >But here on the streets of his small and largely black hometown, far >from the bitterness of partisan agendas and position papers, Charles Pickering is a >widely admired figure of a very different present. That was apparently referring to Laurel, although the article mentioned that he had also been a judge in nearby Hattiesburg (nearby in this case doesn't mean like Brooklyn and Queens or Atlanta and Decatur -- there's blank space between them). I have never thought of Laurel or Hattiesburg as "largely black." I'm sure the figures are easily findable online, but I'm too lazy to look for them right now. My gut feeling, though, is that that description is bogus -- that they are maybe pretty close to 50-50. To me "largely black" suggests 80+% black, which I do not believe either Laurel or Hattiesburg is. (Fwiw, Jones County, where Laurel is, was against secession and was for many years called "The Free State of Jones.") -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 20:22:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9M1MZ6q017706 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:22:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CC3721E6017F; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:52:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CF0D1E6017D for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:52:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001B57A6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:45:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14563574 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:45:15 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f110.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.110]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9M0j8322895 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:45:08 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:45:02 -0700 Received: from 149.160.22.98 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:45:02 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.22.98] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Pickering Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:45:02 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Oct 2003 00:45:02.0476 (UTC) FILETIME=[BA6ADCC0:01C39835] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I've re-read the Hentoff piece (apparently part 1) and re-read the two NY Times pieces he cites. He argues that the NY Times editorialist is ignoring the facts as presented in the two news pieces. Regardless of where you stand in the underlying issue (whether Pickering should be approved by the Senate), Hentoff's argument regarding the Times is unfounded. In supporting his argument, it appears to me that he substantially misrepresents the substance of both news pieces. Here's how he characterizes the Firestone piece: "Yet, a New York Times reporter, writing from Mississippi, has, as I shall indicate, shown the wide and strong support Pickering has among blacks in that state. On February 17, 2002, David Firestone wrote a piece headed: "Blacks at Home Support a Judge Liberals Assail."" Do you think it's fair to summarize the Firestone piece as showing that Pickering has wide and strong support among blacks in the state? Here's what he had to say last week on the Lewis piece (apparently he plans to expound further this week): "In the May 28, 2003, Times, Neil A. Lewis, a first-rate legal-affairs reporter for the paper, wrote, from Mississippi, an article titled "A Judge, a Renomination and the Cross-Burning Case That Won't End." "Because Lewis accurately concluded that the cross-burning case "has become the centerpiece" of the Pickering confirmation debate, he reviewed "the transcripts of the trial and sentencing hearings," as well as conducted "interviews with people involved in the case," and examined Justice Department documents. Lewis's 1,823-word story provides key facts that were entirely absent from the Times editorial wholly condemning Pickering's actions concerning that case. More of Neil Lewis's piece next week. "I am not reviewing Pickering's actions in the case as an argument for his confirmation. I would hesitate to vote for him, because he asked lawyers who bring cases before him in the District Court to write to the Senate Judiciary Committee supporting his nomination to the Fifth Circuit. That is unethical." Do you think the Times is required in an editorial to repeat the key facts as presented in an 1800 word article? Interestingly, here Hentoff is saying that he would hesitate to vote for Pickering because of actions that Hentoff deems unethical. It appears to me that Hentoff's ardent defence of Pickering is a based on thin stuff. _________________________________________________________________ See when your friends are online with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 20:22:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9M1Ma6q017725 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:22:36 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 99A521E6017E; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:50:00 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 680011E6017D for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:50:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A160F2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:43:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14563520 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:43:07 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9M0h6322687 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:43:06 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.131]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031022004301.VZUL1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:43:01 -0400 Message-ID: <3F95D294.EE9FB4BB@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:43:00 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cats References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen wrote: > Uh huh, and I guess you think it's just a coincidence that the "white dog" > has gone missing on the very day that your reclusive, formerly sickly > neighbor, a cat person by the way, who never said much and kept to himself, > has decided to leave town? Eeek. But now I'm thinking about the hero I might become. I can find white dog hair in this person's house and take it to be tested to prove that he stole the white dog. Then we can trace his route to NC and find the white dog. And the campus will rejoice. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 20:22:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9M1MZ6q017710 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:22:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CBD7F1E60174; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:55:45 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D17F1E6017D for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:55:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A160F3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:48:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14563692 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:48:52 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f85.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9M0mp323228 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:48:52 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:48:46 -0700 Received: from 149.160.22.98 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:48:46 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.22.98] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Cats Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:48:46 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Oct 2003 00:48:46.0325 (UTC) FILETIME=[3FD78250:01C39836] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor >>Eeek. But now I'm thinking about the hero I might become. I can find >white dog hair in this person's house and take it to be tested to prove >that he stole the white dog. Then we can trace his route to NC and find >the white dog. And the campus will rejoice. You're a regular Clarice Starling, or maybe a latter day Nancy Drew. What are you going to call this story? _________________________________________________________________ Add MSN 8 Internet Software to your current Internet access and enjoy patented spam control and more. Get two months FREE! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/byoa From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 20:24:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9M1OK6q017855 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:24:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CE2B51E60174; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:22:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A02191E60175 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:22:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001B5824@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:15:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14564854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:15:18 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9M1FH325802 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:15:18 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.131]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031022011512.WOAB1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:15:12 -0400 Message-ID: <3F95DA1E.59AB71E@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:15:10 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cats References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031021205920.00b165d8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > The Silence of the Mutts. But there's only one, as far as I know. If it turns out to be more than one, then indeed that title would work well. Hmm. He showed me his pecan-picker-upper and told me to feel free to gather pecans. He didn't show me a shovel, but I could always carry one across the street. There may be dogs buried all over his yard. I am envisioning ritualistic murders with the cats playing major roles. I think I need to get to know these cats better and pick their brains on this subject. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 20:26:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9M1QC6q017864 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:26:12 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AF95C1E60175; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:24:03 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DBB91E60174 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:24:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A16165@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:17:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14564927 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:17:10 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9M1H9325953 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:17:09 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.131]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031022011704.WOYO1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:17:04 -0400 Message-ID: <3F95DA90.B729EA35@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:17:04 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cats References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031021205920.00b165d8@pop.gwi.net> <3F95DA1E.59AB71E@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU And the plot may thicken. Somebody up on the next street has a huge garden in this person's yard. He may be part of the animal-molestation rites. The garden may be a camouflage of some kind, which would explain why Spencer always tries to drag me down into that garden, where he sniffs with great interest. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 20:38:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9M1cR6q018038 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:38:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D0A061E60180; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:36:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E73B1E6017E for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:36:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1618A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:29:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14565329 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:29:25 -0400 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9M1TO326880 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:29:24 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9M1TN8e022664 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:29:23 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3F95DD31.9040904@swbell.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:28:17 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cats References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031021205920.00b165d8@pop.gwi.net> <3F95DA1E.59AB71E@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Nah, the ritualistic cat murders are out in St. Charles County (according to the news last night). Natalie Maynor wrote: > "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > > >>The Silence of the Mutts. >> > > But there's only one, as far as I know. If it turns out to be more than > one, then indeed that title would work well. Hmm. He showed me his > pecan-picker-upper and told me to feel free to gather pecans. He didn't > show me a shovel, but I could always carry one across the street. There > may be dogs buried all over his yard. I am envisioning ritualistic > murders with the cats playing major roles. I think I need to get to > know these cats better and pick their brains on this subject. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 20:42:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9M1gc6q018108 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:42:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D4F2D1E6017A; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:40:29 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A59171E60176 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:40:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A16192@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:33:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14565406 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:33:36 -0400 Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com (web20502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9M1Xa327135 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:33:36 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:33:35 PDT Message-ID: <20031022013335.67911.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:33:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: question To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F950544.56EEFF5F@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > like a survey more interesting -- a survey of the > general US adult > population indicating their knowledge of Nabokov, > for example. Or Jane Austen. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 20:45:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9M1jB6q018127 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:45:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D79291E6017C; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:43:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A97971E6017B for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:43:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A16196@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:36:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14565457 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:36:09 -0400 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9M1a9327346 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:36:09 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:36:08 PDT Message-ID: <20031022013608.82481.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:36:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: is the list down... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Marty Rosen wrote: > >From: Natalie Maynor > >No, not early days. Can't remember exactly when. > Mid '90s or so? > > Everything was discussed in 1996. And resolved? Years later, surely some things have occurred to try men's souls. Is it worth a revival? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 20:50:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9M1or6q018174 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:50:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3643A1E6017B; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:48:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B071E60176 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:48:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001B586D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:41:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14565622 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:41:50 -0400 Received: from web20512.mail.yahoo.com (web20512.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9M1fn327773 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:41:49 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20512.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:41:49 PDT Message-ID: <20031022014149.63665.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:41:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Coaching To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F950BAD.384B5A44@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > story about our coach's recent resignation > announcement: "His contract, > which compensates him in the neighborhood of > $775,000 annually, runs > through the 2005 season. Settlement terms have not > been finalized, > Templeton said." > from: Imho, the worst thing a college president ever did was pay one bit of attention to anything suggested by an alumnus. That was the beginning of all this sinful excess, not only in college sports, but in other collegiate matters as well. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 20:54:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9M1su6q018220 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:54:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E985E1E6017A; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:52:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7A801E60176 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:52:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001B58A2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:45:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14565823 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:45:54 -0400 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9M1js328182 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:45:54 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:45:52 PDT Message-ID: <20031022014552.29710.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:45:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Coaching To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031021085436.00b16198@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Well, you have to remember what a sterling example > of manhood and integrity > that he has been... > > I don't know if anyone around Starkville is saying > it, but he is probably > jumping just ahead of being canned. That's probably the reason most coaches resign. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 20:57:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9M1vM6q018230 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:57:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 638831E60176; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:55:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35FA01E60175 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:55:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001B5883@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:48:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14565858 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:47:27 -0400 Received: from web20503.mail.yahoo.com (web20503.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.138]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9M1lQ328299 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:47:27 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:47:22 PDT Message-ID: <20031022014722.93929.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:47:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Subscription probe for WORDS-L - please ignore To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <002301c397d4$d407d590$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >This message is a "probe" for your subscription to > the > >WORDS-L list. > > > > In honor of Tushar, OH MY ASS! Well, at least you wrote "honor", not "memory". __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 21:02:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9M22e6q018244 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:02:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3739A1E6017B; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:00:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 024F51E6017A for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:00:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A161F3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:53:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14566331 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:53:37 -0400 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9M1ra328930 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:53:36 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:53:35 PDT Message-ID: <20031022015335.31077.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:53:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Pup in the woods To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1e59a20b01.20b011e59a@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU a little trickly stream of > water -- whimper whimper. But I made him do it > himself -- no coddling here no sir. This is Warrior > Training! He needs to learn to be a little more > independent -- he has some apparent separation > anxiety when alone which makes me feel just awful > leaving to go to work. But I ignore his whimpering > because that's what I'm told to do. I don't want him > to be a whiner. We do have a walker coming in at > midday during the week. It seems you have made a really wonderful start with him. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 21:10:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9M2AS6q018333 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:10:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BED911E60176; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:08:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BBAC1E60175 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:08:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A16226@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:01:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14566822 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:01:25 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9M21P330001 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:01:25 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.131]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031022020120.GXFJ1826.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:01:20 -0400 Message-ID: <3F95E4EF.A0B2F812@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:01:19 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: question References: <20031022013335.67911.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > > like a survey more interesting -- a survey of the > > general US adult > > population indicating their knowledge of Nabokov, > > for example. > > Or Jane Austen. "Knowledge of" could mean various things, of course, but my guess is that within The Masses, more people have heard of Jane Austen than of Nabokov. But then it may be that more people in The Masses have heard of of _Lolita_ than have heard of _Northanger Abbey_. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 21:20:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9M2Ks6q018463 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:20:54 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BB0FB1E6017C; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:18:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B8A21E6017B for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:18:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A16254@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:11:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14567210 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:11:47 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9M2Bl331060 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:11:47 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.131]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031022021142.HBOP1826.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:11:42 -0400 Message-ID: <3F95E75D.613A131D@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:11:41 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Coaching References: <20031022014149.63665.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Imho, the worst thing a college president ever did was > pay one bit of attention to anything suggested by an > alumnus. That was the beginning of all this sinful > excess, not only in college sports, but in other > collegiate matters as well. I dunno. That's an interesting thought. Alumni are a crucial source of financial support for universities. I'm not talking now about things like the pennies I send to UT, though many people's pennies are bigger than my pennies and add up. I'm thinking more, though, about huge gifts, like new well-equipped buildings, gigantic scholarship funds, etc. I don't mean that I support any kind of money-grabbing from alums that is in trade-off for detrimental things. But alums are crucial in keeping colleges and universities afloat. And I believe that it is not only polite but also perhaps helpful to listen to them. I believe that my responding to a survey from the UT English Dept a number of years ago might have been helpful -- telling them about the goods and bads of their PhD progam in English. I believe that some of the surveys of alums done by the Collge of Engineering at MSU have also been helpful -- surveys which led the various Engineering departments to add more writing requirements because their alums said that writing ability was something quite useful for them. Etc. But I am drifting from what you said. These surveys etc had nothing to do with the presidents. They were more localized. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 21:50:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9M2oM6q018656 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:50:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D64E31E60182; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:48:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A76381E60180 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:48:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A16288@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:41:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14568110 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:41:19 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9M2fJ301537 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:41:19 -0400 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003102202410901600la8jae>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 02:41:10 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031021192952.02162968@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:41:39 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Problems In-Reply-To: <3F95C71A.5115BB04@maynor.net> References: <16b.254b28ce.2cc71ed7@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, >It was fun to track the progress of e-mail through the various nodes. It's not the same thing, but I bet you'd have fun with Ping Plotter . It's a ping/traceroute utility for Windows that makes pretty real-time graphs of the ping times. It comes in a freeware version and a fancier shareware version; the freeware one is good enough for many uses, including having fun. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 21:51:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9M2p36q018662 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:51:03 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 714A61E60186; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:48:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D401E60185 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:48:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A16298@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:42:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14568125 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:42:00 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9M2g0301604 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:42:00 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-192.gwi.net [216.195.152.192]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9M2fvAt023189; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:41:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031021224117.00b2f770@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:41:53 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: is the list down... In-Reply-To: <20031022013608.82481.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:36 PM 10/21/2003 -0700, Lynne Weber wrote: > > > > Everything was discussed in 1996. > > >And resolved? Of course not. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 21:54:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9M2si6q018744 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:54:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F2CAB1E60188; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:52:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52141E60180 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:52:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1629A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:45:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14568304 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:45:38 -0400 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9M2jb301979 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:45:38 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:45:37 PDT Message-ID: <20031022024537.887.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:45:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Cats To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F95D294.EE9FB4BB@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Eeek. But now I'm thinking about the hero I might > become. I can find > white dog hair in this person's house and take it to > be tested to prove > that he stole the white dog. Then we can trace his > route to NC and find > the white dog. And the campus will rejoice. I'd keep an eye on those cats. They may be a ruse. In fact, they may be raptors, in which case, you could be raptured. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 21:57:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9M2vH6q018778 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:57:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 65E131E60188; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:55:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35A3F1E60186 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:55:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A162D0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:48:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14568538 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:48:14 -0400 Received: from web20509.mail.yahoo.com (web20509.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.144]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9M2mE302332 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:48:14 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20509.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:48:13 PDT Message-ID: <20031022024813.70551.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:48:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Noseeums... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <00ee01c39837$513ef6d0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Alan Wild wrote: > What... exactly, is a "noseeum" bug? I mean, what > is its kingdom, phylum, > class, order, family, genus, species... ? > > 'Alan Now you're taking all the "fun" out of them. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 22:01:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9M31x6q018802 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:01:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6167D1E60185; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:59:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F2811E6017E for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:59:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A162E7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:52:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14568924 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:52:56 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9M2qu303118 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:52:56 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 831362B588; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:52:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AF862B559 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:52:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:52:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Marty Rosen wrote: > I don't think this is a technical problem with words-l. I think it's just > that everybody on the list keeps saying the same things over and over again. > I know for a fact that it's been going on since 1996, but it may have > started in 1991. Do you think it's nosocomial? Oh good, a word to keep 'iatrogenic' company! (In my thesaurian larder) Ann > > > > >From: Doris Markland > >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group > >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Subject: Problems > >Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:39:51 -0500 > > > >Is anyone else having this problem? > >I don't know if it's Words-l or if it's my local provider. > > > >I keep getting all the same mail over and over. > >Sometimes I get 3 copies of each message > >in a row. > > > >Sometimes I get all the messages and then all the messages and then all the > >messages. > > > >I've had to unsub to stop it. Right now I'm on digest to see if that stops > >it. > > > >Anyone else? > > > > - D. M. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Want to check if your PC is virus-infected? Get a FREE computer virus scan > online from McAfee. > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 22:02:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9M32L6q018818 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:02:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E1D721E60180; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:00:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B46471E6017E for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:00:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A162DB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:53:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14568945 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:53:18 -0400 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9M2rI303159 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:53:18 -0400 Received: from [68.17.136.5] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:53:17 PDT Message-ID: <20031022025317.71160.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:53:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Cats To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F95DA90.B729EA35@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > And the plot may thicken. Somebody up on the next > street has a huge > garden in this person's yard. He may be part of the > animal-molestation > rites. The garden may be a camouflage of some kind, > which would explain > why Spencer always tries to drag me down into that > garden, where he > sniffs with great interest. I smell conspiracy. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 22:08:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9M38U6q018874 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:08:30 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A08171E60180; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:06:20 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EA461E6017E for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:06:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1631B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:59:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14569525 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:59:27 -0400 Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9M2xQ303773 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:59:26 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1ee.11d7d43e (4196) for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:59:16 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1ee.11d7d43e.2cc74c84@aol.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:59:16 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Cats To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie, that may be some sort of old (or new) burial ground. I'd take a cross, holy water, and incense if I were you. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 22:08:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9M38u6q018878 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:08:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 57DCB1E60182; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:06:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2891A1E60180 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:06:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1632C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:59:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14569652 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:59:53 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f43.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.43]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9M2xr303877 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:59:53 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:59:47 -0700 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 02:59:47 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Pickering Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:59:47 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Oct 2003 02:59:47.0686 (UTC) FILETIME=[8D940060:01C39848] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor >Why is that interesting? I thought his point was not that he was >praising Pickering. I thought it was that he was questioning the >specific accusation of racism. Are all unethical or otherwise >undesirable people racists? I don't think so. No, quite right. I think it was interesting to me mostly because it was a symptom of how scattered Hentoff has become. He wouldn't last three days on words-l. But then, most pundits wouldn't. _________________________________________________________________ Use custom emotions -- try MSN Messenger 6.0! http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_emoticon From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 22:10:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9M3A36q018885 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:10:03 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 581D51E60182; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:07:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A1511E6017E for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:07:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001B5ABC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:00:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14569954 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:00:17 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9M30H304117 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:00:17 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9M30D8b018198 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:00:13 -0400 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9M30DfC015462 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:00:13 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:00:05 -0400 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Noseeums... Message-ID: <455737968.1066777205@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <20031022024813.70551.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031022024813.70551.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > --- Alan Wild wrote: >> What... exactly, is a "noseeum" bug? I mean, what >> is its kingdom, phylum, >> class, order, family, genus, species... ? >> >> 'Alan All that and more... Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 21 22:14:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9M3Ef6q018904 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:14:41 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5CF211E60185; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:12:32 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 272BF1E60182 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:12:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A16481@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:05:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14572384 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:05:38 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f78.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.78]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9M35Y305844 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:05:34 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:05:29 -0700 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 03:05:28 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Problems Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:05:28 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Oct 2003 03:05:29.0012 (UTC) FILETIME=[59063740:01C39849] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Ann Borkin > > started in 1991. Do you think it's nosocomial? > >Oh good, a word to keep 'iatrogenic' company! (In my thesaurian >larder) This was the subject header of an extraordinarily long words-l thread back in, oh, 1996, the year after Outbreak was released. _________________________________________________________________ Get 10MB of e-mail storage! Sign up for Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 05:02:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9MA2c6q022809 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 05:02:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ECE371E601A6; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 05:00:25 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB0F61E601A5 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 05:00:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A16B06@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 5:53:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14587806 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 05:53:32 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9M9rV311501 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 05:53:31 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.163.212]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031022095326.BEBI1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 05:53:26 -0400 Message-ID: <3F965395.5AA34209@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 04:53:25 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Problems References: <16b.254b28ce.2cc71ed7@aol.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031021192952.02162968@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > It's not the same thing, but I bet you'd have fun with Ping Plotter > . It's a ping/traceroute utility for Windows > that makes pretty real-time graphs of the ping times. It comes in a > freeware version and a fancier shareware version; the freeware one is good > enough for many uses, including having fun. This does sound like my kind of thing. Thanks! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 05:03:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9MA3M6q022819 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 05:03:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5322C1E601A6; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 05:01:10 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 255B91E601A5 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 05:01:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A16AF8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 5:54:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14587812 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 05:54:16 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9M9sG311535 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 05:54:16 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.163.212]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031022095411.BEDM1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 05:54:11 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9653C2.A058DA50@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 04:54:10 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cats References: <20031022024537.887.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > I'd keep an eye on those cats. They may be a ruse. > In fact, they may be raptors, in which case, you could > be raptured. If I keep getting e-mail, does it mean I haven't been raptured? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 05:07:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9MA7S6q022829 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 05:07:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B0B6B1E601A5; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 05:05:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EDD51E601A4 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 05:05:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A16B0B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 5:58:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14587865 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 05:58:22 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9M9wM311723 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 05:58:22 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.163.212]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031022095817.BEUM1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 05:58:17 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9654B8.E13E56D1@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 04:58:16 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cats References: <1ee.11d7d43e.2cc74c84@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > > Natalie, that may be some sort of old (or new) burial ground. > I'd take a cross, holy water, and incense if I were you. Hmm. I have a little wooden cross that all the animals blessed at the Episcopal Church on the blessing day were given. I bet a cross given to a dog is especially effective. I'm not sure about holy water and incense, though. I think one of the convenience stores I frequent sells incense. But where do I get holy water? There's a Catholic Church very near that convenience store. And it has a huge Baptist-style pool thing. Does water stay in it all the time? And is it holy? I bet I can find out at lunch since a bunch of my lunch friends go to that church. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-WORDS-L*words-l**GTOAL*-COM@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 05:09:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9MA9F6q022849 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 05:09:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BB5CF1E601A8; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 05:07:03 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87CB41E601A5 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 05:07:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001B61AD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 6:00:06 -0400 Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 06:00:01 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UGA (1.8d)" Subject: Subscription probe for WORDS-L - please ignore To: Graham Toal X-LSV-ListID: WORDS-L Message-Id: <20031022100703.87CB41E601A5@teraserver.gtoal.com> Wed, 22 Oct 2003 06:00:01 This message is a "probe" for your subscription to the WORDS-L list. 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From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 05:10:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9MAAL6q022878 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 05:10:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 11A061E601A5; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 05:08:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D291E1E601A4 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 05:08:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A16B40@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 6:01:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14588305 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 06:01:15 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9MA1E312009 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 06:01:15 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.163.212]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031022100109.BFFV1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 06:01:09 -0400 Message-ID: <3F965564.9E411E84@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 05:01:08 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pickering References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen wrote: > symptom of how scattered Hentoff has become. He wouldn't last three days on > words-l. But then, most pundits wouldn't. That might be fun. I'm imagining list intercourse with various pundits now. It would be interesting to see which ones wimped out or got gobbled up first. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 07:08:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9MC8v6q024023 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 07:08:57 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2D3BC1E601B4; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 07:06:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F08C51E601AE for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 07:06:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A16C4D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 7:59:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14591135 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 07:59:50 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9MBxo308809 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 07:59:50 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 07:59:50 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 07:52:22 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Cats Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h9MC8v6q024023 I remember the recipe for holy water from when I was a kid. It's very simple. You take ordinary water and boil the hell out of it. BrP >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 10/22/03 05:58AM >>> But where do I get holy water? There's a Catholic Church very near that convenience store. And it has a huge Baptist-style pool thing. Does water stay in it all the time? And is it holy? I bet I can find out at lunch since a bunch of my lunch friends go to that church. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 07:25:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9MCPZ6q024203 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 07:25:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4FCC61E601B5; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 07:23:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EA111E601B7 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 07:23:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A16CA0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 8:16:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14591812 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:16:25 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9MCGN310607 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:16:23 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9MCGM8b026268 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:16:22 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9MCGMfC000452 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:16:22 -0400 Message-ID: <048701c39896$4f9a3b50$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031022024813.70551.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: Noseeums... Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:16:24 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ;-) Well... ? Are they creatures from the Burgess Shale? ... a micro version of Wiwaxia? I just want to know if they're real... or is it merely a psychotic manifestation of my director ;-P ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne Weber" > --- Alan Wild wrote: > > What... exactly, is a "noseeum" bug? I mean, what > > is its kingdom, phylum, > > class, order, family, genus, species... ? > > > > 'Alan > > Now you're taking all the "fun" out of them. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 07:29:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9MCTU6q024243 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 07:29:30 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1BD3D1E601B7; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 07:27:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E16C01E601B4 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 07:27:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A16CA9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 8:20:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14592079 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:20:14 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9MCKE311175 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:20:14 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9MCKE8b026406 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:20:14 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9MCKEfC001130 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:20:14 -0400 Message-ID: <04a601c39896$d99a99d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031022024813.70551.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> <455737968.1066777205@TWild.uri.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Noseeums... Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:20:15 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Cool!!! Thanks Ter. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Wild" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 11:00 PM Subject: Re: Noseeums... > > --- Alan Wild wrote: > >> What... exactly, is a "noseeum" bug? I mean, what > >> is its kingdom, phylum, > >> class, order, family, genus, species... ? > >> > >> 'Alan > > > All that and more... > > oseeums.htm> > > > Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 07:48:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9MCmp6q024462 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 07:48:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 287441E601B7; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 07:46:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECCD81E601B5 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 07:46:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001B6399@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 8:39:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14593674 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:39:44 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9MCdh315112 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:39:43 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:39:43 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:32:20 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: interesting on line journal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h9MCmp6q024462 try try again worked for me this morning you will be rewarded by access to such articles as: ENTRETIEN AVEC RUNAR DØVING : CROQUANT, CRAQUANT ET CROUSTILLANT DANS LA CULTURE ALIMENTAIRE NORVEGIENNE BrP >>> meeberphobia@HOTMAIL.COM 10/21/03 07:34PM >>> >From: Paul Barfoot >Anthropology of Food >http://www.aofood.org/default.htm Dang. There's something wrong with the page. _________________________________________________________________ Want to check if your PC is virus-infected? Get a FREE computer virus scan online from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 08:05:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9MD5H6q024607 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:05:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D8CD01E601B7; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:03:03 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FDAF1E601B5 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:03:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A16DC3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 8:56:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14594878 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:56:09 -0400 Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9MCu9318054 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:56:09 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.ad.34df6fb8 (14374) for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:55:57 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:55:57 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Cats To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/22/2003 4:58:38 AM Central Daylight Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: There's a Catholic Church very near that convenience store. you can buy bottles of holy water. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 08:42:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9MDg26q024927 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:42:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C058C1E601BA; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:39:48 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DFE31E601B7 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:39:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A16ECB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 9:32:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14597564 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 09:32:51 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f82.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.82]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9MDWp324688 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 09:32:51 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 06:32:45 -0700 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:32:45 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Pickering Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 09:32:45 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Oct 2003 13:32:45.0615 (UTC) FILETIME=[FA3013F0:01C398A0] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The wonderful Tavis Smiley dealt with Mississippi politics this morning, and mentioned that there hasn't been a black elected to statewide office in Mississippi since reconstruction. He was mostly focusing on the Lt. Governor's race and Barbour's apparently use of the race card. More to the point, though, he had an interesting interview with columnist Eric Stringfellow of the Clarion-Ledger. I checked Stringfellow's archives; he doesn't seem to have written on the Pickering matter, but this article from the paper suggests that Pickering's support among blacks around the state is not very high: http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0303/11/m06.html _________________________________________________________________ Enjoy MSN 8 patented spam control and more with MSN 8 Dial-up Internet Service. Try it FREE for one month! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 08:43:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9MDhx6q024933 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:43:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4AD111E601BA; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:41:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C6B1E601B7 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:41:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001B653D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 9:34:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14597712 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 09:34:52 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f78.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.78]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9MDYp324966 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 09:34:51 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 06:34:46 -0700 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:34:46 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Cats Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 09:34:46 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Oct 2003 13:34:46.0210 (UTC) FILETIME=[42116A20:01C398A1] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Paul Barfoot > >I remember the recipe for holy water from when I was a kid. It's very >simple. You take ordinary water and boil the hell out of it. ROFL _________________________________________________________________ Never get a busy signal because you are always connected with high-speed Internet access. Click here to comparison-shop providers. https://broadband.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 08:45:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9MDjj6q024938 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:45:45 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 920321E601BC; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:43:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 601921E601BB for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:43:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A16EFC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 9:36:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14597884 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 09:36:37 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f22.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9MDab325364 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 09:36:37 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 06:36:31 -0700 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:36:31 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Cats Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 09:36:31 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Oct 2003 13:36:31.0904 (UTC) FILETIME=[81110A00:01C398A1] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Evelyn Duncan >near that convenience store. > >you can buy bottles of holy water. Of course you can. Send me 39.95, and I'll send you a bottle right away, no charge for shipping. _________________________________________________________________ Send instant messages to anyone on your contact list with MSN Messenger 6.0. Try it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 08:52:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9MDqq6q025008 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:52:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 117E81E601BC; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:50:33 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D76811E601BB for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:50:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001B6585@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 9:43:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14598386 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 09:43:34 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f85.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9MDhX326577 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 09:43:33 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 06:43:28 -0700 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:43:27 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: interesting on line journal Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 09:43:27 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Oct 2003 13:43:28.0070 (UTC) FILETIME=[791EEE60:01C398A2] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Excellent! Thanks for the tip. This should make a fine complement to Petits Propos Culinaire, the best print journal dealing with the history of food. http://www.kal69.dial.pipex.com/ppc.htm http://members.tripod.com/rdeh/ >From: Paul Barfoot >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: interesting on line journal >Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:32:20 -0400 > >try try again >worked for me this morning > >you will be rewarded by access to such articles as: > >ENTRETIEN AVEC RUNAR DØVING : >CROQUANT, CRAQUANT ET CROUSTILLANT DANS LA >CULTURE ALIMENTAIRE NORVEGIENNE > > > >BrP > > > > > >>> meeberphobia@HOTMAIL.COM 10/21/03 07:34PM >>> > >From: Paul Barfoot > >Anthropology of Food > >http://www.aofood.org/default.htm > >Dang. There's something wrong with the page. > >_________________________________________________________________ >Want to check if your PC is virus-infected? 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Try it FREE for one month! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 11:59:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9MGxj6q027010 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:59:45 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E62781E601D0; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:57:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADE0E1E601CE for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:57:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001B6CDF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:50:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14615861 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:50:33 -0400 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9MGoWi30002 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:50:32 -0400 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3EC08F2 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:50:31 -0400 (EDT) From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "Words-l" Subject: . Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:50:32 -0400 Message-ID: <000d01c398bc$9b432b90$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU . From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 12:32:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9MHWs6q027298 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:32:54 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 188151E601CF; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:30:39 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF8A11E601CE for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:30:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1772B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:23:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14618104 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:23:44 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9MHNii03290 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:23:44 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-177.gwi.net [216.195.153.177]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9MHNeAt045504; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:23:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031022132101.00b48368@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:21:48 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: . In-Reply-To: <000d01c398bc$9b432b90$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:50 PM 10/22/2003 -0400, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: ...and beautifully said, too... cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 12:44:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9MHiR6q027380 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:44:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A70241E601D0; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:42:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BEF51E601CF for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:42:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1779E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:35:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14618931 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:35:18 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9MHZHi05148 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:35:17 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-175.inebraska.com [206.222.202.175]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9MHZDth012317 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:35:15 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000601c398c2$c2146620$afcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000d01c398bc$9b432b90$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> Subject: Re: . Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:34:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: . > . > I decline this mail, as I don't do periods anymore. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 13:03:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9MI3J6q027570 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:03:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CF9801E601D0; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:01:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6883B1E601CD for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:01:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A17844@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:54:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14620764 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:54:10 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9MHs9i09200 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:54:09 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:54:09 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:46:43 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: . Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h9MI3J6q027570 May I quote you? BrP >>> plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU 10/22/03 12:50PM >>> . From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 13:12:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9MICK6q027634 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:12:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 212BD1E601CE; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:10:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA0681E601CD for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:10:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A17898@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:03:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14621524 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:03:10 -0400 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9MI3Ai10815 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:03:10 -0400 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9MI38sV6660326 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:03:09 -0500 Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:03:08 -0500 (CDT) From: nam gal sips clark X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: [PMX:#] Re: . In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.0.4.77969 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU 10/22/03 12:50PM > . Your ideas intrigue me, and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 13:19:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9MIJs6q027702 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:19:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ADC781E601D1; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:17:39 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DEFE1E601CF for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:17:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A178D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:10:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14622169 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:10:44 -0400 Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9MIAii12198 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:10:44 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HN600IHW7TPFD@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:10:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:06:59 -0400 Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:06:59 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Pup in the woods To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <93e6292ecf.92ecf93e62@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > He might not really be anxious after you're not there to witness the > whimpering. Dogs are good actors. Oh, no, he leaves evidence. He actually got out of his crate by bending the metal until it broke off -- and this was the "Super Deluxe" model. An 18 lb puppy should not be able to do this. And he wails -- you can hear it when you pull up sometimes. It's so sad. Now, since he's crateless, he's in his own room, where I laid down a vinyl flooring remnant. The dog-walker just called me to say he's done a number on the room. So I'm very worried about him. I don't know what to do. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 13:24:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9MIOM6q027745 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:24:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1E1F31E601D2; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:22:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 840F91E601CF for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:22:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001B6FBA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:15:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14622683 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:15:12 -0400 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9MIFBi13043 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:15:11 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.41.357a3d64 (4340) for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:15:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <41.357a3d64.2cc82328@aol.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:15:04 EDT Subject: Re: Pup in the woods To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/22/2003 12:10:56 PM, 14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET writes: >And he wails -- you can hear it when you pull up sometimes. It's so sad. > You also need to remember that dogs are superb imitators of their owners! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 13:27:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9MIRY6q027775 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:27:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 793911E601CE; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:25:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F231E601CD for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:25:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001B6FBB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:18:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14623018 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:18:24 -0400 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9MIINi13840 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:18:23 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:18:21 PDT Message-ID: <20031022181821.62461.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:18:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Noseeums... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <048701c39896$4f9a3b50$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Alan Wild wrote: > ;-) Well... ? Are they creatures from the Burgess > Shale? ... a micro > version of Wiwaxia? > > I just want to know if they're real... or is it > merely a psychotic > manifestation of my director ;-P > > > 'Alan > > > > Now you're taking all the "fun" out of them. Of course they're real. They bite, sting, flitter and skedunk. They have not been classified yet; they operate on condition of anonymity. Several entomologists who have been close to solving their origin have disappeared mysteriously. They are now also noseeums. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 13:29:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9MITv6q027808 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:29:57 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C8C301E601D1; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:27:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53CD31E601CE for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:27:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A17930@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:20:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14623163 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:20:47 -0400 Received: from web20501.mail.yahoo.com (web20501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.136]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9MIKki14309 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:20:46 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:20:06 PDT Message-ID: <20031022182006.59826.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:20:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Cats To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > you can buy bottles of holy water. 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Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 13:34:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9MIYj6q027830 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:34:48 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B1F7D1E601D4; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:32:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF4C1E601D3 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:32:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1796F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:25:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14623599 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:25:32 -0400 Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9MIPVi15338 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:25:31 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HN600F748II4G@mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:25:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:21:52 -0400 Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:21:52 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Pup in the woods To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <9b1eb98af4.98af49b1eb@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: Theo Groothof > In a message dated 10/22/2003 12:10:56 PM, 14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET > writes: > >And he wails -- you can hear it when you pull up sometimes. It's > so sad. > > > You also need to remember that dogs are superb imitators of their > owners!Theo I try not to let him know that I think it's sad. Is that what you are saying? Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 13:37:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9MIba6q027890 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:37:36 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 687051E601CF; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:35:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02C7D1E601CE for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:35:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001B702E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:28:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14623993 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:28:23 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9MISNi16084 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:28:23 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001B7012@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:28:23 -0400 Message-Id: <200310221828.h9MISNi16084@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:28:23 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Problems To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:52:55 -0700, Ann Borkin wrote: >On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Marty Rosen wrote: > >> I don't think this is a technical problem with words-l. I think it's just >> that everybody on the list keeps saying the same things over and over again. >> I know for a fact that it's been going on since 1996, but it may have >> started in 1991. Do you think it's nosocomial? > >Oh good, a word to keep 'iatrogenic' company! (In my thesaurian >larder) > >Ann > hospitalicious? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 13:41:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9MIfc6q027962 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:41:39 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 96CFB1E601D3; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:39:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D2901E601D2 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:39:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A179D3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:32:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14624472 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:32:29 -0400 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9MIWNi17069 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:32:23 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:31:28 PDT Message-ID: <20031022183128.1526.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:31:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: [PMX:#] Re: . To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- nam gal sips clark wrote: > >plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU 10/22/03 12:50PM > > . > > Your ideas intrigue me, and I would like > to subscribe to your newsletter. Yes, nam, but have you considered : __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 13:49:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9MIns6q028027 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:49:54 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1230E1E601CF; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:47:39 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49F011E601CD for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:47:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A17A19@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:40:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14625086 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:40:44 -0400 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9MIegi18671 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:40:42 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:40:41 PDT Message-ID: <20031022184041.44693.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:40:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Pup in the woods To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <9b1eb98af4.98af49b1eb@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote: > I try not to let him know that I think it's sad. Is > that what you are saying? Do not despair. All puppies behave in this manner. Some of it is real anxiety, some of it is "pushing the envelope". He will settle down once a routine is established. In the meantime, there are just some not so pleasant aspects you have to accept. Dogs are strict prescriptionists. They love rituals and to-do's involving them. It really will work out. Right now, he's not nearly as miserable as he's making you. And expect the odd "accident". He'll make it up to you one day. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 13:56:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9MIuc6q028055 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:56:39 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1429C1E601D1; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:54:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D75EE1E601CD for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:54:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A17A41@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:47:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14625604 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:47:25 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9MIlNi19753 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:47:24 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:47:23 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:40:00 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Noseeums... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h9MIuc6q028055 I love the word skedunk. Googling it produced a small diversty of hits and the question "Did you mean: skunk?" BrP > wrote: > ;-) Well... ? Are they creatures from the Burgess > Shale? ... a micro > version of Wiwaxia? > > I just want to know if they're real... or is it > merely a psychotic > manifestation of my director ;-P > > > 'Alan > > > > Now you're taking all the "fun" out of them. Of course they're real. They bite, sting, flitter and skedunk. They have not been classified yet; they operate on condition of anonymity. Several entomologists who have been close to solving their origin have disappeared mysteriously. They are now also noseeums. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 13:59:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9MIx86q028069 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:59:08 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A9EA81E601D1; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:56:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 909251E601CD for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:56:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A17A58@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:49:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14625849 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:49:57 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9MInui20366 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:49:56 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001B70C9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:49:56 -0400 Message-Id: <200310221849.h9MInui20366@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:49:56 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Problems To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:05:28 -0400, Marty Rosen wrote: >>From: Ann Borkin >> > started in 1991. Do you think it's nosocomial? >> >>Oh good, a word to keep 'iatrogenic' company! (In my thesaurian >>larder) > >This was the subject header of an extraordinarily long words-l thread back >in, oh, 1996, the year after Outbreak was released. > hospitalicious! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 14:38:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9MJc26q028440 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:38:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 455EA1E601D2; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:35:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB4BB1E601D1 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:35:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A17C0C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:28:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14629701 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:28:51 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9MJSoq27985 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:28:50 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h9MJSlDU009774 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:28:47 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h9MJSlp7009772 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:28:47 +0200 Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:28:46 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pup in the woods Message-ID: <20031022192846.GA9759@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <41.357a3d64.2cc82328@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41.357a3d64.2cc82328@aol.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof: = In a message dated 10/22/2003 12:10:56 PM, 14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET writes: = = >And he wails -- you can hear it when you pull up sometimes. It's so sad. = > = You also need to remember that dogs are superb imitators of their owners! = Theo Jeez, Theo, you can really be such a bitch some days. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 14:44:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9MJiT6q028497 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:44:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 12E2F1E601CD; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:42:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 609731E601D1 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:42:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A17C4B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:35:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14630270 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:35:19 -0400 Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9MJZIq29585 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:35:18 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1ca.12ecba9f (3996) for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:34:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1ca.12ecba9f.2cc835db@aol.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:34:51 EDT Subject: Re: Pup in the woods To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/22/2003 12:25:55 PM, 14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET writes: >I try not to let him know that I think it's sad. Is that what you are saying? > You don't need to let him know anything; he already knows! What I'm saying was is that he copies your behavior, keep that in mind. None of my dogs ever whined or fuzzed, they may have been naughty at times because they resented me being somewhere without taking them too, but never whined. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 17:27:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9MMRM6q030102 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:27:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4C6DF1E601DD; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:25:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EE141E601DB for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:25:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1828A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:18:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14645197 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:18:11 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9MMIAq25042 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:18:10 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.168.27]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031022221805.MYHS1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:18:05 -0400 Message-ID: <3F97021D.B2A0C335@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:18:05 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cats References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > There's a Catholic Church very > near that convenience store. > > you can buy bottles of holy water. At the convenience store or at the church? I forgot to ask my Catholic friends at lunch about holy water because we were involved in lots of weighty discussions of various kinds. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 17:34:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9MMYT6q030221 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:34:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A41F01E601D8; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:32:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73D531E601D7 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:32:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A182A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:25:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14645508 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:25:18 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9MMPIq25861 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:25:18 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.168.27]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031022222512.NAXX1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:25:12 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9703C8.22D6C9CF@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:25:12 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pickering References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen wrote: > > The wonderful Tavis Smiley dealt with Mississippi politics this morning, and > mentioned that there hasn't been a black elected to statewide office in > Mississippi since reconstruction. He was mostly focusing on the Lt. > Governor's race and Barbour's apparently use of the race card. This is true and is one reason it's so very unfortunate that Barbara Blackmon pretty much blew her chances (which had been quite good) by that stupid abortion comment. Mississippi has more black elected officials than any other state, but they're local. Wait -- I just thought of something. I had thought that our State Treasurer, Gary Anderson, was black. I guess not, since I've heard it said that we don't have any state-wide elected black officials. I don't remember having seen a picture of him. > More to the > point, though, he had an interesting interview with columnist Eric > Stringfellow of the Clarion-Ledger. I checked Stringfellow's archives; he > doesn't seem to have written on the Pickering matter, but this article from > the paper suggests that Pickering's support among blacks around the state is > not very high: > > http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0303/11/m06.html I don't think Pickering's support among Democrats in general in Mississippi is high. I was surprised at what appeared to be so much support for him among blacks in his home counties (Jones and Forrest). That has appeared to be downright support -- as in wanting him to be appointed. I don't want him to be appointed. I just think the accusations of racism are bogus. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 17:40:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9MMel6q030312 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:40:48 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 077DB1E601DD; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:38:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA1131E601D8 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:38:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A182B3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:31:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14645810 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:31:36 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9MMVaq26545 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:31:36 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.168.27]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031022223131.NDKB1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:31:31 -0400 Message-ID: <3F970542.EE3B7050@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:31:30 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pickering References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen wrote: > Governor's race and Barbour's apparently use of the race card. More to the I meant to ask in my previous reply: What did he say about Barbour's use of the race card? I know that Barbour has been catching flak in relation to that racist organization -- CCC?? -- that was also somehow involved in Trent Lott's crash. Apparently they have Barbour's picture on their website, and he has said that he would not ask any group to remove his picture. Is that what he was talking about? I can't see that as "using the race card." It's hurting him, not helping him. I don't think that there would be many voters, even Republicans who socialize in lily-white worlds and wouldn't want their children dating blacks, who would condone the attitudes of that organization. I've forgotten its name and where its headquarters are. It's some kind of white-supremacy group. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 17:47:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9MMl76q030422 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:47:10 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D53351E601DD; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:44:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2DCF1E601DB for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:44:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A182EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:37:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14646126 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:37:53 -0400 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9MMbrq27323 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:37:53 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.13.23bcde19 (16335) for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:37:42 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <13.23bcde19.2cc860b5@aol.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:37:41 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Cats To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/22/2003 5:18:29 PM Central Daylight Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << Evelyn Duncan wrote: > There's a Catholic Church very > near that convenience store. > > you can buy bottles of holy water. At the convenience store or at the church? >> At any Catholic bookstore. I'd love to find an old Latin-English Missal, but the bookstore here has the English-only ones. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 17:50:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9MMoQ6q030455 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:50:26 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CCEB51E601DE; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:48:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E9641E601DD for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:48:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A182D9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:41:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14646252 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:41:15 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9MMfFq27663 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:41:15 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.168.27]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031022224110.NGUM1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:41:10 -0400 Message-ID: <3F970785.5B85BA4C@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:41:09 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pup in the woods References: <93e6292ecf.92ecf93e62@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > So I'm very worried about him. I don't know what to do. He'll adjust. He really will. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 17:54:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9MMsF6q030515 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:54:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DEAE31E601DD; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:51:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFD001E601D8 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:51:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A18301@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:45:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14646406 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:45:04 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9MMj4q28062 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:45:04 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.168.27]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031022224459.NIGH1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:44:59 -0400 Message-ID: <3F97086A.186FD777@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:44:58 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pup in the woods References: <1ca.12ecba9f.2cc835db@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > What I'm saying was is that he copies your behavior, keep that in mind. None > of my dogs ever whined or fuzzed, they may have been naughty at times because > they resented me being somewhere without taking them too, but never whined. Of course! We should have figured that out right away. He's whining because Marie is such a whiner, and your dogs didn't whine because you are so clearly a non-whiner. The situation is crystal-clear now. I do wonder, though, about Spencer and that couch he ate. I hadn't realized that he sensed my love of eating couches. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 18:02:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9MN2X6q030641 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:02:33 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B51BC1E601DE; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:00:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45B821E601D8 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:00:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A18316@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:53:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14646733 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:53:13 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9MMrDq28765 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:53:13 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.168.27]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031022225308.NKZT1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:53:08 -0400 Message-ID: <3F970A4F.4D171AEC@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:53:03 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cats References: <13.23bcde19.2cc860b5@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > At any Catholic bookstore. Oh dear. There's no religious bookstore of any brand here. But re the cats -- I'm happy to report that I saw both of them when I went over to feed and water them this afternoon. And the one who sometimes stays inside seemed content to stay outside, although I could tell that it would not have been hard for me to get him/her to come inside. I avoided that since the weather is beautiful (and he/she can go under the house or onto the back porch if desirous of shelter) and since that means the kitty litter won't get used right away. I hope all is still well with the cats when I go tomorrow morning. This afternoon was my first feeding since the owner fed them this morning before leaving town. I didn't ask him about times when he said twice a day. I plan to feed them every morning between 6:30 and 7:00, but my afternoon times may have to vary a bit. Tomorrow, for example, I'll do it around 3:00 and then get dressed for the fancy political party I'm one of the hosts of. It starts at 4:00. Friday, though, I have to be at a talk on campus at 3:00 and thus will have to feed them later. I trust they can handle the variations in the afternoon feeding times. And wait -- it's this weekend that the time changes, right? More confusion. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 18:02:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9MN2w6q030655 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:02:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 113F91E601D8; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:00:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEAA31E601DE for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:00:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A18323@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:53:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14646755 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:53:41 -0400 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9MMrfq28800 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:53:41 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9MMrd1R020498 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:53:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F970A34.60505@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:52:36 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pup in the woods References: <93e6292ecf.92ecf93e62@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Viszlas having short coats, I don't think you'll need to worry about Laszlo fuzzing. Separation anxiety is extremely difficult to deal with. You may need to give him a doggie anti-depressant while at the same time doing behavior mod. Have you talked to the breeder about it? Belle, our last foster dog, had a bad case of it (bent and broke *two* crate doors), but she did get over it within a couple of weeks. There is hope! Get him barricaded in the crate somehow; otherwise, he'll wreck whatever room he's confined in. Marie Ascher wrote: >>He might not really be anxious after you're not there to witness the >>whimpering. Dogs are good actors. >> > > Oh, no, he leaves evidence. He actually got out of his crate by bending the metal until it broke off -- and this was the "Super Deluxe" model. An 18 lb puppy should not be able to do this. > > And he wails -- you can hear it when you pull up sometimes. It's so sad. > > Now, since he's crateless, he's in his own room, where I laid down a vinyl flooring remnant. The dog-walker just called me to say he's done a number on the room. > > So I'm very worried about him. I don't know what to do. > > Marie > > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 18:22:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9MNMl6q030878 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:22:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E159F1E601DE; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:20:29 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1C151E601E1 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:20:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A18377@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:13:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14647740 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:13:35 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9MNDZq30842 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:13:35 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.168.27]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031022231329.WLRC1789.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:13:29 -0400 Message-ID: <3F970F17.21A62360@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:13:27 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: State Treasurer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just did some googling and found that Gary Anderson is indeed black but that he was "state fiscal officer," whatever that means, not state treasurer. He is now running for state treasurer. This was written before the primaries (he won his): http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0308/02/lminor.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 18:41:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9MNfd6q031021 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:41:39 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 240721E601E2; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:39:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ADC21E601E1 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:39:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A183CB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:32:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14648564 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:32:24 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9MNWOq32554 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:32:24 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.168.27]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031022233218.KOII1828.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:32:18 -0400 Message-ID: <3F971382.E74C5DD2@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:32:18 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: CCC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU CCC = Council of Conservative Citizens. It's based in St. Louis. And sure enough, Haley is right there on their top screen: http://www.cofcc.org/ -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 18:49:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9MNnP6q031066 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:49:26 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9D48D1E601E6; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:47:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B6B81E601E5 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:47:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A183E9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:40:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14648822 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:40:13 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9MNeDq00753 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:40:13 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 834772B61A; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 16:40:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A1E82B613 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 16:40:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 16:40:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CCC In-Reply-To: <3F971382.E74C5DD2@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 22 Oct 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > CCC = Council of Conservative Citizens. It's based in St. Louis. And > sure enough, Haley is right there on their top screen: > Makes me think of KKK. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 18:58:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9MNws6q031161 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:58:54 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E40601E601E5; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:56:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B58FB1E601E4 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:56:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A183F2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:49:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14649065 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:49:42 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9MNngq01469 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:49:42 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-177.gwi.net [216.195.153.177]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9MNndAt029184; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:49:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031022194815.00b4a668@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:49:35 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: CCC In-Reply-To: <3F971382.E74C5DD2@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:32 PM 10/22/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >CCC = Council of Conservative Citizens. It's based in St. Louis. And >sure enough, Haley is right there on their top screen: Interesting that they have adopted (usurped?) the initials of one of FDR's great liberal programs. But then, conservatives have never been known for their originality. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 19:11:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N0B06q031305 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:11:03 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 097171E601E5; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:08:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFED61E601E4 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:08:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A18427@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:01:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14649502 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:01:45 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N01jq02402 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:01:45 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.168.27]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031023000140.ECJC1822.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:01:40 -0400 Message-ID: <3F971A63.84D3A8E2@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:01:39 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CCC References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin wrote: > > CCC = Council of Conservative Citizens. It's based in St. Louis. And > > sure enough, Haley is right there on their top screen: > > > Makes me think of KKK. Indeedy. That is perhaps intentional on their part. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 19:12:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N0C66q031326 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:12:06 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 41C301E601E5; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:09:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13C461E601E1 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:09:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1842B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:02:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14649541 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:02:55 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N02sq02493 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:02:54 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.168.27]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031023000249.ECWZ1822.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:02:49 -0400 Message-ID: <3F971AA9.40DA371C@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:02:49 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CCC References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031022194815.00b4a668@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > Interesting that they have adopted (usurped?) the initials of one of FDR's > great liberal programs. But then, conservatives have never been known for > their originality. But then maybe they were thinking of College Composition and Communication, which is also CCC. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 19:20:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N0KO6q031349 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:20:24 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 854111E601E6; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:18:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52D3B1E601E5 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:18:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A18441@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:11:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14649916 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:11:12 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N0BCq03298 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:11:12 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.168.27]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031023001106.EGKZ1822.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:11:06 -0400 Message-ID: <3F971C9A.9C25E0B@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:11:06 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Att: Bonniemae Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU When I said that our lunch group today was discussing weighty matters, I wasn't totally joking (though we did return a bit to the question of radiating underwear to detect sperm -- but our sometimes-present biologist wasn't there today, so we dropped that pretty quickly). Among other topics, we were talking about the vegetative woman in Florida. And this brings us to my subject header. With your background in medical ethics, what do you think is the right thing to do in this case? Somebody also mentioned a case sometime in the past involving a comatose man and total agreement among family members that he should not be kept on life-support but his wife wanted some sperm from his body to be impregnated with. Apparently there was a problem since a sperm donor has to give permission, but somehow they managed to get around that and grab the sperm before turning off his life-support. Somebody today, I think it was our Polish physicist -- i.e., she's a physicist from Poland -- she isn't tall and skinny, said, "What would she tell the child?" I said that she would tell the child the truth when he/she was old enough to understand such things. That led us to talking about playground taunts like, "Your father was a corpse." But he was still alive when he gave the sperm, just not when she was impregnated with it. And how is that different from other frozen sperm? That last paragraph is kind of a digression. I'm mainly interested in your views on the Florida case. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 19:29:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N0Th6q031394 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:29:43 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6C62A1E601E4; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:27:25 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D9D11E601E6 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:27:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A18457@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:20:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14650321 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:20:31 -0400 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N0KUq04176 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:20:31 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.c1.3831425a (3996) for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:19:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:19:38 EDT Subject: Re: Pup in the woods To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/22/2003 1:29:11 PM, stevie@MULTINIX.COM writes: >Jeez, Theo, you can really be such a bitch some days. Why? Did I say anything insulting to anyone? Wondering, Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 19:30:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N0US6q031418 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:30:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9E78F1E601E6; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:28:10 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C6EA1E601E4 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:28:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1846A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:21:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14649922 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:21:16 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N0BGq03309 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:11:16 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9N0AoPi014419 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:10:51 -0400 Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:11:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: CC KKK etcetcetc Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Is this words-effing-l or effing alphabet soup? I'm gone! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 19:36:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N0a56q031464 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:36:05 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E8F651E601E7; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:33:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA6F91E601E4 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:33:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001B7B13@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:26:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14650575 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:26:53 -0400 Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N0Qrq04696 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:26:53 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.ca.237474a9 (3996) for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:25:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:25:51 EDT Subject: Re: Att: Bonniemae To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/22/2003 6:11:49 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >I'm mainly interested in >your views on the Florida case. I saw the woman on TV tonight, and I think it's a crime to keep her alive in that kind of condition. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 19:39:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N0d76q031484 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:39:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 139CD1E601E5; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:36:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D60551E601E4 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:36:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A18496@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:29:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14650676 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:29:55 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N0Ttq04991 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:29:55 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9N0Tt8b026138 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:29:55 -0400 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9N0TtfC008296 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:29:55 -0400 Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:29:45 -0400 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: Bonniemae Message-ID: <533118187.1066854585@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <3F971C9A.9C25E0B@maynor.net> References: <3F971C9A.9C25E0B@maynor.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --On Wednesday, October 22, 2003 7:11 PM -0500 Natalie Maynor wrote: > Among > other topics, we were talking about the vegetative woman in Florida. I just finished reading about this and found this such a compelling reason to have a living will. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 19:52:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N0qJ6q031629 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:52:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B63C01E601EC; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:50:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 875461E601EB for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:50:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A184C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:43:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14651179 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:43:07 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N0h6q06132 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:43:06 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-175.inebraska.com [206.222.202.175]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9N0h3th020745 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:43:05 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <002301c398fe$82c6fd20$afcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3F971C9A.9C25E0B@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Att: Bonniemae Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:42:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > That last paragraph is kind of a digression. I'm mainly interested in > your views on the Florida case. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) If I were the spouse I would want out of the commitment. If I were the parent . . . .??? Something in parents makes that love and responsibility so strong it just can't be broken. A mixed blessing. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 19:59:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N0xE6q031706 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:59:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CF4F61E601EC; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:56:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FB741E601EA for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:56:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A184EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:50:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14651558 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:50:02 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N0o2q06856 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:50:02 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.168.27]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031023004957.PVK1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:49:57 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9725B4.DDF41BA4@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:49:56 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: Bonniemae References: <3F971C9A.9C25E0B@maynor.net> <533118187.1066854585@TWild.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Terry Wild wrote: > I just finished reading about this and found this such a compelling reason > to have a living will. Yes. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 20:03:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N13a6q031744 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:03:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 452021E601EE; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:01:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 161FC1E601ED for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:01:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A184F6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:54:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14651795 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:54:23 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N0sNq07252 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:54:23 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-177.gwi.net [216.195.153.177]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9N0sLGn089255 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:54:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031022205200.00b257e8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:54:27 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Att: Bonniemae In-Reply-To: <3F971C9A.9C25E0B@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >That last paragraph is kind of a digression. I'm mainly interested in >your views on the Florida case. -- Natalie I haven't been following it closely. But one thing I'm certain of -- Jeb Bush should stay the hell out of it. The right thing to do is to follow what the woman herself would want, if only she could tell us. One would have to know something about the relationship she had with her husband vs. with her parents. I would want to know which would be most likely to know what she herself would have wanted. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 20:03:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N13m6q031748 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:03:48 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 11F471E601EA; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:01:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D72591E601E8 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:01:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001B7B91@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:54:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14651811 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:54:33 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f9.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.9]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N0sXq07270 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:54:33 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:54:27 -0700 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 00:54:27 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Pickering Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:54:27 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Oct 2003 00:54:27.0576 (UTC) FILETIME=[35A80780:01C39900] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor >I meant to ask in my previous reply: What did he say about Barbour's >use of the race card? I know that Barbour has been catching flak in A couple of things. First, that although in MS the gov and lt. gov run independently of one another, Barbour has been at great lengths to tie Blackmon (sp?) with the gubernatorial candidate. This, the interview implied, is intended to energize the white, racist vote. Next, apparently some television ads (it wasn't clear to me whether these are Barbour's or the lt. gov candidate's ads, use some sort of slow motion and graphics effect to emphasize the letters B L A C K in Blackmon's name. Furthermore, according to the interviewee, there's quite a bit of old fashioned rhetoric about "our way of life," etc., which generally sounds like racist code. _________________________________________________________________ Surf and talk on the phone at the same time with broadband Internet access. Get high-speed for as low as $29.95/month (depending on the local service providers in your area). https://broadband.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 20:04:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N14g6q031762 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:04:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 792911E601EA; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:02:24 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BF131E601E7 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:02:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001B7B8F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:55:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14651865 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:55:30 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N0tTq07366 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:55:30 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.168.27]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031023005525.RVT1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:55:25 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9726FC.303DD28@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:55:24 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: Bonniemae References: <3F971C9A.9C25E0B@maynor.net> <002301c398fe$82c6fd20$afcadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > If I were the spouse I would want out of the commitment. > > If I were the parent . . . .??? Something in > parents makes that love and responsibility so strong it just can't be > broken. A mixed > blessing. That is exactly what we were talking about today -- that it's easy to understand the parents' desire to keep her alive. We talked about how maybe the husband could get a divorce from her and the parents could stick with her. Then it was mentioned that the husband stands to inherit a good bit of money from her. (I don't know whether that's true. I haven't followed the details of this story closely.) That makes it an odd case, not necessarily because money is a major factor -- as in the husband might sincerely believe that she would be better off dead and not be after her money. But if she wanted her husband to inherit her money, it comes back to the question of what is right for her. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 20:07:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N17Y6q031826 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:07:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 617731E601E8; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:05:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 302E61E601E7 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:05:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A18514@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:58:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14651996 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:58:22 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f63.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.63]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N0wLq07710 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:58:21 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:58:16 -0700 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 00:58:16 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Cats Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:58:16 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Oct 2003 00:58:16.0496 (UTC) FILETIME=[BE1A7300:01C39900] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I've changed my mind. I'm not selling holy water. However, I am contemplating starting up a line of either damned or cursed water. I need to run a few focus groups to decide on the best name. By the way, I wonder why nobody has started selling a line called "Wholly Water" (emphasizing the purity, lack of additives, etc.). And why, I wonder, do I waste my time laboring among the freelancers, when clearly I should be working for a really sleazy ad agency.... >From: Evelyn Duncan >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Cats >Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:37:41 EDT > >In a message dated 10/22/2003 5:18:29 PM Central Daylight Time, >natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: ><< >Evelyn Duncan wrote: > > There's a Catholic Church very > > near that convenience store. > > > > you can buy bottles of holy water. > >At the convenience store or at the church? > >> > >At any Catholic bookstore. > >I'd love to find an old Latin-English Missal, but >the bookstore here has the English-only ones. > >Evelyn Duncan >brandykitt@aol.com >Mongo only pawn in game of life. _________________________________________________________________ Want to check if your PC is virus-infected? Get a FREE computer virus scan online from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 20:07:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N17p6q031829 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:07:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CC14F1E601EA; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:05:33 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E3411E601E7 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:05:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001B7BA2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:58:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14652012 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:58:39 -0400 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N0wcq07732 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:58:39 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9N0wb1R023532 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F972778.4030002@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:57:29 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CCC References: <3F971382.E74C5DD2@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Good lord. It's always the fucking race thing in St. Louis. I'm getting tired of it. The KKK is out sticking flyers in mailboxes again. Natalie Maynor wrote: > CCC = Council of Conservative Citizens. It's based in St. Louis. And > sure enough, Haley is right there on their top screen: > > http://www.cofcc.org/ > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 20:08:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N17w6q031833 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:08:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ACABB1E601EA; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:05:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D8121E601ED for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:05:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A18516@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:58:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14652016 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:58:43 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N0whq07744 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:58:43 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-177.gwi.net [216.195.153.177]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9N0wVAr044199 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:58:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031022205502.00b937d0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:58:37 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Att: Bonniemae In-Reply-To: <533118187.1066854585@TWild.uri.edu> References: <3F971C9A.9C25E0B@maynor.net> <3F971C9A.9C25E0B@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I just finished reading about this and found this such a compelling reason >to have a living will. --Terry I think it's more important to have a physician who is going to honor your living will. And then you mus make certain to get critically ill under the supervision of that physician. And then make sure that no interfering relative, or just a community do-gooder, steps in and try to tell the physician or the hospital that they shouldn't honor your living will. You best shot might be a spouse who is willing to sneak into your hospital room, disable the alarm, and pull the plug. Or take his or her time in calling the ambulance. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 20:10:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N1AQ6q031846 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:10:26 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 85D7C1E601ED; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:08:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 543871E601EA for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:08:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A18522@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:01:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14652129 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:00:32 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N10Wq07983 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:00:32 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-177.gwi.net [216.195.153.177]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9N10UGn090182 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:00:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031022210007.00b93590@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:00:35 -0400 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: bonniev Subject: another word for Borkin Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Here's a nice word: deshabille bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 20:10:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N1Ar6q031849 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:10:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C2EFD1E601EA; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:08:35 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9564E1E601E7 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:08:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A18517@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:01:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14652150 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:01:41 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f18.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N11fq08061 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:01:41 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:01:35 -0700 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 01:01:35 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: State Treasurer Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:01:35 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Oct 2003 01:01:35.0734 (UTC) FILETIME=[34DBC160:01C39901] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The fiscal officer position was probably something like comptroller, and was presumably an appointed rather than elected position. >From: Natalie Maynor >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: State Treasurer >Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:13:27 -0500 > >I just did some googling and found that Gary Anderson is indeed black >but that he was "state fiscal officer," whatever that means, not state >treasurer. He is now running for state treasurer. > >This was written before the primaries (he won his): > >http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0308/02/lminor.html > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) _________________________________________________________________ Want to check if your PC is virus-infected? Get a FREE computer virus scan online from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 20:14:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N1E26q031870 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:14:05 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8A8AD1E601EA; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:11:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54D921E601E8 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:11:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1851E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:04:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14652233 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:04:47 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N14kq08382 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:04:46 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-177.gwi.net [216.195.153.177]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9N14fGn090909 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:04:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031022210225.00b9de78@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:04:46 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Att: Bonniemae In-Reply-To: <3F9726FC.303DD28@maynor.net> References: <3F971C9A.9C25E0B@maynor.net> <002301c398fe$82c6fd20$afcadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >That is exactly what we were talking about today -- that it's easy to >understand the parents' desire to keep her alive. > -- Natalie Although it is not at all the same thing, this reminds me of the neonatal nurse at Shands Hospital in Gainesville, Florida who told me I would understand better how hard it is to allow a severely defective newborn to die if I just held this baby for awhile. So I held the baby and even gave her the afternoon feeding. Then I told the nurse that after that experience I felt all the more strongly that the infant should be allowed to peacefully die. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 20:17:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N1HG6q031924 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:17:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C11EA1E601ED; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:14:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B0F1E601EA for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:14:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A18526@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:08:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14652322 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:08:01 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N181q08756 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:08:01 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.168.27]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031023010755.SJCL1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:07:55 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9729EB.1B5C4811@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:07:55 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pickering References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen wrote: > A couple of things. First, that although in MS the gov and lt. gov run > independently of one another, Barbour has been at great lengths to tie > Blackmon (sp?) with the gubernatorial candidate. This, the interview > implied, is intended to energize the white, racist vote. Next, apparently > some television ads (it wasn't clear to me whether these are Barbour's or > the lt. gov candidate's ads, use some sort of slow motion and graphics > effect to emphasize the letters B L A C K in Blackmon's name. Furthermore, > according to the interviewee, there's quite a bit of old fashioned rhetoric > about "our way of life," etc., which generally sounds like racist code. Could be. I haven't seen any such ads, but I don't know what's on tv. I've seen only one political ad on tv (a Tuck ad), though I've heard that they are constant. I've gotten tons of mailed ads from the Barbour campaign, but they've been talking about how Musgrove is for drugs since he cut the drug-fighting budget, that he "supported Albert Gore" -- sin of sins, that X number of jobs were lost while he was Gov. The one about the jobs is getting very old since both candidates are saying the same stuff over and over and over -- and they're both right, depending on how you twist the numbers. Under Musgrove's tenure, 56,000(?) new jobs were created, which he is constantly talking about. Barbour jumps in and says that under Musgrove 40,000(?) jobs were lost. Both are correct. Musgrove comes out ahead in the net gain/loss of jobs. But I think both of them assume (probably correctly, alas) that the voters aren't sharp enough to understand the arithmetic. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 20:18:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N1IG6q031938 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:18:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3F7131E601EF; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:15:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E5681E601EE for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:15:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1852E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:09:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14652399 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:09:03 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f56.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N193q08912 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:09:03 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:08:58 -0700 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 01:08:57 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Att: Bonniemae Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:08:57 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Oct 2003 01:08:58.0010 (UTC) FILETIME=[3C79B7A0:01C39902] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Doris Markland >If I were the spouse I would want out of the commitment. > >If I were the parent . . . .??? Something in >parents makes that love and responsibility so strong it just can't be >broken. A mixed >blessing. The husband has declined to divorce her because he fears, apparently correctly, that the dogmatic views of the parents are counter to his understanding of the woman's desires. I think that's an extremely courageous, loving, and responsible position. I think many of us would have washed our hands of this long ago. It may be an unpopular view (no surprise), but I don't buy the notion that parents have some special privilege in matters like this that exempts them from reason. Most of us wouldn't treat a dog this way, let alone a human being. The parents, the governor, and the legislature are, as Theo said, guilty of an egregious crime. _________________________________________________________________ Send instant messages to anyone on your contact list with MSN Messenger 6.0. Try it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 20:18:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N1IR6q031941 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:18:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 92D0F1E601EE; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:16:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6451D1E601EA for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:16:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1852F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:09:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14652409 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:09:15 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N19Fq08935 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:09:15 -0400 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2003102301090801200dke5he>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 01:09:09 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031022180754.03f00980@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:09:36 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Cats In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen writes, >By the way, I wonder why nobody has started selling a line called "Wholly >Water" Google when you say that, pardner -- Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 20:18:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N1IV6q031944 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:18:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C789C1E601ED; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:16:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98DDA1E601EA for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:16:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001B7BC8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:09:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14652413 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:09:19 -0400 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N19Jq08947 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:09:19 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9N19HOY026209 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:09:17 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3F9729F8.6000803@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:08:08 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fake Letters References: <200310171839.h9HIdnF07148@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Clo, this deserves a thoughtful reply, but I'm too burned out to give it one right now. I don't want you to feel that I'm blowing you off. I just have other stuff taking up my brain space right now. I'm supposed to be doing something about professional development at school, but I'm not sure what, solving the achievement gap (I AM SO FUCKING SICK OF TALKING ABOUT RACE), and writing a paper comparing Dewey to Coles with some Eco and Kozol and other stuff thrown in. I also have an inordinate number of troubled children assigned to me this year; I wish I was smart enough to figure them out better. They're all such good babies. Anyway, your points are all well taken, and I'm sure you're right, and I don't mean that in a snarky way at all. Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:43:11 -0500, Rita Chapman > wrote: > > >>Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>>People were indeed taught to obey, and not encouraged to think >>> independently; but given the number of people who think patently wrong >>> > and > >>> stupid things today as per the study we have been discussing, this is >>> > not a > >>> relevant point. >>> >> >> I think there is always a certain number of sheep -- we are >>herd animals (or tribal animals -- same thing), and some >>people will go along with what everybody else is doing. In >>the 40's, everybody else was joining or allowing themselves >>to be drafted. In the 60's, people were trying to evade the >>draft. >> >> I also think that there are always a large number of people >>who want to do what is right -- and will go along with the >>prevailing opinion of what that is. In the 40's, fighting >>was right. In the 60's, protesting for peace was right. >>Values had changed. That doesn't mean the men were any >>different -- they were mostly all trying to do what was >>right -- whatever that is. >> >> >> > > I maintain that evaluations of the past have changed more than the values > themselves did. In the 30's and 40's there was plenty of debate and > dissent; for instance, many argued that getting into the war was wrong. In > the 60's, protest was not generally seen as right. While there were young > people who approved of and were involved in protest (just as in , eg, the > 30's), most people condemned them as irresponsible and misguided. Sympathy > for the protest movement came primarily after the fact, as when (for > instance) my father belatedly realized that his troubled young parishioners > had been making truthful claims about Nixon's deceit, the illicit > incursions into Cambodia and Laos, etc, political corruption, etc. > > There are also other factors at play: for instance, the "next wave" backlash > against the idealism of the '30s and '60s is a factor in the difficulty in > getting a serious appraisal of events and attitudes of the times; but it > was also a factor in the increased willingness to ignore or belittle the > issues raised by activists, as well as (perhaps) an increased > militaristic volunteerism and concomitant decreased social volunteerism on > the part of cynical youths. > > Your point about draft evasion becoming the popular wave late in the Vietnam > era is well taken; even some sheep were doing it. Was it greater than in > WWII? I am not convinced the numbers will bear that assumption out. As > deaths mounted, shortages pinched more, and people learned of methods to > avoid the draft, it may well have become more popular to avoid "being > called". Then again, WWII involvement only lasted 4 years and a little. The > Vietnam draft ran much longer, and that was probably a factor in the > momentum against the war. > > It would be interesting to talk to an expert on the demographics of > conscription in that era.... The only historian I know in this field > focuses on the Civil War era, during which activism against - and > avoidance of - conscription was much stronger. > > clo > > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 20:26:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N1Qe6q032028 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:26:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 56C1E1E601E8; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:24:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB08F1E601E7 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:24:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A18555@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:17:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14652871 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:17:27 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f15.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N1HRq09695 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:17:27 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:17:21 -0700 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 01:17:21 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Att: Bonniemae Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:17:21 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Oct 2003 01:17:21.0631 (UTC) FILETIME=[68A82EF0:01C39903] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This assertion that the husband "stands to inherit money" sounds like right wing hate radio tripe. I'd like to see a source. She's been in a vegetative state for 13 years. She must have been extremely wealthy if there's any money left after 13 years of medical care. >From: Natalie Maynor >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Att: Bonniemae >Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:55:24 -0500 > >Doris Markland wrote: > > > If I were the spouse I would want out of the commitment. > > > > If I were the parent . . . .??? Something in > > parents makes that love and responsibility so strong it just can't be > > broken. A mixed > > blessing. > >That is exactly what we were talking about today -- that it's easy to >understand the parents' desire to keep her alive. We talked about how >maybe the husband could get a divorce from her and the parents could >stick with her. Then it was mentioned that the husband stands to >inherit a good bit of money from her. (I don't know whether that's >true. I haven't followed the details of this story closely.) That >makes it an odd case, not necessarily because money is a major factor -- >as in the husband might sincerely believe that she would be better off >dead and not be after her money. But if she wanted her husband to >inherit her money, it comes back to the question of what is right for >her. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) _________________________________________________________________ Concerned that messages may bounce because your Hotmail account has exceeded its 2MB storage limit? Get Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 20:27:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N1R86q032034 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:27:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2FCA81E601F0; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:24:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01A5B1E601EF for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:24:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001B7BFB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:17:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14652877 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:17:52 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N1Hqq09712 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:17:52 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-177.gwi.net [216.195.153.177]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9N1HoAr048186 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:17:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031022211712.00b9d980@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:17:56 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: CCC In-Reply-To: <3F972778.4030002@swbell.net> References: <3F971382.E74C5DD2@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Good lord. It's always the fucking race thing in St. Louis. > I'm getting tired of it. The KKK is out sticking flyers >in mailboxes again. Rita Rouvalis Chapman The race thing has just come up in Maine. But the race in question is the red one. It has come up in connection with the controversial casino question. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 20:30:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N1Ua6q032066 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:30:36 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D4A511E601ED; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:28:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A053A1E601EA for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:28:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1857C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:21:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14653017 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:21:24 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f95.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.95]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N1LOq10036 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:21:24 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:21:18 -0700 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 01:21:18 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Cats Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:21:18 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Oct 2003 01:21:18.0574 (UTC) FILETIME=[F5E2D0E0:01C39903] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU aaarghargle >From: Peter Kaminski > >Google when you say that, pardner -- > > > >Pete _________________________________________________________________ Cheer a special someone with a fun Halloween eCard from American Greetings! Go to http://www.msn.americangreetings.com/index_msn.pd?source=msne134 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 20:34:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N1YQ6q032125 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:34:26 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A93981E601EA; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:32:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B37A1E601E7 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:32:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A18572@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:25:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14653193 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:25:11 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N1PBq10545 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:25:11 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.168.27]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031023012505.RURD1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:25:05 -0400 Message-ID: <3F972DF1.2CAD37AC@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:25:05 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CCC References: <3F971382.E74C5DD2@maynor.net> <3F972778.4030002@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > > Good lord. It's always the fucking race thing in St. Louis. > I'm getting tired of it. The KKK is out sticking flyers > in mailboxes again. Race is naturally something that comes up in Mississippi at times because of the history. But the idea of an active KKK stuffing mailboxes with flyers strikes me as way weird. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 20:35:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N1ZN6q032129 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:35:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7A4BC1E601ED; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:33:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C6161E601EA for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:33:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A18586@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:26:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14653233 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:26:11 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N1QAq10680 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:26:10 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.168.27]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031023012605.RVDV1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:26:05 -0400 Message-ID: <3F972E2D.BFADB42B@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:26:05 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cats References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen wrote: > why nobody has started selling a line called "Wholly Water" (emphasizing the I feel confident that somebody has. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 20:37:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N1bH6q032144 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:37:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9DE631E601EA; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:34:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DC7F1E601E8 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:34:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001B7C20@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:28:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14653322 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:28:05 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N1S4q10932 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:28:04 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-175.inebraska.com [206.222.202.175]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9N1Rxth019404 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:28:03 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000801c39904$ca9cd2e0$afcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: Att: Bonniemae Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:27:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > The husband has declined to divorce her because he fears, apparently > correctly, that the dogmatic views of the parents are counter to his > understanding of the woman's desires. I think that's an extremely > courageous, loving, and responsible position. I think many of us would have > washed our hands of this long ago. > > It may be an unpopular view (no surprise), but I don't buy the notion that > parents have some special privilege in matters like this that exempts them > from reason. Most of us wouldn't treat a dog this way, let alone a human > being. The parents, the governor, and the legislature are, as Theo said, > guilty of an egregious crime. I don't think they have a special privilege either concerning a grown child who has her own life. Yet, the patient doesn't have her own life at this point . . she's out of it . . and the parents probably revert to feeling responsible somehow. And if they okay pulling the plug they will feel guilty all their lives, and they know that . . and they love her. I'm not saying it's right for them to stall, just saying it's a hard situation. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 20:38:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N1ci6q032160 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:38:44 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001B7C0C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:29:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14653357 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:29:08 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N1T8q11063 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:29:08 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.168.27]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031023012854.RWNC1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:28:54 -0400 Message-ID: <3F972ED6.54BCC67@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:28:54 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: Bonniemae References: <3F971C9A.9C25E0B@maynor.net> <3F971C9A.9C25E0B@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022205502.00b937d0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > I think it's more important to have a physician who is going to honor your > living will. How is a living will different from having "don't resuscitate" in a patient's chart? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 20:40:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N1e06q032174 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:40:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3B24B1E601ED; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:37:42 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DFF21E601EA for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:37:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A185A5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:30:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14653434 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:30:47 -0400 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9N1Ujq11270 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:30:45 -0400 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:30:42 PDT Message-ID: <20031023013042.33712.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:30:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Att: Bonniemae To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F971C9A.9C25E0B@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > That last paragraph is kind of a digression. I'm > mainly interested in > your views on the Florida case. It's the best argument I can think of for preparing a living will upon reaching legal age. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 20:41:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N1fC6q032188 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:41:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D411F1E601EA; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:38:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A50E11E601E8 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:38:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1859C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:32:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14653483 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:32:00 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N1W0q11370 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:32:00 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.168.27]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031023013149.RXVN1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:31:49 -0400 Message-ID: <3F972F85.E5D9FDCF@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:31:49 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: State Treasurer References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen wrote: > > The fiscal officer position was probably something like comptroller, and was > presumably an appointed rather than elected position. Yes, it was clearly not an elected position. I certainly hope he gets elected since what I've read/heard about his financial skills sounds quite good. The fact that he's a Democrat makes it even better, of course. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 20:47:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N1lL6q032212 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:47:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9081E1E601EE; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:45:03 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 605611E601E7 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:45:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001B7C4F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:38:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14653768 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:38:02 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N1c2q12006 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:38:02 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.168.27]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031023013756.SAPU1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:37:56 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9730F4.3C53D4CD@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:37:56 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: Bonniemae References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen wrote: > > This assertion that the husband "stands to inherit money" sounds like right > wing hate radio tripe. I'd like to see a source. She's been in a > vegetative state for 13 years. She must have been extremely wealthy if > there's any money left after 13 years of medical care. Right-wing hate radio tripe? I don't think so. As I said earlier, I haven't followed the case closely. The money thing arose today at lunch when the question was asked (after we'd been talking about his divorcing her and letting her parents take over) whether he was to inherit from her. Somebody said, "Yes. Lots." He did not give his source. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 20:48:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N1m76q032233 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:48:08 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D0A1B1E601EE; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:45:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A02FB1E601EA for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:45:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A185CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:38:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14653818 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:38:55 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N1ctq12111 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:38:55 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.168.27]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031023013850.SAZW1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:38:50 -0400 Message-ID: <3F973129.88EC5B74@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:38:49 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CCC References: <3F971382.E74C5DD2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022211712.00b9d980@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > red one. It has come up in connection with the controversial casino question. What is your controversial casino question? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 20:48:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N1ml6q032239 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:48:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 038361E601EA; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:46:29 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9E911E601E8 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:46:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001B7C54@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:39:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14653833 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:39:34 -0400 Received: from web20511.mail.yahoo.com (web20511.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.150]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9N1dYq12154 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:39:34 -0400 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20511.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:39:33 PDT Message-ID: <20031023013933.56656.qmail@web20511.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:39:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Att: Bonniemae To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F9726FC.303DD28@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Then it was mentioned that the > husband stands to > inherit a good bit of money from her. (I don't know > whether that's > true. I haven't followed the details of this story > closely.) That > makes it an odd case, not necessarily because money > is a major factor -- > as in the husband might sincerely believe that she > would be better off > dead and not be after her money. But if she wanted > her husband to > inherit her money, it comes back to the question of > what is right for > her. This poor creature has been in this condition for THIRTEEN years. If the husband wre interested ONLY in the money, he would have found a way to get at it by now. There are legal arrangements for this type of situation. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 20:49:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N1n46q032243 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:49:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B84051E601E8; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:46:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 888E61E601E7 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:46:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A185C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:39:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14653853 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:39:52 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N1dpq12175 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:39:52 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9N1dp8b027983 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:39:51 -0400 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9N1dpfC018488 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:39:51 -0400 Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:39:42 -0400 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: Bonniemae Message-ID: <537314750.1066858782@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031022205502.00b937d0@pop.gwi.net> References: <3F971C9A.9C25E0B@maynor.net> <3F971C9A.9C25E0B@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022205502.00b937d0@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I think it's more important to have a physician who is going to honor your > living will. And then you mus make certain to get critically ill under > the supervision of that physician. And then make sure that no interfering > relative, or just a community do-gooder, steps in and try to tell the > physician or the hospital that they shouldn't honor your living will. > > You best shot might be a spouse who is willing to sneak into your hospital > room, disable the alarm, and pull the plug. Or take his or her time in > calling the ambulance. > > > bonnie I am at a loss at what to say to this, sadly knowing the points you bring up are valid. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 20:50:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N1oJ6q032278 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:50:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8803E1E601EB; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:48:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59CF81E601EA for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:48:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A185D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:41:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14653883 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:41:07 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N1f7q12257 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:41:07 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.168.27]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031023014101.SBYT1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:41:01 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9731AD.C613A2E3@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:41:01 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: Bonniemae References: <000801c39904$ca9cd2e0$afcadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > I don't think they have a special privilege either concerning a grown > child who has her own life. Yet, the patient doesn't have her own > life at this point . . she's out of it . . and the parents probably > revert > to feeling responsible somehow. And if they okay pulling the plug > they will feel guilty all their lives, and they know that . . and they > love her. I'm not saying it's right for them to stall, just saying it's > a hard situation. Well-said. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 20:52:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N1qA6q032300 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:52:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 48FCB1E601ED; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:49:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA2D1E601EB for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:49:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A185D0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:42:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14653970 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:42:54 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N1goq12411 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:42:50 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.168.27]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031023014244.SCUW1828.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:42:44 -0400 Message-ID: <3F97320B.F506D78A@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:42:35 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: Bonniemae References: <20031023013933.56656.qmail@web20511.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > This poor creature has been in this condition for > THIRTEEN years. If the husband wre interested ONLY in > the money, he would have found a way to get at it by > now. There are legal arrangements for this type of situation. Right. It wouldn't make any sense for anybody to say that he is interested ONLY in the money. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 20:55:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N1tW6q032325 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:55:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 491AB1E601EB; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:53:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16DC51E601EF for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:53:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A185EF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:46:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14654153 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:46:19 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f43.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.43]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N1kJq12875 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:46:19 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:46:13 -0700 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 01:46:13 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: cui bono Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:46:13 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Oct 2003 01:46:13.0761 (UTC) FILETIME=[71163F10:01C39907] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I spoke too soon on the Schiavo matter. Apparently there was a malpractice suit that awarded the woman 700,000 (google this and you'll find a range of numbers). One report indicates that about half that money is left. Some accounts indicate that the parents accuse the husband of wanting the woman to die so he can benefit. In other accounts, the husband apparently accuses the family of wanting him out of the way so they can inherit. Now I find myself returning to a centrist view. It's possible that both sides are scum. _________________________________________________________________ Add MSN 8 Internet Software to your current Internet access and enjoy patented spam control and more. Get two months FREE! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/byoa From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 20:56:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N1uj6q032329 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:56:45 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A15AC1E601EF; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:54:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72F981E601EE for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:54:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A185F0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:47:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14654272 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:47:33 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N1lUq13050 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:47:31 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h9N1lTDU010381 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 03:47:29 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h9N1lTVZ010379 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 03:47:29 +0200 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 03:47:28 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pup in the woods Message-ID: <20031023014728.GA10237@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof: = In a message dated 10/22/2003 1:29:11 PM, stevie@MULTINIX.COM writes: = = >Jeez, Theo, you can really be such a bitch some days. = = Why? Did I say anything insulting to anyone? Wondering, Theo Well, duh, it was right there but you deleted it. "You also need to remember that dogs are superb imitators of their owners!" I don't think Marie was whining! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 20:58:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N1wc6q032352 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:58:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9F84C1E601EF; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:56:20 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70D321E601EB for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:56:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A185EA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:49:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14654358 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:49:26 -0400 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9N1nPq13254 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:49:25 -0400 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:49:25 PDT Message-ID: <20031023014925.92635.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:49:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Cats To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031022180754.03f00980@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Peter Kaminski wrote: > Google when you say that, pardner -- > > > > Pete Okay, Pete, turn around is... (I haven't wholly given up on "All My Sons" yet.) From what movie did the line you quote above originally come? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 21:06:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N26j6q032546 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:06:45 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 40F3D1E601EB; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:04:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13EA71E601E8 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:04:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1860F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:57:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14654718 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:57:32 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N1vWq13954 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:57:32 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h9N1vUDU010413 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 03:57:30 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h9N1vU1u010411 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 03:57:30 +0200 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 03:57:30 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cats Message-ID: <20031023015730.GB10237@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031022180754.03f00980@mail.istori.com> <20031023014925.92635.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031023014925.92635.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber: = --- Peter Kaminski wrote: = > Google when you say that, pardner -- = > = > = > = > Pete = = Okay, Pete, turn around is... (I haven't wholly given = up on "All My Sons" yet.) From what movie did the line = you quote above originally come? Misquote from the Virginian. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 21:10:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N2AN6q032572 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:10:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E71C61E601EF; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:08:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B561A1E601EE for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:08:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A18632@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:01:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14654816 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:01:10 -0400 Received: from vmmr8.verisignmail.com (omrnat3.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N21Aq14284 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:01:10 -0400 Received: from ms4.verisignmail.com (ms4.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.177] (may be forged)) by vmmr8.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id ASD34410; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:00:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by ms4.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id ATE38700; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:00:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:58:04 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: CCC Reply-To: mem@noxiousweeds.net Message-ID: <3F96A90C.29925.16EF626@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3F972DF1.2CAD37AC@maynor.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 22 Oct 2003 at 20:25, Natalie Maynor wrote: > But the idea of an active KKK stuffing > mailboxes with flyers strikes me as way weird. Well, yes, flyers would seem so old-fashioned when you can communicate via the Web. http://www.mwkkkk.org/main.htm From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 21:11:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N2BS6q032587 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:11:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E012E1E601EE; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:09:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B26A71E601E8 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:09:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A18634@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:02:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14654843 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:02:15 -0400 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9N22Fq14392 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:02:15 -0400 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:02:14 PDT Message-ID: <20031023020214.95527.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:02:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Cats To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F970A4F.4D171AEC@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It starts at 4:00. Friday, > though, I have to be > at a talk on campus at 3:00 and thus will have to > feed them later. I > trust they can handle the variations in the > afternoon feeding times. > And wait -- it's this weekend that the time changes, > right? More > confusion. The fact that all animals deal successfully with the time changes indicates that there should be no problem with variations in feeding times. They already know something's up. Master is gone and you're there. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 21:16:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N2GD6q032665 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:16:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 649651E601EF; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:13:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30B3E1E601E8 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:13:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1862E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:07:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14654932 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:07:01 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N270q14661 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:07:00 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.168.27]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031023020655.TKMX1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:06:55 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9737BF.B9B02D00@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:06:55 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CCC References: <3F96A90C.29925.16EF626@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Michael E. Macmillan" wrote: > Well, yes, flyers would seem so old-fashioned when you can > communicate via the Web. Perzactly. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 21:17:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N2Ht6q032675 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:17:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8F5FA1E601EE; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:15:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC5C1E601EB for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:15:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A18632@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:08:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14654973 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:08:43 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N28gq14809 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:08:42 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.168.27]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031023020837.TLGY1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:08:37 -0400 Message-ID: <3F973825.CB17D78B@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:08:37 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cats References: <20031023020214.95527.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > The fact that all animals deal successfully with the > time changes indicates that there should be no problem > with variations in feeding times. They already know > something's up. Master is gone and you're there. It's true that those cats will probably be in ready mode for oddities. Spencer will have a much harder time adjusting. I had intended to feed him later and later over the past few weeks, but it just didn't work out. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 21:21:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N2L26q032690 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:21:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D51281E601EF; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:18:43 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A14271E601EB for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:18:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1863B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:11:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14655057 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:11:49 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N2Bnq15061 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:11:49 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-177.gwi.net [216.195.153.177]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9N2BlAr057094 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:11:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031022220828.00b99280@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:11:43 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Att: Bonniemae In-Reply-To: <3F972ED6.54BCC67@maynor.net> References: <3F971C9A.9C25E0B@maynor.net> <3F971C9A.9C25E0B@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022205502.00b937d0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I think it's more important to have a physician who is going to honor your > > living will. > >How is a living will different from having "don't resuscitate" in a >patient's chart? -- Natalie A living will is something that an individual writes up herself while in sound mind and possibly sound body. It's witnessed and on record with a physician. A "don't resuscitate" order on a chart is done after a person becomes severely ill or incapacitated. It can be put on the chart by the physician or by the family. In few cases is it requested by the patient herself because at the point that it is warranted, the patient is incapable of issuing orders. Of course there are exceptions. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 21:21:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N2Le6q032694 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:21:41 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A35441E601EB; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:19:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 757661E601E8 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:19:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1864A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:12:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14655080 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:12:28 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N2CSq15120 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:12:28 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-177.gwi.net [216.195.153.177]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9N2CPAt057207; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:12:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031022221114.00b5fcb0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:12:21 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: CCC In-Reply-To: <3F9737BF.B9B02D00@maynor.net> References: <3F96A90C.29925.16EF626@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:06 PM 10/22/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >"Michael E. Macmillan" wrote: > > > Well, yes, flyers would seem so old-fashioned when you can > > communicate via the Web. > >Perzactly. But perhaps in the case of KKK, their drool keeps shorting out the keyboards. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 21:25:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N2PV6q000317 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:25:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BF6461E601EF; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:23:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9199F1E601EE for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:23:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A18644@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:16:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14655162 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:16:18 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N2GIq15445 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:16:18 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-157.gwi.net [216.195.152.157]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9N2GGAr057947 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:16:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031022221159.00bb3d20@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:15:39 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: CCC In-Reply-To: <3F973129.88EC5B74@maynor.net> References: <3F971382.E74C5DD2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022211712.00b9d980@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > It has come up in connection with the controversial casino question. > >What is your controversial casino question? > -- Natalie There is a question on the November 4th ballot in Maine if we will allow a large Indian casino in the Sanford area of southern Maine. It would be one resort casino built on the Connecticut model. Some think it will bring jobs and tax money to Maine. Others think it will bring crime, Las Vegas influence, blight in the region immediately outside of the casino, and little tax money left over after expenses incurred. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 21:25:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N2Pb6q000320 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:25:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9AB521E601F0; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:23:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6383E1E601EF for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:23:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A18651@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:16:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14655166 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:16:25 -0400 Received: from web20512.mail.yahoo.com (web20512.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9N2GOq15459 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:16:24 -0400 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20512.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:16:20 PDT Message-ID: <20031023021620.61098.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:16:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: CCC To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031022211712.00b9d980@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: > The race thing has just come up in Maine. But the > race in question is the > red one. It has come up in connection with the > controversial casino question. We also have the casino thing, as does Natalie in MS. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 21:28:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N2S96q000341 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:28:09 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3750B1E601EB; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:25:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03D5A1E601E8 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:25:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001B7D51@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:18:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14655308 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:18:56 -0400 Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com (web20502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9N2Iuq15767 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:18:56 -0400 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:18:55 PDT Message-ID: <20031023021855.59512.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:18:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: CCC To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F972DF1.2CAD37AC@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Race is naturally something that comes up in > Mississippi at times > because of the history. But the idea of an active > KKK stuffing > mailboxes with flyers strikes me as way weird. I don't hink it would happen here, either. The spotlight is too bright on the sucky South to admit of such brazen goings on. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 21:35:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N2ZC6q000360 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:35:12 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2595B1E601EF; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:32:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E78C81E601EB for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:32:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A18672@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:25:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14655733 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:25:59 -0400 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9N2Pxq16591 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:25:59 -0400 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:25:58 PDT Message-ID: <20031023022558.61217.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:25:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: cui bono To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Marty Rosen wrote: > I spoke too soon on the Schiavo matter. Apparently > there was a malpractice > suit that awarded the woman 700,000 (google this and > you'll find a range of > numbers). One report indicates that about half that > money is left. Some > accounts indicate that the parents accuse the > husband of wanting the woman > to die so he can benefit. In other accounts, the > husband apparently accuses > the family of wanting him out of the way so they can > inherit. > > Now I find myself returning to a centrist view. > It's possible that both > sides are scum. Oh, my! This last possibility makes perfect sense. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 21:41:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N2f36q000463 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:41:03 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A8EC71E601F0; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:38:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B5F51E601E8 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:38:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A186A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:31:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14655988 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:31:50 -0400 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9N2Voq17250 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:31:50 -0400 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:31:49 PDT Message-ID: <20031023023149.3210.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:31:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Cats To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031023015730.GB10237@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- steph wrote: >From what movie did the > line > = you quote above originally come? > > Misquote from the Virginian. Bingo. As you know, no one ever said "pardner" in that context. Now solve Pete's poser about "All My Sons", and you will have my perpetual gratitude. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 21:52:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N2qM6q000624 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:52:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2B3DF1E601F2; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:50:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED4F91E601EF for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:50:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A186CC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:43:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14656524 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:43:00 -0400 Received: from web20513.mail.yahoo.com (web20513.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9N2h0q18548 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:43:00 -0400 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20513.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:42:59 PDT Message-ID: <20031023024259.84074.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:42:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: CCC To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F96A90C.29925.16EF626@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Well, yes, flyers would seem so old-fashioned when > you can > communicate via the Web. > > http://www.mwkkkk.org/main.htm Silly, delusional geese. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 21:53:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N2rl6q000631 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:53:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 805881E601F3; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:51:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B3051E601F2 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:51:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A186CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:44:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14656669 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:44:34 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f98.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N2iXq18732 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:44:33 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:44:28 -0700 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 02:44:27 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Att: Bonniemae Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:44:27 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Oct 2003 02:44:28.0246 (UTC) FILETIME=[93F65760:01C3990F] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Doris Markland >to feeling responsible somehow. And if they okay pulling the plug >they will feel guilty all their lives, and they know that . . and they >love her. I'm not saying it's right for them to stall, just saying it's >a hard situation. The money issue aside, it seems clear they're thinking mostly about themselves. As you say, they're worried about feeling "guilty all their lives." That, I think, is reprehensible. I think this is a fairly clear solomonic test case, and they're failing. I understand that in a critical care case a family might want to stall. But thirteen years is hardly stalling. It's a kind of lunacy. These people are convinced, despite apparent consensus from physicians, that this woman is "responsive" to them. I see that the husband has now barred the parents from visiting the patient. It seems that as the husband he has the power to control who can visit her bedside and has decided to exercise that power. Well, until Jeb says otherwise, anyway. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with MSN Messenger 6.0 -- download now! http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_general From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 22:11:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N3Bi6q000809 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:11:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2FD241E601F4; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:09:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 005781E601F0 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:09:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001B7F18@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 23:02:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14659581 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 23:02:31 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N32Vq21378 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 23:02:31 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 8F3332B8EB; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:02:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 877CD2B8E8 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:02:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:02:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: another word for Borkin In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031022210007.00b93590@pop.gwi.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 22 Oct 2003, bonniev wrote: > Here's a nice word: > > deshabille Yes, I like that one, though I don't think I could use it, speaking, without miming affectation. Unless I was speaking French. In which case I would probably sound like a foreign dowager. Did anybody read the piece about spending a zillion dollars in Paris on a custom-fitted bra? I can't remember where I read it. Anyway, 'deshabille' always makes me picture revealingly draped, or removed from draping, white lace and tulle. Tulle? Isn't tulle stiff, the stuff tutus are made of? Why tulle, I wonder. A better image would be some kind of silk robe. But I'm stuck with stupid tulle and lace. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 22:42:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N3gr6q001038 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:42:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2EA741E601F8; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:40:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 007061E601F7 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:40:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A189CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 23:33:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14663180 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 23:33:39 -0400 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9N3Xdq25045 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 23:33:39 -0400 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:33:38 PDT Message-ID: <20031023033338.18060.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:33:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: another word for Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > deshabille > Anyway, 'deshabille' always makes me picture > revealingly draped, or > removed from draping, white lace and tulle. Tulle? > Isn't tulle stiff, > the stuff tutus are made of? Why tulle, I wonder. > > A better image would be some kind of silk robe. But > I'm stuck with stupid > tulle and lace. I think of flushed but premeditated confusion, and not nearly so formal as lace and tulle. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 22:52:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N3qU6q001117 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:52:30 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 51A881E601EF; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:50:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DF041E601F4 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:50:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A189DF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 23:43:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14663548 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 23:43:16 -0400 Received: from vmmr7.verisignmail.com (omrnat2.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.153]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N3hGq26124 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 23:43:16 -0400 Received: from ms4.verisignmail.com (ms4.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.177] (may be forged)) by vmmr7.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id PCN41807; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 23:08:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by ms4.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id ATE44665; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 23:08:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:06:05 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: CCC Reply-To: mem@noxiousweeds.net Message-ID: <3F96B8FD.11309.1AD3C73@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <5.2.1.1.0.20031022221114.00b5fcb0@pop.gwi.net> References: <3F9737BF.B9B02D00@maynor.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 22 Oct 2003 at 22:12, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > But perhaps in the case of KKK, their drool keeps shorting out the > keyboards. I don't know. Maybe that's something you could ask about on the KKK Webboard. http://www.unitedknights.org/wbboard/main.php From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 22 23:50:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N4oR6q001645 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 23:50:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0E3951E601F8; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 23:48:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF2D21E601F7 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 23:48:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A18BE5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 0:41:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14666119 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 00:41:12 -0400 Received: from mailer.syr.edu (mailer.syr.edu [128.230.18.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N46vq29483 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 00:06:57 -0400 Received: from rodan.syr.edu by mailer.syr.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.09DACE68@mailer.syr.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 0:06:57 -0400 Received: from localhost (clostran@localhost) by rodan.syr.edu (8.11.7+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N46u608454 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 00:06:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: rodan.syr.edu: clostran owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 00:06:56 -0400 (EDT) From: clostran@mailbox.syr.edu X-X-Sender: clostran@rodan.syr.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Rita's challenge Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I seem to be compounding the triple acquisitions by not being able to tell whether mail has gone out or not. Trying another venue - we'll see if this works. On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:08:08 -0500, Rita Chapman wrote: >Clo, this deserves a thoughtful reply, but I'm too burned >out to give it one right now. I don't want you to feel that >I'm blowing you off. I just have other stuff taking up my >brain space right now. I'm supposed to be doing something >about professional development at school, but I'm not sure >what, solving the achievement gap (I AM SO FUCKING SICK OF >TALKING ABOUT RACE), and writing a paper comparing Dewey to >Coles with some Eco and Kozol and other stuff thrown in. I >also have an inordinate number of troubled children assigned >to me this year; I wish I was smart enough to figure them >out better. They're all such good babies. Anyway, your >points are all well taken, and I'm sure you're right, and I >don't mean that in a snarky way at all. > I'm not so sure I'm right, except in that it's premature to assume we know the truth. My sympathies about the brain space. The needs of children are urgent indeed. It's not all about race, though, even if it is in your class or assignment or whatever the imposed paradigm is. (not like you need me to tell you so!) I grew up in extreme rural poverty; it just happened to be all white. Did I say extreme? I assure you I meant it. I also worked for years with deaf kids. Talk about an achievement gap! If you can't reach the words you don't get the language and then the cultural contexts for judging what people are doing and why they are doing it is lost. Different triggers, same syndrome. Take away context or take away language - the results are the same. Kids need to be able to make sense of the world. Of course they're good babies! They're good men and women, too - it's just that the realm they know enough about to be good in is so impoverished, and the results are so disastrous! What will the kids do attentively? Will they sing? Will they paint? Will they build? Eat? I interpreted one year for an immersion French class that was taught through recipes, which were then served and eaten restaurant style. To get to the food, you had to jump through the learning hoop. It was both popular and effective, but of course it's luck of the draw whether desperately unorthodox measures will pan out. And who can take chances, when the achievement tests and competency scales loom over everyone's shoulders? Not easy to be a teacher. Thanks for taking it on. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 02:56:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N7u66q003296 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 02:56:06 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C26C01E60211; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 02:53:45 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 946751E60210 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 02:53:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A18E36@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 3:46:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14673441 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 03:46:51 -0400 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N7koq13602 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 03:46:50 -0400 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 09:48:24 +0200 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id VHJCGKH0; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 09:48:12 +0200 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031023094539.01bc1bb8@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 09:46:18 +0200 Subject: Re: interesting on line journal In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What can I say? "On parle aussi du « flatbrød »" Espen 08:32 22.10.2003 -0400 skrev Paul Barfoot: >try try again >worked for me this morning > >you will be rewarded by access to such articles as: > >ENTRETIEN AVEC RUNAR DØVING : >CROQUANT, CRAQUANT ET CROUSTILLANT DANS LA >CULTURE ALIMENTAIRE NORVEGIENNE > > > >BrP > > > > >>>> meeberphobia@HOTMAIL.COM 10/21/03 07:34PM >>> >>From: Paul Barfoot >>Anthropology of Food >>http://www.aofood.org/default.htm > >Dang. There's something wrong with the page. > >_________________________________________________________________ >Want to check if your PC is virus-infected? Get a FREE computer virus scan >online from McAfee. >http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 03:02:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9N8276q003419 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 03:02:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E0C741E6020E; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 02:59:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B33791E6020D for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 02:59:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001B8509@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 3:52:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14673580 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 03:52:51 -0400 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9N7qpq14011 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 03:52:51 -0400 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 09:54:26 +0200 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id VHJCGKJM; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 09:54:19 +0200 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031023095151.01bb6db0@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 09:52:26 +0200 Subject: Re: interesting on line journal In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Is this where Asbjørnsen's fight with Norwegian womanhood comes in? Espen 09:43 22.10.2003 -0400 skrev Marty Rosen: >Excellent! Thanks for the tip. This should make a fine complement to >Petits Propos Culinaire, the best print journal dealing with the history of >food. > >http://www.kal69.dial.pipex.com/ppc.htm >http://members.tripod.com/rdeh/ > > >>From: Paul Barfoot >>Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >>To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>Subject: Re: interesting on line journal >>Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:32:20 -0400 >> >>try try again >>worked for me this morning >> >>you will be rewarded by access to such articles as: >> >>ENTRETIEN AVEC RUNAR DØVING : >>CROQUANT, CRAQUANT ET CROUSTILLANT DANS LA >>CULTURE ALIMENTAIRE NORVEGIENNE >> >> >> >>BrP >> >> >> >> >>>>> meeberphobia@HOTMAIL.COM 10/21/03 07:34PM >>> >>>From: Paul Barfoot >>>Anthropology of Food >>>http://www.aofood.org/default.htm >> >>Dang. 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Try it FREE for one month! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 05:44:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NAiR6q004873 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 05:44:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 27EE01E60223; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 05:42:03 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED7921E60221 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 05:42:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A18FA1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 6:35:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14676942 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 06:35:08 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NAZ8q22734 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 06:35:08 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.167.247]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031023103502.KJQA1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 06:35:02 -0400 Message-ID: <3F97AED5.EB984FF4@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 05:35:01 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CCC References: <3F971382.E74C5DD2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022211712.00b9d980@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022221159.00bb3d20@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > There is a question on the November 4th ballot in Maine if we will allow a > large Indian casino in the Sanford area of southern Maine. It would be one > resort casino built on the Connecticut model. Some think it will bring > jobs and tax money to Maine. Others think it will bring crime, Las Vegas > influence, blight in the region immediately outside of the casino, and > little tax money left over after expenses incurred. So this would be on Maine property, not on tribal property? I've never been sure what all the are in the relationship of reservation to state (as I think we've discussed here before), but I don't remember that the residents of Mississippi had anything to do with the Choctaws' decision to build a casino on their own property. It has been quite successful and has indeed provided jobs to lots of people, including non-Choctaws. I'm not sure what the tax situation is, though obviously the off-reservation motels etc. are a source of state tax money. I'm trying to remember something that came up in the past couple of years about the Choctaws and money. Some legislator or whoever was proposing some kind of scheme for the state to grab some of the casino money being raked in by the Choctaws, but the general sentiment was against this man's idea -- that whatever he was recommening was not right -- that it was their money and the state had no business trying to stick a hand into the pot. I've never been sure, btw, where all the casino-generated money elsewhere has gone -- the bonanza expected from the casinos on the Coast and on the Mississippi River (only the Choctaw casino is on land -- state law requires them to be on water -- but the reservation isn't state land and thus is not affected by that law). Though I haven't paid careful attention to the goings-on, my general impression is that the Choctaw casino (which has recently been expanded) has been more successful than the watery ones. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 05:47:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NAl76q004885 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 05:47:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 908351E60220; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 05:44:45 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 600D01E6021D for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 05:44:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A18FA7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 6:37:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14677008 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 06:37:51 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NAboq22867 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 06:37:50 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.167.247]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031023103745.KKCK1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 06:37:45 -0400 Message-ID: <3F97AF78.89EC82EA@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 05:37:44 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CCC References: <20031023021855.59512.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > > Race is naturally something that comes up in > > Mississippi at times > > because of the history. But the idea of an active > > KKK stuffing > > mailboxes with flyers strikes me as way weird. > > I don't hink it would happen here, either. The > spotlight is too bright on the sucky South to admit of > such brazen goings on. If they were running around stuffing mailboxes, people would see them. Or do they wear hoods when they go out stuffing? Like do you (Rita or anybody else who lives in a place with an active KKK running around in public) actually see their faces -- know their identities? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 05:53:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NArS6q004963 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 05:53:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B88AE1E60222; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 05:51:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B6651E60221 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 05:51:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A18FBB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 6:44:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14677076 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 06:44:12 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NAiBq23148 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 06:44:11 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.167.247]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031023104406.KLGJ1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 06:44:06 -0400 Message-ID: <3F97B0F5.ECFEC537@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 05:44:05 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CCC References: <3F9737BF.B9B02D00@maynor.net> <3F96B8FD.11309.1AD3C73@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Michael E. Macmillan" wrote: > http://www.unitedknights.org/wbboard/main.php I just did a 'whois' on the domain, thinking it would be interesting to see the names listed as administrator, tech, etc. But they're numbers instead of names. Sneaky. The only identifiable info was their mailing address, a p.o. box in Victoria, Texas. And this reminds me. Did I mention that I am in the process of being moved from Network Solutions to -- I've forgotten my new registration place -- something like Bulkregister. I guess after the move is complete, I can whois myself and find out. Actually, I have some e-mail saved that tells me. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 06:24:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NBO76q005319 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 06:24:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B87D51E60223; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 06:21:45 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A60C1E60221 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 06:21:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A19010@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 7:14:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14677855 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 07:14:51 -0400 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NBEoq11682 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 07:14:50 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9NBEP7Q004911 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 04:14:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F97B7E9.8030006@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 06:13:45 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CCC References: <20031023021855.59512.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> <3F97AF78.89EC82EA@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Lynne Weber wrote: > >>>Race is naturally something that comes up in >>>Mississippi at times >>>because of the history. But the idea of an active >>>KKK stuffing >>>mailboxes with flyers strikes me as way weird. >>> >>I don't hink it would happen here, either. The >>spotlight is too bright on the sucky South to admit of >>such brazen goings on. >> > > If they were running around stuffing mailboxes, people would see them. > Or do they wear hoods when they go out stuffing? Like do you (Rita or > anybody else who lives in a place with an active KKK running around in > public) actually see their faces -- know their identities? I've never seen them personally, but they've canvassed my (very mixed race) neighborhood. I've seen the guy on TV who was fighting for the KKK to participate in the Missouri Adopt a Highway program. It is very odd. The constant emphasis on race around here (they can turn anything into a race issue) is the most unpleasant part of living here -- makes it nearly intolerable sometimes. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 06:25:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NBPT6q005331 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 06:25:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AD55F1E60223; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 06:23:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E4FB1E60222 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 06:23:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A19012@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 7:16:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14677879 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 07:16:13 -0400 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NBGCq11782 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 07:16:12 -0400 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:17:37 +0200 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id VHJCGNJS; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:17:34 +0200 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031023131403.01c2ca98@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:15:38 +0200 Subject: More from Crete In-Reply-To: <3F87EFA2.D22847DD@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031010134817.0202bfe8@localhost> <200310091207.h99C7P74018289@ra.msstate.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031010231245.00bc9a48@localhost> <5.2.1.1.0.20031011085512.00b3a628@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The weekly Athens News has a places-to-go feature. Last Friday's was from just the area where we stayed in Crete - one of the photos is almost straight out from our door in the taverna Akrogiali in Kato Zakro: http://www.athensnews.gr/athweb/nathens.prnt_article?e=C&f=13036&t=06&m=A24&aa=1 Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 07:15:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NCFI6q005870 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 07:15:18 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 774CA1E60229; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 07:12:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45D211E60228 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 07:12:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A190C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 8:06:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14679427 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:06:01 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NC61q16421 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:06:01 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001B879B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 8:06:01 -0400 Message-Id: <200310231206.h9NC61q16421@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:06:01 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Pup in the woods To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:19:38 EDT, Theo Groothof wrote: >In a message dated 10/22/2003 1:29:11 PM, stevie@MULTINIX.COM writes: > >>Jeez, Theo, you can really be such a bitch some days. > >Why? Did I say anything insulting to anyone? Wondering, Theo No, Theo, it's a pun - you said dogs resemble their masters. If a female dog is a bitch, then its mistress must be ... clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 07:19:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NCJl6q005959 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 07:19:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 540F11E6022C; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 07:17:25 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 226D61E60227 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 07:17:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A190F5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 8:10:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14679763 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:10:30 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NCAUq17132 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:10:30 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001B87D2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 8:10:30 -0400 Message-Id: <200310231210.h9NCAUq17132@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:10:30 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Att: Bonniemae To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:04:46 -0400, bonniev wrote: >>That is exactly what we were talking about today -- that it's easy to >>understand the parents' desire to keep her alive. >> -- Natalie > >Although it is not at all the same thing, this reminds me of the neonatal >nurse at Shands Hospital in Gainesville, Florida who told me I would >understand better how hard it is to allow a severely defective newborn to >die if I just held this baby for awhile. So I held the baby and even gave >her the afternoon feeding. Then I told the nurse that after that >experience I felt all the more strongly that the infant should be allowed >to peacefully die. > > >bonnie But isn't it lucky that nurses don't feel the same - it allows them to care for the children lovingly, since it's their job. Sometimes parents will abandon such a child in the peds IC nursery; I know a nurse couple (a couple of nurses who are a couple) who ended up adopting 7 such children. All thrived, and became very interesting, loving personalities. I couldn't do it; but I loved getting to know the kids, and feel enriched for having been part of their circle. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 07:22:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NCMY6q005976 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 07:22:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7BFA11E60229; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 07:20:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47D111E60227 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 07:20:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001B87E2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 8:13:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14679877 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:13:12 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NCDCq17621 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:13:12 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001B87C5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 8:13:12 -0400 Message-Id: <200310231213.h9NCDCq17621@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:13:12 -0400 From: Anne Toal Subject: Here is the latest To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The doctors have settled on a diagnosis of renal cyst, which believe me is a great relief. But you know how they are...they never want to *let-you- off-the-hook* (allow you to relax, feel free and easy). So this morning a man with a long needle is going to stick it into the hollow in my kidney and get out whatever's in there, which they will then analyze to see if their guesses were right. Results to come next week. So any positive energy you feel like throwing down South Texas way, now would be a great time to do so :-) -aht From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 07:26:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NCQT6q006021 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 07:26:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 673ED1E6022C; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 07:24:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 358FA1E6022B for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 07:24:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A19100@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 8:17:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14680061 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:17:12 -0400 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NCHCq18235 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:17:12 -0400 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:18:47 +0200 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id VHJCG3FL; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:18:35 +0200 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031023141514.01aef428@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:16:41 +0200 Subject: Re: Here is the latest In-Reply-To: <200310231213.h9NCDCq17621@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 08:13 23.10.2003 -0400 skrev Anne Toal: >The doctors have settled on a diagnosis of renal cyst, which believe me is >a great relief. But you know how they are...they never want to *let-you- >off-the-hook* (allow you to relax, feel free and easy). So this morning a >man with a long needle is going to stick it into the hollow in my kidney >and get out whatever's in there, which they will then analyze to see if >their guesses were right. Results to come next week. > >So any positive energy you feel like throwing down South Texas way, now >would be a great time to do so :-) And here they come, lots of them! They are only doing this so as not to be sued, just in case. But their cyst diagnosis is correct and so you can very soon relax! Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 07:44:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NCib6q006176 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 07:44:37 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D2A771E6022C; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 07:42:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B831E6022B for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 07:42:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A19189@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 8:35:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14681161 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:35:20 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NCZKq20201 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:35:20 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001B886A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 8:35:19 -0400 Message-Id: <200310231235.h9NCZKq20201@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:35:19 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: another word for Borkin To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:02:30 -0700, Ann Borkin wrote: >On Wed, 22 Oct 2003, bonniev wrote: > >> Here's a nice word: >> >> deshabille > >Yes, I like that one, though I don't think I could use it, speaking, >without miming affectation. Unless I was speaking French. In which case >I would probably sound like a foreign dowager. > >Did anybody read the piece about spending a zillion dollars in Paris on a >custom-fitted bra? I can't remember where I read it. > >Anyway, 'deshabille' always makes me picture revealingly draped, or >removed from draping, white lace and tulle. Tulle? Isn't tulle stiff, >the stuff tutus are made of? Why tulle, I wonder. > >A better image would be some kind of silk robe. But I'm stuck with stupid >tulle and lace. > >Ann Do you also eat oatmeal rolled oats? Modern tulle is too scratchy against bare skin, but strictly speaking it's a minimalist form of lace (bobbin lace whole-stitch "ground" - a background pattern against which other stitches are placed in contrast to create a patter), and a cotton or silk tulle would be much softer (you'd have to starch the hell out of it to make a tutu, though). I imagine before polyester, it was the honeycomb structure of tulle that made it interesting to form starchy layers - light, lacy, but strong because of the doubled threads. Is that what you're asking? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 07:48:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NCmN6q006203 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 07:48:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CFD651E6022A; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 07:46:00 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E77E1E60227 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 07:46:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001B8888@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 8:39:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14681435 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:39:06 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NCd6q20718 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:39:06 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001B886C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 8:39:05 -0400 Message-Id: <200310231239.h9NCd6q20718@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:39:05 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: CCC To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 06:13:45 -0500, Rita Chapman wrote: > > I've never seen them personally, Oh sure you have, just not to know. My uncle in Baton Rouge is a card- carrying member. My dad and I talked about buying him a gift membership to NAACP, and taping it to a postcard so his friends in the local P.O. would know about his . clo but they've canvassed my >(very mixed race) neighborhood. I've seen the guy on TV who >was fighting for the KKK to participate in the Missouri >Adopt a Highway program. > > It is very odd. The constant emphasis on race around here >(they can turn anything into a race issue) is the most >unpleasant part of living here -- makes it nearly >intolerable sometimes. Yes. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 07:49:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NCnJ6q006207 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 07:49:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D06781E60227; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 07:46:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A16341E6022A for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 07:46:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1919B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 8:40:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14681452 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:40:02 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NCe2q20827 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:40:02 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001B888A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 8:40:01 -0400 Message-Id: <200310231240.h9NCe2q20827@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:40:01 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Here is the latest To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:13:12 -0400, Anne Toal wrote: >The doctors have settled on a diagnosis of renal cyst, which believe me is >a great relief. But you know how they are...they never want to *let-you- >off-the-hook* (allow you to relax, feel free and easy). So this morning a >man with a long needle is going to stick it into the hollow in my kidney >and get out whatever's in there, which they will then analyze to see if >their guesses were right. Results to come next week. > >So any positive energy you feel like throwing down South Texas way, now >would be a great time to do so :-) > >-aht Fingers, toes, and eyes crossed for luck. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 07:59:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NCxo6q006319 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 07:59:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 983261E6022B; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 07:57:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69B071E6022A for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 07:57:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A191F4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 8:50:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14682187 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:50:33 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NCoWq22447 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:50:32 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001B88F5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 8:50:32 -0400 Message-Id: <200310231250.h9NCoWq22447@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:50:32 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Fake Letters To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 00:06:56 -0400 (EDT) From: clostran@mailbox.syr.edu Subject: Rita's challenge To: English Language Discussion Group I seem to be compounding the triple acquisitions by not being able to tell whether mail has gone out or not. Trying another venue - we'll see if this works: On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:08:08 -0500, Rita Chapman wrote: >Clo, this deserves a thoughtful reply, but I'm too burned >out to give it one right now. I don't want you to feel that >I'm blowing you off. I just have other stuff taking up my >brain space right now. I'm supposed to be doing something >about professional development at school, but I'm not sure >what, solving the achievement gap (I AM SO FUCKING SICK OF >TALKING ABOUT RACE), and writing a paper comparing Dewey to >Coles with some Eco and Kozol and other stuff thrown in. I >also have an inordinate number of troubled children assigned >to me this year; I wish I was smart enough to figure them >out better. They're all such good babies. Anyway, your >points are all well taken, and I'm sure you're right, and I >don't mean that in a snarky way at all. > I'm not so sure I'm right, except in that it's premature to assume we know the truth. My sympathies about the brain space. The needs of children are urgent indeed. It's not all about race, though, even if it is in your class or assignment or whatever the imposed paradigm is. (not like you need me to tell you so!) I grew up in extreme rural poverty; it just happened to be all white. Did I say extreme? I assure you I meant it. I also worked for years with deaf kids. Talk about an achievement gap! If you can't reach the words you don't get the language and then the cultural contexts for judging what people are doing and why they are doing it is lost. Different triggers, same syndrome. Take away context or take away language - the results are the same. Kids need to be able to make sense of the world. Of course they're good babies! They're good men and women, too - it's just that the realm they know enough about to be good in is so impoverished, and the results are so disastrous! What will the kids do attentively? Will they sing? Will they paint? Will they build? Eat? I interpreted one year for an immersion French class that was taught through recipes, which were then served and eaten restaurant style. To get to the food, you had to jump through the learning hoop. It was both popular and effective, but of course it's luck of the draw whether desperately unorthodox measures will pan out. And who can take chances, when the achievement tests and competency scales loom over everyone's shoulders? Not easy to be a teacher. Thanks for taking it on. clo But my big question is: Why don't I get this message more often (in fact, continuously since 1991)? Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:06:01 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UGA (1.8d)" Subject: Rejected posting to WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU To: Carolyn Ostrander Your message is being returned to you unprocessed because it appears to have already been distributed to the WORDS-L list. That is, a message with identical text (but possibly with different mail headers) has been posted to the list recently, either by you or by someone else. If you have a good reason to resend this message to the list (for instance because you have been notified of a hardware failure with loss of data), please alter the text of the message in some way and resend it to the list clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 08:04:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ND4o6q006379 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:04:50 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 385761E6022E; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:02:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0967D1E6022B for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:02:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A19202@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 8:55:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14682479 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:55:33 -0400 Received: from maple.vaxer.net (root@maple.vaxer.net [66.199.186.132]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NCtWq23229 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:55:33 -0400 Received: from maple.vaxer.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maple.vaxer.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9NCsfTX004235 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 05:55:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (sylvar@localhost) by maple.vaxer.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id h9NCseCF012353 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 05:54:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: maple.vaxer.net: sylvar owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 05:54:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: another word for Borkin In-Reply-To: <200310231213.h9NCDGTX020938@maple.vaxer.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I remember something similar to the zillion-dollar bra story in Peter Mayle's _Acquired Tastes_, in which he bravely consents to such ordeals as buying custom-tailored suits, eating truffle omelettes, and wearing $1000+ pairs of shoes crafted to fit his very carefully measured feet. It should be in every library, especially those serving poor people, so that everyone can have the pleasure of knowing what it's like to have amazingly comfortable shoes worth keeping for 30 years. Perhaps then the working class would start doing their bit to revive the economy the way the RRSOBs have been. (Not to slander your mother specifically, Natalie.) Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 08:20:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NDKx6q006517 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:20:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7661B1E6022E; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:18:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48BF11E6022B for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:18:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001B8988@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 9:11:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14683629 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 09:11:41 -0400 Received: from web20512.mail.yahoo.com (web20512.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9NDBfq25574 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 09:11:41 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20512.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 06:11:40 PDT Message-ID: <20031023131140.18128.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 06:11:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: CCC To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F97B0F5.ECFEC537@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > And this reminds me. Did I mention that I am in the > process of being > moved from Network Solutions to -- I've forgotten my > new registration > place -- something like Bulkregister. I guess after > the move is > complete, I can whois myself and find out. > Actually, I have some e-mail > saved that tells me. Does this mean that all mail received from you will go directly into the "bulk" folder, and you will no longer have access to solutions? :-] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 08:34:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NDYM6q006622 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:34:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E15A91E6022B; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:31:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B216F1E6022A for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:31:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A192C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 9:25:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14684541 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 09:25:05 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NDP5q27947 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 09:25:05 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-12.gwi.net [216.195.150.12]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9NDP2Gn055829 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 09:25:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031023091929.00b26938@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 09:25:09 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: CCC In-Reply-To: <3F97AED5.EB984FF4@maynor.net> References: <3F971382.E74C5DD2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022211712.00b9d980@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022221159.00bb3d20@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >So this would be on Maine property, not on tribal property? I've never >been sure what all the are in the relationship of reservation to >state (as I think we've discussed here before), but I don't remember >that the residents of Mississippi had anything to do with the Choctaws' >decision to build a casino on their own property. > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I don't know what all the rules regarding tribal property are either. I do know that the Indians need the state's permission to open a gambling casino. Gambling (other than lottery and something they do at some horse race venue) is illegal in Maine. The state would not get property tax from the casino itself. But they would get 25% of the slot machine revenue. Some claim that money would all go to improve services and security to the casino. There is quite a bit of evidence from Connecticut that the small town near their huge casino was very badly affected by the casino. Small restaurants closed because everyone ate at the casino resort. Homes were bought up to house the employees (many, many to a house) who were brought in from abroad to work the casino. And other things. The campaign against the casino has been filling the print and the airwaves with ads. They are ahead in the polls. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 09:32:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NEVv6q007050 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 09:32:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 08C8D1E6022F; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 09:29:32 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD0EF1E6022E for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 09:29:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A19584@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:22:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14690703 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:22:37 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f35.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NEMaq06926 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:22:36 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 07:22:31 -0700 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:22:30 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: interesting on line journal Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:22:30 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Oct 2003 14:22:31.0111 (UTC) FILETIME=[18185D70:01C39971] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Yup. I'll raise that topic in a couple of days, when I have time to transcribe a few paragraphs. >From: Espen Ore >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: interesting on line journal >Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 09:52:26 +0200 > >Is this where Asbjørnsen's fight with Norwegian womanhood comes in? > >Espen > >09:43 22.10.2003 -0400 skrev Marty Rosen: > >Excellent! Thanks for the tip. 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Get Hotmail Extra Storage today! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 10:03:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NF3M6q007376 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:03:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 531161E60233; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:00:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D9B01E60232 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:00:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1978D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:54:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14696159 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:54:04 -0400 Received: from web20501.mail.yahoo.com (web20501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.136]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9NErrq17381 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:54:04 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 07:47:50 PDT Message-ID: <20031023144750.90820.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 07:47:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: interesting on line journal To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Marty Rosen wrote: > Yup. I'll raise that topic in a couple of days, > when I have time to > transcribe a few paragraphs. > >Is this where Asbjørnsen's fight with Norwegian > womanhood comes in? Let the transcription begin. You have whetted my appetite for information on this topic. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 10:12:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NFC26q007443 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:12:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2E9C61E60235; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:09:39 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F27E91E60232 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:09:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A197E8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:02:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14697098 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:02:44 -0400 Received: from tjl.adcinternal.com (host-216-153-232-27.ind.choiceone.net [216.153.232.27]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NF2hq18919 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:02:44 -0400 Received: from tjl (flint@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tjl.adcinternal.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9NF2gt12748 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:02:43 -0500 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:02:41 -0500 From: Tom Lee To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Here is the latest Message-Id: <20031023100241.7b2f7950.flint@kiva.net> In-Reply-To: <200310231213.h9NCDCq17621@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200310231213.h9NCDCq17621@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Organization: Lamplighter Enterprises X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.7 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i586-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU You have all my best wishes. Thank you for continuing to keep us up to date! -- Take care, Tom Lee Relax, feel free and easy; I won't stop you On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:13:12 -0400, Anne Toal wrote: > The doctors have settled on a diagnosis of renal cyst, which believe me is > a great relief. But you know how they are...they never want to *let-you- > off-the-hook* (allow you to relax, feel free and easy). So this morning a > man with a long needle is going to stick it into the hollow in my kidney > and get out whatever's in there, which they will then analyze to see if > their guesses were right. Results to come next week. > > So any positive energy you feel like throwing down South Texas way, now > would be a great time to do so :-) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 10:22:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NFMZ6q007544 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:22:36 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A1DDD1E60234; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:20:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 666481E60232 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:20:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001B8EEE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:13:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14698589 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:13:17 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NFDHq21902 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:13:17 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 520A72B8E9; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:13:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C38742B8E7 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:13:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:13:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Here is the latest In-Reply-To: <200310231213.h9NCDCq17621@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Anne Toal wrote: > The doctors have settled on a diagnosis of renal cyst, which believe me is > a great relief. YaY ! > So any positive energy you feel like throwing down South Texas way, now > would be a great time to do so :-) zzzzzzzzzzzzzzing goes that positive energy, from California, where we specialize in that! Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 10:24:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NFOT6q007552 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:24:30 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 843571E60237; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:22:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49E441E60232 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:22:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A19891@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:15:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14698916 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:15:11 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NFFBq22465 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:15:11 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id BE65D2B8CE; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:15:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1114B2B56F for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:15:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:15:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: another word for Borkin In-Reply-To: <200310231235.h9NCZKq20201@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU : BITCH (sorry, looked like nobody else was going to play with the subject line and SOMEBODY had to do it. I thought of WHORE but then clo would give me a lecture about bad self-image or something.) Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 10:44:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NFii6q007743 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:44:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3205A1E60239; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:42:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC0901E60238 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:42:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A19988@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:35:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14701108 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:35:26 -0400 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9NFZPq26597 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:35:25 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:35:24 PDT Message-ID: <20031023153525.99312.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:35:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: another word for Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Ann Borkin wrote: > : BITCH > > (sorry, looked like nobody else was going to play > with the subject line > and SOMEBODY had to do it. I thought of WHORE but > then clo would give me > a lecture about bad self-image or something.) Well, the name Borkin is suggestive of quite an array of creative interpretations, dependent to a certain extent on whether it is viewed as a noun or a verb. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 10:53:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NFrO6q007827 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:53:24 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0992F1E6023B; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:51:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA9151E60232 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:51:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A199CF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:44:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14701797 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:43:57 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NFhv527899 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:43:57 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HN7VFH01.9EE for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:38:05 -0700 From: "John Williams" To: English Language Discussion Group Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:38:05 -0700 X-Mailer: Netscape Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en Subject: Re: Cats X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: Lynne Weber > > Misquote from the Virginian. > > Bingo. As you know, no one ever said "pardner" in > that context. The line in both the book and the movie is "When you call me that, smile." But, hey, Ingred Bergman never said "Play it again, Sam." either. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 10:55:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NFtI6q007846 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:55:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2416F1E6023C; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:52:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C03C61E6023B for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:52:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A199DB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:45:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14702038 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:45:56 -0400 Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NFju528329 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:45:56 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HN7008Q1VSKXR@mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:45:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:42:17 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:42:17 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Pup in the woods To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Separation anxiety is extremely difficult to deal with. You > may need to give him a doggie anti-depressant while at the > same time doing behavior mod. Have you talked to the > breeder about it? I did talk to her about it. We were on the phone three times last evening. She's very surprised -- he was apparently the mellowest least dependent seeming pup in the litter. She calmed me down, but I'm not as convinced as many that he'll just get over it. The article you sent me was right on -- from the excessive greeting to the not eating in the morning to the destruction to the shaking. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 10:56:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NFuq6q007861 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:56:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 42FD21E6023D; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:54:29 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14CBF1E6023C for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:54:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001B9078@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:47:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14702196 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:47:34 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NFlY528649 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:47:34 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HN7VLL01.PEI for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:41:45 -0700 From: "John Williams" To: English Language Discussion Group Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:41:45 -0700 X-Mailer: Netscape Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en Subject: Re: Here is the latest X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Anne Toal > The doctors have settled on a diagnosis of renal cyst, which > believe me is > a great relief. Yes, it is! Good thoughts are zooming in to the greater McAllen metroplex! JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 11:00:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NG0g6q007936 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:00:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9ACD31E6023A; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:58:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B33B1E60234 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:58:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A19A0D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:51:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14702492 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:51:23 -0400 Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com (web20502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9NFpN529373 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:51:23 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:50:14 PDT Message-ID: <20031023155014.61812.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:50:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Cats To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > The line in both the book and the movie is > "When you call me that, > smile." But, hey, Ingred Bergman never said "Play > it again, Sam." > either. Another American cultural icon dashed to the stones by jmw. But it gets worse. Mary Pickford never said anything. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 11:12:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NGC26q007982 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:12:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A50DE1E6023C; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:09:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 716081E60232 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:09:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A19A83@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:02:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14703513 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:02:43 -0400 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9NG2h531672 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:02:43 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 09:02:40 PDT Message-ID: <20031023160240.99215.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 09:02:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Pup in the woods To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote: You > > may need to give him a doggie anti-depressant > while at the > > same time doing behavior mod. Have you talked to > the > > breeder about it? > > I did talk to her about it. We were on the phone > three times last evening. She's very surprised -- he > was apparently the mellowest least dependent seeming > pup in the litter. She calmed me down, but I'm not > as convinced as many that he'll just get over it. > The article you sent me was right on -- from the > excessive greeting to the not eating in the morning > to the destruction to the shaking. Please do not get him started on medication. That is a dreadful slippery path, and is often just the easiest way out for the master/mistress. He is not torn by neuroses. He's a dog, for land sakes. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 11:27:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NGRW6q008147 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:27:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 96A8E1E60241; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:25:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63D151E6023D for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:25:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A19AE5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:18:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14704646 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:18:13 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NGID502197 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:18:13 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-175.inebraska.com [206.222.202.175]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9NGIAth007851 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:18:11 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000401c39981$1eddf740$afcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031023155014.61812.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: Cats Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:17:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Another American cultural icon dashed to the stones by > jmw. But it gets worse. Mary Pickford never said anything. > - Lynne LOL - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 11:34:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NGY46q008190 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:34:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BA1B21E6023C; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:31:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 860321E6023A for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:31:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A19B30@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:24:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14705378 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:24:45 -0400 Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NGOj503704 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:24:45 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HN7000ZUXL72L@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:24:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:21:05 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:21:05 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Pup in the woods To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Please do not get him started on medication. That is > a dreadful slippery path, and is often just the > easiest way out for the master/mistress. He is not > torn by neuroses. He's a dog, for land sakes. That's pretty much what my breeder's opinion is. She says they are remarkably hardy and that he'll be okay. I'm not looking for the easy way out, but I could see it as a temporary help, in addition to some behavioral changes on my part which would lead to better adjustment by him. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 12:07:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NH7O6q008568 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:07:24 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 981EF1E6023E; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:05:00 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FA241E6023A for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:05:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A19C92@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:58:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14708479 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:58:05 -0400 Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NGw5509988 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:58:05 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HN7000GDZ4O3A@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:58:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:54:25 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:54:25 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Pup in the woods To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The dogwalker just called and said he is doing great -- not yelling at all and that he seems very content back in his crate. Fingers crossed. I'll do my best not to participate in his excessive greeting when I get home. I'll walk/run him, and then maybe I'll go out for a series of half hours... I told my Taekwondo master not to expect me for a little while. I've got work to do. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 12:56:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NHu16q009017 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:56:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DAB451E60242; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:53:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F0B1E60241 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:53:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A19E20@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:46:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14712295 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:46:42 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NHkf517941 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:46:41 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001B94DB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:46:41 -0400 Message-Id: <200310231746.h9NHkf517941@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:46:41 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: another word for Borkin To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:15:09 -0700, Ann Borkin wrote: >: BITCH > >(sorry, looked like nobody else was going to play with the subject line >and SOMEBODY had to do it. I thought of WHORE but then clo would give me >a lecture about bad self-image or something.) > >Ann No no, you misunderstand me completely! (I miss Tushar!) It's perfectly ok with me to like the word whore (or bitch) or to associate it with yourself - or both. Why you would imagine I'd like one and not the other has me boggled, but let that pass. I merely objected to associating WHORE with "illiterate". clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 13:11:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NIB06q009310 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:11:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2BFBE1E60246; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:08:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E92731E60245 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:08:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001B952C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:01:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14713551 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:01:41 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NI1e520472 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:01:40 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 583622B8D5; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:01:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 478BD2B588 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:01:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:01:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: another word for Borkin In-Reply-To: <200310231746.h9NHkf517941@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > I merely objected to associating WHORE with "illiterate". Oh good. Words-l is the -home- of literate WHORES. I even have the t-shirt. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 13:14:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NIEY6q009396 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:14:34 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6D09E1E60248; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:12:10 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34F251E60247 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:12:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001B956A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:05:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14713819 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:05:15 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f92.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.92]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NI5E521002 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:05:15 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:05:09 -0700 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:05:08 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Pup in the woods Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:05:08 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Oct 2003 18:05:09.0278 (UTC) FILETIME=[322EE3E0:01C39990] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Lynne Weber >>Please do not get him started on medication. That is >a dreadful slippery path, and is often just the >easiest way out for the master/mistress. He is not >torn by neuroses. He's a dog, for land sakes. This makes no sense. If he is, as you say, just a dog, what's the problem with medicating him? He's not gonna move to harder and harder drugs and start knocking over 7-11s to feed his habit. But more to the point, why can't a dog be torn by neuroses? Separation anxiety is almost certainly a kind of neurotic behavior. The benefits of talk therapy for dogs are little understood, but probably nil. If medication can relieve his anxiety and make his owners' lives a little easier, without drastically altering his personality, why not use meds? _________________________________________________________________ Send instant messages to anyone on your contact list with MSN Messenger 6.0. Try it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 13:15:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NIFQ6q009400 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:15:26 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B2DBD1E60247; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:13:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FF721E60246 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:13:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001B9573@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:06:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14713936 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:06:06 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f16.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.16]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NI66521249 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:06:06 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:06:00 -0700 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:06:00 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Pup in the woods Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:06:00 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Oct 2003 18:06:00.0866 (UTC) FILETIME=[50EE9820:01C39990] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> >That's pretty much what my breeder's opinion is. She says they are >remarkably hardy and that he'll be okay. I'm not looking for the easy way >out, but I could see it as a temporary help, in addition to some behavioral >changes on my part which would lead to better adjustment by him. Yeah, you could stay home all the time, or take him to work.... _________________________________________________________________ Never get a busy signal because you are always connected with high-speed Internet access. Click here to comparison-shop providers. https://broadband.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 13:29:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NITE6q009558 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:29:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EC39F1E6024C; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:26:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A256C1E60249 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:26:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A19F24@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:19:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14715088 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:19:54 -0400 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NIJs523604 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:19:54 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_dev1.2.) id c.f5.32f84bbe (3996) for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:19:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:19:17 EDT Subject: Re: Pup in the woods To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/23/2003 6:06:12 AM, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: >No, Theo, it's a pun - you said dogs resemble their masters. If a female >dog is a bitch, then its mistress must be ... > I didn't say resemble; copy their owners is what I said. Aside from that; I'm Dutch, and Dutch female dogs are never called bitches. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 13:34:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NIY56q009632 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:34:08 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CB31F1E6024C; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:31:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CB171E6024A for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:31:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A19F53@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:24:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14715519 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:24:45 -0400 Received: from web20512.mail.yahoo.com (web20512.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9NIOi524346 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:24:44 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20512.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:24:43 PDT Message-ID: <20031023182443.26851.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:24:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Pup in the woods To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Marty Rosen wrote: > This makes no sense. If he is, as you say, just a > dog, what's the problem > with medicating him? He's not gonna move to harder > and harder drugs and > start knocking over 7-11s to feed his habit. But > more to the point, why > can't a dog be torn by neuroses? Separation anxiety > is almost certainly a > kind of neurotic behavior. The benefits of talk > therapy for dogs are little > understood, but probably nil. If medication can > relieve his anxiety and > make his owners' lives a little easier, without > drastically altering his > personality, why not use meds? Influences indicated here seem to range from Dr. Spock to de Quincey. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 13:35:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NIZf6q009644 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:35:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 50D9E1E6024C; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:33:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 163EC1E60249 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:33:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A19F6C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:26:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14715643 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:26:19 -0400 Received: from web20506.mail.yahoo.com (web20506.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9NIQJ524590 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:26:19 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:26:17 PDT Message-ID: <20031023182617.68054.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:26:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Pup in the woods To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I didn't say resemble; copy their owners is what I > said. Aside from that; I'm > Dutch, and Dutch female dogs are never called > bitches. Drop the other shoe. What are they called in NL? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 13:49:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NInD6q009781 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:49:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 252991E60250; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:46:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEC3D1E6024D for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:46:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1A041@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:39:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14717328 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:39:51 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f47.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.47]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NIdo527002 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:39:50 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:39:45 -0700 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:39:44 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Pup in the woods Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:39:44 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Oct 2003 18:39:45.0198 (UTC) FILETIME=[078724E0:01C39995] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Lynne Weber >Influences indicated here seem to range from Dr. Spock >to de Quincey. Thanks for footnoting my posts. _________________________________________________________________ Surf and talk on the phone at the same time with broadband Internet access. Get high-speed for as low as $29.95/month (depending on the local service providers in your area). https://broadband.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 13:52:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NIqr6q009817 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:52:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D16BA1E60250; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:50:25 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9258E1E6024D for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:50:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001B96F8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:43:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14717687 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:43:30 -0400 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NIhU527560 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:43:30 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.18a.21144f5c (3996) for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:43:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <18a.21144f5c.2cc97b45@aol.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:43:17 EDT Subject: Re: Pup in the woods To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/23/2003 10:24:49 AM, 14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET writes: >That's pretty much what my breeder's opinion is. She says they are remarkably >hardy and that he'll be okay. I'm not looking for the easy way out, but >I could see it as a temporary help, in addition to some behavioral changes >on my part which would lead to better adjustment by him. > I think I made my point about dogs copying their owners, don't you think? Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 13:54:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NIsh6q009826 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:54:43 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C598D1E6024D; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:52:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 924471E60249 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:52:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1A085@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:45:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14717862 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:45:23 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9NIjN527906 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:45:23 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:45:23 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:37:14 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Pup in the woods Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h9NIsh6q009826 Yes! National Take Your Pet to Work Day! I like it. BrP >>> meeberphobia@HOTMAIL.COM 10/23/03 02:06PM >>> >From: Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> >That's pretty much what my breeder's opinion is. She says they are >remarkably hardy and that he'll be okay. I'm not looking for the easy way >out, but I could see it as a temporary help, in addition to some behavioral >changes on my part which would lead to better adjustment by him. Yeah, you could stay home all the time, or take him to work.... _________________________________________________________________ Never get a busy signal because you are always connected with high-speed Internet access. Click here to comparison-shop providers. https://broadband.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 13:57:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NIvb6q009850 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:57:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EEBAD1E60250; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:55:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACA861E60249 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:55:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1A0B2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:48:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14718221 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:48:14 -0400 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NImE528567 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:48:14 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1e.1b0a583f (3996) for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:47:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1e.1b0a583f.2cc97c4a@aol.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:47:38 EDT Subject: Re: Here is the latest To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/23/2003 6:13:38 AM, toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM writes: >The doctors have settled on a diagnosis of renal cyst, which believe me >is >a great relief Wonderful news. More good wishes going your way for the final testing. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 14:10:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NJAA6q010002 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:10:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 35D4A1E60254; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:07:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC0E1E60253 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:07:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1A121@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:00:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14719335 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:00:51 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NJ0o530916 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:00:50 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.170.42]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031023190045.DZJA1780.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:00:45 -0400 Message-ID: <3F98255C.BF3B90ED@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:00:44 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Indians and Casinos Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I asked at lunch today about the relationship of the Choctaw casino to the state -- whether the state had anything to do with its beginnings, etc. A political scientist said that a compact is required before a casino can be opened but that the state (any state) cannot just say no -- that the details worked out can vary from one place to another but the state has to allow the casino to be built. The Mississippi Choctaw compact specifies that the state gets no taxes, but some states have compacts that promise tax money to them. He said that the relationship between reservations and states are complicated -- that in some ways they're citizens of the state, like voting in state elections and such, but that it some ways they're totally independent. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 14:10:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NJAK6q010005 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:10:25 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 651191E60253; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:07:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEB441E60251 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:07:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1A107@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:00:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14719341 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:00:57 -0400 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NJ0u530935 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:00:56 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1db.130aa986 (3996) for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:00:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1db.130aa986.2cc97f4e@aol.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:00:30 EDT Subject: Re: Pup in the woods To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/23/2003 12:26:50 PM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: >Drop the other shoe. What are they called in NL? > They're called dogs of course. Male dogs or female dogs. Jeez, I can't believe that one doesn't realize that. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 14:11:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NJBJ6q010018 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:11:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E81FE1E60253; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:08:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61FDB1E60251 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:08:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1A12D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:01:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14719424 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:01:59 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NJ1w531133 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:01:58 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.170.42]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031023190153.DZYF1780.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:01:53 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9825A0.B4E22490@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:01:52 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: More from Crete References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031010134817.0202bfe8@localhost> <200310091207.h99C7P74018289@ra.msstate.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031010231245.00bc9a48@localhost> <5.2.1.1.0.20031011085512.00b3a628@localhost> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023131403.01c2ca98@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen Ore wrote: > http://www.athensnews.gr/athweb/nathens.prnt_article?e=C&f=13036&t=06&m=A24&aa=1 Gorgeous. I want to be there. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 14:18:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NJIT6q010126 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:18:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9E4F51E60254; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:16:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B8BC1E60253 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:16:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1A16F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:09:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14720272 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:09:08 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NJ98500332 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:09:08 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.170.42]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031023190902.EDRT1780.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:09:02 -0400 Message-ID: <3F98274D.150B1D2A@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:09:01 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CCC References: <200310231239.h9NCd6q20718@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > My uncle in Baton Rouge is a card- > carrying member. I wonder whether my friend Clyde (Williams, not Voigtlander) saw him at the Klan meeting he went to as a spy when he was working for a newspaper in BR while a grad student at LSU. Back several years ago when we were talking about KKK on Words-L, I brought up the subject at lunch to ask whether anybody in the group had ever been aware of seeing a Klansperson. Only Clyde had. He told us the story then of going to the meeting while working for the BR newspaper. I think I remember telling that story here and telling about how his daughter called home from college her freshman year at Kenyon in a panic because she had seen a KKK parade or rally or something. She said she had always thought that stuff was just in movies. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 14:19:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NJJP6q010130 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:19:25 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1AB6B1E60253; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:17:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C77C1E6024D for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:17:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1A177@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:10:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14720374 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:10:05 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NJA5500536 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:10:05 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.170.42]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031023190959.EEGU1780.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:09:59 -0400 Message-ID: <3F982786.8016DE2@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:09:58 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CCC References: <20031023131140.18128.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Does this mean that all mail received from you will go > directly into the "bulk" folder, and you will no > longer have access to solutions? :-] Sounds like it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 14:27:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NJRQ6q010235 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:27:26 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C9C961E60253; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:25:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 597451E6024D for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:25:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1A1BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:18:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14721051 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:18:06 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NJI5502263 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:18:06 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.170.42]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031023191800.EIVE1780.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:18:00 -0400 Message-ID: <3F982967.FD68360@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:17:59 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CCC References: <3F971382.E74C5DD2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022211712.00b9d980@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022221159.00bb3d20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023091929.00b26938@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > I don't know what all the rules regarding tribal property are either. I do > know that the Indians need the state's permission to open a gambling > casino. Gambling (other than lottery and something they do at some horse > race venue) is illegal in Maine. All gambling, including lotteries, is illegal in Mississippi unless it's floating on water or is on the reservation. I wonder what my political scientist friend meant today about a state's not being able to say no re casinos. I'm surprised some Wordsler doesn't know the details of the rules. It's an interesting question to me, but I can't research it now since I have to start getting organized for a busy upcoming time period: feeding the cats, feeding Spencder, getting dressed for the political party, putting a tape in the old built-in vcr that I don't remember whether works but which is the only way I can tape from the air as opposed to the dish, and hoping that this party winds down before its official ending hour of 7 so that I can race home and not have to rely on the iffiness of the taping of Survivor. I'm going to have a real problem next week when I will be at a party in Jackson on Thursday night. Maybe I should do some rewiring of the situation to connect the vcr to the tv without its going through the DirecTV box -- thus enabling me to tape that channel. There's a vcr built into the tv set in this room, the one my mother had in the nursing home, but all that it gets from the air is sound and very thick fuzz. It's got only rabbit ears, broken ones at that. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 14:29:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NJT26q010253 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:29:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 441211E60254; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:26:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE7E71E6024D for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:26:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1A1DB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:19:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14721231 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:19:41 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NJJf502663 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:19:41 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.170.42]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031023191935.EJRR1780.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:19:35 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9829C6.DD62DFFD@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:19:34 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pup in the woods References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > That's pretty much what my breeder's opinion is. She says they are remarkably hardy and that he'll be okay. I'm not looking for the easy way out, but I could see it as a temporary help, in addition to some behavioral changes on my part which would lead to better adjustment by him. How long did you take off from work? Iow, how long now have you been leaving him to go to work? If it has been not many days, I'd say there's hope that he will adjust pretty soon. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 14:31:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NJVk6q010311 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:31:46 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9E2FF1E60253; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:29:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BCB81E6024D for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:29:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1A1F6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:22:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14721413 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:22:26 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9NJMP503102 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:22:25 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:22:25 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:14:48 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: oops Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h9NJVk6q010311 MAKUHARI, Japan (Reuters) - General Motors will rename its Buick LaCrosse in Canada because the name for the car is slang for masturbation in Quebec, embarrassed officials with the U.S. automaker say. GM officials, who declined to be named, said on Thursday it had been unaware that LaCrosse was a term for self-gratification among teenagers in French-speaking Quebec. GM officials in Canada are working on a new name for the car, a sedan that will go on sale next year to replace the Buick Regal. The mix-up is reminiscent of another GM vehicle with an unfortunate name. In the 1970s, GM exported its Chevrolet Nova to Mexico and other Spanish-speaking countries, only to be told that Nova translated into "doesn't go". Despite the name, and contrary to popular folklore, the car sold well. ------------------------- BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 14:34:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NJYt6q010323 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:34:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1A9731E60253; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:32:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 874D41E6024D for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:32:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1A201@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:25:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14721743 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:25:34 -0400 Received: from fe3.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NJPX503742 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:25:34 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.199] (HELO bc.edu) by fe3.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.5) with ESMTP id 34452702 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:25:30 -0400 Message-ID: <3F982B2A.80002@bc.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:25:30 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CCC References: <3F971382.E74C5DD2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022211712.00b9d980@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022221159.00bb3d20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023091929.00b26938@pop.gwi.net> <3F982967.FD68360@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <3F982967.FD68360@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie, Check this out! http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/imagine/TIVO.dsp It suddenly occurred to me that you may need to log in to get that page. DirecTV has an offer for subscribers that you NEED to look at. If you haven't registered at their site, you need to ASAP. Rita L. Natalie Maynor wrote: > >putting a tape in the old built-in vcr that I don't >remember whether works but which is the only way I can tape from the air >as opposed to the dish, and hoping that this party winds down before its >official ending hour of 7 so that I can race home and not have to rely >on the iffiness of the taping of Survivor. I'm going to have a real >problem next week when I will be at a party in Jackson on Thursday >night. Maybe I should do some rewiring of the situation to connect the >vcr to the tv without its going through the DirecTV box -- thus enabling >me to tape that channel. There's a vcr built into the tv set in this >room, the one my mother had in the nursing home, but all that it gets >from the air is sound and very thick fuzz. It's got only rabbit ears, >broken ones at that. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > -- Rita Leonard Information Technology Systems Services O'Neill Library 544 Phone: 617-552-3403 Email: rita.leonard@bc.edu "Whether you believe you can do a thing or not, you are right." Henry Ford From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 14:35:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NJZ16q010326 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:35:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A87D41E60256; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:32:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 425961E60253 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:32:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1A21C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:25:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14721747 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:25:41 -0400 Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.74]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NJPf503754 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:25:41 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HN800DIP5YSW1@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:25:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.135] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:22:00 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:22:00 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Pup in the woods To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > How long did you take off from work? Iow, how long now have you been > leaving him to go to work? If it has been not many days, I'd say > there's hope that he will adjust pretty soon. This was actually day three in terms of whole days with just one visit from the dog walker. So not long. I hope you're right. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 14:37:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NJbg6q010383 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:37:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9C20D1E6024D; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:35:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51C881E60253 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:35:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001B98A3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:28:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14721940 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:28:12 -0400 Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NJSC504280 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:28:12 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HN800IE462Z8Z@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:28:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.135] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:24:32 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:24:32 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Pup in the woods To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > In a message dated 10/23/2003 10:24:49 AM, 14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET > writes: > >That's pretty much what my breeder's opinion is. She says they > are remarkably > >hardy and that he'll be okay. I'm not looking for the easy way > out, but > >I could see it as a temporary help, in addition to some > behavioral changes > >on my part which would lead to better adjustment by him. > > > I think I made my point about dogs copying their owners, don't you > think?Theo That's probably why he needs a couple of stiff drinks and a couple pills. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 14:44:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NJiQ6q010455 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:44:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 91B201E60256; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:41:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45D8E1E6024D for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:41:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1A283@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:35:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14722708 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:35:03 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NJZ2505507 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:35:02 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.170.42]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031023193457.JUHH1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:34:57 -0400 Message-ID: <3F982D60.E41D4882@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:34:56 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pup in the woods References: <1db.130aa986.2cc97f4e@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > > In a message dated 10/23/2003 12:26:50 PM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: > > >Drop the other shoe. What are they called in NL? > > > > They're called dogs of course. Male dogs or female dogs. > Jeez, I can't believe that one doesn't realize that. ? You can't believe that everybody doesn't know Dutch animal terminology? I find that quite strange. Even in talking about kinship terminology and animal terminology and such in teaching courses like Language and Culture, I certainly don't know the terms in very many languages of the world. And I find topics like that interesting, like the various cattle terms in English, with "cow" used somewhat generically but with no general term for the male counterpart, while we tend to use the male term "dog" generically, except for official talk among dog-show people or breeders, and how French has different words for people's hair and non-human animals' hair, etc. etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 14:46:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NJkd6q010465 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:46:39 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 167F51E60258; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:44:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C590C1E6025B for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:44:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1A28C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:37:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14722815 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:37:18 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NJbI505751 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:37:18 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.170.42]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031023193713.JVJH1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:37:13 -0400 Message-ID: <3F982DE8.F797E905@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:37:12 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pup in the woods References: <1db.130aa986.2cc97f4e@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU PS: And I'm surprised that dogs are called dogs in Dutch. I would have guessed something cognate with hound. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 14:47:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NJlV6q010498 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:47:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 807571E60259; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:45:06 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3177A1E60256 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:45:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1A28F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:38:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14722853 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:38:11 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NJcA505864 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:38:11 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.170.42]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031023193805.JVTN1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:38:05 -0400 Message-ID: <3F982E1C.B2806554@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:38:04 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pup in the woods References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > This was actually day three in terms of whole days with just one visit from the dog walker. So not long. I hope you're right. I really do think it's too early to be convinced that he won't adapt. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 14:51:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NJpK6q010538 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:51:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 537D71E60254; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:48:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF9E41E6024D for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:48:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1A293@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:41:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14723120 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:41:59 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NJfx506320 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:41:59 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.170.42]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031023194154.JXLB1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:41:54 -0400 Message-ID: <3F982F00.3AC31374@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:41:52 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CCC References: <3F971382.E74C5DD2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022211712.00b9d980@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022221159.00bb3d20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023091929.00b26938@pop.gwi.net> <3F982967.FD68360@maynor.net> <3F982B2A.80002@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: > > Natalie, > > Check this out! http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/imagine/TIVO.dsp > > It suddenly occurred to me that you may need to log in to get that > page. DirecTV has an offer for subscribers that you NEED to look at. > If you haven't registered at their site, you need to ASAP. I'll look more carefully later. I need to log off now. But isn't tivo something that works only with the dish channels? I don't have any problem at all taping anything that comes via the dish. My problem is that the vcr is connected through the DirecTV box, which means that that box has to be on for the vcr to work. And when that box is on, there's no way I can get CBS, which is what Survivor is on. I get it by turning off the DirecTV box. The little antenna connected to the dish still works, making the picture quite good, but the dish receiver is off. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 14:51:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NJpQ6q010549 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:51:26 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1BCFD1E60254; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:49:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95C9D1E6024D for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:49:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1A2AE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:42:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14723126 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:42:05 -0400 Received: from web20512.mail.yahoo.com (web20512.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9NJg5506371 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:42:05 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20512.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:42:04 PDT Message-ID: <20031023194204.53700.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:42:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Pup in the woods To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1db.130aa986.2cc97f4e@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > They're called dogs of course. Male dogs or female > dogs. > Jeez, I can't believe that one doesn't realize that. In Amercan and British usage, the word "dog" is specific to the male. The wider usage has come with evolution and not a little laziness. And all "dogs" are "sons-of-bitches". __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 14:53:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NJrn6q010579 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:53:49 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 944FF1E60256; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:51:24 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BF6F1E60254 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:51:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1A2B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:44:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14723453 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:44:29 -0400 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9NJiS507040 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:44:28 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:44:27 PDT Message-ID: <20031023194427.74714.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:44:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F98255C.BF3B90ED@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The > Mississippi Choctaw > compact specifies that the state gets no taxes, but > some states have > compacts that promise tax money to them. He said > that the relationship > between reservations and states are complicated -- > that in some ways > they're citizens of the state, like voting in state > elections and such, > but that it some ways they're totally independent. Thanks. Good information. Did you see the White Dog today? Are you still on the case? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 14:58:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NJwM6q010631 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:58:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 941171E60258; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:55:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E5011E60256 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:55:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1A2DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:49:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14723718 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:49:02 -0400 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NJn2507764 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:49:02 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.104.3816a3b6 (3996) for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:48:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <104.3816a3b6.2cc98a75@aol.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:48:05 EDT Subject: Re: Pup in the woods To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/23/2003 1:37:30 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >PS: And I'm surprised that dogs are called dogs in Dutch. I would have >guessed something cognate with hound. > You're right, but I suspected you'd have trouble with honden. Hond is singular, honden is plural. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 15:01:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NK186q010647 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:01:08 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8EAF51E60258; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:58:43 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 436111E60254 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:58:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1A2EF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:51:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14723903 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:51:48 -0400 Received: from fe2.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NJpm508208 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:51:48 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.199] (HELO bc.edu) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.5) with ESMTP id 33285296 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:51:47 -0400 Message-ID: <3F983153.4040904@bc.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:51:47 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CCC References: <3F971382.E74C5DD2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022211712.00b9d980@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022221159.00bb3d20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023091929.00b26938@pop.gwi.net> <3F982967.FD68360@maynor.net> <3F982B2A.80002@bc.edu> <3F982F00.3AC31374@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <3F982F00.3AC31374@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Oh! Yes. Sorry about that. I forget that most people are able to get their local TV channels without the aid of the dish. The reception in our area is so bad that we subscribe to DirecTV for the locals in addition to the regular packages. Botheration! I guess you will need to investigate some rewiring at some point. Rita L. Natalie Maynor wrote: > But isn't tivo >something that works only with the dish channels? > > -- Rita Leonard Information Technology Systems Services O'Neill Library 544 Phone: 617-552-3403 Email: rita.leonard@bc.edu "Whether you believe you can do a thing or not, you are right." Henry Ford From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 15:27:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NKRe6q010943 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:27:43 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 777B51E60260; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:25:10 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46E481E6025F for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:25:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1A3E2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:18:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14726321 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:18:15 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9NKIF512651 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:18:15 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:18:15 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Beta Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:10:17 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Pup in the woods Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h9NKRe6q010943 There must be an awful lot of dog owners out there who go 'round sniffin' each other's butts then. BrP >>> Dutchessg1@AOL.COM 10/23/03 02:43PM >>> I think I made my point about dogs copying their owners, don't you think? Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 16:16:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NLG96q011196 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:16:09 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3E1511E6025F; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:13:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B5001E6025D for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:13:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1A765@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:06:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14733125 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:06:49 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NL6m522664 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:06:48 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-163.gwi.net [216.195.152.163]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9NL6kAr041457 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:06:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031023165731.00b3bfa0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:06:54 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos In-Reply-To: <3F98255C.BF3B90ED@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >He said that the relationship >between reservations and states are complicated -- that in some ways >they're citizens of the state, like voting in state elections and such, >but that it some ways they're totally independent. > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) And it varies quite a bit from state to state. In Maine, a deal was struck in 1980 involving money and land and rights. Quoting from today's local newspaper: "The two Maine tribes that want to start a casino in Sanford signed a land claims settlement act in 1980 that gave three tribes $81.5 million and the right to buy back disputed lands, but also limited the tribes' sovereignty. According to the settlement act, the Penobscot Indian Nation and the Passamaquoddy Tribe are, essentially, municipalities. A tribal court deals with certain crimes committed on the reservation, and tribal elections and other internal tribal matters are beyond the reach of any outside government. But otherwise all laws of the state apply to the tribes and their members." In other local news, a 109 foot tour boat broke its mooring during last week's storm and washed up on Bar Island. The owner of the boat has gone off to Cancun while The National Park Service and the Coast Guard decide whose job it is to get the boat off the rocks. It looks amazing sitting there in full view of the town. Full story with pictures at: http://www.mountdesertislander.com/thisweek/10-23-03/mdi_news6_10-23-03.html bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 16:20:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NLK06q011219 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:20:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9045B1E60261; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:17:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EE731E6025F for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:17:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1A787@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:10:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14733428 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:10:39 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NLAd523343 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:10:39 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001B9C94@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:10:38 -0400 Message-Id: <200310232110.h9NLAd523343@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:10:39 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: another word for Borkin To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:01:39 -0700, Ann Borkin wrote: >On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> I merely objected to associating WHORE with "illiterate". > >Oh good. Words-l is the -home- of literate WHORES. I even have the >t-shirt. > >Ann Rub it in. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 16:21:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NLLH6q011237 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:21:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AF1F01E60262; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:18:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CAA21E60261 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:18:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1A7A2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:11:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14733543 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:11:56 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NLBu523591 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:11:56 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001B9C84@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:11:56 -0400 Message-Id: <200310232111.h9NLBu523591@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:11:56 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Pup in the woods To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:19:17 EDT, Theo Groothof wrote: >In a message dated 10/23/2003 6:06:12 AM, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: > >>No, Theo, it's a pun - you said dogs resemble their masters. If a female >>dog is a bitch, then its mistress must be ... >> >I didn't say resemble; copy their owners is what I said. Aside from that; I'm >Dutch, and Dutch female dogs are never called bitches. >Theo Wow, that's the best comeback I've ever heard. Can I be Dutch? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 16:22:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NLMt6q011253 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:22:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1F6511E6025F; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:20:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5D6A1E6025D for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:20:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1A7C5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:13:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14733739 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:13:35 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NLDY523994 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:13:34 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-163.gwi.net [216.195.152.163]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9NLDXGn041473 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:13:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031023171101.00b9b320@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:13:41 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: CCC In-Reply-To: <3F982B2A.80002@bc.edu> References: <3F982967.FD68360@maynor.net> <3F971382.E74C5DD2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022211712.00b9d980@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022221159.00bb3d20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023091929.00b26938@pop.gwi.net> <3F982967.FD68360@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Natalie, >Check this out! http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/imagine/TIVO.dsp > >It suddenly occurred to me that you may need to log in to get that >page. DirecTV has an offer for subscribers that you NEED to look at. >If you haven't registered at their site, you need to ASAP. >Rita L. Imho, TIVO is very complicated to use and costs lots of money, including a monthly subscription. In any case, I don't think it would help Natalie because what she wants to record tonight is not coming through DirecTV. We have the same situation. But we get the network channels (ABC, NBC, etc) through cable. And that cable is split when in comes to the house. The upstairs TV is only on the cable, not polluted by DirecTV. Thus it is simple and straightforward to record things on the upstairs TV. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 16:26:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NLQs6q011259 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:26:54 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 06CD21E6025F; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:24:29 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8D4F1E6025D for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:24:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1A7D9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:17:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14734086 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:17:34 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NLHX524866 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:17:33 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-163.gwi.net [216.195.152.163]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9NLHVGn042189 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:17:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031023171520.034b0e80@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:17:40 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: CCC In-Reply-To: <3F983153.4040904@bc.edu> References: <3F982F00.3AC31374@maynor.net> <3F971382.E74C5DD2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022211712.00b9d980@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022221159.00bb3d20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023091929.00b26938@pop.gwi.net> <3F982967.FD68360@maynor.net> <3F982B2A.80002@bc.edu> <3F982F00.3AC31374@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > The reception in >our area is so bad that we subscribe to DirecTV for the locals in >addition to the regular packages. Botheration! --Rita L. You are lucky that you are allowed to do that. DirecTV will not give us the local channels simply because we can get them, and have gotten them in the recent past before DirecTV, through a local cable company. If we were allowed, we would get the East Coast feed for the network channels. We wouldn't get the channels in any case. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 16:39:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NLcv6q011321 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:39:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1798B1E60261; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:35:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D89471E6025F for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:35:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1A82C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:28:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14734905 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:28:51 -0400 Received: from fe3.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NLSo526822 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:28:50 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.199] (HELO bc.edu) by fe3.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.5) with ESMTP id 34461731 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:27:49 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9847D5.8070509@bc.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:27:49 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CCC References: <3F982F00.3AC31374@maynor.net> <3F971382.E74C5DD2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022211712.00b9d980@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022221159.00bb3d20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023091929.00b26938@pop.gwi.net> <3F982967.FD68360@maynor.net> <3F982B2A.80002@bc.edu> <3F982F00.3AC31374@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023171520.034b0e80@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031023171520.034b0e80@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > You are lucky that you are allowed to do that. DirecTV will not give us > the local channels simply because we can get them, and have gotten > them in > the recent past before DirecTV, through a local cable company. If we > were > allowed, we would get the East Coast feed for the network channels. We > wouldn't get the channels in any case. > I didn't think about the amount of "terminology" that surrounds TV. No, we don't get channels either if you mean things like community channels. My reference to local channels is the network feed for the Boston area including some of southern New Hampshire. We did go through a period when DirecTV was not permitted to deliver them to us but we "got over it" a while back. Also, I hope to find out that you are wrong about tivo. Right now it looks like we can add a receiver with tivo for $99.00 installed. The monthly fee is listed as a $4.99 add on if we commit to a one-year Total Choice (Premiere?) package. Not hard to do since we already have that subscription. I'll let you know how it goes :-) Rita L. -- Rita Leonard Information Technology Systems Services O'Neill Library 544 Phone: 617-552-3403 Email: rita.leonard@bc.edu "Whether you believe you can do a thing or not, you are right." Henry Ford From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 16:40:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NLem6q011328 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:40:48 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D8C501E60262; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:38:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44F421E6025F for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:38:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001B9D35@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:31:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14735136 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:31:26 -0400 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NLVP527356 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:31:25 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.71.366cce98 (4230) for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:31:09 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <71.366cce98.2cc9a29d@aol.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:31:09 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] another word for Borkin To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/23/2003 7:55:40 AM Central Daylight Time, sylvar@VAXER.NET writes: << Perhaps then the working class would start doing their bit to revive the economy the way the RRSOBs have been. >> "Really, if the lower orders don't set the rest of us a good example; what on Earth is the use of them? They seem to, as a class, have absolutely no sense of moral responsibility." -- "The Importance of Being Earnest" Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 16:50:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NLoM6q011394 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:50:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BFB6C1E60263; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:47:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 515291E60262 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:47:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1A868@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:41:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14735500 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:41:01 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NLf1528386 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:41:01 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-163.gwi.net [216.195.152.163]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9NLexGn046555 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:41:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031023173534.00b9b460@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:41:08 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: CCC In-Reply-To: <3F9847D5.8070509@bc.edu> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031023171520.034b0e80@pop.gwi.net> <3F982F00.3AC31374@maynor.net> <3F971382.E74C5DD2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022211712.00b9d980@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022221159.00bb3d20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023091929.00b26938@pop.gwi.net> <3F982967.FD68360@maynor.net> <3F982B2A.80002@bc.edu> <3F982F00.3AC31374@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023171520.034b0e80@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Also, I hope to find out that you are wrong about tivo. Right now it >looks like we can add a receiver with tivo for $99.00 installed. The >monthly fee is listed as a $4.99 add on if we commit to a one-year Total >Choice (Premiere?) package. Not hard to do since we already have that >subscription. I'll let you know how it goes :-) >Rita L. I hope you enjoy it. Our daughter and her husband, out in the Seattle area, have it. They utterly completely totally love it. They cannot now live without it as they discovered when it had to be in the shop for a few weeks. It automatically searches and records and stores any number of things. I played with their remote for a bit and got totally confused. Too much information. Too much available stuff to record. I strive to simplify my life. But, again, I hope you enjoy it and are not overwhelmed. The price you were quoted doesn't look bad. The $4.99 a month is the usual. $99 is pretty cheap. When you buy a machine with Tivo it usually costs $200+. One year of Total Choice could be as much as $80 a month, though. We have the standard package of channels from DirecTV plus the Starz channels: $41.95 a month. And then, of course, there is the NFL Sunday Ticket, the price of which I don't want to discuss. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 16:55:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NLt66q011414 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:55:06 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5BD9F1E60265; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:52:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A4591E60264 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:52:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1A875@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:45:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14735619 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:45:45 -0400 Received: from imo-r01.mx.aol.com (imo-r01.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.97]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NLjj528909 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:45:45 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.9b.3f9dec1c (4560) for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:45:14 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <9b.3f9dec1c.2cc9a5ea@aol.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:45:14 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Cats To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/23/2003 10:51:31 AM Central Daylight Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << Another American cultural icon dashed to the stones by jmw. But it gets worse. Mary Pickford never said anything. >> She did make several sound films, including "Taming of the Shrew" with her then husband, Douglas Fairbanks. But I've always preferred the Gish sisters. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 17:03:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NM3T6q011471 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:03:30 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 19D7D1E60263; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:00:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB6681E60261 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:00:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001B9DF3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:54:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14737020 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:53:55 -0400 Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NLrt530604 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:53:55 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.18a.21171322 (4560) for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:53:37 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <18a.21171322.2cc9a7e1@aol.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:53:37 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Here is the latest To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/23/2003 7:13:38 AM Central Daylight Time, toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM writes: << The doctors have settled on a diagnosis of renal cyst, which believe me is a great relief. >> That's great news! And I know the doctors want to be thorough, just in case. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 17:10:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NMAv6q011512 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:10:57 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B876E1E60262; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:08:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 861C81E60261 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:08:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1A93B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:01:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14737486 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:01:36 -0400 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NM1a531636 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:01:36 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9NM1XNt027206 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:01:33 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3F984F79.2090108@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:00:25 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pup in the woods References: <1db.130aa986.2cc97f4e@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > In a message dated 10/23/2003 12:26:50 PM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: > > >>Drop the other shoe. What are they called in NL? >> >> > > They're called dogs of course. Male dogs or female dogs. > Jeez, I can't believe that one doesn't realize that. Unlike you, Theo, some people don't realize that English has a much larger vocabulary than other languages, such as Dutch. This allows English to be much more specific in many cases, such as when describing dogs. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 17:13:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NMDk6q011528 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:13:46 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8A3171E60264; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:11:20 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C8971E60263 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:11:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1A934@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:04:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14737572 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:04:25 -0400 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NM4P531882 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:04:25 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9NM4MNt001263 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:04:23 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3F985023.20009@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:03:15 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pup in the woods References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen wrote: >> From: Lynne Weber >> >>> Please do not get him started on medication. That is >> >> a dreadful slippery path, and is often just the >> easiest way out for the master/mistress. He is not >> torn by neuroses. He's a dog, for land sakes. > > > This makes no sense. If he is, as you say, just a dog, what's the problem > with medicating him? He's not gonna move to harder and harder drugs and > start knocking over 7-11s to feed his habit. But more to the point, why > can't a dog be torn by neuroses? Separation anxiety is almost certainly a > kind of neurotic behavior. The benefits of talk therapy for dogs are little > understood, but probably nil. If medication can relieve his anxiety and > make his owners' lives a little easier, without drastically altering his > personality, why not use meds? Marie, being a good parent, will teach him to Just Say No to Drugs. Actually, the recommended medication is herbal, and it doesn't alter the personality at all. It just takes the edge off so that the anxiety doesn't become self-reinforcing. It's usually only necessary for a couple of weeks at the most. Or, you could go hard-core and give him bute! -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 17:40:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NMeK6q011762 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:40:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8B1011E60262; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:37:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53B6F1E60261 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:37:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1AA09@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:30:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14739545 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:30:56 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NMUu502426 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:30:56 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-175.inebraska.com [206.222.202.175]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9NMUqth002003 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:30:54 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3F98255C.BF3B90ED@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:30:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I asked at lunch today about the relationship of the Choctaw casino to > the state -- whether the state had anything to do with its beginnings, > etc. A political scientist said that a compact is required before a > casino can be opened but that the state (any state) cannot just say no > -- that the details worked out can vary from one place to another but > the state has to allow the casino to be built. The Mississippi Choctaw > compact specifies that the state gets no taxes, but some states have > compacts that promise tax money to them. He said that the relationship > between reservations and states are complicated -- that in some ways > they're citizens of the state, like voting in state elections and such, > but that it some ways they're totally independent. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Interesting that you're discussing casinos. I have a renewed interest in them because I just invested in two companies that make slot machines . . largely because the casinos not only constantly replace to newer type machines, but also because they are almost completely phasing into new machines that use paper rather than coins. For instance, Harrah's just ordered 11,000 new machines. That's business. On a personal level, I went to an Indian casino just the other day, to entertain a guest who wanted to go. Interesting places. But would I want my community to have one. No! I have read however that more and more states will be voting for casinos because they need income desparately. Another reason for my investment. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 17:44:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NMiS6q011786 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:44:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 28C601E60262; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:42:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EADFD1E60261 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:42:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001B9F40@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:35:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14740128 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:35:05 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NMZ5503066 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:35:05 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-175.inebraska.com [206.222.202.175]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9NMZ2th013896 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:35:04 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <006501c399b5$d66b6a80$afcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3F982F00.3AC31374@maynor.net> <3F971382.E74C5DD2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022211712.00b9d980@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022221159.00bb3d20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023091929.00b26938@pop.gwi.net> <3F982967.FD68360@maynor.net> <3F982B2A.80002@bc.edu> <3F982F00.3AC31374@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023171520.034b0e80@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: Re: CCC Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:34:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > The reception in > >our area is so bad that we subscribe to DirecTV for the locals in > >addition to the regular packages. Botheration! --Rita L. > > You are lucky that you are allowed to do that. DirecTV will not give us > the local channels simply because we can get them, and have gotten them in > the recent past before DirecTV, through a local cable company. If we were > allowed, we would get the East Coast feed for the network channels. We > wouldn't get the channels in any case. > > > bonnie We installed the dish and used it for a while but disconnected because we couldn't get local stations. News from NYC and San Fran just didn't cut it. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 18:45:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NNjo6q012057 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:45:50 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 108D21E60265; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:43:24 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F071E60264 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:43:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1AC13@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:36:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14744315 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:36:28 -0400 Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com (imo-r06.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.102]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NNaS512303 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:36:28 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.175.2156c3ea (18403) for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:35:54 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <175.2156c3ea.2cc9bfda@aol.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:35:54 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] CCC To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/23/2003 5:35:11 PM Central Daylight Time, dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM writes: << We installed the dish and used it for a while but disconnected because we couldn't get local stations. News from NYC and San Fran just didn't cut it. >> It would be nice to get local stations from other areas. I'd love to get not only the Tulsa local stations, but the Cleveland ones, too. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 18:52:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NNqs6q012134 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:52:54 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4119E1E60265; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:50:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08F1F1E60051 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:50:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1AC12@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:43:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14744605 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:43:33 -0400 Received: from vbn.inter-touch.net ([194.205.224.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NNhW513072 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:43:32 -0400 Received: from test2kserver (unknown [10.5.0.53]) by vbn.inter-touch.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D341340804 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 23:43:31 +0000 (/etc/localtime) From: "Tony Harminc" To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:40:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Last night in London Message-ID: <3F982EB4.13766.101EE42@localhost> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I can't believe it's been almost two weeks. I should've known it'd drag on, but as usual I was overoptimistic. But it's been fun for the most part - got to see various people (Hi Roy) and places I've been away from for years, and saw a few things I'd somehow missed in the past, e.g. St. Paul's. Did I mention my visit to the house I spent my first two years in? No memories, sadly, and now it has an unfortunate new association. Drank too much beer a few times, wore myself out with walking, spent most of the time locked in a cold computer room. :-( But it's over, and tomorrow night I'll be in my own bed. Heathrow here I come - I gather I'll miss the last Concorde flight by an hour or so. Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 18:58:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9NNwF6q012164 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:58:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 430381E60265; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:55:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10A181E60264 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:55:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1AC3C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:48:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14744847 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:48:54 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9NNmr513619 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:48:53 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-175.inebraska.com [206.222.202.175]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9NNmoth014160 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:48:52 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000401c399c0$25aa6380$afcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3F982EB4.13766.101EE42@localhost> Subject: Re: Last night in London Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:48:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I can't believe it's been almost two weeks. I should've known it'd > drag on, but as usual I was overoptimistic. But it's been fun for > the most part - got to see various people (Hi Roy) and places I've > been away from for years, and saw a few things I'd somehow missed > in the past, e.g. St. Paul's. Did I mention my visit to the house I > spent my first two years in? No memories, sadly, and now it has an > unfortunate new association. > > Drank too much beer a few times, wore myself out with walking, > spent most of the time locked in a cold computer room. :-( But it's > over, and tomorrow night I'll be in my own bed. > > Heathrow here I come - I gather I'll miss the last Concorde flight > by an hour or so. > > Tony H. > I can't imagine anything more delightful than drinking too much beer in London pubs. Last time I did that I made some marvelous friends from Wales. They were so kind. Sent a tray of (horses ovaries) to our table and then asked us to join them in singing. The beer made us fast friends, and we all exchanged addresses. I think perhaps we should drink beer with the muslims of Iraq. Oh-oh. I guess that isn't an option. Sorry. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 19:39:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9O0dc6q012287 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:39:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EE7071E60268; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:37:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B98931E60267 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:37:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1ACCE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:30:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14746429 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:30:16 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9O0UG517387 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:30:16 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-163.gwi.net [216.195.152.163]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9O0UDAt084095; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:30:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031023202648.00b4e5b8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:30:11 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos In-Reply-To: <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> References: <3F98255C.BF3B90ED@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:30 PM 10/23/2003 -0500, Doris Markland wrote: >On a personal level, I went to an Indian casino just the other day, >to entertain a guest who wanted to go. Interesting places. But would >I want my community to have one. No! Generally, I agree. However, there is one casino in northwestern Wisconsin which serves no alcohol and wherein the tribe devotes all of the profits toward the education of their children. This seems to me to worthwhile. The one proposed in Maine, however, I will oppose with my vote. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 20:19:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9O1Jq6q012483 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:19:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 235591E60010; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:17:25 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3DB31E60009 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:17:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1AD7E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:10:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14748148 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:10:29 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9O1A7521012 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:10:07 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9O1A68b004103 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:10:06 -0400 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9O1A6fC015730 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:10:06 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:10:06 -0400 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CCC Message-ID: <621928171.1066943406@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <3F982F00.3AC31374@maynor.net> References: <3F971382.E74C5DD2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022211712.00b9d980@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022221159.00bb3d20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023091929.00b26938@pop.gwi.net> <3F982967.FD68360@maynor.net> <3F982B2A.80002@bc.edu> <3F982F00.3AC31374@maynor.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I get it by turning > off the DirecTV box. The little antenna connected to the dish still > works, making the picture quite good, but the dish receiver is off. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) We have an A/B switch box to back and forth between dish and antenna. The wiring situation looks like the snake pit in Raiders of the Lost Ark. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 20:21:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9O1Lo6q012489 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:21:50 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 665481E60268; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:19:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 305281E60267 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:19:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001BA1C1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:12:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14748333 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:12:28 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9O1CR521368 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:12:27 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9O1CR8b004173 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:12:27 -0400 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9O1CRfC016105 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:12:27 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:12:27 -0400 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CCC Message-ID: <622069265.1066943547@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <3F983153.4040904@bc.edu> References: <3F971382.E74C5DD2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022211712.00b9d980@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022221159.00bb3d20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023091929.00b26938@pop.gwi.net> <3F982967.FD68360@maynor.net> <3F982B2A.80002@bc.edu> <3F982F00.3AC31374@maynor.net> <3F983153.4040904@bc.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Oh! Yes. Sorry about that. I forget that most people are able to get > their local TV channels without the aid of the dish. The reception in > our area is so bad that we subscribe to DirecTV for the locals in > addition to the regular packages. Botheration! I guess you will need > to investigate some rewiring at some point. > > Rita L. > Rita, Are you happy with this service? We've received a card and I need to explore it further as our local reception is horrible. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 20:23:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9O1NA6q012494 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:23:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CC5201E60267; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:20:43 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E04B1E60010 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:20:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1AD8B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:13:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14748386 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:13:48 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9O1Dm521489 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:13:48 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9O1Dl8b004209 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:13:47 -0400 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9O1DlfC016289 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:13:47 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:13:47 -0400 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pup in the woods Message-ID: <622149203.1066943627@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > There must be an awful lot of dog owners out there who go 'round sniffin' > each other's butts then. > BrP Carefully disguised as picking up change from the floor. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 20:30:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9O1UK6q012541 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:30:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2AD021E60268; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:27:53 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC2071E6000F for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:27:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1ADAC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:20:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14748656 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:20:57 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9O1Kv522031 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:20:57 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9O1Kv8b004350 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:20:57 -0400 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9O1KvfC017278 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:20:57 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:20:56 -0400 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CCC Message-ID: <622578718.1066944056@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <3F9847D5.8070509@bc.edu> References: <3F982F00.3AC31374@maynor.net> <3F971382.E74C5DD2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022211712.00b9d980@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022221159.00bb3d20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023091929.00b26938@pop.gwi.net> <3F982967.FD68360@maynor.net> <3F982B2A.80002@bc.edu> <3F982F00.3AC31374@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023171520.034b0e80@pop.gwi.net> <3F9847D5.8070509@bc.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Also, I hope to find out that you are wrong about tivo. Right now it > looks like we can add a receiver with tivo for $99.00 installed. The > monthly fee is listed as a $4.99 add on if we commit to a one-year Total > Choice (Premiere?) package. Not hard to do since we already have that > subscription. I'll let you know how it goes :-) > > Rita L. > We have Tivo, bought the box and then instead of the monthly subscription paid the one time use fee. It does take some getting used to, but even Lillia and Will now set up scheduled shows to tape. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 20:34:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9O1Yf6q012557 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:34:41 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C48D01E60269; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:32:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 927851E60268 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:32:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1ADDD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:25:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14749042 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:25:18 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9O1PI522847 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:25:18 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-163.gwi.net [216.195.152.163]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9O1PGAr092978 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:25:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031023212434.00bae038@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:25:24 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: CCC In-Reply-To: <006501c399b5$d66b6a80$afcadece@0018079268> References: <3F982F00.3AC31374@maynor.net> <3F971382.E74C5DD2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022211712.00b9d980@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022221159.00bb3d20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023091929.00b26938@pop.gwi.net> <3F982967.FD68360@maynor.net> <3F982B2A.80002@bc.edu> <3F982F00.3AC31374@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023171520.034b0e80@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >We installed the dish and used it for a while >but disconnected because we couldn't get >local stations. News from NYC and San Fran >just didn't cut it. - D. M. That wouldn't bother me one bit. Our local channels are Bangor which isn't Bar Harbor, by a long shot. We don't even read the Bangor newspaper except on weekends. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 20:45:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9O1jq6q012640 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:45:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 685361E60269; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:43:25 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 353D11E6000F for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:43:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1AE0E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:36:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14749601 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:36:30 -0400 Received: from web20503.mail.yahoo.com (web20503.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.138]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9O1aT523826 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:36:29 -0400 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:36:29 PDT Message-ID: <20031024013629.99157.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:36:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Pup in the woods To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F985023.20009@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Or, you could go hard-core > and give > him bute! Let him have a few bitches over to main-line oxycontin. > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 20:48:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9O1mP6q012652 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:48:25 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F1C971E60012; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:45:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD8891E6000F for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:45:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1AE07@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:39:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14749701 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:39:02 -0400 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9O1d2524091 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:39:02 -0400 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:39:01 PDT Message-ID: <20031024013901.72141.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:39:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU in two companies > that make slot machines > . . largely because the casinos not only constantly > replace to newer > type machines, but also because they are almost > completely phasing > into new machines that use paper rather than coins. > For instance, > Harrah's just ordered 11,000 new machines. That's > business. > > On a personal level, I went to an Indian casino just > the other day, > to entertain a guest who wanted to go. Interesting > places. But would > I want my community to have one. No! I have read > however that > more and more states will be voting for casinos > because they need > income desparately. Another reason for my > investment. Uhm. Sound investment, I should say. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 21:00:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9O20J6q012702 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:00:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2270C1E60269; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:57:29 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E541E1E6000E for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:57:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001BA271@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:50:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14749992 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:50:33 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9O1oW524996 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:50:33 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-163.gwi.net [216.195.152.163]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9O1oVAr096882 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:50:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031023214922.00bb3f70@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:50:40 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos In-Reply-To: <20031024013901.72141.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> References: <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > more and more states will be voting for casinos > > because they need income desparately. Another reason > >for my investment. > >Uhm. Sound investment, I should say. Frankly, I'm stunned that Doris is making money off the sins of other people. What would Alyce say? bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 21:01:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9O21m6q012708 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:01:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AD5571E60018; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:59:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 799701E60011 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:59:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001BA252@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:52:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14750015 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:51:45 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9O1pS525088 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:51:28 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.179.94]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031024015122.PLYR1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:51:23 -0400 Message-ID: <3F98859A.C27F4C7B@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:51:22 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos References: <20031023194427.74714.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Did you see the White Dog today? Are you still on the case? No, I did not. And yes, I am still on the case. The Pres of the OCHS (Oktibbeha County Humane Society) doesn't know the answer. I may call the shelter tomorrow and inquire. Can't go by there since there's no time slot in tomorrow's schedule to allow it. The party for Monica Banks, incumbent Chancery Clerk, was good. A funny story: The mayor walked up and spoke to my astronomer friend who was very briefly a Wordsler a year or so ago when he was in Toulouse. Pat, the astronomer, said, "Your name sounds familiar. What do you do?" The mayor replied, "I'm Mayor of Starkville." That is sooo typical of Pat. He is a brilliant physicist, is well read, knows all kinds of interesting things about the world, but he doesn't know the names of the streets in Starkville (though they've lived here for twenty years now), doesn't know the names of local politicians, doesn't know anything about MSU sports (though he's an avid follower of professional football), etc. And the good news is that I got home in time to watch Survivor. The built-in vcr did click on on schedule and then off on schedule. I'll check the tape tomorrow to see whether it worked. I remember that something was amiss about that built-in vcr, but I can't remember what. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) PS: The cats were alive and well around 3 p.m. Ugly is still outside, so the litter box isn't getting unduly full and stinky. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 21:02:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9O2246q012711 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:02:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B87B11E60011; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:59:33 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 871051E6000E for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:59:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1AE36@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:52:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14750042 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:52:38 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9O1qc525181 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:52:38 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.179.94]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031024015233.PMIN1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:52:33 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9885E0.3BE2013D@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:52:32 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pup in the woods References: <104.3816a3b6.2cc98a75@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > >PS: And I'm surprised that dogs are called dogs in Dutch. I would have > >guessed something cognate with hound. > > > You're right, but I suspected you'd have trouble with honden. > Hond is singular, honden is plural. ? Why did you suspect I'd have trouble with honden? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 21:08:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9O28D6q012724 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:08:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 147001E60269; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:05:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D37581E6000E for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:05:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001BA2C4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:58:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14751558 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:58:50 -0400 Received: from web20501.mail.yahoo.com (web20501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.136]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9O1wo527887 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:58:50 -0400 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:58:49 PDT Message-ID: <20031024015849.85972.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:58:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F98859A.C27F4C7B@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > streets in Starkville (though they've lived here for > twenty years now), > doesn't know the names of local politicians, doesn't > know anything about > MSU sports (though he's an avid follower of > professional football), etc. Today, I found myself behind a truck with a rear bumper sticker that read, "Mississippi State University Grandpa" - and it was - Josh Blades' granddad Richard. Please pursue the White Dog case. It's possible you may find WD, Ms. Kay, and T.S. all assembled in some bizarre locale. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 21:09:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9O29w6q012728 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:09:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9F67B1E6000E; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:07:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 663281E60018 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:07:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1AF52@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:00:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14752136 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:00:31 -0400 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9O208530004 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:00:08 -0400 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:00:08 PDT Message-ID: <20031024020008.71693.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:00:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Pup in the woods To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F9885E0.3BE2013D@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Hond is singular, honden is plural. > > ? Why did you suspect I'd have trouble with honden? It was my concern you might have trouble with katzen. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 21:13:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9O2Dw6q012759 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:13:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7E4971E60018; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:11:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BDD21E6000E for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:11:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1AF58@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:04:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14753057 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:04:36 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9O24a530679 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:04:36 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.179.94]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031024020430.XFCL1789.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:04:30 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9888AE.D67B4DCB@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:04:30 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CCC References: <3F971382.E74C5DD2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022211712.00b9d980@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022221159.00bb3d20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023091929.00b26938@pop.gwi.net> <3F982967.FD68360@maynor.net> <3F982B2A.80002@bc.edu> <3F982F00.3AC31374@maynor.net> <3F983153.4040904@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: > > Oh! Yes. Sorry about that. I forget that most people are able to get > their local TV channels without the aid of the dish. The reception in > our area is so bad that we subscribe to DirecTV for the locals in > addition to the regular packages. Botheration! We have no local channels (except the MSU channel, which I don't think I've ever watched). CBS is in Columbus. NBC is in Tupelo. Fox is in West Point. The PBS tower is near Ackerman. In the many years I didn't have cable or dish, I got shadows. It was because of Survivor that I decided to get cable, but then I decided to get DirecTV instead, not thinking about the fact that I wouldn't be able to get Survivor via the dish. But the magic antenna with a cable running from it to the dish enables me to get it beautifully now. I've thought about dropping DirecTV and using just that cute antenna since it really does a great job. I would get CBS, NBC, Fox, and PBS, which is more tv than I really need. But every once in a while there's something I want to watch on a cable/dish channel -- like MSU sports when we're doing well. I do feel guilty about paying something like $30 a month for DirecTV given how rarely I turn on the tv set. As I think I've said before, I wish that all tv were pay-per-view -- that I could watch these occasional things I want to watch without paying a monthly fee. I went through a lengthy rigamarole to get ABC via dish, involving letters from the ABC station in Birmingham saying that Starkville was not within their range, etc. etc. So I do get it via dish -- but never look at it. > I guess you will need > to investigate some rewiring at some point. It was when I got the dvd-player that I had to run the vcr through the DirecTV box -- the dvd-player I bought at the Wmart special around Thanksgiving last year and have used only once. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 21:20:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9O2Kt6q012785 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:20:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7734D1E60018; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:18:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 454E81E60014 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:18:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1AF75@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:11:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14753500 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:11:31 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9O2BV531546 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:11:31 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.179.94]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031024021126.XHXK1789.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:11:26 -0400 Message-ID: <3F988A4D.BBA886DD@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:11:25 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pup in the woods References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: > > There must be an awful lot of dog owners out there who go 'round sniffin' each other's butts then. Yes. I sniffed every butt at tonight's party. I could tell which of the guests were dog companions since they sniffed mine also. The cat people hissed or rubbed legs. I think I heard a whinny in the distance at some point. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 21:23:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9O2N76q012797 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:23:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 814061E60018; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:20:39 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51FA61E60014 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:20:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001BA329@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:13:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14753707 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:13:44 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9O2Di531952 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:13:44 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.179.94]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031024021338.XIWG1789.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:13:38 -0400 Message-ID: <3F988AD2.6F55A0C@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:13:38 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031023165731.00b3bfa0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > municipalities. A tribal court deals with certain crimes committed on the > reservation, and tribal elections and other internal tribal matters are > beyond the reach of any outside government. But otherwise all laws of the > state apply to the tribes and their members." I do plan to research this topic some more at some point when I'm feeling leisurely. I've always found it interesting. I'm not sure which, if any, state laws here would apply on the reservation. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 21:25:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9O2Pe6q012803 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:25:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1A9B61E60018; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:23:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAF691E60014 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:23:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001BA36E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:16:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14753813 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:16:17 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9O2GH532208 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:16:17 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.179.94]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031024021612.XJUT1789.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:16:12 -0400 Message-ID: <3F988B6B.B4DBE939@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:16:11 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CCC References: <3F982967.FD68360@maynor.net> <3F971382.E74C5DD2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022211712.00b9d980@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022221159.00bb3d20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023091929.00b26938@pop.gwi.net> <3F982967.FD68360@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023171101.00b9b320@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Imho, TIVO is very complicated to use and costs lots of money, including a > monthly subscription. I for sure don't want to pay a monthly subscription for anything else tv-related. I'm not even willing to pay extra to have the tv in this room connected, and I think that would be only $5 a month. I just don't watch enough tv to make it worth it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 21:28:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9O2SX6q012820 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:28:33 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F03B11E60018; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:26:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBCB11E60014 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:26:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1AFB9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:19:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14753969 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:19:10 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9O2J9532532 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:19:10 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.179.94]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031024021904.XKVZ1789.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:19:04 -0400 Message-ID: <3F988C18.7406ACD9@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:19:04 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CCC References: <3F982F00.3AC31374@maynor.net> <3F971382.E74C5DD2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022211712.00b9d980@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022221159.00bb3d20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023091929.00b26938@pop.gwi.net> <3F982967.FD68360@maynor.net> <3F982B2A.80002@bc.edu> <3F982F00.3AC31374@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023171520.034b0e80@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > > The reception in > >our area is so bad that we subscribe to DirecTV for the locals in > >addition to the regular packages. Botheration! --Rita L. > > You are lucky that you are allowed to do that. DirecTV will not give us > the local channels simply because we can get them, and have gotten them in > the recent past before DirecTV, through a local cable company. I think I read something recently saying that local channels can now be gotten via DirecTV. I haven't explored it since I'm very happy with the performance of the little antenna and since odd situations like tonight are rare. (And it may be that the built-in vcr worked fine. I'll report on that when I try the tape.) And I could've done a quick rewiring for the occasion. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 21:34:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9O2YB6q012860 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:34:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 59B371E60018; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:31:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BB431E60015 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:31:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001BA3CA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:24:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14754152 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:24:17 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9O2OG500458 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:24:16 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.179.94]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031024022411.XMXH1789.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:24:11 -0400 Message-ID: <3F988D4B.6F9E8413@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:24:11 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos References: <3F98255C.BF3B90ED@maynor.net> <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > On a personal level, I went to an Indian casino just the other day, > to entertain a guest who wanted to go. Interesting places. But would > I want my community to have one. No! I gather you mean a general casino, not an Indian casino -- since I don't think you live on a reservation. Why would you not want one? I know pretty much nothing about how they affect the communities they're in. There's one in Bay St. Louis, but I didn't notice anything that struck me as casino-related in my reconnoitering of BSL. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 21:37:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9O2bN6q012877 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:37:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 91E131E6001D; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:34:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 641251E60018 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:34:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1AFDA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:27:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14754305 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:28:00 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9O2S0500785 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:28:00 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.179.94]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031024022754.XOMC1789.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:27:54 -0400 Message-ID: <3F988E2A.F117570F@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:27:54 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Last night in London References: <3F982EB4.13766.101EE42@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tony Harminc wrote: > in the past, e.g. St. Paul's St. Paul's is one of my favorite places in London. I still remember, though, arranging to meet somebody beside Donne's shrouded statue only to discover that it had moved. > Did I mention my visit to the house I > spent my first two years in? No memories, sadly, and now it has an > unfortunate new association. No, you didn't. What is the unfortunate new association? Just that it doesn't look like pictures you have or what you thought it would look like, or is there something more? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 21:39:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9O2d16q012881 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:39:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2EA471E60018; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:36:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F12011E60015 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:36:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001BA3D7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:29:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14754345 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:29:38 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9O2Tc500904 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:29:38 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.179.94]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031024022933.XPFD1789.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:29:33 -0400 Message-ID: <3F988E8C.97D25820@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:29:32 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pup in the woods References: <622149203.1066943627@TWild.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Terry Wild wrote: > > > > > There must be an awful lot of dog owners out there who go 'round sniffin' > > each other's butts then. > > BrP > > Carefully disguised as picking up change from the floor. ROFL! And now I must turn off the computer, leaving unread mail. Am fading rapidly. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 21:47:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9O2lR6q012897 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:47:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 572BB1E6026C; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:44:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 248BC1E6026B for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:44:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1AFFC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:38:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14754535 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:38:04 -0400 Received: from web20501.mail.yahoo.com (web20501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.136]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9O2c3501446 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:38:03 -0400 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:38:02 PDT Message-ID: <20031024023802.94109.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:38:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Pup in the woods To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F988A4D.BBA886DD@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I sniffed every butt at tonight's party. I > could tell which of > the guests were dog companions since they sniffed > mine also. The cat > people hissed or rubbed legs. I think I heard a > whinny in the distance > at some point. Waaay distant. She's in Utah. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 21:54:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9O2s76q012903 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:54:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 036A71E60015; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:51:40 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C54941E60013 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:51:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1B00C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:44:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14754686 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:44:44 -0400 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9O2ii501915 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:44:44 -0400 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:44:43 PDT Message-ID: <20031024024443.20827.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:44:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F988AD2.6F55A0C@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU But > otherwise all laws of the > > state apply to the tribes and their members." > > I do plan to research this topic some more at some > point when I'm > feeling leisurely. I've always found it > interesting. I'm not sure > which, if any, state laws here would apply on the > reservation. We had a case many years ago in which an estranged wife (part Indian) fled with her child to Oklahoma. The wife and child took up residence on her old reservation, and there was not a cotton-pickin' thing we could do about it. As she was a "daughter of the tribe", she was under the protection of the tribe. The only reason we were involved was that she fled our jurisdiction without the permission of the Alabama court of record - a case of parental abduction, as the husband has visitation rights. We were keenly aware f the fact that the OK authorities were treading very carefully in their dealings with the tribe hierarchy. As far as I know, the wife and child never returned to AL. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 21:59:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9O2xU6q012934 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:59:30 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A5E751E60015; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:57:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 743D31E60013 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:57:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1B003@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:50:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14754870 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:50:07 -0400 Received: from web20503.mail.yahoo.com (web20503.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.138]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9O2o6502492 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:50:06 -0400 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:50:05 PDT Message-ID: <20031024025005.11165.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:50:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F988D4B.6F9E8413@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I gather you mean a general casino, not an Indian > casino -- since I > don't think you live on a reservation. Why would > you not want one? I > know pretty much nothing about how they affect the > communities they're > in. There's one in Bay St. Louis, but I didn't > notice anything that > struck me as casino-related in my reconnoitering of > BSL. Casinos are to organized crime what catnip would be to Sweetie. All of the ancillary services take root, and it seems to be just too tantalizing. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 22:17:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9O3Hm6q013050 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:17:48 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8A4701E60016; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:15:20 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C121E60015 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:15:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1B06E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 23:08:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14755872 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 23:08:25 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9O38O504616 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 23:08:25 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-175.inebraska.com [206.222.202.175]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9O38Lth016030 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:08:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <002001c399dc$040fb920$afcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023214922.00bb3f70@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: Re: Indians and Casinos Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:07:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > more and more states will be voting for casinos > > > because they need income desparately. Another reason > > >for my investment. > > > >Uhm. Sound investment, I should say. > > Frankly, I'm stunned that Doris is making money off the sins of other > people. What would Alyce say? > > > bonnie I haven't made the money yet. Anyway. I have an old friend who lives near this casino (in Iowa btw) and who is a very good girl who goes to church every Sunday and who does no wrong. The casino sends cards out in the community saying that if you come and buy $20 worth of coins they will give you $10 worth free. So she goes once a month, buys $20 worth of coins and receives her $10 free money. She plays the $10 in the machines, then cashes in her $20 worth of coins and leaves with her original $20 intact. I'm sure she was taught that gambling is a sin. So I guess she figures it isn't a sin if she gambles with the casino's money. In my opinion her deception and her lack of support for the Indians is more to be questioned. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 23 22:31:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9O3Vd6q013120 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:31:39 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0A0C91E6001D; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:29:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C73711E60018 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:29:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001BA586@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 23:21:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14758344 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 23:21:50 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9O3Lo506077 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 23:21:50 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-175.inebraska.com [206.222.202.175]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9O3Llth015466 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:21:48 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <003f01c399dd$e454f120$afcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3F98255C.BF3B90ED@maynor.net> <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <3F988D4B.6F9E8413@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Indians and Casinos Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:21:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" To: Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:24 PM Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos > Doris Markland wrote: > > > On a personal level, I went to an Indian casino just the other day, > > to entertain a guest who wanted to go. Interesting places. But would > > I want my community to have one. No! > > I gather you mean a general casino, not an Indian casino -- since I > don't think you live on a reservation. Why would you not want one? I > know pretty much nothing about how they affect the communities they're > in. There's one in Bay St. Louis, but I didn't notice anything that > struck me as casino-related in my reconnoitering of BSL. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) It was an Indian casino. We have three of them on the western edge of Iowa. You drive onto the reservation to get to their casino. Though I like to go there about once or maybe twice a year just for fun, you see a lot of people who are there regularly and not for fun but because of their addiction. The casino sucks individuals and even communities dry. You know that some states have a tax on the poor. It's called the lottery. Casinos are a bit like that. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 02:12:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9O7CN6q013929 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 02:12:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5E9B41E60029; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 02:09:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD001E60028 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 02:09:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1B7DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 3:02:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14771497 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 03:02:59 -0400 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9O72w528069 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 03:02:58 -0400 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:04:34 +0200 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id VHJCGTP9; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:04:30 +0200 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031024090218.01b97008@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:02:35 +0200 Subject: Re: Cats In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 08:38 23.10.2003 -0700 skrev John Williams: >----- Original Message ----- >From: Lynne Weber >> > Misquote from the Virginian. >> >> Bingo. As you know, no one ever said "pardner" in >> that context. > > The line in both the book and the movie is "When you call me that, >smile." But, hey, Ingred Bergman never said "Play it again, Sam." >either. And her name wasn't Ingred. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 02:21:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9O7Ls6q013984 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 02:21:54 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 03C021E6002A; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 02:19:25 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C51FB1E60029 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 02:19:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1B7D4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 3:12:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14771696 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 03:12:20 -0400 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9O7CK528579 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 03:12:20 -0400 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:13:56 +0200 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id VHJCGTR4; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:13:53 +0200 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031024091018.01c59c68@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:11:59 +0200 Subject: Re: Pup in the woods In-Reply-To: <3F982DE8.F797E905@maynor.net> References: <1db.130aa986.2cc97f4e@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 14:37 23.10.2003 -0500 skrev Natalie Maynor: >PS: And I'm surprised that dogs are called dogs in Dutch. I would have >guessed something cognate with hound. As it is in Norwegian, 'hund'. But there is also a derogatory word: 'bikkje' used for dogs of both sexes but I believe this is cognate with bitch. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 02:27:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9O7RH6q013992 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 02:27:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A50AE1E6002A; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 02:24:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72A821E60029 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 02:24:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001BAAA5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 3:17:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14771865 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 03:17:52 -0400 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9O7Hp529002 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 03:17:51 -0400 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:19:27 +0200 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id VHJCGTS7; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:19:21 +0200 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031024091537.01b86b50@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:17:27 +0200 Subject: Re: Last night in London In-Reply-To: <000401c399c0$25aa6380$afcadece@0018079268> References: <3F982EB4.13766.101EE42@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 18:48 23.10.2003 -0500 skrev Doris Markland: >I can't imagine anything more delightful than >drinking too much beer in London pubs. >Last time I did that I made some marvelous >friends from Wales. They were so kind. >Sent a tray of (horses ovaries) to our table >and then asked us to join them in singing. >The beer made us fast friends, and we >all exchanged addresses. > >I think perhaps we should drink beer with >the muslims of Iraq. Oh-oh. I guess that isn't an option. Sorry. But you might share a sheep's head or two with them. BTW one of our joys in Edinburgh last year was taking breaks in our sightseeing every so often for a pint of Caledonian. There are lots of pubs there. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 02:28:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9O7Sl6q013996 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 02:28:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 57B2F1E6002A; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 02:26:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A07F1E60029 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 02:26:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1B7FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 3:19:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14771907 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 03:19:22 -0400 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9O7JM529103 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 03:19:22 -0400 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:20:58 +0200 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id VHJCGTTG; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:20:54 +0200 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031024091851.01bda498@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:19:00 +0200 Subject: Re: Pup in the woods In-Reply-To: <3F988A4D.BBA886DD@maynor.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 21:11 23.10.2003 -0500 skrev Natalie Maynor: >Paul Barfoot wrote: >> >> There must be an awful lot of dog owners out there who go 'round sniffin' each other's butts then. > >Yes. I sniffed every butt at tonight's party. I could tell which of >the guests were dog companions since they sniffed mine also. The cat >people hissed or rubbed legs. I think I heard a whinny in the distance >at some point. No rabbits? Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 02:41:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9O7fI6q014030 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 02:41:18 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AA9EB1E6002A; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 02:38:48 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 791FE1E60029 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 02:38:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1B81D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 3:31:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14772116 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 03:31:53 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9O7Vq529728 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 03:31:52 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h9O7VoDU013885 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:31:50 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h9O7VnGI013883 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:31:49 +0200 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:31:49 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pup in the woods Message-ID: <20031024073149.GA13851@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <1db.130aa986.2cc97f4e@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1db.130aa986.2cc97f4e@aol.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof: = In a message dated 10/23/2003 12:26:50 PM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: = = >Drop the other shoe. What are they called in NL? = > = = They're called dogs of course. Male dogs or female dogs. = Jeez, I can't believe that one doesn't realize that. = Theo Jeez Theo, the words for male and female dogs are "reu" and "teef", and I get a good laugh out of people when I call myself the "wachtword teef", because I get to decide who can have the passwords. Do a google on lekkere teef, and the whole first page is porn. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 05:24:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OAOJ6q014512 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:24:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9C26C1E60037; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:21:48 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69EF81E60036 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:21:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1B94B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 6:14:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14775155 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:14:53 -0400 Received: from fe1.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OAEq506578 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:14:52 -0400 Received: from [136.167.17.26] (HELO bc.edu) by fe1.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.5) with ESMTP id 35487339 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:14:47 -0400 Message-ID: <3F98FB96.5080208@bc.edu> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:14:46 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CCC References: <3F971382.E74C5DD2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022211712.00b9d980@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022221159.00bb3d20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023091929.00b26938@pop.gwi.net> <3F982967.FD68360@maynor.net> <3F982B2A.80002@bc.edu> <3F982F00.3AC31374@maynor.net> <3F983153.4040904@bc.edu> <622069265.1066943547@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <622069265.1066943547@TWild.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Terry Wild wrote: > > Rita, > > Are you happy with this service? We've received a card and I need to > explore it further as our local reception is horrible. > > Terry Yes, we are very happy with it. Until we were able to get these channels through the dish, we were not able to watch any of the broadcast network programming. Lots of fuzz and static :-( Initially, all we got were the three major networks (VHF?). The UHF channels were added gradually and now we also get the southern New Hampshire feed for the networks. This is nice because we really live closer to the NH border than to Boston. Ray is obsessed with watching the weather reports and he gets a much more accurate prediction (not quite so far from wrong) from NH. I shouldn't pick on him. He works outdoors and weather is really a key thing for him. The point of all that is that, much like the basic service, these add-ons were provided as they became available with no increase in the fee. I really like that part :-) Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 05:39:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OAdE6q014547 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:39:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 059881E60258; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:36:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C04E51E6003A for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:36:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1B95B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 6:29:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14775337 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:29:42 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OATg507357 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:29:42 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.172]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031024102936.TBQI1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:29:36 -0400 Message-ID: <3F98FF0F.1B5A53DD@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:29:35 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos References: <20031024015849.85972.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Today, I found myself behind a truck with a rear > bumper sticker that read, "Mississippi State > University Grandpa" - and it was - Josh Blades' > granddad Richard. I think that in addition to being Student Association Pres, Josh was elected Mr. MSU. Richard has an outstanding grandbaby. > Please pursue the White Dog case. It's possible you > may find WD, Ms. Kay, and T.S. all assembled in some > bizarre locale. You're right. I shall remain diligent. I wonder how much investigative reporting the Reflector (student newspaper) does. Maybe they should get onto the case of the vanishing of The White Dog. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 05:40:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OAeM6q014551 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:40:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 12C891E60039; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:37:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D454A1E60036 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:37:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1B950@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 6:30:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14775356 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:30:56 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OAUu507445 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:30:56 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.172]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031024103051.TBUW1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:30:51 -0400 Message-ID: <3F98FF5A.70D099D@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:30:50 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pup in the woods References: <20031024020008.71693.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > ? Why did you suspect I'd have trouble with honden? > > It was my concern you might have trouble with katzen. Oh yes. I also have that concern. In about an hour I will go do the morning feeding and hope that the katzen are still ok. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 05:43:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OAh76q014554 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:43:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1A4311E60258; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:40:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB55E1E60039 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:40:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1B95F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 6:33:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14775394 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:33:41 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OAXf507574 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:33:41 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.172]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031024103336.TCFP1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:33:36 -0400 Message-ID: <3F98FFFF.F1AC5C9E@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:33:35 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos References: <20031024025005.11165.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Casinos are to organized crime what catnip would be to > Sweetie. All of the ancillary services take root, and > it seems to be just too tantalizing. What are some of the ancillary services? There is much I don't know about organized crime. Our incumbent Lt. Gov, the female hond I hope to see defeated, is said to have taken money from "the Mississippi Mafia," but I know little of what that really means. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 05:46:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OAkS6q014557 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:46:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 08D441E60039; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:43:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC1161E60037 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:43:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001BAC3D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 6:37:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14775438 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:37:02 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OAb2507753 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:37:02 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.172]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031024103657.TCUY1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:36:57 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9900C7.80695264@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:36:55 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos References: <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023214922.00bb3f70@pop.gwi.net> <002001c399dc$040fb920$afcadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > I'm sure she was taught that gambling is a > sin. What brand of religion did she grow up in? I grew up in a family that was always and went to church every Sunday, but nobody ever told me that gambling was a sin. In fact, every year when we'd go to the Coast for the cottonseed convention, my parents would give me a stack of nickels to use in the slot machines next door to the hotel. I was playing slot machines when I was barely tall enough to see more than the legs of the tables or whatever it was that the machines sat on. (My memory is that I always won tons of money, but I think this may be one of those cases of distorted memories.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 05:58:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OAwH6q014593 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:58:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 47F471E6003A; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:55:43 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15C7C1E60039 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:55:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001BAC4F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 6:48:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14775599 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:48:47 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OAml508837 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:48:47 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.172]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031024104842.BJNH1789.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:48:42 -0400 Message-ID: <3F990389.3F0CA276@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:48:41 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos References: <3F98255C.BF3B90ED@maynor.net> <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <3F988D4B.6F9E8413@maynor.net> <003f01c399dd$e454f120$afcadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > > On a personal level, I went to an Indian casino just the other day, > > > to entertain a guest who wanted to go. Interesting places. But > would > > > I want my community to have one. No! > > > > I gather you mean a general casino, not an Indian casino -- since I > > don't think you live on a reservation. Why would you not want one? I > > know pretty much nothing about how they affect the communities they're > > in. There's one in Bay St. Louis, but I didn't notice anything that > > struck me as casino-related in my reconnoitering of BSL. > > It was an Indian casino. I understood that it was an Indian casino you had recently visited. When I said "not an Indian casino," I was referring to the casino you wouldn't want in your community. > Though I like to go there about once or maybe twice a year just > for fun, you see a lot of people who are there regularly and not for > fun but because of their addiction. The casino sucks individuals and > even communities dry. I've been once to the Choctaw casino near here -- to take a visitor there -- the visitor was love,judith, now that I think about it. My impression was like yours -- that many of the people there seemed not to be having fun. We didn't stay all that long since it was kind of depressing and boring. I remember that we tried to find the restaurant that I had heard was excellent, but we couldn't find it. Re sucking communities dry, I haven't noticed that re the area near the Choctaw reservation here. The casino profits don't affect the community outside the reservation directly, but there has been growth that does affect it -- new motels, restaurants, service stations, etc. And they hire people from off the reservation at high-paying jobs. I remember that MSU lost some employees to the casino when it first opened because they could make a good bit more money being things like "dealers" (cards, not drugs) than they were making as secretaries or whatever here. > You know that some states have a tax on the poor. It's > called the lottery. Casinos are a bit like that. I also noticed that many of the people in that casino looked poor. I find it very, very hard to comprehend that kind of addiction -- how somebody with limited money would choose to spend it on gambling. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 06:01:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OB1v6q014598 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:01:57 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9A3841E6003A; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:59:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 698CC1E60039 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:59:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001BAC7C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 6:52:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14775698 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:52:30 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OAqU509102 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:52:30 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.172]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031024105225.BKEU1789.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:52:25 -0400 Message-ID: <3F990468.3DF43E3E@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:52:24 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pup in the woods References: <1db.130aa986.2cc97f4e@aol.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024091018.01c59c68@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen Ore wrote: > As it is in Norwegian, 'hund'. But there is also a derogatory word: 'bikkje' used for dogs of both sexes but I believe this is cognate with bitch. Almost certainly (cognate with bitch). It's interesting that it's derogatory. If I were going to be teaching HOTEL next semester (but I'm not), I would encourage somebody to do a paper on the history of bitch. Re dog terms, I find the reversal of hound and dog in English interesting -- that dog (docga) in OE apparently meant a hunting dog, while hund was the broader term. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 06:02:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OB2w6q014601 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:02:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 856521E6003B; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:00:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 577B71E6003A for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:00:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001BAC7E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 6:53:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14775717 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:53:31 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OArV509159 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:53:31 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.172]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031024105326.BKKA1789.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:53:26 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9904A5.E0AEBD0A@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:53:25 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pup in the woods References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031024091851.01bda498@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen Ore wrote: > >Yes. I sniffed every butt at tonight's party. I could tell which of > >the guests were dog companions since they sniffed mine also. The cat > >people hissed or rubbed legs. I think I heard a whinny in the distance > >at some point. > > No rabbits? I'm not positive. I thought I saw a bit of hopping over in a corner, but I didn't look closely enough. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 06:09:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OB9K6q014616 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:09:20 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BAC091E6003B; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:06:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8983B1E6003A for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:06:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1B99C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 6:59:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14775965 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:59:54 -0400 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OAxr509620 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:59:53 -0400 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:01:29 +0200 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id VHJCGV9F; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:01:26 +0200 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031024125738.01b04650@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:59:31 +0200 Subject: Re: Pup in the woods In-Reply-To: <3F990468.3DF43E3E@maynor.net> References: <1db.130aa986.2cc97f4e@aol.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024091018.01c59c68@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 05:52 24.10.2003 -0500 skrev Natalie Maynor: >Re dog terms, I find the reversal of hound and dog in English >interesting -- that dog (docga) in OE apparently meant a hunting dog, >while hund was the broader term. And indeed Norwegian has "dogge": dog of a type with a rectangular head and a broad muzzle" (but this *may* come from German/Danish) Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 06:11:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OBBn6q014647 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:11:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 834361E60039; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:09:15 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50B881E6003B for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:09:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001BACA2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 7:02:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14776017 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:02:19 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OB2J529170 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:02:19 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.172]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031024110214.BMAU1789.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:02:14 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9906B5.AC786902@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:02:13 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Diapered Horses Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Speaking of whinnying, this is today's question in the Clarion-Ledger: ************* Horse lovers are threatening to boycott Lucedale's annual Christmas parade because the city has passed an ordinance requiring all livestock to wear diapers when in town. The ordinance was a response to the mess horses left in the last parade there. Would you diaper a horse in order to ride it in a parade? ************* from: http://www.clarionledger.com/ -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 06:12:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OBCl6q014651 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:12:50 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 821B81E60039; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:10:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 538AD1E6003A for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:10:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1B989@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 7:03:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14776041 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:03:18 -0400 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OB3H529214 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:03:17 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9OB3GrI023156 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 04:03:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F9906B0.7090700@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:02:08 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos References: <3F98255C.BF3B90ED@maynor.net> <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <3F988D4B.6F9E8413@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Doris Markland wrote: > > >>On a personal level, I went to an Indian casino just the other day, >>to entertain a guest who wanted to go. Interesting places. But would >>I want my community to have one. No! >> > > I gather you mean a general casino, not an Indian casino -- since I > don't think you live on a reservation. Why would you not want one? I > know pretty much nothing about how they affect the communities they're > in. There's one in Bay St. Louis, but I didn't notice anything that > struck me as casino-related in my reconnoitering of BSL. I have five casinos within a 20-mile radius. There are some problems associated with them (people dropping their kids at the casino daycare or leaving them in their cars out in the parking lot for days at a time), but otherwise, they don't seem to be too terrible. Don't expect some huge cash bonanza -- ours supposedly feed education, but of course they don't. They're not Indian casinos. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 06:14:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OBE16q014665 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:14:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D59881E6003B; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:11:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A801E1E6003A for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:11:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1B9A5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 7:04:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14776061 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:04:35 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OB4Z529281 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:04:35 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.172]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031024110430.BMMO1789.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:04:30 -0400 Message-ID: <3F99073C.AF1AD8BD@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:04:28 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: More on the Diapering Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I sent that survey question before I saw the story itself (not that it really adds much to what was said in the question): http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0310/24/m08.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 06:14:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OBEL6q014668 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:14:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 490C51E6003C; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:11:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BE8A1E60039 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:11:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001BAC85@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 7:04:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14776126 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:04:54 -0400 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OB4s529413 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:04:54 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9OB4rrI023531 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 04:04:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F990715.90009@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:03:49 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Diapered Horses References: <3F9906B5.AC786902@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm not sure a horse would tolerate a diaper well enough to be able to be ridden. Natalie Maynor wrote: > Speaking of whinnying, this is today's question in the Clarion-Ledger: > > ************* > Horse lovers are threatening to boycott Lucedale's annual Christmas > parade because the city has passed an ordinance requiring all livestock > to wear diapers when in town. The ordinance was a response to the mess > horses left in the last parade there. Would you diaper a horse in order > to ride it in a parade? > ************* > from: http://www.clarionledger.com/ > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 06:46:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OBkv6q014703 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:46:57 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E6F791E60041; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:44:25 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B52381E6003A for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:44:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1B9F4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 7:37:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14777130 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:37:30 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f56.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OBbU500885 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:37:30 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 04:37:24 -0700 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:37:24 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: zipping up the dogs Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:37:24 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Oct 2003 11:37:24.0542 (UTC) FILETIME=[31BBA5E0:01C39A23] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/24/nyregion/24DOGS.html?hp _________________________________________________________________ Never get a busy signal because you are always connected with high-speed Internet access. Click here to comparison-shop providers. https://broadband.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 06:53:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OBrj6q014718 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:53:45 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0EE791E60044; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:51:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96BEC1E60041 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:51:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1BA29@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 7:44:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14777552 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:44:18 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OBiI502581 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:44:18 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-39.gwi.net [216.195.152.39]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9OBiGAr057897 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:44:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031024074207.00b27f20@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:42:52 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos In-Reply-To: <003f01c399dd$e454f120$afcadece@0018079268> References: <3F98255C.BF3B90ED@maynor.net> <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <3F988D4B.6F9E8413@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >The casino sucks individuals and even communities dry. > >You know that some states have a tax on the poor. It's >called the lottery. Casinos are a bit like that. > - D. M. And yet you find that a good investment. Shame on you. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 07:00:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OC066q014753 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:00:10 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 739501E60044; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:57:25 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4582B1E60040 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:57:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1BA37@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 7:50:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14777715 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:50:22 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OBoL503097 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:50:21 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-39.gwi.net [216.195.152.39]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9OBoFGn017198 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:50:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031024074700.00b44790@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:50:26 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos In-Reply-To: <3F98FFFF.F1AC5C9E@maynor.net> References: <20031024025005.11165.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Casinos are to organized crime what catnip would be to > > Sweetie. All of the ancillary services take root, and > > it seems to be just too tantalizing. > >What are some of the ancillary services? There is much I don't know >about organized crime. Our incumbent Lt. Gov, the female hond I hope to >see defeated, is said to have taken money from "the Mississippi Mafia," >but I know little of what that really means. -- Natalie It means graft. Ancillary services are prostitution, pawn shops, loan sharking, theft, and, in some cases, embezzlement. Near the Connecticut casino, evidently, they've had problems with town and county employees embezzling money to pay their gambling debts. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 07:02:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OC1v6q014757 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:02:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E87121E60041; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:59:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B71911E60040 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:59:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1BA3B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 7:52:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14777780 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:52:27 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OBqR503291 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:52:27 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-39.gwi.net [216.195.152.39]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9OBqMGn017389 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:52:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031024075155.00b2b230@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:52:33 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos In-Reply-To: <3F990389.3F0CA276@maynor.net> References: <3F98255C.BF3B90ED@maynor.net> <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <3F988D4B.6F9E8413@maynor.net> <003f01c399dd$e454f120$afcadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I also noticed that many of the people in that casino looked poor. I >find it very, very hard to comprehend that kind of addiction -- how >somebody with limited money would choose to spend it on gambling. > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Do you also find it hard to understand how people with very little money would spend it on recreational drugs? bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 08:01:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OD1n6q014883 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:01:49 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 76CA71E60045; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:59:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 452001E60040 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:59:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1BB7B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 8:52:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14781120 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:52:21 -0400 Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OCqL513273 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:52:21 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HN900IONIF1ND@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:52:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.80] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:48:33 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:48:33 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <125fff12a8da.12a8da125fff@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I gather you mean a general casino, not an Indian > > casino -- since I > > don't think you live on a reservation. Why would > > you not want one? I > > know pretty much nothing about how they affect the > > communities they're > > in. There's one in Bay St. Louis, but I didn't > > notice anything that > > struck me as casino-related in my reconnoitering of > > BSL. My sister lives about 15 minutes from Mohegan Sun in CT. We go there every time we visit -- it's their closest place to go out. I would think if anything it's stimulated the economy in the area by making it more of a . Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 08:08:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OD886q014904 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:08:08 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 26FD11E60049; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:05:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E98E91E60048 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:05:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1BBB7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 8:58:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14780944 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:58:41 -0400 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OCmf512828 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:48:41 -0400 Received: from ra.msstate.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.12.10/8.12.8/ra_1.2) with ESMTP; id h9OCmeaK013535 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:48:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from maynor@localhost) by ra.msstate.edu (8.12.10/8.12.7/Submit) id h9OCmeFx013534 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:48:40 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:48:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Natalie Maynor Message-Id: <200310241248.h9OCmeFx013534@ra.msstate.edu> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Katzen Report Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Es geht den Katzen gut. --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 08:26:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ODQk6q014933 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:26:46 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5B7E71E6004D; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:24:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 278121E6004B for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:24:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1BC64@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 9:17:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14783334 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:17:18 -0400 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9ODHH517844 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:17:17 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:17:16 PDT Message-ID: <20031024131716.15895.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:17:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Cats To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031024090218.01b97008@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > And her name wasn't Ingred. 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Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 08:28:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com ([192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ODSr6q014936 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:28:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9418D1E6004B; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:26:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60E001E6004A for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:26:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1BC89@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 9:19:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14783460 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:19:25 -0400 Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com (web20502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9ODJP518071 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:19:25 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:19:24 PDT Message-ID: <20031024131924.80237.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:19:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Pup in the woods To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031024091851.01bda498@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > No rabbits? 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Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 08:53:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ODrt6q014971 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:53:55 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1BD65@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 9:44:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14785219 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:44:24 -0400 Received: from web20501.mail.yahoo.com (web20501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.136]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9ODiO522529 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:44:24 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:44:23 PDT Message-ID: <20031024134423.45071.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:44:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Katzen Report To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200310241248.h9OCmeFx013534@ra.msstate.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Es geht den Katzen gut. > --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) Cat gut. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 10:18:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OFIS6q015338 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 10:18:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 24E561E60052; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 10:15:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B55391E60053 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 10:15:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1BE77@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 10:06:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14787527 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 10:06:15 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OE6F527588 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 10:06:15 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-204.gwi.net [216.195.157.204]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9OE6DAr084236 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 10:06:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031024100043.00b467d0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 10:06:23 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos In-Reply-To: <125fff12a8da.12a8da125fff@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >My sister lives about 15 minutes from Mohegan Sun in CT. We go there every >time we visit -- it's their closest place to go out. I would think if >anything it's stimulated the economy in the area by making it more of a >. >Marie Or, perhaps, the two resort casinos have become the economy of the area. There has been much discussion in Maine about the Connecticut casinos because that is the model on which the proposed Maine casino is being planned. The folk in Connecticut are mixed in their recommendations to Maine. Of course, there is a conflict of interest. There are no casinos in Massachusetts. Maine's casino would largely draw from Mass, taking customers away from Connecticut. But some in Connecticut are explaining the headaches that their casinos have brought. One of the many costs that I would never have thought of is that of plowing snow. Before the casino, the county was able to rest their snow plows for several hours in the middle of the night. Now with the casino being open 24/7 there is no rest. A commissioner of the county which houses the casino also complains that what money that goes to the state from casino profit gets divided equally among the counties whereas his county bears the brunt of the expense. He's had to add members to the police force and to the road maintenance crews. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 10:18:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OFIS6q015339 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 10:18:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2B6741E60053; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 10:15:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B740E1E60054 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 10:15:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1C0DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:03:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14793435 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:03:45 -0400 Received: from leopard.mail.utk.edu (leopard.mail.utk.edu [160.36.0.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OF3i509074 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:03:44 -0400 Received: from webmail.utk.edu (camel.usg.utk.edu [160.36.178.34]) by leopard.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9OFHPcn029267 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:17:25 -0400 X-WebMail-UserID: dumasb Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:03:44 -0400 From: "Bethany K. Dumas" To: English Language Discussion Group X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00002252 Subject: Salt Lake City/Hotel Monaco Message-ID: <3FAF9ECA@webmail.utk.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Infinite Mobile Delivery (Hydra) SMTP v3.62.01 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The city and the hotel (Bambera Restaurant also) are awesome - Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 10:18:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OFIS6q015337 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 10:18:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1B1D61E60055; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 10:15:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE9EA1E60052 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 10:15:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1BDAD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 9:50:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14785825 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:50:20 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ODoI523695 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:50:18 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-204.gwi.net [216.195.157.204]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9ODoFAt081433; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:50:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031024092854.00b32ec8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:41:50 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos In-Reply-To: <002001c399dc$040fb920$afcadece@0018079268> References: <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023214922.00bb3f70@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:07 PM 10/23/2003 -0500, Doris Markland wrote: >... The casino sends >cards out in the community saying that if you >come and buy $20 worth of coins they will >give you $10 worth free. So she goes once >a month, buys $20 worth of coins and >receives her $10 free money. She plays the >$10 in the machines, then cashes in her $20 >worth of coins and leaves with her original >$20 intact. A couple I knew in Graduate school now live in Vicksburg MS. The casino there does somewhat the same thing, as well as giving the locals discounts on food. When we stopped to see them on the way to the rowing marathon, we had breakfast at the casino (they had a lot of discount cards saved up) and could have gambled on casino money as well. As to your Iowa friend's attitude---money does interesting things to moral and religious notions. Years ago, when we lived in Alabama, the county we lived in was dry. During one referendum campaign to go wet, a local minister who was leading the dry cause was asked if it didn't bother him that although his county was dry, it was benefiting from state tax money garnered from the sale of liquor in wet counties. He saw nothing wrong or illogical in that at all. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 11:03:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OG3P6q016102 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:03:26 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1BEA51E60050; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:00:53 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1BC01E60043 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:00:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1C365@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:53:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14799559 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:53:57 -0400 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OFrv523043 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:53:57 -0400 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9OFrssV3334336 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 10:53:55 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 10:53:54 -0500 (CDT) From: nam gal sips clark X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos In-Reply-To: <002001c399dc$040fb920$afcadece@0018079268> Message-ID: References: <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023214922.00bb3f70@pop.gwi.net> <002001c399dc$040fb920$afcadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.0.4.77969 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Doris Markland wrote: > she gambles with the casino's money. Don't get me started on this bizarre concept of "the casino's money". > In my opinion her deception and her lack How is this deceptive? > of support for the Indians is more > to be questioned. Why is she under an obligation to support the Indians? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 11:11:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OGBi6q016155 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:11:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C49B01E60050; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:09:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 901DA1E60043 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:09:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1C3E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:02:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14800467 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:02:15 -0400 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OG2F525351 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:02:15 -0400 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9OG2DsV8642640 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:02:14 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:02:13 -0500 (CDT) From: nam gal sips clark X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023214922.00bb3f70@pop.gwi.net> <002001c399dc$040fb920$afcadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Speaking of Indians, I just finished "In the Hands of the Great Spirit", by Jake Page. He starts 20000 years ago, and brings you all the way to today's casinos and golf resorts. Good book. Learned a lot. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 11:19:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OGJ86q016228 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:19:08 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 343151E60050; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:16:35 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 022C41E60043 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:16:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1C43C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:09:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14801522 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:09:39 -0400 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OG9d527529 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:09:39 -0400 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9OG9ZsV8241326 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:09:37 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:09:35 -0500 (CDT) From: nam gal sips clark X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos In-Reply-To: <3F988D4B.6F9E8413@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3F98255C.BF3B90ED@maynor.net> <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <3F988D4B.6F9E8413@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >There's one in Bay St. Louis, but I didn't notice anything that >struck me as casino-related in my reconnoitering of BSL. Certainly you noticed the difference between today's Rt. 90 and the way it was in your youth? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 11:25:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OGPb6q016312 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:25:37 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 832AC1E60068; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:23:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53CD61E60056 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:23:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001BB5D8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:16:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14802399 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:16:08 -0400 Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OGG8529492 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:16:08 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HN900LQ8RUPBT@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:16:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.73] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:12:20 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:12:20 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <12c5e012c075.12c07512c5e0@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Or, perhaps, the two resort casinos have become the economy of the > area. Actually, as I heard it, the area was pretty much dead -- the submarine-building industry having left a couple of years before. And that the casinos are indirectly responsible for Pfizer (where my sister works) coming to Groton. So, yes, I guess they have. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 11:26:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OGQJ6q016318 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:26:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7C8DA1E60068; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:23:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DAD91E6005B for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:23:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1C4A5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:16:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14802501 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:16:50 -0400 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OGGo529761 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:16:50 -0400 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9OGGmsV8396974 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:16:49 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:16:48 -0500 (CDT) From: nam gal sips clark X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos In-Reply-To: <125fff12a8da.12a8da125fff@optonline.net> Message-ID: References: <125fff12a8da.12a8da125fff@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie: >My sister lives about 15 minutes from Mohegan Sun in CT. >We go there every time we visit -- it's their closest place >to go out. I would think if anything it's stimulated the >economy in the area by making it more of a . Page's book specifically talks about the Sun, and how it's an aberration in several ways from the Indian casino. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 11:29:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OGTf6q016354 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:29:41 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 52CB61E60068; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:27:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A2701E6005B for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:27:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1C4DF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:20:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14802873 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:20:12 -0400 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9OGKC530587 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:20:12 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:20:10 PDT Message-ID: <20031024162011.36873.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:20:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > He starts 20000 years ago, and brings > you all the way to today's casinos and > golf resorts. Additional evidence that there was a nineteenth hole in prehistory. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 11:31:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OGVl6q016377 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:31:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2C6AE1E600D2; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:29:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F08A31E60092 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:29:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1C4F4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:22:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14801780 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:22:18 -0400 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OGCI528146 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:12:18 -0400 Received: from ra.msstate.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.12.10/8.12.8/ra_1.2) with ESMTP; id h9OGCGaK024679 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:12:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from maynor@localhost) by ra.msstate.edu (8.12.10/8.12.7/Submit) id h9OGCG2u024678 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:12:16 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:12:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Natalie Maynor Message-Id: <200310241612.h9OGCG2u024678@ra.msstate.edu> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: The White Dog is Safe! Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From a former student of mine who is now an Instructor of Spanish: > I asked my class if they knew anything about the white dog. They told me that > it was captured by the vet center (they put some food in a cage) and that > there is a list of people who want to adopt it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 11:35:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OGZx6q016475 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:35:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1A9C91E60050; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:33:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE81E1E60059 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:33:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1C52C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:26:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14803626 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:26:30 -0400 Received: from web20512.mail.yahoo.com (web20512.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9OGQU532700 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:26:30 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20512.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:26:27 PDT Message-ID: <20031024162627.63121.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:26:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: The White Dog is Safe! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200310241612.h9OGCG2u024678@ra.msstate.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I asked my class if they knew anything about the > white dog. They told me that > > it was captured by the vet center (they put some > food in a cage) and that > > there is a list of people who want to adopt it. YaY for the White Dog! He has tricked them into finding him a luxurious and undemanding home. Now you need a mystery deserving of your talents. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 11:39:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OGdW6q016484 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:39:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 433561E60056; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:36:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10EF61E60043 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:36:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1C553@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:30:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14804029 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:30:03 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OGU3501349 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:30:03 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-175.inebraska.com [206.222.202.175]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9OGTxth014291 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:30:01 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <003f01c39a4b$feed5fe0$afcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023214922.00bb3f70@pop.gwi.net> <002001c399dc$040fb920$afcadece@0018079268> <3F9900C7.80695264@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Indians and Casinos Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:29:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Doris Markland wrote: > > > I'm sure she was taught that gambling is a > > sin. > > What brand of religion did she grow up in? I grew up in a family that > was always and went to church every Sunday, but nobody ever told > me that gambling was a sin. In fact, every year when we'd go to the > Coast for the cottonseed convention, my parents would give me a stack of > nickels to use in the slot machines next door to the hotel. I was > playing slot machines when I was barely tall enough to see more than the > legs of the tables or whatever it was that the machines sat on. (My > memory is that I always won tons of money, but I think this may be one > of those cases of distorted memories.) > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I don't know, probably Methodist. But what tickles me is that she feels so guilty going into the casino, yet she doesn't feel guilty about playing her free ten dollars because that's somebody else's money. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 12:14:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OHEZ6q017084 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:14:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 974641E6005D; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:12:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66DF81E6005B for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:12:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1C6B8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:05:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14807756 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:05:06 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OH56509893 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:05:06 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-175.inebraska.com [206.222.202.175]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9OH53th029304 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:05:05 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <007e01c39a50$e4d48520$afcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023214922.00bb3f70@pop.gwi.net> <002001c399dc$040fb920$afcadece@0018079268> Subject: Re: Re: Indians and Casinos Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:04:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Doris Markland wrote: > > she gambles with the casino's money. > > Don't get me started on this bizarre > concept of "the casino's money". I wonder where it would go if you got started. Hmm. > > > In my opinion her deception and her lack > > How is this deceptive? Obviously she accepted their offer to receive the $10 and in turn to invest $20 in play in their casino. She played none of the $20 but cashed it right back in. I'm sure lots of people do this. If I did I wouldn't feel right about it. But then I enjoy the play so I wouldn't do it anyway. > > > of support for the Indians is more > > to be questioned. > > Why is she under an obligation to > support the Indians? The situation would be the same if the casino were owned by non-Indians and were merely a local business who sent out an incentive for her to come in. I didn't mean support as in welfare, but support as in backing. I think the small communities in Iowa were glad to see their nearby Indian reservations in business, and one of them, in fact, has done so well its manager has received national attention. Before casinos, so many of the Indians were unemployed and uninspired and alcohol was their pastime. Now they are up and off to work, have money to improve their communities and schools, etc. So there are many good things to be said. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 12:14:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OHEe6q017087 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:14:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 18BC31E6005D; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:12:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE1AB1E6005B for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:12:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1C6BA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:05:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14807775 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:05:11 -0400 Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OH5B509919 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:05:11 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HN900ETWU4R09@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:05:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.73] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:01:30 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:01:30 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <12f29d12ae89.12ae8912f29d@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Page's book specifically talks about the Sun, > and how it's an aberration in several ways > from the Indian casino. It's actually a very nice place, although kind of mall-like. Nicely decorated with lots of beautiful beadwork. And several decent restaurants. Actually a sister restaurant to Virgil's is there too. In what ways did Page refer to it as an aberration? BTW, I'm $180.00 up on them. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 12:27:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OHR86q017203 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:27:08 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 290E91E60068; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:24:35 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEB7E1E60061 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:24:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1C732@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:17:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14808931 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:17:39 -0400 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OHHd513006 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:17:39 -0400 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9OHHYsV1261604 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:17:34 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:17:34 -0500 (CDT) From: nam gal sips clark X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos In-Reply-To: <12f29d12ae89.12ae8912f29d@optonline.net> Message-ID: References: <12f29d12ae89.12ae8912f29d@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie: > In what ways did Page refer to it as an aberration? That, for the most part, it has lived up to all the promises made about it. As a counterexample, here in NOLA, the "COMMITTEE FOR 30000 JOBS" ended up about 27000 short. Of course it's not an Indian casino, but it pisses me off, so I slag it every chance I get, relevant or not. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 12:31:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OHV46q017245 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:31:05 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B48271E6005B; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:28:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 867751E60059 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:28:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1C760@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:21:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14809251 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:21:29 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f87.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.87]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OHLT513621 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:21:29 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 10:21:23 -0700 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:21:23 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:21:23 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Oct 2003 17:21:23.0715 (UTC) FILETIME=[3FA38530:01C39A53] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: bonniev >>The casino sucks individuals and even communities dry. >> >>You know that some states have a tax on the poor. It's >>called the lottery. Casinos are a bit like that. D. M. > >And yet you find that a good investment. Shame on you. Pish. It seems to me that if one has an opportunity to invest in a sure thing, in this case mass stupidity, one is even stupider not to do so. That said, I like casinos, at least the ones that offer poker. Unfortunately, more and more casinos are closing their poker rooms, because poker doesn't suck up the money as quickly as slots. In poker, of course, players are playing against one another rather than the house, and rake or time charges are essentially user fees charged for the service of furnishing dealers, tables, chips, etc. In general, those fees strike me as reasonable, though there are few places that have rapacious rakes which I decline to pay. _________________________________________________________________ Cheer a special someone with a fun Halloween eCard from American Greetings! Go to http://www.msn.americangreetings.com/index_msn.pd?source=msne134 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 12:33:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OHX56q017252 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:33:05 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B5DF31E60061; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:30:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8300C1E6005B for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:30:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1C76D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:23:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14809483 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:23:36 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OHNZ513925 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:23:35 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-175.inebraska.com [206.222.202.175]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9OHNXth009426 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:23:34 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000801c39a53$79d0dc80$afcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3F98255C.BF3B90ED@maynor.net> <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <3F988D4B.6F9E8413@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024074207.00b27f20@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: Re: Indians and Casinos Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:23:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >The casino sucks individuals and even communities dry. > > > >You know that some states have a tax on the poor. It's > >called the lottery. Casinos are a bit like that. > > - D. M. > > And yet you find that a good investment. Shame on you. > > > bonnie What I do or don't do in this instance won't change a thing. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 12:36:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OHax6q017325 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:36:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6080B1E60060; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:34:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F9B01E6005B for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:34:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1C77B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:27:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14809746 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:27:30 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f61.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OHRT514567 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:27:29 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 10:27:24 -0700 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:27:23 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:27:23 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Oct 2003 17:27:24.0183 (UTC) FILETIME=[167E9270:01C39A54] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: "clyde w. voigtlander" . The >casino >there does somewhat the same thing, as well as giving the locals discounts >on food. When we stopped to see them on the way to the rowing My guess would be that they're not giving "locals," but rather "players," food. This is the norm. In Tunica, where I sometimes play poker, anyone who plays poker for more than 4 (or maybe it's 6--it doesn't matter to me, because I typically play for longer periods), can get a hotel room for about 20 bucks a night, plus free food. Generally, the poker comps aren't as generous as those for other games, for reasons I mentioned in a previous post. Still, in Tunica there are poker players who live in the hotels for months on end, which seems odd until you consider that any reasonably good poker player should be able to earn more than 140 bucks a week, and everything above that is net, cash income. _________________________________________________________________ Concerned that messages may bounce because your Hotmail account has exceeded its 2MB storage limit? Get Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 12:43:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OHhl6q017412 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:43:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DDD6F1E60043; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:41:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEBDA1E6003D for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:41:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1C7CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:34:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14810391 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:34:18 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f38.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OHYH516207 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:34:18 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 10:34:12 -0700 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:34:12 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:34:12 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Oct 2003 17:34:12.0264 (UTC) FILETIME=[09BACA80:01C39A55] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Analyzing the economic impact of a casino is much like analyzing the economic impact of professional sports. There are plenty of ways to distort the numbers. In a well developed economic area, a casino will naturally drain dollars away from other entertainment options (including, if relevant, other gambling activities, such as horse racing). This is the case in cities like Detroit, where the casinos are in the central business area. Another model is to create regional gambling centers (e.g., Tunica) that draw from a great distance. In the poker room at Binion's, for instance, you'll play with people from throughouth the southeast and midwest, an area roughly bounded by Florida and North Carolina on the east, Ohio to Iowa on the north, and Kansas to Texas on the West. Here, money is flowing from a wide range of areas into an undeveloped area. Most of the profits are being shipped off to multinationals, since most of the casinos are owned by large corporations. But there's an obvious impact on wages and employment in the immediate area. My guess would be that Tunica has some adverse effect on Memphis, in that it drains tourism and entertainment dollars from that city, which is a short drive away. >From: bonniev > _________________________________________________________________ Send instant messages to anyone on your contact list with MSN Messenger 6.0. Try it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 12:45:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OHjU6q017452 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:45:30 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E62C31E60043; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:42:56 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B76591E6003D for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:42:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1C7DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:36:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14810600 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:36:01 -0400 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OHa1516717 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:36:01 -0400 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9OHZxsV3334354 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:35:59 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:35:59 -0500 (CDT) From: nam gal sips clark X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos In-Reply-To: <12f29d12ae89.12ae8912f29d@optonline.net> Message-ID: References: <12f29d12ae89.12ae8912f29d@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: > BTW, I'm $180.00 up on them. Have you no conscience, you white devil? You have an _obligation_ to SUPPORT, but no, it's just take, take, take with you. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 12:47:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OHlS6q017464 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:47:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 47E981E6005B; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:44:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 192911E60059 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:44:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1C7F8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:37:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14810818 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:37:57 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f89.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.89]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OHbv517205 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:37:57 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 10:37:52 -0700 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:37:51 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:37:51 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Oct 2003 17:37:52.0011 (UTC) FILETIME=[8CB585B0:01C39A55] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU So unless doing the right thing will have some tangible impact, it isn't worth doing, eh? Where's the categorical imperative when you need it? >From: Doris Markland >What I do or don't do in this instance >won't change a thing. _________________________________________________________________ Concerned that messages may bounce because your Hotmail account has exceeded its 2MB storage limit? Get Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 12:59:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OHxJ6q017617 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:59:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E76E41E60062; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:56:45 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B398B1E6005B for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:56:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1C862@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:49:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14811928 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:49:50 -0400 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OHno520011 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:49:50 -0400 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9OHnlsV6709462 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:49:48 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:49:47 -0500 (CDT) From: nam gal sips clark X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, Marty Rosen wrote: >Here, money is flowing from a wide range >of areas into an undeveloped area. The paper here recently did a few pieces on the casino biz, comparing Mississippi's successful go at it (in particular, the "Tunica Miracle"[1]) with Louisiana's comically inept and typically corrupt debacle. >My guess would be that Tunica has some adverse effect on >Memphis, in that it drains tourism and entertainment dollars >from that city, which is a short drive away. Your guess is correct (or, at least, that idea was printed almost word-for-word in the article). [1] Tunica, formerly known as "America's Ethiopia". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 13:02:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OI2J6q017656 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:02:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D23671E6005F; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:59:45 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1B261E6005B for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:59:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1C893@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:52:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14811390 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:52:50 -0400 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OHgn518665 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:42:49 -0400 Received: from ra.msstate.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.12.10/8.12.8/ra_1.2) with ESMTP; id h9OHgkaK026805 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:42:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from maynor@localhost) by ra.msstate.edu (8.12.10/8.12.7/Submit) id h9OHgkQJ026802 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:42:46 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:42:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Natalie Maynor Message-Id: <200310241742.h9OHgkQJ026802@ra.msstate.edu> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Further Word Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From the OCHS Pres: > I spoke to Glenn today and he said the dog is at the shelter and will > need socialization before adoption. "Take 30" is taping the dog which > will be aired next Wednesday. I will be putting out an email to the > membership updating them. (I have no idea what "Take 30" is.) --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 13:18:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OIIR6q017944 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:18:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BD2191E60062; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:15:53 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BC561E6005F for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:15:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001BB9BA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 14:08:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14813662 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 14:08:57 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OI8v524285 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 14:08:57 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-204.gwi.net [216.195.157.204]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9OI8tAr025113 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 14:08:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031024140800.00b93278@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 14:09:07 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos In-Reply-To: <007e01c39a50$e4d48520$afcadece@0018079268> References: <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023214922.00bb3f70@pop.gwi.net> <002001c399dc$040fb920$afcadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Don't get me started on this bizarre > > concept of "the casino's money". > >I wonder where it would go if you got >started. Hmm. > - D. M. Search the archives. I remember it well. Giggles got involved in the discussion also. He referred to the casino on the NC side of the Great Smokey Mountains. That was back when we lived on the TN side. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 13:20:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OIJw6q017993 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:19:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BEA0D1E60062; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:17:24 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D9361E600D2 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:17:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1C951@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 14:10:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14813789 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 14:10:29 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OIAS524643 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 14:10:28 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-204.gwi.net [216.195.157.204]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9OIAOGn066808 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 14:10:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031024141013.00bb0958@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 14:10:35 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos In-Reply-To: <000801c39a53$79d0dc80$afcadece@0018079268> References: <3F98255C.BF3B90ED@maynor.net> <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <3F988D4B.6F9E8413@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024074207.00b27f20@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > >The casino sucks individuals and even communities dry. > > > > > >You know that some states have a tax on the poor. It's > > >called the lottery. Casinos are a bit like that. > > > - D. M. > > > > And yet you find that a good investment. Shame on you. > > bonnie > >What I do or don't do in this instance >won't change a thing. > - D. M. Alyce is weeping in her grave. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 13:27:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OIRh6q018130 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:27:43 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0CA391E6006F; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:25:10 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2DF51E60068 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:25:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1C989@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 14:18:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14814546 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 14:18:14 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OIID526859 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 14:18:13 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-175.inebraska.com [206.222.202.175]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9OIIBth019334 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:18:12 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000601c39a5b$1b972ea0$afcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: Indians and Casinos Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:17:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos > So unless doing the right thing will have some tangible impact, it isn't > worth doing, eh? Where's the categorical imperative when you need it? Er, I'm not into building a philosophy this morning. Damned if I know the answer to your question. Just living life a moment at a time. And not analyzing it, that's for sure. Analysis leads to paralysis, that's my motto. (I just now made it up, to my surprise, but it's true, from my point of view) - D. M. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 13:53:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OIrg6q018331 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:53:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A79A51E6006F; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:51:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 505C41E60043 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:51:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1CAA3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 14:44:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14817016 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 14:44:12 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law9-oe19.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.123]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OIiA501461 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 14:44:10 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:44:04 -0700 Received: from 199.174.0.30 by law9-oe19.law9.hotmail.com with DAV; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:44:03 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [199.174.0.30] X-Originating-Email: [amyb_short@hotmail.com] From: "Amy Burns Short" To: Subject: QOTW Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:44:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Oct 2003 18:44:04.0401 (UTC) FILETIME=[CC702210:01C39A5E] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris M.: >Analysis leads to paralysis, that's my motto. Now that's a nailheader! All I can say about all varieties of newbie casinos is that they're tacky. But then, I was spoiled at a tender age by the very finest. AS From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 14:15:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OJF76q018536 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 14:15:08 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0422F1E60066; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 14:12:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CCE11E60064 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 14:12:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1CB4A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:05:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14818602 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:05:37 -0400 Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OJ5bG06150 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:05:37 -0400 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HN900H2LZPCC4@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:05:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [167.206.5.73] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:01:55 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:01:55 -0400 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <138262134782.134782138262@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > recommendationsto Maine. Of course, there is a conflict of > interest. There are no > casinos in Massachusetts. Maine's casino would largely draw from > Mass,taking customers away from Connecticut. No casinos in Rhode Island or New York either. Seems there were mostly New Yorkers there last time we were at Mohegan Sun (two weeks ago) -- the whoops and yelps coincided mostly with good things the Yankees did. Or maybe (go figya) the Yankee fans were just more vocal. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 15:19:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OKJO6q019322 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:19:24 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EC81B1E6006C; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:16:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE3771E6006A for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:16:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1CD57@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:09:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14822783 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:09:53 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OJxqG16914 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:59:52 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9OJxQPi030979 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:59:26 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:59:52 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: my pet Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I forgot to tell you earlier - I was given a pet for my room when I arrived - so I have a pet goldfish for the weekend. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 15:26:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OKQi6q019388 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:26:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A5D6F1E60063; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:24:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C2CE1E60062 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:24:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1CDA9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:17:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14824305 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:17:13 -0400 Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com (web20502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9OKHDG20253 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:17:13 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:17:12 PDT Message-ID: <20031024201712.1963.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:17:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031024141013.00bb0958@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Alyce is weeping in her grave. Ought we not to be more concerned about the tears of the living? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 15:28:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OKSJ6q019421 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:28:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4DE9A1E6006E; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:25:45 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCFD01E6006C for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:25:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1CDC3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:18:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14824536 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:18:48 -0400 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9OKIlG20616 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:18:47 -0400 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:18:46 PDT Message-ID: <20031024201846.24196.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:18:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: my pet To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > I forgot to tell you earlier - I was given a pet for > my room when I > arrived - so I have a pet goldfish for the weekend. > > Bethany What's his name? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 15:32:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OKWA6q019471 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:32:10 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D22861E6006A; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:29:35 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7498B1E60063 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:29:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1CDDD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:22:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14824911 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:22:39 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OKMdG21378 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:22:39 -0400 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003102420223101100oi7q9e>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:22:31 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031024132150.047714e8@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:22:55 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos In-Reply-To: <20031024201712.1963.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031024141013.00bb0958@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber writes, >Ought we not to be more concerned about the tears of >the living? The remark is about the souls of the living, not the tears of the dead. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 16:32:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OLW06q020174 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:32:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5C4411E60069; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:29:25 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 273C31E6006B for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:29:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1D05B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:22:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14830587 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:22:29 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OLMTG31598 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:22:29 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-175.inebraska.com [206.222.202.175]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9OLMPth022729 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:22:27 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001a01c39a74$d8683e20$afcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3F98255C.BF3B90ED@maynor.net> <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <3F988D4B.6F9E8413@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024074207.00b27f20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024141013.00bb0958@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: Re: Indians and Casinos Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:21:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Alyce is weeping in her grave. > > > bonnie If you have a direct line, tell her the news about Wal-Mart today. She might like that. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 16:36:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OLav6q020205 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:36:57 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6CC9B1E6006D; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:34:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39EFD1E6006B for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:34:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1D079@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:27:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14830881 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:27:26 -0400 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OLRQG32448 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:27:26 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.40.36239fee (4230) for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:26:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <40.36239fee.2ccaf2f0@aol.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:26:08 EDT Subject: Re: Pup in the woods To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/24/2003 1:31:57 AM, stevie@MULTINIX.COM writes: >Jeez Theo, the words for male and female dogs are "reu" and >"teef", and I get a good laugh out of people when I call myself >the "wachtword teef", because I get to decide who can have the >passwords. Do a google on lekkere teef, and the whole first page >is porn. > Well, perhaps I wasn't raised to be familiar with porn! I can't for the world of me remember those words. But I've been gone for many years already, and my memory isn't all that reliable anymore either. But you gave me an idea for wachtwoorden. There's a Dutch board I've been trying to get on, and I'm having problems with it. I suddenly remember the word "wentelteef". Do you know what it is? Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 16:40:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OLeO6q020249 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:40:24 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A1D9F1E60069; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:37:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DB611E60062 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:37:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1D076@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:30:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14830988 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:30:53 -0400 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OLUrG00435 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:30:53 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.72.33687d07 (4230) for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:30:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <72.33687d07.2ccaf3fc@aol.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:30:36 EDT Subject: Re: Pup in the woods To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/24/2003 4:31:03 AM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >> > ? Why did you suspect I'd have trouble with honden? >> >> It was my concern you might have trouble with katzen. > >Oh yes. I also have that concern. In about an hour I will go do the >morning feeding and hope that the katzen are still ok. > No trouble at all. How about "kat en muis spelen?" Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 16:53:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OLrO6q020326 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:53:24 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AC3BF1E60063; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:50:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 724FF1E60062 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:50:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001BC0BD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:43:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14831892 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:43:52 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OLhjG02751 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:43:45 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-204.gwi.net [216.195.157.204]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9OLhiGn092722 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:43:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031024174249.00ba28c0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:43:56 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos In-Reply-To: <20031024201712.1963.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031024141013.00bb0958@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Alyce is weeping in her grave. > >Ought we not to be more concerned about the tears of >the living? Indeed. I was trying to provide Doris with a little moral guidance. Perhaps I should knit Doris a bracelet with the letters "WWAD". Alyce would be happy they nailed those bastards at WalMart. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 16:53:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OLrU6q020329 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:53:30 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B3E231E60069; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:50:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 860111E60062 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:50:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1D0C6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:43:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14831896 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:43:52 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OLhqG02790 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:43:52 -0400 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003102421434501500a5hn2e>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:43:46 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031024144021.04d9a310@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 14:44:11 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Pup in the woods In-Reply-To: <40.36239fee.2ccaf2f0@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof writes, >I suddenly remember the word "wentelteef". Do you know what it is? I'll guess french toast (pain perdu). Which brings me to a joke which I almost get: What do you call a stewardess in a helicopter? A wentelteefje. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 16:53:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OLrj6q020332 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:53:45 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BB7271E60070; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:51:10 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CEBA1E60069 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:51:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001BC0C0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:44:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14831938 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:44:14 -0400 Received: from imo-m03.mx.aol.com (imo-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.6]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OLiEG02926 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:44:14 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.4d.367a8cd5 (4230) for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:43:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <4d.367a8cd5.2ccaf70f@aol.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:43:43 EDT Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/24/2003 5:52:34 AM, bonniev@GWI.NET writes: >>I also noticed that many of the people in that casino looked poor. I >>find it very, very hard to comprehend that kind of addiction -- how >>somebody with limited money would choose to spend it on gambling. > Because they hope to hit the jackpot and become rich! But if they were smart they wouldn't gamble with their meager income of course either. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 17:00:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OM0l6q020392 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:00:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BEEC31E6006D; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:58:12 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 910001E6006B for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:58:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1D109@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:51:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14832338 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:51:16 -0400 Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OLpGG03669 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:51:16 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.41.3595628e (4230) for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:51:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <41.3595628e.2ccaf8ca@aol.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:51:06 EDT Subject: Re: Katzen Report To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/24/2003 6:58:59 AM, maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU writes: >Es geht den Katzen gut. Das ist wunderbar. Aber es ist "die Katzen". Entschuldigung.;-} Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 17:09:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OM9C6q020555 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:09:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C75121E60075; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:06:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954051E60070 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:06:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1D119@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:59:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14832751 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:59:41 -0400 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OLxfG04465 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:59:41 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9OLxdYY024963 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 14:59:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F99A08B.8060402@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:58:35 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU That generation apparently used up all their moral reasoning abilities during the Great War when they all rushed off to serve their country. Marty Rosen wrote: > So unless doing the right thing will have some tangible impact, it isn't > worth doing, eh? Where's the categorical imperative when you need it? > >> From: Doris Markland >> What I do or don't do in this instance >> won't change a thing. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Concerned that messages may bounce because your Hotmail account has > exceeded > its 2MB storage limit? Get Hotmail Extra Storage! > http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 17:40:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OMeS6q020798 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:40:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 578DC1E60076; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:37:53 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 256951E60074 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:37:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1D1E0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:30:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14834617 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:30:57 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OMUvG08580 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:30:57 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.58]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031024223051.OKJB1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:30:51 -0400 Message-ID: <3F99A81B.57EBC90C@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:30:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: zipping up the dogs References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen wrote: > > http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/24/nyregion/24DOGS.html?hp Interesting stuff. I'm surprised that mutts are the most common kind of dog in NYC. I would assume that to be true for the country as a whole, but what are the breeding opportunities in NYC? Do dogs prowl the streets in some burroughs? Or do people with mutts get them together for planned sex-play? I think of NYC dogs as leading lives, with their play time carefully supervised. I've seen them romping around somewhat freely in Central Park. Maybe some of them nip into the bushes quickly while their human companions aren't noticing. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 17:41:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OMfg6q020807 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:41:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 45D8B1E60076; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:39:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 161751E60074 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:39:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1D1E6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:32:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14834672 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:32:11 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OMWBG08758 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:32:11 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.58]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031024223205.OKRH1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:32:05 -0400 Message-ID: <3F99A864.8094D328@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:32:04 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos References: <3F98255C.BF3B90ED@maynor.net> <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <3F988D4B.6F9E8413@maynor.net> <003f01c399dd$e454f120$afcadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024075155.00b2b230@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > >I also noticed that many of the people in that casino looked poor. I > >find it very, very hard to comprehend that kind of addiction -- how > >somebody with limited money would choose to spend it on gambling. > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > Do you also find it hard to understand how people with very little money > would spend it on recreational drugs? No, I don't find it as hard to understand addiction to drugs. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 17:51:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OMpV6q020870 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:51:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B29691E600B7; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:48:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 836381E60092 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:48:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1D20C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:41:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14835077 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:41:59 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OMfxG10097 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:41:59 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.58]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031024224154.ONJC1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:41:54 -0400 Message-ID: <3F99AAB1.D934B6E9@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:41:53 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos References: <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023214922.00bb3f70@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024092854.00b32ec8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > minister who was leading the dry cause was asked if it didn't bother him > that although his county was dry, it was benefiting from state tax money > garnered from the sale of liquor in wet counties. He saw nothing wrong or > illogical in that at all. Although not exactly the same thing, this reminds me of the days of the black-market tax on liquor in Mississippi. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 17:55:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OMti6q020932 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:55:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CD6DB1E60092; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:53:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC741E60083 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:53:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1D21F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:46:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14835187 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:46:12 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OMkCG10565 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:46:12 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.58]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031024224607.OONP1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:46:07 -0400 Message-ID: <3F99ABAE.65901303@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:46:06 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Katzen Report References: <20031024134423.45071.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > Es geht den Katzen gut. > > --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) > > Cat gut. Yes. And die Katzen are still gut. Both are still outside since the weather is still gorgeous. It's supposed to start raining sometime tomorrow and then turn cold on Sunday. I think tomorrow afternoon I'll go on and suggest to Ugly that he come into the house, where he can then stay until the return of his human companion Tuesday night. I just hope that once he's in the house he makes himself visible when I arrive to feed him. I would worry otherwise. The good thing now is that both of them have been present and accounted for at all the feedings so far. I can imagine that once inside the house, Ugly might hide in another room when I'm there, making me worry about whether he was alive and well. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 17:59:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9OMxn6q020968 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:59:49 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6C3A21E60078; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:57:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 396911E60076 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:57:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1D21F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:50:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14835314 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:50:18 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OMoIG10914 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:50:18 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.58]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031024225013.OPRF1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:50:13 -0400 Message-ID: <3F99ACA4.F5E639D0@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:50:12 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031024100043.00b467d0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > A commissioner of the county which houses the casino also > complains that what money that goes to the state from casino profit gets > divided equally among the counties whereas his county bears the brunt of > the expense. He's had to add members to the police force and to the road > maintenance crews. I haven't heard anything about added costs because of the casinos here, whether the floating ones or the Choctaw one. The Choctaw one pays no taxes to the state, but I guess the floating ones do. Snow-plow operation is not, of course, a consideration since Mississippi has no snow plows. But policing might be. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 18:03:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ON346q021001 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:03:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4AB8E1E60076; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:00:29 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A2031E60074 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:00:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1D239@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:53:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14835558 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:53:26 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OMrQG11481 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:53:26 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.58]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031024225320.OQJX1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:53:20 -0400 Message-ID: <3F99AD60.FD21CD9F@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:53:20 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos References: <3F98255C.BF3B90ED@maynor.net> <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <3F988D4B.6F9E8413@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU nam gal sips clark wrote: > >There's one in Bay St. Louis, but I didn't notice anything that > >struck me as casino-related in my reconnoitering of BSL. > > Certainly you noticed the difference > between today's Rt. 90 and the way > it was in your youth? Although I'm sure I went through BSL in my youth since my family once drove to New Orleans from Gulfport after a cottonseed convention, I have no memory at all of BSL from before my recent visits there. So no, I don't remember Hwy 90 in BSL from my youth. I do notice a difference in Gulfport and Biloxi because all those casinos are lined up along the beach. But I was talking about the ambience of BSL, not what Gulfport and Biloxi are like. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 18:04:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ON4I6q021023 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:04:18 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E5D261E60083; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:01:42 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B45411E60074 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:01:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1D23E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:54:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14835625 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:54:47 -0400 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OMskG11656 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:54:46 -0400 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9OMsisV4407362 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:54:45 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:54:44 -0500 (CDT) From: nam gal sips clark X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: erratum In-Reply-To: <3F99A08B.8060402@swbell.net> Message-ID: References: <3F99A08B.8060402@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I double checked, and... "In the Hands of the Great Spirit" cites the Turning Stone Casino in Verona, NY as a poster child for success, not the Sun, as I posted earlier. It was the newspaper pieces I've been reading lately that mentioned the Sun as a success story. -- The editors apologize for this grievous error, and assure you that the responsible parties have been disciplined. Harshly. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 18:08:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ON8h6q021065 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:08:43 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E88E71E60078; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:06:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B91F11E60075 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:06:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1D25E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:59:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14835918 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:59:12 -0400 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9OMxBG12174 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:59:11 -0400 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9OMx9sV983114 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:59:10 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:59:09 -0500 (CDT) From: nam gal sips clark X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos In-Reply-To: <3F99A08B.8060402@swbell.net> Message-ID: References: <3F99A08B.8060402@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > That generation apparently used up all their moral reasoning > abilities during the Great War when they all rushed off to > serve their country. The Great War was WWI. It's that groupie Brokaw's "Greatest Generation" that apparently used up all their moral reasoning rushing off to serve in the next one. Thanks for listening. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 18:14:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ONE26q021100 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:14:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D72A21E60092; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:11:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A460C1E60078 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:11:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001BC272@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:04:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14836402 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:04:30 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law9-f106.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ON4UG12770 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:04:30 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:04:25 -0700 Received: from 68.31.205.112 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:04:24 GMT X-Originating-IP: [68.31.205.112] X-Originating-Email: [toalanne@hotmail.com] From: "Anne Toal" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: well well wel Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:04:24 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Oct 2003 23:04:25.0199 (UTC) FILETIME=[2B28BFF0:01C39A83] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm humming that phrase "well well well" because I'm getting better. When they stuck the needle in my kidney yesterday, they pulled out a large amount of pus. Which might have been scary if I hadn't first been told I might have a life threatening illness, but which sounded like the best news in the world at the time. So now I'm spending a few days in the hospital with a drain hanging out of my kidney and taking strong antibiotics. It's a darn sight better outcome than I was afraid of. Thanks to everyone for all the positive energy and thoughts. -aht _________________________________________________________________ Enjoy MSN 8 patented spam control and more with MSN 8 Dial-up Internet Service. Try it FREE for one month! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 18:16:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ONGN6q021133 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:16:23 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AC1121E600AC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:13:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 777741E60076 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:13:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1D297@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:06:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14836543 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:06:51 -0400 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ON6pG13115 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:06:51 -0400 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9ON6nsV8929416 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:06:49 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:06:49 -0500 (CDT) From: nam gal sips clark X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos In-Reply-To: <3F99ACA4.F5E639D0@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031024100043.00b467d0@pop.gwi.net> <3F99ACA4.F5E639D0@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I haven't heard anything about added costs because of the casinos here, Orleans Parish bears the costs of the additional police (and garbage collection, etc.) around the Canal Street casino, but the other 63 parishes share (in theory) whatever meager profits that garish dump ever manages to excrete. Also, when the legislature legalized this form of , instead of forming a Nevada-style gaming board to do all the necessary work, they just assigned the task to the state police, without doing anything to fund the extra work. All in all, it's a real piece of work, as they say. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 18:24:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ONOj6q021294 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:24:46 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BA1021E60078; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:20:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8725F1E60074 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:20:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1D2CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:13:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14836939 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:13:56 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ONDuG14394 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:13:56 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.58]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031024231351.OVJC1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:13:51 -0400 Message-ID: <3F99B22E.FE46DCA5@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:13:50 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The White Dog is Safe! References: <20031024162627.63121.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > > > I asked my class if they knew anything about the > > white dog. They told me that > > > it was captured by the vet center (they put some > > food in a cage) and that > > > there is a list of people who want to adopt it. > > YaY for the White Dog! He has tricked them into > finding him a luxurious and undemanding home. The Vet School (if indeed that is who caught him -- a wheelchaired grad student I've talked with about him, asking her if he chased her wheelchair since I had seen him chasing a wheelchair, said this afternoon that a local vet had sent somebody to try to catch him earlier but that the person had failed -- maybe that's who succeeded this time -- that vet's establishment is named something like Animal Medical Center) -- this sentence is too long -- will restart it. The Vet School might not be an undemanding home. Except for the fact of the "list of people who want to adopt it," I might have worried a bit since there have always been rumors that the Vet School picks up dogs to use as cadavers or whatever. I was fairly sure that this dog was too well known around campus for that to be his fate, but I'm still somewhat glad to have gotten the later report that he is at the shelter. Though the living quarters are not luxurious (they will be much better when we build the new shelter), the workers there, both paid and volunteer, do an outstanding job at making it a pleasant place. And they are obviously doing one-on-one psychological work with The White Dog. And he will obviously be adopted as soon as he's ready. > Now you need a mystery deserving of your talents. Well, I've got the key to the cat house with who knows what mysteries hidden there. Shall I snoop around in search of mysteries and their solutions? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 18:25:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ONPw6q021298 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:25:58 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CBCE51E60092; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:23:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95E631E60083 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:23:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1D2C6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:16:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14837065 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:16:26 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ONGQG14962 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:16:26 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.58]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031024231621.OVZW1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:16:21 -0400 Message-ID: <3F99B2C4.FF8892D5@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:16:20 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos References: <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023214922.00bb3f70@pop.gwi.net> <002001c399dc$040fb920$afcadece@0018079268> <3F9900C7.80695264@maynor.net> <003f01c39a4b$feed5fe0$afcadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > I don't know, probably Methodist. But what tickles me is > that she feels so guilty going into the casino, yet she doesn't > feel guilty about playing her free ten dollars because that's > somebody else's money. That just doesn't sound like Methodist thinking to me -- the part about feeling guilty about going into the casino. But then I do realize that Methodists vary widely and that the Methodist church I grew up in was considered both "high church" (i.e., very close to Episcopal) and "liberal." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 18:28:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ONS96q021314 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:28:09 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2C1871E60078; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:25:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC9CB1E60074 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:25:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1D2D9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:18:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14837260 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:18:38 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ONIcG15476 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:18:38 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.58]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031024231832.OWOD1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:18:32 -0400 Message-ID: <3F99B347.5F7644A9@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:18:31 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos References: <12f29d12ae89.12ae8912f29d@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > It's actually a very nice place, although kind of mall-like. Nicely decorated with lots of beautiful beadwork. And several decent restaurants. Actually a sister restaurant to Virgil's is there too. The topic of casinos arose again today at lunch very, very briefly, and several people said that one of the restaurants at the Choctaw casino was truly outstanding -- was worth driving the forty or so miles to just to eat. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 18:29:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ONTF6q021325 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:29:15 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 72F641E60079; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:26:39 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 439BE1E60076 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:26:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1D2DF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:19:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14837360 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:19:43 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ONJgG15755 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:19:43 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 24ED12B8EF; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:19:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B2062B8E6 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:19:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:19:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: ta ta Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU to Florida. Nomail. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 18:34:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ONYB6q021336 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:34:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 32D701E600AC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:31:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED31D1E60078 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:31:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1D311@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:24:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14837604 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:24:40 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ONOdG16142 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:24:39 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.58]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031024232434.OXYW1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:24:34 -0400 Message-ID: <3F99B4B1.345A264D@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:24:33 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos References: <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023214922.00bb3f70@pop.gwi.net> <002001c399dc$040fb920$afcadece@0018079268> <007e01c39a50$e4d48520$afcadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > Now they are up and off to work, have money to improve their communities > and schools, etc. So there are many good things to be said. I have heard many good things about the Choctaw casino in Mississippi and what it has meant to the Choctaws and to the surrounding areas. I can't remember ever having heard anything bad about it, although I have perhaps not paid attention -- AND I did see those poor-looking people staring intently at slot machines there on my one visit, perhaps blowing their entire food budget. Iow, I do see the negatives re the people who blow their money there. But I haven't been aware of any negatives re the community in general, etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 18:44:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ONic6q021449 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:44:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 085BA1E600AC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:42:03 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDFD01E60076 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:42:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1D32D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:35:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14838190 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:35:07 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ONZ6G17701 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:35:06 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.58]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031024233501.ENIV1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:35:01 -0400 Message-ID: <3F99B724.32DB7B8A@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:35:00 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen wrote: > In Tunica, where I sometimes play poker, This casino topic is revealing all kinds of interesting things about Wordslers entering my state when I didn't even know it -- B&C in Vicksburg, Nipper in Tunica. Next thing I'm going to hear is that Tushar and Karen were at the harness races at the Starkville horse park. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 18:47:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ONl76q021472 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:47:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CA44F1E600B7; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:44:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99AD81E600AC for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:44:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1D353@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:37:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14838297 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:37:35 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ONbZG17907 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:37:35 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-175.inebraska.com [206.222.202.175]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9ONbWth014361 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:37:33 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <003101c39a87$bc065560$afcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023214922.00bb3f70@pop.gwi.net> <002001c399dc$040fb920$afcadece@0018079268> <3F9900C7.80695264@maynor.net> <003f01c39a4b$feed5fe0$afcadece@0018079268> <3F99B2C4.FF8892D5@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Indians and Casinos Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:37:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Doris Markland wrote: > > > I don't know, probably Methodist. But what tickles me is > > that she feels so guilty going into the casino, yet she doesn't > > feel guilty about playing her free ten dollars because that's > > somebody else's money. > > That just doesn't sound like Methodist thinking to me -- the part about > feeling guilty about going into the casino. But then I do realize that > Methodists vary widely and that the Methodist church I grew up in was > considered both "high church" (i.e., very close to Episcopal) and > "liberal." > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I was never aware there was anything like a high church among the Methodist congregations. Nor have I heard of any Methodist church that had much in common with the Episcopal church, by way of services. In fact, I can't imagine two churches much more different. So I guess my church must have been a low one, eh? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 18:48:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ONmr6q021479 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:48:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CC00A1E60076; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:46:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 998C11E60074 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:46:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1D35F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:39:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14838414 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:39:21 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ONdLG18147 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:39:21 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.58]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031024233916.EOOE1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:39:16 -0400 Message-ID: <3F99B823.9F907823@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:39:15 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen wrote: > Here, money is flowing from a > wide range of areas into an undeveloped area. Most of the profits are being > shipped off to multinationals, since most of the casinos are owned by large > corporations. But there's an obvious impact on wages and employment in the > immediate area. My guess would be that Tunica has some adverse effect on > Memphis, in that it drains tourism and entertainment dollars from that city, > which is a short drive away. I'm not on top of the Tunica situation, but I will say that pre-casinos Tunica County was famous for being the poorest county in the whole U.S.A. Major poverty. I don't know exactly where it falls now in the poverty scales, but I think it has risen quite a bit. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 18:51:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ONp26q021497 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:51:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B3E7A1E600B7; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:48:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85D5B1E60076 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:48:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1D347@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:41:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14838464 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:41:30 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ONfUG18336 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:41:30 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.58]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031024234125.EPCE1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:41:25 -0400 Message-ID: <3F99B8A4.63D5CA4C@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:41:24 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Further Word References: <200310241742.h9OHgkQJ026802@ra.msstate.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > (I have no idea what "Take 30" is.) Googling made me find that it's some student tv production at MSU -- something that is considered part of the training for people going into tv broadcasting. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 18:53:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ONrZ6q021536 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:53:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CABB21E600CA; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:50:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D92831E600AC for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:50:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1D36B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:43:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14838565 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:43:55 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ONhtG18725 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:43:55 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.58]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031024234350.EPUA1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:43:50 -0400 Message-ID: <3F99B935.F16B5098@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:43:49 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos References: <3F98255C.BF3B90ED@maynor.net> <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <3F988D4B.6F9E8413@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024074207.00b27f20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024141013.00bb0958@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > >What I do or don't do in this instance > >won't change a thing. > > - D. M. > > Alyce is weeping in her grave. I sure miss Alyce. There are so many things I would love to hear her take on. And this is a dumb posting since I'm sure we all feel that way. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 18:55:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ONtK6q021556 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:55:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1339D1E600C9; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:52:45 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D29CD1E600C6 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:52:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1D36C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:45:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14838699 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:45:49 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ONjmG19069 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:45:48 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-175.inebraska.com [206.222.202.175]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9ONjkth028690 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:45:47 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <004001c39a88$e278c060$afcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3F99A08B.8060402@swbell.net> Subject: Re: Re: Indians and Casinos Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:45:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita: > That generation apparently used up all their moral reasoning > abilities during the Great War when they all rushed off to > serve their country. Rita, are you talking about me or are you talking about the generation I was born into? Whichever, your statement still has snot hanging all over it. And what is the criticism? Did I miss something? Am I doing something you think wrong? I'm confused. Do you think it's wrong for me to gamble? Would you think me wrong if I didn't gamble and support my neighbors' business? Or what? Whatever you think wrong probably has absolutely nothing to do with the generation. You just have something stuck in your craw on that subject. Your parents and aunts and uncles, etc., must have given you a bad time. - D. M. > > Marty Rosen wrote: > > > So unless doing the right thing will have some tangible impact, it isn't > > worth doing, eh? Where's the categorical imperative when you need it? > > > >> From: Doris Markland > >> What I do or don't do in this instance > >> won't change a thing. > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Concerned that messages may bounce because your Hotmail account has > > exceeded > > its 2MB storage limit? Get Hotmail Extra Storage! > > http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es > > > > > -- > Rita Rouvalis Chapman > rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org > http://www.etext.org/~rita > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 19:10:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P0AJ6q021785 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:10:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2E23B1E600D2; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:07:43 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F30D81E600B7 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:07:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001BC350@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:00:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14839188 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:00:47 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9P00kG20480 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:00:47 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.58]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031025000041.LXFJ1852.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:00:41 -0400 Message-ID: <3F99BD28.9CB83E5B@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:00:40 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: my pet References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > I forgot to tell you earlier - I was given a pet for my room when I > arrived - so I have a pet goldfish for the weekend. You've been given it by the hotel or by somebody else? What are you feeding it? Are you having intercourse with it? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 19:11:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P0BH6q021806 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:11:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 138611E60076; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:08:42 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8C2C1E600C9 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:08:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1D3A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:01:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14839235 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:01:46 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9P01jG20629 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:01:45 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.58]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031025000140.LXMX1852.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:01:40 -0400 Message-ID: <3F99BD63.E47DD48@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:01:39 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos References: <20031024201712.1963.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > > Alyce is weeping in her grave. > > Ought we not to be more concerned about the tears of > the living? Not necessarily. I believe that the tears of people like Alyce are extremely significant. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 19:16:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P0GI6q021854 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:16:18 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DE9691E600CA; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:13:42 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC2061E60076 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:13:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1D3B8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:06:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14839429 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:06:46 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9P06kG21166 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:06:46 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.58]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031025000641.LYYS1852.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:06:41 -0400 Message-ID: <3F99BE90.1B6D7585@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:06:40 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: my pet References: <20031024201846.24196.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > What's his name? It was sad when Balboa died on the Drake island. Can y'all believe how close Rupert came to being voted off last night? It's true that he's a threat, of course. I've been watching with interest our little redneck mortician hanging in there quite impressively. She's under the radar, seems to have no real enemies, and is quietly skillful in all of the challenges. Her shot of the canon last night wasn't commented on, but did y'all notice that it was the most in the middle of them all? After watching that audition tape, I was appalled and embarrassed by her. She is indeed a redneck. And I also thought that she'd be gone within the first few rounds. But now I'm thinking that she might just make it quite a way -- possibly even all the way. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 19:19:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P0JD6q021902 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:19:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 118A51E60076; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:16:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D81591E600BD for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:16:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1D3B5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:09:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14839536 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:09:35 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9P09ZG21465 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:09:35 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.58]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031025000929.MABC1852.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:09:29 -0400 Message-ID: <3F99BF39.E7AEBB44@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:09:29 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos References: <3F98255C.BF3B90ED@maynor.net> <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <3F988D4B.6F9E8413@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024074207.00b27f20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024141013.00bb0958@pop.gwi.net> <001a01c39a74$d8683e20$afcadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > If you have a direct line, tell her the > news about Wal-Mart today. She > might like that. I was wondering earlier today about what she might think about it. I'm not sure. She would be for the illegal aliens, I bet, but against Wmart. Do you think what she might like is that her hated Wmart fired them? She might like that they had hired them. I'm not really sure -- this is part of the confusing stuff I mentioned earlier on this topic. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 19:23:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P0Nu6q021935 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:23:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 83D521E600D5; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:21:20 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 511631E600D2 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:21:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1D3D6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:14:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14839745 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:14:24 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9P0EOG21892 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:14:24 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.58]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031025001419.MBZJ1852.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:14:19 -0400 Message-ID: <3F99C05A.19103ADD@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:14:18 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: well well wel References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Anne Toal wrote: > > I'm humming that phrase "well well well" because I'm getting better. When > they stuck the needle in my kidney yesterday, they pulled out a large amount > of pus. Which might have been scary if I hadn't first been told I might have > a life threatening illness, but which sounded like the best news in the > world at the time. So now I'm spending a few days in the hospital with a > drain hanging out of my kidney and taking strong antibiotics. It's a darn > sight better outcome than I was afraid of. Thanks to everyone for all the > positive energy and thoughts. YAY, YAY, YAY!! Let's hear it for pus!! And let's hear it for laptops and computer-savvy patients who communicate these good things to us promptly!! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 19:36:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P0af6q022033 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:36:41 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 27E831E600D2; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:34:05 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED59D1E600CA for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:34:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1D3F0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:27:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14840157 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:27:09 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9P0R8G22773 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:27:08 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.58]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031025002703.GHOY1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:27:03 -0400 Message-ID: <3F99C356.69196215@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:27:02 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos [att: clo] References: <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023214922.00bb3f70@pop.gwi.net> <002001c399dc$040fb920$afcadece@0018079268> <3F9900C7.80695264@maynor.net> <003f01c39a4b$feed5fe0$afcadece@0018079268> <3F99B2C4.FF8892D5@maynor.net> <003101c39a87$bc065560$afcadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > I was never aware there was anything > like a high church among the Methodist > congregations. Nor have I heard of any > Methodist church that had much in > common with the Episcopal church, by > way of services. In fact, I can't imagine > two churches much more different. > So I guess my church must have been a > low one, eh? Yes, I would say so. But I find it suprising that even the lowest of low (re church-service styles -- reminds me of when I have to explain to my students in HOTEL about high-German and low-German -- that it's not a value judgment) -- another too long sentence -- will start it again. It is very surprising to me that you don't see a strong similarity between the Methodist and Episcopal Churches. As I think I've mentioned here before, I rarely had to look at the prayer book to know the words to what we were saying in the various rituals when I was singing in the Episcopal Church choir since the words were almost precisely the same words I had been saying for years in Methodist churches. Surely you realize that John Wesley lived and died an Anglican. And what about the AME (African Methodist-Episcopal Churuch), which was, I think, an offshoot of the American Methodist-Episcopal Church? I don't think the latter still exists, but the former does (latter/former in relation to my sentence structure, not in relation to their chronology). I am downright flabbergasted -- as in beyond words -- at your statement that you can't imagine two churches much more different. I'm not sure that I can think of any two denominations any more alike. Where are you, Clo? We need your input. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 19:38:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P0ce6q022047 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:38:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9E6E61E600CA; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:36:04 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D06C1E600BD for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:36:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001BC3A6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:29:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14840231 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:29:08 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9P0T8G22909 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:29:08 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.58]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031025002903.GIGV1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:29:03 -0400 Message-ID: <3F99C3CE.F9BFDD21@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:29:02 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos References: <3F99A08B.8060402@swbell.net> <004001c39a88$e278c060$afcadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > Rita: > > That generation apparently used up all their moral reasoning > > abilities during the Great War when they all rushed off to > > serve their country. > > Rita, are you talking about me or are > you talking about the generation I was > born into? Whichever, your statement > still has snot hanging all over it. As I think I've noted before, Rita is very much into . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 19:38:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P0cv6q022061 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:38:57 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D9BE71E6007E; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:36:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA8B11E60076 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:36:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1D407@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:29:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14840265 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:29:25 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9P0TPG22935 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:29:25 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-204.gwi.net [216.195.157.204]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9P0TKGn011277 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:29:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031024202727.00bad840@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:29:33 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos In-Reply-To: <3F99B935.F16B5098@maynor.net> References: <3F98255C.BF3B90ED@maynor.net> <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <3F988D4B.6F9E8413@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024074207.00b27f20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024141013.00bb0958@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I sure miss Alyce. There are so many things I would love to hear her >take on. And this is a dumb posting since I'm sure we all feel that >way. -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) It's nice to say it once in awhile, though. I now have knitted 15 pairs of children's mittens with the yarn she sent me. And I have plenty of yarn left. Natalie, have you given up on Patricia Cornwell? I just started her latest Scarpetta novel, Blowfly. It's pretty good. The novel starts out in Knoxville. Scarpetta has moved to Florida and it looks like she will be working the novel's case in Baton Rouge. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 19:40:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P0eq6q022079 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:40:52 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CCE2E1E600D2; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:38:16 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EBCB1E600C9 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:38:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1D3F5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:31:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14840363 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:31:20 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9P0VKG23197 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:31:20 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-204.gwi.net [216.195.157.204]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9P0VJGn011489 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:31:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031024203040.00bc2eb8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:31:32 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: my pet In-Reply-To: <3F99BE90.1B6D7585@maynor.net> References: <20031024201846.24196.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >It was sad when Balboa died on the Drake island. Can y'all believe how >close Rupert came to being voted off last night? > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I was very relieved when he wasn't voted off. I even shouted out "YES!" when it was the woman instead of our Rupert. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 19:48:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P0ml6q022212 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:48:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0B3A51E60081; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:46:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C73531E60084 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:46:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1D41B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:39:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14840587 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:39:14 -0400 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9P0dEG23883 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:39:14 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9P0dDNt007850 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:39:13 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3F99C5F0.7010308@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:38:08 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos References: <3F99A08B.8060402@swbell.net> <004001c39a88$e278c060$afcadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > Rita: > > >> That generation apparently used up all their moral reasoning >>abilities during the Great War when they all rushed off to >>serve their country. >> > > Rita, are you talking about me or are > you talking about the generation I was > born into? Whichever, your statement > still has snot hanging all over it. Duh. Of course I'm being snotty. You don't approve of gambling, see that it penalizes the poor, but you are trying to make money off it. That's just incredibly cynical. Especially a week after saying how idealistic people from Nebraska are. > And what is the criticism? Did I > miss something? Am I doing something > you think wrong? I'm confused. Do > you think it's wrong for me to gamble? > Would you think me wrong if I didn't > gamble and support my neighbors' > business? Or what? Whatever you think > wrong probably has absolutely nothing to > do with the generation. You just have > something stuck in your craw on that > subject. Your parents and aunts and > uncles, etc., must have given you a bad > time. > >>Marty Rosen wrote: >> >> >>>So unless doing the right thing will have some tangible impact, it >>> > isn't > >>>worth doing, eh? Where's the categorical imperative when you need >>> > it? > >>>>From: Doris Markland >>>>What I do or don't do in this instance >>>>won't change a thing. >>>> >>> >>>_________________________________________________________________ >>>Concerned that messages may bounce because your Hotmail account has >>>exceeded >>>its 2MB storage limit? Get Hotmail Extra Storage! >>>http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es >>> >>> >> >>-- >>Rita Rouvalis Chapman >>rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org >>http://www.etext.org/~rita >> >> >> > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 19:53:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P0rp6q022260 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:53:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 85AA11E60082; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:51:15 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51A711E60076 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:51:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1D427@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:44:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14840717 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:44:19 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9P0iJG24406 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:44:19 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9P0iI8b011783 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:44:18 -0400 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9P0iIfC028845 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:44:18 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:44:17 -0400 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CCC Message-ID: <706779031.1067028257@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <3F98FB96.5080208@bc.edu> References: <3F971382.E74C5DD2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022211712.00b9d980@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031022221159.00bb3d20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023091929.00b26938@pop.gwi.net> <3F982967.FD68360@maynor.net> <3F982B2A.80002@bc.edu> <3F982F00.3AC31374@maynor.net> <3F983153.4040904@bc.edu> <622069265.1066943547@TWild.uri.edu> <3F98FB96.5080208@bc.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Yes, we are very happy with it. Until we were able to get these > channels through the dish, we were not able to watch any of the > broadcast network programming. Lots of fuzz and static :-( > > Initially, all we got were the three major networks (VHF?). The UHF > channels were added gradually and now we also get the southern New > Hampshire feed for the networks. This is nice because we really live > closer to the NH border than to Boston. Ray is obsessed with watching > the weather reports and he gets a much more accurate prediction (not > quite so far from wrong) from NH. I shouldn't pick on him. He works > outdoors and weather is really a key thing for him. > > The point of all that is that, much like the basic service, these > add-ons were provided as they became available with no increase in the > fee. I really like that part :-) > > Rita L. Thanks for your input! I just got off the phone making preliminary arrangements. After consulting with DirecTV and Alan, we decided an extra $5 per month was well worth the change. No more A/B switching and since I had a promo card we get a free upgrade of equipment. That should be a couple less cables in the snake pit. Looking forward to less fuzz, Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 19:56:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P0uP6q022329 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:56:25 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4A3001E600BD; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:53:49 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B6DF1E60086 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:53:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1D42C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:46:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14840771 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:46:53 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9P0krG24580 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:46:53 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-175.inebraska.com [206.222.202.175]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9P0koth021748 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:46:51 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001f01c39a91$6a782520$afcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023214922.00bb3f70@pop.gwi.net> <002001c399dc$040fb920$afcadece@0018079268> <3F9900C7.80695264@maynor.net> <003f01c39a4b$feed5fe0$afcadece@0018079268> <3F99B2C4.FF8892D5@maynor.net> <003101c39a87$bc065560$afcadece@0018079268> <3F99C356.69196215@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Indians and Casinos [att: clo] Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:46:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I am downright flabbergasted -- as in beyond words -- at your statement > that you can't imagine two churches much more different. I'm not sure > that I can think of any two denominations any more alike. > > Where are you, Clo? We need your input. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) We didn't have any Episcopal churches in our community, so it was years after I left there that I attended a few E. services. Although it was said not to be a high church I visited, I found it all very formal and full of ritual, by comparison. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 20:07:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P17D6q022420 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:07:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6145B1E600BD; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:04:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32D0F1E6009A for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:04:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1D439@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:57:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14840958 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:57:41 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9P0veG25360 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:57:40 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.58]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031025005735.MRGP1852.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:57:35 -0400 Message-ID: <3F99CA7E.5C1D3133@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:57:34 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos References: <3F98255C.BF3B90ED@maynor.net> <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <3F988D4B.6F9E8413@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024074207.00b27f20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024141013.00bb0958@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024202727.00bad840@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Natalie, have you given up on Patricia Cornwell? I just started her latest > Scarpetta novel, Blowfly. It's pretty good. The novel starts out in > Knoxville. Scarpetta has moved to Florida and it looks like she will be > working the novel's case in Baton Rouge. No, I have definitely not given up on PC! I always look for new books by her when I'm perusing shelves in bookstores or grocery stores or airports or wherever. I do remember being a little bit down on her when I read the book that had the cat communicating with the bank building. I can't remember which one that was. But I did not toss her out and am always on the alert for a new book by her (when it's in paperback). Where in Florida has she moved? Her mother lived in Miami, iirc. Did she move there? No, that wasn't her mother, was it? It was her no-good sister, Lucy's mother. But Kay grew up in Miami, didn't she? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 20:09:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P19S6q022427 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:09:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6623B1E600CA; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:06:52 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 309511E600BD for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:06:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1D440@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:59:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14841046 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:59:56 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9P0xuG25579 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:59:56 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.58]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031025005951.MSDA1852.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:59:51 -0400 Message-ID: <3F99CB06.C685544D@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:59:50 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: my pet References: <20031024201846.24196.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024203040.00bc2eb8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > I was very relieved when he wasn't voted off. I even shouted out "YES!" > when it was the woman instead of our Rupert. I think I also shouted. I was happy that that back-stabbing woman went instead of Rupert. Rupert is wonderful. I think this time I will probably watch the reunion show at the end. I'm curious about whether the boy-scout woman will show up in her boy-scout suit. I'm glad she was voted off. She was getting on my nerves. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 20:14:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P1EH6q022474 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:14:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 06F371E6009A; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:11:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD3051E60084 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:11:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1D45B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:04:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14841207 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:04:45 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9P14iG25980 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:04:44 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.58]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031025010439.MUFN1852.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:04:39 -0400 Message-ID: <3F99CC26.53041495@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:04:38 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos References: <3F99A08B.8060402@swbell.net> <004001c39a88$e278c060$afcadece@0018079268> <3F99C5F0.7010308@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > Duh. Of course I'm being snotty. You don't approve of > gambling, see that it penalizes the poor, but you are trying > to make money off it. That's just incredibly cynical. > Especially a week after saying how idealistic people from > Nebraska are. Can you spell R-e-p-u-b-l-i-c-a-n? Yes, I'm stereotyping. But it *is* kind of funny when the Republican stereotype pops up in real life. And this (doing upside-down quoting now): > > That generation apparently used up all their moral reasoning > >>abilities during the Great War when they all rushed off to > >>serve their country. > >> > > > > Rita, are you talking about me or are > > you talking about the generation I was > > born into? Whichever, your statement > > still has snot hanging all over it. does suggest to me that you are somehow hung up on . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 20:26:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P1QN6q022555 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:26:24 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7F3BB1E600C9; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:23:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E4741E600BD for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:23:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1D47E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:16:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14841556 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:16:51 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9P1GpG26773 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:16:51 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9P1Go8b012236 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:16:50 -0400 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9P1GofC031956 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:16:50 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:16:48 -0400 From: Terry Wild To: Words-L Subject: Butternut squash soup Message-ID: <708730921.1067030208@TWild.uri.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Does anyone have a tried and true recipe for this? I'd love to make some. Thanks, Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 20:28:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P1Su6q022637 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:28:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8FFB01E600BD; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:26:20 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82C6A1E6009A for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:26:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001BC455@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:19:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14841645 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:19:16 -0400 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9P1JFG26961 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:19:15 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9P1JENt007839 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:19:15 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3F99CF51.10602@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:18:09 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos References: <3F99A08B.8060402@swbell.net> <004001c39a88$e278c060$afcadece@0018079268> <3F99C5F0.7010308@swbell.net> <3F99CC26.53041495@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: >>>> >>>Rita, are you talking about me or are >>>you talking about the generation I was >>>born into? Whichever, your statement >>>still has snot hanging all over it. >>> > > does suggest to me that you are somehow hung up on . I think I admitted to as much last time it came up. Yeah, I am interested how generation plays into concepts of self-image. FWIW, most of my relatives fall between The Greatest Generation and Baby Boomers. I can't remember what Steve Karlson calls them. I haven't gotten around to reading the books he recommended to me. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 20:29:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P1TZ6q022643 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:29:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AE4331E600C9; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:26:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80EA41E600BD for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:26:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1D476@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:20:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14841733 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:20:02 -0400 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9P1K2G27089 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:20:02 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9P1K1Nt008470 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:20:01 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3F99CF7F.8060909@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:18:55 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: well well wel References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I rejoice in your oozing kidneys. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 20:30:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P1UU6q022652 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:30:30 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7A2C61E600D2; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:27:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F1071E600CA for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:27:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001BC444@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:20:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14841737 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:20:13 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9P1KCG27102 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:20:13 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.58]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031025012007.FUDY1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:20:07 -0400 Message-ID: <3F99CFC6.57D3FD14@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:20:06 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos [att: clo] References: <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023214922.00bb3f70@pop.gwi.net> <002001c399dc$040fb920$afcadece@0018079268> <3F9900C7.80695264@maynor.net> <003f01c39a4b$feed5fe0$afcadece@0018079268> <3F99B2C4.FF8892D5@maynor.net> <003101c39a87$bc065560$afcadece@0018079268> <3F99C356.69196215@maynor.net> <001f01c39a91$6a782520$afcadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > We didn't have any Episcopal churches in > our community, so it was years after I left > there that I attended a few E. services. > Although it was said not to be a high church > I visited, I found it all very formal and full > of ritual, by comparison. I think I mentioned before going to a high-church Episcopal church in Chicago and that one of the people I was with said it was than his Catholic churches (he was Catholic -- originally from Rhode Island, lived in France, and lived in Geneseo, NY, when I knew him). That Episcopal church we went to in Chicago was indeed than my past experiences. But the other Episcopal churches I've been to in my life have all been very, very much like the Methodist church I grew up in. We had robed preachers, lots of ritual, etc. The main difference that I can think of between my Methodism and the Episcopal church is that the Methodist theology is somewhat looser, which I like. And I think I've mentioned already that I realize that some individual Methodist churches are very Baptisty -- and totally alien to my experience. That's the kind of Methodist church I gathered you were talking about re gambling. My Baptist friends were taught that gambling was a sin, that they shouldn't dance, that they shouldn't go to movies on Sundays, that drinking was a sin, etc. etc. My Methodist ministers found that kind of stuff . I remember sipping sherry at parties while talking to my preacher, dancing in the basement of our church at church-sponsored dances, etc. etc. But, returning to the main topic, I mainly remember that my church's ritual was very close to the ritual of the Episcopal Church. (My mother, btw, always said that if she weren't a Methodist, she'd be an Episcopalian -- that it was the only other denomination she felt comfortable with.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 20:32:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P1Wt6q022698 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:32:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E205F1E600D2; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:30:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B178C1E600BD for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:30:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001BC44E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:23:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14841854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:23:22 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9P1NMG27351 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:23:22 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-175.inebraska.com [206.222.202.175]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9P1NIth027840 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:23:20 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <002a01c39a96$828f30e0$afcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3F99A08B.8060402@swbell.net> <004001c39a88$e278c060$afcadece@0018079268> <3F99C5F0.7010308@swbell.net> Subject: Re: Re: Indians and Casinos Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:22:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Doris Markland wrote: > > > Rita: > > > > > >> That generation apparently used up all their moral reasoning > >>abilities during the Great War when they all rushed off to > >>serve their country. > >> > > > > Rita, are you talking about me or are > > you talking about the generation I was > > born into? Whichever, your statement > > still has snot hanging all over it. > > > Duh. Of course I'm being snotty. You don't approve of > gambling, see that it penalizes the poor, but you are trying > to make money off it. That's just incredibly cynical. > Especially a week after saying how idealistic people from > Nebraska are. > I never said at any time that I didn't approve of gambling. My friends would find your statement hilarious. I said I wouldn't care to have a casino in my neighborhood, or my state. I'm even sorry they have a lottery here finally, because of the way the state is using the funds they receive. Illegal drugs penalize the poor also, but I don't abstain from drugs for that reason. My not gambling will not in any way cause any other person to not gamble, nor will the casino close because I don't come in there once in a while. I don't remember either saying that Nebraskans are idealistic, although that must have been your interpetation, whatever I said. That's okay though. In general I'd say they're a pretty good sort and I don't run into too many who are sarcastic and bitter about life. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 20:38:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P1cJ6q022734 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:38:19 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EE8E81E60091; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:35:42 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C059B1E60086 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:35:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1D49A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:28:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14842077 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:28:46 -0400 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9P1SkG27758 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:28:46 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9P1SiYY012746 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:28:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F99D18A.308@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:27:38 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Rita's challenge References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clostran@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU wrote: > Take away context or take away language - the results are the > same. Kids need to be able to make sense of the world. Of > course they're good babies! They're good men and women, too > - it's just that the realm they know enough about to be > good in is so impoverished, and the results are so disastrous! I believe most of them will mature into good men and women. It's just getting them there. > What will the kids do attentively? Will they sing? Will > they paint? Will they build? Eat? I interpreted one year for > an immersion French class that was taught through recipes, > which were then served and eaten restaurant style. To get > to the food, you had to jump through the learning hoop. It > was both popular and effective, but of course it's luck of > the draw whether desperately unorthodox measures will pan > out. And who can take chances, when the achievement tests > and competency scales loom over everyone's shoulders? My kids will all take the state achievement test in communication skills next year -- but I can't paint and eat, etc. I am teaching traditional college prep English this year, so my babies have to write essays until their eyes cross (and I have to grade them until my eyeballs fall out :)). I did resort to singing "On Top of Spaghetti" this week in a desperate bid to get them to learn prepositional phrases, though. Why do the Unit (Vice) Principals always come looking for one of my kids when I'm doing something unorthodox? Darned if it didn't work, though. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 20:41:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P1ft6q022762 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:41:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 118671E600BD; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:39:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4C3D1E6009A for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:39:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1D4B0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:32:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14842165 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:32:17 -0400 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9P1WHG28044 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:32:17 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9P1WGYY014678 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:32:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F99D25E.1000709@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:31:10 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos [att: clo] References: <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023214922.00bb3f70@pop.gwi.net> <002001c399dc$040fb920$afcadece@0018079268> <3F9900C7.80695264@maynor.net> <003f01c39a4b$feed5fe0$afcadece@0018079268> <3F99B2C4.FF8892D5@maynor.net> <003101c39a87$bc065560$afcadece@0018079268> <3F99C356.69196215@maynor.net> <001f01c39a91$6a782520$afcadece@0018079268> <3F99CFC6.57D3FD14@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > We had robed preachers, lots of ritual, etc. The main difference that I > can think of between my Methodism and the Episcopal church is that the > Methodist theology is somewhat looser, which I like. I don't think you can get much looser than Episcopal theology these days. > And I think I've mentioned already that I realize that some individual > Methodist churches are very Baptisty -- and totally alien to my > experience. That's the kind of Methodist church I gathered you were > talking about re gambling. My Baptist friends were taught that gambling > was a sin, that they shouldn't dance, that they shouldn't go to movies > on Sundays, that drinking was a sin, etc. etc. My Methodist ministers > found that kind of stuff . I remember sipping sherry at > parties while talking to my preacher, dancing in the basement of our > church at church-sponsored dances, etc. etc. But, returning to the > main topic, I mainly remember that my church's ritual was very close to > the ritual of the Episcopal Church. (My mother, btw, always said that > if she weren't a Methodist, she'd be an Episcopalian -- that it was the > only other denomination she felt comfortable with.) Somebody mentioned to me that the Methodist churches around here are dropping the "Methodist" from their church signs so people will think they're non-denominational. He also mentioned some enormous Methodist church near Chicago -- Willowbrook? -- that believed heavily in discernment. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 20:42:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P1gX6q022776 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:42:33 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7F0161E600D8; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:39:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D2A41E600CA for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:39:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1D4A3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:33:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14842183 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:33:01 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9P1X1G28107 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:33:01 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.58]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031025013255.FXRT1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:32:55 -0400 Message-ID: <3F99D2C6.979259DE@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:32:54 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos References: <3F99A08B.8060402@swbell.net> <004001c39a88$e278c060$afcadece@0018079268> <3F99C5F0.7010308@swbell.net> <3F99CC26.53041495@maynor.net> <3F99CF51.10602@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > FWIW, most of my relatives fall between The Greatest > Generation and Baby Boomers. I can't remember what Steve > Karlson calls them. I haven't gotten around to reading the > books he recommended to me. I'm one. I don't know that we have a name. I'm just a couple of years pre Baby Boomers. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 20:53:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P1ra6q022881 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:53:36 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A4D391E600D2; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:50:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766DE1E600BD for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:50:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1D4EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:44:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14842644 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:44:03 -0400 Received: from web20501.mail.yahoo.com (web20501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.136]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9P1i3G29398 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:44:03 -0400 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:44:02 PDT Message-ID: <20031025014402.44644.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:44:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Katzen Report To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F99ABAE.65901303@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I > can imagine that once inside the house, Ugly might > hide in another room > when I'm there, making me worry about whether he was > alive and well. Have a roll in a catnip patch. Or a light spritzing with smoked salmon oil might do the trick. I'm having computer problems, have to go cut a switch. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 21:01:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P21O6q022962 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:01:24 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2523C1E600D2; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:58:48 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA2D31E600C9 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:58:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1D4EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:51:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14842808 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:51:51 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9P1ppG29877 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:51:51 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.58]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031025015145.EIAF1780.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:51:45 -0400 Message-ID: <3F99D730.7D4E96F6@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:51:44 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos [att: clo] References: <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023214922.00bb3f70@pop.gwi.net> <002001c399dc$040fb920$afcadece@0018079268> <3F9900C7.80695264@maynor.net> <003f01c39a4b$feed5fe0$afcadece@0018079268> <3F99B2C4.FF8892D5@maynor.net> <003101c39a87$bc065560$afcadece@0018079268> <3F99C356.69196215@maynor.net> <001f01c39a91$6a782520$afcadece@0018079268> <3F99CFC6.57D3FD14@maynor.net> <3F99D25E.1000709@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > > We had robed preachers, lots of ritual, etc. The main difference that I > > can think of between my Methodism and the Episcopal church is that the > > Methodist theology is somewhat looser, which I like. > > I don't think you can get much looser than Episcopal theology > these days. I'm not on top of the current theologies, but my feeling has always (or for a long time) been that the Episcopal Church was a bit more dogmatic than the Methodist Church. As I said earlier, most of the ritual was identical ("was" in that I don't go to either one now -- I quit going when my vocal cords died). But there were a few bits of Episcopalianism that at times suggested to me a more view than my Methodist view. Sorry to be so vague. I'm tired and mushy-brained tonight. > Somebody mentioned to me that the Methodist churches around > here are dropping the "Methodist" from their church signs so > people will think they're non-denominational. He also > mentioned some enormous Methodist church near Chicago -- > Willowbrook? -- that believed heavily in discernment. I haven't heard anything about either of the above. But I do not claim to be tuned in to Methodism, even though I give that as my religion if asked -- and do so because I like Methodism and have always felt in synch with it. I would have no qualms whatsoever about giving "atheist" if that's what I was but that isn't what I am. I am a Methodist, which happens to be one of the denominations against the recent U.S. jihad. If it hadn't been, I would have yanked my Methodist membership. As I think I reported earlier, my closest religious match is with Unitarian Universalist. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 21:03:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P23A6q022993 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:03:10 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 551601E600CA; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:00:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26A951E600BD for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:00:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1D4F3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:53:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14842857 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:53:38 -0400 Received: from web20513.mail.yahoo.com (web20513.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9P1rbG30004 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:53:37 -0400 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20513.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:53:36 PDT Message-ID: <20031025015336.51181.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:53:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > The Great War was WWI. > > > It's that groupie Brokaw's "Greatest Generation" > that apparently used up all their moral reasoning > rushing off to serve in the next one. What has become of all those seething, patriotic emotions that arise in the breasts of idealistic young men these days? Or not? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 21:06:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P2636q023030 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:06:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4334E1E600DC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:03:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 156E61E600D8 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:03:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1D502@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:56:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14842885 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:56:31 -0400 Received: from web20501.mail.yahoo.com (web20501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.136]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9P1uUG30171 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:56:31 -0400 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:56:30 PDT Message-ID: <20031025015630.46553.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:56:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: well well wel To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU So now I'm spending a few days in > the hospital with a > drain hanging out of my kidney and taking strong > antibiotics. It's a darn > sight better outcome than I was afraid of. Thanks to > everyone for all the > positive energy and thoughts. Sincere best wishes. That's great news, in its own way. Get back on your feet soon. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 21:11:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P2BZ6q023109 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:11:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 99EDE1E600DC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:07:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B1D41E600D8 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:07:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1D4EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:00:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14842965 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:00:22 -0400 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9P20MG30599 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:00:22 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.c6.23f393ff (25914) for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:00:15 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:00:15 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] well well wel To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/24/2003 6:04:37 PM Central Daylight Time, toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM writes: << I'm humming that phrase "well well well" because I'm getting better. When they stuck the needle in my kidney yesterday, they pulled out a large amount of pus. >> Glad it's only an infection; time to take it easy and let other people pamper you. Evelyn From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 21:11:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P2BZ6q023112 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:11:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 87F461E600E3; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:08:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59FB11E600D8 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:08:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1D4FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:01:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14842969 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:01:05 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9P215G30683 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:01:05 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-175.inebraska.com [206.222.202.175]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9P20vth003806 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:01:03 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <002501c39a9b$c514f800$afcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023214922.00bb3f70@pop.gwi.net> <002001c399dc$040fb920$afcadece@0018079268> <3F9900C7.80695264@maynor.net> <003f01c39a4b$feed5fe0$afcadece@0018079268> <3F99B2C4.FF8892D5@maynor.net> <003101c39a87$bc065560$afcadece@0018079268> <3F99C356.69196215@maynor.net> <001f01c39a91$6a782520$afcadece@0018079268> <3F99CFC6.57D3FD14@maynor.net> <3F99D25E.1000709@swbell.net> Subject: Re: Re: Indians and Casinos [att: clo] Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:00:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita: denominational. He also > mentioned some enormous Methodist church near Chicago -- > Willowbrook? -- that believed heavily in discernment. What does that mean . . to believe in discernment? I mean, I know the word in general, but specifically in church matters what does it mean? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 21:11:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P2BZ6q023113 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:11:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 86A6A1E600D2; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:08:20 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5542E1E600F5 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:08:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1D50A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:01:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14842975 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:01:24 -0400 Received: from web20513.mail.yahoo.com (web20513.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9P21OG30709 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:01:24 -0400 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20513.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:01:23 PDT Message-ID: <20031025020123.52479.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:01:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Also, when the legislature legalized this form > of , instead of forming a Nevada-style > gaming board to do all the necessary work, they > just assigned the task to the state police, > without doing anything to fund the extra work. > > All in all, it's a real piece of work, as they say. How in the world can they expect the state police to handle that mess? All of the SOP's would be structured differently; cops are not CPA's. With no funding for training, this has the makings of a farce. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 21:13:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P2Dc6q023195 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:13:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 86EF91E600C9; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:11:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58D2F1E600AB for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:11:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1D505@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:04:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14843086 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:04:05 -0400 Received: from web20509.mail.yahoo.com (web20509.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.144]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9P245G30966 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:04:05 -0400 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20509.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:04:04 PDT Message-ID: <20031025020404.89003.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:04:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: The White Dog is Safe! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F99B22E.FE46DCA5@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Now you need a mystery deserving of your talents. > > Well, I've got the key to the cat house with who > knows what mysteries > hidden there. Shall I snoop around in search of > mysteries and their > solutions? By all means. Just don't let the cats know. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 21:18:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P2Ij6q023387 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:18:46 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3AEB41E600BA; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:16:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B041E600AB for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:16:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1D51C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:09:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14843203 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:09:13 -0400 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9P29CG31240 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:09:12 -0400 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9P29BrI022632 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:09:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F99DB03.5060901@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:08:03 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos [att: clo] References: <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023214922.00bb3f70@pop.gwi.net> <002001c399dc$040fb920$afcadece@0018079268> <3F9900C7.80695264@maynor.net> <003f01c39a4b$feed5fe0$afcadece@0018079268> <3F99B2C4.FF8892D5@maynor.net> <003101c39a87$bc065560$afcadece@0018079268> <3F99C356.69196215@maynor.net> <001f01c39a91$6a782520$afcadece@0018079268> <3F99CFC6.57D3FD14@maynor.net> <3F99D25E.1000709@swbell.net> <002501c39a9b$c514f800$afcadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > Rita: > denominational. He also > >>mentioned some enormous Methodist church near Chicago -- >>Willowbrook? -- that believed heavily in discernment. >> > > What does that mean . . to believe in > discernment? I mean, I know the word > in general, but specifically in church > matters what does it mean? It means that the church elders (men) discern what your gifts of the spirit might be (from I Corinthians 13, 14 I think), and then assign you to your "work" in the church accordingly. So if they think your "gift" is accounting, you're on the fiscal committee -- and you don't have a choice in turning that assignment down. FWIW, I think Paul encouraged self-discernment. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 21:21:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P2LI6q023406 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:21:18 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3F15D1E600BE; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:18:42 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DBB91E60088 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:18:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001BC4F7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:11:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14843352 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:11:46 -0400 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9P2BjG31570 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:11:45 -0400 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:11:45 PDT Message-ID: <20031025021145.3792.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:11:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F99B724.32DB7B8A@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Next thing I'm going > to hear is that > Tushar and Karen were at the harness races at the > Starkville horse park. And they finished win and show respectively! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 21:25:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P2Po6q023465 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:25:50 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D2B141E600D2; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:23:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E7591E600CA for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:23:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1D51D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:16:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14843484 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:16:17 -0400 Received: from web20512.mail.yahoo.com (web20512.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9P2GHG32295 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:16:17 -0400 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20512.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:16:16 PDT Message-ID: <20031025021616.19314.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:16:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: my pet To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F99BD28.9CB83E5B@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > You've been given it by the hotel or by somebody > else? What are you > feeding it? Are you having intercourse with it? Oh, please. No mental images. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 21:27:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P2Ri6q023497 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:27:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D8D6B1E6008D; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:25:07 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA4B61E60088 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:25:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001BC51E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:18:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14843527 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:17:29 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9P2HSG32462 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:17:28 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-175.inebraska.com [206.222.202.175]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9P2HPth028580 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:17:26 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000401c39a9e$11a5e1a0$afcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031023214922.00bb3f70@pop.gwi.net> <002001c399dc$040fb920$afcadece@0018079268> <3F9900C7.80695264@maynor.net> <003f01c39a4b$feed5fe0$afcadece@0018079268> <3F99B2C4.FF8892D5@maynor.net> <003101c39a87$bc065560$afcadece@0018079268> <3F99C356.69196215@maynor.net> <001f01c39a91$6a782520$afcadece@0018079268> <3F99CFC6.57D3FD14@maynor.net> <3F99D25E.1000709@swbell.net> <002501c39a9b$c514f800$afcadece@0018079268> <3F99DB03.5060901@swbell.net> Subject: Re: Re: Indians and Casinos [att: clo] Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:16:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Doris Markland wrote: > > > Rita: > > denominational. He also > > > >>mentioned some enormous Methodist church near Chicago -- > >>Willowbrook? -- that believed heavily in discernment. > >> > > > > What does that mean . . to believe in > > discernment? I mean, I know the word > > in general, but specifically in church > > matters what does it mean? > > > It means that the church elders (men) discern what your gifts > of the spirit might be (from I Corinthians 13, 14 I think), > and then assign you to your "work" in the church > accordingly. So if they think your "gift" is accounting, > you're on the fiscal committee -- and you don't have a > choice in turning that assignment down. FWIW, I think Paul > encouraged self-discernment. > > > > -- > Rita Rouvalis Chapman I see. Thanks. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 21:28:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P2S66q023500 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:28:06 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 706BD1E600D7; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:25:29 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FD691E60088 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:25:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1D525@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:18:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14843562 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:18:33 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9P2IXG32530 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:18:33 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-175.inebraska.com [206.222.202.175]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9P2ITth000178 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:18:31 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000d01c39a9e$38471a40$afcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031025021145.3792.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: Indians and Casinos Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:18:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Next thing I'm going > > to hear is that > > Tushar and Karen were at the harness races at the > > Starkville horse park. What has happened to those two? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 21:28:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P2Su6q023503 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:28:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6B6611E600D8; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:26:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C3BA1E600D7 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:26:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1D541@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:19:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14843572 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:19:23 -0400 Received: from web20506.mail.yahoo.com (web20506.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9P2JNG32565 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:19:23 -0400 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:19:22 PDT Message-ID: <20031025021922.31015.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:19:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: my pet To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F99BE90.1B6D7585@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > It was sad when Balboa died on the Drake island. > Can y'all believe how > close Rupert came to being voted off last night? > It's true that he's a > threat, of course. > -- Natalie Who is Balboa? You mean, they're actually being killed off, now? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 21:35:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P2ZA6q023542 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:35:10 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 328D51E600CA; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:32:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F41DC1E6008D for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:32:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1D549@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:25:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14843688 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:25:38 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law9-oe54.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.47]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9P2PbG00551 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:25:37 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:25:32 -0700 Received: from 199.174.1.115 by law9-oe54.law9.hotmail.com with DAV; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 02:25:32 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [199.174.1.115] X-Originating-Email: [amyb_short@hotmail.com] From: "Amy Burns Short" To: Subject: Re: Butternut squash soup Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:25:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2003 02:25:32.0356 (UTC) FILETIME=[43BEC840:01C39A9F] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Does anyone have a tried and true recipe for this? I'd love to make some. >Thanks, Terry Ah, we're cloning. I have a voluptuous butternut squash beckoning for *something*. I was thinking of perhaps halving it, stuffing it with some sausage and baking it. Maybe tomorrow. AS From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 22:29:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P3Tp6q024096 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:29:51 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9656A1E600E3; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:27:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67C171E600D8 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:27:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1D7FF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:20:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14849699 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:20:18 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9P3KEG07000 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:20:18 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-175.inebraska.com [206.222.202.175]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9P3KAth005264 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:20:12 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000901c39aa6$d59d2480$afcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: Butternut squash soup Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:19:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amy Burns Short" To: Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 9:25 PM Subject: Re: Butternut squash soup > >Does anyone have a tried and true recipe for this? I'd love to make some. > > > >Thanks, Terry > > Ah, we're cloning. I have a voluptuous butternut squash beckoning for > *something*. I was thinking of perhaps halving it, stuffing it with some > sausage and baking it. Maybe tomorrow. > > AS > I like it baked, with some butter and brown sugar over it. Sometimes, maybe some fresh nutmeg. But I don't like squash soup. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 22:50:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P3oA6q024358 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:50:10 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CF0E51E60095; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:47:32 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A154B1E6008B for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:47:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1D854@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:40:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14850236 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:40:36 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9P3eaG08351 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:40:36 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h9P3eYDU016304 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 05:40:34 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h9P3eYDP016302 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 05:40:34 +0200 Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 05:40:33 +0200 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pup in the woods Message-ID: <20031025034033.GA16269@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <40.36239fee.2ccaf2f0@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <40.36239fee.2ccaf2f0@aol.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = I suddenly remember the word "wentelteef". Do you know what it is? = Theo French toast! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 23:50:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P4oW6q024748 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:50:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2B3481E600D8; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:47:55 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED80C1E60095 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:47:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1DA99@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 0:40:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14854428 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:40:59 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9P4ewG14225 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:40:58 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001BCA37@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 0:40:58 -0400 Message-Id: <200310250440.h9P4ewG14225@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:40:58 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:01:55 -0400, Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote: >> recommendationsto Maine. Of course, there is a conflict of >> interest. There are no >> casinos in Massachusetts. Maine's casino would largely draw from >> Mass,taking customers away from Connecticut. > >No casinos in Rhode Island or New York either. ?? What about Oneida? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 23:55:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P4to6q024758 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:55:50 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 084261E600DC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:53:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA1EF1E60095 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:53:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1DABD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 0:46:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14854474 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:46:16 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9P4kGG14586 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:46:16 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001BCA37@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 0:46:16 -0400 Message-Id: <200310250446.h9P4kGG14586@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:46:16 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: erratum To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:54:44 -0500, nam gal sips clark wrote: >I double checked, and... > >"In the Hands of the Great Spirit" cites >the Turning Stone Casino in Verona, NY as >a poster child for success, not the Sun, >as I posted earlier. > >It was the newspaper pieces I've been >reading lately that mentioned the Sun >as a success story. > >-- >The editors apologize for this grievous >error, and assure you that the responsible >parties have been disciplined. Harshly. All of upstate NY thanks you for your humility. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 24 23:58:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P4wH6q024861 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:58:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 899811E60099; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:54:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BB711E600D8 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:54:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1DAAC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 0:47:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14854510 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:47:55 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9P4ltG14802 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:47:55 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001BCA3B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 0:47:54 -0400 Message-Id: <200310250447.h9P4ltG14802@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:47:55 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: well well wel To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:04:24 -0500, Anne Toal wrote: >I'm humming that phrase "well well well" because I'm getting better. When >they stuck the needle in my kidney yesterday, they pulled out a large amount >of pus. Which might have been scary if I hadn't first been told I might have >a life threatening illness, but which sounded like the best news in the >world at the time. So now I'm spending a few days in the hospital with a >drain hanging out of my kidney and taking strong antibiotics. It's a darn >sight better outcome than I was afraid of. Thanks to everyone for all the >positive energy and thoughts. > >-aht > Oddly, good news indeed. Congratulations, Anne. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 00:07:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P57s6q024959 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:07:55 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1F5851E600E2; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:05:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1B6E1E600DC for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:05:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1DADB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 0:58:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14854717 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:58:21 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9P4wKG15757 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:58:20 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001BCA57@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 0:58:20 -0400 Message-Id: <200310250458.h9P4wKG15757@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:58:20 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Rita's challenge To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:27:38 -0500, Rita Chapman wrote: >clostran@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU wrote: > > > >> Take away context or take away language - the results are the >> same. Kids need to be able to make sense of the world. Of >> course they're good babies! They're good men and women, too >> - it's just that the realm they know enough about to be >> good in is so impoverished, and the results are so disastrous! > > > I believe most of them will mature into good men and women. >It's just getting them there. > > >> What will the kids do attentively? Will they sing? Will >> they paint? Will they build? Eat? I interpreted one year for >> an immersion French class that was taught through recipes, >> which were then served and eaten restaurant style. To get >> to the food, you had to jump through the learning hoop. It >> was both popular and effective, but of course it's luck of >> the draw whether desperately unorthodox measures will pan >> out. And who can take chances, when the achievement tests >> and competency scales loom over everyone's shoulders? > > > My kids will all take the state achievement test in >communication skills next year -- but I can't paint and eat, >etc. I am teaching traditional college prep English this >year, so my babies have to write essays until their eyes >cross (and I have to grade them until my eyeballs fall out >:)). I did resort to singing "On Top of Spaghetti" this >week in a desperate bid to get them to learn prepositional >phrases, though. Why do the Unit (Vice) Principals always >come looking for one of my kids when I'm doing something >unorthodox? Darned if it didn't work, though. > > YaY for campfire songs! for embarrassing ingenuity. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 00:11:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P5B06q024987 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:11:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8677E1E600E3; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:08:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F801E600E2 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:08:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1DB14@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 1:01:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14855113 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 01:01:26 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9P51QG16486 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 01:01:26 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1DB22@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 1:01:25 -0400 Message-Id: <200310250501.h9P51QG16486@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 01:01:26 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: The White Dog is Safe! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:04:04 -0700, Lynne Weber wrote: >> > Now you need a mystery deserving of your talents. >> >> Well, I've got the key to the cat house with who >> knows what mysteries >> hidden there. Shall I snoop around in search of >> mysteries and their >> solutions? > >By all means. Just don't let the cats know. > > Ahem - the ?!! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 00:18:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P5Im6q025047 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:18:49 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 14C441E600A0; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:16:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA7F41E60099 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:16:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1DB57@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 1:09:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14855470 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 01:09:15 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9P59EG17174 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 01:09:14 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-175.inebraska.com [206.222.202.175]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9P59Ath019497 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:09:12 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000e01c39ab6$1012d1a0$afcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: well well wel Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:08:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I'm humming that phrase "well well well" because I'm getting better. When > they stuck the needle in my kidney yesterday, they pulled out a large amount > of pus. Which might have been scary if I hadn't first been told I might have > a life threatening illness, but which sounded like the best news in the > world at the time. So now I'm spending a few days in the hospital with a > drain hanging out of my kidney and taking strong antibiotics. It's a darn > sight better outcome than I was afraid of. Thanks to everyone for all the > positive energy and thoughts. > > -aht Glad to hear it. Now milk it for all you can. TV, meals in bed, no work, sleep late. Whimper a little if necessary to get TLC or chocolates or backrubs. What hospital are you in? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 01:17:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P6Hc6q025580 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 01:17:39 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BE3B11E600F3; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 01:15:00 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C62E1E600A2 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 01:15:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1DC3F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 2:08:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14857821 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 02:08:04 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f101.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9P684G22532 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 02:08:04 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:07:58 -0700 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 06:07:58 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 02:07:58 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2003 06:07:58.0716 (UTC) FILETIME=[56CBB3C0:01C39ABE] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Theo Groothof > > >>I also noticed that many of the people in that casino looked poor. I > >>find it very, very hard to comprehend that kind of addiction -- how > >>somebody with limited money would choose to spend it on gambling. > > >Because they hope to hit the jackpot and become rich! But if they were >smart >they wouldn't gamble with their meager income of course either. There are really two issues here: 1. Bonnie's comment on compulsive gambling, and 2. Theo's comment that poor people a. hope to grow rich, and b. are not smart because they gamble. Let's set aside the compulsive gambling issue for the moment. There are plenty of theories around addiction, but by its nature addiction isn't grist for logical analysis. On the other hand, I think it's an open question whether poor people who hope to grow rich through chance are irrational. The common wisdom is that they'd be better off using a different strategy, say a combination of prudent marshalling of resources and hard work. But in fact, many rich people got that way through luck (particularly in ancestry). Take a poor or middle class person of, say, 35 years, with a blue or slightly off-white collar job, no college degree, no entrepreneurial spirit, an income that slightly trails expenses, and a slowly growing mountain of debt. If this person's self-assessment is that no matter how hard he or she works, the long hard slog is unlikely to accumulate substantial wealth, is it then irrational for the person to play the lottery or stick quarters in slots? If wealth is a goal, and if a realistic self-assessment suggests that only chance can lead to wealth, and if the level of gambling is small enough that it doesn't threaten the ability to pay for basic necessities, then it could be that looking for a jackpot is rational. It might even make sense to look for gambling opportunities, like lotteries, where the odds are immense but the payoffs huge. _________________________________________________________________ Never get a busy signal because you are always connected with high-speed Internet access. Click here to comparison-shop providers. https://broadband.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 01:26:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P6Qa6q025756 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 01:26:36 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5AEF81E600F0; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 01:23:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D5BD1E600EE for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 01:23:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1DC57@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 2:17:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14858053 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 02:17:02 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f79.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.79]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9P6H1G23306 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 02:17:01 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:16:56 -0700 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 06:16:55 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 02:16:55 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2003 06:16:56.0177 (UTC) FILETIME=[9725BE10:01C39ABF] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: bonniev > >Natalie, have you given up on Patricia Cornwell? I just started her latest >Scarpetta novel, Blowfly. It's pretty good. The novel starts out Pish. Set aside all that lame cornwellian stuff and get with Ian Ranking. _________________________________________________________________ See when your friends are online with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 01:35:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9P6ZC6q025858 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 01:35:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A90001E600EE; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 01:32:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 737AC1E60099 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 01:32:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1DC72@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 2:25:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14858214 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 02:25:38 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f33.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.33]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9P6PcG23763 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 02:25:38 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:25:32 -0700 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 06:25:32 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 02:25:32 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2003 06:25:32.0541 (UTC) FILETIME=[CAECA2D0:01C39AC0] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Oops. Ian Rankin. >From: Marty Rosen >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos >Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 02:16:55 -0400 > >>From: bonniev >> >>Natalie, have you given up on Patricia Cornwell? I just started her >>latest >>Scarpetta novel, Blowfly. It's pretty good. The novel starts out > >Pish. Set aside all that lame cornwellian stuff and get with Ian Ranking. > >_________________________________________________________________ >See when your friends are online with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now >FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com _________________________________________________________________ Cheer a special someone with a fun Halloween eCard from American Greetings! Go to http://www.msn.americangreetings.com/index_msn.pd?source=msne134 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 06:48:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PBmx6q028419 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 06:48:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D6C431E600B9; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 06:46:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4EC21E600B8 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 06:46:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1DE12@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 7:39:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14862255 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 07:39:22 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9PBd7G09505 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 07:39:22 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.200]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031025113902.MUEQ1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 07:39:02 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9A60D5.A8C4ED9C@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 06:39:01 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: my pet References: <20031025021922.31015.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Who is Balboa? You mean, they're actually being > killed off, now? Balboa was a little snake. Though I'm not fond of snakes, I felt sorry for Rupert when he lost his friend Balboa. I didn't catch on to exactly why Balboa died, I might add. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 06:55:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PBtM6q028501 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 06:55:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BF2BC1E600BB; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 06:52:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D9A21E600B5 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 06:52:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1DE3F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 7:45:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14862399 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 07:45:45 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9PBjjG09830 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 07:45:45 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.200]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031025114539.MVCQ1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 07:45:39 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9A6263.88BAF2BB@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 06:45:39 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen wrote: > If wealth is a goal, and if a realistic self-assessment suggests that only > chance can lead to wealth, and if the level of gambling is small enough that > it doesn't threaten the ability to pay for basic necessities, then it could > be that looking for a jackpot is rational. With that third if clause, I think it makes good sense. I thought the poor people we were worrying about were gambling addicts spending huge percents of their incomes on gambling. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 07:18:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PCIU6q028677 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 07:18:30 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 422A11E600B5; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 07:15:50 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 109F81E600F0 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 07:15:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1DE4A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 8:08:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14862767 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 08:08:53 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9PC8rG11090 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 08:08:53 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-175.inebraska.com [206.222.202.175]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9PC8mth020685 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 07:08:51 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001501c39af0$ae5c02c0$afcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: Indians and Casinos Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 07:08:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > If wealth is a goal, and if a realistic self-assessment suggests that only > chance can lead to wealth, and if the level of gambling is small enough that > it doesn't threaten the ability to pay for basic necessities, then it could > be that looking for a jackpot is rational. It might even make sense to look > for gambling opportunities, like lotteries, where the odds are immense but > the payoffs huge. And there's nothing I like to hear more than a story about someone who won bigtime, particularly someone who really needed it. Loved the story of the army guy who recently told his buddies he was going to win the lottery when he came back on leave, and he did. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 07:49:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PCnH6q028853 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 07:49:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8F36D1E60105; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 07:46:36 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60F441E60102 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 07:46:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1DEA7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 8:39:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14863451 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 08:39:39 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9PCddG12905 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 08:39:39 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-154-245.gwi.net [216.195.154.245]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9PCdbGn071593 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 08:39:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031025083909.00b28f18@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 08:39:52 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: my pet In-Reply-To: <3F9A60D5.A8C4ED9C@maynor.net> References: <20031025021922.31015.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Balboa was a little snake. Though I'm not fond of snakes, I felt sorry >for Rupert when he lost his friend Balboa. I didn't catch on to exactly >why Balboa died, I might add. > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Nor did I understand why Balboa died in the night. Perhaps it was because he had no food and not much warmth tied up in that bag. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 07:55:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PCtP6q028897 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 07:55:25 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9C5721E600C3; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 07:52:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DB821E600BB for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 07:52:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001BCE16@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 8:45:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14863614 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 08:45:39 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9PCjdG13326 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 08:45:39 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-154-245.gwi.net [216.195.154.245]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9PCjbAr088930 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 08:45:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031025084021.00b42c48@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 08:41:56 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos In-Reply-To: <3F9A6263.88BAF2BB@maynor.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Marty Rosen wrote: > > If wealth is a goal, and if a realistic self-assessment suggests that only > > chance can lead to wealth, and if the level of gambling is small enough > that > > it doesn't threaten the ability to pay for basic necessities, then it could > > be that looking for a jackpot is rational. > >With that third if clause, I think it makes good sense. I thought the >poor people we were worrying about were gambling addicts spending huge >percents of their incomes on gambling. > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I think Marty's third if clause is a huge if. I had a friend who worked in a convenience store/gas station one winter in Bar Harbor. The people who bought lottery scratch tickets were spending hundreds of dollars a month on them. How can that not threaten the ability to pay for basic necessities? I agree that a many a person in that situation is not going to ever be wealthy, no matter how diligent they are about saving or earning. However, $300 a month can make a big difference in that income group about the comforts of life. A better apartment can be rented. Less fear of having the money to pay for heat and medicine can be attained. But it's boring to plod along, paying the bills, and setting a bit aside for a rainy day. It's more glamorous to scratch that card and dream of a very different life. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 08:16:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PDGD6q029088 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 08:16:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9EEE71E600C4; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 08:13:32 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F8201E600BC for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 08:13:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1DEEF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 9:06:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14864288 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 09:06:36 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9PD6aG15012 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 09:06:36 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1DEFD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 9:06:35 -0400 Message-Id: <200310251306.h9PD6aG15012@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 09:06:35 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 02:07:58 -0400, Marty Rosen wrote: >>From: Theo Groothof >> >> >>I also noticed that many of the people in that casino looked poor. I >> >>find it very, very hard to comprehend that kind of addiction -- how >> >>somebody with limited money would choose to spend it on gambling. >> > >>Because they hope to hit the jackpot and become rich! But if they were >>smart >>they wouldn't gamble with their meager income of course either. > >There are really two issues here: 1. Bonnie's comment on compulsive >gambling, and 2. Theo's comment that poor people a. hope to grow rich, and >b. are not smart because they gamble. > >Let's set aside the compulsive gambling issue for the moment. There are >plenty of theories around addiction, but by its nature addiction isn't grist >for logical analysis. > >On the other hand, I think it's an open question whether poor people who >hope to grow rich through chance are irrational. The common wisdom is that >they'd be better off using a different strategy, say a combination of >prudent marshalling of resources and hard work. But in fact, many rich >people got that way through luck (particularly in ancestry). > >Take a poor or middle class person of, say, 35 years, with a blue or >slightly off-white collar job, no college degree, no entrepreneurial spirit, >an income that slightly trails expenses, and a slowly growing mountain of >debt. If this person's self-assessment is that no matter how hard he or she >works, the long hard slog is unlikely to accumulate substantial wealth, is >it then irrational for the person to play the lottery or stick quarters in >slots? > >If wealth is a goal, and if a realistic self-assessment suggests that only >chance can lead to wealth, and if the level of gambling is small enough that >it doesn't threaten the ability to pay for basic necessities, then it could >be that looking for a jackpot is rational. It might even make sense to look >for gambling opportunities, like lotteries, where the odds are immense but >the payoffs huge. > You make an interesting point, which I hope my friends who are intrigued by gambling will never see. Those with addictive personalities don't need another rationale for wandering closer to the flames! It misses the mark in the case of most people I know of low income who spend time in casinos. They are there because busses take them at low fee to places where they can eat food they can't afford and sleep in hotels they can't afford, for free or very cheap. Their ambition at the table is to offset the small expenses of the vacation. I think that's even less dumb, though I don't see it as more interesting than sitting in front of a tv at home. My personal idea of a fun vacation is different than that, but hey - at least they can socialize on the bus ride! State-run lotteries do seem to catch the attention of people who are feeling somewhat desperate in exactly the way you describe, however. A dollar a week seems small, and accelerates to $5 or $10 weekly, and pretty soon is the amount that would have made the difference when an unexpected bill hits, only nobody is stacking up all the little pink receipts, so they don't know how it's affecting their bottom line. And that's the reason I dislike your theory. It increases the likelihood of disaster in the present for the sake of a not-so-good possibility of being whisked away to a fairy world where problems melt. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 08:18:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PDI76q029125 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 08:18:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 301BC1E60120; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 08:15:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01FB91E60109 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 08:15:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1DF0D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 9:08:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14864323 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 09:08:29 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9PD8TG15175 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 09:08:29 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-154-245.gwi.net [216.195.154.245]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9PD8RGn075145 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 09:08:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031025090814.00b28f18@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 09:08:42 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Oops. Ian Rankin. O.k. Where does one start? I got 2059 hits on Amazon.com. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 09:23:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PEN26q029543 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 09:23:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3F8591E60109; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 09:20:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11B011E60102 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 09:20:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001BCEF8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 10:13:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14865371 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 10:13:24 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9PEDOG18827 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 10:13:24 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.200]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031025141319.OEAD1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 10:13:19 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9A84FE.15EFA3ED@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 09:13:18 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: my pet References: <20031025021922.31015.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031025083909.00b28f18@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Nor did I understand why Balboa died in the night. Perhaps it was because > he had no food and not much warmth tied up in that bag. At first I thought Rupert was saying something about the cold -- as in Balboa died from the cold, but then I realized he was saying that Balboa was cold -- as in dead. Hmm. I can review this if my taping worked. I haven't tried it yet. Die Katzen are still gut, btw. I hope the rain holds off until mid-to-late afternoon so I can combine escorting Ugly into the house with the next feeding/watering time. I went a bit later this morning, getting them ready for the time change. (Ugly would have plenty of shelter if he stays outside, of course, so getting him in isn't really crucial, at least not today. It's tomorrow that the temperature is supposed to plummet. I guess Whatshisname, the outside cat, is used to all kinds of temperatures.) They had two guests today -- a black cat and a white cat. I made sure that the residents ate first, though. If they wanted to serve their leftovers to the guests, that's ok. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 09:25:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PEP26q029641 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 09:25:02 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1626E1E600C7; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 09:21:33 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D08FC1E60102 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 09:21:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1DF6D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 10:14:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14865387 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 10:14:36 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9PEEaG18880 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 10:14:36 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.200]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031025141431.OEJS1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 10:14:31 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9A8546.E3372717@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 09:14:30 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031025084021.00b42c48@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > I think Marty's third if clause is a huge if. I had a friend who worked in > a convenience store/gas station one winter in Bar Harbor. The people who > bought lottery scratch tickets were spending hundreds of dollars a month on > them. How can that not threaten the ability to pay for basic necessities? Don't forget the time Marie got to join Wordslers at a restaurant because she won the lottery. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 09:26:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PEQP6q029654 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 09:26:25 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BF6631E60126; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 09:23:43 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D55B1E60122 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 09:23:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1DF76@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 10:16:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14865464 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 10:16:47 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9PEGlG19069 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 10:16:47 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-154-245.gwi.net [216.195.154.245]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9PEGjGn081863 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 10:16:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031025101620.00b3b9e8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 10:17:00 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: my pet In-Reply-To: <3F9A84FE.15EFA3ED@maynor.net> References: <20031025021922.31015.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031025083909.00b28f18@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >At first I thought Rupert was saying something about the cold -- as in >Balboa died from the cold, but then I realized he was saying that Balboa >was cold -- as in dead. -- Natalie But aren't snakes always cold? They are cold-blooded, I thought. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 09:41:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PEfB6q029730 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 09:41:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4ED8F1E6012A; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 09:38:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 216EA1E60122 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 09:38:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001BCF09@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 10:31:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14865821 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 10:31:33 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9PEVXG19905 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 10:31:33 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-154-245.gwi.net [216.195.154.245]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9PEVUAt011496; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 10:31:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031025102650.00b17d68@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 10:28:20 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: my pet In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031025101620.00b3b9e8@pop.gwi.net> References: <3F9A84FE.15EFA3ED@maynor.net> <20031025021922.31015.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031025083909.00b28f18@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:17 AM 10/25/2003 -0400, bonniev wrote: >But aren't snakes always cold? They are cold-blooded, I thought. They will be within a degree or so of their environment. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 11:05:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PG546q030473 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:05:05 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0B55C1E600F0; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:02:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0D781E600CE for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:02:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1E089@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:55:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14868129 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:55:26 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9PFtQf25702 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:55:26 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.200]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031025155520.GMVB1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:55:20 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9A9CE8.867972B@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 10:55:20 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: my pet [plus aphids and scale] References: <20031025021922.31015.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031025083909.00b28f18@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031025101620.00b3b9e8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > >At first I thought Rupert was saying something about the cold -- as in > >Balboa died from the cold, but then I realized he was saying that Balboa > >was cold -- as in dead. -- Natalie > > But aren't snakes always cold? They are cold-blooded, I thought. That thought flashed through my mind when Rupert said what he did, but then I thought I remembered having read somewhere that that's a myth -- that snakes aren't cold to the touch. I have no intention of conducting personal experiments to find out. Meanwhile, though, I'm into aphids and scale. I had fun at the co-op, where master gardeners and an extension horticulturist are answering questions today. I took a branch from one of my big holly bushes that are turning yellow and a tiny twig from my wonderful little holly-type thing that is supposed to get very tall but remain very skinny. Lots of its branches have been dying. It looks gutted now from my cutting out the dead branches. The kind horticulturist said that the big holly bushes have aphids and the little thing has scale. So I bought a bag of something that starts with an M -- I've forgotten what now -- and tossed it all over both the big bushes and the skinny thing, trying to get it under the leaves, which the horticulturist told me was the thing to do. The smell is disgusting. I changed clothes and am washing the white-dusted ones right now, but the smell is drifting through the windows. Too bad it's not already cold so I would have the windows closes. (Re the weather, the horticulturist and one of the master gardeners said when I asked whether I should wait to apply this stuff since it was supposed to rain today that I should go on and apply it -- that all it needed was two hours and that I probably had that long before the rain comes.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 12:35:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PHZ06q031427 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 12:35:00 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1888D1E60137; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 12:32:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA2741E6012F for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 12:32:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1E177@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:25:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14870461 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:25:21 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f96.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.96]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9PHPLf31700 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:25:21 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 10:25:15 -0700 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 17:25:14 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:25:14 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2003 17:25:15.0598 (UTC) FILETIME=[F443CEE0:01C39B1C] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: bonniev O.k. Where does one start? I got 2059 hits on Amazon.com. What you want are the Inspector Rebus novels, which begin with Knots and Crosses, Hide and Seek, and Tooth and Nail. I see there are some omnbus collections that bring together the first three and second three books in the series. Whether that format is to your taste, I don't know. I prefer the simple paperback with one book for volume. Like any good detective writer, Rankin has his own website: www.ianrankin.net. The first books in the series are fairly straightforward, but you'll find that unlike Cornwell, who grows duller and less interesting volume by wretched volume, Rankin's books grow increasingly rich. Though they're not at the intellectually commanding level of the Aubrey/Maturin books, the Rebus books are as close to showing that kind of sustained character development as anything I've come across in crime fiction. _________________________________________________________________ Cheer a special someone with a fun Halloween eCard from American Greetings! Go to http://www.msn.americangreetings.com/index_msn.pd?source=msne134 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 12:45:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PHje6q031476 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 12:45:40 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B42731E60139; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 12:42:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 824C81E60134 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 12:42:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1E18B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:36:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14870836 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:36:01 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9PHa0f32738 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:36:00 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.200]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031025173555.LRBK1780.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:35:55 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9AB47B.25DEEED8@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 12:35:55 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: The Aphid/Scale Man Predicted Correctly Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It's been two hours since I applied the white dusty stuff, and the rain has not yet come. So I guess the poor little aphis and scales are being wiped out. That's good. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 12:54:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PHsT6q031602 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 12:54:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9071E1E60139; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 12:51:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 622CF1E60137 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 12:51:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1E198@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:44:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14871087 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:44:50 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9PHinf00917 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:44:49 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-154-245.gwi.net [216.195.154.245]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9PHimAr038308 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:44:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031025134409.00b45810@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:45:03 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >What you want are the Inspector Rebus novels, which begin with Knots and >Crosses, Hide and Seek, and Tooth and Nail. Thanks. This sounds like the sort of thing to check out The Big Chicken Barn for. I still have a credit with them from the last bunch of books I sold. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 13:00:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PI0g6q031689 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:00:42 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C22281E600CF; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 12:57:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 938881E600CC for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 12:57:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1E1A7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:51:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14871216 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:51:03 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9PHp2f01314 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:51:03 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.200]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031025175057.IPWU1849.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:50:57 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9AB801.150607D6@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 12:50:57 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: My Goodness Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I think the electric teevee lies. I just turned it on to see how far behind we might be by now in today's fb game, and my screen says we're ahead 17-0. We're playing Kentucky, not exactly a , but for us to be ahead of anybody this year is pretty amazing. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 13:17:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PIH56q031878 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:17:05 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A41B61E600DA; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:14:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 765881E600D6 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:14:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1E1F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:07:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14871821 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:07:26 -0400 Received: from web20509.mail.yahoo.com (web20509.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.144]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9PI7Pf02664 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:07:25 -0400 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20509.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:07:25 PDT Message-ID: <20031025180725.78923.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:07:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: my pet To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F9A60D5.A8C4ED9C@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Balboa was a little snake. Though I'm not fond of > snakes, I felt sorry > for Rupert when he lost his friend Balboa. I didn't > catch on to exactly > why Balboa died, I might add. Overeating? That would save money, 'cause he stuffed himself. Sorry. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 13:26:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PIQi6q031976 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:26:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D35561E6013B; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:24:01 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BDC01E60139 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:24:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1E214@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:17:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14872071 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:17:05 -0400 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9PIH4f03353 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:17:05 -0400 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:17:03 PDT Message-ID: <20031025181704.32663.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:17:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200310251306.h9PD6aG15012@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It increases the likelihood of disaster in > the present for the sake > of a not-so-good possibility of being whisked away > to a fairy world where > problems melt. It seems to me that all addictions are the results of those wished for "fairy worlds". Until near the end of the rope, when the wisher is too far gone to care. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 13:29:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PIT66q031984 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:29:06 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C30231E6013B; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:26:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A621E60139 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:26:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1E1FF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:19:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14872125 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:19:27 -0400 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9PIJQf03483 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:19:27 -0400 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:19:26 PDT Message-ID: <20031025181926.68654.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:19:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: my pet To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F9A84FE.15EFA3ED@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > They had two guests today -- a black cat and a white > cat. I made sure > that the residents ate first, though. If they > wanted to serve their > leftovers to the guests, that's ok. Obviously, the resident cats have spread the word that you are a pushover. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 13:30:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PIU86q031988 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:30:08 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E699A1E6013B; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:27:25 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B85BB1E600DB for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:27:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1E200@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:20:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14872153 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:20:29 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9PIKTf03594 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:20:29 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-154-245.gwi.net [216.195.154.245]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9PIKRAr041884 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:20:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031025141952.00b8cab8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:20:43 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos In-Reply-To: <20031025181704.32663.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> References: <200310251306.h9PD6aG15012@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >It seems to me that all addictions are the results of >those wished for "fairy worlds". Until near the end >of the rope, when the wisher is too far gone to care. So would that mean that cynical people, who know that there is no fairy world, are least likely to have an addictive personality?? bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 13:31:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PIVV6q032012 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:31:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9AEEA1E60144; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:28:48 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D28F1E60140 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:28:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1E21C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:21:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14872175 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:21:51 -0400 Received: from web20511.mail.yahoo.com (web20511.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.150]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9PILpf03674 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:21:51 -0400 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20511.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:21:50 PDT Message-ID: <20031025182150.22967.qmail@web20511.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:21:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: my pet To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031025101620.00b3b9e8@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > But aren't snakes always cold? They are > cold-blooded, I thought. Yes, their body temperatures change to "match" the temperature of the air surrounding them. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 13:38:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PIcr6q032122 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:38:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CDBD21E600D9; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:36:10 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 968D51E600D0 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:36:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001BD1D6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:29:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14872396 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:29:14 -0400 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9PITDf04176 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:29:13 -0400 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:29:13 PDT Message-ID: <20031025182913.34178.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:29:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031025141952.00b8cab8@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > So would that mean that cynical people, who know > that there is no fairy > world, are least likely to have an addictive > personality?? I don't think so. Their knowledge that any means they use to employ an "adjustment" is artificial, does not necessarily mean they won't make the attempt. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 13:52:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PIqE6q032216 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:52:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 36BB31E60137; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:49:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2C181E600DF for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:49:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1E245@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:42:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14872740 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:42:34 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9PIgYf04895 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:42:34 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-175.inebraska.com [206.222.202.175]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9PIgVth015828 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:42:32 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000401c39b27$b079ada0$afcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031025181704.32663.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: Indians and Casinos Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:42:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > It increases the likelihood of disaster in > > the present for the sake > > of a not-so-good possibility of being whisked away > > to a fairy world where > > problems melt. > > It seems to me that all addictions are the results of > those wished for "fairy worlds". Until near the end > of the rope, when the wisher is too far gone to care. I'm not up on this subject, but is there not also sometimes a physical or chemical element to some addictions? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 13:54:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PIs16q032221 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:54:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C6B041E60139; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:51:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94EB81E60134 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:51:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1E253@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:44:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14872766 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:44:22 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9PIiLf04971 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:44:22 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.200]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031025184416.RBVL1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:44:16 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9AC480.A7053BFC@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:44:16 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: my pet References: <20031025181926.68654.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Obviously, the resident cats have spread the word that > you are a pushover. It will be fun to wave at all these new animal friends when passing on walks. Meanwhile, I had left the tv running in the other room and suddenly realized that it might be significant that I was hearing lots of cheering -- negatively significant since the game is there, not here. Sure enough, I went back in there and saw that we're rapidly blowing it. What was 17-0 is now 17-14 -- and I hear a bunch more cheering right now, meaning that it has quite likely moved on from there. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 13:57:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PIvL6q032250 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:57:21 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 356361E60139; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:54:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 021101E60137 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:54:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1E23E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:47:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14872811 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:47:41 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9PIlff05126 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:47:41 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.200]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031025184736.RCRH1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:47:36 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9AC547.6F9A34A4@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:47:35 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Clocks Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Reminder for the USAers: clock change. I just did it. Hmm. If I had changed my clocks right after applying the aphid/scale-fighter, would that mean that it would need to be three hours before rain? It still hasn't rained, but the skies are looking darker. In another couple of hours I'll go try to get Ugly inside. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 14:19:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PJJQ6q032503 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:19:26 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E79F01E600DF; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:16:42 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B66571E600D0 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:16:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1E28C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 15:09:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14873311 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 15:09:46 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9PJ9kf06363 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 15:09:46 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-154-245.gwi.net [216.195.154.245]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9PJ9hAt047390; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 15:09:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031025150700.00b2de90@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 15:09:41 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: my pet In-Reply-To: <3F9AC480.A7053BFC@maynor.net> References: <20031025181926.68654.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:44 PM 10/25/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Meanwhile, I had left the tv running in the other room and suddenly >realized that it might be significant that I was hearing lots of >cheering -- negatively significant since the game is there, not here. >Sure enough, I went back in there and saw that we're rapidly blowing >it. What was 17-0 is now 17-14 -- and I hear a bunch more cheering >right now, meaning that it has quite likely moved on from there. Yes, it's now 21-17 KY. And Wisconsin has lost to Northwestern, which is akin to the Panzer Division losing to the Polish cavalry. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 14:37:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PJb16q032641 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:37:01 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D4E7E1E60144; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:34:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3B7B1E600DD for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:34:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1E295@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 15:27:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14873699 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 15:27:21 -0400 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9PJRKf07439 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 15:27:20 -0400 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 12:27:20 PDT Message-ID: <20031025192720.1575.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 12:27:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <000401c39b27$b079ada0$afcadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I'm not up on this subject, but is there > not also sometimes a physical or chemical > element to some addictions? Yes, that's when you ARE addicted - when the body cannot function without the presence of substances. But I have always believed that the psychological and emotional dependence comes first, the resulting euphoria is to some extent successful, and then the body becomes demanding. Here I am speaking of substance addiction only. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 14:39:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PJdZ6q032661 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:39:35 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F28611E600E5; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:36:51 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C08DA1E600D0 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:36:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1E2BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 15:29:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14873825 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 15:29:55 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9PJTtf07622 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 15:29:55 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.200]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031025192949.XJHX1852.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 15:29:49 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9ACF2D.FAB4EF09@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:29:49 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: my pet References: <20031025181926.68654.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031025150700.00b2de90@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > Yes, it's now 21-17 KY. The last time I went in there, it had moved on to 28-17, so I decided it was time to stop wasting electricity. No more tv noise in my pleasantly quiet house. I should probably go take Spencer for a walk before the rain comes. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 16:03:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PL3v6q000977 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:03:57 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 826091E6014C; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:01:13 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53E131E600ED for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:01:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1E3CB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:54:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14876493 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:54:16 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9PKsGf13352 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:54:16 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.200]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031025205411.PCGX1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:54:11 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9AE2F2.334E7490@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 15:54:10 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Katzen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ok, so I fed the outdoor cat on the back porch, his usual eating place. But instead of putting Ugly's food in the usual outside place, I put it in the inside bowl. Then I lured her with the canned food (she gets it -- the outside cat doesn't) into the house. Her hesitancy to come in worried me. Maybe she'd rather be outside. But I guess most of the hesitancy was that I was in there -- a very recent acquaintance with dog smells about me. Anyway, I left her eating her food in the kitchen and locked the door. That seems so very strange to me -- to lock up a cat in a house. I know it's done. I've fed indoor cats before. But it still made me feel weird. I did it because it's supposed to rain and turn cold tonight and be cold and rainy all day tomorrow -- like a 30+ degree drop in temperature. Does the above sound like the right thing to have done? (As I think I mentioned, the human companion of the cats told me that if Ugly wanted to stay inside the whole week, that was fine. And he said don't worry about the litterbox -- not even to go back there since it would be a mess.) I figure if he told me it was ok for her to stay in all week, then it makes sense for me to have just left her captive in the house. And the litterbox won't become as messy in just these few days left before his Tuesday-night return. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 16:10:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PLAC6q001001 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:10:12 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3CF971E60152; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:07:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AB0D1E60151 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:07:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001BD3AA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 17:00:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14876961 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 17:00:30 -0400 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9PL0Tf13854 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 17:00:29 -0400 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:00:28 PDT Message-ID: <20031025210028.63798.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:00:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Katzen To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F9AE2F2.334E7490@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Does the above sound like the right thing to have > done? (As I think I > mentioned, the human companion of the cats told me > that if Ugly wanted > to stay inside the whole week, that was fine. And > he said don't worry > about the litterbox -- not even to go back there > since it would be a > mess.) I figure if he told me it was ok for her to > stay in all week, > then it makes sense for me to have just left her > captive in the house. > And the litterbox won't become as messy in just > these few days left > before his Tuesday-night return. It's the only reasonable and logical thing you could have done, all things considered. You are an admirable cat-sitter. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 16:19:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PLJU6q001093 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:19:30 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0E9701E6014C; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:16:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18D9B1E600ED for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:16:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1E463@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 17:09:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14877650 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 17:09:47 -0400 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9PL9lf14593 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 17:09:47 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_dev1.2.) id c.139.26d9da3e (4380) for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 17:09:39 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <139.26d9da3e.2ccc4092@aol.com> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 17:09:38 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Katzen To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/25/2003 3:54:22 PM Central Daylight Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << I did it because it's supposed to rain and turn cold tonight and be cold and rainy all day tomorrow -- like a 30+ degree drop in temperature. >> You did the right thing; I'd hate to think of Sweetie stuck outside in the cold and wet; she wouldn't know what to do except stay at the door and meow to be let in. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 16:31:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PLVM6q001289 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:31:22 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 404D41E6014C; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:28:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E6631E600ED for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:28:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1E46F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 17:21:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14878037 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 17:21:41 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9PLLff15498 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 17:21:41 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-154-245.gwi.net [216.195.154.245]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9PLLcAt062275; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 17:21:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031025171934.00b43118@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 17:21:37 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: my pet In-Reply-To: <3F9ACF2D.FAB4EF09@maynor.net> References: <20031025181926.68654.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031025150700.00b2de90@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:29 PM 10/25/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >"clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > > > Yes, it's now 21-17 KY. > >The last time I went in there, it had moved on to 28-17, so I decided it >was time to stop wasting electricity. Wise choice. It ended 42-17 or something like that. (Maybe Jackie S. can take the place of a bull?) cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 17:18:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PMIS6q001603 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 17:18:29 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 84C331E6015C; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 17:15:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E7581E6015A for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 17:15:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1E502@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:08:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14879436 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:08:47 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9PM8lf18536 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:08:47 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.200]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031025220842.GLPS1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:08:42 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9AF469.250BF786@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 17:08:41 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Katzen References: <20031025210028.63798.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > It's the only reasonable and logical thing you could > have done, all things considered. You are an > admirable cat-sitter. Thank you. I feel ill at ease because I don't understand cats as well as I do dogs and because I had never met these cats or their human companion until right before my tenure as feeder began. But they have been fairly friendly -- only ever-so-slightly suspicious acting. Actually, the outdoor one doesn't seem suspicious at all. He (she?) runs up to me and then goes with me onto the screened porch, not seeming the least bit hesitant to be up-close-and-personal. Ugly is a bit shyer. I hope she's visible when I go tomorrow morning -- as in that she's not hiding in some other part of the house. I want to count heads of creatures I'm responsible for and know they are alive and well. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 17:20:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PMKu6q001657 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 17:20:56 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D056E1E6015C; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 17:18:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0FBC1E60152 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 17:18:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1E510@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:11:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14879541 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:11:15 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9PMBEf18671 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:11:14 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.200]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031025221109.GMAU1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:11:09 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9AF4FD.3125E297@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 17:11:09 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Katzen References: <139.26d9da3e.2ccc4092@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > I'd hate to think of Sweetie stuck outside > in the cold and wet; she wouldn't know what to do except stay > at the door and meow to be let in. I wonder where the outdoor cat will choose to go when the rain starts. I've never seen him go under the house. That seemed to be Ugly's place. The outdoor one often sits under a car parked in the driveway, which is one possible place he'll go. Or he might stay on the screened porch. I think there's a mudroom or some such with an open door from that porch -- a place that would be even warmer and dryer probably. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 17:23:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PMN76q001692 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 17:23:07 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3341C1E6015C; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 17:20:23 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 049241E60151 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 17:20:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1E512@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:13:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14879560 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:13:26 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9PMDQf18759 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:13:26 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.200]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031025221320.GMLV1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:13:20 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9AF580.8DC9D64@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 17:13:20 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: my pet References: <20031025181926.68654.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031025150700.00b2de90@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031025171934.00b43118@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > Wise choice. It ended 42-17 or something like that. Yes. I went in there and turned it back on during the last minute and a half or so. So I got to see The End. > (Maybe Jackie S. can > take the place of a bull?) Poor Jackie. I do wonder why things have gone downhill the past few years. I don't know whose fault it is. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 17:24:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PMOV6q001700 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 17:24:31 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 56B031E60160; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 17:21:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2503D1E6015A for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 17:21:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1E52E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:14:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14879573 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:14:50 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9PMEof18796 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:14:50 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.200]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031025221445.GMRH1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:14:45 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9AF5D4.6DF6CCB2@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 17:14:44 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Cheney Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I think I forgot to mention that Dick Cheney is going to be at the W (MUW -- Mississippi University for Women) Monday. Should I show up wearing my Dean t-shirt? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 17:47:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PMlW6q001988 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 17:47:32 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3A6A31E60146; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 17:44:48 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A9BC1E600F2 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 17:44:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1E535@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:37:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14879957 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:37:51 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9PMbpf19927 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:37:51 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9PMbo8b027419 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:37:50 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.105]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9PMbnfC011838 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:37:49 -0400 Message-ID: <007301c39b48$9f5a1f20$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3F9AF5D4.6DF6CCB2@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Cheney Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:37:49 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" > I think I forgot to mention that Dick Cheney is going to be at the W > (MUW -- Mississippi University for Women) Monday. Should I show up > wearing my Dean t-shirt? > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Why not just sport an ass? ;-P From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 18:05:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PN5x6q002124 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:05:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E093E1E6014C; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:03:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE7C31E60146 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:03:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001BD529@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:56:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14880260 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:56:10 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9PMuAf20780 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:56:10 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-154-245.gwi.net [216.195.154.245]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9PMu7At073392; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:56:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031025185516.00b40c00@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:55:44 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: my pet In-Reply-To: <3F9AF580.8DC9D64@maynor.net> References: <20031025181926.68654.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031025150700.00b2de90@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031025171934.00b43118@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:13 PM 10/25/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Poor Jackie. I do wonder why things have gone downhill the past few >years. I don't know whose fault it is. His. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 18:09:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PN9r6q002159 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:09:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1C9751E6014C; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:07:09 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E292A1E60146 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:07:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1E55F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:00:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14880377 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:00:12 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9PN0Bf20991 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:00:11 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.200]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031025230006.TLOP1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:00:06 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9B0075.F56D7A98@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:00:05 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cheney References: <3F9AF5D4.6DF6CCB2@maynor.net> <007301c39b48$9f5a1f20$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alan Wild wrote: > Why not just sport an ass? I wonder whether the secret-service would let me in. I forgot to notice what time Monday. Since I have to be in my office and then teaching Monday morning and have a long list of stuff to do Monday afternoon and have to be at another post-card addressing Democratic Party function Monday night, I guess I might not be able to work Dickie in. I also have been invited to join the Governor for breakfast at the Stakville Cafe Monday at 7 a.m. But I'm not going. I wasn't exactly singled out. Lots of people were told about it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 18:11:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PNBU6q002174 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:11:30 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3B1781E60152; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:08:46 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BAFD1E60151 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:08:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1E589@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:01:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14880494 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:01:49 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9PN1nf21166 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:01:49 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.200]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031025230144.TLWP1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:01:44 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9B00D7.85BB7E38@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:01:43 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: my pet References: <20031025181926.68654.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031025150700.00b2de90@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031025171934.00b43118@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031025185516.00b40c00@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > >Poor Jackie. I do wonder why things have gone downhill the past few > >years. I don't know whose fault it is. > > His. For sure the Head Coach is the person ultimately responsible, but I'm not sure what he has done differently in the past few years. (I do think that firing Joe Lee Dunn as Defensive Coordinator last year was a bad move, but things were already going downhill at that time, which is why he fired everybody.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 18:21:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PNLB6q002253 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:21:11 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7E8941E6014C; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:18:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F1351E60146 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:18:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1E5A9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:11:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14880853 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:11:29 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9PNBTf22148 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:11:29 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001BD547@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:11:29 -0400 Message-Id: <200310252311.h9PNBTf22148@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:11:29 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: my pet [plus aphids and scale] To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 10:55:20 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >bonniev wrote: >> >> >At first I thought Rupert was saying something about the cold -- as in >> >Balboa died from the cold, but then I realized he was saying that Balboa >> >was cold -- as in dead. -- Natalie >> >> But aren't snakes always cold? They are cold-blooded, I thought. > >That thought flashed through my mind when Rupert said what he did, but >then I thought I remembered having read somewhere that that's a myth -- >that snakes aren't cold to the touch. I have no intention of conducting >personal experiments to find out. I have handled plenty of snakes, and verify that they aren't generally cold to the touch. Cold-blooded means unable to produce internal heat to be warmer than the environment makes possible. That's why they like to sun themselves on rocks, and are so sluggish in cold weather. Snakes are pleasant, dry and sort of like paper, to the touch. > >Meanwhile, though, I'm into aphids and scale. It takes all kinds. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 18:22:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PNMx6q002258 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:22:59 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 831121E60146; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:20:14 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F8C21E600F4 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:20:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001BD567@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:13:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14880889 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:13:17 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9PNDHf22331 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:13:17 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001BD54B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:13:17 -0400 Message-Id: <200310252313.h9PNDHf22331@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:13:17 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:20:43 -0400, bonniev wrote: >>It seems to me that all addictions are the results of >>those wished for "fairy worlds". Until near the end >>of the rope, when the wisher is too far gone to care. > >So would that mean that cynical people, who know that there is no fairy >world, are least likely to have an addictive personality?? > > >bonnie Yeah, well, we know better than that! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 18:25:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PNPr6q002269 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:25:53 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DF3DE1E60151; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:23:08 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0CD31E6014C for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:23:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1E5B1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:16:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14880931 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:16:12 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9PNGCf22599 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:16:12 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001BD56B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:16:11 -0400 Message-Id: <200310252316.h9PNGCf22599@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:16:11 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Katzen To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 15:54:10 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Ok, so I fed the outdoor cat on the back porch, his usual eating place. >But instead of putting Ugly's food in the usual outside place, I put it >in the inside bowl. Then I lured her with the canned food (she gets it >-- the outside cat doesn't) into the house. Her hesitancy to come in >worried me. Maybe she'd rather be outside. But I guess most of the >hesitancy was that I was in there -- a very recent acquaintance with dog >smells about me. Anyway, I left her eating her food in the kitchen and >locked the door. That seems so very strange to me -- to lock up a cat >in a house. I know it's done. I've fed indoor cats before. But it >still made me feel weird. I did it because it's supposed to rain and >turn cold tonight and be cold and rainy all day tomorrow -- like a 30+ >degree drop in temperature. > >Does the above sound like the right thing to have done? Yes. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 18:44:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PNid6q002468 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:44:39 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2015D1E600F8; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:41:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E64221E600F2 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:41:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001BD58D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:34:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14881306 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:34:57 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9PNYvf23813 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:34:57 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.200]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031025233451.HAIQ1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:34:51 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9B089B.278E1D20@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:34:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: my pet [plus aphids and scale] References: <200310252311.h9PNBTf22148@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > That's why they like to sun > themselves on rocks, and are so sluggish in cold weather. Sluggish? I thought they went down into holes in the winter to hibernate. I'm planning on doing some clearing in the messy ivy sometime this winter -- the stuff I paid the landscaping people a bunch of money to clear out has grown back. I was planning on picking an extremely cold day to get into the task, a day when the snakes would know for sure that it's winter and would not be present. Might they be lounging about sluggishly in the ivy instead of being way down in a hole asleep? Even a sluggish snake is one I don't want to encounter. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 18:45:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PNjl6q002473 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:45:47 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 43B7B1E60151; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:43:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 162051E6014C for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:43:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1E5CB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:36:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14881312 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:36:05 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9PNa5f23858 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:36:05 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.200]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031025233559.HANR1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:35:59 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9B08DF.85F85A9@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:35:59 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Katzen References: <200310252316.h9PNGCf22599@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >Does the above sound like the right thing to have done? > > Yes. What would I do without Words-L? How did I manage life in pre-Words-L days? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 18:56:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PNuG6q002560 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:56:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 329621E6014C; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:53:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00EE61E600F2 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:53:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1E604@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:46:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14881743 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:46:34 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9PNkYf24927 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:46:34 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-154-245.gwi.net [216.195.154.245]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9PNkTGr048219; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:46:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031025193431.00b56de8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:35:48 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: my pet In-Reply-To: <3F9B00D7.85BB7E38@maynor.net> References: <20031025181926.68654.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031025150700.00b2de90@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031025171934.00b43118@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031025185516.00b40c00@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:01 PM 10/25/2003 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >"clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > > > >Poor Jackie. I do wonder why things have gone downhill the past few > > >years. I don't know whose fault it is. > > > > His. > >For sure the Head Coach is the person ultimately responsible, but I'm >not sure what he has done differently in the past few years. (I do >think that firing Joe Lee Dunn as Defensive Coordinator last year was a >bad move, but things were already going downhill at that time, which is >why he fired everybody.) Of course. He sacrificed everyone else to keep his own phony-baloney job. It is in keeping with his entire career. Developer of men. Yeah. Sure. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 18:56:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9PNuH6q002563 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:56:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 116A71E6014C; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:53:32 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7A5E1E600F2 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:53:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1E5EA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:46:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14881747 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:46:35 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9PNkZf24932 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:46:35 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-154-245.gwi.net [216.195.154.245]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9PNkTGt048219 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:46:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031025193704.00b409b8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:39:26 -0400 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: A good Saturday night... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The pepperoni and Stilton pizza is in the oven. The Cole Porter (a production of Atlantic Brewing, MDI) is cool. My 3-DVD set of Smiley's People arrived today. See ya. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 19:05:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9Q05S6q002681 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:05:28 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 22B491E600F2; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:02:43 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4DBF1E60146 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:02:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1E5FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:55:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14881949 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:55:46 -0400 Received: from imo-r01.mx.aol.com (imo-r01.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.97]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9PNtkf25542 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:55:46 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.f4.32a759ef (3948) for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:55:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:55:39 EDT Subject: Re: ta ta To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/24/2003 5:20:03 PM, aborkin@RAHUL.NET writes: >to Florida. Nomail. Have a wonderful time; au revoir. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 19:28:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9Q0Si6q002837 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:28:44 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 027DA1E60167; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:25:59 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C76961E60166 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:25:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1E644@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:19:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14882366 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:19:02 -0400 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9Q0J2f26718 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:19:02 -0400 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_dev1.2.) id c.c9.39455f71 (3948) for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:18:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:18:49 EDT Subject: Re: Katzen To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/25/2003 2:54:36 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >And the litterbox won't become as messy in just these few days left >before his Tuesday-night return. > I clean mine every day, and she doesn't even stay in all day long. And believe me; it's necessary! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 19:29:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9Q0TI6q002842 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:29:18 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3CB2C1E60151; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:26:33 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DB1B1E60146 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:26:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1E645@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:19:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14882380 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:19:36 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9Q0Jaf26740 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:19:36 -0400 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-154-245.gwi.net [216.195.154.245]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9Q0JYAr084877 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:19:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031025201747.00bb13c0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:19:51 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Katzen In-Reply-To: <3F9AF469.250BF786@maynor.net> References: <20031025210028.63798.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Ugly is a bit >shyer. I hope she's visible when I go tomorrow morning -- as in that >she's not hiding in some other part of the house. I want to count heads >of creatures I'm responsible for and know they are alive and well. > -- Natalie Be careful when you open the door that Ugly is not waiting to dash out into the cold and rain. She will come when she hears the food. You did the right thing. And don't worry about the litter box. The owner will know his own cat and if he says to not clean it, then that means that Ugly will keep using it even if it's dirty. Two of our cats are like that. The third cat would rather poop on the floor than mess her feet in a dirty litter box. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 19:34:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9Q0Yc6q002873 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:34:38 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1AE861E60166; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:31:53 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD3B51E60162 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:31:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1E62F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:24:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14882446 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:24:56 -0400 Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com (imo-r06.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.102]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9Q0Ouf26970 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:24:56 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.16d.2375deda (4214) for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:24:49 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <16d.2375deda.2ccc6e50@aol.com> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:24:48 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Katzen To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 921 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Before I got Brandy, I never saw a cat perch on the corner of the litter box; well, he did, and Sweetie does that, too, as if she's too fastidious to get her feet dirty. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 20:38:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9Q1cU6q003574 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:38:30 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6BFAD1E6016F; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:35:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 398FA1E60101 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:35:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1E6A5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:28:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14883543 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:28:47 -0400 Received: from web20509.mail.yahoo.com (web20509.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.144]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9Q1Skf30190 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:28:47 -0400 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20509.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:28:46 PDT Message-ID: <20031026012846.62521.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:28:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: my pet To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F9AF580.8DC9D64@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Poor Jackie. I do wonder why things have gone > downhill the past few > years. I don't know whose fault it is. Possibly Jackie's? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 20:44:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9Q1iR6q003607 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:44:27 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 827781E60101; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:41:41 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 552C91E600FD for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:41:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1E6AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:34:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14883614 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:34:44 -0400 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9Q1Yif30515 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:34:44 -0400 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:34:43 PDT Message-ID: <20031026013443.13882.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:34:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: my pet To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F9B00D7.85BB7E38@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > For sure the Head Coach is the person ultimately > responsible, but I'm > not sure what he has done differently in the past > few years. (I do > think that firing Joe Lee Dunn as Defensive > Coordinator last year was a > bad move, but things were already going downhill at > that time, which is > why he fired everybody.) It would appear that it's more than his coaching career going south, so to speak. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 20:55:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9Q1tg6q003702 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:55:43 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 366F51E6016F; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:52:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01BF91E60169 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:52:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001BD681@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:46:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14883916 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:46:00 -0400 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9Q1jxf31304 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:45:59 -0400 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:45:58 PDT Message-ID: <20031026014558.53158.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:45:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Katzen To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <16d.2375deda.2ccc6e50@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > Before I got Brandy, I never saw a cat perch on the > corner of > the litter box; well, he did, and Sweetie does that, > too, as if > she's too fastidious to get her feet dirty. At different times, I have seen two cats who were toilet trained, and one ferret who was trained to the bath tub, though that is not very desirable. It may beat the alternative, though. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 21:30:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9Q2Uh6q003988 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:30:43 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6BD781E6016F; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:27:57 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EA3D1E60169 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:27:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1E70D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:21:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14884502 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:21:00 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9Q2L0f00681 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:21:00 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001BD6C1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:20:59 -0400 Message-Id: <200310260221.h9Q2L0f00681@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:20:59 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: my pet [plus aphids and scale] To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:34:51 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> That's why they like to sun >> themselves on rocks, and are so sluggish in cold weather. > >Sluggish? I thought they went down into holes in the winter to >hibernate. I'm planning on doing some clearing in the messy ivy >sometime this winter -- the stuff I paid the landscaping people a bunch >of money to clear out has grown back. I was planning on picking an >extremely cold day to get into the task, a day when the snakes would >know for sure that it's winter and would not be present. Might they be >lounging about sluggishly in the ivy instead of being way down in a hole >asleep? Even a sluggish snake is one I don't want to encounter. > Whether or not they have gone into hibernation yet in your area, is a question I can't answer. As to lounging in the ivy, do they do that normally? Usually snakes are either hiding in moist, protected places or sunning in warm, dry places - or hunting, mostly at night. But hibernation is different from knowing it's a cold day. In hibernation, the body is dormant for a long period of time, without special regard for the ambient climate. So if you want to wait for them to be in hibernation and not moving around at all (this is presuming you have a lot of snakes in your yard, which seems surprising to me), I would wait until it's the coldest, shortest-day part of the year (say, January). But consult your local Cooperative Extension for snake behavior in your area; obviously I don't have the pertinent information for all areas of the country. This site is Missouri, but it contains basic information clearly worded, which may be helpful: http://muextension.missouri.edu/xplor/agguides/wildlife/g09450.htm clo http://muextension.missouri.edu/xplor/agguides/wildlife/g09450.htm From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 21:39:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9Q2dE6q004157 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:39:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 83BC61E60169; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:36:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 517501E6016F for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:36:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1E6FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:29:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14884633 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:29:31 -0400 Received: from web20509.mail.yahoo.com (web20509.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.144]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9Q2TVf01250 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:29:31 -0400 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20509.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:29:30 PDT Message-ID: <20031026022930.73849.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:29:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: my pet [plus aphids and scale] To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200310260221.h9Q2L0f00681@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote:On Sat, 25 > Whether or not they have gone into hibernation yet in your area, is a question I can't answer. As to lounging in the ivy, do they do that normally? Usually snakes are either hiding in moist, protected places or sunning in warm, dry places - or hunting, mostly at night. But hibernation is different from knowing it's a cold day. In hibernation, the body is dormant for a long period of time, without special regard for the ambient climate. So if you want to wait for them to be in hibernation and not moving around at all (this is presuming you have a lot of snakes in your yard, which seems surprising to me), I would wait until it's the coldest, shortest-day part of the year (say, January). The sucky South is "eat up" with snakes, and at first, you think everyone around you is paranoid about it - until, that is, you learn there are several brands which are very poisonous. Unfortunately, I think it is rare that it gets cold enough here to lull the creatures into really deep sleep. In fact, I read or heard somewhere that the definition of hibernation as we have known it in the past is undergoing some revision. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 21:46:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9Q2k36q004222 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:46:03 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1398E1E60170; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:43:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D945A1E60104 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:43:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001BD6BA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:36:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14884732 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:36:20 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9Q2aJf01548 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:36:19 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.200]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031026023614.BGOX1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:36:14 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9B331E.1404EBAA@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:36:14 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Speaking of Jackie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU If somebody decides to make a movie about Jackie Sherrill, there's a movie actor who looks very much like him. I just watched a movie on tv named "Misery" -- a movie I kept considering turning off at first since it was somewhat tedious, but I wanted to know how it ended. I kept wanting to be able to fast-forward the tv set. Since I couldn't, I watched the whole thing. Anyway, the main character looked very much like Jackie. At the end the credits hopped onto the screen, and I saw that that person is named James Caan. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 21:49:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9Q2nE6q004242 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:49:14 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 738B61E6017E; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:46:28 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44E0C1E60170 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:46:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1E724@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:39:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14884773 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:39:16 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9Q2dFf01656 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:39:15 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.200]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031026023910.BHCV1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:39:10 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9B33CE.30A9C861@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:39:10 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: my pet References: <20031025181926.68654.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031025150700.00b2de90@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031025171934.00b43118@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031025185516.00b40c00@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031025193431.00b56de8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > >For sure the Head Coach is the person ultimately responsible, but I'm > >not sure what he has done differently in the past few years. (I do > >think that firing Joe Lee Dunn as Defensive Coordinator last year was a > >bad move, but things were already going downhill at that time, which is > >why he fired everybody.) > > Of course. He sacrificed everyone else to keep his own phony-baloney > job. It is in keeping with his entire career. Developer of men. Yeah. Sure. It was obvious that he sacrificed everyone else to keep his job, but what I'm wondering is why he ended up in that position -- ended up as a loser after having been a winner for a good while. What was he doing earlier that he was not doing later? Or vice versa. Uh oh. Here comes the promised thunder. I will stay online for now since it's not extremely close yet, but I may vanish suddenly if it gets too close. I don't want to have to go through the rigamarole again of replacing my DSL modem. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 21:50:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9Q2oD6q004256 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:50:13 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CDE031E60178; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:47:27 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E2FB1E6016F for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:47:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1E70B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:40:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14884790 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:40:30 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9Q2eUf01696 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:40:30 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.200]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031026024025.BHIS1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:40:25 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9B3419.B56EF61B@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:40:25 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Katzen References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > >And the litterbox won't become as messy in just these few days left > >before his Tuesday-night return. > > > I clean mine every day, and she doesn't even stay in all day long. > And believe me; it's necessary! Apparently Ugly's human companion doesn't consider it necessary. And his wish is my command when it's his cat and his house. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 21:54:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9Q2sX6q004314 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:54:33 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 82AFA1E60184; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:51:47 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54AF41E60183 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:51:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1E728@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:44:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14884911 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:44:50 -0400 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9Q2iof01991 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:44:50 -0400 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:44:49 PDT Message-ID: <20031026024449.21474.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:44:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Speaking of Jackie To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F9B331E.1404EBAA@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At the end the credits hopped onto the > screen, and I saw > that that person is named James Caan. He has been around for rather a long time. The woman was Kathy Bates, an Oscar winner. The movie was very popular when first released. Caan is a good actor. I wonder how he feels about bulls? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 21:55:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9Q2tC6q004321 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:55:12 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 175921E60183; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:52:26 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC9CF1E60169 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:52:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1E72E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:45:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14884967 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:45:26 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9Q2jPf02098 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:45:25 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.200]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031026024520.BIHS1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:45:20 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9B3540.CD747C64@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:45:20 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Katzen References: <20031025210028.63798.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031025201747.00bb13c0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Be careful when you open the door that Ugly is not waiting to dash out into > the cold and rain. She will come when she hears the food. The food is inside. That may help. My routine has been to go inside first to get the food and then bring it outside to do the feedings. If Ugly bolts out the door, I will surely be able to lure her back in again with the food, especially the canned food. And I am very glad she's inside right now. As I've been writing this, the sky's bottom has fallen out. The rain is apouring. The temperature hasn't dropped yet, but that is promised for tonight/tomorrow. > You did the > right thing. And don't worry about the litter box. The owner will know > his own cat and if he says to not clean it, then that means that Ugly will > keep using it even if it's dirty. Two of our cats are like that. The > third cat would rather poop on the floor than mess her feet in a dirty > litter box. Thanks. I really do think that he wouldn't have said that if it wasn't ok. But I like hearing confirmation from a cat person. The thunder is growing closer... -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 21:56:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9Q2uG6q004332 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:56:16 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1A0251E6016F; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:53:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEA611E60169 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:53:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1E725@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:46:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14885013 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:46:33 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9Q2kUf02171 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:46:30 -0400 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.200]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031026024625.BILY1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:46:25 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9B3581.756780C8@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:46:25 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: my pet References: <20031026013443.13882.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > > For sure the Head Coach is the person ultimately > > responsible, but I'm > > not sure what he has done differently in the past > > few years. (I do > > think that firing Joe Lee Dunn as Defensive > > Coordinator last year was a > > bad move, but things were already going downhill at > > that time, which is > > why he fired everybody.) > > It would appear that it's more than his coaching > career going south, so to speak. No, Joe Lee Dunn moved to Memphis. That's north. :-) EGADS! MAJOR THUNDER! BYE! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 21:56:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9Q2uH6q004335 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:56:17 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 00B041E6016F; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:53:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6F3C1E60169 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:53:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001BD6D8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:46:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14885018 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:46:33 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9Q2kXf02185 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:46:33 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1E740@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:46:33 -0400 Message-Id: <200310260246.h9Q2kXf02185@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:46:33 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: my pet [plus aphids and scale] To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:29:30 -0700, Lynne Weber wrote: > >The sucky South is "eat up" with snakes, and at first, >you think everyone around you is paranoid about it - >until, that is, you learn there are several brands >which are very poisonous. Unfortunately, I think it >is rare that it gets cold enough here to lull the >creatures into really deep sleep. Yes, I know about southern snakes; but Natalie spends a fair amount of time rootling around in her yard, so it strikes me as being less hospitable to shy creatures than the meadows of my youth. >In fact, I read or heard somewhere that the definition >of hibernation as we have known it in the past is >undergoing some revision. True, true oh King; but even with revision, it's better to wait till deep cold season than to pick a random chilly day in fall to count on snakes to sleep. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 25 22:00:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9Q3046q004359 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:00:04 -0500 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9691F1E6017E; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:57:18 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63BB81E60184 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:57:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1E736@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:50:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14885163 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:50:21 -0400 Received: from web20503.mail.yahoo.com (web20503.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.138]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9Q2oLf02503 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:50:21 -0400 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:50:20 PDT Message-ID: <20031026025020.9368.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:50:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: my pet [plus aphids and scale] To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200310260246.h9Q2kXf02185@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > True, true oh King; but even with revision, it's > better to wait till deep > cold season than to pick a random chilly day in fall > to count on snakes to > sleep. Which is the time-honored answer I have for folks who seem to want me to clean out my utility house. I'm not as alarmed by the slithery-dees as some, but I have a healthy respect for them. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 06:16:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QCGW6q008305 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 06:16:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5EA481E6013A; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 06:13:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3053D1E60130 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 06:13:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001BDD52@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 7:06:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14149576 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:06:44 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QC6if07368 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:06:44 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.133.193]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031026120639.VXUG1780.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:06:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9BB8CE.EEFD34E@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 06:06:38 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: my pet [plus aphids and scale] References: <200310260221.h9Q2L0f00681@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Whether or not they have gone into hibernation yet in your area, is a > question I can't answer. Heavens! They would definitely not be hibernating yet. Nor do they sleep all winter. They come out on warm days, even in the middle of winter, or at least that's what I have been told all my life. I can't remember whether I've actually noticed them crawling about in the middle of winter since I go out of my way to avoid places I might encounter them. > As to lounging in the ivy, do they do that > normally? Usually snakes are either hiding in moist, protected places or > sunning in warm, dry places - or hunting, mostly at night. Ohhh the snakes crawl at night... I wonder where my old Charley Pride tapes are. As to whether they normally lounge in the ivy, I would say probably. I remember the day I was talking to the landscaping people about the growth in the ivy and said that I was not about to go walking into it because I was scared of snakes, the head man nodded and said he wasn't wild about them either and that he'd guess there were at least eight or ten snakes in there. He was no doubt including, and possibly even it would be limited to, those very small, harmless snakes, but I'm not going to get friendly with them either. Re sunning themselves, I don't think I've ever noticed that, except maybe on canoe trips in coldish weather. I think of them as hanging out in weeds (and ivy). I don't know how moist it is in the ivy, but it's a more or less "protected place" -- as in a thickly covered shady place. If their bodies take on the temperature around them, I would think they would want shade in the summer. > But hibernation is different from knowing it's a cold day. In hibernation, > the body is dormant for a long period of time, without special regard for > the ambient climate. So if you want to wait for them to be in hibernation > and not moving around at all (this is presuming you have a lot of snakes in > your yard, which seems surprising to me), I rarely see snakes crawling around in anybody's yard. It's not as if there are snake parties going on all over town. My impression is that they don't like neatly manicured yards, except in flower beds, etc. They like more vegetation than short, stubby grass. > I would wait until it's the > coldest, shortest-day part of the year (say, January). But consult your > local Cooperative Extension for snake behavior in your area; obviously I > don't have the pertinent information for all areas of the country. I for sure would not go into that ivy on any day that wasn't extremely cold. I'm thinking of a very cold, gray day in January or so. > This site is Missouri, but it contains basic information clearly worded, > which may be helpful: > http://muextension.missouri.edu/xplor/agguides/wildlife/g09450.htm > > clo > http://muextension.missouri.edu/xplor/agguides/wildlife/g09450.htm Thanks for the urls. I will chase them in a little while. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 06:18:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QCIt6q008318 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 06:18:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C642F1E601E0; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 06:16:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 937211E6013A for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 06:16:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001BDD53@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 7:09:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14149586 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:09:08 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QC98f07450 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:09:08 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.133.193]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031026120902.VYFC1780.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:09:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9BB95E.7BBEA466@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 06:09:02 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: my pet [plus aphids and scale] References: <20031026022930.73849.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > The sucky South is "eat up" with snakes, and at first, > you think everyone around you is paranoid about it - > until, that is, you learn there are several brands > which are very poisonous. Unfortunately, I think it > is rare that it gets cold enough here to lull the > creatures into really deep sleep. I think you are right. When I said "hibernating," I was thinking of naps, not deep, long-lasting sleep. Re the poisonous brands, Mississippi (and presumably Alabama) is blessed with all of the poisonous snakes that exist in North America -- though supposedly the coral snake is only in south Mississippi, which I am not in. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 06:22:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QCM26q008377 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 06:22:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4EC471E60136; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 06:19:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F3F1E60130 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 06:19:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1EDF9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 7:12:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14149755 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:12:14 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QCCEf07979 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:12:14 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.133.193]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031026121208.VYUY1780.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:12:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9BBA18.A39EAE9E@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 06:12:08 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Jackie References: <20031026024449.21474.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > He has been around for rather a long time. The woman > was Kathy Bates, an Oscar winner. The movie was very > popular when first released. Caan is a good actor. I > wonder how he feels about bulls? I kept thinking last night that I could see him directing the bull-castration in the stadium. He really does look like JS. I wish the movie had let us know how he managed to get out of that house after finally killing the crazy woman and who would be in charge of the investigation since the sheriff was dead and how the sheriff's deputy wife managed to handle the shock and grief, etc. I didn't like that it jumped right over all that. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 06:26:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QCQn6q008393 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 06:26:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 136901E601EC; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 06:24:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA5A21E60130 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 06:23:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1EE13@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 7:17:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14149875 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:17:02 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QCH2f08335 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:17:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.133.193]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031026121657.VZQR1780.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:16:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9BBB38.1E7C5B8F@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 06:16:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: my pet [plus aphids and scale] References: <200310260246.h9Q2kXf02185@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Yes, I know about southern snakes; but Natalie spends a fair amount of time > rootling around in her yard, so it strikes me as being less hospitable to > shy creatures than the meadows of my youth. I am careful of where I root around. I do not go into the ivy, I look very carefully before doing anything in a flower bed, etc. > True, true oh King; but even with revision, it's better to wait till deep > cold season than to pick a random chilly day in fall to count on snakes to > sleep. It certainly would not occur to me to pick a chilly day in fall. Nor would I pick a merely chilly day in winter. We don't have a "deep cold season." We sometimes have several days of cold weather that is as cold as the typical winter weather in your neck of the woods, but the big difference between here and there is that cold spells like that are occasional and that we also have summer-like days in winter. Winter here is widely varying from week to week. If somebody asked me right now what kind of clothes to bring (re weather) for a trip to Mississippi in January, I'd laugh. Either you'd need a big suitcase or you'd need to check the weather forecast at the very last minute and then hope that it wasn't off the mark too far. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 06:37:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QCbN6q008487 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 06:37:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5C69B1E601EA; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 06:34:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E5C71E601EC for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 06:34:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1EE2E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 7:27:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14150017 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:27:35 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QCRZf08979 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:27:35 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.133.193]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031026122730.BQVD1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:27:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9BBDB1.EC8EA4C3@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 06:27:29 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: my pet [plus aphids and scale] References: <200310260221.h9Q2L0f00681@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > This site is Missouri, but it contains basic information clearly worded, > which may be helpful: > http://muextension.missouri.edu/xplor/agguides/wildlife/g09450.htm I just chased the url. I didn't read every word because I hate reading about snakes and because it seemed to be mainly well-known info. Re snakes as agressors, isn't one type of water mocassin also known to be aggressive, or is that a myth? (I know that most snakes are avoiders, not aggressors.) I'm glad in some ways that I no longer care about skiing. The thought of all those snakes swimming around always gave me major creeps, making me greatly prefer settings where I could start from a pier and then drop the rope at the perfect moment/position to toss myself back onto the pier -- i.e., never getting into the water at all. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 07:20:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QDKv6q008760 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:20:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BFBD71E601EC; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:18:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D3EE1E601EA for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:18:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1EE85@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 8:11:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14150940 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:11:10 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QDBAf11984 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:11:10 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-158-42.gwi.net [216.195.158.42]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9QDB8Gn096087 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:11:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031026080644.00b26df0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:11:09 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: my pet [plus aphids and scale] In-Reply-To: <3F9BB8CE.EEFD34E@maynor.net> References: <200310260221.h9Q2L0f00681@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Re sunning themselves, I don't think I've ever noticed that, except >maybe on canoe trips in coldish weather. Clyde saw a ball of them floating in the water probably reproducing. A huge ball of them. In Alabama, I think. >they don't like neatly manicured yards, except in flower beds, etc. >They like more vegetation than short, stubby grass. > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) That's probably because their food hangs out in dense vegetation -- rats. We had lots of ivy in the yard of our Tennessee house. I encouraged and propagated it. Dense, lush ivy. There are no poisonous snakes in Maine. But there are snakes. Some live across the street in the yard of a woman who is phobic. I made the mistake of casually remarking that she might see our little black cat hunting snakes over in her yard. Yikes. She turned pale. But she already knew about the snakes. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 07:22:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QDMB6q008775 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:22:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4B9A11E601EE; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:19:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CF401E601EC for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:19:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001BDDE5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 8:12:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14150985 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:12:23 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QDCNf12064 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:12:23 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-158-42.gwi.net [216.195.158.42]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9QDCMAr073007 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:12:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031026081209.00b904a8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:12:41 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Speaking of Jackie In-Reply-To: <3F9BBA18.A39EAE9E@maynor.net> References: <20031026024449.21474.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I wish the movie had let us know how he managed to get out of that house >after finally killing the crazy woman and who would be in charge of the >investigation since the sheriff was dead and how the sheriff's deputy >wife managed to handle the shock and grief, etc. I didn't like that it >jumped right over all that. -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) You could try reading the book. Or call up Stephen and ask him. Bangor exchange. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 07:38:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QDcm6q008968 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:38:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 25F761E601EC; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:35:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB9A91E601EE for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:35:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1EEA0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 8:29:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14151229 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:29:00 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QDT0f12918 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:29:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.133.193]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031026132855.CDAZ1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:28:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9BCC16.B1FB1763@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:28:54 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: my pet [plus aphids and scale] References: <200310260221.h9Q2L0f00681@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031026080644.00b26df0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Clyde saw a ball of them floating in the water probably reproducing. A > huge ball of them. In Alabama, I think. Ugh. Reminds me of the famous skiier story -- the UL (or would it be rural rather than urban?) about the skiier falling into a bed of snakes and thinking he was in barbed wire. The give-away that it was of was that it was always set at whatever lake you were near. I heard it told by various people about almost every lake I knew. > There are no poisonous snakes in Maine. But there are snakes. Some live I remember absolutely hating going back to my cabin at Lake George after being out late at night. The reason I hated it was that some large snakes hung out around the camp, non-poisonous but still horrifying. And since there was no electricity at the camp (except in the owners' cottage), it was pitch-black dark late at night, making it impossible to see what was on the path. One night I was running up the path and one of my weejuns fell off. I was too scared of snakes to go back and pick it up. I rescued it the next morning. Meanwhile, I am happy to report that both cats are accounted for. I didn't see Ugly when I first walked in but heard her meowing from the distance. I put the dry food in her not-emtpy bowl (I give her the canned in the afternoons), then went outside to feed the other cat, and saw Ugly ftf upon my return to the inside. So all is well. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 07:40:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QDep6q008982 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:40:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6CE8B1E601EE; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:38:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 392351E6013A for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:38:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1EEA1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 8:31:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14151351 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:31:04 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QDV3f13236 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:31:03 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.133.193]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031026133058.CDLJ1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:30:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9BCC91.8956725F@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:30:57 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Jackie References: <20031026024449.21474.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031026081209.00b904a8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > You could try reading the book. Or call up Stephen and ask him. Bangor > exchange. I don't want to read the whole book, but maybe I could find a copy of it and check the final chapters. Have you read it? Is that info in the book -- like who found Paul when he presumably dragged himself out of the house, who came back to the house to deal with the bodies, how the widow of the sheriff handled it, what the doctors thought of Paul's injuries, etc? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 08:18:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QEIR6q009348 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:18:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 947DE1E60142; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:15:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6708D1E60141 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:15:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1EEFA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 9:08:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14152198 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:08:39 -0500 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9QE8df15638 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:08:39 -0500 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 06:08:38 PST Message-ID: <20031026140838.40169.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 06:08:38 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: First Prize To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Cathy Ann Zeiterman, 12, has won first prize in the 2003 Autumn Fete for her creative carving of a jack- o'-borkin. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 08:24:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QEOm6q009386 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:24:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7E2C31E601EC; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:21:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F2BA1E60141 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:21:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001BDE38@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 9:15:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14152278 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:14:30 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QEEUf15923 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:14:30 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-158-42.gwi.net [216.195.158.42]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9QEESGn004677 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:14:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031026091340.00b99720@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:14:46 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Speaking of Jackie In-Reply-To: <3F9BCC91.8956725F@maynor.net> References: <20031026024449.21474.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031026081209.00b904a8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Have you read it? Is that info in the >book -- like who found Paul when he presumably dragged himself out of >the house, who came back to the house to deal with the bodies, how the >widow of the sheriff handled it, what the doctors thought of Paul's >injuries, etc? -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I've read it. But I don't remember and I see that we do not have a copy of it. Maybe when I go to the Big Chicken Barn this afternoon, I'll find a copy and browse through it for you. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 08:26:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QEQb6q009425 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:26:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7ED0F1E601F0; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:23:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA5F1E601EF for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:23:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1EEFA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 9:16:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14152320 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:16:49 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QEGnf16038 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:16:49 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-158-42.gwi.net [216.195.158.42]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9QEGlAr082808 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:16:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031026091453.00b47ae8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:17:06 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos In-Reply-To: <3F99CA7E.5C1D3133@maynor.net> References: <3F98255C.BF3B90ED@maynor.net> <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <3F988D4B.6F9E8413@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024074207.00b27f20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024141013.00bb0958@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024202727.00bad840@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Where in Florida has she moved? Her mother lived in Miami, iirc. Did >she move there? No, that wasn't her mother, was it? It was her no-good >sister, Lucy's mother. But Kay grew up in Miami, didn't she? > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Yes, Kay grew up in Miami. She is now living in a rented house in Delray Beach, just far enough north of Miami that she needn't put up with her deadbeat sister on a daily basis. Her old secretary is still with her. I'm now on page 132 and it's getting pretty good. A huge mind-blowing revelation has just been announced. Wow. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 08:33:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QEXW6q009465 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:33:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 03DB51E601EF; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:30:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89B4E1E6013E for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:30:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1EF12@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 9:23:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14152452 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:23:35 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QENZf16462 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:23:35 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.133.193]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031026142330.CNRN1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:23:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9BD8E1.2A4A0DD9@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:23:29 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos References: <3F98255C.BF3B90ED@maynor.net> <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <3F988D4B.6F9E8413@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024074207.00b27f20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024141013.00bb0958@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024202727.00bad840@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031026091453.00b47ae8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Yes, Kay grew up in Miami. She is now living in a rented house in Delray > Beach, just far enough north of Miami that she needn't put up with her > deadbeat sister on a daily basis. Her old secretary is still with > her. I'm now on page 132 and it's getting pretty good. A huge > mind-blowing revelation has just been announced. Wow. Why did she move? I liked her old house and environs. I'm looking forward to it. But I've got a huge stack of reading matter piled up to leap into when life gets less hectic. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 08:36:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QEaf6q009490 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:36:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7574F1E6013E; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:33:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B34E1E60141 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:33:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1EF14@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 9:26:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14152496 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:26:47 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QEQlf16607 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:26:47 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.133.193]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031026142641.COGX1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:26:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9BD9A1.4C61A131@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:26:41 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Heavens Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I never lock my car doors when driving. The vast majority of the respondents to this question said that they do. Maybe I should do so when I'm driving in Jackson next weekend. ******* Carjackings in Jackson are up roughly 30 percent from this time last year. As of Aug. 31, there had been 145 carjackings reported this year, compared with 116 at that time last year. Do you keep your doors locked while driving? ******* from: http://www.clarionledger.com/ -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 08:40:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QEe46q009505 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:40:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 745551E601EC; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:37:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46A321E60141 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:37:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001BDE76@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 9:30:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14152556 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:30:16 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QEUFf16834 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:30:15 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-158-42.gwi.net [216.195.158.42]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9QEUEGn007637 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:30:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031026092816.00b94a68@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:30:34 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos In-Reply-To: <3F9BD8E1.2A4A0DD9@maynor.net> References: <3F98255C.BF3B90ED@maynor.net> <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <3F988D4B.6F9E8413@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024074207.00b27f20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024141013.00bb0958@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024202727.00bad840@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031026091453.00b47ae8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Why did she move? I liked her old house and environs. I'm looking >forward to it. But I've got a huge stack of reading matter piled up to >leap into when life gets less hectic. -- Natalie You should retire. Kay moved away from Richmond because she got fired. All the beautiful things from her house are in storage because she was so upset about her lover being burned to death that she just walked away from the house and all of its reminders. Also the Wolfman tried to kill her in that house in a previous novel. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 08:45:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QEje6q009564 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:45:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AFB0A1E601EC; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:42:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 730DA1E60141 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:42:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1EF28@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 9:35:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14152719 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:35:52 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QEZqf17230 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:35:52 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.133.193]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031026143546.CQEM1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:35:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9BDBC2.B9CB8547@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:35:46 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Casinos and Taxes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU There's a column in today's Clarion-Ledger about casinos and taxes (not about the Choctaw casinos, of course, except to say that they are excluded from the discussion -- since they don't pay taxes): http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0310/26/lsid.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 08:52:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QEqN6q009701 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:52:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 768B11E601EC; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:49:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48DD81E6013E for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:49:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1EF1B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 9:42:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14152835 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:42:35 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QEgYf17656 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:42:35 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.133.193]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031026144229.CRQP1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:42:29 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9BDD55.390D4F38@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:42:29 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos References: <3F98255C.BF3B90ED@maynor.net> <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <3F988D4B.6F9E8413@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024074207.00b27f20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024141013.00bb0958@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024202727.00bad840@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031026091453.00b47ae8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031026092816.00b94a68@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > You should retire. Kay moved away from Richmond because she got > fired. All the beautiful things from her house are in storage because she > was so upset about her lover being burned to death that she just walked > away from the house and all of its reminders. Also the Wolfman tried to > kill her in that house in a previous novel. When did she get fired?? Was it in this current book you're reading, or have I missed one? I know she was upset about Wesley's getting fried, and I know that she had a harrowing experience in her house, but I didn't know about her being fired or about her decision to move. Does she still take solace in cooking pasta? Do Lucy and her girlfriends come visit her in Florida? You don't have to answer those last questions! I'll find out. But I am curious about whether I've missed a book along the line. What was the one before the one you're reading? (I don't usually remember their titles, so I guess I'm asking what it was about.) And what about Marino?? I will miss him! Or did he decide to move to Florida also? Surely she's in contact with him by phone, and maybe they visit each other. Or has he died?? (Don't answer that!) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 08:59:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QExm6q009743 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:59:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 75BFF1E6013A; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:56:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42E101E6011C for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:56:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1EF2A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 9:49:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14152996 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:50:00 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QEnxf18172 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:49:59 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-158-42.gwi.net [216.195.158.42]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9QEnwAr087409 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:49:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031026094610.00ba73c0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:50:17 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos In-Reply-To: <3F9BDD55.390D4F38@maynor.net> References: <3F98255C.BF3B90ED@maynor.net> <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <3F988D4B.6F9E8413@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024074207.00b27f20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024141013.00bb0958@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024202727.00bad840@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031026091453.00b47ae8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031026092816.00b94a68@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >When did she get fired?? Was it in this current book you're reading, or >have I missed one? It wasn't in the current book. I don't remember her getting fired either. And I don't know if I missed a book either. I have a feeling that some things happened in between this book and the last that just were left out of the series. In other words, this book picks up some months or a year after the last one and we are being filled in about what happened. I could be wrong. And the firing wasn't described yet in this book. Maybe we did miss a book. >she still take solace in cooking pasta? Do Lucy and her girlfriends >come visit her in Florida? No pasta cooking. And Lucy appears to not have a current girlfriend although she is very much present and active in this book. There was some back history about Lucy quitting the FBI that I also don't remember. >And what about Marino?? I will miss him! Or did he decide to move to >Florida also? Surely she's in contact with him by phone, and maybe they >visit each other. Or has he died?? (Don't answer that!) > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Marino is very much in this book. He's still in Richmond. But they are in contact. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 09:10:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QFA56q009858 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:10:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 547DE1E601EF; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:07:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26B401E601F0 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:07:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1EF68@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 10:00:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14153358 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:00:17 -0500 Received: from web20503.mail.yahoo.com (web20503.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.138]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9QF0Gf19307 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:00:16 -0500 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:00:15 PST Message-ID: <20031026150015.42298.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:00:15 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: my pet [plus aphids and scale] To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031026080644.00b26df0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > There are no poisonous snakes in Maine. But there > are snakes. Some live > across the street in the yard of a woman who is > phobic. I made the mistake > of casually remarking that she might see our little > black cat hunting > snakes over in her yard. Yikes. She turned pale. > But she already knew > about the snakes. bonniev There are no rattlesnakes in Maine? In PA, we only worried about rattlesnakes, and they were in the mountainous areas, the Poconos, etc. My mother used to make pets of garter snakes, they were omnipresent. But, of course, they are harmless. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 09:59:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QFxx6q010154 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:59:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F1D831E601F4; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:57:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFC581E60128 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:57:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1EFC9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 10:50:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14154663 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:50:10 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QFoAf23245 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:50:10 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-175.inebraska.com [206.222.202.175]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9QFo4th014095 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:50:05 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002c01c39bd8$c2613ea0$afcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3F98255C.BF3B90ED@maynor.net> <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <3F988D4B.6F9E8413@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024074207.00b27f20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024141013.00bb0958@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024202727.00bad840@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031026091453.00b47ae8@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: Re: Indians and Casinos Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:49:36 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Where in Florida has she moved? Her mother lived in Miami, iirc. Did > >she move there? No, that wasn't her mother, was it? It was her no-good > >sister, Lucy's mother. But Kay grew up in Miami, didn't she? > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > Yes, Kay grew up in Miami. She is now living in a rented house in Delray > Beach, just far enough north of Miami that she needn't put up with her > deadbeat sister on a daily basis. Her old secretary is still with > her. I'm now on page 132 and it's getting pretty good. A huge > mind-blowing revelation has just been announced. Wow. > > > bonnie What (book, movie) are you girls talking about? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 10:22:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QGMW6q010363 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:22:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D99171E601F6; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:19:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A80B91E601F5 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:19:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1F005@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 11:12:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14155381 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:12:43 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QGChf25225 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:12:43 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-158-42.gwi.net [216.195.158.42]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9QGCfGn024196 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:12:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031026111202.00bae5a0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:12:59 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos In-Reply-To: <002c01c39bd8$c2613ea0$afcadece@0018079268> References: <3F98255C.BF3B90ED@maynor.net> <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <3F988D4B.6F9E8413@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024074207.00b27f20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024141013.00bb0958@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024202727.00bad840@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031026091453.00b47ae8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I'm now on page 132 and it's getting pretty good. A huge > > mind-blowing revelation has just been announced. Wow. > > bonnie > >What (book, movie) are you girls talking about? > - D. M. We women are talking about the book _Blow Fly_ by Patricia Cornwell. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 10:27:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QGRr6q010385 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:27:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C9F411E601F5; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:25:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 974BF1E601F4 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:25:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1F00F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 11:18:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14155484 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:18:04 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QGI4f25667 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:18:04 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-175.inebraska.com [206.222.202.175]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9QGI2th000399 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:18:03 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000d01c39bdc$aa659400$afcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3F98255C.BF3B90ED@maynor.net> <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <3F988D4B.6F9E8413@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024074207.00b27f20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024141013.00bb0958@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024202727.00bad840@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031026091453.00b47ae8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031026111202.00bae5a0@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: Re: Indians and Casinos Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:17:34 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > I'm now on page 132 and it's getting pretty good. A huge > > > mind-blowing revelation has just been announced. Wow. > > > bonnie > > > >What (book, movie) are you girls talking about? > > - D. M. > > We women are talking about the book _Blow Fly_ by Patricia Cornwell. > > > bonnie Thanks, dames. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 10:32:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QGWS6q010450 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:32:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9F6271E601F7; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:29:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E3F91E601F4 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:29:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1F02A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 11:22:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14155625 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:22:40 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QGMef26113 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:22:40 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-158-42.gwi.net [216.195.158.42]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9QGMcAr003090 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:22:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031026112225.00ba9f08@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:22:58 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: my pet [plus aphids and scale] In-Reply-To: <20031026150015.42298.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031026080644.00b26df0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >There are no rattlesnakes in Maine? In PA, we only >worried about rattlesnakes, I guess not. Here's a picture of a really pretty snake someone saw while biking in Acadia: http://members.boardhost.com/snakeseast/msg/1687.html bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 10:33:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QGX76q010455 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:33:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 71C731E601FC; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:30:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4397E1E601F7 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:30:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1F03A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 11:23:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14155654 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:23:19 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QGNIf26189 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:23:18 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-158-42.gwi.net [216.195.158.42]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9QGNHGn025617 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:23:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031026112315.00bc1dd8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:23:37 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos In-Reply-To: <000d01c39bdc$aa659400$afcadece@0018079268> References: <3F98255C.BF3B90ED@maynor.net> <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <3F988D4B.6F9E8413@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024074207.00b27f20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024141013.00bb0958@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024202727.00bad840@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031026091453.00b47ae8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031026111202.00bae5a0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > We women are talking about the book _Blow Fly_ by Patricia Cornwell. > > bonnie > >Thanks, dames. > - D. M. You are very welcome, you big bad broad. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 10:46:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QGkq6q010577 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:46:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7E5331E601F7; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:44:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50C511E6014D for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:44:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1F052@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 11:37:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14156158 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:37:04 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QGb4f27670 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:37:04 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001BDFA9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 11:37:03 -0500 Message-Id: <200310261637.h9QGb4f27670@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:37:03 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: my pet [plus aphids and scale] To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:00:15 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >> There are no poisonous snakes in Maine. But there >> are snakes. Some live >> across the street in the yard of a woman who is >> phobic. I made the mistake >> of casually remarking that she might see our little >> black cat hunting >> snakes over in her yard. Yikes. She turned pale. >> But she already knew >> about the snakes. > >bonniev > >There are no rattlesnakes in Maine? In PA, we only >worried about rattlesnakes, and they were in the >mountainous areas, the Poconos, etc. My mother used >to make pets of garter snakes, they were omnipresent. > >But, of course, they are harmless. > Even rattlesnakes are endangered now, even in the mtns of PA - so much so that they import the ones they hunt at the annual Snake Hunt in Morris. The last time one bit somebody was when the put it in a burlap bag and slung it over his shoulder there. They only come down out of the rocks in severe drought, anyway. I know that they were more plentiful there once, but that hasn't been true since the early '60s. We did have a 4-foot corn snake slither up the wall of our camp kitchen once, during a "women's weekend" there. I know its length because it died soon after in a mowing accident, and we measured it. It was incredibly beautiful, but it did cause quite a stir among women who had never been in the woods before! http://members.aol.com/guttata319/Hawkherp/miami.html btw, this is where out camp is (Leetonia PA): http://tinyurl.com/sf1u clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 10:50:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QGoR6q010608 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:50:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 28F751E601FC; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:47:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E823C1E601F7 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:47:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1F05C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 11:40:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14156242 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:40:38 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QGecf27949 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:40:38 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-175.inebraska.com [206.222.202.175]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9QGeath007987 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:40:37 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000c01c39bdf$d1531080$afcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3F98255C.BF3B90ED@maynor.net> <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <3F988D4B.6F9E8413@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024074207.00b27f20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024141013.00bb0958@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024202727.00bad840@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031026091453.00b47ae8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031026111202.00bae5a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031026112315.00bc1dd8@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: Re: Indians and Casinos Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:40:08 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > >Thanks, dames. > > - D. M. > > You are very welcome, you big bad broad. > > > bonnie ;=) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 11:06:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QH6V6q010730 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:06:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6A7E41E601FC; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:03:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 380CA1E601F7 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:03:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1F079@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 11:56:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14156645 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:56:43 -0500 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9QGugf29161 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:56:42 -0500 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:56:42 PST Message-ID: <20031026165642.72519.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:56:42 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: my pet [plus aphids and scale] To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031026112225.00ba9f08@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I guess not. Here's a picture of a really pretty > snake someone saw while > biking in Acadia: > > http://members.boardhost.com/snakeseast/msg/1687.html Neat! Very pretty, actually, but it says he's an aggressor. Does this mean he has an "attitude" regarding humans? We once had a 3 foot boa constrictor at the Police Dept. She had escaped from her master and was found holed up in one of a series of caves linked to our sink holes. Poor snake, no one would touch her but her master's mother and me. We wanted her back in this box/carrier thing. She was not agreeable. She was completely dry, cool and crisp. The snake lady finally pinched the snake's tail and she scooted into the carrier. The cops regarded me as a leper after I touched the poor snake. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 11:15:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QHFf6q010784 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:15:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CF9D11E601FC; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:12:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C4171E601F4 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:12:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1F0AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 12:05:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14156955 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:05:52 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QH5qf30078 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:05:52 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001BDFC7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 12:05:52 -0500 Message-Id: <200310261705.h9QH5qf30078@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:05:52 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: my pet [plus aphids and scale] To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:56:42 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >> I guess not. Here's a picture of a really pretty >> snake someone saw while >> biking in Acadia: >> >> >http://members.boardhost.com/snakeseast/msg/1687.html > > >Neat! Very pretty, actually, but it says he's an >aggressor. Does this mean he has an "attitude" >regarding humans? > The URL I found for MO Coop Extension said, (and it's been true in my - by no means expert - experience) that the defensive/warning open mouth is often mistaken for aggression when a snake is frightened. Snakes will bite when cornered or picked up, but jeez - I tend to snap when someone grabs my tail too. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 11:46:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QHkK6q011142 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:46:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D34081E601FD; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:43:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A34081E601F4 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:43:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1F0E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 12:36:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14157578 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:36:31 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QHaVf32082 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:36:31 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-158-42.gwi.net [216.195.158.42]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9QHaRGp037003; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:36:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031026123135.00b417b0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:36:23 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: my pet [plus aphids and scale] In-Reply-To: <20031026165642.72519.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031026112225.00ba9f08@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:56 AM 10/26/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >Neat! Very pretty, actually, but it says he's an >aggressor. Does this mean he has an "attitude" >regarding humans? Not necessarily. Most snakes will take some sort of defensive posture when surprised or threatened---head rearing, hissing, etc. There are some, e.g., the common water snake, which do seem to have nasty dispositions, but most, if given the chance, would rather move away than fight. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 12:14:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QIEv6q011383 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:14:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BF2171E601FF; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:12:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F2411E601FD for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:12:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1F12C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 13:05:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14158244 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:04:58 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QI4wf01715 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:04:58 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.133.193]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031026180453.YXQO1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:04:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9C0CC4.C332E528@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:04:52 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Retirement Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU You know, there's really no way to be fully retired. Or I guess there is if you want to ignore or say no to professional colleagues in other places. I have consistently said no since retirement to things like being on programs or submitting publications and have added notes when doing grant-application evaluations for NEH and NSF saying to take me off their lists for future requests, but when somebody asks you to read a paper he's working on or some such, you just can't really say no. I tried to wiggle out of this last request by pointing out that I was not doing any research, was out of touch, uninformed, etc. etc. But he didn't take that to be a no. So I just spent a couple of hours digging through boxes in the junk room to find some articles I co-authored almost twenty years ago, reading them, and writing long e-mail to this European linguist. That was a follow-up to my having read his paper last week and told him that I found it good and that I found what he quoted some Canadian linguists as having said about one of these ancient articles weird -- that it didn't match my memory of it at all. So he wanted me to reread my old article and tell him my thoughts about it. It was easier to dig through the boxes in the junkroom than go find it in the library, so that's what I just did. And I found that my memory was correct -- that we had not said anything nearly so sweeping about the superstratum, substratum, and aspectual system as was claimed. I'm glad that chore is done. Now I need to clean up the house. But I also need to read some of the growing piles of magazines. And I need to dig around in the closet in search of warm clothes. And I need to answer genealogy-related e-mail. And on and on and on. Days are always too short, even when they include an extra hour. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 12:19:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QIJk6q011412 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:19:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A175F1E601FD; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:16:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B2BD1E60154 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:16:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1F147@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 13:09:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14158483 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:09:57 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QI9vf02189 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:09:57 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.133.193]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031026180951.YZBV1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:09:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9C0DEF.C1E54F31@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:09:51 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos References: <3F98255C.BF3B90ED@maynor.net> <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <3F988D4B.6F9E8413@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024074207.00b27f20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024141013.00bb0958@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024202727.00bad840@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031026091453.00b47ae8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031026092816.00b94a68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031026094610.00ba73c0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > >When did she get fired?? Was it in this current book you're reading, or > >have I missed one? > > It wasn't in the current book. I don't remember her getting fired > either. And I don't know if I missed a book either. I have a feeling that > some things happened in between this book and the last that just were left > out of the series. In other words, this book picks up some months or a > year after the last one and we are being filled in about what happened. I > could be wrong. And the firing wasn't described yet in this book. Maybe > we did miss a book. I do remember her having gotten in hot water or on thin ice or whatever at times -- not from anything bad she did but from political goings-on. Maybe that was the case at the end of the last book. I can't remember the last one. > back history about Lucy quitting the FBI that I also don't remember. That definitely rings a bell with me -- something maybe about her having done something in violation of her FBI life because it was for a good cause -- like maybe helping Kay in some way. Yes! I mean no, I don't remember exactly what it was about, but yes, I do remember that she was either fired or decided to quit. She and a woman (her current lover maybe) were going to start some kind of consulting firm or detective firm. Or they did start one, didn't they? And it was a big success. Or maybe it's that they were thinking about starting it and thinking about how it would be a big success. Kay was going to invest in it, I think. > Marino is very much in this book. He's still in Richmond. But they are in > contact. Oh good. I would be very sad without Marino. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 12:22:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QIM66q011418 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:22:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0163A1E601FF; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:19:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C388F1E601FD for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:19:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1F133@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 13:12:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14158538 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:12:16 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QICGf02352 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:12:16 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.133.193]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031026181210.YZRO1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:12:10 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9C0E7A.CD9D603C@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:12:10 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos References: <3F98255C.BF3B90ED@maynor.net> <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <3F988D4B.6F9E8413@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024074207.00b27f20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024141013.00bb0958@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024202727.00bad840@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031026091453.00b47ae8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031026111202.00bae5a0@pop.gwi.net> <000d01c39bdc$aa659400$afcadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > >What (book, movie) are you girls talking about? > > We women are talking about the book _Blow Fly_ by Patricia Cornwell. > Thanks, dames. Except that this whore isn't talking specifically about that book, having not read it yet. Is it out yet in paperback? It would be an excellent airplane book. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 12:36:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QIam6q011523 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:36:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 76D251E60200; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:33:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 443261E601FF for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:33:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1F177@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 13:26:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14158944 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:26:58 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QIQwf03368 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:26:58 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9QIQvW1003232 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:26:57 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9QIQrWq003154; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:26:53 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031026102708.00a48ee0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:28:36 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Retirement In-Reply-To: <3F9C0CC4.C332E528@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:04 PM 10/26/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I'm glad that chore is done. Now I need to clean up the house. But I >also need to read some of the growing piles of magazines. And I need to >dig around in the closet in search of warm clothes. And I need to >answer genealogy-related e-mail. And on and on and on. Days are always >too short, even when they include an extra hour. >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Recycle the magazines and stop ordering them. Save the trees, etc. I came back to the Bay Area last night and it was in the 90's! What the heck? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 12:56:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QIuo6q011695 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:56:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8B42C1E60206; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:53:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 564141E60159 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:53:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1F19E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 13:47:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14159402 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:47:01 -0500 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QIl0f04803 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:47:00 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.171.2581f139 (3948) for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:46:50 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <171.2581f139.2ccd709a@aol.com> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:46:50 EST Subject: Re: Pup in the woods To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/24/2003 9:40:40 PM, stevie@MULTINIX.COM writes: >French toast! Thanks! I can't imagine how I could have forgotten it, but it's been a long time. I think my mother made it in a frying pan with lots of butter, and it was jummy :-) Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 13:06:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QJ6X6q011840 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:06:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DA1661E60206; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:03:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A2781E601FD for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:03:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001BE0C3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 13:56:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14159665 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:56:41 -0500 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QIuff05473 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:56:41 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1dc.13251e3f (3948) for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:56:33 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1dc.13251e3f.2ccd72e1@aol.com> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:56:33 EST Subject: Re: Katzen To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/25/2003 7:46:15 PM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: >At different times, I have seen two cats who were >toilet trained, Before I was born my mother had a cat that was toilet trained she told me about. Whether it also used toilet paper I never found out. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 13:12:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QJCD6q011870 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:12:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4DFB41E601FD; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:09:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C0041E6020A for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:09:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1F1AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 14:02:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14159794 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:02:23 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QJ2Nf05909 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:02:23 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.133.193]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031026190218.KCU1780.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:02:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9C1A39.B393E69B@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:02:17 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Webcam Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I've been meaning to tell y'all ever since I discovered this webcam of the IE Department that you should look at it on Tuesdays or Thursdays about 7:55 or about 9:20 (both a.m.) since I walk right along that sidewalk around those times. I'll try to remind y'all sometime right before leaving for class and will wave or make an obscene gesture or something: http://www.ie.msstate.edu/netcam/netcam.htm -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 13:12:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QJCq6q011874 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:12:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 803901E60206; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:10:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5018F1E601FD for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:10:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1F1AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 14:03:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14159806 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:03:03 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QJ32f05982 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:03:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.133.193]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031026190257.KIG1780.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:02:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9C1A60.6EB0A6C1@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:02:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Retirement References: <4.2.2.20031026102708.00a48ee0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Welcome back, Bad Betty. You were missed. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 13:13:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QJDG6q011878 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:13:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EAC311E6020A; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:10:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA36F1E601FD for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:10:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1F1BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 14:03:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14159816 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:03:26 -0500 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QJ3Qf06038 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:03:26 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.11f.26c149ba (3948) for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:03:10 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <11f.26c149ba.2ccd746e@aol.com> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:03:10 EST Subject: Re: Katzen To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/25/2003 8:40:53 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >Apparently Ugly's human companion doesn't consider it necessary. And >his wish is my command when it's his cat and his house. > It's his house and his cat, so you follow his wishes. I'm just saying that if you had a cat you might not want to let it go unattended for that long. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 13:15:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QJFX6q011914 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:15:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9E8AA1E60206; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:12:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 701801E60155 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:12:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1F1BE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 14:05:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14159857 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:05:44 -0500 Received: from smtp01.nyc.untd.com (outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com [64.136.20.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9QJ5hf06248 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:05:44 -0500 Received: (qmail 7006 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2003 19:05:39 -0000 Received: from 03-123.093.popsite.net (HELO computer) (64.24.154.123) by smtp01.nyc.untd.com with SMTP; 26 Oct 2003 19:05:39 -0000 Message-ID: <005c01c39bf3$971686e0$7b9a1840@computer> From: "bogris01" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3F9AB801.150607D6@maynor.net> Subject: Re: My Goodness Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:01:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I think the electric teevee lies. I just turned it on to see how far > behind we might be by now in today's fb game, and my screen says we're > ahead 17-0. We're playing Kentucky, not exactly a , but for > us to be ahead of anybody this year is pretty amazing. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) In case you missed it, the final score was MSU 17 Suprapower 42. Lurking (and commiserating to a degree), brad From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 13:16:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QJGH6q011919 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:16:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B96431E60206; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:13:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84EC71E601FD for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:13:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1F1C0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 14:06:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14159879 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:06:27 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QJ6Qf06309 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:06:26 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9QJ6PW1027773 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:06:25 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9QJ6NWq027738; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:06:24 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031026110657.00a56160@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:08:06 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Retirement In-Reply-To: <3F9C1A60.6EB0A6C1@maynor.net> References: <4.2.2.20031026102708.00a48ee0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:02 PM 10/26/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Welcome back, Bad Betty. You were missed. Thanks! Did I miss anything exciting? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 13:16:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QJGQ6q011923 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:16:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D566F1E601FD; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:13:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A73C61E60155 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:13:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001BE0D8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 14:06:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14159886 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:06:36 -0500 Received: from fe3.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QJ6Xf06315 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:06:33 -0500 Received: from [136.167.88.199] (HELO bc.edu) by fe3.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.5) with ESMTP id 34601202 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:06:27 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9C1B33.4000406@bc.edu> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:06:27 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Webcam References: <3F9C1A39.B393E69B@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <3F9C1A39.B393E69B@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Check out http://www.bc.edu/webcams and choose O'Neill Plaza from which I will wave to you all in about 15 minutes :-) Rita L. ...typing this at 2:06 EST and letting you all do your own math. Natalie Maynor wrote: >I've been meaning to tell y'all ever since I discovered this webcam of >the IE Department that you should look at it on Tuesdays or Thursdays >about 7:55 or about 9:20 (both a.m.) since I walk right along that >sidewalk around those times. I'll try to remind y'all sometime right >before leaving for class and will wave or make an obscene gesture or >something: > >http://www.ie.msstate.edu/netcam/netcam.htm > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > -- Rita Leonard Information Technology Systems Services O'Neill Library 544 Phone: 617-552-3403 Email: rita.leonard@bc.edu "Whether you believe you can do a thing or not, you are right." Henry Ford From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 13:25:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QJPL6q012017 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:25:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 586241E60206; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:22:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A1D11E601FD for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:22:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1F1CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 14:15:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14160043 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:15:31 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QJFRf06986 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:15:27 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-175.inebraska.com [206.222.202.175]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9QJFMth013312 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:15:25 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000401c39bf5$71475960$afcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <1dc.13251e3f.2ccd72e1@aol.com> Subject: Re: Re: Katzen Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:14:53 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > In a message dated 10/25/2003 7:46:15 PM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: > > >At different times, I have seen two cats who were > >toilet trained, > > Before I was born my mother had a cat that was toilet trained she told me > about. Whether it also used toilet paper I never found out. > Theo > There are some good scenes showing a toilet trained cat in the movie Meet the Parents. That is a very good movie btw, IMO. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 13:36:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QJal6q012124 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:36:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 97B331E60206; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:33:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 666E21E601FD for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:33:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001BE14C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 14:26:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14160278 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:26:57 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QJQuf07812 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:26:56 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9QJQtW1008440 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:26:55 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9QJQsWq008424 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:26:55 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031026112744.00a44530@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:28:36 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Subject: Re: Webcam In-Reply-To: <3F9C1B33.4000406@bc.edu> References: <3F9C1A39.B393E69B@maynor.net> <3F9C1A39.B393E69B@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I think I missed it! Dang. It's 15:21. She should have told us what she was wearing. Betty At 02:06 PM 10/26/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Check out http://www.bc.edu/webcams and choose O'Neill Plaza from which >I will wave to you all in about 15 minutes :-) > >Rita L. ...typing this at 2:06 EST and letting you all do your own math. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 13:43:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QJhI6q012204 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:43:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5AC411E601FD; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:40:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 231A51E60155 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:40:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1F1E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 14:33:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14160460 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:33:25 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QJXOf08384 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:33:24 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9QJXO8b015081 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:33:24 -0500 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9QJXOfC017459 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:33:24 -0500 Message-ID: <02a201c39bf8$0671ecb0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3F9C1A39.B393E69B@maynor.net> <3F9C1A39.B393E69B@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031026112744.00a44530@uclink.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Webcam Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:33:25 -0500 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU She'll be passing that camera often enough... maybe we can get Lisa and Tina to comment on her attire ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty" To: Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 2:28 PM Subject: Re: Webcam > I think I missed it! Dang. It's 15:21. She should have told us what she > was wearing. > > Betty > > At 02:06 PM 10/26/2003 -0500, you wrote: > >Check out http://www.bc.edu/webcams and choose O'Neill Plaza from which > >I will wave to you all in about 15 minutes :-) > > > >Rita L. ...typing this at 2:06 EST and letting you all do your own math. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 13:54:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QJsP6q012353 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:54:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DF1921E60206; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:51:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA4211E60158 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:51:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1F21A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 14:44:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14160743 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:44:35 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QJiZf09136 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:44:35 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9QJiX2f015729 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:44:33 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9QJiVJC015711 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:44:32 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031026114540.00a564e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:46:14 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Subject: Re: Webcam In-Reply-To: <02a201c39bf8$0671ecb0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> References: <3F9C1A39.B393E69B@maynor.net> <3F9C1A39.B393E69B@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031026112744.00a44530@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What is she doing in Boston anyway? Isn't she supposed to be teaching this semester? Where IS Lisa? Betty At 02:33 PM 10/26/2003 -0500, you wrote: >She'll be passing that camera often enough... maybe we can get Lisa and >Tina to comment on her attire ;-) > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Betty" >To: >Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 2:28 PM >Subject: Re: Webcam > > > > I think I missed it! Dang. It's 15:21. She should have told us what she > > was wearing. > > > > Betty > > > > At 02:06 PM 10/26/2003 -0500, you wrote: > > >Check out http://www.bc.edu/webcams and choose O'Neill Plaza from which > > >I will wave to you all in about 15 minutes :-) > > > > > >Rita L. ...typing this at 2:06 EST and letting you all do your own math. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 14:09:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QK926q012581 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:09:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CD2321E6020B; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:06:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC8D1E6020A for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:06:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001BE17C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 14:59:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14161203 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:59:12 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QJxCf10333 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:59:12 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.133.193]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031026195906.HZLM1852.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:59:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9C278A.670F2466@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:59:06 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: My Goodness References: <3F9AB801.150607D6@maynor.net> <005c01c39bf3$971686e0$7b9a1840@computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bogris01 wrote: > In case you missed it, the final score was MSU 17 Suprapower 42. AHA!! Whatever it takes to bring you back is worth it! I'd much rather have you delurk, even briefly, than have a football victory! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 14:10:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QKA36q012595 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:10:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F0B7F1E6020B; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:07:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C24591E6020A for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:07:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1F23F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 15:00:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14161245 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:00:13 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QK0Df10436 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:00:13 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.133.193]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031026200008.IACN1852.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:00:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9C27C7.227A9393@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:00:07 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Webcam References: <3F9C1A39.B393E69B@maynor.net> <3F9C1B33.4000406@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: > > Check out http://www.bc.edu/webcams and choose O'Neill Plaza from which > I will wave to you all in about 15 minutes :-) > > Rita L. ...typing this at 2:06 EST and letting you all do your own math. Well, darnit. That's what I get for rooting around in my closet instead of staying at the computer. I missed you. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 14:10:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QKAr6q012622 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:10:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D26291E6020D; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:08:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A349B1E6020A for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:08:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1F232@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 15:01:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14161257 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:01:03 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QK13f10502 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:01:03 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.133.193]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031026200058.IASK1852.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:00:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9C27F9.A6344EAB@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:00:57 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Retirement References: <4.2.2.20031026102708.00a48ee0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031026110657.00a56160@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > Thanks! Did I miss anything exciting? Snakes and cats and Indians. Probably other things that I can't remember. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 14:12:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QKC26q012637 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:12:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3782C1E6020D; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:09:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 090191E60206 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:09:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1F243@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 15:02:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14161295 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:02:12 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QK2Cf10628 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:02:12 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.133.193]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031026200207.IBPA1852.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:02:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9C283E.AB7AAB50@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:02:06 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Webcam References: <3F9C1A39.B393E69B@maynor.net> <3F9C1A39.B393E69B@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031026112744.00a44530@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031026114540.00a564e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > > What is she doing in Boston anyway? Isn't she supposed to be teaching this > semester? Where IS Lisa? She who? Rita, Lisa, and Tina all live in Boston, don't they? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 14:13:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QKDU6q012673 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:13:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E36AD1E6020B; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:10:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD5C61E60206 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:10:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1F247@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 15:03:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14161331 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:03:40 -0500 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9QK3ef10714 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:03:40 -0500 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:03:39 PST Message-ID: <20031026200339.7154.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:03:39 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Retirement To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031026102708.00a48ee0@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I came back to the Bay Area last night and it was in > the 90's! What the heck? Mexico was a good deal cooler? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 14:15:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QKFH6q012687 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:15:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E08F91E6020D; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:12:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE9331E6020A for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:12:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1F24A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 15:05:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14161378 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:05:27 -0500 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9QK5Rf10844 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:05:27 -0500 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:05:26 PST Message-ID: <20031026200526.9903.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:05:26 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Pup in the woods To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <171.2581f139.2ccd709a@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >French toast! > Thanks! I can't imagine how I could have forgotten > it, but it's been a long > time. I think my mother made it in a frying pan with > lots of butter, and it was > jummy :-) > Theo And even more delicious with grape jam, rather than syrup. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 14:35:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QKZQ6q012958 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:35:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7050E1E6020D; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:32:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D6331E6020B for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:32:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1F265@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 15:25:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14161818 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:25:35 -0500 Received: from fe3.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QKPZf13345 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:25:35 -0500 Received: from [136.167.17.105] (HELO bc.edu) by fe3.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.5) with ESMTP id 34603666 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:25:35 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9C2DBD.6080402@bc.edu> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:25:33 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Webcam References: <3F9C1A39.B393E69B@maynor.net> <3F9C1A39.B393E69B@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031026112744.00a44530@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031026114540.00a564e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3F9C283E.AB7AAB50@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <3F9C283E.AB7AAB50@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hi, I should have told you what I was wearing :-( I did go out with a sign that said "Hello Words-L" but when I got out there I found that some kind of event was being set up under the portico where you couldn't see. There were all kinds of VPs and such there. I just couldn't bring myself to hold up that sign :-) I'll be braver next time. Next time I will give you more warning. This was just a spur of the moment thing because I saw Natalie's message just before I was leaving the office. Alan is correct that I pass that way a lot. That is the building that I work in. Betty, I don't teach. I work in the Information Technology Services area supporting key functions like email! Rita L. (back at home now) Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty wrote: > > >>What is she doing in Boston anyway? Isn't she supposed to be teaching this >>semester? Where IS Lisa? >> >> > >She who? Rita, Lisa, and Tina all live in Boston, don't they? > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 14:48:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QKmr6q013115 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:48:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 607F41E6020B; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:46:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 274431E60123 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:46:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1F28B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 15:39:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14162162 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:39:02 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QKd2f14986 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:39:02 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9QKd12f018655 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:39:01 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9QKcxJC018627; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:38:59 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031026124019.00a56100@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:40:41 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Retirement In-Reply-To: <3F9C27F9.A6344EAB@maynor.net> References: <4.2.2.20031026102708.00a48ee0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031026110657.00a56160@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:00 PM 10/26/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty wrote: > > > Thanks! Did I miss anything exciting? > >Snakes and cats and Indians. Probably other things that I can't >remember. OK. None of those things interest me. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 14:49:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QKnb6q013120 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:49:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 657041E6020B; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:46:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 372661E60206 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:46:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1F2A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 15:39:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14162179 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:39:46 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QKdkf15041 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:39:46 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9QKdj2f019708 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:39:45 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9QKdfJC019660; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:39:42 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031026124058.00a526a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:41:24 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Webcam In-Reply-To: <3F9C283E.AB7AAB50@maynor.net> References: <3F9C1A39.B393E69B@maynor.net> <3F9C1A39.B393E69B@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031026112744.00a44530@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031026114540.00a564e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:02 PM 10/26/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty wrote: > > > > What is she doing in Boston anyway? Isn't she supposed to be teaching this > > semester? Where IS Lisa? > >She who? Rita, Lisa, and Tina all live in Boston, don't they? Ha! I've been away. I was getting my Ritas confused. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 14:50:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QKo26q013124 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:50:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 736AE1E60206; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:47:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 425941E60123 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:47:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1F28C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 15:40:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14162186 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:40:12 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QKeBf15116 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:40:11 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9QKeAW1024772 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:40:10 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9QKe6Wq024742; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:40:07 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031026124132.00a5b600@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:41:48 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Retirement In-Reply-To: <20031026200339.7154.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> References: <4.2.2.20031026102708.00a48ee0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:03 PM 10/26/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > > I came back to the Bay Area last night and it was in > > the 90's! What the heck? > > >Mexico was a good deal cooler? I expected to come back to a good deal cooler. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 14:53:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QKrJ6q013153 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:53:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 25C251E60206; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:50:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E74771E60123 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:50:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1F2A1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 15:43:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14162253 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:43:21 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QKhLf15336 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:43:21 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9QKhJW1027146 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:43:20 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9QKhFWq027115; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:43:16 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031026124446.00a52960@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:44:58 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Webcam In-Reply-To: <3F9C2DBD.6080402@bc.edu> References: <3F9C283E.AB7AAB50@maynor.net> <3F9C1A39.B393E69B@maynor.net> <3F9C1A39.B393E69B@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031026112744.00a44530@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031026114540.00a564e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3F9C283E.AB7AAB50@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It's raining there now! Betty At 03:25 PM 10/26/2003 -0500, Rita Leonard wrote: >Hi, > >I should have told you what I was wearing :-( I did go out with a sign >that said "Hello Words-L" but when I got out there I found that some >kind of event was being set up under the portico where you couldn't >see. There were all kinds of VPs and such there. I just couldn't bring >myself to hold up that sign :-) I'll be braver next time. > >Next time I will give you more warning. This was just a spur of the >moment thing because I saw Natalie's message just before I was leaving >the office. Alan is correct that I pass that way a lot. That is the >building that I work in. Betty, I don't teach. I work in the >Information Technology Services area supporting key functions like email! > >Rita L. (back at home now) > >Natalie Maynor wrote: > >>Betty wrote: >> >> >>>What is she doing in Boston anyway? Isn't she supposed to be teaching this >>>semester? Where IS Lisa? >>> >> >>She who? Rita, Lisa, and Tina all live in Boston, don't they? >> >>-- >>-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) >> From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 14:56:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QKuB6q013173 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:56:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 609DF1E6020B; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:53:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 323301E60206 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:53:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001BE20E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 15:46:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14162361 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:46:20 -0500 Received: from web20503.mail.yahoo.com (web20503.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.138]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9QKkKf15610 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:46:20 -0500 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:46:19 PST Message-ID: <20031026204619.9367.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:46:19 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Retirement To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031026124019.00a56100@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > OK. None of those things interest me. Not even snakes from India who swallow cats? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 15:07:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QL7W6q013218 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:07:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D03721E6020E; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:04:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CF761E60164 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:04:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1F2BF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 15:57:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14162614 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:57:42 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QKvgf16892 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:57:42 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.133.193]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031026205736.RDAQ1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:57:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9C3540.4EB30EFD@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:57:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Retirement References: <4.2.2.20031026102708.00a48ee0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031026110657.00a56160@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031026124019.00a56100@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > >Snakes and cats and Indians. Probably other things that I can't > >remember. > > OK. None of those things interest me. How about aphids and scales? Or Rupert? Or football coaches? Or the whereabouts of Karen and Tushar? Or Dutch dog terminology? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 15:29:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QLTu6q013412 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:29:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0CB361E60164; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:27:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCC571E60163 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:27:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1F31B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 16:20:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14163616 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:20:05 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QLK5f18642 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:20:05 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-158-42.gwi.net [216.195.158.42]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9QLK3Ar045183 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:20:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031026161300.00baefe0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:20:23 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos In-Reply-To: <3F9C0E7A.CD9D603C@maynor.net> References: <3F98255C.BF3B90ED@maynor.net> <003801c399b5$416d0560$afcadece@0018079268> <3F988D4B.6F9E8413@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024074207.00b27f20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024141013.00bb0958@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031024202727.00bad840@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031026091453.00b47ae8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031026111202.00bae5a0@pop.gwi.net> <000d01c39bdc$aa659400$afcadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Doris Markland wrote: > > > >What (book, movie) are you girls talking about? > > > We women are talking about the book _Blow Fly_ by Patricia Cornwell. > > Thanks, dames. > >Except that this whore isn't talking specifically about that book, >having not read it yet. Is it out yet in paperback? It would be an >excellent airplane book. -- Natalie I don't think it is out in paperback. It's 2003. This chaste little ex-nun bought it from The Mystery Guild. www.mysteryguild.com I just got home from The Big Chicken Barn. I got a $35 check for the books I sold them. But there were about 20 books they wouldn't buy. I still had a $14 credit from the last time I sold books. I bought _A Week in Winter_ by Marcia Willet which a friend told me was very good. I bought _Set in Darkness_ by Ian Rankin which was the only Rankin they had. There were no paperback Rankins. The one I bought was hardback and misfiled under regular fiction instead of mysteries. Now I don't know if I should read it or not. Perhaps Marty would want me to start at the beginning and not just jump into a year 2000 Rebus mystery. And I bought a Rita Mae Brown paperback so as to use up the whole $14. I also bought a neato bench for under the windows in the kitchen. It is rustic. It has a green checkerboard painted on it. And I bought a framed print, kind of Americana of two black cats looking at a mouse on a table. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 15:32:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QLWR6q013450 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:32:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D9B751E60211; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:29:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A932F1E60164 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:29:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1F32E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 16:22:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14163671 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:22:36 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QLMaf18822 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:22:36 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.133.193]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031026212230.VDB1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:22:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9C3B16.83AB317B@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:22:30 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Retirement References: <4.2.2.20031026102708.00a48ee0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031026110657.00a56160@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031026124019.00a56100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3F9C3540.4EB30EFD@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > How about aphids and scales? Or Rupert? Or football coaches? Or the > whereabouts of Karen and Tushar? Or Dutch dog terminology? And The White Dog! I found out, btw, that "Take30" is the name of a weekly news show on the student-run tv station. Since it's cable only, I won't be able to see it. They do have "streaming video" on their website, but the streaming is jerky and the voices don't match the sound. I may check it Wednesday for The White Dog anyway. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 15:40:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QLei6q013502 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:40:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C66961E6020E; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:37:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 928501E60164 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:37:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1F346@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 16:30:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14163898 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:30:53 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QLUqf19549 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:30:53 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-158-42.gwi.net [216.195.158.42]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9QLUpGn061134 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:30:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031026163011.00badac8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:31:12 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Webcam In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031026114540.00a564e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <02a201c39bf8$0671ecb0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <3F9C1A39.B393E69B@maynor.net> <3F9C1A39.B393E69B@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031026112744.00a44530@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >What is she doing in Boston anyway? Isn't she supposed to be teaching this >semester? Where IS Lisa? >Betty I don't know where Lisa is. But I heard from her mother today. Jeanne, her mother, recreated the salmon dish that Clyde made for Jeanne when she visited. She said it wasn't quite as good as Clyde's, but quite good nevertheless. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 15:52:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QLq36q013705 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:52:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C8F5F1E60211; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:49:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99E001E60164 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:49:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1F36E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 16:42:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14164162 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:42:12 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QLgBf20300 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:42:12 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9QLgA2f031865 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:42:10 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9QLg8JC031835; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:42:09 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031026134324.00a544e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:43:49 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Retirement In-Reply-To: <20031026204619.9367.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> References: <4.2.2.20031026124019.00a56100@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:46 PM 10/26/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > > OK. None of those things interest me. > >Not even snakes from India who swallow cats? Oh, well, I didn't realize it was that exciting! Better than coyotes. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 15:52:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QLqv6q013711 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:52:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0C4A51E60164; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:50:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D224A1E60163 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:50:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1F369@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 16:43:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14164205 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:43:05 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QLgwf20379 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:42:58 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9QLgvW1001767 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:42:57 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9QLgsWq001746; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:42:55 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031026134403.00a59da0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:44:36 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Retirement In-Reply-To: <3F9C3540.4EB30EFD@maynor.net> References: <4.2.2.20031026102708.00a48ee0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031026110657.00a56160@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031026124019.00a56100@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:57 PM 10/26/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty wrote: > > > >Snakes and cats and Indians. Probably other things that I can't > > >remember. > > > > OK. None of those things interest me. > >How about aphids and scales? Or Rupert? Or football coaches? Or the >whereabouts of Karen and Tushar? Or Dutch dog terminology? Karen and Tushar ran off together? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 16:09:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QM996q013927 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:09:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A1DBA1E60165; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:06:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 671911E60163 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:06:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1F3B2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 16:59:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14164828 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:59:17 -0500 Received: from web20501.mail.yahoo.com (web20501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.136]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9QLxHf21700 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:59:17 -0500 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:59:16 PST Message-ID: <20031026215916.56731.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:59:16 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Retirement To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031026134403.00a59da0@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Betty wrote: > Karen and Tushar ran off together? It seems pointless to try to keep it under wraps any longer. I suspect it has something to do with the person for whom Natalie has been cat-sitting. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 17:49:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QNnJ6q014674 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:49:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 50CA71E6016C; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:46:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E4091E60008 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:46:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1F536@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 18:39:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14168906 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 18:39:27 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QNdRf31989 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 18:39:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.133.193]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031026233922.FRGZ1780.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 18:39:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9C5B29.9756E959@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:39:21 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Retirement References: <4.2.2.20031026102708.00a48ee0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031026110657.00a56160@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031026124019.00a56100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031026134403.00a59da0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > Karen and Tushar ran off together? Yes. I think they were at the Starkville horse park briefly. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 17:50:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9QNoH6q014680 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:50:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7D7F61E60172; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:47:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7411E6016D for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:47:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001BE49F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 18:40:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14168917 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 18:40:25 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9QNePf32050 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 18:40:25 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.133.193]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031026234020.FRRT1780.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 18:40:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9C5B63.11C59205@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:40:19 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Retirement References: <20031026215916.56731.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > Karen and Tushar ran off together? > > It seems pointless to try to keep it under wraps any > longer. I suspect it has something to do with the > person for whom Natalie has been cat-sitting. They probably met one of his accomplices at the horse park. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 18:33:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9R0XJ6q015208 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 18:33:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B2BCD1E60224; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 18:30:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E8AE1E60222 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 18:30:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1F598@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 19:23:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14169919 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 19:23:27 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9R0NQf03814 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 19:23:26 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-158-42.gwi.net [216.195.158.42]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9R0NPAr074864 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 19:23:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031026192007.00bc1dd8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 19:23:45 -0500 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: bonniev Subject: Natalie: Misery Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I forgot to report that I did indeed scan the last few pages of the novel, Misery, while at The Big Chicken Barn. But I forgot what you wanted to know. The author got out of the home by throwing something threw a window and alerting the passing police, the same pair that checked the house previously, that there was something wrong. They found him. The officers commented that they never saw anybody look in such bad shape and still be alive. One of them also said something about the author had the same haunted look that some guy he once saw after 21 days of solitary confinement had. There is something about six months later and the author's legs had to be rebroken and set. And something about finding the mad woman dead in the barn with her axe. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 19:06:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9R16D6q015514 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 19:06:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F3BBD1E60232; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 19:03:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDE561E60224 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 19:03:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1F5F5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 19:56:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14171075 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 19:56:21 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9R0uKf06759 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 19:56:20 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.133.193]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031027005615.LWUY1852.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 19:56:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9C6D2F.F1B6C357@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 18:56:15 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie: Misery References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031026192007.00bc1dd8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > The author got out of the home by throwing something threw a window > and alerting the passing police, the same pair that checked the house > previously, that there was something wrong. They found him. But the sheriff was dead! The crazy woman killed him. > The officers > commented that they never saw anybody look in such bad shape and still be > alive. One of them also said something about the author had the same > haunted look that some guy he once saw after 21 days of solitary > confinement had. What did they think about the dead sheriff? Maybe that part wasn't in the book. > There is something about six months later and the author's legs had to be > rebroken and set. And something about finding the mad woman dead in the > barn with her axe. Hmm. In the movie she was right there on top of Paul until he tossed her dead body off. It was at that point that the movie hopped ahead by a number of years to end with Paul, walking with a cane, meeting his agent at a restaurant and talking about the book he had just written -- and his enigmatic comment about having learned something from the time spent with the crazy woman -- and then his imagining that the waitress was the crazy woman. Thank you for looking at it and reporting!! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 19:28:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9R1S46q015764 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 19:28:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BB5EB1E60232; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 19:25:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 863CE1E60230 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 19:25:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A1F650@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 20:18:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14171730 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 20:18:12 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9R1IBf08647 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 20:18:11 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-158-42.gwi.net [216.195.158.42]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9R1I3Ar084256 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 20:18:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031026201613.00bae5a0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 20:18:24 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Natalie: Misery In-Reply-To: <3F9C6D2F.F1B6C357@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031026192007.00bc1dd8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Hmm. In the movie she was right there on top of Paul until he tossed >her dead body off. -- Natalie The book must have been different. Because what I was reading was how Paul was sure that she was still alive and keep yelling at the two sheriffs or deputies that they had to look for her. When they came back and said there was no crazy woman dead in the house, Paul screamed and fainted. I was guessing that was because he thought she really was still alive or that maybe he had dreamed the whole thing. So he was relieved when they found the body in the hen house. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 20:43:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9R2hB6q016406 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 20:43:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AA48C1E6017D; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 20:40:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C9CF1E60176 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 20:40:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1F73C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 21:33:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14174163 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 21:33:18 -0500 Received: from web20509.mail.yahoo.com (web20509.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.144]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9R2XIf16416 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 21:33:18 -0500 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20509.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 18:33:17 PST Message-ID: <20031027023317.47638.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 18:33:17 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Natalie: Misery To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031026192007.00bc1dd8@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote:alive. There is something about six months later and the author's legs had to be rebroken and set. And something about finding the mad woman dead in the barn with her axe. Really, someone should make a movie about this case. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 21:22:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9R3Ma6q016918 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 21:22:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1A4961E60246; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 21:19:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D980B1E6023A for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 21:19:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1F78B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 22:12:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14175173 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:12:43 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9R3Cgf19586 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:12:42 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.133.193]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031027031237.MMCH1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:12:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9C8D25.EACAA58C@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 21:12:37 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie: Misery [and pres debate] References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031026192007.00bc1dd8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031026201613.00bae5a0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > >Hmm. In the movie she was right there on top of Paul until he tossed > >her dead body off. -- Natalie > > The book must have been different. Because what I was reading was how Paul > was sure that she was still alive and keep yelling at the two sheriffs or > deputies that they had to look for her. When they came back and said there > was no crazy woman dead in the house, Paul screamed and fainted. I was > guessing that was because he thought she really was still alive or that > maybe he had dreamed the whole thing. So he was relieved when they found > the body in the hen house. He did think she was dead before she really was -- in the movie, I mean. She lunged upon him after he thought he had killed her. But then it appeared that he had really killed her -- her body seemed quite dead when he shoved it off of where it had fallen on top of him. I can see, though, how the book and movie might not really be contradictory. The movie jumped from his shoving the seemingly dead body off to the meeting with the agent years later. The part about the hen house was just left out. I do wonder about the law enforcement people, though, since the old man who got killed had said in the beginning that he was the sheriff, the police commissioner, the whatever whatever -- iow, he was the only law official in town except for his deputy wife. There was a helicopter scene when he and somebody else were flying around looking for stuff -- another man -- not his deputy wife. That man was presumably a law-enforcement person from elsewhere. Maybe he came back. The movie was on again tonight. When I turned on the tv to look for the presidential debate, it was on -- on the same channel as last night -- Oxygen. It was the scene where he was inviting her to have dinner with him -- when he was going to try to poison her. The pres debate was interesting. This was only the second full one I've seen, the first one having been eons ago. I saw part of another one sometime along the line. This was the first time I'd seen Wesley Clark. I had hoped to find him more impressive, even though I had some big question marks about him based on the reading I've done about him. The question marks grew larger rather than smaller tonight. I would certainly support him if he became the candidate, but I must say that he struck me tonight as the weakest of the whole group. He said basically nothing and didn't even say the nothing very well. I found myself liking Carol Mosely Braun very much. I liked what she said as much as I liked what Dean said. They were my two favorites. I liked what Kucinich said also -- liked him best in some of his specificity. The bottom, imho, were Gephardt, Lieberman, and Clark. I dislike Howard Dean's facial expressions, btw. Don't know whether I've mentioned that before. He has what is not unlike a Dubyaesque smirk. But I like his views and seeming integrity. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 21:31:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9R3VI6q017042 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 21:31:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CA66B1E6024A; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 21:28:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931691E6017A for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 21:28:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1F7A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 22:21:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14175340 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:21:25 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9R3LOf20486 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:21:24 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.133.193]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031027032119.MOHE1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:21:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9C8F2F.A7E6E289@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 21:21:19 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie: Misery [and pres debate] References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031026192007.00bc1dd8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031026201613.00bae5a0@pop.gwi.net> <3F9C8D25.EACAA58C@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > bottom, imho, were Gephardt, Lieberman, and Clark. And Kerry. He was pretty sad, imho. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 26 22:02:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9R4226q017247 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:02:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CC5B41E60258; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 21:59:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 984A01E60185 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 21:59:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1F820@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Oct 2003 22:52:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14176485 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:52:09 -0500 Received: from web20503.mail.yahoo.com (web20503.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.138]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9R3q8f23340 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:52:08 -0500 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 19:52:07 PST Message-ID: <20031027035207.64571.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 19:52:07 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Natalie: Misery [and pres debate] To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F9C8F2F.A7E6E289@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > bottom, imho, were Gephardt, Lieberman, and Clark. > > And Kerry. He was pretty sad, imho. Foot! I knew it was going to on and intended to watch, then forgot all about it. I guess I'll have other chances. Do you think Mr. Dean needs a drama coach, or what? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 03:47:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9R9lR6q020486 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 03:47:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8AEFE1E6027A; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 03:44:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59D551E60279 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 03:44:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A1FFA1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 4:37:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14193168 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 04:37:31 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9R9bUf25469 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 04:37:30 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:39:09 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id VR1BMZDM; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:39:04 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031027103505.01b9d880@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:37:09 +0100 Subject: Re: Katzen Report In-Reply-To: <41.3595628e.2ccaf8ca@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 17:51 24.10.2003 -0400 skrev Theo Groothof: >In a message dated 10/24/2003 6:58:59 AM, maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU writes: > >>Es geht den Katzen gut. > >Das ist wunderbar. Aber es ist "die Katzen". Entschuldigung.;-} >Theo But, but ... My German may have become rusty but I would belive that "den Katzen" was a dative for an indirect object. As in for instance: "Es geht mir gut" and not "*Es geht mich gut" or "*Es geht ich gut". Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 03:49:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9R9nv6q020493 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 03:49:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 18F901E6027D; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 03:46:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6CD91E60279 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 03:46:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A1FFA1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 4:40:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14193273 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 04:40:01 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9R9e0f25676 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 04:40:00 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:41:39 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id VR1BMZ1G; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:41:28 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031027103938.01ba7220@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:39:48 +0100 Subject: Re: well well wel In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 18:04 24.10.2003 -0500 skrev Anne Toal: >I'm humming that phrase "well well well" because I'm getting better. When >they stuck the needle in my kidney yesterday, they pulled out a large amount >of pus. Which might have been scary if I hadn't first been told I might have >a life threatening illness, but which sounded like the best news in the >world at the time. So now I'm spending a few days in the hospital with a >drain hanging out of my kidney and taking strong antibiotics. It's a darn >sight better outcome than I was afraid of. Thanks to everyone for all the >positive energy and thoughts. Hurray! Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 05:17:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RBHo6q021432 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 05:17:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 050CB1E60280; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 05:11:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA6A81E6027F for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 05:11:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001BEFF5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 6:04:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14195243 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 06:04:02 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RB41f31196 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 06:04:01 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.169.110]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031027110356.RTNL1852.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 06:03:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9CFB9C.B54836C7@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 05:03:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie: Misery [and pres debate] References: <20031027035207.64571.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Do you think Mr. Dean needs a drama coach, or what? To undo his smirky smile? I think it's innate. And if he gets the nomination, then we'll have a race between smirky smiles. I'll vote for his. Meanwhile, I've committed myself to go to breakfast with the Gov after all (the Gov of Mississippi, that is, not the former Gov of Vermont). A friend called me last night to say they were trying to round up people for the event because they were worried there might not be a big enough crowd. I don't really want to go because the morning will be more complicated with that 7 a.m. event inserted between cat-care and getting to campus, but I said I'd be there. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 05:18:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RBIW6q021461 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 05:18:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 36A831E6027F; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 05:15:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04DA61E600C0 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 05:15:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A200A1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 6:08:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14195355 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 06:08:36 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RB8Zf31409 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 06:08:36 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.169.110]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031027110830.RTXK1852.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 06:08:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9CFCAE.C012A216@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 05:08:30 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Katzen Report References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031027103505.01b9d880@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen Ore wrote: > >>Es geht den Katzen gut. > > > >Das ist wunderbar. Aber es ist "die Katzen". Entschuldigung.;-} > >Theo > > But, but ... > My German may have become rusty but I would belive that "den Katzen" was a dative for an indirect object. As in for instance: "Es geht mir gut" and not "*Es geht mich gut" or "*Es geht ich gut". That is my understanding -- that "den" is the dative marker -- that the literal translation would be something like "It goes well for the cats." Is it significant, btw, that yesterday afternoon Ugly did not come into the kitchen but instead sat in the hall nearby meowing loudly? I saw her, so I know she's ok, but why the loud meowing? What was she trying to tell me? Was it a greeting or a protest or what? I don't understand cat communication very well. The outdoor cat seems to be spending time on the screened porch in this wettish weather. He, as usual, almost knocked the food bag out of my hand in his enthusiasm for the upcoming meal. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 05:34:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RBYx6q021676 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 05:34:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B43991E601A5; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 05:32:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82EF21E600C0 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 05:32:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A200C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 6:25:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14195639 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 06:25:02 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RBP2f32450 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 06:25:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.169.110]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031027112457.OCGI1780.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 06:24:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9D0088.ADF04D5@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 05:24:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Maybe a Tiny Bit of Damage Control Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I still think that Barbara Blackmon (my candidate for Lt Gov) blew it with the abortion thing, but this column in today's paper might help a tiny bit: http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0310/26/lminor.html I realize that very few, if any, of you are likely to be interested in the LtGov race in Mississippi, but since we have discussed the abortion comments, I thought I'd toss in this url. And talking about sleazy, our Gov race is nothing but mud-slinging. The Green Party candidate is almost certainly going to get some extra votes from people who are totally disgusted by the mud flying between the two mainstream candidates. The sad part is that both of them are competent and have some good things going for them. But their ads say nothing about their own accomplishments and credentials because they're too busy talking about the other candidate -- full of distortions and innuendoes (on both sides). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 06:00:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RC0B6q021945 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 06:00:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 160FC1E6027F; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 05:57:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC3B21E601A6 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 05:57:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A200FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 6:50:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14150162 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 06:50:14 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RBoEf01536 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 06:50:14 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:51:52 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id VR1BMZ7K; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:51:39 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031027124603.01b554d8@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:49:58 +0100 Subject: Re: Katzen Report In-Reply-To: <3F9CFCAE.C012A216@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031027103505.01b9d880@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 05:08 27.10.2003 -0600 skrev Natalie Maynor: >Is it significant, btw, that yesterday afternoon Ugly did not come into >the kitchen but instead sat in the hall nearby meowing loudly? I saw >her, so I know she's ok, but why the loud meowing? What was she trying >to tell me? Was it a greeting or a protest or what? I don't understand >cat communication very well. The outdoor cat seems to be spending time >on the screened porch in this wettish weather. He, as usual, almost >knocked the food bag out of my hand in his enthusiasm for the upcoming >meal. I believe she wants things to be different: that the cat owner should be at home and able to open the door for her when she wishes. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 07:14:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RDEM6q022508 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 07:14:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B77831E60282; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 07:11:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 893DF1E601AF for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 07:11:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A201E9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 8:04:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14152646 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:04:24 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RD4Nf28586 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:04:24 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-175.inebraska.com [206.222.202.175]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9RD4Lth020232 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 07:04:22 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <003101c39c8a$c4347d20$afcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Spam Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 07:03:49 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h9RDEM6q022508 I want to know if this is happening to anyone else. Despite all my ISP's good spam controls there is one thing I get consistently, some days several of them. The email gives an individual's name as the sender (This morning one from Rupert Velez and one from Merrill Guerra: yesterday from Joey Gilmore and Riva Turner). As Subject it gives a string of letters. This morning's were zivvrzcagy and xvlvojb. Then there is no message. Just a blank page. This has been going on for some time. I don't know who sends these blank messages or what they have to gain. Ideas? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 07:24:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RDOW6q022600 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 07:24:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DEAAC1E601AF; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 07:21:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB91A1E601AC for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 07:21:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001BF170@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 8:14:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14153104 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:14:34 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RDEYf29956 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:14:34 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-33.gwi.net [216.195.156.33]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9RDEWAr055869 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:14:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031027081404.00b26ab0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:14:54 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Katzen Report In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031027124603.01b554d8@localhost> References: <3F9CFCAE.C012A216@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031027103505.01b9d880@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Is it significant, btw, that yesterday afternoon Ugly did not come into > >the kitchen but instead sat in the hall nearby meowing loudly? I saw > >her, so I know she's ok, but why the loud meowing? What was she trying > >to tell me? Was it a greeting or a protest or what? >I believe she wants things to be different: that the cat owner should be >at home and able to open the door for her when she wishes. --Espen I agree. It was Ugly's way of saying "Service has gone to hell around here." bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 08:00:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RE056q022995 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:00:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E48081E60283; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 07:57:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B224F1E601AF for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 07:57:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A20307@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 8:50:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14155492 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:50:07 -0500 Received: from fe1.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RDo7f04067 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:50:07 -0500 Received: from [136.167.88.199] (HELO bc.edu) by fe1.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.5) with ESMTP id 35639571 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:50:02 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9D228A.9010304@bc.edu> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:50:02 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Katzen Report References: <3F9CFCAE.C012A216@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031027103505.01b9d880@localhost> <5.2.1.1.0.20031027081404.00b26ab0@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031027081404.00b26ab0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: >> >Is it significant, btw, that yesterday afternoon Ugly did not come into >> >the kitchen but instead sat in the hall nearby meowing loudly? I saw >> >her, so I know she's ok, but why the loud meowing? What was she trying >> >to tell me? Was it a greeting or a protest or what? >> I believe she wants things to be different: that the cat owner should be >> at home and able to open the door for her when she wishes. --Espen > > > I agree. It was Ugly's way of saying "Service has gone to hell around > here." > > > bonnie I think she may want a hug! Something about her life is and she needs reassurance that she will be O.K. Rita L. -- Rita Leonard Information Technology Systems Services O'Neill Library 544 Phone: 617-552-3403 Email: rita.leonard@bc.edu "Whether you believe you can do a thing or not, you are right." Henry Ford From owner-words-l*words-l**GTOAL*-COM@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 08:04:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RE4E6q023035 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:04:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9C1791E60284; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:01:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D0D11E601AF for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:01:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2032C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 8:54:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14155864 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:54:16 -0500 Received: from fe3.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RDsGf04919 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:54:16 -0500 Received: from [136.167.88.199] (HELO bc.edu) by fe3.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.5) with ESMTP id 34641464 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:54:16 -0400 Message-ID: <3F9D2388.2040207@bc.edu> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:54:16 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Spam References: <003101c39c8a$c4347d20$afcadece@0018079268> In-Reply-To: <003101c39c8a$c4347d20$afcadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU If the evidence of similar messages in my mailbox is any indication, you are in that the penis enlargement advertisements have been removed from the body of the message. I cannot explain why the header info was sent on to you. Rita L. Doris Markland wrote: >I want to know if this is happening to anyone else. >Despite all my ISP's good spam controls there is >one thing I get consistently, some days several of >them. > >The email gives an individual's name as the sender >(This morning one from Rupert Velez and one from >Merrill Guerra: yesterday from Joey Gilmore and >Riva Turner). As Subject it gives a string of letters. >This morning's were zivvrzcagy and xvlvojb. >Then there is no message. Just a blank page. > >This has been going on for some time. I don't know >who sends these blank messages or what they have to >gain. Ideas? > > - D. M. > > -- Rita Leonard Information Technology Systems Services O'Neill Library 544 Phone: 617-552-3403 Email: rita.leonard@bc.edu "Whether you believe you can do a thing or not, you are right." Henry Ford From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 08:33:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9REXf6q023333 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:33:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 51F8A1E60285; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:30:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 236D81E60284 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:30:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001BF3D0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 9:23:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14159094 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:23:42 -0500 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9RENgf11229 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:23:42 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 06:23:41 PST Message-ID: <20031027142341.28266.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 06:23:41 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Maybe a Tiny Bit of Damage Control To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F9D0088.ADF04D5@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > I still think that Barbara Blackmon (my candidate > for Lt Gov) blew it > with the abortion thing, but this column in today's > paper might help a > tiny bit: > > http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0310/26/lminor.html Having one reporter making comments from this perspective may be indicative of a slight swing, although I would worry about the timing being off. The Green > Party candidate is > almost certainly going to get some extra votes from > people who are > totally disgusted by the mud flying between the two > mainstream > candidates. The sad part is that both of them are > competent and have > some good things going for them. But their ads say > nothing about their > own accomplishments and credentials because they're > too busy talking > about the other candidate -- full of distortions and > innuendoes (on both > sides). I thought the Green Party guy was the one who got rowdy at the debate. Is he perceived as having had grounds for acting out? Nobody seems to campaign on issues or character any more. Name-calling and finger-pointing like three-year olds seem to have displaced any attempt to portray facts - at all levels. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 08:38:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9REc56q023366 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:38:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 439431E60284; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:35:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10DD41E601B9 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:35:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A204A1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 9:28:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14159382 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:28:07 -0500 Received: from web20503.mail.yahoo.com (web20503.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.138]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9RES6f11905 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:28:06 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 06:28:05 PST Message-ID: <20031027142805.89131.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 06:28:05 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Spam To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <003101c39c8a$c4347d20$afcadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > I want to know if this is happening to anyone else. > Despite all my ISP's good spam controls there is > one thing I get consistently, some days several of > them. > > The email gives an individual's name as the sender > (This morning one from Rupert Velez and one from > Merrill Guerra: yesterday from Joey Gilmore and > Riva Turner). As Subject it gives a string of > letters. > This morning's were zivvrzcagy and xvlvojb. > Then there is no message. Just a blank page. > > This has been going on for some time. I don't know > who sends these blank messages or what they have to > gain. Ideas? I get these occasionally and just delete them. Since I know so little about this stuff, it doesn't bother me. To me, they are the "seeums" of cyber life. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 08:38:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9REc76q023369 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:38:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A3C391E60286; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:35:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 739681E60285 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:35:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A204A2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 9:28:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14159392 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:28:09 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RES9f11929 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:28:09 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9RES88b003819 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:28:08 -0500 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9RES8fC015522 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:28:08 -0500 Message-ID: <037f01c39c96$8b11e8a0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3F9BD9A1.4C61A131@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Heavens Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:28:08 -0500 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" > I never lock my car doors when driving. The vast majority of the > respondents to this question said that they do. Maybe I should do so > when I'm driving in Jackson next weekend. > > ******* > Carjackings in Jackson are up roughly 30 percent from this time last > year. As of Aug. 31, there had been 145 carjackings reported this year, > compared with 116 at that time last year. Do you keep your doors locked > while driving? > ******* > from: http://www.clarionledger.com/ > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Hi Natalie... here's what a friend of mine, former LEO, and firearms expert says about the issue (edited for legibility :) "The car jackings here in New Orleans are occurring when the victim is getting in or out of the car... Some have been when the victim was in the car - just starting or just parking. The timing has been when you go to unlock your door - you are looking on the key in the lock or when you are getting out and getting your stuff out of the car. Try to get her (that's you Natalie :) in the routine of looking around when going to the car and when unlocking the door. Then when you get in the car lock the doors and start the engine and get moving. Some have been at the ATM machines. Last week a lady did get the drop on one. NOPD was on the TV telling folks not to take matters in their own hands.... http://www.theneworleanschannel.com/news/2579197/detail.html *** I hope this gives you some ideas on how to cope with the threat... I'll bet noone wouldn't mess with you if you sported a friendly little 150 pound rottweiler. Your pal... 'Al *** 'Segment from _Rottweiler Blues_, by Zevon (edited) Halogen lights in the driveway Guardian Angels living next door One hundred pounds of unfriendly persuasion Sleeping on the floor of the porch Slackers in the market Bangers in the mall Skinheads on the golf course Hunting for their boss If you come calling He'll be mauling with intent to maim Don't knock on my door If you don't know my Rottweiler's name From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 08:39:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9REdZ6q023376 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:39:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 601361E60286; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:36:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3104D1E60285 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:36:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A204BE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 9:29:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14159502 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:29:37 -0500 Received: from web20513.mail.yahoo.com (web20513.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9RETaf12121 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:29:37 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20513.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 06:29:33 PST Message-ID: <20031027142933.5714.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 06:29:33 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Katzen Report To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031027081404.00b26ab0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >I believe she wants things to be different: that > the cat owner should be > >at home and able to open the door for her when she > wishes. --Espen > > I agree. It was Ugly's way of saying "Service has > gone to hell around here." Ah! I bet Natalie forgot to leave a mint on Ugly's pillow. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 10:26:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RGQ96q024367 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:26:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4357D1E6028C; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:23:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 140FF1E6028B for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:23:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A20910@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:16:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14169792 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:16:10 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RGG7f02252 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:16:07 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9RGFaW1022507 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:15:36 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9RGFZWq022497 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:15:36 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031027081218.00a57430@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:12:41 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: well well wel In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031027103938.01ba7220@localhost> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:39 AM 10/27/2003 +0100, you wrote: >18:04 24.10.2003 -0500 skrev Anne Toal: > >I'm humming that phrase "well well well" because I'm getting better. When > >they stuck the needle in my kidney yesterday, they pulled out a large amount > >of pus. Which might have been scary if I hadn't first been told I might have > >a life threatening illness, but which sounded like the best news in the > >world at the time. So now I'm spending a few days in the hospital with a > >drain hanging out of my kidney and taking strong antibiotics. It's a darn > >sight better outcome than I was afraid of. Thanks to everyone for all the > >positive energy and thoughts. > >Hurray! > >Espen Oh, my goodness, yes! I had no idea. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 11:04:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RH4N6q024759 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:04:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A90FE1E6028D; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:01:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 542EC1E601CA for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:01:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A20AE6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:54:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14172925 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:54:24 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RGiNf08036 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:44:23 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9RGhsPi013653 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:43:54 -0500 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:44:22 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Monaco In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU For Monaco details, see http://www.monaco-saltlakecity.com/ Anytime in the future that I am in a city with a Hotel Monaco, I shall try to stay there. It was the most satisfying hotel experience I have ever had. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 11:40:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RHeJ6q025134 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:40:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0E7DC1E60291; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:37:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B40D31E6028E for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:37:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A20CC6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:30:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14177114 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:30:19 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RHKIf16142 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:20:19 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <46BXGK0K>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:20:13 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B775F0@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU'" Subject: Greetings & Salutations (10+ years later) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:20:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I've found my way back to the list - at least ten years later ('91, '92?). Two (actually, one) of my predictions regarding common English have not taken place but continue to sidle: "this morning" and "this afternoon" becoming "the smorning" and "the safternoon". I've noticed this to be particularly true of talking heads (the fluffier, the better; hence "...he killed him to death..." as an example of local newscasters). One thing I'm really back for is help - to scratch an itch. I noticed the archives don't go back far enough, but at one time, I described a word form but applied neither a name nor an example. I've put both off for many years (but occasionally thought about it) but I've returned with both: 'palindromic anagram': a word which has elements of both. the palindromic element uses letters in both the front and back halves but they (each half) are scrambled, hence the anagram. The one example I've scratched up: Barbra. Suggestions on finding more? Cheers, phil P.S. Did anyone find out who the elusive Mr. Stoud was? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 11:55:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RHtd6q025324 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:55:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ED78D1E60291; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:52:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8FFC1E60290 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:52:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A20D3C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:45:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14179619 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:45:30 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RHjTf21875 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:45:30 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003102717452201300hd0p6e>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:45:22 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031027083424.03c4f0f8@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:45:38 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Spam In-Reply-To: <003101c39c8a$c4347d20$afcadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland writes, >This has been going on for some time. I don't know >who sends these blank messages or what they have to >gain. Ideas? I used to wonder, too. Now with the personal spam filter I'm using, POPFile, I don't look at spam bodies much anymore. Sometimes a message looks blank because they've screwed up the message format such that it comes through in some email clients, but not all. Otherwise, it might be that they're looking for bounces, testing a mail relay, or it might be a bug in the spam program. On a perhaps related note, it's not uncommon for normal spam to contain "web bugs." Perhaps some of the blank bodies are nothing but a web bug. Web bugs are small invisible images with a coded address that your mailer downloads over the web as it's building the message display. When your mailer downloads them, your address is confirmed as good, and the sender knows you've received the email. I avoid them by using Eudora and telling it to use its internal HTML viewer instead of using an embedded Internet Explorer viewer, because its internal viewer doesn't know how to load images. Hopefully some of the newer mailers are starting to allow you to disable web bugs, and there are also some web bug filters, although I haven't tried any. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 12:17:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RIHP6q025569 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:17:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8B4F11E60291; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:14:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F8651E6028E for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:14:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A20E2F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:07:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14181924 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:07:26 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RI7Pf26382 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:07:25 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-190.gwi.net [216.195.157.190]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9RI7OAr014970 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:07:24 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031027130654.00b95208@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:07:47 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Monaco In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >http://www.monaco-saltlakecity.com/ > >Anytime in the future that I am in a city with a Hotel Monaco, I shall try >to stay there. It was the most satisfying hotel experience I have ever >had. --Bethany That's very, very nice. Let's have the next fest in Chicago and make the Hotel Monaco there our headquarters, even though I doubt that it is located in Tushar's neighborhood. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 12:19:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RIJI6q025588 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:19:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 052C31E6028E; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:16:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62A751E60291 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:16:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001BFBDC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:09:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14182054 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:09:17 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RI9Df26601 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:09:17 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <46BXGLKC>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:09:07 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B775F8@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:09:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Peter Kaminski [mailto:kaminski@ISTORI.COM] >Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 12:46 PM >Doris Markland writes, > >>This has been going on for some time. I don't know >>who sends these blank messages or what they have to >>gain. Ideas? > >I used to wonder, too. Now with the personal spam filter I'm using, >POPFile, I don't look at spam bodies much anymore. Spammers will frequently want to know how "fresh" their lists are, even if nothing more than for selling purposes, so they send out what amounts to a "ping". The other reason may because they are new to their spamware and accidentally hit the [Return] button too soon and everyone got the result of their failure. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 12:42:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RIgL6q025782 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:42:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D57571E60295; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:39:19 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E11A1E60294 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:39:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A20F0D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:32:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14182829 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:32:21 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RIMLf28582 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:22:21 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9RILqPi013821 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:21:52 -0500 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:22:20 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Monaco In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031027130654.00b95208@pop.gwi.net> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031027130654.00b95208@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, bonniev wrote: >That's very, very nice. Let's have the next fest in Chicago and make the >Hotel Monaco there our headquarters, even though I doubt that it is located >in Tushar's neighborhood. Cool! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 12:44:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RIiL6q025791 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:44:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 05C691E60294; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:41:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 667551E60291 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:41:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A20F0C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:34:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14183878 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:34:21 -0500 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RIYKf30820 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:34:20 -0500 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9A2962F for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:34:19 -0500 (EST) From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Greetings & Salutations (10+ years later) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:34:20 -0500 Message-ID: <005501c39cb8$ef7f03a0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B775F0@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Welcome back! Alec -----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Phil Paxton >Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 12:20 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Greetings & Salutations (10+ years later) > > >I've found my way back to the list - at least ten years later >('91, '92?). >Two (actually, one) of my predictions regarding common English have not >taken place but continue to sidle: "this morning" and "this afternoon" >becoming "the smorning" and "the safternoon". I've noticed this to be >particularly true of talking heads (the fluffier, the better; >hence "...he >killed him to death..." as an example of local newscasters). > >One thing I'm really back for is help - to scratch an itch. I >noticed the >archives don't go back far enough, but at one time, I >described a word form >but applied neither a name nor an example. I've put both off >for many years >(but occasionally thought about it) but I've returned with both: > > 'palindromic anagram': a word which has elements of both. the >palindromic element uses letters in both the front and back >halves but they >(each half) are scrambled, hence the anagram. The one example I've >scratched up: Barbra. > >Suggestions on finding more? > >Cheers, > >phil > >P.S. > >Did anyone find out who the elusive Mr. Stoud was? > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 12:46:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RIk06q025800 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:46:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B37C91E60294; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:42:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF90D1E60291 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:42:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A20F0D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:35:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14184015 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:35:59 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RIZwf31028 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:35:58 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-190.gwi.net [216.195.157.190]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9RIZuGn000715 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:35:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031027133519.00b97e28@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:36:19 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Monaco In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031027130654.00b95208@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031027130654.00b95208@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >That's very, very nice. Let's have the next fest in Chicago and make the > >Hotel Monaco there our headquarters, even though I doubt that it is located > >in Tushar's neighborhood. > >Cool! --Bethany We could all bring our pets. I notice there is a doggie or cat treat at turn down! I wonder what Maria would get. A carrot? bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 12:51:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RIp86q025852 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:51:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BAECA1E60294; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:48:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E71091E60291 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:48:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A20F4F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:41:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14184374 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:41:02 -0500 Received: from web20501.mail.yahoo.com (web20501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.136]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9RIf1f31795 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:41:01 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:40:02 PST Message-ID: <20031027184002.53551.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:40:02 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Monaco To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > For Monaco details, see > > http://www.monaco-saltlakecity.com/ > > Anytime in the future that I am in a city with a > Hotel Monaco, I shall try > to stay there. It was the most satisfying hotel > experience I have ever > had. Did you bring the goldfish home with you? Can we name him after Balboa Snake? Tell about the grand hotel. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 12:55:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RIto6q025907 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:55:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4060F1E60296; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:52:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A8B1E60294 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:52:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A20F5C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:45:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14184765 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:45:49 -0500 Received: from web20516.mail.yahoo.com (web20516.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.232.185]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9RIjmf32544 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:45:49 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20516.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:45:47 PST Message-ID: <20031027184547.59774.qmail@web20516.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:45:47 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Monaco To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031027130654.00b95208@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > That's very, very nice. Let's have the next fest in > Chicago and make the > Hotel Monaco there our headquarters, even though I > doubt that it is located > in Tushar's neighborhood. The question seems to be, is T.S. located in T.S.'s neighborhood anymore. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 13:08:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RJ8m6q026017 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:08:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 92E7B1E60297; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:05:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 830BB1E60294 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:05:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A20FCB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:58:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14185814 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:58:46 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RIwjf02494 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:58:45 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-175.inebraska.com [206.222.202.175]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9RIweth001490 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:58:42 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000e01c39cbc$47809660$afcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031027083424.03c4f0f8@mail.istori.com> Subject: Re: Re: Spam Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:58:14 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I avoid them by using Eudora and telling it to use its internal HTML viewer > instead of using an embedded Internet Explorer viewer, because its internal > viewer doesn't know how to load images. Hopefully some of the newer > mailers are starting to allow you to disable web bugs, and there are also > some web bug filters, although I haven't tried any. > > Pete Thanks, Pete. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 13:09:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RJ9w6q026043 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:09:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4EC531E60298; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:06:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 550C71E60294 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:06:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A20FFB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:59:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14185968 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:59:57 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RIxuf02738 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:59:56 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-175.inebraska.com [206.222.202.175]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9RIxrth004263 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:59:54 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001c01c39cbc$727bb340$afcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B775F8@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Subject: Re: Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:59:28 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >From: Peter Kaminski [mailto:kaminski@ISTORI.COM] > >Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 12:46 PM > > >Doris Markland writes, > > > >>This has been going on for some time. I don't know > >>who sends these blank messages or what they have to > >>gain. Ideas? > > > >I used to wonder, too. Now with the personal spam filter I'm using, > >POPFile, I don't look at spam bodies much anymore. > > Spammers will frequently want to know how "fresh" their lists are, even if > nothing more than for selling purposes, so they send out what amounts to a > "ping". The other reason may because they are new to their spamware and > accidentally hit the [Return] button too soon and everyone got the result of > their failure. Thanks, Phil. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 13:12:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RJCQ6q026075 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:12:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 442771E601CE; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:09:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1324A1E60294 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:09:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001BFDF5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 14:02:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14185332 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 14:02:22 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RIqLf01212 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:52:21 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9RIppPi023653 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:51:51 -0500 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:52:20 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Monaco In-Reply-To: <20031027184002.53551.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031027184002.53551.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >Did you bring the goldfish home with you? Nah. I have a pet in Knoxville. >Tell about the grand hotel. Go look. And consider these details: The Monaco in SLC used to be a bank and office building. It was the old-fashioned kind of an office where the elevator let you out right in the lobby of the law firm or whatever. It all looks great in art deco. But lovely as the physical place is - and it is lovely - that loveliness is greatly exceeded by the service and restaurant food. Here's an example: local newspapers are delivered to rooms each morning. In the lobby there are more copies of it, also copies of the NYTimes. On Sat., I read the Times before being picked up for my workshop. I decided that I wanted to quote from two stories about the Quattrone mistrial. I spoke to the bell captain, told him I would not normally ask to take away so early in the day one of the two available copies of the Times, but that I wanted to use it in my morning workshop. He replied immediately, "Madame, the sole reason that we ordered that particular copy of the Times was so that you would have it available for use in your presentation." All staff were like that -- all the time! And the food at Bambara! Fantastic! Six of us had dinner there Sat. night - I had incredibly good yellow-fun tuna. At breakfast on Sunday, I asked that some toast I did not eat be turned into a cheese sandwich for a lunch on the airplane. I was presented with a full-size grilled cheese sandwich (excellent cheese), dill pickles, potato chips - all on the house! (And yes I did tip well.) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 13:19:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RJJI6q026154 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:19:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A20701E60298; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:16:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1F5B1E60297 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:16:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2103F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 14:09:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14186882 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 14:09:17 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RJ9Gf04760 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 14:09:16 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-175.inebraska.com [206.222.202.175]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9RJ9Dth026874 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:09:14 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <003701c39cbd$c02666c0$afcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031027184547.59774.qmail@web20516.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: Monaco Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:08:47 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > That's very, very nice. Let's have the next fest in > > Chicago and make the > > Hotel Monaco there our headquarters, even though I > > doubt that it is located > > in Tushar's neighborhood. > > The question seems to be, is T.S. located in T.S.'s > neighborhood anymore. > > Perhaps he has been recalled. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 14:03:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RK3n6q027049 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 14:03:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9AA991E60155; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 14:00:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2F5E1E6013E for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 14:00:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A211B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 14:53:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14190622 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 14:53:47 -0500 Received: from web20503.mail.yahoo.com (web20503.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.138]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9RJrkf13685 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 14:53:46 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:53:43 PST Message-ID: <20031027195344.30606.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:53:43 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Monaco To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <003701c39cbd$c02666c0$afcadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Perhaps he has been recalled. Not like a governor, but rather, a naughty ambassador? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 14:36:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RKaP6q027450 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 14:36:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EE6DC1E60155; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 14:33:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6DD71E601CF for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 14:33:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A212D8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 15:26:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14193404 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 15:26:22 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RKQL620457 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 15:26:21 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-190.gwi.net [216.195.157.190]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9RKQHGp019164; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 15:26:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031027152554.00b57338@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 15:26:17 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Monaco In-Reply-To: <20031027195344.30606.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> References: <003701c39cbd$c02666c0$afcadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:53 AM 10/27/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > > > > Perhaps he has been recalled. > >Not like a governor, but rather, a naughty ambassador? ..or a faulty product? cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 15:21:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RLL16q027899 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 15:21:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 22FC51E601E7; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 15:17:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D9961E601DB for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 15:17:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A214BA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:10:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14197521 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:10:59 -0500 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RLAv629995 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:10:58 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.151.25f42f96 (17377) for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:08:53 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <151.25f42f96.2ccee365@aol.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:08:53 EST Subject: Re: Katzen Report To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/27/2003 3:37:44 AM, Espen.Ore@NB.NO writes: >My German may have become rusty but I would belive that "den Katzen" was >a dative for an indirect object. My German is probably rustier than yours even, but I thought it was 4th declension, not 3rd. But I could be totally wrong; if I am, forgive me! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 15:45:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RLjU6q028148 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 15:45:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 531281E601DA; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 15:42:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC5141E601D6 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 15:42:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2157D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:35:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14198710 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:35:29 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RLPS632751 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:25:28 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9RLOuPi010120 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:24:58 -0500 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:25:25 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Natalie - help please! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I've got a sticky situation. I am scheduled to be in Hot Springs, AR, Oct. 30-Nov. 2 (Thurs-Sun). I have just agreed to be available at trial in Hattiesburg on Tu, Nov. 4. It is not going to make a lot of sense to come back to Knoxville, as originally scheduled. Counsel will pay all my travel and hotel expenses if I go on to Hattiesburg on Monday, so that's what I am going to try to do. (I have a TA who can cover the one class I am teaching.) What will I need to know about air/auto transportation before I start trying to book flights, etc. Suggestions welcome! (Or maybe I should fly back here on Sat instead of Sunday (Again, counsel will pay the extra airfare), then go to H. on Monday. Hmmm.) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 16:19:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RMJB6q028622 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:19:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E1CE71E601DB; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:16:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E7B31E601DA for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:16:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A21734@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:09:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14203584 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:09:10 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RM9A609002 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:09:10 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001C04C6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:09:09 -0500 Message-Id: <200310272209.h9RM9A609002@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:09:09 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Spam To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:45:38 -0800, Peter Kaminski wrote: >Doris Markland writes, > >>This has been going on for some time. I don't know >>who sends these blank messages or what they have to >>gain. Ideas? > >I used to wonder, too. Now with the personal spam filter I'm using, >POPFile, I don't look at spam bodies much anymore. > >Sometimes a message looks blank because they've screwed up the message >format such that it comes through in some email clients, but not all. > >Otherwise, it might be that they're looking for bounces, testing a mail >relay, or it might be a bug in the spam program. > Another trend that worries me quite a lot is the change in the "from" fake names lately - they increasingly mimic names of people I know and receive email from, making me wonder if some spam bot or bug is able to peek at my address book, and concoct a from list based on it. Every time I wonder this I dismiss it as an unworthily paranoid suggestion; but when my husband's very unusual first name popped up as a "from" this morning, I was forced to reevaluate. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 16:20:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RMKh6q028637 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:20:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C798D1E601DA; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:17:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D1D31E601D3 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:17:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2173C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:10:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14203674 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:10:41 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RMAf609236 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:10:41 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.30]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031027221036.GLRO1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:10:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9D97D0.ADEBC4A@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:10:24 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Katzen Report References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031027103505.01b9d880@localhost> <5.2.1.1.0.20031027124603.01b554d8@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen Ore wrote: > I believe she wants things to be different: that the cat owner should be at home and able to open the door for her when she wishes. Quite likely. I told her a little while ago that her regular companion will be home soon (tomorrow night), and she seemed reasonably content when I stroked her while she was chowing down on her canned food. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 16:22:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RMMk6q028656 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:22:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6B0E31E601DB; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:19:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DBB51E601D3 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:19:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A21752@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:12:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14203786 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:12:44 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RMCi609567 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:12:44 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.30]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031027221238.GMWL1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:12:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9D9856.97D32D82@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:12:38 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Spam References: <003101c39c8a$c4347d20$afcadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > This has been going on for some time. I don't know > who sends these blank messages or what they have to > gain. Ideas? I think I get some of those also. Lately I seem to have gotten more about penis patches than anything else. I haven't checked to see whether they're about patches for broken penises -- sort of like tire patches or clothes patches -- or whether they're about planting a penis patch in your yard. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 16:23:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RMNI6q028659 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:23:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 996A91E601DA; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:20:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B32B1E601D3 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:20:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A21762@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:13:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14203822 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:13:16 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RMDG609681 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:13:16 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.30]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031027221311.GNEC1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:13:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9D9876.63B19228@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:13:10 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Katzen Report References: <3F9CFCAE.C012A216@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031027103505.01b9d880@localhost> <5.2.1.1.0.20031027081404.00b26ab0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > I agree. It was Ugly's way of saying "Service has gone to hell around here." . I'll be glad when tomorrow night comes. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 16:24:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RMOw6q028712 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:24:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A399E1E601FC; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:21:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 565551E601F5 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:21:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2174F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:14:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14203916 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:14:56 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RMEu609990 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:14:56 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.30]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031027221451.GOCQ1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:14:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9D98DA.51F6EA97@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:14:50 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Katzen Report References: <3F9CFCAE.C012A216@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031027103505.01b9d880@localhost> <5.2.1.1.0.20031027081404.00b26ab0@pop.gwi.net> <3F9D228A.9010304@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: > I think she may want a hug! Something about her life is and > she needs reassurance that she will be O.K. She did seem to like the stroking, even though she's kind of shy. Her outside buddy seems mainly interested in food. As usual, he almost yanked the food bag out of my hands. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 16:30:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RMU86q028735 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:30:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A8AC11E601FC; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:27:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 765E61E601DA for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:27:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2178D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:20:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14204283 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:20:07 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RMK6610896 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:20:06 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9RMK1eO023797 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 14:20:02 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9RMK1a2023756 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 14:20:01 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031027141649.00a560d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 14:17:07 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Natalie - help please! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Where is Hattiesburg? At 04:25 PM 10/27/2003 -0500, you wrote: >I've got a sticky situation. I am scheduled to be in Hot Springs, AR, >Oct. 30-Nov. 2 (Thurs-Sun). I have just agreed to be available at trial in >Hattiesburg on Tu, Nov. 4. It is not going to make a lot of sense to come >back to Knoxville, as originally scheduled. Counsel will pay all my travel and >hotel expenses if I go on to Hattiesburg on Monday, so that's what I am >going to try to do. (I have a TA who can cover the one class I am >teaching.) > >What will I need to know about air/auto transportation before I start >trying to book flights, etc. Suggestions welcome! > >(Or maybe I should fly back here on Sat instead of Sunday (Again, counsel >will pay the extra airfare), then go to H. on Monday. Hmmm.) > >Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 16:31:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RMVN6q028746 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:31:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 467A51E601F5; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:28:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 033691E601DC for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:28:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2177F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:21:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14204385 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:21:21 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RMLL611115 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:21:21 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.30]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031027222115.GRQL1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:21:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9D9A5B.A6FB00EA@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:21:15 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Maybe a Tiny Bit of Damage Control References: <20031027142341.28266.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0310/26/lminor.html > > Having one reporter making comments from this > perspective may be indicative of a slight swing, > although I would worry about the timing being off. He's a columnist who has no doubt supported her all along. Although I don't know that he has ever identified himself with a political party, he for sure isn't Republicanish. > The Green > > Party candidate is > > almost certainly going to get some extra votes from > > people who are > > totally disgusted by the mud flying between the two > > mainstream > > candidates. The sad part is that both of them are > > competent and have > > some good things going for them. But their ads say > > nothing about their > > own accomplishments and credentials because they're > > too busy talking > > about the other candidate -- full of distortions and > > innuendoes (on both > > sides). > > I thought the Green Party guy was the one who got > rowdy at the debate. Is he perceived as having had > grounds for acting out? Yes, he's the one who got rowdy in that he wasn't invited to the debate but leaped upon the stage and introduced himself. I think he (and a couple of other minor candidates) were right to be mad at not being invited to participate in the debates. > Nobody seems to campaign on issues or character any > more. Name-calling and finger-pointing like > three-year olds seem to have displaced any attempt to > portray facts - at all levels. Last night's national people seemed like saints compared to our state contenders. I enjoyed the Gov at breakfast, btw. He sat at the end of a table that I was next to the corner on -- iow, there was only one person between me and him -- and I found him quite personable. I'd never noticed before that he has beautiful eyes. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 16:33:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RMXd6q028766 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:33:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 60ED31E601F5; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:30:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C7041E601DC for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:30:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2178F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:23:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14204537 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:23:37 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RMNb611602 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:23:37 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003102722232901300g2dqee>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 22:23:30 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031027141606.030c1dd8@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 14:23:50 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Spam In-Reply-To: <200310272209.h9RM9A609002@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander writes, >Every time I wonder this I dismiss it as an unworthily paranoid >suggestion; but when my husband's very unusual first name popped up as a >"from" this morning, I was forced to reevaluate. Email worms forge email headers to be from someone you know. Perhaps they're from a worm, and not a spammer? Forward one with all the headers to me, and I might be able to tell you more. (Some terse instructions for displaying "all the headers": ) Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 16:33:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RMXu6q028770 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:33:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B30911E601FC; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:30:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73CFC1E601F5 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:30:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A21790@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:23:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14204551 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:23:55 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RMNs611633 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:23:54 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.30]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031027222349.GTAN1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:23:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9D9AF4.A10D03CA@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:23:48 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Heavens References: <3F9BD9A1.4C61A131@maynor.net> <037f01c39c96$8b11e8a0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alan Wild wrote: > Try to get her (that's > you Natalie :) in the routine of looking around when going to the car and > when unlocking the door. Then when you get in the car lock the doors and > start the engine and get moving. Some have been at the ATM machines. Thank you for the research. I will be careful not to use ATMs in Jackson. Somehow I'm not really worried about getting carjacked in Starkville. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 16:35:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RMZv6q028790 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:35:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 252851E601F5; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:32:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E73371E601DC for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:32:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A217AE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:25:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14204681 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:25:56 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RMPu611858 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:25:56 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.30]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031027222551.GUCG1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:25:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9D9B6E.20E573B6@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:25:50 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Greetings & Salutations (10+ years later) References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B775F0@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Welcome back, Phil! Real Wordslers always return. How are your dogs? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 16:42:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RMgO6q028836 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:42:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AE4C21E601FC; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:39:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EEB31E601F5 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:39:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A217D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:32:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14204935 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:32:23 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f7.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RMWM612596 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:32:22 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 14:32:17 -0800 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 22:32:16 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:32:16 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2003 22:32:17.0316 (UTC) FILETIME=[2D4A6640:01C39CDA] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: bonniev >a convenience store/gas station one winter in Bar Harbor. The people who >bought lottery scratch tickets were spending hundreds of dollars a month on >them. How can that not threaten the ability to pay for basic necessities? >$300 a month can make a big difference in that income group about the > >comforts of life. A better apartment can be rented. Less fear of No question about it. Three hundred bucks a month is a pretty significant outlay. If your correspondent is accurate, those people would obviously be better off putting the money in a mutual fund, and if they're spending $3,600 a year on lottery tickets, they could obviously afford to do so. I'd have to characterize that behavior as irrational, if only because I think buying three hundred tickets offers hardly any greater chance of winning than buying one. Frankly, a person who gambles $300 a month would be much better served playing at a casino, since casinos pay back much more of their gross than do lotteries. I have some smallish doubt that your source is completely accurate (specifically, I'm wondering whether the big buyers are actually buying scratch-offs or whether they were buying, say, powerball tickets; I've heard that when the jackpots get very big on those, people tend to buy them in large quantities. But I don't buy lottery tickets, and I don't spend much time in convenient store/gas stations, so I'll accept his observation, and agree that this behavior is extraordinarily stupid. _________________________________________________________________ Never get a busy signal because you are always connected with high-speed Internet access. Click here to comparison-shop providers. https://broadband.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 16:44:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RMiU6q028890 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:44:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 98DAD1E601FC; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:41:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6140D1E601DC for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:41:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A217C0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:34:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14205001 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:34:29 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RMYS612842 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:34:28 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.30]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031027223423.GZNY1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:34:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9D9D6E.6CC22171@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:34:22 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie - help please! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > What will I need to know about air/auto transportation before I start > trying to book flights, etc. Suggestions welcome! I know zero about the Hattiesburg airport. I feel sure that there are car rentals places at it, if that's what you mean about auto transportation. But I don't know what airlines fly there. (Presumably it has a website that would reveal all.) If the airline connections aren't good for Hattiesburg, you might also consider Gulfport, Mobile, New Orleans, or Jackson. Gulfport would be the closest -- it's only about thirty minutes away. But the others are all within what I would deem reasonable driving distance if you found that the flight offerings were much better. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 16:45:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RMjx6q028911 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:45:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3A7311E601F5; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:42:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 033941E601DC for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:42:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A217D4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:35:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14205106 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:35:48 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RMZm613199 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:35:48 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001C0590@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:35:48 -0500 Message-Id: <200310272235.h9RMZm613199@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:35:48 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Katzen Report To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:50:02 -0500, Rita Leonard wrote: >bonniev wrote: > >>> >Is it significant, btw, that yesterday afternoon Ugly did not come into >>> >the kitchen but instead sat in the hall nearby meowing loudly? I saw >>> >her, so I know she's ok, but why the loud meowing? What was she trying >>> >to tell me? Was it a greeting or a protest or what? >>> I believe she wants things to be different: that the cat owner should be >>> at home and able to open the door for her when she wishes. --Espen >> >> >> I agree. It was Ugly's way of saying "Service has gone to hell around >> here." >> >> >> bonnie > >I think she may want a hug! Something about her life is and >she needs reassurance that she will be O.K. > Don't feel bad at being unable to interpret; the meaning may be private between cats and owners. Sometimes it means "come here and look - I have a dead mouse on your pillow for you". Sometimes it means "hungry", "lonely", etc. My daughter's ocecat was silent until she taught it to mew to get down - they worked out this arrangement so that it would tolerate being held (it knew it wasn't trapped). It now mews also to be picked up and petted. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 16:52:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RMqL6q029107 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:52:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CF4621E601DC; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:49:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CA111E601CE for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:49:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001C05B1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:42:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14205402 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:42:20 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RMgJ614095 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:42:19 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.30]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031027224214.HERB1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:42:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9D9F43.8E964594@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:42:11 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Hburg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What a wimpy website! Not only does it not -- it reveals almost nothing: http://www.airportcity.com/index.html Here's another airport, but something makes me think you'd have to rent or own a plane to fly to it -- sort of like the Starkville municipal airport: http://www.ohwy.com/ms/h/hbg.htm -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 16:54:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RMsZ6q029125 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:54:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 705AE1E60222; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:51:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 403681E6020D for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:51:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A217FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:44:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14205475 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:44:33 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RMiX614466 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:44:33 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.30]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031027224428.HFZO1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:44:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9D9FCB.7C48D2BC@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:44:27 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Spam References: <200310272209.h9RM9A609002@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Another trend that worries me quite a lot is the change in the "from" fake > names lately - they increasingly mimic names of people I know and receive > email from, making me wonder if some spam bot or bug is able to peek at my > address book, and concoct a from list based on it. Every time I wonder this > I dismiss it as an unworthily paranoid suggestion; but when my husband's > very unusual first name popped up as a "from" this morning, I was forced to > reevaluate. I had the same kind of feeling last night when I had just sent e-mail to a friend named Lucy who is in Japan now and almost immediately received spam from lucy@something.jp. But my friend Lucy is using aol.com -- no .jp. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 16:54:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RMsr6q029130 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:54:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5F94D1E601DC; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:51:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31B6D1E601CE for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:51:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A217FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:44:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14205484 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:44:51 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RMip614494 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:44:51 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-190.gwi.net [216.195.157.190]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9RMinGn048283 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:44:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031027174456.00ba9730@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:45:14 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Natalie - help please! In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031027141649.00a560d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Why is Natalie supposed to help you? >Where is Hattiesburg? > >At 04:25 PM 10/27/2003 -0500, you wrote: >>I've got a sticky situation. I am scheduled to be in Hot Springs, AR, >>Oct. 30-Nov. 2 (Thurs-Sun). I have just agreed to be available at trial in >>Hattiesburg on Tu, Nov. 4. It is not going to make a lot of sense to come >>back to Knoxville, as originally scheduled. Counsel will pay all my >>travel and >>hotel expenses if I go on to Hattiesburg on Monday, so that's what I am >>going to try to do. (I have a TA who can cover the one class I am >>teaching.) >> >>What will I need to know about air/auto transportation before I start >>trying to book flights, etc. Suggestions welcome! >> >>(Or maybe I should fly back here on Sat instead of Sunday (Again, counsel >>will pay the extra airfare), then go to H. on Monday. Hmmm.) >> >>Bethany bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 16:57:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RMvt6q029149 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:57:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4EABD1E601F5; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:54:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B4C31E601DC for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:54:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001C05A1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:47:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14205594 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:47:53 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RMlr614802 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:47:53 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-190.gwi.net [216.195.157.190]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9RMlqGn048962 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:47:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031027174648.00b8f170@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:48:11 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I have some smallish doubt that your source is completely accurate >(specifically, I'm wondering whether the big buyers are actually buying >scratch-offs or whether they were buying, say, powerball tickets; I've heard >that when the jackpots get very big on those, people tend to buy them in >large quantities. But I don't buy lottery tickets, and I don't spend much >time in convenient store/gas stations, so I'll accept his observation, and >agree that this behavior is extraordinarily stupid. The way she described it, they would come into the store, buy a ticket or two, go out into their pickup truck, scratch the ticket, and then come in to buy another one or two. Night after night. I don't know much about scratch tickets vs. powerball tickets. I've never bought any kind of lottery ticket. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 16:58:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RMwq6q029154 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:58:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2CF2C1E601F5; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:55:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F32FF1E601DC for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:55:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2180B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:48:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14205626 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:48:50 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RMmo614897 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:48:50 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.30]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031027224843.HISM1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:48:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9DA0CB.96A95462@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:48:43 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie - help please! References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031027141649.00a560d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > > Where is Hattiesburg? Under the top of the first P: http://www.infoplease.com/atlas/state/mississippi.html That map makes Mobile look closer than Gulfport. It may be. I'm not sure about the highway quality, though. The last time I drove between Hattiesburg and Mobile was probably about '68. That highway was bad then, but I have a feeling it might be better now. I know the one from the Coast is good, having driven it a few months ago. Ditto the highways from Jackson and New Orleans (ditto they're good, not ditto I've driven them in the past few months). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 16:59:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RMxv6q029161 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:59:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 560101E6020D; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:56:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 287271E601F5 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:56:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2180E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:49:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14205659 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:49:55 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RMnt615041 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:49:55 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-190.gwi.net [216.195.157.190]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9RMnsGn049379 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:49:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031027174836.00b37998@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:50:19 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU And on this topic, I read further yesterday that the proposed Maine casino would not be on tribal lands. They would have to pay taxes. But the tradeoff is worth it because they need to have the casino within easy driving distance of Massachusetts and New Hampshire. The cynical article that I read actually claimed that the wealthy people of Mass and New Hampshire are Maine's greatest natural asset. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 17:01:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RN1b6q029169 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:01:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7EE131E601F5; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:58:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CDDC1E601CE for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:58:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A21821@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:51:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14205715 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:51:35 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RMpZ615216 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:51:35 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <46BXGNN6>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:51:30 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77608@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: (Long) RE: Spam Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:51:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Carolyn Ostrander [mailto:clostran@SYR.EDU] >Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 5:09 PM >Another trend that worries me quite a lot is the change in the >"from" fake >names lately - they increasingly mimic names of people I know >and receive >email from, making me wonder if some spam bot or bug is able >to peek at my >address book, and concoct a from list based on it. Every time >I wonder this >I dismiss it as an unworthily paranoid suggestion; but when my >husband's >very unusual first name popped up as a "from" this morning, I >was forced to >reevaluate. Please don't take this wrong (especially as I appear new to the group - having been away so long), but this is just now appearing to be an issue? One of the items many legislative bodies[1] have finally started employing is a requirement of a statement of who the original sender is|was. In a way, this can be considered as important as a requirement of prefixing "ADV:"[2] to the subject line (to make filtering easy, especially at the incoming pipe so users never see it) but spammers have never been known to do either. Getting a spammer on the issue of being subversive about their originating address/domain is considered more important in case law than if they "accidentally forget" to use "ADV:". What really makes the chase very difficult are what are know as "open relays" and "open proxies". Think of open relays as taking a phone, walking up to a neighbor's phone box in the back, opening it up, and either plugging your phone into a spare socket or stripping wires & making a connection (whichever is easier). Want free LD? Got it. If someone tracks down the call, where does it look like it came from? Them. Their phone has become an open relay. Now, think about taking a PC and being able to plug into another site and everything you do makes it appear as though you were using that network. Consider bouncing email from open relay to open relay, etc. etc. Why is this permitted to occur? There are many products which default to open for relays and products, including some Microsoft and other open source which are set open because it's easier for people to install & use, then customize later. Otherwise, they'd have to dot their 'i's and cross their 't's before they could even get it to run. There are even some EFF individuals who believe it's a God-given right to run open relays. There are plenty of open relays and open proxies for spammers to rape and they're overseas. How do you convince them to fix them? Think about all of the schools in the US who are up & running as open relays & open proxies. Again, you have to track down who is responsible, and with kid gloves, find out if they are interested in helping to do their part, hoping they will trust the person who is walking them through it via phone|email isn't opening their network to the world. So how are spammers caught? You'd be surprised. There are incredibly well-documented resources online, including criminal records, photographs (some are *very* interesting), snailmail addresses[3], etc. There's one site at http://www.rokso.com which will only post spammers' information if they've been kicked off at least three ISPs. If that's happened, it's got to be a pretty good sign they aren't around to work & play well with others online. [1] when you think about it, there are only two: state and federal. The proposed federal level laws - in large disagreement with each other - would supercede nearly all states' laws but would allow them to create laws with harsher penalties. The DMA (Direct Marketing Association) is the primary lobbying body supporting the business world's efforts within Congress. The DMA has tried to differentiate spam vs. "good" email but has never stated what spam really is. The general rule of thumb is "It's something we don't do - they do it but we don't." That's a pretty clear explanation. [2] No one (in the know) has yet to figure out why this included in legislation. Once it occurred one place, it was repeated everywhere. The other thing which has become silly is using "ADLT: for adult materials. Now if that is important, why wouldn't someone be required to prefix the subject with "ADULT:"? Are they *that* interested in saving spare electrons for the letter "U"? [3] There's a really good story here for anyone whose interest in spam lies as low as 0.1%. I can put together information and post it if I get enough OTL requests. There's a hardcore spammer (this case of the Pareto principle - seems to be numbered at 200) named Alan Ralsky. He made the mistake of granting a an interview to the Detroit Free Press and word got around. He mentioned how proud he was of his new $750k house...permission for the article was that the reporter couldn't publish his previous|current address, phone #, etc. Now wouldn't you know it? Ralsky forgot one of the technical world's tenets, "Never p%ss off a nerd. A p%ssed off nerd can make your life *very* interesting." Lo & behold, someone paid the paltry sum it took to make a lookup of his real estate, an overhead view, and the actual address. Everything was posted on Slashdot (if anyone is not familiar with SlashDot (http://www.slashdot.org), I highly suggest you do so for a different slant on the oneline world) and a hive mentality took over. Soon, he was receiving magazine samples, catalogs, etc. (IIRC, this was almost a year to now - definitely before Christmas) Ralsky scheduled another interview and seemed to be a bit peeved, threatening to sic his attorney on the violators (yeah, right). It was estimated he received at least two tons of snailmail. (even if he threw it away, he still had to move it) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 17:04:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RN4t6q029224 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:04:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9CB4D1E601DC; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:01:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E00C1E601CE for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:01:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001C0609@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:54:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14206373 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:54:54 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RMsr615801 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:54:53 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.30]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031027225448.HMFI1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:54:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9DA238.5BAAE5DE@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:54:48 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hburg References: <3F9D9F43.8E964594@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > What a wimpy website! Not only does it not -- it reveals > almost nothing: > > http://www.airportcity.com/index.html I looked more carefully this time and found the answer re airlines: Northwest Airlink. http://www.airportcity.com/commercial.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 17:12:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RNCv6q029287 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:12:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 07D751E60222; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:09:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C90971E6020D for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:09:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A218EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:02:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14207410 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:02:55 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RN2t616950 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:02:55 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <46BXGNQY>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:02:49 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77609@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU'" Subject: RE: Greetings & Salutations (10+ years later) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:02:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] >Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 5:26 PM >Welcome back, Phil! Real Wordslers always return. How are your dogs? Thanks. I've got a whole new generation. Originally, it was two schnauzers, a mutt, and a doxie. After one of the schnauzers went, I rescued a black chow chow who I had to put down after I'd had him for 5 1/2 years. My vet cried with me - he was the most passive, loving chow she'd seen. I could take him into a nursing home, unleash him and turn him loose - no training, no worries. The world's biggest pussycat (The original four had all been named with "K" names, so I named him Kramer - black poofy hair). Before I'd lost him, I rescued another chow - a butterscotch who'd been chained to a doghouse sans food & water as a puppy at eleven pounds. She got named "Sabita" - Japanese for "rusty" although I don't think it's the rusty color but the quality of being rusty. But she loves to be called Sabi. After losing Kramer, Sabi was crushed. If she'd been human, I'd put her on a suicide watch. I got a keeshond for her and she wouldn't have anything to do with him (Cosmo - living off the Kramer name) and after a couple of weeks, they're like siblings - Kramer was definitely in a master/tutor relationship. I've also got a silver dapple doxie named "Pippi" (pipsqueak). The most interesting thing about all of the chemistry is with Sabi - overnight, losing Kramer, she turned from being a docile puppy to a "might bite" dog and I can't leave her out of eyesight, even on a leash with someone she knows (thank goodness for a six' fence). How do you stand when it comes to four-footed family members? I know you had one when we parted... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 17:28:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RNS66q029444 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:28:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D97191E60242; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:23:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA0FA1E601DC for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:23:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2190E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:16:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14208068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:16:16 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RNGG618415 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:16:16 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-175.inebraska.com [206.222.202.175]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9RNGBth007364 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:16:14 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000601c39ce0$408b8a80$afcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <003101c39c8a$c4347d20$afcadece@0018079268> <3F9D9856.97D32D82@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Spam Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:15:42 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" To: Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 4:12 PM Subject: Re: Spam > Doris Markland wrote: > > > This has been going on for some time. I don't know > > who sends these blank messages or what they have to > > gain. Ideas? > > I think I get some of those also. Lately I seem to have gotten more > about penis patches than anything else. I haven't checked to see > whether they're about patches for broken penises -- sort of like tire > patches or clothes patches -- or whether they're about planting a penis > patch in your yard. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Oh, you mean an asparagus patch? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 17:33:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RNXT6q029525 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:33:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B2C531E60222; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:30:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 812CC1E6020D for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:30:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2191A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:23:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14208208 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:23:28 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RNNR618948 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:23:27 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-175.inebraska.com [206.222.202.175]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9RNNOth027711 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:23:26 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001301c39ce1$429f0bc0$afcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031027141606.030c1dd8@mail.istori.com> Subject: Re: Re: Spam Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:22:58 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ) > > Pete Thanks for that info. I continue to get ebay spam and when I sent it on to ebay I could not figure out how to include the headers. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 17:40:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RNed6q029629 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:40:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AC1F61E6020D; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:37:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E3271E601DD for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:37:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2194D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:30:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14208624 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:30:38 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RNUb619938 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:30:37 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.30]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031027233031.CTDX1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:30:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9DAA96.6AC282F3@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:30:30 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie - help please! References: <3F9D9D6E.6CC22171@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Gulfport would be the closest -- it's only > about thirty minutes away. Correction. While in the shower a few minutes ago, I started thinking that surely it was more than thirty minutes from Hburg to Gport. Something was "only about thirty minutes" that day I drove from the Coast and spent the night in Hburg before going to meet distant cousins the next day in Columbia. But I dawdled around in Wiggins for a long time, looking for old haunts there. I bet it was Wiggins that was only 30 minutes from Gulfport. Hburg would be at least 45 miinutes. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 17:42:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RNgA6q029641 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:42:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E857F1E601DD; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:39:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B97AB1E601CE for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:39:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2197F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:32:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14208970 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:32:08 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RNW8620258 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:32:08 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.30]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031027233202.CTSF1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:32:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9DAAF2.9DFE93BA@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:32:02 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie - help please! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031027174456.00ba9730@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > Why is Natalie supposed to help you? Sort of like I would expect Bethany to have info for me if I needed to fly to Dyersburg. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 17:43:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RNhS6q029685 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:43:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E8A2C1E6020D; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:40:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B13CE1E601DD for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:40:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2198C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:33:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14209179 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:33:26 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RNXQ620622 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:33:26 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.30]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031027233320.CUFG1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:33:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9DAB40.B04851B6@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:33:20 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031027174648.00b8f170@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > The way she described it, they would come into the store, buy a ticket or > two, go out into their pickup truck, scratch the ticket, and then come in > to buy another one or two. Night after night. I don't know much about > scratch tickets vs. powerball tickets. I've never bought any kind of > lottery ticket. You mean you find out if you won right there on the spot? I thought lotteries were drawings that occurred after the ticket-selling was over. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 17:47:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RNlY6q029700 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:47:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 252181E601DD; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:44:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E79091E601CE for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:44:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A219A5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:37:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14209329 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:37:32 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RNbW621150 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:37:32 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.30]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031027233727.CVRM1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:37:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9DAC36.E6521ED1@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:37:26 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Greetings & Salutations (10+ years later) References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77609@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > How do you stand when it comes to four-footed family members? I know you > had one when we parted... Quick reply to your interesting dog note -- I've got to turn off the computer and go address political postcards in a lawyer's office: http://www2.msstate.edu/~maynor/spencer.html And a reminder of the Bernardykins you knew about but didn't know much about when he reached sixteen: http://walt.cs.msstate.edu/~maynor/ -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 17:50:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9RNoJ6q029757 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:50:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 844CE1E601DD; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:47:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 563D21E601CE for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:47:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001C0748@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:40:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14209523 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:40:17 -0500 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RNeH621599 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:40:17 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.99.3ecdd157 (4402) for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:38:05 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <99.3ecdd157.2ccf065d@aol.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:38:05 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Indians and Casinos To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/27/2003 5:33:36 PM Central Standard Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << You mean you find out if you won right there on the spot? >> Lotteries often have an instant win game in which you scratch off so many squares to see if you've won a prize. One time Dad won $50. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 18:36:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9S0aA6q030245 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:36:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7E74B1E601DD; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:33:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F7701E601DC for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:33:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A21A77@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:26:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14211297 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:26:02 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9S0G2625660 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:16:02 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9S0FXPi024441 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:15:33 -0500 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:16:02 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie - help please! In-Reply-To: <3F9D9D6E.6CC22171@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3F9D9D6E.6CC22171@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I know zero about the Hattiesburg airport. I feel sure that there are >car rentals places at it, if that's what you mean about auto >transportation. But I don't know what airlines fly there. (Presumably >it has a website that would reveal all.) If the airline connections >aren't good for Hattiesburg, you might also consider Gulfport, Mobile, >New Orleans, or Jackson. Gulfport would be the closest -- it's only >about thirty minutes away. But the others are all within what I would >deem reasonable driving distance if you found that the flight offerings >were much better. Thanks. I have made a tentative decision to fly directly to Hattiesburg - after returning to Knoxville on Sat. I will decide for sure in the morning. NWA connects through Memphis. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 19:18:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9S1IY6q030898 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:18:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DDBB51E60222; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:15:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF41F1E601DD for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:15:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A21B38@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 20:08:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14213469 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 20:08:32 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9S18W631930 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 20:08:32 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003102801082601600ffd0ue> (Authid: adamh1); Tue, 28 Oct 2003 01:08:26 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Greetings & Salutations (10+ years later) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 20:08:26 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B775F0@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > phil Welcome back, Phil! Once a Wordsler, always a Wordsler. How are your knees? Weren't you due to have surgery on them right about when you dropped off the list? > Did anyone find out who the elusive Mr. Stoud was? Not that I know of. Is this confession time? :D --Adam adamh1@comcast.net nee ahartfie@drew.edu From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 20:13:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9S2D26q031560 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 20:13:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EBC601E60222; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 20:09:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC8451E601E9 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 20:09:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A21C42@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 21:02:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14216057 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 21:02:59 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9S22x605871 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 21:02:59 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001C09DE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 21:02:58 -0500 Message-Id: <200310280202.h9S22x605871@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 21:02:59 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: (Long) RE: Spam To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:51:28 -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: >>From: Carolyn Ostrander [mailto:clostran@SYR.EDU] >>Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 5:09 PM > >>Another trend that worries me quite a lot is the change in the >>"from" fake >>names lately - they increasingly mimic names of people I know >>and receive >>email from, making me wonder if some spam bot or bug is able >>to peek at my >>address book, and concoct a from list based on it. Every time >>I wonder this >>I dismiss it as an unworthily paranoid suggestion; but when my >>husband's >>very unusual first name popped up as a "from" this morning, I >>was forced to >>reevaluate. > >Please don't take this wrong (especially as I appear new to the group - >having been away so long), but this is just now appearing to be an issue? >One of the items many legislative bodies[1] have finally started employing >is a requirement of a statement of who the original sender is|was. In a >way, this can be considered as important as a requirement of prefixing >"ADV:"[2] to the subject line (to make filtering easy, especially at the >incoming pipe so users never see it) but spammers have never been known to >do either. Getting a spammer on the issue of being subversive about their >originating address/domain is considered more important in case law than if >they "accidentally forget" to use "ADV:". Phil, Welcome back from a newbie! Hell no, it's not just now appearing to be an issue - at least, not spam, and not fake addresses. Just the piece I related: there's been a tremendous jump in the number of fake addresses that appear to be specifically tailored to the names of people I know, which implies, not just spam, but tracking of my other habits in ways that are being reported to the spammers for their use. Now tell me it's my paranoia. btw, when I do get stuff marked ADV (and I do from time to time), I am so grateful I usually give it a lookover to repay their respect. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 20:16:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9S2GW6q031618 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 20:16:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C13CD1E601E9; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 20:13:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B43501E601DD for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 20:13:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A21C2F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 21:06:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14216155 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 21:06:25 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9S26P606252 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 21:06:25 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A21C3D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 21:06:24 -0500 Message-Id: <200310280206.h9S26P606252@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 21:06:24 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:38:05 EST, Evelyn Duncan wrote: >In a message dated 10/27/2003 5:33:36 PM Central Standard Time, >natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: ><< >You mean you find out if you won right there on the spot? >>> > >Lotteries often have an instant win game in which you >scratch off so many squares to see if you've won a prize. >One time Dad won $50. > >Evelyn Duncan >brandykitt@aol.com >Mongo only pawn in game of life. Evelyn, your sig made my day! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 20:42:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9S2gR6q031933 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 20:42:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E93151E60222; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 20:39:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B33151E601E9 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 20:39:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A21CB4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 21:32:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14217364 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 21:32:24 -0500 Received: from web20506.mail.yahoo.com (web20506.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9S2WM608855 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 21:32:22 -0500 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:32:20 PST Message-ID: <20031028023221.47026.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:32:20 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Marty Rosen wrote: But I don't buy lottery tickets, > and I don't spend much > time in convenient store/gas stations, so I'll > accept his observation, and > agree that this behavior is extraordinarily stupid. We cannot forgive the masses for their opiates. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 21:17:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9S3Hb6q032240 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 21:17:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0D5AF1E6027F; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 21:14:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D41B11E60277 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 21:14:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A21D0C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 22:07:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14218416 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 22:07:34 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9S37X611576 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 22:07:34 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.139.219]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031028030724.GZJT1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 22:07:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9DDD6C.B4731E25@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 21:07:24 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Spam References: <003101c39c8a$c4347d20$afcadece@0018079268> <3F9D9856.97D32D82@maynor.net> <000601c39ce0$408b8a80$afcadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > patches or clothes patches -- or whether they're about planting a > penis > > patch in your yard. > > Oh, you mean an asparagus patch? Like that, yes. Is it true, Bonniemae, that nuns take duck-walks in asparagus patches? We thought that was sooooo funny in jr high or so. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 21:21:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9S3Lh6q032304 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 21:21:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D3D4C1E6027F; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 21:18:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2BD01E60277 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 21:18:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001C0AE6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 22:11:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14218592 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 22:11:40 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9S3Bd611829 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 22:11:39 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.139.219]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031028031129.HBBH1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 22:11:29 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9DDE61.3686D765@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 21:11:29 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie - help please! References: <3F9D9D6E.6CC22171@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > NWA connects through Memphis. Indeedy. I know the Memphis airport well. It's a very boring airport if you have a long wait, but it's a convenient one if you don't have a long wait. If both of your flights are NW Airlink flights, you won't go into the main concourses at all. You'll be out there in Concourse A, where all the little mosquito-sized planes come and go, and where the passengers are led like rows of ducks to get onto the little planes. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 21:55:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9S3tV6q032670 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 21:55:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 846141E6027F; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 21:52:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 561F61E601ED for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 21:52:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A21DCF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 22:45:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14220044 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 22:45:27 -0500 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9S3jR615431 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 22:45:27 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.127.3331e726 (25711) for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 22:44:56 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <127.3331e726.2ccf4037@aol.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 22:44:55 EST Subject: Re: Greetings & Salutations (10+ years later) To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/27/2003 4:26:08 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >Welcome back, Phil! Real Wordslers always return. How are your dogs? > Is this the Phil I know? Anyway, welcome back. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 21:58:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9S3wu6q032701 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 21:58:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 08AD11E6027F; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 21:55:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEEAA1E60277 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 21:55:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A21DDF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 22:48:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14220194 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 22:48:53 -0500 Received: from imo-m03.mx.aol.com (imo-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.6]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9S3mr615795 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 22:48:53 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.19c.1be43c98 (25711) for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 22:47:44 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <19c.1be43c98.2ccf40e0@aol.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 22:47:44 EST Subject: Re: Katzen Report To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/27/2003 4:36:28 PM, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: >Sometimes it means "come here and look - I have a > dead mouse on your pillow for you" Speaking of which, mine left a dead mouse by my feet, not on my pillow thank goodness! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 27 22:37:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9S4bJ6q000699 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 22:37:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 36CF71E6027F; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 22:34:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03F951E601FA for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 22:34:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A21FCD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 23:27:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14224559 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 23:27:15 -0500 Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9S4RF620773 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 23:27:15 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1c5.103fa719 (4004) for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 23:26:51 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1c5.103fa719.2ccf4a0a@aol.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 23:26:50 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Indians and Casinos To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/27/2003 8:06:45 PM Central Standard Time, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: << Evelyn, your sig made my day! clo >> It's from one of my favorite movies: Blazing Saddles. The movie was discussed on an episode of VH1's "We Love the 70s," and someone said that that movie could not be made today due to political correctness. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 03:26:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9S9QX6q020930 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 03:26:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A029C1E6029E; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 03:23:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E6DF1E6029B for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 03:23:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A22662@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 4:16:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14237950 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 04:16:27 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9S9GR617594 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 04:16:27 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:18:06 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id VR1BNAXC; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:17:55 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031028101507.00b20cf0@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:15:56 +0100 Subject: Re: Katzen Report In-Reply-To: <151.25f42f96.2ccee365@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 16:08 27.10.2003 -0500 skrev Theo Groothof: >In a message dated 10/27/2003 3:37:44 AM, Espen.Ore@NB.NO writes: > >>My German may have become rusty but I would belive that "den Katzen" was >>a dative for an indirect object. > >My German is probably rustier than yours even, but I thought it was 4th >declension, not 3rd. But I could be totally wrong; if I am, forgive me! The definite article of *all* German nouns is "den" in dative plural. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 03:35:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9S9ZE6q021043 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 03:35:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5FE0B1E6029D; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 03:32:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 329081E6029B for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 03:32:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A22658@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 4:25:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14238020 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 04:25:08 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9S9P7617909 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 04:25:08 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:26:47 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id VR1BNAZD; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:26:43 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031028102323.04ac0ec0@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:24:43 +0100 Subject: Re: Hburg In-Reply-To: <3F9D9F43.8E964594@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 16:42 27.10.2003 -0600 skrev Natalie Maynor: >What a wimpy website! Not only does it not -- it reveals >almost nothing: For some years my brother was a member of the local flying club at this airport: http://www.folloflyklubb.com/ski.php What you don't see from the photo is the main road across at one end and the powerlines at the other. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 05:41:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SBf86q022293 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 05:41:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 033C41E602A5; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 05:37:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9ACC1E6021A for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 05:37:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001C1540@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 6:30:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14241737 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 06:31:00 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SBUx627656 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 06:30:59 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-154-34.gwi.net [216.195.154.34]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9SBUwAr065410 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 06:30:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031028063100.00b26928@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 06:31:25 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Spam In-Reply-To: <3F9DDD6C.B4731E25@maynor.net> References: <003101c39c8a$c4347d20$afcadece@0018079268> <3F9D9856.97D32D82@maynor.net> <000601c39ce0$408b8a80$afcadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Like that, yes. Is it true, Bonniemae, that nuns take duck-walks in >asparagus patches? We thought that was sooooo funny in jr high or so. > -- Natalie I never heard that one. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 06:27:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SCRS6q022915 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 06:27:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8C75C1E602A3; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 06:24:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E8911E60223 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 06:24:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001C15A5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 7:17:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14150166 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 07:17:21 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SCHL618495 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 07:17:21 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001C15AC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 7:17:20 -0500 Message-Id: <200310281217.h9SCHL618495@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 07:17:21 -0500 From: Anne Toal Subject: Made it back home To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Graham brought me home from the hospital last night. Never was so glad to see the place. There is still a lot of healing to do, so I'll be taking it easy at home for a week. Here's a weird pair of things that happened which are coincidental to my hospitalization but they were so remarkable that the temptation to turn them into "signs" is irresistable: 1) SIGN 1: The night before we left on our mad drive to Houston a meteorite burned out directly overhead. It was visible a long time as meteorites go: maybe 2 seconds. I was outside at the time and I looked up because I thought I saw a fast-moving jet. But here's the weirdest thing: I am pretty sure I heard the "hiss" that has been theorized that might be direct stimulation of the ear nerve. Because how can you hear something simultaneously with a light that's 100,000 feet up? 2). SIGN 2: Coming home from the hospital yesterday we spotted a rare migration of eagles through a residential neighborhood in McAllen. This is the first time in my life I've ever seen an eagle in the Valley. They were majestic and it is easy to see why Native American religion considers them sacred animals. At the risk of appearing to be mentally feeble I will not interpret these signs. In all likelihood they are not signs at all but merely a pair of extraordinary events made to seem important because they happened near a traumatic event. Maybe so, maybe not. Thank you for your well wishes, and thank those of you who wrote private letters. Wordslers are a good group of people. -aht From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 08:29:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SETI6q024128 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:29:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9B24E1E602AC; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:26:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D3801E602AA for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:26:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A22B30@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 9:19:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14156036 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:19:10 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SE9A604297 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:09:10 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9SE8ePi022981 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:08:40 -0500 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:09:09 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie - help please! In-Reply-To: <3F9DDE61.3686D765@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3F9D9D6E.6CC22171@maynor.net> <3F9DDE61.3686D765@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >long wait. If both of your flights are NW Airlink flights, you won't go >into the main concourses at all. You'll be out there in Concourse A, >where all the little mosquito-sized planes come and go, and where the >passengers are led like rows of ducks to get onto the little planes. That will work! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 08:34:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SEYT6q024186 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:34:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 48F9D1E602AA; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:31:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A7B11E602A9 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:31:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A22B4F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 9:24:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14157068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:24:21 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SEOK606964 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:24:20 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-175.inebraska.com [206.222.202.175]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9SEOGth000177 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:24:19 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001601c39d5f$1cb84c40$afcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200310281217.h9SCHL618495@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Subject: Re: Made it back home Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:23:52 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > At the risk of appearing to be mentally feeble I will not interpret these > signs. In all likelihood they are not signs at all but merely a pair of > extraordinary events made to seem important because they happened near a > traumatic event. Maybe so, maybe not. > > Thank you for your well wishes, and thank those of you who wrote private > letters. Wordslers are a good group of people. > > -aht > Interesting. If nothing else, it can surely mean this . . . that when you felt your life might be threatened you moved into fight/flight mode and a state of super awareness where you noticed things that might normally have gone past you. You woke up and smelled the coffee. You stopped and smelled the roses. Eh? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 08:34:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SEYW6q024190 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:34:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 41FE51E602AA; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:31:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14CE41E602A9 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:31:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001C1864@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 9:24:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14157083 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:24:23 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SEON606982 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:24:23 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <46BXGS6W>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:24:17 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7760B@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Greetings & Salutations (10+ years later) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:24:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] >Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 6:37 PM >Phil Paxton wrote: > >> How do you stand when it comes to four-footed family >members? I know you >> had one when we parted... > >Quick reply to your interesting dog note -- I've got to turn off the >computer and go address political postcards in a lawyer's office: > >http://www2.msstate.edu/~maynor/spencer.html > >And a reminder of the Bernardykins you knew about but didn't know much >about when he reached sixteen: > >http://walt.cs.msstate.edu/~maynor/ Exceptional memorial. When I've remembered the list over the years, I've wondered how he was doing. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 08:39:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SEd66q024212 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:39:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DD8CF1E602AA; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:35:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF4C51E602A9 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:35:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001C1888@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 9:28:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14157521 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:28:58 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SESw607809 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:28:58 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.74.122]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HNH1AG00.ST9 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 07:23:04 -0700 Message-ID: <3F9E7D7D.B39F6495@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 07:30:21 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos References: <1c5.103fa719.2ccf4a0a@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > "We Love the 70s," and someone said that that movie > could not be made today due to political correctness. MADE? It can't even be *shown*. The broadcast version is so bowderlized as to constitute an entirely different film. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 08:40:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SEe96q024216 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:40:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B37E71E602AB; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:37:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47AC21E602A9 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:36:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001C1894@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 9:29:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14157554 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:30:00 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SEU0607898 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:30:00 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-175.inebraska.com [206.222.202.175]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9SETvth012445 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:29:59 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002a01c39d5f$e88cc760$afcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3F9D9D6E.6CC22171@maynor.net> <3F9DDE61.3686D765@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Natalie - help please! Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:29:33 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >long wait. If both of your flights are NW Airlink flights, you won't go > >into the main concourses at all. You'll be out there in Concourse A, > >where all the little mosquito-sized planes come and go, and where the > >passengers are led like rows of ducks to get onto the little planes. > > That will work! > > Bethany I'm flying to San Antonio tomorrow. Bought my tickets from Orbitz. Northwestern, but they are flying me on a Continental. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 08:48:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SEmk6q024292 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:48:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 118FB1E602AF; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:45:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0EE01E602AE for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:45:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001C18D9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 9:38:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14158191 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:38:37 -0500 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SEcb609184 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:38:37 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.37.3fdfb10a (3858) for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:38:28 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <37.3fdfb10a.2ccfd964@aol.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:38:28 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Indians and Casinos To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/28/2003 8:29:34 AM Central Standard Time, williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU writes: << MADE? It can't even be *shown*. The broadcast version is so bowderlized as to constitute an entirely different film. >> I gave up on "broadcast" movies a long time ago. Check out the original RoboCop with the broadcast version. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 09:03:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SF3Y6q024421 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:03:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7300D1E602AB; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:00:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 429C01E602AA for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:00:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001C1956@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 9:53:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14159296 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:53:19 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SErI611959 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:53:19 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <46BXGTCD>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:53:13 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7760C@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Greetings & Salutations (10+ years later) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:53:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Adam Hartfield [mailto:adamh1@COMCAST.NET] >Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 8:08 PM >Welcome back, Phil! > >Once a Wordsler, always a Wordsler. I hope so. My mother has asked me over the years if I'd rejoined the list. >How are your knees? Weren't you due to have surgery on them >right about when >you dropped off the list? The knees are still bad but I've stepped back on to the pitch occasionally to coach (usually 10-12 year-olds). I'll have a friend or co-worker whose kids will be in that age bracket sans coach and ask me to "get involved", usually ala "We'll go to all the meetings, do all the paperwork, all you have to do is show up for practice and the games." I've gone to a seminar or two to see what they teach coaches, particularly those of younger players. This will sound a bit nasty, but if they were to teach them the same drills we used in college, the kids would be much better prepared as they age. [nearly] Everything we did in college (and in a post-college league, where our team was composed of pairs and triples as college teammates) they can do and they wouldn't have to change later in their career[s]. It usually came down to "Have you seen someone do [x] and wanted to do it yourself? Here's how you're going to learn how to do it." Then it's broken down into discrete steps and away they go. I don't know what the other coaches thought about that, but it got a lot of attention. I've slowed down quite a bit at forty-one. That, and one of my meds (below) has caused twenty-five pounds of weight gain per year - I've managed to peak it at a total of seventy-five. Now the question is whether I can work it off. Of a more somber note (and medical note), I was hit in a car accident about 8 1/2 years ago. I was on my way downtown for a weekly run at the magazine stand. Light turns gree, pause for intersection to clear, ease into intersection, !!!BAM!!! Speed limit 30mph, accident reconstruction said she was doing at least 50. She didn't use a seatbelt, had a sprained wrist. I always have a seatbelt[1], I now have what is known as PCS (Post-Concussive Syndrome) - essentially "shaken baby syndrome". When receiving a concussion, the concussion itself is not always the most dangerous situation - usually PCS is. (and it is in my case) So I have what basically comes down to a "permanent headache". Imagine pain radiating in your forehead all of the time, then rippling outword in various formats. Migraines, tension, and forms which are bizarre. I'm a patient of Dr. Diamond in Chicago. Not the Dr. Diamond as in Diamond Heacache Clinic but his daughter. For a long time, I was seeing her monthly and now it's quarterly. Every 7-10 days, it's methadone day (today's a methadone day) - I keep a running mark on the inside of my wrist so I know where I am - some of my co-workers can read my wrist without me turning it up. Prior to the accident, I'd have perhaps one headache a year - then it would be lie down, take a nap, and it was gone. Now, sleep is my only refuge. My ears also ring - so loudly they can keep me from sleeping or wake me up at night. >> Did anyone find out who the elusive Mr. Stoud was? > >Not that I know of. Is this confession time? :D "Not I," said the cat. I figured someone would eventually pull off the mask after several years passed. [1] I was driving my Audi at the time. The repair shop looked at it and said, "if you didn't have your seatbelt on or if you'd been driving an American car, you'd be dead." (she hit me on the passenger side) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 09:04:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SF456q024440 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:04:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4A80D1E602AB; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:00:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B99C1E6022A for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:00:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A22C46@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 9:53:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14159369 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:53:57 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SErv612073 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:53:57 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <46BXGTC2>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:53:51 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7760D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: (Long) RE: Spam Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:53:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Welcome back from a newbie! > >Hell no, it's not just now appearing to be an issue - at >least, not spam, >and not fake addresses. Just the piece I related: there's been >a tremendous >jump in the number of fake addresses that appear to be >specifically tailored >to the names of people I know, which implies, not just spam, >but tracking of >my other habits in ways that are being reported to the >spammers for their use. > >Now tell me it's my paranoia. > >btw, when I do get stuff marked ADV (and I do from time to >time), I am so >grateful I usually give it a lookover to repay their respect. To be honest, I don't remember the last time I received a message prefixed by "ADV" From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 09:07:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SF7V6q024507 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:07:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A3C7E1E602AB; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:04:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71B881E602AA for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:04:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001C1972@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 9:57:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14159614 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:57:23 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SEvL612598 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:57:22 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <46BXGTCS>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:57:14 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7760E@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Greetings & Salutations (10+ years later) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:57:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Theo Groothof [mailto:Dutchessg1@AOL.COM] >Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 10:45 PM >In a message dated 10/27/2003 4:26:08 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: > >>Welcome back, Phil! Real Wordslers always return. How are your dogs? >> >Is this the Phil I know? Anyway, welcome back. IIRC, there were a couple of them. One of them worked in the same department as I did but wasn't hear as much. When I left that job I lost touch with him until a common friend caught up with me (and I knew it was a bad thing). What everyone at that location was told was "soft tissue cancer". Our common friend said, "sunshine" and I knew what that was (AIDS). It was too late to get to him - he'd already been dead for several months. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 09:28:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SFSF6q024721 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:28:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EE51C1E602B0; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:25:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFB551E602AD for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:25:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001C1A4E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:18:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14161614 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:18:06 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f89.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.89]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SFHm617439 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:17:48 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 07:17:42 -0800 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 15:17:42 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: big oil and the cost of empire Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:17:42 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Oct 2003 15:17:42.0991 (UTC) FILETIME=[A231E5F0:01C39D66] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Any thoughts on this and its implications for our portfolios? >Big Oil and the Cost of Empires by Jes Black > >As a rule, the power of all great empires diminishes over time as >governments willingly debase their currency to meet soaring expenditures. >Rome and England are prime examples, each abandoning sound monetary policy >as the cost of empire spiraled out of control. Eventually, their currencies >lost "reserve" status. > >Howard Dean grasped this truth, saying on Wednesday to reporters at the New >York Times that President Bush was "setting the stage for the failure of >America." The Times reports Dean as saying, "If you look at what's happened >to other great countries, they get in trouble when they can't manage their >money, and this president's certainly proven himself adept at that , and >they get in trouble when they overstretch their military capabilities." > >G7 Flexibility Could Lead to Petroeuros > >Following the G7 meeting in Dubai, markets received a wake up call >regarding the costs of empire. But they have yet to fully digest all the >perils of an officially sanctioned weak dollar policy. > >The past two weeks have focused on Asian nations and their recycling of >dollars back to the US. Yet the flexibility issue over global exchange >rates has an equally great importance when viewed in the context of oil >pricing and a falling dollar. Eventually, it could make more sense for >countries to price their oil in euros. > >The Oil Trade and Dollar Hegemony > >Oil is priced in dollars, giving the US the unique advantage of being able >to print money at no cost and purchasing a vital resource for its energy >dependent economy. To maintain this privilege the US must maintain its >close relations with Saudi Arabia, who is its closest ally in OPEC, and >safeguard the purchasing power of the dollar. Yet both are now being >strained by the growing costs of occupying Iraq. > >Therefore, today's remark by Russian President Vladimir Putin* that he did >not exclude pricing Russia's oil sales in euros instead of dollars raises a >red flag, but should come as no surprise. It is a necessary reaction to the >US sanctioned policy to allow its currency to fall. > >Since oil is priced in dollars, most analysts view the recent rise as a >function of supply constraints given the war in Iraq and unrest in Nigeria >and Venezuela. But the implication of a depreciating dollar is that it >requires more of that depreciating asset to buy one barrel of oil as the >dollar¡¯s value declines. From the viewpoint of oil producers, they have >not received any benefit from the rising price as the international >purchasing power of the dollar has declined. > >Foreigner oil producers are primarily concerned about being paid in a >depreciating currency for their limited resources. Alternatively, oil >priced in euros has shown a steadily rising trend, which would benefit oil >exporters, Europeans and even American producers if they chose to book >profits in euros. > > <> > >Bilateral Trade Agreements, A Positive Feedback Loop > >Following the US-led campaign in Iraq, US companies are being shut out of >deals for Middle Eastern oil reserves. Consequently companies are instead >focusing on Russian oil, with its estimated 150 billion barrels of >reserves. But European companies have access to both, which brings into >question the sustainability of oil being priced only in dollars. > >Mr. Putin's remarks precede Chancellor Schroeder's visit to Russia, >highlighting the growing possibility that increasing bilateral trade >between Europe and the East (Russia, China and MidEast), which could result >in oil being priced in euros and lead to much needed European capital >investment. Overall, petroeuros could result in a positive feedback loop >between Europe and the East. > >Implications for the US Economy > >Since oil exporters recycle their petrodollars into US assets and most >countries that import oil are required to hold dollar reserves, the US >would lose an enormous advantage of being able to finance its twin deficits >if oil were not priced in dollars. > >The advent of a petroeuro market would limit the overall demand for US >dollars, thereby importing inflation and cause US interest rates to rise. >This would be a losing proposition for Americans but a lucrative one for >Europe and oil exporters around the world if the euro were to be viewed as >a more stable reserve currency. > >America's role in maintaining world order and the ongoing occupation of >Iraq will likely keep the costs of Empire escalating. A declining dollar >and ballooning deficits will severely test the U.S. economy and the costs >of imperial conquests will eventually be passed on to the workers in the >U.S via rising inflation. > >*(Reuters: Russia not ruling out oil sales in euros. Thu October 9, 2003) > > > _________________________________________________________________ Concerned that messages may bounce because your Hotmail account has exceeded its 2MB storage limit? Get Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 09:46:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SFkP6q024966 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:46:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 46C381E602AA; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:40:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 191A51E60236 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:40:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A22DDA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:33:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14163403 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:33:45 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SFXi621649 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:33:44 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <46BXGTLJ>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:33:39 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77612@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: big oil and the cost of empire Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:33:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Marty Rosen [mailto:meeberphobia@HOTMAIL.COM] >Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:18 AM >Any thoughts on this and its implications for our portfolios? >>G7 Flexibility Could Lead to Petroeuros >> >>Following the G7 meeting in Dubai, markets received a wake up call >>regarding the costs of empire. But they have yet to fully >digest all the >>perils of an officially sanctioned weak dollar policy. Not to be pedantic, but isn't it G8 now? (but I can't remember which country is #8 (Russia?)) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 09:52:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SFq46q025024 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:52:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A1EE61E602B0; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:48:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 456FA1E602AD for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:48:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A22E32@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:41:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14164112 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:41:55 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f7.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SFfs623294 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:41:54 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 07:41:48 -0800 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 15:41:48 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: big oil and the cost of empire Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:41:48 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Oct 2003 15:41:48.0593 (UTC) FILETIME=[FFD74210:01C39D69] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Oh, go ahead and be pedantic. It's words-l, after all. >From: Phil Paxton > >> > >>Following the G7 meeting in Dubai, markets received a wake up call > >Not to be pedantic, but isn't it G8 now? (but I can't remember which >country >is #8 (Russia?)) _________________________________________________________________ Cheer a special someone with a fun Halloween eCard from American Greetings! Go to http://www.msn.americangreetings.com/index_msn.pd?source=msne134 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 09:53:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SFr46q025053 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:53:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 45FD91E602AD; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:49:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDAFF1E602AA for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:49:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001C1B37@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:42:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14164192 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:42:55 -0500 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SFgt623462 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:42:55 -0500 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58FC55D3 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:42:55 -0500 (EST) From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Greetings & Salutations (10+ years later) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:42:55 -0500 Message-ID: <004a01c39d6a$27d9b860$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7760C@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Big ouch! Wordsler have had their share of medical issues. Welcome back to the club. Alec > >Of a more somber note (and medical note), I was hit in a car >accident about >8 1/2 years ago. I was on my way downtown for a weekly run at >the magazine >stand. Light turns gree, pause for intersection to clear, ease into >intersection, !!!BAM!!! Speed limit 30mph, accident >reconstruction said she >was doing at least 50. She didn't use a seatbelt, had a >sprained wrist. I >always have a seatbelt[1], I now have what is known as PCS >(Post-Concussive >Syndrome) - essentially "shaken baby syndrome". When receiving a >concussion, the concussion itself is not always the most >dangerous situation >- usually PCS is. (and it is in my case) So I have what >basically comes >down to a "permanent headache". Imagine pain radiating in your >forehead all >of the time, then rippling outword in various formats. >Migraines, tension, >and forms which are bizarre. I'm a patient of Dr. Diamond in >Chicago. Not >the Dr. Diamond as in Diamond Heacache Clinic but his >daughter. For a long >time, I was seeing her monthly and now it's quarterly. Every >7-10 days, >it's methadone day (today's a methadone day) - I keep a >running mark on the >inside of my wrist so I know where I am - some of my >co-workers can read my >wrist without me turning it up. Prior to the accident, I'd >have perhaps one >headache a year - then it would be lie down, take a nap, and >it was gone. >Now, sleep is my only refuge. My ears also ring - so loudly >they can keep >me from sleeping or wake me up at night. > >>> Did anyone find out who the elusive Mr. Stoud was? >> >>Not that I know of. Is this confession time? :D > >"Not I," said the cat. I figured someone would eventually pull >off the mask >after several years passed. > >[1] I was driving my Audi at the time. The repair shop looked >at it and >said, "if you didn't have your seatbelt on or if you'd been driving an >American car, you'd be dead." (she hit me on the passenger side) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 10:22:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SGMZ6q025273 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:22:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F1FDD1E602AD; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:19:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83CCC1E602AA for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:19:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001C1C20@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:12:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14167198 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:12:26 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SGCP630487 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:12:25 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <46BXGTT7>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:12:19 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77614@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: big oil and the cost of empire Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:12:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: Marty Rosen [mailto:meeberphobia@HOTMAIL.COM] >Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:42 AM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: big oil and the cost of empire > > >Oh, go ahead and be pedantic. It's words-l, after all. > > >>From: Phil Paxton >> >> >> >>Following the G7 meeting in Dubai, markets received a wake up call >> >>Not to be pedantic, but isn't it G8 now? (but I can't remember which >>country >>is #8 (Russia?)) Yeah, but I've been away - I don't know how much the climate has changed. BTW, if anyone wants to see how nice it is here in Indianapolis, check out http://www.iquest.net (46, feels like 86). Yesterday, it was 41F and felt like 116F. Speaking of F/C, did we ever bring up: Thirty's hot and Twenty's nice Ten is cold and Zero's ice I found that (out where God lost his shoes, I think) and passed it along to my mother (back teaching 3rd grade after a stint at 5th) The other thing her 5th graders found interesting is|was a simple[1] formula for F<-C: ((F + 40) * 5/9)-40 = C ((C + 40) * 9/5)-40 = F IOW, all you have to worry about is which fraction to use for multiplication. "Make things simple, not simpler." -Erasmus "From simplicity arises elegance." -me, ca. 1997 (can you tell the methadone makes me manic? only the oral. the IM does not do this) and the Botox A is starting to help as well. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 10:33:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SGXl6q025370 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:33:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 84DA51E602B0; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:30:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37B991E602AD for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:30:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A22FEE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:23:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14168556 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:23:38 -0500 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9SGNb600773 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:23:37 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:23:34 PST Message-ID: <20031028162334.69531.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:23:34 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: (Long) RE: Spam To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7760D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Phil Paxton wrote: > To be honest, I don't remember the last time I > received a message prefixed > by "ADV" I don't know if I've EVER seen it. Welcome back, from another newbie - but with one proviso. The last meeber we welcomed back seems to have been somewhat disoriented - took us for another group, I believe. Are you sure you have no connection to Bizarro Bill? You know, peanut butter and all that jazz? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 10:41:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SGfr6q025420 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:41:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F14911E602B3; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:38:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1C3F1E602AD for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:38:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A23031@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:31:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14169232 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:31:43 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SGVg602751 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:31:42 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <20031028163136011006q9s4e>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:31:36 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031028074432.022f2f18@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:31:53 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: big oil and the cost of empire In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen writes, >Any thoughts on this and its implications for our portfolios? It makes China's future look much brighter. Some say it will introduce the fiscal discipline the US needs to recover -- if we're able to mount the innovation and competition it will require. Two more articles on the same subject: http://www.blackcommentator.com/60/60_cover_iraq.html http://tinyurl.com/spb0 which is a shortcut for: http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:C-Q4p2LxTHMJ:mondediplo.com/2003/10/11euro Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 11:31:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SHVR6q026064 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:31:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3394C1E6023C; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:28:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E9C1E600C6 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:28:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A23254@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:21:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14174289 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:21:17 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SHLH014113 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:21:17 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <46BXG4FK>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 00:21:31 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77615@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: tv show idea? Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 00:21:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Has anyone gone through or know someone who has gone through the process of getting an idea for a tv show on its way before? I've got one which has been, "Yeah! That *would* be good." as a general response but am a bit stumped. And I know time is of the essence. Here's some stream-of-consciousness as to what I believe to be correct: You need an agent. You need a well-connected agent who knows the right showrunners. A tv show cannot get onto the schedule without a showrunner. A showrunner is someone trusted by the networks who is willing to say, "yes, there's enough behind this show to keep it on the air, if not to make it into syndication." (two important topics for networks: "syndication": free money rolls in; and "network ownership": they don't want someone else making money from something they could own and make money from [it] ER costs something ca. $13M per episode and the network recoups advertisements for the show. In syndication they make almost squat) Another thought about showrunners: I think they're the ones listed as "Executive Producer" by themselves. There's another place where you see two or three names and I think they actually do the hands-on executive production, but I believe the showrunner is listed solo. I'm also surmising the showrunner becomes the executive producer by agreeing to take a cut (size unknown) of the show. You should never approach networks, directors, or production companies without an agent, no matter how nice they seem. There's a Writers Guild of America (http://www.wga.org). Membership is permitted by those who collect enough "merits" based upon frequency and types of work effort for various media. It permits people to upload text-related files (Microsoft Word, .pdf, etc) such that if a dispute in the future (WRT ownership of concept, etc.), you have a bonded system to show what you uploaded & when. What do you do if you only have an idea but can develop it to something more comprehensive? Write a script? (this seems silly if there's no interest in the concept) If a script is written, never write the pilot. It's generally accepted submitted pilots tend to overdevelop characters and their relationships. If written, it's better to write a first or second episode. I can write (sort-of, I think). I know a lot of people who have been "in the biz" have written books, claiming they've got all of the info you need to know. DejaGoogle (http://groups.google.com) provides scant information about this - lots of material for books and publishing as well as statements about needing a showrunner, but nothing like what I've written here. A couple of sites have searches for agents, organized by state. It also states what each agency will accept as a minimum. For me, there's but two listed in Indiana: one in Indianapolis, the other, in South Bend. The Indy agency requires a letter of inquiry as a minimum. So I send a letter and they're handy (as in, I can deal with them face::face pretty easily). But what happens if they aren't well-connected? Do I switch to someone else? Do I ask for references in the form of "which showrunners have you worked with, when, and what material? How do I find someone I know has to be connected to "hot" showrunners: Jerry Bruckheimer is really hot right now (e.g., CSI, CSI:Miami, plus about eighty other well-ranked shows) and could probably get home movies of three kids playing in a sandbox as a tv show if he wanted to. Another showrunner I know is very intense in looking for material is Ron Howard. When I was up to see Dr. Merle (how she's addressed at the Diamond Headache Clinic to differentiate her vs. Seymour, her father), I bounced my tv idea off of her again. Her response was still emphatic but suggested Mr. Howard as he'd paid a visit to her father and shadowed to determine if there was material for film (of some type; e.g., documentary, biography, movie, miniseries, whatever) and mentioned several times [that] he's *always* looking for good material (as I'm certain any good producer is). The Internet Movie Database (http://www.imdb.com) is free and useful. Membership (paid access) is even moreso because it lists contacts for people such as Mr. Howard in the form as an actor, a director, and a producer. Street addresses, phone numbers, etc. IOW, exceptionally valuable information. And finally, we all know a lot of the new tv shows suck. Statistics reveal as many as 95% do not even make it out of the first sweeps in November. There's an obvious question of, "Then why do they put them on the air?" Well, you can't show deadspace. I've always wondered why they don't do what the cable stations do and show the same episode several times each week. What's really funny is they *know* which shows are destined to tank going in to the Fall season. Are they wrong? If you watch much tv, does "CSI" ring a bell? Positioned against NBC's "Must See TV", it was picked to die a quick, immediate death. It scored....big...and fast. They haven't changed where it is on the schedule, it's regularly #1 in the ratings, and it sustains the ratings on Thursday night along with Survivor and Without a Trace. They started developing CSI: Miami almost immediately after they realized CSI was not a fad. And CSI: Miami caused some serious issues with the cast of CSI. They felt they weren't consulted and didn't think there should be a sister show until CSI was into syndication. (they're looking for another city to develop another spinoff) So the question remains: has anyone else gone through this, known someone who has, or just plain have some guidance? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 11:35:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SHZQ6q026081 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:35:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6D8091E600C6; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:32:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D2DB1E601E2 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:32:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001C1EC6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:25:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14174521 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:25:11 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SHPA014827 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:25:10 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001C1EC5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:25:10 -0500 Message-Id: <200310281725.h9SHPA014827@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:25:10 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Made it back home To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 07:17:21 -0500, Anne Toal wrote: >Graham brought me home from the hospital last night. Never was so glad to >see the place. There is still a lot of healing to do, so I'll be taking it >easy at home for a week. Here's a weird pair of things that happened which >are coincidental to my hospitalization but they were so remarkable that >the temptation to turn them into "signs" is irresistable: If they weren't signs, they were certainly welcome diversions! Welcome back. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 11:36:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SHaD6q026094 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:36:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7252D1E601E2; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:33:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3763A1E600C6 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:33:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001C1EB2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:26:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14174601 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:26:04 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SHQ3015003 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:26:04 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <46BXG4GF>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 00:26:18 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77616@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: (Long) RE: Spam Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 00:26:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Lynne Weber [mailto:lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] >Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 11:24 AM >--- Phil Paxton wrote: >> To be honest, I don't remember the last time I >> received a message prefixed >> by "ADV" > >I don't know if I've EVER seen it. > >Welcome back, from another newbie - but with one >proviso. The last meeber we welcomed back seems to >have been somewhat disoriented - took us for another >group, I believe. Are you sure you have no connection >to Bizarro Bill? You know, peanut butter and all that >jazz? Nope. Definitely this group. I'd never diss the Orient. Want to see something interesting? This is from my director, who lives in Moorpark, CA. I work for him via phone and email (he's the only member of our company out there - the other 98% of us are here in Indy): I'm back in today. You may have heard about the fires out here, we are right in the middle of them. We were put on "voluntary evacuation" Saturday evening as the flames came to within 1/4 mile of our house and it continued to skirt the perimeter of Moorpark all day on Sunday. With fire on two sides of the city, there were record highs (110 degrees) at the center of the city yesterday. We are out of danger as long as the winds hold in their current direction. The freeways all around our house are closed as they are literally packed with emergency vehicles. There are two problems 1) power is intermittant (I've lost power more times that I can count in the last two days). They are also talking about implementing rolling blackouts if the power consumption gets too high. 2) We were able to get out of town yesterday when the smoke got so thick inside the house that I couldn't see from the front door to the back door. As long as the winds stay down it shouldn't be a problem, but if they kick up, then I may have to go back over to my parents house. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 11:36:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SHar6q026097 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:36:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1521D1E601E2; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:33:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE5811E600C6 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:33:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001C1ED6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:26:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14174653 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:26:43 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SHQh015136 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:26:43 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001C1EDD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:26:43 -0500 Message-Id: <200310281726.h9SHQh015136@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:26:43 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 07:30:21 -0700, John Williams wrote: >Evelyn Duncan wrote: > >> "We Love the 70s," and someone said that that movie >> could not be made today due to political correctness. > > MADE? It can't even be *shown*. The broadcast version is so >bowderlized as to constitute an entirely different film. > >JMW Yes, and why is it that the new version is so much dirtier than the old one, now that the bad words have been excised? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 11:40:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SHeY6q026150 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:40:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EB79A1E6023C; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:37:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBC531E601E2 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:37:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001C1EFB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:30:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14174995 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:30:24 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SHUO016142 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:30:24 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9SHU8eO003170 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:30:08 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9SHU7a2003150 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:30:07 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031028092551.00a63ec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:27:11 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Made it back home In-Reply-To: <200310281217.h9SCHL618495@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Welcome home, Anne. What a scary experience you have been through. Betty At 07:17 AM 10/28/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Graham brought me home from the hospital last night. Never was so glad to >see the place. There is still a lot of healing to do, so I'll be taking it >easy at home for a week. Here's a weird pair of things that happened which >are coincidental to my hospitalization but they were so remarkable that >the temptation to turn them into "signs" is irresistable: > >1) SIGN 1: The night before we left on our mad drive to Houston a >meteorite burned out directly overhead. It was visible a long time as >meteorites go: maybe 2 seconds. I was outside at the time and I looked up >because I thought I saw a fast-moving jet. But here's the weirdest thing: >I am pretty sure I heard the "hiss" that has been theorized that might be >direct stimulation of the ear nerve. Because how can you hear something >simultaneously with a light that's 100,000 feet up? > >2). SIGN 2: Coming home from the hospital yesterday we spotted a rare >migration of eagles through a residential neighborhood in McAllen. This is >the first time in my life I've ever seen an eagle in the Valley. They were >majestic and it is easy to see why Native American religion considers them >sacred animals. > >At the risk of appearing to be mentally feeble I will not interpret these >signs. In all likelihood they are not signs at all but merely a pair of >extraordinary events made to seem important because they happened near a >traumatic event. Maybe so, maybe not. > >Thank you for your well wishes, and thank those of you who wrote private >letters. Wordslers are a good group of people. > >-aht From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 11:46:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SHkT6q026249 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:46:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3030B1E6023C; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:43:19 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F326D1E6021B for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:43:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001C1F12@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:36:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14175521 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:36:16 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SHaG917505 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:36:16 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001C1F0C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:36:15 -0500 Message-Id: <200310281736.h9SHaG917505@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:36:10 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: big oil and the cost of empire To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:12:18 -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Marty Rosen [mailto:meeberphobia@HOTMAIL.COM] >>Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:42 AM >>To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>Subject: Re: big oil and the cost of empire >> >> >>Oh, go ahead and be pedantic. It's words-l, after all. >> >> >>>From: Phil Paxton >>> >> >>> >>Following the G7 meeting in Dubai, markets received a wake up call >>> >>>Not to be pedantic, but isn't it G8 now? (but I can't remember which >>>country >>>is #8 (Russia?)) > >Yeah, but I've been away - I don't know how much the climate has changed. Only if the following is unexpected: "This is words-fucking-L, after all". clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 12:01:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SI1m6q026406 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:01:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F14061E6023D; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:58:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEDA81E6023C for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:58:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2333F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:51:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14176533 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:51:38 -0500 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SHpc920196 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:51:38 -0500 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E8EF7F3 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:51:38 -0500 (EST) From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "Words-l" Subject: Where are Karen or Tushar? Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:51:39 -0500 Message-ID: <000201c39d7c$23573850$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU My list mail volume has dropped. Has Tushar left for a reason? or has Karen left for a reason? Is she ok? Is he ok? Anyone know? alec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 12:11:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SIBQ6q026527 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:11:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EFD601E6029E; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:08:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC291E6023D for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:08:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001C1FE1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:01:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14177205 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:01:16 -0500 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SI1G922188 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:01:16 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.10.376b5d95 (4539) for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:00:01 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <10.376b5d95.2cd008a0@aol.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:00:00 EST Subject: Re: Katzen Report To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/28/2003 3:16:39 AM, Espen.Ore@NB.NO writes: >The definite article of *all* German nouns is "den" in dative plural. > Oh shoot, I completely forgot, but now that you mention it, it seems to slowly creep back! Darnit, age does lots of things, not all good either. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 12:19:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SIJL6q026633 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:19:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A16191E602AD; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:16:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B2861E6029E for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:16:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2339C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:09:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14177731 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:09:11 -0500 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SI9B923532 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:09:11 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.a1.3fc4a21d (4539) for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:08:48 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:08:48 EST Subject: Re: Made it back home To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/28/2003 6:17:36 AM, toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM writes: >Graham brought me home from the hospital last night. Never was so glad >to >see the place. I know the feeling; been through it several times. Take it easy, and get back on your feet as soon as is reasonable. I'm still struggling with my broken hip, but at least I'm at home. All my best wishes for a speedy recovery. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 12:26:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SIQ56q026692 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:26:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A6A2F1E602B0; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:22:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4897C1E602AD for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:22:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001C204F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:15:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14178378 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:15:55 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SIFs925090 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:15:54 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-175.inebraska.com [206.222.202.175]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9SIFqth012710 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:15:53 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000401c39d7f$76e173c0$afcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77615@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Subject: Re: tv show idea? Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:15:27 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Phil: the cast of CSI. They felt they weren't consulted and didn't think there > should be a sister show until CSI was into syndication. (they're looking for > another city to develop another spinoff) > > So the question remains: has anyone else gone through this, known someone > who has, or just plain have some guidance? Can't help you but I'm so glad you brought the subject up. Already, just from this post I learned some things I needed to know. I've told the list before about Hawaiian Japanese friends of mine who have a unique and very interesting family story that would make a good movie plot. It's a large family and I don't know how some of them would feel about it, but the only child of the oldest child has asked if I can be helpful in making a contact. She wants the story done. I've been dragging my feet, but feel maybe I could at least make an effort to help her. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 12:42:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SIgE6q026928 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:42:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AF5E71E60247; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:39:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4878A1E60244 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:39:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A234C6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:32:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14180444 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:32:04 -0500 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SIW3929199 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:32:03 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.68.36bbf8a2 (4539) for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:31:26 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <68.36bbf8a2.2cd00ffd@aol.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:31:25 EST Subject: Re: Greetings & Salutations (10+ years later) To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/28/2003 8:57:28 AM, PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM writes: >>Is this the Phil I know? Anyway, welcome back. >>IIRC, there were a couple of them. I'm sure now that you're the one I was thinking of, because of that car accident you were in. I wasn't as "lucky" as you were because I lost my hearing almost completely, and will never walk again. But I'm still able to take care of some much loved animal friends, so all is not without meaning. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 12:50:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SIoc6q026992 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:50:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A675A1E602B7; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:47:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C851A1E602B3 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:47:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2351B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:40:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14181069 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:40:27 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SIeR930632 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:40:27 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001C2154@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:40:26 -0500 Message-Id: <200310281840.h9SIeR930632@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:40:27 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Where are Karen or Tushar? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:51:39 -0500, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: >My list mail volume has dropped. Has Tushar left for a reason? or has Karen >left for a reason? Is she ok? Is he ok? Anyone know? > > >alec Both Tushar and Karen have private email that still works. Talk to them! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 12:54:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SIsY6q027019 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:54:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 788541E602B6; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:51:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECCD81E60247 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:51:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2353C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:44:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14181416 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:44:23 -0500 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SIiN931443 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:44:23 -0500 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 780DDE5 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:44:22 -0500 (EST) From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Where are Karen or Tushar? Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:44:23 -0500 Message-ID: <000401c39d83$817bb2b0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <200310281840.h9SIeR930632@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Carolyn Ostrander >Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 1:40 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Where are Karen or Tushar? > > >On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:51:39 -0500, Alec D. Plotkin > wrote: > >>My list mail volume has dropped. Has Tushar left for a >reason? or has Karen >>left for a reason? Is she ok? Is he ok? Anyone know? >> >> >>alec > >Both Tushar and Karen have private email that still works. >Talk to them! > >clo > I would, but that is not the Words-l way. I will not lose sleep over their departure. alec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 12:55:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SItE6q027025 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:55:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5569F1E602B6; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:52:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F11C41E60247 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:52:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001C217A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:45:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14181477 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:45:04 -0500 Received: from imo-r01.mx.aol.com (imo-r01.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.97]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SIj4931587 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:45:04 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.111.29ef6fb5 (4539) for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:43:44 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <111.29ef6fb5.2cd012e0@aol.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:43:44 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Where are Karen or Tushar? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/28/2003 12:40:35 PM Central Standard Time, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: Both Tushar and Karen have private email that still works. Talk to them! Addresses, please! Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 13:14:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SJEd6q027303 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:14:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C6F321E602B6; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:11:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DA151E602B3 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:11:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A23607@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:04:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14183467 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:04:29 -0500 Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com (web20502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9SJ4R903514 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:04:28 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:04:26 PST Message-ID: <20031028190426.12501.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:04:26 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200310281726.h9SHQh015136@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Yes, and why is it that the new version is so much > dirtier than the old > one, now that the bad words have been excised? Now, it's "fill in the blanks". __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 13:25:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SJPF6q027420 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:25:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5DEB11E602B9; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:22:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AD451E602B7 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:22:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A23675@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:15:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14184665 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:15:03 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9SJEw906283 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:14:58 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:14:52 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:14:31 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Where are Karen or Tushar? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h9SJPF6q027420 I don't know about Tushar but Karen is alive and well - and busy. BrP >>> plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU 10/28/03 01:44PM >>> >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Carolyn Ostrander >Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 1:40 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Where are Karen or Tushar? > > >On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:51:39 -0500, Alec D. Plotkin > wrote: > >>My list mail volume has dropped. Has Tushar left for a >reason? or has Karen >>left for a reason? Is she ok? Is he ok? Anyone know? >> >> >>alec > >Both Tushar and Karen have private email that still works. >Talk to them! > >clo > I would, but that is not the Words-l way. I will not lose sleep over their departure. alec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 13:33:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SJXo6q027490 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:33:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2847E1E602BB; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:30:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABC231E602B9 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:30:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A236B7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:23:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14185545 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:23:39 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SJNd908951 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:23:39 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001C22F5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:23:38 -0500 Message-Id: <200310281923.h9SJNd908951@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:23:39 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:04:26 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> Yes, and why is it that the new version is so much >> dirtier than the old >> one, now that the bad words have been excised? > > >Now, it's "fill in the blanks". Honi soit qui mal y pense? Je vous assure, I am no dirtier now than when I watch the original, but thanks for the implication - I feel so naughty! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 14:03:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SK3e6q027865 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:03:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 028B31E60251; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:00:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5313A1E6024C for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:00:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A237F6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:53:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14188609 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:53:28 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SJrS916901 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:53:28 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9SJrNQg2949130 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:53:23 -0600 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:53:23 -0600 (CST) From: nam gal sips clark X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Where are Karen or Tushar? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 28 Oct 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: > I don't know about Tushar but Karen is alive and well - and busy. Can we take that to mean she found a job? If so, good news. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 14:29:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SKTc6q028135 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:29:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1EAA41E602B7; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:26:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 619F71E60257 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:26:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001C2522@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 15:19:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14191408 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 15:19:26 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SKJP922966 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 15:19:26 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <20031028201918012006bn38e>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:19:19 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031028110011.05a5a2d8@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:19:33 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: (Long) RE: Spam In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77616@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton writes, >Want to see something interesting? This is from my director, who lives in >Moorpark, CA. Thanks, Phil -- it's evocative. I hope your director and his possessions are okay. In the late 80's, we used to live in Thousand Oaks, about 10 miles south of there. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 15:41:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SLf56q028883 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 15:41:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5588F1E602C3; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 15:37:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF4631E602C1 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 15:37:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A23C2E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:30:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14198858 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:30:53 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f14.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SLUq905894 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:30:53 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:30:46 -0800 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:30:46 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Where are Karen or Tushar? Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:30:46 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Oct 2003 21:30:46.0715 (UTC) FILETIME=[BFEF20B0:01C39D9A] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm okay, are you okay? Also, Karen is okay. Tushar, now that I'm not so sure about, but I have hopes that he's writing something more tangible than words-l posts. >From: "Alec D. Plotkin" >>My list mail volume has dropped. Has Tushar left for a reason? or has >>Karen >left for a reason? Is she ok? Is he ok? Anyone know? > > >alec _________________________________________________________________ Surf and talk on the phone at the same time with broadband Internet access. Get high-speed for as low as $29.95/month (depending on the local service providers in your area). https://broadband.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 15:44:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SLiH6q028909 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 15:44:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A22C91E602C3; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 15:41:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F0C31E602C1 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 15:41:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001C27F4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:34:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14199151 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:34:05 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f72.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SLY4906582 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:34:04 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:33:59 -0800 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:33:58 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: big oil and the cost of empire Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:33:58 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Oct 2003 21:33:59.0099 (UTC) FILETIME=[329A98B0:01C39D9B] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thanks, Pete. These are interesting; I think I'll bookmark that Black Commentary page. I think Paul Krugman has also written something suggesting that Bush's fiscal policies may pose a crisis for the dollar. >Two more articles on the same subject: >http://www.blackcommentator.com/60/60_cover_iraq.html >http://tinyurl.com/spb0 >which is a shortcut for: >http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:C-Q4p2LxTHMJ:mondediplo.com/2003/10/11euro >Pete _________________________________________________________________ Concerned that messages may bounce because your Hotmail account has exceeded its 2MB storage limit? Get Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 16:15:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SMFL6q029149 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:15:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9C16B1E602C3; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:12:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 437691E602BD for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:12:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A23E5D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:05:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14203923 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:05:10 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SM59V15456 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:05:09 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <46BXGWJB>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 05:05:23 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7761D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: Speaking of spam and spammish stuff Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 05:05:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU As it appears some may not be on the cutting edge... Does anyone here get unsolicited faxes? Did you know you can do something about it? Did you know it's because of a federal law? (no ifs ands or buts) http://www.ucan.org/consumer_info/TCPA.htm http://consumer.net/telemarketing/consumer.asp http://www.tcpalaw.com/ What this amounts to is there is no such thing as "opt out", or anything - unless and until you specifically request faxes to be sent, they are on the hook. $1'500 per episode. If you can't get the person(s) who originally sent the fax, they always have a phone number or email address you can contact, making it pretty easy to sucker them into providing a street address, which is enough for them to be served by the courts. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 16:25:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SMPE6q029275 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:25:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 848501E602C7; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:22:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 445931E602C4 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:22:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A23EB7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:15:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14204666 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:15:03 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SMF2V16913 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:15:02 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <46BXGWK1>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 05:15:17 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7761E@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Greetings & Salutations (10+ years later) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 05:15:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Theo Groothof [mailto:Dutchessg1@AOL.COM] >Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 1:31 PM >In a message dated 10/28/2003 8:57:28 AM, PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM writes: > >>>Is this the Phil I know? Anyway, welcome back. > >>>IIRC, there were a couple of them. > >I'm sure now that you're the one I was thinking of, because of that car >accident you were in. I wasn't as "lucky" as you were because >I lost my hearing >almost completely, and will never walk again. >But I'm still able to take care of some much loved animal >friends, so all is >not without meaning. Wow. I think we all suffer certain things in different ways. I've had earaches so severe I've been profoundly deaf in that ear, but never able to conceive both ears at the same time. BTW, we only have twenty-eight people working here and one of them is deaf. We didn't hire her to employ a Token (capitalized as a name, see South Park) as she's very capable. And the closest I can come to understanding not being able to walk is knee surgery - going from being able to run pretty fast to bedridden for some time. How impaired are you - wheelchair? braces? cane? (Not to be nosey, just attempting to comprehend your situation) Isn't "animal friends" redundant? Sorry, I couldn't resist. I've got a coworker who just welcomed their fifth child into their family. I mentioned people in the fire would frequently say, "We hope our pets are able to survive the fire because we didn't pick them up when we left - just some irreplaceable pictures." and said, "I don't think they really thought that much of their family members. There's no way I'd leave mine behind. He said, "Most shelters wouldn't take pets." I know he couldn't see me equating his children with my dogs, but I said, "then I wouldn't live in a shelter. I'd live in the car or beside the car while they were in it. There's no way I'd put them in a position of not controlling their own fate." From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 17:09:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SN9A6q029699 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:09:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2E8E51E602CB; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:05:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D79CE1E602C9 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:05:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A23FC0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:58:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14207473 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:58:58 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SMwwV22180 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:58:58 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.103]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031028225852.IEFS1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:58:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9EF4AC.344123FA@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:58:52 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Spam References: <003101c39c8a$c4347d20$afcadece@0018079268> <3F9D9856.97D32D82@maynor.net> <000601c39ce0$408b8a80$afcadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031028063100.00b26928@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > >Like that, yes. Is it true, Bonniemae, that nuns take duck-walks in > >asparagus patches? We thought that was sooooo funny in jr high or so. > > -- Natalie > > I never heard that one. Actually, my memory of it is that it was "nuns doing sit-ups in an asparagus patch," but sit-ups don't seem right for the point (so to speak). It was some kind we used fairly often. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 17:10:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SNAR6q029718 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:10:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2524D1E602C8; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:07:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC9B1E602C6 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:07:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001C2B24@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 18:00:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14207716 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 18:00:15 -0500 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9SN0FV22694 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 18:00:15 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 15:00:14 PST Message-ID: <20031028230014.10759.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 15:00:14 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Greetings & Salutations (10+ years later) To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7761E@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Isn't "animal friends" redundant? Sorry, I couldn't > resist. I've got a > coworker who just welcomed their fifth child into > their family. I mentioned > people in the fire would frequently say, "We hope > our pets are able to > survive the fire because we didn't pick them up when > we left - just some > irreplaceable pictures." and said, "I don't think > they really thought that > much of their family members. There's no way I'd > leave mine behind. He > said, "Most shelters wouldn't take pets." I know he > couldn't see me equating > his children with my dogs, but I said, "then I > wouldn't live in a shelter. > I'd live in the car or beside the car while they > were in it. There's no way > I'd put them in a position of not controlling their > own fate." On this point, I feel you will find vehement concurrence. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 17:12:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SNCb6q029749 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:12:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B50751E602C8; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:09:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6382B1E602C6 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:09:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A24000@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 18:02:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14207839 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 18:02:25 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SN2OV23001 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 18:02:24 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.103]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031028230219.IFTF1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 18:02:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9EF57B.4FD0E55F@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:02:19 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie - help please! References: <3F9D9D6E.6CC22171@maynor.net> <3F9DDE61.3686D765@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >long wait. If both of your flights are NW Airlink flights, you won't go > >into the main concourses at all. You'll be out there in Concourse A, > >where all the little mosquito-sized planes come and go, and where the > >passengers are led like rows of ducks to get onto the little planes. > > That will work! Concourse A is very boring except for the people-watching. I remember enjoying a funny moment one time in Concourse A, while waiting for a plane to GTR. A drunk man was cussing loudly into a telephone, while beside him the yoga-teaching widow of a colleague of mine was sweeping her arms around doing yoga things. I don't think I'm capturing the of the scene. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 17:14:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SNEd6q029767 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:14:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D3E691E6000A; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:11:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 999441E602CA for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:11:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A23FFE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 18:04:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14207940 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 18:04:27 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SN4RV23232 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 18:04:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.103]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031028230417.IGSP1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 18:04:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9EF5F1.3B9A9B64@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:04:17 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: big oil and the cost of empire References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen wrote: > > Any thoughts on this and its implications for our portfolios? I think I blogged either that or something almost identical to it a week or so ago. Or maybe I didn't. I do remember reading it and finding it scary, but it might have been one of those days when I was rushing too much to do much blogging. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 17:17:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SNHB6q029784 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:17:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5F9141E602CA; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:13:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E5A41E6000A for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:13:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001C2B4D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 18:06:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14208094 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 18:06:59 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SN6xV23490 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 18:06:59 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.103]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031028230654.IHYD1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 18:06:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9EF683.1B913FAC@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:06:43 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Greetings & Salutations (10+ years later) References: <68.36bbf8a2.2cd00ffd@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > > In a message dated 10/28/2003 8:57:28 AM, PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM writes: > > >>Is this the Phil I know? Anyway, welcome back. > > >>IIRC, there were a couple of them. > > I'm sure now that you're the one I was thinking of, because of that car > accident you were in. But that was after Phil left us, wasn't it? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 17:21:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SNLR6q029822 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:21:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DD9F61E602CD; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:18:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB3981E602CC for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:18:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A24023@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 18:11:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14208383 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 18:11:15 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SNBAV24138 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 18:11:10 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.103]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031028231105.IJRC1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 18:11:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9EF789.37CC148E@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:11:05 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Greetings & Salutations (10+ years later) References: <20031028230014.10759.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > I'd live in the car or beside the car while they > > were in it. There's no way > > I'd put them in a position of not controlling their > > own fate." > > On this point, I feel you will find vehement > concurrence. Indeed. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 17:54:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9SNsm6q030126 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:54:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1FEBF1E602CC; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:48:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E11191E602CB for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:48:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001C2C3E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 18:41:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14210734 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 18:41:57 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SNfvV28413 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 18:41:57 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003102823415101300af8jme>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 23:41:51 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031028152945.03cee990@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 15:42:06 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Spam In-Reply-To: <3F9EF4AC.344123FA@maynor.net> References: <003101c39c8a$c4347d20$afcadece@0018079268> <3F9D9856.97D32D82@maynor.net> <000601c39ce0$408b8a80$afcadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031028063100.00b26928@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, >Actually, my memory of it is that it was "nuns doing sit-ups in an >asparagus patch," but sit-ups don't seem right for the point (so to >speak). It was some kind we used fairly often. The web knows these: "the height of passion: two old maids playing squat tag in an asparagus patch" "more fun than a teenage girl playing squat tag in an asparagus patch" Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 19:01:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9T11i6q030885 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:01:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5F1211E60004; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 18:58:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 301B41E60003 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 18:58:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001C2D91@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:51:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14213551 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:51:31 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9T0fUV02228 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:41:31 -0500 Received: (qmail 91190 invoked by uid 1003); 29 Oct 2003 00:41:29 -0000 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 18:41:29 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Where are Karen or Tushar? Message-ID: <20031029004129.GA80248@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 04:30:46PM -0500, Marty Rosen wrote: > I'm okay, are you okay? Also, Karen is okay. Tushar, now that I'm not so > sure about, but I have hopes that he's writing something more tangible than > words-l posts. Alas, computer programs are not more tangible than words-l posts. I have been promised an almost entirely work-free November, which is when I will take up rewriting old stuff and writing new stuff. A couple of days ago I passed this electronics shop near my place which streams low-volume music to the sidewalk all day ... it was very late at night and I don't mind saying I was transfixed to hear what sounded like a hybrid hamsdhvani (which is an Indian raga) on a flute. So I strolled past it again yesterday night--it was the same damn music again and this time it felt considerably annoying. Outside their door, I saw a pile of free magazines, and I picked one up and came home. My disappointment was complete when I opened it and saw every freaking variety of weird doctors, life coaches, energy balancers, oil sellers and so on ... Therefore, the music must have come from the flute of Chaurasia, verily the Kenny G of Indian music. Feh ... Speaking of yoga, what's with the absolutely ridiculous convention of using the image of some chick sitting cross-legged to hawk just about anything claiming to be "simple" or "trouble-free" to use... Stoopid...! The aforementioned chick almost always has a trouble- FULL expression on her face, notice that? Mostly a fake, sly grin. Finally, observe the groundbreaking cover of Time, scanned for your convenience at: http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005UQ63.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg "New Age mumbo jumbo?" ... My question is, exactly WHO thinks it's mumbo jumbo? I don't know of anybody who rejects the notion of "taking it easy" as a healthful activity. God, Time sucks ... Reminds me of a USA Today "special report" the other day: "from Frodo to Neo, geek is suddenly chic". What an irresistible damn hook. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 19:04:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9T14k6q030906 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:04:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4A6B71E60238; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:01:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4EB51E6000D for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:01:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A24290@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:54:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14213705 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:54:23 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9T0iNV02624 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:44:23 -0500 Received: (qmail 92247 invoked by uid 1003); 29 Oct 2003 00:44:21 -0000 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 18:44:21 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: big oil and the cost of empire Message-ID: <20031029004421.GB80248@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 10:17:42AM -0500, Marty Rosen wrote: > Any thoughts on this and its implications for our portfolios? This article seems highly unsupportive of our troops. I disagree strongly with it. > >Big Oil and the Cost of Empires by Jes Black > > > >As a rule, the power of all great empires diminishes over time as > >governments willingly debase their currency to meet soaring expenditures. > >Rome and England are prime examples, each abandoning sound monetary policy > >as the cost of empire spiraled out of control. Eventually, their currencies > >lost "reserve" status. > > > >Howard Dean grasped this truth, saying on Wednesday to reporters at the New > >York Times that President Bush was "setting the stage for the failure of > >America." The Times reports Dean as saying, "If you look at what's happened > >to other great countries, they get in trouble when they can't manage their > >money, and this president's certainly proven himself adept at that , and > >they get in trouble when they overstretch their military capabilities." > > > > [...] From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 19:13:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9T1DK6q031022 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:13:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D9D8E1E60005; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:08:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA3D1E60003 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:08:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A242D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:01:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14214237 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:01:05 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9T0p4V03804 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:51:04 -0500 Received: (qmail 95071 invoked by uid 1003); 29 Oct 2003 00:51:03 -0000 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 18:51:03 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Greetings & Salutations (10+ years later) Message-ID: <20031029005103.GC80248@words-l.org> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7760B@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7760B@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 09:24:17AM -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: > Nice to see you ... unfortunately, I must leave now From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 19:13:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9T1DK6q031025 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:13:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F0BA61E60263; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:08:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C16EB1E60238 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:08:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A242C7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:01:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14214854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:01:42 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9T11gV04999 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:01:42 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.103]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031029010136.XOCC1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:01:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9F1170.AAF3C487@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:01:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: YaY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm almost sure that Debt Management Foundation was the caller I reported to the no-call-list authorities. But I'm confused about something. I had thought it was a national no-call list that I was on, not a Mississippi one. Is the national one divided up into states? ************ The Mississippi Public Service Commission announced fines on Tuesday of $810,000 against two out of state companies for violation of the state's no-call list. Debt Management Foundation of Largo, Fla., was fined $550,000, and Credit Foundation of America, located in Corona, Ca., was fined $260,000. The ************ from: http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0310/28/bnocall.html I stumbled upon this new story when I went to the Clarion-Ledger web site a minute ago to find something to send to a friend I was just talking with at a gathering of Democrats to hear Barbara Blackmon, she of the abortion controversy, speak. I liked her very much. She is soooo much smarter than our incumbent, but it's pretty certain that Amy-the-Incumbent-Bitch will win by a wide margin. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 19:18:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9T1IO6q031065 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:18:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4051C1E6000D; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:15:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11E511E60005 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:15:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001C2E04@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:08:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14215229 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:08:11 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f101.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9T18BV05759 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:08:11 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:08:05 -0800 Received: from 149.160.22.98 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 01:08:05 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.22.98] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: big oil and the cost of empire Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:08:05 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2003 01:08:05.0995 (UTC) FILETIME=[1BF35BB0:01C39DB9] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Diegetic Mutant Hog >This article seems highly unsupportive of our troops. I disagree >strongly with it. Perhaps it's only unsupportive of our reserves.... > > >as the cost of empire spiraled out of control. Eventually, their >currencies > > >lost "reserve" status. _________________________________________________________________ Send instant messages to anyone on your contact list with MSN Messenger 6.0. Try it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 19:25:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9T1Pm6q031110 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:25:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 36C0F1E60238; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:22:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 094EC1E6000D for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:22:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001C2E32@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:15:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14215610 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:15:35 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9T1FZV06520 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:15:35 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.103]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031029011530.KFKF1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:15:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9F14B1.C62F8B12@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:15:29 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Spam References: <003101c39c8a$c4347d20$afcadece@0018079268> <3F9D9856.97D32D82@maynor.net> <000601c39ce0$408b8a80$afcadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031028063100.00b26928@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031028152945.03cee990@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > >Actually, my memory of it is that it was "nuns doing sit-ups in an > >asparagus patch," but sit-ups don't seem right for the point (so to > >speak). It was some kind we used fairly often. > > The web knows these: > > "the height of passion: two old maids playing squat tag in an asparagus patch" > > "more fun than a teenage girl playing squat tag in an asparagus patch" I've never heard of squat tag before. It was not something known to those of us giggling about nuns in asparagus patches in the '50s. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 19:28:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9T1Se6q031175 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:28:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B1C911E60238; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:25:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F2F51E60003 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:25:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001C2E53@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:18:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14215917 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:18:28 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9T1IRV06898 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:18:28 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003102901182201500t8l7pe> (Authid: adamh1); Wed, 29 Oct 2003 01:18:22 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Greetings & Salutations (10+ years later) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:18:20 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7760C@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Of a more somber note (and medical note), I was hit in a car > accident about > 8 1/2 years ago. Gah. Sorry to hear it. :( My sister Karen was in an accident in 1991 that has left her with chronic pain and no stamina, and it's just No Fun, so I understand your general situation. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 19:31:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9T1VJ6q031191 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:31:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7FCB71E60263; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:28:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 523AC1E60238 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:28:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001C2E38@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:21:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14216009 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:21:07 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9T1L6V07117 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:21:06 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.103]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031029012101.KHJA1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:21:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9F15FD.9AACC2E1@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:21:01 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Spam References: <003101c39c8a$c4347d20$afcadece@0018079268> <3F9D9856.97D32D82@maynor.net> <000601c39ce0$408b8a80$afcadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031028063100.00b26928@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031028152945.03cee990@mail.istori.com> <3F9F14B1.C62F8B12@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > those of us giggling about nuns in asparagus patches in the '50s. And this would be a good phrase to have my Descriptive English Grammar students examine for the question of adverbial or adjectival, re the prepositional phrases. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 19:43:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9T1h16q031289 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:43:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9639E1E60264; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:39:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 669B41E60263 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:39:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001C2E74@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:32:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14216568 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:32:49 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9T1WmV08331 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:32:48 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9T1Wm8b009574 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:32:48 -0500 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.103]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9T1WkfC013682 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:32:47 -0500 Message-ID: <003401c39dbc$8ea66d70$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "Wordslurs" Subject: "Living on Earth" (spoken with histrionics...) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:32:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Check out the PBS LivingOnEarth site. http://loe.org/ ;-) I know *I* have a solution for bold mountain lions. It's involves a chain reaction... first, a small amount of lead styphnate is initiated with a whack from a nail shaped object... this then initiates a deflagration in an otherwise detonable nitrocellulose, stabilized with tin... the expanding gasses propel a copper jacketed lead mass at supersonic speeds through a grooved tube which causes it to spin orthogonal to the direction of travel, thereby gyroscopically giving the projectile a more sure trajectory in open air. The tube has an index on it so that the trajectory of the projectile may be mapped out across large distances. It's a long range drill and it can put holes in all kinds of things... including marauding mountain lions. ;-P 'Alan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 19:58:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9T1wG6q031447 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:58:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A54521E60238; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:55:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74C911E60003 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:55:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001C2EE2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:48:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14217404 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:48:02 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9T1m2V10257 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:48:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.103]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031029014756.ZTXO1852.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:47:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9F1C4C.33FA86BF@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:47:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: "Living on Earth" (spoken with histrionics...) References: <003401c39dbc$8ea66d70$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Speaking of mountain lions -- DIE KATZEN ARE NO LONGER MY RESPONSBILITY!! I was worried late this afternoon about the last-minute change in plans. I knew that the reclusive neighbor was due to return tonight, and my intention had been to leave Ugly inside and to keep the key instead of locking it up inside the house since I thought the idea of not being able to get into a house that contained a captive cat was not good -- as in what if he called and said he was delayed or he died on the highway or whatever. But just as I was writing a note in his kitchen, telling him that Ugly had been inside since Saturday afternoon and that the cats had last been fed around 3:30 today, Ugly left her food bowls and went to the door and was meowing quite vociferously. She clearly wanted out. Since the weather had changed back to sunny warmth, I let her out. I stood at the door watching her for a little while, thinking that maybe she would decide to come on back in, but she seemed quite happy to be outside. So I scratched through part of the note I had just written and said "see back" and wrote a note on the back about the changed plan -- that Ugly was now outside. Then I went on and left the key (since I really didn't want to be bothered with returning it to the recluse later) and locked things up. What then worried me was that maybe he wasn't going to get home until midnight or so and that it might suddenly get colder or start raining and that I couldn't get back into the house but that a cat wouldn't be like a dog in letting me just pick her up and bring her to my house -- nor would Spencer much like such a scenario. And I thought about how maybe Ugly, annoyed at her week of abuse, might run away from home (her age and stay-at-homeness made me think that wasn't likely, but it still worried me). That was all around 3:30. When I left about 5:45 to go hear Barbara Blackmon, I was delighted to see that zillions of lights were on in the recluse's house, the garage door was open, and his car was sitting there, Iow, he's home. I trust that Ugly was there to greet him. I will feel better if I see him tomorrow and find that both cats were alive and well. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 20:44:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9T2iw6q032082 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:44:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9AF311E60263; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:41:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63D2C1E6000E for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:41:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A24469@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:34:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14219223 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:34:44 -0500 Received: from web20501.mail.yahoo.com (web20501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.136]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9T2YiV14931 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:34:44 -0500 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 18:34:40 PST Message-ID: <20031029023440.18998.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 18:34:40 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Katzen Report To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <10.376b5d95.2cd008a0@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Oh shoot, I completely forgot, but now that you > mention it, it seems to > slowly creep back! Darnit, age does lots of things, > not all good either. Well, not that you mention it, what are the good things about it? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 20:49:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9T2ng6q032109 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:49:42 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D5A231E60264; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:46:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4CB91E60010 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:46:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A24473@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:39:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14219339 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:39:29 -0500 Received: from web20513.mail.yahoo.com (web20513.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9T2dTV15297 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:39:29 -0500 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20513.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 18:39:26 PST Message-ID: <20031029023926.65268.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 18:39:26 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Greetings & Salutations (10+ years later) To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031029005103.GC80248@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 09:24:17AM -0500, Phil > Paxton wrote: > > > > Nice to see you ... unfortunately, I must leave now One can really become rattled by persona morphs in the midst of a thread. Bye, for now. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 20:56:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9T2ua6q032215 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:56:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 71F221E60010; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:53:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CEBE1E6000E for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:53:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A24487@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:46:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14219529 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:46:22 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9T2kMV15812 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:46:22 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9T2kM8b011447 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:46:22 -0500 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.103]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9T2kKfC024812 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:46:20 -0500 Message-ID: <002d01c39dc6$d4fb24a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <003401c39dbc$8ea66d70$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3F9F1C4C.33FA86BF@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: "Living on Earth" (spoken with histrionics...) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:46:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" > I trust that Ugly was there to > greet him. I will feel better if I see him tomorrow and find that both > cats were alive and well. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) *If* they returned to him... I mean, "Ugly is as ugly does... ma momma taught me that." Maybe Ugly brought a honkin mouse for Recluse to consume at the doorstep once he got home... I mean, cats have no trouble with food, little trouble with shelter, and less trouble leaving non-symbiotic humans, or whatever they call'em. My question is whether to respect in a higher regard the autonomous intelligence of a cat, or the altruistic intelligence of a dog... ? Which is *more* intelligent? ... the dog, or the cat? 'Alan (woofow, or... mewoof) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 21:03:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9T33N6q032276 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:03:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 973651E60010; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:00:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 694DE1E6000E for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:00:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001C2F9C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:53:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14219763 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:53:09 -0500 Received: from web20509.mail.yahoo.com (web20509.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.144]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9T2r9V16399 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:53:09 -0500 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20509.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 18:53:08 PST Message-ID: <20031029025308.69892.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 18:53:08 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Katzen Again To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Has their papa gotten home yet? Does he look the least bit shady - as in shenanigans involving missing meebers? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 21:07:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9T37p6q032340 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:07:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A2F851E60012; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:04:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7166B1E60010 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:04:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A244B1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:57:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14219848 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:57:37 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9T2vbV16730 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:57:37 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.103]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031029025732.KKDW1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:57:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9F2C9B.31C9D79A@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:57:31 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: "Living on Earth" (spoken with histrionics...) References: <003401c39dbc$8ea66d70$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3F9F1C4C.33FA86BF@maynor.net> <002d01c39dc6$d4fb24a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alan Wild wrote: > > I trust that Ugly was there to > > greet him. I will feel better if I see him tomorrow and find that both > > cats were alive and well. > > -- > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > *If* they returned to him... I mean, "Ugly is as ugly does... ma momma > taught me that." Maybe Ugly brought a honkin mouse for Recluse to consume > at the doorstep once he got home... I mean, cats have no trouble with food, > little trouble with shelter, and less trouble leaving non-symbiotic humans, > or whatever they call'em. Ugly is old and a long-time family member, I think. So I doubt that she would just up and take a hike. > My question is whether to respect in a higher regard the autonomous > intelligence of a cat, or the altruistic intelligence of a dog... ? > Which is *more* intelligent? ... the dog, or the cat? I ain't about to get into that last question -- since I have no basis for comparison, having always had dogs and never cats. But re the earlier questions, are cats in fact more autonomous re survival? And are dogs more altruistic than cats? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 21:10:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9T3AJ6q032368 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:10:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A4F411E60012; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:07:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7354C1E60010 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:07:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001C2FC8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 22:00:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14219913 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 22:00:06 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9T305V16981 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 22:00:05 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.103]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031029030000.KLCZ1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 22:00:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9F2D30.8AF912E8@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:00:00 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Katzen Again References: <20031029025308.69892.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > Has their papa gotten home yet? Does he look the > least bit shady - as in shenanigans involving missing meebers? You are behind. Indeed their papa is now home. Or at least somebody is lighting up the house and parking in the suddenly-opened garage. I should perhaps investigate this situation. It may well be that Karen and Tushar are shacking up there, after murdering the cat-papa on his drive back from NC in order to take over his house and his cats. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 28 21:41:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9T3fm6q032628 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:41:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E7FA41E60263; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:38:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5FB41E60014 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:38:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2453D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 22:31:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14221324 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 22:31:35 -0500 Received: from web20515.mail.yahoo.com (web20515.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.232.184]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9T3VZV20370 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 22:31:35 -0500 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20515.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:31:34 PST Message-ID: <20031029033134.92587.qmail@web20515.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:31:34 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: "Living on Earth" (spoken with histrionics...) To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F9F2C9B.31C9D79A@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I ain't about to get into that last question -- > since I have no basis > for comparison, having always had dogs and never > cats. But re the > earlier questions, are cats in fact more autonomous > re survival? And > are dogs more altruistic than cats? Very wise. This is a wormier can than politics and organized religion combined. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 03:22:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9T9MO6q003433 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 03:22:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A103F1E60024; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 03:19:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EE131E6001F for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 03:19:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A24E9D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 4:12:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14242169 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 04:12:08 -0500 Received: from mail47.fg.online.no (mail47-s.fg.online.no [148.122.161.47]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9T9C8V23994 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 04:12:08 -0500 Received: from espeno-latt.nb.no (ti211310a080-5746.bb.online.no [80.212.86.114]) by mail47.fg.online.no (8.9.3p2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA23535 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:12:06 +0100 (MET) X-no-archive: yes X-homepage: www.nb.no Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031029101313.00b3b5f8@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:14:02 +0100 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "Espen S. Ore" Subject: Re: Where are Karen or Tushar? In-Reply-To: <20031029004129.GA80248@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 18:41 28.10.2003 -0600, Diegetic Mutant Hog skrev: >Speaking of yoga, what's with the absolutely ridiculous convention >of using the image of some chick sitting cross-legged to hawk just >about anything claiming to be "simple" or "trouble-free" to use... There is such an image on posters for Nirvana ice cream in Greece. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 05:29:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TBTf6q004769 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 05:29:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 35A501E60034; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 05:26:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E26F91E60033 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 05:26:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A25069@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 6:19:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14246142 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 06:19:24 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9TBJOV04267 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 06:19:24 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.160.158]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031029111918.EGHH1852.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 06:19:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9FA236.ECA8EEFA@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 05:19:18 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Look to the Skies, Bonniemae Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ************** When the storm gets here, it will cause a rapid global change in the magnetic field, scientists said, setting the stage for effects ranging from possible power grid shutdowns to cell phone outages and dazzling displays of northern lights in the skies farther south than usual. ************** from: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A31894-2003Oct28.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 07:28:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TDSb6q005813 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 07:28:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D99CC1E60038; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 07:25:19 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A84E51E6003E for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 07:25:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A251C9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 8:18:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14218004 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:18:19 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9TDIJV04880 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:18:19 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:18:19 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:17:48 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Look to the Skies, Bonniemae Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h9TDSb6q005813 For complete details see http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlkop/auralert.html BrP >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 10/29/03 06:19AM >>> ************** When the storm gets here, it will cause a rapid global change in the magnetic field, scientists said, setting the stage for effects ranging from possible power grid shutdowns to cell phone outages and dazzling displays of northern lights in the skies farther south than usual. ************** from: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A31894-2003Oct28.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 07:32:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TDWn6q005832 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 07:32:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 60A301E6003B; 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Wed, 29 Oct 2003 07:12:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 07:12:29 -0600 (CST) From: Natalie Maynor Message-Id: <200310291312.h9TDCTmR006418@ra.msstate.edu> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: ADV Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I had never noticed the spam-marker until the recent list discussion of it. I have two pieces of e-mail marked ADV today -- apparently the same mail but with different senders: Mary Deleon Tue Oct 28 23:42 94/3690 ADV: Valium Xanax Shipped Bill Starks Tue Oct 28 23:42 90/3422 ADV: Valium Xanax Shipped --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 07:38:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TDcI6q005886 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 07:38:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8A4241E6003B; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 07:35:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BF711E60038 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 07:35:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001C3D41@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 8:28:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14218351 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:27:53 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9TDRkV06103 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:27:46 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9TDQg8b021556 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:26:42 -0500 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9TDQgfC020660 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:26:42 -0500 Message-ID: <0bbe01c39e20$4a6ac840$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031029033134.92587.qmail@web20515.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: "Living on Earth" (spoken with histrionics...) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:26:42 -0500 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne Weber" > > I ain't about to get into that last question -- > > since I have no basis > > for comparison, having always had dogs and never > > cats. But re the > > earlier questions, are cats in fact more autonomous > > re survival? And > > are dogs more altruistic than cats? > > Very wise. This is a wormier can than politics and > organized religion combined. Well, certain dogs have greater types of intelligence than others. A GShep has a greater working intelligence, say, than a Chow... I've known about 4 1/2 cats in my time, and they all seem of about the same type of intelligence... are there cats that are more adept at some responsive behaviors than others? 'Alan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 07:55:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TDtA6q006126 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 07:55:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5B0F31E60040; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 07:51:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27FA51E60039 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 07:51:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A25228@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 8:44:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14219289 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:44:51 -0500 Received: from web20509.mail.yahoo.com (web20509.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.144]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9TDipV08666 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:44:51 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20509.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 05:44:50 PST Message-ID: <20031029134450.93100.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 05:44:50 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: YaY To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3F9F1170.AAF3C487@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > I'm almost sure that Debt Management Foundation was > the caller I > reported to the no-call-list authorities. But I'm > confused about > something. I had thought it was a national no-call > list that I was on, > not a Mississippi one. Is the national one divided > up into states? Alabama has had a state no-call list for several years, but it became painfully apparent from the outset that it was a futile exercise. I don't think I've ever heard of any sort of fine schedule, but I'll look. Seems academic, though. > > I stumbled upon this new story when I went to the > Clarion-Ledger web > site a minute ago to find something to send to a > friend I was just > talking with at a gathering of Democrats to hear > Barbara Blackmon, she > of the abortion controversy, speak. I liked her > very much. She is > soooo much smarter than our incumbent, but it's > pretty certain that > Amy-the-Incumbent-Bitch will win by a wide margin. Glad Ms. Blackmon done good. It would be something if she could pull it off. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 07:57:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TDvW6q006137 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 07:57:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B1F1B1E60044; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 07:54:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 819651E60040 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 07:54:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001C3D90@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 8:47:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14219405 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:47:14 -0500 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9TDlCV09071 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:47:12 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 05:47:11 PST Message-ID: <20031029134711.51263.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 05:47:11 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: "Living on Earth" (spoken with histrionics...) To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <003401c39dbc$8ea66d70$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Alan Wild wrote: It's a > long range drill and it > can put holes in all kinds of things... including > marauding mountain lions. But we don't need no stinkin' holy mountain lions around here. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 07:59:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TDxp6q006151 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 07:59:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9CE311E60040; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 07:56:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B3DC1E6003B for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 07:56:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001C3D9F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 8:49:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14219553 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:49:33 -0500 Received: from fe2.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9TDnXV09519 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:49:33 -0500 Received: from [151.199.62.42] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO bc.edu) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.5) with ESMTP id 33650814 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:49:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9FC55B.2070100@bc.edu> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:49:15 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Greetings & Salutations (10+ years later) References: <20031028230014.10759.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> <3F9EF789.37CC148E@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <3F9EF789.37CC148E@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: >Lynne Weber wrote: >I'd live in the car or beside the car while they >were in it. There's no way >I'd put them in a position of not controlling their >own fate." > > >>On this point, I feel you will find vehement >>concurrence. >> >> > >Indeed. > > Without a single doubt! Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 08:01:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TE1U6q006169 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:01:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1EA7F1E60046; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 07:58:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E30A71E60040 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 07:58:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A25248@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 8:51:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14219637 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:51:12 -0500 Received: from fe3.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9TDpBV09712 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:51:11 -0500 Received: from [151.199.62.42] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO bc.edu) by fe3.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.5) with ESMTP id 34819589 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:51:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9FC5C4.1060201@bc.edu> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:51:00 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: "Living on Earth" (spoken with histrionics...) References: <003401c39dbc$8ea66d70$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3F9F1C4C.33FA86BF@maynor.net> <002d01c39dc6$d4fb24a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3F9F2C9B.31C9D79A@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <3F9F2C9B.31C9D79A@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: >Alan Wild wrote: > > >>My question is whether to respect in a higher regard the autonomous >>intelligence of a cat, or the altruistic intelligence of a dog... ? >>Which is *more* intelligent? ... the dog, or the cat? >> >> > >I ain't about to get into that last question -- since I have no basis >for comparison, having always had dogs and never cats. But re the >earlier questions, are cats in fact more autonomous re survival? And >are dogs more altruistic than cats? > > Dogs have the wisdom and intelligence to respect the intelligence of cats. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 08:06:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TE6W6q006199 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:06:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 535721E60045; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:03:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21A1C1E60040 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:03:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A25286@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 8:56:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14220024 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:56:14 -0500 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9TDuEV10809 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:56:14 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 05:56:13 PST Message-ID: <20031029135613.35106.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 05:56:13 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200310281923.h9SJNd908951@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> > >--- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Honi soit qui mal y pense? > Je vous assure, I am no dirtier now than when I > watch the original, > but thanks for the implication - I feel so naughty! That reminds me of the tv commercial that advertises that its air filtering system will make your bathroom smell fresh, "even when it's dirty". So next time I plan to have a dirty bathroom, I will be certain to have this thing installed. Naughty clo. Sounds fetching, somehow. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 08:28:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TESU6q006550 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:28:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ACA171E60045; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:25:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DB0E1E60040 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:25:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001C3E7C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 9:18:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14221494 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:18:11 -0500 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9TEIBV15028 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:18:11 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.3b.3f5abb4d (4340) for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:18:04 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <3b.3f5abb4d.2cd1261c@aol.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:18:04 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] "Living on Earth" (spoken with histrionics...) To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/29/2003 7:28:16 AM Central Standard Time, awild@URI.EDU writes: << I've known about 4 1/2 cats in my time, and they all seem of about the same type of intelligence... are there cats that are more adept at some responsive behaviors than others? >> I'd say that, out of all my cats, Siegi was the brightest. After she went blind, she would holler "Hello!" when she'd come up the stairs. She was also the one who lived to be 19. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 08:41:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TEfQ6q006649 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:41:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 55FB31E60045; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:38:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2323E1E60042 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:38:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A253B7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 9:31:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14222775 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:31:08 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9TEV8V17633 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:31:08 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-2.gwi.net [216.195.151.2]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9TEV6Ar021478 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:31:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031029093022.00b26818@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:31:07 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Look to the Skies, Bonniemae In-Reply-To: <3F9FA236.ECA8EEFA@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alas, I cannot look to the skies without running the risk of drowning in the rain. But thanks for thinking of me. >When the storm gets here, it will cause a rapid global change in the >magnetic field, scientists said, setting the stage for effects ranging >from possible power grid shutdowns to cell phone outages and dazzling >displays of northern lights in the skies farther south than usual. >************** >from: >http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A31894-2003Oct28.html > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 09:11:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TFBl6q006958 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:11:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C44491E60047; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:08:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 590D11E60045 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:08:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A254CF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:01:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14225565 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:01:28 -0500 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9TF1RV24272 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:01:27 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 07:01:25 PST Message-ID: <20031029150125.72758.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 07:01:25 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Look to the Skies, Bonniemae To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031029093022.00b26818@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: > Alas, I cannot look to the skies without running the > risk of drowning in > the rain. But thanks for thinking of me. > bonnie Also, beware of flying at high latitudes. That radiation concentration sounds dangerous. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 09:26:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TFQf6q007080 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:26:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D08AB1E60047; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:23:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 964311E60049 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:23:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001C40CB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:16:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14226147 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:16:22 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9TF6LV25547 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:06:22 -0500 Received: from ra.msstate.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.12.10/8.12.8/ra_1.2) with ESMTP; id h9TF6JaK017862 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:06:19 -0600 (CST) Received: (from maynor@localhost) by ra.msstate.edu (8.12.10/8.12.7/Submit) id h9TF6Jvf017861 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:06:19 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:06:19 -0600 (CST) From: Natalie Maynor Message-Id: <200310291506.h9TF6Jvf017861@ra.msstate.edu> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: I like this Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I was googling to find possible statements by Barbara Blackmon (my Lt Gov candidate) on tort reform, something worrying potential supporters -- making them hesitant to vote for her, and I stumbled upon an article that included this: "She once left a $2,000 tip for a waiter and left him a note advising him to use the money to complete his education." I like that. from: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/08/29/politics/main570766.shtml --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 09:36:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TFas6q007229 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:36:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7A19C1E60046; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:33:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C81C1E60054 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:33:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A255C4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:26:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14227913 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:26:35 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9TFQZV30161 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:26:35 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-2.gwi.net [216.195.151.2]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9TFQVAt034979; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:26:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031029102435.00b1ae30@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:25:06 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Look to the Skies, Bonniemae In-Reply-To: <20031029150125.72758.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031029093022.00b26818@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:01 AM 10/29/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- bonniev wrote: > > Alas, I cannot look to the skies without running the > > risk of drowning in > > the rain. But thanks for thinking of me. > > bonnie > >Also, beware of flying at high latitudes. That >radiation concentration sounds dangerous. Neither of us is planning a trans-polar route. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 09:41:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TFfS6q007280 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:41:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0190F1E6004B; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:38:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FAF71E6004A for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:38:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001C4120@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:31:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14228267 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:31:09 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9TFV9V31171 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:31:09 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9TFV48b028629 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:31:04 -0500 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9TFV3fC028418 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:31:04 -0500 Message-ID: <0cdc01c39e31$a9fca9c0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200310291506.h9TF6Jvf017861@ra.msstate.edu> Subject: Re: I like this Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:31:03 -0500 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" > I was googling to find possible statements by Barbara Blackmon > (my Lt Gov candidate) on tort reform, something worrying potential > supporters -- making them hesitant to vote for her, and I stumbled > upon an article that included this: "She once left a $2,000 tip > for a waiter and left him a note advising him to use the money to > complete his education." I like that. > > from: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/08/29/politics/main570766.shtml > > --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) Such largess... 'smacks of insincerity. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 09:49:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TFnc6q007374 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:49:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2403E1E6004C; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:46:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBCF81E6004B for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:46:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001C4170@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:39:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14229003 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:39:19 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9TFdFV00404 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:39:19 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <46BXG70D>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:39:30 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7761F@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'words-l@listserv.uga.edu'" Subject: Add'l Sources of Interest? Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:39:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Because I still don't know what's in the collective list lore, I'll try to toss things out which may|not have been discussed previously. For the google fans, has anyone visited http://www.google.com/options? There's http://froogle.google.com, where "froogle" represents what it sounds like - "frugal". It's a shopping bot for the entire web (and you'd be surprised how powerful it is). There's also http://labs.google.com, where you can see what Google has on in beta. To wit: http://answers.google.com, where people are willing to pay for answers to their questions. They post a question in [what is hoped to be] the correct category at a price for which they'd like the answer and someone who answers the question collects the fee. Also, there's http://labs.google.com, which is where they have their public-available tools on the assembly line in various states of development. Also, Microsoft has provided access to their research (at least the public version) as well: http://research.microsoft.com There's a lot there, you just have to do a lot of poking & proddng to find it. (e.g. "Chinese Word Segmentation"; "Bilingual Sentence Aligner"-When people translate documents from one language to another, not all sentences are translated one-for-one. This Perl code implements an algorithm for finding which sentences do translate one-for-one in a parallel bilingual corpus; "Natural Language Computing" (Chinese), etc.; as well as lots of other things which aren't necessarily linguistics) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 10:00:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TG086q007454 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:00:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 42B6C1E6004B; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:56:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AC8B1E6004A for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:56:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A25672@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:49:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14229868 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:49:49 -0500 Received: from web20513.mail.yahoo.com (web20513.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9TFnmV02478 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:49:49 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20513.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 07:38:24 PST Message-ID: <20031029153824.56839.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 07:38:24 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Look to the Skies, Bonniemae To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031029102435.00b1ae30@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Neither of us is planning a trans-polar route. > > cwv Well, you never know. Just wanted you to be on the safe side. Also beware of holed mountain lions. It's a habit I can't break, I was a Girl Scout. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 13:01:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TJ1K6q009852 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 13:01:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E67C31E60057; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 12:58:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CCF11E60056 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 12:58:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A25D66@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 13:51:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14247880 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 13:51:00 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9TIp0d10321 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 13:51:00 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h9TIowhQ026544 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 12:50:59 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 12:51:11 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <544378643.20031029125111@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: American troops in Iraq MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Committing suicide in record numbers. http://www.watchblog.com/thirdparty/archives/000346.html Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 13:40:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TJes6q010263 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 13:40:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EF4E71E60065; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 13:37:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE9D1E60061 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 13:37:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A25EC8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:30:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14251324 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:30:33 -0500 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9TJUXd18276 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:30:33 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.91.34f0b58f (17377) for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:29:12 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <91.34f0b58f.2cd16f07@aol.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:29:11 EST Subject: Re: Greetings & Salutations (10+ years later) To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/28/2003 4:15:21 PM, PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM writes: >There's no way >I'd put them in a position of not controlling their own fate." > > Absolutely not!! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 13:46:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TJkK6q010319 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 13:46:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D0DC31E60060; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 13:42:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69F711E6005B for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 13:42:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A25EDF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:35:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14251709 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:35:59 -0500 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9TJZwd19224 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:35:59 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.18c.21a72107 (17377) for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:33:04 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <18c.21a72107.2cd16fef@aol.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:33:03 EST Subject: Re: Katzen Report To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/28/2003 8:34:49 PM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: >Well, not that you mention it, what are the good >things about it? > For one; don't give a shit what other people think or say about you? Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 13:53:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TJr26q010384 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 13:53:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2D9DE1E60061; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 13:49:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE08A1E6005B for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 13:49:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A25F0C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:42:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14252177 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:42:36 -0500 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9TJgad20231 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:42:36 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.18f.21734511 (17377) for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:41:54 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <18f.21734511.2cd17202@aol.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:41:54 EST Subject: Re: Greetings & Salutations (10+ years later) To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/28/2003 4:15:21 PM, PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM writes: >And the closest I can come to understanding not being able to walk is knee surgery - going from being able to run pretty fast to bedridden for some time. How impaired are you - wheelchair? braces? cane? (Not to be nosey just attempting to comprehend your situation) > I don't mind telling you Phil, because you can comprehend better than most people who have been healthy all their lives. The right side of my brain got busted, so my left side is useless. Before I broke my hip I was able to get around a bit if I hung on to something; sink, counter etc. And my dau installed a bunch of grab bars; like in the bathroom. For the rest I use a wheelchair. But now I cannot put any weight on the side of that busted hip; so can't do that either; it's "good" that it broke on the left side! About my hearing: have to wear 2 hearing aids, and weirdly 'nuff the high frequency is worse so I can hear male voices better. Unfortunately, most business operators are female :-( But it's been a long time, and I'm used to it. Just hate to be dependent, and I have no choice sometimes. Hope you recover as much as possible soon, Phil. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 14:56:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TKuj6q011075 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:56:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1C7B41E60064; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:53:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D28E91E6006F for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:53:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001C4C98@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:46:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14257513 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:46:24 -0500 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9TKkNd31051 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:46:23 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 12:46:22 PST Message-ID: <20031029204622.22116.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 12:46:22 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Katzen Report To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <18c.21a72107.2cd16fef@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > For one; don't give a shit what other people think > or say about you? > Theo That's certainly a starting point. The difference is, when you get older, you can get away with it. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 15:04:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TL4v6q011199 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:04:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1205C1E6023A; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:01:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A469A1E6006F for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:01:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2618A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:54:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14258028 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:54:36 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9TKsad00351 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:54:36 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.46]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031029205430.RADC1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:54:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA02907.52A349FD@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:54:31 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: The White Dog! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just saw him on the jerky, terrible streaming video of the student tv station. The problem is that he's very near the end of the 30-minute program -- a program made by students in a class -- different students each week, some who probably won't pass. Even fast-forwarding it takes a good while to get to The White Dog -- not to be confused with a black dog in somebody's lap at the very end. http://www.msstate.edu/dept/utc/projects/take30.htm -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 15:13:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TLDX6q011335 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:13:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 19CD41E6006F; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:10:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D851E1E60064 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:10:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001C4D41@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:03:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14258930 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:03:12 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9TL3Cd02666 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:03:12 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.46]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031029210305.RERG1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:03:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA02B0A.C2F1685B@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:03:06 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The White Dog! References: <3FA02907.52A349FD@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > http://www.msstate.edu/dept/utc/projects/take30.htm I forgot to add that you have to click on Show 5 -- October 27. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 15:47:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TLlQ6q011742 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:47:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A313B1E6006A; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:41:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71E091E60064 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:41:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2631B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:34:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14261623 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:34:04 -0500 Received: from web20516.mail.yahoo.com (web20516.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.232.185]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9TLY4d08960 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:34:04 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20516.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 13:34:02 PST Message-ID: <20031029213402.15963.qmail@web20516.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 13:34:02 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: The White Dog! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FA02907.52A349FD@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > I just saw him on the jerky, terrible streaming > video of the student tv > station. The problem is that he's very near the end > of the 30-minute > program -- a program made by students in a class -- > different students > each week, some who probably won't pass. Even > fast-forwarding it takes > a good while to get to The White Dog -- not to be > confused with a black > dog in somebody's lap at the very end. > > http://www.msstate.edu/dept/utc/projects/take30.htm > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Well, I caa't see him at all, because the message says Windows Media Player does not support this function. ??? What can I do? I want to see even jerky dogs, and especially the White Dog, whom I consider a foster-dog. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 15:48:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TLmI6q011764 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:48:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7FAFA1E6006C; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:44:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BAC41E6006A for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:44:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2632E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:37:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14261795 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:37:57 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f98.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9TLbvd09428 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:37:57 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 13:37:51 -0800 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:37:51 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: troops and suicides: no worry, Rumsfeld is on the case Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:37:51 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2003 21:37:51.0447 (UTC) FILETIME=[E781D670:01C39E64] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >THE WORLD; Joint Chiefs Chairman Worried by Morale Poll >[HOME EDITION] >Los Angeles Times >Los Angeles, Calif. >Oct 17, 2003 > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Pagination: A.5 > >ISSN: 04583035 > >Dateline: WASHINGTON > > >Abstract: > > Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Richard B. Myers expressed concern >Thursday over a survey suggesting major morale problems among U.S. troops >in Iraq, saying he was worried that he and other top officers were >sometimes >allowed to talk only to "all the happy folks" when they visited service >members. > > Myers and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld addressed troop morale >after the Army said at least 13 U.S. soldiers had committed suicide in >Iraq, representing more than 10% of American noncombat deaths there. The >Army said it had dispatched a suicide-prevention expert to assess the >problem. >(Copyright (c) 2003 Los Angeles Times) > >Full Text: > > Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Richard B. Myers expressed concern >Thursday over a survey suggesting major morale problems among U.S. troops >in Iraq, saying he was worried that he and other top officers were >sometimes >allowed to talk only to "all the happy folks" when they visited service >members. > > "I want to see the folks that have complaints. And sometimes they won't >let them near me," Myers said when asked about the Stars and Stripes >newspaper >survey in which half of 1,939 troops responding said morale in their units >was low or very low and that they did not plan to reenlist. > > The newspaper, which receives funding from the Pentagon, also said that >a third of the respondents complained that their mission lacked clear >definition >and that they would characterize the war in Iraq as having little or no >value. > > Four in 10 respondents said their jobs had little or nothing to do with >their training. Some called their tasks "make-work." > > The findings conflict with statements by U.S. commanders in Iraq and >the Bush administration that portray the forces as gung-ho and well >prepared. > > Myers and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld addressed troop morale >after the Army said at least 13 U.S. soldiers had committed suicide in >Iraq, representing more than 10% of American noncombat deaths there. The >Army said it had dispatched a suicide-prevention expert to assess the >problem. > > Rumsfeld said military recruitment and enlistment figures did not >appear >to reflect complaints among Reserve and National Guard troops about >yearlong >tours of duty in Iraq. > > Rumsfeld and Myers said there might be a problem in the Army Reserve, >but they did not specify what it was. > > "I do talk to a great many of the troops," Rumsfeld said. "They seem >up and recognizing the importance of the task they're doing and proud of >what they're doing. On the other hand, I'm sure that you could ... find >people who are concerned about something, or unhappy." ================================ > > > _________________________________________________________________ Surf and talk on the phone at the same time with broadband Internet access. 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From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 15:55:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TLto6q011830 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:55:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C4D7C1E6006C; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:52:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 932EA1E60064 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:52:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A26382@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:45:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14262814 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:45:29 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9TLjTd11319 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:45:29 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.46]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031029214520.WTQL1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:45:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA034F1.CB7AC111@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:45:21 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: YaY References: <20031029134450.93100.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Glad Ms. Blackmon done good. It would be something > if she could pull it off. Yep. But I think the chances are about zero. The abortion flap (recently brought up again, obviously intentionally, when Amy, the incumbent, announced that she was signing the requested affidavit saying she'd never had an abortion) and Blackmon's having voted no to tort reform give her little hope. I noticed in today's Starkville paper a large ad signed by every doctor in town talking about doctors fleeing the state because of lawsuits and supporting Amy since she's for tort reform (now that she's decided that's the politically wise choice -- all of her decisions seem to be based on how many votes they'll get for her). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 15:59:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TLx16q011859 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:59:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 797311E6006C; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:55:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 474E11E60064 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:55:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001C4ED9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:48:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14263094 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:48:40 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9TLmed11815 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:48:40 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.46]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031029214834.WVTI1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:48:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA035B0.EE709C30@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:48:32 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: "Living on Earth" (spoken with histrionics...) References: <3b.3f5abb4d.2cd1261c@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > After she went blind, she would holler "Hello!" when > she'd come up the stairs. She was also the one who Ugly started talking yesterday afternoon -- as in uttering words. I couldn't understand them, though. I think they were in a foreign language. Or perhaps she was speaking in tongues. I think her human companion is very religious. I walked Spencer a few minutes ago, hoping I might see the recluse to ask him whether the cats were ok when he returned. But I didn't see him. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 16:00:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TM0M6q011889 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:00:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7E2651E6006A; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:57:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C3951E60064 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:57:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A263A5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:50:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14263183 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:50:01 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9TLo1d12051 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:50:01 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.46]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031029214951.WWOZ1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:49:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA035FD.2F05F655@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:49:49 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Look to the Skies, Bonniemae References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031029093022.00b26818@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > Alas, I cannot look to the skies without running the risk of drowning in > the rain. But thanks for thinking of me. I had thought the lights experience would be tonight, but my astronomer friend said at lunch that no, it would've been in the wee hours of this morning. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 16:01:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TM1S6q011899 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:01:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3EF971E6006A; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:58:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B6C71E60064 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:58:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A263CE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:51:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14263400 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:51:07 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9TLp6d12411 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:51:06 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.46]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031029215101.WXIX1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:51:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA03646.5672170D@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:51:02 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I like this References: <200310291506.h9TF6Jvf017861@ra.msstate.edu> <0cdc01c39e31$a9fca9c0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alan Wild wrote: > Such largess... 'smacks of insincerity. Why? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 16:05:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TM5x6q011964 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:05:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9223C1E6006C; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:02:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C9C71E60064 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:02:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A263F6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:55:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14263799 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:55:38 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9TLtbd13188 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:55:37 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.46]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031029215532.XBFC1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:55:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA03755.CC7923FF@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:55:33 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The White Dog! References: <20031029213402.15963.qmail@web20516.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Well, I caa't see him at all, because the message says > Windows Media Player does not support this function. > ??? > > What can I do? > I want to see even jerky dogs, and especially the > White Dog, whom I consider a foster-dog. You need the thing that looks like a little blue whale. I just looked at the page again and saw that there's a link to get a free little blue whale: http://www.msstate.edu/dept/utc/projects/take30.htm It's just to the right of the picture of the students. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 16:16:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TMGT6q012126 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:16:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E1CC61E60071; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:13:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B36851E6006C for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:13:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A264E9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:06:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14265884 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:06:07 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9TM67d15924 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:06:07 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9TM662f017022 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:06:06 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9TM65JC017003 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:06:05 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031029140239.00a5c960@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:03:05 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: mom wants a dog In-Reply-To: <4f.3626e47a.2cd18d41@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A small yappy one that you could drop kick if necessary. Betty At 04:38 PM 10/29/2003 -0500, you wrote: >what would be a good breed to get? > >Evelyn Duncan >brandykitt@aol.com >Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 16:17:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TMHL6q012140 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:17:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 641091E60072; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:14:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E961E60071 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:14:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A264E8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:06:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14266003 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:07:00 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9TM6ud16096 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:07:00 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <46BXHAHW>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:06:51 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7762B@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: troops and suicides: no worry, Rumsfeld is on the case Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:06:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Marty Rosen [mailto:meeberphobia@HOTMAIL.COM] >Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 4:38 PM >>THE WORLD; Joint Chiefs Chairman Worried by Morale Poll >>[HOME EDITION] >>Los Angeles Times >>Los Angeles, Calif. >>Oct 17, 2003 >>Pagination: A.5 >> >>ISSN: 04583035 >> >>Dateline: WASHINGTON >> >>Abstract: >> >> Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Richard B. Myers >expressed concern >>Thursday over a survey suggesting major morale problems among >U.S. troops >>in Iraq, saying he was worried that he and other top officers were >>sometimes >>allowed to talk only to "all the happy folks" when they >visited service >>members. I've heard of similar problems via other channels, but I have a question which isn't very PC: what did our troops do during WW (I,II), Korea, etc. when they weren't getting two-week leaves to come home and see their families, didn't have the marvel of email, etc. with all of the other perqs available in today's society and simply had to tough it out? (I've posed this to friends who have friends & family overseas in response to the hardships being endured now and faced several responses, most of which have been along the lines of doubting my degree of patriotism for thinking of such a question, let alone asking it in the presence of those who have people who are at risk to stop terrorism overseas before they can attack us at home) On a lighter note, seen this morning when picking up my dailies (and to think I thought I'd seen it all): (Big, bold letters): "Saddam and Osama adopt shaven ape baby." (at least, I think that's what it said) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 16:27:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TMR16q012193 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:27:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 92EE51E60072; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:23:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 651AC1E60071 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:23:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A26533@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:16:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14266812 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:16:40 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f100.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9TMGed17857 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:16:40 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:16:34 -0800 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:16:34 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: troops and suicides: no worry, Rumsfeld is on the case Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:16:34 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2003 22:16:34.0453 (UTC) FILETIME=[50206C50:01C39E6A] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Phil Paxton >(I've posed this to friends who have friends & family overseas in response >to the hardships being endured now and faced several responses, most of >which have been along the lines of doubting my degree of patriotism for >thinking of such a question, let alone asking it in the presence of those >who have people who are at risk to stop terrorism overseas before they can >attack us at home) Well, now, let's just get it out on the table. When you asked these questions were you bashing our troops, or not? _________________________________________________________________ Want to check if your PC is virus-infected? Get a FREE computer virus scan online from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 16:27:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TMRb6q012198 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:27:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E7C741E602CE; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:24:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B81C11E600A3 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:24:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A26538@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:17:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14266853 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:17:06 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9TMH6d17976 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:17:06 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <46BXHAKT>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:17:01 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7762C@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: "Living on Earth" (spoken with histrionics...) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:16:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] >Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 4:49 PM >Evelyn Duncan wrote: > >> After she went blind, she would holler "Hello!" when >> she'd come up the stairs. She was also the one who > >Ugly started talking yesterday afternoon -- as in uttering words. I >couldn't understand them, though. I think they were in a foreign >language. Or perhaps she was speaking in tongues. I think her human >companion is very religious. I walked Spencer a few minutes >ago, hoping >I might see the recluse to ask him whether the cats were ok when he >returned. But I didn't see him. (I'm probably going to embarass myself here) I doubt it was speaking in tongues. I don't have verses in front of me, but I believe the Bible (oops, I probably should have qualified it as "the Christian Bible" or some other distinction) states no one will be given the gift of speaking in tongues unless someone else has been granted the gift of translating them as well. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 16:41:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TMfJ6q012304 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:41:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A92871E60071; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:37:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A7661E60063 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:37:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A265B4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:30:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14268140 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:30:58 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9TMUwd20459 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:30:58 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <46BXHA30>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:30:52 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7762D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: troops and suicides: no worry, Rumsfeld is on the case Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:30:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Marty Rosen [mailto:meeberphobia@HOTMAIL.COM] >Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 5:17 PM >>From: Phil Paxton > >>(I've posed this to friends who have friends & family >overseas in response >>to the hardships being endured now and faced several >responses, most of >>which have been along the lines of doubting my degree of >patriotism for >>thinking of such a question, let alone asking it in the >presence of those >>who have people who are at risk to stop terrorism overseas >before they can >>attack us at home) > > >Well, now, let's just get it out on the table. When you asked these >questions were you bashing our troops, or not? I was not. I have a number of friends, relatives of friends, friends of friends (not FOAFs) who are stationed overseas. Some are full-time active duty, most are not (some of my friends have used the word "rentals" which I understand the concept but...). When someone is doing their duty and not going crazy in the clock tower, I cannot fault them (the troops). They are doing their job(s). That's as simple as it gets. Anymore, driving down the road becomes a form of Russian roulette. Playing RR every time you're on the road has to induce a high degree of burnout. The only thing missing now is WMD. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 16:42:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TMgU6q012308 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:42:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C4B7C1E60071; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:39:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96FAE1E60063 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:39:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A265D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:32:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14268227 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:32:08 -0500 Received: from web20501.mail.yahoo.com (web20501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.136]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9TMW8d20660 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:32:08 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:31:51 PST Message-ID: <20031029223151.28368.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:31:51 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: "Living on Earth" (spoken with histrionics...) To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7762C@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > (I'm probably going to embarass myself here) > > I doubt it was speaking in tongues. I don't have > verses in front of me, but > I believe the Bible (oops, I probably should have > qualified it as "the > Christian Bible" or some other distinction) states > no one will be given the > gift of speaking in tongues unless someone else has > been granted the gift of > translating them as well. I strongly suspect that Ugly has a much better handle on linguistic interpretation than humans do. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 16:46:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TMkg6q012332 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:46:42 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 94A061E602CE; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:43:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 610A31E600A3 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:43:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A265E8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:36:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14268520 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:36:20 -0500 Received: from imo-m01.mx.aol.com (imo-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.4]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9TMaKd21332 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:36:20 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1ac.1c2a4e95 (2519) for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:32:25 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1ac.1c2a4e95.2cd199f9@aol.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:32:25 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] mom wants a dog To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/29/2003 4:06:26 PM Central Standard Time, bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU writes: << A small yappy one that you could drop kick if necessary. >> I doubt that Sweetie would like a yappy dog. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 16:48:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TMmc6q012351 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:48:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 781F31E602CE; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:45:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45F6D1E600A3 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:45:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001C5110@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:38:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14268597 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:38:17 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9TMcGd21522 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:38:16 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9TMcFAx012956 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:38:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FA04113.90705@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:37:07 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mom wants a dog References: <1ac.1c2a4e95.2cd199f9@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU One of those electronic dogs you can program. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 16:51:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TMp06q012363 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:51:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CAF991E60072; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:47:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D0121E60071 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:47:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A265F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:40:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14268741 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:40:38 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9TMecd21812 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:40:38 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <46BXHARC>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:40:33 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7762E@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: mom wants a dog Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:40:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Aibo. People started hacking Aibos and Sony resisted, considering making future ones even more difficult to hack, then realizing they'd probably sell even more of them if people could teach their Aibo dogs new tricks. >-----Original Message----- >From: Rita Chapman [mailto:rouvalis@SWBELL.NET] >Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 5:37 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: mom wants a dog > > >One of those electronic dogs you can program. > > > > >-- >Rita Rouvalis Chapman >rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org >http://www.etext.org/~rita > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 16:59:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TMxK6q012426 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:59:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ABEE31E60072; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:55:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CB6F1E60063 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:55:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A26627@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:48:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14269194 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:48:58 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9TMmwd22772 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:48:58 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003102922485101500gks9ve>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:48:52 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031029144116.03ae7318@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:49:03 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: mom wants a dog In-Reply-To: <4f.3626e47a.2cd18d41@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan writes, >what would be a good breed to get? I daresay you shouldn't. This might sound weird, but it's a serious suggestion: two mice. Two because then they won't get lonely; mice because they're easy to play with and pay attention to, and they're easy to ignore when you don't want to. They're not as gratifying as a dog, but it's still comforting to see them living their little lives normally as real life ebbs and flows, and they're fun to hold. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 17:05:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TN5m6q012471 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:05:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A1E9D1E60072; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:02:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 750671E60063 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:02:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A26643@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:55:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14269494 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:55:26 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9TMtQd23353 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:55:26 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.46]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031029225520.DLYH1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:55:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA04553.D5991EFD@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:55:15 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mom wants a dog References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031029140239.00a5c960@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > > A small yappy one that you could drop kick if necessary. Negative. A smallish, but not yap-sized, older, but not ancient, mild-mannered dog. I'd say go to the local shelter and consult with the workers there. If they're any good, then they not only know a good bit about dogs in general and their wards in particular, but they also will care very much about making a good match of dog to human. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 17:06:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TN6u6q012477 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:06:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ABCBB1E60072; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:03:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EDFA1E60063 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:03:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A26645@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:56:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14269514 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:56:34 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9TMuYd23414 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:56:34 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-2.gwi.net [216.195.151.2]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9TMuVAt025707; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:56:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031029174406.00b3edc0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:44:30 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: mom wants a dog In-Reply-To: <4f.3626e47a.2cd18d41@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:38 PM 10/29/2003 -0500, Evelyn Duncan wrote: >what would be a good breed to get? pit bull cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 17:11:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TNBT6q012597 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:11:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6376B1E60072; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:08:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CDDF1E60070 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:08:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2666E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:01:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14269893 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:01:08 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9TN18d24036 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:01:08 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.46]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031029230102.DOMW1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:01:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA046AA.275480DF@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:00:58 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: troops and suicides: no worry, Rumsfeld is on the case References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7762B@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > when they weren't getting two-week leaves to come home and see their > families, didn't have the marvel of email, etc. with all of the other perqs > available in today's society and simply had to tough it out? I've read pros and cons about those two-week leaves -- about whether they are more painful than helpful. Apparently it varies from one person to another. Didn't some refuse their leaves because of worry that they would make returning to Iraq so hard? I've read some speculations that the leaves from Vietnam might have been better r&r for some soldiers -- taking breaks in places like Hong Kong. > which have been along the lines of doubting my degree of patriotism for > thinking of such a question, let alone asking it in the presence of those My, my. How surprising that somebody who thinks is accused of lacking patriotism. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 17:14:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TNEB6q012603 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:14:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EA68F1E60073; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:10:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B849A1E6006D for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:10:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001C5189@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:03:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14270107 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:03:49 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9TN3nd24390 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:03:49 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.46]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031029230343.DPRX1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:03:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA04750.A5F0307E@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:03:44 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: troops and suicides: no worry, Rumsfeld is on the case References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen wrote: > Well, now, let's just get it out on the table. When you asked these > questions were you bashing our troops, or not? I'm trying to remember exactly what it was that Howard Dean said in the recent debate on the subject of supporting our troops. I don't remember what prompted it or his exact words, but his response was passionate and clear and forceful (and inclusive -- something like "every one of us on this stage") and evoked major cheers from the audience. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 17:19:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TNJZ6q012684 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:19:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BC1D41E60072; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:16:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88D551E6006D for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:16:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001C51C1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:09:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14270374 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:09:13 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9TN9Dd24923 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:09:13 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.46]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031029230907.DSEQ1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:09:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA04894.89F65566@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:09:08 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: "Living on Earth" (spoken with histrionics...) References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7762C@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > I doubt it was speaking in tongues. I don't have verses in front of me, but > I believe the Bible (oops, I probably should have qualified it as "the > Christian Bible" or some other distinction) states no one will be given the > gift of speaking in tongues unless someone else has been granted the gift of > translating them as well. But Ugly might be used to speaking in tongues when in the company of her human companion. She might have simply forgotten that it was just me. The incident did coincide with a telemarketing message being left on the answering machine. Maybe she thought the telemarketer could hear her. Both cats are fine. The outside cat is named Cleo. I saw the recluse out picking up pecans a little while ago and went and had a nice conversation with him. He went inside and brought me a bag of apples and a t-shirt -- the t-shirt has a picture of a mean-looking cat on it and says, "Don't Mess With Me." He told me that he had hoped to find a shirt that said something about a neighbor kind enough to feed cats. Anyway, I feel relieved to know that both cats were alive, well, and present upon his return. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 17:21:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TNLc6q012697 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:21:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D8E7A1E600A3; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:18:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7E9E1E60073 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:18:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A26698@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:11:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14270431 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:11:16 -0500 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9TNBGd25070 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:11:16 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.38.3e12d2a1 (3866) for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:10:01 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <38.3e12d2a1.2cd1a2c8@aol.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:10:00 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] mom wants a dog To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/29/2003 4:49:11 PM Central Standard Time, kaminski@ISTORI.COM writes: << This might sound weird, but it's a serious suggestion: two mice. >> Sweetie likes that suggestion: lunch and dinner. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 17:22:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TNMY6q012703 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:22:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A03F71E60072; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:19:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C9B91E602CE for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:19:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A266C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:12:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14270587 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:12:12 -0500 Received: from imo-m01.mx.aol.com (imo-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.4]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9TNCCd25432 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:12:12 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.113.2ab1df23 (3866) for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:10:50 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <113.2ab1df23.2cd1a2f9@aol.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:10:49 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] mom wants a dog To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/29/2003 4:56:46 PM Central Standard Time, cwv@GWI.NET writes: << pit bull >> NO Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 17:24:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TNOa6q012715 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:24:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 595881E600A3; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:21:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C07E1E60072 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:21:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001C51C1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:14:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14270725 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:14:13 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9TNEDd25666 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:14:13 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.46]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031029231407.DUMI1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:14:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA049C0.D21894B1@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:14:08 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: troops and suicides: no worry, Rumsfeld is on the case References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7762D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > >Well, now, let's just get it out on the table. When you asked these > >questions were you bashing our troops, or not? > > I was not. I have a number of friends, relatives of friends, friends of You haven't been back long enough to have gotten into the list swing. I think Marty was being sarcastic in that question -- sort of like the response I just sent expressing surprise that thinking and asking questions leads to accusations of being unpatriotic. The idiotic accusations about troop-bashing, being unpatriotic, etc. etc. have become a joke. If you don't fall upon your knees and say "Heil, Dubya," you are or . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 17:27:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TNRB6q012742 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:27:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3889A1E602CE; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:23:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AD391E60072 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:23:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A266E9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:16:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14270959 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:16:50 -0500 Received: from imo-m01.mx.aol.com (imo-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.4]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9TNGnd26037 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:16:49 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1ed.124295b5 (25711) for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:14:44 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1ed.124295b5.2cd1a3e3@aol.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:14:43 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] mom wants a dog To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I wouldn't mind getting an electronic dog; I miss playing with my Furby; all it wants to do now is sleep. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 17:32:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TNWD6q012838 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:32:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 423C51E602CE; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:28:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 132B31E600A3 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:28:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A266E7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:21:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14271236 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:21:52 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9TNLpd26670 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:21:51 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.46]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031029232146.DXVH1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:21:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA04B8B.E1DC0FB1@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:21:47 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mom wants a dog References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031029144116.03ae7318@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > They're not as gratifying as a dog, but it's still comforting to see them > living their little lives normally as real life ebbs and flows, and they're > fun to hold. Sweetie would love holding them -- in her mouth. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 17:33:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9TNXx6q012863 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:33:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4B4861E600A3; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:30:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17C0D1E602CE for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:30:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A266ED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:23:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14271295 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:23:36 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9TNNad26820 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:23:36 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.46]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031029232330.DYQR1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:23:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA04BF3.E4E34B92@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:23:31 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mom wants a dog References: <38.3e12d2a1.2cd1a2c8@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > << > This might sound weird, but it's a serious suggestion: two mice. > >> > > Sweetie likes that suggestion: lunch and dinner. :-) My thought was lunch and dessert -- or dinner and dessert, depending on the time of day of the arrival of the mice. But Sweetie would perhaps be more dainty in her eating habits and spread them over two meals. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 18:06:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9U06w6q013191 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:06:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 59BF11E60078; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:03:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C0431E60070 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:03:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2679F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:56:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14272962 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:56:36 -0500 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9TNuZd30105 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:56:36 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.6.1b07a729 (4468) for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:55:51 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <6.1b07a729.2cd1ad87@aol.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:55:51 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] mom wants a dog To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/29/2003 5:23:56 PM Central Standard Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << But Sweetie would perhaps be more dainty in her eating habits and spread them over two meals. >> She is a dainty eater. I think she was astonished at Daisy's appetite. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 18:22:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9U0MQ6q013323 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:22:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ED9B11E60078; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:15:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC4DF1E60075 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:15:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A267F3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 19:08:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14273551 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 19:08:16 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9U08Gd31406 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 19:08:16 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.46]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031030000810.USHM1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 19:08:10 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA0566B.83D6CF9D@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:08:11 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: The EO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU We haven't talked about The Evil One in ages now -- since his profile has become rather low. But here's a juicy statement: "If we have to, we just mow the whole place down, see what happens." -- Trent Lott re Iraq from: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5098.htm -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 18:58:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9U0w16q013675 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:58:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 288FF1E6007D; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:54:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE4CD1E60079 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:54:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A268B3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 19:47:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14275547 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 19:47:36 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9U0lZd03505 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 19:47:35 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9U0lYNt017798 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:47:34 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FA05F60.6@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:46:24 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words-l Subject: a wlm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Yesterday, the receptionist-dude handed me a note on a Murray State stickie. Amy must give out good freebies. I am in the midst of parent-teacher conferences, which are exhausting (even though I enjoy talking to my students' parents). I got to take today off from teaching, though, to go to a conference on character ed. It was fun. I sat at a table with a woman who is in AmeriCorp (sp?), and I enjoyed hearing about her experiences with the organization. One more 15-hour day and then I get Friday off to go play with the horses and set up a horse show. Whee. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 19:02:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9U12d6q013719 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 19:02:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7E52C1E60079; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:59:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 482D21E60074 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:59:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A268BC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 19:52:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14275798 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 19:52:10 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9U0qAd04063 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 19:52:10 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003103000520401300ifs2re> (Authid: adamh1); Thu, 30 Oct 2003 00:52:04 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: troops and suicides: no worry, Rumsfeld is on the case Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 19:52:02 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7762B@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > On a lighter note, seen this morning when picking up my dailies (and to > think I thought I'd seen it all): > > (Big, bold letters): "Saddam and Osama adopt shaven ape baby." > (at least, I think that's what it said) I believe it was the Weekly World News that reported a few weeks ago on Saddam and Osama's gay marriage, complete with a picture on the front cover of Osama in a tux and Saddam in a white wedding dress and veil. --Adam adamh1@comcast.net From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 19:30:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9U1Ub6q013966 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 19:30:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 749231E600AC; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 19:27:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A571E60083 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 19:27:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2696E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:20:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14277306 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:20:15 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9U1KEd07577 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:20:14 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.46]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031030011810.CUBE1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:18:10 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA066D2.4E7FD5DF@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 19:18:10 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: The White Dog Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU If you hold down the fast-forward button, stop on 22:34 (out of 29:30) for the pre-commercial teaser re the white dog, then go on to 24:55 for the story. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 19:36:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9U1ac6q014020 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 19:36:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ECD3D1E600AC; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 19:33:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE8391E60083 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 19:33:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001C540C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:26:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14277531 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:26:15 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9U1QFd08009 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:26:15 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.46]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031030012424.CYMS1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:24:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA06848.7867F699@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 19:24:24 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The White Dog References: <3FA066D2.4E7FD5DF@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > If you hold down the fast-forward button, stop on 22:34 (out of 29:30) > for the pre-commercial teaser re the white dog, then go on to 24:55 for > the story. I should have repeated the url: http://www.msstate.edu/dept/utc/projects/take30.htm Click on Show 5 -- October 27. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 19:37:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9U1b36q014036 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 19:37:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 06C721E600AC; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 19:33:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA3911E60083 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 19:33:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A26985@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:26:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14277536 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:26:40 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9U1Qed08039 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:26:40 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HNJQEK02.8YR for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:20:44 -0700 From: "John Williams" To: English Language Discussion Group Message-ID: <1ccb1c1c98ff.1c98ff1ccb1c@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:20:44 -0700 X-Mailer: Netscape Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en Subject: Re: a wlm X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Rita Chapman > Yesterday, the receptionist-dude handed me a note on a > Murray State stickie. Amy must give out good freebies. Well, they do have the budget for it... JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 20:16:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9U2Gi6q014448 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:16:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4250E1E60082; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:13:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CA811E6007F for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:13:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A26A13@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:06:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14279211 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:06:21 -0500 Received: from stork.mail.pas.earthlink.net (stork.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.188]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9U26Ld12205 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:06:21 -0500 Received: from sdn-ap-021txhousp0110.dialsprint.net ([65.177.16.110] helo=earthlink.net) by stork.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AF2Ca-0004yW-00 for words-L@listserv.uga.edu; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:06:20 -0800 Message-ID: <410-22003104302621108@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: dormarbil@earthlink.net X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2003.2.92.0 (Windows) From: "Doris Smith" To: words-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Hello - and computer help needed Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:06:21 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII X-ELNK-Trace: 0f572b91323e03d8e9ef466adc09f07e7e972de0d01da9406975a89bdf9a5a44c94b55328369aec9350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Hello -
 
I have a computer problem that I've so far been unable to solve, and since it is more fun to ask the list...... I'm asking.
 
My desktop pc has a problem with its sound. The sound is distorted and unintelligible and sounds like a lot of static - really, an indescribable sound. I've bought and attached new speakers, Sound is still the same. I inserted a new sound card. Sound is still the same. Before I replaced the hardware items, I checked all software settings through Device Manager and other places I don't remember, and everything shows up being OK. So.......... anybody have any ideas what to do next before giving up completely and living with no sound?
 
 
Doris Smith

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 20:29:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9U2T16q014521 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:29:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 32DFC1E600E0; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:25:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 012BA1E60085 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:25:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A26A57@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:18:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14279818 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:18:38 -0500 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9U2Icd13478 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:18:38 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.16e.25a9fc83 (25711) for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:16:42 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <16e.25a9fc83.2cd1ce8a@aol.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:16:42 EST Subject: cable To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm glad I didn't have Comcast when my cable was cut. Anyone else watch MSNBC's Countdown tonight? Well, this guy's cable went out, and he called Comcast to complain. He received several calls about it that turned the air azure. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 20:47:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9U2lo6q014811 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:47:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3BFC01E600E0; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:44:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0934B1E60082 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:44:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A26AB8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:37:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14280605 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:37:26 -0500 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9U2bQd15669 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:37:26 -0500 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:37:20 PST Message-ID: <20031030023720.43473.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:37:20 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: troops and suicides: no worry, Rumsfeld is on the case To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Rumsfeld and Myers said there might be a > problem in the Army Reserve, > >but they did not specify what it was. > > > > "I do talk to a great many of the troops," > Rumsfeld said. "They seem > >up and recognizing the importance of the task > they're doing and proud of > >what they're doing. On the other hand, I'm sure > that you could ... find > >people who are concerned about something, or > unhappy." It would seem that the only way to get the real skinny on this situation is to dispatch our own Wordsler envoy/investigator. M. Rosen comes to mind as the individual possessing the ambassadorial cum Peter Wimsey-like stature to achieve this end. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 20:49:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9U2n66q014816 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:49:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C3AA91E600E0; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:45:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9575E1E60085 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:45:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A26AAD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:38:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14280616 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:38:43 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9U2cCd15716 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:38:12 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.46]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031030023807.GSXX1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:38:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA07990.5447AEB3@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:38:08 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hello - and computer help needed References: <410-22003104302621108@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Doris Smith wrote: > I have a computer problem that I've so far been unable to solve, and > since it is more fun to ask the list...... I'm asking. I have no idea what the answer to your question is (I keep the speakers on my computer turned off most of the time), but surely there are Wordslers who will have answers. The point of this reply is simply to say that it's good to have you among us. I was happy when I saw your name in the mail queue. Why do we USAers say queue for mail? Why don't we say line? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 20:49:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9U2nw6q014822 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:49:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D274D1E60085; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:46:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A32C81E60082 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:46:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A26ABD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:39:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14280658 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:39:35 -0500 Received: from web20515.mail.yahoo.com (web20515.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.232.184]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9U2dZd15798 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:39:35 -0500 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20515.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:39:31 PST Message-ID: <20031030023931.29909.qmail@web20515.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:39:31 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: mom wants a dog To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <4f.3626e47a.2cd18d41@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > what would be a good breed to get? > > Evelyn Duncan > brandykitt@aol.com > Mongo only pawn in game of life. Stuffed. Really, Evelyn. This is too much. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 20:51:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9U2pt6q014851 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:51:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4B04D1E602D1; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:48:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C833B1E600E0 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:48:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A26AC7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:41:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14280758 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:41:31 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9U2fQd16002 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:41:26 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.46]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031030024121.GUDI1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:41:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA07A52.636D350C@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:41:22 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mom wants a dog References: <20031030023931.29909.qmail@web20515.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > Stuffed. Really, Evelyn. This is too much. I meant to ask earlier: Has she said why she wants a dog? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 20:53:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9U2rw6q014901 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:53:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0B3861E60085; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:50:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1D0D1E60082 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:50:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A26ABB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:43:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14280882 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:43:35 -0500 Received: from web20513.mail.yahoo.com (web20513.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9U2hZd16198 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:43:35 -0500 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20513.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:43:34 PST Message-ID: <20031030024334.82939.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:43:34 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: The White Dog! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FA03755.CC7923FF@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > You need the thing that looks like a little blue > whale. I just looked > at the page again and saw that there's a link to get > a free little blue > whale: > > http://www.msstate.edu/dept/utc/projects/take30.htm > > It's just to the right of the picture of the > students. Thanks! I'm going to do it after I get caught up :-{ For some reason, some of my mail got held up along the way. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 20:53:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9U2rx6q014904 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:53:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DDA4A1E60085; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:50:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF8CE1E60082 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:50:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001C5568@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:43:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14280886 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:43:36 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9U2had16206 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:43:36 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2003103002432901200ggi65e>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:43:30 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031029165927.033bb3d0@192.168.1.99> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:41:42 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Foreign Policy Priorities Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Framing foreign policy discussions: what are the dimensions and where do you stand? Here's a good, politically neutral 12-question survey website from e-thePeople: . It has a cool way to play with your results at the end as a way to think about the issues more. Here are my initial results: Diplomacy|Military+ +Sovereignity|Human Rights Protections|Global Markets++ NationalInterest=Cooperation Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 20:54:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9U2sf6q014912 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:54:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ADA381E600E0; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:51:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 801FE1E60082 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:51:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A26ACD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:44:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14280926 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:44:18 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9U2iCd16298 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:44:12 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2003103002440601400j2m2qe> (Authid: adamh1); Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:44:07 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Hello - and computer help needed Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:44:05 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <410-22003104302621108@earthlink.net> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU [snips Doris' IMFTATL computer questions] What operating system? Does it have all current patches? What type of processor, amount of memory, etc? If Windows 98 or higher, have you tried removing the sound card from Device Manager, rebooting it, and letting it find the card on its own? --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 20:55:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9U2tb6q014916 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:55:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E0E351E60085; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:52:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3B191E60082 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:52:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A26ADB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:45:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14280944 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:45:14 -0500 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9U2j9d16379 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:45:09 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.c.1b065475 (2612) for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:43:42 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:43:42 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] mom wants a dog To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/29/2003 8:39:40 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << Stuffed. Really, Evelyn. This is too much. >> You want to tell Mom? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 20:58:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9U2w16q014968 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:58:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AACC11E602D1; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:54:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 715581E600E0 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:54:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A26AD4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:47:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14281003 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:47:38 -0500 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9U2lbd16623 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:47:37 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.b8.4a2bfc1e (2612) for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:46:00 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:45:59 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] mom wants a dog To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/29/2003 8:41:51 PM Central Standard Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << I meant to ask earlier: Has she said why she wants a dog? >> Companionship, mainly. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 21:04:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9U34F6q015085 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:04:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5FF581E602D4; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:59:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31DAC1E602D3 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:59:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001C5589@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:52:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14281237 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:52:54 -0500 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9U2qrd17279 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:52:53 -0500 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:52:53 PST Message-ID: <20031030025253.85448.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:52:53 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: mom wants a dog To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FA04BF3.E4E34B92@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > :-) My thought was lunch and dessert -- or dinner > and dessert, > depending on the time of day of the arrival of the > mice. But Sweetie > would perhaps be more dainty in her eating habits > and spread them over > two meals. Give them 10 days, and you'll never have to invest in cat food again. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 21:04:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9U34P6q015111 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:04:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A676A1E600E0; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:01:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 786781E600C9 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:01:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A26ADE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:54:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14281260 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:54:02 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9U2s2d17366 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:54:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.46]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031030025356.XCSJ1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:53:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA07D45.B0A59B2C@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:53:57 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Foreign Policy Priorities References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031029165927.033bb3d0@192.168.1.99> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > > Framing foreign policy discussions: what are the dimensions and where do > you stand? Here's a good, politically neutral 12-question survey website > from e-thePeople: . > > It has a cool way to play with your results at the end as a way to think > about the issues more. > > Here are my initial results: > > Diplomacy|Military+ > +Sovereignity|Human Rights > Protections|Global Markets++ > NationalInterest=Cooperation My result: Your Foreign Policy Priorities: Primary: Diplomacy Secondary: Sovereignty, Cooperation I didn't find the cool way to play with the results. I saw this: ********** Read below for explanations of your priorities. Use the sliding scales below to explore other possibilities. ********** But there was only blank space below the above statement. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 21:06:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9U36f6q015160 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:06:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8406E1E602D1; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:03:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5614F1E600E0 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:03:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A26AFC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:56:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14281311 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:56:18 -0500 Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com (web20502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9U2uId17497 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:56:18 -0500 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:56:16 PST Message-ID: <20031030025616.62999.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:56:16 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: The White Dog To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FA066D2.4E7FD5DF@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > If you hold down the fast-forward button, stop on > 22:34 (out of 29:30) > for the pre-commercial teaser re the white dog, then > go on to 24:55 for > the story. > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) By George, I got it! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 21:07:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9U37L6q015166 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:07:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BF9771E600C9; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:03:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 920AB1E600BE for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:03:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A26AF2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:56:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14281343 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:56:58 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9U2uwd17547 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:56:58 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.46]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031030025652.XDWF1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:56:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA07DF6.8B334F3A@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:56:54 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The White Dog! References: <20031030024334.82939.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Thanks! I'm going to do it after I get caught up :-{ > For some reason, some of my mail got held up along the way. It's definitely worth it for a glimpse of The White Dog! But I must say that he looks so different in that setting than he did running about the campus. I want to go visit him at the shelter. I really wish I didn't have to go to Jackson tomorrow, but I am committed. There are so many things I want to do here. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 21:09:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9U39E6q015207 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:09:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 62A0A1E602D1; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:05:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3499E1E600BE for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:05:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001C55AA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:58:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14281050 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:58:51 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9U2mod16751 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:48:51 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9U2mH7l018793 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:48:18 -0500 Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:48:48 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hello - and computer help needed In-Reply-To: <410-22003104302621108@earthlink.net> Message-ID: References: <410-22003104302621108@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 29 Oct 2003, Doris Smith wrote: >My desktop pc has a problem with its sound. The sound is distorted and >unintelligible and sounds like a lot of static - really, an indescribable >sound. I've bought and attached new speakers, Sound is still the same. I Doris, it is vital that you interpret the message. They are trying desperately to reach you. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 21:10:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9U3Ae6q015223 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:10:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EC4921E602D1; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:07:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD5C81E600E0 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:07:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A26B09@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:00:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14281612 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:00:17 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9U30Cd18140 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:00:12 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.46]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031030030007.XFDO1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:00:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA07EB8.81AA9237@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:00:08 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mom wants a dog References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > << > I meant to ask earlier: Has she said why she wants a dog? > >> > > Companionship, mainly. Has she said anything about why she wants another dog after having recently kicked out a dog? That's what I was wondering about. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 21:13:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9U3DP6q015303 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:13:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F3A701E600C9; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:10:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A681E600BE for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:10:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001C55C4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:03:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14281809 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:02:52 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9U32pd18543 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:02:51 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.46]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031030030245.XGCX1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:02:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA07F57.B698F0F4@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:02:47 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The White Dog References: <20031030025616.62999.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > If you hold down the fast-forward button, stop on > > 22:34 (out of 29:30) > > for the pre-commercial teaser re the white dog, then > > go on to 24:55 for > > the story. > > -- > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > By George, I got it! Did you really?? As in you downloaded the blue whale and looked at the jerky stream and saw The White Dog??? I love the thought that a Wordsler got to see The White Dog, even though that brief, jerky video doesn't do justice to him. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 21:16:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9U3Gl6q015326 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:16:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7FBFE1E600C9; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:13:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E30A1E600BE for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:13:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A26B34@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:06:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14281947 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:06:24 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9U36Od18825 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:06:24 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-2.gwi.net [216.195.151.2]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9U36LAt074399; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:06:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031029220542.00b4fe58@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:06:18 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: mom wants a dog In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:45 PM 10/29/2003 -0500, Evelyn Duncan wrote: >In a message dated 10/29/2003 8:41:51 PM Central Standard Time, >natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: ><< >I meant to ask earlier: Has she said why she wants a dog? > >> > >Companionship, mainly. In that case, I stay with my recommendation. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 21:18:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9U3IG6q015423 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:18:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A5AB51E600BA; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:14:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D0C1E60089 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:14:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A26B36@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:07:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14281978 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:07:53 -0500 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9U37rd18952 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:07:53 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.15f.2791335f (2612) for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:07:20 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <15f.2791335f.2cd1da68@aol.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:07:20 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] mom wants a dog To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/29/2003 9:00:46 PM Central Standard Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << Has she said anything about why she wants another dog after having recently kicked out a dog? That's what I was wondering about. >> If Daisy had been smaller and not as strong, Mom would have kept her. I wish we lived in a house with a yard and not a small apartment. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 21:24:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9U3OI6q015525 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:24:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E2AD91E600C9; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:20:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4CC91E600BA for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:20:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A26B4D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:13:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14282234 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:13:54 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9U3Dsd19547 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:13:54 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.46]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031030031345.HGUS1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:13:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA081EA.9C82FE8E@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:13:46 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: DSAI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm going to be gone for only a couple of days -- from right after class tomorrow morning until late Saturday. But it nevertheless seems to set nomail. So DSAI until Saturday night. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 21:27:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9U3Rh6q015550 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:27:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 27A341E600BA; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:24:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA1F31E6008A for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:24:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A26B49@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:17:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14282322 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:17:19 -0500 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9U3HJd19890 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:17:19 -0500 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 19:17:18 PST Message-ID: <20031030031718.91333.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 19:17:18 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Foreign Policy Priorities To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031029165927.033bb3d0@192.168.1.99> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Here are my initial results: > > Diplomacy|Military+ > +Sovereignity|Human Rights > Protections|Global Markets++ > NationalInterest=Cooperation Primary: Diplomacy Secondary: Protections/National Security __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 21:30:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9U3UW6q015590 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:30:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 095141E6008A; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:27:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFA051E60089 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:27:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001C569A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:20:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14282400 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:20:08 -0500 Received: from web20513.mail.yahoo.com (web20513.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9U3K8d20129 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:20:08 -0500 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20513.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 19:20:02 PST Message-ID: <20031030032002.96390.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 19:20:02 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Hello - and computer help needed To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Doris, it is vital that you interpret the message. > They are trying > desperately to reach you. > > Bethany Ms. Kay and T.S. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 21:47:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9U3lU6q015912 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:47:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E299A1E60090; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:44:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE3411E6008E for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:44:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A26B71@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:37:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14282842 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:37:06 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9U3b6d21629 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:37:06 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9U3b3W1029127 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 19:37:03 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9U3b0Wq029059 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 19:37:01 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031029193657.00a6ec80@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 19:38:47 -0800 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Reading the archives Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I had to go back and read some to find out about Anne. Hope you are feeling better each day, Anne. Two questions. Has Borkin interviewed Nipper yet? Marty, do you own property in Michigan now? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 21:56:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9U3u26q015980 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:56:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DC0D21E60089; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:52:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA3891E60087 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:52:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A26BA6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:45:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14283219 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:45:38 -0500 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9U3jcd22370 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:45:38 -0500 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 19:45:37 PST Message-ID: <20031030034537.37299.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 19:45:37 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: The White Dog To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FA06848.7867F699@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > > If you hold down the fast-forward button, stop on > 22:34 (out of 29:30) > > for the pre-commercial teaser re the white dog, > then go on to 24:55 for > > the story. > http://www.msstate.edu/dept/utc/projects/take30.htm Yes, yes. You can look into his face and tell he is a good dog. And a lovely shade of white it is, too :-} __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 22:27:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9U4RY6q016319 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:27:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CE9CB1E6008D; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:22:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DCF11E60090 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:22:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A26DC7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 23:15:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14287764 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 23:15:31 -0500 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9U4FVd26505 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 23:15:31 -0500 Received: from [68.17.132.247] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:15:29 PST Message-ID: <20031030041529.4723.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:15:29 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: cable To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <16e.25a9fc83.2cd1ce8a@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > I'm glad I didn't have Comcast when my cable was > cut. > Anyone else watch MSNBC's Countdown tonight? > Well, this guy's cable went out, and he called > Comcast > to complain. He received several calls about it > that > turned the air azure. I just received this - in fact, am still receiving mail from early afternoon!? Anyway, would you care to venture an interpretation of azure air? Did he get the blues? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 29 23:39:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9U5dS6q017063 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 23:39:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BDE041E600A5; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 23:36:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 886961E60098 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 23:36:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A26FC0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 0:29:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14292149 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 00:28:37 -0500 Received: from heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net (heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.189]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9U5DTd32085 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 00:13:29 -0500 Received: from sdn-ap-021txhousp0119.dialsprint.net ([65.177.16.119] helo=earthlink.net) by heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AF57g-00049n-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:13:29 -0800 Message-ID: <410-220031043051329734@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: dormarbil@earthlink.net X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2003.2.92.0 (Windows) From: "Doris Smith" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Re: Hello - and computer help needed Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 23:13:29 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-ELNK-Trace: 0f572b91323e03d8e9ef466adc09f07e7e972de0d01da940576126f1f0dc90e212377d8bbd20bfed350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > What operating system? Does it have all current patches? What type of > processor, amount of memory, etc? Operating system: Windows XP Home Edition all current patches installed Processor: Intel Pentium III Memory: 256 MB RAM Etc: 597 MHz > > If Windows 98 or higher, have you tried removing the sound card from Device > Manager, rebooting it, and letting it find the card on its own? > > --Adam No, I haven't tried removing the card from Device Manager. I'll try that right now. Thank you, LH From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 00:09:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9U69N6q017432 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 00:09:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4DC311E600C9; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 00:05:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E7B41E6009D for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 00:05:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001C5B8B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 0:58:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14293829 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 00:58:58 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9U5wwd03661 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 00:58:58 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001C5B6F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 0:58:58 -0500 Message-Id: <200310300558.h9U5wwd03661@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 00:58:58 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: troops and suicides: no worry, Rumsfeld is on the case To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:37:20 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >> > Rumsfeld and Myers said there might be a >> problem in the Army Reserve, >> >but they did not specify what it was. >> > >> > "I do talk to a great many of the troops," >> Rumsfeld said. "They seem >> >up and recognizing the importance of the task >> they're doing and proud of >> >what they're doing. On the other hand, I'm sure >> that you could ... find >> >people who are concerned about something, or >> unhappy." > > >It would seem that the only way to get the real skinny >on this situation is to >dispatch our own Wordsler envoy/investigator. > >M. Rosen comes to mind as the individual possessing >the ambassadorial cum Peter Wimsey-like stature to >achieve this end. Marty, are you really Wimsey like? Oh, swoon! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 01:14:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9U7ED6q018093 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 01:14:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E23B51E600D8; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 01:09:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC9941E600CA for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 01:09:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A27248@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 2:02:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14297501 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:02:57 -0500 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9U72ud11386 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:02:56 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_dev1.2.) id c.b2.24367ca7 (3948) for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:02:46 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:02:45 EST Subject: Re: Hello - and computer help needed To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> Doris Smith wrote: > >> I have a computer problem that I've so far been unable to solve, and >> since it is more fun to ask the list...... I'm asking. > Hi Doris. Although my problem is not with speakers; I've had a money problem for several months. They've kept charging me even though I haven't had an account anymore. Tried e-mail, phone, to no avail :-( Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 01:15:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9U7F76q018132 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 01:15:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 853701E600C9; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 01:11:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57B751E600A7 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 01:11:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001C5CB0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 2:04:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14297736 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:04:42 -0500 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9U74fd11737 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:04:41 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_dev1.2.) id c.ac.49f32b6d (3948) for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:04:32 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:04:32 EST Subject: Re: troops and suicides: no worry, Rumsfeld is on the case To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/29/2003 8:37:46 PM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: >It would seem that the only way to get the real skinny >on this situation is to >dispatch our own Wordsler envoy/investigator. > Where I come from they'd say to keep our noses out of everybody else's business! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 01:17:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9U7Hv6q018164 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 01:17:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BB0DE1E600D7; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 01:14:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C2821E60095 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 01:14:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2726D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 2:07:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14297878 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:07:32 -0500 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9U77Wd12074 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:07:32 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.12.37e79360 (3948) for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:07:15 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <12.37e79360.2cd212a2@aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:07:14 EST Subject: Re: mom wants a dog To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/29/2003 4:55:31 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >I'd say go to the local shelter and consult with the >workers there. If they're any good, then they not only know a good bit >about dogs in general and their wards in particular, but they also will >care very much about making a good match of dog to human. Definitely. But why now? Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 01:32:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9U7Ww6q018344 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 01:32:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0D5301E600AD; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 01:29:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2DCD1E600A9 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 01:29:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A27296@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 2:22:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14298257 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:22:33 -0500 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9U7MXd13157 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:22:33 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.b9.3849e090 (3948) for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:22:19 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:22:19 EST Subject: Re: Katzen Report To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/29/2003 2:46:52 PM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: >> For one; don't give a shit what other people think >> or say about you? >> Theo > >That's certainly a starting point. The difference is, >when you get older, you can get away with it. > Don't worry; you'll get there before you know it! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 02:43:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9U8hM6q019158 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:43:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D6F0D1E600DC; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:39:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5EFF1E6009B for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:39:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A27317@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 3:32:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14299644 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 03:32:56 -0500 Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com (imo-r06.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.102]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9U8Wud18135 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 03:32:56 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.191.212b4f9a (4340) for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 03:32:49 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <191.212b4f9a.2cd226b0@aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 03:32:48 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] cable To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/29/2003 10:15:57 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << I just received this - in fact, am still receiving mail from early afternoon!? Anyway, would you care to venture an interpretation of azure air? Did he get the blues? >> The Comcast rep used a particular 12-letter word over and over again in her calls to him. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 02:50:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9U8oA6q019246 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:50:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0FD4E1E600E3; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:46:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D63F21E600E2 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:46:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2730E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 3:39:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14299700 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 03:39:44 -0500 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9U8did18519 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 03:39:44 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.108.27cf3ee7 (4340) for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 03:39:31 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <108.27cf3ee7.2cd22843@aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 03:39:31 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Hello - and computer help needed To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/30/2003 1:03:25 AM Central Standard Time, Dutchessg1@AOL.COM writes: << Hi Doris. Although my problem is not with speakers; I've had a money problem for several months. They've kept charging me even though I haven't had an account anymore. Tried e-mail, phone, to no avail :-( Theo >> Does one of your TV stations have an ombudsman? I'd go to that person. Channel 2 here has such a person, and the channel gets results. It's as if the companies won't do anything until it's shown on TV how bad they are. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 03:06:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9U96N6q019417 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 03:06:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 89B711E600E3; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 03:02:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 571331E600E0 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 03:02:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A27338@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 3:55:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14299998 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 03:55:58 -0500 Received: from mail46.fg.online.no (mail46-s.fg.online.no [148.122.161.46]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9U8tvd20012 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 03:55:57 -0500 Received: from espeno-latt.nb.no (ti211310a080-8005.bb.online.no [80.212.95.69]) by mail46.fg.online.no (8.9.3p2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06286 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 09:55:53 +0100 (MET) X-no-archive: yes X-homepage: www.nb.no Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031030095706.024c27f0@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 09:57:50 +0100 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "Espen S. Ore" Subject: Re: mom wants a dog In-Reply-To: <4f.3626e47a.2cd18d41@aol.com> References: <4f.3626e47a.2cd18d41@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 22:38 29.10.2003, Evelyn Duncan skrev: >what would be a good breed to get? A stuffed toy dog, I guess. Maybe she really whould live somewhere where she can be taken care of? Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 06:37:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9UCbx6q021457 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 06:37:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C41F91E600E9; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 06:34:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92CA51E600B6 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 06:34:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A275B2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 7:27:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14216310 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 07:27:31 -0500 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9UCRVd23062 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 07:27:31 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.7c.3e17233f (4312) for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 07:27:20 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <7c.3e17233f.2cd25da8@aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 07:27:20 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] mom wants a dog To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/30/2003 2:56:05 AM Central Standard Time, espen.ore@NB.NO writes: << Maybe she really whould live somewhere where she can be taken care of? >> No, she wants to live in her own apartment. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 07:20:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9UDKN6q021828 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 07:20:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 149411E600F3; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 07:16:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6D3A1E600B3 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 07:16:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A276A9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 8:09:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14218466 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 08:09:56 -0500 Received: from fe1.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9UD9sd27701 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 08:09:56 -0500 Received: from [136.167.88.199] (HELO bc.edu) by fe1.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.5) with ESMTP id 35906688 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 08:09:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA10D9A.6040709@bc.edu> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 08:09:46 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mom wants a dog References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn, Just stall until she changes her mind again. Don't put yourself through this again. Rita L. Evelyn Duncan wrote: >In a message dated 10/29/2003 8:39:40 PM Central Standard Time, >lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: ><< >Stuffed. Really, Evelyn. This is too much. > > > >You want to tell Mom? > >Evelyn Duncan >brandykitt@aol.com >Mongo only pawn in game of life. > > -- Rita Leonard Information Technology Systems Services O'Neill Library 544 Phone: 617-552-3403 Email: rita.leonard@bc.edu "Whether you believe you can do a thing or not, you are right." Henry Ford From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 07:27:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9UDRK6q021878 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 07:27:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DCF781E600E9; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 07:23:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFE241E600B3 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 07:23:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A276B1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 8:16:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14218840 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 08:16:53 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law9-f71.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9UDGqd28722 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 08:16:52 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 05:16:47 -0800 Received: from 24.173.85.38 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:16:46 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.173.85.38] X-Originating-Email: [toalanne@hotmail.com] From: "Anne Toal" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Hello - and computer help needed Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 07:16:46 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Oct 2003 13:16:47.0137 (UTC) FILETIME=[1231F110:01C39EE8] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I should start by making the following disclaimer: my "fixes" have been known to require a complete operating system reinstall to correct. The first thing I would do is check the driver version for your sound card and make sure you have the latest. Try to think about what happened just before the sound went all tinny and consider un-doing that action. For instance if you installed a piece of software just before your sound became bad, then uninstall the software and see if the problem fixes itself. And on the outside chance that something like a virus is interfering with your sound (though I've never heard of a virus messing up a sound card) make sure your antivirus software is up to date. Finally, visit Windowsupdate and make sure all your patches are up to date. Sometimes Windowsupdae catches a hardware driver that needs updating, and it might have a side effect of fixing your sound problem. -aht _________________________________________________________________ Want to check if your PC is virus-infected? Get a FREE computer virus scan online from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 08:06:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9UE626q022264 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 08:06:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7BFC81E600C3; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 08:02:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E6B61E600B5 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 08:02:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A277FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 8:55:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14221904 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 08:55:23 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9UDtMd02178 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 08:55:23 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-26.gwi.net [216.195.153.26]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9UDtLAr047419 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 08:55:21 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031030083228.00b26df0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 08:33:17 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: mom wants a dog In-Reply-To: <7c.3e17233f.2cd25da8@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Maybe she really whould live somewhere where >she can be taken care of? > >> > >No, she wants to live in her own apartment. >Evelyn Duncan She wants. She wants. She wants. Don't you ever get tired of that? Just say "No!" bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 08:34:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9UEYs6q022605 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 08:34:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 173581E60103; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 08:31:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC6ED1E600FF for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 08:31:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A278D7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 9:24:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14224012 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 09:24:26 -0500 Received: from web20513.mail.yahoo.com (web20513.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9UEOQd06839 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 09:24:26 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20513.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 06:24:24 PST Message-ID: <20031030142424.93974.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 06:24:24 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: I like this To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <0cdc01c39e31$a9fca9c0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Alan Wild wrote: > Such largess... 'smacks of insincerity. The disposition of $2,000 is not a matter that should be left to chance. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 09:00:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9UF0A6q022866 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 09:00:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 504EF1E600C8; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 08:56:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B54A1E60087 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 08:56:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A279A0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 9:49:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14225792 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 09:49:42 -0500 Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com (web20502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9UEngd10257 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 09:49:42 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 06:49:41 PST Message-ID: <20031030144941.80706.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 06:49:41 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: troops and suicides: no worry, Rumsfeld is on the case To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Where I come from they'd say to keep our noses out > of everybody else's > business! Fie, Theo! As card-toting Wordslers, we have made the WORLD our business. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 09:25:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9UFPu6q023148 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 09:25:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CC6AB1E60087; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 09:22:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E2451E600C4 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 09:22:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A27A93@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:15:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14228046 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:15:28 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9UFFRd15256 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:15:27 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <46BXHGXB>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:15:22 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77630@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: mom wants a dog Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:15:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Evelyn Duncan [mailto:BrandyKitt@AOL.COM] >Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 6:15 PM >I wouldn't mind getting an electronic dog; I miss playing with >my Furby; >all it wants to do now is sleep. Because Furby runs on batteries, I'm surprised no one has found a way to turn Furby into a BOB. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 09:36:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9UFaQ6q023273 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 09:36:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 85AF31E600FC; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 09:32:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F8D1E600FF for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 09:32:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001C6527@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:25:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14229032 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:25:56 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law9-f6.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.6]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9UFPrd17351 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:25:53 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 07:25:48 -0800 Received: from 24.173.85.38 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:25:47 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.173.85.38] X-Originating-Email: [toalanne@hotmail.com] From: "Anne Toal" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: mom wants a dog Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 09:25:47 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Oct 2003 15:25:48.0227 (UTC) FILETIME=[183E8930:01C39EFA] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Because Furby runs on batteries, I'm surprised no one has found a way to >turn Furby into a BOB. A Breakfast On a Bun? _________________________________________________________________ See when your friends are online with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 09:39:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9UFdw6q023311 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 09:39:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D2C231E600FC; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 09:36:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F1BA1E600BB for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 09:36:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001C654E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:29:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14229330 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:29:30 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9UFTSd18069 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:29:28 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <46BXHG5S>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:29:23 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77631@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: YaY Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:29:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Lynne Weber [mailto:lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] >Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 8:45 AM >--- Natalie Maynor wrote: >> I'm almost sure that Debt Management Foundation was >> the caller I >> reported to the no-call-list authorities. But I'm >> confused about >> something. I had thought it was a national no-call >> list that I was on, >> not a Mississippi one. Is the national one divided >> up into states? > >Alabama has had a state no-call list for several >years, but it became painfully apparent from the >outset that it was a futile exercise. I don't think >I've ever heard of any sort of fine schedule, but I'll >look. Seems academic, though. Kentucky's program is considered a basis for many other states. Here in Indiana, it's about $11k per "mistake". And they *do* collect - publishing a list on the news services periodically so the newspapers can print a story and let people know the system is working [at least some of the time]. They keep the system afloat by charging anyone who wants a copy of the list every [calendar|calender] quarter; i.e., it sponsors the system you can call in to have your number added to the system. If anyone is going to place a call within the confines of Indiana, they will have to purchase a copy of the current list. The drawback is the quarterly update. If I enter my number today, I may not get a respite until the end of December. The other sad issue about this is it *is* not difficult to hack the callerID system - and telemarketing folks will do so. It can be tracked down by the law, so not all is lost. (if they are notified so they can track it down) Even if you are caught between registration quarters, you can tell them to remove your number from their records - but you'd probably have to keep a log such that if they repeated that mistake, you'd have to supply the times of when they did call as at least a minor set of proof. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 09:50:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9UFo86q023373 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 09:50:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 681731E600FF; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 09:46:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3531B1E600FC for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 09:46:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A27B9A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:39:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14230322 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:39:39 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9UFddd20400 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:39:39 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <46BXHG85>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:39:34 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77633@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: mom wants a dog Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:39:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Anne Toal [mailto:toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM] >Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 10:26 AM >>Because Furby runs on batteries, I'm surprised no one has >found a way to >>turn Furby into a BOB. > >A Breakfast On a Bun? Battery-Operated Boyfriend From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 09:54:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9UFsY6q023415 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 09:54:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D69571E600FF; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 09:51:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2B111E600FC for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 09:51:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A27BB6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:44:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14230795 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:44:06 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f113.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.113]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9UFi5d21354 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:44:06 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 07:44:00 -0800 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:43:59 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Reading the archives Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:43:59 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Oct 2003 15:44:00.0195 (UTC) FILETIME=[A31BA130:01C39EFC] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Betty >>Two questions. Has Borkin interviewed Nipper yet? No >Marty, do you own property in Michigan now? Not Michigan. Rather, Meldrum Bay, on the extreme western tip of Manitoulin Island in Ontario. We're scheduled to close on Nov. 10, but as far as I know, there should be no obstacles. I'll send photos and confirmation once we close. _________________________________________________________________ Add MSN 8 Internet Software to your current Internet access and enjoy patented spam control and more. Get two months FREE! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/byoa From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 09:56:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9UFuG6q023422 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 09:56:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B51F21E60103; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 09:52:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BB111E600FF for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 09:52:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A27BCA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:45:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14230936 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:45:47 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f8.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9UFjld21675 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:45:47 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 07:45:42 -0800 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:45:41 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: troops and suicides: no worry, Rumsfeld is on the case Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:45:41 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Oct 2003 15:45:42.0138 (UTC) FILETIME=[DFDEE5A0:01C39EFC] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Carolyn Ostrander > Marty, are you really Wimsey like? Oh, swoon! >clo ROFL. Probably much closer to Nero Wolfe. _________________________________________________________________ Want to check if your PC is virus-infected? Get a FREE computer virus scan online from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 10:07:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9UG7u6q023519 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:07:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0E46A1E60103; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:04:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3EFD1E600BC for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:04:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A27C6B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:57:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14232326 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:57:27 -0500 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9UFvRd24250 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:57:27 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 07:57:23 PST Message-ID: <20031030155723.18073.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 07:57:23 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: cable To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <191.212b4f9a.2cd226b0@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > The Comcast rep used a particular 12-letter word > over > and over again in her calls to him. > > Evelyn Duncan Oh! Forgive my ignorance. I suppose it would be too much to hope that he recorded any of the calls. Perhaps he should order the Chris Rock Remedial Language course on tape. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 10:10:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9UGAh6q023546 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:10:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 42A211E600FF; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:07:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10D1B1E60109 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:07:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001C66A6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 11:00:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14232688 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 11:00:14 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law9-f47.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.47]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9UG0Ed24911 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 11:00:14 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 08:00:08 -0800 Received: from 24.173.85.38 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:00:08 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.173.85.38] X-Originating-Email: [toalanne@hotmail.com] From: "Anne Toal" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Reading the archives Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:00:08 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Oct 2003 16:00:08.0549 (UTC) FILETIME=[E44AB950:01C39EFE] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Canadians let furriners own property in country? So does Mexico, but periodically they nationalize it in the name of the People. -a >From: Marty Rosen >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Reading the archives >Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:43:59 -0500 > >>From: Betty >>>Two questions. Has Borkin interviewed Nipper yet? > >No > >>Marty, do you own property in Michigan now? > >Not Michigan. Rather, Meldrum Bay, on the extreme western tip of >Manitoulin >Island in Ontario. We're scheduled to close on Nov. 10, but as far as I >know, there should be no obstacles. I'll send photos and confirmation once >we close. > >_________________________________________________________________ >Add MSN 8 Internet Software to your current Internet access and enjoy >patented spam control and more. Get two months FREE! >http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/byoa _________________________________________________________________ Surf and talk on the phone at the same time with broadband Internet access. Get high-speed for as low as $29.95/month (depending on the local service providers in your area). https://broadband.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 10:32:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9UGWH6q023678 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:32:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6643C1E600CB; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:28:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35BD81E6000F for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:28:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A27D9D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 11:21:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14235016 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 11:21:48 -0500 Received: from relay.clickability.com (relay.clickability.com [208.184.224.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9UGLmd29645 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 11:21:48 -0500 Received: (qmail 14161 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2003 16:21:42 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO relay.clickability.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 30 Oct 2003 16:21:42 -0000 Message-ID: <4494079.1067530902541.JavaMail.tomcat@localhost> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 08:21:42 -0800 (PST) From: toalanne@hotmail.com To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: WSJ.com - Against the Grain: A Rice Scam Tramples On Japanese Tradition Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: sendhtml Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU *Please note, the sender's email address has not been verified. 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Click Go or press Enter or Return on your keyboard. ******************** From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 11:17:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9UHHK6q024160 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 11:17:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C54631E60116; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 11:13:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97A551E60115 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 11:13:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A27FCA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:06:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14240290 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:06:51 -0500 Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9UH6od06728 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:06:50 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HNK00GK3Y6DG5@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:06:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.79] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:02:32 -0500 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:02:32 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Retirement To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <2b5efe2b0ae4.2b0ae42b5efe@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > sound. I may check it Wednesday for The White Dog anyway. He's handsome. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 11:21:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9UHLR6q024197 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 11:21:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3CE151E60116; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 11:17:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DCCA1E60115 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 11:17:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A28002@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:10:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14240708 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:10:58 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9UHAvd07751 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:10:57 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HNKY4202.Q28 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:04:50 -0700 From: "John Williams" To: English Language Discussion Group Message-ID: <1e6a281e7e8f.1e7e8f1e6a28@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:04:50 -0700 X-Mailer: Netscape Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en Subject: Re: troops and suicides: no worry, Rumsfeld is on the case X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Lynne Weber > > It would seem that the only way to get the real skinny > on this situation is to > dispatch our own Wordsler envoy/investigator. Why not ask some of the human shields that are there to protect the Iraqi people? (Although they don't seem to be doing such a good job as far as the Red Cross and UN are concerned.) JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 11:42:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9UHg46q024322 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 11:42:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 795D01E60115; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 11:38:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 458EE1E60102 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 11:38:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001C6A6F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:31:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14242375 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:31:34 -0500 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9UHVXd11700 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:31:33 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 09:31:33 PST Message-ID: <20031030173133.44448.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 09:31:33 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: troops and suicides: no worry, Rumsfeld is on the case To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1e6a281e7e8f.1e7e8f1e6a28@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- John Williams wrote: > Why not ask some of the human shields that are there > to protect the > Iraqi people? (Although they don't seem to be doing > such a good job as > far as the Red Cross and UN are concerned.) I somehow had the idea the shields were no longer in business . My inpression is that they felt a mite Mongo-like and "decamped". __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 13:48:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9UJm16q025766 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:48:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 03E371E600DA; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:44:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C66F61E600D9 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:44:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A284DE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:37:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14252394 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:37:31 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9UJbUd31916 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:37:31 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:37:30 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:37:12 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: happened upon Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h9UJm16q025766 In the course of looking for some information about the history of streamline in design I happened upon a very cool site for anyone who is interested in aircraft. It is a very large collection by type of aircraft photos. http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Menu.htm BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 13:48:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9UJmI6q025772 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:48:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 86CF61E600DA; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:44:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 549FC1E600D9 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:44:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A284DF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:37:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14252413 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:37:48 -0500 Received: from web20516.mail.yahoo.com (web20516.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.232.185]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9UJbmd31971 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:37:48 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20516.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 11:37:47 PST Message-ID: <20031030193747.99815.qmail@web20516.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 11:37:47 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Q of Hours To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In your region of the country, does unclassified clerical staff work from 8:00 AM to 5:00 PM, or 9:00 AM to 5:00 PM? There really is a purpose for this question. Compliance is not mandatory, but all meebers are encouraged to participate. Thank you. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 13:52:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9UJq16q025802 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:52:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 352911E6012A; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:48:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0216B1E600D9 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:48:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2850D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:41:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14252765 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:41:31 -0500 Received: from web20509.mail.yahoo.com (web20509.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.144]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9UJfVd00313 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:41:31 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20509.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 11:41:26 PST Message-ID: <20031030194126.14125.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 11:41:26 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: happened upon To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Paul Barfoot wrote: > In the course of looking for some information about > the history of streamline in design I happened upon > a very cool site for anyone who is interested in > aircraft. It is a very large collection by type of > aircraft photos. > > http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Menu.htm > > > BrP Most interesting to me is the "mystery" plane. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 14:11:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9UKBC6q025935 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:11:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D9E161E600D9; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:07:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA191E600DA for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:07:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A285A2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:00:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14254181 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:00:41 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9UK0fd03514 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:00:41 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9UK0PeO028008 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:00:25 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9UK0Oa2027994 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:00:25 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031030115700.00a5b510@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 11:57:22 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Q of Hours In-Reply-To: <20031030193747.99815.qmail@web20516.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 8-5 here. At 11:37 AM 10/30/2003 -0800, you wrote: >In your region of the country, does unclassified >clerical staff work from 8:00 AM to 5:00 PM, or 9:00 >AM to 5:00 PM? > >There really is a purpose for this question. > >Compliance is not mandatory, but all meebers are >encouraged to participate. > >Thank you. > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search >http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 14:16:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9UKGv6q025963 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:16:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 65DB81E600E1; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:13:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 384341E600DF for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:13:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A285DA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:06:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14254716 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:06:26 -0500 Received: from mail46.fg.online.no (mail46-s.fg.online.no [148.122.161.46]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9UK6Qd04513 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:06:26 -0500 Received: from espeno-latt.nb.no (ti211310a080-8005.bb.online.no [80.212.95.69]) by mail46.fg.online.no (8.9.3p2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA04912 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:06:04 +0100 (MET) X-no-archive: yes X-homepage: www.nb.no Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031030210657.02507cd0@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:07:47 +0100 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "Espen S. Ore" Subject: Re: Q of Hours In-Reply-To: <20031030193747.99815.qmail@web20516.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031030193747.99815.qmail@web20516.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 20:37 30.10.2003, Lynne Weber skrev: >In your region of the country, does unclassified >clerical staff work from 8:00 AM to 5:00 PM, or 9:00 >AM to 5:00 PM? 8:00 AM to 3:45 PM in the winter 8:00 AM to 3:00 PM in the summer (May 15 - Sept. 14) Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 14:22:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9UKMN6q026009 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:22:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3A8921E600E1; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:18:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CBD31E600DF for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:18:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A285E8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:11:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14254237 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:11:53 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9UK1Qd03647 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:01:26 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9UK0rKE009156 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:00:53 -0500 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:01:26 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Q of Hours In-Reply-To: <20031030193747.99815.qmail@web20516.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031030193747.99815.qmail@web20516.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >In your region of the country, does unclassified >clerical staff work from 8:00 AM to 5:00 PM, or 9:00 >AM to 5:00 PM? Clerical staff DO work from 8-5 here. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 14:37:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9UKb56q026127 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:37:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3AE441E6012A; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:33:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 097191E600DF for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:33:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001C703F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:26:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14256316 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:26:34 -0500 Received: from fe2.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9UKQRd07683 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:26:27 -0500 Received: from [136.167.88.199] (HELO bc.edu) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.5) with ESMTP id 33771625 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:26:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA173F2.3080909@bc.edu> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:26:26 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Q of Hours References: <20031030193747.99815.qmail@web20516.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031030193747.99815.qmail@web20516.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: >In your region of the country, does unclassified >clerical staff work from 8:00 AM to 5:00 PM, or 9:00 >AM to 5:00 PM? > > > 8:45 AM to 4:45 PM here at BC which may or may not be the norm for this region but it is all I know for sure. Rita L. -- Rita Leonard Information Technology Systems Services O'Neill Library 544 Phone: 617-552-3403 Email: rita.leonard@bc.edu "Whether you believe you can do a thing or not, you are right." Henry Ford From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 14:38:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9UKce6q026132 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:38:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8BF501E6012A; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:35:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E13B1E600E1 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:35:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A286A1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:28:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14256505 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:28:09 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9UKS9d07979 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:28:09 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HNL78Y01.619 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:22:10 -0700 From: "John Williams" To: English Language Discussion Group Message-ID: <1ec8a31eeb9e.1eeb9e1ec8a3@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:22:10 -0700 X-Mailer: Netscape Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en Subject: Re: Q of Hours X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Lynne Weber Date: Thursday, October 30, 2003 12:37 pm Subject: Q of Hours > In your region of the country, does unclassified > clerical staff work from 8:00 AM to 5:00 PM, or 9:00 > AM to 5:00 PM? All over the freakin' map. Campus is open from 0700 to 2200, and starting times in my department range from 0530 to 1500. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 14:50:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9UKo56q026318 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:50:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DAF2B1E600DF; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:44:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACBFD1E600E1 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:44:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A286EA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:37:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14257140 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:37:59 -0500 Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9UKbxd09045 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:37:59 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HNL00B3Y7YYQ4@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:37:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:34:01 -0500 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:34:01 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Indians and Casinos To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <30d07d30e891.30e89130d07d@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > bought lottery scratch tickets were spending hundreds of dollars > a month on > > them. How can that not threaten the ability to pay for basic > necessities? > Don't forget the time Marie got to join Wordslers at a restaurant > because she won the lottery. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I never spent hundreds of dollars or even tens of dollars a month on the lottery. That was just a fluke of . I bought one pick three ticket with my last dollar bill. (probably after buying a pack of cigarettes, but that's a whole nother thing...) Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 14:52:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9UKqi6q026354 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:52:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EEF181E60036; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:49:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C003C1E600E1 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:49:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A28709@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:42:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14257573 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:42:14 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9UKgDd09785 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:42:13 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-26.gwi.net [216.195.153.26]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9UKgAAt028569; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:42:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031030154049.00b4fbb0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:42:09 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Q of Hours In-Reply-To: <20031030193747.99815.qmail@web20516.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:37 AM 10/30/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >In your region of the country, does unclassified >clerical staff work from 8:00 AM to 5:00 PM, or 9:00 >AM to 5:00 PM? In TVA-land, standard clerical hours were 8 to 4:45. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 15:03:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9UL3Z6q026469 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:03:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1FA1E1E60036; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:00:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1B9C1E600DF for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:00:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2878C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:53:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14258599 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:53:05 -0500 Received: from razorbill.mail.pas.earthlink.net (razorbill.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.248]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9UKr4d12405 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:53:05 -0500 Received: from sdn-ap-021txhousp0282.dialsprint.net ([65.177.17.28] helo=earthlink.net) by razorbill.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AFJmx-0003uI-00 for words-L@listserv.uga.edu; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:53:04 -0800 Message-ID: <410-220031043020535388@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: dormarbil@earthlink.net X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2003.2.92.0 (Windows) From: "Doris Smith" To: words-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: IMFTATL - error message after installing updates and rebooting Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:53:05 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII X-ELNK-Trace: 0f572b91323e03d8e9ef466adc09f07e7e972de0d01da940f58dfd2f928241b27e3102747f6ae73c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

What does this mean:
 
msmsg.exe - Entry Point Not Found
The procedure entry point WaitForSf could not be located in the dynamic link library KERNEL32.dll
 
After installing some Windows XP updates (none critical and non drivers) and then rebooting, the above message keeps popping up. It's not keeping me from doing anything I'm doing, but it is annoying and frightening.
 
I've done a google search and find much information on KERNEL32 errors, and some on Entry Point Not Found errors, but none are specific to my own message.
 
Any ideas???
 
 
Doris Smith
Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.
 

From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 15:17:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ULHY6q026554 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:17:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5C4D71E600E1; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:14:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C2531E60036 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:14:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A28813@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:06:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14259931 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:06:57 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9UL6vd15694 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:06:57 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:06:47 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7763E@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: IMFTATL - error message after installing updates and rebootin g Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:06:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU -----Original Message----- From: Doris Smith [mailto:dormarbil@EARTHLINK.NET] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 3:53 PM What does this mean: msmsg.exe - Entry Point Not Found The procedure entry point WaitForSf could not be located in the dynamic link library KERNEL32.dll After installing some Windows XP updates (none critical and non drivers) and then rebooting, the above message keeps popping up. It's not keeping me from doing anything I'm doing, but it is annoying and frightening. I've done a google search and find much information on KERNEL32 errors, and some on Entry Point Not Found errors, but none are specific to my own message. Any ideas??? ----------------------- I've translated HTML->text Are you certain it's not msmsgs.exe? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 15:19:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ULJr6q026580 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:19:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B6BB91E600E1; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:16:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85A481E60036 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:16:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2880A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:09:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14260013 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:09:22 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law9-f45.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.45]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9UL9Md16169 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:09:22 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:09:16 -0800 Received: from 24.173.85.38 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:09:16 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.173.85.38] X-Originating-Email: [toalanne@hotmail.com] From: "Anne Toal" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: IMFTATL - error message after installing updates and rebooting Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:09:16 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Oct 2003 21:09:16.0956 (UTC) FILETIME=[140105C0:01C39F2A] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sounds like you upgraded MSN Messenger and something got messed up. -a _________________________________________________________________ Enjoy MSN 8 patented spam control and more with MSN 8 Dial-up Internet Service. Try it FREE for one month! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 15:20:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ULKG6q026585 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:20:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A2BB51E60134; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:16:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69B751E600E1 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:16:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A28819@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:09:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14260020 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:09:45 -0500 Received: from razorbill.mail.pas.earthlink.net (razorbill.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.248]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9UL9jd16224 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:09:45 -0500 Received: from sdn-ap-021txhousp0282.dialsprint.net ([65.177.17.28] helo=earthlink.net) by razorbill.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AFK36-0000SP-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:09:45 -0800 Message-ID: <410-220031043021945957@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: dormarbil@earthlink.net X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2003.2.92.0 (Windows) From: "Doris Smith" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Re: IMFTATL - error message after installing updates and rebooting Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:09:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-ELNK-Trace: 0f572b91323e03d8e9ef466adc09f07e7e972de0d01da940c854a6a0b62c804a1adca9272eecdc7f350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Yes, it is msmsgs.exe - sorry.......... Doris S > > I've translated HTML->text > > Are you certain it's not msmsgs.exe? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 15:34:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ULY76q026738 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:34:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B0B111E600D0; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:30:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 831ED1E60036 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:30:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001C7237@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:23:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14260894 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:23:36 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ULNad19354 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:23:36 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:23:30 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7763F@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: IMFTATL - error message after installing updates and rebootin g Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:23:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Doris Smith [mailto:dormarbil@EARTHLINK.NET] >Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 4:10 PM >Yes, it is msmsgs.exe - sorry.......... > >Doris S > >> >> I've translated HTML->text >> >> Are you certain it's not msmsgs.exe? It's not that I'm psychotic (oops, maybe I am), er, psychic, but msmsgs.exe is the little bastard I turn off in XP/Pro. Spammers use a web crawler looking for unprotected IP addresses and push a popup window when possible. If you go to the appropriate service & turn the messages service to manual, XP will turn it back on. If you turn it off altogether, XP will be start it back up. And if the messenger icon is in your system tray and you try to turn it off, it'll basically stick out its tongue at you, claiming some dependent program requires it (Outlook, IE, etc.) so it's not going to behave. In essence, you aren't allowed to control your PC. What I do is restart in safe/command mode, rename msmsgs.exe to something similar (e.g., msmsgs.exe.0), then reboot. I've got a bunch of working partitions (granted, some of them run archaic versions of Windows to have access to older versions of other woftware) and some Linux space, but mostly, a whole bunch of Windows XP/Professional (there are too many network issues in XP Home) partitions to deal with Home|Apps, Research, Work, Games, etc. I have yet to see exorcising msmsgs.exe from my system do anything other than put a piece of duct tape over Microsoft's mouth when it won't shut up. (and if something did go wrong, I could always rename it) Oh, and I don't have to worry about configuring my firewall without installing something else - I do run other software, but I'm not bound to it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 15:47:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ULlm6q026918 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:47:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6F51E1E600E4; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:44:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E2051E600DD for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:44:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A288F1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:37:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14262143 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:37:17 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ULbHd22271 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:37:17 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A288EF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:37:16 -0500 Message-Id: <200310302137.h9ULbHd22271@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:37:17 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: troops and suicides: no worry, Rumsfeld is on the case To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:45:41 -0500, Marty Rosen wrote: >>From: Carolyn Ostrander >> Marty, are you really Wimsey like? Oh, swoon! >>clo > >ROFL. Probably much closer to Nero Wolfe. LOL! Even better! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 15:52:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ULqj6q026952 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:52:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 62C0E1E600E4; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:49:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 356431E600DD for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:49:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A28907@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:42:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14262481 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:42:14 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ULgEd23035 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:42:14 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001C72B3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:42:14 -0500 Message-Id: <200310302142.h9ULgEd23035@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:42:14 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Q of Hours To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 11:37:47 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >In your region of the country, does unclassified >clerical staff work from 8:00 AM to 5:00 PM, or 9:00 >AM to 5:00 PM? 8:30 - 5:00 with a 1-hr unpaid lunch break = 35 hr/wk @ univ. elsewhere, the answer is neither a) nor b) but "possibly". >There really is a purpose for this question. > >Compliance is not mandatory, but all meebers are >encouraged to participate. > >Thank you. Welcome. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 15:52:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9ULqr6q026956 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:52:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B57721E600E4; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:49:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86FA71E600DD for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:49:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A28916@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:42:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14262485 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:42:22 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ULgMd23054 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:42:22 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003103021421601300gopd8e>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:42:16 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031030133032.0271ffb0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:42:07 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: IMFTATL - error message after installing updates and rebootin g In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7763F@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton writes, >What I do is restart in safe/command mode, rename msmsgs.exe to something >similar (e.g., msmsgs.exe.0), then reboot. Sometimes critical updates put it back. Here's a little more information and an extended exorcism howto: . Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 16:01:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9UM166q027021 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:01:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2CFE41E600E6; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:57:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9FCA1E600E4 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:57:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A28953@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:50:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14263205 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:50:35 -0500 Received: from razorbill.mail.pas.earthlink.net (razorbill.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.248]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9ULoYd24653 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:50:34 -0500 Received: from sdn-ap-021txhousp0282.dialsprint.net ([65.177.17.28] helo=earthlink.net) by razorbill.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AFKgb-0003KK-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:50:34 -0800 Message-ID: <410-2200310430215035129@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: dormarbil@earthlink.net X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2003.2.92.0 (Windows) From: "Doris Smith" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Re: IMFTATL - error message after installing updates and rebooting Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:50:35 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-ELNK-Trace: 0f572b91323e03d8e9ef466adc09f07e7e972de0d01da940cd2fadea76f0e1848f092e838729e729350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I thank you so much - Phil and Pete. Since I'm using XP Home edition, I'll do what is outlined in the exorcism instructions sent by Pete first. Do you two "gooroos" have any idea about my sound??? Doris Smith dormarbil@earthlink.net Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. > [Original Message] > From: Peter Kaminski > To: > Date: 10/30/2003 3:42:27 PM > Subject: Re: IMFTATL - error message after installing updates and rebooting > > Phil Paxton writes, > > >What I do is restart in safe/command mode, rename msmsgs.exe to something > >similar (e.g., msmsgs.exe.0), then reboot. > > Sometimes critical updates put it back. Here's a little more information > and an extended exorcism howto: > . > > Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 16:15:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9UMFh6q027201 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:15:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 438AB1E60138; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:12:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11D121E600EB for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:12:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001C73EA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:05:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14265420 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:05:06 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9UM55d27423 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:05:05 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:05:00 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77641@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: IMFTATL - error message after installing updates and rebootin g Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:04:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Doris Smith [mailto:dormarbil@EARTHLINK.NET] >Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 4:51 PM >I thank you so much - Phil and Pete. > >Since I'm using XP Home edition, I'll do what is outlined in >the exorcism >instructions sent by Pete first. > >Do you two "gooroos" have any idea about my sound??? Remove it from the hardware list, then shut down, add the hardware, then add it via software. And pay attention to see if there's anything which seems different at all - you'd be surprised how many times installing the same piece of hardware (and accompanying software) is not (God, strike me dead for saying this) "exactly the same". As a rule, I install Windows first but without any extraneous hardware (install a graphics card but not a sound card, or any other peripherals). After the OS is installed, I go back through the hardware list and see which items are marked with the yellow question mark. I usually try to get all of the yellow ones as they aren't that tough. Then I start shutting down, adding a piece of hardware which plugs into a PCI slot, then reboot and get it to work before moving on. Once all of the AGP- and PCI-specific items are installed, then I go on to the fun stuff (USB-slotted hardware). Most of the stuff which doesn't plug into the motherboard (AGP,PCI) should be installed by having the software install, then add the hardware. And if all else fails, I waste the partition, and start over. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 16:19:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9UMJh6q027222 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:19:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9010A1E60139; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:16:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6178C1E60138 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:16:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A28A8C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:09:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14265885 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:09:12 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9UM9Cd28386 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:09:12 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003103022090601100kaka8e>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:09:06 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031030140055.0347a548@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:08:58 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: IMFTATL - error message after installing updates and rebooting In-Reply-To: <410-2200310430215035129@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Smith writes, >Since I'm using XP Home edition, I'll do what is outlined in the exorcism >instructions sent by Pete first. Note that you shouldn't kill it if you're using MSN Messenger. The interesting bits of your error message are actually "msmsgs.exe" and "WaitForSf". It's troubling that I don't find "WaitForSf" in searches -- the closest I can get is WaitForSingleObject. If I were you I would do a virus scan before killing msmsgs.exe. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 16:19:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9UMJn6q027225 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:19:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 08D411E6013B; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:16:19 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE1F11E600EB for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:16:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A28A8D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:09:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14265896 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:09:18 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f35.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9UM9Hd28401 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:09:17 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:09:12 -0800 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:09:11 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: troops and suicides: no worry, Rumsfeld is on the case Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:09:11 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Oct 2003 22:09:12.0017 (UTC) FILETIME=[72D3CC10:01C39F32] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: John Williams > >Why not ask some of the human shields that are there to protect the >Iraqi people? (Although they don't seem to be doing such a good job as >far as the Red Cross and UN are concerned.) They were there in an attempt to forestall what has proven to be an unjustified war, and have since returned to their homes. Oh, wait a minute, maybe you're in possession of secret information that Bush, Cheney, and Rummy were telling the truth about the imminent danger from weapons of mass destruction and Hussein's complicity in 9/11. If it's not too confidential, could you, um, pass along the proof? _________________________________________________________________ See when your friends are online with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 16:21:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9UMLg6q027245 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:21:42 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DFAF01E60138; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:18:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEE1C1E600EB for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:18:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001C7441@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:11:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14266054 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:11:10 -0500 Received: from razorbill.mail.pas.earthlink.net (razorbill.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.248]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9UMBAd28726 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:11:10 -0500 Received: from sdn-ap-021txhousp0243.dialsprint.net ([65.177.16.243] helo=earthlink.net) by razorbill.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AFL0W-0001HQ-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:11:09 -0800 Message-ID: <410-220031043022119900@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: dormarbil@earthlink.net X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2003.2.92.0 (Windows) From: "Doris Smith" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Re: IMFTATL - error message after installing updates and rebooting Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:11:09 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-ELNK-Trace: 0f572b91323e03d8e9ef466adc09f07e7e972de0d01da94030bf67db7691b927c04db48a1134960d350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU All of this makes sense, except I don't have separate software. Is it included in the Windows XP CD?? Doris Smith dormarbil@earthlink.net Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. > [Original Message] > From: Phil Paxton > To: > Date: 10/30/2003 4:05:31 PM > Subject: Re: IMFTATL - error message after installing updates and rebooting > > >From: Doris Smith [mailto:dormarbil@EARTHLINK.NET] > >Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 4:51 PM > > >I thank you so much - Phil and Pete. > > > >Since I'm using XP Home edition, I'll do what is outlined in > >the exorcism > >instructions sent by Pete first. > > > >Do you two "gooroos" have any idea about my sound??? > > Remove it from the hardware list, then shut down, add the hardware, then add > it via software. > > And pay attention to see if there's anything which seems different at all - > you'd be surprised how many times installing the same piece of hardware (and > accompanying software) is not (God, strike me dead for saying this) "exactly > the same". > > As a rule, I install Windows first but without any extraneous hardware > (install a graphics card but not a sound card, or any other peripherals). > After the OS is installed, I go back through the hardware list and see which > items are marked with the yellow question mark. I usually try to get all of > the yellow ones as they aren't that tough. Then I start shutting down, > adding a piece of hardware which plugs into a PCI slot, then reboot and get > it to work before moving on. Once all of the AGP- and PCI-specific items > are installed, then I go on to the fun stuff (USB-slotted hardware). > > Most of the stuff which doesn't plug into the motherboard (AGP,PCI) should > be installed by having the software install, then add the hardware. > > And if all else fails, I waste the partition, and start over. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 16:23:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9UMNi6q027281 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:23:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 10FA11E60139; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:20:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7D7E1E600EB for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:20:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001C7451@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:13:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14266198 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:13:13 -0500 Received: from razorbill.mail.pas.earthlink.net (razorbill.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.248]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9UMDCd29067 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:13:12 -0500 Received: from sdn-ap-021txhousp0243.dialsprint.net ([65.177.16.243] helo=earthlink.net) by razorbill.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AFL2V-0001nc-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:13:12 -0800 Message-ID: <410-2200310430221312606@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: dormarbil@earthlink.net X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2003.2.92.0 (Windows) From: "Doris Smith" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Re: IMFTATL - error message after installing updates and rebooting Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:13:12 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-ELNK-Trace: 0f572b91323e03d8e9ef466adc09f07e7e972de0d01da94085ac2e3a4bd34e5070f5016cc9d804f1350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Yup - and it appears to be gone now after using what Pete suggested. And thank you for your suggestions, too. Doris Smith dormarbil@earthlink.net Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. > [Original Message] > From: Anne Toal > To: > Date: 10/30/2003 3:09:23 PM > Subject: Re: IMFTATL - error message after installing updates and rebooting > > Sounds like you upgraded MSN Messenger and something got messed up. > > -a > > _________________________________________________________________ > Enjoy MSN 8 patented spam control and more with MSN 8 Dial-up Internet > Service. Try it FREE for one month! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 16:33:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9UMXl6q027385 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:33:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 70F481E6013B; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:30:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F0D21E60140 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:30:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A28B00@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:23:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14267078 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:23:16 -0500 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9UMNGd30802 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:23:16 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1e7.126da968 (18707) for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:22:29 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1e7.126da968.2cd2e925@aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:22:29 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] mom wants a dog To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/30/2003 9:15:45 AM Central Standard Time, PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM writes: << Because Furby runs on batteries, I'm surprised no one has found a way to turn Furby into a BOB. >> "BOB"? As in Microsoft Bob or Twin Peaks' Bob? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com The owls are not what they seem. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 16:36:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9UMaf6q027394 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:36:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DFBA01E6013B; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:33:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE5811E60138 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:33:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A28B0D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:26:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14267231 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:26:10 -0500 Received: from imo-r01.mx.aol.com (imo-r01.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.97]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9UMQ9d31107 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:26:09 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.166.278b8041 (18707) for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:24:36 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <166.278b8041.2cd2e9a4@aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:24:36 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] cable To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/30/2003 9:57:30 AM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << I suppose it would be too much to hope that he recorded any of the calls. >> Oh, yes, Keith played several of them on his show last night. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 16:46:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9UMkQ6q027469 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:46:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6D74D1E60138; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:42:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38E511E600EB for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:42:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A28B45@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:35:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14267836 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:35:55 -0500 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9UMZtd32317 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:35:55 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1e9.12328bfd (18707) for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:35:23 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1e9.12328bfd.2cd2ec2b@aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:35:23 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] mom wants a dog To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/30/2003 7:10:06 AM Central Standard Time, leonard@BC.EDU writes: << Evelyn, Just stall until she changes her mind again. Don't put yourself through this again. >> I can stall her until I get my 401K check due to the fact that we're short of money. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 16:49:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9UMnI6q027483 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:49:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 59C741E600EB; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:45:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 275351E600EA for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:45:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A28B6B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:38:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14268034 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:38:47 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9UMcld32670 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:38:47 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2003103022384001400h7qqhe>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:38:40 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031030141027.03962bd8@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:38:29 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: IMFTATL - error message after installing updates and rebootin g In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77641@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton writes, >And if all else fails, I waste the partition, and start over. My approach too, except that I'm running Windows under VMware (under Linux), so I have saved a clean base install snapshot, and start from there. Persistent application data is all on the Linux/Samba fileshare. And I'm not up to XP yet, just W2K. The sound card, however, is still in its box on my desk. I'm supposed to install it someday so IM messages can "ding," but I'm not crazy about computers that make noise -- and I play my MP3s on a dedicated Audiotron appliance. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 17:23:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9UNNF6q027839 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:23:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1EF0E1E6013D; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:19:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E15AF1E600ED for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:19:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001C75CF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:12:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14270482 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:12:44 -0500 Received: from razorbill.mail.pas.earthlink.net (razorbill.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.248]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9UNChd04739 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:12:43 -0500 Received: from sdn-ap-021txhousp0243.dialsprint.net ([65.177.16.243] helo=earthlink.net) by razorbill.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AFLy6-0001CS-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:12:43 -0800 Message-ID: <410-2200310430231244112@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: dormarbil@earthlink.net X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2003.2.92.0 (Windows) From: "Doris Smith" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Re: IMFTATL - error message after installing updates and rebooting Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:12:44 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-ELNK-Trace: 0f572b91323e03d8e9ef466adc09f07e7e972de0d01da9407bf33f752e164bf25f57fb8a0291df14350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU No viruses found............ Now I'm going to remove the sound card from the hardware list ............... > > If I were you I would do a virus scan before killing msmsgs.exe. > > Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 17:47:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9UNln6q028214 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:47:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 048E51E60149; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:44:19 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6D4B1E60144 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:44:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A28CE3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:37:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14271418 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:37:18 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9UNbHd07296 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:37:17 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:37:12 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77642@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: IMFTATL - error message after installing updates and rebootin g Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:37:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Peter Kaminski [mailto:kaminski@ISTORI.COM] >Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 5:09 PM >Note that you shouldn't kill it if you're using MSN Messenger. What's "MSN Messenger" ? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 17:57:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9UNv56q028255 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:57:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6728D1E60140; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:53:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38CDB1E60144 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:53:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A28D02@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:46:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14271726 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:46:33 -0500 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9UNkXd08037 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:46:33 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.e4.403386d4 (18707) for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:45:18 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:45:17 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] IMFTATL - error message after installing updates and rebootin g To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/30/2003 5:37:47 PM Central Standard Time, PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM writes: << What's "MSN Messenger" ? >> It's an instant messaging program, similar to AOL's (or BITNET's TELL EXEC). Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 18:01:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9V01A6q028293 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:01:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CF2731E6014B; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:57:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A1891E60140 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:57:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A28D05@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:50:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14271862 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:50:33 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9UNoTd08354 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:50:33 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:50:22 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77643@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: NBC National News Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:50:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A discussion of morale. They flashed a look at the Club Med. Also, a fair % of those who are supposed to return after the fifteen-day liberty @ home are not returning. A minimum of two on every flight are not making it back (this is less than "those who are not returning") although "no one has been officially been declared AWOL". "They are now relooking at how everthing is structured, including the policy/impression that " They also had a brief interaction with someone who decided Canada looked like a nice place to live and has taken advantage of the open border. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 18:01:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9V01B6q028296 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:01:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 590B91E60140; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:57:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA4101E60149 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:57:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A28D12@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:50:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14271866 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:50:34 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9UNoXd08359 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:50:34 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003103023502701300gngoee>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 23:50:27 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031030154626.026a3950@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:50:19 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: IMFTATL - error message after installing updates and rebootin g In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77642@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton writes, >What's "MSN Messenger" ? Instant messaging protocol supported by Trillian, Gaim and Fire (though Fire might be having MSN trouble right now). My main MSN nick is "kaminski@istori.com". My other main nicks are Y!: peterkaminski AIM: peter242kaminski Just looking for an excuse to post handles. ;) Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 18:08:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9V08X6q028350 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:08:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8365B1E6014B; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:05:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53B851E60144 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:05:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A28D1D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:58:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14272002 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:58:01 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9UNw1d08941 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:58:01 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:57:56 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77644@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: IMFTATL - error message after installing updates and rebootin g Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:57:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Peter Kaminski [mailto:kaminski@ISTORI.COM] >Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 5:38 PM >Phil Paxton writes, > >>And if all else fails, I waste the partition, and start over. > >My approach too, except that I'm running Windows under VMware (under >Linux), so I have saved a clean base install snapshot, and start from >there. Persistent application data is all on the Linux/Samba >fileshare. And I'm not up to XP yet, just W2K. > >The sound card, however, is still in its box on my desk. I'm >supposed to >install it someday so IM messages can "ding," but I'm not crazy about >computers that make noise -- and I play my MP3s on a dedicated >Audiotron >appliance. Microsoft used to use VMWare (it took a long time for them to do so) - they finally realized their Dog&Pony crews could provide a reasonably sized network running on a single machine (e.g. a laptop) and show how everything interconnected. I heard (but do not remember why) they passed over VMWare and swallowed Connectix (http://tinyurl.com/t2re) - just like many other products - they don't create or innovate, just accept the price they are offering or face their wrath soon[1]. Being a friend of Tux, you might want to take a look here: http://tinyurl.com/qgaa. Also, check out Tux's best buddy on the cover of the current Wired issue. [1] For those not heavily involved in the technical community, this is not an understatement. They will gladly fly people to "Mecca" wine & dine them, then comes the time of the offer. The larger the company, the better the chances of survival. Examples of smaller fish included HotMail. Here's the offer: xxxx. Microsoft knew a good thing when they saw it, so it was "take it or beat us". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 18:16:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9V0Gl6q028437 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:16:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 963EE1E60144; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:13:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 648901E60140 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:13:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A28D24@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:06:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14272196 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:06:15 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9V06Fd09570 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:06:15 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2003103100060901400hqgite>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 00:06:09 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031030160126.02ef2f28@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:06:00 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: IMFTATL - error message after installing updates and rebootin g In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77644@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton writes, >Being a friend of Tux, you might want to take a look >here: http://tinyurl.com/qgaa. Stylin'. I'll have to play with it some day when I have some free time. >Also, check out Tux's best buddy on the cover of the current Wired issue. Subscriber. Should have seen Ethan the 14-year old geek explaining who he is to Gwynnie, his 6-year old sister. "It's *Linus* -- he started an *operating system* that's better than Windows." It mostly went over her head. :) Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 18:38:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9V0cW6q028663 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:38:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DAE4A1E60144; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:35:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8ED31E60140 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:35:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A28D9A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:27:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14273281 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:27:58 -0500 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9V0Rwd11497 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:27:58 -0500 Received: from [66.20.150.238] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:27:57 PST Message-ID: <20031031002757.93755.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:27:57 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: cable To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <166.278b8041.2cd2e9a4@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > I suppose it would be too much to hope that he > recorded any of the calls. > >> > > Oh, yes, Keith played several of them on his show > last night. If it were a police officer who had been caught saying those things, they'd "have her badge and end her career". The COMCAST person will probably get a raise. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 19:01:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9V1176q028969 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:01:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1C2011E60162; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:57:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBA181E600FA for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:57:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A28DBC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:50:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14273959 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:50:35 -0500 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9V0oYd13587 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:50:34 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.165.270e0579 (4214) for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:50:01 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <165.270e0579.2cd30bb9@aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:50:01 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] cable To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/30/2003 6:28:26 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << The COMCAST person will probably get a raise. >> I've never dealt with Comcast. The Cox people were very nice, especially when dealing with the apartment manager who swore that there would not be an outside cable going to our apartment. Part of the cable ended up on the outside of our apartment. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 19:43:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9V1h36q029362 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:43:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 92F771E600FA; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:39:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60BC81E600F4 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:39:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A28E61@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:32:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14275540 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:32:30 -0500 Received: from razorbill.mail.pas.earthlink.net (razorbill.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.248]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9V1WUd18537 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:32:30 -0500 Received: from sdn-ap-021txhousp0161.dialsprint.net ([65.177.16.161] helo=earthlink.net) by razorbill.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AFO9N-0005di-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:32:29 -0800 Message-ID: <410-220031053113230106@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: dormarbil@earthlink.net X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2003.2.92.0 (Windows) From: "Doris Smith" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Sound still no good Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:32:30 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-ELNK-Trace: 0f572b91323e03d8e9ef466adc09f07e7e972de0d01da9402e41f113ba5e966529ce2fd215b783bd350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil and Pete, Well - I uninstalled the sound card through the Device manager and rebooted the computer. The hardware was found upon rebooting and reinstalled. The sound is still terrible. Honestly, am I going to either have to do without sound or buy a new computer or find someone to work on the silly thing? And if I need to find someone to work on the silly thing, how in the world does one find someone who works on Compaq Prosignias now that HP has swallowed them up? :-( Doris S From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 20:22:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9V2M86q029739 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:22:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3A6761E60168; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:18:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B9501E600FE for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:18:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001C794D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:11:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14277169 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:11:35 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law9-oe43.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9V2BYd22333 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:11:34 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:11:29 -0800 Received: from 199.174.1.175 by law9-oe43.law9.hotmail.com with DAV; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 02:11:28 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [199.174.1.175] X-Originating-Email: [amyb_short@hotmail.com] From: "Amy Burns Short" To: Subject: Re: Q of Hours Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:11:47 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Oct 2003 02:11:29.0269 (UTC) FILETIME=[4BB46A50:01C39F54] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > In your region of the country, does unclassified > clerical staff work from 8:00 AM to 5:00 PM, or 9:00 > AM to 5:00 PM? On our campus it's 8 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. AS From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 20:26:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9V2Qh6q029753 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:26:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E863E1E60260; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:23:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA1C91E60168 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:23:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A28F2C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:16:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14277394 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:15:17 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9V2FHd22829 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:15:17 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-67.gwi.net [216.195.151.67]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9V2FFAr089939 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:15:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031030211419.00b9ccb8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:15:22 -0500 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: bonniev Subject: Survivor and the aurora Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wow was Survivor ever good tonight! Jeff, the moderator, was pissed, pissed, pissed. And before Survivor started I got to see the aurora. At last. It was red and all over the sky. Quite nice. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 20:34:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9V2YW6q029818 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:34:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F18961E6016E; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:31:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF5111E60168 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:30:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001C79B1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:23:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14280027 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:23:58 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9V2Nwd28170 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:23:58 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <200310310223530160005coge> (Authid: adamh1); Fri, 31 Oct 2003 02:23:53 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "meebers" Subject: HB Theo Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:23:52 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Happy birthday, Theo! :D --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 20:43:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9V2hm6q029930 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:43:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 453AF1E602D1; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:40:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17AA11E602BF for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:40:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A29037@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:33:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14280493 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:33:15 -0500 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9V2XEd29044 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:33:14 -0500 Received: from [66.20.150.238] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:33:14 PST Message-ID: <20031031023314.89671.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:33:14 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: troops and suicides: no worry, Rumsfeld is on the case To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Marty Rosen wrote: > >From: Carolyn Ostrander > > Marty, are you really Wimsey like? Oh, > swoon! > >clo > > ROFL. Probably much closer to Nero Wolfe. > Nothing resembling Archie or Freddie Arbuthnot? I guess we must take our Wolves as we find them. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 20:49:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9V2np6q029984 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:49:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0E0511E602BF; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:46:19 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA66B1E60260 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:46:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A29044@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:39:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14280678 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:39:17 -0500 Received: from web20503.mail.yahoo.com (web20503.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.138]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9V2dHd29503 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:39:17 -0500 Received: from [66.20.150.238] by web20503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:39:16 PST Message-ID: <20031031023916.2071.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:39:16 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: troops and suicides: no worry, Rumsfeld is on the case To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Marty Rosen wrote: > >From: John Williams > > > >Why not ask some of the human shields that are > there to protect the > >Iraqi people? (Although they don't seem to be > doing such a good job as > >far as the Red Cross and UN are concerned.) > > > They were there in an attempt to forestall what has > proven to be an > unjustified war, and have since returned to their > homes. Oh, wait a minute, > maybe you're in possession of secret information > that Bush, Cheney, and > Rummy were telling the truth about the imminent > danger from weapons of mass > destruction and Hussein's complicity in 9/11. If > it's not too confidential, > could you, um, pass along the proof? Okay, persuade me that they did not leave in disgust because they were bitterly disaapointed at the manner in which they were to be deployed. The operative word is "persuade". __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 20:59:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9V2xi6q030124 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:59:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DFAF71E602D1; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:56:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A6D1E60168 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:56:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001C7A26@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:49:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14281075 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:49:10 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9V2n9d30462 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:49:09 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9V2n82f015859 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:49:08 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9V2n7JC015847; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:49:07 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031030185033.00a5faf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:50:55 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: HB In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:23 PM 10/30/2003 -0500, Adam Hartfield wrote: >Happy birthday, Theo! :D > >--Adam AND List Honey. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 21:20:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9V3KU6q030241 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:20:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D948E1E602D2; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:16:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A71681E600FD for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:16:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A290AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:09:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14281620 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:09:56 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9V39ud31969 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:09:56 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9V39u8b031915 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:09:56 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9V39pfC026966 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:09:56 -0500 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:10:54 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor and the aurora Message-ID: <1233900656.1067551854@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031030211419.00b9ccb8@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031030211419.00b9ccb8@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > And before Survivor started I got to see the aurora. At last. It was red > and all over the sky. Quite nice. > > bonnie Ohhh, what time? I want to see! I can't seem to find much info locally about good viewing times. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 21:21:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9V3LC6q030244 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:21:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BC61A1E60160; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:17:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DD8A1E60100 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:17:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A290AE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:10:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14281636 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:10:38 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9V3Acd32032 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:10:38 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9V3Ac8b031950 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:10:38 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9V3AcfC027080 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:10:38 -0500 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:11:41 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: HB Theo Message-ID: <1233946859.1067551901@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Happy birthday, Theo! :D > > --Adam Many Happy Returns of the day! Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 21:22:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9V3Me6q030248 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:22:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 70E9E1E600FD; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:19:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42F7C1E60160 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:19:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A290CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:12:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14281742 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:12:00 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9V3C0d32152 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:12:00 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9V3C08b031980 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:12:00 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9V3C0fC027270 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:12:00 -0500 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:13:03 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: HB Message-ID: <1234028890.1067551983@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031030185033.00a5faf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <4.2.2.20031030185033.00a5faf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > AND List Honey. > > > Betty Happy Birthday, Adam! Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 21:23:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9V3NI6q030260 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:23:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9C9C91E60160; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:19:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F8351E60100 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:19:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A290D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:12:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14281884 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:12:45 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9V3Cjd32589 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:12:45 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <200310310312400160005ctie> (Authid: adamh1); Fri, 31 Oct 2003 03:12:40 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Q of Hours Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:12:39 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20031030193747.99815.qmail@web20516.mail.yahoo.com> Importance: Normal X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > In your region of the country, does unclassified > clerical staff work from 8:00 AM to 5:00 PM, or 9:00 > AM to 5:00 PM? If our secretary was full time, she'd work 8 to 5 with an hour lunch. --Adam adamh1@comcast.net From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 21:23:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9V3Nt6q030276 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:23:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7A3F81E600FD; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:20:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CEB61E60100 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:20:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A290DB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:13:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14281947 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:13:22 -0500 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9V3DMd32753 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:13:22 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1c7.11085a51 (4426) for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:13:09 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1c7.11085a51.2cd32d45@aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:13:09 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] HB To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Happy Birthday, Theo! Happy Birthday, Adam! Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 21:24:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9V3OY6q030279 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:24:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A48041E60160; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:21:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 770641E60100 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:21:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A290D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:14:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14281991 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:14:01 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9V3E1d00408 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:14:01 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9V3E18b032021 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:14:01 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9V3E1fC027530 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:14:01 -0500 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:15:04 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Q of Hours Message-ID: <1234149796.1067552104@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU So Amy, what did you make with the butternut? I finally found a recipe for soup and tried it today. Yum, very sage tasting. I added more squash for a creamier soup. Alan thinks some chopped ham would round it out. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 21:51:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9V3pQ6q030565 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:51:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 07C031E60168; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:47:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAB381E600FD for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:47:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001C7B36@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:40:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14283027 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:40:52 -0500 Received: from web20512.mail.yahoo.com (web20512.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9V3eqd02981 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:40:52 -0500 Received: from [66.20.150.238] by web20512.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:40:50 PST Message-ID: <20031031034050.3477.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:40:50 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: HB Adam and Theo To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo, in the old country (Pennsylvania) we used to call this Mischief Night. Have you been up to anything on your birthday? How's Micky? Adam, you do so much for us than just managing the List, Honey. HB! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 22:01:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9V41E6q030607 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:01:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ED2411E60170; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:57:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF25B1E60168 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:57:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2916D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:50:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14283498 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:50:39 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9V3odd03871 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:50:39 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-1.gwi.net [216.195.150.1]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9V3obAr005758 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:50:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031030224912.00ba0970@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:50:44 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Survivor and the aurora In-Reply-To: <1233900656.1067551854@TWild.uri.edu> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031030211419.00b9ccb8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031030211419.00b9ccb8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Ohhh, what time? I want to see! I can't seem to find much info locally >about good viewing times. >Terry I saw it around 6:30 until almost 8 p.m. And right now, at 10:45, it is doing it's thing again. This time it has a green tint and is mostly in the Northern sky. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 22:03:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9V4316q030611 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:03:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CC8D61E60170; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:59:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B3B41E60168 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:59:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2916D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:52:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14283636 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:52:27 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9V3qRd04148 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:52:27 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-1.gwi.net [216.195.150.1]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9V3qQAr006049 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:52:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031030225158.00b4e988@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:52:33 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Q of Hours In-Reply-To: <1234149796.1067552104@TWild.uri.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I finally found a recipe for soup and tried it today. Yum, very sage >tasting. I added more squash for a creamier soup. Alan thinks some >chopped ham would round it out. >Terry Terry, I just tonight started on the second big bag of peanuts that your brought to me at fest time. Thank you again. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 22:34:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9V4YS6q030994 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:34:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F39DB1E60168; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:30:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C55921E6010B for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:30:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A29443@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 23:23:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14289202 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 23:23:54 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9V4Nsd09117 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 23:23:54 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9V4Ns8b000917 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 23:23:54 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9V4NsfC003862 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 23:23:54 -0500 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 23:25:08 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Q of Hours Message-ID: <1238342812.1067556308@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031030225158.00b4e988@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031030225158.00b4e988@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Terry, I just tonight started on the second big bag of peanuts that your > brought to me at fest time. Thank you again. > > > bonnie You are very welcome. We still have a bag in the freezer. Time to use them up, maybe a handful in a stirfry. Need fresh ones soon for brittle. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 30 23:41:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9V5fo6q031690 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 23:41:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CC7B61E6010F; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 23:38:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA051E60104 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 23:38:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A296D0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 0:31:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14293632 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 00:31:16 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9V5VGd15472 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 00:31:16 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003103105310901300es1c1e>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 05:31:10 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031030212353.043b8560@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:31:00 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Survivor and the aurora In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031030211419.00b9ccb8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev writes, >And before Survivor started I got to see the aurora. At last. It was red >and all over the sky. Quite nice. Here's a pretty shot from Alaska: . Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 01:15:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9V7FC6q032402 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 01:15:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4BA451E6011E; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 01:11:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 194C91E60119 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 01:11:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A29881@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 2:04:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14297725 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 02:04:36 -0500 Received: from vmmr6.verisignmail.com (omrnat1.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.169]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9V74Zd24508 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 02:04:36 -0500 Received: from ms4.verisignmail.com (ms4.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.177] (may be forged)) by vmmr6.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id QGE41227; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:41:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by ms4.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id ATR69287; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:41:38 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:39:15 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: IMFTATL - error message after installing updates and rebooting Reply-To: mem@noxiousweeds.net Message-ID: <3FA11483.8289.1008617@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <410-2200310430215035129@earthlink.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 30 Oct 2003 at 15:50, Doris Smith wrote: > Do you two "gooroos" have any idea about my sound??? Observation from a non-gooroo: It wasn't clear to me from your first message whether the sound had ever worked properly. Is this a problem that began after the sound system had been working correctly for some time or is it a problem you've had since installing the machine? Please don't take this the wrong way, but are you absolutely certain you have the speakers plugged in correctly? Are they powered speakers? mem From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 02:24:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9V8O06q000666 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 02:24:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C21FB1E60184; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 02:20:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F65D1E6011D for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 02:20:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A298CE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 3:13:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14298968 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 03:13:25 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9V8DPd29445 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 03:13:25 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A298DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 3:13:24 -0500 Message-Id: <200310310813.h9V8DPd29445@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 03:13:25 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: HB Theo To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:23:52 -0500, Adam Hartfield wrote: >Happy birthday, Theo! :D > >--Adam Happy Bday, Theo! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 02:26:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9V8QE6q000698 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 02:26:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A8CAB1E60183; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 02:22:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78DD91E6011D for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 02:22:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A298F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 3:15:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14299093 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 03:15:39 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9V8Fdd29706 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 03:15:39 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001C81B2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 3:15:38 -0500 Message-Id: <200310310815.h9V8Fdd29706@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 03:15:39 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: HB To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:13:03 -0500, Terry Wild wrote: >> AND List Honey. >> >> >> Betty > > >Happy Birthday, Adam! > >Terry HB, Adam. I think of you every time I listen to my CD. 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Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: HB In-Reply-To: <1c7.11085a51.2cd32d45@aol.com> Message-ID: References: <1c7.11085a51.2cd32d45@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Happy Birthday, Theo! > >Happy Birthday, Adam! Indeed! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 07:11:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VDBe6q003280 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 07:11:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 403721E601D7; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 07:08:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ECFA1E601D5 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 07:08:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A29C32@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 8:01:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14306936 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:01:02 -0500 Received: from fe3.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VD11d09981 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:01:01 -0500 Received: from [136.167.88.199] (HELO bc.edu) by fe3.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.5) with ESMTP id 34991153 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:00:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA25D09.30401@bc.edu> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:00:57 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: HB References: <1c7.11085a51.2cd32d45@aol.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Happy Birthday Adam and Theo! And Happy Halloween everybody :-) Rita L. -- Rita Leonard Information Technology Systems Services O'Neill Library 544 Phone: 617-552-3403 Email: rita.leonard@bc.edu "Whether you believe you can do a thing or not, you are right." Henry Ford From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 07:24:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VDOn6q003419 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 07:24:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F10F21E601DE; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 07:21:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFAC21E601D7 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 07:21:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A29C88@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 8:14:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14307169 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:14:11 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VD4Bd10702 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:04:11 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9VD3ZKE029045 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:03:38 -0500 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:04:09 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Happy Halloween Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Happy Halloween all - it seems appropriate that I picked up some of the play money $20 bills yesterday - they look like Halloween! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 07:50:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VDoG6q003689 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 07:50:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 042831E601DE; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 07:46:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA6A1E601D1 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 07:46:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A29D15@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 8:39:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14308970 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:39:38 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VDdcd15488 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:39:38 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-133.gwi.net [216.195.156.133]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9VDdZAr062661 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:39:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031031083915.00b27588@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:39:44 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Survivor and the aurora In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031030212353.043b8560@mail.istori.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031030211419.00b9ccb8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >bonniev writes, > >>And before Survivor started I got to see the aurora. At last. It was red >>and all over the sky. Quite nice. > >Here's a pretty shot from Alaska: . >Pete Very, very nice. Ours was more like this: http://science.nasa.gov/spaceweather/aurora/images2003/29oct03d/Winter1.jpg bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 07:55:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VDtR6q003730 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 07:55:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D6A231E601DF; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 07:51:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A85101E601DE for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 07:51:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A29D27@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 8:44:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14309182 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:44:38 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9VDhmd15965 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:43:48 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:43:48 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:43:36 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: HB Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id h9VDtR6q003730 d'accord I hope it's a happy one BrP >>> BrandyKitt@AOL.COM 10/30/03 10:13PM >>> Happy Birthday, Theo! Happy Birthday, Adam! Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 08:00:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VE076q003788 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:00:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 54F861E601DE; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 07:56:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2620A1E601E1 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 07:56:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A29D36@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 8:49:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14309342 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:49:29 -0500 Received: from mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VDnTd16529 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:49:29 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HNM00ECCJQH5I@mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:49:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.135] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:45:43 -0500 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:45:43 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: HB Adam and Theo To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <32d4a432fe86.32fe8632d4a4@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Theo, in the old country (Pennsylvania) we used to > call this Mischief Night. It still goes on in PA. One night my parents came home to find their picnic table on the roof! Seems to be an unknown thing in NY, something I'm glad for. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 08:46:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VEkw6q004323 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:46:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 634C71E601EA; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:43:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 325CB1E601E5 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:43:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A29F0F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 9:36:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14313345 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:36:19 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law9-f67.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VEaIv27264 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:36:18 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 06:36:12 -0800 Received: from 24.173.85.38 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:36:12 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.173.85.38] X-Originating-Email: [toalanne@hotmail.com] From: "Anne Toal" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Sound still no good Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:36:12 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Oct 2003 14:36:12.0508 (UTC) FILETIME=[54FD99C0:01C39FBC] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'd definitely start playing the angle that "the only way to fix this problem is to get a new computer!" :-) FWIW, when I built my latest computer this summer, I put in an Asus motherboard with an onboard Dolby sound chipset. http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socketa/a7n8x-d/overview.htm Ditched my Soundblaster card and never looked back! -aht _________________________________________________________________ Fretting that your Hotmail account may expire because you forgot to sign in enough? Get Hotmail Extra Storage today! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 08:55:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VEtO6q004465 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:55:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7CC921E601E5; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:51:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C5E1E601E0 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:51:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A29F6A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 9:44:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14314199 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:44:46 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law9-f109.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.109]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VEijv29294 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:44:45 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 06:44:40 -0800 Received: from 24.173.85.38 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:44:40 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.173.85.38] X-Originating-Email: [toalanne@hotmail.com] From: "Anne Toal" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: aurora last night Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:44:40 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Oct 2003 14:44:40.0360 (UTC) FILETIME=[83B1AA80:01C39FBD] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://science.nasa.gov/spaceweather/aurora/images2003/30oct03b/dmsp1.jpg Shows pretty well that Maine was right under a bright band. -aht _________________________________________________________________ Add MSN 8 Internet Software to your current Internet access and enjoy patented spam control and more. Get two months FREE! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/byoa From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 09:05:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VF5v6q004536 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:05:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 58C2A1E602D2; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:02:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AE3C1E601E0 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:02:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A29FD7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 9:55:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14315250 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:55:18 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VEtIv31827 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:55:18 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9VEtI8b013153 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:55:18 -0500 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9VEtIfE015247 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:55:18 -0500 Message-ID: <0fe601c39fbe$ffe69510$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "Wordslurs" Subject: Ok... who's wearing what? Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:55:17 -0500 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I have on my new super100 tuxedo, with top hat, gloves, scarf and cane. I am Smilin'!!! 'Alan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 09:09:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VF9L6q004580 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:09:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 43AE81E601E5; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:05:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 138071E601E0 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:05:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A29FE2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 9:58:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14315485 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:58:42 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VEwgv32592 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:58:42 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9VEwg8b013268 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:58:42 -0500 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9VEwgfC016286 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:58:42 -0500 Message-ID: <103401c39fbf$79905d60$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <4.2.2.20031030185033.00a5faf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1234028890.1067551983@TWild.uri.edu> Subject: Re: Re: HB Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:58:42 -0500 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU HB! Adam!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Wild" To: Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 10:13 PM Subject: Re: HB > > AND List Honey. > > > > > > Betty > > > Happy Birthday, Adam! > > Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 09:12:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VFCo6q004596 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:12:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 96C7F1E602D3; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:09:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D241E601E5 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:09:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2A00A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:02:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14315729 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:02:12 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law9-f75.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.75]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VF2Bv00868 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:02:11 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 07:02:06 -0800 Received: from 24.173.85.38 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:02:05 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.173.85.38] X-Originating-Email: [toalanne@hotmail.com] From: "Anne Toal" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: HB Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:02:05 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Oct 2003 15:02:06.0204 (UTC) FILETIME=[F310CBC0:01C39FBF] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Likewise from me! -a >From: Evelyn Duncan >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: HB >Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:13:09 EST > >Happy Birthday, Theo! > >Happy Birthday, Adam! > >Evelyn Duncan >brandykitt@aol.com >Mongo only pawn in game of life. _________________________________________________________________ Want to check if your PC is virus-infected? Get a FREE computer virus scan online from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 09:15:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VFFq6q004607 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:15:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DB30C1E602D2; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:12:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8AB01E601E5 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:12:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001C8926@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:05:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14315951 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:05:10 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VF53v01290 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:05:07 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:04:58 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77648@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Q of Hours Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:04:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Terry Wild [mailto:twild@URI.EDU] >Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 10:15 PM >So Amy, what did you make with the butternut? > >I finally found a recipe for soup and tried it today. Yum, very sage >tasting. I added more squash for a creamier soup. Alan thinks some >chopped ham would round it out. Gallagher: "People say soup is good food. Soup is NOT food. Soup is what you find in the bottom of the dishwasher when it's done running." From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 09:31:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VFVi6q004716 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:31:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4C2CE1E60142; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:28:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A7C11E6013F for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:28:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2A0BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:21:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14317505 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:21:05 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VFL5v05468 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:21:05 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:21:00 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7764B@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Sound still no good Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:20:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Anne Toal [mailto:toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM] >Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 9:36 AM >I'd definitely start playing the angle that "the only way to fix this >problem is to get a new computer!" :-) > >FWIW, when I built my latest computer this summer, I put in an Asus >motherboard with an onboard Dolby sound chipset. >http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socketa/a7n8x-d/overview.htm > >Ditched my Soundblaster card and never looked back! Ditch a SB? huh? I've got an Audigy Platinum 2 (6.1) and it's sweet. I'm not certain I can justify putting it aside and moving up to the NX (see http://www.soundblaster.com), but what I've got is pretty nice - I've got small speakers positioned within the office and the game playing is sweet. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 09:43:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VFhR6q004827 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:43:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 06F331E601E5; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:39:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC8671E601E0 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:39:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2A14D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:32:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14317728 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:32:44 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VFMiv05872 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:22:44 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9VFM9KE007887 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:22:11 -0500 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:22:43 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ok... who's wearing what? In-Reply-To: <0fe601c39fbe$ffe69510$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Message-ID: References: <0fe601c39fbe$ffe69510$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 31 Oct 2003, Alan Wild wrote: >I have on my new super100 tuxedo, with top hat, gloves, scarf and cane. I >am Smilin'!!! Me - denim. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 10:35:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VGZu6q005381 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:35:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 421D31E601EF; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:32:19 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FDA01E60148 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:32:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001C8C25@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 11:25:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14324173 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 11:25:17 -0500 Received: from firecrest.mail.pas.earthlink.net (firecrest.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.247]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VGPHv22781 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 11:25:17 -0500 Received: from sdn-ap-021txhousp0443.dialsprint.net ([65.177.17.189] helo=doris) by firecrest.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AFc5M-0007aA-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:25:16 -0800 Message-ID: <000b01c39fcb$93003e30$bd11b141@doris> Reply-To: "Doris Smith" From: "Doris Smith" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3FA11483.8289.1008617@localhost> Subject: Re: Re: IMFTATL - error message after installing updates and rebooting Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:24:46 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-ELNK-Trace: 0f572b91323e03d8e9ef466adc09f07e7e972de0d01da940bce995e8142e54dd3eff454301ad16ef350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hello Mem! Yes, the sound has worked very well for years. I have not been able to trace the cause, and of course, am unable to fix it even with all of the good suggestions given by Wordslers. No new programs have been installed lately either. Doris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael E. Macmillan" To: Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 5:39 PM Subject: Re: IMFTATL - error message after installing updates and rebooting > On 30 Oct 2003 at 15:50, Doris Smith wrote: > > > Do you two "gooroos" have any idea about my sound??? > > Observation from a non-gooroo: It wasn't clear to me from your > first message whether the sound had ever worked properly. Is this a > problem that began after the sound system had been working > correctly for some time or is it a problem you've had since > installing the machine? Please don't take this the wrong way, but > are you absolutely certain you have the speakers plugged in > correctly? Are they powered speakers? > > mem From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 10:57:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VGvt6q005539 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:57:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 82CB81E602D6; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:54:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5458B1E602D3 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:54:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001C8CE4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 11:47:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14326226 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 11:47:16 -0500 Received: from firecrest.mail.pas.earthlink.net (firecrest.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.247]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VGlEv28032 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 11:47:14 -0500 Received: from sdn-ap-021txhousp0443.dialsprint.net ([65.177.17.189] helo=doris) by firecrest.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AFcQb-0005Wl-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:47:14 -0800 Message-ID: <001701c39fce$a44b6630$bd11b141@doris> Reply-To: "Doris Smith" From: "Doris Smith" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: Sound still no good Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:47:14 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-ELNK-Trace: 0f572b91323e03d8e9ef466adc09f07e7e972de0d01da9405e68420f7cdea84448df77d661abf31a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU That is exactly what I'm thinking, too. Either that or use my laptop (a Dell Inspiron 600M) as my main computer. I don't like that idea because when I bought it I chose a thin one (therefore not a lot of empty ports and no floppy drives - although I did get a flash memory key) so it would be lightweight when I take it with me on my genealogy haunts. Doris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Toal" To: Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 8:36 AM Subject: Re: Sound still no good > I'd definitely start playing the angle that "the only way to fix this > problem is to get a new computer!" :-) > > FWIW, when I built my latest computer this summer, I put in an Asus > motherboard with an onboard Dolby sound chipset. > http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socketa/a7n8x-d/overview.htm > > Ditched my Soundblaster card and never looked back! > > -aht > > _________________________________________________________________ > Fretting that your Hotmail account may expire because you forgot to sign in > enough? Get Hotmail Extra Storage today! > http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 11:07:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VH7b6q005654 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 11:07:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A02C11E60128; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 11:03:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F83B1E601F0 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 11:03:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001C8D46@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 11:56:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14327208 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 11:56:58 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VGuvv30694 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 11:56:57 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9VGufeO005088 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:56:41 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9VGuea2005070 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:56:41 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031031085306.00a506c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:53:35 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: the aurora In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031030212353.043b8560@mail.istori.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031030211419.00b9ccb8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:31 PM 10/30/2003 -0800, you wrote: >bonniev writes, > >>And before Survivor started I got to see the aurora. At last. It was red >>and all over the sky. Quite nice. > >Here's a pretty shot from Alaska: . > >Pete Wow! Do you think they will still be there in May when I go? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 11:19:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VHJ76q005738 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 11:19:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DFECE1E602D5; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 11:15:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D5501E602D4 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 11:15:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001C8D7B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:08:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14328514 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:08:21 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VH8Lv01959 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:08:21 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9VH8JeO020634 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:08:19 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9VH8Ia2020617 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:08:19 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031031090331.00a606d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:05:10 -0800 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Fwd: Tourbus - 30 Oct 03 - Shoot the Messenger / OS X Bugs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From the TourBus >--------------------------------------------------------------- >Shoot the Messenger >Audience: Windows NT, 2000, XP, and 2003 users in all countries >--------------------------------------------------------------- > >Back in the days of mainframe computing, and *WAY* before the days of >instant messaging as we know it, the folks at computer centers needed >a way to send emergency text messages to everyone announcing things >like > > THE PRINT CENTER CLOSES IN 15 MINUTES! PLEASE PICK UP YOUR PRINT > JOBS IMMEDIATELY. > >or > > SQUADRONS OF SQUIRRELS SPOTTED IN THE VICINITY OF THE SEEBECK > COMPUTER CENTER! YOU WOULD BE WISE TO IMMEDIATELY SAVE YOUR WORK > AS WE WILL SOON BE PLUNGED INTO SQUIRREL-INDUCED DARKNESS. > >So, built into mainframe operating systems like VM/CMS and UNIX are >commands like TELL and WRITE that let you broadcast a simple text >message to a specific user or group of users. [And you get special >karma points if you ever used these commands to spook newbies.] > >Windows has a similar, built-in feature called the "Windows Messenger >Service." Now this is NOT to be confused with "Microsoft Messenger" >or "MSN Messenger," Microsoft's free instant messaging program (a la >AOL Instant Messenger, ICQ, or IRC.) *WINDOWS* Messenger Service is a >way for mainframe and network administrators to broadcast an emergency >text message to all users. > >The Windows Messenger Service is, by default, enabled in Windows NT, >Windows 2000, Windows XP (Home and Professional), and Windows 2003. > >And it's about as useless as giving a job application to my brother. > >The problem is that the Windows Messenger Service can be used by >unscrupulous spammers to send you an untraceable pop-up message even >if your Internet Explorer is closed. And, even worse, a hacker can >use the Windows Messenger Service to break into your computer and do >all sort of nasty things "including installing programs, viewing, >changing or deleting data, or creating new accounts with full >privileges." [Source: Microsoft Security Bulletin MS03-043 at >http://tinyurl.com/r2j3] > >By the way, you DON'T need to worry about the Windows Messenger >Service if have a Mac, a *nix box, Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows >98SE, or Windows ME. BUT, if you have Windows NT, Windows 2000, >Windows XP, and Windows 2003, you need to turn this little bugger off. >Now. > >You could manually disable the Windows Messenger Service if you want >-- the University of Virginia's Information Technology and >Communications department shows you how to disable it at >http://www.itc.virginia.edu/desktop/docs/messagepopup/ -- but if I >were you I'd just hop on over to > > http://grc.com/stm/shootthemessenger.htm > >and download the free "Shoot the Messenger" program. I *HIGHLY* >recommend this program for four reasons: > > 1. It's free. Free is good. > > 2. The Shoot the Messenger program is only 22 kilobytes in size. > That's so small it's downright silly. You can download this > program literally faster than you can read this sentence, even > on the slowest modem connection on earth. > > 3. Shoot the Messenger was created by Steve Gibson at Gibson > Research, the guy behind ShieldsUp and SpinRite. Steve is > probably one of the most trusted and respected computer gurus > on the planet. Having Steve Gibson [through his Shoot the > Messenger program] disable the Windows Messenger Service for > you is like having Lance Armstrong fix your bike or Michael > Schumaker fix your car. > > 4. Downloading and running Shoot the Messenger keeps you from > having to get your hands dirty by going to Start > Settings > > Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Services > Messenger ... > blah blah blah. > >Once you have downloaded Shoot the Messenger, just double-click on the >shootthemessenger.exe icon. A little window appears telling you if >the Windows Messenger Service is running on your computer. If it is, >just click on the "Disable Messenger" button and then click on "Exit." > >That's it. The Windows Messenger Service is now disabled, and your >computer is now protected from both the spammers and the hackers who >have been using the Windows Messenger Service to do nasty things to >other people's computers. > >Oh, and you can delete shootthemessenger.exe if you want. You don't >need it any more. :) > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >Nightmare of the Jaguar >Audience: Mac users in all countries, especially if you use or plan to >use OS-X >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >It looks like the security problems that have plagued the Windows >community have now invaded the Mac community as well. > >According to a report at CNET's News.com, > > Cambridge, Mass.-based @Stake released three advisories on > Tuesday. The first details "systemic" flaws in the way OS X > handles file and directory permissions; the second notes a > kernel-level vulnerability that does not affect default > installations of the operating system; and the third involves a > buffer-overflow condition that may be remotely exploitable. > > [Source: http://news.com.com/2100-1016-5098688.html] > >The solution to all three problems seems to be to upgrade to Mac OS X >10.3 (a.k.a. "Panther.") for US$129.00. > >Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. If it is any consolation, John >Paczkowski at Good Morning Silicon Valley adds that > > some in the Mac community are questioning the integrity of the > advisory. After all, @stake is a consulting company that works > closely with Microsoft. And it did recently dismiss one of its > marquee security researchers for calling "the ubiquity of > Microsoft software a hazard to the economy and to national > security" > > [Source: http://tinyurl.com/swsx ] > >Of course, you could always just upgrade to Windows XP and avoid this >mess altogether. :P > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >RSVP >Audience: Mac and PC users in all countries who have the Flash player >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Our last stop comes to us courtesy of the Lifetime television network, >the folks behind blockbuster movies of the week like "Voices from >within: Where's my baby?," "Seduced by madness: what did you do to my >baby?," and [while the first two are made up, this next one is >actually a real movie title] "Baby Monitor: Sound of Fear." [I am >*SO* Tivo-ing that!] > >If you have the free Flash player installed on your computer and are >looking for a really cool, addictive game to swallow up what little >free time you actually have, point your Web browser to > > http://www.lifetimetv.com/games/rsvp/index.html > >and click on "Play Now." This loads a Flash game called "RSVP" in a >new pop-up window, so make sure to disable your pop-up blocker. > >The game is super simple to play. In fact, here are the instructions: > > Arrange "guests" around the game-board table. Partygoers are > happy when the colors on their card match the colors on either > side of them. > > To get to the next table, all the guests at your party must be > happy. You can deal yourself three new cards, but this will cost > you five points. You can deal new cards a maximum of four times. > > Once you have placed "guests" at the table, you are free to move > them around to make more matches. > >Yeah, I know -- that sounds difficult. It really isn't. Trust me. > >+--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > >That's it for today. Have a safe and happy weekend, and we'll talk >again soon. > >=====================[ Tourbus Rider Information ]=================== > The Internet Tourbus - U.S. Library of Congress ISSN #1094-2238 > Copyright 1995-2003, Rankin & Crispen - All rights reserved > > Subscribe, Signoff, Archives, Free Stuff and More at the > Tourbus Website - http://www.TOURBUS.com >==================================================================== > .~~~. )) > (\__/) .' ) )) Patrick Douglas Crispen > /o o \/ .~ >{o_, \ { crispen@netsquirrel.com > / , , ) \ http://www.netsquirrel.com/ > `~ -' \ } )) AOL Instant Messenger: Squirrel2K > _( ( )_.' >---..{____} Warning: squirrels. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 11:32:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VHWX6q005852 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 11:32:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 739DD1E602D4; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 11:28:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 455201E601F0 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 11:28:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2A595@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:21:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14329578 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:21:54 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VHLrv04876 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:21:53 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2003103117214601400lbaf2e>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:21:46 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031031091034.03e87410@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:21:38 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: the aurora In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031031085306.00a506c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031030212353.043b8560@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031030211419.00b9ccb8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark writes, >Wow! Do you think they will still be there in May when I go? No clue. Hey, you can sign up for email space weather alerts: And here's the Alaska forecast page to check when you go there: And the link to the Spaceweather.com aurora gallery for this month: Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 11:44:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VHim6q005923 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 11:44:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5F5861E601F0; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 11:41:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DFF41E6014A for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 11:41:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2A64E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:34:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14331353 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:34:08 -0500 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VHY8v09011 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:34:08 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.b6.244d5183 (3932) for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:33:54 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:33:54 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Fwd: Tourbus - 30 Oct 03 - Shoot the Messenger / OS X Bugs To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/31/2003 11:08:52 AM Central Standard Time, bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU writes: << >The problem is that the Windows Messenger Service can be used by >unscrupulous spammers to send you an untraceable pop-up message even >if your Internet Explorer is closed. >> Usually from people who tell you that the WMS is dangerous and will sell you a program to turn it off. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Mongo only pawn in game of life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 11:59:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VHx86q005992 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 11:59:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AFADC1E602D8; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 11:55:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 789B31E602D7 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 11:55:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2A6C4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:48:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14332412 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:48:29 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law9-f20.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VHmSv11886 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:48:28 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:48:23 -0800 Received: from 24.173.85.38 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:48:23 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.173.85.38] X-Originating-Email: [toalanne@hotmail.com] From: "Anne Toal" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Sound still no good Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 11:48:23 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Oct 2003 17:48:23.0135 (UTC) FILETIME=[2DC7A6F0:01C39FD7] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Ditch a SB? huh? I've got an Audigy Platinum 2 (6.1) and it's sweet. On the last mobo I had a SB 5.1 Gamer, and no complaints whatsoever. I know a couple of guys who have Audigys and they do truly make awesome sound, especially with Klipsch gaming speakers. So congrats on a superb sound setup, but I'm still extremely pleased with my Asus. It actually puts out better sound than my speakers have the ability to play. Maybe someday I'll get a speaker setup with a digital input... :-) It's a money pit, innit? -a _________________________________________________________________ Enjoy MSN 8 patented spam control and more with MSN 8 Dial-up Internet Service. Try it FREE for one month! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 12:00:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VI0W6q005997 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:00:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9D29D1E602D6; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 11:56:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E8651E602D4 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 11:56:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2A6B8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:49:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14332450 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:49:53 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law9-f114.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.114]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VHnqv12104 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:49:52 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:49:47 -0800 Received: from 24.173.85.38 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:49:46 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.173.85.38] X-Originating-Email: [toalanne@hotmail.com] From: "Anne Toal" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: IMFTATL - error message after installing updates and rebooting Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 11:49:46 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Oct 2003 17:49:47.0221 (UTC) FILETIME=[5FE62850:01C39FD7] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Not trying to be too much of a troublemaker here....but ever have sound problems with your Macintosh? :-) -aht _________________________________________________________________ Want to check if your PC is virus-infected? Get a FREE computer virus scan online from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 12:15:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VIFi6q006133 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:15:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BAFDF1E602D6; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:12:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C7EF1E602D4 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:12:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2A72A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:05:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14333191 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:05:05 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VI54i14211 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:05:04 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:04:59 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77656@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Sound still no good Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:04:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Anne Toal [mailto:toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM] >Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 12:48 PM >>Ditch a SB? huh? I've got an Audigy Platinum 2 (6.1) and it's sweet. > >On the last mobo I had a SB 5.1 Gamer, and no complaints >whatsoever. I know >a couple of guys who have Audigys and they do truly make awesome sound, >especially with Klipsch gaming speakers. So congrats on a superb sound >setup, but I'm still extremely pleased with my Asus. It >actually puts out >better sound than my speakers have the ability to play. Maybe >someday I'll >get a speaker setup with a digital input... :-) It's a money >pit, innit? It can be a money pit, but when we are given the Christmas family we "adopt", we create a Frankenstein PC so the kids aren't left out of the have|(not) world. I don't think they care about the quality of the parts they are getting (but they are no more than one or two levels below peak) and it's an easy way to get rid of old cards. (we pawn some games off as well) My kid sister lives on a low, fixed income and has four girls (8,10,12,14) and she's got a PC which barely runs win95, but enough for everyone to remain exposed. It may be time for Santa to build a new one. I discovered I'm really at 1.2T, so it's not going to kill me to reduce a HD to be at 1T. Memory is so cheap you could spread it on your cereal for breakfast, and thanks to an Action Pack subscription (normally at $300, I got a coupon in June to make it $99), the prices for Windows XP Pro, Office XP, etc. are more than affordable. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 12:16:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VIGa6q006137 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:16:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7D86C1E602D7; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:12:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B05B1E602D6 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:12:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2A721@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:05:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14333228 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:05:56 -0500 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VI5ui14322 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:05:56 -0500 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80F9A75D; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:05:56 -0500 (EST) From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "Words-l" Subject: FW: Good news on the MRI scan. Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:05:57 -0500 Message-ID: <000101c39fd9$a2040d40$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 (Highest) X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: High X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Good news for Heide. I thought I would share some good news. Alec >>Heide: >> >>I saw your scan from 10/25. There is no evidence of any >>residual or recurrent tumor (good) alec ------------ plotkina@isc.upenn.edu Alec D. Plotkin-IT Support Specialist http://pobox.upenn.edu/~plotkina/ University of Pennsylvania ISC-Technology Support Services/ULAR 220 South 40th Street-Suite 220 Philadelphia, PA 19104-3512 Phone:215-898-2321 Fax: 215-573-9998 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 12:22:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VIMU6q006193 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:22:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 33B011E601F7; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:18:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D15D1E6014D for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:18:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2A752@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:11:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14333089 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:11:49 -0500 Received: from web11406.mail.yahoo.com (web11406.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.236]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9VI1mi13850 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:01:48 -0500 Received: from [67.65.197.70] by web11406.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:01:34 PST Message-ID: <20031031180134.22796.qmail@web11406.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:01:34 -0800 (PST) From: Doris Markland Subject: Greetings from San Antonio To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Just thought I should let you know that I was in the same city as President Bush yesterday but that our paths did not cross. Actually he was out at Lackland AFB, altho I heard he would be staying downtown at the Marriott . . which I could see from the window of my grandson's new office, which we had gone to see. It's right on the Riverwalk. Today, while the kids are at work we are going to drive up around Fredricksburg and to a winery and maybe to some outlet stores, etc. Tonight we will watch as our 2-year old great grandson goes about the neighborhood in an elephant costume. Right now, I realize, I am somewhere between Karen and aht and also fairly close to the Harwoods, altho I'll be closer to them in a few days when we move in closer to Houston. But tomorrow . . . the Nebraska/ Texas game . . . in Austin. - D. M. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 12:22:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VIMf6q006203 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:22:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8F0041E601F7; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:19:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C75BE1E6014D for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:19:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2A739@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:11:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14333538 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:11:57 -0500 Received: from imo-m01.mx.aol.com (imo-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.4]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VIBvi15128 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:11:57 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.20.1b6eb76f (16930) for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:11:46 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <20.1b6eb76f.2cd3ffe2@aol.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:11:46 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] FW: Good news on the MRI scan. To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/31/2003 12:06:43 PM Central Standard Time, plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU writes: << Good news for Heide. I thought I would share some good news. >> Congratulations! Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Winston Zeddemore: "If there's a steady paycheck in it, I'll believe anything you say." From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 12:44:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VIip6q006455 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:44:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 523641E60150; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:41:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 219D11E6014F for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:41:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2A884@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:34:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14336318 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:34:11 -0500 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9VIYBi20860 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:34:11 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:34:10 PST Message-ID: <20031031183410.83614.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:34:10 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Fwd: Tourbus - 30 Oct 03 - Shoot the Messenger / OS X Bugs To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > Usually from people who tell you that the WMS is > dangerous and > will sell you a program to turn it off. Why, Evelyn! How cynical (and perceptive) of you. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 12:49:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VInK6q006489 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:49:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3D1DB1E60150; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:45:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09A291E6014F for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:45:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2A8A5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:38:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14336723 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:38:40 -0500 Received: from web20516.mail.yahoo.com (web20516.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.232.185]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9VIcei21799 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:38:40 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20516.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:38:39 PST Message-ID: <20031031183839.36488.qmail@web20516.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:38:39 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Greetings from San Antonio To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031031180134.22796.qmail@web11406.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Right now, I realize, I am somewhere between Karen > and aht and also fairly close to the Harwoods, altho > I'll be closer to them in a few days when we move in > closer to Houston. But tomorrow . . . the Nebraska/ > Texas game . . . in Austin. Wave to the Alamo for me, and pull Nebraska through this game, please. I'm glad you're enjoying everything, and wish I could see the little elephant. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 12:51:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VIpQ6q006511 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:51:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3D4AA1E60154; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:47:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 098181E60150 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:47:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2A8C7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:40:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14336899 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:40:46 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VIeki22300 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:40:46 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9VIejW1021982 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:40:45 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9VIeiWq021968 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:40:44 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031031103657.00a741b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:37:39 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: FW: Good news on the MRI scan. In-Reply-To: <000101c39fd9$a2040d40$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fantastic!! That is wonderful news, Alec. What a relief for all of you. Betty At 01:05 PM 10/31/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Good news for Heide. I thought I would share some good news. > >Alec > > >>Heide: > >> > >>I saw your scan from 10/25. There is no evidence of any > >>residual or recurrent tumor (good) > >alec > > ------------ >plotkina@isc.upenn.edu >Alec D. Plotkin-IT Support Specialist >http://pobox.upenn.edu/~plotkina/ >University of Pennsylvania >ISC-Technology Support Services/ULAR >220 South 40th Street-Suite 220 >Philadelphia, PA 19104-3512 >Phone:215-898-2321 >Fax: 215-573-9998 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 12:51:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VIpq6q006514 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:51:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6B75F1E602D5; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:48:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8391E60154 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:48:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2A8D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:41:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14336919 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:41:12 -0500 Received: from web20516.mail.yahoo.com (web20516.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.232.185]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9VIfCi22398 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:41:12 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20516.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:41:12 PST Message-ID: <20031031184112.37002.qmail@web20516.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:41:12 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: FW: Good news on the MRI scan. To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <000101c39fd9$a2040d40$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Alec D. Plotkin" wrote: > Good news for Heide. I thought I would share some > good news. > > Alec > > >>Heide: > >> > >>I saw your scan from 10/25. There is no evidence > of any > >>residual or recurrent tumor (good) To God or Resident: Thank you. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 12:53:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VIrl6q006554 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:53:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7D5651E602D8; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:50:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A90D1E602D6 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:50:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001C92DD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:43:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14337018 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:43:07 -0500 Received: from web20515.mail.yahoo.com (web20515.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.232.184]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9VIh7i22740 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:43:07 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20515.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:43:07 PST Message-ID: <20031031184307.7096.qmail@web20515.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:43:07 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: the aurora To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031031085306.00a506c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Wow! Do you think they will still be there in May > when I go? By all means. Let them know when you'll arrive. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 12:58:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VIwD6q006635 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:58:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4AAE81E602D7; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:54:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 174F91E602D6 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:54:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001C9351@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:47:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14337397 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:47:33 -0500 Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (imo-r05.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VIlXa23825 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:47:33 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.4f.363e94b7 (3932) for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:47:08 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <4f.363e94b7.2cd4082c@aol.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:47:08 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Fwd: Tourbus - 30 Oct 03 - Shoot the Messenger / OS X Bugs To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/31/2003 12:34:36 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > Usually from people who tell you that the WMS is > dangerous and > will sell you a program to turn it off. Why, Evelyn! How cynical (and perceptive) of you. >> Those were the messages I got when I first got this computer, before I learned how to turn WMS off. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Winston Zeddemore: "If there's a steady paycheck in it, I'll believe anything you say." From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 13:14:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VJEc6q006783 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:14:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 246631E602DB; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:11:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EADAE1E602DA for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:10:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2A9B7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:03:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14338963 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:03:58 -0500 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VJ3wa27649 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:03:58 -0500 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34A92746 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:03:58 -0500 (EST) From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: cable Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:03:58 -0500 Message-ID: <001201c39fe1$bd5db980$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <165.270e0579.2cd30bb9@aol.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id h9VJ3wa27650 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ><< >The COMCAST person will probably get a raise. >>> > >I've never dealt with Comcast. The Cox people were >very nice, especially when dealing with the apartment >manager who swore that there would not be an outside >cable going to our apartment. Part of the cable ended >up on the outside of our apartment. > Comcast, when pushed is a good cable company. Once pushed, they give credits like crazy. We have them, as they are the big cable company in Philly. They were founded in Philly. They also just acquired AT&T cable. www.comcast.com alec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 13:22:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VJMK6q006825 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:22:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7009D1E602D5; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:18:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32D9E1E601F4 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:18:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2A9F8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:11:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14339620 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:11:40 -0500 Received: from maple.vaxer.net (root@maple.vaxer.net [66.199.186.132]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VJBea29378 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:11:40 -0500 Received: from maple.vaxer.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maple.vaxer.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9VJALTX014926 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 11:11:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (sylvar@localhost) by maple.vaxer.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id h9VJAKWs014596 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 11:10:21 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: maple.vaxer.net: sylvar owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 11:10:20 -0800 (PST) From: Ben Ostrowsky To: The usual gang of meebers Subject: Re: FW: Good news on the MRI scan. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >>I saw your scan from 10/25. There is no evidence of any > >>residual or recurrent tumor (good) Hurrah!! Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 13:35:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VJZG6q006952 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:35:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3E25D1E60154; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:31:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08FA41E60153 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:31:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2AA88@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:24:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14340992 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:24:36 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VJOaa32698 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:24:36 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003103119242901500qbs0fe>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:24:30 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031031104228.039e2e00@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 11:24:21 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Sound still no good In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77656@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton writes, >the prices for Windows XP Pro, Office XP, etc. are more than affordable. The non-geek-oriented Linux installations are getting amazingly good. Knoppix is a great way to demo one without installing anything on your hard drive -- it boots and runs off the CD, and it's free and very full-featured: . Note that they've got a BitTorrent download link there. My friends who don't mind being pirates are all having a blast downloading movies via BT. I've used it just once, to download Knoppix. It's nifty because it does a distributed download -- as your computer downloads chunks of the file, it also starts doing p2p uploads of its chunks to other people who are downloading (and vice versa, your download is coming p2p from other people too). The result is that you can distribute huge files without killing a central download server. for more info. BT is optional, though -- you can download Knoppix the usual way, and it's a pretty nifty thing to check out. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 13:40:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VJe76q006998 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:40:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2D4921E60154; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:36:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECC041E60153 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:36:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2AAD0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:29:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14341440 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:29:27 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VJTRa01452 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:29:27 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:29:21 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7765E@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Good news on the MRI scan. Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:29:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Alec D. Plotkin [mailto:plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU] >Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 1:06 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: FW: Good news on the MRI scan. >Importance: High > > >Good news for Heide. I thought I would share some good news. > >Alec > >>>Heide: >>> >>>I saw your scan from 10/25. There is no evidence of any >>>residual or recurrent tumor (good) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There can never be too much good news!!!" What a way to start off a weekend. Time for a toast, and if you don't drink alcohol, juice or tea is fine. Pardon the associative memory... No evidence reminds me of Dizzy Dean when hit by a brushback pitch at a press conference: "They examined my head and found nothing." From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 13:56:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VJuu6q007201 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:56:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 86B2B1E60157; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:53:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 537111E60153 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:53:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2AB58@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:46:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14342817 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:46:15 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VJkFa05338 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:46:15 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9VJkE2f021302 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 11:46:14 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9VJkDJC021271 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 11:46:14 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031031114250.00a684f0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 11:43:08 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: the aurora In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031031091034.03e87410@mail.istori.com> References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031031085306.00a506c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031030212353.043b8560@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031030211419.00b9ccb8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:21 AM 10/31/2003 -0800, you wrote: >Betty Clark writes, > >>Wow! Do you think they will still be there in May when I go? > >No clue. > >Hey, you can sign up for email space weather alerts: > > >And here's the Alaska forecast page to check when you go there: > > >And the link to the Spaceweather.com aurora gallery for this month: > > >Pete Thanks, Pete! You're the best. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 14:32:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VKW36q007536 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:32:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C4C9C1E602D6; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:28:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 825491E602D5 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:28:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2AC45@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:21:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14345033 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:21:23 -0500 Received: from firecrest.mail.pas.earthlink.net (firecrest.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.247]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VKLMa10434 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:21:22 -0500 Received: from sdn-ap-021txhousp0093.dialsprint.net ([65.177.16.93] helo=doris) by firecrest.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AFfln-00054M-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:21:20 -0800 Message-ID: <008201c39fec$8d3bca70$bd11b141@doris> Reply-To: "Doris Smith" From: "Doris Smith" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031031090331.00a606d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: Fwd: Tourbus - 30 Oct 03 - Shoot the Messenger / OS X Bugs Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:21:20 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-ELNK-Trace: 0f572b91323e03d8e9ef466adc09f07e7e972de0d01da9403ba6d021abbaa6e634cde068cb76f90f350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thanks, Betty -- interesting article, especially since I'm having so much trouble with my PC and earlier this week I was working on my husband's Mac - and I'm just a little old lady in tennis shoes (actually no shoes at the moment) who researches dead people. Doris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Clark" To: Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 11:05 AM Subject: Fwd: Tourbus - 30 Oct 03 - Shoot the Messenger / OS X Bugs > From the TourBus > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------- > >Shoot the Messenger > >Audience: Windows NT, 2000, XP, and 2003 users in all countries > >--------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >Back in the days of mainframe computing, and *WAY* before the days of > >instant messaging as we know it, the folks at computer centers needed > >a way to send emergency text messages to everyone announcing things > >like > > > > THE PRINT CENTER CLOSES IN 15 MINUTES! PLEASE PICK UP YOUR PRINT > > JOBS IMMEDIATELY. > > > >or > > > > SQUADRONS OF SQUIRRELS SPOTTED IN THE VICINITY OF THE SEEBECK > > COMPUTER CENTER! YOU WOULD BE WISE TO IMMEDIATELY SAVE YOUR WORK > > AS WE WILL SOON BE PLUNGED INTO SQUIRREL-INDUCED DARKNESS. > > > >So, built into mainframe operating systems like VM/CMS and UNIX are > >commands like TELL and WRITE that let you broadcast a simple text > >message to a specific user or group of users. [And you get special > >karma points if you ever used these commands to spook newbies.] > > > >Windows has a similar, built-in feature called the "Windows Messenger > >Service." Now this is NOT to be confused with "Microsoft Messenger" > >or "MSN Messenger," Microsoft's free instant messaging program (a la > >AOL Instant Messenger, ICQ, or IRC.) *WINDOWS* Messenger Service is a > >way for mainframe and network administrators to broadcast an emergency > >text message to all users. > > > >The Windows Messenger Service is, by default, enabled in Windows NT, > >Windows 2000, Windows XP (Home and Professional), and Windows 2003. > > > >And it's about as useless as giving a job application to my brother. > > > >The problem is that the Windows Messenger Service can be used by > >unscrupulous spammers to send you an untraceable pop-up message even > >if your Internet Explorer is closed. And, even worse, a hacker can > >use the Windows Messenger Service to break into your computer and do > >all sort of nasty things "including installing programs, viewing, > >changing or deleting data, or creating new accounts with full > >privileges." [Source: Microsoft Security Bulletin MS03-043 at > >http://tinyurl.com/r2j3] > > > >By the way, you DON'T need to worry about the Windows Messenger > >Service if have a Mac, a *nix box, Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows > >98SE, or Windows ME. BUT, if you have Windows NT, Windows 2000, > >Windows XP, and Windows 2003, you need to turn this little bugger off. > >Now. > > > >You could manually disable the Windows Messenger Service if you want > >-- the University of Virginia's Information Technology and > >Communications department shows you how to disable it at > >http://www.itc.virginia.edu/desktop/docs/messagepopup/ -- but if I > >were you I'd just hop on over to > > > > http://grc.com/stm/shootthemessenger.htm > > > >and download the free "Shoot the Messenger" program. I *HIGHLY* > >recommend this program for four reasons: > > > > 1. It's free. Free is good. > > > > 2. The Shoot the Messenger program is only 22 kilobytes in size. > > That's so small it's downright silly. You can download this > > program literally faster than you can read this sentence, even > > on the slowest modem connection on earth. > > > > 3. Shoot the Messenger was created by Steve Gibson at Gibson > > Research, the guy behind ShieldsUp and SpinRite. Steve is > > probably one of the most trusted and respected computer gurus > > on the planet. Having Steve Gibson [through his Shoot the > > Messenger program] disable the Windows Messenger Service for > > you is like having Lance Armstrong fix your bike or Michael > > Schumaker fix your car. > > > > 4. Downloading and running Shoot the Messenger keeps you from > > having to get your hands dirty by going to Start > Settings > > > Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Services > Messenger ... > > blah blah blah. > > > >Once you have downloaded Shoot the Messenger, just double-click on the > >shootthemessenger.exe icon. A little window appears telling you if > >the Windows Messenger Service is running on your computer. If it is, > >just click on the "Disable Messenger" button and then click on "Exit." > > > >That's it. The Windows Messenger Service is now disabled, and your > >computer is now protected from both the spammers and the hackers who > >have been using the Windows Messenger Service to do nasty things to > >other people's computers. > > > >Oh, and you can delete shootthemessenger.exe if you want. You don't > >need it any more. :) > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Nightmare of the Jaguar > >Audience: Mac users in all countries, especially if you use or plan to > >use OS-X > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >It looks like the security problems that have plagued the Windows > >community have now invaded the Mac community as well. > > > >According to a report at CNET's News.com, > > > > Cambridge, Mass.-based @Stake released three advisories on > > Tuesday. The first details "systemic" flaws in the way OS X > > handles file and directory permissions; the second notes a > > kernel-level vulnerability that does not affect default > > installations of the operating system; and the third involves a > > buffer-overflow condition that may be remotely exploitable. > > > > [Source: http://news.com.com/2100-1016-5098688.html] > > > >The solution to all three problems seems to be to upgrade to Mac OS X > >10.3 (a.k.a. "Panther.") for US$129.00. > > > >Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. If it is any consolation, John > >Paczkowski at Good Morning Silicon Valley adds that > > > > some in the Mac community are questioning the integrity of the > > advisory. After all, @stake is a consulting company that works > > closely with Microsoft. And it did recently dismiss one of its > > marquee security researchers for calling "the ubiquity of > > Microsoft software a hazard to the economy and to national > > security" > > > > [Source: http://tinyurl.com/swsx ] > > > >Of course, you could always just upgrade to Windows XP and avoid this > >mess altogether. :P > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >RSVP > >Audience: Mac and PC users in all countries who have the Flash player > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >Our last stop comes to us courtesy of the Lifetime television network, > >the folks behind blockbuster movies of the week like "Voices from > >within: Where's my baby?," "Seduced by madness: what did you do to my > >baby?," and [while the first two are made up, this next one is > >actually a real movie title] "Baby Monitor: Sound of Fear." [I am > >*SO* Tivo-ing that!] > > > >If you have the free Flash player installed on your computer and are > >looking for a really cool, addictive game to swallow up what little > >free time you actually have, point your Web browser to > > > > http://www.lifetimetv.com/games/rsvp/index.html > > > >and click on "Play Now." This loads a Flash game called "RSVP" in a > >new pop-up window, so make sure to disable your pop-up blocker. > > > >The game is super simple to play. In fact, here are the instructions: > > > > Arrange "guests" around the game-board table. Partygoers are > > happy when the colors on their card match the colors on either > > side of them. > > > > To get to the next table, all the guests at your party must be > > happy. You can deal yourself three new cards, but this will cost > > you five points. You can deal new cards a maximum of four times. > > > > Once you have placed "guests" at the table, you are free to move > > them around to make more matches. > > > >Yeah, I know -- that sounds difficult. It really isn't. Trust me. > > > >+--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > > > >That's it for today. Have a safe and happy weekend, and we'll talk > >again soon. > > > >=====================[ Tourbus Rider Information ]=================== > > The Internet Tourbus - U.S. Library of Congress ISSN #1094-2238 > > Copyright 1995-2003, Rankin & Crispen - All rights reserved > > > > Subscribe, Signoff, Archives, Free Stuff and More at the > > Tourbus Website - http://www.TOURBUS.com > >==================================================================== > > .~~~. )) > > (\__/) .' ) )) Patrick Douglas Crispen > > /o o \/ .~ > >{o_, \ { crispen@netsquirrel.com > > / , , ) \ http://www.netsquirrel.com/ > > `~ -' \ } )) AOL Instant Messenger: Squirrel2K > > _( ( )_.' > >---..{____} Warning: squirrels. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 14:34:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VKYq6q007557 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:34:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1C6981E6015D; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:31:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFCF21E600BF for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:31:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001C9BFF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:24:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14345270 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:24:12 -0500 Received: from firecrest.mail.pas.earthlink.net (firecrest.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.247]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VKOBa10961 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:24:11 -0500 Received: from sdn-ap-021txhousp0093.dialsprint.net ([65.177.16.93] helo=doris) by firecrest.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AFfoY-0005lE-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:24:11 -0800 Message-ID: <008e01c39fec$f3570310$bd11b141@doris> Reply-To: "Doris Smith" From: "Doris Smith" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: IMFTATL - error message after installing updates and rebooting Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:24:12 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-ELNK-Trace: 0f572b91323e03d8e9ef466adc09f07e7e972de0d01da9408cbc426e067dd13d5b72778c4edd7254350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU No, but something ate the address book and email with family pictures that were waiting to be printed once the printer was set so it would work with the Mac. I know -- this wasn't necessarily meant as a message to me -- :-) Doris S > Not trying to be too much of a troublemaker here....but ever have sound > problems with your Macintosh? :-) > > -aht > > _________________________________________________________________ > Want to check if your PC is virus-infected? Get a FREE computer virus scan > online from McAfee. > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 14:37:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VKbj6q007574 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:37:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E9C941E602D6; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:34:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A430F1E6015D for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:34:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2ACB2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:27:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14345684 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:26:56 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VKQua11515 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:26:56 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9VKQd2f010566 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:26:39 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9VKQdJC010545 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:26:39 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031031122251.00a640b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:23:33 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Fwd: Tourbus - 30 Oct 03 - Shoot the Messenger / OS X Bugs In-Reply-To: <008201c39fec$8d3bca70$bd11b141@doris> References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031031090331.00a606d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU And we have missed both you and Nancy. Do you see dead people? :-) Betty At 02:21 PM 10/31/2003 -0600, you wrote: >Thanks, Betty -- interesting article, especially since I'm having so much >trouble with my PC and earlier this week I was working on my husband's Mac - >and I'm just a little old lady in tennis shoes (actually no shoes at the >moment) who researches dead people. > >Doris >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Betty Clark" >To: >Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 11:05 AM >Subject: Fwd: Tourbus - 30 Oct 03 - Shoot the Messenger / OS X Bugs > > > > From the TourBus > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------- > > >Shoot the Messenger > > >Audience: Windows NT, 2000, XP, and 2003 users in all countries > > >--------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > >Back in the days of mainframe computing, and *WAY* before the days of > > >instant messaging as we know it, the folks at computer centers needed > > >a way to send emergency text messages to everyone announcing things > > >like > > > > > > THE PRINT CENTER CLOSES IN 15 MINUTES! PLEASE PICK UP YOUR PRINT > > > JOBS IMMEDIATELY. > > > > > >or > > > > > > SQUADRONS OF SQUIRRELS SPOTTED IN THE VICINITY OF THE SEEBECK > > > COMPUTER CENTER! YOU WOULD BE WISE TO IMMEDIATELY SAVE YOUR WORK > > > AS WE WILL SOON BE PLUNGED INTO SQUIRREL-INDUCED DARKNESS. > > > > > >So, built into mainframe operating systems like VM/CMS and UNIX are > > >commands like TELL and WRITE that let you broadcast a simple text > > >message to a specific user or group of users. [And you get special > > >karma points if you ever used these commands to spook newbies.] > > > > > >Windows has a similar, built-in feature called the "Windows Messenger > > >Service." Now this is NOT to be confused with "Microsoft Messenger" > > >or "MSN Messenger," Microsoft's free instant messaging program (a la > > >AOL Instant Messenger, ICQ, or IRC.) *WINDOWS* Messenger Service is a > > >way for mainframe and network administrators to broadcast an emergency > > >text message to all users. > > > > > >The Windows Messenger Service is, by default, enabled in Windows NT, > > >Windows 2000, Windows XP (Home and Professional), and Windows 2003. > > > > > >And it's about as useless as giving a job application to my brother. > > > > > >The problem is that the Windows Messenger Service can be used by > > >unscrupulous spammers to send you an untraceable pop-up message even > > >if your Internet Explorer is closed. And, even worse, a hacker can > > >use the Windows Messenger Service to break into your computer and do > > >all sort of nasty things "including installing programs, viewing, > > >changing or deleting data, or creating new accounts with full > > >privileges." [Source: Microsoft Security Bulletin MS03-043 at > > >http://tinyurl.com/r2j3] > > > > > >By the way, you DON'T need to worry about the Windows Messenger > > >Service if have a Mac, a *nix box, Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows > > >98SE, or Windows ME. BUT, if you have Windows NT, Windows 2000, > > >Windows XP, and Windows 2003, you need to turn this little bugger off. > > >Now. > > > > > >You could manually disable the Windows Messenger Service if you want > > >-- the University of Virginia's Information Technology and > > >Communications department shows you how to disable it at > > >http://www.itc.virginia.edu/desktop/docs/messagepopup/ -- but if I > > >were you I'd just hop on over to > > > > > > http://grc.com/stm/shootthemessenger.htm > > > > > >and download the free "Shoot the Messenger" program. I *HIGHLY* > > >recommend this program for four reasons: > > > > > > 1. It's free. Free is good. > > > > > > 2. The Shoot the Messenger program is only 22 kilobytes in size. > > > That's so small it's downright silly. You can download this > > > program literally faster than you can read this sentence, even > > > on the slowest modem connection on earth. > > > > > > 3. Shoot the Messenger was created by Steve Gibson at Gibson > > > Research, the guy behind ShieldsUp and SpinRite. Steve is > > > probably one of the most trusted and respected computer gurus > > > on the planet. Having Steve Gibson [through his Shoot the > > > Messenger program] disable the Windows Messenger Service for > > > you is like having Lance Armstrong fix your bike or Michael > > > Schumaker fix your car. > > > > > > 4. Downloading and running Shoot the Messenger keeps you from > > > having to get your hands dirty by going to Start > Settings > > > > Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Services > Messenger ... > > > blah blah blah. > > > > > >Once you have downloaded Shoot the Messenger, just double-click on the > > >shootthemessenger.exe icon. A little window appears telling you if > > >the Windows Messenger Service is running on your computer. If it is, > > >just click on the "Disable Messenger" button and then click on "Exit." > > > > > >That's it. The Windows Messenger Service is now disabled, and your > > >computer is now protected from both the spammers and the hackers who > > >have been using the Windows Messenger Service to do nasty things to > > >other people's computers. > > > > > >Oh, and you can delete shootthemessenger.exe if you want. You don't > > >need it any more. :) > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >Nightmare of the Jaguar > > >Audience: Mac users in all countries, especially if you use or plan to > > >use OS-X > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > >It looks like the security problems that have plagued the Windows > > >community have now invaded the Mac community as well. > > > > > >According to a report at CNET's News.com, > > > > > > Cambridge, Mass.-based @Stake released three advisories on > > > Tuesday. The first details "systemic" flaws in the way OS X > > > handles file and directory permissions; the second notes a > > > kernel-level vulnerability that does not affect default > > > installations of the operating system; and the third involves a > > > buffer-overflow condition that may be remotely exploitable. > > > > > > [Source: http://news.com.com/2100-1016-5098688.html] > > > > > >The solution to all three problems seems to be to upgrade to Mac OS X > > >10.3 (a.k.a. "Panther.") for US$129.00. > > > > > >Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. If it is any consolation, John > > >Paczkowski at Good Morning Silicon Valley adds that > > > > > > some in the Mac community are questioning the integrity of the > > > advisory. After all, @stake is a consulting company that works > > > closely with Microsoft. And it did recently dismiss one of its > > > marquee security researchers for calling "the ubiquity of > > > Microsoft software a hazard to the economy and to national > > > security" > > > > > > [Source: http://tinyurl.com/swsx ] > > > > > >Of course, you could always just upgrade to Windows XP and avoid this > > >mess altogether. :P > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >RSVP > > >Audience: Mac and PC users in all countries who have the Flash player > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > >Our last stop comes to us courtesy of the Lifetime television network, > > >the folks behind blockbuster movies of the week like "Voices from > > >within: Where's my baby?," "Seduced by madness: what did you do to my > > >baby?," and [while the first two are made up, this next one is > > >actually a real movie title] "Baby Monitor: Sound of Fear." [I am > > >*SO* Tivo-ing that!] > > > > > >If you have the free Flash player installed on your computer and are > > >looking for a really cool, addictive game to swallow up what little > > >free time you actually have, point your Web browser to > > > > > > http://www.lifetimetv.com/games/rsvp/index.html > > > > > >and click on "Play Now." This loads a Flash game called "RSVP" in a > > >new pop-up window, so make sure to disable your pop-up blocker. > > > > > >The game is super simple to play. In fact, here are the instructions: > > > > > > Arrange "guests" around the game-board table. Partygoers are > > > happy when the colors on their card match the colors on either > > > side of them. > > > > > > To get to the next table, all the guests at your party must be > > > happy. You can deal yourself three new cards, but this will cost > > > you five points. You can deal new cards a maximum of four times. > > > > > > Once you have placed "guests" at the table, you are free to move > > > them around to make more matches. > > > > > >Yeah, I know -- that sounds difficult. It really isn't. Trust me. > > > > > >+--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > > > > > > >That's it for today. Have a safe and happy weekend, and we'll talk > > >again soon. > > > > > >=====================[ Tourbus Rider Information ]=================== > > > The Internet Tourbus - U.S. Library of Congress ISSN #1094-2238 > > > Copyright 1995-2003, Rankin & Crispen - All rights reserved > > > > > > Subscribe, Signoff, Archives, Free Stuff and More at the > > > Tourbus Website - http://www.TOURBUS.com > > >==================================================================== > > > .~~~. )) > > > (\__/) .' ) )) Patrick Douglas Crispen > > > /o o \/ .~ > > >{o_, \ { crispen@netsquirrel.com > > > / , , ) \ http://www.netsquirrel.com/ > > > `~ -' \ } )) AOL Instant Messenger: Squirrel2K > > > _( ( )_.' > > >---..{____} Warning: squirrels. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 14:41:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VKfd6q007628 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:41:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D74891E602DB; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:38:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F7B1E602D6 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:38:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2ACCC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:30:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14346020 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:30:59 -0500 Received: from firecrest.mail.pas.earthlink.net (firecrest.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.247]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VKUwa12256 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:30:59 -0500 Received: from sdn-ap-021txhousp0093.dialsprint.net ([65.177.16.93] helo=doris) by firecrest.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AFfv7-0007aW-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:30:58 -0800 Message-ID: <00be01c39fed$e61865d0$bd11b141@doris> Reply-To: "Doris Smith" From: "Doris Smith" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7765E@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Subject: Re: Re: Good news on the MRI scan. Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:30:59 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-ELNK-Trace: 0f572b91323e03d8e9ef466adc09f07e7e972de0d01da940dda1bea1b96f21db11dbb26dd148ddb0350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Reminds me of my comment to my grandson a few days ago when I was preparing to get to the innards of my pc to put in a new sound card: I've already got two screws loose. He had the nerve to laugh himself silly, but so did I, and I'm afraid that is a true statement more times than not when I try to be a technician with my technology...... Doris S > Pardon the associative memory... > > No evidence reminds me of Dizzy Dean when hit by a brushback pitch at a > press conference: > > "They examined my head and found nothing." From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 14:42:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VKgN6q007632 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:42:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C2C9A1E6015D; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:38:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91FF51E60159 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:38:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2ACCF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:31:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14346068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:31:43 -0500 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VKVga12367 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:31:43 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.12d.339fcffb (3948) for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:31:30 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <12d.339fcffb.2cd420a1@aol.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:31:29 EST Subject: Re: HB Theo To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/30/2003 8:24:16 PM, adamh1@COMCAST.NET writes: >Happy birthday, Theo! :D > > > >--Adam > > Same to you, Adam Many happy return of the day ;-) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 14:43:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VKhC6q007640 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:43:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A8EA41E6015D; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:39:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F6BF1E60159 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:39:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2ACE1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:32:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14346117 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:32:32 -0500 Received: from firecrest.mail.pas.earthlink.net (firecrest.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.247]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VKWVa12514 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:32:31 -0500 Received: from sdn-ap-021txhousp0093.dialsprint.net ([65.177.16.93] helo=doris) by firecrest.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AFfwa-00007O-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:32:28 -0800 Message-ID: <00ca01c39fee$1bfa57d0$bd11b141@doris> Reply-To: "Doris Smith" From: "Doris Smith" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031031090331.00a606d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.1.5.2.20031031122251.00a640b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Fwd: Tourbus - 30 Oct 03 - Shoot the Messenger / OS X Bugs Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:32:29 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-ELNK-Trace: 0f572b91323e03d8e9ef466adc09f07e7e972de0d01da9401aceae886716727e9c03e737e7dcafb5350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Not so far, but sometimes I think I hear them. :-) Doris S ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Clark" To: Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 2:23 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: Tourbus - 30 Oct 03 - Shoot the Messenger / OS X Bugs > And we have missed both you and Nancy. Do you see dead people? :-) > > Betty > > At 02:21 PM 10/31/2003 -0600, you wrote: > >Thanks, Betty -- interesting article, especially since I'm having so much > >trouble with my PC and earlier this week I was working on my husband's Mac - > >and I'm just a little old lady in tennis shoes (actually no shoes at the > >moment) who researches dead people. > > > >Doris > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Betty Clark" > >To: > >Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 11:05 AM > >Subject: Fwd: Tourbus - 30 Oct 03 - Shoot the Messenger / OS X Bugs > > > > > > > From the TourBus > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >Shoot the Messenger > > > >Audience: Windows NT, 2000, XP, and 2003 users in all countries > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > >Back in the days of mainframe computing, and *WAY* before the days of > > > >instant messaging as we know it, the folks at computer centers needed > > > >a way to send emergency text messages to everyone announcing things > > > >like > > > > > > > > THE PRINT CENTER CLOSES IN 15 MINUTES! PLEASE PICK UP YOUR PRINT > > > > JOBS IMMEDIATELY. > > > > > > > >or > > > > > > > > SQUADRONS OF SQUIRRELS SPOTTED IN THE VICINITY OF THE SEEBECK > > > > COMPUTER CENTER! YOU WOULD BE WISE TO IMMEDIATELY SAVE YOUR WORK > > > > AS WE WILL SOON BE PLUNGED INTO SQUIRREL-INDUCED DARKNESS. > > > > > > > >So, built into mainframe operating systems like VM/CMS and UNIX are > > > >commands like TELL and WRITE that let you broadcast a simple text > > > >message to a specific user or group of users. [And you get special > > > >karma points if you ever used these commands to spook newbies.] > > > > > > > >Windows has a similar, built-in feature called the "Windows Messenger > > > >Service." Now this is NOT to be confused with "Microsoft Messenger" > > > >or "MSN Messenger," Microsoft's free instant messaging program (a la > > > >AOL Instant Messenger, ICQ, or IRC.) *WINDOWS* Messenger Service is a > > > >way for mainframe and network administrators to broadcast an emergency > > > >text message to all users. > > > > > > > >The Windows Messenger Service is, by default, enabled in Windows NT, > > > >Windows 2000, Windows XP (Home and Professional), and Windows 2003. > > > > > > > >And it's about as useless as giving a job application to my brother. > > > > > > > >The problem is that the Windows Messenger Service can be used by > > > >unscrupulous spammers to send you an untraceable pop-up message even > > > >if your Internet Explorer is closed. And, even worse, a hacker can > > > >use the Windows Messenger Service to break into your computer and do > > > >all sort of nasty things "including installing programs, viewing, > > > >changing or deleting data, or creating new accounts with full > > > >privileges." [Source: Microsoft Security Bulletin MS03-043 at > > > >http://tinyurl.com/r2j3] > > > > > > > >By the way, you DON'T need to worry about the Windows Messenger > > > >Service if have a Mac, a *nix box, Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows > > > >98SE, or Windows ME. BUT, if you have Windows NT, Windows 2000, > > > >Windows XP, and Windows 2003, you need to turn this little bugger off. > > > >Now. > > > > > > > >You could manually disable the Windows Messenger Service if you want > > > >-- the University of Virginia's Information Technology and > > > >Communications department shows you how to disable it at > > > >http://www.itc.virginia.edu/desktop/docs/messagepopup/ -- but if I > > > >were you I'd just hop on over to > > > > > > > > http://grc.com/stm/shootthemessenger.htm > > > > > > > >and download the free "Shoot the Messenger" program. I *HIGHLY* > > > >recommend this program for four reasons: > > > > > > > > 1. It's free. Free is good. > > > > > > > > 2. The Shoot the Messenger program is only 22 kilobytes in size. > > > > That's so small it's downright silly. You can download this > > > > program literally faster than you can read this sentence, even > > > > on the slowest modem connection on earth. > > > > > > > > 3. Shoot the Messenger was created by Steve Gibson at Gibson > > > > Research, the guy behind ShieldsUp and SpinRite. Steve is > > > > probably one of the most trusted and respected computer gurus > > > > on the planet. Having Steve Gibson [through his Shoot the > > > > Messenger program] disable the Windows Messenger Service for > > > > you is like having Lance Armstrong fix your bike or Michael > > > > Schumaker fix your car. > > > > > > > > 4. Downloading and running Shoot the Messenger keeps you from > > > > having to get your hands dirty by going to Start > Settings > > > > > Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Services > Messenger ... > > > > blah blah blah. > > > > > > > >Once you have downloaded Shoot the Messenger, just double-click on the > > > >shootthemessenger.exe icon. A little window appears telling you if > > > >the Windows Messenger Service is running on your computer. If it is, > > > >just click on the "Disable Messenger" button and then click on "Exit." > > > > > > > >That's it. The Windows Messenger Service is now disabled, and your > > > >computer is now protected from both the spammers and the hackers who > > > >have been using the Windows Messenger Service to do nasty things to > > > >other people's computers. > > > > > > > >Oh, and you can delete shootthemessenger.exe if you want. You don't > > > >need it any more. :) > > > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >Nightmare of the Jaguar > > > >Audience: Mac users in all countries, especially if you use or plan to > > > >use OS-X > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > >It looks like the security problems that have plagued the Windows > > > >community have now invaded the Mac community as well. > > > > > > > >According to a report at CNET's News.com, > > > > > > > > Cambridge, Mass.-based @Stake released three advisories on > > > > Tuesday. The first details "systemic" flaws in the way OS X > > > > handles file and directory permissions; the second notes a > > > > kernel-level vulnerability that does not affect default > > > > installations of the operating system; and the third involves a > > > > buffer-overflow condition that may be remotely exploitable. > > > > > > > > [Source: http://news.com.com/2100-1016-5098688.html] > > > > > > > >The solution to all three problems seems to be to upgrade to Mac OS X > > > >10.3 (a.k.a. "Panther.") for US$129.00. > > > > > > > >Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. If it is any consolation, John > > > >Paczkowski at Good Morning Silicon Valley adds that > > > > > > > > some in the Mac community are questioning the integrity of the > > > > advisory. After all, @stake is a consulting company that works > > > > closely with Microsoft. And it did recently dismiss one of its > > > > marquee security researchers for calling "the ubiquity of > > > > Microsoft software a hazard to the economy and to national > > > > security" > > > > > > > > [Source: http://tinyurl.com/swsx ] > > > > > > > >Of course, you could always just upgrade to Windows XP and avoid this > > > >mess altogether. :P > > > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >RSVP > > > >Audience: Mac and PC users in all countries who have the Flash player > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > >Our last stop comes to us courtesy of the Lifetime television network, > > > >the folks behind blockbuster movies of the week like "Voices from > > > >within: Where's my baby?," "Seduced by madness: what did you do to my > > > >baby?," and [while the first two are made up, this next one is > > > >actually a real movie title] "Baby Monitor: Sound of Fear." [I am > > > >*SO* Tivo-ing that!] > > > > > > > >If you have the free Flash player installed on your computer and are > > > >looking for a really cool, addictive game to swallow up what little > > > >free time you actually have, point your Web browser to > > > > > > > > http://www.lifetimetv.com/games/rsvp/index.html > > > > > > > >and click on "Play Now." This loads a Flash game called "RSVP" in a > > > >new pop-up window, so make sure to disable your pop-up blocker. > > > > > > > >The game is super simple to play. In fact, here are the instructions: > > > > > > > > Arrange "guests" around the game-board table. Partygoers are > > > > happy when the colors on their card match the colors on either > > > > side of them. > > > > > > > > To get to the next table, all the guests at your party must be > > > > happy. You can deal yourself three new cards, but this will cost > > > > you five points. You can deal new cards a maximum of four times. > > > > > > > > Once you have placed "guests" at the table, you are free to move > > > > them around to make more matches. > > > > > > > >Yeah, I know -- that sounds difficult. It really isn't. Trust me. > > > > > > > >+--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > > > > > > > > > >That's it for today. Have a safe and happy weekend, and we'll talk > > > >again soon. > > > > > > > >=====================[ Tourbus Rider Information ]=================== > > > > The Internet Tourbus - U.S. Library of Congress ISSN #1094-2238 > > > > Copyright 1995-2003, Rankin & Crispen - All rights reserved > > > > > > > > Subscribe, Signoff, Archives, Free Stuff and More at the > > > > Tourbus Website - http://www.TOURBUS.com > > > >==================================================================== > > > > .~~~. )) > > > > (\__/) .' ) )) Patrick Douglas Crispen > > > > /o o \/ .~ > > > >{o_, \ { crispen@netsquirrel.com > > > > / , , ) \ http://www.netsquirrel.com/ > > > > `~ -' \ } )) AOL Instant Messenger: Squirrel2K > > > > _( ( )_.' > > > >---..{____} Warning: squirrels. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 14:57:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VKvn6q007750 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:57:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CD5A01E60206; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:54:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D6FD1E601FD for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:54:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2AD1D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:47:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14346721 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:47:09 -0500 Received: from imo-m01.mx.aol.com (imo-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.4]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VKl9a15687 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:47:09 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1e8.1239ab8f (3948) for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:46:55 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1e8.1239ab8f.2cd4243e@aol.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:46:54 EST Subject: Re: HB Adam and Theo To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/30/2003 9:41:09 PM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: >Theo, in the old country (Pennsylvania) we used to >call this Mischief Night. Have you been up to >anything on your birthday? How's Micky? > In MY old country, we're ALWAYS up to something,Lynne! And Adam and I being scorpios, you must know how naughty WE are :-) Micky s'been up to no good today too. Caught 2 mice, instead of leaving them where they were, she had to bring them inside...grrr Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 14:59:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VKxW6q007759 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:59:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9C5511E602D5; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:55:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 693471E60206 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:55:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2AD12@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:48:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14346765 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:48:52 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VKmpa15938 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:48:51 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:48:46 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77664@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: HB Adam and Theo Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:48:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Theo Groothof [mailto:Dutchessg1@AOL.COM] >Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 3:47 PM >In a message dated 10/30/2003 9:41:09 PM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: > >>Theo, in the old country (Pennsylvania) we used to >>call this Mischief Night. Have you been up to >>anything on your birthday? How's Micky? >> >In MY old country, we're ALWAYS up to something,Lynne! >And Adam and I being scorpios, you must know how naughty WE are :-) >Micky s'been up to no good today too. Caught 2 mice, instead >of leaving them >where they were, she had to bring them inside...grrr >Theo Are these activities worse (by comparison) than rumspringa? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 15:01:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VL1w6q007783 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:01:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9F96C1E600BF; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:58:19 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 715B41E60159 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:58:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2AD1B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:51:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14346854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:51:18 -0500 Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VKpHa16331 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:51:17 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.199.21cf77d6 (3948) for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:51:04 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <199.21cf77d6.2cd42538@aol.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:51:04 EST Subject: Re: HB Theo To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/31/2003 2:13:45 AM, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: >Happy Bday, Theo! >clo > Thanks, Clo. It was great; received this beautiful new color printer from my youngest! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 15:02:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VL2B6q007787 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:02:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A499C1E601FD; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:58:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7552A1E60159 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:58:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2AD1C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:51:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14346866 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:51:31 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VKpUa16371 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:51:30 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:51:25 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77666@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: Something New Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:51:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Want something new to do???? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Virus turns PCs into spam machines Experts say a new e-mail virus that is capable of turning computers into 'spamming' machines. 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Anti-virus software makers Trend Micro reported that tens of thousands of its corporate computer users in France and Germany were hit Friday afternoon by the virus, dubbed "Mimail.C." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 15:04:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VL4I6q007795 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:04:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BBEE61E601FD; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:00:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88F431E60159 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:00:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2AD22@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:53:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14346922 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:53:38 -0500 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VKrca16777 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:53:38 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1d0.136f2b16 (3948) for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:53:22 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1d0.136f2b16.2cd425c2@aol.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:53:22 EST Subject: Re: HB To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/31/2003 6:53:10 AM, dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes: >>Happy Birthday, Theo! >> >>Happy Birthday, Adam! > >Indeed! > >Bethany > Thanks for your good wishes, Bethany Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 15:04:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VL4f6q007798 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:04:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 47D6B1E60159; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:01:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 196A21E601FD for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:01:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2AD23@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:54:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14346933 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:54:00 -0500 Received: from web20515.mail.yahoo.com (web20515.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.232.184]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9VKs0a16838 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:54:00 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20515.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:53:59 PST Message-ID: <20031031205359.40917.qmail@web20515.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:53:59 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: HB Adam and Theo To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77664@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Phil Paxton wrote: > Are these activities worse (by comparison) than rumspringa? You are referring, of course, to the antics of a rum springa spaniel. Nuaghty dogs. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 15:06:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VL6S6q007813 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:06:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E4A2C1E60206; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:02:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1B4C1E601FD for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:02:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2AD31@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:55:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14347048 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:55:48 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VKtma17407 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:55:48 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:55:42 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77667@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: HB Adam and Theo Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:55:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Lynne Weber [mailto:lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] >Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 3:54 PM >--- Phil Paxton wrote: >> Are these activities worse (by comparison) than >rumspringa? > >You are referring, of course, to the antics of a rum >springa spaniel. Nuaghty dogs. Um, no. I was wondering if the described antics & pranks were anything like rumspringa. As in Amish rumspringa. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 15:06:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VL6n6q007816 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:06:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E0A8D1E600BF; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:03:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B06DF1E601FD for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:03:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2AD33@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:56:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14347075 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:56:09 -0500 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VKu9a17509 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:56:09 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.91.3509795a (3948) for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:55:56 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <91.3509795a.2cd4265c@aol.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:55:56 EST Subject: Re: HB To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/31/2003 7:01:20 AM, leonard@BC.EDU writes: >Happy Birthday Adam and Theo! And Happy Halloween everybody :-) > > > >Rita L. > > Thanks, Rita and same to you :-) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 15:09:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VL936q007873 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:09:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0C83F1E60159; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:05:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D35A41E600BF for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:05:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001C9E95@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:58:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14347147 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:58:16 -0500 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VKwGa17963 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:58:16 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.ea.40b2db96 (3948) for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:58:05 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:58:05 EST Subject: Re: HB To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/31/2003 7:45:07 AM, Prbarfoo@SYR.EDU writes: >d'accord > >I hope it's a happy one > >BrP > I can only speak for myself, but it was the best! :-) Thanks Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 15:20:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VLK96q008041 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:20:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3FC591E601FD; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:16:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1105A1E60206 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:16:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2AE0F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:09:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14348742 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:09:28 -0500 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VL9Sa21553 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:09:28 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.e6.4116f4a8 (3948) for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:09:17 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:09:17 EST Subject: Re: IMFTATL - error message after installing updates and rebooting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/31/2003 11:50:26 AM, toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM writes: >Not trying to be too much of a troublemaker here....but ever have sound >problems with your Macintosh? :-) >-aht > Shhhhhh :-) Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 15:23:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VLNL6q008082 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:23:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A511E1E60206; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:19:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64C971E60159 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:19:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001C9F5C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:12:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14348877 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:12:40 -0500 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VLCea22110 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:12:40 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.27.4a51ad31 (3948) for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:12:24 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <27.4a51ad31.2cd42a37@aol.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:12:23 EST Subject: Re: FW: Good news on the MRI scan. To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/31/2003 12:06:11 PM, plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU writes: >Good news for Heide. I thought I would share some good news. > I saw your scan from 10/25. There is no evidence of any residual or recurrent tumor (good) > >alec Good indeed. Congrats Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 15:36:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VLa66q008207 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:36:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2FE601E6020B; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:32:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8EE61E60159 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:32:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2AE67@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:25:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14349738 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:25:25 -0500 Received: from web20515.mail.yahoo.com (web20515.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.232.184]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h9VLPPa24516 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:25:25 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20515.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:25:24 PST Message-ID: <20031031212524.48915.qmail@web20515.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:25:24 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: HB Adam and Theo To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77667@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Phil Paxton wrote: > Um, no. I was wondering if the described antics & > pranks were anything like > rumspringa. As in Amish rumspringa. It would be a revelation to me if the Amish had anything to do with "rum" anything:-] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 15:39:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VLdh6q008248 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:39:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 72E941E60206; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:36:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4110A1E6020B for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:36:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2AE6D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:29:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14349931 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:29:02 -0500 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VLT2a25206 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:29:02 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1e7.127f51c0 (3948) for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:28:52 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1e7.127f51c0.2cd42e13@aol.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:28:51 EST Subject: Re: HB Adam and Theo To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/31/2003 2:54:20 PM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: >You are referring, of course, to the antics of a rum >springa spaniel. Nuaghty dogs. > Oh is that what they are, wasn't sure. All I ever had was a labrador, and she could be naughty, but the terrier was known to catch most anything! But Micky is a kitty, so I can't really blame her, can I? Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 16:25:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VMP96q008660 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:25:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 195A51E602DC; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:21:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D91081E6020B for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:21:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2B0FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:14:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14356217 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:14:28 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VMEOa05347 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:14:28 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:14:06 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77669@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: HB Adam and Theo Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:14:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Lynne Weber [mailto:lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] >Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 4:25 PM >--- Phil Paxton wrote: >> Um, no. I was wondering if the described antics & >> pranks were anything like >> rumspringa. As in Amish rumspringa. > >It would be a revelation to me if the Amish had >anything to do with "rum" anything:-] ah, then this should be fun. I'm certain there are papers, articles, and all sort of resources online about regarding this topic, so you can google it until your heart is content (or if you don't believe me - I'm not making any of this up). I grew up in North Central Indiana (Kosciusko County, just like Mt., in Australia - the Polish general who helped us during the Revolutionary War), which has a sizeable settlement of Amish. I lived in Warsaw (again, reference to the General), they lived in Nappanee - there's even a place called Amish Acres there which is a very popular tourist attraction. Another group lives South of Ft. Wayne, in Adams County. You can tell you're getting closer to a desired location in Indiana because the cars' license plates are numbered to be associated with the county they come from. This doesn't hold true for vanity license plates ("KF 787" - "Kids First"; or "PB2AU" - "Lead to Gold"), but the counties were numbered based on alphabetic order, numbers used, and finally, letters were used to extend the number of cars in each county: "43A878" would be Kosciusko County, A, 878. So heading to South of Ft. Wayne (Allen County, #2; where Johnny Appleseed is buried) you'd be looking for in Adams County (#1) for cities such as Berne - a large homestead of Amish. Back to the issue of the Amish. The non-adults are *not* Amish. At least, not as "Amish = members of the Amish church". Only adults (>= 21) can join the church. So the kids are not members but they are kept in line by their parents. When the kids get to be teens, especially of driving age, they enter "rumspringa". They get jobs "on the outside", buy and drive cars, play hard music, drink, do drugs, and it's not unusual to find Amish having sex - including females - something the English (non-Amish guys) find very interesting [and they pursue for just this reason]. Basically, they live the lives of outsiders as they choose and get to taste life on the other side of the fence. And the notion of them having cars is very funny - driving by an Amish farm|homestead and seeing a car parked is unusual but some who are not familiar will presume an English friend has stopped by to see them. (There are Amish who will ride in cars - e.g., to|from work, etc.; and there are *very rare* instances of Amish owning a car. And it's not totally unfamiliar for Amish to have a cell phone but they give it to their English neighbors to charge it for them. All of this is not limited to what I've seen here in Indiana, BTW. As they attain adulthood and are old enough to make the decision to achieve membership, they then have a choice: live the English life or join the church and live as Amish. Some elect to not return and an even smaller number will return to English years later. BTW, if anyone has seen one of these things: X----------O------O-------O------O-----O Which rolls around a farm field (with the left side anchored) to spray water covering a large circle, that was invented by an Amish gentleman (so they don't avoid all technology) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 16:26:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VMQ06q008674 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:26:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0598D1E602DE; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:22:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA3EC1E602DD for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:22:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2B111@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:15:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14356290 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:15:19 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f59.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.59]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VMFJa05493 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:15:19 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:15:13 -0800 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 22:15:12 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Reading the archives Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:15:12 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Oct 2003 22:15:13.0268 (UTC) FILETIME=[74901340:01C39FFC] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Anne Toal >Canadians let furriners own property in country? So does Mexico, but >periodically they nationalize it in the name of the People. Yes, they do. Ontario once levied a prohibitive tax on such purchases, but it was repealed some years ago. Quebec still maintains restrictions on foreign purchase of certain kinds of property. Year round population of Meldrum Bay is estimated at 40. Thoughtfully provided by a local realtor, here's a map of Manitoulin Island: http://www.manitoulinproperty.com/map2.htm Click the extreme west end of the island, and this should take you to more detail and Meldrum Bay. I have no plans to publish any photos to the web, and the list configuration doesn't permit attachments. I'll send photos directly to those who indicate an interest. _________________________________________________________________ Surf and talk on the phone at the same time with broadband Internet access. Get high-speed for as low as $29.95/month (depending on the local service providers in your area). https://broadband.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 16:27:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VMRN6q008700 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:27:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F18EE1E602DB; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:23:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFD8E1E60219 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:23:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2B109@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:16:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14356346 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:16:42 -0500 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VMGga05662 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:16:42 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.54.1b7ffeab (24895) for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:16:20 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <54.1b7ffeab.2cd43934@aol.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:16:20 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Fwd: Tourbus - 30 Oct 03 - Shoot the Messenger / OS X Bugs To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris, I'm glad you're back! Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Winston Zeddemore: "If there's a steady paycheck in it, I'll believe anything you say." From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 16:27:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VMRZ6q008703 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:27:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A24BE1E602DB; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:23:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73A061E60219 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:23:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2B118@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:16:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14356351 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:16:53 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VMGra05687 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:16:53 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:16:48 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7766A@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Happy Halloween Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:16:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Bethany K. Dumas [mailto:dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU] >Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 8:04 AM >Happy Halloween all - it seems appropriate that I picked up some of the >play money $20 bills yesterday - they look like Halloween! Last night's national news showed people getting scammed with fake "new" $20s! People didn't know what to expect except some extra coloring so they accepted what they got. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 16:51:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VMp76q009056 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:51:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 643621E602DC; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:47:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36E221E602DB for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:47:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2B1CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:40:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14357942 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:40:25 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VMePa09640 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:40:25 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9VMeOeO008218 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:40:24 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9VMeNa2008206 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:40:23 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031031143651.00a5b7e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:37:17 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Reading the archives In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I have no plans to publish any photos to the web, and the list configuration >doesn't permit attachments. I'll send photos directly to those who indicate >an interest. Yes, please. BB From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 17:28:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VNSw6q009475 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:28:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4F1681E602DB; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:25:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EC0A1E6020B for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:25:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001CA387@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 18:18:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14360381 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 18:18:14 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VNHpa17776 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 18:17:52 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9VNHp9q000213 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:17:51 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FA2ED59.6080106@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:16:41 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words-l Subject: Halloween with Ana Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU We're getting ready to go trick or treating and to the haunted hay ride behind the house. Ana is preparing her jokes, the pumpkin is glowing, and my absolutely hugest bowl is full of candy. Happy Halloween :). http://www.etext.org/~rita/halloween03.html -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 17:56:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h9VNus6q009774 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:56:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 47DD51E602DF; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:53:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 104311E6020B for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:53:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2B3C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 18:46:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14362593 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 18:46:12 -0500 Received: from heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net (heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.189]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9VNkCa25112 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 18:46:12 -0500 Received: from sdn-ap-021txhousp0266.dialsprint.net ([65.177.17.12] helo=earthlink.net) by heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AFiy3-0001Nu-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:46:11 -0800 Message-ID: <410-22003105312346138@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: dormarbil@earthlink.net X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2003.2.92.0 (Windows) From: "Doris Smith" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Halloween with Ana Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:46:13 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-ELNK-Trace: 0f572b91323e03d8e9ef466adc09f07e7e972de0d01da940b396cb90a3f2f013329ff43bf555453a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It's a toss up as to which is prettier - the lovely blonde or the scrumptious blue dress! Doris Smith dormarbil@earthlink.net Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 18:23:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA10Nm6q010185 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 18:23:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5E7DB1E602E3; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 18:20:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F9CC1E602E1 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 18:20:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2B462@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:13:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14364258 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:13:06 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA10D6a28430 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:13:06 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA10D42f031784 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:13:05 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA10D4JC031763 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:13:04 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031031160934.00a5bec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:09:58 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Halloween with Ana In-Reply-To: <3FA2ED59.6080106@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU And she is gorgeous. I wanted to see the candy bowl, too. :-) Betty At 05:16 PM 10/31/2003 -0600, you wrote: >We're getting ready to go trick or treating and to the >haunted hay ride behind the house. Ana is preparing her >jokes, the pumpkin is glowing, and my absolutely hugest bowl >is full of candy. Happy Halloween :). > >http://www.etext.org/~rita/halloween03.html > >-- >Rita Rouvalis Chapman >rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org >http://www.etext.org/~rita > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 18:44:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA10iE6q010370 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 18:44:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2F8071E602E1; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 18:40:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F14241E602E0 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 18:40:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2B4BC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:33:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14365185 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:33:32 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA10XWa31159 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:33:32 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001CA524@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:33:31 -0500 Message-Id: <200311010033.hA10XWa31159@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:33:32 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: FW: Good news on the MRI scan. To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:37:39 -0800, Betty Clark wrote: >Fantastic!! That is wonderful news, Alec. What a relief for all of you. > >Betty > >At 01:05 PM 10/31/2003 -0500, you wrote: >>Good news for Heide. I thought I would share some good news. >> >>Alec >> >> >>Heide: >> >> >> >>I saw your scan from 10/25. There is no evidence of any >> >>residual or recurrent tumor (good) YaY!! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 18:46:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA10k56q010384 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 18:46:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E4B211E6020B; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 18:42:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD3181E60163 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 18:42:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001CA52A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:35:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14365265 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:35:20 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA10Z8a31381 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:35:08 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-133.gwi.net [216.195.156.133]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA10Z6Ar093290 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:35:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031031193408.00bb0668@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:35:17 -0500 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: bonniev Subject: is there some... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Is there some third world country to which I can mail all of this freakin' leftover Halloween candy to??????? bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 18:49:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA10nm6q010412 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 18:49:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 63E661E6020E; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 18:46:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 325921E6020B for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 18:46:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001CA559@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:39:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14365418 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:39:06 -0500 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA10d6a32052 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:39:06 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.37.400ad387 (4262) for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:38:57 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <37.400ad387.2cd45aa0@aol.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:38:56 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] is there some... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/31/2003 6:35:46 PM Central Standard Time, bonniev@GWI.NET writes: << Is there some third world country to which I can mail all of this freakin' leftover Halloween candy to??????? >> How about your nearest women's shelter? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Winston Zeddemore: "If there's a steady paycheck in it, I'll believe anything you say." From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 18:50:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA10oK6q010418 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 18:50:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5D5501E6020E; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 18:46:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F9231E6020B for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 18:46:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2B4E6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:39:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14365453 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:39:38 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA10dca32158 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:39:38 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001CA554@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:39:37 -0500 Message-Id: <200311010039.hA10dca32158@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:39:38 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Halloween with Ana To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:09:58 -0800, Betty Clark wrote: >And she is gorgeous. I wanted to see the candy bowl, too. :-) > >Betty > >At 05:16 PM 10/31/2003 -0600, you wrote: >>We're getting ready to go trick or treating and to the >>haunted hay ride behind the house. Ana is preparing her >>jokes, the pumpkin is glowing, and my absolutely hugest bowl >>is full of candy. Happy Halloween :). >> >>http://www.etext.org/~rita/halloween03.html Say happy Halloween for me! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 20:06:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA126s6q011170 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:06:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 644C51E6022B; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:03:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3729E1E60211 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:03:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2B580@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:56:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14367097 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:56:11 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA11uBa11821 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:56:11 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2003110101560501400dge2oe> (Authid: adamh1); Sat, 1 Nov 2003 01:56:05 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Sound still no good Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:56:03 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socketa/a7n8x-d/overview.htm > > Ditched my Soundblaster card and never looked back! Wow, that's quite the fancy motherboard. I have an Audigy at work which I adore. It's my own - I bought it myself with my own money, and it will migrate to my next computer. I listen to music all day at work, so audio is important to me. --Adam adamh1@comcast.net From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 20:14:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA12EQ6q011205 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:14:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3C99E1E6016D; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:10:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08AB21E60163 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:10:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2B582@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:03:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14367251 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:03:43 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA123ga12406 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:03:43 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003110102033701500oqqpme> (Authid: adamh1); Sat, 1 Nov 2003 02:03:37 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Good news on the MRI scan. Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:03:34 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <000101c39fd9$a2040d40$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> Importance: Normal X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Good news for Heide. I thought I would share some good news. > > Alec > > >>Heide: > >> > >>I saw your scan from 10/25. There is no evidence of any > >>residual or recurrent tumor (good) Wow, that's great news, Alec! --Adam adamh1@comcast.net From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 20:42:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA12gP6q011551 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:42:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 431A51E602E3; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:38:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14E381E602E1 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:38:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2B5B9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:31:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14367843 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:31:42 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA12Vfa15163 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:31:41 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003110102313601300o1g3se> (Authid: adamh1); Sat, 1 Nov 2003 02:31:36 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "meebers" Subject: Thanks Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:31:33 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thanks for all the HB greetings. :) I had a pretty hectic day at work training a new hire, and then went to Mom's house, where she and Melanie surprised me with take-out from my favorite sushi place. It was nice. --Adam adamh1@comcast.net From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 20:45:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA12jX6q011611 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:45:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B1F8E1E60179; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:41:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81B701E60163 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:41:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2B5BE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:34:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14367888 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:34:50 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA12Yoa15385 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:34:50 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA12YnW1022527 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 18:34:49 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA12YmWq022518; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 18:34:48 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031031183556.00a4f6e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 18:36:38 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: is there some... In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031031193408.00bb0668@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:35 PM 10/31/2003 -0500, bonniev wrote: >Is there some third world country to which I can mail all of this freakin' >leftover Halloween candy to??????? > >bonnie Eat (or drink?) some more. You are writing funny. BB From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 20:59:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA12x36q011744 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:59:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F0D3A1E60224; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:55:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE5221E60179 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:55:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001CA680@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:48:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14368167 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:47:02 -0500 Received: from web20516.mail.yahoo.com (web20516.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.232.185]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA12l2a16497 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:47:02 -0500 Received: from [66.20.150.238] by web20516.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 18:47:01 PST Message-ID: <20031101024701.56465.qmail@web20516.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 18:47:01 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: HB Adam and Theo To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77669@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Phil Paxton wrote: > to what I've seen here in Indiana, BTW. As they > attain adulthood and are > old enough to make the decision to achieve > membership, they then have a > choice: live the English life or join the church > and live as Amish. Some > elect to not return and an even smaller number will > return to English years > later. > > BTW, if anyone has seen one of these things: > > > X----------O------O-------O------O-----O > > Which rolls around a farm field (with the left side > anchored) to spray water > covering a large circle, that was invented by an > Amish gentleman (so they > don't avoid all technology) There are two large irrigation systems pf which you speak (and illustrate) on two large farms in Baldwin County in south Alabama. One system is functional, the other seems to be rusting away. I was raised in Montgomery County, PA, not far from Lancaster County. As you say, the young folks are not Amish until they reach maturity. And they do experiment with all sorts of tools of the devil. (There was a time when drag racing in drawn buggies became a traffic problem.) More recently, there was a scrap regarding the neon hued safety signs that had to be displayed in the backs of their buggies. My point is that mature members of the Amish church and community would not indulge in demon rum, though their heck-raising' offspring might. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 21:01:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA131f6q011766 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:01:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 23A911E60224; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:58:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E27B01E6022B for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:57:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001CA662@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:50:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14368234 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:50:57 -0500 Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com (web20502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA12oua16993 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:50:56 -0500 Received: from [66.20.150.238] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 18:50:54 PST Message-ID: <20031101025054.52865.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 18:50:54 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Halloween with Ana To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FA2ED59.6080106@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Rita Chapman wrote: > We're getting ready to go trick or treating and to > the > haunted hay ride behind the house. Ana is preparing > her > jokes, the pumpkin is glowing, and my absolutely > hugest bowl > is full of candy. Happy Halloween :). Rita: I stopped in this evening, and the candy was first-rate, but you didn't know who I was! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 21:02:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA13256q011769 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:02:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A575F1E60224; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:58:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 784BE1E60179 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:58:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001CA67E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:51:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14368240 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:51:22 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA12pLa17049 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:51:21 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA12pK9q000264 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:51:20 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FA31F50.70505@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:49:52 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Halloween with Ana References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031031160934.00a5bec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thanks ;). I'm eating some of her candy right now -- just the good stuff. Mom's rights. Betty Clark wrote: > And she is gorgeous. I wanted to see the candy bowl, too. :-) > > Betty > > At 05:16 PM 10/31/2003 -0600, you wrote: > >> We're getting ready to go trick or treating and to the >> haunted hay ride behind the house. Ana is preparing her >> jokes, the pumpkin is glowing, and my absolutely hugest bowl >> is full of candy. Happy Halloween :). >> >> http://www.etext.org/~rita/halloween03.html >> >> -- >> Rita Rouvalis Chapman >> rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org >> http://www.etext.org/~rita >> > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 21:03:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA133U6q011775 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:03:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 04BA31E60224; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:59:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C99951E60179 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:59:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2B5E1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:52:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14368267 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:52:47 -0500 Received: from web20506.mail.yahoo.com (web20506.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA12qka17248 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:52:47 -0500 Received: from [66.20.150.238] by web20506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 18:52:44 PST Message-ID: <20031101025244.30778.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 18:52:44 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: is there some... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031031193408.00bb0668@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: > Is there some third world country to which I can > mail all of this freakin' > leftover Halloween candy to??????? > > bonnie Alabama __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 21:03:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA133s6q011788 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:03:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BA1111E6022B; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:00:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C6E81E60224 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:00:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2B5FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:53:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14368282 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:53:10 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA12rAa17302 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:53:10 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA12r9W1004292 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 18:53:09 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA12r7Wq004280; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 18:53:08 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031031185415.00a2b2f0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 18:54:57 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Halloween with Ana In-Reply-To: <3FA31F50.70505@swbell.net> References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031031160934.00a5bec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU You should send it to me so I can radiate it. Make sure there are no razor blades, etc. Of course I'll return it all promptly. Betty At 08:49 PM 10/31/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > Thanks ;). I'm eating some of her candy right now -- just >the good stuff. Mom's rights. > >Betty Clark wrote: > >>And she is gorgeous. I wanted to see the candy bowl, too. :-) >> >>Betty >> >>At 05:16 PM 10/31/2003 -0600, you wrote: >> >>>We're getting ready to go trick or treating and to the >>>haunted hay ride behind the house. Ana is preparing her >>>jokes, the pumpkin is glowing, and my absolutely hugest bowl >>>is full of candy. Happy Halloween :). >>> >>>http://www.etext.org/~rita/halloween03.html >>> >>>-- >>>Rita Rouvalis Chapman >>>rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org >>>http://www.etext.org/~rita > > >-- >Rita Rouvalis Chapman >rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org >http://www.etext.org/~rita > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 21:07:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA137c6q011827 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:07:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A0DD41E60224; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:03:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DD061E60179 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:03:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2B5EA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:56:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14368371 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:56:55 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA12uta17874 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:56:55 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA12uQlw002035 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 18:56:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FA3209C.8080007@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:55:24 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words-l Subject: In the spirit of halloween Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I ran www.words-l.org through the following website: http://homokaasu.org/gematriculator/ You will all be pleased to learn that the list site is rated 80% Evil. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 21:11:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA13B56q011883 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:11:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ADE691E60224; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:07:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D5511E60179 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:07:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2B5F4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 22:00:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14368478 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 22:00:21 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA130La18482 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 22:00:21 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA130KeO008509 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:00:20 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA130Ja2008483; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:00:19 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031031190146.00a42b90@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:02:08 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: In the spirit of halloween In-Reply-To: <3FA3209C.8080007@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:55 PM 10/31/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >I ran www.words-l.org through the following website: > >http://homokaasu.org/gematriculator/ > >You will all be pleased to learn that the list site is rated >80% Evil. Cool. What can we do to increase the percentage? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 21:12:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA13CJ6q011889 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:12:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 900C11E60239; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:08:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61A751E6022B for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:08:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2B5F8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 22:01:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14368508 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 22:01:36 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA131aa18726 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 22:01:36 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2003110103013001400dge58e> (Authid: adamh1); Sat, 1 Nov 2003 03:01:30 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: In the spirit of halloween Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 22:01:28 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031031190146.00a42b90@uclink.berkeley.edu> Importance: Normal X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >You will all be pleased to learn that the list site is rated > >80% Evil. > > Cool. What can we do to increase the percentage? > > Betty I was gonna say, "that's it?"!!! --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 21:14:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA13EL6q011897 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:14:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2BFDE1E6022B; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:10:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA9A41E60224 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:10:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2B613@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 22:03:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14368610 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 22:03:38 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA133ba19192 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 22:03:38 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA133Alw005084 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:03:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FA3222F.5010404@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:02:07 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Halloween with Ana References: <410-22003105312346138@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Not bad for $9 at K-mart, huh? Welcome back, Doris. Doris Smith wrote: > It's a toss up as to which is prettier - the lovely blonde or the > scrumptious blue dress! > > Doris Smith > dormarbil@earthlink.net > Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. > > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 21:15:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA13Fc6q011900 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:15:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CF1001E60224; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:11:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F2DC1E6022B for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:11:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2B619@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 22:04:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14368662 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 22:04:55 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA134sa19422 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 22:04:54 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA134r2f030460 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:04:53 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA134pJC030446; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:04:52 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031031190501.00a4c270@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:06:41 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: In the spirit of halloween In-Reply-To: References: <4.2.2.20031031190146.00a42b90@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:01 PM 10/31/2003 -0500, Adam Hartfield wrote: > > >You will all be pleased to learn that the list site is rated > > >80% Evil. > > > > Cool. What can we do to increase the percentage? > > > > Betty > >I was gonna say, "that's it?"!!! Adam, have you settled on a SnowBash date yet? I have these free tickets I have to use before July 4. We were thinking of going to Boston since we missed that last year. Can't afford Namibia. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 21:17:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA13Hj6q011925 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:17:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B3A0B1E60239; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:14:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A261E6022B for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:14:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001CA6B7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 22:07:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14368715 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 22:07:01 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA1371a19777 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 22:07:01 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA136Xlw006521 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:06:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FA322F9.9020108@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:05:29 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: In the spirit of halloween References: <4.2.2.20031031190146.00a42b90@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > At 08:55 PM 10/31/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > >> I ran www.words-l.org through the following website: >> >> http://homokaasu.org/gematriculator/ >> >> You will all be pleased to learn that the list site is rated >> 80% Evil. > > > Cool. What can we do to increase the percentage? Something with vowels. Have Tush add some moaning. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Oct 31 21:24:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA13O06q011979 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:24:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A998E1E6022B; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:20:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AE331E60249 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:20:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001CA6A3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 22:13:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14368848 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 22:13:16 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA13DGa20769 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 22:13:16 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003110103131001300o1g50e> (Authid: adamh1); Sat, 1 Nov 2003 03:13:10 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: In the spirit of halloween Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 22:13:08 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031031190501.00a4c270@uclink.berkeley.edu> Importance: Normal X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Adam, have you settled on a SnowBash date yet? Nope. :) --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 1 02:27:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA18R46q014846 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 02:27:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E8C241E6019D; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 02:23:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5D301E60199 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 02:23:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2BDCB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 3:16:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14384348 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 03:16:18 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA18GIa24824 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 03:16:18 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2003110108160801400cb6q1e>; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 08:16:09 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031031223848.04026388@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2003 00:15:59 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: HB Adam and Theo In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77669@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id hA18GIa24825 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton writes, >Which rolls around a farm field (with the left side anchored) to spray water >covering a large circle, that was invented by an Amish gentleman Sorry, I've got a lot of real work to do, so I'm procrastinating, and that sounds like good trivia. Here's what I got. Would love to know more about the Amish connection. Center pivot irrigation system. Invented by Frank Zybach in 1948, patented in 1952, sold to Valley Manufacturing in 1954. Revolutionized irrigation around the world. Zybach was a resident of eastern Colorado, but the first development and manufacturing was done in Nebraska. Valmont (née Valley Manufacturing) history http://www.valmont.com/company/the_company2.shtml Center pivot on Wall Street http://www.cfgrower.com/peepsbiz/oct/anirr.html Short Zybach bio with additional (print) references http://www.nebpress.com/700/engtech.html American Society of Agricultural Engineers plaque http://www.asae.org/awards/historic2/30.html Irrigation en carrousel, Jordanie (photo) http://www.notre-planete.info/images/compteurimages.php?id=405&rep=paysages Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 1 07:19:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA1DJe6q017227 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 07:19:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B064B1E601AD; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 07:15:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 836BC1E600C0 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 07:15:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001CB07B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 8:08:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14217794 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 08:08:53 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA1D8qa23652 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 08:08:52 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA1D8m8b010364 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 08:08:48 -0500 Received: from LAPLAND ([131.128.223.78]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA1D8lfC015513 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 08:08:48 -0500 Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2003 08:03:40 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: FW: Good news on the MRI scan. Message-ID: <2521931185.1067673820@LAPLAND> In-Reply-To: <000101c39fd9$a2040d40$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> Originator-Info: login-id=twi5708u; server=postoffice.uri.edu X-Mailer: Mulberry (Win32) [1.4.5, s/n P005-300797-005] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Good news for Heide. I thought I would share some good news. > > Alec > >>> Heide: >>> >>> I saw your scan from 10/25. There is no evidence of any >>> residual or recurrent tumor (good) > > alec > This is awesome! Congratulations to you both. And may it remain so! Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 1 08:31:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA1EVU6q017844 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 08:31:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B877D1E601B0; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 08:27:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 860E61E601A5 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 08:27:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2C187@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 9:20:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14219062 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 09:20:42 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA1EKga30534 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 09:20:42 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA1EKe2f020292 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 06:20:40 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA1EKdJC020273; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 06:20:39 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031101062205.00a52840@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2003 06:22:29 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: HB Adam and Theo In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031031223848.04026388@mail.istori.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77669@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:15 AM 11/1/2003 -0800, Peter Kaminski wrote: .Irrigation en carrousel, Jordanie (photo) >http://www.notre-planete.info/images/compteurimages.php?id=405&rep=paysages > >Pete Terry, here are your crop circles! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 1 08:47:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA1El16q017984 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 08:47:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DC3C81E601B0; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 08:43:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA3D91E601AC for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 08:43:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2C196@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 9:36:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14219365 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 09:36:13 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA1EaCa31826 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 09:36:13 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA1EaBMW028021 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 06:36:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FA3C496.20304@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2003 08:35:02 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Halloween with Ana References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031031160934.00a5bec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031031185415.00a2b2f0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU You are a staunch person, Betty. Yesserrrrri. The sacrifices that must be made. Betty wrote: > You should send it to me so I can radiate it. Make sure there are no razor > blades, etc. Of course I'll return it all promptly. > > Betty > > At 08:49 PM 10/31/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > >> Thanks ;). I'm eating some of her candy right now -- just >> the good stuff. Mom's rights. >> >> Betty Clark wrote: >> >>> And she is gorgeous. I wanted to see the candy bowl, too. :-) >>> >>> Betty >>> >>> At 05:16 PM 10/31/2003 -0600, you wrote: >>> >>>> We're getting ready to go trick or treating and to the >>>> haunted hay ride behind the house. Ana is preparing her >>>> jokes, the pumpkin is glowing, and my absolutely hugest bowl >>>> is full of candy. Happy Halloween :). >>>> >>>> http://www.etext.org/~rita/halloween03.html >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Rita Rouvalis Chapman >>>> rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org >>>> http://www.etext.org/~rita >>> >> >> >> -- >> Rita Rouvalis Chapman >> rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org >> http://www.etext.org/~rita >> > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 1 11:59:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA1Hxk6q019518 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 11:59:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C51881E601C5; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 11:55:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 968CC1E601C4 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 11:55:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2C3BA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 12:48:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14224424 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 12:48:57 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA1Hmua15875 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 12:48:57 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA1HmtIf010594 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 11:48:56 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 11:49:15 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <492960208.20031101114915@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Survivor Q MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I managed to turn on my VCR late, so all I saw was the two tribal councils. Why did you say that Jeff was mad, Bonnie? At Osten? Or something else? Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 1 12:05:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA1I5k6q019614 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 12:05:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 042DA1E601C4; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 12:01:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C74C31E601C0 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 12:01:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2C3BA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 12:54:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14224547 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 12:54:56 -0500 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA1Hsua16270 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 12:54:56 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.138.272b20a3 (4320) for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 12:54:46 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <138.272b20a3.2cd54d66@aol.com> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 12:54:46 EST Subject: Re: Thanks To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/31/2003 8:31:56 PM, adamh1@COMCAST.NET writes: >Thanks for all the HB greetings. :) > >From me too. Had a great day with lotsa goodies. Not to forget the beautiful new printer from my youngest! :-) Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 1 12:22:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA1IM16q019716 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 12:22:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3A3C21E601C8; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 12:18:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BD0B1E601C7 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 12:18:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2C400@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 13:11:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14225014 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 13:11:05 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA1IB5a17862 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 13:11:05 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-73.gwi.net [216.195.151.73]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA1IB3Ar010702 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 13:11:04 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031101130709.00b9e158@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2003 13:11:16 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Survivor Q In-Reply-To: <492960208.20031101114915@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Yes, I thought Jeff was really pissed off that someone wanted to leave. The way he said "go home" was pretty telling. He didn't even bother to take the vote. And then his comment about "people work too hard to get here and to stay here..." If you only saw the end, then you missed that they brought back the six people already voted off. They were a third tribe called The Outcasts. That tribe of voted off people won the immunity challenge. So each of the other tribes had to vote one person off at back-to-back councils and then The Outcasts will have a tribal council in which two of the six members would be voted back onto the island. Did you get a job, Karen? Some consulting work?? I hope you are alright and I wish you would come back to words-l for more than a question now and then. >I managed to turn on my VCR late, so all I saw was the two tribal >councils. Why did you say that Jeff was mad, Bonnie? At Osten? Or >something else? > >Karen, >Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 1 12:23:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA1IN66q019721 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 12:23:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9FA061E601C7; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 12:19:19 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70AC91E601BD for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 12:19:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2C3EA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 13:12:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14225062 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 13:12:17 -0500 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA1ICHa17970 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 13:12:17 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.194.20bf7a31 (4320) for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 13:12:06 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <194.20bf7a31.2cd55176@aol.com> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 13:12:06 EST Subject: Re: Halloween with Ana To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/31/2003 9:04:10 PM, rouvalis@SWBELL.NET writes: >> It's a toss up as to which is prettier - the lovely blonde or the >> scrumptious blue dress! >> Ran it off on my new printer, BEAUTIFUL both !! :-) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 1 12:56:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA1IuM6q020101 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 12:56:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 788721E601CA; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 12:52:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4734B1E601C7 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 12:52:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2C448@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 13:45:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14225787 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 13:45:33 -0500 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA1IjWa21498 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 13:45:32 -0500 Received: from [66.20.150.238] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 01 Nov 2003 10:45:32 PST Message-ID: <20031101184532.78180.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 10:45:32 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Survivor Q To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <492960208.20031101114915@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > I managed to turn on my VCR late, so all I saw was > the two tribal > councils. Why did you say that Jeff was mad, Bonnie? > At Osten? Or > something else? Not mad, just drunk. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 1 13:38:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA1JcB6q020529 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 13:38:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 887D71E60279; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 13:34:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59A9B1E601C9 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 13:34:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2C4A8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 14:27:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14226748 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 14:27:21 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA1JRKa24779 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 14:27:20 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA1JRJYB001875 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 13:27:20 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 13:27:41 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1103720878.20031101132741@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Survivor Q In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031101130709.00b9e158@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031101130709.00b9e158@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 01, 2003, bonniev wrote: > Yes, I thought Jeff was really pissed off that someone wanted to > leave. The way he said "go home" was pretty telling. He didn't even > bother to take the vote. And then his comment about "people work too hard > to get here and to stay here..." I didn't get 'really pissed off'. He did have to make this point, though, because having everyone give up would be bad television. > I hope you are alright and I wish you would come back to words-l for > more than a question now and then. Thank you. I'm fine. Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 1 14:22:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA1KMi6q021024 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 14:22:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2363C1E60193; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 14:18:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5D381E6017C for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 14:18:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2C4FC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 15:11:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14227721 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 15:11:53 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA1KBra28093 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 15:11:53 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA1KBqhQ013410 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 14:11:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 14:12:13 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <48362833.20031101141213@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Help a linguist MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From another list: My name is Florian Wolf; I am a graduate student in Ted Gibson's lab, Department of Brain and Cognitive Sciences, MIT. I am looking for participants for a reading study. The study is available online, at http://web.mit.edu/fwolf/www/sentence-ranking-experiment/ The study aims to investigate how people determine the structure of written texts; specifically, the goal is to investigate how people determine which parts of a text are important and which are less important. It would be great if some of you could participate in my study; the only requirement is that participants should be native speakers of English (English should be the first language you learned as a child). Please feel free to forward this email to anyone who might be interested. Thank you very much in advance for your valuable time, Florian Wolf From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 1 15:18:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA1LIJ6q021504 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 15:18:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CC4241E60282; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 15:14:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 991481E601A1 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 15:14:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2C5B2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 16:07:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14229263 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 16:07:28 -0500 Received: from web20515.mail.yahoo.com (web20515.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.232.184]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA1L7Ra32539 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 16:07:28 -0500 Received: from [66.20.150.238] by web20515.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 01 Nov 2003 13:07:27 PST Message-ID: <20031101210727.4795.qmail@web20515.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 13:07:27 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Help a linguist To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <48362833.20031101141213@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > From another list: > > My name is Florian Wolf; I am a graduate student in > Ted Gibson's lab, > Department of Brain and Cognitive Sciences, MIT. > > I am looking for participants for a reading study. > The study is > available online, at > > http://web.mit.edu/fwolf/www/sentence-ranking-experiment/ Very interesting indeed. Wonder if the results will be available anywhere? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 1 15:55:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA1LtI6q021930 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 15:55:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4CDC61E60284; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 15:51:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D5B11E601D9 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 15:51:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2C5E7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 16:44:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14230137 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 16:44:27 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA1LiRa03346 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 16:44:27 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA1LiPYB015289 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 15:44:27 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 15:44:40 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <665488314.20031101154440@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Help a linguist In-Reply-To: <20031101210727.4795.qmail@web20515.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031101210727.4795.qmail@web20515.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 01, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Karen Kay wrote: >> From another list: >> >> My name is Florian Wolf; I am a graduate student in >> Ted Gibson's lab, >> Department of Brain and Cognitive Sciences, MIT. >> >> I am looking for participants for a reading study. >> The study is >> available online, at >> >> > http://web.mit.edu/fwolf/www/sentence-ranking-experiment/ > Very interesting indeed. Wonder if the results will > be available anywhere? Duh. If you click the URL, you will see "If you would like to receive a report of the results of this study, you may request them from fwolf@mit.edu." It's the second sentence, right after the one thanking people for participating in the study. Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 1 15:58:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA1LwL6q021983 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 15:58:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6416D1E60282; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 15:54:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 350F61E601D9 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 15:54:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2C605@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 16:47:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14230176 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 16:47:30 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA1LlUa03603 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 16:47:30 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001CB56A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 16:47:30 -0500 Message-Id: <200311012147.hA1LlUa03603@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 16:47:30 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Help a linguist To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 15:44:40 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Saturday, November 01, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >> --- Karen Kay wrote: >>> From another list: >>> >>> My name is Florian Wolf; I am a graduate student in >>> Ted Gibson's lab, >>> Department of Brain and Cognitive Sciences, MIT. >>> >>> I am looking for participants for a reading study. >>> The study is >>> available online, at >>> >>> >> http://web.mit.edu/fwolf/www/sentence-ranking-experiment/ > >> Very interesting indeed. Wonder if the results will >> be available anywhere? > >Duh. If you click the URL, you will see "If you would like to receive >a report of the results of this study, you may request them from >fwolf@mit.edu." > >It's the second sentence, right after the one thanking people for >participating in the study. > >Karen, >Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... Hey, Karen! How's your Saturday? Even without the study, it's an interesting concept. How do you decide what's important to read? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 1 19:00:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA210n6q009793 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 19:00:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 72D411E60284; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 18:56:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 415D91E601F5 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 18:56:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2C7FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 19:49:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14235316 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 19:49:56 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA20nua18150 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 19:49:56 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.170.99]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031102004951.GAEP1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 19:49:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA454AF.416F8F78@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2003 18:49:51 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: You can be interesting again Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU But don't rush to be interesting. I turned mail back on a couple of hours ago but am still way behind in everything and won't get back into full swing right away. I haven't even cleaned out the piles of spam yet. The party honoring our aged former principal was good. And our class has contributed just under $50,000 so far to our high school in his name. That figure is still growing. The party was smallish but was fun. I just dumped some pictures online for my classmates: http://www.msstate.edu/Archives/Words-L/Murrah/Bash03/ Will tell later about my visit to my old elementary school yesterday. I just pranced right up and walked in the door and had a wonderful time in spite of its jail-like nature -- half of it is an alternative school now, the other half an adult-ed thing. More later. I'm horribly behind in everything. Haven't had a chance yet to see whether my Survivor tape worked. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 1 20:35:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA22ZV6q011298 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 20:35:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6A6371E6027A; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 20:31:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38DF81E601DC for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 20:31:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2C87B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:24:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14236826 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:24:38 -0500 Received: from web20515.mail.yahoo.com (web20515.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.232.184]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA22Oca25166 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:24:38 -0500 Received: from [66.20.150.238] by web20515.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 01 Nov 2003 18:24:37 PST Message-ID: <20031102022437.75555.qmail@web20515.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 18:24:37 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: You can be interesting again To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FA454AF.416F8F78@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > But don't rush to be interesting. I turned mail > back on a couple of > hours ago but am still way behind in everything and > won't get back into > full swing right away. I haven't even cleaned out > the piles of spam > yet. Natalie, thank goodness you're back. I fear we've been "Left Behind". Of course, that leaves plenty of leeway for all sorts of mischief. Btw, nice pictures and nice party. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 1 20:50:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA22oa6q011352 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 20:50:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9B9051E6027A; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 20:46:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69DD71E60242 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 20:46:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2C8B9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:39:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14237204 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:39:42 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA22dfa26544 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:39:41 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.170.99]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031102023936.JRXL1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:39:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA46E68.384A0551@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2003 20:39:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Wow Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Just as you think Jeff et al have run out of new tricks, they surprise you! (My Survivor tape worked fine.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 1 20:51:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA22px6q011357 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 20:51:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EBD6E1E60285; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 20:48:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCF921E60242 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 20:48:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2C8BA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:41:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14237211 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:41:06 -0500 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA22f5a26617 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:41:06 -0500 Received: from [66.20.150.238] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 01 Nov 2003 18:41:05 PST Message-ID: <20031102024105.53667.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 18:41:05 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Q of Hours Results To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thank you to all meebers who participated in the recent survey, Q of Hours. The results prove that, once again, I was wrong, wrong, wrong. The rest of the country outside of the sucky South does NOT work 9-5, but 8-5, or similar variations thereon. Thank you, as well, Espen, for the international input. To show my appreciation, I am arranging to have participating meebers' names inscribed on certificates, which will then be "steered" around in a 55-gal. oil drum with a rake handle, that is, they will be lotterized. A winning certificate will be drawn by an anonymous member of monstertrucks.com. The winner will have a choice between a MSN critical cumulative patch for November, delivered directly to his/her mail box, or a 48 hour supply of that product known as the "Thirty Minute Wonder". Time and date of drawing to be announced. Thank you again. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 1 20:57:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA22vJ6q011384 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 20:57:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7549D1E601DC; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 20:53:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43C701E60286 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 20:53:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2C8A9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:46:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14237298 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:46:26 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA22kQa26908 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:46:26 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-73.gwi.net [216.195.151.73]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA22kOGn012694 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:46:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031101214555.03802008@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2003 21:46:38 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Wow In-Reply-To: <3FA46E68.384A0551@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Yes! Wasn't it great? And I loved how Jeff told the guy "go home". He sounded mightily annoyed to me. >Just as you think Jeff et al have run out of new tricks, they surprise >you! (My Survivor tape worked fine.) >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 1 20:59:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA22xS6q011412 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 20:59:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F13B61E60242; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 20:54:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C11E11E601DC for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 20:54:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001CB875@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:47:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14237313 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:47:25 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA22lOa26982 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:47:24 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.170.99]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031102024718.JTUA1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:47:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA47037.1B0F693A@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2003 20:47:19 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: You can be interesting again References: <20031102022437.75555.qmail@web20515.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Natalie, thank goodness you're back. I fear we've > been "Left Behind". Ahh. The Rapture. Not to worry. I'll be here. > Of course, that leaves plenty of > leeway for all sorts of mischief. But it won't be as much fun without all those ratpured sorts. > Btw, nice pictures and nice party. The party was fun. None of these people were my good friends in hs. Or none except one. Mary Jane was in my close crowd. And some of the others were fairly good church friends of mine. Most, though, were just acquaintances. (I'm talking about the people present at this party. The class gift included lots more people, as did our reunion summer before last -- the reunion was huge -- all of my best friends were there.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 1 21:05:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA235R6q011443 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:05:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2EA601E6028B; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:01:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 009AB1E6028A for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:01:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001CB85F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:54:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14237497 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:54:34 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA22sYa27751 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:54:34 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.170.99]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031102025428.JVHP1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:54:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA471E5.1E5FC3FB@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2003 20:54:29 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Q of Hours Results References: <20031102024105.53667.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > Thank you to all meebers who participated in the > recent survey, Q of Hours. The results prove that, > once again, I was wrong, wrong, wrong. The rest of > the country outside of the sucky South does NOT work > 9-5, but 8-5, or similar variations thereon. This is obviously something I missed while on nomail. Exactly what are we talking about? I think of 8-5 as work hours, with an hour off for lunch. As in those are the hours of people who work in offices, etc. Obviously there are many people who work odd hours -- like night shifts or even some in university offices (e.g., there are some secretaries at MSU who ask to work 7-4 instead of 8-5 for whatever reasons). But I thought it was somewhat a that normal working hours were 8-5. Normal for the business world, I mean. I realize that stores are different. They start later in the morning and work into the night. I hate that pattern. I would have perhaps padded some store pockets with money by buying some things from them this morning in Jackson if they had opened at a reasonable hour. But they all seemed to open at 10:00, so I said screw it and came home. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 1 21:07:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA237p6q011454 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:07:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4F1EA1E6028A; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:04:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2171D1E60242 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:04:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2C8CF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:56:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14237595 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:56:58 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA22uwa28096 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:56:58 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.170.99]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031102025653.JVUM1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:56:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA47275.EDD989BC@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2003 20:56:53 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Wow References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031101214555.03802008@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > Yes! Wasn't it great? And I loved how Jeff told the guy "go home". He > sounded mightily annoyed to me. Osten? I don't know whether Jeff was annoyed. He might have liked the oddity of it -- of an out-n-out dropout. I wonder whether Osten did that out of total honesty (he might have) or out of figuring out that he was surely going to be the next voted off (which surely he would've been). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 1 21:15:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA23Fv6q011547 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:15:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 153271E6028B; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:12:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB7011E60242 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:12:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2C8ED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:05:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14237840 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:05:04 -0500 Received: from web20515.mail.yahoo.com (web20515.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.232.184]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA2354a28844 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:05:04 -0500 Received: from [66.20.150.238] by web20515.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 01 Nov 2003 19:05:03 PST Message-ID: <20031102030503.83277.qmail@web20515.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 19:05:03 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Q of Hours Results To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FA471E5.1E5FC3FB@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU But I thought it was somewhat a > that normal working > hours were 8-5. Normal for the business world, I > mean. I realize that > stores are different. They start later in the > morning and work into the > night. I hate that pattern. I would have perhaps > padded some store > pockets with money by buying some things from them > this morning in > Jackson if they had opened at a reasonable hour. > But they all seemed to > open at 10:00, so I said screw it and came home. Yes, that was it, just talking about normal office hours for clerical folk. I surmise that my thinking was colored by the movie or recording "Nine to Five", hence the confusion in my mind. Meebers were indeed most helpful. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 1 21:20:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA23KO6q011584 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:20:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 18BEA1E60242; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:16:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCFF61E601E8 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:16:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2C8F3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:09:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14237906 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:09:31 -0500 Received: from web20513.mail.yahoo.com (web20513.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA239Va29056 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:09:31 -0500 Received: from [66.20.150.238] by web20513.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 01 Nov 2003 19:09:30 PST Message-ID: <20031102030930.67661.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 19:09:30 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Wow To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FA47275.EDD989BC@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Osten? I don't know whether Jeff was annoyed. He > might have liked the > oddity of it -- of an out-n-out dropout. I wonder > whether Osten did > that out of total honesty (he might have) or out of > figuring out that he > was surely going to be the next voted off (which > surely he would've > been). I saw the last 20 minutes or so. Why should Jeff be annoyed? Is he an executive producer? And it seems to me Osten's leaving provides more of a hook, as far as the audience goes. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 1 21:26:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA23Qq6q011648 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:26:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 61E3B1E6028B; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:23:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 329E01E601E8 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:23:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2C8EC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:15:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14237986 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:15:58 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA23Fwa29365 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:15:58 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.170.99]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031102031553.RJX1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:15:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA476E9.930444CC@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2003 21:15:53 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Q of Hours Results References: <20031102030503.83277.qmail@web20515.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Yes, that was it, just talking about normal office > hours for clerical folk. I surmise that my thinking > was colored by the movie or recording "Nine to Five", > hence the confusion in my mind. Meebers were indeed > most helpful. I remember wondering about that movie title -- wondering who worked 9-5 since I had always thought that 8-5 was . I remember thinking that maybe it had to do with Eastern Time since everything seems to happen later there. But then I wondered why it wasn't 9-6 if it was just a matter of being later. I always thought that movie title was odd since I had never heard of any office worker going in at 9 instead of 8. Did Meebers offer explanations while I was on nomail? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 1 21:29:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA23TY6q011681 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:29:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7848F1E6028E; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:25:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AC251E6028A for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:25:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2C8EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:18:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14237994 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:18:03 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA23I2a29461 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:18:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.170.99]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031102031757.SAK1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:17:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA47765.BE95D14@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2003 21:17:57 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Wow References: <20031102030930.67661.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > And it seems to me Osten's leaving provides more of a > hook, as far as the audience goes. I dunno. I'd been thinking for a good while that Osten needed to be the next to go from that tribe. He was contributing little. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 1 21:37:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA23br6q011848 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:37:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 43CD31E601E9; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:34:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15F991E601E8 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:34:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2C913@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:27:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14238124 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:27:00 -0500 Received: from web20516.mail.yahoo.com (web20516.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.232.185]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA23R0a30074 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:27:00 -0500 Received: from [66.20.150.238] by web20516.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 01 Nov 2003 19:26:59 PST Message-ID: <20031102032659.60332.qmail@web20516.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 19:26:59 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Q of Hours Results To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FA476E9.930444CC@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Did Meebers offer explanations while I was on > nomail? > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Yes. Most of their observations were that 8-5 was most common. Some had lunch hours, some lunch breaks. Some are paid for lunch, but not many. I believe Espen said 8:30-3:30. I work 8-5 with one unpaid hour for lunch. I'm always there by 7:15, however - force of habit. As you say, with stores, it can be any combination, and I wish they'd open earlier, as well. But I also remember a time when all banks and downtown businesses were open only one half day on Wednesdays. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 1 21:39:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA23do6q011894 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:39:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 69D1A1E6028C; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:35:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AC5C1E601E9 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:35:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2C917@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:28:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14238178 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:28:56 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA23Sua30244 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:28:56 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.170.99]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031102032851.HJJA1849.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:28:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA479F3.BA3651BD@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2003 21:28:51 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Q of Hours Results References: <20031102024105.53667.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> <3FA471E5.1E5FC3FB@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > pockets with money by buying some things from them this morning in > Jackson if they had opened at a reasonable hour. But they all seemed to ^^^^^^^ > open at 10:00, so I said screw it and came home. ^^^^^^^^^ I don't always read the postings I've sent, but for some reason I read this one. And I am struck by something that is personally significant, though obviously not significant to anybody else, which makes me wonder why I'm writing this except that y'all are my friends and somehow one just kind of says things to friends. "Home" to me has always meant Jackson, even after I had no family left there. I thought it still did. I don't know quite what to make of my having said "came home" FROM Jackson. I need to ponder this. (I do know that my hometown is Jackson. Was, Is, Always Will Be. How could it not be?) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 1 21:41:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA23fY6q011915 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:41:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 613301E6028A; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:37:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3382C1E60285 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:37:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001CB8D1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:30:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14238253 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:30:40 -0500 Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com (web20502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA23Uea30469 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:30:40 -0500 Received: from [66.20.150.238] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 01 Nov 2003 19:30:39 PST Message-ID: <20031102033039.15427.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 19:30:39 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Wow To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FA47765.BE95D14@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I dunno. I'd been thinking for a good while that > Osten needed to be the > next to go from that tribe. He was contributing > little. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) What will be the criteria for replacing him? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 1 21:46:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA23kE6q011955 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:46:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0073A1E6028C; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:42:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B5F1E6028A for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:42:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2C922@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:35:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14238300 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:35:21 -0500 Received: from web20501.mail.yahoo.com (web20501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.136]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA23ZKa30886 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:35:21 -0500 Received: from [66.20.150.238] by web20501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 01 Nov 2003 19:35:20 PST Message-ID: <20031102033520.58716.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 19:35:20 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Q of Hours Results To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FA479F3.BA3651BD@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: "Home" to me > has always meant > Jackson, even after I had no family left there. I > thought it still > did. I don't know quite what to make of my having > said "came home" FROM > Jackson. I need to ponder this. (I do know that my > hometown is > Jackson. Was, Is, Always Will Be. How could it not > be?) If you could pinpoint it in your mind as to when you first consciously thought or said that, you would have the answer. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 1 21:47:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA23ln6q011986 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:47:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A28761E60285; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:43:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 753161E601EB for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:43:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001CB8D1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:36:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14238313 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:36:56 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA23ata30968 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:36:55 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.170.99]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031102033650.HKVY1849.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:36:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA47BD2.C0489499@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2003 21:36:50 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Q of Hours Results References: <20031102032659.60332.qmail@web20516.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > I work 8-5 with one unpaid hour > for lunch. I'm always there by 7:15, however - force > of habit. I think people who care about their work do tend to go early or stay late, at least some of the time. But I find it odd that your lunch hour is unpaid time. You're paid by the hour? That seems odd to me. I think of positions like yours as being paid paid with a monthly salary that assumed you worked eight hours a day with one of those eight hours being a lunch hour. > As you say, with stores, it can be any combination, > and I wish they'd open earlier, as well. But I also > remember a time when all banks and downtown businesses > were open only one half day on Wednesdays. Ah yes -- I remember when banks in Starkville closed at something like 3:00 and when hardware stores weren't open on Saturday afternoons, the main time ordinary people might want their services. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 1 21:55:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA23ts6q012057 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:55:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5AA071E60285; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:52:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CA271E60284 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:52:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2C923@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:45:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14238441 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:45:00 -0500 Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA23j0a31447 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:45:00 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.a3.4b52ce62 (2612) for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:44:53 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:44:53 EST Subject: Re: Q of Hours Results To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/1/2003 9:16:09 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >since I had never heard of any office worker going in at 9 instead of 8. > The Dutch always worked (in my days) from 9-5. But I worked nightshift in this country. Pays better when you have to support 3 children! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 1 21:56:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA23uK6q012062 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:56:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9B11B1E6028A; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:52:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A97D1E60285 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:52:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2C924@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:45:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14238453 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:45:27 -0500 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA23jQa31537 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:45:26 -0500 Received: from [66.20.150.238] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 01 Nov 2003 19:45:26 PST Message-ID: <20031102034526.2502.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 19:45:26 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Q of Hours Results To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FA47BD2.C0489499@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > I think people who care about their work do tend to > go early or stay > late, at least some of the time. But I find it odd > that your lunch hour > is unpaid time. You're paid by the hour? That > seems odd to me. I > think of positions like yours as being paid paid > with a monthly salary > that assumed you worked eight hours a day with one > of those eight hours > being a lunch hour. If they paid us for lunch hours, that would be 45 hrs./week. In unclassified positions, according to DOG regs., anything over 40 hrs. must be paid at time and a half. Thus, unpaid lunch hours :-{ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 1 21:58:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA23w06q012092 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:58:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E1C271E60285; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:54:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3E191E60284 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:54:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2C91B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:47:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14238507 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:47:07 -0500 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA23l7a31809 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:47:07 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.14a.262c76c0 (2612) for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:46:55 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <14a.262c76c0.2cd5d82f@aol.com> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:46:55 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Q of Hours Results To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/1/2003 9:45:48 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << In unclassified positions, according to DOG regs., anything over 40 hrs. must be paid at time and a half. >> At Sears, it's 56 hours per week to get overtime. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Winston Zeddemore: "If there's a steady paycheck in it, I'll believe anything you say." From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 1 21:58:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA23wo6q012112 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:58:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AA7421E6028A; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:54:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CBA91E60285 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:54:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2C92C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:47:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14238526 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:47:57 -0500 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA23lua31873 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:47:56 -0500 Received: from [66.20.150.238] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 01 Nov 2003 19:47:56 PST Message-ID: <20031102034756.33831.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 19:47:56 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Q of Hours Results To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Theo Groothof wrote: > The Dutch always worked (in my days) from 9-5. But I > worked nightshift in > this country. Pays better when you have to support 3 > children! > Theo With us, there are no shift differentials. There is bonus money for a degree or associate degree, as well as some credit for military service, and/or service at another LE agency. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 1 22:04:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA244k6q012201 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:04:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 74C771E6028E; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:00:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 472351E60285 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:00:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2C94F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:53:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14238810 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:53:52 -0500 Received: from web20509.mail.yahoo.com (web20509.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.144]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA23rqa32530 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:53:52 -0500 Received: from [66.20.150.238] by web20509.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 01 Nov 2003 19:53:51 PST Message-ID: <20031102035351.65568.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 19:53:51 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Q of Hours Results To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <14a.262c76c0.2cd5d82f@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > At Sears, it's 56 hours per week to get overtime. I'm not a bit surprised, but I wonder how they get away with it. Even police officers only have to work in excess of 171 hours in a 28-day cycle before they get overtime. Must be a loop-hole somewhere, because DOL is strident regarding compliance. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 1 22:08:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA248Z6q012272 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:08:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5BD061E60285; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:04:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2698F1E60222 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:04:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2C974@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:57:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14239115 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:57:41 -0500 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA23vfa00657 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:57:41 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.186.213ecf8f (2612) for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:57:35 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <186.213ecf8f.2cd5daaf@aol.com> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:57:35 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Q of Hours Results To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/1/2003 9:54:08 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << I'm not a bit surprised, but I wonder how they get away with it. >> Well, I've always believed that commission sales is the modern form of indentured servitude. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Winston Zeddemore: "If there's a steady paycheck in it, I'll believe anything you say." From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 1 22:10:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA24Ax6q012279 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:10:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F21E61E60285; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:07:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA5631E60222 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:07:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001CB963@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 23:00:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14239594 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 23:00:06 -0500 Received: from web20513.mail.yahoo.com (web20513.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA2402a01030 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 23:00:03 -0500 Received: from [66.20.150.238] by web20513.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 01 Nov 2003 20:00:02 PST Message-ID: <20031102040002.74505.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 20:00:02 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Q of Hours Results To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <186.213ecf8f.2cd5daaf@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > In a message dated 11/1/2003 9:54:08 PM Central > Standard Time, > lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: > << > I'm not a bit surprised, but I wonder how they get > away with it. > >> > > Well, I've always believed that commission sales is > the > modern form of indentured servitude. Ha! I couldn't agree more! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 1 22:16:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA24Gs6q012322 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:16:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0535D1E60291; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:13:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA32E1E60290 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:13:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2CB0D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 23:06:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14242167 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 23:06:00 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA2460a02446 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 23:06:00 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA245xW1027931 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 20:05:59 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA245uWq027890; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 20:05:56 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031101200702.00a3d4c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2003 20:07:46 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Q of Hours Results In-Reply-To: <20031102040002.74505.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> References: <186.213ecf8f.2cd5daaf@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:00 PM 11/1/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >Ha! I couldn't agree more! Does that mean you agree? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 1 23:37:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA25bt6q013205 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 23:37:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2CBA01E60290; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 23:34:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F21661E60277 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 23:34:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2CD7C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 2 Nov 2003 0:27:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14247023 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 00:27:01 -0500 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA25R1a10023 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 00:27:01 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.153.2633a1e6 (2612) for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 00:26:54 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <153.2633a1e6.2cd5ef9d@aol.com> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 00:26:53 EST Subject: Re: Q of Hours Results To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/1/2003 9:48:14 PM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: >With us, there are no shift differentials. There is >bonus money for a degree or associate degree, as well >as some credit for military service, and/or service at >another LE agency. > This was a British company, and they paid more for nights. I have no idea what the norm is, because this was my only job here. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 2 01:20:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA27KM6q014197 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 01:20:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2504A1E60298; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 01:16:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB2B1E60296 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 01:16:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2CEDC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 2 Nov 2003 2:09:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14248938 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 02:09:27 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA26xRa16058 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 01:59:27 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA26wqKE002909 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Sun, 2 Nov 2003 01:58:52 -0500 Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 01:59:27 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Memphis, NWA, HS etc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I was scheduled through Memphis, but at the last minute got switched to USAir, so flew to Charlotte before flying to Little Rck. USAir planes are less and less comfortable. (But at least they still serve Diet Coke instead of P****-C***, like NWA). Hot Springs was fab. I had slightly fewer than 24 hours there - I got there in time for my bath/massage appt., which was incredible. The bath area looks like a torture chamber, and it is staffed by highly competent young women who bark orders to individuals rather like USMC DIs - but they get the job done: whirlpool, scrub, steam room, warm shower, hot towels, massage. I was LIMP afterwards. ANd incredibly relaxed. I had the seafood buffet and hit the sack. But I was so inspired by the experience that after breakfast this a.m., I hit the fitness room for my first real cardio workout for a while. Then I went to one paper, had a light lunch, chaired my session (excellent papers, one about cybercommunities), got the last shuttle to LR, read 3 newspapers, had dinner, flew home. (Home is where I live, not where I used to live.) Bedtime! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 2 06:37:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA2Cbk6q017127 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 06:37:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CACF71E60299; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 06:33:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D25E1E60221 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 06:33:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2D103@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 2 Nov 2003 7:26:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14215640 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 07:26:49 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA2CQna08938 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 07:26:49 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.172]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031102122643.MRJP1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 07:26:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA4F803.89993D95@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 06:26:43 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Wow References: <20031102033039.15427.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > > I dunno. I'd been thinking for a good while that > > Osten needed to be the > > next to go from that tribe. He was contributing > > little. > > What will be the criteria for replacing him? I'm not sure what you mean. Are we talking about how the Outcasts are going to decide who to send back in? That is how it's going to work, right? They make that decision? It wasn't clear to me whether the people sent back in will be sent back to the tribes that ousted them or whether a former Drake might be sent to Morgan. Was that mentioned? I'm guessing it will be going back to your same tribe since otherwise it wouldn't be as interesting -- as awkward, etc., which is presumably a large part of the point. I hope the Boy Scout woman doesn't rejoin. I was tired of her. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 2 06:42:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA2Cgw6q017219 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 06:42:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F21E31E60299; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 06:39:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFB251E6021D for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 06:39:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2D0FF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 2 Nov 2003 7:32:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14215718 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 07:32:00 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA2CW0a09219 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 07:32:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.172]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031102123155.MSDM1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 07:31:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA4F93B.18AF0A33@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 06:31:55 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Q of Hours Results References: <20031102034526.2502.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > If they paid us for lunch hours, that would be 45 > hrs./week. In unclassified positions, according to > DOG regs., anything over 40 hrs. must be paid at time > and a half. Thus, unpaid lunch hours :-{ Hmm. I may have simply assumed erroneously that MSU staff have paid lunch hours. It may well be the same situation as yours. Just as I've always thought of 8-5 as normal working hours, I've always thought of an 8-hr workday as the norm. But 8-5 = 9 hours. Cafeteria workers have paid lunch time, though -- and free lunch. I know that from talking to the son of some friends of mine about his new job in the cafeteria. It's a punch-in/punch-out job, as in a timeclock, but eating the free lunch takes place between the punching in and punching out. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 2 06:50:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA2CoR6q017270 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 06:50:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 326AF1E60299; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 06:46:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00DAA1E6021D for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 06:46:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2D0FE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 2 Nov 2003 7:39:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14215837 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 07:39:30 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA2CdTa09547 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 07:39:29 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.172]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031102123924.MTEE1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 07:39:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA4FAFC.5A5988AE@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 06:39:24 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Memphis, NWA, HS etc. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I thought you were going to fly from LR to Hburg. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l*words-l**GTOAL*-COM@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 2 07:18:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA2DIW6q017525 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 07:18:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 60FAF1E60299; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 07:14:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3366C1E60225 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 07:14:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2D156@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 2 Nov 2003 8:07:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14216342 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 08:07:28 -0500 Received: from 12.240.187.13 (12-240-187-13.client.attbi.com [12.240.187.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA2CvMa10550 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 07:57:23 -0500 Message-Id: <200311021257.hA2CvMa10550@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 06:55:33 -0600 From: 240274@mail.com X-Mailer: AspMail 3.53 (SMTP6F169C) Reply-To: 240274@excite.com Organization: 683308133 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: The 30 Hour Wonder! 51004126 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Cyalus comes in smaller doses and produces fewer side effects. 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More info http://www.hostvy.com/ 64F4862-20114E33-47CEBBFE-3C96E1E7-47E3B04E 2FE68808-229C9B8F-5A715232-4A30ECAB-15B04B9D 1E4A314D-6C61857B-7DEA82AA-653AC20E-1D6D1E56 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 2 08:40:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA2Eec6q018273 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 08:40:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 24C351E60226; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 08:36:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E78A11E60223 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 08:36:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001CC107@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 2 Nov 2003 9:29:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14217874 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 09:29:40 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA2ETda16076 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 09:29:39 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA2ETcEa006494 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 06:29:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FA5148C.2040505@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 08:28:28 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Q of Hours Results References: <153.2633a1e6.2cd5ef9d@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > In a message dated 11/1/2003 9:48:14 PM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: > > >>With us, there are no shift differentials. There is >>bonus money for a degree or associate degree, as well >>as some credit for military service, and/or service at >>another LE agency. >> >> > This was a British company, and they paid more for nights. > I have no idea what the norm is, because this was my only job here. They're just cheap. My dad worked third shift for 25 years for the differential. My brother does the same thing. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 2 09:05:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA2F5S6q018464 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 09:05:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B5C6E1E60299; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 09:01:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86FA31E60226 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 09:01:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2D20B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 2 Nov 2003 9:54:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14218126 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 09:54:30 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA2EiUa17225 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 09:44:30 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA2EhqKE011666 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 09:43:53 -0500 Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 09:44:26 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Memphis, NWA, HS etc. In-Reply-To: <3FA4FAFC.5A5988AE@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FA4FAFC.5A5988AE@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I thought you were going to fly from LR to Hburg. That was option 1. But with a lawsuit there is always a possibility of settlement right up to the courthouse steps (and even inside), so I decided that it would be prudent to return home. Also, I decided that I could not - even with guest speakers - miss 3 consecutive class days. So my HS trip became Fri-Sat instead of Thurs-Sun. I leave for H. on Tuesday - if the case has not settled. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 2 09:05:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA2F5n6q018468 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 09:05:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 64E9D1E6029C; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 09:01:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 359261E60299 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 09:01:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2D20C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 2 Nov 2003 9:54:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14218358 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 09:54:51 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA2Espa18081 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 09:54:51 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001CC137@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 2 Nov 2003 9:54:50 -0500 Message-Id: <200311021454.hA2Espa18081@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 09:54:51 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Q of Hours Results To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:15:53 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Lynne Weber wrote: > >> Yes, that was it, just talking about normal office >> hours for clerical folk. I surmise that my thinking >> was colored by the movie or recording "Nine to Five", >> hence the confusion in my mind. Meebers were indeed >> most helpful. > >I remember wondering about that movie title -- wondering who worked 9-5 >since I had always thought that 8-5 was . I remember thinking >that maybe it had to do with Eastern Time since everything seems to >happen later there. But then I wondered why it wasn't 9-6 if it was >just a matter of being later. I always thought that movie title was odd >since I had never heard of any office worker going in at 9 instead of 8. IME, some professional offices don't open till 9 and their employees work the office hours - hence, 9-5. If you work a straight 8, you get a paid 1/2 hr. lunch. If you work 8-5, you get an hr unpaid for lunch in the middle. I've worked both at different places. >Did Meebers offer explanations while I was on nomail? No. She asked the question without context, so no explanation was really indicated. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 2 09:08:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA2F8n6q018499 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 09:08:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2CB7F1E60226; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 09:04:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E62B71E6022D for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 09:04:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2D218@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 2 Nov 2003 9:57:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14218475 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 09:57:51 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA2Evpa18508 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 09:57:51 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001CC140@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 2 Nov 2003 9:57:50 -0500 Message-Id: <200311021457.hA2Evpa18508@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 09:57:50 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Q of Hours Results To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 20:00:02 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Evelyn Duncan wrote: >> In a message dated 11/1/2003 9:54:08 PM Central >> Standard Time, >> lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: >> << >> I'm not a bit surprised, but I wonder how they get >> away with it. >> >> >> >> Well, I've always believed that commission sales is >> the >> modern form of indentured servitude. > >Ha! I couldn't agree more! > And is programming the modern form of ditchdigging? Your thoughts, please. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 2 10:02:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA2G236q019085 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 10:02:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3035E1E602A0; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 09:58:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02EA41E6022E for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 09:58:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2D2A3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 2 Nov 2003 10:51:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14219626 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 10:51:05 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA2Fp4a22590 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 10:51:04 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA2Fp3Ea013318 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 07:51:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FA527A2.1020000@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 09:49:54 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words-l Subject: Q for Natalie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie, do you know anything about African American marriage during Jim Crow? Last year when we did Their Eyes Were Watching God, my students wanted to know how Janie could just walk off the farm from her 1st husband and marry Jodi Starks. Was marriage not recognized by law in the AA community, or was it a matter of the laws not being accessed by the AA community (for whatever reason)? Do you know? I just figured if nobody challenges it, whatever the law says is irrelevant. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 2 10:46:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA2Gkd6q019527 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 10:46:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F2C651E602A4; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 10:42:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C09471E602A3 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 10:42:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2D2E8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 2 Nov 2003 11:35:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14220628 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 11:35:40 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA2GZea25546 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 11:35:40 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.172]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031102163535.RZTA1852.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 11:35:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA53257.5A47AC20@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 10:35:35 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Q for Natalie References: <3FA527A2.1020000@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > > Natalie, do you know anything about African American > marriage during Jim Crow? Last year when we did Their Eyes > Were Watching God, my students wanted to know how Janie > could just walk off the farm from her 1st husband and marry > Jodi Starks. Was marriage not recognized by law in the AA > community, or was it a matter of the laws not being accessed > by the AA community (for whatever reason)? Do you know? I > just figured if nobody challenges it, whatever the law says > is irrelevant. I don't really know what the situation was, but I feel sure that it was not a matter of legal marriages not being possible for African Americans. My guess is that some people simply didn't bother with getting legally married. For one thing, being an unwed mother has never carried the stigma in the black community that it has in the white community -- or so I have been told by African American friends who seem knowledgeable on such matters. Probably living together as husband and wife without officially being married also didn't seem as as it did in the early twentieth century in white communities. I bet there are answers on the web. It's an interesting question. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 2 10:50:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA2Goh6q019542 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 10:50:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6C6A61E602A4; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 10:46:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BD321E602A3 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 10:46:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2D2FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 2 Nov 2003 11:39:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14220689 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 11:39:44 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA2Gdia25776 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 11:39:44 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.172]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031102163938.SATE1852.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 11:39:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA5334A.A6C6A59D@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 10:39:38 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Q for Natalie References: <3FA527A2.1020000@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Googling for '"african american" marriage' shows that there were official marriages. Here's one genealogy site that lists African American marriages in Pike County, MS, with dates in the early twentieth century: *********** Unfortunately, many important marriage records, as well as other documents which are important to genealogists, were destroyed by fire when the Pike County Court House in Magnolia, Mississippi burned in 1882. This website contains a partial listing of African-American marriages of Pike County in which at least one party's surname is VARNADO, ROBINSON, MAGEE , CONEY or CONERLY: *********** http://www.angelfire.com/wi/Carver/aapcm.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 2 10:52:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA2Gqr6q019579 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 10:52:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C7EFB1E602A0; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 10:48:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C771E6022F for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 10:48:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2D316@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 2 Nov 2003 11:41:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14220926 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 11:41:54 -0500 Received: from web20506.mail.yahoo.com (web20506.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA2Gfsa26027 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 11:41:54 -0500 Received: from [66.20.150.238] by web20506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 02 Nov 2003 08:41:53 PST Message-ID: <20031102164153.3570.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 08:41:53 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Q of Hours Results To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FA4F93B.18AF0A33@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > It's a punch-in/punch-out job, as in a timeclock, > but eating the free > lunch takes place between the punching in and > punching out. To further confuse the issue, police officers (clocked) work 12 hr. shifts, dispatchers (clocked) work 8 hr. shifts. They do not have specified blocks of time to eat, but they eat, nonetheless. In fact, some dispatchers eat non-stop during working hours, a situation that often results in garbled transmissions. The Chief of Police and I are not on the time clock, do not fill out time sheets, and do not earn overtime pay. We are the only two such employees in the department. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 2 10:59:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA2Gxq6q019670 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 10:59:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2D32A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 2 Nov 2003 11:48:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14220995 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 11:48:30 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA2GmUa26485 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 11:48:30 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.172]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031102164824.SCRL1852.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 11:48:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA53558.5939ECA7@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 10:48:24 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Q for Natalie References: <3FA527A2.1020000@swbell.net> <3FA5334A.A6C6A59D@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I meant to add in that first reply that common-law marriage was, I think, recognized -- that living as a couple for something like seven years made the couple legally married. Or was that myth? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 2 11:05:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA2H5T6q019714 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 11:05:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 135651E60233; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 11:01:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D2B1E6022F for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 11:01:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2D32A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 2 Nov 2003 11:54:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14221113 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 11:54:31 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA2GsUa26821 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 11:54:30 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-169.gwi.net [216.195.153.169]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA2GsTAr045364 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 11:54:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031102115331.00b98900@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 11:54:46 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Q for Natalie In-Reply-To: <3FA53558.5939ECA7@maynor.net> References: <3FA527A2.1020000@swbell.net> <3FA5334A.A6C6A59D@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I meant to add in that first reply that common-law marriage was, I >think, recognized -- that living as a couple for something like seven >years made the couple legally married. Or was that myth? > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I don't know if it differs for AA couples in the past. But I do that common law marriage differs widely from state to state. In some states, Alabama for example, you are legally married from the day that you move in together and pass yourselves off as married. I know. It happened to me. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 2 11:14:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA2HEs6q019789 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 11:14:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A6A971E602A0; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 11:10:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77B9F1E60233 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 11:10:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2D349@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 2 Nov 2003 12:03:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14221354 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 12:03:55 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA2H3ta27577 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 12:03:55 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.172]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031102170350.LULT1849.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 12:03:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA538F6.B81B7A45@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 11:03:50 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Q for Natalie References: <3FA527A2.1020000@swbell.net> <3FA5334A.A6C6A59D@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031102115331.00b98900@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > >I meant to add in that first reply that common-law marriage was, I > >think, recognized -- that living as a couple for something like seven > >years made the couple legally married. Or was that myth? > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > I don't know if it differs for AA couples in the past. But I do that > common law marriage differs widely from state to state. In some states, > Alabama for example, you are legally married from the day that you move in > together and pass yourselves off as married. I know. It happened to me. In googling for common-law marriage I found that most states have abolished it (suggesting, of course, that most states used to allow it). Here are the states that still recognize it: Alabama Colorado District of Columbia Georgia (if created before 1/97) Idaho (if created before 1/96) Iowa Kansas Montana New Hampshire (for inheritance purposes only) Ohio (if created before 10/91) Oklahoma Pennsylvania (if created before 9/03) Rhode Island South Carolina Texas Utah But what I'm most interested in is what happened to you in Alabama. Did you move in with Clyde and instantly become his common-law wife?? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 2 11:16:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA2HGL6q019807 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 11:16:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0359C1E602A4; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 11:12:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C61A91E60233 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 11:12:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2D33F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 2 Nov 2003 12:05:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14221379 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 12:05:22 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA2H5Ma27690 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 12:05:22 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.172]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031102170517.LUTQ1849.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 12:05:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA5394D.32E66EB8@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 11:05:17 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Q for Natalie References: <3FA527A2.1020000@swbell.net> <3FA5334A.A6C6A59D@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031102115331.00b98900@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I also found this snippet about the history of AA marriages: ********************* In the slave states before the Civil War, slaves could not enter into any contracts, including the marriage contract. After the Civil War, one of the first issues to be considered by legislators in states of the former Confederacy was the legalization of slave unions. While this may have partially been a recognition of the humanity of former slaves, there are some arguments that the state interest in marriage was a mechanism to deem children the financial responsibility of freedmen rather than of their former masters or of the state itself. A vestige of the slave codes persisted in miscegenation laws, which disqualified and often criminalized marriages between nonwhite persons and white persons. Many states began to repeal their miscegenation laws after World War II, but it was not until 1967 that the Supreme Court held that miscegenation laws were unconstitutional (Loving v. Virginia). ********************* from: http://college.hmco.com/history/readerscomp/women/html/wh_022200_marriage.htm -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 2 11:19:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA2HJa6q019849 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 11:19:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3CE4E1E602A5; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 11:15:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B2381E602A4 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 11:15:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2D338@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 2 Nov 2003 12:08:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14221453 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 12:08:37 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA2H8aa27872 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 12:08:36 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.172]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031102170831.LVKO1849.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 12:08:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA53A0F.682FD740@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 11:08:31 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Q for Natalie References: <3FA527A2.1020000@swbell.net> <3FA5334A.A6C6A59D@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031102115331.00b98900@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Alabama for example, you are legally married from the day that you move in > together and pass yourselves off as married. I know. It happened to me. But only if you screw right away: ******* Alabama The requirements for a common-law marriage are: (1) capacity; (2) an agreement to be husband and wife; and (3) consummation of the marital relationship. ******* from: http://www.itslegal.com/infonet/family/common.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 2 11:58:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA2Hwr6q020295 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 11:58:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 68C401E602A6; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 11:53:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AFB71E600CD for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 11:53:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2D3A8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 2 Nov 2003 12:46:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14222331 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 12:46:47 -0500 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA2Hkla30404 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 12:46:47 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.32.4010c853 (4230) for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 12:46:35 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <32.4010c853.2cd69cfb@aol.com> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 12:46:35 EST Subject: Re: Q of Hours Results To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/2/2003 8:29:57 AM, rouvalis@SWBELL.NET writes: > They're just cheap. My dad worked third shift for 25 years >for the differential. My brother does the same thing. > They DID pay more for nights; that's why I did it too. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 2 12:24:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA2IOZ6q020554 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 12:24:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ED98F1E602A5; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 12:20:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBF421E6021B for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 12:20:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2D3FF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 2 Nov 2003 13:13:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14223309 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 13:13:35 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA2IDZa32457 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 13:13:35 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-169.gwi.net [216.195.153.169]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA2IDXAr054178 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 13:13:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031102131108.00b8f908@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 13:13:51 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Q for Natalie In-Reply-To: <3FA538F6.B81B7A45@maynor.net> References: <3FA527A2.1020000@swbell.net> <3FA5334A.A6C6A59D@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031102115331.00b98900@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >But what I'm most interested in is what happened to you in Alabama. Did >you move in with Clyde and instantly become his common-law wife?? > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Yup. November 1969. We told people in Wisconsin we were getting married in Alabama. We told people in Alabama that we had been married in Wisconsin. We thought we were unable to legally marry because Clyde's divorce was not yet a year old. I think that meant only that we couldn't marry in Wisconsin. Eventually, we got around to making it legal at the Sevier County Courthouse in Tennessee. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 2 12:26:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA2IQd6q020573 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 12:26:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C10C91E602A5; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 12:22:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 927FD1E601E2 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 12:22:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2D3F4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 2 Nov 2003 13:15:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14223347 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 13:15:39 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA2IFda32565 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 13:15:39 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-169.gwi.net [216.195.153.169]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA2IFbGn075884 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 13:15:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031102131527.00ba9b90@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 13:15:55 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Q for Natalie In-Reply-To: <3FA53A0F.682FD740@maynor.net> References: <3FA527A2.1020000@swbell.net> <3FA5334A.A6C6A59D@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031102115331.00b98900@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >bonniev wrote: > > Alabama for example, you are legally married from the day that you move in > > together and pass yourselves off as married. I know. It happened to me. > >But only if you screw right away: > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) We had that covered. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 2 18:31:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA30Vs6q024880 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 18:31:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C91A71E6000A; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 18:27:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B7881E602B8 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 18:27:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2D859@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 2 Nov 2003 19:20:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14234758 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 19:20:52 -0500 Received: from imo-r01.mx.aol.com (imo-r01.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.97]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA30Kqa28152 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 19:20:52 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1c0.111563ba (4320) for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 19:20:41 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1c0.111563ba.2cd6f958@aol.com> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 19:20:40 EST Subject: List? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I guess everyone here has been raptured. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Winston Zeddemore: "If there's a steady paycheck in it, I'll believe anything you say." From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 2 18:50:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA30op6q025017 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 18:50:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B38FB1E602BB; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 18:46:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84ACC1E6025F for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 18:46:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2D880@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 2 Nov 2003 19:39:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14235215 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 19:39:49 -0500 Received: from web20512.mail.yahoo.com (web20512.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA30dna29660 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 19:39:49 -0500 Received: from [68.159.164.175] by web20512.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 02 Nov 2003 16:39:48 PST Message-ID: <20031103003948.74794.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 16:39:48 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: List? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1c0.111563ba.2cd6f958@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > I guess everyone here has been raptured. You would think someone would at least have sent a postcard. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 2 19:01:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA311q6q025211 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 19:01:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 651A01E60261; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 18:57:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35B431E6025F for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 18:57:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2D8A3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 2 Nov 2003 19:50:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14235448 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 19:50:49 -0500 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA30ona30451 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 19:50:49 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.142.1ba4cfc3 (4320) for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 19:50:39 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <142.1ba4cfc3.2cd7005f@aol.com> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 19:50:39 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] List? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/2/2003 6:40:09 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << You would think someone would at least have sent a postcard. >> I wonder what the postage is. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Winston Zeddemore: "If there's a steady paycheck in it, I'll believe anything you say." From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 2 19:03:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA313A6q025266 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 19:03:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2442C1E60261; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 18:59:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA2B81E6025F for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 18:59:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2D891@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 2 Nov 2003 19:52:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14235511 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 19:52:07 -0500 Received: from relay-2.fotopic.net (sandman.fotopic.net [195.82.120.247]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA30q7a30614 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 19:52:07 -0500 Received: from mojo.fotopic.net ([195.82.120.252] helo=localhost.localdomain) by relay-2.fotopic.net with smtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AGSwq-0000VF-Hn for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 03 Nov 2003 00:52:00 +0000 Received: from phpmailer ([12.240.11.178]) by virtual.fotopic.net with HTTP (Apache/1.3.28 (Unix) PHP/4.3.3); Mon, 3 Nov 2003 00:52:00 +0000 Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 00:52:00 +0000 To: "" From: "Fotopic Postcards" Reply-To: "Fotopic Postcards" Subject: You've Been Sent A Postcard! X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: phpmailer [version 1.50] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset = "iso-8859-1" Message-Id: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty has sent you an e-postcard via Fotopic.Net! To view this postcard, you should go to the following address: http://betty9901.fotopic.net/pview.php?p=5762&e=WORDS-L%40LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Your postcard will be available for you to view for 60 days from the date of this email. You can send your own postcards from any gallery at Fotopic.Net - simply go to http://www.fotopic.net, find a photo, and send it to a friend! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 2 19:05:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA315T6q025289 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 19:05:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 933D01E6025F; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 19:01:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 641B91E60051 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 19:01:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001CC850@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 2 Nov 2003 19:54:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14235351 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 19:54:27 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA30iRa30015 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 19:44:27 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA30hpKE020282 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 19:43:51 -0500 Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 19:44:26 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: List? In-Reply-To: <20031103003948.74794.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031103003948.74794.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 2 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >You would think someone would at least have sent a postcard. I am writing one even as we . My rapture itinerary will apparently take me to Hattiesburg on Tuesday - I just looked at a travel book - it looks quite interesting. I will be staying at the Dunhopen Inn at least one night. The travel book says that the name comes from a family members's comment that he was "done hopin'" for a home. Natalie - does that sound right to you? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 2 19:08:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA318c6q025353 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 19:08:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 674031E60261; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 19:04:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34BDC1E6025F for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 19:04:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2D8CB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 2 Nov 2003 19:57:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14235955 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 19:57:36 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA30vZa31476 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 19:57:35 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA30vY9q012353 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 18:57:35 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FA5A7B0.7070403@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 18:56:16 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Q for Natalie References: <3FA527A2.1020000@swbell.net> <3FA5334A.A6C6A59D@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031102115331.00b98900@pop.gwi.net> <3FA5394D.32E66EB8@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It's unclear whether Janie is 1/4 or 3/4 white (a white man rapes her grandfather, but the race of the man who rapes her mother is not mentioned) -- but miscengenation probably still wouldn't apply due to the one drop rule. In the novel, she's married the first time by an AA pastor. Who would have the authority to perform marriages in the AA community? Would it have been common for marriages to be performed within the community that would not have necessarily been recognized by the white authorities? Or perhaps you were closer when you mentioned different cultural norms -- perhaps leaving was a common law divorce in the AA community, if not in the white. Hmm, btw, I just showed O Brother Where Art Thou to my freshmen. I like the movie better every time I see it. Natalie Maynor wrote: > I also found this snippet about the history of AA marriages: > > ********************* > In the slave states before the Civil War, slaves could not enter into > any contracts, including the marriage contract. After the Civil War, one > of the first issues to be considered by legislators in states of the > former Confederacy was the legalization of slave unions. While this may > have partially been a recognition of the humanity of former slaves, > there are some arguments that the state interest in marriage was a > mechanism to deem children the financial responsibility of freedmen > rather than of their former masters or of the state itself. A vestige of > the slave codes persisted in miscegenation laws, which disqualified and > often criminalized marriages between nonwhite persons and white persons. > Many states began to repeal their miscegenation laws after World War II, > but it was not until 1967 that the Supreme Court held that miscegenation > laws were unconstitutional (Loving v. Virginia). > ********************* > from: > http://college.hmco.com/history/readerscomp/women/html/wh_022200_marriage.htm > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 2 19:10:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA31Aa6q025367 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 19:10:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 463651E60051; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 19:06:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 090AD1E602BC for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 19:06:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2D8CF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 2 Nov 2003 19:59:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14236017 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 19:59:33 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA30xXa31637 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 19:59:33 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA30xW9q013652 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 18:59:32 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FA5A826.9030801@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 18:58:14 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: You've Been Sent A Postcard! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU If that's what rapturama looks like, I ain't goin'. Fotopic Postcards wrote: > Betty has sent you an e-postcard via Fotopic.Net! > > To view this postcard, you should go to the following address: > http://betty9901.fotopic.net/pview.php?p=5762&e=WORDS-L%40LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Your postcard will be available for you to view for 60 days from the date of > this email. > > You can send your own postcards from any gallery at Fotopic.Net - simply go > to http://www.fotopic.net, find a photo, and send it to a friend! > > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 2 19:45:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA31j76q025630 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 19:45:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 140F01E602BE; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 19:41:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D95C91E602BD for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 19:41:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2D90A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 2 Nov 2003 20:34:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14236801 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 20:34:04 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA31Y4a02337 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 20:34:04 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2003110301335701400ceq8ue>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 01:33:58 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031102172205.04090ba0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 17:33:44 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: You've Been Sent A Postcard! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thanks, Betty! G has one of those lei / coconut shell / grass skirt outfits, from an ice skating show she was in this past August: . The young ladies wear it with a leotard underneath, though. (She's second from the right in that pic.) With a sleeveless leotard, it doubled as one of her Halloween party costumes during the heat wave here -- much cooler than the full-body unicorn suit she wore to go trick-or-treating -- and she ended up winning the "cutest" and "most unique" prizes with it. Pumpkins came out well this year, too: . Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 2 20:27:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA32Ru6q026076 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 20:27:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 511161E602C6; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 20:23:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DD2B1E602C5 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 20:23:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2D99B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 2 Nov 2003 21:16:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14238171 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 21:16:53 -0500 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA32Gra06877 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 21:16:53 -0500 Received: from [68.159.164.175] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 02 Nov 2003 18:16:52 PST Message-ID: <20031103021652.14197.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 18:16:52 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Betty and Pete To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (Betty) 1. We Left Behinders thank you. The outfits are lovely, I'm quite gelous. (Pete) 2. Your pumpkin artistry is outshone only by the beauty of G. I'm combining messages to save paper. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 2 20:36:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA32a06q026160 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 20:36:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5FA661E602C4; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 20:32:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 317B31E60005 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 20:32:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2DA02@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 2 Nov 2003 21:24:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14238087 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 21:24:57 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA32Eua06659 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 21:14:56 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA32EKKE004483 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 21:14:21 -0500 Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 21:14:56 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: You've Been Sent A Postcard! (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Betty has sent you an e-postcard via Fotopic.Net! Betty has said it much better than I could! LOL! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 2 20:37:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA32bi6q026169 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 20:37:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2C3771E602C5; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 20:33:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA2441E602C3 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 20:33:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2DA26@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 2 Nov 2003 21:26:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14239149 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 21:26:40 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA32Qea08627 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 21:26:40 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA32Qc2f000910 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 18:26:38 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA32QZJC000889; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 18:26:36 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031102182656.00a3ac00@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 18:28:22 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: You've Been Sent A Postcard! In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031102172205.04090ba0@mail.istori.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:33 PM 11/2/2003 -0800, Peter Kaminski wrote: >Thanks, Betty! > >G has one of those lei / coconut shell / grass skirt outfits, from an ice >skating show she was in this past August: >. The >young ladies wear it with a leotard underneath, though. (She's second from >the right in that pic.) She is adorable! Can't believe how much she has grown. Is your son still skating, too? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 2 20:51:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA32pI6q026291 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 20:51:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A87D21E6000C; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 20:47:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 793FB1E60005 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 20:47:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001CC9AB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 2 Nov 2003 21:40:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14239619 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 21:40:15 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA32eEa10018 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 21:40:14 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA32dllw012308 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 18:39:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FA5BFB8.20504@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 20:38:48 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: You've Been Sent A Postcard! References: <4.2.2.20031102182656.00a3ac00@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Cute photos! -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 2 21:21:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA33Lu6q026504 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 21:21:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5A6551E60238; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 21:17:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28FC41E6000C for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 21:17:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001CCA02@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 2 Nov 2003 22:10:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14240554 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 22:10:52 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA33Aqa13088 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 22:10:52 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.172]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031103031046.PUKJ1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 22:10:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA5C736.705203A9@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 21:10:46 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: List? References: <20031103003948.74794.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > I just looked at a travel book - it looks quite interesting. I will be > staying at the Dunhopen Inn at least one night. The travel book > says that the name comes from a family members's comment that he was > "done hopin'" for a home. Natalie - does that sound right to you? Makes sense. If you've found a home, then you're done hoping for one. A travel book about Hattiesburg?? I'm surprised such a thing would exist. What looks interesting in it? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 2 21:22:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA33Mn6q026523 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 21:22:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9DE5D1E60238; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 21:18:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BF941E6000C for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 21:18:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2DA94@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 2 Nov 2003 22:11:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14240565 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 22:11:46 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA33Bja13168 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 22:11:45 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.172]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031103031140.PUSQ1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 22:11:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA5C76C.4C0FCE17@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 21:11:40 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: You've Been Sent A Postcard! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fotopic Postcards wrote: > http://betty9901.fotopic.net/pview.php?p=5762&e=WORDS-L%40LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Eek. I didn't think rapture would look quite like that. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 2 21:27:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA33RZ6q026572 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 21:27:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0BC501E60238; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 21:23:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C64D21E60005 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 21:23:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2DABD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 2 Nov 2003 22:16:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14240705 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 22:16:32 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA33GWa13685 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 22:16:32 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.172]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031103031627.PWBD1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 22:16:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA5C88B.572502DF@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 21:16:27 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Q for Natalie References: <3FA527A2.1020000@swbell.net> <3FA5334A.A6C6A59D@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031102115331.00b98900@pop.gwi.net> <3FA5394D.32E66EB8@maynor.net> <3FA5A7B0.7070403@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > In the novel, she's married the first time by an AA pastor. > Who would have the authority to perform marriages in the > AA community? I don't even know who has authority to perform marriages now -- judges? preachers? others? I can't imagine that there would be different rules for different groups. > Would it have been common for marriages to > be performed within the community that would not have > necessarily been recognized by the white authorities? Or If no marriage license was involved, then I assume it wouldn't be recognized by the authorities, black or white. > Hmm, btw, I just showed O Brother Where Art Thou to my > freshmen. I like the movie better every time I see it. I just watched a strange movie on tv -- "Angelfire" -- or some such name. It was about voodoo. I kept thinking about turning it off but ended up watching the whole thing. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 2 21:39:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA33dT6q026676 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 21:39:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B82FA1E60238; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 21:35:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 824771E60011 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 21:35:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2DACF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 2 Nov 2003 22:28:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14240784 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 22:28:25 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA33IPa13889 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 22:18:25 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA33HmKE015651 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 22:17:49 -0500 Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 22:18:23 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: List? In-Reply-To: <3FA5C736.705203A9@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <20031103003948.74794.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> <3FA5C736.705203A9@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 2 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Makes sense. If you've found a home, then you're done hoping for one. >A travel book about Hattiesburg?? I'm surprised such a thing would >exist. What looks interesting in it? It makes after-the-fact logical sense - but it sounds more like a folk etymology than a fact. Lots looks interesting - food, B&Bs, golf (even though I have not yet taken it up). I did not buy the Off the Beaten Path Guide to Mississippi - but check the series. I bought their guides for Utah and Arkansas. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 2 21:47:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA33lv6q026769 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 21:47:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 90C6D1E602C4; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 21:43:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56F311E60011 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 21:43:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2DAE9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 2 Nov 2003 22:36:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14241263 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 22:36:54 -0500 Received: from web20516.mail.yahoo.com (web20516.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.232.185]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA33ara15599 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 22:36:53 -0500 Received: from [68.159.164.175] by web20516.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 02 Nov 2003 19:36:53 PST Message-ID: <20031103033653.35338.qmail@web20516.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 19:36:53 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Q for Natalie To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FA5C88B.572502DF@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Rita Chapman wrote: > > > In the novel, she's married the first time by an > AA pastor. > > Who would have the authority to perform > marriages in the > > AA community? > > I don't even know who has authority to perform > marriages now -- judges? > preachers? others? I can't imagine that there would > be different rules > for different groups. According to hte Mississippi State Code of 1972, amended, marriage ceremonies perfomed by municipal mayors were valid until early in 1994, fwiw. > > > Would it have been common for marriages to > > be performed within the community that would not > have > > necessarily been recognized by the white > authorities? Or > > If no marriage license was involved, then I assume > it wouldn't be > recognized by the authorities, black or white. > > freshmen. I like the movie better every time I > see it. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 2 22:38:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA34ca6q027194 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 22:38:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6A3A81E60264; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 22:34:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3908E1E60010 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 22:34:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2DD57@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 2 Nov 2003 23:27:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14246585 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 23:27:32 -0500 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA34RWa21513 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 23:27:32 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1db.1391403c (2612) for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 23:27:22 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1db.1391403c.2cd7332a@aol.com> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 23:27:22 EST Subject: Re: You've Been Sent A Postcard! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/2/2003 6:52:23 PM, bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU writes: >http://betty9901.fotopic.net/pview.php?p=5762&e=WORDS-L%40LISTSERV.UGA.EDU AOL wouldn't bring it up :-{ Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 2 22:48:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA34mk6q027311 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 22:48:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9D0411E60013; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 22:44:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE171E60238 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 22:44:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2DDB8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 2 Nov 2003 23:37:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14247401 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 23:37:01 -0500 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA34b0a22257 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 23:37:01 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.196.21f8ce53 (4568) for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 23:36:54 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <196.21f8ce53.2cd73566@aol.com> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 23:36:54 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] You've Been Sent A Postcard! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/2/2003 10:27:39 PM Central Standard Time, Dutchessg1@AOL.COM writes: AOL wouldn't bring it up :-{ I got it earlier, but it's not connecting now. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Trying to make sense out of the latest Big O From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 2 23:25:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA35P76q027599 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 23:25:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D72F81E60265; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 23:21:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E8D1E6000E for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 23:21:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2DF0B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 0:14:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14249600 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 00:13:45 -0500 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA350Ua24948 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 00:00:30 -0500 Received: from EDuncan368@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.158.26e095fa (4568) for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 00:00:19 -0500 (EST) From: EDuncan368@aol.com Message-ID: <158.26e095fa.2cd73ae3@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 00:00:19 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Q of Hours Results To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/2/2003 8:58:06 AM Central Standard Time, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: << And is programming the modern form of ditchdigging? >> I like programming. Evelyn Duncan EDuncan368@aol.com This account protected by an attack cabbit. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 2 23:26:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA35Q36q027616 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 23:26:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 623EB1E602C5; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 23:22:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57CA81E60265 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 23:21:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2DF40@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 0:14:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14250365 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 00:14:19 -0500 Received: from web20515.mail.yahoo.com (web20515.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.232.184]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA358Sa25907 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 00:08:29 -0500 Received: from [68.159.164.175] by web20515.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 02 Nov 2003 21:08:28 PST Message-ID: <20031103050828.19616.qmail@web20515.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 21:08:28 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: You've Been Sent A Postcard! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1db.1391403c.2cd7332a@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Theo Groothof wrote: > In a message dated 11/2/2003 6:52:23 PM, > bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU writes: > > >http://betty9901.fotopic.net/pview.php?p=5762&e=WORDS-L%40LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > AOL wouldn't bring it up :-{ > Theo Smack ol' A upside the head. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 05:41:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA3Bfs6q030458 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 05:41:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A5A741E60028; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 05:37:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77F361E60027 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 05:37:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2E31F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 6:30:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14259783 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 06:30:47 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA3BUla23897 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 06:30:47 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.162.191]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031103113042.ZBTM1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 06:30:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA63C62.C3448A09@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 05:30:42 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: List? References: <20031103003948.74794.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> <3FA5C736.705203A9@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Lots looks interesting - food, B&Bs, golf > (even though I have not yet taken it up). In my very limited experience with Hattiesburg, I have never thought of it as particularly , though it seems like a nice little town ("little town" as in not big city -- it's not tiny -- probably about twice the size of Starkville -- "small city" is a better description, I guess). And I was thinking when I was briefly there last summer about its convenient location -- close to the Coast, close to NO, close to Jackson, etc. > I did not buy the Off the Beaten > Path Guide to Mississippi - but check the series. I bought their guides > for Utah and Arkansas. I have the one for Mississippi. That's how I found that crazy store with all the religious signs just north of Vicksburg. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 05:46:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA3Bku6q030550 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 05:46:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8B1301E60029; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 05:42:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C7C61E60028 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 05:42:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2E32D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 6:35:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14259918 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 06:35:49 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA3BZna24262 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 06:35:49 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.162.191]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031103113544.ZCSX1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 06:35:44 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA63D90.36B520A8@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 05:35:44 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Q for Natalie References: <20031103033653.35338.qmail@web20516.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > According to hte Mississippi State Code of 1972, > amended, marriage ceremonies perfomed by municipal > mayors were valid until early in 1994, fwiw. So they're no longer valid? I wonder why not. I also wonder why anybody has to perform marriage ceremonies. Like why does there need to be a ceremony? There doesn't, of course, as long as an appropriate official signs the marriage license, but I wonder why that has to be done. And something else just occurred to me. How do the officials know that the person who signed the marriage license (the , not the witnesses) is a legal marriage performer? Do they check up on him/her? Does a ever expire? Like even if that person hasn't worked as a preacher in twenty years and considers himself an atheist? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 06:15:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA3CEx6q030761 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 06:15:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 986C31E6002C; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 06:10:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A9F81E6002B for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 06:10:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2E359@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 7:03:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14260364 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 07:03:52 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA3C3qa12932 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 07:03:52 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 13:05:34 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id VR1B3HL6; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 13:05:29 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031103130126.0279a5f0@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 13:03:38 +0100 Subject: Re: Survivor and the aurora In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031030211419.00b9ccb8@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031030211419.00b9ccb8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 21:15 30.10.2003 -0500 skrev bonniev: >Wow was Survivor ever good tonight! Jeff, the moderator, was pissed, >pissed, pissed. > >And before Survivor started I got to see the aurora. At last. It was red >and all over the sky. Quite nice. And I came home from Bergen yesterday after a weekend visit to Aurora and the twins. She is just able to turn over from her back to her stomach and the twins are now (at times) bashful and try to hide if you look at them. And they have also developed their individualities more clearly. Giffs will come later. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 06:53:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA3CrO6q031103 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 06:53:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 315731E60031; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 06:49:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 025571E60030 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 06:49:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2E3B3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 7:42:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14261278 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 07:42:17 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA3CgGa16480 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 07:42:16 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 13:44:02 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id VR1B3HVY; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 13:43:55 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031103134155.0272a8d0@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 13:42:05 +0100 Subject: Re: FW: Good news on the MRI scan. In-Reply-To: <000101c39fd9$a2040d40$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> References: <000101c39fd9$a2040d40$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Very good!! Espen 13:05 31.10.2003 -0500 skrev Alec D. Plotkin: >Good news for Heide. I thought I would share some good news. > >Alec > >>>Heide: >>> >>>I saw your scan from 10/25. There is no evidence of any >>>residual or recurrent tumor (good) > >alec > > ------------ >plotkina@isc.upenn.edu >Alec D. Plotkin-IT Support Specialist >http://pobox.upenn.edu/~plotkina/ >University of Pennsylvania >ISC-Technology Support Services/ULAR >220 South 40th Street-Suite 220 >Philadelphia, PA 19104-3512 >Phone:215-898-2321 >Fax: 215-573-9998 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 07:13:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA3DDk6q031441 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 07:13:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E64851E6002F; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 07:09:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B041E60029 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 07:09:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001CD38A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 8:02:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14261982 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 08:02:37 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA3D2aa18725 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 08:02:36 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:04:22 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id VR1B3H54; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:04:21 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031103135723.02723128@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 14:02:30 +0100 Subject: Re: Q of Hours Results In-Reply-To: <20031102032659.60332.qmail@web20516.mail.yahoo.com> References: <3FA476E9.930444CC@maynor.net> <20031102032659.60332.qmail@web20516.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 19:26 01.11.2003 -0800 skrev Lynne Weber: >> Did Meebers offer explanations while I was on >> nomail? >> >> -- >> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > >Yes. Most of their observations were that 8-5 was >most common. Some had lunch hours, some lunch breaks. > Some are paid for lunch, but not many. I believe >Espen said 8:30-3:30. I work 8-5 with one unpaid hour >for lunch. I'm always there by 7:15, however - force >of habit. At the universities of Oslo and Bergen academic staff are supposed to work 8-4 while clerical staff work 8-3/8-3:45. The idea is that office workers have to be available in their 20 minute lunch breaks while the academics don't. (This whole idea about academics being in their office the whole day from 8-4 is probably coming from the office side with administrators jealous of the the freedom the academics (used to) have.) And now for a digression: there was supposed to be a message sent out to everyone at the Univ. of Oslo: "You are not allowed to sleep in your office outside the working hours." Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 07:44:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA3Dic6q031726 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 07:44:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 90DDC1E60035; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 07:40:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CEC01E60032 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 07:40:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2E460@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 8:33:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14262835 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 08:33:30 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA3DXUa23124 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 08:33:30 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA3DXThQ016427 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 07:33:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 07:33:51 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1852525838.20031103073351@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Word Q MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What is an equestrian neighborhood? (The CA lawyer who was shot lives in one.) Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 07:50:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA3DoQ6q031788 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 07:50:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0BB4F1E60035; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 07:46:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEFCD1E60032 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 07:46:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2E495@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 8:39:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14263350 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 08:39:19 -0500 Received: from fe3.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA3DdIa24145 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 08:39:18 -0500 Received: from [136.167.88.199] (HELO bc.edu) by fe3.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.5) with ESMTP id 35135174 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 03 Nov 2003 08:39:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA65A86.2000503@bc.edu> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 08:39:18 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Word Q References: <1852525838.20031103073351@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <1852525838.20031103073351@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Homes of the "horsey set" ? Probably a very wealthy neighborhood where the residents keep a few horses just in case the urge to ride comes over them. There are a couple of them here in Massachusetts...Dover and Westwood come to mind. Rita L. Karen Kay wrote: >What is an equestrian neighborhood? (The CA lawyer who was shot lives >in one.) > >Karen, >Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... > > -- Rita Leonard Information Technology Systems Services O'Neill Library 544 Phone: 617-552-3403 Email: rita.leonard@bc.edu "Whether you believe you can do a thing or not, you are right." Henry Ford From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 07:50:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA3DoT6q031791 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 07:50:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C6C051E60037; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 07:46:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 981A11E60035 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 07:46:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2E487@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 8:39:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14263355 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 08:39:22 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA3DdLa24161 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 08:39:21 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-167.gwi.net [216.195.157.167]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA3DdKGn080622 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 08:39:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031103083811.00b27ee0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 08:39:40 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Q for Natalie In-Reply-To: <3FA5C88B.572502DF@maynor.net> References: <3FA527A2.1020000@swbell.net> <3FA5334A.A6C6A59D@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031102115331.00b98900@pop.gwi.net> <3FA5394D.32E66EB8@maynor.net> <3FA5A7B0.7070403@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I just watched a strange movie on tv -- "Angelfire" -- or some such >name. It was about voodoo. I kept thinking about turning it off but >ended up watching the whole thing. -- Natalie I watched the three hour CBS 75th Anniversary celebration. It was pretty good. The Smothers Brother did a stand-up routine with song about how they were censored and canceled back in the late 60s. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 08:07:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA3E726q031941 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 08:07:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 965151E60034; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 08:02:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64B1B1E60032 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 08:02:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001CD482@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 8:55:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14264199 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 08:55:54 -0500 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA3Dtna26669 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 08:55:49 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 03 Nov 2003 05:55:48 PST Message-ID: <20031103135548.24634.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 05:55:48 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Q of Hours Results To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.0.20031103135723.02723128@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Espen Ore wrote: > And now for a digression: there was supposed to be a > message sent out to everyone at the Univ. of Oslo: > "You are not allowed to sleep in your office outside > the working hours." That begs the question, what about "during the working hours"? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 08:22:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA3EMM6q032037 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 08:22:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B51B01E6003A; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 08:18:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F08291E60044 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 08:18:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2E53C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 9:11:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14264863 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 09:11:08 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA3EB8a28803 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 09:11:08 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003110314110201300oeh8ue>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:11:02 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031103055949.03261ff8@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 06:10:46 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Word Q In-Reply-To: <1852525838.20031103073351@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id hA3EB8a28804 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay writes, >What is an equestrian neighborhood? Zoned for residential plus horses. Prose examples: "He indicated that the area is zoned RA-20 with a horse overlay zoning having lots of approximately 25,000 square feet." "This is the Marloma Neighborhood. It is comprised of 64 lots within Marina Drive, Marloma Drive and Rollando Drive. Note that the lower outer perimeter of the neighborhood is in the Horse ("H") Overlay Zone." "Residential livestock combining zones are intended to be combined with single-family residential zones to permit greater flexibility in certain requirements pertaining to the keeping of farm animals such as horses, ponies, mules, cows, goats and sheep, and pigs and swine under Future Farmers of America-supervised and 4-H-supervised projects, in those areas of the City where the keeping of such animals is already prevalent. It is also the intent of the RL zones to provide opportunities for those whose lifestyle includes the keeping of such animals to locate in such neighborhoods in order to separate such activities from areas occupied by those who do not share such a lifestyle. (Ord. 4232 § 1 (part), 1975)" Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 09:52:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA3Fql6q000346 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 09:52:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C06F81E6016D; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 09:48:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 863A01E60039 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 09:48:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2E8E2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 10:41:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14273464 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 10:41:38 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA3Ffca13950 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 10:41:38 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001CD889@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 10:41:38 -0500 Message-Id: <200311031541.hA3Ffca13950@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 10:41:38 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Q for Natalie To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 05:35:44 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Lynne Weber wrote: > >> According to hte Mississippi State Code of 1972, >> amended, marriage ceremonies perfomed by municipal >> mayors were valid until early in 1994, fwiw. > >So they're no longer valid? I wonder why not. I also wonder why >anybody has to perform marriage ceremonies. Like why does there need to >be a ceremony? There doesn't, of course, as long as an appropriate >official signs the marriage license, but I wonder why that has to be >done. And something else just occurred to me. How do the officials >know that the person who signed the marriage license (the , >not the witnesses) is a legal marriage performer? Do they check up on >him/her? Does a ever expire? Like even if that >person hasn't worked as a preacher in twenty years and considers himself >an atheist? > Yes, it matters whether the signatory is licensed to perform marriages within a specific jurisdiction or not (eg state, religious district). Some people can perform a marriage, but only in their own parish or only under supervision. And yes, the terms under which a person is licensed can change (they can move to a new jurisdiction and get permission to perform marriages there; they can retire, and be restricted to performing marriages locally, they can lose their endorsement). As to how the officials know, sometimes they assume that someone is ok based on their title, etc, and are wrong. But the credentials are registered someplace (eg denomination offices, county courthouse, etc) and can be checked up on. I know a preacher who was not yet fully ordained and had performed marriages unsupervised (this is like driving alone after dark on a learner's permit). The marriages have been challenged and nullified had the denomination not validated them. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 10:09:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA3G9G6q000553 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 10:09:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 797BB1E602D9; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 10:05:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 450D51E602CD for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 10:05:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001CD922@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 10:58:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14275132 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 10:58:07 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA3Fw7a18232 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 10:58:07 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001CD945@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 10:58:06 -0500 Message-Id: <200311031558.hA3Fw7a18232@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 10:58:07 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Q for Natalie To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 18:56:16 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >It's unclear whether Janie is 1/4 or 3/4 white (a white man >rapes her grandfather, but the race of the man who rapes her >mother is not mentioned) -- but miscengenation probably >still wouldn't apply due to the one drop rule. > > I wasn't going to, but I have to. What the hell business is it of anybody's whether a white man raped her ? I am shocked that you bring this sordid bit of gossip to my delicate virtual ears! It's also unclear to me whether or how this lascivious act on the part of anyone's grandfather (I'm sure he was asking for it) could possible bear on the establishment of someone's legal race. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 10:23:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA3GNs6q000711 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 10:23:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 829801E60042; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 10:19:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3F841E602E1 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 10:19:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2EA13@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 11:12:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14276546 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 11:12:40 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA3GCaa21553 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 11:12:40 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 11:12:27 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7766D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Survivor Q Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 11:12:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] >Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 12:49 PM >I managed to turn on my VCR late, so all I saw was the two tribal >councils. Why did you say that Jeff was mad, Bonnie? At Osten? Or >something else? Jeff was mad because after all of the effort, screening, sport, and downright luck so many people invest in getting the "right people" onto the show, someone decides to walk away, why did he even try out to begin with? Other contestants [of previous shows] have talked about wanting to go home, but have done nothing but whine for a day or so then shut up. It's never been 1::camera, but in the hearing range of others. Once someone has whined, then someone else has spoken 1::camera about why they don't just lay down their torch. This was the first time someone actually did it, but after a member-by-member poll took place. It's also the first time the issue of someone quitting (I think) has come up at Tribal Council. I don't believe anyone has been voted out immediately after whining, but they've never lasted much longer, either. The twist of bringing back the Outcasts, was IMO, exceptionally creative. The first "series/round", anyone who missed the process could easily catch up (unless it was someone walking around naked or the couple sneaking into the woods to take a little while longer than expected to "find some firewood". Of course, some elements have been around every series: eating "fun" things the locals eat - so it's not as if the production company found as many nasty things walking around, then doing research to see if it'll kill the contestants - but I wonder who was the taste-tester to make sure someone could actually eat it! The [first] series started with an alliance - but coming from someone who was a corporate consultant (and a good one for this idea), why wouldn't he create one? Aside from the social/relationship issues brewing around him after he was home for awhile, he's probably been able to write his own ticket. Anyway, anyone missing the buzz on the first series likely tuned into the second. Everyone from the first had to tune in to see if they did anything new. From that point forward, they had to keep adding twists to keep the audience hooked. I thought things like starting with men vs. women were interesting, but not as captivating. One constant seems to be [at least one] time where everyone is standing or leaning on top of or against something which begins to wear everyone down and they have to drop or fall until there's just one person. It seems to be the last immunity challenge. And that's one other thing I like: having a final immunity challenge where the winner gets to pick their opponent - and that seems to be a rather difficult (strategically) decision. Sorry for the volume - today's methadone day - I spent most of the weekend curled up on the couch and didn't even get my Sunday NYTimes and Chicago Tribune until this morning, meaning I won't even get to start the crosswords a day late, throwing my entire week's schedule off balance. (and the methadone makes me rather wordy - even moreso speaking) Remember what Rupert[1] did when the game started[2]? He was sitting with the raft when the others were shopping and took an opportunity to dig through the other team's stuff and took what he wanted? I'm surprised this doesn't occur more often - and I'm not talking about the "win the contest and get to visit the camp and take something home" (which I find to be lame). I'm talking about making a midnight raid to steal any food/equipment provided in advance. Can you imagine taking all of their cookware, fishing poles, etc.? I'm sure there would be some payback at some point, but I think it would definitely add some flavor to the game. A couple of other tidbits others may|not know about: did you know there are body doubles? That's so when someone is talking 1::camera, it can be done far enough away from the camp they can speak frankly such that what they say won't be heard until the contest is over and everyone is home. Overall, it just provides an opportunity at a whim to have the "right" bodies to be in various positions to appear they're doing something other than lying about, waiting for time to pass. Have you heard about gambling on Survivor's outcome? A year or so ago, there was a site named "SurvivorSucks.com" Which had an online game. Entries were created and every Friday, a synopsis was made and points were awarded for those who predicted the outcome. One team maintained 100%. And it turned out they were in some little area (Vancouver?) which, it was later found, was a test bed for that Survivor series and they got to see all of the contests. I don't think anyone did anything like that afterwards as others were afraid inside info would take away all of the fun. I read somewhere (NYTimes|Chicago Tribune|USAToday|Investors Business Daily|Wall Street Journal|Indianapolis Star; take your pick, I'm not digging for a precise answer back through all of my daily readings when all I need to know it was in one of them) an Internet casino created some various types of betting opportunities; e.g., who would be voted off each week, series winner, and any of the other types of betting opportunities casinos create to make money but saw a rather sizeable number (statistically) of bets coming in for the same person being the series winner they decided to freeze all of the games associated with Survivor. I don't think they stated what they were going to do with the previous bets up to that time - and I don't remember if the articles said anyways. -phil [1] Rupert is from [here in] Indianapolis, IN. He's gotten good press here as a result of being on the show as well as his off-the-air work. My prediction is after the tribes merge, he'll be seen as a major thread because of his strong leadership (or what others might consider to be as an overbearing personality). [2] I hate it when they lie in promos: "The candidates are starting totally different: we told them we were going to a send-off party before starting. The catch is: there *is* no party. They'll start with less than any other Survivor group: just the clothes on their backs - no food, no water, no fire, just their clothes." Lo and behold, "Oh, and to help you get started, we're giving you a raft and a bag of money so you can swim to that town there on the edge of the water and purchase things you think you might need, then head to your camp." (this is why I watch certain women's sports: specifically, basketball and soccer. Women can't dunk so their shots & layups are cleaner instead of hogging the ball. In scocer, you don't see them taking dives [as much] and tackling each other so hard as to kill each other or taking a dive to get the opponent punished. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 11:03:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA3H3G6q001084 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 11:03:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0564B1E60042; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 10:59:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EBC41E6003B for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 10:59:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2EBF5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 11:52:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14280763 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 11:51:57 -0500 Received: from heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net (heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.189]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA3Gpva30312 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 11:51:57 -0500 Received: from sdn-ap-021txhousp0257.dialsprint.net ([65.177.17.3] helo=earthlink.net) by heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AGhvn-0005rY-00 for words-L@listserv.uga.edu; Mon, 03 Nov 2003 08:51:56 -0800 Message-ID: <410-22003111316520368@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: dormarbil@earthlink.net X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2003.2.92.0 (Windows) From: "Doris Smith" To: "words-L" Subject: Sound is back! 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Well, whaddyaknow -- the sound is back on my desktop! Since I monkeyed around with a lot of things, I'm not sure exactly what fixed it, but it just may have been the uninstalling and reinstalling of the Norton Internet Security software and the Norton Anti-virus software, since that is what I did yesterday. Last night I was checking email and the "mail truck" voice came on.
 
Thanks again for all of the help from Words-Lers - I'm convinced it was the combination of all things that brought the sound back.
 
 
Doris Smith
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From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 11:35:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA3HZ06q001375 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 11:35:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A8CF31E60042; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 11:30:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63DAF1E6003B for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 11:30:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2ED20@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 12:23:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14283779 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 12:23:51 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA3HNls03975 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 12:23:51 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 12:23:42 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77674@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Sound is back! Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 12:23:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU -----Original Message----- From: Doris Smith [mailto:dormarbil@EARTHLINK.NET] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 11:52 AM To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Sound is back! Well, whaddyaknow -- the sound is back on my desktop! Since I monkeyed around with a lot of things, I'm not sure exactly what fixed it, but it just may have been the uninstalling and reinstalling of the Norton Internet Security software and the Norton Anti-virus software, since that is what I did yesterday. Last night I was checking email and the "mail truck" voice came on. Thanks again for all of the help from Words-Lers - I'm convinced it was the combination of all things that brought the sound back. Good. BTW, never let the machine win. Never, ever, let the machine win. As long as it senses you have that attitude it will eventually submit. ("Never give up. Never, ever, give up. -W. Churchill (I think) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 13:28:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA3JSq6q002679 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 13:28:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 992F31E60055; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 13:24:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B2631E6005E for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 13:24:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2F10B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:17:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14293508 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:17:40 -0500 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA3JHds26247 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:17:39 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 03 Nov 2003 11:17:36 PST Message-ID: <20031103191737.85695.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 11:17:36 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Q for Natalie To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200311031558.hA3Fw7a18232@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > What the hell business is it of anybody's whether a > white man raped her > ? I am shocked that you bring this > sordid bit of gossip to my > delicate virtual ears! It's also unclear to me > whether or how this > lascivious act on the part of anyone's grandfather > (I'm sure he was asking > for it) could possible bear on the establishment of > someone's legal race. Now, don't go faint-hearted on us this far into the scenario. Fate dictates that the whole story be unravelled. Despite the insults to our delicacy, we must press on. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 13:37:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA3Jb36q002762 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 13:37:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6FF9D1E60055; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 13:32:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44BBC1E60058 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 13:32:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2F175@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:25:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14294199 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:25:51 -0500 Received: from web20512.mail.yahoo.com (web20512.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA3JPos27956 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:25:51 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20512.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 03 Nov 2003 11:25:48 PST Message-ID: <20031103192548.92265.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 11:25:48 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Sound is back! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77674@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > ("Never give up. Never, ever, give up. -W. > Churchill (I think) Quite so. And he never did. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 13:41:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA3Jfx6q002790 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 13:41:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 279891E6005E; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 13:37:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A0841E60055 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 13:37:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2F18A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:30:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14294714 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:30:47 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA3JUbs29082 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:30:46 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:30:29 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77679@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Sound is back! Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:30:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Lynne Weber [mailto:lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] >Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 2:26 PM >> ("Never give up. Never, ever, give up. -W. >> Churchill (I think) > >Quite so. And he never did. He's also an interesting example of nature vs. nurture. Extremely obese, smoked cigar like a factory, drank like a fish, and lived to a pretty decent age (in spite of all of that). From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 13:48:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA3Jmp6q002865 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 13:48:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3F8BA1E602E1; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 13:44:19 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E4DE1E60050 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 13:44:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001CE131@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:37:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14295250 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:37:13 -0500 Received: from web20513.mail.yahoo.com (web20513.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA3JbCs30212 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:37:12 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20513.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 03 Nov 2003 11:37:10 PST Message-ID: <20031103193710.97194.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 11:37:10 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Sound is back! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77679@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Phil Paxton wrote: > He's also an interesting example of nature vs. > nurture. Extremely obese, > smoked cigar like a factory, drank like a fish, and > lived to a pretty decent > age (in spite of all of that). It's all in the jeans. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 13:50:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA3JoB6q002891 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 13:50:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DE81C1E602E7; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 13:46:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADF4E1E602E5 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 13:46:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001CE133@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:39:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14295346 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:39:00 -0500 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA3Jcxs30411 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:38:59 -0500 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D4F8245 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:38:58 -0500 (EST) From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: You've Been Sent A Postcard! Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:38:59 -0500 Message-ID: <005201c3a242$206ecf20$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Fotopic Postcards >Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 7:52 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: You've Been Sent A Postcard! > > >Betty has sent you an e-postcard via Fotopic.Net! > >To view this postcard, you should go to the following address: > >http://betty9901.fotopic.net/pview.php?p=5762&e=WORDS-L%40LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Looks like a cool time. alec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 14:22:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA3KMb6q003179 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:22:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1BF451E60057; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:18:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11D4D1E60056 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:18:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2F2DA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:11:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14297997 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:11:25 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA3KBPs04733 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:11:25 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001CE239@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:11:24 -0500 Message-Id: <200311032011.hA3KBPs04733@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:11:24 -0500 From: Neal Traven Subject: inside skinny? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Cc: Neal Traven Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Erev Election Day... Natalie -- will Musgrove hold off Haley Barbour? Marty and Brad (and Amy?) -- will Ben Chandler defeat Fletcher? Off-list replies accepted and appreciated. neal From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 14:25:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA3KPH6q003192 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:25:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 066121E60043; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:21:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBDAE1E60056 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:21:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2F30D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:14:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14298295 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:14:05 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA3KE5s05339 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:14:05 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2F319@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:14:04 -0500 Message-Id: <200311032014.hA3KE5s05339@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:14:04 -0500 From: Neal Traven Subject: one more... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Cc: Neal Traven Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Richard -- will Blanco defeat Jindal in the runoff (when is it?) neal From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 14:35:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA3KZZ6q003283 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:35:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 634171E602E4; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:31:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52F2F1E602E1 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:31:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2F34C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:24:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14299116 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:24:23 -0500 Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (imo-r05.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA3KOMs07178 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:24:22 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.13.244af819 (3948) for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:24:01 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <13.244af819.2cd81360@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:24:00 EST Subject: Re: Q for Natalie To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/3/2003 5:35:56 AM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: > Like why does there need to >be a ceremony? There doesn't, of course, as long as an appropriate >official signs the marriage license, but I wonder why that has to be >done. And something else just occurred to me. How do the officials >know that the person who signed the marriage license (the , >not the witnesses) is a legal marriage performer? Do they check up on >him/her? Does a ever expire? Like even if that >person hasn't worked as a preacher in twenty years and considers himself >an atheist? It's only in this crazy country! All I ever did was go to the courthouse with my ex, signed one piece of paper, and nobody cares about the clerk's religion either. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 14:44:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA3KiL6q003407 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:44:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8E7D81E60056; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:40:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 923FB1E6005A for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:40:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2F380@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:33:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14299618 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:33:03 -0500 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA3KX2s08621 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:33:02 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.ac.4a2d7d10 (3948) for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:32:27 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:32:27 EST Subject: Re: Sound is back! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/3/2003 11:24:06 AM, PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM writes: >Good. BTW, never let the machine win. Never, ever, let the machine win. > Absolutely not! You gotta let them know who's in charge at all times. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 15:01:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA3L1q6q003546 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:01:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 40E3A1E6005C; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:57:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 588FA1E6005A for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:57:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2F3F5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:50:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14300574 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:50:40 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA3Kodh11235 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:50:39 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-167.gwi.net [216.195.157.167]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA3KoaGp053233; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:50:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031103155003.00b1c6b8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 15:50:37 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Sound is back! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:32 PM 11/3/2003 -0500, Theo Groothof wrote: >In a message dated 11/3/2003 11:24:06 AM, PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM writes: > > >Good. BTW, never let the machine win. Never, ever, let the machine win. > > >Absolutely not! You gotta let them know who's in charge at all times. If that question even arises in your mind, you already have lost the battle. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 15:23:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA3LN96q003740 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:23:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D92581E602E7; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:19:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10DBA1E602E4 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:19:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2F545@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:11:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14303497 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:11:57 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA3LBuh15519 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:11:56 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA3LBt8b013791 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:11:55 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA3LBsfC000484 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:11:55 -0500 Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 16:13:51 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: HB Adam and Theo Message-ID: <1558017953.1067876031@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031101062205.00a52840@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77669@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> <4.2.2.20031101062205.00a52840@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> http://www.notre-planete.info/images/compteurimages.php?id=405&rep=paysa >> ges >> >> Pete > > Terry, here are your crop circles! > > Betty Exactly. They do look rather interesting from the air. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 15:53:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA3LrJ6q004111 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:53:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 01BFF1E6008D; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:49:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CCC51E60182 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:49:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2F63B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:42:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14305908 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:42:07 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA3Lg4h21556 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:42:05 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2003110321415701400ch9v2e>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:41:57 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031103133931.02667570@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 13:41:39 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: You've Been Sent A Postcard! In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031102182656.00a3ac00@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031102172205.04090ba0@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty writes, >She is adorable! Can't believe how much she has grown. Is your son still >skating, too? Thanks. :) Yes, Ethan's still skating and enjoying it, too. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 15:56:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA3LuW6q004123 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:56:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2806D1E602E7; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:52:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F2DF1E602E5 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:52:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2F654@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:45:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14306262 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:45:17 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA3LjGh22319 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:45:16 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA3LjG8b015292 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:45:16 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA3LjFfC008544 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:45:15 -0500 Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 16:47:11 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: Words-L Subject: Hurrah! Message-ID: <1560018812.1067878031@TWild.uri.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It's official, my MBA diploma showed up Friday. It was a good experience. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 16:02:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA3M246q004176 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:02:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E7C571E60182; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:57:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 360171E60067 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:57:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2F695@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:50:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14306851 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:50:52 -0500 Received: from razorbill.mail.pas.earthlink.net (razorbill.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.248]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA3Loph23673 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:50:51 -0500 Received: from sdn-ap-021txhousp0064.dialsprint.net ([65.177.16.64] helo=earthlink.net) by razorbill.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AGmb4-00005v-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 03 Nov 2003 13:50:51 -0800 Message-ID: <410-220031113215054361@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: dormarbil@earthlink.net X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2003.2.92.0 (Windows) From: "Doris Smith" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Hurrah! Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:50:54 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-ELNK-Trace: 0f572b91323e03d8e9ef466adc09f07e7e972de0d01da940fc9a2ab7acfc456d6a650a230f75a2df350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wonderful!! Doris Smith dormarbil@earthlink.net Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. > [Original Message] > From: Terry Wild > To: > Date: 11/3/2003 3:45:18 PM > Subject: Hurrah! > > It's official, my MBA diploma showed up Friday. It was a good experience. > > Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 16:31:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA3MVc6q004488 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:31:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9B3FC1E602E1; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:27:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 441E61E60269 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:27:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2F7CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:20:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14309950 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:20:27 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA3MKQh29685 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:20:26 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA3MKN2f004990 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:20:23 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA3MKMJC004968 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:20:22 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031103141624.00a63d90@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 14:17:07 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: You've Been Sent A Postcard! In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031103133931.02667570@mail.istori.com> References: <4.2.2.20031102182656.00a3ac00@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031102172205.04090ba0@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:41 PM 11/3/2003 -0800, you wrote: >Betty writes, > >>She is adorable! Can't believe how much she has grown. Is your son still >>skating, too? > >Thanks. :) Yes, Ethan's still skating and enjoying it, too. I keep wanting to call him Ian and I know it's not right. Joanne skates, do you? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 16:32:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA3MWN6q004504 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:32:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 95B731E60269; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:28:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4870B1E6008D for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:28:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2F7D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:21:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14310014 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:21:12 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA3MLBh29855 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:21:11 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA3MLA2f006565 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:21:10 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA3ML9JC006538 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:21:10 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031103141725.00a63c50@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 14:17:55 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Hurrah! In-Reply-To: <1560018812.1067878031@TWild.uri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:47 PM 11/3/2003 -0500, you wrote: >It's official, my MBA diploma showed up Friday. It was a good experience. > >Terry YaY!!!!! And congratulations, Terry. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 16:39:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA3MdI6q004653 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:39:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AEE0B1E6023A; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:35:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54EE11E6008D for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:35:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001CE70F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:28:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14310460 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:28:07 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA3MS6h30977 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:28:06 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003110322275901600rh6vde>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:28:00 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031103142520.027daeb0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 14:27:42 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: You've Been Sent A Postcard! In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031103141624.00a63d90@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031103133931.02667570@mail.istori.com> <4.2.2.20031102182656.00a3ac00@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031102172205.04090ba0@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark writes, >I keep wanting to call him Ian and I know it's not right. Some people mix him up with "Nathan," too. For a while we thought that maybe he was destined to be Nathan but since we knew an odious one at Caltech, that nixed it for us. >Joanne skates, do you? Pretty well for never having had lessons, but the kids are better than I am now, even Gwynnie. Little ones learn really fast. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 16:43:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA3Mhd6q004712 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:43:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 61DAE1E6023A; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:39:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3237C1E6008D for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:39:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2F846@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:32:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14310851 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:32:28 -0500 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA3MWRh31963 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:32:27 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 03 Nov 2003 14:32:27 PST Message-ID: <20031103223227.70341.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:32:27 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: You've Been Sent A Postcard! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031103142520.027daeb0@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Peter Kaminski wrote: > Betty Clark writes, > >Joanne skates, do you? Or is it Johanne? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 17:19:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA3NJo6q005134 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:19:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C4AC71E6006C; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:15:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96F331E6006A for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:15:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2F938@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:08:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14313385 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:08:38 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA3N8ch04894 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:08:38 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003110323083101500qbfsne>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 23:08:31 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031103150458.0324a7e8@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 15:08:16 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: You've Been Sent A Postcard! In-Reply-To: <20031103223227.70341.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031103142520.027daeb0@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber writes, >Or is it Johanne? Yep, but I'm not a prescriptivist. :) If she were here it would matter more. The mnemonic is that her parents are French-Canadian, and wanted her name to be "zho ann" instead of "zhone," so they had to stick the "h" in. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 17:34:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA3NYX6q005310 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:34:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 38D0B1E6006C; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:30:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AD821E6006A for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:30:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2F98A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:23:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14314218 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:23:22 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA3NNLh06944 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:23:21 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA3NNKeO024314 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:23:20 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA3NNJa2024295 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:23:20 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031103151858.00a5a590@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 15:20:05 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: You've Been Sent A Postcard! In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031103150458.0324a7e8@mail.istori.com> References: <20031103223227.70341.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031103142520.027daeb0@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:08 PM 11/3/2003 -0800, you wrote: >Lynne Weber writes, > >>Or is it Johanne? > >Yep, but I'm not a prescriptivist. :) > >If she were here it would matter more. > >The mnemonic is that her parents are French-Canadian, and wanted her name >to be "zho ann" instead of "zhone," so they had to stick the "h" in. > >Pete I wasn't sure of the spelling. I have it at home in my address book but I didn't want to say "your wife" when I knew her name. I assumed Karen would correct me but Lynne seems to be filling in for everyone. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 18:00:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA40056q005584 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:00:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6A4BC1E6018C; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:55:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B9B31E60071 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:55:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2FA25@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:48:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14315543 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:48:53 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA3Nmrh10235 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:48:53 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA3NmpWt966728 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:48:51 -0600 Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:48:51 -0600 (CST) From: nam gal sips clark X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Q of Hours In-Reply-To: <20031030193747.99815.qmail@web20516.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031030193747.99815.qmail@web20516.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > Compliance is not mandatory, but all meebers are > encouraged to participate. There's some weird wording in IRS regs along the lines of "compliance is not mandatory, but payment is". Thanks for the reminder. I think I missed my 15-Sep estimated payment. I know it's too late for your poll, but here (at UNO) it's 8:30 to 4:30. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 18:02:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA402A6q005605 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:02:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 339FB1E60213; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:58:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05B771E60071 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:58:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001CE913@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:50:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14315599 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:50:59 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA3Norh10515 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:50:53 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.179.179]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031103235048.JOEK1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:50:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA6E9D9.814A3653@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 17:50:49 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: FW: Good news on the MRI scan. References: <000101c39fd9$a2040d40$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> <6.0.0.22.0.20031103134155.0272a8d0@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen Ore wrote: > > Very good!! > 13:05 31.10.2003 -0500 skrev Alec D. Plotkin: > >Good news for Heide. I thought I would share some good news. Yes!! That news came when I was on nomail. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 18:02:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA402n6q005618 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:02:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 27EF91E60213; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:58:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECFEE1E60071 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:58:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2FA1F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:51:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14315614 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:51:37 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA3Npbh10603 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:51:37 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA3NpaWt7340046 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:51:36 -0600 Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:51:36 -0600 (CST) From: nam gal sips clark X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: cable In-Reply-To: <20031031002757.93755.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031031002757.93755.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > If it were a police officer who had been caught saying > those things I thought I'd never meet a more foulmouthed individual than a Chicago PO, but the guys I happened to find myself with on Hallowe'en raised the bar a few notches. -- like the foc'sle on a tramp steamer From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 18:07:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA407U6q005671 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:07:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D44241E602E1; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:03:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A09651E602CC for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:03:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2FA2E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:56:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14315931 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:56:18 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA3NuIh11643 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:56:18 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA3NuGWt3923984 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:56:17 -0600 Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:56:16 -0600 (CST) From: nam gal sips clark X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: troops and suicides: no worry, Rumsfeld is on the case In-Reply-To: <20031031023314.89671.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031031023314.89671.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: (do I respond to anyone else?) > Nothing resembling Archie or Freddie Arbuthnot? What was that cable show a while back (A&E?) with Timothy Bottoms as Archie and I-do-not-know as Nero Wolfe? Man, to me they really nailed the casting, and the way they handled all those stories from the different eras without addressing it directly was pretty cool. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 18:09:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA409V6q005704 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:09:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7E2741E602E4; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:05:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 478921E602E1 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:05:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2FA35@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:58:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14316020 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:58:10 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA3Nw9h11874 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:58:09 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.179.179]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031103235804.JQSW1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:58:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA6EB8D.9DC9E2B@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 17:58:05 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Q of Hours Results References: <3FA476E9.930444CC@maynor.net> <20031102032659.60332.qmail@web20516.mail.yahoo.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20031103135723.02723128@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen Ore wrote: > (This whole idea about academics being in their office the whole day from 8-4 is probably coming from the office side with administrators jealous of the the freedom the academics (used to) have.) That kind of routine would lead to a big hole in the productivity of many people here, who do their major work at home. I've always been considered in my department for showing up in the office every day. Teaching schedules are normally designed to allow whole days at home doing research/writing. > And now for a digression: there was supposed to be a message sent out to everyone at the Univ. of Oslo: "You are not allowed to sleep in your office outside the working hours." I used to hear an alarm clock going off from time to time in an office next door to mine, suggesting to me that my colleague was sleeping (inside working hours), but then I discovered that it was his reminder of things like going to class. Re outside working hours, I've known several cases of people who have lived in their offices for periods of time -- usually involving things like divorces. One historian I knew lived in his office with a basset hound for several months. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 18:10:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA40As6q005709 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:10:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0A2EE1E602CC; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:06:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFA9F1E602C8 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:06:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2FA38@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:59:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14316072 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:59:42 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA3Nxgh12011 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:59:42 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.179.179]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031103235937.JRFS1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:59:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA6EBE9.6AEDFF97@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 17:59:37 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Word Q References: <1852525838.20031103073351@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > What is an equestrian neighborhood? (The CA lawyer who was shot lives > in one.) Perhaps a horsey neighborhood -- as in the kind of people who live there? Or perhaps a neighborhood with huge yards that include room for their horses? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 18:13:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA40DU6q005739 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:13:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BEB761E602C8; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:09:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AF861E60213 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:09:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001CE960@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:02:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14316124 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:02:18 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA402Ih12316 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:02:18 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.179.179]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031104000213.JSDD1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:02:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA6EC85.FEC9F0AC@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 18:02:13 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Word Q [att: Bethany] References: <1852525838.20031103073351@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU PS: Speaking of equestrians -- are you reading, Bethany? Check the weather forecast for Hattiesburg. I haven't checked the forecast (for here) since last night, but it said last night that very warm weather is going to continue all week. If it's to be in the mid 80s here, I would guess high 80s or low 90s in south Mississippi. Iow, don't pack your longjohns. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 18:20:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA40Kq6q005805 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:20:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5DB261E60063; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:16:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29DE21E60062 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:16:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2FA6E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:09:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14316515 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:09:40 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA409dh13286 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:09:40 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.179.179]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031104000934.JUQS1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:09:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA6EE3F.800FC5BE@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 18:09:35 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Q of Hours Results References: <20031103135548.24634.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > --- Espen Ore wrote: > > And now for a digression: there was supposed to be a > > message sent out to everyone at the Univ. of Oslo: > > "You are not allowed to sleep in your office outside > > the working hours." > > That begs the question, what about "during the working hours"? Hmm. I think the old meaning of begging the question can probably be declared dead now. When people like Lynne use it this way, I'd say that the change has made it to the "this is what it means" stage. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 18:26:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA40Qr6q005866 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:26:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3A6CC1E600D0; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:22:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08F371E60073 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:22:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2FA70@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:15:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14316732 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:15:41 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA40Feh13925 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:15:40 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.179.179]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031104001535.JWQP1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:15:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA6EFA8.B9C87B92@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 18:15:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Q for Natalie References: <200311031541.hA3Ffca13950@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Yes, it matters whether the signatory is licensed to perform marriages > within a specific jurisdiction or not (eg state, religious district). Some > people can perform a marriage, but only in their own parish or only under > supervision. And yes, the terms under which a person is licensed can change > (they can move to a new jurisdiction and get permission to perform > marriages there; they can retire, and be restricted to performing marriages > locally, they can lose their endorsement). Interesting. I wonder why the person who performed our marriage many years ago was licensed to do so. I am confident that he was in that he is not at all the sort to have done it either ignorantly or illegally. He was an ordained Presbyterian minister of the variety that isn't the common Presbyterian variety around here. I've forgotten the labels. But he hadn't ministered in years. He was an instructor in Sociology and was a bartender. We got married standing at the bar he was tending. I think I might have mentioned before that many years later I wondered whether we were legally married since the marriage license was gotten in Oktibbeha County, but we got married in Lowndes County. (There were no bars in Oktibbeha County at that time.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 18:29:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA40TQ6q005876 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:29:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3ED9D1E6006D; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:25:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C10B1E60063 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:25:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2FA84@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:18:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14316896 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:18:14 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA40IDh14338 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:18:13 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA40ICWt7094420 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:18:12 -0600 Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:18:12 -0600 (CST) From: nam gal sips clark X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: one more... In-Reply-To: <200311032014.hA3KE5s05339@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: References: <200311032014.hA3KE5s05339@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 3 Nov 2003, Neal Traven wrote: > Richard -- will Blanco defeat Jindal in the runoff (when is it?) The election is 15-Nov. I haven't seen _anyone_ who's made a guess on the results. All the polls make it too close to call, and no one addresses the question of what people way up north in Monroe and Shreveport think about choosing between the dusky-skinned foreign guy and the Catholic woman from down there in Popish territory (notwithstanding the fact that Jindal's a catlicker, too, as well as a native-born USAer). Around these parts, people see Blanco as the career politician, and Jindal as the outgoing governor's lapdog. Nice choice. They more or less agree on every substantial matter (and you, Neal, prolly disagree with them, but this is the choice there is) so it really is a beauty contest. It beats having to pick between Edwin Edwards and David Duke, though. -- is it too late to draft Earl Long? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 18:34:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA40Y16q005922 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:34:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3D6291E600D0; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:29:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A2B41E60073 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:29:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2FAB6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:22:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14317245 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:22:49 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA40Mmh14871 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:22:48 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA40MlWt802926 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:22:47 -0600 Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:22:47 -0600 (CST) From: nam gal sips clark X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hurrah! In-Reply-To: <1560018812.1067878031@TWild.uri.edu> Message-ID: References: <1560018812.1067878031@TWild.uri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 3 Nov 2003, Terry Wild wrote: > It's official, my MBA diploma showed up Friday. Kongratz! Now you have ammo for those academics who demand that you address them as "doctor". "Well, O.K., if we're going to do the academic title thing..." -- ruesifus jr, the doctor of doctoring doctorology From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 18:34:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA40YF6q005925 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:34:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4FF2A1E600D0; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:30:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 222D61E60078 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:30:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2FAB8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:23:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14317265 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:23:03 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA40N2h14914 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:23:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.179.179]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031104002257.JZCD1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:22:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA6F15F.879A17A7@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 18:22:55 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor Q References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7766D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > I don't > believe anyone has been voted out immediately after whining, but they've > never lasted much longer, either. Osten lasted a good while after his first whining. > The twist of bringing back the Outcasts, was IMO, exceptionally creative. Yes. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 18:35:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA40ZM6q005928 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:35:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B39851E600D0; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:31:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 861BC1E60078 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:31:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001CE9B0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:24:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14317315 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:24:10 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA40OAh15027 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:24:10 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.179.179]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031104002404.JZML1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:24:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA6F1A5.E3DBCCF@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 18:24:05 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sound is back! References: <410-22003111316520368@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm glad your sound returned! Don't leave us now. Hang around. And speaking of Dorises, where is DorisM? Is she out of town? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 18:36:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA40ao6q005932 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:36:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1DCD01E600D0; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:32:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEAD01E60077 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:32:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2FAD0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:25:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14317374 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:25:31 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA40PVh15165 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:25:31 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.179.179]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031104002525.JZYL1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:25:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA6F1F6.62832959@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 18:25:26 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sound is back! References: <20031103192548.92265.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > ("Never give up. Never, ever, give up. -W. > > Churchill (I think) > > Quite so. And he never did. I wrote a research paper in high school on WC's speeches and loved it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 18:40:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA40e76q005964 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:40:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E824C1E600D0; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:35:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B905D1E60077 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:35:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2FACA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:28:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14317584 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:28:52 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA40Sqh15599 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:28:52 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.179.179]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031104002846.KBAS1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:28:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA6F2BF.EED8CEEB@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 18:28:47 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group , Neal Traven Subject: Re: inside skinny? References: <200311032011.hA3KBPs04733@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Neal Traven wrote: > > Erev Election Day... > > Natalie -- will Musgrove hold off Haley Barbour? I don't know. Polls have them very close. My gut worries me by saying that Haley is going to win. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 18:40:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA40ec6q005967 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:40:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D39A21E600D0; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:36:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A62451E60078 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:36:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2FADB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:29:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14317606 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:29:26 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA40TQh15696 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:29:26 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA40TOWt9224198 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:29:24 -0600 Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:29:24 -0600 (CST) From: nam gal sips clark X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Q of Hours Results In-Reply-To: <3FA6EE3F.800FC5BE@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <20031103135548.24634.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> <3FA6EE3F.800FC5BE@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 3 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Hmm. I think the old meaning of begging the >question can probably be declared dead now. No. No. Stand up for what is right. There is a perfectly good expression, namely "raises the question", that serves the purpose. I have severally e-mailed the ENTIRE STAFF of the Times-Picayune's sports department to please-for-the-love-of-God look up "beg the question" before using it again. And as for "apropos"? Please, I have a headache. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 18:43:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA40hH6q006003 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:43:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 974831E60078; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:39:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 686A81E60077 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:39:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2FAE3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:32:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14317699 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:32:05 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA40W5h16096 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:32:05 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.179.179]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031104003159.KCGB1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:31:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA6F37E.ECE41BA3@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 18:31:58 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Q for Natalie References: <13.244af819.2cd81360@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > It's only in this crazy country! All I ever did was go to the courthouse with > my ex, signed one piece of paper, and nobody cares about the clerk's religion > either. ? Religious ceremonies are not a requirement here either. All that is required is that somebody of signs the marriage license. Possible include, but certainly are not limited to, preachers (since many people like having religious weddings). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 18:43:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA40hw6q006011 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:43:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 242161E602C8; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:39:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA1751E600D0 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:39:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2FAF2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:32:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14317724 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:32:44 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA40Whh16185 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:32:43 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2003110400323601400qj41ae> (Authid: adamh1); Tue, 4 Nov 2003 00:32:37 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Sound is back! Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:32:34 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20031103192548.92265.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > ("Never give up. Never, ever, give up. -W. > > Churchill (I think) > > Quite so. And he never did. It helped that he was bombed on brandy and cigars for a lot of the tense days. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 18:44:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA40iD6q006022 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:44:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 633511E600D0; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:40:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34F051E60078 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:40:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2FADD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:33:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14317757 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:33:01 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA40Wuh16224 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:32:56 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.179.179]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031104003250.KCOH1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:32:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA6F3B3.AA980372@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 18:32:51 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hurrah! References: <1560018812.1067878031@TWild.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Terry Wild wrote: > > It's official, my MBA diploma showed up Friday. It was a good experience. Congratulations! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 18:45:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA40jY6q006043 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:45:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3B18E1E60077; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:41:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A1571E60078 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:41:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2FAFF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:34:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14317822 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:34:09 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA40Y9h16413 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:34:09 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.179.179]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031104003401.KCZW1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:34:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA6F3FA.49555EBA@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 18:34:02 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: You've Been Sent A Postcard! References: <4.2.2.20031102182656.00a3ac00@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031102172205.04090ba0@mail.istori.com> <5.1.1.5.2.20031103141624.00a63d90@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > >Thanks. :) Yes, Ethan's still skating and enjoying it, too. > > I keep wanting to call him Ian and I know it's not right. Joanne skates, do > you? I'm feeling less and less bad about having called your daughter Lucinda. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 18:49:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA40nO6q006065 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:49:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 23A701E600D0; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:45:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA9BC1E60078 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:45:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2FB0D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:38:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14318088 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:38:11 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA40cBh17109 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:38:11 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA40c9Wt917690 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:38:10 -0600 Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:38:09 -0600 (CST) From: nam gal sips clark X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sound is back! In-Reply-To: <3FA6F1F6.62832959@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <20031103192548.92265.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> <3FA6F1F6.62832959@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 3 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I wrote a research paper in high school on WC's speeches and loved it. There's a delicious tale that there was a voice double for Churchill's wartime radio addresses, as WC himself was often too drunk to do the job himself. Which the obvious line "I wish I had somebody to talk for me when I'm drunk." -- baby, while you're up, can you beer me? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 18:51:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA40pY6q006094 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:51:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6AA201E60078; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:47:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 382971E6006A for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:47:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2FB02@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:40:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14318159 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:40:22 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA40eLh17332 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:40:22 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2003110400401601400qj421e> (Authid: adamh1); Tue, 4 Nov 2003 00:40:16 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Hurrah! Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:40:13 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > It's official, my MBA diploma showed up Friday. Congratulations, Terry! Now, what do you plan to do with it? --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 18:56:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA40uL6q006145 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:56:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6F68E1E6006A; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:52:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DEA21E60069 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:52:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001CEA14@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:45:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14318398 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:45:09 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA40j9h18061 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:45:09 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001CEA37@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:45:08 -0500 Message-Id: <200311040045.hA40j9h18061@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:45:08 -0500 From: Neal Traven Subject: Re: election returns To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Cc: Neal Traven Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Way back when, On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:22:58 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Neal Traven wrote: > >> Well, gotta hit the road so that I can go listen to Paul Krugman over at >> UDub this evening... > >Please get his autograph for me -- except that I bet you've already >left. I love PK. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I didn't get PK's autograph that night, even though one of the questions he answered was submitted by me. Too big a crowd around him after the talk. The book signing was co-sponsored by the University Bookstore and the World Affairs Council. The latter asked the audience to fill out comment cards, with the added enticement that those who gave their names would not only be added to the WAC's mailing list but also be entered into a drawing for a copy of PK's book. I thought nothing more about it until a couple of weeks after the event, when a bulky mailer appeared on my doorstep. Yep, I'm the proud owner of "The Great Unraveling", and I do have PK's scribbled autograph on the book's title page. neal From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 18:57:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA40vx6q006152 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:57:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5025D1E6006A; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:53:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21D581E60069 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:53:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2FB22@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:46:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14318487 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:46:47 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA40kkh18300 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:46:46 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA40kk8b020586 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:46:46 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA40kkfC004837 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:46:46 -0500 Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 19:48:42 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hurrah! Message-ID: <1570909343.1067888922@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: References: <1560018812.1067878031@TWild.uri.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Kongratz! > Thanks. > Now you have ammo for those academics who > demand that you address them as "doctor". > > "Well, O.K., if we're going to do the > academic title thing..." > But that's just the problem I was discussing with a cow orker. There isn't a title, at least not here. Terry > -- > ruesifus jr, the doctor of doctoring doctorology From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 18:59:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA40xb6q006160 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:59:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F27101E600D0; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:55:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C55561E60078 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:55:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2FB29@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:48:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14318567 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:48:24 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA40mOh18481 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:48:24 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA40mO8b020615 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:48:24 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA40mOfC005033 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:48:24 -0500 Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 19:50:20 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hurrah! Message-ID: <1571007062.1067889020@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thanks to everyone for your well wishes! > Congratulations, Terry! > > Now, what do you plan to do with it? > Hang it on the wall. :-) Terry > --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 19:04:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA414Q6q006195 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:04:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C8CCB1E60078; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:00:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BA7C1E6006A for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:00:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001CEA54@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:53:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14318739 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:53:07 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA40r7h18899 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:53:07 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA40r78b020746 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:53:07 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA40r7fC005745 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:53:07 -0500 Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 19:55:03 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hurrah! Message-ID: <1571290125.1067889303@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Now, what do you plan to do with it? > Ok, Ok... I have no immediate plans, as it has taken me 5 years and I need a breather. I will of course keep my eyes open, one never knows when opportunity comes knocking. Of course I might decide in a couple of years when Ed gets in school I need to get a Dr. title. My boss said, "I suppose you want a raise." I said, "Sure, but I know I won't get one." State systems are not good at rewarding. Terry > --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 19:06:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA416o6q006212 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:06:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EB6B81E6006A; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:02:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDDE61E60069 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:02:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001CEA49@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:55:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14318907 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:55:36 -0500 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA40tZh19190 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:55:36 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.11f.271f04f3 (4426) for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:55:28 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <11f.271f04f3.2cd85300@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:55:28 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Hurrah! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Congratulations, Terry! Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Trying to make sense of the latest Big O From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 19:14:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA41E36q006308 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:14:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D27401E60077; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:09:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A48811E60069 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:09:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2FB7A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:02:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14319365 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:02:50 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA412oh20557 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:02:50 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-167.gwi.net [216.195.157.167]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA412lGp093848; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:02:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031103195956.00b4a678@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 20:02:38 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Sound is back! In-Reply-To: References: <20031103192548.92265.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:32 PM 11/3/2003 -0500, Adam Hartfield wrote: > > > ("Never give up. Never, ever, give up. -W. > > > Churchill (I think) > > > > Quite so. And he never did. > >It helped that he was bombed on brandy and cigars for a lot of the tense >days. There are a couple of schools of thought on this. One has it that he often was as you alluded. The other is that although he often had a scotch and soda to sip on, his drinks were very weak. And how do you get bombed on cigars? Nauseous, perhaps, but bombed? cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 19:17:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA41HB6q006343 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:17:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4B2E61E60078; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:13:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BFBD1E6006A for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:13:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2FB9A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:05:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14319562 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:05:59 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA415wh20962 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:05:58 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-167.gwi.net [216.195.157.167]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA415uGp094423 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:05:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031103200423.00b62740@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 20:05:58 -0500 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: weather report (by Bethany or a relative of hers?) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 408 PM EST Mon Nov 3 2003 ...A preview of winter is on the way... A cold front will cross Maine tonight and introduce colder and drier air into the area. This will set the stage for a round of winter like weather late Tuesday and Tuesday night as a warm front approaches. Precipitation is expected to develop Tuesday evening over the downeast area and then spread quickly north Tuesday night. Snow is expected at the onset...but will transition to sleet and freezing rain as warmer air works in aloft. The precipiation will change to all rain over coastal areas after midnight. Over the far north...ar0und 3 inches of snow is expected by early Wednesday with 1 to 2 inches central areas. Up to 1 inch of sleet is possible in some of this area. Over the downeast...1 inch or less of snow and sleet is expected. Slipper travel conditions are expected Tuesday evening over the downeast and then throughout eastern and northern Maine Tuesday night. Listern to NOAA Weather Radio or your local media for updates. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 19:22:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA41Ms6q006442 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:22:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1D7651E6006B; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:18:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E36F91E6006A for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:18:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2FBB7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:11:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14319759 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:11:41 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA41Bfh21461 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:11:41 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20031104011135013005dm61e> (Authid: adamh1); Tue, 4 Nov 2003 01:11:35 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Sound is back! Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:11:32 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031103195956.00b4a678@pop.gwi.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > was as you alluded. The other is that although he often had a scotch and > soda to sip on, his drinks were very weak. And how do you get bombed on > cigars? Nauseous, perhaps, but bombed? >From what I've read, he used to soak his cigars in brandy, and then drink different brandy while smoking the cigar. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 19:26:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA41QE6q006460 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:26:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0F1661E6006A; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:22:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1B741E60069 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:22:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2FBC8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:15:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14319918 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:15:01 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA41F1h21964 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:15:01 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.179.179]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031104011456.SDSE1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:14:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA6FD90.52E10978@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 19:14:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Word Q [att: Bethany] References: <1852525838.20031103073351@WordWrite.com> <3FA6EC85.FEC9F0AC@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > If it's to be in the mid 80s here, I would > guess high 80s or low 90s in south Mississippi. Iow, don't pack your > longjohns. I just checked the weather again for the first time in 24+ hours and see that the forecast has changed to slightly cooler weather. Still no longjohns, though. More like New England summer. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 19:27:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA41RE6q006477 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:27:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E6E9B1E60070; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:23:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B74FA1E60069 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:23:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001CEACA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:16:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14319956 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:16:01 -0500 Received: from stork.mail.pas.earthlink.net (stork.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.188]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA41G1h22110 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:16:01 -0500 Received: from sdn-ap-021txhousp0064.dialsprint.net ([65.177.16.64] helo=earthlink.net) by stork.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AGpnc-0007M3-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 03 Nov 2003 17:16:00 -0800 Message-ID: <410-2200311241164412@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: dormarbil@earthlink.net X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2003.2.92.0 (Windows) From: "Doris Smith" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Re: Sound is back! Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:16:04 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-ELNK-Trace: 0f572b91323e03d8e9ef466adc09f07e7e972de0d01da940a5e77439a6d54d363ee55641fccde99e350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Yes, Doris M is out of town. She'll return........ Tomorrow I'm supposed to *finally* get fast Internet service. Out here in the boondocks we can't get cable Internet hookup, nor can we get DSL. It is only recently that two more satellites were launched, so now there are three. When there was only one, we couldn't get hooked up because we live in a forest and had no clear, unobstructed view to the south. Now we don't need to be totally south, for there is a satellite slightly to the sw that we can use. At least that's what we've been told and tomorrow will be the test. The fellow said he'd string the wiring in through the window first to make sure we get it before he does all of the intricate attaching. No more dial-up service will be great! The best I can do most times is 26.4 kbs!! Doris Smith dormarbil@earthlink.net Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. > [Original Message] > From: Natalie Maynor > To: > Date: 11/3/2003 6:24:10 PM > Subject: Re: Sound is back! > > I'm glad your sound returned! Don't leave us now. Hang around. And > speaking of Dorises, where is DorisM? Is she out of town? > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 19:35:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA41ZP6q006537 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:35:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A082A1E6006B; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:31:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 706161E60069 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:31:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2FBC4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:24:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14319905 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:24:13 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA41ECh21849 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:14:12 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA41DaKE032134 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:13:36 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:14:12 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Word Q [att: Bethany] In-Reply-To: <3FA6EC85.FEC9F0AC@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <1852525838.20031103073351@WordWrite.com> <3FA6EC85.FEC9F0AC@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 3 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >PS: Speaking of equestrians -- are you reading, Bethany? Check the >weather forecast for Hattiesburg. I haven't checked the forecast (for >here) since last night, but it said last night that very warm weather is >going to continue all week. If it's to be in the mid 80s here, I would >guess high 80s or low 90s in south Mississippi. Iow, don't pack your >longjohns. Thanks - I have been assuming 100 degrees! So what do I wear in the courtroom? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 19:36:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA41a96q006554 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:36:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8427A1E6006B; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:32:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5528E1E6006A for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:32:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2FBE0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:24:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14320201 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:24:57 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA41Ovh22973 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:24:57 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.179.179]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031104012443.SJAX1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:24:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA6FFDC.F8E4AA7D@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 19:24:44 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Q of Hours Results References: <20031103135548.24634.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> <3FA6EE3F.800FC5BE@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU nam gal sips clark wrote: > > On Mon, 3 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >Hmm. I think the old meaning of begging the > >question can probably be declared dead now. > > No. > > No. Stand up for what is right. > > There is a perfectly good expression, > namely "raises the question", that > serves the purpose. Language doesn't work that way. All living languages change. There can be some confusion during changes. I don't think many people would be greatly confused by which usage of "begging the question" they're hearing/seeing since the context would make it clear. But there can be confusion about changes like the meaning of "disinterested." So yes, there can be a bit of confusion with change in progress, but, once effected, the change is not bad. It's just change. The change to intransitive "lay" might even be considered good since it can cut down on possible ambiguity. I think I've said this before. In my grammar, "He was lying on the beach" is ambiguous. For future generations, after all of us intransitive-lie users are dead, there would be no ambiguity. He was telling distruths on the beach. My awareness of that improvement does not keep me from feeling fingernails-on-the-blackboardish when I hear "he was laying on the beach." Nor does it keep "redneck speech" from popping up involuntarily in my mind when I hear that. It's not redneck speech, however. It's language change. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 19:36:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA41aw6q006572 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:36:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F18961E60077; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:32:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFA571E60069 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:32:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2FBD5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:25:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14319952 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:25:45 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA41Fjh22068 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:15:45 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA41F9KE032540 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:15:09 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:15:45 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Q of Hours Results In-Reply-To: <3FA6EE3F.800FC5BE@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <20031103135548.24634.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> <3FA6EE3F.800FC5BE@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 3 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> --- Espen Ore wrote: >> > And now for a digression: there was supposed to be a >> > message sent out to everyone at the Univ. of Oslo: >> > "You are not allowed to sleep in your office outside >> > the working hours." >> >> That begs the question, what about "during the working hours"? > >Hmm. I think the old meaning of begging the question can probably be >declared dead now. When people like Lynne use it this >way, I'd say that the change has made it to the "this is what it means" >stage. You are very charitable, Natalie. I would say, "Huh? It begs no question. It raises one." Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 19:39:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA41dK6q006589 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:39:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 43EEC1E6006A; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:35:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1555E1E60069 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:35:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2FBDD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:28:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14320283 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:28:08 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA41S7h23279 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:28:07 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.179.179]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031104012802.SKUG1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:28:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA700A2.F2FB9422@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 19:28:02 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: election returns References: <200311040045.hA40j9h18061@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Neal Traven wrote: > I thought nothing more about it until a couple of weeks after the event, > when a bulky mailer appeared on my doorstep. Yep, I'm the proud owner > of "The Great Unraveling", and I do have PK's scribbled autograph on the > book's title page. Neat! Although not of Paul Krugman's stature, Bill Minor, a Mississippi columnist, was at MSU last Thursday afternoon. I hated that I had to be on my way to Jackson at that time and thus missed hearing him since he, like Paul Krugman, is one of my journalist heroes. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 19:41:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA41fV6q006618 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:41:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3A35A1E6006A; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:37:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04B171E60069 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:37:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2FBD3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:30:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14320097 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:30:19 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA41KIh22683 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:20:18 -0500 Received: (qmail 75065 invoked by uid 1003); 4 Nov 2003 01:20:17 -0000 Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:20:16 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: The dying of the light Message-ID: <20031104012016.GA69005@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Possibly the one book which trumps "Bobos in Paradise" in all departments: 1 Less content 2 Worse writing 3 Smaller readership 4 More inbred redership 5 More complacent readership 6 More racket-making readership #3 is what gives one hope ... maybe it means that the audience for this kind of low-grade "insights" is about to dwindle and die ... To be sure, I only read a couple of reviews, but is that not all it takes? From Publishers Weekly At the Great Indoors, a hugely successful department store chain, customers can choose from among 250 lavatory faucets. If that represents too little variety, there are more than 1,500 distinct models of drawer pulls. Like it or not, we live in an age where we can minutely dictate every aesthetic choice, to an extent our ancestors would certainly have found disturbingly wasteful and superficial. It is this censure that New York Times economics columnist Postrel is dead-set on dismantling. Aligning herself against "pleasure-hating" modernists like Walter Gropius and Adolf Loos, Postrel adopts the position that fashion has meaning. One of her argument's charms is that she allows Joe Q. Ray-Ban his own justification for his purchase ("I like it") against the interpretations of theorists who insist an interest in surfaces is linked with deception, status or falsehood. Postrel's apt example of the proliferation in toilet-brush design is an effective rebuttal against such theorists-after all, nobody buys a sleek toilet brush to impress neighbors who will never see it, so aesthetics must constitute much of the rationale. Increasingly, form is simply part of the function. Postrel begins by explaining that appearance has a meaning commensurate to loftier values, then examines the many manifestations of this truth. While her argument is intellectually sophisticated, Postrel's journalistic training ensures the examples she cites are well-chosen and the prose remains crisp and readable. Gracefully representing one endpoint of a certain debate, this ambitious book may someday become a classic of the genre. Copyright 2003 Reed Business Information, Inc. I.e. you long for earplugs in the presence of this yenta ... From Booklist It's enough to make your head hurt, this very conscious, contemporary, intellectual interpretation of Keats' "Beauty is life, life, Beauty." "Head hurt" is absolutely right ... But I am glad for the insight that fashion has meaning! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 19:43:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA41hE6q006657 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:43:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E20521E6006A; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:39:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B262A1E60069 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:39:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2FBD6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:32:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14320390 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:32:01 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA41W1h23788 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:32:01 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.179.179]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031104013156.SMXK1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:31:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA7018C.F269891A@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 19:31:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hurrah! References: <1571290125.1067889303@TWild.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Terry Wild wrote: > Ok, Ok... I have no immediate plans, as it has taken me 5 years and I need > a breather. But surely you have nothing else to do with your time! You must just sit around twiddling your thumbs for hours with nothing more to tend to than three young children, a job, and Alan! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 19:57:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA41vH6q006803 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:57:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A400D1E60077; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:53:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766A11E60075 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:53:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001CEB13@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:46:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14320518 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:46:04 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA41a4h24102 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:36:04 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA41ZRKE005993 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:35:27 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:36:03 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: urinals Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I am not lying - home urinals are featured on page 1 of the WSJ today. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 19:58:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA41wF6q006853 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:58:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EAC1A1E60070; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:54:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBBF91E6006A for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:54:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001CEB39@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:46:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14320994 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:46:47 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA41kkh25508 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:46:46 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.179.179]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031104014641.JLEY1849.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:46:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA70502.249D0B56@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 19:46:42 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Word Q [att: Bethany] References: <1852525838.20031103073351@WordWrite.com> <3FA6EC85.FEC9F0AC@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Thanks - I have been assuming 100 degrees! So what do I wear in the > courtroom? Sorry, but I don't know nuthin' bout no courtroom attire. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 19:59:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA41x46q006879 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:59:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9B4911E6007A; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:54:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D0661E60077 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:54:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001CEB19@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:47:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14321037 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:47:51 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA41lph25652 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:47:51 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.179.179]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031104014742.JLNQ1849.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:47:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA7053F.364B0922@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 19:47:43 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Q of Hours Results References: <20031103135548.24634.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> <3FA6EE3F.800FC5BE@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > You are very charitable, Natalie. I would say, "Huh? It begs no > question. It raises one." Not charitable. Just a watcher of language change in progress. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 20:01:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA421g6q006900 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:01:42 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ACF3E1E60077; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:57:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C6501E60075 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:57:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2FC21@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:50:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14321133 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:50:29 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA41oTh25914 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:50:29 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.179.179]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031104015005.JMKM1849.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:50:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA705CE.4AF5953D@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 19:50:06 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sound is back! References: <410-2200311241164412@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Smith wrote: > Tomorrow I'm supposed to *finally* get fast Internet service. YaY! It is worth every penny! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 20:10:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA42Ai6q007039 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:10:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A530D1E60070; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:06:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7687C1E60069 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:06:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2FC59@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:59:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14321447 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:59:31 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA41xVh26887 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:59:31 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.179.179]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031104015921.JPYX1849.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:59:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA707F8.A75B6458@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 19:59:20 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Neal Traven , Words-L Subject: Musgrove Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In another answer to your question, Neal, here's a letter to the editor that was in the Starkville Daily News last Thursday. I waited too late to send one to the Clarion-Ledger, which is way, way behind in letters, but sent this one to the SDN at the urging of the former chair of our local Democratic Party. I wasn't really in the mood to get into letters to the editor right now, but my conscience told me that I should -- that even if a couple of votes got picked up by it, it would be worth it. ******** For the past several months, Haley Barbour has been bringing in a parade of high-profile national Republicans to tell us that he is the man for governor. What does this tell us about Haley Barbour? Is it because he has no confidence in his own Mississippi record that he feels the need to have all these people come here to tell Mississippians how to vote? What do these in-and-out visitors know about Mississippi? They do know Barbour, of course, since he has been part of their corporate cronyism, working for special interests that have in the long run hurt our state. Barbour's supporters argue that having friends in high places is good, not bad. Certainly that can be true. But it depends on the kinds of friends. Do we really want a governor who is under the influence of people like George W. Bush and Dick Cheney? The Bush/Cheney administration has been a disaster. The economy is in the worst shape it's been in in decades. Millions of jobs have been lost, and the budget surplus is gone. Thanks partially to tax cuts for the wealthy, the U.S. now has the largest deficit in history. This administration has gotten us into a war with Iraq, a war dishonestly sold to the American public through false information about weapons of mass destruction and imaginary connections between Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden. Every day our troops are dying or being injured in this war that is looking more and more like another Vietnam. Billions of dollars are being spent to rebuild a country that we helped destroy, money which could be used to put people back to work in this country. Because of the failed Bush/Cheney economic and foreign policies, every state in the nation is having budget problems. Every incumbent governor is being blamed for these problems when the real blame should go to Bush and Cheney, the very men Haley Barbour is calling on to help him become governor. Can Mississippi afford to elect a man who will bring the failed policies of the Bush/Cheney administration to Mississippi? I say no. The logical choice in this election is Ronnie Musgrove. For real progress in Mississippi, vote Democratic. Vote for the party that cares about every person, not just wealthy cronies. Natalie Maynor address: 110 White Drive, Starkville phone: 323-8384 ******************* -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 20:23:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA42NZ6q007224 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:23:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A33021E60075; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:19:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73B5D1E60069 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:19:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001CEB92@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:12:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14322022 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:11:36 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA42BZh28824 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:11:36 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA42BZ8b022568 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:11:35 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA42BZfC016673 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:11:35 -0500 Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 21:13:31 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sound is back! Message-ID: <1575998218.1067894011@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <410-2200311241164412@earthlink.net> References: <410-2200311241164412@earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --On Monday, November 03, 2003 7:16 PM -0600 Doris Smith wrote: > Out here in > the boondocks we can't get cable Internet hookup, nor can we get DSL. It > is only recently that two more satellites were launched, so now there are > three. When there was only one, we couldn't get hooked up because we live > in a forest and had no clear, unobstructed view to the south. We had the same problem last week when DirecTV came to hook up local channels. He spied through his little glass and said can't do it here. You need to take out *all* those trees!. Seems the 2 satellites are just far enough apart, and the locals come in very low. So after further consultation, we're getting a local company to do a site survey and we'll see what that means. Cutting a few trees is OK, having to clear the forest is a different story. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 20:32:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA42WH6q007278 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:32:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 00EE21E60075; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:28:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B5B1E60074 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:28:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2FC93@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:21:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14322365 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:21:04 -0500 Received: from heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net (heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.189]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA42L4h29795 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:21:04 -0500 Received: from sdn-ap-021txhousp0064.dialsprint.net ([65.177.16.64] helo=earthlink.net) by heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AGqoZ-0000cu-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 03 Nov 2003 18:21:03 -0800 Message-ID: <410-2200311242217605@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: dormarbil@earthlink.net X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2003.2.92.0 (Windows) From: "Doris Smith" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Re: Sound is back! Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:21:07 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-ELNK-Trace: 0f572b91323e03d8e9ef466adc09f07e7e972de0d01da9407e967864b9db371a25fbd2c4e99a7e13350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The thing that doesn't make sense to me is that cable television *is* available out here, and we have had satellite TV for several years (cable before that), but the Internet service just isn't getting out here for some reason. Doris Smith dormarbil@earthlink.net Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. > [Original Message] > From: Terry Wild > To: > Date: 11/3/2003 8:12:22 PM > Subject: Re: Sound is back! > > --On Monday, November 03, 2003 7:16 PM -0600 Doris Smith > wrote: > > > Out here in > > the boondocks we can't get cable Internet hookup, nor can we get DSL. It > > is only recently that two more satellites were launched, so now there are > > three. When there was only one, we couldn't get hooked up because we live > > in a forest and had no clear, unobstructed view to the south. > > > We had the same problem last week when DirecTV came to hook up local > channels. He spied through his little glass and said can't do it here. > You need to take out *all* those trees!. Seems the 2 satellites are just > far enough apart, and the locals come in very low. > > So after further consultation, we're getting a local company to do a site > survey and we'll see what that means. Cutting a few trees is OK, having to > clear the forest is a different story. > > Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 20:38:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA42cb6q007335 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:38:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9AE451E60075; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:34:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C7EE1E60074 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:34:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2FCC8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:27:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14322736 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:27:24 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA42RNh30701 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:27:23 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA42Qt0O017495 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:26:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FA70E36.2000103@swbell.net> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 20:25:58 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hurrah! References: <1560018812.1067878031@TWild.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU You totally rock, sistah-friend. Congrats! -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 20:39:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA42dd6q007347 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:39:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6D1DD1E60075; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:35:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EBA31E60074 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:35:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2FCD8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:28:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14322779 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:28:26 -0500 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA42SPh30777 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:28:25 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 03 Nov 2003 18:28:25 PST Message-ID: <20031104022825.99473.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:28:25 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: You've Been Sent A Postcard! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031103150458.0324a7e8@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Peter Kaminski wrote: > >Or is it Johanne? > > Yep, but I'm not a prescriptivist. :) > > If she were here it would matter more. > > The mnemonic is that her parents are > French-Canadian, and wanted her name > to be "zho ann" instead of "zhone," so they had to > stick the "h" in. > > Pete Oddly enough, I'm rather like Ms. Kay as to getting names correct. It bugs the stew out of me to have the "e" left off my name, as traditionally, that makes it a male name. Anyway, I like the uniquity of Johanne. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 20:44:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA42iK6q007388 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:44:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6B51D1E6006A; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:40:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A2CE1E60079 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:40:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2FCD5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:33:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14323016 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:33:07 -0500 Received: from web20501.mail.yahoo.com (web20501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.136]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA42X6h31294 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:33:06 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 03 Nov 2003 18:33:06 PST Message-ID: <20031104023306.86311.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:33:06 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Q of Hours To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- nam gal sips clark wrote: > On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > > Compliance is not mandatory, but all meebers are > > encouraged to participate. > > There's some weird wording in IRS regs along > the lines of "compliance is not mandatory, > but payment is". > > Thanks for the reminder. I think I missed > my 15-Sep estimated payment. > > I know it's too late for your poll, but > here (at UNO) it's 8:30 to 4:30. I find all wording in IRS regs weird. I'd rather leave the poll open than suffer the indignity of a call for recount. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 20:45:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA42jx6q007455 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:45:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9F3351E60075; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:41:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70B051E60074 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:41:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2FCD8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:34:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14323050 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:34:46 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f108.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.108]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA42Ykh31416 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:34:46 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:34:40 -0800 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 02:34:39 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Cc: beisbol@ALUMNI.PITT.EDU Subject: Re: inside skinny? Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 21:34:39 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Nov 2003 02:34:40.0313 (UTC) FILETIME=[327BE290:01C3A27C] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fletcher is pretty much a shoo-in here in Kentucky, I fear. >Marty and Brad (and Amy?) -- will Ben Chandler defeat Fletcher? > > >Off-list replies accepted and appreciated. > >neal _________________________________________________________________ Send a QuickGreet with MSN Messenger http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/cdp_games From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 20:47:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA42lf6q007474 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:47:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0BCD01E60074; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:43:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF1E01E60075 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:43:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2FCE9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:36:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14323101 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:36:28 -0500 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA42aSh31645 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:36:28 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1c2.111f2373 (4320) for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:36:16 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1c2.111f2373.2cd86aa0@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:36:16 EST Subject: Re: Hurrah! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/3/2003 6:33:28 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >Terry Wild wrote: >> >> It's official, my MBA diploma showed up Friday. It was a good experience. > Congratulations. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 20:47:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA42lm6q007478 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:47:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9111A1E60079; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:43:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61ABF1E60074 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:43:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2FCF6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:36:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14323105 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:36:35 -0500 Received: from web20501.mail.yahoo.com (web20501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.136]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA42aYh31658 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:36:35 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 03 Nov 2003 18:36:33 PST Message-ID: <20031104023633.86777.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:36:33 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: troops and suicides: no worry, Rumsfeld is on the case To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- nam gal sips clark wrote: > Man, to me they really nailed the casting, and > the way they handled all those stories from the > different eras without addressing it directly > was pretty cool. It was Timothy Hutton as Archie and Maury Chaykin as Nero; and they used a repertoire company of actors/actresses each week, rather than cast new players. Some of the episodes were right on, and the acting was very good. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 20:48:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA42mD6q007482 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:48:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EAF2C1E60079; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:44:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA5F51E60074 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:44:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2FCDF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:37:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14323136 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:37:00 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA42b0h31712 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:37:00 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA42aW0O025367 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:36:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FA71077.2090809@swbell.net> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 20:35:35 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Word Q References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031103055949.03261ff8@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I've seen condos for horse owners. The barn is nearby, along with other facilities (riding arenas, trails, etc.). Condo fees pay for the horse's board. I want to buy a horse. I wonder what the board is at Kelly's. Peter Kaminski wrote: > Karen Kay writes, > >> What is an equestrian neighborhood? > > > Zoned for residential plus horses. > > Prose examples: > > "He indicated that the area is zoned RA-20 with a horse overlay zoning > having lots of approximately 25,000 square feet." > > "This is the Marloma Neighborhood. It is comprised of 64 lots within Marina > Drive, Marloma Drive and Rollando Drive. Note that the lower outer > perimeter of the neighborhood is in the Horse ("H") Overlay Zone." > > "Residential livestock combining zones are intended to be combined with > single-family residential zones to permit greater flexibility in certain > requirements pertaining to the keeping of farm animals such as horses, > ponies, mules, cows, goats and sheep, and pigs and swine under Future > Farmers of America-supervised and 4-H-supervised projects, in those areas > of the City where the keeping of such animals is already prevalent. It is > also the intent of the RL zones to provide opportunities for those whose > lifestyle includes the keeping of such animals to locate in such > neighborhoods in order to separate such activities from areas occupied by > those who do not share such a lifestyle. (Ord. 4232 § 1 (part), 1975)" > > Pete > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 20:50:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA42o26q007487 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:50:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DEC441E60079; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:45:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACBB61E60075 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:45:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2FD04@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:38:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14323244 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:38:49 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA42cnh31918 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:38:49 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA42cn8b023180 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:38:49 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA42cnfC020236 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:38:49 -0500 Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 21:40:44 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hurrah! Message-ID: <1577631843.1067895644@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <3FA70E36.2000103@swbell.net> References: <1560018812.1067878031@TWild.uri.edu> <3FA70E36.2000103@swbell.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > You totally rock, sistah-friend. Congrats! > And you are not far behind! We await YOUR announcement. Terry > -- > Rita Rouvalis Chapman > rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org > http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 20:50:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA42oY6q007490 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:50:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A48F81E60074; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:46:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01C4C1E6007C for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:46:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A2FCF9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:39:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14323263 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:39:16 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f30.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA42dGh31988 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:39:16 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:39:10 -0800 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 02:39:10 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Hurrah! Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 21:39:10 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Nov 2003 02:39:10.0789 (UTC) FILETIME=[D3B33F50:01C3A27C] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >It's official, my MBA diploma showed up Friday. Excellent! Don't use it all in one place; _________________________________________________________________ Great deals on high-speed Internet access as low as $26.95. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 20:52:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA42qC6q007498 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:52:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B87271E60079; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:48:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A96A1E60075 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:48:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2FCF7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:40:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14323340 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:40:57 -0500 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA42euh32100 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:40:57 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.15.1b9fe428 (4222) for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:40:44 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <15.1b9fe428.2cd86bac@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:40:44 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Sound is back! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/3/2003 8:21:19 PM Central Standard Time, dormarbil@EARTHLINK.NET writes: << The thing that doesn't make sense to me is that cable television *is* available out here, and we have had satellite TV for several years (cable before that), but the Internet service just isn't getting out here for some reason. >> Sometimes businesses are wary about branching into what they consider to be a new market. Cable TV in Tulsa was 40-channel analog long after Akron had digital; the difference was in the companies: Time Warner had long been an innovator; as Warner Amex, it had started Nickelodeon, MTV, and Nick-at-Nite. Can anyone tell me what channels TCI has started? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Trying to make sense of the latest Big O From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 20:53:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA42re6q007507 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:53:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B86121E60074; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:49:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83C0E1E60079 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:49:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2FD17@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:42:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14323441 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:42:27 -0500 Received: from web20501.mail.yahoo.com (web20501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.136]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA42gRh32359 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:42:27 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 03 Nov 2003 18:42:26 PST Message-ID: <20031104024226.87674.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:42:26 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: one more... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- nam gal sips clark wrote: > On Mon, 3 Nov 2003, Neal Traven wrote: > > Richard -- will Blanco defeat Jindal in the runoff > (when is it?) > It beats having to pick between Edwin Edwards > and David Duke, though. > > -- > is it too late to draft Earl Long? When I spoke to him this morning, he stated that it was his birthright to serve the people of Louisiana, and he would not shrink from the sacrifice necessary. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 20:54:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA42sd6q007520 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:54:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2ADE21E60075; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:50:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1AAB1E60074 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:50:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001CEC14@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:43:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14323485 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:43:26 -0500 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA42hQh32443 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:43:26 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.63.246f1cfa (4320) for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:43:19 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <63.246f1cfa.2cd86c47@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:43:19 EST Subject: Re: weather report (by Bethany or a relative of hers?) To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/3/2003 7:06:36 PM, cwv@GWI.NET writes: >...A preview of winter is on the way... > I woke up to a white wonderland this morning, but it didn't last long. In Boise however, where my dau works, it had started to snow again when she left for home. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 20:55:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA42tl6q007531 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:55:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9FEEF1E60075; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:51:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7231A1E60074 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:51:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2FD1D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:44:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14323527 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:44:34 -0500 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA42iYh32531 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:44:34 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 03 Nov 2003 18:44:33 PST Message-ID: <20031104024433.92738.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:44:33 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Sound is back! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FA6F1A5.E3DBCCF@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > I'm glad your sound returned! Don't leave us now. > Hang around. And > speaking of Dorises, where is DorisM? Is she out of > town? She was in San Antonio, then was trying to pull the Cornhuskers through, but events proved disappointing. She may not return. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 21:00:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA430L6q007581 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:00:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DAEF21E60075; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:56:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABC981E60074 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:56:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001CEC2C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:49:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14323795 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:49:07 -0500 Received: from web20512.mail.yahoo.com (web20512.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA42n7h00700 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:49:07 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20512.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 03 Nov 2003 18:49:06 PST Message-ID: <20031104024906.91975.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:49:06 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Q of Hours Results To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- nam gal sips clark wrote: > On Mon, 3 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >Hmm. I think the old meaning of begging the > >question can probably be declared dead now. > > No. > > No. Stand up for what is right. > > There is a perfectly good expression, > namely "raises the question", that > serves the purpose. I'm very glad you have clarified this, as I was uncertain of the proper usage anyway. I SHALL remember it (I think). __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 21:01:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA431k6q007592 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:01:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 827991E6007C; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:57:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 536981E60079 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:57:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2FD1F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:50:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14323872 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:50:33 -0500 Received: from web20516.mail.yahoo.com (web20516.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.232.185]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA42oWh00855 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:50:33 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20516.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 03 Nov 2003 18:50:32 PST Message-ID: <20031104025032.18587.qmail@web20516.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:50:32 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Sound is back! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Adam Hartfield wrote: > > > ("Never give up. Never, ever, give up. -W. > > > Churchill (I think) > > > > Quite so. And he never did. > > It helped that he was bombed on brandy and cigars > for a lot of the tense > days. > > --Adam Yes, and that was a great comfort to U.S. Grant, as well. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 21:04:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA434k6q007620 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:04:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DA4ED1E60079; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:00:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC96A1E60076 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:00:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A2FD28@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:53:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14323978 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:53:33 -0500 Received: from web20511.mail.yahoo.com (web20511.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.150]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA42rXh01154 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:53:33 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20511.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 03 Nov 2003 18:53:32 PST Message-ID: <20031104025332.1792.qmail@web20511.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:53:32 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Hurrah! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1570909343.1067888922@TWild.uri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > But that's just the problem I was discussing with a > cow orker. There isn't > a title, at least not here. Very well done. Now create a title that only you are permitted to use, and dare anyone to borrow it. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 21:14:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA43E26q007676 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:14:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A9A261E6007D; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:09:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76C8C1E60076 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:09:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001CEC73@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:02:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14324508 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:02:39 -0500 Received: from web20512.mail.yahoo.com (web20512.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA432dh02405 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:02:39 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20512.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 03 Nov 2003 19:02:38 PST Message-ID: <20031104030238.94004.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:02:38 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Word Q [att: Bethany] To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FA70502.249D0B56@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > > Thanks - I have been assuming 100 degrees! So what > do I wear in the > > courtroom? No cut-offs, no peasant blouses. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 21:14:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA43E26q007675 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:14:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6EAFD1E60079; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:09:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A3431E60076 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:09:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001CEC6B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:02:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14324519 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:02:48 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA432hh02417 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:02:43 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA432h8b023691 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:02:43 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA432hfC023530 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:02:43 -0500 Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 22:04:39 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hurrah! Message-ID: <1579066312.1067897079@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <20031104025332.1792.qmail@web20511.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031104025332.1792.qmail@web20511.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --On Monday, November 03, 2003 6:53 PM -0800 Lynne Weber wrote: > > Very well done. Now create a title that only you are > permitted to use, and dare anyone to borrow it. > Yes. William just finished Andrew Clements' "Frindle". Rather than dare anyone to borrow it, I could encourage world-wide use. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 21:14:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA43E26q007678 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:14:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ABC351E60076; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:09:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AC951E6007C for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:09:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001CEC50@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:02:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14323940 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:02:48 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA42qeh01030 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:52:40 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA42q3KE023605 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:52:03 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:52:39 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Q of Hours Results In-Reply-To: <20031104024906.91975.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031104024906.91975.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://skepdic.com/begging.html is a good begging Q site. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 21:19:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA43JK6q007722 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:19:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7D7D01E6007D; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:15:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EFA11E6007C for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:15:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2FD91@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:08:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14324744 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:08:07 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4386h03201 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:08:07 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-167.gwi.net [216.195.157.167]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA4383Gp012711; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:08:05 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031103220655.00b5fe70@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 22:08:05 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Sound is back! In-Reply-To: <20031104025032.18587.qmail@web20516.mail.yahoo.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:50 PM 11/3/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >Yes, and that was a great comfort to U.S. Grant, as >well. And as Mr. Lincoln was reputed to have said: "Perhaps we need to supply that to my other generals." cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 21:19:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA43Jc6q007725 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:19:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 56A2E1E6007C; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:15:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25B3B1E60075 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:15:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2FD92@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:08:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14324756 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:08:25 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA438Oh03240 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:08:24 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA438O8b023811 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:08:24 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA438OfC024246 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:08:24 -0500 Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 22:10:20 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hurrah! Message-ID: <1579407375.1067897420@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <3FA7018C.F269891A@maynor.net> References: <1571290125.1067889303@TWild.uri.edu> <3FA7018C.F269891A@maynor.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Terry Wild wrote: > >> Ok, Ok... I have no immediate plans, as it has taken me 5 years and I >> need a breather. > > But surely you have nothing else to do with your time! You must just > sit around twiddling your thumbs for hours with nothing more to tend to > than three young children, a job, and Alan! > A lot of credit goes to Alan who for many of the 5 years held the fort while I whisked off to Providence for the evening, not to mention those tiresome group meetings cropping up at odd times. Thanks, Al, your turn now! As for me, I think I'll just settle on some ski lessons this winter. Terry > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 21:23:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA43Ni6q007771 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:23:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 521CB1E60079; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:19:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 244331E60075 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:19:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2FDA4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:12:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14324961 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:12:31 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA43CUh03752 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:12:30 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003110403122201500qt6lue>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 03:12:24 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031103190505.0359dff0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 19:12:06 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: You've Been Sent A Postcard! In-Reply-To: <20031104022825.99473.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031103150458.0324a7e8@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber writes, >It bugs the stew out of me to have the "e" left off my name, as >traditionally, that makes it a male name. Don't tell Wordslers how to bug you. ;) >Anyway, I like the uniquity of Johanne. gets "about 16,000" hits. :) Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 21:32:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA43Wl6q007851 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:32:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0D6801E6007D; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:28:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE7C21E60075 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:28:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001CEC9D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:21:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14325279 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:21:33 -0500 Received: from web20512.mail.yahoo.com (web20512.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA43LXh04431 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:21:33 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20512.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 03 Nov 2003 19:21:32 PST Message-ID: <20031104032132.98144.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:21:32 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: You've Been Sent A Postcard! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031103190505.0359dff0@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Peter Kaminski wrote: > Lynne Weber writes, > > >It bugs the stew out of me to have the "e" left off > my name, as > >traditionally, that makes it a male name. > > Don't tell Wordslers how to bug you. ;) > > >Anyway, I like the uniquity of Johanne. > > gets > "about 16,000" hits. > > :) > Well, I never heard of 15,999 of them. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 21:46:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA43kH6q007963 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:46:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 954131E60081; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:42:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 651CA1E6007D for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:42:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A2FDE2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:35:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14325643 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:35:04 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA43Z4h05824 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:35:04 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-167.gwi.net [216.195.157.167]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA42MYAr037788 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:22:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031103211603.00b8d8d0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 21:22:57 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Survivor Q In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7766D@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Sorry for the volume - today's methadone day - I think I'm going to look forward to Monday's and your long rambling posts. How odd it must be for moods to vary so wildly. I hope you've learned to go with the flow and enjoy it. >I'm surprised this doesn't occur more often - and I'm not talking about >the "win the contest >and get to visit the camp and take something home" (which I find to be >lame). I'm talking about making a midnight raid to steal any food/equipment >provided in advance. I would guess there are rules about that sort of thing. I can only imagine the multi-part, many-volume disclaimers and agreements that the contestants have to sign. I'll bet one of the rules is "no physical violence." I think once on The Amazing Race one of the contestants actually said that to the camera: "I had to think back on what was in the agreement I had signed because I was so tempted to punch him out." > did you know there are body doubles? That's so when someone is talking > 1::camera, it can be done >far enough away from the camp they can speak frankly such that what they say >won't be heard until the contest is over and everyone is home. I don't understand this. Why would they need a body double? I've assumed all along that the camera operator (and interviewer?) took contestants aside for those interviews. Why would a body double have to be involved? > Have you heard about gambling on Survivor's outcome? >phil Yes. I read that this time they canceled betting because it appears that the outcome is known by some. In fact, I actually read who the person is who supposedly wins. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 22:17:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA44HF6q008282 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:17:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ECF601E60083; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:13:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9EC41E60081 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:13:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001CEF20@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 23:06:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14330739 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 23:05:58 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA445wh10817 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 23:05:58 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA445ueO014487 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:05:57 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA445ta2014446 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:05:55 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031103200703.00aa8590@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 20:07:47 -0800 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Hey, Big 'Al Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Happy Birthday, dude! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 22:34:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA44Y36q008414 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:34:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 941291E60083; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:29:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A07B1E60081 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:29:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A30132@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 23:22:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14332965 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 23:22:47 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:mRKNePyAeMmMEuv/81QSZ5qsAZGqLwAI@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA44Mkh13610 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 23:22:46 -0500 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C13FB30582 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:22:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CF942382D for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:22:45 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031103211603.00b8d8d0@pop.gwi.net> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7766D@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-New-MIllennium: Been there, blogged that X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Neal-Stephenson: Paper is a really advanced technology Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:21:33 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Survivor Q Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Have you heard about gambling on Survivor's outcome? > >phil > >Yes. I read that this time they canceled betting because it appears that >the outcome is known by some. In fact, I actually read who the person is >who supposedly wins. > >bonnie If anyone told me that they knew the person who wins, I would laugh in their face. However, if anyone told me that they knew the final two, I would say, "so what?". There reason for this goes back to Ben Franklin's "three may keep a secret if two are dead." It's conceivable that no one but Mark Burnett knows the outcome of the final vote; in fact, it's conceivable that MB put the box with the final votes into a safe after the voting, and that even he doesn't know. However, every single person on the Survivor crew, not to mention at least 9 of the survivors themselves, knows who the final two are, and that's a lot of mouths to keep shut. This is the second season that CBS insider gambling has come to the attention of the public, but apparently CBS insiders have been doing final-two betting (successfully) since the Marquesas series, at least. Why any non-insider would make bets on an event that was concluded several months ago is beyond me. Ken Miller Machiavelli School of Diplomacy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 3 23:09:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA459P6q008683 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 23:09:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 858D91E60083; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 23:05:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 519441E60082 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 23:05:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001CF0F3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 23:58:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14334564 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 23:58:10 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA44wAh16642 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 23:58:10 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA44w82f007061 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:58:08 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA44w7JC007022 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:58:07 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031103205823.00a2ac40@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 20:59:59 -0800 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Dickens Fair Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Pete, or anyone, have you gone to the Fair at the Cow Palace? I've never gone and I think I would like to. http://www.dickensfaire.com/index.html Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 04:00:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4A0F6q011112 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 04:00:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 80E901E6009F; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 03:56:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F4AD1E6009B for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 03:56:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A30651@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 4:48:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14344802 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 04:48:58 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA49mwh08588 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 04:48:58 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:50:44 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id VR1B3N5C; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:50:42 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031104104750.0275f300@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 10:48:51 +0100 Subject: Re: Q of Hours Results In-Reply-To: <3FA6EB8D.9DC9E2B@maynor.net> References: <3FA476E9.930444CC@maynor.net> <20031102032659.60332.qmail@web20516.mail.yahoo.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20031103135723.02723128@localhost> <3FA6EB8D.9DC9E2B@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 17:58 03.11.2003 -0600 skrev Natalie Maynor: >Espen Ore wrote: > >> And now for a digression: there was supposed to be a message sent out to everyone at the Univ. of Oslo: "You are not allowed to sleep in your office outside the working hours." > >I used to hear an alarm clock going off from time to time in an office >next door to mine, suggesting to me that my colleague was sleeping >(inside working hours), but then I discovered that it was his reminder >of things like going to class. Re outside working hours, I've known >several cases of people who have lived in their offices for periods of >time -- usually involving things like divorces. One historian I knew >lived in his office with a basset hound for several months. I believe it has been cases like that behind the message in Oslo - if indeed it was ever sent out. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 04:08:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4A856q011192 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 04:08:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0FFFD1E6009F; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 04:03:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D551D1E60095 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 04:03:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A30675@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 4:56:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14344886 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 04:56:49 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA49umh08962 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 04:56:49 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:58:35 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id VR1B3N60; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:58:28 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031104105604.02737c28@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 10:56:37 +0100 Subject: Re: Sound is back! In-Reply-To: <3FA6F1F6.62832959@maynor.net> References: <20031103192548.92265.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> <3FA6F1F6.62832959@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 18:25 03.11.2003 -0600 skrev Natalie Maynor: >Lynne Weber wrote: > >> > ("Never give up. Never, ever, give up. -W. >> > Churchill (I think) >> >> Quite so. And he never did. > >I wrote a research paper in high school on WC's speeches and loved it. And this made me think about Gallipoli in WW I. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 05:04:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4B466q011582 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 05:04:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 815711E600A4; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 04:59:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FE851E6009B for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 04:59:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A306E9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 5:52:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14346046 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 05:52:50 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4Aqnh13871 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 05:52:49 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.137.48]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031104105244.NYUY1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 05:52:44 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA784FC.57830649@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 04:52:44 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor Q References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031103211603.00b8d8d0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Yes. I read that this time they canceled betting because it appears that > the outcome is known by some. In fact, I actually read who the person is > who supposedly wins. I've found it amazing that this hasn't happened before -- that there haven't been leaks. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 05:06:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4B6R6q011640 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 05:06:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B18531E600A0; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 05:02:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83B401E6009B for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 05:02:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A306FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 5:55:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14346097 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 05:55:11 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4AtAh14055 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 05:55:10 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.137.48]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031104105505.NZAA1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 05:55:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA78589.D19F221A@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 04:55:05 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hey, Big 'Al References: <4.2.2.20031103200703.00aa8590@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Yes! HB, A! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 05:09:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4B9B6q011674 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 05:09:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D99FF1E600A7; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 05:04:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA601E6009B for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 05:04:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A306EF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 5:57:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14346119 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 05:57:55 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4Avth14172 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 05:57:55 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.137.48]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031104105749.NZJL1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 05:57:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA7862D.6CEA0FF2@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 04:57:49 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor Q References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7766D@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bookrat wrote: > "three may keep a secret if two are dead." It's conceivable that no one > but Mark Burnett knows the outcome of the final vote; in fact, it's > conceivable that MB put the box with the final votes into a safe after the > voting, and that even he doesn't know. However, every single person on the Do they always wait until it can be to count the votes? I know they have done that at times, but I thought that wasn't always the case. It does make sense, of course. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 06:02:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4C256q012148 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 06:02:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 85E0C1E600A7; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 05:57:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 583B31E600A6 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 05:57:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A307AA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 6:50:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14347765 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 06:50:48 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4Bomh18963 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 06:50:48 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hA4BokkF024455 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:50:46 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hA4BojYh024453 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:50:45 +0100 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:50:45 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sound is back! Message-ID: <20031104115045.GA24402@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <410-2200311242217605@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <410-2200311242217605@earthlink.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Smith: = The thing that doesn't make sense to me is that cable television *is* = available out here, and we have had satellite TV for several years (cable = before that), but the Internet service just isn't getting out here for some = reason. = DSL: distance to central office. if you're too far out there's too much noise for a good data connection. Cable: needs to be ready for two way traffic. one cable downstream for tv is not a big deal. setting up the loop and the connections off it for two way traffic means digging. if there aren't enough customers to sell too, they won't dig. steph From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 06:23:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4CNJ6q012364 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 06:23:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 02BF91E600A9; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 06:19:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3AE51E600A8 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 06:19:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A307DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 7:11:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14348376 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:11:57 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4CBvh07592 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:11:57 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-52.gwi.net [216.195.150.52]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA4CBtAr089133 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:11:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104071020.00b28618@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 07:12:20 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Survivor Q In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031103211603.00b8d8d0@pop.gwi.net> <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7766D@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >If anyone told me that they knew the person who wins, I would laugh in >their face. However, if anyone told me that they knew the final two, I >would say, "so what?". --Ken Miller I agree. What I read, however, named a winner based on the location of the votes cast. Maybe there's a win, place, and show category. I also read that the final show in mid-December is going to be broadcast live from the Survivor location. I guess that means they fly everybody back there. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 06:24:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4CO96q012369 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 06:24:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C85481E600A9; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 06:19:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 984A31E600A2 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 06:19:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A307E2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 7:12:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14348466 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:12:52 -0500 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4CCph07909 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:12:51 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.9.1b8b1463 (4214) for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:12:37 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <9.1b8b1463.2cd8f1b5@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:12:37 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Hey, Big 'Al To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Happy Birthday, Al! Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Trying to make sense of the latest Big O From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 06:48:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4Cmk6q012570 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 06:48:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6C4F81E600A2; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 06:44:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C4FF1E60099 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 06:44:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A30847@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 7:37:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14349440 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:37:28 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.domain.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4CbSh11274 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:37:28 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.domain.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hA4Cb9wn012108 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 06:37:24 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 06:37:31 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <188141352.20031104063731@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Survivor Q In-Reply-To: <3FA784FC.57830649@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031103211603.00b8d8d0@pop.gwi.net> <3FA784FC.57830649@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, November 04, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > bonniev wrote: >> Yes. I read that this time they canceled betting because it appears that >> the outcome is known by some. In fact, I actually read who the person is >> who supposedly wins. > I've found it amazing that this hasn't happened before -- that there > haven't been leaks. I don't think very many people have a spare $5 million lying around. Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 06:51:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4Cp66q012634 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 06:51:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 45C991E600A8; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 06:46:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 109E81E600A2 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 06:46:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3085A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 7:39:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14349559 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:39:49 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.domain.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4Cdah11571 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:39:36 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.domain.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hA4CdTwn012753 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 06:39:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 06:39:59 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1931392637.20031104063959@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Word Q In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031103055949.03261ff8@mail.istori.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031103055949.03261ff8@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, November 03, 2003, Peter Kaminski wrote: > Karen Kay writes, >>What is an equestrian neighborhood? > Zoned for residential plus horses. Thanks. > "Residential livestock combining zones are intended to be combined with > single-family residential zones to permit greater flexibility in certain > requirements pertaining to the keeping of farm animals such as horses, > ponies, mules, cows, goats and sheep, and pigs and swine under Future > Farmers of America-supervised and 4-H-supervised projects, in those areas > of the City where the keeping of such animals is already prevalent. I love this term 'residential livestock'. I shall sing the theme to "Rawhide" the next time I try to herd Burl. Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 06:56:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4CuI6q012706 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 06:56:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7E6661E600AD; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 06:52:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 504E01E600AB for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 06:52:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3085B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 7:45:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14349360 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:45:00 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4CWqh10987 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:32:52 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA4CWDKE011872 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:32:15 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:32:49 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Word Q [att: Bethany] In-Reply-To: <20031104030238.94004.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031104030238.94004.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 3 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >No cut-offs, no peasant blouses. I remember those! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 06:56:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4CuI6q012709 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 06:56:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CD2A01E600AD; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 06:52:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FB251E600AB for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 06:52:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001CF680@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 7:45:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14349396 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:45:00 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4CYJh11079 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:34:19 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA4CXgKE012126 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:33:42 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:34:19 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hey, Big 'Al In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031103200703.00aa8590@uclink.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: References: <4.2.2.20031103200703.00aa8590@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 3 Nov 2003, Betty wrote: >Happy Birthday, dude! And also from me. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 06:59:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4CxB6q012732 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 06:59:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ED60B1E600A8; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 06:54:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF3D31E60099 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 06:54:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001CF6A4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 7:47:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14349774 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:47:17 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.domain.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4ClHh12255 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:47:17 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.domain.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hA4Cl9wn015122 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 06:47:13 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 06:47:40 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1875713765.20031104064740@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Survivor Q In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7766D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7766D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, November 03, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: >>From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] >>Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 12:49 PM >>I managed to turn on my VCR late, so all I saw was the two tribal >>councils. Why did you say that Jeff was mad, Bonnie? At Osten? Or >>something else? > Jeff was mad because after all of the effort, screening, sport, and > downright luck so many people invest in getting the "right people" onto the > show, someone decides to walk away, why did he even try out to begin with? I understood the point; I disagree that he was "mad". He had to forcefully make the point about Osten quitting to discourage others who might consider it. > I thought things like starting with men vs. women were interesting, but not > as captivating. The most interesting part of that was the woman who was so weak and helpless and wanted to go home--till men moved in. > Remember what Rupert[1] did when the game started[2]? He was sitting with > the raft when the others were shopping and took an opportunity to dig > through the other team's stuff and took what he wanted? I'm surprised this > doesn't occur more often - and I'm not talking about the "win the contest > and get to visit the camp and take something home" (which I find to be > lame). I'm talking about making a midnight raid to steal any food/equipment > provided in advance. Can you imagine taking all of their cookware, fishing > poles, etc.? I'm sure there would be some payback at some point, but I think > it would definitely add some flavor to the game. They don't know where the other camp is, and they are physically separated. In this case, they are on different islands. Pretty risky with no light. Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 06:59:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4Cxo6q012742 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 06:59:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C6BAD1E600A2; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 06:55:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 973361E60099 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 06:55:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A30874@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 7:48:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14349835 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:48:33 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4CmWh12391 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:48:33 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA4CmVYB018975 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 06:48:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 06:49:00 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1092982104.20031104064900@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hey, Big 'Al In-Reply-To: <9.1b8b1463.2cd8f1b5@aol.com> References: <9.1b8b1463.2cd8f1b5@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, November 04, 2003, Evelyn Duncan wrote: > Happy Birthday, Al! Ditto. Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 07:07:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4D7e6q012800 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:07:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3BDCB1E600AB; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:03:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E1811E600A8 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:03:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A30894@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 7:56:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14349757 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:56:23 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4CkNh12166 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:46:23 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA4CjkKE014442 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:45:46 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:46:23 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Word Q In-Reply-To: <1931392637.20031104063959@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031103055949.03261ff8@mail.istori.com> <1931392637.20031104063959@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> Zoned for residential plus horses. I could request re-zoning for HH. (There used to be a horse farm very near here.) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 08:01:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4E1V6q013229 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 08:01:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B0CF51E600B4; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:57:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C2DA1E600AF for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:57:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3097D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 8:50:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14352609 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 08:50:13 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4DoDh19819 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 08:50:13 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-96.gwi.net [216.195.150.96]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA4DoBAt005333 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 08:50:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104084837.00b3e998@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 08:50:11 -0500 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Y'know it's got to be slow... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ...at the NWS when you see this sort of thing: 330 am EST Tue Nov 04 2003 The temperature at the Portland jetport only varied by three degrees on Monday. The is the smallest daily temperature range recorded on a November 3rd in Portland. The previous record was a four degree spread in 1955. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 08:23:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4ENR6q013403 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 08:23:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 652941E600AD; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 08:19:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 327ED1E60099 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 08:19:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A30A1F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 9:12:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14354234 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:12:09 -0500 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA4EC9h23819 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:12:09 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 06:12:08 PST Message-ID: <20031104141208.47609.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 06:12:08 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Word Q To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >> Zoned for residential plus horses. > > I could request re-zoning for HH. (There used to be > a horse farm very near > here.) > > Bethany Horses H'only __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 08:56:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4EuJ6q013664 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 08:56:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 809E11E600B1; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 08:52:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E9331E600B0 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 08:52:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A30BAB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 9:45:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14357774 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:45:01 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4Ej1h31537 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:45:01 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:44:55 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7767C@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Hurrah! Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:44:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Terry Wild [mailto:twild@URI.EDU] >Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 7:50 PM >Thanks to everyone for your well wishes! > >> Congratulations, Terry! >> >> Now, what do you plan to do with it? >> > >Hang it on the wall. :-) I had a nasty thought...(as a prank gift for MBAs or any other degree gift): toilet paper representing the degree across every two sheets or so. You'd have to ensure the recipient would take it in the proper vein of humor. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 09:07:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4F766q013785 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:07:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 609491E600B3; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:02:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F01A1E600B2 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:02:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A30C83@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 9:55:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14357999 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:55:48 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4Ejmh31931 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:45:48 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA4EjBKE016512 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:45:11 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:45:47 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Word Q In-Reply-To: <20031104141208.47609.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031104141208.47609.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >Horses H'only Yo! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 09:07:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4F7Z6q013789 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:07:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E5F3C1E600B4; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:03:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1EA21E600B2 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:03:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A30C7B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 9:56:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14358050 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:56:17 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4EkHh32027 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:46:17 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA4EjeKE016713 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:45:40 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:46:16 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: I'm gone Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I am going south now .... Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 09:19:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4FJX6q013855 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:19:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 601721E600B3; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:15:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1B6D1E600B1 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:15:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A30CCE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:08:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14360822 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:08:07 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4F7Zh05622 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:07:35 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:07:29 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7767D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: troops and suicides: no worry, Rumsfeld is on the case Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:07:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Lynne Weber [mailto:lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] >Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 9:37 PM >--- nam gal sips clark >wrote: >> Man, to me they really nailed the casting, and >> the way they handled all those stories from the >> different eras without addressing it directly >> was pretty cool. > >It was Timothy Hutton as Archie and Maury Chaykin as >Nero; and they used a repertoire company of >actors/actresses each week, rather than cast new >players. Some of the episodes were right on, and the >acting was very good. Particularly the fetching Kari Matchett. Timothy Hutton has a tie-in to another of the famous detectives of the same [written?] era: his father, Jim Hutton, starred as Ellery Queen with David Wayne[1], who was Richard Queen, Ellery's father. IIRC, Timothy is getting close to his father's age when he died; i.e., I think Jim died in his mid-40s. phil [1] For some strange reason, I keep thinking David Wayne was a criminal on Batman (the camp, 60s series). (I know the Green Hornet is an indirect descendent (great nephew?) of the Lone Ranger, there were two Riddlers and three Mr. Freezes on Batman, etc., but I hate it when I can't remember the obscure characters. It'll drive me nuts until I remember his connection to Batman.) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 09:21:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4FLw6q013911 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:21:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C95D71E600B6; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:17:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 989471E600B5 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:17:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A30CF9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:10:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14360990 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:10:40 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4FAdh05993 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:10:39 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:10:34 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7767E@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Survivor Q Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:10:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: bonniev [mailto:bonniev@GWI.NET] >Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 9:23 PM >I don't understand this. Why would they need a body double? >I've assumed >all along that the camera operator (and interviewer?) took contestants >aside for those interviews. Why would a body double have to >be involved? Because they can control the fact there are people roaming around behind them, making it seem as though they're talking just out of earshot of the remainder of their teammates - as if to add add'l excitement: "What if someone walks in on a dialogue 1::camera? > > Have you heard about gambling on Survivor's outcome? > >phil >Yes. I read that this time they canceled betting because it >appears that >the outcome is known by some. In fact, I actually read who >the person is >who supposedly wins. There's someting else on another message - I'll respond to it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 09:24:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4FO96q013927 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:24:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1FB4F1E600B6; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:19:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B385E1E600B5 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:19:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A30D03@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:12:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14361219 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:12:50 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4FCoh06449 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:12:50 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:12:45 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7767F@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Sound is back! Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:12:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: steph [mailto:stevie@MULTINIX.COM] >Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 6:51 AM >Doris Smith: >= The thing that doesn't make sense to me is that cable television *is* >= available out here, and we have had satellite TV for several >years (cable >= before that), but the Internet service just isn't getting >out here for some >= reason. >= > >DSL: distance to central office. if you're too far out there's >too much noise for a good data connection. But they can put extenders to close up the gap. Some of the distances were too far away from major population groups so there were certain things the various utility companies wanted which would not be granted until they closed up the DSL distance until x% had access to DSL as a competitor for cable. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 09:26:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4FQA6q013944 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:26:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EA8581E600B3; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:21:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B79A81E600B1 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:21:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A30D47@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:14:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14361640 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:14:52 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4FEqh06885 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:14:52 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:14:46 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77680@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Survivor Q Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:14:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] >Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 7:48 AM >They don't know where the other camp is, and they are physically >separated. In this case, they are on different islands. Pretty risky >with no light. When Rupert played for the other team, did he spend time at their campsite? (I can't remember) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 09:28:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4FSL6q013952 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:28:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E9EE91E600B5; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:24:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B522D1E600B3 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:24:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001CFB72@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:17:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14361807 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:17:02 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4FGlh07254 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:16:47 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA4FGjWt6021200 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:16:45 -0600 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:16:45 -0600 (CST) From: nam gal sips clark X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: troops and suicides: no worry, Rumsfeld is on the case In-Reply-To: <20031104023633.86777.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031104023633.86777.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 3 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > It was Timothy Hutton as Archie and Maury Chaykin as Hutton, check. Shoulda imdb-ed. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 09:30:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4FU36q013964 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:30:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 958081E600AD; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:25:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 612B91E600B7 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:25:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A30D66@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:18:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14362336 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:18:44 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4FIih08455 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:18:44 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA4FIhWt6324362 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:18:43 -0600 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:18:43 -0600 (CST) From: nam gal sips clark X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: troops and suicides: no worry, Rumsfeld is on the case In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7767D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Message-ID: References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7767D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > [1] For some strange reason, I keep thinking David Wayne > was a criminal on Batman (the camp, 60s series). The Mad Hatter. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0915536/#guest-appearances Check out the items beginning with #32. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 09:32:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4FWg6q013999 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:32:42 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 30CB51E600AD; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:28:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F34AF1E600B3 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:28:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A30D93@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:21:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14362682 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:21:24 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4FLOh09325 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:21:24 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA4FLMWt5980200 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:21:22 -0600 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:21:22 -0600 (CST) From: nam gal sips clark X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Q of Hours Results In-Reply-To: <3FA6FFDC.F8E4AA7D@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <20031103135548.24634.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> <3FA6EE3F.800FC5BE@maynor.net> <3FA6FFDC.F8E4AA7D@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 3 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Language doesn't work that way. I understand that. It doesn't mean I have to like it though, does it? > All living languages change. Yes, some by being bludgeoned by half-literate sportswriters. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 09:37:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4Fbo6q014054 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:37:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 256921E600AD; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:33:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E83DC1E60087 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:33:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001CFBE2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:26:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14363145 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:26:32 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4FQVh10427 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:26:31 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:26:23 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77682@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: troops and suicides: no worry, Rumsfeld is on the case Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:26:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I hate using IMDB when I know it's tucked away in my brain [somewhere]. It's bad enough that in the previous ten-fifteen years I've switched storing all of my reading material from full text to indexing in my brain - then it becomes "I know it was in a newspaper vs. magazine, in date range x to y, and on the left|right side of the page" which is maddening because search mechanisms don't permit that type of criteria - it's no more than various media and date range. (and even then, I'd have to pay to search) >-----Original Message----- >From: nam gal sips clark [mailto:rjscheid@NADAL.LOYNO.EDU] >Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 10:19 AM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: troops and suicides: no worry, Rumsfeld is on the case > > >On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: >> [1] For some strange reason, I keep thinking David Wayne >> was a criminal on Batman (the camp, 60s series). > >The Mad Hatter. > >http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0915536/#guest-appearances > >Check out the items beginning with #32. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 09:52:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4FqG6q014154 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:52:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 267401E600B5; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:48:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E82A51E600B3 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:48:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A30E15@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:40:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14364160 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:40:58 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4Fewh12913 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:40:58 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA4FepWt4292780 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:40:51 -0600 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:40:51 -0600 (CST) From: nam gal sips clark X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: troops and suicides: no worry, Rumsfeld is on the case In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77682@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Message-ID: References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77682@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > I hate using IMDB when I know it's tucked away in my brain [somewhere]. Ah, O.K. Well, your brain didn't fail you on the Lone Ranger and the Green Hornet connection; great nephew it is. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 10:10:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4GAB6q014318 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:10:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7C4CD1E600B5; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:05:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 453E91E600AD for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:05:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A30EC8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:58:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14365794 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:58:51 -0500 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA4Fwph16382 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:58:51 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 07:58:50 PST Message-ID: <20031104155850.53798.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:58:50 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: I'm gone To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > I am going south now .... > > Bethany This time, bring back the goldfish! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 10:11:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4GBe6q014326 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:11:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 340D31E600B5; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:07:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD6191E60087 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:07:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A30EDB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:00:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14365853 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:00:21 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4G0Kh16611 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:00:20 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:00:14 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77683@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: Survivor Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:00:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On the issue of ballots, particularly the final count. One of the issues which gripes me is Jeff's, "I'll go tally the ballots." We all know the ballots are arranged in an order to ??? create some sort suspense? minimize infighting? It would appear when there are two people splitting the vote, they are read in an [semi-?] alternating fashion and it would appear we never see all of the ballots unless they all are 50-50 and the last vote breaks the tie. I'm not certain what their overall strategy is but it would be interesting to know. WRT the final ballot, we're not supposed to know whom it is until the final showing and it's supposed to be live. The problem is that not all of it is live. There was one series where he picked up the ballet jar and hopped onto a helicopter. Then he was lowered from a helicopter and climbed down onto the set in front of the live audience. This was obviously fake. It was also quite risky. Suppose he had actually taken off from the Tribal Council with the real tally pot and the pot slipped out of his hands, the helicopter crashed (although I believe they were landing a very short distance away - just enough to show the chopper taking off), etc. And once again, they had to tally the ballots in advance. Suppose someone turned in a blank ballot or wrote "Fix Fix!" or something else (or worse)? And again, you **know** they had to prearrange the ballots in an order to generate the maximum suspension for everyone involved. Do you really think if it would be 4-3 for one contestant they'd read the first four ballots and say, "A wins!" (leaving everyone to wonder what is|was on the other three? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 10:18:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4GIW6q014359 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:18:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C66481E600B3; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:14:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FEC41E600AD for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:14:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A30F08@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:07:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14366576 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:07:13 -0500 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA4G7Ch18021 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:07:12 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 08:07:11 PST Message-ID: <20031104160711.43979.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 08:07:11 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: troops and suicides: no worry, Rumsfeld is on the case To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7767D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Phil Paxton wrote: > >It was Timothy Hutton as Archie and Maury Chaykin > as > >Nero; and they used a repertoire company of > >actors/actresses each week, rather than cast new > >players. Some of the episodes were right on, and > the > >acting was very good. > > Particularly the fetching Kari Matchett. SHE is smashing. > > Timothy Hutton has a tie-in to another of the famous > detectives of the same > [written?] era: his father, Jim Hutton, starred as > Ellery Queen with David > Wayne[1], who was Richard Queen, Ellery's father. > IIRC, Timothy is getting > close to his father's age when he died; i.e., I > think Jim died in his > mid-40s. Jim was also a good friend of Cary Grant form "Walk, Don't Run" days. > > phil > > [1] For some strange reason, I keep thinking David > Wayne was a criminal on > Batman (the camp, 60s series). (I know the Green > Hornet is an indirect > descendent (great nephew?) of the Lone Ranger, > there were two Riddlers and > three Mr. Freezes on Batman, etc., but I hate it > when I can't remember the > obscure characters. It'll drive me nuts until I > remember his connection to > Batman.) Well, David Wayne played a leprechaun once. And I can almost see him in the Gorshin character. How obscure was Wayne's character? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 10:18:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4GIe6q014364 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:18:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C8E3E1E600AD; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:14:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F4A11E60087 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:14:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A30F09@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:07:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14366580 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:07:14 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4G7Eh18026 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:07:14 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id D2F422B8F6; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 08:07:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C27712B8F4 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 08:07:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 08:07:09 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: stupid work idea Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It's steadily, inexorably getting more Office Spacey at work. The latest idiocy is the United Way Campaign: employees spend money and time preparing offerings of goods and services, which are then auctioned off CHEAP at a silent auction. The auction money gets given to UW, who then of course takes a hefty cut before it gets moved to other agencies who take their cut . . . I figure that the Mickey Mouse pinata the Library prepared cost library staff about $100; it got auctioned off for $50. But the stupid work idea that brings me to write is this: My boss got pressured into being on a Managers' team that is to prepare a meal for eight, plus cleanup, at the buyer's house. The managers have to furnish the groceries as well as perform the labor. One of the lawyers bought this service at auction and the meal is being planned for a Saturday night. He invited as guests OTHER lawyers, each of which is the kind whose name you hate to see on your e-mail or on your phone id tracking when your phone rings. OK, bad enough, but if it were just that bad I wouldn't be writing. The kicker is that my boss's boss, who is in charge of this meal execution and who coerced my boss's participation, insists they have to practice on Friday night before the Saturday night! They have to do the whole damned thing TWICE. United Way will get about $200 from this. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 10:22:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4GMX6q014425 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:22:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BA8991E600B3; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:18:19 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A11B1E600AD for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:18:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A30F76@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:10:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14367318 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:10:57 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4GAth19104 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:10:56 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:10:47 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77684@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: troops and suicides: no worry, Rumsfeld is on the case Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:10:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: nam gal sips clark [mailto:rjscheid@NADAL.LOYNO.EDU] >Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 10:41 AM >On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: >> I hate using IMDB when I know it's tucked away in my brain >[somewhere]. > >Ah, O.K. > >Well, your brain didn't fail you on >the Lone Ranger and the Green Hornet >connection; great nephew it is. My mom & I have hypothesized for years if memories (how far they go back) are relevant to when one learns to read - and thus, start laying down information in the brain. We lived here in Indy until just about the time I was five. I remember watching Green Hornet here and the relationship to the Lone Ranger and I also remember the last episode of Batman (the campy version) before we moved away (The Black Widow - Tallulah Bankhead). My mom taught me to read when I was two. She's creditted that with motivating her to become a teacher. My parents had one car, my dad drove to|from work, and my older sister was just two. My mom's motivation was, "what do you do with a two-year-old who knows all the letters on the blocks and can sound out, then pronounce, then remember and learn words, then combine them to make sentences?" So when she put my sister down for her nap, Mom would get the newspaper and teach me to read [from it]. I don't have memories this far back (nothing before three - and only a little before four. But I have drawn the layout of the house, remember watching the girl next door run into the street and getting a broken leg when a car hit her, etc. (that was at three) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 10:26:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4GQs6q014477 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:26:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9F01E1E600B6; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:22:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25C6E1E60087 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:22:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A30FBA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:15:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14367978 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:15:35 -0500 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA4GFYh20465 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:15:34 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 08:15:30 PST Message-ID: <20031104161530.45496.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 08:15:30 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: stupid work idea To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Ann Borkin wrote: > OK, bad enough, but if it were just that bad I > wouldn't be writing. The > kicker is that my boss's boss, who is in charge of > this meal execution and > who coerced my boss's participation, insists they > have to practice on > Friday night before the Saturday night! They have > to do the whole damned > thing TWICE. > > United Way will get about $200 from this. This ordeal (twice) cannot be worth $200 to anybody involved. Glad you're back. > > Ann __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 11:19:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4HJe6q015105 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:19:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ED1461E600BB; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:15:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73F6B1E600B9 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:15:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A311D9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:08:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14373213 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:08:20 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4H8Jh31097 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:08:20 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-96.gwi.net [216.195.150.96]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA4H8IAr062509 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:08:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104120236.00b9d578@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 12:08:44 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Survivor In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77683@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >One of the issues which gripes me is Jeff's, "I'll go tally the ballots." I don't see this as a problem. He could say: "I'll go read the ballots and arrange them in an order that will keep the suspense going to the last minute." But he doesn't have to say that. We know that's what he's going to do. Why shouldn't he? And they do indeed show all the ballots after the end commercials, when they show the coming attractions and allow the person voted off to have a last say. Nor do I see any problem with half of the last show being filmed on location and the other half being filmed in a studio, made to look like the location. I think that's rather neat. The first episode wasn't like that. They read the vote right on the island. But, every episode afterwards, they gather up the votes and then reassemble the cast months later at some other location. Even if you didn't know that was what they were going to do, you would be able to tell because everybody has gained back the 15 pounds they lost and washed their hair. I sense that you have a problem with suspending disbelief. It's just a TV show, for god's sake. Let them have a little drama and ritual. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 11:21:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4HLF6q015111 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:21:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 137C51E600BD; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:17:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A74B61E600BA for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:17:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A311FC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:09:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14373534 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:09:56 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4H9th31542 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:09:55 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001CFFE3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:09:55 -0500 Message-Id: <200311041709.hA4H9th31542@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:09:55 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Hurrah! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:47:11 -0500, Terry Wild wrote: >It's official, my MBA diploma showed up Friday. It was a good experience. > >Terry Congrats, Terry! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 11:33:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4HXE6q015271 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:33:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8AB791E600BD; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:29:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A7391E600BE for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:29:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3125B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:21:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14374254 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:21:55 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4HLth00649 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:21:55 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D0049@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:21:54 -0500 Message-Id: <200311041721.hA4HLth00649@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:21:55 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: troops and suicides: no worry, Rumsfeld is on the case To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:56:16 -0600, nam gal sips clark wrote: >On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >(do I respond to anyone else?) >> Nothing resembling Archie or Freddie Arbuthnot? > >What was that cable show a while back (A&E?) with >Timothy Bottoms as Archie and I-do-not-know as >Nero Wolfe? IMDB.com Maury Chaykin and Timothy . clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 11:53:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4Hqw6q015928 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:52:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 191A21E600C4; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:48:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D77DA1E600C2 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:48:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A31347@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:41:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14376563 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:41:39 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4Hfdh04914 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:41:39 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D0112@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:41:38 -0500 Message-Id: <200311041741.hA4Hfdh04914@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:41:39 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: You've Been Sent A Postcard! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:12:06 -0800, Peter Kaminski wrote: >Lynne Weber writes, > >>It bugs the stew out of me to have the "e" left off my name, as >>traditionally, that makes it a male name. > >Don't tell Wordslers how to bug you. ;) > You would that, after having repeatedly watched me crash and burn against this, the one rule that never varies, Lynne would know better! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 11:54:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4Hs66q016079 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:54:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D21021E600C5; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:49:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95CDA1E600C4 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:49:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3135D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:42:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14376658 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:42:47 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4Hgkh05136 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:42:46 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:42:41 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77688@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Survivor Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:42:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: bonniev [mailto:bonniev@GWI.NET] >Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:09 PM >I sense that you have a problem with suspending disbelief. >It's just a >TV show, for god's sake. Let them have a little drama and ritual. Trust me, I have no problems with suspending disbelief. [Nearly] All who know me would find disagreement with what you are saying. A sizeable bit of creativity comes from letting things go - and to comment on the overly abused phrase "think outside the box" - I'm wagering 99.8% of the people who use the phrase have *absolutely* no idea what they mean when they are using the phrase (it's something which sounded neat so it perpetuated itself, just as "at the end of the day", "exact same" | "same exat" thing, etc. Back to thnking outside the box. It's called "Lateral Thinking" and it was coined by Edward De Bono. A lot of his work was [considerably] ahead of where it could be applied. Some of the things he wrote about early in his career didn't present itself as useful until the 70s, 80s, and 90s. The underlying thought which impedes people from arriving at an answer is people block themselves by assigning or blocking with assumptions. If you remove the assumptions, the answer will present itself. In its purest form, you can be presented with a problem [or puzzle] and be presented with an opportunity to provide a solution. When they say, "I don't know." The easiest thing to help them by asking, "What are you assuming?" (the usual answer is, "Nothing!" and they become emphatic every time you ask them because they truly believe they aren't assuming anything) One-by-one, removing the assumptions will lead to a conclusion. Here's an example: I was on my way to Indy for a job interview. The car died and I was off the beaten path a bit so it's not a case of someone stopping by and giving me a lift. It was also hot enough I didn't want to walk to get a tow truck to take me to a service station, get the car ready to go, then finish the trip and arrive sweaty. I had a rough idea as to the problem (I'm not mechanically inclined) but not the "proper tools". I did, however, have a spool of dental floss and a tube of toothpaste in my satchel, as I always do. I took the round (I have no idea what the correct name is) filter off, ensured the floss was tied to the tube at the top, wrap the toothpaste tube so it would prop the little wing open, get back in, start the car, then yank the floss before the engine rev'd a little too hard. It was then a case of hopping out, putting the hood down, collecting the toothpaste tube & floss, then drive down the road until the gas which was flooded into the chamber would run out. After that, it another cycle. Yes, it seemed like a bit of work, but I didn't get sweaty, I didn't have to pay for a tow truck, and I had the curiousity of the garage repairman such that he told me I had a clogged fuel filter and he'd fix it for free if I'd tell him how I got a car fifteen miles down the road with the fuel filter in place. It would seem my little MacGyverism was bypassing the fuel filter. Again, I'm not mechanically inclined, but I can improvise with the best of them. I eliminated the assumptions a garage mechanic would be the only one who could get the car to start|run, that I'd need a tow truck, it would take "proper tools" to fix the problem and that what I had wouldn't fix the problem. (I'm certain I had other assumptions removed at the same time) In fact, what I had was probably better for me as the real set of tools would have been worthless to me because I would have no idea how to fix the situation using them. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 12:15:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4IFG6q017892 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:15:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 344E11E600BC; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:11:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3BE41E6000F for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:11:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A31423@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:03:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14378503 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:03:57 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4I3uh09295 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:03:56 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA4I3tW1025577 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:03:55 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA4I3sWq025524; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:03:54 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031104095942.00a52b20@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 10:00:36 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: You've Been Sent A Postcard! In-Reply-To: <200311041741.hA4Hfdh04914@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:41 PM 11/4/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:12:06 -0800, Peter Kaminski >wrote: > > >Lynne Weber writes, > > > >>It bugs the stew out of me to have the "e" left off my name, as > >>traditionally, that makes it a male name. > > > >Don't tell Wordslers how to bug you. ;) > > >You would that, after having repeatedly watched me crash and burn >against this, the one rule that never varies, Lynne would know better! > >clo You handled it very well, clo. Your stories were always believable. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 12:15:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4IFc6q017897 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:15:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6BEDA1E600C7; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:11:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3754D1E600C4 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:11:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A31409@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:04:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14378510 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:04:18 -0500 Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (imo-r05.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4I4Ih09376 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:04:18 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.b2.2473764d (17377) for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:04:01 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@AOL.COM Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:04:00 EST Subject: Re: You've Been Sent A Postcard! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/3/2003 8:28:34 PM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: >Anyway, I like the uniquity of Johanne. Something happened regarding my eldest dau's name. It's Elisabeth, my mother's middle name. But my dau became catholic, and just recently found out that November 5th, her birthday, is also known in the catholic church, as St. Elisabeth Day. Isn't that a coincidence? Btw. it's spelled with an s, not a z. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 12:27:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4IRq6q018016 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:27:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ED0181E600C9; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:23:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6F281E600C8 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:23:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A314B5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:16:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14379877 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:16:33 -0500 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4IGWh12158 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:16:33 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1cb.13af0324 (17377) for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:16:17 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1cb.13af0324.2cd946f1@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:16:17 EST Subject: Re: Hey, Big 'Al To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/4/2003 4:55:14 AM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >HB, A! And many more happy years too! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 12:43:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4Ihb6q018522 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:43:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7512C1E600C8; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:39:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41E5B1E600C7 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:39:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D02F4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:32:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14380153 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:32:17 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4IMGh12972 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:22:16 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA4ILd3W014369 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:21:39 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:22:16 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: reprieve Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Apparently, I will not have to go to Hattiesburg. My morning flight was cancelled, and I am now scheduled to leave at 8:30 p.m. But a tel call suggests that I may not have to testify. I await final word before trying to retrieve my suitcase. So far, I am not impressed with NWA. Last week, they had to move me over to USAir to get to HS. This week, there was to be a delay of more than 8 hours. But they do give you free food when the screw up your schedule. Last week I got a $5 food voucher good at airports - this week, I got three of them, so had lunch and a cap on them. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 13:00:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4J0c6q019824 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:00:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 712BC1E600CE; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:56:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C25711E600CA for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:56:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A315DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:49:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14382873 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:49:17 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4InGH19003 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:49:17 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA4InG8b017652 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:49:16 -0500 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.103]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA4InFfC029683 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:49:15 -0500 Message-ID: <005b01c3a304$593c0c10$677a8083@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "Wordslurs" Subject: Thanks... Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:49:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ... for the kind birthday notes, y'all. ;-) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 13:13:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4JD56q019946 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:13:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 892C51E600D2; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:08:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04BE71E600D0 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:08:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A31661@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:01:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14384109 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:01:45 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4J1iH21782 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:01:44 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA4J1geO020287 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:01:42 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA4J1fa2020259 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:01:42 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031104105753.00a58aa0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 10:58:19 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Thanks... In-Reply-To: <005b01c3a304$593c0c10$677a8083@awild4dj8f> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU So, tell us how you celebrated. Did the kids bring you breakfast in bed yesterday? Betty At 01:49 PM 11/4/2003 -0500, you wrote: >... for the kind birthday notes, y'all. ;-) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 13:18:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4JIo6q019996 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:18:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EA2751E600D0; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:14:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49E2A1E600CE for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:14:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A316B5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:07:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14384663 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:07:29 -0500 Received: from web20506.mail.yahoo.com (web20506.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA4J7SH22996 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:07:28 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 11:07:27 PST Message-ID: <20031104190727.80861.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:07:27 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: reprieve To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > But they do give you free food when the screw up > your schedule. Last week > I got a $5 food voucher good at airports - this > week, I got three of them, > so had lunch and a cap on them. You got lunch and a cap at an airport eatery for 5 bucks!? Did you negotiate? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 13:31:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4JVh6q020103 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:31:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9E2421E600D1; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:27:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECFAC1E600CB for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:27:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3173A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:20:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14385976 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:20:23 -0500 Received: from fe3.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4JKMH25583 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:20:22 -0500 Received: from [136.167.88.199] (HELO bc.edu) by fe3.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.5) with ESMTP id 35259775 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 14:20:10 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA7FBEA.8050307@bc.edu> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 14:20:10 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: reprieve References: <20031104190727.80861.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031104190727.80861.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It has been a long time since I attended a math class but I am pretty sure that this adds up to $20.00. More than enough for at least the lunch. Rita L. Lynne Weber wrote: >--- "Bethany K. Dumas" >wrote: > > >>But they do give you free food when the screw up >>your schedule. Last week >>I got a $5 food voucher good at airports - this >>week, I got three of them, >>so had lunch and a cap on them. >> >> > >You got lunch and a cap at an airport eatery for 5 >bucks!? Did you negotiate? > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard >http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > > -- Rita Leonard Information Technology Systems Services O'Neill Library 544 Phone: 617-552-3403 Email: rita.leonard@bc.edu "Whether you believe you can do a thing or not, you are right." Henry Ford From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 13:42:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4JgX6q020272 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:42:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0A4331E600D2; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:38:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8515C1E600CF for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:38:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A31793@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:31:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14386944 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:31:12 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4JVBH27553 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:31:12 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA4JVB8b019719 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:31:11 -0500 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.103]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA4JV9fC012043 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:31:10 -0500 Message-ID: <008801c3a30a$3403ca90$677a8083@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031104105753.00a58aa0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Thanks... Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:31:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU [censored] My children all expressed their love with wide smiles and a chorus, and little Ed helped me open a present. [censored] [censored] The weather was incredibly nice... [censored] I packed my Smith and drove my motorcycle to work. Later on I went and got a hair cut ;-) [censored] [censored] [censored] That about covers it... 'just another lap around el sol. (Think of the [censored] mileage!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Clark" > So, tell us how you celebrated. Did the kids bring you breakfast in bed > yesterday? > > Betty > > At 01:49 PM 11/4/2003 -0500, you wrote: > >... for the kind birthday notes, y'all. ;-) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 13:47:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4Jl16q020311 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:47:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1F9331E600D8; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:42:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A43C1E600D2 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:42:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D058D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:35:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14387239 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:35:40 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4JZdH28269 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:35:39 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-96.gwi.net [216.195.150.96]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA4JZbAr042116 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:35:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104143220.00ba5508@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 14:36:03 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: reading and remembering In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77684@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >My mom & I have hypothesized for years if memories (how far they go back) >are relevant to when one learns to read - and thus, start laying down >information in the brain. This sounds bizarre to me. Do you have any evidence that memory has anything to do with knowing how to read? It's not at all obvious that one has anything to do with the other. What about the illiterate people of the world? Do they have no memories? I don't think I learned how to read until I went to school. Yet I remember my grandmother's funeral when I was three-years-old. Your hypothesis above goes even further than memories. I would certainly think that one starts "laying down information in the brain" well before the ability to read. There is evidence that the fetus is already learning in the womb. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 14:46:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4KkI6q021010 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:46:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C097D1E600D5; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:42:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107C51E600D1 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:42:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A31A03@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 15:34:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14391834 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 15:34:57 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4KOnH05542 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 15:24:50 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA4KOA3W015038 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 15:24:11 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 15:24:47 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: reprieve In-Reply-To: <20031104190727.80861.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031104190727.80861.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >> I got a $5 food voucher good at airports - this >> week, I got three of them, >> so had lunch and a cap on them. > >You got lunch and a cap at an airport eatery for 5 >bucks!? Did you negotiate? No, silly, As I said, I got "three of them" - I spent two of them (and $0.08 of my own) for lunch and a cap (as in cappuccino). $10.00. I gave the third one to an employee. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 14:47:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4KlA6q021040 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:47:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3B8F71E600D1; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:42:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F7AE1E600D5 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:42:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A31A13@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 15:35:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14391869 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 15:35:49 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4KPmH05745 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 15:25:48 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA4KPA3W015672 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 15:25:10 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 15:25:47 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: reprieve In-Reply-To: <3FA7FBEA.8050307@bc.edu> Message-ID: References: <20031104190727.80861.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> <3FA7FBEA.8050307@bc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Rita Leonard wrote: >>You got lunch and a cap at an airport eatery for 5 >>bucks!? Did you negotiate? No negotiation today. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 14:49:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4Kni6q021098 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:49:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4BB3C1E600DC; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:45:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D8451E600D4 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:45:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A31A04@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 15:38:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14392014 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 15:38:11 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4KSAH06199 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 15:28:10 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA4KRW3W017184 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 15:27:32 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 15:28:09 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: nwa Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At least they did not send my suitcase to Los Angeles. I was able to retrieve it from the airport. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 15:26:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4LQB6q021474 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 15:26:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AD0361E600E0; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 15:21:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E7181E600D8 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 15:21:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A31C2E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:14:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14397257 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:14:50 -0500 Received: from tharminc.blockade.com ([216.18.57.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4LEnH15696 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:14:49 -0500 Received: from Spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31) ID MO000006; 4 Nov 03 16:14:48 -0500 Received: from spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31); 4 Nov 03 16:14:32 -0500 Received: from tharminc2 (127.0.0.1) by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31) with ESMTP ID MG000005; 4 Nov 03 16:14:29 -0500 From: "Tony Harminc" To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:14:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: stupid work idea Message-ID: <3FA7D064.15495.2ABF866B@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, November 04, 2003 at 8:07, Ann Borkin wrote: > It's steadily, inexorably getting more Office Spacey at work. The latest > idiocy is the United Way Campaign: employees spend money and time > preparing offerings of goods and services, which are then auctioned off > CHEAP at a silent auction. The auction money gets given to UW, who then > of course takes a hefty cut before it gets moved to other agencies who > take their cut . . . I figure that the Mickey Mouse pinata the Library > prepared cost library staff about $100; it got auctioned off for $50. I don't know if you like Dilbert, and in particular the Dilbert TV cartoons. I was surprised to find that the comic strip format scales very well indeed to TV, and has somehow resisted being taken over by the corporate TV types. Anyway, there was an entire episode (number 11, according to Google) on the idiocies of office charity schemes. You can doubtless find it on one of those P2P services... Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 16:06:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4M6p6q021955 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:06:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 09D0E1E600E0; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:02:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC9CB1E600A4 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:02:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D0B00@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:55:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14400479 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:55:29 -0500 Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4LtSH23542 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:55:28 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.5b.4113f22f (3932) for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:55:04 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <5b.4113f22f.2cd97a38@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:55:04 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] troops and suicides: no worry, Rumsfeld is on the case To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/4/2003 9:08:34 AM Central Standard Time, PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM writes: << [1] For some strange reason, I keep thinking David Wayne was a criminal on Batman (the camp, 60s series). >> Yep, he played Jervis Tetch, the Mad Hatter, who could put people to sleep with the device in his hat. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Trying to make sense of the latest Big O From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 16:11:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4MB66q021992 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:11:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 52CFE1E600A4; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:06:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7DE11E600DF for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:06:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D0B27@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:59:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14400961 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:59:43 -0500 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA4LxhH24315 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:59:43 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 13:59:42 PST Message-ID: <20031104215942.37665.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:59:42 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: reprieve To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > No, silly, As I said, I got "three of them" - I > spent two of them (and > $0.08 of my own) for lunch and a cap (as in > cappuccino). $10.00. I > gave the third one to an employee. Well, $10.08 is still fairly cheap for lunch and a cap in any airport, where you are a captive consumer. I hope your employee made use of the voucher.:-] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 16:29:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4MTC6q022160 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:29:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4166F1E600A4; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:24:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07A581E60036 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:24:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A31EB8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:17:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14403322 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:17:51 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4MHoH27694 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:17:50 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.139.118]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031104221745.MJS1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:17:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA82589.4AF0FF3C@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 16:17:45 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor Q References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031103211603.00b8d8d0@pop.gwi.net> <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7766D@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104071020.00b28618@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > >If anyone told me that they knew the person who wins, I would laugh in > >their face. However, if anyone told me that they knew the final two, I > >would say, "so what?". --Ken Miller > > I agree. What I read, however, named a winner based on the location of the > votes cast. The location of the votes cast? I think my brain must be dead -- too many different kinds of activities today, ending with taking Spencer to the vet to find out why he was shaking his ears and finding that he has yeasty ears. Just got home. Anyway, I don't understand what "the location of the votes cast" means. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 16:30:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4MUA6q022164 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:30:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 225391E600A4; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:25:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5F471E60036 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:25:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A31ED5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:18:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14403362 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:18:49 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4MImH27806 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:18:48 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.139.118]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031104221843.MVK1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:18:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA825C0.AD5D4B04@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 16:18:40 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor Q References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031103211603.00b8d8d0@pop.gwi.net> <3FA784FC.57830649@maynor.net> <188141352.20031104063731@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > I've found it amazing that this hasn't happened before -- that there > > haven't been leaks. > > I don't think very many people have a spare $5 million lying around. I wasn't talking about intentional leaks. I was talking about accidental ones. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 16:32:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4MW06q022170 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:32:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0F6FB1E60036; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:27:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC5381E600A4 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:27:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D0C0F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:20:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14403492 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:20:38 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4MKcH28041 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:20:38 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.139.118]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031104222031.NRY1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:20:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA8262E.6E7D00D6@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 16:20:30 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor Q References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77680@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > When Rupert played for the other team, did he spend time at their campsite? Yes. He helped them move their shelter away from the water. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 16:37:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4MbQ6q022252 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:37:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C9AAC1E600DD; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:33:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 935B31E600A4 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:33:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A31EE9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:26:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14403766 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:26:04 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4MQ4H28624 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:26:04 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.139.118]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031104222559.QIE1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:25:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA82777.E0C8AD45@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 16:25:59 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: reprieve References: <20031104190727.80861.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > I got a $5 food voucher good at airports - this > > week, I got three of them, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > so had lunch and a cap on them. > > You got lunch and a cap at an airport eatery for 5 > bucks!? Did you negotiate? 5x3=15 I've been sitting here trying to figure out what a cap was -- like a baseball cap or help with luggage from a redcap or whatever. Finally it struck me -- I bet it means cappucino -- that it's sort of like saying SanFran or fridge. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 16:39:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4Mdt6q022265 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:39:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 35D371E600DD; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:35:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E63F61E600A4 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:35:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A31EF6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:28:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14403947 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:28:34 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4MSXH29023 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:28:33 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.139.118]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031104222828.RMQ1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:28:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA8280C.7BC63370@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 16:28:28 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: reading and remembering References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104143220.00ba5508@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > >My mom & I have hypothesized for years if memories (how far they go back) > >are relevant to when one learns to read - and thus, start laying down > >information in the brain. > > This sounds bizarre to me. Do you have any evidence that memory has > anything to do with knowing how to read? It's not at all obvious that one > has anything to do with the other. I agree. In fact, I would say it's pretty obvious they aren't related. I certainly have lots of memories from before I could read, and, as you say, plenty of people never learn to read yet surely have memories. The idea that one has to start reading to start "laying down information in the brain" strikes me as absurd. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 16:42:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4MgE6q022273 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:42:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 54B561E600A4; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:37:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DFD21E60036 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:37:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A31F07@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:30:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14403515 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:30:53 -0500 Received: from wasp.rahul.net (wasp.rahul.net [66.237.72.9]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4MKqH28082 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:20:52 -0500 Received: by wasp.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 48) id B523336FC9; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:20:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from 65.218.127.161 (SquirrelMail authenticated user karen) by squirrelmail.rahul.net with HTTP; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:20:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4139.65.218.127.161.1067984446.squirrel@squirrelmail.rahul.net> In-Reply-To: <3FA825C0.AD5D4B04@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031103211603.00b8d8d0@pop.gwi.net> <3FA784FC.57830649@maynor.net> <188141352.20031104063731@WordWrite.com> <3FA825C0.AD5D4B04@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:20:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Survivor Q From: karen@rahul.net To: "English Language Discussion Group" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.1-0.2.7.x MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Karen Kay wrote: >> > I've found it amazing that this hasn't happened before -- that there >> > haven't been leaks. >> >> I don't think very many people have a spare $5 million lying around. > > I wasn't talking about intentional leaks. I was talking about > accidental ones. I don't think the rules distinguish. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 16:46:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4MkF6q022320 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:46:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 397271E600DD; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:41:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01B671E600A4 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:41:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A31F1C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:34:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14404243 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:34:54 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4MYrH29674 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:34:53 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.139.118]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031104223448.UFT1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:34:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA82988.88BA30A9@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 16:34:48 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Ballots Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I know that research has shown that being the first name on the list of people running for a particular office helps, but how much does it help? And wouldn't the number of names in the race make a difference? I was thinking about that when voting today -- thinking about how Haley Barbour's name was first out of the five listed, with Musgrove's being next to last. If there were just two names in a race, my guess is that being the first of the two wouldn't make much difference. But being first in a longish list might. I also started thinking about how it would be better, imho, for the circle you blacken to be directly beside the name of the candidate instead of slightly above. I guess it was the Florida mess that made me start thinking about things like this. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 16:47:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4Ml06q022323 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:47:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 883A01E600A4; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:42:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BBA91E600E3 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:42:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A31F11@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:35:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14404282 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:35:39 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4MZaH29781 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:35:36 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.139.118]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031104223531.UNY1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:35:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA829B3.3F9FDD7D@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 16:35:31 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor Q References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031103211603.00b8d8d0@pop.gwi.net> <3FA784FC.57830649@maynor.net> <188141352.20031104063731@WordWrite.com> <3FA825C0.AD5D4B04@maynor.net> <4139.65.218.127.161.1067984446.squirrel@squirrelmail.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU karen@RAHUL.NET wrote: > >> I don't think very many people have a spare $5 million lying around. > > > > I wasn't talking about intentional leaks. I was talking about > > accidental ones. > > I don't think the rules distinguish. ? I'm not talking about rules. I'm talking about people. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 16:54:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4MsD6q022393 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:54:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 47E361E600E3; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:49:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15C6F1E600A4 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:49:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A31F54@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:42:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14404868 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:42:52 -0500 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA4MgpH30948 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:42:52 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 14:42:51 PST Message-ID: <20031104224251.35438.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:42:51 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Ballots To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FA82988.88BA30A9@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: . > I guess it was the > Florida mess that made me start thinking about > things like this. I know it changes the topic, but is there a Musgrove Ritual? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 16:56:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4MuJ6q022410 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:56:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 537751E60036; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:52:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A53C1E600E3 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:52:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A31F69@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:44:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14404945 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:44:51 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4MipH31282 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:44:51 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:44:46 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77695@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Ballots Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:44:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] >Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 5:35 PM >I know that research has shown that being the first name on the list of >people running for a particular office helps, but how much does it >help? And wouldn't the number of names in the race make a difference? >I was thinking about that when voting today -- thinking about how Haley >Barbour's name was first out of the five listed, with Musgrove's being >next to last. If there were just two names in a race, my guess is that >being the first of the two wouldn't make much difference. But being >first in a longish list might. I also started thinking about how it >would be better, imho, for the circle you blacken to be directly beside >the name of the candidate instead of slightly above. I guess >it was the >Florida mess that made me start thinking about things like this. There was a big stink in Indy (as within the geo area of Indy/Marion County proper) where I work as opposed to Hamilton County[1] where I live. Whatever position it was, it was said, "people are grouped by party, not by office they are running for." This showed up less than a month before the election and the Republicans were listed as "The A Team" so they would be listed before "Democrats" - where if they were listed as "Republicans" (and still by party), they'd be at the end. By bringing it out at the end, it was claimed the ballots would have to be redesigned, reprinted, the electronic voting machines would have to be reprogrammed and the counting machines would have to be reprogrammed as well. It was rather blatant and yet surprising a greater stink wasn't raised. (can you guess which party handled the ballot layouts?) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 16:57:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4MvV6q022418 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:57:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5414A1E600A4; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:53:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 257D81E60036 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:53:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A31F74@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:46:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14405042 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:46:10 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4Mk9H31492 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:46:10 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.139.118]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031104224604.ZCX1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:46:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA82C2B.F4954259@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 16:46:03 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ballots References: <20031104224251.35438.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > I know it changes the topic, but is there a Musgrove Ritual? Ritual? Why is my brain not processing things today? First I don't understand what Bonniemae means about the location of the votes cast on Survivor, and now I don't understand what you mean by a Musgrove Ritual. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 17:00:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4N0Y6q022458 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:00:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 71C161E600E9; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:56:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4203A1E600E8 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:56:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A31F95@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:49:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14405311 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:49:13 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4MnDH32250 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:49:13 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.139.118]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031104224907.BAMB1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:49:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA82CE3.913E2F60@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 16:49:07 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ballots References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77695@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > election and the Republicans were listed as "The A Team" so they would be > listed before "Democrats" - where if they were listed as "Republicans" (and > still by party), they'd be at the end. By bringing it out at the end, it Weird. I had assumed that ballots everywhere were alphabetical by candidates' last names. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 17:05:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4N536q022538 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:05:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0F2C71E600E4; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:00:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB2771E600A4 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:00:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A31F8D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:53:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14404921 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:53:42 -0500 Received: from wasp.rahul.net (wasp.rahul.net [66.237.72.9]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4MheH31125 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:43:40 -0500 Received: by wasp.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 48) id 0080436FC9; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:43:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from 65.218.127.161 (SquirrelMail authenticated user karen) by squirrelmail.rahul.net with HTTP; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:43:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4218.65.218.127.161.1067985814.squirrel@squirrelmail.rahul.net> In-Reply-To: <3FA829B3.3F9FDD7D@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031103211603.00b8d8d0@pop.gwi.net> <3FA784FC.57830649@maynor.net> <188141352.20031104063731@WordWrite.com> <3FA825C0.AD5D4B04@maynor.net> <4139.65.218.127.161.1067984446.squirrel@squirrelmail.rahul.net> <3FA829B3.3F9FDD7D@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:43:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Survivor Q From: karen@rahul.net To: "English Language Discussion Group" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.1-0.2.7.x MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > karen@RAHUL.NET wrote: >> >> I don't think very many people have a spare $5 million lying around. >> > >> > I wasn't talking about intentional leaks. I was talking about >> > accidental ones. >> >> I don't think the rules distinguish. > > ? I'm not talking about rules. I'm talking about people. Uh, okay. I think people are more careful when $5 million they don't have is at stake. I'm not surprised that there haven't been any leaks. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 17:05:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4N5D6q022543 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:05:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CCA5B1E600E4; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:00:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DB5B1E600E5 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:00:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A31F9C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:53:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14405563 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:53:51 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4MrpH00377 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:53:51 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:53:46 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77696@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Ballots Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:53:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] >Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 5:49 PM >Phil Paxton wrote: > >> election and the Republicans were listed as "The A Team" so >they would be >> listed before "Democrats" - where if they were listed as >"Republicans" (and >> still by party), they'd be at the end. By bringing it out >at the end, it > >Weird. I had assumed that ballots everywhere were alphabetical by >candidates' last names. So you are unfamiliar with the Chicago Political Machine's motto of "Vote Early and Often" ? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 17:11:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4NBq6q022639 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:11:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 76E2C1E600E5; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:07:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C19C1E600A4 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:07:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A31FCD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:00:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14406100 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:00:30 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4N0RH01215 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:00:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.139.118]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031104230022.BFJE1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:00:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA82F86.854C0FA0@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 17:00:22 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Interesting Goings-On Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I heard a snippet about this on PRM as Spencer and I were returning from the vet, but it didn't say what the were -- just that there were some problems at some voting places. This gives more details: http://www.jacksonfreepress.com/comments.php?id=1938_0_9_0_C -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 17:12:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4NCv6q022667 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:12:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B08221E600E5; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:08:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EB021E600E4 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:08:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A32002@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:01:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14406336 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:01:35 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4N1ZH01630 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:01:35 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.139.118]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031104230130.BFVW1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:01:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA82FCA.A27F1A8@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 17:01:30 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor Q References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031103211603.00b8d8d0@pop.gwi.net> <3FA784FC.57830649@maynor.net> <188141352.20031104063731@WordWrite.com> <3FA825C0.AD5D4B04@maynor.net> <4139.65.218.127.161.1067984446.squirrel@squirrelmail.rahul.net> <3FA829B3.3F9FDD7D@maynor.net> <4218.65.218.127.161.1067985814.squirrel@squirrelmail.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU karen@RAHUL.NET wrote: > Uh, okay. I think people are more careful when $5 million they don't have > is at stake. I'm not surprised that there haven't been any leaks. I don't doubt that they try to be careful. But accidents happen. And the person who accidentally drives over the cliff is just as dead as the person who intentionally does so. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 17:13:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4NDr6q022683 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:13:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0B1B41E600E5; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:09:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0F781E600E4 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:09:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A31FFD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:02:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14406402 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:02:32 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4N2VH01759 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:02:31 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.139.118]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031104230226.BGHB1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:02:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA83002.FA58A1ED@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 17:02:26 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ballots References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77696@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > >Weird. I had assumed that ballots everywhere were alphabetical by > >candidates' last names. > > So you are unfamiliar with the Chicago Political Machine's motto of "Vote > Early and Often" ? No, I'm not unfamiliar with it, but I must have misunderstood it if it has to do with the order of names on the ballots. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 17:22:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4NMA6q022758 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:22:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C59831E600E5; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:17:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 861471E600E4 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:17:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A32021@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:10:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14406870 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:10:48 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4NAmH02648 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:10:48 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.139.118]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031104231043.BJTC1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:10:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA831F3.3492F48C@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 17:10:43 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: The White Dog Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU There was a wonderful picture of The White Dog in today's Reflector (student newspaper). I just looked at the online version and saw that there is no picture, alas: http://www.reflector-online.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2003/11/04/3fa81076574df -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 17:51:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4Npi6q023045 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:51:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4C8E71E600EC; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:47:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1001D1E600E6 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:47:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A320B8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:40:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14408308 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:40:22 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4NeMH06422 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:40:22 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-96.gwi.net [216.195.150.96]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA4NeKGn007313 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:40:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104183857.00bbeeb8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 18:40:18 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Survivor Q In-Reply-To: <3FA82589.4AF0FF3C@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031103211603.00b8d8d0@pop.gwi.net> <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7766D@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104071020.00b28618@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I agree. What I read, however, named a winner based on the location of the > > votes cast. > >The location of the votes cast? I think my brain must be dead -- too >many different kinds of activities today, ending with taking Spencer to >the vet to find out why he was shaking his ears and finding that he has >yeasty ears. Just got home. Anyway, I don't understand what "the >location of the votes cast" means. -- Natalie The people who were placing bets on one certain Ultimate Survivor turned out to be from a certain geographical locale which was close to the place that this survivor was from. Thus the betting agency figured that they knew something and that something was that the local person had won. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 17:53:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA4Nre6q023058 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:53:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5988F1E600EF; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:49:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2402E1E600EE for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:49:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D0DFA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:42:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14408375 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:42:18 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4NgIH06585 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:42:18 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-96.gwi.net [216.195.150.96]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA4NgGAr070729 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:42:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104184132.00bc3cf8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 18:42:15 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Ballots In-Reply-To: <3FA82C2B.F4954259@maynor.net> References: <20031104224251.35438.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Lynne Weber wrote: > > > I know it changes the topic, but is there a Musgrove Ritual? > >Ritual? Why is my brain not processing things today? First I don't >understand what Bonniemae means about the location of the votes cast on >Survivor, and now I don't understand what you mean by a Musgrove Ritual. > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) The Musgrove Ritual is a literary reference to a Sherlock Holmes mystery. And I didn't have to google to know that. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 18:04:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA504S6q023179 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:04:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D797F1E600EF; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:00:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A489D1E600EE for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:00:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A320F3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:53:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14409016 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:53:06 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4Nr6H07617 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:53:06 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA4Nr4Jw021638 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 15:53:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FA83B9A.5000505@swbell.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 17:51:54 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: reading and remembering References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104143220.00ba5508@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: >> My mom & I have hypothesized for years if memories (how far they go back) >> are relevant to when one learns to read - and thus, start laying down >> information in the brain. > > > This sounds bizarre to me. Do you have any evidence that memory has > anything to do with knowing how to read? It's not at all obvious that one > has anything to do with the other. What about the illiterate people of the > world? Do they have no memories? I don't think I learned how to read > until I went to school. Yet I remember my grandmother's funeral when I was > three-years-old. > > Your hypothesis above goes even further than memories. I would certainly > think that one starts "laying down information in the brain" well before > the ability to read. There is evidence that the fetus is already learning > in the womb. It doesn't have anything to do with the ability to learn to read. I'm a little too fried to remember all my developmental psychology crap, but there's a physical brain developmental cut-off period before which you cannot remember anything. It's between 2 - 3. I'm not sure where McGyver here came up with this theory, but it's just plain wrong. There are theories that link learning to the ability to link new information to existing (Piaget), but that's an entirely different thing. So, if your grandfather gets raped, you may or may not learn from the experience, but it isn't going to make you read any sooner or later than you would ordinarily. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 18:05:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA504x6q023186 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:04:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 09E971E600EE; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:00:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF98C1E600E6 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:00:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A32116@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:53:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14409072 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:53:38 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4NrbH07695 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:53:37 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA4NraJw022157 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 15:53:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FA83BBA.4030802@swbell.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 17:52:26 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hurrah! References: <1560018812.1067878031@TWild.uri.edu> <3FA70E36.2000103@swbell.net> <1577631843.1067895644@TWild.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Terry Wild wrote: >> You totally rock, sistah-friend. Congrats! >> > > And you are not far behind! We await YOUR announcement. > Thanks :). Let's just see if I can pass my current class. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 18:07:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA507b6q023227 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:07:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 147F61E600EF; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:03:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D63A01E600E6 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:03:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D0E48@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:56:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14409221 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:56:14 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA4NuEH08000 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:56:14 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-96.gwi.net [216.195.150.96]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA4NuCGn015220 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:56:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104184719.00bb08c0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 18:56:11 -0500 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: bonniev Subject: a nice gift Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Last Thursday night when the aurora was blazing red all over the night sky, I walked across the street to knock on the door of the woman who moved to Maine from California with her MIT scientist husband. She is an artist (www.cartsbasics.com). I knew she would appreciate the beauty of the Northern Lights. She was blown away. Today a card was slipped into our mailbox. It is a thank you from her. She did a watercolor of what we saw that night and stitched it onto the front of the card. Quite nice. This is the neighbor who called me the morning of fest to tell me they would be doing some work inside their house which would involve pounding. She told me to call her if their noise disturbed our party. I was too blown away by her consideration to explain to her at the time that their pounding would be very unlikely to be heard over our partying. We laughed about that later when she said "That was some party you guys had." I guess she thought we might be having a little garden tea party. Ha ! I thought of the fest the other day as I stored our "smoking section" in the basement. The Adirondack chairs are also brought in for the winter. The umbrellas and the geraniums are no longer on our deck. The Opera House/Internet cafe is closed up tight. The Quality Inn is closed for the season and the Edenbrook Motel has been closed for a couple of weeks already. The fountain in the Park where Alan danced before the fireworks is all boarded up. Festing time is over. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 18:39:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA50dj6q023657 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:39:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E194F1E600F7; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:35:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADE071E600FB for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:35:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A32193@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:28:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14410442 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:28:22 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA50ILH10707 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:18:21 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA50Hi3W004636 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:17:44 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:18:21 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: reprieve In-Reply-To: <20031104215942.37665.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031104215942.37665.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >Well, $10.08 is still fairly cheap for lunch and a cap >in any airport, where you are a captive consumer. It seemed right - I was at Ruby Tuesday's - our only airport restaurant. >I hope your employee made use of the voucher.:-] Not my employee - an airport employee. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 18:40:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA50eA6q023662 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:40:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 30C6C1E600EA; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:35:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 027A61E600EE for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:35:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A321AF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:28:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14410768 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:28:48 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA50SlH11547 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:28:47 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.139.118]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031105002842.BMRK1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:28:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA84430.70A4A729@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 18:28:32 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor Q References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031103211603.00b8d8d0@pop.gwi.net> <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7766D@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104071020.00b28618@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104183857.00bbeeb8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > The people who were placing bets on one certain Ultimate Survivor turned > out to be from a certain geographical locale which was close to the place > that this survivor was from. Thus the betting agency figured that they > knew something and that something was that the local person had won. Ah so! It makes sense now. I thought you were talking about the votes on the show. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 18:41:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA50f06q023686 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:41:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0E9191E600F7; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:36:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D44871E600EE for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:36:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A32196@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:29:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14410791 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:29:38 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA50TbH11610 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:29:37 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.139.118]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031105002932.BNAQ1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:29:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA8446C.CE96E421@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 18:29:32 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ballots References: <20031104224251.35438.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104184132.00bc3cf8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > The Musgrove Ritual is a literary reference to a Sherlock Holmes > mystery. And I didn't have to google to know that. Thank you! I am feeling more comfortable about my brain. I've never read any SH mysteries. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 18:46:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA50kB6q023776 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:46:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E46DF1E600F7; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:41:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B35D41E600ED for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:41:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A321A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:34:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14410956 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:34:48 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA50YmH12054 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:34:48 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.139.118]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031105003443.BPCA1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:34:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA845A3.3905642A@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 18:34:43 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: reading and remembering References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104143220.00ba5508@pop.gwi.net> <3FA83B9A.5000505@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > developmental psychology crap, but there's a physical brain > developmental cut-off period before which you cannot > remember anything. It's between 2 - 3. I'm not sure where > McGyver here came up with this theory, but it's just plain > wrong. I remember once thinking that memory might be tied to language (which is not at all the same thing as reading) since we couldn't remember things from before we could talk/comprehend. But then I decided that it was more likely that it had to do with brain development. > > There are theories that link learning to the ability to link > new information to existing (Piaget), but that's an entirely > different thing. > > So, if your grandfather gets raped, you may or may not learn > from the experience, but it isn't going to make you read any > sooner or later than you would ordinarily. I didn't think we were talking about learning to read sooner or later. I thought we were talking about memory in relation to reading. I doubt very much that the Anglo-Saxons in fifth-century England were incapable of having memories. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 18:48:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA50mT6q023802 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:48:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9C9E21E600F9; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:44:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69FE51E600F7 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:44:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A321CC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:37:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14411060 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:37:07 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA50b2H12356 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:37:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.139.118]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031105003657.BQAR1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:36:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA8461E.5A8DEC61@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 18:36:46 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a nice gift References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104184719.00bb08c0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > We laughed about that later when she said "That was some party you guys > had." I guess she thought we might be having a little garden tea party. Ha ! Were they the people we waved at when they were walking by? > I thought of the fest the other day as I stored our "smoking section" in > the basement. The Adirondack chairs are also brought in for the > winter. The umbrellas and the geraniums are no longer on our deck. The > Opera House/Internet cafe is closed up tight. The Quality Inn is closed > for the season and the Edenbrook Motel has been closed for a couple of > weeks already. The fountain in the Park where Alan danced before the > fireworks is all boarded up. Festing time is over. This makes me sad -- nostalgic. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 18:57:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA50vc6q023866 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:57:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 12C451E600F9; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:53:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D80111E600ED for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:53:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A321DE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:46:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14411482 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:46:16 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA50kFH13500 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:46:15 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-96.gwi.net [216.195.150.96]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA50kDAr094022 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:46:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104194356.00bcfb78@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 19:46:12 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: a nice gift In-Reply-To: <3FA8461E.5A8DEC61@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104184719.00bb08c0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >bonniev wrote: > > We laughed about that later when she said "That was some party you guys > > had." I guess she thought we might be having a little garden tea > party. Ha ! >Were they the people we waved at when they were walking by? No. The artist and her husband live across the other street from us. The street that runs past our front door rather than the street that runs past our back yard. > > The fountain in the Park where Alan danced before the > > fireworks is all boarded up. Festing time is over. > >This makes me sad -- nostalgic. > -- Natalie Ah, I knew it would. Did Rashmi announce next year's site while she was here at our house at the beginning of October? Or she still insisting it will be Namibia? bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 18:58:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA50wf6q023924 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:58:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 802AF1E600F9; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:54:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D46E1E600ED for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:54:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D0F41@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:47:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14411502 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:47:16 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA50lCH13596 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:47:12 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA50lA2f005862 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:47:11 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA50lAJC005839; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:47:10 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031104164328.00a56340@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 16:43:53 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: a nice gift In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104184719.00bb08c0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:56 PM 11/4/2003 -0500, bonniev wrote: >This is the neighbor who called me the morning of fest to tell me they >would be doing some work inside their house which would involve >pounding. She told me to call her if their noise disturbed our party. I >was too blown away by her consideration to explain to her at the time that >their pounding would be very unlikely to be heard over our partying. > >We laughed about that later when she said "That was some party you guys >had." I guess she thought we might be having a little garden tea party. Ha ! Did you apologize for us? BB From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 18:58:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA50wf6q023923 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:58:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 772C51E600F7; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:54:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3634F1E600EB for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:54:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D0F25@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:47:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14411495 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:47:06 -0500 Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA50l6H13589 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:47:06 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.f4.3310b549 (30970) for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:46:47 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:46:46 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Ballots To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/4/2003 4:53:59 PM Central Standard Time, PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM writes: << So you are unfamiliar with the Chicago Political Machine's motto of "Vote Early and Often" ? >> And "you don't have to be alive to vote"? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Trying to make sense of the latest Big O From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 18:58:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA50wj6q023930 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:58:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8E4271E600F7; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:54:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E56A1E600ED for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:54:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A321ED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:47:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14411074 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:47:23 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA50bNH12399 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:37:23 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA50aj3W013078 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:36:45 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:37:23 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: octopuses get erections Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Again, I am not lying - I read it on p. A15 of the 10/31 Chronicle of Higher Ed. Some of them get erections, apparently partly as a camouflage technnique. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 19:09:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA519J6q024089 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:09:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8D5481E600F9; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:05:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E17C1E600F7 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:05:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3220E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:57:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14411932 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:57:57 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA50vvH14806 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:57:57 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.139.118]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031105005751.BYCF1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:57:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 18:57:51 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Again, I am not lying - I read it on p. A15 of the 10/31 Chronicle of > Higher Ed. Some of them get erections, apparently partly as a camouflage > technnique. But of course they do. How else would there be baby octopi? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 19:14:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA51Dk6q024147 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:13:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C0D911E600FB; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:09:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EC151E600F9 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:09:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A321FE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:02:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14412056 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:02:23 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA512NH15167 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:02:23 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.139.118]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031105010218.BZZD1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:02:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA84C19.2335D1A2@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 19:02:17 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a nice gift References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104184719.00bb08c0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104194356.00bcfb78@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Did Rashmi announce next year's site while she was > here at our house at the beginning of October? Or she still insisting it > will be Namibia? Afaik, her pronouncement has been Namibia. I was thinking about that the other day, thinking that we need to make more specific plans soon. I'd prefer to use ff miles to get there, and that usually means long-range planning for summer travel. I did check the visa situation and found that U.S. citizens can enter Namibia as tourists with only a passport. But that's all I've done so far. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 19:22:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA51Ms6q024243 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:22:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B40861E600FC; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:18:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 811411E600FB for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:18:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A32216@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:11:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14412325 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:11:31 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA51BUH16000 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:11:30 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003110501112401500o390be> (Authid: adamh1); Wed, 5 Nov 2003 01:11:24 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: You've Been Sent A Postcard! Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:11:22 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Something happened regarding my eldest dau's name. It's Elisabeth, [snip] > Isn't that a coincidence? Btw. it's spelled with an s, not a z. My great-grandmother spelled her name that way, but then her parents were natives of either Berlin or Mainz, I can't remember. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 19:23:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA51Nv6q024252 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:23:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 528441E600F7; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:19:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 833161E600EB for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:19:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D0FAA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:12:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14412068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:12:33 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA512XH15192 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:02:33 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA511t3W025389 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:01:55 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:02:32 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> Again, I am not lying - I read it on p. A15 of the 10/31 Chronicle of >> Higher Ed. Some of them get erections, apparently partly as a camouflage >> technnique. > >But of course they do. How else would there be baby octopi? Actually, very few of them get erections. Only the two-spot ones. And they are, acc to the CHE, the only soft-bodied animals known to have erectile tissue. B. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 19:26:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA51QJ6q024278 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:26:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EFC5A1E600F7; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:22:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B92E51E600EB for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:22:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D0FB4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:14:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14412475 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:14:56 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA51EuH16318 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:14:56 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.139.118]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031105011447.SGLU1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:14:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA84F06.38651B6C@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 19:14:46 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: More and More Interesting Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The letters from Dem and Repub state chairs re the poll-watching stuff: http://www.jacksonfreepress.com/comments.php?id=1943_0_9_0_C -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 19:31:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA51VV6q024377 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:31:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 98B6F1E600EB; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:27:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AE7E1E600F7 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:27:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3223C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:20:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14412564 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:20:08 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA51K8H16669 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:20:08 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.139.118]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031105012002.SJLG1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:20:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA85042.A3D24B78@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 19:20:02 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections References: <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Actually, very few of them get erections. Only the two-spot ones. How sad. Have the others been told about Viagra? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 19:35:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA51Z36q024389 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:35:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8C0BB1E600FC; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:30:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5307F1E600FB for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:30:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A32238@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:23:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14412645 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:23:39 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA51NAH16948 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:23:10 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.139.118]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031105012304.SLDL1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:23:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA850F8.E26A3690@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 19:23:04 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: You've Been Sent A Postcard! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield wrote: > > > Something happened regarding my eldest dau's name. It's Elisabeth, > [snip] > > Isn't that a coincidence? Btw. it's spelled with an s, not a z. > > My great-grandmother spelled her name that way, but then her parents were > natives of either Berlin or Mainz, I can't remember. I've known various Elisabeths. My next-door neighbor in childhood was one. And she was from Jackson, Mississippi. (I did find it a bit odd that Theo, after having spelled it Elisabeth a couple of times in the posting added that it's spelled with an s, not a z. That struck me as quite clear from her having spelled it that way.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 19:35:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA51Z36q024390 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:35:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BD3881E600FB; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:30:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C4111E600FF for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:30:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A32247@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:23:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14412653 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:23:39 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA51NWH16965 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:23:32 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20031105012326013005au1ce> (Authid: adamh1); Wed, 5 Nov 2003 01:23:26 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: stupid work idea Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:23:24 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <3FA7D064.15495.2ABF866B@localhost> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I don't know if you like Dilbert, and in particular the Dilbert TV > cartoons. I was surprised to find that the comic strip format scales > very well indeed to TV, and has somehow resisted being taken over by > the corporate TV types. Yeah, I think the Dilbert TV cartoon was great, in retrospect. One of my coworkers gave me CDs he burned from downloaded episodes....I've watched a few of them and they're funny. The only videos I watch at work are Nields music videos when I need a pick-me-up. Ah, having an external USB hard drive for all my personal crap is . --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 20:26:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA52Q96q024942 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:26:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 31E9E1E600FF; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:21:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F29451E600AD for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:21:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D104C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:14:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14414308 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:14:44 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA52EiH21949 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:14:44 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA52EgIf008551 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:14:43 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:15:13 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <14010488877.20031104201513@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, November 04, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > Again, I am not lying - I read it on p. A15 of the 10/31 Chronicle of > Higher Ed. Some of them get erections, apparently partly as a camouflage > technnique. A camouflage technique? They hide among all the other erections? Mmm... Sausage *and* octopus! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 20:27:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA52Rf6q024971 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:27:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6421D1E600EB; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:23:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 326101E600AD for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:23:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A322E1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:16:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14414357 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:16:18 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA52GIH22088 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:16:18 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA52GHYB023061 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:16:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:16:45 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1461371056.20031104201645@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77683@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77683@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, November 04, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > would appear we never see all of the ballots unless they all are 50-50 and > the last vote breaks the tie. I'm not certain what their overall strategy > is but it would be interesting to know. You can find the tallies on the web site. Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 20:29:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA52TL6q024992 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:29:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CBDCA1E600F6; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:25:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A5D71E600AD for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:25:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A322DA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:17:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14414429 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:17:58 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA52HwH22258 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:17:58 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA52HvTX017774 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:17:57 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FA85D8A.4040908@swbell.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 20:16:42 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: reading and remembering References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104143220.00ba5508@pop.gwi.net> <3FA83B9A.5000505@swbell.net> <3FA845A3.3905642A@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Rita Chapman wrote: > > >>developmental psychology crap, but there's a physical brain >>developmental cut-off period before which you cannot >>remember anything. It's between 2 - 3. I'm not sure where >>McGyver here came up with this theory, but it's just plain >>wrong. >> > > I remember once thinking that memory might be tied to language (which is > not at all the same thing as reading) since we couldn't remember things > from before we could talk/comprehend. But then I decided that it was > more likely that it had to do with brain development. They're linked in some ways, but not like that. We are capable of using language at about four months of age -- you can teach an infant to use sign language before they're eating solid food. This is well below that memory cut-off period. Nobody has memories from that age. Reading and language are linked; although it is not a clear cause-effect relationship. > I didn't think we were talking about learning to read sooner or later. > I thought we were talking about memory in relation to reading. I doubt > very much that the Anglo-Saxons in fifth-century England were incapable > of having memories. Well, he was crediting his ability to read at age 2 with having memories. I don't know how you quantify or qualify memory. How can two 1-year-olds have a different number of memories? Wouldn't they be equal in number if their lives are equal in length? Perhaps he's saying they're unequal in quality -- one infant listens to Mozart and goes to Gymboree while the other is put in front of Fox TV all day. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 20:31:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA52Vg6q025029 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:31:42 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3C18E1E60105; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:27:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D3031E600AD for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:27:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A322E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:20:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14414519 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:20:19 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA52KIH22463 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:20:18 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA52KIYB000985 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:20:18 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:20:47 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1729302477.20031104202047@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Survivor Q In-Reply-To: <3FA82FCA.A27F1A8@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031103211603.00b8d8d0@pop.gwi.net> <3FA784FC.57830649@maynor.net> <188141352.20031104063731@WordWrite.com> <3FA825C0.AD5D4B04@maynor.net> <4139.65.218.127.161.1067984446.squirrel@squirrelmail.rahul.net> <3FA829B3.3F9FDD7D@maynor.net> <4218.65.218.127.161.1067985814.squirrel@squirrelmail.rahul.net> <3FA82FCA.A27F1A8@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, November 04, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > karen@RAHUL.NET wrote: >> Uh, okay. I think people are more careful when $5 million they don't have >> is at stake. I'm not surprised that there haven't been any leaks. > I don't doubt that they try to be careful. But accidents happen. And > the person who accidentally drives over the cliff is just as dead as the > person who intentionally does so. Do you know the term 'occasion of sin'? I suspect that with $5 million at stake you avoid any situation where you might even be tempted. But, speculate as you will, I'm not helping any more. Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 20:34:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA52YV6q025049 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:34:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 053FE1E600F6; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:30:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB3311E600AD for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:30:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3230C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:23:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14414700 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:23:08 -0500 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA52N8H22915 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:23:08 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 18:23:07 PST Message-ID: <20031105022307.92565.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:23:07 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: The White Dog To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FA831F3.3492F48C@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > There was a wonderful picture of The White Dog in > today's Reflector > (student newspaper). I just looked at the online > version and saw that > there is no picture, alas: This is all very well, but have they done background checks on the prospective adoptive family? Spencer should be of good cheer. When life gives you yeast, bake bread. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 20:34:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA52Yc6q025053 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:34:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8AB5B1E60105; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:30:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C9641E600FF for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:30:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3230D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:23:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14414712 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:23:15 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA52NFH22946 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:23:15 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA52NEIf024411 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:23:14 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:23:44 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <458801369.20031104202344@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Ballots In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104184132.00bc3cf8@pop.gwi.net> References: <20031104224251.35438.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104184132.00bc3cf8@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, November 04, 2003, bonniev wrote: > The Musgrove Ritual is a literary reference to a Sherlock Holmes > mystery. And I didn't have to google to know that. I thought it was Musgrave Ritual. Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 20:38:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA52ca6q025106 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:38:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 581621E600FA; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:34:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2914E1E600F8 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:34:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3231C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:27:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14414878 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:27:12 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA52RCH23470 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:27:12 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.139.118]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031105022707.EQQG1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:27:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA85FFB.EE748E6D@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 20:27:07 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: reading and remembering References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104143220.00ba5508@pop.gwi.net> <3FA83B9A.5000505@swbell.net> <3FA845A3.3905642A@maynor.net> <3FA85D8A.4040908@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > > I remember once thinking that memory might be tied to language (which is > > not at all the same thing as reading) since we couldn't remember things > > from before we could talk/comprehend. But then I decided that it was > > more likely that it had to do with brain development. > > They're linked in some ways, but not like that. We are > capable of using language at about four months of age -- > you can teach an infant to use sign language before they're > eating solid food. This is well below that memory cut-off > period. Nobody has memories from that age. I know. As I said, that was a thought I once had but that I quickly reconsidered (long before the evidence re sign language and infants came along). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 20:39:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA52do6q025119 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:39:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E9E6C1E600FA; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:35:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B98431E600AD for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:35:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A32319@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:28:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14414955 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:28:27 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA52SRH23588 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:28:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.139.118]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031105022822.ERDL1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:28:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA86046.7DDBE3F0@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 20:28:22 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor Q References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031103211603.00b8d8d0@pop.gwi.net> <3FA784FC.57830649@maynor.net> <188141352.20031104063731@WordWrite.com> <3FA825C0.AD5D4B04@maynor.net> <4139.65.218.127.161.1067984446.squirrel@squirrelmail.rahul.net> <3FA829B3.3F9FDD7D@maynor.net> <4218.65.218.127.161.1067985814.squirrel@squirrelmail.rahul.net> <3FA82FCA.A27F1A8@maynor.net> <1729302477.20031104202047@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > I don't doubt that they try to be careful. But accidents happen. And > > the person who accidentally drives over the cliff is just as dead as the > > person who intentionally does so. > > Do you know the term 'occasion of sin'? I suspect that with $5 million > at stake you avoid any situation where you might even be tempted. But, > speculate as you will, I'm not helping any more. I am crushed that you aren't helping anymore. (No, I don't know the term "occasion of sin.") -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 20:42:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA52gh6q025144 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:42:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8BF821E600F8; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:38:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54A791E600AD for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:38:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D1096@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:31:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14415066 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:31:20 -0500 Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com (web20502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA52V6H23852 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:31:06 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 18:31:06 PST Message-ID: <20031105023106.44289.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:31:06 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: You've Been Sent A Postcard! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Adam Hartfield wrote: > > Something happened regarding my eldest dau's name. > It's Elisabeth, > [snip] > > Isn't that a coincidence? Btw. it's spelled with > an s, not a z. > > My great-grandmother spelled her name that way, but > then her parents were > natives of either Berlin or Mainz, I can't remember. The "s" is the European spelling. In Theo's daughter's case, her actaul birthday (name day) and saint's day are one and the same. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 20:43:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA52h36q025149 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:43:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9A5461E600F8; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:38:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C7F31E600AD for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:38:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D1099@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:31:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14414653 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:31:40 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA52LdH22741 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:21:39 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA52L03W027835 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:21:02 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:21:37 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <14010488877.20031104201513@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <14010488877.20031104201513@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >> Again, I am not lying - I read it on p. A15 of the 10/31 Chronicle of >> Higher Ed. Some of them get erections, apparently partly as a camouflage >> technnique. > >A camouflage technique? They hide among all the other erections? Well, since you asked: (last para): "[T]he two-spot octopus evolved the erectile tissue through an adaptive compromise. A larger copulatory organ transfers more sperm. But such an appendage also makes the two-spot octopus, which hunts during the day, more obvious to predators because its ligula is white, and not camoflouged like the rest of the animal. An erection gives the two-spot octopus the best of both worlds." (The is the copulatory organ.) (See the current issue of _Journal of Zoology_.) Now what were you going to have for breakfast? B. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 20:43:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA52hl6q025164 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:43:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8B0D41E600FA; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:39:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D50B1E600F8 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:39:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D109A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:32:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14415128 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:32:12 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA52WCH24018 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:32:12 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-139.gwi.net [216.195.153.139]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA52W3Gn081151 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:32:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213053.00bc7230@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 21:32:00 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: a nice gift In-Reply-To: <3FA84C19.2335D1A2@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104184719.00bb08c0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104194356.00bcfb78@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Afaik, her pronouncement has been Namibia. I was thinking about that >the other day, thinking that we need to make more specific plans soon. >I'd prefer to use ff miles to get there, and that usually means >long-range planning for summer travel. I did check the visa situation >and found that U.S. citizens can enter Namibia as tourists with only a >passport. But that's all I've done so far. -- Natalie I doubt that many wordslers are going to be able to afford Namibia. I thought Rashmi asked Rita if she was willing to host fest next year and that Rita said yes. I thought this all happened at this year's fest. I'm confused. Rita?? bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 20:44:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA52iO6q025171 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:44:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 47F191E600FA; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:40:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A0F01E600F8 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:40:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3232E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:33:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14415162 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:33:01 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA52X0H24073 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:33:01 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-139.gwi.net [216.195.153.139]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA52WqAr040935 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:32:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 21:32:50 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: References: <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Actually, very few of them get erections. Only the two-spot ones. >And they are, acc to the CHE, the only soft-bodied animals known to have >erectile tissue. --Bethany Doesn't it break your vow of chastity to be thinking about these things?? bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 20:45:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA52jS6q025177 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:45:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EEEEB1E600F8; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:41:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE8F1E600AD for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:41:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D10A0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:34:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14415196 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:34:05 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA52Y5H24212 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:34:05 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.139.118]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031105023400.ETPS1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:34:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA86198.1C94CAA7@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 20:34:00 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The White Dog References: <20031105022307.92565.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > This is all very well, but have they done background > checks on the prospective adoptive family? The OCHS always does background checks on prospective adoptive families. > Spencer should be of good cheer. When life gives you > yeast, bake bread. He was not at all of good cheer at Dr. Anthony's office this afternoon. He was highly upset by the ear gouging. I hope his return visit next week is less traumatic. And I hope Spencer isn't too resistant to my admininstering of the eardrops twice a day for the next week. Tomorrow morning will be my first administering. Dr. Anthony did the first administering, late this afternoon. Spencer was not happy with it, but I think I can make it easier for him. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 20:45:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA52jY6q025183 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:45:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 307BC1E60105; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:41:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 009551E600F8 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:41:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D10A1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:34:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14415207 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:34:11 -0500 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA52YAH24228 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:34:10 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 18:34:10 PST Message-ID: <20031105023410.58695.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:34:10 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: stupid work idea To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Adam Hartfield wrote: > Yeah, I think the Dilbert TV cartoon was great, in > retrospect. One of my > coworkers gave me CDs he burned from downloaded > episodes....I've watched a > few of them and they're funny. Where on TV were the Dilbert episodes? Any chance of reruns? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 20:46:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA52k96q025187 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:46:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3542B1E60105; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:41:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07AE61E600F8 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:41:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3233F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:34:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14415219 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:34:46 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA52YjH24261 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:34:45 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-139.gwi.net [216.195.153.139]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA52YiGn081906 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:34:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213344.08a67f48@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 21:34:43 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: You've Been Sent A Postcard! In-Reply-To: <3FA850F8.E26A3690@maynor.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I've known various Elisabeths. My next-door neighbor in childhood was >one. And she was from Jackson, Mississippi. -- Natalie My sister is an Elisabeth. And, I guess, that's my third name. Bonnie Mae Elisabeth Dreps Voigtlander. I think we took a confirmation name. But it was never formalized. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 20:47:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA52lR6q025200 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:47:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7D91C1E600FA; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:43:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D07B1E600AD for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:43:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3232C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:36:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14415304 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:36:04 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA52a4H24492 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:36:04 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.139.118]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031105023555.EUKE1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:35:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA8620B.FA8CBCBE@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 20:35:55 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections References: <14010488877.20031104201513@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: [stuff about sex lives of octopi] I take it that you aren't heading to Hburg tonight. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 20:50:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA52od6q025239 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:50:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3C4911E60105; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:46:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ECA81E600FA for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:46:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A32331@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:39:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14415374 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:39:16 -0500 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA52dFH24861 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:39:15 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 18:39:15 PST Message-ID: <20031105023915.60801.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:39:15 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: octopuses get erections To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: > Doesn't it break your vow of chastity to be thinking > about these things?? This is news to me. When did Bethany vow to be chaste? What other rash decisions has she made? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 20:51:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA52pU6q025244 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:51:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CBE771E60105; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:47:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8888F1E600FA for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:47:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3234C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:40:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14415403 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:40:05 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA52e0H24970 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:40:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.139.118]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031105023955.EWFZ1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:39:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA862FB.23DF38D0@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 20:39:55 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a nice gift References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104184719.00bb08c0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104194356.00bcfb78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213053.00bc7230@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > I doubt that many wordslers are going to be able to afford Namibia. I > thought Rashmi asked Rita if she was willing to host fest next year and > that Rita said yes. I thought this all happened at this year's fest. I'm > confused. Rita?? I had thought the same thing you thought. But then Rashmi pronounced Namibia. I must admit that I preferred the old system when the next year's site was announced at the current fest. The attendees at the current fest heard it first. Then somebody rushed to a computer and announced it to Wordslers not present. That system seemed to work well, imho. But when I mentioned that at Acadiafest, I was told that that's not how we do it anymore. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 20:54:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA52sH6q025257 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:54:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5B5B51E60110; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:49:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E521E600FA for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:49:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3234A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:42:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14415505 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:42:54 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA52gsH25413 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:42:54 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20031105024248014001fk2ke> (Authid: adamh1); Wed, 5 Nov 2003 02:42:48 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: stupid work idea Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:42:45 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20031105023410.58695.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Where on TV were the Dilbert episodes? Any chance of > reruns? UPN, I believe. No idea as to reruns. Heck, it might be on still, for all I know. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 20:54:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA52sZ6q025269 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:54:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BC04C1E60110; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:50:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D19E1E60105 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:50:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D10D9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:43:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14415528 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:43:12 -0500 Received: from web20511.mail.yahoo.com (web20511.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.150]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA52hCH25463 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:43:12 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20511.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 18:43:11 PST Message-ID: <20031105024311.353.qmail@web20511.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:43:11 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: The White Dog To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FA86198.1C94CAA7@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: And I hope Spencer isn't > too resistant to my > admininstering of the eardrops twice a day for the > next week. Tomorrow > morning will be my first administering. Dr. Anthony > did the first > administering, late this afternoon. Spencer was not > happy with it, but > I think I can make it easier for him. He'll appreciate your doing it. As you can imagine, ear problems for Jaysie loom rather large. She doesn't seem to object too much to doctoring, though. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 20:56:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA52uF6q025287 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:56:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E9F371E600F4; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:51:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B926D1E60105 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:51:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D10C5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:44:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14415644 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:44:52 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA52iqH25648 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:44:52 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-13.gwi.net [216.195.150.13]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA52ioGn085253 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:44:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213946.08a70708@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 21:40:16 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Ballots In-Reply-To: <458801369.20031104202344@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104184132.00bc3cf8@pop.gwi.net> <20031104224251.35438.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104184132.00bc3cf8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > bonniev wrote: > > The Musgrove Ritual is a literary reference to a Sherlock Holmes > > mystery. And I didn't have to google to know that. > >I thought it was Musgrave Ritual. >Karen, >Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... Yes, it evidently is. I was corrected here in my own home. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 20:56:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA52ub6q025291 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:56:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 736081E600F4; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:52:19 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4411E1E60110 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:52:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3235E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:45:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14415661 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:45:14 -0500 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA52jDH25736 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:45:13 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 18:45:12 PST Message-ID: <20031105024512.94786.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:45:12 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: stupid work idea To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Adam Hartfield wrote: > > Where on TV were the Dilbert episodes? Any chance > of > > reruns? > > UPN, I believe. No idea as to reruns. Heck, it might > be on still, for all I > know. > > --Adam Thanks, I'll look for them. We get UPN, but I hardly ever check it. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 21:01:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA531O6q025356 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:01:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9DAB01E60118; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:56:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E1C21E60116 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:56:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3235D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:48:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14415801 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:48:55 -0500 Received: from web20501.mail.yahoo.com (web20501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.136]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA52mtH26074 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:48:55 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 18:48:54 PST Message-ID: <20031105024854.93712.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:48:54 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Ballots To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213946.08a70708@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: > Yes, it evidently is. I was corrected here in my > own home. I know, I know. It was just that I immediately thought of the story when I read the name. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 21:07:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA537d6q025481 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:07:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 25B7B1E60115; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:03:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E69251E60110 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:03:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A32383@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:56:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14416038 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:56:15 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA52uEH26793 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:56:15 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-13.gwi.net [216.195.150.13]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA52uDAr055769 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:56:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104215542.08a65e18@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 21:56:12 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <20031105023915.60801.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Doesn't it break your vow of chastity to be thinking > > about these things?? > >This is news to me. When did Bethany vow to be >chaste? What other rash decisions has she made? Several years ago. It was no rash decision. She had a church ceremony and everything. With a bishop. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 21:09:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA539Z6q025500 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:09:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9E39F1E60110; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:05:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C7091E600F4 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:05:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3237E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:58:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14416131 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:58:12 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA52wCH27089 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:58:12 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-13.gwi.net [216.195.150.13]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA52wAAr057005 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:58:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104215743.08a6fea0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 21:58:09 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Ballots In-Reply-To: <20031105024854.93712.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213946.08a70708@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >--- bonniev wrote: > > Yes, it evidently is. I was corrected here in my > > own home. > > >I know, I know. It was just that I immediately thought >of the story when I read the name. So I was correct in catching your reference. What's one letter off between friends?! bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 21:18:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA53In6q025658 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:18:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AE2F11E60116; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:14:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F9C21E60115 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:14:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A323A4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 22:07:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14416411 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 22:07:26 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA537QH28332 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 22:07:26 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA537PIf000201 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:07:25 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:07:51 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <291641702.20031104210751@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: stupid work idea In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, November 04, 2003, Adam Hartfield wrote: >> Where on TV were the Dilbert episodes? Any chance of >> reruns? > UPN, I believe. No idea as to reruns. Heck, it might be on still, for all I > know. I'm pretty sure it predates UPN. It was on whatever UPN used to be. Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 21:21:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA53Lt6q025689 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:21:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 22B1D1E60116; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:17:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E06CE1E600F4 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:17:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A323A8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 22:10:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14416473 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 22:10:32 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA53AVH28662 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 22:10:31 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.139.118]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031105031026.FJST1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 22:10:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA86A22.EA16A9D7@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 21:10:26 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Slow Election Returns Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm glad I didn't go to the local Musgrove headquarters tonight to listen to election returns communally. They're too slow in coming. I am probably going to go to bed before a winner is announced. Why stay up wondering? I've done what I can do to support my candidates. There's nothing more I can do. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 21:37:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA53be6q025936 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:37:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2F9EB1E60110; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:33:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F08BF1E60105 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:33:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D120E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 22:26:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14416755 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 22:26:16 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA53QGH30029 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 22:26:16 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 76A172B8FA; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:26:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E6442B8E6 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:26:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:26:15 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: headphones Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I can't take the ferry routinely any more because they cut out the bus route from the ferry to the bus stop below my hill. It's tough. Too crowded and too noisy and jerk-jerk-jerk. Also, today, SMELLY with too many stressed out people in the aisles. I know people gave me suggestions for good noise-barring earphones - Pete did, I'm sure, and possibly Adam. But I've lost the suggestions - could I have a repeat? thanks Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 21:37:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA53bw6q025944 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:37:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 541CF1E60116; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:33:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 201B11E60110 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:33:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A323C6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 22:26:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14416765 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 22:26:35 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f90.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.90]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA53QYH30057 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 22:26:34 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:26:29 -0800 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 03:26:28 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: reading and remembering Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 22:26:28 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2003 03:26:29.0081 (UTC) FILETIME=[99DDFC90:01C3A34C] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>My mom & I have hypothesized for years if memories (how far they go back) >>are relevant to when one learns to read - and thus, start laying down >>information in the brain. I've seen a number of responses now discounting this with various degrees of strength, but it might be more interesting to learn whether there are specific differences in the way the brain stores "read" memories versus other kinds of memories. Musical aptitude and memory, for instance, have a fairly well defined and understood physical locus in the brain. Does the brain process "read" input in the same way it process "spoken" input? When people talk about having a "photographic memory" for text, are they describing a distinctive processing method that some folks use and some don't? Clearly, reading is a late development, so there shouldn't be any significant evolutionary mechanisms specifically associated with reading, but we know that significant musical activity can drive the physical development of the brain in certain directions. Does beginning to read a particular developmental stage have an analogous impact on brain development? And if so, does that development have an impact on memory? _________________________________________________________________ Compare high-speed Internet plans, starting at $26.95. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 21:40:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA53ej6q025963 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:40:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F28F01E60110; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:36:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C408F1E60105 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:36:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A323DA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 22:29:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14416845 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 22:29:21 -0500 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA53TLH30346 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 22:29:21 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 19:29:20 PST Message-ID: <20031105032920.84106.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:29:20 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: octopuses get erections To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104215542.08a65e18@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: > Several years ago. It was no rash decision. She > had a church ceremony and > everything. With a bishop. Sounds vaguely unchaste. I have heard her referred to as a proselytizer, but didn't know what her line was, exactly. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 21:41:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA53fb6q025989 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:41:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 931161E60110; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:37:19 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65D971E60105 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:37:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A323D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 22:30:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14416884 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 22:30:14 -0500 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA53UEH30463 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 22:30:14 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 19:30:13 PST Message-ID: <20031105033013.93572.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:30:13 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Ballots To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104215743.08a6fea0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: > So I was correct in catching your reference. What's > one letter off between > friends?! Yo! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 21:46:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA53ka6q026055 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:46:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 85EC81E60118; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:42:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 579071E600FE for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:42:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A323DE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 22:35:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14416985 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 22:34:58 -0500 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA53YwH30862 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 22:34:58 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 19:34:57 PST Message-ID: <20031105033457.4247.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:34:57 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: reading and remembering To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Marty Rosen wrote: > >>My mom & I have hypothesized for years if memories > (how far they go back) > >>are relevant to when one learns to read - and > thus, start laying down > >>information in the brain. > > I've seen a number of responses now discounting this > with various degrees of > strength, but it might be more interesting to learn > whether there are > specific differences in the way the brain stores > "read" memories versus > other kinds of memories. Musical aptitude and > memory, for instance, have a > fairly well defined and understood physical locus in > the brain. Does the > brain process "read" input in the same way it > process "spoken" input? When > people talk about having a "photographic memory" for > text, are they > describing a distinctive processing method that some > folks use and some > don't? > > Clearly, reading is a late development, so there > shouldn't be any > significant evolutionary mechanisms specifically > associated with reading, > but we know that significant musical activity can > drive the physical > development of the brain in certain directions. > Does beginning to read a > particular developmental stage have an analogous > impact on brain > development? And if so, does that development have > an impact on memory? Well, yes and no. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 22:16:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA54Gg6q026322 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 22:16:42 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D0F251E60120; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 22:12:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 185431E60101 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 22:12:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D13F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 23:05:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14421241 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 23:05:17 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA545GH03658 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 23:05:16 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA545FIf027808 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 22:05:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 22:05:30 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <629670703.20031104220530@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: reading and remembering In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, November 04, 2003, Marty Rosen wrote: > Does the brain process "read" input in the same way it process > "spoken" input? There's a surprisingly strong phonological component in the process of reading Japanese, so I think that the two are more similar than they are different. > When people talk about having a "photographic memory" for text, are > they describing a distinctive processing method that some folks use > and some don't? Don't know--I often remember text on the page, but sometimes I remember it in my ears. But I don't have anything approaching a photographic memory. > Clearly, reading is a late development, so there shouldn't be any > significant evolutionary mechanisms specifically associated with reading, > but we know that significant musical activity can drive the physical > development of the brain in certain directions. Does beginning to read a > particular developmental stage have an analogous impact on brain > development? And if so, does that development have an impact on memory? Reading and being read to both have huge impacts on brain development. Hm. That may be a clue. I'm too tired to tell. Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 22:32:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA54WT6q026443 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 22:32:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EBA5C1E60101; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 22:28:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCE7F1E6012E for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 22:28:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A326A5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 23:21:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14423285 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 23:21:05 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA54L5H05632 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 23:21:05 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003110504205901100rbjfue>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 04:21:00 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104201100.05ab2378@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 20:20:42 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: headphones In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin writes, >I know people gave me suggestions for good noise-barring earphones - Pete >did, I'm sure, and possibly Adam. But I've lost the suggestions - could I >have a repeat? I've used both noise-cancelling headphones and earplug headphones. The former work a little better on airplanes with that steady hiss, but I like the earplugs better on buses. Koss "The Plug", about $15. I like them very much and don't travel without them. Best Buy has them, among others. After using those, I ended up going to the drugstore and bought similar foam earplugs, and used them often on the bus, too (without thinking about how dorky I looked with green foam things in my ears). They palpably reduce my stress level after the ride as well, even without the music. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 23:07:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA557E6q026809 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 23:07:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0F8B81E6012F; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 23:02:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D45751E6012E for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 23:02:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3273E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 23:55:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14424211 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 23:55:50 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA54jnH08058 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 23:45:49 -0500 Received: (qmail 74401 invoked by uid 1003); 5 Nov 2003 04:45:47 -0000 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 22:45:47 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: reading and remembering Message-ID: <20031105044547.GA70699@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 10:26:28PM -0500, Marty Rosen wrote: > I've seen a number of responses now discounting this with various degrees > of strength, but it might be more interesting to learn whether there are > specific differences in the way the brain stores "read" memories versus > other kinds of memories. Musical aptitude and memory, for instance, have > a fairly well defined and understood physical locus in the brain. Does > the brain process "read" input in the same way it process "spoken" input? I intuitively feel I do. I don't think I have much "photographic" memory for words. Also, searching for a passage in a book from visual recollection has almost always failed for me--if I think it was in the top half of an odd page, for instance, it might be in the bottom half of an even page. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 23:08:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA558D6q026829 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 23:08:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 06BB41E6012A; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 23:03:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C96241E600FD for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 23:03:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3272D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 23:56:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14424254 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 23:56:49 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA54knH08133 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 23:46:49 -0500 Received: (qmail 74761 invoked by uid 1003); 5 Nov 2003 04:46:48 -0000 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 22:46:48 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: headphones Message-ID: <20031105044648.GB70699@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 07:26:15PM -0800, Ann Borkin wrote: > I can't take the ferry routinely any more because they cut out the bus > route from the ferry to the bus stop below my hill. > > It's tough. Too crowded and too noisy and jerk-jerk-jerk. Also, today, > SMELLY with too many stressed out people in the aisles. > > I know people gave me suggestions for good noise-barring earphones - Pete > did, I'm sure, and possibly Adam. But I've lost the suggestions - could I > have a repeat? What's your address? I will send you my high-tech noise-cancelling headphones. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 23:09:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA559U6q026844 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 23:09:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 589151E6012E; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 23:05:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29CFC1E6012A for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 23:05:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A32754@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 23:58:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14424343 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 23:58:06 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA54m5H08276 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 23:48:05 -0500 Received: (qmail 75215 invoked by uid 1003); 5 Nov 2003 04:48:04 -0000 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 22:48:04 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections Message-ID: <20031105044804.GC70699@words-l.org> References: <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >But of course they do. How else would there be baby octopi? Animals have much more sophisticated methods, Dr Maynor. On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 08:02:32PM -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > Actually, very few of them get erections. Only the two-spot ones. > And they are, acc to the CHE, the only soft-bodied animals known to have > erectile tissue. Tentacles are more important. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 23:45:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA55jd6q027169 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 23:45:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D899E1E60131; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 23:41:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4BE21E6012F for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 23:41:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A32890@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 0:34:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14426809 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 00:33:30 -0500 Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com (web20502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA556uH10441 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 00:06:56 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 21:06:56 PST Message-ID: <20031105050656.75992.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:06:56 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: octopuses get erections To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031105044804.GC70699@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > Tentacles are more important. Where are ours? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 4 23:46:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA55k46q027176 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 23:46:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A67271E6012A; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 23:41:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 707601E6010C for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 23:41:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D16A4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 0:34:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14427035 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 00:33:36 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA55DhH11203 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 00:13:43 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2003110505133701200ft342e>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 05:13:37 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104204358.05ab7eb8@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 21:13:20 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: reading and remembering In-Reply-To: <629670703.20031104220530@WordWrite.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Here's my take, from mid-November 2001. Not reading, but the ability to describe an event in a sentence, at least for one of the major kinds of memory. There are a number of kinds, of course. ==== Rita writes, >How reliable do you feel your memory is? If you and another person recall >the same event differently, how sure are you that your version is what >really happened? How sure are you that what you recall is accurate? I'll offer a meta-answer. I don't remember :) if this is based on one line of research, or if it's synthesized from various places, but here's what I think: The kind of memory that lets you recall events works in little "stories," where the minimal "little story" is a subject/object and a verb (i.e., a sentence). Some are little longer or more detailed, but the basic memory and recall is one of creating the story, saving it, then retelling it to yourself to get the event back. People have other kinds of memories, too, like memories of smells, or people's faces, or the memory that lets you sing (or sing along with) a song. These work differently from the story memory that lets you recall events (although sometimes they work together -- you might have a little story that "grandpa's house smells moldy" that goes along with the sense memory, or vice versa). So the details of a recalled event are basically all in the little stories that you told yourself as the event unfolded or as you digested it in the hours after the event. (Doris' examples were very good.) If there were details that didn't get stori-ized, you have to guess them based on the stories you do have. If you fabricated parts of the story, the fabrications are going to be what's recalled (along with maybe, or maybe not, how the fabrication was constructed). There's a relationship here to kids' memories, too: you can recall impressions from early childhood, before you learned to make stories, but not events. Hmm, now that I'm writing it out I remember there's a wrapper theory that goes around all this, that all memories are recalled impingements-on-senses (where some of the impingements can be fabricated). Recalled-stories are probably usually created of fabricated vocalizations. I know I keep phone numbers and word spellings at least three ways: as recalled visualizations, vocalizations, or auditions. ==== Tushar Samant writes, > > The kind of memory that lets you recall events works in little "stories," > >How's an event different from a story? Event: A manifold physical occurrence. Story: A simplified expression of the perceptions of an event, comprised of actors, objects and actions. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 00:02:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA56286q027296 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 00:02:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 144841E60131; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 23:57:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3CDB1E6012F for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 23:57:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A329A0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 0:50:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14429001 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 00:50:43 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f23.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.23]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA55ohH15882 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 00:50:43 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:50:38 -0800 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 05:50:37 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: reading and remembering Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 00:50:37 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2003 05:50:38.0062 (UTC) FILETIME=[BD0FC0E0:01C3A360] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Rita Chapman >> Well, he was crediting his ability to read at age 2 with >having memories. I don't know how you quantify or qualify >memory. How can two 1-year-olds have a different number of >memories? Wouldn't they be equal in number if their lives >are equal in length? Perhaps he's saying they're unequal in >quality -- one infant listens to Mozart and goes to Gymboree >while the other is put in front of Fox TV all day. I think this is the point. The act of reading as reading can't be isolated from the social context in which it occurs. A child who begins reading early has likely been exposed to a more nurturing intellectual environment and a much richer set of stimuli than one who hasn't (that is, assuming that we can agree that there is a big difference between, say, sitting on mom's lap and being read to and sitting in a high chair staring at a television). The "read-to" child probably has heard the same texts repeated over and over, has heard them performed with varied inflections and interpretations, has asked questions about the texts, and had a series of more or less intentional experiences that may cultivate memory in ways that random tv watching doesn't duplicate. The same child in a pre-literate culture would also have heard stories performed in the same way - the only missing ingredient being the book - and would have had the same experience. The original "hypothesis" (that's not quite what it was) that triggered this thread may be incorrect in its specifics-- that is the notion that reading itself promotes memory development. But if early reading is an indicator of other factors, and I suspect it is, those underlying factors could definitely have an impact on memory and brain development. The original notion of a link between reading and memory development could be comfortably subsumed within that broader notion. _________________________________________________________________ >From Beethoven to the Rolling Stones, your favorite music is always playing on MSN Radio Plus. No ads, no talk. Trial month FREE! http://join.msn.com/?page=offers/premiumradio From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 05:37:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5Bbo6q030722 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 05:37:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9847D1E60129; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 05:33:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 679E51E60127 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 05:33:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A32E63@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 6:26:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14439548 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 06:26:24 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5BQNH11008 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 06:26:23 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.50]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031105112618.HJLV1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 06:26:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA8DE5B.8A699D0C@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 05:26:19 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections References: <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <20031105044804.GC70699@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > Animals have much more sophisticated methods, Dr Maynor. Be more specific, please. How do octopi ? With all those limbs flopping around, it would be a shame for them not to be involved at all. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 06:10:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5CA26q031035 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 06:10:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0E7211E6014B; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 06:05:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2DA41E60149 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 06:05:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A32ED8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 6:58:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14440282 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 06:58:35 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5BwYH13770 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 06:58:35 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA5Bw50O023344 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 03:58:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FA8E5A2.9000402@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 05:57:22 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: reading and remembering References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104204358.05ab7eb8@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU And I have a 20-page take on it sitting in some obscure folder on this computer, but I didn't explore any links between reading and memory, just the relationship between personality and memory. Peter Kaminski wrote: > Here's my take, from mid-November 2001. Not reading, but the ability to > describe an event in a sentence, at least for one of the major kinds of > memory. There are a number of kinds, of course. > > ==== > > Rita writes, > >> How reliable do you feel your memory is? If you and another person >> recall >> the same event differently, how sure are you that your version is what >> really happened? How sure are you that what you recall is accurate? > > > I'll offer a meta-answer. > > I don't remember :) if this is based on one line of research, or if it's > synthesized from various places, but here's what I think: > > The kind of memory that lets you recall events works in little "stories," > where the minimal "little story" is a subject/object and a verb (i.e., a > sentence). Some are little longer or more detailed, but the basic memory > and recall is one of creating the story, saving it, then retelling it to > yourself to get the event back. > > People have other kinds of memories, too, like memories of smells, or > people's faces, or the memory that lets you sing (or sing along with) a > song. These work differently from the story memory that lets you recall > events (although sometimes they work together -- you might have a little > story that "grandpa's house smells moldy" that goes along with the sense > memory, or vice versa). > > So the details of a recalled event are basically all in the little stories > that you told yourself as the event unfolded or as you digested it in the > hours after the event. (Doris' examples were very good.) If there were > details that didn't get stori-ized, you have to guess them based on the > stories you do have. If you fabricated parts of the story, the > fabrications are going to be what's recalled (along with maybe, or maybe > not, how the fabrication was constructed). > > There's a relationship here to kids' memories, too: you can recall > impressions from early childhood, before you learned to make stories, but > not events. > > Hmm, now that I'm writing it out I remember there's a wrapper theory that > goes around all this, that all memories are recalled impingements-on-senses > (where some of the impingements can be fabricated). Recalled-stories are > probably usually created of fabricated vocalizations. I know I keep phone > numbers and word spellings at least three ways: as recalled visualizations, > vocalizations, or auditions. > > ==== > > Tushar Samant writes, > >> > The kind of memory that lets you recall events works in little >> "stories," >> >> How's an event different from a story? > > > Event: A manifold physical occurrence. > > Story: A simplified expression of the perceptions of an event, comprised of > actors, objects and actions. > > Pete > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 06:13:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5CDG6q031065 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 06:13:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1A8191E6014B; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 06:08:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D81A31E60149 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 06:08:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A32EDA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 7:01:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14440406 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:01:49 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5C1nH00830 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:01:49 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA5C1K0O024074 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 04:01:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FA8E665.8040304@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 06:00:37 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: reading and remembering References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen wrote: >> From: Rita Chapman >> >>> Well, he was crediting his ability to read at age 2 with >> >> having memories. I don't know how you quantify or qualify >> memory. How can two 1-year-olds have a different number of >> memories? Wouldn't they be equal in number if their lives >> are equal in length? Perhaps he's saying they're unequal in >> quality -- one infant listens to Mozart and goes to Gymboree >> while the other is put in front of Fox TV all day. > > > I think this is the point. The act of reading as reading can't be isolated > from the social context in which it occurs. A child who begins reading > early has likely been exposed to a more nurturing intellectual environment > and a much richer set of stimuli than one who hasn't (that is, assuming > that > we can agree that there is a big difference between, say, sitting on mom's > lap and being read to and sitting in a high chair staring at a television). There is a correlative relationship, but not a cause-effect relationship. There are many children who are read to, kept away from Bill O'Reilly, and given rich environments who are relatively late readers (both Ana and I are relatively late readers). There are other children who are not nurtured in that way who read very early. In general, a rich cultural/intellectual environment will encourage the intellectual curiousity that drives the desire to read, but it is not the only factor. > The original "hypothesis" (that's not quite what it was) that triggered > this > thread may be incorrect in its specifics-- that is the notion that reading > itself promotes memory development. But if early reading is an > indicator of > other factors, and I suspect it is, those underlying factors could > definitely have an impact on memory and brain development. The original > notion of a link between reading and memory development could be > comfortably > subsumed within that broader notion. No, he was saying the reverse -- that memory development spurs reading ability. Read absolutely spurs brain development -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 06:14:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5CE96q031087 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 06:14:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3CBAD1E60151; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 06:09:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E1601E6014C for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 06:09:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A32EE7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 7:02:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14440413 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:02:42 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5C2gH00879 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:02:42 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA5C2D0O024502 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 04:02:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FA8E69A.6080100@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 06:01:30 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: reading and remembering References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104143220.00ba5508@pop.gwi.net> <3FA83B9A.5000505@swbell.net> <3FA845A3.3905642A@maynor.net> <3FA85D8A.4040908@swbell.net> <3FA85FFB.EE748E6D@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Rita Chapman wrote: > >>>I remember once thinking that memory might be tied to language (which is >>>not at all the same thing as reading) since we couldn't remember things >>>from before we could talk/comprehend. But then I decided that it was >>>more likely that it had to do with brain development. >>> >> They're linked in some ways, but not like that. We are >>capable of using language at about four months of age -- >>you can teach an infant to use sign language before they're >>eating solid food. This is well below that memory cut-off >>period. Nobody has memories from that age. >> > > I know. As I said, that was a thought I once had but that I quickly > reconsidered (long before the evidence re sign language and infants came > along). I re-read that and figured you would know such things. Sorry. Was still in high school mode. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 06:26:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5CQF6q031178 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 06:26:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D3D151E60146; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 06:21:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A47B91E60127 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 06:21:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A32F17@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 7:14:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14440832 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:14:36 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5CEZH01842 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:14:35 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA5CEYJw026589 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 04:14:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FA8E963.7010308@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 06:13:23 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a nice gift References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104184719.00bb08c0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104194356.00bcfb78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213053.00bc7230@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: >> Afaik, her pronouncement has been Namibia. I was thinking about that >> the other day, thinking that we need to make more specific plans soon. >> I'd prefer to use ff miles to get there, and that usually means >> long-range planning for summer travel. I did check the visa situation >> and found that U.S. citizens can enter Namibia as tourists with only a >> passport. But that's all I've done so far. -- Natalie > > > I doubt that many wordslers are going to be able to afford Namibia. I > thought Rashmi asked Rita if she was willing to host fest next year and > that Rita said yes. I thought this all happened at this year's fest. I'm > confused. Rita?? Only Rashmi can make such things official. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 07:11:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5DBO6q031570 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:11:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E7C4C1E60151; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:07:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6AA31E6014C for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:07:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D1C17@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 7:59:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14442063 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:59:57 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5CnvH06176 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:49:57 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA5CnH3W005114 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:49:19 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:49:55 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> Message-ID: References: <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, bonniev wrote: >Doesn't it break your vow of chastity to be thinking about these things?? Celibacy. No. All Episcopalians are still allowed to use our brains, though whether that would remain true was recently in doubt. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 07:14:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5DEC6q031608 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:14:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D1C1F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 8:02:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14442185 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:02:22 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5CqMH06514 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:52:22 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA5Cpi3W006966 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:51:44 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:52:21 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <3FA8620B.FA8CBCBE@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <14010488877.20031104201513@WordWrite.com> <3FA8620B.FA8CBCBE@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I take it that you aren't heading to Hburg tonight. Right. It happens often in trademark cases that lawyers change tactics at the last minute. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 07:14:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5DEf6q031612 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:14:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D35B91E60152; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:10:19 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A15A31E6014C for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:10:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A32FCB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 8:03:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14442219 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:03:14 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5CrEH06590 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:53:14 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA5CqZ3W007654 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:52:35 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:53:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <20031105023915.60801.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031105023915.60801.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >This is news to me. When did Bethany vow to be >chaste? What other rash decisions has she made? As of Nov. 21, 2002, I am a life-vowed celibate. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 07:21:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5DLB6q031687 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:21:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 06F9A1E60135; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:16:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C710A1E6014C for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:16:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A32FEC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 8:09:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14442614 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:09:42 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5CxgH07611 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:59:42 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA5Cx33W013262 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:59:03 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:59:41 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104215542.08a65e18@pop.gwi.net> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104215542.08a65e18@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, bonniev wrote: >>This is news to me. When did Bethany vow to be >>chaste? What other rash decisions has she made? > >Several years ago. It was no rash decision. She had a church ceremony and >everything. With a bishop. The occupied seveal years. After years of prayer, contemplation, and conversation about this, I first made one-year vows, then renewed them for a second year, then made life vows. To my bishop - standing in for God. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 07:22:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5DM06q031697 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:22:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D1DAC1E6015C; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:17:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA701E60152 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:17:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A32FD6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 8:10:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14443053 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:10:33 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5DAXH08940 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:10:33 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA5DAWYB026128 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:10:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:11:06 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <993555362.20031105071106@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: References: <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 05, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > Celibacy. No. All Episcopalians are still allowed to use our brains, > though whether that would remain true was recently in doubt. Was? I don't think it's over. Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 07:28:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5DSd6q031761 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:28:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 24EBF1E6015C; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:24:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB2D11E6015A for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:24:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A32FFF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 8:17:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14443328 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:17:11 -0500 Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5DHBH09821 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:17:11 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HNV007RHRKNX8@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 08:17:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.73] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 05 Nov 2003 08:13:23 -0500 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 08:13:23 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Survivor Q To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <4553534592c1.4592c1455353@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > When Rupert played for the other team, did he spend time at > their campsite? > > Yes. He helped them move their shelter away from the water. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) And he fished for them. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 07:30:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5DUk6q031833 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:30:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 786201E6014C; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:26:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49C7B1E60135 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:26:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D1C6F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 8:19:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14443456 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:19:19 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5DJIH10286 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:19:18 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA5DJHYB004766 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:19:18 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:19:51 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <188030873.20031105071951@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: reading and remembering In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, November 04, 2003, Marty Rosen wrote: > The "read-to" child probably has heard the same texts repeated over and > over, has heard them performed with varied inflections and interpretations, > has asked questions about the texts, and had a series of more or less > intentional experiences that may cultivate memory in ways that random tv > watching doesn't duplicate. The same child in a pre-literate culture would > also have heard stories performed in the same way - the only missing > ingredient being the book - and would have had the same experience. Right--and it's not just passive; read-to children often take the initiative to read to others. (Cue: Paul.) Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 07:33:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5DXj6q031866 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:33:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 005131E6015A; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:29:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2C261E60135 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:29:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A33035@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 8:22:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14443127 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:22:17 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5DCGH09137 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:12:16 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA5DBc3W024022 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:11:38 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:12:16 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <993555362.20031105071106@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <993555362.20031105071106@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >> Celibacy. No. All Episcopalians are still allowed to use our brains, >> though whether that would remain true was recently in doubt. > >Was? I don't think it's over. You may be right. But to most Episcopalians, there is simply no issue. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 07:37:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5DbD6q031883 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:37:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AF71E1E6014C; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:32:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75B6F1E60135 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:32:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A33048@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 8:25:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14444036 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:25:46 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5DPkH11950 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:25:46 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA5DPiYB011808 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:25:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:26:18 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <427917379.20031105072618@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: References: <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <993555362.20031105071106@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 05, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >>> Celibacy. No. All Episcopalians are still allowed to use our brains, >>> though whether that would remain true was recently in doubt. >> >>Was? I don't think it's over. > You may be right. But to most Episcopalians, there is simply no issue. "Most"? I think your POV is skewed, or all the news reports I've been reading are wrong. You are beginning to sound like Natalie. Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 07:37:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5Dbi6q031886 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:37:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 31B271E6015A; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:33:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00B381E6014C for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:33:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A33049@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 8:26:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14444052 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:26:16 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5DQGH12029 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:26:16 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA5DQFIf003721 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:26:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:26:49 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1737306156.20031105072649@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Survivor Q In-Reply-To: <4553534592c1.4592c1455353@optonline.net> References: <4553534592c1.4592c1455353@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 05, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: >> > When Rupert played for the other team, did he spend time at >> their campsite? >> >> Yes. He helped them move their shelter away from the water. >> >> -- >> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > And he fished for them. More importantly, he taught them how to use their spear. Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 07:42:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5DgU6q031952 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:42:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 38D041E6015F; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:38:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBD991E6015C for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:38:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A33078@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 8:31:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14443608 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:31:02 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5DL2H10809 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:21:02 -0500 Received: from ra.msstate.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.12.10/8.12.8/ra_1.2) with ESMTP; id hA5DKwaK018214; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:20:58 -0600 (CST) Received: (from maynor@localhost) by ra.msstate.edu (8.12.10/8.12.7/Submit) id hA5DKvkZ018213; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:20:57 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:20:57 -0600 (CST) From: Natalie Maynor Message-Id: <200311051320.hA5DKvkZ018213@ra.msstate.edu> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Cc: primate@brownvm.brown.edu Subject: One Bright Spot Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU One bright spot in the otherwise dreary (but not surprising) election results: The Chancery Clerk we had the fancy party for won. It was pretty close, but she made it. --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 07:52:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5DqO6q032035 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:52:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E1D291E6015F; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:48:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B248E1E6015C for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:48:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A33098@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 8:40:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14444982 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:40:56 -0500 Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5DeuH14879 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:40:56 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HNV009SASO78S@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 08:40:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.73] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 05 Nov 2003 08:37:07 -0500 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 08:37:07 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Survivor Q To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <45a0eb45b7a8.45b7a845a0eb@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > And he fished for them. > > More importantly, he taught them how to use their spear. Not really, since they still can't do it. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 08:03:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5E3L6q032152 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:03:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8378D1E6015F; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:57:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 546E51E6015C for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:57:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A330F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 8:50:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14445804 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:50:29 -0500 Received: from web20515.mail.yahoo.com (web20515.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.232.184]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA5DoTH16944 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:50:29 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20515.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 05:50:28 PST Message-ID: <20031105135029.77567.qmail@web20515.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 05:50:28 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: octopuses get erections To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" > As of Nov. 21, 2002, I am a life-vowed celibate. > > Bethany Hmm. Coming up on the first anniversary. How does one celebrate remaining celibate? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 08:06:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5E6s6q032206 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:06:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8A3641E60160; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:02:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 531DC1E6015F for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:02:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3313A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 8:55:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14446312 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:55:27 -0500 Received: from web20516.mail.yahoo.com (web20516.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.232.185]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA5DtQH18180 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:55:26 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20516.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 05:55:26 PST Message-ID: <20031105135526.1586.qmail@web20516.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 05:55:26 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Survivor Q To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <45a0eb45b7a8.45b7a845a0eb@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote: > > > And he fished for them. > > > > More importantly, he taught them how to use their > spear. > > Not really, since they still can't do it. > > Marie Ha! Do they have one spear amongst them all (in that tribe)? Do you have a proud mama's report on Laszlo's progress? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 08:14:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5EEJ6q032280 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:14:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6F45E1E6014C; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:09:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 412B51E60162 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:09:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A33160@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 9:02:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14446949 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:02:52 -0500 Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5E2pH19703 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:02:51 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HNV005FPTORPJ@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 09:02:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.73] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 05 Nov 2003 08:59:03 -0500 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 08:59:03 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Survivor Q To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <4578a145cb55.45cb554578a1@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Lynne Weber > Do you have a proud mama's report on Laszlo's > progress? Well, I don't remember what I posted to the list most recently. But he's doing really well, seems to be over his anxiety attacks. The plastic (v. wire) crate seems to have done the trick. He's a joy, he cracks me up. Okay, he's also a pain in the ass, but he's a sweet puppy. We hiked along a stretch of the Appalachian Trail last weekend. He was in heaven. Our big thing this morning is that I clipped his nails for the first time -- with the aid of peanut butter as a reward. He was squirmy at first and I was tentative, but as soon as we got into the groove (and he realized, squirm=no peanut butter), we did just fine. I also weighed him on the scale with me this morning -- looks like he's up to 22 lbs. -- growing fast. And he's really skinny, but getting tall. A gangly young boy. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 08:37:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5Eba6q032487 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:37:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DC0791E60168; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:33:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9906A1E60167 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:33:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3320D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 9:26:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14448583 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:26:08 -0500 Received: from web20506.mail.yahoo.com (web20506.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA5EQ7H23641 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:26:08 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 06:26:06 PST Message-ID: <20031105142606.2401.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 06:26:06 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Survivor Q To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <4578a145cb55.45cb554578a1@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote: > I also weighed him on the scale with me this morning > -- looks like he's up to 22 lbs. -- growing fast. > And he's really skinny, but getting tall. A gangly > young boy. > > Marie So glad y'all got over that rough patch. Excellent report, in all departments. Gold stars for Laszlo, Milkbone for Marie. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 08:43:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5EhX6q032557 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:43:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7BF9A1E60167; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:39:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 473501E60162 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:39:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3323F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 9:32:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14449248 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:32:05 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5EW4H25319 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:32:04 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-243.gwi.net [216.195.157.243]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA5EW0Ar048639 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:32:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105092942.00b96968@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 09:31:33 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: reading and remembering In-Reply-To: <3FA8E665.8040304@swbell.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>The original "hypothesis" (that's not quite what it was) that triggered >>this thread may be incorrect in its specifics-- that is the notion that >>reading >>itself promotes memory development. But if early reading is an >>indicator of other factors, and I suspect it is, those underlying factors >>could >>definitely have an impact on memory and brain development. The original >>notion of a link between reading and memory development could be >>comfortably subsumed within that broader notion. --Marty > >No, he was saying the reverse -- that memory development >spurs reading ability. Read absolutely spurs brain development >Rita Rouvalis Chapman This is what he said: "My mom & I have hypothesized for years if memories (how far they go back) are relevant to when one learns to read - and thus, start laying down information in the brain." I favor Marty's interpretation which was also mine. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 08:46:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5Ekw6q032597 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:46:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E55E51E60168; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:42:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFED71E60167 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:42:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A33279@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 9:35:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14449641 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:35:30 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5EZUH26250 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:35:30 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-243.gwi.net [216.195.157.243]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA5EZSAr049096 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:35:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 09:35:30 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Doesn't it break your vow of chastity to be thinking about these things?? > >Celibacy. No. All Episcopalians are still allowed to use our brains, >though whether that would remain true was recently in doubt. >Bethany Ah, yes. Celibacy. Sorry. I guess I was thinking of the Franciscan vows of Poverty, Chastity, and Obedience. Which do you think would be harder for you Bethany, the poverty or the obedience????????? bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 08:48:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5EmO6q032610 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:48:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B7E8E1E60168; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:44:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 873241E60166 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:44:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A33274@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 9:36:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14449746 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:36:56 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA5EauH26435 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:36:56 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 09:36:55 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 09:36:38 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: why I read the Canadian news Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-874 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hA5EmO6q032610 An article in The Star this morning says: WASHINGTON—A call from the U.S. Defence Department for volunteers to sit on local draft boards has sparked debate here about whether a nationwide military draft could ultimately be needed to complete Washington's Iraq mission. I have heard nothing in the US news about this. So, I checked the DoD website and found: http://www.defendamerica.mil/articles/sss092203.html Now I know that this is not reinstating the draft, but it is clearly preparation for it. I would think this information would be of interest to at least some US citizens. BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 08:48:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5Emk6q032616 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:48:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2F2F81E60166; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:44:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F17AC1E60162 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:44:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A33278@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 9:37:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14449786 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:37:18 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5EbIH26539 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:37:18 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-243.gwi.net [216.195.157.243]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA5EbGGn062237 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:37:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093659.00b9eeb8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 09:37:18 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: One Bright Spot In-Reply-To: <200311051320.hA5DKvkZ018213@ra.msstate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU And Maine voted down the resort casino, two to one! >One bright spot in the otherwise dreary (but not surprising) >election results: The Chancery Clerk we had the fancy party for >won. It was pretty close, but she made it. > --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 09:44:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5FiP6q000597 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:44:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 122A21E6016F; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:40:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBB4D1E6016E for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:40:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A33500@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:32:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14455811 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:32:57 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5FWrH07948 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:32:57 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:32:48 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77698@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: reading and remembering Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:32:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Diegetic Mutant Hog [mailto:whore@WORDS-L.ORG] >Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 11:46 PM >On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 10:26:28PM -0500, Marty Rosen wrote: >> I've seen a number of responses now discounting this with >various degrees >> of strength, but it might be more interesting to learn >whether there are >> specific differences in the way the brain stores "read" >memories versus >> other kinds of memories. Musical aptitude and memory, for >instance, have >> a fairly well defined and understood physical locus in the >brain. Does >> the brain process "read" input in the same way it process >"spoken" input? > >I intuitively feel I do. > >I don't think I have much "photographic" memory for words. Also, >searching for a passage in a book from visual recollection has >almost always failed for me--if I think it was in the top half >of an odd page, for instance, it might be in the bottom half of >an even page. As I mentioned in a previous message, I've gone from full text recall to "indexing". I believe this is a trait I inherited from my mother - she never had full recall, but herely indexing. (She's also tone deaf but an excellent musician - which sounds (intentional paronomasia) odd). If I had to guess, I think it was when I had access to more information which would have been post high school. Until then, I had regular access to a small newsstand which only stocked three or four newspapers and a fairly smallish inventory of books. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 09:48:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5FmV6q000625 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:48:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 67C1E1E60169; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:44:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3933D1E6016E for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:44:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D210D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:37:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14456200 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:36:55 -0500 Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com (web20502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA5FatH08931 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:36:55 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 07:36:54 PST Message-ID: <20031105153654.96753.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:36:54 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: octopuses get erections To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: > Ah, yes. Celibacy. Sorry. I guess I was thinking > of the Franciscan vows > of Poverty, Chastity, and Obedience. Which do you > think would be harder > for you Bethany, the poverty or the > obedience????????? My, my. No contest, really. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 09:50:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5FoV6q000638 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:50:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A4A3E1E6016E; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:46:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D0BB1E60169 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:46:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D2123@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:39:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14456346 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:39:03 -0500 Received: from web20512.mail.yahoo.com (web20512.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA5Fd2H09342 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:39:02 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20512.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 07:39:02 PST Message-ID: <20031105153902.48544.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:39:02 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: why I read the Canadian news To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Paul Barfoot wrote: > I have heard nothing in the US news about this. So, > I checked the DoD website and found: > > http://www.defendamerica.mil/articles/sss092203.html > > > > Now I know that this is not reinstating the draft, > but it is clearly preparation for it. I would think > this information would be of interest to at least > some US citizens. Indeed, it would and should be. So where are the New York Times, the Washington Post and the LA Times? > > > BrP > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 09:54:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5Fs96q000660 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:54:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9EB0F1E60177; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:49:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BB601E6016F for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:49:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A33558@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:42:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14456765 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:42:41 -0500 Received: from tharminc.blockade.com ([216.18.57.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5FgeH10460 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:42:40 -0500 Received: from Spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31) ID MO00000A; 5 Nov 03 10:42:38 -0500 Received: from spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31); 5 Nov 03 10:42:32 -0500 Received: from tharminc2 (127.0.0.1) by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31) with ESMTP ID MG000009; 5 Nov 03 10:42:28 -0500 From: "Tony Harminc" To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:42:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: headphones Message-ID: <3FA8D413.24578.2EB5F57C@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104201100.05ab2378@mail.istori.com> References: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, November 04, 2003 at 20:20, Peter Kaminski wrote: > I've used both noise-cancelling headphones and earplug headphones. The > former work a little better on airplanes with that steady hiss, but I like > the earplugs better on buses. Hmmm... Are the noise-cancelling ones very expensive? Do they not work a *lot* better as theory suggests they should? It turns out that I'm going to Brazil on Friday (first crossing of the equator - I remember my mum telling me about some ritual when you do this on a ship). I'm not supposed to be a road warrior for work, but suddenly the trips are piling on, and I'm not too happy about the idea of two 11 hour overnight flights in steerage. At least there's little jet lag to worry about. > After using those, I ended up going to the drugstore and bought similar > foam earplugs, and used them often on the bus, too (without thinking about > how dorky I looked with green foam things in my ears). They palpably > reduce my stress level after the ride as well, even without the music. Are these just the ordinary expanding foam plugs sold at safety supply places and the like, or something fancier? Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 09:54:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5FsP6q000663 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:54:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C67171E6016F; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:50:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 978F51E6016E for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:50:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3355F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:42:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14456816 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:42:57 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5FguH10516 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:42:57 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:42:51 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77699@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: reading and remembering Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:42:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Marty Rosen [mailto:meeberphobia@HOTMAIL.COM] >Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 12:51 AM >The "read-to" child probably has heard the same texts repeated over and >over, has heard them performed with varied inflections and >interpretations, >has asked questions about the texts, and had a series of more or less >intentional experiences that may cultivate memory in ways that >random tv >watching doesn't duplicate. The same child in a pre-literate >culture would >also have heard stories performed in the same way - the only missing >ingredient being the book - and would have had the same experience. > >The original "hypothesis" (that's not quite what it was) that >triggered this >thread may be incorrect in its specifics-- that is the notion >that reading >itself promotes memory development. But if early reading is >an indicator of >other factors, and I suspect it is, those underlying factors could >definitely have an impact on memory and brain development. >The original >notion of a link between reading and memory development could >be comfortably >subsumed within that broader notion. The only repetition I was exposed to (according to my mother) was letters; words, of varying sizes - based upon available blocks; and sentences, with total lengths based upon and words based upon the number of blocks available. Aside from that, I was taught to read from the morning newspaper which might have had ongoing stories but different content each day. For my mom, it was as much an avenue of fun than anything else. I certainly wasn't in a position to say, "no! I don't want to learn to read." I will say it's had a lingering effect on me - I am a still a voracious reader - growing up, my mother has told me she never say, "Mom, I need something to do." And at a mall when everyone was turned loose (before the days of everyone worrying about kidnappers and perverts every night on the evening news), it was a matter of, "Everyone meet at 3pm." If I wasn't there, I was the last one they searched for. I was either in one of the book stores, shopping or sitting in front of one, reading. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 10:03:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5G3I6q000743 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:03:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 456581E60177; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:58:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 140851E6016F for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:58:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A33602@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:51:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14458017 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:51:49 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5FpnH13494 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:51:49 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 897132B903; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:51:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F68C2B8FA for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:51:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:51:48 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: headphones In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104201100.05ab2378@mail.istori.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Peter Kaminski wrote: [helpful advice] Thanks, Pete I don't know why the earplug headphones don't work on me but they don't. At least the ones I've tried. Maybe I'm afraid to jam them in far enough - they keep falling out when I crane my neck. And I'm a huge neck-craner, it goes along with the bad eyesight I guess. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 10:04:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5G4I6q000753 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:04:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F3A131E6016F; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:59:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B061E6016E for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:59:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A33603@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:52:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14458110 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:52:49 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5FqnH13693 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:52:49 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:52:42 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7769A@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: reading and remembering Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:52:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] >Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 8:20 AM >On Tuesday, November 04, 2003, Marty Rosen wrote: >> The "read-to" child probably has heard the same texts >repeated over and >> over, has heard them performed with varied inflections and >interpretations, >> has asked questions about the texts, and had a series of more or less >> intentional experiences that may cultivate memory in ways >that random tv >> watching doesn't duplicate. The same child in a >pre-literate culture would >> also have heard stories performed in the same way - the only missing >> ingredient being the book - and would have had the same experience. > >Right--and it's not just passive; read-to children often take the >initiative to read to others. (Cue: Paul.) Not in this case. The older of my two sisters is two years younger and my mom has said I didn't read to her (as an audience). I've known for years why and it continues until this day. I can't stand her and never have. Growing up, the people in my family were there because I was forced to have them there. After I left the house, the people in my "family" have been there because I chose to have them there. It's the same way for food. I do not eat things which are acquired tastes. I was forced to eat things - no matter what - growing up. I will eat hotdogs providing they have the right toppings (brown mustard, celery salt, onion, sour cream, tomato, but never ketchup, etc.) but I will not eat pork chops because of the gristle|fat because I was forced to growing up - despite the fact they are the same animal. Back then, it was chop it (gristle|fat) all up, cram it in, and wash it down. If I'm put in a situation (even social|work) where that's all which is available, I will simply ignore it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 10:06:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5G626q000795 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:06:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 663C01E6016F; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:01:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F25831E60177 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:01:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A335FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:54:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14458184 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:54:33 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5FsXH13932 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:54:33 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:54:27 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7769B@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: octopuses get erections Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:54:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Lynne Weber [mailto:lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] >Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 8:50 AM >--- "Bethany K. Dumas" > > >As of Nov. 21, 2002, I am a life-vowed celibate. >> >> Bethany > >Hmm. Coming up on the first anniversary. How does >one celebrate remaining celibate? Go out, get drunk, and get lucky? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 10:07:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5G726q000800 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:07:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EFC9F1E60177; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:02:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91D501E6016F for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:02:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A33618@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:55:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14458238 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:55:33 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5FtWH14123 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:55:32 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:55:27 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7769C@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Survivor Q Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:55:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] >Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 5:21 PM >Phil Paxton wrote: > >> When Rupert played for the other team, did he spend time at >their campsite? > >Yes. He helped them move their shelter away from the water. Then this information overcomes the issue he doesn't know where their camp is (which was offered yesterday). From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 10:12:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5GC06q000849 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:12:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 79BB71E60178; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:07:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11BFE1E60177 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:07:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A33637@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:00:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14458538 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:00:31 -0500 Received: from imo-r01.mx.aol.com (imo-r01.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.97]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5G0UH14927 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:00:31 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.31.40288a51 (17079) for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:00:06 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <31.40288a51.2cda7886@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:00:06 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] reading and remembering To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/5/2003 9:43:19 AM Central Standard Time, PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM writes: << If I wasn't there, I was the last one they searched for. I was either in one of the book stores, shopping or sitting in front of one, reading. >> Yep, I know how that is. When I was a kid, my parents wanted to go to a new grocery store; I was very unhappy it didn't have a magazine section. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Trying to make sense of the latest Big O From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 10:12:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5GCo6q000854 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:12:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BE6C21E6017B; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:08:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5275B1E60177 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:08:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A33635@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:01:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14458643 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:01:21 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5G1LH15225 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:01:21 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 6F73E2B904; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:01:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5505D2B901 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:01:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:01:20 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: headphones In-Reply-To: <20031105044648.GB70699@words-l.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > What's your address? I will send you my high-tech noise-cancelling > headphones. zowee! I just think it's a wonderful world, with diegetic mutant hogs throwing high-tech apparatus across the continent to help out noise-assaulted old ladies. 43 Ridge Road Fairfax, CA 94930 Hot Damn. Many T's IA What can I send back? Something regional? A huge box of Rice-a-Roni maybe? Wine? I will take suggestions from all. xoxoxoxo Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 10:13:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5GDA6q000858 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:13:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 826051E6016F; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:08:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27C2F1E6016E for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:08:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3363A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:01:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14458695 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:01:41 -0500 Received: from web20515.mail.yahoo.com (web20515.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.232.184]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA5G1fH15334 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:01:41 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20515.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 08:01:40 PST Message-ID: <20031105160140.5474.qmail@web20515.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:01:40 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: headphones To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FA8D413.24578.2EB5F57C@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Tony Harminc wrote: > Are these just the ordinary expanding foam plugs > sold at safety > supply places and the like, or something fancier? Or there are just el cheapos from any store that are used in efforts to neutralize snoring partners. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 10:14:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5GE96q000863 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:14:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 526881E60177; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:09:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00DF01E6016E for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:09:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A33645@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:02:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14458810 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:02:40 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law9-oe64.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5G2eH15603 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:02:40 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:02:34 -0800 Received: from 199.174.2.66 by law9-oe64.law9.hotmail.com with DAV; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 16:02:34 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [199.174.2.66] X-Originating-Email: [amyb_short@hotmail.com] From: "Amy Burns Short" To: Subject: Prime Meeber! Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:02:48 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2003 16:02:34.0514 (UTC) FILETIME=[39C5B720:01C3A3B6] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Happiest of Birthdays, John!!!!! AS From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 10:20:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5GKC6q000936 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:20:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 719671E6016F; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:15:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 192031E60166 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:15:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A33693@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:08:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14459425 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:08:43 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5G8hH17460 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:08:43 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D2279@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:08:42 -0500 Message-Id: <200311051608.hA5G8hH17460@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:08:43 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: why I read the Canadian news To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:39:02 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Paul Barfoot wrote: >> I have heard nothing in the US news about this. So, >> I checked the DoD website and found: >> >> http://www.defendamerica.mil/articles/sss092203.html >> >> >> >> Now I know that this is not reinstating the draft, >> but it is clearly preparation for it. I would think >> this information would be of interest to at least >> some US citizens. > >Indeed, it would and should be. So where are the New >York Times, the Washington Post and the LA Times? >> >> >> BrP Shouldn't this be under the subject heading, "Real Survivor News"? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 10:22:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5GMD6q000996 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:22:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A5D091E6016F; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:17:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63F5E1E6016E for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:17:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3369B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:10:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14459537 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:10:44 -0500 Received: from web20506.mail.yahoo.com (web20506.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA5GAiH17829 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:10:44 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 08:10:43 PST Message-ID: <20031105161043.26781.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:10:43 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: reading and remembering To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7769A@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Phil Paxton wrote: > Not in this case. The older of my two sisters is > two years younger and my > mom has said I didn't read to her (as an audience). > I've known for years > why and it continues until this day. I can't stand > her and never have. > Growing up, the people in my family were there > because I was forced to have > them there. After I left the house, the people in > my "family" have been > there because I chose to have them there. It's the > same way for food. I do > not eat things which are acquired tastes. I was > forced to eat things - no > matter what - growing up. I will eat hotdogs > providing they have the right > toppings (brown mustard, celery salt, onion, sour > cream, tomato, but never > ketchup, etc.) but I will not eat pork chops because > of the gristle|fat > because I was forced to growing up - despite the > fact they are the same > animal. Back then, it was chop it (gristle|fat) all > up, cram it in, and > wash it down. If I'm put in a situation (even > social|work) where that's all > which is available, I will simply ignore it. This is as revealing a passage as I've seen in a long time. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 10:22:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5GMF6q000999 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:22:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CD4341E6016F; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:17:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70AA51E60166 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:17:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D228D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:10:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14459542 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:10:46 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5GAjH17849 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:10:45 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D2285@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:10:45 -0500 Message-Id: <200311051610.hA5GAjH17849@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:10:45 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: out o town To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm off to Chicago for that Honors snobbash I was talking about a bit ago. Back Monday. Don't go and be interesting behind my back, now, y'all! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 10:26:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5GQS6q001035 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:26:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1F7071E6016F; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:22:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE4641E6016E for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:22:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D228D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:14:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14460103 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:14:59 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5GEwH19336 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:14:58 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id C3C5E2B8F7; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:14:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B99992B8E6 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:14:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:14:57 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: reading and remembering In-Reply-To: <20031105161043.26781.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > > This is as revealing a passage as I've seen in a long > time. Lynne, just wondering . . . do you write in your books? OR, another take: is this a florid way of saying TMI? Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 10:30:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5GUb6q001056 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:30:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6FC7D1E6016E; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:26:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31BD21E60166 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:26:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3374E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:19:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14461253 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:18:49 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5GInH21085 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:18:49 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:18:40 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776A0@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: reading and remembering Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:18:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Lynne Weber [mailto:lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] >Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 11:11 AM >This is as revealing a passage as I've seen in a long >time. There are a few things you don't know. I can assure you no one living with me is suffering verbal, emotional, or physical abuse - no, I don't live alone - and yes, they are fully aware of my upbringing. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 10:34:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5GYL6q001135 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:34:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 285231E6013A; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:29:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9E8F1E6011C for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:29:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3378D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:22:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14461606 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:22:52 -0500 Received: from web20516.mail.yahoo.com (web20516.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.232.185]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA5GMqH21952 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:22:52 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20516.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 08:22:51 PST Message-ID: <20031105162251.35611.qmail@web20516.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:22:51 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: headphones To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Ann Borkin wrote: > Many T's IA. I read this as... > > What can I send back? Something regional? A huge > box of Rice-a-Roni > maybe? Wine? > > I will take suggestions from all. A ceramic ashtray (with matching lava lamp) depicting Alcatraz in its glory days. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 10:43:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5Ghx6q001237 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:43:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 185621E6013F; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:39:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EB071E6011C for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:39:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D2368@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:32:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14463009 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:32:29 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA5GWSH25440 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:32:29 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 11:32:28 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 11:32:03 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: check your cherios Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hA5Ghx6q001237 Take a look at this story about a man who noticed his cereal running low. BrP http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/news/2586627/detail.html From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 10:50:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5GoG6q001327 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:50:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 703121E60143; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:45:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD0091E6013F for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:45:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A33847@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:38:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14463659 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:38:42 -0500 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA5GcfH26974 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:38:41 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 08:38:39 PST Message-ID: <20031105163839.35758.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:38:39 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: reading and remembering To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Ann Borkin wrote: > OR, another take: is this a florid way of saying > TMI? Florid. Yuck. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 10:51:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5Gpm6q001351 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:51:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 02A081E60143; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:47:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B5FF1E6013A for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:47:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3386A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:40:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14464005 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:40:18 -0500 Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5GeIH27677 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:40:18 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HNW007EX0YZO5@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 11:40:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.80] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 05 Nov 2003 11:36:26 -0500 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 11:36:26 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Survivor Q To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <46661846a26e.46a26e466618@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >> When Rupert played for the other team, did he spend time at > >their campsite? > > > >Yes. He helped them move their shelter away from the water. > > Then this information overcomes the issue he doesn't know where > their camp > is (which was offered yesterday). I don't think they've been blindfolded when they are boated over to loot either. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 10:52:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5GqL6q001360 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:52:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 77F5E1E6013A; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:47:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C84D81E6013F for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:47:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A33853@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:40:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14464073 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:40:52 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5GepH27913 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:40:51 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA5GeneO016146 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:40:49 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA5Gema2016136 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:40:49 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031105083432.00a652f0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 08:37:27 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Prime Meeber! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:02 AM 11/5/2003 -0600, you wrote: >Happiest of Birthdays, John!!!!! > >AS Have a great one, PM. Guy Fawkes' Day as well. Just coincidence. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 10:52:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5Gqv6q001375 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:52:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4ABEB1E6013F; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:48:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94ED71E6013A for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:48:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A33867@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:41:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14464125 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:41:27 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5GfQH28073 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:41:27 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id D94D42B8F4; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:41:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC04C2B8F2 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:41:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:41:25 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: reading and remembering In-Reply-To: <20031105163839.35758.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Ann Borkin wrote: > > OR, another take: is this a florid way of saying > > TMI? > > Florid. Yuck. I vote against you and for Phil. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 10:56:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5Gup6q001428 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:56:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A27C01E60147; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:52:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E63101E6013A for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:52:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A33888@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:45:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14464446 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:45:21 -0500 Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.75]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5GjKH29031 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:45:20 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HNW007HB17JLL@mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 11:45:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.80] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 05 Nov 2003 11:41:31 -0500 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 11:41:31 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Survivor Q To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <46eb6646ab86.46ab8646eb66@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > So glad y'all got over that rough patch. Excellent > report, in all departments. Gold stars for Laszlo, > Milkbone for Marie. Ack, not the bone. I think I'll chew on a Greenie instead. Marie lactophobe From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 10:56:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5Guw6q001437 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:56:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E361C1E60166; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:52:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31F271E6013A for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:52:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A33895@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:45:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14464454 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:45:28 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5GjRH29042 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:45:27 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA5GjPeO022011 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:45:25 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA5GjOa2021988 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:45:25 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031105084100.00a64b30@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 08:42:05 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Laszlo In-Reply-To: <4578a145cb55.45cb554578a1@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:59 AM 11/5/2003 -0500, you wrote: >From: Lynne Weber > > Do you have a proud mama's report on Laszlo's > > progress? > >Well, I don't remember what I posted to the list most recently. But he's >doing really well, seems to be over his anxiety attacks. The plastic (v. >wire) crate seems to have done the trick. Oh, good, Marie. I hated to think of him traumatized forever in that crate and you being unhappy. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 11:00:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5H046q001471 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:00:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 01CB11E6013A; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:55:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BB301E6013F for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:55:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A338AE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:48:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14464847 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:48:34 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5GmXH29797 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:48:33 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA5GmVeO025087 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:48:31 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA5GmUa2025053; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:48:30 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031105084306.00a70020@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 08:45:10 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: reading and remembering In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:50 AM 11/5/2003 -0500, Marty Rosen wrote: >>From: Rita Chapman >>> Well, he was crediting his ability to read at age 2 with >>having memories. I don't know how you quantify or qualify >>memory. How can two 1-year-olds have a different number of >>memories? Wouldn't they be equal in number if their lives >>are equal in length? Perhaps he's saying they're unequal in >>quality -- one infant listens to Mozart and goes to Gymboree >>while the other is put in front of Fox TV all day. > >I think this is the point. The act of reading as reading can't be isolated >from the social context in which it occurs. A child who begins reading >early has likely been exposed to a more nurturing intellectual environment >and a much richer set of stimuli than one who hasn't (that is, assuming that >we can agree that there is a big difference between, say, sitting on mom's >lap and being read to and sitting in a high chair staring at a television). > >The "read-to" child probably has heard the same texts repeated over and >over, has heard them performed with varied inflections and interpretations, >has asked questions about the texts, and had a series of more or less >intentional experiences that may cultivate memory in ways that random tv >watching doesn't duplicate. The same child in a pre-literate culture would >also have heard stories performed in the same way - the only missing >ingredient being the book - and would have had the same experience. Both of my children were read to and raised in the same environment. One was an early reader and one had to be held back in first grade because he couldn't read. They both remember things differently and I wonder who raised them. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 11:00:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5H0J6q001476 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:00:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E573F1E60147; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:55:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED3F1E6013A for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:55:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A338CE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:48:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14464895 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:48:49 -0500 Received: from web20512.mail.yahoo.com (web20512.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA5GmmH29855 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:48:48 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20512.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 08:48:46 PST Message-ID: <20031105164846.65254.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:48:46 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: reading and remembering To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Ann Borkin wrote: > I vote against you and for Phil. I am taking this news stoically. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 11:02:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5H2e6q001508 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:02:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8A74F1E6013F; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:58:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C71841E6013A for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:58:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A338D6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:51:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14465185 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:51:11 -0500 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5GpAH30396 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:51:10 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.10d.2bfcfb85 (4529) for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:50:40 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <10d.2bfcfb85.2cda8460@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:50:40 EST Subject: Re: octopuses get erections To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/5/2003 7:03:25 AM, dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes: >As of Nov. 21, 2002, I am a life-vowed celibate. > >Bethany > Any reason? Shaking head in disbelief. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 11:03:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5H3t6q001519 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:03:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 829541E60166; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:59:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAF451E60147 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:59:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A338EF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:52:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14465399 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:52:25 -0500 Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5GqPH30815 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:52:25 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HNW00EY81IFUY@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 11:51:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.80] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 05 Nov 2003 11:47:44 -0500 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 11:47:44 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Laszlo To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <46ddf7469c4d.469c4d46ddf7@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Oh, good, Marie. I hated to think of him traumatized forever in > that crate > and you being unhappy. Nope, we're happy. He walks right in to the crate now. Usually preceded by a treat of some sort. And he hasn't trashed any more rooms (I'm not even sure I reported the extent of that here). Later on we'll slowly ease him into being left out of the crate but not for a while yet. There's actually a vizsla discussion list (VTalk) -- I guess there's a list for everything these days. They generate as much or more mail than Words-L! Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 11:07:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5H7j6q001552 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:07:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 454D81E60143; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:03:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B5701E6013F for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:03:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3393B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:56:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14465957 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:56:15 -0500 Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5GuEH32070 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:56:14 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HNW00E691PLRE@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 11:56:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.80] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 05 Nov 2003 11:51:49 -0500 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 11:51:49 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: reading and remembering To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <46d27846e44a.46e44a46d278@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Both of my children were read to and raised in the same > environment. One > was an early reader and one had to be held back in first grade > because he > couldn't read. They both remember things differently and I wonder who > raised them. I was the earliest reader in my house, actually beating my older brother to it -- but that's not surprising in hindsight. My mom (ever the teacher) created games for us to motivate us to read -- I still have a poster she made me covered with construction paper "book worms" with the names of different books I read as a youngun. However, my sister remembers things from when she was a baby, and I would pretty much corroborate the theory that I only remember things from about the time that I began to read. Earlier memories are just blurs of color or scent. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 11:08:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5H8k6q001557 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:08:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 51DF21E60143; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:04:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 624931E6013F for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:04:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A33934@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:57:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14466067 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:57:16 -0500 Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.74]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5GvFH32371 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:57:15 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HNW009H51RDR6@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 11:57:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.80] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 05 Nov 2003 11:53:24 -0500 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 11:53:24 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: octopuses get erections To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <4a6ebb4ac71d.4ac71d4a6ebb@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm still dismayed at being informed by a high school student in Spain that octopi are ("and your mother's a biology teacher -- shame on you") -- and now ya'll throw this erection thing at me! Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 11:20:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5HK56q001688 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:20:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3C1E71E60147; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:15:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7806B1E6013C for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:15:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A339A5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 12:08:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14467119 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 12:08:35 -0500 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5H8YH02211 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 12:08:34 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.99.3f35e97f (4529) for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 12:08:15 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <99.3f35e97f.2cda887f@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 12:08:15 EST Subject: Re: reading and remembering To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/5/2003 10:11:06 AM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: >I was >> forced to eat things - no >> matter what - growing up. I know what you mean; I hated it too, although the meals were very good and tasty, but I hated all the bread I was forced to eat. To this day I usually eat only once a day; that's why I have so much trouble gaining weight. I have no idea what "hungry" feels like because my stomach has shrunk so much over the years. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 11:20:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5HK66q001689 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:20:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 78B621E6013C; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:15:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B53E01E60143 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:15:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A339B4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 12:08:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14467123 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 12:08:35 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5H8YH02212 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 12:08:34 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA5H8W2f018734 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:08:32 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA5H8VJC018716; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:08:31 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031105090413.00a766a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 09:05:11 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: reading and remembering In-Reply-To: <20031105164846.65254.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:48 AM 11/5/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Ann Borkin wrote: > > I vote against you and for Phil. > >I am taking this news stoically. Not a problem. You will win the immunity challenge. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 11:22:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5HMt6q001740 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:22:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BA97E1E6016E; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:18:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DABB51E6013C for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:18:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D252B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 12:11:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14467664 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 12:11:25 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5HBNH03501 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 12:11:23 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA5HBL2f023959 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:11:21 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA5HBKJC023921 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:11:21 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031105090736.00a69c60@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 09:08:01 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: check your cherios In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Our attic space is very small but that is creepy. Betty At 11:32 AM 11/5/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Take a look at this story about a man who noticed his cereal running low. > >BrP > > >http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/news/2586627/detail.html From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 11:59:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5HxR6q002195 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:59:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 345E81E60145; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:55:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EF551E60141 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:55:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D264D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 12:47:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14470839 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 12:47:56 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5Hln511531 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 12:47:50 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.74.122]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HNW3TR02.FL0 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:41:51 -0700 Message-ID: <3FA9381F.AC026E91@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 10:49:20 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Prime Meeber! References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031105083432.00a652f0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > Have a great one, PM. Guy Fawkes' Day as well. Just coincidence. Coincidence, hell. I hung around until I could get in on the pennies and the parties. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 12:32:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5IW36q002523 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 12:32:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8D7E01E60148; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 12:27:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 048F01E60145 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 12:27:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A33C47@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:20:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14473977 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:20:30 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f32.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.32]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5IKT518174 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:20:29 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:20:23 -0800 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 18:20:23 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: why I read the Canadian news Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 13:20:23 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2003 18:20:23.0341 (UTC) FILETIME=[7A6095D0:01C3A3C9] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I think we should all sign up to serve on these boards (well, all except jmw and Alan). >From: Paul Barfoot >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: why I read the Canadian news >Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:36:38 -0500 > >An article in The Star this morning says: > >WASHINGTON—A call from the U.S. Defence Department for volunteers to sit on >local draft boards has sparked debate here about whether a nationwide >military draft could ultimately be needed to complete Washington's Iraq >mission. > > >I have heard nothing in the US news about this. So, I checked the DoD >website and found: > >http://www.defendamerica.mil/articles/sss092203.html > > >Now I know that this is not reinstating the draft, but it is clearly >preparation for it. I would think this information would be of interest to >at least some US citizens. > > >BrP > > _________________________________________________________________ Compare high-speed Internet plans, starting at $26.95. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 12:49:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5In36q002683 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 12:49:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 34B6C1E60183; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 12:44:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78B6D1E6017E for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 12:44:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A33D5D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:37:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14476120 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:37:03 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5Ib1522370 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:37:02 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <200311051836540130075qf4e>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:36:54 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105080226.05cebf20@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 10:36:37 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: headphones In-Reply-To: <3FA8D413.24578.2EB5F57C@localhost> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104201100.05ab2378@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tony Harminc writes, >Hmmm... Are the noise-cancelling ones very expensive? More so -- ca. $40 at the bottom end, going up from there. >Do they not work a *lot* better as theory suggests they should? Not in my experience. Music might be a little easier to hear with noise-cancelling, but the earplugs block as much or more noise. Also IME, noise-cancellers fatigue my hearing after a while -- even though you can't hear the inverted noise, the sound pressure is still there, or something. Upshot: I've been taking earplugs instead of cancellers on airplanes -- they're more convenient, and work pretty much the same. For bus noise, I find plugs to be better than cancellers. >Are these just the ordinary expanding foam plugs sold at safety >supply places and the like, or something fancier? Nearly ordinary, e.g. the "E-A-Rsoft" type here: . *Not* the E-A-R Classic type -- I like those a lot less. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 12:50:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5Iob6q002692 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 12:50:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3764C1E60178; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 12:46:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFA871E6014A for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 12:46:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A33D8F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:39:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14476264 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:39:07 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA5Id6522864 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:39:06 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 13:39:05 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 13:38:37 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: why I read the Canadian news Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-874 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hA5Iob6q002692 I was thinking the same thing. I think there should be lots and lots of applications - including pets, including the long deceased, etc., etc. BrP >>> meeberphobia@HOTMAIL.COM 11/05/03 01:20PM >>> I think we should all sign up to serve on these boards (well, all except jmw and Alan). >From: Paul Barfoot >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: why I read the Canadian news >Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:36:38 -0500 > >An article in The Star this morning says: > >WASHINGTON—A call from the U.S. Defence Department for volunteers to sit on >local draft boards has sparked debate here about whether a nationwide >military draft could ultimately be needed to complete Washington's Iraq >mission. > > >I have heard nothing in the US news about this. So, I checked the DoD >website and found: > >http://www.defendamerica.mil/articles/sss092203.html > > >Now I know that this is not reinstating the draft, but it is clearly >preparation for it. I would think this information would be of interest to >at least some US citizens. > > >BrP > > _________________________________________________________________ Compare high-speed Internet plans, starting at $26.95. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 12:52:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5Iqd6q002713 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 12:52:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 89AAB1E60178; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 12:48:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E8461E6014A for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 12:48:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A33D99@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:41:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14476342 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:41:09 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5If8523401 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:41:08 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20031105184102013008kksee>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:41:02 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105080248.03b05900@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 10:40:45 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: headphones In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104201100.05ab2378@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin writes, >At least the ones I've tried. Maybe I'm afraid to jam them in far enough >- they keep falling out when I crane my neck. Maybe. I put them in by pulling the top of my ear up (usually by reaching around the back of my head with my other arm), and then wiggling them in a bit. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 12:58:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5IwC6q002752 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 12:58:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DAF201E6017E; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 12:53:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20BCC1E60178 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 12:53:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A33DC9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:46:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14476109 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:46:41 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5Iae522271 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:36:40 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA5IZx3W010266 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:36:01 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:36:37 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <10d.2bfcfb85.2cda8460@aol.com> Message-ID: References: <10d.2bfcfb85.2cda8460@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Theo Groothof wrote: >>As of Nov. 21, 2002, I am a life-vowed celibate. >> >>Bethany >> >Any reason? Shaking head in disbelief. Of course. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 13:02:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5J2M6q002805 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:02:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 925FA1E60178; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 12:57:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B81FA1E6017B for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 12:57:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A33E11@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:50:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14477665 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:50:44 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5Ioh527010 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:50:44 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id A31DC2B8F5; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:50:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 987FA2B8F4 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:50:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:50:40 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: headphones In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105080248.03b05900@mail.istori.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Peter Kaminski wrote: > > Maybe. I put them in by pulling the top of my ear up (usually by reaching > around the back of my head with my other arm), and then wiggling them in a bit. I just kind of practiced this at the reference desk and I forgot that someone might see me. Someone caught me at it but I just stared them down in a don't mess with ME, crazy lady manner. :) Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 13:03:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5J3k6q002826 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:03:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 847D51E6017E; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 12:59:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A53B31E6017B for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 12:59:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A33E18@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:52:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14476382 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:52:15 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5IgE523729 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:42:14 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA5IfZ3W010580 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:41:35 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:42:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <427917379.20031105072618@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <993555362.20031105071106@WordWrite.com> <427917379.20031105072618@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >> You may be right. But to most Episcopalians, there is simply no issue. > >"Most"? I think your POV is skewed, or all the news reports I've been >reading are wrong. You are beginning to sound like Natalie. I think you are paying too much attention to fringe speakers. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 13:08:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5J8I6q002917 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:08:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 734441E60183; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:03:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2ADE1E60178 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:03:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A33E4A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:56:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14478128 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:56:47 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5Iuk528493 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:56:47 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:56:40 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776AB@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: reading and remembering Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:56:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Theo Groothof [mailto:Dutchessg1@AOL.COM] >Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 12:08 PM >In a message dated 11/5/2003 10:11:06 AM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: > >>I was >>> forced to eat things - no >>> matter what - growing up. > >I know what you mean; I hated it too, although the meals were >very good and >tasty, but I hated all the bread I was forced to eat. >To this day I usually eat only once a day; that's why I have >so much trouble >gaining weight. I have no idea what "hungry" feels like >because my stomach has >shrunk so much over the years. >Theo It's not to say I don't like food - but only in certain ways. I like certain foods but only when they are prepared certain ways; e.g., I love raw carrots but do not like them cooked. I can't stand the nasty greens (spinach, asparagus, artichoke, etc.) but could live on salad and tomatoes. I don't eat much meat, but when I do, it's chicken or turkey and only the white meat (both grandfathers were farmers and with freedom to eat white meat, that's what I ate) I've put weight on since the accident, true to the prediction of my doctor in Chicago @ the clinic. Fortunately, she was wrong in one area - she said it would be 20-25 lbs/year. I've locked it at a total gain of seventy-five lbs and have been seeing her for five years. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 13:08:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5J8n6q002922 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:08:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 50E1D1E60178; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:04:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E2061E60184 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:04:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A33E58@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:57:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14476945 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:57:18 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5IlH525719 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:47:17 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA5Ikc3W018980 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:46:38 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:47:16 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, bonniev wrote: >Ah, yes. Celibacy. Sorry. I guess I was thinking of the Franciscan vows >of Poverty, Chastity, and Obedience. Which do you think would be harder >for you Bethany, the poverty or the obedience????????? Good question. I practice a bit of both. I think that they probably need to be practiced together. Which was harder for you? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 13:10:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5JAr6q002955 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:10:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 51F2F1E60178; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:06:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59A031E60183 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:06:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D2911@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:59:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14477585 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:59:22 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5InL526631 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:49:21 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA5Img3W014607 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:48:42 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:49:20 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7769B@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Message-ID: References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7769B@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: >>Hmm. Coming up on the first anniversary. How does >>one celebrate remaining celibate? > >Go out, get drunk, and get lucky? Wrong. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 13:31:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5JVI6q003175 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:31:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8330F1E6018B; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:26:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90D321E60184 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:26:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A33EDF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:19:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14479847 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:19:47 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5JJk500485 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:19:46 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003110519193901100sqoche>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:19:40 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105111833.03b0c988@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 11:19:21 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: why I read the Canadian news In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thanks, BrPaul. Blogged with an attribution to you: . Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 13:35:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5JZh6q003256 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:35:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EDDD11E60187; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:31:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 319331E60184 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:31:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A33F18@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:24:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14480241 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:24:12 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5JO7501521 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:24:11 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:24:01 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776AD@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: ? Sylvia Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:24:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Anyone got questions for Sylvia? This is a "Sylvia Wednesday" on Montel. Time's running out - only forty minutes before Dr. Phil is done (they're performing an intervention today). From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 13:47:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5Jl56q003410 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:47:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6B3D61E60187; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:42:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B90771E6014E for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:42:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A33F88@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:35:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14481502 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:35:31 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5JZU503999 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:35:31 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:35:24 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776B0@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: A 3rd Rail? Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:35:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Noticeable Dean's recent faux pas, I've held one question in check which has never been posed [publicly - to my knowledge] to any of but specifically to Sen. Joe Lieberman: "What do you think the effect will be on foreign policy and the reaction(s) of the countries in the Middle East when they deal with a Jewish US president?" I think this is like the 3rd rail (entitlements) as no one has asked it, but... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 13:48:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5Jm86q003417 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:48:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E42781E60187; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:43:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDDEA1E6014E for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:43:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A33F9E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:36:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14480368 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:36:36 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5JQY501875 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:26:34 -0500 Received: from ra.msstate.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.12.10/8.12.8/ra_1.2) with ESMTP; id hA5JQWaK004907 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:26:32 -0600 (CST) Received: (from maynor@localhost) by ra.msstate.edu (8.12.10/8.12.7/Submit) id hA5JQWci004906 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:26:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:26:32 -0600 (CST) From: Natalie Maynor Message-Id: <200311051926.hA5JQWci004906@ra.msstate.edu> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: YAY! Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU My Birkenstocks arrived today. I was beginning to worry since I had ordered them August 30. --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 14:08:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5K8r6q003771 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:08:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CF6801E6019C; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:04:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1091E1E6014E for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:04:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3404C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:57:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14483447 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:57:22 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA5JvL508914 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:57:21 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 14:57:20 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 14:56:54 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: reading and remembering Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hA5K8r6q003771 Motto of the Madras Library Association "To be literate is to possess the cow of plenty." BrP >>> 14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET 11/05/03 11:51AM >>> > Both of my children were read to and raised in the same > environment. One > was an early reader and one had to be held back in first grade > because he > couldn't read. They both remember things differently and I wonder who > raised them. I was the earliest reader in my house, actually beating my older brother to it -- but that's not surprising in hindsight. My mom (ever the teacher) created games for us to motivate us to read -- I still have a poster she made me covered with construction paper "book worms" with the names of different books I read as a youngun. However, my sister remembers things from when she was a baby, and I would pretty much corroborate the theory that I only remember things from about the time that I began to read. Earlier memories are just blurs of color or scent. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 14:09:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5K9x6q003783 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:09:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CFD651E60187; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:05:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D735C1E6014E for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:05:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A34055@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:58:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14483597 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:58:27 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA5JwQ509239 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:58:26 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 14:58:25 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 14:58:23 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: why I read the Canadian news Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hA5K9x6q003783 Wow I am so honoured BrP >>> kaminski@ISTORI.COM 11/05/03 02:19PM >>> Thanks, BrPaul. Blogged with an attribution to you: . Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 14:13:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5KDN6q003806 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:13:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 519C31E6019B; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:08:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DAB41E60187 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:08:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3407F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:01:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14482989 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:01:52 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5Jpp507814 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:51:52 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA5JpC3W005752 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:51:12 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:51:50 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Prime Meeber! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Amy Burns Short wrote: >Happiest of Birthdays, John!!!!! Yes! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 14:17:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5KHX6q003829 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:17:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6FA5B1E6014E; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:13:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 990DF1E6019B for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:13:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A340BD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:06:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14484321 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:06:01 -0500 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA5K5v511017 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:05:58 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 12:05:56 PST Message-ID: <20031105200556.84970.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 12:05:56 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: reading and remembering To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Paul Barfoot wrote: > Motto of the Madras Library Association "To be > literate is to possess the cow of plenty." BrP That really says it all. And it is "the" cow, but "a" cow of plenty. Wonder whose barn she graces these days? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 14:34:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5KYd6q004047 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:34:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E512E1E60187; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:30:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D98561E6014E for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:30:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A34132@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:23:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14485684 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:23:07 -0500 Received: from tharminc.blockade.com ([216.18.57.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5KN6514430 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:23:07 -0500 Received: from Spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31) ID MO000004; 5 Nov 03 15:23:05 -0500 Received: from spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31); 5 Nov 03 15:22:47 -0500 Received: from tharminc2 (127.0.0.1) by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31) with ESMTP ID MG000003; 5 Nov 03 15:22:40 -0500 From: "Tony Harminc" To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:22:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: A 3rd Rail? Message-ID: <3FA915C0.32431.CF7D30@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776B0@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 05, 2003 at 14:35, Phil Paxton wrote: > Noticeable Dean's recent faux pas, I've held one question in check which has > never been posed [publicly - to my knowledge] to any of but specifically to > Sen. Joe Lieberman: "What do you think the effect will be on foreign policy > and the reaction(s) of the countries in the Middle East when they deal with > a Jewish US president?" Doesn't seem like a big problem to me. (Either asking the question, or the honest answers to it.) Middle East leaders would probably have no problem with a Jewish president, beyond the expectation that he would support Israel pretty much unconditionally. But since all US public figures take essentially the same view, what's to complain about that isn't already there? Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 14:44:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5Ki56q004202 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:44:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EB84D1E60154; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:39:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F227F1E60156 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:39:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A341B3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:32:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14486642 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:32:33 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5KWW516884 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:32:33 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:32:25 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776B1@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: A 3rd Rail? Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:32:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Tony Harminc [mailto:tony@HARMINC.COM] >Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 3:23 PM >On Wednesday, November 05, 2003 at 14:35, Phil Paxton wrote: > >> Noticeable Dean's recent faux pas, I've held one question in >check which has >> never been posed [publicly - to my knowledge] to any of but >specifically to >> Sen. Joe Lieberman: "What do you think the effect will be >on foreign policy >> and the reaction(s) of the countries in the Middle East when >they deal with >> a Jewish US president?" > >Doesn't seem like a big problem to me. (Either asking the question, >or the honest answers to it.) Middle East leaders would probably have >no problem with a Jewish president, beyond the expectation that he >would support Israel pretty much unconditionally. But since all US >public figures take essentially the same view, what's to complain >about that isn't already there? You don't think the Arabic/Muslim countries would have a problem dealing with the US under those conditions? Personally, I'd be quite surprised. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 15:07:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5L7q6q004527 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:07:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 194B41E60158; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:03:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8AAD1E601AA for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:03:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A34280@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:56:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14488767 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:56:19 -0500 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.99]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5KuI521816 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:56:18 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_dev1.2.) id c.39.401a2dbe (3948) for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:55:55 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <39.401a2dbe.2cdabdda@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:55:54 EST Subject: Re: reading and remembering To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/5/2003 12:57:00 PM, PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM writes: >I've locked it at a total gain of seventy-five > >lbs and have been seeing her for five years. Last time I saw her I'd LOST :-{ Can't see you gaining on salads, is it the dressing perhaps? I love cooked veggies, but as I said b4. I never feel *hungry*. Oh well, honi soit qui mal y pense! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 15:09:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5L916q004557 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:09:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B79A01E60158; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:04:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 835891E60187 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:04:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D2D62@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:57:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14488922 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:57:29 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA5KvR522045 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:57:27 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 15:57:26 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 15:57:09 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: why I read the Canadian news Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hA5L916q004557 Pete Check blogdex http://blogdex.net/track.asp?id=7397668 Paul >>> kaminski@ISTORI.COM 11/05/03 02:19PM >>> Thanks, BrPaul. Blogged with an attribution to you: . Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 15:17:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5LHu6q004687 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:17:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2616C1E601AA; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:13:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41CF81E60157 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:13:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A342E9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:06:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14489713 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:06:24 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5L6N523913 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:06:23 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003110521061401600386dve>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:06:14 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105130141.035dce90@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 13:05:56 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: why I read the Canadian news In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot writes, >http://blogdex.net/track.asp?id=7397668 Thanks. Probably driven in large part by a Salon article: http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2003/11/03/draft/ The BBC story had an interesting section: >Pentagon officials have denied any move to re-instate the draft, saying >that this would require a conflict of the magnitude of World War II. > >They say the Selective Service System (SSS), which runs the draft boards, >is merely launching a routine recruitment drive as 80% of places are now >vacant. > >Re-instatement would require action by the president and approval by >Congress, but correspondents say the return of the draft would be >disastrous for George W Bush during election year. Filtered through the experience of living through the events, reactions and pronouncements of the past couple years, of course. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 15:17:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5LHv6q004690 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:17:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 01B741E601AB; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:13:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C66B1E60157 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:13:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A34304@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:06:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14489717 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:06:25 -0500 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5L6O523914 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:06:24 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.30.496b9b42 (3948) for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:06:02 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <30.496b9b42.2cdac03a@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:06:02 EST Subject: Re: reading and remembering To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/5/2003 1:57:39 PM, Prbarfoo@SYR.EDU writes: >However, my sister remembers things from when she was a baby, and I would >pretty much corroborate the theory that I only remember things from about >the time that I began to read. Earlier memories are just blurs of color >or scent. > My memory is earlier than when I could read. Strangely enough though, I don't remember the time I lost the tip of one finger in my mother's clothes wringer, although other events that occurred around the same time, I DO remember. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 15:19:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5LJU6q004704 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:19:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E520F1E601AB; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:15:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3D281E60157 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:15:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A34307@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:07:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14489759 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:07:58 -0500 Received: from imo-r01.mx.aol.com (imo-r01.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.97]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5L7v524093 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:07:57 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.e.37d8de92 (3948) for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:07:45 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:07:45 EST Subject: Re: Prime Meeber! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/5/2003 2:02:31 PM, dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes: >Happiest of Birthdays, John!!!!! And from me too. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 15:21:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5LLb6q004726 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:21:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 310421E601AB; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:17:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09A0D1E60157 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:17:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A34319@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:10:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14489914 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:10:04 -0500 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA5LA3524594 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:10:04 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 13:10:01 PST Message-ID: <20031105211001.10579.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:10:01 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Prime Meeber! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Theo Groothof wrote: > In a message dated 11/5/2003 2:02:31 PM, > dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes: > > >Happiest of Birthdays, John!!!!! > > And from me too. > Theo HB, jmw. And remember, "Don't Weaken". __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 15:22:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5LMA6q004734 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:22:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 721691E601AB; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:17:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EADD1E601AE for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:17:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3431F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:10:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14489957 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:10:38 -0500 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5LAa524696 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:10:37 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.4f.367a10f4 (16484) for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:09:53 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <4f.367a10f4.2cdac121@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:09:53 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Prime Meeber! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Happy Birthday, JMW!!!!!!!!!!! Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Trying to make sense of the latest Big O From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 15:23:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5LNB6q004737 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:23:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 019E21E601AB; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:18:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA5E31E601AE for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:18:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3430F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:11:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14490037 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:11:27 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5LBM524891 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:11:24 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 8459D2B902; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:11:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 764A82B8FF for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:11:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:11:20 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: Trent Lott Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Maybe everybody but me has read this already: (Quote from article at http://www.thehill.com/news/102903/gopunity.aspx ) Asked whether he favored any policy changes in Iraq, Sen. Trent Lott (R-Miss.) responded: We need to have a different mix of troops, is the key. We may need to move some troops around. Lott suggested moving more troops from the relatively stable south closer to the region around Tikrit, where attacks on U.S. forces have been common. He said there was a need for more trained military police, adding that his comments were not a criticism. Honestly, its a little tougher than I thought it was going to be, Lott said. In a sign of frustration, he offered an unorthodox military solution: If we have to, we just mow the whole place down, see what happens. Youre dealing with insane suicide bombers who are killing our people, and we need to be very aggressive in taking them out. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 15:25:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5LPP6q004759 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:25:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 524841E601B5; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:21:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B0A61E601AE for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:20:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A34324@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:13:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14490195 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:13:52 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5LDl525517 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:13:51 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:13:41 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776B3@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: reading and remembering Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:13:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Theo Groothof [mailto:Dutchessg1@AOL.COM] >Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 3:56 PM >In a message dated 11/5/2003 12:57:00 PM, PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM writes: > >>I've locked it at a total gain of seventy-five >> >>lbs and have been seeing her for five years. > >Last time I saw her I'd LOST :-{ Can't see you gaining on >salads, is it the >dressing perhaps? I love cooked veggies, but as I said b4. I never feel >*hungry*. Oh well, honi soit qui mal y pense! >Theo I don't eat salads exclusively. I'm saying that I don't like *all* of the standard "greens" they say you are supposed to eat but there are some I do like. I also don't like stews or soups and if that's all there is, I'll drink the broth and leave the remainder alone. But I also don't drink coffee (I tried it once hot, once iced, both in my teens and never gone back to it - remember, nothing which is an acquired taste) and I've missed tea for almost two years. I realize there is access to tea which is sans caffeine, but I don't have access to it all the time. When I'm eating out, I want tea but don't want the caffeine, so I settle for water. The only reason I gave up the caffeine was when I first saw an osteopath almost two years ago (to see if there was another angle on my head pain). He wanted me to start on an "allergy" diet. He gave me a list of the "good" foods and 95% of them were foods I couldn't stand so I lived on water; white, whole grain rice; and peeled Peter Rabbit carrots (2 lb for lunch). He was surprised I was so dedicated for such a restrictive diet for three weeks - I said I'd stop eating before I'd eat most of the foods on the list. Everyone at work was pretty interested to see if I'd eat anything but carrots or rice - at least, while I was here. When I got to rebuild my food list, I found I had a lactose intolerance when I first put butter, sour cream, and cheese on a baked potato: my nasal passages were practically closed (within minutes) from the swelling. After a few days of eating yogurt, I got enough bacteria in me to take care of the intolerance. Since the allergy diet, I've not gone back to caffeine and been afraid because of what it might do to my head pain (let alone my circadian cycle). My circadian cycle gets screwed up on certain drugs as it is. If I take Finergan orally, I'm fine. Injected IM, and I'm awake for thirty-six hours. It's like methadone: orally, fine, but if it's attempted IM and it's missed, my body will metabolize it before it goes to work. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 15:31:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5LV66q004798 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:31:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CE06F1E601B8; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:26:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD2971E601B5 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:26:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A34352@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:19:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14490530 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:19:34 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5LJX526481 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:19:33 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-243.gwi.net [216.195.157.243]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA5LJVAr024150 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:19:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105161858.089ee580@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 16:19:34 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: headphones In-Reply-To: References: <20031105044648.GB70699@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > What's your address? I will send you my high-tech noise-cancelling > > headphones. > >zowee! I just think it's a wonderful world, with diegetic mutant hogs >throwing high-tech apparatus across the continent to help out >noise-assaulted old ladies. >Ann Wouldn't it be prudent for you to ask him why it is that he no longer wants them? bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 15:36:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5La56q004831 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:36:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6933E1E601B5; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:31:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BF591E601AE for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:31:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3433F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:24:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14490646 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:24:33 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5LOW527089 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:24:33 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D2E11@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:24:32 -0500 Message-Id: <200311052124.hA5LOW527089@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:24:32 -0500 From: Neal Traven Subject: real Maine To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Cc: Neal Traven Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I see that they got dissed by the new quarter. Any negative feedback in the state from Paul K et al.? neal From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 15:40:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5Le26q004866 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:40:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5B7A21E6015D; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:35:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B4491E601B5 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:35:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A34361@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:28:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14490848 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:28:20 -0500 Received: from web20513.mail.yahoo.com (web20513.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA5LSJ527709 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:28:19 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20513.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 13:28:17 PST Message-ID: <20031105212817.35257.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:28:17 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: headphones To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105161858.089ee580@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: > Wouldn't it be prudent for you to ask him why it is > that he no longer wants > them? Maybe he just wants to put a bug in Mme's ear. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 15:40:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5Lev6q004879 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:40:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A58F01E601B6; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:36:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A37D11E601B5 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:36:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A34367@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:29:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14490933 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:29:25 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f52.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5LTO527898 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:29:24 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:29:17 -0800 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 21:29:17 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: A 3rd Rail? Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 16:29:17 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2003 21:29:17.0894 (UTC) FILETIME=[DE4C1E60:01C3A3E3] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I don't think there's anything obscure about Tony's point. Since every US president has been willing to unconditionally accept anything Israel does, what difference does it make whether the president is a stupid southern baptist or a sanctimonious jew? Besides, nobody in his right mind thinks Lieberman has a chance in hell of becoming president. >From: Phil Paxton >You don't think the Arabic/Muslim countries would have a problem dealing >with the US under those conditions? Personally, I'd be quite surprised. _________________________________________________________________ >From Beethoven to the Rolling Stones, your favorite music is always playing on MSN Radio Plus. No ads, no talk. Trial month FREE! http://join.msn.com/?page=offers/premiumradio From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 15:41:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5Lfh6q004884 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:41:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4F2241E601B6; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:37:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 691A61E601B5 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:37:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A34382@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:30:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14491029 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:30:11 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5LUA528069 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:30:10 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-243.gwi.net [216.195.157.243]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA5LU7Ar026288 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:30:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105162706.00bcfaf0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 16:30:11 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >of Poverty, Chastity, and Obedience. Which do you think would be harder > >for you Bethany, the poverty or the obedience????????? > >Good question. I practice a bit of both. I think that they probably need >to be practiced together. You practice poverty? You appear to me to be the wealthiest wordsler and the most attached to your belongings. >Which was harder for you? >Bethany Obedience was harder. I didn't really know poverty those eight years when I was in the convent. Food, shelter, and clothing was provided for me. I knew poverty once I left the convent and had to earn a living. Even then, I was never what I would consider truly poor. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 15:44:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5Li86q004919 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:44:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 130451E601B6; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:39:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33AE41E6015D for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:39:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D2E90@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:32:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14491672 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:32:34 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5LWX528774 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:32:33 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-243.gwi.net [216.195.157.243]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA5LWVAr026773 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:32:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105163205.00bbd0c8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 16:32:34 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: YAY! In-Reply-To: <200311051926.hA5JQWci004906@ra.msstate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >My Birkenstocks arrived today. I was beginning to worry since I had >ordered them August 30. --Natalie Maynor We ordered, and paid for, a new water heater on August 15 and still don't have it. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 15:44:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5Lic6q004937 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:44:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DDAC91E601B5; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:40:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B5C51E601AE for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:40:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D2E7E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:33:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14491854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:33:05 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5LX4528977 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:33:04 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:32:58 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776B6@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: A 3rd Rail? Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:32:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Marty Rosen [mailto:meeberphobia@HOTMAIL.COM] >Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 4:29 PM >I don't think there's anything obscure about Tony's point. >Since every US >president has been willing to unconditionally accept anything >Israel does, >what difference does it make whether the president is a stupid southern >baptist or a sanctimonious jew? Besides, nobody in his right >mind thinks >Lieberman has a chance in hell of becoming president. > >>From: Phil Paxton >>You don't think the Arabic/Muslim countries would have a >problem dealing >>with the US under those conditions? Personally, I'd be quite >surprised. But a US President wouldn't see issues developing as friction between Arabs & Jews? Then again, most people have traditionally thought "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 15:46:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5LkS6q004961 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:46:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 850BF1E601B5; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:42:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A97AE1E6015D for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:42:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A343F3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:34:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14492183 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:34:56 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5LYt529449 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:34:56 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:34:50 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776B7@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: YAY! Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:34:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: bonniev [mailto:bonniev@GWI.NET] >Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 4:33 PM >>My Birkenstocks arrived today. I was beginning to worry since I had >>ordered them August 30. --Natalie Maynor > >We ordered, and paid for, a new water heater on August 15 and >still don't >have it. If someone's gone that long, they've undoubtedly purchased what they paid for. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 15:47:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5Llg6q004967 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:47:42 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8D2221E601AE; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:43:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D07061E6015D for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:43:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A34403@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:36:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14492222 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:36:10 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f58.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.58]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5La7529597 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:36:08 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:36:01 -0800 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 21:36:01 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Trent Lott Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 16:36:01 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2003 21:36:01.0745 (UTC) FILETIME=[CF02E410:01C3A3E4] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hmm. Now Lott is thinking like a true Roman senator. >From: Ann Borkin >solution: If we have to, we just mow the whole place down, see what >happens. Youre dealing with insane suicide bombers who are killing our >people, and we need to be very aggressive in taking them out. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Messenger with backgrounds, emoticons and more. http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/cdp_customize From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 15:50:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5Loo6q005048 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:50:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D895B1E601B8; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:46:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CBB51E6015D for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:46:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A34426@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:39:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14492548 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:39:18 -0500 Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5LdH530190 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:39:17 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HNW00LLLETFZQ@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 16:39:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.79] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 05 Nov 2003 16:35:02 -0500 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 16:35:02 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: reading and remembering To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <4895f248da24.48da244895f2@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > water; white, whole grain rice; and peeled Peter Rabbit carrots (2 > lb for > lunch). Did you turn orange? Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 15:52:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5Lqk6q005071 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:52:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A46801E601B6; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:48:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 051F21E6015D for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:48:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3442F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:41:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14492754 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:41:15 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5LfE530567 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:41:14 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 7A86F2B8F5; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:41:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B1DF2B8EF for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:41:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:41:13 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: headphones In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105161858.089ee580@pop.gwi.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, bonniev wrote: > Wouldn't it be prudent for you to ask him why it is that he no longer wants > them? Who said he doesn't want them? Maybe I want them more! Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 15:55:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5LtI6q005099 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:55:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 24AFB1E601B5; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:50:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6409E1E6015D for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:50:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A34451@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:43:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14492941 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:43:46 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f47.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.47]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5Lhj531028 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:43:45 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:43:38 -0800 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 21:43:38 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: A 3rd Rail? Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 16:43:38 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2003 21:43:38.0608 (UTC) FILETIME=[DF52A700:01C3A3E5] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sorry, I don't quite understand. U.S. foreign policy has consistently supported Israel, even to the point of making ludicrous vetoes of Security Council resolutions that would censure Israel for a host of illegal and immoral acts. The stasis in the middle east, such as it is, has been maintained because at the same time the U.S. also furnishes financial and military largess to shore up brutally undemocratic Arab dictatorships--so long as they comply with U.S. interests. The question isn't whether Lieberman can deal with the Arab world, it's whether any presidential candidate is willing to say that the US should cease supplying weapons and aid to Israel unless and until Israel abandons its illegal encroachments into Palestine. >From: Phil Paxton >But a US President wouldn't see issues developing as friction between Arabs >& Jews? > >Then again, most people have traditionally thought "the enemy of my enemy >is >my friend." _________________________________________________________________ Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $26.95. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 15:56:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5LuN6q005106 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:56:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7CDE91E601B5; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:51:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC3811E6015D for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:51:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3445B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:44:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14493042 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:44:51 -0500 Received: from web20509.mail.yahoo.com (web20509.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.144]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA5Lio531271 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:44:50 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20509.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 13:44:49 PST Message-ID: <20031105214449.20979.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:44:49 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: YAY! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776B7@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Phil Paxton wrote: > If someone's gone that long, they've undoubtedly > purchased what they paid > for. I'm missing something here. What is it? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 15:57:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5LvG6q005117 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:57:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8940C1E601B5; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:52:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DED0A1E601AE for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:52:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A34444@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:45:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14493088 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:45:45 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5Lji531447 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:45:44 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-243.gwi.net [216.195.157.243]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA5LjfAt030055; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:45:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105163526.00b45e10@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 16:36:38 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: real Maine In-Reply-To: <200311052124.hA5LOW527089@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:24 PM 11/5/2003 -0500, Neal Traven wrote: >I see that they got dissed by the new quarter. > >Any negative feedback in the state from Paul K et al.? Yeah, well, the rest of us like it. And no, no word from him since his private note before AcadiaFest letting us know that he would not attend. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 16:16:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5MG96q005427 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:16:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CF8F31E601B5; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:11:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D7291E601AE for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:11:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D3022@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:04:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14495541 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:04:37 -0500 Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5M4b502519 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:04:37 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HNW00CHNFZHIA@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 17:04:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 05 Nov 2003 17:00:16 -0500 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 17:00:16 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: why I read the Canadian news To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <490055493780.493780490055@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Every time I click on one of Pete's links (and I do quite often) I have to edit the URL in Explorer -- need to remove the ">." from the end of the URL. Why? Is it that he should put a space between the > and the . ? Or is it my mail program not understanding that everything between a < and a > is a URL? It's a nitpickity thing, but it's consistent. Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Kaminski Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2003 2:19 pm Subject: Re: why I read the Canadian news > Thanks, BrPaul. Blogged with an attribution to you: > <." target="l">http://www.istori.com/log/archives/00000317.html>. > > Pete > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 16:18:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5MIj6q005530 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:18:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A5CDD1E601AE; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:14:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D30821E6015D for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:14:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3458A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:07:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14495842 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:07:04 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5M74503012 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:07:04 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:06:59 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776B8@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: YAY! Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:06:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Lynne Weber [mailto:lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] >Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 4:45 PM >--- Phil Paxton wrote: > >> If someone's gone that long, they've undoubtedly >> purchased what they paid >> for. > >I'm missing something here. What is it? If I'd paid for a water heater and it was due since Aug 15, I wouldn't be sitting still. But if someone is willing to sit still that long, I'd be more than happy to sell some of the stuff in my garage and go much longer (potentially never) without delivering it. Then again, most of the businesses in my area are so competitive they are practically willing to kill each other to make & deliver good deals. The population is growing so fast around me [that] companies are afraid a bad rep of any degree would linger like a dutch oven after a baked onion casserole. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 16:19:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5MJ56q005534 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:19:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6E22E1E601BA; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:14:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 220541E601AE for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:14:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A345A0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:07:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14495902 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:07:34 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5M7X503137 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:07:34 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.83]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031105220728.TKXU1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:07:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA974A0.5CCD6370@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 16:07:28 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections References: <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <993555362.20031105071106@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >Was? I don't think it's over. > > You may be right. But to most Episcopalians, there is simply no issue. I didn't follow it closely, but certainly the headlines made it sound like a . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 16:22:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5MM06q005566 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:22:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2FD8E1E601AE; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:17:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC7B51E60141 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:17:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A345B4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:10:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14494611 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:10:29 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5M0S501647 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:00:28 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA5Lxm3W018529 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:59:49 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:00:26 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105162706.00bcfaf0@pop.gwi.net> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105162706.00bcfaf0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, bonniev wrote: >You practice poverty? You appear to me to be the wealthiest wordsler and >the most attached to your belongings. Well, I don't know who is wealthiest. I have reason to believe that many wordslers make a lot more money than I do. And I don't know how to measure attachment. Almost all my belongings are in cardboard boxes in the dining-room. I own almost no furniture - no dining-room furniture all. What belongings are you thinking of? My 1990 minivan? My bookcases, most of which I built in the 1970s? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 16:22:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5MMV6q005572 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:22:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4AE161E6015D; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:18:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C891E60141 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:18:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A345C5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:10:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14496252 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:11:00 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5MAx503726 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:10:59 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.83]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031105221053.TMRH1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:10:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA9756D.919CC2D6@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 16:10:53 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor Q References: <4553534592c1.4592c1455353@optonline.net> <1737306156.20031105072649@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > And he fished for them. > > More importantly, he taught them how to use their spear. But I thought they were hungry again, lamenting their lack of fish. Btw, I'm confused by the Survivor arithmetic. Didn't somebody say that this one is to end in mid December? How can that be? There are far more people to be voted off than there are weeks. There would be too many even if they weren't about to add two of the outcasts to the number. Are they going to start doubling up on the voting out of people, voting out more than one per segment? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 16:22:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5MMx6q005578 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:22:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2FAB71E60141; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:18:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E279B1E600BF for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:18:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D3071@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:11:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14496277 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:11:28 -0500 Received: from web20503.mail.yahoo.com (web20503.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.138]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA5MBR503790 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:11:27 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 14:11:26 PST Message-ID: <20031105221126.15978.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:11:26 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: YAY! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776B8@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Phil Paxton wrote: > If I'd paid for a water heater and it was due since > Aug 15, I wouldn't be > sitting still. But if someone is willing to sit > still that long, I'd be > more than happy to sell some of the stuff in my > garage and go much longer > (potentially never) without delivering it. > > Then again, most of the businesses in my area are so > competitive they are > practically willing to kill each other to make & > deliver good deals. The > population is growing so fast around me [that] > companies are afraid a bad > rep of any degree would linger like a dutch oven > after a baked onion > casserole. Thank you kindly - I think.:-] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 16:23:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5MNs6q005591 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:23:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AF22A1E600BF; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:19:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73FBF1E6015D for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:19:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A345C7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:12:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14496430 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:12:22 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5MCM504137 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:12:22 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:12:17 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776B9@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: why I read the Canadian news Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:12:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Marie Ascher [mailto:14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET] >Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 5:00 PM >Every time I click on one of Pete's links (and I do quite >often) I have to edit the URL in Explorer -- need to remove >the ">." from the end of the URL. Why? Is it that he should >put a space between the > and the . ? Or is it my mail program >not understanding that everything between a < and a > is a >URL? It's a nitpickity thing, but it's consistent. It's your mail reader. I tend to use http://www.tinyurl.com to post a non-breaking as well as the full-length url. The danger of tinyurl for archiving & research is if|when tinyurl croaks, the information is gone. The advantage, however, is people don't have to rebuild their urls. Something I do (and is faster) is to start to "forward" the message. You'll have an editable window and can alter the url to your desired specs and click on it when you're ready. Then you can just cancel the unfinished message as desired. Store in the refrigerator overnight. Serves four. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 16:25:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5MPM6q005609 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:25:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CAC861E601B6; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:20:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A4B41E600BF for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:20:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A345E0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:13:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14496529 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:13:50 -0500 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA5MDo504346 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:13:50 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 14:13:50 PST Message-ID: <20031105221350.40659.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:13:50 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: octopuses get erections To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FA974A0.5CCD6370@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > I didn't follow it closely, but certainly the > headlines made it sound > like a . The media treated it as a big thing in Alabama, principally because of the conservative stance of most white southerners ("most"). __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 16:25:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5MPd6q005613 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:25:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 82D491E601BA; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:21:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42F441E601B6 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:21:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A345E2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:14:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14496556 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:14:07 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5ME7504409 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:14:07 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.83]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031105221353.TOJA1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:13:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA97621.52415D0@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 16:13:53 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: why I read the Canadian news References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: > Now I know that this is not reinstating the draft, but it is clearly preparation for it. I would think this information would be of interest to at least some US citizens. I read about it in the news sometime in the past week, but I can't remember where. Possibly it was a non-US source. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 16:26:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5MQT6q005630 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:26:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 244141E601B6; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:22:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFFDD1E6015D for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:22:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A345D7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:14:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14496581 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:14:53 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5MEq504482 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:14:52 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20031105221446014005r717e>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:14:46 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105141104.037d6a68@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 14:14:28 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: why I read the Canadian news In-Reply-To: <490055493780.493780490055@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher writes, >Or is it my mail program not understanding that everything between a < and >a > is a URL? Stupid mailer. But thanks for the feedback -- it's good to know. The reason to do it is so that the URL ends positively -- it allows punctuation afterwards. More pedantry than you want: http://www.istori.com/cgi-bin/wiki?AngleBracketURLs I cite two RFCs and three style guides. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 16:30:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5MUV6q005697 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:30:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2B63C1E601B6; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:26:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB88C1E601AE for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:26:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3460E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:18:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14496928 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:19:00 -0500 Received: from web20503.mail.yahoo.com (web20503.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.138]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA5MIx505282 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:18:59 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 14:18:59 PST Message-ID: <20031105221859.16962.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:18:59 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: octopuses get erections To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > And I don't know how to measure attachment. Almost > all my belongings are > in cardboard boxes in the dining-room. I own almost > no furniture - no > dining-room furniture all. What belongings are you > thinking of? My 1990 > minivan? My bookcases, most of which I built in the > 1970s? This reinforces the evidence that what you are attached to, is your money.:-] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 16:31:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5MVx6q005703 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:31:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 89F981E601AE; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:27:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AFF61E6015D for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:27:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A34617@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:20:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14497042 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:20:27 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5MKR505633 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:20:27 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-243.gwi.net [216.195.157.243]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA5MKPAr038076 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:20:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105171644.00bb43f8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 17:20:29 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: real Maine In-Reply-To: <200311052124.hA5LOW527089@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I see that they got dissed by the new quarter. I take it you have decided that Unreal Maine equals coastal Maine. Is that right? That was never clear to me. In fact, I very much doubt that is what Paul K. meant. However, I never did get a clear idea what he did mean. The separation that Mainers talk about is between southern Maine, which has all the jobs and money, and northern Maine which is rural and poor. Part of northern Maine (Lubec, Calais) is on the coast. >Any negative feedback in the state from Paul K et al.? >neal I doubt it. We got all that arguing out of our system when we fought about a lobster being on the official Maine car license plate. We now have a chickadee and a pine branch, two things that coastal and interior Maine share. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 16:33:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5MXC6q005708 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:33:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CEAA51E601AE; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:28:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EBBA1E6015D for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:28:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A34629@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:21:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14497110 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:21:40 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5MLe505873 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:21:40 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.83]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031105222135.TSRW1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:21:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA977EF.7413E41B@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 16:21:35 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: check your cherios References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: > > Take a look at this story about a man who noticed his cereal running low. > http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/news/2586627/detail.html That is definitely something I have thought about at times. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 16:33:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5MXl6q005715 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:33:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A6AE51E601B6; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:29:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EE261E600BF for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:29:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3462B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:22:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14497130 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:22:15 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5MMC505962 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:22:12 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.83]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031105222206.TSYO1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:22:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA9780E.C17937D9@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 16:22:06 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Prime Meeber! References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031105083432.00a652f0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU HB,JMW!! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 16:34:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5MYH6q005726 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:34:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8AD891E6015D; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:29:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CC881E600BF for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:29:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3462C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:22:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14497147 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:22:45 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5MMj506000 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:22:45 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-243.gwi.net [216.195.157.243]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA5MMiAr038512 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:22:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105172216.00bc8a28@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 17:22:47 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: headphones In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105161858.089ee580@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Wouldn't it be prudent for you to ask him why it is that he no longer wants > > them? > >Who said he doesn't want them? Maybe I want them more! >Ann Or maybe they are a piss of shit and that's why he is willing to part with them. Or maybe his life got quiet and he no longer needs them. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 16:38:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5Mcs6q005760 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:38:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CD5671E601B6; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:34:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CFA51E6015D for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:34:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D3101@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:27:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14496746 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:27:07 -0500 Received: from wasp.rahul.net (wasp.rahul.net [66.237.72.9]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5MH7504868 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:17:07 -0500 Received: by wasp.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 48) id 84FD936FDF; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:17:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from 65.218.127.126 (SquirrelMail authenticated user karen) by squirrelmail.rahul.net with HTTP; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:17:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1425.65.218.127.126.1068070621.squirrel@squirrelmail.rahul.net> In-Reply-To: <3FA9756D.919CC2D6@maynor.net> References: <4553534592c1.4592c1455353@optonline.net> <1737306156.20031105072649@WordWrite.com> <3FA9756D.919CC2D6@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:17:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Survivor Q From: karen@rahul.net To: "English Language Discussion Group" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.1-0.2.7.x MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Karen Kay wrote: > >> > And he fished for them. >> >> More importantly, he taught them how to use their spear. > > But I thought they were hungry again, lamenting their lack of fish. I thought they didn't fish because it was raining. (Which makes no sense to me, but I replayed the tape and that's really what they said.) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 16:41:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5MfM6q005793 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:41:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6FECF1E601B6; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:36:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ECAB1E6015D for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:36:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3463A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:29:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14497568 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:29:50 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5MTo506762 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:29:50 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.83]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031105222941.TWRO1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:29:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA979D5.F09EECE5@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 16:29:41 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A 3rd Rail? References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776B1@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > >would support Israel pretty much unconditionally. But since all US > >public figures take essentially the same view, what's to complain > >about that isn't already there? > > You don't think the Arabic/Muslim countries would have a problem dealing > with the US under those conditions? Personally, I'd be quite surprised. See what Tony wrote above (>>). How would it be any different? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 16:43:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5MhR6q005829 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:43:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D44E11E601BA; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:39:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A69941E601B6 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:39:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D3104@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:31:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14497771 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:31:55 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5MVt507137 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:31:55 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:31:50 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776BA@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Survivor Q Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:31:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] >Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 5:11 PM >Karen Kay wrote: > >> > And he fished for them. >> >> More importantly, he taught them how to use their spear. > >But I thought they were hungry again, lamenting their lack of fish. > >Btw, I'm confused by the Survivor arithmetic. Didn't somebody say that >this one is to end in mid December? How can that be? There are far >more people to be voted off than there are weeks. There would be too >many even if they weren't about to add two of the outcasts to the >number. Are they going to start doubling up on the voting out of >people, voting out more than one per segment? They will usually eat up a week or two by presenting us with "summary" shows where they'll play back "key" moments such as clashes between team members, contests, etc.; basically, how the game got to where it is as of that point. Looking back (lazily using sharpie & paper), here's what I think is the status quo - the appearance of the Outcasts, a team of size six, means there are five members on each of the other two teams - accounting for eighteen contestants. Kicking two off each of the five and adding two back will keep the count at ten survivors: Sept 11 16 18 15 25 14 Oct 2 13 9 12 16 11 23 10 30 10 - 2 + 2 Outcasts = 10 Nov 6 9 <- voting jury starts 13 8 20 7 27 6 Dec 4 5 11 4 18 3 * * immunity survivor selects their final challenger then voting by jury occurs. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 16:44:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5MiM6q005843 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:44:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7230A1E601BA; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:39:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BE401E601B6 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:39:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D3123@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:32:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14497801 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:32:50 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5MWo507253 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:32:50 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-243.gwi.net [216.195.157.243]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA5MWmAr040512 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:32:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105173221.00bc8840@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 17:32:49 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105162706.00bcfaf0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105162706.00bcfaf0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >What belongings are you thinking of? My 1990 >minivan? My bookcases, most of which I built in the 1970s? >Bethany Your artwork. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 16:45:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5MjQ6q005863 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:45:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F3F9B1E6015D; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:41:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C22AC1E60159 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:41:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A34654@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:33:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14497837 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:33:55 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5MXs507348 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:33:54 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.83]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031105223349.TYLS1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:33:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA97ACB.822B9B68@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 16:33:47 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: why I read the Canadian news References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105130141.035dce90@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > Probably driven in large part by a Salon article: > > http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2003/11/03/draft/ That looks like what I read earlier this week. I went there from something like MotherJones or Truthout, I think. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 16:47:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5Ml06q005888 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:47:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 678B11E601B6; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:42:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F641E6015D for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:42:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3465B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:35:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14497916 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:35:28 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5MZS507505 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:35:28 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-243.gwi.net [216.195.157.243]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA5MZQAr041233 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:35:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105173326.00bbadf8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 17:35:29 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: YAY! In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776B8@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >If I'd paid for a water heater and it was due since Aug 15, I wouldn't be >sitting still. We aren't sitting still. We have been complaining. Home Depot is jerking us around. >Then again, most of the businesses in my area are so competitive they are >practically willing to kill each other to make & deliver good deals. Businesses here are not that competitive. But Home Depot does claim to feel badly about it and have discounted the cost of installation by $160. Not that we have the water heater and not that we have it installed. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 16:49:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5Mn16q005930 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:49:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 60F331E6015D; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:44:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 313951E60159 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:44:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A34666@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:37:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14498022 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:37:29 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5MbT507693 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:37:29 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.83]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031105223723.UABD1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:37:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA97BA3.FDEFB100@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 16:37:23 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Trent Lott References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin wrote: > > Maybe everybody but me has read this already: I posted it here when it first came out. I remember prefacing it by saying that I hadn't mentioned The Evil One lately, mainly because of his lowish profile these days. The part I quoted on the list was just this juicy part, with the url given for the rest of it: > If we have to, we just mow the whole place down, see what > happens. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 16:49:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5Mnn6q005945 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:49:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3466B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:37:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14498061 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:37:55 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f88.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.88]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5Mbt507755 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:37:55 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:37:49 -0800 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 22:37:49 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: winter, whiskey, and canned goods Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 17:37:49 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2003 22:37:49.0715 (UTC) FILETIME=[71223630:01C3A3ED] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday we close on our draft evader's cottage in Meldrum Bay. Later in the month we'll be up there to do a little work, take inventory, measure some rooms, install ceiling fans, drop off some supplies, build a wood shed, and so forth. I have a question about storing canned goods. Can we safely leave cans of green beans and the like in an unheated cottage through the frozen depths of winter? Or is doing so a recipe for explosions and and a messy spring clean-up? Clearly we can't leave beer or wine, but what about whiskey? _________________________________________________________________ Send a QuickGreet with MSN Messenger http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/cdp_games From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 16:52:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5Mqd6q005965 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:52:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8B35E1E601B6; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:48:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D0801E6015D for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:48:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3468D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:41:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14498167 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:41:07 -0500 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA5Mf7508062 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:41:07 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 14:41:06 PST Message-ID: <20031105224106.32516.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:41:06 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: winter, whiskey, and canned goods To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Marty Rosen wrote: Clearly we can't leave beer or wine, but > what about whiskey? Yes, you can leave whiskey, gin, vodka, and other spirits of that ilk. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 16:52:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5Mqv6q005968 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:52:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9881C1E6015D; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:48:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6967F1E60159 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:48:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A34673@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:41:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14498187 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:41:25 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5MfP508101 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:41:25 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.83]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031105224120.UBXK1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:41:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA97C90.F09D566C@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 16:41:20 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: YAY! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105163205.00bbd0c8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > >My Birkenstocks arrived today. I was beginning to worry since I had > >ordered them August 30. --Natalie Maynor > > We ordered, and paid for, a new water heater on August 15 and still don't > have it. You should order it from Germany. I like these Birkenstock people. (I could've gotten the package faster by paying for airmail. I chose the free surface delivery, which they estimate as being 4-8 weeks.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 16:53:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5MrN6q005972 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:53:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DF6D01E601BA; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:48:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B03BF1E601B6 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:48:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A34674@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:41:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14498199 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:41:51 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5Mfp508124 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:41:51 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-243.gwi.net [216.195.157.243]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA5MfoAr042412 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:41:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105173703.00bc59e8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 17:41:53 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Survivor Q In-Reply-To: <3FA9756D.919CC2D6@maynor.net> References: <4553534592c1.4592c1455353@optonline.net> <1737306156.20031105072649@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Btw, I'm confused by the Survivor arithmetic. Didn't somebody say that >this one is to end in mid December? How can that be? There are far >more people to be voted off than there are weeks. There would be too >many even if they weren't about to add two of the outcasts to the >number. Are they going to start doubling up on the voting out of >people, voting out more than one per segment? > -- Natalie Well, let's see. When two people from the Outcasts are voted back on to the island tomorrow, we will have ten survivors. One will be voted off at the end of the show, leaving us with nine. On November 13 we will be down to eight; November 20 seven; November 27 six; December 4 five; December 11 four; leaving the Grand Finale Show on December 18 when they will have the traditional three hour show moving from four to two during the first two hours and announcing the Ultimate Survivor during the reunion show at the third hour. Works for me. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 16:56:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5MuU6q006026 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:56:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 161D01E60123; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:52:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA7671E60159 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:52:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D314E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:44:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14498540 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:44:59 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5Miw508822 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:44:58 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA5MivYS018052 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:44:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FA97D22.3090108@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 16:43:46 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections References: <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <993555362.20031105071106@WordWrite.com> <3FA974A0.5CCD6370@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >>>Was? I don't think it's over. >>> >>You may be right. But to most Episcopalians, there is simply no issue. >> > > I didn't follow it closely, but certainly the headlines made it sound > like a . Bethany is out of touch. It is a HUGE thing around here. I'm personally pissed off about the whole thing. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 16:59:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5MxD6q006041 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:59:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 585E61E6015D; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:54:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27B9B1E60159 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:54:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A346A1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:47:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14498721 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:47:41 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5Mlf509226 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:47:41 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.83]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031105224732.UEWH1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:47:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA97E04.EE7870B8@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 16:47:32 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A 3rd Rail? References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776B6@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > But a US President wouldn't see issues developing as friction between Arabs > & Jews? What does this mean? US Presidents for years now have supported Israeli terrorism, both financially and politically. I don't see how Lieberman would be different from Bush, for example, in that respect. I haven't noticed Dubya's going after Israel's hefty supply of WOMD. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 17:01:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5N1t6q006110 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:01:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DD3121E6015D; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:57:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA861E60159 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:57:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A346B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:50:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14498931 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:50:24 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5MoN509553 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:50:23 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.83]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031105225018.UGBR1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:50:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA97EAA.D5FC2A85@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 16:50:18 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A 3rd Rail? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen wrote: > The question isn't whether > Lieberman can deal with the Arab world, it's whether any presidential > candidate is willing to say that the US should cease supplying weapons and > aid to Israel unless and until Israel abandons its illegal encroachments > into Palestine. Well said. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 17:03:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5N3Y6q006114 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:03:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BAA8F1E601B6; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:59:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C3551E6015D for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:59:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A346D7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:52:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14498997 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:51:57 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5Mpv509693 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:51:57 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA5MptYS026160 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:51:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FA97EC5.4090501@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 16:50:45 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: reading and remembering References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105092942.00b96968@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: >>> The original "hypothesis" (that's not quite what it was) that triggered >>> this thread may be incorrect in its specifics-- that is the notion that >>> reading >>> itself promotes memory development. But if early reading is an >>> indicator of other factors, and I suspect it is, those underlying >>> factors >>> could >>> definitely have an impact on memory and brain development. The original >>> notion of a link between reading and memory development could be >>> comfortably subsumed within that broader notion. --Marty >> >> >> No, he was saying the reverse -- that memory development >> spurs reading ability. Read absolutely spurs brain development >> Rita Rouvalis Chapman > > > This is what he said: "My mom & I have hypothesized for years if memories > (how far they go back) are relevant to when one learns to read - and thus, > start laying down information in the brain." > > I favor Marty's interpretation which was also mine. > OK. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 17:21:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5NLR6q006297 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:21:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 433021E601BA; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:17:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C6DF1E6015D for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:17:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3476F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:09:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14500441 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:09:55 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5N9t512101 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:09:55 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.83]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031105230949.UOHR1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:09:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA9833D.84CCE8E0@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 17:09:49 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor Q References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776BA@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > Sept 11 16 > 18 15 > 25 14 > Oct 2 13 > 9 12 > 16 11 > 23 10 > 30 10 - 2 + 2 Outcasts = 10 > Nov 6 9 <- voting jury starts > 13 8 > 20 7 > 27 6 > Dec 4 5 > 11 4 > 18 3 * > > * immunity survivor selects their final challenger then voting by jury > occurs. Thanks. That does seem to work. It just felt like too many people for the weeks left. I hadn't done an actual count of people/weeks. I don't know why it felt that way to me. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 17:24:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5NOW6q006348 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:24:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6A5961E601BF; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:20:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36BEF1E6015D for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:20:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A34761@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:13:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14500563 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:13:00 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5ND0512364 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:13:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.83]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031105231255.UPWZ1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:12:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA983F6.2640AF0F@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 17:12:54 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: YAY! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105173326.00bbadf8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Businesses here are not that competitive. But Home Depot does claim to > feel badly about it and have discounted the cost of installation by > $160. Not that we have the water heater and not that we have it installed. If you aren't in a huge hurry for it, I'd say that sounds like a pretty good deal. Why are you getting a new one? I have the vague memory that we discussed it, but I don't remember the answer. I find it an interesting subject since I am looking forward to replacing my electric one with a gas one someday. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 17:26:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5NQt6q006364 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:26:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AEAFC1E601C6; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:22:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ACD81E601BF for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:22:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A34775@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:15:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14500652 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:15:23 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5NFN512608 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:15:23 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.83]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031105231518.URBF1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:15:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA98486.4F3D7143@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 17:15:18 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor Q References: <4553534592c1.4592c1455353@optonline.net> <1737306156.20031105072649@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105173703.00bc59e8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Well, let's see. When two people from the Outcasts are voted back on to > the island tomorrow, we will have ten survivors. One will be voted off at > the end of the show, leaving us with nine. On November 13 we will be down > to eight; November 20 seven; November 27 six; December 4 five; December 11 > four; leaving the Grand Finale Show on December 18 when they will have the > traditional three hour show moving from four to two during the first two > hours and announcing the Ultimate Survivor during the reunion show at the > third hour. Works for me. Yes. I feel better knowing that it is all going to work out. I had been feeling about it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 17:34:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5NYK6q006443 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:34:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 700921E60164; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:29:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DA0B1E6015D for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:29:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A34791@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:22:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14500942 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:22:48 -0500 Received: from imo-r01.mx.aol.com (imo-r01.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.97]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5NMm513138 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:22:48 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1d5.13aef5be (16484) for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:22:28 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1d5.13aef5be.2cdae034@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:22:28 EST Subject: New Dog To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU We picked out a new dog today; he's a rat terrier, so he's as small as Sweetie; he's brown and white with brown eyes; and he's very quiet, he didn't bark once while we were there. We can't pick him up for a week, because they still have to neuter him, and the shelter will be closed Monday and Tuesday (for the holiday). He's a really sweet dog, and Mom will have no trouble walking him Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Trying to make sense of the latest Big O From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 17:41:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5Nfe6q006507 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:41:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1510D1E601C6; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:37:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D301F1E601BF for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:37:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A347BD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:30:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14501282 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:30:07 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5NU7513852 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:30:07 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-243.gwi.net [216.195.157.243]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA5NU0Gp037099; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:30:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105182803.00b5cde8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 18:29:58 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: winter, whiskey, and canned goods In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:37 PM 11/5/2003 -0500, Marty Rosen wrote: >I have a question about storing canned goods. Can we safely leave cans of >green beans and the like in an unheated cottage through the frozen depths of >winter? No. They will freeze, expand, and burst. You won't enjoy the outcome. > Clearly we can't leave beer or wine, but what about whiskey? Whiskey, gin, voka, tequila, etc., yes. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 17:52:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5NqE6q006585 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:52:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DA3E51E601BF; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:47:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7EAB1E60164 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:47:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A347E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:40:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14501847 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:40:43 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5Neg515096 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:40:42 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-243.gwi.net [216.195.157.243]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA5NebGr038572; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:40:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105183022.00b61878@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 18:33:20 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <3FA974A0.5CCD6370@maynor.net> References: <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <993555362.20031105071106@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:07 PM 11/5/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > >Was? I don't think it's over. > > > > You may be right. But to most Episcopalians, there is simply no issue. > >I didn't follow it closely, but certainly the headlines made it sound >like a . I thought that one of the more revealing articles on this was a short interview with the first woman to be consecrated as an Episcopalian bishop. Her take was that the same people who were outraged at her appointment (and who also prophesized calamity in the church) were the people screaming this time. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 17:52:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5NqG6q006588 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:52:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CCDDA1E601BF; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:47:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B9541E60164 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:47:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D32E1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:40:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14501866 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:40:44 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5Nei515117 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:40:44 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-243.gwi.net [216.195.157.243]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA5NebGt038572; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:40:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105183712.00b62900@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 18:40:33 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: YAY! In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776B8@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:06 PM 11/5/2003 -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: >If I'd paid for a water heater and it was due since Aug 15, I wouldn't be >sitting still. But if someone is willing to sit still that long, I'd be >more than happy to sell some of the stuff in my garage and go much longer >(potentially never) without delivering it. The description of all that has happened would interminably long and probably equally boirng to most on the list. It has been, if not a comedy, at least an exercise in errors, mostly on the part of Home Depot, its local (Ellsworth) staff, and its supplier (in this case, GE). I may have cleared up the last bit of confusion about an hour ago. Then again... In the meantime, we do have hot water, so it's not like it's been an emergency situation. Personally, I blame Dubya. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 17:53:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA5NrE6q006593 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:53:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 47F221E60164; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:48:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1892F1E601BF for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:48:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A347F4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:41:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14501908 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:41:42 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5Nfg515203 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:41:42 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-243.gwi.net [216.195.157.243]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA5NfeGn038697 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:41:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105183417.089e84a0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 18:41:44 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: YAY! In-Reply-To: <3FA983F6.2640AF0F@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105173326.00bbadf8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >If you aren't in a huge hurry for it, I'd say that sounds like a pretty >good deal. Why are you getting a new one? I have the vague memory that >we discussed it, but I don't remember the answer. I find it an >interesting subject since I am looking forward to replacing my electric >one with a gas one someday. -- Natalie We are replacing an oil-fired one with a gas one. There are no natural gas pipelines here. So it has to be propane gas. We already have propane to the house for the Jenn-Air stovetop. The location of the water heater will have to be moved so that it can direct vent out an outside wall rather than vent up the chimney, the way the oil-fired one does now. Codes have changed and they insist that each appliance have its own vent. This is why we cannot replace our living room wood stove with a gas stove, unless we build a new chimney for it. The water heater we have now has never worked well. It hasn't worked as well as the one that came with the house. It's main problem is that it does not recover quickly. The new one should solve that problem. Of even more interest than the new water heater will be the possibility of central air-conditioning. This plumber with whom Home Depot contracts is actually a heating expert. When he came to develop an estimate for the water heater job, he told us that we have a very fine furnace, one advantage of which is that central air can be added to it with relative ease. We are hoping that he can give us an estimate on that and determine how difficult it would be to extend the existing duct work to the second floor. Central air would be a godsend on those ten or twenty days a year when it is needed. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 18:06:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA606r6q006747 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:06:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 850FA1E601D7; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:02:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 538C91E60164 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:02:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3481C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:55:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14502407 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:55:19 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5Nsb516367 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:54:37 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-243.gwi.net [216.195.157.243]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA5NsNAt056096; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:54:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105184140.00b63698@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 18:54:15 -0500 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: autumn and all that... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It is reasonably evident that our autumn is at an end. As usual, the last big tourist weekend was Columbus Day. The autumnal foliage continued to develop nicely through the end of October and with some exceptions, the weather cooperated. With the onset of November, the village fountains were boarded up, most of the shops, inns, and restaurants closed, and now we are in that sort of middle ground between the highly colored autumn and the stark white and black of winter. The weather is playing its part---yesterday was rainy and misty, today began decently but ended with a cold rain. The old saying around here is that winter can't begin until the ponds are full. On that basis, wintah could come any time now. It is a peaceful time. The crowds are gone; the locals are smiling; and the few tourists seem a bit nervous and uncertain (partly, of course, because all of the shops are closed tightly). The park has announced that main park roads will close with the first substantial snowfall or Veteran/s Day, whichever comes first. We already have seen snow atop Cadillac---at least on the north slopes---and just missed some sort of mixed ice/sleet/rain last night. Anyhow, some of our autumn rambles are pictured at: http://community.webshots.com/user/cwvoigt under Autumn in Acadia. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 18:25:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA60P56q006976 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:25:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0776F1E601D4; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:20:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD8BA1E601D1 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:20:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3486C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:13:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14503446 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:13:33 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA60DW518758 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:13:32 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA60DW8b010306 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:13:32 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA60DWfC002199 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:13:32 -0500 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 19:15:25 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Prime Meeber! Message-ID: <1741712390.1068059725@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Happiest of Birthdays, John!!!!! > > AS And many more! Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 18:26:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA60QC6q006989 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:26:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 918031E601D4; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:21:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61A0E1E60164 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:21:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A34875@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:14:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14503519 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:14:40 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA60Ee518917 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:14:40 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA60Ee8b010327 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:14:40 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA60EefC002354 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:14:40 -0500 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 19:16:33 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: out o town Message-ID: <1741780093.1068059793@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <200311051610.hA5GAjH17849@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200311051610.hA5GAjH17849@listserv.cc.uga.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I'm off to Chicago for that Honors snobbash I was talking about a bit ago. > > Back Monday. Don't go and be interesting behind my back, now, y'all! > clo Are you meeting Tushar for beers? Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 18:42:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA60gw6q007107 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:42:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CBD461E601D5; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:38:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952CC1E601D4 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:38:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A348B0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:31:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14504080 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:31:25 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA60VP520258 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:31:25 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA60VNYS019025 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:31:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FA99615.9050406@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 18:30:13 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections References: <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <993555362.20031105071106@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105183022.00b61878@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 04:07 PM 11/5/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >> "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: >> > >Was? I don't think it's over. >> > >> > You may be right. But to most Episcopalians, there is simply no issue. >> >> I didn't follow it closely, but certainly the headlines made it sound >> like a . > > > I thought that one of the more revealing articles on this was a short > interview with the first woman to be consecrated as an Episcopalian > bishop. Her take was that the same people who were outraged at her > appointment (and who also prophesized calamity in the church) were the > people screaming this time. That's not entirely true. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 18:49:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA60nY6q007159 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:49:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 33C371E601D7; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:45:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 026591E601D4 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:45:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A348B3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:38:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14504311 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:38:02 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA60c1520832 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:38:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.83]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031106003756.DGWJ1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:37:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA997E1.FC522BD5@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 18:37:53 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Did I Say This This Morning? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I liked this letter in today's Clarion-Ledger. I sent the url to my uncle in Spain, who replied saying that he also liked it very much. Now I can't remember whether I also sent it to Words-L this morning. It's nothing new or exciting, just a good letter to see in today's paper with all the bad election stuff: http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0311/05/l01.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 18:53:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA60re6q007230 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:53:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8A29C1E601E0; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:47:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A1351E601DF for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:47:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A348BA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:40:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14504394 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:40:04 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA60e4521043 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:40:04 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.83]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031106003959.DHNZ1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:39:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA9985F.CF98D75E@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 18:39:59 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Dog References: <1d5.13aef5be.2cdae034@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > > We picked out a new dog today; he's a rat terrier, so he's as > small as Sweetie; he's brown and white with brown eyes; > and he's very quiet, he didn't bark once while we were there. > We can't pick him up for a week, because they still have to > neuter him, and the shelter will be closed Monday and > Tuesday (for the holiday). He's a really sweet dog, and > Mom will have no trouble walking him Did you discuss your earlier dog situation with the shelter people -- telling them about Daisy? I hope so since that could help them advise you on whether this dog is the right dog for you. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 18:53:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA60re6q007231 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:53:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A6C6D1E601D4; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:48:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D76711E601DF for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:48:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A348CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:40:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14504412 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:40:56 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA60eu521077 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:40:56 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.83]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031106004047.DHVH1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:40:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA9988F.9F770426@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 18:40:47 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections References: <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <993555362.20031105071106@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105183022.00b61878@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > I thought that one of the more revealing articles on this was a short > interview with the first woman to be consecrated as an Episcopalian > bishop. Her take was that the same people who were outraged at her > appointment (and who also prophesized calamity in the church) were the > people screaming this time. Sounds likely. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 18:57:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA60vv6q007252 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:57:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B9B741E601E0; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:53:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 871A21E601DF for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:53:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A348D2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:46:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14504528 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:46:24 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA60kO521437 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:46:24 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.83]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031106004619.DJSS1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:46:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA999DB.55C1E407@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 18:46:19 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: YAY! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105173326.00bbadf8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105183417.089e84a0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > The water heater we have now has never worked well. It hasn't worked as > well as the one that came with the house. The one you have isn't the one that came with the house? What happened to the one that came with the house? > Of even more interest than the new water heater will be the possibility of > central air-conditioning. This plumber with whom Home Depot contracts is > actually a heating expert. When he came to develop an estimate for the > water heater job, he told us that we have a very fine furnace, one > advantage of which is that central air can be added to it with relative > ease. We are hoping that he can give us an estimate on that and determine > how difficult it would be to extend the existing duct work to the second > floor. Central air would be a godsend on those ten or twenty days a year > when it is needed. Unless the cost is very, very low, I'd be against it. Ten or twenty days a year is not a big number, and I bet you don't really have that many days when it is REALLY needed -- when the heat is unbearable. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 19:01:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA611G6q007305 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:01:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C0E151E601DF; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:56:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CB791E601D4 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:56:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A348E1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:49:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14504665 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:49:43 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA60nh521732 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:49:43 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.83]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031106004938.DKUT1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:49:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA99AA2.57599B8F@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 18:49:38 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: autumn and all that... References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105184140.00b63698@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > http://community.webshots.com/user/cwvoigt Nice! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 19:27:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA61RT6q007523 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:27:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B36C21E601EA; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:23:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81B461E601E1 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:23:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A34940@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:15:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14505845 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:15:56 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA61Fu524780 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:15:56 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.83]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031106011551.WQTX1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:15:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA9A0C7.40901CBF@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 19:15:51 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: I love it! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=17125 -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 19:28:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA61SI6q007529 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:28:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 698A31E601E1; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:23:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 359A61E60161 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:23:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3495D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:16:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14505515 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:16:45 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA616h523849 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:06:43 -0500 Received: (qmail 13508 invoked by uid 1003); 6 Nov 2003 01:06:42 -0000 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:06:42 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: headphones Message-ID: <20031106010642.GA11893@words-l.org> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104201100.05ab2378@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 07:51:48AM -0800, Ann Borkin wrote: > On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Peter Kaminski wrote: > > [helpful advice] > > Thanks, Pete > > I don't know why the earplug headphones don't work on me but they don't. > At least the ones I've tried. Maybe I'm afraid to jam them in far enough > - they keep falling out when I crane my neck. And I'm a huge neck-craner, > it goes along with the bad eyesight I guess. Sure ... It's obviously because somebody told Dr Borkin in '91 that it looked "cute" ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 19:34:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA61YS6q007602 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:34:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5C7C91E601F0; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:30:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D8921E601EA for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:30:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D3471@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:22:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14505706 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:22:45 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA61Cj524437 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:12:45 -0500 Received: (qmail 15959 invoked by uid 1003); 6 Nov 2003 01:12:44 -0000 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:12:44 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: headphones Message-ID: <20031106011244.GB11893@words-l.org> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104201100.05ab2378@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105080248.03b05900@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105080248.03b05900@mail.istori.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 10:40:45AM -0800, Peter Kaminski wrote: > Ann Borkin writes, > > >At least the ones I've tried. Maybe I'm afraid to jam them in far enough > >- they keep falling out when I crane my neck. > > Maybe. I put them in by pulling the top of my ear up (usually by reaching > around the back of my head with my other arm), and then wiggling them in a > bit. Thank you for that inspiring use of the word "usually". After trying for about five minutes I think I have almost perfected the maneuver to put an earplug in with one hand. This will prove hugely valuable on the train, with a book and/or cofee cup in hand. The years I have spent thinking I needed two hands for this! Any ideas about how to pull a cap on with one hand, given a bald head? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 19:35:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA61ZY6q007621 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:35:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6DC101E601EA; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:31:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39FF21E601E1 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:31:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D3451@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:24:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14506059 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:24:01 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA61O1525591 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:24:01 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-243.gwi.net [216.195.157.243]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA61NxAr071918 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:24:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105201939.08a14b88@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 20:24:03 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: YAY! In-Reply-To: <3FA999DB.55C1E407@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105173326.00bbadf8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105183417.089e84a0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >The one you have isn't the one that came with the house? What happened >to the one that came with the house? The one that came with the house died, dead, not to be resurrected. It leaked its water out and gave up the ghost. It had to be replaced on an emergency basis. >Unless the cost is very, very low, I'd be against it. Ten or twenty >days a year is not a big number, and I bet you don't really have that >many days when it is REALLY needed -- when the heat is unbearable. > -- Natalie Yes, well, there is this difference between you and I about heat and cold. We'll see what the estimate is. I'd be willing to spend up to $4000 to know I could keep my house at 72 on a day when it hits 90 outdoors and the humidity seeps into the house with the fog. And at night I wouldn't be dependent on the sea breeze to cool the house. It would already be cool and I could just turn off the air conditioner and open the windows to the freshening breeze. Ahhhhh. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 19:35:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA61Zb6q007624 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:35:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E06331E601EE; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:31:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF6131E601EA for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:31:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A34960@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:24:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14506067 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:24:05 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA61O4525601 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:24:04 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003110601235801500eca3ke> (Authid: adamh1); Thu, 6 Nov 2003 01:23:59 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: YAY! Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:23:55 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <200311051926.hA5JQWci004906@ra.msstate.edu> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > My Birkenstocks arrived today. I was beginning to worry since I had > ordered them August 30. > --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) Yay for you! And Yay for me because the CDs I ordered from Australia on 8/15 finally arrived today! --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 19:36:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA61aw6q007645 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:36:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 81D121E601EF; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:32:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 526911E601EA for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:32:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A34962@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:25:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14505834 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:25:25 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA61FP524737 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:15:25 -0500 Received: (qmail 17070 invoked by uid 1003); 6 Nov 2003 01:15:24 -0000 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:15:24 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: headphones Message-ID: <20031106011524.GC11893@words-l.org> References: <20031105044648.GB70699@words-l.org> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105161858.089ee580@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105161858.089ee580@pop.gwi.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 04:19:34PM -0500, bonniev wrote: > >> What's your address? I will send you my high-tech noise-cancelling > >> headphones. > > > >zowee! I just think it's a wonderful world, with diegetic mutant hogs > >throwing high-tech apparatus across the continent to help out > >noise-assaulted old ladies. > >Ann > > Wouldn't it be prudent for you to ask him why it is that he no longer wants > them? I a(sub)m an altr(liminal)uistic pers(suggestions)on, "Bonnie". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 19:41:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA61fG6q007670 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:41:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8B8F61E601F0; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:36:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 518731E601EF for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:36:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A34963@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:29:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14505947 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:29:43 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA61Jh525102 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:19:43 -0500 Received: (qmail 18599 invoked by uid 1003); 6 Nov 2003 01:19:42 -0000 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:19:42 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Trent Lott Message-ID: <20031106011942.GD11893@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 04:36:01PM -0500, Marty Rosen wrote: > Hmm. Now Lott is thinking like a true Roman senator. Have you heard the phrase "Riyadh delenda est"? It struck me as very erudite. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 19:45:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA61jS6q007695 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:45:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B2C0C1E601EA; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:41:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 763531E6016B for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:41:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3497B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:33:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14506046 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:33:55 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA61Nt525560 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:23:55 -0500 Received: (qmail 20290 invoked by uid 1003); 6 Nov 2003 01:23:54 -0000 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:23:54 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: headphones Message-ID: <20031106012354.GE11893@words-l.org> References: <20031105044648.GB70699@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 08:01:20AM -0800, Ann Borkin wrote: > zowee! I just think it's a wonderful world, with diegetic mutant hogs > throwing high-tech apparatus across the continent to help out > noise-assaulted old ladies. > > 43 Ridge Road > Fairfax, CA 94930 What's the best known packing method? The right "earmuff" part has gotten detached in one place, so you will have to glue it on if you care ... (it's made no difference to me). From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 19:47:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA61lU6q007709 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:47:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E2BDC1E601EF; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:43:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4DF31E601EA for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:43:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D3476@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:35:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14506106 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:35:58 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA61Pw525818 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:25:58 -0500 Received: (qmail 21230 invoked by uid 1003); 6 Nov 2003 01:25:57 -0000 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:25:57 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: headphones Message-ID: <20031106012557.GF11893@words-l.org> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105161858.089ee580@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 01:41:13PM -0800, Ann Borkin wrote: > On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, bonniev wrote: > > > Wouldn't it be prudent for you to ask him why it is that he no > > longer wants them? > > Who said he doesn't want them? Maybe I want them more! Oh, that ... Well let me come clean. I never did read The Fountainhead through. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 19:53:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA61rb6q007759 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:53:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 58C7F1E601F4; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:49:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 270021E6016B for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:49:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3497C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:42:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14506565 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:42:04 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA61g3527482 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:42:03 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA61g2YB009427 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:42:03 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:42:39 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <133172015.20031105194239@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Survivor Q In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7769C@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7769C@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 05, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: >>From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] >>Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 5:21 PM >>Phil Paxton wrote: >> >>> When Rupert played for the other team, did he spend time at >>their campsite? >> >>Yes. He helped them move their shelter away from the water. > Then this information overcomes the issue he doesn't know where their camp > is (which was offered yesterday). I meant is a general suggestion for why looting hasn't occurred in the past. These guys have spent a fair amount at each other's camps, but I suspect that 'no looting' is written into the contract. Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 19:54:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA61s96q007762 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:54:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ADFB51E601F0; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:49:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FAB61E601EA for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:49:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D348A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:42:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14506583 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:42:36 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA61ga527548 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:42:36 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA61gZIf015086 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:42:36 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:43:12 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <889430761.20031105194312@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Prime Meeber! In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 05, 2003, Amy Burns Short wrote: > Happiest of Birthdays, John!!!!! >From me, too. Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 19:55:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA61tf6q007777 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:55:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 447F91E601F0; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:51:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1642D1E601EA for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:51:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3499E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:44:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14506640 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:44:08 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA61i8527657 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:44:08 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.83]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031106014402.EDBY1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:44:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA9A762.96CB134C@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 19:44:02 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I love it! References: <3FA9A0C7.40901CBF@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=17125 I should probably have added more info about what it is. It's about Dean and the pickup-truck/flag comment and is about some bless-your-heart type matters. I'm still a staunch supporter of Dean, but I must admit that I'm not sure he would really it (it being the funny article). He is, after all, a Yankee. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 19:57:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA61ve6q007783 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:57:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B531E1E601F0; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:53:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 820261E601EF for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:53:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D34BB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:46:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14506727 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:46:07 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA61k7527850 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:46:07 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.83]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031106014557.EDSQ1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:45:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA9A7D5.BF4309D0@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 19:45:57 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: YAY! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield wrote: > > > My Birkenstocks arrived today. I was beginning to worry since I had > > ordered them August 30. > > --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) > > Yay for you! > > And Yay for me because the CDs I ordered from Australia on 8/15 finally > arrived today! It was a good day! We should celebrate! The only negative is that I'm not at all sure I'm administering Spencer's ear medicine properly. I seem to have used half the tube that was supposed to last for ten days, and I have a feeling that I'm not squirting it deep enough into the ear. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 19:57:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA61vu6q007787 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:57:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AEA851E601EF; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:53:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8017E1E601EA for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:53:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3498B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:46:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14506736 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:46:23 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA61kN527866 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:46:23 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA61kMYB016720 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:46:23 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:46:59 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <903076452.20031105194659@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: References: <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <993555362.20031105071106@WordWrite.com> <427917379.20031105072618@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 05, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >>> You may be right. But to most Episcopalians, there is simply no issue. >> >>"Most"? I think your POV is skewed, or all the news reports I've been >>reading are wrong. You are beginning to sound like Natalie. > I think you are paying too much attention to fringe speakers. My impression is that outside of the US, this is not a popular appt. Is that wrong? Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 19:59:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA61x96q007794 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:59:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ED8001E601EA; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:54:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE31A1E6016C for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:54:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3499A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:47:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14506751 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:47:37 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA61la527940 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:47:36 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA61lZYB018618 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:47:36 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:48:13 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <22635064.20031105194813@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 05, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: [about poverty and obedience] > Good question. I practice a bit of both. I think that they probably need > to be practiced together. Why? Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 19:59:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA61xA6q007797 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:59:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 181C61E601EF; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:54:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDAC31E6016C for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:54:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3498C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:47:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14506757 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:47:38 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA61lb527944 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:47:37 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.83]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031106014732.EEHL1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:47:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA9A831.6DE2D85F@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 19:47:29 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: YAY! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105173326.00bbadf8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105183417.089e84a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105201939.08a14b88@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Yes, well, there is this difference between you and I about heat and > cold. We'll see what the estimate is. I'd be willing to spend up to $4000 > to know I could keep my house at 72 on a day when it hits 90 outdoors and > the humidity seeps into the house with the fog. Me wouldn't. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 20:00:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA620d6q007812 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:00:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6BA501E601EA; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:56:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DCAB1E6016C for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:56:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3499D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:49:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14506800 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:49:06 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA61n6528132 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:49:06 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-243.gwi.net [216.195.157.243]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA61n4Gn055882 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:49:05 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105204816.08a1bcd0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 20:49:08 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: I love it! In-Reply-To: <3FA9A762.96CB134C@maynor.net> References: <3FA9A0C7.40901CBF@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=17125 > >I should probably have added more info about what it is. It's about >Dean and the pickup-truck/flag comment and is about some >bless-your-heart type matters. I'm still a staunch supporter of Dean, >but I must admit that I'm not sure he would really it (it being >the funny article). He is, after all, a Yankee. > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Glad to hear that you are still a Dean supporter. I imagine you also appreciated the slam in the article to Dubya, being raised by Yankees in Texas. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 20:01:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA621c6q007820 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:01:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5D1331E601EA; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:57:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29EFA1E6016C for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:57:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A34993@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:50:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14506847 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:50:05 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA61o5528278 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:50:05 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA61o4YB022490 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:50:04 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:50:41 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1762882111.20031105195041@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105162706.00bcfaf0@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105162706.00bcfaf0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 05, 2003, bonniev wrote: > You practice poverty? You appear to me to be the wealthiest wordsler and > the most attached to your belongings. She negotiates for everything--does that give the appearance of wealth? Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 20:03:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA623k6q007844 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:03:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BA8981E601F4; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:59:19 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 887401E601F0 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:59:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A349B2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:52:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14506570 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:52:13 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA61gC527498 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:42:13 -0500 Received: (qmail 28117 invoked by uid 1003); 6 Nov 2003 01:42:08 -0000 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:42:08 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: The great averager Message-ID: <20031106014208.GA27642@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Something to while the minutes away ... http://www.salavon.com/work.shtml From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 20:06:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA62646q007873 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:06:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 33C3B1E601EA; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:01:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05A681E6016C for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:01:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A349B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:54:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14506963 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:54:31 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA61sV528645 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:54:31 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA61sTYB000387 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:54:30 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:55:07 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1556707828.20031105195507@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <3FA97D22.3090108@swbell.net> References: <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <993555362.20031105071106@WordWrite.com> <3FA974A0.5CCD6370@maynor.net> <3FA97D22.3090108@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 05, 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: [about Bishop Robinson] > I'm personally pissed off about the whole thing. Why? Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 20:06:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA626M6q007877 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:06:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E27711E6016C; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:01:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B30611E601F0 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:01:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A349AA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:54:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14506677 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:54:50 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA61in527740 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:44:49 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA61i83W016716 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:44:11 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:44:46 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <20031105221859.16962.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031105221859.16962.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >> And I don't know how to measure attachment. Almost >> all my belongings are >> in cardboard boxes in the dining-room. I own almost >> no furniture - no >> dining-room furniture all. What belongings are you >> thinking of? My 1990 >> minivan? My bookcases, most of which I built in the >> 1970s? > >This reinforces the evidence that what you are >attached to, is your money.:-] Which part of my money? There is very litle left after I make two mortgage payments and one condo payment each month! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 20:07:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA627X6q007893 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:07:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DCD641E6016C; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:03:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A96AF1E6016B for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:03:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A349B0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:56:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14506722 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:56:01 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA61k0527825 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:46:00 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA61jL3W017000 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:45:21 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:45:59 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105173221.00bc8840@pop.gwi.net> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105162706.00bcfaf0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105162706.00bcfaf0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105173221.00bc8840@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, bonniev wrote: >>What belongings are you thinking of? My 1990 >>minivan? My bookcases, most of which I built in the 1970s? >>Bethany > >Your artwork. Oh. The pieces I have not given away, right? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 20:08:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA628D6q007900 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:08:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 05BD41E601EF; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:03:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB55E1E601EA for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:03:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A349AE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:56:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14507119 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:56:36 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA61uZ528941 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:56:35 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-243.gwi.net [216.195.157.243]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA61uYAr077067 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:56:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105205601.08a03070@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 20:56:37 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: YAY! In-Reply-To: <3FA9A831.6DE2D85F@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105173326.00bbadf8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105183417.089e84a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105201939.08a14b88@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >bonniev wrote: > > Yes, well, there is this difference between you and I about heat and > > cold. We'll see what the estimate is. I'd be willing to spend up to $4000 > > to know I could keep my house at 72 on a day when it hits 90 outdoors and > > the humidity seeps into the house with the fog. > >Me wouldn't. -- Natalie But I bet you would pay it for heat. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 20:08:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA628e6q007903 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:08:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1A8341E601EF; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:04:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFCA51E601EA for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:04:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A349D2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:57:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14506750 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:57:07 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA61l7527932 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:47:07 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA61kS3W017245 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:46:28 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:47:06 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <3FA97D22.3090108@swbell.net> Message-ID: References: <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <993555362.20031105071106@WordWrite.com> <3FA974A0.5CCD6370@maynor.net> <3FA97D22.3090108@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: >>>>Was? I don't think it's over. >>>> >>>You may be right. But to most Episcopalians, there is simply no issue. >>> >> >> I didn't follow it closely, but certainly the headlines made it sound >> like a . > > > Bethany is out of touch. It is a HUGE thing around here. >I'm personally pissed off about the whole thing. Bethany is thinking about the entire USA, not the small pised-off areas. B. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 20:09:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA62956q007914 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:09:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B465B1E601EA; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:04:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83B941E6016B for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:04:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D34EC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:57:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14507245 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:57:32 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA61vW529153 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:57:32 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-243.gwi.net [216.195.157.243]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA61vVGn057283 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:57:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105205700.08a1b6d0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 20:57:35 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <1762882111.20031105195041@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105162706.00bcfaf0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105162706.00bcfaf0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > You practice poverty? You appear to me to be the wealthiest wordsler and > > the most attached to your belongings. > >She negotiates for everything--does that give the appearance of >wealth? > >Karen, >Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... It gives the appearance of money being a very important consideration in all things. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 20:12:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA62Cq6q007928 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:12:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EAAAE1E601EA; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:08:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8FB11E6016C for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:08:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A349EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:01:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14506876 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:00:37 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA61ob528335 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:50:37 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA61nw3W018301 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:49:58 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:50:37 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <903076452.20031105194659@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <993555362.20031105071106@WordWrite.com> <427917379.20031105072618@WordWrite.com> <903076452.20031105194659@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >My impression is that outside of the US, this is not a popular appt. >Is that wrong? It is not popular in some countries in Africa - some of those that routinely deny medical treatment for AIDS on the theory that there is no homosexuality in their countries, therefore no need for medical treatment (wrong on two counts, at least). Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 20:13:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA62D16q007931 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:13:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7FA451E601EF; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:08:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE4B1E601EA for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:08:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A349D3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:01:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14507448 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:01:28 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA621S529575 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:01:28 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA621QMe005822 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:01:27 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FA9AB2E.8050703@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 20:00:14 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections References: <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <993555362.20031105071106@WordWrite.com> <3FA974A0.5CCD6370@maynor.net> <3FA97D22.3090108@swbell.net> <1556707828.20031105195507@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > On Wednesday, November 05, 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > [about Bishop Robinson] > >>I'm personally pissed off about the whole thing. >> > > Why? It's a double-standard. If he had divorced his wife and married a 25-year-old, would he be bishop now? -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 20:14:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA62En6q007952 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:14:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6C6611E601EF; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:10:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D3AA1E601EA for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:10:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A349E2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:03:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14507623 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:03:16 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA623F529956 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:03:16 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA623BMe008499 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:03:11 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FA9AB97.4020903@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 20:01:59 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections References: <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <993555362.20031105071106@WordWrite.com> <3FA974A0.5CCD6370@maynor.net> <3FA97D22.3090108@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > > >>>>>Was? I don't think it's over. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>You may be right. But to most Episcopalians, there is simply no issue. >>>> >>>> >>>I didn't follow it closely, but certainly the headlines made it sound >>>like a . >>> >> >> Bethany is out of touch. It is a HUGE thing around here. >>I'm personally pissed off about the whole thing. >> > > Bethany is thinking about the entire USA, not the small pised-off areas. Have it your way. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 20:16:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA62Gm6q008022 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:16:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AC0C11E601EF; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:11:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C7021E601EA for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:11:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D350C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:04:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14507660 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:04:14 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA624E530073 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:04:14 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA624DYB018732 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:04:14 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:04:51 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1228752442.20031105200451@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <3FA9AB2E.8050703@swbell.net> References: <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <993555362.20031105071106@WordWrite.com> <3FA974A0.5CCD6370@maynor.net> <3FA97D22.3090108@swbell.net> <1556707828.20031105195507@WordWrite.com> <3FA9AB2E.8050703@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 05, 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> On Wednesday, November 05, 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: >> [about Bishop Robinson] >> >>>I'm personally pissed off about the whole thing. >>> >> >> Why? > It's a double-standard. If he had divorced his wife and > married a 25-year-old, would he be bishop now? I don't know. But I appreciate the point. Every discussion we've had about religion recently on Words-L has made me more determined in my Quakerism. Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 20:16:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA62Gn6q008026 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:16:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E9EF61E601F0; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:11:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB8201E6016C for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:11:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A34A01@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:04:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14507678 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:04:50 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA624n530133 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:04:49 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA624mMe010633 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:04:49 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FA9ABF9.6020001@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 20:03:37 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections References: <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <993555362.20031105071106@WordWrite.com> <427917379.20031105072618@WordWrite.com> <903076452.20031105194659@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: > > >>My impression is that outside of the US, this is not a popular appt. >>Is that wrong? >> > > It is not popular in some countries in Africa - some of those that > routinely deny medical treatment for AIDS on the theory that there is no > homosexuality in their countries, therefore no need for medical > treatment (wrong on two counts, at least). Namely Nigeria, which has an Anglican membership that is several times that of the U.S. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 20:16:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA62Gn6q008030 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:16:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 17B1B1E601F4; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:12:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDEAB1E6016C for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:12:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A349F6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:05:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14507695 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:05:12 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA625B530198 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:05:11 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA625AIf020916 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:05:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:05:47 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <467678948.20031105200547@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105205700.08a1b6d0@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105162706.00bcfaf0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105162706.00bcfaf0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105205700.08a1b6d0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 05, 2003, bonniev wrote: >> > You practice poverty? You appear to me to be the wealthiest wordsler and >> > the most attached to your belongings. >> >>She negotiates for everything--does that give the appearance of >>wealth? >> >>Karen, >>Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... > It gives the appearance of money being a very important consideration in > all things. True--but money is much more important to me when I don't have than when I do. Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 20:18:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA62IR6q008066 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:18:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 547EA1E60172; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:14:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26DA61E6016C for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:14:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A34A07@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:06:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14507771 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:06:54 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA626s530436 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:06:54 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA626qIf023980 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:06:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:07:29 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1671717041.20031105200729@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: YAY! In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105201939.08a14b88@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105173326.00bbadf8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105183417.089e84a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105201939.08a14b88@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 05, 2003, bonniev wrote: > Yes, well, there is this difference between you and I about heat and > cold. We'll see what the estimate is. I'd be willing to spend up to $4000 > to know I could keep my house at 72 on a day when it hits 90 outdoors and > the humidity seeps into the house with the fog. And at night I wouldn't be > dependent on the sea breeze to cool the house. It would already be cool > and I could just turn off the air conditioner and open the windows to the > freshening breeze. Ahhhhh. Why don't you live in Texas again???? I love the months and months with no heat and no A/C. Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 20:22:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA62M66q008100 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:22:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 304E41E60172; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:17:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2CD01E6016C for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:17:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A34A04@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:10:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14507888 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:10:33 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA62AW530874 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:10:33 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2003110602102701400ls55me> (Authid: adamh1); Thu, 6 Nov 2003 02:10:27 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: autumn and all that... Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:10:23 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105184140.00b63698@pop.gwi.net> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Anyhow, some of our autumn rambles are pictured at: > > http://community.webshots.com/user/cwvoigt > > under Autumn in Acadia. > > cwv Very nice pictures. I guess it was really hazy the day I went up to the top of the mountain. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 20:27:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA62Rn6q008156 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:27:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A282F1E601F4; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:23:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 738A21E601EF for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:23:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A34A0C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:16:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14508089 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:16:16 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA62GG531584 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:16:16 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2003110602160301400ls563e> (Authid: adamh1); Thu, 6 Nov 2003 02:16:03 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: YAY! Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:16:00 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <3FA9A7D5.BF4309D0@maynor.net> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > It was a good day! We should celebrate! We should, but we should celebrate more because it's John's birthday. Happy birthday! --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 20:29:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA62TY6q008194 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:29:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 322251E601FE; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:25:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A2A1E601EF for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:25:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A34A2E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:18:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14507815 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:18:01 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6280530595 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:08:00 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA627M3W023202 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:07:22 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:08:00 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <3FA9AB2E.8050703@swbell.net> Message-ID: References: <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <993555362.20031105071106@WordWrite.com> <3FA974A0.5CCD6370@maynor.net> <3FA97D22.3090108@swbell.net> <1556707828.20031105195507@WordWrite.com> <3FA9AB2E.8050703@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > It's a double-standard. If he had divorced his wife and >married a 25-year-old, would he be bishop now? Probably. A number of our bishops are divorced and remarried. Anyway, he is not married. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 20:32:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA62WX6q009926 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:32:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 972221E601EF; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:28:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 679FC1E60172 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:28:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A34A1B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:21:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14508294 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:21:00 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA62L0532248 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:21:00 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA62KxYB018874 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:21:00 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:21:36 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <18110645785.20031105202136@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: References: <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <993555362.20031105071106@WordWrite.com> <3FA974A0.5CCD6370@maynor.net> <3FA97D22.3090108@swbell.net> <1556707828.20031105195507@WordWrite.com> <3FA9AB2E.8050703@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 05, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: >> It's a double-standard. If he had divorced his wife and >>married a 25-year-old, would he be bishop now? > Probably. A number of our bishops are divorced and remarried. Anyway, he > is not married. This is the stupidest thing I've read on this in a long time. Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 20:41:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA62fT6q001008 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:41:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4FADA1E601EF; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:37:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 206961E601EA for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:37:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A34A4F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:29:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14508263 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:29:55 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA62Jt532120 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:19:55 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA62JG3W026088 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:19:16 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:19:54 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <22635064.20031105194813@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <22635064.20031105194813@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >[about poverty and obedience] >> Good question. I practice a bit of both. I think that they probably need >> to be practiced together. > >Why? I am talking about voluntary obedience and poverty - and I assume that bonnie is, too. Voluntary obedience would be very difficult to sustain, I think, in a situation where one could, for any reason, escape the situation. Money permits that escape. Voluntary poverty practiced for its own sake - not in obedience to what one perceives to be a calling or ministry - doesn't make any sense to me. (In the sense that I am talking about them, poverty and obedience are practiced in community, of course.) Bonnie? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 20:42:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA62g56q001012 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:42:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 319001E601EF; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:37:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02E9B1E601EA for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:37:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A34A39@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:30:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14508600 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:30:32 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA62UW500603 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:30:32 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.83]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031106023025.UIOB1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:30:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA9B241.5928939D@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 20:30:25 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections References: <20031105221859.16962.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Which part of my money? There is very litle left after I make two > mortgage payments and one condo payment each month! I assume that by the condo payment you mean the association fee or whatever it is, but why are you making two mortgage payments? Are you doing some kind of double-up thing -- like instead of officially having a shorter loan period, you're just choosing to double the payments each month? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 20:43:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA62hh6q001028 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:43:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D882F1E601EF; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:39:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA73C1E601EA for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:39:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A34A57@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:32:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14508639 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:32:10 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA62W9500739 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:32:09 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.83]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031106023159.UJGU1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:31:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA9B29F.8177053C@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 20:31:59 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105162706.00bcfaf0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105162706.00bcfaf0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105173221.00bc8840@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >Your artwork. > > Oh. The pieces I have not given away, right? I assume she meant the ones you were talking about recently as being highly valuable -- the ones you took special care with moving and hung outside your door to make your entrance elegant. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 20:44:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA62i76q001033 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:44:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EC7901E60172; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:39:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD2BE1E601EF for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:39:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D3580@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:32:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14508667 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:32:34 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA62WX500782 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:32:33 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <20031106023227011003ido1e>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 02:32:27 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105183132.035b4808@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 18:32:08 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: The great averager In-Reply-To: <20031106014208.GA27642@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The web's favorite color: . Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 20:46:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA62ke6q001065 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:46:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 99EC41E601EA; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:42:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B0881E60172 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:42:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A34A45@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:35:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14508721 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:35:07 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA62Z7501030 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:35:07 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA62Z6YB021219 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:35:07 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:35:43 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1779166247.20031105203543@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <22635064.20031105194813@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 05, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > I am talking about voluntary obedience and poverty - and I assume > that bonnie is, too. Voluntary obedience would be very difficult to > sustain, I think, in a situation where one could, for any reason, escape > the situation. Money permits that escape. But it doesn't require it. I think this statement says far more about you than about obedience vows, frankly, and I find it extraordinary. It's certainly an odd view of marriage, for one thing. > Voluntary poverty practiced for its own sake - not in obedience to what > one perceives to be a calling or ministry - doesn't make any sense to me. Ah, okay. Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 20:48:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA62mP6q001083 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:48:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4E2431E601EA; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:43:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F42B1E60172 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:43:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D3566@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:36:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14508752 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:36:52 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA62aL501202 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:36:21 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA62aKIf011630 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:36:20 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:36:57 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <512773772.20031105203657@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: The great averager In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105183132.035b4808@mail.istori.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105183132.035b4808@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 05, 2003, Peter Kaminski wrote: > The web's favorite color: . Interesting "latest photo"... Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 20:48:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA62mu6q001090 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:48:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0E1841E601FE; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:44:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D18D31E601EF for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:44:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A34A66@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:37:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14508791 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:37:23 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA62bM501287 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:37:22 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.83]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031106023717.ULVW1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:37:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA9B3DD.201D9B06@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 20:37:17 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I love it! References: <3FA9A0C7.40901CBF@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105204816.08a1bcd0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Glad to hear that you are still a Dean supporter. I imagine you also > appreciated the slam in the article to Dubya, being raised by Yankees in > Texas. Yes, I found the Dubya comment amusing. You have to admit that he does talk kind of funny. Re being a Dean supporter, I was poised to leap into the Clark ship until I paid more attention to him and concluded that I don't feel with him. So I'm sticking with Dean for now. That online test I took and mentioned here not long ago had me 100% in synch with Dean. Braun and Kucinich were close runners-up. But I will leap into any ship that I think will torpedo the Dubya ship. There is no Democratic candidate I could not support, though there are some I would not feel as enthusiastic about as others. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 20:50:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA62og6q001098 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:50:42 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 912291E601EF; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:46:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC901E60172 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:46:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A34A4F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:39:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14508840 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:39:09 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA62d9501482 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:39:09 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.83]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031106023904.UMQM1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:39:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA9B447.DB1BE025@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 20:39:03 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105162706.00bcfaf0@pop.gwi.net> <1762882111.20031105195041@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > On Wednesday, November 05, 2003, bonniev wrote: > > You practice poverty? You appear to me to be the wealthiest wordsler and > > the most attached to your belongings. > > She negotiates for everything--does that give the appearance of > wealth? I have never gotten the impression that Bethany was wealthy. I have gotten the impression that she thinks quite a bit about money -- that it is something very important to her. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 20:52:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA62q86q001110 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:52:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 539A61E601EA; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:47:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 215341E60172 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:47:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D3596@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:40:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14508886 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:40:35 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA62eY501628 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:40:35 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA62eUYB004179 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:40:34 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:40:34 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <531126718.20031105204034@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: YAY! In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105183417.089e84a0@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105173326.00bbadf8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105183417.089e84a0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 05, 2003, bonniev wrote: > The water heater we have now has never worked well. It hasn't worked as > well as the one that came with the house. It's main problem is that it > does not recover quickly. The new one should solve that problem. I can't remember if I mentioned this, but when they delivered my water heater, they delivered a more expensive one. (I suspect that this was done deliberately, out of sympathy with my lack of money. This one is about $30 more than the one I paid for.) Anyway, the quick recovery was a of the more expensive one. The more expensive one has a better rating for entergy consumption, too. > We are hoping that he can give us an estimate on that and determine > how difficult it would be to extend the existing duct work to the second > floor. Good luck with the ductwork. Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 20:53:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA62rD6q001127 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:53:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DACF01E601EA; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:48:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6EC11E60172 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:48:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D3575@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:41:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14508895 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:40:59 -0500 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA62ex501649 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:40:59 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 18:40:58 PST Message-ID: <20031106024058.9100.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:40:58 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: octopuses get erections To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1228752442.20031105200451@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > Every discussion we've had about religion recently > on Words-L has made > me more determined in my Quakerism. Quakerism?! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 20:53:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA62rD6q001130 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:53:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 24D031E601EA; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:48:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E47C51E60172 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:48:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D3591@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:41:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14508634 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:41:39 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA62VU500669 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:31:30 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA62Uo3W029093 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:30:50 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:31:29 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <18110645785.20031105202136@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <993555362.20031105071106@WordWrite.com> <3FA974A0.5CCD6370@maynor.net> <3FA97D22.3090108@swbell.net> <1556707828.20031105195507@WordWrite.com> <3FA9AB2E.8050703@swbell.net> <18110645785.20031105202136@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >> Probably. A number of our bishops are divorced and remarried. Anyway, he >> is not married. > >This is the stupidest thing I've read on this in a long >time. What? That bishops are divorced? Remarried? B. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 20:53:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA62rR6q001133 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:53:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 633161E601EF; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:49:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FE8B1E601EA for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:49:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A34A73@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:41:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14508935 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:41:54 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA62fs501725 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:41:54 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.83]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031106024147.UNXR1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:41:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA9B4EB.45A5406E@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 20:41:47 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: YAY! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105173326.00bbadf8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105183417.089e84a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105201939.08a14b88@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105205601.08a03070@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > >bonniev wrote: > > > Yes, well, there is this difference between you and I about heat and > > > cold. We'll see what the estimate is. I'd be willing to spend up to $4000 > > > to know I could keep my house at 72 on a day when it hits 90 outdoors and > > > the humidity seeps into the house with the fog. > > > >Me wouldn't. -- Natalie > > But I bet you would pay it for heat. If I had no heat available and had to spend $4,000 to have heat, then yes. I would certainly do that. I would not be a happy camper if I had no heat. But I can't believe that it would cost $4,000 to acquire heat. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 20:53:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA62rp6q001137 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:53:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CF97D1E601EF; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:49:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A136B1E601EA for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:49:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A34A75@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:42:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14508649 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:42:17 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA62WH500759 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:32:17 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA62Vc3W029297 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:31:38 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:32:17 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <3FA9B241.5928939D@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <20031105221859.16962.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> <3FA9B241.5928939D@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I assume that by the condo payment you mean the association fee or >whatever it is, but why are you making two mortgage payments? Are you >doing some kind of double-up thing -- like instead of officially having >a shorter loan period, you're just choosing to double the payments each >month? No. I did not have a 20% down payment, and I refuse to pay PMI - so I had to get a 2nd mortgage. B. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 20:57:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA62vO6q001163 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:57:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8D0CB1E601F4; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:52:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59FCC1E601EA for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:52:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A34A70@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:45:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14509068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:45:51 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA62jp502240 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:45:51 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.83]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031106024544.UPVZ1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:45:44 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA9B5D8.4DE77F82@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 20:45:44 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105162706.00bcfaf0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105162706.00bcfaf0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105205700.08a1b6d0@pop.gwi.net> <467678948.20031105200547@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > It gives the appearance of money being a very important consideration in > > all things. > > True--but money is much more important to me when I don't have than > when I do. Money is of course a top consideration of somebody who is poverty-stricken (or unemployed). But Bethany is not in that situation. I don't know what her income is, but I know that she is solidly middle-classed re income. Iow, she is not in a situation of having to think constantly about money and where her next meal is coming from. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 21:00:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA630W6q001199 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:00:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 41EA01E601EF; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:56:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1232E1E601EA for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:56:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A34A76@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:48:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14509237 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:48:59 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f110.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.110]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA62mx502583 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:48:59 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:48:53 -0800 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 02:48:53 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: winter, whiskey, and canned goods Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 21:48:53 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Nov 2003 02:48:53.0527 (UTC) FILETIME=[83DD8270:01C3A410] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thanks. >From: "clyde w. voigtlander" >No. They will freeze, expand, and burst. You won't enjoy the outcome. > >> Clearly we can't leave beer or wine, but what about whiskey? > >Whiskey, gin, voka, tequila, etc., yes. > >cwv _________________________________________________________________ Great deals on high-speed Internet access as low as $26.95. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 21:00:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA630c6q001202 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:00:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7D63F1E601EF; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:56:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E2C21E60172 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:56:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A34A85@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:49:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14509241 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:49:05 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA62n5502609 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:49:05 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.83]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031106024858.URJY1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:48:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA9B69A.362C15E6@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 20:48:58 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: YAY! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105173326.00bbadf8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105183417.089e84a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105201939.08a14b88@pop.gwi.net> <1671717041.20031105200729@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > and I could just turn off the air conditioner and open the windows to the > > freshening breeze. Ahhhhh. > > Why don't you live in Texas again???? I love the months and months > with no heat and no A/C. Bonniemae lived in Texas?? When? I agree with you totally about loving my many months of no heat or a/c. I turned on heat (for a couple of hours) during those strange cold days we had in early fall but of course turned it off quickly when those strange days ended. I can't remember how many weeks it's been now since I had need for heating or cooling. I know it's been a long time. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 21:01:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA631W6q001208 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:01:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 48CC51E601F4; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:57:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 161611E601EF for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:57:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D35B3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:49:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14509274 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:49:59 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA62nw502670 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:49:58 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.83]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031106024953.URVS1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:49:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA9B6D1.3A6FA916@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 20:49:53 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: YAY! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield wrote: > > > It was a good day! We should celebrate! > > We should, but we should celebrate more because it's John's birthday. Happy > birthday! I think it's because it's JMW's bday that my shoes and your cd's arrived. The gopods planeed it that way. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 21:02:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA63296q001219 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:02:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 76F9D1E601FE; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:57:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48B521E601F4 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:57:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A34A94@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:50:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14509287 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:50:36 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA62oa502729 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:50:36 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <20031106025029011003c97ae>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 02:50:29 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105182721.03463770@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 18:50:11 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: headphones In-Reply-To: <20031106011244.GB11893@words-l.org> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105080248.03b05900@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104201100.05ab2378@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105080248.03b05900@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog writes, >Any ideas about how to pull a cap on with one hand, given a bald head? Nah -- sounds tricky. Though it might involve pulling your ears up, instead of your cap down... Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 21:05:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA635F6q001243 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:05:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BA7401E601EA; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:00:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C9911E60172 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:00:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D35BC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:53:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14509367 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:53:41 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA62re502982 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:53:41 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2003110602533301200s2cq4e>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 02:53:34 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105185046.03656cd0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 18:53:13 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: The great averager In-Reply-To: <512773772.20031105203657@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105183132.035b4808@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105183132.035b4808@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay writes, >Interesting "latest photo"... Yeah, the blur doesn't necessarily obscure as much as it should... Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 21:05:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA635i6q001274 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:05:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E7E231E601EF; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:01:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B92281E60172 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:01:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D35BE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:54:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14509386 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:54:10 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA62s9503030 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:54:09 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA62s6YB015240 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:54:09 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:54:40 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <160351984.20031105205440@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <3FA9B5D8.4DE77F82@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105162706.00bcfaf0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105162706.00bcfaf0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105205700.08a1b6d0@pop.gwi.net> <467678948.20031105200547@WordWrite.com> <3FA9B5D8.4DE77F82@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 05, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Money is of course a top consideration of somebody who is > poverty-stricken (or unemployed). Exactly--but not wealthy people. > Iow, she is not in a situation of > having to think constantly about money and where her next meal is coming > from. She's planning for her retirement, I thought? (Also, I think she thinks it's fun.) Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 21:07:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA63736q001295 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:07:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9EF5E1E601EF; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:02:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D9881E601EA for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:02:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A34A9D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:55:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14509413 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:55:30 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA62tU503163 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:55:30 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA62tTYB019504 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:55:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:56:02 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1877362825.20031105205602@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: YAY! In-Reply-To: <3FA9B69A.362C15E6@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105173326.00bbadf8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105183417.089e84a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105201939.08a14b88@pop.gwi.net> <1671717041.20031105200729@WordWrite.com> <3FA9B69A.362C15E6@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 05, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> Why don't you live in Texas again???? I love the months and months >> with no heat and no A/C. > Bonniemae lived in Texas?? When? No. > I agree with you totally about loving > my many months of no heat or a/c. You are colder than I am, though. Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 21:09:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA639q6q001326 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:09:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 28C4F1E601F4; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:05:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAAFC1E601EA for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:05:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A34A98@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:58:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14509187 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:58:19 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA62mJ502482 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:48:19 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA62le3W000807 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:47:40 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:48:19 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <3FA9B29F.8177053C@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105162706.00bcfaf0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105162706.00bcfaf0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105173221.00bc8840@pop.gwi.net> <3FA9B29F.8177053C@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> >Your artwork. >> >> Oh. The pieces I have not given away, right? > >I assume she meant the ones you were talking about recently as being >highly valuable -- the ones you took special care with moving and hung >outside your door to make your entrance elegant. Oh, those - those are of little monetary value. They are Monet prints, framed reasonably well, but not particulary valuable for any reason. I hung them there because Iike them, because there are other Monet prints on the floor, etc. B. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 21:11:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA63BF6q001341 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:11:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AD9DA1E601EA; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:06:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EF1A1E60172 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:06:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D35B2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:59:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14509526 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:59:41 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA62xf503410 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:59:41 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.83]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031106025936.UWHO1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:59:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA9B918.9F18171D@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 20:59:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections References: <20031105221859.16962.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> <3FA9B241.5928939D@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > No. I did not have a 20% down payment, and I refuse to pay PMI - so I had > to get a 2nd mortgage. The rumors of Bethany's wealth have been greatly exaggerated. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 21:11:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA63Be6q001344 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:11:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 51FB51E601EA; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:07:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22DF51E60172 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:07:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A34AAC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:00:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14509281 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:00:07 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA62o7502707 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:50:07 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA62nS3W001063 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:49:28 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:50:06 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <1779166247.20031105203543@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <22635064.20031105194813@WordWrite.com> <1779166247.20031105203543@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >> I am talking about voluntary obedience and poverty - and I assume >> that bonnie is, too. Voluntary obedience would be very difficult to >> sustain, I think, in a situation where one could, for any reason, escape >> the situation. Money permits that escape. > >But it doesn't require it. > >I think this statement says far more about you than about obedience >vows, frankly, and I find it extraordinary. It's certainly an odd view >of marriage, for one thing. Interesting. What does it say about me, exactly? And how did marriage get in here? I was talking about vows of poverty and obedience. B. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 21:12:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA63C56q001351 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:12:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BCE661E60172; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:07:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D2A21E601EA for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:07:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A34A9B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:00:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14509641 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:00:31 -0500 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA630V503568 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:00:31 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 19:00:30 PST Message-ID: <20031106030030.33338.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:00:30 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: autumn and all that... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105184140.00b63698@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > It is a peaceful time. The crowds are gone; the > locals are smiling; and > the few tourists seem a bit nervous and uncertain > (partly, of course, > because all of the shops are closed tightly). The > park has announced that > main park roads will close with the first > substantial snowfall or Veteran/s > Day, whichever comes first. We already have seen > snow atop Cadillac---at > least on the north slopes---and just missed some > sort of mixed > ice/sleet/rain last night. > > Anyhow, some of our autumn rambles are pictured at: > > http://community.webshots.com/user/cwvoigt > > under Autumn in Acadia. Lovely photos. Is the water in the Tarn and the Featherbed brackish? I mean, does it ever freeze over completely? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 21:12:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA63CY6q001364 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:12:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7C0691E60172; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:08:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B9AC1E601FE for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:08:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A34A9C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:01:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14509301 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:01:01 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA62p1502775 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:51:01 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA62oM3W001213 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:50:22 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:51:00 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <3FA9B447.DB1BE025@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105162706.00bcfaf0@pop.gwi.net> <1762882111.20031105195041@WordWrite.com> <3FA9B447.DB1BE025@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> She negotiates for everything--does that give the appearance of >> wealth? > >I have never gotten the impression that Bethany was wealthy. I have >gotten the impression that she thinks quite a bit about money -- that it >is something very important to her. What it allows is far more important to me. B. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 21:15:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA63FD6q001388 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:15:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B21471E601EA; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:10:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E71C1E60172 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:10:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D35C7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:03:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14509706 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:03:39 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f50.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.50]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA633E503801 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:03:14 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:03:08 -0800 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 03:03:08 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: autumn and all that... Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 22:03:08 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Nov 2003 03:03:08.0696 (UTC) FILETIME=[8195F180:01C3A412] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Great account, fine pictures. It is a beautiful part of the world. >From: "clyde w. voigtlander" >in that sort of middle ground between the highly colored autumn and the >stark white and black of winter. The weather is playing its >part---yesterday was rainy and misty, today began decently but ended with a >cold rain. The old saying around here is that winter can't begin until the >ponds are full. On that basis, wintah could come any time now. > >It is a peaceful time. The crowds are gone; the locals are smiling; and >the few tourists seem a bit nervous and uncertain (partly, of course, >because all of the shops are closed tightly). The park has announced that >main park roads will close with the first substantial snowfall or Veteran/s >Day, whichever comes first. We already have seen snow atop Cadillac---at >least on the north slopes---and just missed some sort of mixed >ice/sleet/rain last night. > >Anyhow, some of our autumn rambles are pictured at: > >http://community.webshots.com/user/cwvoigt > >under Autumn in Acadia. > >cwv _________________________________________________________________ Crave some Miles Davis or Grateful Dead? Your old favorites are always playing on MSN Radio Plus. Trial month free! http://join.msn.com/?page=offers/premiumradio From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 21:15:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA63Fe6q001398 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:15:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3595E1E601FE; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:11:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06E4A1E601F4 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:11:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A34AAF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:04:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14509723 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:04:07 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6347503872 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:04:07 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.83]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031106030401.UYHP1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:04:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA9BA21.95E90AA8@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 21:04:01 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105162706.00bcfaf0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105162706.00bcfaf0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105173221.00bc8840@pop.gwi.net> <3FA9B29F.8177053C@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >I assume she meant the ones you were talking about recently as being > >highly valuable -- the ones you took special care with moving and hung > >outside your door to make your entrance elegant. > > Oh, those - those are of little monetary value. They are Monet prints, > framed reasonably well, but not particulary valuable for any reason. I > hung them there because Iike them, because there are other Monet prints > on the floor, etc. Ah so. I had gotten the impression from things you were saying re the move that they were originals. I thought you had said something about valuable artwork. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 21:16:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA63GI6q001402 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:16:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B46831E601FE; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:11:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 828261E601F4 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:11:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A34AA2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:04:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14509746 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:04:44 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA634i503933 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:04:44 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA634fYB018506 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:04:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:05:14 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1783183564.20031105210514@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <22635064.20031105194813@WordWrite.com> <1779166247.20031105203543@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 05, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >>> I am talking about voluntary obedience and poverty - and I assume >>> that bonnie is, too. Voluntary obedience would be very difficult to >>> sustain, I think, in a situation where one could, for any reason, escape >>> the situation. Money permits that escape. >> >>But it doesn't require it. >> >>I think this statement says far more about you than about obedience >>vows, frankly, and I find it extraordinary. It's certainly an odd view >>of marriage, for one thing. > Interesting. What does it say about me, exactly? That you can't think of any reason to stay if you have money to leave. It makes me wonder about your celibacy vow. > And how did marriage get > in here? I was talking about vows of poverty and obedience. Marriage vows used to require obedience. Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 21:17:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA63Hr6q001413 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:17:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 282131E601FE; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:13:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB071E60172 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:13:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D35D1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:06:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14509798 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:06:10 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6365504047 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:06:05 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.83]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031106030600.UZFB1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:06:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA9BA98.F3C758AF@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 21:06:00 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <22635064.20031105194813@WordWrite.com> <1779166247.20031105203543@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >I think this statement says far more about you than about obedience > >vows, frankly, and I find it extraordinary. It's certainly an odd view > >of marriage, for one thing. > > Interesting. What does it say about me, exactly? And how did marriage get > in here? I was talking about vows of poverty and obedience. Oh good. I thought my alzheimerish brain had just blipped again. I also wondered where marriage got into the thread but didn't ask since I assumed I had lost it in a brain blip. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 21:28:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA63SC6q001595 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:28:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E97511E6020B; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:23:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B44261E601F4 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:23:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A34AD7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:15:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14510030 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:15:56 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA63Fu504613 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:15:56 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.83]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031106031551.VEEZ1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:15:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA9BCE6.5C381FA6@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 21:15:50 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105162706.00bcfaf0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105162706.00bcfaf0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105205700.08a1b6d0@pop.gwi.net> <467678948.20031105200547@WordWrite.com> <3FA9B5D8.4DE77F82@maynor.net> <160351984.20031105205440@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > On Wednesday, November 05, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Money is of course a top consideration of somebody who is > > poverty-stricken (or unemployed). > > Exactly--but not wealthy people. Actually, I think that the people most likely to be obsessed with money are the very rich and the very poor. The poor (including unemployed) have to be because it's a matter of survival. The very rich (not necessarily all of them but I would guess many of them) because that's what they're into -- it's their . Bethany does not fit into either of those categories, afaik. So she would be the anamolous though certainly not unique case of somebody between those two extremes but still fascinated by or obsessed with money. > > Iow, she is not in a situation of > > having to think constantly about money and where her next meal is coming > > from. > > She's planning for her retirement, I thought? (Also, I think she > thinks it's fun.) Yes, re the fun. And that's ok. Re planning for retirement -- who isn't (or at least who over thirty or so isn't)? Some of the things Bethany has said on that subject have also made me think that she is not -- things like when we were talking about the costs (projected future costs) of nursing homes and she said, "But you would have to have $X to make it!" -- with X being an amount that I would think most middle-classed people over fifty would have. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 21:29:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA63TJ6q001609 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:29:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DB2141E6020A; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:24:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A12241E60206 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:24:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A34ADE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:17:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14509857 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:17:40 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA637E504149 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:07:14 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA636Y3W005412 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:06:35 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:07:12 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <3FA9BA21.95E90AA8@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105162706.00bcfaf0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105162706.00bcfaf0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105173221.00bc8840@pop.gwi.net> <3FA9B29F.8177053C@maynor.net> <3FA9BA21.95E90AA8@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Ah so. I had gotten the impression from things you were saying re the >move that they were originals. I thought you had said something about >valuable artwork. I do own a few valuable pieces - but I have given away the most valuable ones. B. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 21:30:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA63Ud6q001620 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:30:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 350CD1E6020A; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:26:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 010181E60206 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:26:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A34ACD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:19:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14510182 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:19:06 -0500 Received: from imo-r01.mx.aol.com (imo-r01.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.97]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA63J6505009 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:19:06 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1c5.10abf2fb (4539) for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:18:49 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1c5.10abf2fb.2cdb1799@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:18:49 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] New Dog To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/5/2003 6:45:25 PM Central Standard Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << Did you discuss your earlier dog situation with the shelter people -- telling them about Daisy? I hope so since that could help them advise you on whether this dog is the right dog for you. >> No, we thought it was best not to mention Daisy. We just told them that we need a small, gentle dog to keep Mom company. They took one look at Mom and showed us the small ones. There was one dog I wish we could have adopted, he was so cute, but his bark was so loud and piercing that we knew the people in the other apartments would complain. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Trying to make sense of the latest Big O From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 21:31:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA63V76q001623 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:31:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EC75E1E60206; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:26:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBF7C1E601FF for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:26:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A34ADC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:19:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14509924 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:19:34 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA639X504250 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:09:33 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA638s3W006095 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:08:54 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:09:32 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <1783183564.20031105210514@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <22635064.20031105194813@WordWrite.com> <1779166247.20031105203543@WordWrite.com> <1783183564.20031105210514@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >>>> I am talking about voluntary obedience and poverty - and I assume >>>> that bonnie is, too. Voluntary obedience would be very difficult to >>>> sustain, I think, in a situation where one could, for any reason, escape >>>> the situation. Money permits that escape. >>> >>>But it doesn't require it. >>> >>>I think this statement says far more about you than about obedience >>>vows, frankly, and I find it extraordinary. It's certainly an odd view >>>of marriage, for one thing. > >> Interesting. What does it say about me, exactly? > >That you can't think of any reason to stay if you have money to leave. >It makes me wonder about your celibacy vow. Of course, I was not talking about ME - I was talking about why I think that in general poverty and obedience makes more sense practiced together. > >> And how did marriage get >> in here? I was talking about vows of poverty and obedience. >Marriage vows used to require obedience. True - but I was not discussing marriage. I have given no of marriage. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 21:32:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA63W46q001626 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:32:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6A1F01E60215; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:27:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C9AD1E6020A for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:27:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A34ADD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:20:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14510211 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:20:24 -0500 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA63KN505115 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:20:23 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 19:20:23 PST Message-ID: <20031106032023.6085.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:20:23 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: octopuses get erections To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FA9B918.9F18171D@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > > No. I did not have a 20% down payment, and I > refuse to pay PMI - so I had > > to get a 2nd mortgage. > > The rumors of Bethany's wealth have been greatly > exaggerated. Imho, money is part of a glorious game for B. She delights in negotiation, not just for the money saved, but for the expertise involved. Any lucre-related matters (real estate, for example) add chunks of satisfaction to the game. Of course, the freedoms that the success of the game can buy are especially sweet. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 21:33:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA63X56q001641 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:33:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1CDA21E6020B; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:28:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0A091E601FF for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:28:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A34AEB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:21:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14510241 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:21:32 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA63LV505232 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:21:31 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.83]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031106032126.VHBA1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:21:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3FA9BE36.441CE4D9@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 21:21:26 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: YAY! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105173326.00bbadf8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105183417.089e84a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105201939.08a14b88@pop.gwi.net> <1671717041.20031105200729@WordWrite.com> <3FA9B69A.362C15E6@maynor.net> <1877362825.20031105205602@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > >> Why don't you live in Texas again???? I love the months and months > >> with no heat and no A/C. > > > Bonniemae lived in Texas?? When? > > No. I can tell that it's time to log off. I'm confused. What did your "again" mean? > > I agree with you totally about loving > > my many months of no heat or a/c. > > You are colder than I am, though. Yes, I am in a colder climate than you are in. But I don't see how that changes the number of months without heating/cooling. It makes them different months -- like when I don't need a/c, you do, when you don't need heat, I do. That's one thing I've always found weird about people talking about the glories of wherever they live re not needing heating or cooling. With some exceptions (though not the places these people are from), it's just a matter of the time of year. I have open windows for a good many months every year, but they aren't the same months that Bonnie and Clyde have open windows, etc. etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 21:35:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA63ZJ6q001650 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:35:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 079A11E601FF; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:30:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3CD21E6020B for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:30:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A34AF3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:23:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14510319 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:23:46 -0500 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA63Nj505398 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:23:45 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 19:23:45 PST Message-ID: <20031106032345.6478.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:23:45 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: octopuses get erections To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >Ah so. I had gotten the impression from things you > were saying re the > >move that they were originals. I thought you had > said something about > >valuable artwork. > > I do own a few valuable pieces - but I have given > away the most valuable > ones. These gifts being deductible, of course. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 21:41:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA63fm6q001756 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:41:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D4C421E60173; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:37:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A535B1E60163 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:37:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A34AFF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:30:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14510500 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:30:14 -0500 Received: from web20503.mail.yahoo.com (web20503.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.138]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA63UE505898 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:30:14 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 19:30:13 PST Message-ID: <20031106033013.80414.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:30:13 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: New Dog To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1c5.10abf2fb.2cdb1799@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > > No, we thought it was best not to mention Daisy. We > just told them > that we need a small, gentle dog to keep Mom > company. They took > one look at Mom and showed us the small ones. > > There was one dog I wish we could have adopted, he > was so cute, > but his bark was so loud and piercing that we knew > the people in > the other apartments would complain. It's been my experience that shelter folks are uniquely expert at matching dogs with people. I'm sure they pointed you in the right direction. But if it were me, I think I'd set some ground rules with Mom before the dog is actually picked up. Wonder what Sweetie will think? > > Evelyn Duncan > brandykitt@aol.com > Trying to make sense of the latest Big O __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 21:42:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA63gH6q001760 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:42:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2AE651E60206; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:37:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF5601E601FF for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:37:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D366B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:30:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14510529 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:30:44 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA63Uh505938 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:30:43 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-243.gwi.net [216.195.157.243]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA63UeAt089273; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:30:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105222612.00b643a0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 22:28:49 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: autumn and all that... In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105184140.00b63698@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:10 PM 11/5/2003 -0500, Adam Hartfield wrote: >Very nice pictures. I guess it was really hazy the day I went up to the top >of the mountain. Yes---as I recall, the days around the 4th were somewhat hazy---probably a combination of humidity and some ozone pollution from the west. The day I hiked down the Cadillac South Ridge was windy and mild (maybe 65 F at most) and fairly clear. Likewise the days that the later photos were taken. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 21:43:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA63hA6q001789 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:43:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 371AA1E60181; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:38:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 063CF1E60163 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:38:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D3689@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:31:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14510573 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:31:37 -0500 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA63Va506035 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:31:37 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 19:31:36 PST Message-ID: <20031106033136.99437.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:31:36 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: YAY! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FA9BE36.441CE4D9@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: > > >> Why don't you live in Texas again???? I love > the months and months > > >> with no heat and no A/C. > > > > > Bonniemae lived in Texas?? When? > > > > No. > > I can tell that it's time to log off. I'm confused. > What did your > "again" mean? Bethany lived in Texas. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 21:46:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA63k86q001853 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:46:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AEAC71E60181; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:41:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D4641E60173 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:41:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A34AEE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:34:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14510623 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:34:34 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA63YY506227 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:34:34 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-243.gwi.net [216.195.157.243]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA63YVAt089508; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:34:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105222858.00b78b80@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 22:31:10 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: autumn and all that... In-Reply-To: <20031106030030.33338.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105184140.00b63698@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:00 PM 11/5/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >Lovely photos. Is the water in the Tarn and the >Featherbed brackish? I mean, does it ever freeze over >completely? Both are completely fresh water and both freeze in the winter. Actually, last winter, the bay (which is of course salwater) also froze over. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 21:50:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA63oc6q001939 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:50:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C51861E60173; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:46:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92ACC1E60163 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:46:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A34B19@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:39:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14510791 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:39:04 -0500 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA63d4506741 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:39:04 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 19:39:03 PST Message-ID: <20031106033903.20099.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:39:03 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: autumn and all that... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105222858.00b78b80@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > Both are completely fresh water and both freeze in > the winter. Actually, > last winter, the bay (which is of course salwater) > also froze over. Wow. There is a story that Barnegat Bay in New Jersey once froze over, the ice being thick enough to bear the weight of a truck. This is a huge expanse of salt water, and the story is prolly apocryphal, but I like to imagine it. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 21:52:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA63qn6q001968 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:52:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0B3391E601FF; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:48:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD2C71E60181 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:48:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A34B0C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:41:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14510920 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:41:16 -0500 Received: from imo-m03.mx.aol.com (imo-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.6]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA63fF506993 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:41:15 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.ce.3fd59d09 (2612) for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:41:05 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:41:05 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] New Dog To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/5/2003 9:30:57 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << But if it were me, I think I'd set some ground rules with Mom before the dog is actually picked up. >> Yep, no returning this dog; he's here to stay. Don't know what Sweetie will think, but they're the same size this time. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Trying to make sense of the latest Big O From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 21:56:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA63uP6q002026 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:56:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AC6011E60181; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:51:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DFCE1E60173 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:51:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A34B16@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:44:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14511015 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:44:51 -0500 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA63ip507177 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:44:51 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 19:44:50 PST Message-ID: <20031106034450.1016.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:44:50 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: New Dog To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > Yep, no returning this dog; he's here to stay. YaY for Evelyn. > Don't know what Sweetie will think, but they're the > same size this time. That gives Sweetie a built-in advantage. Now I can't wait until you get the little varmint. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 21:58:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA63wH6q002033 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:58:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 33FAD1E60173; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:53:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB61C1E60163 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:53:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A34B3C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:46:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14511114 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:46:44 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA63kh507373 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:46:44 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-195.gwi.net [216.195.152.195]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA63kgGn070276 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:46:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105223457.08a17730@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 22:35:32 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105173221.00bc8840@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105162706.00bcfaf0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105162706.00bcfaf0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105173221.00bc8840@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Your artwork. > >Oh. The pieces I have not given away, right? >Bethany The ones that had to be moved specially and separately to your new spacious condo. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 21:58:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA63wI6q002036 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:58:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4AE731E60181; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:53:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D54C1E60173 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:53:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A34B22@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:46:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14511120 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:46:45 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA63kj507379 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:46:45 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-195.gwi.net [216.195.152.195]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA63kgGp070276 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:46:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105223922.08a22280@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 22:43:26 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: YAY! In-Reply-To: <1671717041.20031105200729@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105201939.08a14b88@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105173326.00bbadf8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105183417.089e84a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105201939.08a14b88@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >And at night I wouldn't be > > dependent on the sea breeze to cool the house. It would already be cool > > and I could just turn off the air conditioner and open the windows to the > > freshening breeze. Ahhhhh. > >Why don't you live in Texas again???? I love the months and months >with no heat and no A/C. --Karen, >Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... "Texas again"?? I've never lived in Texas, thank the good lord. In Tennessee one went almost directly from heat to air-conditioning. I think we ran the central air-conditioning from mid-May to late September. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 21:58:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA63wK6q002039 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:58:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E2A341E60173; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:53:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B21FA1E60163 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:53:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A34B23@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:46:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14511127 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:46:46 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA63kk507394 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:46:46 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-195.gwi.net [216.195.152.195]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA63kgGr070276 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:46:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105224429.08a1d958@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 22:46:46 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: References: <22635064.20031105194813@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <22635064.20031105194813@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I am talking about voluntary obedience and poverty - and I assume >that bonnie is, too. Voluntary obedience would be very difficult to >sustain, I think, in a situation where one could, for any reason, escape >the situation. Money permits that escape. > >Voluntary poverty practiced for its own sake - not in obedience to what >one perceives to be a calling or ministry - doesn't make any sense to me. > >(In the sense that I am talking about them, poverty and obedience >are practiced in community, of course.) > >Bonnie? > >Bethany Yes? What am I required to comment on? The community part? Yes, we practiced poverty and chastity and obedience voluntarily in community. Note that this was all 36+ years ago and I was a mere babe of age 14 to 22 at the time. In many ways, I don't even remember it all that well. I think I was a completely different person then. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 22:02:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA642F6q002131 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:02:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 327FA1E60181; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:57:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 038D61E60173 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:57:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A34B40@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:50:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14511379 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:50:32 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA63oW507749 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:50:32 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-195.gwi.net [216.195.152.195]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA63oUAr090728 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:50:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105224838.08a2b548@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 22:50:34 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <1779166247.20031105203543@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <22635064.20031105194813@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Voluntary poverty practiced for its own sake - not in obedience to what > > one perceives to be a calling or ministry - doesn't make any sense to me. It does to me. I think detachment from hankering of all kinds is a goal in and of itself, carrying its own reward of peace in one's soul. I aspire to it. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 22:02:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA642r6q002143 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:02:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 301B41E60173; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:58:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F29BE1E60181 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:58:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A34B51@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:51:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14511413 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:51:20 -0500 Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA63pJ507822 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:51:19 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.18.37955ad3 (2612) for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:51:04 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <18.37955ad3.2cdb1f27@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:51:03 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] New Dog To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/5/2003 9:45:36 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << Now I can't wait until you get the little varmint. >> Me, too! Now I can study the dog book you sent. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Trying to make sense of the latest Big O From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 22:10:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA64AT6q002303 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:10:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0DE051E60181; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:06:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0C511E60173 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:05:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A34B96@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:58:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14512054 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:58:53 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA63wq508664 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:58:52 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-195.gwi.net [216.195.152.195]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA63wpAr091365 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:58:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105225545.08a25228@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 22:58:55 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: autumn and all that... In-Reply-To: <20031106030030.33338.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105184140.00b63698@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Is the water in the Tarn and the Featherbed brackish? I mean, does it >ever freeze over >completely? Brackish as in salt water? Your second sentence doesn't have much to do with your first sentence. Salt water freezes over completely if it gets cold enough. In any case, mountain lakes such at The Tarn and The Featherbed are not salt water. They have no connection with the ocean, being on top of mountains. And, yes, both The Tarn and The Featherbed freeze over completely. Our first winter here I ice-skated on The Tarn. There is a story of a mystic who danced with the vision of a bear on the frozen Featherbed. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 22:24:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA64OS6q002450 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:24:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5697A1E60175; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:20:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EF111E60173 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:20:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A34CB4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 23:12:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14514432 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 23:12:54 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA64Cs510873 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 23:12:54 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA64Cqlt026899 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:12:53 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:13:29 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <984416049.20031105221329@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <3FA9BCE6.5C381FA6@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105162706.00bcfaf0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105162706.00bcfaf0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105205700.08a1b6d0@pop.gwi.net> <467678948.20031105200547@WordWrite.com> <3FA9B5D8.4DE77F82@maynor.net> <160351984.20031105205440@WordWrite.com> <3FA9BCE6.5C381FA6@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 05, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Re planning for retirement -- who isn't (or at least who over thirty > or so isn't)? Poor people. > with X being an amount that I would think most > middle-classed people over fifty would have. LOL. Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 22:27:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA64R86q002470 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:27:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1CC551E60181; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:22:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA3A71E60175 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:22:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A34CD5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 23:15:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14514503 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 23:15:35 -0500 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA64FY511084 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 23:15:34 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 20:15:33 PST Message-ID: <20031106041533.16336.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:15:33 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: autumn and all that... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105225545.08a25228@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: > >Is the water in the Tarn and the Featherbed > brackish? I mean, does it > >ever freeze over > >completely? Our first winter here I > ice-skated on The > Tarn. There is a story of a mystic who danced with > the vision of a bear on > the frozen Featherbed. Yes, my question was prompted by curiosity about ice-skating. In some areas of the country, inland lakes off of bays, etc., are brackish, thus do not freeze as readily as fresh water. I was wondering if the joys of the sea could be combined with the pleasure of skating in the winters. Do you have to be a mystic to dance with a vision? > > > bonnie __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 22:28:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA64SO6q002512 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:28:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CD8161E6020A; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:23:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97FD51E601FF for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:23:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A34CCD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 23:16:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14514548 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 23:16:50 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA64Go511202 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 23:16:50 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA64GnYB028960 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:16:50 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:17:27 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1012431011.20031105221727@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: YAY! In-Reply-To: <3FA9BE36.441CE4D9@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105173326.00bbadf8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105183417.089e84a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105201939.08a14b88@pop.gwi.net> <1671717041.20031105200729@WordWrite.com> <3FA9B69A.362C15E6@maynor.net> <1877362825.20031105205602@WordWrite.com> <3FA9BE36.441CE4D9@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 05, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> >> Why don't you live in Texas again???? I love the months and months >> >> with no heat and no A/C. >> >> > Bonniemae lived in Texas?? When? >> >> No. > I can tell that it's time to log off. I'm confused. What did your > "again" mean? Good question! I suppose it's a misplaced modifier, but "Why, again,..." is pedantic. What I wrote is how I would say it in conversation. > Yes, I am in a colder climate than you are in. But I don't see how that > changes the number of months without heating/cooling. Uh, okay. Then we won't discuss it further. Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 22:31:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA64V36q002580 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:31:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 82B631E60206; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:26:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 479731E601FF for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:26:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A34CDD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 23:19:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14514592 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 23:19:29 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA64JT511429 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 23:19:29 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA64JRYB002538 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:19:27 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:20:05 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <536971659.20031105222005@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: YAY! In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105223922.08a22280@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105201939.08a14b88@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105173326.00bbadf8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105183417.089e84a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105201939.08a14b88@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105223922.08a22280@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 05, 2003, bonniev wrote: > "Texas again"?? I've never lived in Texas, thank the good lord. I'm tempted to make a Harwellian comment, but I'll refrain. > In Tennessee one went almost directly from heat to air-conditioning. > I think we ran the central air-conditioning from mid-May to late > September. Well, Tennessee and Texas both begin with T, but I don't think their weather is similar. Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 5 23:07:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA657K6q002986 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 23:07:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8EC311E60206; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 23:02:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C4341E60176 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 23:02:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D39C6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 23:55:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14518093 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 23:55:46 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA64tj514665 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 23:55:46 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 2D0B42B8EC; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:55:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B44E2B8E6 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:55:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:55:44 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Diegetic Mutant Ho In-Reply-To: <20031106012354.GE11893@words-l.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU That's how my Pine inbox truncates you-know-who's nom de whore. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 00:25:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA66Pu6q003730 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 00:25:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 73A2F1E6017D; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 00:21:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D0661E6017A for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 00:21:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A35100@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 1:14:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14523680 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 01:14:21 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA66EK523057 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 01:14:21 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA66EHe6016982 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 00:14:18 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000801c3a42d$30d73680$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Home Again Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 00:13:58 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hA66Pu6q003730 I am home from Texas and, as usual, have deleted all my digests because they are weird and all enclosed in attachments. So if you said anything really really important somebody say so. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 06:17:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6CHa6q006951 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 06:17:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8FEFB1E601A0; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 06:13:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D20C1E6019D for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 06:13:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A353F7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 7:05:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14531096 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 07:05:59 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6C5w504914 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 07:05:58 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.165.57]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031106120553.GADN1852.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 07:05:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAA3921.5C1A79AC@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 06:05:53 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: YAY! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105201939.08a14b88@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105173326.00bbadf8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105183417.089e84a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105201939.08a14b88@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105223922.08a22280@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Tennessee one went almost directly from heat to air-conditioning. I think > we ran the central air-conditioning from mid-May to late September. I know people who never open their windows, some because of allergies, some because houses don't get as dusty, some because they just don't like natural air. I could never live like that. I've never kept a journal of opened/closed window days, but my guess is that it would be about 50-50 for me. (I would have windows open even more often if it weren't so much trouble fooling with the recalcitrant storm windows, etc. Sometimes I just leave them shut when I know that I'll need to shut them again pretty soon.) Anyway, there are many whole months when I have no need of heating or cooling -- most of March, all of April, most or all of May, part of September, all of October, much of November, parts of December, plus various other off-and-on times. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) sitting beside an open window watching the pink glow of dawn From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 06:19:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6CJi6q006966 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 06:19:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1CDA81E601A9; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 06:15:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDA2C1E601A3 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 06:15:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A353FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 7:08:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14531136 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 07:08:07 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6C87505110 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 07:08:07 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.165.57]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031106120801.GAON1852.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 07:08:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAA39A2.A00377C1@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 06:08:02 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Diegetic Mutant Ho References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin wrote: > > That's how my Pine inbox truncates you-know-who's nom de whore. I noticed that one of my recent penis-enlargement offers was from somebody named Angela Ho. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 06:21:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6CLl6q006977 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 06:21:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B183E1E601A0; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 06:17:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ECEB1E6019D for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 06:17:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A353FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 7:10:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14531162 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 07:10:10 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6CAA505261 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 07:10:10 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.165.57]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031106121004.GAZW1852.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 07:10:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAA3A1C.E3697FA2@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 06:10:04 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Home Again References: <000801c3a42d$30d73680$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > I am home from Texas and, as usual, have deleted all my digests because they are weird > and all enclosed in attachments. So if you said anything really really important somebody say so. Welcome home! Lots of important utterances were made, but I can't remember now what they were. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 06:34:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6CYf6q007139 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 06:34:42 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 040761E601A9; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 06:30:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C54401E601A7 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 06:30:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3540F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 7:23:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14531443 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 07:23:04 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6CN3507123 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 07:23:04 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hA6CN2kF029341 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:23:02 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hA6CN1L5029339 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:23:01 +0100 Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:23:01 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: YAY! Message-ID: <20031106122301.GA29212@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200311051926.hA5JQWci004906@ra.msstate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200311051926.hA5JQWci004906@ra.msstate.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor: = My Birkenstocks arrived today. I was beginning to worry since I had = ordered them August 30. = --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) Oh good. I was beginning to worry too, as I was the one who suggested you order them from there, but I hadn't actually ordered anything from them yet myself. I guess they really did take the slow boat. I at least shouldn't have that problem. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 06:47:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6Cl96q007213 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 06:47:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B13041E601A9; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 06:42:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 837241E601A7 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 06:42:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D3ED8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 7:35:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14531531 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 07:35:32 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6CPW507383 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 07:25:32 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA6COk3W001839 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 07:24:53 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 07:25:25 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <20031106032345.6478.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031106032345.6478.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >> I do own a few valuable pieces - but I have given >> away the most valuable >> ones. > >These gifts being deductible, of course. You bet! To play the game, you must know the rules. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 06:50:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6Co86q007232 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 06:50:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C02561E601A9; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 06:45:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DE2D1E601A7 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 06:45:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A35444@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 7:38:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14531604 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 07:38:31 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6CSV507639 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 07:28:31 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA6CRq3W002315 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 07:27:52 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 07:28:31 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105223457.08a17730@pop.gwi.net> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105173221.00bc8840@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105162706.00bcfaf0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105162706.00bcfaf0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105173221.00bc8840@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105223457.08a17730@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, bonniev wrote: >> >Your artwork. >> >>Oh. The pieces I have not given away, right? >>Bethany > >The ones that had to be moved specially and separately to your new >spacious condo. I moved specially and separately everything in a frame and every work of art, no matter its value, that could be scratched/marred, About half my paintings were painted by family members - their value is not financial. B. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 06:52:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6CqH6q007247 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 06:52:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0E7481E60211; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 06:47:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C63481E601A9 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 06:47:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A35465@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 7:40:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14531659 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 07:40:39 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6CUd507764 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 07:30:39 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA6CU03W002668 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 07:30:00 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 07:30:38 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105224838.08a2b548@pop.gwi.net> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <22635064.20031105194813@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105224838.08a2b548@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, bonniev wrote: >> > Voluntary poverty practiced for its own sake - not in obedience to what >> > one perceives to be a calling or ministry - doesn't make any sense to me. > >It does to me. I think detachment from hankering of all kinds is a goal in >and of itself, carrying its own reward of peace in one's soul. I aspire to it. Ah - I do not equate poverty with the kind of detachment you describe. If I am too poor to afford medical treatment I am unlikley to be detached from pain. B. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 06:58:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6Cwr6q007305 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 06:58:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DC0781E601A9; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 06:54:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD5E71E601A0 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 06:54:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A35465@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 7:47:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14531943 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 07:47:16 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6CbG508460 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 07:37:16 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA6Cab3W003617 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 07:36:37 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 07:37:16 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <160351984.20031105205440@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105162706.00bcfaf0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105162706.00bcfaf0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105205700.08a1b6d0@pop.gwi.net> <467678948.20031105200547@WordWrite.com> <3FA9B5D8.4DE77F82@maynor.net> <160351984.20031105205440@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >She's planning for her retirement, I thought? (Also, I think she >thinks it's fun.) Correct - I do enjoy it all. It all started in 1995, when I suddenly owed the IRS $16,000 - having expected to owe them $4,000. The game was serious. It was basically earn about $1000 more per month immediately or move to Brazil. I did have to take a few withdrawals from annuities, but for the most part, I earned the additional money. I am grateful to the IRS ... and then there is retirement ... I joined an investment club just a few months before the market crash - I have learned a whole lot since then. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 07:01:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6D176q007325 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 07:01:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D93651E601A9; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 06:56:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB4BB1E601A0 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 06:56:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3547A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 7:49:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14532348 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 07:49:30 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA6CnU509913 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 07:49:30 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 07:49:30 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 07:49:04 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: reading and remembering Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hA6D176q007325 Theo, You attribute words to me that I did not write. BrP >>> Dutchessg1@AOL.COM 11/05/03 04:06PM >>> In a message dated 11/5/2003 1:57:39 PM, Prbarfoo@SYR.EDU writes: >However, my sister remembers things from when she was a baby, and I would >pretty much corroborate the theory that I only remember things from about >the time that I began to read. Earlier memories are just blurs of color >or scent. > My memory is earlier than when I could read. Strangely enough though, I don't remember the time I lost the tip of one finger in my mother's clothes wringer, although other events that occurred around the same time, I DO remember. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 07:30:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6DUD6q007682 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 07:30:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D0BC11E601A0; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 07:25:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A15A01E6019E for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 07:25:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D3F99@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 8:18:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14533562 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 08:18:35 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6DIY513320 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 08:18:35 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:20:23 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id VR1B30B2; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:20:18 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031106141630.025ea760@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 14:18:26 +0100 Subject: Re: winter, whiskey, and canned goods In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 17:37 05.11.2003 -0500 skrev Marty Rosen: >On Monday we close on our draft evader's cottage in Meldrum Bay. Later in >the month we'll be up there to do a little work, take inventory, measure >some rooms, install ceiling fans, drop off some supplies, build a wood shed, >and so forth. > >I have a question about storing canned goods. Can we safely leave cans of >green beans and the like in an unheated cottage through the frozen depths of >winter? Or is doing so a recipe for explosions and and a messy spring >clean-up? Clearly we can't leave beer or wine, but what about whiskey? I have never seen any problems with cans in below-freezing-places. The whiskey should survive down to below 20 C (whatever that is in F) - there is this tradition of freezing vodkabottles inside ice blocks at least in home freezers and they should be at arouind that temperature and have the same alcohol strength. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 08:01:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6E1s6q008011 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 08:01:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 977FE1E601A9; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 07:57:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 689801E6019F for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 07:57:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A355B7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 8:50:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14535694 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 08:50:16 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA6DoE518845 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 08:50:14 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 08:50:14 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 08:50:03 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: octopuses get erections Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hA6E1s6q008011 I do understand the voluntary poverty idea, though I intensely dislike calling it that. A simple life, free of the pressure to acquire and consume is the best fit for me. Call it an ethical decision or call it a lifestyle choice - it is what works for me. The words "poverty" and "poor" have the context of not-by-choice to me and the term "voluntary poverty" seems condescending. This is my opinion and it doesn't matter to me if others have different opinions or make other choices. BrP >>> dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU 11/06/03 07:30AM >>> On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, bonniev wrote: >> > Voluntary poverty practiced for its own sake - not in obedience to what >> > one perceives to be a calling or ministry - doesn't make any sense to me. > >It does to me. I think detachment from hankering of all kinds is a goal in >and of itself, carrying its own reward of peace in one's soul. I aspire to it. Ah - I do not equate poverty with the kind of detachment you describe. If I am too poor to afford medical treatment I am unlikley to be detached from pain. B. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 08:05:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6E5j6q008074 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 08:05:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AA5061E601A2; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 08:01:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74B841E6019F for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 08:01:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A35601@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 8:54:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14536183 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 08:54:07 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6Ds7519715 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 08:54:07 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-106.gwi.net [216.195.152.106]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA6Ds4Gn000891 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 08:54:05 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031106085140.00b2e5a0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 08:54:10 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: autumn and all that... In-Reply-To: <20031106041533.16336.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105225545.08a25228@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Yes, my question was prompted by curiosity about >ice-skating. In some areas of the country, inland >lakes off of bays, etc., are brackish, thus do not >freeze as readily as fresh water. Those would be areas where the shore line isn't granite backed up by mountains. > I was wondering if >the joys of the sea could be combined with the >pleasure of skating in the winters. I wouldn't want to hike three miles up a mountain to get to The Featherbed to skate. >Do you have to be a mystic to dance with a vision? In my opinion, yes. The incident I mentioned is chronicled in The Chakras of Mount Desert Island, a book of some local interest. The guy who wrote it and had the vision now teaches Tai Chi on the island. I've seen his ex-wife having breakfast with their son, Wolf. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 08:10:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6EA06q008100 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 08:10:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 95A951E601A2; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 08:05:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 637CB1E6019F for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 08:05:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A35617@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 8:58:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14536478 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 08:58:13 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6DwC520533 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 08:58:12 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-106.gwi.net [216.195.152.106]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA6DwBAr033206 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 08:58:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031106085512.00b4d778@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 08:58:17 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: YAY! In-Reply-To: <1012431011.20031105221727@WordWrite.com> References: <3FA9BE36.441CE4D9@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105173326.00bbadf8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105183417.089e84a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105201939.08a14b88@pop.gwi.net> <1671717041.20031105200729@WordWrite.com> <3FA9B69A.362C15E6@maynor.net> <1877362825.20031105205602@WordWrite.com> <3FA9BE36.441CE4D9@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I suppose it's a misplaced modifier, but "Why, again,..." is pedantic. >What I wrote is how I would say it in conversation. >Karen So the question to me was "Why, again, don't you live in Texas? My answer would be too long and offensive. A short answer, remaining on topic, would be that the criterion of not needing to use heat or air-conditioning wouldn't even make the list when choosing where to live. "If I owned Hell and Texas, I'd rent out Texas and live in Hell." bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 08:14:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6EEa6q008140 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 08:14:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 01FAC1E601A2; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 08:10:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C56AA1E6019F for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 08:10:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A35644@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 9:02:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14536829 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:02:58 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6E2w521455 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:02:58 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-106.gwi.net [216.195.152.106]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA6E2uAr034173 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:02:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031106090023.00b8e9b0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 09:03:02 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Home Again In-Reply-To: <3FAA3A1C.E3697FA2@maynor.net> References: <000801c3a42d$30d73680$e1cadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Welcome home! Lots of important utterances were made, but I can't >remember now what they were. -- Natalie Probably the most important was that Alec's Heide is free of the brain tumor. No recurrence. Yeah! And there is a new guy on the list, Phil Paxton. He was here before, before you or me. He gets very wordy on Mondays. And Clyde has a new picture album up of fall foliage on the island at: http://community.webshots.com/user/cwvoigt bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 08:22:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6EMO6q008213 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 08:22:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E89641E6019F; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 08:17:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7C8D1E600DE for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 08:17:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3569C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 9:10:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14537740 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:10:46 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6EAk523560 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:10:46 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-106.gwi.net [216.195.152.106]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA6EAiGn003227 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:10:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031106090748.00b3e1a0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 09:10:50 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >A simple life, free of the pressure to acquire and consume is the best fit >for me. I like that. Very much. >The words "poverty" and "poor" have the context of not-by-choice to me and >the term "voluntary poverty" seems condescending. --BrP I agree. A vow of poverty taken in a religious community isn't really so much about doing without as it is about sharing. Thus "poverty" is rather a misnomer. Back in the day of St. Francis it made more sense as he forbid his brothers to own property. They begged for their food and worked for the truly poor. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 08:27:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6ERL6q008255 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 08:27:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AD6121E600DE; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 08:22:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 749E41E6019F for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 08:22:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A356AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 9:15:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14538057 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:15:43 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6EFh524347 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:15:43 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-106.gwi.net [216.195.152.106]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA6EFeGp004209; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:15:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031106090305.00b182e8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 09:07:14 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: autumn and all that... In-Reply-To: <20031106033903.20099.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105222858.00b78b80@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:39 PM 11/5/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >Wow. There is a story that Barnegat Bay in New Jersey >once froze over, the ice being thick enough to bear >the weight of a truck. This is a huge expanse of salt >water, and the story is prolly apocryphal, but I like >to imagine it. Perhaps not apocryphal. According to Grandpa Parsons, there were years that our bay froze sufficiently for them to haul blocks of granite to the mainland. Last winter was the first of the seven we've seen here in which total ice cover occurred in the bay. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 08:58:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6Ewb6q008588 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 08:58:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9A8CE1E60215; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 08:54:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B3221E60213 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 08:54:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A357E0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 9:46:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14540976 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:46:59 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6Ekw532221 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:46:58 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.74.122]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HNXQ3202.DOX for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 07:40:14 -0700 Message-ID: <3FAA5F10.26406ABC@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 07:47:44 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I love it! References: <3FA9A0C7.40901CBF@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105204816.08a1bcd0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > >I should probably have added more info about what it is. It's about > >Dean and the pickup-truck/flag comment and is about some > >bless-your-heart type matters. Also, the flag goes ON the truck, not IN the truck. > I'm still a staunch supporter of Dean, Oh, come off it, Natalie. You know and I know damn good and well that you're going to vote for whatever aparatchik the party puts up in the general election. Don't be coy. > >but I must admit that I'm not sure he would really it (it being > >the funny article). He is, after all, a Yankee. > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) And one that doesn't know the difference between the Confederate flag and the Stars and Bars to boot. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 09:03:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6F3t6q008639 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:03:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C780A1E60213; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 08:59:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 880B71E60211 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 08:59:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D4292@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 9:52:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14541570 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:52:17 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6EqG501631 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:52:16 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D4276@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 9:52:16 -0500 Message-Id: <200311061452.hA6EqG501631@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:52:16 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: YAY! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 08:58:17 -0500, bonniev wrote: >So the question to me was "Why, again, don't you live in Texas? No--I'd never ask such a pedantic question. >My answer would be too long and offensive. In any case, it was rhetorical. >"If I owned Hell and Texas, I'd rent out Texas and live in Hell." Whatever. The more people think that way, the more for me.... Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 09:16:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6FGT6q008721 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:16:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CC5371E60215; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:11:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97B761E60213 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:11:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A358A4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:04:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14543024 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:04:51 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6F4p504859 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:04:51 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:04:45 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776BD@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: New Dog Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:04:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Lynne Weber [mailto:lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] >Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 10:45 PM >--- Evelyn Duncan wrote: >> Yep, no returning this dog; he's here to stay. > >YaY for Evelyn. > >> Don't know what Sweetie will think, but they're the >> same size this time. > >That gives Sweetie a built-in advantage. It does? When I still had Kramer (70lbs chow chow), he played second fiddle to Kayleigh, my black|tan doxie (14lbs) (and he ran the "Chow Chow Security Agency" when the house was unattended. In fact, the entire time I had that doxie, she was the alpha. (i.e., size means nothing when it comes to dogs) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 09:26:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6FQe6q008785 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:26:42 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 806EE1E60213; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:22:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E84CA1E60211 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:22:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D43A6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:15:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14544140 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:15:01 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6FF1507300 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:15:01 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:14:55 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776BE@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Home Again Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:14:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: bonniev [mailto:bonniev@GWI.NET] >Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 9:03 AM >And there is a new guy on the list, Phil Paxton. He was here before, >before you or me. He gets very wordy on Mondays. It may not always be on Mondays - I schedule the methadone around the weather. If there's a nasty front moving through, I'll interrupt the cycle until it finishes. There's no point in breaking the pain only to suffer from the changes in weather. Change-of-topic: Maxtrix III: Four thumbs up. Continuity issue I spotted last night: count the number of jacks on the back of Neo's neck: [nearly] consecutive scenes show zero, one, and two, in nonsequential order. Stuck in traffic this morning, I found another palindromic anagram: alfalfa. Somehow, that seems too simple to have waited this long to be found. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 09:31:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6FVI6q008914 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:31:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 624081E60213; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:26:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DB321E601B1 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:26:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3595B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:19:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14544618 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:19:39 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f24.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.24]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6FJd508388 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:19:39 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 07:19:33 -0800 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 15:19:33 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: winter, whiskey, and canned goods Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 10:19:33 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Nov 2003 15:19:33.0892 (UTC) FILETIME=[6203CC40:01C3A479] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Clyde, on the other hand, suggests otherwise. Do you think there may be a difference in the way the cans are constructed? >From: Espen Ore >I have never seen any problems with cans in below-freezing-places. The >whiskey should survive down to below 20 C (whatever that is in F) - there >is this tradition of freezing vodkabottles inside ice blocks at least in >home freezers and they should be at arouind that temperature and have the >same alcohol strength. > >Espen _________________________________________________________________ Compare high-speed Internet plans, starting at $26.95. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 09:42:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6Fge6q009068 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:42:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B8D5A1E60219; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:38:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D4201E60213 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:38:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D4467@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:31:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14544695 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:31:02 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6FKu508655 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:20:57 -0500 Received: from ra.msstate.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.12.10/8.12.8/ra_1.2) with ESMTP; id hA6FKsaK019978 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:20:55 -0600 (CST) Received: (from maynor@localhost) by ra.msstate.edu (8.12.10/8.12.7/Submit) id hA6FKsoA019976 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:20:54 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:20:54 -0600 (CST) From: Natalie Maynor Message-Id: <200311061520.hA6FKsoA019976@ra.msstate.edu> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re the Episcopal Church Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This man apparently has the inside track with God: "The Episcopal Church should recognize that God is not pleased." from: http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0311/06/l01.html --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 09:48:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6FmL6q009144 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:48:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F0ECE1E60211; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:43:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD69B1E601B1 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:43:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A35A25@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:36:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14546544 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:36:42 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6Fag513255 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:36:42 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:36:37 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776C2@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: winter, whiskey, and canned goods Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:36:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Espen Ore [mailto:Espen.Ore@NB.NO] >Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 8:18 AM >I have never seen any problems with cans in >below-freezing-places. The whiskey should survive down to >below 20 C (whatever that is in F) - there is this tradition >of freezing vodkabottles inside ice blocks at least in home >freezers and they should be at arouind that temperature and >have the same alcohol strength. I think I've mentioned both of these before, but again: 30's hot 20's nice 10 is cold 0's ice The +/- 40 method for C<>F: +40 * - 40 C->F: C+40 *9/5 - 40 F->C: F+40 *5/9 - 40 I have no idea why they attempt to teach kids the +32 or whatever the sequence of when to add, subtract, multiply, etc. because it's too much to remember (and use). The method above is the same algebra - just reorganized to make it simple[1]. Other things - such as calculating calendars are no more difficult (thank goodness for boring classes growing up). phil "Make things simple, not simpler." - Erasmus "From simplicity arises elegance." - Me, ca. 1997 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 09:52:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6FqV6q009191 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:52:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1330D1E601B1; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:47:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46E891E60211 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:47:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D44BF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:40:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14545862 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:40:50 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6FUW511338 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:30:32 -0500 Received: from ra.msstate.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.12.10/8.12.8/ra_1.2) with ESMTP; id hA6FUVaK023104 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:30:31 -0600 (CST) Received: (from maynor@localhost) by ra.msstate.edu (8.12.10/8.12.7/Submit) id hA6FUVFS023103 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:30:31 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:30:31 -0600 (CST) From: Natalie Maynor Message-Id: <200311061530.hA6FUVFS023103@ra.msstate.edu> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: YaY! Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I like the croaked Mrs. Kroc: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A6973-2003Nov6.html --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 09:59:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6FxY6q009236 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:59:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D5C291E60219; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:55:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C921E601B1 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:55:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A35A77@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:47:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14546642 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:47:55 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6Fbq513573 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:37:52 -0500 Received: from ra.msstate.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.12.10/8.12.8/ra_1.2) with ESMTP; id hA6FboaK025781 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:37:50 -0600 (CST) Received: (from maynor@localhost) by ra.msstate.edu (8.12.10/8.12.7/Submit) id hA6FboGt025778 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:37:50 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:37:50 -0600 (CST) From: Natalie Maynor Message-Id: <200311061537.hA6FboGt025778@ra.msstate.edu> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Missing Alyce Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A6513-2003Nov5.html --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 10:01:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6G1M6q009271 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:01:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 99C281E6022B; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:56:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 618D01E60219 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:56:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A35A6B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:49:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14547596 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:49:44 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6Fnh516883 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:49:44 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:49:38 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776C5@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: Texas Joke Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:49:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Speaking of Texas....for some reason, this joke has always p%ssed off my Texan friends: Did you hear Texas is now the third-largest state? They cut Alaska in half. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 10:03:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6G3C6q009292 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:03:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 86BF21E601B7; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:58:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5250E1E601B1 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:58:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A35A82@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:51:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14547800 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:51:34 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6FpX517378 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:51:33 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-106.gwi.net [216.195.152.106]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA6FpUAt054242; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:51:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031106104200.00b3dbe0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 10:50:00 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: winter, whiskey, and canned goods In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:19 AM 11/6/2003 -0500, Marty Rosen wrote: >Clyde, on the other hand, suggests otherwise. Do you think there may be a >difference in the way the cans are constructed? It may depend on what is in the can, i.e., how much water, sugar, salt, etc. (Long, winters-were-worse-when-I-was-a-boy story): When we moved from northern Illinois to northern Wisconsin, we spent the first winter in a resort cabin because our house wasn't finished. The cabin wasn't all that well insulated (If at all) and was heated by one wood-burning stove located more or less centrally in the living room/kitchen area. During more than one extremely cold period (-20 F to -40 F) that winter, dad stayed up all night, tending the wood stove. Some canned goods inside the kitchen cabinets (along the outer wall) froze and burst. I remember canned pumpkin being one of them. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 10:03:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6G3N6q009295 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:03:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0665B1E601B7; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:58:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7B5F1E601B1 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:58:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A35A91@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:51:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14547809 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:51:44 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6Fpi517401 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:51:44 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-106.gwi.net [216.195.152.106]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA6FpfAt054291; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:51:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031106105044.00b4df50@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 10:51:35 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Re the Episcopal Church In-Reply-To: <200311061520.hA6FKsoA019976@ra.msstate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:20 AM 11/6/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >This man apparently has the inside track with God: > >"The Episcopal Church should recognize that God is not pleased." > >from: http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0311/06/l01.html More likely, like most everyone else, he invented his god in his own image. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 10:12:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6GCv6q009388 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:12:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B29B01E601B7; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:08:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F3AB1E601A5 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:08:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A35B18@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 11:01:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14549174 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 11:01:18 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6G1H520244 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 11:01:17 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA6G1GW1018522 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 08:01:16 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA6G1FWq018455; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 08:01:15 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031106075728.00a621c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 07:57:53 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Diegetic Mutant Ho In-Reply-To: <3FAA39A2.A00377C1@maynor.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:08 AM 11/6/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Ann Borkin wrote: > > > > That's how my Pine inbox truncates you-know-who's nom de whore. > >I noticed that one of my recent penis-enlargement offers was from >somebody named Angela Ho. I thought she was talking about a coffin. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 10:14:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6GEP6q009396 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:14:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7AEF81E601AC; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:09:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BEEC1E601A5 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:09:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D459C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 11:02:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14549488 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 11:02:47 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6G2k521131 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 11:02:46 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 11:02:41 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776C6@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Re the Episcopal Church Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 11:02:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: clyde w. voigtlander [mailto:cwv@GWI.NET] >Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:52 AM >At 09:20 AM 11/6/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>This man apparently has the inside track with God: >> >>"The Episcopal Church should recognize that God is not pleased." >> >>from: http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0311/06/l01.html > >More likely, like most everyone else, he invented his god in >his own image. There seems no shortage of redefining one's religion. I've always wondered why Catholics in the US don't quit pressuring the church to redefine itself for whatever the current vocal viewpoint is and simply create the "American Catholic Church" with their own twists, a pope representing their viewpoints, etc. (I'm not picking on Catholics, they're a handy example) After all, isn't this something Henry VIII did? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 10:24:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6GOZ6q009539 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:24:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1B4311E601B7; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:20:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBA4C1E601A5 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:20:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A35BCA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 11:12:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14550918 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 11:12:56 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6GCu524565 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 11:12:56 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 11:12:50 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776C8@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Missing Alyce Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 11:12:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU] >http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A6513-2003Nov5.html Something the article doesn't address (and I was very surprised because it was so thorough) is the accusation Walmart employees are required to punch out at the end of their shift but to return to work, putting in overtime hours but not receiving pay for it and not having evidence to back it up. This is routinely cited in nearly all articles analyzing WalMart. I know of a couple of small cities (15k to 20k people) here in Indiana which have summed up their response to WalMart, Meijer, et alia (of the "super super markets"): "No". Not "Not today", not "not right now", not "not this year", but "no". They have several other grocery stores in town and are quite fond of them to the point of not wishing to see them squished. The major chains have offered to scale down their stores to a "less competitive size" and the townspeople are smart enough to realize WalMart's competitiveness is not based upon the individual store's size. They're also afraid once a store gets a foot in the door, regardless of the size, it'll be much easier to ramp it up in size. So far, they've all held on (the towns & cities). From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 10:30:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6GU86q009644 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:30:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B34811E601A6; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:25:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 767C71E60219 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:25:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D4641@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 11:18:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14551362 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 11:18:29 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA6GIT525929 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 11:18:29 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 11:18:28 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 11:18:07 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: YaY! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hA6GU86q009644 I can't help but picture her gravestone as the golden arches with a sign reading "Over 200 million donated" BrP >>> maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU 11/06/03 10:30AM >>> I like the croaked Mrs. Kroc: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A6973-2003Nov6.html --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 11:32:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6HWj6q010227 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 11:32:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8C6C61E60239; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 11:28:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F1F91E601B0 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 11:28:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A35ECA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:21:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14558136 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:21:05 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6HL5506531 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:21:05 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:20:55 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776D0@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: Maxtrix + Literary Tie-in Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:20:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU For anyone who is interested, this allegedly presents a timeline for the Matrix trilogy: http://tinyurl.com/tx6t http://entertainment.msn.com/news/article.aspx?news=139574 based on the literary bent of the list there should be a note of a non-Matrix literary tie-in. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 11:50:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6Hon6q010477 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 11:50:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B7B551E601BC; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 11:46:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61DBC1E601B0 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 11:46:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A35F83@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:39:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14559792 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:39:10 -0500 Received: from tharminc.blockade.com ([216.18.57.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6Hd9509647 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:39:09 -0500 Received: from Spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31) ID MO000006; 6 Nov 03 12:39:07 -0500 Received: from spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31); 6 Nov 03 12:38:46 -0500 Received: from tharminc2 (127.0.0.1) by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31) with ESMTP ID MG000005; 6 Nov 03 12:38:45 -0500 From: "Tony Harminc" To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:38:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Texas Joke Message-ID: <3FAA40D4.27773.55FC68C@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776C5@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 06, 2003 at 10:49, Phil Paxton wrote: > Did you hear Texas is now the third-largest state? > > They cut Alaska in half. Sounds a little like the biggest countries list. Before the breakup of the Soviet Union: 1 USSR 2 Canada After Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Estonia, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, and Uzbekistan left, leaving only Russia behind: 1) Russia 2) Canada Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 12:06:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6I686q010663 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:06:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E52D11E601BB; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:01:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 831091E601B0 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:01:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A36019@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:54:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14560282 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:54:19 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6HiE510582 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:44:14 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA6HhY3W002025 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:43:34 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:44:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: calling it that. A simple life, free of the pressure to acquire and consume is the best fit for me. Call it an ethical decision or call it a Sounds good. I like that much better than being poor. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 12:24:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6IOD6q010915 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:24:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 314871E60239; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:18:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D06061E601B0 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:18:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A360C4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:11:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14561880 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:11:14 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6I1C413687 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:01:12 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA6I0X3W008232 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:00:33 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:01:12 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: YAY! In-Reply-To: <20031106033136.99437.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031106033136.99437.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >> > >> Why don't you live in Texas again???? I love >> the months and months >> > >> with no heat and no A/C. >> > >> > > Bonniemae lived in Texas?? When? >> > >> > No. >> >> I can tell that it's time to log off. I'm confused. >> What did your >> "again" mean? > >Bethany lived in Texas. Huh? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 12:38:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6IcD6q011077 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:38:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4BD481E601BE; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:33:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF3941E60239 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:33:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D4AFA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:26:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14564137 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:26:25 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6IQP419609 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:26:25 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D4ADE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:26:25 -0500 Message-Id: <200311061826.hA6IQP419609@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:26:25 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: When you were a young and callow fellow... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Is it follow up, followup, or follow-up? K From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 12:45:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6Iju6q011151 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:45:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A168F1E60249; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:41:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20BB61E6023B for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:41:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D4B3A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:34:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14564898 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:34:16 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6IYF421806 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:34:16 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 43A2E2B8F8; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:34:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E2F82B8F6 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:34:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:34:13 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: When you were a young and callow fellow... In-Reply-To: <200311061826.hA6IQP419609@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Is it a verb or an adjective or a noun? On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: > Is it follow up, followup, or follow-up? > > K > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 12:46:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6Ikm6q011157 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:46:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 95C4A1E60239; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:42:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02B7A1E601B0 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:42:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D4B3B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:35:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14564923 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:35:08 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6IZ7421912 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:35:08 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:35:02 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776D3@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: Dean & Public Financing Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:34:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU One obvious article: http://www.msnbc.com/news/989938.asp and one excerpt for those who may not care: <> <> on the issue of email. I cannot attest to Dean's email system, but based on a posting about the DNC mailing list, someone's name was submitted sans permission and when the attempt was made to get it removed was told where to get off on numerous occasions. A couple of antispammers have jumped in to "smooth things out." To my knowledge, any laws attempting to ban spam have always granted an exemption to politicians (just like a do-not-call list) but the problem with email is there's no way to deal with geography - so you can easily receive email from Dave Smith running for dog catcher in Phoenix, AZ when you are living practically anywhere else in the world. Somehow, this is not registering on anyone's minds when they write the laws. Imagine all of the people/issues/etc. on ballots all over the us and people behind each of them sending out email pushing their cause. There'd be no reason to ban UCE (although UBE would be nice) because all of the non-commercial garbage would be blocking everyones' inboxes. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 12:48:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6Imr6q011174 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:48:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 195731E601BE; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:44:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E87D1E601BC for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:44:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3619D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:37:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14565084 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:37:12 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6Ib8422331 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:37:09 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:37:02 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776D4@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Survivor Q Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:36:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] >Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 8:43 PM >On Wednesday, November 05, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: >>>From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] >>>Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 5:21 PM > >>>Phil Paxton wrote: >>> >>>> When Rupert played for the other team, did he spend time at >>>their campsite? >>> >>>Yes. He helped them move their shelter away from the water. > >> Then this information overcomes the issue he doesn't know >where their camp >> is (which was offered yesterday). > >I meant is a general suggestion for why looting hasn't occurred in the >past. These guys have spent a fair amount at each other's camps, but I >suspect that 'no looting' is written into the contract. I'd like to see the contract. I'll bet there's all sorts of fun things they haven't written into them [yet]. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 12:52:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6IqS6q011222 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:52:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2C42C1E601BE; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:47:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EB011E601B0 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:47:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D4B66@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:40:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14565451 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:40:47 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6Iel423056 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:40:47 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D4B6D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:40:46 -0500 Message-Id: <200311061840.hA6Iel423056@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:40:47 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: When you were a young and callow fellow... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:34:13 -0800, Ann Borkin wrote: >Is it a verb or an adjective or a noun? You tell me! But from what I saw in dictionaries, "follow up" is mostly still the verb, while dictionaries can't make up their minds about the noun or adj. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 13:00:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6J0N6q011286 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:00:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A2C211E601BC; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:55:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F661E601B0 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:55:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A36283@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:48:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14566967 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:48:41 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6Ime425293 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:48:41 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id AC9CE2B905; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:48:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1A8C2B689 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:48:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:48:39 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: When you were a young and callow fellow... In-Reply-To: <200311061840.hA6Iel423056@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'd go with follow-up as adjective or noun but that's probably conservative - there's probably nothing wrong with followup. Except to me it looks stupid, I want to divide it follo - wup . Ann On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: > On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:34:13 -0800, Ann Borkin wrote: > >Is it a verb or an adjective or a noun? > > You tell me! > > But from what I saw in dictionaries, "follow up" is mostly still the verb, > while dictionaries can't make up their minds about the noun or adj. > > Karen > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 13:01:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6J1P6q011304 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:01:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9B3E21E601BC; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:56:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1CEB1E601B0 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:56:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3627B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:49:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14567054 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:49:44 -0500 Received: from imo-r01.mx.aol.com (imo-r01.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.97]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6Inh425529 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:49:43 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.105.39019d3e (4584) for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:49:33 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <105.39019d3e.2cdbf1bd@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:49:33 EST Subject: Re: reading and remembering To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/5/2003 3:14:01 PM, PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM writes: >He wanted me to start on an "allergy" diet. He gave me a list of > >the "good" foods and 95% of them were foods I couldn't stand I NEVER, NEVER eat the stuff they say is "GOOD" for you. I only eat what I LIKE! I figure I don't have all that many years to go, so I may as well enjoy them as much as possible. My weight is not low enough to be a health hazard anyway. Today I'm having fried potatoes, the Dutch way. First you boil them, then fry them, in butter, of course! :-) My cholesterol level is perfect, in spite of all the "forbidden" things I eat. Did anyone else in your family have headache problems? I sincerely believe that a lot is genetically related. My mother always had them, but my dad and I not, and of course we all ate the same things. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 13:22:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6JMQ6q011561 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:22:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0D5FD1E601BE; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:17:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F01C21E601B0 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:17:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A36385@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:10:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14569368 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:10:43 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6JAg431566 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:10:43 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:10:35 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776D5@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: reading and remembering Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:10:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Theo Groothof [mailto:Dutchessg1@AOL.COM] >Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 1:50 PM >In a message dated 11/5/2003 3:14:01 PM, PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM writes: >>He wanted me to start on an "allergy" diet. He gave me a list of >>the "good" foods and 95% of them were foods I couldn't stand >I NEVER, NEVER eat the stuff they say is "GOOD" for you. >I only eat what I LIKE! I figure I don't have all that many >years to go, so I >may as well enjoy them as much as possible. >My weight is not low enough to be a health hazard anyway. >Today I'm having fried potatoes, the Dutch way. First you boil >them, then fry >them, in butter, of course! :-) >My cholesterol level is perfect, in spite of all the "forbidden" >things I eat. Did anyone else in your family have headache problems? I >sincerely believe that a lot is genetically related. >My mother always had them, but my dad and I not, and of course >we all ate the >same things. My situation is from the car accident - fortunately, I had my seatbelt on. The head pain started then and is my constant companion with one exception: sleep (tinnitus is another constant companion, but I can mask it with noise). The biggest difference is it was on a scale of 8-9-10 nonstop for the first year after the accident. Now, with Dr. Diamond's help, I've got it down to a 4-5-6 (minimum) but it flares with any number of factors: bright light, flickering|flashing light, lots of seasonings (there are a lot of things I can't eat - starting with a fast food joint (the taco sauce at Taco Bell lights the fuse in less than ten minutes) and all the way to the finest restaurants, heat (which means I must have access to A/C and I've found a great landscaper). My mom & her husband live on a lake and rarely run the A/C. The lake means lots of light rippling off the top of the water. Neon lights are nasty. Car lights are nasty. Before the accident, I would have a headache perhaps once a year - go take a nap, and it's gone. As far as going along with the doctors, when you've got the legal eagle on your side and they tell you what you need to do to show effort to change or improve your situation, you don't have much choice. I had to try and return to work even though the doctors knew I wasn't ready, I knew I wasn't ready, and my employer knew I wasn't ready. The employer complained (and the fact I was on the upper end of the pay scale compared to the remainder of the group, it provided a way to save money), so I had to try & go back on disability, meaning visiting *their* doctors who were obviously in a position to say, "there's nothing physical wrong with you." That means no disability, no job, you can go from there. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 13:23:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6JNo6q011584 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:23:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CDBE11E601C0; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:19:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C59DC1E601BC for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:19:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A36377@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:12:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14569559 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:12:08 -0500 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6JC6432028 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:12:07 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.129.3458affa (4584) for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:11:55 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <129.3458affa.2cdbf6fb@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:11:55 EST Subject: Re: Trent Lott To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/5/2003 4:37:54 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >> If we have to, we just mow the whole place down, see what >> happens. > Did anyone see (on PBS) last night that we passed up a chance to have a peace conference with Sadam and others? It was offered to the CIA, and Bush turned it down too. It really pissed me of, and proved to me again that we want to show the world that we are the most powerful country in the world, no matter what it costs. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 13:27:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6JRx6q011633 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:27:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A75881E601B0; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:23:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90CA51E601BC for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:23:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D4D14@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:16:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14569969 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:16:17 -0500 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6JGF400690 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:16:15 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.161.27b51b2a (4584) for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:15:50 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <161.27b51b2a.2cdbf7e6@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:15:50 EST Subject: Re: New Dog To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/5/2003 5:23:17 PM, BrandyKitt@AOL.COM writes: >He's a really sweet dog, and >Mom will have no trouble walking him Good for Mom! But don't be so sure about him being sweet. We had one that was quite mean at times! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 13:36:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6JaW6q011775 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:36:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2FC441E601C4; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:31:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D6F61E601BE for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:31:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A363F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:24:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14570900 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:24:51 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6JOp402861 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:24:51 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D4D6A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:24:51 -0500 Message-Id: <200311061924.hA6JOp402861@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:24:51 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: New Dog To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:15:50 EST, Theo Groothof wrote: >In a message dated 11/5/2003 5:23:17 PM, BrandyKitt@AOL.COM writes: > >>He's a really sweet dog, and >>Mom will have no trouble walking him >Good for Mom! But don't be so sure about him being sweet. We had one that was >quite mean at times! >Theo LOL, remembering Theo's comment about dogs being like their owners... Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 13:39:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6Jdt6q011809 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:39:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9D2841E601B0; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:35:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A5061E601BE for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:35:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A36417@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:28:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14571164 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:28:13 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6JSB403458 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:28:12 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.74.122]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HNY35101.UQ1 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:22:13 -0700 Message-ID: <3FAAA122.3DD7B85C@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 12:29:38 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Trent Lott References: <129.3458affa.2cdbf6fb@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > Did anyone see (on PBS) last night that we passed up a chance to have a peace > conference with Sadam and others? Uh-huh. Some guy said he knows somebody who knows somebody who knows somebody who knows somebody who says that Sadaam is willing to not only let us - US, the U.S.! - investigate, but wants to have free elections in addition. Theo, think about it for a moment. Or, no, wait, don't. I've got this great deal I can make you on this bridge, a guaranteed money maker! (As featured on PBS.) > It was offered to the CIA, and Bush turned > it down too. It really pissed me of, and proved to me again that we want to > show the world that we are the most powerful country in the world, no matter > what it costs. To quote an old joke, "What's this *we* shit, Kemo Sabe?" JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 13:44:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6Ji06q011866 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:44:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3B84C1E601B0; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:39:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0A1C1E601C0 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:39:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3642C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:32:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14570668 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:32:20 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6JMI402337 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:22:19 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA6JLc3W005881 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:21:38 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:22:17 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <20031106032023.6085.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031106032023.6085.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >Imho, money is part of a glorious game for B. She >delights in negotiation, not just for the money saved, >but for the expertise involved. Any lucre-related >matters (real estate, for example) add chunks of >satisfaction to the game. Of course, the freedoms >that the success of the game can buy are especially sweet. Well put! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 13:46:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6Jkx6q011962 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:46:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 90AF01E601C4; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:41:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B4181E601B0 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:41:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3643E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:34:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14571590 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:34:15 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6JYE404383 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:34:15 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:34:08 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776D6@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Trent Lott Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:34:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Theo Groothof [mailto:Dutchessg1@AOL.COM] >Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 2:12 PM >In a message dated 11/5/2003 4:37:54 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: > >>> If we have to, we just mow the whole place down, see what >>> happens. >> >Did anyone see (on PBS) last night that we passed up a chance >to have a peace >conference with Sadam and others? It was offered to the CIA, >and Bush turned >it down too. It really pissed me of, and proved to me again >that we want to >show the world that we are the most powerful country in the >world, no matter >what it costs. Did they show you that we armed him to the teeth before we parted ways? (we *were* a Saddam ally at one time) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 15:29:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6LTP6q013319 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 15:29:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B8C671E601B0; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 15:24:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49A6A1E6017C for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 15:24:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3681F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:17:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14581066 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:17:43 -0500 Received: from maple.vaxer.net (root@maple.vaxer.net [66.199.186.132]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6LHg426463 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:17:43 -0500 Received: from maple.vaxer.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maple.vaxer.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA6LGUtt004591 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:17:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (sylvar@localhost) by maple.vaxer.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id hA6LGEHx032054 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:16:30 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: maple.vaxer.net: sylvar owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:16:14 -0800 (PST) From: Ben Ostrowsky To: The usual gang of meebers Subject: Craig's List Message-ID: X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to . MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Woo hoo! Craig's List now has a Tampa branch. I've wanted to live in a CL city for a long time now, and now I do, without even moving! Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 16:10:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6MA56q013759 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:10:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 99CCB1E601C4; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:05:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 666431E601B9 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:05:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A36974@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:58:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14584401 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:58:23 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6LwN402758 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:58:23 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.213]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031106215818.TCYS1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:58:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAAC3FB.A68978AD@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 15:58:19 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: YAY! References: <200311051926.hA5JQWci004906@ra.msstate.edu> <20031106122301.GA29212@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > Oh good. I was beginning to worry too, as I was the one who > suggested you order them from there, but I hadn't actually > ordered anything from them yet myself. I guess they really did > take the slow boat. I at least shouldn't have that problem. I recommend the place. Low prices, free shipping, correctly filled order. If you want to pay for airmail, you can get the package sooner. (That's generic "you" -- as you say, surface mail to Amsterdam should be considerably faster than to Starkville.) Re slow boats, I think I mentioned before my conversation with a p.o. worker several years ago about how fast packages go. We were talking about between here in Japan, but I'm sure the system is the same across the Atlantic also. It's a matter of luck. And it is likely to be faster at a higher-mail-volume time of year (e.g., xmas) than a lower one. That's because they have these huge bins that sit at the dock waiting to fill up with packages. When one is full, it's put on a ship. If your package happens to be the last one in, the total length of shipping time can be pretty short. But if yours is first one into a new bin, it might sit there quite a while waiting for the bin to fill up. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 16:13:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6MDC6q013798 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:13:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8C0EE1E6023B; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:08:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BAE11E601B9 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:08:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D5258@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:01:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14584731 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:01:13 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6M1C403600 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:01:12 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.213]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031106220107.TEPO1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:01:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAAC4A4.A655464B@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 16:01:08 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: autumn and all that... References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105222858.00b78b80@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031106090305.00b182e8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > > At 07:39 PM 11/5/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > > >Wow. There is a story that Barnegat Bay in New Jersey > >once froze over, the ice being thick enough to bear > >the weight of a truck. This is a huge expanse of salt > >water, and the story is prolly apocryphal, but I like > >to imagine it. > > Perhaps not apocryphal. According to Grandpa Parsons, there were years > that our bay froze sufficiently for them to haul blocks of granite to the > mainland. Last winter was the first of the seven we've seen here in which > total ice cover occurred in the bay. There was a picture hanging in the dining hall at Lake George Camp of Sir John playing a piano that had been rolled out onto the frozen lake. (Lake George is pretty large -- 30something miles long, about 4 miles wide). Sir John was the male half of the couple who owned the camp. Everybody called him Sir John since he was British. His brother was a movie actor whose first name I can't remember. Their last name was Donat. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 16:15:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6MF26q013850 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:15:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D978D1E6023B; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:10:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A65001E601C4 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:10:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D52E7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:03:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14586056 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:02:40 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6M2e403869 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:02:40 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.213]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031106220235.TFMM1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:02:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAAC4FB.8B69EA34@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 16:02:35 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I love it! References: <3FA9A0C7.40901CBF@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105204816.08a1bcd0@pop.gwi.net> <3FAA5F10.26406ABC@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > > I'm still a staunch supporter of Dean, > > Oh, come off it, Natalie. You know and I know damn good and well that > you're going to vote for whatever aparatchik the party puts up in the > general election. Don't be coy. Huh?? Of course I will support whoever the nominee is. I have said that repeatedly. Where does coyness fit into this picture? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 16:16:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6MG76q013855 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:16:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BB10C1E601C4; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:11:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A9521E601B9 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:11:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A36A5C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:04:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14586220 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:04:26 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6M4L404174 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:04:21 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.213]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031106220416.TGND1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:04:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAAC560.4881618B@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 16:04:16 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Re the Episcopal Church References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031106105044.00b4df50@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > >from: http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0311/06/l01.html > > More likely, like most everyone else, he invented his god in his own image. As somebody said at lunch today when we were talking about that letter, if God is all things, then he is surely gay. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 16:18:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6MIK6q013874 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:18:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2C9AC1E601B9; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:13:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF4831E601B2 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:13:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A36A68@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:06:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14586344 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:06:39 -0500 Received: from tharminc.blockade.com ([216.18.57.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6M6d404470 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:06:39 -0500 Received: from Spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31) ID MO00000A; 6 Nov 03 17:06:36 -0500 Received: from spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31); 6 Nov 03 17:06:30 -0500 Received: from tharminc2 (127.0.0.1) by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31) with ESMTP ID MG000009; 6 Nov 03 17:06:27 -0500 From: "Tony Harminc" To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:06:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: autumn and all that... Message-ID: <3FAA7F93.6628.654DF7B@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3FAAC4A4.A655464B@maynor.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 06, 2003 at 16:01, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Sir John was the male half of the couple who owned the camp. Everybody > called him Sir John since he was British. His brother was a movie actor > whose first name I can't remember. Their last name was Donat. Robert? Wasn't he Canadian? Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 16:18:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6MIf6q013878 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:18:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C26861E6011B; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:14:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C4281E601B0 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:14:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A36A63@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:07:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14586410 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:07:00 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6M6x404550 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:06:59 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.213]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031106220654.TIBX1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:06:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAAC5FF.C5C96808@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 16:06:55 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Missing Alyce References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776C8@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > >http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A6513-2003Nov5.html > > Something the article doesn't address (and I was very surprised because it > was so thorough) is the accusation Walmart employees are required to punch > out at the end of their shift but to return to work, putting in overtime > hours but not receiving pay for it and not having evidence to back it up. I've never heard any Wmart employees here mention that. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 16:19:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6MJW6q013882 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:19:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 639691E601C4; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:14:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B98D1E601B9 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:14:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A36A72@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:07:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14586459 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:07:49 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6M7m404750 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:07:48 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.213]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031106220743.TINX1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:07:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAAC630.604B212B@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 16:07:44 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: YaY! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: > > I can't help but picture her gravestone as the golden arches with a sign reading "Over 200 million donated" I like the idea of having "All Things Considered" somewhere on it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 16:22:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6MMB6q013890 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:22:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A23041E601B9; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:17:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 703491E6011B for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:17:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A36A61@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:10:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14586581 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:10:30 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6MAT405188 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:10:29 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.213]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031106221023.TKAH1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:10:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAAC6D0.296C0A1D@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 16:10:24 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dean & Public Financing References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776D3@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > < and Friday and would abide by their decision. An announcement will come Indeed he did. I decided not to participate in the poll since I'm not really sure which is the better thing to do. Iow, I chose to abstain. > To my knowledge, any laws attempting to ban spam have always granted an > exemption to politicians (just like a do-not-call list) but the problem with California has an anti-spam law, right? What other kinds of anti-spam laws exist? I'm all for them. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 16:24:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6MOJ6q013895 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:24:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 38D091E601C4; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:19:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 054B81E601B9 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:19:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D5371@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:12:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14586811 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:12:38 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6MCc405672 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:12:38 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:12:32 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776DE@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Missing Alyce Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:12:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] >Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 5:07 PM >Phil Paxton wrote: >> >http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A6513-2003Nov5.html >> >> Something the article doesn't address (and I was very >surprised because it >> was so thorough) is the accusation Walmart employees are >required to punch >> out at the end of their shift but to return to work, putting >in overtime >> hours but not receiving pay for it and not having evidence >to back it up. > >I've never heard any Wmart employees here mention that. I've not heard it first-hand. I have, however, seen it part of many stories which focus on WalMart. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 16:24:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6MOP6q013909 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:24:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DA00D1E601B9; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:19:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA2311E6011B for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:19:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A36A7C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:12:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14586822 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:12:44 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6MCh405695 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:12:44 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.213]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031106221238.TLIU1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:12:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAAC757.E70F613A@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 16:12:39 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: When you were a young and callow fellow... References: <200311061840.hA6Iel423056@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > But from what I saw in dictionaries, "follow up" is mostly still the verb, > while dictionaries can't make up their minds about the noun or adj. I would definitely write the verb as two words. But I would write either follow-up or followup for the adjective or noun. Probably I would write it without the hyphen, but I think it looks ok with the hyphen also. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 16:28:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6MSc6q013961 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:28:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 22E741E6011B; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:24:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0A8F1E601C4 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:24:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A36AAB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:16:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14587019 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:16:57 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6MGm406245 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:16:48 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.213]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031106221642.TNUW1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:16:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAAC84B.BE120AC7@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 16:16:43 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Trent Lott References: <129.3458affa.2cdbf6fb@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > Did anyone see (on PBS) last night that we passed up a chance to have a peace > conference with Sadam and others? It was offered to the CIA, and Bush turned > it down too. It really pissed me of, and proved to me again that we want to > show the world that we are the most powerful country in the world, no matter > what it costs. It was in lots of newspapers yesterday and today. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 16:33:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6MXf6q014045 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:33:42 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 351AD1E60249; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:28:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 077951E601C4 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:28:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A36AA2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:21:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14587223 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:21:20 -0500 Received: from tharminc.blockade.com ([216.18.57.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6MLK406878 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:21:20 -0500 Received: from Spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31) ID MO00000C; 6 Nov 03 17:21:18 -0500 Received: from spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31); 6 Nov 03 17:21:10 -0500 Received: from tharminc2 (127.0.0.1) by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31) with ESMTP ID MG00000B; 6 Nov 03 17:21:07 -0500 From: "Tony Harminc" To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:21:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: autumn and all that... Message-ID: <3FAA8303.31805.6624B36@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3FAA7F93.6628.654DF7B@localhost> References: <3FAAC4A4.A655464B@maynor.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 06, 2003 at 17:06, Tony Harminc wrote: > > Sir John was the male half of the couple who owned the camp. Everybody > > called him Sir John since he was British. His brother was a movie actor > > whose first name I can't remember. Their last name was Donat. > > Robert? Wasn't he Canadian? Ah - Robert was indeed English, and Peter is the Canadian one. Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 16:43:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6MhE6q014145 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:43:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 925E11E601C4; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:38:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6307B1E6024A for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:38:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A36B0E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:31:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14588016 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:31:32 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6MVW408745 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:31:32 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.213]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031106223123.GQUZ1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:31:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAACBBC.38BCBBA2@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 16:31:24 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: autumn and all that... References: <3FAA7F93.6628.654DF7B@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tony Harminc wrote: > Robert? Wasn't he Canadian? I was thinking British, but maybe he was really Canadian -- same queen and all that... Or could it be that the Donat boys moved from England to this continent, one to Canada and the other to the US? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 16:44:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6MiS6q014156 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:44:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E40C41E6024C; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:39:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B64851E6024B for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:39:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A36B01@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:32:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14588174 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:32:47 -0500 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.99]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6MWl409155 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:32:47 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.192.2223ae9a (16633) for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:32:12 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <192.2223ae9a.2cdc25ec@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:32:12 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] New Dog To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/6/2003 9:05:31 AM Central Standard Time, PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM writes: << It does? >> You don't know Sweetie Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Trying to make sense of the latest Big O From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 16:45:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6MjY6q014162 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:45:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 672011E6024B; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:40:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 383EA1E60249 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:40:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A36B09@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:33:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14588263 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:33:52 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6MXq409310 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:33:52 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.213]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031106223347.GRVN1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:33:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAACC4B.8B541EA3@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 16:33:47 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Missing Alyce References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776DE@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > I've not heard it first-hand. I have, however, seen it part of many stories > which focus on WalMart. People I've known who have worked at Wmart have seemed pretty happy. I've known lots of students who have worked there, but I also know several who do. One is one of my main smoking buddies on campus, somebody who works in Telecomm but works at Wmart certain nights and on weekends. Another is a full-time Wmart employee who is very active in our local Democratic Party. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 16:46:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6MkE6q014166 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:46:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DEF231E6024B; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:41:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB6711E60249 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:41:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D5409@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:34:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14588327 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:34:33 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6MYX409445 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:34:33 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-106.gwi.net [216.195.152.106]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA6MYVAr052483 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:34:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031106173317.00b4d480@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 17:34:38 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Trent Lott In-Reply-To: <3FAAC84B.BE120AC7@maynor.net> References: <129.3458affa.2cdbf6fb@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Theo Groothof wrote: > > > Did anyone see (on PBS) last night that we passed up a chance to have a > peace > > conference with Sadam and others? It was offered to the CIA, and Bush > turned > > it down too. It really pissed me of, and proved to me again that we want to > > show the world that we are the most powerful country in the world, no > matter > > what it costs. Or it could simply mean that Bush and his people had no reason to believe that sitting down and talking with a madman, such as Saddam, could provide anything useful. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 17:03:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6N3R6q014428 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:03:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D2F361E60249; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:58:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A34A51E6024A for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:58:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D546E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:51:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14589432 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:51:45 -0500 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.99]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6Mpj411803 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:51:45 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.19c.1c553301 (4459) for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:51:28 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <19c.1c553301.2cdc2a6f@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:51:27 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] New Dog To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/6/2003 1:17:57 PM Central Standard Time, Dutchessg1@AOL.COM writes: << Good for Mom! But don't be so sure about him being sweet. We had one that was quite mean at times! >> Well, he seems sweet, and I hope he is! Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Trying to make sense of the latest Big O From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 17:44:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6Nit6q014809 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:44:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 660801E601B3; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:40:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 358CC1E60189 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:40:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A36C62@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:33:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14591822 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:33:13 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6NXD417334 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:33:13 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA6NXBdC7626796 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:33:12 -0600 Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:33:11 -0600 (CST) From: nam gal sips clark X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Home Again In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776BE@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Message-ID: References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776BE@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: >Stuck in traffic this morning, I found another >palindromic anagram: alfalfa. A woman on Loyola's volleyball team has the name Suzi Ruiz, and for some reason (perhaps the pal.ana. thing), it always makes me look twice. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 17:46:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6Nkq6q014854 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:46:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D1CEA1E601A1; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:42:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A02721E60189 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:42:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A36C6B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:35:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14591893 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:35:10 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6NZ9417589 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:35:10 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA6NZ5dC1048698 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:35:05 -0600 Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:35:05 -0600 (CST) From: nam gal sips clark X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Re the Episcopal Church In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776C6@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Message-ID: References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776C6@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > After all, isn't this something Henry VIII did? Whaddya suppose Henry's take on Bishop Gene'd be? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 17:49:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6Nn66q014877 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:49:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C680F1E601B3; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:44:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9339F1E601A1 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:44:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A36C7A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:37:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14592029 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:37:24 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6NbO418053 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:37:24 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA6NbMdC3162334 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:37:22 -0600 Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:37:22 -0600 (CST) From: nam gal sips clark X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Dog In-Reply-To: <192.2223ae9a.2cdc25ec@aol.com> Message-ID: References: <192.2223ae9a.2cdc25ec@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, Evelyn Duncan wrote: > Trying to make sense of the latest Big O This tag line just reminds me... Any Stephenson fans out there who haven't yet read The Big U... Don't bother. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 17:50:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6Nor6q014908 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:50:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 00E931E601B3; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:46:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C106C1E601A1 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:46:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A36C8D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:39:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14592100 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:39:11 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6NdB418333 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:39:11 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA6Nd9dC770206 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:39:09 -0600 Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:39:09 -0600 (CST) From: nam gal sips clark X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: YaY! In-Reply-To: <3FAAC630.604B212B@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FAAC630.604B212B@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie, on the Kroc donation: > I like the idea of having "All Things Considered" somewhere on it. I see that PETA is urging NPR to not accept the _blood money_. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 17:51:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6NpR6q014911 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:51:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5A5AD1E601A1; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:46:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25DC01E601B3 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:46:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A36C9A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:39:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14592110 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:39:45 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6Ndj418387 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:39:45 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA6Ndge6002821 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:39:43 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000c01c3a4bf$38228100$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3FAAC4A4.A655464B@maynor.net> <3FAA8303.31805.6624B36@localhost> Subject: Re: Re: autumn and all that... Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:39:27 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > On Thursday, November 06, 2003 at 17:06, Tony Harminc wrote: > > > > Sir John was the male half of the couple who owned the camp. Everybody > > > called him Sir John since he was British. His brother was a movie actor > > > whose first name I can't remember. Their last name was Donat. > > > > Robert? Wasn't he Canadian? > > Ah - Robert was indeed English, and Peter is the Canadian one. > > Tony H. I thought perhaps you were speaking of K. K. Donat. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 17:52:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6NqH6q014918 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:52:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 396D61E601B3; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:47:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A7201E601A1 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:47:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A36C9B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:40:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14592119 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:40:35 -0500 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA6NeZ418468 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:40:35 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 15:40:34 PST Message-ID: <20031106234034.45209.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 15:40:34 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: autumn and all that... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FAAC4A4.A655464B@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Sir John was the male half of the couple who owned > the camp. Everybody > called him Sir John since he was British. His > brother was a movie actor > whose first name I can't remember. Their last name > was Donat. Robert Donat, a truly gifted actor who died relatively young from complications of asthma. "Goodbye, Mr. Chips", "Inn of the Sixth Happiness", etc. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 17:53:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA6Nrh6q014924 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:53:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8061B1E601CC; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:49:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D38D1E601C3 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:49:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A36C9C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:42:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14592143 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:42:01 -0500 Received: from web20512.mail.yahoo.com (web20512.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA6Ng1418635 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:42:01 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20512.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 15:42:00 PST Message-ID: <20031106234200.47326.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 15:42:00 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: autumn and all that... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FAA7F93.6628.654DF7B@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Tony Harminc wrote: > On Thursday, November 06, 2003 at 16:01, Natalie > Maynor wrote: > > > Sir John was the male half of the couple who owned > the camp. Everybody > > called him Sir John since he was British. His > brother was a movie actor > > whose first name I can't remember. Their last > name was Donat. > > Robert? Wasn't he Canadian? > > Tony H. Yes. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 18:00:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA70036q015024 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:00:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 885001E601B3; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:55:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 540281E601A1 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:55:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A36CCD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:48:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14592752 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:48:18 -0500 Received: from web20503.mail.yahoo.com (web20503.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.138]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA6NmI419463 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:48:18 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 15:48:17 PST Message-ID: <20031106234817.93838.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 15:48:17 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: New Dog To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <19c.1c553301.2cdc2a6f@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > Well, he seems sweet, and I hope he is! He'll take his cue from his new mistresses when the time comes. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 18:00:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA700J6q015027 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:00:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 54E161E601B3; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:55:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 261FE1E60189 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:55:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A36CBF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:48:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14592772 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:48:37 -0500 Received: from imo-m01.mx.aol.com (imo-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.4]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6Nmb419506 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:48:37 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.141.1bfddb85 (3866) for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:48:27 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <141.1bfddb85.2cdc37ca@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:48:26 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] YaY! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/6/2003 5:45:54 PM Central Standard Time, rjscheid@NADAL.LOYNO.EDU writes: << Natalie, on the Kroc donation: > I like the idea of having "All Things Considered" somewhere on it. I see that PETA is urging NPR to not accept the _blood money_. >> You ever hear the story about the priest who accepted a donation from a whisky-maker? He told his deacon, "The devil has had the money for awhile; now let's see what God will do with it." Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Trying to make sense of the latest Big O From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 18:02:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA702r6q015050 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:02:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 099FB1E601A1; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:58:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 178361E60189 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:58:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A36CD6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:51:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14592933 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:51:03 -0500 Received: from web20509.mail.yahoo.com (web20509.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.144]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA6Np3419787 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:51:03 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20509.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 15:51:02 PST Message-ID: <20031106235102.39317.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 15:51:02 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: YaY! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- nam gal sips clark wrote: > I see that PETA is urging NPR to > not accept the _blood money_. The membership has always seemed to me to be somewhat, uh, eccentric. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 18:04:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA70456q015063 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:04:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 32D061E601C3; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:59:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0264C1E601B3 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:59:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A36CEB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:52:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14593032 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:52:23 -0500 Received: from web20515.mail.yahoo.com (web20515.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.232.184]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA6NqN420103 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:52:23 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20515.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 15:52:22 PST Message-ID: <20031106235222.67849.qmail@web20515.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 15:52:22 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: autumn and all that... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <000c01c3a4bf$38228100$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > I thought perhaps you were speaking > of K. K. Donat. I was going to say how nice it is to have you back, but this gave me pause. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 18:09:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA70946q015128 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:09:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E741F1E601B3; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:04:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 424C11E60189 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:04:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A36D05@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:57:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14593306 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:57:16 -0500 Received: from web20513.mail.yahoo.com (web20513.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA6NvG420951 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:57:16 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20513.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 15:57:15 PST Message-ID: <20031106235715.52895.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 15:57:15 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Diegetic Mutant Ho To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031106075728.00a621c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Betty Clark wrote: > At 06:08 AM 11/6/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >Ann Borkin wrote: > > > > > > That's how my Pine inbox truncates > you-know-who's nom de whore. > > > >I noticed that one of my recent penis-enlargement > offers was from > >somebody named Angela Ho. > > I thought she was talking about a coffin. That's the Pine OUTBOX, __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 18:11:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA70Bo6q015174 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:11:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D78131E601C3; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:07:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A92121E601B7 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:07:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A36D1B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:00:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14593407 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:00:08 -0500 Received: from web20512.mail.yahoo.com (web20512.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA7007421310 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:00:07 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20512.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 16:00:07 PST Message-ID: <20031107000007.50255.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:00:07 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Re the Episcopal Church To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776C6@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Phil Paxton wrote: > After all, isn't this something Henry VIII did? He disposed of all catholics and started from scratch with newly created, subservient anglicans. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 18:13:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA70D46q015181 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:13:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 30C001E601D2; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:08:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1ADC1E601C3 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:08:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D55DB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:01:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14593449 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:01:22 -0500 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.99]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA701M421424 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:01:22 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1e2.12db30f7 (16930) for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:01:11 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1e2.12db30f7.2cdc3ac7@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:01:11 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] New Dog To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/6/2003 5:48:32 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << He'll take his cue from his new mistresses when the time comes. >> Well, he's going to find a lot of love here! Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Trying to make sense of the latest Big O From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 18:19:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA70JR6q015240 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:19:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9DD581E601C3; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:14:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 707161E601B7 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:14:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D55FB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:07:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14593755 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:07:44 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA707i422177 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:07:44 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.213]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031107000739.BNQH1780.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:07:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAAE24C.2056AE8D@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 18:07:40 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: YaY! References: <3FAAC630.604B212B@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU nam gal sips clark wrote: > I see that PETA is urging NPR to > not accept the _blood money_. Maybe I am for thinking so, but I have never found PETA an organization of which I want to be a part. I have some local PETA acquaintances and try to tone down my "they're a bunch of crazies" when talking with these acquaintances. But, well, let's just say that I have given money regularly to ASPCA and Humane Society (though have dropped the latter -- nationally, I mean -- because they spend way too much on gifts to contributors instead of on the animals) but have never contributed to PETA -- though I do believe that people should be for the ethical treatment of animals. And this reminds me of an ASPCA story I read in their print publication that led to tumbling tears. It's also online: http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer?pagename=awatch_viewpoint -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 18:25:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA70PB6q015318 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:25:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 13AE41E601E7; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:20:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9AB11E601B7 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:20:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A36D4F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:13:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14593950 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:13:29 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA70DT422820 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:13:29 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.213]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031107001323.BQOK1780.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:13:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAAE3A4.86D6C43@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 18:13:24 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: autumn and all that... References: <20031106234034.45209.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Robert Donat, a truly gifted actor who died relatively > young from complications of asthma. "Goodbye, Mr. > Chips", "Inn of the Sixth Happiness", etc. Yes. Those titles seem right -- as in I remember them from inquiring about Sir John's brother. Hmm. That must have been a version of of "Goodbye, Mr. Chips" that was earlier than the one my high school friend was in. He had a tiny part in a movie of "Goodbye, Mr. Chips," but it was after he had moved to England, which he did after college. He went to an acting school in London, the name of which I've forgotten, was in some plays and movies, married the sister of Julie Andrews' husband, divorced, ended up back in the USA, and died of AIDS. I put a hymnal in our church in his memory (our meaning the church he and I grew up in). He was a good friend. That would have had to have been late '60s at the very earliest that he was in "Goodbye, Mr. Chips." Probably later than that. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 18:25:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA70Pr6q015334 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:25:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D42C41E601D2; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:21:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A56111E601CC for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:21:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D560F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:14:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14593971 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:14:01 -0500 Received: from web20506.mail.yahoo.com (web20506.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA70E1422870 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:14:01 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 16:14:00 PST Message-ID: <20031107001400.16126.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:14:00 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: octopuses get erections To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Paul Barfoot wrote: > I do understand the voluntary poverty idea, though I > intensely dislike calling it that. A simple life, > free of the pressure to acquire and consume is the > best fit for me. Call it an ethical decision or > call it a lifestyle choice - it is what works for > me. The words "poverty" and "poor" have the context > of not-by-choice to me and the term "voluntary > poverty" seems condescending. This is my opinion > and it doesn't matter to me if others have different > opinions or make other choices. > > BrP Yeah, what he said goes for me, too. > > > > >>> dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU 11/06/03 07:30AM >>> > On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, bonniev wrote: > > >> > Voluntary poverty practiced for its own sake - > not in obedience to what > >> > one perceives to be a calling or ministry - > doesn't make any sense to me. > > > >It does to me. I think detachment from hankering > of all kinds is a goal in > >and of itself, carrying its own reward of peace in > one's soul. I aspire to it. > > Ah - I do not equate poverty with the kind of > detachment you describe. If > I am too poor to afford medical treatment I am > unlikley to be detached > from pain. > > B. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 18:26:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA70Qx6q015345 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:26:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 593EF1E601CC; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:22:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 233391E601B7 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:22:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A36D55@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:15:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14594031 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:15:17 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA70FH423018 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:15:17 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.213]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031107001511.BRDW1780.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:15:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAAE410.652A3A7A@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 18:15:12 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Re the Episcopal Church References: <20031107000007.50255.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > --- Phil Paxton wrote: > > > After all, isn't this something Henry VIII did? > > He disposed of all catholics and started from scratch > with newly created, subservient anglicans. But he didn't have his daughter Mary executed. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 18:28:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA70SB6q015365 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:28:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1236C1E601CC; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:23:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D86041E601B7 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:23:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A36D40@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:16:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14594095 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:16:26 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA70GP423144 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:16:25 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA70GNe6000437 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:16:24 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002701c3a4c4$57b91b00$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031106235222.67849.qmail@web20515.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: autumn and all that... Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:16:08 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > --- Doris Markland wrote: > > I thought perhaps you were speaking > > of K. K. Donat. > > I was going to say how nice it is to have you back, > but this gave me pause. Meno? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 18:30:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA70UE6q015386 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:30:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 926D91E601D3; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:25:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6343E1E601D2 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:25:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A36D6F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:18:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14594256 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:18:31 -0500 Received: from web20506.mail.yahoo.com (web20506.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA70IV423448 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:18:31 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 16:18:31 PST Message-ID: <20031107001831.16702.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:18:31 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: New Dog To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776BD@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Phil Paxton wrote: > >That gives Sweetie a built-in advantage. > > It does? > > When I still had Kramer (70lbs chow chow), he played > second fiddle to > Kayleigh, my black|tan doxie (14lbs) (and he ran the > "Chow Chow Security > Agency" when the house was unattended. In fact, the > entire time I had that > doxie, she was the alpha. (i.e., size means nothing > when it comes to dogs) Every word of this true. Sweetie is a cat. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 18:36:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA70aV6q015507 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:36:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 482571E601D3; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:31:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 158A51E601D2 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:31:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A36D6A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:24:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14594363 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:24:49 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA70On423844 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:24:49 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA70Olsg018086 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:24:48 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:25:30 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1051157028.20031106182530@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: autumn and all that... In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105184140.00b63698@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105184140.00b63698@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 05, 2003, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > It is reasonably evident that our autumn is at an end. These are great pictures, Clyde. The colors are so vivid they look sort of fake, almost. Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 18:40:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA70eV6q015541 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:40:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E597D1E601D2; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:35:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B49651E601B7 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:35:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A36D63@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:28:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14594444 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:28:49 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA70Sm424098 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:28:49 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA70SlSf023970 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:28:48 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:29:30 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1917671135.20031106182930@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 06, 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: > A simple life, free of the pressure to > acquire and consume is the best fit for me. Call it an ethical > decision or call it a lifestyle choice - it is what works for me. Yep. > The words "poverty" and "poor" have the context of not-by-choice to > me and the term "voluntary poverty" seems condescending. This is my > opinion and it doesn't matter to me if others have different > opinions or make other choices. Hm. I guess I've been hearing about vows of poverty for so long that I don't find 'voluntary poverty' condescending. Poverty implies fewer choices overall to me, but for some reason, poverty itself doesn't have a strong not-by-choice flavor for me. Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 19:18:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA71IE6q015803 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:18:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E48781E601D2; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:13:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B576A1E601C1 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:13:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D56FF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:06:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14596197 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:06:32 -0500 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA716W428039 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:06:32 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1ed.12c61905 (4539) for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:06:21 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1ed.12c61905.2cdc4a0d@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:06:21 EST Subject: Re: autumn and all that... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/5/2003 9:31:20 PM, cwv@GWI.NET writes: >>Very nice pictures. They wouldn't let me see any. Said the MAC wouldn't permit it! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 19:20:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA71KF6q015880 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:20:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 61B2B1E601D2; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:14:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32F391E601C8 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:14:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A36E43@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:07:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14596252 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:07:44 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA717i428197 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:07:44 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HNYIUZ00.ORA for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:01:47 -0700 From: "John Williams" To: English Language Discussion Group Message-ID: <305d03303ee7.303ee7305d03@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 18:01:47 -0700 X-Mailer: Netscape Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en Subject: Re: YaY! X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Natalie, on the Kroc donation: > > I like the idea of having "All Things Considered" somewhere on it. Yabbut, what are they going to do with one million tote bags and coffee mugs? JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 19:30:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA71UC6q016002 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:30:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4AEB01E601D3; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:25:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B8FD1E601D2 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:25:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A36E4F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:18:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14596517 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:18:29 -0500 Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com (imo-r06.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.102]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA71IT429070 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:18:29 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.ce.3fe870aa (4539) for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:18:12 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:18:12 EST Subject: Re: octopuses get erections To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/6/2003 6:40:55 AM, dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes: >If I am too poor to afford medical treatment I am unlikley to be detached from pain Definitely. Just picked up my monthly supply of 2 drugs at $121.00 I think it's outrageous! What do poor people do? Just suffer? Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 19:32:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA71WT6q016029 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:32:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 02C331E601D2; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:27:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C90251E601C1 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:27:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A36E46@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:20:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14596598 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:20:47 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA71Kl429253 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:20:47 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA71KjdC3506312 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:20:45 -0600 Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:20:45 -0600 (CST) From: nam gal sips clark X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: YaY! In-Reply-To: <141.1bfddb85.2cdc37ca@aol.com> Message-ID: References: <141.1bfddb85.2cdc37ca@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, Evelyn Duncan wrote: > You ever hear the story about the priest who accepted a donation That one's new to me; I like it. On a barely-related note, a Parkerism I recently heard for the first time: If you want to know what God thinks of money, take a look at the people He gave it to. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 19:32:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA71Wi6q016035 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:32:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 44C9A1E601D6; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:28:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15AF21E601D3 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:28:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A36E56@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:21:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14596613 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:21:01 -0500 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA71L1429285 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:21:01 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.134.2770a3f8 (2612) for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:20:40 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <134.2770a3f8.2cdc4d68@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:20:40 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] octopuses get erections To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/6/2003 7:18:47 PM Central Standard Time, Dutchessg1@AOL.COM writes: << What do poor people do? Just suffer? >> If you have to decide between medicine and food, what would you choose? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Trying to make sense of the latest Big O From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 19:36:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA71ai6q016081 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:36:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8BD721E60189; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:32:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56ABD1E601D3 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:32:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A36E6D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:25:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14596730 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:25:01 -0500 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA71P1429694 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:25:01 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.10c.2ba39b32 (4539) for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:24:48 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <10c.2ba39b32.2cdc4e60@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:24:48 EST Subject: Re: reading and remembering To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/6/2003 6:50:09 AM, Prbarfoo@SYR.EDU writes: >Theo, > You attribute words to me that I did not write. > I have no idea how it got on here like that, because that was MY experience, not yours afaik. I'm sorry that AOL got it mixed up, and left off what YOUR experience was. Forgive me? Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 19:37:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA71bZ6q016086 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:37:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F0CDA1E601D8; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:32:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1EA21E60189 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:32:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D573D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:25:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14596759 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:25:52 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA71Pp429801 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:25:52 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA71Posg025495 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:25:51 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:26:33 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <8710285193.20031106192633@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 06, 2003, Theo Groothof wrote: > In a message dated 11/6/2003 6:40:55 AM, dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes: >>If I am too poor to afford medical treatment I am unlikley to be detached > from pain > Definitely. Just picked up my monthly supply of 2 drugs at $121.00 > I think it's outrageous! What do poor people do? Just suffer? Pretty much. Some drug companies will provide drugs for free or at low cost--but you have to be under medical car to get them, and that's the tricky part. There are several low cost or free programs, but they require a lot of patience, a lot of time, and a lot of documentation. They are all enormously overburdened. Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 19:47:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA71lB6q016173 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:47:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 189D71E601D3; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:42:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB2061E60189 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:42:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A36E87@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:35:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14597030 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:35:28 -0500 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.99]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA71ZR431142 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:35:28 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.185.22b2c299 (4539) for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:35:17 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <185.22b2c299.2cdc50d4@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:35:16 EST Subject: Re: I love it! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU We just elected our first female mayor in Meridian ID! YAY! Perhaps now we can get that city budget in order... Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 19:51:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA71pH6q016219 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:51:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 693E51E601D8; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:46:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3642E1E601D6 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:46:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A36E85@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:39:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14597145 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:39:32 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA71dW431651 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:39:32 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA71dUxu019131 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:39:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FAAF78A.90202@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 19:38:18 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words-l Subject: Microsoft Excel Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Is anybody really good with Excel? Is it possible to do a nested if-then-else statement as a formula to return a value in a cell? I can't remember the password I've had for five years, but I remember how to code what I'm trying to do in c -- there is something wrong with me. Anyway, I suspect I need to use more cells or something to do this. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 20:03:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA723e6q016328 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:03:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9FAE81E601D8; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:59:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DFF91E601D6 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:59:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A36EAD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:51:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14597700 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:51:57 -0500 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA71pv401155 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:51:57 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1cb.13e336a4 (4539) for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:51:47 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1cb.13e336a4.2cdc54b3@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:51:47 EST Subject: Re: New Dog To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/6/2003 1:25:21 PM, karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: >LOL, remembering Theo's comment about dogs being like their owners... > Sorry Karen, that wasn't MY comment. I don't remember who's it was anymore, because petty remarks like that I just ignore. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 20:14:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA72EA6q016468 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:14:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3A8E31E601D6; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:09:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0332B1E60189 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:09:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A36EE0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:02:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14598121 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:02:27 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA722R402260 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:02:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.213]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031107020207.SBSS1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:02:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAAFD1F.349E80A9@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 20:02:07 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Survivor Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I am soooo mad. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 20:14:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA72Et6q016476 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:14:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2F8B61E601D9; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:10:19 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFFB11E60189 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:10:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A36EEF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:03:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14598168 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:03:12 -0500 Received: from imo-m03.mx.aol.com (imo-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.6]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA723C402360 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:03:12 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1ee.12c760f7 (4539) for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:03:03 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1ee.12c760f7.2cdc5757@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:03:03 EST Subject: Re: Trent Lott To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/6/2003 1:31:47 PM, williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU writes: >Theo Groothof wrote: > >> Did anyone see (on PBS) last night that we passed up a chance to have >a peace >> conference with Sadam and others? > > Uh-huh. Some guy said he knows somebody who knows somebody who knows >somebody who knows somebody who says that Sadaam is willing to not only >let us - >US, the U.S.! - investigate, but wants to have free elections in addition. > Theo, think about it for a moment. Or, no, wait, don't. I've got >this great >deal I can make you on this bridge, a guaranteed money maker! (As featured >on >PBS.) > I'm sorry, but it was also on ABC news tonight. So now what you got to say? It think it's a shame that we have to waste all these lives and money we could have used better in this country if we could have avoided it all. And at least have TALKED about the possibility of avoiding all this misery. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 20:19:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA72Ji6q016529 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:19:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9505B1E601D9; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:15:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60CC31E601D8 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:15:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A36EFC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:08:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14598326 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:08:01 -0500 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7281402895 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:08:01 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.5b.4144218a (4539) for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:07:55 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <5b.4144218a.2cdc587b@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:07:55 EST Subject: Re: Trent Lott To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/6/2003 1:35:53 PM, PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM writes: >Did they show you that we armed him to the teeth before we parted ways? > No, they didn't, but then, they didn't have to. But then, they didn't have to either! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 20:24:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA72OZ6q016564 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:24:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ABED91E601D8; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:19:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FDB31E601DA for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:19:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A36EED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:12:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14598441 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:12:52 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA72Cq403237 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:12:52 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.213]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031107021247.SHGK1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:12:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAAFF9F.B8B262D5@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 20:12:48 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: reading and remembering References: <10c.2ba39b32.2cdc4e60@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > > In a message dated 11/6/2003 6:50:09 AM, Prbarfoo@SYR.EDU writes: > > >Theo, > > You attribute words to me that I did not write. > > > I have no idea how it got on here like that, because that was MY experience, > not yours afaik. > I'm sorry that AOL got it mixed up, and left off what YOUR experience was. > Forgive me? Why do you seek forgiveness for what was all AOL's fault? AOL obviously got BrP and Phil mixed up and put Phil's words in BrP's mouth. Exactly how AOL managed that, I'm not sure. But I trust you that it was AOL that got it mixed up. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 20:27:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA72R46q016588 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:27:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DCA2D1E601D8; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:22:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 139661E601D9 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:22:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A36F0F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:15:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14598511 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:15:20 -0500 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA72FK403465 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:15:20 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 18:15:19 PST Message-ID: <20031107021519.92971.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:15:19 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Re the Episcopal Church To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FAAE410.652A3A7A@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Lynne Weber wrote: > > > > --- Phil Paxton wrote: > > > > > After all, isn't this something Henry VIII did? > > > > He disposed of all catholics and started from > scratch > > with newly created, subservient anglicans. > > But he didn't have his daughter Mary executed. No, not as far as history records. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 20:28:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA72SN6q016595 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:28:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 683AA1E601DA; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:23:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39D291E601D9 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:23:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D57B6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:16:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14598565 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:16:40 -0500 Received: from web20501.mail.yahoo.com (web20501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.136]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA72Ge403605 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:16:40 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 18:16:39 PST Message-ID: <20031107021639.51839.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:16:39 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: autumn and all that... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <002701c3a4c4$57b91b00$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > > I was going to say how nice it is to have you > back, > > but this gave me pause. > > > Meno? > > - D. M. Lawd, yez! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 20:30:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA72Uo6q016616 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:30:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 620F71E601DA; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:26:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 324431E601D8 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:26:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A36F07@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:19:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14598765 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:19:07 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA72J7404204 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:19:07 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.213]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031107021858.SKLG1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:18:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAB0113.D7D2D034@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 20:18:59 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Dog References: <1cb.13e336a4.2cdc54b3@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > >LOL, remembering Theo's comment about dogs being like their owners... > > > Sorry Karen, that wasn't MY comment. I don't remember who's it was anymore, > because petty remarks like that I just ignore. You have apparently deleted your own petty comment from your brain: *********** Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:15:04 EDT From: Theo Groothof Subject: Re: Pup in the woods ... You also need to remember that dogs are superb imitators of their owners! Theo ************ -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 20:32:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA72WB6q016631 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:32:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B49FB1E601D9; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:27:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 870C61E601D8 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:27:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A36F18@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:20:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14598364 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:19:44 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA729i402967 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:09:44 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA72923W001810 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:09:04 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:09:41 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Trent Lott In-Reply-To: <1ee.12c760f7.2cdc5757@aol.com> Message-ID: References: <1ee.12c760f7.2cdc5757@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, Theo Groothof wrote: >>> Did anyone see (on PBS) last night that we passed up a chance to have >>a peace >>> conference with Sadam and others? She should have written: Did anyone see (on PBS) last night that someone thought that there was a faint chance that we might have we passed up a chance to have >>a peace >>> conference with Sadam and others?>> Read today's NYTimes story. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 20:34:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA72YY6q016654 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:34:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D00A81E601DB; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:29:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A186C1E601DA for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:29:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A36F29@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:22:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14598849 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:22:51 -0500 Received: from web20506.mail.yahoo.com (web20506.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA72Mo404462 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:22:50 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 18:22:48 PST Message-ID: <20031107022248.42062.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:22:48 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: reading and remembering To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <10c.2ba39b32.2cdc4e60@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Theo Groothof wrote: > >Theo, > > You attribute words to me that I did not write. > > > I have no idea how it got on here like that, because > that was MY experience, > not yours afaik. > I'm sorry that AOL got it mixed up, and left off > what YOUR experience was. > Forgive me? > Theo Theo, you don't have a doppleganger that uses AOL on you Mac while you sleep, do you? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 20:37:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA72b06q016678 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:37:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F3ED51E601E7; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:32:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF37A1E601D8 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:32:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A36F25@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:25:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14598937 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:25:17 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA72PG404621 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:25:16 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.213]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031107022511.SNPF1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:25:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAB0288.F8DAC003@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 20:25:12 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Trent Lott References: <1ee.12c760f7.2cdc5757@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > > Theo, think about it for a moment. Or, no, wait, don't. I've got > >this great > >deal I can make you on this bridge, a guaranteed money maker! (As featured > >on > >PBS.) > > > I'm sorry, but it was also on ABC news tonight. So now what you got to say? I don't think JMW's point was about where it was shown/written. It has been in a zillion newspapers, even the wee, mainly local Starkville Daily News. I think his point was about the story itself -- as in how much credence should be given to the people claiming that it happened. > It think it's a shame that we have to waste all these lives and money we could > have used better in this country if we could have avoided it all. And at least > have TALKED about the possibility of avoiding all this misery. Of course it is a shame -- the lives, the money, the loss of international respect, etc. etc. etc. But none of that makes the recent story of the last-minute offer from Saddam necessarily true. It may well have been true. Iow, I don't mean to suggest that I am in JMW's camp of predictable, knee-jerk rejection of the story. But I don't know from what I've read so far on the subject that I am convinced that it did in fact happen. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 20:44:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA72ib6q016862 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:44:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 133241E601F5; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:40:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E9F1E601E7 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:40:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A36F3C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:32:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14599183 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:32:53 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA72Wr405489 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:32:53 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.213]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031107023248.SRPF1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:32:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAB0451.89C4EFFA@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 20:32:49 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Trent Lott References: <1ee.12c760f7.2cdc5757@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Read today's NYTimes story. I thought it was yesterday's NYT. Or maybe there was a followup today that I didn't notice. Note my spelling, Karen. Looks good to me. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 20:47:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA72lO6q016912 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:47:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B67431E601DA; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:42:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 886CB1E601D8 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:42:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A36F4D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:35:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14599257 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:35:41 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA72Ze405818 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:35:40 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.213]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031107023535.SSZY1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:35:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAB04F8.39055A9@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 20:35:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Re the Episcopal Church References: <20031107021519.92971.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > But he didn't have his daughter Mary executed. > > No, not as far as history records. Since she quite obviously outlived him, any execution he might have attempted failed. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 20:49:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA72n66q016931 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:49:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C61231E601F5; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:44:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96C611E601E7 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:44:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A36F42@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:37:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14599290 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:37:23 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA72am405920 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:36:49 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.213]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031107023643.STOD1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:36:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAB053C.457AAEE0@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 20:36:44 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: autumn and all that... References: <20031107021639.51839.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > Meno? > > > > - D. M. > > Lawd, yez! Are any Wordslers still on the Little Feet list? Is it still as dreary as it used to be? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 21:07:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA737f6q017073 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:07:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A1FEE1E601FC; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:03:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 734DB1E601F5 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:03:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3707D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:55:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14602413 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:55:57 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA72tv411921 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:55:57 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA72tuoe023310 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:55:56 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FAB0973.1070602@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 20:54:43 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Dog References: <1cb.13e336a4.2cdc54b3@aol.com> <3FAB0113.D7D2D034@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ha! Who's the Dutch pancake now! Natalie Maynor wrote: > Theo Groothof wrote: > >>>LOL, remembering Theo's comment about dogs being like their owners... >>> >>> >>Sorry Karen, that wasn't MY comment. I don't remember who's it was anymore, >>because petty remarks like that I just ignore. >> > > You have apparently deleted your own petty comment from your brain: > > *********** > Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:15:04 EDT > From: Theo Groothof > Subject: Re: Pup in the woods > ... > You also need to remember that dogs are superb imitators of their > owners! > Theo > ************ > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 21:08:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA73826q017078 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:08:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 723B81E60200; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:03:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D6D1E601FC for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:03:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D589A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:56:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14602429 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:56:19 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA72uJ411978 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:56:19 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA72uHoe023816 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:56:18 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FAB0989.5060506@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 20:55:05 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Microsoft Excel Question References: <3FAAF78A.90202@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Nevermind. I figured out what I needed to do. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 21:08:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA738r6q017084 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:08:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 52E171E601FC; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:04:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B9A1E601F5 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:04:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3708E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:57:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14602479 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:57:10 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA72vA412126 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:57:10 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-106.gwi.net [216.195.152.106]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA72v7Gp044586; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:57:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031106215621.00b47a28@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 21:57:06 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: autumn and all that... In-Reply-To: <002701c3a4c4$57b91b00$e1cadece@0018079268> References: <20031106235222.67849.qmail@web20515.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:16 PM 11/6/2003 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: > > --- Doris Markland wrote: > > > I thought perhaps you were speaking > > > of K. K. Donat. > > > > I was going to say how nice it is to have you back, > > but this gave me pause. > > >Meno? Give it up, Lynne---you are up against the champ. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 21:12:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA73Cc6q017114 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:12:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5D3DB1E601F5; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:08:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2552E1E601E7 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:08:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A37091@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 22:00:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14602634 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 22:00:55 -0500 Received: from web20509.mail.yahoo.com (web20509.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.144]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA730t412619 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 22:00:55 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20509.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 19:00:54 PST Message-ID: <20031107030054.78613.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:00:54 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: autumn and all that... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031106215621.00b47a28@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > Give it up, Lynne---you are up against the champ. How right you are. I tip my hat to her. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 21:12:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA73Ct6q017125 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:12:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2EA421E601FC; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:08:19 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F41611E601F5 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:08:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A37092@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 22:01:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14602647 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 22:01:12 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA731C412688 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 22:01:12 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-106.gwi.net [216.195.152.106]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA7319Gp045607 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 22:01:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031106220026.00b7aae0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 22:01:08 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Microsoft Excel Question In-Reply-To: <3FAB0989.5060506@swbell.net> References: <3FAAF78A.90202@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:55 PM 11/6/2003 -0600, you wrote: >Nevermind. I figured out what I needed to do. We knew you would... cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 21:26:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA73Q66q017222 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:26:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 619CA1E6024A; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:21:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD581E60200 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:21:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A370A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 22:14:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14602795 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 22:14:21 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA734L413043 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 22:04:21 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA733e3W015114 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 22:03:41 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 22:04:19 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: middle-classed Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU IIRC, Natalie said something about my apparently not having all the stuff that people usually have. It's true. I long felt that mortgages were highly over-rated, and I still think that vehicles do not necessarily have to be new, that paintings, sculpture, travel, and recovery and recovery activities (for me, riding) are much more important than a new house and a new car, and that giving money away is important. I still do not give away quite as much as I want to (I aspire to tithe, but am not quite there yet), but I give away increasing amounts each year. What else? Oh, I also own little furniture. What else should I have that I do not, Natalie? (I have been to Europe.) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 22:09:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA749U6q017687 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 22:09:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C43F21E60258; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 22:04:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E80D1E60254 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 22:04:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A371A1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 22:57:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14605236 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 22:57:46 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA73vk418199 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 22:57:46 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.172.213]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031107035741.LOGP1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 22:57:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAB1836.F4BE5E8E@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 21:57:42 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > IIRC, Natalie said something about my apparently not having all the stuff > that people usually have. Huh?? I know very little about how much stuff you have, and I also know very little about "all the stuff that people usually have." I can't imagine having made such a pronouncement. I'm really not that much into and lack knowledge on the subject. > It's true. I long felt that > mortgages were highly over-rated, and I still think that vehicles do not > necessarily have to be new, that paintings, sculpture, travel, and > recovery and recovery activities (for me, riding) are much more important > than a new house and a new car, and that giving money away is important. I > still do not give away quite as much as I want to (I aspire to tithe, but > am not quite there yet), but I give away increasing amounts each year. Iirc, you said something about "playing the game" of tax deductions re giving away valuable paintings, but I don't think I commented on that at all. I remember it because I remember thinking about something I've thought about before -- the idea that people give because of tax deductions -- as in whether people would give less if there were no such thing as tax deductions. I know that it does not affect my giving in any way. During the many years when I've known I'm going to take the standard deduction rather than itemizing, I've given no less than in years when I am going to itemize. But when I think about people like my RRB, I realize that the tax thing does matter to some people. He wouldn't give a penny to anybody without the tax deduction consideration. But that is getting off the subject of you and possessions, whatever they are. > What else? Oh, I also own little furniture. > > What else should I have that I do not, Natalie? (I have been to Europe.) Beats me. As I said, I'm not much into what possessions are. Wait -- I think I just figured out what you're talking about -- what you're distorting. When somebody (Bonnie?) said that you were wealthy, I said that I had never gotten that impression. We continued to discuss your alleged , and I said that your reply re not having the 20% downpayment on your condo was a strong indication that you were not wealthy (since you had told us about the cost of that condo, which was amazingly cheap). Having to have another loan to pay that 20% strikes me as not at all for somebody of your age and economic class -- as in middle-classed. Is that what we're talking about? I guess I'm not thinking of money as . And I said something, still as part of this discussion of "Bethany is wealthy," about our discussions of nursing home costs and your having said that one would have to have whatever it was in savings to be able to afford a nursing home and that I was surprised since whatever it was struck me as what a middle-classed person your age would have managed to save through the years. So yes -- if you're including money (as in investments) as , I did say that. In spite of your frequent talk about your investments and investment strategies and such, my impression from other things you said in different threads was that your investments weren't all that hefty. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 22:20:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA74KG6q017807 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 22:20:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B29EB1E60259; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 22:15:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 836381E6020D for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 22:15:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D5C4E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 23:08:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14609333 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 23:08:32 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA748W421083 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 23:08:32 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA748TSf025106 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 22:08:31 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 22:09:13 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <573735605.20031106220913@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: New Dog In-Reply-To: <1cb.13e336a4.2cdc54b3@aol.com> References: <1cb.13e336a4.2cdc54b3@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 06, 2003, Theo Groothof wrote: > In a message dated 11/6/2003 1:25:21 PM, karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: >>LOL, remembering Theo's comment about dogs being like their owners... >> > Sorry Karen, that wasn't MY comment. I don't remember who's it was anymore, > because petty remarks like that I just ignore. Even when you make them, I guess. You said about Marie's dog, "What I'm saying was is that he copies your behavior, keep that in mind." Oct 22. Check the archives. Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 6 22:59:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA74xM6q018198 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 22:59:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EE5C91E601EB; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 22:54:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC2811E601E3 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 22:54:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A37459@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 23:47:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14610980 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 23:47:38 -0500 Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA74lb424773 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 23:47:38 -0500 Received: from EDuncan368@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.128.3477a79f (4206) for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 23:47:26 -0500 (EST) From: EDuncan368@aol.com Message-ID: <128.3477a79f.2cdc7ddd@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 23:47:25 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] New Dog To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/6/2003 6:18:54 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << --- Phil Paxton wrote: > >That gives Sweetie a built-in advantage. > > It does? > > When I still had Kramer (70lbs chow chow), he played > second fiddle to > Kayleigh, my black|tan doxie (14lbs) (and he ran the > "Chow Chow Security > Agency" when the house was unattended. In fact, the > entire time I had that > doxie, she was the alpha. (i.e., size means nothing > when it comes to dogs) Every word of this true. Sweetie is a cat. >> If she could hold her own with Daisy, who was three times her size, a dog her size may well be no problem at all. And she was feral when we got her. Even though she's pretty well calmed down, she has earned her nickname of "Ninja Kitty." Evelyn Duncan EDuncan368@aol.com This account protected by an attack cabbit. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 00:54:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA76s56q019287 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 00:54:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5C0181E60270; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 00:49:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28AC31E601F3 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 00:49:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A37791@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 1:42:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14616782 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 01:42:20 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:jIJeVgTqCU4+sZd/PGi+cenYhqZjthsK@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA76gJ404941 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 01:42:19 -0500 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2A862FE87 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 22:42:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27AEC2382D for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 22:42:18 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3FAAFD1F.349E80A9@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-New-MIllennium: Been there, blogged that X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Neal-Stephenson: Paper is a really advanced technology Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 22:42:14 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Survivor Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 6:02 PM -0800 11/6/03, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I am soooo mad. I normally cut myself off from the net after 8:00 ET/7:00 CT -- I don't go out of my way to avoid pre-air spoilers, but I don't want to know any real information in advance before the episode finishes in my time zone -- anyway, I accidentally read the above and worried all the way through that it presaged Rupert's being voted off. Since did not come to pass, I have to ask: what exactly is it that you're mad at? Surely it wasn't any surprise that Burton would be back? Surely a merge was always a possibility, if not a given? And surely it wasn't any surprise that Andrew's neck would be one of two or three on the block when the first post-merge TC occured? Maybe you're mad that Johnny Loose-Cannon escaped the axe this time. I don't blame you -- I personally loathe him, even while I laugh at his antics -- but again, it should be no surprise. I tell you, he is the ideal F2 partner, and good TV to boot, and I would be shocked if he doesn't make it at least to F5. In fact, seeing that this is the second time he's had his neck on the block, I'll bet we'll see him ramp up his game by being more conciliatory to his teammates, Drakes and Morgans alike -- i.e., we'll see a lot more of the nice side of him. I wasn't able to pay complete attention during the showing of the final votes, but I got the impression that the vote followed straight tribal lines, with all the Drakes voting for Andrew and all the Morgans bar Lill voting for Andrew, with Lill being the swing vote -- and who could blame her? Andrew would have voted her off the first chance he got. He couldn't even look her in the eye when they were talking at camp. Given the fact that at 15 out of every 16 survivors will not win, and given the fact that Survivor, in a very real Darwinist fashion, is not about who you think should win, but who actually does win, in the face of challenges that are only semi-predictable -- given all that, I don't think that Andrew got worse than he deserved. In a movie script, he'd get a better ending, but that's why they call it Reality TV. And frankly, Andrew did pretty poorly as a team leader. Not that any of the other Morgans (with the possible exception of Lill) could have done any better, but if one accepts the authority, one has to take the responsibility with it, and his unwillingness to spur his teammates into action, and his willingness to play exclusionary alpha-male games, contributed directly to his team's losses, and to his own torch-snuffing. Having blathered on, I realize that I've probably not addressed the question I asked in the second paragraph. If that is true, then, Natalie, what is it about this episode that made you soooo mad? Ken Miller Rob Cesterino School of Social Studies From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 03:31:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA79Vv6q020745 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 03:31:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 61E161E6027B; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 03:27:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F94A1E6027A for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 03:27:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A37997@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 4:20:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14621652 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 04:20:11 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA79KA419689 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 04:20:11 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:22:00 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id VR1BPFJ5; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:21:57 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031107101739.026794f8@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 10:20:03 +0100 Subject: Re: autumn and all that... In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105184140.00b63698@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105184140.00b63698@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 18:54 05.11.2003 -0500 skrev clyde w. voigtlander: >Day, whichever comes first. We already have seen snow atop Cadillac---at >least on the north slopes---and just missed some sort of mixed >ice/sleet/rain last night. The snow was lying at about 500 meters above the sea around Bergen last weekend - and when we drove from Oslo to the Oslo airport last Friday it was snow ans sleet falling all the time. This time of the year I miss having a fireplace. >Anyhow, some of our autumn rambles are pictured at: > >http://community.webshots.com/user/cwvoigt > >under Autumn in Acadia. Very beautiful. And again I find that the Tarn looks very much as if it could have been in the foreest around Oslo. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 03:58:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA79wN6q021167 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 03:58:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8B3AF1E6027C; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 03:53:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 594BF1E6027B for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 03:53:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D612F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 4:46:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14622024 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 04:46:27 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA79kR420938 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 04:46:27 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:48:03 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id VR1BPFRX; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:48:03 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031107104428.0268d950@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 10:46:08 +0100 Subject: Re: autumn and all that... In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105222858.00b78b80@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105184140.00b63698@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105222858.00b78b80@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 22:31 05.11.2003 -0500 skrev clyde w. voigtlander: >At 07:00 PM 11/5/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > > >>Lovely photos. Is the water in the Tarn and the >>Featherbed brackish? I mean, does it ever freeze over >>completely? > >Both are completely fresh water and both freeze in the winter. Actually, >last winter, the bay (which is of course salwater) also froze over. One reason why Bergen was a more important trading city than Oslo up until fairly modern times (early 19th century) was that the Oslo fjord froze over far out towards the ocean. (It still freezes in bays and side-fjords, and people go ice fishing) Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 03:59:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA79xx6q021201 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 03:59:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 342651E6027D; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 03:55:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 059311E6027C for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 03:55:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A379BE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 4:48:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14622089 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 04:48:13 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA79mC421224 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 04:48:12 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:50:02 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id VR1BPFSX; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:50:00 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031107104748.026a7870@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 10:48:06 +0100 Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105224838.08a2b548@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <3FA84B0F.1E1A1DAC@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031104213217.08a6a9b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105093439.00b98ad0@pop.gwi.net> <22635064.20031105194813@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105224838.08a2b548@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 22:50 05.11.2003 -0500 skrev bonniev: >>> Voluntary poverty practiced for its own sake - not in obedience to what >>> one perceives to be a calling or ministry - doesn't make any sense to me. > >It does to me. I think detachment from hankering of all kinds is a goal in >and of itself, carrying its own reward of peace in one's soul. I aspire to it. And now we are at the third Noble Truth! Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 04:05:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7A5F6q021222 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 04:05:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3005A1E6027D; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 04:00:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 013751E6027A for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 04:00:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A379B7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 4:53:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14622157 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 04:53:29 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA79rS421492 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 04:53:28 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:55:18 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id VR1BPF4R; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:55:14 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031107105235.02784340@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 10:53:20 +0100 Subject: Re: autumn and all that... In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105225545.08a25228@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105184140.00b63698@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105225545.08a25228@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 22:58 05.11.2003 -0500 skrev bonniev: >>Is the water in the Tarn and the Featherbed brackish? I mean, does it >>ever freeze over >>completely? > >Brackish as in salt water? Your second sentence doesn't have much to do >with your first sentence. Salt water freezes over completely if it gets >cold enough. In any case, mountain lakes such at The Tarn and The >Featherbed are not salt water. They have no connection with the ocean, >being on top of mountains. And, yes, both The Tarn and The Featherbed >freeze over completely. Our first winter here I ice-skated on The >Tarn. There is a story of a mystic who danced with the vision of a bear on >the frozen Featherbed. I have once ice-skated on a lake here when the ice was absolutely clear - it was like walking on air and a little unnerving. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 04:17:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7AHr6q021293 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 04:17:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 99A781E6027D; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 04:13:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BC501E6027B for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 04:13:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A379E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 5:06:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14622463 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 05:06:07 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7A66422363 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 05:06:07 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:07:56 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id VR1BPFWT; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:07:52 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031107110354.026baa40@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 11:05:58 +0100 Subject: Re: winter, whiskey, and canned goods In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10:19 06.11.2003 -0500 skrev Marty Rosen: >Clyde, on the other hand, suggests otherwise. Do you think there may be a >difference in the way the cans are constructed? It may be that I have never tested this in *real cold* places, just places where it occasionally may go a little below freezing. And it is also a question of content: sardines in oil don't freeze in the same way that a soup can might. But Clyde probably know better than me. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 05:39:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7Bdq6q021951 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 05:39:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F33761E601F6; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 05:35:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C186A1E600A1 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 05:35:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A37ABB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 6:28:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14624338 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 06:28:05 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7BS5428737 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 06:28:05 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 12:29:54 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id VR1BPG24; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 12:29:50 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031107122712.025c54b0@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 12:27:56 +0100 Subject: Re: New Dog In-Reply-To: <1cb.13e336a4.2cdc54b3@aol.com> References: <1cb.13e336a4.2cdc54b3@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 20:51 06.11.2003 -0500 skrev Theo Groothof: >In a message dated 11/6/2003 1:25:21 PM, karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: > >>LOL, remembering Theo's comment about dogs being like their owners... >> >Sorry Karen, that wasn't MY comment. I don't remember who's it was anymore, >because petty remarks like that I just ignore. >Theo From the archives: >Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:15:04 EDT >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >Sender: English Language Discussion Group >From: Theo Groothof >Subject: Re: Pup in the woods >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > >In a message dated 10/22/2003 12:10:56 PM, 14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET writes: > > >>And he wails -- you can hear it when you pull up sometimes. It's so sad. >> >You also need to remember that dogs are superb imitators of their owners! >Theo Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 05:57:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7Bvm6q022078 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 05:57:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CA3491E60216; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 05:53:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97E1E1E60214 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 05:53:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D6243@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 6:46:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14149353 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 06:46:01 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7Bk1430359 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 06:46:01 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.171.218]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031107114556.RFET1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 06:45:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAB85F4.5370898B@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 05:45:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bookrat wrote: > Having blathered on, I realize that I've probably not addressed the > question I asked in the second paragraph. If that is true, then, Natalie, > what is it about this episode that made you soooo mad? Yes, you did address it. You made me slightly less mad about the loss of Andrew, though I'm still mad. Remember how he almost killed himself holding all that weight for so long for the Morgans? It wasn't those people who voted him off last night, of course, but it still made me mad that he went. The part of your analysis that helped me accept it a little bit better was the part about how he hadn't been a very good leader. If this had been ordinary circumstances, I wouldn't have been as upset by the loss of Andrew. What made it more upsetting was that it involved the return of the whiny boy scout woman. I was glad to see Burton back in the game but was NOT glad to see her back. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 06:38:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7Cct6q022406 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 06:38:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 58F2F1E6027A; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 06:34:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 272651E60266 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 06:34:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A37B66@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 7:27:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14150429 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 07:27:07 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7CR7420861 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 07:27:07 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.171.218]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031107122702.XWBQ1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 07:27:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAB8F97.90435511@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 06:27:03 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Cartoon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Somebody brought this cartoon to lunch yesterday, and we all liked it. I just remembered that I was going to google for it and share it with y'all. Here it is: http://www.drunkbastard.net/cartoons/image003.jpg -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 06:54:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7Csc6q022546 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 06:54:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 30A631E6021C; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 06:49:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 028511E60266 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 06:49:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A37B9D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 7:42:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14150913 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 07:42:50 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA7Cgo421967 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 07:42:50 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 07:42:50 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 07:42:19 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: reading and remembering Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hA7Csc6q022546 Forgiveness granted, though unnecessary. Just setting the record straight :-) BrP >>> Dutchessg1@AOL.COM 11/06/03 08:24PM >>> In a message dated 11/6/2003 6:50:09 AM, Prbarfoo@SYR.EDU writes: >Theo, > You attribute words to me that I did not write. > I have no idea how it got on here like that, because that was MY experience, not yours afaik. I'm sorry that AOL got it mixed up, and left off what YOUR experience was. Forgive me? Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 07:04:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7D4Q6q022668 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 07:04:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 557D11E6027D; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 06:59:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DFD21E60220 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 06:59:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D62C1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 7:52:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14150904 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 07:52:39 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7Cgc421955 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 07:42:38 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA7Cfw3W028532 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 07:41:58 -0500 Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 07:42:38 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <3FAB1836.F4BE5E8E@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FAB1836.F4BE5E8E@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie, thank you for your clarification. I don't think I distorted your statement at all - in fact, was your term. I distinguish cash savings from investments - and most money I have tucked away is in investments, not cash savings. I could have dumped stocks and other investments for a down payment, but since those investments are earning more than the mortgage % (if tax considerations are factored in), I saw no reason to. And my accountant advised me not to. Re tax deductions and gifts. I don't know anyone who gives in order to get tax deductions. I myself however, having decided to give a gift, will sometimes time the gift in order to take advantage of tax rules. For instance, when I gave the three works (2 paintings and 1 drawing) by E. E. Cummings to the Unitarian church, I timed the gift to coincide with a year in which i would itemize. But I had made the decision to give those work to the Unitarian church close to 20 years earlier. Twenty years earlier, I was not ready to give them away, but I knew where I would give them when I was ready. It may be a mark of my non-middle-classness that I do not keep a lot of cash in cash acounts - I keep some for emergencies, but not a lot. If I have it, I invest it. Bethany From owner-words-l*words-l**GTOAL*-COM@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 07:52:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7DqC6q023102 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 07:52:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 80BC61E60221; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 07:47:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51F1A1E6021A for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 07:47:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A37C69@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 8:40:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14153122 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:40:24 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7DeO428172 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:40:24 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:40:18 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776E0@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: One Bright Spot Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:40:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: bonniev [mailto:bonniev@GWI.NET] >Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 9:37 AM >And Maine voted down the resort casino, two to one! > >>One bright spot in the otherwise dreary (but not surprising) >>election results: The Chancery Clerk we had the fancy party for >>won. It was pretty close, but she made it. >> --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) French Lick[1] (Orange County, I think) voted on a referendum to permit gambling on the premise it would "create jobs and increase the flow of money". Based upon state law, I think it has to be a floating operation so they're going to float a boat in the middle of a manmade moat of some type. Those interviewed before & after the election made it sound like they were living in a Depression-era economy and this was their only salvation. Now they have to find enough statistically challenged persons to visit that area who are willing to part with their money in a stupidity tax (the dumber you are, the more you'll pay). [1] Home of Larry Bird, former Boston Celtic, now Indiana Pacer President From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 07:53:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7DrD6q023131 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 07:53:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 89B651E6027F; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 07:48:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B8721E6021A for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 07:48:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A37C5E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 8:41:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14153167 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:41:25 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7DfP428266 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:41:25 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-146.gwi.net [216.195.151.146]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA7DfJGp061476; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:41:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031107081921.00b18be0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 08:41:19 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: autumn and all that... In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.0.20031107101739.026794f8@localhost> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031105184140.00b63698@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031105184140.00b63698@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:20 AM 11/7/2003 +0100, Espen Ore wrote: >Very beautiful. And again I find that the Tarn looks very much as if it >could have been in the foreest around Oslo. The Tarn has an interesting past. Nestled as it is at the base of Dorr Mountain---a very forbidding-looking mountain with a steep, very rugged slope to the Tarn---and with other mountains (Huguenot Head, Champlain) close on the other side, it often is in the shade and looks very dark, not like the clear blue of the other freshwater lakes and ponds on the island. Somehow, the reputation arose that the Tarn was very deep---almost bottomless. In actuality, as I noted in the photo caption, the Tarn is in the later stages of the usual succession from small open lake/pond to marshy swamp to wetland meadow. When we vacationed here, and even the first year or so of our residence, the water surface was fairly clear of vegetation except along some parts of the shoreline. Now, one can see emergent vegetation---mostly what look like bullrushes---across most of the water surface. It certainly appears that the increase in coverage by the vegetation is approaching the geometric progression that the ecology texts talk about. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 08:05:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7E5W6q023211 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:05:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B4F461E60280; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:00:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8665F1E6027F for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:00:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A37C93@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 8:53:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14153631 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:53:44 -0500 Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7Dri429832 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:53:44 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HNZ005G4ILT1Q@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 08:53:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.73] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Fri, 07 Nov 2003 08:49:52 -0500 Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 08:49:52 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: reading and remembering To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <55693e5524e2.5524e255693e@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Actually, the truth is that she was attributing MY words to you, not her own. I also forgive. Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Barfoot Date: Friday, November 7, 2003 7:42 am Subject: Re: reading and remembering > Forgiveness granted, though unnecessary. Just setting the record > straight > :-) > > BrP > > > > > >>> Dutchessg1@AOL.COM 11/06/03 08:24PM >>> > In a message dated 11/6/2003 6:50:09 AM, Prbarfoo@SYR.EDU writes: > > >Theo, > > You attribute words to me that I did not write. > > > I have no idea how it got on here like that, because that was MY > experience,not yours afaik. > I'm sorry that AOL got it mixed up, and left off what YOUR > experience was. > Forgive me? > Theo > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 08:22:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7EMD6q023333 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:22:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0A2471E60282; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:17:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEBE81E60280 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:17:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A37D07@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 9:10:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14154823 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:10:25 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7EAP400683 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:10:25 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:10:20 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776E1@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: YAY! Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:10:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: bonniev [mailto:bonniev@GWI.NET] >Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 5:35 PM >>Then again, most of the businesses in my area are so >competitive they are >>practically willing to kill each other to make & deliver good deals. > >Businesses here are not that competitive. But Home Depot does claim to >feel badly about it and have discounted the cost of installation by >$160. Not that we have the water heater and not that we have >it installed. The reason it's so competitive here is because the town[1] of Fishers had a population of ~7'500 when I moved to it in 1988. At the time of the most recent census, 2000, it was stated to be 40'000. It's now estimated to be 45'000 to 50'000. If it's only 45'000, that would mean an increase of $3M/year from the state. A special census has been approved and they had to extend the window for finding census takers by several weeks because people didn't sign up - they thought they'd need at least 600 people and only 200 applied in the first two weeks or so. With the neighboring towns & cities, it places our county in the top five counties for growth whenever such a list is published. Indianapolis has shown a lot of growth but not the city proper - it's the surrounding counties. Indianapolis uses those numbers to boost itself for comparison purposes. If you look here: http://tinyurl.com/u2cn, you can see the competing towns & cities just north of Indianapolis: Zionsville, Carmel, Westfield, Fishers, and Noblesville (which for all of its growth has a trailer court two blocks from the town square). If you look here: http://tinyurl.com/u2d1 and click the "^ North ^" once, you'll see where the aforementioned cities fit in with Indianapolis. Indianapolis has what's labeled "unigov" - the city & the county are roughly the same but not entirely - the police & sheriff have different jurisdictions, the cable companies have different catchment areas (one has an inner loop, the other, an outer loop), etc. There are similar patterns of growth for each of the other directions around Indianapolis. What we get by living in the surrounding area(s) is it's a lot cheaper - Indianapolis has a 1% food tax to pay for the dome (which has been paid for for years), we have better schools, and so on. There's been some jockeying to find out how to get the surrounding counties to "help out" because of a stronger tax base outside the loop. What most of the businesses are afraid of is if they don't deliver, they'll be on your list and anyone you talk to - so while the potential audience is growing, the sh%t list could be growing as well. Word travels fast - "who do you use for ?" "I use so-and-so, but avoid because..." Even Home Depot, Lowes, et alia are on their toes because their competition is either across the street or a block or two away - and if they don't keep you happy, they're toast. The same is what's going on with the grocery stores WRT the Kroger strike issue. Every Kroger has at least one, if not two, major competitors across the street or a block away - so if they go on strike and people (employees, temps, and customers) don't cross the picket line, the Krogers here could be in a permanent world of hurt. phil [1] The argument for town vs. city comes up at least once, if not twice or more per year. Any more, it's a status symbol, kind of like Indiana's decision to not observe Daylight Saving Time. One thing I've got where I'm at in Fishers is I don't actually live in the town - I'm in the town geographically but not legally - my neighborhood has not been annexed so I officially live in the county despite the fact the Fishers town square isn't that far from my house. Mail, fire, police, road, and about anything else you can think of comes from Fishers but I pay county taxes [only]. We had an attorney in the neighborhood the last time they tried to annex us and he gave us enough ammo to make them realize it would take them at least fifteen years before the taxes we were paying would begin to "show a profit". They'll get us eventually, but by then, I'll be moving out to the countryside. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 08:23:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7EN36q023354 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:23:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D6DE41E60281; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:18:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A93C51E6021D for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:18:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A37D1F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 9:11:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14154886 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:11:15 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7EBF400849 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:11:15 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:11:10 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776E2@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Survivor Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:11:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] >Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 9:02 PM >I am soooo mad. Why? Because they got rid of Savage? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 08:23:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7ENh6q023359 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:23:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 202231E60281; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:19:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E62CB1E60280 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:19:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A37D2C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 9:11:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14154931 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:11:56 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7EBt401009 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:11:55 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:11:50 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776E3@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Trent Lott Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:11:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] >Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 9:33 PM >"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >> Read today's NYTimes story. > >I thought it was yesterday's NYT. Or maybe there was a followup today >that I didn't notice. Note my spelling, Karen. Looks good to me. It was in Thursday's NYTimes - Page 1, above the fold (left side) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 08:30:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7EU56q023412 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:30:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 25AE81E60282; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:25:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E68761E60281 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:25:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D647C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 9:18:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14155611 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:18:16 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7EIG402205 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:18:16 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:18:11 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776E4@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Survivor Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:18:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Bookrat [mailto:bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM] >Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 1:42 AM >Maybe you're mad that Johnny Loose-Cannon escaped the axe this time. I >don't blame you -- I personally loathe him, even while I laugh at his >antics -- but again, it should be no surprise. I tell you, he >is the ideal >F2 partner, and good TV to boot, and I would be shocked if he >doesn't make >it at least to F5. In fact, seeing that this is the second >time he's had >his neck on the block, I'll bet we'll see him ramp up his game by being >more conciliatory to his teammates, Drakes and Morgans alike >-- i.e., we'll >see a lot more of the nice side of him. Probably not - John is no threat to anyone so he was spared. Those who are in a position to try & pave their way to the end are trying to out-maneuver each other and figure out how to pick each other off without being overbearing about it - Savage was too oily. I keep thinking Rupert is going to overextend himself but he manages to pacify things before things get out of hand. I'm guessing this is part of his professional life. If there's a challenge day and everyone is calm, John (or someone else like him) is gone. He's a sacrificial lamb and has no choice about how long he can stay in the game except to make it happen sooner rather than later. Someone may force their hand to get ejected sooner, but that won't be John's choice to make it happen. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 08:50:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7Eo86q023533 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:50:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ADD941E60283; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:45:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 707121E60282 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:45:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D64FE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 9:38:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14157228 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:38:20 -0500 Received: from web20516.mail.yahoo.com (web20516.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.232.185]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA7EcK406518 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:38:20 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20516.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 06:38:19 PST Message-ID: <20031107143819.35718.qmail@web20516.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 06:38:19 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: autumn and all that... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.0.20031107105235.02784340@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Espen Ore wrote: > I have once ice-skated on a lake here when the ice > was absolutely clear - it was like walking on air > and a little unnerving. > > Espen I don't remember having ever skated on clear ice. Even artificial ice on which we have skated is white, or opaque. Natural ice (farm ponds, lakes) are usually full of limbs, twigs, leaves and other miscellaneous debris, plus the ice is "bumpy". It would be wonderful to skate on clear ice - maybe akin to the sensation of riding an air boat across the Everglades? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 08:52:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7Eqg6q023550 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:52:42 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6CB421E6021D; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:48:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36F0A1E60282 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:48:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A37E38@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 9:40:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14157315 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:40:47 -0500 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA7Eel406770 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:40:47 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 06:40:46 PST Message-ID: <20031107144046.67029.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 06:40:46 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Cartoon To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FAB8F97.90435511@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Somebody brought this cartoon to lunch yesterday, > and we all liked it. > I just remembered that I was going to google for it > and share it with > y'all. Here it is: > > http://www.drunkbastard.net/cartoons/image003.jpg > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) REALLY laughing out loud. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 09:08:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7F8a6q023711 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:08:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F0AA21E60280; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:03:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDBF21E60227 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:03:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A37F11@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 9:56:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14159528 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:56:47 -0500 Received: from web20516.mail.yahoo.com (web20516.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.232.185]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA7Eul410040 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:56:47 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20516.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 06:56:47 PST Message-ID: <20031107145647.39788.qmail@web20516.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 06:56:47 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: middle-classed To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > I have it, I invest it. > > Bethany I think I would trust you to manage my money. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 09:23:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7FNP6q023887 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:23:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7BFE81E60282; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:18:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 487DB1E6021D for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:18:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D6689@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:11:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14160729 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:11:37 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7FBb412612 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:11:37 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-110.gwi.net [216.195.150.110]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA7FBMB3064827; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:11:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031107100551.029b0d58@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 10:09:31 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: autumn and all that... In-Reply-To: <20031107143819.35718.qmail@web20516.mail.yahoo.com> References: <6.0.0.22.0.20031107105235.02784340@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:38 AM 11/7/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >I don't remember having ever skated on clear ice. >Even artificial ice on which we have skated is white, >or opaque. In northern Wisconsin, if we got really cold, still weather before much snow fell, the lakes would be "black ice" which was clear. You could see the cracks all the way through the ice. It didn't happen every year, though. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 09:33:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7FXB6q023960 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:33:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6DF801E60286; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:28:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ED421E60285 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:28:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A38028@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:21:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14161648 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:21:11 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7FLA414467 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:21:11 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:21:05 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776E7@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Dean & Public Financing Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:20:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] >Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 5:10 PM >Phil Paxton wrote: > >> <e-mail Thursday >> and Friday and would abide by their decision. An >announcement will come > >Indeed he did. I decided not to participate in the poll since I'm not >really sure which is the better thing to do. Iow, I chose to abstain. > >> To my knowledge, any laws attempting to ban spam have always >granted an >> exemption to politicians (just like a do-not-call list) but >the problem with > >California has an anti-spam law, right? What other kinds of anti-spam >laws exist? I'm all for them. There are a number of them. The problem is the organization known as the DMA (Direct Marketing Association). They claim to represent ~5k businesses (of varying reputation). It's claimed they want spam laws as well because they want things such that reputable businesses can operate online without being accused of being spammers. They will not submit themselves to direct questions but provide information indirectly on their web site and various types of press scenarios. They state spammers do not permit people to opt-out of mailings and if they do have a link, they do not honor it [, continuing to send unsolicited email once the request has been made] and as a result good companies are lumped in with the bad. You'll notice (so far) I've not said what the DMA states spam to be [overtly], which is exactly how they want it to be. They want free bites at the apple until the recipient says, "stop." So if a business sends unsolicited email, permits you to opt-out, and honors it, this is fine by them. The problem with this is there's no accounting for how many messages or how often messages can be sent from a single business to each account. If you are claiming to be an honest business abiding by some type of spam law hinted at so far, you could send each address sixty or seventy messages before someone realizes they need to opt-out of additional messages from that firm. Imagine every business conducting activity online doing this. Do you see much of a difference between that and the status quo? How do you prove you opted-out? (how do you prove they ignored an opt-out?) There are discussions about an opt-out list, not unlike a DNC (Do-Not-Call) list. Spammers and DMA-denizens don't like this because you can single-handedly remove yourself from receiving any more garbage from them with a single entry [for each email address you own|control]. If you think a DNC list sounds good, think about this: Microsoft (or IBM, or any other Fortune xxx company) has xx'xxx employees and each one would have to opt-out to avoid getting spammed. What needs to happen in that case is being able to say "*.ibm.com" so no ibm.com addresses receive spam. I'm not trying to protect businesses there - just presenting an example. The same would apply to universities. A single entry of *.stanford.edu would end a lot of spam. And this is "not good" in the eyes of spammers, the DMA, and their ilk. The bad thing about this is Congresscritters have talked about the opt-out and it sounds good to them but no one has educated them on what I've presented in this paragraph. *.us.gov would mean no spam going to the government and the people who have staff members who screen & process "good email" would be able to do so. A two-minute 1::many presentation of this information would be infinitely helpful. As far as spam laws go, here's where to go: http://www.spamlaws.com, which is kept *very* current - you can see summaries or details. One of the sad things about proposed legislation from varying bodies is the higher the governing body, the greater the likelihood they want to prevent individuals from having the ability to sue spammers 1::1 for a sum (usually $500/message). Now if you think about who is going to give a spammer a hard time, dealing with unhappy recipients one-at-a-time at $500/crack is going to keep them awfully busy. Otherwise, it's wait for the FTC to get off their lazy butts, collect thousands of messages, then decide to go after them. If the gov't wants to do it themselves, they should approach some of the stronger antispammers online. They've got huge collections of data, including a lot of biographical information. At present, it's presumed the Pareto Principle applied to spam would apply to roughly 175-200 individuals (roughly 80%-90% of the spam is coming from 175-200 individuals). Were the gov't to start with that information, monitor on their own from that point, they could same themselves a lot of time & effort and a lot of email users a lot of grief. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 09:33:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7FXd6q023963 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:33:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 466E11E60285; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:28:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 186031E60284 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:28:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A38017@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:21:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14161746 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:21:51 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7FLo414724 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:21:50 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:21:45 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776E8@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Re the Episcopal Church Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:21:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: nam gal sips clark [mailto:rjscheid@NADAL.LOYNO.EDU] >Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 6:35 PM >On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: >> After all, isn't this something Henry VIII did? > >Whaddya suppose Henry's take on Bishop Gene'd be? The same as Alice's Queen: "Off With His Head!" From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 09:34:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7FYJ6q023968 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:34:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 54DD61E60286; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:29:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2129D1E60284 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:29:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A38034@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:22:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14161795 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:22:31 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7FMU414896 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:22:31 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:22:25 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776E9@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: YaY! Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:22:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: nam gal sips clark [mailto:rjscheid@NADAL.LOYNO.EDU] >Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 6:39 PM >Natalie, on the Kroc donation: >> I like the idea of having "All Things Considered" somewhere on it. > >I see that PETA is urging NPR to not accept the _blood money_. Of course not - they want it for themselves for prior transgressions. (The answer is "no" unless they try it.) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 09:36:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7Fa96q023990 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:36:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 913FD1E60280; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:31:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C5631E60227 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:31:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A38030@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:24:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14161888 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:24:21 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7FOL415161 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:24:21 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:24:15 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776EA@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Re the Episcopal Church Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:24:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Lynne Weber [mailto:lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] >Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 7:00 PM >--- Phil Paxton wrote: > > >> After all, isn't this something Henry VIII did? > >He disposed of all catholics and started from scratch >with newly created, subservient anglicans. Thank-you for our contestant. Exactly what I was hinting at. If the American Catholics were to quit whining about the confining doctrine and create their own religion they'd have a little more time for crackers and juice. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 09:37:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7FbT6q024008 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:37:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D5F311E60280; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:32:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A70F31E60227 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:32:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3803F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:25:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14161943 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:25:40 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7FPe415370 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:25:40 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:25:35 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776EB@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: octopuses get erections Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:25:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Theo Groothof [mailto:Dutchessg1@AOL.COM] >Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 8:18 PM >In a message dated 11/6/2003 6:40:55 AM, >dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes: > >>If I am too poor to afford medical treatment I am unlikley to >be detached >from pain > >Definitely. Just picked up my monthly supply of 2 drugs at $121.00 >I think it's outrageous! What do poor people do? Just suffer? They frequently volunteer to be the subjects for the development of the medication(s) in question. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 09:39:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7FdL6q024014 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:39:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 15D9D1E60280; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:34:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB9311E6021D for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:34:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A38036@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:27:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14162114 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:27:32 -0500 Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7FRW415813 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:27:32 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HNZ00872MXWP7@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 10:27:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.73] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Fri, 07 Nov 2003 10:23:41 -0500 Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 10:23:41 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: autumn and all that... To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <523bb852139e.52139e523bb8@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Date: Friday, November 7, 2003 10:09 am > At 06:38 AM 11/7/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > > >I don't remember having ever skated on clear ice. > >Even artificial ice on which we have skated is white, > >or opaque. > > In northern Wisconsin, if we got really cold, still weather before > muchsnow fell, the lakes would be "black ice" which was clear. > You could see > the cracks all the way through the ice. It didn't happen every > year, though. I once skated on clear ice (on Squantz Pond in Connecticut) through which we could see several fish underneath. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 09:47:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7FlZ6q024099 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:47:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7EEFE1E6021D; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:42:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B6F11E60227 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:42:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A380C9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:35:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14163082 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:35:47 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7FZl418160 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:35:47 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D676B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:35:46 -0500 Message-Id: <200311071535.hA7FZl418160@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:35:46 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: out o town To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:16:33 -0500, Terry Wild wrote: >> I'm off to Chicago for that Honors snobbash I was talking about a bit ago. >> >> Back Monday. Don't go and be interesting behind my back, now, y'all! >> clo > > >Are you meeting Tushar for beers? > >Terry Yes! Spent the evening at the Green Mill, listening to swing. Thank you Tushar! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 09:54:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7Fsu6q024118 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:54:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3FABE1E6021D; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:50:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6ADD1E60227 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:50:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A38141@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:43:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14164131 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:43:07 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7Fh6420720 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:43:06 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A38133@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:43:06 -0500 Message-Id: <200311071543.hA7Fh6420720@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:43:06 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: octopuses get erections To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 07:30:38 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, bonniev wrote: > >>> > Voluntary poverty practiced for its own sake - not in obedience to what >>> > one perceives to be a calling or ministry - doesn't make any sense to me. >> >>It does to me. I think detachment from hankering of all kinds is a goal in >>and of itself, carrying its own reward of peace in one's soul. I aspire to it. > >Ah - I do not equate poverty with the kind of detachment you describe. If >I am too poor to afford medical treatment I am unlikley to be detached >from pain. > >B. It makes sense to me. I would have chosen it for myself, had not circumstance intervened. There are people who prefer a life that is lived closer to the bone, and for whom one kind of freedom outweighs another. Besides, I grew up that way, wasn't afraid of not having. I think my son will live that way - he just has no interest in amassing comforts. His is the most spartan room I've ever seen. Yet his inner life is quite full. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 10:08:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7G8a6q024245 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:08:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 60C811E6022D; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:03:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 278861E6021D for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:03:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A381A3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:56:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14165304 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:56:48 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7Ful423223 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:56:47 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:56:37 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776ED@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: autumn and all that... Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:56:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Marie Ascher [mailto:14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET] >Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 10:24 AM >From: "clyde w. voigtlander" >Date: Friday, November 7, 2003 10:09 am >> At 06:38 AM 11/7/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >> >> >I don't remember having ever skated on clear ice. >> >Even artificial ice on which we have skated is white, >> >or opaque. >> >> In northern Wisconsin, if we got really cold, still weather before >> muchsnow fell, the lakes would be "black ice" which was clear. >> You could see >> the cracks all the way through the ice. It didn't happen every >> year, though. > >I once skated on clear ice (on Squantz Pond in Connecticut) >through which we could see several fish underneath. I don't know where I read this but I think the clearness has something to do with how much oxygen saturation there is in the water (a similar effect to boiling water to make it safe for watering, cooling it, and the bad taste it has - from free oxygen being released). From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 10:12:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7GCV6q024264 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:12:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7DBE81E60280; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:07:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CF011E6022D for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:07:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A381C6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:00:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14164825 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:00:42 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7Fog422216 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:50:42 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA7Fo03W018317 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:50:02 -0500 Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:50:40 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <20031107145647.39788.qmail@web20516.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031107145647.39788.qmail@web20516.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >> I have it, I invest it. >> >> Bethany > >I think I would trust you to manage my money. Now there's an idea. All I can tell you is that apart from my investment club (still stuck with tech stock losses) and the mostly crappy 401(k) fund choices that UT offers (which I am in only in order to get the tiny match that UT offers - $20 per month), my investments make a heck of a lot more than banks are paying. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 10:17:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7GHo6q024327 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:17:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8E4241E60280; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:13:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56F9A1E6022D for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:13:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A381EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:06:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14165234 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:06:01 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7Fu0423100 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:56:00 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA7FtK3W020324 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:55:20 -0500 Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:55:59 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: more re being poor Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I realize that when bonnie talks about poverty she is usually talking about what might be called instead "shared wealth" - property held in common. I'm not sure about others. But - I have been poor (really poor) and I cannot imagine choosing it. I like to have access to medical care, have a place to sleep, and have some idea that I can eat tomorrow. Poor people do not have those things on an ongiong basis. Having a spartan room is not the same thing as being poor. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 10:32:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7GWM6q024481 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:32:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 593201E60283; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:27:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 246021E60280 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:27:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A382A1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:20:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14167632 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:20:33 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7GKW428537 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:20:32 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D690F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:20:32 -0500 Message-Id: <200311071620.hA7GKW428537@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:20:32 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: more re being poor To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:55:59 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >I realize that when bonnie talks about poverty she is usually talking >about what might be called instead "shared wealth" - property held in >common. She was very explicit about this. >I'm not sure about others. Paul said that he sees poverty as something explicityly not chosen. Forced upon you by circumstances. I'm not sure I agree. People choose poverty for a number of reasons. On the other hand, it's very clear to me that true poverty results in fewer choices, such as an inability to obtain health care. >Having a spartan room is not the same thing as being poor. True. But it is exactly what Paul was talking about in his lovely statement that was so precise, I'm not going to risk misquoting. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 10:59:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7Gxg6q024705 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:59:42 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3A1471E60286; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:55:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC9C11E60283 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:54:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3838C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:47:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14169748 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:47:51 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7Glp600497 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:47:51 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:47:31 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776F2@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: middle-classed Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:47:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Bethany K. Dumas [mailto:dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU] >Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 10:51 AM >Now there's an idea. All I can tell you is that apart from my >investment >club (still stuck with tech stock losses) and the mostly crappy 401(k) >fund choices that UT offers (which I am in only in order to >get the tiny >match that UT offers - $20 per month), my investments make a >heck of a lot >more than banks are paying. During my previous tenure on this list, I worked at a combined university - Indiana + Purdue. Although I was not faculty I was a state education employee and received the benefits the unions fought for. Non-management received an eleven percent (of gross salary) TDA investment on their behalf and management received sixteen percent. There was nothing taken out of your salary, check, or anything. It was just placed in deposit for you. A lot of the management had been there for 15-20-25 years, had no degree (so they couldn't leave and get a job elsewhere), and literally couldn't afford to go elsewhere because of the golden handcuffs. It's not like the money would disappear if they left (mine is still there) but they were too high at the pay scale for what they did so (salary + knowing how much was being socked away * salary + no degree) made for a bad equation. Sure, they've got stability but they have stagnation as well. They'll never know anything but the status quo. They aren't doing the hands-on technical work so they are very outdated when it comes to any technology. Unless you're looking around and picking up places which are in severe need to be upgraded (shrinking pond) there's no way "the status quo from 1970" is a marketable skill. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 11:00:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7H0S6q024711 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:00:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 90DFF1E60284; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:55:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 528981E60283 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:55:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A38382@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:48:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14169782 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:48:39 -0500 Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7Gmd600578 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:48:39 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HNZ00BYRQP20K@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 11:48:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.76] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Fri, 07 Nov 2003 11:44:47 -0500 Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 11:44:47 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: No Problem To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Message-id: <5676fa56b8b5.56b8b55676fa@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Have we talked about "No problem" here before? I enjoyed this article from the New York Observer: http://www.observer.com/pages/story.asp?ID=8120# Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 11:07:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7H756q024762 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:07:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9E1851E60285; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:02:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6142C1E60284 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:02:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A383C6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:55:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14170269 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:55:16 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7GtG601635 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:55:16 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A383AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:55:15 -0500 Message-Id: <200311071655.hA7GtG601635@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:55:15 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: No Problem To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:44:47 -0500, Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote: >Have we talked about "No problem" here before? Yes. Alyce hates it. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 11:16:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7HGT6q024823 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:16:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6B04B1E60231; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:11:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B821E6022E for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:11:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3840C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 12:04:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14170984 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 12:04:32 -0500 Received: from web20501.mail.yahoo.com (web20501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.136]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA7H4VR03171 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 12:04:31 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 09:04:30 PST Message-ID: <20031107170430.21169.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:04:30 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: autumn and all that... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <523bb852139e.52139e523bb8@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote: > From: "clyde w. voigtlander" > Date: Friday, November 7, 2003 10:09 am > > At 06:38 AM 11/7/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > > > > >I don't remember having ever skated on clear ice. > > >Even artificial ice on which we have skated is > white, > > >or opaque. > > > I once skated on clear ice (on Squantz Pond in > Connecticut) through which we could see several fish > underneath. > > Marie Did they look back up at you, or were they Mrs. Paul's? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 11:44:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7HiP6q025096 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:44:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 83CBF1E60285; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:39:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E4451E60236 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:39:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A385A3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 12:32:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14175272 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 12:32:36 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7HWZR11596 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 12:32:35 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.74.122]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HNZSGC02.ZQY for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:26:36 -0700 Message-ID: <3FABD78C.6B27C992@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 10:34:04 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: One Bright Spot References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776E0@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > [1] Home of Larry Bird, former Boston Celtic, now Indiana Pacer President And source of the bumper sticker "French Lick isn't as interesting as it sounds." JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 11:50:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7Hoa6q025148 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:50:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 444A81E60284; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:45:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BD071E60236 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:45:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A385B7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 12:38:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14175687 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 12:38:47 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7HckR12428 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 12:38:46 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA7HcU2f020146 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:38:30 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA7HcTJC020108; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:38:29 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031107093432.00a5a5b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 09:35:04 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: One Bright Spot In-Reply-To: <3FABD78C.6B27C992@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776E0@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:34 AM 11/7/2003 -0700, John Williams wrote: >Phil Paxton wrote: > > > [1] Home of Larry Bird, former Boston Celtic, now Indiana Pacer President > >And source of the bumper sticker "French Lick isn't as interesting as it >sounds." I saw a bumper sticker yesterday that made me laugh out loud but I forgot what it said. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 11:57:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7HvF6q025206 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:57:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DA6111E60284; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:52:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 866251E60236 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:52:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A385EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 12:45:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14176219 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 12:45:20 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7HjJR13292 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 12:45:19 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.74.122]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HNZT1L02.KT5 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:39:21 -0700 Message-ID: <3FABDA8C.A9A31ECA@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 10:46:52 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Trent Lott References: <1ee.12c760f7.2cdc5757@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > > I'm sorry, but it was also on ABC news tonight. So now what you got to say? Oh, yea, like Ted Koppel's a reliable source. So what? It was on the front page of the NYT, A1, columns one and two, above the fold. It wouldn't be the first time this year they've published out-and-out fiction. > It think it's a shame that we have to waste all these lives and money we could > have used better in this country if we could have avoided it all. And at least > have TALKED about the possibility of avoiding all this misery. Think for a moment. If there's the slightest possibility that this fable is true, and inasmuch as it would have been a dream come true for all parties, indeed the answer to our prayers, WHY IN HELL KEEP IT A SECRET? If nothing else Sadaam could have blown beans on Al Ja-Zeera anytime he felt like picking up the phone. Why didn't he? (Give me me a minute to run upstairs to get some Reynolds Wrap out of the lounge cupboard.) JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 12:50:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7IoO6q025667 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 12:50:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AE6A91E60285; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 12:44:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57BEC1E60236 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 12:44:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D6DA2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:36:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14180596 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:36:52 -0500 Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.74]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7IaqR23145 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:36:52 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HNZ00808VPFVH@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 13:36:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.71] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Fri, 07 Nov 2003 13:32:50 -0500 Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 13:32:50 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: autumn and all that... To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <534486539219.539219534486@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Lynne Weber > Did they look back up at you, or were they Mrs. > Paul's? :-) Oh no, they were very much alive. There were also several ice-fishing huts on the pond. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 12:59:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7Ix36q025806 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 12:59:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E08E51E60236; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 12:54:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AC911E60234 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 12:54:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A387F0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:47:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14181502 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:47:13 -0500 Received: from tharminc.blockade.com ([216.18.57.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7IlAR25213 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:47:11 -0500 Received: from Spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31) ID MO00000E; 7 Nov 03 13:47:08 -0500 Received: from spooler by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31); 7 Nov 03 13:46:52 -0500 Received: from tharminc2 (127.0.0.1) by tharminc.blockade.com (Mercury/32 v3.31) with ESMTP ID MG00000D; 7 Nov 03 13:46:49 -0500 From: "Tony Harminc" To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:46:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: middle-classed Message-ID: <3FABA248.22693.AC47292@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3FAB1836.F4BE5E8E@maynor.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 06, 2003 at 21:57, Natalie Maynor wrote: > During the many years when I've known I'm going to take the > standard deduction rather than itemizing, I've given no less than in > years when I am going to itemize. But when I think about people like my > RRB, I realize that the tax thing does matter to some people. He > wouldn't give a penny to anybody without the tax deduction > consideration. There's a chapter in the Michael Moore book _Dude Where's My Country_ called somthing like "how to talk to your conservative inlaws". It has suggestions about showing them how all sorts of things are in there own interest. Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 13:09:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7J9O6q025955 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:09:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BFE9C1E6022F; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:04:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FD921E60285 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:04:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A38857@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:57:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14182426 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:57:33 -0500 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA7IvXR26956 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:57:33 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 10:57:32 PST Message-ID: <20031107185732.86794.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:57:32 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Re the Episcopal Church To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776EA@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Phil Paxton wrote: > If the American Catholics were to quit whining about > the confining doctrine > and create their own religion they'd have a little > more time for crackers > and juice. It wouldn't necessarily require an entirely new religion, but a papal equivalent would have to be considered - he who must be piously adored on the one hand, and capable of absorbing the whining and angry demands on the other hand. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 13:13:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7JD76q026000 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:13:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EF1641E60236; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:08:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A75301E60234 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:08:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A38889@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:01:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14182779 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:01:17 -0500 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA7J1HR27709 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:01:17 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 11:01:15 PST Message-ID: <20031107190115.87819.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:01:15 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: out o town To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200311071535.hA7FZl418160@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > Yes! > Spent the evening at the Green Mill, listening to > swing. > Thank you Tushar! > > clo Now that's just plain selfish - selfish and miserly. But I guess that's why T.S. skedaddled. He was spread too thin. Too many women, not enough time. sigh __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 13:13:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7JDw6q026007 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:13:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 482131E60236; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:09:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6B431E60234 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:09:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A38890@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:02:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14182847 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:02:08 -0500 Received: from imo-m01.mx.aol.com (imo-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.4]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7J28R27888 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:02:08 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.20.1be1d1ca (3924) for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:01:52 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <20.1be1d1ca.2cdd4620@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:01:52 EST Subject: Re: octopuses get erections To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/6/2003 7:21:35 PM, BrandyKitt@AOL.COM writes: >If you have to decide between medicine and food, what would >you choose? > But if you need BOTH to survive? What irritates the hell out of me is that this is called the "richest" country on earth. Where I come from you don't HAVE to choose. and nobody brags about the better living conditions either.In fact they complain! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 13:25:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7JPJ6q026154 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:25:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9BAEB1E60287; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:20:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0117E1E6022F for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:20:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A388F5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:13:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14183828 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:13:28 -0500 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA7JDRT29903 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:13:28 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 11:13:26 PST Message-ID: <20031107191326.82099.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:13:26 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Trent Lott To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FABDA8C.A9A31ECA@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- John Williams wrote: > (Give me me a minute to run upstairs to get some > Reynolds Wrap out of the > lounge cupboard.) I admit to being in the minority here, but can you shed some light on the Reynolds Wrap Run? In the Lounge Cupboard, yet? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 13:27:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7JR46q026161 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:27:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0FAAC1E6022F; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:22:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B2921E60285 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:22:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A388EC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:15:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14183881 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:15:13 -0500 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7JFDT30069 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:15:13 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.144.1bf8016a (3924) for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:15:01 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <144.1bf8016a.2cdd4934@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:15:00 EST Subject: Re: New Dog To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/6/2003 8:19:38 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >You also need to remember that dogs are superb imitators of their >owners! >Theo > But you left off the beginning of that statement. As I remember it, it was not meant to be nasty. If you quote me, quote it all, not only the part that you can use for your own purpose. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 13:37:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7JbB6q026245 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:37:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 915D01E60287; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:32:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE3731E6022F for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:32:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A38948@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:25:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14184623 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:25:20 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7JPJT31732 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:25:20 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:25:03 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776F7@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Re the Episcopal Church Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:24:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Lynne Weber [mailto:lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] >Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 1:58 PM >--- Phil Paxton wrote: >> If the American Catholics were to quit whining about >> the confining doctrine >> and create their own religion they'd have a little >> more time for crackers >> and juice. > >It wouldn't necessarily require an entirely new >religion, but a papal equivalent would have to be >considered - he who must be piously adored on the one >hand, and capable of absorbing the whining and angry >demands on the other hand. Of course, they couldn't make the same claim as the current pope (in terms of apostolic succession) - in a way, the current [Catholic] church boils down to the interpretation of Jesus' statement to Peter (I don't have a reference in front of me) - but I believe it's something like "You are a rock and upon this [rock] I build this church." Catholics interpret the "rock" to be Peter and Peter to have been the first Pope. Non-Catholic Christians view it as "and upon a rock I build my church." From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 13:39:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7JdH6q026271 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:39:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 634681E60287; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:34:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B76B91E6022F for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:34:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A38945@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:27:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14184838 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:27:26 -0500 Received: from web20515.mail.yahoo.com (web20515.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.232.184]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA7JRPT32162 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:27:25 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20515.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 11:27:24 PST Message-ID: <20031107192724.73394.qmail@web20515.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:27:24 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: New Dog To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <144.1bf8016a.2cdd4934@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Theo Groothof wrote: > But you left off the beginning of that statement. As > I remember it, it was > not meant to be nasty. If you quote me, quote it > all, not only the part that you > can use for your own purpose. I'm sure someone has the original text; and if it didn't come out sounding nasty, it came out sounding snide. What purpose would anyone have in misquoting you, Theo? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 13:43:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7Jht6q026316 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:43:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 339EE1E60241; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:39:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 949DD1E6022F for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:39:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D6F89@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:32:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14185121 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:32:04 -0500 Received: from imo-m03.mx.aol.com (imo-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.6]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7JW3T00421 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:32:03 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1db.13ef5c7a (3924) for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:31:52 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1db.13ef5c7a.2cdd4d28@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:31:52 EST Subject: Re: octopuses get erections To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/7/2003 3:48:29 AM, Espen.Ore@NB.NO writes: >I think detachment from hankering of all kinds is a goal in >>and of itself, carrying its own reward of peace in one's soul. I aspire >to it. I think you're absolutely right, but only if it's voluntary I believe. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 13:50:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7Jo06q026402 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:50:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 301861E60288; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:45:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C57F1E60287 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:45:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A389A3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:38:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14185530 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:38:09 -0500 Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com (web20502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA7Jc7T01383 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:38:08 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 11:38:06 PST Message-ID: <20031107193806.32913.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:38:06 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Re the Episcopal Church To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776F7@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Phil Paxton wrote: > > Of course, they couldn't make the same claim as the > current pope (in terms > of apostolic succession) - in a way, the current > [Catholic] church boils > down to the interpretation of Jesus' statement to > Peter (I don't have a > reference in front of me) - but I believe it's > something like "You are a > rock and upon this [rock] I build this church." > Catholics interpret the > "rock" to be Peter and Peter to have been the first > Pope. Non-Catholic > Christians view it as "and upon a rock I build my church." All royalty including the papacy has its skeletal closets. At some points in time, there must have been pretenders, heirs apparent and obscure. In fact, that would make an interesting research project. Were there, for example, an fitz-Clements? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 13:52:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7Jqe6q026432 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:52:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D21A81E6028C; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:47:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 382261E60288 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:47:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A389A4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:40:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14185660 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:40:49 -0500 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7JenT01740 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:40:49 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.137.274fa1e7 (3924) for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:40:38 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <137.274fa1e7.2cdd4f36@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:40:38 EST Subject: Re: New Dog To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/7/2003 5:28:45 AM, Espen.Ore@NB.NO writes: >>>And he wails -- you can hear it when you pull up sometimes. It's so sad. >>> >>You also need to remember that dogs are superb imitators of their owners! >>Theo > Thank you Espen. Doesn't this proof that I didn't mean it as a nasty remark? I guess anyone can translate it into anything they wish, but that's not MY problem. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 13:58:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7Jwn6q026526 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:58:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 118B11E6021B; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:54:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E1EF1E600C6 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:54:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D7032@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:46:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14186188 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:46:58 -0500 Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7JkvT02920 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:46:57 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.177.21e2648e (3924) for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:46:48 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <177.21e2648e.2cdd50a8@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:46:48 EST Subject: Re: reading and remembering To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/7/2003 6:42:57 AM, Prbarfoo@SYR.EDU writes: >Forgiveness granted, though unnecessary. Just setting the record straight > >:-) >BrP > Well, it means a lot to me. I hate being blamed and misunderstood for things I didn't cause or say. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 14:05:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7K596q026603 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:05:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 425BA1E60244; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:00:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A93491E6021B for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:00:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A38A0F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:53:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14186703 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:53:18 -0500 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7JrHT03990 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:53:17 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.136.26bcad97 (3924) for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:53:08 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <136.26bcad97.2cdd5223@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:53:07 EST Subject: Re: reading and remembering To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/7/2003 7:54:25 AM, 14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET writes: >Actually, the truth is that she was attributing MY words to you, not her >own. I also forgive. > >Marie > I also thank you then Marie. Now if we can only get AOL to get it's stuff straightened out, I'd be the happiest person in the USA! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 14:07:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7K7r6q026637 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:07:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F1C851E60248; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:03:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2524F1E6023C for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:03:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D7075@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:56:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14186854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:56:02 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7Ju2T04344 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:56:02 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D706D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:56:02 -0500 Message-Id: <200311071956.hA7Ju2T04344@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:56:02 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: New Dog To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:40:38 EST, Theo Groothof wrote: >In a message dated 11/7/2003 5:28:45 AM, Espen.Ore@NB.NO writes: > >>>>And he wails -- you can hear it when you pull up sometimes. It's so sad. >>>> >>>You also need to remember that dogs are superb imitators of their owners! >>>Theo >> >Thank you Espen. Doesn't this proof that I didn't mean it as a nasty remark? How? I interpret as you telling Marie that her dog is imitating her, and that's why it's wailing. IOW, if Marie weren't such a whiner, she wouldn't have to worry about her dog being one. I know I'm not the only who took it that way. >I guess anyone can translate it into anything they wish, but that's not MY >problem. >Theo It never is, Theo. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 14:09:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7K9r6q026682 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:09:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DAB2A1E60244; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:05:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A4211E6021B for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:05:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A38A33@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:58:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14187026 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:58:02 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7Jw1T04721 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:58:01 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-110.gwi.net [216.195.150.110]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA7JvxGn048137 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:58:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031107145732.00ba4e10@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 14:58:10 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <1db.13ef5c7a.2cdd4d28@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Oh my goodness. Now nasty AOL put my words into Espen's mouth. >In a message dated 11/7/2003 3:48:29 AM, Espen.Ore@NB.NO writes: > > >I think detachment from hankering of all kinds is a goal in > >>and of itself, carrying its own reward of peace in one's soul. I aspire > >to it. > >I think you're absolutely right, but only if it's voluntary I believe. >Theo bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 14:16:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7KGs6q026813 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:16:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6F5B81E600C6; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:12:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B23BB1E6023E for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:12:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A38A77@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:05:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14187636 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:05:03 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA7K52T06095 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:05:02 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 15:05:01 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 15:04:56 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Re the Episcopal Church Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hA7KGs6q026813 Another interpretation is that the scene word play with Peter's name. BrP >>> PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM 11/07/03 02:24PM >>> Of course, they couldn't make the same claim as the current pope (in terms of apostolic succession) - in a way, the current [Catholic] church boils down to the interpretation of Jesus' statement to Peter (I don't have a reference in front of me) - but I believe it's something like "You are a rock and upon this [rock] I build this church." Catholics interpret the "rock" to be Peter and Peter to have been the first Pope. Non-Catholic Christians view it as "and upon a rock I build my church." From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 14:25:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7KPf6q026872 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:25:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B71DF1E6023E; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:20:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF6911E6023D for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:20:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A38AED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:13:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14188520 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:13:50 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA7KDnT07962 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:13:49 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 15:13:48 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 15:13:36 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: octopuses get erections Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hA7KPf6q026872 eh? Oh 'ell BrP ! >>> bonniev@GWI.NET 11/07/03 02:58PM >>> Oh my goodness. Now nasty AOL put my words into Espen's mouth. >In a message dated 11/7/2003 3:48:29 AM, Espen.Ore@NB.NO writes: > > >I think detachment from hankering of all kinds is a goal in > >>and of itself, carrying its own reward of peace in one's soul. I aspire > >to it. > >I think you're absolutely right, but only if it's voluntary I believe. >Theo bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 14:30:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7KUZ6q026922 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:30:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 40C201E60243; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:25:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 422091E6023D for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:25:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A38B19@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:18:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14189101 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:18:43 -0500 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA7KIgT09405 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:18:42 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 12:18:40 PST Message-ID: <20031107201840.95976.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 12:18:40 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Re the Episcopal Church To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Paul Barfoot wrote: > Another interpretation is that the scene word play > with Peter's name. I have always felt this was undeniably "word play". Does anyone have the Aramaic for the word rock? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 14:32:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7KW76q026936 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:32:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 468B01E60243; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:27:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107C41E6023D for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:27:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A38B16@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:20:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14189225 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:20:15 -0500 Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (imo-r05.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7KKDT09688 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:20:14 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.ba.493bcbf7 (3924) for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:20:01 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:20:00 EST Subject: Re: more re being poor To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/7/2003 10:20:51 AM, karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: >Paul said that he sees poverty as something explicityly not chosen. Forced >upon you by circumstances. I'm not sure I agree. People choose poverty for a number of reasons. > >On the other hand, it's very clear to me that true poverty results in fewer >choices, such as an inability to obtain health care. > Being poor and choosing to do without things, or feeling without the need to replace everything with the latest and newest is not the same. Having to count every penny to buy food or medication, and a place to live however, is! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 14:36:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7Kas6q027017 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:36:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0D3D31E60244; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:32:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E30631E6023D for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:32:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D7140@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:25:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14189539 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:25:02 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7KP1T10461 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:25:01 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D7163@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:25:01 -0500 Message-Id: <200311072025.hA7KP1T10461@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:25:01 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: more re being poor To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:20:00 EST, Theo Groothof wrote: >In a message dated 11/7/2003 10:20:51 AM, karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: > >>Paul said that he sees poverty as something explicityly not chosen. Forced >>upon you by circumstances. I'm not sure I agree. People choose poverty for a >number of reasons. >> >>On the other hand, it's very clear to me that true poverty results in fewer >>choices, such as an inability to obtain health care. >> >Being poor and choosing to do without things, or feeling without the need to >replace everything with the latest and newest is not the same. Sorry, I don't understand this sentence. What is not the same as what? Are you saying that you agree with Paul about poverty not being something one chooses? >Having to count >every penny to buy food or medication, and a place to live however, is! Is WHAT? Frankly, Theo, if you think you can teach me anything about poverty, you are mistaken. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 14:37:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7KbM6q027027 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:37:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7A3F11E60244; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:32:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AEE21E60243 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:32:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A38B3D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:25:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14189594 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:25:30 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7KPTT10584 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:25:29 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003110720252101300r16dge>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:25:21 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031107122413.04dc3ad8@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 12:24:57 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Re the Episcopal Church In-Reply-To: <20031107201840.95976.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber writes, >Does anyone have the Aramaic for the word rock? Check out: http://www.saint-mike.org/apologetics/qa/answers/defending_faith/p0309020078.html Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 14:39:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7KdC6q027045 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:39:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 835EF1E60245; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:34:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 942821E60244 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:34:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A38B53@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:27:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14189679 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:27:20 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7KRJT10839 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:27:20 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:27:08 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776FC@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Re the Episcopal Church Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:27:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Lynne Weber [mailto:lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] >Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 3:19 PM >--- Paul Barfoot wrote: >> Another interpretation is that the scene word play >> with Peter's name. > >I have always felt this was undeniably "word play". >Does anyone have the Aramaic for the word rock? I think the word Petra fits in here somehow. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 14:52:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7Kqm6q027215 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:52:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2D7F01E60244; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:48:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEFF01E60287 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:48:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A38BDE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:40:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14190633 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:40:47 -0500 Received: from web20513.mail.yahoo.com (web20513.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA7KekT12719 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:40:46 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20513.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 12:40:44 PST Message-ID: <20031107204044.18766.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 12:40:44 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Re the Episcopal Church To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031107122413.04dc3ad8@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Peter Kaminski wrote: > Lynne Weber writes, > > >Does anyone have the Aramaic for the word rock? > > Check out: > http://www.saint-mike.org/apologetics/qa/answers/defending_faith/p0309020078.html > > Pete Thank you, Pete!! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 15:01:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7L1H6q027329 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:01:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 704691E60245; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:56:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E0E11E60244 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:56:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A38C02@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:49:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14191166 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:49:25 -0500 Received: from web20510.mail.yahoo.com (web20510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA7KnOT14144 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:49:24 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 12:49:22 PST Message-ID: <20031107204922.10149.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 12:49:22 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Re the Episcopal Church To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776FC@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Phil Paxton wrote: > >From: Lynne Weber [mailto:lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] > >Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 3:19 PM > > >--- Paul Barfoot wrote: > >> Another interpretation is that the scene word > play > >> with Peter's name. > > > >I have always felt this was undeniably "word play". > >Does anyone have the Aramaic for the word rock? > > I think the word Petra fits in here somehow. Indeed, it is THE word that fits in. To my mind ,that's what makes it word play (or symbolism, I guess, to be more reverent). Regardless of how one feels about the Bible, its authenticity, holiness, historical accuracy, etc., there are some things that have even made it through all the translations down to us with some vehemence (is that the word?) As though those words rang true and could not be replaced by others. To me, this is one of those cases. I feel that Christ said to Peter something very like, "Peter, YOU are my rock - the rock on which I shall build my church." It is my "feeling" that was spoken to Peter. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 15:04:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7L4D6q027396 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:04:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 787CF1E60244; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:59:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BF421E60243 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:59:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A38C28@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:52:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14191424 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:52:21 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7KqKT14642 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:52:20 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031107205214.HNEP1852.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:52:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC05F9.EA3B8D12@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 14:52:09 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <3FAB1836.F4BE5E8E@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > Natalie, thank you for your clarification. I don't think I distorted your > statement at all - in fact, was your term. Your distortion was not in the use of . It was suggesting that I had said that you don't have all the STUFF that middle-classed people usually have and then launching into discussion of cars, houses, furniture, etc. You ended by asking me what else you should have. I found that way weird. I had said nothing about usual possessions, which is what your examples of stuff were, of either the or other classes. > It may be a mark of my non-middle-classness that I do not keep a lot of > cash in cash acounts - I keep some for emergencies, but not a lot. If > I have it, I invest it. Fwiw, I think you are very much middle-classed, by all the usual scales (economic, social, etc.) I disagreed with Bonnie's assessment that you were . Actually, I think she said the wealthiest Wordsler, but I would disagree with that also. Unrelated to you -- just a general-interest question: What is considered being these days? When is a term going to be invented that is between millionaire and billionaire? Hmm. I guess multi-millionaire is one, isn't it. How many millions does one have to have these days to be considered wealthy? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 15:05:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7L5j6q027435 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:05:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2CE671E60245; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:01:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45B1A1E60243 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:01:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A38C25@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:53:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14191530 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:53:53 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7KrqT14840 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:53:52 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031107205346.HNUJ1852.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:53:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC065A.A4284192@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 14:53:46 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776E2@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > >I am soooo mad. > > Why? Because they got rid of Savage? Yes, and because the Boy Scout woman is back. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 15:06:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7L6D6q027445 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:06:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3D9621E60245; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:01:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3367A1E60243 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:01:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A38C1F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:54:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14191586 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:54:21 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7KsKT14900 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:54:20 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031107205414.HNYW1852.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:54:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC0676.F907175A@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 14:54:14 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776E2@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU PS: And because I can't stand Jon and his shit-eating grin. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 15:08:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7L8E6q027476 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:08:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 817A31E60248; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:03:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E33F1E60287 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:03:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A38C23@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:56:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14191647 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:56:22 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7KuMT15131 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:56:22 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D720A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:56:22 -0500 Message-Id: <200311072056.hA7KuMT15131@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:56:22 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Survivor To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:54:14 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >PS: And because I can't stand Jon and his shit-eating grin. Is he the wimpy blonde guy that does nothing? Curly hair? I hate him. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 15:08:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7L8J6q027479 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:08:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7B9951E60288; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:03:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C5A61E60248 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:03:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A38C3E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:56:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14191651 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:56:27 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7KuQT15137 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:56:26 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031107205620.HOWG1852.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:56:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC06F5.B60748A4@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 14:56:21 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776E4@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > >see a lot more of the nice side of him. > > Probably not - John is no threat to anyone so he was spared. Those who are I've wondered about Jon in relation to the editing -- about whether he's really as obnoxious as we're being made to believe. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 15:14:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7LEu6q027541 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:14:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 756CF1E60245; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:10:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A781F1E60243 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:10:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A38C62@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:03:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14192005 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:03:04 -0500 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7L33T16070 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:03:04 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.154.270a2c94 (3924) for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:02:54 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <154.270a2c94.2cdd627d@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:02:53 EST Subject: Re: Trent Lott To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/7/2003 11:45:50 AM, williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU writes: > Think for a moment. If there's the slightest possibility that this fable is true, and inasmuch as it would have been a dream come true for all parties,indeed the answer to our prayers, WHY IN HELL KEEP IT A SECRET? If nothing else Sadaam could have blown beans on Al Ja-Zeera anytime he felt like picking up the phone. >Why didn't he? > I truly don't care what you think or believe. It's a personal choice. I don't know what's true or not either, but what if it is? Think about that for a minute too. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 15:15:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7LFm6q027563 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:15:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 82FA41E60287; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:11:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D5121E60243 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:11:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A38C4B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:03:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14192053 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:03:56 -0500 Received: from heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net (heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.189]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7L3tT16150 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:03:56 -0500 Received: from sdn-ap-021txhousp0002.dialsprint.net ([65.177.16.2] helo=earthlink.net) by heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AIDlb-0004NC-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 13:03:40 -0800 Message-ID: <410-22003115721343592@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: dormarbil@earthlink.net X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2003.2.92.0 (Windows) From: "Doris Smith" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Re: Survivor Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:03:43 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-ELNK-Trace: 0f572b91323e03d8e9ef466adc09f07e7e972de0d01da940cf5c9753076d03757f27267a77d94713350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I can't stand him either I can't understand how he stays - seems as if he'd be voted off. For a little while last night I was sure he would be, but.................. Doris S > > I've wondered about Jon in relation to the editing -- about whether he's > really as obnoxious as we're being made to believe. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 15:28:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7LSM6q027682 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:28:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 74FF11E60287; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:23:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBF2B1E60245 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:23:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D72CC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:16:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14193409 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:16:30 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7LGTT18444 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:16:29 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:16:22 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776FD@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: middle-classed Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:16:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] >Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 3:52 PM >"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: >> >> Natalie, thank you for your clarification. I don't think I >distorted your >> statement at all - in fact, was your term. > >Your distortion was not in the use of . It was >suggesting that I had said that you don't have all the STUFF that >middle-classed people usually have and then launching into >discussion of >cars, houses, furniture, etc. You ended by asking me what else you >should have. I found that way weird. I had said nothing about usual >possessions, which is what your examples of stuff were, of either the > or other classes. > >> It may be a mark of my non-middle-classness that I do not >keep a lot of >> cash in cash acounts - I keep some for emergencies, but not a lot. If >> I have it, I invest it. > >Fwiw, I think you are very much middle-classed, by all the usual scales >(economic, social, etc.) I disagreed with Bonnie's assessment that you >were . Actually, I think she said the wealthiest >Wordsler, but >I would disagree with that also. > >Unrelated to you -- just a general-interest question: What is >considered being these days? When is a term going to be >invented that is between millionaire and billionaire? Hmm. I guess >multi-millionaire is one, isn't it. How many millions does one have to >have these days to be considered wealthy? In the dailies & periodicals I read which have references to economic status, there is no longer a Middle Class. There are references to the Lower Class and the Upper Class but no Middle Class. In terms of references to geography; i.e., counties, towns, cities, and combinations & breakouts of those, there are references to average income, but it's specific to median, not mean or mode. The questions regarding millionaire and billionaire are interesting. The issue of Forbes "Wealthiest..." is still on many newsstands and I haven't read it (I think it's the issue before the pot leaf on the cover), but I believe within the previous year or two the number of US billionaires the number 421 sticks out but it could just as easily be twice that. Even Oprah is in on it. She's regarded as the first US African American female billionaire. When I had a contract in Omaha four or five years ago, I kept my eye out and got to talk to a lot of happy people - the breeding ground of Warren Buffet. When he first got going, he was a college professor and decided to go it on his own. Lots of locals tossed in $5k, $10k, etc. and are now painfully wealthy - not billions but enough to keep them occupied trying to figure out how to spend it. The company I work for was started by the guy who invented voicemail. He was listed as one of the "50 Most Available Bachelors" in one of the issues of People, Us, or one of those types of peridicals. It was stated that he was feeling more comfortable now that his net worth is in the nine figure status. Three Christmases ago, we had the party at his house which was still being built. The Great Room is|was three stories high, the ceiling was sort of checkerboarded and in patterns of every-so-many having hand-carved animals affixed to the base. The wine cellar has hand/palm electronic recognition to keep people out who shouldn't be drinking. The room also has a salt water aquarium 4'x6'x21'. His home theatre has won numerous awards for "Best Home Theatre" (for those costing $150k or more), containing the "world's most expensive speakers". I think he's actually got three home theatres. Three kitchens, no regular tvs - all plasmas. His sons (three, in a shared custody arrangement) have a treehouse in their bedroom). He's got a mahogany, 28' slide at the front door. He's able to gain access to his house and all of its controls from any Internet accessible location, including cameras, environmental controls, alarms, etc. The final price has never been revealed but it has been estimated to be in the neighborhood of anywhere from $25 to $40 million. (this is in the Bill Gates realm when his house was finished) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 15:31:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7LVC6q027710 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:31:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1EB311E60287; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:26:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 838B81E60253 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:26:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D72DE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:19:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14193653 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:19:21 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7LJJT19123 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:19:20 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031107211909.YQGU1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:19:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC0C4D.B4B41DB2@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 15:19:09 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Trent Lott References: <1ee.12c760f7.2cdc5757@aol.com> <3FABDA8C.A9A31ECA@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > page of the NYT, A1, columns one and two, above the fold. It wouldn't be the > first time this year they've published out-and-out fiction. My memory of their story was that it was reporting the story that had surfaced -- reporting on what was being claimed, not offering any opinion on whether it was fact or fiction. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 15:37:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7Lb96q027794 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:37:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 05D861E60255; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:31:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5353D1E6028E for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:31:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D72E3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:24:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14194057 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:24:22 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA7LOLT20111 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:24:22 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 16:24:21 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 16:23:47 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Re the Episcopal Church Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hA7Lb96q027794 I don't know what would be irreverent about word play. I like to believe that Jesus was skilled at using words to make his point and that he appreciated a good joke. He was certainly a good story teller and a lot of good story telling relies on creative word play. BrP >>> lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM 11/07/03 03:49PM >>> > > I think the word Petra fits in here somehow. Indeed, it is THE word that fits in. To my mind ,that's what makes it word play (or symbolism, I guess, to be more reverent). From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 15:44:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7Lir6q027853 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:44:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 75EE91E6028D; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:40:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01DA51E60288 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:40:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D7332@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:33:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14194758 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:33:01 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7LX0T21518 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:33:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031107213255.YYLC1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:32:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC0F87.A4F3ED94@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 15:32:55 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Dog References: <137.274fa1e7.2cdd4f36@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > > In a message dated 11/7/2003 5:28:45 AM, Espen.Ore@NB.NO writes: > > >>>And he wails -- you can hear it when you pull up sometimes. It's so sad. > >>> > >>You also need to remember that dogs are superb imitators of their owners! > >>Theo > > > Thank you Espen. Doesn't this proof that I didn't mean it as a nasty remark? ?????? > I guess anyone can translate it into anything they wish, but that's not MY > problem. > Theo How exactly would you translate it? It seems quite straightforward to me. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 15:50:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7Loc6q027891 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:50:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C42111E60255; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:45:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C9191E6028D for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:45:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D735B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:38:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14195221 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:38:45 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7LcjT22674 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:38:45 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A38DA7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:38:45 -0500 Message-Id: <200311072138.hA7LcjT22674@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:38:45 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: reading and remembering To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:34:33 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Theo Groothof wrote: >> >Actually, the truth is that she was attributing MY words to you, not her >> >own. I also forgive. >> > >> >Marie >> > >> I also thank you then Marie. Now if we can only get AOL to get it's stuff >> straightened out, I'd be the happiest person in the USA! >> Theo > >I'm curious about AOL's magic. How exactly is it managing to put >Marie's words in BrP's mouth, etc? Don't forget--Theo is a computer expert, so she knows more about how this works than we do. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 15:52:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7Lqf6q027914 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:52:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 30CFB1E60290; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:47:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBB311E6028F for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:47:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D7394@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:40:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14195413 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:40:50 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7Lent23156 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:40:49 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031107214044.ZENV1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:40:44 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC115C.22B0736@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 15:40:44 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: more re being poor References: <200311072025.hA7KP1T10461@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:20:00 EST, Theo Groothof wrote: > > >Being poor and choosing to do without things, or feeling without the need > to > >replace everything with the latest and newest is not the same. > > Sorry, I don't understand this sentence. What is not the same as what? > Are you saying that you agree with Paul about poverty not being something > one chooses? I read it as being poor is not the same thing as choosing to do without, with the part about not feeling the need to replace things being an expansion of or elaboration on choosing to do without. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 16:07:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7M7S6q028021 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:07:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3FA401E60287; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:02:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 048231E60255 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:02:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D73ED@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:55:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14196997 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:55:36 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:liML9isnCbBtrUQq2bOQoXcIVhvvEntJ@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7Ltat27158 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:55:36 -0500 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F79A2FE58 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:55:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3F952382E for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:55:34 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3FAC06F5.B60748A4@maynor.net> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776E4@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-New-MIllennium: Been there, blogged that X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Neal-Stephenson: Paper is a really advanced technology Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:55:31 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Survivor Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I've wondered about Jon in relation to the editing -- about whether he's >really as obnoxious as we're being made to believe. > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) According to post-boot interviews thus far, what we see on TV is the real Jon in all his obnoxiousness. But apparently he does have a redeeming virtue -- he makes his campmates laugh. As to why he hasn't been booted yet, it's pretty obvious: every time Drake went to a tribal council, there was always a bigger target in the room. I don't think anyone expects Jon to win any of the individual immunity challenges, and therefore he can be picked off at the convenience of whoever emerges as the dominant group, once he isn't of use to them any more. Ken Miller Rob Cesterino School of Diplomatic Studies From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 16:08:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7M8j6q028055 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:08:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 83CFE1E60288; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:04:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 396351E60287 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:04:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D73FB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:56:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14197120 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:56:53 -0500 Received: from web20515.mail.yahoo.com (web20515.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.232.184]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA7Lurt27393 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:56:53 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20515.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 13:56:52 PST Message-ID: <20031107215652.2377.qmail@web20515.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:56:52 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Survivor To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776FE@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Phil Paxton wrote: > When I was a Boy Scout we would have done things to > a woman scout leader > such that she'd think twice about doing such things. When did female Boy Scout leaders come on the scene? About what year, I mean? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 16:16:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7MG96q028127 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:16:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 969BF1E60294; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:11:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60E781E60288 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:11:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A38C6A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:08:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14192189 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:08:46 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7L8jT16696 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:08:45 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031107210837.YLBU1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:08:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC09D5.49F4FF14@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 15:08:37 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: more re being poor References: <200311071620.hA7GKW428537@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > >Having a spartan room is not the same thing as being poor. > > True. But it is exactly what Paul was talking about in his lovely statement > that was so precise, I'm not going to risk misquoting. I read something sort of like it in a story in today's student newspaper about an alum who just gave a bunch of money to the College of Engineering. He didn't claim that he preferred but did say something about not having great needs and preferring to give the money away. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 16:16:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7MG96q028126 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:16:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 94D201E60293; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:11:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C23B1E60287 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:11:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A38C60@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:05:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14191622 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:05:32 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7KtVT15006 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:55:31 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA7Ksn3W023163 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:54:49 -0500 Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:55:29 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <3FAC05F9.EA3B8D12@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FAB1836.F4BE5E8E@maynor.net> <3FAC05F9.EA3B8D12@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Fwiw, I think you are very much middle-classed, by all the usual scales >(economic, social, etc.) I disagreed with Bonnie's assessment that you So what are middle-classed characteristics exactly? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 16:16:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7MG96q028130 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:16:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A092E1E60296; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:11:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62C591E60290 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:11:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A38CD3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:14:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14193233 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:14:13 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7LE7T18027 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:14:08 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031107211358.YNQF1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:13:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC0B16.9BDDAE7E@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 15:13:58 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: No Problem References: <5676fa56b8b5.56b8b55676fa@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > > Have we talked about "No problem" here before? I enjoyed this article from the New York Observer: http://www.observer.com/pages/story.asp?ID=8120# Why did you enjoy it? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 16:16:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7MG96q028134 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:16:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A78B31E60291; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:11:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 724DB1E60292 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:11:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A38CF2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:17:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14193541 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:17:32 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA7LHVT18768 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:17:31 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 16:17:30 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 16:17:19 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Re the Episcopal Church Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hA7MG96q028134 and Kephas in Aramaic - they both mean "rock" BrP >>> PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM 11/07/03 03:27PM >>> >From: Lynne Weber [mailto:lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] >Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 3:19 PM >--- Paul Barfoot wrote: >> Another interpretation is that the scene word play >> with Peter's name. > >I have always felt this was undeniably "word play". >Does anyone have the Aramaic for the word rock? I think the word Petra fits in here somehow. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 16:16:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7MG96q028137 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:16:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CFE6D1E60295; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:11:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E40B1E60288 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:11:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A38D38@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:27:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14194293 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:27:41 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7LReT20585 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:27:40 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031107212735.YURH1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:27:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC0E47.3253FB6C@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 15:27:35 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Dog References: <144.1bf8016a.2cdd4934@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > >You also need to remember that dogs are superb imitators of their > >owners! > >Theo > > > But you left off the beginning of that statement. As I remember it, it was > not meant to be nasty. If you quote me, quote it all, not only the part that you > can use for your own purpose. > Theo I don't know whether you meant it to be nasty, but it certainly came across as nasty. I didn't leave anything out of what you wrote. You wrote the above statement in response to what Marie had said about Laszlo's howling. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 16:16:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7MG96q028129 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:16:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9EBE71E60287; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:11:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C1301E60291 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:11:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A38CFF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:17:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14193500 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:17:08 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7LH7T18624 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:17:08 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:17:02 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776FE@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Survivor Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:16:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] >Phil Paxton wrote: > >> >I am soooo mad. >> >> Why? Because they got rid of Savage? > >Yes, and because the Boy Scout woman is back. When I was a Boy Scout we would have done things to a woman scout leader such that she'd think twice about doing such things. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 16:16:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7MG96q028146 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:16:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E67CB1E60290; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:11:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B565E1E60292 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:11:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A38DD4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:44:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14195744 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:44:17 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7LiHt24025 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:44:17 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031107214411.ZHEU1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:44:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC122B.C8B4F013@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 15:44:11 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <3FAB1836.F4BE5E8E@maynor.net> <3FAC05F9.EA3B8D12@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >Fwiw, I think you are very much middle-classed, by all the usual scales > >(economic, social, etc.) I disagreed with Bonnie's assessment that you > > So what are middle-classed characteristics exactly? I'm not sure that I understand your question. I've never thought about middle-classed . Or are you talking about the scales used by sociologists in putting people into classes -- the education/income/etc scales? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 16:16:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7MG96q028150 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:16:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1B83E1E60296; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:11:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DED171E60297 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:11:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A38E02@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:47:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14196019 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:47:35 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7LlZt24693 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:47:35 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:47:23 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77700@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: middle-classed Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:47:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] >Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 4:21 PM >Tony Harminc wrote: >> has suggestions about showing them how all sorts of >> things are in there own interest. > >Doesn't work with the rich. They would prefer to pay for their own >protections, streets, etc. etc. than pay taxes for such >things. Exactly >how the street thing would work, I don't know. I guess maybe all >streets would be toll roads. The problem with some forms of taxation is once they're in the pockets of the body doing the taxing is they can then do with it what they want, not what it was originally earmarked for. Money has a strange way of being rerouted when it's made available in bulk. The other issue I have with the current form of taxation is this: lots of money goes to the Feds then some of it comes back to the states. Why shouldn't the Feds take what they need, then the state collect what they need? I find it rather silly for State A's citizens to pay $6 billion in taxes and have $2 billion of it come back for various programs conducted by the state. Why not limit the Fed to collecting only the $4 billion net value? They've established the budget, they know what they've planned, so why the chicanery? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 16:16:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7MG96q028148 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:16:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 17E2F1E60291; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:11:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D988A1E60288 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:11:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A38DD9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:45:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14195802 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:45:18 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7LjIt24215 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:45:18 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031107214513.ZHYH1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:45:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC1269.6460B242@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 15:45:13 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: <200311072056.hA7KuMT15131@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > >PS: And because I can't stand Jon and his shit-eating grin. > > Is he the wimpy blonde guy that does nothing? Curly hair? > > I hate him. Correct. But he does some things: he plots and lies and sneers and grins. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 16:16:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7MG96q028136 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:16:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CA2731E60293; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:11:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AF5C1E60295 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:11:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A38D06@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:21:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14193776 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:21:39 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7LLXT19470 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:21:38 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031107212128.YRJZ1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:21:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC0CD8.78EDCE76@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 15:21:28 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <3FABA248.22693.AC47292@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tony Harminc wrote: > has suggestions about showing them how all sorts of > things are in there own interest. Doesn't work with the rich. They would prefer to pay for their own protections, streets, etc. etc. than pay taxes for such things. Exactly how the street thing would work, I don't know. I guess maybe all streets would be toll roads. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 16:16:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7MG96q028141 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:16:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D2E461E60298; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:11:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A32B21E60297 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:11:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A38D74@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:31:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14194568 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:31:21 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7LVKT21112 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:31:21 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031107213115.YXDC1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:31:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC0F23.A1D3BD79@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 15:31:15 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Re the Episcopal Church References: <20031107193806.32913.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > All royalty including the papacy has its skeletal > closets. At some points in time, there must have been > pretenders, heirs apparent and obscure. Yes. Remember when Faustus and Mephistophiles let the pretender pope out of jail? Although I'm not sure that Faustus was really running around invisible and boxing the ears of the pope and stuff, there was indeed a historical . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 16:16:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7MG96q028142 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:16:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DCF881E60294; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:11:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC7A31E60290 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:11:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A38D92@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:34:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14194856 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:34:39 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7LYdT21769 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:34:39 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031107213433.YZUJ1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:34:33 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC0FE9.53F1F9E5@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 15:34:33 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: reading and remembering References: <136.26bcad97.2cdd5223@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > >Actually, the truth is that she was attributing MY words to you, not her > >own. I also forgive. > > > >Marie > > > I also thank you then Marie. Now if we can only get AOL to get it's stuff > straightened out, I'd be the happiest person in the USA! > Theo I'm curious about AOL's magic. How exactly is it managing to put Marie's words in BrP's mouth, etc? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 16:16:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7MGA6q028151 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:16:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1FC7F1E60288; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:11:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E327E1E60287 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:11:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A38DFE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:48:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14196110 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:48:48 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7Lmlt24978 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:48:47 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031107214842.ZKLZ1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:48:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC133A.B3D15371@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 15:48:42 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: <410-22003115721343592@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Smith wrote: > > I can't stand him either > > I can't understand how he stays - seems as if he'd be voted off. For a > little while last night I was sure he would be, but.................. That's why I've been wondering about the editing -- about whether the picture of him we're getting is worse than he appears to the people there. Some of his sneering and nasty remarks have been just to the camera, for example. It's true, as somebody pointed out earlier, that they don't see him as a threat, but the obnoxious people usually go early anyway. The pattern seems to be to get rid of the weak and wimpy and the obnoxious first, then start weeding out the most serious threats. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 16:16:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7MGA6q028152 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:16:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 292D51E60287; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:11:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDCCF1E60292 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:11:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A38EAA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:59:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14197422 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:59:30 -0500 Received: from web20513.mail.yahoo.com (web20513.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA7LxTt27851 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:59:29 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20513.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 13:59:29 PST Message-ID: <20031107215929.35026.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:59:29 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Re the Episcopal Church To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Paul Barfoot wrote: > and Kephas in Aramaic - they both mean "rock" > > BrP Thanks. Does Kephas have any linguistic offspring I would recognize? > >I have always felt this was undeniably "word play". > >Does anyone have the Aramaic for the word rock? > > I think the word Petra fits in here somehow. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 16:16:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7MGA6q028154 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:16:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 31C511E60292; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:11:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01E941E60293 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:11:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A38F11@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:02:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14198234 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:02:12 -0500 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA7M2Ct28590 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:02:12 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 14:02:11 PST Message-ID: <20031107220211.56161.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:02:11 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Re the Episcopal Church To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Paul Barfoot wrote: > > I don't know what would be irreverent about word > play. I like to believe that Jesus was skilled at > using words to make his point and that he > appreciated a good joke. He was certainly a good > story teller and a lot of good story telling relies > on creative word play. Yes, I like that. And who better to play with God's words? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 16:18:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7MIe6q028175 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:18:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C532B1E60288; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:13:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 938631E60247 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:13:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A38F38@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:06:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14198693 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:06:49 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7M6nt29303 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:06:49 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D74A3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:06:48 -0500 Message-Id: <200311072206.hA7M6nt29303@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:06:49 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Re the Episcopal Church To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:59:29 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Paul Barfoot wrote: >> and Kephas in Aramaic - they both mean "rock" >> >> BrP > > >Thanks. Does Kephas have any linguistic offspring I >would recognize? cephalic From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 16:24:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7MOQ6q028221 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:24:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 327D21E60290; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:19:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E60381E60288 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:19:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A38F75@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:12:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14199107 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:12:34 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7MCYt30111 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:12:34 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <200311072212280160087q9pe>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:12:28 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031107140347.03224e50@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 14:12:03 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Survivor In-Reply-To: <20031107215652.2377.qmail@web20515.mail.yahoo.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776FE@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber writes, >When did female Boy Scout leaders come on the scene? >About what year, I mean? Perhaps around 1936 : >1936 Registrations of den mothers was made "optional"; before this year, >it was not permitted. m-w sez "den mother" dates to 1946: >Main Entry:den mother >Function:noun >Date:1946 >: a female adult leader of a Cub Scout den; also : a person seen in the >role of leader or protector of a group Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 16:28:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7MST6q028263 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:28:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3C0FF1E60288; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:23:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 007801E60247 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:23:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A38F92@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:16:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14199356 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:16:37 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7MGbt30610 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:16:37 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HO05LR02.HUS for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:10:39 -0700 From: "John Williams" To: English Language Discussion Group Message-ID: <32a8d1329bc0.329bc032a8d1@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 15:10:39 -0700 X-Mailer: Netscape Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en Subject: Re: Trent Lott X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > My memory of their story was that it was reporting the story that had > surfaced -- reporting on what was being claimed, not offering any > opinion on whether it was fact or fiction. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Well, now, that's pretty much immaterial, isn't it. No matter how preposterous anything is, if Theo believes something to be true it is, reality be damned. QED. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 16:36:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7MaZ6q028341 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:36:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DBA3F1E60290; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:31:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A927C1E6028F for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:31:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A38FB1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:24:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14199813 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:24:44 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7MOit31658 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:24:44 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031107222438.QNBN1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:24:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC1BA7.965AA27D@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 16:24:39 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Joe Called Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Joe Trippi just called me and urged me to vote in the Dean campaign-money poll. I wish he had been really Joe Trippi himself instead of a tape since I would like to have asked him why my participation is needed. I chose not to vote simply because I don't know which is wiser, to eschew the gov't funds in hopes of raising more money or to go with the funds and the limits. If I had an opinion, I would've voted right away. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 16:40:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7Mej6q028414 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:40:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 10D7C1E60290; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:36:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D37411E60247 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:36:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A38FF5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:28:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14200290 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:28:53 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7MSrt32437 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:28:53 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:28:46 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77702@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Survivor Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:28:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Lynne Weber [mailto:lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] >Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 4:57 PM >--- Phil Paxton wrote: >> When I was a Boy Scout we would have done things to >> a woman scout leader >> such that she'd think twice about doing such things. > >When did female Boy Scout leaders come on the scene? >About what year, I mean? I have no idea. Probably whenever they had problems getting enough male leaders. They've done a bunch of silly things over the years. They started changing the merit badge requirements so ranks could be earned by those who couldn't get into the countryside for camping & whatnot. With all of the available high-adventure places to camp, they could take one two-week trip during their tenure and get all the badges at once. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 16:42:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7MgG6q028428 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:42:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4760C1E60257; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:37:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 139501E60247 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:37:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D7544@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:30:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14200371 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:30:24 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7MUOt32633 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:30:24 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA7MUMk0016548 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:30:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FAC1CB6.8010004@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 16:29:10 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Re the Episcopal Church References: <200311072206.hA7M6nt29303@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:59:29 -0800, Lynne Weber > wrote: > > >>--- Paul Barfoot wrote: >> >>>and Kephas in Aramaic - they both mean "rock" >>> >>>BrP >>> >> >>Thanks. Does Kephas have any linguistic offspring I >>would recognize? >> > > cephalic Keph means "head" in Greek. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 16:42:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7Mgl6q028451 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:42:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5B9721E60257; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:38:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 282841E60247 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:38:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A38FF4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:30:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14200422 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:30:50 -0500 Received: from web20515.mail.yahoo.com (web20515.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.232.184]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA7MUot32685 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:30:50 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20515.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 14:30:50 PST Message-ID: <20031107223050.8369.qmail@web20515.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:30:50 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: reading and remembering To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FAC0FE9.53F1F9E5@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > I'm curious about AOL's magic. How exactly is it > managing to put > Marie's words in BrP's mouth, etc? > I still say a doppelganger is the most charitable and whimsical explanation of this "magich". __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 16:43:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7MhH6q028456 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:43:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 202901E60257; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:38:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF34D1E60247 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:38:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A39007@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:31:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14200459 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:31:25 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7MVPt32754 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:31:25 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031107223120.QQEL1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:31:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC1D38.A987F56A@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 16:31:20 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776FD@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > In the dailies & periodicals I read which have references to economic > status, there is no longer a Middle Class. There are references to the > Lower Class and the Upper Class but no Middle Class. That seems weird to me. I realize that the rich are getting richer and the poor poorer, but surely there's still a big middle chunk of people. > The questions regarding millionaire and billionaire are interesting. The > issue of Forbes "Wealthiest..." is still on many newsstands and I haven't > read it (I think it's the issue before the pot leaf on the cover), but I > believe within the previous year or two the number of US billionaires the > number 421 sticks out but it could just as easily be twice that. Even Oprah I would definitely call a billionaire wealthy. But I wouldn't call a millionaire wealthy anymore -- certainly comfortable but not . I was just curious about where either of whatever kind draw the line or where ordinary people like us do. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 16:44:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7MiY6q028473 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:44:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1DCCB1E6025D; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:39:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E15341E60257 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:39:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A39019@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:32:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14200520 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:32:42 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7MWgt00488 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:32:42 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:32:37 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77703@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Survivor Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:32:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Peter Kaminski [mailto:kaminski@ISTORI.COM] >Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 5:12 PM >Lynne Weber writes, > >>When did female Boy Scout leaders come on the scene? >>About what year, I mean? > >Perhaps around 1936 >: > >>1936 Registrations of den mothers was made "optional"; before >this year, >>it was not permitted. > >m-w sez "den mother" dates to 1946: > >>Main Entry:den mother >>Function:noun >>Date:1946 >>: a female adult leader of a Cub Scout den; also : a person >seen in the >>role of leader or protector of a group A den mother and a troop leader are not the same thing. There are cub scouts, webelos (sp?), and boy scouts. Boy scouts are 11-18. During my tenure as a Boy Scout, there'd have been a lot of situations it wouldn't have been very good for a lady to have been around. If you're out in the middle of nowhere and you're washing clothes, hanging them to dry, not always dressed to the nines, etc. I don't know an adult female would have been comfortable, either. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 16:48:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7MmK6q028523 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:48:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E89721E6025D; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:43:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A64C31E60247 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:43:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A39029@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:36:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14200808 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:36:29 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7MaOt01067 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:36:24 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031107223618.QSSQ1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:36:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC1E63.9D30E60E@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 16:36:19 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Re the Episcopal Church References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: > > > I don't know what would be irreverent about word play. I like to believe that Jesus was skilled at using words to make his point and that he appreciated a good joke. He was certainly a good story teller and a lot of good story telling relies on creative word play. Did you hear about the man traveling through Ohio(?) who stopped to spend a night in Wheaton, the very conservative home of the very conservative religious college? He went to a small cafe and ordered a hamburger and a beer. The waitress looked shocked and said, "I can bring you the hamburger, but we don't believe in beer here." He ate the hamburger and pulled out a cigar while he was ordering some pie. The waitress said, "I'll bring you your pie, but you have to put away the cigar. We don't believe in smoking here." After he finished the pie, he said to the waitress, "It's still early. What's there to do in Wheaton? Is there a good movie on or a place to go dancing?" She looked shocked and said, "Sir, we don't believe in movies or dancing here." He said to her, "What *do* you believe in here?" She replied, "We believe in the second coming of Jesus." The man shook his head and said, "I hate to tell you, but if he's been here once, there's no way he's going to come back." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 16:49:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7Mn76q028527 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:49:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EB9561E6028F; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:44:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B89E01E60257 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:44:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D756E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:37:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14200875 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:37:16 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7MbGt01215 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:37:16 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031107223710.QTEB1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:37:10 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC1E97.41EF2AB9@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 16:37:11 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: reading and remembering References: <200311072138.hA7LcjT22674@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > >I'm curious about AOL's magic. How exactly is it managing to put > >Marie's words in BrP's mouth, etc? > > Don't forget--Theo is a computer expert, so she knows more about how this > works than we do. I know. That's why I'm hoping she'll explain it to us. I find it fascinating. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 16:49:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7Mns6q028531 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:49:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 90B781E6025D; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:45:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FD951E60257 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:45:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D7579@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:38:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14200903 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:38:03 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7Mc2t01311 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:38:02 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:37:57 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77704@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: middle-classed Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:37:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] >Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 5:31 PM >Phil Paxton wrote: > >> In the dailies & periodicals I read which have references to economic >> status, there is no longer a Middle Class. There are >references to the >> Lower Class and the Upper Class but no Middle Class. > >That seems weird to me. I realize that the rich are getting richer and >the poor poorer, but surely there's still a big middle chunk of people. well, if it used to be this way: LC | MC | UC and they eliminate the middle class, then somehow, you end up with two cells, regardless of the delineation: LC | UC >> The questions regarding millionaire and billionaire are >interesting. The >> issue of Forbes "Wealthiest..." is still on many newsstands >and I haven't >> read it (I think it's the issue before the pot leaf on the >cover), but I >> believe within the previous year or two the number of US >billionaires the >> number 421 sticks out but it could just as easily be twice >that. Even Oprah > >I would definitely call a billionaire wealthy. But I wouldn't call a >millionaire wealthy anymore -- certainly comfortable but not . >I was just curious about where either of whatever kind >draw the line or where ordinary people like us do. Point taken on the issue of millionaire. It's said that if you retire at 60 and life a reasonably long life, you'll need $3-$6 million to live as you did before you retired. (this is for "regular" people) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 16:50:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7Moh6q028536 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:50:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6BDE11E6025D; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:45:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 333571E60257 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:45:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A39025@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:38:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14200935 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:38:51 -0500 Received: from web20515.mail.yahoo.com (web20515.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.232.184]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA7Mcpt01400 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:38:51 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20515.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 14:38:51 PST Message-ID: <20031107223851.9253.qmail@web20515.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:38:51 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Survivor To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031107140347.03224e50@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU No, no, Pete. Den mothers were quite another thing. Den mothers were the distaff mascots of cub and boy scout troops. They baked cookies and mended camp jackets, etc. They never really led anyone anywhere. A scout leader, on the other hand, has official duties and powers. I don't think a woman could have been a leader during the 1930's. It just wasn't done. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 16:54:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7MsV6q028563 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:54:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 122FE1E6025D; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:49:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9C911E60257 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:49:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3904F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:42:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14201123 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:42:39 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7Mgct01800 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:42:38 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:42:27 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77705@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Re the Episcopal Church Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:42:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] >Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 5:36 PM >Did you hear about the man traveling through Ohio(?) who stopped to >spend a night in Wheaton, the very conservative home of the very (I went to Taylor and have been told my group of funloving friends are responsible for half of the existing "thou shalt not" rules currently in existence) A man climbed up on his roof as a much heavier than usual rainstorm continued for several days. On two occasions, men came along in rowboats and offered to take him along and he said, "God will help me - I believe he will provide assistance." Finally, he's on top of the chimney as the water is even higher. A helicopter comes along and offers to rescue him and he provides the same denial. The helicopter leaves, the water continues to rise, and the man shouts out to the sky, "God! Why won't you rescue me?" God responds, "I sent two boats and a helicopter, what else do you want?" From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 16:55:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7Mt16q028566 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:55:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0C0941E60247; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:50:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEAC91E6025D for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:50:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3904D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:43:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14201209 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:43:09 -0500 Received: from web20513.mail.yahoo.com (web20513.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA7Mh8t01896 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:43:08 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web20513.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 14:43:07 PST Message-ID: <20031107224307.46430.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:43:07 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Re the Episcopal Church To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FAC1CB6.8010004@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Rita Chapman wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:59:29 -0800, Lynne Weber > > > wrote: > > > > > >>--- Paul Barfoot wrote: > >> > >>>and Kephas in Aramaic - they both mean "rock" > >>> > >>>BrP > >>> > >> > >>Thanks. Does Kephas have any linguistic offspring > I > >>would recognize? > >> > > > > cephalic > > > Keph means "head" in Greek. > > > > -- > Rita Rouvalis Chapman > rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org > http://www.etext.org/~rita Thanks, y'all. I knew cephalic > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 16:56:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7Muc6q028586 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:56:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 99CA71E60290; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:51:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52B881E6028F for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:51:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D759D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:44:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14201264 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:44:46 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7Mikt02066 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:44:46 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031107224441.QWHW1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:44:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC2059.4E3CCDC5@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 16:44:41 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77700@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > The other issue I have with the current form of taxation is this: lots of > money goes to the Feds then some of it comes back to the states. Why > shouldn't the Feds take what they need, then the state collect what they > need? I find it rather silly for State A's citizens to pay $6 billion in > taxes and have $2 billion of it come back for various programs conducted by > the state. Why not limit the Fed to collecting only the $4 billion net > value? They've established the budget, they know what they've planned, so > why the chicanery? I need to go insert medicine into Spencer's ears. A quick answer: when the money is federal money -- even though it came originally from the state that it's going back to, there is often supervision to make sure it gets spent on what it is aimed at. I think that's a good thing. Re the Feds taking what they need and then letting the states collect what they need, I must say that either many Mississippians are quite unselfish and kind or are dumb. The calls for less federal interference, for states' rights, etc. etc. must indicate pure-heartedness here in the poorest state in the country that gets huge amounts of federal money -- iow, you taxpayers in rich states are helping pay some of our Mississippi bills. Yet many Mississippians cry out for being being independent -- for lessening federal involvement. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 17:10:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7NAp6q028772 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:10:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7DDE81E60290; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:06:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1DF1E6028F for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:06:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3909E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:58:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14201990 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:58:59 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7Mwxt04030 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:58:59 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:58:48 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77706@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: middle-classed Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:58:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] >Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 5:45 PM >Phil Paxton wrote: > >> The other issue I have with the current form of taxation is >this: lots of >> money goes to the Feds then some of it comes back to the states. Why >> shouldn't the Feds take what they need, then the state >collect what they >I need to go insert medicine into Spencer's ears. A quick >answer: when >the money is federal money -- even though it came originally from the >state that it's going back to, there is often supervision to make sure >it gets spent on what it is aimed at. I think that's a good thing. > >Re the Feds taking what they need and then letting the states collect >what they need, I must say that either many Mississippians are quite >unselfish and kind or are dumb. The calls for less federal >interference, for states' rights, etc. etc. must indicate >pure-heartedness here in the poorest state in the country that >gets huge >amounts of federal money -- iow, you taxpayers in rich states are >helping pay some of our Mississippi bills. Yet many Mississippians cry >out for being being independent -- for lessening federal involvement. I'm pasting this back in to make sure I read it correctly the first time: >answer: when >the money is federal money -- even though it came originally from the >state that it's going back to, there is often supervision to make sure >it gets spent on what it is aimed at. I think that's a good thing. Excuse me? How are the Feds any more capable of ensuring the money will be spent "correctly" than a state will? I would have almost believed you if you'd said, "the best way people who have needs to be provided by the Feds is to create a Fed'l gov't so large that even with unnecessary bloat and waste, there will be enough distributable resources which will work their way to the people who need them the most." That's almost bordering on the "tide" theory (when the tide comes in all the boats float) although the tide is usually assigned to supply-siders and they are *not* Liberal, Democrats, or anything left of center (or anything even leaning to the center). From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 17:11:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7NBK6q028776 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:11:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 035EC1E6022F; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:06:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81C81E60257 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:06:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A390A3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:59:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14202035 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:59:28 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7MxSt04120 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:59:28 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA7MxQW1016111 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:59:27 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA7MxPWq016092 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:59:26 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031107145550.00a4dbf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 14:55:59 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Re the Episcopal Church In-Reply-To: <200311072206.hA7M6nt29303@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:06 PM 11/7/2003 -0500, you wrote: >On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:59:29 -0800, Lynne Weber >wrote: > > >--- Paul Barfoot wrote: > >> and Kephas in Aramaic - they both mean "rock" > >> > >> BrP > > > > > >Thanks. Does Kephas have any linguistic offspring I > >would recognize? > >cephalic Not caudal? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 17:14:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7NER6q028795 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:14:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A3EB51E60290; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:09:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63B561E6028F for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:09:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A390E6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:02:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14202522 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:02:35 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7N2Yt04572 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:02:34 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031107230225.RFLF1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:02:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC247D.6B2E3E07@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 17:02:21 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Trent Lott References: <32a8d1329bc0.329bc032a8d1@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > > > My memory of their story was that it was reporting the story that had > > surfaced -- reporting on what was being claimed, not offering any > > opinion on whether it was fact or fiction. > > -- > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > Well, now, that's pretty much immaterial, isn't it. No matter how > preposterous anything is, if Theo believes something to be true it is, > reality be damned. QED. No, it's not immaterial to your point about lies. The fact that that story suddenly emerged is news. What they reported was the news of its emergence, iirc. It's not a lie to say that the story has come along. My point was about the reporting of the story, not about Theo's insistence that if PBS or ABC or whoever tells *about* the story, it means the story is true. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 17:22:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7NMN6q028853 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:22:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E3D361E60292; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:17:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7C111E60291 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:17:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A39111@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:10:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14202938 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:10:31 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7NAVt05407 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:10:31 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031107231025.RJEF1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:10:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC2662.E89F5672@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 17:10:26 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77704@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > >That seems weird to me. I realize that the rich are getting richer and > >the poor poorer, but surely there's still a big middle chunk of people. > > well, if it used to be this way: > > LC | MC | UC > > and they eliminate the middle class, then somehow, you end up with two > cells, regardless of the delineation: > > LC | UC I guess what seems weird to me is that the labeling jumps so abruptly from "lower" to "upper." My way of looking at things wants a middle. > Point taken on the issue of millionaire. It's said that if you retire at 60 > and life a reasonably long life, you'll need $3-$6 million to live as you > did before you retired. (this is for "regular" people) I've read things like that and have found them strange. Wouldn't it depend on how you lived before you retired? I realize that you say that's for "regular" people, by which I assume you mean not the wealthy or the poverty-stricken. But there's a huge range of people in between -- and I really don't believe that all of those people will need $3 million or more to live as they were living before retirement. But then maybe it means that's how much money it would take totally -- as in adding up all of one's sources of income like pension, ss, returns on investments, etc. I've never thought in that kind of terms -- like how much money all of that would add up to over a longish period of time. I was thinking that meant that you would need to have $3-$6 million in savings/investments before retiring if you hoped to live as you were used to living. And that I do not believe is true for most people. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 17:25:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7NPj6q028894 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:25:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A3E691E60290; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:21:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F8F71E6025B for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:21:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A39120@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:13:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14203081 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:13:47 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7NDlt05722 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:13:47 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031107231341.RKJV1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:13:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC2725.BB520E01@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 17:13:41 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: <20031107223851.9253.qmail@web20515.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > No, no, Pete. Den mothers were quite another thing. > Den mothers were the distaff mascots of cub and boy > scout troops. They baked cookies and mended camp > jackets, etc. They never really led anyone anywhere. I thought den mothers were the "leaders" of cub scouts. I didn't think boy scout troops had den mothers. Weren't they cub scout dens and boy scout troops? My vague memory (of my brother's childhood) was that cub scouts met at times like weekday afternoons with mothers (housewives) in charge of them -- den mothers. Boy scouts, otoh, met at night with men as their leaders. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 17:38:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7NcN6q029011 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:38:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 493521E60293; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:33:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 192591E60292 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:33:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A39150@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:26:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14203605 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:26:31 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7NQVt06752 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:26:31 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:26:19 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77707@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: middle-classed Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:26:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] >Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 6:10 PM >Phil Paxton wrote: > >> >That seems weird to me. I realize that the rich are >getting richer and >> >the poor poorer, but surely there's still a big middle >chunk of people. >> >> well, if it used to be this way: >> >> LC | MC | UC >> >> and they eliminate the middle class, then somehow, you end >up with two >> cells, regardless of the delineation: >> >> LC | UC > >I guess what seems weird to me is that the labeling jumps so abruptly >from "lower" to "upper." My way of looking at things wants a middle. The mathematician in me wants to point out when there's delineation, it doesn't matter whether you have three, two, or combine three into two. It's nothing more than a line of demarcation. >> Point taken on the issue of millionaire. It's said that if >you retire at 60 >> and life a reasonably long life, you'll need $3-$6 million >to live as you >> did before you retired. (this is for "regular" people) > >I've read things like that and have found them strange. Wouldn't it >depend on how you lived before you retired? I realize that you say >that's for "regular" people, by which I assume you mean not the wealthy >or the poverty-stricken. But there's a huge range of people in between >-- and I really don't believe that all of those people will need $3 >million or more to live as they were living before retirement. > But then >maybe it means that's how much money it would take totally -- as in >adding up all of one's sources of income like pension, ss, returns on >investments, etc. I've never thought in that kind of terms -- like how >much money all of that would add up to over a longish period >of time. I >was thinking that meant that you would need to have $3-$6 million in >savings/investments before retiring if you hoped to live as you were >used to living. And that I do not believe is true for most >people. You wouldn't likely have that much in savings. Anyone saving earnestly (as presented on television or in magazines) are doing things which will regenerate itself more than regular savings would. The sad part is that if you have that much amassed, you'd likely be living [in retirement] on the interest and the principal would remain untouched. After it's your turn to take a dirt bath, the gov't would then meet with the next-of-kin to collect on the estate tax. And on that subject, I'm surprised more people don't scream bloody murder. Those who have just enough that the gov't breaks up the estate makes what they have remaining essentially worthless. And those who have more have already had it secreted away by estate attorneys & accountants such that the taxes involved are almost negligible and it slides down to the next generation (or two) with little or no attention. So if Mom & Dad have built a nice house to pass along to the next generation after they have passed on don't necessarily realize it'll have to be sold in order to pay the estate taxes. To see the opposing side of that, I'll use a local example. The NFL team here, the Colts, were owned by the father of the current owner. Before he died, they restructured the assets such that when his son inherited it, he wouldn't have to sell it in order to pay the taxes. So this means instead of passing this off to someone else to enjoy owning for their time on earth, he gets to hog it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 17:40:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7NeI6q029025 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:40:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B565D1E60292; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:35:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 835871E6025B for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:35:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A39172@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:28:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14203645 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:28:26 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7NSQt06891 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:28:26 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031107232820.RQQP1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:28:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC2A95.500AFCB9@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 17:28:21 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77706@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > I'm pasting this back in to make sure I read it correctly the first time: > > >answer: when > >the money is federal money -- even though it came originally from the > >state that it's going back to, there is often supervision to make sure > >it gets spent on what it is aimed at. I think that's a good thing. > > Excuse me? > > How are the Feds any more capable of ensuring the money will be spent > "correctly" than a state will? They might not be in all cases, but I think they are in most cases. I remember watching one of our absurd gubernatorial debates shortly after having watched one of the national Democratic party debates and marveling at what doofuses our two major gubernatorial candidates (the others were excluded) appeared to be even though it is a fact that these men were really both much better than we've had in some elections. Or I think of Congress in comparison with our state Legislature. We have some good legislators. I don't mean to suggest that they're all bad. But if they're interested in political office, why are they state legislators rather than national office-holders? There are no doubt various answers to that question, but one among them (i.e., one that would apply to some) is "they're not good enough." Iow, I trust the federal gov't more than the state gov't, even though I am certainly well aware that the federal gov't does sucky things -- it has been sucking like crazy for the past few years. One specific example of a federal program that has been threatening to become locally handled is Headstart. (Has anything happened on that while I wasn't paying attention? It just occurred to me that I haven't heard much about it lately.) Supposedly if it does fall into state hands, the money will be given to the states by the feds but with strict rules to make sure it is spent on the goals of Headstart. If the feds backed out of that totally, leaving the states to decide whether they wanted Headstart at all, the Republican racists of my state might well just wipe it out entirely -- following my RRB's philosophy that the poor don't deserve to be helped. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 17:47:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA7Nl16q029083 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:47:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BE8171E60295; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:42:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F6071E60294 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:42:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A391AA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:35:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14204241 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:35:09 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7NZ9t07969 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:35:09 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-110.gwi.net [216.195.150.110]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA7NZ7Ar041046 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:35:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031107182908.01f44c30@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 18:35:19 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Survivor In-Reply-To: <3FAC133A.B3D15371@maynor.net> References: <410-22003115721343592@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >It's true, as somebody pointed out earlier, that >they don't see him as a threat, but the obnoxious people usually go >early anyway. The pattern seems to be to get rid of the weak and wimpy >and the obnoxious first, then start weeding out the most serious >threats. -- Natalie The reason they didn't vote him off last night was because of tribe loyalty. After the merge, old tribe loyalties tend to persist. If the former Drake tribe members would have voted off Jon that would have left five Morgans and four Drakes. The Morgans could have picked off the Drakes one by one. Last night's vote was also motivated by the fact that the Drake tribe could easily get Lilli to come to their side and have the majority. So now each Drake tribe member has a better chance at going to the final two as they sit back and vote off the former Morgans, one by one. They can get around to Jon later. Lesson for women (and men) of a certain age: Smile and you will look younger. Lilli's face looks all droopy and old in her perpetual pout. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 18:06:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA806U6q029360 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:06:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5FE171E60256; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:01:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31A1B1E60251 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:01:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A391FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:54:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14205227 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:54:38 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f97.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.97]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7Nsct09976 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:54:38 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:54:33 -0800 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 23:54:32 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Trent Lott Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 18:54:32 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Nov 2003 23:54:33.0063 (UTC) FILETIME=[7DC4DF70:01C3A58A] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Gee, the two of you have something in common then. >From: John Williams > > Well, now, that's pretty much immaterial, isn't it. No matter how >preposterous anything is, if Theo believes something to be true it is, >reality be damned. QED. > >JMW _________________________________________________________________ Crave some Miles Davis or Grateful Dead? Your old favorites are always playing on MSN Radio Plus. Trial month free! http://join.msn.com/?page=offers/premiumradio From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 18:14:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA80EW6q029464 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:14:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 62D981E6025B; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:09:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 347181E60251 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:09:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A39237@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:02:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14205631 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:02:40 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f14.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA802et10916 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:02:40 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:02:35 -0800 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 08 Nov 2003 00:02:34 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: middle-classed Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 19:02:34 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2003 00:02:35.0128 (UTC) FILETIME=[9D1A2780:01C3A58B] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It is strange. Assuming even a 4% rate of return, a couple with 3 million bucks in capital would be faring much better than the average working couple in the U.S. >From: Natalie Maynor Phil: > > Point taken on the issue of millionaire. It's said that if you retire >at 60 > > and life a reasonably long life, you'll need $3-$6 million to live as >you > > did before you retired. (this is for "regular" people) Natalie: >I've read things like that and have found them strange. Wouldn't it _________________________________________________________________ Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $26.95. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 18:15:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA80FL6q029469 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:15:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6E6511E6028B; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:10:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FC1E1E6025B for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:10:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A39239@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:03:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14205660 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:03:28 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA803St10992 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:03:28 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:03:22 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77708@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: middle-classed Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:03:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] >Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 6:28 PM >They might not be in all cases, but I think they are in most cases. I >remember watching one of our absurd gubernatorial debates shortly after >having watched one of the national Democratic party debates and >marveling at what doofuses our two major gubernatorial candidates (the >others were excluded) appeared to be even though it is a fact >that these >men were really both much better than we've had in some >elections. Or I >think of Congress in comparison with our state Legislature. We have >some good legislators. I don't mean to suggest that they're all bad. >But if they're interested in political office, why are they state >legislators rather than national office-holders? There are no doubt >various answers to that question, but one among them (i.e., one that >would apply to some) is "they're not good enough." They must think no one else is good enough, either. It's been well established the Founding Fathers did not intend politicians to hold that job as a full-time, permanent career. The intent was for someone to become elected, serve as best as they could, then return to their life and continue while someone else took their turn. They didn't think anyone would try to superglue their backends to the chairs and play Strom Thurmond (the part about staying in office until you're incompetent, not necessarily fathering children in your sixties). When faced with the issue of term limits to impose the original plan, those at the federal level have said, "There would be such a power vacuum no one would know enough about how to keep the system working." As far as whether someone is good enough base upon the level, it's like declaring a college professor is inherently better than a grade school teacher because they've moved to a higher level. That's as much sophistry as stating there are more college professors who suck because it's that much more difficult - after all, anyone can be a grade school teacher, and thus, competent. ;) In terms of accountability and incompetency, which do think is easier: removing an undesired congress critter or someone at the state level? At the state level, you only have to have a region of the state to oust one person whereas someone at the Senate level would require the entire state to drag them out - much more difficult. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 18:17:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA80HV6q029499 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:17:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 38B941E60256; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:12:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A21D1E60251 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:12:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3922F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:05:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14205714 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:05:39 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA805dt11216 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:05:39 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:05:34 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77709@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Survivor Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:05:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: bonniev [mailto:bonniev@GWI.NET] >Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 6:35 PM >>It's true, as somebody pointed out earlier, that >>they don't see him as a threat, but the obnoxious people usually go >>early anyway. The pattern seems to be to get rid of the weak >and wimpy >>and the obnoxious first, then start weeding out the most serious >>threats. -- Natalie > >The reason they didn't vote him off last night was because of tribe >loyalty. After the merge, old tribe loyalties tend to persist. If the >former Drake tribe members would have voted off Jon that would >have left >five Morgans and four Drakes. The Morgans could have picked >off the Drakes >one by one. Last night's vote was also motivated by the fact that the >Drake tribe could easily get Lilli to come to their side and have the >majority. So now each Drake tribe member has a better chance >at going to >the final two as they sit back and vote off the former Morgans, one by >one. They can get around to Jon later. > >Lesson for women (and men) of a certain age: Smile and you will look >younger. Lilli's face looks all droopy and old in her perpetual pout. Lil's got some self-confidence issues to overcome as well - notice how she was totally surprised when she was voted back in. I saw that as rather difficult to understand - what they saw in her she didn't see in herself. If she can't believe it how can she convince the others to keep her in the game? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 18:18:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA80IA6q029503 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:18:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A8C331E6025E; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:13:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AAD71E60256 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:13:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A39232@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:06:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14205741 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:06:18 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA806Ht11306 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:06:17 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:06:12 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7770A@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Trent Lott Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:06:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Marty Rosen [mailto:meeberphobia@HOTMAIL.COM] >Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 6:55 PM >Gee, the two of you have something in common then. > >>From: John Williams >> >> Well, now, that's pretty much immaterial, isn't it. No >matter how >>preposterous anything is, if Theo believes something to be true it is, >>reality be damned. QED. It may be true that you see pink elephants but it doesn't mean they are real. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 18:19:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA80JU6q029509 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:19:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ACFC31E6025E; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:14:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F1F01E60256 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:14:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A39237@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:07:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14205781 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:07:38 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA807ct11482 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:07:38 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:07:32 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7770B@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: middle-classed Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:07:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Marty Rosen [mailto:meeberphobia@HOTMAIL.COM] >Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 7:03 PM >It is strange. Assuming even a 4% rate of return, a couple >with 3 million >bucks in capital would be faring much better than the average >working couple >in the U.S. And taxes would enter into it again. I've read the top 3% of the people (by income) pay 50% of the taxes. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 18:27:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA80Rx6q029594 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:27:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F1E1D1E6028B; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:23:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD4441E60256 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:23:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3926C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:16:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14206034 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:16:07 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA80G7t12190 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:16:07 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA80G68b024127 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:16:06 -0500 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.103]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA80G5fC027514 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:16:05 -0500 Message-ID: <00c201c3a58d$80849450$677a8083@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: Trent Lott Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:16:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The difference is, Martin, your reality exists with a bib... firmly ensconced. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Rosen" > Gee, the two of you have something in common then. > > >From: John Williams > > > > Well, now, that's pretty much immaterial, isn't it. No matter how > >preposterous anything is, if Theo believes something to be true it is, > >reality be damned. QED. > > > >JMW > > _________________________________________________________________ > Crave some Miles Davis or Grateful Dead? Your old favorites are always > playing on MSN Radio Plus. Trial month free! > http://join.msn.com/?page=offers/premiumradio From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 18:29:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA80TK6q029601 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:29:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B69391E60290; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:24:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7885D1E60251 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:24:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A39272@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:17:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14206097 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:17:28 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA80HRt12348 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:17:28 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108001722.SLOT1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:17:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC3612.6318C567@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 18:17:22 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77707@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > >was thinking that meant that you would need to have $3-$6 million in > >savings/investments before retiring if you hoped to live as you were > >used to living. And that I do not believe is true for most > >people. > > You wouldn't likely have that much in savings. Anyone saving earnestly (as But that isn't the answer to my question. Is the $3-$6 million talking about the total amount one would spend over a long number of years of retirement, regardless of the sources (i.e., from pension/ss/investments/whatever), or is it talking about how much you should have accumulated before you retire? > presented on television or in magazines) are doing things which will > regenerate itself more than regular savings would. The reason I say savings/investments is that what produces the most income varies at times. I managed to pay off the mortgage on my previous house (which is now my rental house) on the basis of absurdly high interest rates back fifteen or twenty years ago. I put every penny I could scrounge up into CDs that were getting things like 17% compounded daily -- and I went into high gear in scrounging by teaching lots of extra courses at night at our Meridian branch, etc. So I would say that during that period "regular savings" did quite well. For the most part, though, it is well known that the stock market has higher returns than things like CDs. (I haven't had a "savings account" since I was in my twenties. If that's what you mean by "regular savings," I don't know much about that subject except that it is probably a wise move for somebody very young and without much knowledge of finances but that it is not something I think of as for anybody much beyond teenaged years.) But my main point here is to say that I lump savings/investments as a -- well, as a lump -- as in money that is put somewhere with the idea of its increasing in value. I was wondering about whether a "regular person" would have to have $3-$6 million in such places at the time of retirement in order to live comfortably. I contend not. > The sad part is that if > you have that much amassed, you'd likely be living [in retirement] on the > interest and the principal would remain untouched. After it's your turn to > take a dirt bath, the gov't would then meet with the next-of-kin to collect > on the estate tax. And on that subject, I'm surprised more people don't > scream bloody murder. Those who have just enough that the gov't breaks up > the estate makes what they have remaining essentially worthless. I'm not sure what you mean. Why does it make what they have remaining essentially worthless? > And those > who have more have already had it secreted away by estate attorneys & > accountants such that the taxes involved are almost negligible and it slides > down to the next generation (or two) with little or no attention. Yes. My RRB&SIL (that's my Rich Republican Brother & Sister-in-Law) have all kinds of stuff set up to minimize the estate tax on their son. At the age of 21 he already owned a $5-million house in Vail, among other things. And they have some kind of life insurance policy the sole purpose of which is to pay the estate taxes for him on all the other stuff he'll inherit. > So if Mom > & Dad have built a nice house to pass along to the next generation after > they have passed on don't necessarily realize it'll have to be sold in order > to pay the estate taxes. I guess this would be true in places like California, but in the rest of the country there are plenty of nice houses that are less than a million dollars. And if their estate is over the million mark, the current level for paying estate taxes, and they don't understand that their heirs will have to pay the estate taxes, then they're pretty dumb. They could do as my RRB&SIL have done and take out life insurance policies for that purpose. > To see the opposing side of that, I'll use a local > example. The NFL team here, the Colts, were owned by the father of the > current owner. Before he died, they restructured the assets such that when > his son inherited it, he wouldn't have to sell it in order to pay the taxes. > So this means instead of passing this off to someone else to enjoy owning > for their time on earth, he gets to hog it. How is that different from any other kind of inheritance? Why shouldn't somebody else get to enjoy that nice house Mom & Dad built? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 18:29:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA80Tu6q029619 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:29:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DA8EC1E6029A; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:25:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC2D71E60251 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:25:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3926A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:18:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14206129 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:17:57 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA80Hvt12391 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:17:57 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <20031108001750016007h0a2e>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 00:17:50 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031107152440.03103e80@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 16:17:24 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Survivor In-Reply-To: <20031107223851.9253.qmail@web20515.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031107140347.03224e50@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber writes, >A scout leader, on the other hand, has official duties and powers. I >don't think a woman could have been a leader during the 1930's. It just >wasn't done. As a prescriptionist, you should appreciate that you asked, "When did female (Boy Scout) leaders come on the scene?" (my parens), not "When did female (scout leaders) (or 'scoutmasters') come on the scene?" And as m-w defines "den mother" as "a female adult (leader)..." :) Seriously, though, from : >In the fall of 1973, the BSA allowed females to serve as Cubmasters. and >In 1977, the Narragansett Council (Providence, RI) registered a woman as >Scoutmaster of a Troop within that Council because in that community, no >man wanted to step forward and work with a longstanding unit in that local >Council; the woman did. The battle became a national issue and led to the >decision by the BSA's National Executive Board to admit women as leaders >OTHER than Scoutmasters or Assistants, as WEBELOS Den Leaders or >Assistants, or as Friends and Counselors to Lone Scouts. Although the >announcement was publicized and sent to the field, very few Councils >implemented the policy. This decision was reannouced in 1987, and the BSA >National Executive Board removed the "female exclusion" from Scouting >totally, starting with the fall of 1989. (After winning a Supreme Court >decision in favor of the policy excluding females.) Also see , , and the story of Catherine Pollard , who served as a unregistered scoutmaster starting in 1971, and who legally challenged the BSA in a case that went all the way to Connecticut Supreme Court. She lost there in 1987, but the BSA changed its mind in 1988. There were female scoutmasters in the UK Scouts as early as 1913, e.g.: . Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 18:31:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA80VA6q029627 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:31:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2998D1E60290; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:26:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECE3B1E6025E for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:26:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A39272@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:19:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14206213 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:19:18 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA80JIt12571 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:19:18 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108001913.SMHG1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:19:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC3681.3AD8206D@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 18:19:13 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: <410-22003115721343592@earthlink.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031107182908.01f44c30@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > So now each Drake tribe member has a better chance at going to > the final two as they sit back and vote off the former Morgans, one by > one. They can get around to Jon later. Have any of the earlier Survivors stuck that closely to original tribe lines? Iow, do you really think it's going to come down to tribe loyalty? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 18:39:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA80d96q029718 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:39:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2A08A1E6028B; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:34:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E71A81E6025E for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:34:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3927D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:27:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14206491 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:27:17 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA80RGt13291 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:27:16 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA80RBe6018946 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:27:14 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001901c3a58f$0a5736a0$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <410-22003115721343592@earthlink.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031107182908.01f44c30@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: Re: Survivor Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:27:06 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >It's true, as somebody pointed out earlier, that > >they don't see him as a threat, but the obnoxious people usually go > >early anyway. The pattern seems to be to get rid of the weak and wimpy > >and the obnoxious first, then start weeding out the most serious > >threats. -- Natalie Honest to God, when I read this I didn't know if you were talking about Survivor or about the Democrat debates, etc. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 18:43:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA80hs6q029756 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:43:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4A9AF1E60292; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:39:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 192421E60256 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:39:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D778C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:32:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14206346 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:32:01 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA80M1t12900 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:22:01 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA80LK3W007596 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:21:20 -0500 Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:22:00 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <3FAC122B.C8B4F013@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FAB1836.F4BE5E8E@maynor.net> <3FAC05F9.EA3B8D12@maynor.net> <3FAC122B.C8B4F013@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> >Fwiw, I think you are very much middle-classed, by all the usual scales >> >(economic, social, etc.) I disagreed with Bonnie's assessment that you >> >> So what are middle-classed characteristics exactly? > >I'm not sure that I understand your question. I've never thought about >middle-classed . Or are you talking about the scales >used by sociologists in putting people into classes -- the >education/income/etc scales? I simply want to know what you mean "by all the usual scales (economic, social, etc.)."> Or - what are the facts about me that make me middle-classed in your estimation - when by your standards I do not have enough money/investments to be middle-class. How much would I have to have to be middle-classed? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 18:48:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA80mU6q029770 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:48:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DB5ED1E60293; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:43:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD6971E60292 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:43:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D778E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:36:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14206712 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:36:22 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA80aMt13835 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:36:22 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id C41412B911; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:36:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B14602B90D for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:36:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:36:21 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: $25 per week Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU plus $1.50 per minute for national coverage. Cell phone rental. Am I getting a reasonable price? Please do not research, just blab away with your educated impressions. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 18:55:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA80tk6q029825 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:55:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 31B591E6028B; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:51:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 036A71E6025E for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:51:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A392B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:43:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14206889 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:43:51 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA80hpt14287 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:43:51 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA80hosg011749 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:43:51 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:44:21 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1914958279.20031107184421@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Survivor In-Reply-To: <410-22003115721343592@earthlink.net> References: <410-22003115721343592@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 07, 2003, Doris Smith wrote: > I can't understand how he stays - seems as if he'd be voted off. Most of his obnoxiousness is directly to the camera. Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 18:56:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA80uN6q029829 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:56:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 35D481E6025E; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:51:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 072931E60256 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:51:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A392AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:44:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14206987 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:44:30 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA80iUt14544 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:44:30 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-110.gwi.net [216.195.150.110]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA80iRGp046012; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:44:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031107194352.00b4c168@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 19:44:21 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Trent Lott In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:54 PM 11/7/2003 -0500, Marty Rosen wrote: >Gee, the two of you have something in common then. > >>From: John Williams >> >> Well, now, that's pretty much immaterial, isn't it. No matter how >>preposterous anything is, if Theo believes something to be true it is, >>reality be damned. QED. >> >>JMW Well, have you ever seen both of them at the same party? cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 19:00:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA810H6q029845 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:00:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4B9C51E60292; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:55:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1785A1E6028B for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:55:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A392D0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:48:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14207111 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:48:24 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA80mOt14823 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:48:24 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-110.gwi.net [216.195.150.110]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA80mMGn046761 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:48:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031107194711.00bc3b38@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 19:48:34 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Survivor In-Reply-To: <3FAC3681.3AD8206D@maynor.net> References: <410-22003115721343592@earthlink.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031107182908.01f44c30@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Have any of the earlier Survivors stuck that closely to original tribe >lines? Iow, do you really think it's going to come down to tribe >loyalty? -- Natalie I don't know if this one will or not. But I do remember that, for awhile after the merge, other installments of Survivor did indeed follow tribal lines. In fact, I remember the last show got rather boring for awhile as they methodically picked off members of the other tribe. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 19:02:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA812E6q029850 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:02:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 71CDD1E6025E; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:57:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F5D11E60256 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:57:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A392D4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:50:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14206796 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:50:21 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA80eLt14106 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:40:21 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA80df3W011127 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:39:41 -0500 Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:40:21 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: $25 per week In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >plus $1.50 per minute for national coverage. Cell phone rental. > >Am I getting a reasonable price? Please do not research, just blab away >with your educated impressions. Is this a joke? I pay $42 a month for 700 minutes - and get free roaming most places/most times. Why rent instead of buy? Am I missing something? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 19:02:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA812q6q029854 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:02:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2A78A1E6028B; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:58:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF7121E6025E for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:58:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A392D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:50:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14207174 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:50:59 -0500 Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA80oxt14974 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:50:59 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.70.3476db25 (24895) for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:50:46 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <70.3476db25.2cdd97e6@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:50:46 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] $25 per week To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/7/2003 6:37:04 PM Central Standard Time, aborkin@RAHUL.NET writes: << plus $1.50 per minute for national coverage. Cell phone rental. Am I getting a reasonable price? Please do not research, just blab away with your educated impressions. >> Which company is this? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Trying to make sense of the latest Big O From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 19:04:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA814a6q029877 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:04:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 816AB1E6028B; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:59:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F9571E60256 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:59:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A392E1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:52:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14207356 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:52:44 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA80qht15328 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:52:43 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 12D532B908; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:52:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35CE62B901 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:52:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:52:41 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: $25 per week In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > > Is this a joke? I pay $42 a month for 700 minutes - and get free roaming > most places/most times. Why rent instead of buy? Am I missing something? > Sorry. I didn't fill in context. I need a cell phone for one week while I move my mother into Assisted Living, in Miami. One week only. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 19:06:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA81636q029911 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:06:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 222C21E60292; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:01:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E81D81E6028B for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:01:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A392FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:54:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14207581 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:54:10 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA80sAt15585 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:54:10 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id CBD632B8EE; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:54:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C29812B8EC for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:54:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:54:09 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: $25 per week In-Reply-To: <70.3476db25.2cdd97e6@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Evelyn Duncan wrote: > > Which company is this? http://www.triptel.com/ Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 19:09:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA819f6q029941 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:09:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 23BF81E6028B; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:04:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E81D21E60256 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:04:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A39348@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:57:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14208083 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:57:48 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA80vmt16085 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:57:48 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA80vlSf029038 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:57:47 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:58:18 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <152779066.20031107185818@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <3FAC3612.6318C567@maynor.net> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77707@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <3FAC3612.6318C567@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 07, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > But that isn't the answer to my question. Is the $3-$6 million talking > about the total amount one would spend over a long number of years of > retirement, regardless of the sources (i.e., from > pension/ss/investments/whatever), or is it talking about how much you > should have accumulated before you retire? The former. Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 19:12:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA81CT6q029970 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:12:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4CB561E60292; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:07:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C5921E6000A for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:07:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D7808@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:00:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14208250 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:00:36 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA810at16332 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:00:36 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA810a8b024940 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:00:36 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA810afC031774 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:00:36 -0500 Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 20:00:33 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: autumn and all that... Message-ID: <89649203.1068235233@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031107100551.029b0d58@pop.gwi.net> References: <6.0.0.22.0.20031107105235.02784340@localhost> <5.2.1.1.0.20031107100551.029b0d58@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --On Friday, November 07, 2003 10:09 AM -0500 "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > In northern Wisconsin, if we got really cold, still weather before much > snow fell, the lakes would be "black ice" which was clear. We had this one year while I was growing up. The little pond we skated on was clear to the bottom. All the sticks and leaves could be seen. At first I experienced a fear of falling, my brain didn't believe it was solid. That was the best ice I've ever skated on! Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 19:16:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA81G76q030009 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:16:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C393E1E60297; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:11:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 946831E60296 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:11:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A39350@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:04:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14208381 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:04:15 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA814Ft16597 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:04:15 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108010409.MYHL1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:04:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC410A.DBCEF862@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 19:04:10 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77708@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > They must think no one else is good enough, either. It's been well > established the Founding Fathers did not intend politicians to hold that job > as a full-time, permanent career. The intent was for someone to become You've once again turned this into a different question -- the one of term limits. I don't mind the topic morphs, btw. I think they're fun and interesting. But I just wanted to point out that what you've written in this reply isn't really a reply to what I said re fed vs state. > As far as whether someone is good enough base upon the level, it's like > declaring a college professor is inherently better than a grade school > teacher because they've moved to a higher level. I find that analogy quite bogus. Being a college professor is different from being a grade-school teacher, but I don't see that as being at all like the difference between being a state senator or being a U.S. senator. As one who has been a college professor for years, I will say something I've said many times to many people: I would be terrified to be an elementary-school teacher, especially first grade -- for various reasons that I won't go into here since they're irrelevant to the discussion because that analogy is irrelevant to the discussion. > In terms of accountability and incompetency, which do think is easier: > removing an undesired congress critter or someone at the state level? At > the state level, you only have to have a region of the state to oust one > person whereas someone at the Senate level would require the entire state to > drag them out - much more difficult. I'm not at all convinced that's true. I think there are many voters who are much more aware of what's happening with their congress critters than they are with their legislators -- possibly even most voters. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 19:17:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA81Hj6q030021 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:17:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1EDF01E60296; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:13:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E39371E60293 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:12:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A39360@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:05:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14208400 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:05:52 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA815qt16708 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:05:52 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108010547.MYRQ1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:05:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC416B.89E0B397@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 19:05:47 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77709@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > Lil's got some self-confidence issues to overcome as well - notice how she > was totally surprised when she was voted back in. I saw that as rather > difficult to understand - what they saw in her she didn't see in herself. > If she can't believe it how can she convince the others to keep her in the > game? What do you think they saw in her? She's and a hard worker. Is that it? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 19:19:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA81JT6q030026 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:19:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B37091E60293; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:14:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8062C1E60292 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:14:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A39354@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:07:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14208434 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:07:37 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA817at16883 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:07:37 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108010731.MZCG1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:07:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC41D3.4E8DD049@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 19:07:31 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7770B@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > > >From: Marty Rosen [mailto:meeberphobia@HOTMAIL.COM] > >It is strange. Assuming even a 4% rate of return, a couple > >with 3 million > >bucks in capital would be faring much better than the average > >working couple > >in the U.S. > > And taxes would enter into it again. I've read the top 3% of the people (by > income) pay 50% of the taxes. I don't get the connection here -- the connection to the point about needing $3 million+ to retire. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 19:23:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA81NB6q030045 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:23:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6B02E1E60292; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:18:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 399F01E6028B for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:18:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A39378@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:11:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14208536 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:11:18 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA81BIt17127 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:11:18 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HO0DOW03.2SH for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:05:20 -0700 From: "John Williams" To: English Language Discussion Group Message-ID: <32bf4732bbb7.32bbb732bf47@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 18:05:20 -0700 X-Mailer: Netscape Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en Subject: Re: $25 per week X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Ann Borkin > plus $1.50 per minute for national coverage. Cell phone rental. > > Am I getting a reasonable price? Please do not research, just > blab away > with your educated impressions. You're getting hosed. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 19:23:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA81Nh6q030050 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:23:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 928731E60297; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:18:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EF4A1E60296 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:18:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3935F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:11:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14208553 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:11:51 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA81Bot17156 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:11:50 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:11:44 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7770C@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: middle-classed Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:11:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] >Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 7:17 PM >Phil Paxton wrote: > >> >was thinking that meant that you would need to have $3-$6 million in >> >savings/investments before retiring if you hoped to live as you were >> >used to living. And that I do not believe is true for most > >> >people. >> >> You wouldn't likely have that much in savings. Anyone >saving earnestly (as > >But that isn't the answer to my question. Is the $3-$6 million talking >about the total amount one would spend over a long number of years of >retirement, regardless of the sources (i.e., from >pension/ss/investments/whatever), or is it talking about how much you >should have accumulated before you retire? I don't know. I just file away information. I had a boss who used to call me "Number 5" (movie reference). I let him be cute until I caught him using my ideas with his boss without giving due credit. I can dig stuff up if I really have to. Occasionally, someone will call me out on it and I'll dredge it up. The things I don't do well (or like to do) are the things I hire out. I can't be in the sun or heat so I have a landscaper. I hate doing financial stuff so I've got a wife who likes to, an accountant, and a financial attorney. I hate doing "house" stuff so I farm it out to a repairman or a handyman; then it's done right instead of rigged the way I do it - my way is only stopgap because that's what I'm good at (mechanically speaking). Right now, it's work (which boiled down is Internet-enabled home entertainment components), which is the best job I've had in a long, long time; researching the creative projects (most not computer-related) I've got on my machine at home, and continuing to develop new ideas after I've unloaded the other ideas. I like to keep the open list at about two dozen - it keeps me busy & out of trouble once I've read my dailies. I occasionally have a little bit of a time finding one of those, but I know which places stock which titles (which leads up to...) Apparently people don't read that much any more. The place where I'm a regular in the morning says people buy one paper, no more than two. I know everyone has their own demons & compulsions, but I'd go nuts living with just one or two newspapers. With that in mind, I don't understand how some of the papers sell out so easily. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 19:31:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA81V56q030101 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:31:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 097B71E6000A; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:26:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE9711E60261 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:26:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3938C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:19:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14208739 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:19:12 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA81JBt17674 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:19:12 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HO0E2203.8Q3 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:13:14 -0700 From: "John Williams" To: English Language Discussion Group Message-ID: <32f21932f12a.32f12a32f219@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 18:13:14 -0700 X-Mailer: Netscape Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en Subject: Re: Trent Lott X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: Natalie Maynor > No, it's not immaterial to your point about lies. The fact that that > story suddenly emerged is news. What they reported was the news > of its > emergence, iirc. It's not a lie to say that the story has come along. Some people would be confused about that point. My mother for one, God rest her soul. > My point was about the reporting of the story, not about Theo's > insistence that if PBS or ABC or whoever tells *about* the story, it > means the story is true. And is the obverse true as well? If the story is *not* reported, is "spiked", then it either is false or never occurred? JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 19:32:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA81W36q030106 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:32:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 89E451E60292; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:27:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 590EC1E6000A for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:27:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A39373@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:20:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14208761 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:20:11 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA81KAt17737 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:20:10 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:20:05 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7770D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Survivor Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:20:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] >Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 7:19 PM >bonniev wrote: >> So now each Drake tribe member has a better chance at going to >> the final two as they sit back and vote off the former >Morgans, one by >> one. They can get around to Jon later. > >Have any of the earlier Survivors stuck that closely to original tribe >lines? Iow, do you really think it's going to come down to tribe >loyalty? The most successful alliance was in series #1. Others have been tried but none have been as close. Two or three people talk, then one or two of them go talk to a couple of others and a close-knit alliance suddenly becomes a loose group of six and that's not going to happen. Some of the alliances start along tribe lines but after awhile I think it comes down to personalities, not tribes. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 19:33:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA81X36q030109 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:33:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 957201E60293; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:28:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65E3A1E60292 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:28:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A39384@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:21:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14208789 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:21:06 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA81L6t17800 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:21:06 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108012101.SJDB1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:21:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC44FD.57CB14DD@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 19:21:01 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <3FAB1836.F4BE5E8E@maynor.net> <3FAC05F9.EA3B8D12@maynor.net> <3FAC122B.C8B4F013@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >I'm not sure that I understand your question. I've never thought about > >middle-classed . Or are you talking about the scales > >used by sociologists in putting people into classes -- the > >education/income/etc scales? > > I simply want to know what you mean "by all the usual scales (economic, > social, etc.)." Sorry. I assumed that you had at some point taken Intro to Sociology or perhaps Sociolinguistics. (I realize that recent trends in sociolinguistics are away from the class groupings and more into networks, etc., but even the current books make some brief mention of the class stuff.) I don't have any Intro to Socio books handy, though I'm sure the basic stuff about delineating classes is easily findable on the web. I do have one or two Socioling books on my shelves. I guess I could go drag something like Wardhaugh down and quote from it if you want stuff on the subject. Let me know if you really want me to do that. Otherwise, I'll write off the top of my head: It is generally agreed, I think, that delineating social classes is messy and fuzzy (in the U.S.), but pretty much all of the various scales used include certain elements like income, education level, profession. Many also include education level of father (not usually mother). And some include things like location/type of residence and kinds of hobbies. E.g., being a golfer moves you up, while being a bowler moves you down. Some, especially in the South, also include religious preference. Were you a cradle Episcopalian? That would ratchet you up a few notches in the South. > Or - what are the facts about me that make me > middle-classed in your estimation - Your profession, your education, your habits. It may be, of course, that you have been putting us on in talk about the importance of your planning for retirement etc. and that you actually have several billion dollars in the trust funds left to you by your Brahmin grandparents in Boston and that your parents were mightily chagrined that you chose to go into something lowly like college teaching. Iow, I may be wrong. > when by your standards I do not have > enough money/investments to be middle-class. How much would I have to have > to be middle-classed? This is amazing. Are you sure you really did graduate from law school? How many times did it take you to pass the bar exam? Please show me where I have said that you do not have enough money/investments to be middle-class [sic -- sort of like being bless]. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 19:37:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA81b36q030132 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:37:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5FB571E60261; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:32:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DE301E6000A for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:32:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A39380@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:25:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14208891 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:25:10 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA81PAt18047 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:25:10 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA81P7e6022088 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:25:08 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000401c3a597$21d8b1c0$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: $25 per week Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:25:01 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Borkin" To: Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 6:36 PM Subject: $25 per week > plus $1.50 per minute for national coverage. Cell phone rental. > > Am I getting a reasonable price? Please do not research, just blab away > with your educated impressions. > > Ann > We pay $87 per month, that's for both our phones for plenty of daytime minutes (can't remember how much) plus 3500 night and weekend minutes, anywhere in the U.S. Alltel. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 19:40:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA81eO6q030149 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:40:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6E67B1E6028B; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:35:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 391B61E60261 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:35:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A39392@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:28:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14208948 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:28:31 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA81SVt18225 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:28:31 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:28:25 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7770E@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: $25 per week Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:28:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Ann Borkin [mailto:aborkin@RAHUL.NET] >Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 7:36 PM >plus $1.50 per minute for national coverage. Cell phone rental. > >Am I getting a reasonable price? Please do not research, just >blab away >with your educated impressions. Egads. BOHICA (Bend Over, Here It Comes Again) We have a land line at home which has voicemail on it along with callerid and that's about it - no long distance, etc. It's not much more than a way for someone to get us if we pick up the phone or to leave voicemail we can retrieve other. I don't know what we're paying (I didn't set it up) but we don't pay $1.50 per minute for anything. I can call anywhere nationally for squat as long as it's within the limit of minutes per month - and that has no bearing on local, regional, or national. Minutes are minutes. You didn't say how you're coming across the rental (who it's from) but it would seem rental would be a case of someone willing to pay extra just for a short-term convenience. Spend a little time to research the major carriers (Cingular (#2 nationally), Sprint, etc.) and find out how much a reasonable setup would cost you compared to a rental. Here's a question to compare to your question: Q: I can get a rental car for $30/day and no mileage limits. Is this a good price? A: What are you going to do with it? If it's a midsize car and you're going to rent it for a month, that's $900/month which is pricey even for a Lexus. $30/day might be a short-term convenience while your car is in the shop, but... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 19:40:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA81eX6q030152 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:40:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AC43F1E60292; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:35:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DB011E60261 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:35:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D784E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:28:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14208959 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:28:41 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA81Set18245 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:28:40 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108012835.SLOM1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:28:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC46C3.E5D829D9@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 19:28:35 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: <410-22003115721343592@earthlink.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031107182908.01f44c30@pop.gwi.net> <001901c3a58f$0a5736a0$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > > >It's true, as somebody pointed out earlier, that > > >they don't see him as a threat, but the obnoxious people usually go > > >early anyway. The pattern seems to be to get rid of the weak and > wimpy > > >and the obnoxious first, then start weeding out the most serious > > >threats. -- Natalie > > Honest to God, when I read this I didn't > know if you were talking about Survivor > or about the Democrat debates, etc. ROFL! I can see that -- in any political context, of course. Iow, the same would be true with Republicans if we didn't have a Republican incumbent. The only problem with it, though, is that I'm not sure how Graham fits with what's written above. Well, ok. I guess weak and wimpy. But he's the only one gone so far, and I don't really see any of them as obnoxious. Threats to each other certainly, though they're not voting each other out, so it doesn't totally work -- but the attacks are geared that way. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 19:43:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA81hT6q030166 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:43:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CADDF1E6028B; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:38:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 986551E60261 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:38:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3939C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:31:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14209027 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:31:37 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA81Vbt18488 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:31:37 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108013131.SMOV1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:31:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC4774.CAA84ABD@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 19:31:32 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: $25 per week References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin wrote: > > plus $1.50 per minute for national coverage. Cell phone rental. > > Am I getting a reasonable price? Please do not research, just blab away > with your educated impressions. I assume you mean per month, not per week. Although I'm not on top of the current cell-phone offerings, I would say that it is not a good deal. For $25-$30 a month you should have at least 300-500 minutes of both local and national calling included. (I'm not sure what you mean by cell-phone rental, though. Rental? What exactly does that mean?) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 19:44:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA81ie6q030177 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:44:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B71121E60296; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:39:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 807CE1E60293 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:39:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3939D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:32:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14209043 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:32:48 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA81Wlt18558 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:32:47 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HO0EOP03.HVC for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:26:49 -0700 From: "John Williams" To: English Language Discussion Group Message-ID: <32b9ab32bffe.32bffe32b9ab@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 18:26:49 -0700 X-Mailer: Netscape Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en Subject: Re: Trent Lott X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Marty Rosen Date: Friday, November 7, 2003 4:54 pm Subject: Re: Trent Lott > Gee, the two of you have something in common then. Okay, I'll bite: What is it that I believe that is untrue? JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 19:47:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA81l36q030235 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:47:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DD5A71E60299; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:42:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A59311E6028B for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:42:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A39392@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:35:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14209085 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:35:07 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA81Z6t18704 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:35:07 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108013501.SNQW1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:35:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC4845.3E8A350@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 19:35:01 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: $25 per week References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin wrote: > Sorry. I didn't fill in context. I need a cell phone for one week while > I move my mother into Assisted Living, in Miami. One week only. If you don't think you'll want one again, then I would say that price sounds fine. If you think you might want one off and on on other occasions, then I'd say go with Tracfone. It would be more expensive, though, if you never used it other than that week since you'd have to buy the phone. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 19:47:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA81l36q030234 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:47:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 109C91E60298; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:41:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D529A1E60296 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:41:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D7872@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:34:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14209075 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:34:51 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA81Ypt18660 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:34:51 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:34:46 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7770F@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Survivor Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:34:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] >Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 8:06 PM >Phil Paxton wrote: > >> Lil's got some self-confidence issues to overcome as well - >notice how she >> was totally surprised when she was voted back in. I saw >that as rather >> difficult to understand - what they saw in her she didn't >see in herself. >> If she can't believe it how can she convince the others to >keep her in the >> game? > >What do you think they saw in her? She's and a hard worker. >Is that it? If you want to attribute those qualities to her... S CK R Pat, I'd like to buy a 'U'. Being earnest and hard working are not qualities which seem to bestow a long life on Survivor. I don't think one can say Tina got away with it as she was a team player but slipped beneath the radar. Subtlety is how she won. Lil is not subtle. Anyone looking at her thinks "Boy Scout" and I don't think that's going to do it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 19:49:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA81nJ6q030262 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:49:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CECD81E60292; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:44:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B6AD1E6028B for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:44:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D787D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:37:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14209113 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:37:26 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA81bPt18819 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:37:26 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108013720.SOPH1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:37:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC48D0.DFEF716@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 19:37:21 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77707@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <3FAC3612.6318C567@maynor.net> <152779066.20031107185818@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > On Friday, November 07, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > But that isn't the answer to my question. Is the $3-$6 million talking > > about the total amount one would spend over a long number of years of > > retirement, regardless of the sources (i.e., from > > pension/ss/investments/whatever), or is it talking about how much you > > should have accumulated before you retire? > > The former. Thanks. As I said earlier, I've never tried figuring out how many total dollars might be spent over a long period of time. But I'm feeling to know that I didn't do something rash by retiring before I had even the rock-bottom $3 million in savings/investments. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 20:00:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA820c6q030291 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:00:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3A6981E6028B; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:55:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0353B1E6025F for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:55:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A393C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:48:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14209444 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:48:44 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA81mht19647 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:48:44 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA81mgoe006868 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:48:43 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FAC4B1F.5070406@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 19:47:11 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7770C@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > stock which titles (which leads up to...) Apparently people don't read that > much any more. The place where I'm a regular in the morning says people buy > one paper, no more than two. I know everyone has their own demons & > compulsions, but I'd go nuts living with just one or two newspapers. With > that in mind, I don't understand how some of the papers sell out so easily. Most people don't have time. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 20:01:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA82106q030303 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:01:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CF80B1E6025F; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:56:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EAA31E6000A for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:56:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A393B8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:49:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14209483 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:49:07 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA81n3t19698 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:49:07 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:48:57 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77710@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: middle-classed Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:48:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] >Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 8:08 PM >Phil Paxton wrote: >> >> >From: Marty Rosen [mailto:meeberphobia@HOTMAIL.COM] >> >It is strange. Assuming even a 4% rate of return, a couple >> >with 3 million >> >bucks in capital would be faring much better than the average >> >working couple >> >in the U.S. >> >> And taxes would enter into it again. I've read the top 3% >of the people (by >> income) pay 50% of the taxes. > >I don't get the connection here -- the connection to the point about >needing $3 million+ to retire. I understand. Okay, suppose you are used to making $40k/year, retire at 60, and expect to live until 78. That's 18 years * $40k = $720k. That also means you have to allow for the "72 doubling" factor. i.e., every time the percentage * the number of payments = 72, the cost|price doubles. So at a 4% increase/year (constant, average, whatever), that 18 years means at least the cost would double by the end of that time. So by the time you're 78, the cost of everything is at least double from when it was started, meaning you're now requiring $80k just to live as the $40k at 60. Suppose you're used to $60k/year, retire at 60, expect to live until 78. Then it's $60k * 18 = $1.08M and the $60k requirement will be guaranteed to double before 78. You can juggle the numbers, but you have to remember that we're playing with Monopoly money here. If it's in the real-world, you won't want to err on the side of caution (as in saving too little - you'll want to have saved too much). If you get to 75 and have run out of money, then what? ("Do you want fries with that?" <- and that's not going to cover the $40k or $60k when they're paying $8.25/hour->$17k/year) Mind you, those who own a house have likely paid off the mortgage and don't have that burden any more. But there are also the burdens of an automobile (and needing at least one as it's doubtful any cars purchased these days will last for eighteen years), medical care (including Rx), and those costs aren't going to go down, either. Those will likely more than double during that time. (does this help?) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 20:04:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA82466q030327 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:04:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 745071E6028B; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:59:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FA5D1E6025F for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:59:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A393C9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:52:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14209527 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:52:13 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA81qDt19865 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:52:13 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:52:08 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77711@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: $25 per week Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:52:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] >Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 8:35 PM >Ann Borkin wrote: > >> Sorry. I didn't fill in context. I need a cell phone for >one week while >> I move my mother into Assisted Living, in Miami. One week only. > >If you don't think you'll want one again, then I would say that price >sounds fine. If you think you might want one off and on on other >occasions, then I'd say go with Tracfone. It would be more expensive, >though, if you never used it other than that week since you'd have to >buy the phone. You can also buy cell phone minutes on cards (at practically any type of general retail store) just as you can with regular phones - caveat emptor. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 20:04:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA824t6q030333 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:04:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8ADCC1E60296; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:00:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C7D81E6028B for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:00:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A393BD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:53:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14209558 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:53:03 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA81r2t19952 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:53:02 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:52:57 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77712@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: middle-classed Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:52:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Rita Chapman [mailto:rouvalis@SWBELL.NET] >Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 8:47 PM >Phil Paxton wrote: > > >> stock which titles (which leads up to...) Apparently people >don't read that >> much any more. The place where I'm a regular in the morning >says people buy >> one paper, no more than two. I know everyone has their own demons & >> compulsions, but I'd go nuts living with just one or two >newspapers. With >> that in mind, I don't understand how some of the papers sell >out so easily. > > Most people don't have time. It would interfer with the one-eyed babysitter? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 20:05:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA825Y6q030338 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:05:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5EF311E6028B; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:00:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FDA11E6025F for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:00:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A393CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:53:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14209578 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:53:41 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA81rft20011 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:53:41 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108015336.DHMS1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:53:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC4CA0.22A543AE@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 19:53:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7770C@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > Apparently people don't read that > much any more. The place where I'm a regular in the morning says people buy > one paper, no more than two. I know everyone has their own demons & > compulsions, but I'd go nuts living with just one or two newspapers. With > that in mind, I don't understand how some of the papers sell out so easily. Does the place you're a regular in the morning know about the web? I used to subscribe regularly to two newspapers, sometimes to three. I now subscribe to the Starkville Daily News only -- because I like local news and ads and because their website sux. It would not occur to me to subscribe anymore to the Clarion-Ledger since I find reading it online more convenient. I read it every day on my computer screen. I also on a typical morning read (not in entirety but at least parts of) the NYT, the Washington Post, the International Herald Tribune, and sometimes the Boston Globe, the LA Times, the Daily Yomiuri, the Guardian, the Independent, Le Monde, the Village Voice, Mother Jones, etc. etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 20:05:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA825p6q030348 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:05:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 545C01E60292; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:01:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25F991E6025F for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:01:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A393BF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:53:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14209586 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:53:58 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA81rwt20029 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:53:58 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HO0FO002.SUD for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:48:00 -0700 From: "John Williams" To: English Language Discussion Group Message-ID: <331903331866.331866331903@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 18:48:00 -0700 X-Mailer: Netscape Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en Subject: Re: Survivor X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Natalie Maynor > > > ROFL! I can see that -- in any political context, of course. > Iow, the > same would be true with Republicans if we didn't have a Republican > incumbent. The only problem with it, though, is that I'm not sure how > Graham fits with what's written above. Well, ok. I guess weak and > wimpy. But he's the only one gone so far, and I don't really see > any of > them as obnoxious. Threats to each other certainly, though > they're not > voting each other out, so it doesn't totally work -- but the > attacks are > geared that way. What's odd is that the conservative blogs have had lists of suggestions for Democratic candidates that they have obviously ignored. Dean is toast.* I could go for John "Hi - Did I mention that I was in Vietnam?" Kerry or Joe Lieberman if either of then had the sand to say "I'm not sharing a stage with these two poltroons, Braun and Sharpton." Never will happen, and neither will my support. (All of the proceeding is subject to future developments.) JMW *"All you poor rednecks can just go to hell - I don't need your votes! I'M from VERMONT!" From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 20:07:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA827S6q030375 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:07:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7222F1E60296; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:02:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43A641E60292 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:02:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A393C1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:55:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14209610 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:55:35 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA81tZt20121 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:55:35 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108015530.DIDH1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:55:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC4D12.770A7BD6@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 19:55:30 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Trent Lott References: <32f21932f12a.32f12a32f219@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > > My point was about the reporting of the story, not about Theo's > > insistence that if PBS or ABC or whoever tells *about* the story, it > > means the story is true. > > And is the obverse true as well? If the story is *not* reported, > is "spiked", then it either is false or never occurred? In Theo's mind? I don't know. I find her mind rather mysterious. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 20:08:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA828e6q030379 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:08:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9FD6B1E6028B; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:03:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 715271E6025F for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:03:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A393C4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:56:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14209653 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:56:06 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA81u6t20231 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:56:06 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20031108015559014005lnu0e>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 01:55:59 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031107174626.03e42008@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 17:54:55 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: $25 per week In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin writes, >Am I getting a reasonable price? Please do not research, just blab away >with your educated impressions. Darned expensive, but okay for a week or two and not more than 10 or 20 minutes airtime. I know you said not to, but I had to peek at a few web pages. Tracfone has a special deal right now with 60 minutes airtime and a free reconditioned phone for $24.99: http://www.tracfone-orders.com/direct/tr/itemdetl.jsp?prod=1485&tech=COGSM1 Even though its "pay-as-you-go," your account would expire after 60 days unless you kept using the minutes and buying more at a maximum interval of 60 days. But so what. I'd buy the cheap Tracfone deal now for $24.99, and then give the phone to someone else or donate it after you're done with it. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 20:13:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA82DG6q030431 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:13:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D99D41E60292; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:08:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6A121E6028B for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:08:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A393D0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:01:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14209788 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:01:23 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA821Mt20680 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:01:22 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108020117.DJYZ1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:01:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC4E6D.FCF8B4DB@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 20:01:17 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: $25 per week References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7770E@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > Here's a question to compare to your question: > > Q: I can get a rental car for $30/day and no mileage limits. Is this a > good price? > > A: What are you going to do with it? If it's a midsize car and you're > going to rent it for a month, that's $900/month which is pricey even for a > Lexus. $30/day might be a short-term convenience while your car is in the > shop, but... Your question isn't really comparable to AnnBork's, now that we know what her particular circumstance is, but it somehow reminded me of something I mulled over in my head this morning and finally decided to do -- to assume that I will still be alive at eighty and want to be a member of ARF (Association of Retired Faculty). I was on the verge of writing a check for $15 for annual ARF dues when I looked at the lifetime membership cost of $300. And that's what I decided to go with. The $15 a year might go up over the next twenty years. So if I live until eighty, I'll be ahead by having paid $300 today. Mainly I did it because I hate having to remember to pay odds and ends of that kind. I wanted to be done with it for life. I am happy to be a lifetime member of ARF. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 20:15:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA82FM6q030456 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:15:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 27FEC1E60299; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:10:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC9B41E60298 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:10:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D789B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:03:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14209840 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:03:29 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA823Tt20827 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:03:29 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA823R2f019048 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:03:28 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA823QJC019022; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:03:27 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031107180505.00a29a20@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 18:05:23 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Survivor In-Reply-To: <001901c3a58f$0a5736a0$e1cadece@0018079268> References: <410-22003115721343592@earthlink.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031107182908.01f44c30@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:27 PM 11/7/2003 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: > > >It's true, as somebody pointed out earlier, that > > >they don't see him as a threat, but the obnoxious people usually go > > >early anyway. The pattern seems to be to get rid of the weak and >wimpy > > >and the obnoxious first, then start weeding out the most serious > > >threats. -- Natalie > >Honest to God, when I read this I didn't >know if you were talking about Survivor >or about the Democrat debates, etc. > > - D. M. LOLOL From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 20:16:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA82Gn6q030459 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:16:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DFC761E6029D; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:12:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A34F11E6029C for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:12:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A393E5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:04:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14209871 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:04:55 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA824tt20937 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:04:55 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA824deO011693 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:04:39 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA824ba2011675; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:04:38 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031107180554.00ad57e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 18:06:34 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: $25 per week In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:36 PM 11/7/2003 -0800, Ann Borkin wrote: >plus $1.50 per minute for national coverage. Cell phone rental. > >Am I getting a reasonable price? Please do not research, just blab away >with your educated impressions. > >Ann A week?? You're getting ripped. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 20:17:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA82HK6q030474 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:17:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7401D1E6029C; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:12:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3577A1E6029B for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:12:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D789F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:05:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14209890 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:05:27 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA825Rt20994 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:05:27 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA825Pk0000174 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:05:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FAC4F07.3000505@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 20:03:51 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77712@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: >>From: Rita Chapman [mailto:rouvalis@SWBELL.NET] >>Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 8:47 PM >> > >>Phil Paxton wrote: >> >> >> >>>stock which titles (which leads up to...) Apparently people >>> >>don't read that >> >>>much any more. The place where I'm a regular in the morning >>> >>says people buy >> >>>one paper, no more than two. I know everyone has their own demons & >>>compulsions, but I'd go nuts living with just one or two >>> >>newspapers. With >> >>>that in mind, I don't understand how some of the papers sell >>> >>out so easily. >> >> Most people don't have time. >> > > It would interfer with the one-eyed babysitter? Yeah, McGyver, I have plenty of time for TV between teaching fulltime, going to graduate school, and taking care of a family. BTW, the 1992 film version of Of Mice and Men is very well done. I caught several of my boys wiping their eyes when Carlson shoots Candy's dog. Hmm. I think I prefer reading Steinbeck and Balzac to the "new-told lies" of the "paper fantasies." -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 20:22:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA82Mh6q030511 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:22:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E48081E6028B; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:17:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B02911E6025F for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:17:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D78C4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:10:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14209779 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:10:50 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA820ot20619 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:00:50 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA82083W025997 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:00:10 -0500 Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:00:47 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <3FAC44FD.57CB14DD@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FAB1836.F4BE5E8E@maynor.net> <3FAC05F9.EA3B8D12@maynor.net> <3FAC122B.C8B4F013@maynor.net> <3FAC44FD.57CB14DD@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thank you for your long non-responsive reply, Natalie - I guess. I was not interested in knowing what you think somebody else means when they say middle-class - I WAS interested in what YOU mean. But I'm now bored - so please don't bother to respond. I do not save all your messages, brilliant though some of them may be - so I cannot quote verbatim the statement you made about my having two mortgages means that I am not after all middle-class - or words to that effect. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 20:38:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA82cG6q030631 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:38:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8AD891E60262; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:33:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BB3B1E6025F for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:33:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A39408@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:26:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14210388 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:26:22 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA82QMt22578 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:26:22 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108022616.QOHA20018.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:26:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC5449.D3CB2E60@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 20:26:17 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: <331903331866.331866331903@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > What's odd is that the conservative blogs have had lists of > suggestions for Democratic candidates that they have obviously > ignored. Dean is toast.* I could go for John "Hi - Did I mention that > I was in Vietnam?" Kerry or Joe Lieberman if either of then had the > sand to say "I'm not sharing a stage with these two poltroons, Braun > and Sharpton." Never will happen, and neither will my support. > (All of the proceeding is subject to future developments.) > > JMW > > *"All you poor rednecks can just go to hell - I don't need your votes! > I'M from VERMONT!" Why do you think they've ignored them? In the first example you give above, many Democrats have said the same thing re Dean and elitism. So it's hard to tell whether he's ignoring the conservative blogs or ignoring the Democrats who have said the same thing. (I still love that Alternet column on that subject -- the bless-your-heart one.) Re the John and Joe examples, I do hope that they as well as many voters have noted those blog comments. They are telling cases for what is growing more and more obvious to many people: Republican = Racist. I was talking just today to my (at risk of sounding like Bethany and her ) financial advisor, who has some strong familial Republican connections and has perhaps herself voted Republican. She was saying that it's not necessarily true that all Republicans are racists though it's pretty clearly true that all racists are Republican. (I would of course have tempered that with "almost all" -- I think "all" is almost always too extreme. And I do agree that it's important to recognize that all X's are Y's is not the same as everybody who is Y is X.) Anyway, thanks for that example -- the one about Braun and Sharpton. It's one more confirmation of my thoughts re conservatives (in general). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 20:38:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA82ca6q030634 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:38:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A474D1E60297; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:33:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 759C81E60262 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:33:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A39417@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:26:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14210395 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:26:41 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA82Qet22595 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:26:41 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:26:29 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77713@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: middle-classed Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:26:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] >Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 8:54 PM >Phil Paxton wrote: > >> Apparently people don't read that >> much any more. The place where I'm a regular in the morning >says people buy >> one paper, no more than two. I know everyone has their own demons & >> compulsions, but I'd go nuts living with just one or two >newspapers. With >> that in mind, I don't understand how some of the papers sell >out so easily. > >Does the place you're a regular in the morning know about the web? I >used to subscribe regularly to two newspapers, sometimes to three. I >now subscribe to the Starkville Daily News only -- because I like local >news and ads and because their website sux. It would not >occur to me to >subscribe anymore to the Clarion-Ledger since I find reading it online >more convenient. I read it every day on my computer screen. I also on >a typical morning read (not in entirety but at least parts of) the NYT, >the Washington Post, the International Herald Tribune, and >sometimes the >Boston Globe, the LA Times, the Daily Yomiuri, the Guardian, the >Independent, Le Monde, the Village Voice, Mother Jones, etc. etc. They're aware of it - I stop by one of the grocery stores which is on the way to work and carries all six. I've been asked why I don't subscribe, but it's for the same reason I don't subscribe to most of the magazines I read: I'd have to ride herd on them and manage the subscription for them. If I miss an edition|issue, I may not realize it until it's too late to buy it off the shelf as well as to call the subscription department who doesn't care about getting the missing issue to me, just extending my subscription. I'm not complaining about receiving issues|editions. I'm complaining about not getting the item I missed. This seems to be a bit against the way they think in their day-to-day jobs. When I'm approached at festivals and gatherings downtown, people hawk subscriptions and I point out the underlying disagreement I have with subscriptions and their sole counterargument is "but it's cheaper". And my response is "I don't care. My way ensures I get all of my material and I don't have to teach someone why my way is important to me." "But it's cheaper". (I'll show them cheaper. When there are offers for " free issues" and I enroll, I can't wait for the magic envelope: [Affix Stamp Here] A stamp is not free. Eventually, someone will call and I'll point out the discrepancy. I think the longest one of those calls has lasted is about two minutes. One of the few magazines I do subscribe to is Scientific American; but only because it's special. It was the first magazine my parents got a subscription for me when I was ten at Christmas. The fact I receive it two weeks before it's on the newsstand doesn't hurt. Despite doing the techie bit, I don't really like reading stories online - generally, only material which isn't available to me. I *like* being able to carry my reading with me, doing the crosswords (that seems to be another dying activity). If reading were available only via electronic means, I'd probably die. It's kind of like shopping at CompUSA. I can buy things cheaper online but if they have it there, I get it there. I like to actually see what I'm buying as so many things are misrepresented even in small details which I can spot with the item in hand. If I have to return it, it's about a ten minute drive from home. Most of the time, returning things online isn't all that bad, but when there's a hint of doubt, I like eye::eye to keep things easy. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 20:40:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA82el6q030660 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:40:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5C0501E60262; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:36:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E8901E6025F for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:36:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3941B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:28:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14210442 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:28:54 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA82Sst22759 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:28:54 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:28:49 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77714@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Survivor Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:28:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: John Williams [mailto:williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU] >Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 8:48 PM > What's odd is that the conservative blogs have had lists of >suggestions for Democratic candidates that they have obviously >ignored. Dean is toast.* I could go for John "Hi - Did I mention that >I was in Vietnam?" Kerry or Joe Lieberman if either of then had the >sand to say "I'm not sharing a stage with these two poltroons, Braun >and Sharpton." Never will happen, and neither will my support. > (All of the proceeding is subject to future developments.) > >JMW > >*"All you poor rednecks can just go to hell - I don't need your votes! >I'M from VERMONT!" You forgot to mention Dean is a physician. I'm surprised he doesn't try to find some way to leverage that. And I'm surprised people in town meetings don't try to pin him into a corner with that information. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 20:45:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA82jM6q030710 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:45:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 52ED71E60262; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:40:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 234E81E6000A for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:40:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3942B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:33:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14210582 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:33:29 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA82XPt23011 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:33:29 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:33:19 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77715@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: middle-classed Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:33:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Hmm. I think I prefer reading Steinbeck and Balzac to the >"new-told lies" of the "paper fantasies." I didn't say the *only* thing I read is limited to newspapers. I'm not fond of the classics but may return to them someday. As far as time, the last time I was on this list, I was working full time plus, taking Japanese & Chinese courses, doing my daily reading, etc. etc. Oh, and learned how to juggle seven balls (two hands, five in one hand) which meant several hours of practice every day. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 20:49:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA82n76q030743 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:49:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 208F01E60262; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:44:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6B931E6025F for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:44:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3943E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:37:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14210649 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:37:14 -0500 Received: from web20515.mail.yahoo.com (web20515.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.232.184]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA82bEt23227 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:37:14 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20515.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 18:37:13 PST Message-ID: <20031108023713.49643.qmail@web20515.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:37:13 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Survivor To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FAC2725.BB520E01@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > I thought den mothers were the "leaders" of cub > scouts. I didn't think > boy scout troops had den mothers. Weren't they cub > scout dens and boy > scout troops? My vague memory (of my brother's > childhood) was that cub > scouts met at times like weekday afternoons with > mothers (housewives) in > charge of them -- den mothers. Boy scouts, otoh, > met at night with men > as their leaders. In olden days in the old country, it was common for both cubs and scouts to have den mothers who did (or arranged to have done) all the womanly chores required by the troops. It was highly unusual for a woman to lead" a cub pack, and, in my experience, out of the realm of possibility for a woman to lead a scout troop. I realize times have changed, hence my question about the appearance of females as scout leaders. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 20:51:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA82pQ6q030761 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:51:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5E6CF1E60297; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:46:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C8EC1E6025F for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:46:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A39440@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:39:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14210681 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:39:33 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA82dXt23320 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:39:33 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA82dWoe024842 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:39:32 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FAC5702.9000608@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 20:37:54 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77715@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: >> Hmm. I think I prefer reading Steinbeck and Balzac to the >>"new-told lies" of the "paper fantasies." >> > > I didn't say the *only* thing I read is limited to newspapers. I'm not fond > of the classics but may return to them someday. As far as time, the last > time I was on this list, I was working full time plus, taking Japanese & > Chinese courses, doing my daily reading, etc. etc. Oh, and learned how to > juggle seven balls (two hands, five in one hand) which meant several hours > of practice every day. Sorry, Phil. Anastasia is more important. I may be nuts, but I know what I should be doing with my time. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 20:56:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA82uR6q030840 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:56:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3B77E1E6029A; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:51:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 036781E6000D for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:51:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3942B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:44:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14210736 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:44:34 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA82iYt23516 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:44:34 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108024428.LVYZ1852.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:44:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC588C.56CC5097@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 20:44:28 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77710@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > If you get to 75 and have run out of money, then what? I don't really get this. I can imagine having a lower income than is comfortable, but I can't imagine "running out of money." As you said in an earlier posting, most retired people live on the interest of their investments, leaving the principal intact. That is my intention. Actually, my intention is to live on my retirement income -- my pension -- plus social security when I start getting it and to leave invested money sitting there for a long time. When I need to enter a nursing home, I can tap that money. Or I might want to tap some of it earlier, like increase my monthly income by getting a regular check from investments -- not out of the principal, but from part of the interest/dividends/earnings. My has told me repeatedly that I'm too careful -- that I deprive myself too much -- that I should spend more money. But it's the way I grew up -- as a child of parents who experienced The Depression. (Somehow my RRB didn't pay attention. But I did. My mother, who was the money manager in our home, told me after I was an adult that she had no worry at all about me because I had obvious financial sense but that she worried about my brother because he didn't. His lack of sense didn't matter since he made mega-fortunes. My sense did matter since I have never had a high-paying job but have in fact managed to save a good bit through the years.) > Mind you, those who own a house have likely paid off the mortgage and don't > have that burden any more. But there are also the burdens of an automobile > (and needing at least one as it's doubtful any cars purchased these days > will last for eighteen years), medical care (including Rx), and those costs > aren't going to go down, either. Those will likely more than double during > that time. The medical care (including Rx) is a biggie. And makes me wish I were Canadian. I really, really, really don't understand why this country is the way it is on that subject -- why we consider ourselves a but are in the league of re medical care. > (does this help?) Not really, but thanks for participating. :-) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 20:56:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA82up6q030854 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:56:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1F0E11E60299; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:52:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E04351E6000D for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:52:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3942C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:44:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14210748 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:44:58 -0500 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA82iwt23538 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:44:58 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 18:44:57 PST Message-ID: <20031108024457.90966.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:44:57 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Survivor To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <331903331866.331866331903@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- John Williams to > Did I mention that > I was in Vietnam?" Kerry or Joe Lieberman if either > of then had the > sand to say "I'm not sharing a stage with these two > poltroons, Braun > and Sharpton." Never will happen, and neither will > my support. > (All of the proceeding is subject to future > developments.) > > JMW > > *"All you poor rednecks can just go to hell - I > don't need your votes! Do any Democrats, including Al Sharpton, seriously regard Al Sharpton as a viable candidate? And if so, why? > I'M from VERMONT!" __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 20:58:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA82wE6q030878 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:58:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C50AF1E60299; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:53:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96CAC1E6000D for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:53:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3942F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:46:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14210771 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:46:20 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA82k0t23610 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:46:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108024554.LWHW1852.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:45:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC58E3.91F0D225@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 20:45:55 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: $25 per week References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77711@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > >occasions, then I'd say go with Tracfone. It would be more expensive, > >though, if you never used it other than that week since you'd have to > >buy the phone. > > You can also buy cell phone minutes on cards (at practically any type of > general retail store) just as you can with regular phones - caveat emptor. That's how Tracfone works. You buy the cards -- or can buy online. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 20:58:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA82wE6q030881 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:58:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1701E1E6029B; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:53:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9EEB1E6000D for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:53:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D78EE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:46:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14210625 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:45:41 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA82Zet23125 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:35:40 -0500 Received: (qmail 51747 invoked by uid 1003); 8 Nov 2003 02:35:39 -0000 Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:35:39 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: out o town Message-ID: <20031108023539.GA50075@words-l.org> References: <200311071535.hA7FZl418160@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20031107190115.87819.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031107190115.87819.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Who the hell "skedaddles"? I have never seen anybody freaking skedaddle, for any reason. Such an activity doesn't exist. On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 11:01:15AM -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > Yes! > > Spent the evening at the Green Mill, listening to > > swing. > > Thank you Tushar! > > > > clo > > Now that's just plain selfish - selfish and miserly. > But I guess that's why T.S. skedaddled. He was spread > too thin. Too many women, not enough time. sigh From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 21:03:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA83336q030939 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:03:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A9EB71E6029A; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:58:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 770241E60299 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:58:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3944D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:51:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14210812 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:51:10 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA82p9t23818 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:51:09 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108025104.LXJH1852.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:51:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC5A18.505426E2@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 20:51:04 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: $25 per week References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031107174626.03e42008@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > I know you said not to, but I had to peek at a few web pages. Tracfone has > a special deal right now with 60 minutes airtime and a free reconditioned > phone for $24.99: > http://www.tracfone-orders.com/direct/tr/itemdetl.jsp?prod=1485&tech=COGSM1 > > Even though its "pay-as-you-go," your account would expire after 60 days > unless you kept using the minutes and buying more at a maximum interval of > 60 days. The only thing that expires after 60 days is the phone number. If you don't care about keeping the same phone number, there's no problem. You can let it expire and still get the rolled-over minutes if you reactivate (and activation/reactivation is free) within four months. If you wait more than four months, then you lose those unused minutes, but you can reactivate at no cost with the phone you've already bought and with a card that costs about $16. So it's a good deal all around. So far I have not let my phone number lapse -- I went on and spent another $16 a couple of weeks ago to keep my phone number alive, but it was kind of dumb. Nobody has that phone number. My only reason for having a cell phone is for a convenient way to leave a number with Furrbabies when I'm traveling and don't know exactly where I'm going to be. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 21:07:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA837u6q030991 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:07:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DAB501E6029A; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:03:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 155DF1E60299 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:03:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D7909@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:56:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14211044 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:56:01 -0500 Received: from web20511.mail.yahoo.com (web20511.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.150]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA82u0t24165 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:56:01 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20511.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 18:56:00 PST Message-ID: <20031108025600.8619.qmail@web20511.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:56:00 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Survivor To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77714@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Phil Paxton wrote: > You forgot to mention Dean is a physician. I'm > surprised he doesn't try to > find some way to leverage that. And I'm surprised > people in town meetings > don't try to pin him into a corner with that information. I'm surprised they don't ask him about sore shoulders, and Lipitor. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 21:10:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA83AO6q031053 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:10:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CD9A81E6029A; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:05:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A8CD1E60002 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:05:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A39457@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:58:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14211059 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:58:25 -0500 Received: from web20503.mail.yahoo.com (web20503.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.138]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA82wPt24270 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:58:25 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 18:58:24 PST Message-ID: <20031108025824.42085.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:58:24 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: out o town To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031108023539.GA50075@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU He who has not seen a skedaddler does not know life. --- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > Who the hell "skedaddles"? > > I have never seen anybody freaking skedaddle, for > any reason. > Such an activity doesn't exist. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 21:16:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA83Go6q031146 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:16:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1815F1E6029D; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:12:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE2771E6000D for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:12:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D793E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:04:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14211270 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:04:57 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA834ut24667 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:04:56 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA834tsg021489 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:04:56 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:05:27 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <368760577.20031107210527@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <3FAC588C.56CC5097@maynor.net> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77710@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <3FAC588C.56CC5097@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 07, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I can imagine having a lower income than is > comfortable, but I can't imagine "running out of money." You really do live in a protected environment! > As you said in an earlier posting, most retired people live on the > interest of their investments, leaving the principal intact. Do 'most' people really live this way? I thought this was an ideal. Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 21:17:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA83HL6q031159 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:17:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 45E2C1E6029C; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:12:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 177DB1E6000D for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:12:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D7941@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:05:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14211295 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:05:27 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA835Rt24717 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:05:27 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:05:20 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77716@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: middle-classed Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:05:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] >Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 9:44 PM >The medical care (including Rx) is a biggie. And makes me wish I were >Canadian. I really, really, really don't understand why this >country is >the way it is on that subject -- why we consider ourselves a nation> but are in the league of re medical care. Most of it is because the country is capitalist in business and a plutocracy in politics. How are things supposed to work such that it's (medical care) fair for all? What is fair? Remember, we're talking about realism, not Utopia. (If I work 100 hours a week for three years, create something which turns me into a RR, how much should I expect to part with in order to make it fair for someone else to have good medical care?) One of the hot things (still) happens to be HMOs. Originally, HMOs were supposed to be structured such that a physician would be paid a fair amount to keep each patient healthy. The problem is that along the way it was determined that was a theory, not reality. People weren't maintaining their health, they were still waiting until they got sick and (hopefully if it was early) went to the doctor or (even worse) used the ambulance and ER as their first contact (I spent five years working in my teens and early twenties working as an EMT and saw how that option worked, even before HMOs. The worst cases were when you'd be dispatched, administer care, then they'd refuse care once they'd be stabilized. *poof* free care). Under the original arrangement, the concept would mean upon visiting your regular physician, she'd tell you to lose weight, get exercise, and stop smoking. And she'd mean it. Because you were paying to be part of an HMO with reasonable payments. You have to have health in order to maintain it. The problem with that system is people don't like to be told how to live, even when it's in their best interest - especially when it is an order, not a suggestion). It's their "Constitutional Right". (I love seeing people say that in newsclips on television) What HMOs found out was it was too much time, trouble, and effort to make a profit with the way the "system" works (and the things noted above). What they realized was they could take your money and when you needed to spend it, they could say, "No". Instant profit. And even though people have the ability to fight it, the burden is still on the customer to leverage money out of the HMO. That's not a fun thing to do if you've not in a situation where time is of the essence. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 21:18:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA83Is6q031190 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:18:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4628C1E602A7; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:14:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 176E01E6029D for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:14:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D7948@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:07:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14211361 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:07:00 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8370t24811 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:07:00 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003110803065501100il002e> (Authid: adamh1); Sat, 8 Nov 2003 03:06:55 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: $25 per week Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:06:54 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Subject: $25 per week > > > plus $1.50 per minute for national coverage. Cell phone rental. > > Am I getting a reasonable price? Please do not research, just blab away > with your educated impressions. I'm sure this has been answered already, but HELL NO. You can get many decent plans with a free phone for ~$30/MONTH. --Adam adamh1@comcast.net From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 21:19:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA83JJ6q031193 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:19:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 104071E602A7; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:14:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE7581E602A6 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:14:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A39469@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:07:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14211366 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:07:26 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA837Qt24845 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:07:26 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:07:21 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77717@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: $25 per week Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:07:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] >Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 9:51 PM >Peter Kaminski wrote: > >> I know you said not to, but I had to peek at a few web >pages. Tracfone has >> a special deal right now with 60 minutes airtime and a free >reconditioned >> phone for $24.99: >> >http://www.tracfone-orders.com/direct/tr/itemdetl.jsp?prod=1485 >&tech=COGSM1 >> >> Even though its "pay-as-you-go," your account would expire >after 60 days >> unless you kept using the minutes and buying more at a >maximum interval of >> 60 days. > >The only thing that expires after 60 days is the phone number. If you >don't care about keeping the same phone number, there's no >problem. You >can let it expire and still get the rolled-over minutes if you >reactivate (and activation/reactivation is free) within four >months. If >you wait more than four months, then you lose those unused minutes, but >you can reactivate at no cost with the phone you've already bought and >with a card that costs about $16. So it's a good deal all around. So >far I have not let my phone number lapse -- I went on and spent another >$16 a couple of weeks ago to keep my phone number alive, but >it was kind >of dumb. Nobody has that phone number. My only reason for having a >cell phone is for a convenient way to leave a number with Furrbabies >when I'm traveling and don't know exactly where I'm going to be. I don't know if this has an effect on the phone number expiring but isn't there something going into effect sometime during November which allows you to "keep" a phone number, even if you don't maintain service with the service which originally dished the number to you? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 21:20:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA83Ko6q031216 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:20:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 62C3F1E602A7; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:16:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3420F1E602A6 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:16:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D795A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:08:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14211443 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:08:56 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA838ut24944 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:08:56 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:08:51 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77718@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Survivor Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:08:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Lynne Weber [mailto:lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] >Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 9:56 PM >--- Phil Paxton wrote: > >> You forgot to mention Dean is a physician. I'm >> surprised he doesn't try to >> find some way to leverage that. And I'm surprised >> people in town meetings >> don't try to pin him into a corner with that >information. > >I'm surprised they don't ask him about sore shoulders, >and Lipitor. I was thinking more along the lines of the health system and related issues which Hillary "2 for the price of 1" didn't accomplish a few years ago. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 21:22:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA83Mv6q031256 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:22:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6BAB01E6029C; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:18:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D01C1E6000D for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:18:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A39486@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:11:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14211501 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:11:03 -0500 Received: from web20514.mail.yahoo.com (web20514.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA83B3t25074 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:11:03 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 19:11:02 PST Message-ID: <20031108031102.53450.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:11:02 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Survivor To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031107152440.03103e80@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Peter Kaminski wrote: > Lynne Weber writes, > > >A scout leader, on the other hand, has official > duties and powers. I > >don't think a woman could have been a leader during > the 1930's. It just > >wasn't done. > > As a prescriptionist, you should appreciate that you > asked, "When did > female (Boy Scout) leaders come on the scene?" (my > parens), not "When did > female (scout leaders) (or 'scoutmasters') come on > the scene?" > > And as m-w defines "den mother" as "a female adult > (leader)..." > > :) Quite true. And, as you have shown, we were both right. Thanks. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 21:25:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA83Pv6q031290 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:25:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EB7291E6029F; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:21:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2B941E6000D for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:21:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A39497@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:14:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14211564 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:14:04 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA83E4t25252 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:14:04 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108031358.OCMC1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:13:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC5F76.55839D42@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 21:13:58 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <3FAB1836.F4BE5E8E@maynor.net> <3FAC05F9.EA3B8D12@maynor.net> <3FAC122B.C8B4F013@maynor.net> <3FAC44FD.57CB14DD@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > Thank you for your long non-responsive reply, Natalie - I guess. I was not > interested in knowing what you think somebody else means when they say > middle-class - I WAS interested in what YOU mean. But I'm now bored - so > please don't bother to respond. Sorry to bore you further, but here is what you said:' > I simply want to know what you mean "by all the usual scales (economic, > social, etc.)." "All the usual scales" has nothing to do with what *I* think. It has to do with "all the usual scales" -- as in those scales used by sociologists. > I do not save all your messages, brilliant though some of them may be - so > I cannot quote verbatim the statement you made about my having two > mortgages means that I am not after all middle-class - or words to that > effect. I'm sure I can find it in the archives pretty easily, but I think I remember it almost verbatim. Bonnie had just posted the idea that you are , you mentioned the two mortgages, and I paraphrased Mark Twain by saying that the rumors of Bethany's wealth have been greatly exaggerated. I did not say that you were not "middle-class" [sic]. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 21:26:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA83Qg6q031296 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:26:42 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9E93C1E602A2; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:21:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 708651E602A1 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:21:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A39480@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:14:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14211592 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:14:49 -0500 Received: from web20508.mail.yahoo.com (web20508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA83Emt25290 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:14:48 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 19:14:48 PST Message-ID: <20031108031448.22901.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:14:48 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: middle-classed To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: How > much would I have to have > to be middle-classed? I have a gnawing, uncomfortable feeling that if the amount is specified, you will dredge it up somehow, somewhere. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 21:30:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA83UM6q031333 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:30:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 656541E602A0; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:25:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 331981E6029F for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:25:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A394A5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:18:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14211702 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:18:28 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA83ISt25560 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:18:28 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:18:21 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77719@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: Census figures Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:18:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The local news presented some newer numbers than I presented earlier for justifying a special census. Fishers population is expected to be 50k and potentially 54k (or more), not the 40k-43k I mentioned (30k was the number from 2000) - this is ungodly compared to the 7.5k in 1988. The school corporation has increased the number of students by 47% (or 3'600 new students). The number of new houses under construction have increased by 30% since 2000. It turns out they're going to spend $500'000 and will receive at least $3.5M/annually until 2010 (or the next special census). Moving to the countryside is starting to look better & better. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 21:31:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA83Vt6q031341 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:31:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 061F31E6029F; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:27:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC2BF1E6000D for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:27:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3948E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:20:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14211738 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:20:02 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA83K2t25668 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:20:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108031956.ODTX1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:19:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC60DD.18AC1FD@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 21:19:57 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77714@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > > >*"All you poor rednecks can just go to hell - I don't need your votes! > >I'M from VERMONT!" > > You forgot to mention Dean is a physician. I'm surprised he doesn't try to > find some way to leverage that. And I'm surprised people in town meetings > don't try to pin him into a corner with that information. He does mention it fairly often. He says that he understands health-care because he's a doctor, etc. etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 21:34:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA83YG6q031362 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:34:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 91B401E6000D; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:29:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F52A1E6029F for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:29:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3949D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:22:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14211749 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:22:23 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA83MMt25742 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:22:22 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108032217.OEGF1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:22:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC6169.38DFC273@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 21:22:17 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77715@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > Oh, and learned how to > juggle seven balls (two hands, five in one hand) which meant several hours > of practice every day. Have you maintained the skill? The grandson of a friend of mine had a pretty good career going as a street-juggler in New Orleans a while back. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 21:34:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA83Yj6q031387 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:34:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3FE861E602A0; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:29:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DBCF1E6029F for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:29:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A39492@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:22:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14211541 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:22:51 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA83Cpt25186 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:12:51 -0500 Received: (qmail 66871 invoked by uid 1003); 8 Nov 2003 03:12:50 -0000 Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:12:50 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed Message-ID: <20031108031250.GA65276@words-l.org> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77715@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <3FAC5702.9000608@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FAC5702.9000608@swbell.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Phil Paxton wrote: > >I didn't say the *only* thing I read is limited to newspapers. I'm not fond > >of the classics but may return to them someday. As far as time, the last > >time I was on this list, I was working full time plus, taking Japanese & > >Chinese courses, doing my daily reading, etc. etc. Oh, and learned how to > >juggle seven balls (two hands, five in one hand) which meant several hours > >of practice every day. Are you ambidextrous? On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 08:37:54PM -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > Sorry, Phil. Anastasia is more important. I may be nuts, > but I know what I should be doing with my time. You may have a point ... all those activities had struck me as pretty dreary then, and I guess they still strike me as pretty dreary. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 21:37:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA83bt6q031424 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:37:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 74FD01E602A1; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:33:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FC5D1E602A0 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:33:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A394A5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:26:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14211825 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:25:51 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA83PYt25927 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:25:34 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:25:29 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7771A@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Survivor Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:25:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] >Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 10:20 PM >Phil Paxton wrote: >> >> >*"All you poor rednecks can just go to hell - I don't need >your votes! >> >I'M from VERMONT!" >> >> You forgot to mention Dean is a physician. I'm surprised he >doesn't try to >> find some way to leverage that. And I'm surprised people in >town meetings >> don't try to pin him into a corner with that information. > >He does mention it fairly often. He says that he understands >health-care because he's a doctor, etc. etc. He understands it like he knows how to use a syringe. (My personal policy is to never permit a physican to wield a syringe.) Someone needs to ask him when the last time was they he filled out paperwork first-hand. Or, when he had to make arrangements with a health facility, supplier, insurance provider, etc. without telling them he has "Dr." on the front of his name or "M.D." at the end. It'll be interesting to see if he moves on the gambit of refusing public funding. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 21:41:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA83fC6q031444 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:41:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2896D1E6029F; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:36:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2D331E602A1 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:36:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A394AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:29:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14211916 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:29:18 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA83TIt26172 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:29:18 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003110803291201100ld3m1e>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 03:29:12 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031107192146.03414ba0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 19:28:44 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: $25 per week In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77717@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton writes, >I don't know if this has an effect on the phone number expiring but isn't >there something going into effect sometime during November which allows you >to "keep" a phone number, even if you don't maintain service with the >service which originally dished the number to you? Number portability: http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/NumberPortability/ Now is a good time to ask for a better deal from your provider because you can threaten to switch, but a bad time to re-up on a contract, because you may actually want to switch when it becomes possible to keep your number. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 21:41:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA83fV6q031455 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:41:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E3A4B1E602A1; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:36:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B516D1E6029F for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:36:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D7986@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:29:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14211927 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:29:38 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA83Tct26188 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:29:38 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108032932.OFSG1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:29:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC631D.9AB7A125@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 21:29:33 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: <20031108024457.90966.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Do any Democrats, including Al Sharpton, seriously > regard Al Sharpton as a viable candidate? And if so, > why? I don't think so. His baggage is way, way too heavy. But I do enjoy what he has to say because it is both funny and smart. Although I hope he does not and doubt very much that he will end up the Democratic nominee, I would vote for him over Dubya in a flash. And not just because he's a Democrat. As I have said at various times, I am not and have never been a Yellow Dog. I have voted for Thad Cochran on more than one occasion, to name just one example. I would vote for Sharpton because I think he is head and shoulders above Dubya. He would make mincemeat of Dubya in a debate. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 21:45:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA83jr6q031508 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:45:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 883111E6000D; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:41:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 557A31E6029A for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:41:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A394D7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:33:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14212187 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:33:59 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA83Xxt26865 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:33:59 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:33:48 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7771B@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: middle-classed Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:33:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] >Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 10:22 PM >Phil Paxton wrote: > >> Oh, and learned how to >> juggle seven balls (two hands, five in one hand) which meant >several hours >> of practice every day. >Have you maintained the skill? The grandson of a friend of mine had a >pretty good career going as a street-juggler in New Orleans a while >back. It's *very* impressive to be a street performer - that's a tough thing to do (I'm not a performer, just someone who does it for myself) It's hard to practice without light to see what I'm doing - and that means overhead light - even indoors with open areas at work. Three is still easy. If I practice for an hour or so, I can get back to simple runs of five balls. If I had the ability to practice without dealing with the light, I'd be back up to seven balls in a month or two with about an hour or so every day. I haven't juggled clubs or torches in about three or four years so I'd be totally rusty doing either of those. If you want to see some good stuff, check out http://www.anthonygatto.com. His dad was a performer and was able to coach him growing up. He's the only person to ever "juggle his age." (he juggled five balls when he was five years old) At ten, he had his own Vegas show and was earning $1k/week (I think he's in his late 20s now). He was the third person to juggle seven clubs - he did it when he was thirteen. The first to juggle seven torches. Beyond that, I haven't kept up on all of his exploits. Here's a tv commercial starring a friend of mine: http://lutkus.rh.rit.edu/juggling/promo/Jay%20Gilligan%20-%20commercial.mpg Most of the time, jugglers are relegated to standing in the background of a sitcom, passing a couple of balls back-and-forth. It's too bad they don't do more things like this. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 21:51:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA83pl6q031534 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:51:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EC79B1E602A0; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:47:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7FE51E6029A for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:47:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A394E1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:39:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14212307 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:39:53 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA83drt27390 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:39:53 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108033947.OVUP1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:39:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC6584.19B1E02A@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 21:39:48 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77716@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > How are things supposed to work such that it's (medical care) fair for all? > What is fair? Remember, we're talking about realism, not Utopia. Tony -- please explain how it works in Canada. The Canadian system seems to work quite well. And it is realism -- as in it's right there and working. > (If I work 100 hours a week for three years, create something which turns me > into a RR, how much should I expect to part with in order to make it fair > for someone else to have good medical care?) Depends on how selfish you are. What about the people working for 100+ hours a week but who don't create something to turn them into RRs? Does their lack of creative ability mean that in spite of their hard work scrubbing floors or whatever they're doing mean that they don't deserve medical care? > What HMOs found out was it was too much time, trouble, and effort to make a > profit with the way the "system" works (and the things noted above). What > they realized was they could take your money and when you needed to spend > it, they could say, "No". Instant profit. And even though people have the > ability to fight it, the burden is still on the customer to leverage money > out of the HMO. That's not a fun thing to do if you've not in a situation > where time is of the essence. I know zero about HMOs. The little bit I've heard about them has all sounded negative. I don't think Canada has HMOs. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 21:52:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA83qK6q031538 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:52:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B8FCF1E6029F; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:47:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 886791E6029A for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:47:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A394E6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:40:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14212358 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:40:27 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA83eQt27517 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:40:27 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hA83eN2K027928 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:40:24 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:40:55 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <981121332.20031107214055@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7771B@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7771B@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 07, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > I haven't juggled clubs or torches in about three or four years so I'd > be totally rusty doing either of those. I have several friends here who are jugglers; when they've told me that they do this, I always think of you. Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 21:52:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA83qt6q031542 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:52:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1EF091E6029F; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:48:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E39A01E6029A for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:48:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A394DB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:41:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14212376 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:41:01 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA83f1t27587 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:41:01 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <20031108034056016007696ie> (Authid: adamh1); Sat, 8 Nov 2003 03:40:56 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: middle-classed Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:40:55 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3FAC588C.56CC5097@maynor.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I don't really get this. I can imagine having a lower income than is > comfortable, but I can't imagine "running out of money." As you said in > an earlier posting, most retired people live on the interest of their > investments, leaving the principal intact. That is my intention. You mean YOU can't imagine YOURSELF running out of money, or you can't imagine it in general? I hope it's the former and not the latter. Some retired people have no investments. My parents aren't retired yet but they have no investments and no IRAs and no 401(k)s. I'm very worried about that, as Dad's 68 and Mom is 63. Granny, 87, never started with money, so I guess she hasn't "run out". She was "living" on $800 Social Security a month, plus a $150/month pension. All major expenses such as taxes, home maintenance, and car repair were borne by her daughters. Now she's in a nursing home paid for by Medicaid. The nursing home gets the Social Sec money and the pension. I'm afraid of a new state law that allows the state to break trusts that Medicaid-recipients' houses are in - so that at death of the recipient, they can break the trust and get up to half the value of the house. Granny's house is in a trust....it's no prize, but Auntie Val and Mom were hoping to at least recoup the tens of thousands of dollars from its sale that they've poured into it over the past 3 decades. *sigh* --Adam adamh1@comcast.net From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 21:53:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA83rh6q031546 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:53:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8E8081E602A0; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:48:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F5781E6029F for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:48:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A394DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:41:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14212400 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:41:49 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA83fnt27631 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:41:49 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:41:44 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7771C@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: middle-classed Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:41:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Diegetic Mutant Hog [mailto:whore@WORDS-L.ORG] >Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 10:13 PM >> Phil Paxton wrote: >> >I didn't say the *only* thing I read is limited to >newspapers. I'm not fond >> >of the classics but may return to them someday. As far as >time, the last >> >time I was on this list, I was working full time plus, >taking Japanese & >> >Chinese courses, doing my daily reading, etc. etc. Oh, and >learned how to >> >juggle seven balls (two hands, five in one hand) which >meant several hours >> >of practice every day. > >Are you ambidextrous? I helped a neuropsychologist standardize some of his tests about ten years or so after his office said I'd do it by taking a day off work (they were surprised because it was not a for-compensation situation). He told me, "there are primary, secondary, and tertiary types of ambidexterity. Secondary is when you can do some things with one hand and others with the other hand; e.g., baseball: throws left, bats right. Tertiary is when you really can't do things very well with either hand; most people say, 'Hey, that's me! I'm a klutz' and that's not what it means. And then there's primary. One can do things equally well with either hand. And if one cannot do it immediately with one hand it doesn't take long for it to 'learn'. Congratulations, you are a primary." I have no idea about all of that, I'm just citing what he said. I can, however, do things equally well with either hand. When I was juggling a little more earnestly, if I had problems with a pattern in one direction|hand, I'd switch it and it would come easier, then switching back, all would be fine. My mom told me that I was always that way except for when I was around two - I broke my right arm and had to have the cast strapped against my body so I wouldn't hurt anything by swinging my arm around. On juggling & coordination: most people say they can't learn. Most are surprised when they find out how simple it really is. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 21:53:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA83rj6q031549 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:53:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 632261E6029F; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:48:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35B8A1E6000D for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:48:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A394EA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:41:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14212404 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:41:51 -0500 Received: from web20512.mail.yahoo.com (web20512.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA83fpt27636 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:41:51 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20512.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 19:41:50 PST Message-ID: <20031108034150.17648.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:41:50 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Survivor To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77718@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Phil Paxton wrote: > I was thinking more along the lines of the health > system and related issues > which Hillary "2 for the price of 1" didn't > accomplish a few years ago. Using the same "2 for the price of l" gambit, pin him in that corner until he advises AND consents. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 21:59:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA83x66q031602 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:59:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9C4181E602A0; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:54:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DD371E6029F for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:54:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D79A7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:47:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14212485 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:47:13 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA83lCt28031 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:47:12 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:47:01 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7771D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: middle-classed Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:47:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Adam Hartfield [mailto:adamh1@COMCAST.NET] >Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 10:41 PM >Granny, 87, never started with money, so I guess she hasn't >"run out". She >was "living" on $800 Social Security a month, plus a >$150/month pension. All >major expenses such as taxes, home maintenance, and car repair >were borne by >her daughters. Now she's in a nursing home paid for by >Medicaid. The nursing >home gets the Social Sec money and the pension. > >I'm afraid of a new state law that allows the state to break >trusts that >Medicaid-recipients' houses are in - so that at death of the >recipient, they >can break the trust and get up to half the value of the house. Granny's >house is in a trust....it's no prize, but Auntie Val and Mom >were hoping to >at least recoup the tens of thousands of dollars from its sale >that they've >poured into it over the past 3 decades. *sigh* IIRC, Medicaid will only pay for a nursing home when all of the assets have been burned - at least here in Indiana. So unless you redistribute houses etc before going into the nursing home, you'll have to pay for the nursing home out-of-pocket until everything else is gone. Maybe this is what they're doing after-the-fact? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 22:00:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA840j6q031615 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:00:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 846F41E6029F; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:55:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5542C1E6000D for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:55:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A394F1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:48:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14212495 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:48:51 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA83mpt28072 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:48:51 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hA83mg2K001787 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:48:49 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:49:13 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <82287512.20031107214913@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7771C@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7771C@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 07, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > And then there's primary. One can do things equally well with either > hand. And if one cannot do it immediately with one hand it doesn't > take long for it to 'learn'. Congratulations, you are a primary." > I have no idea about all of that, I'm just citing what he said. I can, > however, do things equally well with either hand. When I was juggling a > little more earnestly, if I had problems with a pattern in one > direction|hand, I'd switch it and it would come easier, then switching back, > all would be fine. I thought that was how everyone worked. That's what I did to do Japanese calligraphy; I'd learn the strokes with my left hand, and then write it with my right. It drove my teacher insane, but it worked for me. I've learned other things that way, too. Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 22:02:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA842l6q031634 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:02:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 488651E6029F; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:58:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13EAE1E6000D for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:58:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A394E8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:50:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14212531 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:50:53 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA83ort28214 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:50:53 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.171.60]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108035048.GRVG1849.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:50:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAC6818.1575E036@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 21:50:48 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77710@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <3FAC588C.56CC5097@maynor.net> <368760577.20031107210527@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > I can imagine having a lower income than is > > comfortable, but I can't imagine "running out of money." > > You really do live in a protected environment! ?? Of course I do. I have a pension for the rest of my life that will move up with cost-of-living adjustments every year (the so-called "thirteenth check"). I don't think of that as exactly a "protected environment," though I guess I can see how those words might apply to it. It's because I took pains to protect myself. Iow, it's not as if some outside entity stepped in to this environment. It is why I did what I did in my career -- why I stayed in the same job for as long as I did. I wanted to end up with a decent retirement income that was not dependent upon ups and downs of stock markets or on what strokes of luck I might have late in life or whatever. > > As you said in an earlier posting, most retired people live on the > > interest of their investments, leaving the principal intact. > > Do 'most' people really live this way? I thought this was an ideal. I would assume so, but I don't really know. Most retired people I know locally who have talked about such things (and that is not a large number of people) live off of their pensions and social security and use their investment income for splurges or emergencies -- and certainly not the principal. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 22:03:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA84386q031637 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:03:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E75041E6029A; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:58:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B96471E6000D for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:58:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A394F5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:51:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14212540 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:51:14 -0500 Received: from web20505.mail.yahoo.com (web20505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA83pEt28247 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:51:14 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 19:51:13 PST Message-ID: <20031108035113.81065.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:51:13 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Waxing Rhapsodic To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I have just listened once more to "An American in Paris" and "Rhapsody in Blue". I know these two pieces are artistically and technically flawed. M. Rosen has told us so. But, the point is, I ADORE THEM ANYHOW! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 22:08:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA848F6q031673 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:08:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 404E01E6029F; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:03:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 085F01E6029A for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:03:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3953B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:56:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14213237 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:56:21 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA83uLt28756 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:56:21 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA83uJSf020257 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:56:20 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:56:51 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1739435277.20031107215651@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <3FAC6818.1575E036@maynor.net> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77710@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <3FAC588C.56CC5097@maynor.net> <368760577.20031107210527@WordWrite.com> <3FAC6818.1575E036@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 07, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> > I can imagine having a lower income than is >> > comfortable, but I can't imagine "running out of money." >> >> You really do live in a protected environment! > ?? Of course I do. I have a pension for the rest of my life that will > move up with cost-of-living adjustments every year (the so-called > "thirteenth check"). I don't think of that as exactly a "protected > environment," though I guess I can see how those words might apply to > it. I was referring to not knowing anyone who has run out of money, not to your own situation. >> > As you said in an earlier posting, most retired people live on the >> > interest of their investments, leaving the principal intact. >> >> Do 'most' people really live this way? I thought this was an ideal. > I would assume so, but I don't really know. Most retired people I know > locally who have talked about such things (and that is not a large > number of people) live off of their pensions and social security and use > their investment income for splurges or emergencies -- and certainly not > the principal. Yeah, but they've probably all been to Europe, too. Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 22:22:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA84MO6q031771 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:22:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C11D41E6000B; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:17:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 898D81E60003 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:17:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A39745@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:10:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14217320 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:10:31 -0500 Received: from web20507.mail.yahoo.com (web20507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA84AUt31429 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:10:30 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 20:10:30 PST Message-ID: <20031108041030.10208.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:10:30 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: middle-classed To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Adam Hartfield wrote: > I'm afraid of a new state law that allows the state > to break trusts that > Medicaid-recipients' houses are in - so that at > death of the recipient, they > can break the trust and get up to half the value of > the house. Granny's > house is in a trust....it's no prize, but Auntie Val > and Mom were hoping to > at least recoup the tens of thousands of dollars > from its sale that they've > poured into it over the past 3 decades. *sigh* This sort of thing worries me, too - not personally so much as for those in exactly your family's position. One knows the government can't go on forever providing care, but the families should have some financial rights preserved for them. Government at some level should have come up with a decent and equitable formula by now. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 22:33:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA84XI6q031876 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:33:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0F8A81E6000B; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:28:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D523F1E60007 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:28:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A39735@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:21:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14217469 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:21:24 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA84LOt32098 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:21:24 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:21:17 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77720@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: Topic Change Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:21:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Just on the local news.... This happened last week, but they just popped up with a reminder (because they played another game tonight). A HS football player made the winning tackle to stop the opposition last week. He and a bunch of his buddies head over to a party and have a good time. He refuses help to get home and you can guess what happened to him. The team all wore jerseys with the #40 on them as they took the field in his honor. It turns out the house where the party took place is owned by a fireman - and it's not the first time - one of many - and he's been present. It turns out he's a parent with a son attending that school. So his son is mourning the loss of a friend and he's facing the potential end of a career if not more serious charges involving jail time. The excise folks have something like "Illegal Alcohol Sales" which falls into the situation of minors attending [multiple] gatherings where alcohol is consumed in the presence of an adult (repeatedly the same adult). From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 22:37:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA84bu6q031897 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:37:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5F8FD1E60007; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:33:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC811E60005 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:33:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D7C19@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:26:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14217670 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:25:55 -0500 Received: from web20511.mail.yahoo.com (web20511.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.150]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA84Ptt32664 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:25:55 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20511.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 20:25:49 PST Message-ID: <20031108042549.29011.qmail@web20511.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:25:49 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Topic Change To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77720@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Phil Paxton wrote: > Just on the local news.... > > This happened last week, but they just popped up > with a reminder (because > they played another game tonight). > > A HS football player made the winning tackle to stop > the opposition last > week. He and a bunch of his buddies head over to a > party and have a good > time. He refuses help to get home and you can guess > what happened to him. > The team all wore jerseys with the #40 on them as > they took the field in his > honor. It turns out the house where the party took > place is owned by a > fireman - and it's not the first time - one of many > - and he's been present. > It turns out he's a parent with a son attending that > school. So his son is > mourning the loss of a friend and he's facing the > potential end of a career > if not more serious charges involving jail time. > The excise folks have > something like "Illegal Alcohol Sales" which falls > into the situation of > minors attending [multiple] gatherings where alcohol > is consumed in the > presence of an adult (repeatedly the same adult). Pray continue - observations, resolutions, etc. Start us off, please. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 22:43:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA84hp6q031953 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:43:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CF0DC1E6000C; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:39:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D4F91E6000B for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:39:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3977E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:31:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14218128 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:31:57 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f110.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.110]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA84Vut00653 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:31:56 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:31:51 -0800 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 08 Nov 2003 04:31:50 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: middle-classed Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 23:31:50 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2003 04:31:51.0224 (UTC) FILETIME=[3AE2C380:01C3A5B1] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Yes! This is just like the old days! >From: Natalie Maynor >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: middle-classed >Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:21:01 -0600 > >"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > > >I'm not sure that I understand your question. I've never thought about > > >middle-classed . Or are you talking about the scales > > >used by sociologists in putting people into classes -- the > > >education/income/etc scales? > > > > I simply want to know what you mean "by all the usual scales (economic, > > social, etc.)." > >Sorry. I assumed that you had at some point taken Intro to Sociology or >perhaps Sociolinguistics. (I realize that recent trends in >sociolinguistics are away from the class groupings and more into >networks, etc., but even the current books make some brief mention of >the class stuff.) I don't have any Intro to Socio books handy, though >I'm sure the basic stuff about delineating classes is easily findable on >the web. I do have one or two Socioling books on my shelves. I guess I >could go drag something like Wardhaugh down and quote from it if you >want stuff on the subject. Let me know if you >really want me to do that. Otherwise, I'll write off the top of my >head: It is generally agreed, I think, that delineating social classes >is messy and fuzzy (in the U.S.), but pretty much all of the various >scales used include certain elements like income, education level, >profession. Many also include education level of father (not usually >mother). And some include things like location/type of residence and >kinds of hobbies. E.g., being a golfer moves you up, while being a >bowler moves you down. Some, especially in the South, also include >religious preference. Were you a cradle Episcopalian? That would >ratchet you up a few notches in the South. > > > Or - what are the facts about me that make me > > middle-classed in your estimation - > >Your profession, your education, your habits. It may be, of course, >that you have been putting us on in talk about the importance of your >planning for retirement etc. and that you actually have several billion >dollars in the trust funds left to you by your Brahmin grandparents in >Boston and that your parents were mightily chagrined that you chose to >go into something lowly like college teaching. Iow, I may be wrong. > > > when by your standards I do not have > > enough money/investments to be middle-class. How much would I have to >have > > to be middle-classed? > >This is amazing. Are you sure you really did graduate from law school? >How many times did it take you to pass the bar exam? Please show me >where I have said that you do not have enough money/investments to be >middle-class [sic -- sort of like being bless]. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) _________________________________________________________________ Is your computer infected with a virus? Find out with a FREE computer virus scan from McAfee. Take the FreeScan now! http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 22:55:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA84te6q032123 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:55:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 78CB11E6000C; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:50:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 499F21E602A0 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:50:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A397B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:43:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14218546 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:43:46 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA84hkt01470 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:43:46 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA84hge6014500 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:43:44 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <003401c3a5b2$e08cee40$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <331903331866.331866331903@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3FAC5449.D3CB2E60@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Survivor Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:43:38 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Re the John and Joe examples, I do hope that they as well as many voters have > noted those blog comments. They are telling cases for what is growing > more and more obvious to many people: Republican = Racist. I was > talking just today to my (at risk of sounding like Bethany and her postings>) financial advisor, who has some strong familial Republican > connections and has perhaps herself voted Republican. She was saying > that it's not necessarily true that all Republicans are racists though > it's pretty clearly true that all racists are Republican. (I would of > course have tempered that with "almost all" -- I think "all" is almost > always too extreme. > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I'm much too tired to enter an argument on this subject, but I must say I was positively amazed to read your acceptance of and repetition of such a wide and stupid generalization. Just as your earlier comments today on "middle-classed characteristics" reveal southern sentiments and your own personal programming, so do your comments about Republicans. (Well, "almost all" Republicans) So what's new? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 22:56:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA84uA6q032128 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:56:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 373BF1E602A0; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:51:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 088211E6000C for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:51:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A397B7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:44:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14218556 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:44:16 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA84iGt01502 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:44:16 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:44:05 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77721@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Topic Change Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:44:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Lynne Weber [mailto:lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] >Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 11:26 PM >Pray continue - observations, resolutions, etc. Start >us off, please. A moment of silence before the game, a visit from Tony Dungy, current coach of the Indianapolis Colts, who has dealt with the entire spectrum of situations as a coach. They did the lead-in for the story as an opening for the news, then didn't complete the story until the "official sports segment". They won the sectional 28-7, obviously it was emotional. I was telling my wife the other day that game has to be a real sticky situation. I played soccer in college and although we didn't have situations like this, I know there are some difficulties here. I was telling my wife the other day that this is a sticky situation. You want to rally the troops, but you don't dare say, "Let's win this for Jimmy!" If you do and things don't go well, then you stand the chance of getting flustered and try even harder and it makes it tough all the way around. Then you stand the chance of motivating without mentioning him and they begin to think, "What about Jimmy?" It turns out another football player was at the party but did not consume alcohol so he was allowed to play. The news said the school didn't have a formal method of discipline for dealing with students who drink, so they haven't done anything to the other students at the party. There has been a lot of stink over the years as to whether all students follow the same policy or just athletes or students in extracurricular activities. And all of those scenarios get bounced around in the various court systems. To be honest, I was surprised there were only two football players at that party. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 22:59:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA84xs6q032153 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:59:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AD2C61E6000D; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:55:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B6CA1E6000C for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:55:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D7C6E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:47:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14218635 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:48:00 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA84lxt01870 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:47:59 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:47:54 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77722@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: Politics Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:47:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU There is one thing the Democrats need to do which seems to be a bit of an Achilles tendon for them during every Presidential election: Have a specific platform and campaign on those terms. I know they have a platforma and work it out at their conventions but when you hear them speak, it's not we stand for , it's "they are doing and we won't stand for it." IOW, they become the anti-Republican party, not the Democratic party. I'm sure some will dismiss this by saying they do state what they are for, but if I were to sit down and analyze a lot of what's said, it really is "anti-" not . From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 23:03:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA853l6q032179 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:03:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BD7461E6000D; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:59:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F4F01E6000C for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:59:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A397D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:51:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14218678 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:51:53 -0500 Received: from web20512.mail.yahoo.com (web20512.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA84pqt02116 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:51:52 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20512.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 20:51:52 PST Message-ID: <20031108045152.33274.qmail@web20512.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:51:52 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Survivor To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <003401c3a5b2$e08cee40$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > Re the John and Joe examples, I do hope that they > as well as many > voters have > > noted those blog comments. They are telling cases > for what is growing > > more and more obvious to many people: Republican > = Racist. I was > > talking just today to my (at risk of sounding like > Bethany and her > > postings>) financial advisor, who has some strong > familial Republican > > connections and has perhaps herself voted > Republican. She was saying > > that it's not necessarily true that all > Republicans are racists though > > it's pretty clearly true that all racists are > Republican. (I would of > > course have tempered that with "almost all" -- I > think "all" is almost > > always too extreme. > > -- > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > I'm much too tired to enter an argument on this > subject, > but I must say I was positively amazed to read your > acceptance of and repetition of such a wide and > stupid > generalization. Just as your earlier comments today > on > "middle-classed characteristics" reveal southern > sentiments > and your own personal programming, so do your > comments > about Republicans. (Well, "almost all" Republicans) > So what's new? > > - D. M. I find I am again in agreement with you, Doris. This and the statement regarding Sharpton - who would still be a low-life crook if he were purple with puce appendages - sounded a bit hysterical to me at the time. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 23:11:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA85Bm6q032291 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:11:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 452341E6000C; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:07:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15D861E6000B for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:07:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A397FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:59:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14218970 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:59:54 -0500 Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com (web20502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA84xst02573 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:59:54 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 20:59:53 PST Message-ID: <20031108045953.34173.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:59:53 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Topic Change To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77721@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Phil Paxton wrote: There has been a > lot of stink over the years as to whether all > students follow the same > policy or just athletes or students in > extracurricular activities. And all > of those scenarios get bounced around in the various > court systems. > > To be honest, I was surprised there were only two > football players at that > party. But what about the fireman-parent? In AL, the old contributing laws have been supplanted by charges that sound more up-to-date and are easier to make stick. Of course, you can't go onto private property and arrest folks for drinking, but the fireman-parent can be charged with "Allowing minor in poss. of alco", or some such. That requires a court appearance, and any repeat performances would certainly come to the knowledge of the judge. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 23:41:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA85fZ6q032574 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:41:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E89191E60012; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:36:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B359C1E60011 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:36:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3993E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 0:29:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14221357 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 00:28:14 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA85Ket04758 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 00:20:40 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA85KbSf003260 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:20:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:21:09 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <546383333.20031107232109@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: E-pinions? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I was looking something up on E-pinions, and I noticed that they listed the lowest base price as $75, but the lowest price of any of the stores listed was $90. Why the discrepancy? Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 23:41:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA85fc6q032577 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:41:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AE36A1E60012; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:36:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FF081E60011 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:36:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A39936@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 0:29:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14221443 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 00:28:16 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA85NJt04897 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 00:23:19 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 02EC52B8EF; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:23:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA0052B8CB for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:23:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:23:18 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: phone prices Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thanks for the appraisals. I'm surprised at how cheap you can get phones. I don't mind being ripped off in this case - I will spend a total of about $40, is my estimation, for 8 days of an emergency & terse communications phone. Seems worth it to me. I won't be so happy if somehow we end up really using it, though. The $35 dollars I just spent for my half of a 3-course Chinese meal in the Embarcadero Center, though, jeez, WHAT A RIP. And there were only Asian faces dining with us! I don't get it. Probably guests at the Hyatt next door. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 23:41:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA85fp6q032580 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:41:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D779D1E60011; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:37:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7BBA1E60012 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:37:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3994A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 0:29:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14221755 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 00:29:45 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA85Tjt05433 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 00:29:45 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 00:29:38 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77723@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Topic Change Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 00:29:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Lynne Weber [mailto:lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] >Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 12:00 AM >--- Phil Paxton wrote: > There has been a >> lot of stink over the years as to whether all >> students follow the same >> policy or just athletes or students in >> extracurricular activities. And all >> of those scenarios get bounced around in the various >> court systems. >> >> To be honest, I was surprised there were only two >> football players at that >> party. > >But what about the fireman-parent? In AL, the old >contributing laws have been supplanted by charges that >sound more up-to-date and are easier to make stick. >Of course, you can't go onto private property and >arrest folks for drinking, but the fireman-parent can >be charged with "Allowing minor in poss. of alco", or >some such. That requires a court appearance, and any >repeat performances would certainly come to the >knowledge of the judge. The news hasn't been very forthcoming about the status of the fireman-parent. I suspect this is to let the student's death situation to run its course (that sounds rather trite, I realize) and move forward after that. A MADD representative said she'd reserve comment until after the official tox screening, which is usually stated to take two or three weeks. I sometimes wonder if that's not to allow situations to cool down whereas if they did it quickly, it would keep fanning the flames. The Fire Chief has already been interviewed in almost any way you can imagine - especially given the fact we're in sweeps[1] (if it bleeds, it leads). His comments have generally been along the lines of, "well, we've never really had any problems with him before" spoken in a tone like you'd expect from a zoo keeper commenting on a bear. [1] During the time I was an EMT, there were two things relating to this type of situation - one was that while I didn't travel in the "cool" circles, there were things I knew "everyone else" didn't. The occasional OD by someone experimenting or showing off at a party during the weekend. Come Monday, the rumors would be circulating but I'd know the truth because I was in on everything. The other had to do with sweeps. The nearest television stations were in South Bend and Fort Wayne, each about an hour's drive away. There was a tv crew from South Bend covering something else and a rather nasty accident occurred and they got in on the story (and in the way). We didn't have any cops on the scene yet so I was asked to "take care of them". During a segment when there were no recording equipment on and they were trying to get the next part of the story set up, I walked up to the reporter and explained to her in no uncertain terms that if they didn't pack up and take a hike, the microphone she'd been speaking into would be found at the other end of her alimentary canal. The vocabulary escaped her until I explained what it meant. She didn't know what to do until I pointed to my medical mentor and I explained that the last time someone p%ssed him off at an accident scene, the cops handcuffed him to the ambulance's steering wheel and that he taught me everything he knew. They were gone before the cops got to the scene. I was literally telling the truth as what p%ssed him off was the fact a guy had been out getting bombed then took his family out for a drive and parked his car under the back end of a semi sitting at a red light out on the highway. He was untouched, his wife (easily capable of being "Miss " faced years of plastic surgery to look human, and the two kids were turned into maracas (sp?) (they weren't strapped in). My buddy walked up, figured out what happened, dragged the guy out, and was going to play judge, jury, and executioner until two cops helped me drag him away. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 7 23:45:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA85ja6q032649 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:45:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 996FF1E60264; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:40:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 673871E60012 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:40:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3996F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 0:33:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14221963 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 00:33:41 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA85Xft05833 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 00:33:41 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hA85Xcvi015352 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:33:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:34:10 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1997482432.20031107233410@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: E-pinions? In-Reply-To: <546383333.20031107232109@WordWrite.com> References: <546383333.20031107232109@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 07, 2003, Karen Kay wrote: > I was looking something up on E-pinions, and I noticed that they listed > the lowest base price as $75, but the lowest price of any of the > stores listed was $90. Why the discrepancy? Never mind; I figured it out. (Because the default is the lowest total price.) Karen, Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 07:49:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8Dnj6q004453 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 07:49:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6B0CC1E602A6; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 07:44:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BEC91E6000E for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 07:44:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A39CD2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 8:37:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14229875 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:37:47 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8DRlt31758 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:27:47 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA8DR23W001185 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:27:06 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:27:42 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: medical care In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77716@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Message-ID: References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77716@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I was surprised this week to see a WSJ page 1 story about a doctor in Greenville, TN. He accepts NO insurance - but charges so little that people can afford to go to him. That may be our future. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 07:51:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8DpF6q004464 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 07:51:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 054C81E602A6; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 07:46:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB9A01E6002D for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 07:46:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D8111@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 8:39:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14230047 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:39:17 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8DTHt32211 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:29:17 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA8DSa3W001408 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:28:36 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:29:17 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: $25 per week In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77717@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Message-ID: References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77717@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: >I don't know if this has an effect on the phone number expiring but isn't >there something going into effect sometime during November which allows you >to "keep" a phone number, even if you don't maintain service with the >service which originally dished the number to you? Yes - IF you transfer to another - or that't the way I understand it. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 07:52:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8Dq46q004475 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 07:52:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 14E581E602A7; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 07:47:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA8641E602A6 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 07:47:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D8112@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 8:40:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14230057 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:40:07 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8DU6t32276 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:30:06 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA8DTP3W001533 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:29:25 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:30:05 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <20031108031448.22901.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031108031448.22901.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > How >> much would I have to have >> to be middle-classed? > > >I have a gnawing, uncomfortable feeling that if the >amount is specified, you will dredge it up somehow, somewhere. It? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 07:53:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8DrQ6q004482 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 07:53:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4902D1E602A9; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 07:48:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1431D1E6000E for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 07:48:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A39CBB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 8:41:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14230255 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:41:28 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8DfRt00411 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:41:27 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA8DfQsg000674 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 07:41:27 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 07:42:00 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1641911189.20031108074200@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: medical care In-Reply-To: References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77716@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 08, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > I was surprised this week to see a WSJ page 1 story about a doctor in > Greenville, TN. He accepts NO insurance - but charges so little that > people can afford to go to him. That may be our future. None of the doctors I saw in California took insurance. Also, you could actually go see them when you were sick. They weren't cheap, but the level of care I received was very high. When I actually had insurance, I looked for doctors here that don't take insurance, but couldn't find any. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 08:08:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8E8U6q004692 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:08:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 644D71E6002D; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:03:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3372C1E6000E for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:03:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A39CCD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 8:56:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14230432 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:56:26 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8DuPt01141 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:56:26 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108135620.UYQC20018.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:56:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3FACF605.AD5956D6@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 07:56:21 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: $25 per week References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77717@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > I don't know if this has an effect on the phone number expiring but isn't > there something going into effect sometime during November which allows you > to "keep" a phone number, even if you don't maintain service with the > service which originally dished the number to you? I've also wondered whether that will affect Tracfone customers. I'm guessing not. Though I haven't paid attention to the details of the new rule, I'm guessing that it will apply only to changing carriers, not to retiring a phone for possible reactivation months or years later. If it included the latter, think about all the phone numbers that would be lost forever -- like numbers dying with their owners, etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 08:09:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8E9j6q004698 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:09:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EEFF81E60030; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:04:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0DC41E6002D for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:04:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A39CE8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 8:57:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14230451 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:57:48 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8Dvlt01239 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:57:47 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108135742.UYXE20018.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:57:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3FACF657.1D9B5F86@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 07:57:43 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: $25 per week References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77717@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU PS: I meant to add re Tracfone that there are plans that allow you not to bother with adding minutes every 60 days to keep your number -- there are year-long cards you can buy. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 08:12:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8EC46q004715 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:12:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3DA7C1E6002D; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:07:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B8FB1E6000E for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:07:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A39CEA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 9:00:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14230474 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:00:06 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8E06t01380 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:00:06 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108140000.UZMH20018.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:00:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3FACF6E1.B9D77D75@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 08:00:01 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7771A@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > It'll be interesting to see if he moves on the gambit of refusing public > funding. I haven't checked this morning to see how the vote came out. The plan was that he would go with the choice made by his supporters. Even after Joe Trippi's call, I did not participate. I think midnight last night was the end of the voting period, so I assume that an announcement has been made by now. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 08:14:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8EET6q004750 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:14:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B32271E60030; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:09:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8361E1E6002E for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:09:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A39CE7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 9:02:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14230570 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:02:31 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8E2Vt01634 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:02:31 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108140226.VABK20018.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:02:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3FACF772.E199966B@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 08:02:26 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7771B@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > >Have you maintained the skill? The grandson of a friend of mine had a > >pretty good career going as a street-juggler in New Orleans a while > >back. > > It's *very* impressive to be a street performer - that's a tough thing to do I don't know how long he did it. It was not something he planned on for a life-time profession. I think he later went on to grad school and is doing something less now. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 08:15:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8EFZ6q004774 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:15:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4F0E21E60029; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:10:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 208A31E602A9 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:10:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A39CF9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 9:03:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14230626 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:03:37 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8E3bt01738 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:03:37 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-192.gwi.net [216.195.150.192]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA8E3WGp018056; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:03:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031108090243.00b19348@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 09:03:30 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <1739435277.20031107215651@WordWrite.com> References: <3FAC6818.1575E036@maynor.net> <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77710@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <3FAC588C.56CC5097@maynor.net> <368760577.20031107210527@WordWrite.com> <3FAC6818.1575E036@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:56 PM 11/7/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Friday, November 07, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > I would assume so, but I don't really know. Most retired people I know > > locally who have talked about such things (and that is not a large > > number of people) live off of their pensions and social security and use > > their investment income for splurges or emergencies -- and certainly not > > the principal. > >Yeah, but they've probably all been to Europe, too. As a matter of fact, we have... cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 08:16:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8EG16q004778 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:16:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CD6971E60031; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:11:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D3F61E6002D for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:11:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A39CE1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 9:04:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14230402 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:04:03 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8Ds3t01028 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:54:03 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA8DrM3W005000 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:53:22 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:54:02 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: medical care In-Reply-To: <1641911189.20031108074200@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77716@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <1641911189.20031108074200@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >None of the doctors I saw in California took insurance. Also, you >could actually go see them when you were sick. They weren't cheap, but >the level of care I received was very high. When I actually had >insurance, I looked for doctors here that don't take insurance, but >couldn't find any. Karen, have you considered moving to Greenville? I have considered moving there. It is a very pleasant community. And now that East TN is rapidly turning into South Texas (re population, markets, mercados,etc.), you might be very comfortable here. Perhaps we can all move there - well, there are a couple of us who cannot do that, I know - Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 08:18:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8EIr6q004803 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:18:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 58DC51E6002E; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:14:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2706B1E60029 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:14:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D8143@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 9:06:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14230445 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:06:55 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8Dutt01186 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:56:55 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA8DuE3W005374 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:56:14 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:56:55 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: mcedness Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I have decided not to seek card-carrying membership status in the middle class, the middle classed, or the upper class. I am not currently poor. I will eventually live in a state of . So what am I? An aspirant? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 08:19:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8EJl6q004811 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:19:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D682B1E60030; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:14:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A92AD1E6002D for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:14:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A39D07@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 9:07:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14230748 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:07:50 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8E7nt02033 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:07:49 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA8E7HVs005351 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 06:07:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FACF867.7090903@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 08:06:31 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77710@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <3FAC588C.56CC5097@maynor.net> <368760577.20031107210527@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > On Friday, November 07, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >>I can imagine having a lower income than is >>comfortable, but I can't imagine "running out of money." >> > > You really do live in a protected environment! > > >>As you said in an earlier posting, most retired people live on the >>interest of their investments, leaving the principal intact. >> > > Do 'most' people really live this way? I thought this was an ideal. That's how my MIL lived. She really didn't have huge investments -- just under $100,000. She lived off her dividends, CD's, and her Sears pension. She wasn't jetting around the world (although she did take a few trips abroad when she was in better health), but she had everything she needed/wanted. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 08:23:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8ENN6q004846 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:23:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D32DB1E6002D; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:18:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A35301E60029 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:18:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D8128@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 9:11:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14230804 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:11:25 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8EBPt02195 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:11:25 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108141120.VCBW20018.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:11:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3FACF989.1FBEB9@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 08:11:21 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield wrote: > You mean YOU can't imagine YOURSELF running out of money, or you can't > imagine it in general? I hope it's the former and not the latter. I can imagine that somebody not eligible for social security could run out of money. And I realize that there are such people. As long as ss continues (which of course is a question in itself), ss recipients will keep having money trickling in. It might not be enough to survive on -- i.e., they might run out of money on the first day of every month. But I thought we were talking about running out of money in the sense that there is no more money coming in ever -- as in the well is totally dry. The ss recipient who runs out of money on Nov. 1 will get another little trickle on Dec. 1 (or whatever the exact date is -- I can't remember). > retired people have no investments. My parents aren't retired yet but they > have no investments and no IRAs and no 401(k)s. I'm very worried about that, > as Dad's 68 and Mom is 63. My parents lived totally on social security after Daddy retired. Daddy's company had no pension plan, and things like IRAs and 401ks weren't around, afaik. They had investments, but they didn't use them since they considered them emergency funding for extreme old age, not for retirement. Those investments got used when my mother ended up needing full-time care. As I think I mentioned, living at home with full-time care is extraordinarily expensive. She was paying $10,000 a month for sitters. That was much more than the nursing home care cost, though it also exceeded her ss income, so she continued using the investments even then. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 08:27:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8ERD6q004864 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:27:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AB0121E6002E; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:22:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7698A1E6002D for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:22:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D8148@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 9:15:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14230848 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:15:15 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8EFFt02415 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:15:15 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108141509.VDBG20018.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:15:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3FACFA6E.5B6FBC98@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 08:15:10 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7771D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > you'll have to pay for the nursing > home out-of-pocket until everything else is gone. Which makes sense. I think we've discussed before these ruses people have to make themselves eligible for medicaid re nursing homes when they in fact do have money to pay. I find that sleazy and immoral. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 08:28:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8ESg6q004870 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:28:42 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 397A61E6002D; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:23:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B8DB1E60029 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:23:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A39CF8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 9:16:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14230867 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:16:44 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8EGit02511 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:16:44 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108141638.VDJL20018.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:16:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3FACFAC7.5344E98E@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 08:16:39 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77710@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <3FAC588C.56CC5097@maynor.net> <368760577.20031107210527@WordWrite.com> <3FAC6818.1575E036@maynor.net> <1739435277.20031107215651@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > I was referring to not knowing anyone who has run out of money, not to > your own situation. No, I have not known anybody personally who has run out of money. > > I would assume so, but I don't really know. Most retired people I know > > locally who have talked about such things (and that is not a large > > number of people) live off of their pensions and social security and use > > their investment income for splurges or emergencies -- and certainly not > > the principal. > > Yeah, but they've probably all been to Europe, too. Yes, they have been. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 08:29:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8ETF6q004873 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:29:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 585DF1E6002D; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:24:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29CA21E60029 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:24:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A39CF9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 9:17:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14230880 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:17:17 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8EHHt02575 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:17:17 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA8EHCxu022000 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 06:17:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FACFA9E.1070800@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 08:15:58 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Topic Change References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77721@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The school needs a clear policy which includes ineligiblity to play and out of school suspension. Last year we kicked two kids off the National Honor Society for that type of nonsense. Football players were expelled last year for selling pot on campus. FWIW, we were State Champs last year. Phil Paxton wrote: > It turns out another football player was at the party but did not consume > alcohol so he was allowed to play. The news said the school didn't have a > formal method of discipline for dealing with students who drink, so they > haven't done anything to the other students at the party. There has been a > lot of stink over the years as to whether all students follow the same > policy or just athletes or students in extracurricular activities. And all > of those scenarios get bounced around in the various court systems. > > To be honest, I was surprised there were only two football players at that > party. > > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 08:34:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8EY86q004907 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:34:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2AF3E1E6002D; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:29:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBA5D1E60029 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:29:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A39D0B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 9:22:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14230919 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:22:10 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8EMAt02810 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:22:10 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108142204.VERS20018.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:22:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3FACFC0D.B6A340E6@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 08:22:05 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: <331903331866.331866331903@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3FAC5449.D3CB2E60@maynor.net> <003401c3a5b2$e08cee40$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > I'm much too tired to enter an argument on this subject, > but I must say I was positively amazed to read your > acceptance of and repetition of such a wide and stupid > generalization. Just as your earlier comments today on > "middle-classed characteristics" reveal southern sentiments > and your own personal programming, so do your comments > about Republicans. (Well, "almost all" Republicans) > So what's new? Southern sentiments? I don't think Paul Krugman is Southern. I'm pretty sure I read and blogged something by him on the subject of Republicans and racism in the past couple of days. Lemme look for it (as an example -- there could be many others, of course). ... Found it: "But the reliance of modern Republican political strategy on coded appeals to racism is no secret." "Mr. Dean wasn't suggesting that his party adopt the G.O.P. strategy of coded racial signals, and by and large African-Americans — my wife included — understand that. What he meant by his flag remark was that Democrats must make the case to working Americans of all colors that the right's elitist agenda isn't in their interest. And he's right." from: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/07/opinion/07KRUG.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 08:37:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8Eb46q004922 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:37:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AF76D1E6002E; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:32:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DBAC1E6002D for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:32:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D815E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 9:25:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14230978 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:25:06 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8EP6t02949 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:25:06 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hA8EP3vi015563 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:25:04 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:25:37 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <494573584.20031108082537@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: medical care In-Reply-To: References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77716@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <1641911189.20031108074200@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 08, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > Karen, have you considered moving to Greenville? No. I have not considered moving at all. Well, briefly. But I have a strong desire to be here and no desire to be anywhere else. > I have considered moving there. It is a very pleasant community. And > now that East TN is rapidly turning into South Texas (re population, > markets, mercados,etc.), you might be very comfortable here. Perhaps > we can all move there - well, there are a couple of us who cannot do > that, I know - The reason I love Austin so is the particular flavor of weirdness you find here. Karen, helping keep Austin weird From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 08:43:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8Ehs6q004957 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:43:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D60B71E60030; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:39:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7A8B1E6002F for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:39:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A39D1A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 9:31:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14231080 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:31:56 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8EVut03330 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:31:56 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA8EVtSf029786 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:31:56 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:32:29 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1910545399.20031108083229@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <3FACFAC7.5344E98E@maynor.net> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77710@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <3FAC588C.56CC5097@maynor.net> <368760577.20031107210527@WordWrite.com> <3FAC6818.1575E036@maynor.net> <1739435277.20031107215651@WordWrite.com> <3FACFAC7.5344E98E@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 08, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> I was referring to not knowing anyone who has run out of money, not to >> your own situation. > No, I have not known anybody personally who has run out of money. I thought Alyce was running out of money. My Mom came very close to it. I know other people who retired early but had to go back to work. Since I have no retirement any more, I will not have anything to run out of. >> > I would assume so, but I don't really know. Most retired people I know >> > locally who have talked about such things (and that is not a large >> > number of people) live off of their pensions and social security and use >> > their investment income for splurges or emergencies -- and certainly not >> > the principal. >> >> Yeah, but they've probably all been to Europe, too. > Yes, they have been. They are not your average retired person, then. Karen. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 08:47:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8Elo6q004968 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:47:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 09C7D1E6002D; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:43:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE6FF1E60029 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:42:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A39D25@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 9:35:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14231185 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:35:52 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8EZpt03679 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:35:51 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HO1EXN01.4UJ for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 07:29:47 -0700 From: "John Williams" To: English Language Discussion Group Message-ID: <3363e833a675.33a6753363e8@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 07:29:47 -0700 X-Mailer: Netscape Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en Subject: Re: Survivor X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: Natalie Maynor > They are telling cases for what is growing > more and more obvious to many people: Republican = Racist. Okay, you've got me. Yep, all Republicans are racist. But, it's not my fault. During my formative years my guiding lights were Orville Faubus, Lester Maddox, and George Wallace. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 08:57:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8Evh6q005005 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:57:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C1E7D1E60030; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:52:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA1F1E6002E for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:52:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A39D35@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 9:45:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14231184 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:45:45 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8EZjt03671 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:35:45 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA8EZ33W011182 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:35:03 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:35:44 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: medical care In-Reply-To: <494573584.20031108082537@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77716@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <1641911189.20031108074200@WordWrite.com> <494573584.20031108082537@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >The reason I love Austin so is the particular flavor of weirdness you >find here. > >Karen, >helping keep Austin weird Sounds like a calling to me. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 09:01:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8F1x6q005041 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:01:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 41BCA1E6002D; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:57:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 117ED1E60029 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:57:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A39D54@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 9:50:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14231546 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:50:01 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8Eo0t04783 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:50:01 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA8EnVVs027776 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 06:49:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FAD024C.1050308@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 08:48:44 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Census figures References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77719@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Who is going to spend a half mil? The school district? The school district certainly has to spend more than that to accommodate that kind of influx of students. They must be having classes in trailers and pods. What would *Larry* say? We have a local area that is growing on the same scale. You couldn't pay me to live in that mess. It's mostly land that was under a lot of water during the flood of '93. P.S. Larry is very hip right now. Lots of my AA boys are running around in Celtics #33 jerseys. They think it is somewhat miraculous that I met the man once *back in the day*. For real. Phil Paxton wrote: > The local news presented some newer numbers than I presented earlier for > justifying a special census. > > Fishers population is expected to be 50k and potentially 54k (or more), not > the 40k-43k I mentioned (30k was the number from 2000) - this is ungodly > compared to the 7.5k in 1988. > > The school corporation has increased the number of students by 47% (or 3'600 > new students). > > The number of new houses under construction have increased by 30% since > 2000. > > It turns out they're going to spend $500'000 and will receive at least > $3.5M/annually until 2010 (or the next special census). > > Moving to the countryside is starting to look better & better. > > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 09:03:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8F326q005057 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:03:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4740A1E60030; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:58:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17C9D1E60029 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:58:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A39D56@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 9:51:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14231570 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:50:57 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8Eovt04833 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:50:57 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hA8Eop2K000522 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:50:55 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:51:26 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <977310274.20031108085126@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: medical care In-Reply-To: References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77716@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <1641911189.20031108074200@WordWrite.com> <494573584.20031108082537@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 08, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >>The reason I love Austin so is the particular flavor of weirdness you >>find here. >> >>Karen, >>helping keep Austin weird > Sounds like a calling to me. I think it is. It's the only way I can explain how I feel about it. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 09:06:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8F6B6q005086 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:06:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 07F441E6002E; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:01:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C91491E60029 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:01:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D8198@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 9:54:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14231467 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:54:13 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8EiDt04400 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:44:13 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA8EhW3W012326 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:43:32 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:44:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor In-Reply-To: <3363e833a675.33a6753363e8@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Message-ID: References: <3363e833a675.33a6753363e8@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, John Williams wrote: > Okay, you've got me. Yep, all Republicans are racist. But, it's >not my fault. During my formative years my guiding lights were Orville >Faubus, Lester Maddox, and George Wallace. Speaking of Orville ... I met my first Republicans in Fayetteville, Ark. When I drove into Fayetteville for the first time Fall 1959, there were signs on all highways into F-ville saying "Entering Fayetteville/Leaving Arkansas" (because of Act X) - in Fayetteville, I knew 2 Republicans - no, 3 - I almost forgot the pre-med student whom I dated for a short time- he worked for the 2 drs. who were the other 2 Republicans. I always had the feeling that the 2 drs. were Republicans only because they thought that Arkansas desperately needed a 2-party system - which of course it got almost immediately. When I moved to Knoxville, I occasionally told people that I had known only 2 other people in my life (sorry about your omission, pre-med student) who admitted to being Republicans. That probably made me sound like a woman from Mars. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 09:23:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8FNn6q005315 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:23:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 568201E60031; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:17:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17C8C1E6002D for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:17:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A39D8B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:10:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14232070 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:10:03 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8FA2t06145 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:10:03 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA8FA12f031145 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 07:10:01 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA8FA0JC031115; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 07:10:00 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031108071123.00a31640@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 07:11:58 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:56 AM 11/8/2003 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >I have decided not to seek card-carrying membership status in the middle >class, the middle classed, or the upper class. I am not currently poor. I >will eventually live in a state of . So what am I? An aspirant? > >Bethany Why do you think you will eventually live in a state of poverty? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 09:34:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8FYE6q005402 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:34:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4E3351E6002E; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:29:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BA311E6002D for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:29:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A39DA6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:22:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14232370 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:22:14 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8FLLt07039 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:21:21 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA8FLKSf027677 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:21:21 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:21:55 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1132638490.20031108092155@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Survivor In-Reply-To: References: <3363e833a675.33a6753363e8@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 08, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > Speaking of Orville ... I met my first Republicans in Fayetteville, Ark. > When I drove into Fayetteville for the first time Fall 1959, there were > signs on all highways into F-ville saying "Entering Fayetteville/Leaving > Arkansas" (because of Act X) - in Fayetteville, Act X? Karen. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 09:48:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8Fm26q005497 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:48:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 10EEE1E60030; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:43:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D53941E6002D for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:43:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A39DB6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:36:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14232726 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:36:04 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8Fa3t08222 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:36:03 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA8Fa1e6018135 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:36:02 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000801c3a60d$ff5d5c00$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <331903331866.331866331903@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3FAC5449.D3CB2E60@maynor.net> <003401c3a5b2$e08cee40$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FACFC0D.B6A340E6@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Survivor Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:35:53 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Southern sentiments? I don't think Paul Krugman is Southern. I'm > pretty sure I read and blogged something by him on the subject of > Republicans and racism in the past couple of days. Lemme look for it > (as an example -- there could be many others, of course). > ... > Found it: > > "But the reliance of modern Republican political strategy on coded > appeals to racism is no secret." > > "Mr. Dean wasn't suggesting that his party adopt the G.O.P. strategy of > coded racial signals, and by and large African-Americans - my wife > included - understand that. What he meant by his flag remark was that > Democrats must make the case to working Americans of all colors that the > right's elitist agenda isn't in their interest. And he's right." > > from: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/07/opinion/07KRUG.html > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I wasn't commenting on Mr. Krugman's comments, but on yours. Let it go. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 10:02:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8G2k6q005607 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:02:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C16321E60034; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:57:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E79C1E60033 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:57:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A39E0E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:50:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14232949 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:50:47 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8Felt08898 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:40:47 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA8Fe43W022475 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:40:06 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:40:44 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031108071123.00a31640@uclink.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: References: <4.2.2.20031108071123.00a31640@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Betty wrote: >At 08:56 AM 11/8/2003 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >>I have decided not to seek card-carrying membership status in the middle >>class, the middle classed, or the upper class. I am not currently poor. I >>will eventually live in a state of . So what am I? An aspirant? >> >>Bethany > >Why do you think you will eventually live in a state of poverty? Because I will choose it. Poverty, not being poor. I don't think that I will ever actually enter an order - I am already probably too old - but there are other ways of living in community and . Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 10:04:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8G4M6q005630 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:04:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1A95B1E60035; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:59:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E06AA1E60034 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:59:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A39E14@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:52:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14232983 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:52:24 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8FgOt09054 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:42:24 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA8Ffh3W022816 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:41:43 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:42:23 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor In-Reply-To: <1132638490.20031108092155@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <3363e833a675.33a6753363e8@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <1132638490.20031108092155@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >Act X? It required all state employees to sign a loyalty oath. The S.Ct. eventually ruled it unconstitutional. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 10:08:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8G8D6q005671 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:08:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CC7A11E60032; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:03:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 995F41E60030 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:03:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A39E23@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:56:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14233523 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:56:14 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8FuEt10332 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:56:14 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA8FuDSf017139 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:56:14 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:56:47 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1562214231.20031108095647@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Survivor In-Reply-To: References: <3363e833a675.33a6753363e8@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <1132638490.20031108092155@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 08, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >>Act X? > It required all state employees to sign a loyalty oath. The S.Ct. > eventually ruled it unconstitutional. Ah. I remember reading about loyalty oaths. Karen. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 10:35:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8GZG6q005931 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:35:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A52A01E60037; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:28:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E5041E60035 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:28:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D82A7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:21:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14234487 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:21:26 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8GLQt12922 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:21:26 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108162121.SSXE1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:21:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAD1801.36C6BF56@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 10:21:22 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: medical care References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77716@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <1641911189.20031108074200@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Karen, have you considered moving to Greenville? I have considered moving > there. It is a very pleasant community. And now that East TN is rapidly > turning into South Texas (re population, markets, mercados,etc.), you > might be very comfortable here. Perhaps we can all move there - well, > there are a couple of us who cannot do that, I know - Greenville is very close to Erwin, that charming town I wrote about last summer -- the one where the only motel was a Super8, the only restuarant a -- I've forgotten what -- something quite unappealing, and the power grids covering the mountain. Erwin is where I spent the first night enroute to Acadiafest. I do not plan a second coming. I spent a night in Greenville on a later trip -- coming back over the mountains from W. Jefferson, NC. (I also had been through Greenville on my way to Erwin on that earlier trip.) Although I would certainly choose Greenville over Erwin and I might someday go back to Greenville in search of records of whether that county is where my bastard gg-grandfather met his wife, I did not feel any particular desire to spend much time there. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 10:36:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8Gaw6q005987 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:36:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 308531E6003C; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:32:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F240A1E60035 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:32:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A39E78@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:24:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14234620 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:24:59 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8GOwt13227 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:24:58 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108162453.STOW1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:24:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAD18D6.A3115EC3@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 10:24:54 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > I > will eventually live in a state of . So what am I? An aspirant? Sounds like it -- an aspirant, I mean. Why exactly do you plan to live in a state of ? You might have mentioned that earlier, but I don't remember reading it. Suddenly I'm thinking again about that man who recently gave money to MSU -- the one I said reminded me sort of of what BrP had said about his life's choices. Lemme see if it's online. ... Yes. It was this statement that I was remembering, I think: "'My needs are pretty simple,' he claims." from: http://tinyurl.com/u74f -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 10:41:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8Gfa6q006012 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:41:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E4F691E602A7; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:36:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A81871E6003E for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:36:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A39E96@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:29:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14234761 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:29:37 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8GTbt13553 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:29:37 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108162932.SUNI1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:29:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAD19EC.BCC71139@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 10:29:32 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: <3363e833a675.33a6753363e8@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > Okay, you've got me. Yep, all Republicans are racist. But, it's > not my fault. During my formative years my guiding lights were Orville > Faubus, Lester Maddox, and George Wallace. Earth to JMW -- come in, please -- we have moved now into the 21st century. Something I don't quite get is why some people seem to think it's to change political parties. I can see how it would be not nice to accept a bunch of help, financial and otherwise, from a party to get you elected and then immediately jump ship. But otherwise it strikes me as logical to change parties when either the party changes in such a way that it's not appropriate for your beliefs or when your beliefs change in such a way that you no longer fit in that party. (That kind of thing has been a topic here lately because of Amy Tuck, the Lt. Gov, and her change a few years ago to the Republican Party. I was happy when she changed parties since it meant one less time for me to vote Republican, which I would have done in this recent election if she had still been a Democrat.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 10:42:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8GgR6q006034 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:42:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D1E271E602A7; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:37:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EDC51E6003C for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:37:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A39EA3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:30:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14234774 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:30:28 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8GUSt13618 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:30:28 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108163023.SURR1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:30:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAD1A1F.672704C7@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 10:30:23 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77710@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <3FAC588C.56CC5097@maynor.net> <368760577.20031107210527@WordWrite.com> <3FAC6818.1575E036@maynor.net> <1739435277.20031107215651@WordWrite.com> <3FACFAC7.5344E98E@maynor.net> <1910545399.20031108083229@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > I thought Alyce was running out of money. I remember Alyce's worries about running out of water in the well, but I didn't remember about running out of money. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 10:48:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8GmI6q006113 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:48:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7B6B31E60045; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:43:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E0BA1E60044 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:43:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D82D2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:36:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14234965 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:36:19 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8GaJt13999 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:36:19 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA8GaGe6007685 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:36:17 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000a01c3a616$69d405e0$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Poverty Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:36:08 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hA8GmI6q006113 In my car yesterday I heard part of an interview on NPR and didn't get the name of the author, but his book teaches there are 3 ways to avoid growing up in poverty: Finish high school Don't have a baby out of wedlock Don't have a baby until after 20 I realize this has nothing to do with recent discussions here on poverty, but I thought it interesting. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 10:48:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8GmW6q006116 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:48:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AEC3E1E60045; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:43:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EF981E60044 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:43:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A39EBD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:36:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14235016 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:36:33 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8GaXt14078 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:36:33 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108163628.SWAX1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:36:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAD1B8C.1F59088E@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 10:36:28 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: <3363e833a675.33a6753363e8@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > signs on all highways into F-ville saying "Entering Fayetteville/Leaving > Arkansas" (because of Act X) - in Fayetteville, I knew 2 Republicans - What's Act X? Re political parties, I don't remember thinking about them very much in my younger years. I know that my parents never considered themselves affiliated with a particular party. The only time I remember having to register by party was in Florida, where people said (this was '65) that it was better to register as a Democrat since some of the primaries were quite important. Does Tennessee require registering by party, Bethany? I have been a registered voter twice there ('68-'69 and '74-'76), but I have no memory of registering by party. And in my various times to register in Mississippi, there was no party-affiliation involved. One thing I remember about that year in Memphis is that I couldn't vote in the presidential election because I hadn't lived in Tennessee long enough. Those residency requirements were really, really wrong. They might make some sense for local elections, but they were for national elections. I was glad that changed. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 10:50:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8GoN6q006129 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:50:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 155701E60045; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:45:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D90861E60044 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:45:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A39EB6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:38:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14235072 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:38:24 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8GcNt14197 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:38:23 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108163818.SWLI1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:38:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAD1BFB.AF7F6E7F@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 10:38:19 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: <331903331866.331866331903@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3FAC5449.D3CB2E60@maynor.net> <003401c3a5b2$e08cee40$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FACFC0D.B6A340E6@maynor.net> <000801c3a60d$ff5d5c00$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > I wasn't commenting on Mr. Krugman's comments, > but on yours. And I was asking why you thought they were . Paul Krugman might be Southern, I guess. I assume he lives in NY now, but I have no idea where he's from originally. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 10:51:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8Gpl6q006145 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:51:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 234801E60044; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:46:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8D81E602B2 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:46:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D82C5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:39:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14235122 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:39:43 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8Gdgt14283 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:39:42 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108163937.SWTD1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:39:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAD1C4A.3BE8B195@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 10:39:38 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: <3363e833a675.33a6753363e8@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <1132638490.20031108092155@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >Act X? > > It required all state employees to sign a loyalty oath. The S.Ct. > eventually ruled it unconstitutional. Loyalty to what? To the state? What exactly does that entail -- as in what would be something that might be ? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 11:03:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8H3r6q006258 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:03:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 94D7F1E60038; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:59:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 639601E60041 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:59:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A39EDB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:51:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14235412 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:51:54 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8Gpst15124 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:51:54 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108165148.TSOH1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:51:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAD1F25.DC59A19E@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 10:51:49 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Finally! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It took forever for me to find out where Paul Krugman is from. I found gazillions of sites about his career and where he had gone to school and found several that mentioned his birthdate, but where he was from remained a mystery. Finally I found on his own website that he grew up in the New York City suburbs: http://web.mit.edu/krugman/www/incidents.html (My quest to find out where he was from was not something all that important to me, but the frustration/mystery made it grow into a bit of trivia that I was determined to unearth.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 11:10:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8HA16q006284 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:10:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6E7741E60038; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:05:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A8AE1E60039 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:05:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A39EF6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:58:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14235717 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:58:02 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8Gw2t15979 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:58:02 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-192.gwi.net [216.195.150.192]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA8Gw0Gn035909 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:58:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031108115726.00b91eb0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 11:58:15 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <3FACF867.7090903@swbell.net> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77710@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <3FAC588C.56CC5097@maynor.net> <368760577.20031107210527@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > That's how my MIL lived. She really didn't have huge >investments -- just under $100,000. She lived off her >dividends, CD's, and her Sears pension. She wasn't jetting >around the world (although she did take a few trips abroad >when she was in better health), but she had everything she >needed/wanted. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman Did she own her own home? Did she have to spend time in a nursing home at the end? bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 11:13:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8HDh6q006296 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:13:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0F02C1E60041; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:08:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D07411E60038 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:08:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A39F0D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:01:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14235840 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:01:44 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8H1ht16325 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:01:43 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-192.gwi.net [216.195.150.192]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA8H1gAr062718 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:01:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031108115930.00ba0e58@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 12:01:57 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <3FACF989.1FBEB9@maynor.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >She was paying $10,000 a month for sitters. That was much more than the >nursing home care cost, >though it also exceeded her ss income, so she continued using the >investments even then. > -- Natalie And if she had lived another ten years perhaps she would have exhausted her investments. Then she would have "run out of money", the nursing home would have taken her monthly SS, and Medicaid would have picked up the rest of the nursing home bill. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 11:23:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8HN86q006350 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:23:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 81E831E60041; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:18:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F9F1E60039 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:18:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A39F16@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:11:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14236058 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:11:09 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8HB9t16984 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:11:09 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-192.gwi.net [216.195.150.192]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA8HB7Ar063453 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:11:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031108120955.00bae0d0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 12:11:22 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <3FAD1A1F.672704C7@maynor.net> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77710@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <3FAC588C.56CC5097@maynor.net> <368760577.20031107210527@WordWrite.com> <3FAC6818.1575E036@maynor.net> <1739435277.20031107215651@WordWrite.com> <3FACFAC7.5344E98E@maynor.net> <1910545399.20031108083229@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I remember Alyce's worries about running out of water in the well, but I >didn't remember about running out of money. > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I remember her saying that when she bought her huge house in the Hudson Valley she didn't think she would have to work. She thought she could pay her expenses with her savings. But then the county raised her property taxes so high that she had to go into book selling just to pay those taxes, to keep the kids in Germantown ill-educated. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 11:31:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8HVo6q006379 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:31:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 86EF21E60041; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:26:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 528841E60038 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:26:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A39F3E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:19:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14236349 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:19:51 -0500 Received: from mail41.fg.online.no (mail41-s.fg.online.no [148.122.161.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8HJot17752 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:19:51 -0500 Received: from espeno-latt.nb.no (ti211310a080-4620.bb.online.no [80.212.82.12]) by mail41.fg.online.no (8.9.3p2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA19684 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:19:49 +0100 (CET) X-no-archive: yes X-homepage: www.nb.no Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031108182055.024e7148@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 18:21:59 +0100 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "Espen S. Ore" Subject: Re: Re the Episcopal Church In-Reply-To: <20031107201840.95976.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031107201840.95976.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 21:18 07.11.2003, Lynne Weber skrev: >--- Paul Barfoot wrote: > > Another interpretation is that the scene word play > > with Peter's name. > >I have always felt this was undeniably "word play". >Does anyone have the Aramaic for the word rock? But wasn't he originally called Simon? And then he was called Rocky which was translated into the language used for writing things down - just like Messiah turned into Khristos? Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 11:32:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8HW36q006383 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:32:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CDE301E60045; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:27:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EFE31E60041 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:27:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A39F34@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:20:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14236353 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:19:54 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8HJst17758 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:19:54 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hA8HJo2K011774 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:19:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:20:25 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1191504992.20031108112025@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Poverty In-Reply-To: <000a01c3a616$69d405e0$e1cadece@0018079268> References: <000a01c3a616$69d405e0$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 08, 2003, Doris Markland wrote: > In my car yesterday I heard part of an interview > on NPR and didn't get the name of the author, > but his book teaches there are > 3 ways to avoid growing up in poverty: > Finish high school > Don't have a baby out of wedlock > Don't have a baby until after 20 > I realize this has nothing to do with recent > discussions here on poverty, but I thought > it interesting. I think it's stupid. The same way I think it's stupid when people talk about education being the key to a good income. Karen, well-educated and definitely poor From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 11:33:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8HXO6q006396 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:33:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0901E1E60045; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:28:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF13B1E60038 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:28:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A39F39@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:21:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14236426 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:21:25 -0500 Received: from mail41.fg.online.no (mail41-s.fg.online.no [148.122.161.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8HLOt17891 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:21:24 -0500 Received: from espeno-latt.nb.no (ti211310a080-4620.bb.online.no [80.212.82.12]) by mail41.fg.online.no (8.9.3p2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA20522 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:21:18 +0100 (CET) X-no-archive: yes X-homepage: www.nb.no Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031108182258.024e6eb8@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 18:23:29 +0100 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "Espen S. Ore" Subject: Re: Re the Episcopal Church In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776FC@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B776FC@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 21:27 07.11.2003, Phil Paxton skrev: > >From: Lynne Weber [mailto:lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] > >Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 3:19 PM > > >--- Paul Barfoot wrote: > >> Another interpretation is that the scene word play > >> with Peter's name. > > > >I have always felt this was undeniably "word play". > >Does anyone have the Aramaic for the word rock? > >I think the word Petra fits in here somehow. Yes, Greek was an important language in the eastern parts. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 11:51:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8HpK6q006593 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:51:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3A8DA1E60045; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:46:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0665C1E60041 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:46:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A39F5D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:39:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14236801 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:39:21 -0500 Received: from mail48.fg.online.no (mail48-s.fg.online.no [148.122.161.48]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8HdKt18989 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:39:20 -0500 Received: from espeno-latt.nb.no (ti211310a080-3741.bb.online.no [80.212.78.157]) by mail48.fg.online.no (8.9.3p2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA07155 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:39:14 +0100 (MET) X-no-archive: yes X-homepage: www.nb.no Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031108184104.024fa1b0@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 18:41:16 +0100 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "Espen S. Ore" Subject: Re: Re the Episcopal Church In-Reply-To: <200311072206.hA7M6nt29303@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200311072206.hA7M6nt29303@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 23:06 07.11.2003, Karen Kay skrev: >On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:59:29 -0800, Lynne Weber >wrote: > > >--- Paul Barfoot wrote: > >> and Kephas in Aramaic - they both mean "rock" > >> > >> BrP > > > > > >Thanks. Does Kephas have any linguistic offspring I > >would recognize? > >cephalic ?? Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 12:01:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8I1Q6q006723 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:01:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0BCFA1E60045; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:56:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0CC11E60041 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:56:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A39F6D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:49:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14236960 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:49:27 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8HnQt19699 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:49:26 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108174921.KMNC1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:49:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAD2CA2.A231713C@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 11:49:22 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031108115930.00ba0e58@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > And if she had lived another ten years perhaps she would have exhausted her > investments. Then she would have "run out of money", the nursing home > would have taken her monthly SS, and Medicaid would have picked up the rest > of the nursing home bill. She would have exhausted her investments long before another ten years. We're obviously not talking about the same thing when we say "run out of money." I don't find it at all hard to imagine people using up all of their investments. As long as the ss check keeps coming, though, I would not say a person has "run out of money." Ditto my pension check. It will keep coming for the rest of my life, so I will never "run out of money." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 12:03:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8I3R6q006732 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:03:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DF7AE1E602A7; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:58:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC7121E60046 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:58:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A39F63@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:51:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14237013 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:51:27 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8HpRt19840 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:51:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108175122.KMWP1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:51:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAD2D1A.C2745AB4@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 11:51:22 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77710@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <3FAC588C.56CC5097@maynor.net> <368760577.20031107210527@WordWrite.com> <3FAC6818.1575E036@maynor.net> <1739435277.20031107215651@WordWrite.com> <3FACFAC7.5344E98E@maynor.net> <1910545399.20031108083229@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031108120955.00bae0d0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > >I remember Alyce's worries about running out of water in the well, but I > >didn't remember about running out of money. > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > I remember her saying that when she bought her huge house in the Hudson > Valley she didn't think she would have to work. She thought she could pay > her expenses with her savings. But then the county raised her property > taxes so high that she had to go into book selling just to pay those > taxes, to keep the kids in Germantown ill-educated. As I said, I can understand somebody using up all his/her savings. If I had decided to quit work before the required number of years to get retirement pay and had planned to live on my savings, those savings would surely have run out, making me have to work again. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 12:25:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8IPO6q006866 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:25:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7FC6F1E602A9; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:20:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D5F51E602A7 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:20:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D83C7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 13:13:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14237478 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 13:13:19 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8IDJt21136 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 13:13:19 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hA8IDFvi003984 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:13:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:13:50 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1925369902.20031108121350@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Re the Episcopal Church In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.0.20031108184104.024fa1b0@localhost> References: <200311072206.hA7M6nt29303@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <6.0.0.22.0.20031108184104.024fa1b0@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 08, 2003, Espen S. Ore wrote: > At 23:06 07.11.2003, Karen Kay skrev: >>On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:59:29 -0800, Lynne Weber >>wrote: >> >> >--- Paul Barfoot wrote: >> >> and Kephas in Aramaic - they both mean "rock" >> >> >> >> BrP >> > >> > >> >Thanks. Does Kephas have any linguistic offspring I >> >would recognize? >> >>cephalic > ?? Do you think I'm propagating a folk etymology? That may be--I'm not an Indo-Europeanist. Karen. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 13:14:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8JEC6q007327 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 13:14:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A9EE51E602B1; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 13:09:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 791C91E602B0 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 13:09:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D842B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 14:02:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14238696 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 14:02:12 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f41.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8J2Ct24737 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 14:02:12 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:02:06 -0800 Received: from 149.160.22.98 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 08 Nov 2003 19:02:06 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.22.98] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Trent Lott Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 14:02:06 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2003 19:02:06.0464 (UTC) FILETIME=[CD981800:01C3A62A] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: John Williams >> Okay, I'll bite: What is it that I believe that is untrue? > >JMW Oh, my. "If they asked me I could write a book." Let's begin with me guessing what you might believe on a few subjects. Please indicate your agreement or disagreement with the following propositions, and we'll go from there. 1. Saddam Hussein had something to do with 9/11. 2. During the period leading up to the U.S. attack on iraq, Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction. 3. Iraq's weapons of mass destruction posed a threat to the U.S. 4. The Bush administration's foreign policy has made the world safer for the U.S. 5. The liberation of Iraq will lead to the spread of democratic rule in the Middle East. 6. Deregulating the power industry has reduced costs to consumers and led to increased efficiencies. 7. Raising the minimum wage has an adverse effect on the economy. 8. Banning smoking in bars and restaurants causes bars and restaurants to go out of business. 9. White males are at an economic disadvantage in the U.S. compared to women and minority males. _________________________________________________________________ Send a QuickGreet with MSN Messenger http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/cdp_games From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 14:41:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8Kfb6q008097 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 14:41:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 03C7D1E60055; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 14:36:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5C031E60053 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 14:36:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3A0CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:29:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14240987 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:29:36 -0500 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.99]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8KTat30411 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:29:36 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.60.378e539a (4320) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:29:26 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <60.378e539a.2cdeac26@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:29:26 EST Subject: Re: $25 per week To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/7/2003 7:53:28 PM, PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM writes: >Ann Borkin wrote: Sorry. I didn't fill in context. I need a cell phone for one week while I move my mother into Assisted Living, in Miami. One week only. I sincerely hope she isn't going to regret that. I was moved into a rehab/assisted living place while I was recovering from my busted hip, and hated it. Couldn't wait to go home, and do what I wanted to do. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 14:46:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8KkH6q008136 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 14:46:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3A0DA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:33:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14241106 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:33:53 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8KXrt30710 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:33:53 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108203348.UVKO1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:33:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAD532C.428AC495@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 14:33:48 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Yay! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU As much as I don't like winter, there is one thing I like. My lawnmower is now in hibernation. There are still plenty of leaves to fall, but I have nevertheless declared cutting season over. Meanwhile, after yard-play I came in and turned on the tv set briefly to see whether the football game was still going on. I had turned it on early in the first quarter when it was already 14-0 so turned it off again. It was indeed still on when I turned it on a few minutes ago -- and the stands appeared to be pretty much empty. Not surprising. I'm sure Alabama must be running their 5th string for it to be only 31-0 near the end of the 4th quarter. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 14:52:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8Kqb6q008209 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 14:52:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2AC5D1E601F7; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 14:47:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB84A1E60058 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 14:47:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3A103@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:40:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14241243 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:40:36 -0500 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8Keat31085 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:40:36 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.51.370b499c (4320) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:40:26 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <51.370b499c.2cdeaeba@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:40:26 EST Subject: Re: Trent Lott To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/7/2003 7:56:06 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >In Theo's mind? I don't know. I find her mind rather mysterious. > At least it's a working mind, mysterious or not, is beside the point isn't it? Of course if you don't understand it, it's not meant to be understood by anyone! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 14:54:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8KsM6q008223 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 14:54:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4CDAD1E60055; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 14:49:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1656A1E60058 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 14:49:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D857C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:42:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14241300 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:42:22 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8KgLt31222 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:42:21 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA8KgK2f021285 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:42:20 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA8KgJJC021273; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:42:19 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031108124356.00a66590@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 12:44:16 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Trent Lott In-Reply-To: <51.370b499c.2cdeaeba@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:40 PM 11/8/2003 -0500, Theo Groothof wrote: >In a message dated 11/7/2003 7:56:06 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: > > >In Theo's mind? I don't know. I find her mind rather mysterious. > > >At least it's a working mind, mysterious or not, is beside the point isn't >it? Of course if you don't understand it, it's not meant to be understood by >anyone! >Theo How is your grandson doing, Theo? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 15:03:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8L306q008285 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:03:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CA4A41E60055; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 14:58:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C6531E60043 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 14:58:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D8592@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:50:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14241522 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:50:59 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8Koxt31820 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:50:59 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108205054.NXDW1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:50:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAD572E.C35F1699@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 14:50:54 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Trent Lott References: <51.370b499c.2cdeaeba@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > At least it's a working mind, mysterious or not, is beside the point isn't > it? Of course if you don't understand it, it's not meant to be understood by > anyone! I don't understand how AOL is doing its magic to your e-mail. That is why I asked you to explain it. I'm eager to learn. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 15:06:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8L6b6q008326 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:06:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AD9F01E60058; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:01:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BD0C1E60050 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:01:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3A120@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:54:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14241583 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:54:36 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f110.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.110]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8Ksat32002 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:54:36 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:54:30 -0800 Received: from 149.160.22.98 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 08 Nov 2003 20:54:30 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.22.98] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: With winter coming Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 15:54:30 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2003 20:54:30.0685 (UTC) FILETIME=[81768CD0:01C3A63A] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3248455.stm _________________________________________________________________ Great deals on high-speed Internet access as low as $26.95. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 15:10:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8LAS6q008344 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:10:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2F4191E60058; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:05:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEE941E60055 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:05:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3A135@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:58:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14241748 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:58:28 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8KwRt32326 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:58:27 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA8KwOe6016115 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 14:58:26 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001001c3a63b$07ef2420$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <60.378e539a.2cdeac26@aol.com> Subject: Re: Re: $25 per week Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 14:58:15 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > In a message dated 11/7/2003 7:53:28 PM, PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM writes: > > >Ann Borkin wrote: > > Sorry. I didn't fill in context. I need a cell phone for > one week while I move my mother into Assisted Living, in Miami. One week > only. > > I sincerely hope she isn't going to regret that. I was moved into a > rehab/assisted living place while I was recovering from my busted hip, and hated it. > Couldn't wait to go home, and do what I wanted to do. > Theo My mother hated to make that move also, but it was her decision to do so because it made sense. She was older than you though, Theo, I think about 90 when she closed her apartment, sold most of her stuff and settled down in a very comfortable assisted living apt. It was a lovely building, the owners were nice, she made lots of friends among the ladies and they enjoyed their afternoon card games, etc. Turns out she was in the right place when her heart started giving real problems, and she was never sorry she made the move. We felt good about it too. I visited her often and spent a lot of time there with her in her last few years. - D. 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From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 15:10:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8LAW6q008347 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:10:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C1F7E1E60058; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:05:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93CE61E60055 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:05:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D85A9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:58:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14241752 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:58:31 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA8KwVt32333 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:58:31 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 08 Nov 2003 12:58:26 PST Message-ID: <20031108205826.36143.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:58:26 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Survivor To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3363e833a675.33a6753363e8@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- John Williams wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Natalie Maynor > > > They are telling cases for what is growing > > more and more obvious to many people: Republican > = Racist. > > Okay, you've got me. Yep, all Republicans are > racist. But, it's > not my fault. During my formative years my guiding > lights were Orville > Faubus, Lester Maddox, and George Wallace. Why have you been got? To begin, the statement Republican = Racist is irrational and clearly indefensible. To continue, if the only examplars of racism you have come across in your study of history are Southern - it has been a narrow historical education. It also strkes me that, like most other criticisms leveled by political parties against one another, "parroting" is one of the most pervasive; and the parrot seems strangely unaware of the line he squawks about. > > JMW __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 15:13:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8LDS6q008371 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:13:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D36761E60050; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:08:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4CD71E6004B for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:08:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D85BC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:01:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14242028 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:01:27 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8L1Rt32680 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:01:27 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA8L1Pe6021634 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:01:26 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001701c3a63b$73516020$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: With winter coming Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:01:15 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sounds good to me. - D. M. > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3248455.stm > > _________________________________________________________________ > Great deals on high-speed Internet access as low as $26.95. > https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 15:18:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8LIt6q008444 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:18:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 23B101E60050; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:14:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E955C1E6003D for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:14:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D85D5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:06:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14241632 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:06:54 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8Kust32110 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:56:54 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA8KuB3W009527 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:56:13 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:56:51 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor In-Reply-To: <3FAD1B8C.1F59088E@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3363e833a675.33a6753363e8@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3FAD1B8C.1F59088E@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >quite important. Does Tennessee require registering by party, Bethany? Nope. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 15:20:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8LK56q008458 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:20:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9230E1E60050; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:15:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 621891E6004B for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:15:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D85BA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:08:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14241721 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:08:04 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8Kw4t32272 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:58:04 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA8KvN3W009691 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:57:23 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:58:03 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor In-Reply-To: <3FAD1C4A.3BE8B195@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3363e833a675.33a6753363e8@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <1132638490.20031108092155@WordWrite.com> <3FAD1C4A.3BE8B195@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> It required all state employees to sign a loyalty oath. The S.Ct. >> eventually ruled it unconstitutional. > >Loyalty to what? To the state? What exactly does that entail -- as in >what would be something that might be ? I no longer remember the text of the oath - I had to sign it as a new TA at the UofA. To the US, as I recall. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 15:24:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8LOp6q008506 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:24:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2842F1E60056; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:19:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E97371E60050 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:19:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D85E8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:12:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14242092 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:12:50 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8L2ot00327 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:02:50 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA8L293W010420 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:02:09 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:02:50 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor In-Reply-To: <3FAD1C4A.3BE8B195@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3363e833a675.33a6753363e8@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <1132638490.20031108092155@WordWrite.com> <3FAD1C4A.3BE8B195@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Loyalty to what? To the state? What exactly does that entail -- as in >what would be something that might be ? Spying for a foreign country. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 15:25:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8LPl6q008510 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:25:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 47E9D1E60058; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:20:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 192051E6004B for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:20:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3A173@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:13:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14242105 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:13:47 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8L3kt00363 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:03:47 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA8L353W010565 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:03:05 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:03:46 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: football can be weird Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Neither TN nor Miami deserved to win today - but Miami insisted on giving us the win, so we took it. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 15:28:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8LS26q008553 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:28:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 629A01E60056; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:23:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31EE51E6004B for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:23:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3A18A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:16:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14242638 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:16:01 -0500 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.99]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8LG1t01642 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:16:01 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.a1.4050796b (4320) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:15:50 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:15:50 EST Subject: Re: Poverty To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/8/2003 10:36:46 AM, dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM writes: >3 ways to avoid growing up in poverty: > Finish high school > Don't have a baby out of wedlock > Don't have a baby until after 20 > >I realize this has nothing to do with recent >discussions here on poverty, but I thought >it interesting. > It certainly makes sense; and is true too. It doesn't mean that you become wealthy of course, but it may provide you with a job that pays enough to keep you and your family from going hungry. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 15:31:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8LVL6q008578 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:31:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B93BC1E60058; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:26:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B3731E60056 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:26:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D8603@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:19:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14242719 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:19:20 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA8LJKt01870 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:19:20 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 08 Nov 2003 13:19:15 PST Message-ID: <20031108211915.97058.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 13:19:15 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Re the Episcopal Church To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.0.20031108182055.024e7148@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Espen S. Ore" wrote: > But wasn't he originally called Simon? And then he > was called Rocky which > was translated into the language used for writing > things down - just like > Messiah turned into Khristos? Yes, he was called Simon, and, if memory serves, it was exactly at this point in the story that he became Peter. Jesus said that Simon could only have answered a question with the assistance of the Holy Ghost. Therefore, from that time forward, Simon would be known as Petra, the rock on which the church would be built. The "Rocky" part is new to me. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 15:39:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8LdT6q008652 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:39:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AE6E21E6005A; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:34:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DDB11E6003D for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:34:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3A19C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:27:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14242817 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:27:28 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA8LRSt02419 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:27:28 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 08 Nov 2003 13:27:23 PST Message-ID: <20031108212723.90561.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 13:27:23 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: middle-classed To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > > > How > >> much would I have to have > >> to be middle-classed? > > > > > >I have a gnawing, uncomfortable feeling that if the > >amount is specified, you will dredge it up somehow, > somewhere. > > It? > > Bethany The muchness, whatever it is. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 15:41:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8LfH6q008670 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:41:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A3C411E6005A; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:36:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 750471E6003D for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:36:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3A196@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:29:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14242881 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:29:16 -0500 Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (imo-r05.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8LTGt02541 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:29:16 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.10c.2bbe1cd7 (4320) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:29:08 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <10c.2bbe1cd7.2cdeba24@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:29:08 EST Subject: Re: middle-classed To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/6/2003 9:58:16 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: >> >> IIRC, Natalie said something about my apparently not having all the stuff >> that people usually have. > Natalie says a lot of stuff, and "I" ignore most of it. I suggest you do the same! ;-} Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 15:43:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8Lh76q008677 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:43:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 38F271E602B4; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:38:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06C5E1E6005E for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:38:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D85F3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:31:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14242925 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:30:59 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA8LUxt02661 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:30:59 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 08 Nov 2003 13:30:54 PST Message-ID: <20031108213054.98342.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 13:30:54 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Topic Change To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77723@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Phil Paxton wrote: > The news hasn't been very forthcoming about the > status of the > fireman-parent. I suspect this is to let the > student's death situation to > run its course (that sounds rather trite, I realize) > and move forward after > that. A MADD representative said she'd reserve > comment until after the > official tox screening, which is usually stated to > take two or three weeks. > I sometimes wonder if that's not to allow situations > to cool down whereas if > they did it quickly, it would keep fanning the > flames. The Fire Chief has > already been interviewed in almost any way you can > imagine - especially > given the fact we're in sweeps[1] (if it bleeds, it > leads). His comments > have generally been along the lines of, "well, we've > never really had any > problems with him before" spoken in a tone like > you'd expect from a zoo > keeper commenting on a bear. Well, when they make news again, let us know. and I explained that the last time > someone p%ssed him off at > an accident scene, the cops handcuffed him to the > ambulance's steering wheel > and that he taught me everything he knew. They were > gone before the cops > got to the scene. I was literally telling the truth > as what p%ssed him off > was the fact a guy had been out getting bombed then > took his family out for > a drive and parked his car under the back end of a > semi sitting at a red > light out on the highway. He was untouched, his > wife (easily capable of > being "Miss " faced years of > plastic surgery to look > human, and the two kids were turned into maracas > (sp?) (they weren't > strapped in). My buddy walked up, figured out what > happened, dragged the > guy out, and was going to play judge, jury, and > executioner until two cops > helped me drag him away. Sometimes, the temptation is monumental. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 15:44:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8LiO6q008683 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:44:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 22C2A1E602B4; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:39:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9CCD1E6005E for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:39:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3A19D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:32:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14242973 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:32:24 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8LWNt02803 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:32:23 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108213218.VJEC1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:32:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAD60E3.AB39EF28@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 15:32:19 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: With winter coming References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen wrote: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3248455.stm Something else to thank my mother for. I had hot chocolate for breakfast every morning of my life until I left for college and made myself learn to drink coffee. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 15:45:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8LjS6q008689 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:45:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5BA261E6003D; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:40:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DA971E6005A for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:40:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3A1AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:33:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14242980 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:33:27 -0500 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8LXRt02835 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:33:27 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.2f.413eb05a (4320) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:33:13 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <2f.413eb05a.2cdebb19@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:33:13 EST Subject: Re: reading and remembering To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/7/2003 4:39:53 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >> Don't forget--Theo is a computer expert, so she knows more about how >this >> works than we do. > I've never claimed to be an expert, and never will. You can make all the snide remarks you want; I ignore them anyway. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 15:45:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8Ljf6q008697 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:45:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4155A1E6005B; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:40:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 136CE1E6005A for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:40:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3A1B9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:33:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14242984 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:33:40 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8LXdt02841 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:33:39 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108213334.VJMM1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:33:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAD612F.7E873366@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 15:33:35 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: <3363e833a675.33a6753363e8@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3FAD1B8C.1F59088E@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >quite important. Does Tennessee require registering by party, Bethany? > > Nope. Now that I think about it, I might not ever have registered in Memphis. I lived there for only fourteen months, and by the time I satisfied the residency requirement to be a registered voter, I would have been about to move away. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 15:48:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8Lm46q008706 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:48:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 548551E6005B; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:43:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 232F01E60058 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:43:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3A1A2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:36:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14243032 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:36:03 -0500 Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8La3t03021 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:36:03 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.23.375009c4 (4320) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:35:53 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@AOL.COM Message-ID: <23.375009c4.2cdebbb8@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:35:52 EST Subject: Re: Trent Lott To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/7/2003 4:20:53 PM, williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU writes: > Well, now, that's pretty much immaterial, isn't it. No matter how >preposterous anything is, if Theo believes something to be true it is, >reality be damned. QED. > I don't care what you believe. All I reported is what was on the news. I agree that your news is pretty preposterous at times, but that's not my problem, is it? Theo PS I also never lie, for those of you who have accused me of it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 15:50:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8Lo16q008744 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:50:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 341661E6005B; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:45:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 012871E6005A for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:45:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3A1B1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:37:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14243049 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:38:00 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8Lbxt03162 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:37:59 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108213754.VKNV1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:37:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAD6233.4A8D859C@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 15:37:55 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: $25 per week References: <60.378e539a.2cdeac26@aol.com> <001001c3a63b$07ef2420$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > I think about 90 when she closed her apartment, > sold most of her stuff and settled > down in a very comfortable assisted living apt. > It was a lovely building, the owners were nice, > she made lots of friends among the ladies and > they enjoyed their afternoon card games, etc. I think it will be a nice way to live in my older age. My worry is trying to time it -- to decide at what point I want to move to some place like The Orchard in Jackson. If you wait too late, they won't take you -- as in you have to start as one of their independent-living residents in order to be able to move on to the full-fledged nursing-home care or the alzheimers unit. You could lead a normal life while living in the independent-living part except that it automatically includes one meal a day -- your choice of lunch or dinner. I don't think I'll be ready to lock myself into that kind of life for a while. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 15:50:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8Lon6q008750 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:50:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CB9B41E6005A; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:45:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CA971E60058 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:45:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3A1B3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:38:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14243076 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:38:48 -0500 Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8Lcmt03229 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:38:48 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.179.21b906fe (4320) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:38:37 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <179.21b906fe.2cdebc5d@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:38:37 EST Subject: Re: Trent Lott To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/7/2003 6:07:08 PM, PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM writes: >From: Marty Rosen [mailto:meeberphobia@HOTMAIL.COM] Well, now, that's pretty much immaterial, isn't it. No matter how preposterous anything is, if Theo believes something to be true it is, reality be damned. QED. From: PPaxton@ESCIENT It may be true that you see pink elephants but it doesn't mean they are real. You don't understand. If HE thinks they are, they are, reality be damned! ;-} Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 15:52:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8LqV6q008789 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:52:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2D3151E6005B; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:47:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EECA31E6005A for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:47:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D862C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:40:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14242902 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:40:29 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8LUTt02626 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:30:29 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA8LTm3W015459 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:29:48 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:30:29 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <20031108212723.90561.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031108212723.90561.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >> > How >> >> much would I have to have >> >> to be middle-classed? >> > >> > >> >I have a gnawing, uncomfortable feeling that if the >> >amount is specified, you will dredge it up somehow, >> somewhere. >> >> It? >The muchness, whatever it is. O. Probably. I have found it for the IRS and in order to buy Maria, etc. - so you're probably right! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 15:53:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8Lr36q008794 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:53:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 932DC1E6005A; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:48:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65BBC1E60058 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:48:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3A1CB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:41:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14243195 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:41:02 -0500 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8Lf2t03509 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:41:02 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.34.417f2a13 (4320) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:40:52 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <34.417f2a13.2cdebce4@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:40:52 EST Subject: Re: Trent Lott To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/7/2003 6:45:20 PM, cwv@GWI.NET writes: >Well, have you ever seen both of them at the same party? I don't party much anymore, but he'd be welcome in my house anytime. Does that answer your question? Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 15:53:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8LrM6q008799 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:53:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D2ECF1E6005A; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:48:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A39031E6003D for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:48:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3A1BF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:41:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14242938 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:41:07 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8LV7t02690 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:31:07 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA8LUQ3W015571 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:30:26 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:31:07 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <10c.2bbe1cd7.2cdeba24@aol.com> Message-ID: References: <10c.2bbe1cd7.2cdeba24@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Theo Groothof wrote: >Natalie says a lot of stuff, and "I" ignore most of it. I suggest you do the >same! ;-} Ignore Natalie! Never! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 15:53:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8LrM6q008802 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:53:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1D5DD1E6005A; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:48:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E158A1E6003D for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:48:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3A1CC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:41:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14243207 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:41:21 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8LfLt03557 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:41:21 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108214116.VLIZ1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:41:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAD62FC.CC078D88@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 15:41:16 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <10c.2bbe1cd7.2cdeba24@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > >"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >> > >> IIRC, Natalie said something about my apparently not having all the stuff > >> that people usually have. > > > Natalie says a lot of stuff, and "I" ignore most of it. I suggest you do the > same! ;-} Thank you for producing that sentence again! I hadn't bothered to hunt for it in the archives, but it makes clear that Bethany was imagining things. I never said anything about Bethany (or anybody else) in relation to having or not having "all the stuff that people usually have." For one thing, I have no idea what all that would be. It's not something I've ever really thought about. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 15:54:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8Lsj6q008807 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:54:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 32D521E60058; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:49:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0352D1E6003D for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:49:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3A1CE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:42:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14243226 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:42:44 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8Lght03624 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:42:43 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108214238.VLRK1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:42:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAD634F.394B3C37@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 15:42:39 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: reading and remembering References: <2f.413eb05a.2cdebb19@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > > In a message dated 11/7/2003 4:39:53 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: > > >> Don't forget--Theo is a computer expert, so she knows more about how > >this > >> works than we do. > > > I've never claimed to be an expert, and never will. You can make all the > snide remarks you want; I ignore them anyway. Exactly who is the "you" you're addressing here? You have my name at the top, but you are quoting Karen. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 16:00:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8M016q008837 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:00:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ED8981E602B4; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:55:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE3BF1E6005E for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:55:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3A1DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:48:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14243053 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:48:00 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8Lc0t03167 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:38:00 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA8LbI3W016786 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:37:18 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:37:59 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Trent Lott In-Reply-To: <23.375009c4.2cdebbb8@aol.com> Message-ID: References: <23.375009c4.2cdebbb8@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Theo Groothof wrote: >PS I also never lie, for those of you who have accused me of it. I have long suspected that you were not fully human, Theo - this confirms it. I do not know ANYONE (human) who does not lie. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 16:03:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8M3r6q008915 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:03:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 474E41E6005C; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:57:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 131A81E6005B for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:57:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3A1E1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:50:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14243421 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:50:45 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8Loit04339 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:50:44 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA8Lohoe002612 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:50:44 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FAD64EC.4080808@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 15:49:32 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77710@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <3FAC588C.56CC5097@maynor.net> <368760577.20031107210527@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031108115726.00b91eb0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: >> That's how my MIL lived. She really didn't have huge >> investments -- just under $100,000. She lived off her >> dividends, CD's, and her Sears pension. She wasn't jetting >> around the world (although she did take a few trips abroad >> when she was in better health), but she had everything she >> needed/wanted. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman > > > Did she own her own home? Did she have to spend time in a nursing home at > the end? No and no. She was in assisted living at the end, which she could afford. She did own a house, but sold it a long, long time ago. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 16:11:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8MB26q008984 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:11:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9CA9E1E6005B; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:06:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C2141E6005A for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:06:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3A1ED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:59:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14243758 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:59:01 -0500 Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8Lx1t04901 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:59:01 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.ad.35b9a646 (4320) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:58:51 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:58:51 EST Subject: Re: middle-classed To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/7/2003 7:53:56 PM, PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM writes: >but I'd go nuts living with just one or two > >>newspapers. I used to read a lot of papers, but I can't handle the format; turn the pages with one working arm. Fortunately I can still read books, magazines, or I'd go nuts too. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 16:12:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8MCI6q008988 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:12:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1F41A1E60058; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:07:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E61921E6003D for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:07:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D865C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:00:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14243977 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:00:15 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8M0Ft05067 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:00:15 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-192.gwi.net [216.195.150.192]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA8M0CGp060597; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:00:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031108165935.00b5ac70@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 17:00:11 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Survivor In-Reply-To: <20031108205826.36143.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> References: <3363e833a675.33a6753363e8@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:58 PM 11/8/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >It also strkes me that, like most other criticisms >leveled by political parties against one another, >"parroting" is one of the most pervasive; and the >parrot seems strangely unaware of the line he squawks >about. ...that's our John... cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 16:22:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8MM76q009142 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:22:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 93A271E6005B; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:17:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D3261E6005A for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:17:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3A294@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:10:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14245031 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:10:06 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8MA6t06068 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:10:06 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA8MA5Sd009018 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:10:05 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:10:37 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1626073433.20031108161037@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Poverty In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 08, 2003, Theo Groothof wrote: > In a message dated 11/8/2003 10:36:46 AM, dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM writes: >>3 ways to avoid growing up in poverty: >> Finish high school >> Don't have a baby out of wedlock >> Don't have a baby until after 20 >> >>I realize this has nothing to do with recent >>discussions here on poverty, but I thought >>it interesting. >> > It certainly makes sense; and is true too. > It doesn't mean that you become wealthy of course, but it may provide you > with a job that pays enough to keep you and your family from going hungry. Or it may not. But in any case, I think the *best* way to avoid growing up in poverty is to make sure you're born into a family that isn't poor. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 16:26:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8MQR6q009165 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:26:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4F4521E6005E; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:21:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 219C41E6005D for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:21:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3A2A1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:14:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14245161 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:14:26 -0500 Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (imo-r05.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8MEQt06389 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:14:26 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.9b.40500be7 (4320) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:14:16 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <9b.40500be7.2cdec4b8@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:14:16 EST Subject: Re: Trent Lott To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/8/2003 2:42:28 PM, bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU writes: >How is your grandson doing, Theo? He's doing fine last time I heard from him. Thanks for asking. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 16:27:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8MRn6q009186 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:27:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DA2BC1E6005E; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:22:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC3211E6005D for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:22:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3A2B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:15:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14245210 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:15:48 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8MFmt06500 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:15:48 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA8MFmse021261 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:15:48 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:16:20 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <765268028.20031108161620@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: reading and remembering In-Reply-To: <2f.413eb05a.2cdebb19@aol.com> References: <2f.413eb05a.2cdebb19@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 08, 2003, Theo Groothof wrote: > In a message dated 11/7/2003 4:39:53 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >>> Don't forget--Theo is a computer expert, so she knows more about how >>this >>> works than we do. >> > I've never claimed to be an expert, and never will. You can make all the > snide remarks you want; I ignore them anyway. You may ignore Natalie, but I said what you attributed to her above. Karen. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 16:30:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8MUV6q009194 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:30:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7F09C1E6005D; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:25:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 418391E60058 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:25:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3A2B1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:18:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14245301 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:18:30 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8MIUt06693 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:18:30 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hA8MIPvg011132 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:18:28 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:18:57 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <128641276.20031108161857@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: reading and remembering In-Reply-To: <2f.413eb05a.2cdebb19@aol.com> References: <2f.413eb05a.2cdebb19@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 08, 2003, Theo Groothof wrote: >>> Don't forget--Theo is a computer expert, so she knows more about how >>this >>> works than we do. >> > I've never claimed to be an expert, and never will. Surely I'm not the only one who remembers Theo claiming to be a computer expert? Karen. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 16:38:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8McX6q009242 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:38:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 653C01E60060; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:33:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33C301E6005E for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:33:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3A2D2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:26:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14245594 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:26:32 -0500 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8MQWt07388 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:26:32 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.13.2491d067 (4320) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:26:21 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <13.2491d067.2cdec78c@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:26:20 EST Subject: Re: Trent Lott To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/8/2003 2:51:18 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: > >I don't understand how AOL is doing its magic to your e-mail. That is why I asked you to explain it. I'm eager to learn. > How can I possibly know what AOL is doing with my e-mail? All I said was that it had mixed up my quote with some other one. If it doesn't sound believable to you; I'll have you know that I don't lie, or make up stories. As a former reporter, lies and fairy tales were never accepted in that field. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 16:43:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8MhZ6q009285 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:43:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 28AAF1E602B7; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:38:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC8291E60060 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:38:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3A2E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:31:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14245739 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:31:34 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8MVXt07803 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:31:33 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA8MVXse000682 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:31:33 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:32:05 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1866217478.20031108163205@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Trent Lott In-Reply-To: <13.2491d067.2cdec78c@aol.com> References: <13.2491d067.2cdec78c@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 08, 2003, Theo Groothof wrote: > In a message dated 11/8/2003 2:51:18 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >> >>I don't understand how AOL is doing its magic to your e-mail. That is why I > asked you to explain it. I'm eager to learn. >> > How can I possibly know what AOL is doing with my e-mail? > All I said was that it had mixed up my quote with some other one. > If it doesn't sound believable to you; I'll have you know that I don't lie, > or make up stories. As a former reporter, lies and fairy tales were never > accepted in that field. > Theo YaY, you got the quote right! Karen. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 16:44:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8MiN6q009307 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:44:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2E27C1E602B8; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:39:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0067F1E602B7 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:39:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3A2F3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:32:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14245377 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:32:17 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA8MMGt07079 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:22:16 -0500 Received: (qmail 42427 invoked by uid 1003); 8 Nov 2003 22:22:15 -0000 Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:22:15 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Trent Lott Message-ID: <20031108222215.GA40097@words-l.org> References: <23.375009c4.2cdebbb8@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 04:37:59PM -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Theo Groothof wrote: > > >PS I also never lie, for those of you who have accused me of it. > > I have long suspected that you were not fully human, Theo - this confirms > it. I do not know ANYONE (human) who does not lie. Huh, you do know Theo, don't you? You are a liar. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 16:45:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8Mjd6q009328 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:45:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2EE581E60065; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:40:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 009C41E60061 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:40:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3A316@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:33:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14245989 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:33:37 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8MXbt08284 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:33:37 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108223332.OXAL1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:33:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAD6F3D.EA01D91D@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 16:33:33 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: reading and remembering References: <2f.413eb05a.2cdebb19@aol.com> <128641276.20031108161857@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Surely I'm not the only one who remembers Theo claiming to be a > computer expert? I remember it. I don't remember the exact context -- something about having worked with computers. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 16:46:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8MkL6q009332 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:46:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AD6B61E60065; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:41:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 804BA1E60060 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:41:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D8727@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:34:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14246012 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:34:20 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8MYKt08357 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:34:20 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108223414.OXFG1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:34:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAD6F67.37DA815A@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 16:34:15 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Trent Lott References: <23.375009c4.2cdebbb8@aol.com> <20031108222215.GA40097@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 04:37:59PM -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > > On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Theo Groothof wrote: > > > > >PS I also never lie, for those of you who have accused me of it. > > > > I have long suspected that you were not fully human, Theo - this confirms > > it. I do not know ANYONE (human) who does not lie. > > Huh, you do know Theo, don't you? > > You are a liar. Pay attention, DMH. Bethany has concluded that Theo is not human. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 16:47:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8Mlq6q009338 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:47:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8219F1E60060; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:42:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 543321E6005E for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:42:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3A2FE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:35:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14246041 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:35:51 -0500 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8MZpt08453 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:35:51 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.51.370b49ef (4320) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:35:41 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <51.370b49ef.2cdec9bd@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:35:41 EST Subject: Re: Trent Lott To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/8/2003 3:48:19 PM, dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes: >I have long suspected that you were not fully human, Theo - this confirms >it. I do not know ANYONE (human) who does not lie. > >Bethany > You must have been aquatinted with the wrong kind of people then. I see no reason for it, and refuse to spend my time on useless activities, so I guess you've met the FIRST truthful one! Congratulations! ;-} Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 16:49:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8Mnu6q009341 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:49:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0C56F1E6005E; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:45:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE4951E6005B for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:45:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3A31B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:37:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14246074 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:37:54 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8Mbst08581 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:37:54 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108223749.OYDS1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:37:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAD703E.26BCED2F@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 16:37:50 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Trent Lott References: <13.2491d067.2cdec78c@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > >I don't understand how AOL is doing its magic to your e-mail. That is why I > asked you to explain it. I'm eager to learn. > > > How can I possibly know what AOL is doing with my e-mail? > All I said was that it had mixed up my quote with some other one. > If it doesn't sound believable to you; I'll have you know that I don't lie, > or make up stories. If I thought you were lying, then I wouldn't have asked for an explanation. Does AOL mix up the quotations after you hit send? Does it not allow you to see the mixing up? I'm curious. > As a former reporter, lies and fairy tales were never > accepted in that field. Lies and fairy tales were a former reporter? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 16:52:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8MqZ6q009373 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:52:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E5BDE1E60060; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:47:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B81311E6005B for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:47:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3A30F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:40:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14245719 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:40:33 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA8MUWt07743 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:30:32 -0500 Received: (qmail 46057 invoked by uid 1003); 8 Nov 2003 22:30:31 -0000 Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:30:31 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Trent Lott Message-ID: <20031108223030.GB40097@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sorry, this strikes me as unfair. I suggest we shift our focus closer to our in-house areas of expertise, such as universal truths about the effects of Islam, the art of the murder investigation, or the nuances of politics in the Arab peninsula. On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 02:02:06PM -0500, Marty Rosen wrote: > >From: John Williams > >> Okay, I'll bite: What is it that I believe that is untrue? > > > >JMW > > Oh, my. "If they asked me I could write a book." > > Let's begin with me guessing what you might believe on a few subjects. > Please indicate your agreement or disagreement with the following > propositions, and we'll go from there. > > 1. Saddam Hussein had something to do with 9/11. > 2. During the period leading up to the U.S. attack on iraq, Iraq possessed > weapons of mass destruction. > 3. Iraq's weapons of mass destruction posed a threat to the U.S. > 4. The Bush administration's foreign policy has made the world safer for the > U.S. > 5. The liberation of Iraq will lead to the spread of democratic rule in the > Middle East. > 6. Deregulating the power industry has reduced costs to consumers and led to > increased efficiencies. > 7. Raising the minimum wage has an adverse effect on the economy. > 8. Banning smoking in bars and restaurants causes bars and restaurants to go > out of business. > 9. White males are at an economic disadvantage in the U.S. compared to women > and minority males. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 16:54:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8MsS6q009392 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:54:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9EF811E602B4; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:49:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CAA11E60263 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:49:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3A336@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:42:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14246300 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:42:27 -0500 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8MgRt09055 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:42:27 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.19e.1c809c84 (4320) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:42:16 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <19e.1c809c84.2cdecb48@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:42:16 EST Subject: Re: reading and remembering To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/8/2003 3:42:57 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >Exactly who is the "you" you're addressing here? You have my name at the top, but you are quoting Karen. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > Another one of AOL's mysteries? I cannot explain it that's for sure. But of course I'll be accused of making things up, won't I? Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 16:56:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8Mua6q009414 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:56:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C6D701E60061; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:51:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 970861E60060 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:51:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3A31D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:44:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14246331 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:44:34 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8MiYt09183 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:44:34 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA8MiWk0008339 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 14:44:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FAD7189.3080806@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 16:43:21 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: reading and remembering References: <2f.413eb05a.2cdebb19@aol.com> <128641276.20031108161857@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > On Saturday, November 08, 2003, Theo Groothof wrote: > >>>>Don't forget--Theo is a computer expert, so she knows more about how >>>> >>>this >>> >>>>works than we do. >>>> >>I've never claimed to be an expert, and never will. >> > > Surely I'm not the only one who remembers Theo claiming to be a > computer expert? Nope. Or the time she said she can't turn her computer off because she'll lose everything in memory. I distinctly remember saying a little prayer of thanks at that moment as the reason her computer goes kaput all the time became clear. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 16:56:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8Mut6q009419 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:56:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5E80F1E60060; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:52:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FE291E6005B for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:52:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3A32C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:44:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14246341 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:44:54 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8Mirt09212 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:44:53 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA8MirSd004615 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:44:53 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:45:25 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1069922742.20031108164525@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: reading and remembering In-Reply-To: <19e.1c809c84.2cdecb48@aol.com> References: <19e.1c809c84.2cdecb48@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 08, 2003, Theo Groothof wrote: > In a message dated 11/8/2003 3:42:57 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >>Exactly who is the "you" you're addressing here? You have my name at the > top, but you are quoting Karen. >> >>-- >> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) >> > Another one of AOL's mysteries? I cannot explain it that's for sure. But of > course I'll be accused of making things up, won't I? I think you are being accused of misquoting, not of making things up. Karen. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 16:57:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8Mvr6q009440 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:57:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C2F961E60060; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:52:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954ED1E6005E for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:52:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3A32E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:45:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14246367 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:45:51 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8Mjpt09309 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:45:51 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA8Mjpse009112 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:45:51 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:46:23 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1843985159.20031108164623@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: reading and remembering In-Reply-To: <3FAD7189.3080806@swbell.net> References: <2f.413eb05a.2cdebb19@aol.com> <128641276.20031108161857@WordWrite.com> <3FAD7189.3080806@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 08, 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> On Saturday, November 08, 2003, Theo Groothof wrote: >> >>>>>Don't forget--Theo is a computer expert, so she knows more about how >>>>> >>>>this >>>> >>>>>works than we do. >>>>> >>>I've never claimed to be an expert, and never will. >>> >> >> Surely I'm not the only one who remembers Theo claiming to be a >> computer expert? > Nope. Or the time she said she can't turn her computer off > because she'll lose everything in memory. I distinctly > remember saying a little prayer of thanks at that moment as > the reason her computer goes kaput all the time became clear. LOL. Karen. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 17:01:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8N1E6q009503 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:01:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EB2731E60060; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:56:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD11B1E6005E for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:56:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3A352@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:49:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14246562 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:49:12 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8MnCt09639 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:49:12 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA8MnBk0010497 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 14:49:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FAD72A0.1030806@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 16:48:00 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: <3363e833a675.33a6753363e8@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <1132638490.20031108092155@WordWrite.com> <3FAD1C4A.3BE8B195@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >>>It required all state employees to sign a loyalty oath. The S.Ct. >>>eventually ruled it unconstitutional. >>> >>Loyalty to what? To the state? What exactly does that entail -- as in >>what would be something that might be ? >> > > I no longer remember the text of the oath - I had to sign it as a new TA > at the UofA. To the US, as I recall. Somebody from the barn where Ana and I ride is moving to Kentucky. They left to haul the horses up late this afternoon. She's getting outside board somewhere for $150/month for two horses, which I think is a great deal. I told her you were the person to find if they want to hunt the baby when he gets big enough! Ana and I are going to have hot cinnamon rolls for part of our dinner. Today was grey and cold and we were at the barn for 5 or 6 hours. Ana rode bareback for the first time (she thought it was cool). I didn't get a lesson -- just took the mare out to mess around for awhile after doing a bunch of stalls. It was good. We went for a lovely gallop. Haven't done that in at least a decade. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 17:04:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8N4J6q009535 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:04:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E56BC1E60060; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:59:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B338B1E6005E for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:59:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3A355@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:52:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14246728 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:52:17 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8MqHt09930 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:52:17 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108225212.MSRZ1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:52:12 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAD739D.E96E0DE1@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 16:52:13 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: reading and remembering References: <19e.1c809c84.2cdecb48@aol.com> <1069922742.20031108164525@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > On Saturday, November 08, 2003, Theo Groothof wrote: > > In a message dated 11/8/2003 3:42:57 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: > > >>Exactly who is the "you" you're addressing here? You have my name at the > > top, but you are quoting Karen. > >> > >>-- > >> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > >> > > Another one of AOL's mysteries? I cannot explain it that's for sure. But of > > course I'll be accused of making things up, won't I? > > I think you are being accused of misquoting, not of making things up. I wasn't really accusing her of misquoting. If you count the >'s, you see that my name didn't go with that quotation. She left the quotation unattributed. But I was confused by why she had included my name. That's why I was asking for clarification of whether she was addressing me with the "you" or was addressing you since they were your words, though she hadn't given you credit for them. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 17:08:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8N8G6q009560 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:08:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6F8471E60061; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:03:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A63B1E60060 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:03:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D8792@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:56:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14246845 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:56:15 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8MuEt10144 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:56:14 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA8MuDoe007534 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:56:14 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FAD7446.9040009@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 16:55:02 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: $25 per week References: <60.378e539a.2cdeac26@aol.com> <001001c3a63b$07ef2420$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: >>In a message dated 11/7/2003 7:53:28 PM, PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM writes: >> >> >>>Ann Borkin wrote: >>> >> Sorry. I didn't fill in context. I need a cell phone for >> one week while I move my mother into Assisted Living, in Miami. One >> > week > >>only. >> >>I sincerely hope she isn't going to regret that. I was moved into a >>rehab/assisted living place while I was recovering from my busted hip, >> > and hated it. > >>Couldn't wait to go home, and do what I wanted to do. >>Theo >> > > My mother hated to make that move also, but > it was her decision to do so because it made > sense. She was older than you though, Theo, > I think about 90 when she closed her apartment, > sold most of her stuff and settled > down in a very comfortable assisted living apt. > It was a lovely building, the owners were nice, > she made lots of friends among the ladies and > they enjoyed their afternoon card games, etc. > Turns out she was in the right place when her > heart started giving real problems, and she was > never sorry she made the move. We felt good > about it too. I visited her often and spent a lot > of time there with her in her last few years. My MIL liked her assisted living situation, too. She made friends, played bingo, and they took her anywhere she needed to go. She was also a short walk up the street from us, so she got to play with her granddaughter nearly every day, and I could send lots and lots of homecooked goodies to her. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 17:11:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8NBP6q009606 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:11:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 14DF91E6005E; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:06:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA9921E6005B for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:06:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D877E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:59:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14246980 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:59:23 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8MxNt10404 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:59:23 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA8MxMoe009126 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:59:23 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FAD7503.8010503@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 16:58:11 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Trent Lott References: <13.2491d067.2cdec78c@aol.com> <3FAD703E.26BCED2F@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Theo Groothof wrote: > >>>I don't understand how AOL is doing its magic to your e-mail. That is why I >>> >>asked you to explain it. I'm eager to learn. >> >>How can I possibly know what AOL is doing with my e-mail? >>All I said was that it had mixed up my quote with some other one. >>If it doesn't sound believable to you; I'll have you know that I don't lie, >>or make up stories. >> > > If I thought you were lying, then I wouldn't have asked for an > explanation. Does AOL mix up the quotations after you hit send? Does > it not allow you to see the mixing up? I'm curious. > > >>As a former reporter, lies and fairy tales were never >> accepted in that field. >> > > Lies and fairy tales were a former reporter? Lies and fairy tales *was* a former reporter (if I read her grammar correctly). -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 17:27:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA8NR56q009745 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:27:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 478D11E6005E; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:22:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15C8A1E6005B for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:22:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D87C8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:15:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14247679 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:15:04 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA8NF3t11724 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:15:03 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 08 Nov 2003 15:14:58 PST Message-ID: <20031108231458.23105.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:14:58 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Trent Lott To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FAD703E.26BCED2F@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: Theo wrote:> > As a former reporter, lies and fairy tales were > never > > accepted in that field. > > Lies and fairy tales were a former reporter? > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Obviously, grammar has sustained its honored place in the field of journalism. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 18:10:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA90At6q010030 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:10:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8B8DE1E60067; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:06:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 594E11E60066 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:06:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3A416@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:58:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14248473 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:58:46 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8Nmkt13943 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:48:46 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA8Nm33W004941 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:48:04 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:48:44 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor In-Reply-To: <3FAD72A0.1030806@swbell.net> Message-ID: References: <3363e833a675.33a6753363e8@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <1132638490.20031108092155@WordWrite.com> <3FAD1C4A.3BE8B195@maynor.net> <3FAD72A0.1030806@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > Somebody from the barn where Ana and I ride is moving to >Kentucky. They left to haul the horses up late this >afternoon. She's getting outside board somewhere for >$150/month for two horses, which I think is a great deal. I >told her you were the person to find if they want to hunt >the baby when he gets big enough! Right! >our dinner. Today was grey and cold and we were at the barn >for 5 or 6 hours. Ana rode bareback for the first time (she >thought it was cool). I didn't get a lesson -- just took >the mare out to mess around for awhile after doing a bunch >of stalls. It was good. We went for a lovely gallop. >Haven't done that in at least a decade. Cool! I think I am about a week away from starting to ride again,. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 18:12:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA90Ca6q010035 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:12:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8139A1E60066; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:07:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F82A1E60064 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:07:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3A422@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:00:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14248509 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:00:34 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8NoYt14074 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:50:34 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA8Nnr3W005200 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:49:53 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:50:34 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Trent Lott In-Reply-To: <51.370b49ef.2cdec9bd@aol.com> Message-ID: References: <51.370b49ef.2cdec9bd@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Theo Groothof wrote: >You must have been aquatinted with the wrong kind of people then. I don't think so. I see no >reason for it, and refuse to spend my time on useless activities, so I guess >you've met the FIRST truthful one! There are many, many reasons for it. I hope that you will eventually discover them. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 18:18:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA90Ir6q010076 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:18:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BB76C1E60066; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:13:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DA0E1E60059 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:13:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3A436@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:06:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14248820 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:06:51 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA906pt15325 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:06:51 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 08 Nov 2003 16:06:46 PST Message-ID: <20031109000646.49346.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:06:46 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Trent Lott To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Theo Groothof wrote: > > >You must have been aquatinted with the wrong kind > of people then. > > I don't think so. > > I see no >reason for it, and refuse to spend my > time on useless > activities, so I guess >you've met the FIRST > truthful one! > > There are many, many reasons for it. I hope that you > will eventually > discover them. > > Bethany I was not aware you had acquired an aqua glow. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 18:21:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA90L66q010107 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:21:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F14741E6006F; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:16:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C35761E60068 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:16:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3A423@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:09:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14248647 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:09:04 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA8Nx4t14690 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:59:04 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA8NwM3W006388 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:58:23 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:59:04 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <3FAD18D6.A3115EC3@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FAD18D6.A3115EC3@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Sounds like it -- an aspirant, I mean. Why exactly do you plan to live >in a state of ? You might have mentioned that earlier, but I >don't remember reading it. I'm not certain that I can explain it. I feel a calling to live in community eventually. Or near community. What do I mean by near community? A model was offered to me the last time I was at the Abbey of Gethsemani. I spent some time with a female hermit who lives on the Abbey property. She attends daily Mass, but little else with the community. I have thought of asking to live on Abbey property - not as a hermit, though. I would want to attend daily offices, use the library, etc. Or I could live near the Abbey. There are also orders of which one may be an associate member - live on the premises but live under fewer strictures than those chosen by full members. The next few years will be in part a period of discernment about this - I want to get to retirement with a clear plan, even if it is not a complete plan. As part of the process, I may spend a summer at someplace like Creighton University - possibly Summer 2005 - in their Spiritual Direction program. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 18:27:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA90Rq6q010132 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:27:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DC8E01E60182; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:22:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A96521E6006F for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:22:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3A441@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:15:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14248994 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:15:50 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA90Fot15928 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:15:50 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-192.gwi.net [216.195.150.192]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA90FmAr004944 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:15:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031108191503.00bcf630@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 19:16:05 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: $25 per week In-Reply-To: <3FAD6233.4A8D859C@maynor.net> References: <60.378e539a.2cdeac26@aol.com> <001001c3a63b$07ef2420$e1cadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I think it will be a nice way to live in my older age. My worry is >trying to time it -- to decide at what point I want to move to some >place like The Orchard in Jackson. -- Natalie Just pick a number. I've decided I'll go when I'm 80. If the market isn't too good for selling my house at that point, I'll fudge by a year or two or three. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 18:29:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA90TN6q010146 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:29:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3DCF61E60068; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:24:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AEA31E60066 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:24:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3A467@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:17:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14249189 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:17:21 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA90HKt16151 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:17:20 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA90HIe6020855 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:17:19 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000401c3a656$d0221a40$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3FAD18D6.A3115EC3@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: mcedness Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:17:08 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I'm not certain that I can explain it. I feel a calling to live in > community eventually. Or near community. > > Bethany How does this work? Would you be sharing in the work that keeps the place going? In the expense? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 18:32:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA90W56q010173 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:32:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 01B941E6006E; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:27:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C66401E60068 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:27:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3A471@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:20:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14249282 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:20:03 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA90K3t16467 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:20:03 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-192.gwi.net [216.195.150.192]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA90K2Ar005514 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:20:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031108191957.00bbe7b8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 19:20:18 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: reading and remembering In-Reply-To: <128641276.20031108161857@WordWrite.com> References: <2f.413eb05a.2cdebb19@aol.com> <2f.413eb05a.2cdebb19@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I've never claimed to be an expert, and never will. > >Surely I'm not the only one who remembers Theo claiming to be a >computer expert? --Karen. No you are not. I remember her claim. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 18:37:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA90bc6q010194 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:37:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 472BA1E6006E; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:32:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1497A1E60068 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:32:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3A46E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:25:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14249534 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:25:36 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA90PZt17336 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:25:35 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-192.gwi.net [216.195.150.192]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA90PYAr006366 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:25:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031108192114.00bbffb8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 19:25:50 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Trent Lott In-Reply-To: <13.2491d067.2cdec78c@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >How can I possibly know what AOL is doing with my e-mail? Catch a clue, Theo. It's not AOL. It is you. What is happening is that you often comment on what someone said by replying to a message in which someone else has already commented on what that person said. For example, I wrote something and Espen commented on it. When you read Espen's comment, you evidently were motivated to also comment on what I had said. So you responded to the message that Espen wrote. Thus, AOL properly listed Espen as the person you were responding to. You then edited the message and erased what Espen said, leaving only what I said. But the initial line, inserted by AOL, remains. That makes it look like Espen is the one who said what, in fact, I said. This is not AOL's fault. It is your fault in editing incorrectly. You should have also edited out the top reference to Espen when you edited out his words. >All I said was that it had mixed up my quote with some other one. >If it doesn't sound believable to you; I'll have you know that I don't lie, >or make up stories. --Theo There is a difference between lying and being mistaken. You are often mistaken. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 18:39:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA90ds6q010203 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:39:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 58F831E6006E; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:35:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 258221E60068 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:35:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3A48A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:27:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14249562 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:27:52 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA90Rpt17464 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:27:51 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA90RHVs012695 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:27:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FAD89B9.4060202@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 18:26:33 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: <3363e833a675.33a6753363e8@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <1132638490.20031108092155@WordWrite.com> <3FAD1C4A.3BE8B195@maynor.net> <3FAD72A0.1030806@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > hours. Ana rode bareback for the first time (she >thought it was cool). > I didn't get a lesson -- just took >the mare out to mess around for awhile > after doing a bunch >of stalls. It was good. We went for a lovely > gallop. >Haven't done that in at least a decade. > > Cool! I think I am about a week away from starting to ride again,. Who has been riding Maria? Or has she been on vacation? -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 18:43:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA90hV6q010212 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:43:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 950BC1E60182; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:38:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EBE11E60068 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:38:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3A49E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:31:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14249751 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:31:29 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA90VTt17862 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:31:29 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA90VQe6015485 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:31:27 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000801c3a658$c9b63400$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Eclipse Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:31:16 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hA90hV6q010212 You can still see it . . . if you hurry. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 18:43:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA90hm6q010216 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:43:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BFEC71E6023A; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:38:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 868711E6006F for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:38:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3A489@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:31:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14249300 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:31:46 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA90Lkt16635 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:21:46 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA90L33W010483 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:21:05 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:21:44 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Trent Lott In-Reply-To: <20031109000646.49346.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031109000646.49346.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >I was not aware you had acquired an aqua glow. Huh? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 18:44:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA90ie6q010222 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:44:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 260CF1E6006F; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:39:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC8DA1E60068 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:39:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D88AE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:32:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14249814 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:32:37 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA90Wbt18042 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:32:37 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA90WZe6017500 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:32:36 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000d01c3a658$f2a15ca0$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <60.378e539a.2cdeac26@aol.com> <001001c3a63b$07ef2420$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031108191503.00bcf630@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: Re: $25 per week Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:32:24 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >I think it will be a nice way to live in my older age. My worry is > >trying to time it -- to decide at what point I want to move to some > >place like The Orchard in Jackson. -- Natalie > > Just pick a number. I've decided I'll go when I'm 80. If the market isn't > too good for selling my house at that point, I'll fudge by a year or two or > three. > > > bonnie You're kidding. Those places are for the aged. You are not aged at 80. Not by a long shot. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 18:46:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA90k96q010251 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:46:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2D4741E6006F; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:41:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F326B1E6006E for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:41:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3A48B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:34:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14249828 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:34:07 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA90Y6t18112 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:34:06 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA90Y4e6020058 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:34:05 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001601c3a659$27bb6ac0$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031108192114.00bbffb8@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: Re: Trent Lott Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:33:54 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >How can I possibly know what AOL is doing with my e-mail? > > Catch a clue, Theo. It's not AOL. It is you. What is happening is that > you often comment on what someone said by replying to a message in which > someone else has already commented on what that person said. For example, > I wrote something and Espen commented on it. When you read Espen's > comment, you evidently were motivated to also comment on what I had > said. So you responded to the message that Espen wrote. Thus, AOL > properly listed Espen as the person you were responding to. You then > edited the message and erased what Espen said, leaving only what I > said. But the initial line, inserted by AOL, remains. That makes it look > like Espen is the one who said what, in fact, I said. This is not AOL's > fault. It is your fault in editing incorrectly. You should have also > edited out the top reference to Espen when you edited out his words. > > >All I said was that it had mixed up my quote with some other one. > >If it doesn't sound believable to you; I'll have you know that I don't lie, > >or make up stories. --Theo > > There is a difference between lying and being mistaken. You are often > mistaken. > > > bonnie Bonnie . . you always help to keep things clear. Nice. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 18:47:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA90l26q010267 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:47:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 01A891E60182; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:42:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6B821E6006F for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:42:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3A48D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:35:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14249518 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:35:00 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA90P0t17304 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:25:00 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA90OJ3W011046 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:24:19 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:25:00 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <000401c3a656$d0221a40$e1cadece@0018079268> Message-ID: References: <3FAD18D6.A3115EC3@maynor.net> <000401c3a656$d0221a40$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Doris Markland wrote: >> I'm not certain that I can explain it. I feel a calling to live in >> community eventually. Or near community. > >> Bethany > >How does this work? Would you be sharing >in the work that keeps the place going? In the >expense? Well, it works differently in different places, of course. Typically, one gives control of one's assets in exchange for sharing in the assets of the community. At Gethsemani, the monks make cheese, bourbon fudge, and fruitcake. I would not work with the monks. But I would do something to further the aim of the place. But if I merely lived nearby, I would retain control of my assets - and be responsible for taking care of myself. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 18:50:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA90o36q010329 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:50:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 124E31E6006C; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:44:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D87031E60068 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:44:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3A49D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:36:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14249868 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:36:56 -0500 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA90aut18250 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:36:56 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.5a.24455449 (4320) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:36:49 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <5a.24455449.2cdee621@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:36:49 EST Subject: Re: reading and remembering To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/8/2003 4:34:08 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >I remember it. I don't remember the exact context -- something about having worked with computers. > Does working with them make you an expert? Knock it off Natalie Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 18:50:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA90o36q010333 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:50:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DBA081E6006E; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:44:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADED21E60068 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:44:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3A4AA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:37:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14249885 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:37:45 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA90bjt18324 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:37:45 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109003740.UQZK1852.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:37:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAD8C54.CCA3FCF9@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 18:37:40 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness References: <3FAD18D6.A3115EC3@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >Sounds like it -- an aspirant, I mean. Why exactly do you plan to live > >in a state of ? You might have mentioned that earlier, but I > >don't remember reading it. > > I'm not certain that I can explain it. I feel a calling to live in > community eventually. Or near community. What do I mean by near community? I'm not exactly sure what "in community" means. I take it that is a religious term meaning part of a religious group and that it involves giving up your possessions (since your answer to my question about poverty was about living in community). Is that right? I've always thought I would enjoy communal living of some kind, as long as I had a certain amount of privacy within the community. I adored the years in Florida when I had a tiny apartment in a complex full of friends with whom I communed every night. I also loved my summer in Chicago, living in a single room in a dorm and partying with my fellow seminarians (as in an NEH seminar in dialectology). When I get older, I will move to a retirement/assisted-living community. But none of that has anything to do with poverty or religion. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 18:51:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA90px6q010359 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:51:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 042691E6006E; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:47:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1BF61E60068 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:47:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3A499@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:39:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14249973 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:39:56 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA90dut18430 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:39:56 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109003951.URMX1852.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:39:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAD8CD7.1C05FC79@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 18:39:51 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: $25 per week References: <60.378e539a.2cdeac26@aol.com> <001001c3a63b$07ef2420$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031108191503.00bcf630@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > >I think it will be a nice way to live in my older age. My worry is > >trying to time it -- to decide at what point I want to move to some > >place like The Orchard in Jackson. -- Natalie > > Just pick a number. I've decided I'll go when I'm 80. If the market isn't > too good for selling my house at that point, I'll fudge by a year or two or > three. I think it would be hard to pick a number at this point. Maybe when I get into my seventies, I'll have a better feel for . Your "I'm" and "my" suggest that Clyde is not going to be part of this situation. Are you assuming he will be dead when you're eighty? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 18:52:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA90qN6q010362 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:52:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CF4741E6006C; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:47:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ACEC1E60068 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:47:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3A4B4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:40:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14249978 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:40:21 -0500 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA90eLt18471 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:40:21 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1de.12647d43 (4320) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:40:08 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1de.12647d43.2cdee6e8@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:40:08 EST Subject: Re: $25 per week To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/8/2003 4:56:58 PM, rouvalis@SWBELL.NET writes: > My MIL liked her assisted living situation, too. She made >friends, played bingo, and they took her anywhere she needed >to go. She was also a short walk up the street from us, so >she got to play with her granddaughter nearly every day, and >I could send lots and lots of homecooked goodies to her. > But your MIL could walk so she COULD go out. And the activities offered: bingo, cards, TV etc., and eat are exactly the things I HATE!Now I guess that I don't sound "human", but it's too late for me to change..... Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 18:54:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA90sx6q010388 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:54:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 541E01E60182; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:50:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 268CA1E6006F for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:50:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3A4A9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:42:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14249999 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:42:57 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA90gut18564 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:42:56 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109004251.USDQ1852.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:42:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAD8D8C.287C0BEA@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 18:42:52 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: $25 per week References: <60.378e539a.2cdeac26@aol.com> <001001c3a63b$07ef2420$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031108191503.00bcf630@pop.gwi.net> <000d01c3a658$f2a15ca0$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > You're kidding. Those places are for the > aged. You are not aged at 80. Not by a > long shot. Some people are. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 18:57:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA90vU6q010415 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:57:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 63E3B1E6006C; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:52:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34CC41E60068 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:52:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3A4C0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:45:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14250103 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:45:28 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA90jRt18809 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:45:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109004522.USPR1852.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:45:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAD8E23.6D04211F@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 18:45:23 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: reading and remembering References: <5a.24455449.2cdee621@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > >I remember it. I don't remember the exact context -- something about having > worked with computers. > > > Does working with them make you an expert? Knock it off Natalie Am I right to feel that Theo is ? I was simply answering Karen, saying that yes, I remembered that. Several other people have also said that they remember it. I certainly hope that, fair-minded, honest person that you are, you will also tell them to knock it off. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 18:58:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA90wB6q010418 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:58:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 497431E6006C; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:53:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BD161E60068 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:53:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3A4C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:46:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14250123 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:46:04 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA90k4t18891 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:46:04 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA90k3se021237 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:46:03 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:46:36 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <641178117.20031108184636@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: $25 per week In-Reply-To: <000d01c3a658$f2a15ca0$e1cadece@0018079268> References: <60.378e539a.2cdeac26@aol.com> <001001c3a63b$07ef2420$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031108191503.00bcf630@pop.gwi.net> <000d01c3a658$f2a15ca0$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 08, 2003, Doris Markland wrote: > You're kidding. Those places are for the > aged. You are not aged at 80. Not by a > long shot. I think you are confusing assisted living and nursing homes. Karen. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 18:59:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA90xK6q010421 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:59:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1A9F71E6006E; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:54:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E07891E6006C for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:54:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3A4B7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:47:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14249875 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:47:17 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA90bHt18302 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:37:17 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA90aZ3W012900 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:36:35 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:37:16 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor In-Reply-To: <3FAD89B9.4060202@swbell.net> Message-ID: References: <3363e833a675.33a6753363e8@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <1132638490.20031108092155@WordWrite.com> <3FAD1C4A.3BE8B195@maynor.net> <3FAD72A0.1030806@swbell.net> <3FAD89B9.4060202@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > Who has been riding Maria? Or has she been on vacation? David. And occasionally a young rider. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 18:59:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA90xm6q010424 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:59:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6B3E11E6006F; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:54:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CA971E6006C for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:54:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3A4BA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:47:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14250180 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:47:46 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA90ljt19083 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:47:45 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-192.gwi.net [216.195.150.192]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA90liAr009556 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:47:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031108194350.00bbb3a0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 19:48:00 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: $25 per week In-Reply-To: <000d01c3a658$f2a15ca0$e1cadece@0018079268> References: <60.378e539a.2cdeac26@aol.com> <001001c3a63b$07ef2420$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031108191503.00bcf630@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >You're kidding. Those places are for the >aged. You are not aged at 80. Not by a >long shot. - D. M. No, I'm not kidding. I'm only 58 and I already feel rather aged. I think of going to the place they just built here on the island at 80 because I wouldn't mind living in a smaller space with people my own age, getting my nightly meal, and have no worries about maintaining a house. Perhaps at age 80, I'd live in the independent apartments. Then at age 90 I could move into the assisted wing. Then at age 100 I could die. Here's the place they built: http://www.birchbayinfo.com/ bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 19:03:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA913a6q010473 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:03:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 813301E6006E; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:58:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A48C1E60068 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:58:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3A4D0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:51:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14250361 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:51:34 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f95.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.95]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA90pXt19299 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:51:34 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:51:28 -0800 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 00:51:28 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Trent Lott Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 19:51:28 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Nov 2003 00:51:28.0330 (UTC) FILETIME=[9BD702A0:01C3A65B] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU misattributed. I have no authorial relationship with the quoted material below. >From: Theo Groothof >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Trent Lott >Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:38:37 EST > >In a message dated 11/7/2003 6:07:08 PM, PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM writes: > > >From: Marty Rosen [mailto:meeberphobia@HOTMAIL.COM] > Well, now, that's pretty much immaterial, isn't it. No matter how >preposterous anything is, if Theo believes something to be true it is, >reality be >damned. QED. > >From: PPaxton@ESCIENT >It may be true that you see pink elephants but it doesn't mean they are >real. > >You don't understand. If HE thinks they are, they are, reality be damned! >;-} >Theo _________________________________________________________________ Crave some Miles Davis or Grateful Dead? Your old favorites are always playing on MSN Radio Plus. Trial month free! http://join.msn.com/?page=offers/premiumradio From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 19:05:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA91526q010499 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:05:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C77AB1E6006F; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:00:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 990221E6006E for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:00:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3A4D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:53:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14250417 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:53:00 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA90r0t19429 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:53:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109005254.UUEP1852.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:52:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAD8FE7.41E859C0@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 18:52:55 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: $25 per week References: <60.378e539a.2cdeac26@aol.com> <001001c3a63b$07ef2420$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031108191503.00bcf630@pop.gwi.net> <000d01c3a658$f2a15ca0$e1cadece@0018079268> <641178117.20031108184636@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > On Saturday, November 08, 2003, Doris Markland wrote: > > You're kidding. Those places are for the > > aged. You are not aged at 80. Not by a > > long shot. > > I think you are confusing assisted living and nursing homes. At places like The Orchard plenty of the residents are still driving and going about their lives in normal ways. It's just that they've decided to move to an apartment that offers amenities that will be increasingly helpful as they grow older -- things like house-cleaning, conveniences of on-the-premises banking, people close around, etc. Even the one meal a day might be considered a convenience. And when they reach the point of no longer wanting to drive, they can ride the van to go shopping or to church or whatever. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 19:12:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA91Ca6q010557 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:12:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 851901E6008D; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:07:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E9661E6006E for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:07:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3A4EF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:00:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14250303 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:00:34 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA90oYt19222 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:50:34 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA90nq3W014978 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:49:52 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:50:33 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <3FAD8C54.CCA3FCF9@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FAD18D6.A3115EC3@maynor.net> <3FAD8C54.CCA3FCF9@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I'm not exactly sure what "in community" means. I take it that is a >religious term meaning part of a religious group and that it involves >giving up your possessions (since your answer to my question about >poverty was about living in community). Is that right? Probably. But it could also be a community - one idea I have is to start such a community in Knoxville - using the Rule of Benedict as our pattern. For the Rule of Benedict, see: http://www.osb.org/gen/rule.html The Rule has been described as "... an epitome of Christianity, a learned and mysterious abridgement of all the doctrines of the Gospel, all the institutions of the Fathers, and all the counsels of perfection" (Bossuet, 1627-1704, Bp. of Meaux). Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 19:14:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA91EM6q010564 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:14:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3B93E1E60269; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:09:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B5691E6008D for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:09:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3A4E8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:02:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14250398 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:02:11 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA90qBt19384 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:52:11 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA90pT3W015172 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:51:29 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:52:11 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: $25 per week In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031108194350.00bbb3a0@pop.gwi.net> Message-ID: References: <60.378e539a.2cdeac26@aol.com> <001001c3a63b$07ef2420$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031108191503.00bcf630@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031108194350.00bbb3a0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, bonniev wrote: >No, I'm not kidding. I'm only 58 and I already feel rather aged. I think Bonnie, I did not realize that you are a mere child! Bethany, feeling very From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 19:16:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA91Gu6q010570 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:16:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CEC441E6018C; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:12:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E7FB1E60182 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:12:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3A4E5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:04:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14250693 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:04:53 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA914rt20348 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:04:53 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA914NVs011860 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:04:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FAD926C.50005@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 19:03:40 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: $25 per week References: <1de.12647d43.2cdee6e8@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > In a message dated 11/8/2003 4:56:58 PM, rouvalis@SWBELL.NET writes: > > >>My MIL liked her assisted living situation, too. She made >>friends, played bingo, and they took her anywhere she needed >>to go. She was also a short walk up the street from us, so >>she got to play with her granddaughter nearly every day, and >>I could send lots and lots of homecooked goodies to her. >> >> > But your MIL could walk so she COULD go out. And the activities offered: > bingo, cards, TV etc., and eat are exactly the things I HATE!Now I guess that I > don't sound "human", but it's too late for me to change..... > Theo Actually, she didn't walk well. She more or less "cruised" -- stepped from place to place where she could hold onto something. That's why she decided to leave Ohio and live near us. Anne could keep to herself all day if she wanted to, and she often wanted to. It's never too late to change. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 19:17:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA91HS6q010574 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:17:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3386F1E6018C; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:12:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05CE11E60182 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:12:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3A4F4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:05:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14250700 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:05:26 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA915Pt20389 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:05:25 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA915Le6015228 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:05:22 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <003d01c3a65d$867e4f60$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <60.378e539a.2cdeac26@aol.com> <001001c3a63b$07ef2420$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031108191503.00bcf630@pop.gwi.net> <000d01c3a658$f2a15ca0$e1cadece@0018079268> <641178117.20031108184636@WordWrite.com> Subject: Re: Re: $25 per week Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:05:11 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > On Saturday, November 08, 2003, Doris Markland wrote: > > You're kidding. Those places are for the > > aged. You are not aged at 80. Not by a > > long shot. > > I think you are confusing assisted living and nursing homes. > > Karen. No. I just would not think there'd be a need for giving up your home unless you have physical problems. But, as Natalie said, some may just want to. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 19:19:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA91Je6q010602 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:19:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 78BAA1E60182; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:14:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A4271E6008D for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:14:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3A4F5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:07:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14250710 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:07:38 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA917bt20468 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:07:37 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA9179Vs013176 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:07:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FAD9311.90107@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 19:06:25 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: reading and remembering References: <5a.24455449.2cdee621@aol.com> <3FAD8E23.6D04211F@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Theo Groothof wrote: > >>>I remember it. I don't remember the exact context -- something about having >>> >>worked with computers. >> >>Does working with them make you an expert? Knock it off Natalie >> > > Am I right to feel that Theo is ? I was simply answering > Karen, saying that yes, I remembered that. Several other people have > also said that they remember it. I certainly hope that, fair-minded, > honest person that you are, you will also tell them to knock it off. She's just treating you like family. You should feel good about that. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 19:22:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA91M06q010648 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:22:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C985A1E60182; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:17:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72B381E6008D for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:17:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D890A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:09:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14250758 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:09:40 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA919dt20537 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:09:40 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA9196Vs014073 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:09:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FAD9387.7010203@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 19:08:23 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness References: <3FAD18D6.A3115EC3@maynor.net> <3FAD8C54.CCA3FCF9@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >>>Sounds like it -- an aspirant, I mean. Why exactly do you plan to live >>>in a state of ? You might have mentioned that earlier, but I >>>don't remember reading it. >>> >>I'm not certain that I can explain it. I feel a calling to live in >>community eventually. Or near community. What do I mean by near community? >> > > I'm not exactly sure what "in community" means. I take it that is a > religious term meaning part of a religious group and that it involves > giving up your possessions (since your answer to my question about > poverty was about living in community). Is that right? > > I've always thought I would enjoy communal living of some kind, as long > as I had a certain amount of privacy within the community. I adored the > years in Florida when I had a tiny apartment in a complex full of > friends with whom I communed every night. I also loved my summer in > Chicago, living in a single room in a dorm and partying with my fellow > seminarians (as in an NEH seminar in dialectology). When I get older, I > will move to a retirement/assisted-living community. But none of that > has anything to do with poverty or religion. I'd excel at being a hermit. But it wouldn't have anything to do with having a religious vocation. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 19:54:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA91s76q010810 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:54:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2EC301E60182; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:49:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0EDB1E60068 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:49:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3A52E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:42:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14251368 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:42:04 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA91g4t22412 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:42:04 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA91g1e6024082 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:42:02 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000801c3a662$a5c0fd00$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: McJob Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:41:50 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hA91s76q010810 Did you read that Merriam Webster has added "McJob" to their dictionary and gives the meaning as low-paying dead-end work. McDonald's is H . O . T. . . - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 20:02:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA922w6q010870 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:02:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 883DB1E602B4; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:58:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58E391E60182 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:58:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3A539@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:50:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14251465 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:50:55 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA91ost23057 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:50:54 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA91oqse000209 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:50:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:51:25 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1736047458.20031108195125@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Survivor In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just watched my tape of the show. On Friday, November 07, 2003, Bookrat wrote: > At 6:02 PM -0800 11/6/03, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>I am soooo mad. > I accidentally read the above and worried all the way through that > it presaged Rupert's being voted off. I continue to like Rupert better and better each show. (I didn't like him the first show.) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 20:14:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA92E06q011022 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:14:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 792691E6008D; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:09:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F4F1E6006B for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:09:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D8949@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:01:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14251678 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:01:57 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA921ut23707 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:01:56 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hA921svg001394 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:01:54 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:02:27 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1233996230.20031108200227@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: $25 per week In-Reply-To: <3FAD8FE7.41E859C0@maynor.net> References: <60.378e539a.2cdeac26@aol.com> <001001c3a63b$07ef2420$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031108191503.00bcf630@pop.gwi.net> <000d01c3a658$f2a15ca0$e1cadece@0018079268> <641178117.20031108184636@WordWrite.com> <3FAD8FE7.41E859C0@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 08, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> On Saturday, November 08, 2003, Doris Markland wrote: >> > You're kidding. Those places are for the >> > aged. You are not aged at 80. Not by a >> > long shot. >> >> I think you are confusing assisted living and nursing homes. > At places like The Orchard plenty of the residents are still driving and > going about their lives in normal ways. It's just that they've decided > to move to an apartment that offers amenities that will be increasingly > helpful as they grow older -- things like house-cleaning, conveniences > of on-the-premises banking, people close around, etc. Even the one meal > a day might be considered a convenience. And when they reach the point > of no longer wanting to drive, they can ride the van to go shopping or > to church or whatever. A lot of people like communal dining. But it's not really communal. Some places make you sit in assigned seats, and other places permit it to be more natural. People develop cliques. My parents' retirement home offered all the things you mentioned above, but was not assisted living. The way the woman who ran the place explained it to me is that assisted living would offer more medical services on the premises. Retirement homes often have the requirement, for example, that you need to be able to walk to meals. If you can't walk to meals for 3 days in a row, they boot you over to the nursing home part of the facility. Assisted living could forestall something like that. It's unlikely that I'll have to worry about any of this--my lack of access to medical care is, I'm sure, having a negative impact on my life expectancy. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 20:16:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA92GX6q011035 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:16:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A7DCE1E6006B; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:11:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 776331E60068 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:11:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3A569@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:04:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14251779 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:04:30 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA924Ut23951 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:04:30 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hA924R2I006531 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:04:28 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:05:00 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1353854020.20031108200500@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: $25 per week In-Reply-To: <003d01c3a65d$867e4f60$e1cadece@0018079268> References: <60.378e539a.2cdeac26@aol.com> <001001c3a63b$07ef2420$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031108191503.00bcf630@pop.gwi.net> <000d01c3a658$f2a15ca0$e1cadece@0018079268> <641178117.20031108184636@WordWrite.com> <003d01c3a65d$867e4f60$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 08, 2003, Doris Markland wrote: > I just would not think there'd be a need for giving up your home > unless you have physical problems. But, as Natalie said, some may > just want to. My aunt did, after her husband died. Karen. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 20:22:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA92MT6q011088 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:22:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A9DBF1E6006B; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:17:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 783291E60062 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:17:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3A56C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:10:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14251831 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:10:26 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA92AQt24250 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:10:26 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 08 Nov 2003 18:10:20 PST Message-ID: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:10:20 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: mcedness To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > The next few years will be in part a period of > discernment about this - I > want to get to retirement with a clear plan, even if > it is not a complete > plan. As part of the process, I may spend a summer > at someplace like > Creighton University - possibly Summer 2005 - in > their Spiritual Direction > program. But is it the idea to withdraw from society? You would participate in only a community of like-minded aspirants? Obviously this idea has appealed to you for some time. What are its attractions? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 20:25:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA92PG6q011096 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:25:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B29531E6006B; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:20:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81B691E60062 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:20:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3A57B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:13:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14251878 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:13:13 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA92D5t24458 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:13:05 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 08 Nov 2003 18:12:59 PST Message-ID: <20031109021259.49588.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:12:59 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: mcedness To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >How does this work? Would you be sharing >in the > work that keeps the > place going? In the >expense? > > Well, it works differently in different places, of > course. Typically, one > gives control of one's assets in exchange for > sharing in the assets of the > community. At Gethsemani, the monks make cheese, > bourbon fudge, and > fruitcake. I would not work with the monks. But I > would do something to > further the aim of the place. But if I merely lived > nearby, I would retain > control of my assets - and be responsible for taking > care of myself. And wriggle as you might, you would still be responsible for the design of new robes for the monks. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 20:26:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA92Qk6q011101 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:26:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7CD6C1E60068; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:21:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EDD01E60062 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:21:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3A571@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:14:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14251901 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:14:43 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA92Egt24616 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:14:42 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-192.gwi.net [216.195.150.192]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA92EfAr022276 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:14:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031108211348.00bc2de0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 21:14:58 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: $25 per week In-Reply-To: <3FAD8CD7.1C05FC79@maynor.net> References: <60.378e539a.2cdeac26@aol.com> <001001c3a63b$07ef2420$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031108191503.00bcf630@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Your "I'm" and "my" suggest that Clyde is not going to be part of this >situation. Are you assuming he will be dead when you're eighty? > -- Natalie The likelihood is that he will be dead, yes. If he isn't, he can come with me to Birch Bay Village and we'll get a bigger apartment than I would get if it was just me. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 20:38:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA92cN6q011169 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:38:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8859E1E60073; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:33:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 574BC1E60062 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:33:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3A594@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:26:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14252141 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:25:37 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA92Pbt25484 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:25:37 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 08 Nov 2003 18:25:32 PST Message-ID: <20031109022532.82234.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:25:32 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: $25 per week To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FAD8FE7.41E859C0@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > At places like The Orchard plenty of the residents > are still driving and > going about their lives in normal ways. It's just > that they've decided > to move to an apartment that offers amenities that > will be increasingly > helpful as they grow older -- things like > house-cleaning, conveniences > of on-the-premises banking, people close around, > etc. Even the one meal > a day might be considered a convenience. And when > they reach the point > of no longer wanting to drive, they can ride the van > to go shopping or > to church or whatever. This is exactly the type of place in which my mother lives. There are even a small library and post office, beauty parlor, pharmacy, etc., in the complex. She recently had a medical emergency and it was completely managed. One of the most important attractions for her is that, though it is located in a fairly urban area, across the private road are miles and miles of forest. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 20:45:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA92jb6q011245 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:45:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E1DD51E60070; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:40:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3D5C1E6006B for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:40:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3A5A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:33:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14252347 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:33:32 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA92XWt26246 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:33:32 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 08 Nov 2003 18:33:27 PST Message-ID: <20031109023327.58785.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:33:27 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: $25 per week To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1353854020.20031108200500@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > On Saturday, November 08, 2003, Doris Markland > wrote: > > I just would not think there'd be a need for > giving up your home > > unless you have physical problems. But, as Natalie > said, some may > > just want to. > > My aunt did, after her husband died. > > Karen. There are other reasons. Maintenance expenses for a house that's too big. Often in an older home, everything goes at the same time. Kind of like your body. Also, spiraling property taxes, etc. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 20:50:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA92oa6q011269 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:50:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D64B51E60073; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:45:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A43C31E60070 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:45:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3A5A3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:38:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14252442 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:38:33 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA92cXt26563 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:38:33 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA92cWSd022076 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:38:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:39:05 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <106902293.20031108203905@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: $25 per week In-Reply-To: <20031109023327.58785.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031109023327.58785.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 08, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: [about moving to assisted living] >> My aunt did, after her husband died. >> >> Karen. > There are other reasons. Maintenance expenses for a > house that's too big. Often in an older home, > everything goes at the same time. Kind of like your > body. Also, spiraling property taxes, etc. My aunt did because she decided to sell the house she had lived in with her husband and move back north to be close to her children. It seemed silly to take on all the maintenance issues of a house at her age. But when I discussed this with her a few years ago, she didn't like the people who lived there--she thought they were all too old to be fun. (She was 78 at that point, I think.) Karen. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 21:07:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA93776q011385 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:07:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 621FB1E60073; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:02:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33A211E60070 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:02:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3A5C3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:55:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14252613 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:55:03 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA92j2t27136 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:45:02 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA92iJ3W031052 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:44:21 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:45:00 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >But is it the idea to withdraw from society? No. That is a kind of by-product of the process. You >would participate in only a community of like-minded >aspirants? Primarily. Actually, you would spend much time in prayer/meditation. Obviously this idea has appealed to you >for some time. What are its attractions? I think the operative word is . It's not that it is itself attractive and I have therefore decided to do it. It's that I feel called to do it, so therefore I explore its characteristics, probably dwelling on those I find attractive rather than those than I find less attractive. I will say, though, that some of the most satisfactory hours/days of my life have been at the Abbey of Gethsemani - on silent retreat. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 21:08:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA938R6q011390 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:08:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4DB741E60073; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:03:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F0DA1E60070 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:03:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D89D7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:56:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14252656 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:56:23 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA92kNt27226 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:46:23 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA92jb3W031216 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:45:42 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:46:18 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <20031109021259.49588.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031109021259.49588.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >And wriggle as you might, you would still be >responsible for the design of new robes for the monks. That is quite unlikely. There are probably monks who have been doing that longer than I have been alive! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 21:16:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA93Gg6q011462 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:16:42 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A91FB1E6006A; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:11:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ADB61E60062 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:11:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D89D2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:04:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14253158 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:04:39 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA934dt28453 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:04:39 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109030433.YDLV1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:04:33 -0500 Message-ID: <3FADAEC2.62E5586@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 21:04:34 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: $25 per week References: <60.378e539a.2cdeac26@aol.com> <001001c3a63b$07ef2420$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031108191503.00bcf630@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031108194350.00bbb3a0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > >You're kidding. Those places are for the > >aged. You are not aged at 80. Not by a > >long shot. - D. M. > > No, I'm not kidding. I'm only 58 and I already feel rather aged. I think > of going to the place they just built here on the island at 80 because I > wouldn't mind living in a smaller space with people my own age, getting my > nightly meal, and have no worries about maintaining a house. Perhaps at > age 80, I'd live in the independent apartments. Then at age 90 I could > move into the assisted wing. Then at age 100 I could die. That is my idea also -- the general idea, not necessarily the specific ages. Although I don't feel especially aged at sixty, I do realize that I'm going to feel it more and more and that things are going to get harder. I was thinking about that today while yanking on the lawnmower cord, thinking about how the older I get, the more burdensome things like that feel. > Here's the place they built: > http://www.birchbayinfo.com/ I love the view. It reminds me of that late afternoon when I tumbled into paradise on the Maine coast -- I've forgotten now the name of that place -- Bristol?? That was July, of course. January might have a different feel about it. But snuggled safely inside, it would be ok. I like looking out a window at . Maybe I'll move to Birch Bay. But probably I'll move here instead: http://www.orchardretirement.com/ I wish my parents had moved there instead of moving to Hville. Hindsight is always 20-20, of course. One interesting thing is that when the Orchard first opened, my mother did some advertising for them -- as in she was a "model" in some of their print and tv ads. An old friend of hers, active in Jackson theatre stuff, started an ad agency late in life -- or maybe that's not the right term -- a pool of actors and actresses who were available to do video or still ads. She talked my mother into doing a bit of it. I think The Orchard is still using a brochure with my mother's picture on its front. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 21:16:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA93Gi6q011465 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:16:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 018211E60070; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:11:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C30DB1E6006A for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:11:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D89F6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:04:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14253167 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:04:41 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA934ft28468 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:04:41 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 08 Nov 2003 19:04:36 PST Message-ID: <20031109030436.10068.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:04:36 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: mcedness To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > I think the operative word is . It's not > that it is itself > attractive and I have therefore decided to do it. > It's that I feel called > to do it, so therefore I explore its > characteristics, probably dwelling on > those I find attractive rather than those than I > find less attractive. I > will say, though, that some of the most satisfactory > hours/days of my life > have been at the Abbey of Gethsemani - on silent > retreat. I envy you your ability to achieve this peace of mind. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 21:21:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA93LZ6q011508 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:21:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 52CD51E6006A; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:16:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2157A1E60062 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:16:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3A5EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:09:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14253287 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:09:32 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA939Vt28841 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:09:31 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109030926.YEJY1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:09:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3FADAFE7.1D47D259@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 21:09:27 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness References: <3FAD18D6.A3115EC3@maynor.net> <3FAD8C54.CCA3FCF9@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >I'm not exactly sure what "in community" means. I take it that is a > >religious term meaning part of a religious group and that it involves > >giving up your possessions (since your answer to my question about > >poverty was about living in community). Is that right? > > Probably. But it could also be a community - one idea I have is to > start such a community in Knoxville - using the Rule of Benedict as our > pattern. For the Rule of Benedict, see: > > http://www.osb.org/gen/rule.html I just glanced very briefly at that url. Am busy catching up on mail after having watched a good movie -- don't remember its name, but I enjoyed it -- about a kidnapped child of an alcoholic former NYT investigative reporter and her estranged writer husband. Predictable, happy ending, but I still like movies like that. Anyway, I will look again at the Rule of Benedict later, but I would call such a group a "religious group" -- even though they're . Iow, it's still a group based on religious stuff. I'd like to live in a community that was not religion-related. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 21:25:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA93Pp6q011587 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:25:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 06BAF1E60073; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:20:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD85D1E60062 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:20:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D89FE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:13:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14253338 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:13:47 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law9-oe20.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.124]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA93Dlt29054 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:13:47 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:13:41 -0800 Received: from 199.174.3.129 by law9-oe20.law9.hotmail.com with DAV; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 03:13:41 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [199.174.3.129] X-Originating-Email: [amyb_short@hotmail.com] From: "Amy Burns Short" To: Subject: Re: $25 per week Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:12:55 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Nov 2003 03:13:41.0571 (UTC) FILETIME=[7A0C4130:01C3A66F] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >The likelihood is that he will be dead, yes. If he isn't, he can come with >me to Birch Bay Village and we'll get a bigger apartment than I would get >if it was just me. >bonnie Ah. Like the situation in the Britcom "Waiting for God." AS From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 21:27:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA93R06q011596 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:27:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1538E1E6006A; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:22:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAF981E60062 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:22:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3A5F0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:14:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14253352 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:14:56 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA93Eut29107 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:14:56 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109031451.YFNP1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:14:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3FADB12C.61428806@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 21:14:52 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: $25 per week References: <60.378e539a.2cdeac26@aol.com> <001001c3a63b$07ef2420$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031108191503.00bcf630@pop.gwi.net> <000d01c3a658$f2a15ca0$e1cadece@0018079268> <641178117.20031108184636@WordWrite.com> <003d01c3a65d$867e4f60$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > I think you are confusing assisted living and nursing homes. > > > > Karen. > > No. I just would not think there'd be a need > for giving up your home unless you have physical problems. I don't think of such moves as "giving up your home." When I move to such a place, I would think of it as . The new place would be my new home. I've never thought of moving as giving up anything. I don't see why I would think that if I moved somewhere like The Orchard. It would be moving to a new place. I'm not talking about moving straight into a hospital-like nursing-home setting. That would feel more like giving up something. I'm talking about moving into a retirement/assisted-living apartment. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 21:27:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA93Rh6q011602 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:27:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7AAA81E60070; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:22:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D1391E6006A for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:22:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3A600@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:15:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14253369 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:15:40 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA93Fdt29191 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:15:39 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109031534.YFRD1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:15:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3FADB157.4BAF9ED6@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 21:15:35 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: reading and remembering References: <5a.24455449.2cdee621@aol.com> <3FAD8E23.6D04211F@maynor.net> <3FAD9311.90107@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > > Am I right to feel that Theo is ? I was simply answering > > Karen, saying that yes, I remembered that. Several other people have > > also said that they remember it. I certainly hope that, fair-minded, > > honest person that you are, you will also tell them to knock it off. > > She's just treating you like family. You should feel good > about that. Oh, good. I'm feeling all warm and fuzzy now. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 21:30:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA93Uw6q011630 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:30:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B47AD1E60073; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:26:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 869DC1E60070 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:26:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3A602@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:18:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14253397 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:18:55 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA93Itt29397 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:18:55 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109031849.YGGP1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:18:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3FADB21A.F3185C82@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 21:18:50 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: McJob References: <000801c3a662$a5c0fd00$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > Did you read that Merriam Webster has > added "McJob" to their dictionary and > gives the meaning as low-paying dead-end > work. But surely some people move up to managerial positions at McDonald's. My guess is that the majority of employees don't, but then the majority are probably doing it short-term anyway -- like earning money to pay for school or picking up some money while looking for a better job or whatever. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 21:32:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA93Wm6q011653 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:32:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E2E2A1E60073; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:27:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B46F71E60070 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:27:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3A606@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:20:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14253445 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:20:45 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA93Kjt29527 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:20:45 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109032039.YGOC1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:20:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3FADB288.7DE2477C@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 21:20:40 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: <1736047458.20031108195125@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > I continue to like Rupert better and better each show. (I didn't like > him the first show.) He's a mensch -- or a fake. I prefer to think the former. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 21:36:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA93aY6q011726 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:36:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E0B0F1E6007A; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:31:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0E521E60070 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:31:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3A613@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:24:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14253461 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:24:01 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA93O1t29751 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:24:01 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA93O0se020944 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:24:00 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:24:33 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <10210419389.20031108212433@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: McJob In-Reply-To: <3FADB21A.F3185C82@maynor.net> References: <000801c3a662$a5c0fd00$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FADB21A.F3185C82@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 08, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Doris Markland wrote: >> >> Did you read that Merriam Webster has >> added "McJob" to their dictionary and >> gives the meaning as low-paying dead-end >> work. > But surely some people move up to managerial positions at McDonald's. Some. > My guess is that the majority of employees don't, but then the majority > are probably doing it short-term anyway -- like earning money to pay for > school or picking up some money while looking for a better job or > whatever. Or in retirement. I thought you read "Fast Food Nation"? He talks at length about McDonald's attitude toward their employees. Karen. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 21:36:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA93aY6q011729 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:36:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E2C601E6007B; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:31:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1DCF1E60070 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:31:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D8A11@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:24:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14253469 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:24:30 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA93OUt29776 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:24:30 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA93OTSd019917 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:24:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:25:03 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <601650675.20031108212503@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Survivor In-Reply-To: <3FADB288.7DE2477C@maynor.net> References: <1736047458.20031108195125@WordWrite.com> <3FADB288.7DE2477C@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 08, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> I continue to like Rupert better and better each show. (I didn't like >> him the first show.) > He's a mensch -- or a fake. I prefer to think the former. No, he's not a fake. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 21:41:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA93f16q011806 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:41:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D53781E60077; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:36:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A630A1E60070 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:36:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3A617@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:28:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14253504 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:28:58 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA93Swt29979 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:28:58 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109032853.YHXN1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:28:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3FADB475.1CD284E6@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 21:28:53 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: $25 per week References: <60.378e539a.2cdeac26@aol.com> <001001c3a63b$07ef2420$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031108191503.00bcf630@pop.gwi.net> <000d01c3a658$f2a15ca0$e1cadece@0018079268> <641178117.20031108184636@WordWrite.com> <3FAD8FE7.41E859C0@maynor.net> <1233996230.20031108200227@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Retirement homes often have the > requirement, for example, that you need to be able to walk to meals. That is a requirement at The Orchard for being in the independent-living section. > If you can't walk to meals for 3 days in a row, they boot you over to > the nursing home part of the facility. Assisted living could forestall > something like that. The Orchard has three levels, I think (four if you count the alzheimers unit, but that's not exactly a different level, as in 1-2-3 -- it's a ). The three levels are independent living, assisted living, and nursing home. > It's unlikely that I'll have to worry about any of this--my lack of > access to medical care is, I'm sure, having a negative impact on my > life expectancy. My mother never went to doctors and lived to 89 (actually 88 -- she would've been 89 the next month). I've known lots of people like that, as well as lots of people who were constantly visiting doctors and died pretty young. I realize that visiting doctors can in some cases identify problems that can be cured, thus extending one's life. But I really don't think that's true in general. Iow, I feel pretty sure that I would live the same number of years whether I went for my annual boob-and-crotch testing or I didn't. I've been sucked into the mainstream idea that one should , so I do it. But I don't think it matters much. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 21:48:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA93m46q011875 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:48:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B39251E6007A; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:43:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 825A41E60070 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:43:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3A615@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:36:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14253715 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:36:01 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA93a1t30399 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:36:01 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109033556.YJAJ1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:35:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3FADB61C.F5738B1D@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 21:35:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: $25 per week References: <20031109022532.82234.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > This is exactly the type of place in which my mother > lives. There are even a small library and post > office, beauty parlor, pharmacy, etc., in the complex. Yes -- there's all that kind of stuff at The Orchard. I've toured it on a couple of occasions. > One of the most important attractions for her is that, > though it is located in a fairly urban area, across > the private road are miles and miles of forest. The Orchard is sort of like that. It seems somewhat bucolic in setting but is right at the edge of Jackson (actually Ridgeland -- a suburb of Jackson) with a major mall within a mile. There's another place in Jackson (or again not really in Jackson -- in Madison, another northern suburb of Jackson) that is popular among people I know -- St. Catherine's. It's more bucolic but also farther from activity. To enter it, you buy your apartment for some large amount of money that is non-refundable -- as in if you die the next day, St. Catherine's (or the Catholic church that runs it) makes out like a bandit. At The Orchard you rent. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 21:50:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA93oF6q011885 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:50:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A30E71E60077; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:45:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71DB71E60070 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:45:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3A633@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:38:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14253743 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:38:03 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA93c3t30517 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:38:03 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109033758.YJHV1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:37:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3FADB696.64844684@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 21:37:58 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: $25 per week References: <20031109023327.58785.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <106902293.20031108203905@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > There are other reasons. Maintenance expenses for a > > house that's too big. Often in an older home, > > everything goes at the same time. Kind of like your > > body. Also, spiraling property taxes, etc. > > My aunt did because she decided to sell the house she had lived in > with her husband and move back north to be close to her children. It > seemed silly to take on all the maintenance issues of a house at her > age. But when I discussed this with her a few years ago, she didn't > like the people who lived there--she thought they were all too old to > be fun. (She was 78 at that point, I think.) But it's not an either-or thing of house or retirement community. One can rent an apartment that is not in a retirement community but that doesn't have the maintenance hassle that home-ownership has. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 21:51:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA93pM6q011897 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:51:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 724171E60077; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:46:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 453801E60070 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:46:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3A635@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:39:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14253772 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:39:19 -0500 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA93dIt30648 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:39:18 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.a9.4abb804b (17079) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:39:06 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:39:06 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] mcedness To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/8/2003 8:10:37 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << But is it the idea to withdraw from society? You would participate in only a community of like-minded aspirants? Obviously this idea has appealed to you for some time. What are its attractions? >> A good book to read about this is _In This House of Brede_ by Rumer Godden. It's a well-researched novel about a group of nuns and lay sisters in a monastery in England. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Trying to make sense of the latest Big O From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 21:58:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA93wZ6q011976 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:58:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D0E351E60077; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:53:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A271D1E60074 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:53:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3A624@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:46:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14253887 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:46:31 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA93kVt31153 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:46:31 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 08 Nov 2003 19:46:25 PST Message-ID: <20031109034625.83139.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:46:25 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: $25 per week To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FADB475.1CD284E6@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: Karen wrote: have to worry about any of > this--my lack of > > access to medical care is, I'm sure, having a > negative impact on my > > life expectancy. > > My mother never went to doctors and lived to 89 > (actually 88 -- she > would've been 89 the next month). I've known lots > of people like that, > as well as lots of people who were constantly > visiting doctors and died > pretty young. Falling into the medical trap can be downright dangerous. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 21:58:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA93wk6q011987 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:58:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 88D8B1E6007A; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:53:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5949E1E60077 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:53:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D8A3C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:46:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14253900 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:46:42 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA93kgt31172 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:46:42 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hA93ke2I024586 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:46:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:47:13 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1762059680.20031108214713@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: $25 per week In-Reply-To: <3FADB475.1CD284E6@maynor.net> References: <60.378e539a.2cdeac26@aol.com> <001001c3a63b$07ef2420$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031108191503.00bcf630@pop.gwi.net> <000d01c3a658$f2a15ca0$e1cadece@0018079268> <641178117.20031108184636@WordWrite.com> <3FAD8FE7.41E859C0@maynor.net> <1233996230.20031108200227@WordWrite.com> <3FADB475.1CD284E6@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 08, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > The Orchard has three levels, I think (four if you count the alzheimers > unit, but that's not exactly a different level, as in 1-2-3 -- it's a > ). The three levels are independent living, assisted > living, and nursing home. Yes, that makes sense to me. What I'm talking about is the situation some years ago. My parents' retirement home was moving towards offering retirement and assisted living. >> It's unlikely that I'll have to worry about any of this--my lack of >> access to medical care is, I'm sure, having a negative impact on my >> life expectancy. > My mother never went to doctors and lived to 89 (actually 88 -- she > would've been 89 the next month). I've known lots of people like that, > as well as lots of people who were constantly visiting doctors and died > pretty young. I realize that visiting doctors can in some cases > identify problems that can be cured, thus extending one's life. But I > really don't think that's true in general. Iow, I feel pretty sure that > I would live the same number of years whether I went for my annual > boob-and-crotch testing or I didn't. I've been sucked into the > mainstream idea that one should , so I do it. But I don't > think it matters much. I am not going to discuss this. I have specific reasons for what I said, but I'm not going to elaborate on the list. I was not speaking in generalities. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 21:59:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA93xg6q011999 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:59:42 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3DE8A1E6007A; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:54:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DE1A1E60077 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:54:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3A645@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:47:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14253951 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:47:38 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA93lct31260 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:47:38 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hA93la2I024919 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:47:36 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:48:10 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <867035718.20031108214810@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: $25 per week In-Reply-To: <3FADB696.64844684@maynor.net> References: <20031109023327.58785.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <106902293.20031108203905@WordWrite.com> <3FADB696.64844684@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 08, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > But it's not an either-or thing of house or retirement community. One > can rent an apartment that is not in a retirement community but that > doesn't have the maintenance hassle that home-ownership has. In theory, yes. Not always in practice. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 22:01:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA941m6q012012 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:01:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 052B51E6007A; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:56:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB61D1E60077 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:56:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3A62E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:49:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14253988 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:49:44 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA93nit31362 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:49:44 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109034939.RZUB1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:49:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 21:49:40 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Obviously this idea has appealed to you >for some time. What are its > attractions? > > I think the operative word is . It's not that it is itself > attractive and I have therefore decided to do it. It's that I feel called > to do it, so therefore I explore its characteristics, probably dwelling on > those I find attractive rather than those than I find less attractive. I > will say, though, that some of the most satisfactory hours/days of my life > have been at the Abbey of Gethsemani - on silent retreat. I really don't mean to sound disrespectful or whatever, but I just don't get this thing. I'm familiar with the concept -- that God one to do something like retire to a secluded setting. But I don't get why. Like what's the point? I don't have any problem understanding the last part of what you said -- that you found those hours/days good and therefore would feel comfortable living in such a way. It's the part before that that I don't get -- "it's not that it is itself attractive." Obviously I understand the point of doing lots of things in life that we don't find . I'm a believer in doing things that serve a worthy purpose, things that need to be done, whether they are pleasant/attractive or not. But I don't quite see what purpose is being served by the kind of life you're talking about. Like what good is it doing for the world? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 22:02:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA942p6q012020 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:02:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 881831E6007A; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:57:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AA401E60077 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:57:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3A64D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:50:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14254024 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:50:47 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA93olt31419 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:50:47 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 08 Nov 2003 19:50:42 PST Message-ID: <20031109035042.68414.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:50:42 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: mcedness To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > > A good book to read about this is _In This House of > Brede_ by Rumer Godden. It's a well-researched > novel about a group of nuns and lay sisters in a > monastery in England. Ohmigosh! I read that book many years ago, and have thought about it since. The name Diana comes to mind. I liked the book, and I read very little fiction. Didn't she also write something called "The Kitchen Madonna"? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 22:04:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA944f6q012034 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:04:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 768111E6007B; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:59:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 493D41E60074 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:59:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3A64D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:52:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14254148 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:52:38 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA93qct31573 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:52:38 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 08 Nov 2003 19:52:32 PST Message-ID: <20031109035232.75116.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:52:32 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: $25 per week To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1762059680.20031108214713@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > I am not going to discuss this. I have specific > reasons for what I > said, but I'm not going to elaborate on the list. I > was not speaking > in generalities. Well then, neither shall I. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 22:06:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA946o6q012051 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:06:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C6DE61E6018C; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:01:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952CC1E6008D for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:01:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3A646@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:54:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14254225 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:54:46 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA93skt31738 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:54:46 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.184]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109035441.SAUA1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:54:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3FADBA81.2B0A9E76@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 21:54:41 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: McJob References: <000801c3a662$a5c0fd00$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FADB21A.F3185C82@maynor.net> <10210419389.20031108212433@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > But surely some people move up to managerial positions at McDonald's. > > Some. ? Isn't that what I said? > > My guess is that the majority of employees don't, but then the majority > > are probably doing it short-term anyway -- like earning money to pay for > > school or picking up some money while looking for a better job or > > whatever. > > Or in retirement. Right. Iow, short-term -- people in situations where dead-in doesn't matter. > I thought you read "Fast Food Nation"? He talks at length about > McDonald's attitude toward their employees. No, I bought it in the Helsinki airport because I was afraid I might on my way home, didn't run out of book, but then did open FFN a while later. I read it in places like waiting rooms off and on for a while, a few pages at a time, but haven't picked it up in over a year at least. I found it boring. It's still sitting around my house somewhere and I may read the rest of it someday. Probably not, though. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 22:13:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA94DT6q012081 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:13:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A71581E6008D; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:08:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78D811E6007B for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:08:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3A6E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:01:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14255626 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:01:26 -0500 Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA941Qt00452 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:01:26 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.79.1c1cbf65 (16633) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:01:15 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <79.1c1cbf65.2cdf160b@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:01:15 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] mcedness To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/8/2003 9:50:55 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << Ohmigosh! I read that book many years ago, and have thought about it since. The name Diana comes to mind. I liked the book, and I read very little fiction. Didn't she also write something called "The Kitchen Madonna"? >> I think so. Diana Rigg played Dame Philippa in the movie that was, IMO, loosely based on the book. A lot of the scenes were different than they were in the book. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Trying to make sense of the latest Big O From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 22:19:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA94Jd6q012148 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:19:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8055A1E6018C; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:14:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED771E60182 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:14:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3A81B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:07:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14258052 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:07:36 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA947Xt01974 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:07:33 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA947Wse013685 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:07:33 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:08:03 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1788576877.20031108220803@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: mcedness In-Reply-To: <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 08, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I really don't mean to sound disrespectful or whatever, but I just don't > get this thing. I'm familiar with the concept -- that God > one to do something like retire to a secluded setting. But I > don't get why. Like what's the point? I don't have any problem > understanding the last part of what you said -- that you found those > hours/days good and therefore would feel comfortable living in such a > way. It's the part before that that I don't get -- "it's not that it is > itself attractive." Obviously I understand the point of doing lots of > things in life that we don't find . I'm a believer in doing > things that serve a worthy purpose, things that need to be done, whether > they are pleasant/attractive or not. But I don't quite see what purpose > is being served by the kind of life you're talking about. Like what > good is it doing for the world? I don't think a calling specifically has to be called by god. I am more or less an agnostic and I understand perfectly what Bethany was talking about. (Actually, Bethany would probably like the Church of Conscious Harmony in Austin--they are way too scripture-y for me. I don't remember the URL, but you can easily find it by googling.) Where was I? Oh, the point of a life of dedicated prayer and contemplation. My friend who entered the monastery did so to save the world. It was interesting, because many of our friends didn't this, and were quite critical of her leaving the world. But it turns out that there is a selfish aspect to such an act--when one meditates or prays with compassion for others in mind, the benefit is first and immediately for the meditater, not the meditatee. But I believe that meditatees do benefit. Anyway, I understand Bethany's feelings on this topic. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 22:28:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA94St6q012212 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:28:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5B4231E6007C; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:24:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D6001E6007B for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:24:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3A822@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:16:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14258161 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:16:52 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA94Gpt02647 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:16:51 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 08 Nov 2003 20:16:46 PST Message-ID: <20031109041646.89016.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:16:46 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: mcedness To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <79.1c1cbf65.2cdf160b@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > I think so. > > Diana Rigg played Dame Philippa in the movie that > was, > IMO, loosely based on the book. A lot of the scenes > were different than they were in the book. And was there an oft-repeated phrase or "slogan" in "This House"? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 22:34:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA94Y76q012237 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:34:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 737371E6007B; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:29:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 456341E60074 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:29:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D8C0F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:22:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14258194 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:22:04 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA94M3t02889 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:22:03 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA94Lue6021196 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:22:01 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000e01c3a679$031a1340$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000801c3a662$a5c0fd00$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FADB21A.F3185C82@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: McJob Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:21:52 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" To: Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 9:18 PM Subject: Re: McJob > Doris Markland wrote: > > > > Did you read that Merriam Webster has > > added "McJob" to their dictionary and > > gives the meaning as low-paying dead-end > > work. > > But surely some people move up to managerial positions at McDonald's. > My guess is that the majority of employees don't, but then the majority > are probably doing it short-term anyway -- like earning money to pay for > school or picking up some money while looking for a better job or > whatever. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I can see why McDonald's is upset. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 22:34:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA94Ye6q012257 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:34:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 07E8D1E6007C; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:29:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB1431E60074 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:29:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3A840@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:22:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14258208 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:22:36 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA94Mat02911 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:22:36 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 08 Nov 2003 20:22:31 PST Message-ID: <20031109042231.90085.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:22:31 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: mcedness To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1788576877.20031108220803@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > Oh, the point of a life of dedicated prayer and > contemplation. > > My friend who entered the monastery did so to save > the world. It was > interesting, because many of our friends didn't > this, and were > quite critical of her leaving the world. But it > turns out that there > is a selfish aspect to such an act--when one > meditates or prays with > compassion for others in mind, the benefit is first > and immediately > for the meditater, not the meditatee. But I believe > that meditatees > do benefit. > > Anyway, I understand Bethany's feelings on this > topic. But for how long will individuals leave the world to save the world, and the world not be saved after all? Is it just a leap of faith whether or not it's successful? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 22:36:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA94ai6q012263 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:36:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 616FA1E6007F; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:31:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F4581E6007C for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:31:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3A828@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:24:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14258231 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:24:41 -0500 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA94Oet03015 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:24:40 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.42.40bd1916 (4222) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:24:33 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <42.40bd1916.2cdf1b81@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:24:33 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] mcedness To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/8/2003 10:17:02 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << And was there an oft-repeated phrase or "slogan" in "This House"? >> Not that I remember. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Trying to make sense of the latest Big O From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 22:38:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA94cK6q012294 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:38:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D97F91E6007B; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:33:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABE6E1E6007C for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:33:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D8C13@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:26:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14259041 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:26:08 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA94Q4t03314 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:26:04 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 08 Nov 2003 20:25:58 PST Message-ID: <20031109042558.98805.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:25:58 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: McJob To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <000e01c3a679$031a1340$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > I can see why McDonald's is upset. Seems to me it would be another case of crying all the way to the bank. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 22:42:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA94ga6q012346 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:42:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 084251E6007B; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:37:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEC241E60074 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:37:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3A8AF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:30:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14259307 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:30:32 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA94UWt03616 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:30:32 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA94UVSd000302 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:30:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:31:05 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1763775848.20031108223105@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: McJob In-Reply-To: <000e01c3a679$031a1340$e1cadece@0018079268> References: <000801c3a662$a5c0fd00$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FADB21A.F3185C82@maynor.net> <000e01c3a679$031a1340$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 08, 2003, Doris Markland wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Natalie Maynor" > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 9:18 PM > Subject: Re: McJob >> Doris Markland wrote: >> > >> > Did you read that Merriam Webster has >> > added "McJob" to their dictionary and >> > gives the meaning as low-paying dead-end >> > work. >> >> But surely some people move up to managerial positions at McDonald's. >> My guess is that the majority of employees don't, but then the > majority >> are probably doing it short-term anyway -- like earning money to pay > for >> school or picking up some money while looking for a better job or >> whatever. >> >> -- >> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > I can see why McDonald's is upset. What are they upset about? Surely not about McJob--that's been around for a long time (witness its presence in the dictionary). Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 22:46:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA94k96q012364 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:46:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E45D81E6007C; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:41:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1A891E60074 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:41:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D8C7D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:34:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14259374 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:33:53 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA94Xet03819 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:33:40 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA94XdSd001744 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:33:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:34:13 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1982087773.20031108223413@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: mcedness In-Reply-To: <20031109042231.90085.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031109042231.90085.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 08, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > But for how long will individuals leave the world to > save the world, and the world not be saved after all? > Is it just a leap of faith whether or not it's successful? No, I think it's quite practical. We do still have a world, don't we? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 22:50:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA94oe6q012404 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:50:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 439491E60182; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:45:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08A241E6007C for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:45:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3A8E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:38:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14259525 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:38:36 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA94cat04144 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:38:36 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA94cWe6019104 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:38:34 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000601c3a67b$533cfd40$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000801c3a662$a5c0fd00$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FADB21A.F3185C82@maynor.net> <000e01c3a679$031a1340$e1cadece@0018079268> <1763775848.20031108223105@WordWrite.com> Subject: Re: Re: McJob Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:38:29 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > I can see why McDonald's is upset. > > What are they upset about? Surely not about McJob--that's been around > for a long time (witness its presence in the dictionary). > > Karen Well, I'd show you the article but I can't remember where I saw it. NYT maybe. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 22:52:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA94qN6q012424 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:52:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DC9AC1E60182; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:47:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADE521E6018C for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:47:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D8CB1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:40:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14259572 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:40:19 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA94eJt04243 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:40:19 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA94eGe6021938 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:40:17 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000f01c3a67b$90a7a540$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031109042558.98805.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: McJob Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:40:12 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: McJob > --- Doris Markland wrote: > > I can see why McDonald's is upset. > > Seems to me it would be another case of crying all the > way to the bank. Meaning? Like, they will benefit from having a word named after them? Even one with a negative connotation? Or what? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 23:01:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA951i6q012547 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:01:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3035F1E6007D; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:56:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 018531E6007B for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:56:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3A8FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:49:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14259748 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:49:40 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA94net04726 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:49:40 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hA94nc2I023642 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:49:38 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:50:11 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <646673768.20031108225011@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: McJob In-Reply-To: <000601c3a67b$533cfd40$e1cadece@0018079268> References: <000801c3a662$a5c0fd00$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FADB21A.F3185C82@maynor.net> <000e01c3a679$031a1340$e1cadece@0018079268> <1763775848.20031108223105@WordWrite.com> <000601c3a67b$533cfd40$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 08, 2003, Doris Markland wrote: >> >> > I can see why McDonald's is upset. >> >> What are they upset about? Surely not about McJob--that's been around >> for a long time (witness its presence in the dictionary). >> >> Karen > Well, I'd show you the article but I can't > remember where I saw it. NYT maybe. I don't want to read the article. Surely if you can see why they are upset, you know why that is? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 23:03:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA953U6q012557 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:03:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A01931E6007B; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:58:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71E021E6007D for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:58:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3A8FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:51:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14259772 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:51:26 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA94pPt04818 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:51:26 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA94pPSd009357 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:51:25 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:51:59 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <724423272.20031108225159@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: McJob In-Reply-To: <000f01c3a67b$90a7a540$e1cadece@0018079268> References: <20031109042558.98805.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> <000f01c3a67b$90a7a540$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 08, 2003, Doris Markland wrote: > Subject: Re: McJob >> --- Doris Markland wrote: >> > I can see why McDonald's is upset. >> >> Seems to me it would be another case of crying all the >> way to the bank. > Meaning? Like, they will benefit from > having a word named after them? > Even one with a negative connotation? > Or what? > - D. M. There's no such thing as bad publicity. Having a word with your name in it is a consequence of being part of pop culture. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 23:03:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA953u6q012570 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:03:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4C79F1E6007D; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:59:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ECD61E6007B for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:59:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3A8FE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:51:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14259795 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:51:52 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA94pqt04871 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:51:52 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA94pnse007784 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:51:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:52:22 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1962641212.20031108225222@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Hmmm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What does 'faz' mean? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 23:05:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA95586q012579 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:05:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9F7C91E6007F; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:00:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71E6B1E6007D for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:00:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3A8E9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:53:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14259849 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:53:04 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA94r3t04977 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:53:04 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA94r3se008426 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:53:03 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:53:37 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <810414150.20031108225337@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hmmm In-Reply-To: <1962641212.20031108225222@WordWrite.com> References: <1962641212.20031108225222@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 08, 2003, Karen Kay wrote: > What does 'faz' mean? Never mind, it's a nonsense word. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 23:06:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA956c6q012590 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:06:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6DE421E6007D; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:01:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40E491E6007B for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:01:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3A8ED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:54:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14259889 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:54:34 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA94sXt05034 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:54:33 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 08 Nov 2003 20:54:28 PST Message-ID: <20031109045428.80452.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:54:28 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: McJob To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <000f01c3a67b$90a7a540$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > --- Doris Markland wrote: > Meaning? Like, they will benefit from > having a word named after them? > Even one with a negative connotation? > Or what? Meaning, I don't believe it will make a bit of difference in the way their business is structured, nor will it have any substantial impact on how the public views their fast food. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 23:26:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA95Qh6q012644 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:26:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B4A3F1E6007F; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:21:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F251E6007E for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:21:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3AA4B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 0:14:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14262448 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 00:14:39 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA95Edt07482 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 00:14:39 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-83.gwi.net [216.195.150.83]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA95EbAr038682 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 00:14:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109001417.00bcd5f8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 00:14:53 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: $25 per week In-Reply-To: <3FADAEC2.62E5586@maynor.net> References: <60.378e539a.2cdeac26@aol.com> <001001c3a63b$07ef2420$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031108191503.00bcf630@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031108194350.00bbb3a0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I love the view. It reminds me of that late afternoon when I tumbled >into paradise on the Maine coast -- I've forgotten now the name of that >place -- Bristol?? That was July, of course. > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) That's close. I belive it was Belfast, Maine. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 23:36:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA95aH6q012709 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:36:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D764C1E60182; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:31:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A57B51E6007F for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:31:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D8E29@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 0:24:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14262770 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 00:24:13 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA95ODt08085 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 00:24:13 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-83.gwi.net [216.195.150.83]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA95OBAr039096 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 00:24:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109002305.00bc7998@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 00:24:28 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: $25 per week In-Reply-To: <3FADAEC2.62E5586@maynor.net> References: <60.378e539a.2cdeac26@aol.com> <001001c3a63b$07ef2420$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031108191503.00bcf630@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031108194350.00bbb3a0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Here's the place they built: > > http://www.birchbayinfo.com/ > >I love the view. It reminds me of that late afternoon when I tumbled >into paradise on the Maine coast -- I've forgotten now the name of that >place -- Bristol?? That was July, of course. January might have a >different feel about it. But snuggled safely inside, it would be ok. I >like looking out a window at . Maybe I'll move to Birch Bay. But >probably I'll move here instead: > >http://www.orchardretirement.com/ > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) The Maine place gives prices. I couldn't find any place on the Mississippi one that had prices. Do you have any idea what they are? It would be interesting to see how Maine and Mississippi prices compare. The places seem similar. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 8 23:45:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA95jt6q012796 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:45:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C56841E6007F; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:40:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C431E6007E for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:40:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3AACE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 0:33:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14262963 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 00:33:51 -0500 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.99]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA95Xpt08650 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 00:33:51 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.71.373c0484 (3932) for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 00:33:39 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <71.373c0484.2cdf2bb3@aol.com> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 00:33:39 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] McJob To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/8/2003 10:51:48 PM Central Standard Time, Karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: << There's no such thing as bad publicity. >> Depends on if the product has caused any deaths; remember the Rely tampon? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Trying to make sense of the latest Big O From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 05:52:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9BqR6q015902 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 05:52:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 883331E60097; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 05:47:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5678E1E60096 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 05:47:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3AE5D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 6:40:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14270763 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:40:20 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9BeKt06694 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:40:20 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109114015.GJLD1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:40:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAE27A0.586ABAC9@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 05:40:16 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: $25 per week References: <20031109023327.58785.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <106902293.20031108203905@WordWrite.com> <3FADB696.64844684@maynor.net> <867035718.20031108214810@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > On Saturday, November 08, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > But it's not an either-or thing of house or retirement community. One > > can rent an apartment that is not in a retirement community but that > > doesn't have the maintenance hassle that home-ownership has. > > In theory, yes. Not always in practice. Why not? There are surely far more ordinary apartments available than there are retirement-type places, and the ordinary ones are far cheaper in most cases. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 05:55:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9BtR6q015951 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 05:55:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5FFF11E6009C; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 05:50:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DC701E6009A for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 05:50:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3AE68@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 6:43:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14270861 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:43:20 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9BhJt06887 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:43:19 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109114314.GJQR1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:43:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAE2853.776A9B28@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 05:43:15 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <1788576877.20031108220803@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > My friend who entered the monastery did so to save the world. It was > interesting, because many of our friends didn't this, and were > quite critical of her leaving the world. But it turns out that there I realize, of course, that this question has been debated for many centuries, both in and in fiction (thinking now about Chaucer's monk and his "how best to serve the world" rationalizations). > is a selfish aspect to such an act--when one meditates or prays with > compassion for others in mind, the benefit is first and immediately > for the meditater, not the meditatee. But I believe that meditatees > do benefit. That (the selfish aspect) is arguably true of most things in life. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 06:01:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9C1w6q015970 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:01:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 154891E6009A; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 05:57:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7D161E60096 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 05:56:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3AE7C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 6:49:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14270781 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:49:51 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9Bnot07217 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:49:51 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109114946.GKHI1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:49:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAE29DA.6C5BCBF9@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 05:49:46 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: McJob References: <000801c3a662$a5c0fd00$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FADB21A.F3185C82@maynor.net> <000e01c3a679$031a1340$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > But surely some people move up to managerial positions at McDonald's. > > My guess is that the majority of employees don't, but then the > majority > > are probably doing it short-term anyway -- like earning money to pay > for > > school or picking up some money while looking for a better job or > > whatever. > > -- > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > I can see why McDonald's is upset. Upset about what? The word coinage? The "burger-flipping" example has been in use for ages and ages, and I feel sure that people are often thinking of McDonald's when they use it. And surely McDonald's realizes that its work force is largely youngish and temporary. I see nothing wrong with that, as long as the employees are treated decently -- as in they're not being yanked behind the stoves and beaten or paid less than minimum wage or whatever. The employees are earning money doing low-skill work. Iow, what is wrong with the picture? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 06:03:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9C3p6q015975 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:03:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 01EF81E6009C; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 05:58:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 859E81E6009A for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 05:58:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3AE64@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 6:51:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14270807 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:51:43 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9Bpht07294 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:51:43 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109115138.GKLT1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:51:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAE2A4B.6B87F72F@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 05:51:39 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: McJob References: <000801c3a662$a5c0fd00$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FADB21A.F3185C82@maynor.net> <000e01c3a679$031a1340$e1cadece@0018079268> <1763775848.20031108223105@WordWrite.com> <000601c3a67b$533cfd40$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > Well, I'd show you the article but I can't > remember where I saw it. NYT maybe. A quick google for mcjob produced this on Yahoo news: http://tinyurl.com/u9ve -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 06:07:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9C7R6q016018 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:07:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F05171E6009C; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:02:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0A6C1E6009A for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:02:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3AE85@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 6:55:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14270849 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:55:20 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9BtJt07457 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:55:19 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109115514.GKVJ1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:55:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAE2B23.F1D132F2@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 05:55:15 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: McJob References: <20031109042558.98805.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> <000f01c3a67b$90a7a540$e1cadece@0018079268> <724423272.20031108225159@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Having a word with your name in it is a consequence of being part of > pop culture. This is the kind of thing I've thought about re generic use of xerox, etc. Seems to me that the Xerox people would consider it a compliment and good publicity. I guess I can see the possible down-side also -- like when a boss tells an employee to go out and buy a new Xerox machine for the office, and the employee comes back with a xerox machine made by IBM. The generic use of brand names is, I realize, not quite the same as the McJob usage. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 06:09:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9C9p6q016025 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:09:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AABD81E6009C; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:04:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78DCC1E6009A for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:04:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3AE86@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 6:57:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14270865 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:57:43 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9Bvht07565 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:57:43 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109115738.GLBM1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:57:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAE2BB3.5A12A9E0@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 05:57:39 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hmmm References: <1962641212.20031108225222@WordWrite.com> <810414150.20031108225337@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > What does 'faz' mean? > > Never mind, it's a nonsense word. I'm disappointed. I was thinking you'd just introduced me to a new Scrabble word (though it's getting the f that's the hard thing when you have the z -- still it would be nice, though, to be able to use either a or e if you had the f and z). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 06:10:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9CAM6q016028 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:10:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A02F41E6009C; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:05:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71E1A1E6009A for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:05:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3AE6E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 6:58:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14270887 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:58:14 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9BwEt07611 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:58:14 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109115809.GLCT1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:58:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAE2BD2.487F5FB8@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 05:58:10 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: $25 per week References: <60.378e539a.2cdeac26@aol.com> <001001c3a63b$07ef2420$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031108191503.00bcf630@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031108194350.00bbb3a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109001417.00bcd5f8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > >I love the view. It reminds me of that late afternoon when I tumbled > >into paradise on the Maine coast -- I've forgotten now the name of that > >place -- Bristol?? That was July, of course. > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > That's close. I belive it was Belfast, Maine. Yes! Belfast it was. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 06:14:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9CEg6q016047 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:14:42 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5536D1E6009C; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:09:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2394F1E6009A for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:09:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D9106@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 7:02:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14271016 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 07:02:35 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9C2Zt07897 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 07:02:35 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109120230.GLOZ1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 07:02:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAE2CD7.C7BC6294@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 06:02:31 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: $25 per week References: <60.378e539a.2cdeac26@aol.com> <001001c3a63b$07ef2420$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031108191503.00bcf630@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031108194350.00bbb3a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109002305.00bc7998@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > The Maine place gives prices. I couldn't find any place on the Mississippi > one that had prices. Do you have any idea what they are? It would be > interesting to see how Maine and Mississippi prices compare. The places > seem similar. It's been probably five or more years since I last saw their brochures with the prices. I remember thinking then that they were not unreasonable at all -- that they were maybe not quite twice what you would expect to pay in rent for a nice apartment in a setting. I'm talking now about the independent-living apartments. The costs presumably moved up if you moved to more care-intensive sections. I wish they had the prices online since I'm curious about them now. They vary by the size of the apartment, of course. I'm thinking that back five or six years ago the smallest of the apartments was maybe in the low $2,000s a month. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 06:20:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9CKq6q016078 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:20:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C2E6A1E6009C; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:15:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F6841E6009A for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:15:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3AE9F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 7:08:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14271179 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 07:08:45 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9C8it08215 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 07:08:44 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109120839.GMFQ1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 07:08:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAE2E48.4469F0E9@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 06:08:40 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: $25 per week References: <60.378e539a.2cdeac26@aol.com> <001001c3a63b$07ef2420$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031108191503.00bcf630@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031108194350.00bbb3a0@pop.gwi.net> <3FADAEC2.62E5586@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I found a website for the other of the main two retirement places parents of my friends and friends of my parents have gone, the one run by the Catholic church. It's the one where you buy the apartment rather than renting it. But the website offers very, very little info: http://www.stdom.com/about/care/stcath.cfm -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 06:34:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9CYZ6q016212 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:34:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1C7F11E6009A; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:29:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDF541E60095 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:29:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3AEB8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 7:22:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14271292 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 07:22:28 -0500 Received: from fe2.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9CMSt08795 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 07:22:28 -0500 Received: from [136.167.88.199] (HELO bc.edu) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.5) with ESMTP id 34419920 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 07:22:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAE317E.4070304@bc.edu> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 07:22:22 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: $25 per week References: <60.378e539a.2cdeac26@aol.com> <001001c3a63b$07ef2420$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031108191503.00bcf630@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031108194350.00bbb3a0@pop.gwi.net> <3FADAEC2.62E5586@maynor.net> <3FAE2E48.4469F0E9@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <3FAE2E48.4469F0E9@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Good Morning, Natalie! I'm at work and not really paying too much attention to the list right now; but I did notice that you and I seem to be the only ones "up and about" right now so I thought that I would just say "Hello!" Rita L. Rita Leonard Information Technology Systems Services O'Neill Library 544 Phone: 617-552-3403 Email: rita.leonard@bc.edu "Whether you believe you can do a thing or not, you are right." Henry Ford From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 06:53:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9Cru6q016383 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:53:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 52B691E6009D; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:48:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22FD91E6009A for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:48:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D9158@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 7:41:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14272126 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 07:41:40 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9Cfet10506 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 07:41:40 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109124134.DMCC1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 07:41:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAE35FF.F8B8D50A@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 06:41:35 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: $25 per week References: <60.378e539a.2cdeac26@aol.com> <001001c3a63b$07ef2420$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031108191503.00bcf630@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031108194350.00bbb3a0@pop.gwi.net> <3FADAEC2.62E5586@maynor.net> <3FAE2E48.4469F0E9@maynor.net> <3FAE317E.4070304@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: > > Good Morning, Natalie! > > I'm at work and not really paying too much attention to the list right > now; but I did notice that you and I seem to be the only ones "up and > about" right now so I thought that I would just say "Hello!" Good morning! Usually Espen is around at this time of day. But maybe that's weekdays. Maybe he's on a Sunday hike right now. I hope you are doing exciting things at works. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 07:24:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9DOv6q016741 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 07:24:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A79E11E600A6; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 07:19:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 791B91E600A5 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 07:19:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3AF4C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 8:12:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14272736 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 08:12:50 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9DCnt12413 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 08:12:49 -0500 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com[12.240.11.178]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20031109131241014005m80ee>; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:12:41 +0000 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031109051332.00a792c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bfclark2@mail.comcast.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 05:14:36 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: BF Clark Subject: Re: $25 per week In-Reply-To: <3FAE35FF.F8B8D50A@maynor.net> References: <60.378e539a.2cdeac26@aol.com> <001001c3a63b$07ef2420$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031108191503.00bcf630@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031108194350.00bbb3a0@pop.gwi.net> <3FADAEC2.62E5586@maynor.net> <3FAE2E48.4469F0E9@maynor.net> <3FAE317E.4070304@bc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:41 AM 11/9/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Rita Leonard wrote: > > > > Good Morning, Natalie! > > > > I'm at work and not really paying too much attention to the list right > > now; but I did notice that you and I seem to be the only ones "up and > > about" right now so I thought that I would just say "Hello!" > >Good morning! Usually Espen is around at this time of day. But maybe >that's weekdays. Maybe he's on a Sunday hike right now. I hope you are >doing exciting things at works. Top of the morning to you both. Espen seems to be on week ends. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 07:28:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9DSn6q016764 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 07:28:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A85101E600A5; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 07:23:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76ADA1E600A3 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 07:23:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3AF3C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 8:16:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14272836 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 08:16:42 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9DGft12699 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 08:16:41 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hA9DGdvg005642 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 07:16:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 07:17:14 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1567655670.20031109071714@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: $25 per week In-Reply-To: <3FAE27A0.586ABAC9@maynor.net> References: <20031109023327.58785.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <106902293.20031108203905@WordWrite.com> <3FADB696.64844684@maynor.net> <867035718.20031108214810@WordWrite.com> <3FAE27A0.586ABAC9@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 09, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> >> On Saturday, November 08, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> > But it's not an either-or thing of house or retirement community. One >> > can rent an apartment that is not in a retirement community but that >> > doesn't have the maintenance hassle that home-ownership has. >> >> In theory, yes. Not always in practice. > Why not? Location, location, location. Housing stock varies. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 07:31:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9DVY6q016792 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 07:31:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 65FBF1E600A5; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 07:26:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33EF11E600A3 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 07:26:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3AF50@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 8:19:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14272905 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 08:19:26 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9DJQt12903 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 08:19:26 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hA9DJO2I010417 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 07:19:24 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 07:19:59 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1559037394.20031109071959@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: mcedness In-Reply-To: <3FAE2853.776A9B28@maynor.net> References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <1788576877.20031108220803@WordWrite.com> <3FAE2853.776A9B28@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 09, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> My friend who entered the monastery did so to save the world. It was >> interesting, because many of our friends didn't this, and were >> quite critical of her leaving the world. But it turns out that there > I realize, of course, that this question has been debated for many > centuries, both in and in fiction (thinking now about > Chaucer's monk and his "how best to serve the world" rationalizations). Yes. Though IME debate is fruitless. People either or they don't. >> is a selfish aspect to such an act--when one meditates or prays with >> compassion for others in mind, the benefit is first and immediately >> for the meditater, not the meditatee. But I believe that meditatees >> do benefit. > That (the selfish aspect) is arguably true of most things in life. Of course; it's what keeps people doing it, consciously or unconsciously. I'm fine with that, because I do think it's important that they continue to do that. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 07:54:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9DsT6q016931 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 07:54:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1752D1E600A5; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 07:49:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD9DB1E600A3 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 07:49:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3AF84@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 8:42:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14273311 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 08:42:21 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9DgKt14417 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 08:42:21 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-51.gwi.net [216.195.152.51]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA9DgIGn038085 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 08:42:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109083921.00b30d78@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 08:41:32 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: $25 per week In-Reply-To: <3FAE2CD7.C7BC6294@maynor.net> References: <60.378e539a.2cdeac26@aol.com> <001001c3a63b$07ef2420$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031108191503.00bcf630@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031108194350.00bbb3a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109002305.00bc7998@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >They vary by the size of the apartment, of course. I'm thinking that >back five or six years ago the smallest of the apartments was maybe in >the low $2,000s a month. -- Natalie That's what the smallest apartment at Birch Bay Village is now. I figure I could swing half of that with a wise investment of the money I'd make from selling this house. I could swing the other half from pension plus SS. The rent will go up in the next 22 years, of course. But hopefully so will the value of the house and the pension and SS, both of which have a COLA. Good morning everybody. I'm about an hour later than the early posters. But I'm here now. We have bright sunshine and 27 degrees with a wind chill of 19. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 08:12:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9EC66q017116 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 08:12:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 31D781E600A6; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 08:07:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 036721E600A3 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 08:07:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3AFAE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 8:59:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14273657 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 08:59:58 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9Dxwt15757 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 08:59:58 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20031109135952014005nhqhe>; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:59:52 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109055359.03c02b80@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 05:59:22 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: McJob In-Reply-To: <3FAE2B23.F1D132F2@maynor.net> References: <20031109042558.98805.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> <000f01c3a67b$90a7a540$e1cadece@0018079268> <724423272.20031108225159@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, >I guess I can see the possible down-side also -- like when a boss tells an >employee to go out and buy a new Xerox machine for the office, and the >employee comes back with a xerox machine made by IBM. That's bad, of course, but there is a worse down-side. A company can lose its trademark rights to a name if it becomes a generic word. Canonical examples are aspirin, zipper, escalator, nylon, cellophane, linoleum, etc. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 08:42:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9Eg16q017385 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 08:42:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 588541E600AA; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 08:37:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B23E1E600A8 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 08:37:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3AFF1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 9:29:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14274264 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:29:53 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9EJrt17343 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:19:53 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA9EJB3W029153 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:19:11 -0500 Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:19:53 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <3FADAFE7.1D47D259@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FAD18D6.A3115EC3@maynor.net> <3FAD8C54.CCA3FCF9@maynor.net> <3FADAFE7.1D47D259@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >investigative reporter and her estranged writer husband. Predictable, >happy ending, but I still like movies like that. Anyway, I will look >again at the Rule of Benedict later, but I would call such a group a >"religious group" -- even though they're . Iow, it's still a group >based on religious stuff. I'd like to live in a community that was not >religion-related. It would be in that individuals in the group would not necessarily be ordained. It would indeed be a spiritual group. (I'm not sure what you mean by , Natalie - RCs often use the word to mean .) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 08:44:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9Eiv6q017405 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 08:44:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 918FF1E600AB; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 08:39:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61E0E1E600AA for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 08:39:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B012@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 9:32:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14274358 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:32:49 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9EMnt17600 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:22:49 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA9EM73W029463 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:22:07 -0500 Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:22:48 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: $25 per week In-Reply-To: <3FADB475.1CD284E6@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <60.378e539a.2cdeac26@aol.com> <001001c3a63b$07ef2420$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031108191503.00bcf630@pop.gwi.net> <000d01c3a658$f2a15ca0$e1cadece@0018079268> <641178117.20031108184636@WordWrite.com> <3FAD8FE7.41E859C0@maynor.net> <1233996230.20031108200227@WordWrite.com> <3FADB475.1CD284E6@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I would live the same number of years whether I went for my annual >boob-and-crotch testing or I didn't. I've been sucked into the >mainstream idea that one should , so I do it. But I don't >think it matters much. Let's be serious. Many symptoms of cancer can be detected during a routine physical that would not be detected/acknowledged until much later by the patient. Case in point: my mother. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 08:49:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9EnW6q017454 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 08:49:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7150C1E600AC; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 08:44:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F2F91E600AB for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 08:44:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B000@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 9:37:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14274508 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:37:24 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9EROt17943 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:27:24 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA9EQg3W030027 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:26:42 -0500 Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:27:23 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I really don't mean to sound disrespectful or whatever, but I just don't >get this thing. I'm familiar with the concept -- that God > one to do something like retire to a secluded setting. But I >don't get why. Like what's the point? I don't have any problem >understanding the last part of what you said -- that you found those >hours/days good and therefore would feel comfortable living in such a >way. It's the part before that that I don't get -- "it's not that it is >itself attractive." Obviously I understand the point of doing lots of >things in life that we don't find . I'm a believer in doing >things that serve a worthy purpose, things that need to be done, whether >they are pleasant/attractive or not. But I don't quite see what purpose >is being served by the kind of life you're talking about. Like what >good is it doing for the world? I am very certain that prayer matters more than most things. The idea of monasticism is that one does Opus Dei - the work of God - by praying and by doing a certain amount of manual labor (about 6 hours a day). If I merely wanted to choose something attractive to me, I might remain an academic forever or move to a horse farm, etc. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 08:52:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9Eqc6q017493 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 08:52:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5C65B1E600C5; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 08:47:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E1911E600AC for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 08:47:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D9273@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 9:40:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14274733 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:40:30 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9EeUt18916 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:40:30 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA9EeTse010023 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 08:40:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 08:41:05 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <12210210137.20031109084105@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: mcedness In-Reply-To: References: <3FAD18D6.A3115EC3@maynor.net> <3FAD8C54.CCA3FCF9@maynor.net> <3FADAFE7.1D47D259@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 09, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > It would be in that individuals in the group would not necessarily > be ordained. It would indeed be a spiritual group. (I'm not sure what > you mean by , Natalie - RCs often use the word to mean > .) Why do RC's enter into it? Are you converting? I'm not currently RC, but when I left the church, lay religious were taking a larger and larger role. (Like giving communion.) So there's definitely that category of 'religious'. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 09:03:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9F3s6q017605 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:03:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 656061E600A3; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 08:58:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AA921E600A7 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 08:58:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B040@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 9:51:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14275038 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:51:46 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9Epkt19723 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:51:46 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109145141.PCRY1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:51:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAE547E.F2BFB378@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 08:51:42 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Have I asked this before? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This is something I've wondered about lately, but I don't think I've gotten around to asking it: Have construction vehicles always gone beepbeepbeep when backing up? Or if not , for a long time -- as in fifty or so years? It occurred to me at some point not long ago that that is a sound I don't think I associate with . And while we're on the subject of sounds, was it when they changed from sleek to boxy that ambulances in the U.S. changed their siren sound to what I had before that thought of as European-style siren sound? It seems to me it was around the time of the appearance change that there was the sound change. Did the shape change because of more portable equipment -- more devices that could ride in an ambulance and that fit better in the jeepish shape than into the old stationwagonish/hearsish shape? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 09:05:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9F5h6q017636 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:05:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6BAC91E602B6; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:00:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 399F21E602B5 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:00:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B046@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 9:53:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14275093 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:53:35 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9ErZt19843 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:53:35 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA9ErYk0008926 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:53:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FAE54A6.6000409@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 08:52:22 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: McJob References: <20031109042558.98805.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> <000f01c3a67b$90a7a540$e1cadece@0018079268> <724423272.20031108225159@WordWrite.com> <3FAE2B23.F1D132F2@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: > > >>Having a word with your name in it is a consequence of being part of >>pop culture. >> > > This is the kind of thing I've thought about re generic use of xerox, > etc. Seems to me that the Xerox people would consider it a compliment > and good publicity. I guess I can see the possible down-side also -- > like when a boss tells an employee to go out and buy a new Xerox machine > for the office, and the employee comes back with a xerox machine made by > IBM. The generic use of brand names is, I realize, not quite the same > as the McJob usage. No, they don't consider it good publicity because it puts them in danger of losing their trademark on the name. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 09:05:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9F5m6q017639 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:05:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DDCDF1E602B5; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:00:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B07041E602B4 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:00:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B02C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 9:53:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14275097 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:53:40 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9Erdt19848 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:53:39 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109145334.PDJW1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:53:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAE54EF.FDE67273@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 08:53:35 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: $25 per week References: <20031109023327.58785.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <106902293.20031108203905@WordWrite.com> <3FADB696.64844684@maynor.net> <867035718.20031108214810@WordWrite.com> <3FAE27A0.586ABAC9@maynor.net> <1567655670.20031109071714@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > >> > But it's not an either-or thing of house or retirement community. One > >> > can rent an apartment that is not in a retirement community but that > >> > doesn't have the maintenance hassle that home-ownership has. > >> > >> In theory, yes. Not always in practice. > > > Why not? > > Location, location, location. Housing stock varies. Hmm. I realize that housing stock varies, but I'm having trouble imagining a location that had more retirement/assisted-living complexes than ordinary apartments. I guess maybe in small towns (excluding college towns, of course, which are awash in apartments). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 09:11:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9FB56q017705 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:11:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6E64F1E600A7; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:06:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4055C1E600A3 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:06:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B055@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 9:58:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14275303 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:58:57 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9Ewvt20149 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:58:57 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109145852.PFIE1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:58:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAE562D.C0B736D1@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 08:58:53 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: $25 per week References: <60.378e539a.2cdeac26@aol.com> <001001c3a63b$07ef2420$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031108191503.00bcf630@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031108194350.00bbb3a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109002305.00bc7998@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109083921.00b30d78@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > That's what the smallest apartment at Birch Bay Village is now. I figure I > could swing half of that with a wise investment of the money I'd make from > selling this house. I could swing the other half from pension plus > SS. The rent will go up in the next 22 years, of course. But hopefully so > will the value of the house and the pension and SS, both of which have a COLA. That's pretty much my plan -- the general financial concept. Probably I won't ever sell my rental house since it will (I hope) continue to generate income greater than the money from selling it would be likely to. But I will sell this house (or whatever house I'm currently living in). I will count on pension, ss, and income from investments to pay for my elderly life. My agreed that my plan was sound (back when I asked her about long-term-care insurance). She said that I didn't need it. > Good morning everybody. I'm about an hour later than the early > posters. But I'm here now. We have bright sunshine and 27 degrees with a > wind chill of 19. It's a very pretty day here. Spencer has been running laps in the yard and protecting our home from squirrels and birds. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 09:14:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9FE96q017726 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:14:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 814F11E600C5; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:09:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 520181E600AE for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:09:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B068@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 10:02:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14275357 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:02:00 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9F20t20330 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:02:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109150155.PGLI1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:01:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAE56E4.1D8838D2@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 09:01:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: McJob References: <20031109042558.98805.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> <000f01c3a67b$90a7a540$e1cadece@0018079268> <724423272.20031108225159@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109055359.03c02b80@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > >I guess I can see the possible down-side also -- like when a boss tells an > >employee to go out and buy a new Xerox machine for the office, and the > >employee comes back with a xerox machine made by IBM. > > That's bad, of course, but there is a worse down-side. A company can lose > its trademark rights to a name if it becomes a generic word. Canonical > examples are aspirin, zipper, escalator, nylon, cellophane, linoleum, etc. Hmm. I hadn't thought of that. I would've thought that a trademark would stick. What about kleenex? Has it lost its trademark rights yet? Speaking of IBM (which was in my example above) but unrelated to this particular topic, how are ordinary people doing with IBM computers now that they're running Linux? I had always thought of Linux as mainly for computer geeks. Has it changed to something easier for ? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 09:19:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9FJo6q017750 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:19:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 520CC1E600A7; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:14:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23F121E600AE for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:14:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B073@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 10:07:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14275587 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:07:42 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9F7et20825 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:07:40 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109150735.PIIT1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:07:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAE5837.8786711A@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 09:07:35 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness References: <3FAD18D6.A3115EC3@maynor.net> <3FAD8C54.CCA3FCF9@maynor.net> <3FADAFE7.1D47D259@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >investigative reporter and her estranged writer husband. Predictable, > >happy ending, but I still like movies like that. The villain, btw, was Christopher Reeves -- the person I had never heard of until he became famous because of his accident and his wheelchair life. This was the first time I remember having seen him on legs. > > Anyway, I will look > >again at the Rule of Benedict later, but I would call such a group a > >"religious group" -- even though they're . Iow, it's still a group > >based on religious stuff. I'd like to live in a community that was not > >religion-related. > > It would be in that individuals in the group would not necessarily > be ordained. It would indeed be a spiritual group. (I'm not sure what > you mean by , Natalie - RCs often use the word to mean > .) I have never thought that the word religious meant ordained. I think of religious as a much larger term, including ordained ministers but also including lay people who are active in organized religion. "Spiritual" would not be a synonym for what I consider "religious," since I use "religious" when thinking of organized religion. "Spiritual" to me is much broader, including people who are not necessarily involved in organized religion. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 09:23:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9FNV6q017765 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:23:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D24291E600B2; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:18:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0B741E600A7 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:18:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B083@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 10:11:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14275735 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:11:22 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9FBMt21110 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:11:22 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109151117.PJTL1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:11:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAE5916.6513CCDF@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 09:11:18 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > I am very certain that prayer matters more than most things. The idea of > monasticism is that one does Opus Dei - the work of God - by praying and > by doing a certain amount of manual labor (about 6 hours a day). I don't have any problem seeing how manual labor can be useful, whether as part of supporting a community you're living in or for some other purpose. I guess it's the prayer part that Karen said people either get or don't get. (Actually, I think she said that about being "called," not necessarily about prayer.) Anyway, I don't really get it and probably never will. > If I merely wanted to choose something attractive to me, I might remain an > academic forever or move to a horse farm, etc. Yes, I got your point about not doing it because it was attractive but rather because you felt you should. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 09:30:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9FUQ6q017831 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:30:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EF6A01E600C5; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:25:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C13F51E600B2 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:25:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D92F7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 10:18:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14276022 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:18:18 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9FIHt21821 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:18:17 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109151812.PMAG1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:18:12 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAE5AB5.DA1ABF9B@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 09:18:13 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Speaking of Religion Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm about to order a book written by my friend and former dept head who was a priest earlier in life. Its a memoir he wrote for his family members, but several people urged him to have it published so that more people could read it. Here's the url for it: www.1stbooks.com/bookview/14981 He said that it will later be available from places like Amazon. This 1stBooks place is the publisher and prints copies upon receiving orders -- like when they get the order I'm about to send, they'll print my copy. Iow, this is not a high-powered book published by a top-notch press and expected to become a best-seller. None of that was his intention or hope in writing it. But I'm looking forward to reading it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 10:07:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9G7q6q018258 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:07:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 93CA91E602B4; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:02:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 612FB1E600B4 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:02:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D935D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 10:55:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14276816 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:55:36 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9Ftat24709 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:55:36 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-128.gwi.net [216.195.156.128]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA9FtYAr014572 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:55:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109105417.00ba6c60@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 10:55:52 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: References: <3FADAFE7.1D47D259@maynor.net> <3FAD18D6.A3115EC3@maynor.net> <3FAD8C54.CCA3FCF9@maynor.net> <3FADAFE7.1D47D259@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > It would indeed be a spiritual group. (I'm not sure what >you mean by , Natalie - RCs often use the word to mean >.) --Bethany Religious as a noun, used by Roman Catholics, does not mean ordained. Nuns and monks are not ordained. They have, however, taken vows. Priests are ordained. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 10:12:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9GCF6q018294 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:12:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DF0F61E602B4; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:07:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD0081E600B4 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:07:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B0FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 11:00:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14276933 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:00:07 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9G06t25180 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:00:06 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA9G068b023942 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:00:06 -0500 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.103]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA9G04fC015269 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:00:05 -0500 Message-ID: <004301c3a6da$8a6bfc80$677a8083@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3FAE547E.F2BFB378@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Have I asked this before? Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:00:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" > This is something I've wondered about lately, but I don't think I've > gotten around to asking it: Have construction vehicles always gone > beepbeepbeep when backing up? Or if not , for a long time -- as > in fifty or so years? It occurred to me at some point not long ago that > that is a sound I don't think I associate with . Hi Natalie!!! Good morning! ;-) I'll do my best "Pete" here... The OSHA standard pertinent to construction motor vehicles and heavy equipment operations, 29 CFR 1926, Subpart O, requires under provisions 29 CFR 1926.601(b)(4)(i) and 1926.602(a)(9)(ii) that all vehicles and heavy equipment having an obstructed view to the rear either be equipped with a reverse signal alarm (i.e., back-up alarm) or use a signalperson for reverse operations. It was published in 1979, and that serves my memory too; the beeping started in the late 70s. http://www.ilo.org/public/english/protection/safework/cis/legosh/usa/lx03629 4.htm HTH ... 'Warmth... 'Alan > And while we're on the subject of sounds, was it when they changed from > sleek to boxy that ambulances in the U.S. changed their siren sound to > what I had before that thought of as European-style siren sound? It > seems to me it was around the time of the appearance change that there > was the sound change. Did the shape change because of more portable > equipment -- more devices that could ride in an ambulance and that fit > better in the jeepish shape than into the old stationwagonish/hearsish > shape? > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 10:15:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9GFa6q018316 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:15:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CD9BB1E602B4; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:10:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 992F41E600B4 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:10:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B0FF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 11:03:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14277017 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:03:28 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9G3St25508 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:03:28 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D937C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 11:03:27 -0500 Message-Id: <200311091603.hA9G3St25508@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:03:27 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: mcedness To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:59:04 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >>Sounds like it -- an aspirant, I mean. Why exactly do you plan to live >>in a state of ? You might have mentioned that earlier, but I >>don't remember reading it. > >I'm not certain that I can explain it. I feel a calling to live in >community eventually. Or near community. What do I mean by near community? >A model was offered to me the last time I was at the Abbey of Gethsemani. >I spent some time with a female hermit who lives on the Abbey property. >She attends daily Mass, but little else with the community. I have thought >of asking to live on Abbey property - not as a hermit, though. I would >want to attend daily offices, use the library, etc. Or I could live near >the Abbey. > >There are also orders of which one may be an associate member - live on >the premises but live under fewer strictures than those chosen by full >members. > >The next few years will be in part a period of discernment about this - I >want to get to retirement with a clear plan, even if it is not a complete >plan. As part of the process, I may spend a summer at someplace like >Creighton University - possibly Summer 2005 - in their Spiritual Direction >program. > >Bethany This sounds to me like a very measured way to go about it. It raises "voluntary" to a new level - deliberate, or dedicated. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 10:24:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9GO76q018383 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:24:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A0C411E600B1; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:19:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F3471E600B0 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:19:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B11A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 11:11:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14277264 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:11:58 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9GBwt26433 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:11:58 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109161153.CEMQ1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:11:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAE674A.AC0C74D6@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 10:11:54 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Speaking of Health Care Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I find all these rules confusing: http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0311/09/m01.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 10:24:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9GOD6q018386 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:24:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1E0961E600B2; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:19:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E499C1E600B1 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:19:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B127@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 11:12:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14277268 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:12:04 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA9GC4t26472 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:12:04 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 08:11:55 PST Message-ID: <20031109161155.20467.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 08:11:55 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: $25 per week To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FAE562D.C0B736D1@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > It's a very pretty day here. Spencer has been > running laps in the yard > and protecting our home from squirrels and birds. Cloudy here, 58 degrees, airish. Jaysie pursues her protection duties as Spencer does. A responsibility she takes very seriously (and so does Spencer, I'll bet) is the mandatory crunching of dead leaves. It must be done with precision and optimal volume. Her paws are perfect leaf tools. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 10:25:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9GPM6q018393 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:25:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9D16C1E600B0; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:20:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7048D1E60099 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:20:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B11D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 11:13:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14277300 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:13:13 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9GDDt26575 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:13:13 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109161308.CETB1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:13:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAE6795.932654B7@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 10:13:09 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Have I asked this before? References: <3FAE547E.F2BFB378@maynor.net> <004301c3a6da$8a6bfc80$677a8083@awild4dj8f> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alan Wild wrote: > Hi Natalie!!! Good morning! ;-) Good morning, 'Al. > It was published in 1979, and that serves my memory too; the beeping started > in the late 70s. Thank you. That works with my memory. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 10:27:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9GRR6q018412 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:27:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A37551E600B1; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:22:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75B2E1E60099 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:22:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B115@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 11:15:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14277349 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:15:18 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9GFIt26744 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:15:18 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109161513.CFCS1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:15:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAE6812.C2FE1683@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 10:15:14 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: $25 per week References: <20031109161155.20467.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > she takes very seriously (and so does Spencer, I'll > bet) is the mandatory crunching of dead leaves. It > must be done with precision and optimal volume. Her > paws are perfect leaf tools. Oh yes. And then the leaves come inside on little dog paws -- actually rather large paws. Spencer is snoozing on his easy chair now, though, resting up for his next round of home protection and maintenance. I wish he's vacuum for me. I need to get into housecleaning, but I always hate vacuuming. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 10:37:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9Gb26q018484 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:37:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E49C71E600B1; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:32:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2AEF1E600B0 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:32:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B150@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 11:24:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14277725 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:24:53 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9GOqt27633 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:24:52 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-128.gwi.net [216.195.156.128]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA9GOpAr017906 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:24:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109112239.00ba3c20@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 11:25:09 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <3FAE5916.6513CCDF@maynor.net> References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I guess it's the prayer part that Karen said people either get >or don't get. (Actually, I think she said that about being "called," >not necessarily about prayer.) Anyway, I don't really get it and >probably never will. -- Natalie I was supposedly "called" and I don't get the concept either. I didn't hear anyone calling. It was me who made up my mind to go off to the convent. Nor have I ever heard anyone describe how they were called. Although, come to think of it, I do know one of my classmates who claims to actually have heard a voice in chapel after she was a full-fledged nun saying "Time To Go." She left. Now she does ballroom dancing and, the last time I saw her, was selling vitamins in some kind of pyramid scheme. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 10:39:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9Gd96q018490 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:39:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 065BA1E600B1; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:34:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAAAC1E600B2 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:34:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B156@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 11:27:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14277945 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:27:00 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9GQxt28083 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:26:59 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA9GQue6020553 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:26:58 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <003a01c3a6de$4a345500$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000801c3a662$a5c0fd00$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FADB21A.F3185C82@maynor.net> <000e01c3a679$031a1340$e1cadece@0018079268> <1763775848.20031108223105@WordWrite.com> <000601c3a67b$533cfd40$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FAE2A4B.6B87F72F@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: McJob Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:26:50 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > A quick google for mcjob produced this on Yahoo news: > > http://tinyurl.com/u9ve > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Thanks. That's where I read it. I had forgotten the reference to their own program called McJobs. And, of course, some people do find their work there not a dead end. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 10:51:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9Gp26q018570 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:51:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1CAD31E600B2; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:46:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEBB01E600B1 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:46:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B199@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 11:38:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14278357 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:38:53 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9Gcqt29166 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:38:53 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA9Gcke6012131 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:38:47 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <006301c3a6df$f171f100$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3FAE547E.F2BFB378@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Have I asked this before? Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:38:41 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > This is something I've wondered about lately, but I don't think I've > gotten around to asking it: Have construction vehicles always gone > beepbeepbeep when backing up? Or if not , for a long time -- as > in fifty or so years? It occurred to me at some point not long ago that > that is a sound I don't think I associate with . > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I love that beepbeepbeep because of an association. For years, in Honolulu, we were awakened every morning by the beepbeepbeep of the garbage trucks that serve the hotels. Then we would throw open the doors to the lanai and step out to marvel at the sight of the ocean and the sun rising over Diamondhead. Last January, however, the beepbeepbeep was gone. The new sleek trucks were silent. It seemed weird. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 10:59:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9Gxm6q018662 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:59:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 444D91E600C5; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:54:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C8C1E600B2 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:54:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B1AF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 11:47:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14278851 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:47:39 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9Gldt30337 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:47:39 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA9Glae6029129 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:47:38 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <006a01c3a6e1$2d45afe0$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3FAE547E.F2BFB378@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Have I asked this before? Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:47:34 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > And while we're on the subject of sounds, was it when they changed from > sleek to boxy that ambulances in the U.S. changed their siren sound to > what I had before that thought of as European-style siren sound? It > seems to me it was around the time of the appearance change that there > was the sound change. Did the shape change because of more portable > equipment -- more devices that could ride in an ambulance and that fit > better in the jeepish shape than into the old stationwagonish/hearsish > shape? > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I have not noticed new shapes here, but then I haven't thought about it. I have noticed, though, that ambulances have a gadget that allows them to change the traffic sign so they can go straight through. We had heard that some people have been able to get hold of gadgets like these. Yesterday Gene was at an intersection. The light turned green. He was just starting to move ahead when the light suddenly reverted to red and a car went through the intersection from the other direction. It was not a police or fire department car. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 11:41:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9Hft6q019053 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:41:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7D3F11E600B3; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:36:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F2881E600B1 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:36:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B211@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 12:29:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14279829 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:29:46 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9HTkt00597 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:29:46 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA9HTk8b025099 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:29:46 -0500 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.103]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA9HTifC023884 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:29:45 -0500 Message-ID: <006901c3a6e7$113ecb50$677a8083@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "Wordslurs" Subject: Hej!!! Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:29:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What's all this about the top democrats smoking pot? Not Clark? ;-) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 11:55:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9HtT6q019126 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:55:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 17F8C1E600B6; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:50:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D58281E600B5 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:50:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B232@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 12:43:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14280155 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:43:20 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA9HhKt01433 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:43:20 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 09:43:14 PST Message-ID: <20031109174314.20231.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:43:14 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Have I asked this before? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <006301c3a6df$f171f100$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > Last January, however, the beepbeepbeep was gone. > The new sleek trucks were silent. It seemed weird. How do they signal beepbeepbeep now? They have to say something, don't they? My dog needs a beepbeepbeep because she's too long and too wide to turn around. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 11:58:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9Hwf6q019135 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:58:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5F0341E600B6; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:53:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C2FE1E600B5 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:53:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B23A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 12:46:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14280238 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:46:32 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA9HkWt01685 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:46:32 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 09:46:27 PST Message-ID: <20031109174627.27829.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:46:27 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Have I asked this before? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <006a01c3a6e1$2d45afe0$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > We had heard that some people have been able > to get hold of gadgets like these. Yesterday Gene > was at an intersection. The light turned green. He > was just starting to move ahead when the light > suddenly reverted to red and a car went through > the intersection from the other direction. It was > not > a police or fire department car. - D. M. There is a frenzied debate being conducted regarding these devices, and they can't possibly continue in use if any old body can get "aholt" of them. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 12:00:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9I0C6q019149 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:00:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3AF6D1E600B5; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:55:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE4A1E600B3 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:55:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B24A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 12:48:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14280265 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:48:03 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA9Hm1t01809 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:48:02 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 09:47:56 PST Message-ID: <20031109174756.27340.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:47:56 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Hej!!! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <006901c3a6e7$113ecb50$677a8083@awild4dj8f> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Alan Wild wrote: > What's all this about the top democrats smoking pot? > > Not Clark? ;-) Is there a plank in the platform forbidding lowly democrats to indulge? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 12:00:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9I0k6q019153 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:00:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 119571E600B5; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:55:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D41081E600B3 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:55:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B257@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 12:48:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14280274 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:48:37 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9HmVt01833 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:48:32 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA9HmTe6013507 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:48:30 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000601c3a6e9$adff8220$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031109174314.20231.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: Have I asked this before? Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:48:26 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > --- Doris Markland wrote: > > Last January, however, the beepbeepbeep was gone. > > The new sleek trucks were silent. It seemed weird. > > > How do they signal beepbeepbeep now? They have to say > something, don't they? My dog needs a beepbeepbeep > because she's too long and too wide to turn around. > They can do it with a man outside the truck signalling. But that doesn't sound very modern, does it? I guess I'll just have to go back over there to observe and answer that question. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 12:01:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9I1r6q019158 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:01:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A2FD91E600B6; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:56:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 755E61E600B5 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:56:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B23E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 12:49:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14280300 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:49:43 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9Hnht01918 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:49:43 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA9Hnfe6016208 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:49:42 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000b01c3a6e9$d92e8040$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031109174627.27829.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: Have I asked this before? Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:49:39 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > --- Doris Markland wrote: > > We had heard that some people have been able > > to get hold of gadgets like these. Yesterday Gene > > was at an intersection. The light turned green. He > > was just starting to move ahead when the light > > suddenly reverted to red and a car went through > > the intersection from the other direction. It was > > not > > a police or fire department car. > > - D. M. > > There is a frenzied debate being conducted regarding > these devices, and they can't possibly continue in use > if any old body can get "aholt" of them. I googled and found I can buy one on the net for $109. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 12:02:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9I2j6q019164 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:02:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E46F31E600B6; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:57:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B623C1E600B5 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:57:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B23F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 12:50:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14280319 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:50:35 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA9HoZt01977 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:50:35 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 09:50:30 PST Message-ID: <20031109175030.21110.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:50:30 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Have I asked this before? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <000601c3a6e9$adff8220$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > > > > They can do it with a man outside the > truck signalling. But that doesn't sound > very modern, does it? > > I guess I'll just have to go back over there > to observe and answer that question. > > - D. M. It is not cost efficient. You are hereby appointed to investigate this situation ON THE SCENE. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 12:04:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9I4W6q019181 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:04:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5B01C1E600B5; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:59:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D9DD1E600B3 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:59:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B251@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 12:52:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14280351 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:52:15 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA9HqFt02094 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:52:15 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 09:52:10 PST Message-ID: <20031109175210.71082.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:52:10 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Have I asked this before? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <000b01c3a6e9$d92e8040$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > I googled and found I can buy one on the net > for $109. > > - D. M. That sort of availability is ridiculous. I hope the powers that be have something hovering in the wings to correct this. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 12:11:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9IBE6q019239 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:11:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 391631E600B7; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:06:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0797B1E600B6 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:06:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B24B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 12:59:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14280470 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:59:05 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9Hx5t02461 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:59:05 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA9Hwu2f032010 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:59:02 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA9HwrJC031992; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:58:54 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031109100030.00a8ba00@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 10:00:51 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Have I asked this before? In-Reply-To: <20031109174314.20231.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> References: <006301c3a6df$f171f100$e1cadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:43 AM 11/9/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Doris Markland wrote: > > Last January, however, the beepbeepbeep was gone. > > The new sleek trucks were silent. It seemed weird. > > >How do they signal beepbeepbeep now? They have to say >something, don't they? My dog needs a beepbeepbeep >because she's too long and too wide to turn around. Have you told us what kind of dog you have? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 12:12:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9IC46q019264 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:12:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 32A7C1E600B7; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:07:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0473E1E600B6 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:07:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B24C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 12:59:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14280482 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:59:55 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9Hxst02495 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:59:55 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA9HxpeO011383 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:59:51 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA9Hxka2011343; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:59:47 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031109100123.00a894d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 10:01:44 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Have I asked this before? In-Reply-To: <000601c3a6e9$adff8220$e1cadece@0018079268> References: <20031109174314.20231.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:48 AM 11/9/2003 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: > > --- Doris Markland wrote: > > > Last January, however, the beepbeepbeep was gone. > > > The new sleek trucks were silent. It seemed weird. > > > > > > How do they signal beepbeepbeep now? They have to say > > something, don't they? My dog needs a beepbeepbeep > > because she's too long and too wide to turn around. > > > >They can do it with a man outside the >truck signalling. But that doesn't sound >very modern, does it? > >I guess I'll just have to go back over there >to observe and answer that question. > > - D. M. It's your job and we expect a report back. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 12:26:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9IQR6q019396 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:26:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F1E781E600B7; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:21:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C31AB1E600B6 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:21:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B270@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 13:14:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14280746 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:14:18 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA9IEIt03507 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:14:18 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 10:14:12 PST Message-ID: <20031109181412.32247.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:14:12 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Have I asked this before? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031109100030.00a8ba00@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Betty wrote: > Have you told us what kind of dog you have? Basset __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 12:31:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9IV46q019429 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:31:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A00121E600BA; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:26:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 719861E600B9 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:26:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B280@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 13:18:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14280911 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:18:54 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9IIst03825 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:18:54 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA9IIs8b025766 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:18:54 -0500 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.103]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA9IIqfC028906 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:18:53 -0500 Message-ID: <008e01c3a6ed$ee1d6670$677a8083@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031109174756.27340.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: Hej!!! Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:18:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne Weber" > --- Alan Wild wrote: > > What's all this about the top democrats smoking pot? > > > > Not Clark? ;-) > > Is there a plank in the platform forbidding lowly > democrats to indulge? I might even join'em... 'give'em a sample of my 2am conversation. ;-P From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 12:52:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9Iqx6q019612 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:52:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 56F9A1E600BC; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:47:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28BFD1E600B7 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:47:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B2B5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 13:40:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14281546 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:40:49 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9Ient05355 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:40:49 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109184043.TNEM1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:40:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAE8A2C.7F67B647@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 12:40:44 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109112239.00ba3c20@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > I was supposedly "called" and I don't get the concept either. I didn't > hear anyone calling. It was me who made up my mind to go off to the What do you mean by supposedly? Supposed by the authorities? Like you had to tell them you'd been called when you chose to enter? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 12:53:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9Irl6q019616 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:53:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 907881E600BB; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:48:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62BB71E600B7 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:48:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B2D6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 13:41:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14281597 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:41:37 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9Ifbt05436 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:41:37 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109184132.TNIU1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:41:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAE8A5D.DDAC7ED8@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 12:41:33 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: McJob References: <000801c3a662$a5c0fd00$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FADB21A.F3185C82@maynor.net> <000e01c3a679$031a1340$e1cadece@0018079268> <1763775848.20031108223105@WordWrite.com> <000601c3a67b$533cfd40$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FAE2A4B.6B87F72F@maynor.net> <003a01c3a6de$4a345500$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > Thanks. That's where I read it. I had forgotten the > reference to their own program called McJobs. I can see how the name thing would be a problem with them. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 12:57:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9IvT6q019656 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:57:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4BCFE1E600BE; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:52:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E5A81E600BC for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:52:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D94FC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 13:45:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14281744 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:45:19 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9IjJt05815 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:45:19 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109184513.TNZR1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:45:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAE8B3A.6635C822@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 12:45:14 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Have I asked this before? References: <3FAE547E.F2BFB378@maynor.net> <006a01c3a6e1$2d45afe0$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > I have not noticed new shapes here, but then > I haven't thought about it. I'm not talking about new in recent history -- but new since my childhood. The ambulances of my childhood looked pretty much like hearses except that hearses were black and ambulances white. And the sirens weren't the updownupdownupdown -- they weren't exactly monotone -- the pitch didn't stay exactly the same, but it was more of a gradual and slight pitch change -- sounded more like a wail. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 12:59:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9IxC6q019671 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:59:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D78A21E600BB; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:54:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A626D1E600B7 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:54:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B2DF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 13:47:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14281787 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:47:03 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9Il2t05941 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:47:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109184657.TOIJ1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:46:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAE8BA2.CA1A93AC@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 12:46:58 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hej!!! References: <006901c3a6e7$113ecb50$677a8083@awild4dj8f> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alan Wild wrote: > > What's all this about the top democrats smoking pot? > > Not Clark? ;-) I don't know about the all this. I read that somebody asked that question at a debate and that some said yes and some no, except for CMBraun, who said she wasn't telling. I can't remember now exactly which ones said which. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 13:00:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9J0u6q019676 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:00:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EF2C71E600BB; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:55:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B44CE1E600B7 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:55:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B2F8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 13:48:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14281430 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:48:47 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9Iclt05157 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:38:47 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA9Ic33W002620 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:38:05 -0500 Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:38:44 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <3FAE5916.6513CCDF@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <3FAE5916.6513CCDF@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> If I merely wanted to choose something attractive to me, I might remain an >> academic forever or move to a horse farm, etc. > >Yes, I got your point about not doing it because it was attractive but >rather because you felt you should. You still do not get it. It's not at all about . Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 13:02:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9J206q019691 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:02:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C44981E600BE; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:56:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C301E600BC for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:56:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B2ED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 13:49:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14282082 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:49:50 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9Inot06637 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:49:50 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109184945.TOXJ1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:49:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAE8C4A.BE502D5B@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 12:49:46 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Have I asked this before? References: <006301c3a6df$f171f100$e1cadece@0018079268> <4.2.2.20031109100030.00a8ba00@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > > At 09:43 AM 11/9/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > >because she's too long and too wide to turn around. > > Have you told us what kind of dog you have? Yes. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 13:04:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9J416q019697 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:04:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E03B11E600C1; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:59:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA85F1E600BE for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:59:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B2F3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 13:51:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14282155 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:51:51 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9Ippt06821 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:51:51 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109185146.TPHN1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:51:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAE8CC3.B84BCDE6@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 12:51:47 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <3FAE5916.6513CCDF@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >Yes, I got your point about not doing it because it was attractive but > >rather because you felt you should. > > You still do not get it. It's not at all about . Well, if you don't find it attractive and don't feel that you do it, then I certainly don't get it. It seems pointless. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 13:07:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9J7H6q019718 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:07:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8E37C1E600BB; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:02:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E1C41E600C1 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:02:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B318@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 13:55:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14282252 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:55:04 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9It4t07083 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:55:04 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA9It1e6011729 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:55:02 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000c01c3a6f2$f9aa7460$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031109175030.21110.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: Have I asked this before? Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:54:59 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > --- Doris Markland wrote: > > > > > > > They can do it with a man outside the > > truck signalling. But that doesn't sound > > very modern, does it? > > > > I guess I'll just have to go back over there > > to observe and answer that question. > > > > - D. M. > > It is not cost efficient. You are hereby appointed to > investigate this situation ON THE SCENE. Got my bag, I got my reservation, spent each dime I could afford. Like a child in wild anticipation long to hear that 'All aboard'. . . . - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 13:10:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9JAM6q019732 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:10:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4439F1E600BB; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:05:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 168461E6009E for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:05:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B322@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 13:58:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14282327 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:58:12 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9IwCt07280 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:58:12 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA9Iw9e6017158 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:58:10 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002501c3a6f3$69e53a80$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <3FAE5916.6513CCDF@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: mcedness Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:58:07 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >> If I merely wanted to choose something attractive to me, I might remain an > >> academic forever or move to a horse farm, etc. > > > >Yes, I got your point about not doing it because it was attractive but > >rather because you felt you should. > > You still do not get it. It's not at all about . > > Bethany It's perhaps like being hungry . . and going where there's food. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 13:10:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9JAS6q019735 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:10:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EBEE01E600BB; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:05:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDFF41E6009E for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:05:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D953B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 13:58:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14282334 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:58:18 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9IwHt07291 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:58:17 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA9IwGk0013357 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:58:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FAE8E00.8@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 12:57:04 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <3FAE5916.6513CCDF@maynor.net> <3FAE8CC3.B84BCDE6@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > >>>Yes, I got your point about not doing it because it was attractive but >>>rather because you felt you should. >>> >>You still do not get it. It's not at all about . >> > > Well, if you don't find it attractive and don't feel that you > do it, then I certainly don't get it. It seems pointless. It's more like you want to do it, even though it doesn't seem like the type of thing you usually want to do. Some people actually hear a voice. For me, it's more like an idea that won't go away and grows into a strong desire. Sorta like schizophrenia. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 13:22:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9JM26q019822 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:22:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B94751E600BB; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:17:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8842A1E600B8 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:17:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B32F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 14:09:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14282605 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:09:52 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA9J9qt08132 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:09:52 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 11:09:47 PST Message-ID: <20031109190947.39639.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:09:47 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: mcedness To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FAE8E00.8@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Rita Chapman wrote: > It's more like you want to do it, even > though it doesn't seem > like the type of thing you usually want to do. Some > people > actually hear a voice. For me, it's more like an > idea that > won't go away and grows into a strong desire. Sorta > like > schizophrenia. This is a cool explanation. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 13:23:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9JNC6q019827 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:23:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D12E41E600C2; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:18:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A20961E600C1 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:18:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B327@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 14:11:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14282652 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:11:02 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA9JB2t08269 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:11:02 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 11:10:57 PST Message-ID: <20031109191057.39896.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:10:57 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: mcedness To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <002501c3a6f3$69e53a80$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > It's perhaps like being hungry > . . and going where there's food. This is even cooler! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 13:25:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9JPs6q019884 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:25:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6F71A1E600B8; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:20:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40B1C1E6000F for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:20:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B339@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 14:13:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14282707 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:13:44 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9JDit08464 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:13:44 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA9JDge6016778 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:13:43 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002401c3a6f5$956db860$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Espanillegal Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:13:39 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hA9JPs6q019884 In response to a couple of recent posts, it occurs to me along with suing companies who underpay them (in exchange for not reporting them?), illegals will soon be suing hospitals if they quit giving them the free treatment they are accustomed to. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 13:35:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9JZX6q019962 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:35:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 242FD1E600B8; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:30:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E825C1E6009E for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:30:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B364@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 14:23:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14283004 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:23:23 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9JNNt09372 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:23:23 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109192317.NUIU1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:23:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAE9426.1CC72548@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 13:23:18 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <3FAE5916.6513CCDF@maynor.net> <3FAE8CC3.B84BCDE6@maynor.net> <3FAE8E00.8@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > > Well, if you don't find it attractive and don't feel that you > > do it, then I certainly don't get it. It seems pointless. > It's more like you want to do it, even though it doesn't seem > like the type of thing you usually want to do. Some people > actually hear a voice. For me, it's more like an idea that > won't go away and grows into a strong desire. Sorta like > schizophrenia. Ok. I see where the communication problem has been. To me *desiring* something is being *attracted* to it -- it is attractive to me. I can understand a desire for something that seems not at all like the type of thing I usually desire. I know I've mentioned before that I've never much liked bagels and certainly not for breakfast. I might have mentioned the odd thing during my travels last summer when I found myself feeling a huge desire for bagels and cream cheese for breakfast (and acting on that desire). But I would also word that as surprisingly feeling a huge *attraction* to bagels and cream cheese. I've also had that experience with various activities -- suddenly being drawn to do something that seems not like the kind of thing I usually want to do. It has happened to me often. But, as I said, I think of that as being *attracted* -- of finding something attractive that I am surprised at feeling attracted by. I guess I have been . (And I have normally answered the call and done whatever it was.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 13:36:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9Ja96q019965 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:36:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 575251E6009E; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:31:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 245ED1E6000F for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:31:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B35A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 14:23:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14283026 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:23:59 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9JNxt09407 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:23:59 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109192354.NUMY1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:23:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAE944A.E206D7ED@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 13:23:54 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <3FAE5916.6513CCDF@maynor.net> <002501c3a6f3$69e53a80$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > It's perhaps like being hungry > . . and going where there's food. When I am hungry, food attracts me. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 13:37:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9Jb66q019970 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:37:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 37AF61E600B8; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:32:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08EF91E6009E for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:32:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B367@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 14:24:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14283038 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:24:56 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9JOut09448 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:24:56 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109192450.NUSV1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:24:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAE9483.89B79AD4@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 13:24:51 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness References: <20031109190947.39639.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > This is a cool explanation. Yes, and a helpful one. Where I had been lost, I now am found. I understand. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 13:39:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9Jdg6q019986 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:39:42 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4ECB91E6009E; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:34:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CB161E6000F for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:34:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B35F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 14:27:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14283083 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:27:32 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9JRWt09612 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:27:32 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA9JRTe6009988 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:27:30 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000801c3a6f7$82c223c0$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <3FAE5916.6513CCDF@maynor.net> <3FAE8CC3.B84BCDE6@maynor.net> <3FAE8E00.8@swbell.net> <3FAE9426.1CC72548@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: mcedness Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:27:27 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > It's more like you want to do it, even though it doesn't seem > > like the type of thing you usually want to do. Some people > > actually hear a voice. For me, it's more like an idea that > > won't go away and grows into a strong desire. Sorta like > > schizophrenia. > > Ok. I see where the communication problem has been. To me *desiring* > something is being *attracted* to it -- it is attractive to me. I can > understand a desire for something that seems not at all like the type of > thing I usually desire. I know I've mentioned before that I've never > much liked bagels and certainly not for breakfast. I might have > mentioned the odd thing during my travels last summer when I found > myself feeling a huge desire for bagels and cream cheese for breakfast > (and acting on that desire). But I would also word that as surprisingly > feeling a huge *attraction* to bagels and cream cheese. I've also had > that experience with various activities -- suddenly being drawn to do > something that seems not like the kind of thing I usually want to do. > It has happened to me often. But, as I said, I think of that as being > *attracted* -- of finding something attractive that I am surprised at > feeling attracted by. I guess I have been . (And I have > normally answered the call and done whatever it was.) > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) People who answer spiritual callings are not prompted by intellectual reasoning. They would never make things this complicated. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 13:39:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9Jdk6q019990 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:39:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E203D1E6009E; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:34:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF6A91E6000F for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:34:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B36C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 14:27:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14283087 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:27:36 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9JRZt09620 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:27:35 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109192730.NVPA1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:27:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAE9523.DF297FAC@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 13:27:31 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Espanillegal References: <002401c3a6f5$956db860$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > In response to a couple of recent posts, > it occurs to me along with suing companies > who underpay them (in exchange for not > reporting them?), illegals will soon be suing > hospitals if they quit giving them the free > treatment they are accustomed to. This is the topic I brought up several weeks ago, saying that I found it a complicated and confusing topic. Iirc, somebody said that we shouldn't discuss it because it was pointless since everybody would say predictable things. (My perhaps incorrect memory is that it was Rashmi who said that.) So I did not try to push it. But I still find it complicated and confusing and don't know what the right answers are to the various questions. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 13:40:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9Jei6q019994 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:40:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DA9001E600B8; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:35:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A88351E6009E for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:35:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B370@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 14:28:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14283130 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:28:33 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9JSXt09709 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:28:33 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA9JSQe6011769 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:28:32 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000f01c3a6f7$a77e21a0$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031109190947.39639.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <3FAE9483.89B79AD4@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: mcedness Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:28:23 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > This is a cool explanation. > > Yes, and a helpful one. Where I had been lost, I now am found. I > understand. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Amazing, Grace. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 13:50:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9Jo96q020115 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:50:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5F6CD1E600C2; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:45:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CF181E600B8 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:45:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B368@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 14:37:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14283341 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:37:59 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9Jbxt10478 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:37:59 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-128.gwi.net [216.195.156.128]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA9JbvGn069333 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:37:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109143728.00bafbe0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 14:38:16 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <3FAE8A2C.7F67B647@maynor.net> References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109112239.00ba3c20@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >What do you mean by supposedly? Supposed by the authorities? Like you >had to tell them you'd been called when you chose to enter? > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Yes, authorities. They told me. My eighth grade nun told me mother that she thought "Bonnie has a calling." bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 13:53:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9JrA6q020158 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:53:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1065D1E600B8; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:48:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6E251E6000F for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:48:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B38E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 14:41:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14283484 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:41:00 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9Jext10812 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:41:00 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-128.gwi.net [216.195.156.128]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA9JewGn069501 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:40:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109143927.00b3e2d0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 14:41:16 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <3FAE8E00.8@swbell.net> References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <3FAE5916.6513CCDF@maynor.net> <3FAE8CC3.B84BCDE6@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > It's more like you want to do it, even though it doesn't seem >like the type of thing you usually want to do. Some people >actually hear a voice. For me, it's more like an idea that >won't go away and grows into a strong desire. Sorta like >schizophrenia. --Rita Rouvalis Chapman Ah, now I get it. I feel called to the rowing machine. It doesn't really sound attractive. I don't think I really have to or ought to do it. But yet it calls to me. This afternoon I answered that call. bonnie, 1500 meters average of 2:25.9 per 500. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 13:56:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9Ju96q020202 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:56:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B392@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 14:43:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14283519 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:43:26 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9JhQt10959 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:43:26 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA9JhNe6008409 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:43:24 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000801c3a6f9$bb6c2480$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <002401c3a6f5$956db860$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FAE9523.DF297FAC@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Espanillegal Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:43:21 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" To: Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 1:27 PM Subject: Re: Espanillegal > Doris Markland wrote: > > > > In response to a couple of recent posts, > > it occurs to me along with suing companies > > who underpay them (in exchange for not > > reporting them?), illegals will soon be suing > > hospitals if they quit giving them the free > > treatment they are accustomed to. > > This is the topic I brought up several weeks ago, saying that I found it > a complicated and confusing topic. Iirc, somebody said that we > shouldn't discuss it because it was pointless since everybody would say > predictable things. (My perhaps incorrect memory is that it was Rashmi > who said that.) So I did not try to push it. But I still find it > complicated and confusing and don't know what the right answers are to > the various questions. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Confusing is right. There seems to be no quota, no restrictions, no requirements. And this did not just start recently. Have we not had laws enforced in prior years? Where did it break down? Why do other countries police their borders but ours have turned to jelly? Is it the heat from the melting pot? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 13:56:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9Jud6q020206 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:56:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BD7991E600B8; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:51:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C0461E6000F for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:51:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B37B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 14:44:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14283550 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:44:28 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9JiSt11016 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:44:28 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA9JiQe6010434 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:44:27 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000f01c3a6f9$e0a541a0$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109112239.00ba3c20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109143728.00bafbe0@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: Re: mcedness Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:44:23 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >What do you mean by supposedly? Supposed by the authorities? Like you > >had to tell them you'd been called when you chose to enter? > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > Yes, authorities. They told me. My eighth grade nun told me mother that > she thought "Bonnie has a calling." > > > bonnie Bonnie, are you Irish? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 13:57:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9Jvw6q020211 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:57:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D22491E600B8; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:52:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F8D21E6000F for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:52:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B398@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 14:45:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14283571 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:45:47 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9Jjlt11101 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:45:47 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA9JjHVs026036 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:45:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FAE9922.50204@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 13:44:34 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <3FAE5916.6513CCDF@maynor.net> <3FAE8CC3.B84BCDE6@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109143927.00b3e2d0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: >> It's more like you want to do it, even though it doesn't seem >> like the type of thing you usually want to do. Some people >> actually hear a voice. For me, it's more like an idea that >> won't go away and grows into a strong desire. Sorta like >> schizophrenia. --Rita Rouvalis Chapman > > > Ah, now I get it. I feel called to the rowing machine. It doesn't really > sound attractive. I don't think I really have to or ought to do it. But > yet it calls to me. This afternoon I answered that call. My schizophrenia is concerned with things that are a little different than a workout or a bagel, but have it your way. It's your McCalling. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 13:58:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9Jwf6q020214 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:58:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 85FAD1E600C1; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:53:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 551C51E6000F for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:53:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D95B3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 14:46:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14283578 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:46:31 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9JkVt11136 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:46:31 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA9JkNe6013477 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:46:30 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001401c3a6fa$297d05c0$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <3FAE5916.6513CCDF@maynor.net> <3FAE8CC3.B84BCDE6@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109143927.00b3e2d0@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: Re: mcedness Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:46:20 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Ah, now I get it. I feel called to the rowing machine. It doesn't really > sound attractive. I don't think I really have to or ought to do it. But > yet it calls to me. This afternoon I answered that call. > > > bonnie, 1500 meters average of 2:25.9 per 500. I felt a calling to the ironing board. It was Garrison Keillor calling. He often entertains me on Sunday afternoon while I press a few things. (Sunday re-run of Saturday's Prairie Home Companion). - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 14:39:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9Kdf6q020564 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:39:42 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 34A701E600B8; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:34:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 073781E6000F for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:34:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B3F1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 15:27:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14284616 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:27:31 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9KRVt14304 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:27:31 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hA9KRRvi025321 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:27:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:28:01 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <524898257.20031109142801@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Have I asked this before? In-Reply-To: <3FAE547E.F2BFB378@maynor.net> References: <3FAE547E.F2BFB378@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 09, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > This is something I've wondered about lately, but I don't think I've > gotten around to asking it: Have construction vehicles always gone > beepbeepbeep when backing up? No. I was shocked when I found out that Japanese trucks did this--and then when I came back to the US, or soon after, American trucks started doing it. I went to Japan in 1973. > And while we're on the subject of sounds, was it when they changed from > sleek to boxy that ambulances in the U.S. changed their siren sound to > what I had before that thought of as European-style siren sound? It > seems to me it was around the time of the appearance change that there > was the sound change. Did the shape change because of more portable > equipment -- more devices that could ride in an ambulance and that fit > better in the jeepish shape than into the old stationwagonish/hearsish > shape? I don't ever remember ambulances being 'sleek'. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 14:40:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9KeI6q020568 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:40:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B8EB01E600C4; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:35:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 896E71E600C2 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:35:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B3FE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 15:28:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14284627 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:28:07 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9KS7t14353 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:28:07 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA9KS6sg021790 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:28:07 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:28:41 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1361401692.20031109142841@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: McJob In-Reply-To: <3FAE54A6.6000409@swbell.net> References: <20031109042558.98805.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> <000f01c3a67b$90a7a540$e1cadece@0018079268> <724423272.20031108225159@WordWrite.com> <3FAE2B23.F1D132F2@maynor.net> <3FAE54A6.6000409@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 09, 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > No, they don't consider it good publicity because it puts > them in danger of losing their trademark on the name. Right--but with McJob, there's no one to sue. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 14:45:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9Kj16q020605 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:45:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 637611E600C4; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:39:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 308651E6000F for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:39:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B41F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 15:32:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14285004 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:32:50 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9KWot15344 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:32:50 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hA9KWlvi027878 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:32:48 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:33:22 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1316894051.20031109143322@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Have I asked this before? In-Reply-To: <006a01c3a6e1$2d45afe0$e1cadece@0018079268> References: <3FAE547E.F2BFB378@maynor.net> <006a01c3a6e1$2d45afe0$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 09, 2003, Doris Markland wrote: > We had heard that some people have been able > to get hold of gadgets like these. Yesterday Gene > was at an intersection. The light turned green. He > was just starting to move ahead when the light > suddenly reverted to red and a car went through > the intersection from the other direction. It was not > a police or fire department car. I've seen ads for these. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 14:47:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9Klk6q020621 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:47:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 494E31E600C7; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:42:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 177AD1E600C4 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:42:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D9643@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 15:35:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14285062 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:35:27 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9KZRt15639 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:35:27 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA9KZQsg025759 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:35:27 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:36:01 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <4110204884.20031109143601@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: mcedness In-Reply-To: <3FAE8E00.8@swbell.net> References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <3FAE5916.6513CCDF@maynor.net> <3FAE8CC3.B84BCDE6@maynor.net> <3FAE8E00.8@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 09, 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > It's more like you want to do it, even though it doesn't seem > like the type of thing you usually want to do. Some people > actually hear a voice. For me, it's more like an idea that > won't go away and grows into a strong desire. Sorta like > schizophrenia. Yes! Very good description, down to the schizophrenia part. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 14:48:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9KmR6q020637 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:48:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 74BC21E600C4; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:43:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46DF11E6000F for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:43:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B40F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 15:36:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14284568 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:36:16 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA9KQFt14145 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:26:15 -0500 Received: (qmail 90941 invoked by uid 1003); 9 Nov 2003 20:26:14 -0000 Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:26:14 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Espanillegal Message-ID: <20031109202614.GA86992@words-l.org> References: <002401c3a6f5$956db860$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FAE9523.DF297FAC@maynor.net> <000801c3a6f9$bb6c2480$e1cadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000801c3a6f9$bb6c2480$e1cadece@0018079268> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 01:43:21PM -0600, Doris Markland wrote: > Why do other countries police their borders but ours have turned to > jelly? Is it the heat from the melting pot? The democrats did it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 14:54:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9KsY6q020728 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:54:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 84B271E600C8; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:49:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53DCF1E600C7 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:49:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B429@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 15:42:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14285268 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:42:23 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9KgNt16473 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:42:23 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA9KgMoe007988 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:42:22 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FAEA666.90309@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 14:41:10 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Espanillegal References: <002401c3a6f5$956db860$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FAE9523.DF297FAC@maynor.net> <000801c3a6f9$bb6c2480$e1cadece@0018079268> <20031109202614.GA86992@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 01:43:21PM -0600, Doris Markland wrote: > >>Why do other countries police their borders but ours have turned to >>jelly? Is it the heat from the melting pot? >> > > The democrats did it. No, it was the RR's and their guns and immoral ways! -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 14:58:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9KwN6q020749 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:58:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 207241E600C8; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:53:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6AF81E600C7 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:53:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B437@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 15:46:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14285385 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:46:13 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9KkCt16874 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:46:13 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA9KkCsg003258 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:46:12 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:46:46 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <37716207.20031109144646@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: mcedness In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109143927.00b3e2d0@pop.gwi.net> References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <3FAE5916.6513CCDF@maynor.net> <3FAE8CC3.B84BCDE6@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109143927.00b3e2d0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 09, 2003, bonniev wrote: >> It's more like you want to do it, even though it doesn't seem >>like the type of thing you usually want to do. Some people >>actually hear a voice. For me, it's more like an idea that >>won't go away and grows into a strong desire. Sorta like >>schizophrenia. --Rita Rouvalis Chapman > Ah, now I get it. I feel called to the rowing machine. It doesn't really > sound attractive. I don't think I really have to or ought to do it. But > yet it calls to me. This afternoon I answered that call. > bonnie, 1500 meters average of 2:25.9 per 500. "Addiction" is not the same thing as "calling". Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 14:59:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9Kxh6q020759 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:59:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 51CC01E600C7; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:54:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24AC61E600C4 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:54:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B438@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 15:47:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14285404 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:47:32 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9KlVt17003 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:47:32 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id E7BEA2B582; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:47:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DACAA2B8EE for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:47:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:47:30 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: my ghosty image Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU is on the back of the boxed set "Music from the Once Festival 1961 1966." If you look at it, you can't miss me, because I'm the girl. But I don't know if this set is in any stores - well maybe in New York, maybe Berkeley, maybe Ann Arbor. Period. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 15:00:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9L0X6q020763 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:00:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 50CCA1E600C8; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:55:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 226971E600C7 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:55:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B439@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 15:48:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14285422 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:48:22 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9KmMt17100 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:48:22 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA9KmLsg004694 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:48:21 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:48:56 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <133793647.20031109144856@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: mcedness In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109112239.00ba3c20@pop.gwi.net> References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109112239.00ba3c20@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 09, 2003, bonniev wrote: > I was supposedly "called" and I don't get the concept either. I didn't > hear anyone calling. It was me who made up my mind to go off to the > convent. You wouldn't be the first nun who had no vocation. > Nor have I ever heard anyone describe how they were > called. Hm. I take it you haven't sought this out? > Although, come to think of it, I do know one of my classmates who > claims to actually have heard a voice in chapel after she was a > full-fledged nun saying "Time To Go." She left. Now she does ballroom > dancing and, the last time I saw her, was selling vitamins in some kind of > pyramid scheme. Cool. Is she happy? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 15:03:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9L366q020783 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:03:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BB6031E600C7; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:58:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89D9F1E600C4 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:58:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B439@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 15:50:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14285540 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:50:55 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9Kott17367 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:50:55 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA9Kossg006225 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:50:55 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:51:29 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1678141086.20031109145129@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: my ghosty image In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 09, 2003, Ann Borkin wrote: > is on the back of the boxed set "Music from the Once Festival 1961 1966." > If you look at it, you can't miss me, because I'm the girl. But I don't > know if this set is in any stores - well maybe in New York, maybe > Berkeley, maybe Ann Arbor. Period. You're a *STAR*!!!!! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 15:17:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9LHI6q020932 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:17:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 234C21E600CB; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:12:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCFDE1E600CA for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:12:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B484@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 16:05:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14285987 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:05:07 -0500 Received: from flex.com (flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9L55t19063 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:05:06 -0500 Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA9L4tvd076977 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:05:03 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from mem@flex.com) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 11:05:14 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: my ghosty image Reply-To: mem@flex.com Message-ID: <3FAE1F6A.28115.5C53F0@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-Flex-Prefilter-Spam-Score: 0 () X-Flex-Loose-Spamcheck: NO X-Flex-Scan: Flexnet Mimedefang/Clamd Virii Checker - PASSED - No Virus Found Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 9 Nov 2003 at 12:47, Ann Borkin wrote: > If you look at it, you can't miss me, because I'm the girl. But I > don't know if this set is in any stores - well maybe in New York, > maybe Berkeley, maybe Ann Arbor. Period. It's available from a number of on-line sources, including Amazon. Pricey. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 15:30:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9LUs6q021039 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:30:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9F7B71E600CC; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:25:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64C221E600CB for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:25:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B488@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 16:18:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14286253 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:18:43 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9LIht20649 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:18:43 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA9LIg8b028527 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:18:42 -0500 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.105]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA9LIMfC016848 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:18:34 -0500 Message-ID: <002401c3a707$0cf21ff0$697a8083@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: my ghosty image Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:18:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Copy it so we can see it! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Borkin" To: Sent: Sunday, 09 November, 2003 3:47 PM Subject: my ghosty image > is on the back of the boxed set "Music from the Once Festival 1961 1966." > > If you look at it, you can't miss me, because I'm the girl. But I don't > know if this set is in any stores - well maybe in New York, maybe > Berkeley, maybe Ann Arbor. Period. > > Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 15:36:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9LaG6q021066 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:36:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3D59F1E600CC; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:31:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A2F81E600C9 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:31:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D96D4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 16:24:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14286419 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:24:05 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9LO4t21348 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:24:04 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA9LO4oe001076 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:24:04 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FAEB02B.4090405@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 15:22:51 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words-l Subject: Cool anniversary present Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU For our 9th -- a hand/custom made red oak bookcase. It's extremely nice. And just when I was wondering where I was going to shelve the latest shipment from Amazon when I'm done reading it ;). Ana's books are also getting out of control. It's gorgeous, and just the right height to display the books from Alyce properly. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 15:40:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9Lev6q021101 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:40:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ADEE91E600CE; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:35:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A1311E600CC for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:35:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B4B8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 16:28:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14286507 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:28:46 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9LSkt21886 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:28:46 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA9LSjSf025122 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:28:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:29:19 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1921197279.20031109152919@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cool anniversary present In-Reply-To: <3FAEB02B.4090405@swbell.net> References: <3FAEB02B.4090405@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 09, 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > For our 9th -- a hand/custom made red oak bookcase. It's > extremely nice. And just when I was wondering where I was > going to shelve the latest shipment from Amazon when I'm > done reading it ;). Ana's books are also getting out of > control. It's gorgeous, and just the right height to > display the books from Alyce properly. Is red oak just a Missouri thing? It's such a beautiful wood. I am gelous! Happy Anniversary, too.:) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 15:42:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9LgZ6q021146 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:42:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7E9551E600CE; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:37:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C89A1E600CB for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:37:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B4B9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 16:30:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14286524 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:30:24 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9LUOt21970 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:30:24 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109213019.PGXY1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:30:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAEB1EC.AA185AA7@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 15:30:20 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <3FAE5916.6513CCDF@maynor.net> <3FAE8CC3.B84BCDE6@maynor.net> <3FAE8E00.8@swbell.net> <3FAE9426.1CC72548@maynor.net> <000801c3a6f7$82c223c0$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > People who answer spiritual callings are > not prompted by intellectual reasoning. > They would never make things this > complicated. It's not complicated at all now that I understand what the problem was. Nor is there anything involving intellectual reasoning -- or at least nothing beyond very minor thinking. The problem was that when Bethany said it was not something she found "attractive," I didn't understand that she meant it's not the type thing that she's normally attracted by. Now it seems rather simple really: You have a strong urge to do something that seems surprising to you since it's not something you would have thought you would feel a strong urge to do. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 15:43:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9Lh66q021149 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:43:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D9B201E600CC; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:38:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAD071E600CB for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:38:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B49F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 16:30:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14286537 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:30:55 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9LUtt22009 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:30:55 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109213050.PHCG1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:30:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAEB20B.63AB36CB@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 15:30:51 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness References: <20031109190947.39639.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <3FAE9483.89B79AD4@maynor.net> <000f01c3a6f7$a77e21a0$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > Yes, and a helpful one. Where I had been lost, I now am found. I > > understand. > > -- > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > Amazing, Grace. > > - D. M. :-) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 15:46:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9Lk16q021173 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:46:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 93D1F1E600CC; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:40:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F3F31E600CB for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:40:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B4C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 16:33:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14286623 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:33:50 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9LXot22231 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:33:50 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA9LXle6026814 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:33:48 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000e01c3a709$26e39860$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <002401c3a6f5$956db860$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FAE9523.DF297FAC@maynor.net> <000801c3a6f9$bb6c2480$e1cadece@0018079268> <20031109202614.GA86992@words-l.org> <3FAEA666.90309@swbell.net> Subject: Re: Re: Espanillegal Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:33:43 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > > On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 01:43:21PM -0600, Doris Markland wrote: > > > >>Why do other countries police their borders but ours have turned to > >>jelly? Is it the heat from the melting pot? > >> > > > > The democrats did it. > > > No, it was the RR's and their guns and immoral ways! > > > > > -- > Rita Rouvalis Chapman No. Blame Canada! - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 15:47:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9Ll46q021178 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:47:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 064CA1E600CC; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:42:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB4401E600CB for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:42:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B4C3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 16:34:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14286654 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:34:53 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9LYqt22319 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:34:52 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA9LYqSf029626 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:34:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:35:26 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1542320951.20031109153526@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: mcedness In-Reply-To: <3FAEB1EC.AA185AA7@maynor.net> References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <3FAE5916.6513CCDF@maynor.net> <3FAE8CC3.B84BCDE6@maynor.net> <3FAE8E00.8@swbell.net> <3FAE9426.1CC72548@maynor.net> <000801c3a6f7$82c223c0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FAEB1EC.AA185AA7@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 09, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > It's not complicated at all now that I understand what the problem was. > Nor is there anything involving intellectual reasoning -- or at least > nothing beyond very minor thinking. The problem was that when Bethany > said it was not something she found "attractive," I didn't understand > that she meant it's not the type thing that she's normally attracted > by. Now it seems rather simple really: You have a strong urge to do > something that seems surprising to you since it's not something you > would have thought you would feel a strong urge to do. This isn't the only sort of calling one can have, though. You can have a calling for something that makes perfect sense that you *are* attracted to. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 15:47:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9Ll86q021181 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:47:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ACED91E600CE; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:42:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F60E1E600CC for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:42:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B4A9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 16:34:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14286658 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:34:57 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9LYvt22325 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:34:57 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA9LYse6029029 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:34:56 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001701c3a709$4f06dd20$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: my ghosty image Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:34:51 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Borkin" To: Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 2:47 PM Subject: my ghosty image > is on the back of the boxed set "Music from the Once Festival 1961 1966." > > If you look at it, you can't miss me, because I'm the girl. But I don't > know if this set is in any stores - well maybe in New York, maybe > Berkeley, maybe Ann Arbor. Period. > > Ann > Is it something you can scan and put up for us? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 15:51:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9Lpg6q021239 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:51:42 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5FFCC1E600D2; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:46:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF571E600CF for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:46:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B4C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 16:39:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14286834 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:39:31 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9LdVt22891 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:39:31 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-128.gwi.net [216.195.156.128]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA9LdTAr051324 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:39:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109163859.00bc2e90@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 16:39:48 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <000f01c3a6f9$e0a541a0$e1cadece@0018079268> References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109112239.00ba3c20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109143728.00bafbe0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Yes, authorities. They told me. My eighth grade nun told me mother > >that she thought "Bonnie has a calling." -- bonnie > >Bonnie, are you Irish? > - D. M. No, I'm German. Bonnie Mae Dreps was my maiden name. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 15:51:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9Lpj6q021242 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:51:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 400181E600D2; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:46:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EEB31E600CF for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:46:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B4D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 16:39:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14286838 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:39:34 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9LdXt22898 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:39:34 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA9LdWoe009298 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:39:33 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FAEB3CC.2020701@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 15:38:20 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cool anniversary present References: <3FAEB02B.4090405@swbell.net> <1921197279.20031109152919@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > On Sunday, November 09, 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > >>For our 9th -- a hand/custom made red oak bookcase. It's >>extremely nice. And just when I was wondering where I was >>going to shelve the latest shipment from Amazon when I'm >>done reading it ;). Ana's books are also getting out of >>control. It's gorgeous, and just the right height to >>display the books from Alyce properly. >> > > Is red oak just a Missouri thing? It's such a beautiful wood. I am > gelous! I don't know, but it was made by some guy my husband met not too long ago. It makes the other bookcase in that room, which is solid cherry, look almost dull and shabby. > Happy Anniversary, too.:) Thank you. I thought for sure I'd be twice divorced by now ... who-da thunk? :) -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 15:53:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9Lrk6q021266 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:53:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 611D11E600CE; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:48:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 196051E600CC for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:48:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B4CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 16:41:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14286875 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:41:34 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9LfXt23082 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:41:34 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA9LfWSf003672 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:41:33 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:42:07 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1826541764.20031109154207@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Cool anniversary present In-Reply-To: <3FAEB3CC.2020701@swbell.net> References: <3FAEB02B.4090405@swbell.net> <1921197279.20031109152919@WordWrite.com> <3FAEB3CC.2020701@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 09, 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > I don't know, but it was made by some guy my husband met not > too long ago. It makes the other bookcase in that room, > which is solid cherry, look almost dull and shabby. Yeah. It's a nice wood. >> Happy Anniversary, too.:) > Thank you. I thought for sure I'd be twice divorced by now > ... who-da thunk? :) YaY! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 15:54:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9Ls46q021270 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:54:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AD1871E600CE; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:49:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C03B1E600CC for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:49:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B4CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 16:41:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14286908 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:41:53 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9Lfrt23126 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:41:53 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-128.gwi.net [216.195.156.128]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA9LfjAr051620 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:41:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109164052.00bcb8d0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 16:42:05 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <37716207.20031109144646@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109143927.00b3e2d0@pop.gwi.net> <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <3FAE5916.6513CCDF@maynor.net> <3FAE8CC3.B84BCDE6@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109143927.00b3e2d0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Ah, now I get it. I feel called to the rowing machine. It doesn't really > > sound attractive. I don't think I really have to or ought to do it. But > > yet it calls to me. This afternoon I answered that call. > > >"Addiction" is not the same thing as "calling". >Karen But the addiction was totally broken. For years. And then it called out to me again. That can no longer be considered an addiction. I bought a 20 punch card at the YMCA. After 20 times, I'll try to kick the habit again. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 15:57:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9LvW6q021310 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:57:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EB5E81E600CF; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:52:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9C551E600CE for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:52:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B4D2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 16:45:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14286948 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:45:13 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9LjCt23301 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:45:12 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-128.gwi.net [216.195.156.128]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA9Lj6Gn078691 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:45:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109164255.00bc1460@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 16:45:26 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <133793647.20031109144856@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109112239.00ba3c20@pop.gwi.net> <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109112239.00ba3c20@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Nor have I ever heard anyone describe how they were called. > >Hm. I take it you haven't sought this out? No, I haven't sought it out. I did glance through an article in the newspaper just today that mentioned a bishop's calling. When they didn't describe the nature of the call in the first three paragraphs, I gave up the quest. > > She left. Now she does ballroom dancing and, the last time I saw her, > was selling > >vitamins in some kind of pyramid scheme. > >Cool. Is she happy? >Karen I don't know. How does one judge happiness? She didn't look particularly happy. But then few people do. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 15:58:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9LwZ6q021315 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:58:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7978A1E600CF; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:53:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AD7E1E600CE for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:53:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B4E2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 16:46:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14286999 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:46:24 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9LkOt23401 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:46:24 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 722992B8F4; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:46:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 680E62B8E6 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:46:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:46:23 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: my ghosty image In-Reply-To: <002401c3a707$0cf21ff0$697a8083@awild4dj8f> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Alan Wild wrote: > Copy it so we can see it! Sorry, I'm not equipped. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 15:59:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9Lx06q021323 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:59:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6CF051E600CE; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:53:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D8701E600CF for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:53:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B4CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 16:46:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14287028 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:46:49 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9Lknt23439 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:46:49 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA9LkmSf007913 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:46:48 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:47:23 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1385613657.20031109154723@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: mcedness In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109164052.00bcb8d0@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109143927.00b3e2d0@pop.gwi.net> <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <3FAE5916.6513CCDF@maynor.net> <3FAE8CC3.B84BCDE6@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109143927.00b3e2d0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109164052.00bcb8d0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 09, 2003, bonniev wrote: > But the addiction was totally broken. For years. And then it called out > to me again. That can no longer be considered an addiction. Huh? My limited understanding of addictions is that you are always considered to have it, that it never goes away. Once an alcoholic, for example, always an alcoholic. > I bought a 20 punch card at the YMCA. After 20 times, I'll try to > kick the habit again. STOP THE MADNESS!!! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 15:59:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9LxS6q021330 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:59:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 00D3D1E600D2; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:54:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5C291E600D1 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:54:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B4D0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 16:47:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14287121 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:47:16 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9LlGt23708 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:47:16 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109214711.ZPVN1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:47:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAEB5E0.D1ECBFF7@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 15:47:12 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Espanillegal References: <002401c3a6f5$956db860$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FAE9523.DF297FAC@maynor.net> <000801c3a6f9$bb6c2480$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > Confusing is right. There seems to be no > quota, no restrictions, no requirements. > And this did not just start recently. Have we > not had laws enforced in prior years? Where > did it break down? Why do other countries > police their borders but ours have turned to > jelly? Is it the heat from the melting pot? I'm not sure whether you're talking about legal or illegal residents now, since you've mentioned no quota, restrictions, etc. I was talking about illegal aliens. My limited understanding of the reason that more is not done to stop illegal aliens from coming in is that it's economic -- that employers need the illegal aliens to do jobs they can't find U.S. workers to do. I've read chicken-plucking as a local (i.e., state) example. They can't find enough U.S. workers to fill the slots. It might seem logical then to allow more legal immigration, making these chicken-pluckers legal instead of illegal. But then the problem, or so I've heard it, would be that the employers would have to start paying them minimum wage and that the businesses might go under, whether from bankruptcy through payroll or from having to jack the prices up so high that the consumers will quit buying. And if they're making minimum wage, some of these workers might decide they'd rather do other kinds of work and start competing for jobs that U.S. workers do want. Iow, what I've read and heard on this subject is not that the borders are loose because of bleeding hearts who want to give these poor people a happy home but that it's mainly a business matter. The questions then go on and on. What if your illegal employee has a medical emergency? Is it moral to let him just die in a ditch behind the plant? And what about the children? Should they be allowed to go to public schools, to participate in free-lunch programs, etc? If no, since their parents aren't paying taxes, then aren't you creating a huge pot of future problems with impoverished, uneducated children? But going back to the idea of paying below minimum wage for work that allegedly most U.S workers won't do even for minimum wage: Is it wrong (morally -- leaving aside for the moment the question of abiding by laws) to hire illegal aliens and pay them below the minimum wage if that is in fact more money than they could get at home and they want to work for that money -- iow, if both the employer and employee are happy with the situation? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 16:00:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9M0Q6q021335 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:00:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 51B971E600CF; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:55:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 247C21E600CE for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:55:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B4E0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 16:48:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14287155 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:48:15 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f25.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9LmFt23790 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:48:15 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:48:09 -0800 Received: from 149.160.22.98 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 21:48:09 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.22.98] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Meldrum Bay Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 16:48:09 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Nov 2003 21:48:09.0454 (UTC) FILETIME=[2A6978E0:01C3A70B] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I hadn't planned to spend any time doing this, but it's a slow day in the Library, and we close tomorrow, so here's a quick, no frills, web tour of the new cottage. http://homepages.ius.edu/CROSEN/ _________________________________________________________________ MSN Messenger with backgrounds, emoticons and more. http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/cdp_customize From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 16:00:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9M0R6q021338 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:00:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B4ED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 16:48:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14287159 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:48:15 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9LmFt23796 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:48:15 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-128.gwi.net [216.195.156.128]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA9LmEAr052399 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:48:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109164754.00bb6bf8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 16:48:33 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Cool anniversary present In-Reply-To: <3FAEB3CC.2020701@swbell.net> References: <3FAEB02B.4090405@swbell.net> <1921197279.20031109152919@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Karen Kay wrote: >>Is red oak just a Missouri thing? It's such a beautiful wood. I doubt it. We used to burn red oak in our fire place in Tennessee. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 16:01:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9M1m6q021362 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:01:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 00C6F1E600D1; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:56:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5FD91E600CF for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:56:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B4F1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 16:49:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14287210 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:49:37 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9Lnat23921 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:49:36 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109214931.ZQJH1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:49:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAEB66C.A021C07D@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 15:49:32 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <3FAE5916.6513CCDF@maynor.net> <3FAE8CC3.B84BCDE6@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109143927.00b3e2d0@pop.gwi.net> <3FAE9922.50204@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > > Ah, now I get it. I feel called to the rowing machine. It doesn't really > > sound attractive. I don't think I really have to or ought to do it. But > > yet it calls to me. This afternoon I answered that call. > > My schizophrenia is concerned with things that are a little > different than a workout or a bagel, but have it your way. > It's your McCalling. Bagels and exercise aren't necessarily as as things like where Bethany decides to live. They're little things that follow the same idea. Iow, they're examples of how it works to feel a to do something. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 16:02:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9M2h6q021376 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:02:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C6BF11E600D1; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:57:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9215B1E600CF for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:57:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B4D8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 16:50:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14287226 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:50:32 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f27.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.27]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9LoWt23982 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:50:32 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:50:26 -0800 Received: from 149.160.22.98 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 21:50:26 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.22.98] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: my ghosty image Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 16:50:26 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Nov 2003 21:50:26.0934 (UTC) FILETIME=[7C5B4160:01C3A70B] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Outstanding! Are you planning to scan it in? >From: Ann Borkin >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: my ghosty image >Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:47:30 -0800 > >is on the back of the boxed set "Music from the Once Festival 1961 1966." > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Shopping upgraded for the holidays! Snappier product search... http://shopping.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 16:03:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9M3Z6q021383 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:03:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D876E1E600D1; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:58:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA5051E600CF for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:58:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B4DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 16:51:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14287270 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:51:23 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9LpNt24070 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:51:23 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA9LpMsg014745 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:51:23 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:51:57 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1957215296.20031109155157@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: mcedness In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109164255.00bc1460@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109112239.00ba3c20@pop.gwi.net> <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109112239.00ba3c20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109164255.00bc1460@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 09, 2003, bonniev wrote: >> > Nor have I ever heard anyone describe how they were called. >> >>Hm. I take it you haven't sought this out? > No, I haven't sought it out. I did glance through an article in the > newspaper just today that mentioned a bishop's calling. When they didn't > describe the nature of the call in the first three paragraphs, I gave up > the quest. Well, you should come to my meeting today. There was a forum before meeting on 'vocal ministry', which just means 'being called to speak at meeting'. Several people talked about how they were led to speak. >> > She left. Now she does ballroom dancing and, the last time I saw her, >> was selling >> >vitamins in some kind of pyramid scheme. >> >>Cool. Is she happy? >>Karen > I don't know. How does one judge happiness? She didn't look particularly > happy. But then few people do. I like to ask. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 16:03:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9M3t6q021397 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:03:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 53DFD1E600D1; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:58:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23B381E600CF for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:58:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B4EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 16:51:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14287292 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:51:44 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9Lpit24130 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:51:44 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-128.gwi.net [216.195.156.128]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA9LpcAr052794 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:51:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109164908.00bca8f0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 16:51:57 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <1385613657.20031109154723@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109164052.00bcb8d0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109143927.00b3e2d0@pop.gwi.net> <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <3FAE5916.6513CCDF@maynor.net> <3FAE8CC3.B84BCDE6@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109143927.00b3e2d0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109164052.00bcb8d0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Huh? My limited understanding of addictions is that you are always >considered to have it, that it never goes away. Once an alcoholic, for >example, always an alcoholic. I don't believe that. I read, in fact, that being an alcoholic has come into question. are tending once more to think it is simply a moral failing. One can be physically addicted to something, like nicotine. But once it is out of one's system, the addiction is gone. What's left is the desire and the habit. That's not addiction, in my book. > > I bought a 20 punch card at the YMCA. After 20 times, I'll try to > > kick the habit again. > >STOP THE MADNESS!!! >Karen Indeed. The amazing thing was how very familiar it all felt. It was like I had never left. Although I did forget to take a water bottle along, something I would never have forgotten in the old days. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 16:05:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9M5u6q021407 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:05:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9DFAB1E600D2; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:00:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CDF91E600CF for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:00:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B4F4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 16:53:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14287384 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:53:45 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9Lrjt24341 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:53:45 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hA9Lrgvi014339 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:53:43 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:54:17 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <732110547.20031109155417@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Meldrum Bay In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 09, 2003, Marty Rosen wrote: > I hadn't planned to spend any time doing this, but it's a slow day in the > Library, and we close tomorrow, so here's a quick, no frills, web tour of > the new cottage. > http://homepages.ius.edu/CROSEN/ It looks truly peaceful. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 16:06:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9M6S6q021420 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:06:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2AC331E600D3; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:01:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0A851E600CF for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:01:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D971D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 16:54:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14287402 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:54:17 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9LsGt24397 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:54:16 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109215412.ZROP1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:54:12 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAEB784.155FAF7@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 15:54:12 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Have I asked this before? References: <3FAE547E.F2BFB378@maynor.net> <524898257.20031109142801@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > No. I was shocked when I found out that Japanese trucks did this--and > then when I came back to the US, or soon after, American trucks > started doing it. I went to Japan in 1973. It's funny that I also often think of Japan when I hear the back-up beeping, even though it had been in use here also for a long time before I went to Japan. The reason I have the association is mainly that the whole year I lived in that apartment, there was major construction going on down below my balcony -- construction that for the whole year was at the level of messing around with the dirt and stuff (as in no structures were going up). So I heard lots and lots of backup beeping. I also enjoyed watching the workers doing calisthenics early in the morning. I was sad, btw, when I heard that Fuji-san is no longer visible from the apartment -- because of whatever that construction was that is now finished and tall. > I don't ever remember ambulances being 'sleek'. Hmm. Surely there is some other Wordsler who remembers ambulances that looked like long station wagons -- or, as I said earlier, like hearses except white instead of black. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 16:06:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9M6X6q021423 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:06:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5A4321E600D3; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:01:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C30C1E600D2 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:01:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B502@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 16:54:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14287408 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:54:22 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9LsMt24408 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:54:22 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hA9LsJvi014680 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:54:20 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:54:54 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1666641361.20031109155454@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: mcedness In-Reply-To: <3FAEB66C.A021C07D@maynor.net> References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <3FAE5916.6513CCDF@maynor.net> <3FAE8CC3.B84BCDE6@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109143927.00b3e2d0@pop.gwi.net> <3FAE9922.50204@swbell.net> <3FAEB66C.A021C07D@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 09, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Rita Chapman wrote: >> > Ah, now I get it. I feel called to the rowing machine. It doesn't really >> > sound attractive. I don't think I really have to or ought to do it. But >> > yet it calls to me. This afternoon I answered that call. >> >> My schizophrenia is concerned with things that are a little >> different than a workout or a bagel, but have it your way. >> It's your McCalling. > Bagels and exercise aren't necessarily as as things like > where Bethany decides to live. They're little things that follow the > same idea. Iow, they're examples of how it works to feel a to > do something. Bethany wasn't talking about where to live, but how to spend her life. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 16:07:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9M7P6q021429 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:07:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 502D51E600D3; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:02:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 229BC1E600D2 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:02:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B4EA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 16:55:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14287432 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:55:14 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9LtEt24470 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:55:14 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA9LtCSf015285 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:55:13 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:55:47 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <4238007.20031109155547@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: mcedness In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109164908.00bca8f0@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109164052.00bcb8d0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109143927.00b3e2d0@pop.gwi.net> <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <3FAE5916.6513CCDF@maynor.net> <3FAE8CC3.B84BCDE6@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109143927.00b3e2d0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109164052.00bcb8d0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109164908.00bca8f0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 09, 2003, bonniev wrote: > Indeed. The amazing thing was how very familiar it all felt. Well, duh! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 16:11:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9MB66q021455 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:11:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9407F1E600D1; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:06:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 658291E600CF for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:06:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B51A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 16:58:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14287623 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:58:55 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9Lwtt24739 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:58:55 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109215850.ZSRM1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:58:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAEB89B.139B4338@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 15:58:51 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: my ghosty image References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin wrote: > > is on the back of the boxed set "Music from the Once Festival 1961 1966." > > If you look at it, you can't miss me, because I'm the girl. But I don't > know if this set is in any stores - well maybe in New York, maybe > Berkeley, maybe Ann Arbor. Period. Neat! Is it findable online -- as in showing the picture on the back? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 16:11:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9MBp6q021458 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:11:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 542CC1E600D4; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:06:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25F221E600D1 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:06:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B51C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 16:59:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14287734 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:59:40 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9Lxet24848 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:59:40 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109215935.ZSVV1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:59:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAEB8C7.BD0E060B@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 15:59:35 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cool anniversary present References: <3FAEB02B.4090405@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > > For our 9th -- a hand/custom made red oak bookcase. It's > extremely nice. And just when I was wondering where I was > going to shelve the latest shipment from Amazon when I'm > done reading it ;). Ana's books are also getting out of > control. It's gorgeous, and just the right height to > display the books from Alyce properly. Sounds pefect. And Happy Anniversary! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 16:12:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9MCD6q021461 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:12:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C5E511E600D3; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:07:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91BE91E600D2 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:07:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D972B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 17:00:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14287768 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:00:00 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9M00t24905 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:00:00 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-128.gwi.net [216.195.156.128]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA9LxxGn080185 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:59:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109165838.00bc3e80@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 17:00:18 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Meldrum Bay In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Very nice, Marty. Looks like you have a little piece of Paradise. I've often wondered what happened about furniture when one buys a home on an island. It seems altogether easier to simply leave the furniture there. How long and what manner of commute is it for you to get from your first home to your second home? >I hadn't planned to spend any time doing this, but it's a slow day in the >Library, and we close tomorrow, so here's a quick, no frills, web tour of >the new cottage. > >http://homepages.ius.edu/CROSEN/ bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 16:21:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9MLj6q021535 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:21:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 46CA11E600D2; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:16:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 141821E600D1 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:16:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B58E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 17:09:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14288664 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:09:34 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9M9Xt25900 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:09:34 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA9M9Ve6003628 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:09:32 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001301c3a70e$24760180$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109112239.00ba3c20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109143728.00bafbe0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109163859.00bc2e90@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: Re: mcedness Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:09:27 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > Yes, authorities. They told me. My eighth grade nun told me mother > > >that she thought "Bonnie has a calling." -- bonnie > > > >Bonnie, are you Irish? > > - D. M. > > No, I'm German. Bonnie Mae Dreps was my maiden name. > > > bonnie But you were talking about "me mother." - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 16:26:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9MQq6q021556 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:26:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 670321E600D4; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:21:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3539E1E600D3 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:21:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B590@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 17:14:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14288810 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:14:41 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9MEft26259 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:14:41 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA9MEce6012978 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:14:39 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002601c3a70e$db664800$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Meldrum Bay Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:14:34 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wow! I could be happy there! - D. M. > I hadn't planned to spend any time doing this, but it's a slow day in the > Library, and we close tomorrow, so here's a quick, no frills, web tour of > the new cottage. > > http://homepages.ius.edu/CROSEN/ > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Messenger with backgrounds, emoticons and more. > http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/cdp_customize > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 16:28:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9MSe6q021560 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:28:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5CE111E600D3; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:23:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8E41E600D2 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:23:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D97C3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 17:16:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14288848 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:16:21 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9MGLt26371 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:16:21 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA9MGAoe002940 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:16:20 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FAEBC61.8070202@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 16:14:57 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Meldrum Bay References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I could be a hermit there. Marty Rosen wrote: > I hadn't planned to spend any time doing this, but it's a slow day in the > Library, and we close tomorrow, so here's a quick, no frills, web tour of > the new cottage. > > http://homepages.ius.edu/CROSEN/ > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Messenger with backgrounds, emoticons and more. > http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/cdp_customize > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 16:30:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9MUg6q021631 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:30:42 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 56DE61E600D3; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:24:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 284AC1E600D2 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:24:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B5A4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 17:17:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14288873 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:17:14 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f62.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.62]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9MHEt26442 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:17:14 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:17:08 -0800 Received: from 149.160.22.98 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 22:17:08 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.22.98] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Meldrum Bay Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 17:17:08 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Nov 2003 22:17:08.0487 (UTC) FILETIME=[36F4D970:01C3A70F] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: bonniev >>there. How long and what manner of commute is it for you to get >from your >first home to your second home? For us, it's a full day's travel, circa 14 hours, depending on conditions, from Louisville to Manitoulin. For less stalwart drivers, it's probably a two day trip. There are two routes. During the warm months (April through October), we cross into Canada at Port Huron and take a ferry from Tobermory, at the tip of the Bruce Peninsula, to South Baymouth, on the south shore of Manitoulin. During the winter, we cross over at Sault Ste. Marie, drive east, and cross over via a swing bridge in Little Current (pop. circa 1500, the island's metropolitan center). _________________________________________________________________ Crave some Miles Davis or Grateful Dead? Your old favorites are always playing on MSN Radio Plus. Trial month free! http://join.msn.com/?page=offers/premiumradio From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 16:30:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9MUj6q021645 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:30:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DA3341E600D6; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:25:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB0A51E600D5 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:25:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D97C6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 17:18:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14288883 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:18:30 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f81.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.81]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9MIUt26493 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:18:30 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:18:24 -0800 Received: from 149.160.22.98 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 22:18:24 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.22.98] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: my ghosty image Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 17:18:24 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Nov 2003 22:18:24.0973 (UTC) FILETIME=[648BAFD0:01C3A70F] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU CD Universe has a picture of the front cover only. >From: Natalie Maynor >Neat! Is it findable online -- as in showing the picture on the back? _________________________________________________________________ MSN Shopping upgraded for the holidays! Snappier product search... http://shopping.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 16:31:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9MVh6q021671 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:31:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 064941E600D3; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:26:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC14D1E600D1 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:26:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B5A9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 17:19:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14288935 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:19:32 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f25.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9MJVt26597 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:19:31 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:19:26 -0800 Received: from 149.160.22.98 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 22:19:26 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.22.98] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Meldrum Bay Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 17:19:26 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Nov 2003 22:19:26.0314 (UTC) FILETIME=[891B94A0:01C3A70F] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Until the wind kicks up... >From: Karen Kay >It looks truly peaceful. _________________________________________________________________ Send a QuickGreet with MSN Messenger http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/cdp_games From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 16:36:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9MaP6q021695 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:36:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 241631E600D1; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:31:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6A4D1E600D3 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:31:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B5C0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 17:24:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14289041 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:24:14 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f113.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.113]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9MODt26940 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:24:13 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:24:08 -0800 Received: from 149.160.22.98 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 22:24:07 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.22.98] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Meldrum Bay Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 17:24:07 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Nov 2003 22:24:08.0193 (UTC) FILETIME=[311EE710:01C3A710] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Or, if not, at least you can go fishing, which is a good surrogate.... >From: Doris Markland >Wow! I could be happy there! _________________________________________________________________ MSN Shopping upgraded for the holidays! Snappier product search... http://shopping.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 16:42:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9MgX6q021755 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:42:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 747561E600D8; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:37:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4225E1E600D6 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:37:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B5B3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 17:30:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14289192 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:30:22 -0500 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9MUMt27423 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:30:22 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.9d.40d75992 (4222) for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:30:14 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <9d.40d75992.2ce019f5@aol.com> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:30:13 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Espanillegal To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/9/2003 3:34:18 PM Central Standard Time, dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM writes: << No. Blame Canada! >> What Would Brian Boitano Do? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Trying to make sense of the latest Big O From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 16:46:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9MkS6q021776 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:46:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A86A31E600D5; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:41:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7994D1E600D1 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:41:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B5DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 17:34:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14289337 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:34:16 -0500 Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9MYGt27769 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:34:16 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.29.4abaae5f (4222) for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:34:07 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <29.4abaae5f.2ce01adf@aol.com> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:34:07 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Have I asked this before? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/9/2003 11:48:02 AM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << There is a frenzied debate being conducted regarding these devices, and they can't possibly continue in use if any old body can get "aholt" of them. >> What would happen if a pedestrian is crossing with the WALK light and the light changes because of one of these gadgets while he is in the middle? Another case of Pedestrian Polo? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Trying to make sense of the latest Big O From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 16:47:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9Mlm6q021791 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:47:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A4AAE1E600D6; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:42:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7463F1E600D3 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:42:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B5C4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 17:35:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14289368 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:35:36 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9MZat27871 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:35:36 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hA9MZW2K014292 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:35:34 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:36:08 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1918242400.20031109163608@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Meldrum Bay In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 09, 2003, Marty Rosen wrote: > Until the wind kicks up... >>From: Karen Kay >>It looks truly peaceful. Well, isn't that always the way?! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 16:52:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9MqW6q021810 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:52:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CB25A1E600D3; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:47:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 990061E600D1 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:47:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B5ED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 17:40:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14289530 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:40:20 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f110.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.110]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9MeKt28367 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:40:20 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:40:14 -0800 Received: from 149.160.22.98 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 22:40:14 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.22.98] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Meldrum Bay Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 17:40:14 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Nov 2003 22:40:14.0903 (UTC) FILETIME=[71532470:01C3A712] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Very definitely. This isn't exactly the end of the road, but it's past the village, and the road ends about a half mile from here. Because of easements and mandatory setbacks, it's impossible for others to build to the south, or within about 350 feet on the north. And the property extends west a hundred feet or so on the other side of the road, so it's fairly well insulated from neighbors. The bed and breakfast is on the other side of the road, off to the south, but by all accounts it's not a very busy spot. Still, it's within walking distance of the general store. Politically, it's in something with an attractively chaotic name: an "unorganized township." >From: Rita Chapman >I could be a hermit there. _________________________________________________________________ Compare high-speed Internet plans, starting at $26.95. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 17:05:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9N566q021919 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:05:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8C6FD1E600D6; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:00:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BC6C1E600D5 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:00:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B625@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 17:52:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14290046 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:52:54 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9Mqst29787 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:52:54 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109225248.ZBJH1849.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:52:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAEC541.538F2D9A@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 16:52:49 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Meldrum Bay References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen wrote: > http://homepages.ius.edu/CROSEN/ It's wonderful!! I noticed at the end that the possessions in the pictures were your predecessors', not yours, so I won't ask you about all those pills. Seeing the computer made me wonder about things like net access. Is it available? Probably not DSL. How much trouble will the grass-cutting be, and what will you do about it when you're absent? And when is Rashmi going to announce Meldrum Bay as our fest destination? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 17:08:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9N8W6q021977 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:08:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 795751E600D3; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:03:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DC491E600D5 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:03:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B627@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 17:56:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14290164 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:56:12 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9MuCt30206 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:56:12 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109225606.ZCFP1849.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:56:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAEC607.24117DDE@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 16:56:07 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <3FAE5916.6513CCDF@maynor.net> <3FAE8CC3.B84BCDE6@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109143927.00b3e2d0@pop.gwi.net> <3FAE9922.50204@swbell.net> <3FAEB66C.A021C07D@maynor.net> <1666641361.20031109155454@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Bethany wasn't talking about where to live, but how to spend her life. But the where was the crucial ingredient in the how. (Not where in the sense of a specific place -- where in the sense of the kind of place.) Her use of the word "community" did not suggest to me that she was considering simply living that kind of life where she now is -- that kind of life being meditation and manual labor, both of which any of us can do in our regular living places. (Since Bethany lives in a condo, she might have to get permission to help the maintenance grew with manual labor, but if they said no, she could do things like build bookcases to give to neighbors or to the poor.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 17:09:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9N9l6q021984 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:09:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5B9E01E600D5; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:04:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26A7C1E600D3 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:04:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B619@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 17:57:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14290177 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:57:36 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9MvZt30301 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:57:35 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA9MvXe6000231 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:57:34 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000401c3a714$d9df9940$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: Meldrum Bay Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:57:28 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Politically, it's in something with an attractively chaotic name: an > "unorganized township." > > >From: Rita Chapman > > >I could be a hermit there. She feels a calling. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 17:11:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9NB66q021994 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:11:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D9C431E600D6; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:06:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAC501E600D5 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:06:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D984B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 17:58:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14290340 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:58:54 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9Mwst30672 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:58:54 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA9Mwqxu022913 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:58:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FAEC664.9040406@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 16:57:40 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words-l Subject: An interesting slip of tongue Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU An announcer on the TV just announced the upcoming movie, "Saving Jessica Ryan" -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 17:12:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9NC86q021998 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:12:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D59C91E600D5; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:07:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6F191E600D3 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:07:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B62C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 17:59:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14290393 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:59:56 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9Mxut30919 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:59:56 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA9Mxtxu023413 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:59:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FAEC6A3.8090001@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 16:58:43 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Meldrum Bay References: <000401c3a714$d9df9940$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: >>Politically, it's in something with an attractively chaotic name: an >>"unorganized township." >> >> >>>From: Rita Chapman > >>>I could be a hermit there. >>> > > > She feels a calling. > No. That's not my calling. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 17:15:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9NFF6q022023 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:15:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CE62D1E600D6; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:10:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AFA41E600D5 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:10:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B66D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 18:03:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14290790 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:03:03 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9N33t31529 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:03:03 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109230258.ZEBS1849.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:02:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAEC7A3.E953FC4@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 17:02:59 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: An interesting slip of tongue References: <3FAEC664.9040406@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > > An announcer on the TV just announced the upcoming movie, > "Saving Jessica Ryan" When is that to be on? I've read about it but can't remember the when. I also read that it is running opposite a movie about Whatshername -- the Mormon kidnapped by the crazies. I've read that both of them are fictional but that the kidnapping one is less so than the Jessica one. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 17:25:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9NP26q022071 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:25:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 00AB71E600D9; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:20:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE521E600D6 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:19:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B687@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 18:12:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14291165 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:12:50 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9NCot32420 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:12:50 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031109231245.ZGMJ1849.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:12:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAEC9EE.F6F7470@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 17:12:46 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Re: An interesting slip of tongue References: <3FAEC664.9040406@swbell.net> <3FAEC7A3.E953FC4@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > When is that to be on? I've read about it but can't remember the when. I just checked the online tv guide and saw that it's tonight. But it's not til 8. I hate when things start that late. Same for the one about Elizabeth Smart. It's also at 8. And I don't think those times are Eastern since the online guide listed specific channels -- like channel 4 in Columbus. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 17:33:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9NXu6q022127 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:33:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 114CF1E600D6; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:28:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3BF31E600D3 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:28:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B6A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 18:21:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14291377 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:21:45 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9NLit00559 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:21:44 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id CBF402B8EF; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:21:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C08DC2B8E8 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:21:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:21:43 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Meldrum Bay In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > http://homepages.ius.edu/CROSEN/ Beautiful. How much time can you spend there during a year? Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 17:35:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9NZm6q022162 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:35:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 110BB1E600D9; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:30:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7C9F1E600D6 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:30:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B69D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 18:23:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14291435 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:23:37 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9NNat00699 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:23:36 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA9NNYe6020006 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:23:35 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000601c3a718$7bbc5660$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3FAEC664.9040406@swbell.net> <3FAEC7A3.E953FC4@maynor.net> <3FAEC9EE.F6F7470@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: An interesting slip of tongue Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:23:28 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" To: Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 5:12 PM Subject: Re: An interesting slip of tongue > > When is that to be on? I've read about it but can't remember the when. > > I just checked the online tv guide and saw that it's tonight. But it's > not til 8. I hate when things start that late. Same for the one about > Elizabeth Smart. It's also at 8. And I don't think those times are > Eastern since the online guide listed specific channels -- like channel > 4 in Columbus. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) You are correct. It's 9:00 Eastern. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 17:43:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9NhY6q022206 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:43:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ABFAA1E600D9; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:38:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78B3B1E600D6 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:38:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B6AD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 18:31:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14291629 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:31:22 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9NVMt01290 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:31:22 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id B25302B574; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:31:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A472B559 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:31:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:31:21 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: Signing with infants Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Have you heard about this? Allan's son and daughter in law are signing with their baby. I'm not sure the kid has the idea down exactly right, yet - he signs 'moon' at everybody because signing 'moon' at the sky or at a light thrills his parents enormously. http://www.timetosign.com/benefitsofourprogram.html Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 17:47:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9Nlh6q022246 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:47:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E7B831E600D9; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:42:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9D0B1E600D6 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:42:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B6D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 18:35:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14291747 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:35:31 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9NZVt01574 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:35:31 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hA9NZSe6010450 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:35:29 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000601c3a71a$255c4c60$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Signing with infants Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:35:20 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU . > Have you heard about this? Allan's son and daughter in law are signing > with their baby. I'm not sure the kid has the idea down exactly right, > yet - he signs 'moon' at everybody because signing 'moon' at the sky or at > a light thrills his parents enormously. > > http://www.timetosign.com/benefitsofourprogram.html > > Ann Yes, I have heard of it. Interesting. My sister would have been pleased. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 17:51:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9NpD6q022293 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:51:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 816391E600DA; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:46:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51E961E600D9 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:46:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B6DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 18:39:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14291840 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:39:01 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f69.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9Nd1t01801 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:39:01 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:38:55 -0800 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 23:38:55 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Meldrum Bay Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 18:38:55 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Nov 2003 23:38:55.0550 (UTC) FILETIME=[A3CB3DE0:01C3A71A] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dial-up access is available, but there's no broadband access at this end of the island yet (though I think that will happen in the next year or two). I gather one can get access through a satellite dish, but I haven't explored that yet. The previous owners had a relationship with a local handyman who took care of mowing the lawn when they weren't around; we'll probably do something similar. >From: Natalie Maynor >all those pills. Seeing the computer made me wonder about things like >net access. Is it available? Probably not DSL. How much trouble will >the grass-cutting be, and what will you do about it when you're absent? > >And when is Rashmi going to announce Meldrum Bay as our fest >destination? > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) _________________________________________________________________ Compare high-speed Internet plans, starting at $26.95. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 17:57:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hA9Nv36q022385 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:57:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 668911E600DD; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:52:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3899A1E600DC for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:52:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B6FF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 18:44:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14292147 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:44:51 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f73.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9Nipt02249 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:44:51 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:44:45 -0800 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 23:44:45 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Meldrum Bay Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 18:44:45 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Nov 2003 23:44:45.0517 (UTC) FILETIME=[7463F7D0:01C3A71B] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mary will retire during 2004 (she has 30 plus years in a state pension plan). I think she'll spend a few months in residence next year. I'll probably manage five or six weeks a year. Once we finish this library building, and have given it a good shaking out, I'll spend a sabbatical up there. >From: Ann Borkin >How much time can you spend there during a year? _________________________________________________________________ Crave some Miles Davis or Grateful Dead? Your old favorites are always playing on MSN Radio Plus. Trial month free! http://join.msn.com/?page=offers/premiumradio From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 18:00:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA00R6q022397 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:00:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D04C11E600DF; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:55:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A21B31E600DC for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:55:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B70A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 18:48:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14291819 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:48:08 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9Nc7t01747 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:38:07 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA9NbN3W015316 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:37:25 -0500 Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:38:04 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109105417.00ba6c60@pop.gwi.net> Message-ID: References: <3FADAFE7.1D47D259@maynor.net> <3FAD18D6.A3115EC3@maynor.net> <3FAD8C54.CCA3FCF9@maynor.net> <3FADAFE7.1D47D259@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109105417.00ba6c60@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, bonniev wrote: >Religious as a noun, used by Roman Catholics, does not mean ordained. Nuns >and monks are not ordained. They have, however, taken vows. Priests are >ordained. Thank you, Bonnie. I stand corrected. But I also recall being told that to RCs, the word "secular" (as in the phrase "secular priest") means a priest who is not a monastic - right? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 18:01:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA01m6q022404 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:01:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EB2F71E600DF; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:56:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD2B91E600DC for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:56:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D9919@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 18:49:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14291873 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:49:36 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9Ndat01849 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:39:36 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA9Ncs3W015517 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:38:54 -0500 Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:39:36 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109105417.00ba6c60@pop.gwi.net> Message-ID: References: <3FADAFE7.1D47D259@maynor.net> <3FAD18D6.A3115EC3@maynor.net> <3FAD8C54.CCA3FCF9@maynor.net> <3FADAFE7.1D47D259@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109105417.00ba6c60@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, bonniev wrote: >Religious as a noun, used by Roman Catholics, does not mean ordained. Nuns >and monks are not ordained. They have, however, taken vows. Priests are >ordained. Many Cistercian monks - at Gethsemani and elsewhere - are ordained priests. They are called Father - the others are called Brother. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 18:03:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA03Q6q022427 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:03:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C307E1E600DD; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:58:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954341E600DC for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:58:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B70C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 18:51:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14292412 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:51:14 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9NpEt02969 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:51:14 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hA9NpB2K002621 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:51:12 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:51:46 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <395233513.20031109175146@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: mcedness In-Reply-To: References: <3FADAFE7.1D47D259@maynor.net> <3FAD18D6.A3115EC3@maynor.net> <3FAD8C54.CCA3FCF9@maynor.net> <3FADAFE7.1D47D259@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109105417.00ba6c60@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 09, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, bonniev wrote: >>Religious as a noun, used by Roman Catholics, does not mean ordained. Nuns >>and monks are not ordained. They have, however, taken vows. Priests are >>ordained. > Many Cistercian monks - at Gethsemani and elsewhere - are ordained > priests. They are called Father - the others are called Brother. Yup. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 18:03:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA03o6q022430 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:03:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EE25D1E600DC; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:58:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0B571E600DB for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:58:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B70D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 18:51:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14291970 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:51:38 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9Nfbt01990 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:41:37 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA9Net3W015892 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:40:55 -0500 Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:41:37 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <3FAE8CC3.B84BCDE6@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <3FAE5916.6513CCDF@maynor.net> <3FAE8CC3.B84BCDE6@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> >Yes, I got your point about not doing it because it was attractive but >> >rather because you felt you should. >> >> You still do not get it. It's not at all about . > >Well, if you don't find it attractive and don't feel that you >do it, then I certainly don't get it. It seems pointless. I have never said that I did not find it attractive. I find many things attractive. To me, there is a difference between feeling a "fit" (physical, spiritual, mental, etc.) and thinking that one is obligated to do something. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 18:04:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA04N6q022433 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:04:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C06361E600DC; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:59:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 923001E600DB for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:59:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B700@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 18:52:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14292017 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:52:11 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9NgBt02060 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:42:11 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA9NfS3W015972 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:41:28 -0500 Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:42:10 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Have I asked this before? In-Reply-To: <000c01c3a6f2$f9aa7460$e1cadece@0018079268> Message-ID: References: <20031109175030.21110.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> <000c01c3a6f2$f9aa7460$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Doris Markland wrote: >Got my bag, I got my reservation, >spent each dime I could afford. >Like a child in wild anticipation >long to hear that 'All aboard'. . . . Woowoo! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 18:05:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA05m6q022447 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:05:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F15991E600DC; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:00:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C33831E600DB for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:00:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B717@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 18:53:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14292133 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:53:36 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9NhZt02192 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:43:35 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA9Ngr3W016225 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:42:53 -0500 Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:43:34 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <3FAE9483.89B79AD4@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <20031109190947.39639.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <3FAE9483.89B79AD4@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Yes, and a helpful one. Where I had been lost, I now am found. I >understand. Ah, good - you are on your way to the promised land! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 18:08:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA08D6q022468 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:08:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5F4E51E600DC; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:03:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D11F1E600DB for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:03:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B70D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 18:56:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14292584 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:56:01 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hA9Nu1t03393 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:56:01 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 15:55:55 PST Message-ID: <20031109235555.6843.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:55:55 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: mcedness To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FAE9922.50204@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Rita Chapman wrote: > My schizophrenia is concerned with things > that are a little > different than a workout or a bagel, but have it > your way. > It's your McCalling. 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 18:09:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA09t6q022478 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:09:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A2C541E600DC; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:04:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 731B01E600A4 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:04:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B72E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 18:57:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14292668 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:57:43 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9Nvht03554 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:57:43 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-128.gwi.net [216.195.156.128]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA9NvbGn091056 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:57:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109185730.00bb74f8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 18:57:57 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <001301c3a70e$24760180$e1cadece@0018079268> References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109112239.00ba3c20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109143728.00bafbe0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109163859.00bc2e90@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > No, I'm German. Bonnie Mae Dreps was my maiden name. > > bonnie > >But you were talking about "me mother." > - D. M. Aye, that. It's from living with a Scots husband. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 18:13:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA0Dv6q022512 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:13:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 616C31E600E0; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:08:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D0A61E600DF for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:08:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B71B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 19:01:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14292774 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:01:45 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA01jt03877 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:01:45 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-128.gwi.net [216.195.156.128]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAA01hGn091583 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:01:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109190116.00bcd3e8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 19:02:02 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Meldrum Bay In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Politically, it's in something with an attractively chaotic name: an >"unorganized township." Maine has "unorganized territories". Must be like townships, only bigger. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 18:14:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA0E56q022526 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:14:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E24961E600E0; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:09:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF7981E600DF for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:09:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B72A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 19:01:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14292783 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:01:53 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA01rt03893 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:01:53 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110000148.RHJM1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:01:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAED56D.28CF58BA@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 18:01:49 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Signing with infants References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin wrote: > > Have you heard about this? Yes. It hit the news some number of years ago. We even discussed it (very briefly) on the list just a few days ago, I think. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 18:15:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA0F36q022533 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:15:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5C2741E600DF; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:10:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED2E1E600DC for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:10:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D9925@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 19:02:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14292812 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:02:51 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA02pt04005 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:02:51 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110000245.RHSZ1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:02:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAED5A6.195D8FCC@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 18:02:46 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Meldrum Bay References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen wrote: > > Dial-up access is available, but there's no broadband access at this end of > the island yet (though I think that will happen in the next year or two). I > gather one can get access through a satellite dish, but I haven't explored > that yet. The previous owners had a relationship with a local handyman who > took care of mowing the lawn when they weren't around; we'll probably do > something similar. You failed to answer the last question: > >And when is Rashmi going to announce Meldrum Bay as our fest > >destination? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 18:18:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA0I56q022566 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:18:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 078751E600DC; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:13:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC55B1E600DD for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:13:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B736@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 19:05:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14292910 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:05:52 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA05qt04307 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:05:52 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110000547.RIWI1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:05:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAED65C.79C7026D@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 18:05:48 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <3FAE5916.6513CCDF@maynor.net> <3FAE8CC3.B84BCDE6@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >Well, if you don't find it attractive and don't feel that you > >do it, then I certainly don't get it. It seems pointless. > > I have never said that I did not find it attractive. I find many things > attractive. To me, there is a difference between feeling a "fit" > (physical, spiritual, mental, etc.) and thinking that one is obligated to > do something. Your last sentence strikes me as quite obvious. I was not lumping attraction and obligation in any way. I was just asking about why you would do it if there was neither reason for it. I obviously misunderstood what you meant when you said "it's not that it is itself attractive." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 18:18:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA0IB6q022569 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:18:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0B0311E600DD; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:13:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1C111E600DC for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:13:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D9950@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 19:05:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14292917 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:05:58 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA05wt04319 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:05:58 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-128.gwi.net [216.195.156.128]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAA05vAr069489 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:05:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109190554.00bcf150@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 19:06:17 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Signing with infants In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alan Wild's baby was doing it at Acadiafest. >Have you heard about this? Allan's son and daughter in law are signing >with their baby. I'm not sure the kid has the idea down exactly right, >yet - he signs 'moon' at everybody because signing 'moon' at the sky or at >a light thrills his parents enormously. > >http://www.timetosign.com/benefitsofourprogram.html > >Ann bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 18:18:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA0Ii6q022578 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:18:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AEF221E600DC; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:13:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 811C71E600A4 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:13:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B72A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 19:06:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14292936 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:06:32 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA06Wt04376 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:06:32 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110000626.RJCH1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:06:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAED684.49F96839@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 18:06:28 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness References: <20031109190947.39639.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <3FAE9483.89B79AD4@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Ah, good - you are on your way to the promised land! Westward ho! But I really prefer the East. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 18:20:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA0K56q022592 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:20:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F1E211E600DD; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:15:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3CFB1E600A4 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:15:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B73E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 19:07:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14292993 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:07:53 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA07qt04502 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:07:52 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-128.gwi.net [216.195.156.128]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAA07pAr069823 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:07:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109190704.00bc99c0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 19:08:11 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109105417.00ba6c60@pop.gwi.net> <3FADAFE7.1D47D259@maynor.net> <3FAD18D6.A3115EC3@maynor.net> <3FAD8C54.CCA3FCF9@maynor.net> <3FADAFE7.1D47D259@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109105417.00ba6c60@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >But I also recall being told that >to RCs, the word "secular" (as in the phrase "secular priest") means a >priest who is not a monastic - right? >Bethany I guess it could be used that way. If I remember correctly, we called a regular priest a Diocesan priest as opposed to a priest who belonged to a religious order. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 18:20:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA0K96q022596 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:20:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 23E591E600DF; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:15:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAB991E600DD for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:15:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B74B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 19:07:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14292998 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:07:57 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAA07ut04513 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:07:56 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 16:07:51 PST Message-ID: <20031110000751.10990.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:07:51 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: my ghosty image To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1678141086.20031109145129@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > On Sunday, November 09, 2003, Ann Borkin wrote: > > is on the back of the boxed set "Music from the > Once Festival 1961 1966." > > > If you look at it, you can't miss me, because I'm > the girl. But I don't > > know if this set is in any stores - well maybe in > New York, maybe > > Berkeley, maybe Ann Arbor. Period. > > You're a *STAR*!!!!! > > Karen Yes, but from where I am, I do not have a ghost of a chance of seeing her. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 18:20:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA0Kq6q022600 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:20:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 758721E600DD; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:15:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46BC51E600A4 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:15:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B732@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 19:08:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14292725 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:08:40 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9Nwet03684 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:58:40 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA9Nvv3W018824 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:57:57 -0500 Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:58:39 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <3FAEC607.24117DDE@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <3FAE5916.6513CCDF@maynor.net> <3FAE8CC3.B84BCDE6@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109143927.00b3e2d0@pop.gwi.net> <3FAE9922.50204@swbell.net> <3FAEB66C.A021C07D@maynor.net> <1666641361.20031109155454@WordWrite.com> <3FAEC607.24117DDE@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> Bethany wasn't talking about where to live, but how to spend her life. > >But the where was the crucial ingredient in the how. (Not where in the >sense of a specific place -- where in the sense of the kind of place.) >Her use of the word "community" did not suggest to me that she was >considering simply living that kind of life where she now is -- that >kind of life being meditation and manual labor, both of which any of us >can do in our regular living places. (Since Bethany lives in a condo, >she might have to get permission to help the maintenance grew with >manual labor, but if they said no, she could do things like build >bookcases to give to neighbors or to the poor.) What would be missing would be (1) periods of absolute quiet, (2) access to the daily offices and the Eucharist, and (3) the challenges and rewards of living in community among other individuals who value Opus Dei. That does not mean that one could not have some sort of life involving both manual labor and daily prayer - but it would not be the same as living in community. One of the most powerful daily activities at the Abbey is dining - with all other retreatants - in absolute silence. Talking is not allowed in the dining hall. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 18:20:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA0Kx6q022603 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:20:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A97F11E600A4; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:15:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A8AA1E600DC for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:15:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B741@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 19:08:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14293022 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:08:47 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA08lt04572 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:08:47 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-128.gwi.net [216.195.156.128]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAA08jGn092342 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:08:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109190852.00bc68a0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 19:09:05 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109105417.00ba6c60@pop.gwi.net> <3FADAFE7.1D47D259@maynor.net> <3FAD18D6.A3115EC3@maynor.net> <3FAD8C54.CCA3FCF9@maynor.net> <3FADAFE7.1D47D259@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109105417.00ba6c60@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Many Cistercian monks - at Gethsemani and elsewhere - are ordained >priests. They are called Father - the others are called Brother. >Bethany Yes. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 18:21:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA0LY6q022614 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:21:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 08D5B1E600DC; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:16:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEA141E600A4 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:16:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B734@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 19:09:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14293041 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:09:22 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA09Lt04630 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:09:21 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110000916.RKCV1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:09:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAED72D.8745327F@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 18:09:17 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Meldrum Bay References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen wrote: > > Mary will retire during 2004 (she has 30 plus years in a state pension > plan). I think she'll spend a few months in residence next year. I'll > probably manage five or six weeks a year. Once we finish this library > building, and have given it a good shaking out, I'll spend a sabbatical up > there. What about when both of you are retired? Some retired friends of mine here have a cabin in Ontario and hop back and forth between here and there a good bit. They spend the majority of their time here but spend a good many weeks there -- non-consecutive weeks. I don't think they spend much time there in winter or spring. It's mainly summer and fall. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 18:21:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA0Lp6q022617 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:21:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A78DD1E600DF; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:16:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 799921E600DD for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:16:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B743@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 19:09:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14292746 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:09:39 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA9Nxdt03747 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:59:39 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA9Nwv3W019041 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:58:57 -0500 Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:59:39 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cool anniversary present In-Reply-To: <3FAEB8C7.BD0E060B@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FAEB02B.4090405@swbell.net> <3FAEB8C7.BD0E060B@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Rita Chapman wrote: .... >Sounds pefect. And Happy Anniversary! And also from me. And from Maria. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 18:22:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA0M76q022626 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:22:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 99C3F1E600DC; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:17:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B0F91E600A4 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:17:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B750@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 19:09:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14293057 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:09:55 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA09tt04666 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:09:55 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-128.gwi.net [216.195.156.128]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAA09oAr070103 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:09:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109190933.02a62198@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 19:10:11 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: References: <3FAE8CC3.B84BCDE6@maynor.net> <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <3FAE5916.6513CCDF@maynor.net> <3FAE8CC3.B84BCDE6@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >To me, there is a difference between feeling a "fit" >(physical, spiritual, mental, etc.) and thinking that one is obligated to >do something. --Bethany I've found that a good philosophy of life is: "just because you can, doesn't mean you have to". bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 18:24:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA0Ox6q022648 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:24:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 91F371E600DD; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:19:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F6B91E600DC for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:19:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B73F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 19:12:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14293161 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:12:47 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA0Clt04889 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:12:47 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110001241.RLJS1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:12:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAED7FA.FD51507C@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 18:12:42 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Re: Meldrum Bay References: <3FAED72D.8745327F@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU PS: I'm trying to remember whether you told us about exactly how you found the cottage. I remember when you reported on having found it and on your interest in buying it. What I don't remember is whether you were already intimate with Meldrum Bay or just stumbled upon it on that trip and found the cottage or knew people who recommended the place or knew about the cottage that was for sale or you were long-time friends of the owners or what. The part about knowing the owners is sounding familiar to me. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 18:26:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA0Q26q022656 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:26:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6D3451E600DC; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:20:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FCEB1E600A4 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:20:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B75E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 19:13:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14293205 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:13:50 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA0Dot04970 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:13:50 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-128.gwi.net [216.195.156.128]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAA0DiGn092952 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:13:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109191302.00bc8820@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 19:14:04 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: References: <3FAEC607.24117DDE@maynor.net> <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <3FAE5916.6513CCDF@maynor.net> <3FAE8CC3.B84BCDE6@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109143927.00b3e2d0@pop.gwi.net> <3FAE9922.50204@swbell.net> <3FAEB66C.A021C07D@maynor.net> <1666641361.20031109155454@WordWrite.com> <3FAEC607.24117DDE@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >One of the most powerful daily activities at the Abbey is dining - with >all other retreatants - in absolute silence. Talking is not allowed in the >dining hall. --Bethany Yes, I liked that also. Do they have someone reading aloud? We often did. When we were still in high school, the reading was often not anything of a religious nature but just an interesting novel. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 18:26:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA0Qu6q022661 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:26:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 814831E600DC; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:21:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 496921E600A4 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:21:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B757@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 19:14:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14293245 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:14:38 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA0Ect05041 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:14:38 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110001432.RMCA1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:14:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAED869.27E0BEBB@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 18:14:33 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <3FAE5916.6513CCDF@maynor.net> <3FAE8CC3.B84BCDE6@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109143927.00b3e2d0@pop.gwi.net> <3FAE9922.50204@swbell.net> <3FAEB66C.A021C07D@maynor.net> <1666641361.20031109155454@WordWrite.com> <3FAEC607.24117DDE@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > What would be missing would be (1) periods of absolute quiet, (2) access > to the daily offices and the Eucharist, and (3) the challenges and rewards > of living in community among other individuals who value Opus Dei. Right. That's why I said that the was a crucial ingredient. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 18:29:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA0TS6q022706 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:29:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4871E1E600DC; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:24:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A97B1E600A4 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:24:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B763@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 19:17:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14293378 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:17:16 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAA0HGt05346 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:17:16 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 16:17:07 PST Message-ID: <20031110001707.12666.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:17:07 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Espanillegal To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <000e01c3a709$26e39860$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > No. Blame Canada! If I recall correctly, when in doubt, T. Servo and Crow often blamed Canada. Can't do better than their judgment, eh? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 18:30:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA0U66q022710 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:30:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E18D61E600DD; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:25:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B326B1E600DC for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:25:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B756@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 19:17:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14292997 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:17:53 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA07rt04507 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:07:53 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAA07B3W020543 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:07:11 -0500 Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:07:53 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <3FAED65C.79C7026D@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <3FAE5916.6513CCDF@maynor.net> <3FAE8CC3.B84BCDE6@maynor.net> <3FAED65C.79C7026D@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> I have never said that I did not find it attractive. I find many things >> attractive. To me, there is a difference between feeling a "fit" >> (physical, spiritual, mental, etc.) and thinking that one is obligated to >> do something. > >Your last sentence strikes me as quite obvious. I was not lumping >attraction and obligation in any way. I was just asking about why you >would do it if there was neither reason for it. I obviously >misunderstood what you meant when you said "it's not that it is itself >attractive." It's also not that there is a "should" attached to it. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 18:31:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA0VC6q022713 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:31:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D5FD71E600DF; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:26:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5FCB1E600DD for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:26:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B759@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 19:19:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14293038 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:19:00 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA090t04612 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:09:00 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAA08I3W020694 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:08:18 -0500 Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:09:00 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <3FAED684.49F96839@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <20031109190947.39639.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <3FAE9483.89B79AD4@maynor.net> <3FAED684.49F96839@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> Ah, good - you are on your way to the promised land! > >Westward ho! But I really prefer the East. To which are you called? Have you discerned that yet? Let us not forget that discernment is a . Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 18:32:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA0Wk6q022741 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:32:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 33F571E600DC; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:27:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00AB51E600A4 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:27:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B75D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 19:20:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14293072 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:20:34 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA0AYt04729 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:10:34 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAA09q3W020904 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:09:52 -0500 Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:10:34 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109190933.02a62198@pop.gwi.net> Message-ID: References: <3FAE8CC3.B84BCDE6@maynor.net> <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <3FAE5916.6513CCDF@maynor.net> <3FAE8CC3.B84BCDE6@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109190933.02a62198@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, bonniev wrote: >>To me, there is a difference between feeling a "fit" >>(physical, spiritual, mental, etc.) and thinking that one is obligated to >>do something. --Bethany > >I've found that a good philosophy of life is: "just because you can, >doesn't mean you have to". Excellent! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 18:36:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA0aa6q022754 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:36:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F3EC01E600DD; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:31:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2EE31E600A4 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:31:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B771@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 19:24:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14293539 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:24:23 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA0ONt05844 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:24:23 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110002418.RPFZ1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:24:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAEDAB3.166D75DC@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 18:24:19 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <3FAE5916.6513CCDF@maynor.net> <3FAE8CC3.B84BCDE6@maynor.net> <3FAED65C.79C7026D@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >Your last sentence strikes me as quite obvious. I was not lumping > >attraction and obligation in any way. I was just asking about why you > >would do it if there was neither reason for it. I obviously > >misunderstood what you meant when you said "it's not that it is itself > >attractive." > > It's also not that there is a "should" attached to it. See above. That was not in question. I have not lumped those together. They were two different things. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 18:37:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA0bN6q022758 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:37:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1C7A81E600DD; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:32:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1D1D1E600DC for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:32:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B776@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 19:25:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14293603 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:25:11 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA0PAt05992 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:25:10 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAA0P9oe021130 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:25:09 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FAEDA9C.40904@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 18:23:56 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Signing with infants References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Jeez. Get *with it*. We just talked about this earlier in the week. Ann Borkin wrote: > Have you heard about this? Allan's son and daughter in law are signing > with their baby. I'm not sure the kid has the idea down exactly right, > yet - he signs 'moon' at everybody because signing 'moon' at the sky or at > a light thrills his parents enormously. > > http://www.timetosign.com/benefitsofourprogram.html > > Ann > > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 18:40:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA0ei6q022770 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:40:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 167F01E600DF; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:35:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D77241E600DD for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:35:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B790@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 19:28:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14293739 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:28:30 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA0SUt06301 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:28:30 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110002825.RQOC1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:28:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAEDBAA.D6F4C247@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 18:28:26 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness References: <20031109190947.39639.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <3FAE9483.89B79AD4@maynor.net> <3FAED684.49F96839@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >> Ah, good - you are on your way to the promised land! > > > >Westward ho! But I really prefer the East. > > To which are you called? Have you discerned that yet? Well, if I'm bound for the promised land, that means winning the west. But I have known for years that I prefer the eastern part of the country. Iow, I don't want to live any farther west than I do right now. I wouldn't mind living farther east (as long as I kept some property in Mississippi), though I would prefer not to cross the time-zone line since things happen too late in Eastern Time. I *might* watch one of these two tv movies tonight, for example (don't know which one to choose, if I do), even though it would mean staying up past my preferred bedtime. If I were living in Eastern Time, I would consider it totally out of the question. Ain't no way I would start watching a two-hour movie at 9 p.m. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 18:42:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA0gF6q022791 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:42:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CEEE81E600E0; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:37:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD351E600DF for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:37:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B786@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 19:30:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14293775 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:30:02 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA0U2t06473 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:30:02 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAA0Txe6017079 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:30:00 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000a01c3a721$c2a8af20$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <3FAE5916.6513CCDF@maynor.net> <3FAE8CC3.B84BCDE6@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109143927.00b3e2d0@pop.gwi.net> <3FAE9922.50204@swbell.net> <3FAEB66C.A021C07D@maynor.net> <1666641361.20031109155454@WordWrite.com> <3FAEC607.24117DDE@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: mcedness Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:29:53 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > What would be missing would be (1) periods of absolute quiet, (2) access > to the daily offices and the Eucharist, and (3) the challenges and rewards > of living in community among other individuals who value Opus Dei. > > That does not mean that one could not have some sort of life involving > both manual labor and daily prayer - but it would not be the same as > living in community. > > One of the most powerful daily activities at the Abbey is dining - with > all other retreatants - in absolute silence. Talking is not allowed in the > dining hall. > > Bethany One thing seems missing that I have always learned was necessary for a balanced live, even in a spiritual setting, and that is fellowship . . communicating and intermingling with others. This is where one regroups his experience. Is there a place for this in your picture? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 18:42:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA0gL6q022802 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:42:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EE8891E600DF; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:37:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEF971E600DC for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:37:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B779@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 19:30:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14293787 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:30:08 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA0U8t06492 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:30:08 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id C4B4C2B8FC; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:30:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35C632B8FA for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:30:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:30:07 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >I've found that a good philosophy of life is: "just because you can, > >doesn't mean you have to". My problem is more like thinking 'just because I can't, doesn't mean I have to.' Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 18:43:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA0hJ6q022817 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:43:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E89331E600E0; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:38:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B865A1E600DF for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:38:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B792@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 19:31:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14293875 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:31:06 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA0V6t06612 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:31:06 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 04CD52B8FB; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:31:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC9AC2B8F9 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:31:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:31:05 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Signing with infants In-Reply-To: <3FAEDA9C.40904@swbell.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > Jeez. Get *with it*. We just talked about this earlier in > the week. I guess a deleter shouldn't bring up other than very personal topics. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 18:44:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA0iD6q022829 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:44:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ECE731E600DF; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:39:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD4281E600DC for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:39:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D99AA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 19:32:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14293492 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:32:00 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA0M0t05699 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:22:00 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAA0LG3W022699 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:21:17 -0500 Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:21:57 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109191302.00bc8820@pop.gwi.net> Message-ID: References: <3FAEC607.24117DDE@maynor.net> <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <3FAE5916.6513CCDF@maynor.net> <3FAE8CC3.B84BCDE6@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109143927.00b3e2d0@pop.gwi.net> <3FAE9922.50204@swbell.net> <3FAEB66C.A021C07D@maynor.net> <1666641361.20031109155454@WordWrite.com> <3FAEC607.24117DDE@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109191302.00bc8820@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, bonniev wrote: >Yes, I liked that also. Do they have someone reading aloud? We often >did. When we were still in high school, the reading was often not anything >of a religious nature but just an interesting novel. Yes, occasionally during the Christmas season - not always at other times. Sometimes there will be music during Christmas also. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 18:45:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA0j26q022835 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:45:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EE9341E600E0; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:39:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEF5B1E600DF for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:39:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B7A4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 19:32:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14293497 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:32:49 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA0Mnt05760 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:22:49 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAA0M73W022827 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:22:07 -0500 Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:22:49 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <3FAED869.27E0BEBB@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <3FAE5916.6513CCDF@maynor.net> <3FAE8CC3.B84BCDE6@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109143927.00b3e2d0@pop.gwi.net> <3FAE9922.50204@swbell.net> <3FAEB66C.A021C07D@maynor.net> <1666641361.20031109155454@WordWrite.com> <3FAEC607.24117DDE@maynor.net> <3FAED869.27E0BEBB@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> What would be missing would be (1) periods of absolute quiet, (2) access >> to the daily offices and the Eucharist, and (3) the challenges and rewards >> of living in community among other individuals who value Opus Dei. > >Right. That's why I said that the was a crucial ingredient. I see it more as what kind of place than where, geographically. I could go to Kentucky, to Utah, etc. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 18:49:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA0nY6q022860 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:49:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5392D1E600E2; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:44:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24BB41E600E0 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:44:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B79A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 19:37:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14293675 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:37:22 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA0RMt06187 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:27:22 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAA0Qe3W023556 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:26:40 -0500 Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:27:22 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <3FAEDAB3.166D75DC@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <3FAE5916.6513CCDF@maynor.net> <3FAE8CC3.B84BCDE6@maynor.net> <3FAED65C.79C7026D@maynor.net> <3FAEDAB3.166D75DC@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> >Your last sentence strikes me as quite obvious. I was not lumping >> >attraction and obligation in any way. I was just asking about why you >> >would do it if there was neither reason for it. I obviously >> >misunderstood what you meant when you said "it's not that it is itself >> >attractive." >> >> It's also not that there is a "should" attached to it. > >See above. That was not in question. I have not lumped those >together. They were two different things. I know. But it's important to recognize that this is not about . Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 18:51:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA0p36q022871 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:51:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0E6EB1E600E2; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:46:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D17211E600E1 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:45:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B7BF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 19:38:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14294207 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:38:50 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA0cot07421 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:38:50 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hAA0cnsg016848 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:38:50 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:39:25 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <133902172.20031109183925@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: mcedness In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109190704.00bc99c0@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109105417.00ba6c60@pop.gwi.net> <3FADAFE7.1D47D259@maynor.net> <3FAD18D6.A3115EC3@maynor.net> <3FAD8C54.CCA3FCF9@maynor.net> <3FADAFE7.1D47D259@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109105417.00ba6c60@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109190704.00bc99c0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 09, 2003, bonniev wrote: >>But I also recall being told that >>to RCs, the word "secular" (as in the phrase "secular priest") means a >>priest who is not a monastic - right? >>Bethany > I guess it could be used that way. If I remember correctly, we called a > regular priest a Diocesan priest as opposed to a priest who belonged to a > religious order. My memories (for once) concur with yours. Bethany has some strange ideas about "RC's". Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 18:53:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA0rZ6q022903 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:53:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EF4C71E600E1; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:48:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF3691E600E0 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:48:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B7B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 19:41:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14294270 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:41:22 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA0fMt07603 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:41:22 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110004117.BMXZ1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:41:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAEDEAE.593D63F8@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 18:41:18 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <3FAE5916.6513CCDF@maynor.net> <3FAE8CC3.B84BCDE6@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109143927.00b3e2d0@pop.gwi.net> <3FAE9922.50204@swbell.net> <3FAEB66C.A021C07D@maynor.net> <1666641361.20031109155454@WordWrite.com> <3FAEC607.24117DDE@maynor.net> <3FAED869.27E0BEBB@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >Right. That's why I said that the was a crucial ingredient. > > I see it more as what kind of place than where, geographically. I could go > to Kentucky, to Utah, etc. Of course the specific geographical location doesn't matter. I said that earlier. I said that by "the where" I meant "the kind of place." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 18:53:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA0rf6q022907 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:53:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DC3371E600E2; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:48:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACB9B1E600E1 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:48:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B7A8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 19:41:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14294275 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:41:28 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA0fSt07615 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:41:28 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hAA0fRSf022127 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:41:28 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:42:03 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1188522587.20031109184203@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: mcedness In-Reply-To: References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <3FAE5916.6513CCDF@maynor.net> <3FAE8CC3.B84BCDE6@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109143927.00b3e2d0@pop.gwi.net> <3FAE9922.50204@swbell.net> <3FAEB66C.A021C07D@maynor.net> <1666641361.20031109155454@WordWrite.com> <3FAEC607.24117DDE@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 09, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > What would be missing would be (1) periods of absolute quiet, (2) access > to the daily offices and the Eucharist, and (3) the challenges and rewards > of living in community among other individuals who value Opus Dei. I'm telling you, Austin and the Church of Conscious Harmony are calling to you. > One of the most powerful daily activities at the Abbey is dining - with > all other retreatants - in absolute silence. Talking is not allowed in the > dining hall. Ah, yes, one of the things I dislike most about that kind of communal living. Today I learned a new word, though my ET tells me he's heard it a lot: corporate prayer. I think it's a great word. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 18:56:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA0uJ6q022950 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:56:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D3CC31E600E0; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:51:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2B7F1E600DF for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:51:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B7AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 19:44:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14294318 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:44:06 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA0i6t07775 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:44:06 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAA0i1k0000341 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:44:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FAEDF07.5060900@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 18:42:47 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Meldrum Bay References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen wrote: > Still, it's within walking distance of the general store. Ah, nice. Starting up a car can ruin a perfectly good day. > Politically, it's in something with an attractively chaotic name: an > "unorganized township." We lived in an "unincorporated" area until we were annexed very recently. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 19:28:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA1Sm6q023372 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:28:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BA4EE1E600E3; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:23:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B6421E600E2 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:23:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B80C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 20:16:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14295102 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:16:35 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f28.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA1GZt10185 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:16:35 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:16:29 -0800 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 01:16:29 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Meldrum Bay Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 20:16:29 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2003 01:16:29.0439 (UTC) FILETIME=[44FBD0F0:01C3A728] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I wouldn't dare presume to speak for Rashmi, but I think this might be a good destination for 2005, which will give us a year to iron out any unforeseen issues with the physical plant. >From: Natalie Maynor >You failed to answer the last question: > > > >And when is Rashmi going to announce Meldrum Bay as our fest > > >destination? > _________________________________________________________________ >From Beethoven to the Rolling Stones, your favorite music is always playing on MSN Radio Plus. No ads, no talk. Trial month FREE! http://join.msn.com/?page=offers/premiumradio From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 19:34:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA1Y06q023426 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:34:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 02C271E600E8; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:28:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7DE61E600E6 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:28:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B7F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 20:21:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14295185 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:21:47 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f12.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.12]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA1Llt10452 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:21:47 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:21:42 -0800 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 01:21:41 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Meldrum Bay Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 20:21:41 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2003 01:21:42.0202 (UTC) FILETIME=[FF67A9A0:01C3A728] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Once we're both retired, I expect to spend most of the year there. Mary has family ties here, and might prefer to hop back and forth. We actually vacation in the north pretty regularly, including the cold months. We've spent winter holidays in places like Hearst, Ontario (we got there by train), Neebish Island, Michigan (in the St. Mary's River, which drains Lake Superior into Lake Huron), and the Gaspe Peninsula. >From: Natalie Maynor >What about when both of you are retired? Some retired friends of mine >here have a cabin in Ontario and hop back and forth between here and >there a good bit. They spend the majority of their time here but spend >a good many weeks there -- non-consecutive weeks. I don't think they >spend much time there in winter or spring. It's mainly summer and fall. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) _________________________________________________________________ MSN Messenger with backgrounds, emoticons and more. http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/cdp_customize From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 19:36:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA1aS6q023451 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:36:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4FDF51E600E6; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:31:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 220D21E600E3 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:31:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B80B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 20:24:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14295229 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:24:16 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA1OFt10614 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:24:15 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-128.gwi.net [216.195.156.128]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAA1OAAr081374 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:24:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109202348.00bc1460@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 20:24:30 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <3FAEDBAA.D6F4C247@maynor.net> References: <20031109190947.39639.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <3FAE9483.89B79AD4@maynor.net> <3FAED684.49F96839@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >If I were living in Eastern Time, I would consider >it totally out of the question. Ain't no way I would start watching a >two-hour movie at 9 p.m. -- Natalie And that's why god created TIVO and the lowly VCR. You could watch it tomorrow night at 7 p.m. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 19:39:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA1de6q023476 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:39:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9E7F41E600E9; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:34:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FF3F1E600E8 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:34:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D9A3A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 20:27:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14295283 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:27:23 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA1RNt10777 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:27:23 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110012717.RWV1849.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:27:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAEE976.2440C1F6@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 19:27:18 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Meldrum Bay References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen wrote: > > I wouldn't dare presume to speak for Rashmi, but I think this might be a > good destination for 2005, which will give us a year to iron out any > unforeseen issues with the physical plant. Excellent answer! I'm glad I kept on . Where is Rashmi? Does she realize how much we rely on her? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 19:40:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA1eQ6q023492 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:40:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CD82E1E600E8; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:35:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 615C61E600E6 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:35:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B812@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 20:28:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14295306 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:28:13 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA1SDt10836 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:28:13 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-128.gwi.net [216.195.156.128]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAA1S9Ar081871 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:28:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109202516.00bb6bf8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 20:28:29 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > >I've found that a good philosophy of life is: "just because you can, > > >doesn't mean you have to". > >My problem is more like thinking 'just because I can't, doesn't mean I >have to.' --Ann Ah, that's why you are driven to learn so many different things. You must accept that "Just because I can't does not mean I need to learn to." I was watching an old episode of Northern Exposure yesterday. The wise DJ tells the hyperactive doctor that the doctor's problem is that, with quiet all around him, he is faced with the most important question: what is the meaning of my life. What the doctor must accept is that there is no meaning to his life. He must learn to simply sit quietly and do nothing. I'm well on my way to learning and accepting that. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 19:41:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA1fh6q023504 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:41:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A8E481E600E9; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:36:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B5DE1E600E8 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:36:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B808@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 20:29:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14295357 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:29:30 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f49.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA1TUt10927 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:29:30 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:29:24 -0800 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 01:29:24 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Meldrum Bay Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 20:29:24 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2003 01:29:24.0536 (UTC) FILETIME=[12FA3B80:01C3A72A] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor >PS: I'm trying to remember whether you told us about exactly how you >found the cottage. I remember when you reported on having found it and We've vacationed on Manitoulin several times, dating back to the early 90s. The last couple of years we've stayed in a cabin off the grid (no water, no electricity) on the eastern shores of Meldrum Bay. That cabin is a great place to stay for a week, but because it's in a very rugged area, it's a bit tough to get in and out, doesn't have year-round access, and isn't really practical for us. We drove out to the general store one day, saw the for sale sign, and phoned. The sellers weren't using a realtor, and weren't advertising very aggressively (just the sign on the house, which isn't exactly on a thoroughfare), and the place had been for sale for a year. It happened they were coming up that week to close the place for the season, so we were able to meet them and get a tour. Property on Manitoulin is an extraordinary value compared to Michigan or southern Ontario (even though the exchange rate has weakened the dollar by about 20% the last year). We'd considered buying there for some years, and this struck as the perfect situation. _________________________________________________________________ Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $26.95. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 19:42:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA1gb6q023529 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:42:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 217221E600EE; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:37:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E62711E600EC for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:37:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D9A25@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 20:30:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14295413 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:30:24 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA1UOt11063 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:30:24 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-128.gwi.net [216.195.156.128]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAA1U6Gn001122 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:30:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109202957.00bca8f0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 20:30:24 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <1188522587.20031109184203@WordWrite.com> References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <3FAE5916.6513CCDF@maynor.net> <3FAE8CC3.B84BCDE6@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109143927.00b3e2d0@pop.gwi.net> <3FAE9922.50204@swbell.net> <3FAEB66C.A021C07D@maynor.net> <1666641361.20031109155454@WordWrite.com> <3FAEC607.24117DDE@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I'm telling you, Austin and the Church of Conscious Harmony are >calling to you. --Karen STOP THE MADNESS! bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 19:43:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA1h76q023532 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:43:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 01F991E600EE; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:38:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C85861E600EC for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:38:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B829@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 20:30:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14295427 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:30:54 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA1Ust11097 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:30:54 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110013049.SWV1849.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:30:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAEEA4A.1B829980@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 19:30:50 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Meldrum Bay References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen wrote: > > Once we're both retired, I expect to spend most of the year there. Mary has > family ties here, and might prefer to hop back and forth. We actually > vacation in the north pretty regularly, including the cold months. We've > spent winter holidays in places like Hearst, Ontario (we got there by > train), Neebish Island, Michigan (in the St. Mary's River, which drains Lake > Superior into Lake Huron), and the Gaspe Peninsula. It sounds like a good life to me. Once again I'm thinking about that cute little house I saw advertised on the web in Swan Lake, Maine. It sold fast. Hmm. Is this a ? I hate cold weather, yet I have had this about wanting a vacation home in cold places. I've dwelled on it. I feel somewhat schizophrenic about it. Am I compelled to take action? If I am being called, who exactly is the caller? Does there have to be a caller when one is called? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 19:44:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA1iO6q023539 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:44:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3DD631E600EC; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:39:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1086C1E600E6 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:39:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D9A2B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 20:32:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14295453 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:32:12 -0500 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA1WBt11191 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:32:11 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.7e.41289877 (18403) for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:32:00 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <7e.41289877.2ce04490@aol.com> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:32:00 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Espanillegal To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/9/2003 6:17:21 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << If I recall correctly, when in doubt, T. Servo and Crow often blamed Canada. Can't do better than their judgment, eh? >> Oh, I miss that show! Anybody know what Joel and Trace are up to these days? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Trying to make sense of the latest Big O From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 19:47:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA1lr6q023565 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:47:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5F3F01E600EE; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:42:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF3C1E600EC for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:42:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B828@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 20:35:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14295538 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:35:41 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA1Zet11421 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:35:40 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110013535.UJA1849.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:35:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAEEB68.5AE60527@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 19:35:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness References: <20031109190947.39639.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <3FAE9483.89B79AD4@maynor.net> <3FAED684.49F96839@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109202348.00bc1460@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > And that's why god created TIVO and the lowly VCR. You could watch it > tomorrow night at 7 p.m. That thought had crossed my mind. Now that I know that my in-the-tv vcr works (which is what I would have to use for either of those movies since they're not satellite), I could jam a tape in right now and watch it tomorrow night. I think I like this idea. Which one should I watch? I think the reception is pretty close to the same with my cute antenna -- CBS from Columbus or NBC from Tupelo. It used to be that Tupelo was always better, even though it is considerably farther away than Columbus. The fact that CBS seems at least as good now must have something to do with the angling of the cute antenna. I do remember when the man was placing it that I stood inside testing and hollering about where it was best (at his request), and I wanted CBS to be best because of Survivor. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 19:48:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA1mA6q023569 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:48:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A53761E600EC; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:43:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7711C1E600E6 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:43:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B829@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 20:35:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14295553 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:35:57 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA1Zvt11451 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:35:57 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-128.gwi.net [216.195.156.128]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAA1ZsGp001788; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:35:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109203241.00b19888@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 20:35:46 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Meldrum Bay In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:40 PM 11/9/2003 -0500, Marty Rosen wrote: >Very definitely. This isn't exactly the end of the road, but it's past the >village, and the road ends about a half mile from here. Because of >easements and mandatory setbacks, it's impossible for others to build to the >south, or within about 350 feet on the north. And the property extends west >a hundred feet or so on the other side of the road, so it's fairly well >insulated from neighbors. The bed and breakfast is on the other side of the >road, off to the south, but by all accounts it's not a very busy spot. >Still, it's within walking distance of the general store. > >Politically, it's in something with an attractively chaotic name: an >"unorganized township." That strikes a chord---much of northern interior Maine is characterized as "unorganized territory" where the only identifiers of location are Section, Township, and Range. And whoever said that chaos can't be beautiful? (I'd stillopt for a propane kitchen stove, however.) cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 19:50:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA1oR6q023587 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:50:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 267341E600EC; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:45:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAF471E600EA for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:45:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B83B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 20:38:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14295622 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:38:15 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA1cEt11702 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:38:14 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110013809.VEO1849.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:38:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAEEC02.71205548@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 19:38:10 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Meldrum Bay References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen wrote: > We'd considered buying there for some years, and > this struck as the perfect situation. It does indeed seem like the perfect situation. Is buying property in a foreign country more complicated than in one's own country? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 19:54:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA1sO6q023615 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:54:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 162E61E600E6; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:49:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8FC51E600EA for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:49:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B83F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 20:42:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14295677 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:42:11 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA1gBt12087 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:42:11 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAA1g8e6026481 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:42:09 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000601c3a72b$d6b7ade0$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109202516.00bb6bf8@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: Re: mcedness Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:42:01 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Ah, that's why you are driven to learn so many different things. You must > accept that "Just because I can't does not mean I need to learn to." I > was watching an old episode of Northern Exposure yesterday. The wise DJ > tells the hyperactive doctor that the doctor's problem is that, with quiet > all around him, he is faced with the most important question: what is the > meaning of my life. What the doctor must accept is that there is no > meaning to his life. He must learn to simply sit quietly and do > nothing. I'm well on my way to learning and accepting that. > > > bonnie Hmm. Don't think you might miss a few things you could have experienced in this beautiful opportunity to live on earth? Doesn't come around too often. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 19:59:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA1xE6q023631 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:59:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9447D1E600EA; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:54:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 652601E600E6 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:54:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B839@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 20:47:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14295940 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:47:01 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA1l1t12765 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:47:01 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110014656.XSI1849.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:46:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAEEE10.A0ACAFBC@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 19:46:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: ATT: RASHMI References: <3FAEE976.2440C1F6@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Marty Rosen wrote: > > > > I wouldn't dare presume to speak for Rashmi, but I think this might be a > > good destination for 2005, which will give us a year to iron out any > > unforeseen issues with the physical plant. > > Excellent answer! I'm glad I kept on . Where is Rashmi? Does > she realize how much we rely on her? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 20:02:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA2216q023663 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:02:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7E3A31E600EC; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:56:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F58D1E600E6 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:56:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B84C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 20:49:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14296002 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:49:48 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA1nmt12946 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:49:48 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110014943.YON1849.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:49:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAEEEB7.FFF32220@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 19:49:43 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness References: <20031109190947.39639.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <3FAE9483.89B79AD4@maynor.net> <3FAED684.49F96839@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109202348.00bc1460@pop.gwi.net> <3FAEEB68.5AE60527@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > bonniev wrote: > > > And that's why god created TIVO and the lowly VCR. You could watch it > > tomorrow night at 7 p.m. > > That thought had crossed my mind. Now that I know that my in-the-tv vcr And I just acted upon it. A tape is in, set to start recording at 8. I couldn't remember which was which of the movies/networks, so I set it for NBC. Will find out tomorrow night when I watch it which one I'm watching. I hate that both CBS and NBC looked pretty grainy tonight -- that the cute antenna is letting me down a bit. I will not be watching a very clear tape of whichever movie it is. Tis at times like this that I think cable would be better. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 20:05:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA25D6q023693 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:05:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A9D751E600EC; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:00:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A43C1E600EA for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:00:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B854@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 20:53:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14296094 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:53:00 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA1r0t13166 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:53:00 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAA1qr2K026511 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:52:54 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:53:29 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1444625183.20031109195329@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: mcedness In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109202957.00bca8f0@pop.gwi.net> References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <3FAE5916.6513CCDF@maynor.net> <3FAE8CC3.B84BCDE6@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109143927.00b3e2d0@pop.gwi.net> <3FAE9922.50204@swbell.net> <3FAEB66C.A021C07D@maynor.net> <1666641361.20031109155454@WordWrite.com> <3FAEC607.24117DDE@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109202957.00bca8f0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 09, 2003, bonniev wrote: >>I'm telling you, Austin and the Church of Conscious Harmony are >>calling to you. --Karen > STOP THE MADNESS! What madness? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 20:16:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA2GD6q023781 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:16:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E24ED1E600EA; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:11:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF3611E600E6 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:11:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B858@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 21:04:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14296296 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:04:00 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA240t13898 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:04:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110020355.CMSD1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:03:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAEF20C.CADEA9D2@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 20:03:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Illegal Aliens Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU When Doris raised the topic that I had raised a while back, I had hope that perhaps discussion would ensue. But it seems to have died. I'm trying to figure out why -- like why this that is normally leaping all over any topic that comes along seems to dry up on the question of illegal aliens. Why? Rashmi(?) said that it was pointless to discuss it since everybody's comments would be predictable. I didn't understand and still don't. Why would they be predictable? And if they're predictable, can somebody tell me what they would be? Or is it that the topic is so that the reaction is head-shaking and saying, "What an idiot she is not to know what is right or wrong re this situation." That doesn't seem likely to me since that's not the normal Words-L way. The normal would be for somebody to say that flat out -- to say, "You're an idiot," not just to sit in silence. Maybe it's just that people think it's an unimportant topic, though that also seems odd for Words-L, where debates can go on for days about the most minor of topics. And I also don't see how people can think it's unimportant. It strikes me as very much important -- maybe not the most important issue in the country today but still important. It doesn't really matter, I guess, that I can't figure out what I think about it. It's not as if what I think is going to matter in any way. But I have this about thinking that we should all care about pretty much all issues -- that patriotic citizens should and and try to decide what we think about issues facing the country. I guess I should do some more reading on the issue. And about it. I still find it very odd, though, that Wordslers don't seem to have any opinions or thoughts to offer on the subject. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 20:33:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA2Xl6q023918 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:33:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F21BC1E600ED; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:28:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3DB81E600EA for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:28:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B897@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 21:21:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14296885 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:21:34 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAA2LYt15244 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:21:34 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 18:21:29 PST Message-ID: <20031110022129.66022.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:21:29 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Have I asked this before? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <29.4abaae5f.2ce01adf@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > What would happen if a pedestrian is crossing with > the > WALK light and the light changes because of one of > these > gadgets while he is in the middle? Another case of > Pedestrian Polo? It's really hard to believe they allowed these things to hit the market without any type of controls on their use. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 20:33:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA2Xx6q023921 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:33:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3E9061E600ED; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:28:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 117421E600EA for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:28:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B898@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 21:21:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14296415 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:21:46 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA2Bjt14310 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:11:45 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAA2B13W009026 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:11:03 -0500 Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:11:43 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <3FAEDBAA.D6F4C247@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <20031109190947.39639.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <3FAE9483.89B79AD4@maynor.net> <3FAED684.49F96839@maynor.net> <3FAEDBAA.D6F4C247@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> >> Ah, good - you are on your way to the promised land! >> > >> >Westward ho! But I really prefer the East. >> >> To which are you called? Have you discerned that yet? > >Well, if I'm bound for the promised land, that means winning the west. Natalie, you crack me up! (But I don't know whether you do it intentionally!) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 20:36:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA2aO6q023948 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:36:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 653F11E600F0; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:31:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35B171E600ED for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:31:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B8B5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 21:24:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14296599 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:24:11 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA2EBt14615 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:14:11 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAA2DS3W009405 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:13:28 -0500 Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:14:10 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <000a01c3a721$c2a8af20$e1cadece@0018079268> Message-ID: References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <3FAE5916.6513CCDF@maynor.net> <3FAE8CC3.B84BCDE6@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109143927.00b3e2d0@pop.gwi.net> <3FAE9922.50204@swbell.net> <3FAEB66C.A021C07D@maynor.net> <1666641361.20031109155454@WordWrite.com> <3FAEC607.24117DDE@maynor.net> <000a01c3a721$c2a8af20$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Doris Markland wrote: >One thing seems missing that I have always learned was >necessary for a balanced live, even in a spiritual setting, >and that is fellowship . . communicating and intermingling >with others. This is where one regroups his experience. >Is there a place for this in your picture? Oh, yes. All daily offices are communal, and there are other opportunities. (I don't know exactly what you mean by "regroups.") One is seldom except when one is sleeping - or praying in solitude. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 20:37:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA2bt6q023955 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:37:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7FF861E600F0; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:32:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51AD31E600EE for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:32:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B8B8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 21:25:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14296669 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:25:42 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA2Fft14782 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:15:41 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAA2Ex3W009687 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:14:59 -0500 Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:15:41 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <133902172.20031109183925@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109105417.00ba6c60@pop.gwi.net> <3FADAFE7.1D47D259@maynor.net> <3FAD18D6.A3115EC3@maynor.net> <3FAD8C54.CCA3FCF9@maynor.net> <3FADAFE7.1D47D259@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109105417.00ba6c60@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109190704.00bc99c0@pop.gwi.net> <133902172.20031109183925@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >Bethany has some strange ideas about "RC's". Hmmm. I do not recall sharing any ideas I have about RCs - what are you thinking of? IIRC, all I have shared is what I have been told (mostly by monks) about terminology. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 20:38:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA2cZ6q023959 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:38:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 854001E600EE; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:33:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 578491E600ED for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:33:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B8B9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 21:26:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14296687 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:26:22 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA2GMt14827 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:16:22 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAA2Fd3W009783 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:15:40 -0500 Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:16:22 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <1188522587.20031109184203@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <3FAE5916.6513CCDF@maynor.net> <3FAE8CC3.B84BCDE6@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109143927.00b3e2d0@pop.gwi.net> <3FAE9922.50204@swbell.net> <3FAEB66C.A021C07D@maynor.net> <1666641361.20031109155454@WordWrite.com> <3FAEC607.24117DDE@maynor.net> <1188522587.20031109184203@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >Today I learned a new word, though my ET tells me he's heard it a lot: >corporate prayer. I think it's a great word. Indeed! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 20:40:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA2ev6q024026 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:40:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 172B61E600F0; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:35:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAE5C1E600EE for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:35:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B8A7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 21:28:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14297020 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:28:08 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA2S8t15691 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:28:08 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110022803.QDFG1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:28:03 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAEF7B4.75A5C8BD@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 20:28:04 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness References: <20031109190947.39639.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <3FAE9483.89B79AD4@maynor.net> <3FAED684.49F96839@maynor.net> <3FAEDBAA.D6F4C247@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >Well, if I'm bound for the promised land, that means winning the west. > > Natalie, you crack me up! (But I don't know whether you do it > intentionally!) Why am I cracking you up? "Bound for the promised land" rings strong in my memory of enjoying the soundtrack of "How the West Was Won." I can't remember whether I saw the movie. I remember the album, not the movie. I probably still have that record in my junkroom, though no way to play it. And that reminds me, I saw somewhere not long ago an old-fashioned-looking record player (as in it was intended to look quaint and old-fashioned) that said it would play any records. I think we discussed such devices here at some point. I must've seen it in Jackson last weekend. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 20:42:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA2gf6q024054 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:42:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3CD981E600F1; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:37:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08FD61E600ED for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:37:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B8AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 21:30:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14297071 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:30:27 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAA2Tgt15841 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:29:42 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 18:29:37 PST Message-ID: <20031110022937.64333.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:29:37 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: mcedness To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1385613657.20031109154723@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > Huh? My limited understanding of addictions is that > you are always > considered to have it, that it never goes away. Once > an alcoholic, for > example, always an alcoholic. Ny limited experience of addiction leads me to believe that your understanding is correct. It all started out with Bookworm... __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 20:42:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA2ge6q024053 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:42:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 04CC21E600F0; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:37:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C72BC1E600ED for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:37:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B8BA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 21:30:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14297064 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:29:41 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA2Tft15836 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:29:41 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 2976D2B8E8; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:29:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D80E2B56F for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:29:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:29:39 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109202516.00bb6bf8@pop.gwi.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >My problem is more like thinking 'just because I can't, doesn't mean I > >have to.' --Ann > > Ah, that's why you are driven to learn so many different things. You must > accept that "Just because I can't does not mean I need to learn to." I Well actually (thanks for understanding what I meant) I'm not ready to give this up. I called it a problem but actually I don't think it is a problem, yet, anyway. I agree with your position on Meaning. (but I think we've agreed on this already). Sitting quietly and doing nothing? Well I think use it or lose it, having watched my mother train herself into torpor and inertia. But I suppose you mean an alert, almost athletic sitting. Is there a Zen center near you, I wonder? However, I think erging could count as sitting quietly and doing nothing, actually, what do you think. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 20:45:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA2jF6q024076 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:45:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ACBE41E600F0; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:40:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 799411E600EE for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:40:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D9AEB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 21:33:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14297137 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:33:02 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA2X2t16079 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:33:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110023256.QFCN1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:32:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAEF8DA.BF6B6757@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 20:32:58 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <3FAE5916.6513CCDF@maynor.net> <3FAE8CC3.B84BCDE6@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109143927.00b3e2d0@pop.gwi.net> <3FAE9922.50204@swbell.net> <3FAEB66C.A021C07D@maynor.net> <1666641361.20031109155454@WordWrite.com> <3FAEC607.24117DDE@maynor.net> <000a01c3a721$c2a8af20$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Doris Markland wrote: > > >One thing seems missing that I have always learned was > >necessary for a balanced live, even in a spiritual setting, > >and that is fellowship . . communicating and intermingling > >with others. This is where one regroups his experience. > >Is there a place for this in your picture? > > Oh, yes. All daily offices are communal, and there are other > opportunities. (I don't know exactly what you mean by "regroups.") One is > seldom except when one is sleeping - or praying in solitude. Iirc, Doris wrote that in response to the mention of required silence at meals. If one is communally eating, then one is not alone physically. But communication would be . You would've liked that Russian monastery on the island that used to belong to Finland, Bethany. We ate in the monastery dining hall. But we talked. We didn't eat with the residents. They ate before we did. I bet they didn't talk. The meal and the setting were rather spartan but also interesting. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 20:46:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA2kx6q024081 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:46:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8F9DD1E600EE; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:41:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D8911E600ED for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:41:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B8CF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 21:34:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14297169 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:34:46 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA2Ykt16180 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:34:46 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110023440.QFUN1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:34:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAEF941.D1EC0D58@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 20:34:41 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness References: <20031110022937.64333.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > that your understanding is correct. It all started > out with Bookworm... I had forgotten about Bookworm! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 20:50:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA2oQ6q024088 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:50:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3264B1E600F1; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:45:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 003441E600F0 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:45:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B8C6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 21:38:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14297321 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:38:13 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA2cCt16443 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:38:12 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAA2c62K001885 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:38:10 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:38:41 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1733366295.20031109203841@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: mcedness In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 09, 2003, Ann Borkin wrote: > Sitting quietly and doing nothing? Sitting in silence is NOT the same as doing nothing. > But I suppose you mean an alert, almost athletic sitting. LOL. > Is there a Zen center near you, I wonder? When we were talking about corporate prayer this morning, the comparison of Zen and Quakerism came up. Zen practitioners feel at home in Quaker meeting--till people start doing vocal worship. > However, I think erging could count as sitting quietly and > doing nothing, actually, what do you think. I think you've never erged. It's the antithesis of sitting quietly. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 20:51:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA2pq6q024093 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:51:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E60C11E600EE; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:46:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B83581E600ED for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:46:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B8E6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 21:39:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14297445 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:39:39 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA2ddt16655 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:39:39 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110023934.QHWS1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:39:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAEFA67.72FF466B@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 20:39:35 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin wrote: > watched my mother train herself into torpor and inertia. I think that is something that happens to people (not all people -- some people) in old age. My mother continued to work crossword puzzles and read the newspaper, but she in many ways did seem to train herself into torpor and inertia in her late 80s. It surprised me because she had not been one I would have expected that of. I'm not sure whether it is a physical or a mental shutting down. And I'm not sure whether it's bad. It of course seems bad to those of us on the . But I don't really know. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 20:52:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA2ql6q024106 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:52:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9B7201E600EE; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:47:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67F901E600ED for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:47:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B8F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 21:40:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14297503 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:40:34 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA2eYt16812 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:40:34 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-128.gwi.net [216.195.156.128]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAA2eSAr091136 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:40:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109213813.00bc3e80@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 21:40:49 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109202516.00bb6bf8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Sitting quietly and doing nothing? Well I think use it or lose it, having >watched my mother train herself into torpor and inertia. But I suppose >you mean an alert, almost athletic sitting. Is there a Zen center near >you, I wonder? However, I think erging could count as sitting quietly and >doing nothing, actually, what do you think. --Ann There is a Zen center not too far away from me. I considered it. Yes, I do think erging and knitting are two ways of sitting quietly and doing nothing. I do think though that true would be what Espen does. I don't do that but often think I should. I try to quiet my mind and focus on nothing during the twelve minutes it takes to do a Tai Chi set. But I am never successful. In fact, I am appalled at the variety of thoughts that flit through my mind during those 12 minutes. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 20:54:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA2sX6q024130 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:54:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4E3961E600EE; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:49:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F0F21E600ED for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:49:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B90A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 21:42:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14297624 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:42:20 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAA2gJt17130 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:42:19 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 18:42:19 PST Message-ID: <20031110024219.97322.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:42:19 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: mcedness To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <001301c3a70e$24760180$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > But you were talking about "me mother." That's just half Irish. "Me mither" is 100% Irish. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 20:54:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA2sX6q024133 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:54:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8BA091E600EE; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:49:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E02C1E600ED for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:49:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B90B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 21:42:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14297628 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:42:20 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA2gJt17129 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:42:19 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-128.gwi.net [216.195.156.128]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAA2gEAr091391 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:42:15 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109214203.00bb74f8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 21:42:34 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <1733366295.20031109203841@WordWrite.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I think you've never erged. It's the antithesis of sitting quietly. >Karen I don't think so. I feel more focused when erging than at any other time. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 20:59:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA2xB6q024171 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:59:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 35B4D1E600EE; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:54:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0350E1E600ED for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:54:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D9B23@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 21:46:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14297872 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:46:57 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA2jtt17611 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:45:55 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hAA2jmSf003527 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:45:51 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:46:24 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <28584559.20031109204624@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: mcedness In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109213813.00bc3e80@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109202516.00bb6bf8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109213813.00bc3e80@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 09, 2003, bonniev wrote: > Yes, I do think erging and knitting are two ways of sitting quietly and > doing nothing. I consider the time I spend petting Burl as meditation time. > In fact, I am appalled at the variety of > thoughts that flit through my mind during those 12 minutes. One of the things that appeals to me about Quakerism over Zen is that Quakers don't care what you think about as long as you sit in silence for an hour. There's no discussion of monkey mind or quieting your mind or any of that crap. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 20:59:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA2xB6q024174 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:59:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 731EF1E600F0; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:54:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 409A01E600ED for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:54:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D9B08@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 21:46:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14297876 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:46:58 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAA2jvt17615 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:45:57 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 18:45:52 PST Message-ID: <20031110024552.55431.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:45:52 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Signing with infants To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Ann Borkin wrote: > Have you heard about this? Allan's son and daughter > in law are signing > with their baby. I'm not sure the kid has the idea > down exactly right, > yet - he signs 'moon' at everybody because signing > 'moon' at the sky or at > a light thrills his parents enormously. Surely it's like any language, the earlier the better. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 20:59:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA2xE6q024177 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:59:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B1F0C1E600EE; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:54:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 842511E600ED for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:54:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B933@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 21:47:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14297203 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:47:01 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA2Zdt16262 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:35:39 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAA2Ys3W012774 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:34:56 -0500 Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:35:36 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <3FAEF7B4.75A5C8BD@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <20031109190947.39639.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <3FAE9483.89B79AD4@maynor.net> <3FAED684.49F96839@maynor.net> <3FAEDBAA.D6F4C247@maynor.net> <3FAEF7B4.75A5C8BD@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> >Well, if I'm bound for the promised land, that means winning the west. >> >> Natalie, you crack me up! (But I don't know whether you do it >> intentionally!) > >Why am I cracking you up? "Bound for the promised land" rings strong in >my memory of enjoying the soundtrack of "How the West Was Won." I can't Okay. It has a number of other associations also. I was amused that you selected only that one to play with - as though there were no others. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 21:03:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA33t6q024240 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:03:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5D6261E600F1; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:58:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F3671E600F0 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:58:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B950@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 21:51:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14298210 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:51:42 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA2pft18379 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:51:41 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAA2pYvi007229 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:51:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:52:08 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1086602604.20031109205208@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: mcedness In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109214203.00bb74f8@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109214203.00bb74f8@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 09, 2003, bonniev wrote: >>I think you've never erged. It's the antithesis of sitting quietly. >>Karen > I don't think so. I feel more focused when erging than at any other time. Well, you have to be. But being focused isn't the same as sitting quietly. Even knitting isn't the same as sitting quietly, unless you're doing something that's straight knitting. When you're erging, you're experiencing what Csikszentmihalyi calls 'flow'. But we've talked about this before. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 21:05:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA35p6q024254 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:05:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A166B1E600F0; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:00:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 735191E600EE for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:00:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B955@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 21:53:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14298269 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:53:38 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAA2rct18571 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:53:38 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 18:53:33 PST Message-ID: <20031110025333.71282.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:53:33 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Signing with infants To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FAEDA9C.40904@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Rita Chapman wrote: > Jeez. Get *with it*. We just talked about > this earlier in > the week. I missed it, as well. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 21:13:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA3Dk6q024325 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:13:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 216561E600F0; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:08:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C351E600EE for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:08:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B95F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 22:01:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14298453 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:01:32 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA31Wt19136 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:01:32 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110030127.QQJU1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:01:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAEFF88.4584DC53@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 21:01:28 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Signing with infants References: <20031110025333.71282.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > --- Rita Chapman wrote: > > Jeez. Get *with it*. We just talked about > > this earlier in > > the week. > > I missed it, as well. My memory is that there was just a tiny reference to it. Probably we talked about it at greater length back whenever it was first making news. I don't really remember that, though. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 21:15:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA3FU6q024334 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:15:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CECCC1E600F0; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:10:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C06F1E600EE for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:10:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B96A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 22:03:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14298543 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:03:16 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA33Gt19386 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:03:16 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110030311.QQYX1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:03:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAEFFF0.CBA5194E@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 21:03:12 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109214203.00bb74f8@pop.gwi.net> <1086602604.20031109205208@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Well, you have to be. But being focused isn't the same as sitting > quietly. Even knitting isn't the same as sitting quietly, unless > you're doing something that's straight knitting. And sitting quietly accomplishes exactly what? I think it might have been mentioned, but I've forgotten. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 21:21:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA3L26q024371 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:21:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0A4BF1E600EE; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:15:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC2DA1E600EA for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:15:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B982@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 22:08:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14298790 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:08:48 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAA38mt19803 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:08:48 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 19:08:43 PST Message-ID: <20031110030843.70261.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:08:43 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FAEF20C.CADEA9D2@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > When Doris raised the topic that I had raised a > while back, I had hope > that perhaps discussion would ensue. But it seems > to have died. I'm > trying to figure out why -- like why this > that is normally > leaping all over any topic that comes along seems to > dry up on the > question of illegal aliens. Why? It is a seriously important subject. I believe there are tidbits of the reasons you have mentioned that account for the silence. Perhaps meebers feel their opinions or those of others will be foregone conclusions, as Rashmi suggested. Perhaps there is an element of confusion as to which aliens we are talking about, as you have suggested. Also, it is a multi-level problem with countless nuances involved. I am speaking only for myself when I plead that I feel I may not be able to grasp all of the points that such a discussion would entail. Perhaps a theoretical situation with a given set of variables would be the easiest place to start. Over to you, Natalie. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 21:27:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA3Rt6q024402 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:27:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1549B1E600EE; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:22:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB7D01E600EA for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:22:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001D9B58@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 22:15:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14299004 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:15:41 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA3Fft20371 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:15:41 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAA3Fbvi025723 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:15:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:16:13 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <4710539341.20031109211613@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: mcedness In-Reply-To: <3FAEFFF0.CBA5194E@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109214203.00bb74f8@pop.gwi.net> <1086602604.20031109205208@WordWrite.com> <3FAEFFF0.CBA5194E@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 09, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > And sitting quietly accomplishes exactly what? I think it might have > been mentioned, but I've forgotten. Since when did you get so goal oriented? I do it because I like doing it and I like the people I do it with a lot. (I include Burl in that.) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 21:29:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA3T66q024410 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:29:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 26BE91E600F0; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:24:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7F6B1E600EB for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:24:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B9A5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 22:16:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14299058 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:16:52 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA3Gqt20472 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:16:52 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <200311100316470120072crae> (Authid: adamh1); Mon, 10 Nov 2003 03:16:47 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: mcedness Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:16:46 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109213813.00bc3e80@pop.gwi.net> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > does. I don't do that but often think I should. I try to quiet my mind > and focus on nothing during the twelve minutes it takes to do a Tai Chi > set. But I am never successful. In fact, I am appalled at the variety of > thoughts that flit through my mind during those 12 minutes. When I ride my exercycle, I listen to Hooked on Classics stuff (very good to exercise to) and the only thoughts I have are WHEN will this @$%@#%@#%@$% level be over? (each level in my cycle is 1:15). Well, that, and "gotta go at least 95 RPM." For me, it's a remarkably thought-free time that I've grudgingly grown accustomed to looking forward to. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 21:30:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA3UI6q024424 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:30:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 94BD71E600F2; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:25:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 667B81E600F0 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:25:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B9A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 22:18:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14299078 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:18:05 -0500 Received: from mx3.homestore.com (mx3.homestore.com [209.74.97.90]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA3I5t20564 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:18:05 -0500 Received: from sto01htp046 (unknown [10.0.5.74]) by mx3.homestore.com (Postfix) with SMTP id F3EF6AF08 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:18:03 -0800 (PST) From: Natalie To: Wordslers Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 03:18:03 (GMT) Organization: REALTOR.com X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Reply-To: natalie@maynor.net X-mailer: AspMail 3.53 (SMTP17B682) Subject: REALTOR.com Listing #654145 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20031110031803.F3EF6AF08@mx3.homestore.com> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Feeling a calling: ---------- Take a look at this property I found on REALTOR.com: http://www.realtor.com/Prop/1031128490 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 21:33:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA3Xh6q024439 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:33:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A61FC1E600F0; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:28:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 741701E600EB for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:28:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D9B84@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 22:21:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14299149 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:21:30 -0500 Received: from mx3.homestore.com (mx3.homestore.com [209.74.97.91]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA3LUt20751 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:21:30 -0500 Received: from sto01htp002 (unknown [206.131.171.224]) by mx3.homestore.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 303F25A44 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:21:29 -0800 (PST) From: Natalie To: Wordslers Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 03:19:53 (GMT) Organization: REALTOR.com X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Reply-To: natalie@maynor.net X-mailer: AspMail 3.53 (SMTP17B682) Subject: REALTOR.com Listing #598675 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20031110032129.303F25A44@mx3.homestore.com> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I for sure don't want an 8-bedroom house, but it occurred to me that this might make a nice Wordsler lodge. ---------- Take a look at this property I found on REALTOR.com: http://www.realtor.com/Prop/1023649708 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 21:37:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA3bL6q024494 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:37:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C1EC91E600F1; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:32:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 887FC1E600F0 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:32:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B99A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 22:25:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14299256 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:25:07 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA3P7t21072 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:25:07 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110032502.YKYK1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:25:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAF050F.100C8C73@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 21:25:03 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens References: <20031110030843.70261.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Perhaps a theoretical situation with a given set of > variables would be the easiest place to start. Over > to you, Natalie. Tomorrow. I'm about to turn off the computer and go have interesting dreams. I dreamed a couple of nights ago about Bernardykins. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 21:40:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA3e16q024538 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:40:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 319691E600F0; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:34:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 037CE1E600EB for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:34:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B9B4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 22:27:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14299372 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:27:36 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA3Rat21321 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:27:36 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.156.219]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110032731.YLOJ1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:27:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAF05A4.7F94120D@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 21:27:32 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109214203.00bb74f8@pop.gwi.net> <1086602604.20031109205208@WordWrite.com> <3FAEFFF0.CBA5194E@maynor.net> <4710539341.20031109211613@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > And sitting quietly accomplishes exactly what? I think it might have > > been mentioned, but I've forgotten. > > Since when did you get so goal oriented? I don't think I'm particularly goal oriented. It's just that I can't quite imagine sitting and doing nothing. Life is too full of things I want to do for me to feel any desire to just sit. That's why I asked what it accomplishes -- as in what's the point -- as in why waste the time to sit quietly. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 21:44:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA3iX6q024558 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:44:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 411C81E600F0; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:39:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F2581E600EB for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:39:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B9C9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 22:32:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14299477 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:32:20 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA3WJt21743 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:32:19 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAA3VnVs013693 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:31:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FAF0674.8090006@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 21:31:00 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield wrote: >>does. I don't do that but often think I should. I try to quiet my mind >>and focus on nothing during the twelve minutes it takes to do a Tai Chi >>set. But I am never successful. In fact, I am appalled at the variety of >>thoughts that flit through my mind during those 12 minutes. >> > > When I ride my exercycle, I listen to Hooked on Classics stuff (very good to > exercise to) and the only thoughts I have are WHEN will this @$%@#%@#%@$% > level be over? (each level in my cycle is 1:15). Well, that, and "gotta go > at least 95 RPM." For me, it's a remarkably thought-free time that I've > grudgingly grown accustomed to looking forward to. When I ride, it is NOT a thought-free experience (otherwise, I'd be real hurt real quick) -- but I am focused completely on what I'm doing and not all my problems. That's more therapeutic than spiritual. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 21:45:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA3jZ6q024587 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:45:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ACDF11E600F3; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:40:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 799841E600F1 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:40:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B9C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 22:33:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14299519 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:33:21 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA3XKt21806 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:33:20 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id BC8272B902; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:33:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3E082B900 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:33:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:33:19 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <3FAF05A4.7F94120D@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > what it accomplishes -- as in what's the point -- as in why waste the > time to sit quietly. If you're REALLY quiet, it feels good and gives you clean, not anxiety-driven, energy. As for wasting time, well I think an hour sitting quietly is better spent than say watching Survivor. But that's a cheap knock - substitute something else if you can. It's all in what you value, of course, the judgment 'wasting time.' Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 21:46:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA3kH6q024592 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:46:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 251B41E600F1; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:41:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EABE21E600F0 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:41:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B9C3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 22:34:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14299526 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:34:03 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA3Y3t21841 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:34:03 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAA3Y2eO027162 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:34:02 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAA3Y0a2027140; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:34:01 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031109193459.00a9c7d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 19:36:00 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109213813.00bc3e80@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:16 PM 11/9/2003 -0500, Adam Hartfield wrote: > > does. I don't do that but often think I should. I try to quiet my mind > > and focus on nothing during the twelve minutes it takes to do a Tai Chi > > set. But I am never successful. In fact, I am appalled at the variety of > > thoughts that flit through my mind during those 12 minutes. > >When I ride my exercycle, I listen to Hooked on Classics stuff (very good to >exercise to) and the only thoughts I have are WHEN will this @$%@#%@#%@$% >level be over? (each level in my cycle is 1:15). Well, that, and "gotta go >at least 95 RPM." For me, it's a remarkably thought-free time that I've >grudgingly grown accustomed to looking forward to. > >--Adam I read the newspaper. I keep forgetting to get more batteries for my radio. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 21:50:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA3oV6q024600 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:50:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 408901E600F1; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:45:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E1921E600F0 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:45:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3B9D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 22:38:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14299660 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:38:18 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA3cHt22125 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:38:17 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAA3cGeO029764 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:38:16 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAA3cEa2029757; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:38:15 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031109193757.00a9ce80@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 19:40:14 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: REALTOR.com Listing #654145 In-Reply-To: <20031110031803.F3EF6AF08@mx3.homestore.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I can't remember why you were drawn to Belfast. I liked that area you were first drawn to near. Richard. Betty At 10:18 PM 11/9/2003 -0500, Natalie wrote: >Feeling a calling: > >---------- >Take a look at this property I found on REALTOR.com: >http://www.realtor.com/Prop/1031128490 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 21:52:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA3qM6q024611 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:52:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E381F1E600F3; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:47:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B449E1E600F1 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:47:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3B9E5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 22:40:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14299733 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:40:08 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA3e8t22257 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:40:08 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAA3e7eO031643 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:40:07 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAA3e5a2031622; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:40:06 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031109194054.00aa2ed0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 19:42:05 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: REALTOR.com Listing #598675 In-Reply-To: <20031110032129.303F25A44@mx3.homestore.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This is much nicer. You could rent out the rooms. You need to do it the way Marty did. Walk around an area that you would like to spend more time. Find something. At 10:21 PM 11/9/2003 -0500, Natalie wrote: >http://www.realtor.com/Prop/1023649708 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 22:01:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA41Y6q024644 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:01:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BCF0F1E600F1; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:56:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B2761E600F0 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:56:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3B9FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 22:49:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14300216 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:49:20 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA3nKt23100 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:49:20 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAA3nH2K026968 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:49:18 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:49:53 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <588658519.20031109214953@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: mcedness In-Reply-To: <3FAF05A4.7F94120D@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109214203.00bb74f8@pop.gwi.net> <1086602604.20031109205208@WordWrite.com> <3FAEFFF0.CBA5194E@maynor.net> <4710539341.20031109211613@WordWrite.com> <3FAF05A4.7F94120D@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 09, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> > And sitting quietly accomplishes exactly what? I think it might have >> > been mentioned, but I've forgotten. >> >> Since when did you get so goal oriented? > I don't think I'm particularly goal oriented. It's just that I can't > quite imagine sitting and doing nothing. Sitting quietly is NOT the same as 'sitting and doing nothing'. > Life is too full of things I want to do for me to feel any desire to > just sit. That's why I asked what it accomplishes -- as in what's > the point -- as in why waste the time to sit quietly. Okay. Then don't sit. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 22:24:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA4O66q024863 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:24:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2F3AE1E600F4; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:19:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECE441E600F1 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:19:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001D9D31@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 23:11:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14302970 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 23:11:52 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA4Bpt26027 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 23:11:51 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAA4Bme6016178 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:11:49 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002801c3a740$be39a420$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031110022937.64333.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> <3FAEF941.D1EC0D58@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: mcedness Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:11:39 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Lynne Weber wrote: > > > > that your understanding is correct. It all started > > out with Bookworm... > > I had forgotten about Bookworm! > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) She's not hooked, Lynne. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 23:05:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA55o6q025176 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 23:05:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 275571E600F6; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 23:00:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECA791E600F4 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 23:00:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3BCE3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 9 Nov 2003 23:53:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14306514 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 23:53:35 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA4rZt31134 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 23:53:35 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAA4rWe6014985 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:53:33 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000801c3a746$924bdb20$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Flying by the Seat of His Pants Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:53:23 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hAA55o6q025176 Just had a call from the lite kernel. He's home. Left there yesterday when he had a chance to ride to Germany on a MediVac plane. No planes going out from there, so he grabbed a cab for a one hour ride to another base, where a plane was just loading and he made it. Landed in So. Carolina, rented a car and drove home, completely surprising his family at 8:00 a.m. 30 hour trip in all, still in his flight suit from working Friday. He's been gone this time over 4 months. His little girl turned 2 this week and he has been with her only a few months out of her life. Hope he's home long enough to get acquainted. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 23:30:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA5UI6q025458 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 23:30:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 56C821E600F6; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 23:25:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 247D81E6009F for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 23:25:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3BDF1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 0:18:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14308929 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 00:17:22 -0500 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA5GNt01751 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 00:16:23 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.6b.1c0f0eac (26116) for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 00:16:10 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <6b.1c0f0eac.2ce0791a@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 00:16:10 EST Subject: Re: Cool anniversary present To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/9/2003 3:28:51 PM, Karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: >Happy Anniversary, too.:) >From me too, although you're just a baby! There's no way I could remember our 9th! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 23:30:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA5Um6q025463 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 23:30:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4FA621E600F6; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 23:25:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2010E1E6009F for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 23:25:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3BE06@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 0:18:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14308904 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 00:17:22 -0500 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA5Fkt01716 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 00:15:46 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.167.27e4be36 (26116) for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 00:15:35 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <167.27e4be36.2ce078f7@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 00:15:35 EST Subject: Re: Meldrum Bay To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/9/2003 3:48:29 PM, meeberphobia@HOTMAIL.COM writes: >so here's a quick, no frills, web tour of >the new cottage. > Lovely little place; but I wouldn't be too quick replacing the stove. We had a coal stove when I was growing up, and they don't provide too much heat, and I suppose a woodstove would give off even less. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 23:34:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA5YZ6q025479 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 23:34:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 503581E600F6; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 23:29:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2229C1E6009F for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 23:29:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D9FD2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 0:22:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14309418 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 00:22:20 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAA5MKt02555 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 00:22:20 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 21:22:15 PST Message-ID: <20031110052215.88852.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:22:15 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Flying by the Seat of His Pants To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <000801c3a746$924bdb20$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > Just had a call from the lite kernel. > He's home. Left there yesterday when > he had a chance to ride to Germany on a > MediVac plane. No planes going out from > there, so he grabbed a cab for a one hour > ride to another base, where a plane was > just loading and he made it. Landed in > So. Carolina, rented a car and drove home, > completely surprising his family at 8:00 a.m. > 30 hour trip in all, still in his flight suit from > working Friday. > > He's been gone this time over 4 months. > His little girl turned 2 this week and he has > been with her only a few months out of her life. > Hope he's home long enough to get acquainted. > > - D. M. I know you are SO PLEASED he could make it there. YaY! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 23:42:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA5gk6q025528 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 23:42:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 60AF81E600FE; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 23:37:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337FE1E600FC for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 23:37:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3BE64@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 0:30:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14309628 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 00:30:32 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA5UVt03318 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 00:30:32 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <20031110053024016007ksgle>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:30:24 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109073155.032dfd00@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 21:29:52 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: McJob In-Reply-To: <3FAE56E4.1D8838D2@maynor.net> References: <20031109042558.98805.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> <000f01c3a67b$90a7a540$e1cadece@0018079268> <724423272.20031108225159@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109055359.03c02b80@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, >What about kleenex? Has it lost its trademark rights yet? No, but it's on the edge. >I had always thought of Linux as mainly for computer geeks. Has it >changed to something easier for ? There are versions of it now that deal with most of the complexity so users don't have to. I haven't really compared, but I wouldn't be surprised to find the OS is easier and friendlier to use than Windows for the average user. Which is still different than being easier for . BTW, I may have said this before, but I'm really happy with Firebird as a replacement for IE. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 23:43:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA5hf6q025546 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 23:43:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2C3111E600F6; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 23:38:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E27591E6009F for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 23:38:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001D9FE7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 0:31:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14309640 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 00:31:26 -0500 Received: from imo-m03.mx.aol.com (imo-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.6]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA5VQt03386 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 00:31:26 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1ee.12da4d29 (26116) for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 00:31:15 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1ee.12da4d29.2ce07ca3@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 00:31:15 EST Subject: Re: Signing with infants To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/9/2003 5:36:10 PM, dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM writes: >http://www.timetosign.com/benefitsofourprogram.html I read somewhere that being breastfed also increases your IQ! FYI, I was, and all my children as well. No further comment :-) Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 9 23:54:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA5s66q025646 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 23:54:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D86AF1E600F6; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 23:49:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A52EE1E6009F for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 23:49:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3BE6E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 0:41:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14309939 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 00:41:51 -0500 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA5fpt04293 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 00:41:51 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.154.270b61c7 (26116) for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 00:41:43 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <154.270b61c7.2ce07f17@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 00:41:43 EST Subject: Re: Signing with infants To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/9/2003 9:01:50 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >My memory is that there was just a tiny reference to it. Probably we >talked about it at greater length back whenever it was first making >news. I don't really remember that, though. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > Well, don't feel bad. I read everything, but I didn't remember it being discussed until I saw it today. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 00:02:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA62P6q025726 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 00:02:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7B3E01E600FE; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 23:57:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49EDF1E600FC for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 23:57:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3BE78@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 0:50:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14310049 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 00:50:11 -0500 Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com (imo-r06.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.102]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA5oBt05070 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 00:50:11 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.5b.4155e6a7 (26116) for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 00:50:02 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <5b.4155e6a7.2ce0810a@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 00:50:02 EST Subject: Re: REALTOR.com Listing #598675 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/9/2003 9:21:37 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >I for sure don't want an 8-bedroom house, but it occurred to me that this >might make a nice Wordsler lodge. > I think it's the ugliest house I've seen recently, and there's no way I'd feel a "calling" to move in with you all! Sorry Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 03:05:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAA9546q027323 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 03:05:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5775B1E60120; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 02:59:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2824E1E60114 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 02:59:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3C044@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 3:52:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14314694 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 03:52:48 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAA8qmt21136 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 03:52:48 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:54:40 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id VR1BPT0A; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:54:35 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031110094948.0259bbf8@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:52:39 +0100 Subject: Good movie and eclipsed moon In-Reply-To: <5676fa56b8b5.56b8b55676fa@optonline.net> References: <5676fa56b8b5.56b8b55676fa@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Saturday we went and saw "Intolerable cruelty". A very good and funny movie. Later we stayed up and watch the eclipse of the moon: we could follow it from our living room window from about 0:30 to 2:30 AM. We sipped wine and went and looked with binoculars in between - it was a clear sky and rather exiting. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 04:16:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAAFx6q028001 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 04:15:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B8E881E6011A; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 04:10:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BC931E6010F for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 04:10:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3C093@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 5:03:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14315416 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:03:43 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAA3gt25651 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:03:42 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:05:34 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id VR1BP4NC; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:05:33 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031110110246.027a2030@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:03:37 +0100 Subject: Re: Re the Episcopal Church In-Reply-To: <1925369902.20031108121350@WordWrite.com> References: <200311072206.hA7M6nt29303@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <6.0.0.22.0.20031108184104.024fa1b0@localhost> <1925369902.20031108121350@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 12:13 08.11.2003 -0600 skrev Karen Kay: >On Saturday, November 08, 2003, Espen S. Ore wrote: >> At 23:06 07.11.2003, Karen Kay skrev: >>>On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:59:29 -0800, Lynne Weber >>>wrote: >>> >>> >--- Paul Barfoot wrote: >>> >> and Kephas in Aramaic - they both mean "rock" >>> >> >>> >> BrP >>> > >>> > >>> >Thanks. Does Kephas have any linguistic offspring I >>> >would recognize? >>> >>>cephalic > >> ?? > >Do you think I'm propagating a folk etymology? That may be--I'm not an >Indo-Europeanist. As far as I know 'cephalic' comes from Greek 'Kephalos'=head. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 04:21:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAALa6q028065 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 04:21:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3E12C1E6011A; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 04:16:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C40D1E6010F for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 04:16:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3C0BE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 5:09:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14315540 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:09:19 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAA9Jt25972 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:09:19 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:11:11 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id VR1BP43A; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:11:07 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031110110727.027a31a8@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:09:11 +0100 Subject: Re: Re the Episcopal Church In-Reply-To: <20031108211915.97058.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> References: <6.0.0.22.0.20031108182055.024e7148@localhost> <20031108211915.97058.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 13:19 08.11.2003 -0800 skrev Lynne Weber: >--- "Espen S. Ore" wrote: >> But wasn't he originally called Simon? And then he >> was called Rocky which >> was translated into the language used for writing >> things down - just like >> Messiah turned into Khristos? > >Yes, he was called Simon, and, if memory serves, it >was exactly at this point in the story that he became >Peter. Jesus said that Simon could only have answered >a question with the assistance of the Holy >Ghost. Therefore, from that time forward, Simon would >be known as Petra, the rock on which the church would >be built. The "Rocky" part is new to me. Petros Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 05:07:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAB7k6q028405 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:07:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E632D1E60125; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:02:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7EF91E6010F for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:02:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3C11C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 5:55:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14316351 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:55:29 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAAtSt29186 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:55:29 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:57:21 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id VR1BP4W3; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:57:18 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031110115500.02797220@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:55:22 +0100 Subject: Re: Meldrum Bay In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 16:48 09.11.2003 -0500 skrev Marty Rosen: >I hadn't planned to spend any time doing this, but it's a slow day in the >Library, and we close tomorrow, so here's a quick, no frills, web tour of >the new cottage. > >http://homepages.ius.edu/CROSEN/ Very good! Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 05:51:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAABpB6q028756 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:51:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3BA331E6013D; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:46:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A1321E60121 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:46:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3C18E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 6:38:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14317358 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:38:54 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAABcst32417 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:38:54 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.168.105]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110113849.BANC1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:38:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAF78C8.ADF422FF@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:38:49 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin wrote: > If you're REALLY quiet, it feels good and gives you clean, not > anxiety-driven, energy. As for wasting time, well I think an hour sitting > quietly is better spent than say watching Survivor. But that's a cheap > knock - substitute something else if you can. It's all in what you value, > of course, the judgment 'wasting time.' Obviously people have different opinions on the wasting of time. I thought I had conveyed that in personalizing it -- as in saying *I* want to do this and that and do not want to waste time (as in my time) sitting and doing nothing. I still do TM occasionally, though very, very occasionally -- not the old twenty mintues twice a day that I did for a good while back in the early '70s. I was never sure that it served any purpose, but I didn't want to risk forgetting my mantra by letting too much time go by without doing it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 05:54:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAABsq6q028803 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:54:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 02FA91E60121; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:49:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 898401E60086 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:49:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3C1AA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 6:42:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14317511 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:42:28 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAABgSt00381 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:42:28 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.168.105]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110114223.BBAN1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:42:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAF799E.BA86E7D@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:42:22 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: REALTOR.com Listing #654145 References: <4.2.2.20031109193757.00a9ce80@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > > I can't remember why you were drawn to Belfast. I liked that area you were > first drawn to near. > Richard. Belfast is where I stayed in that motel with the gorgeous view to the gorgeous water. You may be right, however, that Bay St. Louis would be wiser. When I went outside a few minutes ago, I was happy that it felt warmer than it had yesterday morning. I sat on the decklet enjoying that it was warmish and thinking about how unpleasant being cold is. I would remind you of the beauty of Belfast by giving you a picture url, but I just remembered that those are the pictures I put on fotopic, making it much too much trouble to locate a Belfast picture. That's where I sat on a large rock on the beautiful grass and called Adam. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 05:56:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAABua6q028837 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:56:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 13AAB1E6013D; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:51:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9E641E60121 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:51:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3C19F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 6:44:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14317539 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:44:19 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAABiJt00483 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:44:19 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.168.105]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110114414.BBGV1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:44:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAF7A0E.4A205121@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:44:14 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: REALTOR.com Listing #598675 References: <4.2.2.20031109194054.00aa2ed0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > > This is much nicer. You could rent out the rooms. But it's an ugly structure, and it has only two bathrooms. (Why would somebody want eight bedrooms with only two bathrooms??) > You need to do it the > way Marty did. Walk around an area that you would like to spend more > time. Find something. Yes. Is it possible to drive to places like Belfast in winter? Like wouldn't the roads be covered with ice and snow? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 05:57:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAABvK6q028847 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:57:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 039A51E6013D; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:52:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C99651E60121 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:52:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001DA2FA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 6:45:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14317549 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:45:03 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAABj3t00559 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:45:03 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.168.105]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110114458.BBJB1849.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:44:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAF7A39.6F56CC94@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:44:57 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Flying by the Seat of His Pants References: <000801c3a746$924bdb20$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU NEAT!! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 05:59:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAABxf6q028853 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:59:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0DA4E1E6013D; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:54:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D04201E60121 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:54:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3C1B1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 6:47:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14317561 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:47:24 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAABlOt00699 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:47:24 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAABlMoe024699 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:47:22 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FAF7A82.4060308@swbell.net> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:46:10 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cool anniversary present References: <3FAEB02B.4090405@swbell.net> <3FAEB8C7.BD0E060B@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Rita Chapman wrote: > >>For our 9th -- a hand/custom made red oak bookcase. It's >>extremely nice. And just when I was wondering where I was >>going to shelve the latest shipment from Amazon when I'm >>done reading it ;). Ana's books are also getting out of >>control. It's gorgeous, and just the right height to >>display the books from Alyce properly. >> > > Sounds pefect. And Happy Anniversary! > Thank you :). -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 06:11:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAACB06q029007 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:11:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F1BD31E60121; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:05:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE8301E6011D for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:05:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3C1B7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 6:58:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14317666 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:58:43 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAABmht00860 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:48:43 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAABm03W013440 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:48:00 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:48:42 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109213813.00bc3e80@pop.gwi.net> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109202516.00bb6bf8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109213813.00bc3e80@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, bonniev wrote: >does. I don't do that but often think I should. I try to quiet my mind >and focus on nothing during the twelve minutes it takes to do a Tai Chi >set. But I am never successful. In fact, I am appalled at the variety of >thoughts that flit through my mind during those 12 minutes. I think that is universal experience. I have learned to keep a pen and sheet of paper near me. I write down the thoughts that will not go away otherwise. That often quiets them. It's a matter of acknowledging the importance of the thoughts, yet putting them on hold for the moment. Something about the "monkey mind" makes this necesssary, it seems. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 06:13:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAACDW6q029013 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:13:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 383C91E60133; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:08:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 047741E60124 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:08:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3C1BC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 7:01:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14317725 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:01:15 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAABpFt01091 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:51:15 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAABoW3W013760 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:50:32 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:51:14 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <3FAF05A4.7F94120D@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109214203.00bb74f8@pop.gwi.net> <1086602604.20031109205208@WordWrite.com> <3FAEFFF0.CBA5194E@maynor.net> <4710539341.20031109211613@WordWrite.com> <3FAF05A4.7F94120D@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I don't think I'm particularly goal oriented. It's just that I can't >quite imagine sitting and doing nothing. Life is too full of things I >want to do for me to feel any desire to just sit. That's why I asked >what it accomplishes -- as in what's the point -- as in why waste the >time to sit quietly. Some of us think that be-ing is very important - and not a waste of time at all. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 06:17:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAACHM6q029039 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:17:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6C8DE1E60121; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:12:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A66E1E6011D for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:12:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3C1E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 7:05:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14317996 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:05:04 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAC54t21249 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:05:04 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.168.105]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110120459.JHEK1852.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:04:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAF7EEB.74E04E1E@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:04:59 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens References: <20031110030843.70261.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Perhaps a theoretical situation with a given set of > variables would be the easiest place to start. Over > to you, Natalie. I'd almost forgotten that this was my assignment. Ok. Joe and Inez are a Mexican couple in their early thirties. They are finding it impossible to make ends meet at home and to feed their five-year-old daughter, Isabel. So the three of them manage to sneak across the border to the U.S. Sam, owner of a chicken factory, is delighted to hire both Joe and Inez at $1.50 an hour each. Joe becomes a chicken-plucker, and Inez mops chicken guts from the floor of a different area of the plant. They are delighted since their combined income is $3 an hour, high on the hog compared to their earlier desperate situation. They rent a tiny hovel, where Inez stays alone since at the age of five she has acquired a good bit of survival sense. The next fall Inez reaches school age. But her parents aren't citizens, don't pay taxes, are officially non-existent. Can she go to public school? Just as they're trying to figure out what to do about that, Joe keels over one day with an attack of some undetermined kind, possibly one resulting from ingesting a chicken feather. Even though they're doing ok with their $3 an hour, especially since they work very long hours, they haven't enough money for medical care, and of course they have no insurance since they're illegal. What happens? Does Joe lie on the floor and die with the chickens? Sam, being in many ways a moral man, worries about breaking the law by hiring illegal aliens. He thinks about trying to help them become legal. But he realizes that if he pays Joe and Inez and his fifty other illegal employees minimum wage that his business will go under. Then Joe and Inez will no longer have a job. Nor will he or any of his other employees. Since they're now all legal, though, they would presumably have unemployment insurance. So that might make it ok. Or would it? And if all the chicken factories go under, will the U.S. population have to give up chicken, or could it be imported from other countries? Would it matter? That's a very general sketch. More questions could be asked and more details provided. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 06:22:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAACMT6q029080 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:22:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CDE481E60124; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:17:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EF171E60121 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:17:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3C1D6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 7:10:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14318114 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:10:12 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAACABt21593 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:10:11 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAACA8vi029337 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:10:09 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:10:47 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <496280884.20031110061047@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: mcedness In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109202516.00bb6bf8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109213813.00bc3e80@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, November 10, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > I think that is universal experience. I have learned to keep a pen and > sheet of paper near me. I write down the thoughts that will not go away > otherwise. That often quiets them. It's a matter of acknowledging the > importance of the thoughts, yet putting them on hold for the moment. > Something about the "monkey mind" makes this necesssary, it seems. Why put them on hold? Why not just go with them? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 06:54:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAACsf6q029400 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:54:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 54C791E60133; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:49:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23E221E6012D for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:49:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DA36B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 7:42:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14318896 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:42:23 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law9-oe13.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.117]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAACgNt24671 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:42:23 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 04:42:17 -0800 Received: from 199.174.0.128 by law9-oe13.law9.hotmail.com with DAV; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 12:42:17 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [199.174.0.128] X-Originating-Email: [amyb_short@hotmail.com] From: "Amy Burns Short" To: Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:42:40 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2003 12:42:17.0799 (UTC) FILETIME=[13514570:01C3A788] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >But her parents aren't citizens, don't pay taxes, are >officially non-existent. Can she go to public school? But of course she can. This part is a non-issue. See Plyler v. Doe (1982), U.S. Supreme Court. AS From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 07:09:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAD956q029603 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:09:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 34F031E6013D; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:03:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 053B31E60133 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:03:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DA3AC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 7:56:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14319518 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:56:47 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAACult26025 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:56:47 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hAACuhsg018956 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:56:46 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:57:22 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <277846384.20031110065722@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Illegal Aliens In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, November 10, 2003, Amy Burns Short wrote: >>But her parents aren't citizens, don't pay taxes, are >officially > non-existent. Can she go to public school? > But of course she can. This part is a non-issue. > See Plyler v. Doe (1982), U.S. Supreme Court. Um, Supreme Court rulings have been known to be changed. My understanding is that in some school districts where there are more illegal aliens than citizens, there are rumblings about wanting to change this. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 07:17:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAADHV6q029660 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:17:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 088B71E6013D; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:12:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA7801E60133 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:12:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3C2AD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 8:05:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14320093 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:05:13 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAAD5Dt27265 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:05:13 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:05:13 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:04:42 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Signing with infants Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hAADHV6q029660 I think it's a great idea. I know quite a few parents who are doing this with their kids. My grandson is learning some signs - please, thank you, more. I haven't read any studies on it, but the theory is that kids develop the concept of language and enough hand coordination before they develop the muscle control for speech. BrP >>> aborkin@RAHUL.NET 11/09/03 06:31PM >>> Have you heard about this? Allan's son and daughter in law are signing with their baby. I'm not sure the kid has the idea down exactly right, yet - he signs 'moon' at everybody because signing 'moon' at the sky or at a light thrills his parents enormously. http://www.timetosign.com/benefitsofourprogram.html Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 07:23:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAADNd6q029738 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:23:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 186E01E60140; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:18:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE6DE1E60133 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:18:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001DA40E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 8:11:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14320337 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:11:21 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law9-oe59.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAADBLt27932 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:11:21 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:11:15 -0800 Received: from 199.174.0.128 by law9-oe59.law9.hotmail.com with DAV; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:11:14 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [199.174.0.128] X-Originating-Email: [amyb_short@hotmail.com] From: "Amy Burns Short" To: Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:11:38 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2003 13:11:15.0583 (UTC) FILETIME=[1F1E10F0:01C3A78C] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>But her parents aren't citizens, don't pay taxes, are >officially > non-existent. Can she go to public school? > But of course she can. This part is a non-issue. > See Plyler v. Doe (1982), U.S. Supreme Court. >Um, Supreme Court rulings have been known to be changed. Um, it hasn't been changed yet. And neither has the 14th Amendment been changed. Some illumination for your reading pleasure: http://www.aclumontana.org/rights/plyler.html My >understanding is that in some school districts where there are more >illegal aliens than citizens, there are rumblings about wanting to >change this. Yes -- this was certainly the case in some parts of North Carolina when I lived there five years ago, and it is true now in Kentucky. Districts are a little slow on the uptake that the mentality of "if we ignore them, maybe they will go away" is clearly not working nor going to work. However, "rumblings" do not equate rights under current federal mandates. AS AS From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 07:33:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAADXa6q029922 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:33:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9CF2A1E60133; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:28:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B19C1E60127 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:28:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3C32E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 8:21:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14320986 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:21:19 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAADLIt29314 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:21:18 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAADLF2K001443 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:21:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:21:53 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <6610399404.20031110072153@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Illegal Aliens In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, November 10, 2003, Amy Burns Short wrote: > However, "rumblings" do not equate rights under current federal mandates. Did I say that they did? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 07:40:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAADe16q029952 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:40:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4B5E91E60133; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:34:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E4891E60127 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:34:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DA446@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 8:27:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14321250 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:27:43 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law9-oe54.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.47]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAADRht30013 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:27:43 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:27:37 -0800 Received: from 199.174.0.128 by law9-oe54.law9.hotmail.com with DAV; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:27:37 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [199.174.0.128] X-Originating-Email: [amyb_short@hotmail.com] From: "Amy Burns Short" To: Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:28:01 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2003 13:27:37.0965 (UTC) FILETIME=[68A9A9D0:01C3A78E] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, November 10, 2003, Amy Burns Short wrote: > However, "rumblings" do not equate rights under current federal mandates. >Did I say that they did? >Karen Don't you remember? :). AS From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 08:00:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAE0v6q030131 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:00:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 975781E60133; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:55:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 644901E6012B for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:55:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001DA4F3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 8:48:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14322611 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:48:40 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAADmdt01173 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:48:39 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-49.gwi.net [216.195.151.49]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAADmaGp042185; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:48:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031110083014.00b199b0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:41:15 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: REALTOR.com Listing #598675 In-Reply-To: <3FAF7A0E.4A205121@maynor.net> References: <4.2.2.20031109194054.00aa2ed0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:44 AM 11/10/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Yes. Is it possible to drive to places like Belfast in winter? Like >wouldn't the roads be covered with ice and snow? As I've noted before, Maine pursues snow removal with an almost-religious zeal. You can be assured that Belfast, being at a major highway intersection, is reachable. In our seven winters here, there have never been more than just a few hours (and that usually in the midst of a storm) that one would think twice about venturing out onto the roads. Depending on the amount of driving, e.g., if you were commuting, you might want to invest in studded tires. It seems that, in our area, people who drive frequently from here to Bangor have them because of the Lucerne hills which can be tricky during a snowfall. Most people simply drive on all-weather tires. We already are seeing pickup trucks with their snowplow blades attached. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 08:06:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAE606q030198 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:06:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DEF9C1E60133; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:00:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC3EF1E6012B for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:00:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3C3E9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 8:53:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14322925 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:53:42 -0500 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAADrft02024 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:53:41 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.166.280e3781 (24895) for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:53:29 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <166.280e3781.2ce0f259@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:53:29 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] REALTOR.com Listing #598675 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/10/2003 7:49:31 AM Central Standard Time, cwv@GWI.NET writes: << As I've noted before, Maine pursues snow removal with an almost-religious zeal. >> I wish someone from Maine would come to Tulsa and instruct the city on how to properly remove snow from the streets. The city acts as if snow is something completely alien. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Two days until Bennie arrives! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 08:50:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAEoh6q030577 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:50:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C07241E6013D; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:45:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F9BD1E60135 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:45:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3C546@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 9:38:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14326418 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:38:25 -0500 Received: from mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAEcOt10471 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:38:24 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HO5001864NZEE@mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:38:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.135] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:34:31 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:34:31 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: McJob To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <5c491f5bdf63.5bdf635c491f@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I can see why McDonald's is upset. > > What are they upset about? Surely not about McJob--that's been around > for a long time (witness its presence in the dictionary). When was Douglas Coupland's "Generation X" published, 1991? Did he coin it or was it around before that? Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 08:59:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAEx16q030690 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:59:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 55EA31E60146; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:53:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A1C21E60144 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:53:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3C590@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 9:46:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14327232 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:46:43 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAEkht12038 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:46:43 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DA674@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 9:46:42 -0500 Message-Id: <200311101446.hAAEkht12038@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:46:43 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: McJob To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:34:31 -0500, Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote: >> > I can see why McDonald's is upset. >> >> What are they upset about? Surely not about McJob--that's been around >> for a long time (witness its presence in the dictionary). > >When was Douglas Coupland's "Generation X" published, 1991? Did he coin it or was it around before that? I think it's an 80's word--late 80's. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 09:02:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAF246q030716 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:02:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DF0601E60144; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:56:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAE9F1E60135 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:56:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DA69C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 9:49:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14327751 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:49:45 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAEnjt13160 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:49:45 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3C5DF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 9:49:45 -0500 Message-Id: <200311101449.hAAEnjt13160@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:49:45 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: why I read the Canadian news To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id hAAEnjt13162 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >>From: Paul Barfoot >>Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >>To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>Subject: why I read the Canadian news >>Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:36:38 -0500 >> >>An article in The Star this morning says: >> >>WASHINGTON—A call from the U.S. Defence Department for volunteers to sit on >>local draft boards has sparked debate here about whether a nationwide >>military draft could ultimately be needed to complete Washington's Iraq >>mission. >>>> meeberphobia@HOTMAIL.COM 11/05/03 01:20PM >>> >>I think we should all sign up to serve on these boards (well, all except jmw >>and Alan). > On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:38:37 -0500, Paul Barfoot wrote: >I was thinking the same thing. I think there should be lots and lots of applications - including pets, including the long deceased, etc., etc. > >BrP > I was also considering it - but you of course would be uniquely qualified! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 09:10:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAFAI6q030798 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:10:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D48C81E6014B; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:05:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A73EE1E60146 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:05:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3C620@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 9:58:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14328669 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:58:00 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f43.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.43]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAEw0t15575 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:58:00 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:57:54 -0800 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:57:54 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Meldrum Bay Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:57:54 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2003 14:57:54.0474 (UTC) FILETIME=[052758A0:01C3A79B] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: "clyde w. voigtlander" >(I'd stillopt for a propane kitchen stove, however.) I agree with this, but first things first. We need a wood stove to heat the cottage itself (electricity in Ontario is extremely cheap, capped at 3.2 cents per kilowatt hour, but Meldrum Bay is at the end of the grid, and outages are inevitable). Then we can replace the electric stove with propane. _________________________________________________________________ Compare high-speed Internet plans, starting at $26.95. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 09:15:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAFF66q030833 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:15:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2FFCA1E60146; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:09:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 025481E60135 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:09:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3C655@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:02:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14329039 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:02:41 -0500 Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAF2ft16420 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:02:41 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HO5007A35SBA7@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:02:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.135] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:58:36 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:58:36 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: McJob To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <5c30865c150d.5c150d5c3086@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: Karen Kay > >When was Douglas Coupland's "Generation X" published, 1991? Did > he coin it > or was it around before that? > > I think it's an 80's word--late 80's. Really. So you're thinking it's not attributable to Coupland? Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 09:15:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAFFt6q030838 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:15:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 35E5E1E60146; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:10:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07E871E60135 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:10:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3C66B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:03:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14329147 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:03:37 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f19.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.19]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAF3bt16561 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:03:37 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:03:31 -0800 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:03:31 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Meldrum Bay Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:03:31 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2003 15:03:31.0757 (UTC) FILETIME=[CE30A5D0:01C3A79B] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Theo Groothof >Lovely little place; but I wouldn't be too quick replacing the stove. We >had >a coal stove when I was growing up, and they don't provide too much heat, >and >I suppose a woodstove would give off even less. The electric stove is pretty much a cooking stove only; I wouldn't count on it for heating space. We do have a couple of space heaters. But it seems that wood stove technology has improved immensely in the last decade or so. Given that we're only talking about a thousand square feet, it seems likely a wood stove will work pretty well, and be a cheap source of energy in an area where wood is cheap. _________________________________________________________________ Concerned that messages may bounce because your Hotmail account is over limit? Get Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 09:18:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAFIx6q030860 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:18:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 10B4C1E60149; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:13:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6B121E60146 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:13:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3C66C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:06:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14329427 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:06:41 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAF6ft17118 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:06:41 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DA741@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:06:41 -0500 Message-Id: <200311101506.hAAF6ft17118@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:06:41 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: why I read the Canadian news To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:57:09 -0500, Paul Barfoot wrote: >Pete > > Check blogdex > >http://blogdex.net/track.asp?id=7397668 > > >Paul > > > > >>>> kaminski@ISTORI.COM 11/05/03 02:19PM >>> >Thanks, BrPaul. Blogged with an attribution to you: >. > >Pete The link to local boards and application is still active, however: clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 09:26:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAFQ26q030925 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:26:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EC1C71E6014B; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:20:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCB1A1E60149 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:20:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3C703@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:13:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14330484 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:13:44 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAFDit18925 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:13:44 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DA7D4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:13:43 -0500 Message-Id: <200311101513.hAAFDit18925@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:13:44 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: octopuses get erections To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:30:11 -0500, bonniev wrote: >> >of Poverty, Chastity, and Obedience. Which do you think would be harder >> >for you Bethany, the poverty or the obedience????????? >> >>Good question. I practice a bit of both. I think that they probably need >>to be practiced together. > >You practice poverty? You appear to me to be the wealthiest wordsler and >the most attached to your belongings. > >>Which was harder for you? >>Bethany > >Obedience was harder. I didn't really know poverty those eight years when >I was in the convent. Food, shelter, and clothing was provided for me. I >knew poverty once I left the convent and had to earn a living. Even then, >I was never what I would consider truly poor. > > >bonnie FWIW, I agree with you - obedience is by far the hardest vow. Not that I have been "a religious", but as an interpreter I had to put the tone of voice of a speaker on my face, while repeating the words as if I believed them; and many many times they were in direct opposition to my own beliefs and values (particularly in a pentacostal school during the Gulf War, with John Bircher teachers). Adherence to the code of ethics under those circumstances was an extreme test of the obedience kind. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 09:27:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAFRa6q030951 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:27:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9F20C1E60149; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:22:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 373A81E60146 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:22:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3C6F7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:15:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14330624 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:15:17 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f81.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.81]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAFFHt19267 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:15:17 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:15:11 -0800 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:15:11 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: REALTOR.com Listing #654145 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:15:11 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2003 15:15:11.0537 (UTC) FILETIME=[6F4A9A10:01C3A79D] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU If you like town living, check this out (and do the currency conversion). You could easily start a words-l lodge here: http://manitoulinrealestate.ca/detail.cfm?LI_ID=482 >From: Natalie >Take a look at this property I found on REALTOR.com: >http://www.realtor.com/Prop/1031128490 _________________________________________________________________ Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $26.95. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 09:42:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAFg16q031043 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:42:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3422B1E60149; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:36:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 067CC1E60146 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:36:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3C7C4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:29:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14332219 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:29:42 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAFTgt22309 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:29:42 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001DA891@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:29:42 -0500 Message-Id: <200311101529.hAAFTgt22309@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:29:42 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: winter, whiskey, and canned goods To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:37:49 -0500, Marty Rosen wrote: >On Monday we close on our draft evader's cottage in Meldrum Bay. Later in >the month we'll be up there to do a little work, take inventory, measure >some rooms, install ceiling fans, drop off some supplies, build a wood shed, >and so forth. > >I have a question about storing canned goods. Can we safely leave cans of >green beans and the like in an unheated cottage through the frozen depths of >winter? Or is doing so a recipe for explosions and and a messy spring >clean-up? Clearly we can't leave beer or wine, but what about whiskey? > Lengthy experience with winter camp stores assures me that certain things will overwinter, but the quality of the food will suffer. Green beans, tuna, and tomato soup all fare relatively well. Don't attempt to leave mayo to go with the tuna, however. As for liquids in glass or plastic, you can leave any that have adequate room in the container for ice expansion. So drink half the bottle of wine, the whiskey, the beer, and then get your designated driver to take you home to sober up. The worst is cola. Sticky on top of everything else! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 09:43:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAFha6q031059 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:43:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 02E5D1E6014B; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:38:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C91571E60149 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:38:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3C7CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:31:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14332383 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:31:18 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAFVIt22649 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:31:18 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DA884@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:31:17 -0500 Message-Id: <200311101531.hAAFVIt22649@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:31:17 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: McJob To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:58:36 -0500, Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: Karen Kay >> >When was Douglas Coupland's "Generation X" published, 1991? Did >> he coin it >> or was it around before that? >> >> I think it's an 80's word--late 80's. > >Really. So you're thinking it's not attributable to Coupland? I think very few words are directly attributable to a single author. But ask Amy--she'll tell you what the Supreme Court ruling on that is. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 09:47:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAFlL6q031109 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:47:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 630B51E6014C; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:42:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EDFF1E6014B for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:42:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001DA8BC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:35:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14331837 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:35:02 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAFP2t21544 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:25:02 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAAFOH3W004195 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:24:19 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:24:59 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <496280884.20031110061047@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109202516.00bb6bf8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109213813.00bc3e80@pop.gwi.net> <496280884.20031110061047@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >> I think that is universal experience. I have learned to keep a pen and >> sheet of paper near me. I write down the thoughts that will not go away >> otherwise. That often quiets them. It's a matter of acknowledging the >> importance of the thoughts, yet putting them on hold for the moment. >> Something about the "monkey mind" makes this necesssary, it seems. > >Why put them on hold? Why not just go with them? Because at that time I am engaged with something else. They must wait their turn. I cannot simultaneously have an empty mind and also attend to items that need attention when it is their turn. Priorities. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 09:48:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAFmf6q031114 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:48:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D95151E6014C; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:43:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8CF31E60146 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:43:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3C800@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:36:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14332901 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:36:22 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAFaLt23717 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:36:21 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-49.gwi.net [216.195.151.49]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAAFaIGp061339; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:36:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031110103214.00b3f758@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:32:49 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Meldrum Bay In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:57 AM 11/10/2003 -0500, Marty Rosen wrote: >>From: "clyde w. voigtlander" >>(I'd stillopt for a propane kitchen stove, however.) > >I agree with this, but first things first. We need a wood stove to heat the >cottage itself (electricity in Ontario is extremely cheap, capped at 3.2 >cents per kilowatt hour, but Meldrum Bay is at the end of the grid, and >outages are inevitable). Then we can replace the electric stove with >propane. Good strategy. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 09:49:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAFnC6q031120 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:49:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F158C1E6014B; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:44:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1AE71E60146 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:44:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DA8B6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:36:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14331955 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:36:54 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAFQst21777 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:26:54 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAAFQA3W004732 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:26:11 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:26:53 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens In-Reply-To: <277846384.20031110065722@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <277846384.20031110065722@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >Um, Supreme Court rulings have been known to be changed. My >understanding is that in some school districts where there are more >illegal aliens than citizens, there are rumblings about wanting to >change this. But it often takes 100 years or so. See Brown v. Board of Education. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 09:50:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAFoj6q031132 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:50:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 105941E60152; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:45:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D418F1E6014C for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:45:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3C82A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:38:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14333195 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:38:26 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f79.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.79]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAFcQt24437 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:38:26 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:38:20 -0800 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:38:19 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Meldrum Bay Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:38:19 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2003 15:38:20.0411 (UTC) FILETIME=[AB1FF4B0:01C3A7A0] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor >It does indeed seem like the perfect situation. Is buying property in a >foreign country more complicated than in one's own country? Not in Ontario, at least. There was once a 20% tax on foreign purchases in Ontario. It was repealed some time ago. Quebec has some restrictions on foreign purchases of real estate, but in some parts of Canada there's been substantial investment in real estate by foreigners, from the U.S. and Europe. We used an attorney on Manitoulin Island, and because of the distance, we ended up buying insurance from a Manitoulin broker rather than adding a rider to our homeowner's policy. The other thing to watch for is the exchange rate. The exchange rate typically quoted is the bank rate, which applies to transactions of a million dollars or more. On smaller transactions the rate will be somewhat worse (though not as bad as the rate when you change small amounts of currency, say as a tourist). The other thing to be aware of is fluctuations in the exchange rate during the purchase period. You settle on a price in Canadian dollars, but on a transaction involving tens of thousands of dollars, a shift of one percent can run into hundreds of dollars if it runs against the US dollar. We transferred money early on in order to lock in a rate. _________________________________________________________________ Crave some Miles Davis or Grateful Dead? Your old favorites are always playing on MSN Radio Plus. Trial month free! http://join.msn.com/?page=offers/premiumradio From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 09:51:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAFpp6q031140 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:51:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 541841E6014C; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:46:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 209451E6014B for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:46:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3C82C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:39:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14333236 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:39:32 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAFdWt24601 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:39:32 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001DA8E2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:39:32 -0500 Message-Id: <200311101539.hAAFdWt24601@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:39:32 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: mcedness To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:24:59 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: > >>> I think that is universal experience. I have learned to keep a pen and >>> sheet of paper near me. I write down the thoughts that will not go away >>> otherwise. That often quiets them. It's a matter of acknowledging the >>> importance of the thoughts, yet putting them on hold for the moment. >>> Something about the "monkey mind" makes this necesssary, it seems. >> >>Why put them on hold? Why not just go with them? > >Because at that time I am engaged with something else. They must wait >their turn. I cannot simultaneously have an empty mind and also attend to >items that need attention when it is their turn. Priorities. I guess *I* don't see the point of an empty mind. That, to me, is a waste of time. Sitting in silence doesn't mean having an empty mind. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 09:54:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAFsQ6q031163 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:54:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 641A81E6014B; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:49:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 354B61E60146 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:49:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3C826@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:42:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14333438 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:42:07 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f51.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.51]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAFg7t25161 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:42:07 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:41:58 -0800 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:41:58 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Flying by the Seat of His Pants Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:41:58 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2003 15:41:58.0807 (UTC) FILETIME=[2D4C8A70:01C3A7A1] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Well, this is bright news. >From: Doris Markland >>Just had a call from the lite kernel. >He's home. Left there yesterday when _________________________________________________________________ Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $26.95. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 09:55:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAFt86q031169 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:55:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D3D831E6014B; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:49:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F9DD1E60146 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:49:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001DA8FE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:42:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14333488 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:42:50 -0500 Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.74]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAFgnt25311 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:42:50 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HO5004RC7NDF5@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:42:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.135] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:38:53 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:38:53 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: McJob To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <5ca91a5c57b4.5c57b45ca91a@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-language: en Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id hAAFgot25312 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >> >When was Douglas Coupland's "Generation X" published, 1991? Did > >> he coin it > >> or was it around before that? > >> > >> I think it's an 80's word--late 80's. > > > >Really. So you're thinking it's not attributable to Coupland? > > I think very few words are directly attributable to a single author. > > But ask Amy--she'll tell you what the Supreme Court ruling on that is. > > Karen Oh, well, anyway, it's in the OED (and the AHD too), but this is the OED entry: McJob An unstimulating, low-paid job with few prospects, esp. one created by the expansion of the service sector. 1986 Washington Post (Nexis) 24 Aug. C1 (heading) The fast-food factories: McJobs are bad for kids. 1991 D. COUPLAND Generation X I. i. 5 Dag..was bored and cranky after eight hours of working his McJob (‘Low pay, low prestige, low benefits, low future’). 1993 Albuquerque (New Mexico) Jrnl. 4 Apr. C3/2 So many bright and ambitious young people are wasting what should be their apprentice years in low-wage, low-skilled jobs, what are called ‘McJobs’. 1995 Face Jan. 91/2 Up to the beginning of this year he was painting houses for a living. Name a McJob and Beck has probably done it. The Discouraging Word http://www.thediscouragingword.com/ has an article about this up as well, with some other bits of etymology. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 09:59:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAFxj6q031196 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:59:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AE4AD1E6014C; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:54:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CD261E6014B for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:54:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3C842@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:47:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14333745 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:47:26 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAFlQt26205 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:47:26 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001DA911@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:47:26 -0500 Message-Id: <200311101547.hAAFlQt26205@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:47:26 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: McJob To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:38:53 -0500, Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote: >Oh, well, anyway, it's in the OED (and the AHD too), but this is the OED entry: > >McJob > >An unstimulating, low-paid job with few prospects, esp. one created by the expansion of the service sector. Ah, these are the jobs expanding under the current recovery. > 1986 Washington Post (Nexis) 24 Aug. Late 80's! Tolja! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 10:02:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAG2Q6q031225 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:02:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3C874@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:49:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14334067 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:49:45 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAFnit26891 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:49:44 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-49.gwi.net [216.195.151.49]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAAFncGp063416; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:49:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031110103313.00b56a10@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:36:46 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Meldrum Bay In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:03 AM 11/10/2003 -0500, Marty Rosen wrote: >The electric stove is pretty much a cooking stove only; I wouldn't count on >it for heating space. We do have a couple of space heaters. But it seems >that wood stove technology has improved immensely in the last decade or so. It definitely has, as has the diversity of sizes/capacities/etc. >Given that we're only talking about a thousand square feet, it seems likely >a wood stove will work pretty well, and be a cheap source of energy in an >area where wood is cheap. That is a key. Around here, firewood has increased in price as the demand has gone up, owing to the rather steep rise in oil prices. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 10:07:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAG7f6q031250 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:07:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E996C1E6014C; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:02:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA5F11E6014B for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:02:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3C8A8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:55:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14333651 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:55:22 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAFjMt25833 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:45:22 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAAFib3W012841 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:44:39 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:45:20 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <200311101539.hAAFdWt24601@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: References: <200311101539.hAAFdWt24601@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >I guess *I* don't see the point of an empty mind. That, to me, is a waste >of time. Sitting in silence doesn't mean having an empty mind. It is amazing what will enter that mind if one occasionally keeps the junk/busy work out - and directs daily stuff/work etc. to wait its turn. You are sounding like Natalie who wants to always be DOING something. If fact, sitting with a near-empty mind IS doing something - very different from our usual DOING. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 10:13:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAGDV6q031280 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:13:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2D4AA1E60152; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:08:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EED6B1E6014C for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:08:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001DA9AB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:01:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14334196 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:01:05 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAFp4t27147 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:51:04 -0500 Received: from ra.msstate.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.12.10/8.12.8/ra_1.2) with ESMTP; id hAAFp1aK026800 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:51:01 -0600 (CST) Received: (from maynor@localhost) by ra.msstate.edu (8.12.10/8.12.7/Submit) id hAAFp1gd026799 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:51:01 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:51:01 -0600 (CST) From: Natalie Maynor Message-Id: <200311101551.hAAFp1gd026799@ra.msstate.edu> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Loving My Bostons Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Birkenstocks rule. The look-alikes by other companies, even if they're just as expensive, just don't feel the same. My Haflingers are going to the Salvation Army. But now I must go to class. My happy feet will make it a happy class. --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 10:15:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAGFE6q031298 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:15:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B862B1E6014C; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:10:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89C7F1E6014B for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:10:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3C90A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:02:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14335340 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:02:56 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAG2ut29320 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:02:56 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001DA9BA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:02:55 -0500 Message-Id: <200311101602.hAAG2ut29320@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:02:55 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: mcedness To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:45:20 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >>I guess *I* don't see the point of an empty mind. That, to me, is a waste >>of time. Sitting in silence doesn't mean having an empty mind. > >It is amazing what will enter that mind if one occasionally keeps the >junk/busy work out - and directs daily stuff/work etc. to wait its turn. > >You are sounding like Natalie who wants to always be DOING something. If >fact, sitting with a near-empty mind IS doing something - very different >from our usual DOING. Which is why I go to Quaker meeting instead of Zen sits. (Though I often wouldn't mind if meeting were longer than an hour.) I find that if I just let my mind BE, it will go where it needs to. Sometimes you just really need to sit with your daily stuff/work etc. for a while. I personally do better if I sit with it rather than 'trying to empty my mind'. YMMV. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 11:09:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAH9a6q031827 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:09:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DAA39@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:19:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14335999 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:19:01 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAG90V30792 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:09:00 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAAG8G3W022939 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:08:17 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:08:58 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <200311101602.hAAG2ut29320@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: References: <200311101602.hAAG2ut29320@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >wouldn't mind if meeting were longer than an hour.) I find that if I just >let my mind BE, it will go where it needs to. Sometimes you just really >need to sit with your daily stuff/work etc. for a while. I personally do >better if I sit with it rather than 'trying to empty my mind'. YMMV. Why not try both? (Do better at what?) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 11:15:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAHFB6q031887 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:15:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DABDE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 12:02:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14341477 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 12:02:19 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAH2JV10283 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 12:02:19 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003111017021201300js7dje>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:02:12 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031110085918.0273ca90@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:01:40 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: why I read the Canadian news In-Reply-To: <200311101506.hAAF6ft17118@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander writes, >The link to local boards and application is still active, however: I added to my blog post a link to a cached copy of the page that went away, too. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 12:41:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAIf06q032666 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 12:41:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001DAF01@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:28:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14349410 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:28:18 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAISIg28720 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:28:18 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001DAF00@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:28:17 -0500 Message-Id: <200311101828.hAAISIg28720@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:28:17 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: winter, whiskey, and canned goods To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:19:33 -0500, Marty Rosen wrote: >Clyde, on the other hand, suggests otherwise. Do you think there may be a >difference in the way the cans are constructed? > >>From: Espen Ore >>I have never seen any problems with cans in below-freezing-places. The >>whiskey should survive down to below 20 C (whatever that is in F) - there >>is this tradition of freezing vodkabottles inside ice blocks at least in >>home freezers and they should be at arouind that temperature and have the >>same alcohol strength. >> >>Espen > Possibly can construction, which does vary (Campbell's cans are pretty reliable), but also the relative water content (since water swells). So tinned meats, corned beef hash, etc. will swell less than wet soups. Creamy things come out oddly clumped and watery. Another hint - keep flour, dried milk (preferable over canned), sugar, cocoa, etc. and even peanut butter in glass jars or tight tins, not in plastic, which mice can and will chew through. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 13:04:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAJ4B6q000454 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:04:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3C9F2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:22:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14337415 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:22:36 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAGMaV01275 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:22:36 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DAA61@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:22:36 -0500 Message-Id: <200311101622.hAAGMaV01275@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:22:36 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: headphones To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:12:44 -0600, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 10:40:45AM -0800, Peter Kaminski wrote: >> Ann Borkin writes, >> >> >At least the ones I've tried. Maybe I'm afraid to jam them in far enough >> >- they keep falling out when I crane my neck. >> >> Maybe. I put them in by pulling the top of my ear up (usually by reaching >> around the back of my head with my other arm), and then wiggling them in a >> bit. > >Thank you for that inspiring use of the word "usually". After trying >for about five minutes I think I have almost perfected the maneuver >to put an earplug in with one hand. This will prove hugely valuable >on the train, with a book and/or cofee cup in hand. The years I have >spent thinking I needed two hands for this! > >Any ideas about how to pull a cap on with one hand, given a bald head? If a knit cap, grab one edge with teeth, stretch across back of head toward back, widen fingers at other side to pull forward across crown, then adjust after opening mouth. (Holding babies while doing all kinds of things teaches these lessons). clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 13:04:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAJ4B6r000454 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:04:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3C9EF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:24:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14337510 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:24:08 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAGO7V01493 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:24:07 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001DAA87@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:24:07 -0500 Message-Id: <200311101624.hAAGO7V01493@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:24:07 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: mcedness To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:08:58 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: > >>wouldn't mind if meeting were longer than an hour.) I find that if I just >>let my mind BE, it will go where it needs to. Sometimes you just really >>need to sit with your daily stuff/work etc. for a while. I personally do >>better if I sit with it rather than 'trying to empty my mind'. YMMV. > >Why not try both? (Do better at what?) Do better at having a 'successful' sit. I refuse to force myself to do something I don't believe you can do anyway. I have a lot more to say on this topic, but it will have to wait till later. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 13:04:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAJ4B6s000454 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:04:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3CA7B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:35:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14338649 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:35:11 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAGZBV04097 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:35:11 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DAAD4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:35:11 -0500 Message-Id: <200311101635.hAAGZBV04097@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:35:11 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Prime Meeber! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:43:12 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Wednesday, November 05, 2003, Amy Burns Short wrote: >> Happiest of Birthdays, John!!!!! > >From me, too. > >Karen, >Just another one of Rumsfeld's soft targets... and from me belatedly clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 13:04:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAJ4E6q000459 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:04:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3CB87@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:57:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14341120 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:57:52 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAGvqV09510 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:57:52 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001DABD5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:57:51 -0500 Message-Id: <200311101657.hAAGvqV09510@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:57:52 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: octopuses get erections To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:15:50 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Karen Kay wrote: >> >> On Wednesday, November 05, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> > Money is of course a top consideration of somebody who is >> > poverty-stricken (or unemployed). >> >> Exactly--but not wealthy people. > >Actually, I think that the people most likely to be obsessed with money >are the very rich and the very poor. The poor (including unemployed) >have to be because it's a matter of survival. The very rich (not >necessarily all of them but I would guess many of them) because that's >what they're into -- it's their . Bethany does not fit into >either of those categories, afaik. So she would be the anamolous though >certainly not unique case of somebody between those two extremes but >still fascinated by or obsessed with money. > >> > Iow, she is not in a situation of >> > having to think constantly about money and where her next meal is coming >> > from. I know any number of people who are working class or middle class who have come to believe that income is related to moral fiber, intelligence, goodness, etc. or who are obsessed because they fear to lose the safety they believe money brings. Some get up at night worrying about the future, in case they should lose their job etc. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 13:04:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAJ4B6t000454 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:04:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3CC38@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 12:18:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14343078 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 12:18:20 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAHIKg14818 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 12:18:20 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DAC6C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 12:18:19 -0500 Message-Id: <200311101718.hAAHIKg14818@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 12:18:19 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: octopuses get erections To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 08:50:03 -0500, Paul Barfoot wrote: >I do understand the voluntary poverty idea, though I intensely dislike >calling it that. A simple life, free of the pressure to acquire and > consume is the best fit for me. Call it an ethical decision or call it a > lifestyle choice - it is what works for me. The words "poverty" > and "poor" have the context of not-by-choice to me and the term "voluntary > poverty" seems condescending. This is my opinion and it doesn't matter to > me if others have different opinions or make other choices. > >BrP > > > >>>> dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU 11/06/03 07:30AM >>> >On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, bonniev wrote: > >>> > Voluntary poverty practiced for its own sake - not in obedience to what >>> > one perceives to be a calling or ministry - doesn't make any sense to me. >> >>It does to me. I think detachment from hankering of all kinds is a goal in >>and of itself, carrying its own reward of peace in one's soul. I aspire to it. > >Ah - I do not equate poverty with the kind of detachment you describe. If >I am too poor to afford medical treatment I am unlikley to be detached >from pain. > >B. I think there's a difference between voluntary simplicity and voluntary poverty. The former, I think, implies choosing a pleasant life for its advantages. The latter, on the other hand, entails stepping out of the nested resources of the not-poor, and taking the life that is meted out to the unprotected. I think of Kagawa, not Wendell Berry, when I talk about voluntary poverty. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 13:04:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAJ4E6r000459 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:04:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3CC46@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 12:19:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14343188 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 12:19:04 -0500 Received: from flex.com (flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAHJ3g15050 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 12:19:04 -0500 Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAAHIqvd091611 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:19:02 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from mem@flex.com) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:19:12 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: McJob Reply-to: mem@flex.com Message-ID: <3FAF3BF0.15319.16BED3@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <5c491f5bdf63.5bdf635c491f@optonline.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-Flex-Prefilter-Spam-Score: 0 () X-Flex-Loose-Spamcheck: NO X-Flex-Scan: Flexnet Mimedefang/Clamd Virii Checker - PASSED - No Virus Found Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 10 Nov 2003 at 9:34, Marie Ascher wrote: > When was Douglas Coupland's "Generation X" published, 1991? Did he > coin it or was it around before that? MWCD11 dates the word from 1989 but doesn't give any attribution or origin. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 13:04:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAJ4E6s000459 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:04:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3CFB4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:50:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14351428 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:50:09 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAIo8g32738 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:50:08 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAAIo6W1028055 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:50:06 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAAIo3Wq028020; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:50:05 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031110104558.00a55190@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:46:30 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Flying by the Seat of His Pants In-Reply-To: <000801c3a746$924bdb20$e1cadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:53 PM 11/9/2003 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: >Just had a call from the lite kernel. >He's home. Left there yesterday when >he had a chance to ride to Germany on a >MediVac plane. No planes going out from >there, so he grabbed a cab for a one hour >ride to another base, where a plane was >just loading and he made it. Landed in >So. Carolina, rented a car and drove home, >completely surprising his family at 8:00 a.m. >30 hour trip in all, still in his flight suit from >working Friday. > >He's been gone this time over 4 months. >His little girl turned 2 this week and he has >been with her only a few months out of her life. >Hope he's home long enough to get acquainted. > > - D. M. Wonderful! I hope he gets lots of much deserved time off. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 13:04:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAJ4B6u000454 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:04:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3CF7C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:44:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14350888 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:44:52 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAIipg31736 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:44:51 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:44:45 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77737@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: winter, whiskey, and canned goods Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:44:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Marty Rosen [mailto:meeberphobia@HOTMAIL.COM] >Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 1:38 PM >Excellent advice. Thank you. > >>From: Carolyn Ostrander >>Another hint - keep flour, dried milk (preferable over canned), sugar, >>cocoa, etc. and even peanut butter in glass jars or tight tins, not in >>plastic, which mice can and will chew through. I've found using metal trash cans (sans using them for their original purpose) works well. Then you don't have to worry about any repackaging, etc. One would also hope one of the hibernating animals doesn't wake up... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 13:08:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAJ8n6q000543 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:08:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3CFFE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:56:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14351882 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:56:06 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAIu5g01235 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:56:06 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAAIu4eO005969 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:56:04 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAAIu3a2005941; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:56:04 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031110105147.00a5f8d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:52:29 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <3FAF78C8.ADF422FF@maynor.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:38 AM 11/10/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Ann Borkin wrote: > > If you're REALLY quiet, it feels good and gives you clean, not > > anxiety-driven, energy. As for wasting time, well I think an hour sitting > > quietly is better spent than say watching Survivor. But that's a cheap > > knock - substitute something else if you can. It's all in what you value, > > of course, the judgment 'wasting time.' > >Obviously people have different opinions on the wasting of time. I >thought I had conveyed that in personalizing it -- as in saying *I* want >to do this and that and do not want to waste time (as in my time) >sitting and doing nothing. > >I still do TM occasionally, though very, very occasionally -- not the >old twenty mintues twice a day that I did for a good while back in the >early '70s. I was never sure that it served any purpose, but I didn't >want to risk forgetting my mantra by letting too much time go by without >doing it. What do you do when you go outside to smoke? Is this time spent being quiet or thinking? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 13:51:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAJpS6q001029 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:51:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3D098@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:10:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14353171 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:10:49 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAJAmg03882 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:10:48 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAAJAktS3907806 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:10:46 -0600 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:10:46 -0600 (CST) From: nam gal sips clark X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Re the Episcopal Church In-Reply-To: <20031108211915.97058.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031108211915.97058.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > be built. The "Rocky" part is new to me. "Are they friendly spirits?" "Friendly? Just listen!" From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 13:51:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAJpS6r001029 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:51:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3D09F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:15:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14353450 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:15:32 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAJFWg04726 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:15:32 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAAJFU2f022497 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:15:30 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAAJFTJC022468; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:15:29 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031110111118.00a67ec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:11:55 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: REALTOR.com Listing #654145 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm not sure we can handle all the steps. We're an aging group. Who is going to get Theo to the top? Betty At 10:15 AM 11/10/2003 -0500, Marty Rosen wrote: >If you like town living, check this out (and do the currency conversion). >You could easily start a words-l lodge here: > >http://manitoulinrealestate.ca/detail.cfm?LI_ID=482 > >>From: Natalie >>Take a look at this property I found on REALTOR.com: >>http://www.realtor.com/Prop/1031128490 > >_________________________________________________________________ >Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $26.95. >https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 13:51:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAJpS6s001029 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:51:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3D10D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:24:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14354582 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:24:43 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAAJOfg07536 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:24:41 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:24:40 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:24:37 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Re the Episcopal Church Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hAAJpS6s001029 Hey, watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat! >>> rjscheid@NADAL.LOYNO.EDU 11/10/03 02:10PM >>> On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > be built. The "Rocky" part is new to me. "Are they friendly spirits?" "Friendly? Just listen!" From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 13:51:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAJpS6t001029 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:51:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3D158@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:29:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14355081 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:29:12 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAJTBg08728 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:29:11 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.169.168]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110192906.ZTOT20018.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:29:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAFE702.18FE790F@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:29:06 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Amy Burns Short wrote: > > >But her parents aren't citizens, don't pay taxes, are >officially > non-existent. Can she go to public school? > > But of course she can. This part is a non-issue. ? I think you're missing the point of this exercise. It's a made-up story to illustrate some of the questions being raised about the situation. It is a fact that children of illegal aliens are going to public schools now, but that is one of the many questions people have raised. Some people argue that they should not be able to -- that the laws should be changed. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 13:51:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAJpS6u001029 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:51:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3D151@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:30:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14355139 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:30:43 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAJUhg09025 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:30:43 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.169.168]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110193037.ZUJS20018.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:30:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAFE75E.9C8C962E@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:30:38 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens References: <277846384.20031110065722@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Um, Supreme Court rulings have been known to be changed. My > understanding is that in some school districts where there are more > illegal aliens than citizens, there are rumblings about wanting to > change this. Thank you for getting the point being made by the school example. I also have read that that is one of the questions some people are asking. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 13:51:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAJpS6v001029 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:51:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3D180@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:36:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14355608 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:36:15 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAJaEg10515 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:36:14 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.169.168]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110193607.ZXDP20018.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:36:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAFE8A7.36807BED@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:36:07 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: REALTOR.com Listing #598675 References: <4.2.2.20031109194054.00aa2ed0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031110083014.00b199b0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > Most people simply drive on > all-weather tires. I would probably just be a hermit all winter. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 13:51:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAJpS6w001029 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:51:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3D192@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:37:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14355667 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:37:06 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAJb5g10745 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:37:05 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.169.168]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110193700.ZXOB20018.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:37:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAFE8DC.349BC4D@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:37:00 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: REALTOR.com Listing #598675 References: <4.2.2.20031109194054.00aa2ed0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031110083014.00b199b0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU PS: But I just remembered that the reason I asked that question was thinking about how it might be fun to drive to Belfast sometime like xmas holidays and check it out. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 13:51:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAJpS6x001029 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:51:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3D17F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:38:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14355742 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:38:30 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAJcTg11024 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:38:30 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:38:19 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7773B@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Illegal Aliens Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:38:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] >Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 2:29 PM >Amy Burns Short wrote: >> >> >But her parents aren't citizens, don't pay taxes, are >officially >> non-existent. Can she go to public school? >> >> But of course she can. This part is a non-issue. > >? I think you're missing the point of this exercise. It's a made-up >story to illustrate some of the questions being raised about the >situation. It is a fact that children of illegal aliens are going to >public schools now, but that is one of the many questions people have >raised. Some people argue that they should not be able to -- that the >laws should be changed. Although our rate is not as high as elsewher, the raw population and and percentage of the population are increasing. One of the things we've implemented is a "identity card", which, IIRC, is green. It's not mean to replace any other form of official identification but to provide an opportunity for both the citizenry and anyone who interacts with them to make use of this identification. So far, things have gone very smoothly. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 14:12:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAKCL6q001289 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:12:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DAF2E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:38:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14350279 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:38:52 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f43.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.43]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAIbig30522 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:37:44 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:37:38 -0800 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:37:38 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: winter, whiskey, and canned goods Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:37:38 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2003 18:37:38.0471 (UTC) FILETIME=[B76DA370:01C3A7B9] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Excellent advice. Thank you. >From: Carolyn Ostrander >Another hint - keep flour, dried milk (preferable over canned), sugar, >cocoa, etc. and even peanut butter in glass jars or tight tins, not in >plastic, which mice can and will chew through. _________________________________________________________________ Is your computer infected with a virus? Find out with a FREE computer virus scan from McAfee. Take the FreeScan now! http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 14:12:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAKCL6r001289 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:12:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001DB058@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:07:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14352800 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:07:32 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAJ7Wg03149 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:07:32 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAAJ7UtS3981438 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:07:30 -0600 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:07:30 -0600 (CST) From: nam gal sips clark X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <3363e833a675.33a6753363e8@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <1132638490.20031108092155@WordWrite.com> <3FAD1C4A.3BE8B195@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >I no longer remember the text of the oath - I had to >sign it as a new TA at the UofA. To the US, as I recall. When I signed on here (UNO, nine-some years ago), there was a loyalty oath in the stack of new-employee papers. It mentioned both the state and the USA. I just quietly tucked it back in the stack unsigned, and they haven't caught up to me yet. -- if the jack-booted thugs kick my door down tonight, I'll know it was one of you who ratted me out From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 14:12:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAKCL6s001289 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:12:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DB15A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:34:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14355441 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:34:31 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAJYUg10011 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:34:30 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.169.168]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110193424.ZWFP20018.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:34:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAFE841.9C4EDF@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:34:25 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Signing with infants References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: > I haven't read any studies on it, but the theory is that kids develop the concept of language and enough hand coordination before they develop the muscle control for speech. I haven't read very much about it, but I think the idea came from observations that children born into signing families acquired language earlier than children born into speaking families. That led to the idea that it had to do with vocal muscles or whatever. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 14:12:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAKCL6t001289 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:12:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DB17E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:39:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14355100 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:39:29 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAJTSg08785 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:29:28 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAAJSh3W022651 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:28:44 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:29:25 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <200311101624.hAAGO7V01493@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: References: <200311101624.hAAGO7V01493@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >I refuse to force myself to do something I don't believe you can do anyway. What is the evidence that "you" can't do this? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 14:12:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAKCL6u001289 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:12:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DB210@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:53:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14357361 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:53:30 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAJrTg15120 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:53:29 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.169.168]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110195324.FDC20018.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:53:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAFECB4.7772BDF8@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:53:24 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Meldrum Bay References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen wrote: > purchase period. You settle on a price in Canadian dollars, but on a > transaction involving tens of thousands of dollars, a shift of one percent > can run into hundreds of dollars if it runs against the US dollar. We > transferred money early on in order to lock in a rate. I think I would let myself think in Canadian dollars -- or rather think that $1=$1. That way I would be happy when the final deal was finished unless the exchange rate got *really* bad (from the US pov) -- iow, unless $1 US got below $1 CAD. Thanks for the information. I had never thought about buying property in Canada, but it might make more sense than buying it in the northern US. Not that I'm about to hop up and buy anything either place. Still, it's fun to think about it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 14:41:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAKfR6q001568 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:41:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DB33E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:28:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14360224 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:28:33 -0500 Received: from vmmr7.verisignmail.com (omrnat2.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.153]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAKSWg21071 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:28:32 -0500 Received: from ms4.verisignmail.com (ms4.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.177] (may be forged)) by vmmr7.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id PDG72273; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:19:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by ms4.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id AUI98213; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:19:34 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:17:04 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens Reply-to: mem@noxiousweeds.net Message-ID: <3FAF65A0.22981.46CC57@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3FAFE702.18FE790F@maynor.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 10 Nov 2003 at 13:29, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Some people argue that they should not be able to -- that the > laws should be changed. If they change that, I hope they will also change the laws that require me to pay taxes to support schools to which I do not send children, have never sent children, and will never send children. Until then, any illegal alien is welcome to go to school on my dime. mem From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 14:58:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAKwm6q001734 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:58:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3846B1E6015F; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:53:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4567F1E6014A for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:53:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3D1D0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:44:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14356393 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:44:54 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAJirg12934 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:44:53 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.169.168]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110194447.BFD20018.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:44:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAFEAAF.64794CE3@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:44:47 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: REALTOR.com Listing #654145 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen wrote: > > If you like town living, check this out (and do the currency conversion). > You could easily start a words-l lodge here: > > http://manitoulinrealestate.ca/detail.cfm?LI_ID=482 My gosh, that's cheap! But it is also huge. Easily a Words-L lodge. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 14:58:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAKwm6q001737 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:58:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 49C191E60150; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:53:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53D991E6015A for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:53:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3D26F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:58:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14357858 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:58:10 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAJw8g16253 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:58:08 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.74.122]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HO5J6W01.Z16 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 12:52:08 -0700 Message-ID: <3FAFEE30.DB7814F5@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 12:59:44 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Trent Lott References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen wrote: > > Let's begin with me guessing what you might believe on a few subjects. > Please indicate your agreement or disagreement with the following > propositions, and we'll go from there. > > 1. Saddam Hussein had something to do with 9/11. > 2. During the period leading up to the U.S. attack on iraq, Iraq possessed > weapons of mass destruction. > 3. Iraq's weapons of mass destruction posed a threat to the U.S. > 4. The Bush administration's foreign policy has made the world safer for the > U.S. > 5. The liberation of Iraq will lead to the spread of democratic rule in the > Middle East. > 6. Deregulating the power industry has reduced costs to consumers and led to > increased efficiencies. > 7. Raising the minimum wage has an adverse effect on the economy. > 8. Banning smoking in bars and restaurants causes bars and restaurants to go > out of business. > 9. White males are at an economic disadvantage in the U.S. compared to women > and minority males. You're one for nine. Number 8, around here anyway, is true for bars but not restaurants. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 14:58:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAKwn6q001751 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:58:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8197F1E6014D; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:53:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8763F1E60160 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:53:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3D37C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:27:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14360140 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:27:18 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAKRIg20879 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:27:18 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001DB34E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:27:18 -0500 Message-Id: <200311102027.hAAKRIg20879@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:27:18 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: octopuses get erections To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:09:36 -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: >>>They frequently volunteer to be the subjects for the >>development of the >>>medication(s) in question. >> >>Much more frequently they suffer, fall further into debt, and >>die young. >>clo > >I was quite serious. I expect Clo was, too--and I agree strongly with her. >(Think about the fact I'm from Indianapolis and the fact there's a large >pharmaceutical company here) It doesn't matter. The qualifications for studies are frequently quite narrow and exclusionary. And sometimes they require a lot of time, which the working poor are short of to start. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 14:58:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAKwn6q001749 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:58:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7D7C41E6014A; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:53:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 848151E6015C for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:53:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3D301@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:09:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14358999 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:09:52 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAK9og18235 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:09:51 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:09:44 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77740@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: octopuses get erections Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:09:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Carolyn Ostrander [mailto:clostran@SYR.EDU] >Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 2:51 PM >On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:25:33 -0500, Phil Paxton > wrote: > >>>From: Theo Groothof [mailto:Dutchessg1@AOL.COM] >>>Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 8:18 PM >> >>>In a message dated 11/6/2003 6:40:55 AM, >>>dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes: >>> >>>>If I am too poor to afford medical treatment I am unlikley to >>>be detached >>>from pain >>> >>>Definitely. Just picked up my monthly supply of 2 drugs at $121.00 >>>I think it's outrageous! What do poor people do? Just suffer? >> >>They frequently volunteer to be the subjects for the >development of the >>medication(s) in question. > >Much more frequently they suffer, fall further into debt, and >die young. >clo I was quite serious. (Think about the fact I'm from Indianapolis and the fact there's a large pharmaceutical company here) Eli Lilly is downtown and there is a substantial body of persons who participate as test subjects. There's a writeup about the subjects once or twice a year in the largest local indie newspaper, interviewing some of the subjects regarding what trials they sign up for, how much money they make, if they can participate in more than one study at a time [or not], etc. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 14:58:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAKwm6q001736 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:58:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3D6D11E6014D; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:53:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A6961E60150 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:53:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3D247@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:53:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14356326 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:53:46 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAJhjg12713 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:43:45 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAAJh13W028108 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:43:01 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:43:44 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: condo progress Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This morning by happy accident I met a guy who used to work for the Longs (previous owner of my condo) - he gave me a few more details about renovations that were made. For instance, my wet bar used to be a bathroom. We pulled up the carpet so he could show me the old tile floor. He was also able to verify that all the rest of the carpeted area is finished hardwood parquet - as I had hoped. I will pull up the carpet from the living room, den, and wet bar soon. Then I will have the wet bar floor retiled. (It is a bathroom color right now, a cream color that does not go with the wet bar scheme - mostly black and white. Also one small section is concrete.) Later, I will invade the hallway and bedrooms. I am very happy about this - putting in parquet flooring was going to be a major summer 2004 project. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 14:58:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAKwm6q001738 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:58:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4CCBD1E6015A; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:53:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 583801E6015C for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:53:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3D29F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:00:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14358153 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:00:52 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAK0pg16643 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:00:51 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.169.168]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110200046.ILL20018.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:00:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3FAFEE69.9D29CBD5@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:00:41 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031110105147.00a5f8d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > What do you do when you go outside to smoke? Is this time spent being > quiet or thinking? It varies. If you're talking about on campus, I most often talk to somebody. At home I sometimes read or sometimes make mental lists or think about decisions I need to make or whatever. When traveling I look at road atlases or books or whatever. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 14:58:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAKwm6q001735 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:58:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3B1441E6014A; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:53:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 485F81E6014D for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:53:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3D228@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:51:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14357147 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:51:10 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAJpAg14610 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:51:10 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001DB216@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:51:10 -0500 Message-Id: <200311101951.hAAJpAg14610@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:51:10 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: octopuses get erections To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:25:33 -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: >>From: Theo Groothof [mailto:Dutchessg1@AOL.COM] >>Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 8:18 PM > >>In a message dated 11/6/2003 6:40:55 AM, >>dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes: >> >>>If I am too poor to afford medical treatment I am unlikley to >>be detached >>from pain >> >>Definitely. Just picked up my monthly supply of 2 drugs at $121.00 >>I think it's outrageous! What do poor people do? Just suffer? > >They frequently volunteer to be the subjects for the development of the >medication(s) in question. Much more frequently they suffer, fall further into debt, and die young. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 15:04:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAL4d6q001846 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:04:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5820E1E6015A; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:59:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A401E6014D for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:59:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3D468@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:52:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14362296 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:52:17 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAKqHg25147 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:52:17 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DB41B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:52:17 -0500 Message-Id: <200311102052.hAAKqHg25147@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:52:17 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Survivor To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:16:56 -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: >>From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > >>Phil Paxton wrote: >> >>> >I am soooo mad. >>> >>> Why? Because they got rid of Savage? >> >>Yes, and because the Boy Scout woman is back. > >When I was a Boy Scout we would have done things to a woman scout leader >such that she'd think twice about doing such things. When were you a Boy Scout? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 15:21:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAALLq6q002071 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:21:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0AD811E60150; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:16:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2DB61E6014D for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:16:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3D507@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:09:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14363909 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:09:29 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAL9Tg28530 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:09:29 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001DB4E9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:09:29 -0500 Message-Id: <200311102109.hAAL9Tg28530@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:09:29 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Survivor To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:32:29 -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: >>From: Peter Kaminski [mailto:kaminski@ISTORI.COM] >>Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 5:12 PM > >>Lynne Weber writes, >> >>>When did female Boy Scout leaders come on the scene? >>>About what year, I mean? >> >>Perhaps around 1936 >>: >> >>>1936 Registrations of den mothers was made "optional"; before >>this year, >>>it was not permitted. >> >>m-w sez "den mother" dates to 1946: >> >>>Main Entry:den mother >>>Function:noun >>>Date:1946 >>>: a female adult leader of a Cub Scout den; also : a person >>seen in the >>>role of leader or protector of a group > >A den mother and a troop leader are not the same thing. There are cub >scouts, webelos (sp?), and boy scouts. Boy scouts are 11-18. During my >tenure as a Boy Scout, there'd have been a lot of situations it wouldn't >have been very good for a lady to have been around. If you're out in the >middle of nowhere and you're washing clothes, hanging them to dry, not >always dressed to the nines, etc. I don't know an adult female would have >been comfortable, either. You're kidding, right? sez the girl who went to boy scout camp clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 15:23:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAALNc6q002090 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:23:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 571281E6014D; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:18:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26CA61E60128 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:18:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3D50B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:11:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14364055 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:11:15 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAALBFg28888 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:11:15 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DB4D7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:11:15 -0500 Message-Id: <200311102111.hAALBFg28888@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:11:15 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Survivor To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:38:51 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >No, no, Pete. Den mothers were quite another thing. >Den mothers were the distaff mascots of cub and boy >scout troops. They baked cookies and mended camp >jackets, etc. They never really led anyone anywhere. > >A scout leader, on the other hand, has official duties >and powers. I don't think a woman could have been a >leader during the 1930's. It just wasn't done. > Give me a break! I was emphatically not a distaff mascot! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 15:24:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAALOI6q002095 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:24:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2406C1E60150; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:19:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAC2B1E6014D for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:19:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3D50D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:11:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14364078 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:11:53 -0500 Received: from imo-r01.mx.aol.com (imo-r01.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.97]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAALBqg28985 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:11:52 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1c2.1177cd85 (18707) for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:11:34 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1c2.1177cd85.2ce15905@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:11:33 EST Subject: Re: headphones To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/10/2003 10:22:59 AM, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: >I think I have almost perfected the maneuver >>to put an earplug in with one hand. Perhaps now you realize what life is like when you have the use of one hand at AL times! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 15:27:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAALRN6q002153 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:27:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5E6C81E6014D; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:22:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20DD81E60128 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:22:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3D532@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:15:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14364361 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:15:00 -0500 Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com (imo-r06.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.102]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAALExg29907 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:14:59 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.69.3dafc556 (18707) for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:14:42 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <69.3dafc556.2ce159c1@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:14:41 EST Subject: Re: Prime Meeber! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/10/2003 10:36:21 AM, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: >and from me belatedly >clo > >From me also, and many more happy ones included! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 15:28:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAALSR6q002164 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:28:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9317C1E60150; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:23:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DDF71E60128 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:23:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3D551@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:16:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14364420 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:16:05 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAALFxg30142 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:16:00 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:15:53 PST Message-ID: <20031110211553.52366.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:15:53 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Signing with infants To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <154.270b61c7.2ce07f17@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Theo Groothof wrote: > Well, don't feel bad. I read everything, but I > didn't remember it being > discussed until I saw it today. And I still don't remember it, and I am especially interested in ASL. btw, Theo, how's ol' Micky? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 15:31:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAALVF6q002236 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:31:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C78581E60128; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:26:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D19AC1E60150 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:26:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3D562@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:18:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14364667 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:18:53 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAALIqg30914 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:18:52 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:18:46 PST Message-ID: <20031110211846.85558.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:18:46 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Re the Episcopal Church To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.0.20031110110727.027a31a8@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Espen Ore wrote: > Petros Sorry, didn't intend to change his gender. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 15:36:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAALaM6q002345 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:36:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A7A1D1E6015A; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:31:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6A971E60150 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:31:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3D597@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:24:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14365116 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:24:00 -0500 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.99]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAALNxg31952 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:24:00 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.108.2848c56f (18707) for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:23:40 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <108.2848c56f.2ce15bdc@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:23:40 EST Subject: Re: octopuses get erections To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/10/2003 10:58:11 AM, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: >or who are obsessed because they fear to lose the safety >they believe money brings. > I have come to the conclusion that most Americans are very much obsessed with money.It simply doesn't matter to me as long as I have enough to provide for all my basic needs, and perhaps some extras to boot. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 15:41:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAALfW6q002431 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:41:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 88E071E6015A; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:36:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D81621E60150 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:36:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3D5DA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:29:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14365701 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:29:10 -0500 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAALTAg01139 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:29:10 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1d8.14107e49 (18707) for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:28:53 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1d8.14107e49.2ce15d15@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:28:53 EST Subject: Re: mcedness To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/10/2003 12:56:29 PM, bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU writes: >What do you do when you go outside to smoke? Is this time spent being >quiet or thinking? > You don't smoke indoors? What is this obsession about smoke? Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 15:44:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAALiO6q002459 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:44:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 656571E6015A; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:39:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F2F91E6015B for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:39:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001DB5C3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:31:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14366009 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:31:58 -0500 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAALVvg01933 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:31:57 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1ef.12f9efd2 (18707) for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:31:42 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1ef.12f9efd2.2ce15dbe@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:31:42 EST Subject: Re: REALTOR.com Listing #654145 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/10/2003 1:15:58 PM, bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU writes: >I'm not sure we can handle all the steps. We're an aging group. Who is >going to get Theo to the top? > >Betty > Good question, Betty! Perhaps she'll install an elevator? Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 15:50:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAALo76q002546 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:50:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 11B011E60150; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:44:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56D261E6013C for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:44:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3D61C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:37:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14366500 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:37:45 -0500 Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (imo-r05.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAALbig02962 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:37:44 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.f4.335b88be (18707) for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:37:21 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:37:21 EST Subject: Re: octopuses get erections To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/10/2003 1:54:02 PM, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: >>They frequently volunteer to be the subjects for the development of the >>medication(s) in question. > There's no way I'd volunteer, even if I needed a newer version of my drugs. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 15:56:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAALuo6q002604 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:56:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CAC3E1E60154; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:51:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FC351E6013C for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:51:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3D661@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:44:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14367028 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:44:28 -0500 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAALiRg04495 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:44:27 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.14f.265a4e17 (18707) for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:44:12 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <14f.265a4e17.2ce160ac@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:44:12 EST Subject: Re: Trent Lott To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> 1. Saddam Hussein had something to do with 9/11. >> 2. During the period leading up to the U.S. attack on iraq, Iraq possessed >> weapons of mass destruction. >> 3. Iraq's weapons of mass destruction posed a threat to the U.S. >> 4. The Bush administration's foreign policy has made the world safer >for the >> U.S. >> 5. The liberation of Iraq will lead to the spread of democratic rule >in the >> Middle East. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 15:59:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAALxC6q002619 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:59:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 45EB61E6013C; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:54:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5B161E60154 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:54:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001DB64C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:46:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14367356 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:46:49 -0500 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAALkng05060 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:46:49 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1e8.12cc622f (4568) for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:46:21 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1e8.12cc622f.2ce1612c@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:46:20 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] mcedness To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/10/2003 3:29:41 PM Central Standard Time, Dutchessg1@AOL.COM writes: << You don't smoke indoors? What is this obsession about smoke? >> A lot of communities have rules banning smoking in public buildings. Here in Tulsa, a law was passed banning smoking in all restaurants unless the restaurant has a self-contained smoking room with a separate ventilation system. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Two days until Bennie arrives! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 16:01:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAM1f6q002659 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:01:42 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 440381E60158; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:56:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 772D31E60150 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:56:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3D6B5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:49:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14367802 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:49:19 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAALnIg05805 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:49:18 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:49:12 PST Message-ID: <20031110214912.76979.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:49:12 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FAF65A0.22981.46CC57@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Michael E. Macmillan" > If they change that, I hope they will also change > the laws that > require me to pay taxes to support schools to which > I do not send > children, have never sent children, and will never > send children. > Until then, any illegal alien is welcome to go to > school on my > dime. Yes, mem, but I'll wager many childless folks paid school taxes which saw you through the public system. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 16:05:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAM5I6q002715 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:05:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 47E4F1E60158; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:00:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED7581E60154 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:00:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001DB69C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:52:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14368166 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:52:57 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAALqug06591 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:52:56 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAALqteO026457 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:52:55 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAALqsa2026426; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:52:54 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031110134756.00a56ec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:49:20 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <1d8.14107e49.2ce15d15@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:28 PM 11/10/2003 -0500, Theo Groothof wrote: >In a message dated 11/10/2003 12:56:29 PM, bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU writes: > > >What do you do when you go outside to smoke? Is this time spent being > >quiet or thinking? > > > >You don't smoke indoors? What is this obsession about smoke? >Theo It's not allowed in any building on our campus. You also have to be so many feet away from a doorway. It stinks. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 16:07:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAM716q002734 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:07:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 26D371E6015B; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:01:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4F871E6013C for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:01:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001DB6AF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:54:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14368270 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:54:39 -0500 Received: from fe2.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAALsdg06928 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:54:39 -0500 Received: from [136.167.88.199] (HELO bc.edu) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.5) with ESMTP id 34514915 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:54:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB0091B.5000809@bc.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:54:35 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens References: <20031110214912.76979.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031110214912.76979.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > >Yes, mem, but I'll wager many childless folks paid >school taxes which saw you through the public system. > > > Why do you assume that mem went through school in the public system? I'm sure that some of us did not. I'm positive about one of us. Rita L. -- Rita Leonard Information Technology Systems Services O'Neill Library 544 Phone: 617-552-3403 Email: rita.leonard@bc.edu "Whether you believe you can do a thing or not, you are right." Henry Ford From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 16:11:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAMB26q002765 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:11:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9E8031E60153; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:05:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 481111E6013C for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:05:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3D714@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:58:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14368520 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:58:40 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAALwdg07671 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:58:40 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:58:34 PST Message-ID: <20031110215834.76984.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:58:34 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Survivor To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200311102111.hAALBFg28888@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:38:51 -0800, Lynne Weber > > wrote: > > >No, no, Pete. Den mothers were quite another > thing. > >Den mothers were the distaff mascots of cub and boy > >scout troops. They baked cookies and mended camp > >jackets, etc. They never really led anyone > anywhere. > > > >A scout leader, on the other hand, has official > duties > >and powers. I don't think a woman could have been > a > >leader during the 1930's. It just wasn't done. > > > > Give me a break! I was emphatically not a distaff > mascot! I have obviously missed some of this thread, but if you were a Boy Scout leader, please give us a viable date and I will be happy to accept it as evidence of one of the first female leaders. If you are saying you went to Boy Scout Camp as a member of a troop, you went under false pretenses, or were allowed in because it was convenient or entertaining for someone. If you were truly considered a Boy Scout, there is something basic you are not telling us. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 16:12:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAMCm6q002787 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:12:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2B6EA1E60153; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:07:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB64C1E6013C for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:07:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3D749@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:00:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14368856 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:00:25 -0500 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAM0Pg08140 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:00:25 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.a9.4ad6c6f4 (18707) for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:00:09 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:00:09 EST Subject: Re: mcedness To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/10/2003 3:47:28 PM, BrandyKitt@AOL.COM writes: >A lot of communities have rules banning smoking in public >buildings. Here in Tulsa, a law was passed banning smoking >in all restaurants unless the restaurant has a self-contained >smoking room with a separate ventilation system. > I know that rule, but I was thinking that Betty was referring to her own house. Theo PS. Ny previous post Re:Trent Lott was send before I had finished adding my comments, and I had NOT hit the send button, so please don't accuse me again! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 16:13:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAMD56q002790 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:13:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 845311E60153; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:07:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23F821E6013C for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:07:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DB6D6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:00:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14368959 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:00:44 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAM0ig08220 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:00:44 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001DB6F1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:00:43 -0500 Message-Id: <200311102200.hAAM0ig08220@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:00:43 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: mcedness To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:49:20 -0800, Betty Clark wrote: [about smoking] >It's not allowed in any building on our campus. You also have to be so >many feet away from a doorway. It stinks. Only if they aren't far enough away from the doorway. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 16:14:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAMEH6q002808 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:14:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A69B31E60153; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:09:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D9A61E6013C for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:09:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3D78D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:01:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14369463 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:01:55 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAM1tg08600 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:01:55 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DB70F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:01:55 -0500 Message-Id: <200311102201.hAAM1tg08600@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:01:54 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Survivor To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 8 Nov 2003 07:29:47 -0700, John Williams wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: Natalie Maynor > >> They are telling cases for what is growing >> more and more obvious to many people: Republican = Racist. > > Okay, you've got me. Yep, all Republicans are racist. But, it's >not my fault. During my formative years my guiding lights were Orville >Faubus, Lester Maddox, and George Wallace. > >JMW Last night I saw Lester Maddox... clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 16:16:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAMGC6q002819 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:16:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 607CB1E6015C; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:11:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07FF11E6013C for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:11:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001DB74F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:03:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14369762 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:03:44 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAM3ig09087 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:03:44 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001DB74D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:03:43 -0500 Message-Id: <200311102203.hAAM3ig09087@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:03:43 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Survivor To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:44:13 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, John Williams wrote: > >> Okay, you've got me. Yep, all Republicans are racist. But, it's >>not my fault. During my formative years my guiding lights were Orville >>Faubus, Lester Maddox, and George Wallace. > >Speaking of Orville ... I met my first Republicans in Fayetteville, Ark. >When I drove into Fayetteville for the first time Fall 1959, there were >signs on all highways into F-ville saying "Entering Fayetteville/Leaving >Arkansas" (because of Act X) - in Fayetteville, I knew 2 Republicans - >no, 3 - I almost forgot the pre-med student whom I dated for a short time- >he worked for the 2 drs. who were the other 2 Republicans. > >I always had the feeling that the 2 drs. were Republicans only because >they thought that Arkansas desperately needed a 2-party system - which of >course it got almost immediately. > >When I moved to Knoxville, I occasionally told people that I had known >only 2 other people in my life (sorry about your omission, pre-med >student) who admitted to being Republicans. That probably made me sound >like a woman from Mars. > >Bethany My father's still a registered Republican so he can write-in for Al Sharpton in the primaries. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 16:16:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAMGD6q002822 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:16:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9BB2F1E6013C; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:11:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 414D91E60153 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:11:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DB734@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:03:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14369775 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:03:51 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAM3pg09108 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:03:51 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3D7B7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:03:50 -0500 Message-Id: <200311102203.hAAM3pg09108@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:03:50 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: mcedness To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:00:09 EST, Theo Groothof wrote: >In a message dated 11/10/2003 3:47:28 PM, BrandyKitt@AOL.COM writes: > >>A lot of communities have rules banning smoking in public >>buildings. Here in Tulsa, a law was passed banning smoking >>in all restaurants unless the restaurant has a self-contained >>smoking room with a separate ventilation system. >> >I know that rule, but I was thinking that Betty was referring to her own >house. It was Natalie, and she was talking about her office. >PS. Ny previous post Re:Trent Lott was send before I had finished adding my >comments, and I had NOT hit the send button, so please don't accuse me again! So your Mac screwed up and sent it spontaneously? How exactly did it get sent if you didn't push the button? Inquiring minds want to know. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 16:21:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAMLb6q002859 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:21:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B7A921E6013C; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:16:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B5A1E60153 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:16:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3D800@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:09:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14370337 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:09:15 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAAM9Fg10509 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:09:15 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:09:10 PST Message-ID: <20031110220910.95344.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:09:10 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FB0091B.5000809@bc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Rita Leonard wrote: > Why do you assume that mem went through school in > the public system? > I'm sure that some of us did not. I'm positive > about one of us. If you did not go through the public school system, it was because your family opted to pay MORE money to get you a more "exclusive" education. That is everyone's right. It does not obviate the responsibility of tax payers to support the public system. If you want extra frills, you pay for them. None of my grandparents drove cars, but they paid taxes that were used, in part, to maintain and build roads. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 16:24:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAMOG6q002896 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:24:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 242761E6015E; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:19:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD0941E6015C for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:19:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3D7FF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:11:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14370545 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:11:54 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAAMBHg10926 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:11:18 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:11:12 PST Message-ID: <20031110221112.79258.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:11:12 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Survivor To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200311102201.hAAM1tg08600@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > Last night I saw Lester Maddox... > clo Oh, brother, not more dead people. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 16:30:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAMUI6q002927 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:30:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9EA3A1E6015F; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:25:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C3DB1E6015E for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:25:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3D84D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:17:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14371060 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:17:56 -0500 Received: from fe3.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAMHug11981 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:17:56 -0500 Received: from [136.167.88.199] (HELO bc.edu) by fe3.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.5) with ESMTP id 35676083 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:17:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB00E94.7010508@bc.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:17:56 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens References: <20031110220910.95344.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031110220910.95344.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: >If you did not go through the public school system, it >was because your family opted to pay MORE money to get >you a more "exclusive" education. That is everyone's >right. It does not obviate the responsibility of tax >payers to support the public system. If you want >extra frills, you pay for them. None of my >grandparents drove cars, but they paid taxes that were >used, in part, to maintain and build roads. > > > I wasn't disputing your point, merely your assumption about someone else's education. Rita L. (trying very hard to picture my education as "frilly") From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 16:30:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAMUf6q002931 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:30:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A8B7E1E6015E; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:25:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79F5D1E6015C for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:25:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3D841@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:18:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14371091 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:18:19 -0500 Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAMIJg12084 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:18:19 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.26.4131351b (18707) for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:18:04 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <26.4131351b.2ce1689b@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:18:03 EST Subject: Re: mcedness To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/10/2003 4:05:40 PM, karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: >So your Mac screwed up and sent it spontaneously? How exactly did it get >sent if you didn't push the button? > >Inquiring minds want to know. > I had started to type the reply, when the spell checker came up because it did not agree with one of the words. When I hit "cancel", it was send without any of my reply..... :-( But I don't think it was my MAC screwing it up though. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 16:31:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAMV96q002936 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:31:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9CB021E6015E; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:25:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A05A1E6015C for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:25:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3D85D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:18:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14371107 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:18:47 -0500 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAMIlg12150 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:18:47 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.178.2224d247 (4568) for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:18:38 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <178.2224d247.2ce168bd@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:18:37 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Survivor To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/10/2003 4:12:18 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << Oh, brother, not more dead people. >> There's a lot of dead people I'd love to talk with: Burgess Meredith, Oppenheimer, John Reed, Lillian Gish. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Two days until Bennie arrives! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 16:37:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAMb76q003004 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:37:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0AF1A1E6015F; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:31:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB6A01E6015E for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:31:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3D891@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:24:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14371572 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:24:46 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAMOjg13046 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:24:45 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-49.gwi.net [216.195.151.49]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAAMOiGn026251 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:24:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031110172430.00b2adc8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:25:07 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: REALTOR.com Listing #598675 In-Reply-To: <3FAFE8DC.349BC4D@maynor.net> References: <4.2.2.20031109194054.00aa2ed0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031110083014.00b199b0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >PS: But I just remembered that the reason I asked that question was >thinking about how it might be fun to drive to Belfast sometime like >xmas holidays and check it out. -- Natalie Well, if you are up this way, be sure to drop in. We'd even feed you Christmas dinner. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 16:37:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAMbo6q003007 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:37:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A984E1E6015E; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:32:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78E241E6015C for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:32:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3D88A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:25:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14370878 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:25:28 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAMF9g11544 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:15:09 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAAMEE3W013453 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:14:26 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:14:57 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031110134756.00a56ec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031110134756.00a56ec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Betty Clark wrote: >It's not allowed in any building on our campus. You also have to be so >many feet away from a doorway. It stinks. It does indeed. That's why we moved it outside. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 16:39:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAMd36q003027 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:39:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ABCA01E6015E; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:33:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B9EB1E6015C for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:33:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3D8A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:26:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14371750 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:26:41 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAAMQfg13354 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:26:41 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:26:36 PST Message-ID: <20031110222636.53355.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:26:36 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FB00E94.7010508@bc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Rita Leonard wrote: > I wasn't disputing your point, merely your > assumption about someone > else's education. > > Rita L. (trying very hard to picture my education as "frilly") If it was not a significantly different physical campus in a significantly better neighborhood, offering a significantly different (and "better") curriculum, than you may as well have saved your family the money, and gone to public school. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 16:40:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAMee6q003045 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:40:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 707F51E6015F; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:35:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 410371E6015C for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:35:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3D893@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:28:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14371827 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:28:18 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAAMSIg13632 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:28:18 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:28:13 PST Message-ID: <20031110222813.84130.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:28:13 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: mcedness To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <26.4131351b.2ce1689b@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Theo Groothof wrote: > I had started to type the reply, when the spell > checker came up because it > did not agree with one of the words. > When I hit "cancel", it was send without any of my > reply..... :-( > But I don't think it was my MAC screwing it up > though. It is time for a complete exorcism by the most powerful cleric available. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 16:41:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAMfa6q003073 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:41:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BF3041E6015E; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:36:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90CB41E6015C for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:36:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3D8B3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:29:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14371886 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:29:14 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAAMTEg13812 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:29:14 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:29:09 PST Message-ID: <20031110222909.89945.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:29:09 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Survivor To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <178.2224d247.2ce168bd@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > In a message dated 11/10/2003 4:12:18 PM Central > Standard Time, > lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: > << > Oh, brother, not more dead people. > >> > > There's a lot of dead people I'd love to talk with: > Burgess Meredith, Oppenheimer, John Reed, > Lillian Gish. Well, me too. But Lester Maddox??? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 16:46:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAMkW6q003105 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:46:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 236131E6015F; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:41:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E47781E6015E for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:41:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3D8C9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:34:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14372133 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:34:08 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAMXjg14347 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:33:45 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.169.168]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110223340.JBVR1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:33:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB01245.42143303@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:33:41 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: REALTOR.com Listing #654145 References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031110111118.00a67ec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > > I'm not sure we can handle all the steps. We're an aging group. Who is > going to get Theo to the top? We don't all have to go to the top. The list youths can have their quarters up there. Or we can use it for storage of our xmas decorations and stuff and hire a maintenance person to come get it down and do the decorating. Our main communing will be on the first floor. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 16:47:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAMlB6q003109 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:47:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F33B61E6015F; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:41:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C44301E6015E for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:41:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001DB850@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:34:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14372164 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:34:49 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAMYUg14452 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:34:30 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-49.gwi.net [216.195.151.49]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAAMYTGn028112 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:34:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031110173305.00b35318@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:34:53 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens In-Reply-To: <3FB00E94.7010508@bc.edu> References: <20031110220910.95344.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> <20031110220910.95344.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Lynne Weber wrote: >>If you did not go through the public school system, it >>was because your family opted to pay MORE money to get >>you a more "exclusive" education. > >Rita L. (trying very hard to picture my education as "frilly") Or "exclusive". There were five Catholic grade schools in the town of about 45,000 people where I grew up. The good nuns were not "frilly" and the education was not "exclusive". bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 16:48:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAMmR6q003125 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:48:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7AD0C1E6015E; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:43:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CC9A1E6015C for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:43:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3D8CB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:36:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14372289 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:36:05 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAAMa5g14693 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:36:05 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:36:00 PST Message-ID: <20031110223600.55131.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:36:00 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: REALTOR.com Listing #598675 To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <166.280e3781.2ce0f259@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > I wish someone from Maine would come to Tulsa and > instruct the > city on how to properly remove snow from the > streets. The city > acts as if snow is something completely alien. Ho ho! The street departments in the State of Alabama spiral into incoherent chaos! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 16:49:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAMnA6q003129 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:49:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CA3A21E6015E; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:43:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 978B41E6015C for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:43:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3D8DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:36:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14372332 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:36:48 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAMamg14794 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:36:48 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.169.168]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110223643.JDRC1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:36:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB012FB.2F7D7DAF@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:36:43 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens References: <3FAF65A0.22981.46CC57@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Michael E. Macmillan" wrote: > > Some people argue that they should not be able to -- that the > > laws should be changed. > > If they change that, I hope they will also change the laws that I doubt that it's going to be changed any time soon. > require me to pay taxes to support schools to which I do not send > children, have never sent children, and will never send children. You're against public schools? I'm a great believer in them and always vote yes on millage votes or whatever you call them -- things that raise taxes to give more money to the schools. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 16:50:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAMo76q003145 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:50:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 68A571E6015C; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:44:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 297BE1E6015E for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:44:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3D8F1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:37:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14372408 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:37:40 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAMbdg14950 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:37:39 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.169.168]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110223734.JEEF1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:37:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB0132F.CC63E58D@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:37:35 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Signing with infants References: <20031110211553.52366.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > And I still don't remember it, and I am especially > interested in ASL. It was just a brief reference when we were talking about reading and memories and stuff. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 16:52:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAMqm6q003169 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:52:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7D77C1E6015F; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:47:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E8561E6015C for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:47:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3D8E6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:40:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14372544 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:40:26 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAMeQg15327 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:40:26 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001DB87B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:40:26 -0500 Message-Id: <200311102240.hAAMeQg15327@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:40:26 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Signing with infants To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I keep reading this as 'singing with infants'. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 16:53:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAMrU6q003173 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:53:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9E7A61E6015F; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:48:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F70D1E6015E for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:48:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001DB878@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:41:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14372589 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:41:08 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAMf8g15417 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:41:08 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.169.168]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110224103.JGHE1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:41:03 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB013FF.B5101D45@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:41:03 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness References: <1d8.14107e49.2ce15d15@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > >What do you do when you go outside to smoke? Is this time spent being > >quiet or thinking? > > You don't smoke indoors? What is this obsession about smoke? I'm not sure about your second question -- about obsession. In answer to your first question, no. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 16:54:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAMso6q003195 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:54:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C095E1E6015C; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:49:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A5DE1E6015E for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:49:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3D902@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:42:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14372695 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:42:28 -0500 Received: from fe1.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAMgSg15631 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:42:28 -0500 Received: from [136.167.88.199] (HELO bc.edu) by fe1.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.5) with ESMTP id 37145507 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:42:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB0144F.8030400@bc.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:42:23 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens References: <20031110220910.95344.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> <20031110220910.95344.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031110173305.00b35318@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031110173305.00b35318@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Or "exclusive". There were five Catholic grade schools in the town of > about 45,000 people where I grew up. The good nuns were not "frilly" and > the education was not "exclusive". > > Thank you, Bonnie. I believe that you and I are on the "same page". :-) It was a very good education, though. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 16:57:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAMvs6q003242 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:57:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4E2701E6015F; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:52:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F6E21E6015C for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:52:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3D90B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:45:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14372802 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:45:03 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAMj2g16056 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:45:03 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.169.168]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110224457.JIRZ1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:44:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB014E8.AE48BF9E@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:44:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness References: <1e8.12cc622f.2ce1612c@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > A lot of communities have rules banning smoking in public > buildings. I would not smoke in a public building even if legal since some people don't like to be around smoke. I do not smoke in my house or car because I don't like the smell of smoke inside. One of the various things I loved about that great motel in Belfast was that every room had an outside balcony overlooking the green expanse and water -- a great place to smoke and stare at the scenery. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 16:57:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAMvs6q003239 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:57:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C57A31E6015E; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:51:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 978B61E6015C for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:51:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3D90A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:44:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14372787 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:44:46 -0500 Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAMikg15986 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:44:46 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.16e.26207887 (18707) for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:44:39 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <16e.26207887.2ce16ed7@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:44:39 EST Subject: Re: mcedness To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/10/2003 4:28:44 PM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: >It is time for a complete exorcism by the most >powerful cleric available. > Yes, I agree! I spend all morning trying to update all the stuff on my hard drive, and ran into several problems. I'd love to get system 10, but I'm not sure my old driver can take it. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 17:00:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAN0T6q003261 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:00:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 907DB1E6015F; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:55:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B0511E6015E for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:55:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001DB898@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:48:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14372907 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:47:58 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAMlvg16432 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:47:57 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.169.168]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110224752.JKKE1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:47:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB01599.9B994C69@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:47:53 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness References: <200311102203.hAAM3pg09108@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > >I know that rule, but I was thinking that Betty was referring to her own > >house. > > It was Natalie, and she was talking about her office. Betty asked the question, and I don't think she specified the location. My reply mentioned various locations -- office, house, car (car in the sense of being on a trip and stopping along the way). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 17:05:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAN5D6q003314 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:05:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 571461E6015F; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:00:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25CAB1E6015E for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:00:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3D916@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:52:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14373053 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:52:51 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAMqog17044 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:52:51 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAAMqneO020375 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:52:49 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAAMqma2020347; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:52:49 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031110144827.00a67530@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:49:13 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <200311102200.hAAM0ig08220@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:00 PM 11/10/2003 -0500, Karen Kay wrote: >On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:49:20 -0800, Betty Clark > wrote: >[about smoking] > >It's not allowed in any building on our campus. You also have to be so > >many feet away from a doorway. It stinks. > >Only if they aren't far enough away from the doorway. > >Karen She asked why. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 17:09:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAAN9Z6q003376 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:09:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 76DD21E6015F; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:04:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47BDC1E6015E for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:04:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DB8A0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:57:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14373274 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:57:13 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAMvDg17570 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:57:13 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.169.168]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110225708.JPKW1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:57:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB017C4.ECCC3A66@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:57:08 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: REALTOR.com Listing #598675 References: <4.2.2.20031109194054.00aa2ed0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031110083014.00b199b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031110172430.00b2adc8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Well, if you are up this way, be sure to drop in. We'd even feed you > Christmas dinner. Now that is a very kind invitation! It won't be right at Christmas, though. I'm flying to NYC that day. Will come home the 29th. I could then turn around and drive to Maine, but I guess that's probably not really a very good time. There's also a chance that I'm not going to be teaching next semester, which will give me lots of opportunities. I'm really hoping I'm not going to be. I'm scheduled (unofficially, of course, since I won't be hired for it until the semester starts -- my name isn't in the schedule since I'm not a real employee) for just one course next semester, one that is not required of anybody, that meets at 8:00 (which some students don't like), and that is listed in the schedule as being taught by "staff" (which makes some students suspicious). Only a few students have pre-registered for it so far, and I have been urging my dept head to cancel it right away so that those students can find something else to take -- telling him that I really don't think there's going to be a huge rush of last-minute registrations for it and that it would make much more sense to cancel it right now than later. I'm going to push him on it again tomorrow. It would fun to have spring off! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 17:12:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAANC66q003389 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:12:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 64C851E6015C; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:06:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31C6A1E6015E for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:06:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3D957@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:59:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14373600 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:59:43 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAMxhg17989 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:59:43 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.169.168]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110225938.JQVE1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:59:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB0185A.A6B95AC8@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:59:38 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens References: <20031110222636.53355.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > If it was not a significantly different physical > campus in a significantly better neighborhood, > offering a significantly different (and "better") > curriculum, than you may as well have saved your > family the money, and gone to public school. Some people choose to go to religious schools that aren't necessarily all that different except in having prayer and Bible study and stuff. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 17:17:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAANH86q003446 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:17:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B2A091E6015F; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:11:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8099B1E60160 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:11:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3D9A9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:04:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14374309 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:04:46 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAAN4kg18964 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:04:46 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.169.168]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110230441.JTNB1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:04:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB01989.FF32632@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:04:41 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: REALTOR.com Listing #598675 References: <20031110223600.55131.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > > I wish someone from Maine would come to Tulsa and > > instruct the > > city on how to properly remove snow from the > > streets. The city > > acts as if snow is something completely alien. > > Ho ho! The street departments in the State of Alabama > spiral into incoherent chaos! Do you actually try to remove snow from streets in Alabama? We don't. If it falls, it stays where it falls until it melts. It would be silly to invest in snow-removal equipment here since it would be so rarely needed. Trucks do dump salt on bridges at times -- trucks that have some other kind of purpose in life, I'm sure. And MSU puts salt on steps to buildings. I don't know who does that or how -- it apparently happens in the wee hours of the morning. None of this happens often since it's not needed often. Re snow, I think I mentioned before that we had what was mainly snow a few years ago -- as in not the usual ice. It was fascinating because it was much deeper than anything we usually get, but driving on it was totally simple. It was just fluffy stuff. No slipping and sliding. Normally the streets are sheets of ice, not piles of fluffy snow. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 17:23:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAANNW6q003483 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:23:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7A2741E6015F; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:18:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A6221E6015E for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:18:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001DB954@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:11:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14374797 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:11:07 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAANB7g20171 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:11:07 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3D9E9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:11:06 -0500 Message-Id: <200311102311.hAANB7g20171@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:11:07 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Poverty To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:15:50 EST, Theo Groothof wrote: >In a message dated 11/8/2003 10:36:46 AM, dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM writes: > >>3 ways to avoid growing up in poverty: >> Finish high school >> Don't have a baby out of wedlock >> Don't have a baby until after 20 >> >>I realize this has nothing to do with recent >>discussions here on poverty, but I thought >>it interesting. >> >It certainly makes sense; and is true too. >It doesn't mean that you become wealthy of course, but it may provide you >with a job that pays enough to keep you and your family from going hungry. >Theo OK, the obvious thing is that this advice can't apply logically to a child. To avoid growing up in poverty you'd need to have control over who your parents are and what circumstances they find themselves in. Snakebit! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 17:24:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAANO66q003489 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:24:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7E76C1E6015F; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:18:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 374011E6015E for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:18:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3D9ED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:11:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14374834 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:11:44 -0500 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAANBhg20272 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:11:44 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1f0.12fc0501 (4568) for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:11:23 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1f0.12fc0501.2ce1751b@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:11:23 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] REALTOR.com Listing #598675 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/10/2003 5:05:21 PM Central Standard Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << Normally the streets are sheets of ice >> That's what I hate; it's harder to walk to work on ice than it is through snow. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Two days until Bennie arrives! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 17:25:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAANP96q003516 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:25:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D4DF01E6015F; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:19:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 962B81E6015E for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:19:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3D9EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:12:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14374851 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:12:44 -0500 Received: from mr10.verisignmail.com (omrnat5.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAANCig20404 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:12:44 -0500 Received: from ms4.verisignmail.com (ms4.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.177] (may be forged)) by mr10.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id AHR96788; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:12:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by ms4.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id AUJ31830; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:12:37 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:10:09 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens Reply-To: mem@noxiousweeds.net Message-ID: <3FAF8E31.21173.E5436C@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20031110214912.76979.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> References: <3FAF65A0.22981.46CC57@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 10 Nov 2003 at 13:49, Lynne Weber wrote: > Yes, mem, but I'll wager many childless folks paid > school taxes which saw you through the public system. Indeed, I'm sure they paid the taxes, because they were required to. Whether they were necessary to my making it through the public school system remains to be demonstrated. mem From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 17:26:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAANQo6q003530 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:26:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B9E7F1E6015F; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:21:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7796B1E6015E for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:21:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3D9F5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:14:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14374920 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:14:28 -0500 Received: from imo-m01.mx.aol.com (imo-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.4]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAANESg20562 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:14:28 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.b7.38ccd059 (18707) for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:14:15 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:14:15 EST Subject: Re: REALTOR.com Listing #654145 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/10/2003 4:34:37 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >Or we can use it for storage of our xmas decorations >and stuff and hire a maintenance person to come get it down and do the >decorating. Our main communing will be on the first floor. > You want me living with a bunch of boxes full of Xmas stuff? You really think that all my things will fit into one room? I got news for you, I would not get rid of any of it, sorry! Plus, I DO smoke and I'm not willing to give it up either.... Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 17:30:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAANUU6q003577 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:30:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9460E1E60154; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:25:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52FDD1E60141 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:25:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001DB9E6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:18:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14375134 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:18:08 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAANI3g21062 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:18:04 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:17:58 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77746@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: REALTOR.com Listing #598675 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:17:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] >Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 6:05 PM >Lynne Weber wrote: >> >> --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: >> > I wish someone from Maine would come to Tulsa and >> > instruct the >> > city on how to properly remove snow from the >> > streets. The city >> > acts as if snow is something completely alien. >> >> Ho ho! The street departments in the State of Alabama >> spiral into incoherent chaos! > >Do you actually try to remove snow from streets in Alabama? We don't. >If it falls, it stays where it falls until it melts. It would be silly >to invest in snow-removal equipment here since it would be so rarely >needed. Trucks do dump salt on bridges at times -- trucks that have >some other kind of purpose in life, I'm sure. And MSU puts salt on >steps to buildings. I don't know who does that or how -- it apparently >happens in the wee hours of the morning. None of this happens often >since it's not needed often. > >Re snow, I think I mentioned before that we had what was mainly snow a >few years ago -- as in not the usual ice. It was fascinating >because it >was much deeper than anything we usually get, but driving on it was >totally simple. It was just fluffy stuff. No slipping and sliding. >Normally the streets are sheets of ice, not piles of fluffy snow. Four or five years ago, I was doing some contract work in Lexington, Ky. 17" of snow fell overnight. They had no plows, no anything. I was living in an extended-stay motel so a fair number of us knew each other. That morning, they were trying to figure out what started outside the front door of the building out into the parking lot...footprints...my footprints. (I had some stuff I needed out of the car - you'd have thought those were BigFoot's footprints with all of the attention they got - I guess they don't realize some people don't get completely dressed up to make a trip out to get something out of the car) I knew the city wouldn't have any equipment so I waited an hour or two for everyone who didn't have experience driving on snow to get out & get stuck so I could drive around them (I hate being in traffic with people who aren't qualified to be on that type of surface). Fortunately, I'd stocked up on food & whatnot because none of the stores were open - no one could get to work. I made it to the office, grabbed my PC, then headed back. I think the city was shut down for four or five days. It could have been worse. The next county NE had 23". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 17:32:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAANWD6q003587 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:32:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D8CC61E60141; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:27:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 919D11E600BF for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:27:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3DA00@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:19:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14375196 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:19:51 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAANJpg21246 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:19:51 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.169.168]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110231946.SZVK1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:19:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB01D12.7A028D91@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:19:46 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: REALTOR.com Listing #598675 References: <1f0.12fc0501.2ce1751b@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: > << > Normally the streets are sheets of ice > >> Normally if there's a winter , I mean. > That's what I hate; it's harder to walk to work on ice than it is > through snow. Oh yes. I won't tell again the stories I've told before of Yankees moving here and scoffing at our wimpy attitudes toward driving in snow -- until they experience their first Mississippi so-called snow, which is 99% ice lying glassily across the roads with just a sprinkling of white powder over it. Then they understand. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 17:33:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAANXp6q003610 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:33:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2A6AF1E6015F; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:28:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7E1E1E60154 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:28:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3DA16@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:21:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14375266 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:21:29 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAANLSg21419 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:21:28 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAANLKe6007727 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:21:26 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000f01c3a7e1$5a28a840$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031110104558.00a55190@uclink.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Flying by the Seat of His Pants Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:21:21 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > At 10:53 PM 11/9/2003 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: > >Just had a call from the lite kernel. > >He's home. Left there yesterday when > >he had a chance to ride to Germany on a > >MediVac plane. No planes going out from > >there, so he grabbed a cab for a one hour > >ride to another base, where a plane was > >just loading and he made it. Landed in > >So. Carolina, rented a car and drove home, > >completely surprising his family at 8:00 a.m. > >30 hour trip in all, still in his flight suit from > >working Friday. > > > >He's been gone this time over 4 months. > >His little girl turned 2 this week and he has > >been with her only a few months out of her life. > >Hope he's home long enough to get acquainted. > > > > - D. M. > > Wonderful! I hope he gets lots of much deserved time off. > > Betty Usually it's one week. I think that's pretty cruel considering that they have no time off from duty ever when they're over there and they're working them hard. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 17:35:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAANZq6q003661 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:35:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 43A541E60141; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:30:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E5E1E600BF for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:30:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3DA1D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:23:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14375338 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:23:30 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAANNTg21588 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:23:29 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.169.168]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110232324.TBKT1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:23:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB01DED.1AFC65A2@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:23:25 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: REALTOR.com Listing #654145 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > >Or we can use it for storage of our xmas decorations > >and stuff and hire a maintenance person to come get it down and do the > >decorating. Our main communing will be on the first floor. > > > You want me living with a bunch of boxes full of Xmas stuff? ?? It had been established that you would not live on the upper floors. So you wouldn't be staying with the boxes. > You really think that all my things will fit into one room? Nobody has said anything about how many rooms a Wordsler gets. > I got news for you, I would not get rid of any of it, sorry! > Plus, I DO smoke and I'm not willing to give it up either.... Nor has anybody said anything about smoking. You are leaping to wild conclusions. Probably the lodge would be sort of like your . You would spread your stuff about it (the downstairs) and sit and smoke while your admirers and proteges sit at your feet in awe listening to your words of wisdom. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 17:36:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAANac6q003669 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:36:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9C63F1E60141; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:31:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 619961E600BF for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:31:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001DB9FE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:24:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14375364 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:24:16 -0500 Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAANOGg21670 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:24:16 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.3a.40c61c66 (18403) for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:24:07 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <3a.40c61c66.2ce17817@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:24:07 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] REALTOR.com Listing #598675 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I guess I'm going to have to stock up on rock salt since they don't believe in using it here on the parking lots and sidewalks. I used to walk through blizzards in Akron; I can handle that, but ice scares me. I can't afford a broken ankle; when I broke my ankle in 1987, I had family to help out. Now I just have Mom. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Two days until Bennie arrives! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 17:39:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAANde6q003678 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:39:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4315A1E60141; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:34:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 024FE1E600BF for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:34:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001DBA11@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:27:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14375514 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:27:14 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAANREg22066 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:27:14 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001DBA18@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:27:14 -0500 Message-Id: <200311102327.hAANREg22066@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:27:14 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: REALTOR.com Listing #598675 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:24:07 EST, Evelyn Duncan wrote: >I can't afford a broken ankle; when I broke >my ankle in 1987, I had family to help out. Now I just have Mom. And a dog to walk. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 17:41:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAANfa6q003703 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:41:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E533A1E60141; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:36:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEB181E6015F for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:36:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3DA28@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:29:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14375600 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:29:14 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f59.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.59]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAANTEg22249 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:29:14 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:29:09 -0800 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 23:29:08 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Trent Lott Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:29:08 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2003 23:29:09.0006 (UTC) FILETIME=[70997AE0:01C3A7E2] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Very well put. >From: Theo Groothof >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Trent Lott >Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:44:12 EST > > >> 1. Saddam Hussein had something to do with 9/11. > >> 2. During the period leading up to the U.S. attack on iraq, Iraq >possessed > >> weapons of mass destruction. > >> 3. Iraq's weapons of mass destruction posed a threat to the U.S. > >> 4. The Bush administration's foreign policy has made the world safer > >for the > >> U.S. > >> 5. The liberation of Iraq will lead to the spread of democratic rule > >in the > >> Middle East. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Messenger with backgrounds, emoticons and more. http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/cdp_customize From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 17:42:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAANgj6q003718 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:42:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 031E31E60154; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:37:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C92C41E60141 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:37:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3DA38@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:30:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14375630 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:30:24 -0500 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAANUNg22362 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:30:23 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1e.1c1241d3 (18403) for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:30:10 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1e.1c1241d3.2ce17982@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:30:10 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] REALTOR.com Listing #598675 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/10/2003 5:27:56 PM Central Standard Time, karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: << On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:24:07 EST, Evelyn Duncan wrote: >I can't afford a broken ankle; when I broke >my ankle in 1987, I had family to help out. Now I just have Mom. And a dog to walk. >> Yeah. Siegi used to sit under my wheelchair so that I wouldn't go anywhere and get hurt further. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Two days until Bennie arrives! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 17:43:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAANhZ6q003722 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:43:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6B79C1E6015F; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:38:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CABD1E60154 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:38:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DBA06@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:31:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14375639 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:31:13 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAANVDg22415 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:31:13 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.169.168]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031110233108.TESE1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:31:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB01FBC.3E387E73@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:31:08 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: REALTOR.com Listing #598675 References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77746@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > Four or five years ago, I was doing some contract work in Lexington, Ky. > 17" of snow fell overnight. They had no plows, no anything. I was living in I find that surprising. Lexington is far enough north that snow is not that unusual there. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 17:44:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAANiw6q003739 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:44:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3FDC61E60141; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:39:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 128261E600BF for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:39:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3DA33@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:32:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14375714 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:32:29 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f59.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.59]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAANWSg22556 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:32:28 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:32:23 -0800 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 23:32:23 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: REALTOR.com Listing #654145 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:32:23 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2003 23:32:23.0318 (UTC) FILETIME=[E46B2360:01C3A7E2] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ooh, I can tell already that the Meeber Lodge will be utopian. =>From: Natalie Maynor >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: REALTOR.com Listing #654145 >Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:23:25 -0600 > >Theo Groothof wrote: > > > >Or we can use it for storage of our xmas decorations > > >and stuff and hire a maintenance person to come get it down and do the > > >decorating. Our main communing will be on the first floor. > > > > > You want me living with a bunch of boxes full of Xmas stuff? > >?? It had been established that you would not live on the upper >floors. So you wouldn't be staying with the boxes. > > > You really think that all my things will fit into one room? > >Nobody has said anything about how many rooms a Wordsler gets. > > > I got news for you, I would not get rid of any of it, sorry! > > Plus, I DO smoke and I'm not willing to give it up either.... > >Nor has anybody said anything about smoking. You are leaping to wild >conclusions. > >Probably the lodge would be sort of like your . You would spread >your stuff about it (the downstairs) and sit and smoke while your >admirers and proteges sit at your feet in awe listening to your words of >wisdom. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) _________________________________________________________________ MSN Shopping upgraded for the holidays! Snappier product search... http://shopping.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 17:57:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAANvC6q003890 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:57:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4613A1E60154; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:52:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 183C91E60141 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:52:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001DBA56@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:44:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14376212 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:44:50 -0500 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAANiog23808 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:44:50 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.4c.24a6b81b (18707) for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:44:38 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <4c.24a6b81b.2ce17ce5@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:44:37 EST Subject: Re: Trent Lott To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/10/2003 5:30:01 PM, meeberphobia@HOTMAIL.COM writes: >Very well put. > >>From: Theo Groothof >>Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >>To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>Subject: Re: Trent Lott >>Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:44:12 EST >> >> >> 1. Saddam Hussein had something to do with 9/11. >> >> 2. During the period leading up to the U.S. attack on iraq, Iraq >>possessed >> >> weapons of mass destruction. >> >> 3. Iraq's weapons of mass destruction posed a threat to the U.S. >> >> 4. The Bush administration's foreign policy has made the world safer >> >for the >> >> U.S. I hope you understand that I doubt all of the above.... Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 18:01:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB01G6q004003 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:01:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1DD4C1E60154; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:56:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D755B1E60141 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:56:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3DA8E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:48:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14376480 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:48:52 -0500 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAANmpg24631 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:48:51 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.7c.3e8fc155 (18707) for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:48:41 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <7c.3e8fc155.2ce17dd9@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:48:41 EST Subject: Re: REALTOR.com Listing #598675 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/10/2003 5:31:50 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >I find that surprising. Lexington is far enough north that snow is not >that unusual there. > Idaho is north-west and we had our first snow last Saturday! But today it's in the fifties again. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 18:27:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB0RZ6q004357 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:27:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 462A01E60157; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:22:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 102611E60123 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:22:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3DAF9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:15:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14377527 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:15:13 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB0FCg27583 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:15:12 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAB0F92K015358 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:15:10 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:15:51 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <738038322.20031110181551@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: why I read the Canadian news In-Reply-To: <200311101449.hAAEnjt13160@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200311101449.hAAEnjt13160@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, November 10, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:38:37 -0500, Paul Barfoot wrote: >>I was thinking the same thing. I think there should be lots and lots of > applications - including pets, including the long deceased, etc., etc. >> >>BrP >> > I was also considering it - but you of course would be uniquely qualified! How do you feel you could make a difference as a member of the SS Board? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 18:29:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB0TI6q004384 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:29:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AB39E1E60157; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:24:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C7721E60123 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:24:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001DBAD1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:16:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14377606 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:16:53 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB0Gqg27852 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:16:52 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hAB0GnSf007470 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:16:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:17:30 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <344082303.20031110181730@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Illegal Aliens In-Reply-To: References: <277846384.20031110065722@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, November 10, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >>Um, Supreme Court rulings have been known to be changed. My >>understanding is that in some school districts where there are more >>illegal aliens than citizens, there are rumblings about wanting to >>change this. > But it often takes 100 years or so. See Brown v. Board of Education. Whatever. We're not talking about immediate change--no need to pry what's-her-name's poem off the statue yet! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 18:31:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB0VH6q004413 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:31:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 49CAC1E6015F; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:26:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BEFF1E60123 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:26:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3DAFF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:18:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14377703 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:18:55 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB0Isg28185 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:18:54 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAB0Invi009769 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:18:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:19:30 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <657188467.20031110181930@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: mcedness In-Reply-To: References: <200311101602.hAAG2ut29320@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, November 10, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >>wouldn't mind if meeting were longer than an hour.) I find that if I just >>let my mind BE, it will go where it needs to. Sometimes you just really >>need to sit with your daily stuff/work etc. for a while. I personally do >>better if I sit with it rather than 'trying to empty my mind'. YMMV. > Why not try both? Because I cannot do two diametrically opposite things at the same time. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 18:33:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB0XA6q004434 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:33:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 305571E60157; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:27:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F32541E60123 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:27:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3DAF8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:20:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14377784 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:20:48 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB0Klg28406 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:20:47 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hAB0Kjsg026506 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:20:47 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:21:26 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <301383190.20031110182126@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <200311101657.hAAGvqV09510@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200311101657.hAAGvqV09510@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, November 10, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > I know any number of people who are working class or middle class who have > come to believe that income is related to moral fiber, intelligence, > goodness, etc. Or who relate joblessness to lack of moral fiber, intelligence, goodness, etc. > or who are obsessed because they fear to lose the safety > they believe money brings. I think this is a reasonable fear! > Some get up at night worrying about the future, in case they should lose > their job etc. What's wrong with that?:) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 18:35:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB0Zn6q004473 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:35:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7C0911E60157; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:30:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FB9D1E60123 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:30:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3DAFF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:23:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14377867 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:23:27 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB0NRg28689 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:23:27 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hAB0NQsg028869 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:23:26 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:24:07 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <487158827.20031110182407@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <200311101718.hAAHIKg14818@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200311101718.hAAHIKg14818@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, November 10, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > I think there's a difference between voluntary simplicity and voluntary > poverty. The former, I think, implies choosing a pleasant life for its > advantages. The latter, on the other hand, entails stepping out of the > nested resources of the not-poor, and taking the life that is meted out > to the unprotected. > I think of Kagawa, not Wendell Berry, when I talk about voluntary poverty. Cool; I'd never heard of him before. http://justus.anglican.org/resources/bio/143.html Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 18:36:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB0aS6q004484 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:36:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 05C541E60157; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:31:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC36B1E60123 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:31:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3DB1B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:24:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14377881 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:24:05 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB0O3g28734 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:24:04 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:23:52 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77748@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Flying by the Seat of His Pants Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:23:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Doris Markland [mailto:dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM] >Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 6:21 PM >> At 10:53 PM 11/9/2003 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: >> >Just had a call from the lite kernel. >> >He's home. Left there yesterday when >> >he had a chance to ride to Germany on a >> >MediVac plane. No planes going out from >> >there, so he grabbed a cab for a one hour >> >ride to another base, where a plane was >> >just loading and he made it. Landed in >> >So. Carolina, rented a car and drove home, >> >completely surprising his family at 8:00 a.m. >> >30 hour trip in all, still in his flight suit from >> >working Friday. >> > >> >He's been gone this time over 4 months. >> >His little girl turned 2 this week and he has >> >been with her only a few months out of her life. >> >Hope he's home long enough to get acquainted. >> > >> > - D. M. >> >> Wonderful! I hope he gets lots of much deserved time off. >> >> Betty > >Usually it's one week. I think that's >pretty cruel considering that they have no >time off from duty ever when they're over >there and they're working them hard. I think they get fifteen days at a time. If it's so cruel now, why wasn't it cruel during WW(I,II), Korean Conflict, Vietnam, etc.? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 18:42:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB0gb6q004507 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:42:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2DFAE1E60160; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:37:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFDF21E6015F for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:37:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001DBB0C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:30:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14378108 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:30:15 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB0UEg29458 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:30:15 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hAB0UDSf020558 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:30:14 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:30:54 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <78166645.20031110183054@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: mcedness In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031110144827.00a67530@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031110144827.00a67530@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, November 10, 2003, Betty Clark wrote: > At 05:00 PM 11/10/2003 -0500, Karen Kay wrote: >>On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:49:20 -0800, Betty Clark >> wrote: >>[about smoking] >> >It's not allowed in any building on our campus. You also have to be so >> >many feet away from a doorway. It stinks. >> >>Only if they aren't far enough away from the doorway. >> >>Karen > She asked why. And I made a joke. Lame, but a joke. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 18:43:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB0hL6q004513 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:43:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 747C41E60157; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:38:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46C4E1E60123 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:38:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3DB32@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:30:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14378129 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:30:58 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB0Uwg29563 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:30:58 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAB0Utvi020035 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:30:56 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:31:36 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1222653716.20031110183136@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Flying by the Seat of His Pants In-Reply-To: <000f01c3a7e1$5a28a840$e1cadece@0018079268> References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031110104558.00a55190@uclink.berkeley.edu> <000f01c3a7e1$5a28a840$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, November 10, 2003, Doris Markland wrote: >> At 10:53 PM 11/9/2003 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: >> >Just had a call from the lite kernel. >> >He's home. Left there yesterday when >> >he had a chance to ride to Germany on a >> >MediVac plane. No planes going out from >> >there, so he grabbed a cab for a one hour >> >ride to another base, where a plane was >> >just loading and he made it. Landed in >> >So. Carolina, rented a car and drove home, >> >completely surprising his family at 8:00 a.m. >> >30 hour trip in all, still in his flight suit from >> >working Friday. >> > >> >He's been gone this time over 4 months. >> >His little girl turned 2 this week and he has >> >been with her only a few months out of her life. >> >Hope he's home long enough to get acquainted. >> > >> > - D. M. >> >> Wonderful! I hope he gets lots of much deserved time off. >> >> Betty > Usually it's one week. I think that's > pretty cruel considering that they have no > time off from duty ever when they're over > there and they're working them hard. War is hell. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 18:46:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB0ku6q004547 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:46:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B696D1E60157; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:41:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86F6E1E60123 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:41:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3DB35@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:34:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14377897 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:34:33 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB0OXg28770 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:24:33 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAB0Nn3W013290 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:23:50 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:24:32 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <657188467.20031110181930@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <200311101602.hAAG2ut29320@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <657188467.20031110181930@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >> Why not try both? > >Because I cannot do two diametrically opposite things at the same >time. Let's see - there are 7 days in a week and 24 hours in a day - perhaps you can try two different things at two different times? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 18:47:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB0lW6q004553 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:47:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 61C9D1E60157; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:42:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DF3F1E60123 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:42:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3DB42@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:35:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14378291 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:35:10 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB0Z9g29988 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:35:09 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:35:03 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77749@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: REALTOR.com Listing #654145 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:35:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] >Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 6:23 PM >Theo Groothof wrote: > >> >Or we can use it for storage of our xmas decorations >> >and stuff and hire a maintenance person to come get it down >and do the >> >decorating. Our main communing will be on the first floor. >> > >> You want me living with a bunch of boxes full of Xmas stuff? > >?? It had been established that you would not live on the upper >floors. So you wouldn't be staying with the boxes. > >> You really think that all my things will fit into one room? > >Nobody has said anything about how many rooms a Wordsler gets. > >> I got news for you, I would not get rid of any of it, sorry! >> Plus, I DO smoke and I'm not willing to give it up either.... > >Nor has anybody said anything about smoking. You are leaping to wild >conclusions. > >Probably the lodge would be sort of like your . You >would spread >your stuff about it (the downstairs) and sit and smoke while your >admirers and proteges sit at your feet in awe listening to >your words of >wisdom. I'm surprised no one has mentioned the obvious joke: "Do you smoke after sex?" | "I don't know, I never looked." From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 18:48:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB0ma6q004558 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:48:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7F4F71E60157; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:43:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 511641E60123 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:43:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3DB2C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:36:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14378346 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:36:14 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB0aEg30085 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:36:14 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-49.gwi.net [216.195.151.49]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAB0aCGn045936 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:36:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031110193536.00bb1d58@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:36:36 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens In-Reply-To: <3FB0144F.8030400@bc.edu> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031110173305.00b35318@pop.gwi.net> <20031110220910.95344.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> <20031110220910.95344.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031110173305.00b35318@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Thank you, Bonnie. I believe that you and I are on the "same page". Or, as I recently read in a Brit novel, singing from the same hymnal. >:-) >It was a very good education, though. >Rita L. I agree. I had about 15 years of it. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 18:49:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB0nL6q004590 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:49:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0E4541E60157; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:44:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1E361E60123 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:44:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3DB2F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:36:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14378374 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:36:59 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB0awg30122 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:36:58 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:36:53 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7774A@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: REALTOR.com Listing #598675 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:36:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Theo Groothof [mailto:Dutchessg1@AOL.COM] >Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 6:49 PM >In a message dated 11/10/2003 5:31:50 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: > >>I find that surprising. Lexington is far enough north that >snow is not >>that unusual there. >> >Idaho is north-west and we had our first snow last Saturday! >But today it's in the fifties again. >Theo No snow here. We've had several hard freeezes but it's supposed to warm back up a little over the next few days. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 18:51:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB0pU6q004627 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:51:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D1CF41E60157; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:46:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4D551E60123 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:46:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DBB18@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:39:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14378519 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:39:07 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB0d7g30430 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:39:07 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAB0d62f031533 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:39:06 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAB0d5JC031512; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:39:05 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031110163430.00a4c190@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:35:30 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Flying by the Seat of His Pants In-Reply-To: <000f01c3a7e1$5a28a840$e1cadece@0018079268> References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031110104558.00a55190@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Wonderful! I hope he gets lots of much deserved time off. > > > > Betty > >Usually it's one week. I think that's >pretty cruel considering that they have no >time off from duty ever when they're over >there and they're working them hard. > > - D. M. I know he is going to enjoy every single minute. Hope it's longer. Will you get to see him, too? BB From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 18:51:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB0pc6q004631 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:51:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 936C91E60157; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:46:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 660A81E60123 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:46:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3DB4F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:39:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14378523 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:39:15 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB0dFg30443 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:39:15 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-49.gwi.net [216.195.151.49]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAB0dDAr041526 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:39:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031110193822.00bb19e8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:39:37 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: REALTOR.com Listing #598675 In-Reply-To: <3FB017C4.ECCC3A66@maynor.net> References: <4.2.2.20031109194054.00aa2ed0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031110083014.00b199b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031110172430.00b2adc8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >it would make much more sense to cancel it right now >than later. I'm going to push him on it again tomorrow. It would fun >to have spring off! -- Natalie Be aware that it is not Spring in Maine until May. By the way, if you move up here and then retire with me to Birch Bay Village, note that you can have a dog in the first floor apartments and I can have two cats in my first or second floor apartment. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 18:53:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB0rQ6q004651 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:53:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D9F451E6015D; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:48:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB93A1E60123 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:48:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3DB61@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:41:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14378574 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:41:03 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB0f3g30586 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:41:03 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.169.168]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031111004058.FEXZ20018.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:40:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB0301A.1037A271@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:40:58 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Flying by the Seat of His Pants References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77748@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > > >From: Doris Markland [mailto:dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM] > >Usually it's one week. I think that's > >pretty cruel considering that they have no > >time off from duty ever when they're over > >there and they're working them hard. > > I think they get fifteen days at a time. If it's so cruel now, why wasn't > it cruel during WW(I,II), Korean Conflict, Vietnam, etc.? ?? I see nothing in what Doris wrote to suggest that she thinks it wasn't cruel in other wars. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 18:56:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB0uH6q004672 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:56:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9CB251E60162; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:51:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ED191E60160 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:51:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3DB58@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:43:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14378618 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:43:54 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB0hsg30909 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:43:54 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hAB0hrsg015165 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:43:54 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:44:35 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <881361922.20031110184435@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: mcedness In-Reply-To: References: <200311101624.hAAGO7V01493@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, November 10, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >>I refuse to force myself to do something I don't believe you can do anyway. > What is the evidence that "you" can't do this? Anecodotal. I'm reading a book about the measurable effects of meditation--the principal subject was a Tibetan Buddhist monk with over 10,000 hours of meditation experience and when he talked about one kind of meditation, he described it as using a single point to come back to *when his attention wandered*. If he can't hold his attention, I suspect that most people can't truly do it. I know I can't. Basically, I have enough problems in my life without ruining the one thing I find pleasurable by setting standards I can't meet. I'll steal one of the pamphlets we hand out to first-timers, and type in the description of what to expect in meeting. It's very nicely worded. I really like the fact that Quakers don't care what you're doing in meeting as long as you're doing it in silence. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 18:57:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB0vp6q004685 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:57:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A21241E6015D; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:52:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7288A1E60123 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:52:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3DB4E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:45:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14378662 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:45:23 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB0jNg31123 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:45:23 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAB0jK2K009720 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:45:21 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:46:02 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <130232861.20031110184602@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: mcedness In-Reply-To: References: <200311101602.hAAG2ut29320@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <657188467.20031110181930@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, November 10, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >>> Why not try both? >> >>Because I cannot do two diametrically opposite things at the same >>time. > Let's see - there are 7 days in a week and 24 hours in a day - perhaps > you can try two different things at two different times? I've had a long life, Bethany. I tried the mind-emptying thang before and never succeeded. Now I don't worry about it and I'm happy. Why are you trying to spoil it for me? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 18:59:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB0x56q004710 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:59:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C4F2D1E6015D; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:53:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87C7F1E60123 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:53:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3DB53@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:46:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14378714 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:46:42 -0500 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB0kgg31217 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:46:42 -0500 Received: from EDuncan368@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.192.22577092 (18707) for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:46:30 -0500 (EST) From: EDuncan368@aol.com Message-ID: <192.22577092.2ce18b66@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:46:30 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Re the Episcopal Church To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/10/2003 1:25:40 PM Central Standard Time, Prbarfoo@SYR.EDU writes: << Hey, watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat! >> That trick never works! Evelyn Duncan EDuncan368@aol.com This account protected by an attack cabbit. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 19:01:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB1166q004742 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:01:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BA45C1E6015D; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:55:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 834CE1E60123 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:55:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3DB6E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:48:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14378824 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:48:43 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB0mhg31440 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:48:43 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.169.168]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031111004838.FHPM20018.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:48:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB031D2.C8B5BC47@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:48:18 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: REALTOR.com Listing #598675 References: <4.2.2.20031109194054.00aa2ed0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031110083014.00b199b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031110172430.00b2adc8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031110193822.00bb19e8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Be aware that it is not Spring in Maine until May. Oh yes. So-called spring semester includes winter also, even here. I think it would be exciting to visit Maine in winter. > By the way, if you move > up here and then retire with me to Birch Bay Village, note that you can > have a dog in the first floor apartments and I can have two cats in my > first or second floor apartment. Dog-walking might be difficult when I'm aged. But it's still a thought. Probably I won't move there, though, unless we change to the Canadian medical system. My medical insurance would be of very little help out of state. Then again, Medicare, if it still exists, would click in before then. That would help. It would lessen the amount of money my state insurance wouldn't cover. (My insurance pays something like 80% of some things -- after a $500 deductible -- if I'm in Mississippi. It drops to something like 50% out of state.) I could perhaps just drop the state insurance, though, and use AARP for the Medicare supplement. My parents had Medicare/AARP, and it paid almost everything. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 19:05:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB15X6q004768 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:05:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5C2001E60160; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:00:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CA2A1E60123 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:00:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3DBA1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:53:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14379158 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:53:11 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB0rBg31964 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:53:11 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAB0r8e6005802 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:53:09 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002101c3a7ee$2d028220$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77748@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Subject: Re: Re: Flying by the Seat of His Pants Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:53:08 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > >Usually it's one week. I think that's > >pretty cruel considering that they have no > >time off from duty ever when they're over > >there and they're working them hard. > > I think they get fifteen days at a time. If it's so cruel now, why wasn't > it cruel during WW(I,II), Korean Conflict, Vietnam, etc.? I don't know how much time off he will get, just know it has been one week off the two other times he got home since 9/11. It might have to do with the short-handedness of his unit. I didn't make any comment about the other wars, nor did I mean to make a comparison. Just commenting that the boys need some rest. In some wars, in some areas, the men had a little R&R, a trip into a town, a few beers, etc. now and then. My husband did not, however. He was in the Phillippines for 3 1/2 years with no R&R, no leave, etc. No wars are fun and only the mothers complain, I'm sure. My son has never said a negative word about his military life or any discomforts or restrictions. He just says, "Well, Mom, we look at it as a camping experience." I hope he's having a beer tonight. Our boys don't drink in the Middle East by regulation, out of respect for their culture. Btw the British do not observe this. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 19:12:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB1CN6q004832 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:12:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D954B1E6015D; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:07:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FA781E60123 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:07:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3DBC1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:00:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14378862 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:00:00 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB0o0g31537 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:50:00 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAB0nG3W019810 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:49:16 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:49:59 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <881361922.20031110184435@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <200311101624.hAAGO7V01493@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <881361922.20031110184435@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >come back to *when his attention wandered*. If he can't hold his >attention, I suspect that most people can't truly do it. I know I >can't. How much have you tried? It is an acquired ability. Also - without going into too much detail here - part of the reason it "works" as it does is that one cannot do it perfectly. Understanding that is an essential part of the process. It's like having a Rule of Life - like Benedict - mere mortals cannot follow a rule perfectly - and learning that is part of why one has a rule. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 19:13:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB1D26q004840 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:13:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 87A6B1E60160; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:07:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 481381E6015D for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:07:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3DBC5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:00:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14378887 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:00:39 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB0ocg31606 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:50:38 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAB0nt3W020000 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:49:55 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:50:38 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <130232861.20031110184602@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <200311101602.hAAG2ut29320@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <657188467.20031110181930@WordWrite.com> <130232861.20031110184602@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >I've had a long life, Bethany. I tried the mind-emptying thang before >and never succeeded. Now I don't worry about it and I'm happy. Why are >you trying to spoil it for me? Karen, you are capable of so much! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 19:21:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB1L36q004918 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:21:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7483C1E6015D; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:15:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19D321E60123 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:15:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3DBCF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:08:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14379812 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:08:39 -0500 Received: from fe2.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB18cg00945 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:08:39 -0500 Received: from [141.149.176.97] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO bc.edu) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.5) with ESMTP id 34525830 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:08:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB0368F.1010809@bc.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:08:31 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031110173305.00b35318@pop.gwi.net> <20031110220910.95344.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> <20031110220910.95344.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031110173305.00b35318@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031110193536.00bb1d58@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031110193536.00bb1d58@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Or, as I recently read in a Brit novel, singing from the same hymnal. > Trust me, we don't want me singing. But, speaking of pages and books, I have just started reading Blow Fly. I didn't realize how emotionally I was in Kay Scarpetta's life until I got into such a fury over the opening of chapter 15. What a shock!!! I'm off to read some more. Have a good night everybody. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 19:22:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB1MG6q004946 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:22:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 989361E60160; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:17:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 642561E60123 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:17:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3DBD3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:09:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14379855 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:09:53 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB19rg01032 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:09:53 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-49.gwi.net [216.195.151.49]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAB19oGp051190; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:09:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031110200845.00b58058@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:09:52 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: REALTOR.com Listing #598675 In-Reply-To: <3FB031D2.C8B5BC47@maynor.net> References: <4.2.2.20031109194054.00aa2ed0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031110083014.00b199b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031110172430.00b2adc8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031110193822.00bb19e8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:48 PM 11/10/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >bonniev wrote: > > > Be aware that it is not Spring in Maine until May. > >Oh yes. So-called spring semester includes winter also, even here. I >think it would be exciting to visit Maine in winter. Maine in winter can be beautiful, as can Maine be in May. Maine in April, however, is something else again... cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 19:29:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB1TL6q005011 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:29:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B25B71E60162; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:24:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 745E91E60160 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:24:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3DBEA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:16:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14380104 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:16:58 -0500 Received: from stork.mail.pas.earthlink.net (stork.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.188]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB1Gwg01599 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:16:58 -0500 Received: from sdn-ap-021txhousp0047.dialsprint.net ([65.177.16.47] helo=earthlink.net) by stork.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AJN9N-00048b-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:16:57 -0800 Message-ID: <410-22003112111178454@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: dormarbil@earthlink.net X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2003.2.92.0 (Windows) From: "Doris Smith" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:17:08 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-ELNK-Trace: 0f572b91323e03d8e9ef466adc09f07e7e972de0d01da94009b4d3e9d935394528e82731f13126b0350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just finished chapter 71. . . still reeling from chapter 15! Doris Smith dormarbil@earthlink.net Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. > > > Trust me, we don't want me singing. But, speaking of pages and books, I > have just started reading Blow Fly. I didn't realize how emotionally > I was in Kay Scarpetta's life until I got into such a fury > over the opening of chapter 15. What a shock!!! I'm off to read some > more. Have a good night everybody. > > Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 19:33:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB1X16q005053 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:33:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 01CC21E60162; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:27:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C73221E60160 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:27:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3DC26@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:20:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14380415 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:20:39 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f33.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.33]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB1Kcg02361 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:20:38 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:20:32 -0800 Received: from 167.21.224.153 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 01:20:32 GMT X-Originating-IP: [167.21.224.153] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Meldrum Bay Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 01:20:32 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Nov 2003 01:20:32.0859 (UTC) FILETIME=[007C82B0:01C3A7F2] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >And when is Rashmi going to announce Meldrum Bay as our fest >destination? Now. 2005 Words-l fest site is Meldrum Bay. _________________________________________________________________ Send a QuickGreet with MSN Messenger http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/cdp_games From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 19:37:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB1bE6q005130 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:37:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EF97D1E60162; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:32:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BADC11E60160 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:32:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3DC34@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:24:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14380572 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:24:52 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB1Opg02694 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:24:51 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAB1Op8b009091 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:24:51 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAB1OpfC012161 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:24:51 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:24:44 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Signing with infants Message-ID: <350299937.1068495884@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I think it's a great idea. I know quite a few parents who are doing this > with their kids. My grandson is learning some signs - please, thank you, > more. I haven't read any studies on it, but the theory is that kids > develop the concept of language and enough hand coordination before they > develop the muscle control for speech. > BrP At age 1, William picked up the more sign from Lillia who was learning in preschool. We encouraged him and when Ed was 1 taught him more, please and thank you. Although he does his own modified versions, it gets the point across. Even now when he can speak the words, he still sometimes signs them as well. The funniest was the please. He would rub his belly with both hands and if he *really* wanted something would also rub our bellies. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 19:39:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB1dx6q005183 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:39:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 411C71E60162; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:34:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D426B1E60160 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:34:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3DC2F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:27:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14380650 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:27:35 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB1RZg02916 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:27:35 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAB1RWe6021766 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:27:33 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <003201c3a7f2$fb1530a0$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031110104558.00a55190@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.1.5.2.20031110163430.00a4c190@uclink.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Flying by the Seat of His Pants Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:27:32 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Clark" To: Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 6:35 PM Subject: Re: Flying by the Seat of His Pants > > > Wonderful! I hope he gets lots of much deserved time off. > > > > > > Betty > > > >Usually it's one week. I think that's > >pretty cruel considering that they have no > >time off from duty ever when they're over > >there and they're working them hard. > > > > - D. M. > > I know he is going to enjoy every single minute. Hope it's longer. Will you > get to see him, too? > > BB Yes. We are flying down for Thanksgiving. He'll be back at work then but, we hope, still home. Orbitz has been my friend in the past few weeks. Got some good fares to Texas and Florida. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 19:44:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB1iq6q005301 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:44:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BBB0C1E60168; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:38:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AD951E60166 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:38:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3DC50@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:31:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14380871 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:31:08 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f19.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.19]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB1V8g03590 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:31:08 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:31:02 -0800 Received: from 167.21.224.153 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 01:31:02 GMT X-Originating-IP: [167.21.224.153] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Meet me in St. Louis Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 01:31:02 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Nov 2003 01:31:02.0592 (UTC) FILETIME=[77D62400:01C3A7F3] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita and Ana Chapman will host next year's (stateside) list event. I'm still holding out for Namibia. _________________________________________________________________ Concerned that messages may bounce because your Hotmail account is over limit? Get Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 19:45:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB1jR6q005332 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:45:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 87F461E60166; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:40:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 549391E60162 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:40:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3DC5A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:33:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14380994 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:33:04 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f6.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.6]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB1X4g03856 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:33:04 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:32:58 -0800 Received: from 167.21.224.153 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 01:32:58 GMT X-Originating-IP: [167.21.224.153] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Espanillegal Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 01:32:58 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Nov 2003 01:32:58.0664 (UTC) FILETIME=[BD055280:01C3A7F3] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: >Confusing is right. There seems to be no >quota, no restrictions, no requirements. >And this did not just start recently. Have we >not had laws enforced in prior years? Where >did it break down? Why do other countries >police their borders but ours have turned to >jelly? Is it the heat from the melting pot? You've left out one important component in the transaction - employers and businesses who hire illegals. Every time there's even talk of doing something an outcry ensues from poultry, agribusiness, hotels, restaurant, nursing homes, golf course, landscaping I could go on ... all these industries depend on an unlimited supply of cheap labor. The US is not the only country where this goes on. Cleaning staff in hotels in Western Europe are almost always Rumanian, Algerian, Indonesian ... depending on the country. Olive, orange, grape harvests in France, Spain, Portugal are all done by large numbers of North African and other illegals. Happens in the developing world too. Movement of labor has been going on for centuries. -rashmi _________________________________________________________________ Compare high-speed Internet plans, starting at $26.95. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 19:53:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB1r96q005424 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:53:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CB6D11E60168; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:47:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DAD51E60167 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:47:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3DC7F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:40:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14381335 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:40:46 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f8.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB1ekg04616 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:40:46 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:40:40 -0800 Received: from 167.21.224.153 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 01:40:40 GMT X-Originating-IP: [167.21.224.153] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: words post Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 01:40:40 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Nov 2003 01:40:40.0574 (UTC) FILETIME=[D05731E0:01C3A7F4] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Transfer tubes? Is it true that the Pentagon now calls body bags "transfer tubes"? Eww. _________________________________________________________________ Great deals on high-speed Internet access as low as $26.95. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 20:00:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB20M6q005535 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:00:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 338931E60167; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:55:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0503A1E60165 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:55:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3DC9C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:47:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14381632 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:47:58 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB1lwg05692 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:47:58 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hAB1lvSf003307 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:47:58 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:48:39 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1932648261.20031110194839@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: mcedness In-Reply-To: References: <200311101624.hAAGO7V01493@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <881361922.20031110184435@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, November 10, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >>come back to *when his attention wandered*. If he can't hold his >>attention, I suspect that most people can't truly do it. I know I >>can't. > How much have you tried? It is an acquired ability. Okay. > Also - without going into too much detail here - part of the reason > it "works" as it does is that one cannot do it perfectly. There are lots of different kinds of meditation. Actually, that was one of the more interesting things I learned from this book, that these things that I know have names. For me, one of the good things about meeting is that it is corporate prayer. Inherent in that is the idea that everyone participates perfectly--for them. > It's like having a Rule of Life - like Benedict - mere mortals > cannot follow a rule perfectly - and learning that is part of why > one has a rule. This statement makes me want to throw up. I'm so glad I'm not Catholic any more. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 20:01:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB21p6q005549 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:01:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5C3AD1E60168; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:56:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D5941E60167 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:56:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3DC85@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:49:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14381687 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:49:28 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB1nSg05876 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:49:28 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hAB1nRSf004827 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:49:27 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:50:08 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <343540188.20031110195008@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: mcedness In-Reply-To: References: <200311101602.hAAG2ut29320@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <657188467.20031110181930@WordWrite.com> <130232861.20031110184602@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, November 10, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >>I've had a long life, Bethany. I tried the mind-emptying thang before >>and never succeeded. Now I don't worry about it and I'm happy. Why are >>you trying to spoil it for me? > Karen, you are capable of so much! I am, you're right. But I can't do Kitchener stitch without a coach, and I can't empty my mind. The Kitchener stitch thing I think is worth working on. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 20:04:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB24c6q005583 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:04:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2E2681E60167; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:59:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE0341E60165 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:59:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3DC9E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:52:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14381796 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:52:15 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB1qEg06160 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:52:14 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hAB1qDSf007702 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:52:13 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:52:55 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <97221703.20031110195255@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Signing with infants In-Reply-To: <350299937.1068495884@TWild.uri.edu> References: <350299937.1068495884@TWild.uri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, November 10, 2003, Terry Wild wrote: > Even now when he can speak the words, he still sometimes signs > them as well. Paul does, too. > The funniest was the please. He would rub his belly with both hands and if > he *really* wanted something would also rub our bellies. I like this. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 20:06:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB2676q005634 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:06:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6B3E21E60168; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:00:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B3061E60165 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:00:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3DCA1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:53:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14381839 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:53:44 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB1rig06272 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:53:44 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAB1rf2K004811 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:53:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:54:22 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <709980666.20031110195422@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: words post In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, November 10, 2003, Rashmi Murthy wrote: > Transfer tubes? > Is it true that the Pentagon now calls body bags "transfer tubes"? > Eww. Oh, fuck. I hate that. 'soft target' is bad enough. YaY! More soft targets in transfer tubes. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 20:10:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB29m6q005693 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:09:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D21601E60169; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:04:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 973431E60167 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:04:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3DC99@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:57:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14381904 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:56:36 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB1uZg06523 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:56:35 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAB1uWe6028060 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:56:33 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000601c3a7f7$085bcae0$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: Espanillegal Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:56:32 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Doris Markland wrote: > > >Confusing is right. There seems to be no > >quota, no restrictions, no requirements. > >And this did not just start recently. Have we > >not had laws enforced in prior years? Where > >did it break down? Why do other countries > >police their borders but ours have turned to > >jelly? Is it the heat from the melting pot? rashmi: > You've left out one important component in the transaction - > employers and businesses who hire illegals. No, I didn't leave it out . . just didn't get to it . . but then, if we had strict laws and enforced them these employers could not override those laws. So someone is looking the other way. Right? Now we hear about Wal-Mart, but I think their numbers would be dwarfed by some of the other industries. I've told tales here before about how it's all handled in the packing houses . . a raid now and then and a few illegals transported . . in 2 weeks they are back and buy their green cards back from employees who held the cards for them. It is also a fallacy that immigrants fill only those jobs that Americans don't want to do. They are also taking some jobs that Americans do want to do. Until they are established, at least, most of them live in rental properties, yet they bring big families into our schools. The biggest adjustment in communities that have grown very rapidly because of this influx has to do with our taxes going up sharply as a result. We will adjust to it, but I do think we need to establish more distinct policies and enforce them, to be fair to both sides of a border. - D. M. > > -rashmi > > _________________________________________________________________ > Compare high-speed Internet plans, starting at $26.95. > https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 20:15:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB2F46q005743 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:15:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D67551E60168; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:09:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922291E60167 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:09:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3DCAA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:02:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14382103 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:02:41 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB22fg07289 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:02:41 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAB22e8b009764 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:02:40 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAB22efC017123 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:02:40 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:02:33 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: $25 per week Message-ID: <352569390.1068498153@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <20031109161155.20467.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031109161155.20467.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --On Sunday, November 09, 2003 8:11 AM -0800 Lynne Weber wrote: > Cloudy here, 58 degrees, airish. This is the second time this weekend I've heard this. The clerk at Benny's said her in-laws from the south would describe the weather (cool, cloudy, windy) as airish. Until no, I've never heard this. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 20:15:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB2Fj6q005759 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:15:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 019EA1E60168; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:10:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B14C01E60167 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:10:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001DBC82@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:03:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14382216 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:03:22 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB23Mg07563 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:03:22 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <20031111020312012007er1je>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 02:03:13 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031110175054.028e9f20@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:02:38 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: words post In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy writes, >Is it true that the Pentagon now calls body bags "transfer tubes"? It occurs in a couple current news articles, but it looks to me like the real term is "transfer case" -- but that's something more like a casket than a body bag. I think body bags are called "human remains pouches." http://www.sptimes.com/2003/01/31/news_pf/Worldandnation/Pentagon_stocks_up_on.shtml or http://tinyurl.com/uhaj Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 20:32:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB2Wq6q005943 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:32:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E51731E60169; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:27:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6A171E60161 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:27:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001DBCD6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:20:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14383236 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:20:28 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAB2KSg09875 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:20:28 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:20:22 PST Message-ID: <20031111022022.49961.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:20:22 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031110173305.00b35318@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: > Or "exclusive". There were five Catholic grade > schools in the town of > about 45,000 people where I grew up. The good nuns > were not "frilly" and > the education was not "exclusive". Did you attend one of these schools, and if so, why? Couldn't you have attended the public school within your school district rather than the parochial schools? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 20:40:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB2eE6q005971 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:40:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 92A5F1E6016E; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:34:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3A601E60161 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:34:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3DD47@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:27:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14383473 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:27:43 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB2Rgg10637 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:27:42 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAB2Rbvi026517 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:27:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:28:19 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1825247909.20031110202819@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Illegal Aliens In-Reply-To: <20031111022022.49961.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031111022022.49961.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, November 10, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > Did you attend one of these schools, and if so, why? I went to Catholic school because my parents wanted me to. > Couldn't you have attended the public school within > your school district rather than the parochial schools? *I* couldn't. You're acting like your average 1st grader controls their own destiny! I went where my parents told me to. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 20:41:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB2ff6q005976 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:41:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B2E4D1E60169; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:36:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A0CB1E60161 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:36:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001DBCF4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:29:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14383513 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:29:18 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB2THg10865 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:29:17 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-49.gwi.net [216.195.151.49]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAB2TFAr059164 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:29:15 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031110212910.00bb8db0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:29:39 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens In-Reply-To: <3FB0368F.1010809@bc.edu> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031110193536.00bb1d58@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031110173305.00b35318@pop.gwi.net> <20031110220910.95344.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> <20031110220910.95344.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031110173305.00b35318@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031110193536.00bb1d58@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >have just started reading Blow Fly. I didn't realize how emotionally > I was in Kay Scarpetta's life until I got into such a fury >over the opening of chapter 15. What a shock!!! I'm off to read some >more. Have a good night everybody. --Rita L. Yes, a shock indeed. Happy reading. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 20:45:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB2jE6q006014 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:45:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D96DC1E6016E; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:40:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 350711E60169 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:40:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3DD67@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:32:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14383668 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:32:50 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB2Wng11449 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:32:49 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-49.gwi.net [216.195.151.49]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAB2WlAr059810 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:32:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031110213131.00bbad40@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:33:11 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Espanillegal In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >agribusiness, hotels, restaurant, nursing homes, golf course, >landscaping I could go on ... all these industries depend on an >unlimited supply of cheap labor. >-rashmi The hotels and restaurants of Bar Harbor are staffed by foreigners. But, to my knowledge, they are not illegals. Many of them are from Jamaica and are here quite legally. Others are from eastern Europe and also here legally. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 20:50:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB2o26q006053 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:50:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5910D1E6016E; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:44:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D11101E60169 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:44:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3DD79@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:37:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14383853 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:37:38 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB2bbg12088 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:37:38 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-49.gwi.net [216.195.151.49]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAB2baGn063216 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:37:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031110213553.00bbcf10@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:38:00 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens In-Reply-To: <20031111022022.49961.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031110173305.00b35318@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Did you attend one of these schools, and if so, why? >Couldn't you have attended the public school within >your school district rather than the parochial schools? Yes, I went to Catholic grade school. Why? Why?! Because I was Catholic. I imagine I could have gone to the public school. Why would I have wanted to? In eighth grade we did all walk over to the nearest public school for one afternoon a week so the boys could take shop and the girls could take sewing and cooking. It was the 1950s. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 20:50:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB2oS6q006056 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:50:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 930211E6016E; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:45:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC0A81E60169 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:45:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3DD71@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:38:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14383892 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:38:04 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAB2c3g12187 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:38:04 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:37:58 PST Message-ID: <20031111023758.54830.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:37:58 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FB0185A.A6B95AC8@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Some people choose to go to religious schools that > aren't necessarily > all that different except in having prayer and Bible > study and stuff. And that's fine, that's a matter of individual choice, usually by the family, and not necessarily the student. I thought mem's point was that he did not like paying taxes to support schools that would not be attended by him or his family. I merely say that someone paid taxes to see that he was educated, and his parents before him, etc. Whether he or anyone else went to private or parochial school is immaterial. There is a public education system that must be supported and it cannot be supported by fund-raising efforts or the largess of philanthropists. We may as well all submit our tax payments with a schedule of projects on which those funds are to be spent, along with a list of projects from which the funds will be withheld. Seems to me this system has been tried, and found wanting. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 20:51:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB2pZ6q006071 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:51:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ABDD31E6016E; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:46:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 165B21E60169 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:46:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001DBD28@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:39:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14383951 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:39:12 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB2dBg12272 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:39:11 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3DD85@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:39:11 -0500 Message-Id: <200311110239.hAB2dBg12272@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:39:11 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: why I read the Canadian news To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:15:51 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Monday, November 10, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:38:37 -0500, Paul Barfoot wrote: >>>I was thinking the same thing. I think there should be lots and lots of >> applications - including pets, including the long deceased, etc., etc. >>> >>>BrP >>> > >> I was also considering it - but you of course would be uniquely qualified! > >How do you feel you could make a difference as a member of the SS >Board? > >Karen No no, you misunderstand - I meant I was considering what kind of applicants and how many they should have to wade through without success. As for how I could make a difference as a member of the SS, I can't imagine that I would be selected to sit on the board, since I would not be willing to send someone against their will to be taught to kill. I'd certainly call every draftee a conscientious objectee, since I would object! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 20:53:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB2rV6q006099 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:53:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1D0F51E6016F; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:48:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7889A1E6016E for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:48:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DBD0C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:41:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14384047 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:41:07 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB2f6g12559 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:41:06 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-49.gwi.net [216.195.151.49]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAB2f4Gn063632 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:41:05 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031110213823.00bcc4e0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:41:29 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Espanillegal In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031110213131.00bbad40@pop.gwi.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >The hotels and restaurants of Bar Harbor are staffed by foreigners. But, >to my knowledge, they are not illegals. Many of them are from Jamaica and >are here quite legally. Others are from eastern Europe and also here legally. And, by the way, they don't send their kids to school here. They only live here from May through October. The Jamaican women that I am familiar with leave their kids home in Jamaica with Grandma, where they join them for the winter. Last Thursday night, where we were out to dinner, there was a party going on to say goodbye to Norm who was returning to Jamaica. He baked very yummy things for The Internet Cafe, Havana's, and McKay's. He did a number of other jobs, including house painting, on the side. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 20:53:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB2rp6q006104 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:53:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2682B1E60169; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:48:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 902541E6016E for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:48:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3DD91@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:41:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14384063 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:41:27 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB2fRg12590 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:41:27 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001DBD31@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:41:27 -0500 Message-Id: <200311110241.hAB2fRg12590@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:41:27 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: octopuses get erections To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:21:26 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Monday, November 10, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> I know any number of people who are working class or middle class who have >> come to believe that income is related to moral fiber, intelligence, >> goodness, etc. > >Or who relate joblessness to lack of moral fiber, intelligence, >goodness, etc. > >> or who are obsessed because they fear to lose the safety >> they believe money brings. > >I think this is a reasonable fear! > >> Some get up at night worrying about the future, in case they should lose >> their job etc. > >What's wrong with that?:) > >Karen Wrong? I was trying to balance the claim that very poor and very wealthy people have a special tendency to worry about money. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 20:55:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB2t16q006116 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:55:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 85AD01E60170; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:49:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B90791E6016F for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:49:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3DD97@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:42:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14384127 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:42:37 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB2gbg12782 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:42:37 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DBD13@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:42:37 -0500 Message-Id: <200311110242.hAB2gbg12782@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:42:37 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: octopuses get erections To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:24:07 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Monday, November 10, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> I think there's a difference between voluntary simplicity and voluntary >> poverty. The former, I think, implies choosing a pleasant life for its >> advantages. The latter, on the other hand, entails stepping out of the >> nested resources of the not-poor, and taking the life that is meted out >> to the unprotected. > >> I think of Kagawa, not Wendell Berry, when I talk about voluntary poverty. > >Cool; I'd never heard of him before. >http://justus.anglican.org/resources/bio/143.html > >Karen My father read Kagawa as well as Screwtape Letters and Tom Sawyer Abroad to us as children. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 20:56:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB2uL6q006153 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:56:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A5DB51E6016F; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:51:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DB2E1E60169 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:51:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3DD8D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:43:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14384168 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:43:58 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAB2hvg13005 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:43:57 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:43:52 PST Message-ID: <20031111024352.96240.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:43:52 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: REALTOR.com Listing #598675 To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FB01989.FF32632@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Lynne Weber wrote: > > Do you actually try to remove snow from streets in > Alabama? We don't. In some areas, it's necessary to do something to clear avenues for emergency vehicles. And yes, much of it is done at night, in our case, the street department uses equipment that can double on other jobs. The local Rescue Squads and EMA agencies usually assist. And they no longer use salt, because of its corrosive properties. Sand and pea gravel are used. The safest thing is to tell everyone to stay home unless their emergency services are required. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 20:59:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB2xO6q006171 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:59:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 832A31E6016E; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:54:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB11D1E60169 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:54:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3DDA0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:47:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14384255 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:47:00 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAB2kxg13468 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:47:00 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:46:53 PST Message-ID: <20031111024653.27060.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:46:53 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FAF8E31.21173.E5436C@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Michael E. Macmillan" > Indeed, I'm sure they paid the taxes, because they > were required > to. Whether they were necessary to my making it > through the public > school system remains to be demonstrated. The public school system was required. Your progress through it is another kettle. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 21:03:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB33P6q006197 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:03:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 581A61E6016E; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:58:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A06781E60169 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:58:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3DDA6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:51:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14384350 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:51:01 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAB2oZg14035 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:50:35 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:50:29 PST Message-ID: <20031111025029.58380.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:50:29 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: REALTOR.com Listing #654145 To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Theo Groothof wrote: > You want me living with a bunch of boxes full of > Xmas stuff? > You really think that all my things will fit into > one room? > I got news for you, I would not get rid of any of > it, sorry! > Plus, I DO smoke and I'm not willing to give it up > either.... Thus, Theo, by your own volition, you have removed yourself from membership at the Hodge Podge Lodge. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 21:08:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB3856q006313 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:08:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E6ACB1E60170; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:01:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A07531E60169 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:01:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3DD95@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:54:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14384444 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:54:06 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAB2s0g14449 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:54:00 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:53:54 PST Message-ID: <20031111025354.10566.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:53:54 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: REALTOR.com Listing #654145 To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FB01DED.1AFC65A2@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Probably the lodge would be sort of like your > . You would spread > your stuff about it (the downstairs) and sit and > smoke while your > admirers and proteges sit at your feet in awe > listening to your words of > wisdom. Rather like Queen Marie of Roumania. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 21:08:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB3856q006314 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:08:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 36ED31E60174; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:01:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE2811E60169 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:01:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DBD34@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:54:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14384448 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:54:06 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB2s6g14466 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:54:06 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:54:00 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7774C@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: REALTOR.com Listing #598675 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:53:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Lynne Weber [mailto:lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] >Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 9:44 PM >--- Natalie Maynor wrote: >> Lynne Weber wrote: >> >> Do you actually try to remove snow from streets in >> Alabama? We don't. > > >In some areas, it's necessary to do something to clear >avenues for emergency vehicles. And yes, much of it >is done at night, in our case, the street department >uses equipment that can double on other jobs. The >local Rescue Squads and EMA agencies usually assist. > >And they no longer use salt, because of its corrosive >properties. Sand and pea gravel are used. > >The safest thing is to tell everyone to stay home >unless their emergency services are required. Unfortunately, many people don't listen to "safely" when it involves staying home. Most of the time I've been throughout the Midwest under such circumstances, it's been "Stay at home. If you are caught on the road and are not designated as emergency personnel or absolutely to the function of your employer, you *will* be ticketed and potentially have your vehicle towed. During the blizzards of '77 and '78, we were shuttled from emergency to emergency by snowmobile. Triage consisted of "unless they are going to die because they need to be at the hospital", diagnose them, stabilize them, and move on to the next emergency. Personally, I don't think cold weather & blizzards are that big a deal. I'm waiting for the big quakes. We're just on the edge of the New Madrid fault here. The last time it maxed out, the Mississippi reversed direction for two days. The land rippled in swells like water in four to five foot waves. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 21:08:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB3866q006318 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:08:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 464731E60183; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:02:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94ABB1E60178 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:02:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DBD36@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:55:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14384476 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:55:04 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB2t3g14562 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:55:03 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.169.168]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031111025458.WPHU1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:54:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB04F82.7436245F@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:54:58 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Meldrum Bay References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: > 2005 Words-l fest site is Meldrum Bay. Good work, Rashmi! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 21:08:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB38d6q006344 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:08:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E1CD21E60170; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:03:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A43041E6016B for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:03:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001DBD5B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:56:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14384483 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:55:21 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAB2tLg14575 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:55:21 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:55:15 PST Message-ID: <20031111025515.77160.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:55:15 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Trent Lott To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Marty Rosen wrote: > Very well put. Yes. Succinct. > > > >From: Theo Groothof > >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group > > >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Subject: Re: Trent Lott > >Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:44:12 EST > > > > >> 1. Saddam Hussein had something to do with > 9/11. > > >> 2. During the period leading up to the U.S. > attack on iraq, Iraq > >possessed > > >> weapons of mass destruction. > > >> 3. Iraq's weapons of mass destruction posed a > threat to the U.S. > > >> 4. The Bush administration's foreign policy has > made the world safer > > >for the > > >> U.S. > > >> 5. The liberation of Iraq will lead to the > spread of democratic rule > > >in the > > >> Middle East. > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Messenger with backgrounds, emoticons and more. > http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/cdp_customize __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 21:08:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB38d6q006347 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:08:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3AD991E60170; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:03:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00B311E6016B for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:03:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DBD39@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:56:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14384503 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:56:14 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB2uCg14625 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:56:13 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.169.168]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031111025607.WPTH1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:56:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB04FC8.A1882C3D@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:56:08 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Meet me in St. Louis References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: > > Rita and Ana Chapman will host next year's (stateside) list event. > > I'm still holding out for Namibia. YaY! I trust Namibia and St. Louis aren't going to be an either-or situation -- like not at the same time. Some of us will no doubt want to do both. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 21:11:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB3BU6q006371 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:11:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C4BB71E60174; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:06:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 752F61E6016B for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:06:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3DDBA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:59:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14384671 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:59:06 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB2x6g14888 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:59:06 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.169.168]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031111025859.WQWT1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:58:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB05074.C90C833F@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:59:00 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: words post References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: > Is it true that the Pentagon now calls body bags "transfer tubes"? That's what I've read. In fact, I think that was mentioned in something I recently blogged. Will look right now. ... Found it: ******* The term "body bags" was dispensed with during the 1991 Gulf War for the kinder, gentler euphemism "human remains pouches." The term has been changed again by the Pentagon. Today in Iraq, soldiers killed in the line of duty are placed inside "transfer tubes" for their anonymous, unnoticed trip home. ******* from: http://truthout.org/docs_03/111003A.shtml -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 21:12:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB3C26q006377 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:12:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 63E541E60170; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:06:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC661E6016B for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:06:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001DBD71@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:59:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14384730 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:59:36 -0500 Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com (imo-r06.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.102]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB2xag14971 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:59:36 -0500 Received: from EDuncan368@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.11b.2a6c5d33 (16930) for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:59:22 -0500 (EST) From: EDuncan368@aol.com Message-ID: <11b.2a6c5d33.2ce1aa8a@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:59:22 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] REALTOR.com Listing #598675 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/10/2003 8:54:23 PM Central Standard Time, PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM writes: << Unfortunately, many people don't listen to "safely" when it involves staying home. >> A lot of people can't; their bosses tell them that they have to come in. If Sandra had still been store manager when we had the Christmas Eve blizzard last year, she would have given points to those of us who couldn't come in. Marc, God bless him, was much more reasonable. Evelyn Duncan EDuncan368@aol.com This account protected by an attack cabbit. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 21:17:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB3Hm6q006415 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:17:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EBB641E60170; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:12:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA5991E6016B for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:12:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3DDEE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:05:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14385028 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:05:21 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB35Lg15641 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:05:21 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.169.168]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031111030515.WTYW1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:05:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB051E2.EA2191CF@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:05:06 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Espanillegal References: <000601c3a7f7$085bcae0$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > You've left out one important component in the transaction - > > employers and businesses who hire illegals. > > No, I didn't leave it out . . just didn't get to it . . but then, > if we had strict laws and enforced them these employers > could not override those laws. So someone is looking > the other way. Right? Yes. That's what I was talking about earlier -- about the alleged reasons for looking the other way -- that our economy might crash otherwise. That's what makes it a complicated situation. > Until they are established, at least, most of them live > in rental properties, yet they bring big families into > our schools. I don't get the connection between renting and schooling. But what you say here is evidence of what I was talking about earlier -- about why, contrary to Amy's opinion, the question of school is indeed relevant to this topic -- the question is being raised. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 21:21:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB3LS6q006453 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:21:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9AD381E60170; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:16:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E5D81E6016B for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:16:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001DBD9D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:09:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14385186 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:09:04 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB394g16081 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:09:04 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hAB392sg001450 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:09:03 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:09:44 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1292952788.20031110210944@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: why I read the Canadian news In-Reply-To: <200311110239.hAB2dBg12272@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200311110239.hAB2dBg12272@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, November 10, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:15:51 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >>On Monday, November 10, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>> On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:38:37 -0500, Paul Barfoot wrote: >>>>I was thinking the same thing. I think there should be lots and lots of >>> applications - including pets, including the long deceased, etc., etc. >>>> >>>>BrP >>>> >> >>> I was also considering it - but you of course would be uniquely qualified! >> >>How do you feel you could make a difference as a member of the SS >>Board? >> >>Karen > No no, you misunderstand - I meant I was considering what kind of applicants > and how many they should have to wade through without success. Ah, okay. > As for how I could make a difference as a member of the SS, I can't imagine > that I would be selected to sit on the board, since I would not be willing > to send someone against their will to be taught to kill. I'd certainly call > every draftee a conscientious objectee, since I would object! Well, right. That's why I was confused. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 21:21:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB3Ls6q006465 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:21:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D9F091E60170; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:16:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A8711E6016B for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:16:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3DDE8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:09:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14385210 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:09:27 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB39Rg16131 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:09:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.169.168]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031111030922.WVPZ1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:09:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB052E2.56C34F2D@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:09:22 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens References: <20031111023758.54830.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Some people choose to go to religious schools that > > aren't necessarily > > all that different except in having prayer and Bible > > study and stuff. > > And that's fine, that's a matter of individual choice, > usually by the family, and not necessarily the > student. My wording was bad. The "some people" I was referring to are parents -- they choose for their children to go to religious schools, not for themselves to. I guess maybe older children are sometimes given a choice about which they'd prefer, but I doubt that many first graders have major roles in the decision-making. > There is a public education system that > must be supported and it cannot be supported by > fund-raising efforts or the largess of > philanthropists. > > We may as well all submit our tax payments with a > schedule of projects on which those funds are to be > spent, along with a list of projects from which the > funds will be withheld. Seems to me this system has > been tried, and found wanting. I agree. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 21:23:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB3NM6q006480 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:23:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1E6DB1E6016C; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:18:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D46581E60008 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:18:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3DDF0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:10:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14385289 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:10:58 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB3Awg16349 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:10:58 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hAB3Apsg003020 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:10:58 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:11:32 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1014725336.20031110211132@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <200311110242.hAB2gbg12782@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200311110242.hAB2gbg12782@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, November 10, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > My father read Kagawa as well as Screwtape Letters and Tom Sawyer Abroad to > us as children. This explains so much.:) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 21:25:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB3PK6q006497 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:25:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 770F21E6016C; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:20:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39DCD1E60008 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:20:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3DE09@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:12:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14385384 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:12:57 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB3Cvg16628 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:12:57 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.169.168]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031111031248.WXCB1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:12:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB053B1.32CA1CEA@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:12:49 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: REALTOR.com Listing #598675 References: <20031111024352.96240.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > And they no longer use salt, because of its corrosive > properties. Sand and pea gravel are used. That's probably true here also. I don't think I've seen that white stuff on bridges in a long time. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 21:26:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB3QZ6q006504 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:26:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0A20B1E60170; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:21:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF7921E6016C for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:21:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3DE17@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:14:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14385408 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:14:11 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB3EBg16766 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:14:11 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAB3E4e6023254 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:14:05 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001201c3a801$dcfb5b80$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000601c3a7f7$085bcae0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB051E2.EA2191CF@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Espanillegal Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:14:04 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I don't get the connection between renting and schooling. But what you > say here is evidence of what I was talking about earlier -- about why, > contrary to Amy's opinion, the question of school is indeed relevant to > this topic -- the question is being raised. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > Just that taxes support the schools and homeowners and property owners pay the bulk of the real estate tax. Renters would pay indirectly if their rent went up, but rents don't rise much if at all here, while property taxes are skyrocketing. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 21:29:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB3TL6q006572 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:29:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0A1B71E60174; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:24:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF3111E60170 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:24:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3DE22@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:16:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14385504 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:16:57 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB3Gvg17078 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:16:57 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:16:52 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7774D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: REALTOR.com Listing #598675 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:16:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Evelyn Duncan [mailto:EDuncan368@AOL.COM] >Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 9:59 PM >In a message dated 11/10/2003 8:54:23 PM Central Standard Time, >PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM writes: ><< >Unfortunately, many people don't listen to "safely" when it >involves staying >home. >>> > >A lot of people can't; their bosses tell them that they have to come >in. If Sandra had still been store manager when we had the >Christmas Eve blizzard last year, she would have given points to >those of us who couldn't come in. Marc, God bless him, was much >more reasonable. You clipped my words incorrectly. I *did* state if they are considered vital by their employer as a legitimate excuse for being on the road. As far as their bosses telling them to come in, a boss may be responsible for posting bond, paying for the ticket, paying for the tow service, and any number of other things which might happen. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 21:34:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB3Y46q006610 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:34:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 523431E60178; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:28:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16EF11E60177 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:28:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3DE19@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:21:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14385689 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:21:40 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB3Leg17645 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:21:40 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.169.168]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031111032134.XARW1849.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:21:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB055BE.404790C8@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:21:34 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Espanillegal References: <000601c3a7f7$085bcae0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB051E2.EA2191CF@maynor.net> <001201c3a801$dcfb5b80$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > Just that taxes support the schools and > homeowners and property owners pay > the bulk of the real estate tax. Renters > would pay indirectly if their rent went up, > but rents don't rise much if at all here, > while property taxes are skyrocketing. If the landlords are willing to pay the taxes for these tenants, I guess that's fine. But it is certainly not what I would consider normal. Rents here take taxes into consideration. Although it is the landlord who directly pays the taxes, she is getting that money from the renter. I have never thought of renters as not paying their fair share in property taxes. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 21:34:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB3YM6q006616 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:34:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A65E21E60177; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:29:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60B7E1E60170 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:29:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3DE28@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:21:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14385705 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:21:58 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAB3Lwg17686 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:21:58 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:21:45 PST Message-ID: <20031111032145.66523.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:21:45 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1825247909.20031110202819@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > *I* couldn't. You're acting like your average 1st > grader controls > their own destiny! I went where my parents told me > to. I know you did. We all did. Keep your hair shirt on. The issue under discussion (I thought) is whether or not public education in the US should be supported by universal taxation. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 21:42:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB3gV6q006725 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:42:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 468891E6017E; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:37:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E56D1E6017B for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:37:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3DE72@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:30:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14386223 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:30:06 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAB3U5g18777 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:30:05 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:30:00 PST Message-ID: <20031111033000.51051.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:30:00 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FAF7EEB.74E04E1E@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > I'd almost forgotten that this was my assignment. > Ok. Joe and Inez are > a Mexican couple in their early thirties. They are > finding it > impossible to make ends meet at home and to feed > their five-year-old > daughter, Isabel. So the three of them manage to > sneak across the > border to the U.S. Sam, owner of a chicken factory, > is delighted to > hire both Joe and Inez at $1.50 an hour each. Joe > becomes a > chicken-plucker, and Inez mops chicken guts from the > floor of a > different area of the plant. They are delighted > since their combined > income is $3 an hour, high on the hog compared to > their earlier > desperate situation. They rent a tiny hovel, where > Inez stays alone > since at the age of five she has acquired a good bit > of survival sense. > The next fall Inez reaches school age. But her > parents aren't citizens, > don't pay taxes, are officially non-existent. Can > she go to public > school? Just as they're trying to figure out what > to do about that, Joe > keels over one day with an attack of some > undetermined kind, possibly > one resulting from ingesting a chicken feather. > Even though they're > doing ok with their $3 an hour, especially since > they work very long > hours, they haven't enough money for medical care, > and of course they > have no insurance since they're illegal. What > happens? Does Joe lie on > the floor and die with the chickens? Sam, being in > many ways a moral > man, worries about breaking the law by hiring > illegal aliens. He thinks > about trying to help them become legal. But he > realizes that if he pays > Joe and Inez and his fifty other illegal employees > minimum wage that his > business will go under. Then Joe and Inez will no > longer have a job. > Nor will he or any of his other employees. Since > they're now all legal, > though, they would presumably have unemployment > insurance. So that > might make it ok. Or would it? And if all the > chicken factories go > under, will the U.S. population have to give up > chicken, or could it be > imported from other countries? Would it matter? > > That's a very general sketch. More questions could > be asked and more > details provided. You've done such a good job on your assignment, I'm tempted to make an outline to remind myself of discussion points. I'm working on it, but you'll be leaving us for dreamland before long. I'll see how much damage I can do for tomorrow. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 21:44:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB3hx6q006743 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:43:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 11F471E60178; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:38:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF0FF1E60177 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:38:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3DE73@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:31:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14386251 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:31:35 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB3VZg18863 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:31:35 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAB3VIvi022716 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:31:33 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:31:58 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <789932423.20031110213158@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Illegal Aliens In-Reply-To: <20031111032145.66523.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031111032145.66523.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, November 10, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Karen Kay wrote: >> *I* couldn't. You're acting like your average 1st >> grader controls >> their own destiny! I went where my parents told me >> to. > I know you did. We all did. Keep your hair shirt on. No hair shirts for me, sorry. > The issue under discussion (I thought) is whether or > not public education in the US should be supported by > universal taxation. Really? Well, I'm not going to discuss that, so I guess I'll be quiet now. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 21:44:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB3iu6q006781 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:44:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 824C01E60178; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:39:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B7A61E60177 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:39:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3DE5A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:32:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14386274 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:32:32 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB3WWg18937 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:32:32 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DBE1C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:32:31 -0500 Message-Id: <200311110332.hAB3WWg18937@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:32:32 -0500 From: Neal Traven Subject: "Most Americans have been to Europe" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Uh huh ... (see http://www.linkmeister.com/blog/archives/000646.html#000646). neal From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 21:45:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB3jR6q006790 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:45:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 674971E60178; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:40:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C1C91E60177 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:40:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3DE69@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:33:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14386282 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:33:04 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB3X3g18981 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:33:03 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id F3E3B2B57C; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:33:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E96562B559 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:33:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:33:02 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: <200311110241.hAB2fRg12590@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Wrong? I was trying to balance the claim that very poor and very wealthy > people have a special tendency to worry about money. > clo I once read something like this: a study claimed to show that old ladies and adolescent boys think more about money than any other group identified by the study. They had some % figures - I don't remember what % of thinking time old ladies and teen-aged boys devote to money. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 21:47:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB3li6q006802 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:47:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 907811E60178; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:42:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E5BC1E60177 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:42:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3DE7C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:35:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14386337 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:35:11 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAB3ZAg19115 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:35:10 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:35:05 PST Message-ID: <20031111033505.57189.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:35:05 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Espanillegal To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FB055BE.404790C8@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > I have never thought of renters as not paying their > fair share in > property taxes. But that's one of the reasons many people rent - that and not having to maintain the property themselves. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 21:59:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB3xf6q006910 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:59:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5E1291E6017B; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:54:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B63C1E60178 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:54:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3DE9A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:47:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14386845 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:47:17 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB3lHg20313 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:47:17 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hAB3lFsg010217 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:47:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:47:57 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <52740233.20031110214757@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: octopuses get erections In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, November 10, 2003, Ann Borkin wrote: >> Wrong? I was trying to balance the claim that very poor and very wealthy >> people have a special tendency to worry about money. >> clo > I once read something like this: a study claimed to show that old ladies > and adolescent boys think more about money than any other group identified > by the study. > They had some % figures - I don't remember what % of thinking time old > ladies and teen-aged boys devote to money. You sure you're not confusing money and sex?!:) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 22:02:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB42G6q006924 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:02:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1B10E1E6017E; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:57:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC5BB1E6017B for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:57:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3DECA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:49:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14387019 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:49:53 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB3nqg20590 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:49:52 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hAB3npsg013486 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:49:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:50:33 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <409017714.20031110215033@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Espanillegal In-Reply-To: <20031111033505.57189.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031111033505.57189.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, November 10, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Natalie Maynor wrote: >> I have never thought of renters as not paying their >> fair share in >> property taxes. > But that's one of the reasons many people rent - that > and not having to maintain the property themselves. Really? I thought it was not having the burden of owning a place. Taxes never entered in my decision to rent anywhere. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 22:10:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB4AU6q007004 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:10:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 62B081E6017B; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:05:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30FB21E60178 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:05:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3DF11@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:58:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14387789 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:58:06 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB3w6g21565 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:58:06 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hAB3w5sg022411 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:58:05 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:58:47 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <38022795.20031110215847@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: As seen on Craigslist MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "I live in Austin and I am looking for a writing position. The size or type of publication does not matter. Any writing position will do. I worked for two years as a newspaper reporter for the Starkville Daily News in Starkville, MS covering city and county politics. I also wrote many stories on education, Mississippi State University events, and community interest pieces." From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 22:31:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB4VW6q007199 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:31:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8B0831E60172; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:26:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51C3B1E60183 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:26:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001DC0C0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 23:18:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14391639 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 23:18:51 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB4Iog24818 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 23:18:51 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 23:18:45 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7774E@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: McJob Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 23:18:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Karen Kay [mailto:karen@WORDWRITE.COM] >Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 10:47 AM >On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:38:53 -0500, Marie Ascher ><14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> >wrote: >>Oh, well, anyway, it's in the OED (and the AHD too), but this >is the OED >entry: >> >>McJob >> >>An unstimulating, low-paid job with few prospects, esp. one >created by the >expansion of the service sector. > >Ah, these are the jobs expanding under the current recovery. So there's something wrong with working at Chez Ronald? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 22:38:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB4cV6q007276 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:38:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5E2B71E60194; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:33:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B5221E6018B for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:33:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3E107@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 23:26:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14391814 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 23:26:07 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB4Q7g25278 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 23:26:07 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hAB4Q6sg023970 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:26:06 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:26:48 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1739857246.20031110222648@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: McJob In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7774E@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7774E@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, November 10, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: >>From: Karen Kay [mailto:karen@WORDWRITE.COM] >>Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 10:47 AM >>On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:38:53 -0500, Marie Ascher >><14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> >>wrote: >>>Oh, well, anyway, it's in the OED (and the AHD too), but this >>is the OED >>entry: >>> >>>McJob >>> >>>An unstimulating, low-paid job with few prospects, esp. one >>created by the >>expansion of the service sector. >> >>Ah, these are the jobs expanding under the current recovery. > So there's something wrong with working at Chez Ronald? Did I say there was? I was just making the connection between something I heard on NPR, about the few jobs that are being created are being created in the service sector, and not quite knowing what meant, except it's not mfg. Marie made everything clear for me. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 23:08:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB5806q007488 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 23:08:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BB4F31E60183; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 23:02:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 833D71E60163 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 23:02:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3E1EA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 23:55:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14393913 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 23:55:36 -0500 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB4tag28589 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 23:55:36 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1f0.13010729 (2168) for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 23:55:16 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1f0.13010729.2ce1c5b4@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 23:55:16 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] REALTOR.com Listing #598675 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/10/2003 9:17:28 PM Central Standard Time, PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM writes: << You clipped my words incorrectly. I *did* state if they are considered vital by their employer as a legitimate excuse for being on the road. >> No, there are some places that order workers to come in even if they are not considered vital; Sears is one. At least, Marc was reasonable enough to waive the points that Sandra, among other store managers, love to heap on their associates. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Two days until Bennie arrives! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 23:47:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB5li6q007854 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 23:47:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1B65E1E6019B; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 23:42:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 882A81E6018B for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 23:42:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3E2F7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 0:35:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14395309 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 00:34:39 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAB50bg29565 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 00:00:37 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:00:32 PST Message-ID: <20031111050032.91744.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:00:32 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: octopuses get erections To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <52740233.20031110214757@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > > They had some % figures - I don't remember what % > of thinking time old > > ladies and teen-aged boys devote to money. > > You sure you're not confusing money and sex?!:) > > Karen Especially in the case of old ladies. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 23:48:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB5mJ6q007859 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 23:48:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5C5941E6019C; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 23:43:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E4261E60198 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 23:43:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3E313@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 0:35:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14396140 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 00:35:06 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAB54Dg30326 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 00:04:13 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:04:08 PST Message-ID: <20031111050408.69677.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:04:08 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: REALTOR.com Listing #598675 To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1f0.13010729.2ce1c5b4@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > Evelyn Duncan > brandykitt@aol.com > Two days until Bennie arrives! 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 23:49:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB5ni6q007865 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 23:49:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C71031E60198; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 23:44:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 995AB1E6018B for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 23:44:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001DC339@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 0:37:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14397238 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 00:35:49 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB5WFg32143 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 00:32:15 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 00:32:09 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7774F@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: McJob Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 00:32:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] >Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 11:27 PM >I was just making the connection between something I heard >on NPR, about the few jobs that are being created are being created in >the service sector, and not quite knowing what meant, except it's not >mfg. Marie made everything clear for me. One of the things being pushed heavily here in the central portion of Indiana is "Life Sciences Initiative". They see this as the next wave of technology after Computers|Information|etc. And with Eli Lilly, Purdue University, Indiana University, and the "Biomedical Capital of the World" (Warsaw, where I grew up, which has Zimmer, Othy, Biomet, Depuy). The media continues to push "high paying long-lasting jobs" as if those who are watching the manufacturing job market shrink like a pond in the summer heat can suddenly switch into the hi-tech sector at the drop of a hat. In reality (when the cameras and microphones are turned off), they admit a lot of it is rah-rah cheerleading stuff but the hope is it will slow or stop the brain drain. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 10 23:55:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB5tD6q007969 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 23:55:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E3A7E1E60198; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 23:49:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B24C21E6018B for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 23:49:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3E3F6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 0:42:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14398076 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 00:42:48 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB5gmg01159 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 00:42:48 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAB5gleO024326 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:42:47 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAB5gja2024302; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:42:46 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031110214422.00a55b80@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:44:47 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Meldrum Bay In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:20 AM 11/11/2003 +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >>And when is Rashmi going to announce Meldrum Bay as our fest >>destination? > >Now. > >2005 Words-l fest site is Meldrum Bay. I wonder if Marty checked with Mary. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 00:57:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB6vO6q008528 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 00:57:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EE6D21E6018B; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 00:52:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C5261E60152 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 00:52:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3E4A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 1:44:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14399892 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 01:44:52 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB6ipg06594 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 01:44:51 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 01:44:46 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77750@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Illegal Aliens Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 01:44:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] >Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 7:05 AM >don't pay taxes, are officially non-existent. Can she go to public >school? Depending upon the circumstances (direction the wind is blowing, day of the week, how well all three speak English, etc. you would be surprised how little paperwork is checked at schools (or any place where one would presume a lot of paperwork to prove certain types of things are true; e.g., immunization) are actually checked. If the staff is having a bad day and there's a lot of people in line, they may not be as thorough in performing due diligence. >Just as they're trying to figure out what to do about >that, Joe >keels over one day with an attack of some undetermined kind, possibly >one resulting from ingesting a chicken feather. Even though they're >doing ok with their $3 an hour, especially since they work very long >hours, they haven't enough money for medical care, and of course they >have no insurance since they're illegal. What happens? Does >Joe lie on >the floor and die with the chickens? Again, there are lots of variables at play here - mostly depending upon where you are and what types of facilities are around. For the most part, an ER will not (and likely can not) turn you away at the door if you are in an unstable state of health, even if you can't show proof of insurance. Technically, skits and Saturday Night Live aside, they do not make you prove you have insurance prior to treating you if you really are in dire straits. If someone is with you, however, they may be rather busy dealing with such issues while you're being tended to. Once you are stabilized, however, your residence in that facility is not guaranteed. You would likely be shipped to one of the hospitals designated for indigent care. The sad part is, those hospitals are really feeling the strain financially and as a result, are finding it tougher to retain - or even hire new staff of the caliber[1] they would prefer to. Those types of facilities usually receive additional monies (other than the Fed'l gov't) from the city in order to keep them functioning. Making a profit is not priority #1. [1] Q: What do you call someone who graduates at the bottom of their class? A: Doctor. In all seriousness WRT caliber, many of those facilities provide a broader spectrum of challenges simply because they are in a position where they cannot be choosy. As a result, people who can't go anywhere else usually don't have the same degree of insurance for routine medical & dental care and end up using EMTs, paramedics, and ERs as their standard medical provider. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 01:48:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB7mX6q009063 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 01:48:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 93FCB1E6019C; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 01:43:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65B281E60176 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 01:43:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3E5A7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 2:36:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14402358 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 02:36:08 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB7a8g11465 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 02:36:08 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 02:36:02 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77751@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: mcedness Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 02:36:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] >Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 9:40 PM >Ann Borkin wrote: > >> watched my mother train herself into torpor and inertia. > >I think that is something that happens to people (not all >people -- some >people) in old age. My mother continued to work crossword puzzles and >read the newspaper, but she in many ways did seem to train herself into >torpor and inertia in her late 80s. It surprised me because >she had not >been one I would have expected that of. I'm not sure whether it is a >physical or a mental shutting down. And I'm not sure whether it's bad. >It of course seems bad to those of us on the . But I don't >really know. My maternal grandmother just turned 86 on Nov 2. She's walks three miles every morning (and has a pacemaker which gets tuned once a year). She went back to school later in adulthood to get her Master's to be able to teach here in Indiana. (You don't have to have a Master's to teach but have five years to earn it or show cause as to why you haven't finished it within five years and need more time). She's joked we "started first grade together" ever since we did start school together. Most of the time, however, she taught Kindergarden. When my mom & her husband each purchased PCs, my grandma wanted one and she's taken to it like a duck to water. To the best of my knowledge, she's never attended any classes and I don't think she's purchased any books - mostly taking advantage online help & working through things pretty patiently. If I send email, I get it back[1], and usually with little delay. She's also pretty good at surfing the web & using it for research. She's gone back and worked through all of the family photos & related items and tried to catalogue them electronically and provide background on each member in the photos first-hand and as thorough as she can from knowing & interacting with them, second-hand, etc. to try and leave a good trail of breadcrumbs for anyone following behind her. [1] and it's "high quality", definitely not like the online grafitti: "IF IT WEREN'T FOR THE CAPS LOCK KEY I'D NEVER GET ANY EMAIL FROM MY GRANDMA" From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 02:24:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB8OJ6q009397 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 02:24:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A2C9F1E601AA; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 02:18:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74AC91E601A4 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 02:18:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3E5DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 3:10:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14403094 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 03:10:56 -0500 Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (imo-r05.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB8Aug13591 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 03:10:56 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1a9.1c8e4d26 (4320) for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 03:10:40 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1a9.1c8e4d26.2ce1f380@aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 03:10:40 EST Subject: Re: REALTOR.com Listing #654145 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/10/2003 8:51:41 PM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: >Thus, Theo, by your own volition, you have removed >yourself from membership at the Hodge Podge Lodge. > Thanks very much. One more thing I don't have to worry about! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 02:24:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB8OR6q009421 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 02:24:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CB8E31E6018E; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 02:19:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DC4E1E60180 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 02:19:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3E5E0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 3:12:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14403126 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 03:12:01 -0500 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB8C1g13686 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 03:12:01 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.76.348ce5d9 (4320) for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 03:11:51 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <76.348ce5d9.2ce1f3c7@aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 03:11:51 EST Subject: Re: why I read the Canadian news To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/10/2003 8:40:59 PM, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: > >As for how I could make a difference as a member of the SS, I can't imagine >that I would be selected to sit on the board, since I would not be willing >to send someone against their will to be taught to kill. >clo ------- Absolutely NOT! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 02:25:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB8PO6q009437 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 02:25:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 734711E6018E; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 02:20:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45C451E60180 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 02:20:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001DC539@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 3:12:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14403130 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 03:12:59 -0500 Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (imo-r05.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB8Cxg13722 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 03:12:59 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.11c.27f4361a (4320) for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 03:12:47 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <11c.27f4361a.2ce1f3fe@aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 03:12:46 EST Subject: Re: octopuses get erections To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/10/2003 11:35:00 PM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: >--- Karen Kay wrote: >> > They had some % figures - I don't remember what % >> of thinking time old >> > ladies and teen-aged boys devote to money. >>>> You sure you're not confusing money and sex?!:) >>>> Karen >>Especially in the case of old ladies. --------- Hey, speak for yourself please! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 02:41:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAB8fq6q009634 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 02:41:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 647981E601AB; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 02:36:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 321981E601AA for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 02:36:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3E616@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 3:29:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14403371 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 03:29:27 -0500 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB8TRg14663 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 03:29:27 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.16f.262f7278 (4320) for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 03:29:14 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <16f.262f7278.2ce1f7da@aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 03:29:14 EST Subject: Re: mcedness To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/11/2003 1:37:31 AM, PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM writes: >My maternal grandmother just turned 86 ------ Mine almost made it to 100. Of course there weren't any computers then, but she was active with other activities until her death. My mother died young, but only because she had some unknown blood decease. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 04:01:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABA156q010363 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 04:01:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 630281E60195; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 03:55:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30AE61E6018F for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 03:55:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3E69C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 4:48:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14404607 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 04:48:39 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAB9mcg20207 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 04:48:38 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:50:31 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id VR1BP6R5; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:50:29 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031111104808.02705178@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:48:31 +0100 Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109185730.00bb74f8@pop.gwi.net> References: <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109112239.00ba3c20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109143728.00bafbe0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109163859.00bc2e90@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109185730.00bb74f8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 18:57 09.11.2003 -0500 skrev bonniev: >>> No, I'm German. Bonnie Mae Dreps was my maiden name. >>> bonnie >> >>But you were talking about "me mother." >> - D. M. > >Aye, that. It's from living with a Scots husband. I didn't realize that Voigtlander was Scots. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 04:20:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABAKH6q010568 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 04:20:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DF7911E601BA; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 04:15:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B10B21E60195 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 04:15:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3E6D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 5:07:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14405089 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 05:07:51 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABA7pg21796 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 05:07:51 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:09:44 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id VR1BP6VA; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:09:37 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031111110550.0273bb18@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:07:39 +0100 Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <1733366295.20031109203841@WordWrite.com> References: <1733366295.20031109203841@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 20:38 09.11.2003 -0600 skrev Karen Kay: >On Sunday, November 09, 2003, Ann Borkin wrote: >> Sitting quietly and doing nothing? > >Sitting in silence is NOT the same as doing nothing. > >> But I suppose you mean an alert, almost athletic sitting. > >LOL. > >> Is there a Zen center near you, I wonder? > >When we were talking about corporate prayer this morning, the >comparison of Zen and Quakerism came up. Zen practitioners feel at >home in Quaker meeting--till people start doing vocal worship. Our sesshins (retreats) are silent for the whole week - ekcept for recitation, a daily talk by the teacher and necessary communication in the working periods (kept at a minimum). Vi also do not greet each other - everyone is left in peace. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 04:48:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABAmk6q010889 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 04:48:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5FBF01E601CD; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 04:43:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 324C01E6018D for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 04:43:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DC615@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 5:36:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14405612 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 05:36:10 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABAaAg24123 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 05:36:10 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.37]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031111103604.CWUL1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 05:36:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB0BB95.40551E9E@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 04:36:05 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens References: <20031111033000.51051.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > You've done such a good job on your assignment, I'm > tempted to make an outline to remind myself of > discussion points. I'm working on it, but you'll be No, in reading it, I noticed that I had changed daughter Isabel's name to Inez in mid-stream, thus risking confusion of mother and daughter. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 04:53:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABAr36q010923 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 04:53:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4C6CA1E601CD; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 04:47:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EF9A1E6018D for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 04:47:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001DC643@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 5:40:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14405736 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 05:40:37 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABAeag24453 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 05:40:36 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.37]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031111104031.CXEM1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 05:40:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB0BCA0.5C938E4E@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 04:40:32 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Espanillegal References: <20031111033505.57189.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > I have never thought of renters as not paying their > > fair share in > > property taxes. > > But that's one of the reasons many people rent - that > and not having to maintain the property themselves. Not having to maintain the property makes sense. Thinking that they are saving on taxes doesn't. Do they really think that rental units are exempt from property taxes? Or do they think landlords are just kindly guardians who are happy to pay the property taxes for the renters? Not only is the renter paying the taxes, he/she is not getting an income tax deduction for doing so (which of course doesn't matter if the renter doesn't itemize). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 04:55:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABAtf6q010946 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 04:55:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 734D11E601D0; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 04:50:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41BAF1E601CD for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 04:50:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3E719@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 5:43:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14405777 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 05:43:15 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABAhEg24575 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 05:43:14 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.37]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031111104309.CXLI1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 05:43:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB0BD3E.DDC5D1EB@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 04:43:10 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: As seen on Craigslist References: <38022795.20031110215847@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > "I live in Austin and I am looking for a writing position. The size or type of > publication does not matter. Any writing position will do. > > I worked for two years as a newspaper reporter for the Starkville Daily News in > Starkville, MS covering city and county politics. I also wrote many stories on > education, Mississippi State University events, and community interest > pieces." Did the person give a name? From the above writing sample, I would say he or she is not likely to have a flood of interest from potential employers. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 05:41:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABBfG6q011408 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 05:41:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BDA7F1E60192; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 05:35:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9087D1E60190 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 05:35:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3E7AD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 6:28:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14406939 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:28:49 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABBSng28103 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:28:49 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:28:43 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77752@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: mcedness Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:28:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: bonniev [mailto:bonniev@GWI.NET] >Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 8:28 PM >> > >I've found that a good philosophy of life is: "just >because you can, >> > >doesn't mean you have to". >> >>My problem is more like thinking 'just because I can't, doesn't mean I >>have to.' --Ann > >Ah, that's why you are driven to learn so many different >things. You must >accept that "Just because I can't does not mean I need to >learn to." I >was watching an old episode of Northern Exposure yesterday. >The wise DJ >tells the hyperactive doctor that the doctor's problem is >that, with quiet >all around him, he is faced with the most important question: >what is the >meaning of my life. What the doctor must accept is that there is no >meaning to his life. He must learn to simply sit quietly and do >nothing. I'm well on my way to learning and accepting that. God cannot steer a still ship. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 05:47:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABBl76q011481 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 05:47:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 35EA31E6012C; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 05:41:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07AEF1E600D7 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 05:41:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3E7AF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 6:34:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14407069 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:34:40 -0500 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABBYeg28571 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:34:40 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.6.1bc4d0bf (24895) for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:34:31 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <6.1bc4d0bf.2ce22347@aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:34:31 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] REALTOR.com Listing #598675 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/10/2003 11:36:15 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << Actually a little less, now. YaY! >> Yes! I changed my sig. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com One day until Bennie arrives! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 06:35:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABCZA6q011736 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:35:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AE48A1E60199; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:29:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C4571E60197 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:29:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3E857@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 7:22:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14408284 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:22:43 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABCMgg19820 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:22:42 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hABCMfSf014765 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:22:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:23:26 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <977282951.20031111062326@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: As seen on Craigslist In-Reply-To: <3FB0BD3E.DDC5D1EB@maynor.net> References: <38022795.20031110215847@WordWrite.com> <3FB0BD3E.DDC5D1EB@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, November 11, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> >> "I live in Austin and I am looking for a writing position. The size or type of >> publication does not matter. Any writing position will do. >> >> I worked for two years as a newspaper reporter for the Starkville Daily News in >> Starkville, MS covering city and county politics. I also wrote many stories on >> education, Mississippi State University events, and community interest >> pieces." > Did the person give a name? No--Craigslist doesn't work that way. There's an e-mail address. > From the above writing sample, I would say > he or she is not likely to have a flood of interest from potential > employers. Well, yeah. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 06:51:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABCpD6q011932 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:51:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 55DBD1E601D1; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:45:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 235FC1E60197 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:45:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001DC7A3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 7:38:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14408362 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:38:45 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABCSjg20218 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:28:45 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hABCS13W013113 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:28:01 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:28:44 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77752@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Message-ID: References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77752@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: >God cannot steer a still ship. But he can and does open communication channels with a captain at rest. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 06:53:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABCrV6q011966 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:53:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E8B461E601D4; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:48:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA0AE1E601D1 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:48:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3E865@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 7:41:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14408586 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:41:03 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABCf3g20938 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:41:03 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:40:57 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77755@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: mcedness Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:40:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Bethany K. Dumas [mailto:dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU] >Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 7:29 AM >On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > >>God cannot steer a still ship. > >But he can and does open communication channels with a captain at rest. It's incredible how often people use earplugs during that time. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 06:57:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABCvI6q011986 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:57:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6D6A21E601D1; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:52:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C1A21E60197 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:52:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001DC7B1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 7:44:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14408686 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:44:50 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABCiog21191 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:44:50 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hABCimkF019310 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:44:48 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hABCim3j019308 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:44:48 +0100 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:44:47 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness Message-ID: <20031111124447.GA19253@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200311101539.hAAFdWt24601@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200311101539.hAAFdWt24601@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = I guess *I* don't see the point of an empty mind. That, to me, is a waste = of time. Sitting in silence doesn't mean having an empty mind. = = Karen I find that some concentrated mind emptying is what I need to do to get back to sleep, to calm down from whatever creeping paranoia I'm experiencing in the middle of the night. When it's not to get back to sleep, I find it useful for letting in the thoughts that don't get a chance in the midst of the business I usually have going on in there. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 07:00:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABD0o6q012015 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:00:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BC1681E601D1; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:55:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B32C1E60197 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:55:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3E87A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 7:48:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14408763 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:48:23 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABCmMg21574 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:48:22 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hABCmLkF019320 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:48:21 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hABCmLHn019318 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:48:21 +0100 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:48:20 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness Message-ID: <20031111124820.GB19253@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200311101602.hAAG2ut29320@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200311101602.hAAG2ut29320@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = Which is why I go to Quaker meeting instead of Zen sits. (Though I often = wouldn't mind if meeting were longer than an hour.) I find that if I just = let my mind BE, it will go where it needs to. Sometimes you just really = need to sit with your daily stuff/work etc. for a while. I personally do = better if I sit with it rather than 'trying to empty my mind'. YMMV. = = Karen With this I do agree, but it's a very different experience to sort through my stuff with purpose vs. to turn off the running tape. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 07:01:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABD1L6q012026 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:01:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C81191E601D4; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:56:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99F851E60197 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:56:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3E888@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 7:48:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14408786 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:48:54 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABCmsg21609 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:48:54 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hABCmrSf028753 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:48:53 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:49:37 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <106470786.20031111064937@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: mcedness In-Reply-To: <20031111124447.GA19253@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200311101539.hAAFdWt24601@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20031111124447.GA19253@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, November 11, 2003, steph wrote: > = > = I guess *I* don't see the point of an empty mind. That, to me, is a waste > = of time. Sitting in silence doesn't mean having an empty mind. > = > = Karen > I find that some concentrated mind emptying is what I need to do > to get back to sleep, to calm down from whatever creeping > paranoia I'm experiencing in the middle of the night. When it's > not to get back to sleep, I find it useful for letting in the > thoughts that don't get a chance in the midst of the business I > usually have going on in there. Rather than emptying my mind, I focus on filling it with a specific type of energy. This works far better for me, personally. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 07:07:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABD7I6q012069 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:07:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B12531E601D4; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:02:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83E3A1E60197 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:02:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3E893@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 7:54:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14408878 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:54:51 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABCspg21933 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:54:51 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hABCsoSf002408 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:54:50 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:55:34 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <711178024.20031111065534@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: mcedness In-Reply-To: <20031111124820.GB19253@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200311101602.hAAG2ut29320@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20031111124820.GB19253@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, November 11, 2003, steph wrote: > = > = Which is why I go to Quaker meeting instead of Zen sits. (Though I often > = wouldn't mind if meeting were longer than an hour.) I find that if I just > = let my mind BE, it will go where it needs to. Sometimes you just really > = need to sit with your daily stuff/work etc. for a while. I personally do > = better if I sit with it rather than 'trying to empty my mind'. YMMV. > = > = Karen > With this I do agree, but it's a very different experience to > sort through my stuff with purpose vs. to turn off the running > tape. Oh, yes. I find it much easier to turn off the running tape in community than by myself. In fact, I think I find it impossible by myself. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 07:07:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABD7U6q012072 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:07:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4DE521E601D5; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:02:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 203E51E601D4 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:02:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3E888@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 7:55:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14408691 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:55:03 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABCj3g21239 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:45:03 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hABCiJ3W016010 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:44:19 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:45:03 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77755@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Message-ID: References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77755@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: >>>God cannot steer a still ship. >> >>But he can and does open communication channels with a captain at rest. > >It's incredible how often people use earplugs during that time. Good point - and sometimes they listen to other channels. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 07:07:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABD7r6q012076 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:07:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 650531E601D7; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:02:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3445D1E601D4 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:02:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3E895@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 7:55:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14408892 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:55:26 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hABCtPg21979 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:55:25 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:55:25 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:55:03 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Signing with infants Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hABD7r6q012076 Well that's good for them too. BrP >>> karen@WORDWRITE.COM 11/10/03 05:40PM >>> I keep reading this as 'singing with infants'. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 07:12:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABDC76q012109 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:12:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B05871E601D4; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:06:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F6DA1E60197 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:06:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3E8AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 7:59:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14409085 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:59:40 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hABCxeg22365 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:59:40 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:59:40 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:59:18 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Signing with infants Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hABDC76q012109 That's very cute - and an interesting peek at how learning happens. BrP >>> twild@URI.EDU 11/10/03 08:24PM >>> At age 1, William picked up the more sign from Lillia who was learning in preschool. We encouraged him and when Ed was 1 taught him more, please and thank you. Although he does his own modified versions, it gets the point across. Even now when he can speak the words, he still sometimes signs them as well. The funniest was the please. He would rub his belly with both hands and if he *really* wanted something would also rub our bellies. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 07:16:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABDGG6q012165 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:16:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EFBC01E601D4; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:10:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27DD01E60197 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:10:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3E8AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 8:03:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14408841 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:03:38 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABCrcg21855 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:53:38 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hABCqs3W017699 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:52:54 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:53:37 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <106470786.20031111064937@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <200311101539.hAAFdWt24601@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20031111124447.GA19253@yoccoz.multinix.com> <106470786.20031111064937@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >Rather than emptying my mind, I focus on filling it with a specific >type of energy. This works far better for me, personally. Works better to accomplish what? Do you mean that it is more comfortable for you? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 07:21:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABDL36q012189 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:21:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2F7331E601D4; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:15:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0B8E1E60197 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:15:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3E8BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 8:08:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14409379 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:08:26 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABD8Qg23222 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:08:26 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:10:19 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id VR1BP8KB; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:10:16 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031111140259.026700d0@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:08:17 +0100 Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109213813.00bc3e80@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109202516.00bb6bf8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109213813.00bc3e80@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 21:40 09.11.2003 -0500 skrev bonniev: >>Sitting quietly and doing nothing? Well I think use it or lose it, having >>watched my mother train herself into torpor and inertia. But I suppose >>you mean an alert, almost athletic sitting. Is there a Zen center near >>you, I wonder? However, I think erging could count as sitting quietly and >>doing nothing, actually, what do you think. --Ann > >There is a Zen center not too far away from me. I considered it. > >Yes, I do think erging and knitting are two ways of sitting quietly and >doing nothing. I do think though that true would be what Espen >does. I don't do that but often think I should. I try to quiet my mind >and focus on nothing during the twelve minutes it takes to do a Tai Chi >set. But I am never successful. In fact, I am appalled at the variety of >thoughts that flit through my mind during those 12 minutes. To be honest: I concentrate on my breath and not on nothing (unless I concentrate on a koan after I have concentrated on my breathing) - and it as amazing how many thoughts which suddenly feel the need to present themselves. The idea, at least as far as I have been doing this is to recognize the thoughts that appear, just let them go by, not trying to force them to stop. BTW what kind of Tai Chi are you doing? I am following a beginners class using the short Yang form right now. And I don't care whether I will ever do even this short form all the way: I find the warming up exercises and standing meditation just as important, and we spend close to 40 minutes on that before we start with the form. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 07:23:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABDNM6q012232 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:23:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E15A11E60197; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:18:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B28FB1E6017F for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:18:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3E8CE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 8:10:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14409454 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:10:54 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABDAsg23397 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:10:54 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hABDArSf011251 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:10:53 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:11:37 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <10610620623.20031111071137@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: mcedness In-Reply-To: References: <200311101539.hAAFdWt24601@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20031111124447.GA19253@yoccoz.multinix.com> <106470786.20031111064937@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, November 11, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >>Rather than emptying my mind, I focus on filling it with a specific >>type of energy. This works far better for me, personally. > Works better to accomplish what? I don't remember if we were talking about going to sleep or waking up and going back to sleep, but in any case, it accomplishes preparing me for sleep. (This is actually something I've been working on.) > Do you mean that it is more comfortable > for you? No. If I do this, I wake up rested and happy. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 07:40:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABDeQ6q012456 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:40:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B38331E60197; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:35:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84A6E1E6017F for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:35:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001DC870@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 8:27:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14410357 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:27:58 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABDRvg25565 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:27:57 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:28:21 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id VR1BP8T8; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:28:19 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031111141030.02670e28@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:26:21 +0100 Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <28584559.20031109204624@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109202516.00bb6bf8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109213813.00bc3e80@pop.gwi.net> <28584559.20031109204624@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 20:46 09.11.2003 -0600 skrev Karen Kay: >On Sunday, November 09, 2003, bonniev wrote: >> Yes, I do think erging and knitting are two ways of sitting quietly and >> doing nothing. > >I consider the time I spend petting Burl as meditation time. > >> In fact, I am appalled at the variety of >> thoughts that flit through my mind during those 12 minutes. > >One of the things that appeals to me about Quakerism over Zen is that >Quakers don't care what you think about as long as you sit in silence >for an hour. There's no discussion of monkey mind or quieting your >mind or any of that crap. I don't really care about what the others in the zendo think about :-) But the idea (again as far as my understanding works) is that concentrating on the breath (or not concentrating on anything in a true Soto way) is part of a training, it is not a goal in itself. If you sit often enough and concentrated enough then you may calm things down far enough (samadhi) to get knowledge by recognizing the working of your body and mind etc (vipassana). Or in Rinzai you might work on concentration, on calming down at first when you sit and then move on to your koan. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 07:51:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABDpK6q012918 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:51:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 94DD91E60197; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:46:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 623561E6017F for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:46:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001DC8BF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 8:38:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14411112 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:38:52 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABDcpg27180 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:38:51 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hABDcnvi012490 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:38:49 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:39:33 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <823636700.20031111073933@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: mcedness In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.0.20031111141030.02670e28@localhost> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109202516.00bb6bf8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109213813.00bc3e80@pop.gwi.net> <28584559.20031109204624@WordWrite.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20031111141030.02670e28@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, November 11, 2003, Espen Ore wrote: > 20:46 09.11.2003 -0600 skrev Karen Kay: >>On Sunday, November 09, 2003, bonniev wrote: >>> Yes, I do think erging and knitting are two ways of sitting quietly and >>> doing nothing. >> >>I consider the time I spend petting Burl as meditation time. >> >>> In fact, I am appalled at the variety of >>> thoughts that flit through my mind during those 12 minutes. >> >>One of the things that appeals to me about Quakerism over Zen is that >>Quakers don't care what you think about as long as you sit in silence >>for an hour. There's no discussion of monkey mind or quieting your >>mind or any of that crap. > I don't really care about what the others in the zendo think about :-) > But the idea (again as far as my understanding works) is that concentrating on the breath (or not concentrating on anything in a true Soto way) is part of a training, it is not a goal in itself. If > you sit often enough and concentrated enough then you may calm things down far enough (samadhi) to get knowledge by recognizing the working of your body and mind etc (vipassana). Or in Rinzai you > might work on concentration, on calming down at first when you sit and then move on to your koan. I think it's the many-paths-one-destination thing. The last thing I want to think about it is making this training or working on a koan. So far it's been *fun*, and I'd like to keep it that way. It's like Pilates without the physical component. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 08:03:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABE3i6q013056 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:03:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 07FB21E601A0; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:58:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA8E51E60197 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:58:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3E9B7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 8:51:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14411811 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:51:07 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABDp7g28670 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:51:07 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-251.gwi.net [216.195.153.251]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hABDp3Gp095035; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:51:05 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031111082853.00b1a940@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:50:57 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.0.20031111104808.02705178@localhost> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109185730.00bb74f8@pop.gwi.net> <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109112239.00ba3c20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109143728.00bafbe0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109163859.00bc2e90@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109185730.00bb74f8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:48 AM 11/11/2003 +0100, Espen Ore wrote: >I didn't realize that Voigtlander was Scots. It probably will come as no surprise to you that it isn't. Voigtlander is my stepfather's name. I don't know that I would claim Scottish ancestry to the exclusion of all others. Like most whose origins are of the British Isles, I'm undoubtedly a mongrel---Anglo-Saxon, Norman French, Irish, Scot, Welsh, perhaps even some Dane, thanks to those seasonal visitors in the long boats. From what little I know of my genetic heritage, there have been Burtons, Bakers, Wheatleys, Aults, Cochonours, Ratcliffs, and Nicholsons. The Ratcliff and Nicholson lines are Scot; the Nicholsons were in the clan McLeod (Isle of Lewis) and apparently took part (for a brief time, anyhow) in the doings at Culloden; one or more of the Nicholsons escaped the resulting ethnic cleansing and made it to North America. The Ratcliff who made it to this side of the pond (and who had one descendent who became president of a small Eastern college) was one of two brothers; the other didn't make the boat---he was apprehended and hanged as a horse thief. Probably a fairly typical background for an immigrant to the New World. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 08:14:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABEEv6q013177 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:14:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5A58C1E601A0; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:09:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13B8D1E60197 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:09:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3E9F3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 9:02:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14412425 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:02:25 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABE2Pg30114 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:02:25 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-251.gwi.net [216.195.153.251]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hABE2LGn096493 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:02:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031111085823.00b2b790@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:02:46 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens In-Reply-To: <20031111032145.66523.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> References: <1825247909.20031110202819@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >The issue under discussion (I thought) is whether or >not public education in the US should be supported by >universal taxation. I've never sent any children into a school system. But I very much support taxation for good schools. I think society as a whole benefits by providing a good education to its citizens. I follow the news of the grade school here in Bar Harbor and it makes me happy. I love the fact that the kids are taught how to knit, starting with making their own knitting needles. I think it's great that there is a segment on trail building. I applaud the fact that seventh graders all get laptop computers with wireless access, computers which they are allowed to take home at night. I am amused and pleased that for Halloween the kids had a lesson in the catapult. A guy on the island built a medieval catapult. He threw a pumpkin and the kids measured distance and did some calculations. I feel that my property taxes are well spent. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 08:20:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABEKE6q013209 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:20:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DBC591E601A0; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:14:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F0261E60197 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:14:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3E9F7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 9:07:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14412623 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:07:46 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABE7kg30601 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:07:46 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hABE7jsg003121 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:07:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:08:29 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1929497987.20031111080829@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Illegal Aliens In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031111085823.00b2b790@pop.gwi.net> References: <1825247909.20031110202819@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031111085823.00b2b790@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, November 11, 2003, bonniev wrote: > I love the fact that the kids are taught how to knit, starting with > making their own knitting needles. Some of the men in my meeting knit; there's something fascinating about men with two sticks and some string... > A guy on the island built a medieval catapult. He threw a > pumpkin and the kids measured distance and did some calculations. I feel > that my property taxes are well spent. LOL. I want to go to school in Bar Harbor! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 08:22:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABEMN6q013233 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:22:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 832AE1E601A7; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:17:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5521A1E601A0 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:17:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3EA07@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 9:09:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14412764 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:09:55 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABE9sg30872 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:09:54 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-251.gwi.net [216.195.153.251]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hABE9rGn097644 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:09:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031111090635.00b49ca8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:10:19 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Espanillegal In-Reply-To: <20031111033505.57189.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> References: <3FB055BE.404790C8@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I have never thought of renters as not paying their > > fair share in property taxes. > >But that's one of the reasons many people rent - that >and not having to maintain the property themselves. If people rent for that reason, it's the same reason that people join Christmas Clubs. On their own, they don't have the discipline to put aside $100 a month to pay for their Christmas purchases in December. So they join a club that them put it aside. Same thing with renting vs. owning. The tax is included in the rent you must pay. You don't have to come up with an annual, or semi-annual, property tax payment. Of course, if you have a high enough mortgage, the lending company acts like a Christmas Club and makes you pay them monthly. They hold your funds in escrow. They see to it themselves that the house is not lost to the property tax people. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 08:23:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABEN16q013247 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:23:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9C92E1E601A7; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:17:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AA931E601A0 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:17:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3EA1A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 9:10:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14412807 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:10:33 -0500 Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABEAXg30969 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:10:33 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HO6006WXY0SXH@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:10:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.135] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:06:10 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:06:10 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <663f2f665494.665494663f2f@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Yes, I went to Catholic grade school. Why? Why?! Because I was > Catholic. I imagine I could have gone to the public school. Why > would I > have wanted to? In eighth grade we did all walk over to the > nearest public > school for one afternoon a week so the boys could take shop and > the girls > could take sewing and cooking. It was the 1950s. I was Catholic and my mother worked (and still works) in the Catholic schools, but we went to public school -- even though we wouldn't have had to pay tuition. I think it was because they have generally better facilities and options. I'll have to ask her about that. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 08:26:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABEQZ6q013351 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:26:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 15B5B1E601A0; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:21:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D42801E60197 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:21:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3EA22@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 9:14:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14413022 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:14:07 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABEE7g31418 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:14:07 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hABEE5W1003239 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:14:05 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hABEE2Wq003203; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:14:03 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031111061418.00a523e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:16:03 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Passing the peace In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.0.20031111110550.0273bb18@localhost> References: <1733366295.20031109203841@WordWrite.com> <1733366295.20031109203841@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I've never liked this in church. People are coughing and sneezing and then they want to shake your hand? Worse than a common cup. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 08:26:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABEQl6q013354 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:26:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 45A531E601A0; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:21:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F6661E60197 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:21:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001DC994@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 9:14:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14413062 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:14:19 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABEEJg31506 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:14:19 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:14:13 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7775D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Illegal Aliens Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:14:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] >Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 9:08 AM >On Tuesday, November 11, 2003, bonniev wrote: >> I love the fact that the kids are taught how to knit, starting with >> making their own knitting needles. > >Some of the men in my meeting knit; there's something fascinating >about men with two sticks and some string... My mom used to find activities such as this to occupy the three of us when we were going through the various childhood diseases - knitting, crochet[1], canasta, etc. If I were stranded in the Pearl Islands and ran out of clothing like Rupert (the commercials point to a conspiracy against him this week) and didn't have a sewing machine as he did, I could probably experiment to get either some knitting or crochet going but it would take a lot of failed attempts first. [1] VELvet + CROchet = VELCRO >> A guy on the island built a medieval catapult. He threw a >> pumpkin and the kids measured distance and did some >calculations. I feel >> that my property taxes are well spent. > >LOL. I want to go to school in Bar Harbor! We used to do similar things but it involved creating containers to pad an egg and see if we could drop the container off of the building without the egg cracking. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 08:27:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABERn6q013369 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:27:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DB9CF1E601D4; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:22:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A47F11E601A0 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:22:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3EA2E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 9:15:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14413125 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:15:21 -0500 Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABEFLg31741 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:15:21 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HO600KFJY9K6D@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:15:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.135] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:11:26 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:11:26 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: REALTOR.com Listing #598675 To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <6621b9660744.6607446621b9@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Now that is a very kind invitation! It won't be right at Christmas, > though. I'm flying to NYC that day. Will come home the 29th. I should drive in and introduce Laszlo to you !! Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 08:28:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABESd6q013375 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:28:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 244C81E60197; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:23:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7FF21E601A7 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:23:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3EA34@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 9:16:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14413191 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:16:10 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hABEGAg31938 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:16:10 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:16:09 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:16:07 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hABESd6q013375 Hey that's a Delaware thang! see: http://www.atbeach.com/punkinchunkin/ BrP >>> bonniev@GWI.NET 11/11/03 09:02AM >>> am amused and pleased that for Halloween the kids had a lesson in the catapult. A guy on the island built a medieval catapult. He threw a pumpkin and the kids measured distance and did some calculations. I feel that my property taxes are well spent. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 08:29:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABETH6q013387 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:29:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1DA4E1E601A0; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:24:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE0E61E6019E for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:23:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3EA5A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 9:16:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14413260 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:16:49 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABEGng32043 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:16:49 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:16:44 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7775E@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Passing the peace Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:16:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU share a left cheek sneak and see if they get the picture. >-----Original Message----- >From: Betty [mailto:bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU] >Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 9:16 AM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Passing the peace > > >I've never liked this in church. People are coughing and >sneezing and then >they want to shake your hand? Worse than a common cup. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 08:31:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABEVE6q013397 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:31:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6831D1E601A0; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:25:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 304DE1E60197 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:25:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001DC9BE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 9:18:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14413480 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:18:45 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABEIjg32481 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:18:45 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hABEIh2f014120 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:18:43 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hABEIgJC014106; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:18:42 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031111062024.00a55ee0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:20:43 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: As seen on Craigslist In-Reply-To: <3FB0BD3E.DDC5D1EB@maynor.net> References: <38022795.20031110215847@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:43 AM 11/11/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Did the person give a name? From the above writing sample, I would say >he or she is not likely to have a flood of interest from potential >employers. >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I didn't find it here. http://austin.craigslist.org/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 08:33:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABEXI6q013432 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:33:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C7B491E601A7; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:28:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C5F1E601A0 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:28:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3EA5D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 9:20:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14413564 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:20:50 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABEKng32686 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:20:50 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:20:44 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7775F@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Illegal Aliens Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:20:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU We lost a baby elephant this Summer - one of the first (the first?) born in captivity - colon blockage & related problems. Anyway, they are waiting to see if AI has taken hold with her mother again. When they were telling the story, "mama hopeful" was working her way through pumpkins. I'd never really thought about an elephant eating a pumpkin (for whatever reason) but it was kind of cool to see her pick one up, basically, break it into pieces between mouth & snout, and chomp away (it was better to see than my description). >From: Paul Barfoot [mailto:Prbarfoo@SYR.EDU] >Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 9:16 AM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens > > > >Hey that's a Delaware thang! > >see: >http://www.atbeach.com/punkinchunkin/ > > >BrP > > > >>>> bonniev@GWI.NET 11/11/03 09:02AM >>> >am amused and pleased that for Halloween the kids had a lesson in the >catapult. A guy on the island built a medieval catapult. He threw a >pumpkin and the kids measured distance and did some >calculations. I feel >that my property taxes are well spent. > > >bonnie > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 08:35:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABEZ66q013474 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:35:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BF7DB1E601D4; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:29:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B7B1E601A7 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:29:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3EA69@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 9:22:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14413673 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:22:38 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABEMcg00545 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:22:38 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hABEMbsg014653 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:22:37 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:23:22 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <62942294.20031111082322@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: As seen on Craigslist In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031111062024.00a55ee0@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <38022795.20031110215847@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031111062024.00a55ee0@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, November 11, 2003, Betty wrote: > At 04:43 AM 11/11/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>Did the person give a name? From the above writing sample, I would say >>he or she is not likely to have a flood of interest from potential >>employers. >>-- >> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > I didn't find it here. http://austin.craigslist.org/ This is the whole posting: http://austin.craigslist.org/res/19084224.html You needed to look under 'resumes', Betty. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 08:37:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABEbF6q013521 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:37:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 116781E601A7; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:31:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D77CF1E601A0 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:31:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3EA96@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 9:24:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14413861 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:24:47 -0500 Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.74]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABEOlg00877 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:24:47 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HO6008CAYOCND@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:24:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.135] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:20:17 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:20:17 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: "Most Americans have been to Europe" To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <621a45622eed.622eed621a45@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Neal Traven Date: Monday, November 10, 2003 10:32 pm Subject: "Most Americans have been to Europe" > Uh huh ... (see > http://www.linkmeister.com/blog/archives/000646.html#000646). > neal http://www.gyford.com/phil/writing/2003/01/31/how_many_america.php Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 08:39:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABEdK6q013539 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:39:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 004BB1E601A7; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:34:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C26001E601A0 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:34:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3EAA5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 9:26:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14414000 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:26:52 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABEQpg01119 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:26:52 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:28:45 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id VR1BP9JG; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:28:40 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031111152614.026dc540@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:26:41 +0100 Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031111082853.00b1a940@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109185730.00bb74f8@pop.gwi.net> <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109112239.00ba3c20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109143728.00bafbe0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109163859.00bc2e90@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109185730.00bb74f8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031111082853.00b1a940@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 08:50 11.11.2003 -0500 skrev clyde w. voigtlander: >At 10:48 AM 11/11/2003 +0100, Espen Ore wrote: > >>I didn't realize that Voigtlander was Scots. > >It probably will come as no surprise to you that it isn't. Voigtlander is >my stepfather's name. I don't know that I would claim Scottish ancestry to >the exclusion of all others. Like most whose origins are of the British >Isles, I'm undoubtedly a mongrel---Anglo-Saxon, Norman French, Irish, Scot, >Welsh, perhaps even some Dane, thanks to those seasonal visitors in the >long boats. From what little I know of my genetic heritage, there have >been Burtons, Bakers, Wheatleys, Aults, Cochonours, Ratcliffs, and >Nicholsons. The Ratcliff and Nicholson lines are Scot; the Nicholsons were >in the clan McLeod (Isle of Lewis) and apparently took part (for a brief Clan McLeod - is that the "Norse" clan? Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 08:42:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABEgj6q013580 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:42:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9C0421E601D5; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:37:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EB8E1E601D4 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:37:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3EAB1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 9:30:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14414134 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:30:17 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABEUGg01581 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:30:16 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hABEUFW1013502 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:30:15 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hABEUEWq013464; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:30:14 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031111062919.00a67a70@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:32:15 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Passing the peace In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7775E@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I do want to be friendly but I just don't like this and it's not only because of passing germs around. It totally disrupts personal worship for me. I used to time it to enter after this was done. Betty At 09:16 AM 11/11/2003 -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: >share a left cheek sneak and see if they get the picture. > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Betty [mailto:bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU] > >Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 9:16 AM > >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Subject: Passing the peace > > > > > >I've never liked this in church. People are coughing and > >sneezing and then > >they want to shake your hand? Worse than a common cup. > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 08:44:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABEiM6q013598 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:44:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 68BD21E601D4; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:39:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A7741E601A7 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:39:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3EAA1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 9:31:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14414239 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:31:54 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABEVrg01882 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:31:53 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-251.gwi.net [216.195.153.251]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hABEVqGn001254 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:31:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031111093131.00b3c9a0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:32:18 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77752@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > He must learn to simply sit quietly and do > >nothing. I'm well on my way to learning and accepting that. > >God cannot steer a still ship. Hey, you're right! There's another benefit. bonnie: not wanting to be steered From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 08:48:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABEmx6q013631 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:48:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 92B441E601D5; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:43:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 540EF1E601D4 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:43:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3EABA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 9:36:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14414468 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:36:31 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABEaUg02407 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:36:30 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hABEaT2f026812 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:36:29 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hABEaRJC026776; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:36:28 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031111063724.00a50480@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:38:29 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: As seen on Craigslist In-Reply-To: <62942294.20031111082322@WordWrite.com> References: <4.2.2.20031111062024.00a55ee0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <38022795.20031110215847@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031111062024.00a55ee0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:23 AM 11/11/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Tuesday, November 11, 2003, Betty wrote: > > At 04:43 AM 11/11/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >>Did the person give a name? From the above writing sample, I would say > >>he or she is not likely to have a flood of interest from potential > >>employers. > >>-- > >> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > > I didn't find it here. http://austin.craigslist.org/ > >This is the whole posting: >http://austin.craigslist.org/res/19084224.html > >You needed to look under 'resumes', Betty. Thanks. I was just trying to direct Natalie and looking quickly under writing. I love Craigslist. The University uses it a lot now for job postings. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 08:53:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABErx6q013677 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:53:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3D2F41E601D4; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:48:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71A941E601A7 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:48:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3EAEC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 9:41:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14414724 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:41:21 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABEfJg03108 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:41:20 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-251.gwi.net [216.195.153.251]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hABEfFAr020952 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:41:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031111093831.02f70ba8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:41:41 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Tai Chi In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.0.20031111140259.026700d0@localhost> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109213813.00bc3e80@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109202516.00bb6bf8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109213813.00bc3e80@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >BTW what kind of Tai Chi are you doing? I am following a beginners class >using the short Yang form right now. And I don't care whether I will ever >do even this short form all the way: I find the warming up exercises and >standing meditation just as important, and we spend close to 40 minutes on >that before we start with the form. >Espen Taoist Tai Chi as promulgated by Master Moy of Toronto, Canada. http://www.taoist.org/english/founder.php After we learned the set, we learned some exercises that I also thought were quite good. But I've forgotten the exercises. I bought the book that the Taoist Tai Chi Society of Canada put out and with that I re-taught myself the set after letting it lapse after moving to Maine. I do it all by myself as a quieting and as a warm-up to my twice weekly weight lifting routine. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 08:59:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABEx16q013703 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:59:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 592791E601D5; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:53:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7CDC1E601D4 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:53:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3EB15@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 9:46:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14415118 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:46:22 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABEkLg03838 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:46:21 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-251.gwi.net [216.195.153.251]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hABEkAGn003395 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:46:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031111094551.00ba7790@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:46:37 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wow. Sure enough. I think the guy on the island build a trebuchet. I see there is a category for that. > >Hey that's a Delaware thang! > >see: >http://www.atbeach.com/punkinchunkin/ > > >BrP > > > > >>> bonniev@GWI.NET 11/11/03 09:02AM >>> >am amused and pleased that for Halloween the kids had a lesson in the >catapult. A guy on the island built a medieval catapult. He threw a >pumpkin and the kids measured distance and did some calculations. I feel >that my property taxes are well spent. > > >bonnie bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 09:01:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABF1K6q013749 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:01:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 82A511E601D5; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:56:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E51511E601D4 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:55:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3EB0E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 9:48:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14415280 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:48:19 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABEmBg04129 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:48:12 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-251.gwi.net [216.195.153.251]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hABEm4At022215; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:48:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031111094214.00b35bc0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:48:03 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: mcedness In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.0.20031111152614.026dc540@localhost> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031111082853.00b1a940@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109185730.00bb74f8@pop.gwi.net> <20031109021020.54666.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FADB954.FFBB598C@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109112239.00ba3c20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109143728.00bafbe0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109163859.00bc2e90@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109185730.00bb74f8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031111082853.00b1a940@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:26 PM 11/11/2003 +0100, Espen Ore wrote: >Clan McLeod - is that the "Norse" clan? As it turns out, yes. The following is copied from: http://www.dave.mcclure.net/clan.html McLeods have "held fast" in western Scotland for more than 750 years, since the days of Olaf the Black, one of the last Norse Kings of Man and the Isles. Olaf's youngest son Leod inherited the regions of Lewis and Harris along with parts of Skye on his father's death in 1237. Through marriage to the Norse seneschal of Skye, the family acquired Dunvegan Castle, which remains the ancestral family home to this day. The Clan consists of two main branches: the McLeods of Lewis descend from Leod's son Torquil while the McLeods of Harris and Skye descend from another son, Tormod How the Nicholson's fit into this, I don't know. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 09:01:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABF1T6q013753 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:01:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8B2021E601D4; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:56:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E82321E601D5 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:56:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3EB2E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 9:48:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14415343 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:48:57 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABEmug04238 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:48:56 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hABEmr2K017082 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:48:54 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:49:38 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <851115097.20031111084938@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Illegal Aliens In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031111094551.00ba7790@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031111094551.00ba7790@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, November 11, 2003, bonniev wrote: > Wow. Sure enough. I think the guy on the island build a trebuchet. I see > there is a category for that. Like on Northern Exposure. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 09:07:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABF7A6q013832 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:07:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B9B041E601DE; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:01:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D2E81E601D5 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:01:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DCA72@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 9:54:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14415709 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:54:30 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABEsBg05082 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:54:12 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:56:04 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id VR1BP9SL; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:56:00 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031111154936.02675e38@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:54:02 +0100 Subject: Re: Tai Chi In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031111093831.02f70ba8@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109213813.00bc3e80@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109202516.00bb6bf8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109213813.00bc3e80@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031111093831.02f70ba8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 09:41 11.11.2003 -0500 skrev bonniev: >>BTW what kind of Tai Chi are you doing? I am following a beginners class >>using the short Yang form right now. And I don't care whether I will ever >>do even this short form all the way: I find the warming up exercises and >>standing meditation just as important, and we spend close to 40 minutes on >>that before we start with the form. >>Espen > >Taoist Tai Chi as promulgated by Master Moy of Toronto, >Canada. http://www.taoist.org/english/founder.php Aha - I see that he bases this on the long Yang form. I learned parts of that in Bergen some years ago but since that was at the time when I was working both in Bergen and Oslo I lost so many lessons that I never got into it. It was also definitely not Taoist Tai Chi but rather competetive and part of the sports available at the Univ. of Bergen. Now I try to learn the short Yang form here: http://www.cirkel.no/nts/html/about_nts.html Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 09:07:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABF7k6q013835 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:07:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2F8181E601D7; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:02:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC7711E601D5 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:02:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DCA7B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 9:55:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14415822 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:55:14 -0500 Received: from mail46.messagelabs.com (mail46.messagelabs.com [64.125.76.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hABEsmg05205 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:54:48 -0500 Received: (qmail 14992 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2003 14:54:42 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-6.tower-46.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 11 Nov 2003 14:54:42 -0000 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61C0AD71 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:54:42 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-6.tower-46.messagelabs.com!1068562482!71632 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.13; banners=.,-,- From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Meet me in St. Louis Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:54:43 -0500 Message-ID: <001401c3a863$bdfd0410$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Rashmi Murthy >Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 8:31 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Meet me in St. Louis > > >Rita and Ana Chapman will host next year's (stateside) list event. > >I'm still holding out for Namibia. > Sounds like a plan. alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 09:13:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABFD96q013920 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:13:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DEDD71E601DE; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:07:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC441E601D5 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:07:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3EB79@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:00:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14416281 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:00:37 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABF0Zg06261 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:00:36 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hABF0TeO009187 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:00:29 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hABF0Sa2009149; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:00:28 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031111070124.00a55100@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:02:30 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Meet me in St. Louis In-Reply-To: <001401c3a863$bdfd0410$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:54 AM 11/11/2003 -0500, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: > >-----Original Message----- > >From: English Language Discussion Group > >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Rashmi Murthy > >Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 8:31 PM > >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Subject: Meet me in St. Louis > > > > > >Rita and Ana Chapman will host next year's (stateside) list event. > > > >I'm still holding out for Namibia. > > >Sounds like a plan. > >alec Might you attend, alec? Haven't seen you since MissionFest. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 09:31:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABFV36q014205 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:31:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8C3151E6019F; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:25:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C3A41E600DE for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:25:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3EC12@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:18:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14417820 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:18:31 -0500 Received: from maple.vaxer.net (root@maple.vaxer.net [66.199.186.132]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABFIUg09595 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:18:30 -0500 Received: from maple.vaxer.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maple.vaxer.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hABFHBuA022860 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:18:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (sylvar@localhost) by maple.vaxer.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id hABFH7YI013140 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:17:11 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: maple.vaxer.net: sylvar owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:17:07 -0800 (PST) From: Ben Ostrowsky To: The usual gang of meebers Subject: Re: Tai Chi Message-ID: X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to . MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Taoist Tai Chi as promulgated by Master Moy of Toronto, > Canada. http://www.taoist.org/english/founder.php My mom does this, and tomorrow she will be filmed for a program that's shown in doctors' waiting rooms. Her cardiologist suggested her as one of the subjects; she will be filmed doing tai chi and bicycling, and possibly cooking a healthy meal (although her new kitchen is not completely installed). If you're in a doctor's office and you see Ellen Fike on TV doing any of these things, you've had a WLM. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 09:33:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABFXa6q014232 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:33:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1CE231E6019F; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:28:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A6E1E600DE for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:28:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3EC3D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:21:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14418175 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:21:07 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABFL7g10191 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:21:07 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3EC4B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:21:06 -0500 Message-Id: <200311111521.hABFL7g10191@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:21:07 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Espanillegal To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:50:33 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Monday, November 10, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >> --- Natalie Maynor wrote: >>> I have never thought of renters as not paying their >>> fair share in >>> property taxes. > >> But that's one of the reasons many people rent - that >> and not having to maintain the property themselves. > >Really? I thought it was not having the burden of owning a place. >Taxes never entered in my decision to rent anywhere. > >Karen Bosh. Landlords have to make enough to cover taxes and repairs; hence, they charge enough rent to include a share of taxes and repairs. Many renters, like Karen, think of ownership as a burden - maintenance, liability, grounds upkeep. Others don't expect to stay long in a location, can't come up with a downpayment, don't have the credit to get a mortgage, or come from a background that doesn't lead them to think that ownership is possible clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 09:35:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABFZN6q014254 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:35:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A21221E6019F; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:30:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F8041E600DE for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:30:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3EC59@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:22:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14418343 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:22:55 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABFMsg10744 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:22:55 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-251.gwi.net [216.195.153.251]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hABFMrAr029034 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:22:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031111102019.00bb5e58@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:23:19 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens In-Reply-To: <851115097.20031111084938@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031111094551.00ba7790@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031111094551.00ba7790@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Wow. Sure enough. I think the guy on the island build a trebuchet. I see > > there is a category for that. > >Like on Northern Exposure. >Karen Yes. Chris flung Maggie's piano and then he flung his dead friend with casket. I loved those episodes. Remember the scene at the Last Supper? Chris's dead friend is doing the dinner act. He tells everyone the meaning of life: that ole time rock'n'roll. I recently watched the episode where Chris goes off to a monastery for a retreat. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 09:43:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABFh26q014327 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:43:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B0EFA1E601D5; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:37:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E01C1E601AD for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:37:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3ECA1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:30:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14418904 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:30:34 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABFUYg12343 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:30:34 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001DCBFB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:30:33 -0500 Message-Id: <200311111530.hABFUYg12343@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:30:34 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:20:36 -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: >We lost a baby elephant this Summer - one of the first (the first?) born in >captivity - colon blockage & related problems. One of the first in what context? We have elephant births here on a regular basis - there's a colony at the Syracuse Zoo. I don't mean to say "hundreds", but one every couple of years or so. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 09:44:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABFip6q014340 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:44:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9C6AF1E601A9; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:39:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E4621E601A2 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:39:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3ECB0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:32:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14419041 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:32:22 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABFWMg12703 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:32:22 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001DCC05@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:32:21 -0500 Message-Id: <200311111532.hABFWMg12703@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:32:21 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: mcedness To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:32:18 -0500, bonniev wrote: >> > He must learn to simply sit quietly and do >> >nothing. I'm well on my way to learning and accepting that. >> >>God cannot steer a still ship. > >Hey, you're right! There's another benefit. > > >bonnie: not wanting to be steered Ah, I see that you have resolved the "obedience" dilemma thoroughly. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 09:57:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABFv26q014510 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:57:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D948A1E601AD; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:51:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 882281E601A9 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:51:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3ED03@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:44:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14420011 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:44:33 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABFiWg14628 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:44:32 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HO724702.S4G for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:38:31 -0700 From: "John Williams" To: English Language Discussion Group Message-ID: <3919c738f7d9.38f7d93919c7@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:38:31 -0700 X-Mailer: Netscape Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Paxton > You would likely be > shippedto one of the hospitals designated for indigent care. The > sad part is, > those hospitals are really feeling the strain financially and as a > result,are finding it tougher to retain - or even hire new staff > of the caliber[1] > they would prefer to. Those types of facilities usually receive > additionalmonies (other than the Fed'l gov't) from the city in > order to keep them > functioning. Making a profit is not priority #1. One (!) hospital in Phoenix (John C. Lincoln) is losing $2 million a week providing such care. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 10:10:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABGAB6q014736 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:10:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7534F1E601D5; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:04:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2838B1E601A9 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:04:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3ED5F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:57:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14420845 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:57:42 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABFvfg16542 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:57:41 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HO72Q402.Z1K for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:51:40 -0700 From: "John Williams" To: English Language Discussion Group Message-ID: <38fb1f3900d9.3900d938fb1f@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:51:40 -0700 X-Mailer: Netscape Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en Subject: Re: Trent Lott X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Theo Groothof Date: Monday, November 10, 2003 4:44 pm Subject: Re: Trent Lott > >> >> 2. During the period leading up to the U.S. attack on iraq, Iraq > >>possessed > >> >> weapons of mass destruction. > >> >> 3. Iraq's weapons of mass destruction posed a threat to the U.S. > I hope you understand that I doubt all of the above.... > Theo Bill Clinton, Al Gore, and Madeline Albright said they did. Of course, unless you doubt their veracity... JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 10:14:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABGEl6q014783 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:14:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 530BF1E601D5; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:09:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C68781E601A9 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:09:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3ED86@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:02:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14421162 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:02:18 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABG2Hg17159 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:02:17 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hABG2Ee6026325 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:02:16 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000601c3a86d$2d004580$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <1733366295.20031109203841@WordWrite.com> <1733366295.20031109203841@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031111061418.00a523e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: Passing the peace Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:02:15 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty: > I've never liked this in church. People are coughing and sneezing and then > they want to shake your hand? Worse than a common cup. > Besides that, it is a forced and awkward gesture. I hated it. (Notice the past tense) - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 11:04:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABH4X6q015212 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:04:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 581651E601E0; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:59:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9327C1E601D5 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:59:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3EF22@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:52:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14425363 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:52:02 -0500 Received: from mail46.messagelabs.com (mail46.messagelabs.com [64.125.76.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hABGq1g26963 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:52:01 -0500 Received: (qmail 10203 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2003 16:51:59 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-6.tower-46.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 11 Nov 2003 16:51:59 -0000 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FDA711E9 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:51:59 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-6.tower-46.messagelabs.com!1068569519!73108 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.13; banners=.,-,- From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Meet me in St. Louis Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:51:59 -0500 Message-ID: <000e01c3a874$1f983f90$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031111070124.00a55100@uclink.berkeley.edu> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Betty >Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 10:03 AM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Meet me in St. Louis > > >At 09:54 AM 11/11/2003 -0500, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: English Language Discussion Group >> >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Rashmi Murthy >> >Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 8:31 PM >> >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> >Subject: Meet me in St. Louis >> > >> > >> >Rita and Ana Chapman will host next year's (stateside) list event. >> > >> >I'm still holding out for Namibia. >> > >>Sounds like a plan. >> >>alec > >Might you attend, alec? Haven't seen you since MissionFest. > >Betty > Depends on many factors. alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 11:18:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABHIS6q015345 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:18:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 141DE1E601A5; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:13:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 723581E601AC for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:13:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3EFC1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:05:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14426584 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:05:56 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hABH5mg29508 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:05:49 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:05:43 PST Message-ID: <20031111170543.1275.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:05:43 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031111033000.51051.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > I'd almost forgotten that this was my assignment. > > Ok. Joe and Inez are > > a Mexican couple in their early thirties. They > are > > finding it > > impossible to make ends meet at home and to feed > > their five-year-old > > daughter, Isabel. So the three of them manage to > > sneak across the > > border to the U.S. Sam, owner of a chicken > factory, > > is delighted to > > hire both Joe and Inez at $1.50 an hour each. Joe > > becomes a > > chicken-plucker, and Inez mops chicken guts from > the > > floor of a > > different area of the plant. They are delighted > > since their combined > > income is $3 an hour, high on the hog compared to > > their earlier > > desperate situation. They rent a tiny hovel, > where > > Inez stays alone > > since at the age of five she has acquired a good > bit > > of survival sense. > > The next fall Inez reaches school age. But her > > parents aren't citizens, > > don't pay taxes, are officially non-existent. Can > > she go to public > > school? Just throwing out a few points for discussion on the above question before I have to abandon the computer for several hours. At some point in time, the parents must become extant. If Isabel is to attend public school, where is her birth certificate? She must prove that she was born and where and when. The parents must enter into the scenario somehow. She is not a mushroom. Immunizations are required for all students entering the public school system (or any school system, I'm sure). Where will Isabel receive the immunizations required? Won't it be the responsibility of the parents to provide this information to the school system? Won't documentation be required, ad who will provide it, if not the parents? Isabel has to live somewhere to be eligible to attend public school in any given school district. With whom does she live, does she live at a permanent address? Whom should be contacted in case of emergencies? It seems to me, if Isabel's parents are non-existent, they'd better sprout soon, in order to provide the required information and tangential responsibilities. Of course, in some lengthy tortuous fashion, Isabel could, I guess, become a ward of the state. In that case, the non-existent parents would abdicate all parental obligations and rights. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 11:38:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABHc36q015536 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:38:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7C02C1E601E1; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:32:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26CF71E601E0 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:32:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3F05C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:25:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14428189 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:25:33 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABHPXg00807 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:25:33 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:25:27 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77767@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Illegal Aliens Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:25:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I think one of the first via AI. >-----Original Message----- >From: Carolyn Ostrander [mailto:clostran@SYR.EDU] >Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 10:31 AM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens > > >On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:20:36 -0500, Phil Paxton > wrote: > >>We lost a baby elephant this Summer - one of the first (the >first?) born in >>captivity - colon blockage & related problems. > >One of the first in what context? We have elephant births here >on a regular >basis - there's a colony at the Syracuse Zoo. I don't mean to >say "hundreds", but one every couple of years or so. > >clo > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 11:41:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABHfc6q015594 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:41:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D9E4C1E601DF; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:36:19 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F0421E601B1 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:36:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3F06C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:29:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14428342 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:29:08 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABHT6g01276 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:29:06 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-251.gwi.net [216.195.153.251]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hABHSpGt029051; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:29:05 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031111122401.00b5be78@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:24:26 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens In-Reply-To: <200311111530.hABFUYg12343@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:30 AM 11/11/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:20:36 -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: > > >We lost a baby elephant this Summer - one of the first (the first?) born in > >captivity - colon blockage & related problems. > >One of the first in what context? We have elephant births here on a regular >basis - there's a colony at the Syracuse Zoo. I don't mean to >say "hundreds", but one every couple of years or so. Perhaps Indianapolis is a world unto itself... cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 11:41:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABHfj6q015597 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:41:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8027F1E601B1; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:36:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 192791E601A6 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:36:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001DCFBD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:29:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14428351 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:29:09 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABHT7g01281 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:29:07 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-251.gwi.net [216.195.153.251]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hABHSpGv029051; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:29:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031111122543.00b5da38@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:27:17 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens In-Reply-To: <20031111170543.1275.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031111033000.51051.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:05 AM 11/11/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > She must prove that she was born >and where and when. Absent some radical breaththroughs in cloning technology, I rather imagine that her existence is prima facie evidence of her birth. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 11:42:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABHgs6q015613 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:42:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A98761E601DF; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:37:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61E5C1E601A6 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:37:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DCFA3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:30:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14428444 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:30:24 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABHUOg01514 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:30:24 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:30:18 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77768@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Illegal Aliens Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:30:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: John Williams [mailto:williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU] >Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 10:39 AM >----- Original Message ----- >From: Phil Paxton >> You would likely be >> shippedto one of the hospitals designated for indigent care. The >> sad part is, >> those hospitals are really feeling the strain financially and as a >> result,are finding it tougher to retain - or even hire new staff >> of the caliber[1] >> they would prefer to. Those types of facilities usually receive >> additionalmonies (other than the Fed'l gov't) from the city in >> order to keep them >> functioning. Making a profit is not priority #1. > > One (!) hospital in Phoenix (John C. Lincoln) is losing $2 million >a week providing such care. Unfortunately, this is part of the problem when people berate "the system" and wonder why with our vast richness of money, knowledge, technology, etc. why it's so difficult for some people. I described how HMOs were supposed to work. If|when people go to the ER (or call an ambulance) as their primary caregiver, it's no wonder costs go sky high. If people were told, "you'll be receiving checkups every months (4? 5? 6?) to try to catch any impending problems", "Sorry, smoking is a known hazard, you'll have to stop. Here is information regarding available cessation methods. Study them carefully. Someone from the office will be calling you within the next week to answer your questions and enroll you in a program." These things are doomed to fail. Why? People want the right to do as they please but want to be kept well *in spite of it*. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 11:44:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABHiZ6q015632 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:44:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 30F831E601B1; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:39:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FE941E601A6 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:39:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3F08D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:32:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14428541 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:32:05 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABHW4g01742 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:32:04 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:31:58 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77769@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Trent Lott Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:31:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: John Williams [mailto:williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU] >Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 10:52 AM >From: Theo Groothof >Date: Monday, November 10, 2003 4:44 pm >Subject: Re: Trent Lott > >> >> >> 2. During the period leading up to the U.S. attack on >iraq, Iraq >> >>possessed >> >> >> weapons of mass destruction. >> >> >> 3. Iraq's weapons of mass destruction posed a threat >to the U.S. >> I hope you understand that I doubt all of the above.... >> Theo > >Bill Clinton, Al Gore, and Madeline Albright said they did. >Of course, unless you doubt their veracity... Clinton's veracity he didn't have sex with that woman? Gore's veracity he invented the Internet? I realize those seem trite, but on the witness stand, if you're caught in a lie, anything you say can be considered a lie by the judge|jury. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 11:46:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABHkR6q015650 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:46:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E71EA1E601B1; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:41:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B1E21E601A6 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:41:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3F07F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:33:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14428636 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:33:54 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABHXsg01920 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:33:54 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:33:48 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7776A@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Illegal Aliens Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:33:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: clyde w. voigtlander [mailto:cwv@GWI.NET] >Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 12:27 PM >At 09:05 AM 11/11/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > >> She must prove that she was born >>and where and when. > > >Absent some radical breaththroughs in cloning technology, I >rather imagine >that her existence is prima facie evidence of her birth. As I stated earlier, the need for proof WRT various types of paperwork varies so much it isn't funny. It's one thing if she's coming in to start kindergarden. It's another if she's 7 or 8 and transfering as a result of the family moving. (I'm betting most wouldn't give it a second thought) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 12:01:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABI1j6q015789 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:01:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E5E231E601E0; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:56:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8853E1E601DF for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:56:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3F0E9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:49:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14429447 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:49:16 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABHnFg03777 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:49:15 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hABHnDtS3416066 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:49:13 -0600 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:49:13 -0600 (CST) From: nam gal sips clark X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77767@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Message-ID: References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77767@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > I think one of the first via AI. The zoo here (well, the Audubon Center for Research of Endangered Species) an African wildcat in a test tube, then implanted it in a domestic cat. His name is Jazz. They then cloned Jazz, producing Ditteaux. Who's your daddy, indeed. -- at this rate, we'll soon be ass deep in African wildcats From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 12:30:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABIUh6q016090 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:30:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 880551E601EA; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:25:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 289BC1E601E5 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:25:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3F1AD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:18:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14431591 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:18:13 -0500 Received: from maple.vaxer.net (root@maple.vaxer.net [66.199.186.132]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABIICg08578 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:18:13 -0500 Received: from maple.vaxer.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maple.vaxer.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hABIHMuA022074 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:18:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (sylvar@localhost) by maple.vaxer.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id hABIHDKd023964 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:17:22 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: maple.vaxer.net: sylvar owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:17:13 -0800 (PST) From: Ben Ostrowsky To: The usual gang of meebers Subject: God and Caesar Message-ID: X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to . MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Jodi was shocked to hear that I put two dollars in the envelope for church offerings. She thought it was way low; I explained it was all I had, and sometimes I put in a five, but I was never sure exactly what most people do or what was expected. Then again, I horrified my aunt when I offered a two-dollar tip on a haircut. I usually went to a six-dollar barber and tipped one, but I knew I was at a classier place so I doubled the tip. My aunt looked at me like I'd just blown my nose with the boss's necktie, and took a few more dollars from my hand and gave them to the hairdresser. Jodi says she thought it was supposed to be a 10% tithe. If I ever give that much, I want to write a check and get a receipt for tax purposes! She thinks this is pure-dee tacky. I think it's good sense. I'm also trying to make sense of Deuteronomy 14:22-29, which seems to be saying that I should offer this tithe to God by having a fancy dinner. Which I don't object to -- I can see spending two days preparing a feast as a deliberate way to celebrate our blessings. (But I don't think I could spend 10% of my yearly income on it!) Or does this mean I should spend 10% of my income on eating out? I probably *do*. And then there's 2 Corinthians 8:10-12, which seems to be saying I shouldn't worry about how to carve out an extra 10% from my budget, but I should actually go and set up their spare computer as a web and e-mail server instead of just talking about it. I dunno; what are y'all's thoughts on all this? Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 12:32:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABIWQ6q016101 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:32:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1628E1E601EA; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:27:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F8531E601E5 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:27:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DD0FA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:19:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14431706 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:19:56 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABIJtg08864 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:19:55 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HO79B501.82D for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:13:53 -0700 From: "John Williams" To: English Language Discussion Group Message-ID: <391d30396985.396985391d30@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:13:53 -0700 X-Mailer: Netscape Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en Subject: Re: Trent Lott X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Clinton's veracity he didn't have sex with that woman? > > Gore's veracity he invented the Internet? > > I realize those seem trite, but on the witness stand, if you're > caught in a > lie, anything you say can be considered a lie by the judge|jury. Noooo, I mean the original statements. But, in a forum where anyone can state "All [nouns] are [adjectives]" without fear of rebuttal, or indeed receive approval, anything is possible. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 12:45:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABIjQ6q016199 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:45:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AB3C61E601EC; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:40:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BDE71E601E5 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:40:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3F206@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:32:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14432671 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:32:55 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABIWsg11311 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:32:55 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 22D0C2B57C; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:32:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10A672B574 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:32:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:32:49 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: God and Caesar In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > I dunno; what are y'all's thoughts on all this? I think you should put in the envelope at least as much as you spend on a movie. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 12:47:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABIlu6q016221 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:47:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 50EE71E601EC; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:42:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D36601E601E5 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:42:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3F22F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:35:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14432908 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:35:26 -0500 Received: from mail46.messagelabs.com (mail46.messagelabs.com [64.125.76.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hABIZPg11648 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:35:25 -0500 Received: (qmail 3955 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2003 18:35:24 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-2.tower-46.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 11 Nov 2003 18:35:24 -0000 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB91610A4 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:35:23 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-46.messagelabs.com!1068575724!74280 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.13; banners=.,-,- From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: God and Caesar Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:35:23 -0500 Message-ID: <000201c3a882$91a72110$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ben Ostrowsky >Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 1:17 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: God and Caesar > > >Jodi was shocked to hear that I put two dollars in the envelope for >church offerings. She thought it was way low; I explained it was all I >had, and sometimes I put in a five, but I was never sure >exactly what most people do or what was expected. > I must have missed something or assumed something, I thought you were Jewish. I would give five bucks. alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 12:56:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABIuW6q016282 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:56:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 29F9A1E601EF; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:51:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB8F31E601EE for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:51:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3F286@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:44:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14433515 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:44:02 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABIi1W13022 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:44:01 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-251.gwi.net [216.195.153.251]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hABIhvGp039657; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:44:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031111134225.00b62090@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:42:50 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: God and Caesar In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:32 AM 11/11/2003 -0800, Ann Borkin wrote: >On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > > > I dunno; what are y'all's thoughts on all this? > >I think you should put in the envelope at least as much as you spend on a >movie. What if you didn't enjoy the movie? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 13:00:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABJ0K6q016317 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:00:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E70081E601EC; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:55:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7771F1E601E5 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:55:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DD1E3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:47:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14433719 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:47:49 -0500 Received: from mail46.messagelabs.com (mail46.messagelabs.com [64.125.76.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hABIlnF14111 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:47:49 -0500 Received: (qmail 2767 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2003 18:47:47 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-13.tower-46.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 11 Nov 2003 18:47:47 -0000 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53892D20 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:47:47 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-13.tower-46.messagelabs.com!1068576467!74398 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.13; banners=.,-,- From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: God and Caesar Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:47:50 -0500 Message-ID: <000501c3a884$4edcd2b0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031111134225.00b62090@pop.gwi.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of clyde w. voigtlander >Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 1:43 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: God and Caesar > > >At 10:32 AM 11/11/2003 -0800, Ann Borkin wrote: >>On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >> > >> > I dunno; what are y'all's thoughts on all this? >> >>I think you should put in the envelope at least as much as >you spend on a >>movie. > >What if you didn't enjoy the movie? > Take money out of the collection basket. alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 13:02:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABJ2M6q016328 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:02:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BA6A21E601EE; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:57:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69DFE1E601EC for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:57:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3F2AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:49:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14433882 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:49:51 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABInpF14435 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:49:51 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hABInme6007178 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:49:49 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000a01c3a884$95530020$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031111134225.00b62090@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: Re: God and Caesar Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:49:48 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > >I think you should put in the envelope at least as much as you spend on a > >movie. > > What if you didn't enjoy the movie? > And what if you got nothing out of the sermon? I sat through some when the minister should have paid me for sitting there. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 13:04:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABJ4F6q016353 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:04:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3D5A61E601EE; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:58:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E40EE1E601E5 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:58:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3F2B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:51:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14433983 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:51:45 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hABIpiF14680 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:51:45 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:51:44 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:51:16 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: God and Caesar Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hABJ4F6q016353 Some churches call it "collection" and some churches call it "offering" If it is an offering, then the amount shouldn't matter. I always assumed that the purpose of the envelope was to keep the whole matter private anyway. brP >>> plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU 11/11/03 01:35PM >>> >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ben Ostrowsky >Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 1:17 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: God and Caesar > > >Jodi was shocked to hear that I put two dollars in the envelope for >church offerings. She thought it was way low; I explained it was all I >had, and sometimes I put in a five, but I was never sure >exactly what most people do or what was expected. > I must have missed something or assumed something, I thought you were Jewish. I would give five bucks. alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 13:18:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABJIj6q016516 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:18:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9FDEF1E601EF; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:13:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D27651E601EC for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:13:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3F2F4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:06:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14434865 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:06:13 -0500 Received: from fe1.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABJ6CY17098 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:06:13 -0500 Received: from [136.167.88.199] (HELO bc.edu) by fe1.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.5) with ESMTP id 37213575 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:06:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB13320.5060409@bc.edu> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:06:08 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: God and Caesar References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: >Some churches call it "collection" and some churches call it "offering" If it is an offering, then the amount shouldn't matter. I always assumed that the purpose of the envelope was to keep the whole matter private anyway. > >brP > > > In the couple of Catholic churches with which I was familiar, the envelope served two purposes. One was, as Paul says, to keep the amount of the offering confidential at the time it was being collected. The other was for recording each person's contributions. At the end of the year, a statement was mailed to everybody who had identified him/herself in or on the envelope. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 13:21:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABJLI6q016527 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:21:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 084291E601EF; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:15:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C431E601EC for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:15:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3F2FF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:08:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14435004 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:08:47 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hABJ8kY17371 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:08:46 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:08:45 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:08:20 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: God and Caesar Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hABJLI6q016527 If the amount in the envelope is connected to the quality of the sermon, then a LOT of churches are in a LOT of trouble. BrP >>> dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM 11/11/03 01:49PM >>> > > > >I think you should put in the envelope at least as much as you spend on a > >movie. > > What if you didn't enjoy the movie? > And what if you got nothing out of the sermon? I sat through some when the minister should have paid me for sitting there. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 13:28:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABJSm6q016578 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:28:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 984DF1E601F0; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:23:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F17F81E601EC for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:23:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3F34A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:16:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14435433 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:16:16 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hABJGGi18860 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:16:16 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:16:15 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:15:46 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: God and Caesar Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hABJSm6q016578 Yes, I remember all the boxes of preprinted envelopes spread out on tables at the back of the sanctuary and that each box had a little window that conveniently displayed next Sunday's date - so you would know if you were . I also remember the accounting at the end of the year, but as the plate came around (we always had fancy plates not baskets-on-a-stick like the Catholics did) a $100 dollar a week pledge looked exactly the same as a $1 a week one. BrP >>> leonard@BC.EDU 11/11/03 02:06PM >>> > In the couple of Catholic churches with which I was familiar, the envelope served two purposes. One was, as Paul says, to keep the amount of the offering confidential at the time it was being collected. The other was for recording each person's contributions. At the end of the year, a statement was mailed to everybody who had identified him/herself in or on the envelope. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 13:36:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABJa06q016651 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:36:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 38FC01E60206; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:30:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4E3C1E601FF for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:30:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3F381@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:23:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14435958 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:23:30 -0500 Received: from maple.vaxer.net (root@maple.vaxer.net [66.199.186.132]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABJNTP19848 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:23:29 -0500 Received: from maple.vaxer.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maple.vaxer.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hABJN7uA006431 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:23:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (sylvar@localhost) by maple.vaxer.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id hABJN6vK021885 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:23:07 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: maple.vaxer.net: sylvar owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:23:06 -0800 (PST) From: Ben Ostrowsky To: The usual gang of meebers Subject: Re: God and Caesar Message-ID: X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to . MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I must have missed something or assumed something, I thought you were > Jewish. I would give five bucks. Forgive a spiritual inventory: My parents are a Christmas Catholic and a Hanukkah Jew, although their parents are/were more observant. I think my mother does the work of a saint (social work with high school students who are most at risk of dropping out, being kicked out, or getting themselves jailed or shot) and my dad is a non-denominational Good Person who, if he thinks about it, would probably conclude that there may or may not be a God, but either way we'd better help other people down here. I went to Temple Israel (reform) occasionally, never had any coming-of-age ceremonies, and went to a Presbyterian high school youth group for boxball, snacks and the fun of arguing religion with a minister; I declared myself Christian in high school, and didn't stop seeking other true things. I don't value logical consistency per se in my religious beliefs: to paraphrase Bro. Walt, very well then, I contradict myself, God is large, God contains multitudes. I know I feel at home among reform Jews, Unitarian-Universalists, Quakers, Presbyterians, and agnostics. There are probably other traditions that would seem right to me, too. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 13:55:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABJtw6q016762 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:55:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1AA291E601FE; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:50:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 854411E601FD for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:50:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3F3E1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:43:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14437209 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:43:27 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABJhRP23241 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:43:27 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DD3A8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:43:27 -0500 Message-Id: <200311111943.hABJhRP23241@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:43:27 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: God and Caesar To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:32:49 -0800, Ann Borkin wrote: >On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >> >> I dunno; what are y'all's thoughts on all this? > >I think you should put in the envelope at least as much as you spend on a >movie. Why? Church is only half as long. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 13:56:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABJuK6q016765 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:56:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8A5701E601FF; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:51:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00CF21E601FE for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:50:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3F3F2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:43:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14437225 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:43:49 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABJhjP23293 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:43:45 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:43:39 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77772@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Illegal Aliens Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:43:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: nam gal sips clark [mailto:rjscheid@NADAL.LOYNO.EDU] >Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 12:49 PM >On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: >> I think one of the first via AI. > >The zoo here (well, the Audubon Center for >Research of Endangered Species) >an African wildcat in a test tube, then >implanted it in a domestic cat. His >name is Jazz. > >They then cloned Jazz, producing Ditteaux. > >Who's your daddy, indeed. > >-- >at this rate, we'll soon be ass deep >in African wildcats What they need to be watching for are jaguars. It was probably ten or fifteen years ago when I heard of this the first time. The gene pool (wild or domestic) is so shallow they are all capable of serving as donors for any others - they didn't go so far as to say somehow they've approached twins, clones (minus the female mitochondria, of course), etc. The concern was that it was a surprise - no one foresaw it coming and until it was tested it wasn't expected to have happened. The biggest concern is how to introduce some genetic variety, if at all possible. The other scary thought was if it happened to them, what else could it happen to? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 14:07:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABK7I6q016899 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:07:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 324881E601BB; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:01:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DB161E601FD for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:01:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3F440@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:54:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14437931 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:54:47 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABJskm25766 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:54:46 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:54:40 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77773@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: God and Caesar Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:54:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Paul Barfoot [mailto:Prbarfoo@SYR.EDU] >Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 1:51 PM >Some churches call it "collection" and some churches call it >"offering" If it is an offering, then the amount shouldn't >matter. I always assumed that the purpose of the envelope was >to keep the whole matter private anyway. It's not too private when people put checks in it. (I put cash in). As far as whether the minister owes or not, I have a hard time listening to one when I can't take notes. I don't always do that when in the presence of a orator, but for a minister, that's always been the benchmark. My favorite was one I had in high school who started there about the time I started attending. I was sitting off to the side near the front and taking notes. Afterwards, he was greeting everyone with his wife and when I got to him he remarked how nice it was for me to take notes - it was obvious he was trying to shame me for not paying attention as though I were doodling. I found that odd as I was the only member of my family at that church - I chose to be there, not my parents. Anyway, my response to him was, "Yes, you are very organized and it made notetaking very easy. I took my notes out of my Bible and pointed at a place where I missed a quote and asked if he could repeat it for me. That's when he sent me up to his notes - and I was very impressed with how organized he was. It's made it very difficult ever since that time. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 14:09:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABK9i6q016934 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:09:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9BC8F1E601FD; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:04:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 097631E601BB for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:04:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DD404@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:57:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14438008 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:57:13 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABJv5j26176 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:57:05 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:57:00 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77774@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: God and Caesar Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:56:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Karen Kay [mailto:karen@WORDWRITE.COM] >Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 2:43 PM >On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:32:49 -0800, Ann Borkin > wrote: > >>On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >>> >>> I dunno; what are y'all's thoughts on all this? >> >>I think you should put in the envelope at least as much as >you spend on a >>movie. > >Why? Church is only half as long. "A good movie is never too long." -Siskel & Ebert, in reference to "Dances with Wolves" From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 14:14:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABKEs6q016966 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:14:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 228831E601FD; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:09:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C68C1E60120 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:09:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001DD43C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:02:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14438226 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:02:22 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hABK2Lj26918 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:02:22 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:02:21 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:01:48 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: coincidence? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hABKEs6q016966 On December 21, 1988 35 Syracuse University students lost their lives in the Pan Am 103 bombing. The University, as a memorial to them, established 35 "Remembrance Scholarships" for Seniors. The scholarship winners participate in Remembrance Week events culminating with a convocation/celebration. This is remembrance Week and this year's winners have chosen, as one of their activities, to put up pictures of the 35 in various locations around campus. Today, as I was walking past the office that is now Library Security, but 15 years ago was the Reference Department office, I noticed that one of the pictures had been placed there. It is the picture of Jason Coker who, before departing for London, had been one of our work-study students in Reference. It seems unlikely to me that whoever placed that picture in that location would have known how appropriate their choice was - but I wonder. BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 14:50:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABKor6q017350 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:50:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 53E7C1E601BE; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:45:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 941BC1E601BD for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:45:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3F567@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:38:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14440999 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:38:21 -0500 Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABKcKj00458 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:38:21 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HO700KOBFZQ4T@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:38:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.80] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:33:40 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:33:40 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: No Problem To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <69151968aaf2.68aaf2691519@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Marie Ascher wrote: > > > > Have we talked about "No problem" here before? I enjoyed this > article from the New York Observer: > http://www.observer.com/pages/story.asp?ID=8120# > Why did you enjoy it? > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Oops. Dead bird. I enjoyed it because I thought it was good reading. No problem has tweaked me for a while now. Probably tied directly to one person who said it every time I asked him to do something -- and then did a crappy crappy job, but that's a whole nother thing. This article sorta hit it home. Because it's a selfish thing to say. I'm definitely making sure to be a "you're welcome" person. However, I am struck by the fact of parallels in other languages. After all isn't "de nada" pretty much the same thing. Someone says "thanks" and you say "it was nothing" -- doesn't that negate the favor? Doesn't someone have the right to say thank you and have the favor recognized? Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 15:29:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABLTO6q017805 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:29:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C74281E601C0; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:24:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D4F01E60206 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:24:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3F6A9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:16:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14443796 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:16:52 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hABLGpj06306 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:16:52 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:16:51 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:16:40 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: coincidence? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hABLTO6q017805 I know it's tacky to reply to my own message, but I have an update and an answer. I emailed the Vice Chancellor who is responsible for the Remembrance Scholar program and told her the story. She wrote back almost immediately. It WAS a coincidence ("eerie yet wonderful" was how she described it) and she not only appreciated knowing, but said that Jason's mother is planning to be here this year and that she would be sure to tell her. nice BrP >>> Prbarfoo@SYR.EDU 11/11/03 03:01PM >>> On December 21, 1988 35 Syracuse University students lost their lives in the Pan Am 103 bombing. The University, as a memorial to them, established 35 "Remembrance Scholarships" for Seniors. The scholarship winners participate in Remembrance Week events culminating with a convocation/celebration. This is remembrance Week and this year's winners have chosen, as one of their activities, to put up pictures of the 35 in various locations around campus. Today, as I was walking past the office that is now Library Security, but 15 years ago was the Reference Department office, I noticed that one of the pictures had been placed there. It is the picture of Jason Coker who, before departing for London, had been one of our work-study students in Reference. It seems unlikely to me that whoever placed that picture in that location would have known how appropriate their choice was - but I wonder. BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 15:42:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABLgU6q017922 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:42:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 497661E601C9; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:37:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA8B11E601C0 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:37:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3F731@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:29:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14444994 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:29:58 -0500 Received: from mail46.messagelabs.com (mail46.messagelabs.com [64.125.76.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hABLTtj27293 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:29:55 -0500 Received: (qmail 22248 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2003 21:29:53 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-12.tower-46.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 11 Nov 2003 21:29:53 -0000 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E357211B5 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:29:52 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-12.tower-46.messagelabs.com!1068586193!76372 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.13; banners=.,-,- From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: God and Caesar Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:29:53 -0500 Message-ID: <001201c3a89a$f206aea0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ben Ostrowsky >Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 2:23 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: God and Caesar > > >> I must have missed something or assumed something, I thought you were >> Jewish. I would give five bucks. > >Forgive a spiritual inventory: > Thanks, I was slightly confused. You answered it. alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 15:56:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABLu36q018085 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:56:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9FFCF1E6020A; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:50:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05C731E601C9 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:50:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3F796@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:43:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14445972 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:43:31 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABLhUj29499 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:43:31 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <20031111214323012007muene>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:43:23 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031111131710.04f158e8@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:42:21 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: God and Caesar In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ben Ostrowsky writes, >I dunno; what are y'all's thoughts on all this? There's two parts to this: fitting into the expectations of the folks around you, and the spiritual part. I'll just focus on the latter. Spiritually, it's not how much you give, but in what spirit you give it -- it's not an economic decision. And if you're giving in the right spirit, the more you give, the better for you -- even in an economic sense. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 15:57:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABLvL6q018110 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:57:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8F7C01E6020B; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:52:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16BD91E601C9 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:52:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3F77F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:44:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14446012 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:44:46 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hABLijj29585 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:44:45 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:44:39 PST Message-ID: <20031111214439.64643.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:44:39 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031111122543.00b5da38@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > At 09:05 AM 11/11/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > > > She must prove that she was born > >and where and when. > > > Absent some radical breaththroughs in cloning > technology, I rather imagine > that her existence is prima facie evidence of her > birth. > > cwv Try telling that to the authorities without documentation. History is rife with instances of people who have been told they do not officially exist. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 16:02:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABM296q018204 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:02:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3A2541E6020C; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:56:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4CB11E6020B for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:56:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3F7C4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:49:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14446444 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:49:34 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABLnYj30462 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:49:34 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001DD7B7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:49:34 -0500 Message-Id: <200311112149.hABLnYj30462@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:49:34 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:44:39 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >Try telling that to the authorities without >documentation. History is rife with instances of >people who have been told they do not officially >exist. My autonumbering system has been told by Word it doesn't exist. I wonder what documentation Word would accept. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 16:07:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABM7Z6q018277 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:07:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8FBC01E6020C; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:02:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2FB31E6020B for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:02:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3F7F7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:55:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14447122 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:55:03 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABLt1j31918 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:55:02 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hABLsx2f001800 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:54:59 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hABLswJC001770; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:54:58 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031111135633.00a779f0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:57:00 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: coincidence? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Very nice. I hugged two vets today so far. Betty At 04:16 PM 11/11/2003 -0500, Paul Barfoot wrote: >I know it's tacky to reply to my own message, but I have an update and an >answer. I emailed the Vice Chancellor who is responsible for the >Remembrance Scholar program and told her the story. She wrote back almost >immediately. It WAS a coincidence ("eerie yet wonderful" was how she >described it) and she not only appreciated knowing, but said that Jason's >mother is planning to be here this year and that she would be sure to tell >her. nice > >BrP > > > > > >>> Prbarfoo@SYR.EDU 11/11/03 03:01PM >>> > On December 21, 1988 35 Syracuse University students lost their lives > in the Pan Am 103 bombing. The University, as a memorial to them, > established 35 "Remembrance Scholarships" for Seniors. The scholarship > winners participate in Remembrance Week events culminating with a > convocation/celebration. This is remembrance Week and this year's > winners have chosen, as one of their activities, to put up pictures of > the 35 in various locations around campus. Today, as I was walking past > the office that is now Library Security, but 15 years ago was the > Reference Department office, I noticed that one of the pictures had been > placed there. It is the picture of Jason Coker who, before departing for > London, had been one of our work-study students in Reference. It seems > unlikely to me that whoever placed that picture in that location would > have known how appropriate their choice was - but I wonder. > >BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 16:12:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABMCl6q018366 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:12:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 133EB1E6020B; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:07:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CE7D1E6020A for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:07:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3F824@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:00:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14447575 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:00:08 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABM06j00372 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:00:06 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hABM02e6018870 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:00:03 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001901c3a89f$281d9680$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Gone at 85 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:00:01 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hABMCl6q018366 Art Carney (Ed Norton) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 16:31:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABMVC6q018580 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:31:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6A2C01E6017C; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:25:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02E561E60108 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:25:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3F91E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:18:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14448914 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:18:40 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABM8dj02496 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:08:39 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hABM7t3W003342 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:07:55 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:08:39 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: God and Caesar In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031111131710.04f158e8@mail.istori.com> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031111131710.04f158e8@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Peter Kaminski wrote: >There's two parts to this: fitting into the expectations of the folks >around you, and the spiritual part. I'll just focus on the latter. > >Spiritually, it's not how much you give, but in what spirit you give it -- >it's not an economic decision. And if you're giving in the right spirit, >the more you give, the better for you -- even in an economic sense. 1. It too me a long time to understand that ARE the church. And it costs money to run our church - particularly the outreach part of it (ministry to the homeless, etc.). AND 2. The tithe is the only standard I know - other than giving all. I am moving toward the tithe, but am not there yet. One friend of mine makes sure she gives more to the church than she spends on horsey activities. I'm about neck and neck on that one. I don't give it all to St. John's - some goes to the national church, some goes to the Abbey every month, some goes to local charities, etc. (I pledge to St. John's and to the Abbey.) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 16:48:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABMmC6q018769 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:48:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 50EBD1E60193; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:42:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A9B61E60108 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:42:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3F98A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:35:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14450624 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:35:38 -0500 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABMZbj06610 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:35:37 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1e8.12e45edd (4468) for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:35:03 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1e8.12e45edd.2ce2be16@aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:35:02 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Illegal Aliens To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/11/2003 9:23:30 AM Central Standard Time, bonniev@GWI.NET writes: << I recently watched the episode where Chris goes off to a monastery for a retreat. >> The episode had Stephen Root as the head of the monastery; just about the most "normal" character he's played; he's one of my favorite actors. I wish A&E would again show Northern Exposure. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com One day until Bennie arrives! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 16:58:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABMwo6q018881 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:58:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 888561E60193; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:53:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26C1E1E60108 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:53:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3F9DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:46:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14451446 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:46:18 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABMkIj08284 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:46:18 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.176.72]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031111224612.EADH1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:46:12 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB166B5.372B4561@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:46:13 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: REALTOR.com Listing #598675 References: <6621b9660744.6607446621b9@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > I should drive in and introduce Laszlo to you !! That would be sooo cool! But I realize that it's a busy season. Has Laszlo visited the city yet? What would he think of the doggies romping in Central Park? Would he laugh at them for getting all excited about a park when they have to go back home then on sidewalks near honking horns and up to their tenth-floor ? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 17:01:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABN1R6q018910 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:01:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 04BF31E60193; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:56:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B361C1E60108 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:56:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3F9D8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:48:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14451579 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:48:56 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABMmtj08590 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:48:55 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-251.gwi.net [216.195.153.251]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hABMmnGt080977; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:48:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031111174812.00b6f260@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:48:47 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: coincidence? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:16 PM 11/11/2003 -0500, Paul Barfoot wrote: >I know it's tacky to reply to my own message, but I have an update and an >answer. I emailed the Vice Chancellor who is responsible for the >Remembrance Scholar program and told her the story. She wrote back almost >immediately. It WAS a coincidence ("eerie yet wonderful" was how she >described it) and she not only appreciated knowing, but said that Jason's >mother is planning to be here this year and that she would be sure to tell >her. nice In this case, it's not tacky at all. It puts a nice ending to the story. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 17:02:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABN2F6q018922 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:02:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8583E1E6020B; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:56:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 406D41E60193 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:56:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3F9DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:49:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14451621 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:49:43 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABMnhj08675 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:49:43 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.176.72]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031111224938.EBOB1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:49:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB16781.8C0147AB@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:49:37 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Passing the peace References: <1733366295.20031109203841@WordWrite.com> <1733366295.20031109203841@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031111061418.00a523e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > > I've never liked this in church. People are coughing and sneezing and then > they want to shake your hand? Worse than a common cup. It's not the germs that I don't like about it. (Re the common cup, I remember looking across at my doctor kneeling six or eight people down from me one day and thinking that if he thought all this cup-sharing was ok, then it must be ok. Maybe the alcohol killed the germs.) But back to Passing the Peace. I find it disruptive and phony. It's fine to be friendly with fellow church-goers and to pass peace to them, but not in the middle of a service and not when you're . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 17:04:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABN4O6q018946 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:04:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9FF231E60193; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:59:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6995D1E60108 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:59:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3FA02@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:51:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14451725 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:51:52 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABMpqj08907 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:51:52 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-251.gwi.net [216.195.153.251]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hABMpmGp081392; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:51:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031111175027.00b6cf90@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:51:44 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: God and Caesar In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031111131710.04f158e8@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031111131710.04f158e8@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:08 PM 11/11/2003 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >1. It too Presumably---took?) me a long time to understand that ARE >the church. And it >costs money to run our church - particularly the outreach part of it >(ministry to the homeless, etc.). Wow. So you are the church in addition to being the university. Must keep you busy. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 17:05:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABN5d6q018955 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:05:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BD92B1E60193; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:00:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A5861E60108 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:00:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3F9FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:53:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14451789 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:53:07 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABMr7j09074 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:53:07 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.176.72]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031111225302.ECVS1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:53:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB1684E.257B7418@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:53:02 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Passing the peace References: <4.2.2.20031111062919.00a67a70@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > > I do want to be friendly but I just don't like this and it's not only > because of passing germs around. It totally disrupts personal worship for > me. Yes! And, as I said, there's something about doing it because the preacher just told you to. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 17:06:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABN6c6q018982 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:06:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6CC8D1E60193; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:01:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2781A1E6013E for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:01:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3F9F2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:54:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14451837 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:54:06 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABMs6j09158 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:54:06 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-251.gwi.net [216.195.153.251]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hABMs3Gp081624 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:54:05 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031111175252.00bbd6e8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:54:01 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: God and Caesar In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >my dad is a non-denominational Good Person who, if he thinks about it, >would probably conclude that there may or may not be a God, but either way >we'd better help other people down here. --Ben Now that makes a lot of sense. I think you should count your income tax, likely more than 10% of your income, as your tithe for the poor. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 17:07:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABN7K6q018985 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:07:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 698E61E6013E; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:01:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 267F81E60108 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:01:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3FA12@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:54:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14451886 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:54:48 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABMshj09240 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:54:43 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.176.72]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031111225438.EDLC1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:54:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB168AE.E2B61B5E@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:54:38 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: As seen on Craigslist References: <4.2.2.20031111062024.00a55ee0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <38022795.20031110215847@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031111062024.00a55ee0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031111063724.00a50480@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > Thanks. I was just trying to direct Natalie and looking quickly under > writing. I love Craigslist. The University uses it a lot now for job postings. Thank you for your kindness. But Karen said the name wasn't given, and it's a bad time for url-chasing -- long and busy day, lots of e-mail piled up, lots of other things I need to do tonight. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 17:10:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABNA06q019021 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:10:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1CEF71E6013E; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:04:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C66A91E60108 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:04:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3FA1A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:57:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14451975 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:57:28 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABMvRj09492 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:57:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.176.72]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031111225718.EEIO1816.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:57:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB1694E.D9023D98@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:57:18 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Passing the peace References: <1733366295.20031109203841@WordWrite.com> <1733366295.20031109203841@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031111061418.00a523e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <000601c3a86d$2d004580$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > Besides that, it is a forced and > awkward gesture. Yes! Forced and awkward are part of what I was trying to say when I said phony or insincere. > I hated it. > (Notice the past tense) You quit participating -- i.e., you shut your eyes and looked down and ignored the peace-passers around you? You started arriving late a la BB? You changed to a church that doesn't do it? You quit going to church? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 17:13:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABNDi6q019058 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:13:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 609771E6013E; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:08:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17FBD1E60193 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:08:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001DDA08@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:01:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14452525 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:01:12 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABN1Bj10003 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:01:11 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-251.gwi.net [216.195.153.251]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hABN1AGn082585 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:01:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031111180011.00bcee20@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:01:08 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Gone at 85 In-Reply-To: <001901c3a89f$281d9680$e1cadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Art Carney (Ed Norton) I hope his granddaughter who died of SIDS in 1977 at the Yale New Haven Intensive Care Nursery was there in heaven to greet her Grandpa. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 17:21:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABNLA6q019125 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:21:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 98D851E60193; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:15:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51C8F1E6013E for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:15:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3FA8A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:08:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14452921 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:08:38 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABN8cj10638 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:08:38 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.176.72]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031111230832.VJJR1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:08:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB16BEC.8E928D7D@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:08:28 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens References: <20031111170543.1275.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > If Isabel is to attend public school, where is her > birth certificate? She must prove that she was born > and where and when. The parents must enter into the > scenario somehow. She is not a mushroom. I am again reminded of the con job that a Romanian crook almost pulled off with the Starkville Public Schools a good many years ago. I've told this story before. She decided that her five-year-old daughter was large enough and smart enough that she should start to school a year earlier than was legal. When asked for a birth certificate, she told the authorities that it was destroyed in a fire and that it would take a long time to get a replacement from Romania, the place of her daughter's birth (or so she told them). So they let the child start school while waiting for the Romanian bc. After a good bit of time passed, they asked her mother about it, indicating that they had not just forgotten about the forthcoming Romanian bc. So the mother found some kind of document written in Romanian and presented it to them, thinking it unlikely that anybody in their office could read Romanian. She was right, but they called the head of the Foreign Languages Department at MSU, who was from Transylvania, and asked him whether he could read Romanian. He said no but that he knew somebody who could. That person was the crook who was trying to pull off the con job. Meanwhile, though, around that time the daughter, who of course had been told to lie about her age -- to say she was six, not five, either forgot or had failed to get the instructions about the place of her birth. One day she said something at school about how she had "popped out of [her] mother's belly in Tupelo." End of the story is that she was kicked out of school. She ended up going to Hebron Christian Academy for the rest of that year. I think it was the next year that they moved to Columbus, where I guess she went into the second grade, having a first-grade from Hebron. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 17:22:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABNM66q019133 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:22:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 92FDB1E6020B; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:16:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D5771E60193 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:16:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3FA82@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:09:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14452972 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:09:34 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABN9Yj10733 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:09:34 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hABN9Ve6012001 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:09:33 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001101c3a8a8$dd1ad080$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <1733366295.20031109203841@WordWrite.com> <1733366295.20031109203841@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031111061418.00a523e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FB16781.8C0147AB@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Passing the peace Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:09:30 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > to Passing the Peace. I find it disruptive and phony. It's fine to be > friendly with fellow church-goers and to pass peace to them, but not in > the middle of a service and not when you're . > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Amen, Sister. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 17:24:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABNOh6q019192 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:24:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 26D811E601B0; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:17:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA0901E60193 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:17:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3FA8D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:10:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14453067 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:10:22 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABNAMj10910 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:10:22 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.176.72]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031111231016.VLBS1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:10:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB16C59.9EC4F6E5@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:10:17 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens References: <20031111170543.1275.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU PS: The child wasn't an illegal alien. She was American by virtue of having an American father (who had been kicked out of the house by the time of this incident) and having been born in Tupelo. Her grandmother, who lived with them, was an illegal alien. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 17:24:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABNOi6q019196 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:24:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DE0601E601B2; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:18:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF291E60193 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:18:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3FA93@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:11:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14453118 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:11:13 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABNBCj10987 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:11:12 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hABNBAe6016231 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:11:11 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001e01c3a8a9$17b54180$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <1733366295.20031109203841@WordWrite.com> <1733366295.20031109203841@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031111061418.00a523e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <000601c3a86d$2d004580$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB1694E.D9023D98@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Passing the peace Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:11:09 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > You quit participating -- i.e., you shut your eyes and looked down and > ignored the peace-passers around you? You started arriving late a la > BB? You changed to a church that doesn't do it? You quit going to > church? > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Quit going to church. Not because of that, but because of everything. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 17:43:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABNhU6q019347 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:43:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 89C641E6011B; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:38:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 939BE1E601B0 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:38:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3FAF9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:30:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14454209 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:30:56 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABNUuj13161 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:30:56 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.176.72]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031111233051.EMWH1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:30:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB1712B.94279413@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:30:51 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: God and Caesar References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: > > Some churches call it "collection" and some churches call it "offering" The churches in my experience have called it an "offering" but used "collection plates" to gather it. > If it is an offering, then the amount shouldn't matter. I always assumed that the > purpose of the envelope was to keep the whole matter private anyway. I thought the purpose of the envelope was for those who were fulfilling a pledge made and wanted that to be noted or for those writing checks and not wanting the checks to be visible to others for one reason or another. In my church-going years I mailed checks for my pledge but tossed cash into the plates during services as -- and not in an envelope. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 17:45:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABNjX6q019354 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:45:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9E4FD1E601B0; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:40:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F5981E601B9 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:40:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3FB20@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:33:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14454315 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:33:00 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABNX0j13370 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:33:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.176.72]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031111233254.ENNT1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:32:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB171A7.2A1BA047@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:32:55 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: No Problem References: <69151968aaf2.68aaf2691519@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > However, I am struck by the fact of parallels in other languages. After all isn't "de nada" pretty much the same thing. Someone says "thanks" and you say "it was nothing" -- doesn't that negate the favor? Doesn't someone have the right to say thank you and have the favor recognized? I think you are making too much of ritualistic expressions of that kind. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 17:49:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABNnt6q019376 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:49:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E6A681E601B9; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:44:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA2501E601B0 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:44:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3FB39@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:37:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14454564 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:37:23 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABNbMj13881 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:37:22 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hABNbKk0014539 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:37:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FB17262.6090406@swbell.net> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:36:02 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Passing the peace References: <4.2.2.20031111062919.00a67a70@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FB1684E.257B7418@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Betty wrote: > >>I do want to be friendly but I just don't like this and it's not only >>because of passing germs around. It totally disrupts personal worship for >>me. >> > > Yes! And, as I said, there's something about doing it > because the preacher just told you to. I don't like The Peace, either. It aways feels unnatural and it sort of jolts me out of a very contemplative space which I then have to find a way back into for the Eucharist. We had a temp priest for awhile who moved it to after the eucharist, and it felt much better there. Sort of like a warm-up for coffee hour. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 17:53:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABNrd6q019468 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:53:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9FB7C1E601B0; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:48:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D8211E601B9 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:48:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3FB47@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:41:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14454699 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:41:05 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABNeuj14162 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:40:56 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.176.72]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031111234051.EQDP1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:40:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB17383.88C24500@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:40:51 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: coincidence? References: <4.2.2.20031111135633.00a779f0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > I hugged two vets today so far. When did Armistice Day start being called Veterans Day? (I'm sure that's easily findable on the web, but imftaotl.) I read something in my early-morning romp through news sources that said the name was changed "after World War II." Obviously. But how long after? That wording suggested "shortly after," which would make sense since it was more than just The Armistice being honored by then. But it was still called Armistice Day in my childhood, all but a couple of years of which was post-WWII. Maybe its name had officially been changed but people continued to use the old name for a while. And didn't the p.o. holiday change for a while to Mondays, like most other holidays? Why did it change back? Because of the significance of 11-11-11? Oh -- speaking of memories, I heard an ambulance siren today and realized that it wasn't updownupdownupdown -- it was wailing. But it was the box-shaped vehicle, not the hearse-shaped. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 17:54:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABNs26q019475 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:54:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C06791E601B9; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:48:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CC021E601B0 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:48:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3FB2F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:41:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14454720 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:41:20 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABNfKj14210 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:41:20 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hABNfJ2f030117 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:41:19 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hABNfHJC030093; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:41:18 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031111154244.00a6f5b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:43:19 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Passing the peace In-Reply-To: <3FB17262.6090406@swbell.net> References: <4.2.2.20031111062919.00a67a70@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FB1684E.257B7418@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:36 PM 11/11/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > I don't like The Peace, either. It aways feels unnatural and >it sort of jolts me out of a very contemplative space which >I then have to find a way back into for the Eucharist. We >had a temp priest for awhile who moved it to after the >eucharist, and it felt much better there. Sort of like a >warm-up for coffee hour. Yes, that would definitely be better. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 17:59:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hABNxl6q019542 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:59:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E5E5D1E601B9; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:54:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE91D1E601B0 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:54:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3FB4A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:47:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14455016 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:47:15 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABNlEj14835 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:47:14 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hABNlDxu011556 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:47:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FB174B2.7040904@swbell.net> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:45:54 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: God and Caesar References: <001201c3a89a$f206aea0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Here is how I do church $$ (I make the decision). I consider St. B. an important part of my life. It serves a number of purposes, not the least being I have a priest who has to listen to me when I'm nutting out, a Sunday School to send Ana to (where she has many friends), and a contemplative space at my disposal. I think of it as a duty to support that resource. I also think of it as a duty to support the various charities St. B. is involved in. I don't tithe, but we do pledge a significant amount of money. We pledge rather than just toss in money so that the financial officer may make a budget to run St. B. I then try to run a little over pledge every year. I receive a record of how much we've donated, and I claim it on my taxes. That way Caesar gives a little to God, too (the money that comes back goes into the offering or to Episcopal City Mission, my favorite charity). -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 18:06:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAC0626q019618 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:06:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 887BC1E601CF; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:00:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B1941E601B9 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:00:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3FB6D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:53:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14455229 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:53:27 -0500 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.99]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABNrRj15406 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:53:27 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1e8.12e60c6d (2519) for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:53:08 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1e8.12e60c6d.2ce2d063@aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:53:07 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] coincidence? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/11/2003 5:41:30 PM Central Standard Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << And didn't the p.o. holiday change for a while to Mondays, like most other holidays? Why did it change back? Because of the significance of 11-11-11? >> Yes, it changed to Monday and changed back because veterans' groups demanded it to honor the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month of 1918. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com One day until Bennie arrives! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 18:12:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAC0C46q019676 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:12:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A9AD71E6020C; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:06:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C8A01E601CF for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:06:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3FB93@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:59:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14455516 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:59:31 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABNxVj16084 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:59:31 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-251.gwi.net [216.195.153.251]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hABNxSGp091486; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:59:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031111185857.00b705d0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:59:23 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens In-Reply-To: References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77767@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77767@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:49 AM 11/11/2003 -0600, nam gal sips clark wrote: >at this rate, we'll soon be ass deep >in African wildcats so? Watch your back. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 18:15:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAC0F86q019721 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:15:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B7B7E1E601CF; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:09:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C0E11E601B9 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:09:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001DDBC1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:02:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14455209 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:02:35 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABNqZj15351 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:52:35 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hABNpi3W031170 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:51:51 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:52:28 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Passing the peace In-Reply-To: <3FB16781.8C0147AB@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <1733366295.20031109203841@WordWrite.com> <1733366295.20031109203841@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031111061418.00a523e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FB16781.8C0147AB@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >ok, then it must be ok. Maybe the alcohol killed the germs.) But back >to Passing the Peace. I find it disruptive and phony. It's fine to be >friendly with fellow church-goers and to pass peace to them, but not in >the middle of a service and not when you're . In the Episcopal church, it is not so much in "the middle of a service" as between the two rather different parts of the service: "There are two parts to the Eucharist which we should keep in mind as we experience the service. The first is "the Word of God," sometimes called the Ante-Communion ("ante" means "before"). This includes (1) the opening prayers, (2) lessons from the Old and New Testaments appointed for the day, (3) the Church's statement of faith, the Nicene Creed, and (4) the intercessions or the prayers of the people. The second part of the Eucharist is called the Holy Communion during which bread and wine are offered, consecrated or set apart, and then received by God's people with thanksgiving." Also "THE PASSING THE PEACE is a very ancient way for people to greet one another. Jesus taught us that we should love one another as sisters and brothers, and that we should forgive one another as God forgives us." Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 18:45:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAC0jc6q020053 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:45:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C4BF81E6020C; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:40:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 913DB1E601CF for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:40:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3FBFF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:33:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14456776 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:33:06 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAC0X5j19315 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:33:05 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAC0X4k0011450 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:33:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FB17F6E.2060909@swbell.net> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:31:42 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Passing the peace References: <1733366295.20031109203841@WordWrite.com> <1733366295.20031109203841@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031111061418.00a523e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FB16781.8C0147AB@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >>ok, then it must be ok. Maybe the alcohol killed the germs.) But back >>to Passing the Peace. I find it disruptive and phony. It's fine to be >>friendly with fellow church-goers and to pass peace to them, but not in >>the middle of a service and not when you're . >> > > In the Episcopal church, it is not so much in "the middle of a service" as > between the two rather different parts of the service: > > "There are two parts to the Eucharist which we should keep in mind as we > experience the service. The first is "the Word of God," sometimes called > the Ante-Communion ("ante" means "before"). This includes (1) the opening > prayers, (2) lessons from the Old and New Testaments appointed for the > day, (3) the Church's statement of faith, the Nicene Creed, and (4) the > intercessions or the prayers of the people. The second part of the > Eucharist is called the Holy Communion during which bread and wine are > offered, consecrated or set apart, and then received by God's people with > thanksgiving." > > Also "THE PASSING THE PEACE is a very ancient way for people to greet one > another. Jesus taught us that we should love one another as sisters and > brothers, and that we should forgive one another as God forgives us." Yeah, but I expect he didn't mean for it to be a an annoying ritual. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 18:54:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAC0so6q020169 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:54:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 531881E6020C; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:49:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1150D1E601CF for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:49:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3FC28@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:42:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14457205 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:42:17 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAC0gHj20222 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:42:17 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAC0gCvi029049 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:42:14 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:43:00 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <292369180.20031111184300@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: God and Caesar In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, November 11, 2003, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > Jodi was shocked to hear that I put two dollars in the envelope for > church offerings. She thought it was way low; I explained it was all I > had, and sometimes I put in a five, but I was never sure exactly what most > people do or what was expected. Do you go to this church all the time? I don't put in anything, but that's because of lack of funds. I think $5-10 would be normal. > Then again, I horrified my aunt when I offered a two-dollar tip on a > haircut. I usually went to a six-dollar barber and tipped one, but I knew > I was at a classier place so I doubled the tip. My aunt looked at me like > I'd just blown my nose with the boss's necktie, and took a few more > dollars from my hand and gave them to the hairdresser. How much was the haircut? > And then there's 2 Corinthians 8:10-12, which seems to be saying I > shouldn't worry about how to carve out an extra 10% from my budget, but I > should actually go and set up their spare computer as a web and e-mail > server instead of just talking about it. > I dunno; what are y'all's thoughts on all this? I think setting up their spare computer as a web and e-mail server is the way to go. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 19:01:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAC1196q020260 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:01:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C5D261E601CF; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:55:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8733E1E601C4 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:55:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3FC37@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:48:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14457537 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:48:36 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAC0maj20983 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:48:36 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAC0mYW1025872 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:48:35 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAC0mXWq025835; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:48:34 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031111164603.00a79750@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:50:35 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: God and Caesar In-Reply-To: <292369180.20031111184300@WordWrite.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:43 PM 11/11/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Tuesday, November 11, 2003, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > Jodi was shocked to hear that I put two dollars in the envelope for > > church offerings. She thought it was way low; I explained it was all I > > had, and sometimes I put in a five, but I was never sure exactly what most > > people do or what was expected. > >Do you go to this church all the time? > >I don't put in anything, but that's because of lack of funds. I think >$5-10 would be normal. The church would not have much of an operating budget if most of the people only put in $5-10. All I'm saying is that that amount is probably not "normal" but a fine amount for some. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 19:15:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAC1Fk6q020417 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:15:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ECE191E601CF; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:10:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B93771E601C7 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:10:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3FC93@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:03:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14458292 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:03:12 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAC13Bj22305 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:03:11 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAC138vi017066 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:03:09 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:03:56 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1265355529.20031111190356@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: God and Caesar In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031111164603.00a79750@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <4.2.2.20031111164603.00a79750@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, November 11, 2003, Betty wrote: > The church would not have much of an operating budget if most of the people > only put in $5-10. All I'm saying is that that amount is probably not > "normal" but a fine amount for some. I have no idea how much people put into our basket; our operating budget is miniscule, though. Far less than my own operating budget. And they have more money in the bank than I do, too. Maybe I should just declare myself The Church of Karen. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 19:27:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAC1Rq6q020518 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:27:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 24E3D1E601CC; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:22:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2C9E1E601C4 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:22:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3FCB0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:15:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14458593 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:15:18 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f62.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.62]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAC1FIj23009 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:15:18 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:15:08 -0800 Received: from 149.160.22.98 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 01:15:08 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.22.98] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: and just one more Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:15:08 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Nov 2003 01:15:08.0729 (UTC) FILETIME=[69B3F290:01C3A8BA] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Not everyone likes this, I know, but bear with me for just one more example: > Report from Week 517, in which you were asked to come up with a line to >be >secretly inserted into George W. Bush's teleprompter for his next State of >the >Union message. > > Third Runner-Up: And now if we'll bow our heads for a moment of silence >on >the loss of Uday and Qusay . . . (Lisa M. Greenhill, Washington) > > Second Runner-Up: Like most college men, I did "experiment" with >homosexuality . . (Chuck Smith, Woodbridge) > > First Runner-Up: America is built on the hard work of nonprofit >organizations, so I would like to pay tribute to just one representative >group: >the Pleasant Valley Pheasant Pluckers. (Bill Spencer, Exeter, N.H.) > > And the winner of the dartboard from the "Keen Eddie" TV show: "Green >Dodge >Caravan, Virginia plates, your lights are on." (Craig A. Zimmerman, >Manassas) > > Honorable Mentions: > > Good night, and may God damn the United States of America. > > (Ben Aronin, Pasadena, Calif.) > > I'm about to appoint an ambassador to Bimini; what am I bid? > > (Russell Beland, Springfield) > > Members of Congress, there are going to be some changes made because >this >building is now surrounded by special forces loyal only to me. > > (Russell Beland, Springfield) > > I'd like to recognize some special people we have here as guests >tonight, and >what do you know, they all happen to be minority types! (Russell Beland, >Springfield). > > Seriously, you're a great crowd. So, where you from? Anybody from >Lubbock? >(Russell Beland, Springfield) > > In addition to an Axis of Evil, I have also found an Axis of >Unsavoriness, >and even an Axis of Generally Poor Manners. (Russell Beland, Springfield) > > I have not had impure thoughts about any woman, at all, at any time, and >you >know I'm telling the truth because if I wasn't, I'd have a big goofy smirk >on my >face. > > (Roger and Pam Dalrymple, > > Gettysburg, Pa.) > > Some have asked if my tie is too tight, others have questioned my >amphetamine >psychosis . . . > > (Don Jernigan, Shreveport, La.) > > I think of Hillary at the strangest times. (Don Duggan, Bethesda) > > I shall make it my duty to eat a kitten for breakfast every day. > > (Marc Leibert, New York) > > This State of the Union speech has been brought to you by Mirror Image >Teleprompters Inc., purveyors of the most reliable public speaking >equipment >available today. > > (Joshua Kaplowitz, Alexandria) > > I repeat my promise to personally pay for the college education of every >American citizen who cannot afford it. (Tom Kreitzberg, Silver Spring) > > In answer to my critics, I know you are, but what am I? > > (Chuck Smith, Woodbridge) > > And so I offer my resignation as president of the United States, >effective >immediately. (Richard Cheney, Washington) > > (Joseph Romm, Washington) > > I'm being held hostage in a White House speech-writing sweatshop -- >please >help me. > > (Martin Schulman, Herndon) > > And tonight I am departing from the usual format by asking that you not >interrupt me with those annoying rounds of contrived applause (wait for >applause.) > > (Robin D. Grove, Pasadena, Md.) > > I wish to announce my conversion to Islam. (Stephen Dudzik, Olney) > > What's all the whining about unemployment? All MY friends have jobs. >(Art >Grinath, Takoma Park) > > If I felt that even one American was dissatisfied with the way I am >running >this country, I would resign immediately. > > (Seth Brown, Williamstown, Mass.) > > Global warming can be reversed if everyone just turned his air >conditioner >around. > > (Jonathan Paul, Garrett Park) > > Anyone who disagrees is welcome to come up here now and speak his piece. > > (Seth Brown, Williamstown, Mass.) > > But you didn't come here to listen to me blather about security and >slowly >take away all of your freedoms in the name of protecting them. > > (Seth Brown, Williamstown, Mass.) > > Nod your head and look serious, then smile before saying the next >sentence. > > (Larry Phillips, Falls Church) > > Tonight, we salute three heroines of the Iraqi war: Ima Lyonson, Uffa >Beech, >and Ivana Runnagen. > > (Charles Koelbel, Houston) > > In addition to finding out about their uranium, we also have credible >evidence that it was Iraq who let the dogs out. (Brendan Beary, Great >Mills) > > Senator Kennedy, is something funny? Perhaps you'd like to share it with >the >rest of the room. > > (Brendan Beary, Great Mills) > >LOAD-DATE: August 31, 2003 > _________________________________________________________________ Compare high-speed Internet plans, starting at $26.95. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 20:26:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAC2QN6q021135 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:26:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 88BB41E60232; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:21:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A5961E6022B for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:21:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001DE139@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:13:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14461138 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:13:50 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAC2Doj28746 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:13:50 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.176.72]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031112021344.GOMS1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:13:44 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB19759.3660E97B@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:13:45 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Letter from Cat to Dog Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dear Dog- I am so sorry about your being sent to the dog pound for the broken lamp you didn't break, the fish you didn't steal from the kitchen, the carpet you didn't wet, and the wall you didn't get dirty with red paint. Things here at the house are calmer now, and just to show you that I have no hard feelings toward you, I am sending you a picture, so you will always remember me. Best regards, The Cat http://www.maynor.net/Temp/cat.jpg -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 20:31:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAC2V66q021144 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:31:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F17ED1E6022B; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:25:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B67311E601D2 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:25:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3FDB7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:18:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14461325 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:18:32 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAC2IRj29135 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:18:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.176.72]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031112021822.GQBG1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:18:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB1986F.A82F5D60@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:18:23 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: 1954 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thanks to a kind Wordsler, I have the answer: ******* 1954: On June 1, President Eisenhower signs legislation changing the name of the legal holiday from Armistice Day to Veteran’s Day. ******* So it makes sense that it was still called Armistice Day in my childhood -- since that's what its name still was. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 20:31:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAC2VG6q021148 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:31:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BD7DE1E60239; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:25:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 901AF1E6022B for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:25:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3FDB8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:18:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14461329 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:18:43 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAC2Igj29142 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:18:42 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-251.gwi.net [216.195.153.251]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAC2IbAx043329; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:18:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031111211808.00b8f498@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:18:35 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Letter from Cat to Dog In-Reply-To: <3FB19759.3660E97B@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:13 PM 11/11/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Dear Dog- Yeah, that sort of captures it.... cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 20:33:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAC2X26q021169 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:33:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 783B71E601D2; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:27:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB6F1E6022B for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:27:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3FDAD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:20:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14461352 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:19:41 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAC2Jfj29217 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:19:41 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:19:35 PST Message-ID: <20031112021935.82988.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:19:35 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: God and Caesar To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > Jodi was shocked to hear that I put two dollars in > the envelope for > church offerings. She thought it was way low; I > explained it was all I > had, and sometimes I put in a five, but I was never > sure exactly what most > people do or what was expected. > > Then again, I horrified my aunt when I offered a > two-dollar tip on a > haircut. I usually went to a six-dollar barber and > tipped one, but I knew > I was at a classier place so I doubled the tip. My > aunt looked at me like > I'd just blown my nose with the boss's necktie, and > took a few more > dollars from my hand and gave them to the > hairdresser. > > Jodi says she thought it was supposed to be a 10% > tithe. If I ever give > that much, I want to write a check and get a receipt > for tax purposes! > She thinks this is pure-dee tacky. I think it's > good sense. > > I'm also trying to make sense of Deuteronomy > 14:22-29, which seems to be > saying that I should offer this tithe to God by > having a fancy dinner. > Which I don't object to -- I can see spending two > days preparing a feast > as a deliberate way to celebrate our blessings. > (But I don't think I > could spend 10% of my yearly income on it!) Or does > this mean I should > spend 10% of my income on eating out? I probably > *do*. > > And then there's 2 Corinthians 8:10-12, which seems > to be saying I > shouldn't worry about how to carve out an extra 10% > from my budget, but I > should actually go and set up their spare computer > as a web and e-mail > server instead of just talking about it. > > I dunno; what are y'all's thoughts on all this? > > Ben To me, tithing always means 10%, but applies to a long-term commitment from an income to the church. I never have thought of tithing in terms of collection plates. The subject of tipping can instigate small, localized wars. If the service is really good, I tip 20%. I have a reputation among my family and friends as a liberal tipper. Biblical references, unlike Caesar's wife, can be all things to all men. At the moment, I regard them as dangerous waters. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 20:40:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAC2el6q021270 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:40:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D2C861E6023B; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:35:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95E481E60239 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:35:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3FDD9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:28:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14461657 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:28:10 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAC2SAj30054 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:28:10 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:28:04 PST Message-ID: <20031112022804.12263.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:28:04 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: octopuses get erections To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <11c.27f4361a.2ce1f3fe@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Theo Groothof wrote: > In a message dated 11/10/2003 11:35:00 PM, > lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: > >>>> You sure you're not confusing money and sex?!:) > >>>> Karen > >>Especially in the case of old ladies. > --------- > Hey, speak for yourself please! And for whom else would I speak? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 20:47:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAC2ll6q021334 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:47:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 086FF1E60230; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:42:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22C941E60213 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:42:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3FDEC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:35:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14461590 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:35:12 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAC2PCj29801 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:25:12 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAC2OR3W032331 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:24:28 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:25:11 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Letter from Cat to Dog In-Reply-To: <3FB19759.3660E97B@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FB19759.3660E97B@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Your best yet, O Mississippi woman! LOL! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 20:56:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAC2uE6q021456 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:56:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7494B1E6022B; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:50:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44C091E60213 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:50:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3FE1B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:43:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14462245 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:43:41 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAC2hfj31304 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:43:41 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:43:35 PST Message-ID: <20031112024335.87951.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:43:35 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: coincidence? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Paul Barfoot wrote: I noticed that one > of the pictures had been placed there. It is the > picture of Jason Coker who, before departing for > London, had been one of our work-study students in > Reference. It seems unlikely to me that whoever > placed that picture in that location would have > known how appropriate their choice was - but I > wonder. I am a sucker for the unlikely combination of research, historical perspective and sentiment. It's possible there are others. But, then again, it could be... __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 21:01:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAC31E6q021485 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:01:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 32E931E601E6; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:55:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C701E601DA for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:55:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001DE1C4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:48:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14462451 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:48:41 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAC2mej31786 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:48:40 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:48:35 PST Message-ID: <20031112024835.18011.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:48:35 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1e8.12e45edd.2ce2be16@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > I wish A&E would again show Northern Exposure. Yes, and another good quirky series, Due South. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 21:10:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAC3Av6q021578 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:10:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3B15F1E601E6; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:05:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 015031E601DA for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:05:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3FE3C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:58:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14462754 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:58:24 -0500 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAC2wNj32483 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:58:24 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.124.278e0d40 (3948) for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:58:09 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <124.278e0d40.2ce2fbc1@aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:58:09 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Illegal Aliens To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/11/2003 8:49:00 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > I wish A&E would again show Northern Exposure. Yes, and another good quirky series, Due South. >> Which Ray do you prefer? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com One day until Bennie arrives! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 21:11:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAC3BR6q021583 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:11:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D39AA1E601E6; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:06:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F8D61E601DA for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:06:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3FE3F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:58:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14462776 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:58:54 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAC2wrj32534 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:58:53 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:58:48 PST Message-ID: <20031112025848.97453.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:58:48 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: No Problem To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FB171A7.2A1BA047@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > I think you are making too much of ritualistic > expressions of that > kind. T.S. might have observed that the expression "No problem" did not originate with Buffy, as popularly accepted, but with ALF. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 21:20:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAC3Ko6q021660 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:20:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 931B61E601DA; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:15:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 623071E60189 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:15:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3FE7D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:08:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14463434 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:08:16 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAC38Gj01073 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:08:16 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:08:10 PST Message-ID: <20031112030810.95082.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:08:10 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031111085823.00b2b790@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: I > love the fact that the > kids are taught how to knit, starting with making > their own knitting > needles. I think it's great that there is a segment > on trail building. I > applaud the fact that seventh graders all get laptop > computers with > wireless access, computers which they are allowed to > take home at night. I > am amused and pleased that for Halloween the kids > had a lesson in the > catapult. A guy on the island built a medieval > catapult. He threw a > pumpkin and the kids measured distance and did some > calculations. I feel > that my property taxes are well spent. > > > bonnie You are a good and pensive citizen. I only wish some other school systems would take a look at some of the instruction offered here, very creative and stimulating. Maybe one day we will substitute micreants for pumpkins. How is that for enlightenment? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 21:24:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAC3OL6q021677 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:24:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1FF6D1E60239; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:18:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E58F31E601DA for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:18:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3FEA3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:11:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14463564 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:11:48 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAC3Bmj01341 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:11:48 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:11:42 PST Message-ID: <20031112031142.21407.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:11:42 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Espanillegal To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031111090635.00b49ca8@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: > If people rent for that reason, it's the same reason > that people join > Christmas Clubs. Same > thing with renting vs. > owning. The tax is included in the rent you must > pay. You don't have to > come up with an annual, or semi-annual, property tax > payment. Of course, > if you have a high enough mortgage, the lending > company acts like a > Christmas Club and makes you pay them monthly. They > hold your funds in > escrow. They see to it themselves that the house is > not lost to the > property tax people. The number of people who do not have that kind of self-discipline is the majority. If this were not so, we would not have Social Security. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 21:38:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAC3c66q021833 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:38:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 49C231E60249; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:32:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B3BA1E6023B for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:32:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3FEC5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:25:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14464015 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:25:32 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAC3PWj02394 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:25:32 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:25:27 PST Message-ID: <20031112032527.52217.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:25:27 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Espanillegal To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200311111521.hABFL7g10191@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Bosh. Landlords have to make enough to cover taxes > and repairs; hence, > they charge enough rent to include a share of taxes > and repairs. Many > renters, like Karen, think of ownership as a burden > - maintenance, > liability, grounds upkeep. Others don't expect to > stay long in a location, > can't come up with a downpayment, don't have the > credit to get a mortgage, > or come from a background that doesn't lead them to > think that ownership is > possible Okay, so renters are like Christmas Club members. Your point, clo, is made, as are those of the others. So property owners and renters pay school taxes. Should they all take a vote and let mem out of paying his school taxes? I think that's where all of this started. (Illegal alien school children? Oh, what a tangled thread we weave.) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 21:39:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAC3dP6q021836 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:39:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EB8F81E6023B; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:34:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD0011E601D9 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:34:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3FEC8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:26:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14464054 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:26:52 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAC3Qpj02469 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:26:51 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.176.72]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031112032646.RXFO1847.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:26:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB1A877.2F34EBD2@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:26:47 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Espanillegal References: <20031112031142.21407.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > The number of people who do not have that kind of > self-discipline is the majority. If this were not so, > we would not have Social Security. I don't see ss as the same thing. I think I've got plenty of self-discipline re finances, but I like the idea of paying while working for older generations and then having my turn (to oversimlify). Or put another way, you know when xmas is coming, so why not just save the money yourself for xmas shopping. But you don't know when you're going to die. And you don't know what markets etc. are going to do. It's the same reason I wouldn't want my retirement money (as in pension) to be based on market ups and downs. I like that it's predictable and will continue until I die. This might not make sense. I'm sleepy. Got up at 4:00 because I had a bunch to get done before leaving for campus at 6:45. Oh -- forgot to report the big campus news. THE WHITE DOG IS BACK. According to one of my students, the people who adopted him "let him out." I asked whether it was intentional, and she said she didn't know. So people are trying to catch him again to return him to the shelter to be adopted by somebody more reliable. I wonder whether the adopter planned it that way -- adopted him with the intention of returning him to campus to be The Campus Dog. But I must go to bed now. I dreamed about Bernardykins a couple of nights ago. Maybe I will again. Or maybe I'll dream about Spencer and his well ears. The vet today said they look fine. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 21:39:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAC3du6q021850 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:39:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 08BC61E6023B; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:34:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C932D1E601D9 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:34:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3FEBD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:27:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14464079 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:27:23 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAC3RNj02525 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:27:23 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:27:17 PST Message-ID: <20031112032717.8831.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:27:17 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031111102019.00bb5e58@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: I > recently watched the > episode where Chris goes off to a monastery for a > retreat. And that's where he first met Bethany. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 21:49:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAC3nl6q021982 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:49:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A414E1E60260; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:44:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 742EB1E6024B for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:44:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3FEF4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:37:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14464384 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:37:13 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAC3bDj03273 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:37:13 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:37:08 PST Message-ID: <20031112033708.72180.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:37:08 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: God and Caesar To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1265355529.20031111190356@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > And they have more money in the bank than I do, too. > Maybe I should > just declare myself The Church of Karen. It is inevitable. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 21:50:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAC3o66q021996 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:50:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 747A11E6024B; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:44:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44DBD1E6023B for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:44:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A3FEF5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:37:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14464400 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:37:32 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAC3bWj03295 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:37:32 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAC3bUeO021973 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:37:30 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-240-11-178.client.attbi.com [12.240.11.178]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAC3bTa2021951; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:37:29 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031111193850.00a7b490@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:39:30 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Espanillegal In-Reply-To: <20031112032527.52217.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> References: <200311111521.hABFL7g10191@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:25 PM 11/11/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > Bosh. Landlords have to make enough to cover taxes > > and repairs; hence, > > they charge enough rent to include a share of taxes > > and repairs. Many > > renters, like Karen, think of ownership as a burden > > - maintenance, > > liability, grounds upkeep. Others don't expect to > > stay long in a location, > > can't come up with a downpayment, don't have the > > credit to get a mortgage, > > or come from a background that doesn't lead them to > > think that ownership is > > possible > >Okay, so renters are like Christmas Club members. >Your point, clo, is made, as are those of the others. >So property owners and renters pay school taxes. >Should they all take a vote and let mem out of paying >his school taxes? I think that's where all of this >started. (Illegal alien school children? Oh, what a >tangled thread we weave.) mem doesn't mind paying. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 21:53:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAC3rK6q022051 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:53:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 396C31E6024B; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:47:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0A691E6023B for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:47:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3FEEB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:40:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14464448 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:40:37 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAC3ebj03471 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:40:37 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:40:31 PST Message-ID: <20031112034031.2584.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:40:31 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: and just one more To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Marty Rosen wrote: > Not everyone likes this, I know, but bear with me > for just one more example: Sort of like Elton John or Alabama-Auburn jokes. > > > Report from Week 517, in which you were asked to > come up with a line to > >be > >secretly inserted into George W. Bush's > teleprompter for his next State of > >the > >Union message. > > > > Third Runner-Up: And now if we'll bow our heads > for a moment of silence > >on > >the loss of Uday and Qusay . . . (Lisa M. > Greenhill, Washington) > > > > Second Runner-Up: Like most college men, I did > "experiment" with > >homosexuality . . (Chuck Smith, Woodbridge) > > > > First Runner-Up: America is built on the hard > work of nonprofit > >organizations, so I would like to pay tribute to > just one representative > >group: > >the Pleasant Valley Pheasant Pluckers. (Bill > Spencer, Exeter, N.H.) > > > > And the winner of the dartboard from the "Keen > Eddie" TV show: "Green > >Dodge > >Caravan, Virginia plates, your lights are on." > (Craig A. Zimmerman, > >Manassas) > > > > Honorable Mentions: > > > > Good night, and may God damn the United States > of America. > > > > (Ben Aronin, Pasadena, Calif.) > > > > I'm about to appoint an ambassador to Bimini; > what am I bid? > > > > (Russell Beland, Springfield) > > > > Members of Congress, there are going to be some > changes made because > >this > >building is now surrounded by special forces loyal > only to me. > > > > (Russell Beland, Springfield) > > > > I'd like to recognize some special people we > have here as guests > >tonight, and > >what do you know, they all happen to be minority > types! (Russell Beland, > >Springfield). > > > > Seriously, you're a great crowd. So, where you > from? Anybody from > >Lubbock? > >(Russell Beland, Springfield) > > > > In addition to an Axis of Evil, I have also > found an Axis of > >Unsavoriness, > >and even an Axis of Generally Poor Manners. > (Russell Beland, Springfield) > > > > I have not had impure thoughts about any woman, > at all, at any time, and > >you > >know I'm telling the truth because if I wasn't, I'd > have a big goofy smirk > >on my > >face. > > > > (Roger and Pam Dalrymple, > > > > Gettysburg, Pa.) > > > > Some have asked if my tie is too tight, others > have questioned my > >amphetamine > >psychosis . . . > > > > (Don Jernigan, Shreveport, La.) > > > > I think of Hillary at the strangest times. (Don > Duggan, Bethesda) > > > > I shall make it my duty to eat a kitten for > breakfast every day. > > > > (Marc Leibert, New York) > > > > This State of the Union speech has been brought > to you by Mirror Image > >Teleprompters Inc., purveyors of the most reliable > public speaking > >equipment > >available today. > > > > (Joshua Kaplowitz, Alexandria) > > > > I repeat my promise to personally pay for the > college education of every > >American citizen who cannot afford it. (Tom > Kreitzberg, Silver Spring) > > > > In answer to my critics, I know you are, but > what am I? > > > > (Chuck Smith, Woodbridge) > > > > And so I offer my resignation as president of > the United States, > >effective > >immediately. (Richard Cheney, Washington) > > > > (Joseph Romm, Washington) > > > > I'm being held hostage in a White House > speech-writing sweatshop -- > >please > >help me. > > > > (Martin Schulman, Herndon) > > > > And tonight I am departing from the usual format > by asking that you not > >interrupt me with those annoying rounds of > contrived applause (wait for > >applause.) > > > > (Robin D. Grove, Pasadena, Md.) > > > > I wish to announce my conversion to Islam. > (Stephen Dudzik, Olney) > > > > What's all the whining about unemployment? All > MY friends have jobs. > >(Art > >Grinath, Takoma Park) > > > > If I felt that even one American was > dissatisfied with the way I am > >running > >this country, I would resign immediately. > > > > (Seth Brown, Williamstown, Mass.) > > > > Global warming can be reversed if everyone just > turned his air > >conditioner > >around. > > > > (Jonathan Paul, Garrett Park) > > > > Anyone who disagrees is welcome to come up here > now and speak his piece. > > > > (Seth Brown, Williamstown, Mass.) > > > > But you didn't come here to listen to me blather > about security and > >slowly > >take away all of your freedoms in the name of > protecting them. > > > > (Seth Brown, Williamstown, Mass.) > > > > Nod your head and look serious, then smile > before saying the next > >sentence. > > > > (Larry Phillips, Falls Church) > > > > Tonight, we salute three heroines of the Iraqi > war: Ima Lyonson, Uffa > >Beech, > >and Ivana Runnagen. > > > > (Charles Koelbel, Houston) > > > > In addition to finding out about their uranium, > we also have credible > >evidence that it was Iraq who let the dogs out. > (Brendan Beary, Great > >Mills) > > > > Senator Kennedy, is something funny? Perhaps > you'd like to share it with > >the > >rest of the room. > > > > (Brendan Beary, Great Mills) > > > >LOAD-DATE: August 31, 2003 > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Compare high-speed Internet plans, starting at > $26.95. > https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by > service area.) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 22:00:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAC4016q022120 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:00:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5607B1E6024B; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:54:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 167C91E6023B for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:54:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A3FF0F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:47:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14464777 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:47:27 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAC3lRj04206 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:47:27 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:47:21 PST Message-ID: <20031112034721.7454.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:47:21 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <124.278e0d40.2ce2fbc1@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > Yes, and another good quirky series, Due South. > >> > > Which Ray do you prefer? I was terribly disappointed in the second Ray, at first, but I came to like him. Their explanation for the sometime co-existence of the two Rays was bizarre. I sometimes see the second Ray in other things, but never the first. I thought Ben Gross in the lead was beauuutiful! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 22:06:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAC4606q022214 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:06:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A3FF27@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:53:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14465101 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:53:03 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAC3r3j04614 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:53:03 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 0BFCE2B8F9; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:53:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0DEB2B8EE for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:53:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:53:02 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: nomail again Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bye for now. Happy tipping and tithing. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 22:21:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAC4LW6q022408 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:21:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 110D11E602A7; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:16:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D36A91E6028B for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:16:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4018A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 23:08:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14469748 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 23:08:58 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAC48vj07851 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 23:08:57 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hAC48uSf015172 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:08:57 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:09:44 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1741414252.20031111220944@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: nomail again In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, November 11, 2003, Ann Borkin wrote: > bye for now. Happy tipping and tithing. I misread the subject header as 'normal again' and wondered what made Ann Borkin that way. I was delighted to discover that it's merely my eyes that are the problem. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 22:22:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAC4Md6q022427 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:22:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 070451E60246; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:17:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C911F1E601E7 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:17:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A40192@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 23:10:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14469833 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 23:10:05 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAC4A4j08006 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 23:10:04 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:09:59 PST Message-ID: <20031112040959.82623.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:09:59 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Espanillegal To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FB1A877.2F34EBD2@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Oh -- forgot to report the big campus news. THE > WHITE DOG IS BACK. > According to one of my students, the people who > adopted him "let him > out." I asked whether it was intentional, and she > said she didn't > know. So people are trying to catch him again to > return him to the > shelter to be adopted by somebody more reliable. I > wonder whether the > adopter planned it that way -- adopted him with the > intention of > returning him to campus to be The Campus Dog. This is a con game based on a little-known scheme that had it's beginnings in Edinburgh, UK. The (insert color or markings) Dog Caper is designed to fund the local Scottish humane shelter in perpetuity. An extremely attractive dog was selected to roam the campus of the University of Edinburgh where he quickly made friends and gained admirers. His undercover handlers allowed him to remain on campus until such time as his disappearance caused considerable comment and consternation. After a short length of time had passed and the mystery had deepened, the Caper "brain" directed that information be allowed to leak that the Scottish dog was being held at the local humane society. He was duly adopted by an eager family who paid the customary adoption fee. The dog's handlers than saw to it that he was freed over and over again, all adoption and re-adoption fees going to the humane society. It is still uncertain how this scheme made its way across the pond to Starkville, but usually reliable sources hint that they see the hand of the former KGB at work. But I > must go to bed > now. I dreamed about Bernardykins a couple of > nights ago. Maybe I will > again. Or maybe I'll dream about Spencer and his > well ears. The vet > today said they look fine. We trust both Bernardykins and Spencer are exonerated, in any dreams, of any connection with the White Dog Caper. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 22:24:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAC4OV6q022472 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:24:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 76DC51E60246; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:19:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FEA71E601E7 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:19:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4019D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 23:11:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14469959 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 23:11:57 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAC4Bvj08254 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 23:11:57 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:11:52 PST Message-ID: <20031112041152.9524.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:11:52 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Espanillegal To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031111193850.00a7b490@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Betty wrote: > mem doesn't mind paying. Good. I'm very glad to hear it. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 22:26:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAC4Q46q022477 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:26:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 52EBF1E60246; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:20:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 249991E601E7 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:20:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DE582@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 23:13:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14470068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 23:13:30 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAC4DUj08420 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 23:13:30 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:13:25 PST Message-ID: <20031112041325.39308.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:13:25 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: nomail again To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Ann Borkin wrote: > bye for now. Happy tipping and tithing. > > Ann All this nomail stuff is going to give us the impression you have something else better to do. Perish the notion. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 11 22:33:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAC4XL6q022519 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:33:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 042061E602A9; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:27:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0E881E6028B for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:27:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A401CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 23:20:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14470521 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 23:20:47 -0500 Received: from flex.com (flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAC4Kjj09584 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 23:20:45 -0500 Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAC4KSBS007724 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:20:43 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from mem@flex.com) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:18:54 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: nomail again Reply-To: mem@flex.com Message-ID: <3FB1280E.16381.1A40E1E@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-Flex-Prefilter-Spam-Score: 0 () X-Flex-Loose-Spamcheck: NO X-Flex-Scan: Flexnet Mimedefang/Clamd Virii Checker - PASSED - No Virus Found Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 11 Nov 2003 at 19:53, Ann Borkin wrote: > bye for now. Happy tipping and tithing. Hey! You forgot to give us your cell number in case we need you. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 05:09:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACB9f6q026416 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 05:09:42 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2511C1E6027C; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 05:04:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6A021E60204 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 05:04:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A409C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 5:57:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14486931 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 05:57:04 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACAv4j09068 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 05:57:04 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.136.91]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031112105659.FTG6696.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 05:56:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB211FC.E1F90535@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 04:57:00 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: nomail again References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin wrote: > > bye for now. Happy tipping and tithing. Happy cell-phoning! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 05:12:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACBCu6q026440 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 05:12:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CAD161E60204; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 05:07:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DB731E60203 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 05:07:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001DEC78@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 6:00:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14487170 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 06:00:18 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACB0Ij09415 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 06:00:18 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.136.91]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031112110013.FZM6696.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 06:00:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB212BE.4AD83891@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 05:00:14 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Espanillegal References: <20031112040959.82623.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > It is still uncertain how this scheme made its way > across the pond to Starkville, but usually reliable > sources hint that they see the hand of the former KGB > at work. It is indeed looking like a possibility. There is in fact a big fund-raiser in progress to build a new shelter. I think if The White Dog is used very often in this way that the new facility should be dedicated to him -- or at least have his statue at the entrance. > We trust both Bernardykins and Spencer are exonerated, > in any dreams, of any connection with the White Dog > Caper. Yes. They are both innocent. I don't think I dreamed about dogs last night. Had lots of interesting dreams but can't remember now what they were. Am pretty sure dogs weren't involved, though. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 05:40:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACBeH6q026685 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 05:40:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7EC861E602B7; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 05:34:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5153D1E60210 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 05:34:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A40A2C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 6:27:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14487714 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 06:27:40 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACBRej11855 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 06:27:40 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.136.91]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031112112734.CKXL22427.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 06:27:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB21927.3A8BA7DA@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 05:27:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: The Importance of Athletics Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just read an article about a correlation between the number of specialty car tags sold for schools and how well their football season is going -- the sales go up during a good season (e.g., Ole Miss this fall). And the tags, of course, mean money for the university. http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0311/12/m01.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 07:17:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACDHN6q027561 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 07:17:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CFAB71E60214; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 07:11:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1CE31E601F6 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 07:11:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A40BB6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 8:04:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3252 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:04:45 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACD4jj07704 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:04:45 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-34.gwi.net [216.195.150.34]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hACD4hGn058546 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:04:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031112080200.00b2cd10@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:04:44 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens In-Reply-To: <20031112032717.8831.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031111102019.00bb5e58@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > recently watched the episode where Chris goes off to a monastery for a > retreat. > >And that's where he first met Bethany. No, no. He met Brother Simon and was physically attracted which appalled him because he never before had been attracted to a man. But Brother Simon took pity on him, broke the vow of silence, and admitted that he (Brother Simon) was a she, also a Chris, who wanted to join the monastic life but couldn't see living a life separated from men. Our Chris came back to his radio station and announced that he had fled this life to gain understanding in a retreat but learned only that, for him, there was no understanding or enlightenment without the presence of women. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 07:18:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACDIX6q027570 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 07:18:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 61FF81E60214; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 07:13:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 346951E601F6 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 07:13:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A40BAB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 8:05:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3279 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:05:56 -0500 Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com (imo-r06.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.102]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACD5tj07861 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:05:55 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.c5.3a9401cc (26116) for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:05:41 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:05:41 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Illegal Aliens To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/11/2003 9:47:49 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << I was terribly disappointed in the second Ray, at first, but I came to like him. Their explanation for the sometime co-existence of the two Rays was bizarre. I sometimes see the second Ray in other things, but never the first. >> Callum Keith Rennie (the second Ray) has been on quite a few of the Canadian-made programs, but I've rarely seen the first Ray, and, when I did, he always played some low-level crook. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com One day until Bennie arrives! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 07:34:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACDYe6q027711 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 07:34:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0787B1E60212; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 07:29:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9FFC1E6020F for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 07:29:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001DEE4D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 8:22:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3470 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:22:02 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACDC2j08437 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:12:02 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hACDBH3W022872 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:11:17 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:12:02 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031112080200.00b2cd10@pop.gwi.net> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031111102019.00bb5e58@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031112080200.00b2cd10@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, bonniev wrote: >No, no. He met Brother Simon and was physically attracted which appalled >him because he never before had been attracted to a man. But Brother Simon >took pity on him, broke the vow of silence, and admitted that he (Brother >Simon) was a she, also a Chris, who wanted to join the monastic life but >couldn't see living a life separated from men. Our Chris came back to his >radio station and announced that he had fled this life to gain >understanding in a retreat but learned only that, for him, there was no >understanding or enlightenment without the presence of women. You are giving me ideas, bonnie! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 07:51:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACDp96q027917 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 07:51:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6F6771E60212; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 07:45:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F7C01E6020F for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 07:45:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A40C99@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 8:38:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5641 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:38:31 -0500 Received: from maple.vaxer.net (root@maple.vaxer.net [66.199.186.132]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACDcUj12937 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:38:30 -0500 Received: from maple.vaxer.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maple.vaxer.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hACDbuuA006595 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 05:38:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (sylvar@localhost) by maple.vaxer.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id hACDbuCc015024 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 05:37:56 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: maple.vaxer.net: sylvar owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 05:37:56 -0800 (PST) From: Ben Ostrowsky To: The usual gang of meebers Subject: Re: No Problem Message-ID: X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to . MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > T.S. might have observed that the expression "No > problem" did not originate with Buffy, as popularly > accepted, but with ALF. It's an old Melmac expression that literally means "Gagging on a cat's tail will not happen." Ben (before you get up for that final snack, I want you to know -- I've got your cat! HA!) From owner-words-l*words-l**GTOAL*-COM@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 07:55:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACDtR6q027940 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 07:55:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5A93E1E60214; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 07:50:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CB661E6020F for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 07:50:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A40CD1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 8:42:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 6069 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:42:49 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACDgmj13826 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:42:49 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-198.gwi.net [216.195.151.198]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hACDgkAr014708 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:42:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031112084125.00b2ce58@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:42:46 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77750@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Q: What do you call someone who graduates at the bottom of their class? >A: Doctor. --Phil I thought the answer was "A Surgeon". I heard the joke told that the dumbest in the medical class go into surgery because there their stupidity pays off in that they are too dumb for their hands to shake when holding the knife. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 08:25:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACEPN6q028228 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:25:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3C13C1E6021C; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:19:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DB771E60218 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:19:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A40DD4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 9:12:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 7870 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:12:44 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACE2hj17580 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:02:43 -0500 Received: from ra.msstate.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.12.10/8.12.8/ra_1.2) with ESMTP; id hACE2gaK029049 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:02:42 -0600 (CST) Received: (from maynor@localhost) by ra.msstate.edu (8.12.10/8.12.7/Submit) id hACE2fIw029048 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:02:41 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:02:41 -0600 (CST) From: Natalie Maynor Message-Id: <200311121402.hACE2fIw029048@ra.msstate.edu> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Dressing Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I think we've discussed before the matter of Yankees eating stuffing and Southerners eating dressing. An article in today's Starkville Daily News gives insights on that topic: ******* Dressing and stuffing are essentially the same, but Southern cooks usually don't stuff the bread mixture into the bird. Instead, they bake it in a separate pan and call it dressing. No one is quite sure why, but it likely has something to do with their preference for cornbread dressing's irresistible buttery crust and the fact that the bird probably wouldn't hold enough the satisfy holiday appetites. Lately, there are also health and sanitation issues which have focused on the use of poultry and keeping raw poultry separate from other food items. There is controversy on the dangers of stuffing your holiday turkey. We have all heard the unsettling stories of food poisoning due to under cooked stuffing. Or, perhaps you have experienced it first hand. Stuffing in the turkey must reach 165 degrees in order to kill harmful bacteria according to health officials. We southerners have known all along, its a good idea to bake the stuffing separately. *************** from: http://tinyurl.com/uoxt --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 08:39:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACEd66q028346 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:39:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AC6571E6027A; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:33:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 762EC1E60220 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:33:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A40E5B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 9:26:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 9999 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:26:27 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACEQRj21852 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:26:27 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-124.gwi.net [216.195.150.124]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hACEQOAt024270; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:26:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031112091135.00b1c108@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:12:24 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Espanillegal In-Reply-To: <20031112032527.52217.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> References: <200311111521.hABFL7g10191@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:25 PM 11/11/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >Should they all take a vote and let mem out of paying >his school taxes? I think that's where all of this >started. Except that you have mem's position reversed. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 09:08:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACF8G6q028548 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:08:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 938901E6027E; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:02:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61A071E6027B for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:02:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A40F78@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 9:55:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12710 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:55:38 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hACEtbj27036 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:55:38 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 06:55:30 PST Message-ID: <20031112145530.12723.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 06:55:30 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031112080200.00b2cd10@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: > >And that's where he first met Bethany. > > No, no. He met Brother Simon and was physically > attracted which appalled > him because he never before had been attracted to a > man. But Brother Simon > took pity on him, broke the vow of silence, and > admitted that he (Brother > Simon) was a she, also a Chris, who wanted to join > the monastic life but > couldn't see living a life separated from men. Our > Chris came back to his > radio station and announced that he had fled this > life to gain > understanding in a retreat but learned only that, > for him, there was no > understanding or enlightenment without the presence > of women. Well, you are quite right. Chris' life is too intricate at this point to involve Bethany, except in her guise as long distance guru of understanding or enlightenment. Actually, Chris was the soul of that series. But one of my other favorites was Marilyn. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 09:12:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACFCt6q028621 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:12:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 54C4C1E602BA; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:07:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 269DF1E6027F for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:07:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A40FBA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:00:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13444 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:00:17 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hACF0Hj28793 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:00:17 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 07:00:11 PST Message-ID: <20031112150011.75414.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 07:00:11 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Hooray, Bennie Day To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Welcome, Bennie! Sweetie, be sweet, now. Evelyn, when everyone is settled in, put Bennie on the line so we can speak to him. We also want to see what he looks like. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 09:15:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACFFH6q028642 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:15:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1012E1E602BB; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:09:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE9831E6027F for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:09:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DF18D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:02:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13606 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:02:31 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hACF2Vj29235 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:02:31 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 07:02:23 PST Message-ID: <20031112150223.76176.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 07:02:23 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: No Problem To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > T.S. might have observed that the expression "No > > problem" did not originate with Buffy, as > popularly > > accepted, but with ALF. > > It's an old Melmac expression that literally means > "Gagging on a cat's > tail will not happen." > > Ben > (before you get up for that final snack, I want you > to know -- > I've got > your cat! HA!) Yo! And apologies to Gordon Shumway. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 09:16:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACFGd6q028671 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:16:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 158AF1E602BA; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:11:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF19F1E60221 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:11:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A40FDF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:04:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13795 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:04:00 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACF40j29536 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:04:00 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-124.gwi.net [216.195.150.124]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hACF3wGn077656 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:03:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031112100314.00b59350@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:04:00 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens In-Reply-To: <20031112145530.12723.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031112080200.00b2cd10@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Actually, Chris was the soul of that series. But one >of my other favorites was Marilyn. Yes, I loved quiet Marilyn. Paraphrasing: The eagle soars and in so doing says everything that needs to be said. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 09:19:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACFJH6q028690 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:19:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 72FF01E602BA; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:13:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F0A01E6027F for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:13:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DF1AF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:06:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13962 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:06:39 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACF6cj29861 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:06:38 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hACF6XkF021937 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 16:06:33 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hACF6WFJ021935 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 16:06:32 +0100 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 16:06:32 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Meet me in St. Louis Message-ID: <20031112150632.GA21917@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy: = Rita and Ana Chapman will host next year's (stateside) list event. = = I'm still holding out for Namibia. Namibia should be good in November or so. Nice springtime weather. We just gotta get our acts together and plan it. My friend Abdel would like to join us, and he has a friend who runs a tour service there who he wants to get together with, so really we're halfway there. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 09:20:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACFKK6q028702 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:20:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 487D21E6027F; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:14:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD0A1E60221 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:14:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A40FF6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:07:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14031 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:07:42 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hACF7fj29989 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:07:41 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 07:07:36 PST Message-ID: <20031112150736.17018.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 07:07:36 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Dressing To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200311121402.hACE2fIw029048@ra.msstate.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Or, perhaps you have experienced it first hand. > Stuffing in the turkey > must reach 165 degrees in order to kill harmful > bacteria according to > health officials. > > We southerners have known all along, its a good idea > to bake the > stuffing separately. > *************** > > from: http://tinyurl.com/uoxt > > --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) Yes, but the dressing that was stuffed in the bird is the most delectable of all. You just gotta take your chances. Cornbread dressing is almost as good as Yankee stuffing. It's sort of a matter of separate but equal. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 09:23:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACFNa6q028717 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:23:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F416B1E602BB; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:18:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B92571E60221 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:18:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A41023@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:10:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14206 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:10:57 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hACFAvj30421 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:10:57 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 07:10:51 PST Message-ID: <20031112151051.51635.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 07:10:51 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Espanillegal To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031112091135.00b1c108@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > At 07:25 PM 11/11/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > >Should they all take a vote and let mem out of > paying > >his school taxes? I think that's where all of this > >started. > > Except that you have mem's position reversed. > > cwv That's a rather large exception, and my apologies are sincere. How did I get it so muddled? (Answer carefully, please.) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 09:29:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACFTE6q028762 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:29:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 589021E602BA; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:23:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C3E31E6027F for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:23:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A41057@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:16:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14632 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:16:35 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hACFGYj31459 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:16:34 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:16:34 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:16:15 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hACFTE6q028762 d'accord ! and I loved that her name was Marilyn Whirlwind - when she was often the only one who was calm I miss NE. BrP >>> lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM 11/12/03 09:55AM >>> Actually, Chris was the soul of that series. But one of my other favorites was Marilyn. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 09:31:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACFVP6q028813 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:31:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D875C1E602BC; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:25:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAE641E602BB for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:25:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A41065@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:18:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14833 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:18:46 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hACFIkj31930 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:18:46 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:18:46 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:18:24 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Dressing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hACFVP6q028813 I thought the issue was leaving it in the bird after it is cooked - that it retains enough heat to be the perfect medium for incubating bacteria BrP >>> lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM 11/12/03 10:07AM >>> --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Or, perhaps you have experienced it first hand. > Stuffing in the turkey > must reach 165 degrees in order to kill harmful > bacteria according to > health officials. > > We southerners have known all along, its a good idea > to bake the > stuffing separately. > *************** > > from: http://tinyurl.com/uoxt > > --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) Yes, but the dressing that was stuffed in the bird is the most delectable of all. You just gotta take your chances. Cornbread dressing is almost as good as Yankee stuffing. It's sort of a matter of separate but equal. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 09:31:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACFVt6q028832 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:31:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9B98C1E602BD; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:26:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D20D1E602BC for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:26:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4104F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:19:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14865 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:19:17 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACFJHj32011 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:19:17 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4105D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:19:16 -0500 Message-Id: <200311121519.hACFJHj32011@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:19:16 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:16:15 -0500, Paul Barfoot wrote: >d'accord ! and I loved that her name was Marilyn Whirlwind - when she >was often the only one who was calm I have no idea what Sarah Vowell looks like, but she reminds me a lot of Marilyn. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 09:35:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACFZh6q028864 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:35:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 900E81E602BA; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:30:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E7E81E60281 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:30:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A41087@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:23:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 15201 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:23:05 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACFN1j00454 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:23:05 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:22:56 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7777E@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: middle-classed Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:22:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] >Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 10:40 PM >Phil Paxton wrote: > >> How are things supposed to work such that it's (medical >care) fair for all? >> What is fair? Remember, we're talking about realism, not Utopia. > >Tony -- please explain how it works in Canada. The Canadian system >seems to work quite well. And it is realism -- as in it's right there >and working. It works quite well "in general". What I'd like to hear is would be things from the current series in the Wall Street Journal (today is part six). "Universal Care Has a Big Price: Patients Wait" I've got the others at home in my "catch-up" pile from dealing with a project here. This is not new news. There are plenty of stories over the years describing Canadians who have come to the US for treatment (frequently surgery) and pay for it simply because waiting in line at home can increase the risk dramatically. >> (If I work 100 hours a week for three years, create >something which turns me >> into a RR, how much should I expect to part with in order to >make it fair >> for someone else to have good medical care?) > >Depends on how selfish you are. What about the people working for 100+ >hours a week but who don't create something to turn them into >RRs? Does I don't think selfish has anything to do with it. If I'm the one taking the risks, injecting sweat equity, etc. how can selfish enter into it? And it applies even moreso if I hold a day job, then turn around an have an "evening job" dedicated to applying more effort to everything else. That creates a situation where I can burn myself out for my day job, get sick from the stress, or any number of other things simply because I'm ensuring I can pay my bills and work other things in lieu of other things I could be doing. >their lack of creative ability mean that in spite of their hard work >scrubbing floors or whatever they're doing mean that they don't deserve >medical care? That's an issue for them to work out with their mgmt. Oh, wait. Let me amend that. That's an issue for their union to work out with mgmt. >I know zero about HMOs. The little bit I've heard about them has all >sounded negative. I don't think Canada has HMOs. Of course not. They just have lines. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 09:39:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACFd16q028908 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:39:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5B4991E602BA; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:33:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2760C1E60281 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:33:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001DF290@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:26:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 15429 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:26:23 -0500 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.99]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACFQMj00935 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:26:22 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1c3.118f6698 (4340) for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:25:57 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1c3.118f6698.2ce3ab05@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:25:57 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] No Problem To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/12/2003 7:38:49 AM Central Standard Time, sylvar@VAXER.NET writes: << (before you get up for that final snack, I want you to know -- I've got your cat! HA!) >> When it came right down to it, he couldn't eat Lucky. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Reading the Dilbert Principle makes me glad I no longer work at Sears. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 09:44:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACFic6q028939 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:44:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 251791E602BA; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:39:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E12921E60281 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:39:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001DF2C4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:31:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 15879 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:31:59 -0500 Received: from imo-m01.mx.aol.com (imo-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.4]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACFVxj01996 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:31:59 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.ab.34a4de5d (4320) for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:31:48 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:31:48 EST Subject: Re: Breaking News Wed., November 12, 2003 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/12/2003 7:46:37 AM Central Standard Time, abcnewsnow-editor@mail.abcnews.go.com writes: << Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com: EXCLUSIVE: Britney Spears Opens Up to ABCNEWS About Her Music, Her Heart and Her Famous Body Parts >> THIS is breaking news? A car bomb, an earthquake, me winning a million dollars, that is breaking news! But an interview with some bimbette? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Bennie should be here this evening! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 09:51:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACFpa6q029059 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:51:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3CCDA1E602BD; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:46:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D48761E602BC for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:46:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4110C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:38:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 16617 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:38:56 -0500 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.99]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACFcpj03469 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:38:51 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1d2.1440ef40 (4320) for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:38:33 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1d2.1440ef40.2ce3adf9@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:38:33 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] No Problem To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/12/2003 9:03:04 AM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << Yo! And apologies to Gordon Shumway. >> I'm glad he's back on TV. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Bennie should be here this evening! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 09:58:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACFwK6q029132 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:58:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4D82B1E602BC; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:52:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B5841E602BA for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:52:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001DF371@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:45:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 17658 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:45:41 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACFjfj05236 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:45:41 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hACFjce6027305 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:45:40 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001901c3a934$0703f800$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200311121402.hACE2fIw029048@ra.msstate.edu> Subject: Re: Dressing Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:45:40 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > We southerners have known all along, its a good idea to bake the > stuffing separately. > *************** > > --Natalie Maynor Nobody southern in my family, yet we have always baked the stuffing separately and called it dressing. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 10:18:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACGI86q029306 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:18:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 97A901E602BD; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:12:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A31A1E602BC for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:12:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A41211@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:05:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 19072 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:05:29 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACG5Sj08809 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:05:29 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:05:23 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77781@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: The Importance of Athletics Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:05:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] >Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 6:28 AM >I just read an article about a correlation between the number of >specialty car tags sold for schools and how well their football season >is going -- the sales go up during a good season (e.g., Ole Miss this >fall). And the tags, of course, mean money for the university. > >http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0311/12/m01.html Interesting. There's a story in today's WSJ about "Rivalry Merchandise" where both teams get a cut where one school's mascot is shown doing something to the other school's. They have to raise money somehow and not everyone can afford a tuition hike. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 10:24:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACGOu6q029414 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:24:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6B8291E60225; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:19:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11FFD1E60223 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:19:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4123B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:12:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 19597 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:12:16 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACGCGj10467 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:12:16 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DF412@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:12:16 -0500 Message-Id: <200311121612.hACGCGj10467@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:12:16 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: God and Caesar To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:19:35 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >> Jodi was shocked to hear that I put two dollars in >> the envelope for >> church offerings. She thought it was way low; I >> explained it was all I >> had, and sometimes I put in a five, but I was never >> sure exactly what most >> people do or what was expected. >> >> I'm also trying to make sense of Deuteronomy >> 14:22-29, which seems to be >> saying that I should offer this tithe to God by >> having a fancy dinner. >> Which I don't object to -- I can see spending two >> days preparing a feast >> as a deliberate way to celebrate our blessings. >> (But I don't think I >> could spend 10% of my yearly income on it!) Or does >> this mean I should >> spend 10% of my income on eating out? I probably >> *do*. I forgot about this - thanks for reminding me! It says, every year take 10% of your earnings and feast on it, and if you can't, turn it into money and spend it on yourself. IOW, take a vacation or use some disposable income, presuming that everything else you do is about work and subsistance; but only do that 2 yrs out of 3. The 3rd year, take that money and give it to the church and the poor, and remember when you do it that you might also hit hard times and there may be a day when that's you knocking on the door asking for help. >> And then there's 2 Corinthians 8:10-12, which seems >> to be saying I >> shouldn't worry about how to carve out an extra 10% >> from my budget, but I >> should actually go and set up their spare computer >> as a web and e-mail >> server instead of just talking about it. >> >> I dunno; what are y'all's thoughts on all this? It seems perfectly clear to me that you should go and set up their spare computer. I'm not so clear about why you think using the 10% of what you clearly have in the advised manner is exempted by a clause about not worrying about what you don't have. >> >> Ben > >To me, tithing always means 10%, but applies to a >long-term commitment from an income to the church. Interesting that churches have managed to convey that, isn't it? T'ain't so, Mcgee! > I >never have thought of tithing in terms of collection >plates. As one of the people who counted up those collections, I can verify that yours is a majority impression; but many tithers do in fact put their weekly or monthly check in the donations envelope and drop it in the collection plate. >Biblical references, unlike Caesar's wife, can be all >things to all men. At the moment, I regard them as >dangerous waters. > Thanks, Ben, for encouraging me to swim with the sharks again for a few minutes. It was a nice opportunity to reminisce. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 10:29:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACGTs6q029482 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:29:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AAD121E602BE; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:24:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB241E60225 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:24:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A412CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:17:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 20756 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:17:15 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACGHF912233 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:17:15 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001DF48E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:17:14 -0500 Message-Id: <200311121617.hACGHF912233@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:17:15 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:48:35 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Evelyn Duncan wrote: >> I wish A&E would again show Northern Exposure. > >Yes, and another good quirky series, Due South. > I would give my eye teeth for a copy of NE's "Old Tree" episode, when Shelly can only sing (uncut - the shortened rerun version dropped some of the most effective numbers). It's my second favorite episode of TV, after the "Valentine" episode of Frazier in which Niles is found passed out on the floor in boxer shorts while Eddie the dog calmly chows down on spaghetti in the smoking hole in the couch. But my third would be almost every episode of Due South. Man, that was beautiful. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 10:30:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACGUw6q029489 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:30:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EE8FC1E60225; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:25:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 946061E60223 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:25:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A412E2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:18:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 20832 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:18:11 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACGIA912434 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:18:11 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:18:04 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77782@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Illegal Aliens Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:18:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: bonniev [mailto:bonniev@GWI.NET] >Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 8:05 AM >> > recently watched the episode where Chris goes off to a >monastery for a >> retreat. >> >>And that's where he first met Bethany. > >No, no. He met Brother Simon and was physically attracted >which appalled >him because he never before had been attracted to a man. But >Brother Simon >took pity on him, broke the vow of silence, and admitted that >he (Brother >Simon) was a she, also a Chris, who wanted to join the >monastic life but >couldn't see living a life separated from men. Our Chris came >back to his >radio station and announced that he had fled this life to gain >understanding in a retreat but learned only that, for him, there was no >understanding or enlightenment without the presence of women. That sounds almost like "Fast Break" (1979, IIRC) when one of the [basketball] players runs off on the team because he feels attracted to Swish. (That's when he finds out Swish is a girl) It's the movie when the cops are running Signal 10 behind them and they think they're getting busted for their brick of pot so they pass it out and start swallowing it. Pulling over, the cops go past them. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 10:31:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACGVm6q029505 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:31:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8CA1D1E60225; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:26:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DAAA1E60223 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:26:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001DF481@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:19:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 20928 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:19:09 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACGJ9912678 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:19:09 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001DF4A4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:19:08 -0500 Message-Id: <200311121619.hACGJ9912678@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:19:08 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Espanillegal To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:11:42 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- bonniev wrote: >> If people rent for that reason, it's the same reason >> that people join >> Christmas Clubs. > > Same >> thing with renting vs. >> owning. The tax is included in the rent you must >> pay. You don't have to >> come up with an annual, or semi-annual, property tax >> payment. Of course, >> if you have a high enough mortgage, the lending >> company acts like a >> Christmas Club and makes you pay them monthly. They >> hold your funds in >> escrow. They see to it themselves that the house is >> not lost to the >> property tax people. > >The number of people who do not have that kind of >self-discipline is the majority. If this were not so, >we would not have Social Security. > Nonsense. Social Security insures the great "we" against the sudden indigence of a generation of citizens who are beyond working if their nest eggs go south in a stock market crash. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 11:05:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACH5N6q029741 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:05:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 772DC1E6022C; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:59:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5F641E60282 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:59:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A41444@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:52:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 24269 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:52:40 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACGqd921121 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:52:39 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2003111216523201200dp4fqe>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 16:52:33 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031112084500.04f04858@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:51:57 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Breaking News Wed., November 12, 2003 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan writes, >THIS is breaking news? A car bomb, an earthquake, me winning a >million dollars, that is breaking news! But an interview with some >bimbette? It just means that they define "news" as "things with advertisements we'd like you to see." I'm not crazy about CNN to read regularly, but at least their breaking news email alerts are actually news. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 11:17:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACHHm6q029881 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:17:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 76B951E60223; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:12:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D4241E6021D for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:12:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A414BA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:04:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 25601 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:04:30 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACH4TB23762 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:04:29 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hACH4QtS630856 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:04:26 -0600 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:04:26 -0600 (CST) From: nam gal sips clark X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Breaking News Wed., November 12, 2003 In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031112084500.04f04858@mail.istori.com> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031112084500.04f04858@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan writes, >But an interview with some bimbette? "Why is Britney kissing that gross old lady?" From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 11:22:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACHMW6q029940 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:22:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 81E361E6021D; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:17:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACFB61E60223 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:17:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A41507@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:09:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 26161 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:09:52 -0500 Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACH9pB24915 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:09:51 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HO900A4610DAD@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:09:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.73] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:05:27 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:05:27 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Dressing To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <6927df69050f.69050f6927df@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > the bird probably wouldn't hold enough the satisfy holiday appetites. We always stuff the bird and then make a lot extra which is cooked separately, and at the end mix it all up and cook it all together. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 11:23:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACHN06q029952 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:23:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 74C001E60223; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:17:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 979F31E6021D for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:17:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001DF6B0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:10:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 26210 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:10:16 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACHAFB24986 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:10:15 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-124.gwi.net [216.195.150.124]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hACHABAt059984; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:10:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031112120925.00b56500@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:10:07 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Espanillegal In-Reply-To: <20031112151051.51635.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031112091135.00b1c108@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:10 AM 11/12/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >That's a rather large exception, and my apologies are >sincere. How did I get it so muddled? Most of the long-lived threads become a process of muddling through. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 11:24:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACHOM6q029956 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:24:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E2E021E6022C; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:18:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DCF81E60223 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:18:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4150C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:11:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 26310 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:11:42 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACHBgB25257 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:11:42 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-124.gwi.net [216.195.150.124]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hACHBeGn097646 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:11:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031112120831.00b56570@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:11:42 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7777E@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >if I hold a day job, then turn around an have an >"evening job" dedicated to applying more effort to everything else. That >creates a situation where I can burn myself out for my day job, get sick >from the stress, or any number of other things simply because I'm ensuring I >can pay my bills and work other things in lieu of other things I could be >doing. --Phil This sounds like you think the only reason people don't have health insurance or find themselves in dire poverty is because they are unwilling to work hard -- to work hard like you work hard. That's just not true. There are people in the service industry here in Bar Harbor who work two and three jobs from May through October. But they don't get any benefits and, even with all that hard work, they earn only enough to pay for rent, food, clothing, and an occasional beer. They don't make enough to be able to afford health care or to save money for retirement. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 11:26:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACHQU6q029989 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:26:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3C29A1E60226; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:21:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 800E91E60223 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:21:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A41536@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:13:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 26433 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:13:40 -0500 Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACHDXB25518 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:13:34 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HO900C1N161RM@mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:13:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.73] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:08:58 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:08:58 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: REALTOR.com Listing #598675 To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <6a5e566a7d00.6a7d006a5e56@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ---- Original Message ----- From: Natalie Maynor > Marie Ascher wrote: > > > I should drive in and introduce Laszlo to you !! > > That would be sooo cool! But I realize that it's a busy season. Has > Laszlo visited the city yet? What would he think of the doggies > rompingin Central Park? Would he laugh at them for getting all > excited about a > park when they have to go back home then on sidewalks near honking > hornsand up to their tenth-floor ? He hasn't been into the city yet -- well, he's been in a car through the Bronx and across the GW Bridge, but that doesn't count. He is a Central Park virgin and I think we ought to break him in. I'm not even sure where the best dog-romping spots are -- do you know? Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 12:29:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACIT96q030550 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:29:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 55F041E6022D; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:23:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A4001E6022C for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:23:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4176F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 13:16:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 31711 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 13:16:29 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACIGTB05512 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 13:16:29 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001DF8C5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 13:16:28 -0500 Message-Id: <200311121816.hACIGTB05512@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 13:16:29 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: middle-classed To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:11:42 -0500, bonniev wrote: >>if I hold a day job, then turn around an have an >>"evening job" dedicated to applying more effort to everything else. That >>creates a situation where I can burn myself out for my day job, get sick >>from the stress, or any number of other things simply because I'm ensuring I >>can pay my bills and work other things in lieu of other things I could be >>doing. --Phil > >This sounds like you think the only reason people don't have health >insurance or find themselves in dire poverty is because they are unwilling >to work hard -- to work hard like you work hard. That's just not >true. There are people in the service industry here in Bar Harbor who work >two and three jobs from May through October. But they don't get any >benefits and, even with all that hard work, they earn only enough to pay >for rent, food, clothing, and an occasional beer. They don't make enough >to be able to afford health care or to save money for retirement. > > >bonnie Thank you Bonnie! And, I might add in re the earlier conversation, nothing so clearly distinguishes the middle class as the attitude that people who are worse off deserve it. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 13:31:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACJVw6q031245 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 13:31:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B02401E60283; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 13:26:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B8A01E60231 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 13:26:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A419CB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:19:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 37486 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:19:17 -0500 Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACJJHB18853 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:19:17 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.14c.26b17dee (4539) for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:19:01 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <14c.26b17dee.2ce3e1a5@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:19:01 EST Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/12/2003 10:17:35 AM, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: > Evelyn Duncan wrote: I wish A&E would again show Northern Exposure. Yes, and another good quirky series, Due South. I would give my eye teeth for a copy of NE's "Old Tree" episode, when >Shelly can only sing (uncut - the shortened rerun version dropped some of the most effective numbers). It's my second favorite episode of TV, after the "Valentine" episode of Frazier in which Niles is found passed out on the floor in boxer shorts while Eddie the dog calmly chows down on spaghetti in the smoking hole in the couch. --------- Good grief, don't you people have better things to do than staring at that TV screen? Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 13:35:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACJZD6q031304 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 13:35:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 501B41E602C1; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 13:29:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B42701E602C0 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 13:29:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A419CB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:22:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 37727 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:22:32 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hACJMVB19387 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:22:31 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:22:26 PST Message-ID: <20031112192226.54844.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:22:26 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Dressing To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Paul Barfoot wrote: > I thought the issue was leaving it in the bird after > it is cooked - that it retains enough heat to be the > perfect medium for incubating bacteria > I have seen pre-stuffed, raw turkeys for sale in grocery stores here in town. May as well drink arsenic. The culprit is the poultry "juice". Uncooked, it makes everything else it touches, toxic. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 13:37:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACJbS6q031399 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 13:37:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D23F81E60282; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 13:31:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE26E1E60280 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 13:31:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001DFB56@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:24:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 37916 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:24:47 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hACJOjB19803 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:24:45 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:24:38 PST Message-ID: <20031112192438.32079.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:24:38 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: No Problem To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1c3.118f6698.2ce3ab05@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > In a message dated 11/12/2003 7:38:49 AM Central > Standard Time, > sylvar@VAXER.NET writes: > << > (before you get up for that final snack, I want you > to know -- > I've got > your cat! HA!) > >> > > When it came right down to it, he couldn't eat > Lucky. Lucky was eponymous. > Evelyn Duncan > brandykitt@aol.com > Reading the Dilbert Principle makes me glad I no > longer > work at Sears. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 13:39:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACJd96q031408 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 13:39:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E4E9D1E602BD; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 13:33:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 462781E60283 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 13:33:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A419E8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:26:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 38040 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:26:28 -0500 Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (imo-r05.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACJQPB20143 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:26:25 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1d2.1447970d (4539) for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:26:09 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1d2.1447970d.2ce3e351@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:26:09 EST Subject: Re: middle-classed To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/12/2003 11:12:06 AM, bonniev@GWI.NET writes: > >This sounds like you think the only reason people don't have health insurance or find themselves in dire poverty is because they are unwilling to work hard -- to work hard like you work hard. That's just not true. There are people in the service industry here in Bar Harbor who work >two and three jobs from May through October. But they don't get any benefits and, even with all that hard work, they earn only enough to pay for rent, food, clothing, and an occasional beer. They don't make enough to be able to afford health care or to save money for retirement. >bonnie ----------------- You've said it woman, and that in the "richest" country in the world? Excuse me for my doubt again. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 13:41:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACJfa6q031479 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 13:41:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4A2C81E60280; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 13:34:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 480A51E60233 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 13:34:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A419F2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:27:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 38115 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:27:20 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hACJRJB20320 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:27:20 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:27:11 PST Message-ID: <20031112192711.56216.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:27:11 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Breaking News Wed., November 12, 2003 To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > THIS is breaking news? A car bomb, an earthquake, > me winning a > million dollars, that is breaking news! But an > interview with some > bimbette? Just like ABC. Once again, scraping the barrel. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 14:12:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACKCR6q031804 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:12:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6E4C51E60282; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:06:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4884D1E60229 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:06:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001DFCC4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:59:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 41402 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:59:44 -0500 Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACJxhB26057 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:59:44 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HO900L4D8UL51@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:59:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:55:06 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:55:06 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <6f72886f702e.6f702e6f7288@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Good grief, don't you people have better things to do than staring > at that TV > screen? > Theo Reading Words-L, for instance??? Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 14:25:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACKPS6q031897 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:25:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2AF2A1E60283; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:19:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77C6F1E60282 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:19:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001DFD6F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:12:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 42497 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:12:46 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hACKCjB28045 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:12:46 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:12:39 PST Message-ID: <20031112201239.49897.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:12:39 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Breaking News Wed., November 12, 2003 To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- nam gal sips clark wrote: > Evelyn Duncan writes, > >But an interview with some bimbette? > > "Why is Britney kissing that gross old lady?" Who knows why? More compelling a question is, why does that gross old lady put up with it? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 14:25:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACKPs6q031912 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:25:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 489D71E60229; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:20:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C75C1E60280 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:20:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A41BDD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:13:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 42554 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:13:13 -0500 Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (imo-r05.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACKDCB28138 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:13:12 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1d0.142ee32f (4539) for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:12:18 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1d0.142ee32f.2ce3ee22@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:12:18 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Hooray, Bennie Day To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU So far, things have been quiet here between the two of them. I guess he's glad he's out of that cage, and Sweetie is glad that Bennie is her size. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Bennie 's here! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 14:28:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACKSY6q031917 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:28:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0F3E11E60282; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:23:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 329291E60229 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:23:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001DFDB1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:15:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 42951 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:15:52 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hACKFpB28686 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:15:51 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:15:45 PST Message-ID: <20031112201545.66937.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:15:45 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: REALTOR.com Listing #598675 To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <6a5e566a7d00.6a7d006a5e56@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote: > He hasn't been into the city yet -- well, he's been > in a car through the Bronx and across the GW Bridge, > but that doesn't count. He is a Central Park virgin > and I think we ought to break him in. I'm not even > sure where the best dog-romping spots are -- do you > know? Don't let him take a purse. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 14:34:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACKYT6q031964 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:34:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C23DA1E60282; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:28:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34CD01E60280 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:28:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A41C50@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:21:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 43526 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:21:47 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hACKLlB30251 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:21:47 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:21:40 PST Message-ID: <20031112202140.52590.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:21:40 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Illegal Aliens To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <14c.26b17dee.2ce3e1a5@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Theo Groothof wrote: > Good grief, don't you people have better things to > do than staring at that TV > screen? Train us up in the way we should grow, Theo. How do you while away your rich hours? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 17:10:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACNAU6q001239 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:10:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 595951E60253; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:05:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 179F71E60252 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:05:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E03B9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:57:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 57723 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:57:48 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACMvmB23196 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:57:48 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.166.155]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031112225742.GTKI17368.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:57:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB2BAE8.6582DB8F@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 16:57:44 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dressing References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: > > I thought the issue was leaving it in the bird after it is cooked - that it retains enough heat to be the perfect medium for incubating bacteria Why would you leave it in after the cooking? Why wouldn't you put it in a dish and serve it? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 17:17:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACNH36q001314 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:17:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0A4921E60255; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:11:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C599B1E60253 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:11:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A422FC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:04:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 58447 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:04:16 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACN4GB24255 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:04:16 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hACN4Ek0014136 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:04:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FB2BC22.1040706@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:02:58 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Meet me in St. Louis References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Namibia beats St. Louis by a long shot, but all are welcome in the Gateway City. I will post things to do, hotels, etc. over Thanksgiving weekend. For those who plan flights early, we are 20 minutes from Lambert Intl'. Airport. Up until last week, it was a hub for American Airlines. I think they still run the most flights. Southwest also has a hub here. Those are your best bets for cheapness. It's also, actually, fairly easy to catch a train here. For those driving, my house is near I-70, I-270, and I-170. Hotels are very near by -- 10 minutes. These include a Hampton Inn, Red Roof Inn, Days Inn (kinda seedy looking). The airport hotels are also close. Fancier places aren't far. We probably have room for some folks -- guest room, and pull-out couches in family room and basement. We have tons to do that week -- Fair St. Louis is going on, we can hit the river, do a float trip on one of the Ozark Rivers, our zoo is outstanding, lots of people like to take the free tour of the Anheuser-Busch plant, Six Flags is very close, the Arch is celebrating some sort of anniversary, and we've got buttloads of Lewis & Clark stuff. Sorta depends on whatchya wanta do. I think there's usually a blues festival of some sort that weekend, too. Fireworks are in my front yard, or, if you want to hear the symphony, a short walk over to the civic center (you can hear the music in my yard, but not if there's conversation at the same time). Children are especially welcome. Rashmi Murthy wrote: > Rita and Ana Chapman will host next year's (stateside) list event. > > I'm still holding out for Namibia. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Concerned that messages may bounce because your Hotmail account is over > limit? Get Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 17:21:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACNL16q001361 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:21:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 16A621E60255; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:15:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D69AC1E60253 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:15:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A42323@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:08:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 58816 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:08:19 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACN8JB25113 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:08:19 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.166.155]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031112230811.GYTV17368.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:08:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB2BD5D.E36BA78F@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:08:13 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7777E@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > >Tony -- please explain how it works in Canada. The Canadian system > >seems to work quite well. And it is realism -- as in it's right there > >and working. > > It works quite well "in general". What I'd like to hear is would be things > from the current series in the Wall Street Journal (today is part six). > "Universal Care Has a Big Price: Patients Wait" I've got the others at home > in my "catch-up" pile from dealing with a project here. This is not new > news. There are plenty of stories over the years describing Canadians who > have come to the US for treatment (frequently surgery) and pay for it simply > because waiting in line at home can increase the risk dramatically. Yes, there are those stories. U.S. doctors love spreading them, whether they are true or not true. My RRB has told that story often, but, when questioned about the source, it turns out that it's never from a Canadian -- it's from other U.S. doctor friends. Somehow I have a bit more confidence in the stories told by people like Tony. Is he in Brazil now? He probably hasn't seen my tell request. Meanwhile, though, I was reading something on this subject just a few days ago from a USAer who lived for a while in Canada. I'm pretty sure I blogged it. I'll go look. ... Found it: http://www.commondreams.org/views03/1110-12.htm > >> (If I work 100 hours a week for three years, create > >something which turns me > >> into a RR, how much should I expect to part with in order to > >make it fair > >> for someone else to have good medical care?) > > > >Depends on how selfish you are. What about the people working for 100+ > >hours a week but who don't create something to turn them into > >RRs? Does > > I don't think selfish has anything to do with it. If I'm the one taking the > risks, injecting sweat equity, etc. how can selfish enter into it? Quite easily. You don't want to pay taxes to help people who happen not to be as talented as you are. > applies even moreso if I hold a day job, then turn around an have an > "evening job" dedicated to applying more effort to everything else. That > creates a situation where I can burn myself out for my day job, get sick > from the stress, or any number of other things simply because I'm ensuring I > can pay my bills and work other things in lieu of other things I could be > doing. ? Plenty of the working poor are working almost around the clock. > >their lack of creative ability mean that in spite of their hard work > >scrubbing floors or whatever they're doing mean that they don't deserve > >medical care? > > That's an issue for them to work out with their mgmt. Oh, wait. Let me amend > that. That's an issue for their union to work out with mgmt. Returning to your question of how selfish can enter into it -- just look in your mirror. Selfish will be staring back at you. > >sounded negative. I don't think Canada has HMOs. > > Of course not. They just have lines. I've forgotten what you said now about how many years you lived in Canada. Sorry to have to ask you to repeat it, but I really have forgotten and am wondering why your experience was so different from that of all the other Canadian residents I've heard talk about the medical situation. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 17:23:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACNNX6q001381 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:23:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6BE141E60255; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:18:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B95B1E60253 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:18:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A42338@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:10:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 58993 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:10:51 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACNApB25544 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:10:51 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.166.155]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031112231046.GZWD17368.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:10:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB2BDF7.C6E684F7@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:10:47 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dressing References: <200311121402.hACE2fIw029048@ra.msstate.edu> <001901c3a934$0703f800$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > > > > We southerners have known all along, its a good idea to bake the > > stuffing separately. > > *************** QUOTED by <-------------------- > > --Natalie Maynor > > Nobody southern in my family, yet we > have always baked the stuffing separately > and called it dressing. I personally have no knowledge of these matters, having never cooked either a turkey or dressing in my life. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 17:29:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACNTk6q001454 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:29:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 85EE81E60287; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:24:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53BC41E60253 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:24:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A42360@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:17:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 59388 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:17:04 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACNH4B26258 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:17:04 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.166.155]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031112231659.HCRV17368.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:16:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB2BF67.8EF46A76@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:16:55 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: REALTOR.com Listing #598675 References: <6a5e566a7d00.6a7d006a5e56@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > He is a Central Park virgin and I think we ought to break him in. I'm not even sure where the best dog-romping spots are -- do you know? I don't know much about the geography of CP. About the only place I can name specifically where I've watched dogs romping is near the road that crosses the park at about 79th St. or so. I've jogged along that road watching romping dogs. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 17:30:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACNUa6q001458 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:30:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7D60C1E6028D; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:25:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50AC41E60287 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:25:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4237E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:17:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 59422 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:17:55 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACNHsB26346 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:17:54 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hACNHpe6016459 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:17:53 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001501c3a973$32a652c0$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Op Eds Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:17:52 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hACNUa6q001458 Natalie . . there were some op ed pieces this morning in the NYT that might be of interest to you. Maybe you saw them. One cautionary one about angry democrats and another one concerning Dean and how other candidates want to get him out of the picture (or something like that). - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 17:33:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACNXj6q001518 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:33:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BE42A1E60250; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:28:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A6EB1E6024D for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:28:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A42395@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:21:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 59569 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:20:55 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACNKtB26715 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:20:55 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:20:46 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77786@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Espanillegal Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:20:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Carolyn Ostrander [mailto:clostran@SYR.EDU] >Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 11:19 AM >On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:11:42 -0800, Lynne Weber >wrote: > >>--- bonniev wrote: >>> If people rent for that reason, it's the same reason >>> that people join >>> Christmas Clubs. >> >> Same >>> thing with renting vs. >>> owning. The tax is included in the rent you must >>> pay. You don't have to >>> come up with an annual, or semi-annual, property tax >>> payment. Of course, >>> if you have a high enough mortgage, the lending >>> company acts like a >>> Christmas Club and makes you pay them monthly. They >>> hold your funds in >>> escrow. They see to it themselves that the house is >>> not lost to the >>> property tax people. >> >>The number of people who do not have that kind of >>self-discipline is the majority. If this were not so, >>we would not have Social Security. >> >Nonsense. Social Security insures the great "we" against the sudden >indigence of a generation of citizens who are beyond working >if their nest >eggs go south in a stock market crash. >clo Social Security was never intended to be a permanent program. That aside, step back and look at what happened at inception: if someone started working full time and retired at the "usual" age and began receiving Social Security checks, how soon do you think they balanced out; i.e., how long was it before they received as much or more money than they contributed during their adult life? Eighteen months. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 17:33:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACNXw6q001522 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:33:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BD3C31E60247; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:28:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E7BC1E6024D for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:28:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A42383@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:21:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 59644 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:21:16 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACNLFB26860 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:21:16 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:21:10 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77787@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Breaking News Wed., November 12, 2003 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:21:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Peter Kaminski [mailto:kaminski@ISTORI.COM] >Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 11:52 AM >Evelyn Duncan writes, > >>THIS is breaking news? A car bomb, an earthquake, me winning a >>million dollars, that is breaking news! But an interview with some >>bimbette? > >It just means that they define "news" as "things with >advertisements we'd >like you to see." > >I'm not crazy about CNN to read regularly, but at least their >breaking news >email alerts are actually news. Don't forget CNN's previous nickname: Clinton News Network. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 17:36:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACNaD6q001541 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:36:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 17A7E1E60250; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:30:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D92051E60247 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:30:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A423AD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:23:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 59803 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:23:31 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACNNVB27290 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:23:31 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-124.gwi.net [216.195.150.124]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hACNNSGp057512; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:23:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031112182236.00b45ce8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:23:26 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Dressing In-Reply-To: <3FB2BDF7.C6E684F7@maynor.net> References: <200311121402.hACE2fIw029048@ra.msstate.edu> <001901c3a934$0703f800$e1cadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:10 PM 11/12/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I personally have no knowledge of these matters, having never cooked >either a turkey or dressing in my life. Therein lies a path to freedom and wisdom. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 17:36:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACNau6q001546 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:36:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D02CB1E6024D; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:31:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A29101E60247 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:31:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A423A3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:24:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 59837 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:24:14 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACNOEB27400 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:24:14 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.166.155]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031112232408.HFQM17368.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:24:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB2C119.51F7BE09@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:24:09 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <200311121816.hACIGTB05512@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Thank you Bonnie! And, I might add in re the earlier conversation, nothing > so clearly distinguishes the middle class as the attitude that people who > are worse off deserve it. I'd never thought of that in relation to a particular class. But it for sure is what my RRB&SIL think. My RRB not only thinks they deserve it, but he also thinks the country would be better if the poor died off. He has said that flat out. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 17:37:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACNbB6q001549 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:37:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5A3751E6024D; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:31:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D6591E60247 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:31:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A423B0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:24:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 59847 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:24:29 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACNOTB27431 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:24:29 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-124.gwi.net [216.195.150.124]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hACNORAr028876 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:24:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031112182253.00ba4e20@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:24:31 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <3FB2BD5D.E36BA78F@maynor.net> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7777E@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Yes, there are those stories. U.S. doctors love spreading them, whether >they are true or not true. My RRB has told that story often, but, when >questioned about the source, it turns out that it's never from a >Canadian -- it's from other U.S. doctor friends. > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) It is true that Canadians travel down to the Bangor, Maine hospital for certain testings and procedures that they don't want to have to wait for in Canada. There was an article in the Bangor News a few months ago. It's also true that Mainers travel to Canada to buy prescription drugs. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 17:38:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACNcX6q001581 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:38:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9BE8F1E6024D; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:33:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E70F1E60247 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:33:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A423B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:25:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 59901 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:25:51 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACNPoB27592 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:25:50 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.166.155]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031112232545.HGJU17368.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:25:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB2C17A.60242C81@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:25:46 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dressing References: <20031112192226.54844.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > I have seen pre-stuffed, raw turkeys for sale in > grocery stores here in town. May as well drink > arsenic. The culprit is the poultry "juice". > Uncooked, it makes everything else it touches, toxic. I'm surprised it's not illegal. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 17:39:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACNd96q001592 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:39:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EB79F1E6024D; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:33:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCECC1E60247 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:33:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A423B3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:26:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 59979 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:26:27 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACNQRB27761 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:26:27 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-124.gwi.net [216.195.150.124]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hACNQNAt029243; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:26:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031112182518.00b5c9b0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:26:11 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Espanillegal In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77786@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:20 PM 11/12/2003 -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: >Social Security was never intended to be a permanent program. And of course this makes it unique in the annals of government programs, right? cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 17:42:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACNgw6q001615 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:42:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 875351E6024D; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:37:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57B3C1E60247 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:37:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A423BD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:30:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 60122 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:30:16 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACNUGB28251 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:30:16 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-124.gwi.net [216.195.150.124]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hACNUFAr029931 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:30:15 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031112182849.00bac6a8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:30:18 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Marty and Mary?? In-Reply-To: <3FB2BD5D.E36BA78F@maynor.net> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7777E@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Found it: > >http://www.commondreams.org/views03/1110-12.htm > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Quoting from that article: "As a legal resident, I was entitled to the same high level of health-care benefits enjoyed by all Canadian citizens. I was free to go to any doctor, anywhere, anytime. " My question: Will Marty and Mary be legal residents? What does it take to become a legal resident? I imagine this is different than becoming a Canadian citizen. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 17:43:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACNhb6q001621 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:43:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3FCED1E6024D; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:38:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 123B11E60247 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:38:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A423CC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:30:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 60149 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:30:55 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACNUtB28286 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:30:55 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:30:50 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77788@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Illegal Aliens Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:30:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Karen Kay [mailto:karen@WORDWRITE.COM] >Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 10:19 AM >On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:16:15 -0500, Paul Barfoot > wrote: >>d'accord ! and I loved that her name was Marilyn Whirlwind >- when she >>was often the only one who was calm > >I have no idea what Sarah Vowell looks like, but she reminds >me a lot of >Marilyn. http://images.google.com: Sarah Vowell: http://tinyurl.com/urx1 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 17:43:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACNhd6q001624 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:43:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C40C21E6024D; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:38:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 962CD1E60247 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:38:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A423B2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:30:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 60153 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:30:57 -0500 Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACNUvB28290 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:30:57 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1c4.119536cf (4214) for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:30:45 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1c4.119536cf.2ce41ca5@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:30:45 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Dressing To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/12/2003 5:26:14 PM Central Standard Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << I'm surprised it's not illegal. >> I'll check to see if we have any of that in Tulsa; you would think the Health Department would shut it down. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Bennie 's here! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 17:44:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACNiE6q001628 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:44:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5346F1E60250; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:38:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E541E6024D for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:38:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A423CE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:31:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 60166 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:31:32 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACNVWB28368 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:31:32 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-124.gwi.net [216.195.150.124]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hACNVTGp058446; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:31:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031112182730.00b5b980@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:31:25 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Dressing In-Reply-To: <3FB2C17A.60242C81@maynor.net> References: <20031112192226.54844.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:25 PM 11/12/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Lynne Weber wrote: > > > I have seen pre-stuffed, raw turkeys for sale in > > grocery stores here in town. May as well drink > > arsenic. The culprit is the poultry "juice". > > Uncooked, it makes everything else it touches, toxic. > >I'm surprised it's not illegal. Well, the toxic bit is a dumb statement. I could run that "juice" through an autoclave and it would be perfectly fine. In other words, when contaminated by bacteria (usually E. coli or Salmonella), it is bad news; by itself, it is innocuous. Toxic, in the sense that arsenic or uranium are toxic, no. What they need is a really good irradiation method---but that would put the "organic" types into a frenzy. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 17:44:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACNin6q001634 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:44:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8B7871E6024D; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:39:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E2331E60247 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:39:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A423B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:32:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 60194 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:32:06 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACNW5B28445 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:32:05 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:32:00 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77789@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Breaking News Wed., November 12, 2003 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:31:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Evelyn Duncan [mailto:BrandyKitt@AOL.COM] >Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 10:32 AM >In a message dated 11/12/2003 7:46:37 AM Central Standard Time, >abcnewsnow-editor@mail.abcnews.go.com writes: ><< >Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com: > >EXCLUSIVE: Britney Spears Opens Up to ABCNEWS About Her Music, >Her Heart and >Her Famous Body Parts >>> > >THIS is breaking news? A car bomb, an earthquake, me winning a >million dollars, that is breaking news! But an interview with some >bimbette? Don't forget, this is sweeps. Anything goes. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 17:47:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACNlj6q001674 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:47:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 066161E6024D; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:42:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C899A1E60247 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:42:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A423D9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:35:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 60398 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:35:03 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACNZ3B28823 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:35:03 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.166.155]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031112233458.HKNO17368.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:34:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB2C39C.AD67CF3C@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:34:52 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Meet me in St. Louis References: <3FB2BC22.1040706@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Excellent preliminary details, Rita! Is the list website storing these postings? Do we have a fest name yet? I want to make a file for saving this stuff but don't know what to name it. Maybe I'll just name it Fest04. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 17:49:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACNnD6q001685 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:49:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A31921E60287; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:43:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 608EC1E60253 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:43:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E0522@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:36:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 60487 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:36:30 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACNaUB28971 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:36:30 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.166.155]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031112233622.HLDU17368.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:36:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB2C3F7.226D92B4@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:36:23 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Op Eds References: <001501c3a973$32a652c0$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > Natalie . . there were some op ed pieces > this morning in the NYT that might be of > interest to you. Maybe you saw them. > One cautionary one about angry democrats > and another one concerning Dean and how > other candidates want to get him out of the > picture (or something like that). I think I read them. Early morning seems like a long, long time ago, but they sound familiar. I almost always at least glance at the NYT op-eds. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 17:55:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hACNtC6q001819 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:55:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C9FE51E60287; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:49:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A9731E6025D for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:49:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A423E6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:42:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 60691 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:42:30 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACNgUB29670 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:42:30 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.166.155]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031112234224.HNSK17368.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:42:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB2C562.A69CFABE@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:42:26 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Espanillegal References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77786@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > Social Security was never intended to be a permanent program. It should have been so intended. It's a very good program. > That aside, step back and look at what happened at inception: if someone > started working full time and retired at the "usual" age and began receiving > Social Security checks, how soon do you think they balanced out; i.e., how > long was it before they received as much or more money than they contributed > during their adult life? > > Eighteen months. ?? Your point is? That's how my retirement program works also. I don't know the precise length of time, but it's within a few years that the amount put in has been used up. I know that because that's when the beneficiary no longer matters -- the beneficiary named to get anything left over of what I put in if I die before that's used up. That's why I didn't worry about it when somehow in the mad dash of paper-shuffling, the Starkville Community Theatre ended up as my primary beneficiary when it was supposed to have been the Oktibbeha County Humane Society. I would have had the error reversed, but I don't plan on dying before the money is used up and the beneficiary becomes moot. And if I do, the SCT is a fine recipient. The OCHS would still get quite a bit of money from me. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 18:13:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAD0DX6q001984 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:13:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7EF901E602C1; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:08:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB611E6028F for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:08:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4246A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:00:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 61613 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:00:50 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAD00oB31467 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:00:50 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAD00le6014779 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:00:49 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002801c3a979$322183a0$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200311121816.hACIGTB05512@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FB2C119.51F7BE09@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: middle-classed Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:00:46 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I'd never thought of that in relation to a particular class. But it for > sure is what my RRB&SIL think. My RRB not only thinks they deserve it, > but he also thinks the country would be better if the poor died off. He > has said that flat out. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Something occurred to me one day. I had thought that you your brother because he is a Republican. I wonder if it isn't more likely that you hate Republicans because you your brother . . and you think all Republicans are like your brother. I know a lot of Republicans and never heard one voice the many opinions or show the attitudes you attribute to your brother. I have also wondered if your brother says some of these things just to get you going. Some brothers are like that. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 18:56:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAD0uw6q002403 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:56:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C8AE81E60294; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:51:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99EB11E6028F for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:51:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4254F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:44:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 63710 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:44:16 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAD0iFB03575 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:44:16 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.166.155]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031113004410.VHVA20993.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:44:10 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB2D3DB.F802D4D5@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:44:11 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7777E@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031112182253.00ba4e20@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > It is true that Canadians travel down to the Bangor, Maine hospital for > certain testings and procedures that they don't want to have to wait for in > Canada. There was an article in the Bangor News a few months ago. It's > also true that Mainers travel to Canada to buy prescription drugs. It's certainly true that some people drive to another place rather than waiting. People here do it frequently if they want to see a dermatologist without waiting several months since that's how long you have to wait to see one in Columbus. Re prescriptions, what's the latest on ordering medicines from Canada? I've never really investigated it since I don't have high prescription bills (yet), and I haven't followed the news extremely closely. But I've read/heard a few things lately about how it used to be legal to order drugs from Canada but now isn't. Is that true? What about doing it in person? Like should I have taken a prescription when I went to Canada last summer and gotten a big supply of my eye drops? I do remember saying something to my ophthalmologist one time about how the eye drops could be a hassle if I did something like go to Japan for another year. He said that most countries have exactly the same medicines we have and that the only difference is that they're normally cheaper in other countries. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 19:00:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAD10Z6q002438 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:00:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 81C881E6028F; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:55:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 538421E6028D for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:55:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E0662@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:47:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 63954 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:47:52 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAD0lqB04059 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:47:52 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.166.155]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031113004747.VJVK20993.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:47:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB2D4B4.2E070E0C@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:47:48 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Marty and Mary?? References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7777E@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031112182849.00bac6a8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > >Found it: > > > >http://www.commondreams.org/views03/1110-12.htm > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > Quoting from that article: > > "As a legal resident, I was entitled to the same high level of health-care > benefits enjoyed by all Canadian citizens. I was free to go to any doctor, > anywhere, anytime. " > > My question: Will Marty and Mary be legal residents? What does it take to > become a legal resident? I imagine this is different than becoming a > Canadian citizen. I would assume that as long as they're still living/working in the US, they'll be tourists rather than legal residents in Canada. But what about if they retire there and are full-time residents? I think we've discussed this before. In fact I'm sure we have, because I remember saying that I can't imagine that Canada would say "come on in and enjoy our superior health-care situation" to anybody who decided to retire there. Iirc, BrP had some answers, but I don't remember what they were. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 19:14:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAD1Ef6q002627 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:14:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A7BE21E602C1; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:07:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79BEB1E6025B for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:07:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A42591@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:00:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 64496 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:00:19 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAD10IB05299 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:00:18 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAD10H8b018697 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:00:17 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAD10HfC010748 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:00:17 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:00:07 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: God and Caesar Message-ID: <60553109.1068667207@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <000a01c3a884$95530020$e1cadece@0018079268> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031111134225.00b62090@pop.gwi.net> <000a01c3a884$95530020$e1cadece@0018079268> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > And what if you got nothing out of > the sermon? I sat through some when > the minister should have paid me for > sitting there. > > - D. M. Amen! Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 19:19:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAD1J16q002719 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:19:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 95A761E602C1; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:13:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F7791E6029E for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:13:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E06AC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:06:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 64648 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:05:56 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAD15uB05797 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:05:56 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.166.155]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031113010547.MYZU20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:05:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB2D8EC.55F0A61C@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:05:48 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <200311121816.hACIGTB05512@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FB2C119.51F7BE09@maynor.net> <002801c3a979$322183a0$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > Something occurred to me one day. I had thought > that you your brother > because he is a Republican. ?????? Heavens, no! That would be ridiculous. If it were true, why wouldn't I hate all Republicans? Although I know very few Republicans in my day-to-day life, one person I consider one of my very best friends sometimes votes Republican. (He calls himself an Independent, but some of us kid him by calling him our token Republican.) I don't even hate all Republican politicians. And I've voted for some of them. Even some of those that I didn't vote for and that I thought I didn't like look pretty good to me now when compared with the current nightmare in Washington. Daddy George for one. > I wonder if it isn't more likely that you hate Republicans > because you your brother . . > and you think all Republicans are like your brother. No, all Republicans aren't like my brother. And I don't hate all Republicans. I have talked about my brother's Republicanism for several reasons, chief of which is that there's something amusing in a sad sort of way to see a living, breathing stereotype. He is a stereotypical Republican. Sort of a caricature. Another thing that's funny was his entry into the political world. He knew zilch about political parties (and still knows zilch about what's going on in the world). Ditto my RRSIL. They got involved at the local level by discovering that if they gave a bunch of money to a candidate who won, they would reap rewards. I'm sure I must have told here before about my brother's statement back then: (something close to) "Now I understand why people get involved in politics! We gave $X to [somebody], and because of that we now know about a new highway in the plans and which property it's going to cut through. We were therefore able to buy out a bunch of land that will be worth millions in a couple of years." > I know a lot of Republicans and never heard one voice > the many opinions or show the attitudes you attribute to > your brother. Not all of them necessarily have all of his exact opinions/attitudes. And certainly not all would voice them openly. But look at the "starve the beast" philosophy, etc. > I have also wondered if your brother says some of > these things just to get you going. Some brothers are > like that. No. He thinks I'm despicable because I have spent my life . Long before he knew Republican vs Democrat, he was calling me a "Communist." He thinks I am low-life personified. He truly dislikes and scorns people like me. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 19:21:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAD1Lv6q002748 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:21:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3F31B1E602C7; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:16:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05A4A1E602C1 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:16:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A425E7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:09:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 65184 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:09:14 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAD19EB06928 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:09:14 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.166.155]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031113010905.NACE20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:09:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB2D9B2.C600477F@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:09:06 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: TONY: ARE YOU IN BRAZIL? References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7777E@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031112182849.00bac6a8@pop.gwi.net> <3FB2D4B4.2E070E0C@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This is just a sample posting to draw you into this discussion. We need you. Natalie Maynor wrote: > > bonniev wrote: > > > > >Found it: > > > > > >http://www.commondreams.org/views03/1110-12.htm > > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > > > Quoting from that article: > > > > "As a legal resident, I was entitled to the same high level of health-care > > benefits enjoyed by all Canadian citizens. I was free to go to any doctor, > > anywhere, anytime. " > > > > My question: Will Marty and Mary be legal residents? What does it take to > > become a legal resident? I imagine this is different than becoming a > > Canadian citizen. > > I would assume that as long as they're still living/working in the US, > they'll be tourists rather than legal residents in Canada. But what > about if they retire there and are full-time residents? I think we've > discussed this before. In fact I'm sure we have, because I remember > saying that I can't imagine that Canada would say "come on in and enjoy > our superior health-care situation" to anybody who decided to retire > there. Iirc, BrP had some answers, but I don't remember what they > were. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 19:23:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAD1Nn6q002774 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:23:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0246D1E602C6; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:18:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C567B1E602C1 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:18:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A425F3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:11:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 65317 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:11:06 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAD1B6B07173 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:11:06 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-124.gwi.net [216.195.150.124]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAD1B4Ar047898 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:11:05 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031112200734.00bbccd0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:11:07 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <3FB2D3DB.F802D4D5@maynor.net> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7777E@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031112182253.00ba4e20@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Re prescriptions, what's the latest on ordering medicines from Canada? >I've never really investigated it since I don't have high prescription >bills (yet), and I haven't followed the news extremely closely. > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I don't know either. We don't have any prescription bills. But a couple we know drive just across the border of Maine and New Brunswick every month or so to get Fosomax for her and a couple of things that he needs because he is a diabetic. I think with them it's something about having a relationship with a pharmacy in the Canadian border town. The pharmacy has a relationship with a physician who passes through the prescriptions that her American colleague writes. Or something like that. CBS's Sunday Morning just has a piece on this focusing on a bus trip that leaves from Detroit with folks from around the US who go into Canada for their drugs. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 19:57:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAD1vc6q003207 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:57:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5E6D31E602CB; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:52:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 290A41E60251 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:52:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A42636@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:44:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 66354 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:44:55 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAD1itB10813 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:44:55 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E0714@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:44:54 -0500 Message-Id: <200311130144.hAD1itB10813@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:44:55 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: middle-classed To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:00:46 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: >> >> I'd never thought of that in relation to a particular class. But it >for >> sure is what my RRB&SIL think. My RRB not only thinks they deserve >it, >> but he also thinks the country would be better if the poor died off. >He >> has said that flat out. >> >> -- >> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > >Something occurred to me one day. I had thought >that you your brother >because he is a Republican. > >I wonder if it isn't more likely that you hate Republicans >because you your brother . . >and you think all Republicans are like your brother. Perhaps not all, but certainly many. >I know a lot of Republicans and never heard one voice >the many opinions or show the attitudes you attribute to >your brother. You don't listen closely enough then. I will introduce you to my uncle the next time Fest is in LA, or perhaps six random voters on the street in any random town. >I have also wondered if your brother says some of >these things just to get you going. Some brothers are >like that. This is also a possibility. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 20:02:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAD22t6q003257 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:02:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 676E01E602CB; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:57:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF1F1E60256 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:57:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4264C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:50:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 66576 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:50:12 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAD1oCB11432 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:50:12 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAD1o8v8018303 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:50:09 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:51:02 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <834536342.20031112195102@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Illegal Aliens In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77788@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77788@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 12, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: >>From: Karen Kay [mailto:karen@WORDWRITE.COM] >>Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 10:19 AM >>On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:16:15 -0500, Paul Barfoot >> wrote: >>>d'accord ! and I loved that her name was Marilyn Whirlwind >>- when she >>>was often the only one who was calm >> >>I have no idea what Sarah Vowell looks like, but she reminds >>me a lot of >>Marilyn. > http://images.google.com: > Sarah Vowell: http://tinyurl.com/urx1 I don't want to know what she looks like. Moreover, I don't care. You totally missed the point. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 20:05:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAD25k6q003276 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:05:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 366761E602CB; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:00:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9EC81E60256 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:00:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4265F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:53:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 66786 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:53:03 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAD1r3B12083 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:53:03 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E0735@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:53:02 -0500 Message-Id: <200311130153.hAD1r3B12083@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:53:03 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: middle-classed To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:05:48 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I'm sure I must have told here before about my brother's statement back >then: (something close to) "Now I understand why people get involved in >politics! We gave $X to [somebody], and because of that we now know >about a new highway in the plans and which property it's going to cut >through. We were therefore able to buy out a bunch of land that will be >worth millions in a couple of years." > I love it, and I truly hope that the politician he donated to has been talking to someone like my FIL, who brought the water pipeline from Ontario to Syracuse in six million $$ under budget by "leaking" the wrong route, so that politicians invested heavily in land that is still primarily agricultural! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 20:06:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAD26Z6q003289 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:06:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CC9E11E60256; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:01:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AD451E602CB for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:01:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4267F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:53:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 66828 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:53:52 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAD1rpB12231 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:53:51 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAD1rfl6001187 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:53:44 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:54:42 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <42167022.20031112195442@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031112200734.00bbccd0@pop.gwi.net> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7777E@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031112182253.00ba4e20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031112200734.00bbccd0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 12, 2003, bonniev wrote: > CBS's Sunday Morning just has a piece on this focusing on a bus trip that > leaves from Detroit with folks from around the US who go into Canada for > their drugs. A bus trip from Detroit to Canada would be pretty short. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 20:11:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAD2BP6q003333 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:11:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DC67A1E602CC; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:05:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD8FB1E602CB for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:05:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A42676@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:58:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 67034 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:58:42 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAD1wfB12930 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:58:42 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:58:36 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7778A@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: middle-classed Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:58:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] >Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 8:55 PM >On Wednesday, November 12, 2003, bonniev wrote: >> CBS's Sunday Morning just has a piece on this focusing on a >bus trip that >> leaves from Detroit with folks from around the US who go >into Canada for >> their drugs. > >A bus trip from Detroit to Canada would be pretty short. Over the Ambassador bridge & back. The longest part of the trip would be answering questions at the border. "What are you doing here?" "How long will you be staying?" During the juggling festivals in suburban Detroit, we cross for casinos. The only time we knew someone who got into trouble was when they asked if it was okay to bring flammable liquids back to use with their torches. (their car was taken aside & emptied to see what else they had. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 20:13:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAD2DU6q003363 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:13:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7C7481E602CC; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:07:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E3581E602CB for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:07:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E077C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:00:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 67131 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:00:46 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAD20kB13099 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:00:46 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAD20fv8029739 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:00:44 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:01:35 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1648639685.20031112200135@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7778A@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7778A@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 12, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: >>A bus trip from Detroit to Canada would be pretty short. > Over the Ambassador bridge & back. Or through the tunnel. I can't believe I don't remember the name of the tunnel. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 20:17:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAD2HC6q003407 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:17:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 542361E602CE; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:11:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25C791E602CD for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:11:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A42683@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:04:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 66848 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:04:29 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAD1sQB12305 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:54:26 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAD1rd3W027719 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:53:40 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:54:24 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: God and Caesar In-Reply-To: <60553109.1068667207@TWild.uri.edu> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031111134225.00b62090@pop.gwi.net> <000a01c3a884$95530020$e1cadece@0018079268> <60553109.1068667207@TWild.uri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Terry Wild wrote: >> And what if you got nothing out of >> the sermon? I sat through some when >> the minister should have paid me for >> sitting there. > >Amen! Why all the focus on the sermon to the exclusion of the rest of the service? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 20:22:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAD2Mg6q003455 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:22:42 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 03DFB1E602CC; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:17:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4FE01E602CB for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:17:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4269C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:09:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 67375 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:09:58 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAD29wB13884 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:09:58 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.166.155]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031113020948.KDYG17368.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:09:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB2E7EE.32A5E90F@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:09:50 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <200311130153.hAD1r3B12083@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > I love it, and I truly hope that the politician he donated to has been talking > to someone like my FIL, who brought the water pipeline from Ontario to Syracuse > in six million $$ under budget by "leaking" the wrong route, so that > politicians invested heavily in land that is still primarily agricultural! Nope. They made bundles on that first excursion into politics. I have tons of funny stories about their ignorance of the world's goings-on, or even the country's goings-on, while they nevertheless are zipping on private jets to parties in Washington and hobnobbing with all the big-name Republicans (and even some Democrats at certain kinds of parties -- I think I mentioned before asking my RRB what he and Ted Kennedy found to talk about when he said he had talked to him at some kind of Washington party -- he said they talked about eyes). I know I told the story here of the time my RRSIL was escorted into Reagan's hotel suite at some kind of function in California when Reagan was Pres. He had invited her to visit, and they had a one-on-one chat, during which he said to her something like "I certainly hope you're going to help me with this Bork matter." She laughingly told me about it saying that she didn't say to him, "Who's Bork?" but that that was what she kept wondering. (This was when Bork's name was a household word in the US, at least among the conscious.) And re : I was talking to my RRSIL one time about one of their fleet of servants who is extremely bright and energetic and hard working and who had told me one time that she would love to go to college. I told my RRSIL that I was confident that this person could get some kind of scholarship to UAH. My RRSIL looked at me with daggers in her eyes and said, "DON'T tell HER that. I need her." She was dead serious. She needed her for scrubbing their fine toilets. (They do pay their slaves well and give them lavish gifts. I can't fault them on that.) The stories could go on and on and on. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 20:23:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAD2Nk6q003459 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:23:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 87F4C1E60293; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:18:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 411031E60261 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:18:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A42691@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:11:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 67419 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:11:02 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAD2B2B14050 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:11:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.166.155]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031113021051.KELB17368.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:10:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB2E82D.3B47F07B@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:10:53 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7777E@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031112182253.00ba4e20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031112200734.00bbccd0@pop.gwi.net> <42167022.20031112195442@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > On Wednesday, November 12, 2003, bonniev wrote: > > CBS's Sunday Morning just has a piece on this focusing on a bus trip that > > leaves from Detroit with folks from around the US who go into Canada for > > their drugs. > > A bus trip from Detroit to Canada would be pretty short. Wouldn't that be the point of choosing a city like Detroit for people to gather in for the busride across the border? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 20:45:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAD2jt6q003705 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:45:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 340E51E602CC; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:40:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 043401E602CD for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:40:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E07B1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:33:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 68015 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:33:12 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAD2XBB15769 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:33:11 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:33:06 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7778B@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: middle-classed Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:33:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] >Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 9:10 PM >going to help me with this Bork matter." She laughingly told me about >it saying that she didn't say to him, "Who's Bork?" but that that was >what she kept wondering. (This was when Bork's name was a household >word in the US, at least among the conscious.) Even moreso for the people who suddenly found excuses to try and use the word "ukase" (but didn't know what the word meant). Likely the same people who put Hawking's works on the best-seller list yet leave them on their coffee table(s). Name-dropping is one thing, but "book dropping"? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 20:53:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAD2rw6q003847 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:53:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 75E9D1E6025F; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:48:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F901E60051 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:48:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A426DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:41:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 68326 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:41:14 -0500 Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (imo-r05.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAD2fEB16604 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:41:14 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.17e.22cdc5ff (25711) for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:41:01 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <17e.22cdc5ff.2ce4493d@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:41:01 EST Subject: Re: Dressing To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/12/2003 5:11:19 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >I personally have no knowledge of these matters, having never cooked >either a turkey or dressing in my life. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > --------- I've cooked very few in my life, only when the children were still at home; so I wouldn't know either, and what's more, it doesn't interest me one bit! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 21:04:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAD34X6q003903 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:04:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 504E51E60296; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:59:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19B541E60051 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:59:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E0812@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:51:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 68667 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:51:48 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAD2pmB17504 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:51:48 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:51:42 PST Message-ID: <20031113025142.44891.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:51:42 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Dressing To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FB2C17A.60242C81@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > I'm surprised it's not illegal. It is. The Health Department was not aware of the situation, and claims not to be able to police everything. One well-timed call to the turkey Nazis seems to have done the trick - and I was not the squealer. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 21:08:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAD3826q003929 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:08:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1440F1E60296; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:02:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAD7B1E60051 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:02:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A42725@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:55:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 68768 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:55:19 -0500 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAD2tJB17911 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:55:19 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.146.1c52f5d9 (25711) for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:55:10 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <146.1c52f5d9.2ce44c8e@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:55:10 EST Subject: Re: middle-classed To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/12/2003 6:00:57 PM, dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM writes: >I have also wondered if your brother says some of >>these things just to get you going. Some brothers are >>like that. >> - D. M. >At times I've been grateful for not having brothers, and this is one of them! Theo > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 21:13:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAD3DH6q003980 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:13:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3B6281E60296; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:07:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE771E60051 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:07:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A42743@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:00:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 69048 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:00:32 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAD309B18603 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:00:09 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAD3045Z022298 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:00:09 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:00:46 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1383766856.20031112210046@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <3FB2E82D.3B47F07B@maynor.net> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7777E@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031112182253.00ba4e20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031112200734.00bbccd0@pop.gwi.net> <42167022.20031112195442@WordWrite.com> <3FB2E82D.3B47F07B@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 12, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> >> On Wednesday, November 12, 2003, bonniev wrote: >> > CBS's Sunday Morning just has a piece on this focusing on a bus trip that >> > leaves from Detroit with folks from around the US who go into Canada for >> > their drugs. >> >> A bus trip from Detroit to Canada would be pretty short. > Wouldn't that be the point of choosing a city like Detroit for people to > gather in for the busride across the border? If you got yourself to Detroit, why couldn't you get across the border by yourself? They speak English in Ontario, you know. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 21:19:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAD3JB6q004047 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:19:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 181FA1E602CC; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:13:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9DCF1E60298 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:13:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A42754@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:06:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 69265 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:06:28 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAD36SB19191 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:06:28 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.166.155]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031113030622.LDHA17368.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:06:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB2F52D.8494458F@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:06:21 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7778B@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > >going to help me with this Bork matter." She laughingly told me about > >it saying that she didn't say to him, "Who's Bork?" but that that was > >what she kept wondering. (This was when Bork's name was a household > >word in the US, at least among the conscious.) > > Even moreso for the people who suddenly found excuses to try and use the > word "ukase" (but didn't know what the word meant). > > Likely the same people who put Hawking's works on the best-seller list yet > leave them on their coffee table(s). > > Name-dropping is one thing, but "book dropping"? Even moreso what? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 21:22:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAD3MW6q004118 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:22:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 150421E60298; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:17:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93FA21E60051 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:16:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A42755@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:09:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 69383 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:09:38 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAD39bB19451 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:09:37 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.166.155]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031113030932.LEOD17368.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:09:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB2F5ED.A0301562@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:09:33 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7777E@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031112182253.00ba4e20@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031112200734.00bbccd0@pop.gwi.net> <42167022.20031112195442@WordWrite.com> <3FB2E82D.3B47F07B@maynor.net> <1383766856.20031112210046@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > >> A bus trip from Detroit to Canada would be pretty short. > > > Wouldn't that be the point of choosing a city like Detroit for people to > > gather in for the busride across the border? > > If you got yourself to Detroit, why couldn't you get across the border > by yourself? They speak English in Ontario, you know. Lots of people like doing things in groups. Tours are big business, even to places where the tour members speak the language. Some people are just into herd stuff. I can't understand doing it myself, but I have no problem imagining people who would choose that route if seeing an ad for a "meet in Detroit to go buy your drugs in Canada" tour. They'd have somebody to shepherd them across the border, direct them to the pharmacy, etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 21:37:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAD3bY6q004241 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:37:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 829441E60296; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:32:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F4731E60051 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:32:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A42783@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:24:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 69830 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:24:50 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAD3OoB21053 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:24:50 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:24:45 PST Message-ID: <20031113032445.21640.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:24:45 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Dressing To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031112182730.00b5b980@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > Well, the toxic bit is a dumb statement. I could > run that "juice" through > an autoclave and it would be perfectly fine. In > other words, when > contaminated by bacteria (usually E. coli or > Salmonella), it is bad news; > by itself, it is innocuous. Toxic, in the sense > that arsenic or uranium > are toxic, no. I see two viable commercial possibilities here. Come Share Thanksgiving Dinner with Us at the Bar Harbor House of Holidays. Turkey and All the Trimmings Autoclaved to Perfection by Chef Clyde. or For Your Thanksgiving Musical Pleasure - Dine in luxurious surroundings while listening to the virtuoso performance of Dr. Clyde on his authentic old world autoclavicle. Pilgrims' Paeans featured. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 21:59:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAD3x36q004471 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:59:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 020671E602CC; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:53:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C72581E6029C for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:53:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A427D6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:46:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 70851 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:46:19 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAD3kJB23334 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:46:19 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:46:13 PST Message-ID: <20031113034613.6308.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:46:13 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Dressing To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <17e.22cdc5ff.2ce4493d@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Theo Groothof wrote: > I've cooked very few in my life, only when the > children were still at home; > so I wouldn't know either, and what's more, it > doesn't interest me one bit! This is because, by your own admission, food holds no interest for you, which also probably means you were an indifferent cook. Do any of your children have any interest in cooking? If food were more interesting to you, you would be able to gain weight. Often, putting a new spin on a drab old dish will stimulate the appetite. For instance, just consider a can of cream of celery coup and find all the dishes you can create with such a lowly item. You might be pleasantly surprised. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 22:01:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAD41H6q004515 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:01:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5B4411E60299; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:55:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C6171E60262 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:55:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A427CC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:48:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 70892 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:48:02 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAD3m2B23522 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:48:02 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAD3lrl6026956 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:47:54 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:48:43 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1058169905.20031112214843@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Dressing In-Reply-To: <20031113034613.6308.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031113034613.6308.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 12, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > For instance, just consider a can of cream of celery coup and find > all the dishes you can create with such a lowly item. You might be > pleasantly surprised. I'd rather have my fingernails pulled out with pliers. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 22:02:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAD42i6q004535 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:02:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5F5F81E60299; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:57:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 301381E60004 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:57:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A427E1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:50:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 70967 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:50:00 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAD3o0B23802 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:50:00 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:49:55 PST Message-ID: <20031113034955.3065.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:49:55 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Hooray, Bennie Day To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1d0.142ee32f.2ce3ee22@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > So far, things have been quiet here between the two > of them. > I guess he's glad he's out of that cage, and Sweetie > is glad > that Bennie is her size. How are things, now that a few hours have passed? Is Sweetie "being haved"? Is Bennie educated in matters of the WC? Pay give us a progress report. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 22:04:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAD44i6q004553 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:04:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B22601E602CC; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:59:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C4031E60004 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:59:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A427EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:52:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 71083 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:52:01 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAD3pxB24059 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:51:59 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:51:54 PST Message-ID: <20031113035154.98987.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:51:54 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Dressing To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1058169905.20031112214843@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > On Wednesday, November 12, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > > For instance, just consider a can of cream of > celery coup and find > > all the dishes you can create with such a lowly > item. You might be > > pleasantly surprised. Oh my dear, no culinary creativity or curiosity? Personally, I would rather be nibbled by little bitty ducks, but there is a starting place for everything. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 22:12:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAD4C36q004598 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:12:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 016751E602CF; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:06:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA7211E602CC for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:06:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A42828@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:59:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 71744 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:59:19 -0500 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAD3xIB24941 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:59:19 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.7b.1c75e3cb (24895) for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:59:02 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <7b.1c75e3cb.2ce45b86@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:59:02 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Hooray, Bennie Day To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/12/2003 9:50:21 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << How are things, now that a few hours have passed? Is Sweetie "being haved"? Is Bennie educated in matters of the WC? Pay give us a progress report. >> No hisses from her end, but she did try to hide under my desk, and I told her I'm not feeding her under there. Bennie had one accident, easily cleaned. The guy at the shelter said that the dogs all have to be retrained. He just pooped, and he has worms. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Bennie 's here! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 22:14:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAD4EL6q004613 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:14:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A1AD21E602CE; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:08:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 740621E602CC for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:08:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A428BF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 23:01:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 72809 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 23:01:37 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAD41bB25645 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 23:01:37 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAD41Ye6001578 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:01:35 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000c01c3a99a$d4196e40$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200311130144.hAD1itB10813@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Subject: Re: Re: middle-classed Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:01:34 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > >I know a lot of Republicans and never heard one voice > >the many opinions or show the attitudes you attribute to > >your brother. > > You don't listen closely enough then. I will introduce you to my uncle the > next time Fest is in LA, or perhaps six random voters on the street in any > random town. > > clo Then you don't know people of the caliber that I know. There are reasonable people with class in both parties and those seem to be the ones I have crossed paths with. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 22:17:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAD4HV6q004656 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:17:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BE95C1E602CE; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:11:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 905D91E6029B for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:11:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A42954@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 23:04:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 74132 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 23:04:47 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAD44lB26423 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 23:04:47 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAD44dl6017546 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:04:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:05:27 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1705730682.20031112220527@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <000c01c3a99a$d4196e40$e1cadece@0018079268> References: <200311130144.hAD1itB10813@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <000c01c3a99a$d4196e40$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 12, 2003, Doris Markland wrote: > There are reasonable people with class > in both parties and those seem to be the > ones I have crossed paths with. But those are clearly not the majority of either party. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 22:21:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAD4LL6q004691 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:21:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A60751E602CE; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:15:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76C061E6029B for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:15:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E0B67@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 23:08:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 75534 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 23:08:37 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAD48bB27113 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 23:08:37 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAD48Ye6018992 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:08:35 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001e01c3a99b$cead6140$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031111134225.00b62090@pop.gwi.net> <000a01c3a884$95530020$e1cadece@0018079268> <60553109.1068667207@TWild.uri.edu> Subject: Re: Re: God and Caesar Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:08:34 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Terry Wild wrote: > > >> And what if you got nothing out of > >> the sermon? I sat through some when > >> the minister should have paid me for > >> sitting there. > > > >Amen! > > Why all the focus on the sermon to the exclusion of the rest of the > service? > > Bethany I'm sorry to say I considered the rest of the service "filler," assuming that once we had all the singing and readings out of the way that something important would be said. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 22:28:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAD4SI6q004777 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:28:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5766E1E602D0; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:22:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2377B1E602CF for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:22:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A42A7D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 23:15:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 76239 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 23:15:34 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAD4FYB27995 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 23:15:34 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAD4FQv8007880 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:15:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:16:09 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1456165405.20031112221609@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: God and Caesar In-Reply-To: <001e01c3a99b$cead6140$e1cadece@0018079268> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031111134225.00b62090@pop.gwi.net> <000a01c3a884$95530020$e1cadece@0018079268> <60553109.1068667207@TWild.uri.edu> <001e01c3a99b$cead6140$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 12, 2003, Doris Markland wrote: > I'm sorry to say I considered the rest of the > service "filler," assuming that once we had all > the singing and readings out of the way that > something important would be said. LOL. The question of scripture came up in our discussion of vocal worship last week, and one of the speakers said that when he thought of scripture, he though of the Bible, the Quran, some Buddhist sutras, and the collected works of Groucho Marx. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 23:45:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAD5js6q005662 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 23:45:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9F9751E602D2; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 23:40:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 722C71E60003 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 23:40:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E0D16@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 0:33:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 79846 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 00:32:18 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAD54aB01362 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 00:04:36 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:04:31 PST Message-ID: <20031113050431.22003.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:04:31 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: middle-classed To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <000c01c3a99a$d4196e40$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > Then you don't know people of the > caliber that I know. > > There are reasonable people with class > in both parties and those seem to be the > ones I have crossed paths with. > > - D. M. This has always seemed to be the case to me, as well. I can't imagine going through life embracing or discarding people because of their politics. That seems to be both a narrowing and harrowing way to regard life and its populace. There are times when I find that hand-wringing and hair-pulling almost as alarming as the vile motives and satanic tactics of the "enemy". __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 23:46:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAD5k76q005665 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 23:46:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9B0741E602D6; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 23:40:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D2711E602D5 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 23:40:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A42C33@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 0:33:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 80173 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 00:32:25 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAD58qB01800 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 00:08:52 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:08:47 PST Message-ID: <20031113050847.6434.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:08:47 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: middle-classed To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1705730682.20031112220527@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > On Wednesday, November 12, 2003, Doris Markland > wrote: > > There are reasonable people with class > > in both parties and those seem to be the > > ones I have crossed paths with. > > But those are clearly not the majority of either > party. > > Karen Ah, yes. The mindless, unreasoning, unwashed majority, whose rights must be defended to the death, but who should not be included in polite gatherings. The cerebral minority knows best how to handle these complicated matters, anyway. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 12 23:47:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAD5l56q005671 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 23:47:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B75661E602D4; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 23:41:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 899781E602D2 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 23:41:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A42C9F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 0:34:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 80466 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 00:32:53 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAD5KUB02487 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 00:20:30 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAD5KU8b023826 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 00:20:30 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAD5K7fC014253 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 00:20:30 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 00:19:57 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: God and Caesar Message-ID: <76143296.1068682797@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031111134225.00b62090@pop.gwi.net> <000a01c3a884$95530020$e1cadece@0018079268> <60553109.1068667207@TWild.uri.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Why all the focus on the sermon to the exclusion of the rest of the > service? > > Bethany Anybody can read scripture and recite prayers and get their own interpretation. It is the sharing of interpretations and ideas, which from my RC upbringing was what a sermon was/is, that is interesting, at least to me. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 00:30:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAD6U86q006127 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 00:30:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3F58D1E6000D; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 00:24:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11CAA1E60009 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 00:24:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A42DA4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 1:17:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 83120 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 01:17:23 -0500 Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAD6HMB09598 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 01:17:22 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.19f.1cf46efa (4584) for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 01:17:06 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <19f.1cf46efa.2ce47be1@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 01:17:05 EST Subject: Re: Dressing To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/12/2003 9:46:38 PM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: >This is because, by your own admission, food holds no >interest for you, which also probably means you were >an indifferent cook. Do any of your children have any >interest in cooking? > >If food were more interesting to you, you would be >able to gain weight. Often, putting a new spin on a >drab old dish will stimulate the appetite. For >instance, just consider a can of cream of celery coup >and find all the dishes you can create with such a >lowly item. You might be pleasantly surprised. > -------------- You are completely wrong. I'm a good cook, and my family never complained about my dishes. It's because I lost over 1/2 of my stomach because of the accident. Therefor it fills up very quickly, and you have no appetite with a full stomach. Even my doctor agreed with that. I also lost a lot more of other internal organs, which causes trouble if I eat too much. You have no idea how lucky you are to be in one piece! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 05:41:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADBfA6q008934 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 05:41:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9D5141E6029A; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 05:35:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A76F1E602DC for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 05:35:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A430F5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 6:28:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 90946 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 06:28:23 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADBSNB02061 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 06:28:23 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.158.115]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031113112816.CABM20993.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 06:28:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB36A57.75E27505@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 05:26:15 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <20031113050431.22003.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > There are times when I > find that hand-wringing and hair-pulling almost as > alarming as the vile motives and satanic tactics of > the "enemy". You might enjoy reading one of those columns Doris mentioned last night. (I would give you the url except that I'm operating on limited capacity this morning. I am alarmed that my DSL isn't working. Supposedly that happens from time to time -- that something is down, but I have found it totally reliable -- never down, which leads me to worry about my own computer/modem. Anyway, I am not doing my usual web-browsing this morning. Will hope it's back to normal when I get home this afternoon.) But back to my point. I checked last night to see whether I had in fact read those NYT columns Doris mentioned. I had. The one I think you might find interesting was about polarization of the parties in the U.S. and how it's becoming like "Old Europe." It started out talking about during the Clinton years how Republicans seemed to be et-up with hate of the man. Then it went on to say that Democrats are now like that re Dubya. I remember wondering about that re Clinton when I first started hearing what sounded like hate and then all that hooplah about his sex life, like it showed him somehow . I'd never noticed such reactions to a Pres before. And, of course, it's clear that many people really dislike Dubya personally -- not just his policies, etc., but the person himself. I certainly do. (I didn't when he was elected. I thought he was a who would muddle along and not get us into too much trouble before fizzling out as a do-nothing Pres. I obviously don't feel that way now. I find his lying and callousness disgusting beyond words.) Anyway, as I said, and as this column said, this kind of polarization seems to be somewhat recent and that it's not a good thing. I think I mentioned Daddy George last night, saying that he looked good to me compared to Dubya. Even though I did not vote for him, did not think he was a good Pres, and was happy when he lost, I never felt any extreme dislike of him or extreme concern about what he was doing. There have always been extremists in both parties who no doubt were into hand-wringing during all administrations, but I think they were an almost unnoticeable minority. The other column Doris mentioned is one I had glanced at and found boring. It was by Safire, whom I often find boring/shallow, especially when he gets into talking about language (which he wasn't this time). He was rehashing the Hilary-conspiracy thing, re her desire to be Pres, and how she and Bill were trying to manipulate the goings-on in this election to heighten her chances to run/win in '08. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 06:10:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADCAE6q009205 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 06:10:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C32FB1E602A8; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 06:04:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 918E71E60267 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 06:04:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A43126@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 6:57:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 91567 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 06:57:26 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADBvQB04184 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 06:57:26 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hADBvOxu007610 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 03:57:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FB3715A.4010502@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 05:56:10 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: God and Caesar References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031111134225.00b62090@pop.gwi.net> <000a01c3a884$95530020$e1cadece@0018079268> <60553109.1068667207@TWild.uri.edu> <76143296.1068682797@TWild.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Terry Wild wrote: >> Why all the focus on the sermon to the exclusion of the rest of the >> service? >> >> Bethany > > > Anybody can read scripture and recite prayers and get their own > interpretation. It is the sharing of interpretations and ideas, which from > my RC upbringing was what a sermon was/is, that is interesting, at least to > me. Many times I don't hear the sermon -- I'm downstairs doing stuff with the kids. I have my favorite/most meaningful parts of the service -- which involve prayer. The sermon is more intellectual than spiritual. It is fun when Rich and I have had some sort of raging debate about something and it shows up in the sermon, though ;). -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 06:17:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADCHC6q009284 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 06:17:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4E7F81E602A8; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 06:11:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 216F61E60267 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 06:11:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E1181@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 7:04:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 91854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:04:18 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADC4IB23406 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:04:18 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hADC4F5Z012620 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 06:04:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 06:04:59 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1639440641.20031113060459@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <20031113050431.22003.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031113050431.22003.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 12, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Doris Markland wrote: >> Then you don't know people of the >> caliber that I know. >> >> There are reasonable people with class >> in both parties and those seem to be the >> ones I have crossed paths with. >> >> - D. M. > This has always seemed to be the case to me, as well. > I can't imagine going through life embracing or > discarding people because of their politics. Politics is different from party affiliation. I find that I don't care about party affiliation, but I do care very much about politics and certainly use it as a criterion for 'embracing or discarding people'. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 06:17:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADCHY6q009295 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 06:17:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 921841E602A8; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 06:11:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64A8C1E60267 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 06:11:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E117A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 7:04:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 91520 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:04:47 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADBslB04030 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 06:54:47 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hADBs03W032032 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 06:54:02 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 06:54:45 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: God and Caesar In-Reply-To: <001e01c3a99b$cead6140$e1cadece@0018079268> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031111134225.00b62090@pop.gwi.net> <000a01c3a884$95530020$e1cadece@0018079268> <60553109.1068667207@TWild.uri.edu> <001e01c3a99b$cead6140$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Doris Markland wrote: >> Why all the focus on the sermon to the exclusion of the rest of the >> service? >> > >I'm sorry to say I considered the rest of the >service "filler," assuming that once we had all >the singing and readings out of the way that >something important would be said. ! I don't understand that at all. Prayer and the liturgy of the word are much more important, and the Eucharist is the center. A good sermon can add - but it is hardly the center. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 06:17:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADCHd6q009298 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 06:17:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4F31C1E602DC; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 06:12:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 220A41E602A8 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 06:12:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A43152@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 7:04:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 91875 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:04:52 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADC4pB23437 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:04:51 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hADC4hl6024718 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 06:04:44 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 06:05:35 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1762967417.20031113060535@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <20031113050847.6434.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031113050847.6434.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 12, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Karen Kay wrote: >> On Wednesday, November 12, 2003, Doris Markland >> wrote: >> > There are reasonable people with class >> > in both parties and those seem to be the >> > ones I have crossed paths with. >> >> But those are clearly not the majority of either >> party. >> >> Karen > Ah, yes. The mindless, unreasoning, unwashed > majority, whose rights must be defended to the death, > but who should not be included in polite gatherings. > The cerebral minority knows best how to handle these > complicated matters, anyway. I'm sorry that you feel that way. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 06:51:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADCp66q009535 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 06:51:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2FA331E60267; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 06:45:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2F271E60022 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 06:45:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A43193@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 7:38:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 92496 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:38:19 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADCcIB26336 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:38:19 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-189.gwi.net [216.195.152.189]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hADCcHAr020941 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:38:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031113073638.00b2de28@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:38:22 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <3FB36A57.75E27505@maynor.net> References: <20031113050431.22003.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >And, of course, it's clear that many people >really dislike Dubya personally -- not just his policies, etc., but the >person himself. I certainly do. (I didn't when he was elected. I >thought he was a who would muddle along and not get us into >too much trouble before fizzling out as a do-nothing Pres. I obviously >don't feel that way now. -- Natalie I remember how Alyce was concerned that if Dubya got elected, it would be the end times. You and I thought she was over-reacting. I guess she knew best. May she rest in peace. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 07:21:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADDLG6q009853 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:21:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 535CB1E60267; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:15:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 225601E6001D for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:15:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A431DE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 8:08:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 93534 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:08:28 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hADD8SB28986 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:08:28 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:08:27 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:08:14 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Marty and Mary?? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hADDLG6q009853 For full details on how to obtain Permanent Resident status in Canada see: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/ BrP >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 11/12/03 07:47PM >>> bonniev wrote: > > >Found it: > > > >http://www.commondreams.org/views03/1110-12.htm > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > Quoting from that article: > > "As a legal resident, I was entitled to the same high level of health-care > benefits enjoyed by all Canadian citizens. I was free to go to any doctor, > anywhere, anytime. " > > My question: Will Marty and Mary be legal residents? What does it take to > become a legal resident? I imagine this is different than becoming a > Canadian citizen. I would assume that as long as they're still living/working in the US, they'll be tourists rather than legal residents in Canada. But what about if they retire there and are full-time residents? I think we've discussed this before. In fact I'm sure we have, because I remember saying that I can't imagine that Canada would say "come on in and enjoy our superior health-care situation" to anybody who decided to retire there. Iirc, BrP had some answers, but I don't remember what they were. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 07:24:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADDOv6q009877 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:24:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 285421E602AA; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:19:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA7421E60267 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:19:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A431F7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 8:12:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 93770 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:12:10 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hADDCAB29389 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:12:10 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:12:10 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:11:48 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Dressing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hADDOv6q009877 Then why waste the time posting on it? BrP >>> Dutchessg1@AOL.COM 11/12/03 09:41PM >>> I've cooked very few in my life, only when the children were still at home; so I wouldn't know either, and what's more, it doesn't interest me one bit! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 07:34:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADDYB6q009984 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:34:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0D8911E6002A; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:28:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF5911E6001D for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:28:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A43256@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 8:21:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 94317 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:21:24 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADDLNB30357 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:21:23 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-252.gwi.net [216.195.152.252]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hADDLMAr029369 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:21:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031113082046.00b8e708@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:21:26 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Marty and Mary?? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >For full details on how to obtain Permanent Resident status in Canada see: > >http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/ > BrP Could you give us a clue as to where on that site they speak of Permanent Resident status vs. Citizenship? Please? bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 07:52:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADDqK6q010193 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:52:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D87031E60267; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:46:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5D291E6002B for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:46:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E12E1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 8:39:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 95680 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:39:32 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hADDdWB01074 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:39:32 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:39:32 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:39:02 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Marty and Mary?? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hADDqK6q010193 Here are the main themes Visiting: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/index.html Classes of immigration (living and working legally in Canada whether intending to become a Citizen or not): http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/index.html Citizenship: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/citizen/menu-howto.html BrP >>> bonniev@GWI.NET 11/13/03 08:21AM >>> >For full details on how to obtain Permanent Resident status in Canada see: > >http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/ > BrP Could you give us a clue as to where on that site they speak of Permanent Resident status vs. Citizenship? Please? bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 08:03:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADE3o6q010276 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:03:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D985C1E60267; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:58:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A78231E6002B for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:58:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A43336@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 8:51:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 96455 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:51:02 -0500 Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADDouB03170 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:50:56 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HOA00FXFMGV8A@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:50:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.79] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:47:00 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:47:00 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: REALTOR.com Listing #598675 To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <6e685c6e419e.6e419e6e685c@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I don't know much about the geography of CP. About the only place > I can > name specifically where I've watched dogs romping is near the road > thatcrosses the park at about 79th St. or so. I've jogged along > that road > watching romping dogs. Probably the Sheep's Meadow. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 08:21:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADELV6q010480 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:21:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1FBD21E602A8; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:15:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E22941E60267 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:15:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E13E9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 9:08:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 98053 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:08:43 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADE8hB06910 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:08:43 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E13E1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 9:08:42 -0500 Message-Id: <200311131408.hADE8hB06910@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:08:42 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: middle-classed To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:01:34 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: >> >> >I know a lot of Republicans and never heard one voice >> >the many opinions or show the attitudes you attribute to >> >your brother. >> >> You don't listen closely enough then. I will introduce you to my uncle >the >> next time Fest is in LA, or perhaps six random voters on the street in >any >> random town. >> >> clo > > >Then you don't know people of the >caliber that I know. > >There are reasonable people with class >in both parties and those seem to be the >ones I have crossed paths with. > Doris, why be so polarized in your responses? Whether Republicans or Dems, there are also plenty of people with stupid opinions walking the streets and working in offices and stories. If you don't know it, you just haven't heard them voiced yet. Why pretend that only Dems think things you disagree with or find shocking? Because it's clear that you do find some things to disagree with! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 08:26:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADEQw6q010536 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:26:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CD1121E60267; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:21:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F4F01E6002B for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:21:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A433F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 9:14:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 98576 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:14:06 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADEE6B07910 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:14:06 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E1412@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 9:14:06 -0500 Message-Id: <200311131414.hADEE6B07910@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:14:06 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: God and Caesar To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:08:34 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: >> On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Terry Wild wrote: >> >> >> And what if you got nothing out of >> >> the sermon? I sat through some when >> >> the minister should have paid me for >> >> sitting there. >> > >> >Amen! >> >> Why all the focus on the sermon to the exclusion of the rest of the >> service? >> >> Bethany > >I'm sorry to say I considered the rest of the >service "filler," assuming that once we had all >the singing and readings out of the way that >something important would be said. > > - D. M. Wow. The rest of the service is the mass. The homily is the concession to the fact that the parson is human and likes to have his opinions count for something. It's only tent/revival/hellfire preaching that makes speechifying the centerpiece. Much of the time you either have a minister or a preacher; it's really hard for a person to be good at both. I personally would think that having a good minister who's a poor preacher would be preferable. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 08:31:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADEVc6q010565 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:31:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 406AF1E60267; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:26:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11CDB1E6002B for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:26:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4342A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 9:18:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 98982 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:18:50 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADEIoB08801 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:18:50 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E1434@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 9:18:49 -0500 Message-Id: <200311131418.hADEIoB08801@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:18:49 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: God and Caesar To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 00:19:57 -0500, Terry Wild wrote: >> Why all the focus on the sermon to the exclusion of the rest of the >> service? >> >> Bethany > >Anybody can read scripture and recite prayers and get their own >interpretation. It is the sharing of interpretations and ideas, which from >my RC upbringing was what a sermon was/is, that is interesting, at least to >me. > >Terry Corporate worship is about sharing things in a body. I can't believe I'm drawn back into discussing this. It reminds me of Charles the born-again who in the '70s backed off from showing me about fashion design because he had walked away from the devil. That's how I feel when talking about churches. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 08:33:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADEX06q010587 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:33:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 87D9E1E60267; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:27:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D7F1E60025 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:27:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A43442@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 9:20:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 99085 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:20:12 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADEKCB09051 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:20:12 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E1446@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 9:20:11 -0500 Message-Id: <200311131420.hADEKCB09051@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:20:12 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Dressing To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 01:17:05 EST, Theo Groothof wrote: >In a message dated 11/12/2003 9:46:38 PM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: > >>This is because, by your own admission, food holds no >>interest for you, which also probably means you were >>an indifferent cook. Do any of your children have any >>interest in cooking? >> >>If food were more interesting to you, you would be >>able to gain weight. Often, putting a new spin on a >>drab old dish will stimulate the appetite. For >>instance, just consider a can of cream of celery coup >>and find all the dishes you can create with such a >>lowly item. You might be pleasantly surprised. >> >-------------- >You are completely wrong. I'm a good cook, and my family never complained >about my dishes. >It's because I lost over 1/2 of my stomach because of the accident. Therefor >it fills up very quickly, and you have no appetite with a full stomach. Even >my doctor agreed with that. >I also lost a lot more of other internal organs, which causes trouble if I >eat too much. >You have no idea how lucky you are to be in one piece! >Theo My Dad is in a similar situation, Theo. I do understand, but didn't know that you had lost digestive bits. Thanks for explaining. It makes more sense now. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 08:57:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADEve6q010921 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:57:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 011781E602A5; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:52:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C25D91E60267 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:52:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A434FE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 9:44:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 101119 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:44:52 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADEipB14296 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:44:51 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hADEine6001163 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:44:50 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002301c3a9f4$aed64c20$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200311131408.hADE8hB06910@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Subject: Re: Re: middle-classed Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:44:46 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Clo: > Doris, > why be so polarized in your responses? > Whether Republicans or Dems, there are also plenty of people with stupid > opinions walking the streets and working in offices and stories. If you > don't know it, you just haven't heard them voiced yet. Who could argue with that? Of course there are stupid people, and at times that includes me. Why pretend that only > Dems think things you disagree with or find shocking? I have never said that. Didn't say anything about Democrats. It was not the focus of this . I was just disagreeing with the constant strange picture Natalie presents of stereotypical Republicans which does not match my experience. I don't think we were talking about the man on the street either. Natalie speaks of her brother being very high up in the Republican party (goes to the White House, etc) but speaks of him in a way that makes his influence sound undesirable. I happen to know people who have money and whose ideas are heard in Washington and who are nothing like N's RRB in any shape or fashion. That's what I was addressing, however inadequately. - D. M. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 09:15:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADFFx6q011072 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:15:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 330271E602A6; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:10:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 018D11E6002C for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:10:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A435D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:03:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 102854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:03:10 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADF38B18203 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:03:09 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E1592@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:03:08 -0500 Message-Id: <200311131503.hADF38B18203@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:03:08 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: middle-classed To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:44:46 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: >I was just disagreeing with the >constant strange picture Natalie presents of >stereotypical Republicans which does not match my >experience. > >I don't think we were talking about the man on the >street either. Natalie speaks of her brother being very >high up in the Republican party (goes to the White >House, etc) but speaks of him in a way that makes >his influence sound undesirable. I happen to know >people who have money and whose ideas are heard >in Washington and who are nothing like N's RRB >in any shape or fashion. That's what I was >addressing, however inadequately. You are each speaking out of your experience. I'm curious as to what makes your experience more valid than hers? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 09:26:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADFQA6q011147 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:26:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 07A9C1E602A6; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:20:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9EBE1E6002C for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:20:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4365D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:13:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 104469 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:13:21 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADFDLB22510 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:13:21 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E1601@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:13:21 -0500 Message-Id: <200311131513.hADFDLB22510@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:13:21 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: National Guard having trouble getting paid To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU " In six Guard units examined by the General Accounting Office, a stunning 94 percent of soldiers had pay problems" Stunning, indeed. http://msnbc.com/news/992826.asp?0sl=-20 Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 09:32:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADFW56q011212 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:32:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B60F11E602DC; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:26:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 859AC1E602A6 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:26:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A436FC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:19:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 105801 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:19:08 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADFJ7B24054 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:19:07 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hADFJ0e6025406 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:19:06 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000401c3a9f9$75b5b7a0$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200311131503.hADF38B18203@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Subject: Re: Re: middle-classed Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:18:56 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:44:46 -0600, Doris Markland > wrote: > >I was just disagreeing with the > >constant strange picture Natalie presents of > >stereotypical Republicans which does not match my > >experience. > > > >I don't think we were talking about the man on the > >street either. Natalie speaks of her brother being very > >high up in the Republican party (goes to the White > >House, etc) but speaks of him in a way that makes > >his influence sound undesirable. I happen to know > >people who have money and whose ideas are heard > >in Washington and who are nothing like N's RRB > >in any shape or fashion. That's what I was > >addressing, however inadequately. > > You are each speaking out of your experience. I'm curious as to what makes > your experience more valid than hers? > > Karen Never said it was. Have just been wishing N would quit painting all R's with her brother's brush. That was the point of my posting which, of course, I now regret. Taint worth it. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 09:42:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADFga6q011325 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:42:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6D2701E6002F; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:36:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 336741E6002C for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:36:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A43774@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:29:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 107040 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:29:42 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADFTgB26682 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:29:42 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E1718@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:29:41 -0500 Message-Id: <200311131529.hADFTgB26682@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:29:42 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: middle-classed To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:18:56 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: >Have just been wishing >N would quit painting all R's with her >brother's brush. That was the point of >my posting which, of course, I now regret. >Taint worth it. I thought you had a discussion about this the other day, and she explained that she doesn't. You can choose to disbelieve her, of course, but it doesn't make sense to castigate her a 2nd time for something she's unaware of doing. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 10:06:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADG636q011497 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:06:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3C1251E6002F; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:00:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEB4A1E6002C for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:00:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E180D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:53:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 109582 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:53:09 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADFr1h32570 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:53:01 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:52:55 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7778E@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: middle-classed Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:52:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] >Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 10:10 PM >Karen Kay wrote: > >> >> A bus trip from Detroit to Canada would be pretty short. >> >> > Wouldn't that be the point of choosing a city like Detroit >for people to >> > gather in for the busride across the border? >> >> If you got yourself to Detroit, why couldn't you get across >the border >> by yourself? They speak English in Ontario, you know. > >Lots of people like doing things in groups. Tours are big business, >even to places where the tour members speak the language. Some people >are just into herd stuff. I can't understand doing it myself, but I >have no problem imagining people who would choose that route if seeing >an ad for a "meet in Detroit to go buy your drugs in Canada" tour. >They'd have somebody to shepherd them across the border, direct them to >the pharmacy, etc. Over the previous years, it's grown more & more popular to have a journalist (usually television) tag along to promote the cause. It reduces the number of people they can interview if they ride along in one car vs. if they're on a full bus. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 10:08:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADG8s6q011538 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:08:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6F2DC1E6002F; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:03:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FC4E1E6002C for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:03:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A43886@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:56:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 109783 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:56:05 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADFu4h00622 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:56:05 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hADFu32f031703 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:56:03 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hADFu2JC031689; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:56:03 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031113075207.00a54b70@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:52:20 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: God and Caesar In-Reply-To: References: <001e01c3a99b$cead6140$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031111134225.00b62090@pop.gwi.net> <000a01c3a884$95530020$e1cadece@0018079268> <60553109.1068667207@TWild.uri.edu> <001e01c3a99b$cead6140$e1cadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:54 AM 11/13/2003 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Doris Markland wrote: > > >> Why all the focus on the sermon to the exclusion of the rest of the > >> service? > >> > > > >I'm sorry to say I considered the rest of the > >service "filler," assuming that once we had all > >the singing and readings out of the way that > >something important would be said. > >! I don't understand that at all. Prayer and the liturgy of the word are >much more important, and the Eucharist is the center. A good sermon can >add - but it is hardly the center. Wish it were shorter then. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 10:44:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADGi46q012019 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:44:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7E08C1E602AA; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:38:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F8751E6002F for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:38:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A43A04@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:31:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 113227 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:31:15 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADGVFh07483 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:31:15 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hADGVD2f007433 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:31:13 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hADGVCJC007396; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:31:12 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031113082435.00a50510@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:27:28 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <000401c3a9f9$75b5b7a0$e1cadece@0018079268> References: <200311131503.hADF38B18203@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Never said it was. Have just been wishing >N would quit painting all R's with her >brother's brush. That was the point of >my posting which, of course, I now regret. >Taint worth it. > > - D. M. Never regret. I get tired of it, too, but we're only hearing her side and her interpretation. She does the same thing to Yankees. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 10:48:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADGmf6q012043 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:48:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ADD691E60031; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:43:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67AE11E6002F for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:43:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A43A29@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:35:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 113569 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:35:52 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADGZqh08133 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:35:52 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E198A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:35:51 -0500 Message-Id: <200311131635.hADGZqh08133@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:35:52 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: middle-classed To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:27:28 -0800, Betty Clark wrote: >Never regret. I get tired of it, too, but we're only hearing her side and >her interpretation. She does the same thing to Yankees. Of course she does; and Bonnie does it about the Sucky South. It's the Words-L way. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 11:02:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADH2k6q012179 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:02:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F0EAA1E60031; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:57:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D0D91E60023 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:57:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A43ABD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:49:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 114763 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:49:56 -0500 Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADGnuh10559 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:49:56 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HOA001Q6UR511@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:49:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.71] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:45:58 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:45:58 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Hooray, Bennie Day To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <70c5c970d804.70d80470c5c9@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Bennie had one accident, easily cleaned. Two words: "Nature's Miracle". I'm happy to report that we haven't had an accident in weeks. Although he still gets very excited when we get home at the end of the day and often loses a little urine. > He just pooped, and he has worms. Ew. But they seem to like the deworming stuff the vet gives them. How old is he? Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 11:58:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADHw66q012794 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:58:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A1F431E60044; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:52:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BF141E60037 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:52:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A43CD2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:45:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 119001 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:45:16 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADHZGh19248 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:35:16 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hADHYT3W023052 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:34:30 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:35:14 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: God and Caesar In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031113075207.00a54b70@uclink.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: References: <001e01c3a99b$cead6140$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031111134225.00b62090@pop.gwi.net> <000a01c3a884$95530020$e1cadece@0018079268> <60553109.1068667207@TWild.uri.edu> <001e01c3a99b$cead6140$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031113075207.00a54b70@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Betty Clark wrote: >>! I don't understand that at all. Prayer and the liturgy of the word are >>much more important, and the Eucharist is the center. A good sermon can >>add - but it is hardly the center. > >Wish it were shorter then. How long are yours? Our max out at 12 minutes - unless a certain bishop is preaching. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 12:25:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADIPT6q013071 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:25:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 452971E60049; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:19:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F8E1E60047 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:19:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A43DBD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:12:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 122195 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:12:40 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADICdh25287 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:12:39 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hADICc2f009377 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:12:38 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hADICbJC009313; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:12:37 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031113100743.00a4dba0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:08:54 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <200311131635.hADGZqh08133@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:35 AM 11/13/2003 -0500, Karen Kay wrote: >On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:27:28 -0800, Betty Clark > wrote: > >Never regret. I get tired of it, too, but we're only hearing her side and > >her interpretation. She does the same thing to Yankees. > >Of course she does; and Bonnie does it about the Sucky South. > >It's the Words-L way. Exactly. We've become so predictable. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 12:34:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADIYt6q013175 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:34:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A4E3F1E60049; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:29:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 615C31E6003E for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:29:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A43E1B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:22:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 123062 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:22:05 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADIM5h27362 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:22:05 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E1D08@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:22:04 -0500 Message-Id: <200311131822.hADIM5h27362@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:22:05 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: middle-classed To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:08:54 -0800, Betty Clark wrote: >At 11:35 AM 11/13/2003 -0500, Karen Kay wrote: >>On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:27:28 -0800, Betty Clark >> wrote: >> >Never regret. I get tired of it, too, but we're only hearing her side and >> >her interpretation. She does the same thing to Yankees. >> >>Of course she does; and Bonnie does it about the Sucky South. >> >>It's the Words-L way. > >Exactly. We've become so predictable. >Betty On list, maybe. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 12:50:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADIoJ6q013305 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:50:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A47291E60049; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:42:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 546371E6003E for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:42:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A43E69@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:34:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 123941 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:34:55 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADIYsh29519 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:34:54 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hADIYpe6029080 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:34:53 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000601c3aa14$d6a65a40$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031113100743.00a4dba0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: Re: middle-classed Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:34:56 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Clark" To: Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 12:08 PM Subject: Re: middle-classed > At 11:35 AM 11/13/2003 -0500, Karen Kay wrote: > >On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:27:28 -0800, Betty Clark > > wrote: > > >Never regret. I get tired of it, too, but we're only hearing her side and > > >her interpretation. She does the same thing to Yankees. > > > >Of course she does; and Bonnie does it about the Sucky South. > > > >It's the Words-L way. > > Exactly. We've become so predictable. > Betty Well then, I'm glad to hear that I might be considered normal . . by this norm. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 13:10:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADJAU6q013603 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:10:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0D41D1E602E1; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:04:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E071E602AD for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:04:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A43F5D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:57:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 126256 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:57:39 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADIvdh01598 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:57:39 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E1E40@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:57:39 -0500 Message-Id: <200311131857.hADIvdh01598@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:57:39 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: God and Caesar To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:35:14 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Betty Clark wrote: > >>>! I don't understand that at all. Prayer and the liturgy of the word are >>>much more important, and the Eucharist is the center. A good sermon can >>>add - but it is hardly the center. >> >>Wish it were shorter then. > >How long are yours? Our max out at 12 minutes - unless a certain bishop >is preaching. > >Bethany My father told a story about a minister who timed his sermons by sucking on a lifesaver. (Why do I feel I've told this before suddenly?) One Saturday his cuff button came off and he put it in his jacket pocket. You can guess how delighted the parishioners were the next week, when the "lifesaver" (hence the sermon) just kept going and going and going... clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 13:15:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADJFQ6q013628 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:15:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3B45E1E602E3; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:09:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D65A91E602AD for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:09:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A43F9B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:02:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 126757 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:02:35 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADJ2Zh02625 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:02:35 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-252.gwi.net [216.195.152.252]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hADJ2WAt018861; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:02:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031113140208.00b2d238@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:02:28 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: National Guard having trouble getting paid In-Reply-To: <200311131513.hADFDLB22510@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:13 AM 11/13/2003 -0500, Karen Kay wrote: >" In six Guard units examined by the General Accounting Office, a stunning >94 percent of soldiers had pay problems" > >Stunning, indeed. > >http://msnbc.com/news/992826.asp?0sl=-20 > >Karen Has Dubya made the Guard a faith-based system? cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 13:16:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADJGd6q013652 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:16:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ADCC71E60046; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:11:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 299A01E602AD for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:11:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A43FB6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:03:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 126886 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:03:48 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADJ3ih02897 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:03:48 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:03:38 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77798@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: God and Caesar Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:03:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Carolyn Ostrander [mailto:clostran@SYR.EDU] >Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 1:58 PM >On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:35:14 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas > wrote: > >>On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Betty Clark wrote: >> >>>>! I don't understand that at all. Prayer and the liturgy of >the word are >>>>much more important, and the Eucharist is the center. A >good sermon can >>>>add - but it is hardly the center. >>> >>>Wish it were shorter then. >> >>How long are yours? Our max out at 12 minutes - unless a >certain bishop >>is preaching. >> >>Bethany > >My father told a story about a minister who timed his sermons >by sucking on > a lifesaver. (Why do I feel I've told this before suddenly?) >One Saturday >his cuff button came off and he put it in his jacket pocket. >You can guess >how delighted the parishioners were the next week, when the "lifesaver" >(hence the sermon) just kept going and going and going... There's also the story about how to improve speaking ability: put a marble in your mouth, then read the speech aloud until you are satisfied with it. Add another marble and repeat, etc. Once your mouth is full of marbles, you can reverse the process and remove a marble for each cycle. After you've lost all of your marbles, you'll be a good speaker. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 13:19:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADJJ46q013657 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:19:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5AD771E60046; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:13:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C12DC1E60045 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:13:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A43FC7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:06:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 127026 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:06:13 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hADJ6Ch03517 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:06:12 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:06:11 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:05:44 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: God and Caesar Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hADJJ46q013657 I swear my father told the same story. Do you suppose we could reconstruct, from variants in their versions, the "Q" ? :-) BrP >>> clostran@SYR.EDU 11/13/03 01:57PM >>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:35:14 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Betty Clark wrote: > >>>! I don't understand that at all. Prayer and the liturgy of the word are >>>much more important, and the Eucharist is the center. A good sermon can >>>add - but it is hardly the center. >> >>Wish it were shorter then. > >How long are yours? Our max out at 12 minutes - unless a certain bishop >is preaching. > >Bethany My father told a story about a minister who timed his sermons by sucking on a lifesaver. (Why do I feel I've told this before suddenly?) One Saturday his cuff button came off and he put it in his jacket pocket. You can guess how delighted the parishioners were the next week, when the "lifesaver" (hence the sermon) just kept going and going and going... clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 13:33:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADJX26q013801 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:33:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 060871E602AF; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:27:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 799491E60045 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:27:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A44057@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:20:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 128356 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:20:08 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADJK7h06379 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:20:08 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-252.gwi.net [216.195.152.252]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hADJK4At027707; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:20:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031113140922.00b39e80@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:10:09 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: God and Caesar In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77798@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:03 PM 11/13/2003 -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: >There's also the story about how to improve speaking ability: put a marble >in your mouth, then read the speech aloud until you are satisfied with it. >Add another marble and repeat, etc. Apparently it worked for Demosthenes... cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 13:44:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADJiE6q013957 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:44:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 32DD41E602AD; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:38:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 712CE1E60045 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:38:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4409A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:31:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 129236 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:31:23 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADJVNh08115 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:31:23 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E1FCA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:31:22 -0500 Message-Id: <200311131931.hADJVNh08115@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:31:22 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: God and Caesar To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:57:39 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >My father told a story about a minister who timed his sermons by sucking on > a lifesaver. (Why do I feel I've told this before suddenly?) One Saturday >his cuff button came off and he put it in his jacket pocket. You can guess >how delighted the parishioners were the next week, when the "lifesaver" >(hence the sermon) just kept going and going and going... I like the Lyle Lovett song, "Church" for a solution to that problem. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 14:13:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADKDw6q014428 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:13:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4BAC61E602E2; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:08:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C11041E60048 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:08:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A441CF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:01:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 131870 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:01:06 -0500 Received: from mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADK15h13377 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:01:06 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HOB00BMB3LPH1@mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:01:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.71] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:56:57 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:56:57 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: God and Caesar To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <70f322713f0b.713f0b70f322@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I like the Lyle Lovett song, "Church" for a solution to that problem. Is that the one, "It's time for dinner now let's go eat!" Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 14:19:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADKJ06q014460 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:19:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C0A3D1E60048; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:13:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 268891E602AD for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:13:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E20EA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:06:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 132199 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:06:08 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADK68h14637 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:06:08 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E2105@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:06:07 -0500 Message-Id: <200311132006.hADK68h14637@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:06:08 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: God and Caesar To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:56:57 -0500, Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote: >> I like the Lyle Lovett song, "Church" for a solution to that problem. > >Is that the one, "It's time for dinner now let's go eat!" Yes. It's a good story: "I went to church last Sunday So I could sing and pray But something quite unusual Happened on that day Now church it started right on time Just like it does without a doubt And everything was all just fine Except when it came time to let us out You know the preacher he kept preaching He told us I have one more thing to say Children before you think of leaving You better think about the Judgment Day Now everyone got nervous Because everyone was hungry too And everyone was wondering What was the next thing he would do And the preacher he kept preaching He said now I'll remind you if I may You all better pay attention Or I might decide to preach all day And now everyone was getting so hungry That the old ones started feeling ill And the weak ones started passing out And the young ones they could not sit still And the preacher's voice rose higher So I snuck up on the balcony And I crept into the choir And I begged them brothers, sisters, help me please I said when I give you a signal I said when I raise up my hand Won't you please join with me together And praise the Lord I have a plan And the preacher he kept preaching Long is the struggle, hard the fight And I prayed, Father please forgive me And then I stood up and with all my might I sang To the Lord let praises be It's time for dinner now let's go eat We've got some beans and some good cornbread And I listened to what the preacher said Now it's to the Lord let praised be It's time for dinner now let's go eat Yes and I did give a signal Yes and I raised up my hands And then joined with me the choir Yes every woman, child, and man They sang To the Lord let praised be It's time for dinner now let's go eat We've got some beans and some good cornbread And I've listened to what the preacher said Now it's to the Lord let praised be It's time for dinner now let's go eat And the preacher he stopped preaching And a hush the church did fill And then a great white dove from up above Landed on the window sill And the dove flew down beside him And a fork appeared right in his hand And with everybody watching The preacher ate that bird right there and then And now everyone got really nervous And the preacher he did start to glow And as we watched in disbelief These were the words he spoke He said now Mama's in the kitchen And she's been there all day And I know she's cooking something good So let's bow our heads and pray And he sang To the Lord let praises be It's time for dinner now let's go eat We've got some beans and some good cornbread Now listen to what the preacher said He said to the Lord let praised be It's time for dinner now let's go eat And the moral of this story Children it is plain but true God knows if a preacher preaches long enough Even he'll get hungry too And he'll sing To the Lord let praises be It's time for dinner now let's go eat We've got some beans and some good cornbread Now listen to what the preacher said He said to the Lord let praised be It's time for dinner now let's go eat" From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 14:48:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADKml6q014812 for ; 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Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:35:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031113153519.00b2dad8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:35:45 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: God and Caesar In-Reply-To: <200311132006.hADK68h14637@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:06 PM 11/13/2003 -0500, Karen Kay wrote: >On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:56:57 -0500, Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> >wrote: > > >> I like the Lyle Lovett song, "Church" for a solution to that problem. > > > >Is that the one, "It's time for dinner now let's go eat!" > >Yes. It's a good story: And from the looks of it, it is longer than some sermons. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 14:51:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADKpT6q014846 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:51:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0B8641E602E5; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:45:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D5A01E602E3 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:45:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A442C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:38:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 134534 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:38:34 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADKcYh21505 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:38:34 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E2217@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:38:34 -0500 Message-Id: <200311132038.hADKcYh21505@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:38:34 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: God and Caesar To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:35:45 -0500, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: >And from the looks of it, it is longer than some sermons. But not the one in the story... Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 14:53:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADKr56q014869 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:53:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9E9971E602E4; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:47:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF0F91E602E3 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:47:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A442E0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:40:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 134631 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:40:13 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADKeDh21824 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:40:13 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E21FC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:40:12 -0500 Message-Id: <200311132040.hADKeDh21824@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:40:12 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: National Guard having trouble getting paid To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:02:28 -0500, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: >Has Dubya made the Guard a faith-based system? Yes. He's hired that Alabama judge to implement his plan. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 14:59:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADKxZ6q014920 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:59:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BCE4F1E6004C; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:53:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F21A91E6003B for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:53:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A442EF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:46:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 134858 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:46:43 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADKkfh22847 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:46:42 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:46:31 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7779A@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: National Guard having trouble getting paid Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:46:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Karen Kay [mailto:karen@WORDWRITE.COM] >Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 3:40 PM >On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:02:28 -0500, clyde w. voigtlander >wrote: >>Has Dubya made the Guard a faith-based system? > >Yes. He's hired that Alabama judge to implement his plan. A news alert on the brainwashed network went out this morning. A review panel has already removed that judge from his position. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 15:04:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADL4L6q014974 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:04:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4CFE01E6004C; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:58:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97B791E6003B for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:58:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4430D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:51:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 135024 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:51:30 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADKpTh23546 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:51:29 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-252.gwi.net [216.195.152.252]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hADKpQGn077245 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:51:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031113155048.00b9fde0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:51:33 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Marty and Mary?? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU All of this makes it sound like you can't just buy a house and move there without going through some kind of approval application. >Here are the main themes > >Visiting: >http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/index.html > >Classes of immigration (living and working legally in Canada whether >intending to become a Citizen or not): >http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/index.html > >Citizenship: >http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/citizen/menu-howto.html > > >BrP > > > > > > >>> bonniev@GWI.NET 11/13/03 08:21AM >>> > >For full details on how to obtain Permanent Resident status in Canada see: > > > >http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/ > > BrP > >Could you give us a clue as to where on that site they speak of Permanent >Resident status vs. Citizenship? Please? > > >bonnie bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 15:08:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADL8V6q015022 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:08:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 461BC1E6004C; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:02:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A463D1E6003B for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:02:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E229C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:55:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 135906 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:55:40 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADKteh24607 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:55:40 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A44372@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:55:39 -0500 Message-Id: <200311132055.hADKteh24607@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:55:40 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: National Guard having trouble getting paid To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:46:31 -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: >>From: Karen Kay [mailto:karen@WORDWRITE.COM] >>Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 3:40 PM > >>On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:02:28 -0500, clyde w. voigtlander >>wrote: >>>Has Dubya made the Guard a faith-based system? >> >>Yes. He's hired that Alabama judge to implement his plan. > >A news alert on the brainwashed network went out this morning. A review >panel has already removed that judge from his position. Right--that's why he was free to take the Shrublet's offer. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 15:11:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADLBn6q015118 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:11:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1C0CD1E6004C; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:06:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74B641E6003B for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:06:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A44381@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:58:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 136180 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:58:58 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hADKwuh25473 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:58:56 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:58:55 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:58:50 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Marty and Mary?? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hADLBn6q015118 If you plan to earn an income in Canada or if you plan for the house to be your permanent residence, you will need to go through CIC. If you have a permanent residence and income elsewhere and only stay at the house for six months at a time, you could probably get away with it. BrP >>> bonniev@GWI.NET 11/13/03 03:51PM >>> All of this makes it sound like you can't just buy a house and move there without going through some kind of approval application. >Here are the main themes > >Visiting: >http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/index.html > >Classes of immigration (living and working legally in Canada whether >intending to become a Citizen or not): >http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/index.html > >Citizenship: >http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/citizen/menu-howto.html > > >BrP > > > > > > >>> bonniev@GWI.NET 11/13/03 08:21AM >>> > >For full details on how to obtain Permanent Resident status in Canada see: > > > >http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/ > > BrP > >Could you give us a clue as to where on that site they speak of Permanent >Resident status vs. Citizenship? Please? > > >bonnie bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 15:29:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADLT76q015307 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:29:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2127B1E60191; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:23:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7A001E6003B for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:23:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A443F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:16:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 137538 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:16:14 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hADLGDh28272 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:16:14 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:16:13 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:16:07 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: yikes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hADLT76q015307 CHICAGO (Reuters) - In a bid to expand beyond fast food, McDonald's Corp. said Thursday that it will license its brand around the world in a range of children's products, including clothes, toys, interactive videos and books. BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 15:45:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADLj06q015545 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:45:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 494191E601ED; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:39:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE08A1E6004A for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:39:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A44496@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:32:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 138855 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:31:58 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADLVwh30873 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:31:58 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hADLVu2f000844 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:31:56 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hADLVtJC000789; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:31:56 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031113132652.00a56ae0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:28:09 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: God and Caesar In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031113075207.00a54b70@uclink.berkeley.edu> <001e01c3a99b$cead6140$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031111134225.00b62090@pop.gwi.net> <000a01c3a884$95530020$e1cadece@0018079268> <60553109.1068667207@TWild.uri.edu> <001e01c3a99b$cead6140$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031113075207.00a54b70@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:35 PM 11/13/2003 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Betty Clark wrote: > > >>! I don't understand that at all. Prayer and the liturgy of the word are > >>much more important, and the Eucharist is the center. A good sermon can > >>add - but it is hardly the center. > > > >Wish it were shorter then. > >How long are yours? Our max out at 12 minutes - unless a certain bishop >is preaching. I don't know. Some older ones seemed to go on for a long time. Their prayers before the sermon also felt like a sermon. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 15:46:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADLks6q015580 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:46:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 81BA81E60053; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:41:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 314AF1E6004A for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:41:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A444B8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:34:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 139064 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:34:02 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADLY2h31241 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:34:02 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:33:56 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7779B@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: yikes Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:33:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Paul Barfoot [mailto:Prbarfoo@SYR.EDU] >Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 4:16 PM >CHICAGO (Reuters) - In a bid to expand beyond fast food, >McDonald's Corp. said Thursday that it will license its brand >around the world in a range of children's products, including >clothes, toys, interactive videos and books. >BrP It's inevitable for a company that size to try things of any degree of silliness. I remember reading articles about some of their internal meetings regarding ideas for advertising. At one of the times they were *really* selling BigMacs (an anniversary or something), it was thought $0.55 would work [financially] and several even thought the psychological association of people "driving down the highway who see a "Speed Limit 55 mph" will think, "55. That's the price of a Big Mac." The biggest reason is how companies are financially structured, particularly if they are publicly traded. It's expected a company will grow its revenue roughly 20% per year. Companies held by another company do it slightly differently. A president who answers to someone at a higher company will tell his higher team 30% per year, knowing it will likely not happen and yet 20% will be broken and all will be well. If you apply the rule of 72, 20% per year means revenue would have to double every couple of years. A company such as McDonald's can't bear up to that strain without doing something radical. The only other way to avoid being radical is M/A. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 16:32:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADMWB6q016162 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:32:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E9D451E60055; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:26:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B828C1E60050 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:26:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4471F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:19:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 144693 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:19:19 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADMJJh07240 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:19:19 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-252.gwi.net [216.195.152.252]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hADMJFAt003524; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:19:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031113171757.00b65b68@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:19:14 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: National Guard having trouble getting paid In-Reply-To: <200311132055.hADKteh24607@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:55 PM 11/13/2003 -0500, Karen Kay wrote: >On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:46:31 -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: > > >>From: Karen Kay [mailto:karen@WORDWRITE.COM] > >>Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 3:40 PM > > > >>On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:02:28 -0500, clyde w. voigtlander > >>wrote: > >>>Has Dubya made the Guard a faith-based system? > >> > >>Yes. He's hired that Alabama judge to implement his plan. > > > >A news alert on the brainwashed network went out this morning. A review > >panel has already removed that judge from his position. > >Right--that's why he was free to take the Shrublet's offer. Yeah, and according to AP, he may make an announcement next week that "could alter the course of this country." Talk about a Jehovah complex. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 16:37:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADMbB6q016194 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:37:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 97F951E60055; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:31:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68B2D1E6004D for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:31:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A44737@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:24:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 144956 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:24:20 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hADMOKh07867 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:24:20 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:24:14 PST Message-ID: <20031113222414.44818.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:24:14 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Dressing To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <19f.1cf46efa.2ce47be1@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Theo Groothof wrote: > You have no idea how lucky you are to be in one > piece! I stand corrected, Theo. And you're right,those of us who are in one piece are not sufficiently grateful. Still, keep trying to gain weight. Your health depends on it. Bear in mind those of us who put on TOO much weight, and would like to lose it. :-] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 16:48:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADMmM6q016307 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:48:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2F42A1E602E4; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:42:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F12741E6028A for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:42:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E28A4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:35:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 145529 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:35:30 -0500 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADMZPh08938 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:35:25 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.163.284d4a84 (4246) for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:35:18 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <163.284d4a84.2ce56125@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:35:17 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Hooray, Bennie Day To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/13/2003 10:50:18 AM Central Standard Time, 14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET writes: << Ew. But they seem to like the deworming stuff the vet gives them. How old is he? >> He's 15 months old and very cute. He was lying on my bed yesterday and looked at me as if to say "it's ok that i'm here?" Sweetie looks as if she wants to say "can we send him back?" but you know older kids when the new baby comes along. I got some roundworm medicine at the store, but I need to get tapeworm medicine. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Bennie 's here! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 16:56:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADMuA6q016444 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:56:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6520D1E602E3; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:50:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36F381E6005A for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:50:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E28EE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:43:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 145966 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:43:19 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADMhIh09701 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:43:18 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hADMhC9u025832 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:43:12 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FB408B5.9010200@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:41:57 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: yikes References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU They already do. Paul Barfoot wrote: > CHICAGO (Reuters) - In a bid to expand beyond fast food, McDonald's Corp. said Thursday that it will license its brand around the world in a range of children's products, including clothes, toys, interactive videos and books. > BrP > > > > > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 16:58:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADMwo6q016478 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:58:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D4F741E602E4; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:53:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F7DB1E6005A for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:53:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A447B2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:45:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 146095 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:45:58 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADMjwh09959 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:45:58 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.43]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031113224545.EQGZ13493.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:45:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB4099A.EDDAA146@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:45:46 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: God and Caesar References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031111134225.00b62090@pop.gwi.net> <000a01c3a884$95530020$e1cadece@0018079268> <60553109.1068667207@TWild.uri.edu> <001e01c3a99b$cead6140$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > ! I don't understand that at all. Prayer and the liturgy of the word are > much more important, and the Eucharist is the center. A good sermon can > add - but it is hardly the center. Contrary to what you might think, the Episcopal Church isn't the only church. The Eucharist is hardly the
of a church service in churches that don't do it at every service. In fact, not all Episcopal churches do it at every service. Back when I was singing in the choir at the Episcopal Church here, it was every other week at the 11:00 service (but every week, I think, at 8:00 -- so those who considered it The Center could go to that service). I think it's now every week at the 11:00 service also, though I'm not positive. But it is not part of regular services at lots of non-Episcopal churches. It's celebrated maybe once a month or so. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 17:00:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADN0l6q016518 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:00:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6CD9C1E602E4; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:55:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8221E6005A for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:55:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E2905@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:47:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 146221 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:47:55 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADMlth10183 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:47:55 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.43]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031113224746.ERAS13493.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:47:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB40A13.7AC13F55@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:47:47 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <20031113050431.22003.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031113073638.00b2de28@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > I remember how Alyce was concerned that if Dubya got elected, it would be > the end times. You and I thought she was over-reacting. I guess she knew > best. May she rest in peace. I had forgotten that. But I do remember now. I miss her enormously. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 17:08:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADN816q016610 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:08:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1B3C61E602E4; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:02:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E13781E602E3 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:02:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A447F1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:55:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 146628 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:55:09 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADMt3h10903 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:55:03 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.43]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031113225458.EUBD13493.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:54:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB40BC3.E9CBCB0A@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:54:59 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Marty and Mary?? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: > Here are the main themes > > Visiting: > http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/index.html > > Classes of immigration (living and working legally in Canada whether intending to become a Citizen or not): > http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/index.html > > Citizenship: > http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/citizen/menu-howto.html . What's the fun of asking on the list if the answer is going to be urls only? Surely somebody can give a quick summary of the answer. Maybe Nipper can. I wouldn't mind chasing those urls at some point, but I'm way behind. Still haven't even read online news today -- and may not get to it. I am happy to report that my DSL was fine when I got home this afternoon. But I'm awash in big papers -- have been grading them all afternoon. Finally quit from bleary-eyedness. Fortunately it's a TTh class, so I have the weekend to finish them. (Actually, there's no law that says I have to give them back at the next class meeting anyway, but it is my preferred mode of behavior.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 17:09:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADN926q016614 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:09:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C83A01E602E3; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:03:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ABF91E6005A for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:03:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A447F6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:56:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 146752 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:56:10 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADMuAh11123 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:56:10 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.43]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031113225604.EUSQ13493.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:56:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB40C06.2BD17D7E@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:56:06 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: REALTOR.com Listing #598675 References: <6e685c6e419e.6e419e6e685c@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > > > I don't know much about the geography of CP. About the only place > > I can > > name specifically where I've watched dogs romping is near the road > > thatcrosses the park at about 79th St. or so. I've jogged along > > that road > > watching romping dogs. > > Probably the Sheep's Meadow. Iirc, the romping dogs were on the right as I was going east. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 17:16:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADNGr6q016718 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:16:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E59361E6005C; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:11:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B30171E6005A for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:11:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4484E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:04:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 147658 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:04:01 -0500 Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADN41h12444 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:04:01 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.15.1c5980e0 (4402) for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:03:50 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <15.1c5980e0.2ce567d5@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:03:49 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] National Guard having trouble getting paid To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/13/2003 2:47:14 PM Central Standard Time, PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM writes: << A news alert on the brainwashed network went out this morning. A review panel has already removed that judge from his position. >> Brainwashed network? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Bennie 's here! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 17:17:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADNHI6q016721 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:17:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A30AC1E602E5; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:11:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7194D1E602E4 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:11:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4485F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:04:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 147689 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:04:26 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADN4Qh12488 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:04:26 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.43]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031113230420.FBFH13493.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:04:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB40DF5.3EAFBC72@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:04:21 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <200311131408.hADE8hB06910@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >Then you don't know people of the > >caliber that I know. > > > >There are reasonable people with class > >in both parties and those seem to be the > >ones I have crossed paths with. > > Doris, > why be so polarized in your responses? > Whether Republicans or Dems, there are also plenty of people with stupid > opinions walking the streets and working in offices and stories. If you > don't know it, you just haven't heard them voiced yet. Why pretend that only > Dems think things you disagree with or find shocking? I didn't get that from what Doris said. I didn't see Dem-Repub polarization. It seemed the opposite from that to me (though I have noticed anti-Dem bias in other postings). I did notice the sort of sounding word choice -- people of "caliber," people "with class." Quite likely she didn't mean for it to be taken that way -- that by "caliber" and "class" she was making a judgment about their , not about what we usually think of as . But it still had a strong Repub ring to it. It's one of my RRB's favorite expressions -- having class or not having class. Another of his terms is "proletariat." He has said on more than one occasion that his ex-wife is "of the proletariat" and therefore does/thinks this or that. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 17:19:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADNJD6q016760 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:19:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C7F9B1E6005C; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:13:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9860D1E6003D for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:13:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A44880@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:06:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 147875 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:06:21 -0500 Received: from imo-m01.mx.aol.com (imo-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.4]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADN6Lh12861 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:06:21 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.6b.1c7b47b6 (4402) for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:06:08 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <6b.1c7b47b6.2ce56860@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:06:08 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] yikes To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/13/2003 3:34:13 PM Central Standard Time, PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM writes: << "driving down the highway who see a "Speed Limit 55 mph" will think, "55. That's the price of a Big Mac." >> I wish I had a Big Mac right now. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Bennie 's here! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 17:24:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADNOa6q016821 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:24:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9F2A31E6005A; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:18:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68E4E1E6003D for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:18:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A448B0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:11:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 148291 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:11:44 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADNBih13688 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:11:44 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E29D9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:11:43 -0500 Message-Id: <200311132311.hADNBih13688@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:11:43 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: God and Caesar To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:05:44 -0500, Paul Barfoot wrote: >I swear my father told the same story. Do you suppose we could reconstruct, from variants in their versions, the "Q" ? > >:-) > >BrP > > > > >>>> clostran@SYR.EDU 11/13/03 01:57PM >>> >On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:35:14 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas > wrote: > >>On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Betty Clark wrote: >> >>>>! I don't understand that at all. Prayer and the liturgy of the word are >>>>much more important, and the Eucharist is the center. A good sermon can >>>>add - but it is hardly the center. >>> >>>Wish it were shorter then. >> >>How long are yours? Our max out at 12 minutes - unless a certain bishop >>is preaching. >> >>Bethany > >My father told a story about a minister who timed his sermons by sucking on >a lifesaver. (Why do I feel I've told this before suddenly?) One Saturday >his cuff button came off and he put it in his jacket pocket. You can guess >how delighted the parishioners were the next week, when the "lifesaver" >(hence the sermon) just kept going and going and going... > >clo My preliminary hypothesis would be Lloyd Shephard brought it home from a visit somewhere. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 17:28:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADNSI6q016860 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:28:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8B1591E6005C; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:22:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 555881E6005A for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:22:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A448AF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:15:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 148531 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:15:26 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADNFQh14319 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:15:26 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E2A07@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:15:25 -0500 Message-Id: <200311132315.hADNFQh14319@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:15:25 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: God and Caesar To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:28:09 -0800, Betty Clark wrote: >At 12:35 PM 11/13/2003 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >>On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Betty Clark wrote: >> >> >>! I don't understand that at all. Prayer and the liturgy of the word are >> >>much more important, and the Eucharist is the center. A good sermon can >> >>add - but it is hardly the center. >> > >> >Wish it were shorter then. >> >>How long are yours? Our max out at 12 minutes - unless a certain bishop >>is preaching. > >I don't know. Some older ones seemed to go on for a long time. Their >prayers before the sermon also felt like a sermon. > >Betty Actually, my GGGF, a Congregational minister, was known for his prayers, which sometimes went on for an hour or more. I have often wondered how the ladies were able to maneuver at church suppers - surely they must have gotten the sexton or someone to do grace instead! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 17:33:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADNX06q016945 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:33:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3E6F91E6005A; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:27:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 105D81E60058 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:27:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E29F9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:20:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 148762 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:20:08 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADNK8h14916 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:20:08 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A448E0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:20:08 -0500 Message-Id: <200311132320.hADNK8h14916@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:20:08 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: God and Caesar To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:45:46 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: >> ! I don't understand that at all. Prayer and the liturgy of the word are >> much more important, and the Eucharist is the center. A good sermon can >> add - but it is hardly the center. > >Contrary to what you might think, the Episcopal Church isn't the only >church. The Eucharist is hardly the
of a church service in >churches that don't do it at every service. I think that Bethany is right in spirit, however, and not only in ECs. The logical center of the Order of Worship is the celebration of dedication in light of the mysteries of death, rebirth, and sovereignty. On non-Communion (Eucharist in low church style) days, there's just a hole around which the service flows. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 17:33:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADNXZ6q016962 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:33:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E80A61E6005A; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:27:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F311E6003D for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:27:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A448E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:20:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 148776 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:20:34 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADNKYh14972 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:20:34 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.43]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031113232029.FJOE13493.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:20:29 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB411BE.FC9C2085@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:20:30 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <200311131408.hADE8hB06910@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <002301c3a9f4$aed64c20$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > I was just disagreeing with the > constant strange picture Natalie presents of > stereotypical Republicans which does not match my > experience. Stereotypes are like that. Surely you are aware of the stereotypes of the political parties -- Republicans are self-centered and money-loving, Democrats are lazy and , etc. etc. > Natalie speaks of her brother being very > high up in the Republican party (goes to the White > House, etc) but speaks of him in a way that makes > his influence sound undesirable. I'm not sure what you mean exactly by "high up in the Republican party." Nor do I know whether he has ever been to the WH, except when our parents took us there as children (with the public, not as invited guests). My RRnephew worked as a WH intern, but I don't know that his parents visited him during that time. Iow, I have never said anything about his going to the White House. I said they go to parties in Washington and hobnob with people in high places. But those parties aren't necessarily at the WH. It has never occurred to me to ask what the setting is. I've said that Daddy Bush plus various other high-ups have visited in my RRB&SIL's home, but not vice-versa. Richard Shelby, an Alabama senator, is a regular at their house. I remember a funny story they told about one night when he was staying in their guest room and the plumbing suddenly quit working -- as in there was no water. When they discovered it wasn't working, they were appalled (it was working upstairs) and asked him how he managed to look so clean and . He laughed and said that when he realized it wasn't working, he simply went out the door to their nearby pool and bathed in it -- skinny-dipped. Anyway, the point is that they have hobnobbed with lots of people in high places (much higher than Richard Shelby -- that water story suddenly hopped into my head and was a digression), but re your mention of "his influence," I have never said that they have influence. I feel sure that all these people who fly them to Washington or whatever do it for one reason only: money. Not only do they give a bunch of money themselves, but my RRSIL is a master at fund-raising. She pretty much single-handedly arranged that fund-raiser for Dubya in Birmingham a year or so ago that netted something like five million dollars. So yes, the politicians love them. But no, I feel sure that they see right through them -- that they realize they're quite ignorant. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 17:40:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADNet6q017083 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:40:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 974461E60058; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:35:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67BED1E6003D for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:35:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A448F4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:28:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 149192 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:28:03 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADNS2h15911 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:28:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.43]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031113232757.FMII13493.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:27:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB4136F.C3F9F7A3@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:27:43 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <200311131503.hADF38B18203@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <000401c3a9f9$75b5b7a0$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > You are each speaking out of your experience. I'm curious as to what > makes > > your experience more valid than hers? > > > > Karen > > Never said it was. Have just been wishing > N would quit painting all R's with her > brother's brush. That was the point of > my posting which, of course, I now regret. > Taint worth it. Why do you regret your posting? (And I'm not sure which posting we're talking about now -- it's been another long day.) I hate it when people decide to withdraw from discussions. I like discussions. But back to the point above -- surely you understand what the word "stereotypical" means. The stereotypical Southerner is a racist redneck. Not only am I neither of the above, nobody I've known personally in my sixty years in the South is -- or at least personally as in knowing them or . It may be that a butcher or baker or candlestick-maker I've encountered at some point is. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 17:43:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADNhu6q017105 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:43:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6C9071E6005C; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:38:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F1441E6005A for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:38:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4490E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:31:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 149310 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:31:04 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADNV3h16176 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:31:03 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.43]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031113233055.FNNF13493.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:30:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB41430.A30A26FA@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:30:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <200311131503.hADF38B18203@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <5.1.1.5.2.20031113082435.00a50510@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > >Never said it was. Have just been wishing > >N would quit painting all R's with her > >brother's brush. That was the point of > >my posting which, of course, I now regret. > >Taint worth it. > > - D. M. > > Never regret. I get tired of it, too, but we're only hearing her side and > her interpretation. She does the same thing to Yankees. Interpretation of what? And how can there be of one's own interpretation? Iow, I don't get what you mean about hearing only my side of my interpretation. Isn't that how interpretations work -- aren't they one's pov? However, I was talking about the Republican *STEREOTYPE*, not my . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 17:45:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADNjU6q017113 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:45:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7E0F91E6005C; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:39:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 501B71E60058 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:39:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A44913@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:32:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 148938 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:32:38 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADNMch15366 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:22:38 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hADNLm3W028346 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:21:50 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:22:33 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: God and Caesar In-Reply-To: <200311132320.hADNK8h14916@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: References: <200311132320.hADNK8h14916@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >I think that Bethany is right in spirit, however, and not only in ECs. >The logical center of the Order of Worship is the celebration of dedication >in light of the mysteries of death, rebirth, and sovereignty. On >non-Communion (Eucharist in low church style) days, there's just a hole >around which the service flows. Well put! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 17:54:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADNsQ6q017220 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:54:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7BF631E6005C; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:48:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 493F11E60058 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:48:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A44923@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:41:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 149733 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:41:33 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADNfXh17101 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:41:33 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003111323412301300k2q91e>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:41:24 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031113153845.03990eb0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:40:46 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: God and Caesar In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sermon Fodder's Ultimate Preaching Rule #2: 2. A life saver mint will last 22 minutes exactly if left laying between the cheek and gum during the normal course of talking. This is a helpful hint to time your sermon. Just don't make the mistake of putting a button in your mouth instead of a life saver before you get up to preach. Other useful tips, as well: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Sermon_Fodder/message/1698 Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 17:58:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hADNw56q017261 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:58:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6181C1E6005F; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:52:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27D621E6005C for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:52:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4493B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:45:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 149857 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:45:13 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADNjCh17418 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:45:12 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.43]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031113234507.DDBW14203.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:45:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB41784.21A167A0@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:45:08 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hooray, Bennie Day References: <70c5c970d804.70d80470c5c9@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > I'm happy to report that we haven't had an accident in weeks. Although he still gets very excited when we get home at the end of the day and often loses a little urine. Bernardykins was very easy to house-break, but he for all of his life squirted when excited. The vet told me that it was purely involuntary and would likely never change. It obviously didn't presage incontinence in old age. Even the night before he died at sixteen, when his legs had gone numb, my mother told me that he had no at all -- that he waited to be carried outside. Speaking of dogs, I saw a glorious Bloodhound riding in a car today. The car was beside me at a stoplight, so I got to admire him for a good while. He was riding shotgun, sitting straight up and with his elbow on the edge of the open window, just like a person. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 18:00:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE00F6q017279 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:00:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 48CC21E6005C; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:54:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 118EA1E60058 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:54:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E2A71@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:47:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 149949 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:47:22 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADNlMh17605 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:47:22 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.43]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031113234717.DDTG14203.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:47:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB41806.E503F9D9@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:47:18 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: God and Caesar References: <001e01c3a99b$cead6140$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031111134225.00b62090@pop.gwi.net> <000a01c3a884$95530020$e1cadece@0018079268> <60553109.1068667207@TWild.uri.edu> <001e01c3a99b$cead6140$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031113075207.00a54b70@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > - unless a certain bishop > is preaching. Q: How does an Episcopalian playing chess know the difference between a bishop and a queen? A: He doesn't. (heard today at lunch from an Episcoplian) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 18:04:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE0456q017284 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:04:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 474141E6005C; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:58:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14C5B1E60058 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:58:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E2AA9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:51:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 150181 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:51:12 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADNpCh17961 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:51:12 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.43]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031113235107.DEUR14203.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:51:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB418EC.46D1CF13@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:51:08 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: God and Caesar References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77798@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > There's also the story about how to improve speaking ability: put a marble > in your mouth, then read the speech aloud until you are satisfied with it. > Add another marble and repeat, etc. Once your mouth is full of marbles, you > can reverse the process and remove a marble for each cycle. After you've > lost all of your marbles, you'll be a good speaker. Quite an old story. Think ancient Greece. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 18:06:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE0606q017287 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:06:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 52C0B1E6005F; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:00:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2247C1E60058 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:00:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4495E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:53:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 150235 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:53:07 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADNr7h18094 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:53:07 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.43]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031113235257.DFJC14203.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:52:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB4195A.84DC5EE4@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:52:58 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: God and Caesar References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031113140922.00b39e80@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > >There's also the story about how to improve speaking ability: put a marble > >in your mouth, then read the speech aloud until you are satisfied with it. > >Add another marble and repeat, etc. > > Apparently it worked for Demosthenes... Thank you, Clyde. I suddenly blanked on who it was and wimped out with "ancient Greece." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 18:08:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE08Q6q017312 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:08:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C0DBB1E6005F; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:02:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EBB51E60058 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:02:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E2AB9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:55:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 150325 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:55:34 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADNtYh18237 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:55:34 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.43]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031113235528.DGDK14203.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:55:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB419F1.89BE2A4C@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:55:29 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: National Guard having trouble getting paid References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7779A@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > > >From: Karen Kay [mailto:karen@WORDWRITE.COM] > >Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 3:40 PM > > >On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:02:28 -0500, clyde w. voigtlander > >wrote: > >>Has Dubya made the Guard a faith-based system? > > > >Yes. He's hired that Alabama judge to implement his plan. > > A news alert on the brainwashed network went out this morning. A review > panel has already removed that judge from his position. I thought that was Karen's point -- that he was in need of a job. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 18:09:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE09R6q017320 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:09:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 89E2A1E602E3; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:03:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A2FD1E6005F for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:03:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4496B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:56:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 150363 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:56:35 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADNuYh18311 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:56:34 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hADNuVe6004559 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:56:33 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000a01c3aa41$c5af44e0$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200311131408.hADE8hB06910@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FB40DF5.3EAFBC72@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: middle-classed Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:56:35 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Whether Republicans or Dems, there are also plenty of people with stupid > > opinions walking the streets and working in offices and stories. If you > > don't know it, you just haven't heard them voiced yet. Why pretend that only > > Dems think things you disagree with or find shocking? > > I didn't get that from what Doris said. I didn't see Dem-Repub > polarization. It seemed the opposite from that to me (though I have > noticed anti-Dem bias in other postings). I did notice the sort of > sounding word choice -- people of "caliber," people "with > class." Quite likely she didn't mean for it to be taken that way -- > that by "caliber" and "class" she was making a judgment about their > , not about what we usually think of as . You are quite right. It was probably a poor word choice but by class I did not mean money or position . . but motives. Like wanting to be of service rather than to benefit at the expense of others. You know from past discussions that I do not believe in a class system. Where I live people are just people, all doing the best they can at whatever they do and just coming and going and getting along. I think of Warren Buffett. You've read, no doubt, that he still lives in the house he's lived in for years, drives an ordinary car, wears old suits. He jokes that one day he may buy a new suit. Anyway, he's a Democrat, but that's not why he is the way he is. It's because he's a midwesterner. - D. M. > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 18:13:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE0DK6q017350 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:13:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 51B6B1E60191; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:07:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FA951E6005F for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:07:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A44988@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:00:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 150521 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:00:27 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE00Rh18658 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:00:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.43]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031114000012.DHNG14203.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:00:12 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB41B0D.E7ED2B88@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:00:13 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: God and Caesar References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031113075207.00a54b70@uclink.berkeley.edu> <001e01c3a99b$cead6140$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031111134225.00b62090@pop.gwi.net> <000a01c3a884$95530020$e1cadece@0018079268> <60553109.1068667207@TWild.uri.edu> <001e01c3a99b$cead6140$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031113075207.00a54b70@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.1.5.2.20031113132652.00a56ae0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > I don't know. Some older ones seemed to go on for a long time. Their > prayers before the sermon also felt like a sermon. A friend of mine whose father is a Presbyterian minister in California (retired now, I think) told me a funny story not long ago about an assistant who had thought he was going to be giving a sermon and had prepared one but then found out he was going to be giving the prayer only -- so he gave his prepared sermon as a prayer that went on for something like an hour. (It was funnier when he told me that story. I think I told it .) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 18:28:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE0Si6q017546 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:28:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C57F21E602E9; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:23:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B761E602E6 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:23:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A449B5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:15:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 151187 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:15:52 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE0Fqh20543 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:15:52 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.43]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031114001546.STXZ20993.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:15:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB41EB1.A2848BB0@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:15:45 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: God and Caesar References: <200311132320.hADNK8h14916@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >Contrary to what you might think, the Episcopal Church isn't the only > >church. The Eucharist is hardly the
of a church service in > >churches that don't do it at every service. > > I think that Bethany is right in spirit, however, and not only in ECs. > The logical center of the Order of Worship is the celebration of dedication > in light of the mysteries of death, rebirth, and sovereignty. On > non-Communion (Eucharist in low church style) days, there's just a hole > around which the service flows. Did your father's churches do Communion/Eucharist every Sunday? In the (high-church) Methodist church I grew up in, the 11:00 service did it only occasionally, and the stuff was passed along the rows in the balcony, which is where we always sat. Only the people downstairs (a smaller group of people) went to the altar. By passed along the rows, I mean you took yours and passed the serving dish along to the person beside you. It was done much more often on Sunday nights, which is where I got all the words so firmly stuck in my head -- since I sang in the Sunday-night choir from seventh grade through part of college. It was because of that pretty regular experience that I was able to recite the words without looking at the prayer book when I started singing in the Episcopal church choir here. I also sang in the Methodist church choir here for a while but can't remember now how often they had Communion. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 18:33:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE0X16q017610 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:33:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4AFA91E602E4; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:27:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C4D01E6005E for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:27:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A449DE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:20:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 151341 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:20:08 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE0K8h20882 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:20:08 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-252.gwi.net [216.195.152.252]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAE0JqAt058011; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:20:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031113191750.00b61c98@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:18:30 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: National Guard having trouble getting paid In-Reply-To: <3FB419F1.89BE2A4C@maynor.net> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7779A@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:55 PM 11/13/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I thought that was Karen's point -- that he was in need of a job. He needs a helluva lot more than that... cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 18:35:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE0ZV6q017621 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:35:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 631AD1E602E9; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:29:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B7F61E6005E for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:29:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A449C5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:22:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 151366 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:22:39 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE0Mch21057 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:22:38 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.43]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031114002233.SXBL20993.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:22:33 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB4204A.77578B9A@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:22:34 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <200311131408.hADE8hB06910@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FB40DF5.3EAFBC72@maynor.net> <000a01c3aa41$c5af44e0$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > You know from past discussions that I do not believe > in a class system. Where I live people are just people, > all doing the best they can at whatever they do and > just coming and going and getting along. > I think of Warren Buffett. You've read, no doubt, that he > still lives in the house he's lived in for years, drives an > ordinary car, wears old suits. He jokes that one day he > may buy a new suit. Anyway, he's a Democrat, but that's I must confess that I know his name and know that he's somebody related to money stuff but that I know nothing else about him at all -- certainly not what kind of house he lives in, etc. > not why he is the way he is. It's because he's a midwesterner. I know there have been list jokes about the Sucky South and about Yankees. And I have often reported on what really is the perception among some Southerners about Yankees -- it is a fact that some Southerners find Yankees rude, etc. (And I think we've talked about some of the reasons for that, at least the linguistic reasons.) But surely y'all will admit that Doris's attitudes about the Midwest are beyond any of our banterings about the South. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 18:36:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE0aw6q017642 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:36:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4B7311E602E6; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:31:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C5B21E6005E for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:31:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E2B28@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:24:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 151448 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:24:05 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE0O4h21237 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:24:04 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAE0O3k0000681 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:24:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FB42059.9070907@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:22:49 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <200311131408.hADE8hB06910@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FB40DF5.3EAFBC72@maynor.net> <000a01c3aa41$c5af44e0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB4204A.77578B9A@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > I know there have been list jokes about the Sucky South and about > Yankees. And I have often reported on what really is the perception > among some Southerners about Yankees -- it is a fact that some > Southerners find Yankees rude, etc. (And I think we've talked about > some of the reasons for that, at least the linguistic reasons.) But > surely y'all will admit that Doris's attitudes about the Midwest are > beyond any of our banterings about the South. They don't match up with my experience, for real. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 18:41:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE0et6q017721 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:40:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 023391E602EB; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:35:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C63761E602EA for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:35:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A449E9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:28:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 151588 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:28:02 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE0S2h21717 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:28:02 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-252.gwi.net [216.195.152.252]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAE0S0Ar060948 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:28:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031113192527.00b92a48@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:28:08 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <3FB40DF5.3EAFBC72@maynor.net> References: <200311131408.hADE8hB06910@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Doris: > > >There are reasonable people with class > > >in both parties and those seem to be the > > >ones I have crossed paths with. >Clo: > > why be so polarized in your responses? > > Whether Republicans or Dems, there are also plenty of people with stupid > > opinions walking the streets and working in offices and stories. I say this with no hint of sarcasm: I think it is entirely possible that Midwesterners are entirely a class of people than those who live elsewhere in this country. It think it is entirely possible that Doris is and meets warm, caring, non-polarized folk in the Heartland. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 18:47:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE0lM6q017792 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:47:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D0A981E602E9; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:41:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A218C1E602E4 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:41:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A44A04@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:34:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 151871 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:34:30 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE0YUh22445 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:34:30 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-252.gwi.net [216.195.152.252]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAE0YPAr062900 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:34:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031113193351.00ba7e80@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:34:32 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <3FB42059.9070907@swbell.net> References: <200311131408.hADE8hB06910@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FB40DF5.3EAFBC72@maynor.net> <000a01c3aa41$c5af44e0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB4204A.77578B9A@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>surely y'all will admit that Doris's attitudes about the Midwest are >>beyond any of our banterings about the South. > > > They don't match up with my experience, for real. >Rita Rouvalis Chapman That's because you weren't born there and, even more so, because you live in a large city. The Midwest is not about large cities. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 18:53:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE0r56q017922 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:53:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5526C1E60061; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:47:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 209EA1E6004C for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:47:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A44A08@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:40:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 152071 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:40:06 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE0e6h23005 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:40:06 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAE0e49u002275 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:40:05 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FB4241A.9030607@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:38:50 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <200311131408.hADE8hB06910@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FB40DF5.3EAFBC72@maynor.net> <000a01c3aa41$c5af44e0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB4204A.77578B9A@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031113193351.00ba7e80@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: >>> surely y'all will admit that Doris's attitudes about the Midwest are >>> beyond any of our banterings about the South. >> >> >> >> They don't match up with my experience, for real. >> Rita Rouvalis Chapman > > > That's because you weren't born there and, even more so, because you live > in a large city. The Midwest is not about large cities. I lived in a small town in Ohio for four years. Does that count? I find the Midwest to be very into class, which isn't surprising because I think Americans in general are very conscious of economic class. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 18:54:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE0sq6q017932 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:54:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D4EFA1E602E9; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:49:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A35DA1E602E5 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:49:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A44A20@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:41:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 152181 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:41:59 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE0fwh23268 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:41:58 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.43]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031114004153.HZOU6276.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:41:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB424D2.2A3C152A@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:41:54 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <200311131408.hADE8hB06910@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031113192527.00b92a48@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What a funny pair of postings to arrive close together: Bonnie: > I say this with no hint of sarcasm: I think it is entirely possible that > Midwesterners are entirely a class of people than those who live > elsewhere in this country. It think it is entirely possible that Doris is > and meets warm, caring, non-polarized folk in the Heartland. Rita: > > surely y'all will admit that Doris's attitudes about the Midwest are > > beyond any of our banterings about the South. > > They don't match up with my experience, for real. I really can't see how any particular section of the country has people. I will readily attest that Doris and Gene are super people -- attest as in one who not only knows Doris on the list but has ftf'ed with Doris and Gene. But I can't imagine that the Midwest as a whole is . Among other counters to the idea that everybody in the Midwest is and , isn't the Midwest the home of organizations like the KKK and the Neo-Nazis and whoever? More later, including perhaps references to the enjoyable conversation Steve Karlson and I had on the phone one night about what constitutes The Midwest, but now I've gotta go find something to eat before TURNING ON THE TV AT 7:00. I'm excited that it's Survivor night! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 18:59:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE0xZ6q018032 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:59:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AEE021E602E5; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:53:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EFE61E60061 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:53:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A44A1D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:46:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 152303 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:46:43 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE0khh23686 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:46:43 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-252.gwi.net [216.195.152.252]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAE0kfAr066224 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:46:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031113194437.00ba62d8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:46:48 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <3FB4241A.9030607@swbell.net> References: <200311131408.hADE8hB06910@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FB40DF5.3EAFBC72@maynor.net> <000a01c3aa41$c5af44e0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB4204A.77578B9A@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031113193351.00ba7e80@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I lived in a small town in Ohio for four years. Does that count? Depends on which part of Ohio. Anywhere around Cincinnati is too Southern to count as the Midwest. > I find the Midwest to be very into class, which isn't >surprising because I think Americans in general are very >conscious of economic class. --Rita Rouvalis Chapman Could be. I haven't lived there for 34 years now. When I was growing up, it seemed like everyone I knew was of the same class. But children tend to think that, I assume. Or maybe everybody in my Catholic grade school really was of the working class. I don't remember ever knowing anyone who was a doctor's or lawyer's child. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 19:06:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE1616q018112 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:06:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A5F651E602E5; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:00:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 716F11E60061 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:00:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E2B76@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:53:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 152559 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:53:09 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE0r8h24278 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:53:08 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAE0r5e6022485 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:53:07 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001101c3aa49$acb54040$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200311131408.hADE8hB06910@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <002301c3a9f4$aed64c20$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB411BE.FC9C2085@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: middle-classed Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:53:09 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Doris Markland wrote: > > > I was just disagreeing with the > > constant strange picture Natalie presents of > > stereotypical Republicans which does not match my > > experience. > > Stereotypes are like that. Surely you are aware of the stereotypes of > the political parties -- Republicans are self-centered and money-loving, > Democrats are lazy and , etc. etc. But that's what I've been trying to tell you. Neither of your descriptions fit the picture I have. Perhaps different people have different stereotypical pictures. > > Natalie speaks of her brother being very > > high up in the Republican party (goes to the White > > House, etc) but speaks of him in a way that makes > > his influence sound undesirable. > > I'm not sure what you mean exactly by "high up in the Republican > party." Nor do I know whether he has ever been to the WH, except when > our parents took us there as children (with the public, not as invited > guests). My RRnephew worked as a WH intern, but I don't know that his > parents visited him during that time. Iow, I have never said anything > about his going to the White House. I guess I just assumed that when you said a plane was sent for him, etc. > Anyway, the point is that they have hobnobbed with lots of people in > high places (much higher than Richard Shelby -- that water story > suddenly hopped into my head and was a digression), but re your mention > of "his influence," I have never said that they have influence. You mean they give money and also help to raise money from others, but never express their opinions to the national committee, etc? > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 19:12:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE1CI6q018188 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:12:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 07A821E60066; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:06:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA4061E60065 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:06:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A44A5A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:59:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 152745 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:59:25 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE0xPh24832 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:59:25 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAE0wqVs021638 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:58:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FB428A1.5070801@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:58:09 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <200311131408.hADE8hB06910@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FB40DF5.3EAFBC72@maynor.net> <000a01c3aa41$c5af44e0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB4204A.77578B9A@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031113193351.00ba7e80@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031113194437.00ba62d8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: >> I lived in a small town in Ohio for four years. Does that count? > > > Depends on which part of Ohio. Anywhere around Cincinnati is too Southern > to count as the Midwest. OK, Cincinnatti is the South but St. Louis is not? Anyway, I lived near Youngstown. >> I find the Midwest to be very into class, which isn't >> surprising because I think Americans in general are very >> conscious of economic class. --Rita Rouvalis Chapman > > > Could be. I haven't lived there for 34 years now. When I was growing up, > it seemed like everyone I knew was of the same class. But children tend to > think that, I assume. Or maybe everybody in my Catholic grade school > really was of the working class. I don't remember ever knowing anyone who > was a doctor's or lawyer's child. If I lived in an homogenous community, I'd think class didn't exist, either. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 19:20:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE1Kk6q018300 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:20:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AE9FE1E60065; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:15:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D4BA1E60064 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:15:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A44A72@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:07:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 153080 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:07:53 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE17rh25659 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:07:53 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAE17q8b029300 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:07:52 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAE17qfC027460 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:07:52 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:07:52 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: God and Caesar Message-ID: <147406859.1068754072@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: References: <200311132320.hADNK8h14916@listserv.cc.uga.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --On Thursday, November 13, 2003 6:22 PM -0500 "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> I think that Bethany is right in spirit, however, and not only in ECs. >> The logical center of the Order of Worship is the celebration of >> dedication in light of the mysteries of death, rebirth, and sovereignty. >> On non-Communion (Eucharist in low church style) days, there's just a >> hole around which the service flows. > > Well put! > > Bethany What this entire exchange, not just the above, has shown is that religion/spiritual needs and responses are personal. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 19:25:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE1P46q018375 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:25:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EE9B61E6005F; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:19:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E561E60059 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:19:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A44A8B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:12:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 153210 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:12:11 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE1CBh26137 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:12:11 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAE1C8tS6643932 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:12:08 -0600 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:12:08 -0600 (CST) From: nam gal sips clark X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: God and Caesar In-Reply-To: <3FB41B0D.E7ED2B88@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031113075207.00a54b70@uclink.berkeley.edu> <001e01c3a99b$cead6140$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031111134225.00b62090@pop.gwi.net> <000a01c3a884$95530020$e1cadece@0018079268> <60553109.1068667207@TWild.uri.edu> <001e01c3a99b$cead6140$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031113075207.00a54b70@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.1.5.2.20031113132652.00a56ae0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FB41B0D.E7ED2B88@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >only -- so he gave his prepared sermon as a prayer >that went on for something like an hour. When I get home from work tonight I am going to reread Wodehouse's _The Great Sermon Handicap_. -- Eustis From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 19:30:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE1U46q018409 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:30:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BCBA41E60065; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:24:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89F501E6005F for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:24:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A44A9E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:17:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 153396 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:17:11 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE1HBh26674 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:17:11 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAE1H0l6007714 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:17:01 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:17:55 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1687825426.20031113191755@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: National Guard having trouble getting paid In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031113191750.00b61c98@pop.gwi.net> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7779A@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031113191750.00b61c98@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 13, 2003, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 05:55 PM 11/13/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>I thought that was Karen's point -- that he was in need of a job. > He needs a helluva lot more than that... Now, Clyde, you know the key to a good job is education; he's probably got that. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 19:30:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE1UB6q018412 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:30:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 989B91E60064; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:24:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B27B1E6005F for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:24:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A44AAB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:17:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 153400 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:17:19 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE1HIh26688 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:17:18 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAE1HFe6018882 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:17:17 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <003e01c3aa4d$0c8125e0$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200311131408.hADE8hB06910@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031113192527.00b92a48@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: Re: middle-classed Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:17:15 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I say this with no hint of sarcasm: I think it is entirely possible that > Midwesterners are entirely a class of people than those who live > elsewhere in this country. It think it is entirely possible that Doris is > and meets warm, caring, non-polarized folk in the Heartland. > > > bonnie I don't think Midwesterners are nicer than anyone else. It's just that I have lived in three states and just plain was not aware of class distinctions and I don't hear people speak of them or look down on or up to people. But then there are all kinds of people everywhere, and perhaps some see it differently. - D. M. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 19:31:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE1VJ6q018420 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:31:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 23BC61E60065; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:25:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E86421E6005F for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:25:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A44AAE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:18:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 153438 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:18:26 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE1IQh26795 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:18:26 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAE1IMv8000645 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:18:26 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:19:08 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <717532252.20031113191908@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031113192527.00b92a48@pop.gwi.net> References: <200311131408.hADE8hB06910@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031113192527.00b92a48@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 13, 2003, bonniev wrote: > I say this with no hint of sarcasm: I think it is entirely possible that > Midwesterners are entirely a class of people than those who live > elsewhere in this country. I don't think so. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 19:34:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE1Y36q018448 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:34:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C3A2B1E60064; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:28:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 913571E6005F for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:28:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A44A9D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:21:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 153515 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:21:10 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE1LAh27013 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:21:10 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAE1L65Z018752 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:21:09 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:21:48 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <444864155.20031113192148@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: God and Caesar In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031113075207.00a54b70@uclink.berkeley.edu> <001e01c3a99b$cead6140$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031111134225.00b62090@pop.gwi.net> <000a01c3a884$95530020$e1cadece@0018079268> <60553109.1068667207@TWild.uri.edu> <001e01c3a99b$cead6140$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031113075207.00a54b70@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.1.5.2.20031113132652.00a56ae0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FB41B0D.E7ED2B88@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 13, 2003, nam gal sips clark wrote: > On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>only -- so he gave his prepared sermon as a prayer >>that went on for something like an hour. > When I get home from work tonight I am going to > reread Wodehouse's _The Great Sermon Handicap_. I think the perfect actor to play Bertie Wooster would be Edward Everett Horton--in his younger days. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 19:36:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE1aB6q018454 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:36:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D67641E6005F; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:30:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B041E60059 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:30:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A44AA5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:23:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 153598 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:23:15 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE1NFh27301 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:23:15 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAE1N5l6013848 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:23:06 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:24:00 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1941569013.20031113192400@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031113194437.00ba62d8@pop.gwi.net> References: <200311131408.hADE8hB06910@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FB40DF5.3EAFBC72@maynor.net> <000a01c3aa41$c5af44e0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB4204A.77578B9A@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031113193351.00ba7e80@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031113194437.00ba62d8@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 13, 2003, bonniev wrote: >> I lived in a small town in Ohio for four years. Does that count? > Depends on which part of Ohio. Anywhere around Cincinnati is too Southern > to count as the Midwest. Oh, pulllease. > Could be. I haven't lived there for 34 years now. When I was growing up, > it seemed like everyone I knew was of the same class. But children tend to > think that, I assume. Or maybe everybody in my Catholic grade school > really was of the working class. I don't remember ever knowing anyone who > was a doctor's or lawyer's child. We learned all about class in grade school--it was part of the curriculum. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 19:37:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE1br6q018501 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:37:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1A48D1E6005F; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:32:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E054B1E60059 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:32:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A44AC5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:25:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 153661 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:25:00 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE1P0h27453 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:25:00 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAE1Ove6007564 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:24:58 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000801c3aa4e$1fff4560$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200311131408.hADE8hB06910@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031113192527.00b92a48@pop.gwi.net> <3FB424D2.2A3C152A@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: middle-classed Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:25:00 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > . Among other counters to the idea that everybody in the Midwest > is and , Whoever said the Midwest is pure and good? The only point I made was that in 78 years here I have been unaware of significant class consciousness. isn't the Midwest the home of organizations like > the KKK and the Neo-Nazis and whoever? Really? I don't know the history of either, but I've never run into them or heard about them here. I thought those things were in the south. Enjoy your Survivor show. - D. M. > > More later, including perhaps references to the enjoyable conversation > Steve Karlson and I had on the phone one night about what constitutes > The Midwest, but now I've gotta go find something to eat before TURNING > ON THE TV AT 7:00. I'm excited that it's Survivor night! > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 19:42:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE1gp6q018669 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:42:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 45A4C1E60065; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:37:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 171531E60064 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:37:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A44AC5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:29:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 153902 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:29:58 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE1Twh27849 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:29:58 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAE1Tte6018230 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:29:56 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001601c3aa4e$d16f2900$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200311131408.hADE8hB06910@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FB40DF5.3EAFBC72@maynor.net> <000a01c3aa41$c5af44e0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB4204A.77578B9A@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031113193351.00ba7e80@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031113194437.00ba62d8@pop.gwi.net> <1941569013.20031113192400@WordWrite.com> Subject: Re: Re: middle-classed Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:29:58 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > We learned all about class in grade school--it was part of the > curriculum. > > Karen Can you explain that, Karen? I have no idea what you mean. What did you learn and how? Maybe I just missed it. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 19:48:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE1mH6q018724 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:48:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0CD981E6005F; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:42:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2EBA1E60059 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:42:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A44AE5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:35:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 154090 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:35:24 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE1ZOh28393 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:35:24 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAE1ZIv8016544 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:35:23 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:36:04 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1489123907.20031113193604@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <001601c3aa4e$d16f2900$e1cadece@0018079268> References: <200311131408.hADE8hB06910@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FB40DF5.3EAFBC72@maynor.net> <000a01c3aa41$c5af44e0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB4204A.77578B9A@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031113193351.00ba7e80@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031113194437.00ba62d8@pop.gwi.net> <1941569013.20031113192400@WordWrite.com> <001601c3aa4e$d16f2900$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 13, 2003, Doris Markland wrote: >> We learned all about class in grade school--it was part of the >> curriculum. >> >> Karen > Can you explain that, Karen? I have > no idea what you mean. What did you > learn and how? Maybe I just missed it. I doubt it--this was in Catholic school. We talked about class and what class we were. (My school ran the gamut from very poor to well-to-do.) We were supposed to go home and ask our parents. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 20:04:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE24Z6q018825 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:04:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B971C1E60065; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:58:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87AFD1E60064 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:58:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A44B13@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:51:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 154598 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:51:42 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE1pfh30169 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:51:41 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAE1pce6012027 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:51:40 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000601c3aa51$da691ae0$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200311131408.hADE8hB06910@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FB40DF5.3EAFBC72@maynor.net> <000a01c3aa41$c5af44e0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB4204A.77578B9A@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031113193351.00ba7e80@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031113194437.00ba62d8@pop.gwi.net> <1941569013.20031113192400@WordWrite.com> <001601c3aa4e$d16f2900$e1cadece@0018079268> <1489123907.20031113193604@WordWrite.com> Subject: Re: Re: middle-classed Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:51:42 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > On Thursday, November 13, 2003, Doris Markland wrote: > >> We learned all about class in grade school--it was part of the > >> curriculum. > >> > >> Karen > > > Can you explain that, Karen? I have > > no idea what you mean. What did you > > learn and how? Maybe I just missed it. > > I doubt it--this was in Catholic school. We talked about class and > what class we were. (My school ran the gamut from very poor to > well-to-do.) We were supposed to go home and ask our parents. > > Karen > You gotta be kidding!! I've never heard of such a thing. Anywhere. Ever. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 20:15:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE2FC6q018975 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:15:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A43761E60066; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:09:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 745041E60064 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:09:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A44B32@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:02:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 154924 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:02:19 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE22Ih31118 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:02:18 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAE22Dv8014833 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:02:18 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:02:59 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <477135630.20031113200259@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <000601c3aa51$da691ae0$e1cadece@0018079268> References: <200311131408.hADE8hB06910@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FB40DF5.3EAFBC72@maynor.net> <000a01c3aa41$c5af44e0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB4204A.77578B9A@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031113193351.00ba7e80@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031113194437.00ba62d8@pop.gwi.net> <1941569013.20031113192400@WordWrite.com> <001601c3aa4e$d16f2900$e1cadece@0018079268> <1489123907.20031113193604@WordWrite.com> <000601c3aa51$da691ae0$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 13, 2003, Doris Markland wrote: >> On Thursday, November 13, 2003, Doris Markland wrote: >> >> We learned all about class in grade school--it was part of the >> >> curriculum. >> >> >> >> Karen >> >> > Can you explain that, Karen? I have >> > no idea what you mean. What did you >> > learn and how? Maybe I just missed it. >> >> I doubt it--this was in Catholic school. We talked about class and >> what class we were. (My school ran the gamut from very poor to >> well-to-do.) We were supposed to go home and ask our parents. >> >> Karen >> > You gotta be kidding!! I've never heard > of such a thing. Anywhere. Ever. Well, I'm pretty sure this isn't the first time I've mentioned that on this service. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 20:25:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE2PH6q019114 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:25:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BC6D11E602E3; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:19:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ED4D1E6006F for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:19:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E2CB2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:12:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 155243 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:11:29 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE2BTh32032 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:11:29 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.43]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031114021124.GUBG11940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:11:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB439CB.2AB1D0BD@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:11:23 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <200311131408.hADE8hB06910@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FB40DF5.3EAFBC72@maynor.net> <000a01c3aa41$c5af44e0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB4204A.77578B9A@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031113193351.00ba7e80@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > They don't match up with my experience, for real. > >Rita Rouvalis Chapman > > That's because you weren't born there and, even more so, because you live > in a large city. The Midwest is not about large cities. I lay no claim to great knowledge of The Midwest, but isn't Chigago an important part of it? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 20:35:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE2ZN6q019216 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:35:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 28E431E60065; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:29:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA5741E60063 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:29:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A44B80@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:22:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 155676 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:22:30 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE2MUh00433 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:22:30 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.43]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031114022221.GZDR11940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:22:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB43C5E.5B56B57F@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:22:22 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <200311131408.hADE8hB06910@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FB40DF5.3EAFBC72@maynor.net> <000a01c3aa41$c5af44e0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB4204A.77578B9A@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031113193351.00ba7e80@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031113194437.00ba62d8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > When I was growing up, > it seemed like everyone I knew was of the same class. But children tend to > think that, I assume. Maybe children do think that regardless of their situation, but I think that it really was pretty much true of my childhood -- that there were no significant class differences. We were aware that some people had more money than others, but nobody seemed to think of that as . Even though we were referred to as "the rich high school," many, many of us were far from rich. But nobody was . There was nobody who couldn't afford Piccadillo flats or who didn't go to college or didn't join a fraternity or sorority, unless they didn't make it through rush. Etc. I had never heard of and had no concept of until I got to college and met people from smaller towns, where everybody went to the same high school -- everybody white, that is. That's when I learned about class divisions. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 20:36:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE2a26q019220 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:36:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 33D3B1E60065; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:30:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05B471E60063 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:30:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E2CBA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:23:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 155706 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:23:09 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE2N9h00506 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:23:09 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAE2N45Z023100 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:23:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:23:51 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <529181627.20031113202351@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <3FB439CB.2AB1D0BD@maynor.net> References: <200311131408.hADE8hB06910@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FB40DF5.3EAFBC72@maynor.net> <000a01c3aa41$c5af44e0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB4204A.77578B9A@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031113193351.00ba7e80@pop.gwi.net> <3FB439CB.2AB1D0BD@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 13, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > bonniev wrote: >> > They don't match up with my experience, for real. >> >Rita Rouvalis Chapman >> >> That's because you weren't born there and, even more so, because you live >> in a large city. The Midwest is not about large cities. > I lay no claim to great knowledge of The Midwest, but isn't Chigago an > important part of it? But when Bonnie lived in the Midwest, Chicago was a small town. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 20:45:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE2j56q019443 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:45:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7975C1E60065; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:39:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49C0C1E60063 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:39:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E2D02@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:32:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 158163 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:32:11 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE2W6h05194 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:32:06 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.43]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031114023201.HDQL11940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:32:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB43EA2.4A70651A@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:32:02 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <200311131408.hADE8hB06910@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <002301c3a9f4$aed64c20$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB411BE.FC9C2085@maynor.net> <001101c3aa49$acb54040$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > Stereotypes are like that. Surely you are aware of the stereotypes of > > the political parties -- Republicans are self-centered and > money-loving, > > Democrats are lazy and , etc. etc. > > But that's what I've been trying to tell you. Neither of your > descriptions fit the picture I have. Perhaps different > people have different stereotypical pictures. I don't think of stereotypes as individual attitudes. They are much larger than that -- national attitudes. > > parents visited him during that time. Iow, I have never said anything > > about his going to the White House. > > I guess I just assumed that when you said a plane was > sent for him, etc. I never said that planes have been sent to them from the White House. I don't think Air Force One has landed on their plantation. The planes that have been sent for them are planes like Senators' planes. > > of "his influence," I have never said that they have influence. > > You mean they give money and also help to raise money > from others, but never express their opinions to the > national committee, etc? No, I said nothing at all about their not expressing their opinions. I said that I doubt that anybody pays any attention. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 20:47:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE2l26q019460 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:47:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EAA511E60063; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:41:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCCC61E60059 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:41:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A44C69@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:34:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 158224 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:34:09 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE2Y1h05368 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:34:01 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAE2Xwe6021961 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:33:59 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000f01c3aa57$c3dca5c0$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200311131408.hADE8hB06910@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FB40DF5.3EAFBC72@maynor.net> <000a01c3aa41$c5af44e0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB4204A.77578B9A@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031113193351.00ba7e80@pop.gwi.net> <3FB439CB.2AB1D0BD@maynor.net> <529181627.20031113202351@WordWrite.com> Subject: Re: Re: middle-classed Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:34:01 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > But when Bonnie lived in the Midwest, Chicago was a small town. > > Karen LOL - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 20:47:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE2ln6q019465 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:47:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A8FD11E60063; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:42:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A79B1E60059 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:42:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A44C6D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:34:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 158258 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:34:56 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE2Yph05465 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:34:51 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.43]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031114023446.HEQE11940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:34:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB43F47.4EE5700C@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:34:47 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <200311131408.hADE8hB06910@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FB40DF5.3EAFBC72@maynor.net> <000a01c3aa41$c5af44e0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB4204A.77578B9A@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031113193351.00ba7e80@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031113194437.00ba62d8@pop.gwi.net> <3FB428A1.5070801@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > If I lived in an homogenous community, I'd think class didn't > exist, either. That is exactly how I grew up. Class was something I learned about in adulthood. Whether that is a good or bad way to grow up I'm not sure. I've pondered that before. In a way it's good since you grow up judging your friends and acquaintances (and don't say people don't judge each other -- we do) by things having nothing to do with . Otoh, it's a blindfolded way to grow up in a way. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 20:52:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE2qH6q019515 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:52:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 515C31E60063; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:46:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 224251E60059 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:46:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A44C92@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:39:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 158482 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:39:23 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE2dNh06193 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:39:23 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.43]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031114023918.HGED11940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:39:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB44057.1AAD962C@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:39:19 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <200311131408.hADE8hB06910@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031113192527.00b92a48@pop.gwi.net> <3FB424D2.2A3C152A@maynor.net> <000801c3aa4e$1fff4560$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > > . Among other counters to the idea that everybody in the > Midwest > > is and , > > Whoever said the Midwest is pure and > good? The only point I made was that > in 78 years here I have been unaware of > significant class consciousness. Sorry. I was conflating that with other things you'd said. > isn't the Midwest the home of organizations like > > the KKK and the Neo-Nazis and whoever? > > Really? I don't know the history of either, > but I've never run into them or heard about > them here. I thought those things were in the > south. This is funny. Here I am in the South thinking they're associated with the Midwest, and there you are in the Midwest thinking they're associated with the South. I also don't have any real knowledge/details and have of course never run into them. But I was under the impression that they were Midwest in their . > Enjoy your Survivor show. It was somewhat ho-hum. Won't comment any more now since some people might not have seen it yet. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 20:52:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE2qY6q019519 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:52:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6D0B41E60072; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:46:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38B4C1E6006F for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:46:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A44C84@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:39:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 158491 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:39:40 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE2deh06220 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:39:40 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-252.gwi.net [216.195.152.252]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAE2dbAt009833; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:39:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031113211551.00b7b518@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:37:01 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <3FB439CB.2AB1D0BD@maynor.net> References: <200311131408.hADE8hB06910@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FB40DF5.3EAFBC72@maynor.net> <000a01c3aa41$c5af44e0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB4204A.77578B9A@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031113193351.00ba7e80@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:11 PM 11/13/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I lay no claim to great knowledge of The Midwest, but isn't Chigago an >important part of it? Well, in the first place, it's Chicago. I doubt that the Midwest, however geographically limned, is much different than any other region. By that I mean that there always is a dichotomy, a tension, between the city and the country. In Illinois, it is Chicago and the rest of the state (or as newscasters and others in Chicagoland often put it, it is Chicago and "downstate Illinois.") In Wisconsin, the tension was between the agricultural and tourist areas of central and northern Wisconsin on one hand and the urban Milwaukee--Lake Michigan shore area on the other. For all I know, Minnesota has the same sort of thing and I would defer to Doris and Gene regarding the attitude of outlying areas to, e.g., Lincoln and Omaha. As to class, it's everywhere. Where I grew up in northwestern Wisconsin it was townies versus country types (i.e., those who rode school buses to high school); jocks versus nerds (or whatever non-jocks were called in those days); Catholics vs. Lutherans; whites vs. Indians; (white) natives/locals versus vacationers/resort owners, etc. Class isn't always about money or education or skin color---many times it's simply about the in-group that wields the power---however power is construed in the situation---versus the rest. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 20:58:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE2w86q019664 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:58:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D87B11E60072; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:52:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A952E1E6006F for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:52:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A44C9C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:45:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 158612 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:45:15 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE2jEh06574 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:45:14 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAE2j4l6014135 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:45:05 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:45:57 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <525987390.20031113204557@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: HQX files? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I need to extract an HQX file by 6:30 AM tomorrow. In theory WinZip can do this--but when I extract this file, even though the icons show up, the software can't tell the size, and so I can't use the file. Now... Has anyone used WinZip for HQX files? Any ideas? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 21:00:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE30t6q019682 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:00:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E192A1E60072; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:55:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF4371E6006F for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:55:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A44C97@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:48:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 158723 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:48:02 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAE2m2h06808 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:48:02 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:47:56 PST Message-ID: <20031114024756.63770.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:47:56 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: middle-classed To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200311131503.hADF38B18203@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > You are each speaking out of your experience. I'm > curious as to what makes > your experience more valid than hers? Or vice versa. It would be my hope that there are people whose spirits ad "souls" do not always reflect politics, party or otherwise. It "is" the harsh personal enmity I see reflected in many posts that alarms me. Often, invective and vituperation take the place of reasonable discussion. There is nothing to be gained by this by any parties to the debates that arise. iow, it would surprise me to learn that any political figure in this country is personally "out to get" any garden variety citizen. Nor can I convince myself that any political figure in this country, national or local, entertains an agenda that calls for the subversion or the downfall of the US. Reading some of these posts would certainly lead one to conclude otherwise. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 21:02:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE32Z6q019688 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:02:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 13D931E60072; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:56:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5C641E6006F for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:56:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E2D5D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:49:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 158813 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:49:41 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE2nfh06976 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:49:41 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2003111402493501200rmdhre> (Authid: adamh1); Fri, 14 Nov 2003 02:49:35 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: HQX files? Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:49:35 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <525987390.20031113204557@WordWrite.com> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I need to extract an HQX file by 6:30 AM tomorrow. Isn't that a Mac BinHex archive? StuffIt should handle that. http://www.stuffit.com/cgi-bin/stuffit/stuffit_loginpage.cgi?standardwinexp --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 21:05:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE35d6q019776 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:05:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A3F831E6006F; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:59:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 722DD1E60063 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:59:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E2D4D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:52:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 158919 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:52:40 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE2qeh07360 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:52:40 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAE2qTl6022484 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:52:30 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:53:23 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <669440952.20031113205323@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: HQX files? In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 13, 2003, Adam Hartfield wrote: >> I need to extract an HQX file by 6:30 AM tomorrow. > Isn't that a Mac BinHex archive? StuffIt should handle that. > http://www.stuffit.com/cgi-bin/stuffit/stuffit_loginpage.cgi?standardwinexp I'm very confused. Yes, it's a Mac thang. Isn't stuffit a Mac program? I don't have a Mac. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 21:07:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE37i6q019802 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:07:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 896CC1E6006B; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:02:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B5B81E60063 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:02:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A44CBD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:54:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 158978 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:54:50 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE2soh07464 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:54:50 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAE2sg5Z026586 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:54:48 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:55:27 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1322407421.20031113205527@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <20031114024756.63770.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031114024756.63770.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 13, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Karen Kay wrote: >> You are each speaking out of your experience. I'm >> curious as to what makes >> your experience more valid than hers? > Or vice versa. Ca va sans dire--but Natalie wasn't complaining about Doris. > It would be my hope that there are > people whose spirits ad "souls" do not always reflect > politics, party or otherwise. Politics are personal. > iow, it would surprise me to learn that any political > figure in this country is personally "out to get" any > garden variety citizen. Hm. I do believe that Bush is out to get all garden variety citizens. But I'm a bit biased, because I know he's out to get me. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 21:08:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE38S6q019806 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:08:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A70A81E6006B; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:02:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 787021E60063 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:02:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A44CCD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:55:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 159007 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:55:34 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE2tYh07527 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:55:34 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAE2tIv8013081 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:55:31 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:56:02 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1918002607.20031113205602@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: HQX files? In-Reply-To: <669440952.20031113205323@WordWrite.com> References: <669440952.20031113205323@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 13, 2003, Karen Kay wrote: > On Thursday, November 13, 2003, Adam Hartfield wrote: >>> I need to extract an HQX file by 6:30 AM tomorrow. >> Isn't that a Mac BinHex archive? StuffIt should handle that. >> http://www.stuffit.com/cgi-bin/stuffit/stuffit_loginpage.cgi?standardwinexp > I'm very confused. > Yes, it's a Mac thang. Isn't stuffit a Mac program? I don't have a > Mac. WinZip is supposed to expand HQX files. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 21:12:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE3Ci6q019838 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:12:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F25B01E6006F; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:07:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC9A91E6006B for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:07:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E2D8C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:59:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 159204 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:59:50 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE2xoh07856 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:59:50 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2003111402594401200s286oe> (Authid: adamh1); Fri, 14 Nov 2003 02:59:44 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: HQX files? Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:59:44 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <1918002607.20031113205602@WordWrite.com> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Yes, it's a Mac thang. Isn't stuffit a Mac program? I don't have a > > Mac. > > WinZip is supposed to expand HQX files. > > Karen Well, it's supposed to, but it's not doing yours, apparently. Download the Windows version of the StuffIt Expander I linked to earlier, and see if you have better luck. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 21:16:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE3GC6q019863 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:16:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 493061E6006F; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:10:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15AB51E6006B for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:10:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A44CF7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:03:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 159391 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:03:18 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE33Ih08234 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:03:18 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAE32rv8021045 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:03:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:03:37 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1444380353.20031113210337@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: HQX files? In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 13, 2003, Adam Hartfield wrote: >> > Yes, it's a Mac thang. Isn't stuffit a Mac program? I don't have a >> > Mac. >> >> WinZip is supposed to expand HQX files. >> >> Karen > Well, it's supposed to, but it's not doing yours, apparently. Download the > Windows version of the StuffIt Expander I linked to earlier, and see if you > have better luck. Maybe it's me, but it's not obvious which operating system you're downloading the file for. I'll let you know how it works. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 21:34:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE3Yw6q020000 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:34:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 534461E60078; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:29:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 246DF1E6006F for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:29:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A44D42@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:22:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 160162 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:22:04 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE3M4h10313 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:22:04 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.43]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031114032159.GDTM3345.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:21:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB44A58.80662B45@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:22:00 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <200311131408.hADE8hB06910@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FB40DF5.3EAFBC72@maynor.net> <000a01c3aa41$c5af44e0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB4204A.77578B9A@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031113193351.00ba7e80@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031113211551.00b7b518@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > As to class, it's everywhere. Where I grew up in northwestern Wisconsin it > was townies versus country types (i.e., those who rode school buses to high > school); jocks versus nerds (or whatever non-jocks were called in those > days); Catholics vs. Lutherans; whites vs. Indians; (white) > natives/locals versus vacationers/resort owners, etc. Class isn't always > about money or education or skin color---many times it's simply about the > in-group that wields the power---however power is construed in the > situation---versus the rest. Well-said. In some of these parties that I've been involved in since our hs 40th reunion, I've picked up on some things that I was too dumb/insensitive to pick up on in hs. There were some divisions I wasn't aware of at all. But they weren't about money/socialclass. We've talked at some of these recent parties about what an unusual school we were and how we hadn't realized it at the time. We knew that we'd been mentioned in national magazines, but it didn't really soak in until much later. Our high school was hot-damn good. But I've moved accidentally to , which isn't the point here. Some of the people felt rejected re in/out crowds that were in/out for reasons I can't really explain. I felt lucky to be part of the in crowd. My best friends (from first grade) happened to be the . This is too complicated to get into at this late hour. I need to go to bed. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 21:37:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE3bE6q020027 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:37:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4BD871E6006B; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:31:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 158BD1E60068 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:31:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A44D4E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:24:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 160289 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:24:20 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE3OKh10618 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:24:20 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAE3OGe6017131 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:24:17 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000801c3aa5e$cab96020$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200311131408.hADE8hB06910@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031113192527.00b92a48@pop.gwi.net> <3FB424D2.2A3C152A@maynor.net> <000801c3aa4e$1fff4560$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB44057.1AAD962C@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: middle-classed Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:24:19 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Enjoy your Survivor show. > > It was somewhat ho-hum. Won't comment any more now since some people > might not have seen it yet. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I saw the last half of a show called Ultimate Makeover, I think. It was interesting to see the before and after. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 21:39:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE3d96q020043 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:39:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 429CC1E60068; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:33:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09C5E1E6006B for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:33:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A44D45@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:26:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 160331 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:26:05 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE3Q5h10800 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:26:05 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAE3Q58b032289 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:26:05 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAE3Q5fC014256 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:26:05 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:26:04 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: Words-L Subject: Genealogy jackpot Message-ID: <155699062.1068762364@TWild.uri.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Just heard from a 2nd cousin she has found my grandmother's Canadian heritage back to France. She hooked up with some Houde relatives in NH and Maine. There's even some family pictures with my great-grandfather. Way cool. In other great news, we now have a new DirecTV dish with local channels. No trees were cut! TIVO needs some adjusting. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 21:41:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE3fN6q020103 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:41:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A81161E60078; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:35:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB3461E6006B for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:35:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A44D3D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:28:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 160403 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:28:27 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE3SRh11087 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:28:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.43]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031114032822.GHGD3345.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:28:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB44BD7.8631F62A@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:28:23 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <20031114024756.63770.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Nor can I convince myself > that any political figure in this country, national or > local, entertains an agenda that calls for the > subversion or the downfall of the US. Reading some of > these posts would certainly lead one to conclude otherwise. No, I don't think anybody calls for the subversion or downfall of the US, even though I do think that might happen as a result of idiocy. But think about this for a minute (to be trite and cliche-like): Would Jesus have attacked Iraq? I have no credentials to speak for Jesus, having not gone to church for years. People like Bethany have a more direct line with Jesus. I will say that if Jesus would've said GO for the attacking of Iraq, then I am quite happy that I no longer go to church. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 21:43:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE3hp6q020123 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:43:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6B5E21E60078; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:38:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37ABB1E6006B for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:38:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A44D40@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:30:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 160442 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:30:57 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE3Uvh11339 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:30:57 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAE3Use6002126 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:30:55 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002101c3aa5f$b84ee8a0$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200311131408.hADE8hB06910@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FB40DF5.3EAFBC72@maynor.net> <000a01c3aa41$c5af44e0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB4204A.77578B9A@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031113193351.00ba7e80@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031113211551.00b7b518@pop.gwi.net> <3FB44A58.80662B45@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: middle-classed Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:30:57 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU the point here. Some of the > people felt rejected re in/out crowds that were in/out for reasons I > can't really explain. I felt lucky to be part of the in crowd. My best > friends (from first grade) happened to be the . > > This is too complicated to get into at this late hour. I need to go to > bed. > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > So now we are going to share whether we are an innie or an outie? Actually, where I grew up we were so dumb we didn't even have an in crowd. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 21:44:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE3in6q020146 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:44:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C49301E6006B; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:39:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B281E60068 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:39:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E2E8F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:31:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 160501 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:31:55 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE3Vth11473 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:31:55 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.149.43]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031114033149.GJDV3345.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:31:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB44CA6.89CABB9B@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:31:50 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <20031114024756.63770.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <1322407421.20031113205527@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > I do believe that Bush is out to get all garden variety citizens. But > I'm a bit biased, because I know he's out to get me. Squeeze the Beast. And here it is bedtime without my having read today's news at all, except for the Starkville Daily News. Maybe I can double up tomorrow, reading two days of news. Or maybe I won't bother with today's news. If the world ended today, surely somebody would've let me know by now. G'night. I'm looking forward to dreams. I love dreams, which is one reason I always look forward to going to bed. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 22:07:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE4766q020354 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:07:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E15041E602E5; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:01:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B36031E602E3 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:01:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A44DAB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:54:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 161445 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:54:12 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAE3sCh13779 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:54:12 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:54:07 PST Message-ID: <20031114035407.32318.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:54:07 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: middle-classed To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <529181627.20031113202351@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > But when Bonnie lived in the Midwest, Chicago was a > small town. Was bonniev in the stall when the cow kicked over the lantern? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 22:30:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE4UR6q020643 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:30:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EE06B1E602E3; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:24:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF4C21E60062 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:24:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A45041@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:17:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 166512 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:17:32 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAE4HWh17622 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:17:32 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:17:27 PST Message-ID: <20031114041727.70682.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:17:27 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: middle-classed To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <000801c3aa4e$1fff4560$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: Natalie wrote: > isn't the Midwest the home of organizations like > > the KKK and the Neo-Nazis and whoever? This would make an interesting question to set the minds of social historians agog. Doris wrote: > Really? I don't know the history of either, > but I've never run into them or heard about > them here. I thought those things were in the > south. The Klan had its rudimentary origins in Scotland, where cross burning had a very valid and apolitical purpose. Cis-side, the Klan was extremely active in New Jersey and the border states during the late 1930's and 1940's. Neo-nazism is really oxymoronic, in that there was never anything new about it. Its roots in the US can be claimed by just about every state in the nation. > Enjoy your Survivor show. > > - D. M. Perhaps the next "reality" smash will pit the Democrats against the Republicans, and the neo-Nazis against prominent attorneys for the ACLU. Real fireworks! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 22:42:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE4gC6q020838 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:42:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5CFAA1E602ED; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:36:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E0F81E602EC for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:36:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A45095@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:29:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 167218 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:29:18 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAE4TIh18852 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:29:18 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:29:13 PST Message-ID: <20031114042913.16376.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:29:13 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: middle-classed To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1489123907.20031113193604@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > >> We learned all about class in grade school--it > was part of the > >> curriculum. > > > Can you explain that, Karen? I have > > no idea what you mean. What did you > > learn and how? Maybe I just missed it. > > I doubt it--this was in Catholic school. We talked > about class and > what class we were. (My school ran the gamut from > very poor to > well-to-do.) We were supposed to go home and ask our > parents. > > Karen Ask them what? What class they were? What class was? Why this bizarre concept was being "taught"? Why teachers at this particular school would have an inside track on the answers? To think that this concept was "taught" at all IS "bizarro". __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 22:45:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE4jQ6q020898 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:45:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 13EFF1E602E3; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:39:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA07B1E60076 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:39:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A45098@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:32:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 167620 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:32:32 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAE4WWh19813 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:32:32 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:32:27 PST Message-ID: <20031114043227.73627.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:32:27 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: middle-classed To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031113211551.00b7b518@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > As to class, it's everywhere. Where I grew up in > northwestern Wisconsin it > was townies versus country types (i.e., those who > rode school buses to high > school); jocks versus nerds (or whatever non-jocks > were called in those > days); Catholics vs. Lutherans; whites vs. > Indians; (white) > natives/locals versus vacationers/resort owners, > etc. Class isn't always > about money or education or skin color---many times > it's simply about the > in-group that wields the power---however power is > construed in the > situation---versus the rest. All undeniably true. Were you taught this in school? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 23:01:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE51Q6q021031 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:01:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8F6E71E602E3; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:55:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CACD1E60070 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:55:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A450CE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:48:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 168170 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:48:32 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAE4mVh21168 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:48:31 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:48:26 PST Message-ID: <20031114044826.76467.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:48:26 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Hooray, Bennie Day To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FB41784.21A167A0@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Bernardykins was very easy to house-break, but he > for all of his life > squirted when excited. The vet told me that it was > purely involuntary > and would likely never change. Jaysie is the same. We try to introduce her to new friends when we are all outside. > Speaking of dogs, I saw a glorious Bloodhound riding > in a car today. > The car was beside me at a stoplight, so I got to > admire him for a good > while. He was riding shotgun, sitting straight up > and with his elbow on > the edge of the open window, just like a person. I embarass all my co-riders by waving to dogs in vehicles, and on the side of the road. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 23:02:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE5266q021042 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:02:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E6DBB1E602E3; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:56:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B881D1E60070 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:56:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A450C1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:49:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 168186 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:49:12 -0500 Received: from stork.mail.pas.earthlink.net (stork.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.188]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE4nCh21223 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:49:12 -0500 Received: from dpc693545081.direcpc.com ([69.35.45.81] helo=earthlink.net) by stork.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AKVt9-00075M-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:48:56 -0800 Message-ID: <410-22003115144491725@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: dormarbil@earthlink.net X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2003.2.92.0 (Windows) From: "Doris Smith" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Genealogy jackpot Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:49:01 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-ELNK-Trace: 0f572b91323e03d8e9ef466adc09f07e7e972de0d01da9405d4a1e233f28bd33f5be7b15f06fe1a3350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This is wonderful! > Just heard from a 2nd cousin she has found my grandmother's Canadian > heritage back to France. She hooked up with some Houde relatives in NH and > Maine. There's even some family pictures with my great-grandfather. Way > cool. > And I now have DirecWay Satellite Internet service - and, as in your situation, no trees had to be cut down! Any my own interest and involvement in genealogical research is the primary reason I wanted something other than slow dial-up. Doris S > In other great news, we now have a new DirecTV dish with local channels. > No trees were cut! TIVO needs some adjusting. > > Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 23:02:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE52o6q021054 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:02:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A45421E602ED; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:57:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73D131E602EC for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:57:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A450C3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:49:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 168208 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:49:56 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE4nuh21264 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:49:56 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A450D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:49:55 -0500 Message-Id: <200311140449.hAE4nuh21264@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:49:55 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Hooray, Bennie Day To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:45:08 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Marie Ascher wrote: > >> I'm happy to report that we haven't had an accident in weeks. Although he still gets very excited when we get home at the end of the day and often loses a little urine. > >Bernardykins was very easy to house-break, but he for all of his life >squirted when excited. The vet told me that it was purely involuntary >and would likely never change. It obviously didn't presage incontinence >in old age. Even the night before he died at sixteen, when his legs had >gone numb, my mother told me that he had no at all -- that >he waited to be carried outside. > >Speaking of dogs, I saw a glorious Bloodhound riding in a car today. >The car was beside me at a stoplight, so I got to admire him for a good >while. He was riding shotgun, sitting straight up and with his elbow on >the edge of the open window, just like a person. > I realized today that not having a dog in our house has made it a whole lot less of a home than having the kids move out or having V move out would have done. Coming home to cats does nothing for me in the way of motivating me to leave the office on time. Like my human family, cats like to be petted at times, but when they need it rather than when I do. I realize this is coming out strangely; but it's true. The dog let me have my moods and was always a comfort when I needed it, not on his or her own agenda. That's just a very warm and cozy thing to have waiting for you. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 23:07:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE5726q021113 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:07:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BA0141E602E3; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:01:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 872751E60070 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:01:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E31F3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:54:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 168380 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:54:08 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAE4s8h21751 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:54:08 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:54:02 PST Message-ID: <20031114045402.27590.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:54:02 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Genealogy jackpot To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <155699062.1068762364@TWild.uri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Terry Wild wrote: > Just heard from a 2nd cousin she has found my > grandmother's Canadian > heritage back to France. She hooked up with some > Houde relatives in NH and > Maine. There's even some family pictures with my > great-grandfather. Way > cool. It's almost like making new friends, isn't it, even when you've known "of" the relatives for some time? "Way cool" is a pretty good feeling. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 23:09:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE59m6q021124 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:09:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A9DB61E602E3; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:04:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 784461E60070 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:04:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E3207@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:56:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 168491 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:56:54 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE4ush22020 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:56:54 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E31FF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:56:53 -0500 Message-Id: <200311140456.hAE4ush22020@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:56:53 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: God and Caesar To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:15:45 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> >Contrary to what you might think, the Episcopal Church isn't the only >> >church. The Eucharist is hardly the
of a church service in >> >churches that don't do it at every service. >> >> I think that Bethany is right in spirit, however, and not only in ECs. >> The logical center of the Order of Worship is the celebration of dedication >> in light of the mysteries of death, rebirth, and sovereignty. On >> non-Communion (Eucharist in low church style) days, there's just a hole >> around which the service flows. > >Did your father's churches do Communion/Eucharist every Sunday? No, it was usually once a month (the 4th Sunday, I think, or maybe the 1st and 5th Sundays, so sometimes 2 in a row) and on certain special days - but I don't remember which any more. Some were probably tradition; others had to do with local events, maybe someone requested it in conjunction with a mge, baptism, or death or something. When I got older and my dad and I started to butt heads, there was one Sunday on which he insisted I come to church, sing in choir, and take communion though I told him I didn't feel well. He suspected me of , so I felt vindicated and even ecstatic (though unwell) when I urpsed in the tray of communion cups! It didn't often happen that he suspected me of something without justification, but I traded on this one for quite some time... clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 23:10:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE5Ai6q021132 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:10:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ADA7B1E602E3; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:05:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E24A1E60070 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:05:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A450DF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:57:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 168521 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:57:49 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAE4vnh22136 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:57:49 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:57:44 PST Message-ID: <20031114045744.96802.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:57:44 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: middle-classed To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FB44BD7.8631F62A@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > No, I don't think anybody calls for the subversion > or downfall of the > US, even though I do think that might happen as a > result of idiocy. But > think about this for a minute (to be trite and > cliche-like): > > Would Jesus have attacked Iraq? > > I have no credentials to speak for Jesus, having not > gone to church for > years. People like Bethany have a more direct line > with Jesus. I will > say that if Jesus would've said GO for the attacking > of Iraq, then I am > quite happy that I no longer go to church. Zowee. There's so much meat for discussion here that my tired brain is rebelling. Goodness knows what parts I will dream about tonight. Consider your post flagged for tomorrow. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 23:45:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE5j76q021418 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:45:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 426C51E602EE; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:39:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 069521E602ED for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:39:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E32F3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 0:32:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 170667 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 00:31:16 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAE59kh23758 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 00:09:46 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:09:40 PST Message-ID: <20031114050940.30934.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:09:40 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: middle-classed To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031113082435.00a50510@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Betty Clark wrote: > > Never regret. I get tired of it, too, but we're only > hearing her side and > her interpretation. She does the same thing to > Yankees. Indeed, we all do the same thing to one another, to some extent. We are all capable of keeping it on a humorous, rather than a spiteful level, I would hope. Does anyone else miss T.S. as I do? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 23:45:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE5jX6q021422 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:45:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 511801E602EE; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:39:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 234AE1E602ED for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:39:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E32FB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 0:32:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 170978 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 00:31:38 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAE5KGh24452 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 00:20:16 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:20:10 PST Message-ID: <20031114052010.82469.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:20:10 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: middle-classed To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <002101c3aa5f$b84ee8a0$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > So now we are going to share whether > we are an innie or an outie? Most of the folks I know who will admit to being anything, are lower middle innies. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 23:45:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE5ja6q021425 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:45:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 90A1E1E602EF; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:39:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62E551E602EE for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:39:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4522B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 0:32:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 171023 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 00:31:39 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAE5Nxh24572 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 00:23:59 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:23:54 PST Message-ID: <20031114052354.50668.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:23:54 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Hooray, Bennie Day To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200311140449.hAE4nuh21264@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > I realize this is coming out strangely; but it's > true. The dog let me have > my moods and was always a comfort when I needed it, > not on his or her own > agenda. That's just a very warm and cozy thing to > have waiting for you. This is a very heart-warming sentiment. Please take action to warm and cozy up your home. (Animal shelter dogs are THE BEST.) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 13 23:52:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE5qK6q021553 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:52:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 79E381E602EE; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:46:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A5D91E60075 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:46:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A45274@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 0:39:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 171808 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 00:39:25 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE5dPh26354 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 00:39:25 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E3343@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 0:39:25 -0500 Message-Id: <200311140539.hAE5dPh26354@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 00:39:25 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: God and Caesar To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:21:48 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Thursday, November 13, 2003, nam gal sips clark wrote: >> On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>>only -- so he gave his prepared sermon as a prayer >>>that went on for something like an hour. > >> When I get home from work tonight I am going to >> reread Wodehouse's _The Great Sermon Handicap_. > >I think the perfect actor to play Bertie Wooster would be Edward >Everett Horton--in his younger days. > >Karen Oh, wasn't he the bee's knees? One of my birth gifts was a plaque with an illustrated poem by EEH. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 00:17:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE6H16q021767 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 00:17:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CF0F81E6007D; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 00:11:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D1201E6007B for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 00:11:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E33D8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 1:04:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 173191 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:04:06 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE646h29261 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:04:06 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E33BC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 1:04:05 -0500 Message-Id: <200311140604.hAE646h29261@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:04:05 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: middle-classed To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:30:57 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: >the point here. Some of the >> people felt rejected re in/out crowds that were in/out for reasons I >> can't really explain. I felt lucky to be part of the in crowd. My >best >> friends (from first grade) happened to be the . >> >> This is too complicated to get into at this late hour. I need to go >to >> bed. >> -- >> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) >> >> >So now we are going to share whether >we are an innie or an outie? > >Actually, where I grew up we were so >dumb we didn't even have an in crowd. > > - D. M. uh huh. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 00:19:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE6JK6q021789 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 00:19:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 884AE1E6007D; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 00:13:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56F471E6007B for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 00:13:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4532B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 1:06:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 173317 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:06:25 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE66Ph29567 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:06:25 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E33C9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 1:06:25 -0500 Message-Id: <200311140606.hAE66Ph29567@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:06:25 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: middle-classed To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:09:40 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Betty Clark wrote: >> >> Never regret. I get tired of it, too, but we're only >> hearing her side and >> her interpretation. She does the same thing to >> Yankees. > >Indeed, we all do the same thing to one another, to >some extent. We are all capable of keeping it on a >humorous, rather than a spiteful level, I would hope. > >Does anyone else miss T.S. as I do? > More. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 00:20:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE6KS6q021796 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 00:20:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F096F1E602EF; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 00:14:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C36801E6007B for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 00:14:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E33CD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 1:07:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 173344 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:07:33 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE67Xh29683 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:07:33 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E33F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 1:07:32 -0500 Message-Id: <200311140607.hAE67Xh29683@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:07:33 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Hooray, Bennie Day To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:23:54 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> I realize this is coming out strangely; but it's >> true. The dog let me have >> my moods and was always a comfort when I needed it, >> not on his or her own >> agenda. That's just a very warm and cozy thing to >> have waiting for you. > >This is a very heart-warming sentiment. Please take >action to warm and cozy up your home. (Animal shelter >dogs are THE BEST.) > So far animals have always found us, as in lost or abandoned in the woods, stray and starving at a farmhouse, etc. We are in waiting. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 00:30:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE6Uc6q021874 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 00:30:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 260EC1E602EF; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 00:24:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB6AD1E6006A for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 00:24:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A45336@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 1:17:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 173583 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:17:43 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE6Hhh30452 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:17:43 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAE6Hae6023288 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 00:17:39 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001601c3aa77$02a4f0e0$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031114045744.96802.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: middle-classed Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 00:17:41 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > > Would Jesus have attacked Iraq? > > > > I have no credentials to speak for Jesus, having not > > gone to church for > > years. People like Bethany have a more direct line > > with Jesus. I will > > say that if Jesus would've said GO for the attacking > > of Iraq, then I am > > quite happy that I no longer go to church. >Lynne: > Zowee. There's so much meat for discussion here that > my tired brain is rebelling. > > Goodness knows what parts I will dream about tonight. > Consider your post flagged for tomorrow. > Wait! Before you write anything, run and put your WWJD bracelet on. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 00:43:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE6hS6q021942 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 00:43:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4A58B1E602EF; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 00:37:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C95A1E6006A for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 00:37:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A45360@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 1:30:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 173733 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:30:33 -0500 Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE6UXh31200 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:30:33 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1ee.134cb6a1 (3980) for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:30:20 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1ee.134cb6a1.2ce5d07a@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:30:18 EST Subject: Re: Dressing To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/13/2003 4:24:40 PM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: >Bear in mind those of us who put on >TOO much weight, and would like to lose it. :-] > If it's any consolation, putting it on is just as hard as losing it. :-} Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 01:04:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE74p6q022095 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:04:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 19E551E6007D; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 00:59:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB121E6007B for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 00:59:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E3427@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 1:51:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 174185 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:51:56 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE6puh32662 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:51:56 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E344A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 1:51:55 -0500 Message-Id: <200311140651.hAE6puh32662@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:51:56 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: middle-classed To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id hAE6puh32664 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:17:27 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Doris Markland wrote: > >Natalie wrote: >> isn't the Midwest the home of organizations like >> > the KKK and the Neo-Nazis and whoever? > >This would make an interesting question to set the >minds of social historians agog. > > >Doris wrote: >> Really? I don't know the history of either, >> but I've never run into them or heard about >> them here. I thought those things were in the >> south. > >The Klan had its rudimentary origins in Scotland, >where cross burning had a very valid and apolitical >purpose. Cis-side, the Klan was extremely active in >New Jersey and the border states during the late >1930's and 1940's. > Ok, if you say so. Extracted from Encyclopedia Britannica Online. http://www.search.eb.com/eb/article?eu=47396&tocid=0&query=ku%20klux% 20klan&ct= "either of two distinct secret terrorist organizations in the United States, one founded immediately after the Civil War and lasting until the 1870s, the other beginning in 1915 and continuing to the present. "The 19th-century Klan was originally organized as a social club by Confederate veterans in Pulaski, Tenn., in 1866. They apparently derived the name from the Greek word kyklos, from which comes the English “circle”; “Klan” was added for the sake of alliteration and Ku Klux Klan emerged. The organization quickly became a vehicle for Southern white underground resistance to Radical Reconstruction... "The 20th-century Klan had its roots more directly in the American nativist tradition. It was organized in 1915 near Atlanta, Ga., by Colonel William J. Simmons, a preacher and promoter of fraternal orders who had been inspired by Thomas Dixon's book The Clansman (1905) and D.W. Griffith's film The Birth of a Nation (1915). The new organization remained small until Edward Y. Clarke and Mrs. Elizabeth Tyler brought to it their talents as publicity agents and fund raisers. The revived Klan was fueled partly by patriotism and partly by a romantic nostalgia for the old South, but, more importantly, it expressed the defensive reaction of white Protestants in small-town America who felt threatened by the Bolshevik revolution in Russia and by the large-scale immigration of the previous decades that had changed the ethnic character of American society..." It's nice to have some facts to chew on. However, this doesn't address the very active nature of Klan activity in the midwest at various times. I would pull up some demographics on Klan activity in various regions over time, but I unfortunately have a lot of work to do before driving to Phila. in the am. Next batter up! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 01:12:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE7Cc6q022176 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:12:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9D46C1E6007D; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:06:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 662651E6007B for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:06:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A45393@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 1:59:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 174469 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:59:43 -0500 Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com (imo-r06.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.102]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE6xgh00754 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:59:42 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.32.40918c2f (3980) for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:59:33 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <32.40918c2f.2ce5d753@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:59:31 EST Subject: Re: middle-classed To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/13/2003 6:22:50 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >But surely y'all will admit that Doris's attitudes about the Midwest are beyond any of our banterings about the South. ------- People are people, no matter where they live. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 01:26:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE7Qq6q022387 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:26:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 634981E6007E; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:21:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34F721E6007B for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:21:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4545E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 2:13:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 176413 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 02:13:56 -0500 Received: from imo-r01.mx.aol.com (imo-r01.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.97]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE7Duh04009 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 02:13:56 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.38.3ebc963a (3980) for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 02:13:45 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <38.3ebc963a.2ce5daa6@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 02:13:42 EST Subject: Re: middle-classed To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/13/2003 7:30:06 PM, dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM writes: >We learned all about class in grade school--it was part of the > >> curriculum. > >> > >> Karen > > > >Can you explain that, Karen? I have > >no idea what you mean. What did you > >learn and how? Maybe I just missed it. ----------- yeah, me too, please. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 01:31:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE7V66q022434 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:31:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 09DB81E60083; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:25:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D04791E60082 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:25:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A45465@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 2:18:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 176495 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 02:18:11 -0500 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE7IBh04293 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 02:18:11 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.184.230f385f (3980) for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 02:18:00 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <184.230f385f.2ce5dba5@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 02:17:57 EST Subject: Re: middle-classed To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/13/2003 8:22:59 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >We were aware that some people had >more money than others, but nobody seemed to think of that as >. ----------- *class* is not about money, Natalie Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 02:08:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE88V6q022754 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 02:08:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0F85A1E60182; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 02:02:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D25D31E60084 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 02:02:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A454B2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 2:55:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 177380 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 02:55:36 -0500 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE7tah06726 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 02:55:36 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1e1.13673ff1 (3980) for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 02:55:29 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1e1.13673ff1.2ce5e46e@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 02:55:26 EST Subject: Re: Hooray, Bennie Day To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/13/2003 10:50:05 PM, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: >I realize this is coming out strangely; but it's true. The dog let me have >my moods and was always a comfort when I needed it, not on his or her own >agenda. That's just a very warm and cozy thing to have waiting for you. > --------- No, it's not strange. I understand what you're saying quite well. I think my kitty is happy to see me when I come home after I've been gone, but doesn't show it the way my dogs did. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 02:13:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE8D66q022798 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 02:13:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EE6461E6023A; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 02:07:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCC5F1E601F5 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 02:07:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A454D2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 3:00:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 177436 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 03:00:11 -0500 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE80Bh06945 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 03:00:11 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.12a.34e62784 (3980) for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 03:00:02 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <12a.34e62784.2ce5e580@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 03:00:00 EST Subject: Re: middle-classed To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/13/2003 10:58:08 PM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: >Would Jesus have attacked Iraq? ----- Can't speak for Jesus, but it's a good question. Just remember that he was human too though. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 02:52:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE8qn6q023247 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 02:52:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E87A11E60263; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 02:47:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2C651E60182 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 02:47:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E3571@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 3:39:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 177952 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 03:39:53 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE8dqh08688 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 03:39:52 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:41:48 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id W5K0P7NH; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:41:44 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031114093909.025a12f0@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:39:44 +0100 Subject: Re: God and Caesar In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77798@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77798@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 14:03 13.11.2003 -0500 skrev Phil Paxton: >There's also the story about how to improve speaking ability: put a marble >in your mouth, then read the speech aloud until you are satisfied with it. >Add another marble and repeat, etc. Once your mouth is full of marbles, you >can reverse the process and remove a marble for each cycle. After you've >lost all of your marbles, you'll be a good speaker. It seems to me that the basis for this story goes back to Greece and Demosthenes? Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 03:06:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE96Y6q023487 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 03:06:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AEF7F1E60182; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 03:00:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D88E1E60083 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 03:00:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A45501@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 3:53:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 178096 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 03:53:39 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE8rch09487 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 03:53:38 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:55:34 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id W5K0P735; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:55:32 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031114095318.0255bdc8@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:53:32 +0100 Subject: Re: yikes In-Reply-To: <6b.1c7b47b6.2ce56860@aol.com> References: <6b.1c7b47b6.2ce56860@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 18:06 13.11.2003 -0500 skrev Evelyn Duncan: >In a message dated 11/13/2003 3:34:13 PM Central Standard Time, >PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM writes: ><< >"driving down the highway who see a "Speed Limit 55 >mph" will think, "55. That's the price of a Big Mac." >>> > >I wish I had a Big Mac right now. Big Macs are bad for you. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 03:22:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE9MS6q023618 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 03:22:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0CDB21E6008A; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 03:16:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF0C71E60083 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 03:16:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E35C7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 4:09:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 178490 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 04:09:32 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE99Vh10412 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 04:09:31 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:11:27 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id W5K0P7RQ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:11:22 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031114100900.0269c488@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:09:19 +0100 Subject: Re: God and Caesar In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031113075207.00a54b70@uclink.berkeley.edu> <001e01c3a99b$cead6140$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031111134225.00b62090@pop.gwi.net> <000a01c3a884$95530020$e1cadece@0018079268> <60553109.1068667207@TWild.uri.edu> <001e01c3a99b$cead6140$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031113075207.00a54b70@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.1.5.2.20031113132652.00a56ae0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FB41B0D.E7ED2B88@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 19:12 13.11.2003 -0600 skrev nam gal sips clark: >On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>only -- so he gave his prepared sermon as a prayer >>that went on for something like an hour. > >When I get home from work tonight I am going to >reread Wodehouse's _The Great Sermon Handicap_. That's no weeny 12 minutes! Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 03:26:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAE9QO6q023690 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 03:26:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 999221E60182; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 03:20:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BE6B1E6008A for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 03:20:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4553C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 4:13:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 178566 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 04:13:28 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAE9DSh10641 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 04:13:28 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:15:24 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id W5K0P7SQ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:15:21 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031114101206.0264e7b0@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:13:21 +0100 Subject: Re: HQX files? In-Reply-To: <525987390.20031113204557@WordWrite.com> References: <525987390.20031113204557@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 20:45 13.11.2003 -0600 skrev Karen Kay: >I need to extract an HQX file by 6:30 AM tomorrow. > >In theory WinZip can do this--but when I extract this file, even >though the icons show up, the software can't tell the size, and so I >can't use the file. > >Now... Has anyone used WinZip for HQX files? Any ideas? This is probably still before 6:30 AM your time. There are other (free) software you can find on the net which explicitely handle HQX. But may there be a problem with Mac-files with resource-/data-forks? Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 06:20:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAECKG6q025350 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:20:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B48E71E602F2; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:14:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 866AC1E6008E for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:14:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A456D3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 7:07:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 181925 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:07:18 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEC7Ih06176 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:07:18 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.76.187.155]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031114120712.PUZO20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:07:12 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB4BF46.ED9866D5@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 05:40:54 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Genealogy jackpot References: <155699062.1068762364@TWild.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Terry Wild wrote: > > Just heard from a 2nd cousin she has found my grandmother's Canadian > heritage back to France. She hooked up with some Houde relatives in NH and > Maine. There's even some family pictures with my great-grandfather. Way > cool. > > In other great news, we now have a new DirecTV dish with local channels. > No trees were cut! TIVO needs some adjusting. Neat! Both. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 06:20:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAECKP6q025353 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:20:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6C5C71E602F2; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:14:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BEFB1E6008E for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:14:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E3743@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 7:07:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 181960 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:07:27 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEC7Rh06196 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:07:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.76.187.155]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031114120720.PVBB20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:07:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB4C045.BE59C6B6@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 05:45:09 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <200311131408.hADE8hB06910@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FB40DF5.3EAFBC72@maynor.net> <000a01c3aa41$c5af44e0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB4204A.77578B9A@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031113193351.00ba7e80@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031113211551.00b7b518@pop.gwi.net> <3FB44A58.80662B45@maynor.net> <002101c3aa5f$b84ee8a0$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > Actually, where I grew up we were so > dumb we didn't even have an in crowd. You must have lived in a very strange place. Do you have trouble catching on to movies and books involving teenagers in schools etc? Obviously we don't have to have experienced everything we read about in order to grasp it, but I think most writers assume a certain amount of common knowledge, of universality, re basic human behavior. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 06:20:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAECKe6q025356 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:20:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A80581E602F3; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:14:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A17F1E602F2 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:14:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A456D9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 7:07:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 181967 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:07:35 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEC7Zh06216 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:07:35 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.76.187.155]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031114120729.PVDB20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:07:29 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB4C138.71DCC992@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 05:49:12 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <20031114041727.70682.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Natalie wrote: > > isn't the Midwest the home of organizations like > > > the KKK and the Neo-Nazis and whoever? > > This would make an interesting question to set the > minds of social historians agog. Why? But I'm not talking about history. I'm talking about now. Hmm. I bet my use of "home" could be ambiguous. I didn't mean home as in where you're from originally. I meant home as in current base-of-operation. Like when I read things about neo-Nazi crazies going on a rampage, it seems that they are often from the Midwest -- from as in living there currently or very recently. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 06:20:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAECKf6q025359 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:20:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6BD941E602F3; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:14:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E05F1E602F2 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:14:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A456E6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 7:07:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 181977 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:07:44 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEC7ih06234 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:07:44 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.76.187.155]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031114120738.PVGA20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:07:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB4C238.59925AD5@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 05:53:28 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hooray, Bennie Day References: <20031114044826.76467.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > squirted when excited. The vet told me that it was > > purely involuntary > > and would likely never change. > > Jaysie is the same. We try to introduce her to new > friends when we are all outside. I would try to get Bernardykins totally on empty before introductions -- taking him for long walks with lots of marking opportunities and watching him finally trying to mark with not a drop left. > > while. He was riding shotgun, sitting straight up > > and with his elbow on > > the edge of the open window, just like a person. > > I embarass all my co-riders by waving to dogs in > vehicles, and on the side of the road. I really wanted to have a conversation with that bloodhound. His face exuded kindness and wisdom. Speaking of conversations from cars, I had a funny experience day before yesterday. Heading off of campus and along the long street out to Wmart, I pulled up beside some good friends at the first stoplight. We had a brief conversation before the light changed. Then we got to the next intersection and found ourselves side by side again at a red light, so we continued the conversation. This went on for four stoplights -- a serial conversation. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 06:20:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAECKo6q025362 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:20:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B91111E602F2; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:15:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B7741E6008E for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:15:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A456DA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 7:07:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 181982 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:07:53 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEC7qh06255 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:07:52 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.76.187.155]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031114120746.PVIU20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:07:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB4C2A2.E4B14057@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 05:55:14 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hooray, Bennie Day References: <200311140449.hAE4nuh21264@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > I realize this is coming out strangely; but it's true. The dog let me have > my moods and was always a comfort when I needed it, not on his or her own > agenda. That's just a very warm and cozy thing to have waiting for you. I don't think it came out strangely at all. Made perfect sense. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 06:20:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAECKw6q025365 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:20:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 644411E602F2; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:15:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 344B41E6008E for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:15:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A456E7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 7:08:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 181992 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:08:01 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEC81h06304 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:08:01 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.76.187.155]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031114120755.PVLH20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:07:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB4C323.EE206609@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 05:57:23 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: God and Caesar References: <200311140456.hAE4ush22020@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> The logical center of the Order of Worship is the celebration of > dedication > >> in light of the mysteries of death, rebirth, and sovereignty. On > >> non-Communion (Eucharist in low church style) days, there's just a hole > >> around which the service flows. > > > >Did your father's churches do Communion/Eucharist every Sunday? > > No, it was usually once a month (the 4th Sunday, I think, or maybe the 1st > and 5th Sundays, so sometimes 2 in a row) and on certain special days - but Did he not feel that it was the logical center of the service? > communion though I told him I didn't feel well. He suspected me of > , so I felt vindicated and even ecstatic (though unwell) when > I urpsed in the tray of communion cups! Wonderful! Did the people following you partake? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 06:21:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAECL76q025369 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:21:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CC05B1E602F3; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:15:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DED11E602F2 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:15:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E376B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 7:08:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 182015 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:08:10 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEC89h06336 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:08:09 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.76.187.155]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031114120803.PVNU20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:08:03 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB4C33F.184495D1@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 05:57:51 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <20031114050940.30934.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Does anyone else miss T.S. as I do? He'll be back. Don't worry. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 06:21:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAECLF6q025375 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:21:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5185D1E602F4; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:15:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 245A01E602F3 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:15:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A456E0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 7:08:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 182033 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:08:18 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEC8Ih06388 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:08:18 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.76.187.155]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031114120812.PVPY20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:08:12 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB4C3A3.F1D2ABB9@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 05:59:31 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hooray, Bennie Day References: <200311140607.hAE67Xh29683@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > So far animals have always found us, as in lost or abandoned in the woods, > stray and starving at a farmhouse, etc. > > We are in waiting. It is time for you to come visit the MSU campus -- and meet The White Dog. I saw him yesterday leap up on a pretty high ledge and then lean way over to drink from a fountain. He looked super cute. Wish I'd had a camera. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 06:21:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAECLO6q025378 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:21:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EDD6E1E602F2; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:15:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C10A71E6008E for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:15:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A456ED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 7:08:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 182037 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:08:27 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEC8Qh06401 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:08:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.76.187.155]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031114120820.PVSL20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:08:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB4C441.762C845D@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:02:09 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <200311140651.hAE6puh32662@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > It's nice to have some facts to chew on. However, this doesn't address the > very active nature of Klan activity in the midwest at various times. Nor does it address the now that I was talking about. Isn't the Klan's headquarters some place like Missouri? Seems that we talked about that earlier on this . But I have no time to root around on the web now. Maybe sometime this weekend. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 06:21:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAECLX6q025382 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:21:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EAC601E602F3; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:15:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE0011E602F2 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:15:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E376F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 7:08:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 182079 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:08:35 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEC8Zh06463 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:08:35 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.76.187.155]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031114120829.PVUU20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:08:29 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB4C4ED.93A328B5@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:05:01 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <184.230f385f.2ce5dba5@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > >We were aware that some people had > >more money than others, but nobody seemed to think of that as > >. > ----------- > *class* is not about money, Natalie Money is one ingredient of social class in all the tools of measurement I've ever seen -- and, being a sociolinguist, I've seen quite a few. But more to the point, what I wrote above was in response to something Bonnie said that involved the term "working class," a term which emphasizes the money component of the class divisions. (It's also a term I find kind of goofy, but that's another matter. My students and I sometimes have fun talking about that term.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 06:21:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAECLf6q025385 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:21:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0D31C1E602F3; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:15:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D44971E602F2 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:15:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A456FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 7:08:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 182168 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:08:44 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEC8ih06625 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:08:44 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.76.187.155]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031114120838.PVXZ20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:08:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB4C51E.F792E1C@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:05:50 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <12a.34e62784.2ce5e580@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > >Would Jesus have attacked Iraq? > ----- > Can't speak for Jesus, but it's a good question. Not exactly an question. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 06:27:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAECRV6q025448 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:27:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 10FD01E602F3; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:21:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D36181E602F2 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:21:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A456EF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 7:14:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 182313 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:14:34 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAECEXh07195 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:14:34 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAECEUv8024301 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:14:31 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:15:13 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <69918537.20031114061513@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: HQX files? In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 13, 2003, Adam Hartfield wrote: >> > Yes, it's a Mac thang. Isn't stuffit a Mac program? I don't have a >> > Mac. >> >> WinZip is supposed to expand HQX files. >> >> Karen > Well, it's supposed to, but it's not doing yours, apparently. Download the > Windows version of the StuffIt Expander I linked to earlier, and see if you > have better luck. There seems to be a problem with the file--StuffIt Expander tells me it's corrupt. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 06:35:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAECZL6q025591 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:35:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ED0D21E602F3; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:29:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE7F61E602F2 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:29:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4571D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 7:22:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 182693 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:22:24 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAECMNh08377 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:22:23 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAECMDl6029196 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:22:14 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:23:09 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1998166107.20031114062309@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hooray, Bennie Day In-Reply-To: <1e1.13673ff1.2ce5e46e@aol.com> References: <1e1.13673ff1.2ce5e46e@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 14, 2003, Theo Groothof wrote: > In a message dated 11/13/2003 10:50:05 PM, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: >>I realize this is coming out strangely; but it's true. The dog let me have >>my moods and was always a comfort when I needed it, not on his or her own >>agenda. That's just a very warm and cozy thing to have waiting for you. >> > --------- > No, it's not strange. I understand what you're saying quite well. > I think my kitty is happy to see me when I come home after I've been gone, > but doesn't show it the way my dogs did. Burl has some behaviors that I find doglike. She always comes when called (unless she's busy, which happens rarely), and is always affectionate when she sees me. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 06:36:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAECaD6q025610 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:36:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1DDF91E602F3; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:30:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E47FB1E602F2 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:30:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4571E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 7:23:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 182724 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:23:16 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAECNGh08452 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:23:16 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAECN8v8028181 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:23:14 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:23:55 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <752316747.20031114062355@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <12a.34e62784.2ce5e580@aol.com> References: <12a.34e62784.2ce5e580@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 14, 2003, Theo Groothof wrote: > In a message dated 11/13/2003 10:58:08 PM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: >>Would Jesus have attacked Iraq? > ----- > Can't speak for Jesus, but it's a good question. Just remember that he was > human too though. I always ask myself, What Would Paul Do, because everyone knows he's the nicer twin. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 06:37:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAECbO6q025623 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:37:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 36E031E602F4; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:31:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 083091E602F3 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:31:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4572E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 7:24:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 182752 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:24:27 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAECORh08530 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:24:27 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAECOO5Z013729 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:24:25 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:25:11 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1784856044.20031114062511@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: HQX files? In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.0.20031114101206.0264e7b0@localhost> References: <525987390.20031113204557@WordWrite.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20031114101206.0264e7b0@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 14, 2003, Espen Ore wrote: > 20:45 13.11.2003 -0600 skrev Karen Kay: >>I need to extract an HQX file by 6:30 AM tomorrow. >> >>In theory WinZip can do this--but when I extract this file, even >>though the icons show up, the software can't tell the size, and so I >>can't use the file. >> >>Now... Has anyone used WinZip for HQX files? Any ideas? > This is probably still before 6:30 AM your time. There are other (free) software you can find on the net which explicitely handle HQX. But may there be a problem with Mac-files with > resource-/data-forks? You're right--it's 6:24. But I don't know what you mean about resource-/data forks. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 07:26:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEDQ76q026023 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:26:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EB8CF1E600A0; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:20:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDD6B1E6009C for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:20:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4581E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 8:13:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 185001 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:13:10 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEDD9h13379 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:13:09 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAEDD98b008774 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:13:09 -0500 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAEDD9fC002062 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:13:09 -0500 Message-ID: <026e01c3aab1$0f55a430$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "Wordslurs" Subject: Fw: car jacking Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:13:13 -0500 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU fyi... ----- Original Message ----- From: "frank difulco" To: Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 10:45 PM Subject: car jacking > an interesting tail of a car jacking in new orleans....there was a question > on the M/O, this one is a little different.. > > http://abc26.trb.com/wgno-pdshoot111203,0,3320971.story?coll=wgno-home-1 > Frank DiFulco > New Orleans LA From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 07:39:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEDde6q026151 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:39:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A83DA1E602F7; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:33:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 761881E602F6 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:33:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E38FC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 8:26:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 185520 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:26:42 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAEDQgh14588 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:26:42 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:26:42 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:26:12 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Marty and Mary?? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hAEDde6q026151 If you are an American (or citizen of any one of a list of countries that Canada considers friendly), you are allowed to be in Canada for six months at a time without a visa. If you want to stay for longer than that, you need to have permission. You can seek Permanent Resident status (i.e. permission to work in Canada and benefit from things like health care) if you are 1) A refugee from a country where your political views, etc. endanger your life 2) Nominated for PR status by one of the Provincial Governments 3) Sponsored by a family member already legally living in Canada 4) A Skilled Worker who can demonstrate a level of education and experience and adaptability to Canadian society as measured by a point system 5) the dpendent of one of the above. You can live temporarily in Canada (and not have access to benefits of PR status or Citizenship) if you are 1) hired to work at a Canadian job on a limited contract (status renewable yearly) or 2) a student at a Canadian institution of higher learning. Permanent Resident status is a prerequisite for Citizenship but one could live in Canada forever as a PR without ever becoming a Cit. BrP >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 11/13/03 05:54PM >>> Paul Barfoot wrote: > Here are the main themes > > Visiting: > http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/index.html > > Classes of immigration (living and working legally in Canada whether intending to become a Citizen or not): > http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/index.html > > Citizenship: > http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/citizen/menu-howto.html . What's the fun of asking on the list if the answer is going to be urls only? Surely somebody can give a quick summary of the answer. Maybe Nipper can. I wouldn't mind chasing those urls at some point, but I'm way behind. Still haven't even read online news today -- and may not get to it. I am happy to report that my DSL was fine when I got home this afternoon. But I'm awash in big papers -- have been grading them all afternoon. Finally quit from bleary-eyedness. Fortunately it's a TTh class, so I have the weekend to finish them. (Actually, there's no law that says I have to give them back at the next class meeting anyway, but it is my preferred mode of behavior.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 07:41:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEDfm6q026209 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:41:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 29D381E602F4; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:36:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B9B1E602F3 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:36:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A45866@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 8:28:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 185722 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:28:50 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAEDSoh15006 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:28:50 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:28:50 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:28:35 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: God and Caesar Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hAEDfm6q026209 Aha! Lloyd is Q ! It makes sense. >>> clostran@SYR.EDU 11/13/03 06:11PM >>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:05:44 -0500, Paul Barfoot wrote: >I swear my father told the same story. Do you suppose we could reconstruct, from variants in their versions, the "Q" ? > >:-) > >BrP > > > > >>>> clostran@SYR.EDU 11/13/03 01:57PM >>> >On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:35:14 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas > wrote: > >>On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Betty Clark wrote: >> >>>>! I don't understand that at all. Prayer and the liturgy of the word are >>>>much more important, and the Eucharist is the center. A good sermon can >>>>add - but it is hardly the center. >>> >>>Wish it were shorter then. >> >>How long are yours? Our max out at 12 minutes - unless a certain bishop >>is preaching. >> >>Bethany > >My father told a story about a minister who timed his sermons by sucking on >a lifesaver. (Why do I feel I've told this before suddenly?) One Saturday >his cuff button came off and he put it in his jacket pocket. You can guess >how delighted the parishioners were the next week, when the "lifesaver" >(hence the sermon) just kept going and going and going... > >clo My preliminary hypothesis would be Lloyd Shephard brought it home from a visit somewhere. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 07:45:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEDju6q026251 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:45:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2571B1E602F5; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:40:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB65F1E602F4 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:40:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A45885@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 8:32:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 185358 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:32:58 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEDMwh14238 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:22:58 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAEDMA3W023040 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:22:10 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:22:56 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Sequoyah Hills, Old City - it's all about the same Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Last night, as I pondered financial matters late in the evening, I heard squealing tires, then police sirens. The noises got closer, very close. Finally, I peered out my study window. There, next door, in another condo complex, were several police cars, many individuials, etc. Eventually, I saw the SUV on its side further back on the parking lot. (Later, I watched it being put upright, wondering if it would explode.) I did not learn what had happened until I watched the 11 p.m. news (which I normally do not do) - a coke dealer was apparently being arrested when he broke away, turned off Kingston Pike into Sequoyah Hills, turned into the parking lot for some weird reason, hit a tree, and flipped. As someone said recently, we are all people. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 07:55:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEDto6q026419 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:55:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1C03C1E60095; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:50:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7EFD1E60024 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:50:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A458C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 8:42:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 185930 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:42:45 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEDWih15696 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:32:44 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAEDVv3W008096 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:31:57 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:32:43 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: God and Caesar In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >My father told a story about a minister who timed his sermons by sucking on >a lifesaver. (Why do I feel I've told this before suddenly?) One Saturday >his cuff button came off and he put it in his jacket pocket. You can guess >how delighted the parishioners were the next week, when the "lifesaver" >(hence the sermon) just kept going and going and going... It's been a long time since I was in a church service for which the sermon had not been carefully rehearsed and timed. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 08:08:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEE8K6q026527 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:08:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 142891E6009B; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:02:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA1671E60095 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:02:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A45922@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 8:55:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 187445 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:55:22 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAEDtMh18544 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:55:22 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 05:55:16 PST Message-ID: <20031114135516.41397.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 05:55:16 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Dressing To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1ee.134cb6a1.2ce5d07a@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Theo Groothof wrote: > In a message dated 11/13/2003 4:24:40 PM, > lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: > > >Bear in mind those of us who put on > >TOO much weight, and would like to lose it. :-] > > > If it's any consolation, putting it on is just as > hard as losing it. :-} > Theo I've been in both positions, and for me, they are equally tough. Last year I weighed 82 pounds. I sort of over-compensated, so I'm not saying how much I gained. :-] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 08:25:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEEPe6q026643 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:25:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B52C41E6009A; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:19:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8769F1E60095 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:19:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A459A9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 9:12:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 188887 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:12:41 -0500 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEECfh21780 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:12:41 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.112.2b29dee6 (4468) for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:12:34 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <112.2b29dee6.2ce63cd2@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:12:34 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] yikes To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/14/2003 2:53:52 AM Central Standard Time, Espen.Ore@NB.NO writes: << Big Macs are bad for you. >> If I stayed away from everything that was bad for me, I'd eat nothing but veggies and rice (which are good with a little soy sauce). I don't drink, don't smoke, and don't have sex, so I'd like to do something a little bad, and that would be Big Macs. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Bennie 's here! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 08:29:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEET66q026663 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:29:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A2C4E1E6009B; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:23:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 703FA1E6009A for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:23:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A459AF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 9:16:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 189107 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:16:04 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEEG3h22273 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:16:03 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-222.gwi.net [216.195.152.222]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAEEG1Ar002096 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:16:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031114091446.00b2e908@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:15:54 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <20031114041727.70682.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> References: <000801c3aa4e$1fff4560$e1cadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >The Klan had its rudimentary origins in Scotland, >where cross burning had a very valid and apolitical >purpose. Cis-side, the Klan was extremely active in >New Jersey and the border states during the late >1930's and 1940's. Interesting. We used to often drive through Smithfield, North Carolina when we traveled from Oak Ridge, Tennessee to the North Carolina beach. There was a large billboard for many years in Smithfield that said "Welcome to the Home of the KKK." bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 08:33:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEEXR6q026701 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:33:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DA4571E6009A; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:27:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB23A1E60095 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:27:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A459DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 9:20:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 189439 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:20:29 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEEKSh23035 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:20:28 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-222.gwi.net [216.195.152.222]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAEEKNGn063524 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:20:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031114092013.00b4bbe8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:20:33 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <20031114050940.30934.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031113082435.00a50510@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Does anyone else miss T.S. as I do? Not me. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 08:45:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEEjH6q026817 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:45:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8A4A81E6009B; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:39:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 588271E6009A for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:39:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E3AB6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 9:32:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 190356 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:32:19 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEEWJh24850 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:32:19 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-222.gwi.net [216.195.152.222]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAEEWHAr004965 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:32:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031114092056.00bafda8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:32:27 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: dreaming In-Reply-To: <20031114052010.82469.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> References: <002101c3aa5f$b84ee8a0$e1cadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Most of the folks I know who will admit to being >anything, are lower middle innies. Last night I'd tried to think if I ever knew anyone who I would consider rich. I don't think I haveich to me would be a grand house, prep school, wide choice of colleges, yearly trips to warm or exotic places, maybe a servant or two including a nanny. If I could have been brought up in any family at all, I would have liked to have grown up in a wealthy Boston family that summered on a Maine island each year. I would have had three older brothers who all worshipped their baby sister. My parents would have doted on me because they always wanted a little girl. I would have learned to sail as a child and would have had no fear of water. I would have done well in school and been accepted to Yale, here I would have bummed around, got into a little trouble, majored in philosophy, sat up all night talking about the meaning of life. I would have gone to Woodstock with a bunch of friends. I would have snuck off to San Francisco one long weekend and heard the Doors play. Then one summer while I was in college I would have fallen in love with a discontented, highly intelligent, rich boy from the East who by an odd coincidence had summered with his family on the same Maine island that I had. We would have both dropped out of society and gone to live on that Maine island where our families were a known quantity and much loved. He would have taken up carpentry, for which he would discover a hidden love and talent, and I would have opened a little book and coffee shop which did well in the season and, although it didn't make any money in the winter, was just the kind of local gathering place that the island needed. Happily ever after. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 08:48:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEEmA6q026838 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:48:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E60BA1E6009D; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:42:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B32D81E6009B for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:42:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E3AE9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 9:35:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 190572 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:35:12 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEEZBh25334 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:35:11 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-222.gwi.net [216.195.152.222]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAEEZ8Gp066550; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:35:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031114093256.00b1cfe8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:35:09 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <20031114043227.73627.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031113211551.00b7b518@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:32 PM 11/13/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >All undeniably true. Were you taught this in school? Taught in the sense of a classroom subject/discussion, no; insofar as school was one of the environments in which I have learned things, yes. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 08:48:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEEmM6q026841 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:48:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9A9611E6009B; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:42:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CC8C1E6009A for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:42:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A45A5D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 9:35:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 190587 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:35:23 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEEZNh25376 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:35:23 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-222.gwi.net [216.195.152.222]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAEEZLAr005552 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:35:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031114093335.00b985b8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:35:00 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Dressing In-Reply-To: <1ee.134cb6a1.2ce5d07a@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >If it's any consolation, putting it on is just as hard as losing it. :-} >Theo For some. I just read that there are actually people who lose 200 pounds after a stomach stapling and then, even with that very much reduced stomach size, manage to put all the weight back on by eating rich foods with high caloric content, little by little, but constantly all day long. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 08:54:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEEsj6q026947 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:54:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 175771E602F2; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:49:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD9FA1E6009D for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:48:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A45A96@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 9:41:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 191403 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:41:47 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEEfkh27504 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:41:47 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-222.gwi.net [216.195.152.222]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAEEfjGn067779 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:41:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031114094102.00b2e908@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:41:54 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <3FB4C4ED.93A328B5@maynor.net> References: <184.230f385f.2ce5dba5@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Bonnie said that involved the term "working class," a term which >emphasizes the money component of the class divisions. (It's also a >term I find kind of goofy, but that's another matter. My students and I >sometimes have fun talking about that term.) > -- Natalie My family used to talk about people who "really work for a living." That seemed to exclude anyone who sat behind a desk. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 08:59:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEExR6q027006 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:59:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 87A481E6009D; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:53:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55D431E6009B for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:53:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A45ABB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 9:46:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 191751 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:46:28 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEEkSh28468 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:46:28 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-222.gwi.net [216.195.152.222]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAEEkQGn068715 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:46:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031114094400.00b4bbe8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:46:37 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Marty and Mary?? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Permanent Resident status is a prerequisite for Citizenship but one could >live in Canada forever as a PR without ever becoming a Cit. --BrP Very good, nicer twin. Good summary. Now what I would like to know, please, is just how difficult in practice (vs. in theory) would it be for Marty and Mary (or Bonnie and Clyde) to be approved as a permanent resident if all they good prove is that they were nice people, owned a house there, and had sufficient income from US sources so that they wouldn't be an undue burden on Canadian society? bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 09:31:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEFVi6q027456 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:31:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6138C1E600AB; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:25:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 334751E600A9 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:25:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A45BDE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:18:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 194429 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:18:44 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEFIhh01408 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:18:43 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A45BEA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:18:42 -0500 Message-Id: <200311141518.hAEFIhh01408@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:18:43 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: dreaming To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:32:27 -0500, bonniev wrote: >Last night I'd tried to think if I ever knew anyone who I would consider >rich. I don't think I haveich to me would be a grand house, prep school, >wide choice of colleges, yearly trips to warm or exotic places, maybe a >servant or two including a nanny. Not even as an adult, you haven't known people like that? I find that sort of surprising. >If I could have been brought up in any family at all, I would have liked to >have grown up in a wealthy Boston family that summered on a Maine island >each year. I would have had three older brothers who all worshipped their >baby sister. My parents would have doted on me because they always wanted >a little girl. I would have learned to sail as a child and would have had >no fear of water. I would have done well in school and been accepted to >Yale, here I would have bummed around, got into a little trouble, majored >in philosophy, sat up all night talking about the meaning of life. Yale would have been an interesting place to major in philosophy. You would have been made to take linguistics, though. > Happily ever after. I have had such adolescent fantasies, but mostly I feel that they pale beside My Real Life. I hope you feel that way, too, and recognize that you are living happily ever after. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 09:34:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEFYq6q027512 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:34:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 41FF21E600AB; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:29:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F6F31E600A9 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:29:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E3CA2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:21:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 195049 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:21:53 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEFLrh02046 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:21:53 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A45C3C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:21:53 -0500 Message-Id: <200311141521.hAEFLrh02046@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:21:53 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: God and Caesar To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 05:57:23 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> >> The logical center of the Order of Worship is the celebration of >> dedication >> >> in light of the mysteries of death, rebirth, and sovereignty. On >> >> non-Communion (Eucharist in low church style) days, there's just a hole >> >> around which the service flows. >> > >> >Did your father's churches do Communion/Eucharist every Sunday? >> >> No, it was usually once a month (the 4th Sunday, I think, or maybe the 1st >> and 5th Sundays, so sometimes 2 in a row) and on certain special days - but > >Did he not feel that it was the logical center of the service? > >> communion though I told him I didn't feel well. He suspected me of >> , so I felt vindicated and even ecstatic (though unwell) when >> I urpsed in the tray of communion cups! > >Wonderful! Did the people following you partake? > LOL! No, it was pretty much a show-stopper I think. I was pretty thorough! However, I don't really know what happened, as I was escorted from the building! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 09:44:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEFiA6q027574 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:44:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B9AAA1E600AB; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:38:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 890141E600A9 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:38:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A45CAB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:31:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 196112 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:31:11 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEFVBh04015 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:31:11 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E3D00@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:31:11 -0500 Message-Id: <200311141531.hAEFVBh04015@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:31:11 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Hooray, Bennie Day To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:23:09 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Friday, November 14, 2003, Theo Groothof wrote: >> In a message dated 11/13/2003 10:50:05 PM, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: > >>>I realize this is coming out strangely; but it's true. The dog let me have >>>my moods and was always a comfort when I needed it, not on his or her own >>>agenda. That's just a very warm and cozy thing to have waiting for you. >>> >> --------- >> No, it's not strange. I understand what you're saying quite well. >> I think my kitty is happy to see me when I come home after I've been gone, >> but doesn't show it the way my dogs did. > >Burl has some behaviors that I find doglike. She always comes when >called (unless she's busy, which happens rarely), and is always >affectionate when she sees me. > >Karen Artemis (Mercy's ocecat) has recently started responding to a "come hither" gesture as well as playing fetch, which she and all her father's progeny do instinctively, from kittenhood. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 09:44:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEFiD6q027577 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:44:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 497A81E600AB; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:38:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 131951E600A9 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:38:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A45CB8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:31:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 196118 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:31:14 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEFVEh04026 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:31:14 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-222.gwi.net [216.195.152.222]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAEFVCAr016238 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:31:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031114102932.00b985b8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:31:23 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: dreaming In-Reply-To: <200311141518.hAEFIhh01408@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Not even as an adult, you haven't known people like that? I find that sort >of surprising. I find it sort of surprising too. But, then, like I always say, I really don't know all that many people. >I have had such adolescent fantasies, but mostly I feel that they pale >beside My Real Life. I hope you feel that way, too, and recognize that you >are living happily ever after. --Karen Well, it did take me an awful long time to get here to my Maine island. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 09:48:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEFmm6q027635 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:48:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A475B1E600AB; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:43:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 754501E600A6 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:43:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A45D35@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:35:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 197020 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:35:49 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEFZnh05250 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:35:49 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAEFZlxu023513 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:35:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FB4F606.8080302@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:34:30 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: yikes References: <112.2b29dee6.2ce63cd2@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > In a message dated 11/14/2003 2:53:52 AM Central Standard Time, > Espen.Ore@NB.NO writes: > << > Big Macs are bad for you. > > > If I stayed away from everything that was bad for me, I'd eat > nothing but veggies and rice (which are good with a little soy > sauce). I don't drink, don't smoke, and don't have sex, so > I'd like to do something a little bad, and that would be Big Macs. You have an odd opinion of sex. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 09:49:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEFn46q027638 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:49:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ED0FA1E600A9; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:43:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD63A1E600A6 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:43:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A45D2B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:36:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 197041 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:36:06 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEFa5h05307 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:36:05 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:38:02 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id W5K0QAM1; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:37:58 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031114163524.026eb4c0@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:35:58 +0100 Subject: Re: yikes In-Reply-To: <112.2b29dee6.2ce63cd2@aol.com> References: <112.2b29dee6.2ce63cd2@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 09:12 14.11.2003 -0500 skrev Evelyn Duncan: >In a message dated 11/14/2003 2:53:52 AM Central Standard Time, >Espen.Ore@NB.NO writes: ><< >Big Macs are bad for you. >>> > >If I stayed away from everything that was bad for me, I'd eat >nothing but veggies and rice (which are good with a little soy >sauce). I don't drink, don't smoke, and don't have sex, so >I'd like to do something a little bad, and that would be Big Macs. I believe wine is better for you than Big Macs are (not to mention sex). Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 09:51:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEFpM6q027672 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:51:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1C98D1E600AA; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:45:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E073E1E600A9 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:45:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A45D5D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:38:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 197382 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:38:24 -0500 Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEFcOh05796 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:38:24 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HOC001MYM3Z19@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:38:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:34:27 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:34:27 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: REALTOR.com Listing #598675 To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <76b1c876ad5d.76ad5d76b1c8@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Natalie Maynor > Marie Ascher wrote: > > > > > I don't know much about the geography of CP. About the only place > > > I can > > > name specifically where I've watched dogs romping is near the road > > > thatcrosses the park at about 79th St. or so. I've jogged along > > > that road > > > watching romping dogs. > > > > Probably the Sheep's Meadow. > > Iirc, the romping dogs were on the right as I was going east. Yep. That sounds about right. I'll have to see if I could swing it, but Laszlo and I would enjoy romping with you a bit. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 10:09:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEG9E6q027822 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:09:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 94A361E600A9; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:03:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62CCE1E6006D for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:03:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E3E60@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:56:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 199383 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:56:15 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEFuFh09737 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:56:15 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E3E44@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:56:15 -0500 Message-Id: <200311141556.hAEFuFh09737@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:56:15 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: dreaming To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:31:23 -0500, bonniev wrote: >>Not even as an adult, you haven't known people like that? I find that sort >>of surprising. > >I find it sort of surprising too. But, then, like I always say, I really >don't know all that many people. Sorry, I don't believe that for a minute! >Well, it did take me an awful long time to get here to my Maine island. True, but it what makes a life lived Happily Ever After is attitude, not islands. The people I've known that were rich were no more or less happier than the people I've known who were dirt poor. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 10:26:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEGQA6q027991 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:26:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A14061E600AC; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:20:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B36B1E600A3 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:20:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A45F3F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:13:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 201615 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:13:11 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEGDBh14124 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:13:11 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAEGD8tS7839864 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:13:08 -0600 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:13:08 -0600 (CST) From: nam gal sips clark X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: God and Caesar In-Reply-To: <444864155.20031113192148@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031113075207.00a54b70@uclink.berkeley.edu> <001e01c3a99b$cead6140$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031111134225.00b62090@pop.gwi.net> <000a01c3a884$95530020$e1cadece@0018079268> <60553109.1068667207@TWild.uri.edu> <001e01c3a99b$cead6140$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031113075207.00a54b70@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.1.5.2.20031113132652.00a56ae0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FB41B0D.E7ED2B88@maynor.net> <444864155.20031113192148@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: > I think the perfect actor to play Bertie Wooster would > be Edward Everett Horton--in his younger days. If you insist, though I'm one of those people who thinks Wodehouse doesn't come off the page onto the screen very well. Like when Psmith winces when someone pronounces his name as "Smith". The joke doesn't work on TV. -- fractured fairy tale From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 10:29:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEGT96q028019 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:29:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F21631E600AB; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:23:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A933B1E600A3 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:23:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A45F6F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:16:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 201928 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:16:03 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEGG3h14830 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:16:03 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E3F6B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:16:02 -0500 Message-Id: <200311141616.hAEGG3h14830@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:16:02 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: God and Caesar To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:13:08 -0600, nam gal sips clark wrote: >On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >> I think the perfect actor to play Bertie Wooster would >> be Edward Everett Horton--in his younger days. > >If you insist, though I'm one of >those people who thinks Wodehouse >doesn't come off the page onto the >screen very well. > >Like when Psmith winces when someone >pronounces his name as "Smith". The >joke doesn't work on TV. I do understand--I've hated Nero Wolfe on TV. But I do think that EEH was cast as BW in some of the movies he was in. I'm thinking principally of the Fred Astaire movies he was in. >fractured fairy tale Exactly! I love you man. You know you're our twin underneath it all. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 10:34:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEGYm6q028074 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:34:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C125E1E600AC; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:29:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89EC81E600AB for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:29:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A45FA9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:21:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 202507 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:21:49 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAEGLnh16040 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:21:49 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:21:42 PST Message-ID: <20031114162142.40769.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:21:42 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Hooray, Bennie Day To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200311140607.hAE67Xh29683@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > So far animals have always found us, as in lost or > abandoned in the woods, > stray and starving at a farmhouse, etc. > > We are in waiting. > clo May the Dogmeister wag and grin on you. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 10:35:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEGZ56q028077 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:35:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 948881E600AE; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:29:19 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 526AB1E600AC for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:29:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A45F90@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:22:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 202541 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:22:06 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEGM6h16161 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:22:06 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-222.gwi.net [216.195.152.222]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAEGM4Ar026282 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:22:05 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031114111807.00bbb9c0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:22:14 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: dreaming In-Reply-To: <200311141556.hAEFuFh09737@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >I find it sort of surprising too. But, then, like I always say, I really > >don't know all that many people. > >Sorry, I don't believe that for a minute! --Karen I don't know why you don't believe that. If I count as "people I know" (right now in my face-to-face, everyday life) those people with whom I have some meaningful contact at least once a month, I know about eight present or former Inn-owners, an Internet Cafe owner, and a few neighbors. That's it. From my former lives, I have regular, meaningful contact with about six people. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 10:35:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEGZh6q028081 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:35:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E40EB1E600AB; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:29:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A11AC1E600A3 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:29:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A45FA8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:22:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 202640 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:22:43 -0500 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEGMhh16394 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:22:43 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.29.4b26c517 (2168) for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:22:34 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <29.4b26c517.2ce65b4a@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:22:34 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] yikes To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/14/2003 9:36:08 AM Central Standard Time, rouvalis@SWBELL.NET writes: << You have an odd opinion of sex. >> I was just kidding about sex; sheesh! Drinking, too. Not all sex and drinking are bad, but I'm just not interested in either. And Big Macs are not bad, either. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Bennie 's here! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 10:43:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEGhG6q028202 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:43:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 43BF11E600AC; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:37:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 145441E600AB for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:37:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4602D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:30:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 203610 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:30:17 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEGUHh18378 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:30:17 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAEGUEe6009251 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:30:15 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002a01c3aacc$947d5d40$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200311131408.hADE8hB06910@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FB40DF5.3EAFBC72@maynor.net> <000a01c3aa41$c5af44e0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB4204A.77578B9A@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031113193351.00ba7e80@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031113211551.00b7b518@pop.gwi.net> <3FB44A58.80662B45@maynor.net> <002101c3aa5f$b84ee8a0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB4C045.BE59C6B6@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: middle-classed Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:30:09 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Doris Markland wrote: > > > Actually, where I grew up we were so > > dumb we didn't even have an in crowd. > > You must have lived in a very strange place. Do you have trouble > catching on to movies and books involving teenagers in schools etc? > Obviously we don't have to have experienced everything we read about in > order to grasp it, but I think most writers assume a certain amount of > common knowledge, of universality, re basic human behavior. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) No. I am aware of cliques and teenage jealousies and all that and I observed it when my daughter went through school, but don't remember it from my school days. Could be because it was a small school. Could be because the war broke out and we had bigger things to think about. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 10:50:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEGok6q028253 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:50:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 56D401E600AE; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:45:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 179CB1E600AC for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:45:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A46071@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:37:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 204307 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:37:47 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEGbkh19990 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:37:46 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAEGbj2f013038 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:37:45 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAEGbiJC013012; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:37:45 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031114083325.00a66150@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:34:00 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <20031114050940.30934.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031113082435.00a50510@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:09 PM 11/13/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >Indeed, we all do the same thing to one another, to >some extent. We are all capable of keeping it on a >humorous, rather than a spiteful level, I would hope. Why? >Does anyone else miss T.S. as I do? How do you miss him? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 10:51:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEGp26q028256 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:51:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 093BC1E600B0; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:45:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C967A1E600AE for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:45:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A46082@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:38:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 204343 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:38:03 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEGc2h20044 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:38:02 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAEGc0e6027969 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:38:01 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <005201c3aacd$aa1c39e0$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031114135516.41397.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: Dressing Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:37:58 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Lynne: > I've been in both positions, and for me, they are > equally tough. Last year I weighed 82 pounds. I sort > of over-compensated, so I'm not saying how much I > gained. :-] > How tall are you? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 10:53:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEGrB6q028287 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:53:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1A4BA1E600AE; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:47:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC5071E600AC for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:47:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4609D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:40:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 204597 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:40:12 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEGe9h20648 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:40:09 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAEGe8eO028710 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:40:08 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAEGe7a2028692 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:40:08 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031114083555.00a68080@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:36:22 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: God and Caesar In-Reply-To: <3FB4195A.84DC5EE4@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031113140922.00b39e80@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:52 PM 11/13/2003 -0600, you wrote: >"clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > > > >There's also the story about how to improve speaking ability: put a > marble > > >in your mouth, then read the speech aloud until you are satisfied with it. > > >Add another marble and repeat, etc. > > > > Apparently it worked for Demosthenes... > >Thank you, Clyde. I suddenly blanked on who it was and wimped out with >"ancient Greece." > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Isn't this new Clyde/Natalie love fest cute? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 10:56:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEGuK6q028314 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:56:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 010F01E600AE; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:50:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3AB11E60091 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:50:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A460AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:43:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 205008 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:43:21 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAEGhKh21651 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:43:20 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:43:15 PST Message-ID: <20031114164315.18543.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:43:15 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: middle-classed To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200311140651.hAE6puh32662@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: a romantic > nostalgia for the old South, > but, more importantly, it expressed the defensive > reaction of white > Protestants in small-town America who felt > threatened by the Bolshevik > revolution in Russia and by the large-scale > immigration of the previous > It's nice to have some facts to chew on. However, > this doesn't address the > very active nature of Klan activity in the midwest > at various times. > > I would pull up some demographics on Klan activity > in various regions over > time, but I unfortunately have a lot of work to do > before driving to Phila. > in the am. > Next batter up! > clo Or batter back. Crosses were burned in Scotland in the centuries before mass communication and mass media to arouse neighboring "clans" to the dangers of encroaching enemies. Burning crosses could be seen for miles around in the Highlands, and from tors in the lowland/border marches. The citation given above does not mention these origins. Burning crosses became rallying points in Scotland when clans fell upon one another, and upon their perennial enemies, the English. In this country in the 1930's, the "Klan" was active enough in New Jersey as to cause deep concern within the law enforcement community. Klan members were viable suspects in an infamous double murder case in New Jersey, although today the case is officially carried on the books as unsolved. The Klan was active not only in racial matters, but in cases of domestic violence, habitual drunkenness, child abuse, and other matters that uneducated and unprincipled individuals banded together to rectify as they saw fit. This is little mention of the non-racial activities of the Klan in contemporary "historical" accounts. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 10:59:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEGxW6q028325 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:59:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 946361E600AE; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:53:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6198B1E60091 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:53:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A460FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:46:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 205475 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:46:33 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAEGkXh22591 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:46:33 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:46:26 PST Message-ID: <20031114164626.19556.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:46:26 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: God and Caesar To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.0.20031114093909.025a12f0@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Espen Ore wrote: > It seems to me that the basis for this story goes > back to Greece and Demosthenes? > > Espen Of course it does. In all probability, it is the only mention of Demosthenes most people have ever heard. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 11:04:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEH4E6q028356 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:04:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0257F1E602F4; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:58:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C632F1E600B0 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:58:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E40D7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:51:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 206042 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:51:14 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEGpEh23858 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:51:14 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAEGpAtS6512660 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:51:11 -0600 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:51:10 -0600 (CST) From: nam gal sips clark X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: God and Caesar In-Reply-To: <20031114164626.19556.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031114164626.19556.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > Of course it does. In all probability, it is the only > mention of Demosthenes most people have ever heard. That was also the stage name of George Savalas. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 11:06:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEH6T6q028370 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:06:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8C1871E600B0; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:00:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5653A1E60091 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:00:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4614C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:53:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 206222 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:53:30 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEGrUh24267 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:53:30 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E40E1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:53:30 -0500 Message-Id: <200311141653.hAEGrUh24267@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:53:30 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: God and Caesar To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:13:08 -0600, nam gal sips clark wrote: >On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >> I think the perfect actor to play Bertie Wooster would >> be Edward Everett Horton--in his younger days. > >If you insist, though I'm one of >those people who thinks Wodehouse >doesn't come off the page onto the >screen very well. > >Like when Psmith winces when someone >pronounces his name as "Smith". The >joke doesn't work on TV. > On the other hand, I have always longed to see and hear "The Truth About George". The guy who did "I, Claudius" (sorry, short on sleep) comes to mind. clo >-- >fractured fairy tale yes, and Top Hat, right? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 11:06:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEH6g6q028384 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:06:42 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9250B1E6018C; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:00:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C0071E600AE for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:00:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A46133@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:53:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 206235 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:53:43 -0500 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.99]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEGrhh24300 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:53:43 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.16c.265d5876 (2168) for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:53:25 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <16c.265d5876.2ce66285@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:53:25 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] God and Caesar To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/14/2003 10:46:43 AM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << Of course it does. In all probability, it is the only mention of Demosthenes most people have ever heard. >> There's always the Algonquin Round table joke: Demosthenes can do is bend and hold the legs together. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Bennie 's here! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 11:06:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEH6x6q028395 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:06:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C5A231E6018C; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:01:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83FD31E600B0 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:01:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A46135@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:53:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 206255 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:53:59 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEGrxh24347 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:53:59 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E40E4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:53:59 -0500 Message-Id: <200311141653.hAEGrxh24347@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:53:59 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: God and Caesar To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:46:26 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >Of course it does. In all probability, it is the only >mention of Demosthenes most people have ever heard. How has knowing the story of Demosthenes improved your life? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 11:09:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEH9X6q028407 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:09:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D45E81E602F4; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:03:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A01D61E6018C for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:03:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E40E3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:56:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 206493 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:56:33 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEGuXh24844 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:56:33 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E4106@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:56:33 -0500 Message-Id: <200311141656.hAEGuXh24844@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:56:33 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: middle-classed To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:30:09 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: >> Doris Markland wrote: >> >> > Actually, where I grew up we were so >> > dumb we didn't even have an in crowd. >> >> You must have lived in a very strange place. Do you have trouble >> catching on to movies and books involving teenagers in schools etc? >> Obviously we don't have to have experienced everything we read about >in >> order to grasp it, but I think most writers assume a certain amount of >> common knowledge, of universality, re basic human behavior. >> >> -- >> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > >No. I am aware of cliques and teenage jealousies and >all that and I observed it when my daughter went through >school, but don't remember it from my school days. >Could be because it was a small school. Could be >because the war broke out and we had bigger things >to think about. > > - D. M. Could also be that you have either a selective or a blanked memory. My husband has severe difficulty remembering past events, particularly if painful - which makes it really difficult to resolve problems, because he can't remember what he did! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 11:10:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEHAg6q028413 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:10:42 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0EED21E602F5; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:04:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA6FB1E6018C for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:04:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A46158@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:57:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 206605 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:57:43 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEGvgh25104 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:57:42 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E4108@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:57:42 -0500 Message-Id: <200311141657.hAEGvgh25104@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:57:42 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: God and Caesar To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:53:30 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >yes, and Top Hat, right? Also "The Gay Divorcee" and "Shall We Dance?" K From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 11:11:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEHBi6q028418 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:11:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 917DA1E6018C; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:05:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DF0A1E600AE for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:05:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A46175@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:58:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 206655 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:58:45 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEGwjh25255 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:58:45 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAEGwge6016261 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:58:43 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000401c3aad0$8e496500$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <002101c3aa5f$b84ee8a0$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031114092056.00bafda8@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: dreaming Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:58:40 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > have both dropped out of society and gone to live on that Maine island > where our families were a known quantity and much loved. He would have > taken up carpentry, for which he would discover a hidden love and talent, > and I would have opened a little book and coffee shop which did well in the > season and, although it didn't make any money in the winter, was just the > kind of local gathering place that the island needed. Happily ever after. > > > bonnie Thanks for the mini-novel. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 11:24:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEHO36q028556 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:24:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 790931E600B4; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:18:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 473951E600AE for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:18:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E4193@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:11:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 208169 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:11:04 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAEHB4h27886 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:11:04 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:10:59 PST Message-ID: <20031114171059.79210.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:10:59 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: middle-classed To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031114083325.00a66150@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Betty Clark wrote: > At 09:09 PM 11/13/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > > >Indeed, we all do the same thing to one another, to > >some extent. We are all capable of keeping it on a > >humorous, rather than a spiteful level, I would > hope. > > Why? Because it's preferable to being hurtful, rude, and at each other's throats. > > >Does anyone else miss T.S. as I do? > > How do you miss him? Let me count the ways. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 11:25:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEHPJ6q028576 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:25:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A1E7F1E600B4; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:19:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 741451E600AE for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:19:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A46231@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:12:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 208296 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:12:19 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAEHCJh28192 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:12:19 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:12:11 PST Message-ID: <20031114171211.37095.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:12:11 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: God and Caesar To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031114083555.00a68080@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Betty Clark wrote: > >Thank you, Clyde. I suddenly blanked on who it was > and wimped out with > >"ancient Greece." > > > >-- > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > Isn't this new Clyde/Natalie love fest cute? Should we advise them to get a room? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 11:25:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEHPf6q028579 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:25:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9DF711E6018C; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:19:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F3581E600B4 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:19:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A46223@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:12:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 208371 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:12:33 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEHCWh28303 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:12:32 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAEHCV9u017402 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:12:31 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FB50CB2.80500@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:11:14 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <200311141656.hAEGuXh24844@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:30:09 -0600, Doris Markland > wrote: > > >>>Doris Markland wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Actually, where I grew up we were so >>>>dumb we didn't even have an in crowd. >>>> >>>You must have lived in a very strange place. Do you have trouble >>>catching on to movies and books involving teenagers in schools etc? >>>Obviously we don't have to have experienced everything we read about >>> >>in >> >>>order to grasp it, but I think most writers assume a certain amount of >>>common knowledge, of universality, re basic human behavior. >>> >>>-- >>> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) >>> >>No. I am aware of cliques and teenage jealousies and >>all that and I observed it when my daughter went through >>school, but don't remember it from my school days. >>Could be because it was a small school. Could be >>because the war broke out and we had bigger things >>to think about. >> >> - D. M. >> > > Could also be that you have either a selective or a blanked memory. > My husband has severe difficulty remembering past events, particularly if > painful - which makes it really difficult to resolve problems, because he > can't remember what he did! Memory is highly subjective for everyone. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 11:26:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEHQU6q028591 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:26:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6B55A1E6018C; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:20:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D38C1E600B4 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:20:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4623F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:13:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 208479 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:13:28 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAEHDSh28506 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:13:28 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:13:22 PST Message-ID: <20031114171322.79998.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:13:22 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Dressing To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <005201c3aacd$aa1c39e0$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > How tall are you? 5'3" - when not reaching for the moon. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 11:27:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEHRY6q028620 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:27:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6141C1E600AE; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:21:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 344261E60091 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:21:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A46264@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:14:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 208783 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:14:35 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAEHEZh29255 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:14:35 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:14:30 PST Message-ID: <20031114171430.80430.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:14:30 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: God and Caesar To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- nam gal sips clark wrote: > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > > Of course it does. In all probability, it is the > only > > mention of Demosthenes most people have ever > heard. > > That was also the stage name of George Savalas. Yeah, well, anyone can have a stage name. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 11:29:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEHTC6q028625 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:29:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B7F251E600B4; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:23:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A3F21E600AE for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:23:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A46252@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:16:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 208884 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:16:12 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEHGCh29560 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:16:12 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-222.gwi.net [216.195.152.222]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAEHG9At036621; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:16:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031114120137.00b55ea0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:01:59 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: God and Caesar In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031114083555.00a68080@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <3FB4195A.84DC5EE4@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031113140922.00b39e80@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:36 AM 11/14/2003 -0800, Betty Clark wrote: >Isn't this new Clyde/Natalie love fest cute? Go play with your cell phone. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 11:29:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEHTQ6q028628 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:29:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 309EC1E600AE; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:23:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 012021E60091 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:23:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4625B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:16:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 208922 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:16:26 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAEHGQh29625 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:16:26 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:16:20 PST Message-ID: <20031114171620.74995.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:16:20 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: God and Caesar To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200311141653.hAEGrxh24347@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > How has knowing the story of Demosthenes improved > your life? I make it a point to spit out marbles. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 11:31:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEHVr6q028651 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:31:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 26E061E60099; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:26:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EACCE1E60091 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:26:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E41DF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:18:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 209202 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:18:54 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAEHIrh30199 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:18:53 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:18:48 PST Message-ID: <20031114171848.11343.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:18:48 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: middle-classed To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200311141656.hAEGuXh24844@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Could also be that you have either a selective or a > blanked memory. > My husband has severe difficulty remembering past > events, particularly if > painful - which makes it really difficult to resolve > problems, because he > can't remember what he did! In my husband's case, forgetfulness of things past is a marvelous convenience. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 11:43:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEHho6q028731 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:43:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0AE841E600B2; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:38:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1DF11E60099 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:38:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A462DB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:30:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 210092 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:30:50 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAEHUoh32639 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:30:50 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:30:43 PST Message-ID: <20031114173043.42742.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:30:43 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: middle-classed To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031114091446.00b2e908@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: > > Interesting. We used to often drive through > Smithfield, North Carolina > when we traveled from Oak Ridge, Tennessee to the > North Carolina > beach. There was a large billboard for many years > in Smithfield that said > "Welcome to the Home of the KKK." I am not for a moment suggesting that the Klan did not find its spiritual home in the South. I was merely pointing out that it was/is not exclusive to the South. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 12:16:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEIGS6q029140 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:16:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D32CE1E600B4; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:10:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 905251E60099 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:10:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A463D3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:03:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 212444 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:03:28 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEI3Sh06221 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:03:28 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAEI3PtS4407492 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:03:25 -0600 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:03:25 -0600 (CST) From: nam gal sips clark X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: God and Caesar In-Reply-To: <20031114171430.80430.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031114171430.80430.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > Yeah, well, anyone can have a stage name. Stupidest stage names EVAR: Jane Seymour David Copperfield Good stage names: Rip Torn Whoopi Goldberg Discuss. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 12:23:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEINX6q029184 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:23:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 060441E6018C; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:17:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6ECC1E600C5 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:17:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A46400@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:10:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 212804 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:10:34 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEIAXh07237 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:10:33 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4640E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:10:33 -0500 Message-Id: <200311141810.hAEIAXh07237@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:10:33 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: God and Caesar To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:03:25 -0600, nam gal sips clark wrote: >Stupidest stage names EVAR: > Jane Seymour > David Copperfield > >Good stage names: > Rip Torn > Whoopi Goldberg > >Discuss. If your name was Joyce Penelope Wilhelmina Frankenberg or David Seth Kotkin, wouldn't you change your name? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 13:33:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEJXL6q029841 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:33:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 540611E6018C; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:27:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C6471E600C5 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:27:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A466A4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:20:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 218966 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:20:21 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEJKKh21472 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:20:21 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAEJKHtS2842650 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:20:18 -0600 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:20:17 -0600 (CST) From: nam gal sips clark X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: God and Caesar In-Reply-To: <200311141810.hAEIAXh07237@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: References: <200311141810.hAEIAXh07237@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: > If your name was Joyce Penelope Wilhelmina Frankenberg or David Seth > Kotkin, wouldn't you change your name? Perhaps, but not to something unutterably stupid as Jane Seymour or David Copperfield. Something cool, like "Hugh Beaumont". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 13:41:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEJfA6q029877 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:41:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DD08E1E6018C; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:35:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 959E51E600C5 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:35:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A466F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:28:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 219834 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:28:09 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEJS8h23344 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:28:08 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E460D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:28:08 -0500 Message-Id: <200311141928.hAEJS8h23344@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:28:08 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: God and Caesar To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:20:17 -0600, nam gal sips clark wrote: >On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >> If your name was Joyce Penelope Wilhelmina Frankenberg or David Seth >> Kotkin, wouldn't you change your name? > >Perhaps, but not to something unutterably >stupid as Jane Seymour or David Copperfield. > >Something cool, like "Hugh Beaumont". It's been interesting to watch my brothers morph. They started life as Bob and Dick, named after my mother's twin brothers Bob and Dick (not to be confused with her twin sisters Maggie and Kay--my grandmother was incredibly efficient). Now they are Rich and Rob. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 13:49:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEJno6q029941 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:49:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A8A361E602B4; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:44:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4866C1E6018C for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:44:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E4665@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:36:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 220777 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:36:49 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEJanh25277 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:36:49 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E465D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:36:48 -0500 Message-Id: <200311141936.hAEJanh25277@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:36:49 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: middle-classed To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:30:43 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- bonniev wrote: >> >> Interesting. We used to often drive through >> Smithfield, North Carolina >> when we traveled from Oak Ridge, Tennessee to the >> North Carolina >> beach. There was a large billboard for many years >> in Smithfield that said >> "Welcome to the Home of the KKK." > > >I am not for a moment suggesting that the Klan did not >find its spiritual home in the South. I was merely >pointing out that it was/is not exclusive to the South. > That's not the point, though. - The original comment was about the Klan lately finding its "spiritual home" in the Midwest, by which I infer "Bible Belt". - The second comment, in response, asked if the Klan was not founded in the south - which investigation showed to be the case; the original KKK was in fact founded as a Confed Vets Association in Smithfield TN. - Investigation also confirmed that the The "second coming" of the KKK began in AL, and is still alive today, all over the country (though reduced in strength and influence); and - Natalie's question as to where it, and other hate orgs, is most active (is it the Midwest?) remains unanswered still. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 13:52:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEJq66q029990 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:52:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4238A1E602B4; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:46:19 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 103EB1E6018C for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:46:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A46786@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:39:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 220946 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:39:06 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEJd6h25726 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:39:06 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E4653@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:39:05 -0500 Message-Id: <200311141939.hAEJd6h25726@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:39:05 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: God and Caesar To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:28:08 -0500, Karen Kay wrote: >On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:20:17 -0600, nam gal sips clark > wrote: > >>On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >>> If your name was Joyce Penelope Wilhelmina Frankenberg or David Seth >>> Kotkin, wouldn't you change your name? >> >>Perhaps, but not to something unutterably >>stupid as Jane Seymour or David Copperfield. >> >>Something cool, like "Hugh Beaumont". > >It's been interesting to watch my brothers morph. They started life as Bob >and Dick, named after my mother's twin brothers Bob and Dick (not to be >confused with her twin sisters Maggie and Kay--my grandmother was >incredibly efficient). Now they are Rich and Rob. > >Karen Having brothers names "Rob" and "Rich" requires me to query why your sister's names are not "Give" and "Poor". clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 13:53:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEJrI6q029996 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:53:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 88D5F1E602B4; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:47:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C901E6018C for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:47:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A46790@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:40:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 221057 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:40:18 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEJeIh25997 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:40:18 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAEJeFtS6946954 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:40:15 -0600 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:40:15 -0600 (CST) From: nam gal sips clark X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: God and Caesar In-Reply-To: <200311141928.hAEJS8h23344@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: References: <200311141928.hAEJS8h23344@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: > It's been interesting to watch my brothers morph. They started life as Bob > and Dick, named after my mother's twin brothers Bob and Dick (not to be > confused with her twin sisters Maggie and Kay--my grandmother was > incredibly efficient). Now they are Rich and Rob. Bob became Rich and Dick became Rob? Maybe you're mistaking one twin for the other. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 13:54:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEJsE6q030015 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:54:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 07A261E602B4; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:48:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC20B1E6018C for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:48:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A46795@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:41:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 221108 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:41:08 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEJf8h26088 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:41:08 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E4664@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:41:08 -0500 Message-Id: <200311141941.hAEJf8h26088@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:41:08 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: my trip to Phila To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It's not that I'm not avoiding driving to Phila, but I didn't need to be helped by suddenly "possibly postponed" events that we were trying to get last-minute publicity out for at work, and a snowstorm. Gah! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 13:57:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEJv86q030049 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:57:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CB2E91E602F4; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:51:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F8531E602B4 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:51:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E4687@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:44:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 221600 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:44:07 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEJi7h27109 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:44:07 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E46AA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:44:07 -0500 Message-Id: <200311141944.hAEJi7h27109@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:44:07 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: my trip to Phila To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:41:08 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >It's not that I'm not avoiding driving to Phila, but I didn't need to be >helped by suddenly "possibly postponed" events that we were trying to get >last-minute publicity out for at work, and a snowstorm. Gah! So you're still going? Has it stopped snowing? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 14:12:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEKCh6q030142 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:12:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7F55D1E602F4; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:06:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33FA71E6018C for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:06:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4687D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:59:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 223174 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:59:42 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEJxfh29760 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:59:42 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:59:36 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B777A1@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: The Klan; was: RE: middle-classed Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:59:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Lynne Weber [mailto:lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 12:31 PM --- bonniev wrote: > > Interesting. We used to often drive through > Smithfield, North Carolina > when we traveled from Oak Ridge, Tennessee to the > North Carolina > beach. There was a large billboard for many years > in Smithfield that said > "Welcome to the Home of the KKK." I am not for a moment suggesting that the Klan did not find its spiritual home in the South. I was merely pointing out that it was/is not exclusive to the South. ----------------------- At one time in the early 1900s, the percentage of the adult male population in Indiana in the Klan is said to have been *exceptionally* high. Even if the members weren't known to conduct agressive activities it was seen as a social function, not unlike Masons, Kiwanis, Elk Lodge, etc. and it was said many politicians could not become elected without being a member. Some of my friends were told when growing up to avoid certain towns & cities after dark, fearing something might still happen. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 14:14:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEKE56q030148 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:14:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7FDC21E6018C; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:08:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F2D51E600BE for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:08:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E4731@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:01:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 223367 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:01:04 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEK13h30132 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:01:03 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:00:58 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B777A2@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: God and Caesar Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:00:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: nam gal sips clark [mailto:rjscheid@NADAL.LOYNO.EDU] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 2:40 PM On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >> It's been interesting to watch my brothers morph. They started life as Bob >> and Dick, named after my mother's twin brothers Bob and Dick (not to be >> confused with her twin sisters Maggie and Kay--my grandmother was >> incredibly efficient). Now they are Rich and Rob. >Bob became Rich and Dick became Rob? >Maybe you're mistaking one twin for the other. It doesn't seem many men keep the name Dick but instead use Richard, Rick, Rich - for obvious reasons. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 15:09:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEL9a6q030831 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:09:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D64ED1E601F9; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:03:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F8A01E600C1 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:03:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A46AC9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:56:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 229324 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:56:35 -0500 Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEKuZh10220 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:56:35 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HOD008PS0U9VW@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:56:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.135] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:52:34 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:52:34 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: yikes To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <7a20497a4fa8.7a4fa87a2049@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > If I stayed away from everything that was bad for me, I'd eat > > nothing but veggies and rice (which are good with a little soy > > sauce). I don't drink, don't smoke, and don't have sex, so > > I'd like to do something a little bad, and that would be Big Macs. > > > You have an odd opinion of sex. Not to mention soy sauce. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 15:11:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAELBW6q030863 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:11:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5DBF61E601F9; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:05:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DE4F1E600C1 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:05:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A46AE9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:58:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 229525 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:58:31 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEKwVh10630 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:58:31 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAEKwU8b029440 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:58:30 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAEKwUfC016206 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:58:30 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:58:29 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Genealogy jackpot Message-ID: <218843562.1068825509@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <20031114045402.27590.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031114045402.27590.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --On Thursday, November 13, 2003 8:54 PM -0800 Lynne Weber wrote: > It's almost like making new friends, isn't it, even > when you've known "of" the relatives for some time? > "Way cool" is a pretty good feeling. > Definitely. I've always loved the stories my grandmother's told. Many of them were not situations I would want to find myself in but it spoke of the values and way of life they had. One of my grandmothers was sent at 14 to NH to help out relatives who owned a hotel. She had never met them. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 15:13:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAELDx6q030914 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:13:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AD8301E600C1; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:08:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E32F1E600BB for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:08:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A46AF7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:00:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 229760 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:00:58 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAEL0wh10953 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:00:58 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:00:50 PST Message-ID: <20031114210050.51789.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:00:50 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: God and Caesar To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- nam gal sips clark wrote: > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > > Yeah, well, anyone can have a stage name. > > Stupidest stage names EVAR: > Jane Seymour _Imitation is... > David Copperfield Ditto > > Good stage names: > Rip Torn Rip Torn was once married to Claire Bloom (true) Name on mailbox - Torn-Bloom > Whoopi Goldberg - Good? As good as Rock Hudson? > > Discuss. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 15:14:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAELEr6q030917 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:14:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 166621E601F9; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:09:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA55F1E600C1 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:09:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A46B00@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:01:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 229858 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:01:53 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAEL1qh11135 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:01:52 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:01:47 PST Message-ID: <20031114210147.67747.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:01:47 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: God and Caesar To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- nam gal sips clark wrote: > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: > > If your name was Joyce Penelope Wilhelmina > Frankenberg or David Seth > > Kotkin, wouldn't you change your name? > > Perhaps, but not to something unutterably > stupid as Jane Seymour or David Copperfield. > > Something cool, like "Hugh Beaumont". Or Hermione Gingold. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 15:16:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAELGA6q030925 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:16:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4D2DA1E602F4; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:10:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19E271E601F9 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:10:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A46B1D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:03:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 230150 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:03:09 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAEL39h11640 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:03:09 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:03:01 PST Message-ID: <20031114210301.98621.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:03:01 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: God and Caesar To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200311141928.hAEJS8h23344@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > They started life as Bob > and Dick, named after my mother's twin brothers Bob > and Dick (not to be > confused with her twin sisters Maggie and Kay--my > grandmother was > incredibly efficient). Now they are Rich and Rob. > > Karen They've become what they are and what they do? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 15:19:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAELJG6q030990 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:19:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CFBF21E602F4; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:13:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 989F11E601F9 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:13:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A46B25@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:06:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 230420 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:06:15 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAEL6Fh12239 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:06:15 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:06:10 PST Message-ID: <20031114210610.46606.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:06:10 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: yikes To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <7a20497a4fa8.7a4fa87a2049@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote: > > You have an odd opinion of sex. > > Not to mention soy sauce. However, taken together... __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 15:23:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAELNJ6q031046 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:23:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DD79D1E602F4; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:17:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B3C11E601F9 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:17:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A46B3D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:10:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 230677 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:10:18 -0500 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAELAIh12951 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:10:18 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.141.1c92baf7 (17228) for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:10:07 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <141.1c92baf7.2ce69eaf@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:10:07 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] yikes To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/14/2003 2:56:48 PM Central Standard Time, 14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET writes: << Not to mention soy sauce. >> I think I'll have that for dinner; steam some veggies, cook some rice, and mix them with a butter-soy sauce mixture. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Bennie 's here! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 15:32:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAELWG6q031175 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:32:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C0E3F1E601F9; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:26:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B6A41E600C1 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:26:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E4A14@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:19:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 231266 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:19:15 -0500 Received: from mail46.messagelabs.com (mail46.messagelabs.com [64.125.76.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAELJFh14373 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:19:15 -0500 Received: (qmail 5641 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2003 21:19:11 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-8.tower-46.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 14 Nov 2003 21:19:11 -0000 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85244D8B for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:19:11 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-46.messagelabs.com!1068844751!108388 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.13; banners=.,-,- From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: my trip to Phila Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:19:11 -0500 Message-ID: <000801c3aaf4$f2ceff20$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <200311141941.hAEJf8h26088@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Carolyn Ostrander >Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 2:41 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: my trip to Phila > > >It's not that I'm not avoiding driving to Phila, but I didn't >need to be >helped by suddenly "possibly postponed" events that we were >trying to get >last-minute publicity out for at work, and a snowstorm. Gah! > >clo > In Philly speaks, where and when? alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 15:34:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAELXx6q031185 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:34:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A2FBB1E601F9; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:28:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6625C1E600C1 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:28:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A46B8D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:20:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 231314 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:20:58 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAELKwh14554 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:20:58 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:20:52 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B777A3@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Genealogy jackpot Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:20:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Terry Wild [mailto:twild@URI.EDU] > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 3:58 PM > --On Thursday, November 13, 2003 8:54 PM -0800 Lynne Weber > wrote: > > > It's almost like making new friends, isn't it, even > > when you've known "of" the relatives for some time? > > "Way cool" is a pretty good feeling. > > > > Definitely. I've always loved the stories my grandmother's > told. Many of > them were not situations I would want to find myself in but > it spoke of the > values and way of life they had. One of my grandmothers was > sent at 14 to > NH to help out relatives who owned a hotel. She had never met them. This is the type of project my maternal grandmother undertook when she got her PC, which I believe I've mentioned before. She wanted|wants to leave behind more than a family tree filled with pictures, names, dates, etc. and has worked to put together all of the family stories & information she's heard in her lifetime as well as her other relatives who have purchased PCs (under the guise of "if she can do it, I can too") and they all stay in touch via PC much more than they were via phone before (and that was a lot) - so this has meant a bunch of octogenarians spending a lot of time cross-pollenating all of the information. That, plus her three mile daily walk keeps her out of trouble. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 15:35:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAELZF6q031222 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:35:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AC2AD1E601F9; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:29:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7B91E600C1 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:29:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A46B9F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:22:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 231379 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:22:06 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAELM4h14791 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:22:05 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:21:58 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B777A4@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: God and Caesar Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:21:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Lynne Weber [mailto:lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 4:01 PM > --- nam gal sips clark > wrote: > > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > > > Yeah, well, anyone can have a stage name. > > > > Stupidest stage names EVAR: > > Jane Seymour _Imitation is... > > David Copperfield Ditto > > > > Good stage names: > > Rip Torn > > Rip Torn was once married to Claire Bloom (true) > Name on mailbox - Torn-Bloom > > > Whoopi Goldberg - Good? As good as Rock Hudson? > > > > > > Discuss. Look back at some of the characters The Beverly Hillbillies invented for the movie studio to court Ellie May (e.g., Dash Riprock) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 15:37:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAELbY6q031265 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:37:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3063B1E601F9; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:31:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F25FE1E600C1 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:31:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A46B9D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:24:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 231594 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:24:29 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAELOTh15227 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:24:29 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2003111421242201200s8uple>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:24:22 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031114131939.027f31d0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:23:42 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: yikes In-Reply-To: <141.1c92baf7.2ce69eaf@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan writes, >I think I'll have that for dinner; steam some veggies, cook some rice, >and mix them with a butter-soy sauce mixture. Rice gets soy sauce (and sometimes furikake) here, but veggies or noodles-for-kids get oyster sauce . The premium style -- the others aren't nearly as good. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 15:45:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAELjF6q031383 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:45:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 71BE01E6000F; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:39:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC541E600C1 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:39:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A46C15@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:32:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 232533 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:32:02 -0500 Received: from fe2.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAELW2h16758 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:32:02 -0500 Received: from [136.167.88.140] (HELO bc.edu) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP id 34898409 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:31:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB549A2.8070709@bc.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:31:14 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: The White Dog References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031114131939.027f31d0@mail.istori.com> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031114131939.027f31d0@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I was just looking at the webcam url that Natalie posted some time ago. The white dog is walking there now. http://www.ie.msstate.edu/netcam/netcam.htm Rita L. -- Rita Leonard Information Technology Systems Services From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 16:03:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEM3m6q031590 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:03:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 13E521E600C2; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:58:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF5131E600C1 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:57:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A46CC0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:50:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 233204 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:50:46 -0500 Received: from mail46.messagelabs.com (mail46.messagelabs.com [64.125.76.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAELekh18089 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:40:46 -0500 Received: (qmail 26572 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2003 21:40:40 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-15.tower-46.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 14 Nov 2003 21:40:40 -0000 Received: from att.net (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02990D42 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:40:40 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: words-l@att.net X-Msg-Ref: server-15.tower-46.messagelabs.com!1068846040!108574 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.13; banners=.,-,- Message-ID: <3FB54BD8.2000803@att.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:40:40 -0500 From: Words-l Organization: None User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-l Subject: I love my new email address Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This is my new test email. alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 16:29:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEMTJ6q031775 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:29:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1543F1E601F9; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:23:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73A851E600C9 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:23:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A46E21@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:16:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 237281 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:16:15 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEMGEh24567 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:16:14 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-222.gwi.net [216.195.152.222]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAEMGDGn044708 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:16:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031114171526.02f75e98@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:16:24 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Genealogy jackpot In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B777A3@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >This is the type of project my maternal grandmother undertook ... ... >cross-pollenating all of the information. That, plus her three mile daily >walk keeps her out of trouble. --Phil This reminds me of one of my favorite jokes: Last year my grandmother started walking three miles a day and now we don't know where the hell she is. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 16:51:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEMpp6q031991 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:51:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 914621E600C2; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:46:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6193E1E600CA for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:46:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E4CE2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:38:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 238421 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:38:49 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAEMcnh27077 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:38:49 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:38:43 PST Message-ID: <20031114223843.26090.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:38:43 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Genealogy jackpot To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B777A3@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Phil Paxton wrote: > > This is the type of project my maternal grandmother > undertook when she got > her PC, which I believe I've mentioned before. She > wanted|wants to leave > behind more than a family tree filled with pictures, > names, dates, etc. and > has worked to put together all of the family stories > & information she's > heard in her lifetime as well as her other relatives > who have purchased PCs > (under the guise of "if she can do it, I can too") > and they all stay in > touch via PC much more than they were via phone > before (and that was a lot) > - so this has meant a bunch of octogenarians > spending a lot of time > cross-pollenating all of the information. That, > plus her three mile daily > walk keeps her out of trouble. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 16:54:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEMsN6q032009 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:54:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B40091E600CA; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:48:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 833611E600C2 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:48:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A46EA4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:41:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 238542 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:41:21 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEMfAh27418 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:41:10 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.169.188]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031114224104.URSS21803.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:41:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB559F9.B7D01298@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:40:57 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: The White Dog! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It's odd that the picture with this story isn't the same picture that was in the print edition -- the caption fit the one in the print edition but doesn't fit this one since he's not stretching: http://www.reflector-online.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2003/11/14/3fb538b96a30e or http://tinyurl.com/v26e -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 17:06:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEN6f6q032134 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:06:42 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 690041E600CE; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:00:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38B7B1E600CB for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:00:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A46F0A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:53:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 239425 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:53:40 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEMrdh29569 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:53:40 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.169.188]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031114225334.PLFJ20993.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:53:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB55CF0.3E9960A9@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:53:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Marty and Mary?? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: >Canada considers friendly), you are allowed to be in Canada for six months at a time without a visa. If you want to stay for longer than that, you need to have permission. > > You can seek Permanent Resident status (i.e. permission to work in Canada and benefit from things like health care) if you are 1) A refugee from a country where > You can live temporarily in Canada (and not have access to benefits of PR status or Citizenship) if you are 1) hired to work at a Canadian job on a limited contract ( What if you want to retire there? That doesn't seem to fit any of the above situations. If you have to have permission to stay longer than six months, then you have to take some kind of official action, but it seems to me that you probably wouldn't qualify for Permanent Resident status since it would seem for you to be allowed to take advantage of things like the health care. Is there some kind of special permission given to allow you to live there permanently but not as an official Permanent Resident? You would, of course, be paying property taxes and sales taxes, but, as I said earlier, I can't see how it would be exactly fair to be allowed to take advantage of the medical care when moving there in old age, having not paid Canadian taxes until that time. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 17:08:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAEN8f6q032160 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:08:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E2FEE1E600CC; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:02:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB6ED1E600CB for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:02:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E4D43@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:55:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 239551 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:55:39 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEMtch29836 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:55:38 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.169.188]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031114225533.PMCG20993.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:55:33 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB55D66.8474676F@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:55:34 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dressing References: <20031114135516.41397.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Last year I weighed 82 pounds. I sort > of over-compensated, so I'm not saying how much I > gained. :-] How tall are you? And I wonder what somebody who just arrived here would think the connection was between the subject header and the current discussion. Dressing to hide or exaggerate weight? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 17:10:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAENAh6q032173 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:10:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D5DD51E600CE; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:04:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A77F61E600CC for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:04:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A46F1D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:57:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 239615 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:57:41 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEMvfh30075 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:57:41 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.169.188]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031114225736.PMYH20993.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:57:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB55DDE.8E524059@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:57:34 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: dreaming References: <002101c3aa5f$b84ee8a0$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031114092056.00bafda8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Nice story, Bonniemae! I could live that life quite happily. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 17:12:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAENCw6q032177 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:12:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 074B91E600CE; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:07:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C763B1E600CC for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:07:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A46F41@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:59:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 239826 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:59:56 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEMxuh30429 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:59:56 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.169.188]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031114225951.PNUC20993.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:59:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB55E68.E9EF9AD7@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:59:52 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Marty and Mary?? References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031114094400.00b4bbe8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Very good, nicer twin. Good summary. Now what I would like to know, > please, is just how difficult in practice (vs. in theory) would it be for > Marty and Mary (or Bonnie and Clyde) to be approved as a permanent resident > if all they good prove is that they were nice people, owned a house there, > and had sufficient income from US sources so that they wouldn't be an undue > burden on Canadian society? That's basically what I'm asking also -- like even if expected to pay for the health care, would they be allowed to live in their retirement home more than six months at a time? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 17:13:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAENDa6q032186 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:13:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 15DD01E600CC; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:07:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB0431E600CB for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:07:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E4D71@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:00:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 240058 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:00:34 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEN0Yh30584 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:00:34 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.169.188]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031114230029.POBO20993.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:00:29 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB55E8E.D3C1A7A5@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:00:30 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: REALTOR.com Listing #598675 References: <76b1c876ad5d.76ad5d76b1c8@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > I'll have to see if I could swing it, but Laszlo and I would enjoy romping > with you a bit. That would be way cool! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 17:16:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAENGp6q032231 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:16:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9DBD21E600CE; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:11:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7033C1E600CC for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:11:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A46F76@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:03:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 240315 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:03:49 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEN3nh30900 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:03:49 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.169.188]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031114230344.PPHU20993.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:03:44 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB55F51.8F453F76@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:03:45 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: dreaming References: <200311141556.hAEFuFh09737@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > The people I've known that were rich were no more or less happier than the > people I've known who were dirt poor. I think studies have shown that to be generally true (though exactly how one tests happiness, I'm not sure). Or at least they've shown that the rich are no more or less happy than the non-rich. When you get down to dirt poor, I think the things I've read have said that happiness does become less likely -- because of the constant worry and scrambling just to survive. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 17:22:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAENMf6q032380 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:22:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4E5A61E600CF; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:14:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20EA31E600CE for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:14:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E4DA6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:07:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 240514 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:07:43 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEN7gh31364 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:07:42 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.169.188]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031114230737.PQSX20993.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:07:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB5603A.E7BF9319@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:07:38 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: yikes References: <29.4b26c517.2ce65b4a@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > I was just kidding about sex; sheesh! > Drinking, too. Not all sex and drinking are bad, but I'm just not > interested in either. I thought what you said was funny. > And Big Macs are not bad, either. Aren't fatty foods suddenly in again? Somebody at lunch today said that he'd read that red meat, pork rinds, and eggs were soaring these days in sales volumn. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 17:22:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAENMv6q032421 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:22:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B4E4D1E600CE; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:17:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86C0A1E600CC for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:17:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A46F87@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:09:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 240632 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:09:55 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAEN9th31540 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:09:55 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.169.188]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031114230946.PRQM20993.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:09:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB560BC.7F60C194@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:09:48 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: God and Caesar References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031113140922.00b39e80@pop.gwi.net> <5.1.1.5.2.20031114083555.00a68080@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > >Thank you, Clyde. I suddenly blanked on who it was and wimped out with > >"ancient Greece." > > Isn't this new Clyde/Natalie love fest cute? ? I would've written the above to anybody who had provided the name that had slithered out of my leaky brain. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 17:23:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAENNQ6q032425 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:23:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C07EF1E600CC; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:17:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE96F1E600CB for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:17:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A46F90@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:10:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 240687 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:10:22 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAENAMh31648 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:10:22 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.169.188]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031114231017.PRXC20993.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:10:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB560DA.1D8D5D9A@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:10:18 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dressing References: <20031114135516.41397.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> <005201c3aacd$aa1c39e0$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > >Lynne: > > I've been in both positions, and for me, they are > > equally tough. Last year I weighed 82 pounds. I sort > > of over-compensated, so I'm not saying how much I > > gained. :-] > > > > How tall are you? The cloning of Doris and Natalie. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 17:24:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAENOJ6q032428 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:24:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BFCD51E600CE; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:18:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90CB11E600CC for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:18:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A46F94@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:11:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 240764 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:11:17 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAENBHh31880 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:11:17 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAENBEtS2154644 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:11:14 -0600 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:11:14 -0600 (CST) From: nam gal sips clark X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: God and Caesar In-Reply-To: <20031114210050.51789.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031114210050.51789.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > Whoopi Goldberg - Good? As good as Rock Hudson? Well, it wasn't an exhaustive list. "Whoopi Goldberg", for example, is a good stage name because it's preposterous and obvious, the kind of fake name a comic should have. Like Billy Idol. jeezopeet, "Jane Seymour"????? And anyway, wasn't Rock Hudson the name the studio gave him? Watch the MST episode of "Space Mutiny" for a primer of asinine MANLY NAMES. -- Buck Glute-Ripped From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 17:27:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAENRX6q032470 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:27:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7BA061E600CC; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:21:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1EB1E600CB for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:21:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A46FBF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:14:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 240938 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:14:31 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAENEVh32245 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:14:31 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAENEStS950356 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:14:28 -0600 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:14:28 -0600 (CST) From: nam gal sips clark X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dressing In-Reply-To: <3FB55D66.8474676F@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <20031114135516.41397.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> <3FB55D66.8474676F@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Last year I weighed 82 pounds. > How tall are you? No kidding. I'd be afeerd to hug an 82-pound woman; break her in half by mistake, y'could. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 17:31:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAENVI6q032505 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:31:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 10B271E600CC; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:25:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D67231E600CB for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:25:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A46FB2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:18:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 241083 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:18:16 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAENIGh32741 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:18:16 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.169.188]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031114231811.PUWQ20993.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:18:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB562B4.19692CBA@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:18:12 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <200311141936.hAEJanh25277@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > - Natalie's question as to where it, and other hate orgs, is most active > (is it the Midwest?) remains unanswered still. I had forgotten about this topic and haven't had time to it anyway. It did occur to me not long after mentioning Missouri as what I was thinking was the home of the KKK headquarters that I think I was thinking of that CCC or CCCC group -- the Conservative Whatever. I think it's the one that I did a websearch for a few months ago and found headquartered somewhere like St. Louis. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 17:31:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAENVN6q032508 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:31:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 665F11E600CC; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:25:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35F9B1E600CB for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:25:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A46FB3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:18:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 241090 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:18:21 -0500 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAENILh32754 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:18:21 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.122.282a85eb (4560) for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:18:12 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <122.282a85eb.2ce6bcb4@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:18:12 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] yikes To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/14/2003 5:07:58 PM Central Standard Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << Aren't fatty foods suddenly in again? Somebody at lunch today said that he'd read that red meat, pork rinds, and eggs were soaring these days in sales volumn. >> Anything low-carb is soaring in sales due to the Atkins diet. Bakers and orange-juice manufactures are suffering due to the same reason. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Bennie 's here! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 17:39:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAENdV6q032586 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:39:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5D82E1E600CF; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:33:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AF811E600CB for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:33:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A46FEE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:26:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 241410 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:26:29 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAENQSh01522 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:26:28 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAENQPtS917674 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:26:26 -0600 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:26:25 -0600 (CST) From: nam gal sips clark X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: yikes In-Reply-To: <3FB5603A.E7BF9319@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <29.4b26c517.2ce65b4a@aol.com> <3FB5603A.E7BF9319@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > sales volumn. What an odd typo. Halfway through, your hands muscle-memoried "column", or what? Have I axed this before, or is New Orleans the only place where some people don't say "collum", but "coll-yoom"? Threw me off the first time I heard it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 17:41:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAENfO6q032593 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:41:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 730CD1E600CF; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:35:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4178A1E600CB for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:35:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A46FF0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:28:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 241450 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:28:22 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAENSMh01729 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:28:22 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.169.188]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031114232816.PYQP20993.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:28:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB56512.C4F59D0F@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:28:18 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The White Dog References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031114131939.027f31d0@mail.istori.com> <3FB549A2.8070709@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: > > I was just looking at the webcam url that Natalie posted some time ago. > The white dog is walking there now. > > http://www.ie.msstate.edu/netcam/netcam.htm WAY COOL! I'm glad you got to see The White Dog -- sort of. It had occurred to me one day not long ago that he would probably be visible from that webcam from time to time since he hangs out in that area at times. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 18:12:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF0Cc6q000510 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:12:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 910441E600CB; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:06:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A43F1E60036 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:06:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A47040@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:59:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 242406 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:59:29 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAENxTh04346 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:59:29 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.169.188]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031114235924.VUNS21803.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:59:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB56C5D.82701130@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:59:25 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: yikes References: <122.282a85eb.2ce6bcb4@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > Anything low-carb is soaring in sales due to the Atkins diet. > Bakers and orange-juice manufactures are suffering due to > the same reason. Right. Somebody mentioned a decline in orange juice sales in this discussion today. I know I'm mutant, but I can't imagine getting so het-up about the latest diet trend. And there ain't no way in hell I'm giving up my orange juice. You can take my morning coffee away, no big deal, but I'll fight you tooth and nail for my morning orange juice. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 18:15:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF0FO6q000518 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:15:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7596F1E600D2; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:09:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43A921E600CB for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:09:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A47039@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:02:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 242611 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:02:22 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF02Mh04895 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:02:22 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.169.188]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031115000217.VVNA21803.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:02:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB56D0A.8BFEBC49@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:02:18 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: yikes References: <29.4b26c517.2ce65b4a@aol.com> <3FB5603A.E7BF9319@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU nam gal sips clark wrote: > > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > sales volumn. > > What an odd typo. Halfway through, your > hands muscle-memoried "column", or what? I don't know. How does one know what leads to typos? But why do you assume it's a typo? Maybe that's how I think it's supposed to be spelled. > Have I axed this before, or is New Orleans > the only place where some people don't say > "collum", but "coll-yoom"? I don't think I've heard that one before. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 18:19:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF0Ji6q000559 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:19:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 24B031E600CB; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:13:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E68961E60036 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:13:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4704F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:06:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 242702 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:06:42 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF06fh05229 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:06:41 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAF06eW1006901 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:06:40 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAF06dWq006882 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:06:40 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031114160216.00a5a6c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:02:54 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: yikes In-Reply-To: <3FB56C5D.82701130@maynor.net> References: <122.282a85eb.2ce6bcb4@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:59 PM 11/14/2003 -0600, you wrote: >Evelyn Duncan wrote: > > > Anything low-carb is soaring in sales due to the Atkins diet. > > Bakers and orange-juice manufactures are suffering due to > > the same reason. > >Right. Somebody mentioned a decline in orange juice sales in this >discussion today. I know I'm mutant, but I can't imagine getting so >het-up about the latest diet trend. And there ain't no way in hell I'm >giving up my orange juice. You can take my morning coffee away, no big >deal, but I'll fight you tooth and nail for my morning orange juice. Have you tried ruby red grapefruit juice? I got tired of OJ. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 18:24:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF0OH6q000590 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:24:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9529A1E600CB; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:18:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65D931E600D4 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:18:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E4E64@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:11:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 242555 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:11:15 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF01Fh04717 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:01:15 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAF00QeN009983 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:00:28 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:01:12 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: yikes In-Reply-To: <3FB56C5D.82701130@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <122.282a85eb.2ce6bcb4@aol.com> <3FB56C5D.82701130@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >discussion today. I know I'm mutant, but I can't imagine getting so >het-up about the latest diet trend. And there ain't no way in hell I'm >giving up my orange juice. You can take my morning coffee away, no big >deal, but I'll fight you tooth and nail for my morning orange juice. Natalie, you really MUST work on your priorities. Give up morning coffee??? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 18:34:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF0YI6q000698 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:34:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A7ED61E600D5; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:28:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E1D71E600D4 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:28:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4709F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:21:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 243348 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:21:16 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF0LGh06955 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:21:16 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.169.188]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031115002110.KGD6276.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:21:10 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB57178.FC8FB012@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:21:12 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: yikes References: <122.282a85eb.2ce6bcb4@aol.com> <3FB56C5D.82701130@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Natalie, you really MUST work on your priorities. Give up morning > coffee??? I could quite easily give up coffee. I'm sure I must be addicted to it since I do drink it every morning and would thus if I suddenly quit doing so. But I really don't think it would be a serious addiction to overcome. I had to teach myself to drink it -- as in I found it quite foul-tasting when I first tried it (ditto beer), but I did teach myself to enjoy it in an odd sort of way -- odd in that it is certainly not anything that would be high on my list of things I would crave if stranded on a desert island. And I really, really dislike coffee after 7 a.m. I also dislike its smell after 7 a.m. I find the smell of coffee in mid-day or later much more repulsive than the smell of cigarette smoke or even perfume. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 18:39:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF0dk6q000729 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:39:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E147A1E600D5; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:33:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD7C21E600D4 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:33:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A470AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:26:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 243492 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:26:43 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f112.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.112]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF0Qhh07289 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:26:43 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:26:37 -0800 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 00:26:37 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: source of arthur miller's all my sons Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:26:37 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Nov 2003 00:26:37.0900 (UTC) FILETIME=[21F3F0C0:01C3AB0F] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I finally got around to identifying the historical source for this play which, as I recall, Peter asked about a few weeks ago. I have the information in a .pdf file, which can't be sent to the list, and it won't be convenient for me to publish the articles to the web for a few days, but I'll happily email them to the first volunteer willing to post them to the web for general consumption. Email me directly on this please. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Shopping upgraded for the holidays! Snappier product search... http://shopping.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 18:45:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF0jm6q000858 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:45:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2390A1E600D9; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:39:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8FE51E600D3 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:39:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A470BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:31:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 243722 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:31:57 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF0Vvh07954 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:31:57 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.169.188]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031115003152.YUSS17368.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:31:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB573F9.2EF9C737@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:31:53 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: yikes References: <122.282a85eb.2ce6bcb4@aol.com> <5.1.1.5.2.20031114160216.00a5a6c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > Have you tried ruby red grapefruit juice? I got tired of OJ. As a child, I think I was almost allergic to grapefruit juice. I was never a child about foods or beverages. But I found grapefruit juice really horrifying. It's funny that we should be talking about this right now because I started to tell my grapefruit-juice story when replying to clo's barf-in-the-offering-plate story, but I was rushing and didn't bother to tell it. My family was on a trip to Washington and New York when I was twelve. We were spending the night in a motel in Blowing Rock, NC, and at breakfast for some reason there was only grapefruit juice, no orange juice. When I said to my parents, "I really don't like grapefruit juice," my mother said, "Don't be silly." So I drank the glass of grapefruit juice. We finished breakfast and when walking back to the room, I barfed all over the walkway. My mother was chagrined, saying that she hadn't realized that I was really allergic to grapefruit juice. That sticks in my memory for lots of reasons, one of the chief of which is that I felt bad about it. I didn't want my mother to feel bad about having made me drink grapefruit juice. I just couldn't help vomiting. Grapefruit juice was so very, very bitter and foul. Anyway, I have since then learned to drink grapefruit juice without vomiting, and I sometimes eat grapefruit, also without vomiting. And if it hadn't been pouring down rain when I drove through Blowing Rock last August, I would have stopped at a place that looked vaguely like that motel we stayed in in '55. I looked at it through the horrendously strong downpour and thought, "I *THINK* that's where I vomited up the grapefruit juice." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 18:51:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF0pB6q000937 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:51:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 615401E600D9; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:45:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F1881E600D3 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:45:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A470DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:38:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 243954 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:38:09 -0500 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF0c8h08737 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:38:08 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1c0.11b157b4 (4539) for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:37:50 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1c0.11b157b4.2ce6cf5e@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:37:50 EST Subject: Re: Dressing To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/14/2003 7:55:33 AM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: >I've been in both positions, and for me, they are >equally tough. Last year I weighed 82 pounds. I sort >of over-compensated, so I'm not saying how much I >gained. :-] > ----- C'mon, tell me how you did it, PLEASE! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 18:53:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF0rU6q000964 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:53:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 658651E600D9; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:47:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33FFA1E600D5 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:47:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A470E1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:40:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 244027 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:40:28 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF0eRh08977 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:40:28 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAF0eQ9u005940 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:40:27 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FB57593.9000803@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:38:43 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dressing References: <1c0.11b157b4.2ce6cf5e@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Speaking of weight, my dad has gained back 3 pounds. I don't know how much he lost through the radiation and surgeries, but he was very, very thin and gaunt when I was visiting over the summer. This is pretty good news. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 19:04:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF14c6q001103 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:04:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 61B3F1E600D9; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:58:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F9F71E600D5 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:58:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A470F2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:51:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 244368 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:51:36 -0500 Received: from imo-m03.mx.aol.com (imo-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.6]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF0pah09943 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:51:36 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.b6.24eec5a8 (4539) for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:51:26 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:51:26 EST Subject: Re: yikes To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/14/2003 8:12:51 AM, BrandyKitt@AOL.COM writes: >If I stayed away from everything that was bad for me, I'd eat >nothing but veggies and rice (which are good with a little soy >sauce). I don't drink, don't smoke, and don't have sex, so >I'd like to do something a little bad, and that would be Big Macs. > ----- Besides, how would I ever gain weight? But unfortunately, I HATE the yukky things! Yesterday after my surgeon's appointment that they postponed without telling me, my daughter and I had a wonderful dinner: spaghetti with red wine, big enough salad to be a meal in it's own, plus a couple more drinks. If that doesn't add a little weight, I give up! :-{ Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 19:14:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF1EA6q001181 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:14:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D75CB1E602F7; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:08:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3BAF1E600DB for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:08:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E4F48@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:01:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 244723 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:01:07 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF117h10732 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:01:07 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAF115W1021664 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:01:05 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAF114Wq021634; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:01:05 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031114165628.00a5d580@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:57:18 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: yikes In-Reply-To: <3FB573F9.2EF9C737@maynor.net> References: <122.282a85eb.2ce6bcb4@aol.com> <5.1.1.5.2.20031114160216.00a5a6c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:31 PM 11/14/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty Clark wrote: > > > Have you tried ruby red grapefruit juice? I got tired of OJ. > >As a child, I think I was almost allergic to grapefruit juice. I was >never a child about foods or beverages. But I found grapefruit >juice really horrifying. It's funny that we should be talking about >this right now because I started to tell my grapefruit-juice story when >replying to clo's barf-in-the-offering-plate story, but I was rushing >and didn't bother to tell it. My family was on a trip to Washington and >New York when I was twelve. We were spending the night in a motel in >Blowing Rock, NC, and at breakfast for some reason there was only >grapefruit juice, no orange juice. When I said to my parents, "I really >don't like grapefruit juice," my mother said, "Don't be silly." So I >drank the glass of grapefruit juice. We finished breakfast and when >walking back to the room, I barfed all over the walkway. My mother was >chagrined, saying that she hadn't realized that I was really allergic to >grapefruit juice. That sticks in my memory for lots of reasons, one of >the chief of which is that I felt bad about it. I didn't want my mother >to feel bad about having made me drink grapefruit juice. I just >couldn't help vomiting. Grapefruit juice was so very, very bitter and >foul. > >Anyway, I have since then learned to drink grapefruit juice without >vomiting, and I sometimes eat grapefruit, also without vomiting. And if >it hadn't been pouring down rain when I drove through Blowing Rock last >August, I would have stopped at a place that looked vaguely like that >motel we stayed in in '55. I looked at it through the horrendously >strong downpour and thought, "I *THINK* that's where I vomited up the >grapefruit juice." > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I repeat. Have you tried ruby red grapefruit juice in the carton? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 19:22:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF1M26q001242 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:22:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8235B1E602F6; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:16:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D121E600DB for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:16:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4713C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:09:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 244998 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:09:00 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF190h11293 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:09:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.169.188]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031115010854.YHDK11940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:08:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB57CA7.86139D99@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:08:55 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: yikes References: <122.282a85eb.2ce6bcb4@aol.com> <5.1.1.5.2.20031114160216.00a5a6c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FB573F9.2EF9C737@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > replying to clo's barf-in-the-offering-plate story, but I was rushing Communion -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 19:23:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF1NE6q001257 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:23:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 270441E602F6; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:17:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDAA91E600DB for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:17:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A47124@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:10:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 245031 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:10:12 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF1ABh11435 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:10:11 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.169.188]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031115011006.YHNJ11940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:10:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB57CEF.40D4ED1@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:10:07 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: yikes References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > telling me, my daughter and I had a wonderful dinner: spaghetti with red wine, > big enough salad to be a meal in it's own, plus a couple more drinks. If that It's good to hear you talk about enjoying something. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 19:24:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF1O86q001274 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:24:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9D78D1E600DB; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:18:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ED741E600D3 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:18:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A47127@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:11:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 245055 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:11:05 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF1B5h11501 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:11:05 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAF1B1Hn025408 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:11:03 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <005f01c3ab15$597971e0$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <1c0.11b157b4.2ce6cf5e@aol.com> <3FB57593.9000803@swbell.net> Subject: Re: Re: Dressing Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:11:06 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rita Chapman" To: Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 6:38 PM Subject: Re: Dressing > Speaking of weight, my dad has gained back 3 pounds. I > don't know how much he lost through the radiation and > surgeries, but he was very, very thin and gaunt when I was > visiting over the summer. This is pretty good news. > > > > -- > Rita Rouvalis Chapman Wonderful. All his treatments finished? Do they give him an improved prognosis? = D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 19:33:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF1Xl6q001388 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:33:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 20F251E600DB; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:27:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E66011E600A4 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:27:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A47142@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:20:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 245318 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:20:44 -0500 Received: from fe3.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF1Kih12259 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:20:44 -0500 Received: from [151.199.21.97] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO bc.edu) by fe3.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP id 36039864 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:20:44 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB57F65.9070904@bc.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:20:37 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The White Dog References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031114131939.027f31d0@mail.istori.com> <3FB549A2.8070709@bc.edu> <3FB56512.C4F59D0F@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <3FB56512.C4F59D0F@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: >WAY COOL! I'm glad you got to see The White Dog -- sort >of. It had occurred to me one day not long ago that he would probably >be visible from that webcam from time to time since he hangs out in that >area at times. > > Yep, I just left the view active for a while. He passed there a couple of times. The last time, he just sort of lay down on the grass. As you view the site, there is a three-tined fork to the left of the monument. He took the topmost one and then just . Of course, the picture is minuscule but he looks like a right handsome dog. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 19:34:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF1Yk6q001429 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:34:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 64CCE1E600EF; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:28:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35CEE1E600A4 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:28:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A47158@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:21:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 245379 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:21:44 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF1Lih12401 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:21:44 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.169.188]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031115012138.OZEE6696.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:21:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB57FA4.75B03D2B@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:21:40 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: yikes References: <122.282a85eb.2ce6bcb4@aol.com> <5.1.1.5.2.20031114160216.00a5a6c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.1.5.2.20031114165628.00a5d580@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > I repeat. Have you tried ruby red grapefruit juice in the carton? Which carton? I've had ruby red grapefruit juice before. And, as I said, I don't totally gag on grapefruit juice now. I can get it down. But it's not something I would normally choose. One thing I do like is the orange-pineapple combo, though at least around here it always seems to be in the made-from-concentrate form, and that makes it have that sort of steely taste. I detest concentrated juices. Suddenly what is almost a non-sequitur but really isn't flitted into my head. Bonnie was talking about not knowing really rich people, and various were talking about relative happiness of rich and non-rich. What suddenly flitted into my head was about how one of my college roommates, who was rich, told me one time that she loved staying at my house because we always had freshly-squeezed orange juice for breakfast. It's true. My house offered that every morning of my life. It was something my mother just . My parents were into o.j. I think I've told before about the panic my parents experienced at some point during WWII when Daddy drove all over Jackson in search of oranges and couldn't find any. (He had extra ration stamps for driving because of his work, though I don't think his work involved finding o.j. for his babies.) Anyway, the pediatrician laughed when my parents called her with great concern about the o.j. problem and said that probably we would survive if we had tomato juice one morning. (But Daddy did find o.j. ultimately. We did not have to squeak by with t.j.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 19:39:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF1dO6q001473 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:39:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 54F751E600DB; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:33:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 246F11E600A4 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:33:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A47151@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:26:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 245466 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:26:22 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF1QLh12661 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:26:21 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAF1QL8b003138 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:26:21 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAF1QLfC021286 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:26:21 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:26:19 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Genealogy jackpot Message-ID: <234914171.1068841579@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <410-22003115144491725@earthlink.net> References: <410-22003115144491725@earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > And I now have DirecWay Satellite Internet service - and, as in your > situation, no trees had to be cut down! Any my own interest and > involvement in genealogical research is the primary reason I wanted > something other than slow dial-up. > > Doris S I know this requires a different kind of dish, and I'm now focused on chimney repairs, but let me know what you think of their service. I find it surprising they are hanging in there as a company. Last December they put out a memo they would dissolve within 3 months. I guess business got better. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 19:41:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF1fT6q001507 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:41:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7A0261E600DB; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:35:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 481581E600A4 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:35:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A47155@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:28:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 245510 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:28:26 -0500 Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF1SQh12820 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:28:26 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.ab.34caec97 (4539) for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:28:18 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:28:18 EST Subject: Re: I love my new email address To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/14/2003 3:51:26 PM, words-l@ATT.NET writes: >This is my new test email. > >alec > Came out perfect, congrats. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 19:44:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF1ik6q001580 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:44:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C921F1E600EF; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:38:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 974D21E600DB for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:38:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A47175@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:31:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 245552 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:31:37 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF1Vah13016 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:31:37 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAF1VZ9u026475 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:31:36 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FB5818D.9050105@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:29:49 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dressing References: <1c0.11b157b4.2ce6cf5e@aol.com> <3FB57593.9000803@swbell.net> <005f01c3ab15$597971e0$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rita Chapman" > To: > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 6:38 PM > Subject: Re: Dressing > > > >>Speaking of weight, my dad has gained back 3 pounds. I >>don't know how much he lost through the radiation and >>surgeries, but he was very, very thin and gaunt when I was >>visiting over the summer. This is pretty good news. >> >> >> >>-- >>Rita Rouvalis Chapman >> > > Wonderful. All his treatments finished? > Do they give him an improved prognosis? I'm told everything is good at this point. Of course, I've discovered through this experience that I'm rarely told anything resembling the truth. Whatever. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 19:48:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF1mO6q001613 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:48:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 20AFE1E602F6; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:42:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6E661E600EF for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:42:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4717D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:35:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 245641 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:35:21 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF1ZLh13222 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:35:21 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAF1ZF5Z004317 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:35:19 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:36:05 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <310134707.20031114193605@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: dreaming In-Reply-To: <3FB55F51.8F453F76@maynor.net> References: <200311141556.hAEFuFh09737@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FB55F51.8F453F76@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 14, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> The people I've known that were rich were no more or less happier than the >> people I've known who were dirt poor. > I think studies have shown that to be generally true (though exactly how > one tests happiness, I'm not sure). You ask people. > When you get down to dirt poor, I think the things I've read have > said that happiness does become less likely -- because of the > constant worry and scrambling just to survive. I wrote my sentence that you quoted quite deliberately, Natalie. The people I've met who were rich were not very happy. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 19:57:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF1vN6q001698 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:57:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7A3411E600DB; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:51:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A1871E600A4 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:51:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4718A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:44:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 245820 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:44:19 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF1iJh13834 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:44:19 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.169.188]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031115014414.YRQE11940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:44:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB584EF.8C951A17@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:44:15 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The White Dog References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031114131939.027f31d0@mail.istori.com> <3FB549A2.8070709@bc.edu> <3FB56512.C4F59D0F@maynor.net> <3FB57F65.9070904@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: > Yep, I just left the view active for a while. He passed there a couple > of times. The last time, he just sort of lay down on the grass. As you > view the site, there is a three-tined fork to the left of the > monument. He took the topmost one and then just . Of course, > the picture is minuscule but he looks like a right handsome dog. That webcam is kind of sucky. I think I might have mentioned before that the university has some really good webcams but that the university lawyer, who is known to be scared of his shadow, said that there might be legal problems in showing people who didn't want to be shown. So these webcams have for years done things like stare at Ra (not a bad thing to stare at really). Then some alum in IE donated this webcam that looks out from the IE building. Apparently the scared-of-his-shadow lawyer was too scared to tell an alum that that was . So there's this wimpy webcam looking at the drillfield now. Re the dog's reposing, I've noticed that he seems less frisky than he did before his traumatic experience of being captured and spending time at the shelter. That's worrisome. I assume, though I haven't really done a careful eyeballing of his equipment, that he was neutered while there since that is the current mode of operation (so to speak). When I adopted Spencer, it was a matter of signing an that I would have him neutered, which I did -- and supposedly then part of the $60 adoption fee would be refunded with presenting of the papers showing you'd done the deed -- though I of course did not do that -- why would I ask for money back from an organization I give money to? The current policy is that the dogs are neutered before they're adopted. Vets do it for cut rates (so to speak) for the shelter. The adoption fee is still $60, and the dog will already be neutered. So I assume that The White Dog (aka Casper) has had his balls messed with. Maybe that's why he seems more laid-back. Spencer did not seem to change at all after his ball-whacking, but then I had that done right away, so I didn't know him well before the deed was done. I'm not crazy about the ball removal, I might add. I do understand the point, but it somehow bothers me -- even though Spencer seems quite happy and does not seem to realize that his manhood has been mutilated. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 20:01:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF21Q6q001722 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:01:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3B7B51E600DB; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:55:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 063931E600A4 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:55:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A47175@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:48:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 245892 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:48:23 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF1mNh14091 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:48:23 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAF1m95Z013285 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:48:21 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:48:59 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <62204448.20031114194859@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: God and Caesar In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B777A2@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B777A2@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 14, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > It doesn't seem many men keep the name Dick but instead use Richard, Rick, > Rich - for obvious reasons. My uncle Dick was Dick until he died a couple of years ago. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 20:02:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF22Q6q001726 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:02:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AC28A1E600EF; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:56:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D9E11E600DF for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:56:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A47185@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:49:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 245912 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:49:23 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF1nNh14143 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:49:23 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAF1nDl6018075 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:49:13 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:50:12 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1049213753.20031114195012@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: God and Caesar In-Reply-To: References: <200311141928.hAEJS8h23344@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 14, 2003, nam gal sips clark wrote: > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >> It's been interesting to watch my brothers morph. They started life as Bob >> and Dick, named after my mother's twin brothers Bob and Dick (not to be >> confused with her twin sisters Maggie and Kay--my grandmother was >> incredibly efficient). Now they are Rich and Rob. > Bob became Rich and Dick became Rob? > Maybe you're mistaking one twin for the other. There's about 8 inches difference in their height, and one has straight hair and one has curly hair. So I think that's unlikely. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 20:03:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF23D6q001747 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:03:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 44C7E1E602F6; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:57:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16DE61E600DF for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:57:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A47177@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:50:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 245924 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:50:11 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF1oAh14190 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:50:10 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAF1nu5Z014485 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:50:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:50:44 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <683962846.20031114195044@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: God and Caesar In-Reply-To: <200311141939.hAEJd6h25726@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200311141939.hAEJd6h25726@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 14, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Having brothers names "Rob" and "Rich" requires me to query why your > sister's names are not "Give" and "Poor". Because there are 3 of them? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 20:09:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF2996q001875 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:09:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BDF7F1E600E4; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:00:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CBFB1E600DF for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:00:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A471A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:53:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 246129 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:53:24 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF1rOh14617 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:53:24 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.169.188]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031115015319.YUMQ11940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:53:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB58710.118B716B@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:53:20 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: dreaming References: <200311141556.hAEFuFh09737@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FB55F51.8F453F76@maynor.net> <310134707.20031114193605@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > On Friday, November 14, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Karen Kay wrote: > >> The people I've known that were rich were no more or less happier than the > >> people I've known who were dirt poor. > > > I think studies have shown that to be generally true (though exactly how > > one tests happiness, I'm not sure). > > You ask people. But how does that prove anything? How do we know how "happy" we are in comparison to other people -- which is what this kind of thing is about -- comparing happinesses of various groups. It's sort of like that question we've talked about before of how do we know what other people mean by "feeling bad" (as in physically). > > When you get down to dirt poor, I think the things I've read have > > said that happiness does become less likely -- because of the > > constant worry and scrambling just to survive. > > I wrote my sentence that you quoted quite deliberately, Natalie. The > people I've met who were rich were not very happy. I've known lots of very happy rich people. I have known almost no dirt-poor people in my life and thus have to rely on . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 20:11:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF2BA6q001889 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:11:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 416671E602F6; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:05:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FE561E600E4 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:05:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E4FD4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:58:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 246250 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:58:06 -0500 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF1w6h14925 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:58:06 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1c9.11d470d2 (4539) for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:57:57 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1c9.11d470d2.2ce6e225@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:57:57 EST Subject: Re: yikes To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/14/2003 5:59:38 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: > And there ain't no way in hell I'm >giving up my orange juice. You can take my morning coffee away, no big >deal, but I'll fight you tooth and nail for my morning orange juice. --------- Same for me.As a matter of fact, I drink it more often during the day when I get thirsty. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 20:12:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF2C96q001902 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:12:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BFB3A1E602F6; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:06:19 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C5481E600E4 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:06:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E4FDD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:59:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 246262 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:59:06 -0500 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF1x6h14965 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:59:06 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.12b.35023183 (4539) for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:58:55 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <12b.35023183.2ce6e25f@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:58:55 EST Subject: Re: middle-classed To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/14/2003 6:08:55 AM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >Money is one ingredient of social class in all the tools of measurement >I've ever seen -- and, being a sociolinguist, I've seen quite a few. > ----- This confirms my earlier observation that Americans are obsessed with money. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 20:12:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF2CK6q001906 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:12:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BAE901E602F6; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:06:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 841A41E600E4 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:06:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A471B4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:59:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 246275 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:59:17 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF1xHh14976 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:59:17 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAF1x7l6026270 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:59:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:00:06 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <506121022.20031114200006@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: dreaming In-Reply-To: <3FB58710.118B716B@maynor.net> References: <200311141556.hAEFuFh09737@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FB55F51.8F453F76@maynor.net> <310134707.20031114193605@WordWrite.com> <3FB58710.118B716B@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 14, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> On Friday, November 14, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> > Karen Kay wrote: >> >> The people I've known that were rich were no more or less happier than the >> >> people I've known who were dirt poor. >> >> > I think studies have shown that to be generally true (though exactly how >> > one tests happiness, I'm not sure). >> >> You ask people. > But how does that prove anything? How does anything prove anything? > How do we know how "happy" we are in > comparison to other people -- which is what this kind of thing is about > -- comparing happinesses of various groups. I am agog. Who ever compares how happy they are to other people???? > I've known lots of very happy rich people. I have known almost no > dirt-poor people in my life and thus have to rely on . I am one. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 20:13:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF2Dt6q001914 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:13:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3E90E1E600E4; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:08:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED3B1E600DC for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:08:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A471B9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:00:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 246321 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:00:52 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF20ph15096 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:00:51 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAF20fl6027509 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:00:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:01:41 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <529340727.20031114200141@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <12b.35023183.2ce6e25f@aol.com> References: <12b.35023183.2ce6e25f@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 14, 2003, Theo Groothof wrote: > In a message dated 11/14/2003 6:08:55 AM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >>Money is one ingredient of social class in all the tools of measurement >>I've ever seen -- and, being a sociolinguist, I've seen quite a few. >> > ----- > This confirms my earlier observation that Americans are obsessed with money. I think you are obsessed with Americans. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 20:16:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF2GE6q001942 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:16:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C6BA71E600E4; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:10:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98EED1E600DC for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:10:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A471BC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:03:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 246373 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:03:11 -0500 Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF23Bh15301 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:03:11 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.32.409c1830 (4539) for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:03:03 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <32.409c1830.2ce6e357@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:03:03 EST Subject: Re: yikes To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/14/2003 6:21:37 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >I also dislike its smell after 7 a.m. I find the smell of >coffee in mid-day or later much more repulsive than the smell of >cigarette smoke or even perfume. > I like the smell of coffee brewing better than it's taste. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 20:23:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF2NB6q002054 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:23:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 399401E600DC; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:17:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0AB81E600E2 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:17:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A471BC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:10:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 246679 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:10:07 -0500 Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF2A7h16340 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:10:07 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.15b.27a697e4 (4539) for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:09:55 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <15b.27a697e4.2ce6e4f2@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:09:54 EST Subject: Re: yikes To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/14/2003 7:10:36 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >It's good to hear you talk about enjoying something. ------ I enjoy doing lots of things, but you people never discuss THEM!:-( Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 20:23:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF2NP6q002057 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:23:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BD8351E600E4; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:17:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 870851E600DC for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:17:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E4FF2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:10:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 246683 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:10:22 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF2AMh16347 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:10:22 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-222.gwi.net [216.195.152.222]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAF2AKGn073097 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:10:21 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031114210959.02f62a10@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:10:32 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: dreaming In-Reply-To: <506121022.20031114200006@WordWrite.com> References: <3FB58710.118B716B@maynor.net> <200311141556.hAEFuFh09737@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FB55F51.8F453F76@maynor.net> <310134707.20031114193605@WordWrite.com> <3FB58710.118B716B@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I've known lots of very happy rich people. I have known almost no > > dirt-poor people in my life and thus have to rely on . > >I am one. --Karen And are you happy? bonnie, just asking From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 20:26:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF2QY6q002092 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:26:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 956FF1E600E4; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:20:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EB831E600E2 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:20:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A471D0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:13:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 246842 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:13:31 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF2DUh16640 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:13:31 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-222.gwi.net [216.195.152.222]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAF2DTGn073545 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:13:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031114211231.02f6e008@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:13:41 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: yikes In-Reply-To: <15b.27a697e4.2ce6e4f2@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >It's good to hear you talk about enjoying something. >------ >I enjoy doing lots of things, but you people never discuss THEM!:-( >Theo Well, tell us what they are. So far you've only told us what you don't enjoy: eating, watching TV, living in America. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 20:30:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF2U46q002109 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:30:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 86C201E600E2; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:24:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5317F1E600DC for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:24:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A471D4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:16:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 246892 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:16:56 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF2Gth16820 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:16:56 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAF2Gs9u028689 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:16:55 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FB58C2A.4010001@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:15:06 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <12b.35023183.2ce6e25f@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > In a message dated 11/14/2003 6:08:55 AM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: > > >>Money is one ingredient of social class in all the tools of measurement >>I've ever seen -- and, being a sociolinguist, I've seen quite a few. >> >> > ----- > This confirms my earlier observation that Americans are obsessed with money. > Theo Yup. And Europeans never think of the stuff. Ever read Balzac, Theo? -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 20:31:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF2Vt6q002135 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:31:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4B3CB1E600E4; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:26:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 192C21E600E2 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:26:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A471D6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:18:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 246920 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:18:52 -0500 Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF2Iph16922 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:18:51 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1e0.1378df99 (4539) for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:18:40 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1e0.1378df99.2ce6e700@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:18:40 EST Subject: Re: yikes To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/14/2003 7:22:06 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >(But Daddy did find o.j. ultimately. We did not have to >squeak by with t.j.) ----- That's funny considering we ate tulip bulbs (I've told this before) one year during W.W.II. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 20:36:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF2ad6q002206 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:36:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5C9231E600E5; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:30:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C5121E600E4 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:30:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A471FE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:23:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 247048 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:23:36 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF2NZh17221 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:23:35 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.169.188]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031115022330.YBWL13493.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:23:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB58E23.E33812D@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:23:31 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <12b.35023183.2ce6e25f@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > >Money is one ingredient of social class in all the tools of measurement > >I've ever seen -- and, being a sociolinguist, I've seen quite a few. > > > ----- > This confirms my earlier observation that Americans are obsessed with money. ?? Nothing in what I said above is country-specific. In fact, re sociolinguistics, I am having a problem trying to wrest myself away from some international stuff that I don't want to be involved with now that I'm retired but that I am in fact involved with. (Hey, Bethany -- what are your preferred dates for Methods in Moncton, NB? I told Marku in Finland that any of the proposed dates are fine with me. I didn't add that I care not a whit since I ain't doing that stuff anymore anyway -- even though I'm on the Steering Committee of this outfit.) But back to the direct point. The "tools of measurement" I mentioned above aren't limited to the US. They include many, many countries. Your assumption that I was talking about the US only strikes me as strange. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 20:45:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF2jE6q002273 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:45:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2E90F1E600E9; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:39:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 006411E600E8 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:39:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E500D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:32:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 247319 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:32:10 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF2WAh17823 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:32:10 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.169.188]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031115023205.YDVF13493.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:32:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB59026.5A4E9561@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:32:06 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: dreaming References: <200311141556.hAEFuFh09737@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FB55F51.8F453F76@maynor.net> <310134707.20031114193605@WordWrite.com> <3FB58710.118B716B@maynor.net> <506121022.20031114200006@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > >> > I think studies have shown that to be generally true (though exactly how > >> > one tests happiness, I'm not sure). > >> > >> You ask people. > > > But how does that prove anything? > > How does anything prove anything? ?? I don't get what you're saying. I said that I don't know how one tests happiness. You say you ask people. I ask how that proves anything. You ask how anything proves anything. Iow, where exactly are we? > > How do we know how "happy" we are in > > comparison to other people -- which is what this kind of thing is about > > -- comparing happinesses of various groups. > > I am agog. Who ever compares how happy they are to other people???? I am totally lost now. You said that rich people you knew were no happier than dirt-poor people you knew. So I don't understand your question above. Or is your point that you are doing the evaluating of how happy your rich and poor friends are? That's fine, but we return to the question of the ascertaining how happy groups are by asking them. > > I've known lots of very happy rich people. I have known almost no > > dirt-poor people in my life and thus have to rely on . > > I am one. Note my "almost" above. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 20:46:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF2kS6q002279 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:46:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 805551E600E8; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:40:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 521A31E600E5 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:40:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A47217@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:33:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 247350 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:33:16 -0500 Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF2XGh17920 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:33:16 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.156.27999189 (4539) for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:33:06 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <156.27999189.2ce6ea62@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:33:06 EST Subject: Re: dreaming To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/14/2003 7:53:34 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: > How do we know how "happy" we are in >comparison to other people -- which is what this kind of thing is about >-- comparing happinesses of various groups. ---------- I may have told this before, forgive me if I did. When I was released from the first hospital after my accident, I was told to see a shrink. because I was "depressed". When I told them that I wasn't, they said "but you've got every reason to be". After a few visits, the shrink agreed that I didn't need his help. Therefor, I concluded that happiness doesn't always depend on your circumstances; it really IS what's inside that counts! ;-) Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 20:47:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF2lL6q002297 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:47:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 63C061E600E5; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:41:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34E021E602F6 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:41:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4720C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:34:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 247382 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:34:18 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAF2YHh17973 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:34:17 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:34:12 PST Message-ID: <20031115023412.30057.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:34:12 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Dressing To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1c0.11b157b4.2ce6cf5e@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Theo Groothof wrote: > C'mon, tell me how you did it, PLEASE! Well, when I quit drinking alcohol, I discovered lots of foods tasted better when my taste buds were sober. I don't think that's your problem, though. I started eating lots of sweet foods, which I had not enjoyed much before. Sugar manufactures natural alcohol in the system, I have been told. Also, I have not quit smoking, but I diminished my filthy habit by two thirds. That also helped to resuscitate my sense of taste. I really do find that an interest in food, the history of theory of cooking are very helpful. Of course, I have not lost much of my eating innards, as you have. But in fewer than six months, I did lose half the colon, due to two surgeries. I can't really say what impact that has had, but boy, do I relish food now. Anyway, keep trying. It suddenly worked for me. Good luck. :-] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 20:50:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF2om6q002316 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:50:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F2FA11E600E5; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:44:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C13D81E600E3 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:44:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4722A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:37:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 247516 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:37:44 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF2bih18200 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:37:44 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.169.188]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031115023739.YFBY13493.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:37:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB59174.1D4F7A34@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:37:40 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: yikes References: <15b.27a697e4.2ce6e4f2@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > >It's good to hear you talk about enjoying something. > ------ > I enjoy doing lots of things, but you people never discuss THEM!:-( And you are not allowed to mention these things? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 20:59:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF2xT6q002380 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:59:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B8D671E600E5; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:53:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 895581E600E3 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:53:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A47254@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:46:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 247894 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:46:26 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF2kPh18877 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:46:25 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.169.188]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031115024620.YGYD13493.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:46:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB5937D.38D94298@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:46:21 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: yikes References: <1e0.1378df99.2ce6e700@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > That's funny considering we ate tulip bulbs (I've told this before) one year > during W.W.II. No, I don't think you've told us before about the tulip bulbs. You ate nothing but tulip bulbs for a whole year? Why are they not touted now as a nutritious food? (Or maybe they are -- are they?) I'm thinking about the Japanese subsisting on daikons during WWII and how daikons are indeed considered quite nutritious. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 21:00:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF30C6q002384 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:00:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5C6211E600E5; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:54:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E3731E600E3 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:54:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A47262@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:47:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 247911 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:47:09 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAF2l9h18939 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:47:09 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:47:03 PST Message-ID: <20031115024703.68249.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:47:03 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: The White Dog To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FB584EF.8C951A17@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: I do understand the point, but it > somehow bothers me -- even > though Spencer seems quite happy and does not seem > to realize that his > manhood has been mutilated. I wouldn't be surprised if Spencer is blissfully happier. Raging male hormones can be a real nuisance. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 21:01:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF31j6q002388 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:01:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CE9891E600E5; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:55:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 976111E600E3 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:55:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E506F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:48:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 248008 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:48:42 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF2mgh19116 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:48:42 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.169.188]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031115024836.YHKU13493.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:48:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB59406.8844B795@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:48:38 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: dreaming References: <156.27999189.2ce6ea62@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > I concluded that happiness doesn't always depend on your circumstances; it > really IS what's inside that counts! ;-) You are right. That is why you are such a happy person. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 21:05:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF35u6q002431 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:05:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7677D1E600E9; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:00:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 456141E600E5 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:00:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E5078@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:52:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 248084 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:52:52 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAF2qPh19392 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:52:25 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:52:20 PST Message-ID: <20031115025220.80863.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:52:20 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: yikes To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Natalie, you really MUST work on your priorities. > Give up morning > coffee??? Orange juice is probably not more than 400% better for you than coffee, which will gnaw insidiously at your innards, not to mention the effect on your nervous system. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 21:10:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF3A16q002489 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:10:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2A8961E600E5; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:04:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC7AA1E600E3 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:04:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A47274@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:56:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 248207 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:56:57 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAF2uvh19663 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:56:57 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:56:52 PST Message-ID: <20031115025652.36511.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:56:52 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: middle-classed To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <12b.35023183.2ce6e25f@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Theo Groothof wrote: > This confirms my earlier observation that Americans > are obsessed with money. Does this explain why half of the rest of the world is obsessed with getting to America to get their piece of the American dream of wealth? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 21:12:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF3CW6q002504 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:12:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 52A241E600E9; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:06:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E14F1E600E5 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:06:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A47272@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:59:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 248304 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:59:28 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAF2xSh19857 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:59:28 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:59:23 PST Message-ID: <20031115025923.48320.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:59:23 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: dreaming To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <506121022.20031114200006@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > I am one. You may be poor in material things at the moment, but that probably will not last. Were you happier when you were flush, or now that you're "poor"? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 21:14:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF3EN6q002570 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:14:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F25C71E600E6; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:08:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C230D1E600E5 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:08:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A47283@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:01:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 248436 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:01:16 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAF31Gh20071 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:01:16 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:01:11 PST Message-ID: <20031115030111.48991.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:01:11 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: yikes To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <32.409c1830.2ce6e357@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Theo Groothof wrote: > I like the smell of coffee brewing better than it's > taste. Most brewing coffee smells to me like ambrosia. I simply cannot stand the taste of it. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 21:16:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF3Gq6q002610 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:16:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C47891E600E6; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:11:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9511C1E600E5 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:11:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4729B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:03:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 248541 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:03:49 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAF33nh20268 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:03:49 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:03:44 PST Message-ID: <20031115030344.48106.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:03:44 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: yikes To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <15b.27a697e4.2ce6e4f2@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Theo Groothof wrote: > I enjoy doing lots of things, but you people never > discuss THEM!:-( Aw, c'mon, Theo. I'll bet we could enjoy talking about them. Or are they unmentionable? Tell us something you enjoy. Or tell me, anyway. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 21:20:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF3KB6q002641 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:20:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EEF671E600E6; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:14:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0CAE1E600E5 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:14:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A47294@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:07:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 248637 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:07:07 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF377h20500 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:07:07 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.169.188]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031115030702.WICD14203.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:07:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB59855.6DB1BE22@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:07:01 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Speaking of the Campus Newspaper Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hey, Bethany -- Do you know that UT is playing MSU tomorrow? I had not known until looking at The Reflector (student newspaper) today, which I don't always look at but picked up because somebody told me that The White Dog was in it again. I really do feel sorry for our football players. There's always a box thing in the sports part of The Reflector on Fridays that gives various staff people's guesses about who will win various games the next day -- all the SEC teams are included in that box. Usually if we're playing somebody we're likely to lose to there are still a few (out of eight or ten) people who will go on and say MSU. What's interesting this week is that MSU was totally left out of the box -- as in it was simply blipped out. There was a brief story on a later page saying that we're playing UT tomorrow, but being left out of the prediction box is funny/sad. I do plan on turning on the for a little while tomorrow since I have fond memories of the bowels of Neyland Stadium, having had my office there for the two years I was at UT and having heard the band practicing in the afternoons. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 21:20:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF3KB6q002643 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:20:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3DC761E600EC; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:14:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B4271E600E5 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:14:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A472A3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:07:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 248641 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:07:07 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAF377h20501 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:07:07 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:07:02 PST Message-ID: <20031115030702.83660.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:07:02 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: middle-classed To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FB58C2A.4010001@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Rita Chapman wrote: > Yup. And Europeans never think of the > stuff. > > Ever read Balzac, Theo? Whenever I hear someone mention Balzac, I think of Marian the Librarian:-] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 21:22:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF3Mi6q002659 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:22:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3D5F61E600EC; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:16:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07CF71E600E6 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:16:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4729F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:09:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 248723 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:09:40 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF39eh20609 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:09:40 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-222.gwi.net [216.195.152.222]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAF39aGr079601; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:09:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031114220133.00b60348@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:06:00 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <12b.35023183.2ce6e25f@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:58 PM 11/14/2003 -0500, Theo Groothof wrote: >This confirms my earlier observation that Americans are obsessed with money. Theo, that is just so much horseshit. Throughout the world, I daresay the Netherlands included, wealth or lack of it confers levels of class or hierarchy or whatever you choose to name it. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 21:22:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF3Mj6q002662 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:22:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7F4C71E600EC; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:16:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FF961E600E6 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:16:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A472AE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:09:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 248727 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:09:42 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF39gh20614 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:09:42 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-222.gwi.net [216.195.152.222]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAF39aGt079601; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:09:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031114220642.00b6aff0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:08:36 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Dressing In-Reply-To: <20031115023412.30057.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> References: <1c0.11b157b4.2ce6cf5e@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:34 PM 11/14/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > Sugar manufactures natural alcohol in >the system, I have been told. Rather, the opposite obtains. Through one or more digestive processes, sugars are reduced, i.e., broken down, to the less complex forms of alcohol. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 21:39:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF3d66q002872 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:39:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 65C851E600E6; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:33:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DF381E600E5 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:33:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A472C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:26:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 249063 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:26:03 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAF3Q2h21576 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:26:02 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:25:57 PST Message-ID: <20031115032557.43527.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:25:57 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: God and Caesar To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- nam gal sips clark wrote: > And anyway, wasn't Rock Hudson the name the studio > gave him? > > Watch the MST episode of "Space Mutiny" for a > primer of asinine MANLY NAMES. Dear Buck nam: Weren't most stage names of Rock's era studio-derived? Earlier names certainly were. Case in point: Joan Crawford's real name was Lucille LaSeur. The studio ran a contest to rename her, and "Joan Crawford" was the winner. And how preposterous are stage names when you think of the actor by his/her first name only, especially the early ones? Clark Gable Claudette Colbert Hedy Lamar Randolph Scott Tyrone Power Myrna Loy Greer Garson Tab Hunter Even, bless him, Cary Grant __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 21:41:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF3fR6q002898 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:41:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1E1481E600EC; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:35:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEA7D1E600E6 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:35:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A472C9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:28:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 249114 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:28:23 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAF3SNh21694 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:28:23 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:28:18 PST Message-ID: <20031115032818.225.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:28:18 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Dressing To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- nam gal sips clark wrote: > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > Last year I weighed 82 pounds. > > How tall are you? > > No kidding. > > I'd be afeerd to hug an 82-pound woman; > break her in half by mistake, y'could. I had been seriously ill and hardly regarded myself as physically existing. I weigh much more now, about 40 lbs. more. Hug me any ol' time, I'm wiry. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 21:45:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF3j56q002923 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:45:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 631C71E600E6; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:39:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E09711E600E5 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:39:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A472EA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:32:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 249296 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:32:01 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF3W1h22056 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:32:01 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAF3Vt5Z028928 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:32:00 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:32:45 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <715418655.20031114213245@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: dreaming In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031114210959.02f62a10@pop.gwi.net> References: <3FB58710.118B716B@maynor.net> <200311141556.hAEFuFh09737@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FB55F51.8F453F76@maynor.net> <310134707.20031114193605@WordWrite.com> <3FB58710.118B716B@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031114210959.02f62a10@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 14, 2003, bonniev wrote: >> > I've known lots of very happy rich people. I have known almost no >> > dirt-poor people in my life and thus have to rely on . >> >>I am one. --Karen > And are you happy? > bonnie, just asking Yes. I am happy. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 21:48:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF3mU6q002959 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:48:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 316C01E600E6; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:42:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2A1D1E600E5 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:42:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A47306@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:35:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 249425 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:35:26 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAF3ZQh22250 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:35:26 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:35:21 PST Message-ID: <20031115033521.57769.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:35:21 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: middle-classed To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031114220133.00b60348@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > Theo, that is just so much horseshit. Throughout > the world, I daresay the > Netherlands included, wealth or lack of it confers > levels of class or > hierarchy or whatever you choose to name it. This is kind of what I wanted to say, but knew you could express it better, Dr. V. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 21:49:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF3n26q002964 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:49:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DF4E91E600EC; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:43:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB7A21E600E6 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:43:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A472FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:35:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 249455 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:35:58 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF3Zwh22280 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:35:58 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAF3Zrv8011738 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:35:57 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:36:43 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1511632627.20031114213643@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: dreaming In-Reply-To: <3FB59026.5A4E9561@maynor.net> References: <200311141556.hAEFuFh09737@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FB55F51.8F453F76@maynor.net> <310134707.20031114193605@WordWrite.com> <3FB58710.118B716B@maynor.net> <506121022.20031114200006@WordWrite.com> <3FB59026.5A4E9561@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 14, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> >> > I think studies have shown that to be generally true (though exactly how >> >> > one tests happiness, I'm not sure). >> >> >> >> You ask people. >> >> > But how does that prove anything? >> >> How does anything prove anything? > ?? I don't get what you're saying. I said that I don't know how one > tests happiness. You say you ask people. I ask how that proves > anything. You ask how anything proves anything. Iow, where exactly are > we? Exactly! >> > How do we know how "happy" we are in >> > comparison to other people -- which is what this kind of thing is about >> > -- comparing happinesses of various groups. >> >> I am agog. Who ever compares how happy they are to other people???? > I am totally lost now. You said that rich people you knew were no > happier than dirt-poor people you knew. So I don't understand your > question above. Or is your point that you are doing the evaluating of > how happy your rich and poor friends are? That's fine, but we return to > the question of the ascertaining how happy groups are by asking them. If you ask rich people if they are happy, and you ask dirt poor people if they are happy, IME you'll get approximately the same results. This doesn't mean that rich people say "I am happier than poor people". It doesn't mean that I say that I am happier than you. There is no objective measure of happiness; it's all subjective. Karen poorer than dirt From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 21:50:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF3ok6q002969 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:50:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 233101E600E6; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:44:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3CC51E600E5 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:44:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4730F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:37:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 249502 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:37:34 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF3bYh22388 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:37:34 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAF3bO5Z002836; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:37:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:38:14 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1452417718.20031114213814@WordWrite.com> To: Natalie Maynor Cc: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re[2]: yikes In-Reply-To: <3FB5937D.38D94298@maynor.net> References: <1e0.1378df99.2ce6e700@aol.com> <3FB5937D.38D94298@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 14, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I'm thinking > about the Japanese subsisting on daikons during WWII and how daikons are > indeed considered quite nutritious. I know people who lived on cicadas and cockroaches. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 21:52:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF3qk6q002978 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:52:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C54941E60242; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:46:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931EB1E600E6 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:46:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A472F8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:39:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 249548 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:39:42 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAF3dgh22473 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:39:42 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:39:36 PST Message-ID: <20031115033936.79947.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:39:36 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Speaking of the Campus Newspaper To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FB59855.6DB1BE22@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: There > was a brief story on > a later page saying that we're playing UT tomorrow, > but being left out > of the prediction box is funny/sad. I always feel rotten when a team does this poorly. These things go in cycles, however. Just please, oh please, don't let the MSU AD hire Mike Price. Bama really picked a loser that time. Speaking as we were earlier of class, Mr.Price is sorely lacking in that area. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 21:54:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF3sT6q002981 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:54:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 82B2F1E600E6; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:48:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5117D1E600E5 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:48:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A47307@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:41:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 249662 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:41:26 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF3fPh22613 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:41:25 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAF3f75Z005741 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:41:23 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:41:58 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <834649630.20031114214158@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: dreaming In-Reply-To: <20031115025923.48320.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031115025923.48320.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 14, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Karen Kay wrote: >> I am one. > You may be poor in material things at the moment, but > that probably will not last. Maybe, maybe not. I can't count on it not continuing. > Were you happier when > you were flush, or now that you're "poor"? I have always been a happy person. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 21:55:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF3ta6q002989 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:55:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 311A81E600E6; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:49:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 039CC1E600E5 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:49:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A47325@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:42:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 249697 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:42:32 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAF3gWh22690 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:42:32 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:42:27 PST Message-ID: <20031115034227.1879.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:42:27 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Dressing To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FB55D66.8474676F@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > And I wonder what somebody who just arrived here > would think the > connection was between the subject header and the > current discussion. > Dressing to hide or exaggerate weight? > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I am quoting Crow when I say "heh, heh, heh". :-] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 21:57:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF3vc6q002997 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:57:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 537281E600E6; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:51:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19FBB1E600E5 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:51:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E51EF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:44:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 249780 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:44:34 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF3iXh22795 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:44:33 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAF3iTv8017530 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:44:33 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:45:19 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <19510596570.20031114214519@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <20031114164315.18543.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031114164315.18543.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 14, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > Crosses were burned in Scotland in > the centuries before mass communication and mass media > to arouse neighboring "clans" to the dangers of > encroaching enemies. Burning crosses could be seen > for miles around in the Highlands, and from tors in > the lowland/border marches. The citation given above > does not mention these origins. Why should it? Fire has been used in many cultures for signalling purposes, for a lot longer than it was in Scotland. Is there a direct lineage? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 21:59:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF3xC6q003009 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:59:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 24C301E60242; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:53:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA3B31E600E5 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:53:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A47319@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:46:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 249832 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:46:08 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAF3k8h22910 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:46:08 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:46:03 PST Message-ID: <20031115034603.9757.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:46:03 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: dreaming To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <834649630.20031114214158@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > I have always been a happy person. > > Karen I will not make any unwelcome trite comments. But it does seem to me there is something niggling at you aside from your financial condition, and I don't know you nearly as well as the other meebers do. Are you sure you're "okay"? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 22:01:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF4126q003016 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:01:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 636B21E600E6; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:55:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C8CC1E600E5 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:55:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E5219@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:47:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 249891 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:47:59 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF3lwh22998 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:47:58 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAF3ls5Z010542 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:47:58 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:48:45 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <892671512.20031114214845@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: dreaming In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031114111807.00bbb9c0@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031114111807.00bbb9c0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 14, 2003, bonniev wrote: >> >I find it sort of surprising too. But, then, like I always say, I really >> >don't know all that many people. >> >>Sorry, I don't believe that for a minute! --Karen > I don't know why you don't believe that. If I count as "people I know" > (right now in my face-to-face, everyday life) those people with whom I have > some meaningful contact at least once a month, I know about eight present > or former Inn-owners, an Internet Cafe owner, and a few neighbors. That's > it. From my former lives, I have regular, meaningful contact with > about six people. What does 'meaningful contact' entail? I think a dozen people is not a small number. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 22:05:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF45P6q003058 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:05:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8B85E1E600ED; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:59:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 593661E600E6 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:59:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A47351@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:52:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 250327 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:52:21 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAF3qLh23648 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:52:21 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:52:15 PST Message-ID: <20031115035215.83033.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:52:15 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Dressing To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031114220642.00b6aff0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > At 06:34 PM 11/14/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > > Sugar manufactures natural alcohol in > >the system, I have been told. > > Rather, the opposite obtains. Through one or more > digestive processes, > sugars are reduced, i.e., broken down, to the less > complex forms of alcohol. Figures. It was another alcoholic who told me that years ago, before I retired from the trade. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 22:07:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF4796q003074 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:07:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2DA381E600ED; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:01:19 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F257F1E600E6 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:01:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A47367@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:54:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 250499 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:54:05 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF3s5h23937 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:54:05 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAF3ro5Z014621 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:54:03 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:54:41 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1729337157.20031114215441@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: dreaming In-Reply-To: <20031115034603.9757.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031115034603.9757.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 14, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Karen Kay wrote: >> I have always been a happy person. >> >> Karen > I will not make any unwelcome trite comments. But it > does seem to me there is something niggling at you > aside from your financial condition, and I don't know > you nearly as well as the other meebers do. What do you think is niggling at me? > Are you sure you're "okay"? I don't know what "okay" means. What are you asking? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 22:10:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF4An6q003094 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:10:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BAD3B1E600ED; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:04:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8919D1E600E6 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:04:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4739E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:57:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 250779 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:57:45 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF3vjh24311 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:57:45 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAF3vfv8026197 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:57:44 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:58:32 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1137653250.20031114215832@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hooray, Bennie Day In-Reply-To: <200311141531.hAEFVBh04015@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200311141531.hAEFVBh04015@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 14, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Artemis (Mercy's ocecat) has recently started responding to a "come hither" > gesture I do this in Japanese with Burl for some reason, but she gets it. > as well as playing fetch, which she and all her father's progeny > do instinctively, from kittenhood. How do you know her father? She really is amazing looking. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 22:11:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF4Br6q003099 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:11:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8134E1E600ED; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:06:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 534211E600E6 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:06:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A47399@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:58:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 250967 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:58:49 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF3wnh24448 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:58:49 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAF3wcl6028945 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:58:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:59:35 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1531198228.20031114215935@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Dressing In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031114093335.00b985b8@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031114093335.00b985b8@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 14, 2003, bonniev wrote: >>If it's any consolation, putting it on is just as hard as losing it. :-} >>Theo > For some. I just read that there are actually people who lose 200 pounds > after a stomach stapling and then, even with that very much reduced stomach > size, manage to put all the weight back on by eating rich foods with high > caloric content, little by little, but constantly all day long. I think that's what 'set point' is all about. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 22:28:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF4SD6q003283 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:28:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 419471E600E6; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:22:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 070A61E600AD for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:22:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A475CE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:15:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 255298 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:15:09 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF4F9h27105 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:15:09 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAF4F5Hn009850 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:15:07 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000401c3ab2f$0f7a6d00$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <1c0.11b157b4.2ce6cf5e@aol.com> <3FB57593.9000803@swbell.net> <005f01c3ab15$597971e0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB5818D.9050105@swbell.net> Subject: Re: Re: Dressing Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:15:09 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Wonderful. All his treatments finished? > > Do they give him an improved prognosis? > > > I'm told everything is good at this point. Of course, I've > discovered through this experience that I'm rarely told > anything resembling the truth. Whatever. > -- > Rita Rouvalis Chapman Who doesn't tell you the truth? His doctors? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 22:50:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF4o06q003512 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:50:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7A5C31E600E6; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:44:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F9351E600AD for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:44:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E54AB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:36:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 255689 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:36:55 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF4Qth27869 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:26:55 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAF4Q6eN024554 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:26:07 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:26:52 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <3FB58E23.E33812D@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <12b.35023183.2ce6e25f@aol.com> <3FB58E23.E33812D@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I'm retired but that I am in fact involved with. (Hey, Bethany -- what >are your preferred dates for Methods in Moncton, NB? I told Marku in >Finland that any of the proposed dates are fine with me. I didn't add >that I care not a whit since I ain't doing that stuff anymore anyway -- >even though I'm on the Steering Committee of this outfit.) Moncton? Why is Methods going to NB? And I thought that you had given up conferences. What year? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 14 22:52:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF4q86q003540 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:52:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C070F1E600E6; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:46:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B9321E600AD for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:46:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A47613@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:39:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 255747 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:39:04 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF4T4h28026 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:29:04 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAF4SHeN024835 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:28:17 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:29:04 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of the Campus Newspaper In-Reply-To: <3FB59855.6DB1BE22@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FB59855.6DB1BE22@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Hey, Bethany -- Do you know that UT is playing MSU tomorrow? I had not Of COURSE! 12:30 p.m. EST. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 00:46:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF6kp6q004524 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 00:46:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A54021E600F4; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 00:40:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7796C1E600F3 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 00:40:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A478F4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 1:33:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 260979 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 01:33:46 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f100.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF6Xjh03734 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 01:33:46 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:33:40 -0800 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 06:33:39 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: dreaming Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 01:33:39 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Nov 2003 06:33:40.0123 (UTC) FILETIME=[68387EB0:01C3AB42] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Karen Kay >This doesn't mean that rich people say "I am happier than poor >people". It doesn't mean that I say that I am happier than you. There >is no objective measure of happiness; it's all subjective. Precisely. And if you can't measure it, it doesn't exist. Money, on the other hand, is extremely measurable, besides which it is the perfect metaphor for everything that matters. The only thing happiness has in common with money is that you can't take it with you. _________________________________________________________________ Concerned that messages may bounce because your Hotmail account is over limit? Get Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 01:08:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF7816q004699 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 01:08:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6FDF71E600F4; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 01:02:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40ABC1E6009F for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 01:02:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A478EC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 1:54:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 261201 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 01:54:56 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f32.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.32]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF6sth04555 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 01:54:55 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:54:50 -0800 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 06:54:48 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: middle-classed Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 01:54:48 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Nov 2003 06:54:50.0214 (UTC) FILETIME=[5D410060:01C3AB45] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Lynne Weber >The Klan had its rudimentary origins in Scotland, >where cross burning had a very valid and apolitical >purpose. Cis-side, the Klan was extremely active in >New Jersey and the border states during the late >1930's and 1940's. Stick with being trite. Try to avoid being stupid. The history of the Ku Klux Klan is well-documented; it certainly didn't have its origins, rudimentary or otherwise, in Scotland. The Klan has had three major iterations, one during reconstruction in the south, when it was essentially a terrorist organization focused on intimidating carpetbaggers and blacks, another during the teens and twenties (not the thirties and forties), by which time it had morphed into an organization organized on the lines of a masonic lodge and was comprised of middle class merchants, businessmen, and professionals, and had a strong nativist/temperance component (by the time the depression started, this iteration had faded as a political force in the midwest, where its strength in states like Indiana was great), and again the late fifties, early 60s, when it arose as a vitriolic reaction to the civil rights movement, and was largely centered in the bastions of southern racism. The more recent skinhead and neo-nazi movements, which are indeed well and aptly named, include various organizations that claim parts of the heritage of the earlier klans, but as an organization, it is much more fragmented now than during those earlier three iterations. If you have questions about the Klan, I'm sure your public library will have three or four books on the subject. _________________________________________________________________ Is your computer infected with a virus? Find out with a FREE computer virus scan from McAfee. Take the FreeScan now! http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 02:32:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAF8WX6q005356 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 02:32:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 217C21E60104; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 02:26:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E62731E60102 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 02:26:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A47A01@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 3:19:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 263716 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 03:19:27 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAF8JRh09930 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 03:19:27 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com[12.236.52.68]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <20031115081920012007b4bde>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:19:20 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031115000211.031fdfe8@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 00:18:36 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: source of arthur miller's all my sons In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen writes, >I finally got around to identifying the historical source for this play >which, as I recall, Peter asked about a few weeks ago. Thanks, Marty! I've posted it to: http://www.istori.com/truman-committee-wright-defects.pdf (227Kb) It's tantalizing, being about airplane engines at an Ohio factory, but I'm not sure it's the right story. The one I've seen refers tank parts: >According to the book "Conversations with Miller" (2002) by New York Times >theater critic Mel Gussow, Miller's mother-in-law told him about a girl in >Ohio who had turned her father in for selling defective tank parts to the >government. Do you have more that connects Miller and the Wright Aeronautical story? Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 04:38:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFAcp6q006696 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 04:38:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 517971E60137; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 04:32:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FD421E60117 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 04:32:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A47A3D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 5:25:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 264471 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 05:25:44 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFAPah14041 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 05:25:44 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hAFAPWkF028537 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:25:32 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hAFAPWJO028535 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:25:32 +0100 Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:25:32 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: dreaming Message-ID: <20031115102532.GA28504@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200311141518.hAEFIhh01408@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200311141518.hAEFIhh01408@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay: = On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:32:27 -0500, bonniev wrote: = >Last night I'd tried to think if I ever knew anyone who I would consider = >rich. I don't think I haveich to me would be a grand house, prep school, = >wide choice of colleges, yearly trips to warm or exotic places, maybe a = >servant or two including a nanny. = = Not even as an adult, you haven't known people like that? I find that sort = of surprising. = This is not rich. This is my brother in his mcmansion. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 06:28:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFCS36q007797 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 06:28:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5B0FF1E602F8; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 06:22:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 299251E60125 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 06:22:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A47AD9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 7:14:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 265554 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 07:14:55 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFCEsh20417 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 07:14:55 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hAFCErkF028639 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:14:53 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hAFCEqNq028637 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:14:52 +0100 Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:14:52 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed Message-ID: <20031115121452.GB28504@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <12b.35023183.2ce6e25f@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <12b.35023183.2ce6e25f@aol.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof: = In a message dated 11/14/2003 6:08:55 AM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: = = >Money is one ingredient of social class in all the tools of measurement = >I've ever seen -- and, being a sociolinguist, I've seen quite a few. = > = ----- = This confirms my earlier observation that Americans are obsessed with money. = Theo No, Americans are obsessed with consuming and you need money in order to consume. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 07:10:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFDA96q008168 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 07:10:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A95721E602FB; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 07:04:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AA791E602F8 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 07:04:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A47B0E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 7:57:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 265943 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 07:57:02 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFCl2h22563 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 07:47:02 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAFCkEeN030094 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 07:46:14 -0500 Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 07:47:01 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: yikes In-Reply-To: <20031115025220.80863.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031115025220.80863.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >> Natalie, you really MUST work on your priorities. >> Give up morning >> coffee??? > >Orange juice is probably not more than 400% better for >you than coffee, which will gnaw insidiously at your >innards, not to mention the effect on your nervous system. I enjoy having about 3 oz. of fresh oj in the morning. I don't want any more during the day. I think you would have to have lots and lots of coffee w/caff to get gnawing and effecting. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 07:40:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFDeM6q008403 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 07:40:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6A9421E602FB; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 07:34:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C5D11E602F8 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 07:34:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A47B85@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 8:27:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 267016 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:27:14 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFDHEh25208 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:17:14 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAFDGOeN002279 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:16:26 -0500 Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:17:11 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: bet, natalie? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I have an extra quarter here, Natalie - wanna bet on the game? TN is favored by - well, heck - for the second week in a row, I did not receive a Sports Section with my morning newspaper - never mind! Of course, I think I owe you a couple of drinks already - from Finland - Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 08:05:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFE5m6q008603 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:05:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A9BC91E60129; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 07:59:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 782F81E60121 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 07:59:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E5959@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 8:52:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 267580 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:52:17 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFDqGh27462 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:52:17 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.168.7]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031115135211.EFMH17368.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:52:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB62F8C.AEFCC325@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 07:52:12 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031114220133.00b60348@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > Theo, that is just so much horseshit. Throughout the world, I daresay the > Netherlands included, wealth or lack of it confers levels of class or > hierarchy or whatever you choose to name it. In my very limited experiences I've gotten the impression that many Spaniards are into possessions as status symbols. But my experiences are too limited to reach any conclusion. I'm sure that in any country different groups of people are into different things. If a foreigner spent a while visiting in my community (my group of friends), she'd go home with a different idea of what USAers were into than if she had visited with my RRB's crowd. And I don't mean to suggest there that money is the defining difference. The same could be said of two groups of similar financial circumstances. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 08:11:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFEBC6q008646 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:11:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B2A791E60121; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:05:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 809341E60129 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:05:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A47BB2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 8:58:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 267675 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:58:04 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFDw3h27798 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:58:03 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.168.7]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031115135758.EGUU17368.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:57:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB630E7.C021CE6A@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 07:57:59 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: dreaming References: <200311141556.hAEFuFh09737@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FB55F51.8F453F76@maynor.net> <310134707.20031114193605@WordWrite.com> <3FB58710.118B716B@maynor.net> <506121022.20031114200006@WordWrite.com> <3FB59026.5A4E9561@maynor.net> <1511632627.20031114213643@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > If you ask rich people if they are happy, and you ask dirt poor people > if they are happy, IME you'll get approximately the same results. Ok, that makes sense -- though these studies I've read results of have said that the truly poor aren't as happy. I can't remember the details of how they ascertained that, if in fact the details were even mentioned. I'm talking about things like magazine articles. > This doesn't mean that rich people say "I am happier than poor > people". It doesn't mean that I say that I am happier than you. There > is no objective measure of happiness; it's all subjective. That last part was my original point -- that I don't know how happiness can be determined/compared. But I do think there is an inherent comparison going on. It's not "I am happier than poor people" or whatever other category of people. It's a comparison of yourself with people in general. Since the concept of happiness is tied to being alive (not limited to people, of course -- Spencer has a huge smile on his face right now), judging your own level of it is tied to what you think it is in the general population. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 08:12:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFECj6q008651 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:12:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DC0691E60129; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:06:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEB571E60121 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:06:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A47BB4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 8:59:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 267692 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:59:37 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFDxbh27854 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:59:37 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-239.gwi.net [216.195.152.239]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAFDxZAr087757 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:59:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031115085732.00b2c638@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:59:48 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: dreaming In-Reply-To: <892671512.20031114214845@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031114111807.00bbb9c0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031114111807.00bbb9c0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I don't know why you don't believe that. If I count as "people I know" > > (right now in my face-to-face, everyday life) those people with whom I have > > some meaningful contact at least once a month, I know about eight present > > or former Inn-owners, an Internet Cafe owner, and a few neighbors. That's > > it. From my former lives, I have regular, meaningful contact with > > about six people. > >What does 'meaningful contact' entail? Something more than the pleasantries one exchanges with shop owners, for example. >I think a dozen people is not a small number. >Karen O.K. I think people who belong to a church or have a job (or are networking to get a job) have way more social contact, "know more", than a dozen people. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 08:15:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFEF16q008694 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:15:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A22E91E60140; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:09:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 702511E60121 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:09:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A47BC9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 9:01:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 267789 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:01:53 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFE1qh28032 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:01:52 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-239.gwi.net [216.195.152.239]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAFE1pAr088388 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:01:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031115090123.00b3d758@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:02:04 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Dressing In-Reply-To: <1531198228.20031114215935@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031114093335.00b985b8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031114093335.00b985b8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > For some. I just read that there are actually people who lose 200 pounds > > after a stomach stapling and then, even with that very much reduced stomach > > size, manage to put all the weight back on by eating rich foods with high > > caloric content, little by little, but constantly all day long. > >I think that's what 'set point' is all about. >Karen I don't think that's what set point is at all. What I have described above is compulsive eating. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 08:22:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFEML6q008793 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:22:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B22141E602FE; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:14:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 843C31E60140 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:14:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A47BD0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 9:07:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 267970 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:07:03 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFE72h28480 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:07:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.168.7]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031115140657.EJER17368.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:06:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB63302.F15252AC@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:06:58 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of the Campus Newspaper References: <20031115033936.79947.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > I always feel rotten when a team does this poorly. It really is a sad situation. We've had very bad seasons before, of course, but this is the first one I remember when it is pretty obvious that nobody wants to keep playing at all -- that the team and coaches, along with a few very faithful fans, are going through the motions of showing up at games because there are probably rules against simply not showing up (the players, that is -- I don't think there are rules for fans) but that everybody would be happier if we could simply forfeit. Speaking of fans, it's probably good in some ways that two of our three remaining games are away games (and the third no doubt will have at least as many Ole Miss fans as MSU fans even though it's here). I think it might be even more demoralizing for a team to be playing in an empty stadium than in one full of fans of the other team. I noticed when I turned on the tv late in last week's game, which was here, that the stadium looked empty except for cups and other debris. People are saying things like how at the beginning of games when the cheerleaders lead the team onto the field waving a flag that it should be a big white flag. That's true. > These things go in cycles, however. Just please, oh > please, don't let the MSU AD hire Mike Price. Bama > really picked a loser that time. Speaking as we were > earlier of class, Mr.Price is sorely lacking in that > area. Who is Mike Price? I haven't paid attention to the various names that have been mentioned as possibilities (except jokes like how Barbara Blackmon, she who lost the race for Lt. Gov, should be the next coach). Is Mike Price the coach Alabama hired and then quickly fired when he was shacked up in Florida with his girlfriend using university credit cards? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 08:24:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFEO86q008814 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:24:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BC7541E60140; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:18:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B0651E60121 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:18:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A47BCA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 9:11:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 268063 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:11:00 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFEAxh28779 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:11:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.168.7]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031115141054.EKEF17368.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:10:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB633EF.2F8D35FE@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:10:55 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <12b.35023183.2ce6e25f@aol.com> <3FB58E23.E33812D@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Moncton? Why is Methods going to NB? And I thought that you had given up > conferences. What year? It's going to be in NB because there's that little group of Moncton people who have been very active in Methods through the years, they want to host it, and it seemed a good time for it to hop back to this side of the pond. The year will be '05, I guess. I haven't been paying much attention to the correspondence of the steering committee except to chime in occasionally and say "sounds fine." Finland was '02, right? That makes '05 the next Methods year. You are correct that I have given up conferences. I have no intention of going. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 08:24:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFEOg6q008840 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:24:42 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F1CDE1E602FE; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:18:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A371E60140 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:18:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A47BE6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 9:11:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 268080 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:11:34 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFEBYh28829 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:11:34 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.168.7]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031115141128.EKHV17368.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:11:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB63412.DD3819D8@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:11:30 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of the Campus Newspaper References: <3FB59855.6DB1BE22@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >Hey, Bethany -- Do you know that UT is playing MSU tomorrow? I had not > > Of COURSE! 12:30 p.m. EST. Are you going? I can look for you on tv. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 08:28:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFESL6q008899 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:28:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1CD841E602FF; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:22:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAEE51E602FE for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:22:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A47BE2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 9:15:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 268162 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:15:13 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFEFDh29100 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:15:13 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.168.7]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031115141507.ELHJ17368.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:15:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB634ED.105B0097@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:15:09 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: bet, natalie? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > I have an extra quarter here, Natalie - wanna bet on the game? TN is > favored by - well, heck - for the second week in a row, I did not receive > a Sports Section with my morning newspaper - never mind! What's the biggest score difference that has ever occurred between two fb teams? I'm sure there must be records showing that. I think that's possibly what the score will be. All the makings are there. Not only is UT simply a better team, even if we had been doing respectably this season, but you throw in the fact that our team simply wants to endure the few hours and get on that plane home, and I think there will be quite a rout, even if UT uses this opportunity to exercise players who have never before left the bench. Ok, how about this? I'll take MSU and 100. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 08:57:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFEvb6q009179 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:57:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0DC161E60300; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:51:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D41B31E602FF for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:51:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E59DE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 9:44:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 268649 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:44:29 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFEiTh31108 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:44:29 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-159.gwi.net [216.195.152.159]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAFEiQGp023682; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:44:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031115093602.00b1d6c0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:37:32 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Speaking of the Campus Newspaper In-Reply-To: <20031115033936.79947.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> References: <3FB59855.6DB1BE22@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:39 PM 11/14/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > Just please, oh please, don't let the MSU AD hire Mike Price. Bama >really picked a loser that time. Speaking as we were >earlier of class, Mr.Price is sorely lacking in that >area. According to the papers and internet sports news outlets, Mr. Price is lobbying for the Arizona job. Probably more lap-dancing establishments out there. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 09:06:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFF6o6q009253 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:06:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2E1951E60301; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:00:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F39561E602FF for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:00:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E59EE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 9:53:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 268795 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:53:42 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFErgh31510 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:53:42 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAFErAVs014380 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 06:53:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FB63DAA.80501@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:52:26 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dressing References: <1c0.11b157b4.2ce6cf5e@aol.com> <3FB57593.9000803@swbell.net> <005f01c3ab15$597971e0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB5818D.9050105@swbell.net> <000401c3ab2f$0f7a6d00$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: >>>Wonderful. All his treatments finished? >>>Do they give him an improved prognosis? >>> >> >> I'm told everything is good at this point. Of course, I've >>discovered through this experience that I'm rarely told >>anything resembling the truth. Whatever. >>-- >>Rita Rouvalis Chapman >> > > Who doesn't tell you the truth? > His doctors? I don't know who is doctors are. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 09:14:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFFE86q009363 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:14:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7AE061E60300; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:08:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D43B1E60127 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:08:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A47C40@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:00:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 269010 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:00:59 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFF0xh32084 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:00:59 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAFF0ll6011888 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:00:48 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:01:51 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <9410492516.20031115090151@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: dreaming In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 15, 2003, Marty Rosen wrote: >>From: Karen Kay >>This doesn't mean that rich people say "I am happier than poor >>people". It doesn't mean that I say that I am happier than you. There >>is no objective measure of happiness; it's all subjective. > Precisely. And if you can't measure it, it doesn't exist. I didn't say you can't measure it. I said you can't measure it objectively. Someone asked me if I am happier now than before. I answered that I am a naturally happy person--this happens to be true. The difference is that my happiness of the last few years has been interspersed with periods of absolute depression and despair over my inability to support myself. I can recognize my periods of depression and despair as periods of low happiness, so I must be able to measure happiness in myself. > Money, on the other hand, is extremely measurable, besides which it > is the perfect metaphor for everything that matters. You sound like a Republican! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 09:15:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFFFS6q009384 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:15:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3EFB11E60301; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:09:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10CD01E60300 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:09:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A47C46@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:02:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 269063 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:02:19 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFF2Jh32220 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:02:19 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAFF2F5Z020122 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:02:18 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:03:08 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1235200613.20031115090308@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <20031115121452.GB28504@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <12b.35023183.2ce6e25f@aol.com> <20031115121452.GB28504@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 15, 2003, steph wrote: > Theo Groothof: > = In a message dated 11/14/2003 6:08:55 AM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: > = = >>Money is one ingredient of social class in all the tools of measurement = >>I've ever seen -- and, being a sociolinguist, I've seen quite a few. = >> > = ----- > = This confirms my earlier observation that Americans are obsessed with money. > = Theo > No, Americans are obsessed with consuming and you need money in > order to consume. Bingo. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 09:18:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFFIx6q009447 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:18:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1E7E41E60301; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:13:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4D031E60300 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:13:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A47C5D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:05:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 269268 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:05:51 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFF5ph32639 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:05:51 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAFF5cl6015124 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:05:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:06:43 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1585580291.20031115090643@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: dreaming In-Reply-To: <3FB630E7.C021CE6A@maynor.net> References: <200311141556.hAEFuFh09737@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FB55F51.8F453F76@maynor.net> <310134707.20031114193605@WordWrite.com> <3FB58710.118B716B@maynor.net> <506121022.20031114200006@WordWrite.com> <3FB59026.5A4E9561@maynor.net> <1511632627.20031114213643@WordWrite.com> <3FB630E7.C021CE6A@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 15, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Since the concept of happiness is tied to being > alive (not limited to people, of course -- Spencer has a huge smile on > his face right now), judging your own level of it is tied to what you > think it is in the general population. Are you insane? That's like saying "I must not be feeling sleep-deprived because the general population doesn't feel as conscious of being sleep-deprived as I do now, so what I feel isn't real." Jesus. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 09:20:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFFKl6q009461 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:20:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BA1811E60301; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:14:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 869FF1E60300 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:14:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A47C6E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:07:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 269309 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:07:39 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFF7ch00302 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:07:38 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAFF7T5Z023497 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:07:37 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:08:22 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <455466547.20031115090822@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: dreaming In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031115085732.00b2c638@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031114111807.00bbb9c0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031114111807.00bbb9c0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031115085732.00b2c638@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 15, 2003, bonniev wrote: >> > I don't know why you don't believe that. If I count as "people I know" >> > (right now in my face-to-face, everyday life) those people with whom I have >> > some meaningful contact at least once a month, I know about eight present >> > or former Inn-owners, an Internet Cafe owner, and a few neighbors. That's >> > it. From my former lives, I have regular, meaningful contact with >> > about six people. >> >>What does 'meaningful contact' entail? > Something more than the pleasantries one exchanges with shop owners, for > example. >>I think a dozen people is not a small number. >>Karen > O.K. I think people who belong to a church or have a job (or are > networking to get a job) have way more social contact, "know more", than a > dozen people. Maybe. I think most conversation is phatic, though. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 09:23:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFFN56q009472 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:23:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E95851E60300; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:17:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6FE11E60127 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:17:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E5A25@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:09:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 269374 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:09:57 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFF9vh00433 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:09:57 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAFF9nv8006562 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:09:54 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:10:43 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <831875278.20031115091043@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Dressing In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031115090123.00b3d758@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031114093335.00b985b8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031114093335.00b985b8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031115090123.00b3d758@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 15, 2003, bonniev wrote: >> > For some. I just read that there are actually people who lose 200 pounds >> > after a stomach stapling and then, even with that very much reduced stomach >> > size, manage to put all the weight back on by eating rich foods with high >> > caloric content, little by little, but constantly all day long. >> >>I think that's what 'set point' is all about. >>Karen > I don't think that's what set point is at all. What I have described above > is compulsive eating. Huh? My understanding of set point is that your body has an idea of what weight it wants you to be, and it keeps you at that. (Set points can, of course, be altered.) This may or may not involve compulsive eating. Compulsive eating is usually mass quantities, and not as conscious as choosing 'rich foods with high caloric content'. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 10:32:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFGWU6q010178 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:32:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E9FB31E60135; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:26:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC2D71E60132 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:26:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A47D26@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:19:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 271082 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:19:21 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFGJKh05426 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:19:20 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAFGJHHn000223 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:19:19 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000401c3ab94$38f51080$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <1c0.11b157b4.2ce6cf5e@aol.com> <3FB57593.9000803@swbell.net> <005f01c3ab15$597971e0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB5818D.9050105@swbell.net> <000401c3ab2f$0f7a6d00$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB63DAA.80501@swbell.net> Subject: Re: Re: Dressing Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:19:17 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Who doesn't tell you the truth? > > His doctors? > > I don't know who is doctors are. -- > Rita Rouvalis Chapman I see. If you wanted the true picture I suppose you could find out and then talk to the doctors. Apparently you are not in a really close relationship. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 10:38:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFGcP6q010244 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:38:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DB31B1E60136; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:32:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC79E1E60132 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:32:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A47D3A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:25:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 271275 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:25:16 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFGPFh05891 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:25:15 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAFGPDHn012388 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:25:14 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000901c3ab95$0cc63920$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: dreaming Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:25:14 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty: > Precisely. And if you can't measure it, it doesn't exist. Money, on the > other hand, is extremely measurable, besides which it is the perfect > metaphor for everything that matters. The only thing happiness has in > common with money is that you can't take it with you. > I think the jury may be out on that one, unless you can offer proof that we take nothing with us. Some people would suggest that what we take with us is our state of consciousness and this includes the lessons we learned on earth, the spiritual growth, and I would think our ability to be happy is in there somewhere. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 10:40:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFGeJ6q010274 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:40:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 163691E6014B; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:34:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D83921E60136 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:34:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A47D25@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:27:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 271320 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:27:10 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFGRAh06019 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:27:10 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-72.gwi.net [216.195.152.72]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAFGR8Ar009136 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:27:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031115112104.00b40450@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:27:22 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Dressing In-Reply-To: <831875278.20031115091043@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031115090123.00b3d758@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031114093335.00b985b8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031114093335.00b985b8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031115090123.00b3d758@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Huh? My understanding of set point is that your body has an idea of >what weight it wants you to be, and it keeps you at that. (Set points >can, of course, be altered.) This may or may not involve compulsive >eating. Compulsive eating is usually mass quantities, and not as >conscious as choosing 'rich foods with high caloric content'. >Karen Yes, it's possible that the body develops a preferred weight. When you lose ten pounds, it's very easy to put that weight back on because the body seems to want to go back to its former weight. Same thing with gaining a few pounds -- it's relatively easy to lose it if one does something about it within a week or so. However, when something extreme as a stomach stapling happens, I think set point theory no longer applies. It takes a determined effort on the part of a person with a teacup-sized stomach to gain weight. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 10:50:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFGow6q010385 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:50:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A47D4D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:37:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 271562 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:37:18 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFGbIh06655 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:37:18 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-72.gwi.net [216.195.152.72]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAFGbGAr010592 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:37:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031115113527.00b54290@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:37:30 -0500 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: bonniev Subject: question on folder options Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU US Airways sent an eticket confirmation in an attached file. When I click on it I get this message: "This file does not have a program associated with it for performing the action. Create an association in the Folder Options control panel." When I go to my computer's control panel and to the folder options, it is not at all clear what I am to do. Could someone please help??!! bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 10:54:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFGs96q010410 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:54:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2BF3E1E6014B; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:48:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F15171E60149 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:48:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A47D54@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:40:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 271635 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:40:59 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFGexh06868 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:40:59 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.168.7]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031115164054.DFUA13493.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:40:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB65717.BB1082B1@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:40:55 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: dreaming References: <200311141556.hAEFuFh09737@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FB55F51.8F453F76@maynor.net> <310134707.20031114193605@WordWrite.com> <3FB58710.118B716B@maynor.net> <506121022.20031114200006@WordWrite.com> <3FB59026.5A4E9561@maynor.net> <1511632627.20031114213643@WordWrite.com> <3FB630E7.C021CE6A@maynor.net> <1585580291.20031115090643@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > On Saturday, November 15, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Since the concept of happiness is tied to being > > alive (not limited to people, of course -- Spencer has a huge smile on > > his face right now), judging your own level of it is tied to what you > > think it is in the general population. > > Are you insane? Quite possibly, but I don't see that as relevant. > That's like saying "I must not be feeling > sleep-deprived because the general population doesn't feel as > conscious of being sleep-deprived as I do now, so what I feel isn't > real." Jesus. I don't see that as any way analagous. A body needs x amount of sleep to function well. Getting less than x = sleep deprivation. But you said feeling sleep-deprived, not necessarily being sleep-deprived. I guess that's different, though it seems kind of strange to me to feel sleep-deprived if you aren't. Meanwhile, I'm wondering what The White Dog thinks about weekends. I saw him snoozing on the grass across the street from the p.o. a little while ago. On weekdays there would be lots of people around, ditto on home fb weekends. But today there are few. I guess he's saying to himself, "Well, it's Saturday, and the game is away, so I might as well just lie here dreaming instead of following people around." And I guess he knows tomorrow will be the same. I worry about how he's going to spend Thanksgiving holidays. Maybe he will have been recaptured by then. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 10:55:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFGtN6q010451 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:55:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 881D51E6014B; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:49:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B821E60149 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:49:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A47D65@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:42:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 271686 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:42:14 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFGgEh06994 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:42:14 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.168.7]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031115164209.DGCD13493.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:42:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB65762.48DFEEB@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:42:10 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: dreaming References: <000901c3ab95$0cc63920$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > I think the jury may be out on that one, unless you > can offer proof that we take nothing with us. Some Good Deeds. That's who accompanies Everyman into the grave. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 10:59:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFGxL6q010529 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:59:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 103DF1E60151; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:53:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFE9C1E6014B for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:53:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A47D67@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:46:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 271814 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:46:12 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFGkCh07301 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:46:12 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-72.gwi.net [216.195.152.72]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAFGkAGn037043 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:46:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031115114548.00b4d0e0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:46:25 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: question on folder options In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031115113527.00b54290@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >US Airways sent an eticket confirmation in an attached file. When I click >on it I get this message: > >"This file does not have a program associated with it for performing the >action. Create an association in the Folder Options control panel. Never mind. I got around the attachment by printing out the receipt/itinerary from the USAirways web page. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 12:41:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFIfh6q011545 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:41:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BB3771E6030D; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:35:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 879001E6030C for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:35:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E5C44@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:28:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 274351 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:28:33 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFISXh13785 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:28:33 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAFISLl6019190 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:28:22 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:29:26 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1756514096.20031115122926@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Dressing In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031115112104.00b40450@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031115090123.00b3d758@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031114093335.00b985b8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031114093335.00b985b8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031115090123.00b3d758@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031115112104.00b40450@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 15, 2003, bonniev wrote: > Yes, it's possible that the body develops a preferred weight. When you > lose ten pounds, it's very easy to put that weight back on because the body > seems to want to go back to its former weight. Same thing with gaining a > few pounds -- it's relatively easy to lose it if one does something about > it within a week or so. > However, when something extreme as a stomach stapling happens, I think set > point theory no longer applies. Why? If it's hormones that govern set point, why should they suddenly stop working because of an operation. > It takes a determined effort on the part of a person with a > teacup-sized stomach to gain weight. I'd say it's more like biological imperative, i.e., set point. But, whatever. Blame the victim! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 12:43:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFIhB6q011552 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:43:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 13B631E6030D; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:37:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2EB41E6030C for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:37:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A47E92@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:30:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 274392 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:30:01 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFIU1h13890 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:30:01 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAFITnl6020224 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:29:49 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:30:53 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1151824724.20031115123053@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: dreaming In-Reply-To: <3FB65717.BB1082B1@maynor.net> References: <200311141556.hAEFuFh09737@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FB55F51.8F453F76@maynor.net> <310134707.20031114193605@WordWrite.com> <3FB58710.118B716B@maynor.net> <506121022.20031114200006@WordWrite.com> <3FB59026.5A4E9561@maynor.net> <1511632627.20031114213643@WordWrite.com> <3FB630E7.C021CE6A@maynor.net> <1585580291.20031115090643@WordWrite.com> <3FB65717.BB1082B1@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 15, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> >> On Saturday, November 15, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> > Since the concept of happiness is tied to being >> > alive (not limited to people, of course -- Spencer has a huge smile on >> > his face right now), judging your own level of it is tied to what you >> > think it is in the general population. >> >> Are you insane? > Quite possibly, but I don't see that as relevant. >> That's like saying "I must not be feeling >> sleep-deprived because the general population doesn't feel as >> conscious of being sleep-deprived as I do now, so what I feel isn't >> real." Jesus. > I don't see that as any way analagous. A body needs x amount of sleep > to function well. Getting less than x = sleep deprivation. But you > said feeling sleep-deprived, not necessarily being sleep-deprived. I > guess that's different, though it seems kind of strange to me to feel > sleep-deprived if you aren't. EXACTLY!! Who determines what you need? I claim that I do, not the 'general population', whoever they are. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 12:44:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFIic6q011563 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:44:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D48121E6030C; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:38:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5EFE1E6030A for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:38:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A47E7E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:31:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 274436 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:31:29 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFIVSh13990 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:31:28 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-72.gwi.net [216.195.152.72]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAFIVPAt024370; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:31:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031115133024.00b37430@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:31:18 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Dressing In-Reply-To: <1756514096.20031115122926@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031115112104.00b40450@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031115090123.00b3d758@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031114093335.00b985b8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031114093335.00b985b8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031115090123.00b3d758@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031115112104.00b40450@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:29 PM 11/15/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >I'd say it's more like biological imperative, homeostasis cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 12:53:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFIr06q011696 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:53:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6C9CE1E6030A; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:47:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F5B61E6013A for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:47:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A47EAD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:39:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 274642 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:39:50 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFIdoh14570 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:39:50 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAFIdcv8029493 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:39:48 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:40:33 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <136740873.20031115124033@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Dressing In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031115133024.00b37430@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031115112104.00b40450@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031115090123.00b3d758@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031114093335.00b985b8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031114093335.00b985b8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031115090123.00b3d758@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031115112104.00b40450@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031115133024.00b37430@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 15, 2003, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 12:29 PM 11/15/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >>I'd say it's more like biological imperative, to achieve > homeostasis > cwv Thank you, that's the word I was looking for. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 12:53:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFIrp6q011715 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:53:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C5DC21E6030C; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:47:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9762E1E6030A for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:47:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A47E94@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:40:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 274657 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:40:42 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFIefh14626 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:40:41 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.168.7]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031115184036.BIX20993.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:40:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB67325.B359FA30@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:40:37 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: dreaming References: <200311141556.hAEFuFh09737@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FB55F51.8F453F76@maynor.net> <310134707.20031114193605@WordWrite.com> <3FB58710.118B716B@maynor.net> <506121022.20031114200006@WordWrite.com> <3FB59026.5A4E9561@maynor.net> <1511632627.20031114213643@WordWrite.com> <3FB630E7.C021CE6A@maynor.net> <1585580291.20031115090643@WordWrite.com> <3FB65717.BB1082B1@maynor.net> <1151824724.20031115123053@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > I don't see that as any way analagous. A body needs x amount of sleep > > to function well. Getting less than x = sleep deprivation. But you > > said feeling sleep-deprived, not necessarily being sleep-deprived. I > > guess that's different, though it seems kind of strange to me to feel > > sleep-deprived if you aren't. > > EXACTLY!! Who determines what you need? I claim that I do, not the > 'general population', whoever they are. ? We're obviously on totally different wavelengths. I don't get your sleep-deprivation analogy at all. It seems in no way related to the topic of happiness. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 12:55:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFItm6q011730 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:55:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4BDEC1E6030C; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:49:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D3901E6030A for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:49:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A47EAF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:42:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 274762 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:42:38 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFIgch14853 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:42:38 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-72.gwi.net [216.195.152.72]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAFIgaAr025796 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:42:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031115133907.00b9f280@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:42:51 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Dressing In-Reply-To: <1756514096.20031115122926@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031115112104.00b40450@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031115090123.00b3d758@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031114093335.00b985b8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031114093335.00b985b8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031115090123.00b3d758@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031115112104.00b40450@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I'd say it's more like biological imperative, i.e., set point. But, >whatever. Blame the victim! --Karen As you've been fond of saying lately: "Are you insane?!" If one's hormones determine a set point on weight, then why try the Atkins diet? Why try stomach stapling? And why is it that one's set point is say 160 pounds at age 30 during October and then goes up to 180 after the holidays? Or goes up from 160 at age 25 to 300 at age 45? A biological imperative determined by ones hormones is nonsense. A body at rest tends to stay at rest. Yes. A body overweight tends to stay overweight. Sure. But successful measures can be taken to overcome such inertia. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 13:01:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFJ1f6q011796 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:01:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 097A71E6030F; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:55:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB8721E6030E for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:55:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A47EAE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:48:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 274892 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:48:31 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFImVh15241 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:48:31 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAFImJl6004997 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:48:19 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:49:24 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1997620751.20031115124924@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: dreaming In-Reply-To: <3FB67325.B359FA30@maynor.net> References: <200311141556.hAEFuFh09737@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FB55F51.8F453F76@maynor.net> <310134707.20031114193605@WordWrite.com> <3FB58710.118B716B@maynor.net> <506121022.20031114200006@WordWrite.com> <3FB59026.5A4E9561@maynor.net> <1511632627.20031114213643@WordWrite.com> <3FB630E7.C021CE6A@maynor.net> <1585580291.20031115090643@WordWrite.com> <3FB65717.BB1082B1@maynor.net> <1151824724.20031115123053@WordWrite.com> <3FB67325.B359FA30@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 15, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > ? We're obviously on totally different wavelengths. What a newsflash! > I don't get your sleep-deprivation analogy at all. It seems in no > way related to the topic of happiness. Sleep deprivation, happiness, and pain are all measured subjectively, rather than by any arbitrary standard of measurement. This means you can't compare them to other people's. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 13:08:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFJ8j6q011884 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:08:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 526041E6030E; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:02:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23E531E6030C for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:02:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A47EC7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:55:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 275015 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:55:35 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFItZh15684 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:55:35 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAFItMl6010317 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:55:24 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:56:27 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <666012533.20031115125627@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Dressing In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031115133907.00b9f280@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031115112104.00b40450@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031115090123.00b3d758@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031114093335.00b985b8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031114093335.00b985b8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031115090123.00b3d758@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031115112104.00b40450@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031115133907.00b9f280@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 15, 2003, bonniev wrote: >>I'd say it's more like biological imperative, i.e., set point. But, >>whatever. Blame the victim! --Karen > As you've been fond of saying lately: "Are you insane?!" Lately? I said it to Natalie, but I don't remember saying it another time recently. > If one's hormones determine a set point on weight, then why try the > Atkins diet? Why try stomach stapling? And why is it that one's set > point is say 160 pounds at age 30 during October and then goes up to > 180 after the holidays? Or goes up from 160 at age 25 to 300 at age > 45? Set points can change, Bonnie. They are not immutable. But they are easier to change for some people than others--that's why stomach-stapled people are driven to gain weight, and one of the reasons why anorexic people have trouble gaining weight. > A biological imperative determined by ones hormones is nonsense. A body at > rest tends to stay at rest. Yes. A body overweight tends to stay > overweight. Sure. No--the point is that a body tends to stay around the same weight, whatever it is. One reason it's recommended to lose weight slowly is that you can trick your body into not realizing the set point has changed. > But successful measures can be taken to overcome such inertia. Agreed. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 13:44:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFJiE6q012339 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:44:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 30E851E6030E; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:38:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 017E61E60306 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:38:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A47F2A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:31:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 275920 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:31:04 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFJV4h17998 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:31:04 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAFJUpv8003630 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:31:02 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:31:45 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1522384081.20031115133145@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Font help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I don't have Arial MT on my computer--is this a Mac font? Is there a PC equivalent? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 14:11:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFKBO6q012640 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:11:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2BE001E6030E; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:05:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E62151E6013F for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:05:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A47F75@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:58:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 276540 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:58:14 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAFJwEh19720 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:58:14 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:58:08 PST Message-ID: <20031115195808.58812.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:58:08 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: middle-classed To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Marty Rosen wrote: > >From: Lynne Weber > >The Klan had its rudimentary origins in Scotland, > >where cross burning had a very valid and apolitical > >purpose. Cis-side, the Klan was extremely active > in > >New Jersey and the border states during the late > >1930's and 1940's. > > Stick with being trite. Try to avoid being stupid. I am afraid stupidity is an integral part of my miserable id. It makes it convenient for you to practice tolerance, however. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 14:18:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFKIa6q012717 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:18:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D562D1E6030E; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:12:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6DFD1E6013F for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:12:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A47F98@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:05:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 276510 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:05:26 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFJtPh19573 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:55:25 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAFJsZeN002254 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:54:38 -0500 Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:55:22 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: bet, natalie? In-Reply-To: <3FB634ED.105B0097@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FB634ED.105B0097@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Ok, how about this? I'll take MSU and 100. Okay - I've got my quarter ready - just in case. The score is 42-7 right now. (No, I am not watching the game.) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 14:19:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFKJQ6q012730 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:19:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 66DD31E60310; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:13:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 387A21E6030E for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:13:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A47FA6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:06:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 276927 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:06:15 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAFK6Fh20244 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:06:15 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:06:09 PST Message-ID: <20031115200609.78713.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:06:09 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Speaking of the Campus Newspaper To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FB63302.F15252AC@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Is Mike Price the coach Alabama hired and then > quickly fired when he was > shacked up in Florida with his girlfriend using > university credit cards? Yes. Actually, Bama has had an abysmal record in selecting coaches of late. Gene Stallings, another ex-coach in T. Town, may not have been much of a coach, but as a man, he was a "class" act. Bear Bryant was, perhaps, the opposite. It is impossible to replace a legend, though. They've been trying for years, and with each passing year, the legend becomes more invincible. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 14:24:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFKOS6q012794 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:24:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CA8971E60311; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:18:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C5581E6030E for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:18:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A47FA7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:11:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 277077 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:11:18 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAFKBHh20578 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:11:17 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:11:12 PST Message-ID: <20031115201112.53529.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:11:12 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Dressing To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <000401c3ab94$38f51080$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > I see. If you wanted the true picture I > suppose you could find out and then > talk to the doctors. Apparently you are > not in a really close relationship. I have found doctors to be conmen who judge their patients and families to be blithering idiots. A few doctors I know to be compulsive liars. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 14:25:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFKP36q012798 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:25:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6533F1E60310; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:19:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 379DF1E6030E for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:19:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A47F9B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:11:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 276653 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:11:52 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFK1ph19986 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:01:51 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAFK13eN003184 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:01:04 -0500 Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:01:51 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <3FB633EF.2F8D35FE@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <12b.35023183.2ce6e25f@aol.com> <3FB58E23.E33812D@maynor.net> <3FB633EF.2F8D35FE@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: Natalie, you asked what dates I prefer for Methods in 2005. At the presnt, my plans are to be fully occupied from mid-June until approximately the end of the first week in August. All those dates are almost certainly out. So I will probably not be able to contemplate Methods that year. The one exception might be the 3-day 4th of July weekend - but even that is unlikely. I might also be occupied the first or second full week in June. Details in good time. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 14:26:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFKQO6q012847 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:26:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 90F191E60310; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:20:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E6451E6030E for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:20:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A47FBA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:13:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 277259 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:13:13 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAFKDDh20959 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:13:13 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:13:08 PST Message-ID: <20031115201308.98899.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:13:08 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Dressing To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031115112104.00b40450@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: > However, when something extreme as a stomach > stapling happens, I think set > point theory no longer applies. It takes a > determined effort on the part > of a person with a teacup-sized stomach to gain > weight. This is so logical that it has to be the truth. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 14:27:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFKRF6q012852 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:27:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C364A1E6030E; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:21:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CF6C1E6013F for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:21:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A47FC8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:14:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 277296 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:14:04 -0500 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.142.130]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFKE4h21048 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:14:04 -0500 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AL6o2-00071c-So for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:14:07 -0500 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031115120656.02fc6e68@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:13:18 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Font help In-Reply-To: <1522384081.20031115133145@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay writes, >I don't have Arial MT on my computer--is this a Mac font? Is there a >PC equivalent? Arial. I think they're the same face, but the Arial the Microsoft bundles is TrueType, and Arial MT is Type 1. Not that you need it, but here's explanations about the difference between TrueType and Type 1: , and a TrueType-to-Type 1 converter which I haven't tried: . Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 14:30:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFKUv6q012875 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:30:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 31D8A1E6030E; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:25:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04F181E6013F for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:25:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E5D9C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:17:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 276951 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:17:46 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFK7kh20351 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:07:46 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAFK6weN003934 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:06:58 -0500 Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:07:46 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Font help In-Reply-To: <1522384081.20031115133145@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <1522384081.20031115133145@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >I don't have Arial MT on my computer--is this a Mac font? Is there a >PC equivalent? I have Arial - but not Arial MT - on the Mac I am on right now. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 14:32:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFKWQ6q012882 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:32:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 00E5B1E6030E; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:26:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE6841E60311 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:26:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A47FD3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:19:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 277510 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:19:16 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFKJFh21361 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:19:15 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.168.7]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031115201910.IWWZ6276.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:19:10 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB68A3F.615F23EE@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:19:11 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: bet, natalie? References: <3FB634ED.105B0097@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >Ok, how about this? I'll take MSU and 100. > > Okay - I've got my quarter ready - just in case. The score is 42-7 right > now. (No, I am not watching the game.) It's a bet. What quarter was it when you wrote that? I turned it off early in the first quarter, having satisfied my desire to stare at Neyland Stadium. There's a chance I may lose this bet. Hmm. I just thought of something. If the final score is 107-7, do we tie? I guess so. I guess it has to be 108 for you to win or 106 for me to win. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 14:34:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFKYD6q012897 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:34:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CB4981E60311; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:28:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 989161E6030E for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:28:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A47FE2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:21:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 277540 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:21:03 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFKL2h21436 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:21:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.168.7]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031115202057.IXUJ6276.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:20:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB68AAA.D89C27C2@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:20:58 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <12b.35023183.2ce6e25f@aol.com> <3FB58E23.E33812D@maynor.net> <3FB633EF.2F8D35FE@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Natalie, you asked what dates I prefer for Methods in 2005. At the presnt, > my plans are to be fully occupied from mid-June until approximately the > end of the first week in August. All those dates are almost certainly out. Yes, I think it's going to be either the last week in July or the first week in August. The second week in August was briefly mentioned but then rejected. > So I will probably not be able to contemplate Methods that year. The one > exception might be the 3-day 4th of July weekend - but even that is > unlikely. I might also be occupied the first or second full week in June. It's never in June or early July, afaik. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 14:37:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFKbC6q012917 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:37:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 519871E60313; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:31:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C32D1E60312 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:31:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A47FDB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:24:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 277599 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:24:01 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f40.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFKO1h21598 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:24:01 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:23:55 -0800 Received: from 167.21.224.154 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:23:54 GMT X-Originating-IP: [167.21.224.154] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Espanillegal Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:23:54 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Nov 2003 20:23:55.0596 (UTC) FILETIME=[648E70C0:01C3ABB6] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hi Doris, imo every country has the right to defend, police its borders in any way its citizens see fit. My point here is that businesses who employ illegals and benefit from the situation are not scrutinized enoughand getting off easy. From personal experience I know that it's possible for businesses to check people's status before hiring - businesses that don't are taking the easy way out. They are as culpable as the illegals who break the laws and enter the country. Why not hold them responsible as well? PS did you catch Wanda Sykes' new one-hr stand-up special - Tongues Untied, I think it's called. She's great, lots of funny stuff. Hope you catch it. I think you'll enjoy it. . >You've left out one important component in the transaction - >employers and businesses who hire illegals. No, I didn't leave it out . . just didn't get to it . . but then, if we had strict laws and enforced them these employers could not override those laws. So someone is looking the other way. Right? Now we hear about Wal-Mart, but I think their numbers would be dwarfed by some of the other industries. I've told tales here before about how it's all handled in the packing houses . . a raid now and then and a few illegals transported . . in 2 weeks they are back and buy their green cards back from employees who held the cards for them. It is also a fallacy that immigrants fill only those jobs that Americans don't want to do. They are also taking some jobs that Americans do want to do. Until they are established, at least, most of them live in rental properties, yet they bring big families into our schools. The biggest adjustment in communities that have grown very rapidly because of this influx has to do with our taxes going up sharply as a result. We will adjust to it, but I do think we need to establish more distinct policies and enforce them, to be fair to both sides of a border. - D. M. _________________________________________________________________ Great deals on high-speed Internet access as low as $26.95. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 14:40:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFKeM6q012943 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:40:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B616F1E60311; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:34:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A9D1E6030E for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:34:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A47FDF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:27:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 277420 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:27:11 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFKHBh21259 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:17:11 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAFKGNeN005340 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:16:23 -0500 Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:17:10 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dressing In-Reply-To: <20031115201112.53529.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031115201112.53529.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >I have found doctors to be conmen who judge their >patients and families to be blithering idiots. A few >doctors I know to be compulsive liars. Doctors are conmen who judge their patients? Families are blithering idiots? No - "doctors who judge both patients and families of patients are conmen and blithering idiots"? ? The conmen I have known were pretty smart. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 14:40:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFKeb6q012968 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:40:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CFC2C1E60311; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:34:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1EEA1E6030E for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:34:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A47FE0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:27:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 277659 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:27:27 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAFKRQh21861 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:27:26 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:27:21 PST Message-ID: <20031115202721.56955.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:27:21 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: White Dog Caper To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU New details, though sketchy, have come to light regarding the role of the White Dog and his human conspirators. In addition to catching up on some much needed rest on holidays and away fb days, the White Dog employs student down-time to sneak into forms, etc. There he has been known to discover clues that inform his handlers as to which prospective adoptive families are the most affluent. This is all in the interests of the animal shelter, btw. Also, the White Dog now has a wider audience, which sweetens his commercial appeal. Rumor has it that the White Dog communicates with his handlers with paw prints, and in Tarascan, thus thwarting any attempts at decoding. This seems largely unnecessary, as no one is really onto their game, yet. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 14:41:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFKf06q012971 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:41:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 026361E60311; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:35:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8E1F1E6030E for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:35:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A47FE1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:27:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 277669 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:27:50 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFKRnh21881 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:27:50 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAFKRUv8013129 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:27:47 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:28:24 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <598083779.20031115142824@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Font help In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031115120656.02fc6e68@mail.istori.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031115120656.02fc6e68@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 15, 2003, Peter Kaminski wrote: > Karen Kay writes, >>I don't have Arial MT on my computer--is this a Mac font? Is there a >>PC equivalent? > Arial. > I think they're the same face, but the Arial the Microsoft bundles is > TrueType, and Arial MT is Type 1. > Not that you need it, but here's explanations about the difference between > TrueType and Type 1: , and a > TrueType-to-Type 1 converter which I haven't tried: > . > Pete Thanks! This may help... I got so engrossed in looking at font stuff instead of paying attention to my lunch that I started a fire! I need another smoke alarm--it's clear to me that I would be dead before that one went off. There is an AMAZING amount of smoke. (Putting the fire out was simple--I just covered the pan. But I don't know of a good way to get rid of masses of smoke. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 14:41:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFKfe6q012974 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:41:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CA8931E60311; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:35:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BE171E6030E for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:35:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A47FE2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:28:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 277675 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:28:30 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFKSTh21910 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:28:29 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAFKSP5Z002390 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:28:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:29:17 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1689429944.20031115142917@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Font help In-Reply-To: References: <1522384081.20031115133145@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 15, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >>I don't have Arial MT on my computer--is this a Mac font? Is there a >>PC equivalent? > I have Arial - but not Arial MT - on the Mac I am on right now. And I just realized that I have seen Arial MT on PCs, so it was a dumb question. Thanks for checking. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 14:43:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFKhX6q012984 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:43:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 223851E60147; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:37:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E88DA1E6030E for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:37:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E5D9C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:30:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 277692 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:30:22 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFKUMh22001 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:30:22 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAFKU45Z003473 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:30:19 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:30:57 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1327167581.20031115143057@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Espanillegal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 15, 2003, Rashmi Murthy wrote: > Hi Doris, imo every country has the right to defend, police its > borders in any way its citizens see fit. My point here is that > businesses who employ illegals and benefit from the situation > are not scrutinized enoughand getting off easy. From personal > experience I know that it's possible for businesses to check > people's status before hiring - businesses that don't are > taking the easy way out. They are as culpable as the illegals > who break the laws and enter the country. Why not hold > them responsible as well? I thought that was the whole point of the I-9, that businesses *are* fined heavily when they are caught. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 14:44:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFKig6q013010 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:44:42 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C386D1E60313; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:38:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B031E60312 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:38:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A47FF0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:31:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 277548 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:31:31 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFKLVh21455 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:21:31 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAFKKheN005868 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:20:43 -0500 Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:21:30 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: bet, natalie? In-Reply-To: <3FB68A3F.615F23EE@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FB634ED.105B0097@maynor.net> <3FB68A3F.615F23EE@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> Okay - I've got my quarter ready - just in case. The score is 42-7 right >> now. (No, I am not watching the game.) > >It's a bet. What quarter was it when you wrote that? I turned it off 3rd. I counted UT touchdowns earlier as I was driving around running errands - boombooms are set off after our touchdowns-or is it all our scores? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 14:54:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFKsh6q013123 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:54:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 654FD1E60313; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:48:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E84A1E6030E for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:48:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A48005@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:41:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 277712 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:41:28 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFKVSh22053 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:31:28 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAFKUeeN007202 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:30:40 -0500 Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:31:28 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <3FB68AAA.D89C27C2@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <12b.35023183.2ce6e25f@aol.com> <3FB58E23.E33812D@maynor.net> <3FB633EF.2F8D35FE@maynor.net> <3FB68AAA.D89C27C2@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Yes, I think it's going to be either the last week in July or the first >week in August. The second week in August was briefly mentioned but >then rejected. > >It's never in June or early July, afaik. So probably Methods is past history for me - it is quite unlikely that I will go in 2008, I think. I will surely be retired from UT by then and otherwise engaged. I went to many Methods conferences: 1972 (the first), 1975, 1978, 1981, 1990, 1996, 1999 - and in 2002 my paper was read by someone else. So I missed only 3 completely - 1984, 1987, 1993, I think. 1972-2002 - 30 years. Time to leave. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 15:02:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFL2P6q013254 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:02:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2B63D1E6030E; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:54:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E83D81E60143 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:54:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A48003@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:47:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 278023 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:47:14 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAFKlEh23005 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:47:14 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:47:08 PST Message-ID: <20031115204708.27644.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:47:08 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Dressing To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" > No - "doctors who judge both patients and families > of patients are > conmen and blithering idiots"? > > ? The conmen I have known were pretty smart. Conmen are not particularly notorious for their honesty nor for their concern for the well-being of their (the doctors'/conmen) victims. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 15:22:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFLMJ6q013503 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:22:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A9FB71E60313; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:16:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 741F41E6030E for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:16:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A48045@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:09:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 278657 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:09:08 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFL98h24495 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:09:08 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.168.7]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031115210903.YLMX6696.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:09:03 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB695F0.DD36BB53@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:09:04 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: bet, natalie? References: <3FB634ED.105B0097@maynor.net> <3FB68A3F.615F23EE@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >It's a bet. What quarter was it when you wrote that? I turned it off > > 3rd. I went in and turned on the tv a little while ago, thinking I would see the end and find out whether I won the bet, but I was too late -- an Auburn game was on. So I just went to the web and found the score: 59-21. You can hold the money until the occasion of buying me that drink you owe me. We can add that quarter to the tip. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 15:24:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFLOD6q013521 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:24:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6D46F1E6030E; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:18:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AB321E60145 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:18:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A48048@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:11:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 278698 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:11:02 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFLB2h24606 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:11:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.168.7]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031115211057.YMAN6696.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:10:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB69662.8F005DD4@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:10:58 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: White Dog Caper References: <20031115202721.56955.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Also, the White Dog now has a wider audience, which > sweetens his commercial appeal. Indeed. I should go to the webcam and see whether he's there now, being watched throughout the world. I bet he's not. He tends to hang out in that area of campus in mornings more than in afternoons. I've heard that he goes over to the Sanderson (the gym) in the afternoons. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 15:25:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFLPE6q013527 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:25:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 548E31E6030E; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:19:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2554E1E60145 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:19:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4803A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:12:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 278706 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:12:03 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFLC3h24658 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:12:03 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.168.7]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031115211158.YMJM6696.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:11:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB6969F.8839BA8D@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:11:59 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: White Dog Caper References: <20031115202721.56955.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU HE MAY BE THERE! I see some kind of white glob just left of the statue of Stephen D. Lee! http://www.ie.msstate.edu/netcam/netcam.htm -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 15:26:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFLQP6q013541 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:26:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1C67C1E6030E; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:20:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E36D21E60145 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:20:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4804A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:13:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 278726 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:13:14 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFLDEh24717 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:13:14 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.168.7]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031115211308.YMSU6696.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:13:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB696E6.D9510854@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:13:10 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: White Dog Caper References: <20031115202721.56955.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I think the white glob isn't the dog. It's totally still and isn't shaped right. I hate that the webcam is so wimpy. I can't figure out what that white glob is. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 15:30:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFLU16q013556 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:30:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C65931E60314; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:24:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 933B61E6030E for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:24:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4805B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:16:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 278782 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:16:51 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFLGoh24876 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:16:50 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.168.7]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031115211645.YNPR6696.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:16:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB697BE.6E333180@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:16:46 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: White Dog Caper References: <20031115202721.56955.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> <3FB696E6.D9510854@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > I think the white glob isn't the dog. It's totally still and isn't > shaped right. I hate that the webcam is so wimpy. I can't figure out > what that white glob is. But it may in fact be the dog. It's still still, but I've decided the shape could be right. Maybe he's resting. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 15:39:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFLdJ6q013678 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:39:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BF58E1E6030E; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:33:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E3ED1E60145 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:33:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A48053@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:26:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 278781 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:26:07 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFLG7h24868 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:16:07 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAFLFIeN014442 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:15:19 -0500 Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:16:05 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dressing In-Reply-To: <20031115204708.27644.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031115204708.27644.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >> ? The conmen I have known were pretty smart. > >Conmen are not particularly notorious for their >honesty nor for their concern for the well-being of >their (the doctors'/conmen) victims. No - but they have to be pretty smart to be conmen - to con other people. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 15:40:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFLee6q013695 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:40:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 04A171E60145; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:34:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA42A1E60143 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:34:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A48055@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:27:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 278813 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:27:29 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFLHTh24940 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:17:29 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAFLGfeN014652 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:16:41 -0500 Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:17:29 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: bet, natalie? In-Reply-To: <3FB695F0.DD36BB53@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FB634ED.105B0097@maynor.net> <3FB68A3F.615F23EE@maynor.net> <3FB695F0.DD36BB53@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >59-21. You can hold the money until the occasion of buying me that >drink you owe me. We can add that quarter to the tip. Okay. Two drinks and the start of a tip. I'll speak to Phil and Casey about this next week. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 15:48:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFLmI6q013750 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:48:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 853791E60145; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:42:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55E901E60143 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:42:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A48074@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:35:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 279168 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:35:07 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFLZ7h25978 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:35:07 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.168.7]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031115213502.CAMO20993.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:35:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB69C07.D4FAD4EB@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:35:03 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: bet, natalie? References: <3FB634ED.105B0097@maynor.net> <3FB68A3F.615F23EE@maynor.net> <3FB695F0.DD36BB53@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Okay. Two drinks and the start of a tip. I'll speak to Phil and Casey > about this next week. Who are Phil and Casey? Football players who made you lose this bet? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 16:09:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFM9g6q013977 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:09:42 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E62521E60314; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:03:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B46351E60145 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:03:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E5E50@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:56:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 279516 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:56:31 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFLuUh26935 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:56:30 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAFLuSk0004872 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:56:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FB6A0C2.5060701@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:55:14 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dressing References: <1c0.11b157b4.2ce6cf5e@aol.com> <3FB57593.9000803@swbell.net> <005f01c3ab15$597971e0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB5818D.9050105@swbell.net> <000401c3ab2f$0f7a6d00$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB63DAA.80501@swbell.net> <000401c3ab94$38f51080$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: >>>Who doesn't tell you the truth? >>>His doctors? >>> >> I don't know who is doctors are. >> > -- > >>Rita Rouvalis Chapman >> > > I see. If you wanted the true picture I > suppose you could find out and then > talk to the doctors. Apparently you are > not in a really close relationship. I could. But that would be a major breach of family etiquette. My dad and I are really quite close. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 16:21:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFMLo6q014095 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:21:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4CBCC1E60316; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:15:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19C591E60315 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:15:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E5EE8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:08:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 279599 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:08:39 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFLwch27074 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:58:38 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAFLvoeN022725 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:57:50 -0500 Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:58:38 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: bet, natalie? In-Reply-To: <3FB69C07.D4FAD4EB@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FB634ED.105B0097@maynor.net> <3FB68A3F.615F23EE@maynor.net> <3FB695F0.DD36BB53@maynor.net> <3FB69C07.D4FAD4EB@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> Okay. Two drinks and the start of a tip. I'll speak to Phil and Casey >> about this next week. > >Who are Phil and Casey? Football players who made you lose this bet? Come ON, Natalie - Phil Fulmer and Casey Claussen. Head coach and QB. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 16:59:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFMxb6q014562 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:59:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 696261E60319; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:53:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 361411E60318 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:53:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A48192@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:46:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 281784 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:46:25 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFMkPh31047 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:46:25 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAFMkMHn004972 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:46:23 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <009e01c3abca$4ad01440$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: Espanillegal Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:46:21 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Espanillegal > Hi Doris, imo every country has the right to defend, police its > borders in any way its citizens see fit. My point here is that > businesses who employ illegals and benefit from the situation > are not scrutinized enoughand getting off easy. From personal > experience I know that it's possible for businesses to check > people's status before hiring - businesses that don't are > taking the easy way out. They are as culpable as the illegals > who break the laws and enter the country. Why not hold > them responsible as well? Oh I would, absolutely. I think they are all getting by with , that is, in bending and breaking rules. I was amused that Wal-Mart was taken to task so heartily, at least in the press, when the packing houses have been actively wooing illegals for years. In this area they do pay them a decent wage, however, and follow standard working conditions, but they obviously look the other way at their legal status. They are challenged now and then and the INS (?) comes around and there's an ineffective raid . . but what they do to the company I don't know. Fines, perhaps? But the hiring continues, and the industry has billboards at the border directing immigrants to their work sites. > PS did you catch Wanda Sykes' new one-hr stand-up special > - Tongues Untied, I think it's called. She's great, lots of funny > stuff. Hope you catch it. I think you'll enjoy it. No! Is it on HBO, or is it rentable? I think she is brilliant. - D. M. > > . > > > > >You've left out one important component in the transaction - > >employers and businesses who hire illegals. > > No, I didn't leave it out . . just didn't get to it . . but then, > if we had strict laws and enforced them these employers > could not override those laws. So someone is looking > the other way. Right? > > Now we hear about Wal-Mart, but I think their numbers > would be dwarfed by some of the other industries. > I've told tales here before about how it's all handled in > the packing houses . . a raid now and then and a few > illegals transported . . in 2 weeks they are back and > buy their green cards back from employees who held > the cards for them. > > It is also a fallacy that immigrants fill only those jobs > that Americans don't want to do. They are also taking > some jobs that Americans do want to do. > > Until they are established, at least, most of them live > in rental properties, yet they bring big families into > our schools. The biggest adjustment in communities that > have grown very rapidly because of this influx has to do > with our taxes going up sharply as a result. > > We will adjust to it, but I do think we need to establish > more distinct policies and enforce them, to be fair to > both sides of a border. > > - D. M. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Great deals on high-speed Internet access as low as $26.95. > https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 17:01:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFN1c6q014604 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:01:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CF0731E60318; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:55:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A10B31E60150 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:55:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4817A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:48:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 281840 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:48:21 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFMmLh31251 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:48:21 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAFMmHHn008433 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:48:19 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <00a501c3abca$8f973220$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031115202721.56955.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: White Dog Caper Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:48:17 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > New details, though sketchy, have come to light > regarding the role of the White Dog and his human > conspirators. > > In addition to catching up on some much needed rest on > holidays and away fb days, the White Dog employs > student down-time to sneak into forms, etc. There he > has been known to discover clues that inform his > handlers as to which prospective adoptive families are > the most affluent. This is all in the interests of > the animal shelter, btw. > > Also, the White Dog now has a wider audience, which > sweetens his commercial appeal. > > Rumor has it that the White Dog communicates with his > handlers with paw prints, and in Tarascan, thus > thwarting any attempts at decoding. This seems > largely unnecessary, as no one is really onto their > game, yet. I have not the slightest idea what you guys are talking about involving a white dog. Not sure I want to know. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 17:08:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAFN896q014704 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:08:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C44201E60318; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:02:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9600A1E60150 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:02:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A48193@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:54:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 281973 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:54:57 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFMsvh31638 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:54:57 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAFMstHn020412 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:54:56 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <00d101c3abcb$7c7d40c0$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <1c0.11b157b4.2ce6cf5e@aol.com> <3FB57593.9000803@swbell.net> <005f01c3ab15$597971e0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB5818D.9050105@swbell.net> <000401c3ab2f$0f7a6d00$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB63DAA.80501@swbell.net> <000401c3ab94$38f51080$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB6A0C2.5060701@swbell.net> Subject: Re: Re: Dressing Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:54:54 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >> > > > > I see. If you wanted the true picture I > > suppose you could find out and then > > talk to the doctors. Apparently you are > > not in a really close relationship. > > > I could. But that would be a major breach of family > etiquette. My dad and I are really quite close. > Rita Rouvalis Chapman Ah . . so he withholds information to spare you, perhaps? Didn't mean to be so personal. Curiosity, you know. All families are different. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 20:33:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAG2X86q015002 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:33:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 36CBE1E6038C; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 19:53:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 085631E6038B for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 19:53:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A482CB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:46:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 285212 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:46:42 -0500 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAG1kfh08590 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:46:42 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.10d.2c851923 (18707) for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:46:35 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <10d.2c851923.2ce830fb@aol.com> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:46:35 EST Subject: Re: Dressing To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/15/2003 12:42:53 PM, bonniev@GWI.NET writes: >Sure. But successful measures can be taken to overcome such >inertia. --------- But what if you are immobile all day, and still don't gain weight? I know, "insanity", right? Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 20:33:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAG2X86q015007 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:33:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8255D1E60397; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 19:59:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 539041E60396 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 19:59:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A482DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:52:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 285394 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:52:35 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAG1qZh09044 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:52:35 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-72.gwi.net [216.195.152.72]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAG1qXGn091545 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:52:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031115205005.00b99ea8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:52:49 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Dressing In-Reply-To: <10d.2c851923.2ce830fb@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Sure. But successful measures can be taken to overcome such > >inertia. >--------- >But what if you are immobile all day, and still don't gain weight? >I know, "insanity", right? --Theo I think it's quite clear why you don't gain weight, Theo. You admittedly only eat once a day. You seem to think that you can only eat when you are hungry and still gain weight. You need to eat if you are hungry or not. You need to have a bowl of cereal around 10 and then a peanut butter sandwich at noon and then an apple and some almonds at 2:00 and then a decent meal with veggies and meat at 6. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 20:49:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAG2nj6q015279 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:49:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1895D1E6031A; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:25:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD8D61E60153 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:25:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A481FC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:18:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 282762 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:18:45 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFNIih00597 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:18:44 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAFNIgHn010078 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:18:43 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <00f501c3abce$cf0611c0$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031115201112.53529.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: Dressing Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:18:41 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > --- Doris Markland wrote: > > I see. If you wanted the true picture I > > suppose you could find out and then > > talk to the doctors. Apparently you are > > not in a really close relationship. > > > I have found doctors to be conmen who judge their > patients and families to be blithering idiots. A few > doctors I know to be compulsive liars. I have never known doctors who lied. I have in the past known doctors who talked down to me or didn't go into much detail (as if "you wouldn't understand it") But some years ago I think my own attitudes changed and my manner of talking to doctors may have changed . . . and their attitudes have also changed. I have found for years now that I can communicate with them well and my motive comes across to them that I want the truth and I also want them to listen to me and consider not only my wishes but in some cases the research I have done on my own. I have doctored at the Mayo Clinic, and so did my parents before me (because we lived not too far from there). Now that clinic is known for its almost brutal honesty and frankness. You do not leave there without knowing exactly what you came to learn. They deal with the family too and are most thorough and helpful. Doctors at Mayo's sat down and told me my father was dying, (this was after they tried several surgeries) and years later that my sister was dying. They withheld nothing. Then we talked about what must be done at that point. If there had been hope, they would have discussed what active treatment was available. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 20:49:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAG2nl6q015294 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:49:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 72DD01E60324; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:37:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FA2D1E60322 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:37:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4820C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:30:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 282936 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:30:13 -0500 Received: from razorbill.mail.pas.earthlink.net (razorbill.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.248]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFNUDh01158 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:30:13 -0500 Received: from dpc693545081.direcpc.com ([69.35.45.81] helo=earthlink.net) by razorbill.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AL9rn-00048X-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:30:13 -0800 Message-ID: <410-2200311615233015420@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: dormarbil@earthlink.net X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2003.2.92.0 (Windows) From: "Doris Smith" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Re: Genealogy jackpot Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:30:15 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-ELNK-Trace: 0f572b91323e03d8e9ef466adc09f07e7e972de0d01da94075d05c379c2944b26ca98af13483908a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU So far I'm pleased with the greater speed that I'm getting. It is not anywhere near as fast as cable (or the cable connection that my son-in-law had in Georgia, which is the only one I've experienced), but it is infinitely better than dial-up, considering that my usual connection speed was 26.4, with an occasional 28.8. Doris > I know this requires a different kind of dish, and I'm now focused on > chimney repairs, but let me know what you think of their service. I find > it surprising they are hanging in there as a company. Last December they > put out a memo they would dissolve within 3 months. I guess business got > better. > > Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 20:49:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAG2nr6q015339 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:49:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D9FB11E60385; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 19:46:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC3C61E60157 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 19:46:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A482C4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:39:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 285041 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:39:27 -0500 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAG1dRh08193 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:39:27 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1a8.1c4b62b1 (18707) for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:39:20 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1a8.1c4b62b1.2ce82f48@aol.com> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:39:20 EST Subject: Re: Dressing To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/15/2003 12:28:35 PM, Karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: >It takes a determined effort on the part of a person with a >> teacup-sized stomach to gain weight. ----------- You ain't kidding either.Those "set point" people are! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 20:55:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAG2tB6q015566 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:55:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2B18C1E6015F; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:49:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F08221E6015D for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:49:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E60F5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:41:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 286339 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:41:58 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAG2fvh11932 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:41:57 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:41:52 PST Message-ID: <20031116024152.17519.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:41:52 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Dressing To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <10d.2c851923.2ce830fb@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Theo Groothof wrote: > But what if you are immobile all day, and still > don't gain weight? > I know, "insanity", right? No. One of the things I did was make milk shakes with Carnation Instant Breakfast and vanilla or choc. ice cream. Add lipids, or fats, whenever you can, but, of course, if you are lactose intolerant, that's another thing. Use real cream or half and half in your coffee and on your cereal. Put butter on steamed or roasted veggies. Use sour cream on potatoes and in cake mixes. Eat lots of fresh veggies, put cream on sliced fruit, used whipped cream, etc. For me, it was just as difficult to gain weight as it was to lose. Every little bit helps. Since your mobility is limited, ask your doctor about strengthening and limbering exercises. Take your time eating, and do NOT skip meals. This is just friendly advice, with no special tricks. It's all common sense. And don't think about gaining weight all the time. Weigh yourself just once a week. THINK FAT, when you think about it at all. Take vitamins. Remember, others have gained, and you have will power. Let us know how it's going, or when you need a pep talk. Go, Theo! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 20:56:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAG2ua6q015609 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:56:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DCC441E60160; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:50:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADF8E1E6015D for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:50:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4834C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:43:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 286354 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:43:22 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAG2hMh12090 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:43:22 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:43:17 PST Message-ID: <20031116024317.56912.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:43:17 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Dressing To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031115205005.00b99ea8@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: > I think it's quite clear why you don't gain weight, > Theo. You admittedly > only eat once a day. You seem to think that you can > only eat when you are > hungry and still gain weight. You need to eat if > you are hungry or > not. You need to have a bowl of cereal around 10 > and then a peanut butter > sandwich at noon and then an apple and some almonds > at 2:00 and then a > decent meal with veggies and meat at 6. And follow this advice. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 20:58:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAG2w86q015627 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:58:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8D73B1E6015F; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:52:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ED251E6015C for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:52:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E6116@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:44:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 286386 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:44:55 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAG2ith12226 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:44:55 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:44:50 PST Message-ID: <20031116024450.17956.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:44:50 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: dreaming To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1729337157.20031114215441@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > > What do you think is niggling at me? > > > I don't know what "okay" means. What are you asking? If there were anything you wanted to talk about, you would. Sorry I intruded. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 21:06:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAG36R6q015732 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:06:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3F62E1E6032E; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:52:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CB6A1E6032A for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:52:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A48218@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:45:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 283213 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:45:37 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAFNjbh01983 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:45:37 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:45:31 PST Message-ID: <20031115234531.17320.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:45:31 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: White Dog Caper To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FB697BE.6E333180@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > But it may in fact be the dog. It's still still, > but I've decided the > shape could be right. Maybe he's resting. It is a sneaky cut-out of the White Dog, designed to fool the Webcam. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 21:06:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAG36S6q015734 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:06:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 35FC91E60334; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:56:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03DF71E60332 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:56:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4820F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:48:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 283269 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:48:49 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAFNmnh02145 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:48:49 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:48:43 PST Message-ID: <20031115234843.59037.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:48:43 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: White Dog Caper To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <00a501c3abca$8f973220$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > I have not the slightest idea what you guys > are talking about involving a white dog. Well, their plot is certainly working! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 21:06:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAG36T6q015745 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:06:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C004F1E60328; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:49:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91D651E60322 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:49:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A48203@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:41:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 283142 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:41:46 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAFNfkh01772 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:41:46 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:41:41 PST Message-ID: <20031115234141.1274.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:41:41 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: White Dog Caper To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FB69662.8F005DD4@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: I've heard > that he goes over to the Sanderson (the gym) in the > afternoons. Any undercover dog must maintain prime physical condition. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 21:14:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAG3Eb6q016113 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:14:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0B7CD1E60160; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:08:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCFA91E60154 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:08:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A48378@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:01:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 286754 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:01:23 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAG31Nh13366 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:01:23 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.168.7]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031116030118.IMRM13493.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:01:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB6E87F.8CB66AED@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:01:19 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: bet, natalie? References: <3FB634ED.105B0097@maynor.net> <3FB68A3F.615F23EE@maynor.net> <3FB695F0.DD36BB53@maynor.net> <3FB69C07.D4FAD4EB@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >Who are Phil and Casey? Football players who made you lose this bet? > > Come ON, Natalie - Phil Fulmer and Casey Claussen. Head coach and QB. And I should know their names? I realize that avid sports followers know names of all the coaches and players all over the place. Some of my lunch friends toss about names of such people, both college and pro. And some Wordslers can do that also -- which is why I know that when I mention Jackie Sherrill, there are Wordslers who know who he is. But I would not expect you to know who he is. (That sounds funny. I don't mean that I think you necessarily wouldn't. You may also be into knowing names of coaches and players all over the place. I just mean that I don't automatically expect that and therefore wouldn't expect any particular person to know.) I don't even know the names of our defensive and offensive coordinators this year, though I knew them last year. I do know the names of our head coaches in football, basketball, and baseball -- since they've all been here a pretty good while (with an interruption of several years in the case of baseball -- and I don't know who was the coach during that interruption). I'm trying to think whether I know the names of any coaches at any other schools. Yes -- Tommy Turbeville at Auburn. I know his name because there was a big to-do made about his moving from Ole Miss to Auburn a few years ago. Apparently he is hated all over Mississippi, even by MSU people, though it was our chief rival that he deserted. And there's a coach named Lou Holtz somewhere in the SEC. South Carolina? I don't know why exactly he's famous, but he seems to be. Like he was an old man brought there to save them several years ago, and he's done a good job? Something like that. I don't know the name of the Ole Miss coach, though it's something that reminds me of our linguist friend David Sutcliffe, with whom I've been corresponding quite a bit lately since he's into stuff involving stuff I did a while back and wants to talk about it. Another coach's name I know, basketball in this case, is Tubby Somebody. I've always noticed his name because there aren't many basketball coaches named Tubby. He's at Kentucky, right? And he doesn't look Tubby at all. I just remembered some other football coaches whose names I know -- father/son, both named Bowden, one at Florida or Florida State and the other somewhere else. Re players, the only non-MSU players of any sport that I can name are Eli Manning and the Milons person (Freddy?) at Alabama. Or did he (Milons) graduate (or run out of eligibility)? I know him because he's from Starkville and because his younger brother, Tee, chose us intead of Alabama -- and probably regrets that decision. Don't think I know any other players anywhere. (There is or was a basketball player who wore red shoes and played for some team we regularly played. Can't remember what team or who he was.) Iow, I am not a major follower of these matters. So don't take it as a personal insult to UT that I don't know the name of your coach or your quarterback. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 21:17:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAG3HQ6q016187 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:17:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 57F1A1E60162; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:11:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26FC01E60154 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:11:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E612B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:04:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 286805 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:04:13 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAG34Dh13555 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:04:13 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.168.7]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031116030407.INIX13493.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:04:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB6E929.6D41FF5E@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:04:09 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: White Dog Caper References: <20031115202721.56955.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> <00a501c3abca$8f973220$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > I have not the slightest idea what you guys > are talking about involving a white dog. Now that is major. It's one thing not to know the names of coaches and players, but it's quite another to admit ignorance of The White Dog! For your enlightenment: http://www.reflector-online.com/ He's the top story in yesterday's Reflector. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 21:21:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAG3LI6q016239 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:21:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 03A271E60160; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:15:19 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA94B1E60154 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:15:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4838A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:08:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 286842 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:08:04 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAG383h13754 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:08:03 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.168.7]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031116030758.IOHW13493.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:07:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB6EA0F.E6985EE2@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:07:59 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: White Dog Caper References: <20031115234531.17320.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > But it may in fact be the dog. It's still still, > > but I've decided the > > shape could be right. Maybe he's resting. > > It is a sneaky cut-out of the White Dog, designed to > fool the Webcam. I meant to look at it again later but got involved reading the memoir of my former colleague about why he left the priesthood and forgot. I'll try to remember to look tomorrow morning. If the white glob is still beside the statue, then I think it is safe to assume it wasn't The White Dog. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 22:03:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAG43l6q017036 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:03:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 269071E60166; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:57:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA3231E60164 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:57:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A483E6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:50:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 287688 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:50:34 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAG3oXh16153 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:50:33 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAG3oTHn011972 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:50:31 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000801c3abf4$c5ff03e0$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031115202721.56955.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> <00a501c3abca$8f973220$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB6E929.6D41FF5E@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: White Dog Caper Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:50:27 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Doris Markland wrote: > > > I have not the slightest idea what you guys > > are talking about involving a white dog. > > Now that is major. It's one thing not to know the names of coaches and > players, but it's quite another to admit ignorance of The White Dog! > > For your enlightenment: > > http://www.reflector-online.com/ > > He's the top story in yesterday's Reflector. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > Ah. Thank you. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 22:09:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAG49I6q017061 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:09:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 040CC1E60167; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:03:19 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4C2F1E60166 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:03:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E61CD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:56:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 288030 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:56:04 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAG3u4h16477 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:56:04 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.168.7]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031116035559.GMPY20993.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:55:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB6F54E.9BB54993@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:55:58 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: White Dog Caper References: <20031115202721.56955.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> <00a501c3abca$8f973220$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB6E929.6D41FF5E@maynor.net> <000801c3abf4$c5ff03e0$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > He's the top story in yesterday's Reflector. > > Ah. Thank you. Why do I fear that Doris does not have proper appreciation of the importance of this matter? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 22:13:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAG4D86q017142 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:13:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BEDA31E60161; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:07:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 702451E60150 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:07:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4842F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:59:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 288416 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:59:53 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAG3xrh16908 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:59:53 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAG3xfl6017431 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:59:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:00:48 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <503926437.20031115220048@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: dreaming In-Reply-To: <20031116024450.17956.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031116024450.17956.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 15, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Karen Kay wrote: >> >> What do you think is niggling at me? >> >> >> I don't know what "okay" means. What are you asking? > If there were anything you wanted to talk about, you > would. Sorry I intruded. I still don't understand what your questions meant, exactly. As far as I know, the only thing that's niggling at me is the very serious question of my continued survival. If there's anything else, you'd know better than I. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 22:31:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAG4Vb6q017486 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:31:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2A7C41E6032C; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:51:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0EFD1E6032A for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:51:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A48223@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:44:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 283188 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:44:04 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAFNi4h01896 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:44:04 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAFNi22f031512 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:44:02 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAFNi1JC031499; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:44:02 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031115154534.00a48680@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:46:06 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: White Dog Caper In-Reply-To: <20031115234141.1274.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> References: <3FB69662.8F005DD4@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:41 PM 11/15/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Natalie Maynor wrote: > I've heard > > that he goes over to the Sanderson (the gym) in the > > afternoons. > >Any undercover dog must maintain prime physical condition. It's dark now. I'm going to try to catch it tomorrow. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 22:39:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAG4dt6q017569 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:39:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ECE511E60167; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:33:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9B111E60153 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:33:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E6399@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:26:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 292237 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:26:41 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAG4Qfh19734 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:26:41 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAG4QcHn027905 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:26:39 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000c01c3abf9$d2ec1700$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031115202721.56955.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> <00a501c3abca$8f973220$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB6E929.6D41FF5E@maynor.net> <000801c3abf4$c5ff03e0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB6F54E.9BB54993@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: White Dog Caper Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:26:36 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Doris Markland wrote: > > > > He's the top story in yesterday's Reflector. > > > > Ah. Thank you. > > Why do I fear that Doris does not have proper appreciation of the > importance of this matter? > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Because you are very smart. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 22:42:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAG4gh6q017588 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:42:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CABEC1E60153; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:36:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FFC61E60008 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:36:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A48601@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:29:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 292314 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:29:29 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAG4TTh19953 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:29:29 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-119.gwi.net [216.195.151.119]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAG4TRGn003810 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:29:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031115232912.00baa2a8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:29:44 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: dreaming In-Reply-To: <503926437.20031115220048@WordWrite.com> References: <20031116024450.17956.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> <20031116024450.17956.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >As far as I know, the only thing that's niggling at me is the very >serious question of my continued survival. If there's anything else, >you'd know better than I. --Karen Do you still have a house and a car and a boat in the driveway? Do you still have a housemate? bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 22:55:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAG4tY6q017824 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:55:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 464FE1E60167; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:49:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 073001E60008 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:49:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A48631@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:42:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 292629 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:42:20 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAG4gJh20985 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:42:19 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAG4g55Z028822 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:42:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:43:02 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1932256997.20031115224302@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: dreaming In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031115232912.00baa2a8@pop.gwi.net> References: <20031116024450.17956.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> <20031116024450.17956.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031115232912.00baa2a8@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 15, 2003, bonniev wrote: >>As far as I know, the only thing that's niggling at me is the very >>serious question of my continued survival. If there's anything else, >>you'd know better than I. --Karen > Do you still have a house and a car and a boat in the driveway? Do you > still have a housemate? Yes, for now. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 23:06:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAG56w6q017942 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:06:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 97AC61E60168; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:00:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6860B1E60167 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:00:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A48634@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:53:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 292788 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:53:44 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAG4rih21477 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:53:44 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:53:39 PST Message-ID: <20031116045339.80229.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:53:39 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: White Dog Caper To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FB6F54E.9BB54993@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Ah. Thank you. > > Why do I fear that Doris does not have proper > appreciation of the > importance of this matter? She may feel that the world consists of more important matters than our society - Dogs R Us. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 23:23:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAG5Nw6q018090 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:23:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CF9CD1E6016C; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:17:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DCEC1E60167 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:17:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E645E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 0:10:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 293728 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:10:28 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAG5AEh22780 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:10:14 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:10:08 PST Message-ID: <20031116051008.13632.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:10:08 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: White Dog Caper To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <000c01c3abf9$d2ec1700$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > Because you are very smart. When the world seems topsy turvy, it's the trivial things that count. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 23:24:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAG5O16q018093 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:24:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A55FE1E6016F; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:18:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 759101E6016C for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:18:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E646B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 0:10:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 293793 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:10:43 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAG58Oh22603 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:08:24 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:08:18 PST Message-ID: <20031116050818.13854.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:08:18 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: dreaming To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <503926437.20031115220048@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > > As far as I know, the only thing that's niggling at > me is the very > serious question of my continued survival. If > there's anything else, > you'd know better than I. I think you are a natural-born survivor, and would put Rupert to shame. Still, it is a very serious question. You don't seem to be out on the streets, or starving, or unable to stay on line; but there is more to survival than just creature comforts; your tone, at times, seems a little too "down in the dumps" for a generally happy person. Guess I am reading too much into things, as usual. Just don't be down on yourself. As another meeber noted, you have far too much to offer for that :-] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 23:24:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAG5Op6q018099 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:24:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C9DC21E6016C; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:18:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 908EB1E60167 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:18:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A486AD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 0:11:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 293849 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:11:36 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAG5Bah23038 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:11:36 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:11:31 PST Message-ID: <20031116051131.17698.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:11:31 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: dreaming To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031115232912.00baa2a8@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: > Do you still have a house and a car and a boat in > the driveway? Do you > still have a housemate? Does Burl count? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 23:33:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAG5Xx6q018199 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:33:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 40A241E6016C; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:27:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BCD11E60167 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:27:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4875D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 0:20:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 295154 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:20:45 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAG5Kih24143 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:20:44 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAG5KWl6015924 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:20:33 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:21:40 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <286602841.20031115232140@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: dreaming In-Reply-To: <20031116050818.13854.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031116050818.13854.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 15, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > I think you are a natural-born survivor, and would put > Rupert to shame. I doubt it. I don't know how to spear fish. > Still, it is a very serious question. You don't seem > to be out on the streets, or starving, or unable to > stay on line; but there is more to survival than just > creature comforts; your tone, at times, seems a little > too "down in the dumps" for a generally happy person. > Guess I am reading too much into things, as usual. I am acting appropriately for my situation. Being a happy person doesn't mean that one is happy all the time. I've been un(der)employed for over two and a half years. If I were completely happy under these circumstances, I would be totally out of touch with reality. > Just don't be down on yourself. As another meeber > noted, you have far too much to offer for that :-] I'm not down on myself. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 23:35:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAG5Z86q018203 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:35:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3F0141E6016C; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:29:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF9151E60167 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:29:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4876B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 0:21:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 295166 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:21:54 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAG5Lrh24245 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:21:53 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAG5Lfl6016558 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:21:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:22:49 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <120348169.20031115232249@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: dreaming In-Reply-To: <20031116051131.17698.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031116051131.17698.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 15, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- bonniev wrote: >> Do you still have a house and a car and a boat in >> the driveway? Do you >> still have a housemate? > Does Burl count? As a housemate? No. She is a cat. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 23:37:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAG5bN6q018243 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:37:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 69EED1E6016F; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:31:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BECC1E6016C for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:31:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4876D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 0:24:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 295198 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:24:09 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAG5O9h24411 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:24:09 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:24:03 PST Message-ID: <20031116052403.59198.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:24:03 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: dreaming To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <120348169.20031115232249@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > > Does Burl count? > > As a housemate? No. She is a cat. Okay, then, does Burl count 1 - 10? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 15 23:38:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAG5cP6q018247 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:38:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 89BFF1E6016F; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:32:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C0291E6016C for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:32:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A48770@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 0:25:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 295233 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:25:11 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAG5PBh24509 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:25:11 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAG5P0v8007917 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:25:10 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:25:58 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1539191862.20031115232558@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: dreaming In-Reply-To: <20031116052403.59198.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031116052403.59198.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 15, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Karen Kay wrote: >> > Does Burl count? >> >> As a housemate? No. She is a cat. > Okay, then, does Burl count 1 - 10? Not that I know of. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 00:46:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAG6kB6q019181 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:46:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 33CB51E60179; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:40:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 020B71E60178 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:40:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A48824@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 1:32:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 296817 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 01:32:57 -0500 Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAG6Wuh28864 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 01:32:56 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.132.27530acd (25711) for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 01:32:45 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <132.27530acd.2ce8740d@aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 01:32:45 EST Subject: Re: Dressing To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/15/2003 8:43:30 PM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: >You need to have a bowl of cereal around 10 >> and then a peanut butter >> sandwich at noon and then an apple and some almonds >> at 2:00 and then a >> decent meal with veggies and meat at 6. > ------------- Oh my goddess, this sounds disgusting, except for the veggies with meat. I DO eat the fattening stuff like pudding with whipped cream, butter ALWAYS, and I NEVER weigh myself because I don't have the balance to do it. and holding on to something would be cheating, of course! I'm having breakfast bars, because I hate milk. I may have bacon and eggs if I feel like it, too. Lately I've been nibbling on the leftover Halloween candy (Milkyway bars) too :-) So you see that you misjudged my eating habits a bit by some..... Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 05:48:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGBmh6q022436 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 05:48:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8110D1E601BF; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 05:42:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EEFB1E601B8 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 05:42:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E67C3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 6:35:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 301649 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 06:35:26 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGBZPh18129 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 06:35:25 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.162.54]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031116113520.ESHX6696.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 06:35:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB760F9.728B790D@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 05:35:21 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: White Dog Caper References: <20031116051008.13632.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > --- Doris Markland wrote: > > Because you are very smart. > > When the world seems topsy turvy, it's the trivial > things that count. Trivial? TRIVIAL?? We're talking about The White Dog here! He may have been sent from heaven on a mission to help us. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 05:50:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGBoO6q022459 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 05:50:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BF99D1E601BF; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 05:44:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 920251E601B8 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 05:44:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E67D3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 6:37:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 301844 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 06:37:07 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGBb7h18312 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 06:37:07 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.162.54]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031116113702.ESND6696.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 06:37:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB7615E.4CCF8BC7@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 05:37:02 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: dreaming References: <20031116051131.17698.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> <120348169.20031115232249@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Does Burl count? > > As a housemate? No. She is a cat. Has Burl always been female? Why did I think she was male? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 06:02:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGC2U6q022610 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 06:02:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B1EAB1E601BA; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 05:56:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FF731E6018D for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 05:56:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E6801@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 6:49:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0115 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 06:49:13 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGBnCh19024 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 06:49:13 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.162.54]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031116114907.IDMR14203.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 06:49:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB76434.720EA52F@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 05:49:08 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Att: Bethany (re your coach) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I was just reading about your fb coach, Bethany. But I don't understand what this is talking about: **************** UT coach Phil Fulmer, who is set to replace Sherrill as the dean of SEC coaches next year, took issue with MSU's last touchdown with 28 seconds left and the ensuing onside kick. "He (Sherrill) should have just let it go," Fulmer said. "I had some folks (behind the UT sideline) who wanted me to throw the ball with 28 seconds left, but we were trying to get the game over. He won't be there next year, so I guess he doesn't have to worry about it." ***************** from: http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0311/16/wmsu01b.html Sherrill is our head coach. Do you have any idea what the "it" is that Fulmer thinks he should have let go? I can't figure it out from what's written above. (The paragraph before that mentioned that our backup quarterback made touchdowns on the last two plays of the game against UT's "reserves.") -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 08:17:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGEHJ6q023965 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:17:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DB61B1E6031B; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:11:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD1E11E601D1 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:11:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A48B92@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 9:04:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2179 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:04:01 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGDs1h25329 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:54:01 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAGDrBeN032306 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:53:12 -0500 Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:53:58 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: Bethany (re your coach) In-Reply-To: <3FB76434.720EA52F@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FB76434.720EA52F@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >**************** >UT coach Phil Fulmer, who is set to replace Sherrill as the dean of SEC >coaches next year, took issue with MSU's last touchdown with 28 seconds >left and the ensuing onside kick. > >"He (Sherrill) should have just let it go," Fulmer said. "I had some >folks (behind the UT sideline) who wanted me to throw the ball with 28 >seconds left, but we were trying to get the game over. He won't be there >next year, so I guess he doesn't have to worry about it." >***************** Probably "it" refers to Sherrill's risking injury to players well after the game's outcome was certain. It is a bit unusual for teams to attempt to score in such situations in the final few seconds of a game. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 08:35:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGEZm6q024223 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:35:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 497591E6031F; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:29:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 190C41E6031D for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:29:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A48BB0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 9:22:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2711 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:22:29 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGEMTh26946 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:22:29 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAGEMS9u011110 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:22:28 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FB787D9.6060901@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:21:13 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words-l Subject: Bethany: How to catch Maria Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU We've discovered a technique that works! Yesterday, Ana forgot to latch the stall door for the pony she rode, and he wandered out to the back pasture. I told Ana to go catch her pony, and Kelly thought she wouldn't be able to do that since this particular Pony is notorious and he didn't have his halter on. So, out of the barn rush 5 pre-adolescent girls, running and yelling "BJ! BJ! BJ!". That poor pony took one look at what was coming his way and gave up. It took them all 5 minutes to get that halter on since they couldn't figure out how it worked, and led him back to his stall. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 08:42:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGEgW6q024275 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:42:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D57B61E6031D; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:36:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3AB61E6031B for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:36:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A48BB5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 9:29:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2768 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:29:14 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGETDh27193 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:29:13 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAGETD9u013501 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:29:13 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FB7896E.1060300@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:27:58 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <20031115030702.83660.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Rita Chapman wrote: > >> Yup. And Europeans never think of the >>stuff. >> >> Ever read Balzac, Theo? >> > > Whenever I hear someone mention Balzac, I think of > Marian the Librarian:-] Balzac is wonderful, but heavy. I've been alternating _Pere Goriot_ and _The Number 1 Ladies Detective Agency_. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 08:42:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGEgY6q024278 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:42:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3062F1E6031D; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:36:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 027081E6031B for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:36:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A48B9B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 9:29:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2773 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:29:16 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGETGh27198 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:29:16 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAGET3v8010952 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:29:13 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:30:02 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <2210429951.20031116083002@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: dreaming In-Reply-To: <3FB7615E.4CCF8BC7@maynor.net> References: <20031116051131.17698.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> <120348169.20031115232249@WordWrite.com> <3FB7615E.4CCF8BC7@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 16, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Has Burl always been female? Yes. > Why did I think she was male? Don't know. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 08:43:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGEhc6q024283 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:43:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3C2E91E6031F; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:37:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DD411E6031D for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:37:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A48BAA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 9:30:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2789 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:30:20 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGEUKh27262 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:30:20 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAGEUJ2f008172 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 06:30:19 -0800 Received: from c35206-d ([24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAGEUHJC008156; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 06:30:18 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031116063044.00a7f690@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 06:32:25 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Bethany: How to catch Maria In-Reply-To: <3FB787D9.6060901@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:21 AM 11/16/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >We've discovered a technique that works! > >Yesterday, Ana forgot to latch the stall door for the pony >she rode, and he wandered out to the back pasture. I told >Ana to go catch her pony, and Kelly thought she wouldn't be >able to do that since this particular Pony is notorious and >he didn't have his halter on. > >So, out of the barn rush 5 pre-adolescent girls, running and >yelling "BJ! BJ! BJ!". That poor pony took one look at what >was coming his way and gave up. It took them all 5 minutes >to get that halter on since they couldn't figure out how it >worked, and led him back to his stall. I love this image. How often does Ana get to ride? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 08:49:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGEnL6q024402 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:49:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6DEF91E6031B; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:41:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 400081E6017F for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:41:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E692B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 9:33:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2910 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:33:45 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGEXjh27580 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:33:45 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.162.54]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031116143340.VMXH20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:33:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB78AC5.AA18E265@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:33:41 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: Bethany (re your coach) References: <3FB76434.720EA52F@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >"He (Sherrill) should have just let it go," Fulmer said. "I had some > >folks (behind the UT sideline) who wanted me to throw the ball with 28 > >seconds left, but we were trying to get the game over. He won't be there > >next year, so I guess he doesn't have to worry about it." > >***************** > > Probably "it" refers to Sherrill's risking injury to players well > after the game's outcome was certain. It is a bit unusual for teams > to attempt to score in such situations in the final few seconds of a > game. Maybe. Since I didn't see it, I don't know whether there was anything particularly risky going on. I gather that both teams were playing mainly their bench-warmers at that point. Seems to me that's good practice for them. Re doing things after the game's outcome was certain -- it was certain weeks ago. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 09:01:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGF1w6q024529 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:01:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 69AE61E6031D; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:55:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37AD61E6031B for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:55:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A48BD4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 9:48:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3267 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:48:40 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGEmdh28579 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:48:39 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-252.gwi.net [216.195.156.252]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAGEmZGp041139; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:48:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031116093302.00b1d9b0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:48:34 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Att: Bethany (re your coach) In-Reply-To: <3FB76434.720EA52F@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:49 AM 11/16/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >**************** >UT coach Phil Fulmer, who is set to replace Sherrill as the dean of SEC >coaches next year, took issue with MSU's last touchdown with 28 seconds >left and the ensuing onside kick. > >"He (Sherrill) should have just let it go," Fulmer said. "I had some >folks (behind the UT sideline) who wanted me to throw the ball with 28 >seconds left, but we were trying to get the game over. He won't be there >next year, so I guess he doesn't have to worry about it." >***************** >from: http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0311/16/wmsu01b.html > >Sherrill is our head coach. Do you have any idea what the "it" is that >Fulmer thinks he should have let go? What you read is another chapter is one of the longest continuous debates in college football. One line of reasoning is that you continue to play hard irrespective of the score or the amount of time left. The opposing view is that you shouldn't run the score up once you have a commanding lead, or if you are way, way behind, you should just play out the string. Proponents of the first thesis argue (with some justification) that once players start relaxing, make only token efforts, lose their concentration, that that is when injuries happen. Plus you are instilling or encouraging bad habits. Moreover, in a lopsided game, the later stages are the time to play the second and third-stringers to give them "game experience" and you certainly wouldn't then tell them not to try hard---after all, they are likely to be your first team next year. Those hewing to the second thesis bring out sportsmanship, i.e., the issue no longer is in doubt, so finish it up quickly, don't rub it in, etc. What makes such interchanges amusing is that any given coach has at one time or another taken both sides, depending on which side of the lopsided score they were on. Second (in this particular case), when did Fullmer decide that he had enough points---not until he surpassed 50? Would not 45 have been sufficient? So, what you have is two no-necked, fat-mouthed, jocks-turned-coaches, neither of which will ever inhabit anyone's pantheon of sterling intellects, engaging in nursery-school-recess colloquy. Happens every autumn weekend. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 09:47:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGFlY6q024994 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:47:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 658801E6031F; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:41:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 378691E60197 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:41:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A48C4B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 10:34:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4341 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:34:09 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAGFY9h31732 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:34:09 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 07:34:04 PST Message-ID: <20031116153404.87502.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 07:34:04 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Dressing To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <132.27530acd.2ce8740d@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Theo Groothof wrote: > So you see that you misjudged my eating habits a bit > by some..... > Theo You are quoting bonniev here, but her advice is excellent. I feel the most important thing is not to skip meals. Peanut butter is an excellent food, and if the sandwiches are too dry, try peanut butter and honey. It's really good! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 09:53:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGFrv6q025071 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:53:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 56BF11E60320; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:47:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 284851E601A7 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:47:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A48C6C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 10:40:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4518 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:40:38 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAGFech32166 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:40:38 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 07:40:33 PST Message-ID: <20031116154033.41978.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 07:40:33 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: White Dog Caper To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FB760F9.728B790D@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Lynne Weber wrote: > Trivial? TRIVIAL?? We're talking about The White > Dog here! He may > have been sent from heaven on a mission to help us. Yes, and the sooner everyone grasps the enormity of the White Dog concept, the better. Doris is an eminently rational individual who will come around in no time. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 09:55:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGFtv6q025081 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:55:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5B8741E601A7; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:49:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 295BF1E60197 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:49:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A48C6E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 10:42:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4539 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:42:38 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAGFgch32269 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:42:38 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 07:42:33 PST Message-ID: <20031116154233.17817.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 07:42:33 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: dreaming To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FB7615E.4CCF8BC7@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > Does Burl count? > > > > As a housemate? No. She is a cat. > > Has Burl always been female? Why did I think she > was male? In my short experience, I've always thought of Burl as female. Maybe she swapped genders in the middle of the stream. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 09:59:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGFxh6q025117 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:59:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 182791E601A7; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:53:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE5BB1E60197 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:53:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A48C6D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 10:46:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4668 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:46:24 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAGFkOh32541 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:46:24 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 07:46:19 PST Message-ID: <20031116154619.23828.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 07:46:19 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Att: Bethany (re your coach) To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >**************** > >UT coach Phil Fulmer, who is set to replace > Sherrill as the dean of SEC > >coaches next year, took issue with MSU's last > touchdown with 28 seconds > >left and the ensuing onside kick. > > > >"He (Sherrill) should have just let it go," Fulmer > said. "I had some > >folks (behind the UT sideline) who wanted me to > throw the ball with 28 > >seconds left, but we were trying to get the game > over. He won't be there > >next year, so I guess he doesn't have to worry > about it." > >***************** > > Probably "it" refers to Sherrill's risking injury to > players well > after the game's outcome was certain. It is a bit > unusual for teams > to attempt to score in such situations in the final > few seconds of a > game. > > Bethany Unless, of course, Coach Sherrill had a bet on the game (point spread). But you and Natalie would know nothing about gambling in this situation. :-] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 10:01:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGG1o6q025157 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:01:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A0E5F1E60322; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:55:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EAE41E60320 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:55:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A48C8A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 10:48:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4694 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:48:32 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAGFmWh32640 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:48:32 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 07:48:26 PST Message-ID: <20031116154826.24163.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 07:48:26 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: middle-classed To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FB7896E.1060300@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Rita Chapman wrote: > > Balzac is wonderful, but heavy. I've been > alternating _Pere > Goriot_ and _The Number 1 Ladies Detective Agency_. That is pretty much covering several bases. More power to you! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 10:06:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGG6a6q025217 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:06:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ADB101E60322; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:00:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ACDA1E60320 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:00:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A48C96@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 10:53:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4796 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:53:17 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAGFrHh00380 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:53:17 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 07:53:11 PST Message-ID: <20031116155311.25272.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 07:53:11 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Att: Bethany (re your coach) To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031116093302.00b1d9b0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > Happens every autumn weekend. Dr. V., you should have your own "colyum" dealing with sports and psychology, although you may consider them mutually exclusive. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 10:17:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGGHK6q025368 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:17:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3A52E1E60322; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:11:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C7C61E601AD for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:11:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E6A05@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 11:04:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5143 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:04:01 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGG41h01234 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:04:01 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-252.gwi.net [216.195.156.252]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAGG3wGp049130; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:04:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031116110001.00b47a08@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:03:59 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Att: Bethany (re your coach) In-Reply-To: <20031116155311.25272.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031116093302.00b1d9b0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:53 AM 11/16/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > > Happens every autumn weekend. > > >Dr. V., you should have your own "colyum" dealing with >sports and psychology, although you may consider them >mutually exclusive. It's one thing to write for enjoyment; it's quite another to write for deadlines/assignments. I'm finding that out again. Anyhow, I really enjoy sports---but I refuse to consider them as instruments of the national will or the highest expression of the excellence of my alma mater. They are games. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 10:39:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGGd16q025582 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:39:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3EEA31E6019F; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:32:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0641B1E601A7 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:32:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A48CF6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 11:25:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5762 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:25:42 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGGPgh02621 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:25:42 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAGGPSl6008281 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:25:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:26:40 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1392683778.20031116102640@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Att: Bethany (re your coach) In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031116110001.00b47a08@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031116093302.00b1d9b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031116110001.00b47a08@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 16, 2003, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > It's one thing to write for enjoyment; it's quite another to write for > deadlines/assignments. I'm finding that out again. I've been thinking about posting about two books I'm reading. The first of these is "The Writing Trade: A Year In the Life" by John Jerome. He talks all about this very issue almost ad nauseam, but despite that, I'm enjoying the book a lot. One of the things he writes about is Hopkins's Bioclimatic Law. You may know about it, but I didn't, so I'll quote part of that section: "According to Hopkins, spring approaches from the south, and fall comes down from the north, at the rate of four days per degree of latitude. A degree of latitude is sixty-nine miles, so spring and fall approach at seventeen and a quarter miles per day. Also, the seasons don't just march up and down the globe: they march up and down mountainsides, too. A degree of latitude is equivalent to a hundred and twenty-two meters of altitude, and vice versa. Hopkins's law thus draws a kind of X-Y axis in space; where the lines of altitude and latitude intersects is the true, as opposed to the calendar, season. These numbers are sometimes rounded off to an annual fifteen miles or one hundred feet of altitude per day, but this can be misleading. Change is more gradual in winter and summer. That's why Jones used the word "steeper" when he compared spring and fall to the rest of the year." I think this is cool. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 10:46:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGGk46q025663 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:46:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 172651E601D4; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:40:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D91471E601A7 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:39:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A48CF8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 11:32:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5933 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:32:45 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGGWjh03148 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:32:45 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAGGWhxu027287 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:32:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FB7A661.50006@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:31:29 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <20031116154826.24163.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Rita Chapman wrote: > >> Balzac is wonderful, but heavy. I've been >>alternating _Pere >>Goriot_ and _The Number 1 Ladies Detective Agency_. >> > > That is pretty much covering several bases. More power > to you! I always read several books at a time. For work, I've been re-reading Inferno, To Kill a Mockingbird, Monster (just finished Oedipus Rex, The Odyssey, and Of Mice and Men) with my students. For my grad class this semester I read The Spiritual Lives of Children, The Moral Intelligence of Children, The Call of Stories, Five Moral Pieces, Savage Inequalities, Socrates Cafe, Educational Philsophy, and Class Warfare. The Balzac and Smith mentioned above are just personal reading. Usually I have a book of poetry going, but I've been too busy lately. What have you been reading, Lynne? -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 10:50:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGGom6q025737 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:50:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9DB8C1E601A7; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:44:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F2AA1E601A2 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:44:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E6A54@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 11:37:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5999 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:37:29 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGGbRh03497 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:37:27 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-252.gwi.net [216.195.156.252]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAGGbPAr058972 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:37:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031116113425.00b3e878@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:37:44 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Dressing In-Reply-To: <132.27530acd.2ce8740d@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Oh my goddess, this sounds disgusting, except for the veggies with meat. Do you not like bread? > DO eat the fattening stuff like pudding with whipped cream, butter ALWAYS, Do you have dessert every day? Sugar really isn't a great way to gain weight. Things like bread and nuts are better. But mostly you have to actually eat regularly, if you feel like it or not. > and I NEVER weigh myself because I don't have the balance to do it. Weighing yourself doesn't add weight. Eating does. >I may have bacon and eggs if I feel like it, too. Again, you need to eat if you feel like it or not. >So you see that you misjudged my eating habits a bit by some..... >Theo No, I don't think I have. It remains no mystery at all to me why you don't gain weight. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 10:52:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGGqv6q025747 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:52:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 25ED21E601A7; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:46:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2EDA1E601A2 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:46:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E6A65@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 11:39:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 6087 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:39:38 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGGdch03645 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:39:38 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAGGdZHn005643 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:39:37 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000801c3ac60$33df0e80$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031116093302.00b1d9b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031116110001.00b47a08@pop.gwi.net> <1392683778.20031116102640@WordWrite.com> Subject: Re: Re: Att: Bethany (re your coach) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:39:27 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > These numbers are sometimes rounded off to an annual fifteen miles or > one hundred feet of altitude per day, but this can be misleading. > Change is more gradual in winter and summer. That's why Jones used the > word "steeper" when he compared spring and fall to the rest of the > year." > > I think this is cool. > > Karen > Or warm, as the case may be. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 10:53:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGGrU6q025752 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:53:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3D07A1E601A7; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:47:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F6441E601A2 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:47:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A48D0A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 11:40:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 6093 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:40:11 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAGGeBh03692 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:40:11 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:40:06 PST Message-ID: <20031116164006.73506.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:40:06 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Att: Bethany (re your coach) To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031116110001.00b47a08@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > It's one thing to write for enjoyment; it's quite > another to write for > deadlines/assignments. I'm finding that out again. > Anyhow, I really enjoy > sports---but I refuse to consider them as > instruments of the national will > or the highest expression of the excellence of my > alma mater. They are games. That's what I tell myself when my teams lose :-] But I fully agree with you, and find the fan violence associated with sports disgusting and unbecoming the human race. Look out, though. College basketball is one of my passions, and the season is upon us. Duke has been my team choice for 23 years. When are your deadlines (as in how often), and how do you handle them? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 10:55:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGGtd6q025765 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:55:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9F1F31E601A7; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:49:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71EC71E601A2 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:49:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A48D1B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 11:42:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 6116 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:42:20 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAGGgJh03816 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:42:19 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:42:14 PST Message-ID: <20031116164214.25283.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:42:14 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Att: Bethany (re your coach) To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1392683778.20031116102640@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > I've been thinking about posting about two books I'm > reading. The > first of these is "The Writing Trade: A Year In the > Life" by John > Jerome. He talks all about this very issue almost ad > nauseam, but > despite that, I'm enjoying the book a lot. > > One of the things he writes about is Hopkins's > Bioclimatic Law. You > may know about it, but I didn't, so I'll quote part > of that section: > "According to Hopkins, spring approaches from the > south, and fall > comes down from the north, at the rate of four days > per degree of > latitude. A degree of latitude is sixty-nine miles, > so spring and fall > approach at seventeen and a quarter miles per day. > Also, the seasons > don't just march up and down the globe: they march > up and down > mountainsides, too. A degree of latitude is > equivalent to a hundred > and twenty-two meters of altitude, and vice versa. > Hopkins's law thus > draws a kind of X-Y axis in space; where the lines > of altitude and > latitude intersects is the true, as opposed to the > calendar, season. > These numbers are sometimes rounded off to an annual > fifteen miles or > one hundred feet of altitude per day, but this can > be misleading. > Change is more gradual in winter and summer. That's > why Jones used the > word "steeper" when he compared spring and fall to > the rest of the > year." > > I think this is cool. It is cool. I would find these posts very interesting. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 10:57:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGGvv6q025790 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:57:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AE5C11E601A7; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:51:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C8991E601A2 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:51:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A48D1D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 11:44:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 6245 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:44:38 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGGibh03999 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:44:38 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAGGiWv8028664 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:44:37 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:45:32 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1717987898.20031116104532@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Dressing In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031116113425.00b3e878@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031116113425.00b3e878@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 16, 2003, bonniev wrote: >>Oh my goddess, this sounds disgusting, except for the veggies with meat. > Do you not like bread? Didn't she talk about being forced to eat bread as a child? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 11:09:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGH9s6q025983 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:09:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 19A371E601A2; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:03:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E01F61E60184 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:03:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A48D49@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 11:56:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 6669 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:56:35 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAGGuZh04942 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:56:35 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:56:30 PST Message-ID: <20031116165630.57055.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:56:30 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: middle-classed To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FB7A661.50006@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Rita Chapman wrote: > > > I always read several books at a time. For > work, I've been > re-reading Inferno, To Kill a Mockingbird, Monster > (just > finished Oedipus Rex, The Odyssey, and Of Mice and > Men) with > my students. For my grad class this semester I read > The > Spiritual Lives of Children, The Moral Intelligence > of > Children, The Call of Stories, Five Moral Pieces, > Savage > Inequalities, Socrates Cafe, Educational Philsophy, > and > Class Warfare. The Balzac and Smith mentioned above > are > just personal reading. Usually I have a book of > poetry > going, but I've been too busy lately. > > What have you been reading, Lynne? > You are luring me away from my laundry! I am rereading "The Pickwick Papers", have started "Victoria's Daughters", have finally gotten around to "A Confederacy of Dunces". In the "to be read" stack - "The Green Man", "Fall of the Russian Monarchy", and "Greene on Capri". I am all too well aware of my deficiency in the classics, and plan to remedy that before long. I would appreciate any advice on where to start. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 11:18:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGHIu6q026025 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:18:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 027071E601D4; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:12:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C28AB1E601A2 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:12:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A48D75@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 12:05:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 6849 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:05:33 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGH5Xh05717 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:05:33 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-252.gwi.net [216.195.156.252]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAGH5RGp055966; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:05:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031116115319.00b47798@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:05:27 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Att: Bethany (re your coach) In-Reply-To: <20031116164006.73506.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031116110001.00b47a08@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:40 AM 11/16/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >When are your deadlines (as in how often), and how do >you handle them? Very seldom, because I don't write (to assignment) very often any more. My deadline now is Thanksgiving week. When I taught short (very) courses in writing for scientific publication, I started out by noting that there are two basic methods of writing: (1) Write before you think; (2) Think before you write. Both are equally valid, but everyone needs to know which is more effective for them. I belong to the second school. I would rather think the subject/assignment through, read the appropriate material, scribble some rough notes, and then write once, doing most of my editing as I go. Incidentally, I have found that those of the first school, in which one quickly puts everything they can think of on paper (or disk, etc.) and then revises, often have a tough time doing the necessary cutting and slashing. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 11:26:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGHQG6q026113 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:26:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AB7401E601DE; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:20:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7E41E601D4 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:20:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A48D83@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 12:12:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 7003 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:12:57 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGHCvh06116 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:12:57 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-252.gwi.net [216.195.156.252]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAGHCrAt062843; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:12:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031116120547.00b57d68@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:12:53 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Att: Bethany (re your coach) In-Reply-To: <1392683778.20031116102640@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031116110001.00b47a08@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031116093302.00b1d9b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031116110001.00b47a08@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:26 AM 11/16/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >One of the things he writes about is Hopkins's Bioclimatic Law. You >may know about it, but I didn't, so I'll quote part of that section: >"According to Hopkins, spring approaches from the south, and fall >comes down from the north, at the rate of four days per degree of >latitude. A degree of latitude is sixty-nine miles, so spring and fall >approach at seventeen and a quarter miles per day. Also, the seasons >don't just march up and down the globe: they march up and down >mountainsides, too. There is an interesting climatic variation on Hopkins here on the Maine coast. Because it takes more time for water to cool down or warm up than it does air, our autumns tend to last longer than further inland, as the North Atlantic---although never exactly balmy---slowly approaches winter temperature. The opposite occurs in the spring; the influence of the still-winter ocean suppresses vernal warming longer than for inland areas. This is why April tends to be such a dismal month around here; we are past (for the most part) the snow season, but it takes what seems forever for the air and ground to warm sufficiently to support spring growth. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 11:29:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGHTP6q026128 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:29:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C6D951E601DE; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:23:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 947FB1E601D4 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:23:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A48D72@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 12:16:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 7100 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:16:06 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAGHG6h06391 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:16:06 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:16:00 PST Message-ID: <20031116171600.20700.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:16:00 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Hej, Natalie To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Have you watched a movie called "The Other Sister"? I believe you would love it, it's a wonderful feel-good one. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 11:31:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGHVi6q026173 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:31:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 901FE1E60322; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:25:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 607341E601DE for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:25:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A48D78@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 12:18:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 7159 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:18:24 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGHIOh06558 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:18:24 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAGHIAl6015582 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:18:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:19:22 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <563182648.20031116111922@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Att: Bethany (re your coach) In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031116115319.00b47798@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031116110001.00b47a08@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031116115319.00b47798@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 16, 2003, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > Incidentally, I have found that those of the first school, in which one > quickly puts everything they can think of on paper (or disk, etc.) and then > revises, often have a tough time doing the necessary cutting and slashing. One of the thing the Jerome book talks about a lot is writing to word length. This is a new concept for me, and I find it an interesting experience. (I had to do this for the first time for a job I didn't get.) I've always been an under-writer (short sentences, few words), so cutting and slashing are challenging for me. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 11:39:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGHdP6q026345 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:39:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DDDE11E601D5; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:33:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3F0E1E601D4 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:33:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A48D9A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 12:26:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 7380 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:26:06 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGHQ6h07077 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:26:06 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAGHPml6021501 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:25:53 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:27:00 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1974235067.20031116112700@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Att: Bethany (re your coach) In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031116120547.00b57d68@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031116110001.00b47a08@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031116093302.00b1d9b0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031116110001.00b47a08@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031116120547.00b57d68@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 16, 2003, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > There is an interesting climatic variation on Hopkins here on the Maine > coast. Because it takes more time for water to cool down or warm up than > it does air, our autumns tend to last longer than further inland, as the > North Atlantic---although never exactly balmy---slowly approaches winter > temperature. The opposite occurs in the spring; the influence of the > still-winter ocean suppresses vernal warming longer than for inland > areas. This is why April tends to be such a dismal month around here; we > are past (for the most part) the snow season, but it takes what seems > forever for the air and ground to warm sufficiently to support spring growth. It'd be nice to see this worked out in feet per day or something.:) That always helps me cope with the no-progress feeling. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 11:43:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGHhu6q026367 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:43:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CD2851E601D5; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:37:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EF101E601D4 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:37:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E6ACD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 12:30:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 7571 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:30:37 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGHUah07473 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:30:37 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAGHUZeO015110 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:30:35 -0800 Received: from c35206-d ([24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAGHUYa2015093; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:30:34 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031116093135.00a78630@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:32:41 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Basketball In-Reply-To: <20031116164006.73506.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031116110001.00b47a08@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:40 AM 11/16/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >Look out, though. College basketball is one of my >passions, and the season is upon us. Duke has been my >team choice for 23 years. We have tickets to the men's basketball games this year. Leon Powe is going to be a lot of fun to watch. BB From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 11:46:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGHkl6q026385 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:46:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DA1631E601DE; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:40:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7DFB1E601D5 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:40:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A48DB5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 12:33:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 7651 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:33:28 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAGHXSh07686 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:33:28 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:33:22 PST Message-ID: <20031116173322.35042.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:33:22 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Basketball To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031116093135.00a78630@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Betty wrote: > We have tickets to the men's basketball games this > year. Leon Powe is > going to be a lot of fun to watch. I don't know Leon, but if he's a super player, he will delight me. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 12:04:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGI4c6q026602 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:04:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AE3D71E601D5; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:58:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 802601E601D4 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:58:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A48DDC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 12:51:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 8054 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:51:19 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGHpIh08776 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:51:19 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.160.33]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031116175113.SESJ17368.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:51:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB7B912.62259304@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:51:14 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: Bethany (re your coach) References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031116093302.00b1d9b0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > What you read is another chapter is one of the longest continuous debates > in college football. One line of reasoning is that you continue to play > hard irrespective of the score or the amount of time left. The opposing > view is that you shouldn't run the score up once you have a commanding > lead, or if you are way, way behind, you should just play out the string. I knew about the don't-run-up-the-score etiquette -- or rather don't TRY to run it up -- as in don't leave your stars in the game just to keep running the score up. But I didn't know the give-up-if-you're-way-behind thing. I thought it was considered for a losing team to keep trying hard and was good for their psyches to score a few points near the end, even though they have no hope of winning. > Moreover, in a lopsided game, the later stages are the time > to play the second and third-stringers to give them "game experience" and > you certainly wouldn't then tell them not to try hard---after all, they are > likely to be your first team next year. That's how I thought it worked normally -- that the second and third-stringers were normally in the a lop-sided game at the end and that they are expected to play hard for the experience. I don't know who all else was in the game at the end on our side yesterday, but our first-string quarterback wasn't. It was his backup who orchestrated those two touchdowns near the end. > So, what you have is two no-necked, fat-mouthed, jocks-turned-coaches, > neither of which will ever inhabit anyone's pantheon of sterling > intellects, engaging in nursery-school-recess colloquy. :-) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 12:06:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGI606q026607 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:06:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 759311E601D5; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:59:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4851C1E601D4 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:59:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A48DFA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 12:52:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 8216 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:52:40 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGHqeh08987 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:52:40 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.160.33]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031116175235.SFEJ17368.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:52:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB7B964.369A351D@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:52:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dressing References: <20031116153404.87502.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Peanut butter is an excellent food, and > if the sandwiches are too dry, try peanut butter and > honey. It's really good! I love peanut butter and honey sandwiches. I also like peanut butter and banana, though I am more likely to do it salad style instead of sandwich style. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 12:07:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGI7M6q026673 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:07:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BAAE51E601D5; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:01:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CA531E601D4 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:01:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E6B32@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 12:54:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 8250 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:54:03 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGHs2h09074 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:54:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.160.33]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031116175357.SFSP17368.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:53:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB7B9B6.C69F03CC@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:53:58 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: White Dog Caper References: <20031116154033.41978.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > Trivial? TRIVIAL?? We're talking about The White > > Dog here! He may > > have been sent from heaven on a mission to help us. > > Yes, and the sooner everyone grasps the enormity of > the White Dog concept, the better. Doris is an > eminently rational individual who will come around in > no time. I think it may be a matter of . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 12:08:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGI8L6q026700 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:08:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 13E321E601D4; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:02:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C441E601A9 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:02:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A48DF3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 12:55:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 8267 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:55:01 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGHt1h09129 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:55:01 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.160.33]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031116175455.SGBZ17368.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:54:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB7B9F1.3845D4A2@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:54:57 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: dreaming References: <20031116154233.17817.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > Has Burl always been female? Why did I think she > > was male? > > In my short experience, I've always thought of Burl as > female. Maybe she swapped genders in the middle of > the stream. It's odd that I thought of her as male, given that in the early years of my life I thought dogs were male and cats female. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 12:12:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGIC36q026731 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:12:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4C3B41E601D5; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:05:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E2E41E601D4 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:05:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A48DEF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 12:58:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 8363 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:58:43 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGHwhh09309 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:58:43 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.160.33]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031116175838.SHOJ17368.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:58:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB7BACF.FB343201@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:58:39 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Basketball References: <20031116173322.35042.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > I don't know Leon, but if he's a super player, he will > delight me. Do you know who wore red shoes? Was it somebody at Alabama? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 12:13:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGIDG6q026738 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:13:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3FC331E601D4; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:07:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 112461E601A9 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:07:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A48DF2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 12:59:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 8385 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:59:56 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGHxuh09350 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:59:56 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.160.33]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031116175951.SHWN17368.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:59:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB7BB18.8E0E4CF0@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:59:52 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hej, Natalie References: <20031116171600.20700.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > Have you watched a movie called "The Other Sister"? I > believe you would love it, it's a wonderful feel-good one. No, I don't know that movie. Is it old or new or middle-aged? Can I find it at a tape-rental place? I bet I could find answers to those questions on the web, but imftaotl. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 12:16:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGIGB6q026772 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:16:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 830DF1E601D4; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:10:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 556A51E601A9 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:10:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A48E11@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 13:02:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 8444 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:02:51 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGI2ph09553 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:02:51 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.160.33]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031116180246.SIPC17368.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:02:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB7BBC7.2DCF9C0D@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:02:47 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hej, Natalie References: <20031116171600.20700.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> <3FB7BB18.8E0E4CF0@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Is it old or new or middle-aged? 1999 > Can I > find it at a tape-rental place? Probably. ******** Ultimately, this is a sweet, albeit occasionally saccharine, tale that will move those who are looking for cheerful fare. ******** from: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/6305531293/102-2542089-8570509?v=glance#product-details -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 12:16:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGIGE6q026775 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:16:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0CB3F1E601D4; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:10:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CED9C1E601A9 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:10:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A48E05@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 13:02:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 8448 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:02:54 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGI2sh09558 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:02:54 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 ([206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAGI2pHn022689 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:02:53 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001601c3ac6b$d53e1680$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031116154033.41978.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> <3FB7B9B6.C69F03CC@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: White Dog Caper Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:02:42 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I think it may be a matter of . > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > Of course. Have you not read The Inner Life of the White Dog? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 12:17:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGIHP6q026801 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:17:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 315D71E601D5; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:11:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03CF91E601D4 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:11:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A48E13@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 13:04:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 8477 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:04:05 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGI45h09648 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:04:05 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.160.33]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031116180400.SIWF17368.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:04:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB7BC11.CA2628CF@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:04:01 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hej, Natalie References: <20031116171600.20700.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> <3FB7BB18.8E0E4CF0@maynor.net> <3FB7BBC7.2DCF9C0D@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Can I > > find it at a tape-rental place? > > Probably. Almost certainly. ******** This movie made me feel GOOD. I watched it 3 times and now after i returned it to the video store i miss it like hell ******** from: (see below -- same source) > from: > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/6305531293/102-2542089-8570509?v=glance#product-details > -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 12:19:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGIJQ6q026828 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:19:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EB26E1E601DE; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:13:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCC4A1E601D5 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:13:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A48DFB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 13:06:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 8517 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:06:06 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGI66h09772 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:06:06 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.160.33]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031116180600.SJKD17368.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:06:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB7BC8A.CE03E344@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:06:02 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: White Dog Caper References: <20031116154033.41978.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> <3FB7B9B6.C69F03CC@maynor.net> <001601c3ac6b$d53e1680$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > > > > I think it may be a matter of . > > Of course. Have you not read > The Inner Life of the White Dog? I don't need to read it. I have communed with The White Dog ftf and looked into his pinkish eyes, windows to his inner self. I haven't looked for him this morning on the webcam since the rain has been pouring mightily all morning. Hmm. That would mean that if the white glob is still there, it is surely not he -- unless it's his dead body. Maybe I should look. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 12:20:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGIKb6q026846 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:20:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C77771E601D4; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:14:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 998591E601A9 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:14:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A48E00@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 13:07:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 8565 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:07:18 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGI7Ih09866 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:07:18 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.160.33]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031116180712.SJRD17368.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:07:12 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB7BCD2.E5516EF2@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:07:14 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: White Dog Caper References: <20031116154033.41978.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> <3FB7B9B6.C69F03CC@maynor.net> <001601c3ac6b$d53e1680$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB7BC8A.CE03E344@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The white glob is gone! http://www.ie.msstate.edu/netcam/netcam.htm Maybe it was indeed The White Dog. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 12:29:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGITZ6q026956 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:29:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9B9A21E601A5; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:23:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D0D51E60162 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:23:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E6B68@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 13:16:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 8800 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:16:16 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGIGFh10433 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:16:15 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.160.33]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031116181610.SLSD17368.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:16:10 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB7BEEB.9F1E7B50@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:16:11 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: The Red Shoes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Antoine Pettway, Alabama. "Red shoes became his trademark" from: http://www.rolltide.com/Mens%20Basketball/4998.asp -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 12:59:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGIxI6q027306 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:59:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B16671E601C2; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:52:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F1F81E601AC for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:52:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E6BA4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 13:45:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 9227 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:45:01 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGIZ1h11562 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:35:01 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAGIYBeN015060 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:34:12 -0500 Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:34:58 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Bethany: How to catch Maria In-Reply-To: <3FB787D9.6060901@swbell.net> Message-ID: References: <3FB787D9.6060901@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: >So, out of the barn rush 5 pre-adolescent girls, running and >yelling "BJ! BJ! BJ!". That poor pony took one look at what >was coming his way and gave up. It took them all 5 minutes >to get that halter on since they couldn't figure out how it >worked, and led him back to his stall. Sounds right! When I bought Maria, it took 5 people to catch her! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 13:00:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGJ0v6q027324 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:00:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 711B51E601AC; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:54:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D79E1E601A6 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:54:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E6BAE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 13:47:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 9348 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:47:37 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGIbbh11729 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:37:37 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAGIameN015530 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:36:48 -0500 Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:37:37 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: Bethany (re your coach) In-Reply-To: <20031116154619.23828.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031116154619.23828.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >Unless, of course, Coach Sherrill had a bet on the >game (point spread). But you and Natalie would know >nothing about gambling in this situation. :-] Well, I wasn't going to say anything, but ... Phil knew of our bet, and he was trying to help me. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 13:26:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGJQq6q027686 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:26:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 196BF1E601AC; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:20:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF99B1E601B4 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:20:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E6C1A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 14:13:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 10217 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:13:32 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGJDWh14386 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:13:32 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAGJDUW1009880 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:13:30 -0800 Received: from c35206-d ([24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAGJDTWq009858; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:13:30 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031116111510.00a2a100@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:15:36 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: White Dog Caper In-Reply-To: <3FB7BCD2.E5516EF2@maynor.net> References: <20031116154033.41978.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> <3FB7B9B6.C69F03CC@maynor.net> <001601c3ac6b$d53e1680$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB7BC8A.CE03E344@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:07 PM 11/16/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >The white glob is gone! > >http://www.ie.msstate.edu/netcam/netcam.htm > >Maybe it was indeed The White Dog. No dog but lots of puddles this morning. Checking regularly. BB From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 14:45:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGKj46q028486 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:45:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 146741E601F4; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:38:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA7791E601F0 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:38:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A48F5C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 15:31:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11951 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:31:43 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGKVgh19204 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:31:43 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAGKVfk0028457 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:31:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FB7DE5A.1000103@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:30:18 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Bethany: How to catch Maria References: <4.2.2.20031116063044.00a7f690@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > At 08:21 AM 11/16/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > >> We've discovered a technique that works! >> >> Yesterday, Ana forgot to latch the stall door for the pony >> she rode, and he wandered out to the back pasture. I told >> Ana to go catch her pony, and Kelly thought she wouldn't be >> able to do that since this particular Pony is notorious and >> he didn't have his halter on. >> >> So, out of the barn rush 5 pre-adolescent girls, running and >> yelling "BJ! BJ! BJ!". That poor pony took one look at what >> was coming his way and gave up. It took them all 5 minutes >> to get that halter on since they couldn't figure out how it >> worked, and led him back to his stall. > > > I love this image. How often does Ana get to ride? Every Saturday. I hope a little more in the summer. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 14:47:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGKlB6q028504 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:47:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 316ED1E601EA; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:41:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F147F1E601E5 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:41:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A48F70@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 15:33:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12020 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:33:50 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGKXoh19337 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:33:50 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAGKXnk0029209 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:33:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FB7DEDA.2010900@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:32:26 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <20031116165630.57055.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Rita Chapman wrote: > >> >> I always read several books at a time. For >>work, I've been >>re-reading Inferno, To Kill a Mockingbird, Monster >>(just >>finished Oedipus Rex, The Odyssey, and Of Mice and >>Men) with >>my students. For my grad class this semester I read >>The >>Spiritual Lives of Children, The Moral Intelligence >>of >>Children, The Call of Stories, Five Moral Pieces, >>Savage >>Inequalities, Socrates Cafe, Educational Philsophy, >>and >>Class Warfare. The Balzac and Smith mentioned above >>are >>just personal reading. Usually I have a book of >>poetry >>going, but I've been too busy lately. >> >> What have you been reading, Lynne? >> >> > You are luring me away from my laundry! > > I am rereading "The Pickwick Papers", have started > "Victoria's Daughters", have finally gotten around to > "A Confederacy of Dunces". In the "to be read" stack - > "The Green Man", "Fall of the Russian Monarchy", and > "Greene on Capri". I am all too well aware of my > deficiency in the classics, and plan to remedy that > before long. I would appreciate any advice on where > to start. Go for what you think you'll like. I'd never suggest Dickens, personally, but that's all a matter of taste. I prefer French and Russian novels right now. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 14:50:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGKoi6q028521 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:50:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CB9A81E601EA; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:44:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 993C51E601E5 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:44:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A48F78@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 15:37:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12106 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:37:24 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGKbNh19554 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:37:23 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAGKbM9u007240 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:37:23 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FB7DFAF.6080306@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:35:59 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: Bethany (re your coach) References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031116110001.00b47a08@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031116115319.00b47798@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 08:40 AM 11/16/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > >> When are your deadlines (as in how often), and how do >> you handle them? > > > Very seldom, because I don't write (to assignment) very often any more. My > deadline now is Thanksgiving week. > > When I taught short (very) courses in writing for scientific publication, I > started out by noting that there are two basic methods of writing: (1) > Write before you think; (2) Think before you write. Both are equally > valid, but everyone needs to know which is more effective for them. I > belong to the second school. I would rather think the subject/assignment > through, read the appropriate material, scribble some rough notes, and then > write once, doing most of my editing as I go. > > Incidentally, I have found that those of the first school, in which one > quickly puts everything they can think of on paper (or disk, etc.) and then > revises, often have a tough time doing the necessary cutting and slashing. I do both. Depends on what I'm writing and why. I try to teach my students to vary their approach depending on what the writing demands. A creative piece is much different than a research paper. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 15:05:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGL5e6q028650 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:05:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2E1251E601D4; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:59:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 000601E60120 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:59:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A48F7D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 15:52:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12436 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:52:19 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGKqJh20643 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:52:19 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAGKqE5Z009776 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:52:18 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:53:15 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <974804569.20031116145315@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Bonnie is indeed a recluse! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sorry I doubted. This is from a mailing list for job-free Austinites: "For example, although you may not know anyone who works at Company X, you do know about 250 people, if you’re at all average. And the 250 people you know, know 250 others. That’s 62,500 people. Chances are, one of them is connected somehow to Company X." Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 15:08:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGL8P6q028684 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:08:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 333A91E601D4; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:02:19 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E031E60120 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:02:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A48F9B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 15:55:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12489 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:55:03 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGKt3h20780 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:55:03 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-252.gwi.net [216.195.156.252]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAGKt1Ar090048 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:55:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031116155507.00b2d190@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:55:21 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Dressing In-Reply-To: <1717987898.20031116104532@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031116113425.00b3e878@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031116113425.00b3e878@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Do you not like bread? > >Didn't she talk about being forced to eat bread as a child? >Karen I thought it was tulip bulbs. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 15:09:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGL946q028699 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:09:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 48DFA1E601EC; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:02:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17DC31E601E5 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:02:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A48F86@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 15:55:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12529 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:55:43 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGKthh20834 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:55:43 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAGKtcv8019946 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:55:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:56:39 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <754955305.20031116145639@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Att: Bethany (re your coach) In-Reply-To: <3FB7DFAF.6080306@swbell.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031116110001.00b47a08@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031116115319.00b47798@pop.gwi.net> <3FB7DFAF.6080306@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 16, 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > clyde w. voigtlander wrote: >> When I taught short (very) courses in writing for scientific publication, I >> started out by noting that there are two basic methods of writing: (1) >> Write before you think; (2) Think before you write. > I do both. Depends on what I'm writing and why. I try to > teach my students to vary their approach depending on what > the writing demands. A creative piece is much different > than a research paper. For me, it also depends on what shape my brain is in that day. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 15:09:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGL9Y6q028703 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:09:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E53211E601E5; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:03:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7E311E601D4 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:03:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A48FA1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 15:56:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12540 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:56:13 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGKuDh20869 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:56:13 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAGKu35Z012667 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:56:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:57:04 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1211088815.20031116145704@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Dressing In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031116155507.00b2d190@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031116113425.00b3e878@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031116113425.00b3e878@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031116155507.00b2d190@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 16, 2003, bonniev wrote: >> > Do you not like bread? >> >>Didn't she talk about being forced to eat bread as a child? >>Karen > I thought it was tulip bulbs. Those, too. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 15:29:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGLTG6q028928 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:29:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9DE001E601EE; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:22:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EF981E601BB for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:22:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A48FC4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 16:14:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13016 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:14:46 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAGLEjh22000 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:14:45 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:14:40 PST Message-ID: <20031116211440.54138.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:14:40 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Bonnie is indeed a recluse! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <974804569.20031116145315@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > Sorry I doubted. > > This is from a mailing list for job-free Austinites: > "For example, > although you may not know anyone who works at > Company X, you do know > about 250 people, if you’re at all average. And the > 250 people you > know, know 250 others. That’s 62,500 people. Chances > are, one of them > is connected somehow to Company X." So you probably know Kevin Spacey! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 15:29:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGLTG6q028929 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:29:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9375E1E601FD; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:22:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 657821E601BB for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:22:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A48FC5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 16:15:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13029 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:15:15 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAGLFFh22055 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:15:15 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:15:10 PST Message-ID: <20031116211510.74999.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:15:10 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Dressing To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031116155507.00b2d190@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: > > > Do you not like bread? > > > >Didn't she talk about being forced to eat bread as > a child? > >Karen > > I thought it was tulip bulbs. > > > bonnie Tulip bulbs on rye. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 16:20:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGMKq6q029607 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:20:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9B8E61E601CA; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:14:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA8D1E601C9 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:14:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A490D7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 17:07:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 15646 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:07:31 -0500 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGM7Uh26846 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:07:30 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.84.1c83b869 (16930) for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:07:22 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <84.1c83b869.2ce94f1a@aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:07:22 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] The Red Shoes To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/16/2003 12:16:35 PM Central Standard Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << Antoine Pettway, Alabama. 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From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 16:38:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGMcc6q029855 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:38:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9DBFD1E601CA; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:32:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FB391E601C5 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:32:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A49118@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 17:25:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 16113 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:25:16 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGMPGh28110 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:25:16 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-252.gwi.net [216.195.156.252]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAGMP7Gr087788; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:25:15 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031116171957.00b50a40@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:23:01 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Att: Bethany (re your coach) In-Reply-To: <3FB7DFAF.6080306@swbell.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031116110001.00b47a08@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031116115319.00b47798@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:35 PM 11/16/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > ... I try to teach my students to vary their approach depending on what >the writing demands. A creative piece is much different >than a research paper. Oh yes. Stream-of-consciousness, which is frowned upon in scientific writing, can be very effective otherwise. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 16:38:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGMcd6q029858 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:38:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B9BA81E601CA; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:32:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 884311E601C5 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:32:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A490FE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 17:25:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 16117 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:25:18 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGMPHh28115 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:25:17 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-252.gwi.net [216.195.156.252]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAGMP7Gt087788; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:25:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031116172405.00b65920@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:25:07 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Bonnie is indeed a recluse! In-Reply-To: <974804569.20031116145315@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:53 PM 11/16/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >"For example, although you may not know anyone who works at Company X, you >do know >about 250 people, if you're at all average. And the 250 people you >know, know 250 others. That's 62,500 people. Chances are, one of them >is connected somehow to Company X." How terribly frightening. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 16:41:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGMfN6q029867 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:41:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E40D11E601F0; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:35:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1D531E601CA for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:35:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A49112@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 17:28:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 16285 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:28:02 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGMS1h28410 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:28:01 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-252.gwi.net [216.195.156.252]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAGMRrAt001510; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:28:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031116172544.00b62da8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:26:45 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Dressing In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031116155507.00b2d190@pop.gwi.net> References: <1717987898.20031116104532@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031116113425.00b3e878@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031116113425.00b3e878@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:55 PM 11/16/2003 -0500, bonniev wrote: >> > Do you not like bread? >> >>Didn't she talk about being forced to eat bread as a child? >>Karen > >I thought it was tulip bulbs. ...and that was after having to walk five miles in the snow to take a bath in an icy pond... cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 16:47:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGMli6q029945 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:47:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EEA901E6020A; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:41:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA5411E601FF for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:41:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A49121@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 17:34:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 16466 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:34:23 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGMYMh28848 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:34:22 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAGMYL9u022161 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:34:22 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FB7FB10.5020403@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:32:48 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: Bethany (re your coach) References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031116110001.00b47a08@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031116115319.00b47798@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031116171957.00b50a40@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 02:35 PM 11/16/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > >> ... I try to teach my students to vary their approach depending on >> what >> the writing demands. A creative piece is much different >> than a research paper. > > > Oh yes. Stream-of-consciousness, which is frowned upon in scientific > writing, can be very effective otherwise. Well, there is something in between as well. I can be writing something in which I know where I want to end up. For a piece like that I might write the conclusion first, maybe an outline, then do the research I need, and proceed to write. For the paper I wrote last weekend, I had all the ideas, knew roughly what I wanted to say, had several freewrites about the books I'd read concerning the topic, but didn't connect everything until I sat down to write. In that case, I wrote the middle of the paper first, and when the shape emerged, I did the disciplined work of making it tight and logical, etc. I write like that most frequently because it it is quickest for me (in that case, about 17 pages in 5 or 6 hours with many breaks). On the other hand, I always write poetry a little at a time in a very layered, draft intensive process. Any single poem of mine has probably gone through 50 drafts over at least several months. I can see where some of these approaches wouldn't fit scientific writing very well -- maybe that first approach would. I used that one a lot when I wrote newspaper articles, etc. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 16:52:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGMqa6q030042 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:52:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6A8C21E6017C; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:46:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 364111E601FF for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:46:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A49146@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 17:38:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 16575 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:38:51 -0500 Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com (imo-r06.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.102]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGMcph29143 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:38:51 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.97.40b82b7d (18707) for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:38:41 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <97.40b82b7d.2ce95671@aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:38:41 EST Subject: Re: White Dog Caper To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/16/2003 5:35:47 AM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >We're talking about The White Dog here! He may >have been sent from heaven on a mission to help us. ------ Get with it Natalie. He ain't done a thing for me. and I dare say there are others who couldn't care less! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 17:00:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGN0A6q030107 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:00:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EC96F1E6020A; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:54:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBA481E60206 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:54:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4915A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 17:46:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 16805 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:46:44 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGMkih29666 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:46:44 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAGMkh9u027493 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:46:43 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FB7FDF3.50805@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:45:07 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: White Dog Caper References: <97.40b82b7d.2ce95671@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > In a message dated 11/16/2003 5:35:47 AM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: > > >>We're talking about The White Dog here! He may >>have been sent from heaven on a mission to help us. >> > ------ > Get with it Natalie. He ain't done a thing for me. and I dare say there are > others who couldn't care less! The White Dog is a splendid metaphor. I worry for Theo's lack of spiritual imagination. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 17:01:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGN1L6q030114 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:01:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3007A1E60206; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:55:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0296B1E601FD for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:55:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4915B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 17:47:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 16819 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:47:59 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGMlxh29780 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:47:59 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAGMlw9u028014 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:47:58 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FB7FE3E.3080804@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:46:22 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dressing References: <1717987898.20031116104532@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031116113425.00b3e878@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031116113425.00b3e878@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031116172544.00b62da8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 03:55 PM 11/16/2003 -0500, bonniev wrote: > >>> > Do you not like bread? >>> >>> Didn't she talk about being forced to eat bread as a child? >>> Karen >> >> >> I thought it was tulip bulbs. > > > ...and that was after having to walk five miles in the snow to take a bath > in an icy pond... With the Canadians. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 17:20:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGNKj6q030327 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:20:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D21131E601FD; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:14:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A315D1E60155 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:14:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A491A4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 18:07:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 17654 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:07:24 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGN7Nh31599 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:07:23 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-252.gwi.net [216.195.156.252]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAGN7LAt007005; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:07:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031116180640.00b62c30@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:07:20 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Dressing In-Reply-To: <3FB7FE3E.3080804@swbell.net> References: <1717987898.20031116104532@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031116113425.00b3e878@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031116113425.00b3e878@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031116172544.00b62da8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:46 PM 11/16/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >>>I thought it was tulip bulbs. >> >> >>...and that was after having to walk five miles in the snow to take a bath >>in an icy pond... > > > With the Canadians. That, too. No wonder White Dogs bother her. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 17:50:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGNoo6q030728 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:50:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4BE131E60193; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:44:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E3151E6016A for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:44:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A49211@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 18:37:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 18821 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:37:28 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGNbSh02100 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:37:28 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.144.206]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031116233723.QWGN20993.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:37:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB80A34.87DDAE0D@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:37:24 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: Bethany (re your coach) References: <20031116154619.23828.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Well, I wasn't going to say anything, but ... Phil knew of our bet, and he > was trying to help me. And Jackie knew of mine and was trying to hurt me. That man needs to be fired! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 17:52:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGNqO6q030748 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:52:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 569081E6020A; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:46:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27D491E60193 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:46:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A49212@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 18:39:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 18843 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:39:02 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGNd2h02207 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:39:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.144.206]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031116233857.QWUB20993.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:38:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB80A92.5396B1E0@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:38:58 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: Bethany (re your coach) References: <20031116154619.23828.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Oops -- he wasn't trying to hurt me -- he was trying to help me! I forgot. My mind is filled with mailbox thoughts. I've been assigned the duty of being a and checking in a mailbox catalogue at a building-supply place to find the perfect mailboxes for several of us in the neighborhood to get. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 17:53:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGNrD6q030754 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:53:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C87D41E60193; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:47:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ABA71E6016A for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:47:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A49213@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 18:39:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 18857 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:39:51 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGNdoh02235 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:39:50 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.144.206]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031116233945.QXAU20993.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:39:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB80AC2.CBFFFACD@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:39:46 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: White Dog Caper References: <20031116154033.41978.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> <3FB7B9B6.C69F03CC@maynor.net> <001601c3ac6b$d53e1680$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB7BC8A.CE03E344@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031116111510.00a2a100@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > No dog but lots of puddles this morning. Checking regularly. And it's dark again now. I'll perhaps check on him ftf tomorrow. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 17:54:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGNsT6q030760 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:54:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 474BB1E60193; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:48:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 144691E6016A for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:48:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A49221@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 18:41:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 18879 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:41:07 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGNf7h02319 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:41:07 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.144.206]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031116234102.QXOP20993.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:41:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB80B0F.385B7C1D@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:41:03 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <20031116165630.57055.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> <3FB7DEDA.2010900@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > I'd never suggest > Dickens, personally, but that's all a matter of taste. I saw a funny play this afternoon -- "Inspecting Carol." It involved Dickens. (And I was proud to see the chair I gave the SCT sitting there on the stage during some of the scenes.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 17:55:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGNtu6q030772 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:55:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 531921E60193; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:49:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 240161E6016A for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:49:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A49216@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 18:42:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 18895 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:42:34 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGNgYh02388 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:42:34 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.144.206]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031116234229.QYBY20993.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:42:29 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB80B66.BDA87C7E@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:42:30 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Bonnie is indeed a recluse! References: <974804569.20031116145315@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > you do know > about 250 people, if you’re at all average. I would call that a very small number of people to know. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 17:56:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGNum6q030778 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:56:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BF6FA1E60193; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:50:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E1ED1E6016A for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:50:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A49227@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 18:43:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 18941 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:43:26 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGNhPh02451 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:43:25 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.144.206]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031116234318.QYJU20993.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:43:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB80B97.73E2A79@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:43:19 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dressing References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031116113425.00b3e878@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031116113425.00b3e878@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031116155507.00b2d190@pop.gwi.net> <1211088815.20031116145704@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > I thought it was tulip bulbs. > > Those, too. And, as a result, she flowered. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 17:59:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAGNxQ6q030800 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:59:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E89151E6016A; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:53:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF0E41E6013E for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:53:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4922F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 18:46:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 19034 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:46:04 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGNk3h02688 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:46:03 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAGNk2W1002166 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:46:02 -0800 Received: from c35206-d ([24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAGNk1Wq002150; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:46:01 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031116154748.00a7f800@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:48:07 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: White Dog Caper In-Reply-To: <3FB80AC2.CBFFFACD@maynor.net> References: <20031116154033.41978.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> <3FB7B9B6.C69F03CC@maynor.net> <001601c3ac6b$d53e1680$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB7BC8A.CE03E344@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031116111510.00a2a100@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:39 PM 11/16/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty wrote: > > > No dog but lots of puddles this morning. Checking regularly. > >And it's dark again now. I'll perhaps check on him ftf tomorrow. Let me know what time and I'll look for you. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 18:08:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAH08c6q030873 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:08:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 728F71E6016A; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:02:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 424641E6013E for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:02:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E6F84@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 18:55:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 19383 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:55:16 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAGNtGh04041 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:55:16 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.144.206]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031116235511.WFVU6276.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:55:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB80E60.738F6505@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:55:12 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: White Dog Caper References: <20031116154033.41978.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> <3FB7B9B6.C69F03CC@maynor.net> <001601c3ac6b$d53e1680$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB7BC8A.CE03E344@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031116111510.00a2a100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031116154748.00a7f800@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > >And it's dark again now. I'll perhaps check on him ftf tomorrow. > > Let me know what time and I'll look for you. I usually ftf with him out of range of that webcam. I do walk along that sidewalk every TTh morning, though -- about 7:55 and then again about 9:15. It's unfortunate that that webcam is owned by the IE Dept and thus is in their bldg. That makes for an ugly view, imho. Any other view of that general area would be much prettier -- i.e., a camera facing out from any one of the three other sides of the rectangle that forms the drillfield. The background is ugly in the current view. Although the cafeteria is an interesting and pretty building, the way it shows up in the background of those webcam views does not show that. And the Union steps look cluttery. And the edge of the stadium rising up on the right is tacky looking. FWP years ago had plans to hang a webcam from my office window, which would have been perfect. That's when the idiotic campus lawyer said no. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 18:16:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAH0G16q030982 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:16:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 31FFA1E60193; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:07:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 005CB1E6016A for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:07:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A49239@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 19:00:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 19477 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 19:00:24 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAH00Oh04634 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 19:00:24 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAH00MeO014239 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:00:22 -0800 Received: from c35206-d ([24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAH00La2014217; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:00:21 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031116160142.00a82440@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:02:27 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: White Dog Caper In-Reply-To: <3FB80E60.738F6505@maynor.net> References: <20031116154033.41978.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> <3FB7B9B6.C69F03CC@maynor.net> <001601c3ac6b$d53e1680$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB7BC8A.CE03E344@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031116111510.00a2a100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031116154748.00a7f800@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:55 PM 11/16/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty wrote: > > > >And it's dark again now. I'll perhaps check on him ftf tomorrow. > > > > Let me know what time and I'll look for you. > >I usually ftf with him out of range of that webcam. I do walk along >that sidewalk every TTh morning, though -- about 7:55 and then again >about 9:15. It's unfortunate that that webcam is owned by the IE Dept >and thus is in their bldg. That makes for an ugly view, imho. Any >other view of that general area would be much prettier -- i.e., a camera >facing out from any one of the three other sides of the rectangle that >forms the drillfield. The background is ugly in the current view. >Although the cafeteria is an interesting and pretty building, the way it >shows up in the background of those webcam views does not show that. >And the Union steps look cluttery. And the edge of the stadium rising >up on the right is tacky looking. FWP years ago had plans to hang a >webcam from my office window, which would have been perfect. That's >when the idiotic campus lawyer said no. E-mail just before you take off, or call. 510-642-5053 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 18:51:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAH0ps6q031358 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:51:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 550501E60108; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:45:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26CDE1E600BC for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:45:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A492BD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 19:38:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 20784 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 19:38:31 -0500 Received: from fe3.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAH0cVh08429 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 19:38:31 -0500 Received: from [68.160.37.105] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO bc.edu) by fe3.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP id 36120711 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 19:38:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB8187C.2090806@bc.edu> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 19:38:20 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: White Dog Caper References: <20031116154033.41978.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> <3FB7B9B6.C69F03CC@maynor.net> <001601c3ac6b$d53e1680$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB7BC8A.CE03E344@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031116111510.00a2a100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031116154748.00a7f800@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031116160142.00a82440@uclink.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031116160142.00a82440@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > > E-mail just before you take off, or call. 510-642-5053 Yes, do! I'll look for you as well. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 18:55:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAH0tP6q031368 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:55:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 139561E60108; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:49:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4AF01E600BC for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:49:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A492D3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 19:42:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 20877 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 19:42:03 -0500 Received: from fe1.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAH0g3h08646 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 19:42:03 -0500 Received: from [68.160.37.105] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO bc.edu) by fe1.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP id 37611274 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 19:42:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB81959.1040007@bc.edu> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 19:42:01 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: White Dog Caper References: <97.40b82b7d.2ce95671@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <97.40b82b7d.2ce95671@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: >In a message dated 11/16/2003 5:35:47 AM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: > > > >-----Get with it Natalie. He ain't done a thing for me. and I dare say there are >others who couldn't care less! >Theo > And then there are those of us who care deeply! Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 19:00:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAH10M6q031457 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 19:00:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3C4B21E6020B; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:54:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C2051E6020A for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:54:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A492D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 19:47:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 21004 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 19:47:00 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAH0l0h08992 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 19:47:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.144.206]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031117004654.RSJX13493.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 19:46:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB81A80.2A967137@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:46:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: White Dog Caper References: <20031116154033.41978.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> <3FB7B9B6.C69F03CC@maynor.net> <001601c3ac6b$d53e1680$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FB7BC8A.CE03E344@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031116111510.00a2a100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031116154748.00a7f800@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031116160142.00a82440@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > E-mail just before you take off, or call. 510-642-5053 I will try to remember. But that's over a day away. I may forget. I could always go out to that area on a whim, though -- it wouldn't have to be on my way to that TTh class. My building is not all that far behind the statue shown in the webcam. Tomorrow is going to be busy, though. Lots of clutter in it. Probably no time for cavorting around on the drillfield. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 20:14:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAH2EQ6q032250 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:14:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 743A61E6032A; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:08:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 425CE1E60325 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:08:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A493B1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 21:01:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 23036 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 21:01:03 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAH1orh13913 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:50:53 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAH1o4eN019398 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:50:04 -0500 Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:50:53 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: confession time Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU All I know about a white dog is that there is one and that someone occasionally captures a view on camera. I think it is in or near Starkville. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 20:31:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAH2Vi6q032447 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:31:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8810B1E60329; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:25:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CAFB1E601C3 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:25:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A493E9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 21:18:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 23718 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 21:18:21 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAH2ILh16096 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 21:18:21 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:18:15 PST Message-ID: <20031117021815.85689.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:18:15 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Att: Bethany (re your coach) To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FB7FB10.5020403@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Rita Chapman wrote: Any single poem of mine > has > probably gone through 50 drafts over at least > several months. When you were in the process of formulating your style, who were the poets that influenced you most? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 20:35:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAH2Zo6q032491 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:35:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 097D81E6032C; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:29:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCD911E60329 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:29:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A493EA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 21:22:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 23875 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 21:22:26 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAH2MQh16568 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 21:22:26 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:22:21 PST Message-ID: <20031117022221.43424.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:22:21 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: White Dog Caper To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <97.40b82b7d.2ce95671@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Theo Groothof wrote: > Get with it Natalie. He ain't done a thing for me. > and I dare say there are > others who couldn't care less! Not everyone is receptive to his mystical influence. He has done wonders for me, and at quite a distance. Bear in mind that much of his mission is clandestine. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 20:37:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAH2bu6q032510 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:37:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7EF8E1E6032C; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:31:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C288B1E6032E for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:31:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E7131@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 21:24:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 24006 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 21:24:28 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAH2ORh16848 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 21:24:27 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:24:22 PST Message-ID: <20031117022422.97939.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:24:22 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Att: Bethany (re your coach) To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FB80A34.87DDAE0D@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > And Jackie knew of mine and was trying to hurt me. > That man needs to be > fired! Consider it done! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 20:43:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAH2hD6q032550 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:43:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CEF941E6032C; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:37:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A098E1E6032D for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:37:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A49408@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 21:29:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 24257 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 21:29:49 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAH2Tnh17538 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 21:29:49 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:29:44 PST Message-ID: <20031117022944.17754.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:29:44 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: White Dog Caper To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FB81A80.2A967137@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: Tomorrow is > going to be busy, > though. Lots of clutter in it. Probably no time > for cavorting around > on the drillfield. It must certainly appear to be a whimsical trip. He is canny, that one. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 20:48:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAH2mO6q032589 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:48:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BB9041E60329; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:42:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8959E1E6020C for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:42:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4943D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 21:35:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 24546 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 21:35:00 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAH2Z0h18227 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 21:35:00 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:34:55 PST Message-ID: <20031117023455.46814.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:34:55 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: The Red Shoes To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FB7BEEB.9F1E7B50@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Antoine Pettway, Alabama. > > "Red shoes became his trademark" > from: > http://www.rolltide.com/Mens%20Basketball/4998.asp We remembered him, but not his red shoes. How in the world did you remember that? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 21:22:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAH3Mw6q000630 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 21:22:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A92011E601C4; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 21:16:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 776DC1E601C1 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 21:16:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A494B2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 22:09:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 25606 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 22:09:34 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAH39Yh21212 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 22:09:34 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAH39Tv8009978 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 21:09:33 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 21:10:31 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1309316324.20031116211031@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Bonnie is indeed a recluse! In-Reply-To: <3FB80B66.BDA87C7E@maynor.net> References: <974804569.20031116145315@WordWrite.com> <3FB80B66.BDA87C7E@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 16, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> you do know >> about 250 people, if you’re at all average. > I would call that a very small number of people to know. Then you are above average. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 22:13:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAH4DH6q001100 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 22:13:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AF0EF1E601D3; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 22:07:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 613B01E6022B for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 22:07:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A49580@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 22:59:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 27746 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 22:59:45 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAH3xjh26412 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 22:59:45 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E727D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 22:59:44 -0500 Message-Id: <200311170359.hAH3xjh26412@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 22:59:44 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Dressing To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:42:51 -0500, bonniev wrote: >>I'd say it's more like biological imperative, i.e., set point. But, >>whatever. Blame the victim! --Karen > >As you've been fond of saying lately: "Are you insane?!" If one's >hormones determine a set point on weight, The set point or homeostasis metaphor (when it first came out, no claims to what's in Karen's mind) seemed to be an attempt to describe to people who didn't "get it" that it's not always possible to control weight through willpower. In other words, there may be pieces of weight gain/loss that aren't under a person's conscious control. > then why try the Atkins diet? Why try stomach stapling? The Atkins diet is a response to a theory about why the homeostasis effect, and other diet-related effects might occur, of course; and so is stomach- stapling, but responding to a different theory. Are you asking why some people try everything, including these extremes? Desperation, fueled in part by the notion other people "share" that the weight is caused by selfish, lazy overeating. And why is it that one's set point is say >160 pounds at age 30 during October and then goes up to 180 after the >holidays? Or goes up from 160 at age 25 to 300 at age 45? My own experience, fwiw, comes down on the side of insulin resistance, which worsens as the body becomes increasingly less effective at using insulin appropriately. It explains well the phenomena I have experienced, including steady weight gain in spite of carefully controlled diets when carbs were included, and steadily improved weight control and health without special care for calories when eating a low-carb diet and taking metformin. >A biological imperative determined by ones hormones is nonsense. A "biological imperative" is symbolic language; but a biolgical response that changes over time is not nonsense. Both menstruation and menopause, eg, are "biological imperatives determined by ones hormones". clo at sister's house - hey Rashmi, I'm in Delaware for a whole 12 hrs! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 22:39:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAH4dw6q001452 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 22:39:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4CD0B1E601E6; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 22:33:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAD851E601D9 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 22:33:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A497B8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 23:26:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 32220 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:26:33 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAH4QXh31935 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:26:33 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E7459@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 23:26:33 -0500 Message-Id: <200311170426.hAH4QXh31935@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:26:33 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: my trip to Phila To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:44:07 -0500, Karen Kay wrote: >On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:41:08 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander >wrote: >>It's not that I'm not avoiding driving to Phila, but I didn't need to be >>helped by suddenly "possibly postponed" events that we were trying to get >>last-minute publicity out for at work, and a snowstorm. Gah! > >So you're still going? > >Has it stopped snowing? > >Karen Yes, I went. No, it hadn't stopped snowing. It wasn't entirely the snow, which I will laugh at later in the season; it was the first snow of the year, and people always drive like idgits at first, till they get the hang of avoiding the brakes, not driving 70 on obvious ice, and the like. Plus, the plows and sanders were nowhere to be seen. I stopped three times for low visibility coupled w/ fatigue, and finally slept at a rest stop for an hr, arriving at the hotel at 1:30 am. Went straight to the room and straight to sleep, to be awakened by an automated dead-air call at 3, a putative "pizza delivery" at 3:20, and 6 more automated calls between 4 and 6:30 am. Not a good state to walk into a ten hr board meeting in! I am now recuperating at my sister's house, prior to an allday bd training session tomorrow, followed by a 5-6 hr drive back home and work tomorrow. Fun for me! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 22:50:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAH4oj6q001631 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 22:50:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A497D6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 23:36:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 32752 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:36:58 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAH4awh00877 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:36:58 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E74A2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 23:36:57 -0500 Message-Id: <200311170436.hAH4awh00877@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:36:57 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: my trip to Phila To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:19:11 -0500, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: >>-----Original Message----- >>From: English Language Discussion Group >>[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Carolyn Ostrander >>Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 2:41 PM >>To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>Subject: my trip to Phila >> >> >>It's not that I'm not avoiding driving to Phila, but I didn't >>need to be >>helped by suddenly "possibly postponed" events that we were >>trying to get >>last-minute publicity out for at work, and a snowstorm. Gah! >> >>clo >> > >In Philly speaks, where and when? > >alec > > Alec, at the Hampton Inn across the street from the Phila convention center, all weekend and tomorrow (Mon), but buried in Board business all day and with my sister in Delaware at night. If the trip had been more leisurely, I'd have contacted you to see if you'd be interested in a possible ftf. As it stands, the socializing I have done has been abt the politics of providing services to deaf kids, and working on sibling rapport. I'm exhausted! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 16 22:55:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAH4tp6q001683 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 22:55:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E18D31E601D9; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 22:49:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B25CE1E601E6 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 22:49:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A497EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 23:42:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 32934 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:42:26 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAH4gQh01414 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:42:26 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E74AC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 16 Nov 2003 23:42:26 -0500 Message-Id: <200311170442.hAH4gQh01414@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:42:26 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: middle-classed To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:18:12 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> - Natalie's question as to where it, and other hate orgs, is most active >> (is it the Midwest?) remains unanswered still. > >I had forgotten about this topic and haven't had time to it >anyway. It did occur to me not long after mentioning Missouri as what I >was thinking was the home of the KKK headquarters that I think I was >thinking of that CCC or CCCC group -- the Conservative Whatever. I >think it's the one that I did a websearch for a few months ago and found >headquartered somewhere like St. Louis. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Civilian Conservation Corps? They reforested the 40k state forest surrounding our camp in PA in the '30s. A crew got lost and camped in the field beside the camp. My fil and his cronies made their lives miserable, because they didn't like having their peaceful drinking - I mean hunting - trips interrupted by swarms of CCCers. They stuck it out there 6 or 8 yrs, though, and we have many momentos. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 01:58:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAH7wA6q003944 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 01:58:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 200001E601E8; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 01:52:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2D811E6019D for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 01:51:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E779E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 2:44:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 40658 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 02:44:45 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAH7Yjh16881 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 02:34:45 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAH7Yev8023343 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 01:34:43 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 01:35:43 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1597919968.20031117013543@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Oooh, freaky! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This appeared on a local list. Karen 1.) Key in the first 3 digits of your phone number into a calculator (do not key in your area code). 2.) Multiply by 80. 3.) Add 1. 4.) Multiply by 250. 5.) Plus last 4 digits of your phone number. 6.) Plus last 4 digits of your phone number again. 7.) Minus 250. 8.) Divide by 2. Is it your phone number? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 05:42:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAHBgb6q006264 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 05:42:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DB79E1E602B5; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 05:36:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA1F51E6027C for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 05:36:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A49D80@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 6:29:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 43953 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:29:10 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAHBTAh30473 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:29:10 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.137.124]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031117112905.WIDH13493.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:29:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB8B102.8A946111@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 05:29:06 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: confession time References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > All I know about a white dog is that there is one and that someone > occasionally captures a view on camera. I think it is in or near > Starkville. I am saddened at your loss. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 05:45:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAHBj86q006279 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 05:45:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1BB8C1E602B6; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 05:38:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E28321E602B5 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 05:38:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A49D73@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 6:31:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 43972 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:31:40 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAHBVeh30560 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:31:40 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.137.124]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031117113135.WIMT13493.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:31:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB8B198.A08BB2C0@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 05:31:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Red Shoes References: <20031117023455.46814.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > We remembered him, but not his red shoes. How in the > world did you remember that? I don't know. They just seemed . I mainly remember them lined up at the free-throw line, either when he was on the side of it or was the thrower. Remember them on tv, I mean -- from when we were playing them. They seemed . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 05:49:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAHBnH6q006340 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 05:49:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8461E1E602B6; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 05:43:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 574A81E602B5 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 05:43:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E790A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 6:35:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 44078 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:35:50 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAHBZoh30810 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:35:50 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.137.124]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031117113456.WIZD13493.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:34:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB8B261.EC1B56BD@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 05:34:57 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Bonnie is indeed a recluse! References: <974804569.20031116145315@WordWrite.com> <3FB80B66.BDA87C7E@maynor.net> <1309316324.20031116211031@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > >> about 250 people, if you’re at all average. > > > I would call that a very small number of people to know. > > Then you are above average. Life would be much simpler in some ways if you knew only 250 people -- like having parties, etc. I think that's about the number I invited to my last xmas party, but it was really, really hard limited myself to that few. At times I think I might not try to have another one ever again because every year there are more people I want to include, people I've gotten to know better because of working together in various organizations, etc. etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 05:51:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAHBpK6q006373 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 05:51:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E0AF01E602B8; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 05:45:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B31BF1E602B6 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 05:45:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A49D80@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 6:37:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 44118 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:37:53 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAHBbrh30941 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:37:53 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.137.124]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031117113748.WJID13493.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:37:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB8B30D.C2D394A6@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 05:37:49 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <200311170442.hAH4gQh01414@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >was thinking was the home of the KKK headquarters that I think I was > >thinking of that CCC or CCCC group -- the Conservative Whatever. I > >think it's the one that I did a websearch for a few months ago and found > >headquartered somewhere like St. Louis. > >-- > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > Civilian Conservation Corps? They reforested the 40k state forest No. I'm talking about a more recent organization -- or at least continuing to today -- I don't remember when they were founded, as in whether they were already around in the Depression. The CCC or CCCC I'm talking about is the KKKish group that our Gov-elect was pictured with. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 05:55:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAHBtL6q006401 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 05:55:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C554E1E602B8; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 05:49:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 920031E602B6 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 05:49:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A49D87@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 6:41:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 44182 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:41:54 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAHBfsh31089 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:41:54 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.137.124]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031117114149.WJVP13493.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:41:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB8B3FE.102B2A35@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 05:41:50 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed References: <200311170442.hAH4gQh01414@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FB8B30D.C2D394A6@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > whether they were already around in the Depression. The CCC or CCCC I'm > talking about is the KKKish group that our Gov-elect was pictured with. Council of Conservative Citizens: http://www.cofcc.org/ -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 05:55:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAHBtq6q006409 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 05:55:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0D24E1E602B6; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 05:49:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D359F1E60278 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 05:49:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A49D89@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 6:42:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 44200 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:42:26 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAHBgPh31151 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:42:25 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAHBgBl6029431 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 05:42:12 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 05:43:28 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <10010521952.20031117054328@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Bonnie is indeed a recluse! In-Reply-To: <3FB8B261.EC1B56BD@maynor.net> References: <974804569.20031116145315@WordWrite.com> <3FB80B66.BDA87C7E@maynor.net> <1309316324.20031116211031@WordWrite.com> <3FB8B261.EC1B56BD@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, November 17, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Life would be much simpler in some ways if you knew only 250 people -- > like having parties, etc. I don't know 250 people here I would invite to my home. I think you are above average, but part of this is because you have lived in Starkville for such a long time. I'm quite confident that when I have lived here as long as you have lived there, that I'll know 250 people I would invite over. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 06:14:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAHCE06q006582 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:14:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7C5E91E6032E; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:07:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E6471E60203 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:07:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A49DC0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 7:00:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 44424 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 07:00:33 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAHC0Vh04574 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 07:00:32 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAHC0T9u015580 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:00:29 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FB8B812.9010806@swbell.net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 05:59:14 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: Bethany (re your coach) References: <20031117021815.85689.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Rita Chapman wrote: > Any single poem of mine > >>has >>probably gone through 50 drafts over at least >>several months. >> > > > When you were in the process of formulating your > style, who were the poets that influenced you most? None in particular. Modern & Contemporary imagist and narrative poets in general. I wouldn't say that my style is fixed. In terms of subject matter, very influenced by Eavan Boland and Adrienne Rich (although I find Rich's poetry unreadable). I'm a big fan of T. S. Eliot and Mary Oliver. I'm beginning a study of Wallace Stevens at the request of my friend/priest, who wants to look at his poetry with somebody he thinks knows stuff about poetry (I told him I wouldn't go that far, but it would be fun to study Stevens with him). Stevens and William Carlos Williams had a conversation through poetry about the meaning of image; I'm more in agreement with Williams, and I think Stevens was too, but being sly. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 06:17:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAHCHV6q006648 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:17:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A49DA9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 7:03:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 44299 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 07:03:40 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAHBreh32053 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:53:40 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAHBqneN023438 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:52:51 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:53:38 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: confession time In-Reply-To: <3FB8B102.8A946111@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FB8B102.8A946111@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> All I know about a white dog is that there is one and that someone >> occasionally captures a view on camera. I think it is in or near >> Starkville. > >I am saddened at your loss. So it is too late. Thank you. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 06:23:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAHCNH6q006685 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:23:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4080E1E602B6; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:17:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E7EF1E60203 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:17:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A49DC7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 7:09:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 44395 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 07:09:49 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAHBxmh32466 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:59:48 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAHBwxeN024742 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:58:59 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:59:48 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Bonnie is indeed a recluse! In-Reply-To: <3FB8B261.EC1B56BD@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <974804569.20031116145315@WordWrite.com> <3FB80B66.BDA87C7E@maynor.net> <1309316324.20031116211031@WordWrite.com> <3FB8B261.EC1B56BD@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Life would be much simpler in some ways if you knew only 250 people -- >like having parties, etc. I think that's about the number I invited to Why do you have to invite everyone you know every time you have a party? Can you not have a dinner party for 12? (That's my max for dinner parties - though now that I have more space, I might increase it - if I ever have dining room furniture again). Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 06:37:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAHCbD6q006871 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:37:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E0A7E1E602B6; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:31:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B16FD1E60210 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:31:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A49DE5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 7:23:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 44965 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 07:23:45 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAHCNjh21654 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 07:23:45 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.137.124]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031117122339.QCXO6696.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 07:23:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB8BDCC.815AA77B@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:23:40 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: confession time References: <3FB8B102.8A946111@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >I am saddened at your loss. > > So it is too late. Thank you. I don't know that it is too late. There is perhaps hope. More later on the subject. Need to turn off the computer and get on with the day. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 06:39:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAHCdD6q006879 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:39:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DCBB61E6032E; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:33:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABB631E602B6 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:33:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A49DDB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 7:25:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 45000 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 07:25:45 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAHCPjh21745 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 07:25:45 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.137.124]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031117122539.QDKU6696.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 07:25:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB8BE44.6CB0A4@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:25:40 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Bonnie is indeed a recluse! References: <974804569.20031116145315@WordWrite.com> <3FB80B66.BDA87C7E@maynor.net> <1309316324.20031116211031@WordWrite.com> <3FB8B261.EC1B56BD@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Why do you have to invite everyone you know every time you have a party? I don't. I can't. Might be fun but would be impossible. > Can you not have a dinner party for 12? (That's my max for dinner parties That's not the kind of party I'm talking about. I do have dinner parties occasionally, but I find it more fun to have non-dinner parties. Fun and easier. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 07:01:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAHD1d6q007059 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 07:01:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D06881E6032E; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:55:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A24C71E602B7 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:55:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A49E07@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 7:48:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 45332 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 07:48:11 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAHCmBh23892 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 07:48:11 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E7975@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 7:48:10 -0500 Message-Id: <200311171248.hAHCmBh23892@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 07:48:11 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: middle-classed To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 05:41:50 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Natalie Maynor wrote: > >> whether they were already around in the Depression. The CCC or CCCC I'm >> talking about is the KKKish group that our Gov-elect was pictured with. > >Council of Conservative Citizens: > >http://www.cofcc.org/ > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Oh, of course - related to topic! I must be very tired. Actually, not breathing well, and waiting to see if I'm allergic to sister's dogs, affected by bad air quality in NE corridor, breathing bad things in stuffy hotel room (several people severely dizzy in bd mtg) or contracting something nasty, eg pneumonia from bd pres whom I was forced to sit right next to by her sense of what is due her. Note - it wasn't germs that make me itch to sit at opposite end of table. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 07:15:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAHDFu6q007239 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 07:15:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 42B961E6032E; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 07:09:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1472D1E602B7 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 07:09:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A49E1E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 8:02:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 45636 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 08:02:29 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAHD2Th25598 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 08:02:29 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E798F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 8:02:28 -0500 Message-Id: <200311171302.hAHD2Th25598@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 08:02:28 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Bonnie is indeed a recluse! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 05:43:28 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Monday, November 17, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> Life would be much simpler in some ways if you knew only 250 people -- >> like having parties, etc. > >I don't know 250 people here I would invite to my home. I know that many at my workplace whom I'd invite to this kind of party. Perhaps university life is like that? >I think you are above average, but part of this is because you have >lived in Starkville for such a long time. I'm quite confident that >when I have lived here as long as you have lived there, that I'll know >250 people I would invite over. I was told once that you could really know only about 500-600 people, names and faces, but I'm certain I'd know more if only they'd live forever. But Bonnie's reclusive and my sociable are the same in some ways. I'm only sure of seeing immediate family and in-office coworkers on a daily basis; other acquaintances, even when I feel close to them, are seen less often. Many people I'd invite to my home are people I don't have more contact with than Bonnie's tourists; I just feel friendly to them, not protective of space, and enjoy learning more about them and spending time with them. I feel close to probably a couple hundred people, enough to lend them money, take time off work to be with them, travel over a hundred miles to see them, make sure I keep up with life stuff and let them know mine, and ask for favors. The sister I've been visiting isn't that way, btw; she has many many rules abt what people can and should do on certain levels of relationship. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 07:20:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAHDK66q007283 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 07:20:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0C3CC1E6032E; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 07:13:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D12FB1E602B9 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 07:13:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E79A4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 8:06:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 45739 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 08:06:32 -0500 Received: from fe2.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAHD6Wh26043 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 08:06:32 -0500 Received: from [136.167.88.181] (HELO bc.edu) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP id 35013988 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 08:06:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB8C7D7.2060606@bc.edu> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 08:06:31 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Oooh, freaky! References: <1597919968.20031117013543@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <1597919968.20031117013543@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: >This appeared on a local list. > >Karen > >1.) Key in the first 3 digits of your phone number into a calculator (do not >key in your area code). >2.) Multiply by 80. >3.) Add 1. >4.) Multiply by 250. >5.) Plus last 4 digits of your phone number. >6.) Plus last 4 digits of your phone number again. >7.) Minus 250. >8.) Divide by 2. > > >Is it your phone number? > > Have you seen this one? OUT TO DINNER MATHEMATICS You will need pencil and paper for this one. This is pretty neat how it works out. DON'T CHEAT BY SCROLLING DOWN FIRST It takes less than a minute....... Work this out as you read. Don't cheat and read the bottom until you've worked through it! This is fun! 1. First of all, pick the number of times a week that you would like to have dinner out. (try for more than once but less than 10) 2. Multiply this number by 2 (Just to be bold) 3. Add 5. (Just because) 4. Multiply it by 50 - I'll wait while you get the calculator............ 5. If you have already had your birthday this year add 1753.... If you haven't, add 1752.......... 6.. Now subtract the four digit year that you were born. You should have a three digit number . The first digit of this was your original number (How many times you want to eat out each week.) The next two numbers are... YOUR AGE! (Oh YES, it IS!!!!!) THIS IS THE ONLY YEAR (2003) IT WILL EVER WORK, SO SPREAD IT AROUND WHILE IT Rita L. LASTS. IMPRESSIVE, ISN'T IT? -- Rita Leonard Information Technology Systems Services From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 07:20:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAHDKL6q007287 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 07:20:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2D8E71E602B9; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 07:14:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F09771E60208 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 07:14:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A49E39@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 8:06:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 45782 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 08:06:53 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAHD6rh26134 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 08:06:53 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 14:08:52 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id W5K0Q475; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 14:08:48 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031117140342.026bc328@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 14:06:45 +0100 Subject: Re: middle-classed In-Reply-To: <19510596570.20031114214519@WordWrite.com> References: <20031114164315.18543.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> <19510596570.20031114214519@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 21:45 14.11.2003 -0600 skrev Karen Kay: >On Friday, November 14, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >> Crosses were burned in Scotland in >> the centuries before mass communication and mass media >> to arouse neighboring "clans" to the dangers of >> encroaching enemies. Burning crosses could be seen >> for miles around in the Highlands, and from tors in >> the lowland/border marches. The citation given above >> does not mention these origins. > >Why should it? Fire has been used in many cultures for signalling >purposes, for a lot longer than it was in Scotland. Is there a direct >lineage? King Hakon the Good (935-61) set up a national defence system in Norway and required that there should be guarded signal fires ready all the way along the Norwegian coast. He probably built on local systems going back to before Norway was one single kingdom. Although Hakon was baptized in England he gave up trying to convert his countrymen so I don't think the signals were formed as crosses - rather as large bonfires. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 07:32:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAHDWv6q007366 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 07:32:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 30E341E6032F; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 07:26:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F27E91E602B9 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 07:26:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A49E6C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 8:19:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 46536 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 08:19:30 -0500 Received: from fe1.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAHDJTh28414 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 08:19:29 -0500 Received: from [136.167.88.181] (HELO bc.edu) by fe1.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP id 37635462 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 08:19:29 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB8CAE1.8060301@bc.edu> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 08:19:29 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Oooh, freaky! References: <1597919968.20031117013543@WordWrite.com> <3FB8C7D7.2060606@bc.edu> In-Reply-To: <3FB8C7D7.2060606@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: > THIS IS THE ONLY YEAR (2003) IT WILL EVER WORK, SO SPREAD IT AROUND > WHILE IT > > Rita L. <<======== > How did this get here? I am NOT using a Mac :-) > LASTS. IMPRESSIVE, ISN'T IT? > > > -- > > Rita Leonard > Information Technology Systems Services -- Rita Leonard Information Technology Systems Services From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 08:22:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAHEM26q007890 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 08:22:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A49F77@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 9:08:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 49108 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 09:08:11 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAHE8Bh03805 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 09:08:11 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E7B51@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 9:08:10 -0500 Message-Id: <200311171408.hAHE8Bh03805@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 09:08:11 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Bonnie is indeed a recluse! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 08:02:28 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 05:43:28 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: > >>On Monday, November 17, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>> Life would be much simpler in some ways if you knew only 250 people -- >>> like having parties, etc. >> >>I don't know 250 people here I would invite to my home. > >I know that many at my workplace whom I'd invite to this kind of party. >Perhaps university life is like that? I think duration in place is key. >Many >people I'd invite to my home are people I don't have more contact with than >Bonnie's tourists; I just feel friendly to them, not protective of space, >and enjoy learning more about them and spending time with them. Wow. >I feel close to probably a couple hundred people, enough to lend them >money, take time off work to be with them, travel over a hundred miles to > see them, make sure I keep up with life stuff and let them know mine, and > ask for favors. That is a *lot* of people. >The sister I've been visiting isn't that way, btw; she has many many rules >abt what people can and should do on certain levels of relationship. I guess I do, too. But of course, I think more of my relationships break those rules than keep them. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 09:09:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAHF9r6q008232 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 09:09:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4AF921E60212; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 09:03:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D0A71E6020F for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 09:03:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4A178@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 9:56:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 52693 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 09:56:24 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAHEkOh12079 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 09:46:24 -0500 Received: from ra.msstate.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.12.10/8.12.8/ra_1.2) with ESMTP; id hAHEkNTc025383 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 08:46:23 -0600 (CST) Received: (from maynor@localhost) by ra.msstate.edu (8.12.10/8.12.7/Submit) id hAHEkMvx025382 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 08:46:22 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 08:46:22 -0600 (CST) From: Natalie Maynor Message-Id: <200311171446.hAHEkMvx025382@ra.msstate.edu> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Interim Report Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I have seen neither hide nor hair of The White Dog this morning. I wonder whether he's been recaptured. --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 09:57:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAHFvN6q008910 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 09:57:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E95041E6021C; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 09:51:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EF981E60218 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 09:51:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4A3DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:43:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 59605 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:43:54 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAHFhrh26214 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:43:53 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 07:43:46 PST Message-ID: <20031117154346.68366.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 07:43:46 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: middle-classed To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200311171248.hAHCmBh23892@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > bd mtg) or contracting something nasty, eg > pneumonia from bd pres whom I > was forced to sit right next to by her sense of what > is due her. At first, I thought someone forced you to sit next to George W. Bush, the Bad President. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 10:12:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAHGCL6q009046 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:12:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AF3B11E6027D; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:06:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43EA71E6027A for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:06:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E8104@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:58:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 61557 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:58:51 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAHFwoQ30476 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:58:50 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hAHFwmkF011767 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:58:48 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hAHFwmXe011765 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:58:48 +0100 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:58:47 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: middle-classed Message-ID: <20031117155847.GA11759@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200311171248.hAHCmBh23892@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20031117154346.68366.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031117154346.68366.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber: = --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: = = > bd mtg) or contracting something nasty, eg = > pneumonia from bd pres whom I = > was forced to sit right next to by her sense of what = > is due her. = = At first, I thought someone forced you to sit next to = George W. Bush, the Bad President. = I kept reading it like the bd of bdsm. Possibly it was. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 13:01:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAHJ166q010893 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 13:01:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E35911E6027F; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:54:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D84B41E6027A for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:54:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E86F9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 13:47:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 77052 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 13:47:34 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAHIlNQ02893 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 13:47:23 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:47:15 PST Message-ID: <20031117184715.44279.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:47:15 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: my trip to Phila To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200311170426.hAH4QXh31935@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > I stopped three times for low visibility coupled w/ > fatigue, and finally > slept at a rest stop for an hr, arriving at the > hotel at 1:30 am. Went > straight to the room and straight to sleep, to be > awakened by an automated > dead-air call at 3, a putative "pizza delivery" at > 3:20, and 6 more > automated calls between 4 and 6:30 am. Not a good > state to walk into a ten > hr board meeting in! I am now recuperating at my > sister's house, prior to > an allday bd training session tomorrow, followed by > a 5-6 hr drive back > home and work tomorrow. clo, Please enlighten me, what are all these automated phone calls? This is unforgivable at a facility where you are paying good money to REST! I'm asking because I don't recall ever receiving one of these calls in a motel or hotel room. How are they allowed to through? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 13:08:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAHJ8C6q011027 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 13:08:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8F0AF1E6022E; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 13:01:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58E081E60281 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 13:01:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4AAF5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 13:54:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 77554 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 13:54:40 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAHIscQ03922 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 13:54:39 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:54:30 PST Message-ID: <20031117185430.14367.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:54:30 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: my trip to Phila To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200311170436.hAH4awh00877@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > As it stands, the socializing I have done has been > abt the politics of > providing services to deaf kids, and working on > sibling rapport. Many years ago, my aunt, Anna Cook Smith, taught at the Pennsylvania School for Deaf, I believe when it was located on Germantown Pike, in Germantown. What are the odds that I would find anything concerning her, if I were to check with them now? I think she had some fairly advanced teaching credentials. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 13:15:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAHJFU6q011096 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 13:15:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B310A1E60281; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 13:09:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B0F1E6022E for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 13:09:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E873D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 14:01:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 77895 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 14:01:58 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAHJ1uQ04983 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 14:01:57 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 14:01:55 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 14:01:34 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: my trip to Phila Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hAHJFU6q011096 I'd start with http://www.psd.org/frames.html BrP >>> lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM 11/17/03 01:54PM >>> --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > As it stands, the socializing I have done has been > abt the politics of > providing services to deaf kids, and working on > sibling rapport. Many years ago, my aunt, Anna Cook Smith, taught at the Pennsylvania School for Deaf, I believe when it was located on Germantown Pike, in Germantown. What are the odds that I would find anything concerning her, if I were to check with them now? I think she had some fairly advanced teaching credentials. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 14:55:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAHKtd6q012267 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 14:55:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 46BEE1E60236; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 14:49:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91A491E60233 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 14:49:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4AEFA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:42:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 87032 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:42:06 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAHKg3Q24790 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:42:04 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:41:56 PST Message-ID: <20031117204156.53151.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:41:56 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: my trip to Phila To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thank you, BrP! --- Paul Barfoot wrote: > I'd start with > http://www.psd.org/frames.html > > BrP > > > > >>> lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM 11/17/03 01:54PM >>> > --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > As it stands, the socializing I have done has > been > > abt the politics of > > providing services to deaf kids, and working on > > sibling rapport. > > Many years ago, my aunt, Anna Cook Smith, taught at > the Pennsylvania School for Deaf, I believe when it > was located on Germantown Pike, in Germantown. What > are the odds that I would find anything concerning > her, if I were to check with them now? I think she > had some fairly advanced teaching credentials. > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 15:13:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAHLD06q012471 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:13:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F30461E60237; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:06:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C80B61E60283 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:06:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4B012@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:59:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 89593 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:59:27 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAHKxHQ29789 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:59:22 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.251]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031117205911.OUEY6276.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:59:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB9369D.1DEE5470@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 14:59:09 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Two Matters Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (1) The White Dog was alive and well and lounging around near the bakery late this morning. (2) Would it be out of the question for a 58-yr-old woman to have a baby in 1824? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 15:28:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAHLSd6q012580 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:28:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EC87E1E602BC; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:22:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBCE71E602BA for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:22:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4B0BE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:15:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 91284 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:15:06 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAHLF5Q01941 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:15:05 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:15:04 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:14:41 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Two Matters Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hAHLSd6q012580 It seems highly unlikely. I'd sooner believe that the woman's d.o.b. (or the baby's) was written incorrectly or that you have a case of two different women with the same name. BrP >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 11/17/03 03:59PM >>> (2) Would it be out of the question for a 58-yr-old woman to have a baby in 1824? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 15:39:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAHLdZ6q012675 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:39:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 36C661E60283; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:33:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2CCA1E60231 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:33:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4B12E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:25:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 92147 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:25:51 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAHLPoQ04187 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:25:50 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 13:25:43 PST Message-ID: <20031117212543.65048.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 13:25:43 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Two Matters To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FB9369D.1DEE5470@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > (1) The White Dog was alive and well and lounging > around near the bakery > late this morning. The White Dog knows where his bread is buttered. > > (2) Would it be out of the question for a 58-yr-old > woman to have a baby > in 1824? Good heavens, I hope so. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 15:45:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAHLju6q012753 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:45:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0BC681E60237; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:39:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E44DD1E60229 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:39:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4B14F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:32:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 92779 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:32:23 -0500 Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAHLWMQ05851 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:32:23 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HOI008XTMHU2C@mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:32:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.76] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:27:40 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:27:40 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Two Matters To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <8376e5830ee2.830ee28376e5@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > (2) Would it be out of the question for a 58-yr-old > > woman to have a baby > > in 1824? > > Good heavens, I hope so. I think I have an old (pre-Assisted Reproductive Technologies) Guinness Book of World Records at home. But even today the record is 65, 63 until just recently -- both assisted. I think it is safe to say that 58 was pretty much out of the question. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 16:42:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAHMgp6q013418 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:42:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2F6CE1E60243; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:36:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9788E1E60285 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:36:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4B376@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:29:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 97956 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:29:15 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAHMTEQ16316 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:29:15 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 14:29:07 PST Message-ID: <20031117222907.38258.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 14:29:07 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Quack Q To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From another "list". "A duck's quack does not echo." Can this be true? Discuss, please. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 16:54:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAHMsM6q013546 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:54:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 833A41E60243; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:48:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 598AB1E600C6 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:48:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4B3CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:40:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 98764 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:40:49 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAHMelQ17927 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:40:47 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-181.gwi.net [216.195.156.181]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAHMejAr092207 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:40:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031117173706.00b58358@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:41:08 -0500 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: bonniev Subject: Survivor All-Star Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The next Survivor will have its initial telecast immediately following the Super Bowl on February 1st. There will be 18 contestants, up from the usual 16. The cast has not been officially announced but is rumored to include Colby Donaldson (the Texas cowboy who let the Knoxville nurse win the million), Susan Hawk (the Wisconsin truck drive from episode one), Richard Hatch (the chubby gay guy who won the first million dollars), Jerri Manthey (the nice body with the cowboy hat), Rudy Bosch (the elderly Navy Seal), and our beloved Rupert Boneham from the Survivor that some of us are currently watching. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 16:58:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAHMwv6q013571 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:58:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 30A281E60285; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:52:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C9721E60243 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:52:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4B3E7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:45:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 99086 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:45:24 -0500 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.142.130]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAHMjOQ18545 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:45:24 -0500 Received: from c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net ([24.5.188.31] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ALs7h-0003zd-Bu for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:45:34 -0500 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031117143518.03bc1b10@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 14:43:43 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Quack Q In-Reply-To: <20031117222907.38258.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber writes, >Can this be true? Discuss, please. You have to ask something more interesting than "Can this be true?" if it's already answered in Snopes: http://www.snopes.com/critters/wild/duckecho.htm Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 17:24:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAHNOt6q013922 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:24:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6A44A1E602BE; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:18:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 316471E602BB for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:18:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4B4AA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:11:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 100740 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:11:23 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAHNBNQ21698 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:11:23 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAHNBGk9005504 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:11:18 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000e01c3ad60$20026780$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031117222907.38258.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Quack Q Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:11:25 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >From another "list". > > "A duck's quack does not echo." > > Can this be true? Discuss, please. > > I don't know about that, but I had a strange experience the other day. The phone rang. I said hello. A voice said hello. Silence. I said Who's there? a voice said Who's there>? I said Speak up. A voice said Speak up. Then I recognized it was my own voice echoing back. How dey do dat? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 17:34:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAHNYS6q014125 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:34:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 336DC1E60286; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:28:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 014651E6024E for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:28:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4B506@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:20:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 101373 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:20:56 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAHNKuQ22862 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:20:56 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.251]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031117232051.SLDM21803.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:20:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB957D4.E5A8D73B@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:20:52 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two Matters References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: > > > It seems highly unlikely. I'd sooner believe that the woman's d.o.b. (or the baby's) was written incorrectly or that you have a case of two different women with the same name. It strikes me as unlikely also, but I've found no records anywhere suggesting that all these children aren't hers. They're in various sources. (The below is from one of my charts.) ********** 5. CHRISTINA2 SWITTENBERG (JOHN1)11 was born Abt. 1766, and died 15 December 1859. She married ANDREW HALLMAN11, son of JACOB HALLMAN. He was born Abt. 1763, and died 10 March 1852. Children of CHRISTINA SWITTENBERG and ANDREW HALLMAN are: i. JACOB3 HALLMAN. (1798) ii. MARY HALLMAN. (1800) iii. SAMUEL HALLMAN. (1802) iv. ELIZABETH HALLMAN. (1812) v. WILLIAM HALLMAN. (1816) vi. GEORGE HALLMAN. (1818) vii. DAVID HALLMAN. (1820) viii. PATSY HALLMAN. (1824) ********** -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 17:36:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAHNaE6q014138 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:36:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3D0411E602BB; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:29:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0771E1E60286 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:29:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4B4F7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:22:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 101529 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:22:42 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAHNMgQ23315 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:22:42 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.251]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031117232237.SMDJ21803.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:22:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB9583E.EE68DF7F@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:22:38 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two Matters References: <8376e5830ee2.830ee28376e5@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > I think I have an old (pre-Assisted Reproductive Technologies) Guinness Book of World Records at home. But even today the record is 65, 63 until just recently -- both assisted. I think it is safe to say that 58 was pretty much out of the question. I need to go back to SC to do some more cemetery sleuthing. Maybe there are answers there. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 17:39:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAHNdo6q014172 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:39:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 92D971E60286; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:33:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 603301E6024E for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:33:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E987A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:26:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 102024 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:26:10 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAHNQAQ23827 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:26:10 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.251]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031117232605.SOPA21803.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:26:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB9590E.DA100057@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:26:06 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor All-Star References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031117173706.00b58358@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > The next Survivor will have its initial telecast immediately following the > Super Bowl on February 1st. Isn't it hard to predict exactly when a fb game will end? That strikes me as a bad choice of time for something as important as Survivor. I want to know precisely when to turn on the tv! > and our beloved Rupert Boneham from the Survivor that some of us are > currently watching. I'll be glad when Thursday gets here. It's gonna be interesting to see what happens. I think Darrah may be in deep doodoo because of that little spat with Krista at Tribal Council last week. I bet Krista thinks that that vote against her was Darrah's vote, when it was not. I hate things like that. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 17:43:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAHNhB6q014200 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:43:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 612381E60286; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:36:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D4741E6024E for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:36:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E9865@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:29:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 102146 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:29:39 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAHNTdQ24152 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:29:39 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.251]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031117232934.SRDS21803.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:29:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB959DF.1CEAE5C2@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:29:35 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two Matters References: <3FB957D4.E5A8D73B@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > i. JACOB3 HALLMAN. (1798) > ii. MARY HALLMAN. (1800) > iii. SAMUEL HALLMAN. (1802) > iv. ELIZABETH HALLMAN. (1812) > v. WILLIAM HALLMAN. (1816) > vi. GEORGE HALLMAN. (1818) > vii. DAVID HALLMAN. (1820) > viii. PATSY HALLMAN. (1824) I meant to add that that long gap between Samuel and Elizabeth also seems odd. If I saw nothing but this list, I would guess that there were two different mothers involved -- one for the first three children, then another for the rest. But the records don't indicate that. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 17:58:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAHNwk6q014354 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:58:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DE95D1E60286; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:52:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACC391E6023D for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:52:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4B595@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:45:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 102890 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:45:14 -0500 Received: from heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net (heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.189]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAHNjEQ25685 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:45:14 -0500 Received: from dpc693545081.direcpc.com ([69.35.45.81] helo=earthlink.net) by heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1ALt3P-0003vP-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:45:13 -0800 Message-ID: <410-2200311117234517778@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: dormarbil@earthlink.net X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2003.2.92.0 (Windows) From: "Doris Smith" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Re: Two Matters Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:45:17 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-ELNK-Trace: 0f572b91323e03d8e9ef466adc09f07e7e972de0d01da9400f4f2a0db2f4a43f534331da54b3f3db350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU There could have been several still-births during those gaps in birth dates, or children who died in infancy. Often those don't show up in the records. Doris Smith dormarbil@earthlink.net Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. > [Original Message] > From: Natalie Maynor > To: > Date: 11/17/2003 5:29:58 PM > Subject: Re: Two Matters > > Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > i. JACOB3 HALLMAN. (1798) > > ii. MARY HALLMAN. (1800) > > iii. SAMUEL HALLMAN. (1802) > > iv. ELIZABETH HALLMAN. (1812) > > v. WILLIAM HALLMAN. (1816) > > vi. GEORGE HALLMAN. (1818) > > vii. DAVID HALLMAN. (1820) > > viii. PATSY HALLMAN. (1824) > > I meant to add that that long gap between Samuel and Elizabeth also > seems odd. If I saw nothing but this list, I would guess that there > were two different mothers involved -- one for the first three children, > then another for the rest. But the records don't indicate that. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 18:15:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI0Fj6q014534 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:15:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 518FE1E60252; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:09:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20D3C1E6024F for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:09:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4B5DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:02:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 103560 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:02:13 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI02DQ27293 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:02:13 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-181.gwi.net [216.195.156.181]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAI02BGn050951 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:02:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031117190103.00bb4ea0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:02:35 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Survivor All-Star In-Reply-To: <3FB9590E.DA100057@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031117173706.00b58358@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > The next Survivor will have its initial telecast immediately following the > > Super Bowl on February 1st. > >Isn't it hard to predict exactly when a fb game will end? That strikes >me as a bad choice of time for something as important as Survivor. I >want to know precisely when to turn on the tv! > -- Natalie CBS thinks it's a win-win situation. Real Survivor fans end up watching the end of the football game and the after show. Real football fans end up staying tuned for Survivor. They claim it worked well the last time they did it that way. But I agree with your concerns. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 18:21:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI0Lx6q014592 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:21:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B5C811E602BB; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:15:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84F851E60252 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:15:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4B5E9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:08:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 103798 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:08:27 -0500 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI08RQ27818 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:08:27 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.c.1c41ad7d (18707) for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:08:13 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:08:13 EST Subject: Re: confession time To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/17/2003 6:03:44 AM, dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes: Natalie wrote: "I am saddened at your loss". > >So it is too late. Thank you. > >Bethany > Giggling!!! Theo ;-} From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 18:27:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI0Ru6q014692 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:27:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 671F31E60255; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:21:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 352861E6024F for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:21:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4B606@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:14:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 104281 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:14:23 -0500 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI0ENQ29059 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:14:23 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.127.34a92956 (18707) for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:14:07 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <127.34a92956.2ceabe4f@aol.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:14:07 EST Subject: Re: Bonnie is indeed a recluse! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/17/2003 6:10:11 AM, dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes: >Can you not have a dinner party for 12? (That's my max for dinner parties > Please don't feel bad, Natalie. I've never had more than 2 people over for dinner at my newest address here in Idaho, and I'm still happy! :-} Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 18:35:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI0ZF6q014755 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:35:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DDE2E1E60255; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:28:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF03C1E6024F for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:28:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4B621@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:21:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 104472 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:21:43 -0500 Received: from imo-m01.mx.aol.com (imo-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.4]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI0LhQ29768 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:21:43 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.14c.26e5b4c3 (18707) for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:21:28 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <14c.26e5b4c3.2ceac008@aol.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:21:28 EST Subject: Re: Interim Report To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/17/2003 8:56:44 AM, maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU writes: >I have seen neither hide nor hair of The White Dog this >morning. I wonder whether he's been recaptured. > --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) > Poor woman, you must be saddened.... Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 18:35:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI0ZX6q014759 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:35:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1A71C1E60252; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:29:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC8521E6024F for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:29:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E9956@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:22:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 104476 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:21:53 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI0LqQ29775 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:21:52 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAI0Lmv8011794 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:21:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:22:56 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1259286020.20031117182256@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Oooh, freaky! In-Reply-To: <3FB8C7D7.2060606@bc.edu> References: <1597919968.20031117013543@WordWrite.com> <3FB8C7D7.2060606@bc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Karen Kay wrote: >>This appeared on a local list. >> >>Karen >> >>1.) Key in the first 3 digits of your phone number into a calculator (do not >>key in your area code). >>2.) Multiply by 80. >>3.) Add 1. >>4.) Multiply by 250. >>5.) Plus last 4 digits of your phone number. >>6.) Plus last 4 digits of your phone number again. >>7.) Minus 250. >>8.) Divide by 2. >> >> >>Is it your phone number? Duh. I should never post again. This appeared as a response on the same list: "Ahem -- of course it's your phone number! This boils down to taking the first 3 digits of your phone number, multiplying them by 10,000, then adding the last 4 digits of the phone number." Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 18:42:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI0g06q014853 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:42:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 695691E60291; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:35:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33BF51E60286 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:35:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4B625@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:28:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 104670 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:28:12 -0500 Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI0SCQ30273 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:28:12 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.126.34aec281 (18707) for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:27:50 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <126.34aec281.2ceac186@aol.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:27:50 EST Subject: Re: Two Matters To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/17/2003 3:00:30 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >(1) The White Dog was alive and well and lounging around near the bakery >late this morning. > Probably because he's hungry? Sorry. just asking! Theo. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 18:42:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI0gg6q014866 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:42:42 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D33CE1E60255; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:36:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A48E61E60252 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:36:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E9977@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:29:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 104426 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:29:10 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI0J9Q29512 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:19:09 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAI0IIhC019165 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:18:19 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:19:07 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Quack Q In-Reply-To: <20031117222907.38258.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031117222907.38258.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >From another "list". > >"A duck's quack does not echo." > >Can this be true? Discuss, please. So are you a BigA survivor!?! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 18:45:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI0j36q014928 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:45:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DBEE21E602BF; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:38:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9D6F1E602BE for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:38:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4B64B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:31:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 104471 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:31:31 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI0LUQ29753 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:21:30 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAI0KehC021249 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:20:40 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:21:30 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Bonnie is indeed a recluse! In-Reply-To: <127.34a92956.2ceabe4f@aol.com> Message-ID: References: <127.34a92956.2ceabe4f@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Theo Groothof wrote: >Please don't feel bad, Natalie. I've never had more than 2 people over for >dinner at my newest address here in Idaho, and I'm still happy! :-} I did not know they had dinner parties in Idaho. How long has this been going on? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 18:45:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI0j46q014931 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:45:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B9E9B1E60291; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:38:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85A9C1E60286 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:38:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E9963@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:31:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 104915 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:31:32 -0500 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI0VVQ30809 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:31:31 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.25.40e6fc01 (18707) for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:31:21 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <25.40e6fc01.2ceac258@aol.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:31:20 EST Subject: Re: Quack Q To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/17/2003 4:30:17 PM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: >From another "list". > >"A duck's quack does not echo." > I don't see why not, but what do "I" know! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 18:52:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI0qj6q015021 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:52:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B813D1E60291; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:46:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 821871E60255 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:46:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4B69D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:39:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 104726 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:39:13 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI0TDQ30343 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:29:13 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAI0SNhC028664 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:28:23 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:29:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: refrigerator stuff Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Several days ago, my ice-maker conked out. It was clear that my fairly old refrigerator probably needed attention. I waited a few days for it to heal itself (it did not), then last night gave it the ice cream test (my freezer thermometer had not surfaced yet since my move). It failed. So today, I compared new and repair prices and opted for a new refrigerator. It is to be delivered on Wed. I also bought a new thermometer. Both the freezer and the refrigerator sides register about 5 degrees above the high end of the desirable range. My question: should I eat the food I have on hand that appears to be okay? I bought a large bag of ice to keep the ice cream company - it seems okay but a little soft. Now I know why my milk and oj have gone sour a few days before they should. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 19:04:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI14N6q015171 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:04:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7041F1E60253; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:58:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4067F1E6024D for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:58:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4B6D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:50:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 106142 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:50:50 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f13.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI0ooQ00638 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:50:50 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:50:44 -0800 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 00:50:44 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: refrigerator stuff Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:50:44 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Nov 2003 00:50:44.0886 (UTC) FILETIME=[FFA9BB60:01C3AD6D] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: "Bethany K. Dumas" >>Several days ago, my ice-maker conked out. It was clear that my fairly >old refrigerator probably needed attention. I waited a few days for it to >heal itself (it did not), This was a mistake. Rather than waiting, you should have been praying for an intercession. Faith heals. _________________________________________________________________ Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $26.95. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 19:17:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI1Hg6q015294 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:17:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AC0181E602BB; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:11:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 309641E6025C for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:11:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4B712@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:04:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 106859 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:04:09 -0500 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI149Q02151 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:04:09 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.3c.37ccc002 (4206) for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:03:35 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <3c.37ccc002.2ceac9e7@aol.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:03:35 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] refrigerator stuff To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/17/2003 6:39:34 PM Central Standard Time, dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes: << Both the freezer and the refrigerator sides register about 5 degrees above the high end of the desirable range. My question: should I eat the food I have on hand that appears to be okay? >> If it's over 40 deg. F, no! Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 19:19:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI1Jp6q015306 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:19:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C2AD81E602BE; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:13:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90D7B1E6025C for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:13:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E9A4D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:05:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 106971 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:05:32 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI15WQ02345 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:05:32 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.251]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031118010527.GUHQ14203.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:05:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB97058.EA3A9A7@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:05:28 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two Matters References: <410-2200311117234517778@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Smith wrote: > > There could have been several still-births during those gaps in birth > dates, or children who died in infancy. Often those don't show up in the > records. Good point. But do you really think she kept having babies so far up into her fifties? I notice that she did live well into her nineties, but I don't know that that has anything to do with the length of one's reproductive years. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 19:24:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI1O56q015375 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:24:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 522E01E602BE; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:17:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA6A1E602BB for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:17:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4B750@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:10:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 107190 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:10:32 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI1AWQ02763 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:10:32 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.251]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031118011027.GWFP14203.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:10:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB97184.29A82860@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:10:28 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Bonnie is indeed a recluse! References: <127.34a92956.2ceabe4f@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > >Can you not have a dinner party for 12? (That's my max for dinner parties > > > Please don't feel bad, Natalie. I've never had more than 2 people over for > dinner at my newest address here in Idaho, and I'm still happy! :-} I don't feel bad. I have dinner parties from time to time. I prefer to have only six, however, since more than that makes my table too crowded. In fact, my ideal number is five, counting me, since that way I can leave the table folded at its 2/3 position, which makes everything more comfortable, imho. If I have more than eight, I definitely can't have it a sit-at-the-table meal. The luncheon I had a while back had to be buffet and find somewhere to sit since I had something like fifteen people. I've done that kind of thing for dinners occasionally but don't really like it. I'd rather go on and have a big non-dinner party. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 19:25:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI1PB6q015390 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:25:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2532E1E602BB; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:18:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB1E71E6025C for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:18:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4B752@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:11:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 107215 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:11:38 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI1BcQ02842 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:11:38 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.251]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031118011129.GWVE14203.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:11:29 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB971C3.93ADF008@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:11:31 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two Matters References: <126.34aec281.2ceac186@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > >(1) The White Dog was alive and well and lounging around near the bakery > >late this morning. > > > Probably because he's hungry? Sorry. just asking! It is generally assumed that that's why he chooses certain places at certain times of day. The bakery is not far from one of the cafeteria doors. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 19:27:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI1RJ6q015415 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:27:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A748C1E602BB; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:21:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B4F1E6025C for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:21:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4B752@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:13:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 107337 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:13:47 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI1DkQ03093 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:13:46 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAI1Df5Z006811 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:13:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:14:49 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <14152545.20031117191449@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Two Matters In-Reply-To: <3FB97058.EA3A9A7@maynor.net> References: <410-2200311117234517778@earthlink.net> <3FB97058.EA3A9A7@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, November 17, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Good point. But do you really think she kept having babies so far up > into her fifties? Yes. Have a first birth that late is astronomically unlikely, but having an additional birth at that age is merely unlikely. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 19:28:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI1Sn6q015440 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:28:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 07B841E602BB; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:22:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8D9D1E6025C for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:22:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4B755@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:15:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 107380 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:15:16 -0500 Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (imo-r05.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI1FGQ03252 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:15:16 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.123.27b7cf8a (4552) for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:15:09 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <123.27b7cf8a.2ceacc9d@aol.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:15:09 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Two Matters To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/17/2003 7:11:51 PM Central Standard Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << It is generally assumed that that's why he chooses certain places at certain times of day. The bakery is not far from one of the cafeteria doors. >> He's a dog after my own heart! I can't think of any food I like more than a fresh French roll with butter or an Asiago cheese bagel with sun-dried tomato cream cheese. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 19:40:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI1eN6q015536 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:40:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7C3A71E602BE; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:34:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A6251E602BB for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:34:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4B774@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:26:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 107861 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:26:50 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI1QoQ04339 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:26:50 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.251]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031118012645.KSIU14456.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:26:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB97557.A517CC9A@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:26:47 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two Matters References: <410-2200311117234517778@earthlink.net> <3FB97058.EA3A9A7@maynor.net> <14152545.20031117191449@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > On Monday, November 17, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Good point. But do you really think she kept having babies so far up > > into her fifties? > > Yes. Have a first birth that late is astronomically unlikely, but > having an additional birth at that age is merely unlikely. I just found them in the 1850 census, and they (the parents -- Andrew and Christina) were still married, he at 87, she at 77. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 19:41:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI1fw6q015572 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:41:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BDF7B1E602BB; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:35:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F97D1E60250 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:35:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E9AB0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:28:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 107956 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:28:26 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI1SPQ04564 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:28:25 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAI1SE5Z023413 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:28:25 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:29:21 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <102035277.20031117192921@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Two Matters In-Reply-To: <3FB97557.A517CC9A@maynor.net> References: <410-2200311117234517778@earthlink.net> <3FB97058.EA3A9A7@maynor.net> <14152545.20031117191449@WordWrite.com> <3FB97557.A517CC9A@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, November 17, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> >> On Monday, November 17, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> > Good point. But do you really think she kept having babies so far up >> > into her fifties? >> >> Yes. Have a first birth that late is astronomically unlikely, but >> having an additional birth at that age is merely unlikely. > I just found them in the 1850 census, and they (the parents -- Andrew > and Christina) were still married, he at 87, she at 77. Having a child at 77 is astronomically unlikely. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 19:42:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI1gg6q015587 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:42:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 92DCF1E602C0; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:36:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AEC21E602BF for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:36:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4B782@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:29:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 108001 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:29:09 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI1T9Q04650 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:29:09 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.251]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031118012904.KTJN14456.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:29:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB975E2.2FCC6DF4@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:29:06 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two Matters References: <410-2200311117234517778@earthlink.net> <3FB97058.EA3A9A7@maynor.net> <14152545.20031117191449@WordWrite.com> <3FB97557.A517CC9A@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > I just found them in the 1850 census, and they (the parents -- Andrew > and Christina) were still married, he at 87, she at 77. Hmm. That makes her born c1773 instead of c1766 -- that's significant. It would have made her just over 50, not 58. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 19:45:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI1jG6q015618 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:45:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7C0661E602BE; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:38:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B7061E602BB for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:38:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4B7A3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:31:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 108079 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:31:43 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI1VhQ04882 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:31:43 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAI1VRl6015719 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:31:28 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:32:49 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <148893848.20031117193249@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Two Matters In-Reply-To: <3FB975E2.2FCC6DF4@maynor.net> References: <410-2200311117234517778@earthlink.net> <3FB97058.EA3A9A7@maynor.net> <14152545.20031117191449@WordWrite.com> <3FB97557.A517CC9A@maynor.net> <3FB975E2.2FCC6DF4@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, November 17, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Natalie Maynor wrote: >> I just found them in the 1850 census, and they (the parents -- Andrew >> and Christina) were still married, he at 87, she at 77. > Hmm. That makes her born c1773 instead of c1766 -- that's significant. > It would have made her just over 50, not 58. And thus more likely... Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 20:00:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI20o6q015863 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:00:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B84681E602BB; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:54:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88EED1E60250 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:54:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4B7D3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:47:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 108262 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:47:16 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI1bGQ05586 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:37:16 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAI1aLhC005169 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:36:24 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:37:00 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: refrigerator stuff In-Reply-To: <3c.37ccc002.2ceac9e7@aol.com> Message-ID: References: <3c.37ccc002.2ceac9e7@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Evelyn Duncan wrote: >If it's over 40 deg. F, no! It's just above 40. I've BEEN eating food from it. What about the freezer? Everything but the ice cream seems solidly frozen. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 20:04:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI24p6q015928 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:04:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8D3A41E60250; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:57:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BECE1E60025 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:57:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4B7D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:50:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 108699 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:50:14 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI1oEQ07479 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:50:14 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAI1oA5Z017481 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:50:13 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:51:18 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <784476381.20031117195118@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: refrigerator stuff In-Reply-To: References: <3c.37ccc002.2ceac9e7@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, November 17, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > It's just above 40. I've BEEN eating food from it. What about the freezer? > Everything but the ice cream seems solidly frozen. I say leave it in there till the new fridge is delivered. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 20:13:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI2D16q015970 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:13:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ACAF01E60294; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:06:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 703351E60250 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:06:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4B801@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:59:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 109076 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:59:27 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI1xRQ08753 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:59:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.251]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031118015922.QBPH1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:59:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB97CFB.20684B52@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:59:23 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two Matters References: <410-2200311117234517778@earthlink.net> <3FB97058.EA3A9A7@maynor.net> <14152545.20031117191449@WordWrite.com> <3FB97557.A517CC9A@maynor.net> <102035277.20031117192921@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > I just found them in the 1850 census, and they (the parents -- Andrew > > and Christina) were still married, he at 87, she at 77. > > Having a child at 77 is astronomically unlikely. Indeed. There is no evidence that they were still producing children after 1824. But there is strong evidence that they were still married, meaning that it was unlikely that those last few of their children were by a different mother. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 20:16:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI2GO6q016061 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:16:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DB8C81E60295; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:10:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E8C1E60250 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:10:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4B7F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:02:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 108784 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:02:51 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI1qpQ07846 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:52:51 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAI1puhC024455 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:51:59 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:52:46 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: refrigerator stuff In-Reply-To: <784476381.20031117195118@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <3c.37ccc002.2ceac9e7@aol.com> <784476381.20031117195118@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >I say leave it in there till the new fridge is delivered. May I have some ice cream? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 20:18:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI2IM6q016080 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:18:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5F7181E60250; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:12:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30C4A1E60025 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:12:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4B815@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:04:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 109361 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:04:49 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI24UQ09750 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:04:30 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.251]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031118020425.QDXM1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:04:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB97E2B.4F927042@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:04:27 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: refrigerator stuff References: <3c.37ccc002.2ceac9e7@aol.com> <784476381.20031117195118@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > May I have some ice cream? Yes. Think about drinking clabbered milk. Clabbered icecream will be just fine. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 20:25:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI2Pq6q016201 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:25:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 441961E602BB; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:19:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 128BD1E60295 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:19:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4B81F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:12:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 109236 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:12:19 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI22JQ09413 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:02:19 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAI21ShC002689 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:01:29 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:02:18 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: refrigerator stuff In-Reply-To: <784476381.20031117195118@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <3c.37ccc002.2ceac9e7@aol.com> <784476381.20031117195118@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I should mention that since my cooking is still minimal to nonexistent, I have not at any time had uncooked meat in my refrigerator. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 20:32:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI2Wi6q016267 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:32:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1CD981E6028F; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:26:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE04E1E60250 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:26:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4B855@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:19:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 109920 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:19:11 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI2JAQ11392 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:19:11 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-66-56-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.66.56.217]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAI2J99u028474 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:19:09 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FB98148.6080306@swbell.net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:17:44 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: refrigerator stuff References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marty Rosen wrote: >> From: "Bethany K. Dumas" > > >>> Several days ago, my ice-maker conked out. It was clear that my fairly >> >> old refrigerator probably needed attention. I waited a few days for it to >> heal itself (it did not), > > > This was a mistake. Rather than waiting, you should have been praying for > an intercession. Faith heals. I will do that forthwith for my expiring dishwasher. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 20:37:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI2bN6q016306 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:37:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B1D511E602BE; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:31:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C6841E602BB for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:31:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4B866@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:23:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 109664 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:23:03 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI2D3Q10816 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:13:03 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAI2CDhC011533 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:12:13 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:13:02 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: refrigerator stuff In-Reply-To: <3FB97E2B.4F927042@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3c.37ccc002.2ceac9e7@aol.com> <784476381.20031117195118@WordWrite.com> <3FB97E2B.4F927042@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> May I have some ice cream? > >Yes. Think about drinking clabbered milk. Clabbered icecream will be >just fine. Thank you. A couple of nights ago, I had some plain yoghurt. After I ate it, I was still hungry, so I put some cereal and skim milk in the same bowl and ate that. The cereal/milk combo tasted a bit sour, but I thought it was because the yoghurt had been in the bowl. Then the next morning, I ruined a bowl of cereal and banana slices by pouring clabbered milk on it before I realized the milk was . I am bring very careful to smell everything now. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 20:47:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI2lt6q016419 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:47:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 910B81E602BE; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:41:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E8291E602BB for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:41:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4B882@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:34:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 110534 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:34:21 -0500 Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI2YLQ14201 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:34:21 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.17c.234a8bb0 (2612) for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:34:07 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <17c.234a8bb0.2ceadf20@aol.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:34:08 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] refrigerator stuff To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/17/2003 7:47:37 PM Central Standard Time, dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes: << It's just above 40. I've BEEN eating food from it. What about the freezer? Everything but the ice cream seems solidly frozen. >> The "Danger Zone" is from 40 - 140 deg. F. In that range, bacteria will multiply Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 20:54:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI2sL6q016503 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:54:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E101C1E602BE; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:48:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA63A1E602BB for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:48:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4B8A1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:40:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 110760 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:40:48 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI2elQ14897 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:40:47 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.251]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031118024041.VTEB20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:40:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB986AB.D56A2B86@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:40:43 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Genealogy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Now this is pretty impressive (from a page I was just looking at online -- the parentage of somebody born in 1773): ***** Father: Living Mother: Christiana Jeserel b: Abt 1734 in Newberry Co, South Carolina, USA ***** The father is indeed old. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 20:56:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI2uo6q016529 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:56:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D46CF1E602BE; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:50:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C1341E602BB for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:50:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E9BCF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:43:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 110852 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:43:16 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAI2hCQ15181 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:43:12 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:43:06 PST Message-ID: <20031118024306.94369.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:43:06 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Two Matters To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FB957D4.E5A8D73B@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > ********** > 5. CHRISTINA2 SWITTENBERG (JOHN1)11 was born Abt. > 1766, and died 15 > December 1859. She married ANDREW HALLMAN11, son of > JACOB HALLMAN. He > was born Abt. 1763, and died 10 March 1852. > > Children of CHRISTINA SWITTENBERG and ANDREW HALLMAN > are: > i. JACOB3 HALLMAN. (1798) > ii. MARY HALLMAN. (1800) > iii. SAMUEL HALLMAN. (1802) > iv. ELIZABETH HALLMAN. (1812) > v. WILLIAM HALLMAN. (1816) > vi. GEORGE HALLMAN. (1818) > vii. DAVID HALLMAN. (1820) > viii. PATSY HALLMAN. (1824) > ********** I have read no posts later then this one so far, so I don't know what observations others have made. First of all, Christina began childbearing at a relatively older age then was common in that time period. If I am figuring correctly, she was 32 upon the birth of Jacob3 and 36 at the birth of Samuel. Then there is a 10 year gap, after which the births resume at intervals of 2, 2, and 4 years. If I had to guess, I would think, as BrP does, that there was some sort of confusion of names, and that the last three children may have been the result of a second marriage. You do have a date of death for Christina, however, which is apparently confirmed by other sources. This is what makes genealogy so fascinating. I will be interested in reading what conclusions others have drawn. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! 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To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > I did not know they had dinner parties in Idaho. How > long has this been > going on? With the advent of potato salad. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! 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To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1259286020.20031117182256@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > >>Is it your phone number? > > Duh. I should never post again. This appeared as a > response on the > same list: Yes, but when you call that number, is there an echo? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 21:05:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI35j6q016617 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:05:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9B2911E602BE; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:59:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B8B81E602BB for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:59:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E9BEF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:52:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 111137 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:52:11 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI2q6Q16069 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:52:06 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.251]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031118025201.FRZZ6696.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:52:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB98953.D17C4D93@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:52:03 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two Matters References: <20031118024306.94369.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > I have read no posts later then this one so far, so I > don't know what observations others have made. First > of all, Christina began childbearing at a relatively > older age then was common in that time period. If I > am figuring correctly, she was 32 upon the birth of As you've seen from future postings, she was more like 25, but that is still somewhat older than average for that time, I think. > This > is what makes genealogy so fascinating. I hate that I didn't discover the fun of genealogy until so late in life. It is indeed totally fascinating. As I've said before, it's not necessarily because it's your own family. It would be fascinating to research anybody's family -- to just go to a cemetery and find a tombstone with name and dates, look at the other tombstones in the vicinity, and take off on the research. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 21:05:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI35r6q016621 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:05:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 46CAC1E602BB; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:59:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16BD11E60251 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:59:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E9BE8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:52:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 111145 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:52:19 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAI2qJQ16086 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:52:19 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:52:13 PST Message-ID: <20031118025213.1710.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:52:13 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Quack Q To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <25.40e6fc01.2ceac258@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Theo Groothof wrote: > In a message dated 11/17/2003 4:30:17 PM, > lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: > > >From another "list". > > > >"A duck's quack does not echo." > > > I don't see why not, but what do "I" know! > Theo Obviously, you and Mr. Snopes have cornered the quack market. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 21:07:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI37i6q016637 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:07:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B647F1E602BB; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:01:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87BD11E60251 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:01:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E9BD2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:54:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 111213 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:54:11 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI2s6Q16236 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:54:06 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003111802540001300egbl6e> (Authid: adamh1); Tue, 18 Nov 2003 02:54:01 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Oooh, freaky! Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:53:58 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20031118025009.17538.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Yes, but when you call that number, is there an echo? Of a duck's quack? --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 21:08:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI38G6q016640 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:08:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 929031E602BE; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:01:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6420C1E60251 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:01:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E9BEF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:54:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 111223 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:54:42 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAI2sfQ16258 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:54:41 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:54:35 PST Message-ID: <20031118025435.70501.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:54:35 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Two Matters To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FB971C3.93ADF008@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > It is generally assumed that that's why he chooses > certain places at > certain times of day. The bakery is not far from > one of the cafeteria > doors. And the gym is within sprinting distance of the cafeteria? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 21:08:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI38W6q016644 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:08:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9C18F1E602BB; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:02:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DEE51E60251 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:02:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4B8B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:54:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 111250 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:54:58 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI2swQ16291 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:54:58 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.251]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031118025452.FTHS6696.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:54:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB989F5.75068FB@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:54:45 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Don't Think I Mentioned (Movie) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I watched "Ordinary People" on tv last night and found it wonderful again. I remember reading that book (before the movie was out) because a friend told me I'd like it. I did. I loved it. And I loved the movie, both when it was new and again last night. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 21:10:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI3AV6q016665 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:10:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9F3A71E60256; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:04:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 708761E60251 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:04:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E9BF8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:56:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 111349 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:56:57 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI2uuQ16497 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:56:57 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.251]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031118025651.FUDQ6696.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:56:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB98A75.9C922755@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:56:53 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two Matters References: <20031118025435.70501.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > It is generally assumed that that's why he chooses > > certain places at > > certain times of day. The bakery is not far from > > one of the cafeteria > > doors. > > And the gym is within sprinting distance of the > cafeteria? Not really sprinting distance. More cross-countryish. I think he probably takes a slow stroll on a full belly when he heads over to the gym in the afternoons. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 21:18:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI3IU6q016775 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:18:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 16A961E602BB; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:12:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D54CE1E60293 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:12:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4B8EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:04:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 111249 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:04:56 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI2suQ16282 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:54:56 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAI2s4hC017948 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:54:06 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:54:53 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Bonnie is indeed a recluse! In-Reply-To: <20031118024838.17098.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031118024838.17098.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >> I did not know they had dinner parties in Idaho. How >> long has this been >> going on? >With the advent of potato salad. Ah - of course! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 21:20:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI3K46q016782 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:20:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C3E5F1E602BB; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:13:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 938B01E60293 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:13:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4B8D7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:06:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 111691 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:06:31 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAI36VQ17477 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:06:31 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:06:25 PST Message-ID: <20031118030625.6141.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:06:25 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Two Matters To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <123.27b7cf8a.2ceacc9d@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > He's a dog after my own heart! I can't think of any > food I like more > than a fresh French roll with butter or an Asiago > cheese bagel with > sun-dried tomato cream cheese. Goodness. Yummy! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 21:22:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI3MS6q016820 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:22:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7BABE1E60293; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:16:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DA3D1E60251 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:16:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4B8E0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:08:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 111784 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:08:54 -0500 Received: from razorbill.mail.pas.earthlink.net (razorbill.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.248]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI38sQ17675 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:08:54 -0500 Received: from dpc693545081.direcpc.com ([69.35.45.81] helo=earthlink.net) by razorbill.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1ALwEW-0001yt-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:08:54 -0800 Message-ID: <410-22003112183859843@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: dormarbil@earthlink.net X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2003.2.92.0 (Windows) From: "Doris Smith" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Re: Two Matters Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:08:59 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-ELNK-Trace: 0f572b91323e03d8e9ef466adc09f07e7e972de0d01da940043d081c51d16268af6899c86e7958bd350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I did not read the first post on this subject, so this question may not be appropriate at all - but I'll pose it anyway. Could the younger children be grandchildren or other relatives? Some of the earlier censuses did not indicate the relationship to the head of household. Doris Smith dormarbil@earthlink.net Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. > [Original Message] > From: Natalie Maynor > To: > Date: 11/17/2003 7:59:54 PM > Subject: Re: Two Matters > > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > I just found them in the 1850 census, and they (the parents -- Andrew > > > and Christina) were still married, he at 87, she at 77. > > > > Having a child at 77 is astronomically unlikely. > > Indeed. There is no evidence that they were still producing children > after 1824. But there is strong evidence that they were still married, > meaning that it was unlikely that those last few of their children were > by a different mother. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 21:22:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI3Mc6q016824 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:22:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5F3441E602BB; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:16:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30C741E60293 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:16:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4B8FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:09:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 111788 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:09:04 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAI394Q17696 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:09:04 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:08:58 PST Message-ID: <20031118030858.74838.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:08:58 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: refrigerator stuff To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > It's just above 40. I've BEEN eating food from it. > What about the freezer? > Everything but the ice cream seems solidly frozen. I certainly would not take a chance on meats, poultry or fish (especially). __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 21:28:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI3SC6q016918 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:28:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E6D301E60251; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:20:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B41501E60293 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:20:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E9C43@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:13:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 112008 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:13:16 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAI3DGQ18238 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:13:16 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:13:10 PST Message-ID: <20031118031310.8307.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:13:10 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: refrigerator stuff To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: I am bring very > careful to smell > everything now. I don't know that this is productive smelling. Chuck it all and start from scratch. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 21:28:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI3SV6q016921 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:28:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3541A1E60293; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:22:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D84A51E60251 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:22:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4B90F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:14:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 112091 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:14:57 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI3EuQ18452 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:14:56 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-156-181.gwi.net [216.195.156.181]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAI3EsAr042088 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:14:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031117221014.00ba8ab0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:15:19 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Don't Think I Mentioned (Movie) In-Reply-To: <3FB989F5.75068FB@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I watched "Ordinary People" on tv last night and found it wonderful >again. I remember reading that book (before the movie was out) because >a friend told me I'd like it. I did. I loved it. And I loved the >movie, both when it was new and again last night. > -- Natalie I also liked the book and the movie. What a different role that was for Mary Tyler Moore. The book brings back a special memory to me. In the fall of 1977 I went to New Haven to do an eight week practicum for my Ph.D. I was to observe in the Yale/New Haven Intensive Care Nursery. The day I arrived in New Haven was the day that the service workers went on strike. My room in the medical students' dorm had not been cleaned. Nor did the dorm get cleaned for the eight weeks that I was there. One of the few things left in my dorm room, I imagine by its former occupant, was a copy of _Ordinary People_. And that's how I happened to read it. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 21:29:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI3TZ6q016934 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:29:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 57DC21E60293; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:23:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20D801E6025F for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:23:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E9C2C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:16:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 112120 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:16:01 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAI3G1Q18659 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:16:01 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:15:56 PST Message-ID: <20031118031556.53122.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:15:56 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: refrigerator stuff To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FB98148.6080306@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Rita Chapman wrote: M. Rosen wrote: > > This was a mistake. Rather than waiting, you > should have been praying for > > an intercession. Faith heals. > > > I will do that forthwith for my expiring > dishwasher. Is there consecrated ground for expired kitchen appliances? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 21:30:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI3UE6q016938 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:30:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0F3021E60293; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:23:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBE1F1E6025F for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:23:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4B907@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:16:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 112159 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:16:41 -0500 Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI3GfQ18761 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:16:41 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.185.2347407e (16484) for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:16:26 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <185.2347407e.2ceae90a@aol.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:16:26 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Two Matters To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/17/2003 9:06:41 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > He's a dog after my own heart! I can't think of any > food I like more > than a fresh French roll with butter or an Asiago > cheese bagel with > sun-dried tomato cream cheese. Goodness. Yummy! >> When I was working at Sears, I would stop by the Saint Louis Bread Co. to get the asiago cheese bagel with the sun-dried tomato cream cheese and a hazelnut coffee. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 21:31:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI3Vm6q016952 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:31:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8CFA31E60293; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:25:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A8991E6025F for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:25:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E9C39@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:18:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 112236 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:18:04 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI3I4Q18964 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:18:04 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E9C54@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:18:00 -0500 Message-Id: <200311180318.hAI3I4Q18964@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:18:01 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: my trip to Phila To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:47:15 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> I stopped three times for low visibility coupled w/ >> fatigue, and finally >> slept at a rest stop for an hr, arriving at the >> hotel at 1:30 am. Went >> straight to the room and straight to sleep, to be >> awakened by an automated >> dead-air call at 3, a putative "pizza delivery" at >> 3:20, and 6 more >> automated calls between 4 and 6:30 am. Not a good >> state to walk into a ten >> hr board meeting in! I am now recuperating at my >> sister's house, prior to >> an allday bd training session tomorrow, followed by >> a 5-6 hr drive back >> home and work tomorrow. > >clo, > > Please enlighten me, what are all these automated >phone calls? This is unforgivable at a facility where >you are paying good money to REST! I'm asking because >I don't recall ever receiving one of these calls in a >motel or hotel room. How are they allowed to through? > Automated wakeup calls that weren't erased from previous clients, apparently. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 21:32:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI3Wt6q016959 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:32:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ABAA91E60293; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:26:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C4111E6025F for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:26:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4B92A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:19:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 112253 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:19:22 -0500 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI3JLQ19094 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:19:21 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.127.34ac4b5e (16484) for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:18:48 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <127.34ac4b5e.2ceae998@aol.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:18:48 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] refrigerator stuff To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/17/2003 9:13:34 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << I don't know that this is productive smelling. Chuck it all and start from scratch. >> I agree. Did you see Dateline on fast-food restaurants last night? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 21:33:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI3X76q016962 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:33:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 611DF1E60293; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:26:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32CCE1E6025F for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:26:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4B912@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:19:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 112273 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:19:33 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI3JXQ19140 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:19:33 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E9C61@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:19:32 -0500 Message-Id: <200311180319.hAI3JXQ19140@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:19:33 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Two Matters To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 14:59:09 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >(1) The White Dog was alive and well and lounging around near the bakery >late this morning. > >(2) Would it be out of the question for a 58-yr-old woman to have a baby >in 1824? > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) It's a heck of a lot more likely that she had a 15 yr-old daughter at the time, who was unmarried. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 21:35:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI3Z46q016983 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:35:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 81A911E60293; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:28:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 468061E6025F for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:28:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4B925@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:21:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 112335 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:21:30 -0500 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI3LUQ19351 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:21:30 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.51.37767e26 (16484) for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:21:09 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <51.37767e26.2ceaea24@aol.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:21:08 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] refrigerator stuff To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/17/2003 9:16:37 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << Is there consecrated ground for expired kitchen appliances? >> No, but Eagle Point Apartments can be considered the nursing home for old appliances. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 21:41:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI3fw6q017113 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:41:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D32371E602BB; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:35:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A56641E60293 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:35:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4B93E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:28:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 112608 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:28:25 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAI3SOQ20269 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:28:25 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:28:19 PST Message-ID: <20031118032819.5847.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:28:19 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Two Matters To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FB98953.D17C4D93@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > I hate that I didn't discover the fun of genealogy > until so late in > life. It is indeed totally fascinating. As I've > said before, it's not > necessarily because it's your own family. It would > be fascinating to > research anybody's family -- to just go to a > cemetery and find a > tombstone with name and dates, look at the other > tombstones in the > vicinity, and take off on the research. Chris and I used to "haunt" churchyards and cemeteries, exploring the vital stats of strangers. It is strangely melancholy in a comforting way. No one in my mother's family was much interested in their histories except for my Aunt Anna, who helped me tremendously when I developed a keen interest when I was about 25. My father was always interested, more as a matter of family pride than anything else. By default, I became the family historian. I have only three cousins, and finally, one of them got the bug, so we share a lot of info. He went to Wales in 2001 to do some personal research. I was exceedingly gelous. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 21:42:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI3ga6q017124 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:42:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3C1661E60293; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:36:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09AAD1E6025F for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:36:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E9C7D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:29:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 112623 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:29:02 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI3T2Q20326 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:29:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.251]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031118032857.XJFB21803.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:28:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB991FA.31E245C1@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:28:58 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two Matters References: <410-22003112183859843@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Smith wrote: > > I did not read the first post on this subject, so this question may not be > appropriate at all - but I'll pose it anyway. Could the younger children > be grandchildren or other relatives? Some of the earlier censuses did not > indicate the relationship to the head of household. All of these children were grown and gone before the first census that named people in the household, though the youngest (b. 1824) was probably just barely gone. I could easily find her probably. I know about these children mainly from books, plus a few tombstones I've eyeballed. Re grandchildren, there was an 18-yr-old James Hallman living with the aged Andrew and Christina Hallman in 1850, quite likely a grandchild. (The way I got into these people was that Christina Swittenberg Hallman was the sister of my gggg-grandfather, William Swittenberg, not to be confused with my gg-grandfather, also William Swittenberg. (It's easy for me to hop through my Swittenberg line since it was John-William-John-William -- and then on to Susannah, "the sweetest woman who ever lived," to quote my father, Susannah's grandson. I am happy, btw, that you have not floated away. I understand that the Houston vicinity was mightily awash today. It's coming this way. The wind is raging now, and we have promise of major rain tonight and on into tomorrow. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 21:43:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI3hN6q017139 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:43:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1A5CF1E6025F; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:37:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E01211E60293 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:37:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4B950@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:29:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 112662 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:29:49 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAI3TnQ20425 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:29:49 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:29:44 PST Message-ID: <20031118032944.86394.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:29:44 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Oooh, freaky! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Adam Hartfield wrote: > > Yes, but when you call that number, is there an > echo? > > Of a duck's quack? Yes. And when a duck falls out of the sky in the woods, does anyone hear it? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 21:43:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI3hc6q017157 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:43:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C5EAB1E60293; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:37:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B2B11E60261 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:37:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4B946@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:30:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 112677 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:30:05 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI3U4Q20501 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:30:04 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.251]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031118032959.XJRF21803.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:29:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB99239.5E64DBA5@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:30:01 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Don't Think I Mentioned (Movie) References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031117221014.00ba8ab0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > strike. My room in the medical students' dorm had not been cleaned. Nor > did the dorm get cleaned for the eight weeks that I was there. One of the > few things left in my dorm room, I imagine by its former occupant, was a > copy of _Ordinary People_. And that's how I happened to read it. I love stories like that! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 21:44:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI3i66q017171 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:44:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 077E91E60293; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:37:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB7881E60261 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:37:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4B939@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:30:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 112693 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:30:32 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI3UVQ20559 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:30:32 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAI3UTk9028290 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:30:30 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000e01c3ad84$55285220$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <410-2200311117234517778@earthlink.net> <3FB97058.EA3A9A7@maynor.net> <14152545.20031117191449@WordWrite.com> <3FB97557.A517CC9A@maynor.net> <102035277.20031117192921@WordWrite.com> Subject: Re: Re: Two Matters Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:30:36 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >> having an additional birth at that age is merely unlikely. > > > I just found them in the 1850 census, and they (the parents -- Andrew > > and Christina) were still married, he at 87, she at 77. > > Having a child at 77 is astronomically unlikely. > > Karen Whew! - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 21:45:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI3jr6q017176 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:45:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E9BDC1E60261; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:39:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B760D1E60025 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:39:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4B95C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:32:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 112862 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:32:20 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAI3WKQ20773 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:32:20 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:32:14 PST Message-ID: <20031118033214.75136.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:32:14 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Two Matters To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FB98A75.9C922755@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Not really sprinting distance. More > cross-countryish. I think he > probably takes a slow stroll on a full belly when he > heads over to the > gym in the afternoons. It is indicative of his doggish wisdom that he takes advantage of all collegiate facilities while helping the animal shelter stay "afloat". __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 21:46:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI3kT6q017185 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:46:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6851D1E602BB; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:40:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A26F1E60293 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:40:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001E9C7F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:32:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 112873 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:32:55 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI3WtQ20810 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:32:55 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.251]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031118033250.XKUM21803.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:32:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB992E4.44922FDC@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:32:52 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two Matters References: <200311180319.hAI3JXQ19140@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > It's a heck of a lot more likely that she had a 15 yr-old daughter at the > time, who was unmarried. That also is a possibility, though there were three of those late-age children pretty close together. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 21:48:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI3m66q017219 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:48:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 997541E60293; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:41:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 658A21E60261 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:41:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4B976@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:34:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 113005 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:34:32 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAI3YWQ21162 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:34:32 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:34:26 PST Message-ID: <20031118033426.87736.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:34:26 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Two Matters To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <410-22003112183859843@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Smith wrote: > I did not read the first post on this subject, so > this question may not be > appropriate at all - but I'll pose it anyway. Could > the younger children > be grandchildren or other relatives? Some of the > earlier censuses did not > indicate the relationship to the head of household. children were T.S. would approve of this idea, as it is a good point. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 21:55:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI3tQ6q017292 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:55:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DA1C11E60293; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:49:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A97C91E60261 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:49:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4B992@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:41:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 113270 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:41:52 -0500 Received: from heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net (heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.189]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI3fpQ22062 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:41:52 -0500 Received: from dpc693545081.direcpc.com ([69.35.45.81] helo=earthlink.net) by heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1ALwkQ-0004BD-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:41:51 -0800 Message-ID: <410-220031121834157887@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: dormarbil@earthlink.net X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2003.2.92.0 (Windows) From: "Doris Smith" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Re: Two Matters Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:41:57 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-ELNK-Trace: 0f572b91323e03d8e9ef466adc09f07e7e972de0d01da940c46a3b2d1f2990f123792b8bc1c9518d350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thank you. :-) I think. Lynn said: > > T.S. would approve of this idea, as it is a good point. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 21:55:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI3tk6q017295 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:55:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AA6301E60261; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:49:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC991E60025 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:49:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001E9CBD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:42:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 113278 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:42:13 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAI3gCQ22128 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:42:12 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:42:06 PST Message-ID: <20031118034206.32282.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:42:06 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: refrigerator stuff To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <51.37767e26.2ceaea24@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > No, but Eagle Point Apartments can be considered the > nursing home for old appliances. In some cases, we provide appliances with assisted living. Btw, who is Bubbles? I like her "worldview". I'll bet she doesn't approve of hunting that little Spam animal either, even with tranquilizer guns. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 21:56:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI3uO6q017298 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:56:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 130741E60261; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:50:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D86BC1E60025 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:50:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4B979@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:42:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 113292 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:42:50 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI3goQ22193 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:42:50 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.178.251]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031118034240.XOZX21803.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:42:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB99532.FD653C64@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:42:42 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two Matters References: <20031118032819.5847.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > No one in my mother's family was much interested in > their histories except for my Aunt Anna, who helped me > tremendously when I developed a keen interest when I > was about 25. > > My father was always interested, more as a matter of > family pride than anything else. I am envious. Although I grew up loving to hear family stories, I didn't think to ask questions that I would now think to ask. And neither of my parents had ever been into genealogy. The stories I heard were just their memories. > By default, I became the family historian. I have > only three cousins, and finally, one of them got the > bug, so we share a lot of info. He went to Wales in > 2001 to do some personal research. I was exceedingly > gelous. Only three cousins? As in of all levels of cousins? I think that less likely than a 77-yr-old giving birth! I have zero first cousins. But I've discovered scads of cousins since getting into genealogy. None are close cousins, though, which means I've got some major mysteries with nobody else to help solve them -- like my g-grandmother, who died when my grandmother was a small child. My g-grandfather did not remarry. Their only child, with dead mother, had two children -- my father and my aunt. I never knew those grandparents. Daddy's daddy died when Daddy was about fifteen. His mother died a year or so before I was born. Daddy's sister didn't have children and died in the early '70s. So that leaves me as the only living descendant of the g-grandmother I know almost nothing about, unless you count my RRB and his children. What a joke it would be to count him as far as any interest in the topic. My niece might very possibly become interested in this stuff someday. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 21:57:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI3vr6q017303 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:57:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9F7E81E60261; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:51:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 702C21E60025 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:51:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4B991@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:44:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 113397 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:44:19 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAI3iJQ22447 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:44:19 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:44:12 PST Message-ID: <20031118034412.10733.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:44:12 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Don't Think I Mentioned (Movie) To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FB99239.5E64DBA5@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > bonniev wrote: > > > strike. My room in the medical students' dorm had > not been cleaned. Nor > > did the dorm get cleaned for the eight weeks that > I was there. One of the > > few things left in my dorm room, I imagine by its > former occupant, was a > > copy of _Ordinary People_. And that's how I > happened to read it. > > I love stories like that! > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Yes, indeed! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 21:59:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI3x46q017313 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:59:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8440A1E60261; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:52:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55EBA1E60025 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:52:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4B997@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:45:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 113449 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:45:30 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAI3jUQ22603 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:45:30 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:45:25 PST Message-ID: <20031118034525.63839.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:45:25 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Two Matters To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <000e01c3ad84$55285220$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > > Having a child at 77 is astronomically unlikely. > > > > Karen > > > Whew! Bless your heart.:-] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 22:00:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI40c6q017346 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:00:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ED3AB1E60261; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:54:19 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE1D31E60025 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:54:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4B9A8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:47:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 113490 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:47:04 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAI3l4Q22843 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:47:04 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:46:58 PST Message-ID: <20031118034658.13678.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:46:58 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Two Matters To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <410-220031121834157887@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Smith wrote: > Thank you. :-) I think. > > You're welcome, I'm sure. :-] > > > > > T.S. would approve of this idea, as it is a good > point. > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 22:10:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI4AZ6q017481 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:10:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ABD441E60293; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:04:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CCF11E60261 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:04:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001E9D35@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:57:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 114341 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:56:54 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAI3usQ23805 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:56:54 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:56:48 PST Message-ID: <20031118035648.64898.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:56:48 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Two Matters To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FB99532.FD653C64@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Lynne Weber wrote: > > > No one in my mother's family was much interested > in > > their histories except for my Aunt Anna, who > helped me > > tremendously when I developed a keen interest when > I > > was about 25. > > > > My father was always interested, more as a matter > of > > family pride than anything else. > > I am envious. Although I grew up loving to hear > family stories, I > didn't think to ask questions that I would now think > to ask. And > neither of my parents had ever been into genealogy. > The stories I heard > were just their memories. > > > By default, I became the family historian. I have > > only three cousins, and finally, one of them got > the > > bug, so we share a lot of info. He went to Wales > in > > 2001 to do some personal research. I was > exceedingly > > gelous. > > Only three cousins? As in of all levels of cousins? > I think that less > likely than a 77-yr-old giving birth! > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Only three first cousins, and not many at any level, certainly not any I'm close to. I am an only child (my sister died in 1958 at the age of seven). I have only one child. My husband is an only child, and his daughter, an only child, died in 1995 at the age of 31. I have one grandchild, Chris has one grandchild be adoption. My mother is living, Chris mother and step-father are living. And that's about it. My first cousins are located in Eastville, VA; Newark, DE; and Brandywine, MD. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 22:45:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI4j86q017816 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:45:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 421E71E602BB; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:38:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B18621E60051 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:38:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4BC6F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 23:31:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 119441 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 23:31:22 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI4VLQ28575 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 23:31:22 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAI4VIk9017357 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:31:20 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001801c3ad8c$d4400d20$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Not Quite Blue Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:31:25 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hAI4j86q017816 Subject: Smoking in the Rain Two old ladies were outside their nursing home, having a smoke, when it started to rain. One of the ladies pulled out a condom, cut off the end, put it over her cigarette, and continued smoking. Lady 1: What's that? Lady 2: A condom. This way my cigarette doesn't get wet Lady 1: Where did you get it? Lady 2: You can get them at any drugstore. The next day, Lady 1 hobbles herself into the local drugstore and announces to the pharmacist that she wants a box of condoms. The guy, obviously embarrassed, looks at her kind of strangely (she is, after all, over 80 years of age), but very delicately asks what brand she preferred. "Doesn't matter, son, as long as it fits a Camel." The pharmacist fainted. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 22:57:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI4v26q018011 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:57:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AB9641E60298; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:50:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 797471E60292 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:50:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4BC9E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 23:43:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 119987 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 23:43:27 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAI4hRQ29845 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 23:43:27 -0500 Received: from [65.80.98.198] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:43:22 PST Message-ID: <20031118044322.99855.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:43:22 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Not Quite Blue To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <001801c3ad8c$d4400d20$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > Subject: Smoking in the Rain > > Two old ladies were outside their nursing home, > having a smoke, when > it started to rain. One of the ladies pulled out > a condom, cut off the > end, put it over her cigarette, and continued > smoking. > > > Lady 1: What's that? > Lady 2: A condom. This way my cigarette doesn't > get wet > Lady 1: Where did you get it? > Lady 2: You can get them at any drugstore. > The next day, Lady 1 hobbles herself into the > local drugstore and > announces to the pharmacist that she wants a box > of condoms. The guy, > obviously embarrassed, looks at her kind of > strangely (she is, after all, > over 80 years of age), but very delicately asks > what brand she preferred. > "Doesn't matter, son, as long as it fits a Camel." > > The pharmacist fainted. I imagine the camel did, too. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 17 23:50:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI5oX6q018627 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 23:50:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5D5DE1E602C0; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 23:44:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED3E1E60298 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 23:44:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001EA1D9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 0:36:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 124523 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 00:35:07 -0500 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI5Z7Q02938 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 00:35:07 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.72.34891047 (18403) for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 00:34:55 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <72.34891047.2ceb097e@aol.com> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 00:34:54 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] refrigerator stuff To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/17/2003 9:42:31 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << Btw, who is Bubbles? I like her "worldview". I'll bet she doesn't approve of hunting that little Spam animal either, even with tranquilizer guns. >> She's one of the Powerpuff Girls. She and her sisters, Blossom and Buttercup, were created by Prof. Utonium when he combined sugar, spice, and everything nice with a little Chemical X. The girls have superpowers and fight such miscreants as Mojo Jojo (a superpowered, ultra- intelligent chimp), the Amoeba Gang, and the Princess (a little rich girl). Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 00:51:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI6p36q019299 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 00:51:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 76E381E602C5; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 00:44:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 496521E60007 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 00:44:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4BFA7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 1:37:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 126731 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 01:37:28 -0500 Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (imo-r05.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI6bSQ08846 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 01:37:28 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.c3.3aa867bc (3924) for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 01:37:16 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 01:37:15 EST Subject: Re: Two Matters To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/17/2003 7:15:34 PM, BrandyKitt@AOL.COM writes: >He's a dog after my own heart! I can't think of any food I like more >than a fresh French roll with butter or an Asiago cheese bagel with >sun-dried tomato cream cheese. > Common now Evelyn, don't you think the best he can do is be happy with some day old bread they may toss to him? Just asking. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 00:53:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI6rO6q019336 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 00:53:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 240681E602C5; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 00:47:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA3711E60007 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 00:47:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4BF91@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 1:39:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 126772 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 01:39:49 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:gB1ovvsliRVUMSF7LzUa6N0KxcTpPKSa@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI6dnQ08924 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 01:39:49 -0500 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BEAB2FE43 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:39:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2A3E2334A for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:39:47 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20031117222907.38258.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Is there consecrated ground for expired kitchen appliances? X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Neal-Stephenson: Paper is a really advanced technology Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:39:43 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Quack Q Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 2:29 PM -0800 11/17/03, Lynne Weber wrote: >>From another "list". > >"A duck's quack does not echo." > >Can this be true? Discuss, please. If a chestnut falls on the internet, can it be roasted? Ken Miller Gollum School of Conundral Studies From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 01:02:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI72N6q019392 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 01:02:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7EE6B1E602C8; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 00:56:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B7421E602C7 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 00:56:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4BFAA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 1:48:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 126875 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 01:48:48 -0500 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI6mmQ09704 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 01:48:48 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.d.1c597bbb (3924) for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 01:48:39 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 01:48:39 EST Subject: Re: refrigerator stuff To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/17/2003 7:47:23 PM, dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes: >It's just above 40. I've BEEN eating food from it. What about the freezer? >Everything but the ice cream seems solidly frozen. > ------- Sweety, I grew up almost my entire life WITHOUT one! We kept the milk sorta cool on the stairs to the inside 2nd floor. And as you can see, to some dismay to some of you, I'm still alive going on 70. :-} Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 01:12:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI7Cj6q019524 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 01:12:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7909A1E602C7; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 01:06:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B6271E602C5 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 01:06:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001EA2D7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 1:59:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 127197 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 01:59:10 -0500 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI6xAQ10958 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 01:59:10 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.de.40dada53 (3924) for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 01:58:59 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 01:58:59 EST Subject: Re: Bonnie is indeed a recluse! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/17/2003 9:00:06 PM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: >> I did not know they had dinner parties in Idaho. How >> long has this been >> going on? > >With the advent of potato salad. > ---------- I've neither bought, nor ever made potato salad, sorry Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 01:22:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI7MB6q019594 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 01:22:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 59D011E602CA; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 01:15:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28DD81E602C9 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 01:15:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4C076@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 2:08:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 128884 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 02:08:36 -0500 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI78aQ13622 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 02:08:36 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.11.1c8d981b (3924) for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 02:08:27 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <11.1c8d981b.2ceb1f6b@aol.com> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 02:08:27 EST Subject: Re: Two Matters To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/17/2003 9:19:56 PM, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: >It's a heck of a lot more likely that she had a 15 yr-old daughter at the >time, who was unmarried. > >clo > ----Huh???? My mother had me at 34 years. People had more sense then, than the today's US girls do! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 01:35:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAI7ZE6q019743 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 01:35:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9C6201E602C9; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 01:28:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DAEB1E602C8 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 01:28:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4C0A9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 2:21:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 129272 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 02:21:38 -0500 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI7LcQ14466 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 02:21:38 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.145.1cb4c0aa (3924) for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 02:21:26 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <145.1cb4c0aa.2ceb2276@aol.com> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 02:21:26 EST Subject: Re: Not Quite Blue To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/17/2003 10:31:36 PM, dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM writes: > Subject: Smoking in the Rain > > Two old ladies were outside their nursing home, having a smoke, when > it started to rain. One of the ladies pulled out a condom, cut off the > end, put it over her cigarette, and continued smoking. > ------ That made my night! thanks ;-} Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 05:44:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAIBiH6q020524 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 05:44:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DC1B61E60020; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 05:37:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB1E01E6000C for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 05:37:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001EA61F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 6:30:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 135244 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 06:30:40 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAIBUeQ30261 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 06:30:40 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.18]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031118113035.EOOH11940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 06:30:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBA02DC.37D710EA@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 05:30:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two Matters References: <20031118035648.64898.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Only three first cousins, and not many at any level, > certainly not any I'm close to. > > I am an only child (my sister died in 1958 at the age > of seven). I have only one child. My husband is an > only child, and his daughter, an only child, died in > 1995 at the age of 31. I have one grandchild, Chris > has one grandchild be adoption. My mother is living, > Chris mother and step-father are living. And that's > about it. > > My first cousins are located in Eastville, VA; Newark, > DE; and Brandywine, MD. This is the most you have ever . And it is interesting. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 05:46:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAIBkD6q020534 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 05:46:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A2CFC1E603A5; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 05:39:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 745A21E60337 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 05:39:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001EA600@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 6:32:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 135290 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 06:32:36 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAIBWTQ30347 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 06:32:29 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.18]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031118113224.EOVX11940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 06:32:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBA0349.EC6A79D0@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 05:32:25 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Not Quite Blue References: <001801c3ad8c$d4400d20$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > Subject: Smoking in the Rain ROFL! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 06:20:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAICKB6q020856 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 06:20:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4BA091E60397; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 04:11:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 164D71E60371 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 04:11:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4C22C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 5:04:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 132928 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 05:04:37 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAIA4aQ24914 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 05:04:37 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 11:05:52 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id W5K0Q8DA; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 11:05:48 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031118110139.027f6fd8@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 11:03:36 +0100 Subject: Re: Bonnie is indeed a recluse! In-Reply-To: <127.34a92956.2ceabe4f@aol.com> References: <127.34a92956.2ceabe4f@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 19:14 17.11.2003 -0500 skrev Theo Groothof: >In a message dated 11/17/2003 6:10:11 AM, dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes: > >>Can you not have a dinner party for 12? (That's my max for dinner parties >> >Please don't feel bad, Natalie. I've never had more than 2 people over for >dinner at my newest address here in Idaho, and I'm still happy! :-} I have had myself be talked into being tenzo ( http://www.wwzc.org/translations/tenzokyokun.htm ) on our weekend retreat Nov. 29-30. That means I can poison 15 zen-followers and a teacher. Very formal. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 06:20:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAICKB6q020857 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 06:20:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4E3FF1E60017; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 05:41:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2121A1E60016 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 05:41:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4C35D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 6:34:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 135361 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 06:34:10 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAIBYAQ30505 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 06:34:10 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.18]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031118113404.EPGF11940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 06:34:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBA03AE.F307A5FC@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 05:34:06 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two Matters References: <3FB957D4.E5A8D73B@maynor.net> <6.0.0.22.0.20031118105404.02805200@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen Ore wrote: > > But what about her birthdate? What if she was born in for instance 1782 just to suggest a year - she woyld have been old enough to have the first baby in 1798 and only 42 when the last was born. Yes. That's one reason I went to the 1850 census to check her age then. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 06:20:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAICKC6q020861 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 06:20:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 584BD1E6038E; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 04:03:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 263251E60388 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 04:03:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4C236@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 4:55:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 132772 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 04:55:54 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAI9trQ24401 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 04:55:54 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:57:53 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id W5K0Q79F; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:57:51 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031118105404.02805200@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:55:47 +0100 Subject: Re: Two Matters In-Reply-To: <3FB957D4.E5A8D73B@maynor.net> References: <3FB957D4.E5A8D73B@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU But what about her birthdate? What if she was born in for instance 1782 just to suggest a year - she woyld have been old enough to have the first baby in 1798 and only 42 when the last was born. Espen 17:20 17.11.2003 -0600 skrev Natalie Maynor: >Paul Barfoot wrote: >> >> >> It seems highly unlikely. I'd sooner believe that the woman's d.o.b. (or the baby's) was written incorrectly or that you have a case of two different women with the same name. > >It strikes me as unlikely also, but I've found no records anywhere >suggesting that all these children aren't hers. They're in various >sources. (The below is from one of my charts.) > >********** >5. CHRISTINA2 SWITTENBERG (JOHN1)11 was born Abt. 1766, and died 15 >December 1859. She married ANDREW HALLMAN11, son of JACOB HALLMAN. He >was born Abt. 1763, and died 10 March 1852. > >Children of CHRISTINA SWITTENBERG and ANDREW HALLMAN are: > i. JACOB3 HALLMAN. (1798) > ii. MARY HALLMAN. (1800) > iii. SAMUEL HALLMAN. (1802) > iv. ELIZABETH HALLMAN. (1812) > v. WILLIAM HALLMAN. (1816) > vi. GEORGE HALLMAN. (1818) > vii. DAVID HALLMAN. (1820) > viii. PATSY HALLMAN. (1824) >********** > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 07:41:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAIDfq6q021904 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:41:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 67FFA1E6029A; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:35:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F6C1E60022 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:35:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4C4DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 8:28:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 138735 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 08:28:14 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAIDSDQ30438 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 08:28:13 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-158-167.gwi.net [216.195.158.167]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAIDSAAt099674; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 08:28:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031118082723.00b182b0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 08:28:12 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Quack Q In-Reply-To: References: <20031117222907.38258.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:39 PM 11/17/2003 -0800, Bookrat wrote: >At 2:29 PM -0800 11/17/03, Lynne Weber wrote: > >>From another "list". > > > >"A duck's quack does not echo." > > > >Can this be true? Discuss, please. > >If a chestnut falls on the internet, can it be roasted? I believe so. Doesn't the lyric go: "Chestnuts, roasting on the open file" ?? cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 07:45:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAIDjc6q022097 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:45:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0F8641E60017; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:39:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D233C1E6000D for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:39:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4C4F2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 8:32:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 138951 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 08:32:00 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAIDVxQ31344 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 08:31:59 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-158-167.gwi.net [216.195.158.167]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAIDVqAt000311; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 08:31:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031118082855.00b2a490@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 08:29:33 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: refrigerator stuff In-Reply-To: <20031118034206.32282.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> References: <51.37767e26.2ceaea24@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:42 PM 11/17/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >In some cases, we provide appliances with assisted >living. What sort of assistance does a (presumably elderly) appliance need? cwv From owner-words-l*words-l**GTOAL*-COM@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 07:47:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAIDle6q022121 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:47:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 38BE51E60017; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:41:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096511E6000D for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:41:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4C516@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 8:34:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 139327 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 08:34:02 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAIDY2Q32339 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 08:34:02 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 05:33:56 PST Message-ID: <20031118133356.59063.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 05:33:56 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Quack Q To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Bookrat wrote: > If a chestnut falls on the internet, can it be > roasted? Apparently. Quite tasty, as a matter of fact. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 07:51:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAIDpB6q022145 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:51:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AD8BE1E6001B; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:44:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BD6F1E60017 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:44:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4C52D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 8:37:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 139527 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 08:37:33 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAIDbXQ00704 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 08:37:33 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 05:37:24 PST Message-ID: <20031118133724.70287.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 05:37:24 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Quack Q To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031118082723.00b182b0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > I believe so. Doesn't the lyric go: > > "Chestnuts, roasting on the open file" ?? D.M., have you taken to posting as Dr. V.? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 10:08:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAIG8L6q024017 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:08:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 414691E60021; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:01:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1E6B1E60020 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:01:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4CA49@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:54:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 150983 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:54:36 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAIFsRQ27683 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:54:35 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hAIFsPkF013965 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:54:25 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hAIFsPvu013963 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:54:25 +0100 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:54:24 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Oooh, freaky! Message-ID: <20031118155424.GA13914@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <1597919968.20031117013543@WordWrite.com> <3FB8C7D7.2060606@bc.edu> <1259286020.20031117182256@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1259286020.20031117182256@WordWrite.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = >> = >>Is it your phone number? = = Duh. I should never post again. This appeared as a response on the = same list: = = "Ahem -- of course it's your phone number! This boils down to taking the = first 3 digits of your phone number, multiplying them by 10,000, then = adding the last 4 digits of the phone number." = = Karen Actually, I have a zero in a key position in my phone number which makes it fail. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 10:10:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAIGAq6q024030 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:10:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8A21C1E6001D; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:04:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4939F1E6001C for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:04:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001EAC5A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:57:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 151508 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:57:12 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAIFvBQ28752 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:57:12 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:59:07 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id W5K0Q028; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:59:06 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031118164322.027f6e90@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:57:02 +0100 Subject: Genealogy In-Reply-To: <3FBA03AE.F307A5FC@maynor.net> References: <3FB957D4.E5A8D73B@maynor.net> <6.0.0.22.0.20031118105404.02805200@localhost> <3FBA03AE.F307A5FC@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU There is a group of us cousins who are interested in family history. I am now working on the archive from the Ore-farm with papers going back to 1723. So far I have digitized documents related to the sharing of Anna Aadnesdtr's goods among her inheritors in 1743 - a fairly common kind of document - and something which seemed more strange: documentation from a Swedish naval officer (I guess) that my g-g-g-g-father had served on a Swedish fregate in 1806. http://home.no.net/espenore/oredok/bilder/Dok12-recto.jpg But when I check I find that technically we were not at war with Sweden in 1806 - that came two years later, so it is probably acceptable that he served (for a short period it seems) in the Swedish navy. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 10:19:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAIGJ46q024144 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:19:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B10C51E60020; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:12:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A90A1E6001F for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:12:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001EAD06@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 11:05:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 152524 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 11:05:23 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAIG5MQ31346 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 11:05:22 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:07:21 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id W5K0Q0K4; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:07:17 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031118170151.0282ce10@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:05:14 +0100 Subject: Back to the sources In-Reply-To: <3FBA03AE.F307A5FC@maynor.net> References: <3FB957D4.E5A8D73B@maynor.net> <6.0.0.22.0.20031118105404.02805200@localhost> <3FBA03AE.F307A5FC@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU or "Ad fontes": I have applied to become a part-time student at the Univ. of Oslo where I hope to get a MA in Classical Greek. So I have started to read Xenophon again and find that I still understand the classical language better than the modern - at least so far as I know the grammar and the language structur. But my modern Greek vocabulary and knowledge of idioms are growing. Gaudeamus igitur .. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 11:01:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAIH1g6q024593 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 11:01:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 79FEB1E60020; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:55:19 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 614871E60021 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:55:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4CC24@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 11:48:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 157616 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 11:47:51 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAIGlnQ11066 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 11:47:50 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 08:47:42 PST Message-ID: <20031118164742.59083.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 08:47:42 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: refrigerator stuff To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031118082855.00b2a490@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > At 07:42 PM 11/17/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > > > >In some cases, we provide appliances with assisted > >living. > > What sort of assistance does a (presumably elderly) > appliance need? Electricians for circulatory problems, plumbers for digestion and waste, repairmen for vital organ transplants. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 12:26:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAIIQk6q025669 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:26:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4A59A1E6002E; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:20:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFA1A1E60006 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:20:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4CFDD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:13:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 166648 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:13:06 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAIID6e29785 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:13:06 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001EB248@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:13:06 -0500 Message-Id: <200311181813.hAIID6e29785@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:13:06 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Two Matters To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 02:08:27 EST, Theo Groothof wrote: >In a message dated 11/17/2003 9:19:56 PM, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: > >>It's a heck of a lot more likely that she had a 15 yr-old daughter at the >>time, who was unmarried. >> >>clo >> >----Huh???? My mother had me at 34 years. People had more sense then, than >the today's US girls do! >Theo Well, I don't comprehend what your mother has to do with this, but in response to the "huh", many families with a girl "in trouble" have raised the child as a sibling to the daughter, passing it off as the grandmother's child. Re when women bear children, my mother also had children in her 30's, and my husband was born to parents who were 47 (ma) and 56 (pa); but a mother over age 50 is quite unusual. Adoption or an error in the records seems like a better guess. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 17:19:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAINJP6q029234 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:19:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ECBD91E6004B; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:12:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B78641E6004A for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:12:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001EC230@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:05:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 196598 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:05:43 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAIN5gY27332 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:05:43 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-184-130.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.184.130]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAIN5fk0023345 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:05:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FBAA578.4080307@swbell.net> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:04:24 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Oooh, freaky! References: <20031118025009.17538.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Speaking of freaky, the archives didn't update today for some reason, so when I went to read them at lunch, the file was for last year. Alyce posted a lot one year ago today. It was kind of nice to read her talking about book selling, meals on wheels, etc. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 17:42:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAINgV6q029388 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:42:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B185E1E6029A; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:36:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 834BF1E6019D for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:36:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4DCD4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:28:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 197754 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:28:49 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAINSnY30141 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:28:49 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAINSjk9021995 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:28:47 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000401c3ae2b$bdbfdb80$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031118025009.17538.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> <3FBAA578.4080307@swbell.net> Subject: Re: Re: Oooh, freaky! Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:28:57 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU - > Speaking of freaky, the archives didn't update today for > some reason, so when I went to read them at lunch, the file > was for last year. Alyce posted a lot one year ago today. > It was kind of nice to read her talking about book selling, > meals on wheels, etc. > > > > -- > Rita Rouvalis Chapman A reminder that the world goes on without us . . something so hard to imagine when we think that our world us. On the other hand, a reminder that something of us stays here, witness our still including Alyce in our thoughts and postings, and she still seems very real. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 17:45:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAINjI6q029493 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:45:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3B1281E601ED; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:38:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 067C21E60053 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:38:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4DCE7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:31:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 197860 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:31:36 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAINVaY30419 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:31:36 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.173.214]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031118233131.FETF14456.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:31:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBAABD4.8E3BC50D@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:31:32 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: TWD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The White Dog was roaming the campus today in the pouring rain. I had a conversation with him, telling him that I would love to bring him home. He looked as if he was listening and followed me for a little while but then turned away. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 17:46:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAINkq6q029498 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:46:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 78C1A1E601ED; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:40:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48D4D1E60053 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:40:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4DCE5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:33:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 197922 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:33:10 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAINX9Y30638 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:33:09 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.173.214]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031118233304.FFLC14456.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:33:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBAAC31.20D71E8C@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:33:05 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Oooh, freaky! References: <20031118025009.17538.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> <3FBAA578.4080307@swbell.net> <000401c3ae2b$bdbfdb80$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > On the other hand, a reminder that something > of us stays here, witness our still including > Alyce in our thoughts and postings, and she > still seems very real. Alyce will always be with us. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 17:48:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAINmb6q029505 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:48:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CE0AF1E60053; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:42:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CB741E601ED for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:42:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4DCF4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:34:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 197565 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:34:55 -0500 Received: from Archive.MsState.Edu (archive.msstate.edu [130.18.80.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAINOsY29749 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:24:54 -0500 Received: from archive.msstate.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]); by Archive.MsState.Edu (8.12.10/8.12.8/MsState-Archive/1.10) with ESMTP; id hAINOsJR015826 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:24:54 -0600 (CST) Received: (from maynor@localhost) by archive.msstate.edu (8.12.10/8.12.7/Submit) id hAINOsa0015825 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:24:54 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:24:54 -0600 (CST) From: Mutant City Message-Id: <200311182324.hAINOsa0015825@archive.msstate.edu> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Archives Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I read Rita's posting and just sent this to FWP, even though he is not really the hands-on person he used to be with Ra. He has risen to loftier work. He's head of somethingorother. I miss the good old days when he and I were in regular correspondence on old Univac Bitnet. Anyway, here's what I just wrote to him: ************************************ Message contains: To: fwp@its.msstate.edu Subject: Weird I was alerted to this by something Rita Rouvalis Chapman posted on Words-L a few minutes ago: ******* Speaking of freaky, the archives didn't update today for some reason, so when I went to read them at lunch, the file was for last year. Alyce posted a lot one year ago today. It was kind of nice to read her talking about book selling, meals on wheels, etc. ******* So I came over here to look and found that the November archives starting with today are all last year's. Yesterday's was this year's. (I didn't check the rest of them.) So that must mean that the archives don't really die after a few weeks. They exist somewhere. But what is going on? *************************************** --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 17:50:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAINor6q029515 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:50:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8CF8D1E6028A; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:44:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AE2E1E60053 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:44:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4DCF9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:37:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 198074 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:37:11 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAINbAY31036 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:37:10 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.173.214]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031118233705.FHHH14456.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:37:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBAAD23.C74AD41C@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:37:07 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Archives References: <200311182324.hAINOsa0015825@archive.msstate.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mutant City wrote: > > I read Rita's posting and just sent this to FWP, even though he is not > really the hands-on person he used to be with Ra. He has risen to loftier ^^^^^^^ The archives have nothing to do with Ra. I meant with any of the specific servers. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 17:58:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAINwT6q029627 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:58:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 052101E6028A; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:52:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7F421E601ED for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:52:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4DD23@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:44:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 198568 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:44:47 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAINilY31965 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:44:47 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAINiX5Z020500 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:44:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:45:46 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <584401744.20031118174546@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Oooh, freaky! In-Reply-To: <000401c3ae2b$bdbfdb80$e1cadece@0018079268> References: <20031118025009.17538.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> <3FBAA578.4080307@swbell.net> <000401c3ae2b$bdbfdb80$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, November 18, 2003, Doris Markland wrote: > On the other hand, a reminder that something > of us stays here, witness our still including > Alyce in our thoughts and postings, and she > still seems very real. She is very real. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 18:34:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJ0Y96q030041 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:34:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2BF1E1E6004D; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:27:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F266F1E6003D for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:27:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001EC39F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:20:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 199658 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:20:26 -0500 Received: from Archive.MsState.Edu (archive.msstate.edu [130.18.80.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJ0AQY01959 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:10:26 -0500 Received: from archive.msstate.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]); by Archive.MsState.Edu (8.12.10/8.12.8/MsState-Archive/1.10) with ESMTP; id hAJ0APJR017505; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:10:25 -0600 (CST) Received: (from maynor@localhost) by archive.msstate.edu (8.12.10/8.12.7/Submit) id hAJ0APw5017504; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:10:25 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:10:25 -0600 (CST) From: Mutant City Message-Id: <200311190010.hAJ0APw5017504@archive.msstate.edu> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Cc: fwp@its.msstate.edu Subject: Archives Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just discovered something interesting. I was scrolling through the Nov. 18 archive file out of nostalgia re Alyce and stuff we were talking about this time last year. I didn't read every word but skimmed on down -- and here's the interesting part: suddenly that file morphed into TODAY's archive. --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 18:39:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJ0dN6q030113 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:39:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0763A1E60053; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:32:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8F281E6003D for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:32:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4DDBF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:25:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 200427 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:25:40 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJ0PdY03761 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:25:39 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-155-6.gwi.net [216.195.155.6]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAJ0PXAr039236 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:25:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031118192417.00b93d50@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:25:31 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Oooh, freaky! In-Reply-To: <584401744.20031118174546@WordWrite.com> References: <000401c3ae2b$bdbfdb80$e1cadece@0018079268> <20031118025009.17538.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> <3FBAA578.4080307@swbell.net> <000401c3ae2b$bdbfdb80$e1cadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I thought of Alyce today when I read this thing in the New Yorker that some 71-year-old Wisconsin woman had her obituary read "In lieu of flowers, please send a donation to any organization that is working against the Bush administration." bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 18:41:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJ0fk6q030127 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:41:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1D5A51E60057; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:35:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E37C21E60053 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:35:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4DDD8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:28:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 200529 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:28:03 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJ0S3Y04149 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:28:03 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-155-6.gwi.net [216.195.155.6]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAJ0S0At039653; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:28:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031118192628.00b2ba18@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:27:57 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Archives In-Reply-To: <200311190010.hAJ0APw5017504@archive.msstate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:10 PM 11/18/2003 -0600, Mutant City wrote: >I just discovered something interesting. I was scrolling through the >Nov. 18 archive file out of nostalgia re Alyce and stuff we were talking >about this time last year. I didn't read every word but skimmed on down -- >and here's the interesting part: suddenly that file morphed into TODAY's >archive. Alyce always has had her mischievous side... cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 18:48:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJ0mA6q030160 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:48:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CEFE91E60057; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:41:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DE341E6003D for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:41:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001EC3DB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:34:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 200761 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:34:28 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJ0YSY04772 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:34:28 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAJ0Y8l6010621 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:34:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:35:38 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1621395801.20031118183538@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Alyce MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I still have a lot of e-mail from Alyce, and she's still in my alias list. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 18:59:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJ0xU6q030274 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:59:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 425C41E60053; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:53:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 151EA1E6005A for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:53:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4DE30@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:45:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 201399 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:45:47 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJ0jgY06458 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:45:47 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.173.214]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031119004537.NSWJ20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:45:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBABD33.141063FD@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:45:39 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Oooh, freaky! References: <000401c3ae2b$bdbfdb80$e1cadece@0018079268> <20031118025009.17538.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> <3FBAA578.4080307@swbell.net> <000401c3ae2b$bdbfdb80$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031118192417.00b93d50@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > I thought of Alyce today when I read this thing in the New Yorker that some > 71-year-old Wisconsin woman had her obituary read "In lieu of flowers, > please send a donation to any organization that is working against the Bush > administration." That may be a UL. I've read it about people in various places. The first one I heard of was a woman in New Orleans whose Time-Piyacune obituary said to send donations to anybody who might defeat Bush. (Presumably it would be easy to check on the veracity, of course. At least recent obituaries are online.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 19:04:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJ14k6q030308 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:04:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7AA761E60053; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:58:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48BA51E6003D for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:58:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4DE39@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:51:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 201622 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:51:04 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJ0p3Y07149 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:51:03 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.173.214]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031119005058.NUUY20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:50:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBABE73.B38405FD@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:50:59 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Oooh, freaky! References: <000401c3ae2b$bdbfdb80$e1cadece@0018079268> <20031118025009.17538.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> <3FBAA578.4080307@swbell.net> <000401c3ae2b$bdbfdb80$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031118192417.00b93d50@pop.gwi.net> <3FBABD33.141063FD@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Snopes says true: http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/obituary.asp -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 19:41:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJ1fJ6q030758 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:41:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A43991E6020E; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:34:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7619D1E6005B for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:34:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4DEEA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:27:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 203457 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:27:36 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJ1RZY11658 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:27:36 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAJ1RY2f022664 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:27:34 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAJ1RXJC022625; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:27:33 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031118172910.00a5e1b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:29:43 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Oooh, freaky! In-Reply-To: <3FBAA578.4080307@swbell.net> References: <20031118025009.17538.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:04 PM 11/18/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >Speaking of freaky, the archives didn't update today for >some reason, so when I went to read them at lunch, the file >was for last year. Alyce posted a lot one year ago today. >It was kind of nice to read her talking about book selling, >meals on wheels, etc. Her web page is still up, too. I found one of her e-mails that I had saved at work and clicked on it. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 20:00:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJ20k6q030937 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:00:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4B2341E60060; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:54:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 190F21E6005E for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:54:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4DF63@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:47:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 204688 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:47:03 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJ1l3Y13973 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:47:03 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-184-130.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.184.130]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAJ1l29u023855 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:47:02 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FBACB45.5000203@swbell.net> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:45:41 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Oooh, freaky! References: <20031118025009.17538.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> <3FBAA578.4080307@swbell.net> <000401c3ae2b$bdbfdb80$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > A reminder that the world goes on without > us . . something so hard to imagine when > we think that our world us. Well, I'm infamous for living in my own little world... I'm not sure I need any reminders of that. > On the other hand, a reminder that something > of us stays here, witness our still including > Alyce in our thoughts and postings, and she > still seems very real. I miss Alyce quite often. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 20:24:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJ2O16q031139 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:24:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DF49B1E60067; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:17:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABF3B1E60061 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:17:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4DFCB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:10:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 205583 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:10:18 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJ2AIY16655 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:10:18 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001EC543@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:10:17 -0500 Message-Id: <200311190210.hAJ2AIY16655@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:10:17 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Oooh, freaky! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:33:05 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Doris Markland wrote: > >> On the other hand, a reminder that something >> of us stays here, witness our still including >> Alyce in our thoughts and postings, and she >> still seems very real. > >Alyce will always be with us. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) And speaking of Alyce, are Jeff and Doug still with us? I was thinking last week in Chicago about the footage we saw after her memorial, which I think many wordslers might love to share. Does anyone know how "the boys" are doing? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 20:34:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJ2Yc6q031265 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:34:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 763EF1E60067; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:28:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C3A1E60061 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:28:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4DFE1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:20:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 205973 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:20:54 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJ2KsY18108 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:20:54 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003111902204801300eg9lhe> (Authid: adamh1); Wed, 19 Nov 2003 02:20:48 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Oooh, freaky! Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:20:45 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200311190210.hAJ2AIY16655@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > And speaking of Alyce, are Jeff and Doug still with us? I was > thinking last > week in Chicago about the footage we saw after her memorial, which I think > many wordslers might love to share. Does anyone know how "the > boys" are doing? Jeff is still subscribed and is not set to nomail. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 20:55:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJ2t66q031472 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:55:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 973061E6005F; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:48:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 670681E6005B for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:48:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4E00C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:41:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 206681 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:41:22 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAJ2fMY20268 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:41:22 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:41:17 PST Message-ID: <20031119024117.42109.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:41:17 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: TWD To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FBAABD4.8E3BC50D@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > The White Dog was roaming the campus today in the > pouring rain. I had a > conversation with him, telling him that I would love > to bring him home. > He looked as if he was listening and followed me for > a little while but > then turned away. I found myself wondering what in the world Spencer would think if you and the White Dog arrived at home together. Would Spencer defend his territory aggressively? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 20:57:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJ2vE6q031524 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:57:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 387361E60061; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:50:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09C861E6005F for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:50:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4E02C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:43:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 206753 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:43:30 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAJ2hUY20577 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:43:30 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:43:24 PST Message-ID: <20031119024325.67959.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:43:24 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Archives To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200311190010.hAJ0APw5017504@archive.msstate.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Mutant City wrote: suddenly that file > morphed into TODAY's > archive. A roast chestnut may have plopped down on it. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 21:04:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJ34Z6q031636 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:04:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0A1E81E6005F; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:58:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBD741E6005B for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:58:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4E043@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:50:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 207072 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:50:52 -0500 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJ2oqY21544 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:50:52 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.17a.22b3630b (4539) for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:50:35 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <17a.22b3630b.2cec347b@aol.com> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:50:35 EST Subject: Re: Two Matters To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/18/2003 12:13:37 PM, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: >>In a message dated 11/17/2003 9:19:56 PM, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: >> >>>It's a heck of a lot more likely that she had a 15 yr-old daughter at >the >>>time, who was unmarried. >>> >>>clo >>> >>----Huh???? My mother had me at 34 years. People had more sense then, >than >>the today's US girls do! >>Theo > >Well, I don't comprehend what your mother has to do with this, but in >response to the "huh", > > many families with a girl "in trouble" have raised the child > as a sibling to the daughter, passing it off as the grandmother's child. > >Re when women bear children, my mother also had children in her 30's, and > my husband was born to parents who were 47 (ma) and 56 (pa); but a mother > over age 50 is quite unusual. Adoption or an error in the records seems >like > a better guess. ------------- First of all, my mother was NOT in trouble, and passing off the children as the grandma's was perhaps "common" in this country, but not where I came from. They only got married to give me my dad's last name. In those days, and now, it's no shame to live together until the woman gets pregnant. So now you know.And I don't blame you if you're gelous! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 21:07:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJ3726q031699 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:07:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7450F1E60061; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:00:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 456BF1E6005B for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:00:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4E03D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:53:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 207182 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:53:18 -0500 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJ2rIY21807 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:53:18 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.129.354ebacb (4539) for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:53:04 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <129.354ebacb.2cec3510@aol.com> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:53:04 EST Subject: Re: Oooh, freaky! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/18/2003 5:05:57 PM, rouvalis@SWBELL.NET writes: >Alyce posted a lot one year ago today. >It was kind of nice to read her talking about book selling, >meals on wheels, etc. -------- Don't worry; you'll get to some of it soon 'nuff!! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 21:09:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJ39c6q031718 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:09:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AB2BF1E60061; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:03:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 769191E6005B for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:03:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4E045@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:55:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 207259 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:55:11 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAJ2tAY22020 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:55:10 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:55:05 PST Message-ID: <20031119025505.41561.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:55:05 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Oooh, freaky! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FBABE73.B38405FD@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Snopes says true: > > http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/obituary.asp May I drift off-topic for a moment to ask how often obituaries mention "live-in boyfriends"? I've seen "long-time companion", "special friend", "loved one", etc. "Live-in" whatever seems just a little blunt. I don't remember ever having seen it before. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 21:15:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJ3FB6q031756 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:15:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 81F1C1E6029A; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:08:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F9761E60061 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:08:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4E072@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:01:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 207532 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:01:27 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAJ31RY22631 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:01:27 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:01:22 PST Message-ID: <20031119030122.43426.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:01:22 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Oooh, freaky! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FBACB45.5000203@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Rita Chapman wrote: > > Well, I'm infamous for living in my own > little world... I'm > not sure I need any reminders of that. Wonder how we would do if a number of us had to swap worlds for a day or so? Would it be anything like being on Survivor? > > > > On the other hand, a reminder that something > > of us stays here, witness our still including > > Alyce in our thoughts and postings, and she > > still seems very real. > > > I miss Alyce quite often. Coming in late as I did, after Alyce's passing, I find it quite impressive what an impact she has made on so many lives. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 21:21:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJ3LP6q031804 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:21:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E024F1E60065; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:14:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B23A01E60064 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:14:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4E07B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:07:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 207789 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:07:42 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAJ37gY23375 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:07:42 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:07:36 PST Message-ID: <20031119030736.65154.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:07:36 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Two Matters To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <17a.22b3630b.2cec347b@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Theo Groothof wrote: > ------------- > First of all, my mother was NOT in trouble, and > passing off the children as > the grandma's was perhaps __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 21:34:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJ3Yt6q031908 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:34:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F36A81E60065; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:28:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C371E60061 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:28:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4E0BC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:21:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 208270 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:21:11 -0500 Received: from firecrest.mail.pas.earthlink.net (firecrest.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.247]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJ3LBY24543 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:21:11 -0500 Received: from dpc693545081.direcpc.com ([69.35.45.81] helo=earthlink.net) by firecrest.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AMItw-0003XL-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:21:10 -0800 Message-ID: <410-22003113193219273@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: dormarbil@earthlink.net X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2003.2.92.0 (Windows) From: "Doris Smith" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Re: Oooh, freaky! Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:21:09 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-ELNK-Trace: 0f572b91323e03d8e9ef466adc09f07e7e972de0d01da9400da35fdb560217aaec128785b0e12c67350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU She had a strong personality and was a kind woman. Another departed Words-Ler who had a big impact on most of the old timers here is Gilbert Smith, aka Giggles. Doris S > > > > I miss Alyce quite often. > > Coming in late as I did, after Alyce's passing, I find > it quite impressive what an impact she has made on so > many lives. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 21:34:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJ3Yv6q031914 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:34:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CF88B1E60061; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:28:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0B151E60064 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:28:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4E0A2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:21:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 208281 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:21:14 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJ3LEY24558 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:21:14 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.173.214]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031119032108.DHFR14203.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:21:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBAE1A6.B2E1571@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:21:10 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Oooh, freaky! References: <20031118025009.17538.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20031118172910.00a5e1b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > Her web page is still up, too. I found one of her e-mails that I had saved > at work and clicked on it. I got mail (snail-mail) not long ago from the Greene County, NY, Humane Society. It made me sad but also glad -- glad about Alyce's existence, about Spike, about her overall caring for people, animals, etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 21:38:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJ3cI6q031974 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:38:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 385E61E60064; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:31:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 080BD1E60061 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:31:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4E0BF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:24:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 208403 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:24:34 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJ3OYY24934 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:24:34 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.173.214]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031119032428.DINY14203.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:24:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBAE26D.747EC96C@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:24:29 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Oooh, freaky! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield wrote: > Jeff is still subscribed and is not set to nomail. I'm glad to hear that! I also had been thinking lately about how much we appreciated Jeff's being here with us to tell us what was going on, how much we liked him, etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 21:39:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJ3dO6q032011 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:39:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2D3831E60064; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:32:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F252B1E60061 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:32:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4E0C1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:25:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 208427 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:25:40 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJ3PeY25018 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:25:40 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAJ3Pd2f030520 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:25:39 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAJ3PbJC030501; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:25:38 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031118192627.00a43ab0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:27:47 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Oooh, freaky! In-Reply-To: <410-22003113193219273@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Oh, yes! I always thought that he should have been buried in his car. Betty At 09:21 PM 11/18/2003 -0600, Doris Smith wrote: >She had a strong personality and was a kind woman. Another departed >Words-Ler who had a big impact on most of the old timers here is Gilbert >Smith, aka Giggles. > >Doris S > > > > > > > I miss Alyce quite often. > > > > Coming in late as I did, after Alyce's passing, I find > > it quite impressive what an impact she has made on so > > many lives. > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 21:40:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJ3eS6q032036 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:40:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BAE6C1E60066; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:34:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B69C1E60061 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:34:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4E0B4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:26:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 208479 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:26:45 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJ3QiY25166 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:26:44 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAJ3QheO012830 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:26:43 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAJ3Qea2012802; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:26:41 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031118192816.00a426f0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:28:50 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Oooh, freaky! In-Reply-To: <3FBAE26D.747EC96C@maynor.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:24 PM 11/18/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Adam Hartfield wrote: > > > Jeff is still subscribed and is not set to nomail. > >I'm glad to hear that! I also had been thinking lately about how much >we appreciated Jeff's being here with us to tell us what was going on, >how much we liked him, etc. He really did make it special. I hope it helped him, too. B From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 21:43:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJ3hk6q032044 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:43:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0F6ED1E6006C; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:37:19 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0D6B1E60061 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:37:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4E0D6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:30:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 208565 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:30:02 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJ3U2Y25569 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:30:02 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAJ3Til6002484 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:29:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:30:58 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1645151300.20031118213058@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Oooh, freaky! In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031118192816.00a426f0@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <4.2.2.20031118192816.00a426f0@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, November 18, 2003, Betty wrote: > At 09:24 PM 11/18/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>Adam Hartfield wrote: >> >> > Jeff is still subscribed and is not set to nomail. >> >>I'm glad to hear that! I also had been thinking lately about how much >>we appreciated Jeff's being here with us to tell us what was going on, >>how much we liked him, etc. > He really did make it special. I hope it helped him, too. E.T. want to flyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 21:44:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJ3ik6q032059 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:44:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6EAF11E6006C; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:38:19 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 387121E60061 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:38:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4E0BD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:31:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 208588 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:31:03 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJ3V2Y25639 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:31:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.173.214]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031119033057.DKWK14203.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:30:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBAE3F3.D74D6451@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:30:59 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: TWD References: <20031119024117.42109.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > I found myself wondering what in the world Spencer > would think if you and the White Dog arrived at home > together. Would Spencer defend his territory aggressively? I've talked to Spencer about The White Dog -- not that I have had any plans of adopting TWD, but I would indeed bring him home if I could catch him. I talked to Spencer about him late this afternoon when we went for a brief walk after the rain. I told him that The White Dog had spent today wandering around campus in the pouring rain and that that was sad. And not long ago I told Spencer that it was a good thing he was rescued when he was -- that if he had been for a long time that he might have become skittish like TWD. Spencer was, in fact, somewhat like that when I first got him. But he has come around -- we snuggled on the couch while ago watching a tape I had made of a Hallmark movie, the name of which I've forgotten. It was moderately good. Re Spencer's attitude if TWD suddenly moved in with us, I think he'd be ok. He is pretty accepting of whatever comes along. But if that should occur, I would make it a point to give Spencer lots and lots of tlc, making him know that he was top dog, that I loved him dearly, etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 21:49:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJ3nB6q032109 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:49:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4F9511E60066; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:42:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 208541E60061 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:42:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4E0EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:35:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 208798 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:35:27 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJ3ZRY26210 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:35:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.173.214]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031119033522.DMLF14203.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:35:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBAE4F6.7ACE4234@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:35:18 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two Matters References: <17a.22b3630b.2cec347b@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > > In a message dated 11/18/2003 12:13:37 PM, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: > >Re when women bear children, my mother also had children in her 30's, and > > my husband was born to parents who were 47 (ma) and 56 (pa); but a mother > > over age 50 is quite unusual. Adoption or an error in the records seems > >like > > a better guess. > ------------- > First of all, my mother was NOT in trouble, and passing off the children as > the grandma's was perhaps "common" in this country, but not where I came from. > They only got married to give me my dad's last name. In those days, and now, > it's no shame to live together until the woman gets pregnant. So now you > know.And I don't blame you if you're gelous! I'm a bit lost here. What exactly is clo supposed to be gelous of? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 21:54:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJ3sb6q032232 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:54:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B800E1E6029A; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:48:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 896011E60059 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:48:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4E0DB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:40:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 208904 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:40:52 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJ3eqY26669 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:40:52 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.173.214]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031119034046.DODH14203.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:40:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBAE640.D33526B0@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:40:48 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Oooh, freaky! References: <20031119025505.41561.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > May I drift off-topic for a moment to ask how often > obituaries mention "live-in boyfriends"? I've seen > "long-time companion", "special friend", "loved one", > etc. "Live-in" whatever seems just a little blunt. I > don't remember ever having seen it before. Usually if I see "companion," I think live-in lover, but if I see "long-time friend," I think something like a domestic helper. I don't know about the others. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 21:55:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJ3tU6q032246 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:55:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 362B61E60071; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:49:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 059361E6006C for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:49:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4E0DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:41:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 208929 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:41:46 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJ3fkY26727 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:41:46 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.173.214]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031119034141.DOKP14203.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:41:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBAE676.2CD1C2A0@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:41:42 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Oooh, freaky! References: <20031119030122.43426.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Coming in late as I did, after Alyce's passing, I find > it quite impressive what an impact she has made on so > many lives. She had a huge impact. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 22:07:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJ47T6q032426 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:07:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 450801E60072; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:01:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173AE1E60071 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:01:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4E105@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:53:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 209284 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:53:45 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAJ3rjY28016 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:53:45 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:53:38 PST Message-ID: <20031119035338.27368.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:53:38 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Two Matters To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FBAE4F6.7ACE4234@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > I'm a bit lost here. What exactly is clo supposed > to be gelous of? Indeed, I got so lost, I went and lost my reply to Theo's post. What lost me, though, is why it was shameful to live together AFTER the woman became pregnant. And if Theo's mother was not "in trouble", why it was so important for Theo to have her father's name. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 18 22:21:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJ4Ld6q032577 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:21:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B3CE91E60072; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:15:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 815431E6006B for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:15:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4E314@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 23:07:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 213699 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 23:07:54 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJ47sY30863 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 23:07:54 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAJ47ok9009043 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:07:52 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002a01c3ae52$ba2a6e00$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031119025505.41561.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: Oooh, freaky! Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:08:01 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Snopes says true: > > > > http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/obituary.asp > > May I drift off-topic for a moment to ask how often > obituaries mention "live-in boyfriends"? I've seen > "long-time companion", "special friend", "loved one", > etc. "Live-in" whatever seems just a little blunt. I > don't remember ever having seen it before. > I have never seen live-in boyfriend before. Anyway, I finally read the article on snopes and it certainly answered some questions for me in regard to the request for memorials. Madison, Wisconsin . . well, that says it all. - D. M. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 00:34:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJ6Y06q001468 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 00:34:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 609521E602CB; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 00:27:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC7731E602CA for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 00:27:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001ECBD7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 1:20:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 221127 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 01:20:14 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJ6KEY13536 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 01:20:14 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001ECC05@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 1:20:13 -0500 Message-Id: <200311190620.hAJ6KEY13536@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 01:20:14 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Two Matters To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 14:59:09 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: (2) Would it be out of the question for a 58-yr-old woman to have a baby >in 1824? > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) and CLO answered: It's a heck of a lot more likely that she had a 15 yr-old daughter at the time, who was unmarried. clo On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:50:35 EST, Theo Groothof wrote: >>>----Huh???? My mother had me at 34 years. People had more sense then, >>than the today's US girls do! >>>Theo CLO answered: >>Well, I don't comprehend what your mother has to do with this, but in >>response to the "huh", >> many families with a girl "in trouble" have raised the child >> as a sibling to the daughter, passing it off as the grandmother's child. >>Re when women bear children, my mother also had children in her 30's, and >> my husband was born to parents who were 47 (ma) and 56 (pa); but a mother >> over age 50 is quite unusual. Adoption or an error in the records seems >>like a better guess. >Then Theo said, >First of all, my mother was NOT in trouble, and passing off the children as >the grandma's was perhaps "common" in this country, but not where I came >from. >They only got married to give me my dad's last name. In those days, and now, >it's no shame to live together until the woman gets pregnant. So now you >know.And I don't blame you if you're gelous! >Theo Oh, I understand now why you talked about your Mother. It's not because she was 30. It's because she was unmarried at the time. Yes, the tradition of living together without marriage until there are children, and then marrying to give them their father's last name (and inheritance rights) is different from what I'm talking about. It makes good sense for women to keep their babies if they are in a serious relationship as adults, of course - being married isn't important then. That's my own case, in fact: I married when 5 months pregnant. A fifteen year old girl whose child is the result of, perhaps, a one-night stand or a rape, however, is in a different situation. Here's one example I know of: Older sister has two dates for the evening. She asks her younger sister to go out with the man she likes the least. Mr. Second Date, in revenge, rapes the younger sister and impregnates her. The fifteen year old mother's parents adopt and raise the baby, in order to give the teen mother a chance to live a more normal young womanhood. She finishes high school, marries, and has other children. Later in her life, she acknowledges her daughter and they establish a close relationship. In my family (5 siblings, 24 first cousins depending on who you count as cousins, 11 aunts and uncles, perhaps 50 or more 1st cousins once removed, and a tradition of counting cousins as far away as 3rd cousins as kin) and looking back for 5-10 generations in various branches, there are 5-6 of these intergenerational adoptions I know of or strongly suspect, 2 in my generation. In some ways it's a matrilineal family, so it may happen more regularly with us. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 00:39:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJ6db6q001536 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 00:39:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2BDAC1E602CF; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 00:33:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0BD21E602CA for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 00:33:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4E66F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 1:25:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 221206 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 01:25:48 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJ6PmY13951 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 01:25:48 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001ECC11@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 1:25:48 -0500 Message-Id: <200311190625.hAJ6PmY13951@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 01:25:48 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Oooh, freaky! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:55:05 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Natalie Maynor wrote: >> Snopes says true: >> >> http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/obituary.asp > >May I drift off-topic for a moment to ask how often >obituaries mention "live-in boyfriends"? I've seen >"long-time companion", "special friend", "loved one", >etc. "Live-in" whatever seems just a little blunt. I >don't remember ever having seen it before. Some families ask to write their own obits, and the language is usually less , let's say, in them. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 00:43:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJ6hf6q001621 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 00:43:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 036C11E6007C; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 00:37:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C85A91E60077 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 00:37:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4E679@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 1:29:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 221220 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 01:29:47 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJ6TlY14187 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 01:29:47 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001ECC10@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 1:29:46 -0500 Message-Id: <200311190629.hAJ6TlY14187@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 01:29:47 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: TWD To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:30:59 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Lynne Weber wrote: > >> I found myself wondering what in the world Spencer >> would think if you and the White Dog arrived at home >> together. Would Spencer defend his territory aggressively? > >I've talked to Spencer about The White Dog -- not that I have had any >plans of adopting TWD, but I would indeed bring him home if I could >catch him. I talked to Spencer about him late this afternoon when we >went for a brief walk after the rain. I told him that The White Dog had >spent today wandering around campus in the pouring rain and that that >was sad. And not long ago I told Spencer that it was a good thing he >was rescued when he was -- that if he had been for a >long time that he might have become skittish like TWD. Spencer was, in >fact, somewhat like that when I first got him. But he has come around >-- we snuggled on the couch while ago watching a tape I had made of a >Hallmark movie, the name of which I've forgotten. It was moderately >good. > Speaking of movies, I watched The Whale Rider with my sister this weekend. It's very powerful. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 00:48:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJ6mU6q001637 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 00:48:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5EED91E60074; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 00:42:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1E581E602CA for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 00:42:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4E672@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 1:34:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 221245 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 01:34:43 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJ6YhY14443 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 01:34:43 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001ECC17@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 1:34:43 -0500 Message-Id: <200311190634.hAJ6YhY14443@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 01:34:43 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Oooh, freaky! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:40:48 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Lynne Weber wrote: > >> May I drift off-topic for a moment to ask how often >> obituaries mention "live-in boyfriends"? I've seen >> "long-time companion", "special friend", "loved one", >> etc. "Live-in" whatever seems just a little blunt. I >> don't remember ever having seen it before. > >Usually if I see "companion," I think live-in lover, but if I see >"long-time friend," I think something like a domestic helper. I don't >know about the others. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) LOL! Well, my aunt has a close friend down the road who deserves to be in her obit, but it's not either of those relationships. I do think that "companion" and "long-time companion" sound like they were living together, and it's the reporter's euphemism. but the "special friend" one always convinces me that the family didn't approve and can't bring themselves to say "lover" or "lived together". clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 00:52:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJ6qQ6q001705 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 00:52:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 01A421E6007C; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 00:45:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C68FF1E60077 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 00:45:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001ECBEA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 1:38:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 221318 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 01:38:24 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJ6cOY14848 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 01:38:24 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001ECC1D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 1:38:23 -0500 Message-Id: <200311190638.hAJ6cOY14848@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 01:38:23 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Two Matters To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:53:38 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Natalie Maynor wrote: >> I'm a bit lost here. What exactly is clo supposed >> to be gelous of? > > >Indeed, I got so lost, I went and lost my reply to >Theo's post. What lost me, though, is why it was >shameful to live together AFTER the woman became >pregnant. And if Theo's mother was not "in trouble", >why it was so important for Theo to have her father's name. > Where do you get "shameful" about living together after pregnancy? Theo doesn't imply shame at all, imho. As for the father's name, that's a custom, and they may have wanted to follow it. But I am interested in whether inheritance was easier back then, even in the Netherlands, if your parents were married. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 06:02:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJC2O6q004901 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 06:02:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D21871E60090; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 05:55:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A36A91E6008C for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 05:55:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4E973@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 6:48:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 228866 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 06:48:36 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJBmaY06742 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 06:48:36 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-184-130.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.184.130]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAJBmZ9u010484 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 05:48:35 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FBB5846.7030309@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 05:47:18 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: TWD References: <200311190629.hAJ6TlY14187@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:30:59 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >>Lynne Weber wrote: >> >> >>>I found myself wondering what in the world Spencer >>>would think if you and the White Dog arrived at home >>>together. Would Spencer defend his territory aggressively? >>> >>I've talked to Spencer about The White Dog -- not that I have had any >>plans of adopting TWD, but I would indeed bring him home if I could >>catch him. I talked to Spencer about him late this afternoon when we >>went for a brief walk after the rain. I told him that The White Dog had >>spent today wandering around campus in the pouring rain and that that >>was sad. And not long ago I told Spencer that it was a good thing he >>was rescued when he was -- that if he had been for a >>long time that he might have become skittish like TWD. Spencer was, in >>fact, somewhat like that when I first got him. But he has come around >>-- we snuggled on the couch while ago watching a tape I had made of a >>Hallmark movie, the name of which I've forgotten. It was moderately >>good. >> >> > > Speaking of movies, I watched The Whale Rider with my sister this weekend. > It's very powerful. - One of my students gave me Mememto and insisted I see it. He was right; it's an interesting movie. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 06:05:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJC5M6q004925 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 06:05:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C43401E60090; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 05:58:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 929061E6008B for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 05:58:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4E979@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 6:51:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 228915 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 06:51:29 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJBpTY06905 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 06:51:29 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.44]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031119115124.NVIP14456.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 06:51:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBB593D.2578DEB4@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 05:51:25 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Oooh, freaky! References: <4.2.2.20031118192627.00a43ab0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > > Oh, yes! I always thought that he should have been buried in his car. I still think of him every time I see a Miata. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 06:07:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJC7M6q004953 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 06:07:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DF2321E60090; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 06:00:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B17231E6008C for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 06:00:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4E973@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 6:53:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 228944 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 06:53:34 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJBrYY07009 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 06:53:34 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-184-130.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.184.130]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAJBrX9u011666 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 05:53:34 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FBB5969.4000505@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 05:52:09 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Oooh, freaky! References: <129.354ebacb.2cec3510@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > In a message dated 11/18/2003 5:05:57 PM, rouvalis@SWBELL.NET writes: > > >>Alyce posted a lot one year ago today. >>It was kind of nice to read her talking about book selling, >>meals on wheels, etc. >> > -------- > Don't worry; you'll get to some of it soon 'nuff!! Be more like Alyce? I hope so. She was a good person. I doubt I'll ever sell books, though. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 06:09:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJC916q004980 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 06:09:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 096701E6008C; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 06:02:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFAE01E6008B for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 06:02:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001ECE63@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 6:55:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 228984 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 06:55:14 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJBtDY07095 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 06:55:13 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.44]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031119115508.NWFT14456.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 06:55:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBB5A1D.6D5143C8@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 05:55:09 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Oooh, freaky! References: <20031119025505.41561.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> <002a01c3ae52$ba2a6e00$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > Anyway, I finally read the article on snopes and it > certainly answered some questions for me in > regard to the request for memorials. > Madison, Wisconsin . . well, that says it all. ? What does it say? I know little of Madison except that it's home of the U of Wisconsin. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 06:16:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJCGW6q005071 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 06:16:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C786D1E602DE; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 06:10:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B8641E60269 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 06:10:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001ECEAC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 7:02:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 229223 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 07:02:43 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJC2hY26190 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 07:02:43 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAJC2Wv8007656 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 06:02:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 06:03:31 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1656204013.20031119060331@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: TWD In-Reply-To: <3FBB5846.7030309@swbell.net> References: <200311190629.hAJ6TlY14187@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FBB5846.7030309@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 19, 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > One of my students gave me Mememto and insisted I see it. He > was right; it's an interesting movie. I watched it because Janet recommended it. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 07:12:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJDCr6q005666 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 07:12:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5C3B31E602E2; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 07:06:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28A2C1E602DE for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 07:06:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4EA49@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 7:59:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 230984 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 07:59:05 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJCx5Y31316 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 07:59:05 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-131.gwi.net [216.195.151.131]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAJCx2Ar022184 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 07:59:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031119075621.00b2bfa8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 07:59:03 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Oooh, freaky! In-Reply-To: <3FBB5A1D.6D5143C8@maynor.net> References: <20031119025505.41561.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> <002a01c3ae52$ba2a6e00$e1cadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Doris Markland wrote: > > Anyway, I finally read the article on snopes and it > > certainly answered some questions for me in > > regard to the request for memorials. > > Madison, Wisconsin . . well, that says it all. > >? What does it say? I know little of Madison except that it's home of >the U of Wisconsin. -- Natalie Possibly what Doris is hinting at is an attitude common in much of Wisconsin. Wisconsin is a politically conservative state except for Madison. If one heard of a Wisconsin anti-Bush obit, one would expect it to be from Madison. I think I've mentioned here before that in the 1960s the football fans of rural Wisconsin were certain that UW could win a football game if it weren't for "those goddam hippies." bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 07:40:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJDeI6q006073 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 07:40:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9EFEC1E602E6; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 07:33:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 711731E602E5 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 07:33:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4EAC8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 8:26:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 232244 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 08:26:30 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJDQUY02310 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 08:26:30 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAJDPdk9021971 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 07:25:41 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001d01c3aea0$a940c320$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031119025505.41561.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> <002a01c3ae52$ba2a6e00$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FBB5A1D.6D5143C8@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Oooh, freaky! Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 07:25:54 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Doris Markland wrote: > > > Anyway, I finally read the article on snopes and it > > certainly answered some questions for me in > > regard to the request for memorials. > > Madison, Wisconsin . . well, that says it all. > > ? What does it say? I know little of Madison except that it's home of > the U of Wisconsin. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Couple of reasons. First of all it's such a hotbed of liberals, even they joke about it. Secondly, the obituary pages in their local papers are full of long and sometimes unusual obits. They pay by the inch and so they can say whatever they want, not bound by rules that some newspapers follow. So some of them do tend to go on and on and on about every detail of that person's life. People compare notes on how much their loved one's obituary cost. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 07:48:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJDm56q006149 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 07:48:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CBDE71E602E6; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 07:41:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 970621E602E5 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 07:41:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4EADA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 8:34:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 232620 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 08:34:17 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAJDYHY03411 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 08:34:17 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 05:34:10 PST Message-ID: <20031119133410.71792.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 05:34:10 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Oooh, freaky! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200311190634.hAJ6YhY14443@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > I do think that "companion" and "long-time > companion" sound like they were > living together, and it's the reporter's euphemism. > > but the "special friend" one always convinces me > that the > family didn't approve and can't bring themselves to > say "lover" or "lived > together". D'accord. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 08:17:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJEHs6q006516 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 08:17:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F29501E602E6; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 08:11:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF8AD1E602E7 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 08:11:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4EC45@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 9:04:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 235586 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:04:04 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJE3MY10283 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:03:22 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-196.gwi.net [216.195.152.196]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAJE3IGp028112; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:03:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031119084637.00b18880@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 08:55:24 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Oooh, freaky! In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031119075621.00b2bfa8@pop.gwi.net> References: <3FBB5A1D.6D5143C8@maynor.net> <20031119025505.41561.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> <002a01c3ae52$ba2a6e00$e1cadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:59 AM 11/19/2003 -0500, bonniev wrote: >>Doris Markland wrote: >> > Anyway, I finally read the article on snopes and it >> > certainly answered some questions for me in >> > regard to the request for memorials. >> > Madison, Wisconsin . . well, that says it all. >> >>? What does it say? I know little of Madison except that it's home of >>the U of Wisconsin. -- Natalie > >Possibly what Doris is hinting at is an attitude common in much of >Wisconsin. Wisconsin is a politically conservative state except for >Madison. If one heard of a Wisconsin anti-Bush obit, one would expect it >to be from Madison. I think I've mentioned here before that in the 1960s >the football fans of rural Wisconsin were certain that UW could win a >football game if it weren't for "those goddam hippies." Perhaps it has changed, but even during the time of the Viet Nam War protests, the University was a liberal island in an otherwise very blue-collar, conservative city. One didn't have to wander too far from State Street or Mifflin Street to discover this, as some of my long-haired, bearded contemporaries painfully found out. That Madison finally elected young, liberal, Paul Soglin as mayor was, I believe, less a change in overall political philosophy than a reaction to the police-state tactics of his predecessors and that Soglin was working within the system to effect change. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 08:47:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJEl96q006871 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 08:47:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 753351E602E7; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 08:40:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 465A31E6020E for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 08:40:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4ED6B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 9:33:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 238530 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:33:21 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJEXLY17360 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:33:21 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-196.gwi.net [216.195.152.196]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAJEXIAt041392 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:33:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031119092315.00b41378@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:24:13 -0500 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: He probably voted for Aahnold, too Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://tinyurl.com/vo1y cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 08:55:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJEtr6q006951 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 08:55:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 325731E6020E; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 08:49:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0B181E60097 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 08:49:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4EDB4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 9:42:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 239320 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:42:05 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJEg4Y19424 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:42:04 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAJEfq5Z027464 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 08:42:04 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 08:42:52 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <127128189.20031119084252@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: He probably voted for Aahnold, too In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031119092315.00b41378@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031119092315.00b41378@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 19, 2003, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > http://tinyurl.com/vo1y But they haven't caught him yet! The police probably voted for Arnold, too... Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 09:52:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJFqi6q007551 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:52:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 40B731E6009A; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:46:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A80581E6006E for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:46:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4EFD2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:38:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 244467 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:38:54 -0500 Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJFcrD30767 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:38:54 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HOL00BQUVGRQ5@mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:38:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.73] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:34:24 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:34:24 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Two Matters To: English Language Discussion Group Cc: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Message-id: <90833b908b95.908b9590833b@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU FWIW, I have here in front of me a 1939 edition of Vital Statistics of the United States and in that year 4 children in the United States were born to women 55 years and over, and 199 children were born to women 50-54. These statistics weren't kept until the early 1920s. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 09:59:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJFxh6q007611 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:59:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 085731E6006E; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:53:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39EFF1E6009A for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:53:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4F00F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:45:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 244900 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:45:54 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJFjrD31841 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:45:53 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAJFjl5Z002931 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:45:51 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:46:48 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1501198121.20031119094648@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Two Matters In-Reply-To: <90833b908b95.908b9590833b@optonline.net> References: <90833b908b95.908b9590833b@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 19, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: > FWIW, I have here in front of me a 1939 edition of Vital Statistics > of the United States and in that year 4 children in the United > States were born to women 55 years and over, and 199 children were > born to women 50-54. > These statistics weren't kept until the early 1920s. See? Unusual but not impossible. Menopause babies!!! Atresia is your friend--or your enemy, depending on your POV. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 10:01:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJG1M6q007632 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:01:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E99A11E6009A; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:54:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C2C1E6006E for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:54:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001ED443@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:47:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 245051 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:47:33 -0500 Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJFlWD32153 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:47:32 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HOL00LYJVQ14Z@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:44:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.73] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:39:42 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:39:42 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Oooh, freaky! To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <90ac0590ca5d.90ca5d90ac05@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I think of Giggles often, most recently was last night (or the night before) when the Soup Nazi episode of Seinfeld was on. He tickled me. Also every time I see the name Sinclair... Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: Betty Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 10:27 pm Subject: Re: Oooh, freaky! > Oh, yes! I always thought that he should have been buried in his car. > > Betty > > At 09:21 PM 11/18/2003 -0600, Doris Smith wrote: > >She had a strong personality and was a kind woman. Another departed > >Words-Ler who had a big impact on most of the old timers here is > Gilbert>Smith, aka Giggles. > > > >Doris S > > > > > > > > > > I miss Alyce quite often. > > > > > > Coming in late as I did, after Alyce's passing, I find > > > it quite impressive what an impact she has made on so > > > many lives. > > > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 11:04:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJH4C6q008433 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:04:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B1BB71E600A6; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:57:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D7B51E600A3 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:57:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4F2F1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:50:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 250841 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:50:22 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJGeMD11657 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:40:22 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAJGdPhC010997 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:39:30 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:40:16 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: new refrigerator Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sears came through - the delivery was on time, and the guys got the refrigerator set up quickly. I love it - I have a water filtering system for the first time! (I tossed most stuff in the , kept everything in the old freezer except seafood.) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 11:08:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJH826q008458 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:08:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C1DD71E600AA; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:01:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 442551E600A8 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:01:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4F31E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:54:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 252196 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:54:12 -0500 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJGsBD14516 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:54:11 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.14c.26fcb563 (4012) for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:53:52 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <14c.26fcb563.2cecfa20@aol.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:53:52 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] new refrigerator To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/19/2003 10:50:41 AM Central Standard Time, dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes: << Sears came through - the delivery was on time, and the guys got the refrigerator set up quickly. >> What brand? Did you get the Protection Agreement? How many egg slots? Side-by-side, freezer on top, or freezer on the bottom? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 11:29:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJHTm6q008693 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:29:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CB65E1E600AA; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:23:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DF251E600A8 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:23:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001ED7CB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:15:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 254431 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:15:48 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJHFkD19835 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:15:46 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAJHFSl6009464 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:15:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:16:36 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <15510581440.20031119111636@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: The other book MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Well, no one asked, but the other book I was reading was "The Escher Twist" by Jane Langton. It's an okay mystery, but I really liked all the Escher quotes etc. It fit in with other reading/things that are happening with my life right now, so I found it very satisfying. If you like Mt. Auburn cemetery, I think it's a good book to read. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 12:01:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJI1I6q009073 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:01:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 06A6F1E602EF; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:54:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16CF01E602EB for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:54:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4F4F6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:47:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 256825 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:47:01 -0500 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJHl0D25664 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:47:00 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.17a.22ba7f6d (3948) for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:46:44 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <17a.22ba7f6d.2ced0684@aol.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:46:44 EST Subject: Re: Two Matters To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/19/2003 12:38:41 AM, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: >Theo doesn't imply shame at all, imho. > >As for the father's name, that's a custom, and they may have wanted to >follow it ----------- Thank you Clo, I *think*. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 12:13:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJIDT6q009186 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:13:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6386C1E602EF; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:06:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD8AB1E602EE for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:06:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4F586@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:59:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 257130 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:59:38 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJHnaD26278 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:49:37 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAJHmhhC009776 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:48:44 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:49:34 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: new refrigerator In-Reply-To: <14c.26fcb563.2cecfa20@aol.com> Message-ID: References: <14c.26fcb563.2cecfa20@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Evelyn Duncan wrote: >What brand? Did you get the Protection Agreement? >How many egg slots? Side-by-side, freezer on top, or >freezer on the bottom? Kenmore by Whirlpool. 3-year service agr (includes annual cleaning, new filter, etc. + all service calls). No egg slots. side-by-side. I also got free delivery (rebate) + a $10 coupon off clothing on 11/22 - are they going to raise the prices for 11/22? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 12:22:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJIMr6q009342 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:22:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 94B821E602F1; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:16:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE67C1E600AE for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:16:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4F5D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:09:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 258993 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:09:02 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJI8uD30342 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:09:01 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:08:41 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B777C7@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: yikes Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:08:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Evelyn Duncan [mailto:BrandyKitt@AOL.COM] > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 6:18 PM > In a message dated 11/14/2003 5:07:58 PM Central Standard Time, > natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: > << > Aren't fatty foods suddenly in again? Somebody at lunch > today said that > he'd read that red meat, pork rinds, and eggs were soaring > these days in > sales volumn. > >> > > Anything low-carb is soaring in sales due to the Atkins diet. > Bakers and orange-juice manufactures are suffering due to > the same reason. I would say Atkins (recently deceased) may not have created the diet himself. There was an article in Scientific American (?) within the previous 3-5 months which discussed how medical conditions were diagnosed over time (e.g., sampling a patient's urine in ancient Greece) then went on to describe how one particular physician dealt with diabetes ~100 years ago. He removed ALL carbs from their diets - perhaps not all, but as much as possible. The patients looked like Karen Carpenter's poster hero but they were able to survive. The first thing I thought about after reading it was, "So THAT'S where Atkins got his idea for the diet." From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 12:33:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJIX76q009504 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:33:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3B7491E602F2; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:26:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7AF1E602F1 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:26:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4F63A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:19:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 260075 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:19:16 -0500 Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJIJFD00391 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:19:15 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HOM003YR2UTNX@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:18:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:14:11 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:14:11 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: TWD To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <955abf94f3d7.94f3d7955abf@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Speaking of movies, I watched The Whale Rider with my sister > this weekend. > > It's very powerful. It's sitting in my mail pile in its NetFlix envelope right now just waiting for me... > One of my students gave me Mememto and insisted I see it. He > was right; it's an interesting movie. Loved it. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 13:36:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJJaa6q010292 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:36:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3500A1E6032E; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:30:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 671E91E6005A for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:30:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4F8E5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:22:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 266580 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:22:45 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJJMhD17015 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:22:44 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:22:37 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B777D2@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Two Matters Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:22:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Marie Ascher [mailto:14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET] > Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 10:34 AM > FWIW, I have here in front of me a 1939 edition of Vital > Statistics of the United States and in that year 4 children > in the United States were born to women 55 years and over, > and 199 children were born to women 50-54. > > These statistics weren't kept until the early 1920s. I don't know what the current record is but when I used to buy the Guiness book every year, the record for the oldest mother to conceive and deliver ala natural was fifty-nine. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 14:24:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJKOC6q010904 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:24:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 862B81E600B6; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:17:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF81D1E600B1 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:17:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4FA77@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:10:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 270632 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:10:19 -0500 Received: from mail1.murraystate.edu (mail.mursuky.edu [216.249.159.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAJKAHD28655 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:10:17 -0500 Received: from trioets89712 (216.249.149.232) by mail1.murraystate.edu (7.0.008) id 3F5503F1004A471A for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:08:53 -0600 Message-ID: <00c201c3aed8$b0fac7e0$e895f9d8@msunet2k.edu> From: "Amy Burns Short" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: Re: Back to the sources Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:06:59 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >or "Ad fontes": I have applied to become a part-time student at the Univ. of Oslo where I hope to get a MA in Classical >Greek. So I have started to read Xenophon again and find that I still understand the classical language better than the >modern - at least so far as I know the grammar and the language structur. But my modern Greek vocabulary and knowledge >of idioms are growing. >Gaudeamus igitur .. >Espen Very good! And I have recently applied to get a second MA in English -- I only have to take a few more courses on top of what I already have. I can probably finish everything except for the comps before I move to Arizona. AS From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 14:25:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJKPS6q010921 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:25:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 02E141E600B1; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:18:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F29A1E60097 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:18:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A4FA88@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:11:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 270724 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:11:17 -0500 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.142.130]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJKBED28842 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:11:15 -0500 Received: from c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net ([24.5.188.31] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AMYfl-00077S-UQ for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:11:34 -0500 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031119120601.034bdd58@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:10:22 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Two Matters In-Reply-To: <90833b908b95.908b9590833b@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher writes, >FWIW, I have here in front of me a 1939 edition of Vital Statistics of the >United States and in that year 4 children in the United States were born >to women 55 years and over, and 199 children were born to women 50-54. Useful information, with the caveat that it's demographic data of uncertain veracity, instead of well-documented medical fact. It's also worth noting that the birthdate data on the moms would come from 1884-1889 or even earlier. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 15:09:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJL9g6q011493 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:09:42 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7457F1E600BE; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:03:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65C241E600B7 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:03:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4FC0A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:55:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 274642 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:55:49 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAJKtmD09428 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:55:48 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:55:46 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:51:51 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: from another list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hAJL9g6q011493 A Modest Proposal for DOMA After listening to the news on the radio this morning, it became clear to me that the institution of heterosexual marriage, despite a multi-thousand year history, is fragile. Many of those permitted to engage in the practice cry for its defense, and -- being currently excluded -- who am I to disagree? In the spirit of helping my heterosexual brethren, I offer the following "Modest Proposal for a Defense of Marriage Act." First, let's start with the idea of marriage as an avenue for procreation. The lower court in Massachusetts wrote that heterosexual couples are at least 'theoretically'capable of procreation and do not need to resort to the more 'cumbersome non-coital' means of homosexual couples. The lower court perhaps doesn't take this far enough. So let us posit as the first tenet of our defense of marriage act: *a fertility test.* The designation of 'barren woman' will again come into currency as post-menopausal woman and the infertile of either gender will be excluded from gaining a marriage license. Only with such a test can we move beyond the shifting sands of the theoretical into the concrete. Moving beyond procreation, it is obvious that marriage faces vast threats from all sides. The incidence of marital dissolution has been on the upswing for decade. Hence, any true defense of marriage must include our second tenet: *the prohibition of divorce.* Marriages, if they are to be truly defended, must again be for life. There are, of course, those compassionate onservatives who will have concern for the welfare of the men and women in such unions, particularly as they become unable to use divorce as a means for escaping marital abuse. And they are right. It is clear that *spousal abuse must be punished by death.* These abusers threaten the very sanctity of marriage, and an example must be made. Finally, of course, the exclusivity of marriage between 'one man and one woman' is undermined wholly by the practice of adultery. Therefore, adultery, too, must be punishable by law. As most states already have ineffective laws on the books regarding adultery, it is clear that judges have adjudicated their rights and responsibilities on this matter. Therefore, *mandatory sentencing laws must be passed down for those who commit adultery.* I hope that you, my fellow Americans, will see that the above measures will keep marriage safe from the onslaught of adverse cultural tides that threaten it for all of us. I hope such laws will lead to the comfort of my heterosexual brethren, deeply insecure as they are by the rights now being extended to those who -- I dare say -- may well take the above more seriously than many currently sanctified by the rights and obligations of that holy union. Katrina Alliasan, 2003 anti-copyrighted -- forward at Will From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 15:21:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJLLi6q011653 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:21:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E18FB1E600C5; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:15:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6A3E1E600BE for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:15:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4FCCD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:07:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 276756 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:07:52 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJL7pD13624 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:07:51 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAJL7neO016947 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:07:49 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAJL7ma2016911; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:07:48 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031119125940.00b8bca8@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:03:46 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Back to the sources In-Reply-To: <00c201c3aed8$b0fac7e0$e895f9d8@msunet2k.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:06 PM 11/19/2003 -0600, Amy Burns Short wrote: > >or "Ad fontes": I have applied to become a part-time student at the Univ. >of Oslo where I hope to get a MA in Classical >Greek. So I have started to >read Xenophon again and find that I still understand the classical language >better than the >modern - at least so far as I know the grammar and the >language structur. But my modern Greek vocabulary and knowledge >of idioms >are growing. > > >Gaudeamus igitur .. > > >Espen > >Very good! > >And I have recently applied to get a second MA in English -- I only have to >take a few more courses on top of what I already have. I can probably finish >everything except for the comps before I move to Arizona. > >AS Good for you! I don't know how you all find the time. Rita makes me tired just reading about what she does. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 15:57:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJLvw6q012206 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:57:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0380F1E6018C; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:51:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A6F31E6009E for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:51:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A4FE63@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:44:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 280580 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:44:05 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAJLi4D24403 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:44:04 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:43:58 PST Message-ID: <20031119214358.44780.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:43:58 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Two Matters To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200311190638.hAJ6cOY14848@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >Indeed, I got so lost, I went and lost my reply to > >Theo's post. What lost me, though, is why it was > >shameful to live together AFTER the woman became > >pregnant. And if Theo's mother was not "in > trouble", > >why it was so important for Theo to have her > father's name. > Where do you get "shameful" about living together > after pregnancy? Theo wrote: "In those days, and now, it's no shame to live together until the woman gets pregnant." I interpret this as meaning, UNTIL such time as the woman gets pregnant, there is no shame in living together. Flawed interpretation on my part, I suppose. > > Theo doesn't imply shame at all, imho. > > As for the father's name, that's a custom, and they > may have wanted to > follow it. What is custom? To enter into a fraudulent contract, either civil or spiritual, is justifiable in order to give a child a father's name? To continue in a bogus relationship in order to provide a father's name for subsequent children is not an empty gesture? It seems to me that to live a lie is much more deserving of scorn than to own up to unmarried parenthood. What is the ultimate effect of this custom on the children? "Well, my parents really cared about my surname. The fact that everybody knew I was a bastard didn't matter in the least to them." You must be speaking of a Dutch custom, as I do not think it customary in this country or several others internationally. I am also interested in the legal ramifications of this custom. That is the part the children must care most about. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 16:02:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJM2J6q012257 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:02:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DFD591E6018C; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:55:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 423C31E600BA for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:55:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A4FEA5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:48:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 281056 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:48:26 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAJLmQD25781 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:48:26 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:48:20 PST Message-ID: <20031119214820.84110.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:48:20 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Oooh, freaky! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FBB5A1D.6D5143C8@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > ? What does it say? I know little of Madison > except that it's home of > the U of Wisconsin. Madison, Wisconsin, is considered by "conservatives' and many others, to be the most liberal place in the country - even more so than some CA cities and New England. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 16:36:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJMa96q012695 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:36:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BD57D1E600C4; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:29:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75A1C1E600BB for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:29:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5001F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:22:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 284636 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:22:12 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAJMMCD01675 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:22:12 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:22:06 PST Message-ID: <20031119222206.30096.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:22:06 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Oooh, freaky! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200311190625.hAJ6PmY13951@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Some families ask to write their own obits, and the > language is usually less , let's say, in > them. Fine with me. I was just wondering if it were more prevalent than I had imagined. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 17:14:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJNED6q013032 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:14:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 42A3F1E600BB; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:07:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF4A71E600BA for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:07:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001EE452@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:00:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 287445 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:00:19 -0500 Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJN0HD10325 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:00:17 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HOM008Y1FW9CO@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:00:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.80] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:55:45 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:55:45 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Most Americans have been... To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Message-id: <1709b1792b.1792b1709b@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a Harris Poll I just finished taking, early results show that only 23.3% of responders have never been to Europe. (how's that for limited veracity, Pete?) Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 17:23:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJNN26q013098 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:23:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 89A3D1E600C4; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:16:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50EC31E600C2 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:16:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A501AE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:09:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 288261 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:09:10 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJN99D12297 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:09:09 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.148.187]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031119230849.LFFH11940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:08:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBBF802.FA9C9B0A@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:08:50 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Worrying about TWD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The White Dog seems more lethargic than he used to. I'm worried about him. I spoke to him again today and told him that I was worried. He looked at me with his reddish eyes but didn't say anything. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 17:23:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJNNl6q013101 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:23:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D0B2A1E600C4; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:17:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 938DA1E600C2 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:17:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A501B2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:09:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 288303 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:09:55 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJN9sD12421 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:09:54 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAJN9pQb014762 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:09:52 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000401c3aef2$44946380$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <1709b1792b.1792b1709b@optonline.net> Subject: Re: Most Americans have been... Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:10:03 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > In a Harris Poll I just finished taking, early results show that only 23.3% of responders have never been to Europe. > > (how's that for limited veracity, Pete?) > > Marie I would expect that figure to be much lower. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 17:36:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJNaI6q013270 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:36:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C8EA01E600C7; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:29:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95AA71E600C4 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:29:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A501DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:22:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 289033 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:22:26 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAJNMQD15561 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:22:26 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:22:21 PST Message-ID: <20031119232221.83979.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:22:21 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FBBF802.FA9C9B0A@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > The White Dog seems more lethargic than he used to. > I'm worried about > him. I spoke to him again today and told him that I > was worried. He > looked at me with his reddish eyes but didn't say > anything. There's always the possibility he may have gotten into some foodish thing that did not agree with him. He doesn't have any visible problems, i.e., limping, drooling, tail-tucking? I've been meaning to mention to Marie what she probably already knows - that talking to animals is as important to them and in their development, as talking to children and (even Wordslers). I believe they (dogs) not only need the social interplay, they need to learn some of the words. IMO, that is. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 17:36:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJNal6q013274 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:36:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 87D7F1E600C7; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:30:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 587221E600C4 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:30:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A501F1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:22:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 289053 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:22:55 -0500 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.99]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJNMtD15644 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:22:55 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.43.252b2b38 (16930) for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:22:35 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <43.252b2b38.2ced553b@aol.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:22:35 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] new refrigerator To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/19/2003 12:00:19 PM Central Standard Time, dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes: << a $10 coupon off clothing on 11/22 - are they going to raise the prices for 11/22? >> I don't know, but that's a Saturday, and there are a lot of Saturday-only specials. What we needed were Wednesday-only specials; Wednesday is the slowest day at Sears. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 17:37:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJNbG6q013282 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:37:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A0A5F1E600C7; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:30:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FC691E600C4 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:30:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A501F4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:23:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 289087 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:23:24 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAJNNOD15752 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:23:24 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:23:19 PST Message-ID: <20031119232319.15698.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:23:19 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Most Americans have been... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <000401c3aef2$44946380$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > > In a Harris Poll I just finished taking, early > results show that only > 23.3% of responders have never been to Europe. > > > > (how's that for limited veracity, Pete?) > > > > Marie > > I would expect that figure to be much lower. > > - D. M. 100% of me has never been to Europe. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 17:39:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJNd96q013290 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:39:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0F0951E600C4; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:32:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C775D1E600BB for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:32:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5020F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:25:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 289295 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:25:17 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAJNPHD16340 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:25:17 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:25:09 PST Message-ID: <20031119232509.54513.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:25:09 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: new refrigerator To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <43.252b2b38.2ced553b@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > > I don't know, but that's a Saturday, and there are a > lot of > Saturday-only specials. What we needed were > Wednesday-only > specials; Wednesday is the slowest day at Sears. It's Sears' loss. A little nugget of knowledge like that has made CEO's, I"ll bet. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 17:39:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJNdJ6q013293 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:39:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5CB801E600C4; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:32:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BDF71E600BB for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:32:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A50208@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:25:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 289310 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:25:27 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJNPQD16375 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:25:26 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAJNPM5Z029775 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:25:26 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:26:24 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1607686709.20031119172624@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: yikes In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B777C7@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B777C7@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 19, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > I would say Atkins (recently deceased) may not have created the diet > himself. "may not have"? This is a terrific example of setting up a straw man to knock down. If you thought he created it, I suspect you were the only one. He merely formalized some pieces and popularized it. > The first thing I thought about after reading it was, "So THAT'S where > Atkins got his idea for the diet." Yes. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 17:42:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJNgs6q013302 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:42:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 113CB1E600C4; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:36:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5AD81E600BB for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:36:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A50221@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:29:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 289471 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:28:51 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJNSpD17035 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:28:51 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAJNSb5Z003116 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:28:49 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:29:39 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <010377148.20031119172939@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Two Matters In-Reply-To: <20031119214358.44780.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031119214358.44780.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 19, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> As for the father's name, that's a custom, and they >> may have wanted to >> follow it. > What is custom? To enter into a fraudulent contract, > either civil or spiritual, is justifiable in order to > give a child a father's name? What is fraudulent?! > It seems to me that to live a lie is much more deserving of scorn > than to own up to unmarried parenthood. LOL. That's a *very* 21st century POV. > You must be speaking of a > Dutch custom, > as I do not think it customary in this country or > several others internationally. To marry for the sake of giving a name? Sure it is. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 17:44:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJNiW6q013314 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:44:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EE8EC1E600D0; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:37:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD1AA1E600C7 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:37:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A50228@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:30:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 289562 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:30:40 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJNUeD17387 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:30:40 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAJNUU5Z004885 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:30:38 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:31:32 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <15410554925.20031119173132@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Most Americans have been... In-Reply-To: <000401c3aef2$44946380$e1cadece@0018079268> References: <1709b1792b.1792b1709b@optonline.net> <000401c3aef2$44946380$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 19, 2003, Doris Markland wrote: >> In a Harris Poll I just finished taking, early results show that only > 23.3% of responders have never been to Europe. >> >> (how's that for limited veracity, Pete?) >> >> Marie > I would expect that figure to be much lower. These are people who are taking an online Harris Poll--a pretty select group, I think. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 17:47:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJNlQ6q013359 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:47:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A6BF01E600C4; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:40:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 721EB1E600BB for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:40:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A50239@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:33:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 289740 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:33:34 -0500 Received: from leda.hmdnsgroup.com (leda.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.142.130]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJNXYD18006 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:33:34 -0500 Received: from c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net ([24.5.188.31] helo=bertha.istori.com) by leda.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AMbpd-0006P3-Uv for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:33:58 -0500 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031119153011.0253c638@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:32:44 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Most Americans have been... In-Reply-To: <1709b1792b.1792b1709b@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leda.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher writes, >(how's that for limited veracity, Pete?) It gibes with popular words-l opinion, no? :) Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 17:50:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJNoi6q013386 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:50:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F40251E600D0; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:44:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C63001E600C7 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:44:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5023C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:36:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 289868 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:36:52 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJNaqD18672 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:36:52 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-184-130.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.184.130]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAJNaIVs026129 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:36:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FBBFE46.5080608@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:35:34 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: TWD References: <200311190629.hAJ6TlY14187@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FBB5846.7030309@swbell.net> <1656204013.20031119060331@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > On Wednesday, November 19, 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > >> One of my students gave me Mememto and insisted I see it. He >>was right; it's an interesting movie. >> > > I watched it because Janet recommended it. I'm finding it fun to be reminded that teenagers have the time to go over and over a movie to find every nuance. He's sent me back to the DVD a couple of times to see little clues, but they were things I'd already figured out anyway. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 17:53:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJNrJ6q013406 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:53:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 55FC41E600C7; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:46:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 267341E600C4 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:46:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A50242@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:39:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 290079 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:39:21 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJNdLD19412 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:39:21 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.148.187]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031119233916.LQEF11940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:39:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBBFF25.BE1F0125@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:39:17 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Most Americans have been... References: <1709b1792b.1792b1709b@optonline.net> <000401c3aef2$44946380$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > > In a Harris Poll I just finished taking, early results show that only > 23.3% of responders have never been to Europe. > > > > (how's that for limited veracity, Pete?) > > > > Marie > > I would expect that figure to be much lower. Depends on who the poll-takers were, of course. I'd say that 76.7% is a pretty large hunk of the population to have been to Europe. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 17:59:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAJNxB6q013465 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:59:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8CB7F1E602F3; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:52:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 591171E602B4 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:52:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A50271@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:45:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 290304 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:45:19 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJNjJD20462 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:45:19 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.148.187]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031119234514.LSRZ11940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:45:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBC008B.6839E815@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:45:15 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD References: <20031119232221.83979.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > There's always the possibility he may have gotten into > some foodish thing that did not agree with him. He > doesn't have any visible problems, i.e., limping, > drooling, tail-tucking? No limping or drooling or tail-tucking (except that he sort of tucks his tail when bolting away from somebody who gets too close -- but he's always done that). I did see what appeared to be a on the side of his leg -- sort of red and raw looking. He is in need of medical attention. That article in The Reflector last week said that he has kennel cough, though I have never seen/heard him coughing. He's very quiet, except when chasing bicycles or wheelchairs, and I haven't seen him doing that lately. He's quieter now. That also is worrisome. > I've been meaning to mention to Marie what she > probably already knows - that talking to animals is as > important to them and in their development, as talking > to children and (even Wordslers). I believe they > (dogs) not only need the social interplay, they need > to learn some of the words. IMO, that is. But I can't imagine not talking to animals anyway -- as in whether it's good for them or not. (And I agree with you that it's good for them.) It would seem so very strange not to have conversations with Spencer -- or with random other dogs I meet. And I talked quite a bit to those cats I was feeding. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 18:00:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK00I6q013480 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:00:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 781231E600D0; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:53:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 418FA1E600C7 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:53:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A50272@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:46:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 290389 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:46:26 -0500 Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJNkQD20663 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:46:26 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1c9.12043011 (16930) for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:46:14 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1c9.12043011.2ced5ac6@aol.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:46:14 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] new refrigerator To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/19/2003 5:36:16 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << It's Sears' loss. A little nugget of knowledge like that has made CEO's, I"ll bet. >> Even though I no longer work there I'm still interested in the company. I've seen it go from a place in which people were honored to work for to a place where the associates are treated like dirt. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 18:03:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK03d6q013517 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:03:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 72EC81E6018C; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:57:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 441F61E600D0 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:57:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A50275@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:49:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 290559 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:49:47 -0500 Received: from imo-r01.mx.aol.com (imo-r01.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.97]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJNnlD21241 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:49:47 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.11e.27bfcd9d (16930) for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:49:38 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <11e.27bfcd9d.2ced5b92@aol.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:49:38 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Worrying about TWD To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie, I think it's time that a vet took a look at him. Poor dog; he needs someone to care for him. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 18:11:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK0Bx6q013675 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:11:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2E6931E601F9; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:04:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF5811E600D0 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:04:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A50288@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:56:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 290756 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:56:47 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJNukD22441 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:56:46 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.148.187]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031119235641.LXCN11940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:56:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBC033A.785981D8@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:56:42 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD References: <11e.27bfcd9d.2ced5b92@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > > Natalie, I think it's time that a vet took a look at him. Poor dog; > he needs someone to care for him. Yes. A vet probably looked at him when he was at the shelter since I think a vet goes there once a week (and he was there something like two weeks). Also, the shelter workers are pretty good for lay people at knowing what's what with dog and cat health. But he needs to be recaptured. I hated seeing him wandering around in the rain yesterday. I also wonder what his life is going to be like if he's still wandering around campus when the students are gone next week. Many students are also getting stressed out now, as is normal at this time in the semester. That might make them less likely to pay attention to Casper. How is your dog-cat life going? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 18:16:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK0GH6q013746 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:16:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5BF031E601F9; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:09:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A5CA1E600CE for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:09:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A502A7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:02:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 290912 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:02:25 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAK02OD23512 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:02:24 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAK01gQb028598 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:01:43 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002b01c3aef9$82bcb200$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031119232319.15698.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: Most Americans have been... Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:01:55 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > --- Doris Markland wrote: > > > In a Harris Poll I just finished taking, early > > results show that only > > 23.3% of responders have never been to Europe. > > > > > > (how's that for limited veracity, Pete?) > > > > > > Marie > > > > I would expect that figure to be much lower. > > > > - D. M. > > 100% of me has never been to Europe. Well, Lynne, it's not a piece-meal experience. When you do go to Europe I hope all of you goes. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 18:18:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK0Ic6q013766 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:18:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B417B1E602B4; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:12:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80EA61E601F9 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:12:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001EE5F3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:04:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 291001 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:04:46 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAK04kD23855 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:04:46 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAK04cv8001308 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:04:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:05:40 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <161972654.20031119180540@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Most Americans have been... In-Reply-To: <002b01c3aef9$82bcb200$e1cadece@0018079268> References: <20031119232319.15698.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> <002b01c3aef9$82bcb200$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 19, 2003, Doris Markland wrote: > Well, Lynne, it's not a piece-meal > experience. When you do go to > Europe I hope all of you goes. I hope so, too. But it was piece-meal for quite a few Americans who left limbs there. Or the kid who donated his organs to a bunch of Italians. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 18:27:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK0Ra6q013905 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:27:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4CBA31E601F9; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:21:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1955C1E600CC for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:21:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A502EF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:13:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 291578 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:13:44 -0500 Received: from imo-r01.mx.aol.com (imo-r01.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.97]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAK0DhD25184 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:13:43 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.16a.26afec47 (16930) for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:13:33 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <16a.26afec47.2ced612d@aol.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:13:33 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Worrying about TWD To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/19/2003 6:02:36 PM Central Standard Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << How is your dog-cat life going? >> They had their first fight today. Bennie kept wanting to go out, which helps my bad cold a lot. I'd take him out, we'd wander around, he'd find a nice bush and pee, we'd come back in, and 5 minutes later he'd want to go back out. Mom thinks he might have a bladder problem; I think it's because he likes to go out. Well, one time I refused to take him out because I was feeling weak, so he decided to bother Sweetie. She hissed and pawed at him; he barked at her. One of the reasons we got him was that he was quiet; he's no longer quiet; he has a loud bark, and he barks if he thinks that we're not paying enough attention to him. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 18:34:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK0Ys6q014011 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:34:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 70CB81E601F9; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:28:19 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4261F1E600CC for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:28:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A50314@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:21:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 292064 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:21:02 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAK0L1D26271 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:21:02 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-184-130.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.184.130]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAK0L09u009875 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:21:00 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FBC08A0.1000407@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:19:44 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD References: <16a.26afec47.2ced612d@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It sounds like he needs more exercise. Evelyn Duncan wrote: > In a message dated 11/19/2003 6:02:36 PM Central Standard Time, > natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: > << > How is your dog-cat life going? > > > They had their first fight today. Bennie kept wanting to go out, > which helps my bad cold a lot. I'd take him out, we'd wander > around, he'd find a nice bush and pee, we'd come back in, and > 5 minutes later he'd want to go back out. Mom thinks he might > have a bladder problem; I think it's because he likes to go out. > Well, one time I refused to take him out because I was feeling > weak, so he decided to bother Sweetie. She hissed and pawed > at him; he barked at her. > > One of the reasons we got him was that he was quiet; he's no > longer quiet; he has a loud bark, and he barks if he thinks that > we're not paying enough attention to him. > > Evelyn Duncan > brandykitt@aol.com > A scavenger hunt? How horrible! > I don't believe in hunting scavengers. > -- Bubbles > > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 18:43:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK0hR6q014094 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:43:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 756511E602B4; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:36:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 451961E601F9 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:36:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A50337@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:29:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 292493 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:29:35 -0500 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAK0TZD27217 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:29:35 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.ba.4a1da36a (16930) for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:29:13 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:29:12 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Worrying about TWD To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/19/2003 6:21:21 PM Central Standard Time, rouvalis@SWBELL.NET writes: << It sounds like he needs more exercise. >> We take him out almost every time he asks. If we had a second-floor apartment, we could let him out on the balcony. But we don't, and there are leash laws here, so we can't let him out by himself. So we hook his leash on his collar and wander around the apartment complex. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 18:44:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK0iv6q014111 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:44:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CD4211E602F3; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:38:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DE121E602B4 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:38:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A50346@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:31:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 292550 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:31:04 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAK0V4D27355 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:31:04 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.148.187]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031120003058.CTHG1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:30:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBC0B44.226EF21E@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:31:00 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD References: <16a.26afec47.2ced612d@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > 5 minutes later he'd want to go back out. Mom thinks he might > have a bladder problem; I think it's because he likes to go out. My guess is with yours. > Well, one time I refused to take him out because I was feeling > weak, so he decided to bother Sweetie. She hissed and pawed > at him; he barked at her. Sounds minimal as far as serious fighting. I'm suddenly remembering that funny time when Buddy, my mother's dog, who was mean to Spencer, especially at first, was flying into a major flurry in my mother's kitchen, trying to fight Spencer. Spencer was much larger and more physcially fit and could have quashed Buddy easily. Spencer sat there through Buddy's wild rage with a single leg extended, large paw upon Buddy, holding him back, and sort of rolling his eyes like, "Can you believe this idiot?" Buddy's snipping and sniping at Spencer pretty much ended during that time I had them both here (my previous house) when my mother was in HealthSouth several years ago. Something about coming to Starkville and living with Spencer full-time seemed to change things. Buddy then moved back to Hville but then ended up again in Sville of course. There were no major tantrums after that first visit to Starkville. Dogs are fascinating. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 18:52:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK0q26q014215 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:52:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 709041E600CF; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:45:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40B6A1E601F9 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:45:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001EE674@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:38:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 293011 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:38:10 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAK0c9D28303 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:38:10 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.148.187]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031120003804.CWAZ1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:38:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBC0CEE.47212EE7@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:38:06 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Speaking of USAers in Europe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU YES to this: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/11/19/national/main584538.shtml -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 18:59:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK0xZ6q014282 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:59:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CF1721E601F9; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:52:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C6B61E600CF for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:52:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A50395@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:45:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 293508 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:45:42 -0500 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAK0jgD29421 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:45:42 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.11f.27d45241 (16930) for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:45:32 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <11f.27d45241.2ced68ac@aol.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:45:32 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Worrying about TWD To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/19/2003 6:32:18 PM Central Standard Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << Evelyn Duncan wrote: > 5 minutes later he'd want to go back out. Mom thinks he might > have a bladder problem; I think it's because he likes to go out. My guess is with yours. >> If you were in a cage for a month, you'd want to go out as much as you could. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 19:04:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK14F6q014316 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:04:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 120EC1E602B4; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:57:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE1031E600D4 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:57:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A503BE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:50:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 293649 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:50:22 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAK0oMD30026 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:50:22 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAK0oIQb029293 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:50:20 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000601c3af00$4cffd000$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031119232319.15698.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> <002b01c3aef9$82bcb200$e1cadece@0018079268> <161972654.20031119180540@WordWrite.com> Subject: Re: Re: Most Americans have been... Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:50:31 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Most Americans have been... > On Wednesday, November 19, 2003, Doris Markland wrote: > > Well, Lynne, it's not a piece-meal > > experience. When you do go to > > Europe I hope all of you goes. > > I hope so, too. But it was piece-meal for quite a few Americans who > left limbs there. Or the kid who donated his organs to a bunch of > Italians. > > Karen True. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 19:12:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK1CO6q014396 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:12:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D7EDA1E600D4; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:05:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5C841E600D1 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:05:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001EE6D1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:58:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 293905 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:58:19 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAK0wJD31263 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:58:19 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAK0wEQb026670 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:58:16 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001f01c3af01$68f7bc40$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3FBC0CEE.47212EE7@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Speaking of USAers in Europe Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:58:27 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 6:38 PM Subject: Speaking of USAers in Europe > YES to this: > > http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/11/19/national/main584538.shtml > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I would say yes also, for a couple of reasons. Not only for the understanding of our young people . . . but also for the understanding of people in those countries. >From comments I keep reading I feel that so many people have way weird ideas about us, our life, our motives, etc. Some of our bright young kids can carry quite a different impression. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 20:48:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK2mP6q015390 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:48:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4BA121E60330; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:41:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BE8B1E602F4 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:41:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A50581@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:34:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 297994 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:34:31 -0500 Received: from mail46.messagelabs.com (mail46.messagelabs.com [64.125.76.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAK2YVD15028 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:34:31 -0500 Received: (qmail 9971 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2003 02:34:30 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-13.tower-46.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 20 Nov 2003 02:34:30 -0000 Received: from ularit (client-151-197-197-186.ba-dsg.net [151.197.197.186]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14462D5B for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:34:24 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-13.tower-46.messagelabs.com!1069295670!164793 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.13; banners=.,-,- Message-ID: <003c01c3af0e$d4007ab0$bac5c597@ularit> From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031119232319.15698.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Most Americans have been... Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:34:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne Weber" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 6:23 PM Subject: Re: Most Americans have been... > --- Doris Markland wrote: > > > In a Harris Poll I just finished taking, early > > results show that only > > 23.3% of responders have never been to Europe. > > > > > > (how's that for limited veracity, Pete?) > > > > > > Marie > > > > I would expect that figure to be much lower. > > > > - D. M. > > 100% of me has never been to Europe. > Go it is lots of fun. alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 20:50:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK2on6q015399 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:50:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8C2411E60330; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:44:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 591721E602F4 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:44:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001EE8A2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:36:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 298071 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:36:56 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAK2auD15480 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:36:56 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAK2apv8002742 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:36:55 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:37:54 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <446037421.20031119203754@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Most Americans have been... In-Reply-To: <003c01c3af0e$d4007ab0$bac5c597@ularit> References: <20031119232319.15698.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> <003c01c3af0e$d4007ab0$bac5c597@ularit> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 19, 2003, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: > Go it is lots of fun. You're posting late, Alec! I hope everything is all right. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 20:58:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK2wN6q015513 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:58:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 480101E60330; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:51:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1992A1E600E0 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:51:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A50590@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:43:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 298259 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:43:53 -0500 Received: from mail46.messagelabs.com (mail46.messagelabs.com [64.125.76.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAK2hrD16761 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:43:53 -0500 Received: (qmail 20430 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2003 02:43:52 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-21.tower-46.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 20 Nov 2003 02:43:52 -0000 Received: from ularit (client-151-197-197-186.ba-dsg.net [151.197.197.186]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDE20302 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:43:44 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-21.tower-46.messagelabs.com!1069296232!164878 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.13; banners=.,-,- Message-ID: <00a501c3af10$22ecd5f0$bac5c597@ularit> From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031119232319.15698.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> <003c01c3af0e$d4007ab0$bac5c597@ularit> <446037421.20031119203754@WordWrite.com> Subject: Re: Most Americans have been... Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:43:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Kay" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 9:37 PM Subject: Re: Most Americans have been... > On Wednesday, November 19, 2003, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: > > Go it is lots of fun. > > You're posting late, Alec! I hope everything is all right. > > Karen > All is good, I am posting from home. It is only 9:45 ish here in West Chester. I post from home sometimes. alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 20:58:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK2wU6q015523 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:58:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 983481E600E4; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:51:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 698E91E600E2 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:51:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A50599@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:44:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 298266 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:44:37 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAK2ibD16839 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:44:37 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:44:31 PST Message-ID: <20031120024431.34571.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:44:31 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FBC008B.6839E815@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: He's quieter now. That > also is worrisome. But he's so hard to catch. Do you think he would fall for the trap gambit again? > as in whether it's > good for them or not. (And I agree with you that > it's good for them.) > It would seem so very strange not to have > conversations with Spencer -- > or with random other dogs I meet. And I talked > quite a bit to those > cats I was feeding. My interaction with all types of animals is the cause of some embarrassment to my friends and family. Several years ago, we went on a camping trip to north Alabama (Guntersville State Park), and before we left, my mother-in-law begged me not to approach any bears. I "caved in" and promised I would not. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 21:02:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK3276q015608 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:02:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 840A71E600E4; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:55:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F7611E600E2 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:55:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A505AD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:48:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 298102 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:48:14 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAK2buD15681 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:37:56 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAK2b4BK017060 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:37:04 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:37:55 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD In-Reply-To: <20031119232221.83979.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031119232221.83979.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >There's always the possibility he may have gotten into >some foodish thing that did not agree with him. He I hope he did not get into my throwaways this morning. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 21:03:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK3316q015612 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:03:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A51B71E600E4; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:56:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75E5D1E600E2 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:56:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A505B5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:49:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 298507 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:49:08 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAK2n8D17764 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:49:08 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:49:07 PST Message-ID: <20031120024907.14728.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:49:07 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: new refrigerator To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1c9.12043011.2ced5ac6@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > Even though I no longer work there I'm still > interested > in the company. I've seen it go from a place in > which > people were honored to work for to a place where the > associates are treated like dirt. It's doubly sad when they lose high quality employees. I remember well when Sears was considered one of the most dependable and diversified of companies. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 21:15:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK3FU6q015819 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:15:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B2BA41E600E4; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:08:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7997B1E600E2 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:08:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A505F1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:01:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 299012 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:01:37 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:L27jXXpC41gb8/souCrNqQIAzfXzpboQ@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAK31aD19685 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:01:36 -0500 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B9E3305D0 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:01:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 740C223349 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:01:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031118192627.00a43ab0@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <410-22003113193219273@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Is there consecrated ground for expired kitchen appliances? X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Neal-Stephenson: Paper is a really advanced technology Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:01:27 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Oooh, freaky! Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Oh, yes! I always thought that he should have been buried in his car. > >Betty Ironically, coincidentally, that is exactly what happened. In his own diegetic world, of course. Ken Miller Gilbert G. Smith School of Historiological Studies From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 21:17:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK3Ht6q015866 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:17:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 139E81E60330; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:11:19 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D92F81E600E2 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:11:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A505E5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:04:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 299141 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:04:01 -0500 Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAK341D20116 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:04:01 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.17b.224254ba (18707) for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:03:51 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <17b.224254ba.2ced8917@aol.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:03:51 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] new refrigerator To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/19/2003 8:49:31 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << I remember well when Sears was considered one of the most dependable and diversified of companies. >> The downturn started with Martinez, but it's Lacy who is killing the company. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 21:20:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK3Ks6q015903 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:20:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 40BA21E60330; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:14:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107E31E600E2 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:14:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001EE92A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:07:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 299391 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:07:01 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAK370D20720 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:07:00 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAK36x2f006305 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:06:59 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAK36vJC006284; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:06:58 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031119190837.00a77a20@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:09:08 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Oooh, freaky! In-Reply-To: References: <4.2.2.20031118192627.00a43ab0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <410-22003113193219273@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:01 PM 11/19/2003 -0800, Bookrat wrote: > >Oh, yes! I always thought that he should have been buried in his car. > > > >Betty > >Ironically, coincidentally, that is exactly what happened. In his own >diegetic world, of course. > >Ken Miller >Gilbert G. Smith School of Historiological Studies I've missed you, Ken. How are you doing? Work any better? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 21:25:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK3P16q015970 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:25:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4B5661E60332; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:18:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D5961E60330 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:18:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5061F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:11:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 298998 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:11:08 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAK318D19626 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:01:08 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAK30FBK027713 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:00:16 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:01:06 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: new refrigerator In-Reply-To: <20031120024907.14728.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031120024907.14728.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >I remember well when Sears was considered one of the >most dependable and diversified of companies. There were never many products I liked to buy from Sears - certainly, never clothing (but I may try to use my Sat. coupon) - mostly Craftsman tools. I was very surprised to find the good buy on the refrigerator. I went to Sears intending only to check prices. But the one I bought was under $800, and I am certain that I could not beat that price locally. I would shop there for appliances again. The sales said he had already sold an identical refrigerator Monday morning before I bought mine. I now have a few groceries in it - mostly milk & oj. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 21:30:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK3UL6q016058 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:30:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5062D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:16:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 299672 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:16:04 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAK3G4D22110 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:16:04 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAK3G3W1019155 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:16:03 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAK3G1Wq019130; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:16:01 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031119191736.00a867f0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:18:12 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: new refrigerator In-Reply-To: References: <20031120024907.14728.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> <20031120024907.14728.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:01 PM 11/19/2003 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > > >I remember well when Sears was considered one of the > >most dependable and diversified of companies. > >There were never many products I liked to buy from Sears - certainly, >never clothing (but I may try to use my Sat. coupon) - mostly Craftsman >tools. I was very surprised to find the good buy on the refrigerator. I >went to Sears intending only to check prices. But the one I bought was >under $800, and I am certain that I could not beat that price locally. I >would shop there for appliances again. The sales said he had already sold >an identical refrigerator Monday morning before I bought mine. I now have >a few groceries in it - mostly milk & oj. And after reading the list you still bought the extended warranty? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 21:34:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK3YT6q016143 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:34:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 19B9C1E600E2; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:27:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E00BA1E600DC for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:27:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5063D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:20:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 299752 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:20:35 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAK3KZD22782 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:20:35 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:20:29 PST Message-ID: <20031120032029.19649.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:20:29 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <11e.27bfcd9d.2ced5b92@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > Natalie, I think it's time that a vet took a look at > him. Poor dog; > he needs someone to care for him. in hunting scavengers. > -- Bubbles Natalie, I believe Evelyn has commissioned you as White Dog Protector. And if you worm your way into his confidence, you may even part that mysterious curtain that surrounds the Animal Sheter. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 21:37:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK3bX6q016175 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:37:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D7AC11E600E2; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:30:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A82141E600DC for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:30:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5062E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:23:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 299848 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:23:38 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAK3NcD23217 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:23:38 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:23:32 PST Message-ID: <20031120032332.20434.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:23:32 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Most Americans have been... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <002b01c3aef9$82bcb200$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > Well, Lynne, it's not a piece-meal > experience. When you do go to > Europe I hope all of you goes. I had not thought of it that way. This concept will have to be explained to my husband (and he can't go piece-meal, either). __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 21:45:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK3jL6q016220 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:45:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A93191E600E2; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:38:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76B491E600DC for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:38:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5066A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:31:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 300231 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:31:27 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAK3VRD24725 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:31:27 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:31:21 PST Message-ID: <20031120033121.87175.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:31:21 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <16a.26afec47.2ced612d@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > Well, one time I refused to take him out because I > was feeling > weak, so he decided to bother Sweetie. She hissed > and pawed > at him; he barked at her. > > One of the reasons we got him was that he was quiet; > he's no > longer quiet; he has a loud bark, and he barks if he > thinks that > we're not paying enough attention to him. Bennie must understand that, though Sweetie has royal precedence, she is neither equipped for, nor looks fondly upon dog-walking. And the way you feel, neither are you. You may be forced to relate to him the horrible tale of the Bark-Stealer, and that this story is not about any trees he knows intimately. The Bark-Stealer can leave a dog with NO say in the matter. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 21:47:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK3lO6q016257 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:47:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AA2A81E600E2; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:40:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BDED1E600DC for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:40:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5066F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:33:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 300277 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:33:30 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAK3XTD24950 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:33:30 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.148.187]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031120033321.OVSK11940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:33:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBC3602.E65EBC01@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:33:22 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of USAers in Europe References: <3FBC0CEE.47212EE7@maynor.net> <001f01c3af01$68f7bc40$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > I would say yes also, for a couple of reasons. Not > only for the understanding of our young people . . . > but also for the understanding of people in those countries. > From comments I keep reading I feel that so many > people have way weird ideas about > us, our life, our motives, etc. Some of our bright young > kids can carry quite a different impression. I think many of the current ideas about us, our life, our motives are about Dubya's band of thugs, but I agree with the point that individuals spending time in other countries can be helpful. Not just our young kids, but any decent individual travelers. I have always considered being an for my country an extremely important part of foreign travel, especially in places where they see mainly herds of USAers in busses. Even though some of those in the herd are no doubt good people, they usually have little one-on-one interaction and are seen as a rude herd (because of those people who hop off of busses, expect everybody to speak English wherever they are, etc. etc.). I am a great believer in the importance of individual interactions in helping world diplomacy. Suddenly I'm reminded of a scene at a telephone booth in Vichy, where a Syrian was helping me figure out something about the phone. I can't remember what now. All I remember is that something was going wrong with whatever I was doing -- it was an odd phone -- and that he was helping. I knew him from a class, but our conversational ability was quite limited since his French was almost non-existent -- far worse than my bad French -- and we didn't share any other language. But our experience was a just plain good human experience of two people in another country who were friends at that moment, helping each other (he was helping me, but I might have been helping him in another circumstance). I think things like that are extremely important. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 21:51:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK3pB6q016353 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:51:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7A0A61E600E2; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:44:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 495F41E600DC for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:44:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A50672@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:37:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 300389 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:37:18 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAK3bHD25482 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:37:17 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.148.187]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031120033712.OWTX11940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:37:12 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBC36EA.C6EAC8A8@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:37:14 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD References: <20031120024431.34571.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > But he's so hard to catch. Do you think he would fall > for the trap gambit again? That is a big question. > My interaction with all types of animals is the cause > of some embarrassment to my friends and family. > > Several years ago, we went on a camping trip to north > Alabama (Guntersville State Park), and before we left, > my mother-in-law begged me not to approach any bears. > I "caved in" and promised I would not. But surely you would have at least said hello if one suddenly showed up in front of you. Or more likely you would've said, "Hello. Why are you down here in Guntersville, where bears aren't likely to be hanging out? Why don't you head on up north a few miles and hang out with normal bears in the Smoky Mtn National Park?" -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 21:54:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK3sc6q016407 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:54:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 97BAA1E600E2; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:48:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CCF01E600DC for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:48:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5067A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:40:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 300617 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:40:44 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAK3ehD26099 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:40:44 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.148.187]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031120034038.OXRL11940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:40:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBC37B8.F1675B21@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:40:40 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Oooh, freaky! References: <4.2.2.20031118192627.00a43ab0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <410-22003113193219273@earthlink.net> <4.2.2.20031119190837.00a77a20@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > I've missed you, Ken. How are you doing? Work any better? Boo checks in from time to time. He was here not long ago. Maybe it was when you were gone. I do wish he would be here more , though, not just from time to time. Re work, I still wish he would move here and work at the MSU library. It would be so very neat to have Boo right here in Starkville. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 21:56:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK3uB6q016424 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:56:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F2CBD1E600E2; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:49:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDF511E600DC for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:49:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001EEAD3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:42:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 300658 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:42:06 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAK3g6D26302 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:42:06 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:42:00 PST Message-ID: <20031120034200.28816.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:42:00 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Speaking of USAers in Europe To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <001f01c3af01$68f7bc40$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > I would say yes also, for a couple of reasons. Not > only for the understanding of our young people . . . > but also for the understanding of people in those > countries. > From comments I keep reading I feel that so many > people have way weird ideas about > us, our life, our motives, etc. Some of our bright > young > kids can carry quite a different impression. It would seem that in part of world, the only things US they embrace are our movies, music and fashion trends. I'm sorry that so many of OUR young people form their impressions based in that. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 22:02:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK42b6q016500 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:02:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0971C1E600E2; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:56:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2A7A1E600DC for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:56:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A50690@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:48:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 300831 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:48:43 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAK3mhD27049 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:48:43 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:48:38 PST Message-ID: <20031120034838.30422.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:48:38 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Most Americans have been... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <003c01c3af0e$d4007ab0$bac5c597@ularit> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Alec D. Plotkin" wrote: > > 100% of me has never been to Europe. > > > > Go it is lots of fun. I do, in my imagination. That way I can weed out all the poverty, disease, wars and ignorance. My selective imagination works the same way with this country. I WOULD love to go, and I have no doubt that I will, one day. Thanks for your kind words of encouragement. :-] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 22:13:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK4DR6q016656 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:13:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E906C1E600E2; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:06:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFCB21E600DC for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:06:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A50726@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:59:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 301981 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:59:33 -0500 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAK3xXD29121 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:59:33 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.107.28ec1ba0 (4426) for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:59:22 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <107.28ec1ba0.2ced9619@aol.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:59:21 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Worrying about TWD To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/19/2003 9:32:18 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << Bennie must understand that, though Sweetie has royal precedence, she is neither equipped for, nor looks fondly upon dog-walking. And the way you feel, neither are you. >> I just got a picture of Sweetie and Bennie trotting along with Sweetie holding Bennie's leash in her mouth. I hate being sick; I don't feel like doing any of the things I need to do on my day off. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 22:14:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK4E26q016661 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:14:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E82EC1E600E2; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:07:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF0B81E600DC for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:07:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5071D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:00:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 302063 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:00:07 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAK403D29263 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:00:03 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:59:57 PST Message-ID: <20031120035957.53809.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:59:57 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" > I hope he did not get into my throwaways this > morning. For a while when we didn't here from you, I was afraid YOU had gotten into that freaky stuff in your refrigerator. Glad to hear you survived, and you have a new, fail-safe "ice box". __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 22:17:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK4Hh6q016681 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:17:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8D08D1E600E9; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:11:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 530C01E600E2 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:11:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5080C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:03:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 303765 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:03:49 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAK43mD30856 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:03:48 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAK43j2f027783 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:03:45 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAK43iJC027769; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:03:44 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031119200539.00a866c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:05:54 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD In-Reply-To: <20031120035957.53809.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:59 PM 11/19/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- "Bethany K. Dumas" > I >hope he did not get into my throwaways this > > morning. > > >For a while when we didn't here from you, I was afraid >YOU had gotten into that freaky stuff in your >refrigerator. Glad to hear you survived, and you have >a new, fail-safe "ice box". Hear today, gone tomorrow. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 22:24:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK4O66q016835 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:24:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 08D111E600EC; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:17:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7A131E600E5 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:17:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A50861@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:10:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 304655 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:10:12 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAK4ACD32123 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:10:12 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:10:07 PST Message-ID: <20031120041007.42103.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:10:07 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: new refrigerator To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" > There were never many products I liked to buy from > Sears - certainly, > never clothing (but I may try to use my Sat. coupon) > - mostly Craftsman > tools. I was very surprised to find the good buy on > the refrigerator. I > went to Sears intending only to check prices. But > the one I bought was > under $800, and I am certain that I could not beat > that price locally. I > would shop there for appliances again. The sales > said he had already sold > an identical refrigerator Monday morning before I > bought mine. I now have > a few groceries in it - mostly milk & oj. We had par to of this discussion once before, about Kenmore appliances, when Natalie was considering the purchase of a new vacuum cleaner. I would buy Sears appliances any time. There was a time when farmers and other rural dwellers had only Sears and Montgomery Ward to chose from, if they mail-ordered. And those companies had to stand behind their products. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 22:25:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK4Pe6q016869 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:25:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BC0FC1E60330; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:19:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8762F1E600EC for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:19:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A50875@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:11:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 304679 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:11:46 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAK4BkD32305 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:11:46 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:11:40 PST Message-ID: <20031120041141.22467.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:11:40 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Oooh, freaky! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Bookrat wrote: > Ironically, coincidentally, that is exactly what > happened. In his own > diegetic world, of course. Would it be correct, then, to say "diegetically speaking"? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 22:29:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK4TS6q016932 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:29:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A203F1E60331; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:22:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 684711E60330 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:22:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A50881@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:15:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 304727 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:15:34 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAK4FYD00677 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:15:34 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:15:28 PST Message-ID: <20031120041528.88383.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:15:28 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Speaking of USAers in Europe To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FBC3602.E65EBC01@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Doris Markland wrote: > > > I would say yes also, for a couple of reasons. > Not > > only for the understanding of our young people . . > . > > but also for the understanding of people in those > countries. > > From comments I keep reading I feel that so many > > people have way weird ideas > about > > us, our life, our motives, etc. Some of our > bright young > > kids can carry quite a different impression. > > I think many of the current ideas about us, our > life, our motives are > about Dubya's band of thugs, but I agree with the > point that individuals > spending time in other countries can be helpful. > Not just our young > kids, but any decent individual travelers. I have > always considered > being an for my country an extremely > important part of > foreign travel, especially in places where they see > mainly herds of > USAers in busses. Even though some of those in the > herd are no doubt > good people, they usually have little one-on-one > interaction and are > seen as a rude herd (because of those people who hop > off of busses, > expect everybody to speak English wherever they are, > etc. etc.). I am a > great believer in the importance of individual > interactions in helping > world diplomacy. > > Suddenly I'm reminded of a scene at a telephone > booth in Vichy, where a > Syrian was helping me figure out something about the > phone. I can't > remember what now. All I remember is that something > was going wrong > with whatever I was doing -- it was an odd phone -- > and that he was > helping. I knew him from a class, but our > conversational ability was > quite limited since his French was almost > non-existent -- far worse than > my bad French -- and we didn't share any other > language. But our > experience was a just plain good human experience of > two people in > another country who were friends at that moment, > helping each other (he > was helping me, but I might have been helping him in > another > circumstance). I think things like that are > extremely important. Doris, based on what you now know, do you think there is connection between the Syrian, Natalie, and your echoing phone call? Cause dat's how dey do dat. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 22:44:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK4it6q017118 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:44:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C8C331E60331; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:38:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93EE51E60330 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:38:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A508A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:31:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 305116 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:31:01 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAK4V1D03419 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:31:01 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:30:55 PST Message-ID: <20031120043055.40526.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:30:55 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FBC36EA.C6EAC8A8@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: promised I would not. > > But surely you would have at least said hello if one > suddenly showed up > in front of you. Or more likely you would've said, > "Hello. Why are you > down here in Guntersville, where bears aren't likely > to be hanging out? > Why don't you head on up north a few miles and hang > out with normal > bears in the Smoky Mtn National Park?" What do you think made it so easy to cave in? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 22:47:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK4lC6q017145 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:47:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9FC501E600EC; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:40:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68D191E600E5 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:40:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A508A7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:33:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 305139 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:33:18 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAK4XID03864 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:33:18 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:33:08 PST Message-ID: <20031120043308.48408.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:33:08 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Oooh, freaky! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FBC37B8.F1675B21@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: It would be so > very neat to have Boo > right here in Starkville. Boo Radley would be neat, as well. The Booboos. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 22:50:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK4oP6q017219 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:50:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E45C11E60330; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:43:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE1621E600EC for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:43:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A50976@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:36:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 306771 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:36:31 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAK4aVD04986 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:36:31 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:36:26 PST Message-ID: <20031120043626.38663.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:36:26 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <107.28ec1ba0.2ced9619@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: ; I don't feel like doing any of > the things > I need to do on my day off. There is a bill pending in the Oklahoma State Legislature that would make it legal to be sick only on regularly scheduled work days. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 22:51:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK4pP6q017225 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:51:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 839711E60330; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:44:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E1361E600EC for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:44:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A50969@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:37:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 306818 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:37:31 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAK4bTD05122 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:37:29 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:37:24 PST Message-ID: <20031120043724.41985.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:37:24 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031119200539.00a866c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Betty wrote: > > Hear today, gone tomorrow. Ha! Cawt me! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 22:56:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK4uu6q017304 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:56:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 675141E60334; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:50:19 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30F8F1E60332 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:50:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A50990@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:43:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 307022 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:43:02 -0500 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAK4h1D06457 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:43:01 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1a4.1cc79c54 (4184) for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:42:50 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1a4.1cc79c54.2ceda04a@aol.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:42:50 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Worrying about TWD To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/19/2003 10:37:17 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << There is a bill pending in the Oklahoma State Legislature that would make it legal to be sick only on regularly scheduled work days. >> Trouble is, I never know until Tuesday what days I'm going to be off from Wednesday until the following Tuesday. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 23:01:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK51O6q017443 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:01:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9A4441E60331; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:54:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62E0B1E60330 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:54:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5098A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:47:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 307176 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:47:30 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAK4lUD07306 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:47:30 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001EED94@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:47:29 -0500 Message-Id: <200311200447.hAK4lUD07306@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:47:29 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Two Matters To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:43:58 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >> >> As for the father's name, that's a custom, and they >> may have wanted to >> follow it. > >What is custom? To enter into a fraudulent contract, >either civil or spiritual, is justifiable in order to >give a child a father's name? To continue in a bogus >relationship in order to provide a father's name for >subsequent children is not an empty gesture? It seems >to me that to live a lie is much more deserving of >scorn than to own up to unmarried parenthood. What is >the ultimate effect of this custom on the children? >"Well, my parents really cared about my surname. The >fact that everybody knew I was a bastard didn't matter >in the least to them." Ok, I see that you have a very narrow interpretation of "legitimate", both for relationships and for children. All I can do is repeat, that's not shameful in other eyes than your; neither would fraudulent, bogus, empty, living a lie, deserving of scorn, or bastard enter into the thoughts of those who don't think as you do. To enter into a legal marriage in order to legitimate inheritance for children when the legal system requires it, even though the cultural system does not, is rendering unto Caesar what is Caesar's - that is, the civil contract seals the marriage for civil purposes, rather than the marriage itself. > >You must be speaking of a >Dutch custom, >as I do not think it customary in this country or >several others internationally. Nonsense. Several documented cultural groups in the US have the same custom. Betrothed couples may live together, but civil marriage may not occur until the union has "proved fruitful". It's certainly always been much more common than 50+ yr old parturition! The fact that this actually occurred frequently in the past makes BrP's pass-along "modest proposal" more poignant, don't you think? > >I am also interested in the legal ramifications of >this custom. That is the part the children must care >most about. > In at least some of these venues, marriage of the parents legitmates the children no matter what the sequence. Why is this such a hot item for you, that you need to use so many inflammatory words? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 23:45:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK5jj6q017964 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:45:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CF92B1E600EC; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:39:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 993F51E600E6 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:39:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001EEE87@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 0:31:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 309110 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:31:03 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAK52VD10540 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:02:32 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:02:26 PST Message-ID: <20031120050226.2118.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:02:26 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1a4.1cc79c54.2ceda04a@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > Trouble is, I never know until Tuesday what days I'm > going > to be off from Wednesday until the following > Tuesday. We will introduce an amendment to broaden the parameters - either way, to accommodate your wandering schedule. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 23:45:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK5jq6q017968 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:45:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 449071E600EC; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:39:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E7531E600E6 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:39:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A50AA2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 0:31:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 309497 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:31:23 -0500 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAK55wD11236 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:05:58 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1d8.14d23a56 (3874) for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:05:49 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1d8.14d23a56.2ceda5ad@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:05:49 EST Subject: Re: Back to the sources To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/19/2003 2:11:54 PM, amy.short@MURRAYSTATE.EDU writes: Espen wrote: or "Ad fontes": I have applied to become a part-time student at the Univ.of Oslo where I hope to get a MA in Classical >Greek. So I have started to read Xenophon again and find that I still understand the classical language better than the >modern - at least so far as I know the grammar and the language structur. But my modern Greek vocabulary and knowledge of idioms are growing. >>Gaudeamus igitur .. >Espen > > >Very good! > > >And I have recently applied to get a second MA in English -- I only have to take a few more courses on top of what I already have. I can probably finish >everything except for the comps before I move to Arizona. > >AS >Congratulations to the both of you. Theo > >----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- >Return-Path: >Received: from rly-xa06.mx.aol.com (rly-xa06.mail.aol.com [172.20.105.69]) >by air-xa04.mail.aol.com (v97.10) with ESMTP id MAILINXA44-6bc3fbbce72193; >Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:11:54 -0500 >Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by >rly-xa06.mx.aol.com (v97.10) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXA66-6bc3fbbce72193; >Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:11:33 -0500 >Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu >(LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001EDE0E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; >Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:10:18 -0500 >Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release > 1.8d) with spool id 270632 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, >19 Nov > 2003 15:10:19 -0500 >Received: from mail1.murraystate.edu (mail.mursuky.edu [216.249.159.14]) >by > listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAJKAHD28655 >for > ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:10:17 -0500 >Received: from trioets89712 (216.249.149.232) by mail1.murraystate.edu > (7.0.008) id 3F5503F1004A471A for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, >19 > Nov 2003 14:08:53 -0600 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 >Message-ID: <00c201c3aed8$b0fac7e0$e895f9d8@msunet2k.edu> >Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:06:59 -0600 >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >Sender: English Language Discussion Group >From: Amy Burns Short >Subject: Re: Back to the sources >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >X-AOL-IP: 128.192.1.101 >X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:XXX:XX >X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 23:46:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK5kZ6q017980 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:46:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 296EA1E60332; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:39:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8C891E600EC for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:39:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001EEE90@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 0:32:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 309913 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:31:40 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAK5DPD12457 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:13:25 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:13:20 PST Message-ID: <20031120051320.49643.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:13:20 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Two Matters To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200311200447.hAK4lUD07306@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > The fact that this actually occurred frequently in > the past > makes BrP's pass-along "modest proposal" more > poignant, don't > you think? I've never had any argument with any of BrP's proposals. I thought I had made that clear. Some are poignant and sensible, others are just plain sensible. > Why is this such a hot item for you, that you need > to use > so many inflammatory words? I've just taken a cold shower. I wouldn't want to promote the use of inflammatory words on this list. I'll discuss with you tomorrow. I am going to bed with Odysseus, to remedy my limited literary experience. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 23:52:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK5qp6q018024 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:52:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4BBE51E600EC; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:46:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1276F1E600E6 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:46:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A50B40@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 0:38:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 310792 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:38:56 -0500 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAK5cuD16038 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:38:56 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.ca.24cdd826 (3874) for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:38:46 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:38:46 EST Subject: Re: Most Americans have been... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/19/2003 5:24:03 PM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: >100% of me has never been to Europe. ------------ Doesn't matter. I don't think you'd be very welcome today, anyway. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 19 23:58:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK5wL6q018133 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:58:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 65C821E60332; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:51:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 308CE1E600EC for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:51:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A50B74@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 0:44:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 310966 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:44:27 -0500 Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAK5iQD16764 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:44:26 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.54.1cd1907d (3874) for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:44:17 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <54.1cd1907d.2cedaeb1@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:44:17 EST Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/19/2003 5:46:29 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >It would seem so very strange not to have conversations with Spencer -- >or with random other dogs I meet. And I talked quite a bit to those >cats I was feeding. > ----------- I wasn't talking about conversing with animals. Only about YOU writing about it so much. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 00:05:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK65E6q018223 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:05:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 34E8A1E60332; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:58:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 003B81E600EC for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:58:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A50B93@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 0:51:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 311234 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:51:19 -0500 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.99]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAK5pHD17707 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:51:17 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.a4.3fa022aa (3874) for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:51:04 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:51:04 EST Subject: Re: Two Matters To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/19/2003 5:48:31 PM, Karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: >You must be speaking of a >> Dutch custom, >> as I do not think it customary in this country or >> several others internationally. --------- Will you kindly leave me out of this? "worldly", eh? LOL Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 00:57:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK6v66q018801 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:57:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D698C1E60334; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:50:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8BC11E60333 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:50:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001EEFAA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 1:43:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 312803 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 01:43:11 -0500 Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAK6hBD24639 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 01:43:11 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.a7.38cbd6fe (4402) for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 01:43:00 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 01:42:59 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Worrying about TWD To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/19/2003 11:32:38 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << We will introduce an amendment to broaden the parameters - either way, to accommodate your wandering schedule >> That's the trouble with working retail: you never know what days you're working until you actually get the schedule. Unless you're Annegret; then you can change the schedule after the manager makes it out. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 01:07:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAK7736q018917 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 01:07:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AA6641E60333; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 01:00:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 749381E600EC for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 01:00:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A50CDE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 1:53:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 312986 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 01:53:08 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:NPZqTqcdKPaZUhFfFL1Bt4tyozTFa16p@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAK6r7D25783 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 01:53:08 -0500 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB309305AE for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:53:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75E3A2334A for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:53:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031119190837.00a77a20@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <4.2.2.20031118192627.00a43ab0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <410-22003113193219273@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Is there consecrated ground for expired kitchen appliances? X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Neal-Stephenson: Paper is a really advanced technology Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:53:01 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Oooh, freaky! Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I've missed you, Ken. How are you doing? Work any better? > >Betty No, work sucks as much as it ever has. But in the last couple of months my work ethic has taken a nosedive, and as much as possible I've stopped caring about anything work-related, which has overall had a beneficial effect on my general mood. (If you are familiar with the Dilbert mythos, I am close to achieving Wallydom.) Plus, there's a distinct possibility that this whole merge thing could fall apart as a consequence of fundamental labor-relations issues that some of us brought up when this whole idea was floated several years ago, and which management on both sides has been trying to pretend weren't really issues. (Schadenfreude is such a guilty pleasure.) Did I mention that, as a consequence of a recent promotion, I am now once again a probationary employee in my job class, and hence eminently layoff-able should layoffs in my classification occur on campus? Not that I am in any danger of becoming unemployed, but I'd have to bump some poor Library Assistant, and that would suck too. (I'd feel like a Donner Party survivor.) I trust that you are still finding the student-radiating business to be compatible with maintaining a sense of human dignity. Although, to my surprise, I find that not a few of those of my colleagues who are close enough to retirement to almost taste it are, if anything, even more despairing about the current situation than those who know they will have to grin and bear it for another decade or two.... Ken Miller Bunthorne School of Ergasiophobic Studies From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 05:37:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKBbA6q021477 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 05:37:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A16C21E6010C; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 05:30:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E9391E60106 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 05:30:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A50F8F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 6:23:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 319180 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:23:12 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAKBNCD14033 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:23:12 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 03:23:07 PST Message-ID: <20031120112307.48133.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 03:23:07 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Most Americans have been... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Theo Groothof wrote: > In a message dated 11/19/2003 5:24:03 PM, > lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: > > >100% of me has never been to Europe. > > ------------ > Doesn't matter. I don't think you'd be very welcome > today, anyway. > Theo Well, that's one factor I have taken into consideration. Thanks for the advice. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 05:39:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKBdI6q021502 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 05:39:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B30BA1E60106; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 05:32:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 854F71E60104 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 05:32:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A50F7B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 6:25:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 319253 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:25:21 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAKBPKD14186 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:25:20 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 03:25:15 PST Message-ID: <20031120112515.48943.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 03:25:15 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Two Matters To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Theo Groothof wrote: > Will you kindly leave me out of this? "worldly", eh? > LOL Dear Theo, I do consider you other-worldly. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 05:41:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKBf96q021531 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 05:41:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6820B1E60106; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 05:34:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 345101E60104 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 05:34:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A50F9C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 6:27:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 319311 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:27:12 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAKBRCD14303 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:27:12 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 03:27:07 PST Message-ID: <20031120112707.1550.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 03:27:07 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > That's the trouble with working retail: you never > know what days > you're working until you actually get the schedule. > Unless you're > Annegret; then you can change the schedule after the > manager > makes it out. I don't know whether to write Annegret out of the bill, or send her on a junket. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 05:46:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKBk06q021576 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 05:46:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E4B051E6010C; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 05:39:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B29EB1E60106 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 05:39:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A50FA0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 6:32:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 319361 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:32:03 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAKBW3D14508 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:32:03 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 03:31:57 PST Message-ID: <20031120113158.70606.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 03:31:57 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Oooh, freaky! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Bookrat wrote: > >I've missed you, Ken. How are you doing? Work any > better? > > > >Betty > > No, work sucks as much as it ever has. But in the > last couple of months my > work ethic has taken a nosedive, and as much as > possible I've stopped > caring about anything work-related, which has > overall had a beneficial > effect on my general mood. (If you are familiar > with the Dilbert mythos, I > am close to achieving Wallydom.) There can be huge compensations in Wallydom. > > Plus, there's a distinct possibility that this whole > merge thing could fall > apart as a consequence of fundamental > labor-relations issues that some of > us brought up when this whole idea was floated > several years ago, and which > management on both sides has been trying to pretend > weren't really issues. > (Schadenfreude is such a guilty pleasure.) > > Did I mention that, as a consequence of a recent > promotion, I am now once > again a probationary employee in my job class, and > hence eminently > layoff-able should layoffs in my classification > occur on campus? Not that > I am in any danger of becoming unemployed, but I'd > have to bump some poor > Library Assistant, and that would suck too. (I'd > feel like a Donner Party > survivor.) > > I trust that you are still finding the > student-radiating business to be > compatible with maintaining a sense of human > dignity. Although, to my > surprise, I find that not a few of those of my > colleagues who are close > enough to retirement to almost taste it are, if > anything, even more > despairing about the current situation than those > who know they will have > to grin and bear it for another decade or two.... > > Ken Miller > Bunthorne School of Ergasiophobic Studies __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 05:47:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKBlU6q021600 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 05:47:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E397E1E6010C; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 05:40:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5DE01E60106 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 05:40:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A50F86@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 6:33:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 319380 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:33:33 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKBXXD14573 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:33:33 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.158.112]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031120113327.GGUK3345.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:33:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBCA3B3.793F6CC3@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 05:21:23 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD References: <20031120032029.19649.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Natalie, I believe Evelyn has commissioned you as > White Dog Protector. And if you worm your way into > his confidence, you may even part that mysterious > curtain that surrounds the Animal Sheter. I will see what kind of progress I can make with him today. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 05:47:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKBlc6q021603 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 05:47:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8B5E01E6010C; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 05:40:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E8921E60106 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 05:40:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A50F99@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 6:33:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 319384 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:33:42 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKBXfD14578 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:33:41 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.158.112]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031120113335.GGVE3345.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:33:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBCA487.A5B83D69@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 05:24:55 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of USAers in Europe References: <20031120041528.88383.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Doris, based on what you now know, do you think there > is connection between the Syrian, Natalie, and your > echoing phone call? Cause dat's how dey do dat. His name was Elias, if that helps. I knew two Eliases that summer, one from Syria, one from Mexico. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 05:47:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKBll6q021607 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 05:47:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 214251E60111; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 05:41:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5C101E6010C for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 05:41:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A50F87@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 6:33:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 319391 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:33:50 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKBXoD14588 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:33:50 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.158.112]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031120113344.GGWE3345.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:33:44 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBCA4AD.42F25CA5@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 05:25:33 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD References: <20031120043055.40526.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > Why don't you head on up north a few miles and hang > > out with normal > > bears in the Smoky Mtn National Park?" > > What do you think made it so easy to cave in? Yes, I assumed that. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 06:29:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKCT46q021999 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:29:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 89A6D1E60114; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:22:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C1731E6010E for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:22:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A51018@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 7:15:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 320410 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 07:15:06 -0500 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKCF6D03470 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 07:15:06 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.78.4af01800 (3980) for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 07:14:57 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <78.4af01800.2cee0a41@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 07:14:57 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Worrying about TWD To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/20/2003 5:27:38 AM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << I don't know whether to write Annegret out of the bill, or send her on a junket. >> A junket would be fine; then the other salespeople in electronics (they merged vacuums with electronics) would have a chance to get a sale. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 06:40:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKCeO6q022072 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:40:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5016D1E60117; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:33:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1640E1E6010E for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:33:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001EF2ED@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 7:26:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 320702 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 07:26:24 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAKCQOD04758 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 07:26:24 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 04:26:19 PST Message-ID: <20031120122619.45163.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 04:26:19 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <78.4af01800.2cee0a41@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > A junket would be fine; then the other salespeople > in electronics > (they merged vacuums with electronics) would have a > chance to > get a sale. How about a junket to Pearl Island, where she may be offered a role as an understudy for the Boy Scout woman? (The BSW may have been junked already.) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 06:58:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKCww6q022340 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:58:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B59B01E60117; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:52:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 879961E60116 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:52:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A51079@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 7:45:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 320955 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 07:45:01 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKCZ1D05351 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 07:35:01 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAKCY6BK002585 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 07:34:09 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 07:34:57 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: new refrigerator In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031119191736.00a867f0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: References: <20031120024907.14728.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> <20031120024907.14728.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20031119191736.00a867f0@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Betty wrote: >And after reading the list you still bought the extended warranty? I did not buy the service agreement for the extended warranty - they are almost never a good idea - I bought it so that for the next three years, Sears will come once a year to clean, change the filter, etc. I know that I will not do that - but I will pick up the phone and arrange for it to be done. The regular service will be a selling point later. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 08:57:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKEve6q023867 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:57:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4DB2B1E60126; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:51:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DAE61E6011D for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:51:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001EF63C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 9:43:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 329370 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:43:42 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKEhfD24369 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:43:41 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAKEhMl6011348 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:43:23 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:44:46 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1893408567.20031120084446@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: new refrigerator In-Reply-To: References: <20031120024907.14728.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> <20031120024907.14728.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20031119191736.00a867f0@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 20, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > I did not buy the service agreement for the extended warranty - they are > almost never a good idea - I bought it so that for the next three years, > Sears will come once a year to clean, change the filter, etc. I know that > I will not do that - but I will pick up the phone and arrange for it to be > done. The regular service will be a selling point later. I have a Maytag fridge--top rated by Consumer Reports when I bought it. It's on wheels, so it pulls out. Cleaning the back requires some maneuvering around the fish tank, but it's no big deal. Changing the filter requires $23, a quick trip to Lowe's (10 minutes in and out, and most of that is walking to the back of the store and back out) and less than a minute of my time. I'm not sure what 'regular service' a fridge requires. I haven't had anything done to mine in 2.5 years. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 09:00:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKF0x6q023919 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:00:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2CA8F1E6012A; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:54:19 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F08791E6011D for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:54:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A513C0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 9:47:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 329638 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:47:01 -0500 Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKEl1D24866 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:47:01 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HON00B0ANQBPC@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:47:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.76] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:42:59 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:42:59 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Most Americans have been... To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <3ef4f3dddf.3dddf3ef4f@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I would expect that figure to be much lower. > > These are people who are taking an online Harris Poll--a pretty select > group, I think. It was something Alyce and I had in common. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 09:06:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKF6W6q023972 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:06:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EFF501E60126; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:59:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1D471E6011D for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:59:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001EF694@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 9:52:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 330110 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:52:27 -0500 Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.74]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKEqQD25784 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:52:27 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HON00E8ZNTJAJ@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:48:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.76] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:44:55 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:44:55 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I've been meaning to mention to Marie what she > probably already knows - that talking to animals is as > important to them and in their development, as talking > to children and (even Wordslers). I believe they > (dogs) not only need the social interplay, they need > to learn some of the words. IMO, that is. I talk to Laszlo all the time. Bruce says, "You know, he doesn't know English" and in my opinion only wants to teach him the word NO. Nah, Laz 'n me, we chat all the time. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 09:15:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKFFv6q024090 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:15:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 28DFC1E6012D; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:09:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EED5D1E6012B for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:09:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001EF6D3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:01:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 330704 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:01:59 -0500 Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKF1xD27192 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:01:59 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HON00LAZOF71S@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:01:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.76] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:57:55 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:57:55 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <7b4844d8.44d87b48@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > One of the reasons we got him was that he was quiet; he's no > longer quiet; he has a loud bark, and he barks if he thinks that > we're not paying enough attention to him. Are you paying enough attention to him? Dogs need a lot of attention. How old is he again? I am happy that at this point Laszlo has barked only about eight times total (eight individual barks, happy barks). But he does insist on a lot of attention. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 09:17:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKFHg6q024120 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:17:42 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 832FE1E6012D; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:11:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53EB01E6012B for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:11:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5144F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:03:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 330865 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:03:43 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKF3hD27490 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:03:43 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAKF3Q5Z022501 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:03:41 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:04:32 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <332962965.20031120090432@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Most Americans have been... In-Reply-To: <3ef4f3dddf.3dddf3ef4f@optonline.net> References: <3ef4f3dddf.3dddf3ef4f@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 20, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: >> > I would expect that figure to be much lower. >> >> These are people who are taking an online Harris Poll--a pretty select >> group, I think. > It was something Alyce and I had in common. And me. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 09:42:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKFgv6q024415 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:42:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 52B581E6012D; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:36:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1082B1E6012A for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:36:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A51533@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:28:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 333113 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:28:58 -0500 Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKFSwD32448 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:28:58 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HON00LGPPMT6B@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:28:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.76] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:24:05 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:24:05 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Most Americans have been... To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <6e88b37e.b37e6e88@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > On Thursday, November 20, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: > >> > I would expect that figure to be much lower. > >> > >> These are people who are taking an online Harris Poll--a pretty > select>> group, I think. > > > It was something Alyce and I had in common. > > And me. > > Karen Yes. We had you in common too. By the way, some of the Alyce plants bloomed this fall, an unexpected pretty purple flower. I don't know what it was, but I'll figure it out. I'm hoping for the bulbs this Spring, but I'm afraid the deer have already taken a liking to them. My Alyce Fern (a Boston fern) though, is lush and happy. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 10:16:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKGG96q024777 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:16:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F17471E60134; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:09:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B674F1E60131 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:09:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A516A5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:02:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 336563 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:02:09 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKG29D07348 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:02:09 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-217.gwi.net [216.195.152.217]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAKG25At095231; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:02:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031120105335.00b19578@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:02:05 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Cubicular despair, existential angst, and Wallydom In-Reply-To: References: <4.2.2.20031119190837.00a77a20@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031118192627.00a43ab0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <410-22003113193219273@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:53 PM 11/19/2003 -0800, Bookrat wrote: >... Although, to my surprise, not a few of those of my colleagues who are >close >enough to retirement to almost taste it are, if anything, even more >despairing about the current situation than those who know they will have >to grin and bear it for another decade or two.... I noticed this as well. I think that for some people, once the end is in sight, some defense mechanisms are lost, as well as some "respect for authority." There is no longer the need to rationalize, or hope, away the bad stuff. It also may be that they are no more despairing than formerly---just more open about expressing it. As for me, I smiled a lot, but then there really wasn't that much for me to despair of---although had I stayed another year or so.... cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 10:17:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKGHK6q024791 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:17:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 022311E6012F; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:10:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8AC41E6012E for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:10:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A516F4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:03:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 337295 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:03:21 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAKG3LD07908 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:03:21 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:03:15 PST Message-ID: <20031120160315.21178.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:03:15 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Most Americans have been... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <332962965.20031120090432@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > On Thursday, November 20, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: > >> > I would expect that figure to be much lower. > >> > >> These are people who are taking an online Harris > Poll--a pretty select > >> group, I think. > > > It was something Alyce and I had in common. > > And me. > > Karen And me and Chris __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 10:25:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKGPF6q024933 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:25:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 09D951E60131; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:18:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFF761E6012F for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:18:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A51731@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:11:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 337860 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:11:16 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKGBFD09052 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:11:16 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-217.gwi.net [216.195.152.217]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAKGBDAt096832; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:11:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031120111025.00b5ce38@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:11:05 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Most Americans have been... In-Reply-To: <20031120160315.21178.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> References: <332962965.20031120090432@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:03 AM 11/20/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: Is there anyone on the list who involved in Harris polls? cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 10:27:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKGRs6q024965 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:27:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 68A8C1E60134; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:21:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37C281E60131 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:21:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A51757@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:13:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 338118 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:13:55 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAKGDtD09561 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:13:55 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:13:55 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:13:32 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Most Americans have been... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hAKGRs6q024965 I am not involved in Harris polls BrP >>> cwv@GWI.NET 11/20/03 11:11AM >>> At 08:03 AM 11/20/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: Is there anyone on the list who involved in Harris polls? cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 10:33:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKGX16q024987 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:33:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A89A81E60131; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:26:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A1341E6012F for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:26:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5177E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:19:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 338594 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:19:02 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKGJ2D10630 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:19:02 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001EF9B1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:19:02 -0500 Message-Id: <200311201619.hAKGJ2D10630@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:19:02 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Most Americans have been... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:24:05 -0500, Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote: >> On Thursday, November 20, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: >> >> > I would expect that figure to be much lower. >> >> >> >> These are people who are taking an online Harris Poll--a pretty >> select>> group, I think. >> >> > It was something Alyce and I had in common. >> >> And me. >> >> Karen > >Yes. We had you in common too. And we had you in common.:) I thought Doris M. did the Harris Polls, too. >By the way, some of the Alyce plants bloomed this fall, an unexpected pretty purple flower. I don't know what it was, but I'll figure it out. I'm hoping for the bulbs this Spring, but I'm afraid the deer have already taken a liking to them. My Alyce Fern (a Boston fern) though, is lush and happy. YaY! Maybe you can surround the bulbs with deer-resistant plants? Karen, happy to only have to worry about armadillos, coyotes, and possums From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 10:36:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKGaU6q025039 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:36:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D34A81E60134; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:29:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C7011E60131 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:29:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A517A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:22:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 338955 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:22:31 -0500 Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKGMUD11259 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:22:30 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HON00B1DS52ND@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:22:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.76] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:18:13 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:18:13 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Most Americans have been... To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <119f1e9c4.e9c4119f1@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Maybe you can surround the bulbs with deer-resistant plants? Well, our deer eat things they aren't even supposed to eat. But they don't eat daffodils so that's worth a try -- and allium also. > > Karen, > happy to only have to worry about armadillos, coyotes, and possums We have coyotes and fox, possum and raccoons, but I have never seen an armadillo. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 10:37:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKGbO6q025051 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:37:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EFE241E60134; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:30:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B60951E60131 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:30:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001EF9B0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:23:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 339093 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:23:22 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAKGNJD11555 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:23:19 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:23:12 PST Message-ID: <20031120162312.28810.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:23:12 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Most Americans have been... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031120111025.00b5ce38@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > At 08:03 AM 11/20/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > > Is there anyone on the list who involved in > Harris polls? I am very much involved. Hey, you get points! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 10:40:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKGe96q025073 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:40:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3FFEA1E60134; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:33:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 543461E60131 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:33:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A517CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:26:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 339288 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:26:09 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAKGQ9D11921 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:26:09 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:26:03 PST Message-ID: <20031120162603.63881.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:26:03 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Most Americans have been... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <119f1e9c4.e9c4119f1@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote: > We have coyotes and fox, possum and raccoons, but I > have never seen an armadillo. I have seen one, deceased, gazing toward the heavens with an empty Bud can in his front paws. Pre-marinated road kill. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 10:40:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKGex6q025092 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:40:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CF4BA1E60134; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:34:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95AFD1E60131 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:34:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A517C5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:26:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 339405 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:27:00 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKGQxD12142 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:26:59 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001EF9FD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:26:59 -0500 Message-Id: <200311201626.hAKGQxD12142@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:26:59 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Finally, I like Stephen King To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From the Toronto Star: "King said he has no patience "for those who make a point of pride in saying they have never read anything by John Grisham, Tom Clancy, Mary Higgins Clark or any other popular writer." "What do you think?" King asked. "You get social academic brownie points for deliberately staying out of touch with your own culture?"" YaY, Stephen!!! Way to go, man! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 10:43:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKGhL6q025154 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:43:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 17FC61E60134; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:36:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C91631E60131 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:36:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A517F7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:29:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 338695 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:29:22 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKGJLD10709 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:19:21 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAKGITBK012698 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:18:29 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:19:21 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Most Americans have been... In-Reply-To: <332962965.20031120090432@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <3ef4f3dddf.3dddf3ef4f@optonline.net> <332962965.20031120090432@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >>> > I would expect that figure to be much lower. >>> >>> These are people who are taking an online Harris Poll--a pretty select >>> group, I think. > >> It was something Alyce and I had in common. > >And me. It? What's the antecedent? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 10:46:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKGkP6q025192 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:46:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F1A221E60137; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:39:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C27F01E60134 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:39:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A51806@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:32:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 339879 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:32:26 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAKGWPD13337 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:32:26 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:31:53 PST Message-ID: <20031120163153.2399.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:31:53 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Finally, I like Stephen King To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200311201626.hAKGQxD12142@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > From the Toronto Star: > "King said he has no patience "for those who make a > point of pride in > saying they have never read anything by John > Grisham, Tom Clancy, Mary > Higgins Clark or any other popular writer." > > "What do you think?" King asked. "You get social > academic brownie points > for deliberately staying out of touch with your own > culture?"" > > YaY, Stephen!!! Way to go, man! About time someone with his celebrity said it, too. > > Karen __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 10:46:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKGkj6q025197 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:46:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 058E31E60134; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:40:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C68181E60131 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:40:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001EFA29@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:32:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 339937 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:32:44 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAKGWiD13412 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:32:44 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:32:44 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:32:14 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Finally, I like Stephen King Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hAKGkj6q025197 I wonder what he thinks about Survivor BrP >>> karen@WORDWRITE.COM 11/20/03 11:26AM >>> >From the Toronto Star: "King said he has no patience "for those who make a point of pride in saying they have never read anything by John Grisham, Tom Clancy, Mary Higgins Clark or any other popular writer." "What do you think?" King asked. "You get social academic brownie points for deliberately staying out of touch with your own culture?"" YaY, Stephen!!! Way to go, man! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 10:49:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKGnE6q025210 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:49:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 649CA1E60134; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:42:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E3091E60131 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:42:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001EFA51@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:35:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 340296 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:35:15 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKGZFD14052 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:35:15 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAKGYwQb001162 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:35:00 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001701c3af84$40403740$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031120162312.28810.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: Most Americans have been... Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:34:56 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > --- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > > At 08:03 AM 11/20/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > > > > Is there anyone on the list who involved in > > Harris polls? > > I am very much involved. Hey, you get points! > > I used to do them but haven't recently. What are the points good for? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 10:59:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKGxH6q025313 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:59:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6070E1E60137; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:52:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EA661E60135 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:52:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A518AF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:45:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 341307 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:45:18 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKGjID16276 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:45:18 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-217.gwi.net [216.195.152.217]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAKGjFAt004518; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:45:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031120114352.00b30db0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:45:13 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Finally, I like Stephen King In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:32 AM 11/20/2003 -0500, Paul Barfoot wrote: >I wonder what he thinks about Survivor He probably thinks that it might be a great setting for a novel... cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 11:02:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKH2t6q025385 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:02:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0A2951E60135; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:56:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D03A61E60134 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:56:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A518DA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:48:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 341728 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:48:56 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKGmuD17225 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:48:56 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001EFAA4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:48:55 -0500 Message-Id: <200311201648.hAKGmuD17225@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:48:55 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Finally, I like Stephen King To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:32:14 -0500, Paul Barfoot wrote: >I wonder what he thinks about Survivor I bet no one calls Stephen King Mutant City! K From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 11:09:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKH9H6q025469 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:09:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 046F81E60135; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:02:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3E641E60134 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:02:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001EFB06@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:55:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 342227 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:55:18 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKGtGD18533 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:55:16 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:55:11 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B777DD@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Most Americans have been... Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:55:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: clyde w. voigtlander [mailto:cwv@GWI.NET] > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 11:11 AM > At 08:03 AM 11/20/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > > Is there anyone on the list who involved in Harris polls? I am not. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 11:17:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKHHO6q025593 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:17:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 041361E60139; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:10:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAABA1E60135 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:10:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001EFB45@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:03:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 342888 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:03:25 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKH3PD19971 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:03:25 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001EFB40@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:03:24 -0500 Message-Id: <200311201703.hAKH3PD19971@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:03:24 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: The Merits of Gay Marriage To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Another perspective: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A63767-2003Nov19.html You may have to register. K From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 11:24:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKHOX6q025637 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:24:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6814B1E6013D; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:17:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280231E6013B for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:17:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5198B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:10:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 343476 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:10:34 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKHAYD21231 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:10:34 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001EFB7E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:10:33 -0500 Message-Id: <200311201710.hAKHAYD21231@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:10:34 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Two Matters To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:51:04 EST, Theo Groothof wrote: >In a message dated 11/19/2003 5:48:31 PM, Karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: > >>You must be speaking of a >>> Dutch custom, >>> as I do not think it customary in this country or >>> several others internationally. >--------- >Will you kindly leave me out of this? "worldly", eh? LOL >Theo Theo, that is Lynn, not Karen!!!! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 11:29:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKHTS6q025670 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:29:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2E5BE1E6013B; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:22:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF86F1E60138 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:22:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A51994@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:15:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 343727 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:15:29 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKHFTD21975 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:15:29 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001EFB9E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:15:28 -0500 Message-Id: <200311201715.hAKHFTD21975@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:15:29 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Most Americans have been... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:34:56 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: >> --- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: >> > At 08:03 AM 11/20/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >> > >> > Is there anyone on the list who involved in >> > Harris polls? >> >> I am very much involved. Hey, you get points! >> >> >I used to do them but haven't recently. >What are the points good for? > > - D. M. Among other things, you can donate money to charity. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 11:37:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKHba6q025722 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:37:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D6DE31E60144; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:30:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9730F1E6013B for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:30:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A519BE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:23:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 344196 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:23:30 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAKHNTD23488 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:23:29 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:23:24 PST Message-ID: <20031120172324.85592.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:23:24 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Most Americans have been... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <001701c3af84$40403740$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > > --- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > > > At 08:03 AM 11/20/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > > > > > > Is there anyone on the list who involved > in > > > Harris polls? > > > > I am very much involved. Hey, you get points! > > > > > I used to do them but haven't recently. > What are the points good for? > > - D. M. I haven't looked, lately. I am so insane that I enjoy filling out forms. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 11:38:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKHcX6q025728 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:38:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A39DC1E602F7; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:31:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 662C91E6028E for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:31:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A519E5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:24:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 344302 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:24:33 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKHOXD23715 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:24:33 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAKHOUQb020679 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:24:31 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000401c3af8b$2bd80c40$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200311201715.hAKHFTD21975@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Most Americans have been... Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:24:36 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:34:56 -0600, Doris Markland > wrote: > > >> --- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > >> > At 08:03 AM 11/20/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > >> > > >> > Is there anyone on the list who involved in > >> > Harris polls? > >> > >> I am very much involved. Hey, you get points! > >> > >> > >I used to do them but haven't recently. > >What are the points good for? > > > > - D. M. > > Among other things, you can donate money to charity. > clo Umm, am I missing something? You can donate money to charity without taking polls. Oh, you mean you can earn money by participating but instead of keeping the money you must donate it? Or what? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 11:39:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKHdb6q025750 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:39:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EFF6C1E6028E; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:32:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B53D1E60144 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:32:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001EFC05@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:25:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 344372 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:25:37 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKHPbD23895 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:25:37 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A519EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:25:37 -0500 Message-Id: <200311201725.hAKHPbD23895@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:25:37 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Att BrP - was Re: Two Matters To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Top Posting w/ apologies to list, because it's how BrP reads: Paul, This strikes me as being a remake of what happened to me at the 1974 CNY Annual Conference, in re the proposal for amnesty for all involved in the Attica uprising. Lynn - my response is below. On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:13:20 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> The fact that this actually occurred frequently in >> the past >> makes BrP's pass-along "modest proposal" more >> poignant, don't >> you think? > > I've never had any argument with any of BrP's >proposals. I thought I had made that clear. Some are >poignant and sensible, others are just plain sensible. > > >> Why is this such a hot item for you, that you need >> to use >> so many inflammatory words? > >I've just taken a cold shower. I wouldn't want to >promote the use of inflammatory words on this list. > >I'll discuss with you tomorrow. I am going to bed >with Odysseus, to remedy my limited literary >experience. Lynn: I'd recommend that you rather turn to Jonathan Swift for enlightenment. The subject header should have been a clue. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 11:40:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKHeq6q025785 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:40:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 632FD1E6013D; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:34:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10E4D1E60136 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:34:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A519E8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:26:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 344423 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:26:52 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAKHQqD24014 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:26:52 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:26:46 PST Message-ID: <20031120172646.86788.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:26:46 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Two Matters To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200311201710.hAKHAYD21231@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >Will you kindly leave me out of this? "worldly", > eh? LOL > >Theo > > Theo, that is Lynn, not Karen!!!! As I said, Theo is other-worldly. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 11:43:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKHhV6q025815 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:43:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E62D21E60144; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:36:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A54721E60136 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:36:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001EFC18@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:29:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 344534 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:29:31 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKHTVD24376 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:29:31 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A519FC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:29:31 -0500 Message-Id: <200311201729.hAKHTVD24376@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:29:31 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Most Americans have been... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:24:36 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: >> On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:34:56 -0600, Doris Markland > >> wrote: >> >> >> --- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: >> >> > At 08:03 AM 11/20/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Is there anyone on the list who involved in >> >> > Harris polls? >> >> >> >> I am very much involved. Hey, you get points! >> >> >> >> >> >I used to do them but haven't recently. >> >What are the points good for? >> > >> > - D. M. >> >> Among other things, you can donate money to charity. >> clo > >Umm, am I missing something? You can >donate money to charity without taking >polls. Oh, you mean you can earn money >by participating but instead of keeping the >money you must donate it? Or what? > > - D. M. Remember Green Stamps? You collect points to earn free items, eg Music CDs, clocks, etc. But one option is to send the $$ equivalent of the item value (roughly) to a charity. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 11:44:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKHi86q025822 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:44:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C1AD41E60144; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:37:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E11D21E60136 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:37:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001EFC1D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:30:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 344580 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:30:07 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAKHU6D24510 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:30:07 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:29:55 PST Message-ID: <20031120172955.53039.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:29:55 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Att BrP - was Re: Two Matters To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200311201725.hAKHPbD23895@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Lynn: > I'd recommend that you rather turn to Jonathan Swift > for enlightenment. > The subject header should have been a clue. > clo I read the obvious ones years aog, with no real regad for their satirical nature. I will re-read. I value advice. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 11:46:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKHka6q025840 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:46:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 34C631E60146; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:39:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6C541E60144 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:39:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A51A05@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:32:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 344737 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:32:37 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKHWbD24871 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:32:37 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001EFC34@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:32:36 -0500 Message-Id: <200311201732.hAKHWbD24871@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:32:36 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Att BrP - was Re: Two Matters To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:29:55 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >> Lynn: >> I'd recommend that you rather turn to Jonathan Swift >> for enlightenment. >> The subject header should have been a clue. >> clo > >I read the obvious ones years aog [sic], with no real regad [sic] >for their satirical nature. It appears that history repeats itself. clo > I will re-read. I value >advice. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 11:53:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKHrn6q025869 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:53:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 411501E60146; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:47:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03C541E60144 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:47:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001EFC62@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:39:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 345233 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:39:49 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKHdnD25912 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:39:49 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A51A3E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:39:48 -0500 Message-Id: <200311201739.hAKHdnD25912@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:39:49 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Att BrP - was Re: Two Matters To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:32:36 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:29:55 -0800, Lynne Weber >wrote: > >>> Lynn: [sic] >>> I'd recommend that you rather turn to Jonathan Swift >>> for enlightenment. >>> The subject header should have been a clue. >>> clo >> >>I read the obvious ones years aog [sic], with no real regad [sic] >>for their satirical nature. > >It appears that history repeats itself. >clo > >> I will re-read. I value >>advice. >> From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 11:55:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKHtV6q025892 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:55:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3A53D1E60146; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:48:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA1601E60136 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:48:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A51A4D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:41:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 344685 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:41:32 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKHVWD24729 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:31:32 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAKHUdBK008711 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:30:39 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:31:31 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: new refrigerator In-Reply-To: <1893408567.20031120084446@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <20031120024907.14728.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> <20031120024907.14728.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20031119191736.00a867f0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1893408567.20031120084446@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >it. It's on wheels, so it pulls out. Cleaning the back requires some >maneuvering around the fish tank, but it's no big deal. Changing the >filter requires $23, a quick trip to Lowe's (10 minutes in and out, Refrigerators that do not have coils, etc. cleaned regularly tend to become overhaeted and eventually die. Coils etc. should be cleaned, filters sould be changed, connetions should be checked. 2.5 years is a long time. My refrigerator barely fits into the space provided for it. Moving it requires lifting it. I cannot lift it alone. YMMV. Bethnay From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 12:04:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKI4B6q025986 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:04:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 87DC61E602F9; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:57:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34BB01E602F8 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:57:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A51A86@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:50:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 345962 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:50:11 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKHoBD27453 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:50:11 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001EFCA6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:50:10 -0500 Message-Id: <200311201750.hAKHoBD27453@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:50:11 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: new refrigerator To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:31:31 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >Refrigerators that do not have coils, etc. cleaned regularly tend to >become overhaeted and eventually die. Right, that's why I bought one I could vacuum myself. >Coils etc. should be cleaned, filters sould be changed, connetions should >be checked. 2.5 years is a long time. The fridge tells me when to change the filter. (Once/year for me.) What connections should be checked? I'd know if water were leaking. >My refrigerator barely fits into the space provided for it. Moving it >requires lifting it. I cannot lift it alone. Ah. I thought all new fridges had wheels. Love the wheels. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 12:15:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKIFA6q026160 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:15:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C63191E602FC; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:08:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7049E1E602F9 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:08:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A51ACC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:01:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 346545 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:01:10 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKI19D29004 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:01:10 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAKI17Qb025127 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:01:08 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000c01c3af90$4944c160$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200311201729.hAKHTVD24376@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Most Americans have been... Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:01:13 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Remember Green Stamps? You collect points to earn free > items, eg Music CDs, clocks, etc. But one option > is to send the $$ equivalent of the item value (roughly) > to a charity. > > clo This must be something new. Last time I took part in a Harris poll your name was put in for a drawing. Nothing else. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 12:17:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKIHG6q026173 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:17:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 90E6C1E602FC; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:10:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25A781E602FB for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:10:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A51ADF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:03:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 346722 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:03:16 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKI3FD29329 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:03:15 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-217.gwi.net [216.195.152.217]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAKI3DGn058445 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:03:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031120130306.00b4e950@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:03:20 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Most Americans have been... In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031120111025.00b5ce38@pop.gwi.net> References: <20031120160315.21178.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> <332962965.20031120090432@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Is there anyone on the list who involved in Harris polls? >cwv I'm not. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 12:22:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKIMJ6q026245 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:22:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7E42D1E602FB; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:15:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 137DD1E602F9 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:15:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A51AE4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:08:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 347007 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:08:19 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKI8ID29899 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:08:18 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-217.gwi.net [216.195.152.217]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAKI8GGn059396 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:08:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031120130721.00b2d200@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:08:23 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: new refrigerator In-Reply-To: References: <1893408567.20031120084446@WordWrite.com> <20031120024907.14728.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> <20031120024907.14728.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20031119191736.00a867f0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1893408567.20031120084446@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Coils etc. should be cleaned, filters sould be changed, connetions should >be checked. 2.5 years is a long time. --Bethnay I didn't even know that refrigerators had filters. Nor have I ever cleaned a 'frig coil. Nor have I ever had a 'frig die on me. I don't even clean under them or behind them. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 12:32:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKIWO6q026348 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:32:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 278EA1E602F9; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:25:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B87C71E60151 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:25:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A51B39@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:18:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 347503 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:18:24 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKIIOD31319 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:18:24 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001EFD69@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:18:23 -0500 Message-Id: <200311201818.hAKIIOD31319@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:18:23 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: new refrigerator To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:08:23 -0500, bonniev wrote: >I didn't even know that refrigerators had filters. The filter I'm talking about is the water filter. You can buy fridges that have a drink station in the door, and some of those have water filters on them. The water filter is in the fridge, and it filters the water before it hits the ice-maker or the drink station. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 12:34:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKIYR6q026358 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:34:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CDB4B1E602F9; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:27:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C9A11E60146 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:27:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A51B49@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:20:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 347099 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:20:27 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKIAHD30151 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:10:17 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAKI9OBK026917 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:09:24 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:10:16 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: new refrigerator In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031120130721.00b2d200@pop.gwi.net> Message-ID: References: <1893408567.20031120084446@WordWrite.com> <20031120024907.14728.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> <20031120024907.14728.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20031119191736.00a867f0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1893408567.20031120084446@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031120130721.00b2d200@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, bonniev wrote: >I didn't even know that refrigerators had filters. Nor have I ever cleaned >a 'frig coil. Nor have I ever had a 'frig die on me. I don't even clean >under them or behind them. I used to live that way. (But I did not call them <'frigs>.) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 12:34:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKIYT6q026361 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:34:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5FE551E602FB; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:27:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FBE81E602F9 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:27:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001EFD45@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:20:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 347652 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:20:27 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKIKDD31621 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:20:14 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:20:07 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B777E2@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Worrying about TWD Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:20:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Lynne Weber [mailto:lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] > Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 9:45 PM > --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > He's quieter now. That > > also is worrisome. > > But he's so hard to catch. Do you think he would fall > for the trap gambit again? > > > as in whether it's > > good for them or not. (And I agree with you that > > it's good for them.) > > It would seem so very strange not to have > > conversations with Spencer -- > > or with random other dogs I meet. And I talked > > quite a bit to those > > cats I was feeding. > > My interaction with all types of animals is the cause > of some embarrassment to my friends and family. > > Several years ago, we went on a camping trip to north > Alabama (Guntersville State Park), and before we left, > my mother-in-law begged me not to approach any bears. > I "caved in" and promised I would not. During summers in high school, several of us would head up to the wilds in Canada to decompress from another school year. We were pretty careful about keeping our campsites off of the bears' maps (fish weren't cleaned anywhere nearby, anything which had smells - toothpaste, etc. went up in bear bags, etc.) Everyone talked about sleeping in the raw at home, but most did not in the woods. One night, the bears wouldn't leave our canoes alone and one in our group decided enough was enough, so he bounded out of his tent - in the raw (he was one of the exceptions in the woods) screaming like a banshee. The bears weren't sure what to do about him other than to turn tail and run. I've been around a lot of large animals (not always by choice) except for bears and cats (mountain lions | pumas | panthers) and I intend to keep them off of that list simply because you have no safe areas, unless you're out in the water. If you aren't in the water, they can outrun you and can get you if you go up a tree. Observing them from a distance is fine by me. I'm not even certain I'd feel safe around them with a good-sized gun, knowing you'd have to take a shoulder out first (to impair their ability to run, otherwise, you're dead). From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 12:38:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKIc36q026390 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:38:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8772E1E602F9; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:31:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B1A21E60146 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:31:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A51B6D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:24:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 347953 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:24:03 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAKIO2D32272 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:24:02 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:24:02 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:23:42 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Att BrP - was Re: Two Matters Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hAKIc36q026390 :-) >>> clostran@SYR.EDU 11/20/03 12:25PM >>> Top Posting w/ apologies to list, because it's how BrP reads: Paul, This strikes me as being a remake of what happened to me at the 1974 CNY Annual Conference, in re the proposal for amnesty for all involved in the Attica uprising. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 12:44:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKIin6q026456 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:44:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8D1801E60146; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:38:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D301B1E60151 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:38:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A51BB3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:30:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 348643 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:30:48 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKIUlD01158 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:30:48 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAKIUeQb007047 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:30:43 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000601c3af94$71d1c7a0$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B777E2@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Subject: Re: Re: Worrying about TWD Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:30:58 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > During summers in high school, several of us would head up to the wilds in > Canada to decompress from another school year. We were pretty careful about > keeping our campsites off of the bears' maps (fish weren't cleaned anywhere > nearby, anything which had smells - toothpaste, etc. went up in bear bags, > etc.) Everyone talked about sleeping in the raw at home, but most did not > in the woods. One night, the bears wouldn't leave our canoes alone and one > in our group decided enough was enough, so he bounded out of his tent - in > the raw (he was one of the exceptions in the woods) screaming like a > banshee. The bears weren't sure what to do about him other than to turn > tail and run. I've been around a lot of large animals (not always by > choice) except for bears and cats (mountain lions | pumas | panthers) and I > intend to keep them off of that list simply because you have no safe areas, > unless you're out in the water. If you aren't in the water, they can outrun > you and can get you if you go up a tree. Observing them from a distance is > fine by me. I'm not even certain I'd feel safe around them with a good-sized > gun, knowing you'd have to take a shoulder out first (to impair their > ability to run, otherwise, you're dead). > I think you're missing the point of your own story. In this situation, take your clothes off, bound, and scream like a banshee. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 12:48:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKImr6q026499 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:48:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A8BBA1E602FC; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:42:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 326C91E602FB for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:42:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001EFDFB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:34:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 348921 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:34:44 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKIYiD01745 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:34:44 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001EFDC6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:34:43 -0500 Message-Id: <200311201834.hAKIYiD01745@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:34:44 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:30:58 -0600, Doris Markland wrote about what to do when faced with a bear: >I think you're missing the point of your own story. >In this situation, take your clothes off, bound, and >scream like a banshee. You first. [Seriously, I would LOVE to hear what Bill Bryson has to say about this guy that's talking about bears being perfectly harmless--or the guy who wrote the book about the 12 year old kid dragged out of his sleeping bag and eaten.] Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 12:50:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKIom6q026517 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:50:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9DFE31E602FC; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:44:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33D251E602FB for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:44:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A51BDB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:36:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 349112 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:36:48 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKIamD02063 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:36:48 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001EFE08@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:36:47 -0500 Message-Id: <200311201836.hAKIamD02063@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:36:48 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Michelle Shocked To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Is funny. She's live on the radio now, and she said that she saw a bumper sticker that said, "Bush, pull out like your daddy shoulda!" Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 12:55:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKItR6q026586 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:55:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A51DC1E602FB; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:48:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D3181E602F9 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:48:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A51C02@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:41:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 349488 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:41:27 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAKIfQl02809 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:41:27 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:41:26 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:41:21 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Michelle Shocked Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hAKItR6q026586 ah, the memories I remember chanting the same with Nixon's name in place of Bush's. Alas, the similar favorite chant from those days wouldn't work as well changed to "Pull out George" BrP >>> karen@WORDWRITE.COM 11/20/03 01:36PM >>> Is funny. She's live on the radio now, and she said that she saw a bumper sticker that said, "Bush, pull out like your daddy shoulda!" Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 13:02:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKJ236q026658 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:02:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 73A601E602FC; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:55:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D95B61E602FB for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:55:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001EFE61@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:48:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 349977 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:48:02 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKIlwl03981 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:47:59 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:47:51 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B777E4@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Worrying about TWD Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:47:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Karen Kay [mailto:karen@WORDWRITE.COM] > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 1:35 PM > On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:30:58 -0600, Doris Markland > > wrote about what to do when faced with a bear: > >I think you're missing the point of your own story. > >In this situation, take your clothes off, bound, and > >scream like a banshee. > > You first. > > [Seriously, I would LOVE to hear what Bill Bryson has to say > about this guy > that's talking about bears being perfectly harmless--or the > guy who wrote > the book about the 12 year old kid dragged out of his sleeping bag and > eaten.] He didn't exactly ask our permission before he did it - and there were consequences beyond what most people realize. We were on the Canadian side of the border, in what's known as Quetico. It's Federally protected wilderness. I think there's a mirror image on the southern side of the border as well. No permanent dwellings, etc. etc. The exception was a lone holdout known as "Knife Lake Dorothy" who lived alone on the US side and was known to make homemade root beer for anyone stopping buy. The Chicago Tribune had a nice story about her in their Sunday magazine after her passing. Back to the consequences. The maps are helpful for finding portages & whatnot but they're really helpful for deciding how dangerous the waterways are. Motorized vehicles (as in fuel-powered) (e.g., sea planes or motor boats) are only permitted on certain marked waterways, even in a life-and-death situation (remember, this is a federally protected wilderness). Should our compatriot have picked the wrong bear that night and survived an encounter, my being an EMT and the only emergency staff for several hundred miles might not have helped him at all. Fortunately, he only did it that one time. P.S. This was over twenty years ago so I'd be interested to know if the rules have changed for Quetico. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 13:07:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKJ7I6q026706 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:07:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B70BB1E602FC; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:00:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F8081E602FB for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:00:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A51C47@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:53:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 350391 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:53:18 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKIrIl04806 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:53:18 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001EFE92@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:53:17 -0500 Message-Id: <200311201853.hAKIrIl04806@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:53:18 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Michelle Shocked To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:41:21 -0500, Paul Barfoot wrote: >ah, the memories I remember chanting the same with Nixon's name in place of Bush's. But it's not as poignant, because we *know* George's daddy. >Alas, the similar favorite chant from those days wouldn't work as well changed to "Pull out George" Well, men will nickname their penises anything... I'm assuming that someone, someone has named his George. Karen "Think squishy astronauts!" From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 13:14:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKJEq6q026781 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:14:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 490541E602FC; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:08:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB3F01E602FB for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:08:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A51CA3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 14:00:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 350976 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 14:00:52 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAKJ0pl06009 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 14:00:51 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:00:44 PST Message-ID: <20031120190044.63726.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:00:44 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: new refrigerator To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200311201818.hAKIIOD31319@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:08:23 -0500, bonniev > wrote: > >I didn't even know that refrigerators had filters. > > The filter I'm talking about is the water filter. > You can buy fridges that > have a drink station in the door, and some of those > have water filters on > them. The water filter is in the fridge, and it > filters the water before it > hits the ice-maker or the drink station. When looking at the back panel of freezer (inside), can you see two little pairs of hooks peeking over the top, looking at you? I think one of mine has loosened and it makes it look as though a crab is hanging down the back of the panel. You can only see the first two claws. What do these crabs do besides hang? Thank you for the (sic). You, too, clo. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 13:23:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKJN96q026905 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:23:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D04B41E60303; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:16:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DE9B1E60130 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:16:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A51CC4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 14:09:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 351410 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 14:09:08 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKJ98l07070 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 14:09:08 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 14:09:02 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B777E5@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Speaking of USAers in Europe Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 14:08:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Doris Markland [mailto:dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM] > Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 7:58 PM > From: "Natalie Maynor" > Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 6:38 PM > > YES to this: > > > > http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/11/19/national/main584538.shtml > > > > -- > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > I would say yes also, for a couple of reasons. Not > only for the understanding of our young people . . . > but also for the understanding of people in those countries. > From comments I keep reading I feel that so many > people have way weird ideas about > us, our life, our motives, etc. Some of our bright young > kids can carry quite a different impression. Just out of curiosity, would students make better hostages than reporters? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 13:35:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKJZM6q027035 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:35:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0692E1E60304; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:28:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 136AB1E6013A for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:28:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A51D25@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 14:21:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 352333 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 14:21:20 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAKJLKl09367 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 14:21:20 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:21:10 PST Message-ID: <20031120192110.94590.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:21:10 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Speaking of USAers in Europe To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B777E5@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Phil Paxton wrote: > Just out of curiosity, would students make better > hostages than reporters? Well, there are some students... __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 13:43:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKJh46q027238 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:43:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E65C21E60304; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:36:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1BC81E60305 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:36:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A51D63@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 14:28:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 352912 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 14:28:59 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKJSwl10707 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 14:28:58 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAKJSsQb018045 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:28:56 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000e01c3af9c$9430f020$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Londonitis Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:29:12 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hAKJh46q027238 This is not one of my reading sources, but I ran across a reference to this article quite by chance this morning and found it interesting. http://tinyurl.com/vuxh - D. 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From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 15:10:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKLAV6q028230 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:10:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D153C1E60344; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:03:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79A001E6033F for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:03:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A52082@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:56:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 360676 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:56:28 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKKuRl27208 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:56:27 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-217.gwi.net [216.195.152.217]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAKKuNGn091760 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:56:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031120155550.00bb46b0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:56:30 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: new refrigerator In-Reply-To: <200311201818.hAKIIOD31319@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >The filter I'm talking about is the water filter. You can buy fridges that >have a drink station in the door, and some of those have water filters on >them. --Karen Ah. Ours does have a drink station in the door. I never looked if there is a filter. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 15:14:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKLEt6q028248 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:14:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4384F1E6033F; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:08:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50FC51E60344 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:08:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A520D6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:00:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 361219 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:00:53 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKL0rl28566 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:00:53 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F02E7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:00:52 -0500 Message-Id: <200311202100.hAKL0rl28566@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:00:52 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: new refrigerator To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:56:30 -0500, bonniev wrote: >Ah. Ours does have a drink station in the door. I never looked if there >is a filter. I think you'd know--mine has a light in the panel on the door that comes on when the filter needs to be replaced. Ligniere bought a fridge 'just like mine', but it doesn't have a water filter, so I know they are still making them without. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 15:16:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKLGo6q028253 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:16:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0173D1E6033F; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:10:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B661E60344 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:10:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A520E1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:02:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 361360 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:02:48 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKL2ll28954 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:02:47 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F02F5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:02:47 -0500 Message-Id: <200311202102.hAKL2ll28954@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:02:47 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Pet peeve To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "councilate" for consulate K From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 15:22:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKLMF6q028312 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:22:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 71B0B1E60345; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:15:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9C631E60344 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:15:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A52149@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:08:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 362460 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:08:13 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKL8Dl30286 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:08:13 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F035A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:08:12 -0500 Message-Id: <200311202108.hAKL8Dl30286@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:08:13 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Speaking of USAers in Europe To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Speaking of USAers in Europe, my daughter came home with a thread leading back to Germany, which has now rebounded, calling her new Munich-er beau over to spend Tkgvg w/ us. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 17:20:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKNKr6q029819 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:20:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 365681E60334; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:14:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8D801E6030F for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:14:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A525F3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:06:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 372950 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:06:50 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKN6ol18109 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:06:50 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.164.36]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031120230645.LEPF1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:06:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBD4906.DC0DC67F@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:06:46 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Most Americans have been... References: <20031120112307.48133.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > Doesn't matter. I don't think you'd be very welcome > > today, anyway. > > Theo > > Well, that's one factor I have taken into > consideration. Thanks for the advice. I think it is not a problem if you're an individual traveler, not hanging out in a gaggle of USAers and not swaggering around wearing cowboy boots. I haven't been to Europe since the US attack on Iraq, but I know many people who have and who have not encountered any problems. I think I mentioned earlier my good friend who is spending this year in Paris. (She has been there a zillion times since Dubya's war started, but this time she's there to stay a whole year.) She's loving it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 17:25:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKNPV6q029860 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:25:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8F2821E60334; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:18:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AD051E6030F for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:18:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A52610@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:11:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 373213 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:11:29 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKNBTl18611 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:11:29 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.164.36]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031120231122.LGHE1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:11:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBD4A1C.A591A31F@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:11:24 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: new refrigerator References: <20031120024907.14728.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> <20031120024907.14728.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20031119191736.00a867f0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Sears will come once a year to clean, change the filter, etc. I know that Ok, so I thought I was fairly decent about taking care of housely matters that needed taking care of. I religiously change/clean filters of various kinds, but I have managed to live sixty years without knowing that refrigerators had filters. Where are they? My refrigerators have all lived long lives, so I'm wondering about how serious my ignorance on this matter really is -- as in how much it has mattered. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 17:29:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKNTL6q029876 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:29:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3447A1E60334; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:22:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8DA91E6030F for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:22:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F0813@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:15:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 373406 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:15:15 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKNFFl19024 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:15:15 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.164.36]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031120231510.LHOW1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:15:10 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBD4AFF.27AAB46B@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:15:11 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: new refrigerator References: <20031120024907.14728.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> <20031120024907.14728.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20031119191736.00a867f0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1893408567.20031120084446@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > I'm not sure what 'regular service' a fridge requires. I haven't had > anything done to mine in 2.5 years. I haven't done anything to the one in this house -- and I don't know how old it is. Nor did I ever do anything to the one I left in my previous house. It's about 25 years old now and is apparently doing just fine in spite of my of it. I've never done anything to a refrigerator except vacuum behind it occasionally -- and defrost the ones that required it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 17:31:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKNV76q029901 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:31:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 281531E6014E; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:24:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD3CF1E60145 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:24:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A52632@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:17:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 373522 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:17:04 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKNH4l19257 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:17:04 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.164.36]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031120231659.LIFM1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:16:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBD4B69.26EB02F9@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:16:57 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Most Americans have been... References: <332962965.20031120090432@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031120111025.00b5ce38@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > Is there anyone on the list who involved in Harris polls? Hand up. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 17:32:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKNWR6q029907 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:32:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 978FC1E6014E; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:25:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BE921E60145 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:25:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A52621@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:18:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 373665 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:18:25 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKNIPl19542 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:18:25 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.164.36]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031120231820.LISD1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:18:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBD4BBD.6E3775F0@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:18:21 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Finally, I like Stephen King References: <200311201626.hAKGQxD12142@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > >From the Toronto Star: > "King said he has no patience "for those who make a point of pride in > saying they have never read anything by John Grisham, Tom Clancy, Mary > Higgins Clark or any other popular writer." > > "What do you think?" King asked. "You get social academic brownie points > for deliberately staying out of touch with your own culture?"" > > YaY, Stephen!!! Way to go, man! How is he sure it's a point of pride? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 17:35:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKNZO6q029943 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:35:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A0A611E60145; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:28:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E9A61E60128 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:28:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5264A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:21:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 373891 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:21:22 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKNLHl19956 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:21:17 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.164.36]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031120232112.LJUC1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:21:12 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBD4C66.8DB6E9DD@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:21:10 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Finally, I like Stephen King References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: > > I wonder what he thinks about Survivor I am sooo glad that it's finally Thursday again! Does anybody know about next Thursday? My vague memory is that I had worried last year that Survivor would conflict with the Egg Bowl (the Ole Miss - MSU fb game) but that it didn't -- that Survivor wasn't on on Thanksgiving night. I would of course choose watching Survivor over watching The Egg Bowl this year, but I have a feeling that Survivor might be on another night. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 17:36:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKNaB6q029947 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:36:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A6EFB1E6015A; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:29:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CE441E6014E for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:29:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A52657@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:22:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 373946 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:22:09 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKNM8l20093 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:22:08 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-217.gwi.net [216.195.152.217]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAKNM5At080685; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:22:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031120182139.00b36d08@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:22:04 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Most Americans have been... In-Reply-To: <3FBD4906.DC0DC67F@maynor.net> References: <20031120112307.48133.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:06 PM 11/20/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Lynne Weber wrote: > > > Doesn't matter. I don't think you'd be very welcome > > > today, anyway. > > > Theo > > > > Well, that's one factor I have taken into > > consideration. Thanks for the advice. > >I think it is not a problem if you're an individual traveler, not >hanging out in a gaggle of USAers and not swaggering around wearing >cowboy boots. I haven't been to Europe since the US attack on Iraq, but >I know many people who have and who have not encountered any problems. Moreover, not all Europeans are like Theo. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 17:42:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKNgX6q029974 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:42:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9ABBB1E6015A; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:35:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58D571E60145 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:35:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5265B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:28:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 374271 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:28:31 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKNSVl20670 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:28:31 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-217.gwi.net [216.195.152.217]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAKNSTAr081649 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:28:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031120182707.00bc5ef8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:28:36 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Finally, I like Stephen King In-Reply-To: <3FBD4C66.8DB6E9DD@maynor.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I am sooo glad that it's finally Thursday again! Does anybody know >about next Thursday? -- Natalie I don't know. But I did read in tonight's newspaper that the stage they were building in an old convent in Panama collapsed. That's where they were going to have the reunion show next month. Now they'll have to have it in Los Angeles. In the studio, I guess. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 17:43:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKNhl6q029978 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:43:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B8CB11E6015A; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:37:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77DCF1E60128 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:37:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A52684@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:29:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 374378 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:29:45 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKNTjl20858 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:29:45 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.164.36]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031120232940.LMRK1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:29:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBD4E63.10950A28@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:29:39 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Most Americans have been... References: <20031120172324.85592.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > I haven't looked, lately. I am so insane that I enjoy > filling out forms. Me too! I love participating in surveys, unless I'm really snowed under with other stuff at the time. I've always loved it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 17:47:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKNlW6q030019 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:47:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4F17F1E6015A; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:40:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 128771E6014D for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:40:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A52699@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:33:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 374565 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:33:30 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKNXTl21282 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:33:29 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.164.36]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031120233324.LNWX1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:33:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBD4F46.97FD4A41@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:33:26 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Most Americans have been... References: <200311201715.hAKHFTD21975@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <000401c3af8b$2bd80c40$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > Among other things, you can donate money to charity. > > clo > > Umm, am I missing something? You can > donate money to charity without taking > polls. That's something I've thought about re license tags. Now that we have one with a dog and a cat on it that gives money to our local Humane Society, I have thought that I should get one. But then I've thought about how I can simply give that money directly to the OCHS instead of adding the layer of the courthouse to it. Then again, maybe sporting such a tag would encourage others to give. I dunno (but am very happy with my new-last-spring tag and its easy-to-remember number). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 17:48:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKNmZ6q030039 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:48:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 08EB21E60128; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:41:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B921B1E6014D for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:41:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A52692@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:34:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 374594 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:34:32 -0500 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKNYWl21353 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:34:32 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.18b.2261bca6 (4230) for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:34:25 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <18b.2261bca6.2ceea981@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:34:25 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Worrying about TWD To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/20/2003 9:02:22 AM Central Standard Time, 14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET writes: << Are you paying enough attention to him? Dogs need a lot of attention. How old is he again? >> I thought I was, but I guess he doesn't think so. Both Mom and I spend more time with him than with Sweetie since we got him. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 17:49:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKNns6q030069 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:49:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 968B31E6014D; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:43:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B6BD1E60128 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:43:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A52699@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:35:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 374659 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:35:52 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKNZql21481 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:35:52 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.164.36]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031120233547.LOSN1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:35:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBD4FD4.CE3B21B1@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:35:48 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: new refrigerator References: <200311201750.hAKHoBD27453@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > The fridge tells me when to change the filter. (Once/year for me.) Does it speak? Does it tell you where the filter lives in its bowels? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 17:52:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKNqG6q030090 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:52:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E82381E6015A; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:45:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DCA11E6014D for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:45:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F089B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:38:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 374840 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:38:14 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKNcEl21827 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:38:14 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.164.36]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031120233809.LPPH1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:38:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBD5055.1E9C0DD@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:37:57 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: new refrigerator References: <1893408567.20031120084446@WordWrite.com> <20031120024907.14728.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> <20031120024907.14728.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20031119191736.00a867f0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1893408567.20031120084446@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031120130721.00b2d200@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > I didn't even know that refrigerators had filters. WHEW! I was feeling mega-mutant. Really. But I do intend to go and poke around my refrigerator in a little while to see what I can find that looks like a filter. (I always keep instruction manuals for appliances I buy, but this refrigerator was in the house when I moved in -- I didn't buy it and thus don't have its manual.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 17:53:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKNro6q030094 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:53:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 521A01E6014D; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:47:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 135011E6013C for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:47:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A526A1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:39:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 374895 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:39:48 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKNdll21973 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:39:47 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.164.36]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031120233942.LQEU1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:39:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBD50C0.2A6CF118@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:39:44 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: new refrigerator References: <200311201818.hAKIIOD31319@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > The filter I'm talking about is the water filter. You can buy fridges that > have a drink station in the door, and some of those have water filters on > them. The water filter is in the fridge, and it filters the water before it > hits the ice-maker or the drink station. Ohhhhh. So the refrigerator itself doesn't have a filter? I've never had extra trappings like ice-makers or drink-stations or whatever. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 17:55:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAKNtl6q030125 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:55:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CBC391E6015A; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:49:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C8D81E6014D for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:49:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A526C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:41:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 374966 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:41:35 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKNfUl22115 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:41:35 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.164.36]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031120234126.LQYE1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:41:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBD5127.E2CFED4F@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:41:27 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B777E2@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm worrying even more about TWD. He looked super lethargic today. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 18:02:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL02F6q030258 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:02:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AC4F01E6014D; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:55:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64CED1E6013C for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:55:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A526BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:48:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 375187 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:48:13 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKNmDl22697 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:48:13 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAKNmBW1018668 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:48:11 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAKNmAWq018638; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:48:11 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031120153304.00b48070@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:44:08 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Oooh, freaky! In-Reply-To: References: <4.2.2.20031119190837.00a77a20@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031118192627.00a43ab0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <410-22003113193219273@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:53 PM 11/19/2003 -0800, Bookrat wrote: >Did I mention that, as a consequence of a recent promotion, I am now once >again a probationary employee in my job class, and hence eminently >layoff-able should layoffs in my classification occur on campus? Not that >I am in any danger of becoming unemployed, but I'd have to bump some poor >Library Assistant, and that would suck too. (I'd feel like a Donner Party >survivor.) Oh, dear. We do lay off by classification, too. >I trust that you are still finding the student-radiating business to be >compatible with maintaining a sense of human dignity. Although, to my >surprise, I find that not a few of those of my colleagues who are close >enough to retirement to almost taste it are, if anything, even more >despairing about the current situation than those who know they will have >to grin and bear it for another decade or two.... Last year was probably my most difficult because of dealing with budget cuts and laying people off. Some days are harder than others with the cut back in my department but it is also exciting because we are looking at a new practice management system and electronic medical record. It's fun being here for that. Made a couple good hires in the clinical laboratory and we're interviewing for a new lab manager next week. I'm busier so the days are flying by. For some reason they decided I should be on all hiring committees. We are interviewing for a new human resource manager next month and that will take chunks of time. I still enjoy the students very much and the campus. Go Bears! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 18:05:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL05X6q030266 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:05:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0B4761E60158; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:58:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA8801E6014D for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:58:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F08C5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:51:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 375292 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:51:30 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKNpUl22910 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:51:30 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.164.36]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031120235125.LUGL1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:51:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBD537E.E03433E7@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:51:26 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Londonitis References: <000e01c3af9c$9430f020$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > This is not one of my reading sources, > but I ran across a reference to this article > quite by chance this morning and found it > interesting. > > http://tinyurl.com/vuxh Thanks! I found that story hilarious -- well, sad in a way, since I find that kind of insanity sad. But still funny. And it led me to click back to the , a site I plan to add to my regular reading list: http://www.nationalreview.com/ -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 18:06:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL06g6q030303 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:06:42 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 859B21E60342; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:59:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4801B1E60340 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:59:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A526E8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:52:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 375330 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:52:40 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKNqel23036 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:52:40 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.164.36]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031120235235.LUQD1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:52:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBD53C4.3EAA76CE@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:52:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of USAers in Europe References: <200311202108.hAKL8Dl30286@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > Speaking of USAers in Europe, > my daughter came home with a thread leading > back to Germany, which has now rebounded, > calling her new Munich-er beau over to spend > Tkgvg w/ us. Neat! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 18:21:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL0L36q030488 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:21:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E45631E6033A; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:14:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 918441E60315 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:14:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5271B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:07:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 375837 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:07:00 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL070l24409 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:07:00 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAL06t5Z008307 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:06:59 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:08:03 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1034063112.20031120180803@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Most Americans have been... In-Reply-To: <119f1e9c4.e9c4119f1@optonline.net> References: <119f1e9c4.e9c4119f1@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 20, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: > We have coyotes and fox, possum and raccoons, but I have never seen an armadillo. I've seen of armadillos, as in I've seen holes they dug up around plants. But I've only seen a dead one. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 18:24:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL0Oq6q030541 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:24:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 592B21E6033A; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:18:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00B121E60315 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:18:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A52718@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:10:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 375917 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:10:49 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL0Aml24700 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:10:48 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAL0AZv8026297 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:10:48 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:11:43 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1308479087.20031120181143@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Finally, I like Stephen King In-Reply-To: <3FBD4BBD.6E3775F0@maynor.net> References: <200311201626.hAKGQxD12142@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FBD4BBD.6E3775F0@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 20, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> >> >From the Toronto Star: >> "King said he has no patience "for those who make a point of pride in >> saying they have never read anything by John Grisham, Tom Clancy, Mary >> Higgins Clark or any other popular writer." >> >> "What do you think?" King asked. "You get social academic brownie points >> for deliberately staying out of touch with your own culture?"" >> >> YaY, Stephen!!! Way to go, man! > How is he sure it's a point of pride? He listened to the speaker before him at this awards ceremony. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 18:25:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL0Pn6q030558 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:25:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2F2AB1E60315; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:19:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E05441E60158 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:19:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5271E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:11:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 375960 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:11:47 -0500 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL0Bkl24803 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:11:46 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.150.26fcdd45 (4230) for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:11:28 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <150.26fcdd45.2ceeb230@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:11:28 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Worrying about TWD To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/20/2003 5:41:51 PM Central Standard Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: I'm worrying even more about TWD. He looked super lethargic today. It's time to get the shelter involved. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 18:26:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL0QX6q030573 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:26:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 519E51E60342; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:19:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 094661E60340 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:19:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A52731@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:12:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 376058 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:12:31 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL0CUl24977 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:12:30 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAL0CQv8028290 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:12:30 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:13:34 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1006093501.20031120181334@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: new refrigerator In-Reply-To: <3FBD4FD4.CE3B21B1@maynor.net> References: <200311201750.hAKHoBD27453@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FBD4FD4.CE3B21B1@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 20, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> The fridge tells me when to change the filter. (Once/year for me.) > Does it speak? Does it tell you where the filter lives in its bowels? Yes, Natalie. There's a little camera inside that watches my every move. When I get water from the sink, it screams, "No!!!! Get it here!" Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 18:28:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL0St6q030583 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:28:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1F2F01E60342; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:22:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D02C11E6033A for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:22:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A52736@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:14:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 376209 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:14:52 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL0Eql25293 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:14:52 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAL0El5Z016008 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:14:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:15:56 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <129004890.20031120181556@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: new refrigerator In-Reply-To: <3FBD50C0.2A6CF118@maynor.net> References: <200311201818.hAKIIOD31319@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FBD50C0.2A6CF118@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 20, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Ohhhhh. So the refrigerator itself doesn't have a filter? I've never > had extra trappings like ice-makers or drink-stations or whatever. It's all fully integrated in the newfangled ones. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 18:30:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL0Ue6q030615 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:30:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A52729@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:16:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 376291 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:16:15 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL0GEl25571 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:16:14 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAL0GA5Z017587 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:16:14 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:17:18 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1774001174.20031120181718@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Worrying about TWD In-Reply-To: <150.26fcdd45.2ceeb230@aol.com> References: <150.26fcdd45.2ceeb230@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 20, 2003, Evelyn Duncan wrote: > In a message dated 11/20/2003 5:41:51 PM Central Standard Time, > natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: > I'm worrying even more about TWD. He looked super lethargic today. > It's time to get the shelter involved. So they can euthanize him now? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 18:39:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL0dJ6q030702 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:39:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1DB3B1E60340; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:30:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B49BB1E6033A for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:30:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A52740@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:23:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 376564 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:23:12 -0500 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL0NBl26183 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:23:11 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.10c.2c5f6ece (4230) for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:22:52 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <10c.2c5f6ece.2ceeb4dc@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:22:52 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Worrying about TWD To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/20/2003 6:16:32 PM Central Standard Time, Karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: << So they can euthanize him now? >> If that shelter is like this one, they'll try to get him healthy so he can be adopted out. This one kept Bennie for 3 weeks before we adopted him. Are there no-kill shelters around Starkville? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 18:45:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL0jf6q030817 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:45:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E06561E60327; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:38:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99B361E60158 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:38:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5276B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:31:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 376487 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:31:38 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL0Lcl25993 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:21:38 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAL0KhBK001440 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:20:45 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:21:35 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: new refrigerator In-Reply-To: <3FBD4A1C.A591A31F@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <20031120024907.14728.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> <20031120024907.14728.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20031119191736.00a867f0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FBD4A1C.A591A31F@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Ok, so I thought I was fairly decent about taking care of housely >matters that needed taking care of. I religiously change/clean filters >of various kinds, but I have managed to live sixty years without knowing >that refrigerators had filters. Where are they? My refrigerators have >all lived long lives, so I'm wondering about how serious my ignorance on >this matter really is -- as in how much it has mattered. Most do not have them. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 19:09:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL19k6q031079 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:09:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 040781E6032B; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:03:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAC821E60315 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:03:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F0A09@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:55:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 377460 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:55:43 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL0jhl28060 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:45:43 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAL0ioBK010466 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:44:50 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:45:42 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD In-Reply-To: <20031120035957.53809.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031120035957.53809.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >For a while when we didn't here from you, I was afraid >YOU had gotten into that freaky stuff in your >refrigerator. Glad to hear you survived, and you have >a new, fail-safe "ice box". Thanks. Re : You all gave me wonderful advice, using temps etc. to caution me. But it was not until my SD said to me that I no longer had a refrigerator but an icebox that I knew exactly what I could keep/eat and what I had to throw away. It's the power of the image. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 19:10:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL1A86q031084 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:10:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5BBDB1E6032B; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:03:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 226F21E60315 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:03:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A527D9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:56:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 377812 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:56:06 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL0u5l28927 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:56:05 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.164.36]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031121005557.WSKD1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:55:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBD629F.407768C1@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:55:59 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Oooh, freaky! References: <4.2.2.20031119190837.00a77a20@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031118192627.00a43ab0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <410-22003113193219273@earthlink.net> <5.1.1.5.2.20031120153304.00b48070@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > back in my department but it is also exciting because we are looking at a > new practice management system and electronic medical record. It's fun > being here for that. Made a couple good hires in the clinical laboratory > and we're interviewing for a new lab manager next week. So Arnold is making everything rosy? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 19:10:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL1AW6q031101 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:10:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1745F1E60342; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:03:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE19F1E6032B for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:03:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A527C0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:56:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 377831 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:56:28 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL0uSl28961 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:56:28 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.164.36]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031121005623.WSPD1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:56:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBD62B8.469E3FD4@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:56:24 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD References: <150.26fcdd45.2ceeb230@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > It's time to get the shelter involved. How? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 19:11:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL1Bv6q031140 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:11:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ED8AE1E60346; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:05:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFF171E60342 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:05:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A527C3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:57:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 377865 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:57:54 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL0vsl29046 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:57:54 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.164.36]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031121005749.WTFX1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:57:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBD630E.6E085687@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:57:50 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: new refrigerator References: <200311201818.hAKIIOD31319@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FBD50C0.2A6CF118@maynor.net> <129004890.20031120181556@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Ohhhhh. So the refrigerator itself doesn't have a filter? I've never > > had extra trappings like ice-makers or drink-stations or whatever. > > It's all fully integrated in the newfangled ones. So when I need a new refrigerator, I will be required to have stuff like an ice-maker? I find that depressing. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 19:12:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL1Cl6q031156 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:12:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 364221E6032B; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:06:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB081E60315 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:06:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A527DA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:58:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 377901 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:58:45 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL0wel29104 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:58:40 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.164.36]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031121005835.WTOO1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:58:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBD633C.A5CF0264@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:58:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD References: <150.26fcdd45.2ceeb230@aol.com> <1774001174.20031120181718@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > It's time to get the shelter involved. > > So they can euthanize him now? ?? The shelter is on record and in print as saying it will not under any circumstances euthanize The White Dog. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 19:18:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL1IE6q031247 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:18:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 384CC1E60352; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:11:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F31661E60346 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:11:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A527F3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:04:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 378054 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:04:12 -0500 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL14Bl29559 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:04:11 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1de.135a4fe1 (16930) for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:04:00 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1de.135a4fe1.2ceebe7f@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:03:59 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Worrying about TWD To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/20/2003 6:56:55 PM Central Standard Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << Evelyn Duncan wrote: > It's time to get the shelter involved. How? >> Can you contact a no-kill shelter? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 19:23:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL1Ne6q031303 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:23:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BE6751E6034D; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:16:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E2241E60346 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:16:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A527DF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:09:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 378126 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:09:37 -0500 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL19bl29804 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:09:37 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.e.38aa5c4f (16930) for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:09:23 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@AOL.COM Message-ID: Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:09:23 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] new refrigerator To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/20/2003 6:58:04 PM Central Standard Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << So when I need a new refrigerator, I will be required to have stuff like an ice-maker? I find that depressing. >> Not if you don't want it. A lot of refrigerators come in both models. I would like to have one that's frost-free. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 19:24:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL1O26q031354 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:24:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BDA3A1E60346; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:17:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81D361E6032B for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:17:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A527E1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:09:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 377961 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:09:59 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL0xxl29223 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:59:59 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAL0x6BK017768 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:59:06 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:59:59 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Most Americans have been... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: >I am not involved in Harris polls Nor me. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 19:25:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL1P16q031371 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:25:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8E0391E60346; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:18:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 524001E6032B for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:18:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A527FE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:10:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 377975 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:10:58 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL10vl29335 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:00:57 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAL105BK018050 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:00:05 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:00:57 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: new refrigerator In-Reply-To: <3FBD630E.6E085687@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <200311201818.hAKIIOD31319@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FBD50C0.2A6CF118@maynor.net> <129004890.20031120181556@WordWrite.com> <3FBD630E.6E085687@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >So when I need a new refrigerator, I will be required to have stuff like >an ice-maker? I find that depressing. So you use ice trays still? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 19:25:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL1PZ6q031375 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:25:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7426E1E60315; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:18:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C0011E6032B for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:18:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A527E5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:11:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 378171 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:11:32 -0500 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL1BWl29925 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:11:32 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.33.40f7be52 (16930) for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:11:15 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <33.40f7be52.2ceec033@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:11:15 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Worrying about TWD To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/20/2003 6:58:53 PM Central Standard Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << ?? The shelter is on record and in print as saying it will not under any circumstances euthanize The White Dog. >> YAY! Let's hope it keeps its word. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 19:28:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL1Sn6q031401 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:28:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7CBDD1E60352; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:22:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32ADC1E6032B for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:22:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F0A6E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:14:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 378071 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:14:38 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL14cl29583 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:04:38 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAL13jBK018936 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:03:45 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:04:38 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Most Americans have been... In-Reply-To: <200311201729.hAKHTVD24376@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: References: <200311201729.hAKHTVD24376@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >Remember Green Stamps? You collect points to earn free >items, eg Music CDs, clocks, etc. But one option >is to send the $$ equivalent of the item value (roughly) >to a charity. Do they still exist? I have a bunch somewhere. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 19:44:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL1il6q031512 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:44:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 701981E6034D; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:38:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2981E1E60346 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:38:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F0A75@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:30:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 378351 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:30:44 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL1Kil30503 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:20:44 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAL1JpBK023418 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:19:51 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:20:43 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Most Americans have been... In-Reply-To: <1034063112.20031120180803@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <119f1e9c4.e9c4119f1@optonline.net> <1034063112.20031120180803@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >I've seen of armadillos, as in I've seen holes they dug up >around plants. But I've only seen a dead one. I grew up with them. I have even dug them up. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 19:47:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL1ll6q031527 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:47:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DE49A1E60354; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:41:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 963B31E60352 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:41:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5283E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:33:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 378848 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:33:44 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL1Xil31556 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:33:44 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAL1XhW1021950 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:33:43 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAL1XfWq021915; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:33:42 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031120173511.00a2f600@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:35:54 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Oooh, freaky! In-Reply-To: <3FBD629F.407768C1@maynor.net> References: <4.2.2.20031119190837.00a77a20@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031118192627.00a43ab0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <410-22003113193219273@earthlink.net> <5.1.1.5.2.20031120153304.00b48070@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:55 PM 11/20/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty Clark wrote: > > > back in my department but it is also exciting because we are looking at a > > new practice management system and electronic medical record. It's fun > > being here for that. Made a couple good hires in the clinical laboratory > > and we're interviewing for a new lab manager next week. > >So Arnold is making everything rosy? Yeah, right. Our strategy is to not even submit a budget. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 19:49:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL1nG6q031550 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:49:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 005341E6034D; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:42:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B87811E60346 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:42:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A52840@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:35:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 378880 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:35:13 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL1ZDl31688 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:35:13 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAL1Yrl6004357 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:34:54 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:36:20 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <6104445.20031120193620@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: new refrigerator In-Reply-To: <3FBD630E.6E085687@maynor.net> References: <200311201818.hAKIIOD31319@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FBD50C0.2A6CF118@maynor.net> <129004890.20031120181556@WordWrite.com> <3FBD630E.6E085687@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 20, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > So when I need a new refrigerator, I will be required to have stuff like > an ice-maker? I find that depressing. No, I think they'll let you have a instead. I can't believe you don't use an ice-maker, living in the deep south and all. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 20:25:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL2PN6q031873 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:25:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 456D71E60355; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:18:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BB601E60141 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:18:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A528A2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:11:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 379932 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:11:19 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL2BJl01999 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:11:19 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.164.36]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031121021110.IRSZ11940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:11:10 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBD7440.3C5BC07F@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:11:12 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD References: <10c.2c5f6ece.2ceeb4dc@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > If that shelter is like this one, they'll try to get him healthy so he > can be adopted out. This one kept Bennie for 3 weeks before we > adopted him. Yes, that is indeed what they did. But then he escaped from the adopter and returned to campus. TWD (aka Casper) was at the shelter for only two weeks, though, not three. > Are there no-kill shelters around Starkville? The Starkville shelter will not kill him. That is for sure. But somebody has got to catch him to take him to the shelter. It worked once before, but apparently it has not worked again. The dog-catcher can't come catch him because his jurisdiction is limited to Starkville. MSU is not in Starkville. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 20:29:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL2Tg6q031924 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:29:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E4E451E60355; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:22:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A61891E60141 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:22:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A528B2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:15:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 380088 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:15:39 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL2Fdl02305 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:15:39 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.164.36]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031121021533.ITRY11940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:15:33 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBD7547.12AD355F@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:15:35 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD References: <20031120035957.53809.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > me. But it was not until my SD said to me that I no longer had a SD -- Soul Dog? Sense of Deprivation? Secret Dalliant? And suddenly I remember something I was going to ask you: Does Maria get acupuncture? There was a horse on the cover of the UT Alum magazine that came today, a horse with needles poking into it. I thought it might be Maria until I noticed that it had on a collar saying something like Big Boy. While walking from the p.o., I glanced at the article and learned that the UT horse acupuncturist does lots of acupunction for and they they like it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 20:30:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL2UN6q031937 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:30:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4B7C81E60354; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:23:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09AD31E60141 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:23:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5289A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:16:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 380135 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:16:20 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL2GJl02399 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:16:19 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.164.36]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031121021614.IUAP11940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:16:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBD7570.1F963000@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:16:16 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: new refrigerator References: <200311201818.hAKIIOD31319@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FBD50C0.2A6CF118@maynor.net> <129004890.20031120181556@WordWrite.com> <3FBD630E.6E085687@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > So you use ice trays still? Yes. They work just fine. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 20:31:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL2VO6q031945 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:31:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8AF061E60358; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:24:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B9D21E60355 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:24:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A528B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:17:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 380203 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:17:21 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL2HKl02555 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:17:21 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.164.36]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031121021715.IUNE11940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:17:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBD75AD.1274A675@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:17:17 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD References: <1de.135a4fe1.2ceebe7f@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > > It's time to get the shelter involved. > > How? > >> > > Can you contact a no-kill shelter? Shelters can't send people running around to capture dogs out of their jurisdiction, can they? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 20:32:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL2Wr6q031950 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:32:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8BE6D1E60359; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:26:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 503A11E60354 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:26:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A528C7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:18:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 380297 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:18:50 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL2Iol02774 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:18:50 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.164.36]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031121021844.IVFO11940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:18:44 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBD7606.A94A581F@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:18:46 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD References: <33.40f7be52.2ceec033@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > ?? The shelter is on record and in print as saying it will not under > any circumstances euthanize The White Dog. > >> > > YAY! Let's hope it keeps its word. It will. There is no doubt whatsoever about that. But the problem is how TWD is going to get back to the shelter. Maybe as he becomes more and more lethargic, it will become easier to catch him. But that's kind of sad. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 20:37:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL2bx6q032003 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:37:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6EDC31E6035D; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:31:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B4121E60355 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:31:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A528C1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:23:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 380513 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:23:55 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL2Ntl03286 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:23:55 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.164.36]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031121022350.IXQN11940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:23:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBD7738.6681BF74@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:23:52 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: new refrigerator References: <200311201818.hAKIIOD31319@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FBD50C0.2A6CF118@maynor.net> <129004890.20031120181556@WordWrite.com> <3FBD630E.6E085687@maynor.net> <6104445.20031120193620@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > I can't believe you don't use an ice-maker, living in the deep south > and all. My only knowledge of ice-makers is of my mother's ice-maker in Hville. She had to keep remembering to throw away bunches of ice to keep the thing from clogging up. The ice just kept making and making, even if nobody was using any of it. I can't see anything appealing about that. If I'm having a dinner party, I will empty the ice trays into the little bin I have in the freezer for holding ice and will refill the ice trays so that there will be plenty of ice if guests are into drinking scotch or bourbon or gin or whatever. But these days far more people drink wine, which means no ice. I do put ice in the water glasses when having dinner guests, but I don't have dinner guests often enough to make an ice-maker seem desirable. In my everyday life I have no need of ice cubes. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 20:40:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL2e56q032041 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:40:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 369EB1E6035C; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:33:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE7791E6035A for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:33:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A528C9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:26:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 380587 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:26:01 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL2Q1l03469 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:26:01 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-217.gwi.net [216.195.152.217]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAL2PxAr014977 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:26:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031120212442.00bbd480@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:26:07 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: new refrigerator In-Reply-To: <3FBD7570.1F963000@maynor.net> References: <200311201818.hAKIIOD31319@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FBD50C0.2A6CF118@maynor.net> <129004890.20031120181556@WordWrite.com> <3FBD630E.6E085687@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > So you use ice trays still? > >Yes. They work just fine. > -- Natalie I also use ice trays even though we have an ice maker. I hate ice-maker ice. I also hate the noise of a 'frig with an ice-maker. Sadly, this side-by-side with ice and water in the door came with the house. I would never have bought it. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 20:46:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL2kq6q032097 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:46:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7F5C71E6035B; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:40:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F1191E6035A for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:40:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F0B6C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:32:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 380913 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:32:48 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL2Wml04262 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:32:48 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.164.36]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031121023243.JBQG11940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:32:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBD794D.790A8664@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:32:45 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: new refrigerator References: <200311201818.hAKIIOD31319@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FBD50C0.2A6CF118@maynor.net> <129004890.20031120181556@WordWrite.com> <3FBD630E.6E085687@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031120212442.00bbd480@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > I also use ice trays even though we have an ice maker. I hate ice-maker > ice. I also hate the noise of a 'frig with an ice-maker. Sadly, this > side-by-side with ice and water in the door came with the house. I would > never have bought it. I forgot about the noise! That was something else I hated about my mother's refrigerator. It would make grunting, grumbling noises that I found startling until I learned that they were the ice-maker. After that, I didn't find them startling, just annoying. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 20:49:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL2nU6q032123 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:49:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 47A021E6035E; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:42:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F28E01E6035D for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:42:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A528FE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:35:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 381038 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:35:27 -0500 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL2ZQl04512 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:35:26 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.12.38fd90aa (4426) for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:35:09 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <12.38fd90aa.2ceed3dd@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:35:09 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Worrying about TWD To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/20/2003 8:17:44 PM Central Standard Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << Shelters can't send people running around to capture dogs out of their jurisdiction, can they? >> What about a group on campus taking charge of the dog? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 20:55:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL2tQ6q032191 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:55:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 246191E6035D; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:48:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEC521E6035B for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:48:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A52912@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:41:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 380824 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:41:22 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL2VLl04094 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:31:21 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAL2UQBK023317 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:30:28 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:31:19 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD In-Reply-To: <3FBD7547.12AD355F@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <20031120035957.53809.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <3FBD7547.12AD355F@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> me. But it was not until my SD said to me that I no longer had a > >SD -- Soul Dog? Sense of Deprivation? Secret Dalliant? Spiritual Director. >And suddenly I remember something I was going to ask you: Does Maria >get acupuncture? There was a horse on the cover of the UT Alum magazine Not yet. But she has had massage therapy. And she may get Healing Touch soon. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 20:57:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL2vG6q032211 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:57:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 75D7A1E6035E; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:50:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B3A11E6035B for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:50:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F0B8D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:43:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 380922 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:43:13 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL2XDl04299 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:33:13 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAL2WJBK023892 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:32:19 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:33:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: new refrigerator In-Reply-To: <3FBD7738.6681BF74@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <200311201818.hAKIIOD31319@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FBD50C0.2A6CF118@maynor.net> <129004890.20031120181556@WordWrite.com> <3FBD630E.6E085687@maynor.net> <6104445.20031120193620@WordWrite.com> <3FBD7738.6681BF74@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >My only knowledge of ice-makers is of my mother's ice-maker in Hville. >She had to keep remembering to throw away bunches of ice to keep the >thing from clogging up. The ice just kept making and making, even if >nobody was using any of it. I can't see anything appealing about that. Modern refrigerators allow one to turn the ice maker off, Natalie. I love having a filtered water cube/crushed ice and water dispenser. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 21:04:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL34o6q032255 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:04:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8AC961E6035E; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:58:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 494731E6035B for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:58:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A529BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:49:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 382356 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:49:09 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAL2n9l07185 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:49:09 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:49:04 PST Message-ID: <20031121024904.64971.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:49:04 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FBD5127.E2CFED4F@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > I'm worrying even more about TWD. He looked super > lethargic today. Doesn't anyone take as much interest in TWD as you do? After all, he was in the papers, on "local TV", is an escapee, and quite possibly a world-class agent, of the out-in-the-cold variety. I forget what you said about animal control. Do they have no jurisdiction on-campus? It's getting to the point that interested parties must band together and save him for his own sake. We have a young "nuisance abatement officer" (read dog catcher) who is a bit of a red-neck, but quite competent and fond of his charges. Should I volunteer his services? Should I drive over this weekend and help you round him up? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 21:08:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL38L6q032372 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:08:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E17151E60365; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:01:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0EFC1E60363 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:01:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A52A1D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:54:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 383794 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:54:17 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAL2sHl10003 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:54:17 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:54:10 PST Message-ID: <20031121025410.15927.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:54:10 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1774001174.20031120181718@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > So they can euthanize him now? NO!!!! Ms. Kay. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 21:13:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL3Db6q032448 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:13:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D9C8C1E60363; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:06:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 852BD1E60362 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:06:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A52A1D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:59:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 384002 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:59:33 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAL2xXl10476 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:59:33 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:59:26 PST Message-ID: <20031121025926.68081.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:59:26 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Most Americans have been... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >Remember Green Stamps? You collect points to earn > free > >items, eg Music CDs, clocks, etc. But one option > >is to send the $$ equivalent of the item value > (roughly) > >to a charity. > > Do they still exist? I have a bunch somewhere. I will always remember a funeral home in Reading, PA, which had a banner on the side advertising their involvement with green stamps (they gave them with fully planned funerals). Non-locals used to drive by just to see the banner. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 21:17:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL3Hq6q032515 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:17:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 92ECA1E60363; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:11:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BAEA1E60362 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:11:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A52A4A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:03:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 384223 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:03:40 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL33el10953 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:03:40 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.164.36]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031121030334.BRRX20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:03:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBD8088.37F71CED@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:03:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: new refrigerator References: <200311201818.hAKIIOD31319@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FBD50C0.2A6CF118@maynor.net> <129004890.20031120181556@WordWrite.com> <3FBD630E.6E085687@maynor.net> <6104445.20031120193620@WordWrite.com> <3FBD7738.6681BF74@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Modern refrigerators allow one to turn the ice maker off, Natalie. Fine, but what's the point in having one if you don't want one? > I love having a filtered water cube/crushed ice and water dispenser. Somehow this seems at odds with your talk of moving to convents or whatever. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 21:18:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL3IM6q032521 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:18:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B51AE1E60361; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:11:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A72B1E6035B for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:11:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A52A44@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:04:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 384251 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:04:18 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAL342l11014 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:04:02 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:03:50 PST Message-ID: <20031121030350.73129.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:03:50 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FBD7547.12AD355F@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: While walking from the p.o., I > glanced at the article and > learned that the UT horse acupuncturist does lots of > acupunction for > and they they like it. How can they tell if the horses like it? Do they grin and giggle? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 21:19:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL3JZ6q032529 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:19:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DD8701E60361; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:12:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E5F91E6035B for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:12:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A52A4E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:05:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 384277 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:05:31 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL35Vl11103 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:05:31 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.164.36]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031121030525.BSMJ20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:05:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBD80F7.F0AFFA84@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:05:27 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD References: <12.38fd90aa.2ceed3dd@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > What about a group on campus taking charge of the dog? There are many people on campus who have been interested in him, but I don't know what kind of group might be in charge of him or how it would work. It would be great if it did. The campus will be deserted for long periods of time soon, though, which is obviously worrisome. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 21:22:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL3MI6q032562 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:22:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3A72D1E60361; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:15:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E92F41E6035B for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:15:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F0C22@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:08:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 384369 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:08:05 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL384l11400 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:08:04 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.164.36]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031121030759.BTMV20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:07:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBD8191.7ADA9354@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:08:01 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD References: <20031121024904.64971.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Doesn't anyone take as much interest in TWD as you do? I don't know. There seemed to be lots of interested people at first, but I worry that they aren't the persevering sort. > I forget what you said > about animal control. Do they have no jurisdiction > on-campus? No, the animal-control officer (aka dog-catcher) has no jurisdiction on campus. > We have a young "nuisance abatement officer" (read dog > catcher) who is a bit of a red-neck, but quite > competent and fond of his charges. Should I volunteer > his services? Should I drive over this weekend and > help you round him up? YES! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 21:22:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL3Mx6q032567 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:22:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C73441E60361; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:16:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C2441E6035B for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:16:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A52A40@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:08:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 384417 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:08:55 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAL38tl11453 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:08:55 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:08:30 PST Message-ID: <20031121030830.44588.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:08:30 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: new refrigerator To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031120212442.00bbd480@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: I hate ice-maker > ice. I also hate the noise of a 'frig with an > ice-maker. Sadly, this > side-by-side with ice and water in the door came > with the house. I would > never have bought it. One of the first negative criticism I ever heard of ice makers was the gad-awful noise they made. I still do not have one to this day. There are all sorts of complications like extra water lines, filters, jamming, mass production and noise. It's me for ice trays still. > > > bonnie __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 21:27:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL3RE6q032663 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:27:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 413521E60361; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:20:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6ACD1E6035B for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:20:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A52A68@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:13:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 384551 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:13:10 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAL3DAl11736 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:13:10 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:13:04 PST Message-ID: <20031121031304.89079.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:13:04 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FBD8191.7ADA9354@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: Should I drive over this weekend > and > > help you round him up? > > YES! About how long would it take to drive, say, from Birmingham to Starkville? (Where are about 40 miles ESE of B'ham.) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 21:27:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL3Ri6q032666 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:27:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8860F1E60361; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:20:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45A8A1E6035B for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:20:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A52A69@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:13:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 384567 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:13:41 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL3Del11764 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:13:40 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.164.36]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031121031335.BVTP20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:13:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBD82D7.7DAD75F0@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:13:27 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD References: <20031121030350.73129.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > How can they tell if the horses like it? Do they grin > and giggle? I can't remember what it said now, and I no longer have the magazine. I read enough of it while walking from the p.o. and then tossed it onto our free-books/magazines bench. I didn't notice when I left this afternoon whether it was still there. If it is, I'll look at it again and give better answers. But tomorrow is gonna be busy. I swore I would never teach lit again, but this is an emergency -- a horrible one that I don't even want to think about, much less talk about -- a bad, bad car wreck late yesterday. Anyway, I volunteered to teach the hospitalized person's English lit classes at 8 and 9 tomorrow before going to my 10:00 class. I'm trying to rev myself up for talking about "The Rape of the Lock." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 21:32:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL3W56q032715 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:32:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 07AFC1E60361; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:25:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE57C1E60157 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:25:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A52A6E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:18:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 384717 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:18:01 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL3I1l12186 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:18:01 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.164.36]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031121031756.BXIT20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:17:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBD83E5.A3B9767B@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:17:57 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD References: <20031121031304.89079.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > About how long would it take to drive, say, from > Birmingham to Starkville? (Where are about 40 miles > ESE of B'ham.) Not much over two hours from Birmingham. Maybe two and a half. And it's an easy drive now that almost all of Hwy 82 between Tuscaloosa and Columbus has been four-laned. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 21:44:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL3iQ6q000368 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:44:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 29D8A1E60361; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:37:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0C771E60157 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:37:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A52A87@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:30:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 385168 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:30:22 -0500 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL3UMl13209 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:30:22 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.b8.4bb9c3ed (4222) for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:30:10 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:30:10 EST Subject: ER To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Anyone watching ER now? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 22:08:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL48U6q000633 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:08:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 56C401E6015C; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:01:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B4E11E60159 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:01:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A52B0E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:54:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 386375 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:54:25 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAL3sPl15459 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:54:25 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:54:20 PST Message-ID: <20031121035420.31477.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:54:20 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FBD83E5.A3B9767B@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: And > it's an easy drive now that almost all of Hwy 82 > between Tuscaloosa and > Columbus has been four-laned. That time and distance seems practical to me. The thing is, we'd have to have a plan. Are his haunts the same on weekends? Where would we start? Could we come with a way to overcome his ingrained skittishness? How could we lure him, and into what? I fear Chief Zook would not let Tracey (dog man) to leave the state in the city dog truck. And can we come up with all these answers by the time I would have to leave early Sat.? It's about your sign-off time. Sleep on these imponderables, and let me know tomorrow. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 22:09:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL49S6q000643 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:09:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7B7F21E6035E; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:02:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4287D1E6015C for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:02:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A52B2D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:55:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 386421 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:55:24 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAL3tOl15524 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:55:24 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:55:18 PST Message-ID: <20031121035518.87286.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:55:18 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: ER To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > Anyone watching ER now? No, but when it's over, let me know what draws your attention to it especially. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 22:13:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL4Db6q000701 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:13:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A62281E60160; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:06:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D2991E6015F for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:06:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A52B67@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:59:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 386992 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:59:33 -0500 Received: from imo-m03.mx.aol.com (imo-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.6]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL3xXl15967 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:59:33 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.156.280e8c94 (4222) for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:59:20 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <156.280e8c94.2ceee798@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:59:20 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] ER To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/20/2003 9:55:28 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << No, but when it's over, let me know what draws your attention to it especially. >> Are they getting rid of Rocket Romano? I hope not. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 22:17:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL4H16q000755 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:17:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 89C891E60157; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:10:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 504131E60154 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:10:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A52C25@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:02:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 388574 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:02:57 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAL42vl17039 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:02:57 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:02:51 PST Message-ID: <20031121040251.33554.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:02:51 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: ER To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <156.280e8c94.2ceee798@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > Are they getting rid of Rocket Romano? I hope not. What leads you to believe you to wonder this? Does it look like a kill-off? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 22:37:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL4b16q001034 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:37:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6F33C1E60159; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:30:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 369B51E60154 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:30:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A52D9A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:22:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 391495 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:22:57 -0500 Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL4Mvl19673 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:22:57 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1eb.13b71bea (16335) for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:22:50 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1eb.13b71bea.2ceeed1a@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:22:50 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] ER To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/20/2003 10:03:14 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << What leads you to believe you to wonder this? Does it look like a kill-off? >> One helicopter took his arm; another one looked as if it landed right on him. I would miss Paul McCrane on the show; he makes Romano a multi-layered character. Romano can be a prick; in fact, he often is. But there's an inner layer, as if he cared too much once upon a time and it turned around and bit him. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 22:42:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL4gd6q001100 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:42:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DD5E11E6015F; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:35:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75BCB1E60154 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:35:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A52DAC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:28:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 391756 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:28:35 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAL4SYl20256 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:28:34 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:28:29 PST Message-ID: <20031121042829.861.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:28:29 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: ER To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1eb.13b71bea.2ceeed1a@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > I would miss Paul McCrane on the show; he makes > Romano a multi-layered character. Romano can be > a prick; in fact, he often is. But there's an inner > layer, as if he cared too much once upon a time and > it turned around and bit him. Sounds to me like an excellent description of Rick, in Casablanca. I've got to get some sleep, I've been up since 3:30, and what if Natalie needs me to drive to Starkville on Sat.? Hoping you and Bennie and Sweetie are smoking the peace pipe for a while. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 23:46:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL5kJ6q001740 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:46:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DD37C1E60166; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:39:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A156A1E60164 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:39:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A52F87@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 0:32:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 395629 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 00:32:14 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL5WDl26069 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 00:32:14 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAL5W85Z010538 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:32:12 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:33:18 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <231713604.20031120233318@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: new refrigerator In-Reply-To: <20031121030830.44588.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031121030830.44588.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 20, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > One of the first negative criticism I ever heard of > ice makers was the gad-awful noise they made. I still > do not have one to this day. There are all sorts of > complications like extra water lines, filters, > jamming, mass production and noise. It's me for ice > trays still. I never thought I'd own one, but my friend Susan said that I didn't want to buy a fridge without a drink station. The 'complications' are not really, and the convenience is very great. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 23:48:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL5mL6q001744 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:48:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3BA4D1E60164; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:41:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F34B21E60161 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:41:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A52F8E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 0:34:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 395680 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 00:34:17 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL5YGl26233 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 00:34:16 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAL5Xsl6007919 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:33:55 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:35:23 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <275651495.20031120233523@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: ER In-Reply-To: <156.280e8c94.2ceee798@aol.com> References: <156.280e8c94.2ceee798@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 20, 2003, Evelyn Duncan wrote: > In a message dated 11/20/2003 9:55:28 PM Central Standard Time, > lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: > << > No, but when it's over, let me know what draws your > attention to it especially. >>> > Are they getting rid of Rocket Romano? I hope not. How much of him is left? Why on earth don't you want them to get rid of him? He is *the* most hateful person on that show. He has absolutely NO redeeming qualities, and he is deliberately mean to other people. He likes watching suffering, that's why he's in the ER. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 23:49:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL5nm6q001754 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:49:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6DC731E60164; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:43:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3496A1E60161 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:43:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F11A8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 0:35:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 395734 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 00:35:44 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL5Zhl26334 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 00:35:43 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAL5Zcv8026742 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:35:43 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:36:48 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1221255837.20031120233648@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: ER In-Reply-To: <1eb.13b71bea.2ceeed1a@aol.com> References: <1eb.13b71bea.2ceeed1a@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 20, 2003, Evelyn Duncan wrote: > I would miss Paul McCrane on the show; he makes > Romano a multi-layered character. Romano can be > a prick; in fact, he often is. But there's an inner > layer, as if he cared too much once upon a time and > it turned around and bit him. Are you sure you have Asperger's? That is the most amazingly forgiving thing to say about that turd--I see no evidence of him ever having cared for anyone or anything other than his own ego. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 20 23:50:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL5oS6q001764 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:50:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9F1431E60164; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:43:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 674701E60161 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:43:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A52F81@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 0:36:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 395755 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 00:36:24 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL5aOl26409 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 00:36:24 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAL5a2l6009556 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:36:03 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:37:32 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1742339300.20031120233732@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: ER In-Reply-To: <20031121042829.861.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031121042829.861.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 20, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: >> I would miss Paul McCrane on the show; he makes >> Romano a multi-layered character. Romano can be >> a prick; in fact, he often is. But there's an inner >> layer, as if he cared too much once upon a time and >> it turned around and bit him. > Sounds to me like an excellent description of Rick, in > Casablanca. Jeeeze. Romano is the farthest thing from Rick you can find. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 00:15:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL6Fx6q002108 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 00:15:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A6F2F1E60168; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 00:09:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B1691E60153 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 00:09:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5304C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 1:01:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 397402 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 01:01:54 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL61sl28881 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 01:01:54 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAL5S9v8021223 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:28:13 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:29:19 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <149557685.20031120232919@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: new refrigerator In-Reply-To: <3FBD7738.6681BF74@maynor.net> References: <200311201818.hAKIIOD31319@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FBD50C0.2A6CF118@maynor.net> <129004890.20031120181556@WordWrite.com> <3FBD630E.6E085687@maynor.net> <6104445.20031120193620@WordWrite.com> <3FBD7738.6681BF74@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 20, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > My only knowledge of ice-makers is of my mother's ice-maker in Hville. > She had to keep remembering to throw away bunches of ice to keep the > thing from clogging up. Mine stops when it's full. > In my everyday life I have no need of ice cubes. That's the part I find amazing. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 00:17:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL6Hl6q002122 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 00:17:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0DBC91E60153; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 00:11:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A36471E60150 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 00:11:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A53047@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 1:03:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 397540 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 01:03:42 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL63gl29252 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 01:03:42 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAL5TB5Z008555 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:29:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:30:17 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <17810669465.20031120233017@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: new refrigerator In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031120212442.00bbd480@pop.gwi.net> References: <200311201818.hAKIIOD31319@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FBD50C0.2A6CF118@maynor.net> <129004890.20031120181556@WordWrite.com> <3FBD630E.6E085687@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031120212442.00bbd480@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 20, 2003, bonniev wrote: > I also use ice trays even though we have an ice maker. I hate ice-maker > ice. Why?! > I also hate the noise of a 'frig with an ice-maker. Oh. It's a homey noise for me. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 03:21:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL9Lm6q004156 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 03:21:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 27FE51E60183; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 03:15:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E206A1E60152 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 03:15:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A53262@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 4:07:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 402616 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 04:07:41 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL96Tl09310 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 04:06:29 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hAL96MkF020218 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:06:22 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hAL96L7s020216 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:06:21 +0100 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:06:21 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Most Americans have been... Message-ID: <20031121090621.GA20209@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20031120112307.48133.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031120182139.00b36d08@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031120182139.00b36d08@pop.gwi.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander: = At 05:06 PM 11/20/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: = >Lynne Weber wrote: = >> > Doesn't matter. I don't think you'd be very welcome = >> > today, anyway. = >> > Theo = >> = >> Well, that's one factor I have taken into = >> consideration. Thanks for the advice. = > = >I think it is not a problem if you're an individual traveler, not = >hanging out in a gaggle of USAers and not swaggering around wearing = >cowboy boots. I haven't been to Europe since the US attack on Iraq, but = >I know many people who have and who have not encountered any problems. = = Moreover, not all Europeans are like Theo. = = cwv And we want your tourist dollar, however pitiful the thing is these days. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 03:33:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAL9Xl6q004246 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 03:33:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6DB091E60187; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 03:26:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 345431E6017D for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 03:26:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A53255@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 4:19:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 402705 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 04:19:41 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAL9Jel09907 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 04:19:40 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:21:44 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XJP07A4Y; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:21:40 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031121101821.028ae6f8@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:19:31 +0100 Subject: Re: Londonitis In-Reply-To: <000e01c3af9c$9430f020$e1cadece@0018079268> References: <000e01c3af9c$9430f020$e1cadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 13:29 20.11.2003 -0600 skrev Doris Markland: >This is not one of my reading sources, >but I ran across a reference to this article >quite by chance this morning and found it >interesting. > >http://tinyurl.com/vuxh It may not be one of your reading sources, but I seem to remember sometime last spring when you had a link to a reactionary British newspaper - now a US something. I spot a trend ... Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 05:30:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALBUD6q005570 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 05:30:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 94F251E6019C; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 05:22:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A53D1E60198 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 05:22:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A53362@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 6:14:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 404961 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 06:13:59 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALBDxl16665 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 06:13:59 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.159.157]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031121111353.FDCR20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 06:13:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBDF373.BA49CCBA@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 05:13:55 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD References: <20031121035420.31477.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > That time and distance seems practical to me. The > thing is, we'd have to have a plan. Are his haunts > the same on weekends? Where would we start? Could we > come with a way to overcome his ingrained > skittishness? How could we lure him, and into what? > > I fear Chief Zook would not let Tracey (dog man) to > leave the state in the city dog truck. > > And can we come up with all these answers by the time > I would have to leave early Sat.? > > It's about your sign-off time. Sleep on these > imponderables, and let me know tomorrow. Oh dear. I was unable to sleep upon the questions because I didn't read this until now. I am now pondering them, though, and will continue to ponder them while teaching Pope-Pope-grammar this morning. Maybe something in "The Rape of the Lock" will make it all come clear -- there's the part about women shrieking when husbands or lapdogs breathe their last. That's probably significant. Re the city dog truck and leaving the state, couldn't you throw a sheet over its identifying marks when reaching the state line? Or here's another thought: Park the truck at the state line, and I'll pick you and Tracey up there. It's just east of Columbus. We can then capture TWD and put him in my car. Perhaps we should tranquilize him upon catching him so that he won't panic too much in the car. We can then return to the truck, not much more than thirty miles away. I'll continue to ponder the other matters. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 05:30:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALBUJ6q005595 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 05:30:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EF4C21E6018A; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 05:23:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B43241E6017A for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 05:23:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5336D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 6:16:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 405055 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 06:16:12 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALBGCl16902 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 06:16:12 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.159.157]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031121111607.FDLY20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 06:16:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBDF3F8.53F2DFEA@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 05:16:08 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: new refrigerator References: <20031121030830.44588.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> <231713604.20031120233318@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > I never thought I'd own one, but my friend Susan said that I didn't > want to buy a fridge without a drink station. The 'complications' are > not really, and the convenience is very great. I find my drink station quite convenient. It's just across from the refrigerator. I pull up a handle, and water comes spewing forth into the sink or into a glass catching it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 05:33:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALBXb6q005616 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 05:33:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9E9221E6017A; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 05:26:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60A4C1E6014F for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 05:26:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A53388@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 6:19:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 405134 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 06:19:30 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALBJTl17236 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 06:19:29 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.159.157]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031121111924.FEBN20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 06:19:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBDF4BE.6B212CC2@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 05:19:26 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Londonitis References: <000e01c3af9c$9430f020$e1cadece@0018079268> <6.0.0.22.0.20031121101821.028ae6f8@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen Ore wrote: > > 13:29 20.11.2003 -0600 skrev Doris Markland: > >This is not one of my reading sources, > >but I ran across a reference to this article > >quite by chance this morning and found it > >interesting. > > > >http://tinyurl.com/vuxh > > It may not be one of your reading sources, but I seem to remember sometime last spring when you had a link to a reactionary British newspaper - now a US something. I spot a trend ... But that story is really funny. I'd have to look back at it to find the exact words, but I remember something about anti-war people being part of a "shadowy group" and lots of references to Communism (reminded me of my RRB's constantly calling me a Communist). And then there was the part about the "Watermelons" -- green on the outside, red on the inside. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 05:48:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALBmU6q005778 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 05:48:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4B7001E601A8; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 05:41:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 059D01E6019C for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 05:41:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A533B0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 6:34:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 405414 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 06:34:23 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALBYNl18244 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 06:34:23 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:36:27 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XJP07BZ9; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:36:21 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031121123244.028216e0@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:34:12 +0100 Subject: Re: Londonitis In-Reply-To: <3FBDF4BE.6B212CC2@maynor.net> References: <000e01c3af9c$9430f020$e1cadece@0018079268> <6.0.0.22.0.20031121101821.028ae6f8@localhost> <3FBDF4BE.6B212CC2@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 05:19 21.11.2003 -0600 skrev Natalie Maynor: >Espen Ore wrote: >> >> 13:29 20.11.2003 -0600 skrev Doris Markland: >> >This is not one of my reading sources, >> >but I ran across a reference to this article >> >quite by chance this morning and found it >> >interesting. >> > >> >http://tinyurl.com/vuxh >> >> It may not be one of your reading sources, but I seem to remember sometime last spring when you had a link to a reactionary British newspaper - now a US something. I spot a trend ... > >But that story is really funny. I'd have to look back at it to find the >exact words, but I remember something about anti-war people being part >of a "shadowy group" and lots of references to Communism (reminded me of >my RRB's constantly calling me a Communist). And then there was the >part about the "Watermelons" -- green on the outside, red on the inside. In 1933-45 in Germany people in hamburg were accused of being roastbeef-nazis: brown on the outside and red on the inside. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 05:55:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALBtk6q005828 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 05:55:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 495861E6019C; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 05:48:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CA5F1E60198 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 05:48:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A533A2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 6:41:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 405549 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 06:41:38 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALBfcl18612 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 06:41:38 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-184-130.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.184.130]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hALBfb9u013579 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 05:41:37 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FBDF9A4.70108@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 05:40:20 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD References: <20031120035957.53809.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <3FBD7547.12AD355F@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > >>me. But it was not until my SD said to me that I no longer had a >> > > SD -- Soul Dog? Sense of Deprivation? Secret Dalliant? > > And suddenly I remember something I was going to ask you: Does Maria > get acupuncture? There was a horse on the cover of the UT Alum magazine > that came today, a horse with needles poking into it. I thought it > might be Maria until I noticed that it had on a collar saying something > like Big Boy. While walking from the p.o., I glanced at the article and > learned that the UT horse acupuncturist does lots of acupunction for > and they they like it. I've recently learned how to do some chiropractic stuff on horses. It's not hard to tell that they like it. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 07:22:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALDME6q006672 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 07:22:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2B05E1E60195; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 07:15:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DADEF1E600D7 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 07:15:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5349D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 8:08:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 407739 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:08:06 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALD86l11965 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:08:06 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-209.gwi.net [216.195.150.209]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hALD81Gr092310; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:08:04 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031121080457.00b2d760@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:06:40 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Most Americans have been... In-Reply-To: <20031121090621.GA20209@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031120182139.00b36d08@pop.gwi.net> <20031120112307.48133.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031120182139.00b36d08@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:06 AM 11/21/2003 +0100, steph wrote: >And we want your tourist dollar, however pitiful the thing is >these days. ;--> I remember not too far back how Anne Toal used to cackle about the "Europeso." She's been strangley silent on the issue, lately. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 07:22:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALDMF6q006675 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 07:22:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8810B1E60195; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 07:15:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DAC71E600D7 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 07:15:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5349E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 8:08:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 407744 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:08:07 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALD87l11970 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:08:07 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-209.gwi.net [216.195.150.209]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hALD81Gt092310; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:08:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031121080721.00b3e8a8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:08:02 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: new refrigerator In-Reply-To: <3FBDF3F8.53F2DFEA@maynor.net> References: <20031121030830.44588.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> <231713604.20031120233318@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:16 AM 11/21/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I find my drink station quite convenient. It's just across from the >refrigerator. I pull up a handle, and water comes spewing forth into >the sink or into a glass catching it. Ain't technology wonderful? cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 07:46:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALDk66q006962 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 07:46:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E2B861E60196; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 07:39:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A42BA1E60318 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 07:39:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A535D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 8:31:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 410284 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:31:58 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALDLwl16865 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:21:58 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hALDKuBK005496 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:21:03 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:21:50 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: new refrigerator In-Reply-To: <149557685.20031120232919@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <200311201818.hAKIIOD31319@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FBD50C0.2A6CF118@maynor.net> <129004890.20031120181556@WordWrite.com> <3FBD630E.6E085687@maynor.net> <6104445.20031120193620@WordWrite.com> <3FBD7738.6681BF74@maynor.net> <149557685.20031120232919@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >> She had to keep remembering to throw away bunches of ice to keep the >> thing from clogging up. > >Mine stops when it's full. All the new ones do. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 07:48:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALDmS6q006989 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 07:48:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7337D1E60318; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 07:41:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34F611E60196 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 07:41:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A535D7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 8:34:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 411128 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:34:20 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALDYKl18716 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:34:20 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-209.gwi.net [216.195.150.209]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hALDY5Ax092189; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:34:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031121082925.00b438f8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:30:03 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Londonitis In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.0.20031121101821.028ae6f8@localhost> References: <000e01c3af9c$9430f020$e1cadece@0018079268> <000e01c3af9c$9430f020$e1cadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:19 AM 11/21/2003 +0100, Espen Ore wrote: >13:29 20.11.2003 -0600 skrev Doris Markland: > >This is not one of my reading sources, > >but I ran across a reference to this article > >quite by chance this morning and found it > >interesting. > > > >http://tinyurl.com/vuxh > >It may not be one of your reading sources, but I seem to remember sometime >last spring when you had a link to a reactionary British newspaper - now a >US something. I spot a trend ... I suppose next it will be the Pat Buchanan T-shirt. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 07:54:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALDsL6q007074 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 07:54:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 97E0F1E6031A; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 07:47:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CABF1E60196 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 07:47:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A535F6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 8:40:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 411436 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:40:13 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALDeDl19442 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:40:13 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A53610@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 8:40:13 -0500 Message-Id: <200311211340.hALDeDl19442@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:40:13 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: new refrigerator To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:21:50 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: > >>> She had to keep remembering to throw away bunches of ice to keep the >>> thing from clogging up. >> >>Mine stops when it's full. > >All the new ones do. When I read the review of my fridge, the weakest point was the ice maker. I concur--but it's far less trouble than dealing with ice trays. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 07:54:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALDsM6q007077 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 07:54:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5CC061E6031A; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 07:47:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22F3C1E60196 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 07:47:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A53611@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 8:40:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 410757 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:40:14 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALDUEl17983 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:30:14 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hALDTJBK008320 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:29:19 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:30:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: new refrigerator In-Reply-To: <3FBD8088.37F71CED@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <200311201818.hAKIIOD31319@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FBD50C0.2A6CF118@maynor.net> <129004890.20031120181556@WordWrite.com> <3FBD630E.6E085687@maynor.net> <6104445.20031120193620@WordWrite.com> <3FBD7738.6681BF74@maynor.net> <3FBD8088.37F71CED@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> I love having a filtered water cube/crushed ice and water dispenser. > >Somehow this seems at odds with your talk of moving to convents or >whatever. Why? One should take care of one's health wherever one lives. And having a glass of ice-water is not exactly living it up! Not in East Tennessee, at least. And think of the time I save not having to wrestle with ice cube trays. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 07:54:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALDsd6q007082 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 07:54:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 09F861E60366; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 07:47:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C38911E6031A for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 07:47:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F1771@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 8:40:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 411459 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:40:31 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALDeVl19508 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:40:31 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-209.gwi.net [216.195.150.209]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hALDeTGn097126 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:40:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031121083803.00b2d420@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:40:38 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: new refrigerator In-Reply-To: <17810669465.20031120233017@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031120212442.00bbd480@pop.gwi.net> <200311201818.hAKIIOD31319@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FBD50C0.2A6CF118@maynor.net> <129004890.20031120181556@WordWrite.com> <3FBD630E.6E085687@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031120212442.00bbd480@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I also use ice trays even though we have an ice maker. I hate ice-maker > > ice. > >Why?! --Karen In my limited experience, ice-maker ice tastes bad. Unless you have a high turnover, the ice takes on a refrigerator smell. I also don't like dishwashers for this same reason. The glassware takes on a processed smell. Both of these experiences come from spending Thanksgiving week at our Ohio friends' house in past years. Their glassware stunk and their ice made Scotch and water taste bad. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 07:58:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALDw66q007148 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 07:58:07 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 568DD1E60192; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 07:51:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 105691E6007D for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 07:51:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A53625@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 8:43:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 411627 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:43:58 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALDhwl20058 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:43:58 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F17B5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 8:43:58 -0500 Message-Id: <200311211343.hALDhwl20058@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:43:58 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: new refrigerator To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:40:38 -0500, bonniev wrote: >In my limited experience, ice-maker ice tastes bad. Unless you have a high >turnover, the ice takes on a refrigerator smell. Hm. I know what you mean, but that's not an issue for me. I do use a fair amount of ice, though. Also, I think filtering it helps. My parents' ice maker was like that. >I also don't like >dishwashers for this same reason. The glassware takes on a processed >smell. Both of these experiences come from spending Thanksgiving week at >our Ohio friends' house in past years. Their glassware stunk and their ice >made Scotch and water taste bad. Some of it could be from the quality of the water where they live. Do they smoke? It's funny--I recognize both of these as issues from my parents' house, but I don't think that either my sister or I have these problems. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 07:58:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALDwB6q007153 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 07:58:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 00CB31E60192; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 07:51:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B80A41E6007D for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 07:51:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5360B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 8:44:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 411633 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:44:03 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALDi3l20085 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:44:03 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-209.gwi.net [216.195.150.209]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hALDhtGn097816 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:43:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031121084106.00b86988@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:44:06 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: new refrigerator In-Reply-To: <231713604.20031120233318@WordWrite.com> References: <20031121030830.44588.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> <20031121030830.44588.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >There are all sorts of > > complications like extra water lines, filters, > > jamming, mass production and noise. It's me for ice > > trays still. > >I never thought I'd own one, but my friend Susan said that I didn't >want to buy a fridge without a drink station. The 'complications' are >not really, and the convenience is very great. --Karen I agree that the complications are not really, especially if the house already has a copper water line to the 'frig site. Our house in Oak Ridge already had one. Yet we chose to buy a 'frig without ice maker. Another negative on ice makers is the amount of freezer space they take up -- much, much more than two ice cube trays take. That wouldn't affect me much if I lived alone. But Clyde uses the freezer a lot. We had to buy a separate freezer for this house because the storage in this ice-making 'frig was so minimal. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 08:06:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALE6o6q007266 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:06:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3BE4B1E60196; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:00:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F02AD1E60192 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:00:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5363E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 8:52:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 412197 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:52:42 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALDqgl21965 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:52:42 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-209.gwi.net [216.195.150.209]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hALDqbAr096219 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:52:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031121084814.00b89720@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:52:47 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: new refrigerator In-Reply-To: <200311211343.hALDhwl20058@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Some of it could be from the quality of the water where they live. Do they >smoke? They don't smoke. They have well water. Could be the quality of the water. >It's funny--I recognize both of these as issues from my parents' house, but >I don't think that either my sister or I have these problems. >Karen I did have one experience in my life where it wasn't true. There was a "drink station" in a 'frig door in Atlanta from which I drank many, many glasses of water without ill effect. It was six years ago when I did that croning ceremony for a friend. The other women that weekend slugged down wine at an alarming rate. I drank water. Which reminds me that that same weekend was the last time I rowed in a four, with three Atlanta rowers. It was a very good last row. Remember when I had to choose between going to a convent reunion or rowing in an eight at the Head of the Charles? I chose the reunion and I think it was the right choice. But I never did or will get another chance to row in the Head of the Charles. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 08:11:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALEBM6q007326 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:11:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AB7B61E601D0; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:04:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A0701E60196 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:04:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F1816@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 8:57:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 411832 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:57:14 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALDlEl20903 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:47:14 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hALDkJBK013583 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:46:19 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:47:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: new refrigerator In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031121083803.00b2d420@pop.gwi.net> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031120212442.00bbd480@pop.gwi.net> <200311201818.hAKIIOD31319@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FBD50C0.2A6CF118@maynor.net> <129004890.20031120181556@WordWrite.com> <3FBD630E.6E085687@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031120212442.00bbd480@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031121083803.00b2d420@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, bonniev wrote: >In my limited experience, ice-maker ice tastes bad. Unless you have a high >turnover, the ice takes on a refrigerator smell. I also don't like You need filtered water. It's all that Maine water. >dishwashers for this same reason. The glassware takes on a processed >smell. Both of these experiences come from spending Thanksgiving week at >our Ohio friends' house in past years. Their glassware stunk and their ice >made Scotch and water taste bad. Ohio water. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 08:13:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALEDp6q007354 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:13:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 69C631E601D0; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:07:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F2F31E60196 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:07:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5367C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 8:59:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 412083 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:59:43 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALDnhl21558 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:49:43 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hALDmmBK014335 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:48:48 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:49:42 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: new refrigerator In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031121084106.00b86988@pop.gwi.net> Message-ID: References: <20031121030830.44588.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> <20031121030830.44588.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031121084106.00b86988@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, bonniev wrote: >lived alone. But Clyde uses the freezer a lot. We had to buy a separate >freezer for this house because the storage in this ice-making 'frig was so >minimal. Freezers are a good idea. I will have one eventually - unless I move to a community. I'm certain that the community will have at least one. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 08:22:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALEMT6q007557 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:22:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0421E1E601D0; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:15:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC0961E601CD for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:15:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A536B5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 9:08:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 413402 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:08:21 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALE8Jl24842 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:08:19 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A536C7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 9:08:18 -0500 Message-Id: <200311211408.hALE8Jl24842@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:08:18 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: ER To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:36:48 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Thursday, November 20, 2003, Evelyn Duncan wrote: >> I would miss Paul McCrane on the show; he makes >> Romano a multi-layered character. Romano can be >> a prick; in fact, he often is. But there's an inner >> layer, as if he cared too much once upon a time and >> it turned around and bit him. > >Are you sure you have Asperger's? That is the most amazingly forgiving >thing to say about that turd--I see no evidence of him ever having >cared for anyone or anything other than his own ego. > >Karen Karen, it's a rare day when I disagree with you, but I'm with Evelyn on this one. Romano's first "human" moment was when he operated on his dog; he clearly was in love with Alex Kingston's character; and he does lots of little behind the scenes kind stuff without (apparently) viewers realizing it. It's all very subtle, and he never drops the rules of "don't display weakness" and "don't tolerate disagreement". But I find him a sympathetic, complex character and liked him very much. I think Paul McCrane played the character intelligently and well. If in fact he is under the helicopter when its lifted, I will look forward to whatever he plays next. btw, does anyone see a Moby Dick connection (or Peter Pan crocodile connection) to that helicopter, coming after Romano after getting his arm first? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 08:25:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALEPd6q007569 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:25:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 166401E6031A; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:18:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB56D1E601CD for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:18:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F187D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 9:11:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 413602 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:11:31 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALEBVl25485 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:11:31 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A536DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 9:11:31 -0500 Message-Id: <200311211411.hALEBVl25485@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:11:31 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: new refrigerator To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:44:06 -0500, bonniev wrote: >Another >negative on ice makers is the amount of freezer space they take up -- much, >much more than two ice cube trays take. That wouldn't affect me much if I >lived alone. But Clyde uses the freezer a lot. We had to buy a separate >freezer for this house because the storage in this ice-making 'frig was so >minimal. I find the whole problem of a side-by-side freezer much more of an issue than the total amount of space. My freezer has a lot of door room, too. But there are things I can't buy because they are simply too big for my freezer. I couldn't put a large turkey in there. Or a pizza. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 08:27:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALERc6q007596 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:27:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A536D7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 9:13:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 413711 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:13:03 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALED3l25751 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:13:03 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F1886@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 9:13:03 -0500 Message-Id: <200311211413.hALED3l25751@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:13:03 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: new refrigerator To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:52:47 -0500, bonniev wrote: >Which reminds me that that same weekend was the last time I rowed in a >four, with three Atlanta rowers. It was a very good last row. Remember >when I had to choose between going to a convent reunion or rowing in an >eight at the Head of the Charles? I chose the reunion and I think it was >the right choice. But I never did or will get another chance to row in the >Head of the Charles. Addict From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 08:30:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALEUa6q007605 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:30:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 74CA01E60318; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:23:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 318601E601CD for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:23:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A53714@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 9:16:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 414087 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:16:20 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALEGKl26595 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:16:20 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-209.gwi.net [216.195.150.209]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hALEGHGp004147; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:16:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031121090521.00b53150@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:15:30 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: new refrigerator In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031121084106.00b86988@pop.gwi.net> References: <231713604.20031120233318@WordWrite.com> <20031121030830.44588.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> <20031121030830.44588.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:44 AM 11/21/2003 -0500, bonniev wrote: > We had to buy a separate >freezer for this house because the storage in this ice-making 'frig was so >minimal. The size/usefullness of the side-by side freezer was only one factor in the decision to buy a stand-alone freezer. Not being just two minutes from a good supermarket was also a factor. I grew up having a freezer in the basement and missed the convenience of having one. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 08:37:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALEb56q007667 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:37:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CCA771E60367; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:30:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F7311E60366 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:30:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A53742@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 9:22:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 414519 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:22:57 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALEMvl27585 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:22:57 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A53727@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 9:22:56 -0500 Message-Id: <200311211422.hALEMvl27585@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:22:57 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: ER To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:08:18 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >Karen, it's a rare day when I disagree with you, but I'm with Evelyn on >this one. Romano's first "human" moment was when he operated on his dog; I found that uncomfortable, odd, and un-understandable. >he clearly was in love with Alex Kingston's character; I don't think so. I think there was a strange attraction, but I don't think he can love. (I love how unjudgmental I am!) >and he does lots >of little behind the scenes kind stuff without (apparently) viewers >realizing it. Example? >It's all very subtle, and he never drops the rules of "don't >display weakness" and "don't tolerate disagreement". But I find him a >sympathetic, complex character and liked him very much. Wow. Okay. Not me (as you may have guessed). >btw, does anyone see a Moby Dick connection (or Peter Pan crocodile > connection) to that helicopter, coming after Romano after getting his >arm first? LOL. That hadn't occurred to me (actually, I was on the phone during most of the show, so I didn't really watch it), but I feel quite sure that it is there deliberately. This is funny. (I did tape it, though, so I'll watch it later.) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 08:59:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALExJ6q007899 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:59:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E69D21E60367; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:52:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A83921E60199 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:52:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A537DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 9:45:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 416180 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:45:11 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALEjAl30959 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:45:11 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-209.gwi.net [216.195.150.209]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hALEj4Ar007478 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:45:04 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031121094452.00b91d88@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:45:14 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: new refrigerator In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031121083803.00b2d420@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031120212442.00bbd480@pop.gwi.net> <200311201818.hAKIIOD31319@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FBD50C0.2A6CF118@maynor.net> <129004890.20031120181556@WordWrite.com> <3FBD630E.6E085687@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031120212442.00bbd480@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031121083803.00b2d420@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >In my limited experience, ice-maker ice tastes bad. Unless you have a high > >turnover, the ice takes on a refrigerator smell. I also don't like > >You need filtered water. It's all that Maine water. >Bethany It tastes fine coming out of the faucet. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 09:01:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALF1Q6q007907 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:01:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2A3731E60367; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:54:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF2381E60199 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:54:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F19A2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 9:47:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 416298 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:47:17 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALElHl31240 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:47:17 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hALElBQb027562 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:47:13 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001201c3b03e$65917bc0$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000e01c3af9c$9430f020$e1cadece@0018079268> <6.0.0.22.0.20031121101821.028ae6f8@localhost> Subject: Re: Re: Londonitis Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:47:32 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > It may not be one of your reading sources, but I seem to remember sometime last spring when you had a link to a reactionary British newspaper - now a US something. I spot a trend ... > > Espen Not so, Espen. Someone sent me the first article, and this one I ran across accidentally. The only paper I read routinely is the New York Times. Last night I heard the same general description of the London crowd given in an interview on the TV news. Anyway, would you dispute this piece? Are those thousands in the street in London just disgruntled housewives, punk kids and riffraff raised on a steady tabloid diet? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 09:02:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALF2g6q007912 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:02:42 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 233771E60368; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:55:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC0A71E60199 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:55:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A53819@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 9:48:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 416445 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:48:34 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALEmYl31457 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:48:34 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-209.gwi.net [216.195.150.209]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hALEmTGn010031 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:48:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031121094707.00b86120@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:48:40 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: new refrigerator In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031121090521.00b53150@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031121084106.00b86988@pop.gwi.net> <231713604.20031120233318@WordWrite.com> <20031121030830.44588.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> <20031121030830.44588.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >The size/usefullness of the side-by side freezer was only one factor in the >decision to buy a stand-alone freezer. Not being just two minutes from a >good supermarket was also a factor. I grew up having a freezer in the >basement and missed the convenience of having one. >cwv Did you miss it every day of the first 27 years of our marriage when you didn't even have a basement much less a freezer in it??! bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 09:05:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALF5T6q007950 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:05:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EAD671E60199; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:58:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE1411E6017F for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:58:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A53828@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 9:51:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 416660 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:51:21 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALEpGl31933 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:51:16 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-209.gwi.net [216.195.150.209]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hALEpEAr008613 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:51:15 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031121094942.00b99e48@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:51:25 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Londonitis In-Reply-To: <001201c3b03e$65917bc0$e1cadece@0018079268> References: <000e01c3af9c$9430f020$e1cadece@0018079268> <6.0.0.22.0.20031121101821.028ae6f8@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Anyway, would you dispute this piece? >Are those thousands in the street in London >just disgruntled housewives, punk kids and >riffraff raised on a steady tabloid diet? > - D. M. Would that be vs. people who are sincerely convinced, without undue pressure from outside forces, that the war in Iraq and Afghanistan is wrong, pointless, doing serious harm to both those who wage it and the country in which it is waged, and only fuels terrorism?? bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 09:06:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALF6K6q007963 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:06:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 104741E60199; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:59:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C138B1E6017F for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:59:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A53824@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 9:52:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 416774 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:52:12 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALEqCl32120 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:52:12 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-209.gwi.net [216.195.150.209]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hALEq8At008853; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:52:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031121094949.00b55c58@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:51:47 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: new refrigerator In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031121094707.00b86120@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031121090521.00b53150@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031121084106.00b86988@pop.gwi.net> <231713604.20031120233318@WordWrite.com> <20031121030830.44588.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> <20031121030830.44588.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:48 AM 11/21/2003 -0500, bonniev wrote: >Did you miss it every day of the first 27 years of our marriage when you >didn't even have a basement much less a freezer in it??! Not every day, but when I saw good deals on meat, or was trying to wrestle several containers of soup stock into the small upper freezer, yes, I missed it. Or maybe I did miss it constantly---perhaps that explains my melancholy demeanor. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 09:22:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALFMH6q008087 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:22:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9C4961E60368; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:15:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 612D51E60199 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:15:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F1A8F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:08:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 418560 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:08:09 -0500 Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALF88l03589 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:08:08 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HOP0098PJDKGO@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:08:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.135] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:04:06 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:04:06 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Finally, I like Stephen King To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <6108f648ab.648ab6108f@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: > I am sooo glad that it's finally Thursday again! Does anybody know > about next Thursday? Probably been answered, but Survivor is on Wednesday next week. Did anyone else begin to feel that Rupert had way too much of a sense of by last night's episode? Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 09:30:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALFUf6q008179 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:30:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CEAAD1E6036A; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:23:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DD601E60368 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:23:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A53912@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:16:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 419004 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:16:33 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALFGWl04600 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:16:32 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hALFGSQb028519 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:16:29 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000601c3b042$7c786160$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000e01c3af9c$9430f020$e1cadece@0018079268> <6.0.0.22.0.20031121101821.028ae6f8@localhost> <5.2.1.1.0.20031121094942.00b99e48@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: Re: Londonitis Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:16:49 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Would that be vs. people who are sincerely convinced, without undue > pressure from outside forces, that the war in Iraq and Afghanistan is > wrong, pointless, doing serious harm to both those who wage it and the > country in which it is waged, and only fuels terrorism?? > > > bonnie Quite so. Meanwhile, Brits are today upset after seeing pictures of crummy decorating in the queen's palace. Tupperware at the breakfast table! - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 09:32:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALFWf6q008211 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:32:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A8E231E601C6; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:25:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69FC31E60199 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:25:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5392A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:18:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 419229 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:18:33 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALFIWl04953 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:18:32 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-209.gwi.net [216.195.150.209]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hALFIUAr014206 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:18:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031121101358.00b99e48@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:18:41 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Survivor stuff In-Reply-To: <6108f648ab.648ab6108f@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Probably been answered, but Survivor is on Wednesday next week. Did anyone >else begin to feel that Rupert had way too much of a sense of > by last night's episode? >Marie Yes. I also thought it was rather clueless what he said over the closing credits. It's seldom because people don't like you that they vote you off of Survivor. Sandra sure looked shocked to see the result of the vote. And the coming attractions looked great! It seemed stupid on Rupert's part to go into it counting on winning the million dollars. I had really liked Rupert. But those closing comments made me sad. I wished he had gone on the show for the sheer adventure of it rather than needing the money and wanting to be liked. He'll make some money when he is on the next episode which should be filming now. I wonder if he was on the Early Show this morning. I would think not because he should be taping on some other island. On Survivor All-Star even the first person to get kicked off will get $25,000. Goes up from there. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 09:34:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALFY16q008226 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:34:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 805C51E60368; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:27:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45BAD1E601C6 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:27:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A53926@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:19:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 419279 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:19:52 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALFJql05056 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:19:52 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-209.gwi.net [216.195.150.209]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hALFJoGn014867 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:19:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031121101935.00b86120@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:20:00 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Londonitis In-Reply-To: <000601c3b042$7c786160$e1cadece@0018079268> References: <000e01c3af9c$9430f020$e1cadece@0018079268> <6.0.0.22.0.20031121101821.028ae6f8@localhost> <5.2.1.1.0.20031121094942.00b99e48@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Meanwhile, Brits are today upset after seeing >pictures of crummy decorating in the queen's >palace. Tupperware at the breakfast table! > - D. M. Does this imply that you have a low opinion of what holds the interest of the masses? bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 09:48:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALFmG6q008442 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:48:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CD7CB1E6031B; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:41:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B81E1E601C6 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:41:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A53996@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:34:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 420345 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:34:08 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALFY7l08156 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:34:07 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-209.gwi.net [216.195.150.209]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hALFY2Gp017595; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:34:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031121102259.00b896c0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:23:21 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Londonitis In-Reply-To: <000601c3b042$7c786160$e1cadece@0018079268> References: <000e01c3af9c$9430f020$e1cadece@0018079268> <6.0.0.22.0.20031121101821.028ae6f8@localhost> <5.2.1.1.0.20031121094942.00b99e48@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:16 AM 11/21/2003 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: >Meanwhile, Brits are today upset after seeing >pictures of crummy decorating in the queen's >palace. Tupperware at the breakfast table! How very unseemly. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 09:52:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALFqm6q008475 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:52:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D8B451E6031B; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:45:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 851B71E601D1 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:45:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A539C5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:38:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 420633 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:38:37 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALFcbl08948 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:38:37 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hALFcWQb017384 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:38:33 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000801c3b045$91d20cc0$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000e01c3af9c$9430f020$e1cadece@0018079268> <6.0.0.22.0.20031121101821.028ae6f8@localhost> <5.2.1.1.0.20031121094942.00b99e48@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031121101935.00b86120@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: Re: Londonitis Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:38:53 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Meanwhile, Brits are today upset after seeing > >pictures of crummy decorating in the queen's > >palace. Tupperware at the breakfast table! > > - D. M. > > Does this imply that you have a low opinion of what holds the interest of > the masses? > > > bonnie I don't have an opinion. Am just amused. Poor lady can't win. If she redecorates she has spent too much money. If she doesn't she is a slob. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 10:02:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALG2h6q008535 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:02:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 03DFD1E6031B; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:55:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9524B1E601C6 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:55:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A539F5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:48:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 421354 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:48:34 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALFmXl10817 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:48:33 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hALFmOQb029063 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:48:30 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000801c3b046$f23eb120$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Koolaid Anniversary Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:48:44 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hALG2h6q008535 A day or two ago was the 25th anniversary of the Jim Jones tragedy. Does it seem possible? Where does the time go? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 10:07:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALG7Z6q008605 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:07:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 852071E6031B; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:00:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BA5E1E601C6 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:00:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A53A3D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:53:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 421789 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:53:26 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALFrQl11620 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:53:26 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:55:30 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XJP07DQ6; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:55:26 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031121165156.02891ca8@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:53:17 +0100 Subject: Re: Koolaid Anniversary In-Reply-To: <000801c3b046$f23eb120$e1cadece@0018079268> References: <000801c3b046$f23eb120$e1cadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 09:48 21.11.2003 -0600 skrev Doris Markland: >A day or two ago was the 25th >anniversary of the Jim Jones >tragedy. Does it seem possible? >Where does the time go? Yes, I remember I heard about it on BBC World Service which I was listening to at night while I was cramming for one of my exams in History of Religions - very fitting. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 10:09:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALG9W6q008620 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:09:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0AB351E60372; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:02:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C5231E60370 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:02:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F1C7A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:55:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 421944 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:55:23 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALFtNl12018 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:55:23 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F1C4B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:55:22 -0500 Message-Id: <200311211555.hALFtNl12018@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:55:22 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Koolaid Anniversary To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:48:44 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: >A day or two ago was the 25th >anniversary of the Jim Jones >tragedy. Does it seem possible? I'm still reeling from the 40th anniversary of JFK's assassination. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 10:13:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALGDL6q008664 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:13:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1AA121E60241; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:06:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF98F1E6022F for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:06:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A53A6C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:59:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 422199 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:59:12 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALFxCk12618 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:59:12 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F1C9B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:59:11 -0500 Message-Id: <200311211559.hALFxCk12618@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:59:11 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: The Cat In The Hat To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From a review: "We sat there with Myers We sat through the brawl: Make that cat take a hike, This is no fun at all." Too bad. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 10:32:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALGWx6q008893 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:32:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0885C1E6022F; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:26:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DE0A1E600E3 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:26:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F1D74@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:18:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 424324 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:18:47 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:wTZ0/zAQPzknGYt/UpD9McpaQ9u22Ocv@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALGIk316140 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:18:46 -0500 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 695C5305B1 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:18:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D71B023346 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:18:44 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <6108f648ab.648ab6108f@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Is there consecrated ground for expired kitchen appliances? X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Neal-Stephenson: Paper is a really advanced technology Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:18:38 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Finally, I like Stephen King Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Probably been answered, but Survivor is on Wednesday next week. Did anyone >else begin to feel that Rupert had way too much of a sense of > by last night's episode? > >Marie Editing. He's had too much of a sense of entitlement from the start, but we only saw hints of it until last night. Remember how he kept talking about "*my* spear" and "*my* island" and "*my*" this and that? Rupert play this game with his heart, and that served him pretty well. But in order to actually win this game, you have to play it with your head. Ken Miller Richard Hatch School of Diplomatic Studies From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 11:19:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALHJx6q009549 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:19:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7CD171E60026; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:13:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 420931E60022 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:13:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A53D1D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:05:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 428835 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:05:49 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALH5n325065 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:05:49 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003112117054301100no6t1e>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:05:43 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031121081816.0337c980@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:08:50 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Koolaid Anniversary In-Reply-To: <000801c3b046$f23eb120$e1cadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland writes, >A day or two ago was the 25th anniversary of the Jim Jones tragedy. Leo J. Ryan Memorial Park is part of the architectural centerpiece of Foster City, the community in which we live. It sits across from a striking retail/office complex and contains the largest single portion of our city lagoon system. The rec center and band shell are there, it's where festivals and Fourth of July fireworks are held, etc. http://www.fostercity.org/Services/recreation/18.cfm Ryan was the congressman killed at Jonestown, and on Wednesday there was a memorial service at the park attended by family, friends and colleagues. One of the folks attending was Jackie Speier, who was Ryan's aide at the time of the massacre. She took five bullets then and still carries two in her abdomen. Speier is now the state senator for our district, and fights the good fight. She had another unfortunate encounter with tragedy in 1994; two months into her second, high-risk pregnancy, her husband was killed in a car crash by a driver who ran a red light. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 11:25:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALHPJ6q009621 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:25:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 13EDE1E60045; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:18:29 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B869E1E60022 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:18:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F1F09@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:11:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 429292 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:11:07 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALHB7326110 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:11:07 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hALHB2Qb017447 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:11:04 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000401c3b052$7dae7d20$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000801c3b046$f23eb120$e1cadece@0018079268> <6.0.0.22.0.20031121165156.02891ca8@localhost> Subject: Re: Re: Koolaid Anniversary Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:11:23 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Yes, I remember I heard about it on BBC World Service which I was listening to at night while I was cramming for one of my exams in History of Religions - very fitting. > > Espen Did any of you see Guyana Tragedy with Boothe Powers? Remarkably well done. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 11:30:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALHUU6q009705 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:30:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EA73F1E6004B; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:23:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF9C51E60048 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:23:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A53D86@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:16:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 429638 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:16:20 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALHGK326955 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:16:20 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hALHGFQb009278 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:16:16 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000d01c3b053$380f3240$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031121081816.0337c980@mail.istori.com> Subject: Re: Re: Koolaid Anniversary Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:16:34 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Speier is now the state senator for our district, and fights the good > fight. She had another unfortunate encounter with tragedy in 1994; two > months into her second, high-risk pregnancy, her husband was killed in a > car crash by a driver who ran a red light. > > Pete She has to be an outstanding citizen. Hard to believe one could survive all that with a semblance of sanity, much less a desire to be of service. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 11:34:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALHYR6q009741 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:34:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BD8ED1E600C5; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:27:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E7A91E60087 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:27:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F1F87@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:20:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 430041 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:20:10 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:b46X8ziQjHjJZfvzKSOpUfWYPEv73Ngr@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALHKA327657 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:20:10 -0500 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38E583057C for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:20:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 087FF2334A for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:20:05 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031121101358.00b99e48@pop.gwi.net> References: <6108f648ab.648ab6108f@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Is there consecrated ground for expired kitchen appliances? X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Neal-Stephenson: Paper is a really advanced technology Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:19:54 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Survivor stuff Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 7:18 AM -0800 11/21/03, bonniev wrote: >Yes. I also thought it was rather clueless what he said over the closing >credits. It's seldom because people don't like you that they vote you off >of Survivor. Sandra sure looked shocked to see the result of the >vote. I'm personally inclined to think that her shocked look was as well-acted as her look of dismay when she "accidentally" took Rupert out during the IC. I think she knew that she had an oppertunity to stab Rupert in the back without him realizing it, and she took it. I'll concede that the IC take-out might have been an accident. But Sandra's voting for Jon instead of Darrah was a clear stab against her nominal allies and would have guaranteed Rupert's loss even if Lill hadn't delivered that fifth vote. By the way, I'm sure everyone noticed that this is the first time Jeff showed all the votes instead of letting the non-deciding votes "remain a mystery". JP obviously *wanted* Rupert to know that there five votes against him. >money when he is on the next episode which should be filming now. I wonder >if he was on the Early Show this morning. I would think not because he >should be taping on some other island. >bonnie The Early Show website reports that he was not available "for undisclosed reasons", wink wink nudge nudge. Ken Miller Machiavelli School of Social Science From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 11:52:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALHqv6q009919 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:52:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C3E601E60022; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:46:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 474711E60045 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:46:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A53E49@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:38:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 431557 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:38:47 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALHck330842 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:38:47 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-209.gwi.net [216.195.150.209]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hALHciAr040891 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:38:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031121123832.00b89720@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:38:55 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Survivor stuff In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031121101358.00b99e48@pop.gwi.net> <6108f648ab.648ab6108f@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >The Early Show website reports that he was not available "for undisclosed >reasons", wink wink nudge nudge. >Ken Miller >Machiavelli School of Social Science Thanks. I tried to find that out and couldn't. I'm glad I slept in. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 11:53:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALHro6q009932 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:53:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D58F51E60022; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:46:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 528401E60045 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:46:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A53E3C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:39:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 431625 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:39:40 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALHdd330985 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:39:40 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2003112117393201400ourepe>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:39:33 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031121093310.022bfc50@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:42:40 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Koolaid Anniversary In-Reply-To: <000d01c3b053$380f3240$e1cadece@0018079268> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031121081816.0337c980@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland writes, >She has to be an outstanding citizen. A good way to put it. She projects positivism and can-do attitude. Happily, she re-married two years ago. And Erin Ryan, one of the congressman's daughters, has been a legislative aide to Speier for the last three years. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 12:08:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALI8l6q010110 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:08:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C6F471E600C0; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:01:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 518A81E60087 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:01:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A53EF2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:54:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 432994 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:54:37 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALHsX301162 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:54:37 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:54:24 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B777EB@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Koolaid Anniversary Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:54:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Doris Markland [mailto:dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM] > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 10:49 AM > A day or two ago was the 25th > anniversary of the Jim Jones > tragedy. Does it seem possible? > Where does the time go? Tuesday, the 18th (http://www.indystar.com/articles/8/093227-3528-021.html). Jim Jones had a storefront church in downtown Indianapolis. Because it's sweeps[1], one of the tv stations dug up someone (local to Indy) who wouldn't drink, was shot five times, but managed to survive. [1] I love sweeps. Stations stop at almost nothing during the remainder of the year ("If it bleeds, it leads."). During sweeps, they stop at nothing ("They're not bleeding? Make them bleed."). The same tv station started researching cold case files (ala the tv shows, both on Discovery channel and CBS) and showing "updates" except none of the information was new - it was merely a recap of each story from 15-20-25 years ago. There was a fast-food robbery from roughly the same time as the Jim Jones massacre which had no information aside from what was published in the newspapers for several weeks after the crime. Except...a cop who has since retired and swears he knows who it is but refuses to divulge the information. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 14:58:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALKwX6q011951 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 14:58:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 38A5F1E601B1; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 14:51:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3D9E1E601AF for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 14:51:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5447B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:44:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 446183 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:44:21 -0500 Received: from mail1.murraystate.edu (mail.murraystate.edu [216.249.159.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hALKiF328698 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:44:16 -0500 Received: from trioets89712 (216.249.149.232) by mail1.murraystate.edu (7.0.008) id 3F5503F1004CBC34 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 14:42:50 -0600 Message-ID: <00a701c3b06f$c3e614c0$e895f9d8@msunet2k.edu> From: "Amy Burns Short" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: Re: Koolaid Anniversary Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 14:40:56 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Ryan was the congressman killed at Jonestown, and on Wednesday there was a >memorial service at the park attended by family, friends and >colleagues. One of the folks attending was Jackie Speier, who was Ryan's >aide at the time of the massacre. She took five bullets then and still >carries two in her abdomen. ... and the twin-engine Otter on which Ryan and party attempted to leave Guyana wound up as the property of Four Star Air Cargo in St. Thomas (where my first husband worked), patched bullet holes and all. AS From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 15:18:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALLIZ6q012309 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:18:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BDC731E601DF; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:11:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 723D51E601D5 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:11:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5451D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:04:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 447642 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:04:24 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALL4O331684 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:04:24 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:04:18 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B777F3@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Survivor stuff Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:04:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: bonniev [mailto:bonniev@GWI.NET] > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 10:19 AM > >Probably been answered, but Survivor is on Wednesday next > week. Did anyone > >else begin to feel that Rupert had way too much of a sense of > > by last night's episode? This is a short article from today's Indianapolis Star about Rupert: http://www.indystar.com/articles/4/094865-7334-010.html - it was at the top of today's front page - one of those little teasers. > Yes. I also thought it was rather clueless what he said over > the closing > credits. It's seldom because people don't like you that they > vote you off > of Survivor. Sandra sure looked shocked to see the result of the > vote. And the coming attractions looked great! I missed it - I was at a geek meeting with some friends, listening to Microsoft espousing some of their new products (zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz) > It seemed stupid on Rupert's part to go into it counting on > winning the > million dollars. I had really liked Rupert. But those > closing comments > made me sad. I wished he had gone on the show for the sheer > adventure of > it rather than needing the money and wanting to be liked. > He'll make some > money when he is on the next episode which should be filming > now. I wonder > if he was on the Early Show this morning. I would think not > because he > should be taping on some other island. IIRC, they're well into the production process (if not already finished). Word has it three or four of the people they extended offers to declined. > On Survivor All-Star even the first person to get kicked off will get > $25,000. Goes up from there. This is a tenfold increase from what the first person normally gets. I don't remember seeing them making a point of telling us this before. It makes one wonder if everyone gets a slice of the pie or just the first one. Several series ago, I remember one of them in the reunion show broke down in tears because they voted her off without knowing anything about her. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 16:22:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALMMK6q013178 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:22:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B97D21E601E5; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:15:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85C911E601DE for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:15:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A54738@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:08:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 452531 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:08:08 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALM88309069 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:08:08 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-209.gwi.net [216.195.150.209]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hALM86Gn081151 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:08:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031121170649.00b9edd0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:08:17 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Survivor stuff In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B777F3@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I missed it - I was at a geek meeting with some friends, listening to >Microsoft espousing some of their new products (zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz) You don't have a VCR? Or Tivo? >Word has it three or four of the people they extended offers to declined. Interesting. >I don't remember seeing them making a point of telling us this before. It >makes one wonder if everyone gets a slice of the pie or just the first one. I didn't realize it before either. But I just assume that each one gets something, starting at $2500 for the first off. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 16:34:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALMYX6q013387 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:34:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5C1FB1E601BD; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:27:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 243B61E601BC for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:27:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5478A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:20:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 453363 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:20:21 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALMKL310745 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:20:21 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.170.123]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031121222016.YZES2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:20:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBE8FA1.D7723A62@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:20:17 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: new refrigerator References: <200311201818.hAKIIOD31319@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FBD50C0.2A6CF118@maynor.net> <129004890.20031120181556@WordWrite.com> <3FBD630E.6E085687@maynor.net> <6104445.20031120193620@WordWrite.com> <3FBD7738.6681BF74@maynor.net> <3FBD8088.37F71CED@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >> I love having a filtered water cube/crushed ice and water dispenser. > > > >Somehow this seems at odds with your talk of moving to convents or > >whatever. > > Why? I know little of convents, but I've always imagined them as not being into -- of not being big on techy gadgets. > One should take care of one's health wherever one lives. And having a > glass of ice-water is not exactly living it up! Not in East Tennessee, at Health? What do ice cubes have to do with health? I thought they were just frozen water. Is frozen water better for you than non-frozen water? (I drink lots of water but not much frozen water.) > least. And think of the time I save not having to wrestle with ice cube > trays. I dunno. I wrestle with ice trays only when I'm about to have a party. I don't have occasion to think about ice otherwise. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 16:44:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALMit6q013475 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:44:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6A8001E601BD; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:38:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 349601E601BC for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:38:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F2952@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:30:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 454010 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:30:43 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALMUg311900 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:30:43 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.170.123]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031121223037.BAFX1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:30:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBE920E.933AF843@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:30:38 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Londonitis References: <000e01c3af9c$9430f020$e1cadece@0018079268> <6.0.0.22.0.20031121101821.028ae6f8@localhost> <001201c3b03e$65917bc0$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > Anyway, would you dispute this piece? > Are those thousands in the street in London > just disgruntled housewives, punk kids and > riffraff raised on a steady tabloid diet? I fear that there is much I am behind in in the news. I had read that there were lots of anti-war activists in the streets, just as had been expected, but I didn't read anything (other than your article) to suggest that they were whatever all those funny adjectives were -- I can't remember the details now except that Communist was frequently mentioned and something about being pro-Taliban. Everything else I've read on the subject has simply said that they are anti-war, anti-imperialism, etc. Iow, people like me. I'm not sure what you mean about disgruntled housewives, punk kids, and riffraff. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 16:56:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALMuq6q013556 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:56:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7F6C31E601E5; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:49:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 452821E601DF for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:49:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A54837@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:42:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 454978 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:42:40 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALMge313479 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:42:40 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.170.123]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031121224235.NNXC1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:42:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBE94DC.B9ED72C9@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:42:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Finally, I like Stephen King References: <6108f648ab.648ab6108f@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > > Natalie: > > I am sooo glad that it's finally Thursday again! Does anybody know > > about next Thursday? > > Probably been answered, but Survivor is on Wednesday next week. Thanks! Nobody had in fact answered. I am excited that I have to wait less than a full week this time. > Did anyone else begin to feel that Rupert had way too much of a sense of by last night's episode? Yes. After having liked him enormously for a long time, I was surprised to find myself ready to be rid of him. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 16:57:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALMvY6q013560 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:57:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9C1F51E601DF; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:50:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 697EA1E601C0 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:50:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A54862@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:43:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 455108 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:43:22 -0500 Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALMhM313561 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:43:22 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.14e.26d69505 (4394) for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:43:12 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <14e.26d69505.2cefef00@aol.com> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:43:12 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] ER To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU If you want to see a character without any redeeming value, watch Buffy to see principal Snyder. But Armin Shimerman is always a delight to watch: as Snyder, as Quark on Deep Space 9, and as Pascal on Beauty and the Beast (I'd love to see that show again). Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 16:58:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALMwS6q013564 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:58:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CBCE51E601C0; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:51:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BDCD1E601BB for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:51:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5485E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:44:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 455297 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:44:16 -0500 Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALMiG313684 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:44:16 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1c4.11ff3387 (4394) for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:44:09 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1c4.11ff3387.2cefef39@aol.com> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:44:09 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] ER To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/21/2003 12:26:27 AM Central Standard Time, Karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: << Are you sure you have Asperger's? >> It's the only diagnosis that fits the symptoms. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 17:01:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALN1s6q013628 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:01:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C26BD1E601C0; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:55:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DBE21E601BD for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:55:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F2A3D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:47:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 456033 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:47:42 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALMlf314217 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:47:41 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.170.123]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031121224736.NPXC1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:47:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBE9609.6C035A69@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:47:37 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Finally, I like Stephen King References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bookrat wrote: > Editing. He's had too much of a sense of entitlement from the start, but > we only saw hints of it until last night. Remember how he kept talking > about "*my* spear" and "*my* island" and "*my*" this and that? Good point. The editing is interesting. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 17:21:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALNLs6q013974 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:21:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0E3E11E601BD; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:15:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D151E1E601BB for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:15:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A54A2B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:07:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 458792 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:07:42 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALN7f317332 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:07:41 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.170.123]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031121230736.KGNI14203.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:07:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBE9AB9.CC1E6860@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:07:37 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Koolaid Anniversary References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031121081816.0337c980@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > her husband was killed in a > car crash by a driver who ran a red light. Speaking of which, how long do the police usually keep a car impounded when investigating an accident? Iow, how long do such investigations usually take? I bet Lynne knows. The person in our department who was in the bad wreck Wednesday (and is still alive, though not yet conscious) had a set of papers and her gradebook with her in the car. Her daughter tried to retrieve them to give them to us, but the police said that nobody could touch anything in the car yet -- that it's roped off wherever it is and is sort of like a crime scene. I feel sure that they would get the papers and gradebook for us, though. Iow, I'm not really worried about that. I just thought about something. That wreck was not in Starkville. It was at the intersection of a campus road and Hwy 82 outside of the Starkville city limits. So I'm not sure who has the car impounded. Or at least I think the city limits aren't out that far. I can't remember where the city-limit sign is. Many of us have found ourselves dwelling upon odd little details like this (the gradebook, of course, is crucial -- it's not just an odd little detail -- I mean things like where the car is, etc. etc.) because of what I think is a sort of psychological defense mechanism of some kind -- something that keeps us from dwelling constantly on the fact that this colleague is lying there in intensive care in Tupelo just barely alive. I remember being on her thesis committee when she got her M.A. here many years ago. That seems like not long ago at all in ways. She is one of only two Instructors in the department. We had five or six, but several have recently retired or moved in recent years. ... I just looked back at the newspaper story and saw that the Starkville police are in charge, so maybe the city limits are out that far: http://www.starkvilledailynews.com/articles/2003/11/21/news/news02.txt Sorry for the rambling. Although Linda isn't a close friend of mine, she is somebody I've known for many years now, and I, along with many of us, are feeling kind of spaced out. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 17:37:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALNbc6q014090 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:37:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 092731E601C9; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:30:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81AC1E601BB for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:30:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F2C04@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:23:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 459731 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:23:25 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALNNP319174 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:23:25 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.170.123]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031121232320.ZCDT11940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:23:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBE9E69.A944D53B@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:23:21 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: new refrigerator References: <200311201818.hAKIIOD31319@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FBD50C0.2A6CF118@maynor.net> <129004890.20031120181556@WordWrite.com> <3FBD630E.6E085687@maynor.net> <6104445.20031120193620@WordWrite.com> <3FBD7738.6681BF74@maynor.net> <3FBD8088.37F71CED@maynor.net> <3FBE8FA1.D7723A62@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > I know little of convents, but I've always imagined them as not being ^^^ Delete that not -- I changed sentence in midstream and screwed it up. > into -- of not being big on techy gadgets. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 17:57:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALNvu6q014389 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:57:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1F9A71E601EC; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:51:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2C2C1E601E5 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:51:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A54AD9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:43:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 460419 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:43:44 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALNhh320794 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:43:44 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hALNhbQb006038 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:43:40 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001a01c3b089$547b9820$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000e01c3af9c$9430f020$e1cadece@0018079268> <6.0.0.22.0.20031121101821.028ae6f8@localhost> <001201c3b03e$65917bc0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FBE920E.933AF843@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Londonitis Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:43:55 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > mentioned and something about being pro-Taliban. Everything else I've > read on the subject has simply said that they are anti-war, > anti-imperialism, etc. Iow, people like me. I'm not sure what you mean > about disgruntled housewives, punk kids, and riffraff. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Of course there are people out there because they have specific thoughtful opinions and have a cause. By comparison I was throwing in some who maybe just want some excitement, have a beef in general about the world, or have nothing better to do, etc. When I have heard interviews on the street asking people's opinions (in the UK, but here as well) I am amazed at how dumb some of these people are who are calling others dumb. Anyway, of interest is not so much who is in the street but who is organizing them, if so. Interestingly there were not nearly so many people in this crowd as they early-on kept reporting. I wonder how they count them. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 17:58:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hALNwY6q014394 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:58:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4C48A1E601EC; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:51:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B9411E601E5 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:51:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A54AC2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:44:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 460449 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:44:22 -0500 Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com (imo-r06.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.102]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALNiM320855 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:44:22 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.4b.36e15670 (3988) for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:44:15 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <4b.36e15670.2ceffd4f@aol.com> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:44:15 EST Subject: Re: Most Americans have been... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/21/2003 3:07:48 AM, stevie@MULTINIX.COM writes: >And we want your tourist dollar, however pitiful the thing is >these days. > --------- I forgot about THAT factor, thanks for reminding me! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 18:13:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAM0Dk6q014548 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:13:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 06A041E601EF; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:06:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C75EB1E601EC for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:06:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A54B18@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:59:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 461017 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:59:34 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hALNxX322165 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:59:33 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.170.123]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031121235928.GGG2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:59:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBEA6E1.C1F6A25@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:59:29 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Londonitis References: <000e01c3af9c$9430f020$e1cadece@0018079268> <6.0.0.22.0.20031121101821.028ae6f8@localhost> <001201c3b03e$65917bc0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FBE920E.933AF843@maynor.net> <001a01c3b089$547b9820$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > Of course there are people out there because > they have specific thoughtful opinions and > have a cause. By comparison I was throwing in some who maybe just want > some excitement, have a beef in general about the > world, or have nothing better to do, etc. In my limited experience with rallies/protests I have never encountered anybody who struck me as doing it for excitement, general beefing, or nothing better to do. No doubt there are a handful of such people in a large city -- as in people who might do something like that for such reasons. But I can't imagine that they are many. > When I have heard interviews on the street > asking people's opinions (in the UK, but here as well) I am amazed at > how dumb some of these people are who are calling others dumb. Yes. Interviews on the street often fascinate me in that way. I think I've mentioned before that at times the thought hops into my mind that people should be required to take a test before being allowed to vote since I am convinced that a very large percent of the voters don't know shit about what's going on in the world or the people they're voting for. But then I remember the old literacy tests and think about the various problems with testing potential voters (as in who would grade the tests and with what biases), etc. etc. Iow, I am *NOT* saying that I am for such testing. But I do feel quite frustrated and annoyed at rampant ignorance. > Anyway, > of interest is not so much > who is in the street but who is organizing them, if so. I don't know, though it could probably be easily found out. There were no doubt announcements in various places about planned protests, though in a case like this I would assume that quite a few protesters would show up anyway -- as in not needing any particular protest announcement. This particular situation was a clear time to protest. Protests I've known about in Mississippi have been organized by various groups. Our peace rallies/marches in Starkville had to have organizers since they had to be planned for a particular day -- iow, they weren't tied to the arrival of a person in town or whatever. The primary organizational group in our rallies was the local Green Party, though there were large numbers of non-Greens participating. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 18:29:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAM0Tw6q014674 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:29:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 08F251E601F0; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:23:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFAEC1E6013E for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:23:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A54B60@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:15:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 461679 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:15:36 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAM0Fa323592 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:15:36 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:15:30 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B777F7@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Survivor stuff Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:15:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: bonniev [mailto:bonniev@GWI.NET] > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 5:08 PM > >I missed it - I was at a geek meeting with some friends, listening to > >Microsoft espousing some of their new products > (zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz) > You don't have a VCR? Or Tivo? I actually own four (when I have problems with one, I buy a new one then go back and fix the other one when it's not needed). I also have a PC with an ATI All-in-Wonder 9800 Pro graphics card which you can connect a coax cable cord and it can record digitally (it can also do a bunch of other graphics-related things, including broadcasting back out on TVs). With 1.2TB of disk space on my PC, it can record a *lot* (I don't use all of that space for tv stuff). No Tivo. Just ReplayTV. SonicBlue is a sister company, all under DNNA( http://www.digitalnetworksna.com), which is the Denon & Marantz North American holding company. When that took place, we were offered ReplayTV with some special features added and others which will be left in. I don't know about Tivos but ReplayTVs can link up automagically [sic] so you can schedule one and it'll distribute the workload to the others - I think the limit is six. My problem is that two or three times a month I'll find five or six programs on at the same time - not necessarily standard network shows but the nice cable shows - PBS + Discovery + A&E + History + ... and rather than record all of them, I usually record one, watch one, and hope the others repeat when I notice it. The nice thing about the ATI graphics card is I get a lifetime connection to GemStar's (owner of TV Guide) data so I suppose I could write some code which would look ahead a few weeks and figure out how to schedule all of them without overlaps. > >Word has it three or four of the people they extended offers > to declined. > > Interesting. Unfortunately, they didn't say who these people are. They have said there are eighteen instead of the initial sixteen. I can understand Colby, Richard Hatch, Jerri ("The Blue Bikini" as she was described by Survivor PR), Rupert, etc. Although Tina won, I don't know I'd consider her to be "an interesting party" as she basically stepped back and let everyone kill each other off, then was a leftover at the end. > >I don't remember seeing them making a point of telling us > this before. It > >makes one wonder if everyone gets a slice of the pie or just > the first one. > I didn't realize it before either. But I just assume that > each one gets > something, starting at $2500 for the first off. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 18:31:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAM0V16q014680 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:31:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 919CC1E601FE; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:24:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DDF31E601FD for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:24:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A54B65@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:16:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 461725 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:16:49 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAM0Gn323711 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:16:49 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:16:44 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B777F8@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: new refrigerator Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:16:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 5:20 PM > Health? What do ice cubes have to do with health? I thought > they were > just frozen water. Is frozen water better for you than non-frozen > water? (I drink lots of water but not much frozen water.) I think the only true difference is if you were to thaw ice cubes and drink the water, it tastes flat - I think any excess oxygen which is mixed in has been removed, just as it happens with boiling water. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 18:34:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAM0Yp6q014714 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:34:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F23AE1E601F4; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:27:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDBF51E601F0 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:27:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A54B69@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:20:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 461875 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:20:39 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAM0Kc324025 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:20:38 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:20:33 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B777F9@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Londonitis Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:20:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 5:31 PM > Doris Markland wrote: > > > Anyway, would you dispute this piece? > > Are those thousands in the street in London > > just disgruntled housewives, punk kids and > > riffraff raised on a steady tabloid diet? > > I fear that there is much I am behind in in the news. I had read that > there were lots of anti-war activists in the streets, just as had been > expected, but I didn't read anything (other than your article) to > suggest that they were whatever all those funny adjectives were -- I > can't remember the details now except that Communist was frequently > mentioned and something about being pro-Taliban. Everything else I've > read on the subject has simply said that they are anti-war, > anti-imperialism, etc. Iow, people like me. I'm not sure > what you mean > about disgruntled housewives, punk kids, and riffraff. There was a story on ABC (? I thought I heard it on the radio in the car - the local ABC affiliate broadcasts on 87.7FM). There was a footman who quit about the time the Bushes were landing. He'd obtained the job about two months prior and basically had an open season on the castle. He had pictures of himself standing on the stairs headed to the Queen's quarters, ditto for Charles, etc. He also was the one (according to him) who put the mints on the Bush bed. He quit because he was a reporter and he had to rush out to write a fifteen page story as an insider about everything he had access to as well as an "insider's perspective" of what was going on in preparation for the visit. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 18:36:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAM0at6q014727 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:36:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A0A6E1E601FD; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:30:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 701FB1E601F4 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:30:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A54B64@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:22:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 461973 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:22:42 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAM0Mg324260 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:22:42 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:22:37 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B777FA@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: new refrigerator Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:22:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 6:23 PM > Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > I know little of convents, but I've always imagined them as > not being > ^^^ > Delete that not -- I changed sentence in midstream and screwed it > up. > > > into -- of not being big on techy gadgets. Convents? Isn't that where they say, "Ladies....lights out at ten, candles out at eleven." From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 18:42:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAM0gI6q014783 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:42:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C03421E601F4; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:35:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B0E61E601F0 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:35:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A54B8D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:28:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 462099 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:28:05 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAM0S5324690 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:28:05 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.170.123]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031122002800.CJKK1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:28:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBEAD91.52379A3E@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:28:01 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: It's Time Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It's time for y'all to get in gear and help me come up with an appropriate invocation for the ARF banquet. I haven't given it much thought, telling myself I would wait until Thanksgiving holidays. That's now -- our first-ever week-long Tgiving holiday. I have lots of plans for the week, possibly including an attempt to paint this room. But I have to come up with an invocation because, even though the banquet is not until December 9, I'm going to be totally snowed under that first week in December and have been thinking that I would love to go to the crafts fair/sale in Jackson the Saturday before the 9th -- I guess that must be the 6th since the banquet is on a Tuesday (though probably I can't do that since that's when I'll need to be screwing around with decorations for the ARF banquet). Ok, so what I would like to find is something like a decently written, though not necessarily intellectually , poem exuding -- something that can fit with "The Christmas Spirit" without being specific to xtianity. A Jewish friend of mine e-mailed me several invocations he had done -- one for MSU graduation, one for MLK Day breakfast, one for the Democratic Party's Greens & Beans dinners. They started with quotations from the Talmud that fit with the points of those three occasions and then added a few words on those points. I'm also still thinking that it would be nice to find something from American Indian lore/ritual. Or maybe I should just sit here and think about it at some point and come up with my own words. That seems kind of , though. All suggestions will be appreciated. (It won't be a bow-your-head prayer, btw. And I don't want it to be merely a "let's observe a moment of silence.") -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 18:45:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAM0jv6q014806 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:45:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 01F2F1E601F4; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:39:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCDF71E601F0 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:39:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A54B89@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:31:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 462137 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:31:44 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAM0Vi324826 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:31:44 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.170.123]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031122003139.CKND1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:31:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBEAE6C.69355DCB@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:31:40 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Londonitis References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B777F9@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > He quit because he was a reporter and he had to rush > out to write a fifteen page story as an insider about everything he had > access to as well as an "insider's perspective" of what was going on in > preparation for the visit. Yes, the story of the reporter who sneaked in has been quite well publicized. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 18:59:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAM0xS6q014922 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:59:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 04EFB1E601FF; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:52:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C89AC1E601FE for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:52:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A54BB6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:45:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 462468 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:45:16 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAM0jA325757 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:45:15 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAM0ijl6012269 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:44:47 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:46:20 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1975441115.20031121184620@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: ER In-Reply-To: <14e.26d69505.2cefef00@aol.com> References: <14e.26d69505.2cefef00@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 21, 2003, Evelyn Duncan wrote: > If you want to see a character without any redeeming value, watch > Buffy to see principal Snyder. Sorry, nothing could induce me to watch that show. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 19:04:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAM14G6q014998 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:04:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8C3581E60206; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:57:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BFC11E6011B for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:57:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A54BEC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:50:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 462943 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:50:03 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAM0o3326342 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:50:03 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAM0o38b009381 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:50:03 -0500 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.104]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAM0o0fC024038 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:50:01 -0500 Message-ID: <013d01c3b092$90345b50$687a8083@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3FBEAD91.52379A3E@maynor.net> Subject: Re: It's Time Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:48:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 'Veterans, Natalie... express to the ARF minions ours and your appreciation, and theirs expected, for the thousands of individual soldiers and entire families whom sacrifice hourly for our peace and quiet at home here. Thank you for your reverence... 'Wickedly grateful, Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" To: Sent: Friday, 21 November, 2003 7:28 PM Subject: It's Time > It's time for y'all to get in gear and help me come up with an > appropriate invocation for the ARF banquet. I haven't given it much > thought, telling myself I would wait until Thanksgiving holidays. > That's now -- our first-ever week-long Tgiving holiday. I have lots of > plans for the week, possibly including an attempt to paint this room. > But I have to come up with an invocation because, even though the > banquet is not until December 9, I'm going to be totally snowed under > that first week in December and have been thinking that I would love to > go to the crafts fair/sale in Jackson the Saturday before the 9th -- I > guess that must be the 6th since the banquet is on a Tuesday (though > probably I can't do that since that's when I'll need to be screwing > around with decorations for the ARF banquet). > > Ok, so what I would like to find is something like a decently written, > though not necessarily intellectually , poem exuding will> -- something that can fit with "The Christmas Spirit" without > being specific to xtianity. A Jewish friend of mine e-mailed me several > invocations he had done -- one for MSU graduation, one for MLK Day > breakfast, one for the Democratic Party's Greens & Beans dinners. They > started with quotations from the Talmud that fit with the points of > those three occasions and then added a few words on those points. I'm > also still thinking that it would be nice to find something from > American Indian lore/ritual. Or maybe I should just sit here and think > about it at some point and come up with my own words. That seems kind > of , though. > > All suggestions will be appreciated. (It won't be a bow-your-head > prayer, btw. And I don't want it to be merely a "let's observe a moment > of silence.") > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 19:42:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAM1gi6q015501 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:42:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8E2AB1E60251; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:35:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E7E61E6016A for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:35:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A54C52@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:28:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 463728 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:28:31 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAM1IV328172 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:18:31 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAM1HYm9002207 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:17:36 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:18:29 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: new refrigerator In-Reply-To: <3FBE8FA1.D7723A62@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <200311201818.hAKIIOD31319@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FBD50C0.2A6CF118@maynor.net> <129004890.20031120181556@WordWrite.com> <3FBD630E.6E085687@maynor.net> <6104445.20031120193620@WordWrite.com> <3FBD7738.6681BF74@maynor.net> <3FBD8088.37F71CED@maynor.net> <3FBE8FA1.D7723A62@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I know little of convents, but I've always imagined them as not being >into -- of not being big on techy gadgets. ??? >Health? What do ice cubes have to do with health? I thought they were >just frozen water. Is frozen water better for you than non-frozen >water? (I drink lots of water but not much frozen water.) Depends on the temp. (And the condition of my knee.) But the filter makes more of a difference. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 19:48:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAM1mp6q015525 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:48:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8B5091E60251; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:41:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AABA1E6016A for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:41:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A54C58@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:34:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 464129 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:34:38 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAM1Yc329235 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:34:38 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.170.123]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031122013433.SCFO20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:34:33 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBEBD2A.E72225B@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:34:34 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <3FBEAD91.52379A3E@maynor.net> <013d01c3b092$90345b50$687a8083@awild4dj8f> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alan Wild wrote: > > 'Veterans, Natalie... express to the ARF minions ours and your appreciation, > and theirs expected, for the thousands of individual soldiers and entire > families whom sacrifice hourly for our peace and quiet at home here. Veterans? Many of the ARFers are veterans. Some are WWII veterans, which might make your comment about how sacrificed for peace and quiet at home make a modicum of sense. But there are also veterans of later wars, which in no way helped our peace and quiet at home, though that was certainly not the fault of those soldiers or their families. I think everybody appreciates greatly that soldiers and their families are willing to make the sacrifices they do to serve their country. When they enter the military, they commit themselves to following orders. They don't make the decisions of when/where/why to fight. They fight insane wars because that is what they are committed to do. There was a good write-up in the Starkville Daily News on Veterans Day about a Vietnam veteran who is now Dean of Students at MSU. I thought he did an excellent job in explaining what a soldier does vs what he might think about a particular war. He also said that he thought the stories of bad treatment of Vietnam veterans was greatly exaggerated -- that he found nothing but thanks and good will from everybody upon his return, even though many of these people were very much against the war. I think that's a normal attitude. It reminds me of a young National Guardsman on an elevator in the motel in Jackson on my trip in late October. A couple I didn't know and I were on the elevator when he got on in his uniform. We asked him what he was doing -- like what military service. He said that he was National Guard and had just returned from Afghanistan. We all told him how much we appreciated him. He got off, and the door closed, and the woman who had just been saying that to him said then, "But I am so very much against this ridiculous war." I smiled and said something about how good it was to bump into like-minded people, and she replied, "We are myriad." This was a Republicanish-looking couple, btw -- dressed in expensive clothes, looking as if they'd just stepped off of a golf course, etc. But I digress. The point is that I can't quite see how talking about veterans fits a holiday banquet and my desire for something goodwillish. Bringing up soldiers brings up Dubya's absurd war, which I'm sure 99% of the people present are unhappy about. I want something , not something for this occasion. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 20:01:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAM2136q015636 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:01:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5D4521E60251; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:54:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 270351E60193 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:54:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A54C6E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:46:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 464262 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:46:50 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAM1kN329724 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:46:23 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAM1kM8b011618 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:46:22 -0500 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.104]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAM1kKfC030646 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:46:21 -0500 Message-ID: <016401c3b09a$6ea9a690$687a8083@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3FBEAD91.52379A3E@maynor.net> <013d01c3b092$90345b50$687a8083@awild4dj8f> <3FBEBD2A.E72225B@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: It's Time Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:46:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU oh gosh... reverence is not stale, ever. I'm sorry to have offered. What ever happened to reverence to women and men offering their lives and fortunes for our collective peace and tranquility, so be it? I guess we simply treat it like the check-out line in the local market. fuck that fuckin shit... 'Alan "Tab!" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" To: Sent: Friday, 21 November, 2003 8:34 PM Subject: Re: It's Time > Alan Wild wrote: > > > > 'Veterans, Natalie... express to the ARF minions ours and your appreciation, > > and theirs expected, for the thousands of individual soldiers and entire > > families whom sacrifice hourly for our peace and quiet at home here. > > Veterans? Many of the ARFers are veterans. Some are WWII veterans, > which might make your comment about how sacrificed for peace and > quiet at home make a modicum of sense. But there are also veterans of > later wars, which in no way helped our peace and quiet at home, though > that was certainly not the fault of those soldiers or their families. I > think everybody appreciates greatly that soldiers and their families are > willing to make the sacrifices they do to serve their country. When > they enter the military, they commit themselves to following orders. > They don't make the decisions of when/where/why to fight. They fight > insane wars because that is what they are committed to do. > > There was a good write-up in the Starkville Daily News on Veterans Day > about a Vietnam veteran who is now Dean of Students at MSU. I thought > he did an excellent job in explaining what a soldier does vs what he > might think about a particular war. He also said that he thought the > stories of bad treatment of Vietnam veterans was greatly exaggerated -- > that he found nothing but thanks and good will from everybody upon his > return, even though many of these people were very much against the > war. I think that's a normal attitude. It reminds me of a young > National Guardsman on an elevator in the motel in Jackson on my trip in > late October. A couple I didn't know and I were on the elevator when he > got on in his uniform. We asked him what he was doing -- like what > military service. He said that he was National Guard and had just > returned from Afghanistan. We all told him how much we appreciated > him. He got off, and the door closed, and the woman who had just been > saying that to him said then, "But I am so very much against this > ridiculous war." I smiled and said something about how good it was to > bump into like-minded people, and she replied, "We are myriad." This > was a Republicanish-looking couple, btw -- dressed in expensive clothes, > looking as if they'd just stepped off of a golf course, etc. > > But I digress. The point is that I can't quite see how talking about > veterans fits a holiday banquet and my desire for something > goodwillish. Bringing up soldiers brings up Dubya's absurd war, which > I'm sure 99% of the people present are unhappy about. I want something > , not something for this occasion. > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 20:14:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAM2En6q015779 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:14:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 40DA71E60193; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:07:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E80401E60108 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:07:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A54CA2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:00:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 464752 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:00:36 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAM20Z330689 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:00:35 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.170.123]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031122020030.QCSK1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:00:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBEC33F.E1B7C0E@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:00:31 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <3FBEAD91.52379A3E@maynor.net> <013d01c3b092$90345b50$687a8083@awild4dj8f> <3FBEBD2A.E72225B@maynor.net> <016401c3b09a$6ea9a690$687a8083@awild4dj8f> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alan Wild wrote: > > oh gosh... reverence is not stale, ever. I'm sorry to have offered. What Don't be sorry to have offered. > ever happened to reverence to women and men offering their lives and > fortunes for our collective peace and tranquility, so be it? I guess we > simply treat it like the check-out line in the local market. ? I really don't get your point. As I said earlier, people who serve in the military are deserving of thanks and appreciation, even though probably the majority did not think that they would end up on a battlefield. Jessica Lynch, for example, said that she joined the military for the travel and the chance to get an education. She said that she really didn't think war would be involved since she volunteered when we were at peace. She's my example only because I read an interview with her in Time or Newsweek recently. But I feel sure that she is fairly typical. The fact is, though, that all of the military personnel are working hard, risking life and limb, etc. because of the frightening neocon imperialist administration. To quote a man in England who said that he would not shake Dubya's hand when he visited, "it's stained with the blood of my son." (from: http://tinyurl.com/vr30) It is not the soldiers' fault that they are working right now not *for* our collective peace and tranquility, but *against* it. It is Dubya and his cronies to be blamed, not the troops. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 20:34:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAM2YL6q016037 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:34:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EDCD31E6031F; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:27:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A72A71E601B0 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:27:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A54CD5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:20:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 465268 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:20:02 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAM2K2332002 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:20:02 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAM2K18b012565 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:20:01 -0500 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.104]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAM2JxfC001780 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:20:00 -0500 Message-ID: <019701c3b09f$220a60e0$687a8083@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3FBEAD91.52379A3E@maynor.net> <013d01c3b092$90345b50$687a8083@awild4dj8f> <3FBEBD2A.E72225B@maynor.net> <016401c3b09a$6ea9a690$687a8083@awild4dj8f> <3FBEC33F.E1B7C0E@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: It's Time Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:20:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" > Alan Wild wrote: > > > > oh gosh... reverence is not stale, ever. I'm sorry to have offered. What > > Don't be sorry to have offered. > > > ever happened to reverence to women and men offering their lives and > > fortunes for our collective peace and tranquility, so be it? I guess we > > simply treat it like the check-out line in the local market. > > ? I really don't get your point. As I said earlier, people who serve > in the military are deserving of thanks and appreciation, even though > probably the majority did not think that they would end up on a > battlefield. Jessica Lynch, for example, said that she joined the > military for the travel and the chance to get an education. She said > that she really didn't think war would be involved since she volunteered > when we were at peace. She's my example only because I read an > interview with her in Time or Newsweek recently. But I feel sure that > she is fairly typical. 'Nope.. certainly not typical... the vast majority of people who join the defense forces to protect our way of life with their lives are men, and have always been men, and they know what they are getting into... yet to find congruence with you, they put themselves into a modern-harms way that many can't even imagine. They are aware of this potential adversary and are educated about it by their cadre. They remain though; ain't it funny? Gee... they're still there. They must be made of something special... Yep. 'Tiz true. They are men and women who are here and there so Dr. Maynor can go speak her mind at the ARF convention. 'True. They're here so Alan Wild's children grow up worrying about loads of elementary school homework instead of food sources. They are fighting for it all and it's the good fight, and Natalie, I wish you'd give'em some kudos. Your pal, 'Alan > The fact is, though, that all of the military > personnel are working hard, risking life and limb, etc. because of the > frightening neocon imperialist administration. To quote a man in > England who said that he would not shake Dubya's hand when he visited, > "it's stained with the blood of my son." (from: > http://tinyurl.com/vr30) It is not the soldiers' fault that they are > working right now not *for* our collective peace and tranquility, but > *against* it. It is Dubya and his cronies to be blamed, not the troops. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 21:03:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAM33D6q016349 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:03:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E5DFA1E60320; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:56:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B06311E6031F for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:56:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A54D23@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:48:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 465789 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:48:49 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAM2cn300508 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:38:49 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAM2bqm9026438 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:37:54 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:38:47 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <3FBEAD91.52379A3E@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FBEAD91.52379A3E@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >will> -- something that can fit with "The Christmas Spirit" without >being specific to xtianity. A Jewish friend of mine e-mailed me several .... >All suggestions will be appreciated. (It won't be a bow-your-head >prayer, btw. And I don't want it to be merely a "let's observe a moment >of silence.") Interesting. Something that is Christmasy without being Christmasy. When one gives an invocation, one invokes some entity. Which entity do you want to invoke, Natalie? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 21:09:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAM39w6q016396 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:09:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7D7711E60320; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:03:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 308B81E6031F for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:03:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F2E60@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:55:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 466100 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:55:43 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAM2th301361 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:55:43 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.170.123]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031122025537.IAKV6696.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:55:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBED02A.5217FBA5@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:55:38 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <3FBEAD91.52379A3E@maynor.net> <013d01c3b092$90345b50$687a8083@awild4dj8f> <3FBEBD2A.E72225B@maynor.net> <016401c3b09a$6ea9a690$687a8083@awild4dj8f> <3FBEC33F.E1B7C0E@maynor.net> <019701c3b09f$220a60e0$687a8083@awild4dj8f> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alan Wild wrote: > > she is fairly typical. > 'Nope.. certainly not typical... the vast majority of people who join the > defense forces to protect our way of life with their lives are men, and have Sorry -- I was not clear. I didn't mean that she was typical as in being female. I was talking about her attitude -- why she joined. Her attitude also, according to the interview I read, was still gung-ho military. I don't mean to suggest that she was anti-military. > always been men, and they know what they are getting into... yet to find > congruence with you, they put themselves into a modern-harms way that many > can't even imagine. And you know that's what's in their mind when they join? Exactly how do you know that? (And I agree that we are parallel here in that I also can't tell for sure why most people join. I am speaking from my experience -- as in people I've known who have joined, including West Point and AF Academy graduates, and from stories/interviews I've read.) > They remain though; ain't it funny? > Gee... they're still there. They must be made of something special... Yep. > 'Tiz true. Wouldn't you remain? Wouldn't I? I for sure would. If I committed myself to a military stint, I would serve it. I'm not into reneging. > They are men and women who are here and there so Dr. Maynor can go speak her > mind at the ARF convention. ARF convention? We don't exactly have . The Association of Retired Faculty have meetings several times a year and a xmas banquet. I wouldn't call those conventions. And I don't think the military has anything to do with it. > 'True. They're here so Alan Wild's children > grow up worrying about loads of elementary school homework instead of food > sources. They are fighting for it all and it's the good fight, and Natalie, > I wish you'd give'em some kudos. You really, really, really don't . I have given lots of kudos to military personnel. But I think you meant to say oil sources, not food sources. And you really think it's just fine to attack foreign countries who have not done anything to you just so you can drive an SUV? Nevermind. I am not so naive as to not realize that there are many people who do feel that way. But please don't go trying to convince me to . I am not in favor of killing thousands of innocent people so that my fellow Americans can drive their gas-guzzlers and put water devices on the fronts of their refrigerators or whatever. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 21:16:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAM3GT6q016445 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:16:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2E7CE1E60322; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:09:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F23FC1E601B9 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:09:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A54D4F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:02:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 466414 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:02:16 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAM32F301772 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:02:15 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.170.123]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031122030210.ICFK6696.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:02:10 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBED1B3.3A78E8E3@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:02:11 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <3FBEAD91.52379A3E@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >will> -- something that can fit with "The Christmas Spirit" without > >being specific to xtianity. A Jewish friend of mine e-mailed me several > .... > >All suggestions will be appreciated. (It won't be a bow-your-head > >prayer, btw. And I don't want it to be merely a "let's observe a moment > >of silence.") > > Interesting. Something that is Christmasy without being Christmasy. ? I don't see where you're getting that idea. I left in everything above -- didn't edit out anything. I said something that can fit with "The Christmas spirit" without being specific to xtianity. Hmm. I'm guessing that you think that "The Christmas spirit" must be taken quite literally -- as in it must be specific to Christianity. Right? I don't see it that way at all. But then you probably also believe that the world was created in six 24-hr days. > When one gives an invocation, one invokes some entity. Which entity do > you want to invoke, Natalie? I want to invoke a general spirit, not anything related to a particular religion. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 21:28:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAM3ST6q016577 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:28:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C28391E601C7; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:21:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92D511E601B9 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:21:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A54D7B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:14:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 466558 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:14:15 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAM33m301938 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:03:48 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAM32qm9004080 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:02:53 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:03:47 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <3FBED02A.5217FBA5@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FBEAD91.52379A3E@maynor.net> <013d01c3b092$90345b50$687a8083@awild4dj8f> <3FBEBD2A.E72225B@maynor.net> <016401c3b09a$6ea9a690$687a8083@awild4dj8f> <3FBEC33F.E1B7C0E@maynor.net> <019701c3b09f$220a60e0$687a8083@awild4dj8f> <3FBED02A.5217FBA5@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >You really, really, really don't . I have given lots of kudos >to military personnel. But I think you meant to say oil sources, not >food sources. And you really think it's just fine to attack foreign >countries who have not done anything to you just so you can drive an >SUV? Nevermind. I am not so naive as to not realize that there are >many people who do feel that way. But please don't go trying to >convince me to . I am not in favor of killing thousands >of innocent people so that my fellow Americans can drive their >gas-guzzlers and put water devices on the fronts of their refrigerators >or whatever. Speaking of individuals who really, really don't it - try reading Natalie's posts. If she does not approve of something, she often equates its use with diabolical intent, deliberate cruelty, and mind-numbing evil. Yet she does not, so far as I know, believe in . Interesting ... Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 21:31:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAM3Vw6q016645 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:31:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3E44A1E60320; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:25:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E8951E601C7 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:25:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A54D84@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:17:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 466622 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:17:45 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAM37i302248 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:07:45 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAM36nm9004782 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:06:49 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:07:44 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <3FBED1B3.3A78E8E3@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FBEAD91.52379A3E@maynor.net> <3FBED1B3.3A78E8E3@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >above -- didn't edit out anything. I said something that can fit with >"The Christmas spirit" without being specific to xtianity. Hmm. I'm As I said ... >see it that way at all. But then you probably also believe that the >world was created in six 24-hr days. Dream on, Natalie. You must live in an interesting alternative universe. >> When one gives an invocation, one invokes some entity. Which entity do >> you want to invoke, Natalie? > >I want to invoke a general spirit, not anything related to a particular >religion. Which ? Given your position, why in the world are you willing to ? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 21:38:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAM3cv6q016716 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:38:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4F5FE1E601CF; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:32:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 185651E601CC for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:32:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A54D98@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:24:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 467098 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:24:44 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAM3Oi303205 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:24:44 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.170.123]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031122032439.THNJ20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:24:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBED6F6.A5AF0398@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:24:39 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Ire Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I love an irate engineer. Or actually what I love is the meeting of common minds by accident. I had seen this person's name on letters to the editor in the Clarion-Ledger several times, always liked what he said, and finally a few weeks ago googled his name and found an e-mail address for him. I sent him a short note saying that I wasn't sure that I had reached the right person but that I had seen letters to the editor from somebody by that name and wanted to say how good I thought they were. What's small-worldish (sort of -- he lives in south Mississippi now, not the other side of the world) is that it turns out he had taught engineering here for a while. He then moved to Houston and New Orleans to do engineering stuff, then retired and moved to south Mississippi. Anyway, my e-mail to him put me on his list of recipients for various diatribes and recommended urls. This is one I just got. I haven't checked the url yet. Will do so tomorrow. Am fading now after a VERY long day. But I was intrigued by his irate tone, which made me think again about these things I've been reading and also noticing in real life about the hate -- the hate manifested toward Clinton and now the hate manifested toward Dubya. Here's his e-mail (quoted without permission, but I'm not revealing his identity, and I think it was sent to a huge group of recipients): > Nothing about Bush shocks me anymore. I EXPECT lying, cheating, > double-dealing, etc. > I thought you might find this interesting. > What does disappoint me though is how so many people are taken in by this > bastard. Are they blind or do they somehow believe that they will be in on > the fat-cat profits as the society collapses around them? > http://www.commoncause.org/action/action.cfm?topicid=17 -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 21:41:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAM3fg6q016742 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:41:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 59E681E601CF; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:34:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24CA61E601CC for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:34:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A54D9A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:27:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 467125 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:27:29 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAM3RT303319 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:27:29 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.170.123]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031122032724.TILM20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:27:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBED79D.D733B640@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:27:25 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <3FBEAD91.52379A3E@maynor.net> <013d01c3b092$90345b50$687a8083@awild4dj8f> <3FBEBD2A.E72225B@maynor.net> <016401c3b09a$6ea9a690$687a8083@awild4dj8f> <3FBEC33F.E1B7C0E@maynor.net> <019701c3b09f$220a60e0$687a8083@awild4dj8f> <3FBED02A.5217FBA5@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Speaking of individuals who really, really don't it - try reading > Natalie's posts. If she does not approve of something, she often equates > its use with diabolical intent, deliberate cruelty, and mind-numbing > evil. > > Yet she does not, so far as I know, believe in . Huh?? I'm about to log off. Won't delete this because I want to read it again tomorrow. It makes zero sense to me in any way. (Have I ever talked about , btw? I have no memory of it.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 21:46:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAM3ki6q016814 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:46:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7EF951E60320; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:39:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B89F1E601D2 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:39:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A54DA9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:32:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 467186 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:32:30 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAM3WU303568 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:32:30 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.170.123]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031122033225.TKBO20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:32:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBED8CA.3D2CA3F6@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:32:26 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <3FBEAD91.52379A3E@maynor.net> <3FBED1B3.3A78E8E3@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >I want to invoke a general spirit, not anything related to a particular > >religion. > > Which ? What is it that you don't understand about the word "general"? How can there be a general? General means general. Do you have no concept whatsoever of spirituality? My guess, based on many things you've posted, is that you don't. You're into , not . > Given your position, why in the world are you > willing to ? What position? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 22:01:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAM41V6q016934 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:01:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3D4011E60328; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:54:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0885D1E60320 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:54:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A54DC4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:47:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 467497 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:47:18 -0500 Received: from vmmr5.verisignmail.com (vmmrnat.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.187]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAM3lG304326 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:47:16 -0500 Received: from ms4.verisignmail.com (ms4.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.177] (may be forged)) by vmmr5.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id QIR28533; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:26:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by ms4.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id AVE98470; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:26:25 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:23:54 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: It's Time Reply-To: mem@noxiousweeds.net Message-ID: <3FBE4A2A.10652.1D67DF7@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: References: <3FBED02A.5217FBA5@maynor.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 21 Nov 2003 at 22:03, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > If she does not approve of something, she often equates > its use with diabolical intent, deliberate cruelty, and mind-numbing evil. And I just generally call them superstitions. mem From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 22:12:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAM4CV6q017102 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:12:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D9F5B1E60215; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:05:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5CD41E60213 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:05:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A54E29@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:58:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 468285 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:58:17 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAM3wH305526 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:58:17 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-190.gwi.net [216.195.152.190]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAM3wFAr054135 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:58:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031121225139.00bbb620@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:58:27 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <3FBEAD91.52379A3E@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Ok, so what I would like to find is something like a decently written, >though not necessarily intellectually , poem exuding will> --- Natalie From http://www.indianchild.com/peace_prayers.htm Zoroastrian Prayer for Peace We pray to God to eradicate all the misery in the world: that understanding triumph over ignorance, that generosity triumph over indifference, that trust triumph over contempt, and that truth triumph over falsehood. Sikh Prayer for Peace God adjudges us according to our deeds, not the coat that we wear: that Truth is above everything, but higher still is truthful living. Know that we attaineth God when we loveth, and only victory endures in consequences of which no one is defeated. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 22:30:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAM4UJ6q017250 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:30:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 378C01E601CC; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:23:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C6B1E601C4 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:23:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55028@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 23:16:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 472517 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 23:16:05 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAM4G5308450 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 23:16:05 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:15:59 PST Message-ID: <20031122041559.20273.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:15:59 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: It's Time To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FBEAD91.52379A3E@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: I'm > also still thinking that it would be nice to find > something from > American Indian lore/ritual. Or maybe I should just > sit here and think > about it at some point and come up with my own > words. That seems kind > of , though. I have just relocated my server, or vice versa, so I'm really late attending to any mail. I would think an American Indian lore/ritual sort of thing would be absolutely appropriate; or, combine your bumptiousness with that by finding a scenario/anecdote that accords with your philosophy, and rephrase it as you wish, with attribution, of course, to the inspiration. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 22:34:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAM4YZ6q017295 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:34:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 532D81E601C1; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:27:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F2261E601C4 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:27:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F319E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 23:20:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 472580 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 23:20:21 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAM4KL308674 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 23:20:21 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:20:14 PST Message-ID: <20031122042015.36376.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:20:14 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Londonitis To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FBEAE6C.69355DCB@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > > He quit because he was a reporter and he had to > rush > > out to write a fifteen page story as an insider > about everything he had > > access to as well as an "insider's perspective" of > what was going on in > > preparation for the visit. > > Yes, the story of the reporter who sneaked in has > been quite well > publicized. My often flawed intuition tells me something is wrong with this picture - the resourceful tabloid reporter who evades all manner of precautions taking when folks hired employed into service to royalty, but I'm probably wrong again. It just doesn't FEEL right to me. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 22:37:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAM4bm6q017344 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:37:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EB3101E601CC; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:30:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B78361E601C4 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:30:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55037@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 23:23:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 472658 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 23:23:34 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAM4NY308988 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 23:23:34 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:23:29 PST Message-ID: <20031122042329.98853.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:23:29 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: It's Time To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <013d01c3b092$90345b50$687a8083@awild4dj8f> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Alan Wild wrote: > 'Veterans, Natalie... express to the ARF minions > ours and your appreciation, > and theirs expected, for the thousands of individual > soldiers and entire > families whom sacrifice hourly for our peace and > quiet at home here. > > Thank you for your reverence... 'Wickedly grateful, > Alan Wicked with or without a smiley? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 22:45:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAM4jI6q017435 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:45:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CA3D91E601C5; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:38:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94A9C1E601C1 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:38:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F31ED@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 23:31:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 472841 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 23:30:55 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAM4Ut309642 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 23:30:55 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:30:50 PST Message-ID: <20031122043050.39298.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:30:50 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: It's Time To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <019701c3b09f$220a60e0$687a8083@awild4dj8f> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Alan Wild wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Natalie Maynor" > > Alan Wild wrote: > > > > > > oh gosh... reverence is not stale, ever. I'm > sorry to have offered. > What > > > > Don't be sorry to have offered. > > > > > ever happened to reverence to women and men > offering their lives and > > > fortunes for our collective peace and > tranquility, so be it? I guess we > > > simply treat it like the check-out line in the > local market. > > > > ? I really don't get your point. As I said > earlier, people who serve > > in the military are deserving of thanks and > appreciation, even though > > probably the majority did not think that they > would end up on a > > battlefield. Jessica Lynch, for example, said > that she joined the > > military for the travel and the chance to get an > education. She said > > that she really didn't think war would be involved > since she volunteered > > when we were at peace. She's my example only > because I read an > > interview with her in Time or Newsweek recently. > But I feel sure that > > she is fairly typical. > > 'Nope.. certainly not typical... the vast majority > of people who join the > defense forces to protect our way of life with their > lives are men, and have > always been men, and they know what they are getting > into... yet to find > congruence with you, they put themselves into a > modern-harms way that many > can't even imagine. They are aware of this > potential adversary and are > educated about it by their cadre. They remain > though; ain't it funny? > Gee... they're still there. They must be made of > something special... Yep. > 'Tiz true. > > They are men and women who are here and there so Dr. > Maynor can go speak her > mind at the ARF convention. 'True. They're here so > Alan Wild's children > grow up worrying about loads of elementary school > homework instead of food > sources. They are fighting for it all and it's the > good fight, and Natalie, > I wish you'd give'em some kudos. > > Your pal, 'Alan > > > > > > The fact is, though, that all of the military > > personnel are working hard, risking life and limb, > etc. because of the > > frightening neocon imperialist administration. To > quote a man in > > England who said that he would not shake Dubya's > hand when he visited, > > "it's stained with the blood of my son." (from: > > http://tinyurl.com/vr30) It is not the soldiers' > fault that they are > > working right now not *for* our collective peace > and tranquility, but > > *against* it. It is Dubya and his cronies to be > blamed, not the troops. > > > > -- > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) For some reason, WW's infamous line keeps recurring in my mind. "There is such a thing s being too (fill in the blank) to fight." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 22:51:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAM4pZ6q017508 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:51:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EB3E41E601C7; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:44:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB6141E601C5 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:44:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A55073@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 23:37:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 472995 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 23:37:22 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAM4bL310363 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 23:37:21 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:37:16 PST Message-ID: <20031122043716.26148.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:37:16 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: It's Time To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FBE4A2A.10652.1D67DF7@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Michael E. Macmillan" wrote: > On 21 Nov 2003 at 22:03, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > > > If she does not approve of something, she often > equates > > its use with diabolical intent, deliberate > cruelty, and mind-numbing evil. > > And I just generally call them superstitions. > > mem If there is genuine evil in this world, as I believe there is, sin is just as good a word to use as any other I can think of, to describe the mode of operation of that evilness. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 22:57:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAM4vj6q017633 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:57:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 06CD11E601CC; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:50:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7ADB1E601C5 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:50:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5506F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 23:43:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 473202 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 23:43:31 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAM4hU310813 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 23:43:30 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:43:25 PST Message-ID: <20031122044325.87573.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:43:25 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: It's Time To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031121225139.00bbb620@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: > >Ok, so what I would like to find is something like > a decently written, > >though not necessarily intellectually , > poem exuding >will> --- Natalie > > From http://www.indianchild.com/peace_prayers.htm > > Zoroastrian Prayer for Peace > > We pray to God to eradicate all the > misery in the world: > that understanding triumph > over ignorance, > that generosity triumph over indifference, > that trust triumph over contempt, and > that truth triumph over falsehood. > > > Sikh Prayer for Peace > > God adjudges us according > to our deeds, > not the coat that we wear: > that Truth is above everything, > but higher still is truthful living. > Know that we attaineth God when we loveth, > and only victory > endures in consequences of which no > one is defeated. > > > > > bonnie God is mightily insinuating. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 21 23:03:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAM53J6q017667 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 23:03:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CB19B1E601C5; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:56:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9865F1E60189 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:56:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A55094@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 23:49:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 473383 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 23:49:05 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAM4n5311442 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 23:49:05 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:49:00 PST Message-ID: <20031122044900.28918.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:49:00 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Koolaid Anniversary To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <000401c3b052$7dae7d20$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > > > > Yes, I remember I heard about it on BBC World > Service which I was > listening to at night while I was cramming for one > of my exams in > History of Religions - very fitting. > > > > Espen > > Did any of you see Guyana Tragedy with > Boothe Powers? Remarkably well done. > > - D. M. I never saw it in its entirety, but thought Powers was marvelous. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 00:57:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAM6vA6q018971 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 00:57:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 418771E60230; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 00:50:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C4A51E601E7 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 00:50:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A552E6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 1:42:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 478585 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 01:42:55 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAM6gs321575 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 01:42:54 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAM6gmQb014858 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 00:42:50 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <004801c3b0c3$e18c85a0$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3FBED02A.5217FBA5@maynor.net> <3FBE4A2A.10652.1D67DF7@localhost> Subject: Re: Re: It's Time Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 00:43:03 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dumas wrote: > > > If she does not approve of something, she often equates > > its use with diabolical intent, deliberate cruelty, and mind-numbing evil. > > And I just generally call them superstitions. > > mem Mem, you do indeed show up here now and then. You know I will be over there soooooon. Well, not soon enough. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 01:01:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAM71m6q019064 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 01:01:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7F6CE1E6022B; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 00:54:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C75E1E601E7 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 00:54:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A552DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 1:47:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 478678 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 01:47:32 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAM6lW321785 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 01:47:32 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAM6lQQb028788 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 00:47:28 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <005501c3b0c4$8776e320$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031122043716.26148.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: It's Time Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 00:47:38 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne: > If there is genuine evil in this world, as I believe > there is, sin is just as good a word to use as any > other I can think of, to describe the mode of > operation of that evilness. > I do not believe in evil. I think all things that we think of as are the result of lack of understanding. If people knew better they would do better. They are just learning, and have a long ways to go. We all do. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 02:10:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAM8AT6q019673 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 02:10:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B46391E60200; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 02:03:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FF861E601E7 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 02:03:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A553DA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 2:56:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 481370 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 02:56:13 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAM7uD327666 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 02:56:13 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F3553@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 2:56:13 -0500 Message-Id: <200311220756.hAM7uD327666@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 02:56:13 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: ER To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:22:57 -0500, Karen Kay wrote: >On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:08:18 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander >wrote: >>Karen, it's a rare day when I disagree with you, but I'm with Evelyn on >>this one. Romano's first "human" moment was when he operated on his dog; > >I found that uncomfortable, odd, and un-understandable. Well, it was clear that he loved the dog and that it mattered to him at least as much as his patients. It was written in, I think, to emphasize the level of alienation his character felt from other people. >>he clearly was in love with Alex Kingston's character; >I don't think so. I think there was a strange attraction, but I don't think >he can love. (I love how unjudgmental I am!) I love it too! But seriously, we each of us love in the inadequate ways that we're individually capable of, and he did sincerely love her. He was jealous of Mark, but he came through it and wished her happy, with a lot of cost to himself. And he was very supportive when Mark was dying. >>and he does lots >>of little behind the scenes kind stuff without (apparently) viewers >>realizing it. > >Example? see above. >>It's all very subtle, and he never drops the rules of "don't >>display weakness" and "don't tolerate disagreement". But I find him a >>sympathetic, complex character and liked him very much. > >Wow. Okay. Not me (as you may have guessed). > >>btw, does anyone see a Moby Dick connection (or Peter Pan crocodile >> connection) to that helicopter, coming after Romano after getting his >>arm first? > >LOL. That hadn't occurred to me (actually, I was on the phone during most >of the show, so I didn't really watch it), but I feel quite sure that it is >there deliberately. This is funny. (I did tape it, though, so I'll watch it >later.) Well, given that the whole reason he was down there was that he had a flashback to the rotor taking his arm in the first place. It came back in a sense for the rest. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 07:58:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMDwY6q023273 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 07:58:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 57AD51E60207; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 07:51:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27E6F1E601E0 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 07:51:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A55650@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 8:44:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 486298 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:44:16 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMDYF310975 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:34:15 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAMDXIm9002800 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:33:20 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:34:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <3FBE4A2A.10652.1D67DF7@localhost> Message-ID: References: <3FBED02A.5217FBA5@maynor.net> <3FBE4A2A.10652.1D67DF7@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Michael E. Macmillan wrote: >> If she does not approve of something, she often equates >> its use with diabolical intent, deliberate cruelty, and mind-numbing evil. > >And I just generally call them superstitions. So my water/ice dispenser on my refrigerator is a superstition???> Oay, whatever. Language is fascinating. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 07:58:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMDwc6q023276 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 07:58:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E32AC1E60207; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 07:51:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2D4B1E601E0 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 07:51:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55636@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 8:44:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 486489 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:44:20 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMDiJ311470 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:44:20 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031122134414.BSCC1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:44:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBF6830.16BDA275@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 07:44:16 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <3FBEAD91.52379A3E@maynor.net> <013d01c3b092$90345b50$687a8083@awild4dj8f> <3FBEBD2A.E72225B@maynor.net> <016401c3b09a$6ea9a690$687a8083@awild4dj8f> <3FBEC33F.E1B7C0E@maynor.net> <019701c3b09f$220a60e0$687a8083@awild4dj8f> <3FBED02A.5217FBA5@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Speaking of individuals who really, really don't it - try reading > Natalie's posts. If she does not approve of something, she often equates > its use with diabolical intent, deliberate cruelty, and mind-numbing > evil. Yes, I believe that the big things I disapprove of are often diabolical, evil, etc. Re deliberate cruelty, I think that's rarer, though it can happen. I think selfish indifference is more often the case, which can have the same result as deliberate cruelty but which isn't motivated in exactly the same way. There are many lesser things I disapprove of but don't associate with any of the above descriptions -- little things that I find moderately rude, like a student's coming up to the podium and having a long conversation about why he or she will miss the next class, while other students are sitting there waiting for class to begin. I think that's just inconsiderate, not diabolical, cruel, evil. > Yet she does not, so far as I know, believe in . I don't know why you think this. Certainly dialbolical (etc.) acts can be called sin. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 08:01:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAME1B6q023286 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:01:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1B1FC1E60207; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 07:54:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB40F1E601E0 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 07:54:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5564C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 8:46:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 486360 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:46:53 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMDar311099 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:36:53 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAMDZvm9006547 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:35:57 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:36:48 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <005501c3b0c4$8776e320$e1cadece@0018079268> Message-ID: References: <20031122043716.26148.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <005501c3b0c4$8776e320$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Doris Markland wrote: >I do not believe in evil. I think all things that we >think of as are the result of lack >of understanding. If people knew better they >would do better. They are just learning, and >have a long ways to go. We all do. How far did Hitler have to go, Doris? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 08:02:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAME2D6q023290 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:02:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 62A781E60207; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 07:55:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32E111E601E0 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 07:55:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5564F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 8:47:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 486540 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:47:55 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMDlt311647 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:47:55 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031122134750.BSZC1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:47:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBF6908.59A2F439@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 07:47:52 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <3FBEAD91.52379A3E@maynor.net> <3FBED1B3.3A78E8E3@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Which ? Given your position, why in the world are you > willing to ? I think I answered this last night. I remember questioning the idea of a which in relation to a general spirit and asking what you meant by my . But I don't see any mail from you ahead in the queue. I'm curious about what you think my is. My position on what exactly? (Re the why -- I would never have volunteered for this role. It falls to me because I'm VP of ARF. The VP always does the banquet invocation. Hmmm. I might invoke the ghost of xmas present or some such. Will think upon that.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 08:06:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAME606q023306 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:06:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8B0F61E60210; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 07:59:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E04C1E60207 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 07:59:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A55659@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 8:51:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 486557 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:51:42 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMDpf311770 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:51:41 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031122135136.BTXH1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:51:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBF69EA.6B9EED9A@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 07:51:38 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031121225139.00bbb620@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > From http://www.indianchild.com/peace_prayers.htm Thanks! There may be some good possibilities here. I was talking about American Indian when I said Indian, but still I might get some ideas from India also. One reason I was thinking of American Indian is that it would move away from any particular one of the world's big religions. Iow, I'd rather not favor Hinduism, for example. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 08:10:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMEAg6q023353 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:10:42 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 00BE91E60207; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:03:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C57AA1E601E0 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:03:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5565A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 8:56:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 486512 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:56:24 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMDkO311567 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:46:24 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAMDjSm9018075 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:45:28 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:46:23 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <3FBED8CA.3D2CA3F6@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FBEAD91.52379A3E@maynor.net> <3FBED1B3.3A78E8E3@maynor.net> <3FBED8CA.3D2CA3F6@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> >I want to invoke a general spirit, not anything related to a particular >> >religion. >> >> Which ? > >What is it that you don't understand about the word "general"? How can >there be a general? General means general. Do you have no >concept whatsoever of spirituality? My guess, based on many things >you've posted, is that you don't. You're into , not . And my guess is that you are a frustrated seeker, one who cannot seem to find the REAL spirit behind what you see as sobordinate spirits - those celebrated by various religions. I do not recall posting about . For my edification, please cite one that I have posted. >> Given your position, why in the world are you >> willing to ? > >What position? That only the counts - and that you cannot seem to find it. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 08:11:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMEBc6q023357 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:11:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 37FB01E60210; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:04:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 077F11E60207 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:04:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55664@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 8:57:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 486904 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:57:21 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMDvK312281 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:57:20 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031122135715.BVHC1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:57:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBF6B3D.42FE782D@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 07:57:17 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031121225139.00bbb620@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > From http://www.indianchild.com/peace_prayers.htm I kind of like this one since it doesn't use the specific word "God," thus leaving it more of an invocation of a general spirit of goodness: Baha'i Prayer for Peace Be generous in prosperity, and thankful in adversity. Be fair in judgement, and guarded in thy speech, Be a lamp unto those who walk in darkness, and a home to the stranger. Be eyes to the blind, and a guiding light unto the feet of the erring Be a breath of life to the body of humankind, a dew to the soil of the human heart, and a fruit upon the tree of humility. And there are of course Xtian words that would do in that they aren't really specific to Xtianity. E.g.: Christian Prayer for Peace Blessed are the PEACEMAKERS, for they shall be known as the Children of God. But I say to you that hear, love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you pray for those who abuse you. To those that strike you on the cheek, offer the other one also, and from those who take away your cloak, do not withhold your coat as well. Give to everyone who begs from you, and of those who take away your goods, do not ask for them again. And as you wish that others would do to you, do so to them. I'm bookmarking that site. Thanks. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 08:14:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMEEK6q023399 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:14:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 44F781E60210; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:07:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 148251E60207 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:07:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F3792@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 9:00:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 486966 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 09:00:02 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAME02312454 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 09:00:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031122135957.BWAK1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:59:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBF6BDF.BD17857E@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 07:59:59 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <20031122041559.20273.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > I would think an American Indian lore/ritual sort of > thing would be absolutely appropriate; or, combine > your bumptiousness with that by finding a > scenario/anecdote that accords with your philosophy, > and rephrase it as you wish, with attribution, of > course, to the inspiration. I have in fact thought about actually coming up with the words/thoughts myself, though I'd rather quote. (I think I might have said that last night.) It's sort of like my blog. Instead of talking about my own thoughts, opinions, philosophy, I just give urls for columns etc. that say things better than I would say them. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 08:26:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMEQY6q023498 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:26:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CBD9C1E60270; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:19:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 981F71E6026F for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:19:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F37E5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 9:12:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 487301 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 09:12:04 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMEC4313149 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 09:12:04 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031122141159.BZEK1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 09:11:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBF6EB1.783A4828@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:12:01 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <3FBEAD91.52379A3E@maynor.net> <3FBED1B3.3A78E8E3@maynor.net> <3FBED8CA.3D2CA3F6@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >What is it that you don't understand about the word "general"? How can > >there be a general? General means general. Do you have no > >concept whatsoever of spirituality? My guess, based on many things > >you've posted, is that you don't. You're into , not . > > And my guess is that you are a frustrated seeker, one who cannot seem to > find the REAL spirit behind what you see as sobordinate spirits - those > celebrated by various religions. I've said nothing about subordinate spirits. I consider the spirits celebrated by various religions all the same thing. Different religions use different metaphors, like xtianity's virgin-birth myth etc., but the basic spirit is the same. By wanting to invoke a "general" spirit, I mean one that is not tied directly to any one of the specific religious metaphors. > I do not recall posting about . For my edification, please cite one > that I have posted. Vow of celibacy. > >> Given your position, why in the world are you >> willing to ? > > > >What position? > > That only the counts - and that you cannot seem to find > it. Huh? I've said nothing about what does or doesn't . In your particular church you can use that church's (that religion's) specific trappings -- specific metaphors. Since this group consists of people of many religions, I want to make the invocation appropriately general. The group also includes atheists, of course, but I think I've mentioned before that I am less concerned about including them -- for various reasons that are perhaps not logical but that seem to make sense to me. Re what I cannot seem to find, I'm ROFL. I find your presumptions hilarious. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 08:30:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMEUW6q023532 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:30:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 12A851E60270; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:23:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D217F1E6026F for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:23:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A556AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 9:16:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 487383 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 09:16:14 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMEGE313358 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 09:16:14 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-184-130.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.184.130]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAMEFeVs022797 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 06:15:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FBF6F5C.3000203@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:14:52 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <20031122043716.26148.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <005501c3b0c4$8776e320$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Doris Markland wrote: > > >>I do not believe in evil. I think all things that we >>think of as are the result of lack >>of understanding. If people knew better they >>would do better. They are just learning, and >>have a long ways to go. We all do. >> > > How far did Hitler have to go, Doris? It's been awhile since we've seen Godwin's law invoked around here. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 08:49:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMEnN6q023866 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:49:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D017A1E60270; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:42:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A003B1E601E3 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:42:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A556DB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 9:35:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 487821 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 09:35:05 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMEZ5314712 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 09:35:05 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAMEZ3eO005514 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 06:35:03 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAMEZ2a2005491; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 06:35:03 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031122063657.00a49320@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 06:37:17 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <20031122043716.26148.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> References: <3FBE4A2A.10652.1D67DF7@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:37 PM 11/21/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- "Michael E. Macmillan" >wrote: > > On 21 Nov 2003 at 22:03, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > > > > > If she does not approve of something, she often > > equates > > > its use with diabolical intent, deliberate > > cruelty, and mind-numbing evil. > > > > And I just generally call them superstitions. > > > > mem > >If there is genuine evil in this world, as I believe >there is, sin is just as good a word to use as any >other I can think of, to describe the mode of >operation of that evilness. I don't think Natalie is evil. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 08:50:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMEoU6q023897 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:50:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 854781E60270; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:43:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F261E601E3 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:43:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A556CB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 9:36:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 487835 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 09:36:12 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMEaB314825 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 09:36:11 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAMEaA2f007922 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 06:36:10 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAMEa7JC007880; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 06:36:08 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031122063748.00a75b30@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 06:38:22 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <004801c3b0c3$e18c85a0$e1cadece@0018079268> References: <3FBED02A.5217FBA5@maynor.net> <3FBE4A2A.10652.1D67DF7@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:43 AM 11/22/2003 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: >Dumas wrote: > > > > > If she does not approve of something, she often equates > > > its use with diabolical intent, deliberate cruelty, and mind-numbing >evil. > > > > And I just generally call them superstitions. > > > > mem > >Mem, you do indeed show up here >now and then. > >You know I will be over there soooooon. > >Well, not soon enough. Yeah, yeah. Rub it in. Is your son still home, Doris? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 08:51:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMEpm6q023908 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:51:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 583921E60270; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:44:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F7F1E601E3 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:44:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F37EC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 9:37:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 487869 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 09:37:30 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMEbT314992 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 09:37:29 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAMEbS2f008912 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 06:37:28 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAMEbQJC008891; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 06:37:27 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031122063851.00a63c70@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 06:39:41 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <005501c3b0c4$8776e320$e1cadece@0018079268> References: <20031122043716.26148.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:47 AM 11/22/2003 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: >Lynne: > > > If there is genuine evil in this world, as I believe > > there is, sin is just as good a word to use as any > > other I can think of, to describe the mode of > > operation of that evilness. > > > >I do not believe in evil. I think all things that we >think of as are the result of lack >of understanding. If people knew better they >would do better. They are just learning, and >have a long ways to go. We all do. > > - D. M. That is too simple. I'm sure you can think of people who must have just been born evil. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 08:56:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMEuj6q023929 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:56:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B49871E60273; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:49:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 803EA1E60272 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:49:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A556F2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 9:42:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 487938 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 09:42:27 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMEgR315268 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 09:42:27 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAMEgPeO010565 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 06:42:26 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAMEgOa2010549; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 06:42:25 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031122064258.00a69b90@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 06:44:39 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <3FBF6BDF.BD17857E@maynor.net> References: <20031122041559.20273.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:59 AM 11/22/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I have in fact thought about actually coming up with the words/thoughts >myself, though I'd rather quote. (I think I might have said that last >night.) It's sort of like my blog. Instead of talking about my own >thoughts, opinions, philosophy, I just give urls for columns etc. that >say things better than I would say them. I'd rather read your words. I'd hate to belong to a list where everyone just posted URLs or forwards. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 09:00:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMF0o6q023971 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 09:00:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0FB2A1E60275; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:53:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D407C1E601E3 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:53:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A556DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 9:46:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 488003 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 09:46:32 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMEkW315499 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 09:46:32 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAMEkU2f012820 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 06:46:31 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAMEkTJC012813; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 06:46:30 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031122064527.00a61e80@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 06:48:44 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <3FBF6EB1.783A4828@maynor.net> References: <3FBEAD91.52379A3E@maynor.net> <3FBED1B3.3A78E8E3@maynor.net> <3FBED8CA.3D2CA3F6@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:12 AM 11/22/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >. > Since this group consists of people of >many religions, I want to make the invocation appropriately general. >The group also includes atheists, of course, but I think I've mentioned >before that I am less concerned about including them -- for various >reasons that are perhaps not logical but that seem to make sense to me. >Re what I cannot seem to find, I'm ROFL. I find your presumptions >hilarious. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I think you are being very sensitive to your audience. Do what makes you comfortable, too. As VP can you suggest that this part be called something else in the future? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 09:02:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMF2w6q023985 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 09:02:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 77FDD1E60273; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:55:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 445EA1E601E3 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:55:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A556E0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 9:48:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 488036 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 09:48:40 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMEmd315612 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 09:48:39 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hAMEmbkF023146 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:48:37 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hAMEmbp8023144 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:48:37 +0100 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:48:37 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time Message-ID: <20031122144837.GA23131@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031121225139.00bbb620@pop.gwi.net> <3FBF6B3D.42FE782D@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FBF6B3D.42FE782D@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie, I like this one, mostly because it reminds me that my doing good can make the world a better place. Natalie Maynor: = bonniev wrote: = = > From http://www.indianchild.com/peace_prayers.htm = = I kind of like this one since it doesn't use the specific word "God," = thus leaving it more of an invocation of a general spirit of goodness: = = Baha'i Prayer for Peace = = Be generous in prosperity, = and thankful in adversity. = Be fair in judgement, = and guarded in thy speech, = Be a lamp unto those who walk = in darkness, and a home = to the stranger. = Be eyes to the blind, and a guiding light = unto the feet of the erring = Be a breath of life to the body of = humankind, a dew to the soil of = the human heart, = and a fruit upon the tree of humility. = From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 09:50:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMFoN6q024378 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 09:50:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DC2C11E601F6; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 09:43:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB39D1E60070 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 09:43:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5573B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:36:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 488886 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:36:04 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMFa4318385 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:36:04 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAMFZuQb004612 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 09:35:58 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002301c3b10e$5744efe0$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031122043716.26148.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <005501c3b0c4$8776e320$e1cadece@0018079268> Subject: Re: Re: It's Time Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 09:35:54 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Doris Markland wrote: > > >I do not believe in evil. I think all things that we > >think of as are the result of lack > >of understanding. If people knew better they > >would do better. They are just learning, and > >have a long ways to go. We all do. > > How far did Hitler have to go, Doris? > > Bethany Definite lack of understanding there. He has a long way to go. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 10:18:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMGI26q024765 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:18:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 746A71E60217; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:11:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4067D1E60214 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:11:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A55782@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:03:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 489325 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:03:44 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMG3h319788 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:03:43 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031122160336.JBRA1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:03:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBF88DC.87A7F43D@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:03:40 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <3FBE4A2A.10652.1D67DF7@localhost> <4.2.2.20031122063657.00a49320@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > I don't think Natalie is evil. Why, thank you! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 10:18:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMGIW6q024768 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:18:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 995A51E6020F; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:11:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A1B1E60209 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:11:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5578B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:04:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 489331 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:04:13 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMG4C319821 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:04:12 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031122160405.JBUH1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:04:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBF88F9.3EAA7C0C@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:04:09 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <20031122043716.26148.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20031122063851.00a63c70@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > That is too simple. I'm sure you can think of people who must have just > been born evil. I don't think that Bad Betty is evil. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 10:19:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMGJJ6q024772 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:19:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DFC171E60214; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:12:19 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA8A1E6020F for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:12:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55771@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:05:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 489335 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:05:00 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMG50319829 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:05:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031122160453.JCBZ1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:04:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBF8928.1395E44A@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:04:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <20031122041559.20273.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20031122064258.00a69b90@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > >night.) It's sort of like my blog. Instead of talking about my own > >thoughts, opinions, philosophy, I just give urls for columns etc. that > >say things better than I would say them. > > I'd rather read your words. I'd hate to belong to a list where everyone > just posted URLs or forwards. Lists to me are quite different from blogs. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 10:22:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMGME6q024801 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:22:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1936C1E60214; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:15:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCC951E60212 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:15:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F38AF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:07:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 489375 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:07:55 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMG7t319952 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:07:55 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAMG7seO005033 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:07:54 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAMG7ra2005023; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:07:53 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031122080957.00a457e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:10:07 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <3FBF88DC.87A7F43D@maynor.net> References: <3FBE4A2A.10652.1D67DF7@localhost> <4.2.2.20031122063657.00a49320@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:03 AM 11/22/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty wrote: > > > I don't think Natalie is evil. > >Why, thank you! I was just kidding. :-) BB From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 10:22:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMGMN6q024811 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:22:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B2D191E60214; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:15:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 823CE1E60212 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:15:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A55789@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:08:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 489379 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:08:04 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMG84319968 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:08:04 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031122160758.JCWZ1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:07:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBF89E0.6E12F06D@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:08:00 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031121225139.00bbb620@pop.gwi.net> <3FBF6B3D.42FE782D@maynor.net> <20031122144837.GA23131@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Top-posting now because I wanted to include the whole long thing, which would be a bit if bottom-posting -- I am definitely leaning toward simply reading this one. I agree with your thoughts on it. If something else comes along, I might go with it, but otherwise I think I'll go with this one -- that it will do fine. steph wrote: > Natalie, > > I like this one, mostly because it reminds me that my doing good > can make the world a better place. > > Natalie Maynor: > = bonniev wrote: > = > = > From http://www.indianchild.com/peace_prayers.htm > = > = I kind of like this one since it doesn't use the specific word "God," > = thus leaving it more of an invocation of a general spirit of goodness: > = > = Baha'i Prayer for Peace > = > = Be generous in prosperity, > = and thankful in adversity. > = Be fair in judgement, > = and guarded in thy speech, > = Be a lamp unto those who walk > = in darkness, and a home > = to the stranger. > = Be eyes to the blind, and a guiding light > = unto the feet of the erring > = Be a breath of life to the body of > = humankind, a dew to the soil of > = the human heart, > = and a fruit upon the tree of humility. > = -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 10:23:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMGNM6q024818 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:23:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A81371E60214; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:16:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76FA51E60212 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:16:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5578A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:09:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 489390 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:09:03 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMG92320007 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:09:03 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAMG912f031656 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:09:01 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAMG90JC031642; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:09:01 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031122081018.00a457a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:11:14 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <3FBF88F9.3EAA7C0C@maynor.net> References: <20031122043716.26148.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20031122063851.00a63c70@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:04 AM 11/22/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty wrote: > > > That is too simple. I'm sure you can think of people who must have just > > been born evil. > >I don't think that Bad Betty is evil. Why thank you. You may never hear from us again. We have just packed up the RV and heading for the Big Game in Stanford. We've never done this before and probably never will again but what the hell. Go, Bears! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 10:24:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMGON6q024823 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:24:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 368E01E6021E; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:17:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 064231E60217 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:17:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F38B5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:10:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 489413 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:10:04 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMGA2320059 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:10:02 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAMGA12f031985 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:10:01 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAMGA0JC031972; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:10:00 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031122081133.00a45b70@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:12:14 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <3FBF8928.1395E44A@maynor.net> References: <20031122041559.20273.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20031122064258.00a69b90@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:04 AM 11/22/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty wrote: > > > >night.) It's sort of like my blog. Instead of talking about my own > > >thoughts, opinions, philosophy, I just give urls for columns etc. that > > >say things better than I would say them. > > > > I'd rather read your words. I'd hate to belong to a list where everyone > > just posted URLs or forwards. > >Lists to me are quite different from blogs. Yes. I don't understand blogging a bunch of URLs though. BB From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 10:32:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMGWJ6q024895 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:32:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E492D1E6021E; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:25:19 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F331E60214 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:25:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55795@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:18:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 489643 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:18:00 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMGI0320568 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:18:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031122161754.JFHP1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:17:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBF8C34.25AF83B4@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:17:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <3FBEAD91.52379A3E@maynor.net> <3FBED1B3.3A78E8E3@maynor.net> <3FBED8CA.3D2CA3F6@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031122064527.00a61e80@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > As VP can you suggest that this part be called something > else in the future? There are other things I am more interested in changing -- like the name of the banquet, some of the songs used in the sing-along, etc. I questioned those things this year but quickly realized that the Pres thought they were fine. Next year I'll be Pres and plan to bring the matter to the board. Or maybe I'll bring it to the board sometime in the spring or summer, while I'm still VP. Invocations are pretty standard for events here, and many people have done good jobs at making them inclusive. My Jewish friend who sent me some examples of his invocations said that one of the best ones he's ever heard was one done by Father Mike at graduation a few years ago. Father Mike was the beloved Catholic priest who was here for years but has moved on now to another town/parish. He had gorgeous eyes. Hey, Bethany -- I was thinking while driving to the p.o. a little while ago that you might enjoy reading the book written by my former dept head about his entering the priesthood and later leaving it. The book is not well written. I was kind of surprised since his academic writing is fine. But I nevertheless enjoyed reading it. A large part of that was probably because of knowing him, but I think anybody interested in matters might enjoy it. It can be ordered here: http://www.1stbooks.com/ Put donaghy in the author box to find the info on the book. The name is _Vessels of Clay_. It's $12.50 for the printed/bound book -- plus postage. If you want the e-book instead, it's $3.95. (I'd send you my copy, but it's being passed around right now among various people, and I have no idea when I'll get it back.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 11:01:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMH1j6q025248 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:01:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D93141E60278; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:54:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A45271E60266 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:54:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A557F6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:47:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 490312 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:47:26 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMGlQ322499 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:47:26 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAMGl1sb027583 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:47:02 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:48:41 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1711098771.20031122104841@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: It's Time In-Reply-To: <20031122043716.26148.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031122043716.26148.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 21, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > If there is genuine evil in this world, as I believe > there is, sin is just as good a word to use as any > other I can think of, to describe the mode of > operation of that evilness. I think there is much sin in the world, but that very little of it is committed by those who are evil. One could argue that evildoers, in fact, don't sin at all. They are simply obeying their evil nature. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 11:22:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMHMU6q025415 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:22:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4C6611E60278; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:15:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BC961E60214 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:15:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F3963@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:08:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 490808 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:08:02 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMH82323974 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:08:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031122170756.NYIV6696.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:07:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBF97EE.6B19B09B@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:07:58 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Protest Organizers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Re the question raised a day or so ago about who the organizers were of the London protests -- I wasn't seeking info re who the organizers were, but I stumbled upon the following in my zipping through online news. The wording is a bit confusing -- the "this one was led by" suggests that Ron Kovic was the overall organizer, but note the plural in "organizers' figure" in the first sentence. Anyway, it's somewhat on the subject we were discussing: ********** Meanwhile, more than 110,000 people came out to protest against Bush on a Thursday afternoon (the organizers' figure is 200,000)--a demonstration second in size only to the February one that drew over a million. As the movement has grown, the Stop the War marches have come to feel like reunions: the same crisp placards in black, white and red, the same feeling of moral necessity, the same sense of a surprising variety of people. This one was led by Vietnam veteran Ron Kovic, who had been guest of honor the previous day at a peace party hosted by Mayor Ken Livingstone. ********** from: http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20031208&s=margaronis -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 11:24:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMHO16q025419 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:24:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 627551E60266; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:17:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31AAF1E60214 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:17:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55820@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:09:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 490882 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:09:41 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMH9f324102 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:09:41 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031122170936.NYTI6696.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:09:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBF9852.D834CF2@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:09:38 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <20031122043716.26148.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20031122063851.00a63c70@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031122081018.00a457a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > You may never hear from us again. We have just packed up the RV and heading > for the Big Game in Stanford. We've never done this before and probably > never will again but what the hell. I really have blocked fb from my brain! I first read this as being about a big-game reservation somewhere -- a place for safaris. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 11:26:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMHQC6q025461 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:26:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 10EF81E60266; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:19:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB5C71E60214 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:19:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5584A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:11:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 491011 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:11:53 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMHBr324274 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:11:53 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031122171148.NZHB6696.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:11:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBF98D6.B001C1EF@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:11:50 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <20031122041559.20273.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20031122064258.00a69b90@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031122081133.00a45b70@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > Yes. I don't understand blogging a bunch of URLs though. My first blog entry gave my reason for it: ************ I had not thought I would ever become a blogger. Somehow the idea seemed presumptuous or bumptious to me -- the idea that my thoughts would be interesting to strangers surfing the web. What changed my mind was thinking about how often I read news stories or other items online that I find interesting and want to pass along to other people. I've been doing that by e-mailing the urls to friends. It recently occurred to me, however, that I might also give the links in a blog, with enough description that other people interested in the topics might stumble upon my recommendations. So that is what this new blog is all about. ************ from: http://www.maynor.net/blog.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 11:45:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMHj36q025681 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:45:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A89531E60221; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:38:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF0FE1E6021A for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:38:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F39C6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:30:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 492301 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:30:40 -0500 Received: from flex.com (flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMHUe326314 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:30:40 -0500 Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAMHUGMV033354 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 07:30:25 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from mem@flex.com) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 07:30:23 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: It's Time Reply-To: mem@flex.com Message-ID: <3FBF108F.31759.13D7D7@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <4.2.2.20031122063748.00a75b30@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <004801c3b0c3$e18c85a0$e1cadece@0018079268> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-Flex-Prefilter-Spam-Score: 0 () X-Flex-Loose-Spamcheck: NO X-Flex-Scan: Flexnet Mimedefang/Clamd Virii Checker - PASSED - No Virus Found Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 22 Nov 2003 at 6:38, Betty wrote: > Yeah, yeah. Rub it in. All you're missing right now is rain, wind, and big surf. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 11:46:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMHkD6q025688 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:46:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9C6C61E60221; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:39:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B2751E6021A for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:39:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A558C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:31:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 492315 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:31:53 -0500 Received: from flex.com (flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMHVr326354 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:31:53 -0500 Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAMHVhMV034731 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 07:31:52 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from mem@flex.com) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 07:32:17 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: It's Time Reply-To: mem@flex.com Message-ID: <3FBF1101.23364.1595B8@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <4.2.2.20031122064258.00a69b90@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <3FBF6BDF.BD17857E@maynor.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-Flex-Prefilter-Spam-Score: 0 () X-Flex-Loose-Spamcheck: NO X-Flex-Scan: Flexnet Mimedefang/Clamd Virii Checker - PASSED - No Virus Found Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 22 Nov 2003 at 6:44, Betty wrote: > I'd rather read your words. I'd hate to belong to a list where > everyone just posted URLs or forwards. That would make a great invocation, wouldn't it? Benediction too. Just stand up and read off a few URLs. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 12:05:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMI5j6q025934 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:05:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2FAC01E6027B; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:58:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED5611E60279 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:58:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F3A0B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:51:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 492955 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:51:25 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMHpP327651 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:51:25 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAMHpP8b011421 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:51:25 -0500 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.102]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAMHpNfC027410 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:51:24 -0500 Message-ID: <007801c3b121$3f52e460$667a8083@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3FBEAD91.52379A3E@maynor.net> <013d01c3b092$90345b50$687a8083@awild4dj8f> <3FBEBD2A.E72225B@maynor.net> <016401c3b09a$6ea9a690$687a8083@awild4dj8f> <3FBEC33F.E1B7C0E@maynor.net> <019701c3b09f$220a60e0$687a8083@awild4dj8f> <3FBED02A.5217FBA5@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: It's Time Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:51:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" > And you know that's what's in their mind when they join? Exactly how do > you know that? (And I agree that we are parallel here in that I also > can't tell for sure why most people join. I am speaking from my > experience -- as in people I've known who have joined, including West > Point and AF Academy graduates, and from stories/interviews I've read.) Adventure... serving justice with lethal force... playing with the worlds greatest "toys"... all for a good cause. > ARF convention? We don't exactly have . The Association > of Retired Faculty have meetings several times a year and a xmas > banquet. I wouldn't call those conventions. And I don't think the > military has anything to do with it. oh, so that's what it was ;-) Well, I don't know you religious convictions, but how about then asking for a moment of silence for our soldiers at war? > You really, really, really don't . ok - you've got that right. I never wanted to start arguing with you Natalie. 'Great weather up here in the NorthEast. 'Hope you are enjoying your as much... William and I are off to the bike path to walk 8 miles or so and talk about why he needs to do better than a fucking zero (0) on the next 4th grade spelling test. 'Alan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 12:16:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMIGH6q026029 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:16:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5D3CE1E6027B; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:09:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27E171E60279 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:09:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F3A24@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 13:01:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 493248 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 13:01:57 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMI1v328424 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 13:01:57 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031122180152.RVEM14203.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 13:01:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBFA492.60DA943@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:01:54 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <3FBEAD91.52379A3E@maynor.net> <013d01c3b092$90345b50$687a8083@awild4dj8f> <3FBEBD2A.E72225B@maynor.net> <016401c3b09a$6ea9a690$687a8083@awild4dj8f> <3FBEC33F.E1B7C0E@maynor.net> <019701c3b09f$220a60e0$687a8083@awild4dj8f> <3FBED02A.5217FBA5@maynor.net> <007801c3b121$3f52e460$667a8083@awild4dj8f> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alan Wild wrote: > 'Great weather up here in the NorthEast. 'Hope you are enjoying your as > much... Yes. It is spectacularly beautiful today. I'm going to take Spencer out to the North Farm to run in a little while. It's a perfect day for it. I wonder how The White Dog is spending the day. He seems to be sleeping more and more. I continue to worry about him. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 12:17:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMIHt6q026043 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:17:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E183E1E6027C; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:10:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0F981E60279 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:10:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F3A28@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 13:03:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 493295 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 13:03:35 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMI3Z328542 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 13:03:35 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031122180330.RVNF14203.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 13:03:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBFA4F3.96E39A59@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:03:31 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Flaming Portapotties Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne -- Has portapottie arson struck Sylacauga yet? http://www.starkvilledailynews.com/articles/2003/11/22/news/news02.txt -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 14:06:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMK6Q6q027168 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:06:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 162741E6027D; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 13:59:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8DE91E6027A for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 13:59:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A55A4D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:52:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 495984 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:52:01 -0500 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMJq1302943 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:52:01 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.152.2732051d (3874) for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:51:54 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <152.2732051d.2cf11859@aol.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:51:53 EST Subject: Re: ER To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/21/2003 6:45:35 PM, Karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: >Sorry, nothing could induce me to watch that show. > >Karen > Ditto for me. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 14:48:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMKmg6q027675 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:48:42 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D99F61E6022D; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:41:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A98E31E6022A for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:41:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F3BD0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:34:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 496537 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:34:21 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMKOL304997 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:24:21 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAMKNBm9023885 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:23:25 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:24:06 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <002301c3b10e$5744efe0$e1cadece@0018079268> Message-ID: References: <20031122043716.26148.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <005501c3b0c4$8776e320$e1cadece@0018079268> <002301c3b10e$5744efe0$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Doris Markland wrote: >> How far did Hitler have to go, Doris? >> >> Bethany > >Definite lack of understanding there. >He has a long way to go. Understatement of the year? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 14:50:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMKoS6q027682 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:50:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0005E1E6027A; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:43:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF1841E6022D for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:43:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A55A9E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:36:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 496749 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:36:04 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMKa3305657 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:36:03 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAMKZsQb018503 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:35:57 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Dear God . . Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:35:53 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hAMKoS6q027682 Saw a book in the bookstore titled "Christian Prayer for Dummies." Does this strike anyone else as funny? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 14:51:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMKp66q027706 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:51:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B0B671E6022D; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:44:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E7351E6022A for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:44:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F3BD9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:36:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 496559 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:36:46 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMKQk305085 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:26:46 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAMKPom9027424 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:25:50 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:26:46 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <3FBF8C34.25AF83B4@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FBEAD91.52379A3E@maynor.net> <3FBED1B3.3A78E8E3@maynor.net> <3FBED8CA.3D2CA3F6@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031122064527.00a61e80@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FBF8C34.25AF83B4@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Hey, Bethany -- I was thinking while driving to the p.o. a little while >ago that you might enjoy reading the book written by my former dept head >about his entering the priesthood and later leaving it. The book is not What brand was he? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 15:07:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAML7R6q027951 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:07:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CECE51E6022E; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:00:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DC121E6022D for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:00:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A55AD1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:53:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 497116 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:53:06 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMKh6306342 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:43:06 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAMKg4m9015758 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:42:09 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:43:00 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dear God . . In-Reply-To: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> Message-ID: References: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Doris Markland wrote: >Saw a book in the bookstore > >titled "Christian Prayer for Dummies." > >Does this strike anyone else as funny? Not me. In fact, just this week, there was an extended and informative discussion on Anglican about ways to Morning Prayer and Evening Prayer. Many people know nothing about the daily offices. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 15:31:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMLVO6q028311 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:31:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1E1FC1E6022D; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:24:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDC991E600C8 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:24:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A55AFC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:17:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 497634 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:17:03 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAML73307891 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:07:03 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAML67m9002673 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:06:07 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:07:03 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <3FBF8C34.25AF83B4@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FBEAD91.52379A3E@maynor.net> <3FBED1B3.3A78E8E3@maynor.net> <3FBED8CA.3D2CA3F6@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031122064527.00a61e80@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FBF8C34.25AF83B4@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >http://www.1stbooks.com/ > >Put donaghy in the author box to find the info on the book. The name is >_Vessels of Clay_. I have ordered it via ILL. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 15:45:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMLjS6q028545 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:45:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CDE8B1E600CD; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:38:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D68B1E600C8 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:38:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A55B29@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:31:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 498092 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:31:07 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMLV7309496 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:31:07 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031122213101.ZBNI1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:31:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBFD597.5650E3DA@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:31:03 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <3FBEAD91.52379A3E@maynor.net> <3FBED1B3.3A78E8E3@maynor.net> <3FBED8CA.3D2CA3F6@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031122064527.00a61e80@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FBF8C34.25AF83B4@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >Hey, Bethany -- I was thinking while driving to the p.o. a little while > >ago that you might enjoy reading the book written by my former dept head > >about his entering the priesthood and later leaving it. The book is not > > What brand was he? Not Jesuit. He thought about that but decided it took too long. I'm trying to remember the name of what he was -- is there something like "Holy Cross"? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 15:45:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMLjb6q028548 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:45:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 721461E600CD; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:38:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 416E91E600C8 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:38:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A55B2A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:31:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 497891 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:31:17 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMLLG308795 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:21:16 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAMLKKm9021712 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:20:20 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:21:16 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <3FBF6EB1.783A4828@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FBEAD91.52379A3E@maynor.net> <3FBED1B3.3A78E8E3@maynor.net> <3FBED8CA.3D2CA3F6@maynor.net> <3FBF6EB1.783A4828@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> I do not recall posting about . For my edification, please cite one >> that I have posted. > >Vow of celibacy. Oh - so you mean that no individual should make any personal commitments about a way of life? Interesting ... I thought you meant that I had announced rules for the world. I am certain you would not understand that my pattern of life (including, but not limited to intentional and committed celibacy) is one of the ways I live out my spiritual commitment. I believe, though, that you made vows at some point in your life. Does that mean that you are not spiritual? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 15:46:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMLk86q028554 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:46:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4F5861E6022D; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:39:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CBEB1E600CD for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:39:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A55B2B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:31:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 498103 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:31:47 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMLVl309516 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:31:47 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031122213142.ZBSF1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:31:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBFD5C0.4F6307E4@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:31:44 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dear God . . References: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > informative discussion on Anglican about ways to Morning Prayer and > Evening Prayer. Many people know nothing about the daily offices. Rules. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 15:47:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMLlv6q028560 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:47:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EAE0D1E6022D; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:40:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B267F1E600CD for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:40:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A55B24@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:33:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 498121 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:33:36 -0500 Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (imo-r05.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMLXa309595 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:33:36 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.4d.37e8d5a2 (3874) for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:33:28 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <4d.37e8d5a2.2cf13027@aol.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:33:27 EST Subject: Re: It's Time To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/21/2003 8:55:58 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >But please don't go trying to >convince me to . I am not in favor of killing thousands >of innocent people so that my fellow Americans can drive their >gas-guzzlers ------------- I don't always agree with you Natalie, but DO on this one! And I can tell you why they stay in, too. (was married to one) It's for their retirement money!!So now you know, you skeptics.... Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 15:47:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMLlv6q028563 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:47:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 365D21E6022D; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:40:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 064D51E600CD for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:40:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A55B2D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:33:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 497940 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:33:36 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMLNa309012 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:23:36 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAMLMem9025569 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:22:40 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:23:36 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <3FBF6EB1.783A4828@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FBEAD91.52379A3E@maynor.net> <3FBED1B3.3A78E8E3@maynor.net> <3FBED8CA.3D2CA3F6@maynor.net> <3FBF6EB1.783A4828@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Huh? I've said nothing about what does or doesn't . In your >particular church you can use that church's (that religion's) specific >trappings -- specific metaphors. Since this group consists of people of >many religions, I want to make the invocation appropriately general. Well, in order to invoke, one must invoke some entity. I am surprised that you are willing to invoke. (And many of us do not invoke .) >Re what I cannot seem to find, I'm ROFL. I find your presumptions >hilarious. Oh - then please tell us about the that you have found. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 15:48:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMLmr6q028582 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:48:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5A43B1E6022E; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:41:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 293911E6022D for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:41:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55B1A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:34:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 498172 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:34:32 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMLYW309676 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:34:32 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031122213427.ZCLJ1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:34:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBFD665.B3026FDB@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:34:29 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <3FBEAD91.52379A3E@maynor.net> <3FBED1B3.3A78E8E3@maynor.net> <3FBED8CA.3D2CA3F6@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031122064527.00a61e80@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FBF8C34.25AF83B4@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >http://www.1stbooks.com/ > > > >Put donaghy in the author box to find the info on the book. The name is > >_Vessels of Clay_. > > I have ordered it via ILL. I'm very surprised that a library would have it. It became available just a couple of weeks ago, is from a self-publishing kind of place, is supposedly printed/bound at the time somebody orders one -- iow, to fulfill that specific order, is very short (almost a long essay instead of a book), etc. etc. Iow, it's not really a book. Do you know what library your ILL is getting it from? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 15:52:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMLqm6q028610 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:52:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2377C1E6022D; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:45:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E37461E60220 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:45:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A55B38@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:38:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 498276 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:38:27 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMLcR310003 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:38:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031122213822.ZDKP1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:38:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBFD750.645B7B63@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:38:24 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <3FBEAD91.52379A3E@maynor.net> <3FBED1B3.3A78E8E3@maynor.net> <3FBED8CA.3D2CA3F6@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031122064527.00a61e80@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FBF8C34.25AF83B4@maynor.net> <3FBFD665.B3026FDB@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just discovered via googling that the name "Vessels of Clay" was also used for what was apparently a short story he wrote not long before retiring: http://www.ur.msstate.edu/news/stories/1996/donaghy.asp -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 15:58:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMLwA6q028728 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:58:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C1CE31E60235; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:51:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90BD71E60234 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:51:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A55B3F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:43:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 498356 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:43:49 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMLhn310273 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:43:49 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031122214343.ZEYO1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:43:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBFD891.9B393E26@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:43:45 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <3FBEAD91.52379A3E@maynor.net> <3FBED1B3.3A78E8E3@maynor.net> <3FBED8CA.3D2CA3F6@maynor.net> <3FBF6EB1.783A4828@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >> I do not recall posting about . For my edification, please cite one > >> that I have posted. > > > >Vow of celibacy. > > Oh - so you mean that no individual should make any personal commitments > about a way of life? Interesting ... I thought you meant that I had > announced rules for the world. No, I said nothing about your announcing rules for the world. And why do you think I mean that no individual should make any personal commitments about a way of life??? I have said nothing at all about what one should or shouldn't do. I just said that you seem to be more into rules than into spirituality. > > I am certain you would not understand that my pattern of life (including, > but not limited to intentional and committed celibacy) is one of the ways > I live out my spiritual commitment. No, I don't understand. When you have to be instructed in how to praying, I'd say it's about rules. I also don't think "commitment" is related to spirituality, though it is not necessarily in conflict with it -- iow, one can be committed and also be spiritual. > I believe, though, that you made vows at some point in your life. Does > that mean that you are not spiritual? ??? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 16:00:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMM0D6q028755 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:00:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B332E1E60235; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:53:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E71F1E6022E for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:53:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F3C6C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:45:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 498412 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:45:52 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMLjp310393 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:45:51 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAMLitUh014968 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:44:59 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:46:14 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <885621251.20031122154614@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: ER In-Reply-To: <200311220756.hAM7uD327666@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200311220756.hAM7uD327666@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 22, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:22:57 -0500, Karen Kay wrote: >>On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:08:18 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander >>wrote: >>>Karen, it's a rare day when I disagree with you, but I'm with Evelyn on >>>this one. Romano's first "human" moment was when he operated on his dog; >> >>I found that uncomfortable, odd, and un-understandable. > Well, it was clear that he loved the dog and that it mattered to him at least > as much as his patients. Exactly. > It was written in, I think, to emphasize the level > of alienation his character felt from other people. Sure. I am convinced that he works in the ER to show his expertise, not because of love of his patients. (Speaking of which, is Carter off the show permanently, or is he coming back.) >>>he clearly was in love with Alex Kingston's character; >>I don't think so. I think there was a strange attraction, but I don't think >>he can love. (I love how unjudgmental I am!) > I love it too! But seriously, we each of us love in the inadequate ways that > we're individually capable of, and he did sincerely love her. I love this sentence, "the inadequate ways we're individually capable of". > He was jealous > of Mark, but he came through it and wished her happy, with a lot of cost to > himself. And he was very supportive when Mark was dying. >>>and he does lots >>>of little behind the scenes kind stuff without (apparently) viewers >>>realizing it. >> >>Example? > see above. I remain unconvinced. >>>btw, does anyone see a Moby Dick connection (or Peter Pan crocodile >>> connection) to that helicopter, coming after Romano after getting his >>>arm first? >> >>LOL. That hadn't occurred to me (actually, I was on the phone during most >>of the show, so I didn't really watch it), but I feel quite sure that it is >>there deliberately. This is funny. (I did tape it, though, so I'll watch it >>later.) > Well, given that the whole reason he was down there was that he had a > flashback to the rotor taking his arm in the first place. > It came back in a sense for the rest. I'll watch the show some time this weekend. Right now I have to go buy contact lens solution, and then to the library. Btw, the you-know-what is finished; I just need to sew it together. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 16:00:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMM0h6q028758 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:00:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E04EB1E60235; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:53:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFA6E1E6022E for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:53:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55B33@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:46:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 498421 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:46:22 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMLkM310438 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:46:22 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031122214617.ZFSH1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:46:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBFD92A.E36BD3AA@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:46:18 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <3FBEAD91.52379A3E@maynor.net> <3FBED1B3.3A78E8E3@maynor.net> <3FBED8CA.3D2CA3F6@maynor.net> <3FBF6EB1.783A4828@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Well, in order to invoke, one must invoke some entity. I am surprised that > you are willing to invoke. (And many of us do not invoke .) Exactly. As I said earlier, at least fairly inclusive invocations aren't all that unusual. > > >Re what I cannot seem to find, I'm ROFL. I find your presumptions > >hilarious. > > Oh - then please tell us about the that you have found. "I am certain you would not understand." (from your earlier posting) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 16:00:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMM0o6q028761 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:00:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 72E631E6022E; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:53:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 435851E60234 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:53:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A55B4E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:46:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 498260 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:46:28 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMLaR309859 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:36:27 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAMLZUm9010987 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:35:31 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:36:25 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <3FBFD597.5650E3DA@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FBEAD91.52379A3E@maynor.net> <3FBED1B3.3A78E8E3@maynor.net> <3FBED8CA.3D2CA3F6@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031122064527.00a61e80@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FBF8C34.25AF83B4@maynor.net> <3FBFD597.5650E3DA@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> What brand was he? > >Not Jesuit. He thought about that but decided it took too long. I'm >trying to remember the name of what he was -- is there something like >"Holy Cross"? Was he RC? Orthodox? Anglican? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 16:01:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMM1T6q028774 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:01:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B6DD01E60235; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:54:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8675F1E60234 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:54:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55B35@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:47:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 498264 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:47:08 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMLb8309920 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:37:08 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAMLaCm9012183 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:36:12 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:37:08 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dear God . . In-Reply-To: <3FBFD5C0.4F6307E4@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FBFD5C0.4F6307E4@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> informative discussion on Anglican about ways to Morning Prayer and >> Evening Prayer. Many people know nothing about the daily offices. > >Rules. Huh? Is a noun or verb? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 16:03:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMM3n6q028788 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:03:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4FA7E1E60235; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:56:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 186311E60234 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:56:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55B3B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:49:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 498484 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:49:28 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMLnS310660 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:49:28 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAMLnPiM022168 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:49:26 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:50:45 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <910216825.20031122155045@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Dear God . . In-Reply-To: References: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FBFD5C0.4F6307E4@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 22, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>> informative discussion on Anglican about ways to Morning Prayer and >>> Evening Prayer. Many people know nothing about the daily offices. >> >>Rules. > Huh? Is a noun or verb? A noun. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 16:03:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMM3u6q028792 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:03:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 30DC31E60235; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:56:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 014E31E60234 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:56:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A55B57@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:49:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 498297 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:49:31 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMLdV310065 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:39:31 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAMLcZm9014981 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:38:35 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:39:31 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <3FBFD665.B3026FDB@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FBEAD91.52379A3E@maynor.net> <3FBED1B3.3A78E8E3@maynor.net> <3FBED8CA.3D2CA3F6@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031122064527.00a61e80@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FBF8C34.25AF83B4@maynor.net> <3FBFD665.B3026FDB@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I'm very surprised that a library would have it. It became available >just a couple of weeks ago, is from a self-publishing kind of place, is >supposedly printed/bound at the time somebody orders one -- iow, to >fulfill that specific order, is very short (almost a long essay instead >of a book), etc. etc. Iow, it's not really a book. Do you know >what library your ILL is getting it from? Now you tell me! Of course I don't know - they will have to search for it first. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 16:04:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMM4n6q028812 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:04:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6DE581E6022E; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:57:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E6BB1E60234 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:57:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F3C7C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:50:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 498527 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:50:27 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMLoR310738 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:50:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031122215022.ZGUE1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:50:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBFDA20.60231F8F@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:50:24 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <4d.37e8d5a2.2cf13027@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > And I can tell you > why they stay in, too. (was married to one) It's for their retirement > money!!So now you know, you skeptics.... I think it is highly unlikely that all people in any large organization do things for the same reason. Your husband might have stayed in for that reason, but I feel sure that others have done it / are doing it for different reasons. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 16:05:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMM5O6q028819 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:05:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 791C71E60236; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:58:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 487DE1E60235 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:58:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A55B52@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:51:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 498538 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:51:02 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMLp2310765 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:51:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031122215057.ZGXT1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:50:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBFDA43.86D23664@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:50:59 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <3FBEAD91.52379A3E@maynor.net> <3FBED1B3.3A78E8E3@maynor.net> <3FBED8CA.3D2CA3F6@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031122064527.00a61e80@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FBF8C34.25AF83B4@maynor.net> <3FBFD597.5650E3DA@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Was he RC? Orthodox? Anglican? RC. I thought I had mentioned that earlier. Maybe not. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 16:39:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMMd06q029200 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:39:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1C39F1E601CB; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:31:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E031B1E600CD for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:31:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A55C3A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:24:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 500501 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:24:39 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAMMOd313073 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:24:39 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:24:34 PST Message-ID: <20031122222434.38917.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:24:34 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: It's Time To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031122063748.00a75b30@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Betty wrote: > >Mem, you do indeed show up here > >now and then. > > > >You know I will be over there soooooon. > > > >Well, not soon enough. > > Yeah, yeah. Rub it in. Is your son still home, > Doris? And is Sarah is India? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 16:41:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMMfq6q029215 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:41:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CA7661E60234; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:34:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96A4F1E600CD for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:34:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55C2B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:27:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 500539 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:27:31 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAMMRV313238 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:27:31 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:27:25 PST Message-ID: <20031122222725.6289.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:27:25 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: It's Time To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FBF88DC.87A7F43D@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Betty wrote: > > > I don't think Natalie is evil. > > Why, thank you! Now where in the sam hill did Bethany get the idea anyone called Natalie evil? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 16:44:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMMi56q029223 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:44:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D43471E60236; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:37:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A5541E60234 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:37:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55C2C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:29:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 500553 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:29:44 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAMMTi313290 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:29:44 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:29:38 PST Message-ID: <20031122222939.50988.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:29:38 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: It's Time To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FBF88F9.3EAA7C0C@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > I don't think that Bad Betty is evil. > This is getting out of hand. We should just begin a list of people we DO consider evil. It shouldn't take up much space. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 16:50:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMMoS6q029302 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:50:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 52F9E1E60233; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:43:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F9251E6021B for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:43:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A55C4E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:36:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 500629 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:36:06 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAMMa6313621 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:36:06 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:35:35 PST Message-ID: <20031122223535.59304.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:35:35 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: It's Time To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1711098771.20031122104841@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > I think there is much sin in the world, but that > very little of it is > committed by those who are evil. > > One could argue that evildoers, in fact, don't sin > at all. They are > simply obeying their evil nature. So, in your view, do evil-doers differ from sinners? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 16:54:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMMsJ6q029337 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:54:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3C8A71E60233; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:47:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF171E6021B for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:47:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A55C4E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:39:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 500706 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:39:57 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMMdv313826 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:39:57 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-148.gwi.net [216.195.150.148]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAMMdrGp053669; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:39:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031122173728.00b1ab68@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:38:21 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Dear God . . In-Reply-To: <3FBFD5C0.4F6307E4@maynor.net> References: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:31 PM 11/22/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > > informative discussion on Anglican about ways to Morning Prayer and > > Evening Prayer. Many people know nothing about the daily offices. > >Rules. Hey, it can't be a religion without rules. That's what religion is all about. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 16:57:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMMv36q029396 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:57:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7FA551E60233; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:50:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FDA51E6021B for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:50:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55C40@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:42:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 500743 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:42:42 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAMMgf313974 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:42:41 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:42:36 PST Message-ID: <20031122224236.86915.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:42:36 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: It's Time To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <007801c3b121$3f52e460$667a8083@awild4dj8f> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Alan Wild wrote: William and I are off to the bike path to > walk 8 miles or so and > talk about why he needs to do better than a fucking > zero (0) on the next 4th > grade spelling test. I really am curious, now. Did he refuse to participate in the spelling test? I mean, is getting "0" some form of rebellion? Or does William just not care for words? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 16:57:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMMvm6q029417 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:57:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DEEC11E60233; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:50:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF8AE1E6021B for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:50:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55C41@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:43:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 500752 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:43:27 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMMhR314009 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:43:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031122224321.RDLJ6696.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:43:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBFE68B.FBEA4BF4@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:43:23 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Orange Roughy from Namibia! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I was pulling out some orange roughy to thaw and remembered that I hadn't remembered to report to Alec that he doesn't have to come nurse me through the SARS that I thought I might catch from the Chinese orange roughy. I looked on this package and couldn't find anything about China. I finally found "product of Namibia." So will we eat fresh orange roughy on our trip? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 16:58:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMMwR6q029422 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:58:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AB3201E60233; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:51:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34E4D1E6021B for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:51:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55C42@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:44:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 500758 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:44:05 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMMi5314037 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:44:05 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031122224400.RDPJ6696.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:44:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBFE6B2.817083F9@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:44:02 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dear God . . References: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FBFD5C0.4F6307E4@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >> informative discussion on Anglican about ways to Morning Prayer and > >> Evening Prayer. Many people know nothing about the daily offices. > > > >Rules. > > Huh? Is a noun or verb? A noun in this context. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 17:00:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMN0e6q029443 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:00:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4AD781E6027A; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:53:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AE991E60234 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:53:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A55C5B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:46:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 500817 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:46:18 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMMkI314181 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:46:18 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031122224613.REGH6696.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:46:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBFE737.C0169F40@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:46:15 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <3FBEAD91.52379A3E@maynor.net> <3FBED1B3.3A78E8E3@maynor.net> <3FBED8CA.3D2CA3F6@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031122064527.00a61e80@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FBF8C34.25AF83B4@maynor.net> <3FBFD665.B3026FDB@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Now you tell me! Of course I don't know - they will have to search for > it first. I normally search first for a book before turning in an ILL request. That way I can give them some tips to expedite their search. I did mention earlier that it was a memoir written for his children and that somebody suggested he make it available for other people to read. So that's why he did it. He did not write it for purposes of fame or fortune. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 17:01:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMN1Q6q029499 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:01:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 582491E60231; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:54:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 260A91E601E2 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:54:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55C4A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:47:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 500835 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:47:04 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMMl4314242 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:47:04 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031122224659.RELE6696.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:46:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBFE765.A36AFE97@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:47:01 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <20031122222939.50988.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > > I don't think that Bad Betty is evil. > > > This is getting out of hand. We should just begin a We need to discuss bad vs evil. Bad Betty is very bad. But she is not evil. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 17:01:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMN1a6q029502 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:01:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A28301E60231; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:54:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AEFE1E601E2 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:54:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F3D81@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:47:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 500661 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:47:14 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMMbE313721 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:37:14 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAMMaGm9017665 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:36:18 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:37:12 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <20031122222725.6289.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031122222725.6289.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >Now where in the sam hill did Bethany get the idea >anyone called Natalie evil? She didn't - and made no such statement. But she did notice that Natalie announced last night that anyone who likes to drive a gas-guzzler or have a water/ice dispenser is in effect killing people. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 17:02:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMN2f6q029517 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:02:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 483171E60234; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:55:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16A9B1E60231 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:55:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A55C66@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:48:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 500848 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:48:19 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMMmJ314276 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:48:19 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031122224814.RETF6696.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:48:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBFE7B0.A79200E3@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:48:16 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <20031122223535.59304.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > --- Karen Kay wrote: > > I think there is much sin in the world, but that > > very little of it is > > committed by those who are evil. > > > > One could argue that evildoers, in fact, don't sin > > at all. They are > > simply obeying their evil nature. > > So, in your view, do evil-doers differ from sinners? "Sin" is a church-related term, isn't it? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 17:02:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMN2k6q029520 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:02:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1CC5F1E60234; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:55:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E02A21E601E2 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:55:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55C4C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:48:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 500852 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:48:24 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAMMmO314280 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:48:24 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:48:19 PST Message-ID: <20031122224819.45253.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:48:19 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Flaming Portapotties To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FBFA4F3.96E39A59@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Lynne -- Has portapottie arson struck Sylacauga yet? > > http://www.starkvilledailynews.com/articles/2003/11/22/news/news02.txt Not to my knowledge, and we have several large construction projects under way, including an expensively renovated library, which opens Dec. 1. It is only a matter of time, however, before these idiot-transmitted pranks make the rounds. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 17:04:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMN4r6q029564 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:04:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B510D1E60231; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:57:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84D401E601E2 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:57:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A55C68@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:50:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 500870 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:50:32 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMMoV314358 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:50:32 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031122225026.RFJK6696.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:50:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBFE834.C420EFFE@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:50:28 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dear God . . References: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031122173728.00b1ab68@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > > At 03:31 PM 11/22/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > > > > informative discussion on Anglican about ways to Morning Prayer and > > > Evening Prayer. Many people know nothing about the daily offices. > > > >Rules. > > Hey, it can't be a religion without rules. That's what religion is all about. Sort of. Defining "religion" is difficult, imho. And if religion means only organized religions, then we wouldn't need the phrase "organized religion." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 17:05:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMN5x6q029610 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:05:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 403EB1E60234; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:58:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FF5F1E60231 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:58:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55C4E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:51:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 500878 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:51:37 -0500 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMMpb314391 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:51:37 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.184.238ebc61 (4206) for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:51:26 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <184.238ebc61.2cf1426e@aol.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:51:26 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] ER To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/22/2003 3:46:16 PM Central Standard Time, Karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: << I am convinced that he works in the ER to show his expertise, not because of love of his patients. (Speaking of which, is Carter off the show permanently, or is he coming back.) >> No, he's coming back. Noah Wyle wanted to spend some time with his family. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 17:07:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMN7k6q029626 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:07:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 86A011E60234; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:00:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 574761E601E2 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:00:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55C50@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:53:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 500899 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:53:25 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAMMrO314468 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:53:24 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:53:19 PST Message-ID: <20031122225319.63996.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:53:19 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Dear God . . To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" > Huh? Is a noun or verb? Rules rule! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 17:09:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMN9w6q029687 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:09:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 799F51E60236; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:02:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C991E601E2 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:02:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A55C6C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:55:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 500908 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:55:36 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMMta314590 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:55:36 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031122225531.RGTE6696.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:55:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBFE965.5DAD18AC@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:55:33 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <20031122222725.6289.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > She didn't - and made no such statement. But she did notice that Natalie > announced last night that anyone who likes to drive a gas-guzzler or have > a water/ice dispenser is in effect killing people. Nope. That's not the only reason for Dubya's war. There are various reasons for it. My mention of oil was in response to Alan's mention of food. I don't see this war as having anything to do with providing food for Alan's children (hmmm -- maybe he moonlights for Haliburton or some other such outfit, in which case the war will indeed buy fine steaks for the family). I do think it has something to do with oil. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 17:10:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMNAp6q029708 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:10:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BC4081E6023F; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:03:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87FCC1E6023C for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:03:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F3D5E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:56:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 500923 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:56:29 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMMuS314629 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:56:28 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAMMuPQb029837 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:56:26 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000a01c3b14b$e83a3c20$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3FBED02A.5217FBA5@maynor.net> <3FBE4A2A.10652.1D67DF7@localhost> <4.2.2.20031122063748.00a75b30@uclink.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: Re: It's Time Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:56:42 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Mem, you do indeed show up here > >now and then. > > > >You know I will be over there soooooon. > > > >Well, not soon enough. > > Yeah, yeah. Rub it in. Is your son still home, Doris? > > Betty Yes he's home and back to work at the base, for now. We are going to Florida tomorrow to be with him and his family for Thanksgiving. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 17:12:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMNCd6q029738 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:12:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7F0F71E60236; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:05:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B1031E601E2 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:05:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55C5D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:58:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 500988 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:58:17 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAMMwH314841 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:58:17 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:58:12 PST Message-ID: <20031122225812.48743.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:58:12 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: ER To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <885621251.20031122154614@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > Btw, the you-know-what is finished; I just need to > sew it together. 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 17:14:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMNEx6q029761 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:14:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 099AA1E60236; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:07:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE9AE1E601E2 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:07:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A55C7A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:00:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 501105 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:00:31 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMN0V315292 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:00:31 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-148.gwi.net [216.195.150.148]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAMN0RGp057393; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:00:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031122175305.00b4c240@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:53:43 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <20031122224236.86915.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> References: <007801c3b121$3f52e460$667a8083@awild4dj8f> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:42 PM 11/22/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Alan Wild wrote: >William and I are off to the bike path to > > walk 8 miles or so and > > talk about why he needs to do better than a fucking > > zero (0) on the next 4th > > grade spelling test. > > >I really am curious, now. Did he refuse to >participate in the spelling test? I mean, is getting >"0" some form of rebellion? Or does William just not >care for words? Perhaps he is studying the Bethany Dumas Spelling Handbook. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 17:15:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMNFC6q029766 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:15:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 00BF51E60236; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:08:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3CC51E601E2 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:08:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F3D67@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:00:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 501129 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:00:50 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMN0o315358 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:00:50 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031122230044.RIHI6696.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:00:44 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBFEA9E.AE1E2077@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:00:46 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <3FBED02A.5217FBA5@maynor.net> <3FBE4A2A.10652.1D67DF7@localhost> <4.2.2.20031122063748.00a75b30@uclink.berkeley.edu> <000a01c3b14b$e83a3c20$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > We are going to Florida tomorrow to be with > him and his family for Thanksgiving. Will either of your other children be there also? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 17:15:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMNFY6q029769 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:15:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E618A1E6023C; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:08:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B17B61E60236 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:08:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55C69@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:01:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 501145 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:01:13 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMN1C315439 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:01:13 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-184-130.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.184.130]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAMN1Bk0013093 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:01:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FBFEA6A.7080302@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:59:54 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dear God . . References: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Doris Markland wrote: > > >>Saw a book in the bookstore >> >>titled "Christian Prayer for Dummies." >> >>Does this strike anyone else as funny? >> > > Not me. In fact, just this week, there was an extended and > informative discussion on Anglican about ways to Morning Prayer and > Evening Prayer. Many people know nothing about the daily offices. I really don't feel I need to know anything about the offices to know how to pray. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 17:20:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMNKZ6q029844 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:20:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 45C7C1E6023F; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:13:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12F0F1E6023E for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:13:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A55C7F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:06:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 501192 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:06:13 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMN6D315724 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:06:13 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-184-130.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.184.130]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAMN6Ck0021405 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:06:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FBFEB97.8020301@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:04:55 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <20031122224236.86915.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Alan Wild wrote: > William and I are off to the bike path to > >>walk 8 miles or so and >>talk about why he needs to do better than a fucking >>zero (0) on the next 4th >>grade spelling test. >> > > > I really am curious, now. Did he refuse to > participate in the spelling test? I mean, is getting > "0" some form of rebellion? Or does William just not > care for words? Poor Will. Ana is a lousy speller, too. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 17:27:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMNR06q029932 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:27:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4E5F91E6023E; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:19:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19B011E6023C for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:19:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A55C8D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:12:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 501290 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:12:38 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAMNCc316103 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:12:38 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:12:33 PST Message-ID: <20031122231233.52598.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:12:33 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: It's Time To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > She didn't - and made no such statement. But she did > notice that Natalie > announced last night that anyone who likes to drive > a gas-guzzler or have > a water/ice dispenser is in effect killing people. I understand there are proponents of the water/ice dispenser killing theory in large numbers in the Pacific Northwest. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 17:28:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMNSQ6q029943 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:28:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7748E1E6023F; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:21:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F3D1E6023E for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:21:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A55CCF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:14:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 501811 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:14:05 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAMNE4316326 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:14:04 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:13:59 PST Message-ID: <20031122231359.99221.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:13:59 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Orange Roughy from Namibia! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FBFE68B.FBEA4BF4@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: I finally found "product of Namibia." So > will we eat fresh > orange roughy on our trip? This, in itself, would be worth the trip! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 17:29:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMNTY6q029957 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:29:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 620A21E6023E; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:22:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32A521E6023C for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:22:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55CC0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:15:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 501881 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:15:12 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMNFC316495 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:15:12 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAMNF9Qb014348 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:15:11 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001d01c3b14e$866901e0$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031122043716.26148.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20031122063851.00a63c70@uclink.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: Re: It's Time Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:15:27 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > That is too simple. I'm sure you can think of people who must have just > been born evil. > > Betty My dear, IMHO if someone evil from the beginning . . . this maybe wasn't their beginning . . they've learned the behavior somewhere. Or, on the other hand, maybe it really is their beginning and they're still in kindergarten. We are the result of all we have learned thru experience (and all we have failed to learn, no doubt). I happen to feel we get more than one opportunity to enroll in this school, and it could be, you know, that some are held back from time to time and not promoted to the next grade until they learn certain things, so we see them making the same mistakes over and over. And some pay attention a little better and just move right along. If this makes no sense to anyone, that's quite all right. I've been shopping all afternoon and I hate to shop. It's exhausting and does not prepare me to answer emails sensibly. I'm supposed to be packing for my trip, and a freezing rain is falling to be followed by snow and we wonder if we can drive to Omaha to the airport tomorrow. Perhaps I should check my karma gauge. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 17:32:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMNWT6q029989 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:32:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1FB951E6023F; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:25:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E27891E6027A for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:25:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55CC6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:18:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 501979 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:18:07 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAMNI7316821 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:18:07 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:18:01 PST Message-ID: <20031122231801.63383.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:18:01 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: It's Time To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031122175305.00b4c240@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > Perhaps he is studying the Bethany Dumas Spelling > Handbook. I knew there was an obvious explanation. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 17:35:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMNZ46q030011 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:35:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 67C2A1E6023E; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:28:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A631E6023C for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:28:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A55CDB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:20:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 502014 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:20:42 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMNKg316973 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:20:42 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-184-130.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.184.130]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAMNKf9u028753 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:20:41 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FBFEEFC.3040303@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:19:24 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <20031122043716.26148.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20031122063851.00a63c70@uclink.berkeley.edu> <001d01c3b14e$866901e0$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris would make Rousseau very, very proud. Doris Markland wrote: >>That is too simple. I'm sure you can think of people who must have >> > just > >>been born evil. >> >>Betty >> > > My dear, IMHO if someone evil from > the beginning . . . this maybe wasn't their beginning > . . they've learned the behavior somewhere. > Or, on the other hand, maybe it really is their > beginning and they're still in kindergarten. > > We are the result of all we have learned thru > experience (and all we have failed to learn, no > doubt). I happen to feel we get more than one > opportunity to enroll in this school, and it could > be, you know, that some are held back from time > to time and not promoted to the next grade until > they learn certain things, so we see them > making the same mistakes over and over. > And some pay attention a little better and just > move right along. > > If this makes no sense to anyone, that's quite > all right. I've been shopping all afternoon and I > hate to shop. It's exhausting and does not prepare > me to answer emails sensibly. I'm supposed to > be packing for my trip, and a freezing rain is > falling to be followed by snow and we wonder if > we can drive to Omaha to the airport tomorrow. > Perhaps I should check my karma gauge. > > - D. M. > > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 17:35:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMNZZ6q030023 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:35:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C10E51E6023F; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:28:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9152D1E6023E for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:28:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A55CDD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:21:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 502036 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:21:14 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAMNLE317020 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:21:14 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:21:08 PST Message-ID: <20031122232108.54744.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:21:08 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Dear God . . To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FBFEA6A.7080302@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Rita Chapman wrote: Rita, this may have nothing to do with William's spelling difficulties, but my Yahoo spell checker insists on changing your address to "Sowbelly". __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 17:39:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMNdL6q030063 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:39:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 57D9D1E6023E; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:32:19 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2352E1E6023C for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:32:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55CCD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:24:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 502082 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:24:59 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMNOx317166 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:24:59 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAMNOuQb028639 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:24:57 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <004501c3b14f$e40e9700$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <004801c3b0c3$e18c85a0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FBF108F.31759.13D7D7@localhost> Subject: Re: Re: It's Time Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:25:14 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > On 22 Nov 2003 at 6:38, Betty wrote: > > > Yeah, yeah. Rub it in. > > All you're missing right now is rain, wind, and big surf. Ah, I love the rain, the wind, and the big surf. Here, we will be surfing on snow tomorrow, and the big wind will blow the big snow, and there will be no rainbows. Aloha, - Kamanalani From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 17:40:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMNeJ6q030077 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:40:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ECE4F1E6023E; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:33:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC6CB1E6023C for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:33:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A55CE1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:25:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 502103 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:25:57 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMNPr317242 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:25:57 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-184-130.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.184.130]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAMNPq9u000656 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:25:52 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FBFF034.2040905@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:24:36 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dear God . . References: <20031122232108.54744.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Rita Chapman wrote: > > Rita, this may have nothing to do with William's > spelling difficulties, but my Yahoo spell checker > insists on changing your address to "Sowbelly". Excellent. Piggy Sue ate Ana's snack at the barn today. I told Ana to leave it in the truck, cuz that pig is a smarty pants, but she didn't listen and suffered the natural consequences (so to speak). One of the girls at the barn got her New Pony today. It was all very exciting. Wicked fun. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 17:42:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMNg56q030088 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:42:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B9CF51E6023E; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:35:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F291E6023C for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:35:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A55CEC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:27:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 502133 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:27:44 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMNRh317337 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:27:43 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAMNRfQb009774 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:27:42 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <004c01c3b150$46122480$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3FBF97EE.6B19B09B@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Protest Organizers Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:28:02 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" To: Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 11:07 AM Subject: Protest Organizers > Re the question raised a day or so ago about who the organizers were of > the London protests -- I wasn't seeking info re who the organizers were, > but I stumbled upon the following in my zipping through online news. > The wording is a bit confusing -- the "this one was led by" suggests > that Ron Kovic was the overall organizer, but note the plural in > "organizers' figure" in the first sentence. Anyway, it's somewhat on > the subject we were discussing: > > ********** > Meanwhile, more than 110,000 people came out to protest against Bush on > a Thursday afternoon (the organizers' figure is 200,000)--a > demonstration second in size only to the February one that drew over a > million. As the movement has grown, the Stop the War marches have come > to feel like reunions: the same crisp placards in black, white and red, > the same feeling of moral necessity, the same sense of a surprising > variety of people. This one was led by Vietnam veteran Ron Kovic, who > had been guest of honor the previous day at a peace party hosted by > Mayor Ken Livingstone. > ********** > from: http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20031208&s=margaronis > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Yes, I've come across those names as well, along with others. I have no figures handy, but I think the actual numbers fell far below the "organizers" estimate. I think the mayor of London is a stinker, and very rude. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 17:46:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMNk66q030174 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:46:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E8E8E1E6023F; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:39:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B813B1E6023E for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:39:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55CD8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:31:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 502215 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:31:44 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMNVi317572 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:31:44 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAMNVcQb025312 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:31:39 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <006501c3b150$d3a1c440$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> Subject: Re: Re: Dear God . . Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:31:37 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Doris Markland wrote: > > >Saw a book in the bookstore > > > >titled "Christian Prayer for Dummies." > > > >Does this strike anyone else as funny? > > Not me. In fact, just this week, there was an extended and > informative discussion on Anglican about ways to Morning Prayer and > Evening Prayer. Many people know nothing about the daily offices. > > Bethany I would be one of those. In fact, I have no idea what "offices" are. Just not something I've been exposed to. So I wouldn't buy a book to learn how to do something I feel no need to do. I would have thought a prayer is something that is personal and comes from the heart and couldn't really be taught. So you are talking about something else and I respect that but I do not understand it. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 17:53:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAMNrn6q030301 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:53:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E47871E6027A; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:46:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3CEC1E6023F for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:46:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55CE3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:39:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 502311 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:39:27 -0500 Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com (imo-r06.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.102]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMNdR317911 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:39:27 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.94.402e2140 (4459) for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:39:15 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <94.402e2140.2cf14da3@aol.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:39:15 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] It's Time To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/22/2003 8:35:20 AM Central Standard Time, bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU writes: << I don't think Natalie is evil. >> No one on this list is evil, IMO. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 18:02:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN02X6q030395 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:02:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D757D1E6023E; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:55:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A10BE1E6023C for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:55:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A55CFF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:48:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 502393 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:48:11 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMNmA318262 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:48:11 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAMNm8Qb000971 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:48:09 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <008601c3b153$21686ec0$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031122222434.38917.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: It's Time Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:48:28 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > > Yeah, yeah. Rub it in. Is your son still home, > > Doris? > > And is Sarah is India? _________________________ Sara's plane is lifting off at Houston Int'l Airport this very minute. Oh my, she was so excited when I talked to her last night. Of course she has never been there, although she has met some of the people she will be with there, as they have come to Houston to visit. She will be travelling with her good friend P*** and will be aa guest in the home of P***'s sister. P*** and her sister are the daughters of an Indian movie star who died young. Priya was brought to the U. S. to be the bride of a young surgeon here, and Sara became her good friend . . and watched the two fall in love after their marriage. Nice people I consider my friends as well. They have arranged for Sara to do some travelling to see interesting sites and I'm sure they will take good care of her. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 18:04:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN04P6q030419 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:04:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BE0E51E6023E; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:57:22 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CB841E6023C for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:57:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F3DE5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:50:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 502432 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:49:57 -0500 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMNnv318330 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:49:57 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.12a.35b124c8 (4459) for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:49:46 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <12a.35b124c8.2cf1501a@aol.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:49:46 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] It's Time To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/22/2003 5:39:46 PM Central Standard Time, BrandyKitt@AOL.COM writes: << In a message dated 11/22/2003 8:35:20 AM Central Standard Time, bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU writes: << I don't think Natalie is evil. >> No one on this list is evil, IMO. >> 'Cept maybe me! Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 18:08:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN0896q030478 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:08:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6957C1E6023F; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:00:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 362781E6023C for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:00:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A55D14@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:53:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 502488 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:53:33 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMNrX318477 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:53:33 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAMNrUQb023449 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:53:31 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <00ad01c3b153$e1850920$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3FBED02A.5217FBA5@maynor.net> <3FBE4A2A.10652.1D67DF7@localhost> <4.2.2.20031122063748.00a75b30@uclink.berkeley.edu> <000a01c3b14b$e83a3c20$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FBFEA9E.AE1E2077@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: It's Time Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:53:51 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Doris Markland wrote: > > > We are going to Florida tomorrow to be with > > him and his family for Thanksgiving. > > Will either of your other children be there also? > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > Nope. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 18:10:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN0Ai6q030546 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:10:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7BDC91E6023F; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:03:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 462531E6023C for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:03:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55CFB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:56:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 502505 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:56:22 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMNuM318564 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:56:22 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAMNuJQb003687 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:56:20 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <00c001c3b154$466b1d20$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031122043716.26148.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20031122063851.00a63c70@uclink.berkeley.edu> <001d01c3b14e$866901e0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FBFEEFC.3040303@swbell.net> Subject: Re: Re: It's Time Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:56:40 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita: > Doris would make Rousseau very, very proud. I have never been exposed to Rousseau. Must I now go and see why you make the above comment? But I'm so busy. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 18:23:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN0NU6q030763 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:23:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 815031E60280; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:16:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E44D1E6027A for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:16:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F3E3D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:09:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 502548 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:09:08 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAMNx8318695 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:59:08 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAMNw9m9010228 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:58:11 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:59:04 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dear God . . In-Reply-To: <3FBFE6B2.817083F9@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FBFD5C0.4F6307E4@maynor.net> <3FBFE6B2.817083F9@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> Huh? Is a noun or verb? > >A noun in this context. So what's the verb? IN THIS CONTEXT. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 18:26:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN0QE6q030822 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:26:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DE04F1E6023F; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:19:11 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F8E1E6023D for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:19:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A55D2C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:11:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 502840 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:11:52 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN0Bp319510 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:11:51 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAN0BPsb008679 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:11:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:13:07 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1688477323.20031122181307@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Dear God . . In-Reply-To: References: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FBFD5C0.4F6307E4@maynor.net> <3FBFE6B2.817083F9@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 22, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>> Huh? Is a noun or verb? >> >>A noun in this context. > So what's the verb? IN THIS CONTEXT. It means "This shows that Bethany has rules." I don't think you're all about rules, but i do think you have a large number of rules. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 18:27:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN0R16q030831 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:27:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 86C541E6023D; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:19:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F6231E6001A for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:19:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F3E13@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:12:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 502581 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:12:37 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN02b318912 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:02:37 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAN01em9017369 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:01:40 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:02:36 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dear God . . In-Reply-To: <3FBFEA6A.7080302@swbell.net> Message-ID: References: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FBFEA6A.7080302@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: >> Not me. In fact, just this week, there was an extended and >> informative discussion on Anglican about ways to Morning Prayer and >> Evening Prayer. Many people know nothing about the daily offices. > > > I really don't feel I need to know anything about the offices >to know how to pray. Cool. But if there comes a time when you want to know more ... the offices are forms that Christians have found effective over the centuries ... as there are different literary genres, there are different prayer genres ... Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 18:28:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN0SM6q030839 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:28:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 694E81E6023D; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:21:19 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32A111E6001A for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:21:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55D28@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:13:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 502939 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:13:59 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN0Dx319683 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:13:59 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAN0DriM008437 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:13:57 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:15:14 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <231550093.20031122181514@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: It's Time In-Reply-To: <20031122223535.59304.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031122223535.59304.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 22, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Karen Kay wrote: >> I think there is much sin in the world, but that >> very little of it is >> committed by those who are evil. >> >> One could argue that evildoers, in fact, don't sin >> at all. They are >> simply obeying their evil nature. > So, in your view, do evil-doers differ from sinners? If you read what I wrote above, I that that the categories of sinners includes evil-doers. How can they be different if one includes the other? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 18:29:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN0TE6q030845 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:29:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 748661E6023F; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:22:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4203A1E6023D for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:22:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A55D3C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:14:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 502958 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:14:52 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN0Eq319733 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:14:52 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAN0ERsb010690 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:14:28 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:16:09 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <723352561.20031122181609@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: It's Time In-Reply-To: <3FBFE765.A36AFE97@maynor.net> References: <20031122222939.50988.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> <3FBFE765.A36AFE97@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 22, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Lynne Weber wrote: >> >> --- Natalie Maynor wrote: >> > I don't think that Bad Betty is evil. >> > >> This is getting out of hand. We should just begin a > We need to discuss bad vs evil. Bad Betty is very bad. But she is not > evil. Of course not. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 18:29:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN0Tj6q030851 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:29:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2959D1E6023D; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:22:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBE161E6001A for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:22:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55D2B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:15:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 502975 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:15:23 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN0FN319811 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:15:23 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAN0Exsb011047 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:15:00 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:16:42 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1373629404.20031122181642@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: ER In-Reply-To: <184.238ebc61.2cf1426e@aol.com> References: <184.238ebc61.2cf1426e@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 22, 2003, Evelyn Duncan wrote: > In a message dated 11/22/2003 3:46:16 PM Central Standard Time, > Karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: > << > I am convinced that he works in the ER to show his expertise, not > because of love of his patients. (Speaking of which, is Carter off the > show permanently, or is he coming back.) >>> > No, he's coming back. Noah Wyle wanted to spend some time > with his family. Thanks. I wondered, because he just had a baby. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 18:42:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN0gM6q030924 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:42:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ED7BD1E60240; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:35:19 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 914561E6023F for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:35:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55D45@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:27:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 503253 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:28:00 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN0Rx320539 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:27:59 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-184-130.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.184.130]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAN0Rw9u026662 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:27:59 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FBFFEC2.2090604@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:26:42 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dear God . . References: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FBFEA6A.7080302@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > > >>>Not me. In fact, just this week, there was an extended and >>>informative discussion on Anglican about ways to Morning Prayer and >>>Evening Prayer. Many people know nothing about the daily offices. >>> >> >> I really don't feel I need to know anything about the offices >>to know how to pray. >> > > Cool. But if there comes a time when you want to know more ... the offices > are forms that Christians have found effective over the centuries ... as > there are different literary genres, there are different prayer genres ... I know the offices, Bethany. I realize we're all irrrelevant heathens out here west of the Mississippi, but we do still use the Book of Common Prayer. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 18:45:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN0j26q030941 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:45:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7AB611E60240; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:37:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EBD61E6023F for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:37:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F3E38@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:30:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 503286 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:30:39 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN0Ud320696 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:30:39 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-148.gwi.net [216.195.150.148]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAN0URAt025101; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:30:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031122192322.00b4d3d8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:23:45 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <20031122231801.63383.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031122175305.00b4c240@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:18 PM 11/22/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > > Perhaps he is studying the Bethany Dumas Spelling > > Handbook. > > >I knew there was an obvious explanation. That's what William of Occam always said... cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 18:46:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN0k66q030954 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:46:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 614001E6023F; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:39:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE6161E6023D for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:39:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55D48@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:31:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 503299 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:31:43 -0500 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN0Vh320742 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:31:43 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.97.41117b26 (18251) for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:31:30 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <97.41117b26.2cf159e2@aol.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:31:30 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] ER To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/22/2003 6:15:39 PM Central Standard Time, Karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: << Thanks. I wondered, because he just had a baby. >> He's the only one left from the first episode. Does anyone know when TNT is showing the first episode again. I'm going to try to tape them. I've decided to get a DVD player; I'll hook it up with the VCR. Suggestions? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 18:56:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN0uL6q031055 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:56:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A7B9C1E60243; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:49:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 788641E6023F for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:49:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F3E73@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:41:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 503426 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:41:59 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN0fw321214 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:41:58 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-184-130.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.184.130]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAN0fv9u002890 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:41:58 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FC00209.8010802@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:40:41 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <20031122043716.26148.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20031122063851.00a63c70@uclink.berkeley.edu> <001d01c3b14e$866901e0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FBFEEFC.3040303@swbell.net> <00c001c3b154$466b1d20$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > Rita: > > >> Doris would make Rousseau very, very proud. >> > > > I have never been exposed to Rousseau. > Must I now go and see why you make > the above comment? > > But I'm so busy. You must, of course. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 19:06:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN1636q031212 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:06:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3FE171E6023F; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:59:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 138B11E6023D for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:58:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F3E56@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:51:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 503612 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:51:38 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN0pb321726 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:51:38 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123005132.CYEO20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:51:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC00496.E008780@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:51:34 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dear God . . References: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FBFEA6A.7080302@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > > informative discussion on Anglican about ways to Morning Prayer and > > Evening Prayer. Many people know nothing about the daily offices. > > I really don't feel I need to know anything about the offices > to know how to pray. Bingo. Not everybody is as much into as Bethany is. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 19:07:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN17A6q031229 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:07:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 783681E6023F; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:00:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 487A11E6023D for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:00:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55D73@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:52:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 503658 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:52:47 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN0ql321825 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:52:47 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123005242.CYLV20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:52:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC004DC.C4A62B50@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:52:44 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <20031122224236.86915.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <3FBFEB97.8020301@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > Poor Will. Ana is a lousy speller, too. Oh dear. She might not be able to serve as his secretary after they're married. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 19:07:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN17d6q031241 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:07:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8E1D81E6023F; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:00:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D7BC1E6023D for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:00:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55D75@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:53:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 503671 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:53:16 -0500 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.99]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN0rG321854 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:53:16 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.150.271cb663 (4362) for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:53:07 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <150.271cb663.2cf15ef2@aol.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:53:06 EST Subject: It's started... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ...Christmas music on the radio. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 19:10:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN1Ax6q031290 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:10:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BC5071E60240; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:03:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 853C91E6023D for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:03:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A55D93@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:56:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 503723 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:56:37 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN0ua322026 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:56:36 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123005631.CZMY20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:56:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC005C1.18C752CF@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:56:33 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <20031122043716.26148.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20031122063851.00a63c70@uclink.berkeley.edu> <001d01c3b14e$866901e0$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > . . they've learned the behavior somewhere. "Shades of the prisonhouse close upon the growing boy." > I'm supposed to > be packing for my trip, and a freezing rain is > falling to be followed by snow and we wonder if > we can drive to Omaha to the airport tomorrow. Ugh! Winter sux. I checked wunderground a little while ago and was happy to see that we still have one more day of gorgeous weather, but tomorrow night it is going to turn cold, cold, cold. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 19:12:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN1CO6q031315 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:12:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B36A81E6023F; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:05:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829141E6023D for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:05:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A55D96@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:58:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 503750 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:58:02 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN0w1322124 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:58:01 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123005756.CZWB20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:57:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC00616.156DED70@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:57:58 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Protest Organizers References: <3FBF97EE.6B19B09B@maynor.net> <004c01c3b150$46122480$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > I have no figures handy, but I think the > actual numbers fell far below the "organizers" estimate. That is what the article I quoted said: > > Meanwhile, more than 110,000 people came out to protest against Bush > on > > a Thursday afternoon (the organizers' figure is 200,000)--a -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 19:16:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN1GV6q031351 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:16:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E893B1E60243; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:09:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B68C51E60240 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:09:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A55D94@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:02:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 503813 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:02:09 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN129322336 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:02:09 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123010203.DAST20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:02:03 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC0070D.995A1541@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:02:05 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dear God . . References: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> <006501c3b150$d3a1c440$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > I would have thought > a prayer is something that is personal and > comes from the heart and couldn't really > be taught. So you are talking about > something else and I respect that but I do > not understand it. Ditto. It's fine that Bethany likes those rules and instructions. I have not at any point meant to imply that that's not ok. It's just that at times I get the strong sense that she thinks her way is . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 19:17:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN1H26q031365 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:17:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DEAD51E60240; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:09:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF3B1E6023F for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:09:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F3E69@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:02:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 503823 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:02:40 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN12d322353 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:02:40 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123010234.DAVN20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:02:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC0072C.3CA9A664@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:02:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <94.402e2140.2cf14da3@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > I don't think Natalie is evil. > >> > > No one on this list is evil, IMO. WHEW! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 19:17:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN1Hw6q031368 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:17:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2769B1E6023F; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:10:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E93241E60240 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:10:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A55D9F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:03:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 503839 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:03:36 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN13a322386 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:03:36 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123010331.DBAP20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:03:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC00765.4A63E564@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:03:33 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <20031122222434.38917.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> <008601c3b153$21686ec0$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > They have arranged for Sara to do some travelling to > see interesting sites and I'm sure they will take good > care of her. It sounds wonderful! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 19:19:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN1Jk6q031383 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:19:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EDC681E6023F; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:12:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD9EA1E6023D for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:12:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A55DA1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:05:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 503861 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:05:20 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN15J322492 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:05:20 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123010514.DBJX20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:05:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC007CC.C82CA84D@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:05:16 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <20031122043716.26148.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20031122063851.00a63c70@uclink.berkeley.edu> <001d01c3b14e$866901e0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FBFEEFC.3040303@swbell.net> <00c001c3b154$466b1d20$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > Rita: > > > Doris would make Rousseau very, very proud. > > I have never been exposed to Rousseau. > Must I now go and see why you make > the above comment? > > But I'm so busy. Rousseau would not like that you are that busy. You must simplify -- return to nature -- revel in the natural goodness of the woods and noble savagery. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 19:20:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN1KT6q031401 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:20:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2C6131E6023F; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:13:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFF931E6023D for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:13:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55D88@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:06:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 503881 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:06:07 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN167322533 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:06:07 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAN15wQb022032 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:06:05 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000801c3b15e$04d647e0$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031122043716.26148.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20031122063851.00a63c70@uclink.berkeley.edu> <001d01c3b14e$866901e0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FC005C1.18C752CF@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: It's Time Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:06:20 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" To: Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 6:56 PM Subject: Re: It's Time > Doris Markland wrote: > > > . . they've learned the behavior somewhere. > > "Shades of the prisonhouse close upon the growing boy." > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) "The world is too much with us, Late and soon, getting and spending, We lay waste our powers Little we see in nature that is ours. We have given our hearts away . . A sordid boone." This from memory. I wonder if I'm in the right poem. Wordsworth? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 19:22:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN1Mj6q031425 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:22:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D96AF1E60280; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:15:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8AD21E60244 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:15:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A55DA5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:08:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 503931 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:08:23 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN18N322738 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:08:23 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123010817.DCBL20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:08:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC00883.D1F1046A@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:08:19 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dear God . . References: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FBFD5C0.4F6307E4@maynor.net> <3FBFE6B2.817083F9@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >> Huh? Is a noun or verb? > > > >A noun in this context. > > So what's the verb? IN THIS CONTEXT. You snipped off the context. It was one of your rule-conscious postings. I think it was the one about needing instruction on how to prayer -- that many people didn't know anything about whatever and whatever prayers. Iow, they needed . They couldn't just commune with their god in any old way -- they couldn't just be spiritual -- they needed The Rules. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 19:28:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN1SZ6q031494 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:28:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E3DA31E60240; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:21:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3A141E6023F for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:21:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A55DA2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:14:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 503998 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:14:13 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN1ED323069 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:14:13 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123011407.DDFQ20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:14:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC009E1.77E18064@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:14:09 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <20031122043716.26148.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20031122063851.00a63c70@uclink.berkeley.edu> <001d01c3b14e$866901e0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FC005C1.18C752CF@maynor.net> <000801c3b15e$04d647e0$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > "Shades of the prisonhouse close upon the growing boy." > "The world is too much with us, > Late and soon, getting and spending, > We lay waste our powers > Little we see in nature that is ours. > We have given our hearts away . . > A sordid boone." > > This from memory. I wonder if I'm > in the right poem. Wordsworth? Both are Wordsworth, but different poems. "Shades of the prisonhouse close upon the growing boy" (also from memory -- perhaps not quoted exactly correctly -- I haven't Romantic poetry in over thirty years) is from Wordsworth's "Ode: Intimations of Immortality" -- "nothing can bring back the splendor in the grass, the glory in the flower" etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 19:37:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN1bi6q031589 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:37:44 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 103FC1E60243; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:30:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD8D11E60240 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:30:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55D9B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:23:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 504128 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:23:21 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN1NL323587 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:23:21 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123012315.DFEI20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:23:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC00C05.3E3B7332@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:23:17 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <20031122043716.26148.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20031122063851.00a63c70@uclink.berkeley.edu> <001d01c3b14e$866901e0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FC005C1.18C752CF@maynor.net> <000801c3b15e$04d647e0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FC009E1.77E18064@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > "nothing can bring back the splendor in the grass, ^ hour of Still from memory, but my memory is that I accidentally left that out. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 19:53:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN1r46q031784 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:53:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5D13B1E60248; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:46:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 241161E60247 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:46:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A55DDD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:38:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 504568 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:38:41 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN1cf324838 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:38:41 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-184-130.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.184.130]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAN1c7Vs026239 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:38:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FC00F51.2030807@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:37:21 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's started... References: <150.271cb663.2cf15ef2@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU One of the local radio stations has gone to 24-hour Christmas music already. I think they converted to it Wednesday. Evelyn Duncan wrote: > ...Christmas music on the radio. > > Evelyn Duncan > brandykitt@aol.com > A scavenger hunt? How horrible! > I don't believe in hunting scavengers. > -- Bubbles > > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 20:02:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN2236q031888 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:02:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A4AC71E6024E; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:55:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74BA81E60248 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:55:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55DDF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:47:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 504822 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:47:40 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN1le325530 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:47:40 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-184-130.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.184.130]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAN1l6Vs029680 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:47:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FC0116D.6050003@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:46:21 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <20031122224236.86915.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <3FBFEB97.8020301@swbell.net> <3FC004DC.C4A62B50@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Rita Chapman wrote: > > >> Poor Will. Ana is a lousy speller, too. >> > > Oh dear. She might not be able to serve as his secretary after they're > married. No, she hasn't been raised correctly for that. French, hunt seat riding lessons, etc. She is developing into a world-class chicken chaser. Will should take riding lessons with his sister. It does a great deal for self-confidence when you can control an animal whose head weighs more than your whole body. Of course, I'm a little chubbier than that now, but I've already seen some of my old self come back. I in and broke up a fight between two boys this week... a 6-ft boy doesn't seem like much next to a 16 h. thoroughbred stallion. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 20:16:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN2GJ6q032068 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:16:19 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2A2511E60255; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:09:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E94A11E6024D for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:09:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A55DFF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:01:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 504980 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:01:56 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f109.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.109]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN21t326212 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:01:55 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:01:50 -0800 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 02:01:49 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: "hung like a hamster" Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:01:49 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Nov 2003 02:01:50.0222 (UTC) FILETIME=[C2111AE0:01C3B165] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The Manitoulin Expositor exposits on the spring bear hunt: http://www.manitoulin.on.ca/Expositor/editorial.html "In fact, the report goes so far as to encourage the use of suspended bait when bear hunting because 'suspended bait provides the hunter with the best opportunity to correctly identify the sex of a bear visiting the bait site.' "This is particularly amusing considering that, even standing on its hind paws with its underbelly open for all the world to see, the male black bear is not particularly known for being well-endowed. In fact, one might describe the male black bear as being "hung like a hamster." Yet somehow hunters will be expected to identify the male black bear on sight, as shooting a female black bear will carry a high penalty." _________________________________________________________________ Need a shot of Hank Williams or Patsy Cline? The classic country stars are always singing on MSN Radio Plus. Try one month free! http://join.msn.com/?page=offers/premiumradio From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 20:19:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN2Jk6q032108 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:19:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F255F1E6024D; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:12:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD77A1E60240 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:12:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A55E0F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:05:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 505068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:05:23 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f46.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.46]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN25N326504 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:05:23 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:05:17 -0800 Received: from 162.33.243.14 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 02:05:17 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.33.243.14] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Mystery! Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 02:05:17 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Nov 2003 02:05:17.0370 (UTC) FILETIME=[3D8961A0:01C3B166] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Anyone here watch "Coyote Waits" on Mystery? The whodunit part was all right, I was struck more by the gorgeous Southwestern landscape and sights. Stunning backdrop of rocks and canyons that were a big part of the story. I haven't read any Tony Hillerman and couldn't tell how good an adaptation it was. _________________________________________________________________ Need a shot of Hank Williams or Patsy Cline? The classic country stars are always singing on MSN Radio Plus. Try one month free! http://join.msn.com/?page=offers/premiumradio From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 20:22:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN2Mq6q032189 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:22:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8BBBA1E6025C; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:15:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B6201E6024D for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:15:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A55E0A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:08:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 505102 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:08:29 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f4.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.4]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN28T326633 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:08:29 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:08:24 -0800 Received: from 162.33.243.14 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 02:08:23 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.33.243.14] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: It's started... Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 02:08:23 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Nov 2003 02:08:24.0172 (UTC) FILETIME=[ACE11AC0:01C3B166] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: >...Christmas music on the radio. Speaking of which the other day I heard a deejay say "cutting through the chase". Reminded me of Adam/LH's intensive purposes... _________________________________________________________________ Say “goodbye” to busy signals and slow downloads with a high-speed Internet connection! Prices start at less than $1 a day average. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 20:29:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN2TF6q032243 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:29:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9CE9A1E6024D; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:22:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23C191E60240 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:22:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55E13@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:14:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 505330 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:14:49 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN2En327105 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:14:49 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-184-130.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.184.130]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAN2Elk0022556 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:14:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FC017C8.5030403@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:13:28 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dear God . . References: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FBFEA6A.7080302@swbell.net> <3FC00496.E008780@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Rita Chapman wrote: > > >>>informative discussion on Anglican about ways to Morning Prayer and >>>Evening Prayer. Many people know nothing about the daily offices. >>> >> I really don't feel I need to know anything about the offices >>to know how to pray. >> > > Bingo. Not everybody is as much into as Bethany is. No. The daily offices are certainly good things, but I don't know that they were intended to replace personal prayer. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 20:33:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN2X16q032276 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:33:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7A76F1E6024D; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:25:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45DD81E60240 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:25:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A55E34@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:18:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 505412 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:18:38 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAN2Ic327372 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:18:38 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:18:32 PST Message-ID: <20031123021832.43334.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:18:32 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Dear God . . To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FBFF034.2040905@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Rita Chapman wrote: > Excellent. Piggy Sue ate Ana's snack at the > barn today. I > told Ana to leave it in the truck, cuz that pig is a > smarty > pants, but she didn't listen and suffered the > natural > consequences (so to speak). What was the snack? > > One of the girls at the barn got her New > Pony today. It was > all very exciting. Wicked fun. What affiliation is the New Pony? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 20:33:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN2Xn6q032285 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:33:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 530BE1E60255; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:26:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D737A1E6024D for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:26:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55E1F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:19:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 505124 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:19:26 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN29Q326678 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:09:26 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAN28Sm9003055 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:08:28 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:09:24 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dear God . . In-Reply-To: <3FBFFEC2.2090604@swbell.net> Message-ID: References: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FBFEA6A.7080302@swbell.net> <3FBFFEC2.2090604@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > I know the offices, Bethany. Good! I realize we're all irrrelevant >heathens out here west of the Mississippi, I did not know that. but we do still >use the Book of Common Prayer. Good! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 20:35:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN2ZN6q032292 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:35:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3DF551E6025C; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:28:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DCF11E60240 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:28:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A55E3A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:21:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 505452 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:21:00 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAN2L0327469 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:21:00 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:20:55 PST Message-ID: <20031123022055.38194.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:20:55 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: It's Time To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <004501c3b14f$e40e9700$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > Ah, I love the rain, the wind, and the big surf. > Here, we will be surfing on snow tomorrow, > and the big wind will blow the big snow, and > there will be no rainbows. > > Aloha, > > - Kamanalani Family Thanksgivings are great fun, but when this holiday is over, you must report on the non-beeping trucks in Hawaii. You cannot evade the issue forever. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 20:36:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN2aG6q032298 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:36:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 49BC61E6024D; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:29:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1839C1E60240 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:29:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F3F38@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:21:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 505219 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:21:53 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN2Br326884 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:11:53 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAN2Apm9007310 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:10:56 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:11:44 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dear God . . In-Reply-To: <3FC0070D.995A1541@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> <006501c3b150$d3a1c440$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FC0070D.995A1541@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Ditto. It's fine that Bethany likes those rules and instructions. I >have not at any point meant to imply that that's not ok. It's just that >at times I get the strong sense that she thinks her way is right way>. Of course I think that it is the right way for me at this time of my life. If I thought some other way were the right way, I would seek it out. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 20:39:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN2dV6q032351 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:39:31 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BE70C1E60257; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:32:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E2B71E60255 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:32:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A55E3E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:25:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 505335 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:25:08 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN2F8327150 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:15:08 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAN2E6m9013715 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:14:11 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:15:02 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dear God . . In-Reply-To: <3FC00883.D1F1046A@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FBFD5C0.4F6307E4@maynor.net> <3FBFE6B2.817083F9@maynor.net> <3FC00883.D1F1046A@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >You snipped off the context. It was one of your rule-conscious >postings. I think it was the one about needing instruction on how to > prayer -- that many people didn't know anything about whatever and >whatever prayers. Iow, they needed . They couldn't just >commune with their god in any old way -- they couldn't just be spiritual >-- they needed The Rules. I have never said anything about other people needing instruction. I said that I did not think the book title Christian Prayer for Dummies was funny. I also said that another list I am on had just had an informative discussion of how to (I knew that would set N. off) Morning and Evening Prayer. We had the discussion, of course, because someone asked about it. And other people asked other questions, etc. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 20:40:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN2ex6q032358 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:40:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 48A5E1E6025D; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:33:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 179821E6025C for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:33:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A55E37@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:26:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 505378 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:26:36 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN2GZ327252 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:16:35 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAN2Fcm9016480 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:15:39 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:16:34 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's started... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 23 Nov 2003, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >>...Christmas music on the radio. > >Speaking of which the other day I heard a deejay say "cutting >through the chase". Reminded me of Adam/LH's intensive >purposes... Mondegreens RULE. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 20:41:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN2fE6q032363 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:41:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CFFFB1E6024D; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:34:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F21E1E60240 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:34:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55E26@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:26:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 505531 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:26:51 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAN2Qo327701 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:26:51 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:26:45 PST Message-ID: <20031123022645.95161.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:26:45 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: It's Time To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <008601c3b153$21686ec0$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > Sara's plane is lifting off at Houston Int'l Airport > this very minute. Oh my, she was so excited when > I talked to her last night. Of course she has never > been there, although she has met some of the people > she will be with there, as they have come to Houston > to visit. She will be travelling with her good > friend P*** > and will be aa guest in the home of P***'s sister. > P*** > and her sister are the daughters of an Indian movie > star who > died young. Priya was brought to the U. S. to be > the > bride of a young surgeon here, and Sara became her > good > friend . . and watched the two fall in love after > their > marriage. Nice people I consider my friends as > well. > They have arranged for Sara to do some travelling to > see interesting sites and I'm sure they will take > good > care of her. Sounds like ALL of the family will be having a wonderful Thanksgiving. Fly out of that swirling snow and enjoy it! > > - D. M. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 20:44:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN2i66q032399 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:44:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D8F9D1E6024D; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:37:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5B761E60240 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:37:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A55E3B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:29:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 505416 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:28:59 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN2Iw327377 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:18:59 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAN2Hvm9021096 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:18:02 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:18:53 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dear God . . In-Reply-To: <3FC017C8.5030403@swbell.net> Message-ID: References: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FBFEA6A.7080302@swbell.net> <3FC00496.E008780@maynor.net> <3FC017C8.5030403@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > No. The daily offices are certainly good things, but I don't >know that they were intended to replace personal prayer. They are forms of corporate prayer (important to those of us who value community) that include personal prayer. It's not either/or. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 20:44:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN2i86q032405 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:44:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 05E081E6024D; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:37:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA29A1E60240 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:37:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F3F0F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:29:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 505575 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:29:45 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAN2Tf327841 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:29:41 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:29:35 PST Message-ID: <20031123022935.91452.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:29:35 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: It's Time To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <12a.35b124c8.2cf1501a@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > No one on this list is evil, IMO. > >> > > 'Cept maybe me! Nah. I don't believe there is an evil bone in your body - which reminds me, did your elbow get back to normal? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 20:48:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN2mR6q032446 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:48:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 853CB1E60257; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:41:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB191E6025D for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:41:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A55E48@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:34:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 505636 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:34:04 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAN2Y4328069 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:34:04 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:33:59 PST Message-ID: <20031123023359.92528.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:33:59 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Iron Bowl To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dr. V., Tonight the big game in the state of Alabama is being played - Auburn vs. Alabama. Score at the half: Auburn - 18 Alabama - 2 Strange football score, eh? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 20:49:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN2nq6q032462 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:49:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 77DDF1E60257; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:42:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F711E60240 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:42:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A55E4B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:35:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 505663 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:35:29 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAN2ZT328133 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:35:29 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:35:24 PST Message-ID: <20031123023524.65637.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:35:24 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Dear God . . To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FC0070D.995A1541@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: It's just that > at times I get the strong sense that she thinks her > way is right way>. Don't we all? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 20:51:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN2pk6q032468 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:51:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 22E831E60257; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:44:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2B261E60240 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:44:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A55E48@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:37:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 505712 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:37:23 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN2bM328252 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:37:23 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-184-130.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.184.130]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAN2anVs020774 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:36:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FC01D12.7040204@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:36:02 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dear God . . References: <20031123021832.43334.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Rita Chapman wrote: > >> Excellent. Piggy Sue ate Ana's snack at the >>barn today. I >>told Ana to leave it in the truck, cuz that pig is a >>smarty >>pants, but she didn't listen and suffered the >>natural >>consequences (so to speak). >> > > What was the snack? Honey BBQ Pretzels. >> One of the girls at the barn got her New >>Pony today. It was >>all very exciting. Wicked fun. >> > > What affiliation is the New Pony? It's an Episcopalian barn. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 20:52:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN2q26q032471 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:52:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D542E1E6025D; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:44:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A51231E60257 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:44:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A55E55@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:37:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 505740 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:37:39 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAN2bd328286 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:37:39 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:37:33 PST Message-ID: <20031123023733.72322.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:37:33 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: It's Time To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <000801c3b15e$04d647e0$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie wrote: > "The world is too much with us, > Late and soon, getting and spending, > We lay waste our powers > Little we see in nature that is ours. > We have given our hearts away . . > A sordid boone." > > This from memory. I wonder if I'm > in the right poem. Wordsworth? Yes, I've always loved it. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 20:54:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN2sq6q032552 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:54:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BFC531E6025C; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:47:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FF3E1E60240 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:47:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A55E58@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:40:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 505785 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:40:26 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN2eP328476 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:40:25 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-184-130.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.184.130]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAN2dqVs021897 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:39:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FC01DC9.9060307@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:39:05 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dear God . . References: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FBFEA6A.7080302@swbell.net> <3FC00496.E008780@maynor.net> <3FC017C8.5030403@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > > >> No. The daily offices are certainly good things, but I don't >>know that they were intended to replace personal prayer. >> > > They are forms of corporate prayer (important to those of us who value > community) that include personal prayer. It's not either/or. I don't like community. At all. I recognize the value of such, but I would prefer to avoid it. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 20:56:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN2tx6q032568 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:55:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7EBBA1E60257; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:48:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E4331E60240 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:48:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F3F5C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:41:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 505609 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:41:36 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN2Va327949 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:31:36 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAN2Udm9013022 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:30:40 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:31:35 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: invocations Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie, you, might want to look at _He Karakia Mihinare o Aotearoa_ (A New Zealand Prayer Book) - it contains invocations (in both languages). p. 168: Eternal Spirit, flow through our being and open our lips, *that out mouths may proclaim your praise. Let us worship the God of love, *Alleluia, alleluia. (During a , the lines marked by an asterisk would be said by the congregation.) You probably don't like alleluias - but they are legal until Lent. (You probably don't want to be legal, either.) The book is a very interesting one. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 20:59:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN2xc6q032581 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:59:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2063E1E60257; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:52:35 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E05D01E60240 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:52:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A55E5B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:45:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 505838 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:45:15 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAN2jF328768 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:45:15 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:45:09 PST Message-ID: <20031123024509.13804.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:45:09 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Dear God . . To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FC01D12.7040204@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Rita Chapman wrote: > > What affiliation is the New Pony? > > > It's an Episcopalian barn. Good, there is nothing more dismal than a godless pony. I hope he/she has her own "office". __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 21:02:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN32s6q032616 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:02:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 415A51E60257; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:55:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B4B1E60240 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:55:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A55E5D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:48:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 505865 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:48:31 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN2mV328880 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:48:31 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123024825.JEPA1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:48:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC01FFC.83D9A1A7@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:48:28 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dear God . . References: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> <006501c3b150$d3a1c440$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FC0070D.995A1541@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >Ditto. It's fine that Bethany likes those rules and instructions. I > >have not at any point meant to imply that that's not ok. It's just that > >at times I get the strong sense that she thinks her way is >right way>. > > Of course I think that it is the right way for me at this time of my > life. If I thought some other way were the right way, I would seek it > out. Of course. But the normal interpretation of "that she thinks her way is " is *the* only right way -- as in for anybody. Your personal religious views and preferences are fine. Nobody would argue with that. Or at least I certainly wouldn't. But I do get pretty turned off by your brand of religion when you make snide and condescending comments about other people's personal religious views. You will, of course, come back in a rush of fake claiming that you have never done any such thing. I will not bother to go to the archives and point out the rather insulting things you've said just in the past twenty-four hours, not to mention at other times. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 21:04:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN3446q032623 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:04:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7A3FD1E6025D; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:57:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F291E6025C for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:57:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F3F37@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:49:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 505931 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:49:41 -0500 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN2nf328971 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:49:41 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.130.283c5f41 (4468) for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:49:29 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <130.283c5f41.2cf17a39@aol.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:49:29 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] It's Time To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/22/2003 8:30:05 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << Nah. I don't believe there is an evil bone in your body - which reminds me, did your elbow get back to normal? >> Almost, not quite, though. It still hurts a little when I use it a lot. But it doesn't hurt when I touch it. When I first hurt it, there was a sharp pain whenever I touched it. I took Bennie out tonight; he wanted to go out really badly, even though he had papers to go on. So, I put the leash on him, and he took off with me on the other end of the leash as if he were running toward the Mother Ship. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 21:05:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN3506q032679 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:05:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5450E1E60257; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:57:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2505B1E60240 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:57:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A55E63@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:50:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 505962 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:50:37 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f10.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN2ob329034 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:50:37 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:50:28 -0800 Received: from 162.33.242.151 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 02:50:26 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.33.242.151] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: new refrigerator Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 02:50:26 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Nov 2003 02:50:28.0096 (UTC) FILETIME=[8D415800:01C3B16C] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev: > > >In my limited experience, ice-maker ice tastes bad. Unless you have a >high > > >turnover, the ice takes on a refrigerator smell. I also don't like > > > You need filtered water. It's all that Maine water. >>Bethany >It tastes fine coming out of the faucet. I can attest to that. For some reason it's all the rage now to bash tap water. Everyone's into drinking only bottled or filtered water. I don't get it - we have very safe drinking water here and it's not considered cool to drink it. I'll buy water at lunch as I don't like soda with a meal but drink water out of the faucet at home. Appeals to the contrarian and the cheapskate in me. _________________________________________________________________ Gift-shop online from the comfort of home at MSN Shopping! No crowds, free parking. http://shopping.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 21:05:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN35e6q032682 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:05:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3D7791E60257; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:58:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D7411E60240 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:58:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A55E64@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:51:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 505972 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:51:17 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAN2pH329066 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:51:17 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:51:12 PST Message-ID: <20031123025112.68668.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:51:12 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: It's Time To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FBFE765.A36AFE97@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > We need to discuss bad vs evil. Bad Betty is very > bad. But she is not > evil. Betty is bad, but not baaaad. Anyway, I was told it was all T.S.' doing, making her bad. I have a sneaking suspicion, however, that she revels in every bad moment. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 21:06:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN36E6q032685 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:06:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A56B31E60257; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:59:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 723541E60240 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:59:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F3F3C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:51:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 505982 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:51:50 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN2po329082 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:51:50 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123025145.JFHC1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:51:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC020C3.6D268E94@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:51:47 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dear God . . References: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FBFD5C0.4F6307E4@maynor.net> <3FBFE6B2.817083F9@maynor.net> <3FC00883.D1F1046A@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >You snipped off the context. It was one of your rule-conscious > >postings. I think it was the one about needing instruction on how to > > prayer -- that many people didn't know anything about whatever and > >whatever prayers. Iow, they needed . They couldn't just > >commune with their god in any old way -- they couldn't just be spiritual > >-- they needed The Rules. > > I have never said anything about other people needing instruction. I said I'm not going to go search for your exact words, but you certainly suggested that other people needed instruction when you said something like "most people don't know how to do [or maybe it was understand -- something like that] the morning and evening prayers." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 21:07:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN37R6q032691 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:07:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E8A791E60257; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:00:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B4A1E60240 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:00:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F3F6F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:53:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 506017 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:53:04 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN2r3329172 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:53:03 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123025258.JFOT1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:52:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC0210C.1DC045E8@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:53:00 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Speaking of the Archives Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I meant to mention that FWP fixed them. The problem was that a few from a year ago had somehow failed to be deleted, so when those dates were reached this year, the new stuff got appended to the year-old log. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 21:08:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN3806q032698 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:08:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9C8411E60257; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:00:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BE321E60240 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:00:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F3F74@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:53:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 506023 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:53:36 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN2ra329185 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:53:36 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2003112302533101200293bue> (Authid: adamh1); Sun, 23 Nov 2003 02:53:31 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "meebers" Subject: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:53:31 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU So I went to see Jane Siberry Thursday night on a whim and a vague recommendation, loved her music, and went again on Friday night in New Haven. Tried to get ahold of Emily but no luck. Consequently, there were 400 unread Words-L messages in my mailbox that I just deleted. (But I did a vanity search and saw Rashmi's cutting through the chase.) If Jane's going to be near you, go see her. http://www.sheeba.ca/tour.php . --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 21:08:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN38u6q032709 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:08:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 994361E60257; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:01:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67D691E60240 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:01:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A55E6B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:54:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 506033 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:54:32 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN2sW329212 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:54:32 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123025427.JFYA1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:54:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC02165.80936FF8@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:54:29 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <20031123022645.95161.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Sounds like ALL of the family will be having a > wonderful Thanksgiving. Fly out of that swirling snow > and enjoy it! What about the son in California? I've forgotten his name. What will he be doing for Thanksgiving? Does he get home very often? The main thing I remember about him is that he is famous for losing track of time and therefore possibly missing planes. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 21:10:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN3AA6q032719 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:10:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E58951E60257; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:03:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF5031E60240 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:03:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A55E6E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:55:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 506057 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:55:47 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN2tk329265 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:55:46 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-184-130.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.184.130]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAN2tjxu026432 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:55:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FC02160.9080206@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:54:24 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dear God . . References: <20031123024509.13804.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Rita Chapman wrote: > >>>What affiliation is the New Pony? >>> >> >> It's an Episcopalian barn. >> > > Good, there is nothing more dismal than a godless > pony. I hope he/she has her own "office". Yep. Full of nice fluffy sawdust. Saw to that personally. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 21:11:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN3BG6q000309 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:11:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 63CAA1E60257; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:04:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32A491E60240 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:04:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A55E75@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:56:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 506110 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:56:53 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN2ur329349 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:56:53 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAN2uoQb005259 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:56:51 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000801c3b16d$7e9bd7c0$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031122043716.26148.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20031122063851.00a63c70@uclink.berkeley.edu> <001d01c3b14e$866901e0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FBFEEFC.3040303@swbell.net> <00c001c3b154$466b1d20$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FC007CC.C82CA84D@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: It's Time Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:57:12 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > But I'm so busy. > > Rousseau would not like that you are that busy. You must simplify -- > return to nature -- revel in the natural goodness of the woods and noble > savagery. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Oh, but that's why I'm busy. I'm getting ready to return to nature. I will be by the ocean tomorrow, where I can once again meditate and/or revel. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 21:15:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN3F26q000335 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:15:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2D8CB1E6025C; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:07:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF69D1E60240 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:07:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F3F84@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:00:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 506177 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:00:01 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAN301329550 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:00:01 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:59:56 PST Message-ID: <20031123025956.10709.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:59:56 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: It's Time To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <130.283c5f41.2cf17a39@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > I took Bennie out tonight; he wanted to go out > really badly, > even though he had papers to go on. So, I put the > leash on > him, and he took off with me on the other end of the > leash > as if he were running toward the Mother Ship. Land sakes, don't allow him to leave you behind! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 21:16:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN3Fx6q000340 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:16:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 62B801E6025D; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:08:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DA671E6025C for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:08:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F3F55@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:01:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 506222 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:01:31 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN31V329634 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:01:31 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-184-130.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.184.130]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAN30vVs000141 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:00:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FC022B9.1020803@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:00:09 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: new refrigerator References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: > I can attest to that. For some reason it's all the rage now to bash > tap water. Everyone's into drinking only bottled or filtered water. > I don't get it - we have very safe drinking water here and it's > not considered cool to drink it. > > I'll buy water at lunch as I don't like soda with a meal but drink > water out of the faucet at home. Appeals to the contrarian and > the cheapskate in me. I re-fill my Evian bottles at the bubbler around the corner from my room. I wish those pumpkin breads would hurry up. I have been entrusted with the of coffee hour tomorrow. Gotta bring goodies. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 21:17:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN3Hj6q000360 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:17:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 706FF1E60240; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:10:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D5111E6025C for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:10:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55E72@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:03:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 506269 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:03:21 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN33L329767 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:03:21 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAN33IQb028575 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:03:19 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <004501c3b16e$65ef3400$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031123022645.95161.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> <3FC02165.80936FF8@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: It's Time Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:03:40 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > What about the son in California? I've forgotten his name. What will > he be doing for Thanksgiving? Does he get home very often? The main > thing I remember about him is that he is famous for losing track of time > and therefore possibly missing planes. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) What a memory! Certainly better than his. No, John will not be home for Thanksgiving nor for Xmas, But he will come see us in Honolulu and we'll celebrate then. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 21:19:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN3J96q000390 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:19:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3A1571E6025C; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:12:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 062051E60240 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:12:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A55E86@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:04:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 506289 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:04:46 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN34k329827 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:04:46 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123030441.JIJT1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:04:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC023CB.7813C990@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:04:43 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <20031123022935.91452.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Nah. I don't believe there is an evil bone in your > body - which reminds me, did your elbow get back to > normal? And how are the animals? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 21:27:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN3R06q000453 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:27:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A44D61E6025D; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:19:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FA6C1E6025C for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:19:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55E8F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:12:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 506552 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:12:37 -0500 Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN3Ca330500 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:12:36 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.97.4113163f (4592) for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:12:29 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <97.4113163f.2cf17f9d@aol.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:12:29 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] It's Time To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/22/2003 9:00:44 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << Land sakes, don't allow him to leave you behind! >> But who will take care of Sweetie? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 21:31:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN3Vq6q000549 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:31:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 978331E6025C; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:24:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62AC11E60240 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:24:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A55EA4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:17:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 506587 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:17:28 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN3HS330693 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:17:28 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123031723.EEYP20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:17:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC026C5.8D8B70A@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:17:25 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: invocations References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > Natalie, you, might want to look at _He Karakia Mihinare o Aotearoa_ (A > New Zealand Prayer Book) - it contains invocations (in both languages). Thanks! I'm pretty happy with the one we were talking about this morning, but I'm interested in looking at more possibilities. > p. 168: > > Eternal Spirit, > flow through our being and open our lips, > *that out mouths may proclaim your praise. Hmm. This one doesn't appeal much to me. But thank you for playing anyway. And don't stop making suggestions. > > Let us worship the God of love, > *Alleluia, alleluia. > > (During a , the lines marked by an asterisk would be said by the > congregation.) > > You probably don't like alleluias - I like them very much. I can still sing (the alto part an octave lower) every word and note of the "Hallelujah Chorus" -- along with all of the choruses in Part I, most of the other choruses in Part II, and a couple in Part III -- and am still really frustrated when I'm listening to an amateur choir doing the HC and hear the altos screwing up on the part where the quick (as in sixteenth-notes) hallelujahs -- starting with a couple of a's, I think -- come in right after the tenors have been hallelujahing. I want to be up there singing with the choir that's screwing it up so that I can help the altos . Not being able to sing anymore is sooo frustrating. That's just one example of the great amount of hallelujahing I've done in my life. I hate that my dead vocal cords won't let me do the usual "Christ the Lord is Risen Today" on Easter, etc. etc. etc. > but they are legal until Lent. (You > probably don't want to be legal, either.) No, I don't. Rules about when one can celebrate life and spirituality with alleluias strike me as silly. I don't mind that you are into them, but I can assure you that they are not something I consider important. If I want to alleluia at the top of my lungs on April 2, I will do so and will consider it that I do so. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 21:33:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN3X06q000555 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:33:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E91131E6025C; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:25:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B96941E60240 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:25:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A55EAD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:18:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 506601 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:18:37 -0500 Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN3Ib330733 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:18:37 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.31.410ac1cf (4592) for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:18:29 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <31.410ac1cf.2cf18105@aol.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:18:29 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] It's Time To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/22/2003 9:04:52 PM Central Standard Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << And how are the animals? >> Bennie's fine; very settled in and determined to have his own way. I've been giving Sweetie extra attention when Bennie's asleep. Tomorrow, I'm going to spend the day with her in Mom's room because that's the way she likes it. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 21:36:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN3aL6q000616 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:36:21 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AB3B11E6025D; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:29:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 779281E6025C for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:29:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A55EA8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:21:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 506633 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:21:57 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAN3Lv330854 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:21:57 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:21:52 PST Message-ID: <20031123032152.21831.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:21:52 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: It's Time To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <97.4113163f.2cf17f9d@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > But who will take care of Sweetie? I betcha Sweetie is very nearly self-sufficient; but, if you go, you must take her, of course. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 21:38:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN3cE6q000637 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:38:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 730851E6025C; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:31:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DEAC1E60240 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:31:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55E97@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:23:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 506660 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:23:50 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN3No330945 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:23:50 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123032345.EGKR20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:23:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC02843.EAD16778@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:23:47 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Iron Bowl References: <20031123023359.92528.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Tonight the big game in the state of Alabama is being > played - Auburn vs. Alabama. Score at the half: > Auburn - 18 > Alabama - 2 > > Strange football score, eh? Yes, it is. And I had forgotten about football. Everybody around here has. I've noticed that The Reflector (the student newspaper) has continued to simply leave MSU out of its Friday prediction charts -- as if MSU doesn't have a football team at all. It is very sad. I'm sure the team is happy that in less than a week the misery will all be over. We played (are playing -- I don't know whether it was day or night) Arkansas today. The expected score by most people I know was about 56-0. Then we have The Egg Bowl Thanksgiving night. It will be the really, really sad one. Regardless of how a season has gone, it's usually considered mega important by both teams. Not this year. Football has been removed from MSU consciousness altogether. Nobody cares anymore since there is no hope of any kind. I bet the ESPN people are unhappy that they're committed to broadcasting that game. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 21:38:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN3cl6q000649 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:38:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DE8D61E60240; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:31:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE2431E6025C for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:31:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A55EAA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:24:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 506667 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:24:24 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN3OO330967 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:24:24 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123032418.EGNQ20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:24:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC02864.20A29918@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:24:20 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dear God . . References: <20031123023524.65637.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > It's just that > > at times I get the strong sense that she thinks her > > way is > right way>. > > Don't we all? Re religion? I don't think so. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 21:40:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN3ed6q000668 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:40:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0493E1E6025D; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:33:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8E671E6025C for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:33:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55E9B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:26:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 506701 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:26:16 -0500 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN3QG331050 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:26:16 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.76.353c85cf (4592) for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:26:06 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <76.353c85cf.2cf182ce@aol.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:26:06 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] It's Time To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/22/2003 9:22:16 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << I betcha Sweetie is very nearly self-sufficient; but, if you go, you must take her, of course. >> She acts that way, but she loves to spend time with me. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 21:42:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN3gH6q000692 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:42:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2EB791E60285; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:35:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0E241E60283 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:35:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A55EB7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:27:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 506717 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:27:53 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN3Rr331131 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:27:53 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123032748.EHEW20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:27:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC02936.A16B5232@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:27:50 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <20031123023733.72322.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > Natalie wrote: > > > "The world is too much with us, > > Late and soon, getting and spending, > > We lay waste our powers > > Little we see in nature that is ours. > > We have given our hearts away . . > > A sordid boone." > > > > This from memory. I wonder if I'm > > in the right poem. Wordsworth? > > Yes, I've always loved it. Actually it was Doris who wrote that, not me. But that's ok. I also like that poem. And Bethany no doubt does also since it is pro organized religion, though I'm not sure she would cotton to Triton blowing his horn or Proteus rising from the sea. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 21:43:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN3hg6q000737 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:43:42 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 89ED51E60280; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:36:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A02F1E6025D for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:36:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55E9F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:29:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 506743 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:29:18 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN3TI331188 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:29:18 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123032913.EHMX20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:29:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC0298B.6077D0C6@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:29:15 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <130.283c5f41.2cf17a39@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > him, and he took off with me on the other end of the leash > as if he were running toward the Mother Ship. Oh yes! I know that scene well. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 21:45:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN3jj6q000790 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:45:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6A34E1E6025C; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:38:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A1701E60250 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:38:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55EA1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:31:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 506766 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:31:21 -0500 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN3VL331282 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:31:21 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1c4.1212a957 (4592) for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:31:13 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1c4.1212a957.2cf18401@aol.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:31:13 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] It's Time To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/22/2003 9:29:31 PM Central Standard Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << Evelyn Duncan wrote: > him, and he took off with me on the other end of the leash > as if he were running toward the Mother Ship. Oh yes! I know that scene well. >> I'm glad he's a small dog; if he were as big as Daisy, I'd probably be needing a lot of bandages now. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 21:46:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN3ks6q000796 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:46:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 86FD01E6025C; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:39:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 566871E60250 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:39:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A55EBC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:32:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 506779 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:32:30 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN3WU331351 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:32:30 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123033225.EIRS20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:32:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC02A4B.ED380F63@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:32:27 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: new refrigerator References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: > I can attest to that. For some reason it's all the rage now to bash > tap water. Everyone's into drinking only bottled or filtered water. > I don't get it - we have very safe drinking water here and it's > not considered cool to drink it. This is another example of why I love being in the academic world. I wasn't aware that it wasn't considered cool to drink tapwater. People in my world don't really stay on top of such trends. > I'll buy water at lunch as I don't like soda with a meal but drink > water out of the faucet at home. Appeals to the contrarian and > the cheapskate in me. Do you have to buy water at lunch? Free water isn't available? That strikes me as odd. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 21:49:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN3nR6q000823 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:49:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 516281E6025D; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:42:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21ECC1E60250 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:42:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A55EBD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:35:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 506799 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:35:03 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN3Z3331682 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:35:03 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-184-130.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.184.130]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAN3Z29u024849 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:35:02 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FC02A93.2050305@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:33:39 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Iron Bowl References: <20031123023359.92528.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> <3FC02843.EAD16778@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU And we're going to the championship game again this year, having beat Hazelwood East today (I may wear my WG shirt tomorrow to rub it in since several of the altar girls go to Hazelwood East). Meanwhile, we're heading into Turkey Day, which is our homecoming. The kids have been working for weeks to create the hall decorations, and they were busy putting them up when I left Friday afternoon. The school will be transformed -- the decorations are really quite elaborate. I still have hopes of getting Alyce's nieces/nephews some day and teaching them grammar in her memory. Natalie Maynor wrote: > Lynne Weber wrote: > > >>Tonight the big game in the state of Alabama is being >>played - Auburn vs. Alabama. Score at the half: >> Auburn - 18 >> Alabama - 2 >> >>Strange football score, eh? >> > > Yes, it is. And I had forgotten about football. Everybody around here > has. I've noticed that The Reflector (the student newspaper) has > continued to simply leave MSU out of its Friday prediction charts -- as > if MSU doesn't have a football team at all. It is very sad. I'm sure > the team is happy that in less than a week the misery will all be over. > We played (are playing -- I don't know whether it was day or night) > Arkansas today. The expected score by most people I know was about > 56-0. Then we have The Egg Bowl Thanksgiving night. It will be the > really, really sad one. Regardless of how a season has gone, it's > usually considered mega important by both teams. Not this year. > Football has been removed from MSU consciousness altogether. Nobody > cares anymore since there is no hope of any kind. I bet the ESPN people > are unhappy that they're committed to broadcasting that game. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 21:50:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN3o06q000838 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:50:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 03B941E6025C; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:42:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D0E1E60250 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:42:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F3FBD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:35:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 506823 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:35:37 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN3Zb331777 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:35:37 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123033532.EJGV20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:35:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC02B05.DF4555DE@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:35:33 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <20031123025112.68668.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Betty is bad, but not baaaad. Anyway, I was told it > was all T.S.' doing, making her bad. I have a > sneaking suspicion, however, that she revels in every > bad moment. Yes, she revels in it. I'm not sure about TS's role in her becoming bad on the list. I do love her badness -- the way she will rock along seeming unbad for a while, though we all know it's lurking there, and then suddenly inject a gorgeous streak of badness. How long was she going to this Bear reserve in the RV? Surely it's not for long. We need her back soon. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 21:51:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN3pG6q000858 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:51:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7FE3A1E6025C; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:44:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD9B1E60250 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:44:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F3FBA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:36:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 506832 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:36:47 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN3al331921 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:36:47 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123033642.EJOM20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:36:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC02B4C.E4B95926@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:36:44 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <20031122043716.26148.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20031122063851.00a63c70@uclink.berkeley.edu> <001d01c3b14e$866901e0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FBFEEFC.3040303@swbell.net> <00c001c3b154$466b1d20$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FC007CC.C82CA84D@maynor.net> <000801c3b16d$7e9bd7c0$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > Oh, but that's why I'm busy. I'm getting > ready to return to nature. I will be by > the ocean tomorrow, where I can once > again meditate and/or revel. Rousseau is relieved. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 21:54:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN3s36q000881 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:54:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4A9211E6025C; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:46:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 191EC1E60250 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:46:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A55EC4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:39:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 506874 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:39:39 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAN3dd332330 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:39:39 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:39:32 PST Message-ID: <20031123033933.86112.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:39:32 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: It's Time To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FC02B05.DF4555DE@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > How long was she > going to this Bear reserve in the RV? Surely it's > not for long. We > need her back soon. Ha! Bear Reserve. You see, she only went because she saw M. Rosen's post, and she wanted to find out for herself - badly. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 22:00:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN40n6q000938 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:00:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A4FEB1E6025D; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:53:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E961E60250 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:53:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A55EDD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:46:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 507090 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:46:25 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN3kP300691 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:46:25 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAN3kOeO005232 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:46:24 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAN3kMa2005219; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:46:23 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031122194739.00a50900@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:48:37 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <3FBF9852.D834CF2@maynor.net> References: <20031122043716.26148.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20031122063851.00a63c70@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031122081018.00a457a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:09 AM 11/22/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty wrote: > > > You may never hear from us again. We have just packed up the RV and heading > > for the Big Game in Stanford. We've never done this before and probably > > never will again but what the hell. > >I really have blocked fb from my brain! I first read this as being >about a big-game reservation somewhere -- a place for safaris. . We won! It was a great day. Parking was in a eucalyptus grove with friendly people. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 22:00:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN40p6q000948 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:00:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 750A41E6025D; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:53:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D701E60250 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:53:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A55ED5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:46:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 507094 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:46:27 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN3kR300696 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:46:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123034622.ELOK20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:46:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC02D8F.3FC8D3AB@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:46:23 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <20031123022645.95161.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> <3FC02165.80936FF8@maynor.net> <004501c3b16e$65ef3400$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > he will come see us in Honolulu and we'll celebrate then. Sounds fun! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 22:01:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN41c6q000961 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:01:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 86C501E6025D; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:54:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 574511E60250 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:54:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A55EDC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:47:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 507141 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:47:14 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN3lE300770 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:47:14 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123034709.ELTA20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:47:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC02DBF.A704E21E@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:47:11 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <31.410ac1cf.2cf18105@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > I've been giving Sweetie extra attention when Bennie's asleep. A wise mother, you are. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 22:01:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN41k6q000964 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:01:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D22741E6025D; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:54:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2F1D1E60250 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:54:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55ECB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:47:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 507150 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:47:23 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN3lM300780 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:47:22 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAN3lHeO005628 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:47:21 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAN3lGa2005611; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:47:17 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031122194917.00a83dd0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:49:31 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <3FBF108F.31759.13D7D7@localhost> References: <4.2.2.20031122063748.00a75b30@uclink.berkeley.edu> <004801c3b0c3$e18c85a0$e1cadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:30 AM 11/22/2003 -1000, Michael E. Macmillan wrote: >On 22 Nov 2003 at 6:38, Betty wrote: > > > Yeah, yeah. Rub it in. > >All you're missing right now is rain, wind, and big surf. Fun to watch! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 22:03:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN4336q000971 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:03:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AB0401E6025D; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:55:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 785331E60250 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:55:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F3FE2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:48:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 507214 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:48:39 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN3md300857 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:48:39 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAN3maQb002629 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:48:37 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000401c3b174$ba0c5940$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031122043716.26148.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20031122063851.00a63c70@uclink.berkeley.edu> <001d01c3b14e$866901e0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FC005C1.18C752CF@maynor.net> <000801c3b15e$04d647e0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FC009E1.77E18064@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: It's Time Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:48:58 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Both are Wordsworth, but different poems. "Shades of the prisonhouse > close upon the growing boy" (also from memory -- perhaps not quoted > exactly correctly -- I haven't Romantic poetry in over thirty > years) is from Wordsworth's "Ode: Intimations of Immortality" -- > "nothing can bring back the splendor in the grass, the glory in the > flower" etc. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > Our birth is but a sleep and a forgetting: The Soul that rises with us, our life's Star, Hath had elsewhere its setting, And cometh from afar: Not in entire forgetfulness, And not in utter nakedness, But trailing clouds of glory do we come From God, who is our home: Heaven lies about us in our infancy! Shades of the prison-house begin to close Upon the growing Boy, But he beholds the light, and whence it flows, He sees it in his joy; The Youth, who daily farther from the east Must travel, still is Nature's priest, And by the vision splendid Is on his way attended; At length the Man perceives it die away, And fade into the light of common day. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 22:03:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN43M6q000974 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:03:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D9B771E6025D; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:56:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9EA71E60250 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:56:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A55EEE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:48:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 507230 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:48:59 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN3mw300885 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:48:58 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123034853.EMDE20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:48:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC02E27.3ED28DD2@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:48:55 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <1c4.1212a957.2cf18401@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > I'm glad he's a small dog; if he were as big as Daisy, I'd > probably be needing a lot of bandages now. The older I get, the more careful I am when first setting out on walks with Spencer, when he races down the steps outside the kitchen door. I concentrate on balance and a firm hand on the leash. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 22:06:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN46s6q001000 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:06:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A23471E60283; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:59:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 713131E60282 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:59:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55EE5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:52:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 507390 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:52:30 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN3qU301122 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:52:30 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAN3qT2f026106 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:52:29 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAN3qRJC026096; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:52:28 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031122195426.00a325b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:54:42 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <000a01c3b14b$e83a3c20$e1cadece@0018079268> References: <3FBED02A.5217FBA5@maynor.net> <3FBE4A2A.10652.1D67DF7@localhost> <4.2.2.20031122063748.00a75b30@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:56 PM 11/22/2003 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: > > >Mem, you do indeed show up here > > >now and then. > > > > > >You know I will be over there soooooon. > > > > > >Well, not soon enough. > > > > Yeah, yeah. Rub it in. Is your son still home, Doris? > > > > Betty > >Yes he's home and back to work at the base, >for now. > >We are going to Florida tomorrow to be with >him and his family for Thanksgiving. > > - D. M. Wonderful. Enjoy! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 22:08:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN48D6q001013 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:08:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CC9741E60282; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:01:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CF651E6025D for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:01:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A55EFD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:53:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 507440 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:53:49 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN3rn301176 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:53:49 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123035344.ENBV20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:53:44 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC02F4A.AB5466DE@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:53:46 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Iron Bowl References: <20031123023359.92528.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> <3FC02843.EAD16778@maynor.net> <3FC02A93.2050305@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > The kids have been working for weeks to create > the hall decorations, and they were busy putting them up > when I left Friday afternoon. The school will be > transformed -- the decorations are really quite elaborate. Reminds me of the major, major work done in anticipation of The School Festival in Japan. My students were amazed when asking about our school festivals in the USA and learning that we didn't have anything quite like that. I tried to explain Homecoming to them, but they seemed mystified. They get a whole week off from school for School Festival. The festival itself, at least at Meisei, didn't seem really all that exciting to me. But it's considered a . > I still have hopes of getting Alyce's nieces/nephews some day > and teaching them grammar in her memory. I thought about Alyce today, wondering what she would think about the fact that I not only was in Walmart but kissed a Republican while there. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 22:08:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN48K6q001016 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:08:20 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B4B5D1E60282; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:01:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 850071E6025D for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:01:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55EEB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:53:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 507444 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:53:56 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAN3ru301181 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:53:56 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:53:51 PST Message-ID: <20031123035351.82127.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:53:51 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: It's Time To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FC02E27.3ED28DD2@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > The older I get, the more careful I am when first > setting out on walks > with Spencer, when he races down the steps outside > the kitchen door. I > concentrate on balance and a firm hand on the leash. I have never broken a bone (X) and become daily more concerned about doing so. I am extra careful, I am at the age (57) when it would be a lot more serious than just a few years ago. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 22:09:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN49x6q001036 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:09:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5FC211E60282; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:02:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E8261E6025D for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:02:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A55F0C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:55:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 507562 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:55:35 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN3tZ301286 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:55:35 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123035530.ENNC20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:55:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC02FB3.195E166C@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:55:31 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <20031123033933.86112.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > How long was she > > going to this Bear reserve in the RV? Surely it's > > not for long. We > > need her back soon. > > Ha! Bear Reserve. You see, she only went because she > saw M. Rosen's post, and she wanted to find out for > herself - badly. Actually, I don't think she was going to a bear reserve. I think she was representing bears at another reserve. Her parting words, though, were "Go Bears," which might mean she was trying to drive them away. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 22:10:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN4AA6q001040 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:10:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D43B01E60282; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:03:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A414C1E6025D for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:03:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55EFA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:55:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 507566 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:55:47 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAN3tl301291 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:55:47 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:55:41 PST Message-ID: <20031123035541.29082.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:55:41 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Iron Bowl To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FC02F4A.AB5466DE@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > > I still have hopes of getting Alyce's > nieces/nephews some day > > and teaching them grammar in her memory. > > I thought about Alyce today, wondering what she > would think about the > fact that I not only was in Walmart but kissed a > Republican while there. Double dipper. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 22:11:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN4Bv6q001045 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:11:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D8DF41E60283; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:04:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A87FE1E60282 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:04:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A55F2C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:57:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 507751 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:57:34 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN3vX301485 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:57:33 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.198]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123035728.ENWT20840.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:57:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC0302A.C32A4F50@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:57:30 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <20031122043716.26148.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20031122063851.00a63c70@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031122081018.00a457a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031122194739.00a50900@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU SHE'S BACK! Now that we know that they've safely returned from the safari, I can log off and go to bed and look forward to reading more reports tomorrow on bear genitalia, etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 22:15:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN4Fp6q001087 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:15:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 608D01E60283; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:08:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F9E01E60282 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:08:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A55F9F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 23:01:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 508904 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 23:01:26 -0500 Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN41Q302249 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 23:01:26 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.a4.3fc95cb6 (16633) for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 23:01:15 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 23:01:15 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] It's Time To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/22/2003 9:47:35 PM Central Standard Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << Evelyn Duncan wrote: > I've been giving Sweetie extra attention when Bennie's asleep. A wise mother, you are. >> I hope for the day in which they can both accept each other as friends. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 22:22:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN4ME6q001198 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:22:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7482A1E60283; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:15:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 403071E60256 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:15:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A560CE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 23:07:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 510963 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 23:07:50 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN47o303262 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 23:07:50 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAN47neO018901 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:07:49 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAN47la2018883; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:07:48 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031122200916.00a90160@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:10:02 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <3FC02B05.DF4555DE@maynor.net> References: <20031123025112.68668.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:35 PM 11/22/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Lynne Weber wrote: > > > Betty is bad, but not baaaad. Anyway, I was told it > > was all T.S.' doing, making her bad. I have a > > sneaking suspicion, however, that she revels in every > > bad moment. > >Yes, she revels in it. I'm not sure about TS's role in her becoming bad >on the list. I do love her badness -- the way she will rock along >seeming unbad for a while, though we all know it's lurking there, and >then suddenly inject a gorgeous streak of badness. How long was she >going to this Bear reserve in the RV? Surely it's not for long. We >need her back soon. . It was all his fault. He accused me of being too . Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 22:26:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN4Ql6q001259 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:26:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 89D6F1E60286; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:19:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A7F81E60285 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:19:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A56138@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 23:12:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 511817 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 23:12:23 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAN4CN303884 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 23:12:23 -0500 Received: from [208.61.191.249] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:12:18 PST Message-ID: <20031123041218.56891.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:12:18 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: It's Time To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031122200916.00a90160@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Betty wrote: > It was all his fault. He accused me of being too > . You showed HIM, didn't you? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 23:03:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN53q6q001696 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 23:03:52 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EF6491E60286; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:56:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF2B41E6025F for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:56:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A56177@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 23:49:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 512547 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 23:49:28 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN4nR306775 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 23:49:27 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAN4nNQb017874 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:49:25 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000401c3b17d$37fd95a0$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031123023359.92528.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> <3FC02843.EAD16778@maynor.net> <3FC02A93.2050305@swbell.net> <3FC02F4A.AB5466DE@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Iron Bowl Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:49:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I thought about Alyce today, wondering what she would think about the > fact that I not only was in Walmart but kissed a Republican while there. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Hm. You have a Matelin/Carville relationship, perhaps. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 22 23:25:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN5Pv6q002045 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 23:25:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C75C41E6028D; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 23:18:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B3C61E60291 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 23:18:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A562AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 0:11:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 514103 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 00:10:43 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f17.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.17]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAN51P308450 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 00:01:25 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:01:19 -0800 Received: from 162.33.242.121 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 05:01:19 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.33.242.121] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: new refrigerator Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 05:01:19 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Nov 2003 05:01:19.0796 (UTC) FILETIME=[D53BAF40:01C3B17E] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: >Do you have to buy water at lunch? Free water isn't available? That >strikes me as odd. I often go out with the guys and it's easier to buy a bottle of water at some of the places we go to. I take advantage of free water when I eat at my desk. _________________________________________________________________ >From the hottest toys to tips on keeping fit this winter, you’ll find a range of helpful holiday info here. http://special.msn.com/network/happyholidays.armx From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 06:10:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANCA66q006553 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:10:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AD00C1E60264; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:02:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 797B21E60018 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:02:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A56622@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 6:55:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 521349 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:55:39 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANBgb301259 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:42:37 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hANBfcm9005180 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:41:40 -0500 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:42:34 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dear God . . In-Reply-To: <3FC01FFC.83D9A1A7@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> <006501c3b150$d3a1c440$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FC0070D.995A1541@maynor.net> <3FC01FFC.83D9A1A7@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >argue with that. Or at least I certainly wouldn't. But I do get pretty >turned off by your brand of religion when you make snide and >condescending comments about other people's personal religious views. >You will, of course, come back in a rush of fake claiming >that you have never done any such thing. I will not bother to go to the >archives and point out the rather insulting things you've said just in >the past twenty-four hours, not to mention at other times. Of course! - it is much easier to over-generalize when one excuses oneself from offering evidence! In this round, you are definitely the pot, having offered a gratuitous insult to anyone who likes having an ice/water dispenser. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 06:10:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANCA86q006556 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:10:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B64911E60264; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:03:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 861F21E60018 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:03:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5662B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 6:55:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 521352 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:55:41 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANBje301402 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:45:40 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hANBihm9005882 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:44:43 -0500 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:45:40 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dear God . . In-Reply-To: <3FC020C3.6D268E94@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FBFD5C0.4F6307E4@maynor.net> <3FBFE6B2.817083F9@maynor.net> <3FC00883.D1F1046A@maynor.net> <3FC020C3.6D268E94@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I'm not going to go search for your exact words, but you certainly >suggested that other people needed instruction when you said something >like "most people don't know how to do [or maybe it was understand -- >something like that] the morning and evening prayers." That's a very interesting interpretation. What I said was that many people know little about MP and EP. That is NOT the same thing as saying that they need instruction. (Are you feeling guilty?) If I said that few people speak Tarascan would you assume that I mean that all people need instruction in Tarascan? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 06:13:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANCDh6q006570 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:13:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 412701E60264; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:06:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C9491E60018 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:06:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A56618@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 6:59:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 521388 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:59:08 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANBn7301540 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:49:07 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hANBmAm9006761 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:48:10 -0500 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:49:07 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: invocations In-Reply-To: <3FC026C5.8D8B70A@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FC026C5.8D8B70A@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >and will consider it that I do so. That is such an easy thing to do. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 07:19:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANDJ26q007245 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:19:02 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EE6841E60265; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:11:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE0801E60238 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:11:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5667B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 8:04:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 522170 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:04:34 -0500 Received: from mailer.democrats.org ([208.254.24.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAND4Y304867 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:04:34 -0500 Received: (qmail 21197 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2003 13:07:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) (192.168.0.23) by 192.168.0.51 with SMTP; 23 Nov 2003 13:07:37 -0000 Message-Id: <200311231304.hAND4Y304867@listserv.cc.uga.edu> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:02:41 GMT Subject: Take Action on Democrats.org From: natalie@maynor.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor has asked the Democratic Party to tell you about the following action center on Democrats.org. Protect Medicare from the GOP's Privatization Scheme The GOP Medicare privatization bill is a raw deal for America's seniors. Sign our petition below and send your message to President Bush and Republican leaders in Congress telling them to work with Democrats to pass a real prescription drug benefit for Medicare instead of their privatization boondoggle. Click here to take action today! http://www.democrats.org/action/200311200001.html?psc= Natalie Maynor 's comments: Please help save Medicare! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 07:25:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANDPj6q007299 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:25:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 276AA1E602DD; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:18:38 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E74E71E602C9 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:18:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A56684@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 8:11:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 522256 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:11:18 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANDBH305122 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:11:17 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hANDBEQb006912 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:11:16 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000801c3b1c3$53dc6e40$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Early Morningitis Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:11:37 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hANDPj6q007299 Reading the headline "Striking California clerks", I think to myself "Now who would do that?" - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 07:32:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANDWr6q007359 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:32:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 927401E602D4; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:25:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62A031E6001E for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:25:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A56687@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 8:18:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 522511 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:18:25 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANDIP305697 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:18:25 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123131820.PZSO2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:18:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC0B39D.8EA1C253@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:18:21 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <20031122043716.26148.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20031122063851.00a63c70@uclink.berkeley.edu> <001d01c3b14e$866901e0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FC005C1.18C752CF@maynor.net> <000801c3b15e$04d647e0$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FC009E1.77E18064@maynor.net> <000401c3b174$ba0c5940$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > Not in entire forgetfulness, > And not in utter nakedness, > But trailing clouds of glory do we come > From God, who is our home: And it was here that Worsdworth differed slightly from Plato. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 07:34:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANDYF6q007372 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:34:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 648401E602D4; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:27:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 344E11E6001E for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:27:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A56688@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 8:19:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 522542 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:19:48 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANDJm305806 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:19:48 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123131943.PZZM2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:19:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC0B3F0.8E6394A4@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:19:44 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <20031123025112.68668.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20031122200916.00a90160@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > It was all his fault. He accused me of being too . It is a good thing Tushykins did in bringing out your inner bad. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 07:35:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANDZx6q007379 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:35:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D94091E602C9; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:28:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6A151E6001E for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:28:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5669E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 8:21:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 522584 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:21:31 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANDLV305900 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:21:31 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123132126.QAGL2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:21:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC0B458.DE82A3DC@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:21:28 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Iron Bowl References: <20031123023359.92528.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> <3FC02843.EAD16778@maynor.net> <3FC02A93.2050305@swbell.net> <3FC02F4A.AB5466DE@maynor.net> <000401c3b17d$37fd95a0$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > I thought about Alyce today, wondering what she would think about the > > fact that I not only was in Walmart but kissed a Republican while > there. > > Hm. You have a Matelin/Carville > relationship, perhaps. Sort of. But we aren't likely to get married since he has a very nice wife. He did tell me that he was going to call me sometime soon and take me out to see his new cabin in the woods. I don't think he meant that to be like showing me his etchings, though. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 07:38:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANDcM6q007404 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:38:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 11F9B1E602D4; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:31:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D54341E6001E for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:31:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A566A3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 8:23:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 522629 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:23:55 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANDNs306004 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:23:54 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123132349.QAPY2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:23:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC0B4E7.D31B8477@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:23:51 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dear God . . References: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> <006501c3b150$d3a1c440$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FC0070D.995A1541@maynor.net> <3FC01FFC.83D9A1A7@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >archives and point out the rather insulting things you've said just in > >the past twenty-four hours, not to mention at other times. > > Of course! - it is much easier to over-generalize when one excuses > oneself from offering evidence! In this round, you are definitely the > pot, having offered a gratuitous insult to anyone who likes having an > ice/water dispenser. See it as you choose. It is clear to me that you aren't likely to understand my religious views. Your comments about , sin, invocations, my , etc. make that pretty obvious. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 07:40:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANDe36q007427 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:40:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 003AF1E602DD; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:32:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5D7D1E6001E for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:32:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A566AF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 8:25:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 522665 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:25:36 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANDPZ306112 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:25:35 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123132530.QAWQ2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:25:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC0B54C.FEA90F43@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:25:32 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dear God . . References: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FBFD5C0.4F6307E4@maynor.net> <3FBFE6B2.817083F9@maynor.net> <3FC00883.D1F1046A@maynor.net> <3FC020C3.6D268E94@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > What I said was that many > people know little about MP and EP. That is NOT the same thing as saying > that they need instruction. (Are you feeling guilty?) Guilty about knowing little about MP and EP? Again you are suggesting that your way is The Right Way. Why should I care about MP and EP? > If I said that few people speak Tarascan would you assume that I mean > that all people need instruction in Tarascan? That would depend upon the context. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 07:42:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANDgN6q007441 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:42:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 784011E60320; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:35:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 444C61E602DD for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:35:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A56697@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 8:27:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 522692 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:27:56 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANDRu306229 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:27:56 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123132751.QBGD2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:27:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC0B5D9.BF45DBF@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:27:53 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: invocations References: <3FC026C5.8D8B70A@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >and will consider it that I do so. > > That is such an easy thing to do. And life should be made as difficult as possible, of course. Again I will say that your choice to make yours difficult and complicated and ruleful is fine with me. I prefer simplicity. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 07:43:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANDhO6q007446 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:43:25 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7B7E41E602DD; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:36:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A7401E6001E for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:36:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A566AA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 8:28:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 522700 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:28:57 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANDSv306265 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:28:57 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123132852.QBJT2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:28:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC0B616.2B579AE5@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:28:54 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Early Morningitis References: <000801c3b1c3$53dc6e40$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > Reading the headline "Striking California clerks", > I think to myself "Now who would do that?" What's the weather doing? Are you going to make it to the airport ok? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 07:56:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANDuv6q007675 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:56:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 86D981E602DD; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:49:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F34F1E6001E for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:49:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A566AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 8:42:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 522876 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:42:29 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law9-oe56.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.191]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANDgT306960 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:42:29 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 05:42:23 -0800 Received: from 199.174.1.136 by law9-oe56.law9.hotmail.com with DAV; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:42:23 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [199.174.1.136] X-Originating-Email: [amyb_short@hotmail.com] From: "Amy Burns Short" To: Subject: Re: Early Morningitis Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:41:14 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Nov 2003 13:42:23.0741 (UTC) FILETIME=[9FFF1AD0:01C3B1C7] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >What's the weather doing? Are you going to make it to the airport ok? Well, here it was warm enough to sleep with the windows open last night (that will soon finish -- by this evening), and John made it to airports in Phoenix, Houston and Nashville just fine. And he makes such wonderful coffee. :). AS From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 07:59:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANDxc6q007699 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:59:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B3F7C1E602DD; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:52:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80EF91E6001E for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:52:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A566B0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 8:45:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 522923 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:45:10 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANDjA307138 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:45:10 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-225.inebraska.com [206.222.202.225]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hANDj8Qb029389 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:45:09 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000c01c3b1c8$10182820$e1cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000801c3b1c3$53dc6e40$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FC0B616.2B579AE5@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Early Morningitis Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:45:31 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Doris Markland wrote: > > > > Reading the headline "Striking California clerks", > > I think to myself "Now who would do that?" > > What's the weather doing? Are you going to make it to the airport ok? > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) We had a little freezing rain last night, followed by snow. We will be driving in more snow today. Not huge quantities but there will be a high wind, so there could be drifting. Our plane doesn't leave until 3:30, so we will leave this morning and have plenty of time to get there . . in case we have to drive slowly. And we are driving the pickup, with 4-wheel drive. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 08:12:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANECQ6q007882 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:12:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C02DF1E60328; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:05:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 904741E602DD for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:05:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A566D8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 8:57:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 523106 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:57:58 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANDvw307713 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:57:58 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F46A7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 8:57:57 -0500 Message-Id: <200311231357.hANDvw307713@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:57:58 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: ER To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:51:26 EST, Evelyn Duncan wrote: >In a message dated 11/22/2003 3:46:16 PM Central Standard Time, >Karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: ><< >>I am convinced that he works in the ER to show his expertise, not >>because of love of his patients. Romano? He started out not working in ER - he was Chief Surgeon till he lost his arm. He became head of OR because he couldn't do what he loved anymore. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 08:15:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANEF66q007906 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:15:06 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 7A6651E60328; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:07:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A88F1E602DD for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:07:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A566EC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 9:00:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 523205 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:00:38 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANE0c308076 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:00:38 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F4683@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 9:00:37 -0500 Message-Id: <200311231400.hANE0c308076@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:00:38 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: It's Time To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:53:43 -0500, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: >At 02:42 PM 11/22/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >>--- Alan Wild wrote: >>William and I are off to the bike path to >> > walk 8 miles or so and >> > talk about why he needs to do better than a fucking >> > zero (0) on the next 4th >> > grade spelling test. >> >> >>I really am curious, now. Did he refuse to >>participate in the spelling test? I mean, is getting >>"0" some form of rebellion? Or does William just not >>care for words? > >Perhaps he is studying the Bethany Dumas Spelling Handbook. > >cwv It would be interesting for William to be able to talk to Dad about why it was important to get a 0 on the last one. I found with my kids that the time I spent with my mouth shut was the most useful parenting I did. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 08:31:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANEVs6q008074 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:31:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CF9361E60329; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:24:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B3991E60328 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:24:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F46CB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 9:17:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 523404 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:17:26 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANEHQ309128 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:17:26 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-219.gwi.net [216.195.151.219]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hANEHOAr028806 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:17:24 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031123091039.00b2cb68@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:17:41 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <20031123035351.82127.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> References: <3FC02E27.3ED28DD2@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >--- Natalie > > The older I get, the more careful I am when first > > setting out on walks > > with Spencer, when he races down the steps outside > > the kitchen door. I > > concentrate on balance and a firm hand on the leash. > >--Lynne >I have never broken a bone (X) and become daily more >concerned about doing so. I am extra careful, I am at >the age (57) when it would be a lot more serious than >just a few years ago. At last, we are told that Lynne is aged. Now I have to get that 34-year-old picture out of my mind. Natalie has osteoporosis, confirmed by a bone scan. But she won't take Fosomax. Half of the 57-year-old women I know are on Fosomax. I should probably be on it. I had my first bone density test a little over two years ago. I have low bone density for my age but not to the point of osteoporosis. I went on calcium and a weight lifting routine. I had the second test two months ago. I've not quite held my own. But my doctor and I agreed that I can continue with my routines and avoid Fosomax for the time being. One of my 57-year-old friends (now 58 or 59 I think) sat down on March 1st at a wedding reception onto the spot on the floor where her chair had recently been. She broke her hip. Wow. You don't want to do that. Two months of therapy at her home while she couldn't go to work. A walker, then crutches, then a cane. She still has a bit of a limp. It was a long, painful haul recovering from that. She is now happily on Fosomax. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 08:33:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANEXZ6q008104 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:33:35 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E39871E6032A; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:26:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B37231E602DD for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:26:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A566FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 9:19:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 523430 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:19:07 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANEJ7309206 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:19:07 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-219.gwi.net [216.195.151.219]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hANEJ1Gn059395 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:19:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031123091829.00b89e00@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:19:19 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I hope for the day in which they can both accept each other >as friends. --Evelyn Duncan That's a little too much to hope for. Just hope for the day when they recognize that they are siblings and must share the house in some semblance of peace. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 08:39:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANEdt6q008211 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:39:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 55F271E6032A; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:32:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 264DF1E60329 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:32:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F46A4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 9:25:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 523518 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:25:27 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANEPQ309469 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:25:27 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-219.gwi.net [216.195.151.219]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hANEPKAr031621 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:25:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031123092039.00b8cc40@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:25:39 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Dear God . . In-Reply-To: References: <3FC01FFC.83D9A1A7@maynor.net> <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> <006501c3b150$d3a1c440$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FC0070D.995A1541@maynor.net> <3FC01FFC.83D9A1A7@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >In this round, you are definitely the >pot, having offered a gratuitous insult to anyone who likes having an >ice/water dispenser. --Bethany Your logic is very weak. If Natalie believes that the war in Iraq is about retaining the over-indulgent American lifestyle, that does not imply that the over-indulgent American lifestyle is the cause of the war. It's possible we could maintain this lifestyle by other means than taking over the countries that supply oil. In fact, it may be a totally mistaken conclusion on the part of the Bush cronies that we even need to take over these countries to maintain our lifestyle. It's possible that a more clever, more thoughtful American government could actually preserve our environment, make peace with those who hate us, and still find ways for the USA to survive which would only minimally alter American over-indulgence. Our young people might not have to die in order for us to have our SUVs. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 08:50:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANEoB6q008288 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:50:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 42D8E1E6032C; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:43:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11EB91E6032A for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:43:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F46B4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 9:35:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 523657 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:35:43 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANEZg310851 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:35:42 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hANEZf2f010666 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:35:41 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hANEZeJC010652; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:35:41 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031123063723.00a3eb00@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:37:56 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Early Morningitis In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:41 AM 11/23/2003 -0600, Amy Burns Short wrote: > >What's the weather doing? Are you going to make it to the airport ok? > >Well, here it was warm enough to sleep with the windows open last night >(that will soon finish -- by this evening), and John made it to airports in >Phoenix, Houston and Nashville just fine. > >And he makes such wonderful coffee. :). > >AS You're going to both save a ton of money when you don't have this commute! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 08:51:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANEpu6q008294 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:51:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B23F41E6032C; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:44:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82B2A1E6032A for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:44:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A56713@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 9:37:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 523702 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:37:28 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANEbS311005 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:37:28 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hANEbRW1020754 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:37:27 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hANEbNWq020727; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:37:24 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031123063854.00a3f280@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:39:39 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <200311231400.hANE0c308076@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:00 AM 11/23/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >It would be interesting for William to be able to talk >to Dad about why it was important to get a 0 on the last >one. I found with my kids that the time I spent with my >mouth shut was the most useful parenting I did. > >clo Listen up, 'Al. William doesn't have to be the best speller. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 08:52:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANEqx6q008298 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:52:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 49AF41E6032C; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:45:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18B221E6032A for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:45:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5671F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 9:38:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 523730 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:38:31 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANEcV311113 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:38:31 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F46EE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 9:38:30 -0500 Message-Id: <200311231438.hANEcV311113@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:38:31 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: It's Time To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:19:19 -0500, bonniev wrote: >>I hope for the day in which they can both accept each other >>as friends. --Evelyn Duncan > >That's a little too much to hope for. Just hope for the day when they >recognize that they are siblings and must share the house in some semblance >of peace. > > >bonnie Most of the animals we've had who started hating each other ended by sleeping curled together. The two cats we have currently had to be kept in separate parts of the house for months, at first. Like siblings, they still fight, but mostly in play. At one point we had a dog and cat that began as mortal enemies, and ended as best friends (sadly, the cat - a Snowshoe Siamese - had cancer). clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 08:54:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANEsl6q008330 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:54:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BC4F71E6032D; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:47:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C1121E6032C for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:47:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A56709@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 9:40:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 523779 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:40:14 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hANEeE311299 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:40:14 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:40:09 PST Message-ID: <20031123144009.89130.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:40:09 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Early Morningitis To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <000801c3b1c3$53dc6e40$e1cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > Reading the headline "Striking California clerks", > I think to myself "Now who would do that?" > > - D. M. Another from CAL: President of striking transit union: "I'm sorry about the strike, but I'm not going to apologize." Btw, which Florida coast will you be enjoying? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 09:03:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANF3j6q008473 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:03:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 753271E60336; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:56:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D551E6032F for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:56:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F46CA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 9:49:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 523868 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:49:11 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANEnB311801 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:49:11 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123144905.IKZJ3345.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:49:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC0C8E4.10D722AC@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:49:08 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Early Morningitis References: <000801c3b1c3$53dc6e40$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FC0B616.2B579AE5@maynor.net> <000c01c3b1c8$10182820$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > plane doesn't leave until 3:30, so we will leave > this morning and have plenty of time to get > there . . in case we have to drive slowly. > And we are driving the pickup, with 4-wheel > drive. Wise. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 09:04:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANF4C6q008476 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:04:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2FEBD1E60336; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:57:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 003551E6032F for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:57:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A56725@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 9:49:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 523883 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:49:44 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANEnh311822 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:49:43 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123144938.ILEN3345.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:49:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC0C904.7D1FC31C@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:49:40 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Early Morningitis References: <000801c3b1c3$53dc6e40$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FC0B616.2B579AE5@maynor.net> <000c01c3b1c8$10182820$e1cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU PS: How long is the drive to Omaha? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 09:07:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANF786q008500 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:07:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E85221E60350; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:00:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B901E60339 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:00:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A56727@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 9:52:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 523907 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:52:40 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hANEqe312017 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:52:40 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:52:35 PST Message-ID: <20031123145235.732.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:52:35 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: It's Time To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031123091039.00b2cb68@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: > At last, we are told that Lynne is aged. Now I have > to get that > 34-year-old picture out of my mind. My son will be 40 next April, but you could not have known that. Our 32nd wedding anniversary will take place March 10. > > Natalie has osteoporosis, confirmed by a bone scan. > But she won't take > Fosomax. Half of the 57-year-old women I know are > on Fosomax. I do not take it, as I have never been advised to do so. The bone scan I had two years ago was satisfactory, which surprised the tech, as I was "thin" at time, which makes you more vulnerable. I am no longer thin, I weigh in now at 126, very much on the high side for me. Maybe I should have another density test, though. > > One of my 57-year-old friends (now 58 or 59 I think) > sat down on March 1st > at a wedding reception onto the spot on the floor > where her chair had > recently been. She broke her hip. Wow. You don't > want to do that. Two > months of therapy at her home while she couldn't go > to work. A walker, > then crutches, then a cane. She still has a bit of > a limp. That is one of my nightmares. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 09:08:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANF8g6q008610 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:08:42 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E34951E60336; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:01:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B03421E6032F for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:01:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A56729@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 9:54:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 523922 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:54:14 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hANEsE312112 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:54:14 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:54:09 PST Message-ID: <20031123145409.92711.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:54:09 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Dear God . . To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031123092039.00b8cc40@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: > Your logic is very weak. If Natalie believes that > the war in Iraq is about > retaining the over-indulgent American lifestyle, > that does not imply that > the over-indulgent American lifestyle is the cause > of the war. It's > possible we could maintain this lifestyle by other > means than taking over > the countries that supply oil. In fact, it may be a > totally mistaken > conclusion on the part of the Bush cronies that we > even need to take over > these countries to maintain our lifestyle. It's > possible that a more > clever, more thoughtful American government could > actually preserve our > environment, make peace with those who hate us, and > still find ways for the > USA to survive which would only minimally alter > American > over-indulgence. Our young people might not have to > die in order for us to > have our SUVs. Yes, I think this is good, bonniev. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 09:08:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANF8n6q008613 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:08:49 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C66041E60339; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:01:41 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9647D1E60336 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:01:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A56717@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 9:54:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 523926 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:54:21 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANEsL312117 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:54:21 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123145416.IMOE3345.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:54:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC0CA1A.E9D9CA91@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:54:18 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <3FC02E27.3ED28DD2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031123091039.00b2cb68@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > At last, we are told that Lynne is aged. Now I have to get that > 34-year-old picture out of my mind. But she has lived in Alabama for thirty years and moved there after getting married, right? I had assumed from that that she wasn't a . > Natalie has osteoporosis, confirmed by a bone scan. But she won't take > Fosomax. Half of the 57-year-old women I know are on Fosomax. I should What? You're getting Fosamax mixed up with HRT. It's the latter that I kept just saying no to -- and was even happier with the decision I was already happy with when the evidence started trickling out that it was Not A Good Thing. My gut had already told me that. I have never said anything about refusing to take Fosamax, though I quite likely said at some point that I wasn't taking it since I wasn't always taking it. I've been taking it for a good while now, though. It strikes me as a thing to do. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 09:10:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANFAN6q008626 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:10:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E89561E60336; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:03:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9DF61E6032F for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:03:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A56733@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 9:55:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 523937 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:55:54 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hANEts312209 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:55:54 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:55:49 PST Message-ID: <20031123145549.93047.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:55:49 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: It's Time To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031123063854.00a3f280@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Betty wrote: > Listen up, 'Al. William doesn't have to be the best > speller. Yeah, BB, but 0? He'll have to sign his name some day. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 09:10:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANFAf6q008630 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:10:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0AE6A1E60336; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:03:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE7CF1E6032F for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:03:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A56719@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 9:56:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 523941 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:56:12 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANEuC312225 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:56:12 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123145607.INBA3345.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:56:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC0CA89.21DD8CB8@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:56:09 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dear God . . References: <3FC01FFC.83D9A1A7@maynor.net> <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> <006501c3b150$d3a1c440$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FC0070D.995A1541@maynor.net> <3FC01FFC.83D9A1A7@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031123092039.00b8cc40@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > If Natalie believes that the war in Iraq is about > retaining the over-indulgent American lifestyle, that does not imply that > the over-indulgent American lifestyle is the cause of the war. Correct. As I mentioned, I chose that particular example as a suggestion to Alan of something that would make more sense than talking about fighting for food. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 09:15:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANFFM6q008673 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:15:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 820381E60339; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:08:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50E901E60336 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:08:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F470B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 10:00:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 524024 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:00:54 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANF0s312522 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:00:54 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123150048.IOHE3345.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:00:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC0CBA3.499C9A6C@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:00:51 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Weather Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I am not looking forward to tomorrow. I like today much better. Sunday 75° | 35° Monday 46° | 27° from: wunderground -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 09:17:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANFHu6q008681 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:17:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B874B1E60339; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:10:48 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82B3B1E6032F for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:10:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A56736@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 10:03:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 524137 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:03:28 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hANF3S312775 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:03:28 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:03:23 PST Message-ID: <20031123150323.60314.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:03:23 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Weather To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FC0CBA3.499C9A6C@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > I am not looking forward to tomorrow. I like today > much better. > > Sunday > 75° | 35° > > Monday > 46° | 27° But of course. I start one week's vacation tomorrow, it would naturally turn cold. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 09:18:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANFId6q008702 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:18:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 726EE1E60339; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:11:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 419FF1E6032F for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:11:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A56737@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 10:04:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 524147 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:04:11 -0500 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANF4B312813 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:04:11 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.144.1d16a3bd (16484) for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:04:01 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <144.1d16a3bd.2cf22661@aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:04:01 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Weather To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It's 36 here; colder now than when I took Bennie out at 4. Didn't mean to get up then, but this guy who bums cigarettes off Mom knocked on my window to get one. Told him that Mom didn't have any. Not going to open my door at that time to anyone other than family, friends, or the police/fire/whatever. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 09:34:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANFYj6q008842 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:34:46 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 967971E6032F; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:27:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66BBB1E6000D for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:27:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5676C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 10:20:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 524472 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:20:17 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANFKH313840 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:20:17 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-219.gwi.net [216.195.151.219]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hANFKCGn077215 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:20:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031123101757.00ba0ea0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:20:30 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <3FC0CA1A.E9D9CA91@maynor.net> References: <3FC02E27.3ED28DD2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031123091039.00b2cb68@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I have never said anything about refusing to take Fosamax, though I quite >likely said at >some point that I wasn't taking it since I wasn't always taking it. >I've been taking it for a good while now, though. It strikes me as a > thing to do. -- Natalie Ohmygod!!!! How long have you been taking it? I remember back when you and Betty and I were tramping around New England that we were trying to tell you to take it. I also remember you refusing on list. I did not confuse HRT and Fosomax. I distinctly remember you pooh-poohing the whole osteoporosis thing. In any case, congratulations for accepting the sensible. Do you take it once a week? Any problems? Did you have a follow-up bone density test to see if it is helping? bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 09:36:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANFa86q008869 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:36:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4B7FA1E6032F; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:29:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AC8D1E6000D for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:29:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5675B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 10:21:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 524484 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:21:40 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANFLd313874 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:21:40 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hANFLc2f001132 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:21:38 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hANFLYJC001102; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:21:35 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031123072232.00a9c100@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:23:50 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <3FC0CA1A.E9D9CA91@maynor.net> References: <3FC02E27.3ED28DD2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031123091039.00b2cb68@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:54 AM 11/23/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >bonniev wrote: > > > At last, we are told that Lynne is aged. Now I have to get that > > 34-year-old picture out of my mind. > >But she has lived in Alabama for thirty years and moved there after >getting married, right? I had assumed from that that she wasn't a >. > > > Natalie has osteoporosis, confirmed by a bone scan. But she won't take > > Fosomax. Half of the 57-year-old women I know are on Fosomax. I should > >What? You're getting Fosamax mixed up with HRT. It's the latter that I >kept just saying no to -- and was even happier with the decision I was >already happy with when the evidence started trickling out that it was >Not A Good Thing. My gut had already told me that. I have never said >anything about refusing to take Fosamax, though I quite likely said at >some point that I wasn't taking it since I wasn't always taking it. >I've been taking it for a good while now, though. It strikes me as a > thing to do. Just for the record it's recommended that women quit smoking, too. http://web.mid-day.com/metro/malad/2003/october/67441.htm From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 09:37:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANFb86q008873 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:37:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A6F711E6032F; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:30:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 773471E6000D for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:30:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A56779@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 10:22:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 524508 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:22:40 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANFMe313950 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:22:40 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hANFMdW1010875 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:22:39 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hANFMaWq010860; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:22:37 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031123072432.00a93970@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:24:52 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <20031123145549.93047.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> References: <4.2.2.20031123063854.00a3f280@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:55 AM 11/23/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Betty wrote: > > Listen up, 'Al. William doesn't have to be the best > > speller. > >Yeah, BB, but 0? He'll have to sign his name some day. He has that part down! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 09:47:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANFlB6q009030 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:47:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 26CD91E6012E; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:40:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E79941E60016 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:40:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5677E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 10:32:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 524651 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:32:43 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANFWg314454 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:32:42 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-184-130.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.184.130]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hANFW8Vs024713 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:32:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FC0D2C8.300@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:31:20 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Iron Bowl References: <20031123023359.92528.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> <3FC02843.EAD16778@maynor.net> <3FC02A93.2050305@swbell.net> <3FC02F4A.AB5466DE@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: >> I still have hopes of getting Alyce's nieces/nephews some day >>and teaching them grammar in her memory. >> > > I thought about Alyce today, wondering what she would think about the > fact that I not only was in Walmart but kissed a Republican while there. She'd fear for your immortal soul. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 10:13:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANGDl6q009228 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:13:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A567CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 10:58:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 525359 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:58:52 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANFwp316404 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:58:51 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hANFwmiM029212 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:58:49 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:00:12 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <164859359.20031123100012@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: new refrigerator In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 22, 2003, Rashmi Murthy wrote: > I can attest to that. For some reason it's all the rage now to bash > tap water. Everyone's into drinking only bottled or filtered water. > I don't get it - we have very safe drinking water here and it's > not considered cool to drink it. It's a matter of taste. I drank tap water in Honolulu, but not many other places. From experience, I know that if the water tastes bad to me, I just won't drink the water. I had a bad experience with the resulting bad effects of not drinking enough water when I was 7 or so, and I don't care to repeat it any time soon. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 10:21:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANGLN6q009297 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:21:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 396581E60339; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:14:15 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 099F11E6032F for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:14:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A567D7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 11:06:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 525620 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:06:55 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANG6s316908 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:06:54 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123160649.JHFG3345.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:06:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC0DB1B.24776DBD@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:06:51 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weather References: <144.1d16a3bd.2cf22661@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > > It's 36 here; colder now than when I took Bennie out at 4. > Didn't mean to get up then, but this guy who bums cigarettes > off Mom knocked on my window to get one. Told him that > Mom didn't have any. Not going to open my door at that time > to anyone other than family, friends, or the police/fire/whatever. But didn't you have to open the door to take Bennie out? Did you make sure the man had left before opening it? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 10:24:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANGOM6q009323 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:24:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5C4E01E60339; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:17:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CB1A1E60011 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:17:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A567FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 11:09:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 525705 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:09:54 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANG9r317093 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:09:53 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hANG9qW1006903 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:09:52 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hANG9mWq006889; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:09:49 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031123080839.00aa44d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:12:04 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Clear, blue, water In-Reply-To: <164859359.20031123100012@WordWrite.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:00 AM 11/23/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Saturday, November 22, 2003, Rashmi Murthy wrote: > > I can attest to that. For some reason it's all the rage now to bash > > tap water. Everyone's into drinking only bottled or filtered water. > > I don't get it - we have very safe drinking water here and it's > > not considered cool to drink it. > >It's a matter of taste. I drank tap water in Honolulu, but not many >other places. From experience, I know that if the water tastes bad to >me, I just won't drink the water. I had a bad experience with the >resulting bad effects of not drinking enough water when I was 7 or so, >and I don't care to repeat it any time soon. > >Karen I think our occupational nurse told us that there were fewer controls/regulations in processing bottled water than then was tap water. I agree about the taste though. I can't stand to drink water in Los Angeles. Our water is fine and I refill my bottles that I take to the gym with tap water. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 10:24:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANGOS6q009326 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:24:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id CDC2E1E60339; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:17:19 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E72E1E60011 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:17:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A567E1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 11:09:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 525709 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:09:59 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANG9x317098 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:09:59 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hANG9uiM006705 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:09:57 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:11:20 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1156495530.20031123101120@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: It's Time In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031122194739.00a50900@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <20031122043716.26148.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20031122063851.00a63c70@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031122081018.00a457a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031122194739.00a50900@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 22, 2003, Betty wrote: > We won! It was a great day. Parking was in a eucalyptus grove with > friendly people. I miss the eucalyptus. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 10:27:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANGRw6q009366 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:27:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B52911E60339; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:20:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84EE61E60011 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:20:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A56806@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 11:13:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 525850 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:13:29 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANGDT317401 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:13:29 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hANGDR2f028092 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:13:28 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hANGDOJC028072; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:13:25 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031123081407.00a49ee0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:15:39 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Australia In-Reply-To: <1156495530.20031123101120@WordWrite.com> References: <4.2.2.20031122194739.00a50900@uclink.berkeley.edu> <20031122043716.26148.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20031122063851.00a63c70@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031122081018.00a457a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031122194739.00a50900@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:11 AM 11/23/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Saturday, November 22, 2003, Betty wrote: > > We won! It was a great day. Parking was in a eucalyptus grove with > > friendly people. > >I miss the eucalyptus. A few always fall down during storms around here. They should have left them in Australia. Speaking of Australia, we haven't heard from down under for a while. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 10:31:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANGVx6q009479 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:31:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4462C1E60339; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:24:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 143DC1E6001B for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:24:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F47F1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 11:17:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 525929 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:17:24 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANGHO317672 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:17:24 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hANGHLiM011536 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:17:22 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:18:45 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1175675520.20031123101845@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: ER In-Reply-To: <200311231357.hANDvw307713@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200311231357.hANDvw307713@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 23, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:51:26 EST, Evelyn Duncan wrote: >>In a message dated 11/22/2003 3:46:16 PM Central Standard Time, >>Karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: >><< >>>I am convinced that he works in the ER to show his expertise, not >>>because of love of his patients. > Romano? He started out not working in ER - he was Chief Surgeon till he lost > his arm. That's right, I forgot about that. Then my statement counts double. > He became head of OR because he couldn't do what he loved anymore. Nonsense; what he loves is showing off. He can do that in the ER fine. I watched the show last night, and I am afraid that he's gone forever. His reaction to the helicopter was kind of funny, in a really awful way. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 10:34:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANGYM6q009514 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:34:22 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 38E221E60011; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:27:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 042401E6000C for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:27:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5681B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 11:19:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 526068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:19:54 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANGJr317984 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:19:53 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hANGJSsb028270 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:19:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:21:16 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <341953774.20031123102116@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: It's Time In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031123091039.00b2cb68@pop.gwi.net> References: <3FC02E27.3ED28DD2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031123091039.00b2cb68@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 23, 2003, bonniev wrote: > At last, we are told that Lynne is aged. She said this in the very beginning. > I have low bone density for my age but not to the point of > osteoporosis. I went on calcium and a weight lifting routine. I had > the second test two months ago. I've not quite held my own. That's distressing. Don't forget the benefits of jumping. Did you buy a weighted vest? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 10:34:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANGYa6q009517 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:34:37 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4D75A1E60011; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:27:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E1781E6000C for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:27:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5681C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 11:20:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 525713 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:20:08 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANGA8317130 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:10:08 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hANG98cR009847 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:09:10 -0500 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:10:05 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: invocations In-Reply-To: <3FC0B5D9.BF45DBF@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FC026C5.8D8B70A@maynor.net> <3FC0B5D9.BF45DBF@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 23 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> That is such an easy thing to do. > >And life should be made as difficult as possible, of course. Again I >will say that your choice to make yours difficult and complicated and >ruleful is fine with me. I prefer simplicity. LOL! My rules greatly simplify my life. Most voluntarily underaken rules do. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 10:35:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANGZf6q009523 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:35:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 313991E60011; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:28:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 007EB1E6000C for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:28:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F47FA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 11:21:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 526085 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:21:13 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANGLC318041 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:21:12 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hANGKlsb029188 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:20:48 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:22:36 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <346674213.20031123102236@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Dear God . . In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031123092039.00b8cc40@pop.gwi.net> References: <3FC01FFC.83D9A1A7@maynor.net> <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> <006501c3b150$d3a1c440$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FC0070D.995A1541@maynor.net> <3FC01FFC.83D9A1A7@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031123092039.00b8cc40@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 23, 2003, bonniev wrote: > Our young people might not have to die in order for us to > have our SUVs. You'll have to pry my ice-maker out of my cold, dead hands. Someone had to say it. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 10:35:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANGZj6q009526 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:35:45 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3FD761E60011; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:28:37 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F6971E6000C for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:28:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F47FF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 11:21:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 525722 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:21:17 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANGBH317183 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:11:17 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hANGAJcR011000 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:10:20 -0500 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:11:17 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dear God . . In-Reply-To: <3FC0B4E7.D31B8477@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> <006501c3b150$d3a1c440$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FC0070D.995A1541@maynor.net> <3FC01FFC.83D9A1A7@maynor.net> <3FC0B4E7.D31B8477@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 23 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >See it as you choose. It is clear to me that you aren't likely to >understand my religious views. Your comments about Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANGaE6q009537 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:36:14 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 344DA1E60011; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:29:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D0A1E6000C for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:29:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A56816@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 11:21:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 525778 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:21:46 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANGBk317272 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:11:46 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hANGAmcR011501 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:10:49 -0500 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:11:46 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dear God . . In-Reply-To: <3FC0B54C.FEA90F43@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FBFD5C0.4F6307E4@maynor.net> <3FBFE6B2.817083F9@maynor.net> <3FC00883.D1F1046A@maynor.net> <3FC020C3.6D268E94@maynor.net> <3FC0B54C.FEA90F43@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 23 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> If I said that few people speak Tarascan would you assume that I mean >> that all people need instruction in Tarascan? > >That would depend upon the context. Copout! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 10:37:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANGb16q009581 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:37:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C84AC1E60339; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:29:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C4E1E6001B for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:29:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A56817@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 11:22:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 526106 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:22:32 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANGMW318106 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:22:32 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123162226.SYAE1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:22:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC0DEC5.63B09DD2@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:22:29 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <3FC02E27.3ED28DD2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031123091039.00b2cb68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031123101757.00ba0ea0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Ohmygod!!!! How long have you been taking it? I remember back when you I don't know how long. Maybe about a year? I don't know that I would have any record to tell me how long, though I assume that my doctor would have it in his records and maybe Walmart would also. > and Betty and I were tramping around New England that we were trying to > tell you to take it. I also remember you refusing on list. I did not I have never said that I would never take Fosamax. I have said that I wasn't taking it at the time, but I have always (or at least ever since first hearing about it) thought that it was something worth exploring at some point. I can't remember now what made me decide to explore it at whatever point it was. Maybe it was that I wanted to become a dance teacher? I remember a tv ad showing a dance teacher who was taking it. > confuse HRT and Fosomax. I distinctly remember you pooh-poohing the whole > osteoporosis thing. In any case, congratulations for accepting the I have never pooh-poohed the whole osteoporosis thing. You are perhaps remembering something I said one time about refusing HRT -- about how I realized that I might keel over with a heart attack and smash all my bones on the sidewalk. Iow, I realized the risks of not taking HRT (though the heart attack thing turned out to be erroneous). > sensible. Do you take it once a week? Any problems? I think it's always once a week, isn't it? Maybe there are different kinds. Anyway, mine is once a week. It's simple. I just take a pill when I first get up on Tuesday mornings -- the day I chose because it seems as good as any day. The only rule is that you can't eat or drink anything for thirty minutes after taking it. That's not a problem since I normally come to my computer first thing in the mornings and sometimes forget to go pour some coffee for that long anyway -- as in on other days of the week. I do miss drinking orange juice immediately upon getting up, something I normally do before turning on the coffee-maker. But it's not a big deal. At first I was worried about forgetting it -- forgetting it was Tuesday. I put the little stickers on my refrigerator calendar as reminders. But I quit that after about a month. A better reminder is simply to set the package out beside the lavatory the night before since the first thing I do when I get up in the morning is wash my face. When I see the green package sitting there, I know it's Tuesday. I forgot only once -- the Tuesday after Labor Day. Because that Monday was a holiday and I had been to a party, that night didn't feel like a Monday night -- it felt like a Sunday night. It was after I had taken the first sip of orange juice the next morning that I suddenly remembered it was Tuesday. So I did the Fosamax on Wednesday that week, then returned to Tuesday the next week. I had thought it might be a bother when traveling since I don't have my morning computer routine then, but it's not. I quickly realized that the thirty minutes get eaten up by doing things like taking a shower and getting dressed. By the time I'm ready to head out to find coffee and breakfast, the thirty minutes have passed. > Did you have a > follow-up bone density test to see if it is helping? No, but I probably will someday. The only bone-density test I've ever had was in March 1993. (I remember when it was because it was somewhere very close to my 50th birthday -- like the same week.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 10:37:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANGbv6q009596 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:37:57 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 24E591E60339; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:30:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E94471E6001B for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:30:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A56820@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 11:23:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 526115 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:23:29 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANGNS318137 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:23:28 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123162323.SYGM1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:23:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC0DEFD.6AC49098@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:23:25 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <3FC02E27.3ED28DD2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031123091039.00b2cb68@pop.gwi.net> <4.2.2.20031123072232.00a9c100@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > Just for the record it's recommended that women quit smoking, too. And quit drinking diet cokes etc. etc. etc. I do not intend to turn into a health nut. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 10:38:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANGcO6q009608 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:38:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0082D1E6001B; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:31:16 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1EE21E6000C for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:31:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A56806@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 11:23:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 526122 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:23:51 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANGNo318147 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:23:50 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hANGNlUh025688 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:23:48 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:25:11 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <887058470.20031123102511@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: It's Time In-Reply-To: <3FC0CA1A.E9D9CA91@maynor.net> References: <3FC02E27.3ED28DD2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031123091039.00b2cb68@pop.gwi.net> <3FC0CA1A.E9D9CA91@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 23, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > bonniev wrote: >> Natalie has osteoporosis, confirmed by a bone scan. But she won't take >> Fosomax. Half of the 57-year-old women I know are on Fosomax. I should > What? You're getting Fosamax mixed up with HRT. It's the latter that I > kept just saying no to -- and was even happier with the decision I was > already happy with when the evidence started trickling out that it was > Not A Good Thing. My gut had already told me that. I have never said > anything about refusing to take Fosamax, though I quite likely said at > some point that I wasn't taking it since I wasn't always taking it. > I've been taking it for a good while now, though. It strikes me as a > thing to do. But a little late. In any case, I had the same impression that Bonnie did, that you were happy and satisfied to have your bones crumble. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 10:39:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANGdR6q009616 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:39:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 277A31E6001B; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:32:19 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBF4E1E6000C for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:32:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5681E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 11:24:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 526165 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:24:59 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANGOw318201 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:24:58 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hANGOXsb001827 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:24:34 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:26:22 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1732824135.20031123102622@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weather In-Reply-To: <3FC0CBA3.499C9A6C@maynor.net> References: <3FC0CBA3.499C9A6C@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 23, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I am not looking forward to tomorrow. I like today much better. We've already had our high temp for the day and it's getting colder as we speak. There's a freeze warning for the hill country--I guess I'm not wearing shorts to meeting. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 10:39:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANGdd6q009619 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:39:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B801E1E6001B; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:32:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88F721E6000C for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:32:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A56827@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 11:25:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 526169 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:25:10 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANGPA318228 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:25:10 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123162505.SYQO1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:25:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC0DF63.C0B0D462@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:25:07 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Iron Bowl References: <20031123023359.92528.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> <3FC02843.EAD16778@maynor.net> <3FC02A93.2050305@swbell.net> <3FC02F4A.AB5466DE@maynor.net> <3FC0D2C8.300@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > > fact that I not only was in Walmart but kissed a Republican while there. > > She'd fear for your immortal soul. "His lips suck forth my soul -- see where it flies!" -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 10:42:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANGg86q009728 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:42:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E7E6E1E60339; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:34:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B894C1E6001B for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:34:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5680E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 11:27:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 526187 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:27:39 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANGRd318312 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:27:39 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hANGREsb004286 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:27:15 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:29:02 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1418462126.20031123102902@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Clear, blue, water In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031123080839.00aa44d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <4.2.2.20031123080839.00aa44d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 23, 2003, Betty wrote: > I think our occupational nurse told us that there were fewer > controls/regulations in processing bottled water than then was tap water. Sure. But it still tastes better. > I agree about the taste though. I can't stand to drink water in Los > Angeles. Our water is fine and I refill my bottles that I take to > the gym with tap water. I refill mine with filtered water from my fridge--but you don't want to refill them many times. There's a problem with the plastic leaching whatsis that are cancer-causing. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 10:45:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANGjg6q009753 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:45:42 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C39071E60339; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:38:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F11A1E6001B for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:38:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A56833@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 11:31:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 526280 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:31:13 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANGVD318524 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:31:13 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hANGVAiM020860 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:31:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:32:34 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <312886038.20031123103234@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: It's Time In-Reply-To: <3FC0DEC5.63B09DD2@maynor.net> References: <3FC02E27.3ED28DD2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031123091039.00b2cb68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031123101757.00ba0ea0@pop.gwi.net> <3FC0DEC5.63B09DD2@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 23, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I have never pooh-poohed the whole osteoporosis thing. This is making me want to go search the archives. I remember this, too, your pooh-poohing of osteoporosis, and saying that you were fine being humped. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 10:46:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANGkD6q009760 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:46:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9CEF31E60350; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:39:04 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C81C1E60339 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:39:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A56835@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 11:31:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 526292 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:31:44 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANGVi318535 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:31:44 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hANGVfiM021185 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:31:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:33:02 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <554124176.20031123103302@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: invocations In-Reply-To: References: <3FC026C5.8D8B70A@maynor.net> <3FC0B5D9.BF45DBF@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 23, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > LOL! My rules greatly simplify my life. Most voluntarily underaken rules > do. Gross overstatement alert. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 11:01:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANH1t6q009911 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:01:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8D8011E60350; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:54:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E0F01E60339 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:54:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F483F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 11:47:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 526685 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:47:26 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANGlQ319392 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:47:26 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hANGl0sb022607 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:47:01 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:48:48 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1159175205.20031123104848@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Australia In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031123081407.00a49ee0@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <4.2.2.20031122194739.00a50900@uclink.berkeley.edu> <20031122043716.26148.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20031122063851.00a63c70@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031122081018.00a457a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031122194739.00a50900@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031123081407.00a49ee0@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 23, 2003, Betty wrote: > A few always fall down during storms around here. They should have left > them in Australia. But they smell good. > Speaking of Australia, we haven't heard from down under > for a while. Nope. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 11:03:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANH3A6q009927 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:03:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 123871E60350; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:56:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D63ED1E60339 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:56:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A56846@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 11:48:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 526702 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:48:41 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hANGmf319487 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:48:41 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:48:36 PST Message-ID: <20031123164836.95654.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:48:36 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: It's Time To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FC0DEFD.6AC49098@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > And quit drinking diet cokes etc. etc. etc. I do > not intend to turn > into a health nut. Good. There are far too many of them running around already. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 11:03:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANH3F6q009930 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:03:15 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F34BC1E60350; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:56:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F921E60339 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:56:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A56847@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 11:48:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 526713 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:48:46 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANGmk319500 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:48:46 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hANGmjeO025239 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:48:45 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hANGmfa2025143; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:48:42 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031123085007.00a95160@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:50:56 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Clear, blue, water In-Reply-To: <1418462126.20031123102902@WordWrite.com> References: <4.2.2.20031123080839.00aa44d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031123080839.00aa44d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:29 AM 11/23/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >I refill mine with filtered water from my fridge--but you don't want >to refill them many times. There's a problem with the plastic leaching >whatsis that are cancer-causing. > >Karen They get dirty and I toss 'em. Recycle, of course. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 11:17:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANHH96q010082 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:17:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 08B861E60353; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:10:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8BC31E60350 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:10:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A56886@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 12:02:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 527066 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:02:40 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANH2e320717 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:02:40 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123170235.BQAJ14203.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:02:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC0E82D.B59E3305@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:02:37 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dear God . . References: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> <006501c3b150$d3a1c440$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FC0070D.995A1541@maynor.net> <3FC01FFC.83D9A1A7@maynor.net> <3FC0B4E7.D31B8477@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >See it as you choose. It is clear to me that you aren't likely to > >understand my religious views. Your comments about > If you would ever state them, we could find out. You will not even state > whether you have been baptized! I think I've just entered CuckooLand. "[I] will not even state whether [I] have been baptized"?? Where is that coming from?? I don't recall having ever been asked that question. Or is your point that one should add it as information in a signature file? Or what? Now that you've brought us into CuckooLand, I'm tempted to live up to your goofy allegations and say, "I refuse to offer that information." Of course I've been baptized. I thought I had mentioned church membership on various occasions, and I'm pretty sure that in the Methodist Church that requires having been baptized (though the requirement isn't that it has to have been in a Methodist Church). Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe there is no such requirement. I'm mainly flabbergasted at your statement about what I will or will not state. Re stating religious beliefs, it would take forever to do them justice. A very, very quick summary: I believe in spirituality, as in communing with a Creator and with the Good that floats around in the universe; I think the religions of the world all offer some good ethical suggestions, though I am not sure whether I think that organized religion has done more good or more harm in the world -- I lean slightly toward the latter view; I believe in tolerance of and respect for people's personal religious beliefs as long as they are not doing harm to others -- e.g., baptism: if it makes somebody or that somebody's family/friends feel better to participate in that ritual, then it is fine, but the Spirit I believe in doesn't think superficialities of that kind are essential; I believe that good works are far more important than thoughts or beliefs. What else would you like to know? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 11:18:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANHIh6q010088 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:18:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6C54C1E60350; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:11:34 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A4CD1E60353 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:11:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A56870@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 12:04:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 527128 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:04:14 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANH4D320899 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:04:14 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123170408.BQKB14203.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:04:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC0E88A.92E811C4@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:04:10 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <3FC02E27.3ED28DD2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031123091039.00b2cb68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031123101757.00ba0ea0@pop.gwi.net> <3FC0DEC5.63B09DD2@maynor.net> <312886038.20031123103234@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > I have never pooh-poohed the whole osteoporosis thing. > > This is making me want to go search the archives. I remember this, > too, your pooh-poohing of osteoporosis, and saying that you were fine > being humped. Yes, I have said that I consider being humped acceptable. I would not call that pooh-poohing the whole osteoporosis thing. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 11:22:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANHMA6q010138 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:22:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B5A1E1E60353; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:15:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 864E31E60350 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:15:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F4875@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 12:07:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 527384 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:07:41 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANH7f321469 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:07:41 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123170736.BRCF14203.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:07:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC0E95A.66F0E4B5@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:07:38 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <20031123164836.95654.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > And quit drinking diet cokes etc. etc. etc. I do > > not intend to turn > > into a health nut. > > Good. There are far too many of them running around already. I think this is where the idea of my "pooh-poohing the whole osteoporosis thing" is coming from. The fact that I am willing to accept the consequences of lifestyle choices could perhaps be interpreted as pooh-poohing the threats. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 11:25:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANHPY6q010161 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:25:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BB41C1E60353; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:18:25 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 880241E60350 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:18:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A568A8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 12:11:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 527508 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:11:05 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANHB5321747 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:11:05 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-219.gwi.net [216.195.151.219]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hANHB3Ar068486 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:11:04 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031123121043.00b3cfe0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:11:21 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <341953774.20031123102116@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031123091039.00b2cb68@pop.gwi.net> <3FC02E27.3ED28DD2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031123091039.00b2cb68@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >That's distressing. Don't forget the benefits of jumping. Did you buy >a weighted vest? --Karen Sorry, but I cannot get into this discussion with you. Been there, done that, and got very annoyed. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 11:40:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANHeW6q010342 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:40:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 61ECC1E6035E; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:33:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 321481E60020 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:33:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F4894@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 12:26:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 527743 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:25:55 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANHPt322592 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:25:55 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hANHPreO014485 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:25:54 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hANHPqa2014458; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:25:52 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031123092718.00a44ae0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:28:07 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <312886038.20031123103234@WordWrite.com> References: <3FC0DEC5.63B09DD2@maynor.net> <3FC02E27.3ED28DD2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031123091039.00b2cb68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031123101757.00ba0ea0@pop.gwi.net> <3FC0DEC5.63B09DD2@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:32 AM 11/23/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Sunday, November 23, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > I have never pooh-poohed the whole osteoporosis thing. > >This is making me want to go search the archives. I remember this, >too, your pooh-poohing of osteoporosis, and saying that you were fine >being humped. Nah, it's okay. Natalie takes care of herself. She knows what she needs to do. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 11:56:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANHud6q010739 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:56:39 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8D5461E6035E; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:49:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 520CB1E60028 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:49:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A568DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 12:42:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 528076 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:42:10 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANHgA323827 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:42:10 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123174202.LSSL1909.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:42:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC0F16C.534D2D0D@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:42:04 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <3FC0DEC5.63B09DD2@maynor.net> <3FC02E27.3ED28DD2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031123091039.00b2cb68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031123101757.00ba0ea0@pop.gwi.net> <3FC0DEC5.63B09DD2@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031123092718.00a44ae0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > >This is making me want to go search the archives. I remember this, > >too, your pooh-poohing of osteoporosis, and saying that you were fine > >being humped. > > Nah, it's okay. Natalie takes care of herself. She knows what she needs to do. As I said earlier, I think the problem is in the use of the word pooh-poohing. I don't consider my saying that I would be fine with being humped (so to speak) as pooh-poohing osteoporosis. To say I was "pooh-poohing the whole osteoporosis thing" is to suggest I was claiming it didn't exist, it wasn't a threat, etc. etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 12:17:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANIHB6q010940 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:17:11 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3A5091E60370; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:10:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 078DC1E6001C for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:10:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A56919@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 13:02:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 528635 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:02:42 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANI2f325558 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:02:41 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 4B0BE2B903; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:02:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D76B2B56A for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:02:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:02:41 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: hell Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU o Thanks for the messages, Adam and Betty - I'm back. My mother is in the "Health" Center hopefully soon to enter Assisted "Living." I don't want to talk about it, I want to resume my normal shape and return to my normal life. I guess I could put quotes around some of that too. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 12:27:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANIRR6q011006 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:27:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2F5E81E6036E; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:20:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED8D61E60020 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:20:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A56912@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 13:12:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 528641 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:12:57 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANI2v325603 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:02:57 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hANI1vcR017594 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:01:59 -0500 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:02:54 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dear God . . In-Reply-To: <3FC0E82D.B59E3305@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> <006501c3b150$d3a1c440$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FC0070D.995A1541@maynor.net> <3FC01FFC.83D9A1A7@maynor.net> <3FC0B4E7.D31B8477@maynor.net> <3FC0E82D.B59E3305@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 23 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> If you would ever state them, we could find out. You will not even state >> whether you have been baptized! > >I think I've just entered CuckooLand. "[I] will not even state whether >[I] have been baptized"?? Where is that coming from?? I don't recall >having ever been asked that question. Or is your point that one should A few months ago I asked you that question. You replied that whether you had ever been baptized was none of my business. Thank you for changing your mind. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 12:34:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANIYI6q011045 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:34:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1CA6A1E60020; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:27:09 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D82E31E6001F for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:27:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5693D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 13:19:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 528740 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:19:48 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANI9m325937 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:09:48 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hANI8ocR021144 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:08:50 -0500 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:09:48 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Rules In-Reply-To: <554124176.20031123103302@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <3FC026C5.8D8B70A@maynor.net> <3FC0B5D9.BF45DBF@maynor.net> <554124176.20031123103302@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU There are rules, and there are rules. I have been greatly puzzled by many of Natalie's statements about the uselessness of rules, how they make life more complicated, etc. It now seems to me that Natalie must think that all rules are arbitrary. That is, of course, not true. Rules of the sort that are common in monastic life, in fact vowed life of all kinds (including, ideally, marriage) are highly non-arbitrary. They reflect a pattern of life to which one has made a strong commmitment after a period of discernment. It is not that the rule comes first, then ruled behavior later. The inclination/behavior comes first, then the rule. The vow is the strong expression of intention to live into that commitment. Or so it looks from where I stand. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 12:39:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANIdG6q011123 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:39:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C86C11E60021; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:32:06 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 975341E60020 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:32:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A56946@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 13:24:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 528937 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:24:46 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANIEk326282 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:14:46 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hANIDmcR024060 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:13:48 -0500 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:14:46 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dear God . . In-Reply-To: <3FC0E82D.B59E3305@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> <006501c3b150$d3a1c440$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FC0070D.995A1541@maynor.net> <3FC01FFC.83D9A1A7@maynor.net> <3FC0B4E7.D31B8477@maynor.net> <3FC0E82D.B59E3305@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 23 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >A very, very quick summary: I believe in spirituality, as in communing >with a Creator and with the Good that floats around in the universe; I >think the religions of the world all offer some good ethical >suggestions, though I am not sure whether I think that organized >religion has done more good or more harm in the world -- I lean slightly >toward the latter view; I believe in tolerance of and respect for >people's personal religious beliefs as long as they are not doing harm >to others -- e.g., baptism: if it makes somebody or that somebody's >family/friends feel better to participate in that ritual, then it is >fine, but the Spirit I believe in doesn't think superficialities of that >kind are essential; I believe that good works are far more important >than thoughts or beliefs. What else would you like to know? You know what your thinks? So you claim to read God's mind? I thought so. You are not a Methodist - you are a Unitarian-Universalist. Why do you not claim membership there? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 12:41:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANIfS6q011146 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:41:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EC92C1E60020; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:34:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB9E01E6001F for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:34:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A56948@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 13:26:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 529264 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:26:58 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANIQw327068 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:26:58 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123182653.IGZV1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:26:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC0FBEF.AB758C08@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:26:55 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: hell References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin wrote: > I don't want to talk about it, I want to resume my normal shape and return > to my normal life. I guess I could put quotes around some of that too. Welcome back, Annbork. We will suck you quickly back into . Have you been baptized? What is your attitude toward Fosamax? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 12:42:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANIgC6q011151 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:42:12 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D322A1E60023; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:35:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A21CE1E60021 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:35:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5693A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 13:27:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 529301 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:27:42 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANIRg327193 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:27:42 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123182736.IHFB1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:27:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC0FC1B.9AA9674F@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:27:39 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dear God . . References: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> <006501c3b150$d3a1c440$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FC0070D.995A1541@maynor.net> <3FC01FFC.83D9A1A7@maynor.net> <3FC0B4E7.D31B8477@maynor.net> <3FC0E82D.B59E3305@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > A few months ago I asked you that question. You replied that whether you > had ever been baptized was none of my business. Thank you for changing > your mind. I have no memory at all of that exchange, but I assure you that I have not changed my mind -- that it seriously is none of your business. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 12:49:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANIn56q011248 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:49:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 54F1C1E60023; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:41:56 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F1871E60020 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:41:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5695E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 13:34:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 529497 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:34:35 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANIYZ327709 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:34:35 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hANIYYeO000407 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:34:34 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hANIYWa2000376; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:34:33 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031123103527.00a3d100@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:36:47 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: hell In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:02 AM 11/23/2003 -0800, Ann Borkin wrote: >o > >Thanks for the messages, Adam and Betty - I'm back. My mother is in the >"Health" Center hopefully soon to enter Assisted "Living." > >I don't want to talk about it, I want to resume my normal shape and return >to my normal life. I guess I could put quotes around some of that too. > >Ann Welcome back, Ann! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 12:50:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANIou6q011253 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:50:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9DA9B1E60023; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:43:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68F951E6001F for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:43:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5694E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 13:36:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 529516 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:36:26 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANIaQ327778 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:36:26 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hANIaO2f020581 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:36:25 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hANIaNJC020555; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:36:24 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031123103715.00aa22b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:38:37 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Rules In-Reply-To: References: <554124176.20031123103302@WordWrite.com> <3FC026C5.8D8B70A@maynor.net> <3FC0B5D9.BF45DBF@maynor.net> <554124176.20031123103302@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Don't worry about Natalie's rules. (Or anyone else's.) Do you take fosamax? Betty At 01:09 PM 11/23/2003 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >There are rules, and there are rules. I have been greatly puzzled by many >of Natalie's statements about the uselessness of rules, how they make >life more complicated, etc. It now seems to me that Natalie must think >that all rules are arbitrary. That is, of course, not true. > >Rules of the sort that are common in monastic life, in fact vowed life of >all kinds (including, ideally, marriage) are highly non-arbitrary. >They reflect a pattern of life to which one has made a strong commmitment >after a period of discernment. It is not that the rule comes first, then >ruled behavior later. The inclination/behavior comes first, then the rule. >The vow is the strong expression of intention to live into that >commitment. > >Or so it looks from where I stand. > >Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 12:51:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANIp96q011256 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:51:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6254A1E60020; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:44:00 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32ADD1E6001F for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:44:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A56961@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 13:36:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 529520 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:36:40 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANIad327783 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:36:39 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123183634.IJSE1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:36:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC0FE34.2CB5E356@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:36:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Rules References: <3FC026C5.8D8B70A@maynor.net> <3FC0B5D9.BF45DBF@maynor.net> <554124176.20031123103302@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > There are rules, and there are rules. I have been greatly puzzled by many > of Natalie's statements about the uselessness of rules, how they make ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Cite, please. I said that you appear to be more into rules than into spirituality. You asked me to give an example. I gave an example. I did not say anything about . > life more complicated, etc. It now seems to me that Natalie must think > that all rules are arbitrary. That is, of course, not true. I'm a great believer in rules of certain kinds. I'm glad people follow the rule of driving on the side of the road specified by the country they're in, to name one of a gazillion rules I am happy exist. They are usually arbitrary in the sense that somebody has to decide on things like which side of the road is going to be the side to drive on. Iow, it is not innately to drive on the right. The British, the Japanese, and others get along just fine with the opposite rule. But people don't arbitrarily make up the rule each time they set out in a car. > Rules of the sort that are common in monastic life, in fact vowed life of > all kinds (including, ideally, marriage) are highly non-arbitrary. > They reflect a pattern of life to which one has made a strong commmitment > after a period of discernment. It is not that the rule comes first, then > ruled behavior later. The inclination/behavior comes first, then the rule. > The vow is the strong expression of intention to live into that > commitment. There's nothing wrong with that. I have at no time suggested that you were to have rules. As I said earlier, part of my personal belief system is the importance of being tolerant of other people's beliefs unless they are doing harm to others. I don't see your vows as doing anybody any harm. I'm not into vows, but that's not to say that my way should be the way for everybody. I don't remember whether I've ever vowed anything. Joining the church might have involved vowing. I really can't remember now. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 12:52:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANIqh6q011264 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:52:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E191C1E60021; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:45:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B11A91E60020 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:45:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5696B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 13:38:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 529532 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:38:13 -0500 Received: from maple.vaxer.net (root@maple.vaxer.net [66.199.186.132]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANIcD327848 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:38:13 -0500 Received: from maple.vaxer.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maple.vaxer.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hANIbhJ5030250 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:38:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (sylvar@localhost) by maple.vaxer.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id hANIbgIJ023599 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:37:43 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: maple.vaxer.net: sylvar owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:37:42 -0800 (PST) From: Ben Ostrowsky To: The usual gang of meebers Subject: WLM Message-ID: X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to . MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id hANIcD327849 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Jodi and I were at her Chi Omega formal Friday night. Seated to her right was her sorority sister Courtney, an alumna of Starkville (Miss.) High. We waited in line to get our caricatures drawn, but the artists were only paid for two hours of work, so we didn't get to the front of the line fast enough. About six couples walked away disappointed. We understood that they had to go home and wouldn't work for free, but someone should have said "Okay, we'll have time for you and you and you, and that's all." It was great fun, though. Jodi got her hair done up for the first time, and after striking out at Clinique and Estee Lauder, found a cosmetologist at Lancôme who did her makeup for free. She looked stunning -- she's cute without a little powder and a little paint, but those who didn't get a chance to tell her how great she looked Friday night were still mentioning it to her today before her meeting. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 12:53:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANIrr6q011308 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:53:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E4F601E60023; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:46:43 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B55B81E60021 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:46:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A56965@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 13:39:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 529568 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:39:23 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANIdN327913 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:39:23 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hANIdMW1002611 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:39:22 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hANIdIWq002579; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:39:18 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031123104125.00a7df00@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:41:32 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: hell In-Reply-To: <3FC0FBEF.AB758C08@maynor.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:26 PM 11/23/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Ann Borkin wrote: > > > I don't want to talk about it, I want to resume my normal shape and return > > to my normal life. I guess I could put quotes around some of that too. > >Welcome back, Annbork. We will suck you quickly back into . > >Have you been baptized? > >What is your attitude toward Fosamax? LOL From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 12:56:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANIus6q011354 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:56:54 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 98B411E60020; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:49:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6986D1E6001F for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:49:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F4952@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 13:42:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 529655 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:42:24 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANIgO328086 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:42:24 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123184218.ILGL1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:42:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC0FF8D.3A9CFFD8@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:42:21 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dear God . . References: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> <006501c3b150$d3a1c440$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FC0070D.995A1541@maynor.net> <3FC01FFC.83D9A1A7@maynor.net> <3FC0B4E7.D31B8477@maynor.net> <3FC0E82D.B59E3305@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > You know what your thinks? So you claim to read God's mind? I > thought so. Why did you think so? But yes -- I believe that exists inside us -- is part of our minds. > You are not a Methodist - you are a Unitarian-Universalist. Why do you not > claim membership there? I've said that on many occasions. I think I also mentioned that my mother read something about Unitarianism in her old age and said that it fit her beliefs perfectly. I found that interesting. I do not claim membership there because I don't know how one does so. I am still officially a member of the Methodist Church. I knew how to do that because it was something that the fourth(?)-grade Sunday School classes did as a group. I have no idea how to become a member of the Unitarian Church since there aren't any anywhere in my vicinity. Can you do it be e-mail? Although I would probably join if there were a Unitarian Church anywhere near me, I must add that I don't feel any special need to be a member of a religious body. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 12:58:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANIwp6q011369 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:58:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1CAFE1E60020; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:51:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC57E1E6001F for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:51:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A56972@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 13:44:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 529489 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:44:21 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANIYL327692 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:34:21 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hANIXMcR002988 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:33:23 -0500 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:34:19 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dear God . . In-Reply-To: <3FC0FC1B.9AA9674F@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> <006501c3b150$d3a1c440$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FC0070D.995A1541@maynor.net> <3FC01FFC.83D9A1A7@maynor.net> <3FC0B4E7.D31B8477@maynor.net> <3FC0E82D.B59E3305@maynor.net> <3FC0FC1B.9AA9674F@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 23 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I have no memory at all of that exchange, but I assure you that I have >not changed my mind -- that it seriously is none of your business. As I said ... Bethhany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 13:00:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANJ0D6q011381 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:00:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C319C1E60020; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:53:03 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92F1D1E6001F for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:53:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F4959@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 13:45:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 529711 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:45:43 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANIjg328227 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:45:42 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123184537.IMER1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:45:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC10053.F6906F7E@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:45:39 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: WLM References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > Jodi and I were at her Chi Omega formal Friday night. Seated to her right > was her sorority sister Courtney, an alumna of Starkville (Miss.) High. Neat. What is Courtney's last name? (And it is neat that Jodi and I are sorority sisters. Tell her I'm looking forward to hanging out with her years from now in the great Omega Chapter in the sky.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 13:08:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANJ8S6q011498 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:08:28 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EA0C31E60020; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:01:18 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B955B1E6001F for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:01:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A56979@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 13:53:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 529912 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:53:58 -0500 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANIrw328715 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:53:58 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1df.140d48cf (30970) for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:53:45 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1df.140d48cf.2cf25c39@aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:53:45 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Weather To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/23/2003 10:06:57 AM Central Standard Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << But didn't you have to open the door to take Bennie out? Did you make sure the man had left before opening it? >> Yes, I made sure. We went out half an hour later and stayed out only long enough for him to pee on the nearest bush. No trips to the Mother Ship this time. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 13:15:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANJFW6q011561 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:15:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0EBE71E6002A; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:08:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D12451E6001F for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:08:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A56986@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 14:00:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 529826 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:00:57 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANIov328496 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:50:57 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hANInwcR009793 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:49:59 -0500 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:50:55 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dear God . . In-Reply-To: <3FC0FF8D.3A9CFFD8@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> <006501c3b150$d3a1c440$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FC0070D.995A1541@maynor.net> <3FC01FFC.83D9A1A7@maynor.net> <3FC0B4E7.D31B8477@maynor.net> <3FC0E82D.B59E3305@maynor.net> <3FC0FF8D.3A9CFFD8@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 23 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> You know what your thinks? So you claim to read God's mind? I >> thought so. > >Why did you think so? Because I have been reading your posts for many months. >did as a group. I have no idea how to become a member of the Unitarian >Church since there aren't any anywhere in my vicinity. Can you do it be >e-mail? Although I would probably join if there were a Unitarian Church >anywhere near me, I must add that I don't feel any special need to be a >member of a religious body. I dunno. I'm not one, though I occasionally participate in one of their services (only by invitation). Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 13:17:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANJHU6q011602 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:17:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B33201E6002A; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:10:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82DD51E6001F for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:10:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5699A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 14:03:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 529897 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:03:00 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANIr0328671 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:53:00 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hANIq2cR010440 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:52:02 -0500 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:52:59 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Rules In-Reply-To: <3FC0FE34.2CB5E356@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FC026C5.8D8B70A@maynor.net> <3FC0B5D9.BF45DBF@maynor.net> <554124176.20031123103302@WordWrite.com> <3FC0FE34.2CB5E356@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 23 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> There are rules, and there are rules. I have been greatly puzzled by many >> of Natalie's statements about the uselessness of rules, how they make > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >Cite, please. See Friday-Sunday archives. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 13:19:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANJJQ6q011694 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:19:27 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4F2241E6002A; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:12:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B94F1E60029 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:12:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5699D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 14:04:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 530112 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:04:57 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANJ4u329251 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:04:56 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123190451.CTLS14203.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:04:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC104D5.8287CDDD@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:04:53 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dear God . . References: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> <006501c3b150$d3a1c440$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FC0070D.995A1541@maynor.net> <3FC01FFC.83D9A1A7@maynor.net> <3FC0B4E7.D31B8477@maynor.net> <3FC0E82D.B59E3305@maynor.net> <3FC0FF8D.3A9CFFD8@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > I dunno. I'm not one, though I occasionally participate in one of their > services (only by invitation). I just checked my bookmarks because I was pretty sure that I had bookmarked the search page for Unitarian congregations in Mississippi. I had. I remember having mulled over the thought of driving to Jackson to attend a service. That might be ok once in a while, but the idea of five hours of commuting every time I wanted to go to church would make me not likely to want to go all that often. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 13:30:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANJUt6q011800 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:30:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 40F971E6002D; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:23:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A6E01E6002B for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:23:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A569A7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 14:16:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 530373 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:16:24 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANJGO329856 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:16:24 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hANJGKiM010208 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:16:22 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:17:44 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1773541668.20031123131744@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: It's Time In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031123121043.00b3cfe0@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031123091039.00b2cb68@pop.gwi.net> <3FC02E27.3ED28DD2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031123091039.00b2cb68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031123121043.00b3cfe0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 23, 2003, bonniev wrote: >>That's distressing. Don't forget the benefits of jumping. Did you buy >>a weighted vest? --Karen > Sorry, but I cannot get into this discussion with you. Been there, done > that, and got very annoyed. Why did you get annoyed? I have no memory of this, of course. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 13:31:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANJVN6q011804 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:31:23 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4869A1E6002B; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:24:14 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 178C71E60029 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:24:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A569A8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 14:16:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 530381 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:16:54 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANJGr329867 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:16:53 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hANJGRsb021608 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:16:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:18:16 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <85679382.20031123131816@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: It's Time In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031123092718.00a44ae0@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <3FC0DEC5.63B09DD2@maynor.net> <3FC02E27.3ED28DD2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031123091039.00b2cb68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031123101757.00ba0ea0@pop.gwi.net> <3FC0DEC5.63B09DD2@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031123092718.00a44ae0@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 23, 2003, Betty wrote: > At 10:32 AM 11/23/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >>On Sunday, November 23, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> > I have never pooh-poohed the whole osteoporosis thing. >> >>This is making me want to go search the archives. I remember this, >>too, your pooh-poohing of osteoporosis, and saying that you were fine >>being humped. > Nah, it's okay. Natalie takes care of herself. She knows what she needs to do. Oh, I am confident of that. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 13:34:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANJYA6q011822 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:34:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 02CFA1E6002B; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:27:01 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3B3D1E60029 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:27:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A569CC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 14:19:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 530500 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:19:40 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANJJe330062 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:19:40 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123191935.EQIR1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:19:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC10849.5A8F6733@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:19:37 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Rules References: <3FC026C5.8D8B70A@maynor.net> <3FC0B5D9.BF45DBF@maynor.net> <554124176.20031123103302@WordWrite.com> <3FC0FE34.2CB5E356@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >> There are rules, and there are rules. I have been greatly puzzled by many > >> of Natalie's statements about the uselessness of rules, how they make > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >Cite, please. > > See Friday-Sunday archives. You're going to need to be more specific. I just searched the archives and found nothing at all about uselessness of rules. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 13:35:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANJZ06q011843 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:35:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id D38371E6002C; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:27:50 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3AC31E60029 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:27:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A569D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 14:20:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 530518 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:20:30 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANJKU330131 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:20:30 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hANJK4sb024207 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:20:06 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:21:53 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <302396422.20031123132153@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Dear God . . In-Reply-To: <3FC0FF8D.3A9CFFD8@maynor.net> References: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> <006501c3b150$d3a1c440$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FC0070D.995A1541@maynor.net> <3FC01FFC.83D9A1A7@maynor.net> <3FC0B4E7.D31B8477@maynor.net> <3FC0E82D.B59E3305@maynor.net> <3FC0FF8D.3A9CFFD8@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 23, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I have no idea how to become a member of the Unitarian > Church since there aren't any anywhere in my vicinity. I am shocked and astonished that there is no UU church near you. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 13:35:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANJZe6q011847 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:35:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 36C201E6002C; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:28:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 072021E60029 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:28:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A569D7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 14:21:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 530532 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:21:11 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANJLA330167 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:21:10 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hANJL7Uh023013 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:21:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:22:32 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1648359631.20031123132232@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Dear God . . In-Reply-To: References: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> <006501c3b150$d3a1c440$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FC0070D.995A1541@maynor.net> <3FC01FFC.83D9A1A7@maynor.net> <3FC0B4E7.D31B8477@maynor.net> <3FC0E82D.B59E3305@maynor.net> <3FC0FC1B.9AA9674F@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 23, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Sun, 23 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>I have no memory at all of that exchange, but I assure you that I have >>not changed my mind -- that it seriously is none of your business. > As I said ... Why do you think it is your business, Bethany? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 13:36:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANJat6q011857 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:36:55 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0A4021E6002D; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:29:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDBA21E6002C for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:29:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A569D2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 14:22:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 530564 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:22:25 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANJMP330240 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:22:25 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123192220.ERAN1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:22:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC108EE.7530EE00@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:22:22 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Rules References: <3FC026C5.8D8B70A@maynor.net> <3FC0B5D9.BF45DBF@maynor.net> <554124176.20031123103302@WordWrite.com> <3FC0FE34.2CB5E356@maynor.net> <3FC10849.5A8F6733@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > >> There are rules, and there are rules. I have been greatly puzzled by many > > >> of Natalie's statements about the uselessness of rules, how they make > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > >Cite, please. > > > > See Friday-Sunday archives. > > You're going to need to be more specific. I just searched the archives > and found nothing at all about uselessness of rules. I meant to add this: ARCHIVE% grep useless nov21 ARCHIVE% grep useless nov22 ARCHIVE% grep useless nov23 of Natalie's statements about the uselessness of rules, how they make >of Natalie's statements about the uselessness of rules, how they make > of Natalie's statements about the uselessness of rules, how they make did not say anything about . >> of Natalie's statements about the uselessness of rules, how they make > >> of Natalie's statements about the uselessness of rules, how they make and found nothing at all about uselessness of rules. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 13:38:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANJce6q011869 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:38:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 98D4E1E60370; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:31:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 657C11E60034 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:31:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A569C3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 14:24:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 530593 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:24:10 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANJOA330308 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:24:10 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123192405.ERMR1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:24:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC10957.8812259B@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:24:07 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dear God . . References: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> <006501c3b150$d3a1c440$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FC0070D.995A1541@maynor.net> <3FC01FFC.83D9A1A7@maynor.net> <3FC0B4E7.D31B8477@maynor.net> <3FC0E82D.B59E3305@maynor.net> <3FC0FF8D.3A9CFFD8@maynor.net> <302396422.20031123132153@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > I am shocked and astonished that there is no UU church near you. I just checked Alabama and found that there's one in Tuscaloosa. That would be the closest. It's about an hour and a half from here to Tuscaloosa. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 13:46:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANJk76q011945 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:46:08 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ED9E31E6002D; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:38:57 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD9EC1E6002C for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:38:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A569E7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 14:31:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 530779 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:31:37 -0500 Received: from outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com (outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com [64.136.20.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hANJVb330796 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:31:37 -0500 Received: (qmail 24665 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2003 19:31:33 -0000 Received: from 1cust139.tnt5.lex2.da.uu.net (HELO computer) (68.135.134.139) by smtpout02.nyc.untd.com with SMTP; 23 Nov 2003 19:31:33 -0000 Message-ID: <002601c3b1e9$3002ebe0$8b868744@computer> From: "bogris01" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031121031304.89079.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: Worrying about TWD Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:42:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne: > About how long would it take to drive, say, from > Birmingham to Starkville? (Where are about 40 miles > ESE of B'ham.) Remind me where you are in Alabama and what you do, if you will. (I've missed out on some of the biographical details here lately.) Is a Bear Bryant commemorative Coke bottle (uncapped) worth anything? On the collector's market, I mean; I know it would be priceless to a fan. I'm thinking of giving mine to my redneck brother-in-law. brad From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 13:49:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANJnX6q011967 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:49:33 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 2CB6D1E6002D; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:42:23 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECA971E6002C for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:42:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A56A09@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 14:35:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 531001 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:35:02 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANJZ2331269 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:35:02 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hANJYwUh002802 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:35:00 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:36:23 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <417608311.20031123133623@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Dear God . . In-Reply-To: <3FC10957.8812259B@maynor.net> References: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> <006501c3b150$d3a1c440$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FC0070D.995A1541@maynor.net> <3FC01FFC.83D9A1A7@maynor.net> <3FC0B4E7.D31B8477@maynor.net> <3FC0E82D.B59E3305@maynor.net> <3FC0FF8D.3A9CFFD8@maynor.net> <302396422.20031123132153@WordWrite.com> <3FC10957.8812259B@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 23, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> I am shocked and astonished that there is no UU church near you. > I just checked Alabama and found that there's one in Tuscaloosa. That > would be the closest. It's about an hour and a half from here to > Tuscaloosa. Is Starkville really a university town?! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 14:02:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANK2I6q012127 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:02:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id B8DAA1E60031; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:55:08 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84C531E60030 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:55:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F4A19@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 14:47:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 531288 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:47:48 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f42.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANJlm332025 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:47:48 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:47:42 -0800 Received: from 162.33.243.54 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:47:42 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.33.243.54] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:47:42 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Nov 2003 19:47:42.0508 (UTC) FILETIME=[A89986C0:01C3B1FA] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >So I went to see Jane Siberry Thursday night on a whim and a vague >recommendation, loved her music, and went again on Friday night in New >Haven. Tried to get ahold of Emily but no luck. Consequently, there were >400 >unread Words-L messages in my mailbox that I just deleted. (But I did a >vanity search and saw Rashmi's cutting through the chase.) Whew! Glad I came thro'. It's no fun when a vanity search brings up zilch. Thanks for the Siberry reco. I'll look for her 'round these parts. _________________________________________________________________ online games and music with a high-speed Internet connection! Prices start at less than $1 a day average. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 14:22:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANKMY6q012298 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:22:34 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5B6061E60370; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:15:24 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8E81E6024E for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:15:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A56A48@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 15:08:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 531784 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:08:04 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f38.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANK83301185 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:08:03 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:07:58 -0800 Received: from 162.33.243.54 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:07:57 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.33.243.54] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: It's Time Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:07:57 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Nov 2003 20:07:58.0183 (UTC) FILETIME=[7D32CF70:01C3B1FD] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >One of my 57-year-old friends (now 58 or 59 I think) >sat down on March 1st >at a wedding reception onto the spot on the floor >where her chair had >recently been. She broke her hip. Wow. You don't >want to do that. Two >months of therapy at her home while she couldn't go >to work. A walker, >then crutches, then a cane. She still has a bit of >a limp. Geeze, bonnie, thanks for scaring the heck out of me. My mom is this age and leads a busy and active life but people there don't seem as worried/concerned about broken hips, bones etc. Here (on Words-L) I sense a deep interest bordering on obsession with the subject. Are folk in other parts of the world (hi Espen, Kristin) as informed about fosomax, osteoporosis and aging bones? _________________________________________________________________ Is there a gadget-lover on your gift list? MSN Shopping has lined up some good bets! http://shopping.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 14:24:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANKOh6q012318 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:24:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BCB821E6024E; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:17:33 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 886CD1E60006 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:17:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A56A55@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 15:10:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 531830 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:10:13 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANKAD301304 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:10:13 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123201007.CPEQ6696.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:10:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC11422.D789B6B1@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:10:10 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD References: <20031121031304.89079.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <002601c3b1e9$3002ebe0$8b868744@computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bogris01 wrote: > > Lynne: > > About how long would it take to drive, say, from > > Birmingham to Starkville? (Where are about 40 miles > > ESE of B'ham.) > > Remind me where you are in Alabama and what you do, if you will. > (I've missed out on some of the biographical details here > lately.) Speaking of good works, you have done a good work, Lynne! You have caused Bradykins to delurk. Lynne can answer these questions herself when she next logs on, but the quick scoop is that she is in Sylacauga, where she keeps the town safe from criminals. I've forgotten what the precise title of her position is, but I think she keeps the Chief of Police in line. > Is a Bear Bryant commemorative Coke bottle (uncapped) worth > anything? On the collector's market, I mean; I know it would be > priceless to a fan. I'm thinking of giving mine to my redneck > brother-in-law. So how is Buddy? Is he a Bama fan? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 14:27:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANKRe6q012329 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:27:40 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 115241E60044; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:20:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D53021E60033 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:20:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A56A5A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 15:13:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 531876 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:13:09 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANKD9301467 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:13:09 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123201304.CQFH6696.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:13:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC114D2.86CA2D14@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:13:06 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dear God . . References: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> <006501c3b150$d3a1c440$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FC0070D.995A1541@maynor.net> <3FC01FFC.83D9A1A7@maynor.net> <3FC0B4E7.D31B8477@maynor.net> <3FC0E82D.B59E3305@maynor.net> <3FC0FF8D.3A9CFFD8@maynor.net> <302396422.20031123132153@WordWrite.com> <3FC10957.8812259B@maynor.net> <417608311.20031123133623@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Is Starkville really a university town?! Afaik. The student body makes up probably the majority of the citizenship. (I'm never totally sure how census figures work re students, but I assume they're counted if they're living in town. I also don't know the exact percent who live off-campus, but it's a pretty hefty number. Since the town's population is something around 25,000, and the student body is something around 16,000, students are clearly a big factor in the population.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 14:29:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANKT16q012351 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:29:01 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3E88F1E60044; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:21:51 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09FF81E60033 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:21:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A56A59@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 15:14:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 531919 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:14:30 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANKEU301546 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:14:30 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-219.gwi.net [216.195.151.219]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hANKESAr090205 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:14:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031123151415.00bb1708@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:14:47 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <1773541668.20031123131744@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031123121043.00b3cfe0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031123091039.00b2cb68@pop.gwi.net> <3FC02E27.3ED28DD2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031123091039.00b2cb68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031123121043.00b3cfe0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Sorry, but I cannot get into this discussion with you. Been there, done > > that, and got very annoyed. > >Why did you get annoyed? I have no memory of this, of course. >Karen I have a vivid memory of the exchange. Sorry, but I cannot get into this discussion with you again. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 14:30:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANKUH6q012372 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:30:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DE9C11E60044; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:23:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD0E81E60033 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:23:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A56A68@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 15:15:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 532000 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:15:47 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANKFl301705 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:15:47 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123201541.CQZB6696.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:15:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC11570.F03C1732@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:15:44 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: > broken hips, bones etc. Here (on Words-L) I sense a > deep interest bordering on obsession with the subject. This is again why I think I have been thought to be it. I do not share the deep interest bordering on obsession with any medical subject, including this one. I also at times am fascinated by the seeming obsessions of some Wordslers with these matters. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 14:33:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANKXg6q012398 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:33:42 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 6AE481E60033; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:26:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B1311E60006 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:26:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A56A5D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 15:19:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 532139 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:19:12 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANKJB301922 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:19:11 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123201906.CSCU6696.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:19:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC1163C.5FCE5429@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:19:08 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Census Data Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I find it interesting that the average travel time to work in Starkville is 14.4 minutes. I googled and found this site because I was wondering about the population figure. I wasn't sure that my guess of about 25,000 was correct. According to this site, it was 21,869 in 2000. http://www.city-data.com/city/Starkville-Mississippi.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 14:45:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANKjk6q012570 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:45:47 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8B3471E6003E; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:38:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 569B11E60039 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:38:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A56A8D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 15:31:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 532430 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:31:16 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANKVG302550 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:31:16 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123203110.MPLZ3345.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:31:10 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC11911.6CCE30D1@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:31:13 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Census Data References: <3FC1163C.5FCE5429@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU That page really does have some interesting stuff. But the part at the end comparing Starkville with other towns is weird. It goes through various categories saying whether the Starkville figures are above or below the "state average." I was trying to figure out how it could say that the black population of Starkville (30%) is above the state average when the black popoulation of the state is about 37%. I guess what's going on is that the state averages are maybe just the averages of the town data, leaving out county data. So only people inside towns would count? I don't really know. But it does show that statistics can be strange. I also found that Oxford is closer than Tuscaloosa (in miles). But the highway to Tuscaloosa might make it take less time to get there. I've always thought of them as about the same distance with Tuscaloosa slightly closer in time. On this page Tuscaloosa is said to be 90.1 miles and Oxford "about 80 miles." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 14:57:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANKvo6q012680 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:57:50 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C3B311E6003E; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:50:39 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E9361E60039 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:50:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F4AB5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 15:43:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 532702 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:43:12 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hANKhC303224 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:43:12 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:43:03 PST Message-ID: <20031123204303.68100.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:43:03 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <002601c3b1e9$3002ebe0$8b868744@computer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bogris01 wrote: (Where are about 40 > miles > > ESE of B'ham.) > > Remind me where you are in Alabama and what you do, > if you will. > (I've missed out on some of the biographical details > here > lately.) I'm in Sylacauga, Talladega County. Sylacauga has, I believe, only two claims to fame: Jim Nabors (gollleeee!), and its marble, which was flawless enough to be used in building the US Supreme Court Buildings. > > Is a Bear Bryant commemorative Coke bottle > (uncapped) worth > anything? On the collector's market, I mean; I know > it would be > priceless to a fan. I really have no idea what it would be worth. I don't collect Bear stuff. But my ex-husband has a gigantic Coke memo collection, and he is redneck enough to buy it, probably. I can put you in touch with him here in AL. I'm thinking of giving mine to > my redneck > brother-in-law. Don't be giving anything away, even to RBIL's. > > brad __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 15:00:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANL0U6q012730 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:00:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 860B31E6003E; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:53:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53BB11E60039 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:53:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A56AA5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 15:45:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 532831 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:46:00 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hANKk0303402 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:46:00 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:45:42 PST Message-ID: <20031123204543.54461.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:45:42 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: hell To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FC0FBEF.AB758C08@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Welcome back, Annbork. We will suck you quickly > back into . > > Have you been baptized? > > What is your attitude toward Fosamax? When you resume your normal shape, may I still address you as M. Borinki? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 15:06:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANL606q012783 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:06:00 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F1E631E6003E; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:58:49 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C10C81E60039 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:58:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A56AB1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 15:51:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 532948 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:51:29 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hANKpT303689 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:51:29 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:51:24 PST Message-ID: <20031123205124.56968.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:51:24 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: It's Time To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Rashmi Murthy wrote: > Are folk in other parts of the world (hi Espen, > Kristin) as > informed about fosomax, osteoporosis and aging > bones? Where is Kristin? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 15:08:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANL856q012813 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:08:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 41DC91E6024E; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:00:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D7FC1E60040 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:00:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A56AD1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 15:53:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 532708 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:53:34 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANKhY303231 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:43:34 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hANKgYcR027300 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:42:36 -0500 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:43:31 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dear God . . In-Reply-To: <1648359631.20031123132232@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <001201c3b138$472fb660$e1cadece@0018079268> <006501c3b150$d3a1c440$e1cadece@0018079268> <3FC0070D.995A1541@maynor.net> <3FC01FFC.83D9A1A7@maynor.net> <3FC0B4E7.D31B8477@maynor.net> <3FC0E82D.B59E3305@maynor.net> <3FC0FC1B.9AA9674F@maynor.net> <1648359631.20031123132232@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 23 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >>>I have no memory at all of that exchange, but I assure you that I have >>>not changed my mind -- that it seriously is none of your business. > >> As I said ... > >Why do you think it is your business, Bethany? Why would I think that? I don't. Never said I did. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 15:31:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANLV56q013088 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:31:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A1F141E60039; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:23:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A70E1E60038 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:23:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A56AEF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 16:16:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 533517 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:16:34 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANLGX305051 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:16:33 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hANLGWkF004642 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:16:32 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hANLGVBj004640 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:16:31 +0100 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:16:31 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Clear, blue, water Message-ID: <20031123211631.GA4634@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <4.2.2.20031123080839.00aa44d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1418462126.20031123102902@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1418462126.20031123102902@WordWrite.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = I refill mine with filtered water from my fridge--but you don't want = to refill them many times. There's a problem with the plastic leaching = whatsis that are cancer-causing. = = Karen What the? Any plastic? That wouldn't make sense, since the plastic bottles that most drinks come in here are returnable and get refilled. And I have a Rubbermaid half gallon plastic jar that I refill all the time with water in the fridge so it's cold. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 15:36:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANLaU6q013120 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:36:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E29651E60039; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:29:19 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF6A71E60038 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:29:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A56B12@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 16:21:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 533674 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:21:59 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANLLw305420 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:21:59 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hANLLvkF004659 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:21:57 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hANLLvsh004657 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:21:57 +0100 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:21:57 +0100 From: steph To: words-l Subject: [sylvar@VAXER.NET: WLM] Message-ID: <20031123212157.GB4634@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Forwarded message from Ben Ostrowsky ----- X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). 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From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 15:36:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANLaa6q013123 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:36:36 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 242BD1E60039; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:29:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E76AD1E60038 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:29:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A56B1B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 16:22:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 533678 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:22:05 -0500 Received: from outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com (outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com [64.136.20.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hANLM5305459 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:22:05 -0500 Received: (qmail 21198 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2003 21:21:59 -0000 Received: from 03-145.093.popsite.net (HELO computer) (64.24.154.145) by smtpout01.nyc.untd.com with SMTP; 23 Nov 2003 21:21:59 -0000 Message-ID: <000801c3b208$048f79a0$919a1840@computer> From: "bogris01" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031123204303.68100.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: Worrying about TWD Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:23:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I'm thinking of giving mine to > > my redneck > > brother-in-law. > > Don't be giving anything away, even to RBIL's. Even in the spirit of Christmastime....I mean UnnamedEntityTime? Thanks for the update, Lynne. I haven't read all the mail backlog, but I assume the White Dog Rescue Mission didn't occur? brad From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 15:38:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANLcH6q013137 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:38:17 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 5A2541E60040; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:31:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25D651E60039 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:31:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A56B16@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 16:23:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 533720 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:23:47 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hANLNk305548 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:23:46 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:23:40 PST Message-ID: <20031123212340.5612.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:23:40 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Clear, blue, water To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031123211631.GA4634@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- steph wrote: > What the? > > Any plastic? That wouldn't make sense, since the > plastic bottles > that most drinks come in here are returnable and get > refilled. > And I have a Rubbermaid half gallon plastic jar that > I refill all > the time with water in the fridge so it's cold. I figure the bottles say "Do Not Refill" just so they can sell more bottles. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 15:40:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANLef6q013159 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:40:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E8A9E1E60040; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:33:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B50331E60039 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:33:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A56B0B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 16:26:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 533786 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:26:10 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hANLQA305714 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:26:10 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:26:05 PST Message-ID: <20031123212605.21788.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:26:05 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <000801c3b208$048f79a0$919a1840@computer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bogris01 wrote: > Thanks for the update, Lynne. I haven't read all > the mail > backlog, but I assume the White Dog Rescue Mission > didn't occur? Did not. Perhaps the mission will be more desperately needed at a later date. And I forgot to say, I DO work for the Chief of Police - Natalie was correct. I think my title is something impressive like "Secretary to the Chief of Police". __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 15:41:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANLfc6q013167 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:41:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 0792D1E60040; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:34:28 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC1501E60039 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:34:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A56B26@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 16:27:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 533792 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:27:07 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANLR7305774 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:27:07 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 549AD2B915; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:27:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A8E62B903 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:27:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:27:06 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: hell In-Reply-To: <3FC0FBEF.AB758C08@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 23 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Have you been baptized? Timely question because I am scornful of what's about to happen: Allan's new grandson is going to be baptized this week by parents who as far as I know have not stepped inside a church for over 20 years. I shouldn't give a damn one way or the other but I think it's really stupid and tacky to use a church and preacher this way. If they want the kid baptised I think they should make up their own ceremony (unless of course the whole little nuclear family is from now on becoming Christian in word and deed and membership). ANYWAY no I wasn't baptized. My parents were Baptists and they don't baptize babies. At age 16 I was asked if I wanted to buy into it but I said no and they didn't make me! The exclamation mark is for my surprise and relief at the time. > > What is your attitude toward Fosamax? I don't have an attitude and I don't want to search the archives or the internet to form one. But let me guess: Bonniev says take it and Natalie says not for her. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 15:49:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANLnD6q013248 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:49:13 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BFF551E60037; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:42:02 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E4451E60035 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:42:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F4B2B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 16:34:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 533889 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:34:42 -0500 Received: from outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com (outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com [64.136.20.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hANLYg306186 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:34:42 -0500 Received: (qmail 21013 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2003 21:34:34 -0000 Received: from 03-145.093.popsite.net (HELO computer) (64.24.154.145) by smtpout03.nyc.untd.com with SMTP; 23 Nov 2003 21:34:34 -0000 Message-ID: <000d01c3b209$c6ced780$919a1840@computer> From: "bogris01" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031121031304.89079.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <002601c3b1e9$3002ebe0$8b868744@computer> <3FC11422.D789B6B1@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Worrying about TWD Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:35:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: > Speaking of good works, you have done a good work, Lynne! You have > caused Bradykins to delurk. > I've been reading Words-L for a while now, trying to feel myself back into the fold. Also, my continuing Lifetime Detritus Cleanup Project every day reveals some tidbit from the past; e.g., I have in my hands a yellowing newspaper clipping showing the merged route map of the Burlington Northern RR when it combined with the Santa Fe lo these many years ago. On it, Bookrat inked in his monumental route from Bay Area to Okoboji to New England to Lexington. (What year was that?) Stuff like this one dares not discard. And what did he name that homebrew -- Phatic Drivel Ale? > So how is Buddy? Is he a Bama fan? Mr. Buddy continues to be a champion shitass. He and I have been feuding for a couple of years now. I don't know if he's a fan or not; I thought I would make a gesture of some sort when Daddy and I motor down for the Xmas holidays. brad From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 15:57:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANLvu6q013338 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:57:56 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 77BA81E60040; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:50:45 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43C241E60037 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:50:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A56B30@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 16:43:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 534076 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:43:24 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANLhN306755 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:43:24 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 62F652B908; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:43:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 583842B8D5 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:43:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:43:23 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: hell In-Reply-To: <20031123204543.54461.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 23 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > When you resume your normal shape, may I still address > you as M. Borinki? No, hon, that looks like "Monsieur Borinki." Just "Your Royal Brilliance" will do fine. YRB From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 16:03:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANM3f6q013371 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:03:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C2B641E60040; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:56:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B41D1E6003C for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:56:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A56B4F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 16:49:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 534199 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:49:10 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANLnA307450 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:49:10 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123214905.NONK3345.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:49:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC12B53.437E85C5@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:49:07 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD References: <20031123212605.21788.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > backlog, but I assume the White Dog Rescue Mission > > didn't occur? > > Did not. Perhaps the mission will be more desperately > needed at a later date. It might be desperately needed late tonight when the temperature starts falling. I wonder where TWD is right now and where he'll be tonight. I would go to campus and look for him, but finding him wouldn't really help. Hmm. Where can one acquire a tranquilizer gun? Do they sell them at Wmart? Maybe I should get one and shoot him in order to get him into my car to transport him to my backyard. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 16:05:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANM546q013478 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:05:04 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 72C4D1E6003C; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:57:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 417E11E60037 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:57:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A56B44@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 16:50:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 534269 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:50:33 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANLoW307672 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:50:32 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123215027.NOZS3345.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:50:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC12BA5.B51429FF@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:50:29 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: hell References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin wrote: > > > What is > your attitude toward Fosamax? > > I don't have an attitude and I don't want to search the archives or the > internet to form one. But let me guess: Bonniev says take it and > Natalie says not for her. Nope. Natalie takes it while Bonniev lifts weights but refuses to talk to Karen about weighted vests. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 16:07:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANM736q013524 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:07:03 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 572191E6003C; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:59:52 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2736B1E60037 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:59:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A56B65@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 16:52:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 534323 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:52:32 -0500 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANLqV307973 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:52:31 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.178.22c56281 (2519) for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:52:20 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <178.22c56281.2cf28614@aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:52:20 EST Subject: Re: ER To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/22/2003 4:58:31 PM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: >--- Karen Kay wrote: >> Btw, the you-know-what is finished; I just need to >> sew it together. > > >The knitted KKK Kostume? > ROFL Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 16:10:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANMAA6q013563 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:10:10 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 631F11E60040; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:02:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32FB11E6003C for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:02:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A56B6F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 16:55:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 534403 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:55:39 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANLtd308301 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:55:39 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A56B54@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 16:55:38 -0500 Message-Id: <200311232155.hANLtd308301@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:55:38 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: ER To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:52:20 EST, Theo Groothof wrote: >In a message dated 11/22/2003 4:58:31 PM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: > >>--- Karen Kay wrote: >>> Btw, the you-know-what is finished; I just need to >>> sew it together. >> >> >>The knitted KKK Kostume? >> >ROFL Theo YaY! I am still thinking... But I did go to meeting today, which was exciting and good. I have to go now - I have a date I'm late for... clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 16:21:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANMLf6q013663 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:21:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id A20161E60042; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:14:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A051E60041 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:14:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A56C0D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 17:07:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 535675 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:07:10 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANM7A309510 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:07:10 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-219.gwi.net [216.195.151.219]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hANM78Ar009548 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:07:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031123170658.00bb1c58@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:07:27 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: hell In-Reply-To: References: <3FC0FBEF.AB758C08@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I don't have an attitude and I don't want to search the archives or the >internet to form one. But let me guess: Bonniev says take it and >Natalie says not for her. --Ann You get a B-. Turns out Natalie has already been taking it for about a year. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 16:22:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANMMI6q013677 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:22:18 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 612061E60044; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:15:07 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E0A31E60041 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:15:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F4BE8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 17:07:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 534509 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:07:41 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANLvf308473 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:57:41 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hANLuhcR020569 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:56:43 -0500 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:57:40 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: hell In-Reply-To: <3FC12BA5.B51429FF@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FC12BA5.B51429FF@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 23 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Nope. Natalie takes it while Bonniev lifts weights but refuses to talk >to Karen about weighted vests. So who uses weighted vests? I know nothing about them. Who says they are useful? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 16:23:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANMNh6q013702 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:23:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 60C411E60042; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:16:32 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FEA81E60041 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:16:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A56C1B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 17:09:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 535808 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:09:12 -0500 Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANM9B309692 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:09:11 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.7a.4b8191ce (2519) for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:09:04 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <7a.4b8191ce.2cf289ff@aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:09:03 EST Subject: Re: It's Time To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/22/2003 5:50:23 PM, BrandyKitt@AOL.COM writes: No one on this list is evil, IMO. 'Cept maybe me! > >Evelyn Duncan >brandykitt@aol.com > Nawwwww, not even YOU! :-) Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 16:45:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANMjS6q013902 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:45:29 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DFD341E60042; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:38:17 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC3AA1E60041 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:38:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F4BFB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 17:30:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 536373 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:30:57 -0500 Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANMUv311019 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:30:57 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.25.413d5b2e (4402) for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:30:45 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <25.413d5b2e.2cf28f15@aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:30:45 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Worrying about TWD To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/23/2003 3:49:29 PM Central Standard Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << I wonder where TWD is right now and where he'll be tonight. >> I just checked the webcam and didn't see him. Check petsmart for tranquilizers and let its vet know what you want to do. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 16:46:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANMkc6q013924 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:46:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 9AF581E60042; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:39:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A7B61E60041 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:39:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A56C44@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 17:32:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 536413 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:32:07 -0500 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANMW7311115 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:32:07 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.2b.4b88fac9 (4402) for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:31:58 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <2b.4b88fac9.2cf28f5e@aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:31:58 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] It's Time To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/23/2003 4:09:14 PM Central Standard Time, Dutchessg1@AOL.COM writes: << In a message dated 11/22/2003 5:50:23 PM, BrandyKitt@AOL.COM writes: No one on this list is evil, IMO. 'Cept maybe me! > >Evelyn Duncan >brandykitt@aol.com > Nawwwww, not even YOU! :-) Theo >> Well, I'm not as good as I'd like to be; I'm also not as smart as I'd like to be. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 17:02:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANN256q014018 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:02:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3713B1E60044; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:54:54 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 037C61E60041 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:54:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F4C58@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 17:47:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 536803 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:47:29 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANMlT312076 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:47:29 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hANMl3sb026447 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:47:04 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:48:53 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <774611226.20031123164853@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Clear, blue, water In-Reply-To: <20031123211631.GA4634@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <4.2.2.20031123080839.00aa44d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1418462126.20031123102902@WordWrite.com> <20031123211631.GA4634@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 23, 2003, steph wrote: > = > = I refill mine with filtered water from my fridge--but you don't want > = to refill them many times. There's a problem with the plastic leaching > = whatsis that are cancer-causing. > = > = Karen > What the? > Any plastic? The plastic bottles that water comes in. > That wouldn't make sense, since the plastic bottles > that most drinks come in here are returnable and get refilled. I've never seen that. > And I have a Rubbermaid half gallon plastic jar that I refill all > the time with water in the fridge so it's cold. I think that's a different kind of plastic. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 17:08:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANN8w6q014073 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:08:58 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id AC3881E6004E; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:01:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74AC91E60044 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:01:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F4C71@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 17:54:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 536962 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:54:27 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANMsR312486 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:54:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123225421.GWXA1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:54:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC13A9F.B544D1FB@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:54:23 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD References: <20031121031304.89079.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <002601c3b1e9$3002ebe0$8b868744@computer> <3FC11422.D789B6B1@maynor.net> <000d01c3b209$c6ced780$919a1840@computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bogris01 wrote: > I've been reading Words-L for a while now, trying to feel myself > back into the fold. You will always be part of the fold. > Mr. Buddy continues to be a champion shitass. He and I have been > feuding for a couple of years now. I don't know if he's a fan or > not; I thought I would make a gesture of some sort when Daddy and > I motor down for the Xmas holidays. You are a good man. How long are you going to be there? Remind Kay of Fest '04 in the St. Louis vicinity. We talked about it on the phone at some point. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 17:10:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANNAU6q014087 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:10:30 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id BB4C81E60052; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:03:19 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 887BF1E6004E for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:03:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A56C8E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 17:55:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 537003 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:55:59 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANMtx312557 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:55:59 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123225554.GXHK1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:55:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC13AFC.45A382A2@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:55:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: hell References: <3FC12BA5.B51429FF@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > So who uses weighted vests? I know nothing about them. Who says they are > useful? Karen, I think, though I never followed the weighted-vest thread. She mentioned them today, and Bonniemae said they'd had that discussion before. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 17:14:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANNEG6q014116 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:14:16 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 1A05F1E6016D; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:07:05 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D68E71E60052 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:07:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F4C4B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 17:59:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 537100 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:59:44 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANMxi312922 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:59:44 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123225939.GYHZ1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:59:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC13BDD.3B8EBB1@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:59:41 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD References: <25.413d5b2e.2cf28f15@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > I just checked the webcam and didn't see him. For the past week or so he hasn't seemed to spend much time on the drillfield, where the webcam is aimed. > Check petsmart for tranquilizers and let its vet know > what you want to do. I wonder where the closest Petsmart is. I feel sure there must be one in Jackson. Possibly there's one in Tupelo. I bet I could find out on the web. I really should go up to Tupelo sometime before xmas day and try to find the airport. Actually, I had been thinking a while back that I should go to Shiloh sometime this week. I've never been there and have heard it's pretty. It's not far north of Tupelo. That would've been a good thing to do today, a beautiful day -- the last beautiful day for a while, I fear. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 17:21:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANNLW6q014182 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:21:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id F157F1E6004E; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:14:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0B661E60041 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:14:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A56CC9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 18:07:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 537634 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:07:00 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANN70313633 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:07:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123230655.HAEU1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:06:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC13D91.F057DD56@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:06:57 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Petsmart Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU There appears to be one just north of Tupelo. I wasn't sure where Saltillo, MS, was until I clicked on the map feature and found it. It would be on a route to Shiloh. But that doesn't help TWD right now -- as in tonight. http://tinyurl.com/w8tu -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 17:23:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANNNf6q014204 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:23:41 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 655691E60041; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:16:30 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B8B21E6004E for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:16:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A56CDE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 18:09:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 537673 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:09:09 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANN99313808 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:09:09 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123230904.HATW1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:09:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC13E12.118AE3A8@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:09:06 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Petsmart References: <3FC13D91.F057DD56@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Those mileages are bogus. Huntsville is just under 200 miles from here, not the slightly over 150 given on that site. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 17:28:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANNS96q014339 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:28:09 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 032871E6016D; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:20:58 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4B011E60054 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:20:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A56CD7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 18:13:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 537798 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:13:37 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANNDb314177 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:13:37 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123231332.HCHO1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:13:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC13F1E.933468CE@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:13:34 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Petsmart References: <3FC13D91.F057DD56@maynor.net> <3FC13E12.118AE3A8@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Those mileages are bogus. Huntsville is just under 200 miles from here, > not the slightly over 150 given on that site. And now I notice that it says Jackson is 110 miles. That also is bogus. It's at least 125. Hmm. I bet these figures are as the crow flies. If I could hop on a crow's back, maybe I could travel those distances in those numbers of miles. The figure for Saltillo is also bogus since it's a smaller number of miles than it is from here to Tupelo. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 18:02:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAO02m6q014711 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:02:48 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 8B8491E6016E; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:55:36 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 576931E6016D for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:55:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A56D1C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 18:48:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 538530 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:48:16 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANNmF316668 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:48:15 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hANNmCiM012211 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:48:13 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:49:38 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <06177644.20031123174938@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Survivor--what the heck?! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm confused. At first I thought I taped over this past week's Survivor, but I just stick a tape, and the first thing I saw was Jon and Lil on a huge honking catamaran. Now they are using blowdarts. Is this the past week's Survivor? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 18:11:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAO0Bc6q014755 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:11:38 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ABC701E6016E; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:04:26 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73F731E6016D for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:04:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A56D35@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 18:57:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 538774 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:57:06 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hANNv6317217 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:57:06 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:57:00 PST Message-ID: <20031123235700.59094.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:57:00 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Petsmart To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FC13F1E.933468CE@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > bogus since it's a smaller number of miles than it > is from here to > Tupelo. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) What you need is a loud speaker truck. If you appeal to TWD's sense of fairness, he would jump in the trunk and save you all this worry about travel. He strikes me as a reasonable animal, under all those layers of aliases. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 18:13:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAO0Dp6q014768 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:13:51 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 3655F1E6016E; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:06:40 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 058981E6016D for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:06:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A56D4B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 18:59:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 538820 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:59:19 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANNxJ317314 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:59:19 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hANNwssb001361 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:58:54 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:00:44 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <91657470.20031123180044@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: It's Time In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 23, 2003, Rashmi Murthy wrote: > Are folk in other parts of the world (hi Espen, Kristin) as > informed about fosomax, osteoporosis and aging bones? I think they walk a lot more in other places in the world. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 18:14:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAO0EW6q014777 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:14:32 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id DC16F1E6016E; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:07:20 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAF8A1E6016D for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:07:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F4D2D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 18:59:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 538830 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:00:00 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAO000317332 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:00:00 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hANNxZsb001898 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:59:35 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:01:25 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1758702020.20031123180125@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: It's Time In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031123151415.00bb1708@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031123121043.00b3cfe0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031123091039.00b2cb68@pop.gwi.net> <3FC02E27.3ED28DD2@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031123091039.00b2cb68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031123121043.00b3cfe0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031123151415.00bb1708@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 23, 2003, bonniev wrote: >> > Sorry, but I cannot get into this discussion with you. Been there, done >> > that, and got very annoyed. >> >>Why did you get annoyed? I have no memory of this, of course. >>Karen > I have a vivid memory of the exchange. Sorry, but I cannot get into this > discussion with you again. Well, good for you for not getting sucked in. I still have no idea what you're talking about, but that doesn't matter, of course. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 18:17:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAO0HO6q014807 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:17:24 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 4AB401E6024E; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:10:13 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19A2A1E6016E for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:10:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A56D59@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 19:02:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 538899 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:02:52 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAO02q317585 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:02:52 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAO02nUh002692 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:02:50 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:04:15 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <518995122.20031123180415@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor--what the heck?! In-Reply-To: <06177644.20031123174938@WordWrite.com> References: <06177644.20031123174938@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 23, 2003, Karen Kay wrote: > Is this the past week's Survivor? Yes. I don't know why only part of it taped, though. Weird. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 18:23:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAO0N56q014882 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:23:05 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E16EB1E6024E; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:15:53 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC3F71E6016D for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:15:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A56D42@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 19:08:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 538944 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:08:33 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAO08X317877 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:08:33 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAO08UUh007326 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:08:31 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:09:53 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <666910192.20031123180953@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Survivor stuff In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031121123832.00b89720@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031121101358.00b99e48@pop.gwi.net> <6108f648ab.648ab6108f@optonline.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031121123832.00b89720@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 21, 2003, bonniev wrote: >>The Early Show website reports that he was not available "for undisclosed >>reasons", wink wink nudge nudge. >>Ken Miller >>Machiavelli School of Social Science > Thanks. I tried to find that out and couldn't. I'm glad I slept in. Hm. Another one of the castoffs was only available by phone. Osten, maybe. Do you think he's there, too? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 18:23:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAO0Nh6q014886 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:23:43 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id E3D311E6035A; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:16:31 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 146F41E6004A for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:16:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A56D55@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 19:09:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 538950 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:09:10 -0500 Received: from flex.com (flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAO099317901 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:09:09 -0500 Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAO08p6W028438 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:09:06 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from mem@flex.com) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:16:53 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: hell Reply-To: mem@flex.com Message-ID: <3FC0A535.11404.EE49EF@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: References: <3FC12BA5.B51429FF@maynor.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-Flex-Prefilter-Spam-Score: 0 () X-Flex-Loose-Spamcheck: NO X-Flex-Scan: Flexnet Mimedefang/Clamd Virii Checker - PASSED - No Virus Found Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 23 Nov 2003 at 16:57, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > So who uses weighted vests? I know nothing about them. Who says they > are useful? You don't need one. You're already weighted down by more than enough "spiritual" baggage. mem From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 18:24:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAO0Ox6q014894 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:24:59 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 85E851E6035A; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:17:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 552BC1E6024E for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:17:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A56D5F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 19:10:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 538977 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:10:27 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAO0AQ318002 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:10:26 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031124001021.POUS3345.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:10:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC14C6F.797B1DFD@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:10:23 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor--what the heck?! References: <06177644.20031123174938@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > stick a tape, and the first thing I saw was Jon and Lil on a huge > honking catamaran. Now they are using blowdarts. > > Is this the past week's Survivor? Yes. They were on a huge honking catamaran. Lil was feeling guilty because she hadn't given the gift of the trip to Rupert, but she said that she had grown up poor and had dreamed of an occasion like this. Jon, of course, was happy and felt no guilt. I don't remember specifics like blowdarts. But they managed to catch zero fish. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 01:56:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN7uqXc000986 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 01:56:53 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id EFBAA1E6035A; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:24:47 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA0BC1E6004A for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:24:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F4D53@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 19:17:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 539161 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:17:27 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAO0HR318661 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:17:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031124001721.PRZJ3345.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:17:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC14E13.6C8E0BE4@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:17:23 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Petsmart References: <20031123235700.59094.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > He strikes > me as a reasonable animal, under all those layers of > aliases. Yes. I have talked to him several times lately and have sensed that he is listening and thinking. My fantasy now is to walk up to him one day soon and say, "Ok, come with me. We're going home, where you will live happily ever after." And he will follow me to the car, hop in, and come live with Spencer. Actually, I would take him first to the vet to be checked out totally, both for his sake and for Spencer's. Then I would bring him home. That could be problematic re my xmas trip, of course, since it would require Spencer and Casper to be getting along well enough to share a at Furrbabies. There are no more rooms in the inn. Dogs certainly complicate life. I've been thinking about various things I would do during this holiday week if I had made reservations for Spencer at Furrbabies. But I didn't. I can leave him home alone for one night. I've done it on several occasions. So I might yet decide to make a quick trip. But I would not be willing to leave him for longer than that, even though he would be physically fine if I did -- as in would have plenty of food and water. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 02:09:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN89eXc001308 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 02:09:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F4D9B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 19:49:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 539945 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:49:16 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAO0nF321014 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:49:15 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031124004910.GIYI14203.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:49:10 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC15588.263D70A6@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:49:12 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Petsmart References: <20031123235700.59094.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031123192114.00ba0ea0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Have a friend come in once a day to check on him. My friends are gone at the same times I'm likely to be gone. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 02:13:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN8DQXc001398 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 02:13:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id C45A91E6037A; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:34:44 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C59E1E60372 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:34:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A56D79@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 19:27:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 539445 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:27:24 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAO0RO319504 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:27:24 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAO0Qvsb025838 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:26:59 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:28:48 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <2210001537.20031123182848@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Petsmart In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031123192114.00ba0ea0@pop.gwi.net> References: <20031123235700.59094.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031123192114.00ba0ea0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 23, 2003, bonniev wrote: > The TV was left on for them, tuned to CNN, so > that they can "hear a human voice and keep up with the news." Yeah, right. Burl ignores the TV--I'm not quite convinced she can see or hear it. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 02:13:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN8DQXc001406 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 02:13:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 54B1C1E6037C; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:35:21 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20A441E60372 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:35:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A56D95@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 19:28:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 539458 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:28:00 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAO0S0319558 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:28:00 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAO0RuUh022402 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:27:58 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:29:22 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <52003993.20031123182922@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: hell In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031123162259.03a5bdb0@mail.istori.com> References: <3FC12BA5.B51429FF@maynor.net> <3FC12BA5.B51429FF@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031123162259.03a5bdb0@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 23, 2003, Peter Kaminski wrote: > See cites at , a blog > post of mine from 12/24/2001 which followed the previous discussion here on > the matter. Thanks. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 02:13:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN8DQXc001402 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 02:13:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 492231E60377; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:29:59 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15C1F1E60372 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:29:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A56D6A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 19:22:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 539321 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:22:38 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAO0Mc319194 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:22:38 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-219.gwi.net [216.195.151.219]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAO0MbAr029709 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:22:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031123192114.00ba0ea0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:22:56 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Petsmart In-Reply-To: <3FC14E13.6C8E0BE4@maynor.net> References: <20031123235700.59094.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Dogs certainly complicate life. I've been thinking about various things >I would do during this holiday week if I had made reservations for >Spencer at Furrbabies. But I didn't. I can leave him home alone for >one night. I've done it on several occasions. So I might yet decide to >make a quick trip. But I would not be willing to leave him for longer >than that, even though he would be physically fine if I did -- as in >would have plenty of food and water. -- Natalie Have a friend come in once a day to check on him. I'm doing that this weekend for two cats who have not been left alone overnight until now. They are doing fine. The TV was left on for them, tuned to CNN, so that they can "hear a human voice and keep up with the news." Yeah, right. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 02:13:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN8DQXc001420 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 02:13:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id 03E051E60378; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:31:46 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB4AF1E60372 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:31:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A56D8C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 19:24:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 539376 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:24:25 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAO0OP319301 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:24:25 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003112400241801100no6gee>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 00:24:19 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031123162259.03a5bdb0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:27:21 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: hell In-Reply-To: References: <3FC12BA5.B51429FF@maynor.net> <3FC12BA5.B51429FF@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas writes, >So who uses weighted vests? I know nothing about them. Who says they are >useful? Weighted vests have been shown to be useful in a long-term exercise program that "was as good or better than either estrogen or Fosamax for preventing bone loss" in post-menopausal women. See cites at , a blog post of mine from 12/24/2001 which followed the previous discussion here on the matter. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 02:13:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from teraserver.gtoal.com (teraserver.gtoal.com [192.168.254.250]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN8DQXc001408 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 02:13:26 -0600 Received: by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) id ABBB71E60376; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:27:10 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: words-l@gtoal.com Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by teraserver.gtoal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33D811E601F7 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:27:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A56D63@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 19:19:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 539244 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:19:49 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAO0Jm318865 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:19:48 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-219.gwi.net [216.195.151.219]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAO0JkGn039368 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:19:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031123191709.00b3cfe0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:20:06 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Survivor stuff In-Reply-To: <666910192.20031123180953@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031121123832.00b89720@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031121101358.00b99e48@pop.gwi.net> <6108f648ab.648ab6108f@optonline.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031121123832.00b89720@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Hm. Another one of the castoffs was only available by phone. Osten, >maybe. Do you think he's there, too? >Karen Don't know. The article I read said it is not widely known who the 18 people who were chosen for Survivor All-Star are. It sure would seem odd though for Osten to be on it. He didn't even want to be on the one he was on. Maybe he was embarrassed by his behavior and didn't want to be on the Early Show. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 02:34:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN8YZXc001851 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 02:34:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F4DF1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 20:14:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 540724 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:14:15 -0500 Received: from maple.vaxer.net (root@maple.vaxer.net [66.199.186.132]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAO1EF322800 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:14:15 -0500 Received: from maple.vaxer.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maple.vaxer.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAO1DaJ5000912 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:14:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (sylvar@localhost) by maple.vaxer.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id hAO1DZmD028455 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:13:36 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: maple.vaxer.net: sylvar owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:13:35 -0800 (PST) From: Ben Ostrowsky To: The usual gang of meebers Subject: Re: WLM Message-ID: X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to . MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Neat. What is Courtney's last name? (And it is neat that Jodi and I > are sorority sisters. Tell her I'm looking forward to hanging out with > her years from now in the great Omega Chapter in the sky.) Whoah! Cool! She's always wanted to meet sisters beyond their thirties, since she mainly knows undergrad Chi Os. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 02:35:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN8ZpXc001865 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 02:35:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A56D7E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 19:29:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 539498 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:29:35 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAO0TZ319642 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:29:35 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAO0TUUh023844 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:29:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:30:56 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1454844505.20031123183056@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Oooh, freaky! In-Reply-To: References: <4.2.2.20031118192627.00a43ab0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <410-22003113193219273@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 20, 2003, Bookrat wrote: > No, work sucks as much as it ever has. But you still have it! > But in the last couple of months my > work ethic has taken a nosedive, and as much as possible I've stopped > caring about anything work-related, which has overall had a beneficial > effect on my general mood. (If you are familiar with the Dilbert mythos, I > am close to achieving Wallydom.) YaY! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 02:35:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN8ZpXc001866 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 02:35:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A56DBE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 19:48:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 539929 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:48:16 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAO0mG320970 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:48:16 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031124004811.GIOA14203.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:48:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC1554D.CF711E82@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:48:13 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor stuff References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031121123832.00b89720@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031121101358.00b99e48@pop.gwi.net> <6108f648ab.648ab6108f@optonline.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031121123832.00b89720@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031123191709.00b3cfe0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > It sure would seem odd > though for Osten to be on it. He didn't even want to be on the one he was > on. Maybe he was embarrassed by his behavior and didn't want to be on the > Early Show. I agree that Osten would seem an odd choice. But it might be fun if he again led to nakedness (though the nakedness wasn't shown -- I do remember laughing at the comment of one of the other tribe members -- as in the opposite tribe -- can't remember her name -- who said something about looking back and seeing dongs flying and being amazed). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 02:35:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN8ZpXc001868 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 02:35:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A56DE6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 19:58:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 540308 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:58:38 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAO0wc321766 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:58:38 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAO0wbeO012919 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:58:37 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAO0wZa2012892; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:58:36 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031123170026.00aada50@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:00:47 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: hell In-Reply-To: <52003993.20031123182922@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031123162259.03a5bdb0@mail.istori.com> <3FC12BA5.B51429FF@maynor.net> <3FC12BA5.B51429FF@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031123162259.03a5bdb0@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:29 PM 11/23/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Sunday, November 23, 2003, Peter Kaminski wrote: > > See cites at , a blog > > post of mine from 12/24/2001 which followed the previous discussion here on > > the matter. > >Thanks. Very interesting indeed. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 02:35:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN8ZpXc001867 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 02:35:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A56DC8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 19:51:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 540014 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:51:37 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAO0pb321152 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:51:37 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031124005131.GJVO14203.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:51:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC15616.1584DC44@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:51:34 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Petsmart References: <20031123235700.59094.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031123192114.00ba0ea0@pop.gwi.net> <3FC15588.263D70A6@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > My friends are gone at the same times I'm likely to be gone. But I have seen ads for critter-sitters, people who will come to houses. That's something I might explore at some time, though I would hate to have to resort to strangers all of a sudden. It's the all-of-a-sudden part that's problematic. I can take him to Furrbabies if it's not a spontaneous trip -- which means in the case of major holidays that I have to plan several months in advance. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 02:37:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN8bOXc001891 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 02:37:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A56E0B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 20:17:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 540751 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:17:05 -0500 Received: from maple.vaxer.net (root@maple.vaxer.net [66.199.186.132]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAO1H4323002 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:17:05 -0500 Received: from maple.vaxer.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maple.vaxer.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAO1FiJ5021011 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:16:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (sylvar@localhost) by maple.vaxer.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id hAO1Fieg009876 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:15:44 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: maple.vaxer.net: sylvar owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:15:44 -0800 (PST) From: Ben Ostrowsky To: The usual gang of meebers Subject: Re: WLM Message-ID: X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to . MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The only Courtney listed in her active sister phone list is Phillips. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 02:38:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN8clXc001903 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 02:38:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A56E19@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 20:18:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 540802 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:18:27 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law9-oe28.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAO1IR323101 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:18:27 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:18:22 -0800 Received: from 199.174.1.166 by law9-oe28.law9.hotmail.com with DAV; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 01:18:21 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [199.174.1.166] X-Originating-Email: [amyb_short@hotmail.com] From: "Amy Burns Short" To: Subject: Re: hell Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:18:56 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Nov 2003 01:18:22.0065 (UTC) FILETIME=[D9E5AE10:01C3B228] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Very interesting indeed. >Betty Yes. The portion of Bobby McFerrin's soundtrack at the closing of the Pixar short subject "Knick Knack" shown pre-"Finding Nemo" at theaters and included on the double-DVD set of the same feature is curiously in order at this juncture. AS From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 02:40:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN8eAXc001916 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 02:40:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A56E12@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 20:19:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 540818 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:19:50 -0500 Received: from maple.vaxer.net (root@maple.vaxer.net [66.199.186.132]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAO1Jo323176 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:19:50 -0500 Received: from maple.vaxer.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maple.vaxer.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAO1IoJ5029611 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:19:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (sylvar@localhost) by maple.vaxer.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id hAO1IoB1005554 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:18:50 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: maple.vaxer.net: sylvar owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:18:50 -0800 (PST) From: Ben Ostrowsky To: The usual gang of meebers Subject: Re: [sylvar@VAXER.NET: WLM] Message-ID: X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to . MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Jodi may be beautiful, but that is one butt ugly header. Yeah, the Habeas header lines tell spam detectors that I'm making a specific claim that I'm not sending spam, a claim that will be enforced by copyright law if I'm lying. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 03:32:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN9WRXc002504 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 03:32:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A56E4C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 20:47:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 541401 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:47:44 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAO1lh325316 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:47:43 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAO1leUh000054 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:47:41 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:49:07 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <18010519461.20031123194907@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Strong reaction to spam MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.thescotsman.co.uk/international.cfm?id=1295402003 I think the source of the article is amusing, too. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 03:32:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN9WRXc002503 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 03:32:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A56E2B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 20:27:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 540973 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:27:22 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAO1RL323826 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:27:21 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-184-130.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.184.130]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAO1RJk0014111 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:27:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FC15E08.4070507@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:25:28 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: hell References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Amy Burns Short wrote: >>Very interesting indeed. >> > >>Betty >> > > Yes. The portion of Bobby McFerrin's soundtrack at the closing of the Pixar > short subject "Knick Knack" shown pre-"Finding Nemo" at theaters and > included on the double-DVD set of the same feature is curiously in order at > this juncture. Wasn't that one of the original Pixar shorts (along with the reading lamp, which appears in all their films)? I seem to remember seeing it at one of the Animation Fests. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 03:35:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN9ZiXc002532 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 03:35:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F4E70@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 21:15:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 541782 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:15:24 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAO25O326762 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:05:24 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAO24OcR002419 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:04:26 -0500 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:05:22 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: hell In-Reply-To: <3FC0A535.11404.EE49EF@localhost> Message-ID: References: <3FC12BA5.B51429FF@maynor.net> <3FC0A535.11404.EE49EF@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 23 Nov 2003, Michael E. Macmillan wrote: >You don't need one. You're already weighted down by more than enough >"spiritual" baggage. Ah, so someone is counting my suitases. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 03:36:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN9aNXc002539 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 03:36:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A56E6B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 21:16:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 541794 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:16:04 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAO264326813 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:06:04 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAO256cR002554 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:05:06 -0500 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:06:03 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: hell In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031123162259.03a5bdb0@mail.istori.com> Message-ID: References: <3FC12BA5.B51429FF@maynor.net> <3FC12BA5.B51429FF@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031123162259.03a5bdb0@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 23 Nov 2003, Peter Kaminski wrote: >Weighted vests have been shown to be useful in a long-term exercise program >that "was as good or better than either estrogen or Fosamax for preventing >bone loss" in post-menopausal women. > >See cites at , a blog >post of mine from 12/24/2001 which followed the previous discussion here on >the matter. Thanks, Pete - I will check this out. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 03:44:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN9iCXc002606 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 03:44:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A56E89@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 21:23:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 542214 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:23:52 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAO2Np328033 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:23:51 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:23:37 PST Message-ID: <20031124022337.45659.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:23:37 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Petsmart To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FC14E13.6C8E0BE4@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: My fantasy now is to > walk up to him one day > soon and say, "Ok, come with me. We're going home, > where you will live > happily ever after." And he will follow me to the > car, hop in, and come > live with Spencer. Yes!! > > That could be problematic re my xmas trip, of > course, since it would > require Spencer and Casper to be getting along well > enough to share a > at Furrbabies. There are no more rooms in > the inn. > > Dogs certainly complicate life. I've been thinking > about various things > I would do during this holiday week if I had made > reservations for > Spencer at Furrbabies. But I didn't. I can leave > him home alone for > one night. I've done it on several occasions. So I > might yet decide to > make a quick trip. But I would not be willing to > leave him for longer > than that, even though he would be physically fine > if I did -- as in > would have plenty of food and water. I was wondering if you had any plans for the holiday. I didn't think you'd mentioned anything. But, of course, you and Spencer must watch the Egg Bowl, even if it's painful. Academic obligation. I've been baking all afternoon, so we may not have a feast, but we WILL have dessert. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 03:47:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN9lEXc002650 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 03:47:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A56EAA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 21:26:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 542278 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:26:54 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAO2Qs328202 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:26:54 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:26:49 PST Message-ID: <20031124022649.79209.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:26:49 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Survivor stuff To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031123191709.00b3cfe0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: > Don't know. The article I read said it is not > widely known who the 18 > people who were chosen for Survivor All-Star are. > It sure would seem odd > though for Osten to be on it. He didn't even want > to be on the one he was > on. Maybe he was embarrassed by his behavior and > didn't want to be on the > Early Show. Would he really be welcome on the All-Star Show? Didn't he kind of vote himself "off"? In view of that, he hardly qualifies as a survivor(?). __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 03:49:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN9nRXc002667 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 03:49:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A56EAF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 21:29:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 542327 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:29:07 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAO2T7328370 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:29:07 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:29:00 PST Message-ID: <20031124022900.47263.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:29:00 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Petsmart To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FC15588.263D70A6@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > bonniev wrote: > > > Have a friend come in once a day to check on him. > > My friends are gone at the same times I'm likely to > be gone. What about your mysterious cat man? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 03:54:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAN9sdXc002736 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 03:54:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A56EAA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 21:34:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 542521 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:34:19 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAO2YI328716 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:34:18 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:34:13 PST Message-ID: <20031124023413.48977.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:34:13 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: hell To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > On Sun, 23 Nov 2003, Michael E. Macmillan wrote: > > >You don't need one. You're already weighted down by > more than enough > >"spiritual" baggage. > > Ah, so someone is counting my suitases. This is an interesting case of "which letter is missing?" __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 04:32:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANAWIXc003095 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 04:32:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F4F24@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 22:11:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 543990 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:11:58 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAO3Bw332501 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:11:58 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031124031153.STUZ3345.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:11:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC176FB.EAF90AE@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:11:55 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: WLM References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > Whoah! Cool! She's always wanted to meet sisters beyond their thirties, > since she mainly knows undergrad Chi Os. I'm surprised that there aren't bunches of aged owls hanging around. ChiO alums are famous for staying involved, though I of course am quite mutant in that respect. I'm sure I've told before the stories of things like putting my pin on Bernard's doggy shirt to horrify a serious ChiO alum friend. (Her granddaughter used that same pin -- the one that had been on Bernard's doggy attire -- for initiation, though. I can't remember why now that she needed a borrowed pin for initiation -- something about her pin not having arrived on time. And her grandmother's pin got shot off and lost forever in a required archery class at GW University in the '40s. And her mother had been a Tri-Delt.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 04:39:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANAd0Xc003173 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 04:39:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A56F77@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 22:18:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 544132 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:18:39 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAO3Id300556 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:18:39 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031124031834.SXEG3345.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:18:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC1788C.15210374@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:18:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: WLM References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > The only Courtney listed in her active sister phone list is Phillips. Hmm. I can't think of who that might be. Some very good friends of mine are named Phillips, but I of course know where their children are. Their son is a graduate of North Carolina School of the Artss (or some such name) and has a video-making company in Starkville; his younger sister is a graduate of Julliard and is a violinist in Boston; the youngest child is a graduate of Vanderbilt and is now a grad student at the Boston Conservatory of Music. So those aren't the right Phillipses. Tell Jodi to ask Courtney if she knows those Phillipses. She probably doesn't since they would all be too old for her generation. There was a Sam Phillips years ago who owned some radio stations, but that's way ancient history. Possibly her grandfather, though. And there's a financial advisor named Lynn Phillips, who used to be married to a philosopher named Jay Keehly, who is now married to somebody else, but I don't think there were Phillips offspring. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 04:47:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANAluXc003253 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 04:47:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A56F72@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 22:27:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 544364 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:27:36 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAO3Ra301216 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:27:36 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031124032731.TBBH3345.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:27:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC17AA5.CCA9C065@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:27:33 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Petsmart References: <20031124022337.45659.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > happily ever after." And he will follow me to the > > car, hop in, and come > > live with Spencer. > > Yes!! I do wonder about him right now. About twenty minutes ago the bottom fell mightily out -- major, major downpour. It's tapered off slightly but is still raining pretty hard. And the temperature tonight is supposedly going to plummet. > I was wondering if you had any plans for the holiday. > I didn't think you'd mentioned anything. But, of > course, you and Spencer must watch the Egg Bowl, even > if it's painful. Academic obligation. It's a shame that this year, a year when I can watch it without conflicts, is a year I don't really care about watching it. I will turn it on, of course, and will possibly watch it for a while out of fascination with the horror of our fb team. Don't let me forget that Survivor is Wednesday!!! > I've been baking all afternoon, so we may not have a > feast, but we WILL have dessert. But Tgiving isn't quite upon us yet! That's something that feels so very weird about this year, our first year ever to have the whole week off. Friday afternoon gave me those old creepy feelings that the Wednesday afternoon before Tgiving used to give me. Yet it's not Tgiving yet. MSU offices will be open Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday. The added fall break is just for classes. And it's a great idea. Having classes on the day before Tgiving was bad, as I think I've talked about before. Still, though, I got that creepy feeling on Friday. I hate November. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 04:49:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANAn8Xc003260 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 04:49:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A56F8B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 22:28:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 544429 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:28:47 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAO3Sl301337 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:28:47 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.24]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031124032842.TBNL3345.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:28:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC17AEC.51C72691@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:28:44 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Petsmart References: <20031124022900.47263.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > My friends are gone at the same times I'm likely to > > be gone. > > What about your mysterious cat man? I think Spencer would find him quite strange and would probably scare him by barking at him. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 05:19:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANBJeXc003551 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 05:19:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A57016@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 22:59:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 545787 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:59:20 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAO3xK304173 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:59:20 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F4FEC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 23 Nov 2003 22:59:19 -0500 Message-Id: <200311240359.hAO3xK304173@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:59:19 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Strong reaction to spam To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:49:07 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >http://www.thescotsman.co.uk/international.cfm?id=1295402003 > >I think the source of the article is amusing, too. > >Karen He has all my sympathies, particularly since the vaunted anti-spam program here was inadvertently loaded with a short-term license that expired this afternoon, resulting in an immediate return of fellatial imagery to my inbox. Ewww! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 08:59:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANExeXc005504 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:59:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F54A2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 2:39:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 557438 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 02:39:09 -0500 Received: from msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk (IDENT:mirapoint@msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk [212.67.96.148]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAO7d8326690 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 02:39:08 -0500 Received: from onetel.net.uk (213-78-74-125.friaco.onetel.net.uk [213.78.74.125]) by msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.3.6-GR) with ESMTP id AOF68545; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:39:05 GMT Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:37:51 +0000 Subject: Re: Protest Organizers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Roy Jaques To: English Language Discussion Group Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <004c01c3b150$46122480$e1cadece@0018079268> Message-Id: <1BAABA12-1E51-11D8-B8D7-00039383D034@onetel.net.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, Nov 22, 2003, at 23:28 Europe/London, Doris Markland wrote: > along with others. > > I have no figures handy, but I think the > actual numbers fell far below the "organizers" estimate. There was no point in protesting. The 5000 extra police on duty blocking access to anywhere Bush went saw to that. that is also why there was no official procession and he did not meet any of the London public. In fact he probably thinks everybody in London wears bright yellow jackets with POLICE written on the back. > > I think the mayor of London is a stinker, > and very rude. > We elected Ken. You elected the monkey known as Bush. Enough said ? Londoners have to pay for the police overtime, can we send the bill to the White House or the your Secret Service ? > - D. M. > Roy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 10:38:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANGc2Xc006181 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:38:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A576AF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 4:17:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 558551 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 04:17:40 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAO9Hd332126 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 04:17:39 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:19:46 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XLQ2NC8Z; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:19:37 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031124100245.0275c630@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:10:09 +0100 Subject: Digital camera - or IMFTATL In-Reply-To: References: <6108f648ab.648ab6108f@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I am looking for a digital camera for serious use - ideally one with the same possibilities as an OK reflex camera. This is not for me but for Ingjerd's use in field work, so how and how many images can be stored while she is stuck on some dreeadful island with palms and beaches in the South Pacific is important as is whether the camera seems likely to survive in not always ideal climatic conditions (hot and humid). I would be grateful for any suggestions - I can check with importers here for available models. (The price should be up to $ 1000, but I am not sure how the camera prices are comparable between Norway and the US). Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 11:46:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANHk8Xc006718 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:46:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A57727@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 5:25:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 559735 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 05:25:45 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAOAPj303901 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 05:25:45 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003112410253901300illbbe>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:25:39 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031124014434.03de18c0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 02:28:42 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Digital camera - or IMFTATL In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.0.20031124100245.0275c630@localhost> References: <6108f648ab.648ab6108f@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen Ore writes, >I am looking for a digital camera for serious use - ideally one with the >same possibilities as an OK reflex camera. Here's a couple of the good review sites: http://www.steves-digicams.com/ http://www.dpreview.com/ Look for 4+ megapixels and 3+ optical (not digital) zoom. 10x optical zoom is really nice (but don't trade off quality on the lens for it). Good brands are Canon, Nikon, Minolta. For storage look for CompactFlash Type II / Microdrive compatible, although you can buy pretty big solid state CF cards now for reasonably cheap, so you might not end up with a Microdrive. Read this: http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=005QMh Note that you can dump images off the CF card onto a computer, too. I've had a Canon G2 and a Microdrive for a long time now, and absolutely love them. The G2 form factor just a little big and heavy compared to a more consumer-friendly form factor (like its S- siblings), but the tradeoff includes a bigger lens (read: works at faster shutter or lower light) which is really important to me. Later models are as loved by their owners. Think about batteries, too. The G2 battery lasts forever on a charge, which is really nice. OTOH, it's a proprietary rechargeable, so you'll have to plug it in after a while (on the order of 400+ shots for me). Depending on where you're travelling, you might want one that can take standard batteries (e.g., AA / UM3) in a pinch -- but then, figure the cost of disposable batteries. Won't work in your budget, but for technolust, check out the before and after links from . Sample pics at , although they're scaled down for the web. Out of the camera, the pictures are 2272x1704. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 12:51:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANIpXXc007131 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:51:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A577E0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 6:31:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 561250 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 06:31:09 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAOBV9308029 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 06:31:09 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 12:33:15 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XLQ2ND7V; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 12:33:04 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031124123013.0272e328@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 12:30:53 +0100 Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <3FBED1B3.3A78E8E3@maynor.net> References: <3FBEAD91.52379A3E@maynor.net> <3FBED1B3.3A78E8E3@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 21:02 21.11.2003 -0600 skrev Natalie Maynor: >I want to invoke a general spirit, not anything related to a particular >religion. A spirit of Christmases of the past? Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 13:12:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANJBxXc007250 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:11:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A577DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 6:51:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 561449 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 06:51:35 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAOBpZ309072 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 06:51:35 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 12:53:42 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XLQ2N11G; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 12:53:32 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031124125037.0281d3b8@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 12:51:21 +0100 Subject: Re: Orange Roughy from Namibia! In-Reply-To: <20031122231359.99221.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> References: <3FBFE68B.FBEA4BF4@maynor.net> <20031122231359.99221.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 15:13 22.11.2003 -0800 skrev Lynne Weber: >--- Natalie Maynor wrote: > I finally found "product of Namibia." So >> will we eat fresh >> orange roughy on our trip? > >This, in itself, would be worth the trip! And have you lovers of orange roughy considered eating it a sin? Here is some infor for instance: http://www.audubon.org/campaign/lo/seafood/roughy.html Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 13:18:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANJInXc007310 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:18:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A577FC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 6:58:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 561553 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 06:58:25 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAOBwO309346 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 06:58:24 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 13:00:32 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XLQ2N1F9; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 13:00:24 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031124125238.02785570@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 12:58:13 +0100 Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <001d01c3b14e$866901e0$e1cadece@0018079268> References: <20031122043716.26148.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20031122063851.00a63c70@uclink.berkeley.edu> <001d01c3b14e$866901e0$e1cadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 17:15 22.11.2003 -0600 skrev Doris Markland: >> >> That is too simple. I'm sure you can think of people who must have >just >> been born evil. >> >> Betty > >My dear, IMHO if someone evil from >the beginning . . . this maybe wasn't their beginning >. . they've learned the behavior somewhere. >Or, on the other hand, maybe it really is their >beginning and they're still in kindergarten. > >We are the result of all we have learned thru >experience (and all we have failed to learn, no >doubt). I happen to feel we get more than one >opportunity to enroll in this school, and it could >be, you know, that some are held back from time >to time and not promoted to the next grade until >they learn certain things, so we see them >making the same mistakes over and over. >And some pay attention a little better and just >move right along. > >If this makes no sense to anyone, that's quite >all right. I've been shopping all afternoon and I >hate to shop. It's exhausting and does not prepare >me to answer emails sensibly. I'm supposed to >be packing for my trip, and a freezing rain is >falling to be followed by snow and we wonder if >we can drive to Omaha to the airport tomorrow. >Perhaps I should check my karma gauge. We used to see a cat every morning when we were in Koroni on the Peloponnese last year. It had a black mark like half a Hitler mustache - we wondered whether this was karma going back to Hitler: when everything was worked out there would be a cat with no traces of the mustache - in a few hundred more cat generations? But this is interesting to me in many ways: one of the basic ideas in Buddhism is that there is no permanent lasting self - everything is always changing. OTOH some identidy between incarnations is supposed in for instance Tibetan Buddhism. The Dalai Lama is supposed to be an incarnation of a boddhisatva, Avalokiteshvara (or Chenresig), so that may be a special case, but there are other positions in the Tibetan Buddhist hierarchies were applicants have to be shown to be reborn lamas. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 13:42:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANJgkXc007431 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:42:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F5684@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 7:22:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 562152 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:22:21 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAOCML330166 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:22:21 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.130.99]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031124122216.VGTB1909.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:22:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC1F7F7.5FCF7E86@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 06:22:15 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Protest Organizers References: <1BAABA12-1E51-11D8-B8D7-00039383D034@onetel.net.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Roy Jaques wrote: > Londoners have to pay for the police overtime, can we send the bill to > the > White House or the your Secret Service ? I don't see why not. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 13:43:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANJhSXc007445 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:43:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F568A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 7:23:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 562160 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:23:04 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAOCN4330197 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:23:04 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.130.99]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031124122258.VGWF1909.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:22:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC1F822.E05B6BB7@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 06:22:58 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <3FBEAD91.52379A3E@maynor.net> <3FBED1B3.3A78E8E3@maynor.net> <6.0.0.22.0.20031124123013.0272e328@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen Ore wrote: > A spirit of Christmases of the past? Possibility. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l*words-l**GTOAL*-COM@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 13:44:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANJi3Xc007456 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:44:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5784F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 7:23:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 562198 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:23:39 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAOCNd330228 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:23:39 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.130.99]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031124122333.VGYV1909.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:23:33 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC1F845.CFD792FE@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 06:23:33 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Orange Roughy from Namibia! References: <3FBFE68B.FBEA4BF4@maynor.net> <20031122231359.99221.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20031124125037.0281d3b8@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen Ore wrote: > And have you lovers of orange roughy considered eating it a sin? Yes. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 13:49:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANJnXXc007495 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:49:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5784B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 7:29:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 562392 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:29:09 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAOCT9330639 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:29:09 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 13:31:16 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XLQ2N1N3; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 13:31:09 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031124132720.027c8758@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 13:28:59 +0100 Subject: Re: Digital camera - or IMFTATL In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031124014434.03de18c0@mail.istori.com> References: <6108f648ab.648ab6108f@optonline.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031124014434.03de18c0@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 02:28 24.11.2003 -0800 skrev Peter Kaminski: >Espen Ore writes, > >>I am looking for a digital camera for serious use - ideally one with the >>same possibilities as an OK reflex camera. > >Here's a couple of the good review sites: >http://www.steves-digicams.com/ >http://www.dpreview.com/ > >Look for 4+ megapixels and 3+ optical (not digital) zoom. 10x optical zoom >is really nice (but don't trade off quality on the lens for it). Good >brands are Canon, Nikon, Minolta. Thank you very much! I have now been looking at 5 m-pixel compact cameras: Canon, Nikon and Olympos - and now you add Minolta to the list. This looks good! Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 14:18:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANKIlXc007677 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:18:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A578AE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 7:58:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 563091 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:58:23 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAOCwM300348 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:58:23 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 14:00:30 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XLQ2N1YM; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 14:00:17 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031124135436.027c7218@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 13:58:06 +0100 Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 20:07 23.11.2003 +0000 skrev Rashmi Murthy: >>One of my 57-year-old friends (now 58 or 59 I think) >>sat down on March 1st >>at a wedding reception onto the spot on the floor >>where her chair had >>recently been. She broke her hip. Wow. You don't >>want to do that. Two >>months of therapy at her home while she couldn't go >>to work. A walker, >>then crutches, then a cane. She still has a bit of >>a limp. > >Geeze, bonnie, thanks for scaring the heck out of me. >My mom is this age and leads a busy and active life but >people there don't seem as worried/concerned about >broken hips, bones etc. Here (on Words-L) I sense a >deep interest bordering on obsession with the subject. > >Are folk in other parts of the world (hi Espen, Kristin) as >informed about fosomax, osteoporosis and aging bones? I have never met fosomax. I *have* read about oseoporosis since people are wondering why this is more comon among women in Norway than in many other countries (no statistics available here just now). Especially since it has been the belief (probably indoctrination from the Norwegian diary industry) that the "traditional" Norwegian diet with quite a lot of milk and cheese included was necessary so that people got the calcium they needed and so had strong bones. The relatively high level of osteoporosis and the icy sidewalks in Oslo in the winter add up to a lot of broken armes and legs. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 14:24:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANKOXXc007727 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:24:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A578D2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 8:04:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 563379 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 08:04:09 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAOD48300987 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 08:04:08 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAOD45iM025468 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:04:06 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:05:34 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <386391985.20031124070534@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: It's Time In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.0.20031124135436.027c7218@localhost> References: <6.0.0.22.0.20031124135436.027c7218@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, November 24, 2003, Espen Ore wrote: > I have never met fosomax. I *have* read about oseoporosis since > people are wondering why this is more comon among women in Norway > than in many other countries (no statistics available here just > now). Especially since it has been the belief (probably > indoctrination from the Norwegian diary industry) that the > "traditional" Norwegian diet with quite a lot of milk and cheese > included was necessary so that people got the calcium they needed > and so had strong bones. I would have thought that the ingestion of bone-in fish like sardines would have also helped. Maybe the lack of sunlight is a factor. > The relatively high level of osteoporosis > and the icy sidewalks in Oslo in the winter add up to a lot of > broken armes and legs. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 14:59:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANKxeXc007930 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:59:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5795F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 8:39:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 564742 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 08:39:16 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAODdF304663 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 08:39:15 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 05:36:14 PST Message-ID: <20031124133614.57978.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 05:36:14 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Orange Roughy from Namibia! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.0.20031124125037.0281d3b8@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Espen Ore wrote: > And have you lovers of orange roughy considered > eating it a sin? > > Here is some infor for instance: > > http://www.audubon.org/campaign/lo/seafood/roughy.html Very good information, some of it I think lurking in my subconscious for a while. But can the consumer be expected to research the endangerment, availability, and ecological practices of the providers? The fishermen themselves should realize when they are fishing themselves out of business, and government authorities should have some responsibility for protecting what amounts to natural resources. Really, Espen, if I had to worry about all this stuff, I'd never wear a tiger skin again. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 15:00:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANL01Xc007964 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:00:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F57B5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 8:39:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 564755 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 08:39:36 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAODda304700 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 08:39:36 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 05:39:31 PST Message-ID: <20031124133931.20465.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 05:39:31 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Protest Organizers To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FC1F7F7.5FCF7E86@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Roy Jaques wrote: > > > Londoners have to pay for the police overtime, can > we send the bill to > > the > > White House or the your Secret Service ? > > I don't see why not. I expect there is a fair trade-off along the way that involves the protection of foreign dignitaries and crowd control in the US. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 23 15:05:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hANL53Xc007985 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:05:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F57D1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 8:44:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 564906 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 08:44:38 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAODic305159 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 08:44:38 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 14:46:45 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XLQ2NFCJ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 14:46:34 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031124144327.0279c3e0@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 14:44:23 +0100 Subject: Re: Orange Roughy from Namibia! In-Reply-To: <20031124133614.57978.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> References: <6.0.0.22.0.20031124125037.0281d3b8@localhost> <20031124133614.57978.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 05:36 24.11.2003 -0800 skrev Lynne Weber: >Really, Espen, if I had to worry about all this stuff, >I'd never wear a tiger skin again. And then you will tell me that the next piano you build uses ivory for the white keys ... Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 07:45:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPDj8Xc017963 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:45:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A57D2B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:37:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 573744 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:37:15 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAOFbF324917 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:37:15 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:28:59 PST Message-ID: <20031124152859.18372.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:28:59 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Petsmart To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <11229a10fe45.10fe4511229a@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote: > Laszlo watches the Weather Channel every day. > > He definitely reacts to TV -- barking dogs and > ringing bells get him very excited. As do Devils > goals, but that might be more in response to the > strange dance done by the otherwise normal Man > Person. There is one TV commercial that features a noise that sounds like chalk scriiitching on a blackboard; Jaysie reacts to it much as we would. But other TV sounds don't have much impact on her, unless they are very deep in tone. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 07:45:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPDj8Xc017959 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:45:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A579EF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 9:03:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 565991 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:03:00 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAOE30307673 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:03:00 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F5824@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 9:02:59 -0500 Message-Id: <200311241403.hAOE30307673@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:02:59 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Orange Roughy from Namibia! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 14:44:23 +0100, Espen Ore wrote: >And then you will tell me that the next piano you build uses ivory for the white keys ... I thought ivory was off the taboo list? Or was it just the stored ivory that they were selling? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 07:45:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPDj8Xc017960 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:45:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A57AA1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 9:28:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 567938 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:28:13 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAOESC311895 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:28:13 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 15:30:19 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XLQ2NFKK; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 15:30:13 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031124152707.024f82b0@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 15:27:58 +0100 Subject: Re: Orange Roughy from Namibia! In-Reply-To: <200311241403.hAOE30307673@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200311241403.hAOE30307673@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 09:02 24.11.2003 -0500 skrev Karen Kay: >On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 14:44:23 +0100, Espen Ore wrote: >>And then you will tell me that the next piano you build uses ivory for the >white keys ... > >I thought ivory was off the taboo list? Or was it just the stored ivory >that they were selling? I am not sure - I believe this may be nation dependent. Just like as far as I know sealskin is not accepted into the USA. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 07:45:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPDj8Xd017959 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:45:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A57D37@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:40:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 574068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:40:57 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAOFev325453 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:40:57 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:22:30 PST Message-ID: <20031124152230.85261.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:22:30 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Orange Roughy from Namibia! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.0.20031124144327.0279c3e0@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Espen Ore wrote: > And then you will tell me that the next piano you > build uses ivory for the white keys ... Ah, you've been peeking into my carpentry shop:-] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 07:45:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPDj8Xd017960 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:45:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A57E4D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 11:03:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 576317 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 11:03:51 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAOG3p329691 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 11:03:51 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:31:47 PST Message-ID: <20031124153147.75289.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:31:47 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Petsmart To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <11229a10fe45.10fe4511229a@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote: > Laszlo watches the Weather Channel every day. > > He definitely reacts to TV -- barking dogs and > ringing bells get him very excited. As do Devils > goals, but that might be more in response to the > strange dance done by the otherwise normal Man > Person. P.S. I often leave the TV on for Jaysie when I leave her alone in the house. I don't know if she notices, but it helps my feelings. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 07:45:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPDj8Xd017961 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:45:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A57E7E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 11:07:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 576743 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 11:07:43 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAOG7g330532 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 11:07:42 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:41:46 PST Message-ID: <20031124154146.7513.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:41:46 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Orange Roughy from Namibia! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031124094130.00b402c8@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > If you lived on this coast, you would quickly see > how naive (naive as in > innocent, not as in stupid) your question is. Most > North Atlantic stocks > (at least on this side of the pond) are in great > trouble and have been for > decades. (Incidentally, one of the "benefits" of > WWII was that with the > virtual cessation of oceanic fishing, some stocks > were able to begin > recovery---but it didn't take long for the present > trend to be > re-established. Earlier on, probably one of the > mistakes of the Magna > Carta was to strip the Crown of the ability to grant > private fishing > rights.) Irrespective of the condition of the > stocks, the fishermen > continue to pressure for fewer regulations and more > fishing. Fishing boats > have become bigger, allowing them to wield larger, > more effective gear (and > stay out on the fishing grounds longer). Technology > initially developed to > hunt submarines has been adapted to hunting fish > schools. > > Why all this? Because oceanic commercial fishing is > a culture. It is what > those people involved and what they have done > for generations. They > don't want to change---and even for some who might > be amenable to change, > their economic investment is too large to simply > walk away from. > > As for the government, it tries on the national and > international > levels---but it runs in the face of local and state > politics, most of which > is geared to retaining the voting support of the > fishermen and the fishing > industry. Then of course there are the industry > lobbies---wholesalers, > retailers, boat-builders, etc. Its big business. > Moreover, all > governments of countries involved do not agree on > regulation/protection > because each is grappling with its own mix of > economic and cultural > factors. Basically what happens is that as each > "preferred" species is > exploited to the point that it is no longer > profitable***, other species > enter the arena. Orange roughy is an > example---fifty years ago, it likely > was thrown back as unmarketable. > > This coast is not unique, either. While we debate > the future of the cod > (bleak), try to protect native Atlantic salmon > stocks (iffy), and speculate > about the lobster (catches were down this year after > several years of > excellent harvest), the Pacific coast debates salmon > and the catch-limited > halibut seasons get shorter every year. > > cwv > > ***All commercial fishing interests continue to > ignore Michael Graham's > (1949) Great Law of Fisheries: "Fisheries that are > unregulated become > unprofitable." I agree with all the above, and realize that fishing, like farming, is much more than a way to make a living. Redfish are about fished out in the Gulf because of the popularity several years ago of "blackened" fish dishes. My father insisted that I know what Rachel Carson was writing about when other kids were reading Wind in the Willows. He had a deep interest in ecology (in particular, marine ecology) long before it became a label. Thanks for the info, it's very important. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 07:45:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPDj8Xd017962 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:45:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A57EF6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 11:22:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 577874 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 11:22:55 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAOGMs300559 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 11:22:55 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.130.99]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031124162249.WQSY1873.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 11:22:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC23059.77E671C9@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:22:49 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: TWD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU TWD obviously survived last night's pouring rain and dropping temperatures. He was near the bakery when I went to the p.o. a little while ago. When I was leaving, I saw him heading over toward the drillfield. I just checked the webcam to see whether he was there, but I fear the webcam was messed up by the rain. It shows what appears to be a moonscape. I saw no hint of TWD in the strange image. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 07:45:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPDj8Xe017961 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:45:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A58CA1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:41:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 609861 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:41:10 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAOMf9t05983 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:41:09 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.130.99]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031124223517.HNZF1909.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:35:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC28784.66F4665A@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 16:34:44 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Hey, Alan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just had e-interaction with your friend The Lobster Guy: > Sincerely, > > Captain Tim > TheLobsterGuy And Doris would be pleased that I've also had e-interaction with Omaha Steaks. Remind me to tell her when she's back online: > Sincerely, > > Fred Simon, Owner > OmahaSteaks.com I just did my xmas shopping in one fell swoop. I ordered lots of fancy lobstery stuff for my RRB&SIL&N, and since I've heard my niece talk about cooking steaks outside, I ordered an Omaha Steaks gift certificate for her. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 07:45:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPDj8Xe017963 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:45:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A58D59@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 18:16:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 611545 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 18:16:08 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAONG8t09931 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 18:16:08 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.130.99]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031124231553.OXGB1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 18:15:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC29110.960EE429@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:15:28 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Probably Won't Move to Belfast Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Maine, that is. Or N. Ireland either. Cold weather takes away my energy and enthusiasm for life. I had been planning on going tonight to a meeting of the Democratic Women, but I have just made the decision not to. I don't want to go outside again into the cold air. Besides, it's just somebody speaking on something about women in the 21st century, which sounds frightfully boring. I'm not into women's groups. I like the Dem Wom group because we do lots and lots of useful stuff to help candidates, etc. We are an excellent work group. But tonight's meeting isn't about working for candidates or anything else useful. Anyway, I'm glad I'm not going. I'm going to watch "Shenandoah" on tv instead, snuggling with Spencer in our winter cacoon. I am more enthusiastic about everything in warm weather. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 07:45:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPDj8Xf017961 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:45:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A58EB1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 19:10:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 614853 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 19:10:22 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAP0ALt16585 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 19:10:21 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.130.99]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031125001012.PWUE1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 19:10:12 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC29DE4.8F50CEBD@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 18:10:12 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Verdant Would Love This Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It's pretty silly, but I naturally thought of Verdant when stumbling upon it: http://www.spankbush.com/ -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 07:45:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPDj8Xe017960 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:45:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5879A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 15:27:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 598662 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 15:27:54 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAOKRrt14982 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 15:27:54 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F65D8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 15:27:52 -0500 Message-Id: <200311242027.hAOKRrt14982@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 15:27:53 -0500 From: mem Subject: Re: Digital camera - or IMFTATL To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:34:56 -0500, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: >Canon---and I believe Nikon as well---now are producing digital backs for >their standard lines of autofocus SLRs. The 6.3 megapixel Canon, which >accepts all Canon EF lenses, sells for $899 according to the Samy's Camera >catalog I received last week. This is the model Canon markets in the United States as the EOS Digital Rebel. There is some limitation on which of the EF lenses it accepts, but that's a minor thing. With a modest 18-55mm lens, it will squeeze into a $1,000 budgt (at U.S. prices). It is a very nice camera. It has the comfortable--to me--feel and function of a traditional SLR, with both automatic and manual modes. The sensor is the same as that in the more expensive model. >Canon makes another digital autofocus SLR >("call for price, " which means it's probably >>$900). The major >difference seems to be that with the more expensive one, you get an LCD >monitor. The next one up the line is the EOS 10D, and the differences are more extensive than this. Actually, the cheaper one has an LCD monitor as well. The price tag with one good lens, however, will be more than double that $1,000 budget. This is a larger and noticeably heavier camera, which might not be appreciated in the situation Espen described (unless photography is the principal purpose of the trip). Under those circumstances, I would go for the cheaper one, too. It will produce the same excellent images and will be easier to manage. I bought one of these (a 10D) a couple of weeks ago, and I absolutely love it. I now rather regret the time and money I spent going through a couple of consumer-level Nikons (a Coolpix 950 and a Coolpix 5000). There is a good argument to be made, I suppose, for not confining digital cameras to the old form factors of the past, but for me, picking up the Canon digital SLR was akin to a joyous homecoming. Anyway, the Canons definitely deserve a look if you want a digital camera in an SLR package. mem From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 07:45:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPDj8Xf017960 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:45:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A58F3C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 19:49:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 616253 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 19:49:04 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAP0n4t20408 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 19:49:04 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAP0n0Uh019154 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 18:49:01 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 18:50:32 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <863291064.20031124185032@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: It's Time In-Reply-To: <619424250.1069703143@TWild.uri.edu> References: <20031122224236.86915.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <619424250.1069703143@TWild.uri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, November 24, 2003, Terry Wild wrote: > I see Alan hasn't had time to respond to this yet. Will is not a bad > speller, B average. He just got tripped up by procedure last week. They > had to choose their spelling words and later in the week staple a copy into > their reading journal. Will didn't do this, so on Friday, there were no > spelling words to ask him, thus the 0. "choose their spelling words"? I wish life worked like that! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 07:45:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPDj8Xf017963 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:45:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A59002@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:50:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 618332 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:50:15 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f108.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.108]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAP1oFt26956 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:50:15 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:50:09 -0800 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 01:50:09 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: off to the north country Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:50:09 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Nov 2003 01:50:09.0816 (UTC) FILETIME=[756B2180:01C3B2F6] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU And thus, nomail. _________________________________________________________________ Groove on the latest from the hot new rock groups! Get downloads, videos, and more here. http://special.msn.com/entertainment/wiredformusic.armx From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 07:45:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPDj8Xg017959 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:45:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A59039@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 21:00:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 618748 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 21:00:16 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAP20Ft27735 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 21:00:15 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-184.gwi.net [216.195.152.184]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAP203Gp098314; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 21:00:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031124205730.00b55128@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:57:44 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: off to the north country In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:50 PM 11/24/2003 -0500, Marty Rosen wrote: >And thus, nomail. enjoy cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 07:45:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPDj8Xg017961 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:45:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A59024@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:54:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 618563 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:54:20 -0500 Received: from mail46.messagelabs.com (mail46.messagelabs.com [64.125.76.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAP1sKt27271 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:54:20 -0500 Received: (qmail 17856 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2003 01:54:19 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-13.tower-46.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 2003 01:54:19 -0000 Received: from ularit (client-151-197-197-186.ba-dsg.net [151.197.197.186]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E99671140 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:54:15 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-13.tower-46.messagelabs.com!1069725258!229556 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.13; banners=.,-,- Message-ID: <003701c3b2f7$08c859c0$bac5c597@ularit> From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:54:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adam Hartfield" To: Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 8:19 PM Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation > > Speaking of New Haven, I've never had New Haven pizza. Is it as > > good as it's supposed to be? > > I had Pepe's pizza once with Emily. It was tasty. Thin crisp crust and > ultra-hot toppings which burnt the roof of my mouth. :( > > I miss pizza. > > --Adam > Eat one slice. It won't kill you. Missing food is no fun. alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 07:45:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPDj8Xg017960 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:45:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5905E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 21:09:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 619155 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 21:09:43 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAP29ht28613 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 21:09:43 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003112502093701300k8b32e> (Authid: adamh1); Tue, 25 Nov 2003 02:09:37 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 21:09:36 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <003701c3b2f7$08c859c0$bac5c597@ularit> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Eat one slice. It won't kill you. Missing food is no fun. I eat it from time to time at work, but I always make sure to have frozen veggies on hand to have with it in just such situations. You're right, one slice won't kill me. It will just make me want more. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 07:45:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPDj8Xg017962 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:45:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5906F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 21:17:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 619431 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 21:17:29 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAP2HTt29405 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 21:17:29 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAP2HR2f029704 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 18:17:28 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAP2HQJC029684 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 18:17:27 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031124181917.00a305e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 18:19:44 -0800 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Dusty Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie, have you kept in touch with her? Wordsler from Alaska? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 07:45:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPDj8Xd017963 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:45:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5837E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 13:20:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 588439 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 13:20:43 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAOIKgt23719 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 13:20:43 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 13:20:37 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7780C@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Strong reaction to spam Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 13:20:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Carolyn Ostrander [mailto:clostran@SYR.EDU] > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 10:59 PM > On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:49:07 -0600, Karen Kay > wrote: > > >http://www.thescotsman.co.uk/international.cfm?id=1295402003 > > > >I think the source of the article is amusing, too. > > > >Karen > > He has all my sympathies, particularly since the vaunted > anti-spam program > here was inadvertently loaded with a short-term license that > expired this > afternoon, resulting in an immediate return of fellatial imagery to my > inbox. Ewww! What's really sad is to listen to the folks in DC claiming to shut down spam with their new legislation. IIRC, the Senate will read|vote today. As it's written (I can retrieve a .PDF for interested parties - it's about fifty-five pages) it will not do anything to assist those who have email accounts to receive any less spam than they currently receive. Microsoft, the DMA (Direct Marketing Association ~5k member companies), et al. were lobbying to push this through because California's new anti-spam was finally going to have some teeth and the DMA knew it would hurt them. Individuals will no longer be able to see remedy and it'll take a state's attorney general (or higher) to do it. The FTC is expected (tongue-in-cheek) to be the primary enforcer of the legislation as well as to returm within two years to make a report regarding how effective the legislation was. The FTC has made two or three major busts, but they seem afraid to take on the major spammers. There is plenty of evidence on those individuals such that even if the FTC doesn't want to use that information in the courtroom it'd provide a starting point. The top five to ten spammers crank out incredible volumes of spam. What will happen with the FTC is they don't even provide resources to deal with this. All of the new "How to Deal with Spam" magazine articles tell people to forward spam to the FTC. It's getting to the point where that option is worthless because the FTC inbox overflows & bounces. That means a statistical analysis involving how much spam was sent to the FTC will be substantially smaller than it should be. The CAN-SPAM (what the feds are calling the new law) law has routinely been named: "You CAN-SPAM all you want to." From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 07:45:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPDj8Xh017959 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:45:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A591A3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 22:32:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 622400 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 22:32:16 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAP3WGt04233 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 22:32:16 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.130.99]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031125033211.ROYP2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 22:32:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC2CD3B.EAED1291@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 21:32:11 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dusty References: <4.2.2.20031124181917.00a305e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > > Natalie, have you kept in touch with her? Wordsler from Alaska? No, I have lost total track of her. I think the last time I communicated with her was when we called her from the very first July 4 list fest -- from Leonard Abbey's house. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 07:45:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPDj8Xh017962 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:45:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A591D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 22:47:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 622914 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 22:47:26 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAP3lQt05677 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 22:47:26 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.130.99]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031125034721.RUOC2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 22:47:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC2D0C9.3C0B5E2B@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 21:47:21 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Probably Won't Move to Belfast References: <20031125022331.21340.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> <3FC2CEC3.7002B26F@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Lynne Weber wrote: > > > What has become of Ms. Blackmon? Do you think she'll > > ever take another shot, or did that one miscalculation > > destine her to political oblivion? > > She's still a state senator. Don't know whether she'll take another > shot at a bigger office, but I'm guessing that it won't be successful if > she does. It's not just that miscalculation re the abortion thing. She > was also not a gracious loser. She flung accusations and behaved in a > not very nice way overall. I think I mentioned way back that there were > misgivings among many people, including staunch Democrats, about what > appeared to be a racist attitude about her -- that she didn't much like > honkies. That came out quite a bit in the aftermath of the election. I > think her goose is probably well-done re state office. I should add that she might not have made it anyway, even if she hadn't made the abortion gaffe. She had a pretty good shot at it, but she had another pretty heavy liability -- being against or at least soft on tort reform. That's a major issue in the state, and her having become a millionnaire through law cases soaking in money because of the limitless liability stuff bothered quite a few people. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 07:45:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPDj8Xh017963 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:45:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A59202@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 22:55:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 623479 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 22:55:16 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAP3tGt06463 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 22:55:16 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.130.99]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031125035511.RXKU2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 22:55:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC2D29F.32420F7C@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 21:55:11 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <20031125023208.7641.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > I now see that Will has no > problem with words. It is stapling a journal with > which he has a problem, and who can blame him? So he can indeed serve as Ana's secretary when they get married. I really am looking forward to that wedding. What a great list event it will be. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 07:45:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPDj8Xi017961 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:45:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5925B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 23:14:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 624442 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 23:14:09 -0500 Received: from sccmmhc02.asp.att.net (sccmmhc02.asp.att.net [204.127.203.184]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAP4E9t08412 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 23:14:09 -0500 Received: from willows.meadowsedge.net (12-223-225-168.client.insightbb.com[12.223.225.168]) by sccmmhc02.asp.att.net (sccmmhc02) with ESMTP id <20031125041402mm200eqt3be>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 04:14:02 +0000 Received: from kiva.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by willows.meadowsedge.net (Postfix) with SMTP id DE9E3C3923 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 23:18:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 23:18:28 -0500 From: Tom Lee To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dusty Message-Id: <20031124231828.4ae71fd9.flint@kiva.net> In-Reply-To: <3FC2CD3B.EAED1291@maynor.net> References: <4.2.2.20031124181917.00a305e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FC2CD3B.EAED1291@maynor.net> Organization: Lamplighter Enterprises X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.7 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i586-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wow, I remember Dusty ... she was really cool. -- Take care, Tom Lee stumbling around in the cluttered attic I call my memory On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 21:32:11 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Betty wrote: > > > > Natalie, have you kept in touch with her? Wordsler from Alaska? > > No, I have lost total track of her. I think the last time I > communicated with her was when we called her from the very first July 4 > list fest -- from Leonard Abbey's house. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 07:45:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPDj8Xi017959 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:45:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A59645@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 0:28:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 631825 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 00:26:57 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAP57Tt14823 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 00:07:29 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 19:52:37 PST Message-ID: <20031125035237.79542.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 19:52:37 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Probably Won't Move to Belfast To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FC2D0C9.3C0B5E2B@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: but she had > another pretty heavy liability -- being against or > at least soft on tort > reform. That's a major issue in the state, and her > having become a > millionnaire through law cases soaking in money > because of the limitless > liability stuff bothered quite a few people. Maybe those big bucks will be a comfort to her, but I somehow doubt it. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 07:45:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPDj8Xi017962 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:45:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A596A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 0:46:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 633206 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 00:46:51 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAP5kpt18126 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 00:46:51 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 19:48:48 PST Message-ID: <20031125034848.69060.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 19:48:48 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Probably Won't Move to Belfast To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FC2CEC3.7002B26F@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: I think I mentioned way > back that there were > misgivings among many people, including staunch > Democrats, about what > appeared to be a racist attitude about her -- that > she didn't much like > honkies. That came out quite a bit in the aftermath > of the election. I > think her goose is probably well-done re state > office. I do recall that you mentioned this, her possible bias. Too bad. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 07:45:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPDj8Xj017961 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:45:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A59B57@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 6:52:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 643549 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 06:52:09 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAPBq8t11659 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 06:52:08 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A59B44@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 6:52:08 -0500 Message-Id: <200311251152.hAPBq8t11659@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 06:52:08 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: wicked cold tonight To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 21:20:45 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >It's winter, finally. I had to go out to the barn very early - in the rain >- to put some clothes on her equine highness ... she's wearing her sheet >for the first time this fall ... the critters were all very feisty today >... > >Bethany Yep. It was almost 70, blue skies and warm as I was teaching CS in the Southern Tier yesterday, then I drove home through sheets of rain. By 7pm it was hail, then lightning and snow. It's still supposed to get up over freezing in the daytime. It's been fun trying to convert from F to C in our heads with the German houseguest to talk abt the weather! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 07:45:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPDj8Xj017959 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:45:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A59BBF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 7:05:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 644337 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:05:13 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAPC5Dt31420 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:05:13 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.165.74]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031125120508.UNYF2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:05:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC34575.83C3EA6D@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 06:05:09 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dusty References: <4.2.2.20031124181917.00a305e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FC2CD3B.EAED1291@maynor.net> <20031124231828.4ae71fd9.flint@kiva.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tom Lee wrote: > > Wow, I remember Dusty ... she was really cool. You'd think it would be easy to find her on the web, but googling for '"dusty deal" alaska' produced only this: http://www.florilegium.org/files/PERFORMANCE-ARTS/bardic-msg.text -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 07:45:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPDj8Xj017960 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:45:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A59BC2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 7:05:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 644358 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:05:59 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAPC5wt31438 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:05:58 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.165.74]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031125120553.UOBZ2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:05:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC345A2.806B4DDD@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 06:05:54 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wicked cold tonight References: <200311251152.hAPBq8t11659@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > It's been fun trying to convert from F to C in our heads with the German > houseguest to talk abt the weather! So how are things going with the German houseguest? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 07:45:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPDj8Xj017962 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:45:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A59BD2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 7:14:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 644571 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:14:55 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAPCEtt32008 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:14:55 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-184-130.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.184.130]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAPCEJVs019249 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 04:14:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FC3476F.8020704@swbell.net> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 06:13:35 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time References: <200311251154.hAPBsJt11945@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 19:56:39 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > > >>--- Natalie Maynor wrote: >> >>>So he can indeed serve as Ana's secretary when they >>>get married. I >>>really am looking forward to that wedding. What a >>>great list event it >>>will be. >>> >>Planning should begin asap. >> >> > > Certainly, why spare William or Ana any embarrassment? As long as Natalie is paying for it :). -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 07:45:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPDj8Xk017959 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:45:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A59C9A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 8:23:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 646495 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 08:23:15 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAPDNEF05696 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 08:23:14 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.165.74]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031125132309.IIBD1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 08:23:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC357BE.496570D0@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:23:10 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dusty References: <4.2.2.20031124181917.00a305e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FC2CD3B.EAED1291@maynor.net> <20031124231828.4ae71fd9.flint@kiva.net> <3FC34575.83C3EA6D@maynor.net> <3FC34BCD.1070601@bc.edu> <3FC34E58.1070803@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: > > http://www.mydeardiary.com/cgi-bin/diary.cgi?p=1&ak=8623 I am convinced that this is our Dusty! I wonder why she stopped the diary in 2000. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 07:45:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPDj8Xc017962 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:45:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A57CB5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:27:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 572828 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:27:28 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAOFRS323125 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:27:28 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-184.gwi.net [216.195.152.184]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAOFROGp006630; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:27:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031124094130.00b402c8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:27:24 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Orange Roughy from Namibia! In-Reply-To: <20031124133614.57978.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> References: <6.0.0.22.0.20031124125037.0281d3b8@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:36 AM 11/24/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >... The fishermen themselves should realize when they are >fishing themselves out of business, and government >authorities should have some responsibility for >protecting what amounts to natural resources. If you lived on this coast, you would quickly see how naive (naive as in innocent, not as in stupid) your question is. Most North Atlantic stocks (at least on this side of the pond) are in great trouble and have been for decades. (Incidentally, one of the "benefits" of WWII was that with the virtual cessation of oceanic fishing, some stocks were able to begin recovery---but it didn't take long for the present trend to be re-established. Earlier on, probably one of the mistakes of the Magna Carta was to strip the Crown of the ability to grant private fishing rights.) Irrespective of the condition of the stocks, the fishermen continue to pressure for fewer regulations and more fishing. Fishing boats have become bigger, allowing them to wield larger, more effective gear (and stay out on the fishing grounds longer). Technology initially developed to hunt submarines has been adapted to hunting fish schools. Why all this? Because oceanic commercial fishing is a culture. It is what those people involved and what they have done for generations. They don't want to change---and even for some who might be amenable to change, their economic investment is too large to simply walk away from. As for the government, it tries on the national and international levels---but it runs in the face of local and state politics, most of which is geared to retaining the voting support of the fishermen and the fishing industry. Then of course there are the industry lobbies---wholesalers, retailers, boat-builders, etc. Its big business. Moreover, all governments of countries involved do not agree on regulation/protection because each is grappling with its own mix of economic and cultural factors. Basically what happens is that as each "preferred" species is exploited to the point that it is no longer profitable***, other species enter the arena. Orange roughy is an example---fifty years ago, it likely was thrown back as unmarketable. This coast is not unique, either. While we debate the future of the cod (bleak), try to protect native Atlantic salmon stocks (iffy), and speculate about the lobster (catches were down this year after several years of excellent harvest), the Pacific coast debates salmon and the catch-limited halibut seasons get shorter every year. cwv ***All commercial fishing interests continue to ignore Michael Graham's (1949) Great Law of Fisheries: "Fisheries that are unregulated become unprofitable." From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 07:45:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPDj8Xc017961 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:45:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A57B49@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 9:48:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 569435 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:48:35 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAOEmY315630 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:48:34 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 15:50:41 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XLQ2NF3G; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 15:50:35 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031124154804.0278f400@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 15:48:25 +0100 Subject: Re: Digital camera - or IMFTATL In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031124092256.00b1ad30@pop.gwi.net> References: <6108f648ab.648ab6108f@optonline.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031124092256.00b1ad30@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 09:34 24.11.2003 -0500 skrev clyde w. voigtlander: >Another information source is: > >http://www.imaging-resource.com/INDEX.HTM > >Happy hunting. Thank you very much! Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 07:45:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPDj8Xe017962 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:45:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A58CF1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:56:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 610633 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:56:04 -0500 Received: from vmmr6.verisignmail.com (omrnat1.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.169]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAOMu4t07532 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:56:04 -0500 Received: from ms4.verisignmail.com (ms4.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.177] (may be forged)) by vmmr6.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id QHC74659; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:05:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by ms4.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id AVI82602; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:05:17 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 12:02:42 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Digital camera - or IMFTATL Reply-to: mem@noxiousweeds.net Message-ID: <3FC1F362.16065.9ECB9E@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <5.2.1.1.0.20031124160053.00b4ad48@pop.gwi.net> References: <200311242027.hAOKRrt14982@listserv.cc.uga.edu> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 24 Nov 2003 at 16:05, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > You are leading me into temptation. In the absence of anything resembling a spiritual life, the desire for instant gratification has always been a major force for me. Digital cameras give you a big dose of that. Relatively inexpensive printers now produce remarkable results if you want to generate prints yourself, and there are plenty of commercial services available if you don't. > The digital SLR route is definitely my inclination. Yes, I think you'll be happier with one of these than with many of the other things on the market, although you might want to consider something else if you want to get your feet wet first. > Unfortunately all of my old Canon FD lenses become orphans if I go that > way, I guess. In addition to the 18-55 or a reasonable facsimile, I > would want the 75-300 or thereabouts---and that gets into somewhat > heavier coin. Definitely a down side. The better lenses are very expensive indeed. mem From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 07:45:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPDj8Xf017959 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:45:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A58E40@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 18:53:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 613945 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 18:53:09 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAONr9t14221 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 18:53:09 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAONr5Uh015132 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:53:07 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:54:36 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1862771997.20031124175436@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, November 24, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: > Speaking of New Haven, I've never had New Haven pizza. Is it as good as it's supposed to be? I think so, but I don't like NYC pizza. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 07:45:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPDj8Xf017962 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:45:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A58F65@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:10:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 616887 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:10:02 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAP1A1t22474 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:10:01 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-184.gwi.net [216.195.152.184]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAP19wAt016905; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:10:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031124200256.00b4a920@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:09:48 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <619424250.1069703143@TWild.uri.edu> References: <20031122224236.86915.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <20031122224236.86915.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:45 PM 11/24/2003 -0500, Terry Wild wrote: >I see Alan hasn't had time to respond to this yet. Will is not a bad >speller, B average. He just got tripped up by procedure last week. They >had to choose their spelling words and later in the week staple a copy into >their reading journal. Will didn't do this, so on Friday, there were no >spelling words to ask him, thus the 0. Ah, so Will ran afoul of bureaucratic procedures. Well, for what it's worth to him, he isn't the first; not will it be the last time for him, unfortunately. Anyhow, I hope that he isn't unduly discouraged. Nihil illegitimae and all that.... cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 07:45:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPDj8Xg017963 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:45:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A59081@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 21:30:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 619544 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 21:30:46 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAP2Kjt29660 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 21:20:45 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAP2JkIm014720 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 21:19:46 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 21:20:45 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: wicked cold tonight Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It's winter, finally. I had to go out to the barn very early - in the rain - to put some clothes on her equine highness ... she's wearing her sheet for the first time this fall ... the critters were all very feisty today ... Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 07:45:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPDj8Xh017961 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:45:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5918E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 22:28:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 622266 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 22:28:49 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAP3Snt03884 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 22:28:49 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.130.99]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031125032844.RNRH2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 22:28:44 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC2CC6C.30ADB038@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 21:28:44 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Shenendoah Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I thought I had seen that movie before, but I hadn't. How could I have not seen it before?? And why did I think it was something about brothers fighting on different sides in the war? I was fascinated while watching it that I had not in fact ever seen it before and didn't know what it was really about, except for being about the war. Good movie. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 07:45:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPDj8Xe017959 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:45:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A585EF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 14:32:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 594594 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 14:32:55 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAOJWot04896 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 14:32:55 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 14:32:44 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7780D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Petsmart Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 14:32:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Marie Ascher [mailto:14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET] > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 10:07 AM > > now. They are doing fine. The TV was left on for them, tuned to > > CNN, so > > that they can "hear a human voice and keep up with the news." > > Yeah, right. > > Laszlo watches the Weather Channel every day. > > He definitely reacts to TV -- barking dogs and ringing bells > get him very excited. As do Devils goals, but that might be > more in response to the strange dance done by the otherwise > normal Man Person. This isn't a tv, but have you tried getting a laser pointer (an inexpensive one will do) and displayed it on the floor? So far, all of the cats & dogs I've seen exposed to the red dot on the floor go nuts - and it continues as that red dot moves around on the floor. I haven't tried it, but I wonder if a pet wouldn't come in at night whether that red dot might help direct them to the door. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 07:45:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPDj8Xh017960 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:45:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A591B8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 22:38:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 622612 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 22:38:48 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAP3cmt04868 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 22:38:48 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.130.99]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031125033842.RRGT2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 22:38:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC2CEC3.7002B26F@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 21:38:43 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Probably Won't Move to Belfast References: <20031125022331.21340.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > What has become of Ms. Blackmon? Do you think she'll > ever take another shot, or did that one miscalculation > destine her to political oblivion? She's still a state senator. Don't know whether she'll take another shot at a bigger office, but I'm guessing that it won't be successful if she does. It's not just that miscalculation re the abortion thing. She was also not a gracious loser. She flung accusations and behaved in a not very nice way overall. I think I mentioned way back that there were misgivings among many people, including staunch Democrats, about what appeared to be a racist attitude about her -- that she didn't much like honkies. That came out quite a bit in the aftermath of the election. I think her goose is probably well-done re state office. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 07:45:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPDj8Xi017960 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:45:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A59669@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 0:30:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 632797 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 00:30:37 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAP5Ubt16592 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 00:30:37 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 19:56:39 PST Message-ID: <20031125035639.7343.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 19:56:39 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: It's Time To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FC2D29F.32420F7C@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > So he can indeed serve as Ana's secretary when they > get married. I > really am looking forward to that wedding. What a > great list event it > will be. Planning should begin asap. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 07:45:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPDj8Xi017963 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:45:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A59B5B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 6:54:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 643730 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 06:54:19 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAPBsJt11945 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 06:54:19 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F78E9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 6:54:19 -0500 Message-Id: <200311251154.hAPBsJt11945@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 06:54:19 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: It's Time To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 19:56:39 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Natalie Maynor wrote: >> So he can indeed serve as Ana's secretary when they >> get married. I >> really am looking forward to that wedding. What a >> great list event it >> will be. > >Planning should begin asap. > Certainly, why spare William or Ana any embarrassment? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 07:45:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPDj8Xj017963 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:45:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A59C1C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 7:43:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 645265 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:43:02 -0500 Received: from fe3.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAPCh2F02438 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:43:02 -0500 Received: from [136.167.88.181] (HELO bc.edu) by fe3.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 36885680 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:43:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC34E58.1070803@bc.edu> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:43:04 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dusty References: <4.2.2.20031124181917.00a305e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FC2CD3B.EAED1291@maynor.net> <20031124231828.4ae71fd9.flint@kiva.net> <3FC34575.83C3EA6D@maynor.net> <3FC34BCD.1070601@bc.edu> In-Reply-To: <3FC34BCD.1070601@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: > But googling for "Barbarian Wench" yields this: > > http://www.mydeardiary.com/cgi-bin/diary.cgi?p=1&ak=8623 > > I can't remember if Dusty had a son. If so, and if he was seven or > eight when she was active on this list, the diarist above could be she. > > Rita L. > (Replying to my own post - very bad form!) I skimmed several pages of the diary looking for clues. I think that "My name is Dusty" on the 17th page is a good one :-) Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 07:45:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPDj8Xk017961 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:45:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A59C0B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 7:32:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 645063 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:32:11 -0500 Received: from fe2.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAPCWBF01615 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:32:11 -0500 Received: from [136.167.88.181] (HELO bc.edu) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 35688925 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:32:10 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC34BCD.1070601@bc.edu> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:32:13 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dusty References: <4.2.2.20031124181917.00a305e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FC2CD3B.EAED1291@maynor.net> <20031124231828.4ae71fd9.flint@kiva.net> <3FC34575.83C3EA6D@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <3FC34575.83C3EA6D@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: >You'd think it would be easy to find her on the web, but googling for >'"dusty deal" alaska' produced only this: > >http://www.florilegium.org/files/PERFORMANCE-ARTS/bardic-msg.text > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > But googling for "Barbarian Wench" yields this: http://www.mydeardiary.com/cgi-bin/diary.cgi?p=1&ak=8623 I can't remember if Dusty had a son. If so, and if he was seven or eight when she was active on this list, the diarist above could be she. Rita L. -- Rita Leonard From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 08:21:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPELqXc018354 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 08:21:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F593E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 9:38:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 568678 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:38:43 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAOEch313637 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:38:43 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-184.gwi.net [216.195.152.184]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAOEcdAt005766; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:38:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031124092256.00b1ad30@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:34:56 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Digital camera - or IMFTATL In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.0.20031124100245.0275c630@localhost> References: <6108f648ab.648ab6108f@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:10 AM 11/24/2003 +0100, Espen Ore wrote: >I am looking for a digital camera for serious use - ideally one with the >same possibilities as an OK reflex camera. This is not for me but for >Ingjerd's use in field work, so how and how many images can be stored >while she is stuck on some dreeadful island with palms and beaches in the >South Pacific is important as is whether the camera seems likely to >survive in not always ideal climatic conditions (hot and humid). I would >be grateful for any suggestions - I can check with importers here for >available models. (The price should be up to $ 1000, but I am not sure how >the camera prices are comparable between Norway and the US). Canon---and I believe Nikon as well---now are producing digital backs for their standard lines of autofocus SLRs. The 6.3 megapixel Canon, which accepts all Canon EF lenses, sells for $899 according to the Samy's Camera catalog I received last week. Canon makes another digital autofocus SLR ("call for price, " which means it's probably >>$900). The major difference seems to be that with the more expensive one, you get an LCD monitor. Were I to buy one today, it would be the first one, which seems to have more capability to use manual override. At any rate, googling on Canon will probably provide you enough information to become totally confused. Another information source is: http://www.imaging-resource.com/INDEX.HTM Happy hunting. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 08:21:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPELqXc018356 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 08:21:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F6792@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 16:15:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 603027 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 16:15:15 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAOLF7t23719 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 16:15:08 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-184.gwi.net [216.195.152.184]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAOLF3At074731; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 16:15:05 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031124160053.00b4ad48@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 16:05:58 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Digital camera - or IMFTATL In-Reply-To: <200311242027.hAOKRrt14982@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:27 PM 11/24/2003 -0500, mem wrote: >This is the model Canon markets in the United States as the EOS Digital >Rebel. There is some limitation on which of the EF lenses it accepts, but >that's a minor thing. With a modest 18-55mm lens, it will squeeze into a >$1,000 budgt (at U.S. prices). It is a very nice camera. It has the >comfortable--to me--feel and function of a traditional SLR, with both >automatic and manual modes. The sensor is the same as that in the more >expensive model. > >I bought one of these (a 10D) a couple of weeks ago, and I absolutely love >it. I now rather regret the time and money I spent going through a couple >of consumer-level Nikons (a Coolpix 950 and a Coolpix 5000). There is a >good argument to be made, I suppose, for not confining digital cameras to >the old form factors of the past, but for me, picking up the Canon digital >SLR was akin to a joyous homecoming. > >Anyway, the Canons definitely deserve a look if you want a digital camera >in an SLR package. You are leading me into temptation. The digital SLR route is definitely my inclination. Unfortunately all of my old Canon FD lenses become orphans if I go that way, I guess. In addition to the 18-55 or a reasonable facsimile, I would want the 75-300 or thereabouts---and that gets into somewhat heavier coin. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 08:21:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPELqXd018356 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 08:21:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F7077@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 22:51:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 623106 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 22:51:09 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAP3p9t06013 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 22:51:09 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 18:32:08 PST Message-ID: <20031125023208.7641.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 18:32:08 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: It's Time To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <619424250.1069703143@TWild.uri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Terry Wild wrote: > > I see Alan hasn't had time to respond to this yet. > Will is not a bad > speller, B average. He just got tripped up by > procedure last week. They > had to choose their spelling words and later in the > week staple a copy into > their reading journal. Will didn't do this, so on > Friday, there were no > spelling words to ask him, thus the 0. > > Terry It is therefore a false result. I had it in mind that in order to get a zero, one would almost have to REFUSE to spell the words. I now see that Will has no problem with words. It is stapling a journal with which he has a problem, and who can blame him? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 08:21:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPELqXd018355 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 08:21:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F6D7E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:19:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 617527 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:19:56 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAP1Jut24143 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:19:56 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2003112501195001400qpoote> (Authid: adamh1); Tue, 25 Nov 2003 01:19:50 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:19:49 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Speaking of New Haven, I've never had New Haven pizza. Is it as > good as it's supposed to be? I had Pepe's pizza once with Emily. It was tasty. Thin crisp crust and ultra-hot toppings which burnt the roof of my mouth. :( I miss pizza. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 08:21:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPELqXe018354 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 08:21:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F7A4B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 8:26:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 646648 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 08:26:47 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAPDQlF06212 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 08:26:47 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.165.74]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031125132642.IJSC1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 08:26:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC35893.D5C3C9F@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:26:43 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Webcam Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU After I reported yesterday that the webcam was showing a moonscape, I noticed that it gradually got back to normal. I suspected then and am convinced now that the problem is sucky winter. It gets frosty: http://www.ie.msstate.edu/netcam/netcam.htm -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 08:21:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPELqXe018355 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 08:21:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F7AA2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 8:41:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 647381 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 08:41:13 -0500 Received: from fe1.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAPDfDF08169 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 08:41:13 -0500 Received: from [136.167.88.181] (HELO bc.edu) by fe1.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 38304764 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 08:41:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC35BF9.7040203@bc.edu> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 08:41:13 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Webcam References: <3FC35893.D5C3C9F@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <3FC35893.D5C3C9F@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: >After I reported yesterday that the webcam was showing a moonscape, I >noticed that it gradually got back to normal. I suspected then and am >convinced now that the problem is sucky winter. It gets frosty: > >http://www.ie.msstate.edu/netcam/netcam.htm > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > It does seem to be temperamental. Despite the three-second counter on the lower part of the screen, it does not seem to refresh for minutes at a time on occasion. I think you are right. It is just like you. It thrives on warm sunny weather and when that is not available, it wants to cocoon! Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 08:21:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPELqXc018353 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 08:21:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F5AB6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:10:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 571254 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:10:54 -0500 Received: from mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAOFAs319761 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:10:54 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HOV00M533I5IY@mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:10:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.71] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:06:49 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:06:49 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Petsmart To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <11229a10fe45.10fe4511229a@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > now. They are doing fine. The TV was left on for them, tuned to > CNN, so > that they can "hear a human voice and keep up with the news." > Yeah, right. Laszlo watches the Weather Channel every day. He definitely reacts to TV -- barking dogs and ringing bells get him very excited. As do Devils goals, but that might be more in response to the strange dance done by the otherwise normal Man Person. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 08:21:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPELqXc018355 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 08:21:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F5AF2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:19:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 571908 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:19:06 -0500 Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAOFJ5321246 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:19:06 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HOV00IWL3VT98@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:19:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.71] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:15:01 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:15:01 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I hear Jane Siberry on WFUV periodically. Always liked her music. Saw Los Lonely Boys and Robert Randolph at Roseland this weekend. AWESOME. They opened and then RR played and then I saw Henry strapping on his guitar and they all came out and played together to the only two RR songs I even know. This was great for them -- a big audience full of blues fans. People were raving. I haven't checked the papers yet, but I hope they get a review (which would, of course, be positive). Speaking of New Haven, I've never had New Haven pizza. Is it as good as it's supposed to be? Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: Adam Hartfield Date: Saturday, November 22, 2003 9:53 pm Subject: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation > So I went to see Jane Siberry Thursday night on a whim and a vague > recommendation, loved her music, and went again on Friday night in New > Haven. Tried to get ahold of Emily but no luck. Consequently, > there were 400 > unread Words-L messages in my mailbox that I just deleted. (But I > did a > vanity search and saw Rashmi's cutting through the chase.) > > If Jane's going to be near you, go see her. > http://www.sheeba.ca/tour.php . > > --Adam > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 08:21:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPELqXd018353 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 08:21:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F6FF5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 22:32:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 622404 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 22:32:18 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAP3WHt04237 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 22:32:17 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 18:23:31 PST Message-ID: <20031125022331.21340.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 18:23:31 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Probably Won't Move to Belfast To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FC29110.960EE429@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: I'm not into > women's groups. I like > the Dem Wom group because we do lots and lots of > useful stuff to help > candidates, etc. We are an excellent work group. > But tonight's meeting > isn't about working for candidates or anything else > useful. What has become of Ms. Blackmon? Do you think she'll ever take another shot, or did that one miscalculation destine her to political oblivion? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 08:21:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPELqXd018354 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 08:21:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F6CD5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 19:45:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 616160 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 19:45:48 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAP0jmt19930 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 19:45:48 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAP0jl8b025315 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 19:45:47 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAP0jlfC024891 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 19:45:47 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 19:45:43 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's Time Message-ID: <619424250.1069703143@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <20031122224236.86915.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031122224236.86915.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --On Saturday, November 22, 2003 2:42 PM -0800 Lynne Weber wrote: > > I really am curious, now. Did he refuse to > participate in the spelling test? I mean, is getting > "0" some form of rebellion? Or does William just not > care for words? > > __________________________________ I see Alan hasn't had time to respond to this yet. Will is not a bad speller, B average. He just got tripped up by procedure last week. They had to choose their spelling words and later in the week staple a copy into their reading journal. Will didn't do this, so on Friday, there were no spelling words to ask him, thus the 0. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 08:39:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPEdOXc018514 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 08:39:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A59E8E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 9:39:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 651163 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 09:39:38 -0500 Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAPEdcF16857 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 09:39:38 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HOW00JHRWPXAP@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 09:39:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.71] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Tue, 25 Nov 2003 09:35:17 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 09:35:17 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <138b1313c5b3.13c5b3138b13@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Karen Kay > On Monday, November 24, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: > > Speaking of New Haven, I've never had New Haven pizza. Is it as > good as it's supposed to be? > > I think so, but I don't like NYC pizza. WHAT?!?! I've never heard anyone say that before. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 08:43:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPEhXXc018584 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 08:43:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A59E87@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 9:43:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 651356 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 09:43:40 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAPEhdF17290 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 09:43:39 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 15:45:46 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XLQ2N3X7; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 15:45:37 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031125154111.0273ca38@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 15:43:26 +0100 Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: <138b1313c5b3.13c5b3138b13@optonline.net> References: <138b1313c5b3.13c5b3138b13@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 09:35 25.11.2003 -0500 skrev Marie Ascher: >From: Karen Kay >> On Monday, November 24, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: >> > Speaking of New Haven, I've never had New Haven pizza. Is it as >> good as it's supposed to be? >> >> I think so, but I don't like NYC pizza. > >WHAT?!?! > >I've never heard anyone say that before. I don't think I have ever had NYC pizza - but I have had very good New Haven pizza. Which reminds me of my rather waspy (even if he was Norwegian) uncle who moved to New Haven in the late 1920ies: he didn't eat broccolli (as others also don't) and called it "Italian cabbage". Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 08:46:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPEk3Xc018625 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 08:46:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A59EAD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 9:46:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 651504 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 09:46:17 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAPEkHF17639 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 09:46:17 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 05:49:33 PST Message-ID: <20031125134933.40625.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 05:49:33 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: It's Time To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200311251154.hAPBsJt11945@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > Certainly, why spare William or Ana any > embarrassment? We merely want to spare them all the bother of planning trivial details, such as type of ceremony, guest list, reception arrangements, menu, wedding party garb, honeymoon itinerary, etc. In the years following this momentous event, they will be grateful for our thoughtfulness. This plan also has the advantage of giving the respective families ample time in which to accrue the significant monies that will be involved. If Ana has any objections, she can ride off into the sunset. If Will has any objections, he can spell them out. :-] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 09:13:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPFDaXc018897 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 09:13:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A59FF2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:13:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 654813 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:13:49 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAPFDnF24881 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:13:49 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAPFDjiM014450 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 09:13:47 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 09:15:21 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <881294387.20031125091521@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: <138b1313c5b3.13c5b3138b13@optonline.net> References: <138b1313c5b3.13c5b3138b13@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, November 25, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: > From: Karen Kay >> On Monday, November 24, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: >> > Speaking of New Haven, I've never had New Haven pizza. Is it as >> good as it's supposed to be? >> >> I think so, but I don't like NYC pizza. > WHAT?!?! > I've never heard anyone say that before. I think it's because of where you live. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 09:32:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPFWpXc019151 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 09:32:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5A08E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:33:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 656440 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:33:04 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAPFX4F28445 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:33:04 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 05:55:12 PST Message-ID: <20031125135512.51088.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 05:55:12 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Webcam To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FC35893.D5C3C9F@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > After I reported yesterday that the webcam was > showing a moonscape, I > noticed that it gradually got back to normal. I > suspected then and am > convinced now that the problem is sucky winter. It > gets frosty: At this moment, the image seems slightly opaque. There is something indistinguishable in the foreground. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 09:39:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPFdpXc019215 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 09:39:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5A0FF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:40:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 657546 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:40:04 -0500 Received: from fe2.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAPFe4F29560 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:40:04 -0500 Received: from [136.167.88.181] (HELO bc.edu) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 35701848 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:40:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC377D4.2000506@bc.edu> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:40:04 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Webcam References: <20031125135512.51088.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031125135512.51088.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: >At this moment, the image seems slightly opaque. >There is something indistinguishable in the foreground. > > > Yes, that is the same "moonscape" that Natalie reported yesterday. I think that it is a glaze of ice over the lens. As the day warms, the glaze slides off. It certainly makes it difficult to conduct White Dog surveillance :-( Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 10:12:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPGCFXc019667 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:12:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5A25A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:12:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 660621 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:12:28 -0500 Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAPGCSF02525 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:12:28 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HOX00MV610LR9@mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:12:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.73] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:08:19 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:08:19 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <17abc2181633.18163317abc2@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > combined with the Santa Fe lo these many years ago. On it, > Bookrat inked in his monumental route from Bay Area to Okoboji to > New England to Lexington. (What year was that?) 1997 if I'm not mistaken. He made a stop in Brooklyn on our way to the Philadelphia Folk Festival. Stuff like this > one dares not discard. And what did he name that homebrew -- > Phatic Drivel Ale? Wasn't it a pilsner? Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 10:37:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPGbFXc019931 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:37:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5A32E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:37:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 662449 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:37:28 -0500 Received: from gra-smtp2-sun.choiceone.net (gra-smtp2-sun.choiceone.net [216.47.224.12]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAPGbRY07124 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:37:28 -0500 Received: (qmail 3925 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2003 16:37:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mx003.choiceone.net) (64.65.215.110) by gra-smtp2-sun.choiceone.net with SMTP; 25 Nov 2003 16:37:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 11265 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2003 16:37:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tjl.adcinternal.com) (216.153.232.27) by mx003.choiceone.net with SMTP; 25 Nov 2003 16:37:26 -0000 Received: from kiva.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tjl.adcinternal.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 99D1E56313 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:37:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:37:24 -0500 From: Tom Lee To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dusty Message-Id: <20031125113724.38532b45.flint@kiva.net> In-Reply-To: <3FC34575.83C3EA6D@maynor.net> References: <4.2.2.20031124181917.00a305e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FC2CD3B.EAED1291@maynor.net> <20031124231828.4ae71fd9.flint@kiva.net> <3FC34575.83C3EA6D@maynor.net> Organization: Lamplighter Enterprises X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.7 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i586-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This is an archive of SCA email messages from 1994. But I think that's her. Look at the email address, and the Barbarian Wench moniker. Now we need to Google for Amber the Restless, though she says she's researching another persona. (Googling for Amber the Restless produced nothing additional.) Still, perhaps we can find her via the SCA. I know someone who was in the SCA in Alaska until he moved here. He might know who to ask. -- Take care, Tom Lee Easily obsessed, I guess On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 06:05:09 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Tom Lee wrote: > > > > Wow, I remember Dusty ... she was really cool. > > You'd think it would be easy to find her on the web, but googling for > '"dusty deal" alaska' produced only this: > > http://www.florilegium.org/files/PERFORMANCE-ARTS/bardic-msg.text > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 10:43:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPGhmXc020030 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:43:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5A3A5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:44:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 663584 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:44:01 -0500 Received: from gra-smtp2-sun.choiceone.net (gra-smtp2-sun.choiceone.net [216.47.224.12]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAPGi1Y08616 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:44:01 -0500 Received: (qmail 6648 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2003 16:44:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO webmail002.choiceone.net) (64.65.215.107) by gra-smtp2-sun.choiceone.net with SMTP; 25 Nov 2003 16:44:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 10921 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2003 16:44:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tjl.adcinternal.com) (216.153.232.27) by webmail002.choiceone.net with SMTP; 25 Nov 2003 16:44:00 -0000 Received: from kiva.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tjl.adcinternal.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A3D9456313 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:43:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:43:59 -0500 From: Tom Lee To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dusty Message-Id: <20031125114359.07c3ce38.flint@kiva.net> In-Reply-To: <3FC34BCD.1070601@bc.edu> References: <4.2.2.20031124181917.00a305e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FC2CD3B.EAED1291@maynor.net> <20031124231828.4ae71fd9.flint@kiva.net> <3FC34575.83C3EA6D@maynor.net> <3FC34BCD.1070601@bc.edu> Organization: Lamplighter Enterprises X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.7 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i586-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU And the mydeardiary.com entry mentions that she was living near Pagosa Springs, Colorado at the time, so ... googling for '"dusty deal" pagosa' got me this: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/illuminati/message/2479?source=1 This has got to be her. She had a web page at the time, which seems to have gone away since. But I have my suspicions, after googling for "barbarianwench" run together ... http://www.leathercomau.com/leather_supply/Leather_Craft_tools_Buckles_rivets_zippers_industry/000088.html http://www.digitalcity.com/denver/bestcoffeehouses/main.adp?&ngb_notify=1&ngb_start=30 Both of these date to early 2003, so I believe she may be in the Denver area. I'm not giving up yet. -- Take care, Tom Lee I do have to run and come back, though On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:32:13 -0500, Rita Leonard wrote: > But googling for "Barbarian Wench" yields this: > > http://www.mydeardiary.com/cgi-bin/diary.cgi?p=1&ak=8623 > > I can't remember if Dusty had a son. If so, and if he was seven or > eight when she was active on this list, the diarist above could be she. > > Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 11:31:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPHVAXc020580 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:31:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5A5AD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:31:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 668328 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:31:23 -0500 Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAPHVNY17704 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:31:23 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HOX00MMO4O7N2@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:31:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.73] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:27:17 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:27:17 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Petsmart To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <187972188c53.188c53187972@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > This isn't a tv, but have you tried getting a laser pointer (an > inexpensiveone will do) and displayed it on the floor? So far, > all of the cats & dogs > I've seen exposed to the red dot on the floor go nuts - and it > continues as > that red dot moves around on the floor. I haven't tried it, but I > wonder if > a pet wouldn't come in at night whether that red dot might help > direct them > to the door. I'll report back. I own a laser pointer. And I have a dog who has a new habit of sitting like a perfect statue when I'm calling him inside. What I do is give up and close the door, at which he decides it's time to come up. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 11:40:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPHeTXc020697 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:40:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5A5F2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:40:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 669034 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:40:42 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAPHefY19351 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:40:41 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAPHebiM015963 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:40:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:42:14 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <4110383122.20031125114214@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Petsmart In-Reply-To: <187972188c53.188c53187972@optonline.net> References: <187972188c53.188c53187972@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, November 25, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: > I'll report back. I own a laser pointer. And I have a dog who has a > new habit of sitting like a perfect statue when I'm calling him > inside. What I do is give up and close the door, at which he decides > it's time to come up. When Burl does this, I talk to her, and I tell her what the consequences are, including the starving-kitty-frozen-in-the-snow scenario. That usually works. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 11:58:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPHwHXc020942 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:58:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5A687@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:58:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 670389 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:58:30 -0500 Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAPHwUY22325 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:58:30 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HOX00BH74I5AC@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:27:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.73] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:23:37 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:23:37 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <181f1418005c.18005c181f14@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I don't think I have ever had NYC pizza - but I have had very good > New Haven pizza. Next time you are in NYC -- John's Pizza, one large, sausage and garlic. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 14:28:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPKSqXc023088 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 14:28:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5AB99@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 15:29:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 682526 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 15:29:03 -0500 Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAPKT0Y16454 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 15:29:00 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HOX00H4DCWBO9@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 15:29:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.71] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Tue, 25 Nov 2003 15:24:54 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 15:24:54 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: new refrigerator To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <18ee221907ca.1907ca18ee22@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I can attest to that. For some reason it's all the rage now to bash > tap water. Everyone's into drinking only bottled or filtered water. > I don't get it - we have very safe drinking water here and it's > not considered cool to drink it. I use a Brita filter. Mostly because I like it extra cold so I like a pitcher in the fridge and a filter can't hurt. Even the best water systems have the occasional coliform infraction. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 14:37:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPKbcXc023209 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 14:37:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5AC11@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 15:37:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 683317 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 15:37:49 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAPKbnY17877 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 15:37:49 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 15:37:43 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77822@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Petsmart Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 15:37:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Marie Ascher [mailto:14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET] > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 12:27 PM > > This isn't a tv, but have you tried getting a laser pointer (an > > inexpensiveone will do) and displayed it on the floor? So far, > > all of the cats & dogs > > I've seen exposed to the red dot on the floor go nuts - and it > > continues as > > that red dot moves around on the floor. I haven't tried it, but I > > wonder if > > a pet wouldn't come in at night whether that red dot might help > > direct them > > to the door. > > I'll report back. I own a laser pointer. And I have a dog who > has a new habit of sitting like a perfect statue when I'm > calling him inside. What I do is give up and close the door, > at which he decides it's time to come up. There's also the Dog vs. Cat IQ test. Put masking tape on the pads of all four feed of both animals and put them back on the floor. The dog will flail their limbs for a few seconds then raise paw to their face and pull the tape off. [most] Cats will continue to walk around trying to shake the tape off until it becomes unfunny and you have to remove the tape for them. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 14:41:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPKfEXc023255 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 14:41:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5AC11@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 15:41:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 683548 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 15:41:25 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAPKfPY18527 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 15:41:25 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-40.gwi.net [216.195.157.40]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAPKfNAr081441 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 15:41:24 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031125154117.00b52c38@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 15:41:50 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Petsmart In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77822@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >There's also the Dog vs. Cat IQ test. Put masking tape on the pads of all >four feed of both animals and put them back on the floor. The dog will >flail their limbs for a few seconds then raise paw to their face and pull >the tape off. [most] Cats will continue to walk around trying to shake the >tape off until it becomes unfunny and you have to remove the tape for them. From this I would conclude that the cat has the higher IQ. The cat makes the human do the work. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 15:02:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPL2pXc023533 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 15:02:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5ACBD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:03:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 685162 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:03:02 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAPL32Y22112 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:03:02 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:02:57 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77823@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: wicked cold tonight Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:02:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Carolyn Ostrander [mailto:clostran@SYR.EDU] > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 6:52 AM > It's been fun trying to convert from F to C in our heads with > the German > houseguest to talk abt the weather! I've posted this before.... 30 is hot 20 is nice 10 is cold 0 is ice instead of worrying about when to add numbers & multiply, divide: __________________________________ "The Plus/Minus 40 Method" This is algebraically equivalent to the method most are taught in school (e.g., when to add, when to subtract, multiply, divide, etc.) C = (F + 40) * 5 / 9 - 40 F = (C + 40) * 9 / 5 - 40 so it becomes "Add 40, multiply, subtract 40". And the easies way to remember the fraction is, "The direction you're going makes the numbers bigger or smaller?" If you are going from F to C, F's multiplier is 5/9. Because C is smaller than F, moving from C to F means using 9/5. The simple examples: -40C <=> -40F (the only temperature where both numbers are the same) F = ((C+40) * 9 / 5) - 40 = ( 0 ) * 9 / 5) - 40 = ( 0 ) - 40 F = -40 C = ((F+40) * 5 / 9 - 40 = ( 0 ) * 5 / 9) - 40 = ( 0 ) -40 C = -40 F->C Boiling Temperature: ------------------------- F = 212 = 212 + 40 = 252 = 252 * 5 / 9 = 252 * 5 = 1260 = 1260 / 9 = 140 F = 100C C->F Freezing Temperature: -------------------------- C = 0 = + 40 = 40 = 40 * 9 = 360 / 5 = 72 - 40 C = 32 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 15:03:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPL3oXc023553 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 15:03:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5ACC0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:04:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 685196 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:04:01 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAPL41Y22231 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:04:01 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:03:56 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77824@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Petsmart Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:03:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU yeah, but you can make the cat do a lot more work trying to get it off while you read for three or four hours, so that's not really a fair comparison. > -----Original Message----- > From: bonniev [mailto:bonniev@GWI.NET] > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 3:42 PM > To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Subject: Re: Petsmart > > > >There's also the Dog vs. Cat IQ test. Put masking tape on > the pads of all > >four feed of both animals and put them back on the floor. > The dog will > >flail their limbs for a few seconds then raise paw to their > face and pull > >the tape off. [most] Cats will continue to walk around > trying to shake the > >tape off until it becomes unfunny and you have to remove the > tape for them. > > From this I would conclude that the cat has the higher IQ. > The cat makes > the human do the work. > > > bonnie > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 16:46:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPMkIXc024996 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:46:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5B046@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:46:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 692970 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:46:28 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAPMkSY05364 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:46:28 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.48]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031125224623.FUTM1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:46:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC3DB95.E7CDA6A@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:45:41 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Hot Tamales and Blood Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Since many of you enjoy food threads and medical threads, you may enjoy the story of my adventure today. And do any of you know if/why it's not good to eat hot tamales immediately before giving blood? Being lazy, I'll quote what I wrote a little while ago to some friends in Japan who want me to keep them informed about the condition of the person who was in the car wreck and is in the hospital in Tupelo. The "I have no more news" means news on Linda since I wrote them last. > I have no more news. I went by the office this morning but saw only > Carlene, and she said she hadn't heard anything since the weekend. I > had planned on going to Tupelo this afternoon but had a strange > experience when giving blood -- one that the blood-suckers said was not > at all unusual and nothing to worry about, though I found it exceedingly > odd since I've been giving blood every few months for years and have > never had any reaction whatsoever, even though I totally ignore their > advice about drinking lots of fluids and eating a good meal and > whatever. I just go about my business and give the matter no thought. > Today I was sitting there giving blood and talking to Eddie of the > Wellness Connection, who was across the aisle from me. About the time I > finished, I realized that I was feeling kind of faint and queasy and was > sweating. The blood-suckers, as I said, seemed totally used to such a > reaction, but I sure wasn't! They put a couple of ice packs on me, > tilted the cot thing in a different way, and told me to uncross my > ankles. Then one of them brought me some orange juice. I gradually got > ok, though still feel a bit weird. (They asked me what I had eaten > today, and I said I had eaten hot tamales just before coming. They > laughed and seemed to think that might have been a factor, though I > don't know why. I had gone to Walmart to buy groceries after leaving > campus, had bought a package of two fat hot tamales on a whim, came home > and stuck them in the microwave, ate them, and then headed on to the > blood van, which I would have gone to first thing this morning except > they don't ever get here from Meridian until about 11:30.) Remind me in > the future not to eat hot tamales right before giving blood! Anyway, > one of them asked me there near the end where I was going when I left. > I said I had been planning on going to Tupelo but had changed my plan > and was going to go home for a while. He nodded and said that was a > good change of plans. > > That story is way too long! The end of it is that I did not go to > Tupelo today as planned but am going to try to do so tomorrow. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 16:49:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPMnLTx025042 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:49:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5B056@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:49:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 693112 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:49:31 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAPMnQY05664 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:49:26 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.48]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031125224921.FWIZ1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:49:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC3DC6E.C50C6FD7@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:49:18 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Webcam References: <3FC35893.D5C3C9F@maynor.net> <3FC35BF9.7040203@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: > It does seem to be temperamental. Despite the three-second counter on > the lower part of the screen, it does not seem to refresh for minutes at > a time on occasion. I think you are right. It is just like you. It > thrives on warm sunny weather and when that is not available, it wants > to cocoon! That seems to be the case. While on campus this morning I tried to locate the camera -- tried to see where it was hanging. But I didn't see it. If I had alerted y'all to look at it at that moment, I would've waved. But it was a sudden impulse because the sunshine was pleasant and because I was thinking about the webcam, having just seen TWD snoozing beside the Union (not in view of the camera). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 16:51:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPMpGTx025073 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:51:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5B048@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:51:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 693235 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:51:26 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAPMpQY05890 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:51:26 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.48]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031125225114.FXEN1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:51:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC3DCE3.B6BF12ED@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:51:15 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: <138b1313c5b3.13c5b3138b13@optonline.net> <6.0.0.22.0.20031125154111.0273ca38@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen Ore wrote: > I don't think I have ever had NYC pizza - but I have had very good New Haven pizza. Do NYC and NH have only one kind of pizza (each)? If I've eaten pizza in NYC (which I have), does that mean I've eaten NYC pizza? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 17:00:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPN04Tx025241 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:00:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5B09B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:00:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 693758 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:00:14 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAPN0EY06856 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:00:14 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.48]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031125230003.GBJG1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:00:03 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC3DE80.148523D0@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:58:08 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dusty References: <4.2.2.20031124181917.00a305e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FC2CD3B.EAED1291@maynor.net> <20031124231828.4ae71fd9.flint@kiva.net> <3FC34575.83C3EA6D@maynor.net> <3FC34BCD.1070601@bc.edu> <20031125114359.07c3ce38.flint@kiva.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Keep up the good work, LampLighter! Tom Lee wrote: > > And the mydeardiary.com entry mentions that she was living near Pagosa Springs, > Colorado at the time, so ... googling for '"dusty deal" pagosa' got me this: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/illuminati/message/2479?source=1 > > This has got to be her. She had a web page at the time, which seems to have > gone away since. > > But I have my suspicions, after googling for "barbarianwench" run together ... > > http://www.leathercomau.com/leather_supply/Leather_Craft_tools_Buckles_rivets_zippers_industry/000088.html > > http://www.digitalcity.com/denver/bestcoffeehouses/main.adp?&ngb_notify=1&ngb_start=30 > > Both of these date to early 2003, so I believe she may be in the Denver area. > I'm not giving up yet. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 17:00:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPN0ATx025243 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:00:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F8E00@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:00:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 693790 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:00:19 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAPN0JY06872 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:00:19 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.48]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031125225948.GAWM1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:59:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC3DE3D.6D104D11@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:57:01 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Webcam References: <20031125135512.51088.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <3FC377D4.2000506@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: > Yes, that is the same "moonscape" that Natalie reported yesterday. I > think that it is a glaze of ice over the lens. As the day warms, the > glaze slides off. It certainly makes it difficult to conduct White Dog > surveillance :-( Yes. I'm trying to think who I know in the IE Dept. I should tell them to find a solution. Wait -- I know the Dept Head pretty well. I just remembered that. And I know at least one other person in that dept pretty well also. And their tech assistant once set up some kind of computer apparatus for me to use while giving a campus talk on how to use bitnet. I can't remember now why that dept was involved with my talk, which was something the Computing Center had asked me to do, iirc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 17:00:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPN0CTx025248 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:00:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5B08E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:00:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 693794 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:00:22 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAPN0MY06876 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:00:22 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.48]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031125230013.GBNW1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:00:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC3DEDC.537EE067@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:59:40 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: <181f1418005c.18005c181f14@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > Next time you are in NYC -- John's Pizza, one large, sausage and garlic. Is there just one John's, or is it a chain? Do I (and I realize the above was addressed to Espen, not to me) have to get sausage? I hate sausage on pizzas. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 17:09:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPN9tTx025376 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:09:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5B0D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:10:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 694457 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:10:05 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAPNA5Y08378 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:10:05 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F8E41@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:10:05 -0500 Message-Id: <200311252310.hAPNA5Y08378@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:10:05 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: wicked cold tonight To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 06:05:54 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> It's been fun trying to convert from F to C in our heads with the German >> houseguest to talk abt the weather! > >So how are things going with the German houseguest? > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Well. He's intelligent, interesting, good-mannered, and adaptable. And he clearly adores my daughter. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 17:10:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPNA1Tx025381 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:10:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5B0E8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:10:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 694461 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:10:11 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAPNABY08395 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:10:11 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:10:05 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77827@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Hot Tamales and Blood Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:10:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 5:46 PM > Since many of you enjoy food threads and medical threads, you > may enjoy > the story of my adventure today. And do any of you know > if/why it's not > good to eat hot tamales immediately before giving blood? > > Being lazy, I'll quote what I wrote a little while ago to some friends > in Japan who want me to keep them informed about the condition of the > person who was in the car wreck and is in the hospital in Tupelo. The > "I have no more news" means news on Linda since I wrote them last. > > > I have no more news. I went by the office this morning but saw only > > Carlene, and she said she hadn't heard anything since the > weekend. I > > had planned on going to Tupelo this afternoon but had a strange > > experience when giving blood -- one that the blood-suckers > said was not Interesting story! When I first read blood-suckers, I thought you were referring to leeches. They've got several in the Administrative Pharmacy where Holly works. They've been pretty regular use for some time now. I need some type of "He's okay" card to carry with me to the bloodmobile when it comes here. When they ask which meds I'm taking, I list them (it's roughly a dozen) and under "Why", I write "pain control medication". So they grab a PDR and look a couple of the meds, come back and ask, "So seriously, why are you taking them?" "Pain control." Then she gets one of the other nurses, and we go again. Then it's multiple calls to the office and chatting with a Dr. and the "why?"/"Pain Control" waltz until they realize I'm not kidding. In goes the needle they mark it for special use - so people who are sensitive to some of the meds don't receive it. I'm O+, so they don't want to lose the blood at all. Everyone else in the building hates it when I go early - it takes about thirty minutes to process me to get the needle in and the line is single-threaded - no one else can give until they get me taken care of. I get my blood in but a coworker across the aisle can't give because he did his two year missionary stint for the Church of the LDS in London sometime in the 80s. My veins at my elbow distend, but down, not up. Some technicians understand this outright, others I need to tell, still others don't undertand when I tell them. There was an inexperienced one when I was in high school who didn't know how to handle my veins and was turning me into a pin cushion. Her supervisor said, "Keep trying, you'll get it." (egads) I said, "one more try. Then either I do it or I'm leaving." She missed. They brought a supervisor in and told her, "He says he's doing it or he's walking out." "What's his type?" "O positive". "Think you can do it to yourself?" "Yes. I learned how to start IVs on myself between ambulance runs." "Then let him do it." The girl asked if she could watch - I let her - I figured it might help someone else in the future. Heck my nieces - 6, 8, 10, 12 love to watch when I do my regular injections (subQ and IM) - they crowd me. One of them (Imitrex) is a self-firing, spring-loaded syringe and I've let a couple of them do that so far - they really can't mess that up - it's just push the button and it does the rest. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 17:15:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPNFNTx025498 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:15:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5B0FC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:15:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 694634 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:15:33 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAPNFXY08873 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:15:33 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F8E20@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:15:33 -0500 Message-Id: <200311252315.hAPNFXY08873@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:15:33 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Dusty To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:32:13 -0500, Rita Leonard wrote: >Natalie Maynor wrote: > >>You'd think it would be easy to find her on the web, but googling for >>'"dusty deal" alaska' produced only this: >> >>http://www.florilegium.org/files/PERFORMANCE-ARTS/bardic-msg.text >> Naturally, a SCAdian! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 17:19:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPNJYTx025607 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:19:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5B0FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:19:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 694799 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:19:44 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAPNJiY09520 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:19:44 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F8E61@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:19:44 -0500 Message-Id: <200311252319.hAPNJiY09520@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:19:44 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: wicked cold tonight To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:02:48 -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: >> From: Carolyn Ostrander [mailto:clostran@SYR.EDU] >> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 6:52 AM > >> It's been fun trying to convert from F to C in our heads with >> the German >> houseguest to talk abt the weather! > >I've posted this before.... > > 30 is hot > 20 is nice > 10 is cold > 0 is ice > Yep, I know. However, in upstate NY, the discussion has to include 15 d F 25 d F and -20 d F and even -40 d F (winter nights in the North Country of the Adirondacks). clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 17:26:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPNQETx025697 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:26:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5B10A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:26:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 694890 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:26:17 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAPNQHY10124 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:26:17 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.48]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031125232612.FEKS1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:26:12 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC3E514.21D01221@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:26:12 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77827@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > I need some type of "He's okay" card to carry with me to the bloodmobile > when it comes here. When they ask which meds I'm taking, I list them (it's I was quite surprised and relieved today that we didn't have to spend the usual long time talking about places I've traveled in the past x number of years. Today when we got to that part, I said, "I've been tons of places, but I have been nowhere at all since the last time I gave blood, and the countries were considered ok then." I don't know whether it was good or bad, as in whether she was being derelict in her duty, that she didn't make me go through it all again -- that she declared me ok. > I'm O+, > so they don't want to lose the blood at all. I've got you beat. :-) I am O-, the truly universal donor, and on top of that I am cvt-negative, meaning that my blood is free of whatever that virus is that exists in some huge percent of the adult population. They put my blood on a special shelf to be used for new-borns. I feel that my blood is the most sought-after of all blood. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 17:26:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPNQrTx025709 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:26:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F8E3B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:27:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 694902 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:27:03 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAPNR2Y10216 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:27:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.48]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031125232657.FESI1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:26:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC3E542.4166AE78@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:26:58 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wicked cold tonight References: <200311252310.hAPNA5Y08378@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Well. He's intelligent, interesting, good-mannered, and adaptable. And he > clearly adores my daughter. I would say that sounds like a very good start! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 17:35:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPNZCTx025887 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:35:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5B13E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:35:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 695162 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:35:22 -0500 Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAPNZMY10958 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:35:22 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1cc.14d040de (3657) for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:35:05 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1cc.14d040de.2cf54129@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:35:05 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Webcam To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/25/2003 4:49:46 PM Central Standard Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << having just seen TWD snoozing beside the Union >> I wonder if he's getting enough to eat. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 17:36:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPNaBTx025913 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:36:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5B13F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:36:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 695174 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:36:21 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAPNaLY11046 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:36:21 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F8E8A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:36:21 -0500 Message-Id: <200311252336.hAPNaLY11046@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:36:21 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: wicked cold tonight To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:26:58 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> Well. He's intelligent, interesting, good-mannered, and adaptable. And he >> clearly adores my daughter. > >I would say that sounds like a very good start! > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Yeah. The other hand: she's 25; he's 32 - and he has a life and career in Germany. Also, they met at an SCA event in the woods of Bavaria (but I don't know if Amber the Restless was there - nor Shoshana!) clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 17:45:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPNjJTx026007 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:45:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5B17A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:45:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 695975 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:45:29 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAPNjTY12290 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:45:29 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.48]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031125234459.WULQ1873.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:44:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC3E97C.2FAD4A1E@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:45:00 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Friends in High Places Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I sent e-mail to the head of the IE Dept a little while ago and got a prompt reply: > Natalie, this is an unexpected problem. We hope our temporary fix of > having a fan blow on the window will solve the problem until we get back > from Thanksgiving. I am anxious to check tomorrow morning. Of course, > warmer wouldn't hurt. > > Hope things are back to normal soon. > > Have a Happy Thanksgiving. > > Larry -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 17:48:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPNm1Tx026043 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:48:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5B19D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:48:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 696076 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:48:11 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAPNmAY12609 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:48:10 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.48]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031125234805.WVUS1873.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:48:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC3EA36.821EC75E@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:48:06 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Webcam References: <1cc.14d040de.2cf54129@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > I wonder if he's getting enough to eat. I also have been worried about that, with the students gone. Offices will continue to be open through tomorrow, but then everything will close down until Monday. Then again, Thursday should not be a problem at all. The campus will be full of people because of that night's fb game. I think I read in the student newspaper that there will even be food vendors on the drillfield that day. That should be a good day to check the webcam for activity, including possible presence of TWD. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 17:49:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAPNneTx026068 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:49:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F8EEB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:49:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 696164 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:49:50 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAPNnnY12755 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:49:49 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.48]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031125234941.WWMD1873.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:49:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC3EA95.86498A71@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:49:41 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wicked cold tonight References: <200311252336.hAPNaLY11046@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Yeah. The other hand: she's 25; he's 32 - and he has a life and career in > Germany. Also, they met at an SCA event in the woods of Bavaria (but I don't > know if Amber the Restless was there - nor Shoshana!) It still sounds good to me, except for the problem of distance -- of having a daughter living that far away. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 18:36:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQ0ZxTx026826 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:36:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5B251@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:36:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 697986 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:36:09 -0500 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQ0a8Y17760 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:36:08 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.3c.383cea67 (4196) for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:35:53 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <3c.383cea67.2cf54f69@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:35:53 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Webcam To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/25/2003 5:48:54 PM Central Standard Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << That should be a good day to check the webcam for activity, including possible presence of TWD. >> I'll be home that day setting up the old computer and getting it ready for shipping to a friend of mine. I hope someone finds TWD and adopts him. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 18:37:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQ0bUTx026860 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:37:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5B265@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:37:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 698091 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:37:40 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQ0beY17983 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:37:40 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-40.gwi.net [216.195.157.40]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAQ0baAr024899 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:37:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031125193603.00bab5b0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:37:35 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: wicked cold tonight In-Reply-To: <200311252319.hAPNJiY09520@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-40 d F >(winter nights in the North Country of the Adirondacks). >clo And in Northern Wisconsin. That was the temp one February night when I was up there hoping for a Aurora sighting. At 9 a.m., breakfast time, it was still -16. We were surprised that the rental car started right up. But then we had to rock it out of a snow bank. Winter is so much more mild here in Unreal Maine. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 19:36:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQ1aMTx027230 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:36:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F8FC2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:50:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 698518 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:50:41 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQ0ofY19094 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:50:41 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-40.gwi.net [216.195.157.40]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAQ0obAt027763; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:50:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031125194438.00b4a878@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:50:31 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood In-Reply-To: <3FC3DB95.E7CDA6A@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:45 PM 11/25/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Since many of you enjoy food threads and medical threads, you may enjoy >the story of my adventure today. And do any of you know if/why it's not >good to eat hot tamales immediately before giving blood? My first thought is that anything fairly heavy (and in my experience, tamales are ) requires some time to process, during which a fair amount of blood is diverted to the mechanical and chemical digestive processes and thus unavailable elsewhere for things like keeping you conscious and functioning normally (the drowsiness after a big meal fits in the same category). Second, have you been eating decent meals lately? The reason I ask is that when we have blood drives here that are hosted by the college (COA), the college students seem to drop like flies when giving blood. Reason? They are skipping meals or are on severe vegan-type diets. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 19:36:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQ1aMTx027229 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:36:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F8FB6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:48:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 698102 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:48:00 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQ0c0Y18009 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:38:00 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAQ0b0wb005975 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:37:00 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:38:00 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: SSA Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I love getting SSA while still working. I get a couple of raises every year (you will get at least one, Natalie), and I also get one or two catch-up checks. I got a raise today and I will fet a catch-up check in December. They periodically calculate your monthly benefit based on what you have earned for the year and pay you the amount they should have been paying you (if they had known) and give you a raise. The first time that happened - last year - I thought it was a one-time thing. Now I realize that it will happen periodically so long as I am a wage-earner. It's a good season for raises and catch-up checks. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 19:36:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQ1aPTx027237 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:36:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5B266@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:46:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 698350 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:46:28 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQ0kSY18667 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:46:28 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.48]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031126004623.UUWX14203.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:46:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC3F7DF.C17FDA38@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:46:23 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood References: <3FC3DB95.E7CDA6A@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm wondering about something. The same person who didn't bother to ask me all the usual travel questions was the person who took the blood from the finger for the sink-or-swim test. I was surprised that she put the little glass that the blood drops into over on the other side of the computer, out of my vision. Normally they do that right in front of your eyes so that you can see what it does. I had warned her that mine sometimes floated and to do the drop test before wasting time on the questions. What I've been told about the sink-or-swim test is that it has nothing to do with the value of your blood but only has to do with how you'll feel -- that if it floats, you would feel bad after giving blood. I am not at all one to be skeptical of such procedures, and perhaps this thought I've been having is crazy. But could it be that my blood really didn't sink in that vial -- that she just pretended it had?? If it floated, would the symptoms I described have been what is meant by "it would make you feel bad"? (If this were the Red Cross, I would of course be skeptical. I know enough about their shenanigans to be quite skeptical. But it was not the RC. It was United Blood Services. The RC doesn't come here.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 19:36:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQ1aPTx027239 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:36:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5B2BC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:59:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 698905 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:59:07 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQ0x6Y20038 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:59:07 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-184-130.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.184.130]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAQ0x5GR008686 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:59:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FC3FA87.9070303@swbell.net> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:57:44 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood References: <3FC3DB95.E7CDA6A@maynor.net> <3FC3F7DF.C17FDA38@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I fainted the last time I gave blood. It was a strange feeling. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 19:36:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQ1aPTx027240 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:36:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5B30A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:29:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 699670 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:29:00 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQ1T0Y22083 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:29:00 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:28:54 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77828@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Survivor stuff Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:28:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Lynne Weber [mailto:lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 9:27 PM > --- bonniev wrote: > > Don't know. The article I read said it is not > > widely known who the 18 > > people who were chosen for Survivor All-Star are. > > It sure would seem odd > > though for Osten to be on it. He didn't even want > > to be on the one he was > > on. Maybe he was embarrassed by his behavior and > > didn't want to be on the > > Early Show. > > Would he really be welcome on the All-Star Show? > Didn't he kind of vote himself "off"? In view of > that, he hardly qualifies as a survivor(?). Who says he has to wear a white hat or be a "joiner" to be in the All-Star show? I would think the All-Star show would be composed of those who are most likely to create an interesting chemistry. We've seen what they looked like in edited format and the producers know what they look like for real during the game. Richard Hatch was the first winner. Is that in and of itself a reason to be on the All-Star show? I think not. (I've said the same about Tina - she slipped in under the radar to win but I don't think she was a memorable personality|character) The reason Richard Hatch would be included is he's openly gay (which is no big deal aside from his flaunting it, good or bad for the other contestants), he created the mold for alliances (his career obviously played a big role in this), although all subsequent alliances have been rather bland by comparison, and the day|episode he spent walking around the camp sans clothing. All-in-all, he was one of the first memorable characters and I think they've been hoping to find others who would be capable of doing such things on their own. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 19:36:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQ1aPU0027237 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:36:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5B2F8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:32:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 699765 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:32:20 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQ1WKY22432 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:32:20 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:32:15 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77829@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Hot Tamales and Blood Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:32:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Phil Paxton wrote: > > > I need some type of "He's okay" card to carry with me to > the bloodmobile > > when it comes here. When they ask which meds I'm taking, I > list them (it's > > I was quite surprised and relieved today that we didn't have to spend > the usual long time talking about places I've traveled in the past x > number of years. Today when we got to that part, I said, "I've been > tons of places, but I have been nowhere at all since the last time I > gave blood, and the countries were considered ok then." I don't know > whether it was good or bad, as in whether she was being > derelict in her > duty, that she didn't make me go through it all again -- that she > declared me ok. > > > I'm O+, > > so they don't want to lose the blood at all. > > I've got you beat. :-) I am O-, the truly universal donor, and on top > of that I am cvt-negative, meaning that my blood is free of whatever > that virus is that exists in some huge percent of the adult > population. > They put my blood on a special shelf to be used for new-borns. I feel > that my blood is the most sought-after of all blood. I didn't choose my blood type. I am, however, quite special in other ways which extend beyond use of blood. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 19:36:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQ1aMTx027228 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:36:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F8F78@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:45:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 698286 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:45:54 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQ0jsY18600 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:45:54 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAQ0jkiM027687 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:45:48 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:47:24 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1638266780.20031125184724@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: new refrigerator In-Reply-To: <18ee221907ca.1907ca18ee22@optonline.net> References: <18ee221907ca.1907ca18ee22@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, November 25, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: > I use a Brita filter. Mostly because I like it extra cold so I like > a pitcher in the fridge and a filter can't hurt. I used a Brita pitcher till I bought my own fridge. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 19:44:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQ1ibTx027420 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:44:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5B31E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:44:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 700127 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:44:43 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQ1ihY23307 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:44:43 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.48]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031126014438.IMVC1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:44:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC40586.8FBD3ABA@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:44:38 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Webcam References: <3c.383cea67.2cf54f69@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > I hope someone finds TWD and adopts him. Finding him is no problem. He's easily findable. The problem is in catching him. He bolts if anybody comes too close. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 19:48:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQ1mnTx027538 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:48:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5B331@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:48:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 700397 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:48:58 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQ1mwY23927 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:48:58 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.48]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031126014849.IOKD1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:48:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC40681.FB083D3E@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:48:49 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: SSA References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > I love getting SSA while still working. I get a couple of raises every > year (you will get at least one, Natalie), and I also get one or two It took me a while to figure out what you were talking about. I was thinking of SCA since we had just been talking about it. Also, I've never heard anybody else say getting "SSA." What does the A stand for? I thought SSA was Social Security Administration and that what one got was SS, not SSA. And why do you say I will get at least one? > It's a good season for raises and catch-up checks. I'll be getting my first thirteenth check next month. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 19:53:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQ1rvTx027622 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:53:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5B359@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:54:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 700556 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:54:06 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQ1s6Y24298 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:54:06 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.48]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031126015400.IQKG1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:54:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC407B9.E5BB551F@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:54:01 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031125194438.00b4a878@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > My first thought is that anything fairly heavy (and in my experience, > tamales are ) requires some time to process, during which a fair > amount of blood is diverted to the mechanical and chemical digestive > processes and thus unavailable elsewhere for things like keeping you > conscious and functioning normally (the drowsiness after a big meal fits in > the same category). This makes sense. And I was sitting there giving blood VERY soon after eating those tamales. I ate them, brushed my teeth, and hopped into my car for the less-than-five-minute drive to the hospital parking lot, where the blood-sucking van sits the last Tuesday of most months. Because the question-asker was nonchalant about the travel questions, I was through with that part and sitting there being sucked within a very short time. > Second, have you been eating decent meals lately? The reason I ask is that > when we have blood drives here that are hosted by the college (COA), the > college students seem to drop like flies when giving blood. Reason? They > are skipping meals or are on severe vegan-type diets. I thought that was what the sink-or-swim drop of blood was supposed to ascertain. I'm not sure that I've been eating decent meals. And I am again wondering why this person hid the vial behind the computer before dropping my blood into it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 19:55:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQ1tpTx027639 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:55:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5B342@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:56:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 700589 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:56:00 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQ1u0Y24406 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:56:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.48]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031126015555.IRDR1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:55:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC4082B.C68E8502@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:55:55 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood References: <3FC3DB95.E7CDA6A@maynor.net> <3FC3F7DF.C17FDA38@maynor.net> <3FC3FA87.9070303@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > > I fainted the last time I gave blood. It was a strange feeling. Had you ever had any hint of anything like that before? That's what's so surprising to me -- the fact that I have never felt anything at all during or after giving blood before. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 19:58:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQ1w9Tx027680 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:58:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5B356@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:58:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 700620 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:57:31 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQ1vVY24513 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:57:31 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.48]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031126015726.IRSG1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:57:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC40886.6A324FF6@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:57:26 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77829@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > > that my blood is the most sought-after of all blood. > > I didn't choose my blood type. I am, however, quite special in other ways > which extend beyond use of blood. I'm glad I thought to call up God before my birth and ask to have Very Special Blood. Wish I'd added that naturally curly hair would be nice also. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 19:59:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQ1wtTx027690 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:59:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5B357@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:59:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 700651 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:59:03 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQ1x3Y24594 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:59:03 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-184-130.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.184.130]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAQ1wQpe001217 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:58:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FC4088F.10109@swbell.net> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:57:35 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood References: <3FC3DB95.E7CDA6A@maynor.net> <3FC3F7DF.C17FDA38@maynor.net> <3FC3FA87.9070303@swbell.net> <3FC4082B.C68E8502@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Rita Chapman wrote: > >>I fainted the last time I gave blood. It was a strange feeling. >> > > Had you ever had any hint of anything like that before? That's what's > so surprising to me -- the fact that I have never felt anything at all > during or after giving blood before. Nope, never. I was also pretty tired for a couple days after. It might have been my busy schedule, or maybe my blood floated, but was at minimal iron levels. Dunno. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 20:20:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQ2KPTx028075 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:20:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5B376@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:20:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 701099 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:20:34 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQ2KGY26151 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:20:16 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.48]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031126022011.JBKY1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:20:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC40DDB.6F9EC3E@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:20:11 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood References: <3FC3DB95.E7CDA6A@maynor.net> <3FC3F7DF.C17FDA38@maynor.net> <3FC3FA87.9070303@swbell.net> <3FC4082B.C68E8502@maynor.net> <3FC4088F.10109@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > Nope, never. I was also pretty tired for a couple days > after. It might have been my busy schedule, or maybe my > blood floated, but was at minimal iron levels. Dunno. You mean sank, I bet. If it sinks, you're allowed to give. If it floats, you aren't. One time mine floated but was acting almost like sinking, so they put it into a machine that spit out some numbers and said I was just above the borderline. Or maybe I was just below the borderline and was turned away. I can't remember for sure -- just remember that a machine was involved. I still don't feel totally normal. I hope I do by tomorrow since there are many things I need to do tomorrow with , like try to figure out where to get small, cheap poinsettias to use as table decorations for the ARF banquet, go visit the person in Tupelo, etc. etc. Then again, there could be worse times to be draggy. I have no classes to teach, and Thursday will be a quiet day. And all I'm committed to so far for Friday is being a Salvation Army bell-ringer in front of Wmart from 10-11 and 1-2. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 20:22:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQ2MeTx028118 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:22:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5B38F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:22:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 701157 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:22:49 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQ2MnY26328 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:22:49 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <20031126022244012002954he> (Authid: adamh1); Wed, 26 Nov 2003 02:22:44 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Hot Tamales and Blood Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:22:42 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031125194438.00b4a878@pop.gwi.net> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Since many of you enjoy food threads and medical threads, you may enjoy > >the story of my adventure today. And do any of you know if/why it's not > >good to eat hot tamales immediately before giving blood? The sweating and the queasiness indicate to me that your blood sugar went too low. The cornmeal in the tamales wasn't a fast-enough acting carb to give your body energy, and losing the blood provoked a hypo. That's why they gave you OJ. IMHO, YMMV, etc. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 20:26:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQ2QETx028161 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:26:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F90DF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:26:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 701274 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:26:23 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQ2QMY26540 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:26:22 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.48]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031126022617.JDSX1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:26:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC40F4A.74CADECB@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:26:18 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield wrote: > The sweating and the queasiness indicate to me that your blood sugar went > too low. The cornmeal in the tamales wasn't a fast-enough acting carb to > give your body energy, and losing the blood provoked a hypo. That's why they > gave you OJ. > > IMHO, YMMV, etc. Thanks. What's a hypo? They always have orange juice sitting around as part of their eat/drink-something-when-you-leave thing -- something I've never partaken of. I just leave. Re fast-acting carbs, I had also eaten a hershey bar, iirc. I ate the tamales followed by a quick hershey bar. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 20:30:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQ2UQTx028238 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:30:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5B3AE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:30:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 701409 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:30:35 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQ2UZY26829 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:30:35 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003112602303001600r683ke> (Authid: adamh1); Wed, 26 Nov 2003 02:30:30 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Hot Tamales and Blood Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:30:28 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <3FC40F4A.74CADECB@maynor.net> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Thanks. What's a hypo? A hypo is a hypoglycemic incident. It's when your blood sugar drops too low. > They always have orange juice sitting around as > part of their eat/drink-something-when-you-leave thing -- something I've > never partaken of. I just leave. Right...they have OJ...and cookies. All things which raise the blood sugar quickly. > Re fast-acting carbs, I had also eaten a hershey bar, iirc. I ate the > tamales followed by a quick hershey bar. Hershey bars aren't fast-acting carbs because all the fat in them slows down the sugar digestion. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 20:34:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQ2YSTx028333 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:34:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F90C5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:34:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 701487 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:34:37 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQ2YbY27204 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:34:37 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.48]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031126023431.JGYG1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:34:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC41138.1D34A2A2@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:34:32 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield wrote: > > > Thanks. What's a hypo? > > A hypo is a hypoglycemic incident. It's when your blood sugar drops too low. Eek. That sounds so or something. I don't like the thought of my blood doing weird things. Next time I will not eat hot tamales before going and will make sure I get to see the dropping of my blood into the little glass. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 20:36:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQ2aJTx028352 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:36:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5B3C0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:36:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 701539 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:36:28 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQ2aRY27306 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:36:27 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-40.gwi.net [216.195.157.40]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAQ2aPGn074809 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:36:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031125213124.00b486c8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:36:24 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood In-Reply-To: <3FC40DDB.6F9EC3E@maynor.net> References: <3FC3DB95.E7CDA6A@maynor.net> <3FC3F7DF.C17FDA38@maynor.net> <3FC3FA87.9070303@swbell.net> <3FC4082B.C68E8502@maynor.net> <3FC4088F.10109@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >One time mine floated but was acting almost like >sinking, so they put it into a machine that spit out some numbers and >said I was just above the borderline. --Natalie A centrifuge. They put the blood in a centrifuge to get the exact iron content of it. The sink or float thing is a rougher test of whether or not you are anemic. If you are anemic, they don't want your blood and you need to hang on to what blood you have. I doubt the woman was deliberately hiding the test from you and allowing you to donate blood, sink or float. I certainly hope she wasn't doing that. I think the best hypothesis about why you felt bad immediately was, as Clyde said, that blood was being diverted to digestion and there was not enough to go around. As to why you still feel bad, I don't know. But if I were you, I would very definitely drink some extra liquids tonight. You want to be awake and aware and alive to watch Survivor tomorrow night. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 20:49:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQ2ntTx028535 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:49:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5B3DE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:50:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 701779 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:50:04 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQ2o3Y28459 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:50:03 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003112602495801100p24l0e> (Authid: adamh1); Wed, 26 Nov 2003 02:49:58 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Hot Tamales and Blood Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:49:56 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <3FC41138.1D34A2A2@maynor.net> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > my blood doing weird things. Next time I will not eat hot tamales > before going and will make sure I get to see the dropping of my blood > into the little glass. Just eat them an hour before going, not 10 minutes. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 21:02:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQ32KTx028801 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:02:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5B3F5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:02:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 701812 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:02:28 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQ2qRY28578 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:52:27 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAQ2pRwb003320 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:51:27 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:52:27 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: SSA In-Reply-To: <3FC40681.FB083D3E@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FC40681.FB083D3E@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 25 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >It took me a while to figure out what you were talking about. I was >thinking of SCA since we had just been talking about it. Also, I've >never heard anybody else say getting "SSA." What does the A stand for? >I thought SSA was Social Security Administration and that what one got >was SS, not SSA. And I have never heard people say SS. Okay - I get checks from THE SSA. >And why do you say I will get at least one? Because I think COLA will continue for a while. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 21:04:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQ34YTx028849 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:04:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5B403@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:04:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 702089 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:04:42 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQ34gY29401 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:04:42 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.48]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031126030437.JSGW1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:04:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC41843.9DEE27EB@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:04:35 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood References: <3FC3DB95.E7CDA6A@maynor.net> <3FC3F7DF.C17FDA38@maynor.net> <3FC3FA87.9070303@swbell.net> <3FC4082B.C68E8502@maynor.net> <3FC4088F.10109@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031125213124.00b486c8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > want to be awake and aware and alive to watch Survivor tomorrow night. THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME!! Surely I wouldn't have forgotten. But the days seem abnormal this week, and, of course, Survivor time is abnormal this week, so who knows. I'm going to put a reminder on the refrigerator. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 21:06:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQ36ITx028862 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:06:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5B3ED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:06:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 702127 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:06:26 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQ36QY29498 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:06:26 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.48]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031126030620.JSYI1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:06:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC418AD.CD17D168@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:06:21 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield wrote: > Just eat them an hour before going, not 10 minutes. I don't really eat hot tamales very often. I was wandering by the counter in Wmart where they were sitting and decided on a whim to buy them and eat them for lunch. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 21:13:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQ3DYTx029022 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:13:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5B42B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:13:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 702553 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:13:42 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAQ3DgY30137 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:13:42 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:31:28 PST Message-ID: <20031126023128.46654.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:31:28 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Friends in High Places To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FC3E97C.2FAD4A1E@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Natalie, this is an unexpected problem. We hope > our temporary fix of > > having a fan blow on the window will solve the > problem until we get back > > from Thanksgiving. I am anxious to check tomorrow > morning. > Is he aware that the major subject of surveillance here is TWD? This could be a tricky situation, not knowing who belongs to which gang. Did you lead him to believe that your interest was a purely technical one, you didn't want to see the frost on the bumpkin, so to speak? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 21:20:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQ3KpTx029196 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:20:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5B445@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:20:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 702788 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:20:59 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQ3KxY30765 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:20:59 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.48]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031126032054.OFXN1903.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:20:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC41C16.A70EA081@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:20:54 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Friends in High Places References: <20031126023128.46654.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Is he aware that the major subject of surveillance > here is TWD? This could be a tricky situation, not > knowing who belongs to which gang. Did you lead him > to believe that your interest was a purely technical > one, you didn't want to see the frost on the bumpkin, > so to speak? No, I told him that it was very much about TWD. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 21:24:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQ3OBTx029264 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:24:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5B43B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:24:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 702874 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:24:20 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQ3OKY30984 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:24:20 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.140.48]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031126032410.OGVU1903.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:24:10 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC41CDB.1A059D05@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:24:11 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Re: SSA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >And why do you say I will get at least one? > > Because I think COLA will continue for a while. Why single me out? Many of us are around the same age. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 21:34:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQ3YpTx029397 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:34:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F9276@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:34:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 703174 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:34:59 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAQ3YxY31819 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:34:59 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:35:02 PST Message-ID: <20031126023502.41668.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:35:02 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Webcam To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3c.383cea67.2cf54f69@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > I hope someone finds TWD and adopts him. It's more a case of whether or not he wants to stay adopted, of course. If he stayed with another family, the ruse on which the raising of funds for the Animal Shelter is built, will crumble. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 21:51:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQ3pHTx029716 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:51:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5B4BA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:51:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 704022 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:51:25 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAQ3pPY01172 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:51:25 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:48:30 PST Message-ID: <20031126024830.77803.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:48:30 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FC407B9.E5BB551F@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > > I thought that was what the sink-or-swim drop of > blood was supposed to > ascertain. I'm not sure that I've been eating > decent meals. And I am > again wondering why this person hid the vial behind > the computer before > dropping my blood into it. For some unknown reason, the Animal Shelter and the mysterious cat man want fraudulently obtained DNA samples from you. Do not drop your guard. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 22:17:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQ4HZTx030209 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:17:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5B4E1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:53:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 704221 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:53:37 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAQ3raY01434 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:53:36 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:44:23 PST Message-ID: <20031126024423.10200.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:44:23 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Survivor stuff To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77828@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Phil Paxton wrote: > > Would he really be welcome on the All-Star Show? > > Didn't he kind of vote himself "off"? In view of > > that, he hardly qualifies as a survivor(?). > > Who says he has to wear a white hat or be a "joiner" > to be in the All-Star > show? I don't recall saying he had to be either. But if you're going to make an All-Star appearance on a show called "Survivor", logic dictates that you should BE a survivor - at least in my mind. Doesn't matter if he quit, got voted off, got kicked off, resigned, or died - he did not survive the premise of the show. > I would think the All-Star show would be composed of > those who are most > likely to create an interesting chemistry. We've > seen what they looked like > in edited format and the producers know what they > look like for real during > the game. Richard Hatch was the first winner. Is > that in and of itself a > reason to be on the All-Star show? I think not. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 22:17:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQ4HZTx030210 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:17:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5B736@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 23:11:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 708640 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 23:11:43 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQ4BhY04530 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 23:11:43 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAQ4Avsb001924 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:11:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:12:40 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <35141048.20031125221240@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hot Tamales and Blood In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031125213124.00b486c8@pop.gwi.net> References: <3FC3DB95.E7CDA6A@maynor.net> <3FC3F7DF.C17FDA38@maynor.net> <3FC3FA87.9070303@swbell.net> <3FC4082B.C68E8502@maynor.net> <3FC4088F.10109@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031125213124.00b486c8@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I misunderstood from the beginning--I thought Natalie was talking about the candy, Hot Tamales. I've never heard anyone who eats them call them hot tamales, just tamales. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 22:17:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQ4HZTx030211 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:17:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5B724@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 23:13:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 708724 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 23:13:15 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQ4DEY04697 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 23:13:14 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAQ4DBiM029810 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:13:12 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:14:27 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <695444993.20031125221427@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: SSA In-Reply-To: References: <3FC40681.FB083D3E@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, November 25, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > And I have never heard people say SS. Most people say Sossecurity. I've never heard anyone say SS or SSA. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 22:20:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQ4KLTx030298 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:20:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F9310@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:59:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 704720 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:59:33 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAQ3xXY02038 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:59:33 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:50:09 PST Message-ID: <20031126025009.11835.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:50:09 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FC40886.6A324FF6@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > I'm glad I thought to call up God before my birth > and ask to have Very > Special Blood. Wish I'd added that naturally curly > hair would be nice > also. Life is so bizarre. You are more than welcome to my loathed curly hair. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree